PMS 2.0 1445 - Watt Wednesday, Peter Schrager, Calvin Johnson, Stanford Steve, In the Trenches with AQ Shipley, Everything DB with Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Speaker 1 Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble the boat the thunderdough on this Wednesday November 5th 2025 this sports program begins right now

Speaker 12 It is absolutely magical and we're so lucky that we get to talk about it every single day.

Speaker 16 We are now in a world post trade deadline for all of our NFL teams.

Speaker 18 Did your team get better at the trade deadline?

Speaker 23 Did they take a massive swing and give up a couple first round picks maybe so that they can put their team in a position to go ahead and win the Super Bowl like the Indianapolis Colts did and even the Dallas Cowboys who traded away a first-rounder?

Speaker 30 Or are you on the New York Jets and staring down a full rebuild with who?

Speaker 27 Young players that are good.

Speaker 34 Well, we just got rid of a couple young players that are good.

Speaker 37 We need to find new young players that are good so we can kind of strip this thing down and rebuild it in a brand new image because we've been ass.

Speaker 40 So we apologize for getting rid of some of your favorite players and that little boy over there

Speaker 22 who learned of Sauce Gardner's release from his father in the kitchen.

Speaker 46 He would go on to throw a full fit, temper tantrum, tears, yelling, screams, because Sauce Gardner, his favorite player, is no longer a member of the Jets and now he's a member of the Indianapolis Colts.

Speaker 51 I would like to let that boy know.

Speaker 22 Come on over to the shoe, brother.

Speaker 52 Be smart.

Speaker 53 It is a great time to be a part of the shoe.

Speaker 55 We got a team.

Speaker 56 We got a quarterback. We got a coach.

Speaker 40 And we got an ownership group, the big three, that aren't scared to step right into the batter's box and take a massive hack.

Speaker 53 Just a few months into being the owners of the Indianapolis Colts.

Speaker 39 They give away a couple first-rounders to bring Sauce Gardner back.

Speaker 62 And breaking news, as of yesterday, Josh Downs will go Don's to business, just like his brother Caleb, and wear the number two.

Speaker 63 He was previously the number one as of two days ago.

Speaker 26 He's going to two.

Speaker 65 He is too slippery, too good, too cool, too sweet.

Speaker 39 And he's Don's to business alongside his brother with the number two.

Speaker 14 Sauce gardener will be wearing the number one for the indianapolis colts as a person who wore the number one with a lot of pride okay i appreciate it denim that number one we had a top 10 in jersey sales there for a little bit the number one for the indianapolis colts it's obviously slimming not as slimming as the number 11 so that is why i necessarily liked it on draft day uh i was drafted pick 222 uh you know seventh round there's a lot of commotion after you get drafted to an nfl team especially if it feels like you're not going to get drafted you're going to have to go back to school maybe all the drunks in your house who have given up hope on on you making it to the NFL are now realizing, like, oh,

Speaker 29 he's just going to be drunk with us, basically.

Speaker 18 That's what we're going to do.

Speaker 80 And then you get drafted and it's announced on television and everybody goes crazy.

Speaker 6 And you're talking to somebody that's in Indianapolis.

Speaker 81 They're like, we got a couple of things.

Speaker 59 What time do you want to fly out for Rookie Minicam?

Speaker 83 Whatever the earliest flight is. I'm good with whatever.

Speaker 21 Thank you. No problems.

Speaker 84 And then you got people like, yeah, we're fine. We did it.

Speaker 85 Yeah, we did.

Speaker 86 Yeah, we did.

Speaker 87 What number do you want?

Speaker 56 What's that? What number? do you want? What's available? One.

Speaker 82 Good.

Speaker 7 I'll take that one.

Speaker 47 I can't believe I have a number.

Speaker 92 I'll take number number one for sure okay we'll see you on friday good bang hang up beers celebration craziness pat why'd you pick the number one literally because it was just full chaos around me and then once you get the number one you're like this is a pretty sick number all of a sudden you feel like a sense of purpose okay i'm

Speaker 98 i am

Speaker 99 number one this two is not a winner

Speaker 100 you start thinking about it all of a sudden it starts looking cool And then you start doing one.

Speaker 45 You're like, wait, I do seemingly have a connection to this number.

Speaker 103 I love this number.

Speaker 104 This is a cool number.

Speaker 101 It's better a number one than any other number i guess especially if you're going to do your job well and then all of a sudden that number one just gets handed off to somebody else literally the year after i retire i'm like no connection why would i have any connection that number i should not feel a connection to that number then it gets handed off again then it gets handed off again then josh downs gets in i see him electrifying i'm like at least the number one's out there flying around like i i like what we're doing right there it's a nice trip back in time i love josh downs with it now a guy named sauce is going to be wearing it he's going to look so filthy this is his forever i believe every one jersey you see going forward will say, Garter, I'm going to get one because I would like Sauce to know that we are very thankful that he is a member of the Indianapolis Colts.

Speaker 113 Obviously, it's the headline of trade deadline.

Speaker 15 It's the big storyline.

Speaker 31 And we're trying to get, you know, more information as it unfolds.

Speaker 83 How'd we get here?

Speaker 14 You know, there's a guy named Seth

Speaker 116 Wald Walder.

Speaker 117 Yep, Walter.

Speaker 116 Seth Walter works at the SPN.

Speaker 39 Now, we looked him up. We don't know if it's his accurate account or not.

Speaker 118 77 followers or so.

Speaker 26 So Seth says it.

Speaker 32 We know that it's a big deal.

Speaker 90 He said that Colts got a D D on this trade and the Jets got an A, okay, because they also get A.D.

Speaker 23 Mitchell alongside the two first rounders.

Speaker 92 So a lot of people potentially saying that that's the case.

Speaker 53 Hey, Jets fleece the Colts. Jets fleece the Colts.

Speaker 60 If we're Sauce Gardner away from winning a Super Bowl,

Speaker 89 fleece us all you want.

Speaker 77 Fleece whatever the hell you want to fleece, because we'll be wearing our fleeces and right outside of them will be a fucking Super Bowl ring.

Speaker 21 And the Colts think that this was a move that can put them in a position to go win.

Speaker 59 I asked Big Three, you know, hey, this is a huge move.

Speaker 30 Congratulations.

Speaker 66 Very thankful you did this. It's a message to your entire fan base, to the entire NFL.

Speaker 106 Hey, we understand what window we're in right now.

Speaker 83 We're going to go for it. And we're not scared to get a deal done.

Speaker 128 Whenever some other people would not maybe push it through, we'll do that.

Speaker 122 And also, they trust Chris.

Speaker 29 Like, hey, Chris Ballard has always said, we like our guys.

Speaker 92 We like our guys.

Speaker 47 We like our guys.

Speaker 102 All his guys right now are playing the football that they're playing.

Speaker 51 They just bring in a quarterback and a couple other culture setters.

Speaker 5 And then all of a sudden, we got a super team.

Speaker 80 And that's what it feels like here in Indianapolis.

Speaker 124 So you can say it's a D, you can say we gave up too much.

Speaker 131 We here in India are like, well, we're in a fucking Super Bowl because Sauce Gardner's on a team.

Speaker 63 Reach out to Lou Annarumo, defensive coordinator of the Indianapolis Colts.

Speaker 23 Say, hey, what's quote, you know, he spoke to press right before the trade happened.

Speaker 37 So just want to get his thoughts on it.

Speaker 135 Love the addition of Sauce.

Speaker 32 It gives us another Pro Bowl corner.

Speaker 45 The guy's been a lockdown player his whole career and gives us the chance to match him and ward up on different receivers.

Speaker 116 Two super smart football players.

Speaker 93 I can't say enough about Sauce Gardner being on our team.

Speaker 6 We just elevated our whole defense.

Speaker 34 His Lou Anarumo, who every player that's ever played for, loves him.

Speaker 32 And you see his defense and what he's been able to do for us this year.

Speaker 16 Had a couple injuries.

Speaker 13 Obviously, we're trying to figure it out, but they've invested a lot of money into this defense.

Speaker 22 We invest in Lou Anarumo as our defensive coordinator.

Speaker 6 Obviously, think the offense good with Shane Steichen.

Speaker 12 Let's lock up the defense.

Speaker 92 What did you get from that quote from Lou?

Speaker 39 Because whenever he said they're both super smart players and we're able to put them on receivers, what does that mean, you think, in Lou Anarumo's eyes with what he can do with the defense?

Speaker 139 Man, that just gives you so much freedom, so many more resources, resource so many more different places that you could put resource like a left tackle who you could just put on the island just put by themselves when all these teams we look around the league especially the teams that's going to be there in the end they have one two maybe three like weapons that can kind of change your math so when you have corners that can offset down the other side chess pieces almost that can match up with these different receivers that's huge and the colts they kind of played their most man-to-man coverage last week against the stillers obviously we lost but i feel like the defense had a pretty good outing played a lot of man-to-man so maybe that's Lou wants to do a little more of with this defense.

Speaker 139 You know, all the different things that he,

Speaker 139 as far as disguise, different simulated pressures, blitzes, when you do all those different things. A lot of these coverages on the edges, they turn to man-to-man for the corners.

Speaker 140 Quarters, cover three,

Speaker 139 all these different. They turn into man-to-man once these rocks release down the field.
So getting a weapon like this, if he can play up to who he's been in this league at his peak.

Speaker 139 Now, I would say it's kind of been

Speaker 139 not a falloff, but a little decline in this play. I would say probably last season and a half, maybe.
But I think fresh start, new plays, he can definitely get back to being at top two, three corners

Speaker 139 for sure. Super Bowl.

Speaker 100 Good team.

Speaker 22 He immediately goes one and seven

Speaker 60 to seven and two.

Speaker 137 Hey, we're trying to go for a Super Bowl.

Speaker 142 And you saw what we just gave up for you.

Speaker 118 It's like this team is very thankful for you.

Speaker 33 It's a lot.

Speaker 15 That type of mentality and mindset coming into a place, he's going to be welcomed and he's going to be celebrated like hell.

Speaker 22 And the number one is hopefully going to be glue and guys down.

Speaker 5 Let's talk about some other storylines.

Speaker 80 Obviously, Trade Deadline Day.

Speaker 128 It's basically been announced now.

Speaker 19 Jacoby Brissette's a starter for the Arizona Cardinals.

Speaker 121 Congrats to him.

Speaker 9 Yeah. Wow.

Speaker 5 Jacoby Brissette, former starter for the Indianapolis Colts, this man, I was pushing for him to be the MVP that season.

Speaker 39 He led the Indianapolis Colts whenever we were in the middle of a quarterback carousel in phenomenal ways.

Speaker 110 He was a leader. Everybody loved him.

Speaker 39 He was calling meetings.

Speaker 45 The team would obviously fight for him.

Speaker 93 He was doing an offense, Frank Reich, I believe, offense in a way that we hadn't seen.

Speaker 4 And it was like, everybody's on board.

Speaker 61 This guy is leading the Colts to the promised land.

Speaker 45 Now, obviously, one thing leads to another.

Speaker 107 He ends up leaving us.

Speaker 92 He goes to another job, goes to another job, kind kind of bounces around. Jacoby Brissette, backup quarterback.

Speaker 107 Why is this guy still in the league?

Speaker 142 A lot of people say, well, it's because he's a damn good football player.

Speaker 47 And out there in Arizona, they haven't had a chance to be able to get him on the field.

Speaker 110 And that offense is executing better with him than anybody else we've seen, including Kyler Murray, who they just paid $200 million.

Speaker 146 We were talking to Bruce Arians yesterday, former coach of the Arizona Cardinals, and he said, Kyler Murray is going to be a starting quarterback for that team whenever he's healthy.

Speaker 147 A lot of money was given to Kyler Murray.

Speaker 129 There's no way they're just going to let that kind of just sit on the sideline.

Speaker 51 Then just a couple hours later, yep, we actually will do that.

Speaker 129 They're moving on with Jacoby.

Speaker 39 Let's go to their color commentator, the Arizona Cardinals, a man who knows this team a lot better than maybe anybody with the research that he's had to do to call these games for the Arizona Cardinals fans.

Speaker 112 And he rides the wave of the game.

Speaker 89 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 59 I mean, he rides the wave.

Speaker 112 He kind of got shades of Iron Cope in there whenever he's talking about stuff, the legendary Pittsburgh Steelers commentator.

Speaker 80 AQ Shipley here. Now, AQ.

Speaker 39 Obviously, you played for the Arizona Cardinals amongst many other teams. You're a Super Bowl champion.

Speaker 118 Now you're doing color commentary for the team, for the local audience.

Speaker 29 What is the reaction out there?

Speaker 6 You know, because obviously BA's reaction was it will never happen because business-wise.

Speaker 11 Across the entire league, it's like Kyler Murray's upside.

Speaker 142 Well, he could be, he could be special, obviously, very high draft pick, very, very high draft pick.

Speaker 22 In Arizona, how do they view it?

Speaker 92 Is everybody on board with Jacoby, like basically fan-wise?

Speaker 146 And what does this mean for the future, you think, with Kyler and the Cardinals?

Speaker 140 They love Jacoby Brissetti. He's been fantastic.

Speaker 140 And when you watch what he's done, when you look at him against the Colts, then to the Packers, two of the best teams in football, the offense was so much more fluid, so much more efficient.

Speaker 140 The ball is getting distributed to more people. He has been fantastic.
And then he comes out against the Cowboys and was basically flawless.

Speaker 140 The one interesting thing, he's been fantastic on third and long, whereas typically you typically go draws, you go screens, you do all these things. He's hitting third and 23.

Speaker 140 He's throwing a 43-yard pass, and they're getting first downs. He's been fantastic.
He's great in the play action. He knows Drew Petzing, and he's distributing.

Speaker 140 He's thrown more touchdown passes to Trey McBride this year than he has thrown to Trey McBride from Kyler his entire career.

Speaker 134 Yeah, I heard Trey McBride more touchdowns in like the last three games than Trey McBride and Kyler throughout the entirety of a couple of seasons.

Speaker 137 Adam Schefter reported that

Speaker 32 Kyler Murray and the Cardinals have consulted with multiple doctors on his foot injury and have been told the timetables for recovery have been anywhere from four to eight weeks, okay?

Speaker 24 One month to two months.

Speaker 17 With an increased chance of setback until it's properly healed, Murray now has more time to heal. Well, the Pardoners get a chance to kind of experience what Jacoby Prasecta be as a starter D.

Speaker 83 But that's kind of, that's good news. Get him completely healthy and also get a chance to see what it's like for Jacoby.

Speaker 122 That's in a good spot for the Arizona Pardoners, you think?

Speaker 139 Yes, it's a good spot. It's a good problem to have.
Obviously, we always said, now, if you have two quarterbacks, you don't have any.

Speaker 139 So you do want to have a clear direction with whoever that guy will be. Now, with Kyler not being 100%,

Speaker 139 I know a lot of people were kind of calling this a soft benching. I did see a quote, I believe from Jonathan.
I don't know if it was confirmed. I did see Rap Rap Sheet retweeted.

Speaker 139 So I kind of took it for, you know,

Speaker 139 being the truth. And then basically saying, even if Kyla was healthy, they would be going forward with Jacoby, which is wild.
It's a big decision.

Speaker 42 Oh, Burns and Gambo are on it.

Speaker 84 They're on it.

Speaker 139 I mean, once I saw Rapsheet put a stamp in, I said, all right, it got to be real.

Speaker 1 What's that?

Speaker 141 Burns and Gambo or his peers.

Speaker 65 Those are my peers.

Speaker 117 Those are my coworkers.

Speaker 84 So it's it.

Speaker 39 Good quote there, Debut, from Burns and Gambo.

Speaker 153 We certainly appreciate it.

Speaker 152 I mean,

Speaker 139 that's huge. So it is a

Speaker 139 real benching at this point. Now, you still want him to get healthy, but you are going forward with Jacob, and he's proved it.

Speaker 139 Get your opportunity, take full advantage of it. You can't lose the locker room by saying, hey, we're going with this guy because he's making $40 more million dollars.
Because we're fighting.

Speaker 139 This is a team. This is a good football team.

Speaker 152 You know, it's a good football team. Even last year, remember,

Speaker 65 they didn't win a lot of games, but it's like defense is going to be stubborn.

Speaker 37 Yep. Defense is going to be stubborn, and they were going to fight and fight and fight.

Speaker 137 It was like a lot of close games, close games, close games.

Speaker 154 Then this year, close games, close games, close games.

Speaker 129 It's like they're not as ass as their record has looked.

Speaker 33 Just like the Colts kind of.

Speaker 60 The Colts were a team that was a much better team than what, like, didn't make the playoffs the last few years.

Speaker 39 Colts were a much better team than what their record should.

Speaker 52 I think Arizona, kind of the same.

Speaker 103 Now, their record is still ass, though.

Speaker 65 I mean, it is.

Speaker 43 It's still an ass Chiefs record right now, if you look at that.

Speaker 60 But a lot of football left to maybe go on a run.

Speaker 68 They have a long way to climb.

Speaker 140 There's really no room for error moving forward, but they're doing it differently than they have in the years past because their run game coordinator went to Dallas this offseason.

Speaker 140 They relied solely on the run the last couple of years, 13 personnel. They ran the heck out of the ball.
Now, all of a sudden, they're becoming a passing team. They're doing a ton of play action.

Speaker 140 They're pushing the ball down the field with Jacoby.

Speaker 18 Jacoby might be a sleeper fantasy pick.

Speaker 105 He might be.

Speaker 45 And trade for Jacoby.

Speaker 5 Sounds like they're going to be throwing the ball a lot.

Speaker 32 Marvin Harrison Jr.

Speaker 39 said whenever he was told that he was going to be a focal point in the Dallas Cowboys plan, he was excited about that.

Speaker 146 And then I saw somebody tweet and go, yeah, the guy should be a focal point.

Speaker 67 Yeah, maybe we should be focused.

Speaker 90 Maybe we should do that.

Speaker 39 But nonetheless, Arizona Cardinals make a massive way.

Speaker 155 What's next for Kyler?

Speaker 37 You know, the natural instinct for, you know, football fans, especially whenever Kyler has as much talent in his pinky as, you know, some people have in their entire bodies.

Speaker 156 And we're talking about a super athlete here, this guy, unbelievable.

Speaker 77 We've obviously seen the highlights on football fields where he runs for three miles and he's outrunning everybody.

Speaker 16 We've seen him full speed run and have a perfect throw.

Speaker 147 We've seen him be able to do things on a football field that are very special athletically, but he's also top 10 draft pick in MLB.

Speaker 16 Okay, like also top 10 draft pick in MLB.

Speaker 51 How old is he? Can't be that old.

Speaker 161 27, I think.

Speaker 56 Okay, so now the question is, if this is from Burns and Gambo, you know,

Speaker 162 and they know.

Speaker 154 What's the station?

Speaker 140 98.7 Arizona sports.

Speaker 43 Nice.

Speaker 1 Nailed it.

Speaker 116 Your beers.

Speaker 8 Hell yeah.

Speaker 163 But what's next for Kyler?

Speaker 108 You assume that maybe another team will say, hey, if we get him in our building, he'll be able to be unbelievable.

Speaker 116 But is there a little bit of Kyler that's maybe thinking, Hey, I

Speaker 85 could see that curve,

Speaker 34 I could see that curveball.

Speaker 36 And he's still young enough, he's still young enough to potentially be able to do that.

Speaker 119 How impossible would that be in that conversation?

Speaker 46 And how realistic?

Speaker 92 Probably not that much because other teams will want him.

Speaker 37 But we're talking about a freak athlete here whenever we're chit-chatting about Kyler.

Speaker 17 And I think that gets forgotten about with all the other stuff.

Speaker 37 Yeah, I mean, video game stuff, right?

Speaker 167 Pausing the contract stuff, and then this stuff and that stuff.

Speaker 121 It's like, hey, we're talking about a special elite

Speaker 168 athlete that has ever been one of one top 10 in both football and MLB.

Speaker 13 So I think that kind of gets lost in the conversation of all this.

Speaker 160 Yeah, I mean, I don't think he hasn't played baseball in like six years and who knows how much, you know, he's like going to the batting cages because I'm sure he can still do that kind of stuff like pretty easily.

Speaker 160 But the big thing is, is like he hasn't played in six years. So it's not like he's going to be able to, let's say, he's done with football.

Speaker 160 He's not going to go sign with like the Red Sox and then be on their opening day.

Speaker 67 I see Russell Wilson Wilson training. Are you sure?

Speaker 23 I see Russell.

Speaker 18 Russell Wilson comes jogging out.

Speaker 160 Yeah, he goes to spring training. He gets two at bats.
He strikes out. He looks like an idiot against a guy who has been playing baseball and hasn't just taken six years off.

Speaker 23 I hope Russell Wilson tweets you right now.

Speaker 140 I hope he does too. That'd be awesome.

Speaker 29 That would be awesome.

Speaker 77 That would be awesome.

Speaker 169 Hey, this guy can't hit a curveball either.

Speaker 45 And what if Russell Wilson says to you in response to on a tweet says, I'd take you yard 10 times just straight.

Speaker 26 Why don't you pitch against Russell Wilson?

Speaker 160 I would love to. And I would hope Russell Wilson would take me yard 10 times because he's a Super Bowl-winning quarterback.
He's an unbelievable athlete, and he's also got drafted to play in.

Speaker 77 But how sick would that be if you struck his ass out?

Speaker 162 That'd be pretty sick.

Speaker 172 And you know what?

Speaker 9 Yeah, I was going to say,

Speaker 160 you know, he's never seen my knuckle curveball, so

Speaker 160 we'll say that. But the big thing about Kyler is you make $200 million.
Like, if you had made $200 million, do you want to go back down and play single-A, double A, and be on buses with guys?

Speaker 160 Like, that's never going to happen.

Speaker 154 Ever. Is that what he has to do?

Speaker 160 Yeah, there's just, there's no there's no way that i mean i i suppose he could get invited to like a team spring training and then all of a sudden it's like he's batting 500 he hits a bunch of homers but there's just no like over the course of kyler walking into spring training haven't played in six years how do you do steps in there

Speaker 160 bomb but it'd also be a thing like you know with t-bow like the you know how much every one of those guys is relishing like

Speaker 160 you know i'm gonna strike this motherfucker out like this guy thinks he can just come in yeah no but that's what I'm saying. It's completely different.

Speaker 160 Obviously, Tebow, like, these guys knew that was kind of more of a publicity stunt. Like, yeah, he had played baseball before, but like, Kyler, you know, I mean, he couldn't catch a five.

Speaker 100 I mean, yeah,

Speaker 1 he got pop-ups bouncing off his head going into the car.

Speaker 142 Somebody that played Frontier League baseball alongside Michael Jordan as well.

Speaker 104 I would say what I was doing, a little bit of a publicity stunt.

Speaker 65 A little bit of a publicity.

Speaker 147 I had a microphone.

Speaker 117 Mike up.

Speaker 116 I was mic'd up having a conversation, maybe maybe a little ahead of our time yeah you know uh now that you look at that entire thing that was tim tebo was on these buses driving time to time yeah i don't think he was doing it as i think he was trying to make it in mlb like i think he was no i i agree he absolutely was do you think personality wise uh how similar do you think tim tebow and kyler murray are well sir what if kyler okay so let's get rid of all the bus taken okay in a single age that's a pretty big part of it though let's get rid of it okay all right let's get rid of it it's out of the way okay all right now we're double

Speaker 160 every game is in his backyard.

Speaker 177 Big go. Okay.

Speaker 178 Traveling to him. Yeah.

Speaker 106 He's got the money. We're buying the tickets.

Speaker 153 Exactly. Okay.

Speaker 42 Let's say they move double A out of there, too.

Speaker 26 Let's say he goes in triple A, okay, like they did with Mr.

Speaker 142 Skeens.

Speaker 50 Okay, he comes in AAA.

Speaker 44 Maybe here in Indianapolis. Maybe.

Speaker 179 It would be great to have him.

Speaker 87 Ooh.

Speaker 6 Not a chance that they would just drop him into AAA because he's a 28-year-old who might be a special talent.

Speaker 160 There's a chance because I assume with a guy like that, like you said, like he is one of one.

Speaker 160 It could be like riding a bike. But I mean, just it's a lot.
It's obviously very difficult.

Speaker 160 All these guys talk about how hard it is to hit a baseball, and I'm assuming that, like, if you need to be, if you're going to be an NFL quarterback, like, there can't be any, like, he is all NFL.

Speaker 160 He hasn't probably thought about baseball.

Speaker 177 That's not what I've heard, potentially.

Speaker 180 Really?

Speaker 66 I've heard that maybe, maybe there is back-to-ball in some of the workouts in the offseason.

Speaker 160 Okay. So, if that's the case, like, yeah, I mean, I, again, he, it might be a lot of fun.

Speaker 109 I would like Tyler to know, we are not telling you you should quit football.

Speaker 97 Okay. I'm not telling you that.

Speaker 94 But I'm saying, if an opportunity presents itself for you to be one of the first of all time to do something, I wonder if that is something that kind of spurs motivation, inspiration to maybe go and get it.

Speaker 104 Or another NFL team would say, hey, yeah, you get in our building.

Speaker 159 Imagine with Kevin O'Connell.

Speaker 94 Not that it will because J.J.

Speaker 48 McCarthy is definitely going to be a guy.

Speaker 17 But you start thinking about like an offensive gurus like that.

Speaker 183 If McDaniel.

Speaker 128 got, you know, with Caleb Williams, would they be able to time something up and be able to come in and efficient offense, especially because he has an absolute host?

Speaker 30 Now, can you break down a defense?

Speaker 56 Will he spend all that type of stuff is the whole conversation, but we're talking about a special talent.

Speaker 60 We need to never forget that.

Speaker 139 NBA, BA, obviously, he's not coaching now, but you would think a lot of coaches probably still think like him, especially offensive-minded coach. Like NBA definitely was not out on him.

Speaker 139 He's still, hey, Kyler, it can still be a guy. There's still a lot of tread on his tire.
And he's 20-something years old. We talked about the freak athlete that he is.
He has the arm talent.

Speaker 139 We've seen quarterbacks go to different systems in different coaches. And, you know, personality and all that stuff matters as well.
But, you know, still,

Speaker 139 I think we'll obviously see Kyler Murray on the football field.

Speaker 184 But, I mean, look, I would love him.

Speaker 2 I don't want to see him dying single. A Kyle, you're representing the NFL.

Speaker 100 MJ did it.

Speaker 172 Right?

Speaker 65 Where did he go? Where was the Baron?

Speaker 162 Yeah, Birmingham Barons.

Speaker 160 I blood double A.

Speaker 8 Okay. Yeah, he did it.

Speaker 139 I mean, you know, MJ

Speaker 139 do much of shit now.

Speaker 146 Well, back then, also, there's no internet.

Speaker 91 There was no Call of Duty. I don't think there was no really anything else to do.

Speaker 91 So

Speaker 9 MJ had shit to do.

Speaker 157 Always did, didn't he?

Speaker 164 He was good at all of it.

Speaker 104 How about his like legendary golf stories?

Speaker 185 Playing 36 holes before like a game four or whatever, game three, scoring 50.

Speaker 105 Yeah.

Speaker 34 I played 36 holes with this guy.

Speaker 185 He's playing tonight.

Speaker 186 It's a playoff game.

Speaker 154 Drops 32, winks at me as he's going out.

Speaker 136 It's unbelievable. Guy, different animal.

Speaker 70 Couldn't even imagine him in the modern world, you know, with all the content that is happening.

Speaker 91 Imagine him on a golf course day of a playoff game.

Speaker 64 Imagine if they caught Tyrese's big ass

Speaker 56 on the day of a playoff game.

Speaker 36 He would get absolutely eviscerated.

Speaker 102 Joining us now is a man who might have a little bit more information on all the moves that we saw yesterday.

Speaker 49 He is an insider everywhere, has friends literally in every single building.

Speaker 60 Now he's with ESPN, formerly Emmy award winner at NFL Network.

Speaker 48 Ladies and gentlemen, Peter Schrager.

Speaker 178 Shrags, how you doing, brother?

Speaker 23 We're talking about Kyler Murray.

Speaker 187 Any thoughts on that entire situation over there?

Speaker 188 I'll tell you this.

Speaker 188 I was there Monday for that Monday night football game, and I'm walking around the field before the game, and I'm, you know, talking to everyone, doing my thing, kind of kissing babies shaking hands whatever and everybody in arizona you know was talking about jacoby brissette and and how good he had been the last five weeks and what a shame it was that he wasn't able to get the victory and they had three walk-off field goals and the elephant in the room is there's kyler murray standing there he's dressed in a dallas stars jersey looked great and he's there on the sidelines and he was nine and oh in his life going back to high school college and the pros in that building and he was just a complete non-factor in this game because he was out with the injury but the juice around jacoby was so real that I came away from this one thinking, like, I don't know if they're just pumping him up or not, but like

Speaker 188 there might be a future with Jacoby Bursette as the guy there. The problem is Kyler's contract the next three years, it's over like $100 million in dead cap space.
So what do you do with that?

Speaker 188 But in a post-Russell Wilson era where teams just say rip the bandaid off, that might be the move.

Speaker 188 I'll say this. They are still paying Cliff Kingsbury his full salary.
They are still paying Steve Kim his his full salary. Those guys are from a different era.
Those are the guys who brought Kyler in.

Speaker 188 These new guys, Gannon and Monty Ossenfort and his crew, they didn't draft Kyler. They didn't sign him to that extension.

Speaker 188 And if you go to the owner and say, hey, we tried it for two years, we're going to move on. We got to take a financial hit.
We'll figure it out.

Speaker 188 They might be more open to it than if they were the guys who actually drafted him.

Speaker 15 That's crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 71 Anytime you got a new GM or new coach, new power, you have new allegiances and new loyalties and new visions.

Speaker 118 You know, how you see a team being is not necessarily the team that you've inherited whenever you're in charge.

Speaker 145 And I experienced it.

Speaker 45 You know, we got a new GM and I was literally told during the negotiation process that there is no loyalty between us.

Speaker 43 And it was like, really? Wow.

Speaker 42 Yeah.

Speaker 45 I was literally told that piece of information.

Speaker 159 It was like, oh, okay, sounds good.

Speaker 185 So I'm gone, I guess.

Speaker 111 And then Jim Ursa says, nope, you're franchise tech, brother.

Speaker 120 You're not going anywhere for at least a year.

Speaker 95 We're going to figure this shit out.

Speaker 148 And I was very thankful for Jim for that.

Speaker 46 But there was certainly a time where new GM came in and I was not a good punter, but I'm low low man on totem pole and I'm being told that.

Speaker 22 Couldn't even imagine whenever it's.

Speaker 17 20% of your salary cap, 22% of your salary cap as you're trying to build this team up.

Speaker 17 It takes a lot of courage to make that decision.

Speaker 102 On that note, the big three here in Indianapolis sign off on a massive trade to get Sauce Gardner to the Indianapolis Colts.

Speaker 35 He'll be wearing the number one, obviously, two ones and A.D.

Speaker 36 Mitchell go to the Jets.

Speaker 60 Everybody that knows Sauce has said, man, awesome dude, awesome in the locker room, awesome player.

Speaker 106 You're going to love him.

Speaker 61 Fans and some other people say the Jets are getting two firsts and A.D.

Speaker 30 Mitchell for just Sauce Gardner.

Speaker 20 What is your take on how this trade played out?

Speaker 5 And I don't want to say winners or losers, but just maybe your takeaway from it all.

Speaker 191 I loved it for both sides.

Speaker 188 Indianapolis first. You like that little trick? Indianapolis first.

Speaker 188 This is a team that looked at their roster and said, okay, we're not this young squad of just first and second year players.

Speaker 188 Like DeForest Buckner is a veteran and Quentin Nelson is a veteran and Kenny Moore and those guys deserve us to go all in at their ages and what they've done for the first half of this season to go all in and make this move.

Speaker 188 I will tell you, speaking to sources around the league and with both these teams, Chris Ballard has been calling around the league for a move over the last several weeks.

Speaker 188 Sauce Gardner's name was not mentioned, but he had been calling the Jets about players on their team because they were obviously in a fire sale mode.

Speaker 188 About 48 hours ago, Sauce's name came up and the Jets were not looking to trade Sauce Gardner.

Speaker 188 And remember, the same first year GM who just traded him, Darren Moogie, signed him to a four-year, $120 million extension in July.

Speaker 188 And this is his first year, his first massive move on the defensive side of the ball.

Speaker 188 But when that deal came in, it was almost described as like a godfather deal that they offered that they could not say no.

Speaker 188 So I like it from the Cults side because Ballard looks at it and says, all right, we've got a veteran team.

Speaker 189 They're all healthy.

Speaker 188 We're playing good ball. We've got a crazy tough stretch coming in the next four weeks.
We need to stay on the ball. This guy makes us that much better in an area of weakness.

Speaker 188 And from the Jets part of it, they just got what essentially the Cowboys got for Micah Parsons for Sauce Gardner, who's got 18 career wins in four years there. So they weren't going anywhere.

Speaker 188 They haven't won with Sauce and Quinnen. They were like, crap, we can't say no to that.

Speaker 189 And to Ballard, like, all chips on the table.

Speaker 188 Here we go. Like, we're all in on this team.

Speaker 109 Big swing.

Speaker 163 And if Sauce is the one that lifts this defense to, you know, to a place where we can win a Super Bowl, who cares about the trajectory?

Speaker 22 BA said yesterday, whenever we got Gronk, the fourth round came around.

Speaker 49 We didn't have our pick. And we all just looked at our ring.

Speaker 116 Oh, there's our fourth rounder.

Speaker 192 There's our fourth rounder right there.

Speaker 60 That's pretty nice.

Speaker 16 And then we move along.

Speaker 83 First rounder, obviously, different than a fourth rounder.

Speaker 90 But if this works out and we win, nobody will say a damn thing about anything else.

Speaker 117 I love it.

Speaker 188 You're right. And it's the same thing that talking to McVay and Sneed over the years when the Von Miller deal happened.

Speaker 188 Now, people always talk about that team and it's F them picks and they got Ramsey and they got Odell and all this stuff. Von Miller was the move at the trade deadline.

Speaker 188 They called Denver every day for about two weeks. And then finally, the last day, they were just banging on it so hard that Denver said, fine, take Von Miller here.
We'll get the exchange.

Speaker 188 That's what this was. And I came on your show last week and I said, don't read all the stuff online.
Don't listen to the thing.

Speaker 188 There's going to be a big name, but those names don't even become evident until the day of. I said that on this very show.

Speaker 188 I said, don't read it, like, don't get fixated on the names that everyone else is talking about.

Speaker 188 There's going to be a big name that goes the day of, and that was Sauce Gardner, because I will tell you, Sauce had no idea he was being traded.

Speaker 188 Other teams around the league were texting me being like, did you know he was up for sale?

Speaker 188 I'm like, he wasn't up for sale, unless you offer two picks in a wide receiver that they could use on their team today.

Speaker 19 I like that the cults are that aggressive.

Speaker 59 They're going to be judged for it going forward.

Speaker 109 And I think our team is in a good spot. Lou Anarumo told us he's happy.

Speaker 60 He's pumped up. Love the addition.

Speaker 22 He, you know, it elevates the entire defense.

Speaker 193 What he just did for the team, he just, Lou Anarumo is so excited.

Speaker 164 Think about where Lou was and what was going on.

Speaker 8 Okay.

Speaker 180 Losing all his players.

Speaker 116 We're not paying. Yeah, right.

Speaker 146 Defense?

Speaker 99 Stupid. Nobody's paying tickets.

Speaker 145 Nobody's buying shirts.

Speaker 97 We're selling jerseys on offense.

Speaker 195 We're not selling jerseys on defense.

Speaker 145 We're not paying any of your guys on defense. Lou's like, well, what am I supposed to do here?

Speaker 160 Figure it out.

Speaker 45 He loses. They say, get the hell out of town.

Speaker 89 Chris Ballard,

Speaker 70 change second immediately. Excuse me.

Speaker 87 You're available right now?

Speaker 194 Yeah, we would love to have you.

Speaker 13 And guess what we're going to do?

Speaker 24 We're going to sign three guys this offseason on defensive side.

Speaker 26 And then right before trade deadline also, we're going to give you another lockdown guy.

Speaker 118 It's like Lu Anna Rumo is sitting in a place that I assume he would.

Speaker 39 Any defense coordinator would love to be in.

Speaker 26 Team clearly investing on the defensive side of the ball while assuming that the offense is already figured out.

Speaker 129 If this works, that's great.

Speaker 6 Now, on the flip side of that, this New York Jets team seemingly sending a message.

Speaker 118 You said fire sale.

Speaker 139 Go ahead, debuff yeah absolutely fire sale just a full rebuild get letting go of these uh young phenomenal players that you already paid like what's the how does it what's the vibe around aaron glenn do you feel like they'll be patient with aaron glenn and actually let him build you would assume they're gonna use this draft capital and go get a quarterback kind of start that new chapter but we've seen the jets do this time and time again since probably rex ryan's departure so uh what's your thoughts with um aaron glenn and the patience level with him you have to try to separate the history of this team which has been plagued with, you know, quarterback selections in the top five that haven't panned out and have had success elsewhere and where they're hoping to go.

Speaker 188 I will tell you this: a lot of the organization was at the mangold services yesterday, and they purposely held any news of these trades until afterwards.

Speaker 188 And Darren Moogie was like, I'm well aware of what's going on right now this morning during this. I'm not going to try to make a headline here.

Speaker 188 However, the night before, these deals were pretty much done and put to bed, and they felt comfortable because now it gives them the flexibility to do what they want with a quarterback.

Speaker 188 We know that this isn't going to be the quarterback draft class of 04 or even 2023 or one of these groups where it was coming out like, hey, there are six guys.

Speaker 188 In fact, every week it seemingly changes who's the guy. So what this does is having five first or second round picks in the next two years, it gives you a little wiggle room.

Speaker 188 Do you want to trade up to get one in 26? Do you want to stay patent to get one in 26? Do you want to save that for 27, use those picks to maybe get one?

Speaker 188 Or do you want to package them and get a veteran quarterback in a monster trade because he's now got five first or second round picks? This didn't exist before yesterday.

Speaker 188 They didn't have this flexibility. They have this flexibility now.
And before we say, well, the Jets are going to screw it up. Let's give them a little grace.

Speaker 188 Darren Mugi's actually have a pretty good draft. If you look at those rookies on that roster right now, they're playing pretty well.

Speaker 188 And the offensive line, which was what the focus was, has been really good. So let's see about it.
Let's give them a little grace.

Speaker 188 Let's give them a little patience, but you can't hold regimes of the past and the failures of Zach Wilson and the failures of all the different quarterbacks that have come through here.

Speaker 188 You can't put that on Darren Mougie and Aaron Glenn just yet.

Speaker 10 Well, they paid Justin Fields 20 million a year.

Speaker 163 Now, obviously, that is who they thought was going to be their quarterback.

Speaker 14 Maybe he will be.

Speaker 17 I mean, who knows how the rest of the season goes.

Speaker 138 And maybe they will save it for 2027.

Speaker 5 That's an interesting thing.

Speaker 42 You say you can't hold the regimes of the past or the current regime, kind of their feet to the fire for the past regimes.

Speaker 169 Jets fans are.

Speaker 84 Jets fans are just like,

Speaker 75 yep, that's what we thought.

Speaker 136 We'll trade away all our young, good players to try to find other good, young players.

Speaker 163 And then that'll work because we hit on these guys.

Speaker 54 These guys are really good.

Speaker 32 Look, other teams are willing to give up two first-rounders and a wide receiver to get this guy.

Speaker 178 No doubt.

Speaker 191 We hit him.

Speaker 188 And that's the thing.

Speaker 188 Those guys, that 2022 draft that Joe Douglas and Sala did got them, you know, obviously, you know, Garrett Wilson, who is the offensive rookie of the year and is a solid receiver, Sauce Gardner, who just went for two first-round picks, Jermaine Johnson, who's an outstanding pass rusher, and Brees Hall, you're looking at those four names and you're like, gosh,

Speaker 188 they all panned out. And guess what? Even with all those guys, they stink.

Speaker 199 Even with all those guys playing well, they stink.

Speaker 188 Quarterback matters. And it's becoming more and more evident every single day.
And whether it's the, it's nature versus nurture and like, look, Sam Darnold's awesome on Seattle.

Speaker 188 He's, he wasn't great with the Jets. And Zach Wilson might have a fine NFL career, didn't work with the Jets.
You have to keep swinging the bat. You have to to keep trying.

Speaker 188 But all those other players, those guys drafted pretty well. It doesn't matter if you don't have a quarterback and that's where they're at right now.

Speaker 39 They kicked Aaron Rodgers out of the building.

Speaker 37 He's having an okay year for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 87 No doubt.

Speaker 30 They outpaid everybody for Justin Fields.

Speaker 2 Sam Darnold was available from more of our understanding.

Speaker 154 So I'm not saying like, hey, let's make sure we give this current regime a chance here.

Speaker 182 They're the ones that brought in Justin Fields and it's not working, right?

Speaker 13 Aaron Glenn's the one that kicked Aaron out of the office immediately upon walking in after he flew four and a half hours over there.

Speaker 5 So it's like they've made a couple decisions here early, right?

Speaker 193 We've seen them already.

Speaker 138 And now they're halfway through their first year and saying, next year's our first year. That's right.

Speaker 177 Next year's our first year.

Speaker 39 Next year's our team.

Speaker 80 I would like to wish Aaron Glenn, who I am a fan of, good luck in this entire venture.

Speaker 45 But if you're a Jets fan, I'm sorry, man.

Speaker 68 I am. I'm sorry.

Speaker 180 Because one of the most entertaining guys in the entire NFL.

Speaker 166 Now gone.

Speaker 117 Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, sure.

Speaker 85 That poor kid kid crying.

Speaker 152 Yeah. Get another team.

Speaker 26 That's the first time he's experienced what life is as a Jets fan.

Speaker 160 Oh, he's adding it too. I don't don't want to be a Jets fan anymore.

Speaker 160 Granny pointed it out.

Speaker 105 Don't worry.

Speaker 160 I'll buy you a new jersey.

Speaker 188 That's it. He's wearing a Quinn Williams jersey in the cliff.
It's like you can't even make it up.

Speaker 173 Exactly.

Speaker 160 Speaking of Quinn and Williams Shraigs, I guess maybe that wasn't a shocker to some people.

Speaker 160 You said that.

Speaker 164 Yeah, you said it wasn't a shocker.

Speaker 160 Yeah, exactly. But what was kind of the idea around that whole thing?

Speaker 160 I saw a lot of people, Dallas fans in particular, kind of pissed off because it was kind of like, hey, we gave up everything we got in the Micah Parsons trade to get Quinn and Williams, and especially given what their record is and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 160 How did this come to be? And does this kind of like, are the Cowboys, do they just flip their defense? Are they all the way back now all of a sudden after getting Quinn Williams and Logan Wilson?

Speaker 199 No,

Speaker 188 they're improved, though, because of these guys.

Speaker 188 You look at the four names, Kenny Clark, these two, obviously, Logan Wilson is a good linebacker, as much as people have been rolling their eyes because that was not some slam dunk, like, you know, headline grabbing move.

Speaker 188 And we thought we were getting one. Quinnen's legit.
And then Overshone comes back. So there you have four guys.

Speaker 188 At least you can say they're going to not be run all over by Bam Knight and DeMarcado next time the Cardinals come in on a Monday night. You know,

Speaker 188 this fact of this is like they're 3-5-1.

Speaker 188 And I don't know if this team is going to the playoffs. And I don't necessarily think they are.
They do have a rest of the season to play out.

Speaker 188 And in those games, they've got a primetime game against the Raiders on Monday night football. They got a Sunday night game against the Lions.
They got a Thanksgiving Day game against the Chiefs.

Speaker 188 They've got a four o'clock window with Brady and Burkhart doing the Eagles game. They've got a Christmas Day game on Netflix that we're going to have to do flips over where they play the Commanders.

Speaker 188 So they're going to be on TV a bunch in your face. And I think, honestly, at the end of the day, Jerry was like, we have to stop the bleeding.

Speaker 188 He already put it out there saying earlier in the day he had a trade in his back pocket. And like,

Speaker 188 he was hot to make a trade. I think Jerry was hot to make a trade.
And I will tell you, talking to the people around the league, there wasn't an offer as good as this.

Speaker 188 And when it's out of division and out of conference, and it's a 28-year-old guy that like we like, but I don't necessarily think we're winning because of, and his career record with the Jets was 31 and 67.

Speaker 188 Like, he got, I think it's okay.

Speaker 156 We can't hear the Sauce Gardner won 18 games.

Speaker 116 It's like Sauce Gardner won 18 games.

Speaker 84 That is, that's a wild play as a whole.

Speaker 105 That's a wild.

Speaker 116 Yeah, Yeah, but that's what you just said, though.

Speaker 49 Like, that is, I understand the narrative is we have them on our team now.

Speaker 91 We can't win.

Speaker 117 So, we have them not on our team.

Speaker 140 Not them.

Speaker 188 They were the reason they won any of those games. That's the problem.

Speaker 163 And it's like, well, that's why we're trying to get young guys that are good is the entirety of like what you're doing in the draft.

Speaker 39 And it's like, I guess they already paid these guys, so they're not considered young anymore, you know, I guess because they're already taking up so much of the salary cap.

Speaker 34 But just being able to replace greatness, I mean, all right.

Speaker 43 Good luck.

Speaker 58 Good luck.

Speaker 114 We are excited about it.

Speaker 118 Now, on the the flip side, if I was building a team or in my first couple of years or first year with the team, and I was offered five first-round picks over the next two years to build this team up in my kind of view and vision, I would certainly say yes to that as well.

Speaker 102 And now, granted, would I say,

Speaker 60 18 wins this corner?

Speaker 105 18 times we got to say yes.

Speaker 60 18 times we got to say, yeah, that was fun.

Speaker 117 This guy.

Speaker 33 This guy.

Speaker 54 Yeah, I mean, that's just, but I understand the narrative is

Speaker 199 suck.

Speaker 188 We've had these great young young players. We suck.

Speaker 65 So let's get some new great young players.

Speaker 177 Maybe we won't suck.

Speaker 202 Yeah, let's at least give it a go. Got to get a quarterback.

Speaker 59 Okay, so Jets fans should be excited. Jets fans pumped like five years from now.

Speaker 160 Like five, six years from now, you can be super excited.

Speaker 59 No, the Jets are actually going all in on the future.

Speaker 30 So the future should be bright.

Speaker 70 Now, the future's not right now.

Speaker 200 Okay, we got nine more weeks.

Speaker 152 Right.

Speaker 181 And you know what this thing is going to happen.

Speaker 160 You know what I did see as well is they traded, you know, kind of a bunch of like stalwarts franchise players and then hit them immediately after with boom we're raising ticket prices next year no yeah they did no they didn't do that is that why j

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Speaker 3 is that why fireman edge pissed probably

Speaker 98 anybody do we have a health and wellness check is he pissed on fireman edge oh he's gotta be he's gotta be so upset dude I think he's pretty pumped to retire for the fourth time.

Speaker 205 He might be on another golf trip.

Speaker 33 Fireman Ed ran towards Fire's not away from him.

Speaker 51 He's allowed to go golf whenever the hell he digs.

Speaker 162 And he left early to get there in time.

Speaker 85 What are you talking about?

Speaker 65 His golf trip.

Speaker 29 Well, it was the boys.

Speaker 200 He wanted him to

Speaker 65 show him the boys.

Speaker 105 That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 171 He said he let

Speaker 162 the golf trip early.

Speaker 65 That's a big deal. Yeah.

Speaker 59 Yes, it certainly is.

Speaker 116 The end of it, too.

Speaker 157 Probably a sweet golf trip.

Speaker 42 Oh, my God.

Speaker 57 Imagine how many times. Every T-Box.
Yeah.

Speaker 188 Every time yeah every before every shotty we're at the halfway house do it again

Speaker 30 run it yeah they walk into the halfway house there's like a little snack in there two people accidentally in there at the same time you want to see it yeah you do

Speaker 66 hey ed we love you man sorry you've been battling so far

Speaker 36 That is a good bit.

Speaker 206 We've got a lot of good stuff going on there.

Speaker 58 Okay, let's talk a little bit about yesterday.

Speaker 30 AQ Shipley has a question for you.

Speaker 140 Yeah, obviously we keep talking about all of the trades that did get done. What was the closest deal yesterday that didn't get done?

Speaker 188 Oh, I was surprised, AQ, that there wasn't a fire sale in New Orleans.

Speaker 188 Now, I know they gave away Penning and they also traded Rashid Shaheed, but to me, I thought all those veterans, those guys, DeMario Davis, Cam Jordan, Taysom Hill, Alvin Kamara, all those guys could be up for sale because that team's going nowhere either.

Speaker 188 And yet, they held on to those guys, even after a terrible loss to the Rams. So those guys will finish the year.

Speaker 188 And if I was thinking as a Saints fan, maybe like the philosophy the Jets had where it's, hey, we're not going anywhere. We got a bunch of veterans.

Speaker 188 Let's unload them because there was interest in all those guys, but they didn't make those deals. The other name was that was being tossed around a lot was Brees Hall and the Jets didn't trade him.

Speaker 188 That was more of like a, hey, that's our best offensive player this year. We're actually in on Brees Hall.

Speaker 188 And if he goes somewhere else in free agency, we'll get a compensatory pick that might be better than the value of what we were getting offered for him.

Speaker 188 So it's, it was, I was looking at the teams that were obviously sellers, and uh, some guys weren't sold.

Speaker 188 And it was just like, well, the juice wasn't worth the squeeze to get rid of them for like a fifth or sixth round draft pick.

Speaker 146 I like whenever, you know, is this good business for both of us comes to play, you know, at the very final hour, you know, whenever we're right up against it.

Speaker 32 Are we going to do this or are we not?

Speaker 127 And it's like, well, I don't think we're getting good.

Speaker 92 You know, and you kind of back out of those deals, always chirping, always chatting.

Speaker 32 That's why when these big ones happen, the amount of courage it takes to get that fun, because, you know, do it.

Speaker 188 Schefter was reporting yesterday about how the deal's not done the deal's not done quinney williams and dallas cowboys he goes we're close it's like that's sometimes the hardest you know when you're in goal line pre-tush push days when you're in goal line those are the hardest things to get negotiations and contracts can be that way as well so to get to that point and then actually make it happen is a huge deal so if your team's a buyer at all like we are so many people probably said probably not probably not probably not probably not probably not so for your team to say yes let's go for it that's why tread deadline day is so beautiful it's like okay now we know in the building building they're going now now we know that they view it the same way we do you know what i mean shreigs yeah and it's and it's become different it wasn't this way five ten years ago it was more incentive to just keep your guys and just ride it out but i kind of loved yesterday because teams were taking swings and other teams were being honest with themselves and looking in the mirror and saying you know the jets case like what are we we're not winning with this so the the other part of that like dallas deal there was other teams that were calling about quinnon but when you start saying like the particulars of like, all right, we're going to get the better of your two picks when it's the Dallas pick or the Green Bay pick because of Micah Parsons and you're going to give us the better of your two picks.

Speaker 188 That's the nitty-gritty. That's the stuff that usually holds deals up.
But both sides were motivated enough to get it done. And Jerry bent on that one.

Speaker 188 And now the better pick between the Packers and the Cowboys will be going to the Jets.

Speaker 187 Jerry Jones threw the snowball straight up in the sky.

Speaker 22 Here's Logan Wilson.

Speaker 39 I told you I got a trade coming in my back pocket.

Speaker 68 And then Quinn Williams.

Speaker 144 Great afternoon. Bang.

Speaker 134 Dallas Cowboys, I always stir some shit up.

Speaker 45 I told you literally yesterday. Didn't I just say this?

Speaker 209 I will stir shit up.

Speaker 94 And I certainly did.

Speaker 134 Everybody's talking about soft starter, soft starter. That's cute.

Speaker 91 Dallas Cowboys just loaded up on the defensive line. Everybody said I'm big, dumb, dip shit.

Speaker 103 We'll see how it all works out for them.

Speaker 37 Now, with the things you were talking about, the particulars, first rounders, second rounder, players being moved as well in both cases.

Speaker 39 Connor has a question for you.

Speaker 204 Yeah, Trace, piggyback off of AQ a little bit.

Speaker 204 Once those bigger trades, you know, went down, did trades like Jalen Waddell and Trey Hendrickson and Bradley chubb did those just become too pricey like did they have a certain um you know pick i know waddle was allegedly fetching a for one first-round pick but once sauce goes for two in a player did those prices get bumped up and is that why some things didn't happen

Speaker 188 i think so and i give credit to champ kelly who's the interim gm down in

Speaker 188 miami chris crew gets fired you're handed this plate and it's basically like well i have no incentive to to not do anything i'm an interim gm i want to make moves i want to show the owner and the value just wasn't there for them Jalen Waddell was too good for what they were being offered.

Speaker 188 And then in the case of Bradley Chubb, you'd think that would be a very movable piece.

Speaker 188 They probably just didn't get what they thought was worth a player who could still be a good pass rusher for the rest of the season. So Jalen Phillips goes, third round pick.
That sounds about right,

Speaker 188 especially a guy in the final year of his contract. And then the other two is like, no, we're not going to trade them 20 cents on the dollar just to do it, which I appreciate.

Speaker 45 Yeah, I do too.

Speaker 30 But some of these trades that end up happening for really good players are mind-blowing.

Speaker 22 Randy Moss won for what?

Speaker 88 Fourth?

Speaker 188 Fourth, I believe. Fourth rounder.
And napoleon harris i believe was the player

Speaker 36 hey napoleon was a dog they used to talk about him yeah

Speaker 64 you fear napoleon this guy

Speaker 65 a lot of spite favorite in new england

Speaker 93 oh really oh yeah everyone it honestly was the first napoleon they accepted in new england yeah it was like a full complex yeah it was a full complex they put together for him all right we appreciate the hell out of you shrakes you're the man oh i love it you guys are the best thank you you're the best ladies and gentlemen peter shrake yeah

Speaker 50 they didn't think they got enough for waddle man waddle's a good player Yeah.

Speaker 102 Put the tape on.

Speaker 32 Also got a sick celebration here to sell shirts.

Speaker 51 That's a whole nother business that we don't even talk about.

Speaker 107 That got to be at least worth a second, dude, don't you think?

Speaker 117 Maybe third.

Speaker 107 How about whenever Sauce goes for two ones?

Speaker 77 All of a sudden, everybody at the trade deadline is like, oh, I didn't know we're giving up that shit.

Speaker 70 I didn't know that was a thing.

Speaker 76 I didn't know we were giving up ones at the trade deadline.

Speaker 143 It did kind of come out of nowhere.

Speaker 164 We were shot.

Speaker 65 We're like, oh, shit, we got sauce.

Speaker 87 Wait, Cam Little.

Speaker 100 Two first round picks.

Speaker 162 Two first round picks. These guys were yelling in the back.

Speaker 173 Yeah.

Speaker 143 Screaming.

Speaker 15 Yeah, the Cam Little interview is running.

Speaker 16 Okay. Shout out to Cam Cam Little.

Speaker 17 His interview ran three times yesterday.

Speaker 146 First time ever that anybody's conversation has run three times in the same show.

Speaker 186 No, in entirety, one time, but you know, it got cut off both times.

Speaker 77 We were trying to chit-chat with a guy who just broke the longest field goal in NFL history record this weekend at 68 yards.

Speaker 30 That thing's running.

Speaker 36 All of a sudden, in the back, all you hear is, yo, yo.

Speaker 70 People are going to the bathroom.

Speaker 51 People are doing the whole thing.

Speaker 36 Got it.

Speaker 170 Let's go.

Speaker 17 And then it pops up on screen.

Speaker 95 Sauce gardeners come to the Indianapolis Colts.

Speaker 186 Oh, my God.

Speaker 168 This real?

Speaker 185 AI. Got to to be AI.
Nope. We're back.

Speaker 156 It's real.

Speaker 104 Okay. We're celebrating.
Holy cow.

Speaker 184 The Colts are all in.

Speaker 96 Colts Race is awesome.

Speaker 182 The big three, of course.

Speaker 43 We knew that. They knew.

Speaker 156 We didn't do it.

Speaker 213 Goes for two first rounds. Two, two, two, two first rounds.

Speaker 100 Hold the phone.

Speaker 91 I didn't know we'd give up two first rounds. The trade deadline.

Speaker 163 And then BA's like, who cares?

Speaker 55 Who cares?

Speaker 52 You got Sauce Gardner.

Speaker 30 That's the real thought.

Speaker 54 Is your team good for right now?

Speaker 80 That's what trade deadline is for, right now, this season.

Speaker 45 Now, when people want to judge it, they're talking about the future.

Speaker 94 What's the future look like?

Speaker 18 what's the future look like the New York Jets get an a for that because what the future is going to look like with who they're going to draft it's like well all the Colts care about right now with it is this year that that is what that pick is for now granted we got sauce for multiple years he just signed that deal which is great but this trade deadline move especially if you're a buyer it's like this piece Sends us this year to where we want to go you never know when your year is going to be your year This Colts teams thought they've been good for the last couple years.

Speaker 97 They're in the middle of it like, wait a minute, we've been building for this moment.

Speaker 38 Why would we not go for it?

Speaker 142 They go for it, and we make the biggest play trade deadline.

Speaker 159 It's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 139 Absolutely. And this is definitely for this year, but also for this window going forward.
I guess this Daniel Jones window because this lets you know, like, hey, we believe in the quarterback.

Speaker 139 We're probably going to lock him up long term. He's going to be driving the ship.
You got Sauce now for multiple years. You got Ward on the other side of him for multiple years.

Speaker 139 You got Cam Bynum for multiple years. Kenny Moore, he's one of the highest paid nickelbacks in the league.
So you have one of the best secondaries definitely on paper.

Speaker 139 And that should help those guys up front, you know, be able to get home too.

Speaker 139 We don't necessarily have that elite closer up front, but when you have multiple coverage guys in the back end, that definitely helps the guys up front.

Speaker 187 I think what we're seeing from the big three

Speaker 77 is if we win, that's how the business grows.

Speaker 45 You know, some people that get maybe handed a team.

Speaker 17 or kind of next generation of team are worried about literally just dollars, okay?

Speaker 5 Because this is the family business, just worried about dollars in this entire thing.

Speaker 38 But we've never really understood that because like any business, business, if you make a good business, that will make it more profitable.

Speaker 25 Look at the New England Patriots before Bill Belichick got there.

Speaker 142 Then you win for 20 years.

Speaker 45 Look at the valuation of the New England Patriots after you win.

Speaker 35 Like when you win, the business goes up.

Speaker 90 So this is just like with the Pittsburgh Pirates ownership, where we go like, hey, if you were to actually put your money into the team, what might happen?

Speaker 106 Think about this.

Speaker 71 Your bottom line might be more because you're better and you're getting bigger deals and you're on more TV, more everything can happen.

Speaker 108 I appreciate that the big three, seemingly seemingly, with this move and with everything else that has happened this season with the moves and signings, they're like, yeah, we would like to win.

Speaker 48 I think Carly Ursay in her opening press conference said, we want to be the greatest.

Speaker 24 We don't want wins will happen if we're the greatest.

Speaker 26 However, we can make this team the greatest is what we want to do.

Speaker 164 And it's like they're living up to that right now.

Speaker 66 And that's a sick precedent.

Speaker 31 I don't think they're going to be crazy.

Speaker 37 Like every single, they're not going to be like Carmine over there.

Speaker 215 Like, hey, we're known for doing this stuff.

Speaker 120 But I think they're very much much like, yeah, we want to have good, we want to win.

Speaker 24 When we win, we live through the Peyton Manning era with the Indianapolis Colts.

Speaker 183 When we win, life is, you know,

Speaker 116 Super Bowl, everything.

Speaker 49 You're everywhere.

Speaker 213 And they will be judged on this particular move.

Speaker 139 It's a big swing.

Speaker 139 Whenever you're sending that PJ out for somebody that you signed, whether it be a free agent, somebody you draft, whenever you send that bird out, that's going to be one of the signings, one of the moves that you will be judged for going forward.

Speaker 139 So I love them taking this swing while the offense is on kind of their historical run right now.

Speaker 139 Obviously, you hit a a roll bump against the Stillers last week, but with Daniel Jones, with Jonathan Taylor, the O-line, and then these receivers around Daniel Jones, I feel like they're having career years too, and it's almost like just scratching the surface of when they're going on that side of the ball.

Speaker 139 So for them to make the investment defensively, I mean, that's all you can ask for as a fan.

Speaker 32 Gonna have to pay Danny Dimes and Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 174 Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who's no stranger to football greatness.

Speaker 137 He is a pro football Hall of Famer.

Speaker 2 His name is mentioned anytime you talk about the greatest wide receivers in the history of the NFL, a man who was unguardable just anytime he was on a football field, including whenever he was at Georgia Tech.

Speaker 22 The only way that you'd be able to stop him is if they stopped throwing him the ball, which they did in the Gator Bowl second half against West Virginia.

Speaker 216 And we win that game.

Speaker 45 Ladies and gentlemen, for our friends at Real Truck, an aftermarket product and accessory brand for truck, Jeep, and SUV owners, they are announcing their opening of its flagship retail store in Rochester Mills, Michigan.

Speaker 56 If you got a truck, you check out Real Truck and you make that truck the best truck possible.

Speaker 46 Ladies and gentlemen, Detroit Lions legend, superhuman Calvin Johnson.

Speaker 9 Yeah, Calvin.

Speaker 70 How you doing, dude?

Speaker 190 What up, guys? What up? What up? It's good to see you, Pat.

Speaker 122 Hey, great to see you, too.

Speaker 30 Obviously, we're big fans of yours.

Speaker 32 We saw you Pro Football Hall of Fame weekend, kept it moving.

Speaker 45 Nice to see you get celebrated every year amongst your peers, as you should.

Speaker 31 Tell me about Real Truck, because I know, okay, I think you did some well to save the world at one point.

Speaker 83 I think you got into some, maybe some greenery business at one point.

Speaker 39 Now, obviously, teaming up with Real Truck here for the announcement of their November 13th retail store opening up there in Rochester Mills, Michigan.

Speaker 109 Like, how are you so,

Speaker 76 the depth of businesses that you've been a part of, I want to let you know, almost as historic as your playing career.

Speaker 22 How did we get tied up with Real Truck and what do we need to know about them?

Speaker 190 Nah, awesome. Appreciate that.
No, with Real Truck, man, they just saw what I was doing in the community, man.

Speaker 190 Just Just really trying to help these young student athletes, you know, just trying to help them in their, you know, path to, you know, through college and onto their careers.

Speaker 190 We're trying to give them a boost, whether it's financially,

Speaker 190 through mentorship or whatever way we can. And, you know, they kind of, you know, they had synergy with our mission and what we're trying to accomplish through our foundation.

Speaker 190 And, you know, with what they're offering the foundation, man, all the proceeds of the truck that they're auctioning off will be going to the Calvin Johnson Jr.

Speaker 190 Foundation, obviously, to boost those student athletes and families, both in Atlanta and Detroit. So it's pretty awesome what they're doing.
They've done a bunch of these collaborations.

Speaker 190 So kudos to them for putting their hands and having an impact in the communities that

Speaker 190 they're working in. But it's dope to have this close to home here in Rochester Hills, Michigan.
So I'm going to take my Raptor over there and get it all fitted up. I've seen

Speaker 190 all the accessories they got going on.

Speaker 7 I can't wait to hear that thing, Purr.

Speaker 206 And, you know, obviously, Real Trucks got it cooking.

Speaker 59 And you can see the brand new custom Ford F-150.

Speaker 5 It'll be showcased at Real Truck, the store in Rochester Hills, Michigan.

Speaker 158 And then in 2027, the vehicle will be auctioned off with 100% of the proceeds going to Calvin Johnson Jr.

Speaker 111 Foundation.

Speaker 45 That's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 14 I like whenever the community companies and great people come together to make Magic happen.

Speaker 32 Shout out to you, Calvin.

Speaker 80 Let's talk about magic.

Speaker 135 This Detroit Lions team, brother, hey, listen, I know that you could probably still play.

Speaker 15 And maybe you get that truck all suited and booty.

Speaker 34 You start feeling like you're 28 again, but this feels like a team you would want to play for this detroit lions team what is your take on this particular squad

Speaker 190 yeah man no shade to any of my coaches i played for rod marinali jim swartz uh jim codwell but uh dan man that player coach man is nothing like having a player coach i was fortunate to have a player coach in sean jefferson um throughout half of my career in detroit and i understand you know the buy-in that you get and that's what those guys got up there they got buy-in because half of that staff not most of that staff are former player coaches but just the the energy energy and the environment to compete and to thrive and become the best version of yourself, not just player, but yourself.

Speaker 190 That's what Dan is creating there, man. It's a great culture.

Speaker 202 Gonna win the Super Bowl?

Speaker 116 What do you think?

Speaker 191 Are they gonna win the Super Bowl?

Speaker 199 You think they can? What do you think?

Speaker 7 You think they can?

Speaker 61 Because let me tell you, Foxy over here, right?

Speaker 116 Yeah.

Speaker 98 Foxy, diehard.

Speaker 112 Foxy loves you.

Speaker 17 Foxy has been praying to the football gods for another Calvin Johnson since you were debuted as the lion and forever as a lion, right, Foxy?

Speaker 217 1,000%, Calvin. Thank you for everything you did in Detroit, brother.

Speaker 178 Yeah, but are we at the point this year?

Speaker 58 You know, are we at the point this year where you can go on a run, or do you think you're setting up for like next year?

Speaker 37 For instance, both new coordinators.

Speaker 5 Now, I don't know if Calvin Shepard's going to be there next year.

Speaker 159 He's just defensive coordinator.

Speaker 17 His name is starting to get floated in a couple of different jobs because of how awesome he is.

Speaker 93 You talk about former player.

Speaker 60 We are teammates with him.

Speaker 87 He's beloved.

Speaker 139 He might be LSU's head coach.

Speaker 99 Exactly.

Speaker 29 That is what we're saying.

Speaker 9 Like, backsliding.

Speaker 84 Yeah.

Speaker 131 Yeah, but I'm saying, though, like with the brand new coordinators, with everything, do you think this team has the same juice as last year where we thought they were going to go win the Super Bowl?

Speaker 30 Do you think same thing this year if we just missed the injury bug as much as we had last year?

Speaker 190 I mean, we know we have the juice.

Speaker 190 There's like, you know, last game, you know, a little bit of a struggle, but we saw there's a little stretch there over the last month where they got hot on offense and they're really moving the ball up and down the field, both running the ball and passing the ball.

Speaker 190 If we cannot continue to do that, you know, if we get stuck in one facet, then yeah,

Speaker 190 we're not going to, you know,

Speaker 190 our days days are numbered.

Speaker 211 Put it like that.

Speaker 25 Yeah, D-Bot has a question for you.

Speaker 139 Yeah, Calvin, I know you're rooting for your Lions, but what's it like still watching your old quarterback, Matt Stafford, still spending it, still playing at a high level, MVP level?

Speaker 139 What have you seen from him, I guess, differently, like his evolution from the time that you played with him?

Speaker 190 Man, what up, bro?

Speaker 219 Good to see you. Good to see you too, brother.

Speaker 190 Man, it just looks so easy. It looks so easy for him right now.

Speaker 190 He looks, you know, stressless.

Speaker 190 You know, that's inside of Matthew that, you know, i got to see latter part of my career and he's just he's just taking it to a whole nother level he's gaining you know different making different throws um not all fast balls um and he's just seeing the field really good i wish he could uh wish he would have he's he's still not running the ball like i want him to as a quarterback but it has never been mass game either yeah but he used to take some massive hits oh yeah i mean the shots he could take i mean it was he's tough dude still doing it everybody remembers his mic'd up where it feels like his shoulders out of place

Speaker 14 and he didn't score we gotta go to another play

Speaker 98 ah.

Speaker 178 And then somebody comes over to him.

Speaker 65 Ah, ah, you know, and then he's still.

Speaker 33 Cleveland game, I bet.

Speaker 65 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 163 It is like, what a dog, especially for how long he's been able to do it.

Speaker 59 All right.

Speaker 47 Last question here for you.

Speaker 5 We talked topical NFL stuff.

Speaker 93 Go ahead, Con Man.

Speaker 204 Yeah, Calvin. Sauce Gardner got traded yesterday from the Jets to the Colts.
What type of corner for you gave you the most trouble? And what type of corner is Sauce Gardner?

Speaker 204 And how much better do you think the Colts defense will be because of him?

Speaker 190 Definitely an improvement to that Colts defense. For me, the corners corners that gave me the most problem were the ones that didn't necessarily necessarily press.

Speaker 190 I like it when you're aggressive and press.

Speaker 190 But the ones that more so played that catch technique where they were like, you know, three yards off, they didn't really go at you, let you more so come into them, and then they kind of latch on.

Speaker 190 And then with that, you know, if you're a long,

Speaker 190 a tall, long-arm corner, those are the ones that gave me the most trouble because, I mean, not at today's game, because today's game, you can't touch the receiver.

Speaker 190 But back in the day or like 10 years ago, when I was playing, yeah, they would latch on that first five, 10 yards and it never get caught.

Speaker 84 you know yeah they would always call it really properly at the first five yards and end it there and i do love hearing older players especially ones that are like the greatest of all time going would have been nice maybe yeah so i'm let me i'm taller than everybody i'm faster than everybody i can jump higher than everybody and they're not allowed to slow me down at all that is the rules precisely sweet boom we are doing this one

Speaker 5 you did that back in the day as well though so you need to know that we all understand your greatness and anytime a good wide receiver comes out they always pop the clip out and go, I don't know if they're ever going to get the Calvin Johnson punt bracket coverage, though.

Speaker 15 And that's like kind of a staple now.

Speaker 63 You changed the game, brother.

Speaker 220 We appreciate the hell out of you.

Speaker 190 Appreciate you, bro. You changing the game right now, man.
I love the show. Y'all keep it up.

Speaker 45 All right, we need you, Sue.

Speaker 39 We need you to come back whenever we have more time.

Speaker 47 We love chatting with you, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 6 That's Calvin Johnson.

Speaker 133 Real Truck, Rochester Hills, Michigan.

Speaker 2 That guy from Wells, I believe in Africa.

Speaker 107 Yeah.

Speaker 60 I believe he was building to he has a greenery company, previously Hall of Fame football career, the now a truck partnership.

Speaker 92 It's like this guy,

Speaker 39 one of the most well-rounded business people of all time.

Speaker 200 I mean, unbelievable.

Speaker 36 And then what he did on the field was great.

Speaker 139 Great family as well. Come from great family.

Speaker 64 Georgia Tech.

Speaker 212 They first half using them.

Speaker 160 Yeah. Can you imagine if he went to Oklahoma and not Georgia Tech?

Speaker 117 Yeah, Oklahoma, too.

Speaker 221 Thank God he wasn't there.

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Speaker 119 It's not just me here, the Toxic Tables here at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt, nine-year NFL vet, host of Everything DB, Good D, Bad D, and also the NFL matchup show that you can see on ESPN

Speaker 89 Dio,

Speaker 33 depending upon what carrier you're having.

Speaker 167 Let's make sure we figure that out.

Speaker 168 Please.

Speaker 105 Please.

Speaker 192 We need it.

Speaker 170 Bad. Now they clarify.

Speaker 13 What I said yesterday has obviously made its rounds where me saying, hey, stop saying.

Speaker 160 Go to the website.

Speaker 105 Yeah.

Speaker 91 I need you to stop doing that to me.

Speaker 66 The way I said it made it sound like I was taking shots at the people that were saying it or tweeting it.

Speaker 212 Sure, because they agreed to do it.

Speaker 60 This is mostly from whoever said, hey, you know what?

Speaker 91 All our liked people, we need to throw them right in the middle of this fire too.

Speaker 161 You know, have them go tell people to go.

Speaker 45 That is mostly my, so if you like to correct it and run it back, that is who I am.

Speaker 225 It's not necessarily like, hey, Herb Street, I'm saying, hey, because Herb Street was probably informed by somebody, like, hey, would you like to, that person needs to not do that.

Speaker 111 Okay, Herbie's got enough on his plate already.

Speaker 21 We don't need to be putting, because it's, at the end of the day, you're going to get 20 people that go to that link.

Speaker 192 Okay.

Speaker 26 We know this because of affiliate business.

Speaker 62 You know, the beginning of the internet business days is links.

Speaker 18 Okay. Send people your links.

Speaker 45 So companies know how many people are using your thing.

Speaker 32 So do you have an active audience?

Speaker 24 So then we've done the whole send the website thing. We've done the whole, what happens, people very lazy.

Speaker 120 Okay.

Speaker 45 Even on an app, people are lazy.

Speaker 120 They don't even want to do it.

Speaker 60 And as soon as they see you doing that, their immediate reaction is, no, you figure it out, smart guy.

Speaker 84 And also, Shill corporate shit.

Speaker 23 Oh, you want me to fix the problem?

Speaker 226 Okay, yeah, I'm the one.

Speaker 25 So I just think it's all bad, I think, for the people that I am a big fan of.

Speaker 93 But on that note, none of us are a fan of the situation.

Speaker 91 Everybody's trying to get this thing over with.

Speaker 169 We all do, I think, except for potentially the people that are currently actually sitting at a table that aren't reading the petitions that are coming from a website.

Speaker 175 No, those people are not doing that.

Speaker 208 That is not how that's going.

Speaker 127 So we need them to put their source down for the good of all.

Speaker 160 Yeah, right now.

Speaker 157 Right now.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 160 Kind of needed it last Friday, but need it right now.

Speaker 203 Ink to paper. Yeah.

Speaker 68 We need it.

Speaker 88 Actually, you know what?

Speaker 129 Get the deal done.

Speaker 66 Celebrate for a night. Okay.

Speaker 93 Don't tell us until tomorrow. Sure.

Speaker 18 But just we need it Saturday.

Speaker 60 We need this by Saturday morning.

Speaker 175 Okay. Need this by Saturday morning.

Speaker 139 Maybe pull a Jerry Jones by Friday night.

Speaker 157 You're going to be happy tomorrow morning.

Speaker 98 Oh, wake up.

Speaker 213 Hey, it's Christmas Eve, isn't it?

Speaker 170 Yeah.

Speaker 186 A little smile on your face.

Speaker 32 Why don't you leave some cookies out for

Speaker 64 Santa Claus Jerry Jones?

Speaker 45 Yeah, maybe there is a little bit of that.

Speaker 54 That's what we're going to live in.

Speaker 68 We're going to live in that world where that's going to happen.

Speaker 207 Congrats to the people that are negotiating this deal that are definitely reading the website telling them that they need to get a deal done to kind of drive them to get the negotiation to the right place.

Speaker 39 Congrats to them getting that deal done for all of us.

Speaker 178 Thank you. You guys are heroes.
Thank you.

Speaker 5 A lot of negative things said about all of you guys, but you guys are now heroes for getting it back in the middle of football season.

Speaker 149 Need it.

Speaker 17 12-year NFL veteran, Super Bowl champion, that's AQ Shipley.

Speaker 6 We appreciate the hell out of you.

Speaker 32 And joining us live from Manatic attic in Ohio is a man who has a statement to make about YouTube TV and ESPN's current disagreement.

Speaker 63 Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk.

Speaker 105 AJ, the floor is awesome.

Speaker 98 Give him hell, Hawk.

Speaker 86 AJ, the website.

Speaker 189 Get to the website, AJ. Yeah, I do appreciate you letting me start off with that.
Yeah, I actually went to the website four or five times and signed up and, you know, I guess typed up my complaints.

Speaker 189 I don't know why you went out of frame. You must be going and checking the website as well to see the massive amount of traffic that's got right now.

Speaker 27 No, the computer's right here.

Speaker 136 I was letting you kind of have the floor.

Speaker 133 What I was saying is the floor is yours, basically, is what I was saying there for you to do that.

Speaker 52 But on that note, thank you for going to that website because it does mean that you would like to be able to watch ball again.

Speaker 106 I'm the same way.

Speaker 36 I didn't go to the website because I thought to myself, is this a waste of time?

Speaker 117 Maybe.

Speaker 136 Maybe it is. But maybe it is.

Speaker 189 What is at the website? Has anyone truly gone there and checked out what you do?

Speaker 27 Yeah, so there's a couple of different options there.

Speaker 200 You want to send a tweet?

Speaker 163 You want to send a tweet? We got you right here.

Speaker 76 You want to do this? You want to send an email?

Speaker 60 You can do this right here.

Speaker 47 You want to watch? You can do this right here.

Speaker 66 It's got options, right?

Speaker 164 It's more options.

Speaker 170 It's more.

Speaker 142 You actually get a link to get to more links.

Speaker 76 And it's like, people love that, especially in 2025.

Speaker 24 Now, maybe in, I don't know, when the internet started,

Speaker 159 people loved being able to just kind of,

Speaker 203 oh, yeah, this is fun.

Speaker 189 Wouldn't Al Gore started it?

Speaker 195 I do believe he is credited with birthing the internet.

Speaker 105 And

Speaker 62 what a wild turn the internet has taken now that it kind of.

Speaker 42 Al Gore's?

Speaker 91 I believe Al Gore's.

Speaker 168 That was Beyonce.

Speaker 189 I thought he claimed

Speaker 189 Beyonce. One of the two, yeah.

Speaker 117 Beyonce started the internet.

Speaker 139 Maybe together. It was Beyonce's internet.

Speaker 18 Well, I think that is a section of the internet.

Speaker 138 Like, Beyonce certainly has a portion of the internet.

Speaker 8 Yeah, the beehive.

Speaker 213 Yes, exactly. It is.

Speaker 45 Yeah, and you buzz in and you buzz out.

Speaker 22 There's also NBA Twitter, which we know.

Speaker 38 Yep.

Speaker 15 Now, it did have a rebrand, NBA Twitter.

Speaker 96 Always, always been the best part of Twitter, I would say.

Speaker 139 But black Twitter is still there.

Speaker 43 Whoa.

Speaker 139 I know what you're saying.

Speaker 116 No, me?

Speaker 29 No, no, that's not what I'm saying.

Speaker 30 Boy, you get dropped into there, though, as a what.

Speaker 29 It is a great place to be or worse place to be of all time.

Speaker 89 Depending upon how it's going.

Speaker 139 You just never want to be the main character.

Speaker 33 Never. Never.

Speaker 136 Now, you just want to, but if you get into the,

Speaker 122 what portion of Twitter are you referring to now?

Speaker 100 It's black Twitter.

Speaker 4 Okay, so if you happen to get into that particular portion of Twitter, boy, and you are a what, it is, enjoy the ride and go ahead and just keep updating that thing because you're about to hear shit that you have never heard before.

Speaker 6 AJ, it is great to have you back.

Speaker 88 We missed you.

Speaker 108 Sauce Gardner is now a member of the Indianapolis Colts.

Speaker 39 Quinn Williams is now a member of the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 118 There was actually some massive moves made yesterday.

Speaker 80 What is your takeaway from the trade deadline as you kind of gather it all in?

Speaker 189 Definitely more superstars moving around than I thought. And I said, it felt like it happened, obviously, late.
I mean, Sauce going to India.

Speaker 189 I instantly thought of you and just thought how I've seen the clip of everything. During the pre-record, I've seen it all.

Speaker 189 It's pretty awesome. It's bizarre that it actually happened, honestly.

Speaker 189 Like the timing of it everything about it is wild and sauce is awesome like why not if you're the cults i think it's i didn't shraigs say he feels like it's a win-win like in that whole situation even though people can say whatever whoever won the trade right now shraigs has to say that because he has friends on both sides remember these insiders have to play fence all the time okay you have to it has to be some sort of positive except for with the lions i don't know if shraigs has any ties to the lions because remember before the season he was like upside

Speaker 39 friend of mine okay even though the team looks bad and he's gonna inevitably not play back Down, I don't think Detroit Lions.

Speaker 26 That was one of his misses.

Speaker 76 He was taking massive takes, and that was, he literally laid out.

Speaker 46 This is a massive take, a massive say.

Speaker 92 But I think Detroit Lions are going to have a down year.

Speaker 89 And I'm like, wow, Shraig's never really does it.

Speaker 103 Shraig's is always at least something positive for me everywhere.

Speaker 217 That's life of an issue. That was my takeaway.
Shraigs knows no one at the lions. So, hey, this is a team I can bury and not make anyone mad.

Speaker 52 See, that's journalism.

Speaker 23 We're trying to get to the bottom of these takes, AJ.

Speaker 75 We've missed you, buddy.

Speaker 93 I don't know if you know this, but last night, huge night in the college football world.

Speaker 17 The actual rankings in the actual bracket that is coming from the actual group of people that are going to be deciding who the college football playoff inevitably is at the end of the year, whenever they start at 12 and count down to one, rolled out their first official rankings of the year.

Speaker 18 We saw them put their hats on the hat tree, and now we see what they came up with in that room.

Speaker 24 Let's go to hammer, dad, tad, AP Tone.

Speaker 112 Tone, what did the College Football Playoff Committee tell us with their first projected 12-team bracket?

Speaker 198 Yeah, I don't think there was a ton of surprises here. There was two things that I took away from looking at this.
And the first one being Oregon at nine.

Speaker 198 When I projected it, I thought they would be higher, but the committee disagreed with me. They are the lowest ranked one-loss team from the Big Ten or SEC.

Speaker 198 They are behind Bama, Georgia, Ole Miss, and Texas Tech, who's in the Big 12 as far as one-loss team goes. teams go.
So they are

Speaker 198 like, Oregon needs to be careful. Oregon still has Iowa this weekend at Kinnick, which is huge, USC and Washington.
Like all those teams are ranked. All those teams are good.

Speaker 198 Like if Oregon messes around and loses any of those games,

Speaker 198 they're definitely going to drop them behind Texas or Oklahoma teams like that.

Speaker 198 So like Oregon, I wouldn't be happy if I were them when this came out because one more loss and they could definitely be out of the playoff as a two-loss team, which would suck for them.

Speaker 198 And then the other thing I was looking at, Notre Dame's at 10 right now as a two-loss team. But go behind them, the two teams right behind them, Texas and Oklahoma.
Texas has Georgia and AM left.

Speaker 198 Like if they beat Georgia and AM, guess what? Texas is going to be ahead of Notre Dame. So Notre Dame drops to 11.
Oklahoma has Bama and Mizzou left. And that Bama is at Bama.

Speaker 198 Like if Oklahoma were somehow beat Bama on the road, I think they jumped Notre Dame too. So while Notre Dame's in there right now, I don't know if they're safe.
Obviously, if they lose, they're out.

Speaker 198 But Oregon as well as a one-loss Oregon, if you drop to two losses, I think you might go behind Texas and Oklahoma in that situation too.

Speaker 198 So those two teams is what I kind of took away from last night's rankings.

Speaker 163 Okay, let's check out what Tone's predicted CFP committee bracket look like versus what the CFP committee bracket was.

Speaker 45 What did you get wrong?

Speaker 83 You got Oregon ranked differently, but basically have all the same teams.

Speaker 27 You basically are seeing the field how the CFP committee seeing the field.

Speaker 107 Do you feel that way?

Speaker 198 Yeah, as you said earlier, I saw all those old whites walk in there and put their helmets up on that hat rack. And they went in there to do their business.
And yeah, I had Oregon higher.

Speaker 198 I thought they would be higher. Maybe five was a little too high, but I didn't think they would be behind Texas Tech.

Speaker 198 Like, I thought for sure they'd be ahead of Texas Tech just because normally there's no respect for the Big 12. Not saying there shouldn't be.
I'm just saying in the committee's eyes.

Speaker 198 But yeah, all the teams were correct. And just kind of Oregon was really the only one that was out of place.

Speaker 19 Okay, what out of baby tongue?

Speaker 29 Twyer best in the game? Thank you.

Speaker 30 I see you're growing back your beard. I thought maybe you were just sticking with mustache for a while or maybe this the look.

Speaker 198 No, the just the mustache was a horrendous look.

Speaker 198 That was a miscalculation of epic proportions on my part.

Speaker 57 But no,

Speaker 117 I don't mind that.

Speaker 198 I don't mind the mustache with like the, it's starting to come in. This is a week's worth of growth.
Maybe like another week with the mustache.

Speaker 132 I'm starting to, we're starting to find it a bit here.

Speaker 116 Yeah, you

Speaker 75 holiday season, Tom.

Speaker 116 Holiday season. Congrats to you.
Thank you.

Speaker 18 Steelers get a huge win over the Colts.

Speaker 39 Tone batting 1,000 in college football, and he's starting to find it with his face.

Speaker 127 Joining us now is a guy who's starting to find it in the booth, isn't he?

Speaker 214 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 174 Listen, I was listening for a long time, this guy talk about a game in which his brother dominated, and my team was the best team in the league and was losing pretty bad.

Speaker 73 And I'd say he did a great job doing it.

Speaker 24 Ladies and gentlemen, future First Ballot Hall of Famer, a member of the Bull Ring of Honor, ladies and gentlemen, JJ Watts.

Speaker 23 Jage, owner of Burnley as well, and Espanol.

Speaker 137 The soccer team's absolutely crushing it.

Speaker 129 How come the Texans aren't calling it the Bull Ring of Honor?

Speaker 5 How come? I saw there's an announcement.

Speaker 63 There's another member going in, a fourth member going in, I believe, this weekend. It just said Ring of Honor.

Speaker 83 I thought for sure this must have been a Mandela effect.

Speaker 28 I thought it was called the Bull Ring of Honor.

Speaker 116 It's not.

Speaker 133 No, it's just a Ring of Honor.

Speaker 8 Come on. That's a miss.

Speaker 65 Yeah.

Speaker 227 I mean, you have certainly taken that bull by the horns and led it around the track. So it's got a second nickname for sure.

Speaker 129 No, I thought that was the official title. Yeah, I thought that's what it was.

Speaker 206 And then I saw the logo and the photo, and it's like, oh, it's not that.

Speaker 227 But we did welcome Miss Janice McNair, sweet, sweet soul, one of the best women ever. So she is now up there and rightfully so.

Speaker 177 She's the best.

Speaker 106 So there's four of you now in the Bull Ring of Honor.

Speaker 60 Are you guys going to play Euchre?

Speaker 63 Is the crew going to get together and maybe play a little cards against each other?

Speaker 227 I don't know. I don't know.
I'm there this weekend. I'm very excited.
I got a Houston game this weekend. So I'm really, really looking forward to that and

Speaker 227 really, really hoping we can get some offensive production going.

Speaker 227 That would be a plus.

Speaker 22 Yeah, that would be a plus for an offense to maybe not turn the ball over and do what they've been doing all season, you know, especially in a game where maybe it's a homecoming for one particular squad.

Speaker 17 And let's go back to the game that you called this past weekend as opposed to the one that you're going to talk about this upcoming weekend, which we'll certainly dive into.

Speaker 32 CJ Stroud, that's a big hit.

Speaker 207 And obviously did not look good at all, but we'll dive into that later.

Speaker 34 Let's talk about Colts Steelers.

Speaker 142 You're obviously calling it your brother has huge play after huge play.

Speaker 17 The defense, very dominant.

Speaker 6 Obviously, a special teams turnover as well.

Speaker 17 This Colts offense didn't look the same as it always has.

Speaker 18 Look, Jonathan Taylor was never really able to get going.

Speaker 118 It's because the Steelers defense was so damn stingy.

Speaker 21 Your takeaway from the game is this is the Steelers team that everybody.

Speaker 27 everybody kind of thought they could be coming into the season and has the defense kind of flipped the switch on or is it just against the Colts when the 2005 team's in the building and that's the only time they're going to be good all season?

Speaker 17 What are your thoughts as you watch the game from inside?

Speaker 227 I got a lot of thoughts. First of all, I'm going to go ahead and say that my prediction from last week of they just couldn't win in those ugly throwback uniforms, maybe that was true.

Speaker 227 They put the regulars back on and they play good again.

Speaker 227 The 2005 team being in attendance, certainly. You don't want to embarrass yourselves in front of that group.
You got Dick LeBeau and all just the legends there.

Speaker 227 So the defense wanted to come out and play good, I'm sure. But

Speaker 227 it was just all week long they had talked about simplifying their defense. You know, in our meetings and everything, they said they wanted to simplify it and just play fast.

Speaker 227 And I do think that the Colts may have abandoned the run a little bit early, partially because the Steelers were playing the run very well.

Speaker 227 But the Colts offense we've seen all year is efficient. It is on schedule.
They stay ahead of the sticks. They get tons of yardage on first down, creating short seconds, short third downs.

Speaker 227 And they just weren't really in that. The first drive of the game, they go out there and score a touchdown.
But then the game got a little weird. They had that muff punt.

Speaker 227 They had, obviously, the interceptions, the force fumble by TJ. That was really kind of in the stadium, the turning point.
You could feel the momentum change.

Speaker 227 But I mean, six takeaways in the game is a ton. That Steelers defense really did have a good day.
And

Speaker 227 people are always looking for a reason to doubt the Colts. You know this.
You're part of it. We We were talking to Zaire Franklin about it, and he was like, yeah, they always move the goalposts.

Speaker 227 It was, you know, we hadn't beaten anybody. Then it was, we hadn't beaten anybody outside.
Then it wasn't on grass.

Speaker 227 And so this is kind of one of those first ones where, was it because it was outside on grass? Who knows? But looking for them to get back on track in Berlin.

Speaker 18 It wasn't because of the grass.

Speaker 68 Okay, the boys are just fine going into a mutter if they have to.

Speaker 115 Okay, they just had an off game and the ball was going obviously a different direction than it had all season.

Speaker 90 We liked that that happened as a fan.

Speaker 28 Yeah, let's get it out of the way.

Speaker 137 Okay, let's get it out of the way.

Speaker 226 We're still seven and two, still leading everything, but it's six turnovers, you assume, and you only lose by seven.

Speaker 180 Hey, almost had it at the end.

Speaker 70 Appreciate you shouting out the old on-side kick.

Speaker 74 I appreciate the love.

Speaker 227 Last on-side kick. Didn't realize that it's been that long since an on-site kick.
I mean, that speaks to how on. We got to fix this on-side kick thing, man.

Speaker 227 There's got to be at least some sort of chance here.

Speaker 17 So since he just got one against the Bears, but I think that was even, that was because it was a shorter kick and the Bears end up hitting it with the foot.

Speaker 78 But I think there's some protections on the guy but yeah you guys showing this one was really cool really really uh sweet because i completely forget about that one to be honest yeah i just bent it over a guy's back don't worry about it bent it like back

Speaker 98 i don't even to be honest when you showed it i had not thought of that particular kick uh ever really since retirement because there's so many more you know the one against houston i thought for sure it was going to be ours i thought for sure it was ours yeah we had a good time yeah okay so we need to stop showing this see i mean that's a nasty ball i mean that is an absolute nobody that you thought that was getting recovered you cannot tell me that you thought that was getting recovered no but it did dance exactly how i wanted it to i mean it did exactly what i wanted it to do i i mean i bent that son of a bit i mean how do you gave it a chance you gave your you gave the you know your cover team a chance to get it and that thing was dancing that thing's dancing like a top

Speaker 4 that guy's scared to death this thing's coming at me sideways so i you know i don't know what to do and he tries to fall because he thinks it's going to take a quick thing because it's oblong yeah right brother bent it like beckham it just got knighted i think yesterday around it boom Let me hit a Go Row.

Speaker 200 Hey, brother, run a Go Row.

Speaker 174 I'm going to send this thing until you're on the other side.

Speaker 85 Yeah, I need to like that one more.

Speaker 136 Completely out of memory.

Speaker 80 Had no idea that that even happened until you guys showed it.

Speaker 17 So you're kind of breaking news to me about that.

Speaker 159 I'm like, man, I fucking forgot about it.

Speaker 139 That is a very nerve-wracking position to be in as that hands guy who's responsible to fucking try to read the bounce. That is very, very nerve-wracking.

Speaker 61 See, a lot of mine were surprised, though.

Speaker 46 And the onside kick now has kind of gone away from that completely.

Speaker 93 It's just kind of, to your point, Jage, it has kind of just become over yeah this one come on yeah this one was cool this one was cool jage you don't need to go to the well this many times yeah listen i didn't know foxy was going to be doing this i didn't know we had all of them back there but i do appreciate the fact that i'm going down glory days we got even on the field

Speaker 62 that's what people were wondering you know and the reason why it was wide open is because we had hit a surprise on site game to the right earlier in the year and then we hit one to the left earlier in the year so houston texans were like well if we go on right and the left, this guy can't do shit.

Speaker 91 They completely forgot about the middle of the field.

Speaker 24 Now, I'm not saying that's a bad idea because no kicker really

Speaker 10 thinks that they're safe when they do that kick. So they, you know, as I'm kicking that, I think, oh, I'm going to get my spine.

Speaker 17 Fractured here, you know, because I'm going to go down on this and this is going to become a

Speaker 192 boom boom boom.

Speaker 149 So as I'm doing that, I'm literally like, you see me like, if you saw my face, it's like a ready for full.

Speaker 117 Oh, no, I might not be able to walk out of here.

Speaker 101 I mean, who knows?

Speaker 93 Nobody touches me.

Speaker 117 I mean, they weren't even close.

Speaker 177 I mean, what a perfect situation.

Speaker 75 It was the greatest. I mean, I got up.

Speaker 164 I'm like, oh,

Speaker 2 no contact.

Speaker 93 This is the greatest of all. On that note, thank you for the love.

Speaker 17 Tell the CBS people that I very much appreciate them showing me do something good as opposed to something bad, which is normally the case in this entire situation.

Speaker 107 I would like to let you guys know, you called a good game, too.

Speaker 170 I thought you called a very, very good game.

Speaker 226 All right, let's talk about some other shit going on around the league.

Speaker 179 Go ahead, AJ.

Speaker 189 JG, I know it's most important on top of your list what you you want to talk about.

Speaker 189 Is it true that you may clone yourself and possibly your brothers with this whole situation with Tom Brady cloning his dog, I believe?

Speaker 65 Come on.

Speaker 139 It's a great question, AJ.

Speaker 191 Come on.

Speaker 98 You said it's a good thing.

Speaker 191 We're giving away

Speaker 84 football soon, but hey, Tom Brady is the greatest football player of all time.

Speaker 9 Certainly topical.

Speaker 229 There's a lot of dog talk in the analyst world.

Speaker 181 I'm just going to keep my dogs on my Instagram story, and that's gonna be about the end of it I don't they're not hold on no did we know that I could clone Valerie my dog who's a pit bull sharpe dog who I absolutely love now I don't know if they're just gonna be able to pick up her mentality and mindset from being a street dog and sheltered dog and everything like that I don't know if you're gonna be able to clone that but if if Valerie can just be two years old again just sleeping at the yeah at the floor of the vet it's like hold on I got the same dog oh she's about a different attitude now it's like okay yeah I mean Valerie's going through a different stage and then I just got Valerie for the next 50 years is that what's happening that's the tongue right he told me chuck the big one is chuck the the hefty fella they won't let you clone him

Speaker 199 you could clone him

Speaker 189 so much on

Speaker 153 i mean give him a break okay

Speaker 217 the ottoman can we can we can we clone the ottoman and just shrink him okay the ottoman is

Speaker 180 stronger legs and he has an incredible stature, I will tell you.

Speaker 31 He stands there strong and fat, but he's very tough to move and he's stubborn.

Speaker 74 Actually, if I could clone Chuck and get a better mindset, which is possible, I guess, maybe I do that.

Speaker 229 Another shot from the beginning. Yeah.

Speaker 15 So, and maybe we did get him on Doggy Zempic from day one because we know what's in his blood.

Speaker 117 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 17 We know he can become super fat.

Speaker 135 So the cloning of.

Speaker 227 It's starting back at the start, right? It's like, it's just like a baby.

Speaker 65 It's all over again. Yeah, here's Chuck.
I had to say, of course,

Speaker 105 I don't know if that's good.

Speaker 98 God, man, that's unfair.

Speaker 213 And I'm the only one that didn't have a leash on, you know, because he's too fat for the leash at the games.

Speaker 200 So he ran though. Look at him.
His little legs.

Speaker 160 Damn near one.

Speaker 161 If it was skiing, he would have won.

Speaker 105 Yeah.

Speaker 199 That man is not chucked off.

Speaker 143 Tay, we're not thinking about cloning Chuck anyways.

Speaker 89 Chuck's got a long life ahead.

Speaker 60 Valerie, though, certainly on her final

Speaker 170 days here.

Speaker 229 AJ,

Speaker 227 I feel like you've looked into this before. I feel like you've looked into this before.

Speaker 189 To clone animals or to clone humans? What are you talking about?

Speaker 227 All of it. I I think you've looked into all of it.

Speaker 189 No, I saw the movie Multiplicity. It doesn't always work out.
There's always going to be some defects when you do that.

Speaker 98 So I don't think that's a smart thing.

Speaker 189 Well, the dogs, if you could bring back Carl, my old German Shepherd, I would do it. If he had Carl's mindset, that's what I need.
That mindset.

Speaker 144 I don't think they can clone the mindset, JJ.

Speaker 62 I don't think they can do that.

Speaker 68 I don't know. Tom would have to do that.

Speaker 105 It's up to you.

Speaker 227 Parenting, nature versus nurture. Maybe you, maybe it's you that put the mindset in him.

Speaker 164 I don't want to give me that much credit for Valerie for sure.

Speaker 42 I don't know about Carl.

Speaker 45 Maybe my wife kind of carl was carl yeah he was hey rest in peace to carl carl was a hell of a dog tom brady doing this though does add to the thing about like man these super duper duper rich people just do sweet stuff all the time found out he can clone his dog yep give me her and uh you asked is it a baby dog well yeah i think jj asked it as well i don't know if it's a dumb question today when you clone it is it just do you pick the thank you for asking because i i'm with you dude is it like a circus does it come back yeah does it come back as you know start from scratch or are we starting from like what are we doing Start from doing scratch.

Speaker 105 I mean, start as a Petri dish.

Speaker 65 I just want to be able to rest.

Speaker 139 I think it's fucking weird. And I thought I was in the majority, but apparently I'm not after the show.
I'm not a big pet guy, so maybe that's what it is. But it was more people on the

Speaker 139 other side.

Speaker 160 But what was the consensus, though? It was the same thing. It was, hey, if I can clone Murph and he is the exact same dog as he is right now, I'll take him.

Speaker 160 If I get a knockoff version and he's not acting like him, I'll kick that dog in the stomach as hard as I can because that's not the dog I want.

Speaker 8 I want my dog.

Speaker 117 Don't kick your dog in the stomach.

Speaker 65 Well, but this team is

Speaker 160 what I'm saying. This thing's a monster.

Speaker 139 He's created by science.

Speaker 105 He's not a dog.

Speaker 98 He's not my dog. Put him down.

Speaker 67 Listen, Tom Breddy, enjoy your dog, dude.

Speaker 123 Okay, I don't think any of us are going to clone our dogs, but 50K, too.

Speaker 199 You got it.

Speaker 227 You're just calling it the same name. Like, do you just go like

Speaker 227 just pretend?

Speaker 105 Definitely.

Speaker 59 It's like the Uga situation.

Speaker 28 This is Valerie 2.

Speaker 197 This is Valerie 3.

Speaker 210 You know, just like

Speaker 7 the Buffalo, the

Speaker 178 Ralphie.

Speaker 98 Ralphie. Ralphie.

Speaker 59 They got that figured out.

Speaker 47 Have you seen the newest one?

Speaker 160 He's got spunk.

Speaker 8 A lot of spunk.

Speaker 30 Have you heard why the new Ralphie was introduced, Jage?

Speaker 227 No, but I do remember our Buffalo Bison talk.

Speaker 214 We did have that.

Speaker 137 Okay, so what happened was Ralphie 5, I think is which one it was,

Speaker 28 middle career prime.

Speaker 91 Okay, they thought they had at least three, four more years of Ralphie kind of giving it a go out there.

Speaker 116 And Ralphie just said, nope, I'm not doing it anymore.

Speaker 43 They brought

Speaker 91 some hard times right there for the Colts. Why'd you do that, Jake?

Speaker 111 I'm talking about Ralphie Six coming in and saving the day.

Speaker 143 That's what Danny Dimes is.

Speaker 94 That's what Danny Dimes is saying.

Speaker 229 Maybe Danny Dimes is Ralphie 6.

Speaker 36 Danny Dimes is Ralphie 6.

Speaker 99 That is 100%.

Speaker 198 I don't know.

Speaker 184 Things aren't going very well out in Colorado.

Speaker 70 No, but Ralphie's killing it.

Speaker 2 Have you seen this bison run?

Speaker 106 It runs.

Speaker 198 It does. It does.
You're exactly right. But like Colorado and Wisconsin might be a pick them right now.
Surprise.

Speaker 2 Okay, so let's talk about Wisconsin.

Speaker 106 You own Burnley and Espanol.

Speaker 13 Why don't you own the Wisconsin football team?

Speaker 87 You know, I see Willie Compton giving speeches and donating his time and everything over there at Nebraska.

Speaker 89 You're both red.

Speaker 35 You're both in the middle of America.

Speaker 53 You're potentially competing for the same type of...

Speaker 92 players.

Speaker 196 Feels like you got to step up and maybe sell one of those soccer teams so you can invest directly into Luke Fickles pockets in that team.

Speaker 153 Have you thought about that?

Speaker 214 Yeah.

Speaker 227 We need to play better. Yes, we do.
Significantly.

Speaker 69 I want to go give a speech.

Speaker 227 I did. Didn't work.

Speaker 98 Oh, no.

Speaker 98 I'm so sorry. Let's move along.
Let's move along.

Speaker 65 Let's definitely move along.

Speaker 26 D-Bud has a question for you, Dan.

Speaker 139 Hey, I know it's a lot of travel right now. You sound a little backed up.
I mean, I know. You kind of take

Speaker 139 you as

Speaker 139 a homeopathic guy, not the big farm guy. So get your sleep, get your rest, hydrate.
But back to the business.

Speaker 124 Also, there's some drugs you can take.

Speaker 139 No, no, no.

Speaker 214 This is a raw dog. Let me hear both sides.

Speaker 227 Debunt, what should I do and Pat?

Speaker 139 Sleep, hydrate, and eat right. You already exercise, so that's all you need.

Speaker 169 And for me, you just call somebody that's in the super duper world and say, hey, these are my feelings right now.

Speaker 129 And they'll say, you got it.

Speaker 52 We're sending two IVs to you with the nurse in about 14 minutes.

Speaker 169 And then you'll say, we're going to give you this.

Speaker 63 And then you're going to have that thing out of you in about 72 hours.

Speaker 81 I would never do that because I don't like getting pricked.

Speaker 5 But I do believe that is what you super duper owners of soccer teams can do in this entire thing.

Speaker 26 We're pulling for you.

Speaker 18 And you only got to beat it one time, remember, throughout the season.

Speaker 39 And then you're on to the other side.

Speaker 121 Go ahead, D-Bud.

Speaker 139 But back to the NFL. Big news yesterday with all the trades.

Speaker 139 You know, on the other side of it, Cowboys, Jets, Colts, Seahawks, who actually came out to be my winner, in my opinion, with the trade deadline. Who's your winner as we sit here about 24 hours later?

Speaker 227 I'm with the URL. I mean, the Seahawks are a wagon, dude.
Like,

Speaker 227 I think the West Coast kind of loses. I think there's true football fans and deep football fans obviously know it, but they're putting something together out there.

Speaker 227 And then you go ahead and you add Shaheed to it. It's that's Sam Darnold's playing unbelievable football.

Speaker 227 That whole West Coast right now with the Rams and everybody, like there is some very good ball going on out there. I mean, the Colts make a massive swing, but also pay a massive price for it.

Speaker 227 So you come in and we were talking about it during the game. Like, were they going to look at a Trey Hendrickson edge rusher type? Are they going to look on the back end?

Speaker 227 You get sauce out there and you get mooney back all of a sudden like where are you throwing the ball on that defense that's what um so it's the the colts clearly also putting danny dimes in a very nice spot when it comes to negotiations in the offseason if he decides to take that stance because you're basically all in at the moment and saying that this is going to be your guy yeah and we have to figure out where that money's coming from because because i think jonathan taylor if we know anything about uh how his business goes he's going to be want to be paid as well so we got to pay Denny Dimes.

Speaker 45 We've got to pay Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 77 We've paid a lot of people on this team, and they're going all in.

Speaker 132 And they showcased it even more yesterday.

Speaker 69 And we're all incredibly pumped about it.

Speaker 80 Let's talk about the trade deadline a little bit for you.

Speaker 70 Go ahead, Con Man.

Speaker 204 Yeah, Jage, something just to consider with Brady as well. You ever want to win a divorce, bring back your kid's dog growing up.

Speaker 161 That might help.

Speaker 9 When you're looking at the trade deadline, it's not a bad play.

Speaker 98 Exactly.

Speaker 161 Oh, you want to go to your mom's house?

Speaker 204 Well, guess who's here?

Speaker 162 The dog that you grew up with that was dead.

Speaker 65 Cut off.

Speaker 98 It's bad.

Speaker 204 But JJ, with the trade deadline, have you ever kind of gone through that process where your agent was letting you know, like, hey, there's a chance you might get dealt here today?

Speaker 204 Or were you always just kind of, hey, that doesn't even matter. I don't even think about that up until the day unless your agent reaches out to you?

Speaker 227 The only time it ever happened was my last year in Houston where it was at least like. somewhat where I was like, ah, should I be listening here? Should I be paying attention?

Speaker 227 Because we were obviously going through some stuff there and there was some organizational stuff. There was, there was just a whole lot going on.
And I didn't even know at that point.

Speaker 227 So

Speaker 227 it's really interesting because

Speaker 227 your agent and everybody can tell you like, no, don't worry. You're not going anywhere.
Nothing's going on. But you still see all the stuff on the internet.

Speaker 227 And you also realize that 99% of it is all bullshit.

Speaker 227 But

Speaker 227 I wouldn't, I won't lie and say you don't think about it. And you start to look and you're like, all right, so if this, if they did do that,

Speaker 227 how is this going to work?

Speaker 227 where am i going to go like it's it's a really interesting thing between that and then free agency and it's i hadn't been through that at any point in my career and it's a it it it's wild to put yourself in situations and know like i could be living in a completely different place with a completely different life and then he moved to arizona you know and become a mega golfer you see he was out there on go he's got those hockey stick golf clubs became a valuable member of the community over there him and aq used to actually sweep streets at night clean it That's right, pick up

Speaker 22 garbage, and then make sure that.

Speaker 227 Congrats on the, I haven't talked to you since. Congrats on the skeleton coming back.

Speaker 98 Yeah,

Speaker 105 big day.

Speaker 140 That was a big day. It was a big day in the Chipley household.

Speaker 121 Thanks for calling attention to that, Jage.

Speaker 22 I think you mentioning it might have been the thing that made those frat boys say, oh, JJ Wall wants us.

Speaker 45 Now, that only happened because the Houston Texans said, Jage, get the hell out of our building, please.

Speaker 26 And that was whenever nuke was happening.

Speaker 142 That's a tough realization for some people.

Speaker 5 We talked about Trent Richardson whenever he came came out and said, whenever he was traded away from Cleveland to Indianapolis, it was the moment where he was like, oh, this isn't, this is business.

Speaker 106 He thought it was kind of like a shattering moment to hear that a team doesn't want you anymore.

Speaker 5 I think players experience that at the end of their careers as well.

Speaker 102 Like sometimes guys who've been the greatest for a long time are finally told by a team for the first time, like, hey, we don't want you.

Speaker 54 And there's like a jaded feel.

Speaker 46 You know, it doesn't feel like any of the guys nowadays feel like that.

Speaker 196 Like Sauce came out and was like, hey, it's just business.

Speaker 45 You got to do what you got to do.

Speaker 14 I wonder if that's because the NIO era where these guys have been around money for so long, it's like, hey, business is everything almost.

Speaker 120 You know what I mean, Jage?

Speaker 227 Yeah, I think the business side of things has certainly become much more understood by everybody involved. I also think we've talked about it before, like the

Speaker 227 old school mentality of like, this is my team. This is like, I live and die and bleed for this team.

Speaker 227 It's a lot different with even fans, like with fancy football and with the ability to watch all the games. You see people from a certain city who in the past, it's, I only support this team.

Speaker 227 I don't support anybody else. Now we're in an era where you're supporting all different people.

Speaker 227 Sometimes it's just players and you're because they're on your fantasy team or just because you like them or maybe they got traded away. So it's the whole jersey swap thing.

Speaker 227 It's a little bit of everything. Like it's, it's just not quite as like tribal as it used to be.
Aaron.

Speaker 116 Aaron Rodgers jersey, hackamolle.

Speaker 173 Yeah, big time. Hakamolly.

Speaker 99 Everybody's going up.

Speaker 214 Who got it?

Speaker 227 Did somebody get it?

Speaker 109 I'm not sure.

Speaker 47 I am not sure.

Speaker 183 Somebody did, though.

Speaker 17 And the thing that I like is obviously the Colts' number one team in the NFL still, and they're humble enough to understand what a legend's out there.

Speaker 227 Did I see, is Sauce getting number one from Downs?

Speaker 129 Don't is going Dons to business alongside his brother.

Speaker 112 His podcast, actually, Don's to Business Podcast.

Speaker 32 And he and Caleb will both be wearing the number two.

Speaker 111 You know, Caleb currently at Ohio State, maybe the best football player in college football as a whole.

Speaker 137 And Josh, superstar for us.

Speaker 17 Obviously, Danny Dimes and he have done some magical things together.

Speaker 45 He moves to number two because they're Don's to business.

Speaker 139 And then Sauce.

Speaker 229 I didn't even know you could do that in the middle of the season.

Speaker 10 Me neither, especially with like the jersey thing, you know, because anytime guys want to change numbers, they're always like, well, you got to pay back the amount of money that jerseys have already been made.

Speaker 95 That's always something that I'm going to do.

Speaker 139 You'd assume Sauce probably footed that bill for him.

Speaker 128 Yeah, I'd assume after getting paid, like, hey, this is kind of how this whole thing goes.

Speaker 10 Don's to business, though, being their podcast that has just launched and them both wearing a number two and him coming out here saying too slippery, too sweet, you know, too everything.

Speaker 175 It's too neat.

Speaker 145 Like, that is a, I think that is a very good move.

Speaker 38 I like what they're doing.

Speaker 133 And also, the culture in the locker room is great.

Speaker 13 You see that immediately from before him even stepping forward in there.

Speaker 77 Yeah, you're cool, dude. Let's keep it moving.

Speaker 39 Let's roll. It's no worries.

Speaker 14 And everybody coming in, Lou Anarumo, did you see his quote, Jage?

Speaker 227 No, I did not.

Speaker 75 Well, we reached out to a building and he said,

Speaker 227 I don't have the stuff. I can't watch the ESPN shows.

Speaker 227 I don't have it. I have something.

Speaker 70 I don't know what I have.

Speaker 98 Tell them where to go.

Speaker 227 I didn't go to the website that you told me to go to.

Speaker 98 I never said go to the website, James.

Speaker 105 Don't you put that on me, James.

Speaker 211 I didn't.

Speaker 227 You told me that I had to go to some website that I saw you do a PSA and I didn't go to it. Okay.

Speaker 117 Once again, not the boys' fault that are doing it.

Speaker 102 That should have never been an idea.

Speaker 98 Hey,

Speaker 84 why don't you? Hey.

Speaker 227 The suit said it was your idea. I heard that it was you who said, guys, we should crowdsource this amongst all of our talent.

Speaker 227 This is how we should do it. I know the social media.

Speaker 178 Hey, everybody's really mad at us. Can you go tell them?

Speaker 105 I mean, Outer Guy.

Speaker 84 We were bummed out.

Speaker 204 We were so bummed when Otter Guy was forced to do it.

Speaker 14 But when Otter Guy said it, I did it.

Speaker 65 I wasn't doing it.

Speaker 162 Go through this now.

Speaker 160 That's basically what he said. And when he said that, I was almost like, oh, shit.
Okay.

Speaker 171 Other guy's talking. I got to go do it.

Speaker 162 That one got traction.

Speaker 105 That one had like two million views on it.

Speaker 36 We'll be talking to Otter Guy here in about 30 minutes or so.

Speaker 18 And once again, it's not like, I don't, we don't like whoever's idea that was was just coming from a place of just not understanding the reality of everything.

Speaker 103 It's like that, what

Speaker 227 thought we were going to just rally.

Speaker 211 We were all going to be like, yeah, let me do it. Where's the petition? Let me tie it up.
I want to help corporate America.

Speaker 105 That's insane.

Speaker 116 Exactly.

Speaker 155 Yes. And also, hey, they like you, right?

Speaker 58 Well, let's change that. Go ahead and

Speaker 124 what are we even doing?

Speaker 18 Hey, it's all right.

Speaker 36 Just know that all these people that people think are like these,

Speaker 42 maybe

Speaker 135 a lot of things have been saying about corporate shows and stuff like that.

Speaker 42 These people all love sport, want sports.

Speaker 95 You know what I mean?

Speaker 94 So it's like, that's why I get so like, man, why are we doing this?

Speaker 47 Like, Herbie's already got enough on his plate, right?

Speaker 45 Herbie's already got enough people for whatever reason because he's been calling games for 30 years and has the voice that he has in this entire thing.

Speaker 127 Yeah, let's go. Just tell him also, tell them, tell them the good thing.

Speaker 65 It's like, God, you do that.

Speaker 227 Your X account is benefiting fantastically, though.

Speaker 86 Well, I think

Speaker 134 many would say there was a benefit for maybe all parties involved there.

Speaker 111 But on that note, yeah, it was an honor to be able to stream that.

Speaker 213 And shout out to X to be like, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 91 We were thankful for that.

Speaker 69 And who knows what the future looks like there, you know, in that entire thing.

Speaker 117 Are we on X right now?

Speaker 105 Streamer?

Speaker 80 I don't believe we are streaming live on X.

Speaker 178 Maybe. Yeah, we are.

Speaker 102 Yeah, we are streaming live on X.

Speaker 208 Yes, we have.

Speaker 65 That'd be cool.

Speaker 190 No idea.

Speaker 227 I don't even know if I can watch this show in my own house right now.

Speaker 214 No, I have no idea.

Speaker 6 The thing about X is...

Speaker 105 Scientific, man.

Speaker 143 Phone, laptop, they don't have the TV app yet.

Speaker 25 Nope.

Speaker 64 You know, and that's kind of the, like YouTube has TV app everywhere.

Speaker 91 So everybody can pull YouTube up and put it up there.

Speaker 17 But if X wants to go in the content world, which allegedly they do, right?

Speaker 175 They really want to go, it's like, I think there's some things they can build up to be able to become a real thing.

Speaker 104 They're going to have to get there though.

Speaker 36 But other than that, it was like them being so nimble and welcoming on Saturday in like a 25, 30 minute period.

Speaker 146 They all came together in like 25, 30 minutes.

Speaker 142 Cause I think the YouTube TV, I thought the YouTube TV deal was going to get done before Saturday.

Speaker 117 I think we all kind of thought it was going to get done.

Speaker 227 Yep, I did think that.

Speaker 60 It's like, hey, college football right now.

Speaker 175 We're in the middle of college football right now. Ratings up and to the right.

Speaker 64 Like this is certainly for all parties here.

Speaker 36 This is really good news.

Speaker 127 And then Monday night football comes, we still don't have it, but on Saturday morning, whenever it's like, no, it's not happening, it's like, there has to be something here, you know?

Speaker 142 And then kind of make some plays.

Speaker 45 It reached a lot of people kind of.

Speaker 16 trying to track how do you compare that to it's like you don't these are two different worlds you can't compare it to a tv number or a youtube tv number what an x number is it's a different place but it was an attempt to be like hey we do we this is we understand what's going on and we would like to put another so i think that's a good thing that espn did and everybody's just kind of attacking them it's like it's a negotiation happening you know there's a lot of yeah there's a lot up here but what we're saying is there's ball yeah

Speaker 227 yeah there's we need to see ball football we we need it and i'm not entering my information on another freaking website and i'm not getting a confirmation code sent to my email clicking it and coming back and putting it in and then i'm not doing it i'm not doing it i did it once.

Speaker 227 I have some sort of subscription. I have no clue what it is because I can only watch freaking half the content, apparently, or it's replayed content.
It's bullshit.

Speaker 219 Figure it out. This is a miracle.

Speaker 2 This is JJ Watt talking here.

Speaker 131 This ain't some rock for brains defensive tackle from the NFL.

Speaker 43 No. No.

Speaker 29 This is a guy that is your average American, JJ Watt, saying, I already signed up to watch this.

Speaker 32 Why do I got to sign up again?

Speaker 95 And then with the ability for your phone to be able to take a picture scan, QR code, then I i gotta type in another password another code it's like we're all kind of done that thing when that thing pops up it

Speaker 2 get hot this guy's breaking tvs hates it listen

Speaker 227 and then you do it and you scan it and you're like all right i'm in and then they're like no you don't have that one so too bad

Speaker 227 i mean i'm trying to watch my guys like i played for the cardinals i wanted to watch the game on monday night

Speaker 140 on that note on that note cardinals have the biggest win they've had in a long time nobody saw it uh aq uh do you have a question for jade i do let's talk about walter nolan and kalaeus campbell the youngest defensive lineman and the oldest defensive lineman kalaeus gets two sacks walter nolan makes his debut a sack two tfls played great what did you see from him

Speaker 227 i love it man i mean it's it the cardinals we talked about this earlier in the year like they lost those crazy crazy close games in quick succession and their season would be looking completely different and it's i mean as a guy who still has a bunch of friends on the team and in the building like i'm sitting there like, damn, it would be so much fun to watch these guys have a success.

Speaker 227 And then Calais, obviously, dominating at the age of whatever the hell he is. He's just still so damn good.

Speaker 227 Obviously, interesting moves there with the quarterback position and everything that's going on. And then Marvin's dad comes out and rips the offense.
And then Marvin has a great game.

Speaker 227 And it's like, wow,

Speaker 227 maybe we should rip the offense earlier if that's what it's going to look like at this point.

Speaker 227 But I don't know. It's tough.
I know what it's like down there in Arizona.

Speaker 227 I want them to be good so badly, and it would have been awesome if those one-score games had gone the other way and we were sitting there looking at a different story.

Speaker 206 Jacobi, the quarterback, obviously, incredible leader and ability to navigate through the offense.

Speaker 174 And they have a lot of faith in him as well, as they should.

Speaker 22 Huge Monday Night Football win.

Speaker 32 Marvin Harrison Jr.

Speaker 22 said he was pumped up to be a focal point of the offense.

Speaker 30 And we assume that'll be the same going forward.

Speaker 227 Can you tell me what Walter Nolan did in the game? I'm not joking when I tell you. I did not see the game.

Speaker 214 I'll just read all that up.

Speaker 140 Yeah, so he had one sack, a batted pass, two tackles for loss, and played against two really good guards. He showed up.
I mean, he looks like he's going to be a presence.

Speaker 227 Nice.

Speaker 227 Look forward to seeing him on regular television next week.

Speaker 221 Well, it'll be quick enough.

Speaker 189 If you go to the website.

Speaker 140 Speaking of that same subscription, I got that same subscription because I used to be able to watch things. Now you can't watch anything.
It's just replays.

Speaker 98 You're upgrading. I don't know.

Speaker 59 They got you for. They don't even let you.

Speaker 211 It's not money.

Speaker 211 I got the money. I just don't want to sign up.

Speaker 227 I don't want to enter my information again.

Speaker 35 So do you have to do it? Sometimes you have to do it on the device in which you

Speaker 37 registered.

Speaker 165 Have you ever seen that one? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 112 Where you have to do this on the device in which you register?

Speaker 147 I'm like, I don't know what fucking device that is.

Speaker 194 When was it?

Speaker 227 The amount of people told me to put bunny ears on.

Speaker 227 Yeah. No offense.
I don't know how to do that. I don't know how to get it to the right television in the house.
Like, I'll be honest with you.

Speaker 227 I got a couple of them in the house and I don't know how to get from my roof to the TV in my living room.

Speaker 219 It's a little waste.

Speaker 98 But on that, it's a little waste.

Speaker 49 I don't know if the bunny ears even work with modern television.

Speaker 58 Like, if you have a smart TV, I'm not 100%.

Speaker 227 People were screaming at me in the comments.

Speaker 229 Get some bunny ears. Get some bunny ears.

Speaker 105 What the?

Speaker 211 What do you want me to do with bunny ears?

Speaker 105 It doesn't work for ESPN.

Speaker 160 It would work for, yeah, basic cable, like ABC, NBC, CBS. But yeah, if you ain't getting ESPN with bunny ears.

Speaker 173 You know what?

Speaker 22 Take a key, put it on a stick

Speaker 227 Hold the smart TV go to the highest hill and just get a lightning rod that that should be able to run ESPN you got to put a disclaimer on that dude you got you got to put some kind of oh sorry that won't work maybe JJ I don't know if that'll work

Speaker 211 out there at the top of a hill and just get smoked by a lightning rod don't do it kids don't do it James Lillians

Speaker 204 helped me out on how to get it on ESPN because you explained it to me like when you upgraded your browsers to premium wasn't it the same it's the same idea right Well, see, that changed because they've changed the state laws everywhere.

Speaker 105 So that's very different.

Speaker 140 Put your ID in, AQ, put it in.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 129 AJ has the last question for you, Jade.

Speaker 189 Jade, obviously off on that note, the Cowboys brought in Logan Wilson and Quentin Williams.

Speaker 189 Especially Quentin Williams. What does he bring to a team when you have a big dude like that that is that dynamic in the middle? He can help a lot.

Speaker 189 I don't think people understand what kind of impact a big dude like that can have on a a defense.

Speaker 227 Yeah, it sounds like they could have used him Monday night from what everybody's saying. I don't know.

Speaker 227 Yeah, I mean, Quinnen Williams is a guy. Like, I love Quinnen Williams' game.
I mean, it's like he can play the run. He can play the pass.

Speaker 227 I mean, you look at the Jets and you're like, all right, so you trade these two stellar young pieces that you have in hopes of drafting more stellar young pieces.

Speaker 227 Like, I just, I'm not 100% sure. Yes, it's a huge haul, and yes, they got a bunch of of great stuff, but Quinnen's great.
Do I know if he's going to fix that Dallas defense?

Speaker 227 No, I don't know that, but he's certainly going to make it significantly better.

Speaker 227 The guy is a damn good football player, and when you have somebody that can plug up the run like that in the middle and rush the passer, it makes your entire defense better. So

Speaker 227 good for them. Now, if you compare, I know there's been that side-by-side done with the Micah Parsons trade and everything that's been done with the picks and everything with it.

Speaker 227 I mean, Micah Parsons is still Micah Parsons.

Speaker 30 Yes, he certainly is.

Speaker 14 And money time. Micah is going to show up in a big way for the Green Bay Packers, we think late in the year, which will obviously pay off the entire trade and then some.

Speaker 13 Here's some Hembo stats about maybe Quinn and helping.

Speaker 45 Jerry Jones on trade, Michael Parsons.

Speaker 104 We need to be able to stop to run.

Speaker 64 Okay. He's here, there, there.

Speaker 26 We tied. Most run stop wins as a D tackle this season.

Speaker 17 Quinn Williams, 61 of them.

Speaker 92 There you go, Jake.

Speaker 145 That's all you need to see.

Speaker 43 Okay.

Speaker 158 Henbo's dropping a stat.

Speaker 220 Most run stops by D-tackle, Quinn Williams.

Speaker 55 Period.

Speaker 193 That's all you need to to know.

Speaker 189 Most run stop wins, not most run.

Speaker 189 Those aren't tackles. What exactly are those?

Speaker 87 Well, he's eating up.

Speaker 116 You know,

Speaker 100 you know, ball.

Speaker 117 Benny, you're gap.

Speaker 227 Most run stop wins. I mean, wouldn't it have to be a win for you to stop the run?

Speaker 227 How do you have a run stop loss?

Speaker 87 Well, here's the explanation, please.

Speaker 60 A defender can earn a win by doing any of the following.

Speaker 142 Beating his blocker so he's in better position to stop the run.

Speaker 41 Disrupting the player.

Speaker 227 Oh, dude, dude, dude.

Speaker 105 Yeah.

Speaker 199 Swimming out of the eggs.

Speaker 189 What the hell is this?

Speaker 65 Can you let him drink it, please?

Speaker 98 No.

Speaker 177 There's a semicolon.

Speaker 226 There's a semicolon.

Speaker 142 Disrupting the pocket or running lane by pushing his blocker backward.

Speaker 89 Okay.

Speaker 109 Containing the runner such that he must adjust his running lane.

Speaker 65 Okay. Or

Speaker 187 recording a tackle within three yards of the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 26 That's a run-stop win.

Speaker 52 And guess who has the most of them?

Speaker 182 Dallas Cowboys, Quinn Williams.

Speaker 117 Wow.

Speaker 98 James, Peabody.

Speaker 199 These people.

Speaker 227 They just make up new things.

Speaker 227 I've seen,

Speaker 227 you know.

Speaker 98 You should see the EPA on these run stop wins.

Speaker 214 In the grades on the trade.

Speaker 29 Seth Walter says that.

Speaker 216 Do we know who that guy is?

Speaker 152 Is that a real guy?

Speaker 227 He's a graph man. That's the only thing we know.
The guy just makes graphs.

Speaker 65 No. A lot of them.

Speaker 164 Is that what he does?

Speaker 18 Because he gave the Colts a D and the Jets an A.

Speaker 162 Well, if it's not coming from Bill Barnwell, then you don't need to worry about what it says.

Speaker 205 Thank you, Ty.

Speaker 8 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 187 Gump's a big Bill Barnwell guy.

Speaker 65 That's nice ball.

Speaker 24 I did not expect Gump from the back saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, Bill Barnwell will tell us the truth in this entire thing.

Speaker 47 Jage, how's Burnley?

Speaker 14 How's Espanol?

Speaker 211 We're doing good.

Speaker 227 Espanol suffered a loss midweek.

Speaker 98 Oh, no. We're doing good.

Speaker 227 We're in sixth right now.

Speaker 227 Burnley's got West Ham coming up this weekend.

Speaker 98 And Espanol, we got Villa Real.

Speaker 227 Villa Real, Villa Real.

Speaker 205 Villa Real, good squad.

Speaker 227 So it'll be good. But Burnley-West Ham will be a great one.
And Espanol is another shot. Life is good.

Speaker 220 Yeah, it is good.

Speaker 214 Wisconsin is getting out of the relegation.

Speaker 227 So

Speaker 227 we don't need to go there.

Speaker 227 Burnley's out of the relegation zone. Espanol's a sixth.

Speaker 217 That's good.

Speaker 179 Burnley's out of relegation.

Speaker 119 We're going to stay up with the big boy. Okay, Burnley.

Speaker 87 Let's go.

Speaker 105 Let's go schedule to start the season.

Speaker 205 You guys have been playing well.

Speaker 98 Gumpy, what are your thoughts on Espanol maybe going on a run after taking on Villa Real this weekend?

Speaker 205 They should. Villarreal is playing midweek, so you could get them a little bit tired, rotating some changes.
Espanol bounces back this weekend.

Speaker 205 Got to beat West Ham if you're Burnley, West Ham struggling.

Speaker 103 Is Burnley still parking it or not parking it?

Speaker 58 I forget what their problem was.

Speaker 114 They would have the lead, and then they wouldn't park it, and then the other team would just blow right through them.

Speaker 205 I tell you what, I'm not shitting you. This Burnley team's playing some good footy.

Speaker 65 Really?

Speaker 65 They are

Speaker 205 much better than when they were up in the prem the last time around.

Speaker 37 Okay, how about Espanol?

Speaker 15 What do we think of Español?

Speaker 64 Obviously, they were like third in all of the Spanish supervisors.

Speaker 105 La Liga.

Speaker 230 Yeah, there it is. La Liga.

Speaker 34 Are they still up there? What style of play do they have?

Speaker 103 And are they exciting?

Speaker 205 They're very impressive to watch. They're top six.
Hopefully, maybe Champions League or Europa League for JJ's boys.

Speaker 98 Champions League? Shit.

Speaker 227 We got the boys rolling over there in Spain, man. We got Pere Emila.

Speaker 227 We're living good. We're living good in Barcelona right now.

Speaker 32 Have you, you've never been a part of Champions League, obviously?

Speaker 62 That has to be massive for ownership if you get in the Champions League, I would assume.

Speaker 227 Yeah, I mean, obviously,

Speaker 227 that is the ultimate goal to be playing European football and everything that comes with it So

Speaker 227 he just saw dollar signs look at that first You got to be real careful because that's when people get in trouble You make it and then you're like oh my gosh You got all this cash throw it back in and then like it's you got to be the business side of this has been really really fun and a lot

Speaker 227 No, you don't put it you do it smart so that you can sustain yourself you've seen we've seen teams go and play in champions league ball and get relegated like you got to be really smart a lot more games during the week.

Speaker 205 Your team can get thinned out, get banged up. Like, you got to build depth in your squad to play in those competitions.

Speaker 16 Yeah, you got to make sure you're not just pocketing and looking at the bottom line, Jage.

Speaker 227 Okay. Yeah, trust me.

Speaker 227 You know, there ain't no pocketing anything going on over here. It's expensive as shit to run these teams.

Speaker 164 You're the best.

Speaker 129 You're the absolute greatest.

Speaker 81 Hope you have success in that as you have in everything else in your life.

Speaker 120 You're the man, ladies and gentlemen. And you're this weekend of Houston.

Speaker 200 You're in Houston, Houston.

Speaker 227 Yeah, we got Houston versus Jaguars who are hot on the Colts tail, five and three.

Speaker 139 Colts. Seven and two.

Speaker 227 Seven and two. But if Berlin slips, if Jags, I mean, who knows? Who knows what's happening in this AFC style? They got real interesting after that Pittsburgh game.

Speaker 62 Oh, and Cam Little's hitting 68-yard field goals.

Speaker 214 How about that?

Speaker 195 They're trading for wide receivers that everybody wants.

Speaker 32 I mean, Jacksonville is a whole different team than they were, and Houston appeared as if they were going to be on a different trajectory there for a couple of weeks.

Speaker 47 CJ Stroud gets hurt, kind of changed that conversation, I guess, huh?

Speaker 105 That's kind of everybody's just out on the Texans all of a sudden.

Speaker 227 I mean, it's tough, man. The Texans defense right now is literally playing like a historic defense in the NFL.

Speaker 227 Number one in total yards, number one total points, like they're doing everything possible.

Speaker 227 It's just they're not, they've had 10 attempts to score from inside the two-yard line this year, and they've scored on zero of them.

Speaker 227 10 times inside the two-yard line, scored zero.

Speaker 224 That's heartbreaking.

Speaker 227 You have to be able to put the ball in the end zone, man. That's hardbreaking.
That's hard. Yeah, but that's what's going on there.

Speaker 227 The defense is playing phenomenal, so I'm really looking forward to seeing that.

Speaker 227 And if you wouldn't mind letting the Jaguars fans know, because they saw the announcer pairing come out, and they were not happy that I was calling the Texans game, and they think it's going to be a one-sided fest.

Speaker 227 So if you wouldn't mind calming them down, because they're in my mentions already.

Speaker 6 I said here earlier, listening to you call the massive TJ Watts success and Steelers game against the Colts.

Speaker 49 I didn't think you were.

Speaker 12 There was one time you said we very ecstatically, and I was like, okay, I'm going to red zone.

Speaker 227 scott hanson's getting my ears uh going forward but that was at the very end that was at the very end because then you said well i said we about us when you kicked the onside against us i said we and ian had to remind me that i have to tell people that i played for the texans he was like when you say we you mean i said the texans oh yeah because you went to arizona we talked about that but on that note i think you do a very good job at calling it you also you could moxie in there brother it is entertaining listening to you uh kind of go about doing your thing and the energy alongside mr eagle there is fantastic fantastic as well.

Speaker 196 I think you're crushing it.

Speaker 17 We're proud of you.

Speaker 227 I appreciate it. I appreciate you guys very much.
I learned a lot from y'all. So I try and take some of your guys' fun and energy and banter with me as well.

Speaker 46 Yeah, I see Ash J just still going.

Speaker 164 It's a good one.

Speaker 132 You should continue to do that, especially because we can learn more about one of the greatest of all time.

Speaker 79 And all I need you to do is go to keepmynetworks.com and maybe you can continue to watch more of the bandwidth.

Speaker 229 Post it from the sauna next time.

Speaker 227 Do it from the soft now.

Speaker 166 194 in there, bro.

Speaker 227 Yeah, love it.

Speaker 211 Love it.

Speaker 105 That's really hot.

Speaker 227 I got the red light and the sauna and cold every day. I love it.
That sauna is no joke.

Speaker 90 I don't red light. I got the

Speaker 43 rocks.

Speaker 105 The rocks where I'm tossing.

Speaker 227 No, no, I don't do the red light. I don't do infrared.
I do real sauna with you. I'm with you.
I don't, I don't, I'm not an infrared guy.

Speaker 105 They said my inside's getting better.

Speaker 19 Oh, you do red light after the sauna.

Speaker 189 AQ face thing, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 30 You still doing that? Looks like it.

Speaker 84 Yeah.

Speaker 149 I'm doing it.

Speaker 140 I got the tower now. I got the tower.

Speaker 8 Wow.

Speaker 65 I'm just walking in there naked.

Speaker 140 Full body, standing there naked, 10 minutes each side. Oh.

Speaker 98 Hold on. So

Speaker 33 what's happening?

Speaker 152 Visual.

Speaker 189 You put your arms out like that, like you're Jesus?

Speaker 98 Like a spray tan?

Speaker 174 You stand there for 10 minutes?

Speaker 98 Oh, yeah. And then you turn?

Speaker 189 Your shoulder's going to be so tired.

Speaker 227 And it's going to be. You don't stand.
Why do you stand there with your arms out?

Speaker 105 You spread your feet.

Speaker 199 Make sure they get that.

Speaker 106 You never know. You never know what you're going to need.
Honestly.

Speaker 229 Once you're saving your network,

Speaker 105 make sure you get that on your network.

Speaker 98 Oh,

Speaker 217 sign the petition.

Speaker 117 We're talking about health and wellness here.

Speaker 185 You take that.

Speaker 62 Well, you're you're the man, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 153 JJ Watt.

Speaker 65 Jay.

Speaker 163 That was an aggressive move by you, I will say, on television.

Speaker 57 It was good, though.

Speaker 98 Well,

Speaker 178 it's authentic.

Speaker 53 Yeah, you're a method actor, man.

Speaker 126 He just went right back into that infrared full body scanner and said, What do I normally do? I do this, and then I do this, and then I normally do this for a little bit.

Speaker 46 Kind of get a little insights, kind of get it going.

Speaker 186 All right.

Speaker 208 Frankie Louvu's suspension was lifted and now he's just getting a $100,000 fine.

Speaker 24 My source

Speaker 120 from the league aren't happy.

Speaker 43 Really?

Speaker 118 Okay, that the suspension has been lifted.

Speaker 32 They think it is a very dangerous play.

Speaker 26 They are taking it very seriously.

Speaker 51 The NFL heard what BA said yesterday about how it's not good.

Speaker 32 It's even more dangerous than the horse collar.

Speaker 17 And if we listen to what Jim Harbaugh said about it, whenever the rule was kind of being initiated, and I think now we all kind of see what they are referring to whenever this tackle happens.

Speaker 30 So I think the league is very much like, hey, we need to get this style of tackle out of the game.

Speaker 53 And obviously, it was put up for review.

Speaker 115 Former player

Speaker 10 Derek Brooks overturned the suspension and gave a $100,000 fine, which is a lot of money.

Speaker 144 Obviously, that is still a lot of money in the fine.

Speaker 90 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 17 But yeah, the NFL, I guess, is not necessarily thrilled that that was lifted from a one-game suspension because they would like this completely out of the game. So they think precedent has to be set.

Speaker 208 I assume Derek Brooks said $100,000 is a lot of money.

Speaker 26 Frankie Louva will change the way he tackles.

Speaker 102 So it's an interesting dynamic here on what they're trying to make the game and what they're trying to not make the game.

Speaker 117 Well, then they have to call.

Speaker 204 Like, if you're not going to throw the flag, none of these are flags. Like he doesn't get called one time for it.
And I mean, believe me, I don't want to see more flags.

Speaker 231 I don't want the refs more involved in it.

Speaker 204 But like, how are you going to find a guy? Or it's not fine, but how are you going to suspend the guy when none of it gets called in-game?

Speaker 204 Like, doesn't that kind of have to change the in-game refereeing then?

Speaker 15 AJ Hawk, your thoughts on it all?

Speaker 123 Obviously, we've been, that's so nasty right there.

Speaker 142 We've all been a part.

Speaker 40 We have, as a show, been a part of this becoming a rule.

Speaker 138 This would have been the first ever suspension for it.

Speaker 11 Your thoughts?

Speaker 189 Yeah, I think sometimes it's not necessary to do this. I obviously got to change the way you tackle it, looks so dangerous.

Speaker 189 But some of them, especially like this one, I don't think, yeah, I could have seen this one called that one looks so nasty because you could have gone through him and tried to go through the quarterback instead of pulling him back on top of you.

Speaker 189 Yeah, I don't, I don't think he has any ill like intent, but it does. These ones, I think, sometimes you can definitely avoid these.

Speaker 30 Yeah, and I think it's his style of tackling, which we went back to like James Harrison.

Speaker 32 Like James Harrison, whenever they were changing what the rules were, he got like $750,000 in fines.

Speaker 22 Back whenever $750,000 was

Speaker 39 and still is a massive number.

Speaker 155 But I'm saying like back in the day when that was happening, it was huge, but they were transforming how people had to tackle.

Speaker 6 And James Harrison, since he's a little kid playing youth football, only tackled one way.

Speaker 85 And then he gets to the league and they're like, we're not doing that anymore.

Speaker 138 And he's like, well, what am I supposed to do?

Speaker 15 And now he is teaching his son, hey.

Speaker 90 You're going to do what that did because this is football.

Speaker 49 Let's make sure we remember that.

Speaker 21 But you can do it differently.

Speaker 30 And what the NFL saw was, although at the beginning it was a huge wave of, oh no, we're not going to be able to do it, an entire generation of football players change the way they tackle, change the way they do everything.

Speaker 17 And it's like, this is almost what they're trying to do with the hip-drop tackle, even though there's not as many people that use the hip-drop tackle style, maybe like Frankie Louvu.

Speaker 169 Yeah, and it's tough.

Speaker 139 And I understand why the league will be upset because this is a very dangerous play.

Speaker 139 But I do love the move of just finding him 100K and then letting him play because every game is not like the NBA or the ML or MLB. Every game matters so much.

Speaker 139 So I do like the decision by Derek Brooks, but Louvo definitely has to change the way he's tackling. And

Speaker 139 100 grand,

Speaker 168 that'll get you learned real quick.

Speaker 106 Yeah, 100 grand is a lot of money. Yeah.

Speaker 70 I mean, to anybody. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 145 Anybody at this point.

Speaker 63 100 grand is still a lot of money.

Speaker 17 But the NFL is very much like, this can't be.

Speaker 182 Because those are nasty injuries, too.

Speaker 178 They look nasty.

Speaker 189 Those feel worse than a horse collar for sure to me.

Speaker 7 Yeah, and B.A.

Speaker 108 mentioned that.

Speaker 47 He's like, it's like a horse collar, but it's even worse because you got a full body on the bottom of it.

Speaker 81 And those are also the injuries that get picked up by people that aren't football fans.

Speaker 105 Those can be career-altering.

Speaker 124 Yeah, it's just all not good for the NFL and for the football.

Speaker 32 So they're trying to change that.

Speaker 182 Derek Brooks, like 100,000 seems fair.

Speaker 32 They didn't even throw a flag on it.

Speaker 196 But if he doesn't stop, we'll obviously take the next steps.

Speaker 47 We're trying to set a little precedent here.

Speaker 27 We're here on ESPN currently.

Speaker 124 We'll be off in about 11 seconds or so.

Speaker 155 You can join us digitally.

Speaker 92 We're live on YouTube, ESPN Plus, Disney Plus, and TikTok Live.

Speaker 202 This show is dumb.

Speaker 225 The fact that you watch is even more crazy.

Speaker 124 Have a good one.

Speaker 85 Goodbye.

Speaker 107 That might be the best send-off I've ever.

Speaker 8 Hell yeah.

Speaker 32 Yeah, it might be, might be the best one ever.

Speaker 159 But I do appreciate the fact that I, you know, reach out to the NFL and like, hey, heard you guys' little punishment got lifted.

Speaker 186 And they're like, yeah, not happy.

Speaker 139 This is mad. Yeah, like legit.

Speaker 72 Like they, because they don't want it in the game.

Speaker 15 You know, like that is infrared.

Speaker 189 The only way you can work about for Lulu, though, is in a game, because guess what? He's not tackling like that in practice, especially during the season.

Speaker 232 You're not taking people to the ground like that.

Speaker 177 That's not happening.

Speaker 45 But with how natural he is in doing it, it's clear like this is how this guy made it to the NFL problem.

Speaker 137 Like this is his style of football.

Speaker 45 And it's like, buddy, you're just Clay Matthews right now.

Speaker 97 You're James Harrison right now.

Speaker 139 You saw it with

Speaker 139 Kareem Jackson. So Kareem Jackson

Speaker 139 James has been suspended, but Kareem Jackson,

Speaker 139 for lack of a better term, he was like a headhunter. He was like an old school throwback.
Like you come across the middle, you throw a high ball like you're going to pay for it.

Speaker 139 And he played that way until it was over. He was suspended, what, like three games, I think?

Speaker 139 Yeah, like, which was which is crazy NFL talk when when you're talking about something that's happening between the lines.

Speaker 139 So, I understand why the NFL wanted out for player safety, but I do love that this shows that there is a real process, that it's not just the NFL just dropping a hammer and saying, hey, this is how it's going to be.

Speaker 139 Forget what anybody else says. So, I do love that part of it.

Speaker 68 Yeah, the NFL not liking it.

Speaker 68 Exactly.

Speaker 65 Yeah, I think that's

Speaker 178 for sure.

Speaker 74 For sure.

Speaker 19 We should be taking a victory lap of the players.

Speaker 200 Absolutely.

Speaker 107 It's terrible that it's happening, but the players should be like, Yeah, okay.

Speaker 189 We have some power. Like, we have some, like, we have some recourse.
If they want to punish us, we have a little bit of a way to fight.

Speaker 139 Way to point that out, actually.

Speaker 73 Yeah, I didn't even think about that.

Speaker 212 That's a great call.

Speaker 51 Like, this is the first time have we ever heard the NFL be like, we don't like it.

Speaker 117 Yeah,

Speaker 117 I don't know.

Speaker 139 Yeah, so you've got to think about it because it's usually you think like, okay, it's judge, jury, executioner, but to have somebody at the table that can say, okay, nah. Checks back.

Speaker 139 But Louvu, like, he's a guy. He brings energy.
Every, you know, whatever your thoughts is on the commander's defense, that's your thoughts. But he's one of their guys that they rally behind for sure.

Speaker 16 Let's talk about some other news around the NFL.

Speaker 80 A little bit better news.

Speaker 181 Drake May was doing a QA at Bryant University, which is in

Speaker 17 Rhode Island, which is obviously in New England.

Speaker 26 Listen to this reaction for Drake May.

Speaker 16 That's fucking sick. Let's go to Connor.

Speaker 89 I mean, Drake's new king of New England, oh, yeah, alongside Tatum, obviously, and all the boys for the Celtics.

Speaker 137 Feels like this is the next generation of sports stars up there.

Speaker 22 And shout out to having the perfect guy.

Speaker 47 Feels like he's humble, he can handle it.

Speaker 17 This isn't something that is going to change the way he operates, and all he's doing is getting better and better.

Speaker 24 I love that you guys are all the way on board from beginning and bottom of the revolution region all the way to the top.

Speaker 109 Is this kind of what you were sensing from the beginning of the Drake May era?

Speaker 117 Yeah, it's incredible.

Speaker 204 I mean, definitely didn't think it happened this quick, but that goes back to Mike Vrabel.

Speaker 204 And, you know, you mentioned Tatum, Joe Missoula, like the leaders of all the four main, you know, franchises, Alex Cora, the Red Sox. I mean, Marco Stern for the Bruins.

Speaker 204 The Bruins were actually outperforming how everyone thought they were going to do. Like the head coaches at all these stops is kind of my whole entire thing.

Speaker 204 is why I think everyone's very confident in the sustained success because, you know, Drake May, hopefully, he plays for 20 years, and hopefully, Mike Vabel is his head coach for all 20 of those years.

Speaker 204 And then there's clips coming out of Vrabel going up to Drake May right before their last drive, where they kind of iced the game

Speaker 204 before, you know, taking the victory formation. And it's Vrabel going up to him saying, Hey, all the shit that happened before this drive doesn't matter.
Like, go get a first down. Let's win the game.

Speaker 204 Let's get out of here. And we're seven and two.

Speaker 162 So, people loving Drake May, incredible.

Speaker 204 Him being only 23 years old, incredible, but more

Speaker 204 so Mike Vrabel doing this on Sunday.

Speaker 204 We're going to need one drop.

Speaker 204 Doesn't matter. We're going to need one drive to win the game.
I don't know if Charlotte's going to be.

Speaker 204 We're going to need one more drive.

Speaker 204 One drop.

Speaker 30 Look at Andy's getting in there. Some good leadership.

Speaker 120 And Diggs said, I don't know how Vrabel got me to buy in, but I'm all the way in.

Speaker 39 But buying in, obviously a big deal.

Speaker 119 Leadership, a big deal.

Speaker 12 But Drake may be the right guy for it all.

Speaker 142 Seems like a perfect fit.

Speaker 166 And you saw it from him whenever you golfed one round with him after Clyde Christensen, who's former Indianapolis Poltz coach, right?

Speaker 116 Right, right.

Speaker 166 He's been around a long time.

Speaker 14 Peyton, Andrew, Tom, you name it.

Speaker 108 He was at North Carolina.

Speaker 45 It's his alma mater.

Speaker 165 I believe he was going back there because family to live closer after a life of coaching, the NFL.

Speaker 39 And he told us when Drake May was coming out, this is the guy.

Speaker 41 He's Peyton, right?

Speaker 78 But he's also very athletic.

Speaker 97 I mean, he led us in rushing, right?

Speaker 49 I mean, you're talking about everything that's right about a quarterback.

Speaker 170 This guy, he's youngest brother, got older brothers, very competitive.

Speaker 195 He's not the only successful guy.

Speaker 55 He's been there. He's been popular.

Speaker 26 He's been big man on campus for like the last three years here at North Carolina.

Speaker 17 There's nothing that's going to rattle him or change him.

Speaker 213 But that's what Clyde Christensen was saying.

Speaker 14 Then you went and golf with him and you came back an hour later, sat down on our set and was like, Drake May's the number one guy.

Speaker 142 It does feel like he's the perfect guy for all of this.

Speaker 139 Yeah, because it's one thing to be the big man on campus.

Speaker 139 And I think it's another thing to be kind of the little brother and kind of look up to kind of who people you see as your heroes, whether it be your dad or your big brothers or your uncles, your sisters, your mom, just a bunch of athletes.

Speaker 139 And you kind of become that little brother and then you get thrust into this, this limelight.

Speaker 139 And like all these quarterbacks, like all the great ones that we either played with or cheered for, they're all very different. They're all of themselves.
They're all unique.

Speaker 139 They're obviously all talented. But him being himself and then that little clip from Vrabel, like it seems like a small thing.

Speaker 139 That's a big thing because a lot of times in these high pressure situations, especially young players, it can be kind of like too much.

Speaker 139 And a lot of times it's the coaches on the sideline that make it worse.

Speaker 139 You know, they're panicking or they're trying to get so just to have a head coach come over and say, Hey, I trust you, settle it down, whatever happened, happened. We just need one drive.

Speaker 139 And then I've seen clips of even digs being mic'd up, going up to the coach, being like, Hey, anything you want me to echo and get it back and around the team.

Speaker 139 So, when you have vets that are buying in, you know, Vrabel's doing things right, but we talk about with the Jets. None of it matters if you don't figure it out at the quarterback position.

Speaker 139 It looks like he's figured it out. And whatever, whatever role you play on this New England Patriots team, you will be a king in the New England area.
Like, if you you are a Patriot, it didn't matter.

Speaker 139 Like, I'm sure it was like this in Green Bay or in Pittsburgh. You can be the 52nd man on the roster.

Speaker 139 You're going to be going and getting a few grand for the rest of your life, signing autographs whenever you want. So, I love what he's doing.

Speaker 139 And obviously, you know, they're used to championships up there, and they look like they have the right pieces in place to go and get another one.

Speaker 5 Yeah, you become a made man in Pittsburgh as well.

Speaker 62 That's why the 2005 team going back to Pittsburgh this weekend was such a big deal, I think, and an influence on the current team.

Speaker 120 But New England has had so much success, and just getting a chance to relive that through Drake May has to be special.

Speaker 42 What are they calling him?

Speaker 204 I saw it on the internet. I really wish I kind of thought of it first, but a mobile Matt Stafford.
And it's basically to a T.

Speaker 204 I mean, AQ brought up one of his throws against the Saints where he's stepping up off the wrong foot, just a little flick, touchdown.

Speaker 161 And I'll tell you what, it looked a lot like Matt Stafford.

Speaker 39 Drake May passes Patrick Mahomes for the longest streak of games, a 200-plus pass yards and 100-plus passer rating by a player under the age of 24.

Speaker 97 He's under 24 still.

Speaker 180 Oh, Oh, yeah.

Speaker 106 Eight of them straight and they're only rolling.

Speaker 34 AJ, what do you think about the culture that Vrabel's setting?

Speaker 200 Are the Patriots for real?

Speaker 21 The Patriots are for real.

Speaker 59 Drake May's number two in the MVP odds right now.

Speaker 204 Still playing the Jets twice.

Speaker 232 Jeez. Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 189 it shows. It shows how valuable it is when you figure out that if you're drafting a quarterback in the first round, it pays to get it right.

Speaker 189 When you get it right and then you pair that up with Mike Vrabel and what he has done throughout that whole team, yeah, like that's why the Patriots are rolling.

Speaker 189 And watching Drake walk in, like, that's pretty awesome, man. Like, that's such a New England thing, too.
Like, these college kids chanting MVP for him. Like, he said he didn't expect it.

Speaker 189 Like, it's a good time to be a Patriot, I feel like, right now. It probably will for, you know, the next 10, 12, 15 years, it looks like.

Speaker 65 Looks like it.

Speaker 204 And that's why, no matter what, no matter how you feel about the crafts, like, it took balls to fire Draw Mayo after one year. Like, it really did, because Rabel was out there.

Speaker 204 And Drake May might still be Drake May,

Speaker 204 whether

Speaker 204 Mayo was there or not. But if Mayo's there, McDaniels isn't there.
And McDaniels is a huge reason of his success.

Speaker 140 And not not to mention like doug marone who's the o-line coach now huge reason for the offensive line success like it for the crafts truthfully hats off because it was nothing without that when he said mcdaniels you gave a big point you love what they're doing with ray comes that's exactly where i was going to go next scheme and fitter everything and mcdaniel is back to doing the same stuff they did when brady was there it's fullback it's hey let's start with the run game let's get the play action going let's get him easy throws early get his confidence up and then let's take the shots and he has the ability to take the shots they've gotten better with the O-line.

Speaker 140 You mentioned Doug Marone. That's one of the biggest hirings all offseason.
Former head coach, O-line guru, right?

Speaker 140 Like he comes in there after having Skarneckia there for so many years as the O-line coach, took a step backwards, get Marone back in. Now they're playing at a high level.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I love the thought of McDaniels going back up there, having success, and already tasting what a head coaching was like and being like, nah, I don't think that

Speaker 37 I'm good with just kind of chilling here.

Speaker 165 Family likes it here.

Speaker 170 I mean, we fucking, we've seen a lot of places.

Speaker 159 Yeah, we turned a plane around, obviously, going to Indy, but we went out to Denver.

Speaker 91 We did some other stuff.

Speaker 18 And we're good here, here, especially with how good Drake May is going to be.

Speaker 108 I think BA almost had that mindset with Andrew Luck.

Speaker 39 Now, BA hadn't been a head coach a couple different times with having failing whenever Andrew Luck became an offense coordinator, but BA was with Andrew's rookie year.

Speaker 107 And I think if you asked BA, BA would have been good, which is, all right, we'll just do this.

Speaker 15 Now, I'm getting offered some other stuff, so I'm going to need a little bit more.

Speaker 159 You can go ahead and find that somewhere else.

Speaker 99 All right, fuck.

Speaker 164 I'll go be a head coach, I guess. Arizona Cardinals.

Speaker 17 And then I'll be a head coach, Tampa Buccaneers, and I'll win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 13 But some of those coordinators, they do see something and they see what their life has been.

Speaker 17 And it's like, this is a happy life for my family.

Speaker 26 I'm going to get paid a couple million bucks here, and we're going to have success. We're going to be hunting for it.

Speaker 178 Maybe they stick around up there.

Speaker 139 Especially playing with it for a defensive hick or not an offense. Like,

Speaker 139 it's your show. Like, you run the show.
Like, we trust you with the offense. And obviously, Josh McDaniels, he's a made man in New England.
He's won multiple Super Bowls.

Speaker 139 You know, Coach Tom Brady, all the good things. But, like, yeah, when you have that pairing, obviously that was the pairing with Bill and all the different OCs that came through.

Speaker 139 I'm sure OCs probably like that with that

Speaker 139 relationship as well.

Speaker 215 All right, so those are some takeaways from the week.

Speaker 59 Let's go to AQ's takeaways from week nine of the NFL season.

Speaker 65 Here we go.

Speaker 174 Brissette's brilliance on Big Dons.

Speaker 30 Obviously, you're the Arizona Cardinals color commentator.

Speaker 17 Had a big one on Monday night as those of us that couldn't watch on YouTube TV listen to your call, and that's kind of how we survived through it.

Speaker 26 Also, we appreciate you doing that.

Speaker 37 But you're saying on Big Dons, Brissette showcases brilliance.

Speaker 45 What do you mean by that?

Speaker 140 Yeah, yeah he's been great on third down i think a lot of times i mentioned it earlier you just run a screen or hand it off on a draw they they run pressure right here first third down of the game watch the subtle move left put it right on marvin harrison jr and by the way he was fantastic in this game they target him early and often next clip right here again bring the blitz you get the overload right check out this blitz debuts they're gonna drop out the left and bring the db get the overload to the right there comes the db sit in the pocket and deliver another one trusted it trusted it that was third and 10 huge gain 15 yard gain this last one, 18 yard gain on third down.

Speaker 140 Again, here it is. Five man rush.
That's another blitz. Sit in the pocket.
Feel the pressure.

Speaker 68 Deliver it on time.

Speaker 140 Dimes.

Speaker 14 It feels like there's one guy he's throwing that ball to a lot.

Speaker 76 Jacoby sees, we got a man out there.

Speaker 120 Oh, yeah, Marvin Harrison Jr.

Speaker 77 Yeah, we should throw him the ball.

Speaker 70 Yeah, but he dropped the ball early.

Speaker 60 Yeah, but also he didn't do the combine.

Speaker 209 He didn't do the meetings, and we still draft him really hot because this guy is a freak show.

Speaker 174 They're really finding him out there, it feels like.

Speaker 139 Yeah, I love it. When you build that continuity, you build that trust with the young wide receiver and the quarterback.
Same thing with Trey McBride.

Speaker 139 Like when you build that with them, because you wanted more out of Marvin Harrison since coming into the league, you see these young wide receivers take over early, so get him going.

Speaker 139 His pops came out and said, Hey, I don't know what the fuck's going on out there. So they figured it out.
I'd love to see what I see them.

Speaker 98 Some of them are brilliant.

Speaker 17 I mean, there's been a lot of conversation about what goes on over there.

Speaker 6 Jacoby Prissette, incredible leader, and I think everybody's feeling it in the building, is what Peter Schrager said.

Speaker 108 What's your next takeaway coming out of week nine of the NFL season?

Speaker 140 Akush, Darnold dropping dimes.

Speaker 98 Oh,

Speaker 140 he started this game 16 of 16. He was unbelievable.
Let's take a look at this first play right here. Hits Arroyo, the rookie tight end.

Speaker 100 Watch this ball.

Speaker 140 Just over. Look at that scene.

Speaker 57 How good is that?

Speaker 140 And there's about 16 clips like that in this game. I only chose three here.
Let's look at this next one.

Speaker 140 Sit back, sit back, watch this. A little hitch, drop it to JSN on this island, just drops it in a bucket.
This last one.

Speaker 116 Two minutes, too.

Speaker 140 Let's take a look at Gray Zabel, the left guard first. Let's take a look at this one.
He recognizes.

Speaker 212 Oh, we get a dropper. Boom.

Speaker 140 Get him out of the way. Step left.
Hit the seven route to the rookie Horton. Unbelievable.
Yeah, Sam Darnold's special.

Speaker 126 What they're doing on the road, too, is insane.

Speaker 105 11-1.

Speaker 102 Yeah, on the road.

Speaker 97 And this is a long-ass trip.

Speaker 60 I mean, D.C.,

Speaker 45 Seattle, that's a long-ass trip.

Speaker 97 They look more prepared than anybody else.

Speaker 40 McDonald's an incredible leader.

Speaker 88 Darnold, perfect quarterback for them.

Speaker 140 He's incredible, and they are the best in the National Football League. Kubiak comes in as the offensive coordinator.
They are leading the league in play-action pass.

Speaker 57 It's incredible what they've been doing.

Speaker 3 Good for Sam Darnold, by the way.

Speaker 93 We've talked about it a lot of times. Good for Sam Darnold.

Speaker 50 We thought he he was going to see how to disappear.

Speaker 99 Yeah. We thought there was a chance that was going to happen.

Speaker 165 They had a completely different mindset.

Speaker 17 They're taking over over there in the NFC West.

Speaker 56 And then, obviously, your big takeaway, number one, is

Speaker 105 Curtin Cole. Curtin Call.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Steel Curtain.

Speaker 57 Yeah, let's take a look.

Speaker 121 They played like Steel Curtain, didn't they?

Speaker 140 Yeah, two batted balls right in a row. 36 years old.
Cam Hayward, look at this. Swaps a touchdown, batted pass.

Speaker 117 That's the first guy.

Speaker 140 Now let's get to the next one. Here we go, Mr.
TJ Watt.

Speaker 117 Little, did you see that?

Speaker 140 Can we run that back real quick? Watch him fake the long arm, then go to the dip and rip. Goes right around, sack, fumble, and recover.

Speaker 68 They baited butter right there.

Speaker 140 Got him. Unbelievable.

Speaker 8 Now, let's go to the other side.

Speaker 109 No, I'm just saying, why are they doing it against us?

Speaker 140 Sorry, here it comes again. Other side.
High Smith. This looks familiar, right? Dip and rip, go around, sack.

Speaker 109 So honestly, I was watching them get beat like turnstiles against a first team.

Speaker 137 You know, you just showcased a couple of them here.

Speaker 109 Our offensive line has been good.

Speaker 45 Is this the depth issue with quarterback?

Speaker 26 Is this just pure pressure?

Speaker 34 Like, what is it?

Speaker 17 Why do you think this happened on this particular game versus maybe every other game this season?

Speaker 140 So I think their tackles were a little soft, and they didn't do as much play action with the chipping and all that stuff, which I'm really confused about because they got some of the best edge rushers in the game.

Speaker 140 The other thing inside, Quentin Nelson always struggles against the Steelers for whatever reason. If you look over the years, he's always struggled against Cam Hayward and Fletcher Cox, both what?

Speaker 140 Big, powerful dudes in the middle. So I think he puts a little bit too much onus on trying to sit and then get swimmed.
And then there you go.

Speaker 140 You get the battered ball, you get the sack, you get whatever it is.

Speaker 119 Yeah, Cam Hayward's a beast.

Speaker 106 Been around a long time.

Speaker 73 Monster. Yeah, he's one of the pillars of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 123 That's why they had to get a deal done with him before the season started.

Speaker 79 But their D-line played like, you know, I would assume Steelers fans thought with the amount of money that they've given to them, exactly how they would have hoped they would play all season.

Speaker 39 Let's head to hammer.

Speaker 53 What do you think about the steel curtain call, AP Tone?

Speaker 198 Yeah, it's awesome. And AQ highlighted the guys on the outside in Highsmith and Watt, but like he talked about Cam, who's 97, 95, Keanu Benton, and 99, Derek Carmen, our first round pick.

Speaker 198 Like, they were awesome as well. So, the three in the middle stopped the run, and then the Edges were able to pin their ears back and get to Danny Dimes.
So, like, if we can do that, Super Bowl.

Speaker 140 I think there's a sack on there of 95. I think this is the clip right here, actually, against Gonzalves.

Speaker 117 Look at that move.

Speaker 57 Little Reggie White inside Hump Moons.

Speaker 65 Hey, Skimmy.

Speaker 6 I mean, that looks like a teach tape there on how you use your hands, especially in the middle of a line.

Speaker 132 Jalen Ramsey playing safety and Tomlin committing to that, or Jalen committing to safety going forward because of injuries.

Speaker 107 What does that do for the Steelers defense?

Speaker 139 I mean, I like Jalen Ramsey. I love him as a say as a defensive player, period.
He can play the slot, he can play outside, he can play safety at this stage in his career.

Speaker 139 I'm sure he would probably want to pick one and just because he's such a smart player.

Speaker 139 So, when you can see the game and prepare and game plan and do all that shit, watch cut-ups, whatever you're doing from one position that you're going to be playing majority, that can make you much more impactful.

Speaker 139 But you got to stay healthy and you got to have guys that are talented enough to hold up on the edge.

Speaker 154 AJ, the Steelers' defense has always been good.

Speaker 77 You know, that's why the Steel Curtain is a real thing. Pittsburgh defense, like a

Speaker 156 defense.

Speaker 60 Yeah. Pittsburgh.

Speaker 17 It's just kind of what you think about.

Speaker 24 Honestly, Bill Tower, obviously, his team's great defense.

Speaker 137 Talk about that.

Speaker 20 You go all the way through this Tomlin era.

Speaker 40 It's all you always have good defense.

Speaker 79 He spent a lot of money.

Speaker 122 Pittsburgh's expecting good defense.

Speaker 79 They spent a lot of money on good defense.

Speaker 22 So when they don't have great defense at the beginning of the season, there is calls for fire alarms to be pulled.

Speaker 75 They show up like this.

Speaker 29 Do you think this is what they're going to look like the rest of the way, AJ Hawk?

Speaker 189 Yeah, I think sometimes, you know, like with six turnovers, coaches always say, turnovers come in bunches, so start getting them, and then, bam, they will continue to show up.

Speaker 189 I think as a defense, you can kind of like build momentum and have games like this that are pivotal games that we look back on after the season and you think like, okay, we finally started to put it together.

Speaker 189 And that was one game where we figured out where a lot of, it clicked in a lot of our guys' heads of, hey, this is what we are, this is what we are capable of doing.

Speaker 139 It's good breakdown. Do you take any ownership?

Speaker 139 of giving the fucking rat poison and finally putting

Speaker 140 it. Listen, some people got to learn how to handle success, you know?

Speaker 198 whenever you get success you got to handle it you got to show up the next week they they laid an egg i don't know what to tell you that's not my fault toen final thoughts yeah a couple unsung heroes payton wilson i believe he's had 13 tackles back-to-back weeks he's 41 he's the one who batted it coming off the edge uh that jack sawyer caught and then trade deadline didn't happen yesterday it happened last week got kyle dugger from the patriots he played i think like 74 of 75 snaps or something 68 of 69 something like that he came in didn't hear his name once in a bad way on the game on sunday so him and ramsey at the safety positions really kind of shirred things up.

Speaker 30 Congrats to you, Steelers fans.

Speaker 143 Back on the wagon. Right.

Speaker 127 Age, I don't know if you know that they're winning the Super Bowl again.

Speaker 189 The Steelers? Yep. Yeah, I feel that.
I felt that. I mean, you could tell on Tone's face.
Like, yeah, that's what they think.

Speaker 81 Did you get a text or anything about not picking the Steelers this weekend?

Speaker 189 I did not actually know. I forgot I didn't pick them.

Speaker 105 Now you say that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you took the Colts. We all took it.

Speaker 189 I told you I got to take the... I said, I got to, I was a believer of the Colts.
I was like, I got to pick them now until they prove to me that I shouldn't pick him, I guess.

Speaker 113 You remember last time whenever we were out in Utah, they were chanting Fire Canada.

Speaker 148 A lot of Steelers fans in Utah.

Speaker 97 Okay. I think that's just, I don't know why.

Speaker 107 I don't know if Pittsburgh has marketed Utah, but it feels like there's a lot of Steelers fans out there every time we go out there.

Speaker 51 So many Steelers fans on my way offstage out of there going, like, tomorrow we got the Colts.

Speaker 120 And I go, we might hang 50 on you.

Speaker 75 We might like literally just so matter of fact, that's how I was talking.

Speaker 129 Like, hey, this Colts offense, absolute juggernaut.

Speaker 18 Your defense, not good, right?

Speaker 92 Isn't that kind of what's been happening?

Speaker 116 We might run wild on you.

Speaker 37 All those people watching that Steelers game, they thought the same thing going into it.

Speaker 165 Yansers won't admit it, but they were definitely all thinking the same exact thing.

Speaker 91 Holy shit, we're going to lose by 60 to this Colts team. Our defense can't stop a fucking nosebleed.
There's no chance we're going to be able to do that.

Speaker 97 Then five turnovers, they're swarming all over the place.

Speaker 17 They got sacks in bunches.

Speaker 195 They got the boys going crazy.

Speaker 32 The 2005 team's in there. Yansers are like, just,

Speaker 54 I can't believe the Indianapolis Colts thought they were going to come in here.

Speaker 103 What fucking asshole said that was was going to happen?

Speaker 230 It's like, oh, everybody was thinking that.

Speaker 44 Now, fully different trajectory.

Speaker 45 And it might be the 2005 Bulls.

Speaker 139 Yeah, I think that's the X Factor. I know it definitely played a role.
I don't care if it was college or pro.

Speaker 139 Like, if you have a whole team of your guys who came in and kind of, hey, this is a standard. Obviously, Steelers, Steel Curtain goes way back.

Speaker 212 Terry Debaton.

Speaker 99 Yeah,

Speaker 139 we got Dick LeBeau in the building. We got all these legends.
And the Steelers already do a great job of keeping those guys around.

Speaker 139 Yeah, those guys are going to play better. I didn't think they were going to show show back up as the legit fucking steel curtain, but they definitely

Speaker 179 showing up for

Speaker 17 people showing up for legends.

Speaker 6 And that makes sense for Pittsburgh.

Speaker 111 Like, it just makes sense for the entirety.

Speaker 182 Hey, Quest, a lot of happiness these dudes brought to our lives.

Speaker 140 Yeah, they sure did. And I got to play with some of them when I got drafted there.
I mean, look at big Casey Hampton. He looks like he can still play.

Speaker 26 Yeah, he certainly can.

Speaker 34 He actually looks better, man.

Speaker 65 Yeah, he does.

Speaker 173 Yeah, he looks incredible.

Speaker 75 Casey had to do what Casey had to do.

Speaker 102 I also think Casey, after the amount of respect we have for sumo wrestling, I think think we can speak on this casey hampton would have been a grand master champion yeah sumo wrestler if he would have known about the sport i think with his leverage his ability to do his thing look at fanica that guy was what down to like 135 pounds at one point because he was running iron man yeah things like that good squad jeff reed just being right in the middle of the staff i do love yes i'll continue shout out b-man aaron smith oh yeah there he is up right travis kershke big hokey up top oh i like it kendall simmons remember him i do aj hook

Speaker 139 IT.

Speaker 140 He doesn't.

Speaker 105 AJ.

Speaker 212 I'm just looking around.

Speaker 189 I'm perusing through there. Sorry.

Speaker 232 Sorry.

Speaker 98 Hey, who's 81? Who's 81 down there?

Speaker 1 Who's 81?

Speaker 198 That's the greatest special teams players Tealers have ever had. That's Sean Moray.

Speaker 117 I remember the name. I remember the name, Sean Moray.
Great hair. I like the way Sean Moray.

Speaker 161 91 could still play as well.

Speaker 140 That's Aaron Smith. Greatest 3-4 defensive end of all time right there.

Speaker 73 Great jawline, too.

Speaker 17 That fucking guy looks like he just got done roping.

Speaker 64 Jesus Christ, what a dog.

Speaker 189 Back foot.

Speaker 198 Bottom left.

Speaker 140 Jeff Harding's Harding's up top, right in the middle behind Reed.

Speaker 198 Dan Crowder right there in the middle, number three, five.

Speaker 140 Yeah.

Speaker 99 Who's number three?

Speaker 117 Jeff Reed.

Speaker 129 Yeah, that was a kicker. That was a kicker.

Speaker 204 He then went on to become the lead singer of Creed.

Speaker 98 Actually,

Speaker 91 he looks sweet.

Speaker 202 Jeff Reed, exactly.

Speaker 152 Hey, everything you're thinking.

Speaker 117 Everything you're thinking right now, awesome.

Speaker 169 Jeff Reed is, yes.

Speaker 129 Just by looking at him, yes, he is everything you're doing.

Speaker 139 Legend.

Speaker 116 Yeah, he is.

Speaker 77 Made a lot of kicks for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 156 A lot of kicks for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 160 I realize Tommy Gunn and Chuck Pagano are the same person.

Speaker 173 Yeah.

Speaker 160 They look identical.

Speaker 128 I guess Tommy Gunn Maddox, top left corner there, eight quarterback, obviously, for the team.

Speaker 18 He does have a little Chuck Pagano in him.

Speaker 91 I guess he was a super vibes guy in the locker room.

Speaker 160 Oh, I don't doubt it.

Speaker 91 I guess Tommy Gunn was a real lightning rod in there.

Speaker 139 FL MVP.

Speaker 182 Yeah, I guess he was really the straw potentially in L Locker.

Speaker 73 Really? Yeah.

Speaker 209 From what I've been told, I've heard some stories of some stuff just in the past. Who knows what's real, what isn't.

Speaker 108 But all of them are like, yup, Tom B.

Speaker 91 Maddox is awesome, basically, is how they talk about him.

Speaker 58 That whole team is, and you're right.

Speaker 38 Them being around certainly did something.

Speaker 30 Wizen Hunt there.

Speaker 163 I just saw him.

Speaker 209 I just, that's my first time catching eyes on Wizen Hunter.

Speaker 105 I forgot

Speaker 32 the amount of legends that are in there.

Speaker 30 Former GM?

Speaker 57 Kevin Colbert.

Speaker 230 Right there. Yep.

Speaker 129 Golly,

Speaker 134 that's our childhood.

Speaker 64 Yeah. Thanks for showing up, boys.

Speaker 81 I wish it was a different week.

Speaker 98 So to help with Mr.

Speaker 17 Lawton for scheduling that for the Colts weekend, can we have that be another?

Speaker 68 Hey, homecoming weekend.

Speaker 70 Can we do another one?

Speaker 159 Can we do another weekend?

Speaker 91 Maybe not the Indianapolis Colts.

Speaker 145 Let us kind of have our thing and do our thing here. That would have been great.

Speaker 159 Let's take a break.

Speaker 40 On the other side, Stanford Steve will be joining us for another college football convo.

Speaker 19 And I'll tell you what, with the College Football Playoff Committee's first bracket reveal, there's going to be a lot of talk about A.J.

Speaker 24 Hawk. Who's sitting in number one?

Speaker 189 I think that's the Ohio State Luck guys.

Speaker 4 They played anybody.

Speaker 172 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Have they?

Speaker 168 They showed up.

Speaker 186 They showed up and dominated everybody.

Speaker 1 They've dominated everybody.

Speaker 189 Oh, who they played last week, HQ?

Speaker 212 Relax, dude.

Speaker 168 They played a terrible team last week.

Speaker 117 Peggy didn't just show up.

Speaker 1 I was there.

Speaker 1 They got athletes.

Speaker 189 They got studs, man. They look good.

Speaker 1 They looked apart.

Speaker 4 They looked good. They looked apart against Oregon, too.

Speaker 179 Remember, that goes a couple overtimes.

Speaker 172 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 90 They win that game.

Speaker 145 Who knows where we're at right now?

Speaker 160 Yeah, they're probably ranked number three or four in the in the playoffs.

Speaker 206 Because then they probably beat UCLA.

Speaker 117 Certainly beat Iowa.

Speaker 92 Then they beat Northwestern at home.

Speaker 140 Then they play Ohio State when they got a Heisman Trophy candidate and they just let them run by him all day long. Like he didn't know he could run.
Like they didn't know he could get behind the D.

Speaker 47 Oh, they trust our guys.

Speaker 57 They were calling quarters.

Speaker 117 They trust our guys.

Speaker 198 Wait till you see this highlight of the linebacker come up. RVL Reese.

Speaker 99 He's the guy. What number is he?

Speaker 105 Eight?

Speaker 212 Yeah, so

Speaker 198 there's about to be an offensive play here. Jeremiah Smith, obviously, one hand, he's insane, and then you get this sick look,

Speaker 212 right?

Speaker 212 Oh, yeah,

Speaker 189 he's gonna be an awesome pro as well.

Speaker 189 Teach tape, he's like 6'4, like 245, too. He's a monster.

Speaker 124 He's huge.

Speaker 118 You and Sean Perkins before the first college game day, whenever we're there for the Texas game, and Texas is back to being who maybe everybody thought they could be.

Speaker 37 They're like, hey, I was like, Sean, who should I say up there?

Speaker 94 It makes you look like a super genius.

Speaker 136 He goes, Number eight, R. Vel Reese.

Speaker 91 He's the one.

Speaker 182 I go sweet thank you so much I go up there completely forget just basically just completely forget and then I think he had like six sacks or something in the first like two weeks something like that they're like hey R.

Speaker 112 Vel Reese is the guy I'm like Sean knew before everybody and I could have looked like a genius but instead I'm riding alongside the wave of holy hell who's that guy with everybody else but you look at their schedule

Speaker 39 Des Desmond Hauer makes a point.

Speaker 163 Now, he's a Michigan guy, so he's always going to make a point about Ohio State, but it is like you guys have just smacked everybody in the mouth, basically.

Speaker 30 It's just everybody. And it's not your fault.

Speaker 93 I mean, fuck. It's not Ohio State's fault.

Speaker 110 And they've showed up and dominated everybody, but we don't really know.

Speaker 81 We don't really, we have no idea because everything has looked so damn easy for them.

Speaker 39 But that might just be who they are. Yeah.

Speaker 196 They might just fucking do that to everybody.

Speaker 62 We have no idea.

Speaker 77 Certainly did to Penn State.

Speaker 153 What are you guys going to do?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 212 We're narrowing it down. Tracking planes, I heard them.
Tracking planes flying boom.

Speaker 140 And we're narrowing it.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 189 Throw your hat in the ring, AQ.

Speaker 209 Sorry.

Speaker 112 Pan probably pretty good for that position. Yeah.

Speaker 189 Tell me to do it for 15 a year.

Speaker 47 15 hunch because you love Penn State.

Speaker 139 Just do it for one of those stupid Jeff Landry contracts that he was talking about.

Speaker 1 Yeah, one of those

Speaker 139 incentives and paying by game.

Speaker 117 Someone's a little salty.

Speaker 161 They don't know Nebraska football.

Speaker 172 Oh, yeah.

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Speaker 13 The conversation we're about to have is not like the other ones.

Speaker 165 No, no, ladies and gentlemen, it's time for another college football combo with Stanford Steve.

Speaker 102 What's going on?

Speaker 164 What is so

Speaker 160 digital camo?

Speaker 37 Yeah, what's going on?

Speaker 39 I mean, you look really cool right now.

Speaker 135 What is

Speaker 135 crushing?

Speaker 41 So what do we have here, Steve? What is this?

Speaker 201 Just some Navy, Fear of the Bones, you know, Jolly Rogers, a little navy big game this week

Speaker 118 hey navy tough one against North Texas not as tough as Tyler Huang with you under the upright though you know

Speaker 201 I stand by it sorry Jonah Jonah Jonah yeah a lot of kicks I saw this weekend looked very similar that were all called no good

Speaker 34 I appreciate you doing this for the good of the team.

Speaker 66 I appreciate Herb Street bringing out the blockers.

Speaker 30 I respect the fact that Jonah was a high school kicker, all region, going three of five.

Speaker 112 And I also love the fact that everybody was kind of saying, no, I think it hooked in.

Speaker 14 And you were like, nope, because I heard everybody in the year going, no, I think it's good.

Speaker 18 I think it's good.

Speaker 5 I don't think so, says Stanford Steve.

Speaker 225 Everybody in there was saying, it's good. It's good.
It's good.

Speaker 52 And you're like, and then you even went a step further.

Speaker 14 Yep, that thing actually was, nope, sorry about it.

Speaker 65 That one left, brother.

Speaker 59 Yeah, that one as this kid's celebrating.

Speaker 27 Steve's looking him right in his eye.

Speaker 30 I don't think so, brother.

Speaker 58 You think that?

Speaker 18 Once a review, obviously they counted it from the angles that we had, but I want to let you know, I appreciate your integrity.

Speaker 52 You say, with these eyes, I didn't see it go in.

Speaker 18 And that's what that segment needs, is good integrity in there.

Speaker 213 So thank you, Stanford Steve.

Speaker 201 Yeah, I didn't think it was conclusive. That's, you know, when it went to the review, I didn't think it was conclusive.
So, yeah, we're moving on. Can't wait till this week.

Speaker 190 We'll get after it.

Speaker 105 Yeah, I hope. Go to Lubbock.

Speaker 14 I liked your move.

Speaker 26 I'm going to let you know.

Speaker 66 I do appreciate your move.

Speaker 148 And if the camera angle wasn't where it was, it might have looked a little different.

Speaker 73 Like maybe it was a miss, and you're a hero.

Speaker 138 Instead, I think you were number six or 16th trending topic in the United States of America.

Speaker 19 And a lot of people were saying this guy's an asshole.

Speaker 117 This guy sucks. Yeah, this guy's an asshole.

Speaker 61 So I appreciate you sticking up.

Speaker 63 And then your tweet later.

Speaker 202 Well, that SMU kick looked pretty similar.

Speaker 178 What was that? Same thing.

Speaker 191 Same thing.

Speaker 65 He's got a point.

Speaker 59 And they said, no good there.

Speaker 89 Steve's like, oh, I'm the bad guy.

Speaker 54 I know ball is what Steve's saying.

Speaker 110 Oh, we covered the upright.

Speaker 99 You see?

Speaker 175 Oh, no, we didn't.

Speaker 43 Same kick.

Speaker 201 That's no good. I like the same kick.

Speaker 8 That's no good.

Speaker 98 That's no good.

Speaker 59 That is no good, Ty. You're 100%.

Speaker 201 Side by side, they're both wide right.

Speaker 23 Stanford Steve, you're a good man.

Speaker 220 We appreciate the hell out of you.

Speaker 116 Love you, Steve.

Speaker 59 We also did go to a website because you told us to.

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 20 Although, we don't love that you were told to do that.

Speaker 18 We went because we love you.

Speaker 34 We support you. Same with Herbie.

Speaker 109 And just know that, Stanford Steve, even though people are saying that you're trying to, you know, rob these kids of money and everything like that, we think you're a good guy.

Speaker 18 We love you, Steve.

Speaker 36 We love you, buddy.

Speaker 201 Love you guys, too. Okay.

Speaker 12 Appreciate you. You know what else we love?

Speaker 133 The thought of starting with 12 counting down to one.

Speaker 108 And last night, we got the first bracket from the actual committee that's going to be doing the selecting of the college football playoff.

Speaker 128 What's your big takeaway from last night, Steve?

Speaker 49 And what you'd be thinking about?

Speaker 22 Basically, Tone's take was they don't respect Oregon much.

Speaker 83 It seems like Oregon doesn't have a lot of respect.

Speaker 92 They're one loss away from potentially being out of this entire thing.

Speaker 81 Is that something you agree with?

Speaker 18 And what else did you see?

Speaker 201 I see where they're coming from with Oregon, but I get it. You know, with the best win being against Northwestern.
Now, the good thing about Oregon, they have plenty of opportunities moving forward.

Speaker 201 I thought the top three, I wanted to see what that was going to look like. And I had a feeling Ohio State was going to be with what their game control and what their dominance has looked like.

Speaker 201 Plenty of people have talked about the competition that they've played, but I look at them being ahead of Indiana simply due to one reason.

Speaker 201 Look who Indiana scheduled in the ATA conference, and look what Ohio State did in scheduling Texas in that opener.

Speaker 201 So I have no problem with Ohio State being number one. AM might have the best win in the country at Notre Dame, but there's other games with the defense.

Speaker 201 I thought the board chair made good, valid points with how dominant the defenses of Indiana and Ohio State have been compared to one little thing about AM. Yeah, the defense has given up more points.

Speaker 201 The biggest takeaway to me is that this committee seems to be rewarding close losses.

Speaker 201 And when you look at Notre Dame with two close losses at that, you know, last play of the game, they're ahead of, say, you know, Texas, Iowa, plenty to play for, moving ahead.

Speaker 201 But it seems like they got a lot of credit for keeping it close against Indiana in a home game.

Speaker 201 So that was one thing I thought was pretty evident, that close losses look to be a factor for this committee.

Speaker 16 AP Tone, your thoughts on the close loss theory from Stanford Steve?

Speaker 198 Yeah, I mean, he's absolutely correct. I mean, Notre Dame lost on, you know, a fumbled snap at home to A ⁇ M in overtime and then a close loss down in Miami in week one.

Speaker 198 And then if you want to talk about Texas Tech, who is right ahead of them, their only loss is on a last-second play to Arizona State.

Speaker 198 So when Steve's talking about the close losses, for sure, and Georgia's, you know, close loss would be

Speaker 198 better than Oregon's, obviously, because, you know, IU kind of handled them a good bit in their one loss being to Bamo, who's the number four seed.

Speaker 198 So, yeah, as far as Steve's talking about those close losses, that is definitely a thing, and that's definitely going to drive people crazy.

Speaker 19 Yes, definitely going to drive people crazy, but this is also going to make some football people pumped about, hey, who do you play?

Speaker 20 What are your losses?

Speaker 133 Where are your losses? What do your losses look like?

Speaker 50 When were your losses?

Speaker 108 Like, that is something that I think a lot of people hope that they add into the decision-making process.

Speaker 115 What are they going strictly off?

Speaker 32 Each kind of committee has their own thing, right? Stanford, Steve, and that kind of part of the problem.

Speaker 30 Like, this committee might view things vastly different than last year's committee.

Speaker 26 And then people will say, well, last year they didn't. And it's like, well, this is a different, a completely different situation, right?

Speaker 137 Isn't that kind of like the evolving process of the CFP committee?

Speaker 201 Yeah, that's, you know, you know, I think some things are subjective and objective. You know, people want to throw all those big words around.
I try and swatch the games and figure out who's the best.

Speaker 201 But the way my record is going this year, I can't be on that any say. So I'm going to listen to the people that are in the room in the committee.

Speaker 201 The one thing I will say is that the idea of the losses with miami uh you know i was interested in the miami notre dame comparison and miami being eight spots lower than notre dame uh tells you i think it's more recency uh you know miami is as frustrating in their losses as anybody uh you get a one loss where the quarterback throws four picks uh another loss i believe they had 13 penalties in an overtime game where they had to lead and had you know had a costly penalty for smu to get a field goal so miami is the one i think the biggest loser to me right now because when you look at them moving forward, there's not a lot of opportunities along with Vanderbilt.

Speaker 201 They don't have a lot of opportunities to get wins and move up as does Oregon, you know, or even say a Texas Tech or a BYU. Like they have ranked teams on their schedule.

Speaker 201 So Miami being down that far was pretty eye-opening to me.

Speaker 76 Yeah, bad for the ACC as well, you know, and obviously you lose games.

Speaker 209 That's what's going to happen, especially up there.

Speaker 26 And you start asking yourself, is there going to be two baids out of the ACC?

Speaker 193 Are they only going to get one?

Speaker 68 Go Go ahead, Con man.

Speaker 204 Yeah, Steve, looking at the games remaining, especially with those teams that are on that bracket, is Georgia Tech versus Georgia going to be the biggest game, you think, in that rivalry's history?

Speaker 204 But as far as just foreseeing what the playoff's going to be, Georgia Tech goes down, someone else goes in, Georgia goes down, they're out.

Speaker 204 All of a sudden, maybe a different SEC team, Texas, by chance, they slide in. What do you think about that situation kind of brewing now?

Speaker 201 Yeah, I think it's enormous, Connor. When you look at Georgia Tech and what they are, their strength of schedule, I believe, is in the hundreds.

Speaker 201 And, you know, that's a team that every year is going to play Georgia, right? So you got our conference game there.

Speaker 201 They go and schedule Colorado, who you think is going to be all right, but they're getting worse and worse every week.

Speaker 201 You beat Clemson, and Clemson might not make a bowl game. And it's just tough.

Speaker 201 And then you have that game that catches up to you where you can't get your defense on track against NC State and you get that first loss. But they are in control.

Speaker 201 You know, the comparative thing, and that's why I think the Miami Notre Name thing is unfortunate also, is as big as these conferences are, we get less and less head-to-head.

Speaker 201 And I think head-to-head should matter a ton. So the

Speaker 201 Georgia Tech game is going to be enormous as far as comparative. You know, it's an out-of-conference game.
It's an SEC versus ACC.

Speaker 201 And, you know, to Georgia Tech's point, it's not going to get in their way of making the ACC title game. But yeah,

Speaker 201 I thought they were ranked properly with what their resume actually is when you take a step back and look at it. But they got a couple chances for some monster wins.

Speaker 201 But yeah, that game is enormous to your point.

Speaker 77 You talk about the SEC and the ACC showing out there at that particular point for maybe how many bids should they have.

Speaker 45 And then the Big 12 obviously has a lot of teams vying for the Big 12 championship, still very much in it, which is a beautiful thing.

Speaker 164 I mean, BYU, Utah might be having a holy war reunion at the Big 12 Championship game. But then you think about that other conference, you know, the one up north.

Speaker 63 Go ahead, Ty.

Speaker 160 Yeah, Steve, when you look at the back half of the rankings with Iowa, Michigan, and USC all clustered right there, do you think that suggests that more than likely the Big Ten is only going to be a three-bid league?

Speaker 160 Because obviously, you could make the case that either SC or Iowa would swap with Oregon potentially because they both still have to play them.

Speaker 160 And then obviously they're, you know, kind of saving grace to get a fourth team in would be Michigan potentially beating Ohio State.

Speaker 160 But with the way this is set up right now, do you think that that means that the Big Ten is probably only getting three teams in?

Speaker 201 Yeah, that's the way it looks right now. What I will say to those teams individually, you know,

Speaker 201 control your own destiny,

Speaker 201 what have you.

Speaker 201 It's there. The issue I have is if Michigan wins and beats Ohio State, they're going to be in the Big Ten title game because there are other losses out of conference.

Speaker 201 So you would have potentially Indiana, Michigan, and Indianapolis and Ohio State sitting with one loss and the most recent number one team in the country, which would

Speaker 201 throw a whole flux. Iowa, it's there, man.

Speaker 201 I would be pumped if I was an Iowa fan.

Speaker 201 You're 20. Yeah, I mean, what a weekend for you.
You got the Packers Monday night. We got Iowa CBS 330.

Speaker 201 Good luck. I hope you don't have your kids this weekend.

Speaker 191 Jeez.

Speaker 78 Use the time. Send the kids out there.

Speaker 129 Send the kids out there.

Speaker 74 It's a big one.

Speaker 60 Iowa can win maybe the biggest game that they've had in a long time during the regular season.

Speaker 160 Yeah, I mean, it really is all in front of them. You know, it was kind of like a tongue-in-cheek fucking out.
Lingering. Yeah, lingering.

Speaker 160 But, like, they, I, I, as of right now, I really do feel like they're going to beat Oregon this week.

Speaker 160 I don't think there's been this much juice around an Iowa team in quite some time in the building as well. But then the true test, I mean, obviously, that's a test, but they have to go to USC.

Speaker 160 So it's like, if they could get through both those teams, though, like, look out. Iowa might be sneaking in there as like an 11 or a 12 seed.

Speaker 23 Go ahead, Tone.

Speaker 198 Steve, I was just looking at it and I brought it up earlier, but I wanted to get your opinion. Notre Dame's sitting at 10, and then right behind them, Texas and Oklahoma, both with two losses as well.

Speaker 198 Texas still has Georgia and A ⁇ M. Oklahoma's still got Bama.

Speaker 198 It's a big if, but if those teams went out, is there a chance they jumped Notre Dame and Notre Dame sitting on the outside with their two close losses?

Speaker 201 They should, but I don't see it happening.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 201 The most definite thing I feel about right now is that Notre Dame is going to get a home game in the playoff. When you look at what they've done, and you know,

Speaker 201 I just wish they were down a little bit so they had to earn that 10-game win streak to get in.

Speaker 201 And you prop them up again, like I said, to the two close losses, and then everybody throws away what they looked like last week against Boston College. It's good football.

Speaker 201 Boston College is atrocious. Stanford beat Boston College.
They are not a good football status.

Speaker 98 Let's play a goal.

Speaker 202 Bill O'Brien said they're showing up and fighting.

Speaker 52 Okay, you want to be negative?

Speaker 74 Get the hell on out of here.

Speaker 65 Signs up.

Speaker 139 Signs up. We're playing football.

Speaker 201 I'm above Bill O'Brien, but they're not a good outfit.

Speaker 177 As I said.

Speaker 117 Oh, that's what the guy asked in a question.

Speaker 140 Not a good outfit.

Speaker 15 Yeah, the guy asked in a question of Bill O'Brien said,

Speaker 208 this sucks, basically.

Speaker 164 And Bill O'Brien said, I don't want to hear it.

Speaker 129 This is a real press conference.

Speaker 39 It happened, what, yesterday, maybe two days ago?

Speaker 204 Yeah, and even worse, if you go back to how Bill O'Brien got there, guy could have been the OCO of Ohio State last year, if I do remember correctly, or is that two years ago?

Speaker 204 But either way, I think it makes sense now why Jeff Hafley left B.C.

Speaker 161 because they got no resources up there.

Speaker 32 Well, Bill O'Brien said his son's up and we're playing football.

Speaker 78 He's about sick of all the nickname.

Speaker 204 It's hockey season now for the BC East.

Speaker 178 Hey, they're going to be in that rosin four.

Speaker 13 We know they're going to be dangling around with their sticky mitts.

Speaker 45 We understand that that's going to happen.

Speaker 127 But yes, you're talking about Notre Dame's big-time wins.

Speaker 45 They're going to have to put on a show.

Speaker 80 I think Tone said at the beginning of the year, he said, if Notre Dame wins every game by 30 like they did last year, and they just kind of do that for the rest of the year, they're definitely going to get in the college football playoff.

Speaker 32 I assume they were already out because they had so many wins.

Speaker 14 But Texas A ⁇ M being who they are, obviously is a big deal for them.

Speaker 119 Like, I think that's a big deal.

Speaker 32 And then Rhys Davis, who is a very influential person in college football, he speaks to the committee.

Speaker 60 He's one of the only people that get to do that.

Speaker 76 He hosts College Game Day.

Speaker 165 He said Notre Dame eye test top five team in America.

Speaker 89 And it's like, maybe, and maybe just the two losses are completely tough luck almost because everybody talks about the Notre Dame schedule.

Speaker 126 Like Notre Dame is able to schedule whoever they want.

Speaker 17 They're independent. They're going to be on national TV.

Speaker 127 They got enough money. They're able to kind of do what they want.

Speaker 17 They don't have a conference championship.

Speaker 123 They have it easy when it comes to that.

Speaker 226 It's like they scheduled some tough ones early.

Speaker 148 They lost them both.

Speaker 17 And then the national narrative for the first time was like, Notre Dame is done.

Speaker 165 So it's like a very different Notre Dame season as opposed to like one where they're kind of who they played, who have they played, who they played.

Speaker 60 Now it's like, well, they've actually played top three teams, top three team, lost them close, very close, and they've dominated everybody else.

Speaker 164 They're going to get in, we all assume.

Speaker 173 Yeah.

Speaker 168 It's Notre Dame. It's Notre Dame.

Speaker 205 They should just say the start of the year, no matter what, Notre Dame, you lose to or last year auto bid.

Speaker 71 That should be a part of the rules because remember the SEC and the Big Ten allegedly are like, hey, if you make the championship game, you should be automatically in.

Speaker 80 So like, we, that's what I think was being talked about because, you know, the big angle started to become, well, these guys aren't going to want to play in championship games because it's another loss.

Speaker 53 Like, what does championship game mean?

Speaker 32 Championship game means nothing because these teams don't care because they just don't want to get there because they don't want to lose.

Speaker 108 And it's like, well, if you made an automatic bid for both finalists of the championships, then it's a whole different conversation.

Speaker 51 We're not there yet.

Speaker 176 You know, we're not there yet.

Speaker 6 But whenever we get there, maybe it is like finalists for the championship games get in and Notre Dame, if they have less than two losses, they also get a spot.

Speaker 107 All the other spots up for grabs.

Speaker 64 All the other spots up for grabs.

Speaker 107 There's a chance that they actually do that, Ty.

Speaker 160 Yeah, I mean, but

Speaker 160 it's Notre Dame. Okay.
Like, so we can say all this kind of stuff. It's one of the most powerful and biggest and most beloved institutions in the United States.

Speaker 160 So if they're even on the cusp of potentially getting in, you know, they're going to say, hey, you know, would you rather see Notre Dame or Memphis in the playoffs?

Speaker 213 Well, Memphis is obviously group of five.

Speaker 162 No, yeah, I get it.

Speaker 47 They've got their own slot. There's no reason for you to attack me.

Speaker 162 I'm just saying.

Speaker 160 I'm just saying, you know, if Notre Dame is even close to getting in.

Speaker 182 You think that committee is going to say?

Speaker 160 Got a lot of old white people on that committee. How many of those guys are Catholics?

Speaker 116 You think they're?

Speaker 162 I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 70 Yeah.

Speaker 162 Ed File.

Speaker 204 Espirito Santo. Espirito Santo.

Speaker 173 Amen.

Speaker 160 Let's get another name in this thing.

Speaker 112 Now, that is always the problem.

Speaker 212 That's what everybody thinks is actually happening.

Speaker 105 Okay.

Speaker 89 That's what everybody is thinking actually happening.

Speaker 73 And there's a chance anytime humans are involved, there is a little bit of bias.

Speaker 92 Now, let's talk about bias. Let's talk about trust.

Speaker 196 D-Bud has a question for you, Steve.

Speaker 139 Yeah, I want to ask you, Steve, maybe even you, Tony. The eye test: which one of these quarterbacks, if you pop up, which one of these quarterbacks do you trust the most down the stretch?

Speaker 139 Mendoza Moore.

Speaker 65 It's Mendoza.

Speaker 160 Simpson.

Speaker 139 Simpson.

Speaker 198 Saiyan. Says it.

Speaker 65 Reed.

Speaker 8 Bachmar. Gonner.

Speaker 180 Gronowski.

Speaker 173 Thank you. He's not on her.

Speaker 160 He should be.

Speaker 162 He's lingering, though.

Speaker 105 Blingering. Yeah.

Speaker 201 I mean, I look at all the toys that each quarterback has to play with, D-Butt, and they all have awesome, awesome

Speaker 201 deals where, you know, saying continually, you know, you see them open up the playbook more and more, more throws down the field.

Speaker 201 Marcel Reed, you know, doing more with his legs in that win the last time we saw him against LSU.

Speaker 201 Simpson's a guy that's probably responded the best to adversity, you know, knowing what Florida State looked like, but then ramping it up.

Speaker 201 And I thought him being the reason, you know, with third down, fourth down conversions at Missouri, at Georgia, jumping them early. I would probably

Speaker 201 trust Simpson because I've seen him face adversity and I know what I'm getting. But, I mean, the guy we're not even talking about in Mendoza, I'm not sure what Surat's going to do.

Speaker 201 Is he going to be out a couple of weeks? Indiana sounds like they got pretty banged up. So I'm interested to see how many guys they have.

Speaker 201 I'm not saying they're going to, you know, blow it at Penn State, but right now, when you're saying when all things aligned, I would look at Tyson.

Speaker 218 What do we even say in these words?

Speaker 146 Okay, blow it and all this other stuff. Let's not put that on the universe.

Speaker 107 Obviously, Indiana's having a miraculous run.

Speaker 92 Fernando Mendoza, an absolute stud, but you're right. The injury is certainly something.

Speaker 81 And AJ, let's talk about Julian Sane.

Speaker 80 He's the odds-on-favorite to win the Heisman.

Speaker 5 Nobody really talking about him strictly because he has so much talent or because you guys haven't played anybody.

Speaker 30 Not your fault, but you seemingly haven't played anybody, AJ.

Speaker 189 Yeah, I mean, they're in a tough spot. They are so good that no matter who they play, they're going to say, oh, this team sucks anyway.
Like Penn State started out.

Speaker 189 Weren't they number one in the country like preseason? Like, I understand things happen, but yeah, they're taking care of business. And

Speaker 189 I went to the first, this is the first Ohio State game I went to in person this year, the Penn State game, and watching, I was like, we got a little pregame field pass with my kids, and then they usher you up and get you off the field.

Speaker 189 You can't sit there and watch the game there. And I hung around and watched like the first couple drives.

Speaker 189 And Julian saying the ball, man, I tell you what, Pat, you know, when we see a guy throw a ball in person, you can kind of tell early. And that dude, he's got it.

Speaker 189 Like, he, I know he's throwing to some studs, but this dude, he has the moxie, how he carries himself, how he walks through the huddle, how everything about him, like he, he seems like he's been starting starting for 10 years.

Speaker 27 What year is this for him?

Speaker 189 Second year, I believe, right?

Speaker 212 Yeah, red shirt freshman, right?

Speaker 163 Oh, so he's got another year at least.

Speaker 167 That's great news for Ryan Day and obviously the entire offense, but he's not getting much chatter at all.

Speaker 129 And I love that Coach Saban said

Speaker 167 he was at Alabama and the coach had him play in scout team for an entire year.

Speaker 146 What a dumbass or something like that.

Speaker 145 It's like he has been high on sane.

Speaker 208 Coach Sabin has been high on saying since like before the Texas, Ohio State game.

Speaker 102 And now he's odds on favor to win the Heisman.

Speaker 133 Feels like the sports books are high on him.

Speaker 132 We need an Ohio State primetime matchup.

Speaker 6 We need a massive game.

Speaker 26 And AJ, to your point, Penn State was supposed to be that they're not.

Speaker 32 It's like every game is supposed to be, and then it's not.

Speaker 47 But there's teams that get caught by these teams, though.

Speaker 79 And Ohio State has not.

Speaker 207 They've maintained their dominance.

Speaker 213 And that defense is outrageous, AJ Hawk.

Speaker 189 That's the thing I wanted to ask Stanford Steve. We asked like, hey, which quarterback do you trust or pass the eye test?

Speaker 189 Which defense do you trust the most, most, Stanford Steve, when you look at those four top four to six teams?

Speaker 201 Yeah, I've thought about this a lot watching these teams, AJ. And to me, Ohio State plays better team defense.
Indiana has better difference makers up front.

Speaker 201 But when you, I mean, you guys talked about R. Val Reese earlier.
Like, I saw their first practice or their last practice before the Texas game. I'm like, who the hell is number eight?

Speaker 201 Where's he been hiding? And then he's just gone crazy this year. I love the, obviously, you love the back end styles, both of them, the speed they play with.
So I trust Ohio State the most.

Speaker 201 I would just, if Indiana's in that conversation, I understand it, but they have more difference makers up front. But Fisher didn't play against Maryland.
He's the quarterback of that defense.

Speaker 201 He really impressed me against Oregon. But overall, trust, I go with the Buckeyes.

Speaker 41 All right.

Speaker 220 We appreciate the hell out of you.

Speaker 10 Thank you so much for joining us.

Speaker 154 Oklahoma's defense also very, very good.

Speaker 159 They're right on the outside.

Speaker 80 If they're able to find their way in, and we're heading to Lubbock, Texas down here.

Speaker 54 BYU, Texas Tech.

Speaker 58 What should I be knowing?

Speaker 81 I've been hearing a lot about tortillas, and then tortillas, I guess, are kind of bans or something like that from the game.

Speaker 26 And obviously, I can't wait to get down there.

Speaker 71 I've heard we got some cowboy mentality.

Speaker 201 I am very, very lucky, Pat. I was there in Lubbock for the greatest night in the history of Lubbock, the Michael Crabtree catch against Texas.

Speaker 201 It's probably the best sporting event I've ever been to in my life. The place was absolutely insane.
If you go back, that's, it's Halloween weekend.

Speaker 201 The Batman movie with Heath Ledger had just come out. Everyone's dressed as the Joker.

Speaker 201 I mean, it was nuts. And they, they get the crab tree catch.
They rush the field like three times.

Speaker 201 Like when there's one second left in the game, Texas Tech has to kick off from like their five-yard line. And the field is just absolute madness.

Speaker 201 Like I said, best atmosphere I've seen. So

Speaker 201 supposedly they're already camping out. Be ready for some steaks the size of your head.
Yeah, I'm standing right there, like the 10-yard line. You can see me.

Speaker 43 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 84 Oh, there he is.

Speaker 47 Not the outer guy.

Speaker 33 It's at the outer guy.

Speaker 201 Absolute scene with what was,

Speaker 201 I think McConaughey went up to the press box because the sidelines were so crazy that night. But it was an all-timer.
It is, you want to talk about West Texas, man.

Speaker 201 It's all in Lubbock. And now with the money, I'm hearing Coach Maguire said you won't even recognize it with the facilities and all that.
So

Speaker 201 I can't wait.

Speaker 201 Like I said, steaks for your head, the size of your head. I can't wait to eat one Friday night and Thursday.

Speaker 68 I like big old meat.

Speaker 68 I like big old meat, especially, you know, you get a little cowboy cut, you know, on that thing, a little bit of savory sauce on that thing.

Speaker 70 And you got one big old hat.

Speaker 36 You walk in there, you hang that some bitch on the wall because we like to show respect to the place that we are.

Speaker 45 You got them boots on.

Speaker 97 You got a buckle on.

Speaker 45 And by God, we're tucking that some bitch in, and we're going to button that all the way up.

Speaker 207 Maybe

Speaker 3 pops.

Speaker 228 Definitely got a little bit of inseam on this thing right here.

Speaker 139 Definitely a little inseam.

Speaker 99 We'll pop that thing up too.

Speaker 91 If we want it, I can't wait to get down there.

Speaker 139 You already got the fit picked up in my mind.

Speaker 123 I see what it looks like or could look like.

Speaker 189 Where's some pearl snaps? Some pearl snaps on your shirt.

Speaker 52 So,

Speaker 29 certainly a possibility.

Speaker 116 But on that note, there's a gentleman.

Speaker 159 I don't know if I should say his name or not, but he was some

Speaker 145 town, what's that, like the person who like coordinates what events come into town and stuff like that.

Speaker 219 It's like a town organizer, a town community organizer.

Speaker 32 Something along this, it was a voted in something.

Speaker 168 Okay.

Speaker 81 This guy, whenever we went down to Texas for something, he was there.

Speaker 207 He delivered me a cowboy hat.

Speaker 92 My name is blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 123 They call me the wolf.

Speaker 146 Have you ever seen anything like that?

Speaker 102 They get things done.

Speaker 207 Yada, yada, yada.

Speaker 60 Welcome to Texas.

Speaker 103 Sick cowboy hat, this guy.

Speaker 91 Sick.

Speaker 91 He had boots on, obviously, the entire thing i'm like hell yes i wore that thing on game day that is the i believe it's the it was either the tan one or the black one i forget which one it was but it was the first time i wore one it was it was from this man this man is a texas tech grad so he has reached out and been like hey listen We got ideas here.

Speaker 159 So I think I'm going to be pretty suited and booted.

Speaker 87 We got a lot of belt buckles being offered up.

Speaker 208 Obviously, they earn them down there. I just buy them.

Speaker 36 So it's a little bit random.

Speaker 29 But they are a sweet accessory to add to yourself.

Speaker 32 So I think it should be a pretty country-ass Saturday.

Speaker 80 I mean, they're camping out.

Speaker 180 We talk about them camping out.

Speaker 92 They've got like tents lined up outside the stadium.

Speaker 5 I think for them to get in there, set a Mario Kart outside.

Speaker 47 I mean, they are.

Speaker 162 My kids taking shifts.

Speaker 116 Yeah, garden tents and spots to get in there.

Speaker 53 It's like the place is outrageous.

Speaker 90 And they got a huge one against BYU. I cannot wait to get down there.

Speaker 91 Literally, Graham Harrell, what a stud, AJ.

Speaker 213 I heard you say his name.

Speaker 91 He's awesome.

Speaker 189 Great throw. Great throw.
Great cat. How do he stay in bounds on that?

Speaker 8 It's kind of like Brian Williams from the other day.

Speaker 189 Yeah, very similar. You're right.

Speaker 201 Flake Gideon dropped an interception right before that, too.

Speaker 103 See, Toddy, brother.

Speaker 139 Always come back to bite you.

Speaker 193 Catch the ones they throw it.

Speaker 75 All right, Steve, we appreciate the hell out of you.

Speaker 134 You look awesome.

Speaker 120 Ladies and gentlemen. Appreciate you guys.

Speaker 18 Hey, thank you for wearing a WVU.

Speaker 7 We won.

Speaker 162 Huge win.

Speaker 201 Monster win. Now we're a favorite this week.
Come on.

Speaker 73 Is the hard edge back?

Speaker 3 I think so.

Speaker 136 I'm thinking, yeah.

Speaker 134 Scotty Fox, quarterback.

Speaker 207 Yeah. Damn, right.
I'm thinking we got a guy.

Speaker 92 The Moxie through the roof.

Speaker 34 Hard edge reel.

Speaker 121 And these guys have all had to battle through one training camp with Rich Rod,

Speaker 39 one summer conditioning, okay, and hard times this season.

Speaker 138 So the guys that are still playing and still there, I think, are a bit hardened.

Speaker 142 Like, I think we have kind of maybe got to the point where it's like a culture is close.

Speaker 54 And then obviously we're going to have to add in in the offseason, but it's like, maybe Rich Rodd is able to find a little something out of these boys.

Speaker 117 Yeah.

Speaker 73 Maybe he is able to find a little something out there.

Speaker 127 And in the Big 12 now, I know Texas Tech is obviously going to be good.

Speaker 36 BYU is going to be good forever.

Speaker 64 Utah is the real deal, but

Speaker 91 mountaineers start climbing all of a sudden.

Speaker 91 Now there's a little bit of an East Coast fist fight coming to town.

Speaker 156 You know, coming straight out of the mountains with a hard edge and an attitude, and hopefully a lot more boosters

Speaker 203 going forward.

Speaker 43 We need more.

Speaker 91 Steve, why don't you come give some money to West Virginia Mountaineers?

Speaker 150 Can the Jerry West estate help help out, maybe?

Speaker 116 Yeah. Yeah, I mean...

Speaker 87 I think they do. Maybe they do, though.

Speaker 32 Yeah, but maybe they do. Johnny West, his son, his boy, played basketball.

Speaker 65 Yes.

Speaker 91 He was awesome. Johnny West was a great guy.

Speaker 159 But yeah, if you run into anybody with a lot of money, just ask them if they want to pick up the West Virginia Mountaineers.

Speaker 193 That's what I'm doing right now at this moment.

Speaker 201 Yeah, and we're going to West Texas. There's a lot of oil money down there.

Speaker 201 Maybe they like West Virginia.

Speaker 91 Yeah, I fear, though, yeah, with us being in a Big 12 with them.

Speaker 127 I need to find a natural gas well.

Speaker 105 Exactly.

Speaker 58 I need to maybe get my own

Speaker 36 rig to kind of dive down there and get natural gas.

Speaker 71 Maybe we're the West Virginia gas mountaineers.

Speaker 186 You know what I mean?

Speaker 38 Maybe we get in there.

Speaker 32 I need to talk to Jerry Jones to find that shit.

Speaker 145 You're the man, ladies and gentlemen, Stanford City.

Speaker 18 AJ, I don't know if we've gotten your full take on Jerry Jones thinking he's going to make $100 billion.

Speaker 60 So why?

Speaker 101 What are we talking about football for right now?

Speaker 65 What are we talking about football for?

Speaker 189 What we can't do, like, we have technology now.

Speaker 189 He can still go manage a hundred billion dollar possible i guess well that he's he's trying to pump out and then uh still work on the cowboys look he's still able to make big deals bring some players in that's right he's the one on the phones making all these trades as well he is the general manager for the dallas cowboys and uh we certainly love the way he's just come out and said yeah if it's boring i'll start up just why not yeah if not me then who we're going to talk about the cowboys but there's a hundred billion dollar present value with gas out there That's why I'm talking to you on the telephone rather than trying to fix our defense with Dallas Campbell.

Speaker 117 I woke up this morning. I got sent sent a memo.

Speaker 71 I fucking printed it out.

Speaker 103 I read it.

Speaker 183 He said $100 billion.

Speaker 104 Whose $100 billion is that?

Speaker 91 That could be yours, Mr. Jones.

Speaker 145 All we got to do is get three miles down.

Speaker 104 It's going to be tough to do, but if you give us about a billion dollars, we'll be able to get $100 billion.

Speaker 142 Is this in about a week or about a month?

Speaker 170 Probably like a year, sir.

Speaker 26 Well, let's get some shovels.

Speaker 36 Let's get this thing started.

Speaker 45 And that's Jerry Jones in a nutshell.

Speaker 163 He's always going to go for it. He goes big.

Speaker 26 Him getting Quinn and Williams feels like he says he's going big.

Speaker 46 I got one trade already done.

Speaker 101 That was the Logan Woods I might have another one.

Speaker 106 I might have another one.

Speaker 186 Quinnen comes in there.

Speaker 34 You know, he's always going to be the topic.

Speaker 25 Are they ever going to be able to win?

Speaker 77 And maybe they need to make play for offensive line.

Speaker 92 Because if you have a great offensive line, you have a great football team.

Speaker 134 Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to go in the trenches with AQ Shipley for our top five performing offensive lines out of week nine.

Speaker 105 Who's number five, AQ?

Speaker 140 San Francisco 49ers.

Speaker 117 Wow.

Speaker 140 Yeah, you can't control who you play, obviously.

Speaker 117 Sorry, Bruce.

Speaker 140 They're not very good on defense right now, and everybody's running all over them. Let's look at this backside combo, though.
You got Jake Brendo out with an injury.

Speaker 140 Insert Matt Hennessy, former Atlanta Falcon, gets a climb. Use check out in space.
Trenton Williams doing his thing. Christian McCaffrey runs through a big

Speaker 1 gaping

Speaker 8 hole.

Speaker 139 We love those.

Speaker 140 If you go back to the beginning real quick, Foxy, remember a couple weeks ago we had Ush Check as a tilt. He faked it, went this way.
Now we gain plus one on this toss.

Speaker 140 Crack toss gains leverage on the defense. Love the way they ran that.

Speaker 202 Is Ushcheck still the indicator on where everything's going?

Speaker 80 Is that what you're finding?

Speaker 140 He always is, but the thing that they're doing differently now is now they're starting to send them one way and bring them back.

Speaker 212 So you can't get full tells. It's pretty cool what they're doing.

Speaker 13 Yeah, I fooled me once. Shame on you.

Speaker 17 Fool me every time. That's Uschek football.

Speaker 32 It seems like he is always going right where the play is going, and it's right off his ass, and it always works.

Speaker 80 Congrats to him putting together maybe one of the greatest fullback resumes in the history of ball.

Speaker 22 Who's the number four performing offensive line of week nine?

Speaker 194 Wow, the LA Rams.

Speaker 105 L.A.

Speaker 98 Rams.

Speaker 199 Wow, congrats to them.

Speaker 140 Yeah, they did a great great job. They ran for almost 170 yards this week between Kyron Williams and Blake Corham.
Here, you got Blake Corum. Check this out.

Speaker 140 You call the perfect play into a slanting defense. Everybody slants.
Cool. All you got to do is steal the edge.
Look at Parkinson on DeMario Davis at the second level.

Speaker 140 Might be a hold, but got away from it or got away with it there. And then look at Puka Nakua getting this thing started.
Outside wide zone. I mean, anybody can run through that hole, boys.

Speaker 36 Puka Nakua giving it up for the boys.

Speaker 142 Obviously, love everything about it.

Speaker 26 Sean McVay always has a good run game.

Speaker 92 You know, there was that one year they had a potential ass offensive line.

Speaker 80 They address it and move on.

Speaker 26 He respects the position, I believe.

Speaker 140 The thing I love about what he's done this year, if you go back to 16, 17, when he first got there, he was ahead of the game. He was doing all the shifts and motions.

Speaker 140 They were going jet motion and they were just pushing to spots. This year, they went back to simplicity.

Speaker 140 They are doing every single thing the same way, same formation, and they are downhill at you and running the zone.

Speaker 212 Oh, I just saw the number three performing offensive line out of week nine.

Speaker 164 Holy hell, that's good football.

Speaker 178 That's a good football team.

Speaker 140 Good football team. The Carolina Panthers.

Speaker 98 Wow, congrats you guys in that big win.

Speaker 140 If we can pause this real quick, I'm just going to set this up. This was a pivotal play in the game, right? This is the play that got them into field goal range to win the game.

Speaker 140 And if you look at Bryce Young and you look at Rico Dowdle, they notice that Micah Parsons is standing up, Cooper's standing up, see him talking?

Speaker 140 They're basically bluffing, making it think like, hey, we're going to run a pass right here and you got him in pass protection.

Speaker 140 And then they seal it off, they hand it off, you get man coverage on the back end, brings the safety out of the box, everybody seals it off and you get the huge run right there.

Speaker 167 First down, win the game, set them up, obviously, for the field goal, bluffing the Green Bay Packers defensive front.

Speaker 37 Everybody's saying we're going to go for a pass.

Speaker 107 And instead, Dowdo shows incredible patience.

Speaker 76 AJ, this Dowdo fella, Rico, is awesome to watch.

Speaker 18 Now, he can't be pumping and gyrating after he scores touchdowns.

Speaker 80 He's learned that lesson, I guess.

Speaker 107 We all have that some refs just ain't going to have any pumps.

Speaker 116 I'm a no-pump ref.

Speaker 163 You can have two pumps maybe with other refs.

Speaker 56 You're a no-pump territory with me on the call.

Speaker 38 Rico learned that.

Speaker 180 And also, I think we're all learning.

Speaker 18 He's a dog, AJ Hawk.

Speaker 189 No, he's awesome. And credit to Bryce Young.
Yeah, he is very like demonstrative when he's going over and pointing and bluffing this whole situation.

Speaker 189 So hopefully he continues to do that as the year goes. But yeah, look at that.
Like, all right, come on. I guess he would get you thinking, though, if you're Micah and you're in the team as well.

Speaker 189 Is he messing with me? Like, this is kind of weird. I haven't seen him do this a whole lot.
Like, yeah, that's the thing, man. Bryce Young is growing.

Speaker 32 That's funny to think about like the respect the defense has for you is how they're going to respond to that.

Speaker 43 Okay.

Speaker 18 If they think you would just give that away like that and that loud and that easy, they're like, oh, this guy, what a dip shit.

Speaker 35 And then he can get work.

Speaker 71 If that was somebody else who's like an established, I'm not saying Bryce Young isn't going to become that guy, but if that is like Peyton or Tom or Drew, even who just signed a deal to call games for Fox, Drew Brees is going to be in the booth alongside Adam Amin, friend of the program.

Speaker 24 Good luck to him going in there.

Speaker 17 We all assume that this is the replacement by Fox for the situation that happened with Mark Sanchez in Indianapolis.

Speaker 32 But the fact that Bryce Young, you know, pulls it off at the stage in which he's at, it's almost like the perfect time for it.

Speaker 209 Because I don't think the defense thinks something is up immediately.

Speaker 129 Like if Peyton's doing that, everybody's like, huge.

Speaker 43 Yep.

Speaker 62 Peyton, why would Peyton, there's no way he would be giving away that much.

Speaker 117 Bryce might be a guy, huh?

Speaker 139 He might be. That's next level stuff.
And that situation right there was second and 10 tie ball game less than a minute. So like if you do throw a pass incomplete, now you got third and long.

Speaker 139 And then you maybe give Jordan Love and those guys an opportunity. So that's that's a good ball right there.

Speaker 42 That's winning football right there.

Speaker 40 Hey, Carolina Panthers are good football teams.

Speaker 9 It's a good football team. They are.

Speaker 105 That's a good football team.

Speaker 160 And Bryce Young,

Speaker 160 although he did have the lowest quarterback rating in the NFL this past week, he still got the win, did enough, did what he had to do. They're running it.

Speaker 105 They're holding right there. They're running enough.

Speaker 140 They love Rico Dowdle.

Speaker 140 I've talked to guys in the building down there.

Speaker 212 Love Rico Dowdle.

Speaker 140 By the way, let me say this too.

Speaker 140 They're on their seventh offensive line combination. They continue to get hurt, and they continue to run for 150 yards every day.

Speaker 42 I would love Rico too.

Speaker 198 Who's that O-line coach?

Speaker 189 AQ, do you know?

Speaker 140 Yeah, Harold Goodwin's my guy. He was my O-line coach nine of my 12 years.

Speaker 90 Goody and Joey Gilbert down there, the operation.

Speaker 87 Big deal.

Speaker 2 Great vibes. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 65 Those dudes, great vibes.

Speaker 144 Incredible vibes.

Speaker 17 Now, they've been coaching a long time, especially in the offensive line world.

Speaker 32 But yeah, that's an incredible job.

Speaker 26 And I assume they're potentially the ones that were telling you, we love Rico.

Speaker 117 This guy is

Speaker 40 everybody's life a lot better.

Speaker 133 Special culture they're potentially building.

Speaker 17 Speaking of a special culture, number two performing offensive line of week nine.

Speaker 140 Yeah, the Buffalo Bills, and they were the most physical team in this game. It wasn't even close.
Whenever you line up against the Kansas City Chiefs, you got to beat them up physically.

Speaker 140 They got guys across that can be bullies like Chris Jones. They took it to them, but this is their bread and butter play.

Speaker 140 And let me tell you, Jackson Hawes, their new tight end, and Reggie Gilliam, every bit is important to this offensive line. They love this play.

Speaker 140 Send the tight end back, get the full back up, get the seal by everybody else on the offensive line. Skinny through there.
Unbelievable job.

Speaker 165 It's first and 10 in the second quarter there.

Speaker 19 Got a couple blockers leading the way.

Speaker 142 James Cook cooking for the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 197 I like the physicality of this team.

Speaker 77 I like that they will fight you.

Speaker 80 You know, like the Buffalo Bills defense, what they did to Patrick Mahomes, and then offensive line-wise, we talk about Deion Dawkins, they will.

Speaker 105 They're going to have to, I think.

Speaker 140 Oh, they're physical. Dawkins is unbelievable.
David Edwards, incredible, former Super Bowl winner with the LA Rams. McGovern's incredible at center.

Speaker 140 I mean, obviously, Spencer Brown's an absolute psychopath. He self-described, I think.
We saw that a couple weeks ago, but their tight end and fullback are awesome.

Speaker 140 I mean, they got a really good team. And on the other side of the ball, their defensive line's playing really well, too.

Speaker 140 They got one of their guys back. I don't know how you pronounce his name, H-O-E-C-H-T.

Speaker 117 Is it height? Height, height.

Speaker 140 Okay, so he tears Achilles in his first game back, which big loss for them because he was bringing some juice.

Speaker 142 Yeah, the Buffalo Beals back in it.

Speaker 111 You know, Buff is 6-2 right now.

Speaker 80 Second in the AFC East behind the Patriots were 7-2.

Speaker 112 They've already had their bye week.

Speaker 135 How will they finish?

Speaker 105 And wow,

Speaker 94 this is a massive one.

Speaker 38 The number one offensive line in week nine, the Chicago Bears.

Speaker 89 Congrats to the Bears.

Speaker 177 Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 60 High scoring in a fair.

Speaker 128 The Bears' offensive line had to be great.

Speaker 140 If you turn on their film, there is bodies on the floor on every single play. And I love, you got to give Ryan Poles a lot of credit.
He went out and made some crazy moves this offseason.

Speaker 140 We're going to really bring in a bunch of new offensive linemen. And it has paid off.
If you watch this, check out this. By the way, their left tackle, Braxton Jones, starts the season.

Speaker 140 He He gets injured. They put this guy in, this Canadian, who was on the practice squad, Theo Benedict.
You want to talk about a block? Let's watch this dude.

Speaker 140 Climb on the safety, run his ass to the fucking sideline, bury him in the fucking base.

Speaker 199 That's illegal.

Speaker 124 How good is that?

Speaker 189 That's actually pretty, that's pretty awesome.

Speaker 117 I can't lie.

Speaker 199 Okay, so that's the left tackle.

Speaker 189 I don't want to be that defender, but that's great.

Speaker 100 AJ, so that's the left tackle.

Speaker 140 And I think the boys in the back got another clip of Darnell right. Let's take a look at this.
Here he is to our left playing right tackle against Shamar Stewart, the first round pick.

Speaker 140 Take his ass and bury him on the other side.

Speaker 2 Jeez, Louise, the Bears are burying these Bengals' bodies deep into the

Speaker 99 dirt.

Speaker 8 That's it.

Speaker 194 I thought I was trying to think of another B-word, but they're for real, huh?

Speaker 15 The monsters of the Midway are actually the Monsters of the Midway.

Speaker 140 Who does that remind you of? That's the Detroit Lions offensive line just beating you up. That's what Ben Johnson's bringing to this team.

Speaker 48 Wow, Ben Johnson's culture settling in everywhere.

Speaker 187 Yeah, so you're saying that the offensive line for the Chicago Bears is going to be good for the rest of the year?

Speaker 140 They're healthy. Dahlman, the new center, unbelievable.
The two tackles are playing great. They got Jonah Jackson at right, and obviously Tooney's an absolute monster.
I mean, they look really good.

Speaker 124 Chicago Bears are a real deal, Ty.

Speaker 7 Good luck, Bub.

Speaker 160 Well, and Rutgers legend, Kyle Monungai getting his first start and running for 170 yards, too. I mean, I've been saying it all year.
You hear everything from Ben Johnson, don't love it.

Speaker 139 You watch him play, don't love it.

Speaker 8 But we'll see.

Speaker 160 You know, I mean, you can't play the Bengals every week.

Speaker 84 Jeez.

Speaker 13 Bengal are an interesting spot. They really are.

Speaker 121 They didn't trade Trey.

Speaker 60 They didn't trade. No.

Speaker 117 They didn't do anything. They didn't do anything.

Speaker 91 Bengals said, we're sticking with our guys.

Speaker 171 Yeah, we lack our guys.

Speaker 147 Let's go ahead and try to get this thing figured out.

Speaker 13 What an interesting time for them.

Speaker 92 And what an interesting time for the Chicago Bears.

Speaker 128 They have the number one offensive line in the trenches with A.Q.

Speaker 119 Shipley as the Niners, Rams, Panthers, and the Buffalo Beals are the rest of the top five.

Speaker 75 Congrats to you, boys.

Speaker 125 Way to go. Way to battle.

Speaker 128 If your offensive line's good, your team's good.

Speaker 17 So that's what we've learned from this particular segment.

Speaker 182 So whenever you see the Carolina Panthers show up at three, it's like Carolina Panthers?

Speaker 8 It's good football team. It's a good football team.

Speaker 100 This week.

Speaker 8 Nah, it's a good football team.

Speaker 212 It's every week.

Speaker 213 You're right. It is week to week.
It's week to week.

Speaker 107 Connor maybe thought you forgot about a team, maybe.

Speaker 98 They couldn't run it. They didn't run it very well.

Speaker 161 Yeah, definitely not the Patriots.

Speaker 42 They fucking stink at blocking right now.

Speaker 161 They've given up like eight sacks and, I don't know, maybe 11 sacks actually. They're close last two weeks.

Speaker 212 They're close, though. They are close.

Speaker 139 All right, let's get to some deeper ball in the defensive back world let's go secondary eyes through the eyes of everything db good d bad d with darius j ballo yes sir i talked about it on the offensive side i think they won kind of the trade deadline getting sam dardo and kubiak another weapon with rashish shaheed and we know what this defense has been under mike mcdonald now you get in third and 17 that opens up the full playbook for what we love some exotics here some overload bliss so if you run it back to the beginning before the motion the defense does a great job disguising here, maybe showing some type of single high.

Speaker 139 If you see the safety up top, I believe his last name is Okada.

Speaker 105 Is that how you pronounce it?

Speaker 139 You'll see him up top. Look, has his hips open like he's going to rotate to the middle of the field.
And then post-snap,

Speaker 139 witherspoon, the corner up there to the boundary, you'll see him blitz along with some other guys, and they'll drop out. And this will be a five-man pressure kind of umbrella fire zone.

Speaker 139 So he begins to be the flat defender, continues to sink, watching the quarterback and goes up, climbs the ladder, high points his ball, and makes a phenomenal interception on the sideline got both feet in that what it was just like on the offensive side i mean the buffalo bills offensive line on in the trenches the buffalo bills defense on everything db good d because of how physical they are and obviously making plays here but it were they just clearly the more physical team yes and that's the mindset every week in nfl you want to set the tone you want to be the more physical team especially when it's two teams that you know they're very familiar with each other they're good they know they're probably going to see each other again in the playoffs.

Speaker 139 So you want to kind of set that tone early in the season so that when you see them later, you know what's going to come.

Speaker 139 But you had some young, and they also, I think, lead the league in disguise defenses, and they have some moving parts on the back end.

Speaker 178 See

Speaker 105 Buffalo.

Speaker 139 Buffalo. Yeah, Buffalo.
So, they disguised a lot of their coverages. Now, it can be some holes, and they can be susceptible to some things, but they played very well.

Speaker 139 And you never see Patrick Mahomes under, like, he was like 15 for 34, I believe. You never see that status.

Speaker 47 I think going back to the Texas Tech, that was the first time

Speaker 159 he was in college, I think.

Speaker 139 He was under 50%. And he came into this game where, you know, was he the favorite

Speaker 139 MVP? Like, he short his odds. So it was a great performance by that Buffalo Beals defense.

Speaker 139 Another great performance. This Jacksonville Jaguars defense, second in the NFL with interceptions.
But I want you to watch the bottom of the screen. Cover two, flat defender.

Speaker 139 You got the tight end motioning out. So he's going to widen them and try to run this quick hitch route.
Great job getting his width. Staying down in that Cobra-like demeanor.

Speaker 139 Eyes back to Geno Smith and then making a great break on the ball. This was a low-scoring game, so all of these turnovers, these interceptions matter.

Speaker 139 Great job by the DB getting the ball, finishing the catch once again. Unbelievable play.

Speaker 45 Yeah, Geno Smith, you know, tough with the Raiders.

Speaker 37 Obviously, this game goes to overtime, so every turnover, every play matters.

Speaker 154 The Raiders decide to go for two for the good of the ball, but Jacksonville seemingly like a good football team, too.

Speaker 139 Finding ways to win close games.

Speaker 210 Yeah, and well, their defense, have they been good all year?

Speaker 139 So the numbers, they aren't great numbers-wise, but like splash splash plays, havoc plays, like kind of how the Steelers were early on there getting wins, just creating a bunch of turnovers.

Speaker 139 And last season, they were bottom of the league and creating turnovers. So up until this point, second only behind the Chicago Bears when it comes to intercepting the ball.

Speaker 59 Okay, now it's time for some bad things.

Speaker 98 Some bad deals. Some bad old things.

Speaker 139 And unfortunately, we got to start down in Miami. Lamar Jackson, he returned, and Mark Andrews was eaten now.
We got Mark Andrews down here. He'll be circled.

Speaker 139 And he's going to run, if you pause it here, what's called like a mesh route. So you got two crossers.
You got him coming from the right side.

Speaker 139 And you have Isaiah likely kind of in a similar position on the opposite side of the formation. And they're basically going to try to run their defenders into each other.

Speaker 139 Now, usually one guy should be high, one guy should be low. But Mark Andrews does a great job here of faking the pick and then just climbing and the defender on him.

Speaker 139 If you run it back again, just watch. So our technique here, pause it right here.
So you're coached up to a tailpipe right here. That's what we call it.

Speaker 189 Get in the tailpipe. Get in the tailpipe, D-buck.

Speaker 139 So actually, go ahead, explain to AJ, what the tailpipe ticks.

Speaker 189 I don't think you said getting the tailpipe, exactly what we mean.

Speaker 75 You guys are talking about the big guys' tailpipes.

Speaker 52 So just tell us what that means.

Speaker 189 You get right up in his tailpipe, so then you cannot get picked, and you're directly behind him. So if he runs into something, like you're using his body as protection, you're sticking right on him.

Speaker 189 And then when you clear the pick, you can hopefully undercut him and maybe get a pick or, you know, PBU.

Speaker 75 Okay, so the tailpipe is you're on the bumper.

Speaker 105 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 139 Directly behind him.

Speaker 189 If you're inside of him, you're getting picked.

Speaker 208 You hit somebody, I hit somebody.

Speaker 117 Exactly.

Speaker 139 Directly behind him. But right, I mean, right before contact.
If you run it back one more time from this wide copy, you can probably see it from the replay as well.

Speaker 139 Mark Andrews kind of takes like a little stab with his left foot and then immediately climbs. And I think this was designed because you had a free hitter.

Speaker 139 You had a free hitter in the pocket right up in Lamar Jackson's face. But Jackson continues to kind of sink back and they just make an accurate throw in his back foot.

Speaker 139 But great play design, great execution from Lamar Jackson and Mark Andrews there.

Speaker 213 So much chaos right there.

Speaker 17 So much trust out of Mark Andrews, too.

Speaker 213 Yeah.

Speaker 92 Because he's just running, looking back. There's another guy right in front of him that he could obviously get clipped.
It's just insanity whenever it all times up perfectly.

Speaker 15 And Gumpy, let's talk about the Dolphins' defense here.

Speaker 47 The boys are taking care of each other.

Speaker 73 The Ravens don't even have to do anything.

Speaker 205 Yeah, it was a rough night for Dante Trader. He's a fifth-rounder rookie out of Maryland.
He's been very good all year, though. This was just an off night.
He's also a very good lacrosse player, too.

Speaker 98 Wow.

Speaker 205 He's actually a dog. He's been one of our best secondary players all year.

Speaker 7 Okay, we like him. Good young players.

Speaker 65 You're going to have these for sure.

Speaker 139 Learning moment for sure. And then Puka Nakura, welcome back.
You'll see him.

Speaker 139 One of the things about 12 is hard to double him or even scheme how you're going to take him out of the game because you never know at the snap of the ball where he's going to be. Pause right here.

Speaker 139 So he's kind of like an offset fullback right now. When the ball is snapped, Stafford's going to do a good job, play action, and then this is just an absolute die.

Speaker 139 I think it's pretty good coverage down the field.

Speaker 139 You can't ask for much better coverage, but you couldn't run down there and place this ball between the one and the the two better than Matt Stafford did here from the pocket.

Speaker 139 It's just unbelievable accuracy, timing, and trust from Matt Stafford and Puka Nakul.

Speaker 139 So I wouldn't even, this isn't technically bad defense, but I just had to show Big Ooh some love for being back out there, showing back up.

Speaker 112 Yeah, and obviously hitting the pylon counts as a body part, I do believe.

Speaker 45 So that's to contact.

Speaker 30 Stafford's been doing this for so long, AJ.

Speaker 189 I know. And look at the time he has too.
Credit to this 0-0 line because this is kind of a late developing route downfield like this. But man, you couldn't throw this any better.
This is beautiful.

Speaker 4 How many times you play against Stanford?

Speaker 47 A lot?

Speaker 189 A bunch, yeah. He came in the league in what, 08 or 09?

Speaker 105 09.

Speaker 189 I mean, yeah, I don't know, probably six, six, seven years, twice a year.

Speaker 105 So good, damn.

Speaker 139 He was, you know, he was the number the clear-cut number one pick for a reason. And something that Calvin Johnson, Megatron, said earlier, is like, you know, it's not just fastballs.

Speaker 139 You can see that the game is slowed down a ton from him. He's seen defenses change a bunch.

Speaker 139 You've seen him do it with different offenses, but he's just his his arm talent, like he can make every throw. You see the look-off throws every other week.

Speaker 139 Like, he's playing quarterback at a high, high level right now.

Speaker 129 So, not necessarily bad D, just Great O, but

Speaker 125 figure it out, D.

Speaker 35 Now, do we have another bad D?

Speaker 139 Now, that was Great O and Good D, but this is

Speaker 139 as bad as it gets. 41.

Speaker 105 Oh, is this Hall of Fame now?

Speaker 139 42 right now. This is a Hoff now.

Speaker 98 Wow.

Speaker 179 Bad D, Hoff.

Speaker 139 I mean, anytime you got 83 points with 25 seconds left from the clap was bad deal on both ends. But this is tough.

Speaker 139 I don't know what the Bengals, what the plan was here coverage-wise, like, because you're just, it's 25 seconds left in the game.

Speaker 139 You don't want to give that team the opportunity to get an easy catch and get in the field goal range and set up for a game when a field goal. But they just say, you know what? Fuck it.

Speaker 139 We'll just let the guys score right here. Now, we see this week in and week out.
You got to wrap these guys up. Like, I don't care how long you play.

Speaker 139 You can't tackle anybody in the National Football League with just a shoulder bump. You have to tackle these guys.
You got to wrap them up.

Speaker 139 So for him to catch this ball and have two safeties right here with the opportunity to get him on the ground.

Speaker 207 Man, I didn't even think about it.

Speaker 80 Are they playing no moss here?

Speaker 8 No.

Speaker 65 Are you sure?

Speaker 160 Hey, get the ball back to Joe Flack.

Speaker 143 83 points.

Speaker 197 Let's make sure we get the ball back.

Speaker 36 Is this no Moss?

Speaker 139 This is usually a situation in defenses that I've been on where

Speaker 139 you're going to play some. If you go back to wide copper, you're going to play some type of sticky coverage, maybe even bring some pressure, pressure, but you don't want to give up easy.

Speaker 59 It looks like they're playing no more.

Speaker 139 It looks terrible.

Speaker 194 It looks like they're playing no more.

Speaker 139 It looks terrible, but I mean, hell of a play by Colston Loveland, the rookie, making the biggest play of his career so far. And great job by the Bears sneaking out of there with a win.

Speaker 36 And congrats to Colston Loveland and all the good videos of him coming out after he scores a touchdown.

Speaker 99 You know, it was a nice reminder, like, hey, this dude's awesome.

Speaker 65 He is.

Speaker 139 Were they putting some bad videos out of it?

Speaker 47 Well, just when Tyler Warren was doing his thing,

Speaker 92 all anybody was saying was, remember, this was the second draft of of Tyler.

Speaker 55 I even said it a couple times because, like, we're going to probably take a tight end.

Speaker 62 And it's like, it was chosen for us to take Tyler Warren.

Speaker 91 And it's like, this guy's the best player in football.

Speaker 117 So there's been a lot of that.

Speaker 139 They'll probably be compared to each other.

Speaker 139 I don't like that picture.

Speaker 65 They'll be compared to each other

Speaker 98 for a long, long time.

Speaker 139 But

Speaker 139 Loveland is a talented, very talented kid.

Speaker 65 Oh, is that?

Speaker 189 We just put his mouthpiece in.

Speaker 101 Oh, the ref looks super cool.

Speaker 232 Yeah.

Speaker 202 Yeah, the refs are incredible.

Speaker 218 We need to make sure that we get players.

Speaker 14 We need to get players into that reffing thing.

Speaker 77 We need to make sure we get back into that.

Speaker 108 Now, I don't think the refs were as ass this past weekend as maybe a weekend before that, but I'm certain we could find some cases.

Speaker 80 They just need to not be the story ever, and that's going to be tough, especially whenever humans are involved.

Speaker 41 For sure.

Speaker 18 We appreciate the hell out of you D-Buck.

Speaker 220 You too, Akhuge.

Speaker 100 Thank you, boys. Great to hear.

Speaker 200 Thank you. Great to see you, man.

Speaker 99 Great to see you guys.

Speaker 68 It looks good, good, doesn't he? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 109 AJ, he's getting a little conscious.

Speaker 70 He's getting a little body.

Speaker 189 He looks great. But AQ, I ran into a guy who said he is a, what do you call it, like, wingmaker? What's your thing? What do you do in Arizona for the golf tournament? The big charity deal?

Speaker 43 Thunderbird.

Speaker 219 Thunderbird. He's a Thunderbird with you.

Speaker 189 I forget his name, but yes,

Speaker 199 he's one of those.

Speaker 105 That helps a lot. Memorable guy.

Speaker 98 Michael Phelps.

Speaker 189 I forget. No, it wasn't Michael Phelps.

Speaker 105 Did you call him a Wing Maker?

Speaker 189 I didn't know. I forgot the term of what they called that thing.

Speaker 15 A Thunderbird, but in your head, it it was Wing Maker.

Speaker 107 So I guess bird, maybe?

Speaker 189 I knew I probably wasn't right, but I thought that would jog his memory to what I was speaking of.

Speaker 105 And we got there.

Speaker 122 We got there immediately.

Speaker 106 But just the fact that your brain remembered it as Wind Maker.

Speaker 189 Wing, wing, W-I-N-G, Wing Maker.

Speaker 189 What is the real term?

Speaker 44 Thunderbird.

Speaker 189 I mean, Thunderbirds, Wing, W-I-N-G, like a wing of a bird.

Speaker 199 It's kind of close. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 55 Yeah. That is my exact point.

Speaker 39 The fact that your brain remembered it as Wing Maker and its Thunderbird is a beautiful depiction of how that thing works up there.

Speaker 66 You, Thunderbirds, save the city, though.

Speaker 37 Thank you for your service to Arizona.

Speaker 105 Thank you.

Speaker 140 We donated over $20 million back to Phoenix this year.

Speaker 65 Thank you.

Speaker 199 One year?

Speaker 43 One year.

Speaker 139 Speaking of wings, how big were those wings on a heavily hulk? I hate that I wasn't able to be here.

Speaker 221 I had so many questions. It was so good.

Speaker 117 Those things are platinum, bro.

Speaker 65 How many inches?

Speaker 139 On TV, how were they a real, real...

Speaker 160 They're 22 inches, apparently. 22 inches for his 22-inch biceps, obviously.

Speaker 7 Yeah, we looked up the average

Speaker 154 biceps, pythons, and boy, those 22-23-inch pythons were gigantic at the time.

Speaker 160 About two times the size of the average human.

Speaker 139 Wow.

Speaker 173 You know, the untrained male, if you will.

Speaker 80 Did you expect heavenly Hulkster to kind of be the breaking news guy for heaven just as a whole?

Speaker 116 Like, just all the names that heavenly hulks are.

Speaker 65 Yeah,

Speaker 139 just tossing it back and forth with Jackie Robinson. That was, you know, that was awesome.
Number one, obviously.

Speaker 139 Honestly, I was surprised to see him with the wings, you know, and the halo. I thought that took more time, but, you know,

Speaker 139 was it St. Peter? St.

Speaker 65 Peter. St.
Peter's.

Speaker 171 Yeah. Big top Hoke Maniac, I guess.

Speaker 139 Yeah, I mean, I guess I'm not shocked. But yeah,

Speaker 139 that was awesome to watch.

Speaker 140 He even predicted the game.

Speaker 161 That was the coolest part for me. I was watching the baseball game, and I was like, well,

Speaker 8 I know Will Smith.

Speaker 161 Like, why are we even watching this?

Speaker 164 We already know. Yeah, game.

Speaker 97 World Series winning home run, Will Smith, just like Heavenly Hawkster said.

Speaker 210 I I mean, it was pretty good.

Speaker 187 Honestly, there's a chance Heavenly Hulkster.

Speaker 160 You might see him again. I don't know.

Speaker 68 Feels like we might have threaded the needle here to find

Speaker 69 to kind of figure this whole thing out.

Speaker 49 What a run.

Speaker 165 I did see Real American Beer commented underneath.

Speaker 64 It was like, hell yeah.

Speaker 177 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 129 He is. He made it.

Speaker 99 All right.

Speaker 65 Let's get the hell out of here.

Speaker 147 It's a nice Wednesday. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's a great Wednesday, though. It's like hot.
Is it hot there? It's warm.

Speaker 117 Is it? I don't know.

Speaker 171 Unseasonably warm.

Speaker 105 That's warm.

Speaker 189 It's like high 50s, I think.

Speaker 8 Yeah, 60.

Speaker 168 Beautiful. 64.

Speaker 105 Boom. That's beautiful.

Speaker 91 Oh, so we gotta sit outside right now, probably.

Speaker 43 Boom.

Speaker 99 Teebo?

Speaker 161 Be careful.

Speaker 229 Say, Tebow?

Speaker 221 There are a lot of bugs in there. I know.

Speaker 70 I figured there might be.

Speaker 76 There's actually a wasp in

Speaker 94 somebody who got stung by a wasp.

Speaker 91 I had no idea that still happened in November.

Speaker 170 Isn't that crazy? Yeah.

Speaker 62 That's still taking place. Did you know those exist still?

Speaker 189 I did not. I thought, yeah, when do they usually die off or take on?

Speaker 105 Get out of here. No way.

Speaker 91 november they still survive i had no idea i seen one yesterday and then that some bitch came back and did a sneak attack on somebody and all of a sudden oh my gosh what was that stung in the finger wasp or was a wasp wasp yeah is there a wasp nest in there

Speaker 44 spray that sucker no i think this was just a solo act solo yeah i think the wasp was all by itself hopefully yeah the nest is in the walls most likely yeah usually most worker and male wasps they die in the fall as temperatures drop but the queen wasps well they survive the winter by hibernating and starting new colonies in the spring wasps also die from old age you know these fuckers live to 12 to 22 days what a waste of a life that's it no that's a worker wasp

Speaker 204 that i guess it's two different without because the worker wasp is the dog of the wasps plus how long is a day in wasp years yeah it's a good point

Speaker 11 starvation

Speaker 91 predation or environmental hazards like pesticides i'll tell you what the pesticides really flipped all these fuckers on their head yeah you think they tell each other Like, hey, yo, watch this shit.

Speaker 29 Go over there.

Speaker 105 Do you think, like, what do you think?

Speaker 98 Yeah.

Speaker 65 Definitely. I don't think so.

Speaker 204 Natural selection.

Speaker 157 Really?

Speaker 200 How about birds? Don't you think birds have gotten dumber?

Speaker 232 Well,

Speaker 100 what's that?

Speaker 189 I know. I mean, I would assume Conman is still on the bird train.

Speaker 139 Technology has only gotten better, so I assume birds have only gotten smarter.

Speaker 161 Saw a lot of birds on, you know.

Speaker 150 Telephone poles and wires on my drive home yesterday.

Speaker 231 An unruly amount.

Speaker 204 So much I almost got out of my car and took a photo charging up I don't know you think we're all strapped in I mean I'm not kidding there was like 2,000 birds within a half mile you think there was a surge a power surge

Speaker 53 I just I just what's it about I don't know you tell me what these birds they're flocking huh do birds like to flock is that what they like to do that's that's convenient that's convenient they all like to just stand on power cables

Speaker 189 fascinating i mean you've been seeing them flying in circles like together it's crazy yeah the birds I'm just talking about birds nosediving into cars.

Speaker 65 Remember, I don't know if they

Speaker 42 always used to do that.

Speaker 160 They're just flying into my windows like all the time.

Speaker 116 All the time.

Speaker 102 I'm like, how stupid are these fuckers?

Speaker 139 I know.

Speaker 189 You got clean windows. You got clean windows.

Speaker 18 Yeah, I guess, but also, I think maybe even dirty windows, these things will fly.

Speaker 103 They say they got bird brains, you know, that's obviously not a good thing.

Speaker 174 But shouldn't these things be talking to each other?

Speaker 147 Like, hey, don't fly into houses, don't fly into cars and stuff.

Speaker 173 We're talking high speeds.

Speaker 160 These things are dead. I mean, they're hitting their heads,

Speaker 160 breaking their necks, exploding their skulls, and then falling, you know,

Speaker 1 blood everywhere.

Speaker 189 Maybe it's on purpose. Maybe they want to end it.
They don't want to get eaten by a bigger bird.

Speaker 81 Well, then maybe they need a little therapy bird somewhere to get out there and have them chirp in a different tune.

Speaker 8 Legit.

Speaker 135 You know, we need to have the, we got to figure it out.

Speaker 116 Big bird.

Speaker 62 I don't like having to explain, Mackenzie.

Speaker 91 This bird, yeah, it was not supposed to fly into this thing. It's dead.
Yeah.

Speaker 139 Oh, didn't an owl just fly into Shodi's house?

Speaker 199 He did. Oh, yeah, I saw them.

Speaker 189 He's staying in the condo, he said.

Speaker 98 Hey, staircase, bro.

Speaker 116 Staircase.

Speaker 160 Yeah, owls are mean sons of bitches. You cannot

Speaker 117 get things in your house.

Speaker 118 You remember the staircase?

Speaker 189 That was his defense, right?

Speaker 203 Yeah. Yeah, and

Speaker 192 I'll tell you what.

Speaker 189 That guy had, he led a, he led a colorful life, as you find in that documentary.

Speaker 159 Yes, you do.

Speaker 8 We had the lawyer on. Yeah.

Speaker 189 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 65 Do you remember this? No.

Speaker 169 Have you ever seen the staircase? No.

Speaker 127 Guy in North Carolina.

Speaker 36 Wife ends up dead in his house.

Speaker 174 He's the only one there.

Speaker 62 Obviously, he gets accused of it.

Speaker 98 There's a lot of shenanigans, a lot of shenanigans in this entire thing.

Speaker 147 It's crime, doc.

Speaker 99 Inevitably, his defense was that an owl flew in, grabbed her by her skull, and she tripped down a staircase and died.

Speaker 95 That was his defense.

Speaker 139 I mean, it was a lawyer. Did he defend?

Speaker 117 I mean, the lawyer defended him, yeah, and said this is

Speaker 89 he was the one.

Speaker 91 He was the one telling the entire story about how this was possible because these owls are fucking aggressive.

Speaker 184 Yeah, which is what skulls?

Speaker 185 I think so, yeah.

Speaker 11 If my memory serves me accurately, grabbed her hair skull, and then she tripped down staircase because of it or something.

Speaker 168 Wow. I'm going to watch this on the flight home.

Speaker 1 Hell of a story.

Speaker 8 It's a good dog.

Speaker 189 I think it's like three or four part series.

Speaker 80 Yeah, it was during the Tiger King had a run, then this had a run, then a staircase had a run.

Speaker 103 It was like one of those.

Speaker 189 Takes a few turns, AQ, that you might not be expecting.

Speaker 43 Perfect.

Speaker 117 Can't question what I need. Is he free?

Speaker 105 I don't want to spoil it. No, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Can't spoil it. Can't spoil it.
All right.

Speaker 91 Just know that the lawyer that is representing him is the star of the show.

Speaker 139 He's pretty good. And he came with a program?

Speaker 141 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 157 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 230 Reached out. What's name?

Speaker 204 Oh, I see HBO Verde.

Speaker 204 They made a show out of it on it.

Speaker 211 That's a scripted one.

Speaker 203 Oh, okay.

Speaker 204 Yeah, so that's like the TV show. They're talking about the documentary on Netflix.

Speaker 117 I believe.

Speaker 185 Yeah, Netflix.

Speaker 204 But yeah, this thing did two different shows. That's when you know.

Speaker 17 That's when you know it's a good story.

Speaker 129 And these owls, these things, watch your fucking move.

Speaker 43 If you hear a whoo, whoo, whoo,

Speaker 160 you're dead. They take animals too.

Speaker 105 It's not a who, it's a what.

Speaker 168 What's that?

Speaker 140 They take animals, too. Yeah.
They always say, hey, make sure your cats are locked up.

Speaker 99 Don't let them out back or they're going to just disappear from an owl.

Speaker 91 Because they'll come down.

Speaker 116 See you later.

Speaker 87 They do a little owl talking.

Speaker 8 These are heads.

Speaker 43 Turn all the way.

Speaker 103 The way they blink is weird. You learn a lot about owls.

Speaker 204 300 degrees, I believe.

Speaker 97 Almost all the way.

Speaker 77 Like these PTZs.

Speaker 99 Yeah. They get caught right at the end.

Speaker 43 All right. Wow.

Speaker 129 Pretty good show today. Staircase is worth it.

Speaker 212 It is.

Speaker 172 I'm on it.

Speaker 99 Yeah. I'm watching it today, too.

Speaker 65 What is the lawyer's name? David?

Speaker 8 David Rudolph.

Speaker 99 There it is. David Rudolph.

Speaker 183 What year was that?

Speaker 160 That had to have been.

Speaker 171 Man, was that before COVID? That might have been before.

Speaker 172 I think it was before COVID.

Speaker 105 I think it was 19. It was just great access.

Speaker 219 They were everywhere.

Speaker 189 Cameras were everywhere. And all the meetings he was having in the jail.

Speaker 189 Cameras were allowed everywhere.

Speaker 7 Hey, David Rudolph.

Speaker 45 Pretty good juice.

Speaker 174 We remembered your name since 2019.

Speaker 133 That's pretty good a little.

Speaker 157 That's a long time.

Speaker 91 You wait till you watch it.

Speaker 64 You'll be like, yeah, this guy is the guy.

Speaker 91 He's the guy. If I ever have anything, this is the guy I would like to call this guy.
Okay. He's smooth talker, this guy.
He's got ideas, but also a lot of personality, a lot of charisma, a lot of

Speaker 91 that stuff.

Speaker 91 It's what you need in a store.

Speaker 3 AQ, you want to try to throw a football into a hoop or what?

Speaker 100 Sure.

Speaker 119 You know, Penn State doesn't have a head coach yet.

Speaker 154 But maybe if you make this football into a hoop, they'll hire a coach and 25 random people will win $500.

Speaker 105 Boom.

Speaker 45 AQ, all you got to do is do better than you've done over the last few weeks and you just got to put this ball, baby Duke, 2.0, into that hoop right over there.

Speaker 83 Now, there's steel net, you know, obviously Chainlink net out there.

Speaker 53 So if it goes through, it's going to sound cool.

Speaker 170 But maybe you should try to put a little bit of orkle in this one.

Speaker 129 You've been kind of attacking it.

Speaker 53 Ty, do you have anything to say to AQ before he attempts the impossible?

Speaker 160 I do. Stop messing around, AQ.
Put this thing in the bucket, and then, you know, celebrate as Billy Napier, his name, the new head coach of Penn State.

Speaker 131 That's possible.

Speaker 81 I mean, who knows right now with the coaching options that are out there?

Speaker 49 D-Butt has some words of encouragement for you, AQ.

Speaker 139 Just step into it, let it rip. You saw Jacoby Brissett do it.
Just do exactly what Jacoby did.

Speaker 122 AJ Hawks said, you know what, AQ?

Speaker 36 Maybe you do look like Jacoby Brissett.

Speaker 14 Maybe you are able to make it.

Speaker 163 And his final note to you before you attempt the impossible, AQ, is this.

Speaker 189 Yeah, AQ, I think you remember, isn't it AQ who does very well when he gets a snap and he kind of takes a drop, like not when you're static. You need to be moving because you're an athlete.

Speaker 189 We know that. We used to drop step dunk on old buddy, whatever his name was back in high school.

Speaker 98 He didn't dunk on Nate Harton.

Speaker 98 He did. He did not dunk on Date Hart.

Speaker 65 He didn't dunk on

Speaker 36 Big boned and big bellied.

Speaker 157 That too.

Speaker 103 He's like Chuck. Oh, here we go.

Speaker 73 25 people, $500.

Speaker 99 All he's got to do is make sure.

Speaker 91 Give a cadence to him.

Speaker 36 Yes. Oh, no cadence.
Silent count.

Speaker 94 Short drop back.

Speaker 137 Pocket's going to collapse for sure.

Speaker 121 Misses the backboard.

Speaker 212 Bounce ball, bonus ball, bounce ball.

Speaker 9 Ball's gone.

Speaker 97 Floor's lava. There's more balls here.

Speaker 99 Don't die, don't die.

Speaker 105 Okay.

Speaker 189 You don't have the runners on.

Speaker 26 Ladies and gentlemen, A.Q.

Speaker 64 Shipley, a Super Bowl champion, player coach for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, formerly of the Arizona Cardinals as well, the Indianapolis Colts, the Baltimore Ravens, the Pittsburgh Steelers, and the Philadelphia Eagles, will attempt the impossible as Boston Connor gives him a message of positivity.

Speaker 204 Remember when you would make your shots with the basketball? You would just pick the ball up and throw it, but every time you lined it up, it would be the worst fucking shot imaginable.

Speaker 161 Just, yeah, just lean back and fucking spin that.

Speaker 147 Now, now that you're thinking about not thinking about it, why don't we think about making that shot?

Speaker 218 25 people, $500, and maybe a hiring at Penn State for the good of the people.

Speaker 145 Fadeaway wanted a little sauce on that.

Speaker 162 It was good, good distance.

Speaker 12 Hey, you're in Saucer City.

Speaker 117 Add a little sauce. That's right.

Speaker 3 Awesome sauce.

Speaker 129 What's that, D-But, you think he's trying to miss?

Speaker 139 I don't know.

Speaker 139 That wasn't even close.

Speaker 91 I mean, you're giving away a lot of money on the weekends.

Speaker 21 Okay, see, this is what we need integrity in the games.

Speaker 90 I'm trying.

Speaker 66 We already got a little controversy brewing with U-ball.

Speaker 87 Sure.

Speaker 24 Okay, maybe people mailing it in when they have certain teammates so they don't have to team with the person.

Speaker 191 Yeah, that's already

Speaker 191 doing that.

Speaker 206 I'm not saying it is.

Speaker 36 We all saw it. We don't like it.

Speaker 97 This can't become what it is.

Speaker 61 Guy throwing it through the backboards.

Speaker 193 Like, you're not even trying to make it.

Speaker 175 You're not, we know you're not even.

Speaker 189 You got to lift your teammate up. You got to lift him up.

Speaker 210 And then accidentally not jumping the tip.

Speaker 26 Oh, missed it.

Speaker 192 Can't have it.

Speaker 65 Not in U-ball.

Speaker 145 We'll sort that out.

Speaker 18 Just like Dana White said, we're going to the FBI.

Speaker 87 Yep.

Speaker 187 Did you see his answer, his response, AJ?

Speaker 189 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 94 He was trying to set the, hey, enough with this shit.

Speaker 109 This cannot become what we are.

Speaker 60 Because he understands, as a man who is running the sports league, anytime integrity is questioned to sports league, you potentially lose sports league, okay, completely.

Speaker 60 Like, if people don't think it's fair competition, people don't aren't interested, let alone the gambling side of it, okay?

Speaker 159 That's a whole nother animal.

Speaker 97 But whatever, fans and people on teams, everything.

Speaker 34 It's just like you, you potentially lose everything.

Speaker 17 And as soon as Dana hears about this, and this becomes a big storyline, I appreciate him saying that they were told there were some abnormal betting patterns on this one particular fight by IC360, which is their independent consultant for gambling, tracking bets that he employs for the UFC to track to make sure there isn't any fuckery, basically, is what he said.

Speaker 142 So then he calls and says to the camp, like, hey, we're hearing about this.

Speaker 17 What's going on?

Speaker 127 Fighter says, nope, we're not doing any of that.

Speaker 18 I can't wait to win.

Speaker 22 Then first round loss, rear naked choke with the way it looks.

Speaker 132 Dana says he calls the FBI immediately and says, hey, we were told that this was potentially a thing.

Speaker 30 We reach out, we talked to them. They said, absolutely not.

Speaker 81 We told them we heard about it.

Speaker 32 This happens. We think you should look into it.

Speaker 25 And then he said he talked to Cash, and then an entire fleet of FBI people were in his office chatting about it.

Speaker 46 So Dana White is coming out very loudly about like, hey, this fucking is not happening here.

Speaker 30 And if you want to roll the dice, there's a chance like actual jail time, hard time, this is going to ruin your life.

Speaker 137 So I think he's trying to play defense here for future situations as well as settle this particular one because he knows what's at stake here, AJ.

Speaker 189 Well, yeah, you can't let it linger. Like the longer you don't address it or you don't say much about it, like people just run with it, I think.

Speaker 189 And so the fact that he's trying to jump and get ahead of it, yeah, he knows.

Speaker 189 Like that's one of the only things I feel like that can bring huge franchise like that down, or at least take huge losses if people truly think this isn't legit.

Speaker 189 Like they're not, they're all manipulating everything.

Speaker 107 Yeah, it's not a good vibe that could potentially be in there.

Speaker 45 So he's trying to cut it off.

Speaker 147 Now,

Speaker 26 people say, well, you like the game all the time.

Speaker 89 It's different.

Speaker 51 Okay.

Speaker 107 And I know everybody like throws that in there together. It's like, got to keep that separated.

Speaker 45 It has to be for the good of sport.

Speaker 17 And I know it's easily accessible now for the common person, but the people that are performing the act just can't do it for good of everything.

Speaker 230 Literally can't happen.

Speaker 116 Literally can't happen. Can't hit up.
Can't happen.

Speaker 91 Feels like there's a chance it happens, which I'm starting to worry about you, ball, too. You got guys throwing games.

Speaker 161 Kidding.

Speaker 139 Yeah, with the rat fuck insider. I'm sure they'll leak it out who's doing what.

Speaker 122 Is it the insider we hate or the rats?

Speaker 198 He'll probably have the information wrong, too.

Speaker 85 What do you mean?

Speaker 212 Aren't they kind of one or the same?

Speaker 206 Well, I definitely think that.

Speaker 204 Schultz and Shefty ain't the same, bro.

Speaker 17 Well, I think there's definitely levels to insider-ness, and the U-ball insider seemingly has a monopoly on the entire thing.

Speaker 8 He does.

Speaker 183 True.

Speaker 64 He's really the only insider.

Speaker 26 But is he the problem or the person that's giving him the information?

Speaker 147 That's kind of the question.

Speaker 94 It's Dog Chase Tail here.

Speaker 99 You know, Dog Chase Tail.

Speaker 212 Warren Wong is the problem.

Speaker 43 Still.

Speaker 161 Oh, yeah, still. Still the problem.

Speaker 26 Tour tickets available, I think, coming up very soon.

Speaker 62 Coming to Indianapolis two nights.

Speaker 198 They went on

Speaker 198 the two nights. Friday night went on sale today.

Speaker 198 My wife got in the queue. She was number 230,000 in the queue to get tickets for Friday night at Morgan Wall.

Speaker 168 I don't think we're going to make it.

Speaker 45 Yeah, it sounds like you're going to have to hope and a prayer that entire thing there, but.

Speaker 22 Hope and a prayer is not what the insider is operating off of a new ball.

Speaker 26 He's going off his facts, I do believe.

Speaker 206 Tone, you said that he's getting facts wrong.

Speaker 186 What do you mean by that?

Speaker 198 I can't remember what the report was. I think it was that Bone left me for AQ to join the Fat Souls team or whatever.

Speaker 198 I was never partners with Bone. I was partners with AQ.
So actually, AQ was the backstabber in this situation.

Speaker 140 I don't know why you threw Fatso in. It doesn't say that in the tweet at all.

Speaker 57 I didn't come up with a team name, you guys did.

Speaker 116 Look at the graph.

Speaker 117 That looks pretty official.

Speaker 14 Yeah, and AQ's in there.

Speaker 18 AQ. You're part of the problem, bro.

Speaker 98 All right, old story.

Speaker 140 That's pretty good technique right there.

Speaker 8 You see that?

Speaker 117 Looks like it's on the line.

Speaker 65 No, it's behind.

Speaker 89 He's got those shoes.

Speaker 198 You guys can play together. I found a different partner.

Speaker 65 A better partner.

Speaker 59 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 30 So you were frustrated.

Speaker 179 Okay, so insider got it right again.

Speaker 47 All right, why don't you come out here, Tone? Why don't you come out here, Tone?

Speaker 91 I didn't like the thought of people trying to lose so they didn't have to team up with somebody again.

Speaker 208 I'll tell you what, yesterday Foxy and I had another day of Foxy and I U-Ball, and there was a team of D-Butt and Tone that were together.

Speaker 40 I'll tell you what, that sparked a little something in us knowing that we could maybe lose the title of these boys.

Speaker 217 100%. We had to lock in and ended up being the shortest game in U-ball history, which goes to both teams because a lot of shots were made there.

Speaker 230 That's right.

Speaker 217 Three and a half minutes.

Speaker 138 We had four or six in the first top of the first, Foxy and I.

Speaker 98 You guys are on fire. You guys are on fire.

Speaker 139 Foxy fought through some adversity, too.

Speaker 56 Yeah, he pulled his calf.

Speaker 65 Dude, yeah. What the

Speaker 206 Foxy pulled his calf.

Speaker 217 My calf started cramping up in the middle of the game.

Speaker 15 Yeah, he almost had an Achilles here in U-ball.

Speaker 215 That's a real deal. The insider would have gotten numbers

Speaker 60 if he would have been reporting that.

Speaker 36 Bruce, they're kind of questioning everything about what you do for U-Ball, brother.

Speaker 116 I don't like it at all.

Speaker 205 It's all right. You know, we'll just keep our nose to the ground looking for any stories.

Speaker 235 There was also a

Speaker 235 close call I've been waiting to update the people on

Speaker 235 where there was a, I guess, a vicious kick volley, you would describe that almost decapitated Ty Schmidt.

Speaker 81 Yeah, and we will certainly have to put that story out today.

Speaker 26 You can follow along at Bruce Brown, the official insider for U-Ball.

Speaker 30 And there was one of the funniest situations that I've ever been a part of.

Speaker 80 And I'll tell you what, people are getting after it and U-Ball trying to win some games.

Speaker 121 And all we're trying to do is celebrate the hell out of sports.

Speaker 13 Be your friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change your life.
We're in this thing together.

Speaker 53 AQ, anything to say here before we get out of here?

Speaker 140 Full steam ahead in Arizona, boys. We know our guy for the next couple of weeks at least.
Let's go.

Speaker 11 Okay, that's Arizona Cardinals Super fan.

Speaker 10 And I'll tell our commentator A.Q.

Speaker 133 Shipley talking about Jacoby Brissette being the starting quarterback for the Arizona Cardinals who are currently two and seven three and six something like three and six let's go three and six but have it all in front of them

Speaker 142 just like everybody does let's never forget that everything's always in front of us because it has to be team on me team on three one two three

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