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Speaker 1 Hello beautiful people and welcome to our spooky humble abode, the Thunderbell on this field good. Happy Halloween Friday, October 31st, 2025.
This program begins now.

Speaker 1 It is magical and obviously last night, week nine of the NFL season kicked off in a beautiful fashion with Lamar Jackson going absolutely ape shit in his return to football this season and also his return back home.

Speaker 1 He throws for four touchdowns. Now, my name is Peter Neverville.
okay, and I've been covering sports longer than you, so I know sports longer than you.

Speaker 1 I am an old sports media man, and what I see from Lamar Jackson is holy shit good. This type of guy has the opportunity to not only be an incredible leader.

Speaker 1 He said, get those ping-pong tables and cornhole boards out of our locker room, but also he has the ability to spin that thing. And if you need him to run, obviously he's going to be faster than you.

Speaker 1 So whenever you think about Lamar Jackson, you're talking Mount Rushmore type guy. And if you disagree with me, you're wrong.

Speaker 1 I don't ever think I've ever heard an argument against mine that I've ever liked, and that's certainly going to be one that you can classify under. I hate it.

Speaker 1 If you say Lamar Jackson isn't a Mount Rushmore type player. Now, that was on display while the other side of the field was looking like ash cheeks.
Okay.

Speaker 1 And whenever you talk about old ash cheeks of a team, you start to talk about teams that maybe win by 30 against a team. And then the next week, just a few days later, get absolutely decimated.

Speaker 1 Now, the stats in the first half weren't bad, but there is a fourth and two here in clear field goal territory. Now, Kick your head missed the field goal already at that point.

Speaker 1 But fourth and two, let's go to our best play. You got it.
What is it? Obviously, fade to the running back. Okay, so that is something that nobody really enjoyed.

Speaker 1 I think a lot of people potentially turned the game off at this point. Now, the Dolphins were moving down the field.
They get to that position. They get no points.

Speaker 1 Is there going to be something that maybe happens with the Miami Dolphins? Yes. Chris Greer, general manager and I believe president of football operations down there.

Speaker 1 A lot of power at the Miami Dolphins.

Speaker 1 He's gone. He's been there since 2016, I do believe.
So almost 10 years of service with the Miami Dolphins. And he has since been relieved of his duties after last evening.

Speaker 1 Now, Now, I think he should have played a little better last night. Yep.

Speaker 1 I think he should have done a little bit better.

Speaker 1 When you think about Chris Career football, you don't necessarily say like, hey, the team's going to be what we think. But this guy went all in with Tyreek Hill.

Speaker 1 Okay, this guy went all in with McDaniel. This guy went all in with Tua.
This guy had a lot of things happen under

Speaker 1 his leadership, but there was a time where we all thought maybe they were going to be great. There was a time they scored 70 against the Denver Broncos defense.

Speaker 1 There was a time where McDaniel was super cool. Remember, those are good times.
Oh, yeah. And now last night, all we watched was Stephen Ross with binoculars.

Speaker 1 Okay, looking down and going, what the hell is going on out here? We stink. And then he turned those binoculars right over to the suite next to him where that general manager was.

Speaker 1 Why is this happening? And then he goes back here, and then he goes over here. He goes, we need to get this guy the hell out of here.

Speaker 1 So whenever you think about last night's game, it's a team that does not have a winning season in the Baltimore Ravens, potentially turning it around completely and looking like the team that

Speaker 1 we thought they could be, Defensively getting some stops. Defensively getting some stops.
Defense making some plays. Couple turnovers.
Okay, now we're having a good time.

Speaker 1 Congratulations to the Baltimore Ravens and to the sports books who predicted that Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens were going to return whenever he was healthy enough to play.

Speaker 1 Let's go to the talks table for their thoughts. We have Harry

Speaker 1 Potter and Heavenly Hulkster.

Speaker 1 Heavenly Hulkster, thank you so much for making an appearance. I hope you got a chance to experience all the love that was sent your way when you passed away.

Speaker 1 And I hope you got a chance to watch that game last night, Heavenly Hulkster. What were your thoughts from above? Well, dude, I'd just like to say great being back.

Speaker 1 Obviously, you said, you know, I did feel a lot of love. There are also a lot of people out there who maybe, you know, were pissed on the Hulkster when he passed away.

Speaker 1 But, well and behold, you see the Angels wigs. You see the halo.
Turns out St. Peter is one of the biggest Hulkomaniacs of all time.

Speaker 1 I guess we should have kind of put two and two together once we we saw the halo and everything. Congrats.
I guess that's kind of the big question whenever you're on Earth. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 I go up there and you know, I'm thinking, hey, am I going to be waiting around? You know,

Speaker 1 what's the deal? Boom. St.
Peter immediately.

Speaker 1 I see a real American. That really was.
And he's just drilled me with questions about WrestleMania 3. How'd you body slave Andre, dude? How'd you do it, dude?

Speaker 1 We talked for about 50 minutes, and then he said, you know what, Hulkster? I got something for you. And boom, look at these beauties.

Speaker 1 You usually got to wait about 150 years living beyond the Pearly Gates to get a big pair of angels' wings like these. St.
Peter said,

Speaker 1 Those are a big pair because you're obviously huge. Those are a big pair of wings.
Big dude, exactly.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, you know, the Hulkster's doing pretty damn good being at the big Hogan hangout in the sky. And I would say, you know, we got every single football game on the TV.

Speaker 1 My big takeaway from last night is: boy, the dolphins fucking suck.

Speaker 1 Two of sticks. Are you allowed to say that in heaven? I didn't know.
That's kind of the thing, dude. You can kind of do whatever you want up here.

Speaker 1 I'm certified platinum when I got these wigs and this halo, brother.

Speaker 1 Usually, you know, obviously, there are situations where, as I was going to say, I better take it easy because the halo started to slip a little bit. Exactly.
You said you dropped an F-ball. Did I?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Well, I apologize, dude.

Speaker 1 I'm just in a great mood, you know.

Speaker 1 Obviously, being, you know, around Clearwater Beach, the Dolphins are my team, one of my teams. And it's time to just rebuild the whole thing.
So, yeah, it was an okay game, but you know this, dude.

Speaker 1 When you're in Hogan's Hangout, especially the one beyond the Pearly Gates, once this game got poopy, like you mentioned,

Speaker 1 see, I got Meatloaf coming in. I got Ozzy Osborne coming in.
You think I wouldn't rather listen to those guys,

Speaker 1 Tred, on some actions? That's huge news. Sorry, I apologize.
Some of this stuff may seem to be breaking news. Just another Monday Night Hogues hang out of the sky for me, dude.

Speaker 1 Great football game, though. It was a great football game for the Baltimore Ravens.
Lamar Jackson is back.

Speaker 1 Harry Potter, your thoughts on the game last night and how it compares to, I guess, what's the sport?

Speaker 1 Quidditch. Yeah, Quidditch.
All I can really think is that Lamar Jackson would have been wonderful in the Quidditch Broom.

Speaker 1 Truly,

Speaker 1 I'm a little emotional emotional just being next to the hoaxer. I'm so happy to see him.
I can't believe that he's in heaven and he got his wings on.

Speaker 1 Harry, remind me, because I'm a huge fan of what you do. The wizardry stuff you do.
Thank you. So cool.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 I mostly watch sports more than you, and I know more than you about it because of that.

Speaker 1 So I certainly have that particular angle about myself. But

Speaker 1 for some of us that maybe haven't seen a lot of Harry Potter, what country does Harry Potter hail from?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 I'm a bit of a British bloke.

Speaker 1 I'm

Speaker 1 kind of trying to find the accent here.

Speaker 1 Going into Luke Littler a little bit, trying to kind of think of the Scousers a little bit. Oh, okay, Liverpool.
Yes, an English lad, if you will, but

Speaker 1 I fancy the football accent. What is your move? You're a wizard, you're a wizard.
Like what Lamar Jackson's able to do outside the game. Exactly.
I'm just like Lamar.

Speaker 1 A little bit of

Speaker 1 one-of-one, if you will.

Speaker 1 It was a fantastic football game.

Speaker 1 I'm very happy for Gumps to have

Speaker 1 his GM highly fired.

Speaker 2 I know he was excited about that.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I liked what I saw out of young Mike McDaniel. I thought he was quite a lively chap on the sidelines.
It was much different than we usually saw.

Speaker 1 And I wonder if his team hates his guts even more because he was yelling at him. Okay, so you're saying maybe a little bit different than what we had been like on a sideline.

Speaker 1 Anytime the locker room sees you change the way you act, that means, oh, it's not working. You don't even believe in stuff that was happening.

Speaker 1 And the people that can tell if it's real or if it's fake. And to be honest, McDaniel might be fed up, and that might be why he starts getting a little bit more lively on the sideline.

Speaker 1 And then there's going to be people that say, Is he a little bit more accountability driven? Is he understands that his days might be numbered at this point? Is a Miami Dolphins head coach?

Speaker 1 There's only 32 head coaches in the NFL. This is one of the jobs.
Now, Miami, are you ever going to be able to win in the NFL? Since my time covering this thing, Dan Maria, what are you all done?

Speaker 1 You go back to 72, obviously. I was there.
I was 18 whenever that was taking place.

Speaker 1 And I saw that team go undefeated and I thought, wow, this city, this weather, this team, this is going to be what it's going to be like forever.

Speaker 1 What I didn't realize was there comes a lot of distractions with that city, that weather, that situation. And I think in football, it takes a lot of people.

Speaker 1 It takes a lot of people to really be all going in the same direction.

Speaker 1 I think it's going to be very difficult for the Miami Dolphins to win, strictly because of how awesome that entire area is down there for everything but football. Okay.
I think that is

Speaker 1 a real thing to talk about as a young or old sports media person like I am, Peter Neverville.

Speaker 1 But on that note, that offense, that team, they were supposed to win. And it's kind of all gone to hell.
And now McDaniel's chewing people out on the sideline. Let's go to our coach for today.

Speaker 1 Let's go to Super Bowl champion, Jenser Legend, Coach Bill Cower. Coach now, Coach, great state.

Speaker 1 Thank you, boys. Coach, you saw a little fire out of McDaniel last night.

Speaker 1 Were you impressed, or what were your thoughts on last night's game?

Speaker 1 Tell you what,

Speaker 3 I am a Super Bowl winning coach.

Speaker 3 15 years for the Black and the Gold Hall of Fame. Let's not forget about that.
You can read about that in my book, Heart and Steel.

Speaker 1 Okay, you kind of got a little Dr.

Speaker 3 Phil bookselling ability. Yeah, situation.

Speaker 3 That's pretty good. You know, if you know anything about me, I don't love the cut of Mike McDaniel jib with all those things flapping around his shoes and whatnot.

Speaker 3 And the quarter, is he wearing corduroy's or what do you call those?

Speaker 1 Joggers. Joggers.

Speaker 3 Didn't love those. He just didn't have what it took last night.
Neither did Tua. Tua looked like Newell O'Donnell throwing them two interceptions in the 1995 Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 On the other side, though, Lamar Jackson looked like a young slash, a young Cordell Stewart running around out there. It was a very impressive.

Speaker 3 And yes, the Ravens are fully back and they are going to win the AFC North.

Speaker 1 Man, Cordell Stewart.

Speaker 1 10 years maybe before his time? Yes, I have a lot of time.

Speaker 1 10 years maybe before his time, it would have been spectacular. Oh, my God.
You're talking about punt return, wide receiver, quarterback, play safety if you need it. Guy was unbelievable.

Speaker 1 And when 10 was on the field, every play was alive. Feels like that with Lamar Jackson.
Let's go to longtime sports and weather reporter. For your local news, he's on your side.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, Edgar Sampson here. I got it, dude, brother.
Edgar. How you doing, Edward?

Speaker 2 My name is Edward Simpson. No relation to OJ, but yes, thank you, Pat.

Speaker 1 Oh, I thought it was Edgar Sampson.

Speaker 2 No, Edward Simpson. You got it very close.

Speaker 1 But no relation.

Speaker 2 Zero relation to OJ.

Speaker 1 You think when people see you, they would think immediately, you know what? That might be the juice's something like that.

Speaker 2 If they see me run a couple routes or maybe take a handoff, they do think that.

Speaker 1 Got the same jaw? I like your pizzazz.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they do kind of have similar jaw and strength. There is a glaring difference, but there is maybe, you know who.
I see it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What is that? That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 I'm saying you don't look like the juice, dude. Yeah, and

Speaker 1 he's in heaven. Remember that.
Yeah, you see the juice. You see the juice up there with your liar.

Speaker 1 Edward Simpson, let's go back to what you were talking about, No Relation.

Speaker 1 What did you see from Baltimore, maybe on the defensive side, that makes you think they could go on a run and are warranted of being the AFC North's favorites to win the division?

Speaker 2 Well, I think Chuck Pagana, you know, think about it. Chuck Pagan.

Speaker 1 He's got them figured out.

Speaker 2 Kyle Hamilton playing all over the place. You see him moving around.
Offense really can't get a beat on where he ever will be. He can blitz.
He can cover.

Speaker 2 He can play in the box like he's a linebacker.

Speaker 2 I think they're looking pretty good. Now, you might say, hey, this Dolphins offense may not be the best offense in the league, but hey, you still turned the ball over.

Speaker 2 You still played well and got a win on Thursday night.

Speaker 1 So obviously, this fourth and two call, we're going to keep playing it just because what happened? Chris Greer might have called this play Don. It might have been why it happened.

Speaker 1 Schefter has reported that McDaniel is.

Speaker 1 going to remain the head coach for the rest of the season. That announcement was made alongside the Greer firing a general manager.
I'll tell you what, hot dog, what happened last night.

Speaker 1 Lamar Jackson goes down to Miami and maybe saves the city.

Speaker 1 you know maybe changes the future of the dolphins let's go to the back room uh old floridaman back there uh floridaman old gambling look like partially

Speaker 1 dice player maybe corrupt florida man

Speaker 1 carl havoc yeah it does appear to be

Speaker 1 take this thing off um what are your thoughts on the miami dolphins state currently brother chris greer obviously let go from the miami dolphins effective immediately which we don't know what that means and uh mcdaniel to be the head coach for the rest of the year.

Speaker 1 And Lamar Jackson and Baltimore Ravens get back on track against your guys' team. How do you currently feel, old Florida, man?

Speaker 4 Chris Greer definitely had to go. It was a massive mistake.
He was there way too long. As for

Speaker 4 how they played, the defense played really well and the offense has been shite. And that is the problem when Tua is making the most money out of anybody.

Speaker 1 You talk about shite. What's right next to you there? I see some big old butt cheeks on top of somebody's head.
What's going on back there, sir? E-A-G-L-E-S. Eagles.

Speaker 1 Go, birds. Push that.
Tush. Push that.
Those are ass cheeks. Okay, so that's

Speaker 1 what we thought we were seeing there. Like little Nikki.
Those are ass cheeks on your head right there.

Speaker 5 Yeah, my favorite play in football is a tush, push. Nobody can stop it.
Nobody can beat it.

Speaker 5 The Giants can't stop it. The refs can't stop it.
What?

Speaker 5 And you, Didell, you can't stop it.

Speaker 1 We're the best team in football.

Speaker 5 Go, birds.

Speaker 1 Okay, so in front of you, I see one of the teams you called out. I see the shirt you're wearing too, the Thanks Giants shirt with Saquon doing the whoopee-woo over a guy.

Speaker 1 The Lions running backs are on his head. What's that? Oh,

Speaker 1 no, remember? Easy. They're not ass and cheeks anymore, Coach.
Oh, I forgot. You're right.
That was week one. Yeah, it was just week one.
Sorry. Now all of a sudden they're MVP candidates.

Speaker 1 Now that's what they got going on. So they're the opposite of what's on that man's head back there, that particular John back there.

Speaker 1 But right in front of him is massive Giants, legend in the making and superstar. I do believe.

Speaker 1 Jackson Dart, how's it feel about a man with ash cheeks on his head being able to dunk on you, Rightfully so.

Speaker 6 Oh, what up, coach?

Speaker 6 Yeah, I'm Mormon dog, so I don't know much about push and tushes, but I just hate losing. My boy Scott, we're going to miss him, dog.
But got to get back in the wind calm for real, man.

Speaker 1 Hey, Jackson, can you look at the camera so we can make sure everybody understands the accessorizing that was taking place here? We got multiple chains on too here, Jackson, don't we?

Speaker 6 Oh, yeah, dude. I got the drip, dog.

Speaker 1 4-0-6

Speaker 1 in the truck. Hey, Ed Simpson, that is something

Speaker 1 that is going to be able to happen for seemingly the next 10 years with Jackson Dart. Feels like he's actually going to be their franchise guy next.
Doesn't it feel that way?

Speaker 1 Yeah, they found their guy.

Speaker 2 I don't know if he would appreciate the representation that Bruce is giving of Jackson Dart, though. What do you think?

Speaker 1 Well, I guess you're Edward Simpson, so you're not impersonating anybody. But

Speaker 1 do you think, actually, you kind of are. Do you think whoever you are drawing inspiration from right now is feeling disrespected by how you're all?

Speaker 2 There may be a few people that think I am targeting them, but no, it's a conglomerate of a bunch of people that I have, you know, that I am drawing drawing smoke from all over the place.

Speaker 1 That's what you do whenever you've been around as long as I have, Peter and Everett.

Speaker 2 Yeah, me too. I've been around not quite as long as you, but you know, a few years.

Speaker 1 Wait, who are you again?

Speaker 2 Me? Yeah. Edward Simpson.

Speaker 3 I thought you were Ellen DeGeneres.

Speaker 1 Oh. Oh.

Speaker 1 You know what? I see where you're going with that. Yeah, she lives in my neighborhood.
Well, these aren't Christmas. That's what I dropped.
Oh, yeah, yeah. We hate her over there, too.
No, we're not.

Speaker 1 She obviously, yeah, a lot of heat on the way out with the internet for sure the um

Speaker 1 i mean the run she had though with that show just think about as people that do daily shows here the run that she had on that thing was outrageous i mean it was like the blueprint for what shows were and then that all kind of just really

Speaker 1 you've outlasted her piece no no i've not she was uh yeah i guess peter neverville has but i remember i'm yelling into a microphone in a in a small

Speaker 1 me and ever simply doing the same thing we've been around a long long time in this business we don't like what's happening nationally i'll tell you that do we not at all It's a bloody mess.

Speaker 1 I mean, don't get into the real details of things. For instance, easy conversation.
Michael Jordan's the best of all time. That's why I'm wearing these, bro.
Look at the shoes.

Speaker 1 You think I'm old, then boom, I'm wearing 23s. Yeah, look at the shoes.
I'm cool. You can relate.
Young kids relate to that. Yeah.
Yeah, I'm Jordan, though. Go ahead.
What? Debate, Moron.

Speaker 1 Tear those 40.

Speaker 2 See, I will take Michael Jordan in that debate. You know that.

Speaker 1 Who would you like to do?

Speaker 1 You're right. That is how this would go.
That is exactly how this would go. And that's why these young kids that do TV and stuff have no idea what they're doing.
No quote. We did that for what?

Speaker 1 I mean, they're talking about talking about other sports. Yeah, right.

Speaker 2 Imagine them working a green screen. They could never work a green screen like me and you can.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's right. And have to look off camera.
Yep. There's a screen over here, and it's like you're in a mirror, you know, like you, whoa, whoa, whoa.
And you know, you're trying.

Speaker 1 These youngs can't handle that. They can't handle that at all.

Speaker 1 And why do they even watch these other sports?

Speaker 1 Braun

Speaker 1 Jordan can carry the first I

Speaker 1 of every show. What are we even talking about? And then guess what? What did the Dallas Cowboys do? We'll tell you.
Jerry Jones, okay, went on the record and said,

Speaker 1 hey, listen, it's hard to really care right now about what's going on on the gridiron. Okay, I love my Cowboys.
Everybody knows I love my Cowboys.

Speaker 1 There's a $100 billion present value with gas out there, okay? A little honeyhole.

Speaker 1 We got something special. That's why I'm talking to you on the telephone rather than trying to fix our defense with the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 1 You know, I actually invested $1 billion in a rig to be able to get three miles deep into what could potentially be a honeypot of natural gas.

Speaker 1 Now, you might not understand anything I'm saying right there, but whenever we're talking scratch-offs, especially in the oil game, if you do recall, I had one

Speaker 1 beautiful oil rig.

Speaker 1 That as soon as she penetrated this lovely earth that we have, that thing went down there and started

Speaker 1 coughing like any mammal would. And then that thing started spewing oil.
And all of a sudden, I $100 million drill.

Speaker 1 And I said, Jerry, holy shit you bought the Dallas Cowboys that's all you need you just need one of these things to really go ham well Jerry Jones looking to do it again Jerry Jones put one billion dollars in one of these rigs I need to get three miles down there they're a little bit worried about how hot it's going to be so I need to go ahead and invest in this piping because all the older piping that's trying to get the natural gas they can get the excerpts of this honey hole but I can get right to the heart of it if I can get down there three miles so right now we're talking about that because I'm trying to figure out how the hell to get to the ground you know they say if you keep digging you'll get to China that's what i'm trying to do right now but before china

Speaker 1 hundred billion dollars in natural gas that's what he said to wall street journal now

Speaker 1 in a nutshell if we read the article right jackson dart is that not basically what was said in there in a nutshell exactly coach okay thank you jackson thank you jackson we have uh some uh gas you know uh dealers and information in the building but that is what jerry was talking about so in his world if you look at how he started his money just in general it was literally a one rig, a drill that went down, got him $100 million.

Speaker 1 He's got the Cowboys. He was in debt big time.
Jerry Jones has always been a roll-of-the-dice scratch-off guy. And right now, in his head, there's $100 billion right beneath our feet here.

Speaker 1 So you're telling me

Speaker 1 there's $100 billion down there? Yeah. Why haven't we gone? It's too deep for who? says Jerry Jones.
And that is what he is focused on at this exact moment.

Speaker 1 Because if not him, you don't think Elon's about to find a little shovel that can get down there and figure that whole thing. That guy can go to Mars.

Speaker 1 He can sure as hell get down there if he has to, is what Jerry Jones thinks. I got to beat him there.
If he's worth $100 billion, now you can spend it if you're Jerry Jones.

Speaker 1 And if I get $100 billion, the Dallas Cowboys are only going to get better.

Speaker 1 They're only going to get better and better. But what Dak Prescott had to say about it was this.

Speaker 7 Rach, you read the comment. And being honest with you, I don't know the full, full context of it.
I do know that, a piece of it.

Speaker 7 But being a fan and you just read that or hear that, yeah, of course. Especially right as many fans are and do and

Speaker 7 thankful that they do live and breathe by this team and they feel like their jobs are, you know what I mean, putting all their effort into this.

Speaker 8 So yeah, that could definitely be frustrating.

Speaker 7 But in that sense, I would just say like

Speaker 7 the guy's never really lied about who he is or

Speaker 7 what he's trying to do. And I think right there, he's just, I mean, hopefully he was talking about in that one particular moment, you know, maybe in those five minutes is what he was alluding to.

Speaker 7 And having a chance at $100 billion opportunity, I think he might take five minutes as well and go answer a call. So hopefully that's what he means, right?

Speaker 8 But I can see how it can be frustrating.

Speaker 7 Once again, for us as players, we control, we can control.

Speaker 7 That doesn't pertain to us right now. Our job is to make sure that we're getting ready for Monday night and going to be the best team that we can when we go out and play the Cardinals.

Speaker 1 Have you ever watched Shark Tank? These billionaires invest in a lot of different companies that call for their time. This is Jerry Jones.
He's a billionaire. He's a businessman.

Speaker 1 He's going to have other obligations in moments, in fleeting times. But throughout his entire life, all he cares about is a star, is basically what Dak Prescott says there.

Speaker 1 I think that's an accurate descriptor of the situation.

Speaker 1 But Cowboys fans don't want to hear that right now whenever their team is potentially ass cheeks on the defensive side after a massive trade takes place of Michael Parsons going to Green Bay Packers and him living up to every expectation that everybody thought he was going to be this year, Ed.

Speaker 2 Well, the problem is, don't Cowboys fans usually argue that Jerry is too involved, that he's in there and he's always like hoarding.

Speaker 1 He's

Speaker 1 his own pressure and he does all this stuff.

Speaker 2 I don't want to be controversial here now, but what I'm saying, think about it. Jerry's around.
He has his own press conferences. No other owners do that.

Speaker 2 I thought they'd be happy that Jerry's taking some time away from the facility.

Speaker 1 Hey, is that a dish rag in your pocket?

Speaker 5 I did find this on the Ice Maker

Speaker 1 right before the show. Yes, I knew I needed a little pizzazz.
Yeah, you do got a good flair, Ed.

Speaker 1 I think when people think about Ed Simpson, no relation, they think, wow, that guy's got good pizzazz and good sports takes. That's a good call, Heavenly Hulkster.
I I didn't even think about that.

Speaker 1 Jerry's basically saying,

Speaker 1 $100 billion down here. Have you ever seen, do you know what you could buy with $100 billion? That's what Jerry's going to be doing.

Speaker 2 You renovate the stadium again.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Brand new stadium. I can own five of the teams here now.
Exactly. And all of a sudden, I own five NFL teams.
That's where I'm at. I'm at elite status.

Speaker 1 Okay, I'm renting out Rome for my wedding. Okay, that's what I'm doing at that stage of this entire thing.
Jerry's saying,

Speaker 1 hell, I'm a... I'm going to fuck around and go to space like all these other guys that are worth all this amount of money.
That is what Jerry's thinking.

Speaker 1 And then he's also saying on the the other side, they got a little baby Jerry down there and Steven down there, and you got Shoddy and the boys down there. I got to take care of this at the moment.

Speaker 1 The boys are doing just fine, but everybody wants him to change his title, right? Well, if you're not going to do that, then you're not the general manager of the team.

Speaker 1 So if you're going to be the general manager, then you know, we need, at least in the middle of the season, need you to act like you're focused on the football team.

Speaker 1 Do you think that's the big problem, Heavenly Hulkster, as you look down from above?

Speaker 1 My two cents would be the Cowboys fans.

Speaker 1 Shut up, dude. Okay, it's been the same thing for the last 20 years.
Listen, Jerry's an oil man. Okay, you don't just wake up one more and say, you know what?

Speaker 1 I want to do some more. Cowboys are worth $10 billion.

Speaker 1 He's potentially sitting on $100 billion.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.
I think I know where he's going.

Speaker 1 It reminds me a lot of the story back when I was in WCW. You know, you got the Hulkster, who's obviously the biggest earner there is on the planet.

Speaker 1 And you got Eric Bischoff and Ted Turner coming to me and say, Hulkster, we need you to take some of that money and maybe funnel it to guys like DeMaleko.

Speaker 1 You know, maybe elevate the rest of the world. A thousand thousand holes, dude.
Exactly. The man of a thousand holes.
Everybody knows him. Everybody loves him.
Hulkster wasn't going to do that.

Speaker 1 You don't know that that's true, do you? Oh, I guess you do, actually.

Speaker 1 Believe me, brother, I do know that that's true. And the reason is because Hulkster puts butts in seats, okay?

Speaker 1 So the point being, all these people can say all this mumbo-jobo, dude, and say whatever they want, dude.

Speaker 1 You tell me ATT Stadium isn't going to be packed full on Sunday to watch their beloved Dallas Cowboys? It will be. So you can bitch and moan all you want.
Jerry ain't changing a damn thing, brother.

Speaker 1 Well, and Harry, that's a good point. Actually, I saw Jerry acting this offseason.
Why wasn't he studying tape

Speaker 1 when he did that? Why wasn't

Speaker 1 Coach Cower? You know what I mean? Why wasn't he doing that?

Speaker 3 I'm always in the lab studying tape, so that's not something that registers in my mind. All I did was leave, live, eat, and breathe football.

Speaker 3 So that's not something that I could ever just register with.

Speaker 1 Now, let's coach Cowry. Let's go to your world, Harry Potter.
Acting. How much time did that take for Jerry? Because what if he is focused on acting and nailing a scene?

Speaker 1 Maybe the best any cameo actor has ever done in this world. He'll probably win it every dude.
He'll probably win some sort of an award for what he did there.

Speaker 1 And also, maybe finding an oil rig that can get $100 billion.

Speaker 1 But the acting world, why was he focused on that, you think? Is he maybe distracted too much to be focused on the general manager duties, Harry?

Speaker 1 When it comes to someone like Jerry,

Speaker 1 it's a bit of a conundrum just because

Speaker 1 he's a man that can't be tied down to one thing. I know Dallas Cowboys are very similar to Victor Crumb fans, if you will.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 I'm trying.

Speaker 1 It's very hard to speak like that.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I'm sorry. Jerry Jones is Jerry Jones.
He doesn't give a shit what anybody says. And guess what?

Speaker 1 He's going to find that 100,000. Excuse me.
There we go. He's going to find his 100 million in it.
100 million. 100 billion in it? That's a little different.

Speaker 1 If it was 100 million, I don't think people would care. 100 $100 billion is like one of those hilarious fairy tale taxes that's out there.

Speaker 1 You're telling me three miles down here, there's $100 billion? He probably started kicking it through.

Speaker 1 How do I? Can I? Where's my shovel? Can I?

Speaker 1 Why haven't we started? What are you talking about? Can't get there. Also, closer you get to the center, allegedly, the hotter it gets.

Speaker 1 You know, those volcanoes that we see go off, that's where they're coming from. They're coming from down there.

Speaker 1 So, how are you going to be able to get to the natural gas whenever you get all that heat down there from the volcano? And Jerry's like, I just, a billion dollars.

Speaker 1 I can can get these pops to be able to handle it yeah they'll be they'll be cowboys pops they'll be able to handle it

Speaker 1 could have paid Michael

Speaker 1 Mike is

Speaker 1 now you heard Jerry talk about him I believe is what you're you're directly referring to but it's all in the title I think Ed honestly I believe it's all in the title that Jerry Jones has in which he is you know the general manager acting and president and that first 27 minutes of this show was brought to you by DoorDash

Speaker 1 now this DoorDash is certainly something, is it not, Ed?

Speaker 2 It's the best. Why do you think this little guy Smurf has the piece of pizza in his hand?

Speaker 1 Well, that's right, Ed. I don't think it's Smurf.

Speaker 1 I think it could potentially be, and I don't know if they paid for the rights for the duck, but it appears as if that is potentially a duck hand, if I had to guess, holding a slice of pizza in a very interesting way.

Speaker 1 You know, this particular mascot's animal doesn't know properly how to hold a piece of pizza, I think.

Speaker 1 So just kind of went with whatever they could because they knew, wow, I can't believe this pizza just got delivered to my house as easily and as efficiently as it did.

Speaker 1 And they just grabbed that thing out of the box and said, Give me that thing. And Hulks, you understand whenever a slice looks that nice, you just kind of grab however you can.

Speaker 1 Yeah, without a doubt, you got to remember, dude.

Speaker 1 I mean, if you're getting this from DoorDash, you know, it's coming from the place, and there's a good chance there's piping hot grease on the underside of the undercarriage of that slice of bizarre.

Speaker 1 You burn your hand, dude. That's right.
Harry, right now, Harry kind of looks like he's got a good handle on that thing, Randy. Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 It's pizza, pizza, massive.

Speaker 1 It is. You kind of look like you got a little baby hands with how big that pizza is.
But I can get pizza. And listen to this.

Speaker 1 Anything else? What? You kidding me, dude.

Speaker 1 You need to odor it? Sure. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You need something to shave your face?

Speaker 1 You need clothes because you look like an asshole. Yeah.
Not that that would ever happen to any of us. No.
Nope.

Speaker 1 Never.

Speaker 1 DoorDash got your back. I was in a place, I forget where it was.
Opened DoorDash. There was like three options.
I was like, wow, we're really fucking out here.

Speaker 1 You don't even have to do like the Google Maps thing. You know your way out there.

Speaker 1 Anything that is in 40 minutes of view, 30 minutes of view available on DoorDash, basically at this stage of DoorDash.

Speaker 1 I will say there are some prices that you're paying for some things just for convenience that you look at and you go, I can't be doing that every day.

Speaker 1 I can't be doing that every day. But boy, it's nice to be sitting at home and PF Chang shows up.
Oh my God. 740.
Don't even have to leave the house.

Speaker 1 Let me go ahead and dive right on in here to the Chang Spicy Chicken. We appreciate that.

Speaker 1 Shout out to DoorDash and shout out to sports fans everywhere who can order DoorDash or use DoorDash on game days in our mind. Yeah.
Hell yeah, brother.

Speaker 1 Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who is the face of sports conversation, which kind of

Speaker 1 what we hate about it. Ed, I don't want to kind of throw any direct shots.

Speaker 2 I don't hate anybody in the sports industry. Ed doesn't? No, Ed does not.
Just call him away to the top.

Speaker 1 How? Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 All the way to the top. Ed's trying to get all the way to the top?

Speaker 2 I might be in Tucson by next year.

Speaker 1 Where are you at right now, do you know?

Speaker 2 Tex Arcana.

Speaker 1 Okay, Tex Arcana. I've been hearing about Arkansas because I guess there's a D3 football game that has a big rivalry game next weekend.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, their stadiums are like three minutes away from each other. Interesting.
You should go. Division Tree.
Yeah, Division III game. There we go.

Speaker 1 Division Tree.

Speaker 1 Harry. It's a good point, Harry.
There's a lot of good games next week. We don't need to be burning up a bunch of jet fuel.
Go to Arkansas for some D3 game, brother. Harry, what? Have you heard?

Speaker 1 You know nothing about this, obviously. Goddamn right.

Speaker 1 And it's bliss. You can't say that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 How many times do I got to tell you guys, dude? Boom! Okay? Make me get on a jail-free card wherever you go, brother.

Speaker 1 Are those wings going to take you down to that D3 rivalry game, maybe? Yeah, maybe if St.

Speaker 1 Peter's joking around and we're, you know, wraffling or something and eclipse them, and I fall out of the sky and land there. Sure, maybe.

Speaker 1 Outside of that,

Speaker 1 come on, dude. Only place I'm going to be is a beach and clear water, or you know, right in front of Hogan's Hangout.
Clearwater Beach. Yeah, of course, dude.

Speaker 1 You could do one of your clouds like you did a few months back.

Speaker 1 Wasn't it gibberish this little guy saying? I can't understand a damn thing that's coming out of his mouth, brother.

Speaker 1 Joining us now. It's Harry Potter.

Speaker 1 I saw him heard.

Speaker 1 I told him, you know, his buddy Albus Dumbledore, he's a sweet dude. You know, I asked him if he wanted to come trade with the Hulkster.
You know, he didn't like it when the Hulkster started.

Speaker 1 Smack him around a bit, give him a couple atomic leg drops. Apparently, those British folks don't love that.
You slapped Albus real hard, dude. A couple chops.

Speaker 1 And then hit him with the, I'm a real man. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, the face of modern sports media.
Emmy Award-winning Dan Orlofsky. Hey, Danny!

Speaker 1 Whoa!

Speaker 1 Bart man.

Speaker 1 What up, Bart?

Speaker 1 What's going on?

Speaker 1 I think this is a good decision. Don't feel good about it? Probably should.
A hole.

Speaker 1 I think it was a good decision. Do you feel good about it or no?

Speaker 9 Can you guys hear me?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's just kind of echoed, you know, but I think natural mask stuff. We had it with Florida Man in the back as well.
Good enough. It's part of Halloween.
It's kind of Halloween football.

Speaker 1 We can hear you. You look amazing, and we appreciate you joining us.
Bart,

Speaker 1 what's your big takeaway from last night's game? Lamar Jackson back and filthy. Is that the conversation? A couple of those throws were obviously elite.
Highest QBR at one point.

Speaker 1 I don't know if that's still the stat. I apologize for not looking that up right before we go live.
But he is just unbelievable through the sky. And then obviously being able to run.

Speaker 1 Bart, what did you see from the Ravens and Lamar last night to maybe make you think this team can go on a run and maybe win the AAC North?

Speaker 9 Lamar in the offense was fine.

Speaker 9 You know, the play action pass game, that's kind of their bread and butter right now, throwing the ball. That was really good.
That's kind of who they are at their best when it comes to the pass game.

Speaker 9 Certainly, the run game got going a little bit in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 9 I don't think that they dominated at the line of scrimmage running the football, but Namal looked relatively sharp when it comes to not having played for a month.

Speaker 9 So, like, offensively, I thought they were fine. Rinkus kind of smoothed throughout the course of the game.
They did some good stuff.

Speaker 9 He made some really nice throws versus main coverage.

Speaker 1 Bart, that's a pretty good breakdown, bro.

Speaker 1 Bart, that's pretty good breakdown.

Speaker 9 Yeah, yeah, thank you.

Speaker 9 My big takeaway is how good the defense looked. You know, the defense in the last three games has given up 13 a game.

Speaker 9 Bringing Kyle down to the football. Malachi Sturks playing the nickel.
Much better against the run. Took the ball away.

Speaker 9 Gilman's been an outstanding addition just because Gilman allows Kyle to go closer to the football. Kyle's big enough to handle the run.
He's athletic enough to play against any type of pass.

Speaker 9 Malachi Sturx, I thought, had a fantastic game, just when it comes to running to the football, playing with

Speaker 9 discipline. And then I think their defensive line, for the most part, played a way more consistent game run defense-wise.
So

Speaker 9 the offense for Lamar playing for the first time in about a month was good. The big takeaway is how impressive the defense has been in the last three or four games.

Speaker 9 That's kind of what gives me the biggest encouragement. This defense continues to play this way.
This offense was his 30th great greatness last year. They'll be fine.

Speaker 1 Okay, Bart. Bart knows ball.

Speaker 1 That's part of it.

Speaker 1 13 a game the last three games for that defense that was uh ass and cheeks like the tush push uh just a few weeks back which we were all very worried about with you know the baltimore ravens everybody sportsbooks had them as the favorite to win the afc north even when they didn't look good and when uh lamar was hurt and they're obviously their record at this exact moment is three and five i just want to make sure i had that right and they're still the favorite to win the afc north It's like everybody believes that this Ravens team can be great just because we all know who's on that team.

Speaker 1 We just hadn't seen it for a while. And now all of a sudden, it's like, let's get the Miami Dolphins in prime time.
Lamar's return. He's going to go absolutely insane.

Speaker 1 And on the other side, they're going to fire the general manager. Your thoughts, Bart, on Chris Greer since 2016, kind of his era ending in this entire thing?

Speaker 9 Yeah, this was the move that felt most likely for Miami. One, the roster's not good enough.
If you look at his drafts, Chris Greer,

Speaker 9 I think since like 2021, I think there's like five starters or six starters that have come from their first three round picks. So you're talking 15, 20 picks that are made right around there.

Speaker 9 There are only six guys have become starters. It just hasn't panned out health-wise or development-wise.
I never thought that Mike McDaniel, at least right now, was that kind of on the hot seat.

Speaker 9 I knew results matter, yes. And two years ago, just about this time, this was the number one seed in football.

Speaker 9 They were playing home versus the Titans on Monday night to kind of lock up AFC East in almost the number one seed. They lose that game in that ridiculous comeback in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 9 And it's kind of gone downhill since then. That's kind of like,

Speaker 9 I don't think Mike McDaniel forgot how to coach. I don't believe that Tua, who was at that point an MVP candidate, forgot how to play.

Speaker 9 So that's for Maimi, the biggest kind of issue is that the talent isn't really equal to the Echelon AFC teams.

Speaker 9 I think the next step, Jalen Wilde, I would entertain trading him if I could get good value.

Speaker 9 Jalen Phillips and Bradley Chubb, I would very much so entertain both trading both of those guys if I get fair value.

Speaker 1 Just as we're talking about it here, they trade Jalen Ramsey. and they trade John Hu Smith to the Pittsburgh Steelers this offseason, preseason.
What were the expectations for this Dolphins team?

Speaker 1 And now we're we're talking about them trading away all their other best players. I'm very fascinated on what was supposed to happen this year.
And let's go to one half of the hammer. Don,

Speaker 1 Cowboys,

Speaker 1 old Florida man. Florida man, what were the expectations? And was this inevitable?

Speaker 4 This was inevitable. We were quietly optimistic.
I mean,

Speaker 4 Jalen Waddell's not getting traded. I could see trading Chubb and Phillips, Judah, maybe, but...
Ramsey wanted to go. Not paying Jonu Smith was diabolical.
Our only Pro Bowler wanted to be there.

Speaker 4 He had to stay. You lose him.
And it's been a disaster ever since.

Speaker 1 Smart to start speaking with your hands. I don't think anybody really knew which person back there was speaking.
So thank you.

Speaker 1 Thank you for doing that just strictly because you have such a stone face. You too, Bart.
You should be pretty animated when you're talking because, you know, it's just a still shot.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there you go. That's what we're talking about.
By the way, great breakdown by Bart Simpson. People are reading the captions, going, What is Bart knows ball here? Unbelievable.

Speaker 1 Bart knows ball here. Keep my shorts, dude.

Speaker 1 That's Tush Push, number one fan, back in the back. He's Philly John, obviously.
And Foxy, a hot dog, dude. You look good.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I'm a hot dog. I just like to point out that this hot dog has no mustard, ketchup only.

Speaker 1 I actually ordered it with mustard. I had to paint over this

Speaker 10 because everyone's out there. But yeah, let's go ketchup on your hot dog.

Speaker 1 I like that. Now, did you put the ketchup on top because you had to paint over the mustard that was on the top? Exactly.
The right move, actually. And everybody goes,

Speaker 1 hot dog is sandwich, yada, yada, yada. It's a taco, okay? And just like any taco, you know, anything that's like movable, you put in the bottom, they put stuff on top.
You can do that.

Speaker 1 You definitely put the ketchup at the bottom of the taco. Okay.
And then you put the hot dog on top of that. Then you shut that thing.
What's that?

Speaker 9 Interesting.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you put it at the bottom. Now, granted, if you have buns that are kind of ash cheek and they are separated, you don't do that.

Speaker 1 That is the worst case scenario. The only reason why I don't like going on top is because the way it gets all your face.
But if you put it on the bottom, that thing's part of the bite.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm saying, Bart?

Speaker 9 I'm into that now. I actually like taking American cheese, a scare of it, slicing it or cutting it in half, and putting half on each side of the hot dog.

Speaker 1 Yeah, not a bad play.

Speaker 1 That's a good play. Did not expect that.

Speaker 1 I thought you were going to say you eat the cheese slices from the inside out like it's a pizza whenever you rip them in half because of some of your other takes, like Reese's Cups.

Speaker 1 Oh, like Reese's cups. What do you do to the Reese's cups again?

Speaker 9 If it's just like a Reese's cup, the traditional one, I take the kind of the perforated shell, I bite it off because it's too much chocolate. There's not a good ratio.

Speaker 9 And I don't like milk chocolate, so I just bite it off and kind of eat the internal part. Yeah,

Speaker 1 you put a video of yourself doing that, or somebody else put a video of you doing that because that is serial killer behavior, I think.

Speaker 1 And when people watch you do that, they thought to themselves, we should check this guy.

Speaker 1 And then I think I said to you immediately afterwards, like, hey, you could just kind of split that in half and then eat that thing like a pizza from the middle, right?

Speaker 9 You did tell me this.

Speaker 9 You did tell me this. I haven't done it yet, but now you've reminded me.
So I'm going to do that. Yeah,

Speaker 1 you look like Ace Ventura whenever he sits down and they eat an ashtray whenever he's doing sunflower seeds with this entire thing. Yeah.
Feeding the birds. How old are you, Bart?

Speaker 9 I think Bart was 13. I'm 42.

Speaker 1 You're how? 42?

Speaker 9 Boss grew up. 42.
I just turned 42 this summer.

Speaker 1 Happy birthday, dude. Happy birthday, brother.

Speaker 1 Hey, you've been eating races like this for probably, what, 32 years? And you never thought once to go from the middle inside out? See, that's what we're talking about with serial kill behavior.

Speaker 1 And Ryan Clark saw that, him doing that. We're like, other people need to see this.
Other people need to see this. It's a big time problem.
Speaking of needing to see this, we need to see a good game.

Speaker 1 Okay, NFL. I'm Tarvin.
55 years ago, 1970, okay? This league came together to do something special. I was there when they signed the shit.
Okay.

Speaker 1 First time, 55 years last weekend, there was only one game that was decided by single digits. Okay.
Only one game.

Speaker 1 I'm just an old sports media person.

Speaker 1 Pizza.

Speaker 1 You see, and I go through waves of who I am.

Speaker 1 Am I a conversational respected young generation guy? Or am I, I know more than you because I've been around this place longer than you have. I forgot more about sports than you've ever learned.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but we're in a very new stage of life. Don't care.
Don't care. I know every life, kid.
Your life, this big. My life, this big.
Shut the fuck up.

Speaker 1 It's hard not to be that guy every time,

Speaker 1 but I don't want to do that. Okay.
Especially because we got Heavenly Hulkster here. Yeah.
Thank you, dude.

Speaker 1 Although I do like kind of the best of both worlds there, brother. Well, that's what I'm trying to do.
Yeah. I'm kind of in the middle of it because he brought up Jalen Waddell.

Speaker 1 Let's trade him out of there. And you heard Dolphins fan, Florida Man in the back goes.
Oh, okay. Our only cool thing, really.
But like, him doing this is like so cool. Like, it is so cool.

Speaker 1 I'm sure there'd be a lot of teams that would love him. Tuesday, 4 p.m.
Eastern Time, trade deadline for the NFL. This weekend's matchups are going to have a lot of say in what takes place.

Speaker 1 But on that note of one good game last week and then Thursday becomes another double-digit win for a team. There's a game this weekend that's a guaranteed luck.

Speaker 1 Eddie Simpson, no relation to OJ has a question.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no relation to Bart either.

Speaker 1 Bart,

Speaker 2 4.25 on Sunday, I believe Chiefs playing the Buffalo Beals. What do you expect from this game? Who do you think is going to win? And are the Chiefs full with with the Chiefs again?

Speaker 2 Are they back and going to make a run for the Super Bowl?

Speaker 9 Yeah, I mean, the Chiefs are as hot as anybody in football had this team going. I think they're the second best team in the NFL right now behind Detroit.
So defense is ticking.

Speaker 9 They put Rasheed and Travis next to each other. It's just a problem.
Right now, Patrick throwing the ball to either of those guys, Rasheed Rice or Travis. He's 52 of 67.
We're over 600 yards.

Speaker 9 And those of those 600 yards, 351 of them are yards after the catch. And so, like, if you watch defenses, AJ, you would speak to this.

Speaker 9 Like, when they put those two guys next to each other, it's so hard to defend because you have to have so many eyes on them because they're both in the middle of the field that, like, they attract so much of your attention.

Speaker 9 And then all of a sudden, there's one of you running down the field, like, uncovered. And so, how does that happen? And then the reality is you want to have people near them.

Speaker 9 Do you trust those people in space? You know, with a player like Kelsey and you give him space, do you trust the person that's going going to be quote-unquote near them, zone or man?

Speaker 9 Do you trust him in space? I think this game comes down to those defensive lines. Neuron defensive lines have been very good this year.

Speaker 9 The bills, but that's not over.

Speaker 9 Forces have some moments.

Speaker 9 That's just had some moments. We're six moments.

Speaker 1 You can get 15%.

Speaker 9 Just going to go down to the first quarter.

Speaker 9 Dude, you got to get this dude on the ground because I have to.

Speaker 1 Sound like Charlie Brown's parrots, dude. Yeah, it's starting to drift out a little bit.

Speaker 1 I think there's maybe, I don't know if it's when you hit something or make another noise, it drowns out yours in the back because these phones are so smart. The phones are so smart.

Speaker 1 So the phone is trying to listen for voice or sound right now. So whenever you hit your hand, I think it picks up that as opposed to the bland yellow image that's right behind that that is speaking.

Speaker 1 So I think you can't be too animated. So we said earlier, Bart, need you to be animated.
Let's not be too, let's make sure we're

Speaker 1 animated in silence.

Speaker 1 I think that's where we got to be.

Speaker 9 I think we get to the defensive lines. I think defensive line, most of these have been underperforming.
That's why there's a lot of fun ways to get Patrick on the background.

Speaker 9 But then also like Kansas City, like Chris Jones has not played to the level of Chris Jones. Corlaftis has been,

Speaker 9 but he hasn't been dominant. Josh, this is a game for me because I'm Josh Allen.

Speaker 9 It's like, you've been onto the football a long time. I'm going to see if this defensive line has been kind of been pained me.

Speaker 1 We got to call you back, brother.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Hey, Dan, Bart, we got to call you back.
We can't hear what you're saying. You're giving good takes, though.
And you look amazing, Bart. We can't hear what you're saying.
No, don't do that.

Speaker 1 Don't do that.

Speaker 1 Come on, you fool.

Speaker 1 All right, we'll call you back. We'll call you back, Dana.
We'll call you back. Bart, sorry, Bardo.

Speaker 3 Barto, we'll call you back. Nigga comes back with a different.

Speaker 1 What was he saying? He was saying defensive lines need to be used.

Speaker 3 Both defensive lines have played poor this year. And so the defensive line.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
He's sweating his ass off.

Speaker 1 Dano, yeah, I think that's what I look like right now as well. Oh, you have the AirPods in.
That was definitely what it was. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Don, you fool. Now you're muted.
Now you're muted, I think. Did you muted it? Did we mute you? We muted you.
I can't hear Pat. There we go.
Can you hear me now?

Speaker 1 Can you hear me now? Donald. I'm not Pat.
Please, Peter Neverville. Thank you.
Have a little respect.

Speaker 9 I hear him now.

Speaker 1 Dan.

Speaker 11 There we go. It wasn't bark out here.
It was just a mask.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 9 God. Just a mask.

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 9 You're kind of pet. I got another costume.
All right.

Speaker 1 There we go. Cool.
Yes. Taylor LeWan, a little bit.
Sorry for infrastructure.

Speaker 1 My hustle, Buck.

Speaker 1 Well, don't give away the gimmick roller.

Speaker 3 I can't wait.

Speaker 1 Happy Halloween to everybody. Yeah, it's like a

Speaker 1 slutty nurse cost me going for something.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Paul Reddy, dude.
Wow. That's so cool, dude.
I'm your father, right? What is that?

Speaker 1 No. Ansolo.
Yeah, technically, that's not the same. But it's say franchise, so yeah.

Speaker 1 It's grandfather, I guess. Fodder's fodder.

Speaker 1 I am your fodder's father, is what it actually is.

Speaker 1 That looks great.

Speaker 1 And let's do a testy.

Speaker 1 Do a testy fodder's father.

Speaker 9 Does this sound better?

Speaker 1 Oh, you sound amazing. Hell yeah.
Thank you for joining us, Mr.

Speaker 1 Kahlo Red. Okay, Hulkster, going to need to be a little bit more.
Mr.

Speaker 1 wren mr wren on that i appreciate the hell out of you hulkster i didn't know you're such a big fan of the star wars franchise oh yeah dude you can't beat me i mean harrison forbes always one of my favorites he's a big-time hulker maniac and then adam driver uh guy who played kylo red is actually a former marie i believe

Speaker 1 indeed princess lay up there with you yeah she's she's a sweet gal

Speaker 1 that's nice you hulkster thanks for all this breaking news feels like you're really breaking a lot of news do what i can dude heavenly hulkster doing his thing okay so mr wren um whenever you think about this chiefs bills game if you're going to go back to say everything you were just said that we couldn't really hear but in a much shorter condensed version what what would that exactly be mr wren

Speaker 9 yeah i think this game comes down to what defensive line plays better than they have this year neither defensive line has been great buffalo's playing without ed oliver bosa's brought in bosa you're brought in for a game like this uh vanessa's been okay rousseau's been fine so like they're gonna have at some point in the fourth quarter, Kansas City's going to have that third down, that fourth down.

Speaker 9 They got to get to Patrick. They got to make sure that Patrick's legs aren't used.
And then vice versa, Kansas City's defensive line. Chris Jones has not been what Chris Jones has been.

Speaker 9 Carloftis has been up and down. If I'm Josh Allen, this game, they got to score 30 to win.
I'm going to hold the football. I'm going to make this defensive line chase me down.

Speaker 9 I'm going to try to create big plays because they can't necessarily in the rhythm of their past game. Whoever defensive line plays better, I think, wins the game.

Speaker 1 I love that. I can't wait to see who does it.
What did Bengals just do?

Speaker 1 Well, they got a bunch of people asking for a trade. They've had four people request a trade in the last, let's say, four months, if you include Trey Hendrickson.

Speaker 1 Most recently, literally, I think yesterday or something like that. So, Trey Hendrickson, Logan Wilson, we heard about that last week.
McKinley Jackson, and then Mike Pinnell, he was releasing.

Speaker 1 He's back with the Chiefs now. Chris Jones is very pumped about that.
There's a lot of people trying to get the hell out of Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 Now, the narrative is this, a couple of them came shortly after that players-only defensive meeting.

Speaker 1 now obviously if you recall Lou Anarumo longtime defensive coordinator for the Bengals is now defensive coordinator for the Indianapolis Colts this is all on the defensive side of the ball kind of this entire thing was Lou holding the entire place together like what is your kind of takeaway on what's going on in Cincinnati and on that note

Speaker 1 we would like to say to the Cincinnati Bengals fans we're sorry this is all happening to you guys but this is a wild scene that this is taking place in an AFC North team that has just spent hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars on building their roster, trying to be in a Super Bowl window.

Speaker 1 That's the only reason why you pay everybody is because you're trying to win a Super Bowl. Now, that's how they feel.
Is that a reality going into the season? I don't know.

Speaker 1 But guys coming out openly in 2025 saying we want to be traded in the middle of the season is pretty crazy. Abnormal, Mr.
Wren, I'd say.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I agree. I think, obviously, this was a team that was all in when it came to how they went through their offseason.

Speaker 9 They thought that Al Golden, the new defensive coordinator, would get this defense to play better and some of their young pieces would step up.

Speaker 9 I think a player like DJ Turner has at the corner position, but the defense still is a very bad unit. Logan Wilson's straight, I mean, Trey was the obvious one.

Speaker 9 Once they started to struggle and Joe went down, he's not signing back there.

Speaker 1 They don't appreciate him enough.

Speaker 9 I don't think Logan Wilson's been paid recently. I thought there was some noise about Logan last year wanting a new contract.
I don't know if he got it or not. Logan Wilson's a really good linebacker.

Speaker 9 They would fully expect if they can get good value to move on from him. If I was a team like the Dallas Cowboys, I would be calling about Logan Wilson.
It's crazy that

Speaker 9 within the last year, it's gone from, my gosh, this is a historical offense. Joe goes unbelievable.
If they could just get better, they'll get back in the Super Bowl race. And now it's like...

Speaker 9 Very dire future, it looks like, as of right now in Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 Yeah, obviously not great whenever people are trying to get their ass out of there and willing to take a public hit, you know, because anytime a player comes out and says, I would like to be traded, he is also admitting that it's not working, right?

Speaker 1 So there's two people that are part of a relationship. So anytime anybody comes out negatively about each other, it's like, hey, we're both admitting fault here.
At least I am. This is not working.

Speaker 1 I would like something new.

Speaker 1 Let's go to Cincinnati Bengal alumni, maybe ruler of the jungle someday, and a man who grew up as a Cincinnati Bengal fan, Edward Simpson, your thought on the amount of players wanting out of Cincinnati and what does that say to you, brother?

Speaker 2 Well, I mean, I think with when Logan Wilson, he was, you know, they had some young kids kids step up and started playing well, so they were, he was getting much reduced role, I guess.

Speaker 2 The other guys, I mean, Mike Pinella, you saw how happy they were to get him back in Kansas City. I played with Mike in Green Bay, actually, or I should say the person who...

Speaker 2 The guy AJ who used to be me. I don't even know.

Speaker 1 I'm kind of like Inception. You're a dude who played a dude disguised as another guy.
Edward Simpson did not. No, Edward Simpson could fly.

Speaker 2 Edward Simpson played in 1948. That was a long time ago, I think.

Speaker 1 But you were

Speaker 1 right after you. No, yeah.
I actually, you had my shoulder. We were wearing those leather helmets.
I wore your shoulder pads. You wore my leather helmet.
Yes, yes.

Speaker 2 It was like springy inside.

Speaker 1 That's what we did for sports.

Speaker 2 We did a lot for sports.

Speaker 1 But the Bengals are dead?

Speaker 2 No. I do not think the Bengals are dead.
Dano, or Dano, or Mr. Wren?

Speaker 1 Is that right? Kylo. Kylo, do you believe...

Speaker 2 Okay, so what do the Bengals look like next year, Mr. Wren?

Speaker 2 Like, what's the record? Obviously, let's assume Joe Burrow's back. Joe Burrow's back.
What do they look like? Can they stop somebody next year defensively?

Speaker 9 Yeah, I think, to be honest with you, I think the number one question is: is Zach Taylor the coach?

Speaker 9 That's

Speaker 9 a fair question to ask, given what's kind of transpired over the last year or two. I think Zach Taylor is a really good coach, and it's been a while now in Cincinnati.

Speaker 9 Joe hasn't been able to stay healthy.

Speaker 9 So I think it's fair to say the scheme that is deployed, while it's allowed for a ton of success, has it also been a part of, you know, Joe being a little bit more exposed to some hits.

Speaker 9 They're going to have to get a significantly better performing offensive line. The defense still can't tackle.
So the defense has got to get much better at some of the basic fundamental stuff.

Speaker 9 So how does that happen? So who is Cincinnati next year? I think it starts with what's the plan at coach.

Speaker 9 And then if it's Zach Taylor, they're going to have to, I think, philosophically change at least the way they approach football and how they want to play it. They can still be ridiculous offensively.

Speaker 1 they got to protect him much better and they got to play significantly improved football in the back end of their on pin totality on defense okay it sounds like you're trying to go back to an older version of you there didn't it now i know you know last year you became good guy and say you know i won't be nice but you used to be absolute killer out there absolutely and now you're saying what's zach taylor looking like next year that's a good question geez kylo

Speaker 1 geez they got a lot of season left now uh obviously joe burrow seemingly gets hurt because of what you're talking about with the offensive line. Did they try to address that? Yes.

Speaker 1 Have they really figured it out? No. And then when they spend money everywhere they spend money, everybody that knows football was like, is that a way? Is that a way to win Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 We shall see with the Bengals. People asking to be out of there.

Speaker 1 Now, let's talk about a team that did have Super Bowl aspirations this offseason as they were doing a bunch of stuff that nobody had really ever seen before. Coach Cower has a question for you.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we'll start with that. And Kylo, when you said, see, Dan, just apologize to

Speaker 3 all of pittsburgh he was right we were wrong they stink okay they should be 0-6 the record is a fraud anyways colts are visiting them this weekend is there any chance the colts don't score 50 points against pittsburgh steelers this weekend i'm going to be there for the celebration of the 20th anniversary of the 2005 super bowl team an incredible team a team that played defense what do you think how many the colts score this weekend legends legends yeah I would be surprised if the Colts don't put up at least 35.

Speaker 9 I think the Colts have one of the most difficult offenses to match up within the NFL. Here's where I am with Pittsburgh, coach.

Speaker 9 Like, number one, defensively, if you've just watched this team play against the run,

Speaker 9 they're too straight up.

Speaker 9 And JJ could talk to this better than I can, but like, from an offensive perspective, if I were to run the ball against Pittsburgh, I don't think that they play with the proper pad level, a consistent basis to stop the run.

Speaker 9 They just don't. A little bit is their scheme.
I've talked to Marcus about this because they're trying to two-gap, meaning they hold on to an offensive lineman.

Speaker 9 They're trying to peek which ways to run, but they're standing up.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I know it's still a run game.

Speaker 9 Okay, that's why they're struggling to start to run in totality. And then the backers,

Speaker 9 the backers see that, and they're trying to get into a gap, and they'll sometimes get into the wrong gap. The thing that struggles with, or I see what they struggle with coverage-wise, is this.

Speaker 9 For a couple of years there, it was like they were so simple on defense, coverage-wise. They didn't do anything other than like cover three.

Speaker 9 This year, it looks like they've tried to change things and they're trying to confuse the quarterback in disguise. Here's the thing, though.

Speaker 9 When they do that, they're consistently out of position.

Speaker 9 They're trying to get so creative and so unique with some of their coverages that they're out of position, or this guy's late, or you're not getting to the right kind of zone. And

Speaker 1 when you do that,

Speaker 9 AJ knows this.

Speaker 1 Like, you

Speaker 9 make it on a string almost.

Speaker 1 And they're not good players.

Speaker 1 All right. There's a lot of stats going on about the defense.
What you're saying, probably very valid. All the Insers know is they spent a lot of money back there.

Speaker 1 And for them to be the problem, can't happen. Wouldn't have happened in 2005 when Bill Cower was chewing people out and spitting on faces if it wasn't going the right way.

Speaker 3 No, I would have got on the boys. Peasy would have got on the boys.
James Fayer, 05-1, the MVP would have gone on them. This would never have happened.
Big Hamps in the middle.

Speaker 1 Come on. Come on.
Still turn around. A lot of football left.
And for you, kylo we appreciate you joining us also bart and dan it appears wow dan rulopsi

Speaker 1 oh and bart and bart is three-headed man pole three-headed monster oh this guy's three-headed monster we appreciate you danel all right we'll be uh back on the other side

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Speaker 14 Hey fans, welcome back to Fansville's cheers

Speaker 14 and tears.

Speaker 14 Okay, so like everybody deals with losing, right? To a rival on a last second field goal, whatever, it's fine, I'm totally fine. But I cope with losing with an ice-cold Dr.
Pepper.

Speaker 14 Those 23 flavors are like so delicious. They totally wash away the pain of your college football team taking a big fat L.

Speaker 14 College football, it's a pepper thing.

Speaker 1 That's right, Football Brother is what we talk about usually.

Speaker 1 But I'll tell you what, what, the run NFL games has been ass and cheeks. Like the man behind the glass, the Philly John, who's dressed as the Tush Push's biggest fan.

Speaker 1 That is what football has been, what's sitting on top of that man's head in the back corner. There's an old Florida man right next to him.
They got Jackson Dart sitting in the front row.

Speaker 1 Hot dog with ketchup on top, as opposed to mustard, is a man who loves the Detroit Lions and loves having a good time. Hot dog's synonymous with good times, heaven fucks.
Yeah, amen.

Speaker 10 Everyone likes the hot dog.

Speaker 1 Anytime you eat a hot dog, you usually at a ball game, you usually at a get-together, a family event, you name it.

Speaker 1 You can't go wrong with a nice wiener. Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 Why'd you slide?

Speaker 1 Easy, dude.

Speaker 1 I guess you can guzzle those glizzy wieners down and have the time of your life out there, hot dog. And a man next to you seems to be no stranger if I had to just read the vibes.

Speaker 1 Jackson Dart, you a hot dog guy? Feels like you're probably a pretty big hot dog guy. Love a glizzy glizzy coach.

Speaker 6 Give me like four or five, maybe even six, seven.

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah, yeah, I got it. Yeah, it's very cool.
You're number six, too. I'm sure you haven't, you know, really utilized that, as you should, by the way, Jackson.

Speaker 1 And I want to let you know, Jackson, I think most of the time somebody like you becomes public, people automatically don't want to like them.

Speaker 1 The fact that everybody loves you is because you're so damn good at football. You're an absolute beast, dude.
And I appreciate the fact that everybody's kind of giving you a chance.

Speaker 1 I want to let you know that.

Speaker 6 Hell yeah. Thanks, Coach.

Speaker 1 Aren't you perfect for day ball, too? How much do you love that guy?

Speaker 6 Oh, Daves, man. You know, he's the best.
We just got to get back in the dub call.

Speaker 1 I'm the losing just kills me. Well, Scataboo, obviously, happy Halloween.
The Scata

Speaker 1 shirt that Peter Schrager had the other day was awesome, you know, kind of honoring him. You know, the NFL lost one of its faces in Scatteraboo, you lost a best friend, Jetson.

Speaker 1 You're my boy, Scat.

Speaker 6 He's going to be back better than ever, though, Coach. Don't worry about it.

Speaker 1 So does Jackson call everybody coach? Is that how that goes?

Speaker 6 Just you, Coach.

Speaker 1 There is a coach on set. He's one half of the hammer.

Speaker 3 I don't know if he was talking to me, but all I know is as a coach, you cannot replace a Cam Scataboo, okay? As a person, as a player, any of those things.

Speaker 3 We lost a goo.

Speaker 1 Who's that? Cam Scatabue. No, yeah, but it sounds like you were talking from personal perspective.

Speaker 3 Oh, I was personally talking about when T.C. Williams lost Gary Bertier.
You cannot replace a Gary Bertier on the football field or as a person.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think you're right. And

Speaker 1 I didn't even think about that because where Burt here was at the beginning of that thing

Speaker 1 versus the end.

Speaker 1 Certainly a fascinating situation. Let's go to the talks of table.

Speaker 1 Very spooky, Helen here. Heavenly Hulkster, your thoughts on

Speaker 1 everything happening in current conversation and spookiness with the vapes here. Yeah, I'll be honest, brother, I don't love this, okay?

Speaker 1 I feel like I'm at, you know, like a bowling alley for corner mania or something like that.

Speaker 1 This kind of garbage doesn't happen beyond the pearly gates okay so if we could okay good it's starting to kind of dissipate a little bit uh remember the titans yeah you know great movie i love toy saying that but you know it is interesting dude you know just the amount of kind of elbows i've been able to rub up here in heaven uh at my version of the hogan's hangout you know guys like jackie robinson you know, who a long time ago, people would have said, Hulks are ain't never going to be doing anything with Jackie Robinson.

Speaker 1 I went out and played Pepper with him for an hour and a half. Do you know what Pepper is? Yeah, yeah, when you're...
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 It's like, you know, you play before like a baseball game, like high school, grade school, underhand ball, somebody, they try to get a button down.

Speaker 1 If they pop it up, you run over there, catch it, and they guess. Hulkser's pretty good at that game.
Oh, brother. Hulkster.
You lost the Jackie by a lot, though. No.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Hulkster always gets a button down. So we even got to a point where Hulkster had to basically be like, who wants to bat? I'll play defense.
You guys ain't never getting me out, brother.

Speaker 1 And they knew, you know, we laughed about it. We giggled.
And one of the other best parts about being up here, bottomless. I'm talking bottomless.
You get like these big jokes from St.

Speaker 1 Peter when you come in, basically, whatever kind of beverage you want in there. Really? Yeah, exactly.
Do you have American beer?

Speaker 1 On tap. Everywhere you go, you fill up your beer.
You drink it till it's gone. In the

Speaker 1 Hulkster's case, I'm just

Speaker 1 And when you're done, that thing feels right back up to the top. Perfect amount of head.
Icy cold. Icy cold.
Perfect amount of heck.

Speaker 1 Where's this at? This is Hogan's Hangout. Hogan's Hangout.

Speaker 1 I'm talking maybe like 150 feet past the Pearl League Gates. You say that.
It looks like London Prime Real Estate. It's, well,

Speaker 1 let's just say, everybody.

Speaker 1 I wasn't kidding first hour when I told you how big of a Hulkamaniac St. Peter was.
You should see my spread over here, dude.

Speaker 1 Me, I got DMX coming over to my house every night, smoking cigars, playing cards.

Speaker 1 That is one thing. Me and me and X, well, I call him Earl, but me and X, we took a couple four-wheelers.
Terry or no? He does call me Terry.

Speaker 1 He's one of the few guys up here who I allow to call me Terry, brother. He's become a dear, dear friend.

Speaker 1 We were basically recreating the Rough Riders. I hit the video.
Yeah, exactly. Getting them puppies up on two and just ginging, you know, kind of raising little H-E-double hockey sticks.

Speaker 1 We don't like saying that up here. And even at that point, Jesus and St.
Peter had to come up and be like, Earl, Terry. You got to scare everybody, man.

Speaker 1 You guys still, you know, obey the traffic laws up here. So we don't do that as much.
But yeah, let's just say the Hulkster's really, really enjoying his time up here so far, brother.

Speaker 1 Well, happy Halloween. And it's not even WrestleMania season yet, dude.
It's comments right around. I know.
They're going to Vegas. I don't know if you.

Speaker 1 I heard.

Speaker 1 I love it. Are you getting booked?

Speaker 1 Never say never.

Speaker 1 Harry Potter, obviously, sitting at the Heavenly Hulkster, has been quite a day.

Speaker 1 There's a time now in sports where we have the World Series tonight. Hey, we got the World Series on a Friday night.
And there's a chance this could be over. Could be over tonight.
I hope so. Why?

Speaker 1 They basically say baseball in London is kind of like a big pile of shits, shits, if you will. What? No, nobody likes the baseball.

Speaker 1 We see it as kind of a poor man sport. No, it's a great sport.

Speaker 1 That's what they say, but

Speaker 1 I didn't hear Heavenly Hulk Hoax to mention too much baseball aside from Peppa with Jackie Robinson. Not a full baseball game.
He was watching, obviously, Lamar Jackson last night, Return of Mine.

Speaker 1 We appreciate that. How could you not? But I have found myself, ladies and gentlemen, local sports and weather reporter Edward Simpson.
No relation to OJ or Bart, Homer, Lisa, Maggie, and Ilk. Sure.

Speaker 1 Baseball has actually been very watchable. Very watchable.
Very watchable. And I don't know, you know, we've covered the entirety of baseball trying to evolve into the modern era.

Speaker 1 Obviously, we've covered sports longer than we know more than everybody about it because we've seen it, we've lived it, we've done it.

Speaker 2 We know. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Brother. Sure, brother.
But baseball has tried to make more rules. Okay.
They've tried to make more rules to make the game more

Speaker 1 watchable, we'll say. Pitch clock, obviously getting things down quicker.
Feels like there's a little bit more of an explosion.

Speaker 1 I've heard now, we've heard that umps will potentially give a little bit of a bigger strike zone to people so that entices hitters to swing. Like, hey, we need you to swing a little bit.

Speaker 1 We need to go ahead and get this game going, which we respect immensely. And then superstars that are global sensations who are talked about as being great in the biggest moments have shown up.
Okay.

Speaker 1 All year. Aaron Judge, all rise.
This guy's 6'7 ⁇ , captain captain of the Yankees, handsome, incredibly cool. Everything about him oozes.

Speaker 1 Superstar, megastar in New York City as well, New Jersey, New York City area. You get it, and that entire thing.
And he showed up and delivered. MVP like year.

Speaker 1 Cal Raleigh, storyline out of nowhere, this catcher who hits from both sides of the plate. Huge ass.

Speaker 1 Huge ass.

Speaker 1 I mean, this guy's got a big dumper. Okay, that's what this guy has.
He hits dung shots out there, do something that, you know, really hasn't happened in forever.

Speaker 1 And then this character right here, Shohei Otani is unbelievable. Pitcher, hitter, highest paid guy.

Speaker 1 He's going to pay like $700 million or something deferred over the next 25 years, has everybody pissed off about everything, and has the entire country of Japan staying up crazy hours to watch what's happening in MLB because this guy is so damn special.

Speaker 1 And then you look on the other side with Toronto, this team, they got a 5'8 guy. Okay, playing catcher.
Kirk is his last name.

Speaker 1 And he looks like he should be hanging out with us up on the stage right now. He looks like he should be hanging out in a think tank with us.

Speaker 1 And this guy's hitting bombs, big old ding-dongs in the World Series. And then Vladi Daddy, duh.

Speaker 1 Yes, he's loose. Okay, this guy, huge moments has shown up and delivered.

Speaker 1 So whenever baseball is on right now, and let alone the 18-inning game, let alone everything else that has taken place, baseball has delivered, I think, Edward Simpson.

Speaker 1 Do you not agree in that notion?

Speaker 2 I agree completely. I mean, it's like the high-paid Dodgers squad with all the superstars.
Those guys are playing well, but the what, Toronto? Are they the what do you, the little engine that could?

Speaker 2 Is that how people look at them?

Speaker 1 Like, we play small ball.

Speaker 2 No, see, that's what I'm saying. Like, they actually pay guys, but I guess we, as Americans, don't know as much.
I wonder, Heavenly Hulk, who's going to win tonight?

Speaker 2 I would assume the Dodgers, they've got to get a win tonight. Do we know who's pitching?

Speaker 1 Yeah, so it's going to be Yoshidobu Yamamoto, one of my favorite dudes. He can just absolutely hurl that.
He's got a lot of history in Japan. Yeah, obviously, Ichibon Hulk.

Speaker 1 I can't confirm this, but I'm under the impression, or people have said that both Shoei Otani and Yoshinobu, Yamamoto, both had Ichibon Hulkster posters in their room growing up. Wouldn't doubt it.

Speaker 1 So it's going to be Yamamoto against Kevin Gossman, who is kind of the ace for the Blue Jays. As of right now, what Yamamoto? He is just sliced through this Blue Jays lineup.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but Heavenly Hulkster, someone sitting in a similar chair the other night after the 18-inning game said, do Toronto Blue Jays have any chance at winning this thing? They have.

Speaker 1 They certainly have. This Toronto Blue Jays team's for real, aren't they, Heavenly Hulkster? And they could put it away tonight in Toronto? Yeah, they could.
They could win a World Series

Speaker 1 in Toronto tonight. Their first one since 1993.
This Blue Jays team is just relentless, brother. You know, it doesn't matter how many chips you stack against them.

Speaker 1 Everybody's thinking after that 18-inning game, you lose in horrific fashion. And that uh-oh, Shohei's on the bump the next night.
What do they do? We don't give a shit. We'll care.

Speaker 1 Okay, Shohei, we're gonna bomb his ass, and we're also gonna strike him out three times. And that's exactly what they did.
They won a big game, and then what do they do? They steal another one in LA.

Speaker 1 The big bad man, the big bad acquisition, Blake Snell, who actually post-game after getting kind of rocked, said, you know, they didn't really... They didn't really get to me.

Speaker 1 Sometimes luck plays into it. Well, Blake, when you throw two fastballs right down the fucking middle, two onto the first three pitches of the game, these guys get paid too.

Speaker 1 Vladimir Guerrero just signed like a $450 million contract before the year. Those kind of guys, guess what they could do? They can hit fastballs down the middle.
They can ambush you.

Speaker 1 They can jump you, which is what Yoshidobu Yamamoto is going to have to remember tonight. MLB is about to take their pennant, their championship to Canada.
I thought this was America's pastime.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's one thing that the Hulkster is still having a real tough time getting over.

Speaker 1 I'll be honest with you, I'm having a tough time. So what did I do? I said, you know what, I got to go into the 26-man roster.

Speaker 1 I got to look at every single one of these guys and figure out where they're from. Well and behold, not a whole lot of Canadians out there.

Speaker 1 A lot of guys from the U.S., a lot of guys from the Dominican Republic. We mentioned, you know, Alejandro Kirk.
He's obviously from Mexico. But yeah,

Speaker 1 you got to give the slight edge to the Dodgers tonight because Yamamoto's been unbelievable. But I tell you what, don't let these Blue Jays get hot.
Hey, they're already hot, brother.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it feels like there's really good baseball happening, Edward Simpson, from what Hulkster just said. How do you lean, ES? How do you lean tonight?

Speaker 2 I got Yamamoto, two complete games in these back-to-back. Yeah, back-to-back complete games.

Speaker 2 Bam, let's make it a three. Let's make it three in a row.
Let's do it.

Speaker 1 That's highly unlikely, but I like where your heads are.

Speaker 1 You're saying they win tonight. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I also believe the Dodgers will win tonight's cape. You think the Dodgers will win tonight? Yeah, I believe this one's going seven.
He thinks that Toronto's winning tonight.

Speaker 2 No, I think Dodgers. Yamamoto.
Yeah, I think Yamamoto gets it done.

Speaker 1 Oh, I misheard you. That's 100% of me.
I thought you were saying that you think that Toronto is going to be able to... I don't know, man.

Speaker 2 I think we need a game seven.

Speaker 1 This has been a game.

Speaker 2 We need game seven.

Speaker 1 Okay, so we need to put into this universe that we're living in. And apparently it works because you've seen the other side and now you're doing it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, not well, with everything that's going on right now with that kind of stuff, I don't want to say I know what's going to happen. But yeah, let's just say I know what's going to happen tonight.

Speaker 1 We'll see. If you maybe want to bet, I don't know, Dodgers catcher Will Smith to hit a homer.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Maybe you do that. How about this? Universe ball? Well,

Speaker 1 heavenly ball. Okay, sure.

Speaker 1 Oh, I couldn't get over there quick enough. I was going to guide it.
Damn, you're made.

Speaker 1 I'll try.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. Hulkster doesn't got the same moves he used to.
See?

Speaker 1 Oh, no, no, this is the one you're going to get to. Okay.
This one's the one. No, no, this is all you.

Speaker 1 Why didn't you help me, Hulkster? Well, I thought you were going to make it, dude. What do you mean?

Speaker 1 Unbelievable. World Series heading back to Toronto.
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Speaker 1 Is that like 3,500 loonies?

Speaker 1 Yeah, actually, I think so. And then I think it would be 800 and

Speaker 1 19

Speaker 1 toonies. Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I believe if I'm trying to put together the math here from back in the day, trying to understand what loonies and toonies kind of remind myself what it is, you used to flip these coins.

Speaker 1 That's one bucket. That's two books.
But if we're depending upon where Canada in America is finance-wise, how much the dollar is, that toonie was also sometimes like $275e.

Speaker 1 You know, in America, you know, it was a little bit worth more.

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Speaker 1 yeah all the time kind of you know it's like basically safe deal you know you ask someone to spell ichi bond hogan and uh guess what they're not spelling that right too often yeah i understand all right let's talk about some uh storylines happening around the nfl patrick Mahomes is talking about their game with the Buffalo Bills.

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Patrick Mahomes, chit-chatting about how big it is.

Speaker 15 I mean, they don't like us. I mean, that's pretty.

Speaker 15 They do not like the Chiefs. But, I mean, it is a cool environment.
I love playing in, like, historic stadiums. And that stadium has had so many great players play in it.

Speaker 15 And who knows, it might be the last time that we get the opportunity to play there.

Speaker 15 And

Speaker 15 it'll be a great challenge for us. And they're loud.
And that's what you want. You want to go in and be in a hostile environment.

Speaker 15 That's what football, when you watch on TV as a kid growing up, is the environment you want to play in.

Speaker 15 And so, obviously, they're not rooting for us, but you get to bond together as a team and get to go into a historic stadium and play in a great environment.

Speaker 1 Love everything about that. That's not wizardry, Harry.
That's real. Feels like they understand this is an actual rivalry of the modern era.
Yeah, not me, not Josh Allen.

Speaker 1 Patrick Mahomes is the leader of the league, if you will. However, this does feel as though the Chiefs, the Kansas City, the the Swifties, the the Kelseys,

Speaker 1 they tend to lose the games that don't matter as much like in the regular season. They've already lost a few, haven't they? I mean,

Speaker 1 specifically against the the Bills. Josh Allen now more than a football player, which I love.
Uh, it seems as though Mahomes and the Chiefs may may let the Bills have this must-win.

Speaker 1 And I always look forward to what Sean McDermott says in his pregame speeches. It it always seems to rub people the right way, and he seems to be a Slytherin more than a Gryffindor, if you will.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so I don't know if it's the pregame speeches or team meeting speeches that you're referring to, but Sean McDermott obviously has that Buffalo Bills team back in contention, always going to, we all assume, with Josh Allen.

Speaker 1 What are your thoughts on it, Edward Simpson East 28? Also, what are your thoughts on Patrick Mahomes openly saying like, yeah, Chiefs, Bills, this is a real thing. We understand it's a real thing.

Speaker 1 We appreciate that it's a real thing. They've changed rules because of our games.
They're looking at the future of the NFL and what blueprints a player should look look like from our games.

Speaker 1 What are your thoughts on him acknowledging that as a whole and the game, AJ?

Speaker 2 I love how Patrick Mahomes is handling it, letting them know, like, this is a real rivalry game. They don't like us, and I'm sure the Chiefs don't like them.
But that's what it is.

Speaker 2 That's what these games are all about. But as the Harry Potter gentleman, I'm forgetting Dumbledorf said earlier, whatever his name is.

Speaker 2 Whichever one you are, I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 There you go, Mr. Harry.

Speaker 2 Sometimes it does happen, right, where the Chiefs lose these games and then they win it when it matters most in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Did you see

Speaker 1 in the NHL, we had a magical story the other night? Marshi

Speaker 1 goes back to Nova Scotia to coach for his friend JP, who he grew up playing hockey alongside.

Speaker 1 He went back and coached his junior team because the coach, JP, had to mourn the passing of his 10-year-old daughter from cancer.

Speaker 1 So Marshi took a leave of absence from the Panthers to go up there to do that for his friend. Obviously feel-good magical moment.
But also, this dude is exactly who we all hope he is.

Speaker 1 This guy is awesome. This guy is incredible.
He showcases it. Shout out to hockey being like this.

Speaker 1 But also, shout out to sports for once again in very hard times kind of bringing people together, Conman. What else did I miss in this story that is obviously incredibly feel-good and awesome?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm definitely going to drop the English accent because I really do want to talk about this and be able to. Marshan, I believe, owns or at least donated to this team.

Speaker 1 The team itself is called the Marshannon Mill Company Hunters. It's the U-18 team.
I mean, this made me emotional. This is kind of the thing that, you know, sports brings out in people.

Speaker 1 I think it's kind of the best of everything, not just Martian, like even the Florida Panthers understanding like, hey, you need, like, this is much more important to go and do.

Speaker 1 And like him being on the bench, I mean, just putting yourself in the, in the position of, you know, Brad Martin's best friend. Hey, this guy just won a Stanley Cup.

Speaker 1 They're going, you know, they're trying to get another one, but he's deciding to be here. Putting yourself in the position of those kids.
Like, man,

Speaker 1 we kind of thought that maybe we weren't going to play hockey for a little bit, even though, you know, U18, that's very important hockey, especially for those kids in Canada.

Speaker 1 And, you know, Brad Marchand now is the guy that we're coming off the ice to see. It's just, it's amazing, and it's just what makes Brad Marchand such a special person.

Speaker 1 Taking that moment from what could be obviously incredibly devastating for all parties there. Teams get very tight.

Speaker 1 Hockey teams, obviously, we're not talking about anything anybody doesn't already understand. But now it's like a story in a moment forever.
Marshi came and coached the boys.

Speaker 1 Like the boys now, they had to go through something very devastating with their coach. He's potentially away in the middle of a season.

Speaker 1 Obviously, that can rally and gather and round everybody up and get them closer and tighter.

Speaker 1 But now also add in a part of the story, one of the greatest hockey players of all time from the area coming back and lending a helping hand to a brother. I mean, it's a beautiful thing, Ed.

Speaker 1 It really is a beautiful thing, AJ.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and I think hockey, hockey kind of has that brotherhood that some sports may not be, it might not be as tight. And think about it, as professional sports, professional athletes.

Speaker 2 Game week, like they're in season. Yeah.
To leave in season, that people don't realize how big of a deal that truly is.

Speaker 2 So yeah, Bill Zito and the boys over there understanding and for Marshi to do this.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think it's something those kids will remember forever and as well as his best friend will remember till he dies.

Speaker 1 It's also a good act for people to see like, hey, this is how friends.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And there's things that are more important in sports too at times for some people.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Like even just thinking about the guys on the Panthers.

Speaker 1 You know, I'm sure there's younger guys who are just thinking, you know, just as far as perspective goes, like, they're probably just trying to earn their way through the NHL.

Speaker 1 And then having a guy like Brad Marshan, who's a a leader of your team, you just mentioned with the Panthers, kind of show you, like, yes, of course, this stuff is important.

Speaker 1 This is our profession, but like there are things that are much bigger.

Speaker 1 And like being able to go and do something like that, like shout out Bill Zito and all like Paul Maurice, their coach, like everyone just telling Brad basically, yeah, get out of here.

Speaker 1 Sports are the greatest. The greatest.
Sports are the greatest.

Speaker 1 Speaking of the greatest, ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is the greatest of all time whenever it comes to coaching college football.

Speaker 1 Friend of the program, host of College Game Day, ladies and gentlemen, future Hall of Famer in every Hall of Fame that exists, including business and birthday boy. Coach Nick Savior.

Speaker 1 Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 11 What's going on, bro? You guys look marvelous.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Coach. We didn't know if you were going to potentially dress up, but if I could dress up like the greatest of all time every day, I would.

Speaker 1 So I appreciate you looking in the mirror and saying, this is exactly what we need. Happy birthday

Speaker 1 to you.

Speaker 1 Happy birthday

Speaker 1 to

Speaker 1 you, bro.

Speaker 1 Happy birthday,

Speaker 1 dear coach.

Speaker 1 Happy birthday

Speaker 1 to

Speaker 1 you.

Speaker 1 Happy birthday, coach.

Speaker 11 I appreciate it. You guys look great, but you sing like shit.

Speaker 1 Well, well, Coach, that says ears. You got those old ass ears.
That's your old ass ears.

Speaker 1 You don't hear the cleansiness of our voices we appreciate you hey gonna be easier to shoot your age huh gonna be easier to shoot your age now that's one good factor

Speaker 1 a lot of good factors for us i want to let you know we're thankful that you have the best year that you've ever had in the history of your life coming up this upcoming year and we're going to be a chance to be a part of it and watch it you're a good dude man great dude and the way you treat everybody and the way that you kind of speak about everything is how everybody wishes that the people around them would speak you're a legend that's why everybody says you should be the president of the united states happy birthday from one old-ass man to another.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Yeah, coach.

Speaker 11 I appreciate it, man. Thank you so much.
It means a lot. And, you know, you got to have a lot of gratitude for the things that you have, but nothing's more important than relationships.

Speaker 11 And I do appreciate the relationships that we've developed, you and I, as well as I enjoy so much being on this show with these guys.

Speaker 1 Do you have lucky to have you? Let's talk about where you're at right now. You're over in Utah.
We'll catch up with you tonight. I can't wait to go trick-or-treating with my daughter.

Speaker 11 I can't wait to see you. Well, I think that's wonderful that you're able to do that.
Amen. First time she really kind of knows what's happening.

Speaker 11 And it's good that you can spend it with her.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I am so pumped. So I'll come catch up with you.
On that note, excited to be out there. Were you there the last time that Game Day was there?

Speaker 1 Their fans and their like alumni showed up in a huge way out there. And they have the mighty Utah student section.
They're favored by 10 and a half.

Speaker 1 What are your thoughts early here on being out in Utah and what this team presents for the Cincinnati team?

Speaker 11 Well, I was not here the last time we had it here,

Speaker 11 but I will say this is a beautiful part of the country.

Speaker 11 But I think this is, you know, I've liked Utah's team all year. You know, they play good defense.
They're physical. They're tough.
They kind of play old-fashioned football.

Speaker 11 This backup quarterback did a marvelous job for them, you know, last week against Colorado.

Speaker 11 But I tell you what, Cincinnati is sneaky good with the quarterback that they have.

Speaker 11 Now, I know their running back has hurt for this game prior, but they've had great balance, and I like the Cincinnati team. If they can play good enough defense, I think these guys may be for real.

Speaker 1 10 and a half is the spread. Cincinnati has been hot.
They lose week one to Nebraska in a neutral site game. Everybody rules them out now.
Game day, Big 12 still very much in their sights.

Speaker 1 Let's talk about another game happening this weekend. Edward Simpson, no relation to OJ or Bart has a question for you, Coach.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Coach, Oklahoma's playing Tennessee Saturday night, 7.30 p.m. Eastern.
I guess, how do you see this game going?

Speaker 2 A lot of hype, obviously, neither team can afford to lose right now with two losses, each of them. But how do you think this game is?

Speaker 11 I really like Tennessee in this game. I mean,

Speaker 11 they've got one of the leading offensive teams in the country when it comes to scoring points. They're difficult to defend.
They've got a good offensive line. They can run the ball.

Speaker 11 And, you know, Oklahoma's got a great defense, one of the best in the country. But I think when you spread them out like this, it's going to be more difficult for them, especially playing on the road.

Speaker 11 And, you know, to me, the issue for Oklahoma is, are they going to be able to score enough points in this game?

Speaker 11 Because they've been struggling on offense a little bit since, you know, John Matier came back from, you know, breaking his hand, which is, you know, I mean, it's understandable.

Speaker 11 You know, the guy's playing hurt and he's playing quarterback. It's harder to spin it.
But if he plays well, they'll have a chance.

Speaker 1 But I just think Tennessee is going to be hard to beat relative to the points that they score but tennessee struggled on defense too so they're going to have to outscore them yeah tennessee you know we've seen the greatness of them and then obviously they're not perfect so in college that can get exposed literally any weekend and then oklahoma i've been waiting on i've been waiting on be back because i had so much hope for them at the beginning the hand you're right i mean that's very understandable that it's potentially slowed them down a little bit but it definitely has let's talk about another team that's on a run right now undefeated go ahead con man yeah coach i'll go back to my english accent after this but you're old as shit, and I don't want you to misunderstand me.

Speaker 1 Texas AM.

Speaker 1 Happy birthday. Happy birthday, Coach.
Happy birthday, coach. And oh man, I was going to drop a D's nuts on you, but I won't.
Texas AM and Mike Elko seem to have turned that thing around completely.

Speaker 1 They're basically now, I mean, it's hard to argue that they're not the best team in the country. What do you think about the job they've done? And how about this quarterback?

Speaker 1 You know, he really wasn't up there for Heisman odds, and now it feels like he damn near might run away with it.

Speaker 11 Well, he's playing great. And I would say the two teams at this point in the season that's kind of separated themselves from the pack to me is Ohio State and Texas A ⁇ M.

Speaker 11 And, you know, Marcel Reed has been a big part of that.

Speaker 11 But, you know, I think this guy has got special talents, man. He's improved as a passer.
He's got better receivers. He's got better skill guys.
to play with them outside.

Speaker 11 They can run the ball a little bit. And this guy can beat you with his feet.
So

Speaker 11 this guy is, I mean, unbelievable talented athlete.

Speaker 11 I mean, when you talk about this guy playing basketball and what a good basketball player he was, I mean, and you know, they've got the skill guys now. There you go.

Speaker 11 Punt returned for a touchdown against LSU. So

Speaker 11 I think this is a really, really good team.

Speaker 1 Can you tell me, did you recruit Marcel? Did you know, is that why you, did you see him play basketball?

Speaker 1 Or did you just, you've heard through the coaching ladder about the incredibly athletic Marcel Reed, who now has seemingly figured it out in all facets.

Speaker 11 Yeah, well, I did not see him play basketball in high school. I saw some clips on him playing basketball, and I'm saying, wow, this guy's a player.

Speaker 11 But this guy reminds me of somebody that plays for the Baltimore Ravens that

Speaker 11 has, you know, turned the National Football League upside down for. you know, several years now.
And I think this guy's got the same kind of qualities.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you saw the stop right before the touchdown literally takes us back to Lamar from high school. You know, that exact play.
Now, granted, his was on the sideline.

Speaker 1 His was in the middle of the field. Marcel's special.
He's in. Hey, Heisman conversation is very real.
You talked about Texas A ⁇ M and Ohio State separating themselves.

Speaker 1 I think everybody in Indiana would say, well, hey,

Speaker 1 hey, hey.

Speaker 1 That's what everybody in Indiana would say.

Speaker 11 I should have known better.

Speaker 1 Obviously could bring a little bit of heat. You talked about Marcel Reed and that Texas A ⁇ M team.
They get a huge win over LSU. So big, actually, it draws draws some change.

Speaker 1 Governor Jeff Landry is even talking about it. Now at this point, it's become national talking point about what's going on down there at LSU.
Go ahead, Coach Cower.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Coach, from one coach to another, everything that's going on down at LSU, they do not have an AD right now. They do not have a president right now.

Speaker 3 And Governor Jeff Landry is talking about the coach is going to have to have a prove it contract. Is LSU doing themselves any favor in this coaching carousel?

Speaker 3 Are they scaring coaches away potentially?

Speaker 11 Well, you know, I think, you know, one of the things that is really important now in college football, and let me make a comparison for you.

Speaker 11 You know, in the NFL, everything's vertically integrated in one building.

Speaker 11 In other words, the rules are clearly defined by the league as to what you can and can't do, whether it's salary cap, contracts, whatever it is.

Speaker 11 And you either succeed or fail based on what happens in the building from, you know, the owner to the GM to the coaches to the personnel folks to the player. College is just kind of the opposite.

Speaker 11 Everything's happening externally, not internally like it is in the NFL.

Speaker 11 So you got all these external factors that are constantly changing, whether it's transfer portal, how much you can pay guys, revenue sharing,

Speaker 11 you know,

Speaker 11 what kind of collective do you have? So traditionally, how have you been able to adapt to that?

Speaker 11 And my point about tradition is some of the traditional jobs like LSU that people always looked at as one of the best jobs, have they adapted to all these things like they need to to be able to continue to be one of the best jobs in the country?

Speaker 11 And I think that's why you see Bandy, Indiana, places who have not historically been traditionally great jobs actually having a lot of success now because they have managed the external factors very well to bring it in-house so that they can function effectively.

Speaker 11 So what's to say LSU, Florida, they're traditionally the best jobs, but are they the best jobs now, relatively speaking, based on how they've adapted to the external circumstances that really affect your ability to be successful in college football?

Speaker 1 Okay, so on that note, people quote you whenever they say why LSU is such a good job.

Speaker 1 They say, I believe the greatest college football coach of all time is quoted on the record as saying, five stars fall out of trees in Louisiana. Like that is literally what happens down there.

Speaker 1 So if you're able to just recruit the state, you'll be able to win. What you're saying is recruiting any state right now requires some things that a lot of other schools potentially have more of.

Speaker 1 Is that kind of what you are referring to right now?

Speaker 11 Yeah, I think, you know, I can't give you any statistical facts on this, but is regional recruiting as effective as it once was?

Speaker 11 You know, I've also made the statement that kids in Louisiana grew up wanting to go to LSU. Kids in Alabama grew up wanting to go to Alabama.
Well, some of those kids are going to Ohio State because

Speaker 11 they're getting paid more. And it becomes a little bit more about money than it does about regional alliance in terms.
And you can't blame the kids for it. I'm not, don't want you to think that.
No.

Speaker 11 But

Speaker 11 so at the same time, I'm saying if you don't have those resources, You know, it used to be about program facilities, how can you develop players? How can you create value for their future?

Speaker 11 Well, how can you create create value for them right now is what's changed in college football and how have you adapted to that?

Speaker 1 Yeah, and if you don't do it every day, we got options. Lane Kiffin came on and chit-chatted about pre-portaling, basically, where you have one good game.

Speaker 1 There's like three schools that are calling at night. Somebody obviously not directly associated, but hey, if you were maybe portal, we got about 120,000 M ⁇ Ms.

Speaker 1 You know, if you need that, that's happening at all times.

Speaker 1 So it feels like the business aspect of decision-making is starting much earlier, as opposed to the regional, territorial, I would like to be in this area conversation.

Speaker 1 I think, I don't know how you're going to stat that. I assume there will be a good stat at some point that kind of depicts that.
I mean, I go back to Quinn Ewers, even.

Speaker 1 That was at the beginning of this NIO era. He's like Texas Longhorn through and through.
Texas kid wanted to be Texas. I think he was committed to Texas, but couldn't get paid.

Speaker 1 So he went to Ohio State to get paid. Went to Ohio State because he could get paid there.

Speaker 1 Then he came back to Texas, even though he wanted to be a Texas Longhorn all along, had to go somewhere else to kind of get the money.

Speaker 1 I do wonder what that means for LSU, because they're ranking the job like LSUs.

Speaker 11 But to your point, I think that's a great strategy.

Speaker 11 If you're in a place that historically has a lot of good players coming out of high school, if that guy went to another school, I would track that guy's career like from day one because eventually Get him back.

Speaker 11 Bring him back. If you lose him the first time, get him the second time.
And you might be better off because he might have developed a little better and he might be more ready to play, more mature.

Speaker 11 So I would definitely do that. And I think that's definitely something LSU should be doing, just like Texas has done it.

Speaker 1 Boy, I haven't even thought about, can't be burning bridges during this recruiting process because guess who's going to be available maybe in two weeks? Who's that? That guy.

Speaker 1 That player might not be happy where he's at. Is it sustainable? You know, that's kind of the question.
Is it all sustainable? We shall see.

Speaker 1 There's a video of Kalen DeBoer after the game where one of their players, I think it was number 12.

Speaker 1 I forget if it was offense or defense, but a South Carolina coach went up to him and was kind of talking to him. And Kalen DeBoer kind of yanked him away.
Like, hey, come on. We just won the game.

Speaker 1 Let's get out of here. Interesting time in college football.
AJ Ellison and his Edward Simpson has a question for you, coach.

Speaker 2 Yeah, coach, I don't know if you got a chance to see the game last night. Ravens played the Dolphins.
We got to see your old QB too.

Speaker 2 Obviously, the Dolphins are battling. They're trying to figure things out.
I guess when you look at them,

Speaker 1 what can they do?

Speaker 2 Like, what can you do at this point in the season? You're in the NFL and you're struggling. You have two wins right now.
How do you handle that day in and day out?

Speaker 1 They fire GM this morning.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and they fired the GM. Like, what do you do if you're the head coach when you walk into that team meeting every day?

Speaker 11 It's hard. You know, I went through that in Cleveland.

Speaker 11 You know, in 93, we were 5-2.

Speaker 11 We cut some players at bye week

Speaker 11 after being 5-2. And we went 2-7 the rest of the way.
And it was a little bit of a mutiny in the building.

Speaker 11 But the one thing that pro players can do and can think of to keep things going is they need to play well to extend their career and to see how much money they can make.

Speaker 11 So winning and losing doesn't necessarily determine that. So if they keep performing well, they're still creating value for themselves.

Speaker 11 And I think that's important for pro players to take advantage of, even if you're not on a winning team. But I think the Dolphins,

Speaker 11 you know, I have a house in Florida, so a lot of people ask me, what's wrong with the Dolphins? And I can't really answer that question completely.

Speaker 11 Obviously, they've had some injuries that could affect that, but they haven't played great on defense and they haven't scored a lot of points. So they have lots of issues.

Speaker 11 And I didn't know they fired Chris Greer.

Speaker 1 This morning, yeah.

Speaker 11 Well, he's one of my favorites. You know, he was a scout there when I was the head coach many, many years ago.
And I think Chris Greer does a really, really good job.

Speaker 11 But I guess, you know, when you look at the product on the field,

Speaker 11 personnel has to do something about it and be responsible for it to some degree. And the coaches have to be responsible for how do they develop it.
So,

Speaker 11 and everybody's got to make those decisions internally, I guess.

Speaker 1 Gumpy just heard what you said and in the moment, pretty emotional, threw up. You know, he was happy to move along just because Dolphins fans feel like they've been in purgatory throughout entirety.

Speaker 1 But it wasn't that long ago that this roster, this money, was like the hottest thing in the NFL. And now, you know, it's the complete opposite of that.

Speaker 1 And Lamar Jackson comes back to town and does his thing against him. Tua, interesting situation, because you talk about having good tape.
You know, like, hey, put good tape out there.

Speaker 1 It doesn't matter if we're going to the playoffs. Like, some teams have a 2% chance to make the playoffs.
They kind of understand what the situation is.

Speaker 1 But OGs tell them, like, hey, this is either where you keep your job or maybe make some more money. People are watching this shit.

Speaker 1 This isn't just just like fans being upset about us not having a hope. This is all like a tryout.
You know, they talk about preseason. This is real shit here.

Speaker 1 So if you can do good tape, that's why whenever they say like people are tanking for somebody, it's like players aren't. Players aren't putting shitty tape out there.
Like that ain't players.

Speaker 1 And now, are there schemes being called?

Speaker 1 Are there people not being dressed maybe? Are those things happening? Potentially. Maybe that is happening with teams.
I'm not going to rule it out because I am an open-minded individual.

Speaker 1 But like when we were in the suck for luck campaign, everybody was saying, it was like, I wasn't trying to shank balls. You're right.
I would have got fired.

Speaker 1 The offensive line's not trying to give up sacks to whoever is playing quarterback that year because they want to keep a job. So interesting dynamic that the Miami Dolphins are now staring down.

Speaker 1 Good for you, Gumpy.

Speaker 1 What, dude?

Speaker 4 James is good. It's been too long.

Speaker 1 Hey, Chris Greer, good guy.

Speaker 4 He was a good guy, just wasn't good at his job at the end.

Speaker 1 At the end.

Speaker 4 At the end. He was good at the start.
He made some good moves at the start. This last dog.
Players got a lot of trouble.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. Well, that's like Coach McCarthy.
Coach McCarthy goes, well, these players got to execute as well, which is always like the coach's angle. It's true, though, that it is part of it.

Speaker 2 I agree. It's definitely part of it.
Like,

Speaker 2 if you feel like you have the right players, they should be able to execute the scheme. If they can't, that's probably, I don't know, you're giving too much to them.

Speaker 1 That's why there's always this whenever like draft hype happens, because the personnel department says, this guy's got a lot of potential. And then it's the coach's job to build him up.

Speaker 1 Well, if he never makes it, who cares if he was maybe just a bus? This coach should have been better because the GM saw something in him. And this coach obviously didn't make it happen.

Speaker 1 But maybe the player is just ass. And that's what coaches say after they're getting fired.
They're saying, well,

Speaker 1 that's kind of the circle, isn't it, Coach? Personnel people have these visions. Coaches are supposed to make it happen.
If you don't make it happen, definitely on you.

Speaker 1 And if the whole team is ass and they think everything's bad, well, you put the entire team together. You got to get out of here.
I feel like that's kind of the natural thoughts about those positions.

Speaker 11 I think you're 100% correct in terms of, you know, you heard me say this before, is there's seven or eight teams in the NFL that have vertical integration from top to bottom.

Speaker 11 In other words, the personnel people are out there getting the kind of players that fit the system and the scheme that the coaches want to play.

Speaker 11 The coaches are able to develop those players because they're both, you know, in sync with each other in terms of what they're looking for, type of people, as well as, you know, physical characteristics, whether it's size, speed, critical factors to play a position.

Speaker 11 So they're getting people that fit what the coaches want, and the coaches coaches take that fit and make it work.

Speaker 11 So you have the same teams that seem to be successful kind of on a consistent basis, and then you have the same teams that seem to struggle because they don't have that alignment.

Speaker 11 Because if you have vertical integration, you don't have what you just talked about, which most of the teams have an issue with. Personnel, coaching, developing.

Speaker 16 So,

Speaker 11 look, I went through two years in Miami as a head coach. All right, the first year, we had vertical integration with the personnel, with,

Speaker 11 you know, right down to the coaches. The second year, we didn't, and we had a terrible draft, and the team went in the opposite direction.
So that's very, it's critical to being successful, I think.

Speaker 11 Everybody's got to be a team. Everybody's got to be together.
We can't be pointing fingers at why we picked this guy and he's not playing well.

Speaker 11 Everybody's got to be responsible and accountable for it. And you got to pick the right guy to start with.
It's no different than what I say about paying players in college.

Speaker 11 You play the wrong guys, you're shit out of luck. Draft the wrong guys, you're shit out of luck.

Speaker 1 That's life in general, I believe. And

Speaker 1 I appreciate every time you start speaking about any of this stuff because you're talking about vertical integration a lot.

Speaker 1 It's basically saying like, hey, everybody has to be seeing the same picture. Because if you're drafting a 3-4 player, we've got a 4-3 defense.
Like, what are you? Are we even... Are we even...
Well,

Speaker 1 he's going to have to play. He's going to have to drop back.
It's like, that's not. Why would you do that? That happens.

Speaker 1 And he talked about there's seven or eight teams that are kind of all aligned. There is actual situations where it's like, well, they'll make him fit in there.

Speaker 1 And it's like, how is this the highest level? How is this?

Speaker 2 You hired the wrong coach thing. You're out of luck too, right? I mean, think about it.
If you bring the wrong guy in, sometimes it doesn't fit.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's pivot back to college football and talk about a team, you know, that's had an interesting season. Go ahead, heavenly hulkster.
Yeah, coach, this weekend, we got Bandy in Texas, dude.

Speaker 1 And, you know, as of right now, Arch Bandy is a game-time decision. And in the NFL, at least, I think he believes concussion.
That's been a two-week injury. Now, I haven't perused the injury report.

Speaker 1 I don't know if he's playing or not. But when you look at this game, how do you see this one going? How big of a difference will it be for Texas if Arch Manning doesn't play?

Speaker 1 Obviously, they still got some five-star guy behind him. So it's not like the end of the world.
But how do you see this one shaking up, brother?

Speaker 11 Nothing. You know, Vanderbilt, you got to give them a lot of credit for how they played last week because, you know, Diego did not have a great game.
They were still able to score enough points.

Speaker 11 They were able to play good enough defense.

Speaker 11 And, you know, it just seems like Texas has struggled a little bit to get any kind of rhythm going on offense for whatever reasons.

Speaker 11 And I don't know what, that's the question I'd love to ask Sark, you know, tomorrow when he's on the show is, you know, what needs to be fixed? Is it the offensive line?

Speaker 11 Is it inability to run the ball? Inability to protect the passer? What are the issues here? But

Speaker 11 I tell you what, Clark Lee's done a really good job with that defense.

Speaker 11 And whatever the issue is with, you know, Texas's offense, they're going to try to expose him in the game by, you know, how they come after him. So it'll be interesting.

Speaker 11 I don't know enough about Texas's backup quarterback to really make a comment on how good the guy can play or will play.

Speaker 11 But I think it's going to be a game. And, you know, like Pat, you know, kind of put me on a spot last week, you know, in Nashville.

Speaker 11 So I had had to jump on the vanderbilt bandwagon joe and i really can't jump off yet okay i like that i like that you jumped on completely they give you a crown when you did that

Speaker 11 And you set it all up.

Speaker 1 No. And I appreciate it.
No, just they were booing you. And it was like, we got to address this here, brother.
Like, we got to, we have to address. This can't be the entire time.

Speaker 1 And the fact that in a 45-second period, it went from, they were going to boo every time you spoke. You know, that was the decision that they made.
And I didn't know that until they started doing it.

Speaker 1 And then I was like, yes, I love that they have done that. I enjoy that type of shit.
I like when a group of people come together and say, are we doing this? Yeah, we're doing this. Perfect.

Speaker 1 Let's drop it on them. But now we got to address that.
And then you being able to say, hey, listen, I was wrong. Because what's now is special.
And I agree with that.

Speaker 1 Don't you think after going game day there, it's special what they've been able to do.

Speaker 1 You mentioned it earlier about like Indiana and then Vanderbilt being able to be very good versus maybe some of these other perennial powerhouses that aren't as aligned or set up going forward.

Speaker 1 Vandy, their name's Vanderbilt, that family. They got a lot of money there.
I think it's possible to kind of go down there in Vanderbilt. Don't you think as well, Coach?

Speaker 1 Like for sustain, obviously Diego is the one that put the key into the ignition and ignited this entire thing.

Speaker 1 But I think it's sustainable if they're able to keep Clark and everything they're cooking, Coach.

Speaker 11 I do too.

Speaker 11 And, you know, they, they, I'm not going to say it on the air, but they have a significant amount of money in their collective, which I think they were able to get because Diego brought some success to the program.

Speaker 11 People could see the value and exposure that that gave the university and the program, and it's very beneficial. So

Speaker 11 they've made a commitment and it's showing and it's paying off. So

Speaker 11 kind of really interesting, but really good for college football.

Speaker 1 I think. Yeah, you can zoom out.

Speaker 11 Teams like Vanderbilt, Virginia, and Cincinnati, and people who have not historically been people that we talk about, we're now talking about them. And I think that's a good thing.

Speaker 1 Indiana didn't even have a football. They had a football team, but you know, they didn't even have a weight room.
Indiana was in the Big Ten. Football state.
Okay, this is a football state.

Speaker 1 Love football out here. Didn't even really have a football program.

Speaker 1 And then now with investment in the right people and the transfer portal, they got an impact stadium renovations in hope for the next 10 years for football. I think it's great for the sport.

Speaker 1 I think it's amazing, but we're going to find out the haves and the haves-nots. I mean, that is certainly going to come.

Speaker 1 You're going to have to get a group of dogs to kind of transform a place if you want to build it, but you can in this era. It's been proven.
Happy birthday, coach. We love you so much.

Speaker 1 I'll see you out in Utah.

Speaker 11 Appreciate it, man. Thank you so much.
I appreciate you guys. It's always a great experience to spend a little time with you on Friday.

Speaker 1 What's the age now?

Speaker 11 74. Dang.

Speaker 11 Just to put it out there, I used to get three a side. It's not based on handicap.
It's based on age. Now that I'm 74, I'm

Speaker 11 going to start getting four a side. Just makes sense to me.

Speaker 1 Yes, it does. And you're Nick Saban, so they don't like it.
They can get the fuck off the court. You're a man, ladies and gentlemen.
The coat. Coach Nick Saban, happy birthday, Coach.

Speaker 1 Happy birthday, Coach. Happy birthday, dude.
Happy birthday, dude. All right, before we get out of here, we'd like to showcase all of the costumes of the Thunderdome.
Obviously, you have AJ here.

Speaker 1 He is Edward Simpson. I think you've done a great job this time.
Great job, Paul.

Speaker 1 What was your inspiration? You said it was a group of people.

Speaker 2 A bunch of people, yeah, just nationwide people that I see on TV every single day.

Speaker 1 I love everything about the toxic table, obviously. Harry Potter, wonderful.
I didn't know much about Harry before today. Yeah, and there's a lot more to know, if you will.

Speaker 1 But again, you know, I tried to mention it with my question to Dano about Bart Simpson. But yes, it's very nice.
You should dive into Harry Potter. What's above the left eye there?

Speaker 1 It looks like something's on your head. Yeah, not the Mansons, actually.

Speaker 1 It's my scar. It's when I almost got murdered.
Yes, and my mother saved me and she got murdered. You do look like Harry Potter with those glasses.

Speaker 1 And then obviously, right next to you, Harry, we have, for the first time,

Speaker 1 ever, Heavenly Hulkster. Good to see you down here from heaven, Hulk.
Thank you, dude. Thank you for extending the advice.
Great to be back. You guys always, I love yucking it up with you fellas.

Speaker 1 And then with those things on, you can maybe come back whenever, right? Because St. Peter kind of said you're the one.
Yeah, whatever I want.

Speaker 1 I don't know if that applies to everybody up up in heaven dude but again me and saint peter are about as you know i thought jimmy hart was my guy forever and he is okay dude well i tell you i really like saint peter's good on his stick

Speaker 1 yeah brother he's he he's fucking holding court at the pearly gates when people come in provost oh yeah oh yeah like Like Jimmy, the mouth of the South? Like the mouth of the South. He's the mouth of.

Speaker 1 He's the mouth of heaven. He's the mouth of the Pearly gates.
You know, and guess what?

Speaker 1 If St. Peter doesn't like you, he's going to let you know right away.
Purgatory, bitch. See you soon.

Speaker 1 Or not. And he does that.
And that really kind of gets him going. But again, he told Hulkster.
He said, you know what, Hulker? Let me go find the baby.

Speaker 1 Now I've remembered it. I remember it.
I've been having so much fun up here. You go sometimes.
Things slip through the cracks.

Speaker 1 He said, Hey, Hulker, how about some 23-inch-wide wings wings for those 23-inch pythons you've got, dude?

Speaker 1 Again, regular heavenly nomenclature, you're looking at about a 16-to-18-inch wing.

Speaker 1 And yeah, the hulkster's got 23s to match his biceps. So the hulkster's doing just fine.
I'm happy St. Peter's taking care of you up there, Hulkster.
Love that, dude, man.

Speaker 1 How's the back? I know we asked you whenever you were here last time if you had any regrets at all throughout the entirety of your life.

Speaker 1 And with those 23-inch pythons you're talking about your answer was why was i doing a leg drop you know because the hips and the back took such a beating how are the heavenly hips and the heavenly back up there i feel better than i have really since i was running hot with nash and uh and shit can't scott hall scott hall thank you who coincidentally i'll play cards with every friday night uh but yeah you know i i i haven't felt that good since i was running hot with those guys back in la

Speaker 1 steper did mention that he said listen hulkster i hate to do this. I don't want to do this.
Did we ever think about maybe a sleeper hold instead of the leg drop? And I just said, St.

Speaker 1 Peter, you son of a bitch, come here, dude. And we kind of, you know, we greco-roaming a little bit, and that was the end of it.
But yeah, the Hulkster.

Speaker 1 I'm doing just fine, bro. Yeah, and we're doing just fine because I got to see you, obviously.
I hope to see you again.

Speaker 1 And then behind the glass, obviously, you got Hot Dog, Jackson, Dart, Tush Push, John, and old Florida Man. Thanks for showing up today, boys.
Hell yeah, brother.

Speaker 1 You think the tush-push fan is going to become like kind of a thing? Maybe ash cheeks on the head to save the play? Because it feels like everybody's against you guys. That play's not going anywhere.

Speaker 5 Nobody can stop it, not even the league.

Speaker 1 Rets don't stop it ever. That's kind of

Speaker 1 and then they try to stop it post-play. It's kind of a part of the problem with those ash cheeks on your head.
I just want to let you know that kind of a problem. Go birds.

Speaker 1 What if we always talk about Big Dom?

Speaker 1 You think they're going to pass a rule that he doesn't say is okay?

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. Big Dom's like, let me grab your pen there.

Speaker 2 i got your vote for you yeah they can kiss my ears

Speaker 1 all right john i appreciate that now in the think tank the boys that have been hanging obviously we have an incredible crew and their costumes delivered dirty graphic designer had his birthday just a few days ago dressed up as ladies and gentlemen

Speaker 1 frozone baby

Speaker 1 hey this was genius sir okay sir sir sir frozen it is an honor to meet you sir you're a big hey we're big fans how fashion looking good that's a great

Speaker 1 Yes. How you doing, dude? How you doing? Hey.
Good funsie. Good to see you.
How about that, Frozone?

Speaker 1 And he said it was good to see you, too. You guys are boys, right? Yeah, well, I just feel a little bit of animosity there.
I didn't know why, but yeah. Frozone's ready to race anybody.

Speaker 1 Ain't that right? All about the races. All the races.
All times, any race, anytime. That's what we're talking about, Frozone.
We appreciate you. You look good, brother.
Baby, Frozone.

Speaker 1 Baby, Frozone.

Speaker 1 Frozone,

Speaker 1 very good athlete, very fast. Did I see Frozone get caught? I think I saw it, right? Yeah, did not expect that out of him.
There had to be a worker. Had to be a worker.

Speaker 1 Frozone was just beating everybody, would beat everybody. We know that.

Speaker 1 Also, in the back room, a man who edits videos from being big to being TikTok size.

Speaker 1 His name's Talk because he doesn't talk much and he makes TikToks, but damn, is he talented? He's an Emmy Award winner. Taco!

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 talk!

Speaker 1 Taco! Oh,

Speaker 1 Taco Friday! Boy Talk.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 1 Too cool for school, huh, dude?

Speaker 1 He said you mailed it in. What?

Speaker 1 Walk your ass up here, did you? What would he be? No, you don't have to do that. You don't have to do that.
He said you mailed it in on the costume, though. He said glasses and the hat, not enough.

Speaker 1 That's what Hulkster said. I did say that.
They're booing you.

Speaker 1 Florida man's booing you in the back. I don't like it, though, Taco.
Disgusting. Hey, Taco, Taco, Taco.

Speaker 3 You're my taco.

Speaker 1 Thanks. Mutos Gracias, me amigo.
Good looking taco there. Even a little avocado on top.
Edward Simpson, your thoughts on taco?

Speaker 3 Thank you.

Speaker 3 That's you, Ed.

Speaker 1 That is me.

Speaker 1 Put your shoulders back a little bit, bud. He did it first.

Speaker 2 You got to own that costume, Todd. Put your shoulders back.
Walk with some pride.

Speaker 1 Yeah, be a meaty taco. Yeah, be a big beat.

Speaker 1 There it is. Can you get him flexed? I don't know if we have him on camera.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now from the depths of YouTube. Bailey McComas as a totally legit and not rigged poker dealer.
Thank you, Bailey.

Speaker 1 We appreciate you doing that. Good poker shirt, obviously.
Good visor. And we see the briefcase.
What does that mean? Yeah, it's just totally jip poker money. Okay, so it's chips.

Speaker 1 Yeah, of course, of course. And don't forget the poker slash sports betting gala.
It's going to be around 9 o'clock. Famous celebrities.
Won't say who, reliability, but you know.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right. Totally legit, he says.

Speaker 1 Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, from the audio department, he's a guy who is always lit, dude, and he's excited for the halftime performance. It's Mitt McMahon as Babbon.
Bat Bonnie.

Speaker 1 Bat Bonnie. Oh, Bat Bonnie.

Speaker 1 Gee, I like it. I like it, Bat Bonnie.
Can't wait to hear it. Bonito.

Speaker 1 Yeah, hey, you look good, buddy. Good luck in your Super Bowl halftime show.
A lot of people not happy. Maybe speak some English there, Sam.

Speaker 1 And ladies and gentlemen, last but not least, he's a D3 national champion.

Speaker 1 He was so excited to do this.

Speaker 1 D-Bone as Hardy. Hey, that's good.

Speaker 1 And last but not least, Hardy, can you make some space for Mickey Moss? Holy shit. Cito with the greatest costume I have ever seen.
Thank you, Mickey Moss. Yeah, all right.
Thank you, Mickey Moss.

Speaker 1 We'll see you on Monday. That's how we ended the show.

Speaker 1 Hey, that's how we ended the show. Hardy, real quick.
Will you come back? Will you come back, Hardy? That is good. That's how we ended the show.

Speaker 1 Unbelievable. Hardy, I think

Speaker 1 this is a really good effort. I think you should be very proud of yourself.
You're a massive big loud boy, aren't you? I mean, Hardy's kind of your guy.

Speaker 1 You won a contest on trying to guess what the order of his... How many songs?

Speaker 1 14. 14 song albums.
It didn't have an order out there. Let's go ahead and do a contest.
If one of these people can figure out what the exact order is of my songs, we'll give them two show tickets.

Speaker 1 There was one winner. Thousands and thousands of entries.
One winner. Because the odds of that, just absolutely absurd.

Speaker 1 Unless unless you can really feel the music, unless you can really see the story, ladies and gentlemen,

Speaker 1 Hardy here.

Speaker 1 Baby Hardy, boy, Hardy.

Speaker 1 Thank you, boys.

Speaker 1 Can we sing a song real quick? Absolutely. Oh, no.
Yep, this is what we're getting.

Speaker 1 I'm still the same old redneck fuck. Don't give a damn.
I'm ready to throw a dead buck on my Instagram. Craying alcohol in my cup.
Got the whole house. Woe to woe.

Speaker 1 Daylight sold out. Yeah, it could work, hey?

Speaker 1 really good. Not enough passion, I think, in the delivery.
No, definitely, that's. Because Hardy really puts on a show, but that's the difference between Halloween Hardy and Apple Hardy.
Good boy.

Speaker 1 Always watch the difference there. Hardy, great pen.

Speaker 1 Great pen.

Speaker 3 I'm surprised he didn't somehow work the Hardy Boys into the Hardy costume.

Speaker 1 He should have maybe half done it. And ladies and gentlemen, obviously, one half of the hammer

Speaker 1 Cowboys is dressed as Jinser Legend Hall of Famer Super Bowl champion, Coach Cower. Thank you for joining us today, Coach.

Speaker 3 It's a true honor to be here with you boys.

Speaker 1 How has it been? What did you have to do mentally to really attack today's show?

Speaker 3 Nothing. I just wake up, eat, breathe, and sleep football.
As I said before, coming here and talking football with you boys is what I was destined to do.

Speaker 3 Obviously, I feel good about being with you boys.

Speaker 3 We share

Speaker 3 the same iron in our blood from the three rivers.

Speaker 3 It's just a true honor to be here.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I like that you're putting a little spotlight on Coach Coward because as a fellow Yinser as well,

Speaker 1 we love that man. Ladies and gentlemen, please say hello to Hall of Fame Jenser, legend, Coach Bill Coward.
Yes!

Speaker 1 Coach, what are your thoughts? Immediate reaction, what are your thoughts?

Speaker 16 So, so, Tone, I guess that's my chin, huh?

Speaker 3 Yeah, well, see, the see the thing, Coach, is I don't have a chin. I learned that the other day when I shaved my beard, so I had to, you know, come up with this prosthetic.

Speaker 16 Yeah, I love the fact that we are from the same bloodlines, the three rivers that the convergence of the three rivers that landed in Three Rivers Stadium, that went to Heinzfield, that now sits in Zach Rashur.

Speaker 16 And we are playing the Indianapolis Colts this week, as you know. This is a reunion of the 2005 championship team.
So I'm going back there this afternoon. I'm going to be with the boys tonight.

Speaker 16 I'm going to give them a talk tomorrow. Ben's going to pick me up for the go-to walkthrough to hopefully get a picture with A-Rod and Mike, myself, and Ben.

Speaker 16 That was a pretty remarkable game, Pat. I don't know if you remember that game in 2005.

Speaker 1 Let's talk about it.

Speaker 11 Okay.

Speaker 16 I remember.

Speaker 16 Go ahead.

Speaker 16 It was a game. You always say there's ebb and flow in every game.
We came out and got off to an early start.

Speaker 16 At one point in the third, fourth quarter, we actually sacked Peyton three consecutive times. We had problems with the protection at that time.

Speaker 16 All we had to do at that point up by three was basically, I didn't want to just sit on it because you would have enough time. So we'd hand the ball to Jerome.

Speaker 16 And Jerome, who has never fumbled all year, he happened to fumble the ball on that particular play.

Speaker 16 And the only people we had in the field that time was a bunch of linemen and slow tight ends that were blocking them.

Speaker 16 And so as Harper picked it up, who ironically enough had an incident at his home the day before,

Speaker 16 But he took off. Ben going backwards, tripped him up.
And right there may have been the best tackle of the entire playoff. Here it is.
All you got to do is just don't fumble.

Speaker 16 And now

Speaker 16 we are down, we're up by three,

Speaker 16 and we're sitting there with Peyton at the midfield. He throws two balls into the end zone to our rookie, Brian McFadden.
They both fall in complete.

Speaker 16 But you have like a 52-yard field goal by Mike Vanderjack, who was the most accurate field goal kicker at the time. And so I called,

Speaker 16 I called timeout to ice him. He looked at me like, what are you doing? I'm thinking, well, what else am I going to do? And I got one more timeout left.
He missed it.

Speaker 16 That game was epic only because of the fact earlier in this season, we lost three straight games. And one of them was an embarrassment on Monday night in Indianapolis to that same team.

Speaker 16 So that was kind of the revenge tour we had that season. We won eight straight that year to win a championship, six of of which were on the road.

Speaker 16 And it was kind of a sense of it was kind of a revenge. First was Cincinnati, the last team we lost to.
The second was Indianapolis or Indianapolis, who embarrassed us on Monday night.

Speaker 16 And Tone, the third one was Denver. And we had enough history with Denver to say, we're going to beat you in your place, Mike Shanahan.
That was an answer.

Speaker 16 And then we moved to Seattle and went to Detroit, going up there in a Motown. We were the home team.
I said, nope, we are the away team.

Speaker 16 We're in our white jerseys because we've been underdogs this entire trip. Because you said no six seed can ever go to a Super Bowl, let alone even win one.
So, you know what?

Speaker 16 We're only going to do it, and we're going to do it as a road dog.

Speaker 1 And that's what we did. Yeah, and Jerome, that is his hometown.
He went to Super Bowl for the bus on the way out. What an absolutely wonderful story.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I got absolute chills you reminiscing on the greatness of that 2005 team. I graduated high school in 2005, him in 2006.
So we were living that with you, brother.

Speaker 1 You need to know we were living alongside of that. Are you speaking to the current team? Because what you just said there is like, hey, hard times during the season.

Speaker 1 Then we got hot and we started rolling. It was a revenge store.
Are you speaking to the boys?

Speaker 16 I have to go up to Buffalo on Sunday for CBS. I got to leave Saturday night.
But I think the bottom line is sometimes the depth of despair can take you to the heights of hope.

Speaker 16 And that's what we were able to go through when you talk about losing three straight games at November. We lose seven and two, go to seven and five.
Everybody's counting it out. Here's a great story.

Speaker 16 I'll share this with you, Pat, and we'll probably talk about it. I'm going to talk about it Saturday night.
We're getting ready on on a Friday night.

Speaker 16 They played the Cincinnati Bengals worth sixth seed. And, you know, Mr.
Rooney comes into my office about four o'clock in the afternoon. Everybody's gone.
He says, Coach, how are we doing? I go, Mr.

Speaker 16 Rooney, I think we're good. We had a good week's work.
I mean, Cincinnati, we know them well. I think we'll be okay.
He goes, Well, I want to give you something here. I go, Well, listen,

Speaker 16 I go, What is it? He goes, So, Rosary Beads. I go, I'm not even Catholic.
He goes, Just take him. I said, Well, I go, We don't need any luck.
He said, Coach, every little bit helps. So I said, Okay.

Speaker 16 So I took him, put him in my pocket, and I sat there. And all of a sudden, Indianapolis game, after McPayton

Speaker 16 got that ball back after the drone fumble, I went in my pocket. I started holding that thing.
I go, come on, baby. Work your juju.

Speaker 1 Come on, man. Come on.

Speaker 16 Come on, baby. So I had to hell of him.
And we won that game. Bender checks lining up.
I called Tymot. I went to my pocket.
I go, okay, come on, baby. Come on, Rosary Beads.
Misses.

Speaker 16 We go out to Denver. It's about, you know, 10 minutes before I'm shaking hands.
We're coming in, right, getting ready to come to the huddle. I go, shoot.
I ran into the huddle.

Speaker 16 I ran into the locker room. They go, where's Coach going? He has to go to the bathroom.
Is he nervous? I go, no. I go, I forgot rosary beads.

Speaker 16 So I had to go in there, got them back, put them in my pocket. And to this day, I still have them.

Speaker 16 And I'm going to pull them out on Saturday night as I meet with some of the guys and just talk about the element of what happens with that football team. It started at the top.
It trickles down.

Speaker 16 We were a special unit because we all had a degree of sacrifice. We all had degree of commitment.
And we all learned to trust one another and have each other's back.

Speaker 16 It wasn't our most talented team, but it was our closest team. And that's what I'm proud of.

Speaker 16 And so sometimes I sit there and say, no matter where you are, the depths of despair can take you to the heights of hope.

Speaker 1 That's a bar right there, Coach. That's why you're a Hall of Famer.
That's why we're proud to have you as the Inser and friend of the program.

Speaker 1 You're the man and also the Inspo for Tone Diggs on his beautiful Halloween. Ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 9 Tone Diggs,

Speaker 16 Tone, you made my halloween brother i love it thank you you made my childhood coach so thank you

Speaker 1 we love that ladies and gentlemen coach bill car

Speaker 1 thank you coach all right uh let's take a break on the other side we'll make all our picks then we'll get out of here on this happy halloween feel good friday october 31st 2025.

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Speaker 1 Football is magical. And before we chit-chat

Speaker 1 and give our picks for the weekend, we gotta say shout out to Zito and team for putting together the spooky,

Speaker 1 spooky, spooky Halloween decorations. They did a great job.
And this is Skelly. This is the one that got taken.
That's a local sports and weatherman, Ed Edwards Simpson.

Speaker 1 That was the Skelly that was taken and returned to AQ Shipley by those frat boys that were taught a lesson in a hard time with 50 push-ups while they were getting scolded on the streets.

Speaker 2 Now, can you imagine if another group of frat boys come and take Skelly out of his yard again after it was already returned?

Speaker 2 I'm just wondering if there's a rival frat that wants to come and take Skelly.

Speaker 1 Hopefully not. So I think what had happened was from the messages that I've seen from it, it was actually own frat turn in and then also other frats saying,

Speaker 1 we don't want to do that. That ain't what we want to do.
Oh, okay. We don't want to be disrespected, Mr.
Shipley.

Speaker 1 You know, the one guy actually, from what we've been told, actually said profusely to his group, no skeletons this year, boys. Okay, no skeletons this year.

Speaker 1 So these guys, whenever you talk about feeling bad, this group and then every group, every fraternity in the state, I heard from what I've been told said, that ain't how this is supposed to go.

Speaker 1 Not supposed to steal the daughter's favorite skeleton that's out front, making it spooky season and celebrating Halloween. And now they can smile again, and the boys return it.
Did the right thing.

Speaker 1 We salute them. Yeah, I do.

Speaker 1 Talks tables here at Harry Potter and Heavenly Hulk Hogan. Hulkster, what are your thoughts on Skelly getting stolen? That seems like a one-way trip to hell, brother.
They return it almost.

Speaker 1 Reverse card.

Speaker 1 Let's let's go ahead and send right back to heaven maybe is that how you think it'll be viewed by saint peter uh we'll see he's a pretty tough critic so i don't know i think really boy me no i'm just saying

Speaker 1 he is yes he is what'd you say yeah well

Speaker 1 you got something to say with that fucking stupid looking haircut hey i remember you said

Speaker 1 you said a couple hours ago hey i'm about being tempi in a couple years Your career's done, pal.

Speaker 1 You're going to fucking die in Toledo, Ohio, doing some bullshit newscast that no one's watching if you're a weather man i can you know i'm joe donardo who

Speaker 1 may i just had

Speaker 1 yes he's a lovely guy so it's we got did he has he made any of the gravy yeah

Speaker 1 so i was just gonna say we actually have an eclectic bunch that comes over to my house every sunday night uh you remember big top callahan yes brian denah he he's there uh and then we got regisphin wow dekembe matubo what and then yeah obviously Joe DeNardo comes over.

Speaker 1 It's one of the

Speaker 1 Mongo McMichael? Mongo is by my hip wherever I go. He's one of the horsemen, obviously.

Speaker 1 You know, I mean, me and him weren't exactly the tightest when we were in the WCW, but me and Mongo, we see a lot. So, yeah, he'll stop over for Sunday gravy every once in a while.

Speaker 1 It's kind of tough with Joe Donardo. We didn't start out on the best foot because...
What? Well, my name's Terry Balea, okay? Guess who also knows how to make some Sunday gravy?

Speaker 1 The Hulkster does, dude. And I'm talking so much protein and oregano.
You know, you put Italian sausage, pork sausage. Tomatoes, the freshest, obviously.
The freshest tomato.

Speaker 1 Well, that's one nice thing about being up here is the big guy don't fuck around with produce.

Speaker 1 It's so fresh everywhere you go.

Speaker 1 But yeah, you know, my Sunday gravy, obviously, everybody loves it. They come from miles and miles around.
Joe's gravy is pretty good, too. Okay, all right.
It's not bad.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm happy to see you two Paisans up there really making everybody happy. One half of the hammer.

Speaker 1 Cowboys, Coach Cower is here. Now, let's dive in to the games here.
Last night, we were both on the Baltimore Ravens. Yes, we were minus seven and a half.

Speaker 1 We get the win, which is not good, by the way, for the NFL. If both of us were on the Ravens and for us to win, then the game had to be obviously more than a one-score difference at the end.
It was.

Speaker 1 And Miami didn't look terrible at the beginning. Now, could have taken a field goal, could have made a field goal.
That thing could have been 14-12 at halftime. Okay.
Instead, it's 14-6.

Speaker 1 Then the second half goes how it goes. And inevitably, the Baltimore Ravens is who everybody thought they could potentially be.
They get a huge win on Thursday Night Football.

Speaker 1 We kind of forecasted that, did we not, Eddie Simpson? Yeah, we did.

Speaker 2 We thought seven and a half was a lot, but we knew the Ravens were gonna cover.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and we like the Ravens going forward because you know who else likes the Ravens going forward? The sports books. Now, let's not think about the sports books.

Speaker 1 Let's take a look-see here at who the public is on. You know, there's been quite a story to be told throughout this NFL season on who the public betting or the public money exactly is upon.
87%

Speaker 1 on the Lions

Speaker 1 hosting the Vikings. 88% on the Chargers traveling to the Tennessee Titans team that just got blown out by the Colts last week.
82% on the Broncos. The Texans, that's only plus one and a half, though.

Speaker 1 So they're just thinking that they win the game, even though the Houston Texans last week looked unbelievable. Almost 80% on the Chargers at 78%.

Speaker 1 Same with the Seahawks when they're traveling to Washington. That's a long way to go to be three-point favorites.
Patriots, 77%,

Speaker 1 75% on the Colts against the Steelers. Three and a half point spread there.
Okay. A lot of people thinking the Colts offense is going to do what it's going to do.

Speaker 1 But maybe this is the game that kind of ignites that Pittsburgh Steelers seem like the 2005 Pittsburgh Steelers who took a couple losses, then turned that into motivation and then ran the table.

Speaker 1 And they're going to be celebrating that in Aquisher this weekend. That feels like a big deal.
Jacksonville Jaguars getting 74%. Good for Liam Kellen.
Yeah. Only two and a half.

Speaker 1 Yeah, only two and a half point favorites, which is why maybe 74% are on that.

Speaker 1 But even traveling traveling to the Raiders, the Jaguars as a whole, having that many people believe in them at that, congrats to him. Cowboys, 68%.
There might be $100 billion underneath the ground.

Speaker 1 So there's a chance that if they win or lose, it does not matter. Panthers taking on the Green Bay Packers almost at 70% on the Pac minus 12.5.
That's a huge spread.

Speaker 1 Bills, favored by 2.5 at home, 66% of the folks are saying, listen, I've seen what this regular season. season matchup looks like in the past and the Bills win that.

Speaker 1 And then the Bengals at 60% over the Bears and the Niners at 64 over the giants all right so that's where the public lies we will certainly need to be reminded as we go through here and pick each one of these games individually let's start with the broncos at the texans broncos getting a lot of the money texans favored by one and a half down there in houston edward simpson aj hawk who do you like how do you like it so do we tone do we not want to be on the public side actually uh you know at the beginning of the year you did not but uh beginning the year like the first six weeks yes yes with the first six seven,

Speaker 3 seven weeks. The last two weeks, the public has been a lot better.
This last week, in there, including last night, it's a six and six run on teams getting 60% or more against.

Speaker 1 So you're not winning. So the first seven weeks, it was

Speaker 1 become, well, maybe, maybe the public's.

Speaker 3 But Monday night and then last night, they were both 70%.

Speaker 1 Is it starting to become too obvious with the string of games that we've had for the first time since 1970?

Speaker 2 Let's see if we have any blowouts, like a whole slate of poopy games again.

Speaker 1 Now, the Favorites did a big-time W fest last weekend. A lot of the Favorites just blew out the teams that weren't supposed to be good.
Houston Texans favored over the Broncos at home. C.J.

Speaker 1 Stroud had a good week last week. Denver Broncos are who everybody thinks they are, I think.
The Denver Broncos coming in the season at Super Bowl Hops. Go ahead, Connie.
Yeah, massive losses.

Speaker 1 No certain this week. He's now out for four to six weeks.
That's Strain Peck.

Speaker 1 That's a big deal. Definitely changes a lot.
The under here is definitely nice.

Speaker 2 I was leaning somewhat heavy Broncos. You know what? With how CJ Stroud and they are playing with the Sertain out, give me the Texans.

Speaker 1 Okay, I'll take the Texans as well. Falcons, Patriots, Patriots favored by five and a half at home.
Any super duper lighter uppers happening up there in New England?

Speaker 1 I'm not sure about the super duper lighter uppers. I know

Speaker 1 Lawrence Guy. He did it last week.
Yeah, QB Prether King, did he? He is a dog, Larry Guy. He's a former teammate of mine.
Absolutely beautiful. Let me be too.
Lending Bay.

Speaker 1 Green Bay, legend. Green Bay as well.
This is a great matchup for New England. They haven't allowed a 50-yard rusher yet.

Speaker 1 And even with Pennix back and Drake London, and Drake London is still kind of questionable.

Speaker 1 Christian Gonzalez is the best player on New England. He'll take out Drake London.
So I actually do really like the Patriots here, which, again, might be a really, really bad sign.

Speaker 1 No Ramondre Stevenson. So Trevion Henderson, second-round pick out of Ohio State, now kind of becomes a premier guy.
Very excited to watch it. Yeah, Yeah, he's a great player, Holster.

Speaker 1 This Trevion Henderson, he's an absolute dog whenever we last saw him play. Now he's potentially going to get the load, if you will, of the runs for this Patriots team.

Speaker 1 Falcons lose to the Dolphins pretty bad. Real bad.
But they're like this, aren't they? They are, yeah. I literally said on game to two weeks ago, I think it was Michigan.

Speaker 1 I was like, Michigan is like this. So this is literally what Michigan is like.
Last week, they were like this. So this week, that means they're going to be like this.
Only reason why I picked them.

Speaker 1 Literally the only reason why I picked them. Falcons kind of like that as well.
Wouldn't this be like the bad week to face the Falcons with how their season is going, Hulkster?

Speaker 1 Well, I think that's why if you're a Patriots fan, you're very excited to watch this game because, yeah, conventional wisdom would say, hey, this is the week the Falcons are going to perform, dude.

Speaker 1 They've kind of been horseshit every other week. Kirk Cousins ain't playing.
Listen, I love Kirk. Might be time to stick a fork in that guy.
What? He might be done. Fork in Kirk?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think so, especially when you're paying him $28 million. Man, what a a bad idea that was.
But it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because you got the young guy panics.
He looks pretty good.

Speaker 1 But if you're a Patriots fan, this is the week where you can kind of emphatically say, hey, we're a really good team. We're supposed to get, you know, Atlanta's best shot.

Speaker 1 And if we go out there and just go belt the ass, beat the piss out of them, then yeah, yeah, we are the kids. Kirk Cousins is going to get a pair of those.
Kirk Cousins is going to pay.

Speaker 1 Without a doubt.

Speaker 1 You know, I don't do too much of that stuff. You know, getting the predictive markets of when certain people are going to be up there.
But yeah, you know, just in kind of passing conversation, St.

Speaker 1 Peter has said, I'll tell you what, I really like the cut of that Kirk Guzz jib.

Speaker 1 I don't know if he's going to get the 23-inch,

Speaker 1 you know, wigs. He might be more of a 16- to 18-inch guy, but I guess we'll see.
What are normal Python sizes compared to yours, let alone the wings?

Speaker 1 I know you got bigger wings, but what are normal Python sizes? I usually don't even keep track because the hulkers are so fucking big. Usually I'd say, I don't know, you know,

Speaker 1 11 to 12 inches. Like A.J.
Hawker. You're a 23-inch Python.
So, what do you mean?

Speaker 1 Go ahead and give a flex for me, son.

Speaker 1 You can't release my arm. Yeah, I can tell.
Yeah, I mean, what is that? 12? You know, Hulkster's basically doubling up, A.J. Hawker.
No way. Yeah.
I believe. I'm here.
I don't think.

Speaker 1 Well, I don't know. Actually, can you hit me with one of these?

Speaker 2 No, I'm all right.

Speaker 1 Then go fuck yourself, dude.

Speaker 1 You suck.

Speaker 1 I'm about done with you. I thought you were in heaven.
You're not supposed to have a headache. I am.
How many times have I said, boo, I can do whatever the fuck I want, baby. I am a real American.

Speaker 1 Five birthday.

Speaker 2 How does everyone else react to him up there?

Speaker 1 I would imagine they don't love him.

Speaker 1 He's got those.

Speaker 2 There's no way they can love this up there.

Speaker 1 He's a platinum card. He said those are the platinum cards.
Have you ever heard of a black Amex, dude? Amex, Amex? Yeah. That's basically what these are.

Speaker 1 They ain't getting declined anywhere.

Speaker 1 With that being said, I'll take the Patriots. Okay.
Good pick.

Speaker 1 I'll flex those muscles with the Patriots as well, Hogster. I love it.
You guys are on one today, dude.

Speaker 1 What's spread?

Speaker 1 Bill. Five and a half.
It's big. It's a big spray.

Speaker 1 We do have some stats on size of biceps. We looked them up, and this is what AI had to say.
There's three different degrees of biceps. There's untrained male.

Speaker 1 That's 13 to 14 inches what i think you were trying to say hulkster to to aj there's an active man you know maybe a runner a mover but not necessarily a lifter 14 to 16 inch pythons and then bodybuilders obviously he got 16 20 inches but we know that's not true because the top end of that thing is 20 is the roof hulkster's more than just a bodybuilder he's got 23 inch pythons but what ai is saying is what you got strapped to your shoulders right now not normal hulkster yeah exactly they actually forgot and it's not you know yeah there is bodybuilders And then there's one more category, and it's the Hulkster.

Speaker 1 And guess who sits in that category? The Hulkster and nobody else. Okay.
Maybe Big Black. I know he had, you know, which, again, lovely guy.
Lovely guy. Robin Big Day.

Speaker 1 Did you hang out with him?

Speaker 1 Well, I don't know what do you think. I just said he's a lovely guy.
So you didn't say he's over for the cookie. Do you think maybe I spent it?

Speaker 1 Do you know how much time I got to kill up here?

Speaker 1 All of it. How much you can do?

Speaker 1 Okay, I'm happy to hear that. By the way, we're all happy to hear that.
Why did Hardy look like he had some 23s on him?

Speaker 1 Wouldn't that count? Hardy, did you wake up on the wrong side of a truck? Talk with this morning.

Speaker 1 Can you let the Hulkster maybe come see what he thinks, the size of the biceps the pythons are in right now?

Speaker 2 What category is that?

Speaker 1 I'll tell you what, Debone is living his best life.

Speaker 2 He looks great.

Speaker 1 He's living his best life. Hardy said that was sick.
Okay. Did he really? Yeah, I just want to let you know that, Debone.
I think there's a nod of approval from Hardy there.

Speaker 1 Hulkster, if you had to look and eyeball these pythons, what would you be saying there? That's what I'm talking about. 2.3? Java's going to ball.
Hey, can you back up just a little bit?

Speaker 1 Back up just a little bit. No, like that way.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because Java's kind of ball. Yeah.
What do you think there, Hulkster? I'll tell you what, I like the cut of this young man's gym.

Speaker 1 It's just the only thing I'm really noticing is the 53-inch waist. That's the only thing that my eyes are going to.

Speaker 1 42, 42. 42? That's not bad, but we need to trim that down a little bit.
Aren't you only like 25, dude? Come on, get healthy, bro. He's a D3 national champion.
I know, but you know what he also did?

Speaker 1 He said, well, I need a solo cut for my costume. Yeah, get one over on the Hulkster.
I've seen how many fucking Dr. Peppers you've been drinking today, dude.
He's been just emptying.

Speaker 1 That's Halloween, Hulkster. We're supposed to celebrate.
That's what we're here for. You know, we're having candy.
What's your favorite candy, Hulkster?

Speaker 1 Call me crazy. I'm a good and plenty guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
I agree. You like those two? Yeah, I do.
I knew I liked you.

Speaker 1 No, but it's one of those things where I get it is Hollyweed. We should celebrate.
Do we need to be drinking 16, 12 ounce Dr. Peppers before 3 o'clock in the afternoon? I don't think so.

Speaker 1 He's not going to be honest with us. I know how much candy that guy's eating tonight.
Okay, he needs to enjoy it, obviously, especially with the text from Hardy. Well, yeah.

Speaker 1 He's having a hell of a day.

Speaker 1 You look good, brother. How do you think about his U-ball performances lately? Have you seen him? I did saw him yesterday.

Speaker 1 He needs to get rid of the...

Speaker 1 I mean, I know he became a pioneer. He thought that was a big deal.
I haven't seen him make one of them fuckers in like two weeks. He needs to start shooting the U-ball.
Shoot the U-ball, son.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Happy Halloween, Hardy. Happy Halloween, dude.
Happy Halloween, Hardy.

Speaker 1 Man,

Speaker 1 we had no idea how this was going to go.

Speaker 1 I had a pretty good idea.

Speaker 1 I'm happy to hear that. We're both on the Patriots.
Yeah. That makes everybody happy out out here, I think.
No matter what the waist or the Pythons are. Carolina Panthers, Green Bay Packers.

Speaker 1 Packers favored by 12 and a half. Any other lines out there, Tone?

Speaker 3 There actually is.

Speaker 1 Sorry, coach.

Speaker 3 You could get anywhere from 13.5 if you want the Panthers down to that 12.5 if you're on the pack.

Speaker 1 Okay, so you can add an extra. Panthers quarterback Bryce Young has no injury designation for Sunday, meaning he's good to go versus the Packers.

Speaker 1 Says Adam Schefter, Bryce Young back getting a lot of points if you want him in Lambeau.

Speaker 2 Man, 12.5 points.

Speaker 2 What do they know that we don't know? I know the Packers are good. I know Jordan Love is good, but I think the Panthers are pretty good too with Bryce in there.

Speaker 1 I'll pick the Panthers plus 13 and a half. Is that what I get? I'll take Panthers plus 13 and a half.
Give me the Packers, actually.

Speaker 1 What's that old bud? 12 and a half, right?

Speaker 2 Yeah. Give me the Packers.
Micah's heating up. What do you have? How many sacks last game?

Speaker 1 You're saying no backdoor cover because Micah at the end of the game. Is that what you're saying? Micah is kind of a backdoor cover machine.
For real.

Speaker 2 That's when they feast. That's when you get those sacks.

Speaker 1 Lots of gravel points. Actually,

Speaker 1 that is something to think about here because in my mind it's like bryce young good player bryce young good player carolina panthers good team we think like not ass like that four and four yeah we think they're good teams like going into the season i don't think anybody had any expectations because the carolina panthers and everything like that but they are a good team i think they're only going to continue to be a good team in that nfc south 13 points feels like a lot of points that just feels like a lot of points for that team this strikes me as a recency bias type deal because the panthers did not look good last week and granted it was andy dalton he basically came out afterward and said I didn't tell anybody, but I had a fucking broken thumb the entire time.

Speaker 1 So not easy to play quarterback. We got broken thumb, dude.
But then you also look at the Packers. Big-time emotional win.
You know, Jordan Love looked unbelievable.

Speaker 1 He was the FedEx Air player of the week. So maybe that's, you know,

Speaker 1 getting into this a little bit. How'd you know he's the you pay attention all the time? I read the tabloids quite a bit.
You know, just check in, see what's going on.

Speaker 1 And maybe, I don't know, maybe I have a little say in who's going to win.

Speaker 1 That's FedEx Air. Air player of the week.
I also am big. I kind of spearheaded the who's the Pepsi rookie of the week.
That was also one of the Hulksters kind of big moves.

Speaker 1 Who was that this week? Ah, shit. I don't know.

Speaker 1 Probably, I'm trying to think, rookie off the top of my head. I don't know.

Speaker 1 Tyler Ward, probably. That son bitch wins it every week.

Speaker 1 So maybe him. This strikes me as a game that the Packers win by 10, though.
I'm right there with you. I don't.

Speaker 1 Man, that's a tough number. 13's a lot.
Yeah. All right.
Good for me with the Panthers. Hopefully, I look like a smart guy with that pick as opposed to just not going with the obvious.

Speaker 1 The Packers are very good, and maybe we're not showing them enough respect in the conversation of what can happen in the NFC, but the sports books like what they're at.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's go with the Chargers traveling to Tennessee. Chargers, nine and a half-point favorites against Tennessee Titans team that just got decimated by the Indianapolis Colts.

Speaker 1 I'll say this from watching this team. Cam Ward's electrifying.
He is electrifying.

Speaker 1 Now, I don't know how much of it is like, hey, this is sustainable in NFL because he's making like these nasty, weave over top of a linebacker in front of a safety guy running 20 miles an hour across the field.

Speaker 1 perfect throws under duress. I mean, he's doing shit that's like outrageous with that.
And their team stinks.

Speaker 1 So if the team was to get very good, you would assume that Cam Ward becomes a guy like everybody else.

Speaker 1 But then, you know, they're going to get caught into a who's coach, when's coach, who's coach, when's coach if they don't figure that out.

Speaker 1 So I'm very worried about potentially Cam Ward's entire career, especially with the glimpse that we saw in person at the Loudhouse this past weekend. On that note, Colts steamrolled them.

Speaker 1 And Colts are a very, very, very good football team. So I think outside of Indianapolis, outside the Colts fan base, everybody says, well, this Titans team must be ass if the Colts did that to him.

Speaker 1 It's like this Colts team, best team in football right now. And the Titans have ruled out Calvin Ridley again.

Speaker 1 Jeffrey Simmons, again, they weren't playing last week. Arden Key and Xavier Woods for Sunday's game against the Chargers.
Go ahead, Con man.

Speaker 1 I would just look at all four of those guys to be traded by Monday. Like,

Speaker 1 that is the one thing going into this weekend that's interesting is all these poopy teams, the guys who aren't playing, they just seem to be types of guys that might get moved.

Speaker 1 Okay, so that's potentially a decision to like, let's not get hurt. Let's not get these guys hurt.
We know where we're at. We know it's possible.

Speaker 1 And good business could potentially be get rid of some of our good parts so that we can build this thing in the future around Cam Ward.

Speaker 1 Not that those guys wouldn't be helping him, but also get rid of your best players is telling the entire fan base, like, yeah, it's going to be a wall.

Speaker 2 Yeah, two months of the regular season left, too.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. Yeah, already fired their coach, and Jefferson has been, you know, hurt for a little.
So

Speaker 1 it might also just be a lingering. And Ridley as well.
Yeah. So he was out last week.

Speaker 1 So, you know, the Colts, people around the Colts, people in building, were expecting the Colts to beat the hell out of the Titans. They're like, we should beat the hell out of this team.

Speaker 1 They're hurt too. Like, it's not, it's not good.
Yeah. And then they go out and do that.
It's like, hell yeah.

Speaker 1 On the other side, if you're a Titans fan, that's not good to hear from the Indianapolis Colts saying that.

Speaker 2 No, it's not. I was actually going to lean Titans for a little bit on this game.
And then obviously seeing Jeffrey Simmons, all these guys still out now. Give me the Chargers.

Speaker 1 Cam special watching him, though.

Speaker 2 Remember in camp what he was doing? Like when he, from the day he stepped into that franchise, like into the building there, it was unbelievable, everything about him.

Speaker 1 But the offense needs to, he's got a new offense coming, another one coming already into his NFL career. Don't we all think, though, that like an NFL to win, the offense has to be like on time,

Speaker 1 scripted, everything has to be like that. Cam's obviously going to continue to develop and kind of get in that because you think about back to Miami.
There was some magic happening all over the place.

Speaker 1 Him and Restreppo were connected at the hip, seemingly, as they were dominating everybody. A lot of football gods blessing them as well.
I'm sure you see the football gods up there running around.

Speaker 1 All the time. We meet every Wednesday night, dude.
Wednesdays because there's no games on. And then, is that why the football gods are kind of freed up? Yeah, typically they'll come over.

Speaker 1 Obviously, they love Real Real American beer as well. So, you know, they'll have a couple pots with me.
And yeah, we kind of just chat about the league as a whole.

Speaker 1 Hey, look for this team this weekend, Hulkster. Football guy's going to bless them.
Oh, so it's kind of like inside information you're getting on what the games are going to happen almost, Hulkster.

Speaker 1 I didn't know that was happening up there. Did you know that, Ed? I had no clue.
It's crazy, especially with what's going on down here. Who's your favorite player?

Speaker 2 You got a couple favorite players? Like two or three?

Speaker 1 Like, currently? Are we talking like all the people? Right now? Currently, right now.

Speaker 2 Who are your favorite current players in the league right now?

Speaker 1 Right now.

Speaker 1 I mean, I'd like the the cut of that Dan Jones' gym. I really do.
I like that guy a lot, man.

Speaker 1 Who else do I like?

Speaker 2 Cooper DeGene. I can see you liking him.

Speaker 1 I love him, obviously. Reed Blankenship, love him.
Riley Moss, love him.

Speaker 1 I mean, I could,

Speaker 1 honestly, I could just go off and off.

Speaker 1 You're passing Ricard, don't you? Yeah, I love that he's healthy. I maybe knew that a couple weeks ago.
What week he was coming back, dude. Maybe.
Do you like Lamar a lot?

Speaker 1 I actually, you know what? I have come around now, Lamar. I was a big, this guy's a running back, playing quarterback.
A lot of people are doing that. A lot of people are saying that.

Speaker 1 That guy's quarterback. Yeah, he's unbelievable.

Speaker 1 There's a couple throws last night. I mean, you're talking like

Speaker 1 seeds on the run, just doing insane stuff. Him being able to do that after pulling the ping-pong tables and everything, he's special.
Guy, let's go to the next game.

Speaker 1 Let's go, Chargers, Titans. Who do you officially take?

Speaker 2 I am taking the Chargers.

Speaker 1 Me as well. Let's go to San Francisco 49ers taking on the New York Giants.
Niners, Niners favored by two and a half heading into MetLife Stadium. Who do you like? How do you like it, AJ?

Speaker 2 What am I missing here? Only two and a half.

Speaker 1 Should it be more? I mean, I guess Texans had like 98%

Speaker 1 possession against San Fran last week. Very nice.
No Fred, no Bosa on the defensive side. Go ahead.
One o'clock game for a West Coast team on the East Coast.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you just add that into all the others. You do the Giants.
Yeah, I'll take the Giants as well. I think we're seeing it the same.

Speaker 1 That might be recency bias from what we just saw from the Niners, but it was not good.

Speaker 1 I'm seeing Jackson Dartmouth.

Speaker 6 I was watching on the Pat McAfee, and I saw the boys actually liked us to win.

Speaker 1 That's pretty lit,

Speaker 1 dog. He's not going to like this.

Speaker 1 We're wearing the best jerseys in football as well. I got to pot it up for you right there.
Boom. Oh, those are pretty color rushes.
Those are much nicer than the,

Speaker 1 you know, we saw on Sunday night.

Speaker 6 Yeah, the all-yellow the Chargers were.

Speaker 1 They tried to take your gimmick almost. Yeah.
And there's a reason everybody hates that because they look at yellow and they associate that with Tolko Media, brother, now and forevermore.

Speaker 1 Amen. I'm a real

Speaker 1 American.

Speaker 1 Fight for the ride of every man.

Speaker 1 I'm a real

Speaker 1 merit.

Speaker 1 Fight for your ride.

Speaker 1 Fight for your life, dude.

Speaker 1 Wednesday nights with the football gods have to be so much fun. They're the best.
Dude, I couldn't even.

Speaker 2 You got a band up there? Are you playing bass up there still?

Speaker 1 Did you even listen to anything I said earlier?

Speaker 1 would you the hulkster doesn't need to play the bass when you got ozzy osborn and meatloaf and guys like that coming up and saying hey hulkster you about to sit down i'll do i would do anything for love right now guess what yes you will meatloaf take the fucking stage dude who are your favorite players that are up there now with you from the nfl from the nfl

Speaker 1 no i was gonna say don't don't make the holster i was not prepared for this question and i don't want to get any guys pissed off yes because guess what?

Speaker 1 We're not talking about these guys when they pass. We're talking about, you know, mean, lean, fighting machines from when they're in their mid-20s.
Oh, so that's the answer.

Speaker 1 So that's what you show up as, your best version?

Speaker 1 If you want to. If you want to.
You have options. Yeah.
You know, if you wanted to be like Marlon Brando, for example. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Obviously, he was the godfather. He was Doc Corleo.

Speaker 1 He gained like... 150 pounds when he was in apocalypse now.
Basically, he just turned into like a fat slob.

Speaker 1 When he got up to heaven, he said nah fuck it i want to be the fat slob version of me and everyone's like marlon you're the man dude so it's kind of it's kind of a dealer's choice it's up to you

Speaker 1 you're breaking a lot of news on what i try you know not everyone's fortunate enough to get up there brother that's the

Speaker 1 the food man chu

Speaker 1 very strong i that it makes sense now especially with how big the biceps are that you picked the best version this is the greatest hulkster that you had the entire run you think i think you could argue that again when i was you know running hot with nash and uh haul in you know like 95.

Speaker 1 yeah but it's gonna be nwo exactly you can't be a heel up there because nobody's gonna walk over your house dude nobody's gonna want to come to hogie's hangout a lot of baby faces up there a lot of baby faces up there exactly so you know it's like could i and every once in a while i will you know i'll grow the the black beard back and just to see what people will do i'll stroll around they got paint up there yeah well you know not really paint i'll just wake up and be like hey st.

Speaker 1 Peter I want to look like a Hollywood Hulk Hogan today and boom just happens immediately and I'll sometimes I'll just walk right down the main strip and

Speaker 1 just you know kind of remember people yeah Hulk still got that fastball too

Speaker 1 yes he does yes he does Vikings at Lions Lions favored by nine and a half uh at home against the Vikings interesting conversations around the Vikings were had earlier today by us oh yeah but with the trade deadline looming and no answers really for some teams, especially teams that were like in contention to be the number one seed in the NFC just last year and have a lot of, you know, questions still at very important.

Speaker 1 Like J.J. McCarthy's guy, okay, sounds good.
We appreciate that. Saw him do a shed

Speaker 1 drill, sprawl, shed, sprawl drill last week. So we're assuming he's getting healthier to be back there.
Trade deadline Tuesday. Who knows who's buying, who's selling, who's making massive moves.

Speaker 1 We assume somebody will. But the Vikings, vastly different place than we thought they were going to be in.
And the Lions, also, if you ask Shrakers going into the year, you lose both coordinators.

Speaker 1 I don't think it's going to be as good of a year. Let's go ahead and just completely reverse that.
The Lions sitting where the brand new Lions have been sitting.

Speaker 1 Now, Foxy, nine and a half-point favorites at home. How do you feel about it?

Speaker 10 Yeah, Lions coming off the bye week, by the way. And if you remember, two weeks ago, we played the Bucs.
Secondary was absolutely ravaged. We're getting Terry Arnold back.

Speaker 10 We're getting Brian Branch back, but Kirby Joseph, DJ Reed's still out. But J.J.
McCarthy, homecoming game.

Speaker 10 When the Lions are favored by a lot at home over the last two, three years, they tend to cover the spread. So I'll just leave you guys with that.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Con man, which way do you lean in this particular match?

Speaker 1 It feels as though it's going to be a panic in Minnesota on Monday, and the Lions might be kind of hitting their stride a bit here. So I'm definitely, I love the Lions.
Coach Cower, you like MCDC.

Speaker 1 I think you see a lot of yourself potentially in the way he operates.

Speaker 3 What do you think about this game? Love Love MCDC.

Speaker 8 Provisional game, basically.

Speaker 3 I took the Lions, you get them at minus eight and a half. I just don't like the vibes going on in Minnesota.

Speaker 1 Nope. Ed Simpson, what are your thoughts?

Speaker 2 I like the Lions here, too.

Speaker 1 I can get them at eight and a half, you say, Tone? Yep. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean, this is going to be. Can you imagine the environment? What time is it? Noon or

Speaker 1 one o'clock.

Speaker 2 One o'clock game. Okay.
It's still going to be a raucous environment. I don't know if Kid Rock is playing halftime, but either way, that place is going to be going.

Speaker 1 He did his costume the other day. He did.

Speaker 1 Jeez.

Speaker 1 I'll take the Lions. Let's go to the next one.
Colts versus Steelers. I like the Colts minus three and a half over there in Akersher.
The only worry is that that spray-painted dirt might be

Speaker 1 going too fast into people's eyes as Jonathan Taylor is doing his thing against that Pittsburgh Steelers defense. He's going to pop off at least one or two long ones.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's just what the Colts have been doing and have, you know, kind of consistently shown to be who they are. Explosive plays in the run game.
And then also Danny Dimes doing his thing.

Speaker 1 Only three and a half, Coach Coward. Did you expect that, or did you think it was going to be a little bit more?

Speaker 1 And on that note, only three and a half is being said about the Indianapolis Colts in 2025 heading into play on its own series. On the road,

Speaker 3 yeah, I thought it was going to be more. You can get minus three if you want, not that you're going to need it.
Uh, Jonathan Taylor's going to have one or two of those runs a drive.

Speaker 1 Uh,

Speaker 1 damn,

Speaker 1 two tuds a drive. What is it? The depths of despair can take you to the heights of hope.

Speaker 3 Coach ain't walking through that door.

Speaker 1 He is. He is.

Speaker 3 He's going to speak to the team on Saturday. Not this current team.
The team that won the Super Bowl in 2005. Colts haven't won it in Pittsburgh since 2008.
I assume that's going to change.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 I'm thinking this haven't won a game in Pittsburgh since 2008. A lot of hard times, Indianapolis Colts versus the Pittsburgh Steelers for my particular era of Indianapolis Colts time.
Hard time.

Speaker 1 Big games for the Pittsburgh Steelers have come against the Indianapolis Colts.

Speaker 1 Everybody's playing the best football that they've ever played in their life against the Indianapolis Colts for the Pittsburgh Steelers, including Troy Palomolu, who just has a sense to do everything wrong in a moment where he needs to go left.

Speaker 1 He goes right somehow.

Speaker 3 I love that, man. But a lot of people on the internet are saying, like, this could be in Texas A ⁇ M versus LSU situation where it's a blowout.
The stadium's empty in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 3 Rooney's looking around like, oh, we need to make a change.

Speaker 1 Oh, I don't know. That's what you were just saying about Minnesota.
We got a couple of those coming down the pipe, down the pipe here for the NFL. I like the Colts minus three and a half.

Speaker 1 AJ, your thoughts on the game and who you like?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I like the Colts minus three and a half. I mean, does the Steelers' defense figure it out? I don't, I don't think this is the week to figure it out against Danny Jones and Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 2 So now, give me the Colts.

Speaker 1 Okay, so you like the Colts minus three and a half. Do you think the quarterback for the Steelers are going to be mad at Edward Simpson for picking the Colts in this particular game?

Speaker 2 If he ever became aware of the pick of Ed Simpson, sure. I'm sure he'd have a snarky remark.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think there probably would be. Oh, Oh, yeah, it's cool, bro.
That's cool. Lose some hope.
Lose some hope. I saw a good Halloween party coming out of Pittsburgh.
I heard about it.

Speaker 1 I heard about it. Boys celebrate.
That's good news. Couple losses.
Maybe they don't want to be around each other. Why are we spending time? They do Halloween.
Maybe that changes it.

Speaker 1 And on the other side of the field, the Indianapolis Colts. Yeah.
They had max participation at the Halloween party. And they're having good times.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Love that move.

Speaker 1 That's an elite move. I didn't know that move still existed.
Me neither. In 2025.

Speaker 1 From what I've been told at team gathering, social, sorry, camaraderie building gathering, from what I've been told from Colts, one of players, okay, on team, not just on team in general.

Speaker 1 Two cups, drinks, okay? Yeah. Maybe found one, made another one, had one from earlier, found where it was.
Okay, now we have two.

Speaker 1 Or just straight up, I'll take two, please, because I won't come back here with a lot of people, whatever the case is. And allegedly, somebody's coming up to leave.
Person puts one beer in other beer.

Speaker 1 Okay, it starts flowing. Taps up, so have a good one.
Takes beer out, drinks immediately from both beers, keeps the conversation moving. When you have that type of happening

Speaker 1 in your team, Boy, this is dangerous Indianapolis.

Speaker 1 Every story I hear coming out of that place, I'm like, whoa.

Speaker 1 And Bill Coward just told the story about the Pittsburgh Steelers team, how he said it wasn't our best team, but we were definitely the tightest. That was the tightest team we've had.

Speaker 1 This Colts team, I think, is very, very, very, very, very tight. And that's a wonderful thing to have.
And it's very obvious whenever they play.

Speaker 1 It's very obvious that they know each other and that they understand what the hell is going on.

Speaker 2 And it just took Danny Dimes the guy to kind of bring them all together. Like

Speaker 2 he does have a very calming demeanor, and he's also in charge.

Speaker 1 Like, I love what he does. And they have a confidence in him knowing what he's doing, I think.

Speaker 1 You know, like he's the first one that hopefully that there'll be some consistency over the last long time because there's been a lot of turnover we shall see danny dimes is cooking though it's gonna be fun to see if he can do a little get back for about 10 years of colt steelers football this weekend bears taking on the bangles 1 p.m on cbs over under 51 and a half okay 51 and a half that's big boy uh offense stuff they're saying bears favored by two and a half heading into the cincinnati bengals who have had three players in like the last week ask for a trade one of them being released and heading back to another team that team celebrating him coming back as if he was doing a hard time somewhere else.

Speaker 1 Let's talk about Bears Bengals.

Speaker 1 Tone, any other numbers there? And who is the percentage on for this one again?

Speaker 3 So it's two and a half across the board. 60% is actually on the Bengals for this one.

Speaker 1 Backward playing.

Speaker 1 He's got a sprained AC joint in his throwing shoulder. He was day-to-day super painful.

Speaker 3 And they just activated Sean Clifford, I'd be

Speaker 3 quarterback who was on the Packards to the practice squad. And then

Speaker 1 boy. DeAndre

Speaker 1 He's good. I just hope for Bagels fans.

Speaker 1 You do not want to see four quarters of Shaw Clifford football.

Speaker 1 You don't, dude.

Speaker 1 You don't. Okay.
Why not? You don't know. I do know.

Speaker 1 No, you don't know. He was the last great Penn State quarterback.
Hey, it was Zach Taylor. A long time ago.
He never fucking win anything in Penn State. No.
Listen, he was a great duel.

Speaker 1 2016, was he there?

Speaker 1 Shit, I don't remember. He was there for 10 years, so he might have been in some capacity.
Oh, I forgot he did put him. it.
He was there for like 10 years, yeah.

Speaker 1 Which is why he came in Packers backup quarterback. He was like six years older than Jordan Lovey.
I drafted like two years later. He was like, What the hell's going on here, dude?

Speaker 1 So they got rid of him. Uh, you basically need to trade for Flacco.
Your season's gonna go down to the pooper if you don't win this game. You need to play Flacco.

Speaker 1 Listen, I know it's not great, but if his arm falls off, it falls off. That's how Joe would want it.
Is Caleb a guy, Harry, or not? Oh,

Speaker 1 Harry, the Wizardry, that's Caleb.

Speaker 1 Who would you compare him to?

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 in my world,

Speaker 1 he's got a little bit of mouth oil in him.

Speaker 1 You look around that class, it's hard to say he's

Speaker 1 one of the top guys. No, hold on with Ben Johnson.
They're cooking. Now, bad news because when the run game got going for the Chicago Bears, they really started rolling on the offensive side.

Speaker 1 DeAndre Swift is out Sunday versus the Bengals due to a groin injury. Groin, not great for a running back, not great for any explosive position.

Speaker 1 We hope DeAndre Swift gets healthy on the other other side of it. You like the Bears or the Bengals, AJ? Bears going in as two and a half point favorites into the jungle.

Speaker 2 I don't love the Joe Flacco situation. AC joint.
That's one of the few you can shoot up with like lightocaine. They can try to numb it for the game.

Speaker 2 Some teams will do that. But I will take the Chicago Bears on this, actually.

Speaker 1 I will take the Chicago Bears as well. Jaguars, Raiders, you like Liam Cohen or you like Tom Brady potentially making massive plays before trade deadline.

Speaker 2 Give me Liam Cohen in the Jags.

Speaker 1 Me as well. New Orleans Saints taking on the Los Angeles Rams.
Rams favored by 14.5. I know that'll get Frozone jacked up around here.
Frozone's going to have to.

Speaker 1 You're going to be able to see his excitement through the Frozone costume potentially, Frozone.

Speaker 3 You can get 14 if you want.

Speaker 1 Okay, you can get 14 if you like the Rams. Are you going to do that? Who's house?

Speaker 1 That was Frozone in the back area. Yeah, we're able to catch it.

Speaker 1 If Holster mentioned Sean Clifford, Tyler Schuck's about to get fucking destroyed by this Rams defense. They're fresh off the buy, and they just, before the buy, beat the shit out of the Jaguars.

Speaker 1 So Tyler Schuck played a lot of football in college. He's been there and done that.
He has seen it. You talk about Sean Clifford playing a lot of college ball.
Tyler Schuck as well.

Speaker 1 And they talked about him being drafted. Well, why'd you draft him that late if he's going to be your starting quarterback? Well, he wasn't going to start the season.

Speaker 1 Obviously, they had the Rattler in there. And then now Rattler's out.
Tyler Shuck coming in. I think Kelly Moe believes this is potentially a guy.
That was the convo going in.

Speaker 1 We shall see against this Rams defense that he's been hungry and eating. The young boys are very good over there.
I like the Rams minus 14.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I like the Rams minus 14 as well.

Speaker 1 Okay, Kansas City Chiefs taking on the Buffalo Bills. 52.5 point over-under.
Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes always perform against each other very well.

Speaker 1 Two and a half points are what the Chiefs heading into Buffalo are favored it as. How do you feel about it, AJ? Is there any other lines or any other piece of information we should know, Tone?

Speaker 3 Yeah, that two and a half actually just disappeared. So you can get the Chiefs minus one and a half or you can get the Bills at plus two.

Speaker 1 Okay, so AJ, whenever you think about this game, what are your first thoughts?

Speaker 2 Like I said earlier, this seems like one of those games where the Beals might find a way to win at home and then the Chiefs get them later when it really matters.

Speaker 2 But I have a feeling, I think the Chiefs continue to roll. I'll give me the Chiefs minus one and a half.

Speaker 1 Okay, on that note, there's a little piece of news coming from the back room. Pacheco has not practiced.

Speaker 1 Here's the injury report for the Kansas City Chiefs. Josh Shim and Isaiah Pacheco knee did not participate on Wednesday or on Thursday.
All eyes will be on Pacheco here on this Friday.

Speaker 1 Now, what they're listed as at practice, big storyline. Yeah.
Big storyline. Because we all thought what we saw last night with Lamar Jackson was actually coming back on Sunday.

Speaker 1 And then all of a sudden that wasn't the case. And we all knew, though.
We all knew that what Lamar was going to do.

Speaker 1 We all knew what he was going to do. Ravens get a big time win with Huntley.
Lamar does this thing last night.

Speaker 1 Now everybody's going to have to properly document if you're a participant or you did not participate or if you're a limited participant.

Speaker 1 Well, he did every single rep that a scout team quarterback would do. That's full participate guy.

Speaker 1 And then the NFL goes, no, full participant from that guy would be starting quarterback, full participation.

Speaker 2 That's actually limited participation because he's doing is that in the rulebook?

Speaker 1 I have no idea.

Speaker 1 It will be now.

Speaker 1 The NFL is fine the Baltimore Ravens $100,000 for violating the league's injury report policy by incorrectly listing quarterback Lamar Jackson's practice participation status on Friday, October 24th, one week ago from this moment right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they said because he was a scout team quarterback, what the Ravens said was he was our scout team quarterback and he did everything

Speaker 1 they're like full participant and then the nfl goes that ain't how this he's lamar jackson yeah so if you go full participant he's obviously full participant should just take him out one series taking him out for one series what he say he was limited don't take every rep as a scout team quarterback well they're well i think what the nfl is saying is that baltimore is trying to lie to people to say lamar was full participant so they thought lamar was going to be play i think is what the nfl yeah oh yeah i

Speaker 1 yeah i don't know that is the kind of we haven't heard that before no that's why i I think that they find him because, hey, you can't be lying about what participation is.

Speaker 1 I don't know, though.

Speaker 2 Like, that's weird because I know people coming back from injury, like, hey, you're not going to play your position, but

Speaker 2 go take some reps, go run the carded reps. Like, you're a wideout.
You can, maybe you can run some 75% routes and see how you feel.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I don't think if you're a starter, you could be listed as a limited participant is what

Speaker 1 or as a full participant. You have to be listed as a limited participant because you're on scout team, not on starting team.
I get it. No, I get it.
We just learned this.

Speaker 1 Just learned learned this through the lamar jackson situation thank you lamar thank you lamar and the bottom game thank you lamar and the nfl getting the bottom of it because we need more accurate information when we're making these picks yeah it's not just us a lot of people trying to make these picks and then are the a lot of stuff coming out about

Speaker 1 what happened in basketball and then what happened over in turkish soccer yeah oh not the soccer one's low under the radar Well, we certainly saw it because it involved a lot of people and certainly a sport we cover on a regular basis.

Speaker 2 There's other basketball people involved, too. It seems like we're just

Speaker 2 at the beginning.

Speaker 1 Oh, tip of iceberg. We'll get to ball.
Yeah. I don't love that.

Speaker 2 No, it sucks, actually.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it does suck. I don't like that that's potential.

Speaker 2 And even people that may be completely innocent and just popped into something, their name might get dragged into it too.

Speaker 1 You always mention that whenever there's other things talked about.

Speaker 2 The Epstein thing I have said that about.

Speaker 1 Like, hey, there has to be some people. They assume that there's a lot of people

Speaker 2 naive people that showed up and thought, hey, I can, let me talk ball and physics with this guy. And then all of a sudden, bam, there he is.

Speaker 1 And he get out of there. Hopefully.
And you're saying that same thing here in this situation.

Speaker 2 I'm saying in the card game, that could happen.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because there could be people at card games that are actually getting taken. I think that's from the victims.

Speaker 1 I think there's another round that's going to come where I think a victim of one of these games is going to be accused of actually rigging the game.

Speaker 1 And then that person's going to have to come out and say, no, actually, I have $250,000 I lost in this entire thing. I'm actually the victim in this entire thing.

Speaker 1 I think there's a chance that that's going to start happening. Because there's going to be a lot of of potential misconstruing of information.
But also, maybe it's over. Maybe that's all they got.

Speaker 1 Could be. Maybe that's all they got.
Hopefully, maybe.

Speaker 1 Hopefully, for the good of sport, that's all it is. You like the Chiefs or the Bills?

Speaker 2 I like the Chiefs here.

Speaker 1 Give me the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 I couldn't pick the Chiefs last week because you did.

Speaker 1 Chief rolled out running back Isaiah Pacheco and Josh Shimmins for Sunday's game at Buffalo. I'll take the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 1 What can I get them at?

Speaker 3 Buffalo Bills plus two.

Speaker 1 They always win the regular season, one.

Speaker 2 It does seem to be that way. It's always cool this game, too.

Speaker 1 Two points could be a one-point game. What's the weather like?

Speaker 2 Are we having any situations? Is it getting cold and windy and anywhere?

Speaker 1 I think it's still like 50 and sunny in the northeast. No, I don't know about that.
That roll cluster, but it will be a thing later on, obviously.

Speaker 2 It will.

Speaker 1 Yeah, not for the Chiefs, though. The Chiefs are their stadium's ass, too.
I mean, they're cold as hell. Remember the Dolphins? That was when

Speaker 1 it all kind of started going around.

Speaker 3 People's fingies fell off.

Speaker 2 Remember when Coach McDaniel came to the old studio?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was cool, man. That was great.
We believed from the moment. We did.
He came in. We liked the way his attitude was.
People do. Loved it.

Speaker 1 He kind of felt like an outlaw, you know, just kind of his own man, his own being. Wasn't going to change for anybody.
And last night he's chewing people out.

Speaker 1 It's like, yeah, he's got a little fire in there, too. He's fired up.

Speaker 1 Who's that? Coach.

Speaker 2 Oh, that's the older. Question is, if they move on from him, does he get another head coaching opportunity anytime anytime soon?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 1 Don't think so. Well, ex-Hulkster is seen in the future.
He's going to coordinate. Thank you, Hulkster, for that.
You bet. They talked about that at the Football Gods meeting.

Speaker 1 And then, so we're both on the Chiefs. And then Seattle Seahawks taking on the Washington Commanders Sunday night football.
Two and a half point favorites for the Seattle Seahawks.

Speaker 1 Is there any other lines out there, Ton?

Speaker 3 Yeah, if you want the Commanders, you can get three.

Speaker 1 Okay, AJ, Washington Commanders at home getting three points. Or Seattle Seahawks favored by two and a half on the road.
Gut Con. I believe Jaden Daniels is playing Terry McLaurin out.

Speaker 1 Okay, Terry McLaurin, no. Commanders announcing Jaden Daniels will start.
Yes. How's that change anything you're saying?

Speaker 1 The Seattle Seahawks team, very good at the football, have had massive wins on the road on a very regular basis under this McDonald coach. I think he won like his first nine or ten away games.

Speaker 1 And I still don't know if that streak is going right at this moment. I should know better by at this point of the season.
But Seattle's a real deal. And they're going into Washington.

Speaker 1 Two and a half point favorites. AJ, who do you like? How do you like it?

Speaker 2 So I am fully on the Seattle Seahawks bandwagon, JSN, Sam Darnold. I love what they're doing.
I think their defense flies around. Give me Seattle.

Speaker 1 I will take the...

Speaker 2 It's hard because I love Dan Quinn and Jaden and what they do, but I just, man, Seattle, they got something to them.

Speaker 1 They're wearing their throwbacks. Seattle's wearing theirs.

Speaker 2 Like these right there that we see right here?

Speaker 1 No, no, like the real throwbacks, like Chantae. They're letting them bring back the old logo and everything.
Hulkster, how accurate? Oh, Washington is. Do you know? How accurate or what?

Speaker 1 Washington's bringing back their old logo. That's what this guy just said.
Is that right? It's throwback night? Yeah, yeah, they're letting them. How likely is this telling the truth? Yes.

Speaker 1 Because I made a show that said Steelers Super Bowl. Remember?

Speaker 1 I do remember that. As it stands, you're looking at about a 78% chance that they go in, dude.
Okay, not just going in, but telling the truth.

Speaker 1 Like, if I was to shoot this and say, hey, this is for Seattle minus two and a half or whatever, and it goes in, how likely is that to be a factual piece of information from the basketball gods, football gods, or just St.

Speaker 1 Peter, Jesus Christ, and big man as a whole? Unfortunately, it's only about 50% of the time. It's basically whatever these guys are feeling.
Now, I will say, if I get

Speaker 1 17, 18 real American beers in these guys, I can kind of push them whichever way I want. So, I like you guys.
You know what I mean? You make this thing.

Speaker 1 Let's just say

Speaker 1 the world is your oyster. Okay, I like that.
I like the Seahawks. Minus two and a half.

Speaker 2 Oh, wow. That look good.

Speaker 1 All right. I'll take the Commanders.
Okay, dude. Plus three.

Speaker 1 I think that's what that is for me this game.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 either team could be really good. I think Seattle's more consistently good.

Speaker 1 Give me the Seahawks. I'll take the Seattle Seahawks.
Minus two and a half, actually.

Speaker 3 It looks like they are 10-1 on the road under McDonald and nine in a row.

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah. So give me them.
What is that?

Speaker 1 Got to be a record.

Speaker 2 No, I mean, like, I would assume other coaches come to him like, hey, why are you so good on the road? What are you doing?

Speaker 1 Yeah, locking out. Just locking out the outside noise.
I guess. They treat every game like a bull week, brother.
Every week is a celebration. How is that Hulkster?

Speaker 2 How do they win on the road and other teams are poop on the road?

Speaker 1 Their coach is a fucking psycho, for one. I wouldn't want to see that guy in a squared circle.
He was like a mean son of a bitch. But like the kind of guy who everybody still respects him.

Speaker 1 They still love him. But you don't want to cross that guy.
You know, that might be a guy I'd like to get drunk with and get into a bar fight with. You know, maybe he'd have my back.

Speaker 1 He's a good coach. I mean, what else do you want me to say?

Speaker 1 Take chemistry.

Speaker 1 Happy Halloween, Oxford. Happy Halloween.
Happy Halloween on you guys. Well, dude.
All right, let's get the hell out of here. AJ, thanks for traveling out.
Good to see you.

Speaker 1 Good to see you. All right.
Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change your life.
We're in this thing together. Big one tomorrow morning in Utah.
Can't wait to get out there.

Speaker 1 Can't wait to get a trick-or-treat with the baby girl tonight. Fuck yeah, dude.
It's going to be so cool. All right.
Let's enjoy this all, shall we? See you guys on Overreaction Monday.

Speaker 1 Have an incredible weekend of ball. And hopefully they'll get their deal done.

Speaker 1 Get the deal done. Get the deal done.
Nobody's really talking about it. A lot of people head over there for Sunday ticket because it's currently on YouTube TV.
Quad Box, made for sports fans.

Speaker 1 Red Zone channel over there. A lot of football fans over there.
I assume YouTube TV knows that. So going into a weekend with a lot of ball, it's like, let's figure that out.

Speaker 1 We need to figure that out. I don't know who's,

Speaker 1 you know, holding it all up. I don't know which side's which.
I've seen messages from people saying, hey, need to go to this website, do something. I don't know if that helps with negotiations.

Speaker 1 It does. It's a waste of time.

Speaker 1 A hulkster, you don't know, heavenly hulkster, you don't know if I guess you do now. I do.
We got real good fiber up in heaven. I was like, this is weird, dude.

Speaker 1 Why are we, you know, beholding to have to have like YouTube TV up here? Don't you got like Jesus TV or something where we don't have commercials, don't have any of that stuff.

Speaker 1 To me, sounds like we got two greedy corporate fat cats, and it's time for them to put their swords down because if we don't have football on Saturday, there's going to be bedlam.

Speaker 1 Brother, tell you. We need it.
Be a friend, tell a friend something nice might change your life. We're in this thing together for sports.
Never forget it. We appreciate you all.
Team on me.

Speaker 1 Anything to say, AJ?

Speaker 2 Better one next week.

Speaker 1 Good one today.

Speaker 1 Better one next week.

Speaker 1 Hawks are anything to say? Yes, you, dickhead, not me.

Speaker 1 Team on three. One, two, three, team.
Goodbye.

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