PMS 2.0 1349 - Eastern Conference Finals Game 4 Recap, JJ Watt LIVE In Studio, Quentin Richardson, Peter Schrager, Cornell Lacrosse National Champion CJ Kirst, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Speaker 1 Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this Superstar Wednesday, May 28th, 2025, this program begins now.

Speaker 1 Sports are happening all around us, and let's just get right to it.

Speaker 1 You saw the massive creature that is sitting on the stage that refused to say anything once the beat dropped, which is a-okay, because I've heard he's a great teammate. We shall see today.

Speaker 1 The toxic tables here at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt, what a treat it is today to have what a legend with us here on the Thunderdome stage.

Speaker 2 Unbelievable treat. I mean, you're talking about turning just a dreary Wednesday into arguably maybe the greatest collective day of our lives.

Speaker 1 Superstar Wednesday, of course. Yeah.
Nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is sitting where normally one half of the hammer down Cowboys AP Tone seats sits.

Speaker 1 And that's because we got a surprise guest that flew in here to Indianapolis, Indiana. Just shocked.

Speaker 3 As soon as the door flew open, we just felt this presence. It wouldn't be a Superstar Wednesday without the Superstar Superstar.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're right. The Superstar of all Superstars.

Speaker 1 Your favorite favorite superstar is favorite superstar. That's right.
Ladies and gentlemen, joining us, I don't know all the accolades, okay?

Speaker 1 We did not write them down. No, no, we did not.
He's been defense player year before. He's MVP before.

Speaker 1 The guy obviously is a hero. He saved the city legitimately.

Speaker 1 Raised over $40 million for the city of Houston and didn't do it because, you know, he wanted to glitz and the glamour.

Speaker 1 Did it because he felt obligated to do as such, because he was the representative of the city of Houston for so damn long.

Speaker 1 As he was the first-round round draft pick for the Houston Texans, they actually boot his ass out of town. That's crazy.
He gets drafted in the first round of the Houston Texans.

Speaker 1 They say, who is this Hwat from Wisconsin? Get this guy the hell off our team. What would he end up doing? Well, he'd become the greatest player in a franchise's history.

Speaker 1 Become a man that was not only phenomenal at tackling quarterbacks. Oh, man.
He was so good at it.

Speaker 4 120 plus.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 1 So many of those. Future First Ballot Hall of Famer because of what he did on the defensive side.
But it's like it twisted on the offensive side, too. He's got a touchdown.
Exactly.

Speaker 1 And then on special teams, because he's so abnormally large,

Speaker 1 he was given maximum effort, which abnormal amount of effort given at all times. Ladies and gentlemen, maybe the superhero of the superstars, J.J.
Watt is here. Yay!

Speaker 1 Thank you. I'm great.
It's great to be here. This place is unbelievable.
This is... Yeah, that's your first trip, huh? This is really cool.
Yeah, this place is awesome. First, no.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's his first trip. He's been doing the show, what, four or five years now? Yeah.
Yeah, I know what it is, four or five years. First trip out here.
He's also in the Midwest.

Speaker 1 Everyone's in Wisconsin. He's literally...
Stone's throw. Yeah, I think you could actually skip.
Yeah, I think you could skip a rock to it. So the fact that you came today was a surprise.

Speaker 1 I want to let you know, positive. We are very happy you're here.
Aren't we? That's right.

Speaker 1 I feel it. I can feel it.
I appreciate it. Yeah, no, I sense it.
I can tell. It's just such a, you guys are so jacked.
It's so exciting. We are.

Speaker 1 When you walked in here, we were super excited about it.

Speaker 4 The only one not Jack's Tone Diggs because he can't share the stage with one of his favorite players of all all time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, ladies and gentlemen, let's head over to Hammer. Don! Don! See, JJ, Jesus.
I'll get there.

Speaker 1 AP Tunner in there. Love you, Jake.
Love you.

Speaker 1 Ton, we had no idea this guy was coming. No.
Just a nice little fresh surprise that J.J. Watt makes an appearance.

Speaker 1 And obviously, it's a perfect time to have him because there's a lot of NFL news happening.

Speaker 1 And whenever we start talking about the Pittsburgh Steelers and their situation, AP Tun, we will certainly bring you in. Now, Jake, let's chit-chat about last night.

Speaker 1 Did you see what the Indiana Pacers did to the New York Knicks right here in Indianapolis, Indiana game four of the Eastern Conference finals now the Pacers are up three to one

Speaker 1 and I'll tell you being in there having a chance to sit second row but also courtside at the same time right alongside the Pacers bench

Speaker 1 comes promos right

Speaker 1 yeah well Jage you always like to bring up a little bit of heat just promo yeah it was one promo did not know I was getting a microphone Did not know I was getting a microphone.

Speaker 1 Would like that to be known because

Speaker 1 there was money paid for the seats that we were sitting in, a lot of them, a lot of it, yours,

Speaker 1 not my money, was gonna be my money, and then it was uh, somebody else said we could do that, and I said, Yeah, actually, sure, how much

Speaker 1 with how much it is, you could certainly do that. So, I thought there was a chance, like, hey, just come enjoy the game, do the thing.
So, I'm watching them do the shots around the arena of people.

Speaker 1 It's like, damn, there's a lot of people here, a lot of ex-pacers here. Great to see Danny Granger was back in the building, Jermaine O'Neal was back in the building, obviously, Mike.

Speaker 1 One of the best jerseys of all time. If If you owned a Jermaine O'Neill jersey back in the day, that is

Speaker 1 true. Jermaine O'Neill was beloved in this.
I mean, obviously, big pop for him. There was a lot of superstars out.
Everybody was seemingly there last. Jellyroll was there last night.

Speaker 1 I mean, Triple H, I was obviously alongside. 50 Cent was in the building.
So they're showing all these people. And I'm like, okay, cool.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're not expecting me, you know, to do anything, you know, because that is like that is a moment in there. You've had to experience it, obviously, numerous times.

Speaker 1 Debut, I think, probably has experienced it at a Florida Panthers game, which we will get to. They're about to go and win this entire thing again.
But yeah, I was like, cool. I don't have to do it.

Speaker 1 Then fourth quarter comes, guy with camera comes and he goes, hey, can we put you on the thing? What am I going to say?

Speaker 1 No. You didn't say no there.
I don't think so. I say, sounds good, man.
Sounds good. Cool guy, too.
Good, good vibes, good energy. He's carrying around a camera all night.
You do his thing.

Speaker 1 So then the MC in there, who I do know, comes over with the microphone and ears thing. And he's standing next to me.
And I go, are you interviewing me? He goes, no, I'm giving you the microphone.

Speaker 1 I'm like, oh, I'm cutting a promo here. Okay.
So now we got about 30, 45 seconds. So I start started looking around.
I see Spike Lee down there, literally covered up in like a babushka.

Speaker 1 I don't know what he had like a thing over there. I look down at him and I look over to right and it was so cool to see Timothy Chalamet.
First of all, the way Timothy Chalamet has become like

Speaker 1 as a chat, they have shit from him as a kid with trying to meet Amari Starnemeyer and everything as a Knicks fan.

Speaker 1 Now becoming the face and also becoming like the guy whenever it comes to being a thespian and being an actor and how he wants to do it and what he did at College Game Day. Seeing him was sweet.

Speaker 1 Like very very cool. Ben Stiller, I grew up watching Ben Stiller.

Speaker 1 He's out there for the, I mean, it was just a cool moment, but it was very clear what I needed to do, you know, what the assignment was as soon as I saw him. Because these guys are all front row.

Speaker 1 I mean, they're a part of the show. They're getting things said to them.
They're getting things said back. So yeah, 30, 45 seconds, decided to come up with something.

Speaker 1 You know, let's send these guys out here. How we were going to get there, didn't know.
Sons of bitches was certainly not something that was on the mind until I was in the middle of it.

Speaker 1 It's like, hmm, I feel like we're going to bring a little bit of a hammer here. But would like to let them all know, mad respect for coming out.

Speaker 1 Mad respect for the amount of sport they're showing the New York Knicks, and also all love.

Speaker 1 Timothy Chalamay knew, uh, certainly because he's been inches away at the college game day thing, whenever I saw NNI.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he, he, as I had the mic, I look over and he's got a shit-eating grin on his face. I'm like, well, I think he knows what's about to happen here.

Speaker 1 I don't think Ben Stiller knows, and Ben Stiller did not love it from

Speaker 1 what I read from Ben Stiller's editor.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 shut up.

Speaker 1 He said it would not happen, it wouldn't not happen in New York. York.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay. It wouldn't happen in Madison Square Garden.
And he said it was weird. You know, some people were calling me classless in this entire thing.
It's like, hey, it was in, this wasn't on TV. Okay.

Speaker 1 This was, the assignment was, hey, we blew the game in the fourth quarter in game three. Okay.
I knew that. We got a lead right now going in.
Let's make sure we turn this shit up a little bit.

Speaker 1 Let's turn this shit up. I get Carlisle going to.
He no sells it. No look at all.

Speaker 1 But then, yeah, I didn't even think about there being a negative reaction, which once again is how I find myself sometimes in a situation where it's like oh that was sweet this whole place just want bananas boys on the bench just went crazy sat down next to my wife she was like hey that was a lot of fun nick con goes okay and then triple h goes unbelievable you're the best

Speaker 1 that was whatever i'm like thank you thank you it was really cool and then obviously you know it goes how it goes and that's how the world is but i just want to let everybody know hey the assignment was to turn that some bitch upside down and that's all it was i do apologize that some of them said uh some of the aggregators cut it off before I said let's send them home with their ears ringing you know they just said let's send these sons of bitches back to New York like I was kicking them out of town

Speaker 1 well it was a little bit harder than what I was delivering works today for sure what I was delivering was the ears ringing has anybody been

Speaker 1 loud is what I was saying send these sons of bitches back to New York with their ears ringing

Speaker 1 that's literally what I was saying so it's like I think I aggregate a little different where I'm saying send these sons of bitches out of our fucking shedding You know, I was not saying that.

Speaker 1 Has anybody been handed the mic in the fourth quarter of a playoff game before?

Speaker 5 Like a fan?

Speaker 1 That's unbelievable. Oh, thank you.

Speaker 1 I didn't think about that. And people.
Like, I don't know if I've ever seen that, like a legit major game, fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 They're like, yeah, like it's not. It's like, here, we're going to hand a mic to this guy and we have no clue what he's going to say.
Yeah, and he does not know he's getting a microphone.

Speaker 1 Unless somebody else was told that I was getting a mic and just didn't relay the message out. And you legitimately had to hype up those guys so much.
Like it had to be just so on that note.

Speaker 1 On that note, James Johnson, who needs to be talked about more. Dog.
Dog.

Speaker 1 Absolute weapon. Does his job perfectly.
Even when he's not in the game, he does his job perfectly. He comes over, gives me a boom, boom, love that.
Walks away. I'm like, got that guy on my side.

Speaker 1 That's good news. And that's all you need.
That's literally all it needs. Turns out.
Do you know who James Johnson is? Yeah. Okay.
So he is the enforcer for the Pacers.

Speaker 1 I believe is how, I don't know if that's how everybody views him, but that's how I was kind of introduced to who he is.

Speaker 1 Hey, this guy's been brought in here basically to make sure Tyrees and the boys, you know, we got a guy in here.

Speaker 1 Can Hoop has played multiple times during the playoffs, but he is a black belt, I think, in Judah. I don't know.

Speaker 1 He's a dog. And he's also six foot 10, whatever the case is.
He's huge.

Speaker 1 Sweet look.

Speaker 1 Sweet tats, sweet dreads. Everything is, he's sweet looking.
Grill. Yeah, he's got an awesome grill.
So his job is to protect the boys, I think.

Speaker 1 I thought that was just physically, but in the NBA, because of how close everybody sits on top of you, just like in the NFL, I assume you've had fans yell at you a lot about J.J.

Speaker 1 Watt, you suck, whatever it is. There was a guy, three Knicks fans, front row right here.

Speaker 1 They bought those tickets behind the pacers' bench to do exactly what they were doing at the beginning of the game. They were.
Yelling at Tyrese. I mean, they were giving it to Tyrese.

Speaker 1 This is over Triple H's head because Triple H is sitting right next to Tyrese. So this is happening over his head, basically.

Speaker 1 And that James Johnson guy, as at a timeout, this guy's getting after Tyrese. He just looks at him, calls him a very strong word, I will say.
Very, very strong word to the Knicks guy.

Speaker 1 Now the Knicks guy's attention is completely off of Tyrese. And now it's talking to James.
And James delivered a verbal assault of this man that was a first-round knockout.

Speaker 1 Stronger than sons of bitches.

Speaker 1 Yeah, much stronger.

Speaker 1 Much, much, much stronger than that. But old buddy, instead of yelling at Tyrese the the rest of the game, is yelling at James Tyrese.
And I'm like, this guy literally just did his job better.

Speaker 1 Jumped on the grenade. Bingo, yeah.
Because like Tyrese doesn't have to hear it. Now, granted, Tyrese probably locked in.
He was locked in, too. It was very cool to watch Tyrese be that locked in.

Speaker 1 Also, yelling on bench. Like that type of thing.
It was cool to watch Tyrese like kind of, because we were on their bench, basically. It was cool to watch Tyrese work.

Speaker 1 But Tyrese didn't have to deal with these guys. Great shit talkers.
These guys were, these guys were very adamant, good shit talkers. Instead, their attention goes right to James.

Speaker 1 It was a wonderful night. Wonderful night.
I mean, Tyrese, Wisconsin guy. I mean, come on, let's give him this credit.
Oh, yeah. Oshkosh, born and bred,

Speaker 1 did end up going to Iowa State. Would have loved him to stay a Badger.
Well, did you guys offer him?

Speaker 2 No, they didn't. I've asked him the same thing.

Speaker 1 I know. I mean, we've.

Speaker 1 I know. The Badgers didn't think Tyrese Halliburton could play basketball for them?

Speaker 2 Crazy.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 I'd like to go back and redo that.

Speaker 1 They didn't offer you coming out of high school,

Speaker 1 they did not offer me. I was too small.
Is there a Wisconsin problem? Yeah, the Wisconsin people have problems with Wisconsin people? No, no, not at all.

Speaker 6 What's up with your state?

Speaker 1 Not at all.

Speaker 1 Okay, West Virginia, let's calm it down. Rich Rodriguez is back, bro.
Let's calm it down. Everybody's got to be awesome.

Speaker 1 Rich Rod's back, brother. I see your Iowa flags on the floor.
I see you kind of understand what's happening over there. No, that's not wrestling.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I see what's happening.

Speaker 2 JJ, how did the Iowa, Wisconsin game go this way?

Speaker 1 Not good. Not good.
Not good, man. I'll tell you what, that one is the one that one hurts because that's like a direct one-to-one comparison.

Speaker 1 And to get the shit kicked out of us there hurt um it's coming back around okay you're a wiscon guy you know tyree since high school i assume long time i don't i didn't know him personally you know of him you're a fan of his obviously coming out of wisconsin state champ yeah because you had that log cabin remember you had in wisconsin throughout the years yeah just had a little log cabin he built his yeah he's got a small studio here yeah no i've never said

Speaker 1 i've never said thunderdome isn't i said it was a log cabin it was a log cabin that's true

Speaker 1 i think it was a four season thing was look out out of logs. Yeah, they put logs on the outside of a four seasons.
I mean, when I saw the gimmick, it was a great gimmick. I saw his house.

Speaker 1 It wasn't a gimmick. I said I had a log cabin.
I lived in a cabin made out of logs. Yeah.
It was a little bit large, but it was still made out of logs. I didn't know there was a size limit on cabins.

Speaker 1 I think it's the LED lights around the TV in the log cabin. You know, just my thoughts of what a log cabin is? You know, you don't have the Jordan shoe rack.
The wood-burning stove.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you don't have a pizza man. I had a wood-burning stove.
I had a wood burning stove.

Speaker 1 Nonetheless, beautiful home over there. Yeah.
Okay. And you followed Wisconsin.
So you knew Tyree since he was a high schooler.

Speaker 1 I have not known him long enough, but I do know that he's potentially a superstar. Well, I mean,

Speaker 1 probably take the potential off. Well, there's debate.
Not everybody's

Speaker 1 debate.

Speaker 1 It's the small market shit. Yeah, agreed.
That legitimately is what it is, isn't it? No doubt. So they pulled up the definition earlier.
We thought that was a good play.

Speaker 1 We figured we'd do the same thing. Let's hear what Merriam-Webster has to say.

Speaker 1 And that's the authority. Yeah.
Merriam, for a long time, has been saying this is what a word is. This is what a word isn't.
Whatever you say to it.

Speaker 1 I've actually had somebody tell me that Merriam-Webster a little lazy on a definition of a word before. One of the greatest lines I've ever heard from somebody.
That's a lazy definition.

Speaker 1 I'm saying you're calling Merriam-Webster lazy. Kind of mailed it in, but that's the authority that Merriam-Webster has.
So let's read the definition for a superstar, shall we, JJ?

Speaker 6 What? Let's do it.

Speaker 1 One, okay, this is the first one. Sure.
This first definition of a superstar. A star, parentheses, as in sports or the movies, TC, Tom Cruise.
Right, right. Socks at Bush.
Biggest,

Speaker 1 and parentheses, who is considered extremely talented. Is Tyrese considered extremely talented? Let's go last night, does something nobody in the history has ever done before.

Speaker 1 Got to a point where Tyrese actually said during his post-game press conference, he said, I feel like we're making up stats now to make me look good.

Speaker 1 But yeah, whenever you have a triple double with 30 plus points and no turnovers, people are going to say, wait a minute, this guy's doing something we've never seen before.

Speaker 1 He's on very short lists of very great players to do all the things that he's doing basically every single night. Biggest game of the year, Eastern Conference finals.

Speaker 1 Everybody on earth knows that whoever wins this game is probably going to end up winning the series.

Speaker 1 If the New York Knicks come into Indiana and steal two after winning two in the garden it's over it's going to be a new york knicks series the knicks are going to the finals in the biggest game with triple h there yeah with his pops back in the building bingo

Speaker 1 with fifth exactly boy jelly roll yeah timothy chalamate Ben Silatrav, he has his biggest night, triple double. So I'd say he's extremely talented.
Let's go back to that definition. Post-comma.

Speaker 1 Stop me if I'm wrong on any of this, JJ.

Speaker 1 You got a big ring. Has great public appeal.
Well, i guess in new york probably not right yeah

Speaker 1 or milwaukee yeah but is there anywhere other than those cities like do places exist other than those cities la

Speaker 1 couple los angeles i guess that is a place that exists boston how about miami Does our city exist or it does?

Speaker 2 Indianapolis would be included.

Speaker 1 Sometimes people tend to forget. So let's go to public appeal.

Speaker 1 Is this guy liked? Oh, let's go to one of his game winners from this playoff run, series winner. Yeah, I'd say he has some public appeal.
around Pan.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but Indianapolis isn't anywhere near as big as other cities are. Okay, so it's not a public place anymore.
It's not a public forum. He has public appeal.

Speaker 1 That's James Johnson hugging him, saying, I got you, dog. If anybody talks in the front row, I'm going to say terrible things to them.
And they're going to get mad at me.

Speaker 1 Instead of being mad at you, I'll keep them distracted. So he has public appeal, right, JJ? That'd be the second part of that.
I agree. Now let's go to the third one there.

Speaker 1 And can usually command a high salary. That's a funny one.
That's a funny one to be included in this. Yeah, that's a superstar.
It's impossible. It's true.

Speaker 3 It's kind of the Trey Hendrickson conversation right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, which we will certainly get into. Average star, not really paid.
Sure. Superstar going to command a high salary.
Is Tyrese getting paid?

Speaker 2 I believe he's a max player, yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, he's a max player. So we're just checking all the boxes of what Merriam-Webster says is a superstar, I would say.
Yep.

Speaker 1 So we just want to let Tyrese know that our tiny little program here in this tiny little city that

Speaker 1 does not have racist WNBA fans?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Confirms.
That's what WNBA fans confirm. That's what they said.
Wow. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 That maybe would be good if it makes it to the finals, as opposed to everybody saying it'd be terrible if this team makes it to the NBA finals on television. Okay.

Speaker 1 You don't think you're creating a potential

Speaker 1 we want war with you type

Speaker 1 narrative? If your team wins, it's terrible for the entire league. Your fans are racist.
Your guy is not a superstar.

Speaker 1 Your player is is overrated it's like okay okay okay okay okay okay we're hearing a lot but just know that tyrese halliburton pasco siakam nemhart nee smith tj mcconnell and the boys have this city rally and this city ready last night was a great indicator of it and tyrese you're our superstar we're appreciative of you tyrese we're appreciative

Speaker 1 i mean new york they're naming streets after every single player on the roster in new york city i mean that's that's a very large city but they haven't won what do you do here whoa whoa whoa in a long time this team has

Speaker 1 I will say, watching Jalen Brunson live is outrageous. Very good.
He's able to score whenever he wants.

Speaker 1 And it's like, if he even gets an open look, it's like back when Steph Curry was doing his thing. If he just gets an open look, it's like, oh, that's going to fall.

Speaker 1 Like, it's not like he might miss this one, especially when he has that little mid-range shit he does. Unbelievable.
Three, if he has any room, it's going to fall. He is

Speaker 1 great to watch in person. Very legit.
Very. Carl Anthony Towns, I think he's getting a little tired.
He had that 20-point fourth quarter in game three. He obviously had some big plays last night.

Speaker 1 Watching the amount of running, I'm like,

Speaker 1 how is he? You're a big man. Big, big man.
Big big man. Big, huge.

Speaker 1 I don't know how you keep up with it, to be honest. No, I like six, second plays.
I'm a big six-seconds guy. Oh, he's not retired yet.
Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who is retired.

Speaker 1 Played in the NBA for 13 years? Yeah, he's been around. Been there, done that.
Has a great shot. Says he doesn't run much anymore.
Mad respect.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, friend of the program, co-host of the Knuckleheads podcast, Quentin Richardson. Yeah,

Speaker 1 Jude, we just had to break down the definition of superstar there just to see what Merriam-Webster's thoughts were.

Speaker 1 And obviously, we're riding high with the Pacers getting a big win over the New York Knicks last night. What are your thoughts on the entire conversation? This Pacers team is a real deal, Q.

Speaker 1 This Pacers team is a real deal. Watching them live last night, that's a lot of running.
I don't know how, I guess OKC does the same thing, but it's a lot of running fast.

Speaker 1 And as soon as the other teams score, as soon as the Knicks score, their entire bench is like, ah, ah, ah. It's like a,

Speaker 1 it's high tempo all the time. A lot of teams do this.
Is this a new thing? And what are your thoughts on this Pacers team, Q?

Speaker 9 Man, I like what the Pacers are doing, man. They're doing what they're supposed to do, man.
They seizing the moment, and now they got a chance to go to the NBA Finals.

Speaker 9 As far as the superstar conversation, man, I think if you ask Tyrese himself, we get like, as far as us in the media, we getting too big on labels.

Speaker 9 It doesn't really matter.

Speaker 9 when you look at it you said it tyrese getting a max contract he's balling he's making he he's he's he's been on the all-star team he was been on the olympic team i think the real thing you only desire from a from a player standpoint like you said you got the money don't lie we all want the money that's one of the top first things you want the money he got the max money and then you want the respect from your peers like when you get done like the whole overrated thing that was a joke that's a joke whatever but i mean you at the end of the day when you get through playing i think all athletes want to have the respect of their peers.

Speaker 9 Because, I mean, the media, that's going to come and go because some people may like you, may not like you.

Speaker 9 But I'm talking about when you get down in the trenches and they got to go and hoop against you, I know he has to have the respect of everybody to play against him. Because look what he's doing.

Speaker 9 Like you said, a 30-point triple-double, but with zero turnovers and the high usage he has, how much he has the ball in his hand. It's not like he's out here playing it safe.

Speaker 9 He's doing all type of stuff, no looks. and everything else.
So what he's doing is incredible. And I think when he gets done,

Speaker 9 his body of work will speak for itself.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I appreciate you saying that. And I agree.
And Tyrese, I think he hears the noise because he's young. So obviously he has social media.

Speaker 1 He bans himself from social media during the series, though. I think that's a good play.

Speaker 1 I think that's a good play.

Speaker 1 His dad will keep an eye on things.

Speaker 1 His family will keep an eye on things. But like, the way he handles himself, the way he has represented this city has been a beautiful thing.
He's, what, 24?

Speaker 4 Yeah, 24, 25, or six.

Speaker 1 Whatever he is. He's still young.

Speaker 1 He's very, very young. And I think we're all incredibly pumped for what the future possibilities are here in Indiana.
OKC, Indiana. I don't want to look ahead.

Speaker 1 Obviously, we still have to win the series against the New York Knicks. Winning in Madison Square Garden would be bananas.
Okay, that would be spectacular if that was to take place.

Speaker 1 If they win another one, hey, that's okay. We'll come back here to Indiana and do our thing, hopefully.
And I have nothing but respect for that Knicks team.

Speaker 1 The way they've been able to battle and play is insane. And Carl Anthony, he's so big.

Speaker 1 Carl Anthony Towns is so big, Hugh Rich. He is, I don't think I expected how

Speaker 1 like he's round. Yeah.
Yeah. He is a, he, and he's, they're running him.
A lot of hand gestures going on there.

Speaker 1 A lot of hand gestures going on there. Yeah, well, that's what I'm saying.
He's driving the big guy.

Speaker 1 I don't want to call him fat because I don't think he's fat. I think it's, but he is well built.
He is like a round guy. Stocky.
Stocky. That's good.
He's like a a stocky gentleman.

Speaker 1 So I'm very interested in his girth that's going on. It's just a lot of.

Speaker 1 Those are your words, JJ, you pig.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Say I'm Adam.
See it. Cheers.
We ain't have to ask you to play, JJ.

Speaker 10 We ain't got the action played.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but he's probably well hung.

Speaker 1 I mean, come on. Yeah, I think he's good at hoop.

Speaker 1 We talk about who, bro.

Speaker 1 Yeah, whatever he is. From the rim.
Yeah, he's very good. But what I'm saying is, watching these guys live and seeing them in person, you always forget.
Like watching on TV, you too, I assume.

Speaker 1 How tall are you?

Speaker 9 6'6.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 That's just like standard. So whenever you see how big Carl Anthony Towns was and how much he was running, I'm like, how does anybody keep up with this Pacers team for seven games?

Speaker 1 It's like Pasco Siakam. Obviously, he's gigantic.
He can run all day.

Speaker 1 I think he can literally run all day. Does OKC play that same style? And how long has this been happening? How long has this been a style that teams play with?

Speaker 9 Man, I think since since Golden State was able to show that they could win a championship, you know what I'm saying, with this with the small ball lineup, that was, you know, pretty much everybody tried to copy and paste.

Speaker 9 So now you see a lot of fours, like one through four, you got smaller guys, and then you got one big guy out there.

Speaker 9 It's a lot of four out, one in, or just flat out five out with pick and roll being played. And these guys, I mean, like you say, you're talking about Cat.

Speaker 9 He's used to this, man, in Minnesota his whole career when he was younger. He's a guy who's always gotten up and down the court well and played on the outside and played inside.
So, I mean,

Speaker 9 he's equipped for this.

Speaker 9 And I mean, most of these guys, you look at like, if you look at a guy like Rudy Golbert, who's really like 7'4, whatever he is, the Wimby's that 7'4, 7'5, like the league is a strange place, man, because you say, like, I'm 6'6, and I go out there and I do not look big on the court.

Speaker 9 I look average and regular size. And then it's a difference when you walk into the real world.

Speaker 9 But when you're in the gym and you're playing in the league and even in college, now, everybody's huge, man. These guys are tall, 7-footers, 7-2, 6'11, 6'9.

Speaker 9 And it's like, man, like, you look at a guy like McDaniels. He's like 6'9 out there on the court.
And he doesn't look like it when he's out there running around with those guys.

Speaker 1 Moving, too. I mean, it is just, it's gassers.
There's running gassers.

Speaker 1 That was my biggest takeaway last night, other than the fact that the arena was awesome. The Pacers are great.
Tyrese is a dog. Siakam's a dog, like everything about that.

Speaker 1 But whenever you just think about the sport that's being played in front of your eyes, it's like they're so gigantic and they're just running so much. I don't know how you guys do it.
82-game season.

Speaker 1 Physical. Yeah, people are talking about, you know, like taking a break and what they call it?

Speaker 1 Load management. Load management or whatever.
It's like, I bet you if I was in a league, which I never would be, but let's say I was born six foot seven and I had an absolute wet jumper.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just a wet jumper.

Speaker 1 And they had me running a lot. If I was given an opportunity, probably, hey, do you want to take tonight off? I think I would probably,

Speaker 1 I think I would have probably said yes to that because of.

Speaker 9 And these dudes are so talented.

Speaker 9 Like today's game, like the right now at present day, you could go from the top to the bottom of the roster and it's more guys that could do a little everything that's got so much talent than it's ever been in the history of the game.

Speaker 9 Like when we like, you know, earlier generations, you had guys like a Reggie Miller. He was just, he was a shooter.
He was a sniper. That's what he's going to be legendary for.

Speaker 9 Now you got guys just like Steph Kirby that's like the he's the N1 ball handle king. He's AI.
He's Reggie Miller. He's a bunch of of guys wrapped up into one.

Speaker 9 Same thing when you look at a guy like Pascal Siakim. He's like, you know, he's a wing guy, but he's a post guy.
He doesn't miss mid-ranges. He'll dunk on you.
He rebounds. He defends.

Speaker 9 It's like these guys are so talented and so gifted. And then, like you said, 6'10, 6'11, Wimby, 7'5, playing like a guard, doing different things.

Speaker 9 The level of talent and the abilities these guys have.

Speaker 9 all in one player it's never been seen before how how many of these guys can do so much stuff that needs to be showcased more because on TV, it just looks normal.

Speaker 1 You know, like 6'6 just looks like 5'11 whenever you watch on TV. And whenever I go to a game, I'm like,

Speaker 1 I forgot how fucking gigantic because they're walking right in front of me too. They're walking right in front of me.
And it's like, holy shit, I forgot that you are one of one.

Speaker 1 What did you want to say, Jage? QR, I have a question for you. You obviously played 13 years.
You've seen the game transition over time.

Speaker 1 As we talk about this, have you seen the training, whether it's the weight room, whether it's running, evolve over time?

Speaker 1 I know even in the NFL, we're seeing obviously kids are in these programs starting young. So athletes are just getting bigger, stronger, and faster.

Speaker 1 Is the NBA similar or is that more about a skill like shot making?

Speaker 9 No, it's all in one. The skills and the shot make, I mean, it's obvious.
Like we replicate what we see.

Speaker 9 So now they've been able to see all of these different things and they're able to put it all together. But the training has absolutely gone barns.

Speaker 9 Like these kids are getting trained at such a high level at a young age.

Speaker 9 That's why they're able to do so many different things because they get in the gym and they train, train train train the difference between this generation and our generation we we didn't train nearly as much we went to parks we went to courts open gyms and we played all day long played against each other and that was like our work that was that was more of the work we did we tried different things we figured different things out but now the the skill level is so high because of the level of training they're getting they're getting training it's starting at six seven years old on up and they they they training with they these guys grow up and they say i got a guy i got a trainer that's that's been training me for this this long and like they they develop these skills and be when you're going in the gym at a young age and you're actually focused and honing in on putting in work on different things they got no choice but to get better and you seeing that out on the court i mean obviously you know the coaches and different things would rather some things be honed in but when you just look at these guys individually and you look at the level of skill that they have and the different things and the tools they have it's incredible man when you see so many guys that could do so many different things, when the earlier generations, it was kind of focused on this guy can do this, this guy could do that, and now these guys is putting all of this in their own tool bag.

Speaker 1 I mean, that goes into a much larger conversation about the state of the game and, you know, the skill of the game versus the quality, like all that.

Speaker 1 I mean, there's just like it happens in football, it happens in every sport. Certainly happens in the NBA.
It was an honor to watch everybody do their thing last night. That was right in front of me.

Speaker 1 That was early.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was nice to see. That was nice to see.
And he has such an abnormal shot. Yeah.
That thing's falling, though. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 And then his free throws, too, the way he shoots them, it's like it's fallen. He's looking to assist every single time.
And then Ben Matherin got in in relief of Tyrese.

Speaker 1 Tyrese got like extended minutes of just chilling on the sideline. And it was like you looked over.
He had a heat pack on his back, had a little heat pack on his legs.

Speaker 1 And it's like every minute they steal with him on the bench, it's like good for the long term whenever they go and run it. It's like, I love what they're doing over there.

Speaker 1 Now let's go to the West, shall we? Debut, go ahead.

Speaker 3 Big game, big must-win game for the Timberwolves coming up. They're one, two-punch.
Kind of been inconsistent.

Speaker 3 Ant-Man last game, you know, didn't score a bunch, didn't get enough shots, in my opinion. And then Julius Randle has been very up and down when it comes to putting the ball in the bucket.

Speaker 3 What can they do there to get those two guys going against OKC?

Speaker 9 Obviously, man, I think Ant's shot... Shot output kind of is predicated on what everybody else is doing.

Speaker 9 Like if everybody else isn't playing well and nobody's posing any threats, that gives the OKC Thunder more room to load up and to shadow him and to put more eyes on him everywhere he's going.

Speaker 9 That's what he's seeing when he's saying that he didn't feel like he had a bad game because he made the right plays.

Speaker 9 Because you got to understand, as the ball handler, when you come down or you come off a screen or you're going to make a drive, and when you look at the basket and look at the lane, you see three to four different sets of eyes and you see long arms in the lane.

Speaker 9 You see guys shading over and different things like that. That's trouble.
You don't just drive into that. So to his credit, he was making

Speaker 9 the best plays but he still as the superstar that team as the guy he has to find a way with the way they're playing them to get more shots up and to be more productive for his team as far as Julius Randle goes this was the reason that I was nervous in this series because he had been outstanding throughout the end of the second half of the season and going down the stretch in these playoffs the first two seasons series he was he was out of control balling hooping for them and he needed to stay at that level for them to have a chance in this series and that hasn't happened so for me that was going to be the difference in the series.

Speaker 9 If he could go and still be that guy averaging 24 around 6-6, they would be in a different predicament because then Anthony Edwards would have more room to do his thing.

Speaker 9 But with him not being able to do that and being up and down, and the other players being inconsistent as well, they've been able to load up and give Anthony Edwards all the problems in the world.

Speaker 1 Hey, that's why depth is such a

Speaker 1 important thing this time of year, right? Because if one of your superstars isn't, you know, making everything like they had been for a while, somebody else could step up. That's just Pacers team.

Speaker 1 The Pacers team in a nutshell is like we have different guys that'll step up every single night. Tyrese is the facilitator who's going to make it all happen.

Speaker 1 That's why he doesn't always have the most amount of points because he's running the offense. He's the coach on the court.

Speaker 1 He's point guard, obviously, who can also score, obviously, had 30 plus last night. But it's like we have a plethora of, feels like Oklahoma City too, deep, right?

Speaker 1 Is that the right thing? And if you look at the Pacers, what did Sean say? Seventh or eighth lowest? Payroll? Payroll, yep.

Speaker 1 I assume Oklahoma City, I don't know what it is, but I would assume similar, not the big markets.

Speaker 9 They about to deliver a whole bank, not the Brinkstruck, a whole bank about to be sitting at Shag's Door this time. You can believe he's about to get about close to 400 million.

Speaker 9 He's going to be, whoo, you're talking about pay. He's about, it's about, I think it's, I think the number is like 379, 380 or something to be exact.
But it's, yeah, they about not a drink.

Speaker 1 Oklahoma? Yeah, 70.

Speaker 1 Could you imagine $380 million in Oklahoma City? Holy shit.

Speaker 1 Woo. Geez.
Good for him.

Speaker 1 You could probably bought it. Yeah, good for him.

Speaker 9 Very good for him.

Speaker 1 You remember Matt Stafford got drafted number one overall? They gave him $60 million or something like that before he even stepped foot into the NFL or Detroit.

Speaker 1 And I thought to myself, like, $60 million at that point in Detroit. I think he could have...
Bought the whole city. Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 3 That was right off F the recession.

Speaker 1 Yeah, tough times in Detroit at that time. I remember he just sold it a couple years ago and I saw the pictures.
It was a badass. Was it a log cabin?

Speaker 1 No, it was much nicer.

Speaker 1 It was on a lake, I believe. Oh, beautiful.
Lake cabin. Don't fall into this QR.
Don't fall into this.

Speaker 1 Okay, so depth matters. Minnesota might not have as much.
OKC definitely does.

Speaker 1 We, the Pacers, have a lot of depth. Watching the Knicks, I think Tibbs played like 10 guys last night or something like that.
And on Sunday, when they got a win, he played nine guys.

Speaker 1 I think that matters a lot. But I also think the person that's kind of directing the traffic is very important in basketball.

Speaker 1 I know in some sports, I think we heard Biz talk about the hockey where he said coaching, yeah, it's a lot of reactionary stuff. Dump the puck, you react how you do that.

Speaker 1 Basketball, it feels like this stage, coaching very much matters. Go ahead, Con Man.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Q Rich, it feels like Rick Carlisle is kind of the elder statesman of the coach's left.

Speaker 4 He became top 10 in playoff wins last night with that victory and with them possibly going to the finals in the OKC and Timberwolves coaches being a little bit younger than him.

Speaker 4 It feels like they have that advantage. How important is that for Rick Carlisle? And then kind of a separate question as well.

Speaker 4 Pat talked about James Johnson, kind of the vibes he brings to the Pacers bench and locker room.

Speaker 4 How important is it to have that vet kind of OG like James Johnson who can kind of set the tone for everybody?

Speaker 4 And is that someone Rick Carlisle uses to make sure his message is getting across in the locker room?

Speaker 9 Yeah, man,

Speaker 9 Rick Carlisle has been a championship coach and a very good coach in this league for a long time now. So I'm not surprised at all about what he, the job he's been able to do.

Speaker 9 He's been coach of the year in this league. His teams always have an identity, and

Speaker 9 they represent what he wants them to represent. And so I'm not surprised at the job he's doing at all.
He's been doing this his way for a long time.

Speaker 9 And I think it does work because he's very connected with this Indiana team.

Speaker 9 He has an extension from himself as far as Tyrese Halley Burton, who's a true point guard, who checks in and they see out of eye the whole game. So I think he's a huge deal for them.

Speaker 9 As far as JJ, man, yeah, I'm a firm believer that the teams need that guy in the locker room. It's a true veteran, and he's also a true enforcer.

Speaker 9 But I mean, the thing about JJ is that you've seen he got thrown in the game the other day. He got right in there, scored some buckets, and did his thing.

Speaker 9 He's not just some physical intimidator or enforcer out there. If you give him minutes, he can actually still play.
And I'm sure he proves that on a daily basis the whole season long in practice.

Speaker 9 And he wouldn't have the voice and the place he has on that team if he wasn't that type of dude who's going to go out there in practice. He's in the struggle.

Speaker 9 He's in the fight with them. He's going through the hard, rigorous, all of the stuff they got to do.
So he's boots on the ground.

Speaker 9 But they all know at the same time that he got hands and everybody know it and he not somebody that you really want to have problems with. He like a black belt or something.

Speaker 9 He known for being about that life. So, you know what I'm saying? Like everybody knows that.
And you don't earn that reputation, you know what I'm saying, without doing certain things.

Speaker 9 And he's taking those steps. He's taking those fines.
And people who know and are aware of that. And so, you know,

Speaker 9 that come with a little badge when you do what you got to do.

Speaker 1 He,

Speaker 1 last night, the way he was able to direct this fan's attention.

Speaker 1 This fan, I don't know if you heard me tell the story earlier or not. This fan, front row, great shit talker.
New York City shit talker. I mean, he was right behind us, so I got to hear it.

Speaker 1 Great persistence, good tone, good delivery, good

Speaker 1 emphasis. You know, on the slide.
Good shit talker. Clearly was a good shit talker.
At Tyree, Tyrese. Boom, boom, boom.

Speaker 1 And then just James out of nowhere, just let me go ahead and take that attention right here, buddy. And then that guy was just talking shit down the bench to James for the rest of the game.

Speaker 1 And it's like, now Tyrese doesn't have to deal with this guy who's four feet behind him for the rest of the game. It's like, even that little thing, I'm like, genius.
That is such a good play.

Speaker 1 And then you talk about him getting on the court. I think he still had.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he still had his bracelet on.

Speaker 1 I think he had the bracelets on, too. He gets out there, obviously, does his thing.
It's like, to your point, have to be good at ball for anybody to respect you.

Speaker 1 That's, that's number one one in this entire thing, especially in the NBA. For the NFL, it's the same.
If you bring a vet into the locker room and

Speaker 1 the guy stinks, you know,

Speaker 1 the locker room's probably not going to respect the guy. Even like,

Speaker 1 you know, they might like him as a person, probably not going to respect the guy.

Speaker 1 Even if the coaches are trying their best to make this guy be the veteran leader of the team, you know, giving game balls out and stuff to guys. Sure.
You know?

Speaker 3 Usually it's a relationship with that player and that coach.

Speaker 1 Yes, that comes together. Yeah, and it's kind of like it.
Half a pressure.

Speaker 1 Game ball. Oh.
Yeah, that happened in our,

Speaker 1 it was tough. It was putting that guy in a bad spot.
No, oh, it's putting him in a horrible spot. Yeah, but he had to just walk out there and say, yeah, here we go, boys.
And we loved him as a guy.

Speaker 1 But it was certainly a situation where it was like, this ain't real. Okay.
We need to maybe pick somebody else to do this with.

Speaker 1 I feel like the NBA is probably, all professional sports are probably the same way. The locker room knows immediately.

Speaker 6 You got to be genuine.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And James does a lot of talking, too.

Speaker 1 He is a chirper.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and when he went in against the Cavs, we were kind of reminded about it yesterday. He went in against the Cavs and basically just set a screen on Max Struce and just buried him

Speaker 1 immediately. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Incredible. This Pacers team is my habit.
All right, anyways, we will continue to follow

Speaker 1 this Eastern Conference finals and Western Conference finals until inevitably it's Indiana versus Oklahoma City, which is good for the NBA. Certainly.
Because we do we think it's a long series?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. If it's the other teams? Oh.

Speaker 1 No. No.
Everybody's talking about business, business, business, business, business. Seven games, probably better than four or five.

Speaker 4 Yeah, last year it was five and

Speaker 4 it stunk unless you were Celtics.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so I think that's what we should be looking for. Now, granted.

Speaker 9 Basketball is good business. That's the good business.
Whoever's playing the good basketball.

Speaker 1 Bingo. Yes.
That is, that is.

Speaker 1 That is sports. That is sports.
Now, granted, I can see how New York involved in anything is good for ratings because there's so many people.

Speaker 1 So many people over there.

Speaker 1 That is certainly a valid conversation, but like six, seven games, a lot better than four or five games if we're just talking business, business, business, business all the time, which is what everybody seems to be.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's not bad business if the Indiana Pacers are in this. It's like, what if they're the best team? That's bad business for the best team to be in the finals.
That seems like a dumb thing.

Speaker 1 Nonetheless, we'll continue to fall. This offseason, though, Q, is about to be a term that

Speaker 1 we've never heard. Go ahead, Ty.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Q, we had Shams on the show yesterday, and he said, I quote, this might might be the most craziest offseason ever.

Speaker 1 His words, not ours. Correct.

Speaker 2 Now, when you take that into account, do you agree with that? Do you think we're going to see a bunch of players changing teams that kind of changes like the dynamic of the NBA as a whole?

Speaker 2 Obviously, some of these teams, like the Pacers and the Thunder, probably aren't going to look a whole lot different, but there is, you know, a possibility that KD's on a new team and Giannis is on a new team and all these different superstars.

Speaker 2 Do you think that's going to happen this season? Are we going to see a lot of household names change teams?

Speaker 9 I don't know about how many, but I do know normally when you have that type of seismic activity with a Giannis or KD potentially moving, there's always moves made after that.

Speaker 9 So, I mean, you know, when those type of names are looming going into the summer, you can expect that this is like going to be a big summer. I mean, Shams is paid to know way more than I do.

Speaker 9 So maybe he knows some other things that might be on the brink of happening that I don't know. But yeah, I mean, I'm excited for it, man.

Speaker 9 I'm super excited to just see and watch everything that's going to happen and see how things unfold and how it play out.

Speaker 9 Because, I mean, I definitely think when you got, when it's potentially a KD and a Giannis moving,

Speaker 9 it's no telling what else could happen. And on the heels of a KD, I mean, an AD for Luca trade.
So, you know, right now, it's anything could happen.

Speaker 9 Everybody's still trying to jockey and position themselves after that Luca and AD trade. So I definitely believe it's going to be some stuff going on this summer.

Speaker 1 You're great for basketball, Q, Rich. We appreciate the hell out of you, man.
Enjoy your day.

Speaker 9 All right, fellas, appreciate y'all.

Speaker 1 Hey, Pacers in

Speaker 1 five, or how's this thing go?

Speaker 9 I don't know, man. I think, I definitely think they gonna, New York gonna throw the kitchen sink at them.
I don't think they just gonna lay down.

Speaker 9 I think they could get this one in the garden, and then I think Indiana comes back and does its thing. I don't think it goes past game six, because if it goes past game six, the Knicks gonna win.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we know, yeah, let's take it easy.

Speaker 9 I don't think it's gonna go down.

Speaker 9 Right about to keep the kitchen sink from the Knicks and the garden, and then when they come back, the Pacers got to throw the kitchen sink at them and try and put them down.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't think I helped the entire situation over there in Master Square Garden, I don't think, either.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, Claim Lucas said, Thanks, Judge. Thank you, Rich.
What'd you say there, JJ? I thought you were talking about the next series. I thought you were talking about the next.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. Come on, come on, come on, come on.
What do you think about this?

Speaker 1 We don't look towards the future. There's a lot of looking towards the future.
There is a lot of looking towards the future, especially in the city of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. So let's talk about it.

Speaker 1 What do you know, Jage? Who's going to be the quarterback of the Pittsburgh Steelers? I mean, I don't have any inside information.

Speaker 1 I would assume the same as everybody else, it'll most likely be Aaron Rodgers. Your head is

Speaker 1 six-size. Hey, just kicked that earpiece out of your left ear there, said see you later.
You think Aaron Rodgers is going to be the quarterback? Are you hearing anything from the inside sources?

Speaker 1 No, I'm not. I'm literally not.
But I would assume that seems to be the way that all directions are pointing. Let's go to one half of the Hammer.
Don. Cowboys currently residing in Hammer.
Don. Don.

Speaker 1 AP Tone. Tone.
Any Pittsburgh Steelers, insider questions for J.J. Watt? Because he certainly has information.
This is going to be like an AJ Hawk type scenario, but let's see how he dances.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I almost regret asking this because it has been so quiet, and I don't want people to talk about it. But there is still the contract looming out there.

Speaker 7 Jay just got, or sorry, TJ has got one year left on his contract.

Speaker 7 Is there any update on that situation?

Speaker 1 You don't need to regret anything. It's okay.
All right.

Speaker 1 I made a mistake.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's a television show. It's fine.
Coming

Speaker 1 up.

Speaker 1 Coming off the bench here. I haven't talked in 30 minutes.
You got to kill me. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 Oh, good segment. Good segment.

Speaker 1 Oh, wait.

Speaker 1 Whoa, he regretted something.

Speaker 1 No, I do. I mean, I have a lot of information on that subject.

Speaker 1 That's not my subject to discuss. Okay, so you are JJ, not TJ.
So you don't feel like you should be the one speaking on TJ's situation with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 1 Let's talk about defensive ends and quarterback tacklers as a whole then. Okay.
Because TJ is probably seeing the same thing.

Speaker 1 We won't make you say, we will say the things that we assume TJ has seen in the situation that TJ is currently in. TJ, obviously, I think going into the last year of his contract,

Speaker 1 very much below what the current market is, especially for the best pass rushers in all football. Miles Garrett just cracked open.
Okay, a vault in Cleveland.

Speaker 1 Now, this is a Cleveland move to pay top money, maybe over money for their pillar players. If they think they're a pillar player or know they're a pillar player, this has been Haslam's move.

Speaker 1 $40 million for Miles Garrett. Now, we know you probably wouldn't have retired if you knew the $40 million a year was possible for the defensive end position.
So I will speak that for you.

Speaker 1 But everybody else that got paid this offseason, huge numbers. Teege down there towards the bottom of the money, let alone the guaranteed money left on contracts.

Speaker 1 Trey Hendrickson down there at the bottom as well.

Speaker 1 Trey Hendrickson's story is much louder than TJ's story because Trey Hendrickson has come out and said like, hey, you've kicked can down the road three years now, basically, with me.

Speaker 1 Either pay me or trade me is kind of his messaging in Super Bowl. Since then, there's still been no conversation.

Speaker 1 Ownership of the Bengals said, sometimes some of these players just need to be happy with what they got. And Trey Hendricks is, what are we talking about? Seriously? I'm literally the sacking.

Speaker 1 So whenever you see this market happening, and then obviously you have family involved in this type of situation and it's brewing, and then you see what's happening with Trey Hendrickson, a man who I assume you know and get along with well.

Speaker 1 What are your thoughts on it? And how do you think it all ends up kind of settling out?

Speaker 1 I've long been a big believer that ownership and front offices obviously treat this like a business, but they do not like it when the players flip the script on them and treat it like a business back.

Speaker 1 Taking care of your guys earlier does a few things for you. Number one,

Speaker 1 it gets them locked in at a lower price in the long run. I mean, you look at what prices are doing every single year.
You get them locked in at a lower price. Number two, you're keeping them happy.

Speaker 1 Because even even now, let's say, look at Trey Hendrickson's situation. Let's say they pay him now.

Speaker 1 Now there's all this resentment, there's all this animosity, and yeah, $40 million or whatever it is cures a whole lot of that, and he's going to act like everything is great and everything is wonderful.

Speaker 1 But you just went through a whole bunch of time where there was some disrespect, where there's some hurt feelings, and now you're going to go back into a building and act like everything's okay.

Speaker 1 If you take care of things early, especially when players want to take care of things earlier and say that they'll take less money to take care of things earlier because it sets themselves up long-term financially,

Speaker 8 do that.

Speaker 1 Because if you don't do that, that's when the problems start to arise. And now all of a sudden you say, hey, we have to kick this can down the road because of the way everything's working out.

Speaker 1 You kick the can down the road, the can gets a whole lot bigger. And then the player says, well, the can's a lot bigger now, fill it up.

Speaker 1 And you don't want to fill it up because you say, well, we have to pay all these other guys, we have to take care of these other things.

Speaker 1 It's like, well, I wanted to fill the can way back down here when it was a little soup can. Now we got ourselves a garbage pail.
Hey, that's on you. Hey, that's on

Speaker 1 the situation, the amount of risk, you know, involved in it all. Because if you're willing to take less earlier, there's a reason you're willing to take less because it's setting you up for comfort.

Speaker 1 There's something else coming alongside of it.

Speaker 1 But if you're going to make me take the risk of playing this entire thing, potentially ending my career, potentially getting an injury, potentially whatever the case is, and then that means the other thing,

Speaker 1 the comfort has been very low. So there is a fee for the comfort here.
That is how business, that is literally how business goes. Exactly.
And we've seen Trey say it publicly.

Speaker 1 The team says that they're going to talk to you early in the year we're going to get this thing done we just just let us get through this season and then we'll make sure we take care of it early and then you come early in the offseason and you say hey let's take care of this we said we were going to do this early you said it was going to all be all of a sudden it's crickets all of a sudden it's silence or it's hey we have to get through the combine hey we have to get through free agency it's like whoa whoa whoa we talked about last year you said if we kicked the can down the road we were going to take care of it We're not taking care of it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the resentment's a real deal. That's just like Miles Garrett.
Everybody was like, Miles Garrett said all those things about wanting to win and not just being a highly paid player or whatever.

Speaker 1 And then they're like, well, 40 million can make up for it. It's like, it can.

Speaker 1 You know, I think obviously 40 million having satin sheets in a massive log cabin probably over there in Cleveland can certainly help out.

Speaker 1 But inevitably, he's going to have to lay his head down at night whenever things aren't going well and be like, is this the right decision? You know, we saw Tyreek down in Miami.

Speaker 1 Tyreek takes a massive payday from the Miami Dolphins as opposed to potentially less money in Kansas City. Tyreek's certainly worthy of the money.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying he wasn't, but there came a point now where he's like, I would like to win some games and get back in meaningful football. So there's always a fine balance in your decision making.

Speaker 1 But anytime people sacrifice comfort and make people risk, there's going to be a fee that comes alongside of that.

Speaker 1 That's why what the Philadelphia Eagles did with Saquon, Saquon Barkley this year, they just re-upped him out of nowhere. That came out of nowhere for us.

Speaker 1 We got a text literally like, hey, Saquon might be getting a new deal. And I'm like, Saquon? Didn't he have like two years, three years left on his deal?

Speaker 1 They're like, yeah, they just want to kind of compensate him. for what he did for the team early and let him know.

Speaker 1 It's like you tell the whole locker room, like, hey, if you do the right shit here and you perform for for us, we're going to pay you.

Speaker 1 You have Saquon locked in now for three years, whatever, happy that he got paid big in the long run.

Speaker 1 And then you also give a message to your fan base, like, hey, we invest in the people that do good shit here. It's like such a good thing to do.

Speaker 1 It's also a conversation that we've seen start to bubble up a little bit about cash rich ownership versus cash poor ownership and who has the ability to pay big money up front and lay it out over void years on the back end versus other owners who can't afford to put that money in escrow at the moment right now.

Speaker 1 That's a conversation I know that they're seeing at the league level that they're trying to start to find a solution to because there's teams and there's ownership that has the ability to do some incredible things from a contract standpoint that other teams literally can't do.

Speaker 3 You had a nuttle in the head too. Like it's bigger than just that player.
That message to the locker room.

Speaker 3 That's a big deal, especially for a guy like Trey Henderson, who has been everything, not only on the field, but off the field as far as character. He's done everything right.
You talked about Saquon.

Speaker 3 Buffalo did it with Josh Allen, giving him a brand new deal with I think three years, two or three years left on his deal. And it just says, hey, you do the right things.

Speaker 3 We're going to take care of you. Continue to do it and you'll fall in line.
Philly, not only Saquon, they signed AJ, Devontae, I think Milada.

Speaker 1 Zach Johnson got the new deal.

Speaker 3 Zach Bond got rewarded for his year. So like, hey, you should.

Speaker 1 Shari.

Speaker 3 And to JJ's point, take care of it early.

Speaker 1 Two years down the line, it's going to be a completely different ballgame. That's a perfect point.
You're sending a message to the locker room.

Speaker 1 If you handle your business, if you do your job, we will take care of you. I looked at the Texans with Nico Collins.

Speaker 1 His deal right now looks like one of the best deals in football because they took care of him early. He played well.
They saw what he was doing. They took care of him early.

Speaker 1 Now they take care of Derek Stingley early. Next year, they're going to have to worry about C.J.
Stroud and Will Anderson. They'll take care of them.

Speaker 1 It's just one of those things where if you show the locker room, do things the right way, we'll pay you. All of a sudden, your culture handles itself because

Speaker 1 nobody in the locker room's in a corner talking about, I wonder if they're going to pay him. Are they not going to pay him? Everybody's just like, oh, wow, this place treats us good.

Speaker 1 We should treat them good in return. What is the big issue trying to deem who's worthy of of being a pillar person? Because you're paying your pillars.

Speaker 1 Because whenever you lock into those big deals, it's like, hey, now we got to manage this contract over the next four years.

Speaker 1 Even if it's less than what it would have been in two years from now, it's still a big contract that we just gave to somebody two to three years ahead of schedule.

Speaker 1 You know, because everything operates on schedules. This is where we think the salary cap is going to be.
This is where we are. This is where we're going to be.
This is what the contracts are.

Speaker 1 So just picking the right people, I guess, is the fear is what they say. Why not?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, the fear is obviously that it's whether it's injury, whether it's play decreasing, whether it's off-the-field issues, or you give a guy money and all of a sudden he stops working as hard or whatever it may be.

Speaker 1 Oh, fat pockets. Like, it might be those.
But again, we're paying these guys no matter what. Like, guys are getting paid across this league, whether it's with your team, whether it's someone else.

Speaker 1 At some point, you're paying the piper. You can point to a handful of deals that didn't work out, obviously, where the guy got big money.

Speaker 1 And he had, I mean, Albert Haynes was the one that he always goes back to.

Speaker 1 No, it doesn't anymore. It goes back to one guy.

Speaker 1 Now it goes back to one guy. He plays quarterback.
Yeah. You know him.
He did play quarterback very good at one point in the land. When you were playing.
Yeah, when you

Speaker 1 know, that'll be considered the deal.

Speaker 1 No, can't do

Speaker 1 230 of them.

Speaker 3 That's the thing, though. You've got to not only pay for what that player has done, but what you project them to do.

Speaker 3 So that's why when you get players, especially once you start getting around that 30 mark, a lot of these people who just crunch numbers and they

Speaker 3 not necessarily know ball or know your work ethic or know your offseason and how you train all these different things. They make those decisions like, hey, he's at this point.

Speaker 3 Let somebody else pay him or overpay him. And you got to be in a position where you got to, and if you're wrong.

Speaker 3 which it does happen, you know, you're going to be asked, it's going to be there to cash.

Speaker 4 Well, and even like the message to your own locker room, but like also a message to the league.

Speaker 4 Like if you're a free agent and you're deciding between Philadelphia and Cincinnati and you're thinking about, hey, which team is going to reward me when I go there and play super well, you're not going to think the Cincinnati Bengals because of what has happened.

Speaker 4 And even for like A.J. Brown, A.J.
Brown gets traded to Philly. They pay him a bunch of money and then they give him an extension.

Speaker 4 Devontae Smith, they pay before, like all those, you know, top teams that are competing, Chiefs, Eagles, Lions, like those three teams pay guys before damn near anybody else.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and they're doing well. You know, it feels like you can get into a rhythm.
They paid Patrick Mahomes massive deal early. They can play with that contract now.
Travis Kelsey has got another deal.

Speaker 1 It's like all the teams that are good are seemingly ahead of schedule. They kind of know what's going on.
They can forecast what's going to happen.

Speaker 1 All the people that are just trying to kind of hang on, seems like it doesn't always work out. Quarterbacks.
Yeah, you got to have a quarterback.

Speaker 1 That all starts there. But like, I mean, we're looking at the Bengals right now with the situations that they're in, like, they missed the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Like, you have one of the best quarterbacks in the entire NFL. That's the gold ticket.
That's the golden goose. That's the asset that you need to make everything else fall into place.

Speaker 1 They just weren't able to make everything else fall into places yet. Do you have any questions for JJ Watt? All you got to do is head over to X and use the hashtag AskJ.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Hashtag AskJ.
Jage and that actual picture of JJ Watt will be a part of answering your question. Now, if you make it good, there's a better chance it's going to make the program.

Speaker 1 Shitty questions don't get asked, but there's no such thing as a bad question. There are certainly dumb ones, though.
Certainly. And you should know that.

Speaker 2 Jage, in your opinion with the Trey Hendrickson situation, I don't think he really is like this as a person, but do you think it would service him a little bit better if he was maybe like a little bit more of a prick?

Speaker 2 Because he's been so amicable the whole time.

Speaker 1 I said it a couple weeks ago.

Speaker 2 Like it's kind of the basketball squeaks Galari situation where he basically said like, hey, listen, if you guys rip on me 16 or 17 more times, like I'm out of here. I'm done doing this.

Speaker 2 Like, and again, he's a God-fearing man. We've had him on.
Like, it doesn't seem like that's really his M.O., but you think that's part of it too?

Speaker 2 The ownership's like, well, like, we can kind of push this guy around because everything we've done, like, he's kind of been okay with it. His stance hasn't changed at all.

Speaker 1 I mean, you also have to look at it a little bit like the Tyrese Halliburton situation. Small market, he's been playing phenomenal football for years.

Speaker 1 I mean, led the league in Sachs and those things, but he doesn't have the national star power that some of these other guys have from bigger markets, bigger cities, or more talkative, boisterous personalities, things like that.

Speaker 1 So then, yeah, like you said, it almost puts you back in that little box where the guy, the ownership can say, well, he's not going to make us think about it. Why wouldn't we keep doing that?

Speaker 1 I think that's probably part of the reason that he's been talking as much as he has lately and trying to lay it out. It's such a hard spot as a player because I fully understand.

Speaker 1 Fans are sitting there like, you're complaining when they're offering you $25 million.

Speaker 1 You're complaining when they're offering you $30 million. How could you ever complain about that? Agree, Don't Crazy Thanksgiving.
We understand. Like, yes, it's insane.

Speaker 1 This is all nuts, but it's business and that's how this whole thing works. So Trey wants to sit there and he wants to lay everything out for the fans.

Speaker 1 He wants to say, this is exactly what they told me that they would do. And they have now not followed through with that.
So what do you expect me to do?

Speaker 1 I'm coming here just to let you know what I'm going through so you don't think I'm some selfish bastard trying to get my money.

Speaker 1 Like I'm just trying to follow through with what they told me they would do. But then you go out and say that and now people are like, look at this guy.
This guy. Look at this guy.

Speaker 1 This piece of coffee. This guy.
Look at this guy. This guy.
You're lucky to play football for the Bengals. And we also don't.
I would love to play football for the Bengals.

Speaker 1 We don't want our guys to give cookie-cutter answers. We don't want our guys to just give the standard press conference lines.

Speaker 1 But when they do go up there and they tell you exactly what's going on and they say exactly what's happening behind the scenes, all of a sudden we don't like what we hear. And this guy's a jerk.

Speaker 1 This guy's an asshole. Distracted.
I don't like his negative attitude. They're not going to win with that.
So I hear it. I understand it.
It's frustrating, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you were a man that was a hero in a city and then inevitably had to head to another team. I couldn't even imagine what that was like for you, obviously moving from Houston over there to Phoenix.

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Speaker 1 Hello, people, and welcome back to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this Superstar.

Speaker 1 Hey, play the Trumps for you. Hour two begins now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Unbelievable.
I had a real shit show right there. Got on the phone, my earpiece fell out, and I missed the sports.

Speaker 1 I can't get that down. Ladies and gentlemen, it's JJ Watts.

Speaker 1 Great to have you here, Jage. You look amazing.
You look like you're in incredible shape. Still lifting, still working out.
Yeah. Still not fully retired? No, fully retired.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Put it on the seat geek ticker down there. JJ Watt is fully retired.
Still lifting, though, still getting after it. Yeah, not 100% sure why or what for.
Just can't give it up. Old dog, new tricks.

Speaker 1 What are you doing? What type of workouts? Are we maybe doing Pilates to stretch out as we get older? Benching? Yeah. What's that? Probably should.
Benching for the.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, because you and A.Q. Shipley have a

Speaker 1 225 off with Tim T. Bow? I had a good run where I was ready for that, and I didn't need to ramp it back up.
Yeah, we're going to do it in the summer when there's nothing. Yeah.
Just baseball.

Speaker 1 When did you think it was going to be? You thought it was going to be during the playoffs? NBA and NHL playoffs? Oh, definitely not when the Pacers were in it, of course. Thank you.

Speaker 1 That's what we're talking about. You're kind of coming back around on this whole thing, right? Yeah, a little bit here and there.
You squatting still? You're getting under the bar? Yep.

Speaker 1 You did yesterday, but did both yesterday. Yesterday was a good day.
How much did you squat yesterday?

Speaker 1 $465 for three. Just a couple of maintenance sense.
Do you have one one of those like super padded bars i mean come on guy red

Speaker 1 what is this fifth grade that's what went worth does he old school oh you're talking about these guys with the safety yeah it's great stuff

Speaker 1 guys are still pulling weight on her back just distributed a little differently i could put 700 on that today bet

Speaker 1 you think you're really good i mean i i squat yeah the safety bar with the handles yeah i mean

Speaker 1 seven what would you do now with a metal bar you did 465 for three i don't know what the math is 600 i could i could probably like comfortably if i was saying what i could i'd probably say five 505 525

Speaker 1 just walking around as a human comfortably he's just he's just a dad a husband right now that's right and a tv person yeah i could squat i could squat 500 pounds if i actually i'm going to do that right now i was at i was at a gym yesterday yesterday it was a public gym and uh what i needed you can't be doing that yeah it's okay it was quiet it's middle of the day you got to know your times but i was asking for a spot and because i needed it on my top set.

Speaker 1 And this guy came over and spotted me. And after the set, he goes, Hey, I just want to let you know I was your brother's stunt double on the old El Paso commercials.
You guys were awesome.

Speaker 1 It was a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 That's pretty cool. Where is this? This is in Wisconsin.
Yeah, it was in Wisconsin. It was just at a local gym.
I love that they casted it. Hey, we need a stunt double.

Speaker 1 We need it to be a basic, bland-looking white. We need to go to Wisconsin to find another Watt-looking lad.

Speaker 1 They all know what you, obviously. And immediately afterwards, do they say, of course, you're squatting 465 pounds on a Tuesday in the offseason as a retired football player.

Speaker 1 Is that what they say to you?

Speaker 1 There's looks. I mean, there's literally four people in there.
Like, you got to know your times. I can't go in there at 9 a.m.
I can't go in there at 5 p.m. But noon to three is a good window for me.

Speaker 1 Although, I'm screwed now, I guess. Yeah, who runs the office?

Speaker 1 Where is this gym? Yeah, who runs the office? This is great. Who runs the office? No, I don't, no, nobody.
I don't do music. People have their AirPods in, but I don't.

Speaker 1 I don't do music. Does the gym do music?

Speaker 1 You're Raw Bob 465 for three.

Speaker 1 Now that I think about it, they do have something soft playing.

Speaker 1 It's not like a

Speaker 1 yacht rock. It's not Waka Flocka.
It's a lot of ACDs. It's got higher love.
You don't got GDP. No, raw dog in it.
Straight raw dog.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I could probably get a couple more pounds if I put on some good music. Yeah, Waka Flocka was down in Tampa Bay the other night on the other rock.
Stole the show. I heard he was coming.

Speaker 1 I heard he was coming, and I just did Waka Flocka's greatest hits on the bus beforehand.

Speaker 1 Turned that up. Yeah.
Are you kidding me? The world needs a Waka Flocka back in this world.

Speaker 1 Every song, you knew what you were getting.

Speaker 1 When you talk about somebody knowing who they are and knowing knowing what's coming, whenever his name was attached to it, it's like if Waka Flocka is on a song, Titus O'Neal, he's on a dating show.

Speaker 1 21 women, him, Carlos Boozer, and Tyson Beckford living in a house. Dating show.

Speaker 1 It's coming on Bravo. Yeah, because he's like the mayor of Tampa, like legitimately knows everybody down there.
Obviously, legend in the WWE.

Speaker 1 Also, a Q Dog has the entire arena barking alongside of him every single night that he is mentioned. Yeah, he shows up, looks unbelievable.

Speaker 1 i'm like geez tits you look so good he goes though you know i'm sick of her or whatever and i'm like uh he said i think you're promoting a show tonight and i was like oh what's your show i had no idea what it was and he said dating show bravo 21 women looking three guys 21 women all living in the same house yeah that sounds a lot

Speaker 1 dating show a little more

Speaker 1 something else going on there

Speaker 1 look at this crew

Speaker 1 i don't know how he's gonna catch footballs that guy i do you think he's gonna do a great job i think so too it's offseason refreshing a mind let people be who they are.

Speaker 1 That's nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler right there.
Good luck, Titus and Boozer, and Beckford on Finding Love. Hopefully they win.
He'll be on Bravo. I think he, what?

Speaker 1 Hopefully they win. I think they, oh, it's in Finding Love.
Yeah. That's Talks Table, Lovers of Love.
How do they lose? At Boss Conner, at Ty Schmidt. I think in those reality shows, you can lose.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, but clap, maybe?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think you can certainly lose. There's a few ways to lose in that.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I wonder if it's going to be full-on.

Speaker 1 A lot lot of ways to win yeah

Speaker 1 I wonder if they're gonna be flipping tables and stuff they'll be flipping some were you so you were a I don't know how this is gonna transition this way I don't know what's were you ever asked to be like the batch I don't know your good question no it is a good question no I was not because there for a while you were the cock of the walk remember he was on everything yep you're on uh you're on everything you're correct you've actually talked about this with other people getting offered so much money to do such little work you feel obligated to say yes to it.

Speaker 1 And then all of a sudden, six months later, when everything comes out, everybody's saying, this guy's, I'm sick of this guy. It's like, well, I didn't know this was all going to be at the same time.

Speaker 1 And the amount of money I was getting paid to do,

Speaker 1 no work, I had to say yes to you. You've actually talked about that being a part of your life, but that was a part of your life.

Speaker 1 Were you offered movies? Were you offered in reality shows? Were you offered any of those things? Yeah. Yeah.
A little bit of, a little bit of everything. A new girl.
Yeah, new girl. Loved it.

Speaker 1 It was great. Yeah, a little bit of all that stuff.
But like you said,

Speaker 1 it was more about finding your way. I had to go through it all.
I had to find my way. I had to understand.
I had to go through a lot of hate and shit.

Speaker 1 I got to look back at things that I would do much differently if I could do them again.

Speaker 1 But that's part of figuring it out. And that's everybody that goes through it.
You're fortunate enough to have to figure it out because you got to.

Speaker 1 And I'm sure you've had very similar things as you go through this entire thing. Oh, yes.
Yeah, yeah. The only way you learn is to go through it.
And then

Speaker 1 you either quit or you just keep going. And it still gets hard.
I mean, still today, somebody will slap an offer down in front of you and you'll be like, man, it's a shitload of money. I mean, I've

Speaker 1 turned down very, very, very significant amounts of money because I just put it in the middle of the money. What are we talking about? Tens of millions?

Speaker 1 Multiple millions for certain things that I just, I couldn't do it. I couldn't, couldn't agree.
I bet JJ Williams. That's growth right there.
That's growth.

Speaker 1 That is growth. That's all you're looking for.
It is very difficult.

Speaker 1 I've never been on the JJ Watt level of things, obviously, but somebody will put something in front of you. I mean, it happened during COVID a lot.
Yeah. Hey, here's a fucking coin.

Speaker 1 Here's $2 million.

Speaker 1 Basically, you don't what do you what do I have to do you just gotta basically promote it for a couple months or whatever don't worry about it it's not real

Speaker 1 I know but they said we'll handle everything else basically here's two million dollars and I'm looking around like a lot of people are doing it and I'm like this seems too the P and P loan

Speaker 1 yeah the PPP loan triple P loan yeah PPP this seems too you start to get in that pharmaceutical world there's a lot a lot going on there

Speaker 1 oh I know what you're talking about all of a sudden

Speaker 1 how do you mean yeah you know you talk about billy gardell listen

Speaker 1 Billy Gardell changed a lot of life. Hit me up, Ozempic.
What up?

Speaker 1 That's a guy looking for an easy paycheck joining us now live from Manatican, Ohio. He's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a man that used to say click clack.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's great to see him

Speaker 1 Bic Pack. Yeah.
Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk. Yeah, I'm A.J.
Hoggle.

Speaker 1 Hawk tone saying, hey, listen, Ozempic, you want to show a guy transforming?

Speaker 1 I'll be your

Speaker 1 Buckleberry. There it is.

Speaker 6 I didn't think Ozempic, like, initially, when Jade said he turned down millions to do something with the pharmaceuticals. Me either.
That wasn't my first guess.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think we all know what it was. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We all know what it was. Jage and I are getting the same offers, AJ.

Speaker 7 I was playing my strengths, okay?

Speaker 1 You say, hey, I'm a kind of frumpy-looking guy on TV. Billy Gardell, a little bit bigger than me, same city, same town, same accent.
Certainly.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to figure out if I can actually say what it was or not. We know what it was.

Speaker 1 We all know what it was, buddy. No, you don't.

Speaker 1 We all know what it was. New genics? No, that's not what it was.
We all know what it was.

Speaker 2 If it was Nugenics and you turn that down, you and the big hurt?

Speaker 1 Yeah, Frank. Frank said, I'll take that off, JJ Walk.

Speaker 4 What is it?

Speaker 1 Come on, man.

Speaker 1 No one's does that.

Speaker 6 What's it rhyme with, Jage?

Speaker 2 We can always just dump it, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll dump it. Yeah,

Speaker 1 we don't.

Speaker 1 I don't think it rhymes with Aeroids. No.
It rhymes with Barfan. Huh? Bar fan.
Bar fan. Bar fan.
Bar fan. I mean, you can get it from that.

Speaker 6 Narcan? Yeah.

Speaker 6 Oh, you're trying to save people from overdoses?

Speaker 1 I think that would have been okay.

Speaker 1 It was a bad thing. What, you like overdoses? Yeah, like it was like a

Speaker 1 hefty back and forther where you're like. Well, you feel bad taking the money, I assume, too.
You're saving like a dog.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're taking the money

Speaker 1 because people are overdosed.

Speaker 1 That would have been a very dope. That might be.
We just did a good commercial for Narcan's, right? Yeah, you're welcome. Send the $3 million back.

Speaker 1 No, but it is weird because you feel weird taking the money. Yeah, like I'm like, it's an emergency.
It's saying it. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I understand.
I understand completely. Man, you are a fool.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 But, like, those,

Speaker 1 you know. Yes, that would be a tough thing.
That's why, yeah, like, you have to have those conversations with yourself. That's more of like an initiative as opposed to like a

Speaker 1 paid promotion. Yeah, I don't know.
They're going to see something worse. Yeah.
I thought it was. They're going to overdose whether you do it or not, Jage, they're still going to overdose.

Speaker 1 True, yeah, but if you give them a solution for the overdose, maybe there's more overdoses because now you have an answer.

Speaker 6 I think they know that solution is there already.

Speaker 1 Well, and you got to hope that something's around. Why are you getting a commercial then? That has to be.
Why do a commercial? Well, because they're paid you $3 million.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that is what. Listen.
Now I'm pissed. Because now I'm down $3 million.
And we already talked about it. Talking about it.
This is bullshit. Hey, good news, bro.
Send it. Send it.

Speaker 1 I will accept it now. Barley's backup.
Yeah. Boom.

Speaker 1 That's got real quiet when we started dominating the the whole world. You think we paid attention?

Speaker 1 We did not know we got quiet. I just want to let you know that.
To be clear, found out you got up today. Yeah.
Congratulations to all of you team. We're very happy for you.

Speaker 1 So you guys are back in the Premier League. Yeah, it's literally one of the greatest seasons of all time.
Our guys are incredible. 100 points.
Only gave up, I think, 14 goals the entire season.

Speaker 1 Fall time. It's unbelievable.
We talk about financial stuff, you know,

Speaker 1 coming and going. This is good news.

Speaker 1 You guys are back in the Premier uh league right as an owner of an english soccer team yes very good um obviously extremely expensive to try and stay up and try and do everything but yes being in the premier league is do we have a chance in a premier league or are we gonna are we gonna do this dance no they're bringing it home you should hear the point you got cristiano ronaldo coming to the team i don't think so um but i do like to keep our transfer plans under wraps so sure you never know so what about lou messier again again i mean coming to the end of that miami run you just never know well burnley is not a name i don't think that's being talked about for Lou or for Cristiano Ronaldo, but maybe they should.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and just keep things under wraps, like those teams that fly under the radar, and then all of a sudden. We're in the Premier League now.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Lou and Ronaldo play together for the first time ever. Oh, my God.
For the Claire. They were thinking about that for the FIFA World Club Cup or whatever.
Isn't that true?

Speaker 13 That is on the table. Cristiano is going to play for a team in that Club World Cup.
We just don't know who it is.

Speaker 1 I've touched that trophy. It's a real deal.
Yeah. It is the real deal, this trophy.
It's almost also for how much money for the winner?

Speaker 13 $100 million. Cristiano is a free agent right now.
So if he wants to play on Concafa TST, I'd like to say, you know,

Speaker 1 come on down. Oh, yeah, next week, TST, down in Kerry, North Carolina.
Cristiano Ronaldo, you have a team, Concafa. We are paying a little bit of money, too.

Speaker 1 So don't think it's just a charity opportunity here. We need you to play hard, too, Cristiano.

Speaker 1 We need you to know that this matters, and more people are going to see this than what they've been seeing in America, in the world. Correct.
In America. So we need you to go ahead and score.

Speaker 1 Are you guys done on this here?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I remember you killed the guy. It wasn't a lot better.
Yeah, we're down there.

Speaker 1 Concaf is down there. Who's down there? Concafa is down there.
Oh, oh, oh, oh,

Speaker 1 oh, oh, oh. Oh,

Speaker 1 but I am suffering from an injury right here. You see it? Yep.
I'm still suffering. Oh, no.
Yeah, from a brutal attack from going through a few weeks back in St. Louis.

Speaker 1 So I haven't been able to train as much because of this. So I am worried about my amount of minutes that I'm going to get down there.
But I want to let you know, our roster,

Speaker 1 that's what I heard last year. Well, we didn't really know anything about it.

Speaker 13 You made it to the quarterfinals first year. What do you want from us?

Speaker 4 How'd you guys do against Burnley?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. JJ played the whole game and we beat their ass.
I remember. I remember.
Do you remember that? I do remember.

Speaker 1 You and Zat Knight going at it in the back as if two Godzillas are battling on a soccer pitch. Might have been the biggest, most amount of meat bopping on a soccer pitch

Speaker 1 in the history. We're back to the house.
You and and Zach.

Speaker 4 No doubt.

Speaker 1 Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. Zach Knight will be back.
Yeah. He's going back.
Are you?

Speaker 1 You're not playing Donna? Am I what? Is Burnley going down? No, we're not. Because you guys are in the Premier League Donnie.
Yep, the Premier League focus locked in.

Speaker 1 Well, Concafe is going to get there someday, especially with this roster we have this year. Yeah, look out.

Speaker 1 Who we got?

Speaker 1 Rosters were supposed to be revealed today. I believe we did get a graphic.
I have no idea if it was uploaded. Yeah, because I did not afford it.
I believe it got sent to Gumpy, who is obviously

Speaker 1 one of the coaches of the team. He had two yellow cards last year.
I know.

Speaker 1 Is he allowed on the sideline? Yeah. Kidding me? Yeah, he beat the hell out of an old team.
Hey,

Speaker 1 if Coach gets a red card, do we have to play Donovan?

Speaker 13 No, no, he just gets sent back.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 13 JJ got you got sent out.

Speaker 1 JJ, I waited until after the game to get sent back and joke slammed an 80-year-old. Would have been surprised if Burnley was back.
Would have been surprised if Burnley was back at the stage.

Speaker 1 It might have been a mutual there. Might have been a mutual.
Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I think.
and also, it's a lot of time in Carrie. It's a lot of time in Carrie, North Carolina.
Beautiful play.

Speaker 1 Beautiful people.

Speaker 1 If we're being frank, yeah, but teams couldn't survive if you weren't. Yeah.
Like, it got to the one game a day thing. That was really what extended the stay.
That was really what extended the stay.

Speaker 1 Your team was nowhere near that. This is extended.
Your team was nowhere near that. Practice.
Your team was nowhere near. Our women's team was.
Our women's team was ready to. We were making a run.

Speaker 1 And then what?

Speaker 1 Then all I tried to play.

Speaker 1 They were in the final league.

Speaker 1 So were we? I cannot wait to get down to Kerry, North Carolina next week, as we were last year. I don't know about my minutes.
Bad injury age. Bad injury on my arm.
Well, that's an upper body, though.

Speaker 6 You can still take a few nice shots. You take a few cuts at it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but remember, this is connected to this. Connected to this.
I haven't been able to do this. And now I'm, you know, there's a lot of.

Speaker 6 PK, maybe you're the designated PK guy.

Speaker 1 That's all you do guys. We got those.

Speaker 6 I got a stratosphere last year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, what I realized when I was taking taking those free kicks and kicking one out of the stadium, which is how my soccer career potentially ended, ripping a hip flexor, kicking a free kick out of the stadium, out of the camera shot, maybe out of

Speaker 1 boom and eyeshot.

Speaker 1 Boom. Might be the way to go out, to be clear.
Now, I'm going to play if I can. I'm going to play if I can this upcoming week.

Speaker 1 But what I realized I was doing there, I was taking a free kick out of meat.

Speaker 1 You know, out of meats kind of rip. Like, that guy actually should be kicking that ball.
Or maybe Derek, with the way he he was hitting the ball Gordo Gerson. Yeah, Red Boots.

Speaker 1 I don't think Gordo or Red Boots will be taking any free kicks, but

Speaker 1 we're talking about the meat tier. So me blasting one out of the stadium, potentially

Speaker 1 you don't know who meet is?

Speaker 1 Meat beats your team's ass.

Speaker 1 You should maybe sign meet to Burnley.

Speaker 1 Hey, why don't you? Yeah, he gave you one of these. Hey, and you did a woo with one of those.

Speaker 13 I mean, saying you for a hot dog. Yeah, he did.

Speaker 1 I'm a big guy. I'm not an idiot.
I like to get out of the way. Well, he took you on a walk, bud.

Speaker 1 And you like a doubt.

Speaker 1 You should sign him to Burnley, actually.

Speaker 1 I said all of our transfers are just. Meet, you should talk to me.
We got somebody who'll talk to me. Text Tyler.

Speaker 1 See if he'll do it. From Dude Perfect.

Speaker 2 JJ said he's actually the lead scout this year.

Speaker 1 Well, that's good news. I assume he'll do great at it.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, let's get back to some sports. TST next week.
Our roster will be revealed at some point. AJ's on it.
AJ Hawk is Vibes Consultant. Wow.

Speaker 1 And our show will be there in Cary, North Carolina, which I don't even, I think you can get tickets to watch the tournament and then you can come hang with us.

Speaker 1 It's a good setup for us, but not a good setup for like audience. You remember? Because there's like a hill and the sun.
Yeah. Hot.
Very, very bright.

Speaker 1 So we'll be live from Kerry, North Carolina down at the soccer tournament. Fun time, fun atmosphere, fun tournament.
I think they do a great job. The facilities are beautiful.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's a great, gorgeous area. Down there for a long time, though.
Down there for a long time. We'll have our show down there for two days and hopefully it'll be a blast.

Speaker 1 Speaking of a blast, last night the Indiana Pacers moved to 3-1 against the New York Knicks in the Eastern Conference Finals.

Speaker 1 It was a celebratory evening for everybody in Indiana, except for those Knicks fans that traveled out here to watch their team play in the Eastern Conference Finals.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is one of those men. He joined us yesterday.
What we learned is...

Speaker 1 Smooth. Yeah.
Got a good jumper. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Six points a game in high school. You know, if you see somebody, ah, splash by the perfect rotation, elbow tight, forehead to hoop.
I mean, just absolutely perfect fundamentals.

Speaker 1 Six points a game, that's playing. Oh, yeah.
You know, if somebody averages like one and a half, one point, two points a game, something like that, they're coming in garbage time.

Speaker 1 They're taking a seat. Six points a game is we're getting some minutes.
Oh, yeah. We're getting some minutes on here.

Speaker 1 Now, we're not getting the rock in every situation, but we're fucking bopping the wood. Oh, yeah.
We're bopping the wood on defensive side.

Speaker 1 And if we're in a corner and they need one, bang, we're knocking it down that's this man out of freehold township high school ladies and gentlemen emmy award winner peter shragg

Speaker 1 shrags did you consider spell checking that tweet before you fired it out just a quick check what happened to charlie what i do wrong what's wrong here six point three is varistity

Speaker 14 varistity yes public school education jj there it is same here brother

Speaker 1 yeah varisti should have showed up with the blue line underneath or the red line under it but you capitalized it so then they probably thought it was a title.

Speaker 1 Man, I'll tell you what, smartphone, not smart enough in this situation, but our eyes, there's a trick, I think it's called something.

Speaker 1 If you just have all the letters of a word and the first letter's right and the last letter's right, your brain will normally piece it together, right? I think that is called something.

Speaker 1 I forget what it is. But Varisti here, I didn't even notice until you pointed it out, JJ.
Very JJ Watt move there. Very.
To see the Varisti. Yep, sorry.
See the Varisti.

Speaker 1 Shrags, I was impressed with your shooting ability. I was also impressed with the New York Knicks watching them live.
Now, obviously, obviously, the Pacers get a huge win.

Speaker 1 Tyrese Halliburton goes halal bananas. Okay.

Speaker 1 He certainly did that in front of Triple H, Jelly Roll, 50 Cent, and a litany of people that traveled out to Indianapolis, Indiana to watch this Eastern Conference final game, yourself included.

Speaker 1 What are your thoughts on the way out of there? And what is your thoughts on the series now after you getting a chance to experience that?

Speaker 14 First off, Incredible game day experience. I came in there as one of the few Knicks fans wearing the Knicks colors.

Speaker 14 And I've been in other buildings where you wear those colors and you get heckled the entire game. And these Pacers fans were awesome.
Everyone was respectful. And I'll tell you what I loved about it.

Speaker 14 30 minutes before the game, they're all in their seats. And you've got a VC levels just blasting.

Speaker 14 And like everyone's like ready to go. And it is a party.
And I'm like, oh, like this is not going to be one of those where the fans come trickling in with about 10 minutes left in the first quarter.

Speaker 14 And okay, I'm getting my seat. This is in L.A.
And in a lot of ways, I've seen that Delta Lounge at the garden.

Speaker 14 Third quarters, maybe it's not a full house to start the third everyone's still mingling at halftime oh no these pacers fans brought it and i felt like there was from no way no point did the knicks have control we were up one with i think about a minute left in the second quarter and i'm like all right let's go into halftime with a lead and then the pacers they got that lead and then pat

Speaker 14 You talked about it to start the show.

Speaker 14 I don't know if the viewers at home have a grasp on the promo promo that you did and just how much it changed the energy in the building because the knicks were coming and it was a down from like a 13-point game to a seven-point game they give you the mic you do this promo you cut this promo and you call out the celebrities and it seems like we're all loving it's all great and you tell those sobs to get on home and and it is it is such a moment in that building If you watch it to the end of this video, and I'm not going to make myself part of the story here, but you call out everybody.

Speaker 14 They cut to the crowd on this jumbo trunk, and it was my section. I'm wearing my dumb nicks hat, and I'm just sitting there giggling as you're taking everybody apart here.

Speaker 14 You pat, watch this freeze frame it right here. You could see me.
Wait, keep going, keep going.

Speaker 1 There he is right there.

Speaker 14 Love it. I'm like, this is amazing.
Now, I make a plea to you. You've got enough connections through the NBA, through WWE, through ESPN.

Speaker 14 Dude, if you showed up at the garden wearing like a TJ McConnell, like t-shirt jersey or something, like sick court side, keep this thing going, Pat, I think you would be A,

Speaker 14 embraced in a way that everyone would love it because here you are, you're going to pay it forward. We're going to come to your building now.

Speaker 14 And B, I think if you haven't been to a game at the garden yet, a playoff game, a do or die game, you will love it.

Speaker 14 And C, if your boys do win, which they might, you'll be on the court when the Pacers beat the Knicks in the garden.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, that'd be crazy. That would be crazy.
I, you know, first of all, appreciate you for coming to the city, hanging out with us yesterday, enjoying the game.

Speaker 1 We got some photos of you kind of going through the game last night and experiencing all the highs and lows sent to us because you were spotted by people that we knew. We love that you just came.

Speaker 1 Yep, there he is. You know, just bumped out

Speaker 1 and stared around a guy's ass. I think there was a chance that maybe some

Speaker 1 outfits around you weren't necessarily your favorites as well, but I appreciate you.

Speaker 14 There's a dude wearing Birkenstocks with no socks. It's like these toenails in my face.
I don't know where you people from Indiana get your foot.

Speaker 14 This guy shows up wearing Birkenstocks. That guy with the Pacers jacket, nice dude.
He was standing up the entire game.

Speaker 14 I'm staring at his,

Speaker 14 you know what, the entire game. And finally, I'm just like, I'm going to sit in the aisle on my hand.
Like, I'm just watching like this, but I respected him.

Speaker 1 Are you wearing a

Speaker 1 over your Nick shirt? What did you say?

Speaker 1 I can't tell from here. Is that a button-down that you're wearing?

Speaker 14 That is a flannel sweater, button-down type deal, which I was not even wearing a Nick shirt. I was just wearing regular generic clothing, Nick's hat, JJ.

Speaker 14 Reporting the brand, but didn't want to go overboard with it.

Speaker 14 But this dude with the pace, like I thought this was Detlev Shrem, or this was Vern Fleming with this old school Pacers, you know, windbreaker. He was wearing Birkenstocks, his pose all out.

Speaker 1 Nice heavy on the Birks. All right, bro.
You, you saw this guy because this guy was standing in front of you, and you were sitting down. You were just eyeing this guy.

Speaker 1 Okay, so I'm going to have to stand up.

Speaker 1 Hold on to his feet.

Speaker 1 This guy.

Speaker 1 This guy is in public like this. Unbelievable.
And then the Pacers start to do what they do.

Speaker 1 It was a magical night last night in Gainbridge. I was thankful to be there, lucky to be there.
We were appreciative of you coming out there.

Speaker 1 Going to MSG, that's a funny thought. I know how much we paid for our seats there at Gainbridge Fieldhouse.
I couldn't even fathom

Speaker 1 what Madison Square Garden would be for those tickets. You talked about all those connections.

Speaker 1 I think even those connections have to pay for these things from what I, from my understanding and how this is all going. I want to get Narcan on the line.

Speaker 1 Need two commercials to get out there to Madison Square Garden. But I thought about it last night, you know, especially after I was getting heckled and I heard a lot of people say like,

Speaker 1 this type of stuff wouldn't happen in New York.

Speaker 1 I think I saw Ben Stiller say wouldn't not happen, which I don't know if he meant wouldn't not happen as if it would happen happen because that's a double negative there. I don't know.

Speaker 1 Wouldn't happen maybe. And then he added the not in his tweet.
I was trying to figure out. I was trying to see if Ben Siller was actually like

Speaker 8 he definitely was.

Speaker 4 And someone also tweeted the video from last year of when the Knicks went up 2-0 at MSG.

Speaker 1 And they're chanting F.U. Reggie.
Yeah. And then Josh Hart comes over to clarify what they were saying.
They're saying, you, buddy, is what they're saying in that entire thing. And I love that.

Speaker 1 I enjoy that. That's what I think sports are.

Speaker 1 But I just, I found it awesome that that, like, there were new, because I said, send these sons of bitches homes with their ears ringing, is what I was talking about. Because I wanted it to be loud.

Speaker 1 Because I heard.

Speaker 14 I missed that part also.

Speaker 1 Everybody missed that part. Once I heard send these guys home.
I did say it. It's clearly.

Speaker 1 Did he say it? Pete, did he say that?

Speaker 14 I missed that part. I backed out once I heard SOB send them home.

Speaker 1 I was like, oh, see, everybody gets distracted. Everybody gets distracted.
He didn't turn this shit up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because I heard the third game, okay, which some people

Speaker 1 might have missed. Sure.

Speaker 1 Most Most people in the world. Nobody sleeps through it, right?

Speaker 1 No. Nobody

Speaker 1 threw it. Yeah.
Some people did, though, because the Indy 500 day was a long day.

Speaker 1 You know, it was the way it was: get in, get out there. And what Paulu did for the first time in the history of spanning your drivers wins the ND500.
There's a lot of emotions there.

Speaker 1 So some people weren't maybe there for that game and were supposed to be, certainly, paid for a seat there and didn't make it to it or whatever. I heard bad news out of Game Bridge, though.

Speaker 1 I heard at the end of the game, it was a little bit done. It wasn't.

Speaker 1 It wasn't as loud. So So I literally.

Speaker 14 They weren't vrooming.

Speaker 1 Shrikes was at both games. He obviously had much more fun on Sunday than he did on Tuesday.
He said it was, he said, I didn't expect it to be as docile as it was.

Speaker 1 Now, the pacers were up 20, basically, for the entirety, so maybe they got bored. Also, a long day.

Speaker 1 So whenever they hand me a microphone.

Speaker 14 Indy 500, everyone had their vroom vroom t-shirts on.

Speaker 1 Did you do the Indy 500?

Speaker 1 Shrikes, did you do the Indy 500?

Speaker 1 No, I didn't know. No.
Yeah, it would have been a long day. I wouldn't have been able to do it.
That would be a hell of a day, though. That's an Indianapolis staple day.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 you're racing and patient. Exactly.

Speaker 1 I just did some racing and snoozing and woke up, saw the game, watched the entirety minute from tip off all the way to the final, and then fell back asleep in that entire thing. But yeah, I missed it.

Speaker 1 So whenever they give me a microphone for the fourth quarter, it's like, oh, I heard.

Speaker 14 JJ's right. I've never seen that in any sporting event.
Forget just NBA basketball fourth quarter.

Speaker 14 I've never seen a fan. First, Mike Epps got one, was fine in the third quarter.
Then they give it to Pat McAfee in the fourth. I'm like, I've never seen this in the history of SpaceX.

Speaker 1 Wait, there were multiple mics? Mike Epps, yeah. You got Mike Epps in the building.
You're going to give him a microphone. Mike Epps, Indianapolis legend, by the way.

Speaker 4 And that was your angle, because Mike Epps was so, he did a long promo, like pro Indianapolis Pacers. Let's go, guys.
So your only angle was the New York Knicks fans that were there.

Speaker 1 Mike Epps actually, yeah, he did his promo.

Speaker 1 And I thought to myself, okay, I don't have to do one. That is literally, I thought they, I did not know I was getting a microphone last night.
I did did not know that. Come on.

Speaker 1 Legitimately did not know. Had done it in the past.
A year ago, I did one. It was like a regular season game, I think.
But it was like a full thing. Like I was there for Tyrese.

Speaker 1 Tyrese gave me the tickets. It was a full thing.
I'm like, okay, so I'm sitting here, got free tickets. I could do a little, you know, we're doing an entire thing.

Speaker 1 They hadn't shown you the whole night? No, not once. Oh, yeah.
You're sitting there fourth quarter like they haven't shown me the whole night. Third quarter, I was pumped.
Coming.

Speaker 1 Third quarter, I was like, oh, come on. Third quarter, I'm okay.
I literally thought it was not not going to happen. You're the king of the castle.

Speaker 1 Okay, I am not. There was a lot of people that played.

Speaker 14 JJ that showed on that Jumbotron. Every single Pacers player who's ever played from 1976 to 2025.

Speaker 14 It was awesome. I'm seeing, you know, Danny Granger is in the house.
Jermaine O'Neal's in the house. They also had like both Davis brothers.
I'm like,

Speaker 14 I'm like, yes. They're all there.

Speaker 14 Then they go and they do some of the indie legends, which is cool. And you had Mike Epps and John Mellenkamp.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 John Mellenkamp, amazing. Who was sitting there?

Speaker 14 Then you did get a Triple H who was with Pat, but they didn't show that.

Speaker 1 Exactly. You knew this shit was coming.
No, I thought for real they were not. I thought it was like,

Speaker 1 because once again, I cannot stress this enough.

Speaker 1 The price that I saw. I paid a lot for those tickets was a lot of fun.
Trey, you sitting in your seat, did you think to yourself, oh, they're saving him. They're saving him for the right moment.

Speaker 1 You had to know that they were.

Speaker 14 What was happening? I was so confused because I showed every, I mean, I'm talking literally like Detlev Schremp isn't here today, but let's show a picture of him, just every pacer you could imagine.

Speaker 14 And I'm like, are they going to show Pat? And then it was already like fourth quarter, JJ, five minutes left. I'm like, I guess they're not going to show.
I don't know what the deal is.

Speaker 14 Maybe he didn't want to be on camera. Maybe he wasn't.
And then this moment, I'm telling you, it was like a 10-point game. Pat does his thing.
And it's like, let me hear that. Boom, boom, boom.

Speaker 14 Let me hear you say Wayo.

Speaker 1 And the place goes,

Speaker 7 They brought in Mariano Rivera.

Speaker 1 They saved you till the bottom of the ninth. And they brought up their big arm and they said, get him in here.
It was an honor talk for the boys. You know, and I like this team.

Speaker 1 I literally knew 45 seconds before that I was talking though. I would just like that to be known.
That's a whole nother angle. Guy, good MC, great MC, brings the juice.

Speaker 14 You're right. Great MC.

Speaker 1 Great MC brings the dude. It's amazing.
He shows up with the microphone and literally like 30 seconds before that. I'm like, are you doing an interview with me? Like, how's this going to go?

Speaker 1 He goes, no, I'm giving you the microphone. I'm like, okay, shit.

Speaker 1 here we go we're off and running and then all of a sudden you know you gotta do what you gotta do i will say timothy chalamay being in indiana like you brought it up yesterday about him spending his memorial day traveling to indianapolis to watch his knicks play it was very evident that he is a passion like watching him react to the knicks was so cool especially because he's going to be the biggest actor on earth he's the next one right he is he's one of the next actors yeah for sure he's the next one so like him loving sports as much as he does awesome spike lee obviously been doing this for decades and decades and ben stiller i don't think i knew he was as big of a knicks fan as he is but he clearly is traveled all the way out to indianapolis multiple times to watch it so like i thought it was like cool to see them so yeah i mean me shouting them out was in a uh

Speaker 1 i'm telling you it was out of a place of like respect if you if you wouldn't have done that though and you would have been like smooching their ass like they would have booed you yeah well we gotta get and we can't be losing to fourth quarter shrinkers here yeah you know we can't be losing in front of strikes i'm telling you came out of nowhere had a good time.

Speaker 1 Happily we won.

Speaker 14 Shalomay, when he won, he won like the SAG After Award, and he goes up there and gives a speech. You saw this where he's like, this ain't a joke, this ain't a hobby.

Speaker 14 Like, I want to be the Michael Jordan of acting. And like, anyone else says that, you're like, all right, tool, like, get out of here.
It was like, it like completely resonated with everyone.

Speaker 14 It's like, finally, someone with some bravado who's coming in here. Stiller, to his credit, this guy lives on like the Knicks Twitter page.

Speaker 14 Like there's guys like I Hate Sean and Jonathan Macri and like Anthony MSG, like NYX Twitter people. And Stiller is on Twitter, like engaging with them all day, all night at 65.
So he's legit, man.

Speaker 1 Like, these guys are

Speaker 14 real deal. That said, if you came to the garden, it, I'm telling, it's, it's not, it's not just like next to him.

Speaker 1 Do you have an extra $300,000? I mean, I don't even know what that could be. I honestly, here we go to SeatGeek.
Let's look for some.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's going to be tough to read. Can we zoom in on that at all?

Speaker 1 $47,000? $69,000. not bad.
$69,000. $69,000.

Speaker 6 You got it. Is that for one? For one ticket?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
So those two right there,

Speaker 1 $47,000. That whole row is open?

Speaker 1 You can get it. They said, hey, listen, you can get it.
$69,000 for about 15 seats?

Speaker 14 I mean, you're... No, no.
You need to be court side.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You need to be court side.

Speaker 14 I don't need you seven throw. I need you court side.

Speaker 1 $47,000 a ticket over there. I mean, you've given away

Speaker 1 10 times that on a kick on College Game Day. Come on, that's it.
Damn, what Henry scores. Henry and Daniel, they deserve that.
They had great ticks. They had great kicks.

Speaker 4 You and Still are next to each other.

Speaker 1 When is that? This is Thursday? Yeah. Might have something going on Thursday, but if I can, I will certainly make it.

Speaker 1 Really? Yeah.

Speaker 8 I would love this so much.

Speaker 1 That was incredible. Shrikes, are you going?

Speaker 1 I'm going to go.

Speaker 1 Get back to Canada.

Speaker 1 Let's see where Shanks are.

Speaker 1 Let's get a little bit out a little bit. Zoom out.
Where are we at?

Speaker 1 How's that ESPN deal? Where are we at? Top check. I think he'd go, how about right behind there at 3742? That seems like good seats.

Speaker 1 We got a 730 up there at the top of the

Speaker 1 ticket.

Speaker 1 If I get a ticket out there, no doubt.

Speaker 1 $829 up there. You'll see it.
You'll see it, they say. You'll be in the building.

Speaker 1 You'll be in the building where it happens.

Speaker 1 A grand. Second to last row is a grand.
What are we doing? That's Master Square Garden, brother.

Speaker 14 That's me at the Raising Canes in Penn Station. That's it.
There it is.

Speaker 1 It's all the way out there. Well, just know this.
If I end up going, which

Speaker 1 would be very cool, I will say, very cool, I will certainly get a ticket for you, Shrikes. Okay, I can say that.

Speaker 14 You don't have to do that. I just need you in the building.
I just need the, I need you to experience it.

Speaker 1 And if you do want to invite me, I would gladly come.

Speaker 14 I'll sit wherever. But I really, this is bucket list stuff, dude.
The garden and elimination game for your team?

Speaker 1 Come on. Okay, so I would say we're going to spend 70 grand on those tickets.
We got 69 grand up air in front. Shrek's up air in a thousand.
You'll be sitting on the bottom.

Speaker 1 That's kind of how the Massive Square Garden thing is, too.

Speaker 1 They are like on top of you there. Shrek's, if I end up going, which is going to be a tall task, literally with my schedule, but if I'm able to make it, we will get you tickets.

Speaker 1 Let's talk a little bit about NFL. Jage brought up a Trey Hendrickson story a little bit ago.
Is there any movement on that in your eyes? And what do you think is the deadline for that whole thing?

Speaker 1 Because Rappaport tells us on a regular basis, I think this is going to get done.

Speaker 1 I think this is going to get done. He said he thinks that the Bengals end up paying Trey Hendrickson.
Do you agree with that?

Speaker 1 Or what are your kind of thoughts on how Trey Hendrickson ends up being an Indianapolis Colt this year?

Speaker 14 It's such a unique situation because he's approaching it so much differently than we've seen players in the past.

Speaker 14 He's a 30-year-old guy who met his wife in Cincinnati, had his kids in Cincinnati, and loves being a Bengal.

Speaker 14 And instead of him going through an agent or doing these cryptic Instagram messages, he straight up came on your show and then spoke with reporters and was just wearing his heart on his sleeve saying, this is what the market is paying these guys.

Speaker 14 And I am grossly underpaid. I think it's fair that I at least get some sort of bump.
And yet the Bengals entered this entire offseason with this label of being cheap and being small time.

Speaker 14 And they broke the bank on what they thought was their top two priorities. Two wide receivers under the age of 30, who everyone expected was going to be one or the other.

Speaker 14 In one fell swoop, they took care of both of them and they thought they had checked the box.

Speaker 14 Little did they realize that they would have this upset veteran player who happens to also be a wonderful member of the community and a great leader in the locker room who's like, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 10 I want mine also.

Speaker 14 Ian might have a different read on it than I do. I just know they went into this offseason with priority one being Jamar Chase, priority two being T.
Higgins.

Speaker 14 I'm not sure they saw this Trey Hendrickson thing approaching like it has. It's been a locomotive, and I don't know if it gets settled by the time we're at training camps.

Speaker 1 40 million a year is the number Miles Garrett's getting to play the same position in the same state in the same division.

Speaker 1 You know, so that happening, Haslam, I genuinely believe that when Haslam agrees to these deals, he does think about the other owners that can't keep up.

Speaker 1 And especially in the AFC North, in the entirety of it all, and Miles Garrett getting that deal done, there's somebody in Pittsburgh that's upset. Let's not ask his brother about it.

Speaker 4 No, don't do that.

Speaker 4 He'll be pissed.

Speaker 1 I'm not pissed.

Speaker 1 Do you have any updates?

Speaker 1 I have plenty of them.

Speaker 1 I have all the information. I just can't share it.
Oh, wow. Isn't that nice? Do you have all the information on AJ Hawk's best friend?

Speaker 1 Because I've seen some reports that people are pissed that Aaron Rodgers isn't at OTAs for the Pittsburgh Steelers. He's not even on the team.
On that note, Debut has a question for you, Shrink.

Speaker 3 Are there any people that are actually on teams that have not showed up to OTAs?

Speaker 3 I know Miles Garrett, he's in Tokyo or something like that, but he probably has his own off-season deal like a lot of vets do.

Speaker 3 But are there any other players, maybe with some contract things going on, that haven't showed up to OTAs that are surprising?

Speaker 14 What's interesting is, first of all, I'm just a total...

Speaker 14 Darius Butler made about 16 shots at a 16 yesterday from three, and there's a video of me making two. Darius Butler did not miss a three-point shot for the entire four-hour show.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Darius is unbelievable in basketball.
He is unbelievable.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1 You know, when they used to do like the NFL

Speaker 1 NBA players, NFL, NBA players conversation. Jock and Jock.

Speaker 14 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, that actually happened on MTV, I believe. And the four-point shot that was way up in the sky was obviously something.
Nobody ever mentions D-Butt as representing the NFL playing basketball.

Speaker 1 This guy still runs five-on-five

Speaker 1 still to this day. Legit on a regular basis.

Speaker 3 You're playing defense, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but you're practicing in here. You're practicing in here.
You get reps.

Speaker 1 I mean, the guy's unbelievable. Straight, you're right.
He's unbelievable at basketball.

Speaker 14 Incredible. And like a very generous passer, too.
Gorgeous passes. Now, look,

Speaker 14 I played in the Jersey Shore in a conference called A-North, which if you're from New Jersey, you know, that was like the conference in a giant public school conference.

Speaker 14 So when I averaged six points a game, that is a badge of honor. That is something I am proud of.
I started as a junior. Get this.
Then I come in as a senior as the captain.

Speaker 14 And my coach, Brian Gallup of the Freehold Township Patriots, about three games in. It's like, we got this sophomore dude who was dunking.

Speaker 14 And I probably played like two minutes a game my senior year, which was

Speaker 1 good leadership. Good leadership.

Speaker 14 I was the James Johnson of that team.

Speaker 1 I was talking to the other coaches, the other two coaches and I was there as a leader. So

Speaker 14 you ask about A North. I mean, that's Quentin Nelson played in A North.
And we had a bunch of dogs out of that conference. And, you know,

Speaker 14 CBA and Red Brank Regional, like real teams. So I am honored.
I am honored. So ask around.
It's good. Ask for the players who didn't show up.

Speaker 14 Kirk Cousins not being at practice was a little interesting because there's all these different little milestone markers during the offseason, and the Falcons could have moved on from Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 14 March 10th, he got a huge bonus. He collected that.
The draft, everyone's filling out their stuff. They didn't trade him.
And then right up here to OTAs, it's like, all right, well, there's some.

Speaker 14 And for Cousins, as Schefter reported, and Raheem Morris basically was being coy with reporters, like, I didn't see Kirk today. So I don't know

Speaker 14 where that heads.

Speaker 1 Jay just said, why would he be there? I mean, like, we kind of knew he wasn't going to be there, right?

Speaker 1 no kirk cousins leader of the team drake still showed up show leadership yeah you know i i was a two points per game senior year guy i showed up to all those practices i i wasn't making 30 40 million dollars jj no i don't know it's all but you could make the argument that it's literally probably worse I mean, it all depends on how the attitude is.

Speaker 10 If you were to show up, you're still in the city.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but like, yeah, because then it's

Speaker 1 taking the, yeah, who's taking the reps? How are we going to break this down? All these things. And there's conversations that don't even, I mean, that's my take on it.

Speaker 14 That's actually a really interesting perspective. And I love that we have that player perspective on that because to me, as an outsider, I raise my eyebrows.

Speaker 14 I said, well, that's interesting because they could have moved on from him. And then he's not there.

Speaker 14 And he's always been such a classy veteran and all along has been like, I'll do whatever is necessary. But I had not considered that where, hey, maybe if I'm there, it clouds things for Pennex.

Speaker 14 Let him be the dog. Let him be the A guy.
Let him run this entire three-week process and then I'll show up at training camp. That could be very well.
Yeah, basically.

Speaker 1 I think it might be one of those situations where it's like,

Speaker 1 we're not all going to play this little charade where I'm going to go out here and take reps from guys who actually need reps and who want to get reps. Like, we all know what's happening here.

Speaker 1 I'm not actually going to be like, they have their guy. They've made that clear.
Just go ahead. Go with it.
Yeah, Kirk can go build fires with the boys. Yeah.
Yeah. With the kids.
Coop. Coop.

Speaker 1 That's a good fire, Coop. Yep.
Kirk Cousins is the winner of that quarterback series in my eyes. And the wide receiver one and the other one that they did, which is really cool.

Speaker 1 Yeah, everyone came in that

Speaker 14 show. Everyone came into that.
Like, ah, Kirk's a little corny.

Speaker 14 He comes off not only as cool as hell but also like so dedicated and tough and then he did all that stuff in his in his house with his wife like where you're looking at him like memorizing plays like i thought to your point no one's brand or public image was built up more and increased and given a lot of goodwill than kirk cousins and that's the guy he is i think so he's gone from atlanta

Speaker 14 No, we don't know that. That's the thing.
It's like everyone assumes.

Speaker 1 He's got a no trade clause, too.

Speaker 14 Yeah.

Speaker 14 He controls where he goes with the no trade clause. Great call.

Speaker 14 And also, there was all these different milestones where they've already paid, like they're giving him millions just by being on the roster throughout this offseason, every single milestone.

Speaker 14 And he's still there. And to a man, Raheem Morris is like, he's going to be our number two.
He's going to be there.

Speaker 14 And that's what we plan on having as our backup in this room. Now, as long as Pittsburgh doesn't have a quarterback, I'll always keep my eyes open on that.

Speaker 14 And I know that just because they never actually overlapped, the fact that Arthur Smith came from Atlanta and knows Terry Fonteno and knows Arthur Blank and knows what those guys, and like they didn't end on horrible relations.

Speaker 14 To me, there's still a connection there. And then, oh, by the way, Mike Tomlins' best friend in the league is probably Raheem Morris.

Speaker 14 So to me, there's always an open line of dialogue, which is the most important thing. These people know each other that if Rogers pulls the shoot or does something, who knows?

Speaker 14 TJ Watts quarterback could be Kirk Cousins if you're just looking to fill the seats on the carousel.

Speaker 1 Pulls the shoot? Does that mean retire?

Speaker 14 Yeah, I don't know. I I made that up.
I don't know what that even means. Pulls the shoot.

Speaker 1 I think that's pretty good. I found it great.
Yeah, because, like, wow,

Speaker 1 and then you pull the shoot. Yeah, and then you just kind of

Speaker 1 free fall.

Speaker 1 It made your point. I think it was a good, a good line because it definitely made it.

Speaker 14 Q the Avici levels. Oh!

Speaker 1 I love that.

Speaker 1 What was the song that played immediately after I spoke?

Speaker 14 Let me say Wayow.

Speaker 14 Like, guy in the Birkenstocks lost his mind when they played that song.

Speaker 14 7:30 at night. You've got your best Vern Fleming

Speaker 14 windbreaker on. What shoes am I going to wear? Socks? Get them out of here.
Give me the Birkenstocks.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I want to be comfortable out there. Might have to go walk a trail.
Might have to eat some granola. Maybe choose some bark.
Yeah, maybe choose some bark. You never know.

Speaker 1 You never know what you're going to have to do.

Speaker 14 By the way, cool as hell, nice guy. Tatted up, the whole thing.

Speaker 10 I liked him.

Speaker 14 Of course. Just staring at his feet the entire game.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was better than viewing a coron on with Patriots getting a big top win over the New York Knicks. You talk about the Pittsburgh Steelers maybe with Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 1 The story was if the Cleveland Browns don't take a quarterback at number two, they're going to trade for Kirk Cousins. Now, they have a lot of quarterbacks on their roster.
Go ahead, Ty.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Shrikes, now there's rumors floating around that there's There's no way that the Browns are going to go into maybe even camp or start the season with the four guys they have.

Speaker 2 Is there any chance that another team is interested in one of their quarterbacks? And if they were to trade someone, like, are we strictly talking either Joe Flacco or Kenny Pickett here?

Speaker 2 Like, is there any chance that either one of the guys they drafted this year could potentially be moved before the season?

Speaker 14 I just don't. What's the value on a Dylan Gabriel? No one knows, you know, what he is.
And if they wanted him, they could have drafted him in the first two rounds.

Speaker 14 So I would take Dylan Gabriel off of that. Shador, same thing.
The issue becomes with Flacco, he was a free agent, and Stefanski knows him. And I do value the personal relationships here.

Speaker 14 And in this case, you know, Flacco had options. Stefansky said, you were comeback player of the year.
You took us to the playoffs two years ago. Like, come back to Cleveland.

Speaker 14 I would be really hard-pressed to think after they lured Flacco back to Cleveland, after he already signed with Indy last year for a year and came out, that he would then be told, all right, sorry, we're getting, we're trading you.

Speaker 14 That'd be really rough on him. Pickett might just be the odd man out just based on how it all went down.
They traded for him, but it was more, hey, we've already got Flacco.

Speaker 14 We don't know what we're going to do with the young guys. We'll take Kenny Pickett.

Speaker 14 Now, that said, if Kenny Pickett lights it up in the next few weeks and demands the room and does all that stuff, who knows? But to me, if you're looking at those four guys, who's the odd man out?

Speaker 14 I would just think based on relationships, value, and what they can maybe get in return, I would think Kenny Pickett would be the odd man out of those four.

Speaker 1 Fascinating. What is going to happen with Shador and Dylan Gabriel?

Speaker 1 That is not talked about right now. No.
At all. That's kind of gotten quiet.
That's good, right? Just letting people do their job, kind of of work, do their thing. Did we expect that?

Speaker 1 I don't think I expected that.

Speaker 6 Wait till preseason.

Speaker 14 I think training camp will be a real testing ground for all these guys.

Speaker 14 And with Shador's case, I remember covering the Seattle Seahawks back in 2012 when they had a fellow Wisconsin Badger, albeit for just one year, but a fellow Wisconsin Badger showed up and there was already the late Trevoris Jackson who could play.

Speaker 14 And they already had Matt Flynn, who just had signed a massive free agent contract to AJ Knowswell. And Russell Wilson showed up the day he got there.

Speaker 14 And by the time it was the second week of preseason, covering that team, being in Seattle, no one could even deny that Russell was the best player in that room.

Speaker 14 And even the quarterbacks who were the veterans, the late Tavares Jackson and, of course, Matt Flynn, like they had to concede that, yeah, this guy's amazing. Like he's a dime.
That was 2012.

Speaker 14 That was 13 years ago. Shador is going to probably have to have that kind of impact where it becomes undeniable to anybody.

Speaker 14 And that Kevin Stefansky, the head coach, is like, yes, the fourth quarterback in this room, when we stack it as far as chronological order goes, signing Joe, trading for Kenny, drafting Dylan, the fourth quarterback is by far the best guy and gives us the best option to win week one.

Speaker 14 That is an uphill battle that he can do because none of these guys are bona fide number ones by any means, but

Speaker 14 it is an uphill battle for him as a day three draft pick to be the starting quarterback week one. And I think a lot of people are just opening the door like, hey, that could happen.

Speaker 14 It's an open competition. It's never really a true true open competition because guys come in at different points on the roster.

Speaker 14 And on the depth chart, today he did take reps as the fourth quarterback taking reps.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's fifth round draft pick. And Dylan Gabriel obviously drafted ahead of him in this particular draft.
So that obviously builds up an animosity.

Speaker 1 I don't want to say animosity, but a conversation or controversy just amongst those two, let alone the guy that led the Cleveland Browns to the playoffs two years ago in Joe Flacco being back.

Speaker 1 And Kenny Pickett, who touched the ball last in the last Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 Good question. Kenny Pickett.

Speaker 1 So all through that quarterback controversy will obviously be a lot of chatter and a lot of conversation, but it's all because Deshaun Watson got $230 million there to try to find anything he possibly can.

Speaker 1 Correct. And Shador's slide to the fifth round.
We'll see if it was warranted or justified, or if maybe he's able to become a superstar. But what about Dylan Gabriel? Third-round pick.

Speaker 1 A lot more third-round picks have gone on to start earlier than fifth-round picks.

Speaker 14 Hey, and clearly, they wanted Dylan Gabriel on their team. They wouldn't have drafted him in the third round.
They took a quarterback before Shador Sanders in this draft, and that was Dylan Gabriel.

Speaker 14 And everyone dismissing him because of what they all thought was going to happen going into the draft.

Speaker 14 Granted, Shador might have had a bigger spotlight, but like they drafted Dylan Gabriel over Shador Sanders. So let's not cheat Dylan Gabriel out of that opportunity to win that job as well.

Speaker 1 Yeah, absolutely. Dylan Gabriel, big 10 champ.
Dylan Gabriel goes over to Oregon and does phenomenal things.

Speaker 1 Now they get the doors blown off them in the Rose Bowl, which I think is what a lot of people remember of that Oregon team. But that Ohio State team was going to beat anybody on that particular day.

Speaker 1 That's right. I do believe AJ has a question for you, Shrek's.

Speaker 6 Yeah, Shrek, what about Jalen Ramsey? I know McDaniels came out and said there's nothing that's that's really happened where does he play next year do you think

Speaker 14 yeah mcdaniel was asked three questions on it back to back to back today and usually mike is so verbose and will go on a real tangent and actually speaks to the reporters like human beings and gives them answers and today he went to like the company line was like i'm only talking about guys who are here so that tells me that they really are at a standstill there now the issue with jalen ramsey aj is that he makes 20 million dollars a year so someone is going to have to take at least some of that you know a big bulk of that and the dolphins are not going to trade him 30 cents on the dollar.

Speaker 14 So everyone just assumes the Rams, because he played there.

Speaker 14 I don't get the feeling the Rams are banging down the doors for the Miami Dolphins to trade them Jalen Ramsey so they can pay him $16, $17 million this year as a corner.

Speaker 14 I think there is probably a better chance he is traded than him being there on the team, but I don't have a line or a list of teams that makes sense at the moment just because of the salary and also because of this time of year.

Speaker 14 Usually it'll heat up more towards training camp.

Speaker 1 Let's go to one half of the hammer. Don.
Cowboys, live from Hammer. Don.

Speaker 7 thank you jade

Speaker 1 i'm trying man that is hard that you guys are good

Speaker 1 i grew up with it that's ap tone back there

Speaker 1 i forgot about that that's kind of cool what's that ap hey you have a vote i gotta see your final ballots by the way i never saw them he's posted them publicly we have we believe in transparency around here

Speaker 1 I gotta go check those. We consulted.
The truth. Yeah, didn't he talk to you about it? Yeah, no, he did.
And where'd he put TJ? I don't remember. Third, I think.
Oh, man.

Speaker 7 I believe it was second.

Speaker 1 Okay, of course. Tom, you have a question for Shregs?

Speaker 7 Van Ginki was first.

Speaker 1 Van Ginky had a great season. Yeah, Shreggs.

Speaker 7 Buffalo Bills, have we heard anything about James Cook? I know we talked earlier about OTA guys who weren't there. What's his situation? Because I believe he's looking for 20 million.

Speaker 14 Yeah, I don't know if it's 20, but it's significantly more than what I think the Bills are looking to extend him with this offseason. So there's going to have to be some

Speaker 14 middle ground there.

Speaker 14 But when all these different running backs, whether it be Saquon or Derrick Henry, got their little bumps in pay here and they were paid more than what they came in last year as free agents, I think James Cook and his agent probably looked at that and said, okay, well, let's take care of an aspiring or an ascending guy who was the best player on the field for them in a lot of games, and especially during the Chiefs when he had that insane stretch across the goal line.

Speaker 14 But that Brandon Bean's job this offseason was to extend a lot of different guys.

Speaker 14 And, you know, I think they want to take care of James Cook, but not at the numbers that have been tossed around at the moment.

Speaker 1 James Cook, let

Speaker 1 James Cook

Speaker 1 was kind of their mantra. He sees Saquon Barkley sign a massive deal.
He thinks to himself, excuse me, what's going on around here? I need my first big payday. 20 touchdowns.
Yeah, why not?

Speaker 1 Good luck. Random Beans got to get that figured out.
He paid a lot of people. Yeah.
They're in the transition process. I think James Cook is a great player.
I hope they get it figured out.

Speaker 1 That team could go, especially in front of this new bison. That's right.
They got new bison outside the stadium. Have you heard about this? No, I like to hear about this.

Speaker 1 Okay, they're building a new stadium up there in Buffalo. It's going to be beautiful.
It's going to be gorgeous. What a great fan base.
Will it be done?

Speaker 1 Probably not. Okay.
Construction. Yep.
Toyota. Always going to be delayed.
That's how it goes. Always going to be delayed.
There's going to be things, especially with the weather up there.

Speaker 1 I don't know how they get anything in compliance.

Speaker 2 Yeah, open-air stadium. Probably can't do too much work.

Speaker 1 Saw the final beam, though. Final beam.
That's a big day. Yeah, that is a big day.
Have you seen the bison up front? No, I need to hear about this. So you know what a bison is?

Speaker 1 I sure do eat them all the time. Do you know what a buffalo? You do eat them because they're healthy.
Yep. Do you know what a buffalo looks like? I sure do.
What are the differences? I don't know.

Speaker 1 Okay, so you you don't understand. I mean, I know.

Speaker 1 You asked if I knew what a buffalo looks like. I do.
What does it look like then? The University of Colorado mascot, Ralphie. No, so that's actually a bison.
Son of a bitch. Yeah, that is not a.

Speaker 1 Are you kidding me? Yeah, that's illegal. Yeah, that is a bison.
That's illegal. That's like the buffalo.
That's advertising. Thank you.
Yeah, so they're going to have bison, actually.

Speaker 1 Water buffaloes have these things here. They have these things here off their heads.
Well, that's a water buffalo. Bingo.
What's a regular buffalo?

Speaker 1 Good question. That's just what it is.
Yeah, it's a bison. Everything we've been calling a buffalo is actually a buffalo.

Speaker 1 North Dakota State should take Colorado's mascot to the North Dakota State is the bison. Yeah,

Speaker 1 what the hell should be running around Folsom Field? For a buffalo? Yeah. One of these things.
Yeah, that's a water buffalo. They're not called the water buffaloes.
That's what a buffalo is.

Speaker 1 A buffalo is a buffalo. There's no regular buffalo.
No, it's a bison. Everything we've thought has been a buffalo has been a bison our entire thing.
Are you sure?

Speaker 1 Yes, remember we did this entire thing. Yep.
Because whenever they put the new statues, anyways, there's new statues coming in front of the Buffalo Bill.

Speaker 1 They're bisons, which is what the Colorado Buffaloes have. So the Buffalo Bill on the helmet is a bison.
Is a bison. They play a Buffalo bison.
But they're technically.

Speaker 1 That's fine because they don't call themselves the Buffalo Buffaloes. Yeah, they're just folks.
So it's fine.

Speaker 1 Anyways, they're going to have bisons. How tall are these things going to be off for? About 18 feet, I believe.
How many of them? Three.

Speaker 1 Okay. It's that high.
We have 12 bulls outside of NRG Stadium in Houston. Bull versus bison.
How big is the bull? Very large. How big? Do you know the feet? I don't know.

Speaker 1 Does it feel like it's big enough?

Speaker 1 It's big.

Speaker 7 Can you walk between its legs?

Speaker 1 You could walk under it, yeah. Can you hop on its back? Ride it like a bucking bull.
You'd have to climb. But you could get upper.
I would say you could. Two J.J.
Watts could toss up her.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So it's about 12 feet? I would say 12 feet is probably accurate. No, I think it's a little taller than 12 feet.
You think you have to? It's on a pedestal. It's on a pedestal.

Speaker 1 Is it the chest or the head? I think the top of the head is probably 20 feet. So that seems like a big ass.
That's a big. That's a big ass bullet.
On a pedestal. On a pedestal.

Speaker 1 The pedestal, I am counting the pedestal. Yeah, because that's the base of the trophy.
Correct. So do people take pictures in front of it? They do.

Speaker 1 See, this is the research that Buffalo needed to do for their bison on the ball. Why do they have these things? Everybody thinks that the bison is going to be too small.

Speaker 1 Because we don't have a rendering? We have renderings of everything in today's world. The renderings have them very large.

Speaker 1 And then the real size came out, and everybody's like, wait a minute, we've got baby-ass bison. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Show continues. Yeah, then the mammoths are going to have to put some mammoths outside.

Speaker 1 That's a sick. Great recommendation, by the way.
Thank you. We did a little good brainstorming.
We're going to end here on ESPN. We'll continue digitally.
The show stinks. We know that.

Speaker 1 You don't have to tell us. But if you'd like to continue to watch, we'll be on YouTube, ESPN Plus, Disney Plus, and TikTok Live.
We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living.

Speaker 1 The Indiana Pacers are one win away from going to the NBA Finals. It's going to be a tough one over there in Madison Square Garden.
This thing seems tough. Their fans are dedicated and loyal.

Speaker 1 What source? The Indiana Pacer faithful. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice that might change their life, including Ben Stiller.
We'll see you tomorrow. Goodbye.
All right, we nailed it.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's get back. I was just trying to fill their straits.
I was just trying to fill there. Because we had a heart out.
So I went to the Bison talk. You just.
There's no way that's correct.

Speaker 1 All right. That's not brand new.
Somebody filled me. I mean, I don't, that's insane.

Speaker 1 We had a tough day. We did it live on the air.
Really? Yeah. That's the only reason why I know this.
And like, did somebody from the University of Colorado reach out and say, like, this is?

Speaker 1 Yeah, they did, actually. You're right.
They did. They called our show because what we did in a brainstorm session live on air and they said you guys really

Speaker 1 gotta get to the bottom

Speaker 1 University of Colorado somebody out there I mean Deion's on socials everywhere he's gonna see look you gotta see this look brother we need the buffalo answer that's bison plains bison bison bison bison i agree that looks exactly like ralphie yeah woods bison bison the buffalo's got the horns that's what they are wow got a cape buffalo and water buffalo two very different things there yeah similar horns though just one's a little bit more worn in.

Speaker 1 So, how? A little bit more fresh. The water buffalo have fresher horns.
I'm baffled right now at how they have gotten away with this for 100 years.

Speaker 5 You're allowed to call a bison a buffalo. There's no crime against it.
No one's going to fight you over it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no one's going to arrest you. That's not technically correct.
You're just wrong.

Speaker 3 2025. Just call it anything.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 it'd be like the New Orleans pelicans having a toucan as their mascot. Yeah, but calling themselves a pelican.
Yeah, but calling themselves a pelican.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, pretty disrespectful, I guess, to bison, I think, kind of through this whole thing.

Speaker 1 I guess that's really at the core of what I'm really upset on behalf and you remember how you started this whole thing i eat them every day that's what you're eating brother you're eating a buffalo oh man my son eats them too he loves loves bison

Speaker 1 uh oh probably take i mean it doesn't matter it's very good for you but maybe

Speaker 1 i'm i'm more i've i've met ralphie i've visited the university of colorado i feel like i was lied to you were i don't think they know his name's not even ralphie

Speaker 1 oh shit you're right i don't know if it's a he either oh we don't know anything we don't know anything yeah well we do we do actually, because we told you this.

Speaker 1 I feel like you got to get Ben Stiller on the show. Random thought.
I don't know if that's going to happen. It has to happen.

Speaker 1 He needs to clarify his tweet. And I need to know if he's actually upset or not.
I don't think he's.

Speaker 14 Ben Stiller on.

Speaker 1 He needs to clarify.

Speaker 1 I was reading the tweet. I was literally reading it.

Speaker 1 Connor has cinematic questions as well, I do believe. Yeah, gripes.
Yeah, but Ben Stiller has created some bangers throughout my life, which is why when I saw him, I was like, this is pretty sweet.

Speaker 1 And then I was reading his tweets. I'm like, Ben Stiller's not actually.

Speaker 2 I personally didn't think.

Speaker 1 Bro, he's John Stiller. I didn't think he was.
Severance.

Speaker 1 He woke him on the show, I believe.

Speaker 14 Severance is him. Escape from, what is it, Anomora or whatever?

Speaker 1 That was a good one. Dan Amora.

Speaker 14 He's not a silly guy necessarily. He's a director.
Okay. He's not a bad guy.

Speaker 1 He's not an athlete either, Pat. He's not an athlete.

Speaker 6 He doesn't know how to go back and forth with athletes like you do.

Speaker 14 He's not Hollywood kid.

Speaker 9 He's a little different. What?

Speaker 1 Okay. We appreciate the hell out of you, Straights.
I love you guys. See you soon.
You're the man. Ladies and grandfather Schrager.

Speaker 1 He's got to do a sports center in two minutes. Great guy.
He's got to fix that hair. Yeah.
Has a hat on. Yeah.
Can't have to tie a tie.

Speaker 2 Cap on sports center.

Speaker 1 Can't be doing that at all. No.
Okay, let's get to a break. On the other side, we have a national champion joining us.

Speaker 1 We have a man from a family of lacrosse players joining us that we just learned about recently. Should know about.
Dog.

Speaker 1 CJ Cursed is his name. JJ.
Do you know him? I do now.

Speaker 1 He's from a great family. Lacrosse players.

Speaker 1 That is acting. Well done.
Big Cursed. What he was able to do with the stick.
Man. And then second, big cursed.
Yep. Nasty myths.
Third, big cursed.

Speaker 4 Three cursed.

Speaker 1 Great point. So many of them.
Like the Elias family.

Speaker 1 No, they're different.

Speaker 4 They didn't grow up in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 Yeah. The cursed are actually from...

Speaker 1 Not Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 I think Jersey. Somebody here should have done research on this cursed family.
We're going to do that right now, quickly. We're going to do that right now, quickly.
Yep. Absolute dog.

Speaker 1 The cursed family, from what we've been told from other people we know running the lacrosse family.

Speaker 1 I got a lot of questions, so perfect.

Speaker 1 Good family represent lacrosse, is what I'm being told.

Speaker 1 What I'm being told is good family chit-chat about lacrosse.

Speaker 1 Just had one of the greatest years in the history of college lacrosse, tied the goal scoring record in the history of college lacrosse, and won a national championship. This guy had six goals.

Speaker 1 What was it? How many goals?

Speaker 4 Yeah, six goals to tie the record at 82. Also, he has the most points ever in a career, has the most goals ever in a career.
And yes, I did remember he is, they are from New Jersey.

Speaker 1 And he's six goals in the national championship. I did, I saw this highlight reel the other day.
I was

Speaker 1 a freight trainer.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he's a dog.

Speaker 1 CJ Kirsten. Cannot wait to talk to him on the other side.
Congrats to Cornell. We continue to be a lacrosse, a pro-lacrosse show.
Absolutely. A pro-LaCro

Speaker 1 show. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Go, pro, lacro

Speaker 1 show.

Speaker 1 Just like we've been saying this entire time. Exactly.
Did you ever play lacrosse out there in Wisconsin? No. It started to pick up right near the end.

Speaker 1 In Wisconsin, it was hockey was still the winner. You were a hockey player, right? Yes.
Did you hear what the Oilers did to the stars last night? I did. Oh,

Speaker 1 it's over. It's over for Texas hockey.

Speaker 13 Not over. We'll win game five, then we'll see what happens after that.
But we ain't dead yet.

Speaker 1 We ain't dead yet. They're playing La Bamba out there.

Speaker 13 You don't know what happens with the Oilers. The Oilers get very hot and they get very cold.
You just got to get them once.

Speaker 1 Congrats to the Oilers. 4-1 win over the Dallas Stars last night.
Obviously, we were paying attention to the Pacers Knicks game because we were actually there. Got a chance to catch the highlights.

Speaker 1 It was only 2-1 and then two empty netters. Yeah.
So score a little bit different than than how the game actually went.

Speaker 1 But 4-1, still a massive win for the Oilers as they move 3-1 against the Dallas Stars. And it does feel like we're heading towards

Speaker 4 a potential rematch. Yeah, all four series, 3-1,

Speaker 1 both in the NBA and both in the NHL. All right, let's get to a break on the other side.
We've got a national champion joining us. We can't wait to talk to him, learn about him and his family.

Speaker 1 Can't wait to learn about La Crosse more.

Speaker 1 I've become an NLL guy.

Speaker 6 Yeah? The kids all know about it. The kids all know Curse, believe me.

Speaker 15 They all love watching him.

Speaker 1 Oh, really? The La Crosse kids?

Speaker 6 You're in touch with my son all of his friends mention they talk about him yeah for sure

Speaker 1 he's got a lacro family the hawks

Speaker 1 yeah the hawks do lacrosse yeah i don't doubt that at all i bet they beat the shit out of people with those sticks they do yes well when a girls came you're not allowed to right uh no yeah girls is stupid they should let him play like the boys i legit right i was watching my daughter my daughter plays and she wants to wear pads and hit like everybody else but they don't the girls the rules are crazy it's vastly different right it's like a vastly different game

Speaker 1 because i was watching i was watching the college because the the college girls was happening over the last couple of weeks as well. North Carolina.
Congrats to UNC.

Speaker 1 So I was watching it, and it was like, oh, this is a lot different. And there wasn't, it was.
It's like flag football versus real football. Well, we'll get into that too.

Speaker 1 Jage got some thoughts on that. Jade's got some flag football thoughts, AJ.
Uh-oh.

Speaker 6 Thank you. What position do you want to play, Jage?

Speaker 1 He wants to play actual football.

Speaker 1 I can't hit anybody. It doesn't matter.
I think that's his whole thing. We'll talk about that.
We'll talk lacrosse. Be a friend.
Tell your friend something nice about changing your life. Take Fai.

Speaker 1 WOAL.

Speaker 1 Sports. Sports.
That threw me off, D-Buck. What did I do?

Speaker 1 I thought I was about to go. I was all COVID right now.
Oh, shit. You look like Governor Jeff Landry right now.
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 I've been Deep Bros.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 I thought that was the, and then I'll get it. Maybe R4.
Maybe R4. Maybe R4.
Excuse me. The hair looks phenomenal.
It's blown.

Speaker 1 Wow. I'm happy.
Why you didn't want that on TV? You said, I'm not ready to to date. Oh, because you with new hairstyles does become a thing.
You remember when he did the

Speaker 1 hat hair. I mean, this was just on, but yeah, it is

Speaker 1 pushback. What was your tweet after the debut of a new hair? You ever wonder if anybody will notice when you change your hairstyle?

Speaker 1 They do notice, I believe, is what you think. A lot of people noticed.
Yeah, what was it? Super Bowl. That was the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 It was the Super Bowl. Yeah, this hair.
Phenomenal. Yeah, thanks.
You're looking like a superhero. Working on it.

Speaker 1 I appreciate it. Are you going to let it grow long? I'm trying.
I'm going to see. Yeah.
I mean, we got obviously on air in the fall, so I got to see if it looks

Speaker 1 time. He's commentating games, full slate, CBS, 3-2 overall booth.

Speaker 1 Congratulations, dude. Yeah, Ion Eagle is obviously a pillar of sports commentary, but also very good at his gig.
I think he's going to set you up to be fantastic. You wanted to call games? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, I got the taste of it in that Christmas Day game, Chief Steelers, and being in the stadium, being around it, Ion Eagle is literally one of the best in the business. He's incredible.

Speaker 1 He's going to make me look good so you're excited this hair is good for the booth yes it is perfect this hair is very good for the booth we'll get back to that after uh our conversation with a man who is recently a national champion recently a record breaker and our lacrosse source says

Speaker 1 are telling us that this guy is about to be

Speaker 1 very important call i do not need to answer well i do not need to answer people are making calls trying to get me into madison square garden now you know like that is what happens whenever this takes place it's like i don't even know if it's possible.

Speaker 1 It's possible, isn't it? Don't you think it is? I'm like, I don't know. A lot of calls, I appreciate everybody doing that.

Speaker 1 This man who's about to join us, from what we were being told by our source, says

Speaker 1 in the lacrosse world, is going to be,

Speaker 1 I forget the number. The

Speaker 4 fifth ever number one pick?

Speaker 1 In PLO and the NLO. Fifth time ever, where it would be the number one pick.

Speaker 1 This guy's style of lacrosse could fit in box lacrosse and field lacrosse, I believe, is the the two different styles of lacrosse. PLL, Paul Rabel, big field, big field.
They're running a lot.

Speaker 1 College lacrosse, same thing. NLL, Chase Fraser.
Yeah. Chase, a lot of this, a lot of this,

Speaker 1 a lot of, feels like, a lot of that, a lot of brawling.

Speaker 1 This guy's good for both because he's an absolute dog, a freight train, if you will, who has the skills that could only come from a family of lacrosse players that have committed their entire lives to the sport.

Speaker 1 And he has been repaid mightily. Gonna win the Tawarathon.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Has won the national championship. Ladies and gentlemen, out of Cornell, CJ Curse.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. How are you doing, bro?

Speaker 15 That's Joe. How are we doing? Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 Hey, how are you doing, man?

Speaker 1 Where are you headed right now?

Speaker 1 And is that the trophy? How's it been? Has it been glued to your side since the moment you won it?

Speaker 15 Yep, there we go. Yeah, we're on the way to D.C.
for the Tuarton ceremony with my buddy Walker Wallace, All-American Defender.

Speaker 1 Devin Walker! Walker Wallace!

Speaker 1 Love that. Yeah, we're having a blast.

Speaker 1 How's it been as a national champion?

Speaker 1 I've been told from my source cities close to the Cornell camp that you guys have enjoyed this win and that you are kind of an old school style team where obviously a lot of work, a lot of grit, a lot of time and energy was spent into winning this national championship, not only for Cornell, but the Ivory League, you know, after the ACC kind of was running rampant with the entire thing.

Speaker 1 And then you guys enjoyed the hell out of it and had good team camaraderie around it. How has it been as a national champion, CJ? Is it everything that you would hope for it to be?

Speaker 15 Yeah, it's been incredible. I mean, we, Cornell alone hasn't done it in over 50 years.

Speaker 15 And, you know, to bring the trophy back and, you know, all the support and just seeing everyone over the past couple of days and knowing how much work everyone's put into it.

Speaker 15 It's an incredible feeling. And it's special being able to hold this thing.
It's a a dream come true.

Speaker 1 You had six goals in the national championship that led to you breaking numerous records or even tying some records that nobody thought were ever going to be broken. Absolute dog.

Speaker 1 And also, as we learned your story and your family story, your mom's an absolute beast, huh? The Mama Curse is an absolute beast over there. Can you talk about her a little bit?

Speaker 1 And can you talk about your family being a lacrosse, a royal family in La Crosse as a whole?

Speaker 15 Yeah, no, my mom's the best. She's our rock.
She's, um, She's been there, supported us every step of the way, incredible motivator.

Speaker 15 And, you know, all my brothers as well, you know, Connor, Colin, Cole, Caden,

Speaker 15 being able to give them a hug after the game was an incredible feeling. And, you know, I wouldn't be here without them.
So I'm super thankful for all them and all the support they've...

Speaker 15 they've given me over the years.

Speaker 1 So your family fully committed to lacrosse? Did you guys play any other sports? And when did you figure out like, oh, this is the one that Connor, Cole, Caden, and CJ and

Speaker 1 right there. I was so close.
Yeah. Anyways, when did you guys decide that lacrosse was going to be the sport that your entire family was going to dominate?

Speaker 15 Yeah, no, we grew up playing everything, everything you can imagine. And then, you know, our dad played in college, played at Rutgers,

Speaker 15 and then he coached us when we were little. And, you know, all our buddies always loved lacrosse.
And, you know, when we were younger, that's what. That's what we love doing.

Speaker 15 And, you know, that's kind of what we

Speaker 1 gravitated towards when we were were a little kid so um you know that's that's just what we love and um yeah we we always play lacrosse rest in peace to your father he's looking down watching you guys dominate the sport and i assume he's incredibly proud and happy with what the boys have accomplished your brother plays at rutters i do believe currently so obviously the family is being represented in the sport mightily go ahead aj Yeah, CJ, can you take us back to those, I know you guys had some battles in the backyard I've read about where you guys would just go beat the hell out of each other with those lacrosse sticks and everything.

Speaker 6 What was that like and how did that kind of propel you into the trajectory you're on? Obviously number one pick to the water dogs, everything that you've just done.

Speaker 6 Like how, when you look back, did that prepare you for everything going on?

Speaker 15 Yeah, 100%. I mean, growing up, having, you know, my older brothers never take it easy on me, you know, and then having Caden as my younger brother and trying to, you know, be hard on him.

Speaker 15 You know, that's what motivated me to get here.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's the reason why I'm here, you know, playing with them and especially being that little kid, dreaming about playing on a big stage like this and, you know, just competing with them and seeing how hard they worked you know and I wanted to be just like them and you know super thankful that you know they taught me everything they know and that's the reason why why I'm here so you know I love them to death for everything that they've given me I love that you continue to compete while getting your ass beat you know like that is that's a that's a little brother syndrome in an entire thing and if you keep going obviously the benefits will be there from all of it why do you think your style is good for the PL and the NLO we looked it up only five people in the history of lacrosse have been the projected number one overall picks for both.

Speaker 1 Very different styles of play, I do believe. Why do you think that is the case for your style of play? And have you always been like this?

Speaker 15 Yeah, I mean, box lacrosse alone is probably, you know, the most physical and the hardest game version of lacrosse there is that's out there.

Speaker 15 And, you know, being able to play that in Canada a couple summers ago and learning how hard, how hard how difficult that is.

Speaker 15 And then, you know, being able to, you know, play in college and, you know, learning the game at the highest level. you know, you got to figure out ways to score.

Speaker 15 You got to figure out different ways to play. And, you know, you can't do it the same way.
You got to bring a different version on game day.

Speaker 15 And so, you know, I think that's why the game is so great because you can be so creative. You can have so much fun with it.
But, you know, there's so many styles out there that can be successful.

Speaker 15 And, you know, just trying to play the version that's best for me. And that's just, you know, playing hard and trying to find the back of the net.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'll just score six goals in a national championship. Yep.
No big deal. Biggest game.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Need to play the best? You got it. How many times did you guys go? Touchdown? Walker Walls in the back end defense dude.
All-American. He's pickpocketing the back.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and a big fellow's pickpocket. He's got one of the long sticks.
Oh, yeah. He's got one of those long sticks.

Speaker 1 And you know, we heard about the curse boys beating the shit out of each other in the backyard. You should have seen what Walls was doing.
He's chopping down trees with picking colours.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was chopping it down. It's a boy.
He was really good at half.

Speaker 1 Connor has a question for you, boys.

Speaker 4 Yeah, CJ. Hopefully, I don't screw up this name, but I believe George Boyarti is a big story with the Cornell Lacrosse team.

Speaker 4 They kind of talked about it on the broadcast about how you guys, when you're in the gym, you know, working out, you don't do 20 reps, you do 21.

Speaker 4 Can you just talk about him and kind of the importance and the motivating factor of his passing 21 years ago? And also, did you get to speak to his family after the game?

Speaker 4 Was there anything with them once you guys secured the national championship?

Speaker 15 Yeah, George Boyarti is, you know, what Cornell Lacrosse is all about. You know, you think about

Speaker 15 all the years that

Speaker 15 everyone has put on the jersey and

Speaker 15 the long red line that we say with all the alums. And George is the ultimate teammate.
He's the best leader and motivator anyone's ever been around.

Speaker 15 And he unfortunately passed away on our field, Choke off field,

Speaker 15 trying to block a shot. And

Speaker 15 for this to be the 21st anniversary of George, and be able to get it done and bring this back to Ithaca is incredible.

Speaker 15 And, you know, to get all those hugs and text messages now from all the alums to see his family hold the trophy, you know, it's just an incredible feeling.

Speaker 15 And, you know, everyone who's ever had the opportunity to step inside our locker room and touch the sign and, you know, be a part of this special program, you know, everyone is just so happy.

Speaker 15 And, you know, we did it for George. We did it for Coach Moran.
We did it for A.M.Dananey as well.

Speaker 15 You know, we got it done. We brought it back.

Speaker 1 That's an awesome story. I love where we pay tribute.
You know, good things happen. Now, La Crosse feels like a tight group, obviously, still paying tribute there.

Speaker 1 And, you know, I watched Vino celebrate this Cornell team all year. Oh, yeah.
And the alumni are kind of, I think they're always behind or have become fully behind this particular team at Cornell.

Speaker 1 Feels like a beautiful thing. Couldn't imagine how tight the team is, especially with Walker Walls on the back.
Come on at the back end.

Speaker 1 Yeah, boys. Yeah, boys.

Speaker 1 And that entire thing. We don't know the ins and outs of the culture there.
So JJ has a question for you.

Speaker 1 This road trip looks incredible. Obviously, you just won a national championship.
You got your boy Walker driving, Walker driving. Who's on the aux? What's on the aux?

Speaker 1 And what kind of snacks do we got?

Speaker 4 Good question.

Speaker 15 Yeah, no, Walker's taking care of all of that.

Speaker 15 Just made a big pit stop at Sheets. Picked up a couple of things, chicken tenders, whatnot.

Speaker 1 Did we do the MTO order? Yeah, yeah. Give them in there.

Speaker 15 Yeah, here, get, we'll get.

Speaker 1 There it is. Yeah, Walker knows the deal here.
Where are you from, Walker?

Speaker 15 Richmond, Virginia.

Speaker 1 Okay, nice. I like that you like Sheets.
Just want to let you know. Strong.
Sheets is obviously an incredible state. But what are you playing on the aux, brother? What are we listening to?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 15 What we're trying to do is put together one of those power hours with the mixes from the commentators this weekend. That's what some of the national championship teams do.

Speaker 15 That's what we really need to get it on.

Speaker 1 How has it been the last few days? You boys have been celebrating there? I don't really know. Cornell types.
Bit of a runaway. I apologize.

Speaker 1 What is the celebration? Because I heard you guys played in. Obviously, Foxborough was

Speaker 1 packed. That was insane.
I assume the support from school was pretty wild. Has the celebration been awesome? I assume it has been.

Speaker 15 Yeah, it's been incredible. You know, we got back to Ithaca after the game and we were able to rip it up with just your teammates.
And then yesterday we had graduation.

Speaker 15 All the seniors' parents were there. And

Speaker 15 know we had a little parade too which was which was epic but um it's been an unreal couple hours not the boys really haven't gotten much sleep because you know we've just been ripping it

Speaker 1 i think you have to i think you have to pal all right enjoy the travels enjoy the chicken tendees and uh congrats on a historic season congrats on the national championship and uh we can't wait to see what you go on to do brother

Speaker 15 Thank you. Really appreciate it.
You guys are the best.

Speaker 1 Let's go. Let's go.
Not a champ.

Speaker 1 Yo. Yeah, I appreciate it.
We see Jake Walker Walls. Did he say they're going to do a power hour with

Speaker 1 the commentary? That's pretty awesome. That's

Speaker 1 he said, I think they said other teams have done this in the past. We got to ask the Kavanaughs.
Yeah, I wonder if they've done it. Yeah, I wonder who created the idea.

Speaker 1 Has that been passed along with the trophy? You get the trophy, and on the bottom of it, there's like a little piece of paper. Hey, cool thing to do with this.

Speaker 1 Have a power hour with commentators. That's great.
Power hour, right? That was never my gig. It's a good time.
I was a beard chucker. True.

Speaker 1 It gets the conversations rolling. I mean, you get to the back half.
Yeah, but also I did. You voted.
Yeah. Yeah, no doubt.
No doubt. You got to be.

Speaker 6 You got to be. You got to play Edward 40 hands.
That's what I thought they'd be doing.

Speaker 1 I didn't mind that because I can make things disappear quickly. And I do have an active bladder, so that was going to motivate me quicker.

Speaker 1 But the issue is the more you put down, the quicker it has to come out. So you got to really have a mental battle there with Edward 40.
What's the power hour? Power hour is like.

Speaker 1 Shot of beer every 60 seconds. Yeah, every minute.
And normally there's like a

Speaker 1 shot of beer. It comes out like six and a half.
Yeah, six, seven beers. An hour? Yeah, in one hour.
Unless you do a double.

Speaker 1 And there's clever, you know, music where it's like a minute long, as soon as a song change, okay, you take a shot.

Speaker 1 So a lot of people took a lot of pride in the list, the playlist, and that entire thing. So they're using commentators' calls.
That's so sick. So like going to the day, that's a free.

Speaker 1 That's a lot of 60 calls.

Speaker 1 I don't know if I could do my whole career. Oh, Jake.

Speaker 1 You want to know those moments? That could have just shifted to different turned down for once. You know what I mean? In the moment.

Speaker 1 Now they might do it for your hair. They might.

Speaker 1 I'm telling you, this might be the best day. I'm just going back to the hat.
No, hold on.

Speaker 1 You're not losing it.

Speaker 1 No, no, throw it out.

Speaker 1 Throw it out. I don't think you can go much longer, though.

Speaker 1 If you're going to be on TV, you're going to have this middle. This is my second day ever trying this.

Speaker 1 So I got to feel it. Have you thought about doing a ponytail in the booth?

Speaker 1 See? That will not happen. Exactly.
Okay. I mean, it is tough.

Speaker 4 To Pat's point, once the sides get to a certain point, it's hard.

Speaker 1 It's pretty brutal. Sanchez looks

Speaker 1 like the flow out of the back, like some good lettuce. Yeah.
Mark did have a good ponytail. He had good hair, strong hair.

Speaker 1 Sanchez? Yeah, Sanchez had a ponytail.

Speaker 13 You put that thing on the side sometimes, too.

Speaker 1 This looks really good, though. I think it shapes your gigantic head, right? Because you got one of his big ones.
You got one of those big mullets. Large head.

Speaker 1 That's partially why I keep lifting because I feel like if I let my body get too small,

Speaker 1 damn it looking a little weird.

Speaker 4 Your head's going to be so big.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like an an alien.

Speaker 1 But I think that's good hair right there. I don't think you would look like a freak, but I think like Connor implied there, but I do think that looks good.
I think that'd be good for the booth.

Speaker 1 Thank you. I'm excited for you to be in the booth, too.
That's a lot of travel, bro. AJ, isn't it?

Speaker 1 I mean, AJ and I have called two, three games together, and my only thought is this is so much time doing all this stuff. You travel, you travel four times a week.
What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 Yeah, but my, I don't know if you're not. You might be going to New York in the morning.
Like, you don't know. Like, you, you're.
Probably in the afternoon if I had a guess.

Speaker 1 We're looking at this quick turnaround here. Got a lot of conversations going on.
Got baby. Go, go, wife, go a family, got business, go, got a lot of things going on in that entire next week.

Speaker 1 But I signed, next week is absurd. I don't even want to get into it.
Next week's travel schedule, absurd. But I signed up for it knowing that.
Your thing was like, I don't want to travel.

Speaker 1 Remember, because you're only doing like six CBSs or seven CBSs because you didn't want to have to travel around for it all. Then you jump into commentating.
It's like, that's a lot of.

Speaker 1 It is. It is, yeah.
And ownership. Yeah.
I'm looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to it.
I love being in the stadium. Like, I love the NFL.
I love the football. I love being actually there.

Speaker 1 I love the audience. I love the players.
I love, so I'm really looking forward to it. So the Netflix thing, Christmas, was...
Yeah, it was definitely an eye-opener. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Being, because I hadn't been back in stadiums really much like that. And it was just, there's a great vibe about it.
I just, I really enjoyed it. And I love talking ball.
I love having the...

Speaker 1 elongated time to discuss the game and to talk people through what's going on and to talk them through the situations and what coaches and players might be thinking. I'm really looking forward to it.

Speaker 1 Have you been practicing? Have you been doing fake games? Oh, I mean, I did the one last year. Obviously, I've been watching a ton of games.

Speaker 1 I sit down, talk with the producers, talk with Ayan, and we're going through it all.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I mean, a lot of it comes down to making sure you know the rules, the situations, things like that, because the actual football stuff is A, stuff from your own head, but B, from conversations you have with coordinators.

Speaker 1 Do you already have your schedule? I mean, I know.

Speaker 1 We're the second booth, so it doesn't come. You don't know your schedule until sometimes the week before.
So the answer is no. Correct.
Thank you. I mean,

Speaker 1 I know when I'm going to be gone.

Speaker 6 I just don't know. What day are you getting in town? You get in there like Thursday or Friday? Sometimes it's going to be a long weekend.
No,

Speaker 1 Saturdays. Sometimes it's been great.
They're very good with me.

Speaker 1 Oh, good. I'll lose Saturday and back out Sunday.
I'm trying. They fall out all the time.

Speaker 4 I mean, it's awesome for us that you're in the booth, honestly, because sometimes

Speaker 4 some of the booths are a little

Speaker 1 bit cold together. Yeah, shike, if you will.
The reason why they're shy.

Speaker 1 Give me your top things you like about Accomitator and your top two things.

Speaker 1 But we We have no idea. Because if you might do something in your own way that's better than what everybody else is doing, it's hard to judge.

Speaker 1 Sometimes I like somebody doing something and then somebody else trying it. I hate it.
So it's like, I think you've got to find.

Speaker 6 If you care, if we feel like you care, I think for me at least, when I see like, hey, this dude loves ball, like,

Speaker 6 I can get into it for sure.

Speaker 2 That's why people rip on Romo now. They loved him early on, but then now he kind of is just like freewheeling and people are like, oh, this guy doesn't fucking prepare at all.

Speaker 2 He does play golf all week and gets out there.

Speaker 1 That's the negative about Tony, which there always is going to be.

Speaker 1 Whenever you're calling games, there's always going to be negative about you, by the way, because you're going to have to call the worst moment in a team's history.

Speaker 1 So you're going to be the one that's going to be the voice over that. You're going to be the one delivering the news to the fans that love team that, hey, they're fucking up here.

Speaker 1 As somebody that has pointed out some things

Speaker 1 to a team in the city that I'm in, a team that I'm pretty close to, their fans got pissed.

Speaker 1 Their fans are still pissed at the Colts fans are still mad at me for pointing out the very obvious about, hey, this is not how a professional football team operates. Very obvious.

Speaker 1 Very low-level professional football conversation. Like very, very low.
And they get pissed at me because I'm the one delivering that news. That is what you're signing up for.

Speaker 1 That is something that you're signing up for. So I think what you have to remain is confident because you're going to want to change with what people are saying to you.

Speaker 1 But no matter how much you change, you're going to piss people off.

Speaker 4 Yeah, stick to your guns for sure. Like Brady early on was not good.

Speaker 4 I think it was pretty clear.

Speaker 1 I don't think he was comfortable.

Speaker 4 Yeah, whether it was comfortability or just not knowing when things were going to happen and how much time he had. But like he just stayed Tom Brady.

Speaker 4 And then by the end of it, he was really, really good at broadcasting.

Speaker 1 Andrew, J.J. Watt, just like he's Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 And AJ, I don't know if I'm supposed to say this or not, but it's your sport. So like Gorms used to tell this to me whenever I was getting started.

Speaker 1 He's like, nobody can tell you how to talk about your sport. Like it's your sport.
Who's going to tell you your sport better than you?

Speaker 1 Well, this isn't an interesting thing to talk about in your sport. Well,

Speaker 1 if I think it's interesting, it is. Like, because it is your sport.
Like, you are one of the pillars in the history of the game. You'll be a first Ballot Hall of Famer.

Speaker 1 So, whatever you find interesting about the sport, I think you should hammer home. But you shouldn't alienate the doofuses.
You know what I mean? Like, that is something to think about.

Speaker 1 I'm very well aware of that.

Speaker 1 I think that being able to talk to the audience like you're a fan as well and being just as excited, to AJ's point, the passion, the energy, but also interjecting that experience and that knowledge that you have and some of that insider ball.

Speaker 1 And that hair that you have,

Speaker 1 they're going to come to the, they're going to do boot shots.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All I know is some boot boot shots on jj's hair you call a steelers game i'm gonna need you to kill tj yeah if he deserves it let's go ahead and talk to him can't just be like oh my brother's freaking awesome no matter what i say in that game i will be considered biased and no matter like there's there's definitely it's to your point every single game you're gonna get crushed on social media

Speaker 1 possibly from both sides and that's just the way that it goes i'm crushed well equipped to handle that now crushed oh yeah yeah like you just look any commentator's name yeah

Speaker 4 crushed i mean no matter what you do I mean, Pat gave away $2 million and got crushed. But, I mean, with you, like, you actually brought it up before the Steelers Chiefs game.
You're like,

Speaker 4 you said it in the booth before the game started. Like, well, it's going to be fun because no matter what I say today, like, it's going to turn out bad for me because TJ's playing the game.

Speaker 1 And I'm not going to act like he's not my brother.

Speaker 1 We're not going to pull wool over each other's eyes here. I'm not a moron.
Like, I know that. Yeah, but what if you say, you know, this is why that contract issue is such a big deal?

Speaker 1 You know, TJ's clearly not as comfortable comfortable as offseason was. His offseason was a little bit off.
He's not that hurt. It's not off.
I can tell you that.

Speaker 1 I was just watching him train the other day. He looks.
Oh, okay. We got a little info.

Speaker 1 Okay. We got a little info.

Speaker 1 He looks good. He looks very good.
Let's go to Hammer. Don.
Don. Tone.
Tege looks good. That's what we're hearing.

Speaker 1 He's training just like anybody else that could potentially be a Pittsburgh Steeler, Tone.

Speaker 7 Tege always looks good.

Speaker 7 That's never going to be a question.

Speaker 7 I knew there was going to be a little more

Speaker 7 piss in his vinegar this offseason. it felt like um you know

Speaker 1 yep

Speaker 1 a little more piss in his vinegar

Speaker 1 right after

Speaker 7 in the shelf and he takes that out and he says let's have a big offseason pisses in it puts it right back up there bingo you guys never heard that one before that's weird um no just because you know the season before he definitely should have won defensive player of the year and got robbed in that one uh didn't one didn't win last year and you know there was it got a little bit loud over the last few games uh so i i knew tj was going to come in and get ready especially you know what he's got mace's back too he mason him had a good conversation this last summer and said mason i'm gonna need you and tj said i got you dog mason knew this last summer he was gonna be this you know this this current summer we're in oh a couple

Speaker 1 we're not in summer yet uh memorial day just happened this summer brother okay so you're saying two days ago yeah mason and tj had a conversation yeah i got an inside source TJ has goatee.

Speaker 1 Is that what we're hearing too? That would be cool. A goatee?

Speaker 2 Yeah, like Mason's goatee. Well, Macy's got mustache now, but hadn't seen it.

Speaker 1 Oh, this guy isn't even paying attention to Pittsburgh Steelers at this point. His brother's on the damn team.

Speaker 7 Who would you rather have, JJ?

Speaker 7 Someone who's come in, prepared, you know, made flashcards for the team, been there with the wide receivers and stuff like that, or someone who's squirting squirt guns at Lollapalooza.

Speaker 1 He's not Lollapalooza. He's having a good time at a concert for Mike Studd.
Yeah, eating bark.

Speaker 1 Now, chewing bark, Terry Bradshaw says after he hears this guy talk, it makes him want to chew bark, which maybe that's good for the health. We don't know.

Speaker 1 probably.

Speaker 1 We have no idea what he's indicating, beneficial. But yeah, what do you think

Speaker 1 about chewing bark? No,

Speaker 7 which hypothetical quarterback would you rather have?

Speaker 7 Now, the one that's at Lala Blues and playing with squirt guns is a first battle Hall of Famer, very, very good, probably going to make the team better, but you know, comes with some baggage, maybe.

Speaker 1 What? Fake? What's the baggage?

Speaker 4 He wants to wear number 12.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 oh, is that what Terry's been?

Speaker 1 I don't think TB is going to go down easily in that entire thing. Terry Bradshaw won a lot for the city of Pittsburgh.
Four Super Bowls.

Speaker 1 How come we never really

Speaker 1 hear about it? That's a great question, actually. From Pittsburgh, grew up in Pittsburgh.
Have no idea why Terry Bradshaw's not more.

Speaker 7 Well, seven was better.

Speaker 1 Okay. But he's free to say that because of how.
I mean, that was his generation, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but in Pittsburgh, you would think that there would be like,

Speaker 1 hey, Terry Bradshaw, you know, that type of thing. But instead, it's like Steel Curtain, everything that happened back.
You remember what Lynn used to do in Swan? This guy's unbelievable.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like that Franco, Rochester, Immaculate Shelby. Everybody can play.
Everybody except the Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3 I mean, that's what, four Super Bowls, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And I mean, you can look at his highlights today, and they age like what guys are doing today.

Speaker 1 He put his finger on the pop of that ball because his hands are so large. Jam Hawks.
Let alone the entire story of him going on to be one of the biggest personalities in the history of sports.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but instead.

Speaker 1 Pittsburgh hates him.

Speaker 1 I don't think I hate him. He hates Pittsburgh.

Speaker 2 I don't think he hates him. I don't think he goes back on a lot, does he?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know if he hates Pittsburgh.

Speaker 7 No, there was the end of his career. There was a bit sour because he had an injury, and he thought Steelers' organization might not have done right by him.

Speaker 1 And he didn't speak well a couple times about, you know, it's a

Speaker 1 40, 50 years ago.

Speaker 1 Terry didn't say that. People don't forget, AJ.

Speaker 1 Take fading and say good things, you know, on the way out.

Speaker 1 That was half a century ago.

Speaker 7 Him and Chuck Snowden didn't really get along at the end, you know, it was the rumors.

Speaker 1 So, Chucky Knoll. And

Speaker 1 I made it.

Speaker 7 And the beginning. Chuck Noel brought us four Super Bowls, by the way.

Speaker 1 So Terry! Yeah, Terry's quarterback.

Speaker 13 Chuck Noel was at the wheel. We all know it.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Okay, so there's a Tom Brady-Bill Belichick situation in Pittsburgh way back, and just the generations of Yensers are like, we don't speak of Terry Brady. We like Chuck Brown.

Speaker 3 I just can't think of another, like Aikman, Cowboys, Marino. He didn't win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 You're right. He's Royal True.
Terry's on TV every day.

Speaker 3 Barf, Green Bay, no matter what he does, he's still royalty.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't say that. Hey, Rod.

Speaker 3 Like, I mean, I can't think of another quarterback, multiple championships in the city with that type of relationship.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, TB, thanks for what you did for Pitt. I wasn't alive.
Didn't really talk about it much, but

Speaker 1 the Immaculate Reception is right there in the airport. Thank you, Frank.

Speaker 1 Ball on the ground and all. No.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 You can put a playing card underneath there, brother. Yeah, I'm sure.
All right. Thanks, Tone.
Really good work out of you today. Thank you.

Speaker 2 Tone's also somewhat forgetful.

Speaker 2 If you remember when we were supposed to have him on the show at Super Bowl week and he spent the next like four days just walking around the convention center trying to, where the hell is McAfee's set at?

Speaker 1 They couldn't find him is what we were told. Yes, correct.

Speaker 1 We had a camera set up at Radio Row because we decided not to go down to Radio Row because the year prior, we had four people in a two foot by two foot space at Radio Row.

Speaker 1 So pointless to go down to Radio Row, but we'll set up a camera down there. You see, we beat the game, two foot by two foot space.
We'll put a camera there.

Speaker 1 Then we can just stop people that come by got terry bradshaw tomorrow oh huge yes can't wait probably would have talked about this yeah we were just talking about in there and then five minutes before he's supposed to come on we can't find terry bradshaw what do you mean you can't find terry he was here we can't find him and then they were told that terry couldn't find the camera So we thought there was a chance he was just wandering around Radio Road.

Speaker 2 They found him later. He's like out in the middle of the field, just like throwing a football.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. Throwing a on the bench He's great on Fox has been for so long when he traveled I think he went to Japan good actor.
Yeah, he's yeah

Speaker 6 he showed his cheeks in that Matt McConaughey movie.

Speaker 1 Yeah, is that why they don't like him?

Speaker 1 I think Pittsburgh people would be cool with him showing cheeks definitely in a McConaughey movie Pittsburgh people ain't afraid I genuinely we brought that up this morning like why is Terry Bradshaw not I let and everybody's like he did something

Speaker 1 we'd have to talk to an old we'd have to talk to an old-timer that was legit and then Tim Actie Tim Actley comes in I go hey how come Terry

Speaker 1 Hey, he was good to me. Yeah, I liked it.

Speaker 1 I was moving somebody into the building that he worked at. He came down, him and his lady at the time, something Starbucks.
And he said, hello, wish me luck. And he's always done right by me.

Speaker 1 And then Tim just, I don't know why we don't talk about him.

Speaker 1 Cool. Everybody's like, yeah, let's call Kaboli.
Let's call him Mark Kaboli. Kaboli will have an answer.

Speaker 1 You know, Kaboli, how do you feel about Kaboli? I don't know well enough to have an audience. Jage hates Mark Kaboli.

Speaker 1 That is what I I just heard there.

Speaker 1 I know he's a friend of the program. He's correspondent of the program.

Speaker 4 It is 2.45. He might be on second nap.

Speaker 1 Shit.

Speaker 1 He might be in the

Speaker 1 middle of second nap.

Speaker 4 I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 Well, siesta.

Speaker 2 Second nap, third lunch.

Speaker 1 You know, you might. Well, they're right.

Speaker 4 They're right. You know, they coincide.

Speaker 1 If he has a mayonnaise sandwich on deck,

Speaker 1 like, ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, correspondent for our program. Also a WWE

Speaker 2 calmest.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, Mark Bowl. Yeah, boy.
Mark, they said you were potentially on your second nap, third lunch. Nice to see you out at work.
What are you doing right now, brother? Of course.

Speaker 16 I'm actually

Speaker 16 watching...

Speaker 16 Probably something I'm not supposed to be watching inside the Steelers facility. Flip the camera.

Speaker 1 Who is it? Yeah, flip the.

Speaker 1 I don't think you should. You can show us quick.
I probably should. You're good.
Zoom in. Yeah, I think I'm going to be able to do it.

Speaker 1 They're probably yelling at me. Don't zoom in.

Speaker 1 You got

Speaker 1 Closer to teeth.

Speaker 1 That's where we're going. You can't quite see the nostrils.

Speaker 1 You can't see the hairs. Hold on.

Speaker 16 I can tell you who it is. It was Will Howard.

Speaker 1 Oh, Will Hard.

Speaker 1 We like seeing Will Howard went from Will Hard to your teeth and now get a chance. There he is, man.

Speaker 1 There he is.

Speaker 1 What the fuck?

Speaker 1 Hey, thank you, Kaboli, for the on field. Boots on the ground.
What's up, hey, Will? All right, keep it down. Keep it down.
Hey, quick question for you, Mark here.

Speaker 1 Not about Will Hired or the current Steelers team or TJ Watts

Speaker 1 situation with JJ being here. Anyways, Kabols, hey, how come Terry Bradshaw is never talked about like with Pittsburgh Steelers? We were trying to figure it out.
We couldn't find an answer.

Speaker 1 We like me, Toe, and Nick, we're just like,

Speaker 1 he did something. That's what everybody always says.
He's like one of the most famous NFL pundits, won four Super Bowls in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 I think anytime they show highlights, obviously it's Pittsburgh Steelers highlights.

Speaker 1 And it's like, I don't think I remember anybody talking about him growing up like Terry Bradshaw's a guy that we love around here. Why is that?

Speaker 16 Well, you have to be old, first of all.

Speaker 16 I think people still talk about him, but you have to be of a certain age group to talk about him in this city.

Speaker 16 For some of the

Speaker 16 actually people in the city really didn't appreciate him not showing up

Speaker 1 for,

Speaker 16 I believe, the Chiefs' funeral way back in the day as well. So, some people might not like him as that.

Speaker 16 But a lot of people still believe that he is maybe the best Steelers quarterback of all time, even though Ben came in and probably

Speaker 16 surpassed that a little bit. So, I don't know if I'm answering your question here right now, but I think it's more of a regional thing here.

Speaker 16 He probably should be getting more publicity than he did just with the four Super Bowls in six years.

Speaker 1 Yes, especially in Pittsburgh, like the amount of, I don't want to say autograph signings, but you'd paint, like everything that you would think would happen. Never really saw him back around.

Speaker 1 We'd like to let Terry know: hey, thanks for what you did for Yensers back in the day, buddy.

Speaker 1 Not great at not showing up. Maybe there was a scheduling conflict or who knows what the case is.
But all right, Kaboli, we appreciate you. Tell Will Hart, we appreciate him.

Speaker 16 Yeah, I think he's in a little bit of a meeting right now, so I can't scream at him.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I'll do it that's smart. Smart, smart.
Thank you, Kaboli. Is Aaron there? Is Aaron Rodgers there? I heard he's not showing up at OTAs.
Oh, he's not on team.

Speaker 16 He's not at OTA's, but apparently he was staying at a really cheesy hotel in the Strip District over the weekend. So

Speaker 5 following a radio station.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right, ladies and gentlemen, Mark Kabul, thank you. Yeah, boy.

Speaker 1 Cheesy hotel down in a strip district. Great.
Nice district. Okay.
Strip district's very nice. That was the rumor of someone apparently saw him at a hotel staying in the strip over the week.

Speaker 1 At a cheesy? What does that mean? I don't know.

Speaker 5 I I think you know maybe a not-so-nice hotel. Probably a hotel.

Speaker 1 They probably meant sleazy. Yeah.
Oh, so he just said cheesy. They meant sleazy down in the strip? Is there...
I thought they redid the strip. They're still still parked.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but they got that indoor putt-putt bar stayed. That place is sweet.
That place was sweet. They got the cool soccer field there.
Really? What is it? Indoor? Stadium? No.

Speaker 1 No, River. I'm the River.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're talking about North Shore everywhere. Hi, Mark.

Speaker 4 That ain't the Strip District.

Speaker 1 I didn't. I was just saying they have a cool soccer field.
I didn't believe that it was real the first time you said it. That was downstation scare.
Yeah, dude. Yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 Downstation Scare you're talking about, not North Shore. Okay.
Let me tell you about Station Scare. All right.
Used to be the greatest haunted anything in the history. Okay.

Speaker 1 You go down there, it was like a state fair, but it was haunted. They had this clown that they would put a microphone in front of.
Greatest shit talker in the history. Do you remember this guy, Nick?

Speaker 1 This clown that used to shit talk? He should be a professional. I don't know what he does.

Speaker 1 This clown, as soon as you walk in, some sort of athletic feat, he's sitting at the top of it, creepy looking, obviously, incredibly creepy,

Speaker 1 chirping, talking shit to every single person in there. Then obviously, you got a haunted house down there.
You got to sign waivers. They're going to touch you.

Speaker 1 They're going to. Yep.

Speaker 1 Free reign. Yep.

Speaker 4 Boy. One, two.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're going to get you. Yeah, I was never allowed to go because of that reason.
Now they turn on the body. You wouldn't sign the waivers.

Speaker 7 No, the coach wouldn't let me go. He didn't want me getting stabbed by one of the lunatics down there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, which they would try to get you because their goal was to make you scared. And if you weren't scared from a punch or maybe a shoulder, there's a chance they're going to gut you.
Well,

Speaker 1 that would scare you but coach then would have to go kill somebody again you know he didn't want to do that okay coach can't kill anybody you remember when station scare had one of the greatest cowboy bars country bars of all time what was that place called something saloon nick

Speaker 1 saddle ridge saddle ridge yeah there it is not a saloon at all saddle ridge was the name of the place tequila cowboy

Speaker 1 tequila cowboy is a good spot that's on the north shore that is that is not station square station square used to be a great spot not everybody wanted to go as much as me i always wanted to end up at station square I wanted to go Station Scare every week.

Speaker 7 Our last St. Patty's Day there, you wanted to go so bad.

Speaker 1 So bad. So bad.
Get me down to Station Scare because they got that country boy. That homeless guy.
Well, brought the homeless guy out with us. He had a great St.

Speaker 1 Patrick's Day, probably the greatest holiday he's ever had in his entire life. Last one, right? I don't doubt it.
Nick got left on the curb for the homeless guy. That's not true.

Speaker 1 Nick was with another guy. The homeless guy needs a rod.
Sorry, Nick.

Speaker 1 That's not true. We actually didn't get in the cars.
That's tough. Cars came outside.
We chose not to get in cars. We're going to hang out with this homeless guy.

Speaker 1 Nick didn't get the message. Oh, man.
Nick was a different group. He was at a different time.
It was a different thing going on. The group he was with, I wasn't signing up for.

Speaker 1 How did the homeless guy earn the spot? He's right there in the corner, has signs saying knocking lights for beer. And I say, you got it.
All the beer you want today, buddy. Come on.

Speaker 4 And he joined us. Their buddy, Joe Hadley of Joe Hadley, Brindle Water.

Speaker 1 Nah, that is not true.

Speaker 1 That is not true. Anyways,

Speaker 1 Station Scare used to be a great spot. North Shore is a great spot.

Speaker 1 Station Scare is still good. They got that stadium down there.
Strip District, though, Aaron Rodgers is hanging out in the Strip District.

Speaker 1 I guess that would be a place that Aaron Rodgers would go to, the Strip District. Certainly believable.
AJ, why is he just hanging around Pittsburgh, but he doesn't want to sign with Steelers?

Speaker 1 I don't understand. He just wants to see the station.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I guess so. I guess he really just checking everything out.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 6 Is there any video footage of him at the strip district? No,

Speaker 1 call it in a radio show.

Speaker 1 Call it in TV said he's seen Aaron Rodgers this weekend. Maybe he shows up at OTAs.
Then he doesn't show up at OTAs for a team that he's not signed to, and people say he's not even at OTAs.

Speaker 1 And then the reason why he didn't sign with the team is because he doesn't want to go to OTAs. Exactly.
It's a wonderful little story.

Speaker 1 Speaking of stories, anytime JJ Watt joins us, we like to have the people ask the questions that they've been yearning to ask JJ since the first time they've seen him.

Speaker 1 Maybe it was hard knocks when he took over. Maybe it was when he was scoring touchdowns.
Maybe it was when he was creating a Hall of Fame career.

Speaker 1 Maybe it was when he debuted a new hairstyle, whether at the Super Bowl or right here today.

Speaker 1 This one. Yeah, top notch.
A plus. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for hashtag Ask Jage.
Jay, Jage.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 What do you say?

Speaker 1 Hashtag ask

Speaker 1 Jage.

Speaker 1 Nailed it. How many people call you Jage on a day-to-day?

Speaker 1 Would you say?

Speaker 1 Two. Okay.

Speaker 1 Let's go to some hashtag Ask Just Me. More today, yeah.

Speaker 1 Me and Teach. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What's Derek call you?

Speaker 1 Jage.

Speaker 1 That's two. Well, what I

Speaker 1 uh Jage. Totally.
I haven't seen them today. So you're the first.
This crew is the first one to call me Jage today. Okay.
How many people in your life call you Jage?

Speaker 1 Generally, two. Since I'm here today, three.
What about the wife, though? Wife doesn't go, Jage.

Speaker 1 She does not call me Jake.

Speaker 1 No, that would be great. Oh, but dad, I seen dad.
Dad looks like he can hammer some beers. Oh, yeah.
Hammer some beers. He's never had about 45.
He's a big beer guy. He's Jage.

Speaker 1 Go give me another another fucking beard. He's not? No.
He looks a hard-nose. He looks like hard-nosed books.
I can see it. Pack-o-belt.
He does not drink?

Speaker 1 Does he smoke weed? No.

Speaker 1 Die coat firefighter.

Speaker 1 Firefighter? Okay, so that makes sense. I'm sorry.
Now, granted, in fact, he's a firefighter and doesn't drink. I think that is a little surprising.

Speaker 1 But also, thank you for your commitment to serving your community, Mr. Watt.
He doesn't say, Jake, get over here. No, no.

Speaker 1 He actually does say Jage. Yeah, he does.
Okay, I'm happy we get the bottom. He does.
I don't like that. I got to do investigative journalism with every fucking question.

Speaker 1 Okay, I just want to let you know that, Jake. What do people call you?

Speaker 1 Kafi.

Speaker 1 P.M. Yeah, P-M.

Speaker 2 Kafi.

Speaker 1 Kaffi. Yeah, Patty.
Keffatrick. Patty, Patty Cakes.
Patty Mac.

Speaker 1 Patty Mac is cool. I've been called Patty Mac before.
I've been called Patty Mac before. P-Mac, Patty Mac.

Speaker 1 McCaffey. McCaffey a lot.
People call me McCaffy a lot. Stadium MC is actually for my entire rookie year called me McCaffey, which is really cool at all games.
Your rookie year? Oh, wait.

Speaker 1 Well, first of all, they called me Adam Vinatari because I was kicking off and they didn't know it was me. They called me Adam Vinatari.
That was pretty cool. Could a little pop in some other places.

Speaker 1 I was a Hall of Famer out there. I actually gave credit to Adam for one of my on-site kicks, which was sweet, actually, to think about.
I'm getting called Adam Vinatari.

Speaker 1 And then other places will call me McCaffey. I think Houston did it one time.
Independent, number one, Patrick McCaffey. I'm like, fucking A.
Yeah. Mini NFL.

Speaker 1 Thought I made myself here. Did not.
PM is a new one.

Speaker 1 Never been called PM.

Speaker 4 PM is pretty fire, though.

Speaker 1 PM's good.

Speaker 1 What are you going to call me, Jake?

Speaker 1 I like Patty Mac. I think I'm gonna go with that now.
I like that every conversation we have, you're gonna say Patty Mac. Should I? I think it's gonna be tough to commit to.

Speaker 1 The people that try to call me Patty Mac, then they realize difficult one is a lot.

Speaker 1 Would it annoy you or would you be on board? I'd be cool with it, but I think you would feel annoyed saying it. Okay.
You know what I mean? Yeah, let's give it a shot. I mean, if it fails, it fails.

Speaker 1 All right. Sounds good, Jake.
Patty Mac.

Speaker 1 Hashtag Ash Jage. Let's get to him.
This one's from Jacob Slife at Slife28. Hashtag Ash Jage.
Any hunter-wiped shits lately? Official AJ Hawk told me to ask you, says Jacob.

Speaker 1 I don't know if Jacob is potentially AJ's neighbor or maybe his burner, but would like to know if you've potentially just rubbed your cheeks dry lately.

Speaker 1 I mean, I think AJ and I obviously were on one side of this and you somehow are on the other side of this, but I think we represent most normal people out there that, yeah, every now and then, once, maybe twice a year, there's a there's a messy situation.

Speaker 1 100 wipes, that was just you saying. Well, I mean, that's just, that's insane.
You mean like 50? There's a lot. I i mean yeah we're i don't know i don't count how many how many

Speaker 1 we don't count one it's it's a significant situation two

Speaker 6 over 30 three i have a question for you because

Speaker 1 four that's gee here we go here five son of a bitch six six

Speaker 1 seven

Speaker 1 eight

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 1 actually takes longer because you got to get it off the spool and you got to do 10 that's only one-tenth of what you said no you're spending that much time wiping your ass after you poop?

Speaker 1 There's a once-in-a-year situation, maybe after

Speaker 1 a heavy bean

Speaker 1 beans and tacos or something, you know, that just gets real, real wild. It gets real out there and it's tough.
But no, I would say the standard and dude wipes has helped significantly.

Speaker 1 Learned how to use a bidet, which is cool because that helps significantly. Yeah, those are a real deal.
Big, big fan. If you can afford a bidet in your house, you do the bidet in your house.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That took me too long to figure them out.

Speaker 1 There was water going a lot of different ways and i didn't know how to operate yeah are you like a j or are you sitting down to pee too with the bidet so it's coming in coming out

Speaker 1 yeah you have

Speaker 1 you see slater a bidet the bidets are crazy you go out to vegas or something you end up in like a sweet yeah that was a drinking fountain well i think that's what jade was doing at the beginning did it sound like no i i i didn't understand because like you gotta get it's hard to turn it on you can't turn it on before you get on it because then it sprays and it sprays those ones

Speaker 1 i don't know it's a wild situation i now have one of those cool japanese toilets those are awesome like with the buttons it goes the other way yeah what are you talking about like flush it's got a remote control technology i could pick up a lot of different with the toilet it's congratulations taking our job they are hey you won't know i'm rich but there'll be signs did they take it there'll be signs yeah you walk through the house this guy got a japanese uh bidet i believe is what that is got his own remote opens and closes on its own seats heated as you're walking up to it this the seat opens it's heated and it pre-sprays the bowl.

Speaker 2 It's

Speaker 2 going to have any clingers in there. Does it call you James?

Speaker 1 Hello, James. Hello, Jake.
Turn it out on me.

Speaker 1 So, do you have a video game controller where you can move it up and down? Yeah, you can do, I mean, you can move it up and down. You can choose

Speaker 1 the strength of it. No, it does not speak to you.
Keep shit to me. I have seen ones recently, which I don't fully understand.

Speaker 1 They'll analyze what's going in. Oh, really? Yeah, it'll analyze your shit.
Wait, what? The poop. Well, the poop is indicator.
I thought you'd have like medical? What is it?

Speaker 6 Is it sifting through there?

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't know.
I assumed you had one.

Speaker 1 I think it has fingers that come out from the toilet and

Speaker 1 sensors. And then it goes back up.
And then it

Speaker 1 sprays out the fingers.

Speaker 1 The poop, though, is something you can get a lot of tells from, right? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 I may need to look into that if it's fucking dissecting my poop and telling me what exactly is in there.

Speaker 1 You also need to think about having this Japanese toilet that's coming. Yeah, if you want.
I mean, one here would be, I feel like, necessary. No.

Speaker 1 No. There's more.

Speaker 1 There's a question. No, not only that.
It's just, I don't know if you understand what happens with that guy talk out there. Okay.

Speaker 1 Talk destroys bathrooms, not just toilets, entire bathrooms. The guy shuts it down out there.
You see him? He looks small. Yeah, but you've been in NFL locker rooms.

Speaker 1 Like, I mean, you know what it's like. Nothing like this man.
Full pimento loafs. Yeah.
Just shuts it down. Like

Speaker 1 you cannot. Like a hippo.

Speaker 1 It's like a hippo.

Speaker 1 So, what do you? I'm curious. Now, in this situation, how is that handled? You guys make him do it? Is there a plumber that comes in?

Speaker 2 No, he's plunging that thing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Has to.

Speaker 13 He used to just leave him plugged until he got called out for. Yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, he is.

Speaker 1 Yeah, let alone, we have people spilling stuff all over the thing.

Speaker 2 Usually him as well.

Speaker 1 Potentially him. He's part of the crew.
You talk about an NFL game day, like an hour, two hours before kickoff. That is one of the worst.

Speaker 1 Yeah, clear out about as good as you can, like as bad as you can have. If you were to add him to one of those, they'd say, talks here.

Speaker 1 Let's go to the next bad stage question.

Speaker 1 Oh, what's that? Hippos. That was a hippos good to me.

Speaker 1 So you understood what he meant to say. I did.

Speaker 1 Talk's unbelievable. He tried to take down a plane with his ass one time.
You remember that? As soon as he got on a private plane? First time. First time he got on a private plane? No.

Speaker 1 Marched straight to the back. No.

Speaker 1 You can't, man. You got to bite that bullet.
You just hold on. Yeah.
Until you land. How long was the flight? Four.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's what he was thinking. He's thinking, I can't do four hours with this thing in.

Speaker 1 Once it got out of him, I think everybody understood, like, there's, how was that even inside of you? Yeah. You didn't ask to be another human dumping.

Speaker 1 They didn't make it down the

Speaker 1 airplane, the airplane toilet. Yeah, that might help him.
I actually started to nose that.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 1 Excuse me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it came up like a

Speaker 1 let the pilot know before you so you can adjust.

Speaker 1 So you fly on those big planes. We don't get a chance to do that.

Speaker 1 Is there a toilet in the front of the plane where you what the plane you fly on as well? No.

Speaker 1 Okay. I'm not like like we had a guy not like you

Speaker 1 we got lucky to be on one of these planes and we had we had a co-pilot dump in the front one so we had the back thing kind of shut front was kind of locked away and uh poop just started like trickling back the door and we started smelling poop so we assumed like somebody ripped ass and everybody's like no it actually didn't actually didn't it was like well who pooped back there go wake a couple people up in the back hey did you dump no no i've been asleep okay somebody pooped in here.

Speaker 1 So obviously, we opened a thing. Co-pilot standing there.
We're like, hey, did you just dump?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 You did not dump. And it was like, he certainly did.
That guy had a good, I mean, that was pungent. Oh, yeah.
It took over the whole plane. It did.

Speaker 1 30, 45 minutes, too, because it was just seeping underneath our door into our nostrils as we're playing Euchre. Do you know how to play that game? Euchre? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Not

Speaker 1 no, not proficiently. Let's get back to that.
Being in Wisconsin, though. And you don't play? Not that bad.
No, Cribbage. I know Cribbage.
I think they're very similar. I don't think I know Cribbage.

Speaker 1 I don't know Cribbage. Harry Potter plays.

Speaker 4 No, it's Quidditch.

Speaker 1 Cribbage is with a board? Yeah, there's a board. We've got pegs.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Keep going. Go to the next question.
I play cards. You play pegs.

Speaker 1 Let's get to a hashtag Ash Jade's question.

Speaker 1 Great.

Speaker 1 Thanks, Patty Mac.

Speaker 4 That's so cool. I could tell he's already losing Steve.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you don't like Steve. I just got to remember.
No, I have to remember. At C Dives.

Speaker 1 C D.

Speaker 1 Hey, you know, D?

Speaker 1 No, I'm catching,

Speaker 1 I'm downwind of a lot of things here, and

Speaker 1 I'm feeling the wind.

Speaker 1 You all right, dude? He's all doped up. Oh, this guy's

Speaker 1 on CBD right now. I'm downwinds.
All right, let's get to the Ash James, please.

Speaker 1 What are your hopes for Burnley FC in their return to the Premier League? What's key to their success? Hashtag Ash J. That's a good question.
It is a great question.

Speaker 1 We are obviously hoping to break the run of three up, three down of the last two seasons. Very difficult to do.
The Premier League is obviously,

Speaker 1 extremely difficult league with continuing funds being pumped in at extremely high levels. But we are extremely excited about our team.

Speaker 1 Really proud of the season that they had, and I think Scott Parker did a great job, and our defense is phenomenal. So hopefully we have

Speaker 1 a defensive stalwart and some good counter-attacking, put some goals in. Your goalie's not going to be able to stand on his head for two months straight like he did this last time.

Speaker 1 He's incredible, man. He's a great, great player, great kid.

Speaker 1 And I've always said it and i'll keep saying it he will be england's number one keeper someday is he still under contract with you guys yes can we load him for tst no we already got our goal we don't you cannot have any of our players for tst

Speaker 1 yeah because they couldn't make the team yeah we'd have to try they'd have to try out you're not even on the team this year who you look at the roster i'm on the roster did you register yourself they were very serious about registration there I don't know.

Speaker 1 Are you registered?

Speaker 13 We're registered.

Speaker 1 So we got general manager, brother. Are you registered?

Speaker 1 Are you guys registered? We're back on our rules.

Speaker 1 What are you talking about? There's rules. Sounds like there's a lot of people.
Like, if you're not registered on the roster, you can't play. I'm registered on the roster.

Speaker 1 You might do that on purpose so you don't have to play. Do you want to see our roster? Is that what you want to do? Is it say Patty Mac?

Speaker 1 Let's see the roster. I'd like to see the roster.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen. Our official roster.
Holy shit. What is that for? For CONCAFA.
Graduating class from West Virginia 2025. 2025.

Speaker 1 As you see there, top left corner. Ridiculous.
Pat McAfee on the roster. Once again, I am honored to have made the roster of this CONCAFA team.

Speaker 1 This CONCAFA team is going to continue to win and continue to succeed at TST. Jeff Cameron, I have good news for the rest of TST.
I don't believe he will be playing. He suffered an injury in training.

Speaker 1 What? Much like myself. Damn.

Speaker 1 His is a lower body. Mine was an upper body.
Nonetheless, Jeff Cameron will be in attendance. Don't worry about that.
Grella back on the squad after a lot of questions. That's bullshit.

Speaker 1 I'm out.

Speaker 1 Fuck Grella. I'm out.
No, no, Grella was good. Grella was trying to run up the price.
He was trying to extort you for cash. What kind of prices you got? He was trying to go to Burtonley.

Speaker 1 He was trying to extort you for cash. Don't you worry about that.
Our roster is happy. Our roster is happy.
No,

Speaker 1 I'm telling you right now, you got 45 people up here. This is a locker room mutiny waiting to happen.
I'm not getting enough minutes. I'm not getting no minutes.
Why is he on the field?

Speaker 1 I'm not on the field. That's a mutiny.
What do you think I'm there for?

Speaker 13 It's a long tournament, brother.

Speaker 1 Don't act like you didn't have one last time. This one's going to be way worse.

Speaker 13 We didn't have one. We were just fighting each other who were playing.
Our best players were fighting.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but how'd they get through it, Dumpy?

Speaker 13 Yeah, they figured it out.

Speaker 1 Through team chemistry. Yeah, and with a guy like Drew Ruggles on the team.
Everyone loves an underdog, Dumpy. I see your hat says everyone loves an underdog.
What kind of underdog?

Speaker 1 You guys are paying your players more than Ohio State is. What do you mean?

Speaker 1 What are you talking about?

Speaker 13 Bournemouth has players that are fucking under contract.

Speaker 1 They're cheating.

Speaker 1 There's teams openly cheating. And listen, if you want to call this Ohio State, cool.
Because there's a Texas out there. There's an Oregon out there.
And what did Ohio State do last year? Oh,

Speaker 1 they won the business. Thanks for captain, Jage.
All right, we'll see what happens.

Speaker 2 Listen, you've got to pay a guy like Red Boots, otherwise he's going to go to the next highest bidder.

Speaker 1 There are damn good teams last year. That Jamaican team was fire.
Very good. We had that first game.
That was tough for us. We learned a lot.
We were still learning how to play.

Speaker 1 Rules, just learning, period, how to play the game. Richard Costanzo, currently college coach for

Speaker 4 George Mason.

Speaker 1 George Mason.

Speaker 1 Western Pennsylvania dog. One of the first guys out of Western Pennsylvania to make it into the ODP world, which is Olympic development program.
He's a year older than me. I love that dude.

Speaker 1 He is a grinder. He is going to run people.
Our team this year, you know, last year we had a lot of older guys. You know, hey, let's do one for a gipper here.
This is TPT.

Speaker 1 This is Throwback Thursday at TST. This year, we got a lot of guys that are in great shape.

Speaker 3 Who is Philip E.

Speaker 1 So that's the thing about Philip E. He's goalie.

Speaker 1 He was goalie at the year, I think, at MASL last year or two years ago. Can play with his feet.

Speaker 1 So that's a big deal okay yeah yeah yeah so instead of having to substitute meet stefan miatovich right there who's giving he's talking to you jj he's talking to you jj

Speaker 1 quiet

Speaker 1 quiet your mouth

Speaker 1 quiet your moth that's what miatovich quiet your moth is what he's saying there swag i mean he didn't he's not gonna have to play goalie this year or whenever it gets to target cold quad and last but not least the indianapolis outlaw yeah obviously the kid yeah thomas sauner yeah sauner's back i don't think that is the best photo of thomas sauner i think he looks more more like a linebacker.

Speaker 1 Well, that's what he does. And he scores goals.
That's what he plays like. He scores goals.
Mike Foss, looking to get a lot more minutes this year, hopefully. Been training.
Bite the forehead on him.

Speaker 1 Love it.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 1 You got to head the ball. You got to put the ball on the net.

Speaker 1 I mean, look at it. It's on two different screens.

Speaker 1 He had to move up to the next screen.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he does have an eight head there.

Speaker 1 You're right. Yeah.
Jesus Pacheco is a problem.

Speaker 1 You know, Gordo, obviously back to do his thing.

Speaker 1 Baby, when you see him play, you go, that guy's running hard.

Speaker 4 Yeah, high knees.

Speaker 1 Emmanuel Ledesma, oh, my God. Man, it looks like a UFC fighter.
He looks like he beat the shit up. Well, that's the thing about our team.
As you know, we set the tone and we win games.

Speaker 1 You didn't win it last year. You're talking like

Speaker 1 the defending champions. You're talking like the defending champs.
We had no idea we were signing up for quarterfinals, brother.

Speaker 13 First round.

Speaker 1 Quarter finals. Congrats.
Raise a banner. AFC is a good one.
We'll raise a banner when we beat your ass. We thought about it.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you what, if we could raise a banner, we would have. And if we would have.
Quarter finalist, Concafa, put it up.

Speaker 13 6-1 against Burnley FC.

Speaker 1 Have you ever, did you know what you were signing up for last year? Nope, not at all. Me neither.

Speaker 1 I know. You think that Foss guy with that brain under there knew what he was signing up for whenever we went there? No way.
No. But now, you think Tony Miola knew what the fuck was going on last year?

Speaker 1 No. Nobody did.
I'm a Tab Bravos. I don't know if many would have signed up if they did.

Speaker 4 Tab was scouting.

Speaker 1 What is your problem?

Speaker 1 I think more people would have signed up because of how great it is. I need a team to root for this year, so I'm concafa.
Let me tell you, I'm open for bidding on fandom.

Speaker 1 You guys don't have to do it. You guys

Speaker 1 don't make them make you do it.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 oh, concave

Speaker 1 in our first try. Yeah, great.

Speaker 1 But unlike you, we're going back.

Speaker 1 We're trying to conquer the beast that is TST. And we got a great, great roster this year.
You talk about everybody being upset about playing time? Sure, that's going to come. We want that to come.

Speaker 1 You're talking about guys maybe being upset about not taking a free kick. Maybe somebody else takes a free kick who's definitely not going to score the free kick.

Speaker 1 He's just going to kick the ball out of the stadium. Now we got two other people upset about who's going to take it a free kick.
Maybe that does cause a little drama. We learn from those things.

Speaker 1 And whenever these fights

Speaker 1 start, that's when a culture takes over, brother. And Concafe already has a culture.

Speaker 1 We like to have a good time.

Speaker 1 Great time. Some of the team more so than the other.
Yeah, miss you, Ed Speed.

Speaker 1 DJ Ed Speed is going to be missing. He was on the Yaux court.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He didn't make the team this year. Kind of bummed about that.
He got hurt, too.

Speaker 1 Speed was great before the game. He's great.
He was. I will say.
He might be on another team. Maybe he should be.
He was our DJ, so we're going to have to figure out who's going to take that role.

Speaker 1 Maybe Taub.

Speaker 1 Ramos, coach.

Speaker 1 I've been hearing Tony Miola and Taub Ramos have been actually watching like film for the last couple months on this.

Speaker 1 Of course. Let's fucking go.

Speaker 1 Boys also had a

Speaker 1 training camp. Yeah, he did that last year.
No. Last year, vastly different.
And nobody knew what they were fucking signing up for last year. We had no idea.

Speaker 1 I thought you said you did a Florida training camp. They did a Florida training camp.
Yeah, they took a day. Also, they did do it.
Yeah, but nobody knew what they were doing.

Speaker 1 Now we have like a concentrated goal. Tony Miola's brain wrapped around what TST Sevens is, bub, problematic for everybody else.
Don't be surprised when

Speaker 1 it becomes a million-dollar programmer. I will be surprised.
Well, don't happily. Happily surprised.
Well, just follow along and watch what Gordo does out there. Watch what Deehoff does.

Speaker 1 Mario Alvarez back on the squad.

Speaker 1 Did Gump have any possibility of making the playing team? He is. No.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He might play. None.
At all.

Speaker 13 No chance.

Speaker 6 You should see him in warm-ups, Jage.

Speaker 1 I know. That's what I'm saying.
Like, he's got some skills. Gump, was there any lobbying at all you were trying to to get out there?

Speaker 13 I've lobbied a bit. I could be out there.
We don't know yet.

Speaker 1 Is that legal? Are you registered as a coach or a player? Enough with your registered side. I'm registered to play.
Enough with your registered. We had some registration battles last year, so I know.

Speaker 1 He's a coach.

Speaker 1 Are you guys using your ESPM powers to just definitely? We tried to change the time of one of the games. We thought we had that type of sway.
Uh-uh. They went the complete opposite direction.

Speaker 1 And I was not happy about it. I was like, we fucking needed it this time, but we don't care.
Scheduled it the other time. I'm like, I feel like we're doing a lot for this one.

Speaker 1 I feel like you're doing i feel like i feel like we're trying a lot

Speaker 1 and they're like no the tournament has to remain a tournament and after talking to them after the tournament i have massive respect for the people that run this they have oh it's a lot of passion a lot of everything behind this they're trying to keep this as a great tournament tbt the basketball tournament obviously everybody knows about tst four times the size

Speaker 1 Like the amount of people, tickets sold, everything.

Speaker 1 TST is like very, this has become a very

Speaker 1 well, we were only there last year. Yeah, so it's not too crazy.
But CONCAFA Concafa is going to become a mainstay in TST, I think.

Speaker 1 Especially if we have the success that I think we're going to have this year.

Speaker 1 Look at Meat.

Speaker 1 I mean, just look at the eyes of meet. Meet saying, oh, there's a million dollar prize up for grabs.
Okay. Shut your mouth, JJ.

Speaker 1 Shut your mouth, JJ. You remember Zach night? You remember fucking bumping into him a couple times? I do.
Shoulder still hurts. Yeah, you still got a little bruise like I do against Gunther.

Speaker 1 You guys are watching from the sidelines. Yeah, that's because we're part of the fucking arena.

Speaker 1 Man in the arena. Did you have any assists last year?

Speaker 1 No. Did you have any goals last year? No.
Oh, so you left with completely zero on the stat sheet? Yep. Okay, sweet.
I had the highlight of the fucking tournament with the assist that I had.

Speaker 1 You talk about man in the arena. I agree with that.
I was in the arena. I agree with that.
I do. Yeah, so check that off the box.
I was talking about Mullen Man over there.

Speaker 1 He was in the trenches with the boys.

Speaker 4 You were part of the fucking concave of crazy things.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Yeah, equipment managers, athletic trainers.
There's a lot of people that go into the success of a team they're part of that

Speaker 1 yeah you caught him a fat ass actually yeah remember

Speaker 1 he was let's get kind of going back that way but it's whoa whoa

Speaker 1 what the hell no he's done it great

Speaker 1 maybe you should hang out with tone and get on some

Speaker 1 good idea not a bad idea

Speaker 1 Baustina be careful

Speaker 1 next week. I mean, that donut cart's going to be there again, bro.
I'm going to be outside.

Speaker 4 I can't wait to enjoy it.

Speaker 1 I didn't get a chance to enjoy it last year. It looked great.
Good coffee. It did look good.

Speaker 1 I'm going to have, just so everybody knows, I will have cleats on. I will have a uniform on, just in case.
We start losing guys. Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop.
We're up 780.

Speaker 1 You got plenty of them. That graphic, I keep staring at it.
That's a lot of fucking stuff. That's a lot of fun.

Speaker 6 How many guys on at once?

Speaker 1 So you're a lot 20 on the roster.

Speaker 6 Okay. On the field, 7v7?

Speaker 6 7.

Speaker 1 I can't wait.

Speaker 1 You can't even do that. It's 20 minutes running clock.
We ran out of of gas last year, brother.

Speaker 7 You ever seen Muddy Ducks? Full line changes.

Speaker 4 The Wednesday night changed

Speaker 1 movie of all time, D2.

Speaker 1 Well said.

Speaker 1 Did you ever see it? Some of these people say that you have not seen the movies that you promote as if you've seen.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. What are you talking about? I'm the opposite.
I tell people that I openly there's movies that I haven't seen that I should have seen. What are some movies you should have seen?

Speaker 4 Mission.

Speaker 1 Braveheart. What? You've never seen Braveheart?

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 staying in Private Ryan. What? Wow.
I know. I'm telling you.
These are on my list. I got to get them.
How long have they been on your list? Sounds like this is a good thing. It's a long time.

Speaker 1 It is a long time. So you're just keeping this as a thing so you can.

Speaker 1 Like, hey, what's my movie thing?

Speaker 1 There was a while where I was like, all right, I will save Braveheart now for a big game. And then I didn't because I'm there.
I got to watch it.

Speaker 1 I'm watching Game of Thrones right now for the first time all the way through. How is it? Really good.
What season are you on? Last one. Wow.

Speaker 1 Congratulations. It's really good.
There was one bad season in there, but the rest really bad. I heard the last season's a bad one.
The Starbucks. The ending is really bad.
That's what I've heard.

Speaker 4 I'm pretty sure the last season has aged better than the initial reaction.

Speaker 1 Everybody at the beginning was just calling this writer sellouts and everything, saying they mailed it in. There's Starbucks cops here and this is happening.

Speaker 4 That stuff, yes.

Speaker 1 I've heard the last episode, like, I've heard people call the last episode one of the worst episodes.

Speaker 1 I think that's a little overblown.

Speaker 2 In the time, for sure. And it also doesn't help that the fatso who wrote the thing, you know, just kind of keeps pushing off how it's supposed to end.

Speaker 2 So these guys were like, hey, well, okay, we got to end it how we're going to end it there.

Speaker 1 I'm looking forward to it. We're close.
We're close. Wow, is that with george r r martin you know this guy every single year he's like

Speaker 1 the books could be finished in six months and then they check in they're like hey fatso you haven't written anything in the last 18 months so is it still coming out in six months and well you know i had to go back and alter a few scenes well there's like a thousand characters right yeah but

Speaker 1 you know when the last book came out in like 1998 yeah yes he got paid mightily and hey you want me to tie this whole thing together huh okay you know how much more money he'd make make if he just finished the goddamn thing i'm definitely in that stage right now where all of a sudden all the characters are interacting with each other holy shit you guys came together quick yeah i just did breaking bad and better skull salt oh yeah great shows great great shows and the problem is george r martin did this uh video game elden ring he did like the story design for it and people aren't happy about like him doing shit like that before finishing what's this guy's problem he wants to focus on something else that's massively successful that's what i'm saying it what i mean Elden Ring is like one of the biggest video games of all time.

Speaker 1 Boom. So.
Elden Ring? Yeah. You play video games? Hashtag Ash Stage? Oh,

Speaker 1 no.

Speaker 1 Me no. No.
I don't watch any of the stuff we were talking about either.

Speaker 4 Better Call Saw and Breaking Bad.

Speaker 1 They're very good.

Speaker 4 Breaking Bad, I think, is a great show of all time. Then Better Call Saw is a pretty cool.

Speaker 1 Yes. Really awesome.
It's really better than Save by the Bill.

Speaker 1 Well, different genre. Different genre.

Speaker 8 Save by the Bill is right there, but different genre.

Speaker 1 That's a good point. I saw somebody the other day say we we need to bring shows like that back.
I think it was Nate Bargatzi. He was talking about how, like, we need shows like King of Queens.

Speaker 1 We need some of those just like

Speaker 1 everyday sitcoms that you just watch and feel good. Why doesn't Bargatzi write it? I feel like he's the genius.
I think he might be.

Speaker 1 I think he was talking about his production company and the type of stuff he wants to put. He's so smart.
He's great. Nate's awesome.

Speaker 6 Tom Segur just put that out. Tom Sagur just put four episodes out that are good, old, wholesome, fun, like old school.

Speaker 1 You're talking about bad thoughts? Yeah. Yeah.
I don't know if that's how it's being marketed.

Speaker 1 I had to talk about it on Monday Night Raw because Mystic Rick and the machine were there right behind the desk. What a moment.
What a moment for it all.

Speaker 1 Dragon Lee fucking dives front flip out of the ring all the way across our desk. And you just see Tom Segur's eyes just like, what the fuck? It was his first ever.
wrestling

Speaker 1 event ever yeah because he used to be anti-wrestling big time and then that was his first wrestling event and uh i think he was just mind-blown by it all i think tom cigar people like that whenever you get have you ever been to a live no i was just gonna to say, I want to come to one.

Speaker 1 When you get to one and you watch it, you just think to yourself,

Speaker 1 Curve Street. This is the most absurd.
Should I start with the WrestleMania or should I start with a

Speaker 1 introduction? Is there an introduction?

Speaker 2 You start with WrestleMania. You fucking start with WrestleMania.
All right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you won't know all the stories going in, but they'll show you a video package. It'll give you at least enough of like a catch-up, and then you'll be able to get right into it.
Just the app.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Obviously, the athleticism is insane.
The things that they're doing right in front of you is wild, completely exposed by so many people. Like what they're doing is insane.
Can't miss a beat.

Speaker 1 Somebody could potentially die. But then all the shit that's just happened or it's insane.

Speaker 1 Kirk. You got to take it for what it is.
It's professional wrestling. You're watching sports entertainment here.
You just kind of got to escape a little bit. Kirk Carpenter, yeah.

Speaker 1 Kirk Carpenter went to WrestleMania and his face the whole time was

Speaker 1 legit. He was sitting right over here.
I could literally see it. And just then he would look over at me.

Speaker 1 It's like, yeah, dude, this is just, this is going to happen. This is the whole time.
You need to get to one. Yeah, I want to see see it.

Speaker 1 I sat with Triple H at the Arnold Classic years back and like tried to get into it, but I have never, I've never gotten into it. I think it's partially because I've never seen it live.

Speaker 1 I think seeing it live and understanding, I still have that whole thing in my head of like,

Speaker 1 I don't want to say it out loud, but like, what?

Speaker 1 I mean, I just, I have that in my head, so I just don't.

Speaker 1 That it hurts, that you don't want to do it, that you get bruised for two, three weeks. I don't doubt that it hurts.
I don't doubt that there's a lot going on there.

Speaker 1 I'm just telling you what I, from my perspective on it. Yeah, I'm just saying, I don't know what your perspective is.
What you're

Speaker 1 alluding to.

Speaker 13 Trying to be negative about everything.

Speaker 1 I'm not being negative about it. I want to go see it.
I want to experience it. I'll be negative about Concafo.
I mean, you guys get a six to one.

Speaker 13 What's your deal, dude?

Speaker 1 Yeah, so you should just honor your kings.

Speaker 1 We're in Premier League, brother. You're down in the whatchamacallit.

Speaker 13 We're back on our perch.

Speaker 4 What's your thing that you can't get over?

Speaker 1 I don't understand.

Speaker 1 It's not real. What?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Dump that, please. It is real.

Speaker 1 Those who are great are rewarded. Yeah, no doubt.
Okay.

Speaker 13 You ever heard of Hulk Hogan, brother?

Speaker 1 I sure have.

Speaker 1 I know that.

Speaker 1 I never watched it growing up. But I know all about Hulk Hogan.
WCW. You tell me this ain't real? Watch Dragon Leader with Chad Gable, brother.
Boom.

Speaker 1 Boom.

Speaker 1 Jeez. Right in front of Mystic Rick and a machine.

Speaker 1 No doubt it fucking hurts. No doubt.
You know what? You're squatting 465, 6'6, still look good. Why don't you just go find out if it's what you think it is?

Speaker 1 No, that's why I didn't do it.

Speaker 1 Why don't you? When I retired, people were like, you should do something like WWE. And I was like, that's just as difficult on your body.
Why the fuck would I want to do that?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you could be good, though, at it, because especially whenever you put those thirst trap photos out there, that's really good for business.

Speaker 8 Yeah,

Speaker 1 maybe. I mean, who knows?

Speaker 4 Haven't seen him take a chop, you know.

Speaker 1 Yeah, from Guther, you think you can handle one of those?

Speaker 1 Go back to the peanut gallery. All right.
Just stay in your lane. I'm just saying.
Do you think you can handle handle a chop from Goodner, Pal?

Speaker 4 I've trained in the square circle, baby.

Speaker 1 Okay. I've been in there.
We could go see if you could take a chop. I bought that.
Oh, we've seen it.

Speaker 4 I've taken a kendo stick too, brother.

Speaker 1 Just a candlestick? Kendo.

Speaker 1 What's that?

Speaker 1 Let's get back to this thing. I'm so disgusted.
Let's go to hashtag Ash J. It's from Sweet Cavi.
Sweet Cavi's disappointed with you, JJ.

Speaker 4 I can't believe you said that.

Speaker 1 Hashtag Ash J. Whispered it.
Your thoughts on how teams stopped the tush push.

Speaker 1 Also, your thoughts on if it should be banned banned since the Eagles and Buffalo Bills are the only ones that are good at it.

Speaker 1 Well, the Bills got stopped on it in the playoffs. Yes.

Speaker 1 Massive moment.

Speaker 1 But I don't think it should be banned. I mean, if you're good at something, you shouldn't be punished for it.
I do, if you want to take the push part of it away, like,

Speaker 1 I don't know. I just

Speaker 1 think they're indifferent. It's not like they're great at it.
Don't punish them for being great at it.

Speaker 1 The thing that I'm most impressed by, hands down, as a player, is that their offensive line manages to stay on side every single time.

Speaker 1 Because as you're out there on the field, you're for sure they're offside. You're like, there's no way that they're on side, but they are all lined up perfectly.
They time it up perfectly.

Speaker 1 They're incredible at it. The defensive teams often, almost every single time, are offside.
You can watch that clip right there, the overhead shot. They're lined up offside.

Speaker 1 The defense is actually the one technically wrong every time if you watch it, which is wild. Yeah, and you still can't stop it.
Jalen Hurts. How do you stop? Yeah.

Speaker 1 You don't. Like, that's, I've been on teams where we played the Eagles while they were tush pushing and people are like, how do you stop? I'm like, you can't.

Speaker 1 Like, you could lay a guy down on the ground to try and stop him low. You could put a guy over the top and try and stop him high, but they know the snap count.
You don't.

Speaker 1 So they have the one advantage that you can't have, and they're going to win. Age, how would you stop it?

Speaker 6 You got to find a way to get like two guys at the point get an absolute jump and just almost hit the ball as it's being snapped to like to stop all the momentum, but then they're still going to get pushed.

Speaker 6 So I honestly don't really know.

Speaker 1 They were doing hard counts in the Super Bowl, right? Or

Speaker 1 NFC Championship.

Speaker 1 They were doing hard counts. And it's like, once you add hard counts into it, completely screwed.
It's not stopped. Yeah, I think it's just unstoppable.

Speaker 1 I believe it hasn't

Speaker 1 been you got to just put the big dogs like as big as you got. Yeah, but I don't know how many Vita Veas are out there.
No, they got the guy from Florida, yeah.

Speaker 4 Who's 430 pounds? So he came in Vita Veya. Like, that might be the only way to consistently stop it is get two dudes who are over 400 pounds.

Speaker 1 But I don't even know, like, if you ask the Eagles, if you ask Jason Keller, you ask somebody, I don't know if they would give you an answer on how to stop it.

Speaker 1 I don't think he, I literally don't know. I think he might say there's nothing you can really do.
Have you seen how good your hair looks up there on that? I'm not sure on it. It looks really

Speaker 1 love. Like, there's way too much hype going on it.
Foxy, Foxy, let's get a little. It's bad.
Can we get a little zoom on it? No, no, no. Touch it.
It's good.

Speaker 4 The more you touch it, the worse you get.

Speaker 1 No, no, I disagree. It's supposed to be.
I think your hair is supposed to be.

Speaker 4 But it's flowing.

Speaker 2 You can do that.

Speaker 1 Look at that. It looks good, dude.
Great volume. JJ,

Speaker 1 JJ, that's good hair.

Speaker 1 Maybe a little straight out of a hat yeah but maybe fade on the side you can still do the fade too on a side this guy a pantene pro v commercial yeah that's right herbal essences yeah yeah

Speaker 1 i feel like we're at a point in the show that we have no we gotta it's good you a head and shoulders guy let's hear the last question here for ask jade shall we i don't like how negative you've been about everything your hair included your hair is awesome gumpy what's this all about has you been drinking out of your poutine back there i've been pretty i've been pretty positive today to be fair i agree i thought it was going to be super positive with jj in the building, but I guess not.

Speaker 1 I'm having a blast.

Speaker 13 Me, too. I'd be having a better place.
This is the coolest place.

Speaker 1 Like, you guys are living it. This is awesome.
Superstar Wednesday, too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yep. Let's get to the last Ash J.

Speaker 1 This is K Smitty, 1734.

Speaker 1 Long time ago, Jage. Pay your respects.
Hashtag Ash Jage. What are your thoughts about Mission Impossible, the final reckoning? And could you do the stunts? You think six foot six, 200, and

Speaker 1 75.

Speaker 1 Just an absolute free son of a beach. 6, 6, 2, 7, 5, hanging off the wing.
What are your thoughts? No, I think Tom's unbelievable. Did you watch The Final Mission? Not yet.

Speaker 1 I saw some of your guys' interview. That's awesome.
That was really cool. Yeah, it was.
I mean,

Speaker 1 I have so much respect for somebody who commits to being the best at what they do and truly follows through with it every single time. And he has clearly done that.
And he has...

Speaker 1 He holds his industry and he holds everybody in it to the level that he

Speaker 1 expects it to be at and he lives up to that every single time. I mean, the shit he does is unbelievable.
It's insane.

Speaker 1 And I, even though he shows us how it's done, even though they show us all the takes, like, I don't think anybody truly understands.

Speaker 1 And to your point about not having to put yourself out there, like we talked about working out with the SEALs or whatever. He has zero reason whatsoever to be hanging off the side of a plane.

Speaker 1 He has zero reason to be climbing up a building, yet he continues to do it because he feels an obligation. I mean, Tom Cruise is insane.
62 years old, too.

Speaker 1 He's committing seven days a a week. He's constantly thinking about movies.
How can I get better? What can I get better? Seven days a week. It never stops.
I'm always on. Unreal.

Speaker 1 62, he's going to do that till he dies. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Every day of his life, he's going to wake up. How can I make a better movie? How can I make a movie? Thank God.
It's like he found his, he found his calling and he is fully committed to it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's just, I mean, his energy seems incredible. Like he just, I mean, and you talk to people around him and they're like, when you're around him, he just, you feel a different aura.

Speaker 1 You feel a different energy. You want to be better to be around him.
It's, it's special.

Speaker 1 Will you watch, have you you watched all the mission impossibles no i haven't you have not watched all the mission impossibles oh my god it's disgusting any of them i mean i no i haven't seen any of them you don't know ethan hunt crazy man any of them that's crazy we'll have a moment of silence for jj wadd not having a clue what the he's talking about

Speaker 1 you watched talk gun maverick i'm trying yeah i did i'm trying to get where you heard that i'm talking about movies why would i lie about that that's a weird wear those t-shirts and you always say like that's a super cool throwback thing.

Speaker 1 I only wear ones that I've actually watched. The office.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 American Made.

Speaker 2 American Made. That's another TC classic.

Speaker 6 Great one. Based on true story.
Cocktail is a good one from AJ.

Speaker 1 Did you ever see that?

Speaker 1 Sherry McQuire. Magnoia is an under the radar one.
Yep. And Arizona has not changed since that movie.

Speaker 4 Born on the 4th of July. Yep.

Speaker 1 Risky business.

Speaker 1 12 billion at the box office. You've seen nothing.

Speaker 1 I've seen some. I've seen both top guns.
Collateral.

Speaker 1 Is he bringing a fat guy back? Less. Less gross.

Speaker 1 They might, yeah. Was this the last?

Speaker 2 Mission possible, yeah.

Speaker 1 No, it's called the final reckoning. Final reckoning.

Speaker 4 You're just going to have to see them all to find out.

Speaker 1 How many of them are there? Eight.

Speaker 6 You can watch those.

Speaker 1 I'll do it for. I'll do it.

Speaker 4 They're so good. Do it for Tom.

Speaker 1 Do it for what? Tom. For the good of the industry?

Speaker 1 See at the movies. Maybe you should rent out a movie theater to watch all eight of them straight through.
Oh, I'll come. Yeah, so

Speaker 1 it's high.

Speaker 1 That would take

Speaker 4 20 hours. Yeah, greatest day of your life.
Yeah, it would say.

Speaker 2 He's probably going to be a good day.

Speaker 1 That'd be a great day. That would be a

Speaker 1 fun. A lot of popcorn.
A lot of popcorn. I love that.
Was he eating that popcorn or what? Yes, absolutely. Still oh.
The reason he dropped that one was because he hit the bucket.

Speaker 1 It didn't drop out of his hand. Yeah, the bucket spilled.
But that could have been the gimmick to make it look like there's popcorn in there.

Speaker 1 That shit was cool. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like the fucking

Speaker 4 throwing the dice.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Imagine him on a crabs table.
Imagine a night

Speaker 1 crabs.

Speaker 1 He's probably running on top of it, if I had to guess. Stands on top of the

Speaker 1 bottom.

Speaker 1 Before he throws it, he's just saying. Think about how much popcorn he's had to eat to be that comfortable with the fucking.

Speaker 1 What's going on, boys? Boom. He's watching somebody else's movie.

Speaker 1 Shut up and watch the film. He watches a movie a day.
Is that what he said? Yeah. Yeah.
Big on popcorn. Two bucks.
He loves the fiber in it. He said.
Too big buck. He said that, Dot?

Speaker 1 He said he loves the fiber and popcorn. He did.
Some popcorn salt. He said it toss?

Speaker 1 I don't know if it was you, but I I mean, that was his popcorn take. He was like, I can't eat a lot of things, but I can eat a lot of popcorn.
It's got fiber. It's healthy.
Makes you good.

Speaker 4 I saw he's got a great Daffy Duck impression. Really? Yeah, I saw it yesterday for the first time after the Pacers came.
I was just going through stuff. The algorithm?

Speaker 4 Yeah, and the algo fed me this unbelievable.

Speaker 1 I haven't got to Daffy Duck Tom Cruise yet, but they've sent me all of his stunts in my algo. Shout out to my algorithm.
Yeah. A lot of Tom Cruise in the algo.
Right.

Speaker 1 You might be Tom Cruise someday, JJ. You don't know.

Speaker 1 Number two analyst analyst for CBS this year on NFL games. And, you know, in the future, you might be Tom, might be the next Tom Cruise.

Speaker 2 No, it's nothing against you.

Speaker 1 There's never going to be anyone who's like fucking TC.

Speaker 2 You know, we're talking about Mission Impossible. And, yeah, he's doing some sweet stuff.

Speaker 1 That is a Mission Impossible.

Speaker 2 It is. In a couple of years, this guy is going to be the first one.

Speaker 1 The first Glenn Powell?

Speaker 2 Yes and no.

Speaker 2 We're still the jerks

Speaker 1 in that. We like Glenn Powell.
I love Glenn Powell. Yeah, I mean, no question.
Great.

Speaker 2 TC is going to fucking do a spacewalk. He's going to space.
That's his next big-time stunt. Actually, going.
Yes, he's going to be the first civilian.

Speaker 4 To do a movie, right?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 2 To actually do a spacewalk.

Speaker 1 A spacewalk that's outside the space.

Speaker 2 Correct. I believe he's going up to the International Space Station for a movie that he's shooting, and that's going to be.

Speaker 1 So that's going to be a cold open of him fucking

Speaker 1 outside of that. Fixing the Hubble telescope.
With the Earth behind. Yeah.
With Earth behind. And he's going to get knocked loose or something.
And he's going to come back in. Who's going to film it?

Speaker 1 Fucking

Speaker 2 I've been thinking about that quite a bit. I don't know how many like directors of photography are signing up for like McHugh!

Speaker 1 No, no, no. Do you see McHugh when they're

Speaker 1 that's my thing? That's he'll he'll mount the camera is my guess.

Speaker 2 That is probably what they'll end up doing because I don't think anyone's signing up to be like, yeah, I'll go fucking walk in space with you.

Speaker 1 Or do you just teach an astronaut? That's what I think. I think you have an astronaut maybe holding the handheld.
Maybe that's it. I mean, these guys are getting stuck up there.
I mean, what are they?

Speaker 1 You're going to have TC getting stuck up there for a year?

Speaker 1 That's the same thing.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. He would just jump.

Speaker 2 Yeah, TC would just be able to pilot back or swim back. He would swim back.

Speaker 1 You're right.

Speaker 1 All the way.

Speaker 1 Through the atmosphere.

Speaker 2 Yeah, until he gets to the outer ring of the ozone, and then he could just tuck and go right into the closest ocean.

Speaker 1 He'd wait for Earth to spin him. Yeah, exactly.
He'd swim to a spot where he'd get comfortable, wait for Earth to spin, and then boom, that's where I wanted up. Mediterranean.
Mediterranean.

Speaker 7 Pick up speed, and then he's just puffing.

Speaker 1 They'd come out riding a dolphin for sure.

Speaker 1 The Q would be right behind him the whole time. I got it.
I got it.

Speaker 1 Space Station, they have a satellite up there, right? Yeah. So you can probably set up a PTZ if I had to guess, right?

Speaker 2 Tom, you ain't fucking filming with a PTZ.

Speaker 1 Are you kidding me? You don't think they put a PTZ outside the fucking

Speaker 2 space station? Tom's going to look at that one second. That quality shit.
I'm not doing that for a fucking. This is not good.

Speaker 1 You're telling me they don't have an AK PTZ?

Speaker 2 It'll be like an IMAX camera, probably.

Speaker 2 It'll be the only kind of camera that it'll be specifically made for them to go down.

Speaker 6 He's inventing it.

Speaker 1 I bet he's inventing the cameras that he was using. Without a doubt.
Good job, Adrian. That cold open of him.

Speaker 1 Messing around on the outside of the space station whistling probably. Yeah, I hope it's not a cold open because I hope we see him piloting the fucking rocket ship off the launch pad up.

Speaker 1 Oh, to get up there.

Speaker 2 Because he's going to do that as well.

Speaker 1 That's later. The cold open's a throwback.
Could be. Could be.
Start with

Speaker 1 Howard Cooking. Tom's already thought of all this.
We shouldn't even act like we know what the fuck's going on. Yeah, he knows.
It's going to be amazing. He's going to be walking outside

Speaker 1 with his own camera. Yep.
What if it's on one of those sticks that he does?

Speaker 1 Yeah, like a...

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. Could be.

Speaker 4 Those cameras that just shoot.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so he films himself there. Maybe it's on the glasses that have the camera.
Meta.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, because he couldn't film himself. He might go to Mars.
He might go to Mars. He's holding a mannequin.
He's holding the mannequin up with his glasses. Yep, yep.
That could be it.

Speaker 1 That could be it. You know,

Speaker 1 he could put a camera on the American flagpole that's on the moon. You could just do a moon walk.
Let's not get into that. Yeah, it ain't a good idea.
That's definitely what he can do.

Speaker 4 That's a good idea.

Speaker 4 Yeah, because if he does that, that means he never left Earth.

Speaker 1 You know, JJ, think about this.

Speaker 1 The moon is

Speaker 1 rest in peace, Jimercy.

Speaker 1 The moon is 250,000 miles away. Okay.

Speaker 1 Mars

Speaker 1 250 million miles away.

Speaker 1 I saw Elon tweet that we could get to Mars in six months if the planets are lined up at the right thing is the projection in the future.

Speaker 1 Whenever we are inevitably traveling to these places on a regular basis, it seems like that's going to happen at some point. Are you going to sign up to do one of those or no?

Speaker 1 Not first. Would you go to the moon if you're offered to go to the moon?

Speaker 1 If

Speaker 1 5,000 people people went before me.

Speaker 1 I need some assurance that that's. That's pretty solid.
How many people have gone to the moon? A whole bunch.

Speaker 1 A whole bunch of nothing. What are you talking about? I don't think you want to get into that.
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 I mean, we're definitely going down a road here. My current guess is that.
We never lay an eye on the moon.

Speaker 2 That's what that's what we're talking about.

Speaker 1 I know. I mean, clearly we know where you stay.
It's a fact.

Speaker 1 How many claims?

Speaker 4 It is a thousand percent fact that we never went to the moon.

Speaker 1 How many people would have to keep a secret? That would be a a wild secret to keep. But once again, you know, with the technology advances, there's a chance they could have faked that.
What is real?

Speaker 1 Nothing's real. I like to think we went to the moon.

Speaker 1 Did you go?

Speaker 1 Same thing with you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, gotta go. I need to see others do it.
That's like in your... You bought a plane? No.

Speaker 1 You bought two planes? Nope. Okay.

Speaker 1 Why would you guys want to go?

Speaker 1 Just because? Yeah, I mean. Just to be like

Speaker 1 hang out. You got experience.
12 people have walked on Earth's moon, says Wikipedia. The first one was obviously Neil Armstrong, and the last one was Eugene Cernan.

Speaker 1 All crewed moon landings took place between 1969 and 1972 as part of the United States Apollo.

Speaker 13 So 12 people did it, and then we just stopped.

Speaker 1 Correct. Yeah.
Shut it down. Check the box, brother.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's bullshit.

Speaker 1 Never happens. There's people that feel that way.

Speaker 4 I hate, and I didn't feel this way until I learned that they made a call.

Speaker 1 They made a call?

Speaker 4 From the Oval Office all the way to the moon.

Speaker 4 In 1969.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's tough for me to call my wife. She's right down the road.

Speaker 4 And what fucking world is that possible?

Speaker 1 Not this one. This one right here.

Speaker 1 You look at the space station. Then you look in.
You FaceTime with the space station? Yeah. What'd you say? Hey, team, how are we doing? Yeah, just checking in twice.
I've done it. Yeah, a little.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's Houston. We have a problem.
Yeah, once was from the facility, which was really cool. And then once was from the space, from NASA.

Speaker 1 Big delay? No, but how was the... Little delay.
There was a little delay. I'm trying to remember why the first one was because we did it from the stadium.

Speaker 1 I think it was, I don't know if it was during the Hurdle.

Speaker 1 There was something. That's awesome.
Hold on one second.

Speaker 1 Because we were going to try to put a request in for the two astronauts that were stuck in space or whatever to join the show. It feels like they do

Speaker 1 interaction with Earth. Yeah, they definitely do interaction.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't be first on the list for them to call if they didn't. How long was your conversation with them?

Speaker 1 The one was when I was at NASA, it was just like, hey, how's it going? But then the one at the stadium, that was like a good five, ten minutes.

Speaker 1 We got to ask them some questions, and they showed us around a little bit. It was really cool.
What did they do? Show you water floating around? Yeah, like all the, you know, little.

Speaker 1 So you basically said, dance, dance.

Speaker 1 I mean, I'm going to do it. Do the thing.

Speaker 1 Do the anti-gravity thing.

Speaker 4 And they did it back. That was great.

Speaker 1 It was really cool.

Speaker 1 I felt cool. Yeah.
Do the they tell you to do the watt thing?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 No, I don't want to. I didn't want to embarrass myself or them or waste our airspace from between here and the moon.

Speaker 1 I guess they weren't on the moon. It's a lot.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Who was in the space station? Oh, okay.
I thought you were joining us. They see 13 sunrises in one day.

Speaker 1 I think that's the only thing.

Speaker 1 The space station says that?

Speaker 6 I think so.

Speaker 1 Isn't that the number? They see like 13 sunrises in one day.

Speaker 4 Why would they still be up there not go to the moon?

Speaker 1 Because they're doing research up there, bud. What are they going to do there? On space.

Speaker 7 We don't need to go to the moon. We already got all the fucking soil samples 50 years ago.

Speaker 8 What else is there?

Speaker 4 Oh, nothing to do.

Speaker 1 1969, 1972. We already figured it out.
Exactly. You know why we went to the moon?

Speaker 2 Because we were trying to win the fucking space race, and we won.

Speaker 1 Congrats to us. Ball game over.
Woo! Suck my dick, Russia.

Speaker 2 That's exactly what we said. And that was the end of it.

Speaker 1 All right. And we haven't had to go back.
I'm all for that, man.

Speaker 4 I just don't think it happened.

Speaker 1 We got our ratings for our four right there. Yeah, we got to get out of here.
It's been a good day. Wanted to celebrate this Pacers next game in proper fashion.
I think we did that. I think so, too.

Speaker 1 We want to talk about the Dallas Stars potentially being dead. I think we talked about that.
We got a chance. What do you think? What do you think? We're not dead.

Speaker 13 Stuart Skinner has to turn to a pumpkin. He's been playing like Dominic Hassock.
It's blown my fucking mind.

Speaker 1 He's back to former. Guy's shite.
Been shite all year. Oh, the guy who's up 3-1 on the Dallas Stars is shite.
Okay. In the Western Conference finals.
Okay, got it.

Speaker 13 I mean, he got pulled like he lost his starting job during these playoffs, and the other guy got hurt. It's the only reason he got back in the net.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and guess who got a swagger back?

Speaker 13 Yeah, he's good right now, but he has sucked at some point.

Speaker 4 Feels like it might be Mick Jesus' year.

Speaker 1 Mick Jesus versus the Panthers. Stanley Cup final.

Speaker 13 Zach Hyman's out.

Speaker 13 Yeah, Oilers got no shot against the Cats if they get there.

Speaker 1 Oilers are currently... Tied with the Florida Panthers.
Wow. For the odds-on favorite.
I like the Panthers a lot. Not because I don't don't like Canada and I don't like seeing Canada have a team win.

Speaker 1 That would be cool to continue the trend, though, of American teams winning. We will, man.
We will.

Speaker 1 Thank you to the Florida Panthers and the state of Florida over the last like five years. And Marshi.
Really holding it down for us.

Speaker 1 And Marshi, obviously, taking a trip down to Florida, making that happen. But McGee's winning would be very cool.
But this Panthers team just feels like the right. They just got the right.

Speaker 4 I like to cut it there, Jim.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so much physicality.

Speaker 1 So much physicality.

Speaker 3 Got some guys back, too, tonight. Rhino's back.

Speaker 1 really?

Speaker 1 Greer's back. Whoa.
Cole is back. Whoa.
Star's got a lot of physicality, too, and Oilers are giving it to him. Yeah, it's because McJesus can just dance on that ice.
He's just dancing on that ice.

Speaker 13 The guys take fucking cheap shots too, whacking our guys' feet and trying to break them, too. I mean, let's, you know,

Speaker 13 I'm about done with it, all right? The Oilers just do stupid shit, and everybody says it's playoff hockey. It's okay.
It's cheap shots, all right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, but Edmonton's doing it. It's a great city.

Speaker 13 Is it?

Speaker 1 Do it back. Why aren't the boys doing it, Company?

Speaker 13 We did. We actually knocked two guys out last game, so

Speaker 13 cheap shots or no, they were great hits.

Speaker 1 Just laid on it.

Speaker 1 It was just hockey. Yeah, you were saying it's hockey.
Funny how I was. I just play off hockey.
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 That's what I was told. Edmonton, though, good town, I heard.
Is it?

Speaker 1 That's what I've been told. That's where I've heard that.

Speaker 1 Or the ice, if you will. I've heard that.
Across the ponds. Uh-huh.
Had the double-double there, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they invented the double double. They did not seriously drop the double double.

Speaker 1 Edmonton invented Timmy Horton. I did so.

Speaker 1 We have video of JJ Watt down there at NASA. This is him practicing space.
Sweet. It's only a matter of time before this is the real deal, and he does have a hockey helmet on.

Speaker 1 Oh, dance.

Speaker 4 I'm back down there and practice space for a bit.

Speaker 1 I'll be back later.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's neat. Yeah,

Speaker 1 it was cool.

Speaker 1 It was cool.

Speaker 1 I did not know what to expect. And NASA is a cool.
I mean, so they said, we got one triple XL fucking helmet.

Speaker 1 Okay, we got JJ. Well, let's loosen the straps a little bit.

Speaker 1 What was the mission? The spacewalk? I don't remember.

Speaker 1 Is this what Tom Cruise is doing? You don't remember what this is?

Speaker 1 I remember doing it. I don't remember what my goal was.
Your mission?

Speaker 1 I think I was just experiencing anti-gravity.

Speaker 4 That's why I'll never be TC.

Speaker 1 How'd you feel? They had your feet locked up too? Yeah, you got everything locked up.

Speaker 6 Oh, that's scary.

Speaker 1 Look like a gray. Everything.
If they pull the wrong button, you're going a couple different directions there.

Speaker 1 What's his name? Christian Gray?

Speaker 4 10 cents of space, man.

Speaker 1 That is unbelievable. There's a lot going on.
How long were you up there for? Not that long.

Speaker 1 Thank you for your service. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I literally was vulnerable. Why do they have your ankles? Like, that's the situation.
Because if they were hanging, then you're not anti-gravity. You know, I did the

Speaker 1 three, two, one, fly at Kenny Oh, yeah, me too. It was the

Speaker 1 What did they call it?

Speaker 6 The sky swingshot thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the sky coast thing. Oh, yeah.
And they put us in a little bat suit, and the legs were certainly kind of attached in the back there. You feel like they're in control completely.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's kind of where you were doing there. You ever do the like the sky zone where you fly over the like you it's like skydiving, but indoors? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Somebody turns that fan off when you're in, you're fucked. Did you enjoy that? You were able to do that 66275? Yeah.
Did it with some Navy SEALs. It was awesome.
And you're,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 4 Did you do any flips?

Speaker 1 No, I was not trying anything but staying afloat. Those guys can do some really cool shit.
You go, Scott. I don't like, like, I'm, like you said, I'm a big guy.

Speaker 1 So you start to get off the ground and you start to put yourself in some weird places. Break your fucking neck.
Yeah. Do you think people underestimate how big you are until they see you in real life?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Definitely.
I think so. You're obnoxiously large.

Speaker 1 I can definitely tell, like, I can tell at times, like, if I'm bigger from working out or if I'm haven't been working out as intensely like people react differently based on if you're like all like if I'm fully jacked up like it's much much different full strapped up yeah they say holy shit look at this thing and then whenever you're yeah you're meeting flopping around they're not really that impressive

Speaker 1 I'm trying to lose like I need to let myself lose some weight I feel a lot better when I'm lighter my body my joints but you need to get 465 on that back three times on a ton I mean when you're in the gym I'm in the gym yesterday

Speaker 1 and I got I got there's like four or five people there like I can't just do do 225. Like, I gotta.
No, you can't. Dude, it's an audience of one.
Always has been, always will be. God.
God bless you.

Speaker 1 He wants to see it. Like, why wouldn't he want to see it? Or she, Jesus.

Speaker 4 He knows it.

Speaker 1 Or Jesus. I don't know.
Sometimes you need something. Like, you got to have something.
It's fine. How often does the weight room here get used? Very often in the morning.
Boys are in there.

Speaker 1 Do you chug pre-workout? No, I don't do pre-workout.

Speaker 1 You used to. Creatine? Yeah, I do creatine.
I do post-workout. All my stuff's post-written.
Creatine, BCAs, collagen, trambolone trambology

Speaker 1 would love to see what's possible there would love to see what's possible why don't you

Speaker 1 come on just turn into a full science project that can go wrong there's a lot of i will watch we talked about those olympics yeah people that will i will absolutely watch oh the enhanced games can't wait to see that the super duper oh yeah when when's that happen i think it's this next

Speaker 1 i see some stuff popping up about it i saw one guy that's gonna be awesome there's been some projections on the amount of muscles that are torn at that particular event it's gonna be more than any event in the history of events but i'll tell you what they're gonna going to lay it on the line for us.

Speaker 1 Those shop put balls are going to go further than ever.

Speaker 1 I can't wait. That's going to be so powerful.
That could be you. No.

Speaker 1 Could be, though. Could be.
All right, Jake. We appreciate you.
Good luck this fall. Thanks for stopping by at a nowhere.
Thank you guys. This is awesome.
This is really, really cool.

Speaker 1 And I also have even more respect for what you guys do on a daily basis. No commercials, everything.
straight through the entertainment. Speak for the fans.

Speaker 1 Thank you very much for the daily entertainment. You guys are great at what you do.
Thanks, Jake. You're a good good guy.
Thank you, Jake. That was very kind of you to say that about us, Jage.

Speaker 1 When you run for president or maybe have your run with the WWE at some point,

Speaker 1 don't forget about us. I'll fly right over your head, Patty Mac.

Speaker 1 Thanks, Jake. Maybe we could tag team.

Speaker 1 I don't do tag team wrestling, brother. Okay.
I don't know how it works anyway.

Speaker 1 Fake.

Speaker 4 You fucking ass.

Speaker 1 You did not need to be doing what you're doing. I understand what you're trying to do.
You're not doing it. I believe it's called a heel.
I think it's called a heat. You're healing.

Speaker 13 You're not fucking healing. You cross the line.

Speaker 1 You're working yourself into a shoot, motherfucker. So you're looking for heat as a heel? Okay, you're looking for heat as a heel? That's what you want? Not fire.
Well, fire would be good heat to get.

Speaker 1 There's levels that says nuclear heat would be good too. But you're getting go-wey heat right now, bro.

Speaker 1 That means they don't even care.

Speaker 4 Newspapers up.

Speaker 1 No pop? No pop. No pop.
You do know a little bit. You know the business, kid.
What's that all about? You've been learning, brother?

Speaker 4 You talked to Bone for a little too long, brother.

Speaker 1 It could all be a work. You never know.
Oh,

Speaker 1 look at this guy.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 Jake, what are you trying to do, brother? For shoot? I mean, Wayne said, everything's a work. Everything.
Every interview.

Speaker 1 Life is a work. Every match, every conversation, anything you've ever seen.
It's all the work. Guys still working out.
Maybe he is trying to get into the biz. He could.

Speaker 1 I might know some people if you want to shake some hands. You have to put on a good front, though.
What you've been doing, not good enough.

Speaker 1 and let's make sure we're swelled up not a bag of milk like you talk about

Speaker 1 thanks for coming out i'll turn the spigot back on

Speaker 1 is that the

Speaker 1 i'm not gonna talk about it

Speaker 1 is that the science the spigot no i did

Speaker 1 why don't we see what you can become me yeah i believe in science yeah

Speaker 6 not all of it like there's not there's stuff i'm like no jack's like he said he hasn't worked out have you ever not worked out though jage like there's no way you ever just haven't lifted for more than a week.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 two weeks, maybe three, but no, I think two weeks. Oh, my God.
Hands down the longest. Three weeks, you didn't work out.
I mean, it's hard. You know how, like, more than a four.

Speaker 1 I mean, no offense, we got a punter on this side. Age, I know we can talk about it.
Kid Mira said that earlier today.

Speaker 1 But, like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 It's an issue.

Speaker 13 I was just in the squared circle with Gunther to ring the other out.

Speaker 1 Toe-to-toe. But

Speaker 1 what you're saying, I think, is very good. I saved a load.
I had a load management joke when you were talking load management, and I saved it. Yeah, my entire career is load management.

Speaker 1 I know, it's beautiful. It's a great thing.
Save some of those shits.

Speaker 1 But no, like, it's, I don't know, maybe your experience is different. You clearly look jacked.
I don't know why he doesn't get as much shit as I get. Oh, he does,

Speaker 1 not like you.

Speaker 6 No, I'm not like, I can't, I'm not big like you. I can't lift his heavier weight.

Speaker 1 What are you talking about? He's joked right now. No, he's flexy like we're doing here.

Speaker 1 D-Bucks gets after him, too. D-Bucks covers it up.
D-Bucks absolutely jacked. Not like that.
I don't know what D-bucks is. D-Bucks can touch the ball.
What's your daily 48-ish

Speaker 6 classic, like old man, workout situation.

Speaker 1 No, we don't know. No, this is the answer we can.
I'm trying to get to that. If I can look like you and not work out as you're

Speaker 1 going to love that.

Speaker 6 Old dude, cardio mixed in, jump off, you know, hit the elliptical hard, or reverse the climb hard, jump off it, you know, hit a couple sets or whatever, get back on, bam.

Speaker 1 So it's hit. So it's just keeping the heart rate high.
Yeah, but I mean, honestly, it's whatever I want.

Speaker 6 I like working out by myself. It's like meditation for me.

Speaker 1 Now, for those that don't know, we actually have a photo of AJ in the weight room.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow. Not me.
That's AJ.

Speaker 1 That was AJ Hawk. You

Speaker 1 know. That was AJ.
You look great. You're still in the middle of the day.
What are the tattoos? I've just signed up.

Speaker 6 What's your tattoos?

Speaker 1 It's JDT, Justin, Derek, Trent, me and my brothers. And then the Chinese symbol underneath.
China? Yeah, it means family or home.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I do not have any direct ties or any

Speaker 1 reason to have a Chinese symbol on my chat. Which photo? I just thought it looked cool.
Is that sunscreen you put on or what'd you put on? Baby oil. No, that's actually legit sweat.

Speaker 1 Sweat? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Where'd that come from?

Speaker 1 But yeah. No, it's did it need to go out to the world? No.

Speaker 1 I think it's a good idea.

Speaker 1 If I took this photo, I'll put it out. No doubt.

Speaker 4 Every morning.

Speaker 3 You jumping on that box?

Speaker 1 Look at those tree trunks.

Speaker 1 Not that one. That one is.
Let's see. We did some box jumps at

Speaker 1 Big Mike. Big Mike.
We did some box jumps the other day. Landing Soft is the ultimate flex.

Speaker 3 Big Mike was getting after it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Big Mike had everything in it. That box actually was 60, so I've done 61 before.
Oh, I've been up there.

Speaker 1 How recent have you been up on top of that 60 inches? I don't do that much anymore. What is 60 inches? 5 feet? 50 feet, yeah.

Speaker 1 Your box jumping out of that? I mean, I did. You're stepping into that? No, no steps.
Zero. Oh, so you can dunk.
You're jumping on top of a five-foot person? Yeah.

Speaker 1 You can dunk? Yeah, I can dunk. You can step with dunks.
You got a ball? Come on. All right, come on.
Yeah. I mean, I've been sitting in a chair for four straight hours.

Speaker 1 Wait a minute. You got it.

Speaker 1 Blow us flat too. Help you.
Palmy.

Speaker 1 Can you really just get up there?

Speaker 1 He definitely can.

Speaker 6 Did you watch him move around at TST? Like, he can definitely still dunk.

Speaker 1 Yeah, soccer.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm talking just how he can move. He's so large.

Speaker 3 60-inch box jump is very fucking impressive.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 what you do with the combine?

Speaker 1 37 inches. 37-inch.
Very impressive.

Speaker 3 Pretty explosive.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
You can dunk. If you can can jump a foot and a half, you can dunk.
Ladies and gentlemen, how old are you now, Jage?

Speaker 1 Jeez.

Speaker 1 Tough one. 36 years old, retired, future first ballot Hall of Famer.
J.J. Watt will attempt to dunk a basketball.
Drop step? No, I'm not going to throw a step. Straight vertical.
No steps.

Speaker 1 This guy's a maniac.

Speaker 1 If he does this, we will give away

Speaker 1 20 cans of corn.

Speaker 1 Autographed by Ty Schmidt. Boom.

Speaker 1 Oh!

Speaker 1 Oh!

Speaker 1 That's it! Boom! All right!

Speaker 1 Wow, that was really good. That was really impressive.

Speaker 1 You got jacked up about that.

Speaker 1 When was the last time you did that? I was a little worried.

Speaker 1 Damn. I don't know why.

Speaker 1 That had to feel pretty good. That was easy.
And jeans, I was sitting there for four hours. Just from a standstill?

Speaker 1 Damn. Hey, keep your eye out for the Pacers on this run.
We don't know if we need you. You know what I mean? I'm an enforcer.
I'll be another JJ. We'll be the double JJs.
Oh,

Speaker 1 Dustin James and James Johnson. People running their mouth.
I don't think so. You guys eliminated the Bucs, though, so I don't know.
Those are my guys. That was a matter of fact.
That was so long ago.

Speaker 1 That might as well have been two seasons ago, brother. I know.
I know, Giannis.

Speaker 1 Maybe the Houston, though, so that could be. That was incredibly impressive.
Why don't you play it? Yeah. That was your 275.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 But he replay here.

Speaker 1 How do you feel about your explosion? Not great.

Speaker 1 Honestly. Oh, dude.
That works. Effortless.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You should try to break the rim or the backboard.

Speaker 1 He almost ripped the whole thing off the wall. Yeah, not a lot of people are coming in here dunking, by the way.

Speaker 1 I don't know how many people have dunked on that particular hoop over there. I think you're potentially the only one.

Speaker 2 No, Bone did.

Speaker 1 Like last week. All right, let's get out of here.

Speaker 1 Let's scrape it out here. Be a friend.
Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life.
We're going to sit and get a team on me. Oh, oh, Ben Stiller put a tweet out.
I'm going to do it. Oh.

Speaker 1 He said, we had a good time. All good.

Speaker 4 All right, good. I'm on the show, Ben.

Speaker 1 Come on the show. That's JJ.
Come on, Ben.

Speaker 1 He's dunked. I think we would do it.

Speaker 7 Ben also said he wants you to come to the next game.

Speaker 1 Perfect. Ben, come on the show.

Speaker 7 Paddle, go to the game.

Speaker 1 We got to. Perfect.
Jays, you need to, you're really comfortable right now. You just got done doing a big dunk and everything.
Yep.

Speaker 1 This is less than, it's about 24 hours from now trying to figure this whole schedule out. I'm floating.
You are floating, as you should.

Speaker 1 You're a beast of a man. Thank you for traveling on here.

Speaker 1 Massive Square Gordon. I mean, hell.
Game five of the Easter Conference final. The mecca

Speaker 1 20 000 i believe they're gonna and they win you're going on the stage for oh afterwards they do the stage presentation

Speaker 1 me and rick carlow up or yeah punching him in the shoulder yeah rick's gonna take that trophy and go i don't

Speaker 1 yeah but tyrese gets the the uh larry bird eastern conference player of the of the uh tournament i knew that we don't know he might not be team on me aj great work today bud good lucky workout tomorrow morning appreciate it thank you you too jage Safe Travels Home.

Speaker 1 Thank you for coming out. You're the man.
Thank you for having me. Congrats on the CBS gig, too.
That's a big deal. I owe you.
Being the voice of the NFL every single week is a lot of pressure.

Speaker 1 I think you're going to do a great job with it. Thank you.
I will lean on your gentleman's guidance.

Speaker 1 We do not need to be part of that. Amen.

Speaker 1 Amen. Amen.
Let's have a great day. Team on three.
One, two, three. Team.
Goodbye.