PMS 2.0 1441 - TNF Preview, Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry, Nebraska Head Coach Matt Rhule, Pete Thamel, Mike McCarthy, & AJ Hawk

Speaker 1 Hello beautiful people and welcome to our spooky humble above the Thunderdo on this NFL week nine kickoff Thursday October 30th 2025 this program begins now

Speaker 1 Football it is spooky though and football kicks off week nine of its NFL season this evening as the Baltimore Ravens with Lamar Jackson back at quarterback go down to his hometown of Miami to take on the Dolphins as seven and a half point favorites now Lamar Jackson spoke very candidly this week about kicking all the bullshit out of the locker room.

Speaker 1 Okay, if we're winning, maybe it's not a problem. We're losing.
We need to lock in a little bit more. He was doing that whenever he wasn't even playing.

Speaker 1 Now, remember, had a hamstring injury a couple weeks back. Everybody saw him on the sideline not going to the game.
They thought, Lamar Jackson, this guy quit on team.

Speaker 1 This guy quit on the team. Turns out that ended up being about a month-long hamstring injury, including a bye-week and then a missed game post that.

Speaker 1 Now he's back on a Thursday night in Miami in a must-win game for this Baltimore Ravens team. And everybody thinks that they're going to must-win and will win.

Speaker 1 The Sports Books still have the Baltimore Ravens as the favorites to win the AFC North, even though they're two and five or whatever the hell it is at this point.

Speaker 1 But they're going to rattle off a bunch of wins, what the Sports Books thinks. And the reason is because Lamar Jackson is special and maybe the defense has figured out how to play football.

Speaker 1 Patrick Ricard being back for the Baltimore Ravens at fullback is a massive ordeal for the way they operate as well. Will tonight just be an absolute clobbering of the Miami Dolphins.

Speaker 1 Let's go to one half of the hammer. Damn.
Cowboys at Bubba Gumpino. He wore his full Dolphins costume today.
This is not Halloween.

Speaker 1 This is Victory Gumpy heading into a prime time matchup against Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens. Last week, you guys played the best game you guys have played in a long, long time.

Speaker 1 Vibes, obviously, immaculate. Can't enjoy an entire Victory week, you know, because the game's on Thursday, not on Sunday.
You got four good days of celebration here.

Speaker 1 What did you see from the boys last week against the Falcons that make you think, you know what? Why not the Miami Dolphins going forward?

Speaker 1 And how do you like your chances against the Baltimore Ravens, old gumps?

Speaker 2 All season, we couldn't stop the run and we couldn't run the football. Last week, we did both at a very high level.
Got to keep doing that.

Speaker 2 Let me tell you about the last time the Ravens came into Miami on Thursday night.

Speaker 2 They're about 12 and a half point favorites. Everyone said we were going to get crushed.
Boys are going to get it done tonight. We're riding this down, Adam.
The Finns are going right now.

Speaker 2 That was the best game I've seen them play all three phases last week in a long, long time.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, thanks for telling us about it.
You know, we do appreciate you telling us what the Dolphins did last time against the Baltimore Ravens on Thursday night.

Speaker 1 Feels different just strictly because Lamar Jackson being backed and the vibes and kind of the culture with the Baltimore Ravens are currently at.

Speaker 1 Obviously, a lot of people in Baltimore, and I don't want to speak for the entire fan base, but it feels like Harbaugh's potentially on a, you know, hey, hey, we got a win.

Speaker 1 And Lamar Jackson, seemingly with the rest of the locker room and the culture, hey, hey.

Speaker 1 We got to win. And on defensive side, it's, hey, hey, are we playing Baltimore Ravens Ravens football or not over here?

Speaker 1 I couldn't even imagine the conversations that have taken place behind closed doors over there with the amount of outside pressure that could be creeping into that entire beautiful castle they got over there as a practice facility.

Speaker 1 But tonight's a huge one in prime time

Speaker 1 on Amazon Prime with Kirk and Al and Kaylee Hartong on the call, Carissa Thompson, Richard Sherman, who don't look now. I think he's going to be in studio here soon.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I do believe Richard Sherman's coming through the Thunderdome. Shout out to Fitz and Witt and then Tony Gonzalez as well.

Speaker 1 They got a great show, and I think tonight is going to provide a lot of opportunity. They're going to be down in Miami.
It's supposed to be 80 degrees. Woo! Clear skies down in Miami.

Speaker 1 The toxic tables here at Boston Conner, at Ty Schmidt. Feels like we're going to have a good game tonight.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 I'm so excited to see Lamar again. It's one of those things you kind of forget about, especially when he, you know, misses games.
Ravens have a slow start, and then you forget what Lamar can do.

Speaker 3 And you mentioned Patrick Ricard.

Speaker 3 AQ Shipley came in here yesterday, bitching and moaning about his skeleton, but also about the fact that the Ravens now with Patrick Ricard has completely changed their entire team.

Speaker 3 But I'll tell you what about Gumpy's point, you know, you go one and five to three and five in six days. All of a sudden, those Miami Dolphins

Speaker 3 do look like they're building something because, you know, they beat the Atlanta Falcons and, you know, Kirk Cousins, but that defense is very good, and they hung 30 on them.

Speaker 3 So all of a sudden, hold on. Miami might be up to something as well.

Speaker 1 And Baltimore's defense obviously has not been performing that fantastically, which is very abnormal for the Baltimore Ravens as a whole.

Speaker 1 And you look at the records, you don't have a lot of wins at the top of this thing.

Speaker 1 You don't have a lot of wins at the 2-5, 2-6. Thursday night, prime time, the NFL fresh off its biggest ass weekend in 55 years.
Now we got this crap on Thursday night is how you could view that.

Speaker 1 If you only look at the record, if you only look at the record, sure. Okay, if you only look at 2-5, 2-6.
We don't do that, though. No, you got to be deeper than that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You got to have some depth. You got to have culture, which is why I can't wait to show you one half of the hammer.
Done, cowboys. What's the line saying about tonight in your eyes?

Speaker 1 What's the percentage of money on who? Ladies and gentlemen, brand new AP

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're cooking up something for tomorrow for Hallows Eve. So we got to get in the spirit.
But for tonight, seven and a half across the board. Ravens are the favorites on the road.

Speaker 1 68% of the money is on the Ravens.

Speaker 1 If that was earlier in the season, when it was just a historically bad sign, if the public money was over 60% on you. But this last week it went five and six.

Speaker 1 If you 60 plus percent of the bets, five and six last week, the teams were the Chiefs on Monday night football were getting 69% and they absolutely blew them out.

Speaker 1 So I don't know if that's a bad thing anymore. Ravens tonight at Dolphins 7.5.
Okay, so obviously everybody's going to love the Ravens here because Lamar Jackson's back. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's what you're going to get. And also, what do we think of whenever we think of Miami?

Speaker 1 We think of McDaniel walking down that tunnel with his little off-white shoe shoe tags just kind of bombing around while he's going out. We love McDaniel.
He was awesome for football.

Speaker 1 He is still awesome for football.

Speaker 1 And obviously, his brain is kind of all over the NFL right now with the emotions and the shifts and how much he changed and transformed what defenses have to do pre-snap, during snap, and immediately after snap.

Speaker 1 He was really an innovator. I think everybody would say, which is why he is and was and became the head coach for the Miami Dolphins.
But boy, it was a lot more fun when they were good.

Speaker 1 You know, the McDaniel experience was a lot more fun whenever they were good. Hopefully, maybe primetime, we get the battle of the best here.
Lamar at his best, McDaniel and Tu at their best.

Speaker 1 Does he have a visor on tonight? Do we know if Tu is wearing a visor like he was on Sunday?

Speaker 2 Running it back with the visor. 1-0 with the visor.
He said, I'm doing it. Boys want me to keep wearing it.
I'm going to keep doing it.

Speaker 1 That's very smart. Okay, Ty, last night World Series felt like we're talking about Canada's baseball team.
Maybe handling the 18-inning game a lot better than the Dodgers.

Speaker 1 Is that what we're seeing on the field?

Speaker 4 Yeah, it certainly looks like that. Dodgers still look a little bit sleepy.
The Blue Jays look like they got a lot of juice. First pitch of the game.
First pitch of the game.

Speaker 4 Davis Schneider leadoff homer off Blake Snell. That's okay, though.

Speaker 5 That happens sometimes. Boom.

Speaker 1 Third pitch of the game.

Speaker 4 Vladdy Guerrero lines one into the Dodgers bullpen.

Speaker 1 That's a pot of pot.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, literally the worst start imaginable.

Speaker 5 Couldn't, couldn't, I guess

Speaker 4 two homers and two pitches, maybe you could argue would be worse, but same deal.

Speaker 4 But then the real story of the game is after that, Blue Jays rookie pitcher, Trey Yasavich, he set a bunch of records last night, just absolutely dominated the Dodgers.

Speaker 4 He threw seven innings, three hits, one earned run.

Speaker 5 He did give up a homer early, and then settled down after that.

Speaker 4 12 strikeouts.

Speaker 4 That's the big thing. He is the first pitcher in World Series history to have a 12 strikeout, zero walk game.

Speaker 4 And he also set the World Series rookie record for strikeouts in a a game with 12 that is a record that has stood since 1949 those are stats for

Speaker 4 this guy is unbelievable uh just you know another kind of a fun stat here treya savage he so he made his debut on september 15th so he he has not been in the big leagues for very long at all his base salary this year is seven hundred and sixty thousand dollars on the other side blake snell who you know big free agent signing for the dodgers his base salary this year is twenty six million dollars so they're they're not expecting this guy to do this.

Speaker 4 And he has one of the best performances in the history of the World Series. Blue Jays win 6-1, and now they're going back to Toronto with a 3-2 lead.

Speaker 1 Did you say $26 million on a loser? Yeah, exactly. Jeez.

Speaker 1 That's $53 million on a loser down there in the bayou.

Speaker 1 Now, Governor Jeff Landry obviously went very viral and became a mega subject of conversation due to a press conference where he chit-chatted about the future of the LSU head coaching vacancy.

Speaker 6 The first question is absolutely correct. We are not going down a failed path.
And I want to tell you something.

Speaker 6 This is a pattern.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 6 The guy that's here now that wrote that contract

Speaker 6 cost Texas A ⁇ M 70-something million dollars.

Speaker 6 Right now, we got a $53 million liability. We are not doing that again.
And you know what? I believe. I believe that we're going to find a great coach.
Maybe we'll let President Trump pick it.

Speaker 6 He loves winners. You know, I'm not going to be picking the next coach.

Speaker 6 But I can promise you, we're going to pick a coach

Speaker 6 and we're going to make sure that that coach is successful and we're going to make sure that he's compensated properly and we're going to put metrics on it because I'm tired of rewarding failure in this country and then leaving the taxpayers on the foot, you know, to foot the bill.

Speaker 1 So yeah, I absolutely.

Speaker 7 Who's that? Scott Woodward.

Speaker 6 No, I can tell you right now, Scott Woodward is not selecting the next coach. Hell, I'll let Donald Trump select it before I let him do it.

Speaker 6 I don't know, but the Board of Supervisors is going to come up with a committee and they're going to go find us a coach.

Speaker 1 Because wait, wait, wait, wait. I want to, hold on, hold on.
One real quick thing on that.

Speaker 6 Because here's what y'all reporters need to do. Y'all need to start looking at who represents all these people.

Speaker 6 Like these agents. You know what's interesting? If I'm not mistaken, Woodard's agent, Kelly's agent, the Texas ANMA, they're all the same agent.

Speaker 6 Like, you realize if I would be, I don't know how y'all, how many sports writers we got here today?

Speaker 6 Just you. We should have a bunch.

Speaker 1 Okay?

Speaker 6 Like, this is ridiculous. Lawyers would be this bored for the way these agents act and the way they're able to represent.

Speaker 6 In fact, they may, there's no doubt, they may even represent some of the players now.

Speaker 6 Like, it's really time for the NCA to put on some guardrails in college sports. Because it is fine.
We don't need the guardrails. If big billionaires want to spend all that kind of money, no problem.

Speaker 6 But if I got to go find $53 million from Kim, it's not going to be a pleasant conversation.

Speaker 1 I'm just telling you, I'm like, I know.

Speaker 6 And I think that that's important as well. Y'all should start looking into that.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, said governor, Jeff Landry.

Speaker 1 How are you, Governor Landry? You really stirred the pot here today, Governor. You really stirred the pot.

Speaker 8 It's ridiculous. It really is, Pat.
Thank you for having me this morning.

Speaker 8 You know, you know, the sad part is there's two groups of people that seem to not be, we're not talking about in this equation one it's the players it's the great players that we brought to lsu and the great players that are lsu tigers right now and that have to operate under all of this chaos and i tell you i look i feel for them i really really do we want to make sure that those boys get back on the field we want them playing football for the for the love of the game and then the second group is the fans because the thing that really started us off was saturday night after the texas a m loss i'm laying in bed and i'm like ah this is a mess telling my wife because the worst time for the louisiana governor is when the lsu football team is losing okay it's a bad day for me or whoever the governor is and she says do you know the board of supervisors raised the ticket prices on friday i was like what yeah for next year's i'm like no we're not doing that because what fills tiger stadiums are not billionaires What fills Tiger Stadiums are nurses, plant workers, welders, fitters, truck drivers.

Speaker 8 Those are the people that go to Tiger Stadium to to be entertained, to watch a great game of football.

Speaker 8 And we should not be piling all of these millions upon millions upon tens of millions of dollars of contracts on the backs of them.

Speaker 1 Okay, so governor, thank you for saying that. And I think your fans will be appreciative of that.
College football fans will be appreciative of that. And thank you for your time.

Speaker 1 Let's kind of get into this a little bit more with everything you just said. And then you said at your press conference.
So the governor runs the state schools. Is that accurate?

Speaker 1 So ultimately, you are boss at LSU.

Speaker 1 Is that a fair assessment? Because I don't know that this is a legitimate question whenever I say this.

Speaker 8 Yeah, so we've got a number of four-year universities in the state of Louisiana, and each LSU has their own board. It's called the Board of Supervisors.

Speaker 8 It's appointed by the governor under staggered terms. So really, I'm the one that appoints them.

Speaker 8 They then appoint the president and the AD, and the decisions that are made at the university are really made by the board, but there are appointees that represent me. That's pretty much the same way.

Speaker 8 I think it happens around the state, around the country. I know that's how it happens in Texas as well.
The governor's in charge of appointing the board of regents of, say, A ⁇ M and UT.

Speaker 1 Okay, so you have the board of supervisors there at LSU.

Speaker 1 You said in your press conference that they will either find a committee to find the coach or they will select a coach in that entire process. Are you in there at all?

Speaker 1 Because I think people are saying, because you said in there, I'm not picking a coach. You said, I'm not picking a coach, but other people have picked a coach.
I'm not.

Speaker 1 Now, do you feel, though, that immediately upon you speaking about it, everybody thinks to themselves, Governor Leandre wants to pick a coach? That is kind of what people get worried about.

Speaker 1 That is not what you were saying at all, right?

Speaker 8 No.

Speaker 8 Listen, emphatically, I am not picking a coach. That is not my job.

Speaker 8 The only reason I'm really involved, Pat, is because this contract that currently is between the state of Louisiana, the Louisiana State University System, and Brian Kelly leaves the taxpayers of the state on the bill.

Speaker 8 There's misinformation out there. People are saying, oh, no, the taxpayers aren't liable.
They're not reading the contract.

Speaker 8 On Sunday, I had a meeting with the lawyers as they were talking about whether or not Brian Kelly was terminated, whether we were going to fire him.

Speaker 8 And all I cared about were the taxpayers of our estate. And that contract binds the state of Louisiana.

Speaker 8 If we have to pay $53 million and somebody else doesn't step up to foot that bill, the state of Louisiana has to foot that bill. That is in the contract.

Speaker 1 Okay, so on that note, as you know now, I assume you were told this, Texas A ⁇ M's coach Jimbo has an agent and Brian Kelly has an agent.

Speaker 1 Now, I think Brian Kelly's agent potentially also works with Scott Woodward. Let's talk about that, the athletic director, because you would assume at most places

Speaker 1 the athletic director would be the one that's picking the coach. You emphatically saying absolutely not.

Speaker 1 Is it because the contract and what you learned about what he had done in the past, or is it strictly because we can't have a situation look like this again with the 53 million?

Speaker 1 Because I think a lot of people have said, Scott's the athletic director for a reason.

Speaker 1 You're going to have people that aren't in athletics now making an athletics decision do you view it that way and why do you think that is kind of uh how it's going to go

Speaker 8 and look let's unpackage that let's talk about num number one there's a number of bad contracts that seem to have followed scott woodard okay number two his agent and brian kelly's agent are the same agent that's a little something else that's misinformation out there i believe that armstrong represents them both i don't even know if armstrong represents some of our players in in the legal profession that is called a conflict of interest.

Speaker 8 How can I trust my athletic director

Speaker 8 whose agent also represents some of the candidates that are out there?

Speaker 8 You would think that if the Board of Supervisors gave what are the lists of five coaches that are looking to come to LSU, and three or two or one of those coaches is the same agent that he has.

Speaker 8 Who do you think is going to make that list? That is a problem in college sports. Look, in the NFL, those agents are capped at 3%.
I think in the MLB, they are. In the NCA, there's no cap.

Speaker 8 And these are kids that we're dealing with. These are young people.

Speaker 8 Pat, it's time for the NCAA to start putting some guardrails around all this money. They are ruining one of the best sports in America.

Speaker 9 I mean,

Speaker 8 college football is the quintessential of football in America. And there's no guardrails.

Speaker 1 I love that you are the Louisiana governor and you love college football. Feels like that should be a prerequisite.

Speaker 1 Feels like that probably should be in a lot of those states down there in the SEC because, you know, it is different down there with how you're raised. And every place is a cult.

Speaker 1 I mean, that is just, that is literally how it is down there because there's no professional sports.

Speaker 1 What you were saying about the guardrails for all this money, you know, that is something that I think everybody that is involved with college football says, yes, we need that. We need that.

Speaker 1 But they all say.

Speaker 1 D.C. needs to do something.
You guys are saying the NCAA, but everybody that's in the sport says, we need DC to put some federal ruling into this thing if we actually wanted to make it work.

Speaker 1 Will this be something that maybe Governor Jeff Landry maybe takes on and maybe

Speaker 1 takes on with the back pocket?

Speaker 8 Well, look, look, I'm hoping that we can. create a contract with a great coach at LSU that can be the template.

Speaker 8 Maybe that's what needs to break in order for somebody to come over here and say, listen, we're going to start building contracts based on performance-based.

Speaker 8 I have no problem compensating these coaches, even at the level that we're talking about, as long as we're winning.

Speaker 8 The problem with the nca and congress look i've been in congress look politicians love to kick the can down the road it makes me a little difference i don't like it i like to step on a can i like to solve the problem but maybe the ncaa congress should hold a meeting and say okay who's in charge here but the ncaa could absolutely There's no reason that they cannot step in and create the guardrails.

Speaker 8 They've got great laws. They pay them a lot of money.
Okay. Look through the federal guidelines.
Look at what the Supreme Court says and come up with some guardrails.

Speaker 8 Somebody just has to step up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, somebody has to step on a can, you know, instead of cans kind of going back and forth here.

Speaker 1 And if we know anything about both parties, just as somebody that's not been involved in DC or in the NCAA, outside looking in, not a lot of hope in either of you finding it done.

Speaker 1 But hopefully that could be different. Hopefully that could be different, Governor Jeffrey Lander.
We can hope that's the case. Last question here.

Speaker 1 You just talked about you're not worried about paying a guy or a woman or a coach, whoever you hire,

Speaker 1 an amount of money if they're winning. I would like to let you know, and you probably know this, the guy that did the Texas A ⁇ M deal, that agent over there, he reps a lot of coaches.

Speaker 1 He's got a lot of coaches. I think a couple of the coaches that you probably want down there, the Battle Rouge are going to be in there.
When you say setting the Templar, what do you mean by that?

Speaker 1 Legitimately, what do you mean by that?

Speaker 8 Well, legitimately, I think that everyone is in agreement here in the state of Louisiana that the next coach that we hire is going to have a patently different contract.

Speaker 8 If that agent can't see what's coming down the pipe in a way that look, these big name coaches, they're big names because they win. What are they afraid of? Right?

Speaker 8 If you're the best, you shouldn't have to worry. You say, guess what? I'm putting my reputation on the line.
And when I win, this is how much money I want. There's no guarantee.
This sets it in.

Speaker 8 The way the contracts are structured now tells a guy, listen, you know, in five years, he might get tired of doing it.

Speaker 8 He's like, he doesn't have to worry about coaching because he's like, look, as long as I kind of go through the motions, I get another five years at $10 million a year. That's not a bad gig, Pat.

Speaker 8 If y'all boys over there are giving great entertainment to ESPN and we don't get to, we don't enjoy watching you know, which we absolutely do, guess what happens? You lose sponsors.

Speaker 8 That's the free market.

Speaker 1 All right. I appreciate where your head's at.
I think you're up against it, though, Governor. I just want to let you know, I think you're up against it.

Speaker 1 I appreciate the fact that you're in a position, though, to potentially drive some change in all these things to make our sports world even better. But

Speaker 1 I think it's a freight train that's already kind of been run away, Governor.

Speaker 1 Well, I know, I know, but Pat, listen, every one of you all okay all of the sports commentators everyone who's in sports and even former coaches have been consistently saying this and current coaches and i can current coaches too yeah yes yes everybody's saying somebody you gotta do it though governor yeah somebody needs to kick hey somebody you step on a can governor that's what step on a can you're the man we're stepping on a can hey we appreciate you joining us and explaining yourself a little bit more it's crazy that the taxpayers the state are on the hook for that contract if somebody doesn't pay it i wonder how normal that is that's insane to hear actually.

Speaker 1 And I can see why the governor would be like, oh, ho, this guy, he's got ruins a Saturday in Baton Rouge. We lose the Texas state by 50.
This guy ruins everybody lives. And then we got to up taxes.

Speaker 1 Who did the contract?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that is a hilarious turn of events. We appreciate you looking into it.
Hopefully you can drive some change to make sure this sport that you're saying could potentially be getting ruined.

Speaker 1 Ratings are only up and to the right, Governor. Things are only getting better.

Speaker 1 Just the back end needs cleaned up good luck out there in your fight on that and everything else and also gator hunt good luck out there with the gator hunt hey listen come hunt with us pat thank you so much we love watching y'all guys you're the man ladies and gentlemen governor jeff land yeah governor

Speaker 1 that guy's a character

Speaker 1 certainly that guy is an absolute character yeah he he is just himself like what he's saying

Speaker 1 as you see him is how he is in every room that I've seen him in. Gumpy's seen him in a couple different rooms.
We go down to LSU,

Speaker 1 obviously.

Speaker 1 And I say this again, anytime you can go somewhere with Coach Sabin, you know, when he's maybe, I don't know, a national championship there or six of them, okay, any of those types of things, and you can just kind of happen to just kind of sidecar that thing, you should do that.

Speaker 1 And we got to do that at LSU.

Speaker 1 You know, I met some of these people that are potentially going to have to step up so taxpayers don't have to pay $53 million or whatever the case is, because Coach Saban, obviously old friends with a lot of the people there.

Speaker 1 It's where he, before he goes to Alabama or before he goes to Miami, he's at LSU, wins a national championship there.

Speaker 1 And then the way they talk about Governor Jeff Landry, okay, because that was in the middle of having a live tiger on the sideline. Okay, so that was a big conversation.

Speaker 1 Governor Jeff Lander with governor, then he was out, and then Governor Jeff Landry back in. And then Governor Jeff Landry said, my childhood,

Speaker 1 some of my best moments with my family when

Speaker 1 that lair, what's the tiger's name?

Speaker 1 Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, the Tiger will roar. Oh, everybody's go crazy.

Speaker 1 I want a tiger back on the sideline.

Speaker 1 and they're like well we can't do that obviously we got mike outside the stadium in his own sanctuary but inside the stadium they say because of the the loud and everything they don't like i i won't we won't tiger do it only let's get a tiger and that was happening the week game day was going down there so i literally just learned this man's existence and also a governor just being like i don't care I want a live tiger out there.

Speaker 1 And then inevitably, live tiger was out there. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Now, there was a full conversation about how many potential tigers there were because there was protests happening that could have potentially stopped tigers from getting too sidelined.

Speaker 1 So I think there was potentially a situation happening, but Governor Jeff Landry, the people that I talk to in Louisiana, and I don't think it matters what the rest of the country thinks, what anybody, the people that I talk to that were talking about Jeff Landry, like, hey, Jeff's his own guy, but.

Speaker 1 Jeff gets shit done.

Speaker 1 That is literally what Jeff does. And I think it takes a lot of pride in the state of Louisiana.
You can hear the way he talks. They hear the way he acts every single time he talks like that.

Speaker 1 And are we, as the rest of the world, going to agree with everything that the governor of Louisiana has to say or how he operates I would doubt it Louisiana is its own country okay that is they're not the only state that's their own country but Louisiana is I mean we purchased it I don't yeah I don't even have to go back to the entirety of it all but Louisiana is a special place it is a dynamic place it is a unique place and it's like I appreciate the fact that his big thing was like we got to pay for this guy as well he taking his Mercedes back I don't think so

Speaker 1 yeah no consequences for the guy that hired him yeah

Speaker 1 exactly uh well so

Speaker 1 we know the guy that represented Jimbo out there in the Texas AM.

Speaker 1 And we know that he doesn't represent Brian Kelly. No.
And so whenever he was, look it up. If I'm mistaken, this guy everywhere.

Speaker 1 And now this guy is everywhere when they talk about Jimmy Sexton and the representing a coach's business and hey, who's going where and everything like that. But he just.

Speaker 1 There was a moment of clarity in there that had to be made. Like, hey, Jimmy ain't.
Now this guy, though, he also has got Nussmeier, i think allegedly the trace art the trace arms trouble

Speaker 1 yeah so you're talking about and that's what he

Speaker 1 and the governor is reading through these contract who who negotiated

Speaker 1 this guy got ad coach and quarterback

Speaker 1 we're getting had

Speaker 1 but also to that is what to his point where he said like he's not making the hire yeah uh he's responsible for the two biggest buyouts ever in college football history the ad is yes woodward yeah yeah crazy stuff all right well i'm excited to hear what people say he was wrong about in that conversation we just had with him And then that goes right to what Jeopardy said last night,

Speaker 1 which I guess, you know, this all kind of came together within the last 25 minutes. And we didn't piece it together.
But

Speaker 1 I've had the incredible opportunity to do a lot of things. The boys and I have gotten an opportunity to be in some wild places.

Speaker 1 We made an appearance last night in a world that we're not supposed to be in. Please run it, Foxy.
More than a football player for 600.

Speaker 1 A former all-pro punter, he's had some controversial guests on his self-named ESPN talk show. Aaron was McAfee.
That's right. Thank you, Aaron.
Hey, thank you, Aaron. Controversial guests.

Speaker 1 I think they were trying to say, hey, we don't love everything this show is about without completely burying me. You know, like the show, I think they were trying to balance that.

Speaker 1 We would like to say, the Jeopardy people, thank you for letting us know your awards.

Speaker 1 That's a huge deal. I shook my pants.
Yeah. That was a big one.
I get it. I got a text from somebody, Jeopardy.
And I was like, man, I'm missing a nice show, dude.

Speaker 1 And they're like, no, you were on there. I'm like, what? It was, that's a wild memory for us, dude.
That is. And then we just have the governor of Louisiana.

Speaker 1 And he goes, we didn't start fixing this. The NCAA can do this.
How? I don't know. I don't know if they can.

Speaker 4 I just, I remember, like, we had Charlie Baker in, like, maybe a little over a year ago in studio. And like you said, like, that was his whole thing.

Speaker 4 He was like, yeah, we kind of need the government to spearhead this. Like, we can't really do this.

Speaker 4 So it seems like, like you said, the NCAA and, you know, DC are kind of just pointing at each other saying, hey, you guys need to fix it. And you need to fix it now.

Speaker 4 So I don't know if it's going to get done anytime soon.

Speaker 1 Uh, I have no idea either. Uh, but good luck to all parties.
It's a lot to get figured out. Yeah, you got this.

Speaker 1 You got TV contracts, you got coaches' contracts, you got every, I mean, players' contracts now, you got

Speaker 1 billions and billions and billions of dollars, let alone the hundreds and thousands of tickets that are just sold in some places.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's so much, such a massive entity, such a massive entity, just be like, we can corral it. Let alone when you start tossing in all the others, basketball.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Women's softball down there in SEC and

Speaker 1 I guess Big 12, right? Because

Speaker 1 the whole thing. So, and then you start thinking about these sports, like where some of the teams make a lot of money, some of the other teams don't make a lot of money.

Speaker 1 How do you kind of corral that? How do you corral all of it? Governor Jeff Lenandre got there. Yeah, yeah, he's got it done.
He's going to step on that canyon, kicking that thing down the road.

Speaker 1 Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who just secured another bag via Pete Thamel's tweet. There's some breaking news out of the college football world.

Speaker 1 Nebraska coach Matt Rule signed a two-year contract extension this morning, which will take him through the 2032 season, includes a $15 million buyout this year that effectively eliminates him from any jobs in this coaching cycle.

Speaker 1 Interesting wording for Pete Thamel joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, the head coach of Nebraska, a man just signed two-year extension this morning. Matt Rule.

Speaker 1 What's up, fellas? Congratulations. I know obviously not the best outcome.
We don't want that. We want to win by 100 every single time, but congratulations on an extension with Nebraska.

Speaker 1 How'd we get to this point? How long has this been in the works? And congrats.

Speaker 1 You watched us read Pete Dammell's tweet. I don't think he was as celebratory as he should be.
Congratulations to you, bro. Hey rained your ass out of Carolina, bro.
Signing a new deal with Nebraska.

Speaker 1 Congratulations.

Speaker 11 No, thank you very much.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 11 we were on two, I think, two weeks ago and we talked about it. And I just, you know, I told you guys how much we love it here.

Speaker 11 You know, and to me, there's lots of great jobs, but very, very rarely in this business do you find a home. And

Speaker 11 we felt like Nebraska is our home. This program's our home.
I love these players. I love this place.

Speaker 11 RAD, Troy Dannon, has been amazing to me. Our president, Dr.
Gold. And I mean, it's just the alignment.
I mean,

Speaker 11 you see places that don't have alignment. We got amazing alignment and we're building.
And so

Speaker 11 I think after about week three,

Speaker 11 Troy started talking to me about it. And And I just was like, hey, I just got to focus on football.
But I appreciate it. They're betting on the future and we're doubling down.

Speaker 1 Congrats, man. That's very cool to hear.

Speaker 1 You've been this way about Nebraska since you got there. I think you were very excited.
There were other jobs that you could have had.

Speaker 1 And you also could have just become a professional golfer like some fired coaches have in the past and collected the check in it all.

Speaker 1 I'm excited that you're back in a place that you absolutely love over there in Nebraska. Fresh off beating Northwestern.
Congrats on a big-time win.

Speaker 1 Obviously, Northwestern had been shocking a lot of people. Got James Franklin's ass fired up there in Penn State.
Now you have huge game, obviously, USC at home, 730 on NBC.

Speaker 1 What's the mindset as you look down the last four games here, which are all pretty big down the stretch for your Nebraska Cornhuskers?

Speaker 11 Yeah, I think the thing that our team has learned, you know, and I think we unfortunately learned it the hard way at Minnesota

Speaker 11 and then, you know, is like, hey, parodies here at college football. Like, in the NFL, you know, if you have a winning record, you're probably going to make the playoffs.
We're pretty close.

Speaker 11 But you don't, you know,

Speaker 11 nine and eight is a good season. 10 and seven is a good season.
Perry's in college football. I mean, look, look at the teams that are in the top 10 that weren't there years ago.

Speaker 11 So every single week, you got to show up and play. I mean, you know, the days of beating people 45, some people are doing it, but not, I mean, I'm watching Texas the other night come back to win.

Speaker 11 I'm watching Alabama come back to win. It's just, you got to show up every single week.
And so we have four chances left.

Speaker 11 And this Saturday, you know, obviously it's an amazing opportunity for us to play a great USC team that's five and two. And they're probably the best offense I think I've ever seen.
So it'll be

Speaker 11 a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 You talk about the offense.

Speaker 1 I mean, you're talking about a one-man, Lincoln Riley. Go ahead, Con Man.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Coach, how's your relationship with Lincoln Riley? I believe you guys go back to the Baylor OU days, and you might have played a few times. I am not 100% sure about that, just like most things.

Speaker 3 But how do you approach an offense like that? Do you go back and look at all the games, you know, he called both at Oklahoma and, you know, with Caleb Williams and things of that nature?

Speaker 3 And how are you feeling, you know, going up against a guy that was such an offensive guru for so many years

Speaker 11 yeah i think he's brilliant i think he's a great guy um he was the offensive coordinator at east carolina and when i was at temple as the head coach so i mean going all the way back to the hit a great offense in east carolina and obviously at oh you and baylor so i had a chance to go against him there and um i i think he's one of the best uh offensive minds in football and um he does it so many different ways you know he he played one way with baker the next year he had kyler murray played a different way the next year he had jalen hurts and revamped his offense but at the end of the day he always scores points they run the football.

Speaker 11 And so, you know, for us,

Speaker 11 there's no secret formula. We got to play well.
We're going to have to play well on offense, defense. We've been playing great on special teams.
We have to keep that up.

Speaker 11 And, you know, get to the fourth quarter. Hopefully it's, you know, in the 20s.
It's freezing cold here on Saturday night. And

Speaker 11 I'll get to the, get to the fourth quarter and be ready to just go make one more play.

Speaker 1 It does feel like it's starting to become Big Ten weather time. You know, it's raining this morning.
The leaves are falling.

Speaker 1 You know, we've had these beautiful, majestic orange-pink pink leaves for like the last two weeks or so it has been great this morning rain wind goodbye bear ass trees terrible weather coming is it like that in nebraska right now as well

Speaker 11 Oh, yeah. You know, so I, so I wear shorts every day, Pat, and we don't, I don't use the indoor.
And if I ever can't handle the cold, I'm like, all right, guys, let's go in the indoor.

Speaker 11 So that's like my barometer. And yesterday, it was so, it was so cold yesterday that I walked over to Holgus and I was like, Dana, do you want to go inside? And he said, no, I love it out here.

Speaker 11 I was like, oh, my gosh. I mean, it was debilitatingly cold and windy.
So, you know, but that's again, you've heard me complain, like, that's football. Like, it wasn't meant to be played all the time.

Speaker 11 Every game wasn't meant to be played indoors or in the sun. Like, you got to deal with this.
And so, I'm fired up to be in this type of weather now.

Speaker 1 Dana, you want to go inside or no?

Speaker 1 No, this is good.

Speaker 11 He let me down.

Speaker 1 DC DC said same thing, man. Everybody, I just asked Dylan, I said, Dylan, you want to go inside? He said, No.
I'm like, What is your guys' problem?

Speaker 1 What is your guys' problem? It is freezing cold out here.

Speaker 1 Saturday during the the day, 47 degrees. Nighttime, 31.

Speaker 1 Winds light and variable. Good for kickers.
Don't know where the hell they're coming from. Don't worry about it.

Speaker 1 And then obviously,

Speaker 1 81% humidity is going to make it a little chill. That's going to make a little bit of a sting on the face there whenever we talk about below freezing.

Speaker 1 Congratulations to you guys getting USC in Nebraska in that weather. Tone has a question for you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Coach, I don't mean to go back to the loss to Minnesota, but Coach Saban always talks to us on this show about teams that, like his his team specifically and then other teams that this year needed to lose.

Speaker 1 After you after that loss to Minnesota, was that something that was needed for your guys? And what was the message after that?

Speaker 11 Yeah, I mean, honestly, I was pissed off after that game because I felt like I think PJ Flex is a great coach.

Speaker 11 I think he has got, he's got eight years there, wherever he's been there, eight, nine years of establishing a culture.

Speaker 11 And I felt like as a team, we did not respect the process and how hard that game was going to be. And so it's, it's seven, six at halftime, and we're in the locker room like despondent.

Speaker 11 And I'm like, what's wrong with you guys? Like, you know, this is what football's like. And so

Speaker 11 I thought we had to come, I didn't want to lose, but we came out of that loss. And then they bullied us in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 11 And they were very receptive to the message on Sunday and Monday, like, hey, every game is going to be hard. We're going to have to battle every single game, get to the fourth quarter.

Speaker 11 So we go in at halftime this week and it's 7-6 again. Now we're up this time, 7-6.
But I walked in the locker room. I'm like,

Speaker 11 who are you going to be in the second half? And we got a 15-point lead. They came back, tied it up, and we go down and win the game at the end.

Speaker 11 And that's the type of team that you need in college football now. Resilient, humble, because it's just travel, there's weather, there's good teams, there's NIL, there's parity.

Speaker 11 You better battle every single week. And I wasn't happy after Minnesota at all.

Speaker 1 Okay, everything's still in front of you, though, right? You're telling your team, obviously. Now, let's look at the final four games.
USC, if you're able to get a win, you will be able to get a win.

Speaker 1 We're talking to the head coach on the team. That would be obviously huge.

Speaker 1 UCLA, obviously a win. You would like to have that.
That would be be a good win, but they've been playing good ball as well. Penn State, obviously before the season looks different than it does now.

Speaker 1 And if Iowa next week is to beat Oregon, that game at the end of the year, obviously pretty gigantic. You go back to your first game of the season, Cincinnati's become a very, very, very big team.

Speaker 1 It's like all of a sudden, everything literally still in front of you, Coach Rule, right? That's the angle. At least that's the, you're seeing the same thing I'm seeing?

Speaker 11 Absolutely.

Speaker 11 I mean, you know, our whole goal as a program is to come down to this time of year, get to November and be relevant, you know, be chasing, getting into the playoff, be chasing all these things.

Speaker 11 And so, you know, USC has that same hope. Iowa has that same hope.
They're both at 5-2 and 6-2.

Speaker 11 And that's the parody of the Big Ten. And so, you know, to your point, like we beat Cincinnati and they're a highly ranked team.

Speaker 11 I mean, we've had some good moments, but it's all about what you do in November. You know better than anybody else, right? Like, so all that stuff got you ready for this point.

Speaker 11 Everything's in front of you. Now go play great football.
And this is an unbelievable challenge this week versus a great team. And

Speaker 4 we'll we'll be ready for it still being in it is a great thing brother ty has a question for you iowa hawkeye obviously yeah speaking of all that coach how much has it changed in terms of like the coaching staff's mentality your mentality and the players with the new 12-team playoff because like you said i mean obviously after the minnesota loss you know things change a little bit but you guys do still have everything ahead of you whereas you know maybe a couple years ago when you were at baylor or whatever if you have two losses at this point you know you're you're eliminated you're not going anywhere Like, how has that changed maybe how you approach things philosophically and also how the team just kind of approaches the game week in, week out?

Speaker 11 Yeah, I think there's a good and a bad to it, right?

Speaker 11 Like you see, you've seen a lot of teams in college football, like they lose that second game and all of a sudden they go on a four-game, you know, skid because they're like, well, the season's over, you know?

Speaker 11 You know, our approach has been get better and better and better and play our best football in November, play our best football in December.

Speaker 11 Like, hey, that's, we're training the guys to go be pro football players. That's how it's going to be at the next level.
And that's how college football has become.

Speaker 11 You know, I was on the Penn State football team in 1994 that went undefeated, won the Rose Bowl, beat Oregon 38-6 and didn't win a national championship.

Speaker 11 The national championship we said came here to Nebraska. And that was a really different world back then.
And then at Baylor, we finished 11-1.

Speaker 11 We go to the conference championship game against Oklahoma. We lose in overtime and we don't get to go to the playoff.
So

Speaker 11 it's the access I think has made football much more enjoyable and fun to watch coming down the stretch here because there's so many teams that are still alive.

Speaker 11 You just got to play your way in, and we're going to fight to play our way in.

Speaker 1 You got a nice black long-sleeve shirt on there. I got a black Henley on here.
And I just saw on social media, the boys are going

Speaker 1 black ops this weekend. I like that.
What is the thought? And what is this going to look like? And you're saying, are we going blackout in the crowd, too?

Speaker 11 Yes,

Speaker 11 the crowd's going to black out. It's great.
We wanted to do shirts. We wanted to do it.
The players wanted to do it. The recruits wanted to do it.

Speaker 11 And we kind of felt early on, hey, this will be a night game. I think blackouts look great at night, obviously.
And so

Speaker 11 there's nothing better in the world than a night game in Lincoln, Nebraska, except for maybe a blackout light night game in Lincoln, Nebraska.

Speaker 11 We're going to go out there. We're going to throw the uniforms on.
I think it's going to be electric, and it's going to be a great football game. So

Speaker 11 it's something we planned in the preseason, and obviously the game has. some real merit now, so it'll be fun.

Speaker 1 Okay, so you don't have to give anything away. Do not feel obligated to answer this.

Speaker 1 But is there a man that was wearing jeans and a black t-shirt next to a guy wearing six different costumes this morning on GetUp giving maybe a speech on your Jumbotron?

Speaker 9 Oh,

Speaker 11 I bet he better be on the Jumbotron. You know, I mean, like,

Speaker 11 we need Willie C. to come through big for us this game.
It's going to take everybody. I got Tommy Frazier going out to be the honorary coinbash captain.

Speaker 11 I mean, this is a, this is a big, this is a, this is a fun, big moment for Nebraska to be, to be playing a game in November on national TV, and it's not because of the other team.

Speaker 11 It's because of us and the other team. And so we're fired up about it, and

Speaker 9 we're calling on all the, we're calling on all the greats.

Speaker 1 Biggest game in the rural Nebraska era happening this weekend. We appreciate you taking time, brother.
Enjoy the hell out of it all. Halloween.

Speaker 1 Best candy. Best candy.

Speaker 9 Oof.

Speaker 9 Oof.

Speaker 9 Oof.

Speaker 1 Oh, think about it.

Speaker 11 Oh, my God. Butterfinger.

Speaker 1 What were you you battling with? What were you battling with there?

Speaker 11 Well, because I hate to admit that

Speaker 11 my daughters have those nerd clusters things that came out with a lot of people.

Speaker 1 Don't hate to admit that. I'm a chocolate guy as well.
I'm a chocolate guy as well. Yeah, it's hard to admit that the little candies are pretty good.
Those are unbelievable. They're amazing.

Speaker 11 Amazing.

Speaker 1 Amazing. Too many, huh? You have it a lot.

Speaker 11 Well, I mean, I've just, all I'm saying is, I'm just trying to lose all this weight.

Speaker 11 We get the Halloween week. I've been on a bender since like Monday.
We do like a, Julie does like a trunk retreat for all the coaches' kids, and I've just been eating candy nonstop.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're supposed to, though. Supposed to.
Hey, this is part of it.

Speaker 1 You're supposed to live a little. Yeah, don't worry about it.
Butterfinger, nerd clusters, Reese's, Oreos exist. I mean, you do whatever the hell you need to do over there.
You've earned it.

Speaker 11 Okay. I feel good about that.
Thank you. My first time being in shape at this, so I'm not used to the rules.
So thank you.

Speaker 1 Well, that's interesting. So.
I'm also a guy that easy come, easy go with the weight.

Speaker 1 You know, like 70 pound weight spins for me throughout entire years are very possible with how much I like to eat eat and how much I enjoy eating.

Speaker 1 You probably understand where I'm coming from when I say this. You just got to make sure after this week you have the ability to stop.
See, that's the issue with us fatsos.

Speaker 1 Us fatsos will say, you know what? We'll do the Halloween week and then we'll feel like such shit in fatsos. We'll stop immediately after.

Speaker 1 And guess what we do right there on Saturday when November comes? Well, we got to eat what we had last week and then Sunday.

Speaker 1 And then on Monday, you think to yourself, I just ate like shit all last week. I might as well get, yo, let me get some fries.

Speaker 1 Well, then we're two weeks away from Thanksgiving so we might as well just

Speaker 1 wait till after Chris we'll start at the new year okay so we're putting a red light we're putting a red light after Halloween okay that's what we're all doing here thank you done I'm in all right I'll send a text like a kind of bill of buddies there you go kind of bill buddies here ladies and gentlemen that's coach matt row congrats on new deal

Speaker 1 That was cool of them to announce that five minutes before he comes on. Certainly.
That was certainly on purpose. Yep.

Speaker 1 And we are very, very, very thankful for that because he usually says, what do you need? When do you need us? Is normally his conversation. And this time they're like, hey, how about 1230?

Speaker 1 Is that okay? It's like, yeah, no problem at all, actually. And then 12.25, Pete Dammell pops up into our feed.

Speaker 1 Matt Rule just signed a new deal that maybe limits him from possibly not leaving. What was that? I don't know.
That was.

Speaker 1 What was it? I don't think that's a good question.

Speaker 1 You would think just announcing the extension would kind of get across that, hey, I'm not leaving this coaching cycle.

Speaker 1 Source says Nebraska coach Matt Ruhl signed a a two-year contract extension this morning, which will take him through 2032 season, seven years from now. It includes a $15 million buyout.

Speaker 1 We're listening to Brian Kelly's $53 million buyout right now. $15 million buyout this year that effectively eliminates him from any jobs in this coaching cycle.
Okay.

Speaker 1 It effectively does, but not definitely.

Speaker 12 This is college football.

Speaker 1 Anything can happen. Please call Pete Danley.
Yeah, I didn't know why I worded it that way. We certainly need that.
Nebraska's not off the hook here yet. 15 million? We see some of these billionaires.

Speaker 1 Ah, chew that.

Speaker 1 It could turn into quite a quagmar. This could be quite a, yeah.
Listen, the wording is quite a sticky situation is potentially what he's going to say.

Speaker 5 Yeah, he might say all of that verbatim.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's give actual predictions on what Pete Danl says here.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say he's going to say something about, if you read the fine print of the contract, it's not necessarily a guarantee that he's not going to be exploring other options this off season.

Speaker 1 It's just whether or not, that's what I think the angle. what do you think the angle is going to be?

Speaker 12 Probably something along the lines of, well, you mentioned these billionaires, Pat, $15 million,

Speaker 12 if I'm not mistaken, doesn't Warren Buffett live in Omaha?

Speaker 4 That's a stone's throw away from Lincoln if they decide they want to move on.

Speaker 1 Connor, what do you think Pete Damils says?

Speaker 3 I think he's going to be quite gobschmacked that they got this done in the middle of the year and it was only a two-year extension.

Speaker 1 Okay, we just connected with him. I was just cold FaceTiming him as well because we called him in the back.
He did not answer.

Speaker 1 He's probably got so many other things happening because everybody that saw that is doing exactly what we're doing.

Speaker 1 But it's not just idiots that are live on TV. It's like other coaches that are looking for things.
Agents are potentially looking for stuff. Schools are thinking of things.

Speaker 1 I mean, there's, ladies and gentlemen, the authority on college football, the man that just broke the potential news that Matt Rule is out of the coaching cycle. Ladies and gentlemen, Pete Damar.
Yay!

Speaker 1 Hello, Pete. Love glasses, Pete.
Hi, Pat. How are you?

Speaker 1 I'm fantastic. Thank you for doing that news break about Coach Matt Matt Rule literally three minutes before he came on our show.
That was awesome.

Speaker 1 I was reading your tweet for the first time live on air. Found the wording to be very interesting.

Speaker 1 Nebraska coach Matt Rule signed a two-year contract extension this morning, which will take him through 2032 season. That's seven years from now.

Speaker 1 It includes a $15 million buyout this year that effectively eliminates him from any jobs in his coaching cycles. So does effectively eliminate him mean definitely eliminates him?

Speaker 1 Or do you think he's still potentially dancing around this offseason?

Speaker 10 no dancing pat no dancing effectively eliminates is just a phrase for tie to repeat in my voice uh i think it would have with a little bit of flair so um you can't ever deal with absolutes in the carousel but matt rule's staying and this is a this is a this is a clear searing sign that matt rule is uh is is going to be at nebraska and and really let's let's just be blunt not go to penn state where you know his closest friend is the athletic director he's a graduate of there and uh you know they were obviously heavily linked since that job opened um so no matt rule is going to be a Husker for a while.

Speaker 10 I was told Pat by sources, this is a sign of Matt Rohl's family loves it in Lincoln. They love Nebraska.
And Matt Ruhl believes that you can win big at that place. And this is a tangible sign of that.

Speaker 1 Every week he joins us, there's some massive 8K LED board behind it. I mean, it is.

Speaker 1 The way he describes it is they're all in. I'm happy to hear that he's all in as well.
Congrats to Matt Ruhl on a new deal. Let's talk about those coaching opens

Speaker 1 vacancies.

Speaker 1 Who's going to go to all these places dude like i know lane kiffin's name's obviously up there but what if he wants to stay at ole miss because uh how good they are currently at ole miss is this just going to be a reshuffling of these coaches there's going to be young names who do you think is going to take all these jobs that everybody is calling highly sought-after jobs signetti signs a 93 million dollar deal matt rule signs a deal through 2032 obviously there's going to be other moves made like who who's going to take all these jobs pete is it these guys that just got fired going to other places

Speaker 10 yeah i think uh pat one of the interesting nuances of today is that, and you mentioned Kurt Signetti, we're seeing the unintended consequences of all these early firings.

Speaker 10 We have never had eight power jobs open before Halloween, right? So now you're giving the schools ample time and ammo to sign these guys up at a deal.

Speaker 10 Whereas if you make this move around Thanksgiving, the schools probably aren't as proactive if they don't know the competition is looming. So

Speaker 10 it's an interesting wrinkle. Like, what will Vanderbilt do with Clark Lee? I think that's a really interesting interesting question, right?

Speaker 10 Like, he's obviously, we were just there last week, Pat, for game day. He has them, you know, as hot as they've been since Grantland Rice was a student at Vanderbilt, right? So,

Speaker 10 yeah, I think that's really interesting. But your point, Pat, is really, really a salient one.
There are a lot of jobs open, and

Speaker 10 the kind of coaches you fire your coach for are starting. starting to disappear from the board.
There's only three championship coaches sitting in college football right now.

Speaker 10 They're not going anywhere. And if you're doing what Penn State did, if you're doing what LSU did, you are going to, you know, you are aiming for a national championship.

Speaker 10 And there are a couple names off the board right now who are, you know, some of the better names to go do that. So I heard you had Jeff Landry on the show today, Pat.

Speaker 10 My phone started to blow up when I landed at the airport in Salt Lake.

Speaker 1 How'd that go? Okay, so yeah, it's Governor Jeff Landry, first of all.

Speaker 1 Excuse me. And by the way,

Speaker 1 he appoints the commission of

Speaker 1 the committee.

Speaker 1 He appoints

Speaker 1 the no it's Texas yeah board of supervisor supervisor board of supervisor it is my people running that and it ain't gonna be our people paying that bill okay so we ain't doing that again is basically what he said he explained and now he didn't know that maybe Jimbo and Brian Kelly and Scott Woodward have different agents okay so that obviously big deluxe wanted to make sure we got that kind of clarity uh through that conversation and it all but he was very much open about how like hey this is going to become he's going to be trying to put incentive-based contracts in for these coaches going forward that that is what he was saying basically it's like if you're good you're gonna win you don't what do you scare about baby is what he said and it's verbatim what he said in this entire thing how what do you think the reality is of the shift of that potentially happening going forward because i tried to tell governor and listen governor kevlander he's obviously more than an older than i am about this particular situation but i tried to tell him like hey this is a freight train that's already gone brother he talked about how the ncaa needs to be the ones to fix it and we i told him hey the nca saying you guys need to be the ones that are fixing it and he goes oh well the nca just needs to retro they need a second rule so i it feels like you know there we are maybe meeting a melting pot at some point or a burning

Speaker 1 boiling point there it is a boiling point at some point here with all this shit but what are your thoughts on it and what do you think the reality of change is in all of it pete i guess that's a pretty good mender for you yeah no i appreciate it pat it's uh it's it's a pretty hilarious

Speaker 10 we could call it a vexing conundrum, right? You have a job without a school president. You have cut the knees off the athletic director, right, who's not going to hire the coach.

Speaker 10 So you need a coach desperately to fulfill championship expectations. But now, with no president and an AD who you've cut his knees out of, you want him to come without a lot of guaranteed money.

Speaker 10 That seems to me to be a bit of a contrast in thinking, right?

Speaker 10 Because, and you've compressed the market too, by scaring some coaches off and then obviously, you know, prompting an economic stimulus to get some sign.

Speaker 10 So I think Governor Landry is likely not helping LSU find a better coach.

Speaker 1 Oh, what do you know, Pete? You're about to bubble.

Speaker 1 You guys are looking at the agents with Pete. Now, there's one guy breaking all the news.

Speaker 1 There's one guy breaking all the news.

Speaker 1 I don't know. How many sports insiders here? None.
There's only one named Pete Dammel.

Speaker 1 Who do you think? He's got somebody's in hit pockets. Yeah, I'll get to the bottom of it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Jeff Landry is, I mean, Governor Jeff Landry, sorry, sir, is just awesome because he does, I assume, speak like how a lot of people and his thoughts are exactly how a lot of people feel, especially in the state of Louisiana.

Speaker 1 And for us, it's just like, hey, how do you fix it all, brother? I don't know how you, because it's not just...

Speaker 1 There's a lot. He would have been an incredible football coach.

Speaker 1 I could imagine what you thought. But yeah, I,

Speaker 1 but it's nice to know that there's a governor now that's potentially on the side of like, let's try to fix what college football is as a whole because how much they love it.

Speaker 1 Now, I'm not saying he can do it alone, but if more would kind of figure this out, we'll continue the incredible growth of the number two sport in the United States of America.

Speaker 1 Uh, college football only has one insider that we officially know, the authority, Pete Tammy. We appreciate you.

Speaker 1 There's some hey, hold on, Pete, hold on, Pete,

Speaker 1 Pete,

Speaker 1 yeah, yes, I just saw a tweet, the Connor Stallion story. Just

Speaker 10 Oh, yes.

Speaker 10 That came down today. The NCA made a ruling on the Central Michigan facet of that case.
If you recall,

Speaker 10 Connor Stallions went in disguise with, remember the sunglasses that allegedly had the videotaping component on the side?

Speaker 10 That was one of the more fun wrinkles during that very fun time, Pat. I can't stress how much fun that was, that whole case.

Speaker 10 I do think seriously, though, like you guys, we've had some fun with Connor Stallions and the case.

Speaker 10 There's a handful of coaches whose careers are over because of this. Small college guys at Central Michigan.
They got show causes for multiple years.

Speaker 10 Jay Costner is one of them for getting wrapped up in that scheme. And

Speaker 10 my general thought on that, Jim McElwain's retired. He gets a show cause.
Who cares?

Speaker 10 You got a bunch of coaches who got wrapped up in that scheme whose careers are at least now diverted, if not, you know, significantly altered because of this. So it was, I feel bad for those guys.

Speaker 1 There's always, you know, people on the other side of like, what a how the hell story that are are just living in the bullshit world that has been caused because of it all so obviously we send our positive thoughts that shouldn't be cheating all right we appreciate the hell out of you you're the man I know that was a lot of fun for you throughout the time of it feels like it's completely wrapped up now let's move up we've pulled up at BYU here Pat so thank you my uber drivers give me some funny looks okay sounds good tell them hey Mormon's supposed to be nice I thought

Speaker 1 thankful to be out there very patient he's been very patient with me you're the man ladies and gentlemen Pete Day one thank you

Speaker 1 Pete.

Speaker 1 Obviously, if we're in Utah, got a swing by Big Water.

Speaker 1 The vexing

Speaker 3 Kalani Shiitake, you know, shoot, huge up to.

Speaker 1 Shay, hello, big Oosh. Good to shoot.

Speaker 1 Yesh.

Speaker 1 Could you imagine Pete dressed like that goes, what up, Oosh? Oh, to coach the game. Please.
They have the number one college basketball player in the country, too, in there. Oh, he's so good.

Speaker 1 Ryan Smith. Oh, yeah.
Okay, this is what we're talking about. And this is what Governor Jeff Land.

Speaker 1 I guess a couple couple billionaires could come in.

Speaker 1 I can't believe he was on our show today. That was so awesome.
It's been long overdue. You know what? Governor Jeff Landry down there at Radio Roll in New Orleans.
He was standing there.

Speaker 1 We didn't even get a chance to sit by him because

Speaker 1 you didn't even say Gato one time. I did.
I said Gato Hunt. Oh, you did say Gato.

Speaker 1 He did not say Gato. Yeah, correct.
So you got to come down now. You got to come down to Hunt now, yeah.
What a hilarious person. Just all of it.
Just

Speaker 1 all of it is hilarious. I think you have to be, though, probably to get into the politics world.

Speaker 1 you could just be a robot. I guess I see a lot of that.
I thought in the politics world you had talk. Like I thought that was like one of the things.

Speaker 1 Like your family's but you're like 40, 45 that you're in. I think you just sit there like a mummy.
Yeah. Oh, you think that's because you can't actually speak? Yep.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 I didn't even think about that when we see these. Yeah, pop list.
It's not just them, by the way. It's other television.

Speaker 1 And I think a lot of them don't remember what they said and then they want to go the other way and then they know that clip will be pulled so then they can't say anything at all.

Speaker 1 And they don't. Good luck out there, politicians.
Thanks for doing it. That's right.
Thanks. You guys did a good job.

Speaker 1 Actually, I think right now, actually, terrible, right? Because it's not working. I don't think they're any of them working right now.
Yeah. So you guys aren't doing anything.
Shut down.

Speaker 1 I don't know the ins and outs of it, but

Speaker 1 I hope you enjoy your vacation. What is probably more watching us now than ever since they're sitting at home? Nothing to do.
Let us tell you what to do. Okay, we've been saying this for a long time.

Speaker 1 You guys need a scoreboard over there. Okay.
In sports, we have a scoreboard. So So then we know, okay, who's winning and who's losing?

Speaker 1 Now, the issue with you guys, I think it's tough to know what a point is because somehow I've heard some people talk, and there'll be somebody who tells me, massive loss for this person.

Speaker 1 This person will then pop on TV,

Speaker 1 look at me, look what I, so I don't know if there is a scoring system that you guys have over there, but in our world of sports, there's scores.

Speaker 1 So then you can you can say, oh, the one that won more probably should be the one that we maybe listen to or try to follow. Losers normally fade out in our world.
It's called meritocracy.

Speaker 1 You guys should think about doing that in the government world, politics world. And we like to wish you luck in figuring that out.

Speaker 1 And we'd also like to wish Governor Jeff Landry luck on trying to make a,

Speaker 1 what was his name? Incredible pot smoker, greatest of all time, Ricky Williams. Yeah.
A Ricky Williams-like deal for a coach is is what it sounds like is potentially happening.

Speaker 1 That also was with the Saints, if you do recall. It was.
It was with the Saints when Ricky Williams and Master P, I do believe, negotiated a deal that was very incentive-based and incentive-laden.

Speaker 1 And obviously, incentives are good, but I think at this stage of where everybody else's contract is at, I think it's going to be tough for governor to get that one in there.

Speaker 1 But hey, if anybody could do it,

Speaker 1 Governor Jeffrey Andrew. Amen.

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Speaker 1 I forgot to say, it's spooky thunder the end of the day you see it. True, yeah.
Okay, you see Big Skelly. Okay, turns out we had one of these all along.

Speaker 1 This is the exact skeleton, two of them, that were in AQ Shipley's front yard. Then we're ripped out of his front yard at 12.14 a.m.
by a bunch of shirtless Caucasian hooligans.

Speaker 1 And yesterday we talked about it on the program alongside JJ Watt. Word got back to the hooligans, and all of a sudden, guess what was returned yesterday? What?

Speaker 1 Yep, here's in the middle of the first inning of a U-ball game yesterday. AQ Shipley drifted away from the court on the phone in a sense of urgency and comes back with this announcement.

Speaker 1 We're obviously incredibly happy for AQ. That was a splashy splash.
I would go on to hit a few more after that, which is obviously perfect timing.

Speaker 1 But it was big news not only around Arizona, but the United States of America when Halloween was saved for the Shipley family as these boys recognized a fault, returned to the home, scene of the crime, if you will, built it back up, what I've been told.

Speaker 1 Okay. And then under the order of those who were there, 50 push-ups while chanting things,

Speaker 1 different messages. Love that.
Yes. So there was a little bit of,

Speaker 1 it wasn't full fist to face or boot to ass.

Speaker 1 okay but i do believe there was some example at least some yeah an example of it now would these kids have gotten arrested uh maybe any other house in the united states of america if they just walked back with that thing probably

Speaker 1 but we talked aq shipley into it remember first hour he was not about it no yeah

Speaker 1 they bring it back good yeah they come back Good. That's when I can actually punch them in the face.

Speaker 1 Then by the third hour, whenever we talk to him, we're like, hey, these boys bring back Skelly, your kid's favorite decorate.

Speaker 1 We can certainly get this thing back yeah that's true hey we can do that and then he acknowledged these boys made a mistake and they owned up to it halloween is back on at the shipley house

Speaker 1 this is good yeah

Speaker 1 i mean this is great news honestly this is brilliant news is the world

Speaker 1 i don't know

Speaker 1 toxic table here at boston connor at tai schmidt one out of the hammer don cowboys luigi tony julio

Speaker 1 You look unbelievable. Thank you.
I appreciate that. Shout out to JC.
Got that thing tight. I did.
Especially with that cowboy hat. You You look really hot.
Do you do? Yeah. You look super.

Speaker 1 How do you do? How do you hair look good, too? I don't know if Camera Angle got it. How do you do? Yeah, hair's flowing right here.
Yeah, Ton. Ton feels like a young 22-year-old Pisano.
Oh, sure.

Speaker 1 With this mustache rolling around, cat looks super cool as well. Happy Halloween, Tim.
Happy Halloween.

Speaker 1 Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, rider cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J.

Speaker 1 Hawker.

Speaker 1 Hawker on that, if you notice. We maybe just had the best first hour of our show in the history.
Okay.

Speaker 1 i was i i was watching as a fan it was very fun governor jeff landry always uh always entertains that guy yeah what a treat he's stepping on the can right now we know that during the break i found out that ryan clark was on television earlier today not happy with the governor uh i did not i would like to let everybody know that i i did not i legitimately did not know that i uh i did not see it but i legitimately had some questions on the shit that he said and i feel like because of what happened during the super bowl where we got to meet him chat with him and then whenever game day was down in lsu LSU, I got a chance to meet the people around him and chat with them a little bit.

Speaker 1 We threw a Hail Mary. We're like, to hell with it.
Let's go and see if we can get this guy to clarify some things. Like 15 minutes before a show starts.
It's like, let's see. Let's go.

Speaker 1 Don't we have a connection? I think we do, right? Don't they know us a little bit? We talked to his people. Didn't we talk to his people? His people know us, right? Yep.
Send it down there.

Speaker 1 Immediate responses. The governor's got some things scheduled, but we will see.
Look, we call you back. It's like, you got it.
You got it.

Speaker 1 And then allegedly, Governor Jeff Landry was like thankful for the opportunity to explain a little bit, but also was not looking for the moment. Like I saw a couple people down in Louisiana,

Speaker 1 I saw one blogger at least post like the governor with a quote, it is not, I'm not going to be the one picking the next head coach, but a group that is appointed to by me and loyal to me will be the ones that be making the selection.

Speaker 1 And then he did, he did kind of say that, but then the guy afterwards said, and don't look now, I'm on a nationally televised podcast slash show saying this. It's definitely not me.

Speaker 1 So I just want to clarify. We asked him, it wasn't like he said, hey, can I get out and do some more talking about football?

Speaker 1 We remembered that we potentially had a connection with him and sent to the, if that makes sense, AJ, I just want to clarify all that shit.

Speaker 16 No, yeah, he's not on a press junk. And when you see these people promoting movies, they do 50 shows in one day.
He's not doing that.

Speaker 16 I'm sure he has some other stuff to handle, but it is pretty interesting the fact that how involved, I guess, he is in the, you know, not only the firing, but the new, the new search, I guess.

Speaker 1 Well, he said that that's like that in most states, I think, because all these schools are, you know, the highest paid state employee, i think in every state but maybe two of them is the head coach of the state university and then it never really gets talked about though like hey this is pretty that's a state employee there what that never really gets talked about in the entirety of the contracts and conversations and then jeff landry says taxpayer gotta pay 53 i don't think so i mean where's that money we got roads we like to

Speaker 1 raising prices yeah and they're raising prices on friday yeah right who's doing this i i don't think so so i think that is why he did what he did at the press conference and he's getting involved a little bit more, louder.

Speaker 1 But ultimately, he said he wants to put gall rails on

Speaker 1 college sports.

Speaker 1 And it's like, hell yeah, governor. And then I told him, hey, the NCAA thinks you guys need to be doing that so they can operate.
He goes, oh, yeah, I mean, I had Congress a long time.

Speaker 1 What they like to do, kick can down rule. I like to step on the can.
You know, I like to get things done.

Speaker 1 But the NCAA, he goes, they can certainly, within the guidelines of the rules, they can certainly take care of this. And I call on them to do it.

Speaker 1 I'm like, that's exactly what, Governor, that's what Governor, that's what they said.

Speaker 1 So now we're kind of, you know, so the entire time, back half of that conversation with him, I was trying to motivate him to like actually try to take this on.

Speaker 1 Like, hey, somebody's going to have to take this on. You're signing up for a lot of work, though, AJ.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you let him know.

Speaker 16 I feel like you told him, like, well, I think you're up against it. Like, I think it's a tough uphill battle, no question.
But you are the guy for the job. But it's true.
Like, how does it even start?

Speaker 16 When they mentioned Guard Rose, where does it even start? What's the first thing to happen?

Speaker 1 70 what million buyout for Jimbo, different agent, 53 million here. I mean, we're doing the NFL right now.

Speaker 1 I mean, we just looked at Miles Garrett, you know, because our show and some others just certainly broadcast like, hey, Miles Garrett's spiking his helmet after getting five sacks.

Speaker 1 He's already said he wanted to be out there. And then Connor's like, who has a lot of money and who has a lot of opportunity? And maybe didn't know they were going to be in this this good a position?

Speaker 1 Holy shit, Miles Garrett's coming to the New England Patriots. And he didn't, he's not the only person that was saying that.
There was other people that were certainly saying it.

Speaker 1 And then immediately as that conversation is happening or ending on our show, Schefter gets a text tweet, assume, from somebody pretty high up, if I had to guess, he go, there's no chance of that happening.

Speaker 1 Okay. There's no chance that happening.
And then we under, we go, why? Why is there no chance of that?

Speaker 1 And then they mentioned there's like $60 million in dead cap, which is exactly what this buyout money is for these state-run universities.

Speaker 1 It's like these types of deals have been happening in sports for a long time, let alone the universities trying to woo coaches because there's only a certain amount of coaches that are good.

Speaker 1 How do you woo anybody in any business? It's like, well, guarantees and you can do this, amount of control, amount of leverage, amount of guarantees. So I think he is up against it.

Speaker 1 And I don't know if now is a good time to be up against it, especially with the 12-team playoff and all the opportunity that there is in college sports. It's like, how do you navigate that?

Speaker 1 If we know anything about Governor Jeffrey Landry, he's going to get that tackle on the field. So

Speaker 1 he's going to get that tackle on the field so i i think he's gonna sort it out but i will be intrigued to see what this contract inevitably ends up being with whatever coach that comes down there and what coach ends up taking the deal you know aj yeah let's see if they can are are they gonna like change the mold on hiring and what contracts may look like moving forward obviously they're lsu they're different than there's different tiers to the the jobs out there but is he gonna change things i think he said we're gonna set template right then he said something about it he did say that he said others will see our template that we sent here

Speaker 4 His template recommendation was basically like, put your reputation on the line.

Speaker 3 You win, you get paid, you don't.

Speaker 1 UFL, baby.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I don't know how many coaches are signing up for that, but hey.

Speaker 1 Basically, you get a million dollars per win each year. How about this? $5 million from our taxpayers here, Louisiana.
We will say thank you with $5 million every win that you have. Good luck.

Speaker 1 What if it's the biggest contract in the history? Could. If you win, biggest contract in history.

Speaker 16 Like some young hot shot kid takes a chance on himself and they give him a job. And Yeah, or maybe if you lose, you got to pay like $2 million back.
Like every loss, you got to pay something back.

Speaker 1 Actually, you got to go pave roads.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That'd be sweet. Go lay concrete.
Hard labor. Go pay concrete and lay concrete.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I think, honestly, this is Jeff Landry right now.
What this ends up becoming, I think, will be a good thing for LSU football until they lose games. If they lose games.

Speaker 1 But there's a chance they go undefeated. There's a chance they go undefeated going forward.
And I'm excited to see who ends up down there. Honestly, I'm very excited to who.

Speaker 16 They want to win. We know that they want to win.
We know some fan bases feel like their team or their school doesn't truly want to win. I feel like Jeff Landry and LSU, they want to win.

Speaker 16 I don't know if you may not agree on how they go about it, but they're trying everything they can.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and there's obviously a lot of interest in that job.

Speaker 1 You know, LSU, as soon as it opens up, you hear all the people that know coaching, all the people that know like in the coaching world, they're like, LSU, good job.

Speaker 1 I'm like, LSU, great job. Okay.
I understand that their fans are awesome. I understand that the environment is crazy.
Why is it such a good job?

Speaker 1 And then now it's three out of the last four, but they always go three different coaches, national championship down there. Three different coaches, national championship.
Nick Saban,

Speaker 1 Miles,

Speaker 1 Ocho.

Speaker 1 All within the first four years, too. Those three coaches.
All three of them, as soon as they leave LSU, they go on to become massive, very, very, very, very, very successful head coaches.

Speaker 1 Is that right? All three of those guys do? One of them. One of them.

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 1 At LSU, all three of them win a national championship. Okay.

Speaker 1 So all three of them win national championship there because the amount of talent that is just in Louisiana, that just wants to be at LSU, I guess you're in it every year.

Speaker 1 Like there's never going to be a game where you show up and the other side is going to have more talent, be more physically gifted, all that shit. So if you're a good coach,

Speaker 1 not even elite, if you are a good coach, the thought is at LSU, you should be able to get the boys rolling in the right direction let alone if you're an elite coach aj is kind of the conversation about it down there yeah you got to be an elite coach at some of these places though you have to you like there just gets to a point to where they're the fan like they're sick of going 10 and 2 whatever it may be like you got it you have to make a deep run i i i don't know it's it is wild to think about think about penn state's basically a couple plays from making the national championship coach franklin's gone like i get it i understand why they do get like but it is you just have to win especially like there's a handful five ten jobs where you have to win kirk herb street uh chatted about it in our production meeting for game day and then on game day a little bit these money people shouldn't have the power they're not football people they should not be deciding what it is why would they give any money then that well that's everybody's response that's everybody's that was my i was sitting right next to him whenever he said it and i literally just looked at him and i'm like i i agree with what you're saying

Speaker 1 yes i agree yes i do too in theory i know what you're saying yes but these people giving 10 million dollars are like just going to expect something.

Speaker 1 And then also, if they don't like what's going on, they could just say, I'm not giving another $10 million. And then both of those things are leveraged there.

Speaker 1 Anytime you get into the publicly traded market, you know, anytime you start taking outside money, all of a sudden there's outside voices or pressures. What are the pressures?

Speaker 1 Well, they're not happy or they're threatening not to do that again. So then it's both, both of those things become pressures, but you need it.

Speaker 1 to win it's just like a part of the entirety but we all agree with kirk i would like to let you go that's not great that that is how it's going, but it is the reality of the current situation.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and I'm sure it's been happening for a while, but I feel like when I was in college, maybe when you guys were in college, it was you'd have a big donor would give 25, 50 million, and that'd be like a one-time gift.

Speaker 4 And then they'd put their name on like a football building or something like that. Now it's you give $10 million on SEP or let's say, you know, August 1st or whatever.
Like, guess what?

Speaker 4 The following year on August 1st. 1st, they're coming right back to you and saying, hey, we need another 10 million.
We need another 10 million. Like, you want to win? Let's go.

Speaker 4 We need this every single year.

Speaker 1 And they're even sending highlights of, and once again, General Manager Rivera over there at Cal in the Calgarith, they got a lot of money.

Speaker 1 Let's assume that this is not going to be a conversation, but they will be sending highlights of Song of Polotelli, if he's available, to these boosters and be like, hey, could you imagine what this guy could do at our place?

Speaker 1 It's 100,000 people all in. Song of Polotelli comes out of the top.
Like, they're setting the tone for these people, and you get a parking spot.

Speaker 1 Get a parking spot. Okay.

Speaker 16 And you get the opportunity to pay $800,000 for a suite for the eight home games we have.

Speaker 1 Yeah, of course. This is not counting to the suite.
The suite is its own thing, which obviously you would like to see the stadium renovated.

Speaker 1 We appreciate you looking out for us like that for future generations of insert name of school here. But also, we need this so when you're in that suite, you know what make that suite better?

Speaker 1 On the field. This guy.

Speaker 1 Look at this throw. Look at this third and seventh throw that he delivers right here.
This is a cow. People would say, this is just Song of of Bulletelli.

Speaker 1 Once again, General Manager Rivera out of Cal will figure that whole thing out. I'm just saying it as, you know, Fernando Mendoza, it just happened.

Speaker 1 It's happening with Will Howard whenever he was coming out. Like, these are just things that happen, and they're only going to continue to happen.

Speaker 1 You know, like, we could be the next Diego Pavia situation with Vandy. All you got to do is give us $1.5 million.
Well, I just gave you $2 million last year. Yeah, but those guys are developing.

Speaker 1 That's gone. Those guys are developing.
Well, they're not on our team anymore, right? Yeah, they're developing somewhere else.

Speaker 1 You know, it's just always

Speaker 1 one of those.

Speaker 1 I don't know how you keep them coming you can't you keep you gotta win yeah you gotta win every game you want them to keep bringing money like can you imagine if you gave five ten million and they call you again and the team went seven and four like well i don't i might give you one million then you can prove to me you can get back to where you were and on that note like if you don't win what does the person that is accruing that money say to these people to make sure it keeps them that's a tough yeah so then it's like well you got to make change you gotta make change i'm not giving you money it's like well we need it what are we talking about he's no we're done with it iced stop.

Speaker 1 Yeah, what do you mean, iced out? Don't call me. I ain't giving you another dollar.
This team sucks. I'm not watching.
Well, you got a parking spot. Give it up.
I don't want it.

Speaker 1 You can take that out of that whole thing. And then it's like, well, if I move on from the guy, you're back.
15 million dollars. You move on from that guy.

Speaker 1 It's like, all of a sudden, this person has a lot of leverage. Yeah.
Which goes back to Herb Street's point. That ain't how it's supposed to be.
Join us now, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 1 Is a man who maybe signs up for that life? Sure, perhaps.

Speaker 1 Super Bowl chip, he'd be able to bounce it all. Oh, yeah.
He'd be able to bounce it all, stay above it all.

Speaker 1 He'd be able to look down at it and say, hey, listen, let's sort this out. Okay.
I know you want shit. I want it too.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, Super Bowl champion coach Mike McCarthy. Yeah, coach.

Speaker 1 How are you, Coach?

Speaker 9 Who enjoyed that segment? That was awesome. Okay.

Speaker 1 Coach, all right. I'm going to put you on the spot here.
And

Speaker 1 I mentioned at the end of the last hour, your name has not been brought up for any college job at all. Okay.

Speaker 1 Now we're in the world, though, where NFL coaches think that college football is more similar to the NFL than it's ever been. And maybe, you know, with the

Speaker 1 draft class is basically just your recruiting class and then portal is free agency. So maybe NFL guys are more likely to become college coaches because it's more of a similar operation.
Now,

Speaker 1 like I said, nobody has mentioned the great Irishman from Pittsburgh for any of these college jobs. Have you ever considered college? Are you just NFL guy through and through?

Speaker 1 And what is your views on the current state of college football?

Speaker 9 Well, I mean, there was a time actually when I first got into coaching, I got into it for college football. I mean, that was my goal, you know, back at the University of Pittsburgh.

Speaker 9 You know, I was there in 89 and 1989 and 1992. And if you'd have told me I could have stayed there for 25 years on an assistant coach's contract, I would have signed it.

Speaker 9 I just felt that, you know, college football was the period of a young man's life that you could make the biggest impact.

Speaker 9 So that was my initial, you know, goal of getting into coaching and what attracted me to get into coaching.

Speaker 9 So, but then in 1993, I got an opportunity at a young age by Marty Schottenheimer to be, you know, to be in the in the National Football League of Kansas City.

Speaker 9 And then really from there, you know, that's, that's been my flight, you know, professionally. So, you know, I looked at some things early in my time in the NFL.

Speaker 9 But, you know, back then, I mean, it was so hard to get in the NFL. You know, it was, you know, I can just remember the first staff that I was on.
I think I was 29 years old.

Speaker 9 And, you know, I think the next oldest guy might have been, you know, his, in his late, late 30s, early 40s. So, I mean, it was such a hard league to get into,

Speaker 9 even more so at that time. So, yeah, so I've always viewed it as, you know, I'm here, you know, do everything I can to progress here.
And I've been, and I've been very

Speaker 1 always been very blessed, I believe. That's what he was going to say.

Speaker 9 I mean, hell, I think I'm going to speak to women's volleyball. I mean, that's a juggernaut out there, what these guys are going through.

Speaker 9 But I do agree with you. You see the parallels now, how the college landscape has gone more towards the professional with the payment of players and so forth.

Speaker 9 And I know just the friends that I have in college football, they do feel that, you know, the regularity of

Speaker 9 the college game is starting to get more and more balanced. And there is a little more clarity, but it's a tough gig,

Speaker 9 especially just seeing what's going on here the last two weeks with you know, with some of these buyouts. So, you know, I thought you made a lot of excellent points.

Speaker 1 Okay. Hey, I appreciate hearing that from you, legitimately.
And thank you for getting us a shout out on Sunday Night Football. I mean, we're having quite a little run here.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you know about us. You get us a shout out on Sunday Night Football.
Thank you. Run it.

Speaker 17 Among the interested spectators tonight, Mike McCarthy, of course, coached the Packers when they beat the Steelers in Super Bowl 45, coached Aaron for a long time, and a guy who grew up in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 He is Western PA through and through. Hell yeah.

Speaker 17 And of course, after the run in Dallas, he has

Speaker 17 some time on his hands now. See him on TV, Pat McAfee's show every week.
I always enjoy talking well with Mike, and he is here at Take.

Speaker 1 Thank you, man. Yeah, right.
That would never happen. Also, you look so cool.

Speaker 1 Tango hat up there. I see a couple maybe concoctions in it.
How was the game? And then let's dive into the game. But first, how was the suite? How was life in Pittsburgh watching a game back home?

Speaker 9 I mean, it was great. It's always great to go back home without a doubt.
So to hang out with the family. But yeah, I was, you know, I was a little hesitant to go to the game.

Speaker 9 I'm so glad I did go to the game. The atmosphere was incredible.
I mean, I just, you know, love that stadium through and through and the crowd on both sides. I mean, it was spectacular.

Speaker 9 I mean, especially in the first half. And, you know, the Packers, I thought, played extremely well in the second half.
But, you know, just, you know, my son Jack went back with me.

Speaker 9 And I had my nephew and my two sisters there. So it was great.
The hospitality was

Speaker 9 awesome. And

Speaker 9 I'm really glad I went back. It was good to see Aaron playing the black and gold and just

Speaker 9 a lot of great conversation around certain people coming to say hello in a box. So it was a great night.

Speaker 1 I heard your post up in a corner, Pinky Ring, Kango on. Everybody's coming through saying, thanks for coming back to town.
That's what I heard they were saying. I heard that's how it was going.

Speaker 1 Well earned, brother. Well earned over there in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 And obviously that evening showcased the worst uniforms maybe in the history of ball, those yellow ass cheeks that they had on the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 1 Had Brett Michaels, obviously, absolutely slaughtering it.

Speaker 1 How was the performance? Brett Michaels' performance pretty good.

Speaker 9 Crushed it. Crushed it.
No, he was awesome. The whole night was awesome, but yeah, Brett was excellent.

Speaker 1 Okay, happy.

Speaker 1 We've had conflicting reports from the stadium that maybe some places couldn't hear him as good. So maybe that's why the second half went the way that it went.

Speaker 1 But nonetheless, happy to hear that you liked it. Oh, was that right? Yeah, some of that happening out there, Coach.
Some of that happening out there. So I'm happy you enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 You got a front row seat. That's good.
And then there was go pack go chance, allegedly, that turned the Pittsburgh Steelers into having to use a silent count at home.

Speaker 1 Bruce Arians, former Pittsburgh Steelers coach, says, I'm embarrassed for the Steelers fans. But other than that, what do we learn on the field? AJ has a question for you, Coach.

Speaker 16 Yeah, Coach, I don't know how many times you've watched like the Packers or the Steelers offense play as a fan.

Speaker 16 I know as a kid, I'm sure you have, but watching Aaron from the stands, like as a fan, what was that like? And what do you think his game looks like?

Speaker 16 He's moving around pretty well out there, and we know he obviously can still throw the ball

Speaker 9 yeah i i think he's really starting to settle in i thought i really felt that way watching him against cincinnati you know the the week before and you know i mean it's you know it's like practice every day aj you've been there he he makes you know three or four throws you just you know they're they're routine but they're you know he's still his ball placement is still off the charts you know he's starting to use his legs more but i thought he looked good you know the uniforms are were different um you know mind some of the you know uh throwbacks that we you guys were back in the the day but uh it was it really was it was a great atmosphere the go back go pack go we've heard that so many times on the road that that was something i think i'd ever hear in pittsburgh but it was it was a really cool night and i i thought uh you know green bay really stepped it up in the second half i've i've seen green bay play live three times now and and seen him in person i've been very impressed on you know week one week two and and then this past game against pittsburgh aj says whenever he watches a game and i think a lot of x players say their natural tendency is to watch the position that that they play.

Speaker 1 Okay, so AJ probably watching like linebacker potentially playing whenever he first retired. For me, obviously, I watched quarterback.

Speaker 1 That was kind of what I do in that entirety. When you're easy, four-stringer, brother, watch Thanksgiving.
Go see the perfect pass rating. I don't know how often you played there.

Speaker 1 But coach, are you watching and like calling plays in your head or thinking about like what you would do next if you were calling the plays? Is that happening for you? Especially with like Aaron?

Speaker 1 Like, okay, Aaron's doing this. I think we should probably do this next.
And have you done that with every game that you've watched? If that question makes sense?

Speaker 9 Yeah, no, it makes perfect sense because I just think we're all a product of our experience. I watch it more from a game plan perspective.

Speaker 9 I'm always very interested in who's playing with quicker tempo, you know, the game operation, play entry, things like that, substitution, you know, particularly, you know, watching Aaron.

Speaker 9 You know, he had the, you know, the one offsides that wasn't called, but you know, the pre-play opportunities and things like that.

Speaker 9 So, and then, and then obviously the third down, the red zone, you know, the situational and the game management stuff. So, I think you tend to just really try to go in the ebb and flow of the game.

Speaker 9 And it's, and it's funny because, you know, you're sitting there trying to watch the game and it's, it's cool, but when you have other people around you that want to talk and ask questions, you're, you know, you're like, come on, man, it's third and five here.

Speaker 9 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, pay attention.

Speaker 9 I mean, it's, you know, what defense are they in? So, I mean, yeah, so no, it's, uh, I think you just, you watch the game from what you're used to.

Speaker 9 So, um, I just really try to really stay in tune with the situations.

Speaker 9 And because, you know, it's just like you look at that game, there's two or three plays for Pittsburgh that go the other way, you know, then, you know, maybe it's a tighter ball game in the second half.

Speaker 9 So, you know, and just, you know, because, you know, the ebb and flow of the game is, is, is so critical to the success in our league.

Speaker 9 And I, I think it's just the parity has been so evident that games are that competitive.

Speaker 9 And, you know, the big plays just can swing that momentum, you know, so far to the left that sometimes you can't get it back.

Speaker 1 watching in public is certainly difficult you know with people around it i don't want to say like i'm some super football expert but jesus when you watch a game in public and you hear some things that people are saying it's like this guy being dumb has this person ever

Speaker 1 Have you ever watched the sport before?

Speaker 1 It is hard, isn't it? Coach, I couldn't even imagine for you. I could not even imagine for you, but

Speaker 1 it's great how much people love it, though,

Speaker 1 which is part of it all, you know, part of it all. You talked about the second half there for the Green Bay Packers.
Connor Connor has a question for you.

Speaker 3 Yeah, coach, the second half numbers are coming out with the Steelers, and it's pretty bad. Hembo sent some stuff just basically saying, yeah, here it is.

Speaker 3 The Mike Tomlins Steelers allowed fewer points per game in 2008, 2011, and 2010 than they're allowing in the second half alone this season. And, you know, Tony has talked about this a lot.

Speaker 3 It's not as big of a deal if there wasn't so much money on the defensive side. And what I want to ask you about is this clip from football and with Big Ben and Spike.

Speaker 18 The Pittsburgh Steelers, when I was there, and for as long as I can remember, were the best in the world or one of the best in the world at making halftime adjustments.

Speaker 18 As players, we were proud of the coaches at halftime. Great coaches that were able to make halftime adjustments.
We didn't play well in the first half. They were going to make adjustments,

Speaker 18 and we were going to go out in the second half. And as long as we executed and did what we were supposed to do, the adjustments made at halftime were going to give us an opportunity to win.

Speaker 18 As I'm watching these games, it doesn't feel like the adjustments are being made. And again, I'm not in the locker room.
I don't, maybe they are and the players aren't. I don't know.

Speaker 18 This is just my opinion. Now, is that coaching? Is it players? Is it adjustments? Is it lack of adjustments? I don't know, but it just feels like the second half of ball games.

Speaker 18 And it's, and

Speaker 18 I'm just asking a question. Are we making the proper adjustments?

Speaker 3 Yeah, so, Coach, obviously, even Big Ben is kind of questioning.

Speaker 1 And we love Ben.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that football show is electric. He came in the suite, too.
Awesome guy. And I'm a Patriots fan.
I don't even give a shit about the Steelers.

Speaker 3 But when you're looking at something like that or hearing something like that, and then Tony just let me know 47% of the points they've given up have come in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 3 What the hell is going on?

Speaker 3 Because it feels like there has been, especially the past few years, where there's been issues with the offense or defense, and the halftime adjustments have been called into question.

Speaker 3 And obviously, they let go of Matt Canada midseason, which was very kind of not the Steeler way, if you will. Do you see something happening with the defense when it comes to

Speaker 3 something along those lines? And what's your kind of understanding of it after being in there on Sunday night?

Speaker 9 Well, I think you've hit on a couple excellent points here. I think number one, you know, and, you know, first off, you got to love Ben's beard.
It's looking sharp.

Speaker 9 That was strong.

Speaker 9 But

Speaker 9 I would say second half adjustments, I've never been, you know, one to say, hey, let's get in there at halftime and and get this adjustment.

Speaker 9 I mean, because it's really, from the coach's perspective, is going on

Speaker 9 the whole game. I mean, if your coaches aren't, if your communication network is not

Speaker 9 flowing through the whole course of the game, then yeah, there's something wrong.

Speaker 9 Halftime really gives you a chance to go down and show some pictures as a group, do more group talking and things like that. And dressing kind of, it's more of a reset.

Speaker 9 So I think the adjustment component is something you just got to look at, you know, the flow of what's going on I mean I think when you you get into games and you watch uh trends that that continue to happen then then then that's a potential issue you know I think that's something that it's week eight week nine I look at these more as trends you know I think that's why you got to really watch how you react to stats and trust me every head coach every general manager everybody you know the analytics departments the the the influx of information is constant so I can promise you that they're looking at it and in the reality of they're going to clearly know what's going on inside.

Speaker 9 You know,

Speaker 9 was the communication, was there a breakdown on the adjustments that only the players know?

Speaker 9 Because, you know, sometimes, and AJ tested this, that, you know, things, things are said and it's not clear during the course of the game.

Speaker 9 And sometimes you don't get that iron knot to halftime or get an iron knot, unfortunately, till after the game. And that's, to me,

Speaker 9 that's really reflective of your communication network that needs to go on throughout the whole game. So, yeah, I think

Speaker 9 these are things that they're definitely addressing. And we all understand that when things don't go right and there's a lot of money involved, then

Speaker 9 the criticism goes way up and that's justified. And I think that's whether you're a coach, you know,

Speaker 9 in a situation where, you know, that's going on at this time of year in our industry, but also with players. So that's part of the criticism.

Speaker 9 And the higher the stakes go up in the NFL, the intensity is only going to go up.

Speaker 1 I heard Peyton Manning say halftime adjustments were a lie. Okay.
I've heard AJ and you say say something similar.

Speaker 1 So whenever players like Ben say, like, we took a lot of pride in the fact that we made great halftime adjustments.

Speaker 1 Is that just second half calling plays that are good as opposed to calling the same shitty plays from the first half on both sides of the ball? Is that what they're saying?

Speaker 9 I can't speak for them, but I think also the you know, a big part of play calling this too is

Speaker 9 the execution.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I mean, you know, I always felt that, you know,

Speaker 9 a quick, good call is better than a late, perfect call. And because give it to the player.
Like my goal as a play caller was to get it to the quarterback as fast as it can.

Speaker 9 You know, no different if we're talking about the defense. I mean, AJ called the defenses for us in Green Bay.
I mean, he's a much better communicator if he has it quickly because...

Speaker 9 Every play call in today's NFL, and it's been like this for decades, there are potential adjustments in pretty much every situation.

Speaker 9 So, you know, I just think when you talk about the communication network, it's not just halftime. You know, it goes on throughout the whole game.

Speaker 9 So, you know, because you want to be clear, concise, and get it to the player so that they, you know,

Speaker 9 because they got to communicate, you know, the higher the communication, the higher the confidence is and the higher that the execution level will go up.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and like the Patriots, as an example, they are terrible in the first quarter of games.

Speaker 3 If you go back and look at a lot of the games they've won, they're down either after the first 10 minutes or first quarter.

Speaker 1 Slow start.

Speaker 3 yeah always and then their defense after the first quarter the the numbers are insane so like that's why the adjustment thing feels real but maybe not just halftime now on that note you talk about quick good play call instead of being late and aj had the green dot aj i'm gonna huddle what

Speaker 1 i heard chase daniels

Speaker 1 I heard Chase Daniels do a play call in his helmet, what it would be like. I obviously never got to experience that.

Speaker 1 That would have been so cool to be able to have that happen before going out on a field and then trying to do something very, very difficult.

Speaker 1 But now that I know that you've been this guy, and we know you're super chatty and stuff like that. So, can you just walk us?

Speaker 1 Can you walk us through? Because there's no other mics anywhere. Can you walk us through what a huddle would be? I'm a huddle with you here.
I want to feel like I'm in the huddle. I want to agree.

Speaker 1 I think it's a little different.

Speaker 16 First off, it's not going to be nearly the conversation, the communication that Chase had.

Speaker 16 It would be very, very simple. I'd say,

Speaker 16 tightwell, me too, Buster. Tightwell, me too, Buster.

Speaker 1 Okay, any situations I should be thinking about leader?

Speaker 16 No, that's the problem. You actually, that's the thing.
When it's going in your ear, you got to say it as the coach is telling me.

Speaker 16 So I'm speaking, but I can't hear myself as I'm yelling it to the rest of the whole defense and repeating it over and over.

Speaker 16 You, I've seen guys freak out like that, and all of a sudden they get the speaker and it starts coming in, and they just freak out and panic and can't tell you the call. I've seen that happen.

Speaker 1 All right, can you give me one more?

Speaker 16 Do you have your ears in? Never call a timeout. If you're on defense, you call your favorite blitz or your favorite defense, buddy, and you tell them, sorry, pal, you didn't come through my speaker.

Speaker 1 I couldn't hear a word you were saying. I need you water.
Raucous environment. Jeez, we're just a Lambo, bro.
Yeah. Fourth time.

Speaker 1 Coach, did you hear that bullshit? We couldn't hear a word you're saying.

Speaker 16 Imagine a defensive coach. Can you imagine as an offensive coach?

Speaker 16 Coach, if a defensive player called a timeout because he couldn't get the defensive call in, I would assume you'd be a little bit upset at me if I would have done that.

Speaker 16 I would just give us a call, right? I can give the defense a call.

Speaker 9 Absolutely. No,

Speaker 9 you always have to have a go-to call.

Speaker 1 I was D-tackle there, too. I was turning around listening to you.
Imagine D-tackle calls timeout because I can't hear. Wait, what's A-Tap? No, no.

Speaker 1 AJ, what's your favorite go-to call, though? If you couldn't hear, what's your favorite go-to call?

Speaker 9 I don't know. I had a little,

Speaker 16 you know, double A-gap blitzers.

Speaker 1 There you go. That's most likely a call.
Why is that? Why is that? Who gets to go?

Speaker 1 well i would usually i'd go first and go ram my skull into the first person hopefully ricochet into the quarterback all right that's awesome thank you for taking us inside a huddle with you aj that was an honor yeah yeah god hall of fame nominee got a chance to hear i know

Speaker 1 chase had a lot of communication in that one now that was that was much different than the offensive well i couldn't hear a word you were saying chase had a lot more projection in his voice um did you hear him do that what was your play calls like let's say oh here we go oh okay yeah this is the one you want to do

Speaker 9 oh you're talking to me?

Speaker 1 Yeah, definitely. Oh,

Speaker 9 you want a play call? Favorite. Need one.
I'll just go old school with you. Well, you got a part two.
You got the you got blue, right, C left, two, Jeff Flanker drive, X corner.

Speaker 1 Blue, right, C, left, two, Jeff, drive, right, yeah, yeah, down. We're down to that corner corner, Brady.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's get another one.

Speaker 16 Would you say anything after, Coach? Would you say anything after, like, hey, watch him, you know, watch him play in cover two? Did you like, if you had time, George Pickens,

Speaker 1 getting the ball.

Speaker 9 Oh, that. Well, I'll be honest with you.
I mean, every quarterback that, you know, as far as a play entry, like some guys wanted to play, like Brett Favre, Brett was like, hey, tell me to play.

Speaker 9 You can talk to me all the way up to 15 seconds.

Speaker 9 He was fine.

Speaker 9 Now, Rich Gannon, you know, because these are the guys I kind of learned with as a quarterback coach and coordinator is, you know, Rich Gannon wanted to play and get the hell off the, just get out of my air because he was going to, you know, he was going to talk more.

Speaker 9 You know, and Aaron was more like Rich.

Speaker 9 Dak was probably a little more like, so, I mean, every guy was a little different. And that was really we call the play caller's purpose.

Speaker 9 And the play caller in the quarterback room, you spend a ton of time talking about each play call in the game because, you know, you go through your offseason, you put the plays in, and these are for normal dining distance.

Speaker 9 But if we use this same play in third down, then there are adjustments that go with it. So, you know, there's a lot of conversation that goes on about each and every play with the quarterback.

Speaker 9 So, you know, we, you know, the purpose of the play call.

Speaker 9 So you always might want to tag a reminder, you know, you know, with that, particularly if you're using, you know, a four-vertical scheme in first and second down, as opposed to a four-vertical scheme in third down, because obviously the coverage will be tighter, you know, the matchup emphasis is maybe different.

Speaker 9 You change the formation, but the concept's the same.

Speaker 9 So I think that, you know, the biggest thing for quarterbacks, and that's why, you know, so much that goes into these off-season programs is these conversations.

Speaker 9 It's always the little stuff.

Speaker 9 It's the little things that you can give, you know, not only you give to the quarterback, but he can give to the ex-receiver breaking audio or, you know, to the tight end on a vertical scheme.

Speaker 9 You know, make sure you hit the inside edge of the hash, you know, just all those little coaching reminders, particularly the biggest ones. I think that's where you were going was in protection.

Speaker 9 You know, your protection adjustments are always, you know, that's really the starting point of getting the plets set.

Speaker 9 You know, you set the plate, you know, set the table, get everything ironed out, make sure you got a solid protection because from a passing game standpoint, you feel if you got a clean pocket, then you should be able to defeat the defense.

Speaker 1 Okay. I'd love to hear all that from your brain.
Honestly, thank you for allowing us in on all that information.

Speaker 1 That is incredible to hear, especially from somebody that did at such a high level for so damn long.

Speaker 1 I would need the wristband, I think, you know, just kind of getting into the offense, but it's fourth and eight. Okay.
Fourth and eight, 47 seconds left. We have no timeout.
We're on our own 32. Okay.

Speaker 1 I do have George Pickens and I do have CeeDee Lamb. Okay.
And I am the quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys. And you need to act as if I am Brett Favre or Dak.
Like, I don't mind the reminders here.

Speaker 1 What would be your play call? Fourth and eight on your own, 30, whatever it was. 47 seconds left, no timeout.
Got to have it. We're down four.
Okay. We are down four.
Need a touchdown.

Speaker 1 And I like you being chirpy. Okay.
So I'm in the huddle, please, please.

Speaker 9 Okay, you got to just go double, double right, two jet, X knife, Z Puma.

Speaker 9 Just, you want to get in a two by two, give you an option based off where they're going to tilt the coverage because you got CD on one side. You obviously got George on the other side.

Speaker 9 So, if George gets the one-on-one, don't forget we told him. He's got the team to play, Pat.

Speaker 16 You got to tell the offense to play, too. He forgot to tell them to play.

Speaker 1 We don't have a timeout, because

Speaker 1 when am I telling them to play?

Speaker 16 Tell them to play as he's telling you.

Speaker 8 Oh, am I just giving him the play?

Speaker 9 You said, Chatty, man.

Speaker 1 No, I know, but when am I supposed to tell the boys what the hell we're doing?

Speaker 16 He's not waiting on you to respond. He's waiting.
You got to tell the play. You got to tell the guy.

Speaker 9 I already gave you the play.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but when am I telling the boys? Why you're telling me about if George is single right there?

Speaker 9 So that's I was explaining I was explaining the play.

Speaker 9 Hey, double or

Speaker 9 double right to Jeff Flaker, John C. Puma.

Speaker 1 Don't forget about the one-on-one with George.

Speaker 9 Take the Kodak.

Speaker 1 You got it.

Speaker 1 Five-year penalty. Maybe a 10-second runoff if things aren't real.
It's tough stuff.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Hey, we need to work on this in the offseason.
It sounds like I need to be paying a little bit more attention in the offseason. That's insane to think about that right there.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Yeah, but if you know his quarters, you can just throw it deep, baby. You can hit CD or George Pickens.

Speaker 1 We're not getting it for that. Coach, we appreciate the opportunity there to kind of dive into what your life is on a regular basis.
And it has been for a long time. That was cool.
I got no shot.

Speaker 1 I think I'm more of a freestyle coach. Sure, sure.
I think I would be doing can't hear, can't hear, can't hear.

Speaker 9 Well, we've seen that before.

Speaker 1 That's been thrown through, huh? Yeah, I think that happens a lot.

Speaker 1 I think some of the quarterbacks that have actually done it have come on this show and go like, other guys' things, like they say it's not working. It doesn't work.

Speaker 1 Mine actually go out every single time I do that. It's like, yeah, sounds like that's for everybody.
So, yeah. All right, let's go to massive game this weekend.

Speaker 1 Obviously, historic type shit, especially if you look at literally the history of these two teams. Go ahead, Ty.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Coach, you talked a little bit ago about the parody in the NFL.

Speaker 4 And while I think, you know, that is definitely true, coming off a weekend in which we had more blowouts since 1970 or whatever it was, Chiefs and Bills always deliver no matter what.

Speaker 4 They've, you know, basically the AFC has kind of come down to one of these two teams for the last several years, it seems like.

Speaker 4 What do you think about this game? How do you see it going?

Speaker 4 And does this remind you at all of like maybe Packers when you were coaching them and Seahawks where you kind of knew no matter what, you might have a game in the regular season, but there was a good championship that came, you know, NFC championship or, you know, deep in the playoffs, like you were going to see this team again.

Speaker 9 Yeah, definitely. I mean, we've talked on the show before about, you know, division games.
I've always loved the division games because they were always the most competitive games of the season.

Speaker 9 But when you do have the parental playoff contender that you'd see almost annually,

Speaker 9 this may even go to a different level. So this will play like a playoff game.

Speaker 9 And that's the way these guys will

Speaker 9 view it, but won't talk about it because the intensity is going to be real because there is history.

Speaker 9 There's great history. You got two marquee MVP

Speaker 9 championship level quarterbacks

Speaker 9 that will highlight it. But yeah, this game will be of tremendous intensity.
But

Speaker 9 you always love playing in those games. I mean, Seattle, I think of Seattle and Green Bay,

Speaker 9 particularly in the regular season, you know, the first thing was where was the game? Because, you know, that was a little bit where, you know, the crowd noise still was a factor.

Speaker 9 I think the offenses in today's NFL do such a better job at the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 9 And I know it's something, you know, coming out of the 90s and the early 2000s, you really had to work on to handle crowd noise.

Speaker 9 Because, you know, back in the 90s, when I was at the Kansas City Chiefs, we very rarely lost to home games.

Speaker 9 We had great defense, great special teams, and their head was just impossible to, you know, to deal with from a noise standpoint.

Speaker 9 So I do think the noise factor is always a component that when I think back to those Seattle games, because we had some rough moments there up there in Seattle sometimes in our early days with the noise.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. I just thought of four different rough moments for you guys up in Seattle.
Literally, as you said that, just four different pull, put a pull.

Speaker 1 John Ryan's throwing a touchdown on one of them.

Speaker 5 Oh, yeah. That That was the big one.

Speaker 1 John Ryan's like, yes, right here. Yeah.
That was a big one.

Speaker 3 Can see AJ in that one, too. AJ was in the worst spot possible on that play.

Speaker 1 Well, that's because he called a double-A blitz for himself. He did.

Speaker 1 That's what he did. Or Coach McCarthy not had that.

Speaker 9 What are you guys doing here?

Speaker 1 I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.

Speaker 1 We were trying to exclamation point your point that, yes, we do remember the times up in Seattle. Now, on that note, there were some times in Green Bay.
Let's go, babe, huh? Ain't that right, Ty?

Speaker 4 Yeah, definitely. That NFC championship game in Seattle, though, that one will stick with me for the rest of my life.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm sure it'll stick with both of you.

Speaker 1 You know how mad Patriots fans were?

Speaker 3 You know how mad Patriots fans were? We finally were going to have Rodgers versus Brady in the Super Bowl. It was the most mad I've ever been at the Green Bay Packers because they screwed us.

Speaker 1 Okay, so let's get away from that. Obviously, when you're in a game for a long time, these moments are going to happen.

Speaker 1 Congrats to you both on getting to the top of the mountain, still being champions for the rest of your life. That's right.
Rest of your life. Because if some of us, you know, they'd never...

Speaker 1 Okay, I thought you were going to put your ring out right there. I said of was that.
Then, uh, were you? I don't know if you were with the Packers still at the time of the replacement refs.

Speaker 1 Were you there for that? Oh, yeah,

Speaker 1 yeah, yeah, oh, yeah, we were both there, yeah, coach. Is it hard? Man, what do we

Speaker 1 gotta do?

Speaker 9 We're gonna have a production meeting or something,

Speaker 9 Christ. I'm bleeding all over the place, Rachel.

Speaker 1 I'm so sorry. All right, let's go through all my worst days.
Okay, I'm sorry that we got

Speaker 9 that was a bad day now. That was.

Speaker 1 I know, I understand. I understand.
I'm so sorry I brought those up, but you brought up the bad days in Seattle. So I'm sorry that my brain.

Speaker 9 I brought up crowd noise. I didn't say anything about that bad day.

Speaker 1 All right, all right. I was like, well, in my head, I heard you say that.
And then so many bad days. And once again, they popped up in my brain.
So obviously being a part of it has to be different.

Speaker 1 Hey, we want to let you know. Let's bury the ball.
Let's bury the ball. We're going to bury that ball.
Okay, four of them, I guess. We're going to bury four of those balls, and we're going to move on.

Speaker 16 We appreciate you, packers boys we appreciate you packers boys now football is awesome parody a couple different times go ahead aj yeah pat mentioned parody coach we this last week we had a slate of games where there was a bunch of blowouts that we don't really see in the nfl that often i guess is there a reason for this is this a time of year like why do you think we did see so many blowouts

Speaker 9 Well, I think like, you know, a lot of things that, you know, there's a lot of variables that go into this, but when I see stats like this, I know as a head coach, you know, one of the hardest things, not hardest things, one of the things you enjoy the most is competing with the other NFL coaches as far as how you train your team.

Speaker 9 So, you know, to have that many blowout games, you know, at this point in the season, I think

Speaker 9 you got to take a look at it. Why? You know, just when you look at the CBAs in 2011 and 2020, you know, less time with players and, you know, the youth,

Speaker 9 the NFL is a younger league now. So does that mean also the backups are younger?

Speaker 9 You look at the injury challenge that you have every single year. Are we doing a better job helping in that area as far as the training and things leading into that, the sports science?

Speaker 9 I just think there's so many factors. You know, you can also say, well, it just timed up that this team was hot and that team wasn't.
You know, but

Speaker 9 I think these are things the league really needs to pay close attention to because I think you can go down a bunch of rabbit holes here because when you look at the success of a national football league, you know, the first thing is you look at the money and the money is just is off the charts.

Speaker 9 It's greater than it's ever been. But, I mean, is the quality of play? How are you evaluating the quality of play? So when you see things like this,

Speaker 9 I know for me personally, I go right to the training, okay? You know,

Speaker 9 there's so much that goes into how you train your team in the off-season program, how you train your team in training camp, how you're in-season training because all the adjustments you have to make with this injury challenge, the development of the back half of your team, because your younger players, your backup players,

Speaker 9 are you spending money on a middle class of free agency for your backup players, or are you also solely investing clearly in the young players as the backup too?

Speaker 9 So all these different components play into it. And I just think when you get there,

Speaker 9 you'll see the separation in the competitive level and you have games like this. So I hope this is just an accident,

Speaker 9 but I think it's a bit alarming is the quality of play. We talked about September football, and I've felt September football has been

Speaker 9 not very good in the last 10, 12 years. I didn't really pay attention to it that much in my early years as a head coach, but I also started

Speaker 9 trying to train differently in training camp to do certain things in September, just because I just think that's the way this thing's gone because less time with players and coaches does not equate to higher quality of play.

Speaker 9 I don't care what the numbers say,

Speaker 9 what goes into it. And I think that is showing up here.
That's rearing its head more and more, in my opinion,

Speaker 9 as we

Speaker 9 move forward here. I just wish there could be more time, particularly even if it's just with the younger players.

Speaker 9 And AJ, you go to our experience in Green Bay, and we had the thing called Vet Select, and the vets were...

Speaker 9 thought it was great that they were you know getting some time off and things like that but the other side of that was it was giving the coaching staff more time with the younger players so these younger players are playing more and more each and every year they're playing earlier, especially if you also, you know, if your roster, you know, development or your profile is that you're young all the way through, you know, particularly even with your backups, you know, where's the extra training to

Speaker 9 make sure these guys are ready to play? Because let's also, you know, let's throw in the injuries. You know, when guys aren't totally ready to play, they play what?

Speaker 9 A little less confident, a little less confident player on the NFL field. And injury risk can go up.

Speaker 9 So I just think there's a lot of rabbit holes you can run through here when you see a statistic like last week. That's the first thing that hit me.
I was like, wow, I mean,

Speaker 9 that's something you got to continue to talk about. First of all, now with that being said, they're not, you know, they're making more money than they ever have.
So nothing's going to change.

Speaker 9 So thanks for giving me a chance to, you know, just add a lip here.

Speaker 1 No, you're sticking up for coaches there. Sticking up for coaches is a lot better.
No, absolutely. Coaches get judged.

Speaker 9 They don't have enough time with their players.

Speaker 1 Exactly. But players get drafted off of potential.
And then what do coaches say? Well, potential gets your ass fired.

Speaker 1 Potential is only really potential if you have the ability to work and get to that, you know, and that's where the coaches come in. Coaches are getting judged on that.
On, hey, this was the potential.

Speaker 1 This is where he's at. This is on the coaches.
And then the coaches are like, you guys have cut into all of our. all of our training time.

Speaker 1 And I think what you're hearing from Coach McCarthy there is not just him, but the coaching community as a whole when it comes to the NFL, whenever you talk about the new CBA, the amount of training time, we'll drop this off, we'll cut this off.

Speaker 1 And the people that are making those decisions, you're saying, are only worried about what percentage of the money are either side getting and what is the money, as opposed to what the product is on the field, which is literally all the coaches are being judged about.

Speaker 1 Is that an accurate take on why you feel that way?

Speaker 9 No, absolutely. No, that's part of it.
But I mean, you know, we get into this profession and understands the risk. So, I mean, it's not as much about that.

Speaker 9 I just, you know, we want to be the best that we can be. And the biggest thing about coaching is developing every player to his fullest ability, you know, physically, mentally, and emotionally.

Speaker 9 And less time with those players

Speaker 9 doesn't help help that cause. So I just, I would just like to see more time with the players, you know,

Speaker 9 particularly offseason. And frankly, more padded work, you know, more padded work in training camps.

Speaker 1 Wow. Are you making a guardian for shoulder pads

Speaker 1 and thigh pads? And I know the tailbone pad maybe disappeared. We need to bring that back, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, absolutely. Maybe bubble ball.
Oh, there we go. Maybe bubble ball in the offseason.
You guys will get the physicality and the reps.

Speaker 1 Players get the safety because you can put them in those things.

Speaker 1 They can do walkthroughs. You know what I mean? Everybody can kind of get blown up in those as well.
Don't you think that could be impossible?

Speaker 1 But you know, they're not going to let more training take place. Like in that kind of thing.

Speaker 9 No, I know. I just think the offensive line has been at a disadvantage.
And I could just, I don't know if I've said this on the show before.

Speaker 9 I can remember when I was on the Coaches Madden committee and, you know, the late, great John Madden would always bring it up. And he'd say, how can we help these offensive linemen?

Speaker 9 I mean, they're at such a disadvantage coming out of training camp because, you know, they, you know, they have the least amount of time to get ready to, you know, to do their job because of, you know,

Speaker 9 only a certain amount of padded practices, you know, where the offseason, the perimeter guys can still work on their footwork, their timing.

Speaker 9 And, you know, there's a lot more training opportunity for the perimeter players.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And if you're

Speaker 1 going to be a good team, you're going to have to have a good offensive line. And if you're going to be an ass team, it's probably because you have an ass offensive line.

Speaker 1 how the football goes at this point, Coach McCarthy. And always has.

Speaker 9 It always has.

Speaker 1 That's football, baby.

Speaker 1 That's football, Coach, right here. That's what football is.

Speaker 1 Always will be. Where's the game one, Coach?

Speaker 1 Where's game one? Where's game one?

Speaker 1 I'm in trenches.

Speaker 1 I'll be able to fight somebody in there, coach. That's football until the very end.

Speaker 1 No matter how much they soften it, no matter how much they try to change rules, you're always going to have to be able to punch somebody in the face better than the other team.

Speaker 1 That's what you're going to have to be able to do in football until the end. Amen.
No matter how much they change rules, that is literally why football is football.

Speaker 1 And if you look at the teams that win, they are able to fight and win over your team. And you look at the Philadelphia Eagles last year.

Speaker 1 I mean, that was just like the perfect epitome of old school football coming back in the biggest way here in 2025. They say cyclical.
Right now, we're about to see some pine happen. Oh, pine time.

Speaker 1 Big pine.

Speaker 1 Every time's turning a pine time, Coach Carl, you know what I'm talking about. 2-4-7.
Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 9 I just think, I mean, you look at the playoff teams every year.

Speaker 9 Look at their offensive, defensive lines. I mean, it's clearly evident.

Speaker 9 You don't make it in the playoffs

Speaker 9 if you're not able to get it done. I think that's, you know,

Speaker 9 it'll never change. You know, and I think with the run Philadelphia is on, you know, their offensive line this last decade has been so impressive.

Speaker 9 And I think it gives you the opportunity to have consistency. And just their level of consistency here the last five years is unbelievable.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think your population of panton needs to be a tough group.

Speaker 1 That is just what panton in the trenches got to be a tough group of citizens that you got on your squad if you're going to want to win.

Speaker 1 Now, who are you bringing in to the team, maybe, if you want to go on a real run? And who the hell are you getting out if your team stinks maybe and is absolute shite?

Speaker 1 Tone has a question for you, coach. Yeah, coach, the next time we talk to you, the trade deadline will have passed.

Speaker 1 And obviously your time with the Packers as heads coach, the trade deadline was much different than it was when you were with the Cowboys just a year ago. How has the trade deadline changed?

Speaker 1 And what is the responsibility of the head coach during the trade deadline?

Speaker 9 Well, I mean, the biggest thing is I think people don't really

Speaker 9 understand how much conversation these personnel departments, you know, that's going on. I mean, that's been the same at every place I've ever worked.

Speaker 9 So there's a tremendous amount of conversation that goes on. I mean, that's just really those guys doing their jobs.
And really,

Speaker 9 from my experience, you know, it really gets to the head coach when it's really becomes a possible and viable option. So

Speaker 9 we didn't do a lot of it at all in Green Bay. There's more conversation

Speaker 9 in Dallas

Speaker 9 during that period of time. So, but

Speaker 9 it really comes down to know, how can this player help us, you know, at that particular time? And then there's also the financial component to it from a long-term standpoint.

Speaker 9 So, but, you know, these personnel departments, they, they do a hell of a job. There's a tremendous amount of communication that goes out there.

Speaker 9 You know, someone had asked me, do you ever have to talk to players about, you know, when their name's out there in the public as far as being part of a trade talks?

Speaker 9 You know, I really didn't have too many of those situations because I think really players, in my experience, lean on their agents at that time,

Speaker 9 because there's a network of communication that goes on throughout this period. And it obviously heightens with the trade deadline in front of you.

Speaker 1 Coach, feels like you handle every situation impeccably. If any university was to reach out to Coach McCarthy and get him as a head coach, not saying you would, I think they would win immediately.

Speaker 1 And if any NFL team was to reach out to Coach McCarthy, I think they become a winning organization immediately. We love the hell out of you, Coach.

Speaker 1 And it's not just because we think you could win anywhere you were to go coach again, because that's what you've done your entire career and that you're a Yinser.

Speaker 1 It's also because you've helped us win, brother. Now, we won't be able to make this pick in the next minute, 15.
And it's not actually a pick.

Speaker 1 It's actually just listening to Coach McCarthy describe how he thinks tonight's game is going to go.

Speaker 1 And if he was to be making a pick off of how we hear his words, like we basically making pick for him whenever he describes a word, he'd be five and three right now.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's not bad. We won't be able to get that in here in the final moment, Coach McCarthy chit-chatting about that, but we will continue digitally on YouTube,

Speaker 1 TikTok Live.

Speaker 1 I think we're also on ESPN Plus. We're on Disney Plus.

Speaker 1 Yes, we are. We're currently doing Disney Plus.
All those digital things we will continue. And Coach McCarthy will break down what the game's going to happen.

Speaker 1 And we got 30 seconds to fill here, Coach, until the ESPN show ends. Any messages for the cafes or restaurants out there that are following along across the country, Coach McCarthy?

Speaker 9 Yeah, quickly, five and three, that's bullshit, but we ain't got time to get into that.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 Baltimore, I think, clearly is getting healthy. You know, Miami, you look at these two teams statistically,

Speaker 1 there's a lot to sort through here, but

Speaker 9 I think Baltimore is, you know, I watched them play

Speaker 9 last week.

Speaker 9 I like what they're doing. I think getting Lamar back, you know, staying balanced on offense will serve him well.

Speaker 9 But I don't even know what the points are. Usually tonight with the points.

Speaker 1 Seven and a half, seven and a half, Coach.

Speaker 1 A lot of points. Seven and a half.
A lot of points. On the roads.
Non-division game. Non-division game.
Non-division, though. Yeah, coach.

Speaker 1 Division game is tough with all those. Big knife and television.

Speaker 1 Big knife and teal of the white. Oh, it's fresh.
He's wearing a visor again. Clean.
He's wearing the visor again.

Speaker 9 No, they're playing.

Speaker 9 I really like

Speaker 9 Miami's front.

Speaker 9 I think, you know, clearly, you look at them on paper. They're starting to produce.
I mean, the past defense is something that it'll be interesting if Baltimore tries to get after them there.

Speaker 9 But, you know, both teams run the ball well. Turnover ratio will probably be a big deal in this.
I think one's minus five and one's minus six.

Speaker 9 So, you know, whoever takes care of the football will probably prevail tonight. So there's some

Speaker 9 evolutionary comment right there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is. It really is evolutionary, you know, because the stat you need to look for is the turnovers normally and see who wins the game.

Speaker 1 I forget what the percentages are, but if you win a turnover battle by like two, I think it's like a 75 or something. Yeah, yeah, I think whatever.
Yeah, and then three plus is some absurd number.

Speaker 1 And then obviously, if you're able to take care of it, let's go to one half of the hammer. Dad, Cowboys, that Bubba Gumpino, what did you hear Coach McCarthy say there?

Speaker 1 How does he think the game's going to go? And what are your thoughts on his thoughts?

Speaker 2 Sounds like he was leaning Baltimore until the spread was spoken of. So I think he's leaning fans to keep it tight tonight by the sounds of things.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he said both teams can run the ball well. We heard him talk about the trenches earlier.
AJ, what did you hear from former ball coach here? What he was saying?

Speaker 16 I heard the coach might be leaning Baltimore. He said they're getting healthy.

Speaker 16 Lamar wants to put on a show, and he thinks, you know, that Dolphins may be, that win may have garnered their head a little bit. They're taking them easy.

Speaker 1 That's interesting. So Dumpty says one way.
AJ says the other way. Classic.
It talks like Tebb. Are you just as befuddled as I am in this entire process, Ty?

Speaker 4 Well, like we mentioned, you know, with it being seven and a half and kind of starting on Baltimore,

Speaker 1 it's not division game.

Speaker 4 That's not, you know, that's not, it's not too many points for a division game. So I think coach is going to stick with the Ravens here.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's the biggest put-up or shut-up game of all time, you could argue. You know, Lamar, put up or shut up.
You got rid of all of our fun games.

Speaker 1 You better go out there and play your ass off.

Speaker 3 And the other side is too. You know,

Speaker 3 you've been bumping your gums about how leadership sucks. And, you know, you got a huge win on Sunday.
You can go from one and six to three and six in six days. Time to put up or shut up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think it is big time put up or shut up. Yeah.
Put up toys

Speaker 1 or shut up

Speaker 1 for Baltimore. Yeah, put up something or just see you.
I guess it's kind of how Dolphins fans might be feeling. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, how does he feel, you think? I don't know. He's a big pull-up show up guy, it feels like.
Yeah, I think he just had a homecoming back to Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 He knows Lamar's having a homecoming back down to Miami. You think he's a big night for the purple and the black? Oh, because he had a great night back in Pittsburgh.
Yeah, but that team.

Speaker 3 That team in the homecoming didn't have the best night.

Speaker 1 The anti-weight team. Oh, yeah, you're right.
In the ass uniforms. The dog right right behind you is beautiful.
What's the name of the dog?

Speaker 9 That is Gus.

Speaker 1 What a name.

Speaker 1 Great dog.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's a great dog.

Speaker 1 Is that a majestic golden retriever that's all white like Peter and

Speaker 1 Ben? Rest in peace. And Mitch and Herb Streets type dog? Is that what that is, if I'm looking at it accurately?

Speaker 9 That's a yellow lab. He's a yellow lab.
He's a hunter, hunting dog.

Speaker 1 How is he? How old?

Speaker 9 Seven, seven years old.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 9 master champion. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What's that? Excuse me?

Speaker 9 He's a master champion.

Speaker 9 He's got his 11

Speaker 9 medals.

Speaker 1 Master's champion. So he goes to Augusta.

Speaker 1 Bird dog.

Speaker 9 Yeah, he's a bird dog.

Speaker 1 Oh, so

Speaker 1 he gets a bird faster than any other dog?

Speaker 9 Yeah, Doc Pheasant. Yeah, he's.

Speaker 1 Are we doc jumping with him as well?

Speaker 9 As soon as I get off his damn show, I'm going, I mean, yeah, I get get

Speaker 1 duck hunting. Hold on one second.
Sorry, I'm slowing up your duck hunt. Obviously, pull.
We do the entirety of it. Are you calling ducks as well? Are you calling ducks as well? No.

Speaker 9 No, I am an amateur when it comes to bird hunting.

Speaker 1 And you got an 11-time champion? How's this getting, Matt?

Speaker 1 Does Gus lead you to duck hunting or you lead Gus to duck hunting? How'd this guy come?

Speaker 9 Hey,

Speaker 9 he was bred. You know, he was bred to be a champion.
So I let him fulfill his dreams.

Speaker 1 11 times.

Speaker 9 No, it's a good dog. Oh, he's a, you gotta, you gotta get 11 ribbons.
That's what it is. 11 ribbons.
You gotta, you gotta go through the different classifications to get to get the master champion.

Speaker 1 Oh, like karate. I get

Speaker 1 Dungeons and Dragons. Black belt of Verdun.
Dungeons and Dragons. Obviously, valedictorians do that.
Okay, we appreciate the hell out of you, Coach. You're the man, Michael Carthy.
Yeah, coach.

Speaker 1 Wait, wait, wait. What's his pick? Oh, yeah, who do you like? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, he's muted. He's muted.

Speaker 9 No, no, no.

Speaker 9 Who's my pick? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 9 So it's seven and a half. Uh-huh.

Speaker 9 That's not. All right, I'm going to go against the grain here.
I'm going to go Baltimore.

Speaker 1 Wow. All right.
Out of Vision. Yeah, we appreciate you.

Speaker 9 I don't like. That's a lot of points, but

Speaker 9 I like Lamar going home.

Speaker 9 I think that's going to.

Speaker 1 Are we in a blind? Where are we? Where are we headed to?

Speaker 16 How many do you get to shoot?

Speaker 1 Carson going. Oh, he's going.

Speaker 1 The ducks got you. The ducks got you.
That's them fighting back. Quack, quack.
Coming in and attacking you. You're in a blind?

Speaker 9 Yes, we'll be in a blind.

Speaker 1 Okay, how many people?

Speaker 1 I'll let you know if I go.

Speaker 1 Yeah, enough of these shits, okay?

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Speaker 1 What's with this damn show?

Speaker 1 What's with all the questions? What's with all the questions?

Speaker 4 That is hilarious because we won with him until like 1:45 every week. I bet after that, he's just looking down at his clock, like, we're still going.

Speaker 1 What the fuck's going on?

Speaker 1 It's two o'clock.

Speaker 1 We fucked it up. I guess it's one o'clock central, is where he is, right? Oh, yeah.
Yeah. One o'clock pickup from Tucker.
Yeah, still got a good one. Gossip's got a pack of one camera.

Speaker 1 Goss is weight on me.

Speaker 1 Gus is all paid.

Speaker 1 Daddy.

Speaker 1 Could you imagine him booping him underneath the table? Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, hey.
12th ribbon on the way. What do you want me to do, Gus? We're trying to get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 1 These guys can't take the hit.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 So he picked Baldmore. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Baldmar.

Speaker 1 He's the best, dude.

Speaker 1 College started that way. I would have taken it.
He could do it. Assistant coaching job at Pitt 25 years, they would offer definitely.

Speaker 1 I would do it. You're taking it.
You just give me a regular price right for the time that we're in for 20. Yeah, I'll take it.

Speaker 1 We're a medium price, just just the whole way, it's calm place like Patricia on offense, except times a thousand, just creating a monster there and never leaving.

Speaker 1 Actually, I'm just gonna stay coordinator here. Yeah, he could go Wisconsin right in his back.

Speaker 16 He played tight end himself, he was a tight end in college.

Speaker 1 Gosh, so is MCDC,

Speaker 1 so is Vrabel, so is JJ Watt, Dicka,

Speaker 1 so is Dicca,

Speaker 3 Mike McDaniel.

Speaker 1 He did not, okay. Oh, shit.
You got it. Slot receiver, I was thinking.
Yes, exactly. He's running routes with McVay out there.

Speaker 1 Shout out you. Shout out you.
Shout out to very smart people. And shout out to the Miami Dolphins.
All right, Gumpy, we're going to make our picks, and let's get the hell out of here.

Speaker 1 Gumpy, you say what? As tone tells us, the percentage that is on the public and the percentage that is with the sports book and any other fun factoids about tonight's Thursday night football battle.

Speaker 1 Tonight, the Ravens are minus 7.5 heading down to Hard Rock. They are getting 69%

Speaker 1 of the bets against this Red, which is the same exact percentage as the Chiefs on Monday night when they took care of business down there. It is seven and a half across the board.

Speaker 1 You cannot get it any other way. Okay, over, under, 51.5.

Speaker 1 Where's that rank amongst them? It's pretty high. It's pretty high NFL total.

Speaker 2 Especially they're both over teams, though.

Speaker 1 Dong, go.

Speaker 2 Dolphins have been over. Their defense looked better last week.
Like I said, I've been saying it all week. They started using 6-0 linemen.
They average over seven yards of play when they did that.

Speaker 2 They got to stick with it. But if they fall behind and they get pass happy, that's when they're going to get into trouble.

Speaker 1 Your confidence level is pretty high.

Speaker 2 I've been so negative when they lose that since they won and look so good. I got to ride the wave.
I got to support the boys right now. Malik Washington touchdown tonight is plus 400, I think.

Speaker 2 He's been the second guy since Tyreek has got hurt. He returns kicks and punts.
He's electric. Six-rounder out of Virginia Virginia last year.
I love him.

Speaker 1 I got a baby gumps. Thank you, Humphy.
It's Marlon Humphrey playing. Do we know?

Speaker 1 Don't. Playing ping-pong? Yes, that's what I'm saying.
Not playing ping pong. He's on that field.
They're not playing ping-pong over there.

Speaker 1 We appreciated Lamar being the one coming out and saying it was me. We were taking the TVs on it, too.
I'm about to sick if we don't need to. Yeah, Mr.
Steve. We're all doing that.
Mr.

Speaker 1 Steve, thank you for the TVs. Mr.
Steve, we love these TVs, but just can't have them. Take the remotes.
Unplug them. It can't have power to the locker room.
We need to lock in.

Speaker 1 They do, but people think they're going to. People think they're going to sports books.
Think they're going to lock in and go on a run.

Speaker 1 I think that's just because of our belief on who this Baltimore Ravens team is. Even though this year with our eyes, and we're getting pretty deep into season now.

Speaker 1 Okay, we should have mid-season awards.

Speaker 1 Okay, we're getting pretty deep into the season. Our eyes are kind of telling us something that maybe they aren't who we thought they were.
And does that make sense?

Speaker 1 Because we haven't seen them with Lamar over the last few weeks. No.
So that's why tonight on prime time, with the world watching, Lamar returned to Miami. He's going to go absolutely ham, A.J.
Hawk.

Speaker 1 Is that what you're expecting from Lamar Jackson?

Speaker 16 Yes, that would be my prediction. I'm taking the Ravens minus seven and a half on the road tonight.

Speaker 16 I think Lamar, I think he comes out there and, you know, he's a jolt of energy for this Ravens team, and they play well on offense and defense.

Speaker 1 I will be doing the exact same, strictly because I've been, you know, traveling with a Miami Dolphins fan. I feel like I know this Dolphins team pretty well.

Speaker 1 I feel like

Speaker 1 I know their players. I know the way they operate.
I know the way ownership likes to operate.

Speaker 1 I know the way general manager slash president slash guy who has a lot to say for a long time down there likes to operate.

Speaker 1 Just certain things, I think, not necessarily every single day of his life or their lives, but just their worst decisions for sure. I'm hearing about those on a regular basis.

Speaker 1 And in my eyes, I see some stuff. And it's like, yeah, that seems to match up with everything that I'm hearing from, you know, lifelong fan of team who is just, what are we doing? What are we doing?

Speaker 1 From the offseason when they traded away all their good players and then said, yeah, we're trying to try to win this year. It's like, well, yeah, we got to figure it out.

Speaker 1 Did you guys get rid of like the drama that was in there? No, no, it's already still on team. Yeah, we got rid of actually the people that like this team and we're like, like proud to be on the team.

Speaker 1 So it's like, okay, so

Speaker 1 what is the plan down there? And then it starts going the way that it's going.

Speaker 1 And you immediately think to yourself, like, I guess Miami Dolphins fans could probably say that this was going to be ass from the very beginning, but they had a blind optimism strictly because they had seen success in the past.

Speaker 1 And in my eyes, they have a huge win against the Falcons. That was awesome.
Massive. Huge win.

Speaker 1 Is that enough to just swing the pendulum to be able to stop the Lamar Jackson momentum that's coming that everybody's expecting, including sports books who are risking a lot of money by saying they think he's going to come back and dominate?

Speaker 1 And they seemingly are right on a regular basis.

Speaker 1 I like the Baltimore Ravens as well. And this Miami Dolphins experiment thing, it's going to be fun to talk about like 10 years from now.

Speaker 1 Like it is good because they could still become, they have all the talent down there. For sure.

Speaker 1 And legitimately, just like Dolphins fans were able to sell themselves on this Dolphins team, that's still all there. Now, granted, no Tyreek Hill.

Speaker 1 So that is a game changer for his electricity, but still offensive innovation, a quarterback that can make great decisions, get the ball out quickly. Defense can make some stops.

Speaker 1 We've got some special teams. We've been able to win games in the past.
It's like this Dolphins team has everything that could get and waddles faster than everybody still.

Speaker 1 And, you know, we hope hope to see a lot of waddle. And we hope he waddle with a waddle in the end zone a couple different times just because he is electrifying.

Speaker 1 So you can get caught up in the wait a minute, the Miami Dolphins are the team. And maybe they are.

Speaker 1 And maybe tonight they prove it to everybody that what you had seen with them isn't actually who they is. And then on the flip side of that, maybe last week was the anomaly.

Speaker 1 You know? Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 Possible. And maybe this Baltimore Ravens team figures out how to play defense.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I like the Baltimore Ravens tonight, minus seven and a half strictly because I can bet on Lamar Jackson with clear conscience.

Speaker 1 It's tough for me to do that on the other side. That's fair.

Speaker 2 There was one other massive change last week, Frank Smith, the OC. First time in two years, he was down on the field with the guys.

Speaker 1 He's talking to the boys.

Speaker 2 And he was actually the reason. Darren Waller said he'd only come out of retirement to play for him or John Gruden.
So that made a big difference last week as well.

Speaker 2 Best the offense has looked all year.

Speaker 1 Coach Smith down on the sideline?

Speaker 1 Frank, you said?

Speaker 2 Big Frank Smith, yeah.

Speaker 1 Francis Smith, they say whenever he's around. Yeah.

Speaker 3 The boys feel everybody.

Speaker 2 I just didn't want to leave anything out.

Speaker 1 Wait, is Big Mike calling plays or is Big Frank calling plays? What's that? Big Mike McDaniel calling plays or is Big Frank calling plays? It's a Mike and Frank duo. Okay.

Speaker 3 I think it's little Mike, too, since we have a big Mike.

Speaker 1 Big Mike was great on the show today. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He was so good today.

Speaker 16 You think he's going duck hunting?

Speaker 1 I mean, he's got a a fucking 11-time award-winning dog. Yeah, he'd hope so.
Like,

Speaker 1 if he was not duck hunting, that'd be wasting that dog. Yeah.
Like, actually. You know what I mean?

Speaker 16 He's got to train him. That's what a dog's trained to do.
You need to take him out. That's what he wants.

Speaker 1 It's his drive. All that dog wants to do is just go get a bird.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Wakes up how much longer until I get a chance to go get this fucking bird. He just wakes up, sea bird, get bird.
Bingo. Just like AJ woke up, sea ball, get ball.

Speaker 1 AJ actually woke up and said, let me punish myself in this weight room for two hours to showcase that I still have discipline and I'm humble.

Speaker 1 Let me go.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Then when he got drafted, he was coming right out of the weight room. They said he was.

Speaker 5 So Andrew Brandt said.

Speaker 1 Oh, never forget it. AJ comes in,

Speaker 1 dripping in sweat from a workout. I say, do you want to go through this? He goes, no, I assume my agent got it.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 Sign up a dotted line. I just want to play football on the weight.
Point me in the weight room. Click-clack, dude.
Also, they're paying me. So

Speaker 1 you're right.

Speaker 16 Always.

Speaker 1 Hey, you had a good click-clack moment there for a long time. That was a good ad campaign.
Oh, yeah. Fantastic.
That was really good. I'm still talking about it.
The Youngs would never understand

Speaker 1 when click-clack came through.

Speaker 1 Changing cleats game, dude.

Speaker 16 First year they, yeah, first year they had football cleats. It was my rookie year.

Speaker 1 What was another game-changing commercial with sounds? The squeak basketball? Yeah, the Nike basketball ones, yep.

Speaker 16 Budweiser Frogs.

Speaker 1 Great one. Great.

Speaker 3 Rivet. The basketball, so Christmas jingle.
Where they're shooting threes, and it's just

Speaker 1 the bells of cladsdales cloudsdales during christmas time yep good sounds coca-cola click good sounds that was kind of a cook clack too those are good super bowl commercials they need to do the uh i'm not getting anybody i mean but bud lights dude

Speaker 4 yeah well it was kind of short-lived apple had a run where they

Speaker 4 uh the one where the the guy basically just goes around and like his buddies are doing stuff that pisses him off and he just keeps saying like dude and you know it's like uh oh yeah those were classic and what was the other one bud weiser had the uh wash.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 that was huge. Yeah, that was the Dudley Boys, right? Well, and more so afterwards, the Dudley Boys.
I didn't even know who it was. And then the 3D.

Speaker 1 Apple had a good run where they were just like coming out with banger songs that no one had ever heard of before, but they were sick. Yeah, that was great.
Come along.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was one of them. Still listening to it every single day from the moment I heard it on him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, where do they find him?

Speaker 1 That's Jimmy Iveine, I guess. Yeah, Apple meter.
Yeah, yeah. He's dead ear.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what they say. There's other people who say he couldn't hear my shit, could he? I saw those on the air.
But hey, you're always going to have that.

Speaker 1 Governor Jeff Landry, thanks for stopping by today. Thank you, George.

Speaker 1 Busy man. Busy man.
He's going to have to change all of everything. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And also, a gator two are going to have to die during that. Yes, they are.

Speaker 1 Ain't that right, AJ?

Speaker 1 That's absolutely right.

Speaker 16 Right. Does he have his own Gator farm, Duino?

Speaker 1 Home State? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yes, you're right.

Speaker 16 He does. He rules all of the land.

Speaker 1 He can can go wherever he wants he does Louisiana we're Louisiana yeah we can go hop hunt dash wall like

Speaker 1 he dude got an air air boat parked in his front driveway I've been down in Louisiana I went hogging frogging and um

Speaker 1 hole in right uh

Speaker 1 definitely went holing

Speaker 1 yeah yeah whatever it's called yeah isn't it you're plugging holes yeah you go plug holes oh it's called uh noodling

Speaker 1 yeah shouldn't be doing that around gators they say And don't stick your noodle in a hole.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That is what they say. And it's.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think that is what they say. Banana to mouth, not mouth to banana.
Bingo. Sure.
That's what I say. All right.

Speaker 1 All right, here we go.

Speaker 1 That's what they say.

Speaker 16 I think either way, it might look similar.

Speaker 9 Nope.

Speaker 1 Yep, you try it out there, baby.

Speaker 16 Tone, show us. Show us, Tone.

Speaker 1 I'm not your guinea, kiddie banana. Geez.

Speaker 3 No, you're my guinea banana.

Speaker 1 Get it? A battalion. No, no.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 1 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 1 A little bit.

Speaker 1 A little bit. It's Halloween.
You can say whatever you want. Happy Halloween, everybody.
Happy Halloween. Happy Halloween.
Titan's got a new mustache, new face. Do you see that age? That's big days.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he looks good.

Speaker 16 It does look, honestly, every time he cuts, he looks very different. It's weird.

Speaker 1 It's true.

Speaker 3 Yeah, beard to mustache does kind of change.

Speaker 1 He went, didn't you just go beard, full beard to nothing on us one time? Did that happen?

Speaker 1 I think it was like Tom Selick right now. That's cool.
Oh, you do look good. That's a good beard or mustache.

Speaker 1 He dated Monica Giller. Hey, JC took that thing time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he did. I told him.
I gotta take it, Don. You see, Skelly's here.
Nice return.

Speaker 16 Man. So those kids took that giant thing out of AQ's yard and then brought it back, obviously?

Speaker 1 Yeah, one of them. They tried to get two of them, but that's some of the bitch on the other side fought back.

Speaker 1 We got...

Speaker 16 Oh, sorry.

Speaker 16 We got trick-or-treat tonight and it's good it's been a monsoon since last night it's still going yeah tonight i thought it was on friday everybody did no come on it's so hot you don't trick-or-treat on friday night because there's high school football on friday night no there's no one's ever done that here god that's awesome i didn't even think about that love that you're lost brother Wait a minute.

Speaker 16 No, we don't. Trick-or-treat's a great added weeknight that feels like a weekend night.

Speaker 1 No, definitely. In my mind, in my head, and I think back as a young lad, young boy,

Speaker 1 I think about middle of the week Halloween is what I think about. When we were young, it actually never fell on the weekend.

Speaker 1 I don't know if that's true or not.

Speaker 1 It did kind of feel like that. It felt like that, though.
Yeah. Yeah, because you go to school, obviously, do the thing, and then you have the night.

Speaker 4 It was like a full feeling shit at school the next day, always, because you ate so much candy the night before.

Speaker 1 Exactly. It felt so cool staying up real, real late.
Yeah. Yeah.
Also, hustling. This one's for my brother.
He's sick. You know, two different pillowcases.

Speaker 1 He's at home. He wasn't able to call.
This is for my brother. He's sick.
Got the flu. It's terrible.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 Big, they got big candy bars here.

Speaker 1 That's my brother, my sister, too.

Speaker 1 Yep. I have to go ahead and collect these things.
What a time. Halloween was legendary.
Yeah, so funny.

Speaker 1 So much shit happened around Halloween when you just look back in your life, in my life, at least. So many.
Oh, yeah. I mean, college, Jesus Christ.
Yeah. I mean, yeah, right, dude.

Speaker 1 Morgantown, Halloween. I know there's other places to talk about it.

Speaker 1 Everybody was celebrating. Yeah.

Speaker 1 There's people that don't celebrate Halloween. I'm like, what fucking happened? Crazy.

Speaker 1 Did you know that if you go to a catholic school the day after halloween is always off all saints day

Speaker 1 brilliant

Speaker 1 some of these things are just really smart yeah some of these what's tonight though

Speaker 1 oh no last night no tonight

Speaker 1 devil's night which started in detroit detroit michigan sorry tonight is devil's night which i i think I don't know, the way we kind of viewed it is young, reckless teens who is purged, basically.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Tonight, we can kind of just go do whatever the fuck we want. Can't kill anybody, but I mean, we can certainly run a little rough shot around here.
No rules aside from that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we can certainly do some stuff here. People are going to be on guard.
Got to look for them.

Speaker 1 There's going to be people waiting for you.

Speaker 20 My old man used to sit on the front porch with a BB gun.

Speaker 1 Bingo. Those are the guys you can't run into.

Speaker 1 That'll get you. That'll be a bad devil's night.

Speaker 1 You don't want any of those. You show up Halloween there in school.
What happened?

Speaker 1 Mr. Meraldo.

Speaker 1 Nobody needs to be going there. Okay.
Golly. Baby drinks a man.
Yeah. Big Frank's out there with his boots and his gun.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 those were good times, man. Halloween's a great holiday.
And I appreciate Taylor LeWan celebrating this morning. Yeah, he did a great job.
That was great work. Six different costumes.

Speaker 1 I texted Will Compton in the middle of this. I'm like, yo,

Speaker 1 just kind of let him do it. Like,

Speaker 1 I think it's kind of his, it was like his, because he did have. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 He had a hot dog in her.

Speaker 1 That was going. Long-haired biker guy.
I didn't get

Speaker 1 from Tim Robinson.

Speaker 4 I believe that was supposed to be Macho Man. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Or Hulkster. I forget which one.

Speaker 20 It was supposed to be Macho Man. He actually apologized for the low quality of it later.

Speaker 1 Holy fuck, man. Okay, that was the first one, too, right, wasn't it? Yeah, right out the gate.
Oh, no. Should it camp a digger spot dog? You are.
Right out the jump. Can't you? He had good.

Speaker 1 This is Copt.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Captain Taylor Louis. Yeah, yeah.
I think that was a good one. He was the pirate.
Referee, great one. Obviously, Average Jose is good.
These are good.

Speaker 1 Great Will.

Speaker 1 Yeah, these are all good. Great customers.
The first one was.

Speaker 4 It was supposed to be Macho, man.

Speaker 1 Oh, I didn't know that. I wasn't watching at the time.
I only saw the picture. Okay, I see it.

Speaker 1 Did you?

Speaker 1 Seven cars. Yeah, I missed it.

Speaker 1 Ooh, you.

Speaker 4 See, I don't know if he even tried to do that.

Speaker 1 Smart. He made

Speaker 1 this what we're talking about here. Hey, good effort, though.
Good effort. I like that he did it.
I like that he did it. I appreciate it.
He loves Halloween. They got the spooky.

Speaker 1 He's all in on it.

Speaker 1 I really respect it. I do.
Halloween, good time, man.

Speaker 1 also nfl teams all gathering yes you can learn a lot about team halloween party that's good time middle of season check here you know you talk about like uh draft day where they're like birthday party the whole conversation about that with that quarterback coming out it's like team check here halloween how's it how's it how's it checking out which is why i think now i think there were some punishments that were levied upon certain teams during covid whenever you saw some teams gathering it was like oh these boys really fucking like each other like don't you think so aj i i think that we can really judge a team from that i think yeah one of your your favorite.

Speaker 10 Absolutely.

Speaker 16 If I'm a head coach right now, I would, I would be, I mean, I would be questioning the guys the next day afterwards. Hey, how, how'd it go? How was the Halloween party?

Speaker 16 You guys, anyone, you know, was a bit of a runaway, maybe? If you guys stayed, hopefully you stayed, you know, you were safe, but I want you guys to have a good time together.

Speaker 1 Also, who wasn't there? Can we talk about that? Yes, yep. Who was it? Trade deadlines next Tuesday.
Who's Poutin?

Speaker 16 Who's Poutin that didn't show up?

Speaker 1 Trade deadlines Tuesday. So who, who, just so we can get a nice little

Speaker 1 of this entire, and I'm not saying you're getting traded because you're not at the Halloween party. Obviously, people have lives and families and shit like that.

Speaker 1 But on that note, if there is somebody that is not maybe playing as well and also not getting along with the boys, I'm not saying that's going to immediately leave to a trade, but it certainly wouldn't affect it.

Speaker 1 Think about it. It certainly wouldn't affect.

Speaker 1 And then there's some, I don't know, maybe not anymore, but there was an era of people making decisions about teams that didn't even think about whether or not these humans would get along or like each other or they like-minded.

Speaker 1 Like that is something that was happening for a little bit. Feels like we've kind of gone away from that from every gatekeeper we talked to at least, AJ.

Speaker 16 Don't you think? Yeah, I should hope so. They at least say they do.
They at least claim that they're worried about the character and if the person, how they would fit in the locker room.

Speaker 16 I think the majority of the guys bringing people in absolutely do think about that. I don't think everybody does, but the majority do.
I think you have to.

Speaker 1 I think Halloween is a good thermometer.

Speaker 1 Because maybe you fucking like cards, you give back to the whole team. Yeah, the whole team.
You could.

Speaker 1 There was no Halloween party? Who hosted a Halloween party?

Speaker 1 One of the trainers had a gather.

Speaker 1 Nobody on...

Speaker 1 Quarterback didn't even... Oh, no.
Do we think your controversial guest held a Halloween party this year? He always does, right?

Speaker 5 He does love Halloween.

Speaker 1 He actually got into a little bit of a quagmire. He did get into a bit of a quagmire.
Because his very public stance on which part of the entire jab he was on.

Speaker 1 Certainly said, you're not allowed to gather around the others if that's how you're going to operate with your things inside your body. Yeah.
Was she right in the end of the day?

Speaker 1 Well, listen, everybody's going to be right somehow. I don't know, but I think he certainly feels vindicated by a lot of things he has seen in red.
Yeah. Absolutely feels vindicated.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but everybody else, everybody's right, which goes back to

Speaker 1 you guys need a scoreboard over there.

Speaker 1 Okay. They need a scoreboard in politics.
I don't know the world, okay, politics world well enough.

Speaker 1 I've gotten to the point now where I've gotten a chance to chat with people that have dabbled in that world, whether it's former teammates of mine going all the way in. Okay.

Speaker 5 How's he doing?

Speaker 1 Great now. He's watching.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 he's great now. But also, you know, from different events that we've been at where we've had a quick interaction, maybe a quick pepper of a question.

Speaker 1 And I do utilize, I think people would say that are around me in these moments, I utilize this time with these people to ask questions that I assume most people would not ask.

Speaker 1 Like I very much have a, oh, fuck, I don't know if I'm ever going to see this person again. Got to get it out.
Got it, got to, got to, got to get it out.

Speaker 1 So I've had a lot of those moments in the entirety. That world is just no, it feels like there's no winning, but also somehow there's no losing.

Speaker 1 I don't know how that even works. I don't know how that works.
Everybody's spinning that they're saving the world and everybody has somehow stats that they're saving the world.

Speaker 1 And if you have that, you're never going to get somebody to disagree or change their opinion. So they need a scoreboard, Agent.
They need a fucking scoreboard. People say election day scoreboard.

Speaker 1 And it's like, yeah, but does everybody listen to that and pay attention? Who's tallying?

Speaker 16 Who's tallying the scoreboard is the question. Who's putting the numbers up?

Speaker 1 Yeah, and what's a point?

Speaker 16 Yeah, because what's a great thing for one person and they're his whole group, the other group's going to come out and say, you're killing babies. Like, that's just how it works.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's always a very strong counter. Elector.
Always a very strong counter. What's that? We need to elect a grand scorekeeper.

Speaker 16 We need to do a point one. Like Jeff Landry.
We need to a point one.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Well, he's not going to make a decision, but maybe the people that he puts together. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Who does everybody like? Nick Saber. Boom, Nick Sabin.
He'll keep score. All right, one.

Speaker 1 Then they'll make a counter argument. Make out a half.

Speaker 1 You got no points. You lost points.
Why'd you think about doing that? And that's part of the problem. You know, as the counters start coming in, oh, no, you're ruining the world.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, you're the worst person. And then this, oh, no, you're ruining.
Yeah, but what about the good? We're not keeping score on that.

Speaker 1 We're talking about what the worst possible outcome could be here because that's probably inevitable.

Speaker 1 That's why we love what we have here in sports. All right.
be a friend, tell a friend something nice that might change their life. We're in this thing together.

Speaker 1 To the politician people, we appreciate your efforts. If your efforts are pure and you're trying to make everything good.
Without a doubt. Which we'll just assume you all are.

Speaker 1 Knowing that's not true, we will assume and hope that that's the case. So we appreciate you all so much.
Let's go ahead and get football and college sports figured out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because you guys sent that over to the NCAA. They're never going to get that done.

Speaker 1 Right, H?

Speaker 1 No chance. No chance.
They're waiting on you guys.

Speaker 1 And then he said, well, why don't we meet? Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's why I think it should happen. Exactly.
And on that note, everybody should meet. Everybody should be meeting all the time.
Let's be learning. Let's evolving.
Let's work together.

Speaker 1 Let's be a friend. Tell a friend something nice might change your life.
Wearing this thing together. Team on me.
Team on three. One, two, three.
Team. Goodbye.