PMS 2.0 1317 - Elite 8 Recap, Ian Rapoport From The League Meetings, Duke Head Coach Jon Scheyer, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Here we go, the Pat McAfee Show. I'm AJ Hawk, sitting in for Pat.
He'll be joining us from London, England, the O2 Arena, I believe. Sports! Have been amazing, Pat.
What's going on? This is awesome, actually. We get a view strictly.
This is, you are like, what, ringside, ready to go tonight. Obviously, Netflix, London, England.
How's it going over there, man? Hey, life is good, AJ. Thank you for taking the trip to

Indianapolis to host alongside the boys.

And obviously, it's a great group over there in the Thunderdome.

But let me let you know something.

This trip to London that I've had over the last 24,

48 hours has been nothing short of

spectacular. I got a chance to enjoy the

sights, you know. Have some

booze away with the

locals. You know, Wade Barrett,

who is a part of the commentary

team on SmackDown, formerly

Bad News Barrett in the WWE from England. His team, Preston North End, was in the FA Cup, I believe, quarterfinal.
They were taking on a squad. And, yeah, we boozed a little bit and watched that game yesterday.
Then we went on a pub crawl. Myself, Michael Cole, Wade Barrett.
We went time to time. There's Winston Churchill right there.
Let me tell you, he is a revered gentleman over here. He obviously did his thing.
We went to a couple of small pubs. This right here is James' pub.
His mom, Suzanne, started it in 1980. He's now the governor of the pub.
He lives upstairs. It's old school.
They gave me a Sunday roast of beef. I ate that uh you know probably gallons of beer we drank yesterday all around london a lot of a lot of lads were met and that right there is actually the uh laboratory uh that uh sets the world's time that that building right there i didn't want to walk all the way up the hill i didn't i didn't find it that fascinating but i took a picture of it from afar that is where you know the world's time starts so i got a chance to see the town a little bit wade barrett and uh stew is his name was walking us around him yeah i mean it was a wonderful day it was like 65 degrees clear skies in the middle of march i got a little sunburn in london in march yes i might be the whitest of whites uh to have that particular stat but it was a good time yesterday and And now Preston North and Wade's soccer team, they're not good.
Well, yesterday they were at least. They lost 3-0.
But the game before, guess what they did, AJ? What's that? They beat Burnley 3-0. Oh! That goalie hasn't been giving up any goals this year, I thought.
Yeah, well, gave up three to Preston North. And we're the one and only North End.
That's the chance I heard and enjoyed. But, yeah, it's been awesome over here in London.
Now we're in the O2 Arena. We got Monday Night Raw coming up here in a couple of hours.
Obviously, London time, five hours ahead. So it normally starts at 8 o'clock Eastern on Netflix.
Today will be 3 o'clock Eastern, then obviously running full-time. And it's an honor to be over here, especially with how big of a day we have today.
RapSheet's going to be joining here in a matter of moments. Coach John Shire from the Duke Blue Devils will be joining us in about 35 minutes or so.
And then, you know, for the rest of the program, we're going to be talking about all things happening around sports. I know it's not just you over there, though, AJ.
It sounds like there's a great group of lads over there. Is there a bunch of lads over there? Is that the toxic table do I hear? Is Boston Connor back

in the Thunderdome over there?

Yeah, back in the sand.

Good to be back.

I knew you were in London, so I wore the

Team USA hockey jersey. Something the Brits can't

do, play hockey. Another thing they can't

do, probably eat food. I assume you eat some

terrible beef and mash

or fish and chips or some

bullshit that they serve over there.

But yeah, it's good to be back, man. I'm excited

for Raw in London. It was a great

We'll be right back. terrible beast and mash or fish and chips or some bullshit that they serve over there.
But yeah, it's good to be back, man. I'm excited for Raw in London.
It was a great weekend of basketball as well. It's awesome.
I will tell you this. You walk into some of these places because of the fish and chips thing, you do walk right into a pit of ass.
I mean, it smells in some of these. And they're all kind of tight, you know? I don't think anything has smelled worse than a pub bathroom.
Like, you walk in there, it's as if somebody is shitting in your face whenever you walk in. Because it's real tight.
They're real tight spaces. You know, it's all real close quarters in there.
And I was as American as possible. I had a backwards hat on, obviously, at the Air Forces.
People were nice to me here. I did not expect it.
I did not expect the people to be as kind as they were to me, big dumb American. But I will say, yeah, they can't play hockey.
Yeah, they can't. Okay? They can't play hockey.
And it's coming home. We all know what that means.
Soccer is coming to the United States of America at some point. We're going to be good.
But on that note, sports did happen all weekend. I saw sitting next to you comment on if you saw Ty Schmitz wearing a Yankee sweatshirt.

What's that all about? You guys are using astrophysicists to cheat the rest

of the league? You cheat the sport? It's like

Barry Bonds, Mark McGuire,

Sammy Sosa, level stuff. Why isn't everybody

using these torpedo bats, hitting

dong shot after dong shot after dong shot?

Oh, we had eight homers in one

game. Oh, Aaron Judge has hit four

homers. I guess he's not using it because he doesn't need it,

but what are we doing with these bats

and why isn't everybody doing this, Ty? This seems

Thank you. shot.
Oh, we had eight homers in one game. Oh, Aaron Dodgers hit four homers.
I guess he's not using it because he doesn't need it. But what are we doing with these bats and why isn't everybody doing this, Ty? This seems like a genius move.
Genius move. That is an excellent question, Pat.
I don't know why everyone isn't doing it. You mentioned at the Yankees basically a couple years ago, he doesn't work for the team still, but they hired an MIT physicist and basically said like, hey, listen, we can spend all this money like the Dodgers are doing or you could basically just invent a new baseball bat that hasn't been done in like 200 plus years.
You move a little bit of the wood around, move more of it into the barrel so some of these guys who maybe aren't as good as hitters as Aaron Judge is, they can get around on the baseball and they can hit home runs. It kind of just feels like everything is right in the baseball world.
Everyone hates the Yankees again. Everyone's saying that they cheat.
You know, it's not so much the Dodgers anymore. They come out, they hit 15 dingers over the first three games, beat the shit out of the Brewers every single game.
And all is right in the world now. And now you've got a bunch of teams and agents reaching out.
Everybody's doing this, right, Todd? Didn't you assume every team's going to have these bats now?

Multiple teams had guys who were using it,

but no one obviously was as successful as the Yankees were.

But, yeah, I would imagine that by today or this week,

every team in the majors will have a couple of these torpedo bats on the way.

I listened to Jazz Chisholm, the guy that just jacked one right there,

talk about it a little bit, and he was just like, yeah, they said it's good, and I love it. I guess the more research I did on it, I read on it.
I'm not a great reader. Everybody understands that.
But I guess the max amount of weight and the max amount of girth that you're allowed to have, basically they just reshaped where that is. And it's like if this has been laying out there forever, the Yankees figuring it out and this physicist figuring it out, I think that's good on you.
You know, it's got a nine-year NFL vet, obviously host of everything. DB, good D, bad D, Darius K.
Butler. We're not baseball players at all, D, but.
But whenever you're doing something that's been available for everybody else to do, I got no problems with that. I think it's next-level thinking, don't you? Yeah, now we know that the NFL is a copycat league.

I don't follow the MLB as much, but I would assume they're going to be a copycat league as well, right? Yeah, without a doubt. Everyone's going to be doing this.
AJ, can I see that back real quick? Because I know you're explaining it, but you said Aaron Judge isn't using it because of how good of a hitter he is. Where exactly are they putting the wood? So they're moving it basically from like the, yeah, maybe of it into more around the barrel or up a little bit above the barrel, like around the signature there.
Because one of the guys they're talking about, Anthony Volpe, he gets jammed a bunch, so they moved some of the sweet spot up there a little bit so he can get around on it, and he's catching more barrels. Is it the engraving, though? Is it where the wording is and where they have the little engraving? That's changed as well, though.
Yeah, I think that's – What's the biggest part? Is it the mass moving? Is it not having those engravings right in the sweet spot or what? Yeah, I mean, look, it's moving the sweet spot of the bat around. They get more wood on the ball.
Exactly. They're just moving the wood around.
They're moving the wasted wood. Okay, they kind of doged the bats.
They took the wasted wood and moved it to where a more prevalent part of the bat would be. If I'm reading it accurately, Ty, right? No, yeah.
If I'm reading it. Yeah, that is correct.
They basically, yeah, because there are, like you said, there are certain parameters in which the bat has to be. And they're within, you know, like the rule book.
but there's nothing that says you can't kind of move the wood around to get it to a point in the bat where people are hitting more balls and that's what they did that's jazz chisholm there yes 13 yep okay so he's been talking about right and that's the most defined looking photo of the bat that i've seen i think out of all the photos and nobody ever hits it off the tip of the bat so that's normally where it gets bigger right normally just kind of normally just kind of like funnels out. Yep.
So you never hit it off the tip. If you do, it's not going anywhere.
So them deciding to just push that thing down a little bit, like out of sausages made, you know, and then kind of bottling in there, that feels like genius. Are they going to ban this? How long until they ban this? I don't know if they'll ban it because it is one of those things.
I mean, it's kind tush push almost. There were other teams that were using it this weekend.
When the Yankees do it or if the Dodgers would have done it, more people are going to see about it. Obviously, they hit nine homers in a game, so it puts a lot more attention on it.
But if other teams are available to use this, the guy who invented this doesn't work for the Yankees anymore. He works for the Marlins.
And there were some people that used it last year as well. So we'll see.
I think maybe if it gets a little bit too much, like if the Yankees are scoring 20 runs every single game with this going on, I could see them maybe doing something. But this certainly is a mean, this is a good thing for baseball.
They hit 15 home runs in three games. It's making the product more entertaining.
On that note, we all loved Dinger baseball back when everybody was just eating steroids. We all remember it, and that was when it was at its finest.
So if this torpedo bat's going to help out with that, as the pitching only gets better and better, which seemingly has been the case over the last couple years, I'm all in. I love it whenever

greats try to be innovative. Now,

Hembo sent me some stats here. The Yankees

have hit 15 home runs, which is tied

most all-time by any team through three games.

They tied who, Evan Fox?

Detroit Tigers.

Which year? 2006.

Nailed it. The Yankees

have a .084

slugging percentage and a 1.231 OPS. What's that? Very good.
On base plus slugging. Okay, both highest by any team through three games all time.
Okay, these torpedo bats. Most all time of slugging percentage on base.
Aaron Judge thus far, obviously, first 27 games, he had four home runs. That was last year.
He finished with 58. 2025, first three games, he has four home runs.
So, you know, he had a cold playoffs, and he said, why would I change anything with how good I did? It's like, well, maybe we drop that torpedo in there for Aaron Judge in the playoffs, and we start seeing how things go. Baseball had a fantastic weekend.
That was great. We'll talk about college hoops, obviously, here in a matter of moments, as we have Coach Shire joining us from Duke.
You know, White Mike is what they were calling him when he was growing up in Illinois

to go play hoops a little bit.

Can't wait to ask him about that and many other things.

The NFL is having quite a weekend.

Let's go to one half of the hammer.

Done!

Cowboys AP tone.

What are the odds on how many rules are getting actually changed

down at these owners' meetings, Tone?

Because he just mentioned it there, the tush-bush.

That one feels like that one's going to get overturned.

That one feels like it's going to get banned. I don't love it.
I'm not going to say that I am a proponent of that getting banned. But I believe the tush-bush, that one feels like it's on its way out.
And you already heard it being chatted about in a couple of these reports. Pro Football Talk's talking about it.
Schefter's talking about it. A lot of people are talking about it, how people in the competition committee.
I guess it got a little bit tense in there. I guess there were some people that weren't necessarily thrilled with the thought of banning this entire thing, especially because one team's better at it than all the other teams.
But they did mention the precedent of the special teams pushing from the linebackers on the D tackles for field goal blocks. It just feels like everybody doesn't want to say publicly that they want it to be gone because they're all football guys and somebody's innovative.
And I forget who said it. Somebody said it this morning in their meeting about like maybe Bean, I don't know.
Anytime somebody creates a play or Sean McDermott, anytime somebody's innovative with the sport, you never want to punish them for it. But it does feel as if there is a lingering kind of, it feels like they're going to get rid of this particular play.
Tony, is that an accurate reading from what you're getting? And how many of these do you think actually get passed at this owner's meetings down here? Yeah, I feel like that's an accurate reading from everything that's coming out. Obviously, you're starting to get the insight.
Not saying it should be. Correct.
Not saying it should be. Correct.
I'm just saying, like, feels like everybody that's in the room where it happens is like, I don't want to say this publicly because I'm a football guy, but also, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on. We got 900 pounds worth of dudes pushing people.
Like, this can't. One team's able to do it.
Nobody else is able to do it. And then the Eagles are like, so that's on us? And it's like, I'm not saying that it should be banned.
I'm just saying it feels like there is a ground support, a swell happening behind the scenes, like an underground type of convo about not wanting it in the game. Feels like it.
Just from reading from the outside in, I'm in London, but that's just reading the tea leaves and the crumpets, if you will. No, I think you are reading the tea leaves and the crumpets very well because the insiders are now coming out and reporting that there's a groundswell for this to be banned.
And once that starts happening, it feels that's normally something that does happen like because if they're getting that info from somewhere and i would assume it's the league and once that info starts coming out and they they get those votes that they want you can assume that the push push is potentially no more the other rules that i i think are probably going to get past the regular season overtime matching the playoff overtime that just makes makes sense. We talked about that.
There's no reason for those not to match. The moving the kickoff touchback to the 35, that also feels like there's a groundswell because going from, as we talked about, the 25 to the 30 wasn't a big enough penalty for the touchback in that situation.
More replay assist, that makes sense. I mean, there's no reason not.
We've talked about it many, many times. If we can just have the replay assistant you know voice down and say hey you had it wrong let's just move it to here move it to there that seems like the two that are i don't see the defensive holding and illegal contact not resulting in a first down like that's because we know these dbs yeah third and 15 they're just going to tackle guys there's no reason not to i don't see that one getting past it, but the most interesting one, I think, that is up in there

is the wild card seeding. Whether, you know,

a 14-3 Minnesota Vikings would

have to travel to L.A. if that game

was in L.A. in that situation.

Is that going to happen where the higher

seeded or the better win percentage team

will have to go to the division winner

as an away game? That one is interesting.

I got no idea if that one's going to pass. I don't even

have a feeling on that one.

D. Butch, Tom brings up a good

point there about defensive holding and illegal contact

I can't even have a feeling on that one. D.
Butts, Tom brings up a good point there about defensive holding and illegal contact. You guys will game the shit out of that one, so that's going to feel tough to change.
But also, wildcard seeding with how successful the playoffs have been thus far, I don't see him touching it. What are your thoughts on all these, D.
Butts? Yeah, I don't see him touching that either. I don't see him touching the defensive holding and illegal contact one because it is a defensive rule.
And I can't remember the last time they made a significant change to help the defense. Obviously, they like selling tickets.
They like scoring touchdowns, first downs, quarterbacks. We know how that goes.
Replay assist, that sounds great. We had the conversation last year.
I feel like every few years, a conversation where it's a team who, like the Vikings last year, 13, 14 games didn't have to go on the road.

But I kind of, I guess maybe old school in this mind frame of winning your division means something.

You know, winning that division, getting that home playoff game, that's a big deal.

So I would be hopeful that they leave that one as is.

Age, what do you think?

Age, what are your thoughts on it all?

I wonder if there's a possibility that none of these pass. Could could there be could they come out of here with nothing they get nothing done because i the tush push situation that i think you're right it feels like that thing will will get banned i don't think it should be banned i feel was mcdermott against the tush books i know the second i know we ran it yeah they were unbelievable yeah Until Matter moment.

Feels like there's some going on over there.

It's amazing.

They're testing out

the old speakers over here.

Let me tell you, Yeet is sounding

famous. It's just me.

It's been

quite a time, but you're right about the amount of

rules that actually get changed.

Normally, we talk about the NFL

Thank you. fan it's just me oosh you know it uh it's been quite a time but you're right about the amount of rules that actually get changed and like normally we talk about the nfl as like a big slow-moving ship where they kind of like set like little seeds in place and then you know i mean it is the speakers are great here in the o2 there's um there's a residency that happens here it's called 21 nights at the uh o2 and they have like awards in the back i guess prince's photo is like in the front of it he has like this silhouette so i guess there's only a certain amount of artists that have done 21 nights here that claim residency here this is an awesome arena hey all these they're much uh i don't know if they get used as much or don't get used as much whatever it is everything is so clean brand new like you know what i mean like everything is i don't know because like home arena yeah does any team is there a sport played there or is it just concerts and wrestling everything yeah because they don't have a lot of indoor sport you're right yeah and then he's over there so maybe that's why they're all so.
Like they're also like all the seats are like brand new. You know, like it looks, it looks very good.
But with that being said, all these rules have had seeds in place for a few years. You know, all these things have kind of started like the tush push granted that one's brand new, but I think they were talking about it last year trying to ban it.
The postseason overtime stuff seeds right since right, since the 13 seconds. Touchback to 35, well, they moved it to 30, so seeds, they already did that one.
Replay assist, they started doing it more towards the end of the season without telling anybody seeds, they're in that one. And then the defensive holding and illegal contact wild card seeding, those are basically the two that we've never really seen them kind of try to navigate.
So I think that's potentially why we have a doubt in it. Conman, what are your thoughts on it all, brother? I mean, I think moving the kickoff would be the one that would actually change the game damn near the most because, I mean, how many, what was the increase in plays that we already had last year? It was, you know, astronomical.
And then if you're thinking about moving that thing to the 35, does that completely change the, hey, we're just kicking the ball out of the back of the end zone? Because I feel like it just because you know you mentioned it moving the ball from the 25 to the 35 yards okay you know fine but now moving that thing to the 35 you really are two first downs away from a field goal so it feels like that would kind of create a lot more things we saw you know the Cowboys so their season last year obviously didn't go great but some of their best moments came from Turpin, you know, against the Commanders. That kick return touchdown against the Browns, you had the punt return.
But it does feel like moving the kickoff touch back to the 35 would actually then lead to, you know, kind of having to aim for that landing zone. Because in the Super Bowl, the biggest game of the year, we didn't see one kick return you know and i do feel like if they if that ball was coming out to the 35 that that would kind of actually change the entire thing so i think that would be the best rule to change than the other ones you know it just kind of is what it is speaking of you know the super bowl and everything like there's going to be times where teams decide to just blast it out and give the ball to the 35.
If the other offense is not doing great and defense is doing well, we'll just give it to them at 35. But just giving up forfeiting a first down all of a sudden and the percentage of scoring, I think teams will land it in the landing zone.
A person who might have a little bit more information on all this is a guy who is down at the meeting, Ladies and gentlemen, senior insider for NFL Network.

Is that going to be owned by ESPN soon?

A lot of rumblings.

Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rapoport.

What's going on, guys?

You look super cool, bro.

So good.

Appreciate it.

This is my Kentucky Derby suit from last year.

Got to repurpose it for these events.

I think it really fits in kind of with this atmosphere. And I got to say, gotten some compliments.
Gotten a lot of compliments. Really? Doesn't happen very often.
Why do you look tall? Mark Caboli? Interestingly, nobody has said that. I saw Caboli, by the way.
Yeah. I wear a suit.
Everybody also. Yeah, the world saw Caboli.
Yeah, can you post that photo of Caboli sitting next to Mike Tomlin? One of the most important press conferences that's happening at the owner's meeting is Mike Tomlin speaking about Aaron Rodgers. And all anybody can talk about is how damn good Mark Caboli was.
Wow. I don't know when you guys picked up this press conference.
There's an account that takes sports pictures and turns them into art you know it's like art but make it sports or something like they got to do this picture they got to do this to be clear to be clear caboli was there early okay he represents the program well he got a front row seat literally think about how many people are trying to get to the spot that he got to and instead it's just caboli baby got his cell phone i'm gonna record this for myself and uh he's so focused that it's gonna appear as if he's actually uh snoozing sleep and drooling wow mike tomlin speaking and that's that so do you know he made tomlin laugh so hard tonight he made tomlin almost spit out his drink to me yes at the end yeah he was just looking at the candy Is it about the candy where he says i heard me and dk metcalf have you seen candy yes yes roll it apparently we have the same uh appetite with for candy me and dk you hear about that no i didn't apparently he's four or five candy bears a day. Really? No.

That's what he said on a podcast. He wears it a little differently than you.

Perfect.

Pretty good. Pretty good.

Tomman's always locked in for those too. He's always given incredible clips.
Let's start

there. He talked about Aaron Rodgers, about how there's

a process of the offseason. You know, we're trying to construct a team.
You do it through a free agency. If you can't get through a free agency, you go through the draft.
Obviously, Aaron Rodgers allegedly was broken on NFL Network this morning on Good Morning Football, I believe, by one of your Paisano friends. Aaron Rodgers had a throwing session this past weekend with DK Metcalf at UCLA.
Now, was DK at UCLA at the same time Aaron was at UCLA and they just so happened to throw to each other? Or was this something that was organized and set up? What are you kind of reading through this all, Ian, especially down there, boots on the ground, with a used suit that everybody seemingly likes? Only used once. Lightly used, I think, is the proper term.
It's not, yeah. Okay.
Anyway. Yeah, yeah.
It still looks amazing. This was not a coincidence.
This was not like, you know, Matthew Stafford running into Brady at Yellowstone. This was a planned throwing session.
Sounds like it went very well from my understanding. It was lengthy.
It was, you know, look, Rodgers has his process. I think it's probably not as fast as many people would like.
This is what he needs. It might be his last stop.
Probably is his last stop, needs to make sure it's right. If that includes throwing with the newly acquired star receiver for the team, okay.
It sounded like, first of all, it wasn't exactly a secret. There were several other players.
Some rookies were trading kind of around. It wasn't much of a secret, but it was at UCLA.
It did go well. It was part of the process for Rodgers to say, all right, maybe this is my eventual destination.
And it seems to me, unless the Vikings do a complete about-face from what they've said publicly, that would be his only spot. So it feels like a matter of time.
But as you probably know, getting in the head aaron rogers and trying to figure out what he's up to is difficult um so i will sort of wait till it gets firm and final but that's just my general feel on ian is there a chance like is there a deadline like is there a certain date where something has to happen one way or the other here so the steelers and i think this is a little bit why there lot of reasons Mike Tomlin is like the best. He really does respect the players, whether his future players or his current players.
He respects their process. He respects their sort of, their desires.
And it's obvious Rodgers wants time. So they haven't said to him, like, all right, we need an answer by March 31st or whatever.
And he would be like, do you though? Like, you know, there's no actual deadline anyway. The draft is really the next time where things get real.
Because if you're the Steelers and you have Mason Rudolph, who I think they would be okay entering the season with, obviously you'd like Aaron Rodgers, but I think they'd be okay with Mason. If it's not Rodgers, they might draft someone.
And obviously you would need to know by the draft. So that's kind of the only real deadline.
And like, we've seen this before when he was going to the jets, it was, it was the Tuesday of draft week, right? If I remember correctly, when the deal got done, like, I don't know when Rodgers is going to decide or when he's going to make his announcement or whatever it ends up being. But if you told me it was draft week, like I wouldn't be that shocked because that's the only time it actually sort of an answer needs to be given.
Everybody's saying it's potentially going down on April 9th at big night. Oh, really? Really? I don't know that, though.
Everybody's saying that. Have you talked to the person who's running it? Yeah, I have.
I have. Every day I talk to that person.
I'm sick of it. In the mirror.
I'm going to be honest. I've been talking to him for 37 years.
I'm about to tell that guy. But, yeah, that person has not heard anything about that.
And that person also is very intrigued about how it all works out, especially because, I mean, the city of Pittsburgh, they've got a team. They've got a team.
Always have a team. If you get a Hall of Fame quarterback over there, I know some Yenzers are going to be kind of cold to start, but they were probably cold to start on Russell Wilson, you know, depending upon what the deal is for Aaron if he was to go there.
And allegedly the contract has already been decided by the Pittsburgh Steelers and Aaron Rodgers for weeks. So whenever that number is announced, whatever it is, we assume, we might be wrong unless you know, that is going to be a low number, not that big of a number.
It's not going to be a gigantic number. And I think Yenzers will be like, all right, let's go on a run here.
Let's see what the hell we can have. And then maybe they still draft a quarterback in that whole thing.
Okay, let's go down to Florida where you are at. Do you know the number? Do you know the number? Yeah, you act like you know.
I don't know, but I was told manageable. I believe what you are saying.
That'll be something where no one's going to be like, 58, you know, like it's not going to be like that. Manageable.
Yeah, or 40. I don't think it's going to be any – I think it's going to be – once again, I have not talked to any of the parties involved in weeks.
AJ. Yeah, AJ might know, actually.
AJ. Numbers-wise, I was going to ask Ian, what's the range? What could he sign for? What did Florio say? Yeah, what did Florio say? Florio said 60 years.
What did Schultz say? Well, he said, give me a latte wrap or I'll slap you in the mouth. You know what he said? That's a number, right? My God.
I don't know. Yeah, what's the range? As far as what the actual number is, just to be honest, I do not know.
And I don't think they're there yet where they could say, like, all right, Deals agreed to just waiting on Rodgers. I think there's still some things that need to be finalized.
But I would agree with you guys. Like, I'd be a little, like you, Pat, you were saying, it seemed like you were saying might be under 40.
Like, I think that's probably right. Because there is a history of veteran quarterbacks signing either with their own teams or with new teams kind of last year of their career or maybe second or whatever it ends up being, understanding like, I've made a lot of money.
The number doesn't have to be patient because you want to build the team around them. So that's kind of what I expect.
Aaron Rodgers has actually made the most. I i don't want to be pocket watching here but uh nfl money is all very publicly broadcasted aaron has been the most successful whenever it comes to cash and uh obviously that is a good thing especially if you're somebody that gives back philanthropist of the year in california thank you aaron thank you nice job let's go okay so let's get to let's you were never philanthropist of the year in any of the states that you live in you're absolute to remember that one not yet not yet not yet yeah you're right booze bag maybe some of the cities um okay i was with a couple professional booze bags yesterday you would have loved it have you ever done a london booze bag tour uh you know i need to i need to get over i mean this is my wheelhouse i saw on your social media you were hanging out in london now how many pints what's like a good number i don't know i i think uh no i was having like the local one that they had at each place so each place had like their own thing is that man and the people yep well i just i mean i'm never gonna get to try it again so when there, I was like, I might as well give it a go.
And they have these bitter beers. There's like a bitter beer.
And I really thought the bitter beer face. Yeah, exactly.
It was not like that at all. We're talking water.
Those things were. See ya.
Yeah, it was. Really? And I did put on a show a couple of times with the guzzling abilities.
You know, always with the guzzling. Okay, let's move to the owner's meeting, shall we?

Because you have information that we do not have if we need

information. And to be clear, we have a guest

in 10 minutes that we need to talk to that is

not

LeBron, but

a huge, huge, huge choice as tall

as you. Thank you.

I mean, that's a really high

bottom. LeBron's stuff was great, I thought.

That was awesome. It was a lot.

Thank you.

That was very kind of you.

Fascinating, I believe, is what you texted me in the middle of it.

You weren't the only one.

Okay.

So my Hembo stats say that the Eagles, since 2022, are 108 of 124,

whenever it comes to tush pushes, which is 87% of the time.

Now, it used to be above 90.

I think it was 92%.

That's why the New White Podcast is 92%ers, because that was when Jason Kelsey was in there. Obviously, he's a masterpiece of it all.
I am reading the tea and crumpet leaves from afar here in London. It feels as if there is a little bit of a groundswell from NFL people to ban this play.
Is that accurate? But nobody wants to come out publicly and say it because they all want to be known as football guys. Well, some of the people have come out publicly brian buddekins just did media i talked to him afterward he has come out publicly and said essentially this is first of all let me say this i don't know that it's getting banned but i do feel kind of like you're saying the groundswell may be rewriting it so like is it going to go away i don't know but rewriting it would make some sense.
And I think what they're nervous about is like the NFL, NFL officials have said very publicly, there's not enough injury data to see if it's something that like long-term could be a play that's sort of like an injury filled play. But what they're nervous about is some catastrophic injury to like an offensive line.
And the center is probably most at risk. And then you, and then you then you react and say then ban it so i think they're trying to get ahead of it and say how can we make it just a little bit safer eliminate it i don't know but i do feel the ground swell like let's try to make this a little bit safer before anything goes that mean like one pusher like what does that mean maybe or uh i'm not Like, what does that mean? Maybe or, um, I'm not a hundred percent sure.
I mean, one pusher might make sense or maybe one push. Like maybe that would be a way to do it.
Like I just stopped. That'll be easy.
Just one thrust. Sometimes one thrust is all you need.
We know that is all you got, too. In football.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but we're never talking about officiating this.
We're putting more judgment calls now into the ref's hands. I don't know if that's good play.
I know. I know.
This is the challenge, though. Them starting to mention the precedent of the field goal block team not being able to push years ago, and then now it feels like there's a chance this thing gets banned.
Who knows? Let's move to some other conversations. D-Bud has a question for you, Rap.
Yeah, down in Florida with the Dolphins. Tyreek Hill kind of stirring the pot a little bit, as he usually does on the Internet.
I think somebody may have tweeted, hey, who is that player most likely to be traded on draft night? Somebody said Tyreek Hill. I think he quoted it.
Are you hearing anything with real decision makers as far as Tyreek Hill possibly moving this offseason or at any point from the Dolphins uh first of all I haven't and I think he you know he does speak a lot on social media um he does sort of have his say and and I think this is good because you sort of want people to be able to speak their mind on social media right i think that's okay um i have not heard talking points there wait a read your talk i think this is no i mean i just in general like what what i don't want to do is sort of like players should have the ability to speak their minds like even if it annoys teams they should have this ability. I have not heard that he was going to be traded.
He also was recovering from wrist surgery. So trading some, same thing with the Brandon Ayuk sort of trade rumors or whatever you'd even call it.
You know, rarely do teams trade for people who are not fully healthy. So I think that would be complicated.
I think trading for his contract will be complicated. Could the Dolphins get enough or it would be worth it? I don't know.
I don't think so. So I don't see a ton here, except that probably we'll get him some retweets.
Fossil Conner's got something for you, Ian. Yeah, Rapsheet, another situation going on actually here in Indianapolis.
Dan Jones and AR are officially splitting QB1 reps. Is this going to be a true quarterback competition? Someone's got to win.
Is there no one with kind of a leg up? I think most people would assume Anthony Richardson would have that. What are you kind of hearing with that situation? Yeah, I talked to Shane Steichen about this today.
Basically said splitting reps 50-50. They've been told.
They've been informed how it's going to to go and it's going to be a storyline every day and i hope that that is really the case because the only thing that really matters for the colts is the best quarter match rates like you've already drafted anthony richardson you already gave him a big signing bonus as an early first round pick he's already had two years daniel jones got the money he got he base, whatever it ends up being. The money's been paid.
The draft picks have been made. The only thing that matters is who is the best quarterback for the Colts.
And so I hope it's fair. I hope it's real.
And like you guys have been in locker rooms, not all of you, but a lot of you guys have been in locker rooms. The players generally know.
The players generally sort of decide. And I think at the end of camp, it will be obvious, and I think that's who will be the Colts quarterback.
The highlights we're showing there of him with the Patriots, if he plays like that, he's unstoppable. That was the final drive against the Patriots, and it was Anthony Richardson playing his best football that he's ever played for us.
And obviously there's moments of magic there where Anthony Richardson's the only one that can do some of the stuff that he does. Hopefully he's able to figure it out this year.
Hopefully he's able to stay healthy. And if he can't beat Daniel Jones out, Daniel Jones fresh into a brand new offensive system, brand new building, I think that is obviously a situation that he'll have to learn from going forward.
There is a world where Anthony Richardson doesn't win this quarterback competition. I'm not saying that that's going to happen, but there is.
And let's say it doesn't work out with the Colts. He's going to go to another team and be so great.
You know, because it would be like a, I've thought about that this weekend while I was traveling. I'm like, Anthony Richardson's going to win a quarterback competition against Daniel Jones, you would assume.
And then you would assume this off season with how loud everything's been, ourselves included, that he would like be, okay, I've got to lock in. Very young, but he's like, okay, to be a professional quarterback, there's a lot that goes to it.
Like hopefully now it is kind of something it all buys into. And then I thought to myself, well, what if Daniel Jones wins, like clearly, and they decide to move on from Anthony Richardson.
It's like, well, there's the moment then that will tell him that he needs to lock in and be a pro. And it's like, then he'll go somewhere else and become a Hall of Famer.
So, whatever the case is, good luck, Andy. I hope it's with us.
I hope it's with the Indianapolis Colts. Are you getting news there, Rap Sheet? Are you getting some news? What's going on? Just text from my wife.
I'll answer this. Tell her we said hello.
Did you guys win any of your horse bets this weekend? Jude was the only one who won. Of hey Jude that's a big English thing isn't it Ty has a question for you I think so yeah rap sheet I know you mentioned it about like the Vikings and J.J.
McCarthy but they haven't officially said he's the guy even though everyone is very excited about him are they going to keep doing this will they won't they with Rodgers because they haven't officially shut the door on that? Or at some point soon here, are we going to get confirmation that, no, we're going with J.J. McCarthy and we think he's going to be our guy because obviously KOC has spoken glowingly about him as well.
Yeah, and KOC was just on with my buddy Pelissero on NFL Network. I think he posted either the video or the comments.
I think it was pretty strong that JJ is the guy. But even if they don't come out and say it, we know.
And I think, yes, I think they'd like him to earn it, but I think it will probably happen. It sounded like last year, early part of training camp, before the injury, he was really impressive anyway.
So, like, I know some people have sort of said, like, maybe Aaron Rodgers there. Like, anything's possible.
I would never rule anything out in the world. But it feels like J.J.
for sure to me. J.J.
to J.J. And hearing the comments of Vikings people today and this week seems to emphasize that even more.
Okay, last question here from AP Tone. Yeah, Rapsheet, let's stick with the quarterbacks.
It was reported that the Ravens are in early talks with an extension for Lamar Jackson. Does that have anything to do with Josh Allen's contract getting torn up and him getting a new deal? Or is it, I saw he's a big cap hit coming up this next season, or is it due to Lamar's earned this, obviously, and deserves an extension? I think it has more to do with the cap hit than with Josh Allen, but like Josh Allen getting it, now he got a great deal for him because basically what they did was they ripped up his own deal.
They didn't just extend it, tack on some money. They kind of started new, which you've never seen teams do.
But I think that sort of sets a little bit of the benchmark of where Lamar might be. So if Josh Allen comes in at 55, maybe Lamar is a little bit over that because generally the next guy is a little bit higher.
But I think, yeah, it has to do with if they're going to do something to lower his cap it, which I know they would like to do, you know, he's your guy. You have no doubt.
He deserves everything. A pay raise makes sense.
A new contract makes sense. And I could see it getting back.
Absolutely. Last question for me before we let you go.
Enjoy that Florida weather while you're wearing a Kentucky Derby suit again. Yikes.
The vote that can happen tomorrow. How many of these will pass? We got a graphic here of basically everything we know of being proposed.
How many of these end up passing? Tush push. Yes.
gonna vote for myself here tush push well yes over time touch back 30 let me just roll through here tush push yes right regular season ot yes touch back to the 35 yes defensive holding and illegal contact we all discussed we don't think that's going to get passed replay assist we think it will wild card seating we Wild card seeding, we don't think it will. Will these all be voted on tomorrow, and what are your thoughts on the outcome? Tush push is tomorrow, unless they say, you know what, let's reconsider it in May at Minnesota meetings, which might happen.
Regular season OT, that seems like a pretty good. We'll see.
I don't know if all, some of these might be today, but I think the bulk of them is is probably tomorrow and i think what you're looking at i mean replay assist like i feel pretty strongly that's like we've already seen a lot of that in play yeah um have we not like so i think that's probably an easy one wild card seating i'd be surprised about just because that seems like such a drastic change i think we'll get get a couple of these, but to me, the Tush Push band is probably generating the most conversation. Usually when there's a lot of conversation, they want to have more conversation, so maybe we do end up talking about this in May.
Okay. Sticking a pin in it, we'll circle back.
Not a bad idea. I guess the NFL has done that before.
We appreciate the hell out of you, brother. All right.
Thank you, guys, Pat. Enjoy those pints.
I will be... Obviously, I'm not doing any pint drinking down here, of course, but I'll be there in spirit.
I did all the pints yesterday that I could handle. I think I'm good on pints for a while.
I mean, it was a lot of pints. Those things get heavy, you know, and then the squirts come, obviously.
I've heard. Ladies and gentlemen, you've heard, obviously, in every experience.
Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rappaport. Hey, Rappaport.
It was a lot of pints, dude. Like Ireland? Ireland type? Not as many as Ireland.
Ireland was just such a sprint. That one went real fast.
This one started at 1 o'clock in the afternoon and then went until about 10 o'clock at night. And then it was like kind of just bouncing around place to place along the thames river which i guess has a lot of history uh i guess there's a lot of history and it was high tide yesterday so some water came up up onto the up on the sidewalk thing it was uh i had to represent though you know like i had to represent that's how i always feel in these situations like especially with the way the world is now without america's being viewed you know i always feel like i to represent.
That's how I always feel in these situations. Like, especially with the way the world is now, with how America's being viewed.
You

know, I always feel like I gotta represent. So I'll take your local one, okay? And I'll

take whatever you all are doing, I'll do it as well, and then we'll go to the next one.

You know, in good spirits, in good spirits.

Isn't Michael Cole great for that? I would imagine Michael Cole was a great American,

you know, partner when it comes to something like that, representing if you're boozing.

Michael Cole was boozing, yeah.

But Michael Cole is older.

So there was a time

where Grumpy Cole

came out.

We were sitting in his one beer garden and I

looked at Michael Cole and

we had both basically had enough.

Yeah, we had both basically

been through it.

And I looked over at Cole and he did like this because he had some pouches in or whatever.

And he did this spit into the rocks and he still had a little bit on his lip.

And he did the whole who cares.

And I was like, we've probably done enough here.

We've probably done enough here.

Then we tried to drive back to where we were staying.

And, you know, they got round the boots.

I don't watch and the people driving by you you forget that the passenger is actually on the left side driver's on the right so it's like kind of weird like you see like a 12 year old sitting in the passenger seat that's like is that person driving and then you know comes up and then it's on the other side so but where we were driving to was like 10 15 minute drive but they shut down two of these roundabouts and i'll tell you what you shut down two roundabouts you're not getting about anywhere and uh we had to walk that thing so we did like a two mile hike last night at the end of this whole thing so it was a good time everything's Everything's been great. I really enjoyed it.
The weather was nice. The people were nice.
The pints were good. Some better than others, certainly.
But, yeah, it's been a lot of fun. And tonight's show should be, well, I guess today's show for you guys back stateside, should be absolutely absurd.
Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a man who's a national champion as a hooper for Duke. Guess what he's doing now, AJ? I think he's on the path to another one, Pat.
Isn't he? As a coach at his alma mater. There's only been three times in the history of college hoops where somebody's won a national championship and then guided their team back to at least a final four as the head coach.
Ladies and gentlemen, out of Duke, White Mike, Coach John Shire. Hey, Coach.
How are you? I'm doing great. Well, I feel like I've arrived at McAfee Show with all you guys.
I feel like I've arrived, so thank you. You're in the Final Four.
Okay, you have arrived. Okay, let's just make sure that is understood.
Not on here has anything to do with that. But congrats, Coach.
Obviously, we just read off your accolades. And before we get to the team, and I'm sure the boys will have some, you know, college hoops question and this team question.
For me, I just want to go back to the white Mike story. This is how I was introduced to you.
Okay, I just want to let you know that. I was introduced to your greatness via a story being told about how, yeah, John will come down into Chicago, and there will be people that will be walking to go watch this dude, white Mike.
And then obviously you had some time in you get injured everything goes and you become a coach but growing up you were the guy is um national champion at duke whenever you think about that perspective how much has that helped you in either recruiting or in coaching or how do you how much you lean on being that dude that you were for so long now in your coaching world coach well you know what pet But I the biggest thing for me is you know i had to get outside my environment growing up and so anywhere there was a game in chicago uh i don't care where it was uh i would go and you know you i think the biggest pride i found was having to find your own footing you know for me it was just he is showing my game and so i'll go everywhere and play uh there's nice of pat bev to to give me that love and uh to share those stories i don't know if they called me white mike uh but i think they did have respect for the way i played and so for me the fact that i coach guys from all over the world uh play with different guys from everywhere i think that's just helped me understand different perspectives and connect with different people. Well, I think they did call you white Mike.
And I think that type of hype is something that you have to have a lot of confidence to have being kind of said about you. And speaking of confidence, following in coach K's foot, like that is putting on those boots at that school.
What I mean, it's Krzyzewskiville outside. I think his office is there it's like everything is coach k's usa coach he's the so whoever was going to come in

there afterwards had to be a very confident individual feels like you've been able to do it

but also in your own way do you feel that way do you think your team is vastly different than maybe

a coach k team yeah well i think i just had to accept right away the comparisons are going to

be there but really come to terms with i didn't have to come to terms. I knew right away I'm not Coach K.
Nobody else is. And so I found just great confidence in who I am as a person.
Understand you're not going to bat a thousand. I wish you were, but there's decisions you can make along the way that aren't perfect.
And to be able to keep that confidence, to be able to be authentic to who you are, to me, is the most important thing. And so I think for our players, they understand I'm not trying to be anybody different.
I am who I am. And I think there's a lot of great things to it.
I'll tell you this, though. I think we're playing modern way, you know, modern basketball, the way we share it, the way we, you know, play with pace and how versatile our team is, I think is really the way the game should be played and just a modern way of playing right now.
Coach, can you describe what it's like from the start of the tournament until now? Obviously, Final Four, we all know what's on the line, but you have these young guys that are unbelievable superstars, but ultimately untested when it comes to, you know, the brightest lights, the big stage, you know, like as a player and a coach, how does every single round, like, does it amp up the intensity and how do you find a way to keep your team kind of focused and dialed and not make too big of a deal of the whole situation? I think for me, AJ, the biggest thing for our guys, you know, the fact is we play five freshmen, you know, in our rotation and all five of them in high school, they could have probably played at 50, 60% and still

been by far the best player. And so from day one, for me, it's been about setting an expectation

of understanding what the standard is, but then also preparing to be at your best when your best

is required. And that's what the tournament is all about.
It's not best out of five. It's not best out of seven.
You get one game. And so the fact that we were able to bring in really competitive dudes who play the right way and let you coach them, I think we've been able to create an environment on our team where they're not afraid of the moment.
They're not afraid of the spotlight. And they've set a standard for themselves with how hard they play all the time.
And that's what I hope you guys see when you watch us, you know, how together we are. But most importantly, how hard we play.
And I think for a young group to have that is a big-time thing. Here's a Hembo stat for you, Coach, that you probably already know or somebody on your staff has told you.
Duke's freshmen have played 434 minutes in the NCAA tournament. The other three final four teams have combined 160 minutes by their freshmen, 163 minutes by their freshmen.
But we're at the end of the year, obviously, so you feel as if your team's a bit battle-tested. You guys haven't lost since February 8th.
Okay, I don't want to jinx anything, but hey, you've got to win a bunch of games in the tournament to win a national championship anyway. So that just is going to have to be how it is.
Talk about that guy right there. Okay, obviously we knew the main event coming out of high school because we have a guy from Boston who's been hyping him up for a while.
We have Duke fans obviously scattered throughout the entire show. AJ, growing up, was a Duke fan.
D-Bone, one of our graphics guys, a massive Duke fan. So I think there's a lot of people that have paid attention to Duke throughout the years.
Getting Cooper flag was obviously a massive talking point. Has he lived up to everything you thought you were getting in Cooper flag? And every piece that I see about him, the more I like, this dude could be in high school right now still, allegedly.
Is that accurate? That's accurate. I mean, look, we have two guys that really are a year below the class that they're in.
Cooper and then Kaman Malawach. You know, Kaman should be in high school as well, you know, our starting center.
And so, you know, look, both those guys, but you asked about Cooper, you would love him even more if you saw him every day, Pat. You know, the way he goes about his business, he knows no other way than to compete like crazy.
You know, he's had moments where he hasn't played as well in practice and got knocked back. And the best part is he takes full responsibility.
Like, there's no fighting it. Like, he'll come to me after some practice and say, man, I suck today.
I'm going to be better for you tomorrow, coach. And first of all, he didn't suck that day.
That's the first thing. But the fact that he thinks that and comes back with such a killer instinct all the time, he's one of one in that regard and so competitive.
And then the other thing is he has a unique ability in game to understand what's required to win.

In some games, it's blocking shots.

Other games, it's leading us in assists.

Other games, it's getting 30 or 40 points.

It's just a field that I don't think you can teach.

He's fun to watch.

And he'll throw hoops, too, all over the place.

It's like his handle's absurd.

His shot's insane.

He's able to go underneath.

He'll bang.

And the fact that you've got two high schoolers leading your team to the Final Four, congratulations. Congratulations.
Thank you. Unbelievable.
White Mike and Coach, put a whistle around White Mike's neck. You think you got to figure it out? D-Bud has a question for you, John.
Yeah, John, big UConn guy here, UConn alumni. We went through the last couple tournaments, last tournament, pretty dominant.
So we didn't have pretty, you know, a lot of close calls. You guys haven haven't had many close calls are you the one kind of close game with Arizona does that worry you at all going into this Houston matchup and what are the biggest I guess challenges facing this Houston team well I think you know first of all when you talk about close games I think it shows a great killer instinct when you know during the game there's going to be different inflection points where it can either be, you know, you think about Arizona.
It was, you know, a seven, eight point game. Alabama, the same thing with about an eight minute, eight point game with, you know, eight, seven, eight minutes to go to be able to know in those moments to keep your foot on the gas and get separation.
I think that's a skill. And our team has had that this year.
Hopefully we can do that. But we're fully expecting against Houston.
It's going to be a possession by possession kind of game. My first year coaching, you know, we get one scrimmage to go against anybody.
I wanted to scrimmage Houston. And the reason I wanted to scrimmage Houston in year one, I wanted our guys to understand the level of physicality, you know, a team like them would play against and the togetherness and the job that Calvin Sampson does.
He's as good as any coach in the country, period. So the respect we have for them is off the charts.
We know it's going to be a slower paced game. We know it's going to be a physical game, still diving in them some.
But look, it's their... If you look at their analytics, statistically, they're as good as any team in the last 10 years of college basketball.
They're right there with anybody. So we're excited.
We know it's going to be a big-time challenge and the job they do on defense is off the charts. You talk about Coach Sampson there.
Obviously, he's been around. We've seen Houston go on many runs.
The last school called him Kevin, I think, and then their social team said his name's Kelvin, and the L is actually the same one he just handed you. So they got a little swag down there, a little bit of sauce in this entire thing.
ESPN Research pulled this up, John, just to make you feel young or good. Sampson and Shire will be on opposing benches in the semifinal.
When Sampson began his first season as a D1 head coach in 1987 at Washington State,

Shire was four months old.

So he's got a little experience.

He's got a little experience

on you, but you know, quite a lot of experience.

Yeah, exactly.

Boston Connor has a question for you, Coach.

Yeah, Coach, you got that Duke emblem across

your chest and it says the brotherhood above it.

What does that kind of mean

playing basketball for

Duke, all the great players that have

Thank you. coach you got that you know duke emblem across your chest and it says the brotherhood above it you know what does that kind of mean when you know playing basketball for duke all the great players that have played there including yourself and will you kind of lean in to the brotherhood as you get ready for the final four will you reach out to coach k will you kind of talk to some of the guys that have already been through it or can you just pull from your own experiences enough no no i i lean into all that and you know look i think when you think about the brotherhood and obviously coach k is a huge part of that i already talked to coach k first and foremost you know i mean he's had he's only had 13 attempts at you know in a final four 13 experiences besides that he doesn't know much about being in this environment at all uh but for me, I'm lucky, you know, as a coach to still have my coach.
You know, so the fact is we talk all the time and I lean on him for a lot. But you think about, you know, the Grand Hills of the world and the Shane Battiers and, you know, Adam Silver, the commissioner of the NBA is a Duke grad.
I mean, the brotherhood in general to me is the connectivity in the sports world,

but especially in basketball is off the charts.

I think the thing that sets us apart though,

it doesn't matter if you're here for one year

or two, three, or four,

the amount of text that I got from four players

when we went to the final four,

the text throughout the year

of just being so invested in what's happening to me is off the charts. I'm not going to say it's better than anywhere.
I can't compare it to anywhere else. This is all I know.
But the passion to me is incredible that I feel from our former guys. Seems like two young Duke guys are taking over the basketball coaching ranks.
You and J.J. Redick, obviously massive talking points.
It's awesome to hear you still talk to Coach K because from the way LeBron talks, J.J. is a young Coach K in there as well.
So happy to see the Krzyzewski pipeline will continue to crush. Last question before we have a heart out.
We can't thank you enough for joining us here, Coach. All focus right now on Houston.
Will you also pay attention to the other teams now? Are we watching film or is this everything on one game at a time now,

as opposed to what it was beginning of the tournament?

I'll let our staff take care of that.

For me, it's 100% Houston.

Just like it's been every step of the way, AJ, to your question.

It's been what's next, finishing what's right in front of us,

and then going from there.

All right.

Well, Coach, good luck.

We can't thank you enough for joining us, man.

Thank you, fellas. Appreciate you guys.
You're the best, ladies and gentlemen, Coach John Schein. I'm about, you know, I appreciate him coming in and saying, oh, now I've made it.
You know, I'm on this show. I do.
I do appreciate that because the guy's in the Final Four. He's a young lad.
He had to take over for Coach K at a Duke, you know, team in aj you watched growing up obviously d bone was in illinois you were in ohio there's people in pennsylvania the duke brand was the duke brand because their basketball team and he let he's are rattling off some of the x's you can start continue those names uh on and on and on it's like it is a brand there is an expectation so he gets dropped in just rolls. You know, like UNC, very different situations.
You're right. You know, what's going on there.
People take it for granted. You talk about some of the – go ahead.
No, people take that for granted. It's like taking over for Nick Saban, taking over for Bill Belichick in the NFL.
Bingo. People take it for granted that you can just keep that thing rolling, and you're right.
North Carolina is proof. It's a lot harder than it looks.
Yeah, you have to do it your own way. Like, inevitably, you're going to have to do it your own way because you're the one that's gonna have to do it every single day and if you don't you can get left behind you can get exposed you can go from being a tier one blue chipper to mid-level just hoping to have a good year i mean that happens and i think obviously they have great nil i would assume duke basketball has great nil uh i would assume they have you have a leg up on a lot of schools because they are Duke.
It is the brotherhood of Duke that he is pitching, which I think is a good idea. Anytime you get a transition phase, some people like to forget about the past as opposed to embracing the traditions.
So him being like the brotherhood, the brotherhood, this is all of us here at Duke. And him being a Duke guy to begin with, I think it's been done beautifully, Ty Schmidt.
Legitimately, I think they've done it absolutely perfectly over there. Yeah, without a doubt.
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Sports! This is what's up. Pat, we see lights and laser shows and everything going on back there.
How's everything in the O2 arena right now? It's fantastic. At some point, I'm going to have to get up and leave because I'm currently sitting in the audience, and I believe they're going to be opening the doors relatively soon.
So if I do that, just know that I'll FaceTime in from backstage.

But with that being said, all roads have led to the O2.

There's been a three-week European tour of the WWE here on this glorious road to the WrestleMania.

And tonight, for the second show in a row, London will cap off everything,

and it's going to be electrifying tonight.

I believe there's somebody you can't see, you know, an invisible person that's going to be here. I believe there's some other magic in store, and I'll be on a microphone alongside Michael Cole.
It'll be a dream come true. As you see, Darius J.
Butler there behind Lodo Stanley Cup, as he is a Florida Panther fan. A..
AJ Hawk traveled in from Ohio to stand at that particular desk

right there. Can't thank both you boys enough.

And then on the other side, you got the toxic table

at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt.

One half of the hammer.

Cowboys

AP Tone is there. And we have some

breaking news.

Ladies and gentlemen,

Wednesday, April 9th,

will be a big night in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. And it's going to be awesome.
The show is coming together perfectly. The conversations that I've been able to have with people who want to not only make the show better, but really want to commit to that evening becoming one of the greatest nights in the history of entertainment.
It is sold out in 92 minutes. We all remember that story.
And it was really cool to experience that as a whole. And with the reaction that there was, I thought to myself, there has to be more tickets.
There has to be more tickets that we can find. And obviously we had held a portion of tickets because of where we're going to set cameras up and for the view of the stage and for the view of everything.

You know, can't have people sitting directly behind cameras.

Well, today we just got done with a meeting, myself and the folks here at the WWE that are going to be piecing this entire thing together.

And it turns out we opened up some tickets.

And I believe with the moving of one thing to the next and moving this over here, do we need this particular view for one thing? I don't think so. We could probably open up that section, right? Don't you think? Yeah, we probably could.
1,750 tickets will be going on sale on Wednesday at noon. Wow.
Okay. Wednesday at noon, we were able to open up 1,750 tickets.
Now, there was a worry that maybe these wouldn't be able to be in the giveaway zones. There was a worry that maybe they'd have an obstructed view.
There was a worry that maybe these seats would just have to be covered by some tarps because of the way the presentation of the show was going to go. But instead, the Wizards here at the WWE were able to cook up some magic, some potion, and were able to open up 1,750 tickets.
They'll go on sale at the same price that the other tickets were on sale for the first time. So nobody's getting a better deal because they bought it late.
If you bought it early, obviously, you will be paying the same. You won't have to pay more than the people that got it later.
So Wednesday at noon, one week before, big night, 1,750 tickets will go up for sale. And it's exciting.
I'm very, very pumped up about it. As soon as I found out about it, literally an hour before we went live, I was like, bro, got to tell people, got to make this announcement.
I want to sell them as soon as possible because obviously the show is next Wednesday already, AJ, next Wednesday. And I'm going to give away a bunch of money.
I'm going to have some spectacular talent in the building, and hopefully we have a Wednesday night that's talked about forever, Hawk and I know you'll be a part of the show but just know that there's a chance 1750 more people could be coming to your party AJ Hawk yeah I think that's amazing I'm sure people will jump on that as soon as they go on sale Wednesday at noon Eastern as I was watching actually D-Bone make this graphic when I showed up earlier today it was it was cool to how the sausage is made, as they say. It's really cool to see.
Yeah, D-Bone always does, you know, D-Bone stuff. Stuff.
D-Bone trying to figure out what matters on the graphic and what doesn't matter on the graphic is always a fun game. It's always a fun game.
It's like, hey, yeah, when are they on sale, D-Bone? Big part of it. What is the show? Big part of the story here.
How many of the tickets? Big part of the story here. And D-Bone gets creative.
You know, he's an artist. He does what he's got to do.
But in the end, he makes magic. And that's what we're hoping.
It's Wednesday, April 9th. Nothing but magic.
Few-hour show. Two hours, two and a half hours, maybe three, depending upon how it all rolls.
Show will start at 8 o'clock local. I think it will will be over by 10.
There will be 10.30, maybe 11. There's a chance you go to work the next day.
You Yenzers, you fine, Yenzers. Or if you want to take Thursday off, I believe it's the first day of the Masters Golf Tournament down there in Augusta.
So, you know, everything's pointing up. D.
Butch, you're obviously going to be a part of that particular program. Maybe 1,750 more people are going to come join the evening.
I cannot wait. I know a few of my friends will definitely already be in the building.
Hopefully this opens up some space for more. But it's going to be crazy.
It's crazy that it's already here, pretty much just around the corner. And you saying that everything is going perfectly has me feeling great.
A little worrisome. No, no, no.
I've been talking about this program for a few years, this show, that I want to kind of piece together. And a variety show of sorts.
You know, there hasn't been one in a long, long time. A variety show.
Dean Martin had one way back in the day. I guess there's been a few others.
I think award shows were supposed to become the variety shows. But for one reason or another, that didn't really happen.
So I'm hoping for a variety show that people will hopefully want more of. I think it will be a good display of people just coming together to put on a show.
Just put on a show. Give away some money.
We're going to be streaming live on YouTube, X, and TikTok Live. So if you're not one of the 1,750 people that are able to get some of the tickets here on Wednesday that have just been opened up literally an hour ago, we figured out more space to get more people in there.

You'll be able to watch along at home.

It's going to be a blast. Let's go to the

Talks table at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt.

Con man, big story in the sports

world this weekend was what?

I mean, I would say the Final Four. The 4-1

seeds kind of coming together, or rather

the selection of

the Final Four being kind of finite

now. We got all 1 seeds, Duke Houston, then Auburnurn and Florida.
And I don't know if we have it. I doubt we do.
There was the kind of odds of when the team was going to win and who was going to win. Basically all four of the games were blowouts.
Are people pissed, Conman? Sorry to cut you off. Are people upset about all the ones making it? I think so because everyone loves a Cinderella, but also I think it's more so like especially in the Elite Eight.
It's like, okay, well, at least it's one versus two, one versus three. We're going to get good games.
None of the games are that good. Houston killed Tennessee yesterday.
Michigan State kind of made it close, but not really yesterday as well. Florida and Texas Tech, that was the closest one, And Florida had an unbelievable finish.
And that was great. But the games themselves haven't been that good for the 1C teams.
That kind of stunk. But, you know, the final, what, three games should be incredible, even though Duke is clearly the heavy favorite.
I don't know if we did talk about it, but O's the Mentalist has done it again, folks, on March 20th, and I believe we have the video, but on March 20th, he put together basically his final four and also a massive upset from the entire thing, and he revealed it yesterday. I said, before we started, March 20th, when he steals at 115, our bracket buster will be Arkansasansas beating st john's a two gets taken bombed on by a 10.
i said florida will beat texas tech number one duke will beat alabama today watch houston will beat tennessee auburn will beat msu four number one seeds make it for the first time since 2008 in 17 years mark my word wow second time in tournament history. This was sealed at the start of the tournament.

That's crazy.

Every team in the Elite Eight.

Did you get a notary on that?

That's the same envelope.

And the future is here.

I didn't see a stand.

Remember this moment.

We won through the bottle.

We can't hold it.

You guys have questions?

Well, that's the thing.

Like, if you're going to do something like this, and maybe they did do it, they need to show when he closed it or whatever.

At least a picture from March 20th, right? When he did it. It was notarized.
It was notarized. It was before the last two games were played, though, right? Was it really notarized? Yeah.
Oh, okay. I mean, I wasn't accusing Oz of cheating us.
It sounded like you were. But the first thing I thought of when I see him do this, why doesn't he monetize this in a gambling way? Wouldn't someone come to him and say, hey, let's figure this thing out? How do you know he didn't? I know.
That's what I'm wondering. Yeah, I don't know.
I would assume he can make tons of money if there's some people. I assume he's not allowed.
He could say, oh, it's not ethical or whatever, but what do you mean? It's not illegal. None of the sports books are going to let him gamble.
Not him, but I'm saying people would come to him. Because if you were to, like in the world thinking of gambling, if you were to do like a parlay of just the Elite Eight matchups.
Oh, yeah. I mean, you could put like $100 down and probably win like $100,000.
Yeah, like when he was making that thing March 20th. What if one of a big-time whale that can change lines gets in on that? Maybe not that much money because it is one seeds versus two seeds.
No, but still, I mean, it hasn't happened in 17 years. The odds would still be pretty.
Yeah. Damn.
And plus people like we were talking about earlier in the games, people being upset or whatever, like Ken Palm, who is like the analytics just guru of all gurus for college basketball, literally in his ranking had the the number one seeds like as the four of the top 10 teams i believe in the last 20 years or whatever or all time maybe uh as four of the best teams of all time so it's not surprising that they made it here it's also not surprising that the games haven't been that close because like i said based off the analytics these are four of the best teams that have ever played basketball in college of all time. But this is what people are saying.
And now we're going together. It's a good thing.
I don't think people should be bitching about this. It is a good thing, but isn't the argument, or at least like the old man standing on my lawn argument, that we're not going to see any Cinderella stories anymore? Only these big schools are going to get in every year.
But a lot of times when that happens, like the Cinderella story after the Elite Page or whatever, those teams get their asses kicked in the Final Four because you're playing against the two favorites to win the national championship. So hopefully we will get some more competitive games.
Like Connor said, all these games this past weekend, with the exception of Texas Tech and Florida, kind of stunk. So hopefully these Final Four games are a little bit closer.
but the Cinderella's are fun early, but I don't really care about seeing a 13 seed playing Duke and getting beat by 40 in Final Four. I think the old man argument now is like, hey, they're paying for their championships.
The NIL thing is now what the old man... You still got to make the plays, though.
Exactly. That's the thing.
You still got to make the shots. Like, I saw some people were mad about Auburn's starting five because they're all old as hell.
And I saw people upset about that. And then I saw another thing.
It was earlier. I think it was before the weekend started on Thursday where it kind of showed where all of the team's players started in college and then where they are now.
The FAU team that was kind of one of the last Cinderella's to go all the way to the Final Four. They were like a nine seed.
Three of their five starters were on different teams that were then in the Sweet 16. So it's one of those things.
I believe Florida, one of their guards is from FAU from their Cinderella run. So I think like Iona, like the old man yelling at the, you know, no Cinderella's, it's turned into now.
Like, hey, that's just hired mercenaries now to go get one-year deals and go play for a school. Yeah, they're playing for money, and they got no loyalty because they're leaving their school.
Why would you have any loyalty? Hey, we'll give you 1.8, come over here, and you're going to a great team with a great opportunity. How can you blame a player? It's better for your life.
Like, if you think that the kid who is now playing in the Final Four, again, for Florida, the point guard, would have been, you know, just the same as, you know, how he would have been if he stayed at FAU. Like, he's trying to make his life better, not just, you know, be a guy that was on a Cinderella team.
It's like, hey, now I'm playing on one of the top eight teams in the history of college basketball. That matters for the kid's future, let alone his immediate happiness winning and playing good basketball.
And they try to bitch about student-athlete. He's still going to graduate from Florida with a degree.
So it's like, if you can get a bag and then also get a degree with it, like there really is no, you know, there's no reason to get pissed off about it. Yeah, well, I mean, and Walter Clayton, who Florida's point guard or whatever, who came over from Iona, like the exposure that he's getting because of this and the two threes that he hit at the end of this game and then the three that he hit at the end of the sweet 16 game, like his his drafts, he's making money every single one of these shots because down the stretch, he's just been ice cold and hasn't missed.
Like, him making all these shots, he's not making these at Iona. Like, he is making them at Iona, but it's not seen as much, and his draft stock is just skyrocketing.
Comparing him to Steph. Yeah.
So, J. Walker, yeah, comparing him to Steph.
Basically, obviously,, Steph will be the peak and all-time great at what he does, but those type of shots kind of looks like Steph. Remember, Steph got introduced to the world.
March Madness, Davidson, mid-major. It kind of sucks that you won't have those stories, but it is just the nature of the business, even on the women's side.
You know, Van Liff, she's on her third team. And, you know, third team she's been to at least the Elite Eight.
So you'll see this more and more on both sides of the college landscape when it comes to basketball, you know, fortunately or unfortunately, depending on how you look at it. I think we'll still get them here and there too, but we won't ever get, like, another Butler where it's like you have a mid-major that, like, goes to two Final Fours in a there are still teams that can go deep but then after they have a deep run in the tournament all those guys are going to get plucked by high majors and and go elsewhere so like i think there's still a chance that we're going to get a couple of these cinderellas like we saw it happen this year with with drake you know like they they were an 11th seed they won in the first round but then immediately their coach leaves and all their players leave like that that's what's going to happen.
I believe Pat may be joining us from the bowels of the OT Arena. Here he is.
What's up, Pat? Hi, Adz. How are you doing? It is great to be back with you here.
I literally came through a secret door to get back here where I'm at. It's a great room.
It's very peaceful. Back to your point, I don't know if you guys have these stats.
Embo sent these over. Should the starting lineups remain the

same? Is this a stat you guys have already talked about?

No.

Okay, should the starting lineups remain the same?

Eight of ten starters in

Florida Auburn will have started their careers

at different schools. The only

ones that didn't are Alex Condon

at Florida and Dylan Cardwell

at Auburn. Auburn

starts five seniors. Their seniors have played 677 minutes in the NCAA tournament, most by any team ever entering the Final Four.
So we still have some seniors, but you're right. If you're good at all or showcase any talent at any school, there's a chance you're going to get plucked the hell out of there.
I mean, that is just the real world nowadays. And hopefully, you know, schools like West Virginia are the ones doing the plucking, but it feels like we're potentially a part of the problem.
It was like we're going to be the ones getting plucked, you know, after DeVries leaves, after not even making the NIT. And you talked about McCollum and all his guys leaving.
It's like it's a fascinating, it's a very uh state for college basketball because i don't know why cinderella's wouldn't exist i just don't think cinderella's would exist for multiple years you know like if a cinderella shows up that shoe that she was wearing until midnight that shit's getting stolen by another school immediately yeah i mean that's just like oh yeah you had a good little audition there in march uh now guess what you're doing you're coming to our school that's kind of how i see it going but maybe not maybe all the good talent's gonna end up at a high-end high school anyways yeah because with those cinderella at least from what i can remember watching the game it's like those guys typically they're going to run with like their best players are like maybe juniors or sophomores. Like, the big, like, the Dukes of the world, these big time.
These guys come in, the Derrick Queens, they come in and hit the ground running. Like, these Cinderella teams, these smaller schools, mid-majors, it usually takes their guys a little bit longer to develop.
And then, like you said, as soon as they pop onto the national scene, they're going. For example, football, even football.
You know, I have a good year at UConn. You know know took my sophomore year I'm probably going to UM like that so the Cinderella those kind of stories that's kind of why I see it going away and fading away and March Madness when we all become college football other basketball fans it kind of sucks that those stories probably will be going away but yeah this money plucking away you can't you can't blame the kids for going and chasing uh green pastures, but that Jeff Goodman tweet that popped up there while we were talking, that was insane.
That number of players that entered the portal in the last, what did you say, today? 1,700 or whatever it was. 1,200, sorry.
1,359 D1 men's basketball players entered the portal since it opened past Monday. There's only, what, max 15 players, usually 12 on a team? Yeah.
Wow team. Yeah Yeah, and that happened in football remember that happened in football a little bit at the beginning people are like Hey, you're asked to go into the portal.
You're asking us stay in the you know, that is Not everybody has opportunity But you talk about popping off on the national scene a little bit and then hitting this portal and then hopefully get somewhere That's why teams aren't doing spring games anymore.

Teams are scared to do spring games.

They're scared to do spring games because if anybody does great in a spring game,

they have to be a second string or third stringer.

They're gone by the time fall comes around.

I mean, it's over.

It's like I obviously have a chance to chat with more coaches now that we've been in the college football world here for the last few years.

And it's like Rich Rodriguez is trying to figure out what the hell to do.

Matt Rule is trying to figure out what to do.

All right. have a chance to chat with more coaches now that we've been in the college football world here for the last few years.
And it's like, Rich Rodriguez is trying to figure out what the hell to do. Matt Rule's trying to figure out what to do.
All these schools are like, why in the fuck would we have a spring game where we're declaring a first string, second string, third string, fourth string? So now our third stringer knows he's not a starter right now, but he might be a starter in the fall, but right now he isn't. So he might be like, I'm gonna play here.
I'll go somewhere else And then if you do well in the spring game, it's like every other place is like who's that guy? It's uh, it is I think spring games Celebration or something they're trying to figure out what exactly they're doing, but they're not they're not gonna be playing football against each other It sounds like coach prime try Sorry, go ahead. No D bucks what you're saying there is 100% accurate coach prime once joint practices But if those are gonna be on TV and I guess coach prime has a lot of confidence in his guys not leaving and congrats to him getting that new Extension fifty four million dollars I mean that is Can remember just a few years ago Colorado didn't even know if they were going to be able to pay his original contract they said we don't have enough money to pay his current 30 million dollar contract we assume he'll be able to make that happen which he did he absolutely did and created a brand and a name but it's like anything you're doing on tv with any of these guys there's a chance that you're just showcasing them to somebody else who might have more money.

And it's like, how much of that game do you want to dance with?

How much of that?

And that's why you're seeing all these teams.

They're doing showcases for the fans because they want the fans to be around and, you know, we'll do some gimmick shit. But like playing football, declaring a first stringer, second stringer and a third stringer.

It's like, no way.

No way.

And now the transfer portal window in basketball has to change. That's stupid, and it's right in the middle of the tournament, I don't know how that even becomes a decision, AJ, I don't even know how that's made that way, you know, because we experienced in the fall, with the college football playoff, that there was a transfer window, and guys were getting in it, but then we were like, we'll just move it till after, and they're like, spring semester, they have to enroll, yada have to enroll yada yada yada it's like well how come football's spring windows in april something late mid-april late april and your guys this has to be in march that's aren't they both enrolling for the same school that feels stupid by itself aj yeah are they are they trying to say we have to make it now to to protect or give guys that aren't in the ncaa tournament or aren't making deep runs in the tournament a chance to get in the portal

and get to another team?

Like, what's the reason?

I have no idea.

I have no idea.

There's not decisions made.

Speaking of decisions being made, what was Rapp being so auspicious about

whenever he was talking about those votes?

What was he like?

Did you hear him?

What do you mean exactly?

I don't know if I said the word right there.

Is that what word? Auspicious? Yeah. Yep.
Yeah. I think that what it means is like, he was like some of these votes, maybe tomorrow, maybe today.
What is the day? I think he just didn't know. Really? You think he didn't know?

Okay, I didn't know if all these were actually getting voted on or if they're just being discussed.

Wasn't it last year where it was kind of up in the air

when they were voting on some stuff?

Like sometimes if it was like, hey, we're close on a certain thing

and we might have a certain amount of votes,

they were like, why don't we just completely vote for this tomorrow

to try and kind of swing like the Frank Underwood type thing. So they can choose when they make the votes? Yeah, that's what I thought if I remembered it correctly that when we were down there, there was kind of some sort of like toss up of when the actual votes were.
Goodell has, I can't remember what it was they voted on last year. It might have been the kickoff rule or whatever, but they had the meeting and they could tell like maybe they were two or three votes short.
And then, you know. So he didn't have the vote.
Goodell had to go that night to have some cocktails. This is politics.
The lobbying. Yeah brother, there's real lobbying.
Remember, this new dynamic kickoff that we currently have is strictly because I don't know if it was Roger Goodell but somebody in the NFL was like like, hey, you're going to have no more kickoff anymore, so figure the hell out. Literally, that was the conversation around it all.
And then they get to this new dynamic kickoff, and some teams are like, we're not doing this. Two lines of scrimmage saying yada, yada, yada, we're not doing that.
And they're like, well, it's either that or it's nothing at all. And then they're talking at night, shaking hands votes.
You know, Coach Riz had to go earn votes for this kickoff whenever he was the – now he's with the Broncos. He was – then at the time with the Saints, it's like there's a lot of working going on down at these league meetings.
And it's a lot of it's like, hey, I'm better for the game. I'm saving the game.
This is better for the game. But that tush-bush thing, it feels like it's over.
It does and maybe they'll delay till may to do that but it feels like i don't know more people coming out against this i think the i think they don't really have any any data to back it up whatever but saying the potential injury risk from this play but so but defenders correct me pat am i if i'm a linebacker i can push my d lineman right on this play i. Yeah, is it just a special teams play you're not allowed to? I don't know.
Yeah, that's what I'm wondering. If I'm a defender, I should be able to push my D lineman.
If you can push your quarterback, obviously, in this play. I understand the extra point and field goal is different, but you're right.
This feels like it is going to get taken away. I don't think it should.
I don't know. I mean, just figure it out.
Find a way to stop it to stop it figure a way out to run it on offense change just to one guy being able to push like i know because that's what some of the teams like i know that's what the packers did with jordan love that's what you know josh allen and the bills do like they could easily keep it around or if they just say you know you have to have some sort of i don't know like a a declaration that you can't run or you can't throw the ball.

Because that's another thing with the tush push is like, hey, they might fake it. If it's something like that, I don't know.
But I would rather see it stay in the game than just completely ban it. It's innovation.
I was talking to, there's a lot of Eagles fans that work for the WWE. week.
So this

morning when I get to the arena here

and I'm sitting down all of them just right on over and it tells trying to screw Philadelphia Eagles and I said what's that you guys are Super Bowl champs what do you mean you know banning a tush-push because we're better than everybody is that what we're banning to it I thought football supposed to be tough i thought you guys are supposed to be tough that's how these eagles fans literally yeah great for it they have a point yeah this is just in the wrestling world i i assume in the rest of the world as well eagles fans are feeling the same way so so we're tougher than you and you guys want to stop that okay okay and then you know the your thought about the the of potential injury that's a hilarious argument yeah but when you watch it you can see their heads are down we could have a neck injury yeah why don't you watch any play that ever happens ever in the nfl and there's potential injury risk everywhere you look it doesn't matter i think another big topic of of conversation here is they're paying Jalen hurts 50 million a year 51 I think Jalen hurts could easily be a quarterback that says I'm not doing this Yeah, no way like there's a lot of very rich quarterbacks I would never do this never allow this to happen because I mean they're they're potentially setting themselves up to literally get anti-ant like that is The chance like quarterbacks thinks always gonna be tough on the quarterback

But let alone whenever there's 600 pounds of pressure being pushed off your ass cheeks while everybody else is doing the opposite like

Jalen Hurts saying I'm cool with it. I'm cool with it now granted their offensive line also saying they're cool with it is a whole thing

But like I think that's something that not every quarterbacks are willing to be cool with either

You know, yeah, not you know, not every quarterback is willing to be cool with either, you know? Yeah, not every quarterback is squatting 900 pounds. And when Jalen Hurts retire, he'll probably have 90 rushing touchdowns to go on his resume.
And obviously it helps the team win, too. Obviously, Jalen Hurts.
How do you stop it, D-Butt? How do I stop it? We've seen enough to – you can't. It's one of those things you just can't stop with the Eagles.
And that's their argument okay We're everybody has the same rules like Jalen Hurts isn't the only big strong quarterback in the league This isn't the only big physical offensive line in the league. Everyone has the same rules the Buffalo Bills They were great at it with Josh Allen for most of the season I think the Chiefs were part of the only team that consistently How do the bills do? Because there was people calling like just regular quarterback sneaks push pushes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I think there was people I think there was people confused about which push was being pushed Like I think people thought like offense alignments pushes getting pushed by the quarterback is a push push It's like no the push that's being pushed that's currently being talked about is the quarterbacks push

Getting pushed by a couple different hands of guys that have big pushes

So then it's a big old push on one push that's going into other pushes

I think that is something that also is kind of hard to like a regular quarterback sneak is not a push push. No, you know

Josh left go they did it. Yeah, they did it with one guy.
Josh did it. And they usually try to find, like, one of the guards.
They typically go over the guards. Like, Hurts can go over a guard, but a lot of times he was going right over that center.
I feel like Josh Allen goes over a guard more. And like you can see right here, it's usually one guy pushing him.
But that's a big, strong son of a bitch at quarterback. I think it definitely starts there.
And to your point, some quarterbacks, Mahomes hasn't done a quarterback sneak in what, like two, three years now? So certain quarterbacks who just aren't going to do it at all, Tom Brady, he was the best quarterback sneaker of his generation, of multiple generations that he played. So he was innovative and found a way to just once he saw the gap and got up, he can do it for two, three yards at times.
So it's going to be interesting to see how this really unfolds. But I think the Eagles fans and the Eagles team, more importantly, has an argument where it shouldn't be banned.
Well, Brady, too. Like the thing, the reason Brady was so good at it was that they were under center every single play.
Like the Eagles and, you know, the Bills, they're not under center every single play so there isn't that like element of surprise like on a on a fourth and one i don't think it was guaranteed that brady was gonna do a qb sneak but if it was there he would use the gap open yeah like i'm in there with the eagles it's a guarantee on fourth and one that they're doing this you know and i think that's why brady was so good at it and when it comes to just stopping it in general, the only guy that's consistently been able to do it is Vita Vea. And so you would wonder if that 464-pound guy from Florida legitimately becomes a higher pick because of the fact that so many teams are doing push-pushes now that a guy like that will be able to stop it.
That'd be crazy. Especially if this ends up surviving this rule change thing here, more people are going to want to be able to figure out how to do it.
Like, if this survives this owner's meeting, and it survives May, and it's in for next year, teams will do, just like you said with the Chiefs, they had a tight end and come in and take it, right? Take the snap. Instead, I think it was the Packers had Tucker Craft do it.
Yeah, it's like instead of your quarterback getting in the middle of the 600 pound kind of scrum, maybe have somebody else do it. It's like, I wonder how many people are in the I wonder how many people are in the room talking about that.
Okay, so we want D-Packles to end up taking snaps, and then they're getting two people on their, like. Give it to Vito Vea.
I mean, that's probably the next iteration of this thing, if I had to guess. Has to be, yeah.
And, I mean, think about taking a snap and Vito Vea. What if he's, you're pushing that dude.
He's downhill. Exactly.
I don't know how you stop it defensively. When guys leave their feet, like the second level, and you jump over top, like that's useless at the time.
Over. It's just when they – if you don't have three guys in the center and get a complete jump on the snap and chop these guys down before they even get underneath you, like the offensive line, you have no chance.
It's just not going to happen. And that's what the commanders tried to do.
And then basically the refs had to come out. Because what was it, four or five? You see guys going sideways.
The Chiefs there had a guy lined up. Chris Jones got hurt.
Yeah, that's when Chris Jones got hurt. Yeah, bingo.
I mean, good luck. Yeah, I'm happy I don't play defense.
You know, just in general.

But Ciliani needs to come out and run that play 50 straight times in a game.

And especially if he gets his thing passed.

I don't know how his offensive line will be able to stand up afterwards.

But if they run this first down, second down, third down,

all the way down the field and score a touchdown,

I think then a message will be sent that we're better than you are. Congrats to the Bills and Christian Benford on a four-year, $76 million deal.
Did we know these types of deals were still coming at this stage of the offseason? Nope. Nope.
Did not. Legitimately, Bean is out there just cooking over there.
We talked to Ted K we talked to ted karis the other day and he was like the salary cap some teams don't have it i don't know how that goes but it's like the buffalo bills had to move on from their previous team uh of all the ogs and all the people because they couldn't pay everybody because they just paid josh allen they repaid josh and then they're still paying everybody over there. Brandon Bean's obviously in it to win it, and congratulations to Christian Benford.
I don't think I know much about him. D-Butch, four years, 76 million.
How you doing? Keep it moving. Benford is an absolute dog.
I think he'd be a little more mainstream if he had a different number. You think 47 has a corner? 47.
It throws people off out there at corner for sure. I'm sure it's some type of sentimental meaning probably behind that number.
But he's a phenomenal player, fantastic player. He got banged up last year, had a concussion, and then came back, I think, too early.
I don't think he should have been out there and then got banged up again, so he didn't end his year great. But he's been a great pickup for them.
This is a great deal I think for Buffalo as well start as far as value that's coming in at under 20 million dollars when you saw what the cornerback market did this all season for them to lock him up and I think maybe this could have something to do with uh the contract talks at least reportedly falling through with uh James Cook you know James Cook obviously wants his money we saw him commenting on the Saquon deal. And then I think Brandon Bean talked about, hey, we had some extension talks, which kind of stopped.
So it'll be interesting to see maybe he's the odd man left out. But it's a great value, I think, for both sides, for Benford and the Buffalo Bills locking up their young star cornerback for the next four years.
How about Brandon Bean going all in, seemingly? That's got to be scary for the AFC East, Tom, man. Yeah, I don't know about that.
They definitely are latching their wagons, but I don't know if it's scary. The salary cap thing that doesn't make any sense, and we talked about a little before the show with Lamar Jackson, is when you pay a quarterback more money today, you save more money tomorrow.
That is why I assume the Cap Hits, they're able to do it because they gave Josh Allen $330 million. But also I feel like there has been a lot of games being reported when it comes to these numbers.
We talked about how when Mahomes got his deal, it was 10 years, $500 million, and then we kind of find out it was really 10 years. Period.
Period. That was the reporting.
Matter of fact. Journalism.
Journalism. It was really 10 years or 8 years, $400 million with all these crazy numbers.
Even now with with the guarantees we see, like, well, the guarantees include injury guarantees, which aren't real guarantees. They are, you know, very specific things that add to the numbers.
So absolutely it's great, you know, it being reported as $76 million, but who knows what that is. Because even with the Stefan Diggs thing, the Stefan Diggs contract was reported as was reported as you know three years 69 million with you know 27 yeah 26 million guaranteed and then we come to find out yesterday it's really like a one year 16 million dollars guaranteed deal so as much money is being thrown out and it is great that you know everyone is making so much money the salary cap thing will just never make sense no matter what for the rest of the time but it does feel like the Josh quarterbacks getting paid you know immediately just helps the teams you know all around like even with the Lamar extension talks like I assume Ronnie Stanley their left tackle going back to Baltimore kind of did have or will have something to do with the fact that Lamar is going to sign, you know, a massive extension that inevitably is going to help the Ravens, you know, pay a bunch of guys over the next few years.
Yeah, they'll be able to kick the can down the road. That's the fun digs update is fascinating because the teams are okay with the massive number being you know marketed yeah

yeah we're paying guys yeah yeah yeah yeah we're paying guys and at the end of the day we're paying 10 million dollars less than that actually in real life it's like league looks good players the only one that seemingly doesn't benefit from that so i think insiders are okay getting that information and then reporting it and also where's the transparency come from who knows let's talk being transparent transparent did you see what those did on march 20th oh yeah you were doing the walk we ran the thing and started talking about it a little bit wow insane demon yeah i don't know how many of you how good no like how like how what what is what is happening he continues to predict the future over and over again. I don't know.
I don't think. Is it true? I think it's true.

I don't know. I don't think He's about a nowhere to Did he pop up out of nowhere to kind of Yeah, he pulled him out of nowhere.
Remember chef. He's like his manager took him around yeah from the depths of hell Well potentially that's what I'm saying here so like this guy just pops up out of nowhere in our world and then he just starts predicting everything.
I think I'm frozen I don't know if I'm still here. You're good.
Yeah, am I still here? Yeah, you're good Anyways, this dude pops up pops up out of nowhere and there's just starts doing this while I don't know none of it makes sense to me. Oh, this is a demon I genuinely believe an actual demon.
Happy you guys talked about that. Okay, let's stay in the basketball world, but go to the professional one.
How about the Detroit Pistons just trying to make the palace in the palace every single night? What's going on, Foxy? That's just beef stew football, Pat. Whenever the Detroit Pistons are good, they have a guy that all he does is he grabs rebounds and he fights people.
If you go back to the bad boys, Bill Lambeer. If you go back to the 0-4 Pistons, Ben Wallace.
And now we have Beef Stew. And he will fight anyone.
If you guys remember his marquee fight, he chased down LeBron James and even tried to fight him. I think he's the only person in NBA history to do that.
That's just Beef Stew football. Did we have the video? Did we have the video? It was a real fight.
I was impressed. It was a real legit situation.
I don't want to be caught. Yeah, me too.
Let's not compare beef stew to Bill Wallace. I agree.
I agree. I know what you're saying.
Bill Wallace is the defensive player of the year. This is all.
I mean. Okay.
DeVincenzo getting a little soft. Oh, yeah.
DeVincenzo's a push down What do you do if I mean there's front row right there and you're getting stomped What are you gonna do you punch yourself? I think you're doing this one here. Yeah, I think you're doing this one The foot hand like you're doing jujitsu on your back.
Yeah, yeah Yeah, more like Yeah, you are in full guard. Just like what you do whenever a plane is about to crash.
You put your legs out like this. Knees up against the feet.
Yeah, and then you stop it all. You stop it all by doing that.
Yeah, real scrap. Real surprise, it's the Pistons.
Yeah. Real surprise.
I love it. I think it's good.
Guess who we're coming for in the playoffs right now. Right now it's Pistons Pacers, baby.
And I know the Pacers don't got a dog like Beefs do. Oh, yeah.
Guaranteed. What? Okay.
Too much flash. Did you say we? I slipped.
I'm in the team. D-Bots has been on it as a casual as well.
I would never drop the heat, all right? Never. Even when I was still running the show.
Boy, it called me a casual because I asked Foxy last night on X, like, what else does Beef Stew do besides Beef? And people sent me a few highlights and told me he's a top 10 rim protector. Hey, look, I love physical guys who set the tone, but literally every time I see 28 chasing down LeBron, I miss seeing him do the same thing.
We all love dogs. Maybe get with Dan Campbell and see if he can help the Lions off the edge or tight end.
He's a dog. I like Beechs too.
And if his only job is to fight people, I'm cool with it too. I'm cool with that.
I like that type of mentality in it all. What else is going around the NBA? The biggest thing was that the Memphis Grizzlies were the number four overall team in the West.
And they fired their coach a couple weeks before the playoffs started. It made no sense.
There were some reports, and I don't know if they were like Shams reports or just internet reports, but the offensive system, Ja didn't like, but that doesn't really make any sense because he's not like a new head coach there. He's been there for a little while.
So that kind of blew the West wide open as far as the middle of the pack goes so who knows what happens with the

grizzlies one of their players actually got asked about it and he said he thought that it was an nba centel uh report not a real report but no he got fired and then uh in the east in the west it's still kind of calves and uh okc running running the show Tax Act knows filing your taxes can be complicated, and that's why we have live experts to help you with any questions. They can hold your hand through the process beginning to end.
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And Ty, in baseball, the only thing that happened is that you Yankees are cheaters? Is that what everybody talks about? What are some other storylines other than the Yankees are cheating with their wood? So yeah, I mean mean, cheating, you could say it. You could just outsmart in the competition would also be one way to say it.
The Dodgers are 5-0. They continue to kind of just beat the piss out of everybody.
And the Padres, the dads, are also undefeated. They swept the Braves.
Braves are supposed to be very good this year. Reds are good again.
Yeah, sure. And a good opening day parade.
Teddy Karras talked about how great it was. And then, unfortunately for you guys, the Pirates.
Easy how you phrase it. I don't know if you want to call it bad luck, bad bullpen, which we know they have.
They were walked off, what, two out of three? Three. Three out of three, which is like the first time it's happened since, yeah, 1924.
And surprise, that was the 1924 Pirates that happened as well. That team won a World Series, though.
They did. And it's funny, too.
They're asking guys in the locker room, like, hey, how do you respond to this? Obviously, it's a fucking 162-game season, so no one's going crazy after losing three games. But one of their pitchers basically said, how do you respond to something like this happened? Three heartbreaking losses to start the season.
He basically was just like, fuck it. It's a long season.
Just move past it. We'll figure it out eventually.
Yeah, hopefully. Maybe that's a sign they should sell it to.
Could be yeah maybe it's the baseball god saying hey excuse me you need a little bit something different going on you're like walked off every game thus far and obviously paul skeins is the future of baseball happy that the buckos are back in record-breaking conversations even if it's not great let go to hockey now. Ovi's scoring, huh? We're five goals away, Nicky Skates.
This guy's going to get it. Five goals away.
This one, not his prettiest. Down in big to Buffalo, but he gets a tip in front.
Not really what he's known for. He's known for setting up in his office up top on a power play and sniping goals, but he can do it down front.
Get a little dirty, greasy goal, but he's getting it done any way he can, and it sure feels like he's going to get this done before the end of the season. Was that OV Banzemaker dance video real? Anyone else? Oh yeah, that's real.
Loved it. That's awesome.
Once again, that's George Foster worthy of a follow. George Foster on X.
He is a former teammate of mine long time NFL offensive lineman phenomenal Twitter user phenomenal X user and to be clear when I saw this video I did not know enough about Ovi's game I had no idea that we were bands of maker dance every game seemingly they had him in different different uniforms, different buildings. I think he's just trying to make him dance out there.
I'll tell you what, five goals to go. This record has been intact since 1999.
I looked this up. Obviously almost 30 years.
Nobody thought it was going to get done. And the fact that Ovi was hurt this year and still has the chance to catch this.
Five goals, nine games, very easy stuff for Ovechkin,

even though it sounds incredibly difficult,

especially with the way this year has been going for the Caps.

Caps still leading the East, Nick?

Yeah, they are record-wise the best team,

sorry, second best team currently in the league,

but definitely leading the East with 103 points.

Damn.

Good year to be a Caps fan. Congrats to them.
And then Chet Hanks, I'm just seeing this. Is that a new song? Chet Hanks, is that a new song? Yeah, I don't know if you can call it a new song.
You can call it a new anthem perhaps because in about a week's time, the president might change the entire country because of this song. Him and actually Tom makes an appearance.
It's Chet kind of dressing up as a few of Tom's roles. And let me just tell you, look, I'm not joking.
It's a catchy tune. It is actually a good song.
Yeah, this is not a joke. This is a real song.
This isn't like the bring the boom. We bring the boom to you.
It's not like. That's not a real song.
Bring the boom to you is only like a minute and a half, two minutes. This is Chet Hanks legitimately starting a music career.
Starting. This is kind of like a LeAngelo Ball situation with Tweaker.
Have you seen him? He's in that running point. He's legit.
The judge? He has a very big role. I don't know if any of you have seen that, that running point with Kate Hudson.
It's good. Chet Hanks is a big part of that show.
Yeah, he's legit. Yeah.
Yeah, people will say, you know, Chet Hanks is a nepo baby. And obviously when you grow up in the industry, you're going to be good at it.
Who cares? Who cares? There's nothing check you do about it. Why all he could do is Do his Yeah importing out a song that is a banger by what you guys are saying Absolutely hysterical and then obviously big news around the sports world for number ones are the final four in this year's March Madness college basketball tournament.
And the SEC will have a national champion contender. Florida takes on Auburn.
Duke taking on Houston. Duke really the only team out of the ACC which is historically a great basketball team.
Our basketball conference. Who cares? If they end up winning the natty and the ACC wins the national championship, that'll be the only thing that is talked about.
This Florida team's had a couple close dances, favored by two and a half against a very good Auburn squad. And then Kelvin Sampson leading that Houston team, which is a grind and pine style basketball team against Duke.
Should be an electrifying Final Four on Saturday. Let's go to Bubba Gumpino in the back.
Gumpy, good money on Duke. Is that where you're residing, or who are you betting on, Gump? I'm going to take whoever wins Florida and Auburn.
I like both of them. Houston will be able to match the physicality of Duke, but I don't think they'll be able to beat Duke.
Like, Duke bullied. Duke's been bullying everybody.
Houston had some man meat down low. They can match that.
I just don't know if they can beat Duke. I think whoever comes out of Auburn and Florida has a good chance of beating Duke in the final.
What did you learn from watching that Tennessee first half with Houston? It looked like they were very tired. Every three-pointer hit the front of the rim.
That was atrocious 15 points well especially after we were there friday night that was the best they looked all year against kentucky on friday night and then you can say the same about alabama the best they looked all year was against byu they go and play duke and they can't hit a damn thing duke is so good defensively and they will bully teams lucasville stadium was a good setup yeah it looked like it it was it was a good had a good view of everything had good games obviously i mean a couple of them were blowouts but it was it was a good i thought it was a good host i legitimately thought and now all eyes are on san antonio where they at down there? They're in that. Yeah.
That's huge. That's a big.
Yeah, it's gigantic. Like, I think as shooters, and we know college guys, they can shoot lights out, but they can't shoot like NBA dudes.
Like, if you get in one of those big venues, D-Bot can speak more than any of us. D-Bot's a legit basketball player.
Like, isn't it weird sometimes shooting in those huge venues when you go from an arena, basically, to a stadium? Like, Alamo Dome, I played a played a bowl game there. It's huge.
I actually went there for one of the UConn National Championship runs for the women's side. The court's got to look so small.
The depth perception changed. But once they get out there and they practice, they have their shoot-arounds, these are some of the best shooters, obviously, in the world, in the country.
So they definitely figure it out. I lost a lot of interest in March Madness after my Huskies got bumped.

But this will be great.

Come on, dude.

I was watching golf this weekend, all right?

Min Woo Lee got his first win.

That was a good tournament.

He was sitting at a leaderboard on Sunday.

Yep.

Roars.

Scotty.

Yep.

What was that?

Woodland.

He made a run on.

So it was some great, great golf this weekend leading into the Masters.

But I'll definitely be locked in

in this Final Four run. I'm with a gump, so

I think the winner ultimately comes out of

the SEC.

SEC winning it would obviously be great for Sankey

and for their entire narrative that they

are now a basketball conference. Had

seven of the Sweet 16

teams now. Obviously, they will have a representative

in the National Championship as

Florida and Auburn play against each other. Ari Mirov and others are saying that NFL executive Peter O'Reilly, good guy, that changed chat with, O-O-O-O-Reilly from the NFL, said that the league is exploring a possibility of a regular season game in the United Arab Emirates.
more work is needed before it becomes a reality. Let me tell you why they're doing that Explain it Maybe I may make maybe that might be the actual thing it's like can we do there? And if we can, how often? And is that a real thing? And it's like, yes.
Okay. I would like to be on the side of, I think it's good to help countries and everything evolve.
I think it's a good thing like getting a chance to watch from afar. I've never been over there What the WWE has done alongside Saudi Arabia and the crown prince god bless him uh and everything they have going on over there for their citizens for their entertainment for day-to-day For what life is like from what it was just 10 15 years ago to what it is now Like I think that's good for their society good for the world now granted There's a lot of detractors to all of that you're doing business with people that have blah blah blah blah and it's like if we start digging into all those things especially in all these different countries like i think you're going to be able to find everywhere there's been mistakes obviously bigger than in some places than others i get it but watching their society evolve with the wwe and with sport and with entertainment and us taking the game like i like the thought of bringing the world together and closer via sport i enjoy the fact that golf was being utilized as something for saudi arabia folks to get interested in more american sports like i like the thought of sport bringing the world together because ultimately that's what i think sports are about and if the NFL is able to take their game over there and receive a huge payment a fucking Huge payment.
I think it's good for the world as a whole, but yes that number And the amount of apostrophes that'll be on that one I assume only goes up which is good for salary cap good for the league but also a very real situation yeah great uh i don't know what that what's that flight like 18 hours or something to try to get over there you might have a bye week coming back from that one but you're right like that's i mean if they're a whole nother part if they're doing australia if they're talking about doing australia like i don't think they give a shit about about the concord the new concord's coming out in a year or two right remember ursa was talking about you when their new concord that's about to be ready let's give that thing a couple years yeah i don't know i don't know if i'm signing up for this get on the first one yeah just like connor just said i'll go on the seventh one oh like you let someone else in you know i don't know about that i'll go on it a month after it's in double digits need double digits in that one at least maybe triple that's like i'm at a point now where people are trying to sell me planes, which is hilarious

and

it's crazy to me that the brand new ones are so much more expensive because if somebody comes up to me and they say

You got a brand new plane. I'm gonna say this thing's got no no this thing's never been up or down

Like well in tests, obviously it's like I'm not getting on that plane

Thanks. I need my bird to be experienced.
Okay. I need to experience a Midwestern wind a Midwestern fall I needed to go over there towards the Northeast whenever you know It's about to be winter and that Bay is humming like I'd like some hours on my plane I would like some hours on it.
They will know this is the one you want. It's like no It is the fuck it is.
I'm not on that thing. No way.
Have the wheels gone down and up yet? Because I've been on a plane where the wheels wouldn't go up. Okay? And that's certainly something.
And then I've been on one where the wheels wouldn't go down for like a couple hours. And they're like, we think we might have to body this thing.
And it's like, I'm dead. Okay.
I'm dying today. That's sweet.
So I want my bird to have a little experience just like the Concorde. If I'm hopping on an actual rocket, I'd like that thing to at least take a trip.
Another round. Another round.
Another round. You know.
I want one of those. I want a drone, like the human-sized drone where it's like the one-seater I get in, I just type my, and it flies me 20 minutes to my house or something.
That's what I'm looking for. I don't think you can get to England for a game.
Nah, I mean, this is more shorter. Like, hey, I'm at the Thunderdome.
I need to go a 25-minute drive from here. Boom.
Give me my little Uber drone where I can order from my phone. Oh, yeah.
Right? Is that a helicopter? If it's four choppers that are doing all the

work? I don't know. You tell me.
Alright, we'll wrap

it up here. Netflix, raw.

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One hour and six minutes from now. Should be

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It might change

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Nice.

Torpedoed that thing. Yeah, it did.

Yeah, you torpedoed the shit out of that thing.

Still think that is genius. That feels like something they're going to ban.
Yeah, it just seems like a genius play. It was just the perfect storm where they used the bats and all of a sudden they got hotter and they faced pitchers that they see the ball well.
Like, what happened? Yeah, I mean, they hit nine homers in their seventh game. They're not going to continue this pace.
No, definitely not. Yeah, I mean, that's what, yeah, the Brewers, on Saturday, they hit three homers in the first three pitches of the game.

So it kind of really started to heat things up there.

But yeah, any time you hit nine homers in a game, they scored so many runs and they just beat the shit out of them that people are going to say, hey, you got to call competitive balance.

But again, everyone

had the opportunity to do something like this

and it has kind of been around

before. But like I said, like if the

Yankees or like the Dodgers

or, you know, like one of these big teams do this,

it's obviously going to get a lot more eyes on it. But we'll see.

I would assume that, you know, more people

are going to start using these in the coming weeks.

Juice the balls. It's time

to juice the balls, okay? We don't want guys taking steroids. Fine.
Get the torpedo bats on every team and juice the balls. And then we get the Summer Slam all over again and baseball is all the way back.
Because I also saw a cool promo video of all the players and all the teams, and it did make me want to watch baseball because it had sweet music behind it and it had Shohei hitting homers with Aaron Judge. This is such a simple fix to the problem baseball has had in the past.
I'm with you, Cumberland. I am still shocked from the news that you told me the guy that built these bats works for the fucking Miami Marcos.
That probably answers your question. AJ, that is not the bats.
Yeah, that's definitely because we've been, what, one of the shittiest teams in the last one.

Real bad.

Real bad.

And Samson was there?

Yeah, Jazz is figuring it out.

Doug Goat.

It's fucking ridiculous.

But a lot of people are also saying that John Cardinal Stanton used the torpedo bat last year,

and that's why both of his elbows don't work anymore.

So maybe the weight distribution, you know, that could call something into... We were swinging too hard? Yeah, exactly.
Swinging too hard, those torpedoes? Mm-hmm. I think it's good for baseball.
I love it. All right, and before I get out of here, we got to talk about something that obviously captivated some headlines.
Morgan Wallen just wasn't told if he was supposed to talk to everybody, or what do you think happened? He just wanted to get back to God's country, man. He's been in New York.
Does the musical act spend all week or at least the last couple days there? He didn't just come in for Saturday. He spent the credits there.
He was over everything. They had the photo.
Remember they did the promo where he was standing on the side,

didn't say anything, was just giving the looks.

Morgan Wallen, my number one Spotify musician.

So I am a big fan.

I've had a chance to meet him a few times.

Cool dude.

When I heard he was doing Saturday Night Live,

he was super pumped for him.

Yeah, I walked out with him.

You're right.

I completely forgot about that.

I walked out with him at Lucas Oil Stadium.

The first one.

I think it was like the first one, the first walkout. Me and Tyrese Halliburton Obviously, we're out there going mad silly dude It was so lit dude, we're doing it So when I saw the first promo where he didn't say anything, he just kind of looked over and head nodded I was was like, oh, this looks like it's going well.
And then I saw him at the end give the ass out hug, not the ass in hug. And then I saw him just fucking roll right out towards the camera.
I mean, I laughed. I laughed.
Saturday night's supposed to be funny. I laughed very hard.
I laughed very hard. he said he was not i don't know if it was

him or somebody in his team said he was he did not know he thought the show was over he thought he

was just supposed to to go on and get out of there so i think it's a legendary exit and then he gets

the teeterboro and he says get me back to my dirt bikes and get me back to my 40s and get me back

to god's country and uh i think obviously i assume he was honored to be a part of Saturday Night Live, but he did something that's never been done before. And that show's been on a long time.
I laughed so fucking hard, though. So hard watching it take place.
Because what if nobody pulled him? And he never watched the end? Like, what if he never got to the end of a Saturday Night Live and they're like, you know, it's been years and he's like yeah yeah we'll say goodbye and get all right all right incredible i love it i laugh so hard what's the issue what do people think they think the the staff didn't or you know the crew the cast didn't uh like him or he didn't like the cast is that what happened she got. Or he just had to get home.
No, he just didn't know.

That was the same way he left all week long.

That's just how it went.

Every time I've been up here, I fucking write it.

It says exit.

Is that where?

People said that maybe he didn't get along

or they didn't get along.

I saw some terrible things said about Morgan

by people on the internet

because obviously they're going to say that.

He's provided an opportunity throughout his entire life for that to happen.

Keep on trucking, Morgan.

You did great.

You did absolutely great.

Your exit is one they'll talk about forever.

They'll actually say next time, hey, don't do the Morgan wall.

They'll say that forever.

That's what legends do. That's what legends do, brother.
All right,, I'm gonna go do this program. I can't thank you guys enough 1750 tickets on sale Wednesday at noon just been opened up just been opened up.
Let's go. Hell.
Yeah Do you think there's a background on that graphic I can't we mean I do you mean? On my screen, I can't. It's just black.
Yeah, there is actually. I can see it.
There's a little like a... Like a black background.
Gravelly kind of feel to it. I can see it.
Now, why would you want to see that? You know, like, why would you? If you were making the graphic, you'd take all the time to put the city of Pittsburgh in the background of the graphic, you know? Oh, that's... I don't see it.
Why would you want anybody to see it? Huh. That's not Pittsburgh.
I'm just happy it says big night out, Pat. I'm really just happy to see that on there.
Oh, it is Pittsburgh. I do worry that my leadership and coaching is just not good because this D-bone guy, you know, we'll get to a new graphic and it's like,

have I taught you nothing?

Have we,

have you,

are my words not,

can you hear,

are you deaf?

What is the,

am I not saying,

so I'll tell you what,

D-bone has really challenged me

to become a better orator

and for that,

I appreciate him

because the guy's a fucking talent.

The guy's a fucking talent and he knows it but great graphic here and it's great news cannot wait for big night out week and a half from today it's happening holy shit it's happening it's gonna be cool alright I'm gonna go out here I sent. Can you guys pull that off? Can we play that? What is that room used for? Do you know? Look at this.
Is that... Oh, yeah.
So it's a back room. Oh, that is...
Oh, hell yeah. I mean, that's every arena.
That's all the rooms like this. Good lad.
That's Eddie Orango, one of our greatest officials here at the WWE. He said, hey, I got a room for you, brother.
Nobody knows about it. And then, bang, I walked into this thing walked into this thing that's that's where i'm at right now that is literally that's where i'm i guess it's a green room i wonder who i wonder who has been here like and i don't see a uh oh yeah there is one right there i guess i was gonna i was thinking maybe this is a uh sure yeah cover that thing up they've done some things in there i don't think we want to know what happens in that room.
Don't get a blacklight on that couch. I mean, look at a waterfall.
Yeah, they have a decorated jungle for a reason. I mean, the whole thing is a mirror on one side.
You think they're boning in here? I think people are boning. People are boning for sure right there.
With those mirrors, that's what they're for. You think people are boning in the other team right here? Is that cloth on the couch? You want some leather you can wipe up.
That stuff's going to seep into that cloth. Oh, boy.
That's bad news, Barry. They steam cleaning.
I wonder who's Steven I sat on here. Mick Jagger.
Yeah, for everybody. Ringo's.
Sorry, the artist formerly known. All of the Beatles.
Yeah, really. Even John.
Paul, obviously. I got some lefty semen in here.
You're right. Good question.
All right, I'm out of here. I'll see you, boys.
See you, brother. get him.
So Netflix, 3 p.m. Eastern, correct? Yes.
Netflix, 3 p.m. Eastern, we're on the road to WrestleMania.
We are on the road to WrestleMania. What happens tonight? Who's coming out tonight? You mentioned possibly somebody that we can't see.
Yeah, I think you know. I don't know why.
Who could that be? I thought we were done making those jokes. What? They're not funny.
They never work. You can't see me.
Is there a final boss? I want John Cena to start rapping again. Honestly.
He never stopped. I wonder if Cody Rhodes is going to play Clash of Clans in the middle of the ring.
I think there's a chance. What do you want to talk about, AJ? I did see a video of that.
I wonder if Triple H is going to keep protecting Cody Rhodes. Oh, you mean he won't let him go face-to-face because Senior would destroy him with a promo.
Yeah, I want Senior to cook him with a mic. Is Dwayne over there? You mean the final boss? The final boss.
I don't know. High chief.
I don't know. No, actually, I saw he couldn't get out to the UFL game because his flight had to turn around mid-flight from Hawaii over the ocean.
How was the UFL weekend? It was a great weekend. Didn't old buddy make a kick? Destroy.
Destroy and he trained a kick. Oh, he did.
Yeah, 39-yard field goal. There was a lot of good tackling.
Is that real? Skip Holtz and some other head coach almost got into a fist fight. I did not see that.
Shit, missed that. It was pretty sweet.
I watched Jordan Townsend. Do you think I get a bonus? Drop some dimes.
You think the Rock pays him a bonus if coaches fight? Okay, we'll get some more eyeballs. Sounds like they all want bonuses, and that was kind of why we almost didn't have the ufl this year yeah they did they did have the first down uh technology right this is where we get new technology that will eventually get to the nfl right yeah that was sweet to see so there's there it must be a chip in the ball and then this on the field like how was it quick what technology they use the nfl won't use micro process give us that.process.
Give us that. I'm assuming they're using the same.
You know how bad that would hurt to come in and make that tackle? Oof. Who would? Throw the fist up, fourth down.
Wow. So do we think this has legs, this league? Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, the crowd was packed in all the games.
Definitely has legs. I mean, first, like a centipede.
You can say whatever you want, but these guys, every guy playing on this field, they're all elite football players. No doubt about that.
So much better than anybody we've watched play in high school and mostly in college. Yes, agreed.
But it's weird when it's not the NFL, D, but why is it so hard to get invested in something that's not the NFL? Oh, here we go. This is Puka's brother, right? Yeah, it's Puka's brother.
Both of Puka's brothers scored, I believe. Really? Good day.
I feel like I'm watching any given Sunday. That's why I can't get on board with it because it's like, these aren't NFL uniforms.
I feel like I'm watching a movie where they couldn't get NFL licensing and we have these weird Michigan Panthers. I'm just never going to get there with that.
Where are they playing? Where's the game? Where are these Bank Stadium. The Michigan Panthers will play at Ford Field.
I know that. Okay, so they have home.
They need to play at smaller venues. The thing is, that doesn't matter.
That's what the indoor league does. College football and the NFL are such incredible products where even the step down.
LeBron kind of mentioned it with college basketball even the step down from college to nba people have a tough time with and like something like that versus a college game is a level and then obviously i mean you guys know like college to nfl is another level so it's like it just you know it's fun you got to be invested you got to be invested in the players. That's the problem.
If, obviously, you have a buddy or a family member playing, you're going to go, like, and you're going to be all in. But outside of that, how do you get casuals to all of a sudden be interested in something that's a new startup? More POV, Cam.
That's certainly a way to start. Innovation.
Yeah, I'll watch that. Doing an F1 series, you know, that's how people go on the F1.
Oh, the Netflix? Yeah. I also don't like.
I don't know. You can't do it like the March Madnesses on this weekend.
It's like the biggest games of the year. It's very hard to be like.
Listen, I know the Elite Eight is going on, but fucking UFL season starting. I mean, Joe Klatt was calling the game, wasn't he? Yeah.
Fox is the big time. Cole Kublik fell asleep during it.
No, he didn't. Did he? No.
He was snoring. He might as well.
Just saw he wasn't a huge fan, but I also didn't see exactly what happened. Speaking of lower leagues, Bruce bought season tickets to Fisher's Freight.
The indoor league starts soon. Iowa Barnstormers season open next week.
I'll be there. What sport is it? What sport is it? Indoor football league.
Oh, okay. Fisher's Freight's 1 Indoor League starts soon.
Iowa Barnstormers season over next week. What sport is it?

Indoor Football League.

Fisher's Freight's 1-0.

41-29 victory in that first weekend. It's actually very fun to watch in person.
There's big hits

and there's touchdowns all over the place. Any players we know?

Yeah, me.

I'm actually playing quarterback.

Not yet. You should go play some safety.

What position?

I'm actually playing quarterback for Fisher's Freight.

That's where I was last week. What kind of venue is it? It's a new venue around here in Fishers.
It's seats like 7,000. It's where like the Andy Fuel, yeah, the volleyball team plays there.
Blake Shelton's just there. Is that the Freight? Yeah, that's a big play for us.
So is this the arena league? Is this the league that AB had a team? Oh, you're talking about the Albany Empire? I don't know if that league exists anymore. Under was 83 and a half? Oh, yeah, this is the IFL.
Yeah, this isn't like the arena league. This is the IFL.
A fluent game. Well, I mean, Under was.
A lot of people are saying Joseph Jr. might win defensive I did hear that

I did hear it

Who got season 6?

Bruce Bruce

How did you afford that?

He decided not to get McDonald's last week

Come on now

These guys are late on the line

They're affordable, family-friendly prices

They're late on the line for our entertainment

Picked up a coupon

Some poor guy owns the team Thank you. on the line.
They're affordable, family-friendly prices. They're laid on the line for our entertainment.
Picked up a coupon

at Crosby's.

Modern-day gladiators.

Some poor guy

owns the team.

That being said,

this is like 10 minutes

from my house.

I'll go to every fucking game.

If you don't think

I'm going to be

embedded in the Iowa

Barnstormers bench,

you're crazy.

They might let you coast.

Maybe.

No doubt.

You might get a carry

on the goal line.

When's the season

over at home?

Sorry about that, RPO.

Friday, 7.05.

Friday, 7.05.

See you there.

Yep.

I'm sorry. Maybe.
You might get a carry on the goal line. When's the season over at home? Sorry about that, RPO.
Friday, 7.05. See you there.
Like Friday night? Now I get my high school fix in the offseason, in the spring. I miss Friday night lights usually in the spring.
Now I have it back. They got good booze cocktails in that place, too.
They do that. No, what's sweet? Big steel cups.
We've showed it before, but the outdoor adult league where they wear no pads, but still full contact, that is actually very entertaining. That needs like a Savannah.
They send me messages all the time to watch. That needs a Savannah Bananas run, where they're going around from field to field and playing football.
What is Savannah Bananas? Are they really traveling? They sell out. They sell out.
It's a stadium. Okay.
Can you explain? Can you explain? There's two teams, right? Yep, two teams. Always two teams? The same two teams play each other? The party animals and the bananas.
Yeah. Actually.
Baseball, call them globetrotters. Yeah.
Same thing. But are they, okay, are the outcomes, what are the outcomes? No.
They're playing like, I mean, they're just doing like cool dances before they throw it, but then they're like really pitching and really trying to hit it. trying to hit it.
And they just have sweet gimmicks. Old buddy on stilts.
Yeah, backyard baseball, where you have activate stilts mode or something. So that's what we're doing.
Activate bigger back. But the dudes can play, though.
They're legit baseball players. Oh, yeah.
But do you have to audition? Because you have to be an absolute performer. They got the guy who does the backflip in the outfield before he catches, you know, pop fly.
That's what I'm saying. Cirque du Soleil.
One of the rules they had was in the ninth inning, because they have certain rules with the fans, too. Oh, those are awesome.
I remember this from last year. If you catch a ball or something.
It was like if a fan catches a foul ball, games over, that team wins. And it happened.
Really? People went nuts. I thought they brought the fan onto the field.

It was really cool, actually.

So they're still trying to win. Each team is trying to win the games.

They each have their own little...

Really? Yeah. They each have their own form

of entertainment, though.

But they all have

elaborate... Sometimes I'll see the video

of the dude walking in from

the top of the stadium doing a choreographed dance with 80 people. They have a good time.
I know. How many stops do they have? I've seen a lot of They sold out Fenway not too long ago.
Before the season started. For an entire weekend.
I'm not sure if they sold it out, but they sold like 60,000 tickets in the Raymond James for the Tempe Buccaneers play. Has anyone made the jump to the majors?

I don't know if that's how it works.

Tone, I'm not confident that you are

confident in what you said. A couple guys? That's not

how it works. I think you may have just said that.

That's where it came out.

I do think it's the opposite.

Was he doing backflip? I do think it is the opposite

where single A, double A guys

will go to the bananas.

Guys who have retired too.

These guys are legit entertaining. Shane Victorino was playing for one of the other teams.
He's a former World Series MVP. I don't know if he was on the Party Animals or the Bananas.
I think he was a banana. Johnny Damon, Ryan Howard.
Johnny Damon? Yeah, they played in a game. They were really part of it.
Not just like, hey, this is an honorary at-bat. No no, no.
Like they were part of the game. Oh, I don't know.
They might have been a pinch hit situation, but either way, they were playing. I mean, if you can pitch off a stilts, I give you credit, you should win that game.
Certainly. That dude's on stilts.
Yeah, look, that's Raymond James. Yeah, yeah.
Nuts. That's a cool setup.
Wow. Who won this one? Bananas.
Bananas maybe probably. Bananas maybe probably.
I will say one of the craziest things that happens, if it's like, I can't remember if it's a foul ball and a fan catches it, it is called an out. Okay.
I like that rule. I like that rule.
I don't know if we said that already, but that was one of my favorite things of all time. We did.
We started it. It's a good gimmick.
It is. It's good to reinforce it and drove it home.
It is true, though, right? So, wow.

How far is the homerun?

What if I throw it back?

600 yards. Doesn't that happen?

If you hit a homer and you throw it back, doesn't something happen?

Yeah, they beat the shit out of you.

No, actually, if the fans throw the homerun ball back,

then the club signs you, and then you lead them to the World Series,

but then your elbow fully heals.

You can't throw the fastball anymore.

Chet Stedman's your mentor.

He's like a grumpy old guy, right?

He starts dating your mom.

Loves Salisbury steak.

Loves it.

Who doesn't?

Looks like he's like 58.

He's still pitching in the majors.

Don't call him the rocket anymore.

You want to reference the movie you're talking to all the young people?

What?

Anyone younger than you?

There's no movie reference there.

Okay.

I'll tell you the rules. Rosenbagger.
That from top to to bottom that was a great era of movies I guess what it was all yeah you buddy you've seen that right what was it yeah I see I was trying your name I did not see it yeah it was great I saw a little see just a giant can't remember little giant you You know, I say a lot it. Yeah, it was great.
I saw one of those movies you see. Little Giants.
I can't remember. Little Giants.
You know Icebox, right? Spike. Bangor still haven't seen Mighty Ducks.
Those are some good ones. The Big Green.
Steve Guttenberg, head coach. Air Bud.
Great time for sports. Original Space Jam.
Oh, my kids were watching Original Space Jam last night. It holds up.
Which one do you do you like better they haven't even seen the new one I made that run about space yeah fuck space jam was legit that's a movie yeah yeah good magic stuff I mean legit movie I think he filmed any film it in the middle of his three-peat yeah they built an entire I remember that right yeah he would go play with him bringing all the big-time deals and he would play I try to tell to tell my kids that, actually. I was like, hey, there's a reason Michael Jordan's Michael Jordan.
When he was filming this in the offseason, he brought in all the best players in the world and played for eight hours every single day to try to let him just reinforce that. Jordan didn't wake up and all of a sudden become that good.
I'm glad you reinforced it. They didn't listen.
They didn't listen. Every day.
They didn't listen. It'll resonate.
They heard. You think? Yeah.
At some point. Maybe not yesterday, but they heard.
You're right. You're right.
Someday. With that being said, I think we're going to wrap this thing up, Tone.
Okay. Anything we need to know as far as gambling moving forward from today until tomorrow when Pac gets back? No.
Nothing going on tonight? Anything you can gamble on tonight? The Crown. The Crown Basketball Tournament starts tonight in Vegas.
Okay. What the fuck is that? It's not the NIT.
It's not the CBI, but it is a college basketball tournament. I think it's the first year it's happened.
It starts in Vegas tonight. Okay.
These teams haven't played basketball in two months, so it should be. Like, do we know who's playing? Yeah, like Arizona State's playing Nebraska.
Georgetown's playing Washington State. Those are real teams.
I'm confused. Yeah, like these are decent teams.
What have they been doing? I've never seen this before. I don't know why it took so long to start.
USC? This is happening tonight. Villanova? State? Everyone's in the portal.
I was confused as well, Foxy. These teams haven't played basketball in two months.
They don't have guys. I don't understand it.
Tomorrow's April 1st. Is there a chance you got duped? Oh.
No chance. This is the crown, crown, brother.
You got any plans for April Fool's? I'm a big April Fool's guy. That's why I asked.
No. Okay, what stupid April Fool's things are we going to wake up here tomorrow? So many.
Aaron signed. Oh, yeah.
For sure. Yep.
What if he was waiting to sign an April Fool's just to mess with him? That would be him. That'd be so Aaron.
No, I mean, April Fool's thinks people, I don't know what the old classic go-tos are. I mean, a lot of people are going to get got on Twitter tomorrow.
We're going to have a couple celebrities that, you know, die tomorrow, which they're not dead, but we're going to get several of those. Isn't that always funny when we think someone's dead and then we say, oh, gotcha, we're not? Yeah, I saw that.
It's past. Which one are you referencing? I just saw them.
I watch a lot of sports talk. Okay.
For the record, this person's alive, though. I hope so.
Think so. All right.
I mean, I saw him multiple times. I just want isolated.
If I'm not confident that someone is dead, I'm not going to announce them dead. Just for the record.
Just like I'm not going to ask if you're pregnant. Smart.
Let them tell you. That is smart.
If you're dead, I don't need to see you dead or you need to tell me you're dead. And if you're pregnant, I'm never asking.
You got to tell me. Bingo.
I'll just say congratulations. I'm with you on that.
A thousand percent. It's smart.
It's good rule. Everyone should be with you on that.
They're not. Everyone's not.
I know. They're not.
And also with you. Man, look at you.
How many months pregnant are you? Huh? And then the person's not. I've been around a few of those.
Bobby, stop. No.
Again? No. You should bag some dog shit tonight, and maybe you piss in a couple plastic cups, and set it out tomorrow, and make your kids think that's what's for breakfast.
What? That's a good idea. We don't have any groceries.
This is the best we got to make do with what we got. And as they're slopping up the turds, I got you, April Fool's, after I see them eat three bowls of it.
Or you put some of that turd on like a donut and you're just like, hey guys, got donuts today. Everyone's got, you know, he's got a chocolate frothy, he's got a double chocolate.
Oh, the store manager took his shit in our donuts. What the hell? If I end up doing that, I will film it for you guys.
You should. It will not traumatize my kids at all.
Tony, you got a kid. I do.
You can do it. How old is she? Two and a half.
Oh, yeah. She gets it.
Dad fed me a poop donut today. But it was April Fool's.
Luckily, he's not just that mean. That was a good one.
It was a good one. I'll probably do it.
I'll film it. I'll film it for you.
Okay, good. Well, tomorrow, Pat's going to make the long flight back here, obviously, tonight.
Man, he's logging some miles. Oh, yeah.
His schedule is unbelievable. But in 3 p.m.
Eastern, WWE Raw from London, England, the O2 Arena. We'll be playing over to Netflix.
Check that out. That'll be awesome.
We'll hear a couple pop-in guests maybe that aren't always around might be there, right, Todd? Maybe. Maybe.
We'll be intrigued. I will be back in Ohio in the attic tomorrow.
D-Butt, appreciate you. You'll be here tomorrow with Pat.
Today's only Monday, huh? Next week, big night out. Wednesday at noon, 1750.
More tickets will go on sale. It's going to be awesome.
Can't wait to see what that whole situation is like. It's going to be super cool.
I'm looking forward to it. Good to be back with you boys, everybody in the back.
Appreciate you guys helping me out and everything today. I'll be back tomorrow.
Pat will be here. Con man, good to see you, Ty.
Good to see you. Tone, great job.
You look good. Break us down, Hawk.
Break us down. Here we go, guys.
Everyone in the back. Here we go.
Get him up. Here we go.
Team on me. Team on three.
One, two, three. Team.
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