PMS 2.0 1317 - Elite 8 Recap, Ian Rapoport From The League Meetings, Duke Head Coach Jon Scheyer, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

2h 17m
On today’s show, Pat is LIVE from the O2 Arena in London ahead of Monday Night Raw, while AJ Hawk hosts from the ThunderDome with Darius Butler and the boys. They recap this weekend’s Elite 8 games and how this is the first year since 2008 that all four #1 seeds made the Final Four. They also discuss the Yankees usage of “Torpedo bats” taking over the MLB world after hitting 15 home runs in 3 games, and how everyone wants a piece of the action now, before chatting about all the different conversations happening at the league meetings in Palm Beach. Joining the progrum LIVE from the League Meetings is NFL Network Senior Insider, Ian Rapoport to discuss Aaron Rodgers throwing with DK Metcalf in LA, if there is a timeline on his decision, which of the potential rule changes will actually pass and be implemented including the tush push, Lamar Jackson’s new contract coming soon, and all the other pertinent information being discussed in Palm Beach. Later, 2x NCAA National Champion (one as player, one as assistant coach), All-American, and current Head Coach of the Duke Blue Devils, Jon Scheyer to chat about his team this year, stepping in after Coach K and how that process has gone as a whole, creating his own identity as Head Coach of Duke, how special his freshman class is including Cooper Flagg, what the Duke Brotherhood means, how they’re preparing for Houston, and much more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you on Monday. Cheers.
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Speaker 1 Here we go, the Pat McAvey Show.

Speaker 1 I'm AJ Hawks, sitting in for Pat. He'll be joining us from London, England, the O2 Arena, I believe.

Speaker 1 Boys!

Speaker 2 Have been amazing, Pat.

Speaker 1 What's going on? This is awesome, actually. We get a view strictly.
This is, you are like, what, ringside, ready to go tonight? Obviously, Netflix, London, England. How's it going over there, man?

Speaker 3 Hey, life is good, AJ. Thank you for taking the trip to Indianapolis to host alongside the boys.
And obviously, it's a great group over there in the Thunderdome. But let me let you know something.

Speaker 3 This trip to London that I've had over the last 24, 48 hours has been nothing short of spectacular. I got a chance to enjoy the sights, you know, have some booze

Speaker 1 with the locals.

Speaker 3 You know, Wade Barrett,

Speaker 3 who is a part of the commentary team on SmackDown, formerly Bad News Barrett in the WWE from England. His team, Preston Northend, was in the FA Cup, I believe, quarterfinal.

Speaker 3 They were taking on a squad. And,

Speaker 3 yeah, we boozed a little bit and watched that game yesterday. Then we went on a pub crawl.
Myself, Michael Cole, Wade Barrett. We went time to time.
There's Winston Churchill right there.

Speaker 3 Let me tell you, he is a

Speaker 3 revered gentleman over here. Okay.
He obviously did his thing. We went to a couple of small pubs.
This right here is James's pub. His mom, Suzanne, started it in 1980.

Speaker 3 He's now the governor of the pub. He lives upstairs.
It's old school. They gave me a Sunday roast of beef.
I ate that thing.

Speaker 3 And, you know, probably gallons of beer were drank yesterday all around London.

Speaker 3 A lot of lads were met. And that right there is actually the laboratory that sets the world's time.

Speaker 3 That building right there. I didn't want to walk all the way up the hill.
I didn't find it that fascinating, but I took a picture of it from afar. That is where, you know, the world's time starts.

Speaker 3 So I got a chance to see the town a little bit. Wade Barrett and Stu is his name was walking us around.
And yeah, I mean, it was a wonderful day.

Speaker 3 It was like 65 degrees, clear skies in the middle of March. I got a little sunburn in London in March.

Speaker 3 Yes, I might be the whitest of whites to have that particular stat, but it was a good time yesterday. And now, Preston Northend Wade soccer team, they're not good.

Speaker 3 Well, yesterday they weren't at least. They lost 3-0.
But the game before, guess what they did, AJ?

Speaker 1 What's that?

Speaker 3 They beat Burnley 3-0.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 that go away. It hasn't been given up any goals this year, I thought.

Speaker 3 Yeah, well, gave up three to Preston North End. We're the one and only North End.
That's the chance I heard and enjoyed. But, yeah, it's been awesome over here in London.
Now we're in the O2 arena.

Speaker 3 We got Monday Night Raw coming up here in a couple of hours. Obviously, London time, five hours ahead.
So it normally starts at 8 o'clock Eastern on Netflix.

Speaker 3 Today will be 3 o'clock Eastern, then obviously running full-time. And it's an honor to be over here, especially with how big of a day we have today.

Speaker 3 Rapsheet's going to be joining here in a matter of moments. Coach John Shire from the Duke Blue Devils will be joining us in about 35 minutes or so.

Speaker 3 And then, you know, for the rest of the program, we're going to be talking about all things happening around sports. I know it's not just you over there, though, AJ.

Speaker 3 It sounds like there's a great group group of lads over there. Is there a bunch of lad of lads over there? Is that the toxic table? Do I hear? Is Boston Connor back in the Thunderdome already?

Speaker 1 Yeah, back in the Saturday. Good to be back.

Speaker 2 Good to be back. You know, I knew you were in London, so I, you know, wore the Team USA hockey jersey.
Something the Brits can't do, play hockey. Another thing they can't do, probably eat food.

Speaker 2 I assume you ate some terrible beets and mash or fish and chips or some bullshit that they serve over there. But yeah, it's good to be back, man.
I'm excited for Raw in London.

Speaker 3 It was a great weekend of basketball as well it's awesome i will tell you this um

Speaker 3 you walk into some of these places because the fish and chips thing

Speaker 3 you do walk right into a pit of ass i mean it smells oh yeah in some of these and they're all like kind of tight you know i don't think anything has smelled worse than a pub bathroom like a couple you walk in there it's as if somebody is shitting in your face whenever you walk in because it's real tight they're real tight spaces you know it's all real close quarters in there and uh i was as american as possible i had a backwards hat on obviously at the air forces

Speaker 3 People were nice to me here. I did not expect it.
I did not expect the people to be as kind as they were to me, big dumb American. But I will say, yeah, they can't play hockey.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 They can't play hockey. And it's coming home.
We all know what that means. Soccer is coming to the United States of America at some point.
We're going to be good.

Speaker 3 But on that note, sports did happen all weekend. I saw sitting next to you, Conman.
I don't know if you saw. Ty Schmidt's wearing a Yankee sweatshirt.
What's that all about?

Speaker 3 You guys are using astrophysicists to cheat the rest of the league, to cheat the sport? It's like Barry Bonds, Mark McGuire, Sammy Sosa level stuff.

Speaker 3 Why isn't everybody using these torpedo bats, hitting dong shot after dong shot after dong shot? Oh, we had eight homers in one game. Oh, Aaron Jodges hit four homers.

Speaker 3 I guess he's not using it because he doesn't need it. But what are we doing with these bats? And why isn't everybody doing this, Ty? This seems like a genius move.
Genius move.

Speaker 7 That is an excellent question, Pat. I don't know why everyone isn't doing it.
You mentioned it, the Yankees, basically a couple years ago.

Speaker 7 He doesn't work for the team still, but they hired an MIT physicist and basically said, like, hey, listen, we could spend all this money like the Dodgers are doing, or you could basically just invent a new baseball bat that hasn't been done in like 200-plus years.

Speaker 7 So, you know, you move a little bit of the wood around, move more of it into the barrel.

Speaker 7 So some of these guys who maybe aren't as good as hitters as Aaron Judge is, they can get around on the baseball and they can hit home runs. And, you know, it kind of just feels like.

Speaker 7 Everything is right in the baseball world. Everyone hates the Yankees again.
Everyone's saying that they cheat. You know, it's not so much the Dodgers anymore.
They come out.

Speaker 7 They hit 15 dingers over the first three games, beat the shit out of the Brewers every single game. And all is right in the world now.
And now you got a bunch of teams and agents reaching out.

Speaker 1 Everybody's doing this right, Ty?

Speaker 1 Didn't you assume every team's going to have these bats?

Speaker 2 Multiple teams

Speaker 7 had guys who were using it, but

Speaker 7 no one obviously was as successful as the Yankees were. But yeah, I would imagine that by today or this week, every team in the majors will have a couple of these these torpedo bats on the way.

Speaker 3 I listened to Jazz Chisholm, the guy that just jacked one right there, talk about it a little bit, and he was just like, yeah, they said it's good, yeah, and I love it.

Speaker 3 I guess the more research I did on it and I read on it, I'm not a great reader, everybody understands that, but I guess like the max amount of weight and the max amount of girth that you're allowed to have, basically they just reshaped where that is.

Speaker 3 And it's like, if this has been laying out there forever, the Yankees figuring it out and this physicist figuring it out, I think it's good on you. You know, it's good.

Speaker 3 A nine-year NFL event, obviously, host of everything. DB, good D, bad D, Dairy Skate, Bunker.
We're not baseball players at all, D.

Speaker 3 Bucks, but whenever you're doing something that's been available for everybody else to do, I got no problems with that. I think it's next-level thinking, don't you?

Speaker 5 Yeah, now we know that the NFL is a copycat league. I don't follow the MLB as much, but I would assume they're going to be a copycat league as well, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, without a doubt. Everyone's going to be doing that.

Speaker 5 AJ, can I see that back real quick? Because I know you're explaining it, but you said Aaron Judge isn't using it because of how good of a hitter he is. Where exactly are they putting the wood?

Speaker 7 So they're moving it basically from like the, yeah, maybe like the handle or other parts of it into like more like around like the barrel or like up a little bit above the barrel, like around the

Speaker 7 kind of like signature there. Because like one of the guys they're talking about, Anthony Volpe, he gets jammed a bunch.

Speaker 7 So they moved some of like the sweet spot up there a little bit so he can get around on it. And he's he's catching more barrels.

Speaker 1 The engraving though? Is it where the wording is and where they have the little engraving? That's changed as well though. Yeah, Yeah, I think that's...

Speaker 1 What's the biggest part of, like, is it the mass moving? Is it not having those engravings right in the sweet spot or what?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean, look, it's just, it's moving the sweet spot of the bat.

Speaker 1 They're not more wood on the ball. Exactly.
They're just moving the water.

Speaker 3 They're moving the wasted wood. Okay, they kind of dodge the bats.
They took the wasted wood and moved it to where a more prevalent part of the bat would be. If I'm reading it accurately, Ty, right?

Speaker 1 No, if I'm reading it.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that is correct.

Speaker 7 They basically, yeah, because there are, like you said, there are certain parameters in which the bat bat has to be, and they're within, you know, like the rule book, but they just, there's nothing that says you can't kind of move the wood around to get it to a point in the bat where people are hitting more balls.

Speaker 7 And that's what they did.

Speaker 3 That's Jazz Chisholm there. Yeah.
13. Yep.
Okay. So he's been talking about it, right? And that's the most defined looking photo of the bat that I've seen, I think, out of all the photos.

Speaker 3 And nobody ever hits it off the tip of the bat. So that's normally where it gets bigger, right? It normally just kind of like funnels out.
Yep. So you never hit it off the tip.

Speaker 3 If you do, it's not going anywhere.

Speaker 7 So them deciding to just push that thing down a little bit like how the sausage is made you know and then like kind of bottling in there that feels like genius are they gonna ban this how long until they ban this i i don't know if they'll ban it because it is one of those things i mean it's kind of it's kind of like the tush push almost like there were other teams that were using it this weekend and you know i mean when the yankees do it or like if the dodgers would have done it like more people are going to see about it and obviously they hit nine homers in a game so it kind of you know it it puts a lot more attention on it.

Speaker 7 But if other teams are available to use this, like the guy doesn't work, the guy who invented this doesn't work for the Yankees anymore. He works for the Marlins.

Speaker 7 And there were some people that, yeah, there were some people that used it last year as well. So we'll see.

Speaker 7 I think maybe if it gets a little bit too much, like if the Yankees are scoring, you know, 20 runs every single game with this going on, I could see them maybe, you know, doing something.

Speaker 7 But this certainly, I mean, this is a good thing for baseball. You know, they hit 15 home runs in three games.
Like, it's making the product more entertaining.

Speaker 3 On that note, we all love Dinger baseball back when everybody was just eating steroids. We all remember it.
And that was when it was at its finest.

Speaker 3 So, if this torpedo bat's going to help out with that, as the pitching only gets better and better, which seemingly has been the case over the last couple of years, I'm all in.

Speaker 3 I love it whenever, you know, greats try to be innovative. Now, Hembo sent me some stats here.
The Yankees have hit 15 home runs, which is tied most all the time by any team through three games.

Speaker 3 They tied who, Evan Fox?

Speaker 8 Detroit Tigers.

Speaker 3 Which year?

Speaker 8 2006.

Speaker 3 Nailed it. The Yankees have a 0.084 slugging percentage and a 1.231 OPS.
What's that?

Speaker 7 Very good on base plus slugging.

Speaker 3 Okay, both highest by any team through three games all-time. Okay, these torpedo bats.
Most all-time of slugging percentage on base.

Speaker 3 Aaron Judge thus far, obviously, first 27 games, he had four home runs. That was last year.
He finished with 58. 2025, first three games, he has four home runs.

Speaker 3 So, you know, he had a cold playoffs, and he said, why would I change anything with how good I did?

Speaker 3 It's like, well, maybe we dropped that torpedo in there for Aaron Judge in the playoffs, and we start seeing how things go. Baseball had a fantastic weekend.
That was great.

Speaker 3 We'll talk about college hoops, obviously, here in a matter of moments, as we have Coach Shire joining us from Duke.

Speaker 3 You know, White Mike is what they were calling him when he was growing up in Illinois to go play hoops a little bit. Can't wait to ask him about that and many other things.

Speaker 3 The NFL is having quite a weekend. Let's go to one half of the hammer.
Done.

Speaker 3 Cowboys AP Tone. What are the odds on how many rules are getting actually changed down at these owners meetings, Tone?

Speaker 3 because he just mentioned it there the tush push that one feels like that one's going to get overturned that one feels like it's going to get banned i i don't i don't love it i'm not going to say that i am a proponent of that getting banned but i believe the tush push that one feels like it's on its way out and no you already heard it being chatted about in a couple of a couple of these reports bro football talks talking about it sheter's talking about it a lot of people are talking about it how people in the competition committee i guess it got a little bit uh

Speaker 3 a little bit uh tense in there i guess there were some people that weren't necessarily thrilled with the thought of banning this entire entire thing, especially because one team's better at it than all of the other teams.

Speaker 3 But they did mention the precedent of the special teams pushing from the tight end or from the linebackers on the D-tackles for field goal blocks.

Speaker 3 It just feels like everybody doesn't want to say publicly that they want it.

Speaker 3 uh to be gone because they're all football guys and somebody's innovative and i forget who said it somebody said it this morning in their meeting about like any maybe bean i don't know anytime somebody creates a player sean mcdermott anytime somebody is innovative with the sport you never want to punish them for it but it does feel as if there is a lingering kind of, it feels like they're going to get rid of this particular play.

Speaker 3 Tone, is that an accurate reading from what you're getting? And how many of these do you think actually get passed at this owner's meetings down here?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I feel like that's an accurate reading from everything that's coming out. Obviously, you're starting to get the insights.

Speaker 3 Not saying it should be. I'm not saying it should be.

Speaker 3 I'm just saying, like, feels like everybody that's in the room where it happens is like, I don't want to say this publicly because I'm a football guy, but also, come on, come on, clock, clock, clock, clock, clock.

Speaker 3 We got 900 pounds worth of dudes pushing people into a scan. One team's able to do it.
Nobody else is able to do it. And then the Eagles are like, so that's on us.

Speaker 3 And it's like, I'm not saying that it should be banned.

Speaker 3 I'm just saying it feels like there is a ground support, a swell happening behind the scenes, like an underground type of combo about not wanting it in the game. Feels like it.

Speaker 3 Just from reading from the outside, and I'm in London, but that's just reading the tea leaves and the crumpets, if you will.

Speaker 1 No, I think you are reading the tea leaves and the crumpets very well because, you know, the insiders are now coming out and reporting that there's a groundswell for this to be banned and once that starts happening it feels like that's normally something that does happen like because if they're getting that info from somewhere and I would assume it's the league and once that info starts coming out and they they get those votes that they want you can assume that the push-push is potentially no more the other rules that I think are probably going to get passed the regular season overtime matching the playoff overtime that just makes sense like we talked about that there's no reason for those not to match the moving the kickoff touchback to the 35, that also feels like there's a ground swell because going from, as we talked about, the 25 to the 30 wasn't a big enough penalty for the touchback in that situation.

Speaker 1 More replay assist, that makes sense. I mean, there's no reason not, we've talked about it many, many times.

Speaker 1 If we can just have the replay assistant, you know, voice down and say, hey, you had it wrong. Let's just move it to here, move it to there.
That seems like it.

Speaker 1 The two that are... I don't see the defensive holding a legal contact not resulting in a first down.
Like that's because we know these DBs, third and 15, they're just going to tackle guys.

Speaker 1 There's no reason not to. I don't see that one getting past it.

Speaker 1 But the most interesting one, I think, that is up in there is the wild card seeding, whether, you know, a 14 and three Minnesota Vikings would have to travel to L.A. if that game was in L.A.

Speaker 1 in that situation. Like, is that going to happen where the higher seeded or the better win percentage team will have to go to the division winner as an away game? That one is interesting.

Speaker 1 I got no idea if that one's going to pass or not. I don't even have a feeling on that one.

Speaker 3 Debuts, Tom brings up a good point there about defensive holding an illegal contact.

Speaker 3 You guys will game the shit out of that one, so that's going to feel tough to change, but also wild card seeding with how successful the playoffs have been thus far. I don't see him touching it.

Speaker 3 What are your thoughts on all these debuts?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I don't see him touching that either. I don't see him touching a defensive holding illegal contact one because it is a defensive rule.

Speaker 5 And I can't remember the last time they made a significant change to help the defense. Obviously, they like selling tickets.
They like scoring touchdowns, first downs, quarterbacks.

Speaker 5 We know how that goes. Replay assist, that sounds great.

Speaker 5 We had the conversation last year. I feel like every few years a conversation where it's a team who, like the Vikings last year, 13, 14 games didn't have to go on the road.

Speaker 5 But I kind of, I'm, I guess, maybe old school in this mind frame of winning your division means something. You know, winning that division, getting that home playoff game, that's a big deal.

Speaker 5 So I would be hopeful that they leave that one as is.

Speaker 3 Edge, what do you think, Edge? What are your thoughts?

Speaker 1 I wonder if there's a possibility that none of these pass.

Speaker 1 Could they come out of here with nothing? Did they get nothing done? Because the tush-push situation, I think you're right. It feels like that thing will get banned.
I don't think it should be banned.

Speaker 1 I feel it.

Speaker 5 Was McDermott against the Tush Push? Because I know the

Speaker 1 second one. He said it against the second most of the time.
I know we ran it. They were unbelievable at it.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 until

Speaker 1 when it mattered most.

Speaker 1 It feels like there's some

Speaker 1 going on over there. Oh, it's amazing.

Speaker 6 Yeah, where are you?

Speaker 3 They're testing out the old speakers over here.

Speaker 3 Let me tell you, Yeet is sounding fancy. It's just me, oosh.
You know,

Speaker 3 it's been quite a time, but you're right about the amount of rules that actually get changed.

Speaker 3 And like, normally we talk about the NFL as like a big, slow-moving ship where they kind of like set like little seeds in place.

Speaker 1 And then,

Speaker 3 you know, I mean, it is. The speakers are great here in the O2.

Speaker 3 There's a residency that happens here. It's called 21 Nights at the O2, and they have like awards in the back.
I guess Prince's photo is like in the front of it. He has like the silhouette.

Speaker 3 So I guess there's only a certain amount of artists that have done 21 nights here that claim residency here. This is an awesome arena.
Hey, all these

Speaker 3 they're much, I don't know if they get used as much or don't get used as much, whatever it is. Everything is so clean, brand new.
Like, you know what I mean? Like everything is

Speaker 1 like home arena. What's that, bro? Yeah, is any team, is there a sport played there or is it just concerts and wrestling and everything? Yeah, because they don't have a lot of indoor sport.

Speaker 1 You're right. Yeah, and Lee asks over there.

Speaker 3 So maybe that's why they're all so nice. Like they're all so like all the seeds are like brand new.
You know, like it looks, it looks very good.

Speaker 3 But with that being said, all these rules have had seeds in place for a few years.

Speaker 3 You know, all these things have kind of started, like the tush push, granted, that one's brand new, but I think they were talking about it last year trying to ban it. Yep.

Speaker 3 The postseason overtime stuff, seeds, right, since the 13 seconds.

Speaker 3 Touchback to 35, well, they moved it to 30. So seeds, they already did that one.
Replay assist, they started doing it more towards the end of the season without telling anybody.

Speaker 3 Seeds, they're in that one. And then the defensive holding and illegal contact, wild card seeding, those are basically the two that we've never really seen them kind of try to navigate.

Speaker 3 So I think that's potentially why we have a doubt in it. Con man, what are your thoughts on it all, brother?

Speaker 2 I mean, I think moving the kickoff would be the one that would actually change the game damn near the most because, I mean, how many, what was the increase in plays that we already had last year?

Speaker 2 It was, you know, astronomical.

Speaker 2 And then if you're thinking about moving that thing to the 35, does that that completely change the hey we're just kicking the ball out of the back of the end zone because I feel like it might just because you know you mentioned it moving the ball from the 25 to the 35 yards okay you know fine but now moving that thing to the 35 you really are two first downs away from a field goal so it feels like that would kind of create a lot more things we saw you know the cowboys

Speaker 2 their season last year obviously didn't go great but some of their best moments came from Turpin, you know, against the Commanders.

Speaker 2 That

Speaker 2 kick return touchdown against the Browns.

Speaker 2 He had the punt return, but it does feel like moving the kickoff touchback to the 35 would actually then lead to, you know, kind of having to aim for that landing zone.

Speaker 2 Because in the Super Bowl, the biggest game of the year, we didn't see one kick-return, you know, and I do feel like if

Speaker 2 that ball was coming out to the 35, that that would kind of actually change the entire thing. So I think that would be the best rule to change than the other ones.

Speaker 2 You know, it just kind of is what it is.

Speaker 3 Speaking of, you know, the Super Bowl and everything, like, there's going to be times where teams decide to just blast it out and give the ball to the 35.

Speaker 3 Like, if the other offense is not doing great and defense is doing well, we'll just give it to them in a 35.

Speaker 3 But just giving up, forfeiting a first down all of a sudden and the percentage of scoring, I think teams will land it in the landing zone.

Speaker 3 A person who might have a little bit more information on all this is a guy who is down at the meeting, ladies and gentlemen, senior insider for NFL Network, which is that going to be owned by USPN soon?

Speaker 3 A lot of rumblings. Ladies and gentlemen, he in wrap-up or or.

Speaker 10 What's going on, guys?

Speaker 3 You look super cool, bro.

Speaker 1 So good.

Speaker 10 Appreciate it. This is

Speaker 10 my Kentucky Derby suit from last year. Got to repurpose it for these events.
I think it really fits in kind of with this atmosphere. And I got to say, gotten some compliments.

Speaker 10 Gotten a lot of compliments.

Speaker 3 Really? What the hell?

Speaker 3 You look tall.

Speaker 11 Mark Kaboli.

Speaker 10 Interestingly, nobody has said that.

Speaker 10 I saw Kaboli, by the way.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm wearing a suit.

Speaker 3 Yeah, the world's soccer bowl. Yeah, can you post that photo of Caboli sitting next to Mike Tomlin?

Speaker 3 One of the most important press conferences that's happening at the owner's meeting is Mike Tomlin speaking about Aaron Rodgers, and all anybody can talk about is how damn good Mark Caboli.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 10 I don't know when you guys picked up this press conference. God, that's it.

Speaker 10 You know, there's an account that takes sports pictures and turns them into art.

Speaker 10 You know, it's like art, but make it sports or something. Like, they got to do this picture.

Speaker 1 They got to do this picture.

Speaker 3 To be clear, to be clear, Kaboli was there early. Okay.
He represents the program well. He got a front row seat.
Literally, think about how many people are trying to get to the spot that he got to.

Speaker 3 And instead, it's just Kaboli, baby, on his cell phone. I'm going to record this for myself.
And he's so focused that it's going to appear as if he's actually snoozing, sleeping, drooling.

Speaker 3 Wow, Mike Tomlin speaking. And that's that's different.
You know, he made football every day.

Speaker 10 He made Tomlin laugh so hard today.

Speaker 10 He made Tomlin almost spit out his drinks and yes, at the end.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was just looking about the candy.

Speaker 3 Is it about the candy? Where he says, I heard me and DK Metcalf have the same candy consumption.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Roll it.

Speaker 2 Apparently, we have the same

Speaker 12 appetite for candy, me and DK. You hear about that?

Speaker 1 No, I didn't.

Speaker 13 Apparently, he eats four or five candy bars a day.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 1 That's what he said on the podcast. He wears it a little differently than you wear.

Speaker 3 Come on,

Speaker 3 Tom. Tom was always locked in for those, too.
He's always given incredible clips. Let's start there.
He talked about Aaron Rodgers, about how there's a process of the offseason.

Speaker 3 You know, we're trying to construct a team. You do it through free agency.
If you can't get through free agency, you go through the draft.

Speaker 3 Obviously, Aaron Rodgers allegedly was broken on NFL Network this morning on Good Morning Football, I believe, by one of your Paisano friends.

Speaker 3 And Aaron Rodgers had a throwing session this past weekend with DK Metcalf at UCLA.

Speaker 3 Now, was DK at UCLA at the same time Aaron was at UCLA and they just so happened to throw to each other or was this something that was organized and set up?

Speaker 3 What are you kind of reading through this all, Ian, especially down there, boots on the ground with a used suit that everybody seemingly likes?

Speaker 10 Only used once. Lightly used, I think, is the proper term.
It's not, yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 10 Anyway,

Speaker 10 it still looks amazing.

Speaker 10 This was not a coincidence. This was not like, you know, Matthew Stafford running into Brady at Yellowstone.
This was a planned throwing session. Sounds like it went very well, from my understanding.

Speaker 10 It was lengthy. It was, you know, look, Rogers has his process.
I think it's probably not as fast as many people would like.

Speaker 10 This is what he needs. It might be his last stop.
Probably is his last stop. Needs to make sure it's right.
If that includes throwing with the newly acquired star receiver for the team, okay.

Speaker 10 It sounded like, first of all, it wasn't exactly a secret. There were several other players, some rookies were training kind of around.
Like, it wasn't much of a secret,

Speaker 10 but

Speaker 10 it was a UCLA. It did go well.
It was, you know, part of the process for Rodgers to say, all right, maybe this is my eventual destination. And it seems to me,

Speaker 10 unless the Vikings do a complete about face from what they've said publicly, that would be his only spot.

Speaker 10 So it feels like a matter of time, but as you probably know, getting in the head of Aaron Rodgers and trying to figure out what he's up to is difficult.

Speaker 10 So I will sort of wait till it gets firm and final, but that's just my general feel on it.

Speaker 1 Ian, is there a chance? Like, is there a deadline? Like, is there a certain date where something has to happen one way or the other here?

Speaker 10 So the Steelers, and I think this is a little bit why there's a lot of reasons Mike Tomla is like the best.

Speaker 10 He really does respect the players, whether his future players or his current players. He respects their process.
He respects their sort of their desires. And it's obvious Rogers wants time.

Speaker 10 So they haven't said to him, like, all right, we need an answer by March 31st or whatever. And he would be like, do you, though? Like, you know, there's no actual deadline anyway.

Speaker 10 The draft is really the next time where things get real.

Speaker 10 Because if you're the Steelers and you have Mason Rudolph, who I think they would be okay entering the season with, obviously you'd like Aaron Rodgers, but I think they'd be okay with Mason.

Speaker 10 If it's not Rodgers, they might draft someone. And obviously you would need to know by the draft.
So that's kind of the only real deadline. And like, we've seen this before.

Speaker 10 When he was going to to the Jets, it was, I think it was the Tuesday of draft week, right? If I remember correctly, when the deal got done.

Speaker 10 Like, I don't know when Rogers is going to decide or when he's going to make his announcement or whatever it ends up being.

Speaker 10 But if you told me it was draft week, like I wouldn't be that shocked because that's the only time it actually sort of an answer needs to be given.

Speaker 3 Everybody's saying it's potentially going down on April 9th at big

Speaker 1 night.

Speaker 1 Oh, really?

Speaker 3 That's everybody saying that. I don't know that, though.

Speaker 3 Everybody's saying that.

Speaker 1 Have you talked to the person who's running?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I have. I have.
Every day I talk to that person. I'm sick.
In the mirror. I'm going to be honest.

Speaker 3 I've been talking to him for 37 years. I'm about to tell that guy.

Speaker 3 But yeah,

Speaker 3 that person has not heard anything about that. And that person also

Speaker 3 very intrigued about how it all works out, especially because, I mean, city of Pittsburgh, they got a team. They got a team.
Always have a team.

Speaker 3 If you get a Hall of Fame quarterback over there, I know some Yensers are going to be kind of cold to start but they're probably cold to start on russell wilson you know depending upon what the deal is for aaron if he was to go there and allegedly the contract has already been decided by the pittsburgh steelers and aaron rodgers for

Speaker 3 yeah so whenever that number is announced whatever it is we assume we might be wrong unless you know that is going to be a low number not that big of a number it's not going to be a gigantic number and uh i think jensers will be like all right let's go on a run here let's see what the hell we can have and then maybe they still draft a quarterback in that whole thing okay let's go down to florida where you are at do you know the number do you know the number yeah you i thought you knew

Speaker 10 I don't know, but I was told manageable. Like, I think you're, I, I, I believe what you are saying that it'll be something where no one's going to be like 58.

Speaker 10 You know, like, it's not going to be like that.

Speaker 1 Manageable.

Speaker 3 Yeah, or 40. I don't think it's going to be any.
I think it's going to be.

Speaker 3 Once again, I have not talked to any of the parties involved in weeks. AJ.
Yeah, AJ might know, actually.

Speaker 1 AJ, Jane.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Numbers-wise, I was going to ask Ian, what's the range? Like,

Speaker 1 what could he sign for? What did Florio say? Yeah, what did Florio

Speaker 3 what did Sholji say Ian well he said get me a lalati rap or I'll slap you in the mouth

Speaker 1 they don't even remember right

Speaker 10 my god um yeah what's the range the as far as what the actual number is I just to be honest I do not know and I don't think they're there yet where they could say like all right it's deal is agreed to just waiting on Rodney I think there's still some things that need to be finalized but I would agree with you guys.

Speaker 10 Like, I'd be a little, like you, Pat, you were saying, it seemed like you were saying might be under 40. Like, I think that's probably right.

Speaker 10 Uh, because there is a history of veteran quarterbacks signing either with their own teams or with, you know, new teams kind of last year of their career or maybe second or whatever it ends up being, understanding, like, I've made a lot of money.

Speaker 10 The number doesn't happen

Speaker 10 because you want to build the team around them. So that's kind of what I expect.

Speaker 3 Aaron Rodgers has actually made the most. Just, I don't want to be pocket-watching here, but NFL money is all very publicly broadcasted.

Speaker 3 Aaron has been the the most successful whenever it comes to cash, and uh, obviously, that is a good thing, especially if you're somebody that gives back philanthropists of the year in California.

Speaker 3 Thank you, Aaron.

Speaker 1 Thank you for your service.

Speaker 10 Let's go.

Speaker 3 Okay, so let's get to let's you were never philanthropist of the year in any of the states that you live in. You're absolutely let's remember that whenever you talk about Aaron.

Speaker 10 Not yet, not yet.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you're right. Booze bag, maybe, some of the cities.
Um,

Speaker 3 okay, I was with a couple professional booze bags yesterday. You would have loved it.
Have you ever done a London booze bag tour?

Speaker 10 No,

Speaker 10 I need to get over. I mean, this is my wheelhouse.
I saw on your social media you were hanging out in London. Now, how many pints? What's like a good number?

Speaker 3 I don't know. I was drinking one gallon of a little bit of a drink.
Didn't you drink?

Speaker 3 No, I was having like the local one that they had at each place. So each place had like their own thing.

Speaker 3 Own the people. Yep.
Well, I just, I mean, I'm never going to get to try it again. So when I was there, I was like, I might as well give it a go.
And they have these bitter beers.

Speaker 3 There's like a bitter beer. and I really thought of the bitter beer face.

Speaker 3 Yeah, exactly. It was not like that at all.
We're talking water. Those things were

Speaker 3 see. Yeah, it was.
Really? And I did, I did put on a show a couple times with the guzzling abilities. You know, always with the guzzling.
Okay, let's move to the owner's meeting, shall we?

Speaker 3 Because you have information that we do not have, and we need information. And to be clear, we have a guest in 10 minutes that we need to talk to that is

Speaker 3 not LeBron, but it's got a lot of going on.

Speaker 1 I mean, a huge,

Speaker 1 by the way.

Speaker 2 Twice as tall as you.

Speaker 10 Thank you.

Speaker 10 I mean,

Speaker 10 that's a really high bot. LeBron's stuff was great, I thought.
That was awesome.

Speaker 3 It was a lot. Thank you.
That was very kind of you. Fascinating, I believe, is what you texted me in the middle of it.
You weren't the only one.

Speaker 3 Okay. So my Hembo stats say that the Eagles, since 2022, are 108 of 124 whenever it comes to Tush Bushes, which is 87% of the time.
Now, it used to be above 90. I think it was 92%.

Speaker 3 That's why the new white podcast is 92%ers because that was when Jason Kelsey was in there. Obviously, he's a masterpiece of it all.
I am reading the T and Crumpet leaves from afar here in London.

Speaker 3 It feels as if there is a little bit of a groundswell from NFL people to ban this play. Is that accurate?

Speaker 3 But nobody wants to come out publicly and say it, because they all want to be known as football guys.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 10 some of the Packers people have come out publicly. Brian Goudekin just did media.
I talked to him afterward. He has come out publicly and said, essentially, this is, first of all, let me say this.

Speaker 10 I don't know that it's getting banned, but I do feel kind of like you're saying, the groundswell may be rewriting it. So like, is it going to go away?

Speaker 10 I don't know, but rewriting it would make some sense.

Speaker 10 And I think what they're nervous about is like, and the NFL, NFL officials have said very publicly, there's not enough injury data to see if it's something that like long-term could be a play that's sort of like an injury-filled play.

Speaker 10 But what they're nervous about is some catastrophic injury to like an offensive lineman. I think the center is probably most at risk.
And then you, and then you react and say, then ban it.

Speaker 10 So I think they're trying to get ahead of it and say, how can we make it just a little bit safer? Eliminate it. I don't know.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 10 I do feel the groundswell voice. Let's try to make this a little bit safer before anything will happen.

Speaker 1 Does that mean like one pusher?

Speaker 1 Like, what does that mean?

Speaker 1 Maybe, or

Speaker 10 I'm not 100% sure. I mean, one pusher might make sense, or maybe one push.
Like, maybe that would be a way to do it. Like,

Speaker 1 stop, that'll be proven.

Speaker 3 That'll be easier than one.

Speaker 1 Just one thrust. Just one push.
One thrust.

Speaker 3 Sometimes one thrust is all you need.

Speaker 10 That's all it needs.

Speaker 3 True. In rap.
We know that is all you got, too.

Speaker 1 But like, in football.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but whenever we talk about officiating this, we're putting more judgment calls now into the reps' hands.
I don't know if that's good play. I'll be

Speaker 3 starting to mention the precedent of the field goal block team not being able to push years ago, and then now it feels like there's a chance this thing gets banned. Who knows?

Speaker 3 Let's move to some other conversations. D-Bud has a question for you, Rap.

Speaker 5 Yeah, down in Florida with the Dolphins. Tyreek Hill, kind of stirring the pot a little bit, as he usually does on the internet.
I think somebody may have tweeted, hey, who is

Speaker 5 that player most likely to be traded on draft night? Somebody said Tyreek Hill. I think he quote tweeted it.

Speaker 5 Are you hearing anything with real decision makers as far as Tyreek Hill possibly moving this offseason or at any point from the Dolphins?

Speaker 10 First of all, I haven't. And I think he, you know,

Speaker 10 he does speak a lot on social media.

Speaker 10 He does sort of have his say.

Speaker 10 And I think this is good because you sort of want people to be able to speak their mind on social media, right? I think that's okay.

Speaker 3 I have not heard that. I have no talking points there.
Wait a talk. I think this is.

Speaker 10 No, I mean, I just in general, like what I don't want to do is sort of like players should have the ability to speak their minds.

Speaker 10 Like, even if it annoys teams, they should have this ability.

Speaker 10 I have not heard that he was going to be traded. He also is recovering from wrist surgery.
So trading someone, same thing with the Brandon Ayuk sort of trade rumors or whatever you'd even call it.

Speaker 10 You know, rarely do teams trade for people who are not fully healthy. So I think that would be complicated.
I think trading for his contract will be complicated.

Speaker 10 Could the Dolphins get enough where it would be worth it? I don't know. I don't think so.
So I don't see a ton here, except that probably we'll get him some retreats.

Speaker 1 Foster Connor's got something for you, Ian.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Rap Sheets. Another situation going on actually here in Indianapolis.
Dan Jones and AR are officially splitting QB1 reps. Is this going to be a true

Speaker 2 quarterback competition? Someone's got to win. Is there no one with kind of a leg up? I think most people would assume Anthony Richardson would have that.

Speaker 2 What are you kind of hearing with that situation?

Speaker 10 Yeah, I talked to Steichen about this, Shane Steichen about this today. Basically said, splitting reps 50-50.
They've been told.

Speaker 10 They've been informed how it's going to go, and it's going to be a storyline every day.

Speaker 10 And I hope that that is really really the case because the only thing that really matters for the Colts is the best quarterback plays. Like

Speaker 10 you've already drafted Anthony Richardson. You already gave him a big signing bonus as an early first round pick.
He's already had two years. Daniel Jones got the money he got.

Speaker 10 I think it's 14 million base, whatever it ends up being. The money's been paid.
The draft picks have been made. The only thing that matters is who is the best quarterback for the Colts.

Speaker 10 And so I hope it's fair. I hope it's real.
And like you guys have been in locker rooms, not all of you, but a lot of you guys have been in locker rooms.

Speaker 10 The players generally know. The players generally sort of decide.
And I think at the end of camp, it will be obvious. And I think that's who will be the coach quarterback.

Speaker 3 The highlights we're showing there of him with the Patriots, if he plays like that, he's unstoppable.

Speaker 3 That was the final drive against the Patriots. And it was Anthony Richardson playing his best football that he's ever played for us.

Speaker 3 And obviously, there's moments of magic there when Anthony Richardson's the only one that can do some of the stuff that he does. Hopefully he's able to figure it out this year.

Speaker 3 Hopefully, he's able to stay healthy. And if he can't beat Daniel Jones out, Daniel Jones fresh into a brand new offensive system, brand new building.

Speaker 3 I think that is obviously a situation that he'll have to learn from going forward. There is a world where Anthony Richardson doesn't win this quarterback competition.

Speaker 3 I'm not saying that that's going to happen, but there is. And let's say it doesn't work out with the Colts.
He's going to go to another team and be so great.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 So dumb. You know, because it would be like a, I've thought about that this weekend while I was traveling.
I'm like, Anthony Richardson's going to win a quarterback competition against Daniel Jones.

Speaker 3 You would assume. And then you would assume this offseason with how loud everything's been, ourselves included, that he would be like, okay, I got to lock in.
Very young, buddy.

Speaker 3 Like, okay, to be a professional quarterback, there's a lot that goes to it. Like, hopefully, now it is kind of something it all buys into.

Speaker 3 And then I thought to myself, well, what if Daniel Jones wins? Like, clearly, and they decide to move on from Anthony Richardson.

Speaker 3 It's like, well, there's the moment then that'll tell him that he needs to lock in and be a pro. And it's like, then he'll go somewhere else and become a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 3 So whatever the case is, good luck, Anthony. I hope it's with us.

Speaker 3 I hope hope it's with the Indianapolis Colts. Are you getting news there, Rap Sheet? Are you getting some news? What's going on?

Speaker 10 Just text from my wife. I'll answer in a second.

Speaker 3 Tell her we said hello. Did you guys win any of us bets this weekend?

Speaker 10 Jude was the only one who won.

Speaker 1 Of course. Hey,

Speaker 1 Jude.

Speaker 3 That's a big English thing, isn't it? Ty has a question for you. I think so.

Speaker 7 Yeah, Rap Sheet. I know you mentioned it about the Vikings and J.J.
McCarthy, but they haven't officially said he's the guy, even though everyone everyone is very excited about him.

Speaker 7 Are they going to keep doing this will they, won't they, with Rodgers? Because they haven't officially shut the door on that.

Speaker 7 Or at some point soon here, are we going to get confirmation that like, no, we're going with JJ McCarthy and we think he's going to be our guy?

Speaker 7 Because obviously KOC has spoken glowingly about him as well.

Speaker 10 Yeah, and KOC was just on with my buddy Pellicero on Nelfone Network. I think he posted either the video or the

Speaker 10 comments. I think it was pretty strong that JJ is the guy.
But even if they don't come out and say it, like we know.

Speaker 10 And I think, like, yes, I think they'd like him to earn it, but I think it will probably happen.

Speaker 10 It sounded like last year, early part of training camp before the injury, he was really impressive anyway. So, like, I know some people have sort of said, like, ah, maybe Aaron Rodgers there.
Like,

Speaker 10 anything's possible. I would never rule anything out in the world.
But it feels like JJ.

Speaker 10 for sure to me, JJ to JJ.

Speaker 10 And hearing the comments of of Vikings people today and this week seems to emphasize that even more.

Speaker 3 Okay, last question here from AP Tone.

Speaker 1 Yeah, rap sheet, let's stick with the quarterbacks. It was reported that the Ravens are in early talks with an extension for Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 1 Does that have anything to do with Josh Allen's contract getting torn up and him getting a new deal?

Speaker 1 Or is it, I saw he has a big cap hit coming up this next season, or is it just Lamar has earned this, obviously, and deserves an extension?

Speaker 10 I think it has more to do with the cap hit than with Josh Allen, but like Josh Allen getting it, now he got a great deal for him because basically what they did was they ripped up his old deal.

Speaker 10 They didn't just extend it, tack on some money. They kind of started new, which you never see teams do.

Speaker 10 But I think that sort of sets

Speaker 10 a little bit of the benchmark of where Lamar might be. So if Josh Allen comes in at 55, maybe Lamar is a little bit over that because generally the next guy is a little bit higher.

Speaker 10 But I think, yeah, it has to do with. If they're going to do something to lower his cap hit, which I know they would like to do, you know, he's your guy.
You have no doubt he deserves everything.

Speaker 10 A pay raise makes sense. A new contract makes sense.
And I could see it getting done. Absolutely.

Speaker 3 Last question for me before we let you go and enjoy that Florida weather while you're wearing a Kentucky Derby suit again.

Speaker 3 The vote happened tomorrow. How many of these will pass? We got a graphic here of basically everything we know of being proposed.
How many of these end up passing? Tush push, yes.

Speaker 3 I'm going to vote for myself here. Tush push, yes.
Tushime.

Speaker 3 Notch back 30. Let me just roll through here.
Tush push, yes. Regular season OT, yes.
Touchback to the 35, yes. Defensive holding an illegal contact, we all discussed.

Speaker 3 We don't think that's going to get passed. Replay assist, we think it will.
Wild card seating, we don't think it will. Will these all be voted on tomorrow? And what are your thoughts on the outcome?

Speaker 10 Tush pushes tomorrow, unless they say, you know what, let's reconsider it in May at Minnesota meetings, which might happen.

Speaker 10 Regular season OT,

Speaker 10 that seems like a pretty

Speaker 6 we'll see.

Speaker 10 I don't know if all some of these might be today, but I think the bulk of them is probably tomorrow.

Speaker 10 And I think what you're looking at, I mean, replay assist, like I feel pretty strongly that's like we've already seen a lot of that in play. Yeah.

Speaker 10 I mean, have we not? Like, so I think that's probably an easy one. Wild card seating, I'd be surprised about just because that seems like such a drastic.

Speaker 10 I think we'll get a couple of these, but to me, like the tush-push band is probably generating the most conversation. Usually, when there's a lot of conversation, they want to have more conversation.

Speaker 10 So, maybe we do end up talking about this in May.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 3 Sticking a pen in it, we'll circle back. Not a bad idea.
I guess the NFL has done that before. We appreciate the hell out of you, brother.

Speaker 10 All right. Thank you guys, Pat.
Enjoy those pints. I will be.
Obviously, I'm not doing any pint drinking down here, of course, but

Speaker 10 I'll be there in spirit.

Speaker 3 I did all the pints yesterday that I could handle. I think I'm good on pints for a while.
I mean, it was a lot of pints. Those things get heavy, you you know, and then the squirts come, obviously.

Speaker 3 I've heard.

Speaker 1 I've heard.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you've heard, obviously, never experienced. Ladies and gentlemen, the internet before.

Speaker 3 It was a lot of pints, dude.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 1 Ireland? Ireland type?

Speaker 3 Yeah, bitters, not as many as Ireland. Not as many.
Ireland was just such a sprint. You know,

Speaker 3 that one went real fast. This one was like started at one o'clock in the afternoon and then went till about 10 o'clock at night.

Speaker 3 And then it was just like kind of just bouncing around place to place along the Thames River, which I guess has a lot of history.

Speaker 3 I guess there's a lot of history. And it was high tide yesterday, so some water came up up onto the, up on the sidewalk thing.
It was,

Speaker 3 I had to represent though, you know, like I had to represent. That's how I always feel in these situations, like, especially with the way the world is now without America's being viewed.

Speaker 3 You know, I always feel like I got to represent. So I'll thank your local one, okay?

Speaker 3 And I'll thank whatever you all are doing. I'll do it as well.
And then we'll go to the next one. You know, in good spirits, in good spirits.

Speaker 1 Isn't Michael Cole?

Speaker 3 I would imagine Michael Cole was a great american you know partner when it comes to something like that representing if you're boozing michael cole was boozing yeah but michael cole is older you know so there was a time where thinner grumpy cole grumpy cole came out he he was you know we were sitting in his one beer garden and i looked at michael cole and we had both basically had enough you know we had both we had both basically been we'd been through it you know and uh i looked over at cole and he did like this uh because he had some pouches in or whatever And he did this spit into the rocks.

Speaker 3 And he still had a little bit on his lip, you know,

Speaker 3 and he did the whole hoop cares.

Speaker 1 And I was like,

Speaker 3 I was like, all right,

Speaker 3 we've probably done enough here. We've probably done enough here.
Then we tried to drive back to where we were staying. And, you know, they got round of boots everywhere.

Speaker 3 And they go the wrong direction. So you can get.
clipped pretty quick, you know, if you don't watch.

Speaker 3 And the people driving by you, you forget that the passenger is actually on the left side, driver's on the right. So it's like kind of weird.

Speaker 3 Like you see like a 12-year-old sitting in the passenger seat and it's like, is that person driving? And then, you know, comes up and then it's on the other side.

Speaker 3 So, but where we were driving to was like 10, 15 minute drive, but they shut down two of these roundabouts. And I'll tell you what, you shut down two roundabouts,

Speaker 3 you're not getting about anywhere. And we had to walk that thing.
So we did like a two-mile hike last night at the end of this whole thing. So, but it was a good time.
Everything's been great.

Speaker 3 I really enjoyed the weather was nice. The people were nice.
The pints were good. Some better than others, certainly.
But yeah, it's been a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 And tonight's show should be, well, I guess today's show for you guys backstateside should be absolutely absurd.

Speaker 3 Ladies and gentlemen, Johnny is now as a man who's a national champion as a hooper for a Duke. Guess what he's doing now, AJ?

Speaker 1 I think he's on the path to another one, Pat.

Speaker 3 Isn't he? As a coach at his own mama.

Speaker 3 There's only been three times in the history of college hoops where somebody's won a national championship and then guided their team back to at least the final four as the head coach.

Speaker 3 Ladies and gentlemen, out of Duke, white mic, Coach John Shire.

Speaker 3 How are you?

Speaker 15 I'm doing great. Well, I feel like I've arrived at McAfee Show with all you guys.
I feel like I've arrived. So thank you.

Speaker 3 You're in the final four, okay? You have arrived. Okay, let's just make sure that is understood.
Not on here has anything to do with that. But congrats, coach.

Speaker 3 Obviously, we just read off your accolades. And before we get to the team, and I'm sure the boys will have some, you know, Carla Choops question and this team question.

Speaker 3 For me, I just want to go back to the white Mike story. This is how I was introduced to you.
Okay, I just want to let you know that.

Speaker 3 I was introduced to your greatness via a story being told about how, yeah, John will come down into Chicago and there would be people that would be walking to go watch this dude, white Mike.

Speaker 3 And then obviously you had some time in the league, you get injured, everything goes, and you become a coach. But growing up, you were the guy, is national champion at Duke.

Speaker 3 Whenever you think about that perspective, how much has that helped you in either recruiting or in coaching?

Speaker 3 Or how much do you lean on being that that dude that you were for so long now in your coaching world, Coach?

Speaker 15 Well, you know what, Pat, I think the biggest thing for me is, you know, I had to get outside my environment growing up.

Speaker 15 And so anywhere there was a game in Chicago, I don't care where it was, I would go. And, you know,

Speaker 15 I think the biggest pride I found was having to find your own footing. You know, for me, it was just

Speaker 15 showing my game. And so I would go everywhere and play.
There was nice of Pat Bev to give me that love and to share those stories. I don't know if they called me white Mike,

Speaker 15 but I think they did have respect for the way I played.

Speaker 15 And so for me, the fact that I coach guys from all over the world, play with different guys from everywhere, I think that's just helped me understand different perspectives and connect with different people.

Speaker 3 Well, I think they did call you white Mike, and I think that type of hype is something that you have to have a lot of confidence to have being kind of said about you.

Speaker 3 And speaking of confidence, following in Coach Kay's foot, like that is putting on those boots at that school.

Speaker 3 I mean, it's Shaszzewskiville outside. I think his office is there.
It's like everything is Coach K. He's USA coach.

Speaker 3 So whoever was going to come in there afterwards had to be a very confident individual. Feels like you've been able to do it, but also in your own way.
Do you feel that way?

Speaker 3 Do you think your team is vastly different than maybe a Coach K team?

Speaker 15 Yeah, well, I think I just had to accept right away the comparisons are going to be there, but really come to terms with, I didn't have to come to terms. I knew right away,

Speaker 15 I'm not Coach K.

Speaker 15 Nobody else is. And so I found just great confidence in who I am as a person.
Understand you're not going to bat a thousand.

Speaker 15 You know, I wish you were, but there's decisions you can make along the way that aren't perfect.

Speaker 15 And to be able to keep that confidence, to be able to be authentic to who you are, to me is the most important thing.

Speaker 15 And so I think for our players, they understand I'm not trying to be anybody different. I am who I am.
And I think there's a lot of great things to it. I'll tell you this, though.

Speaker 15 I think we're playing modern way,

Speaker 15 you know, modern basketball, the way we share it, the way we, you know, play with pace and how versatile our team is,

Speaker 15 I think is really the way the game should be played and just a modern way of playing right now.

Speaker 1 Coach, can you describe what it's like from the start of the tournament until now?

Speaker 1 Obviously, Final Four, we all know what's on the line, but you have these young guys that are unbelievable superstars, but ultimately untested when it comes to

Speaker 1 the brightest lights, the big stage. You know, like as a player and a coach, how does every single round, does it amp up the intensity?

Speaker 1 And how do you find a way to keep your team kind of focused and dialed and not make too big of a deal of the whole situation?

Speaker 15 I think for me, AJ, the biggest thing for our guys,

Speaker 15 fact is we play five freshmen in our rotation and all five of them in high school, they could have probably played at 50, 60% and still been by far the best player.

Speaker 15 And so from day one, for me, it's been about setting an expectation of understanding

Speaker 15 what the standard is, but then also preparing to be at your best when your best is required. And that's what the tournament is all about.
It's not a best out five. It's not a best out of seven.

Speaker 15 You get one game.

Speaker 15 And so the fact that we were able to bring in really competitive dudes who play the right way and let you coach them, I think we've been able to create an environment on our team where they're not afraid of the moment.

Speaker 15 They're not afraid of the spotlight. And they set a standard for themselves with how hard they play all the time.

Speaker 15 And that's what I hope you guys see when you watch us, you know, how together we are, but most importantly, how hard we play. And I think for a young group to have that is a big-time thing.

Speaker 3 Here's a Hembo stat for you, coach, that you probably already know or somebody on your staff has told you. Duke's freshmen have played 434 minutes in the NCAA tournament.

Speaker 3 The other three final four teams have combined 160 minutes by their freshmen, 163 minutes by their freshmen.

Speaker 3 But we're at the end of the year, obviously, so you feel as if your team's a bit battle-tested. You guys haven't lost since February 8th.

Speaker 3 Okay, I don't want to jinx anything, but hey, you got to win a bunch of games in a tournament to win a national championship anyway, so that just is going to have to be how it is.

Speaker 3 Talk about that guy right there. Okay, obviously we knew the main event coming out of high school because we have a guy from Boston who's been hyping him up for a while.

Speaker 3 We have Duke fans, obviously, scattered throughout the entire show. AJ, growing up, was a Duke fan.
D-Bone, one of our graphics guys, a massive Duke fan.

Speaker 3 So I think there's a lot of people that have paid attention to Duke throughout the years. Getting Cooper Flag was obviously a massive talking point.

Speaker 3 Has he lived up to everything you thought you were getting in Cooper Flag? And every piece that I see about him, the more I like him, this dude could be in high school right now still, allegedly.

Speaker 3 Is that accurate?

Speaker 15 That's accurate. I mean, look, we have two guys that really are a year below the class that they're in,

Speaker 15 Cooper and then Kaman Malowatch. You know, Kaman should be in high school as well, you know, our starting center.

Speaker 15 And so, you know, look, both those guys, but you asked about Cooper.

Speaker 15 You would love him even more if you saw him every day, Pat. You know,

Speaker 15 the way he goes about his business,

Speaker 15 he knows no other way than to compete like crazy.

Speaker 15 You know, he's had moments where he hasn't played as well in practice and got knocked back. And

Speaker 15 the best part is he takes full responsibility. Like, there's no fighting it.

Speaker 15 Like, he'll come to me after some practice and say, man, I suck today. I'm going to be better for you tomorrow, coach.
And, and, and first of all, he didn't suck that day.

Speaker 15 He's, that's the first thing.

Speaker 15 But the fact that he thinks that and and uh comes back with such a killer instinct all the time um he's one of one in that regard and uh so competitive and then the other thing is he has a unique ability in game to understand what's required to win and some games it's blocking shots other games it's you know leading us in assists other games it's getting 30 or 40 points uh it's just a feel that i don't think you can teach

Speaker 3 he's fun to watch and it'll throw oops too all over like You know, it's like his handle's absurd. His shot's insane.
He's able to go underneath. He'll bang.

Speaker 3 And the fact that you got two high schoolers leading your team to the final four, congratulations. Congratulations.

Speaker 1 Unbelievable.

Speaker 3 White Mike can coach. Put a whistle around White Mike's neck.
You think you gotta figure it out? D-Bud has a question for you, John.

Speaker 5 Yeah, John, big UConn guy here, UConn alumni. We went through the last couple of tournaments.
Last tournament, pretty dominant. So we didn't have pretty, you know, a lot of close calls.

Speaker 5 You guys haven't had many close calls either. One close, kind of close game with Arizona.

Speaker 1 Does that worry you at all going into this Houston matchup?

Speaker 5 And what are the biggest, I guess, challenges facing this Houston team?

Speaker 15 Well, I think, you know, first of all, when you talk about close games, I think it shows a great killer instinct when, you know, during the game, there's going to be different inflection points where it can either be, you know, you think about Arizona, it was, you know, a seven, eight-point game.

Speaker 15 Alabama, the same thing with about an

Speaker 15 eight-point game with, you know,

Speaker 15 seven, eight minutes to go. To be able to know in those moments to keep your foot on the gas and get separation, I think that's a skill.

Speaker 15 And our team has had that this year. Hopefully we can do that.
But we're fully expecting against Houston. It's going to be a possession by possession kind of game.

Speaker 15 My first year of coaching,

Speaker 15 we get one scrimmage to go against anybody.

Speaker 15 I wanted to scrimmage Houston. And the reason I wanted to scrimmage Houston in year one, I wanted our guys to understand the level of physicality

Speaker 15 a team like them would play play against and the togetherness and the job that Kelvin Sampson does. He's as good as any coach in the country, period.
So the respect we have for them is off the charts.

Speaker 15 We know it's going to be a slower-paced game. We know it's going to be a physical game.

Speaker 15 Still diving into them some. But look, it's their,

Speaker 15 if you look at their analytics statistically, they're as good as any team in the last 10 years of college basketball. They're right there with anybody.
So we're excited.

Speaker 15 We know it's going to be a big-time challenge, and the job they do on defense is off the charts.

Speaker 3 You talk about sampson there obviously he's been around we've seen houston go on many runs um the last school called him kevin i think and uh then their social teams and his name's kelvin and the l is actually the same one he just handed you so they got a little swag down there a little bit of sauce in this entire thing uh espn research pulled this up john just to make you feel young or good um

Speaker 3 Samson and Shire will be on opposing benches in a semifinal. Once Samson began his first season as a D1 head coach in 1987

Speaker 3 at Washington State, Shire was four months old, you So he's got a little experience.

Speaker 3 He's got a little experience on you, but pointing experience. Exactly.
Boston Connor has a question for you, Coach.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Coach, you got that Duke emblem across your chest and it says the Brotherhood above it. What does that kind of mean when

Speaker 2 playing basketball for Duke, all the great players that have played there, including yourself? And will you kind of lean in to the Brotherhood as you get ready for the Final Four?

Speaker 2 Will you reach out to Coach K? Will you kind of talk to some of the guys that have already been through it? Or can you just pull from your own experiences enough?

Speaker 15 No, no, I lean into all that. And, you know, look, I think when you think about the Brotherhood and obviously Coach K is a huge part of that, I've already talked to Coach K first and foremost.

Speaker 15 I mean, he's had. He's only had 13 attempts at, you know, in a final four or 13 experiences.
Besides that, he doesn't know much about being in this environment at all.

Speaker 15 But for me, I'm lucky, you know, as a coach to still have my coach.

Speaker 15 You know, so the fact fact is we talk all the time and I lean on him for a lot, but you think about the Grant Hills of the world and the Shane Badiers and

Speaker 15 Adam Silver, the commissioner of the NBA is a Duke Rat. I mean

Speaker 15 the brotherhood in general to me is the connectivity in the sports world, but especially in basketball is off the charts.

Speaker 15 I think the thing that sets us apart, though, it doesn't matter if you're here for one year or two, three or four, the amount of text that I got from foreign players when when we went to the final four uh the the text throughout the year of just being so invested in what's happening uh to me is off the charts i'm not going to say it's better than anywhere i can't compare it to anywhere else this is all i know uh but the passion to me is is is incredible that i feel from our former guys

Speaker 3 Seems like two young Duke guys are taking over the basketball coaching ranks. You and J.J.
Reddick, obviously massive talking points.

Speaker 3 It's awesome to hear you still talk to Coach K because from the way LeBron talks, JJ is a young Coach K in there as well. So happy to see the Shyszewski pipeline will continue to crush.

Speaker 3 Last question before we have a hard out. We can't thank you enough for joining us here, Coach.

Speaker 3 All focus right now on Houston. Will you also pay attention to the other teams now?

Speaker 3 Are we watching film or is this everything on one game at a time now as opposed to what it was beginning of the tournament?

Speaker 15 I'll let our staff take care of that. For me, it's 100% Houston,

Speaker 15 just like it's been every step of the way, AJ, to your question. It's been what's next, finishing what's right in front of us, and then going from there.

Speaker 3 All right. Well, Coach, good luck.
We can't thank you enough for joining us, man.

Speaker 15 Thank you, fellas. Appreciate you guys.

Speaker 3 You're the best, ladies and gentlemen. Coach Jones shine.

Speaker 3 I'm about,

Speaker 3 you know, I appreciate him coming in and saying, oh, now I've made it. You know, I'm on this show.
I do. I do appreciate that because the guy's in the Final Four.
He's a young lad.

Speaker 3 He had to take over for Coach K at a Duke, you know,

Speaker 3 team that in AJ you watched growing up. Obviously, Debone was in Illinois.
You were in Ohio.

Speaker 3 there's people in pennsylvania the duke brand was the duke brand because their basketball team and he let he started rattling off some of the x's you can start continue those names uh on and on and on it's like it is a brand there is an expectation so he gets dropped in there and just rolls you know like unc very different situations you're right you know what's going on people take it for granted

Speaker 1 go ahead no people take that for granted it's like taking over for nick saban taking over for bill belichick in the nfl bingo people take it for granted that you can just keep that thing rolling and you're right north carolina is is proof.

Speaker 1 It's a lot harder than it looks.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you have to do it your own way. Like, inevitably, you're going to have to do it your own way because you're the one that's going to have to do it every single day.

Speaker 3 And if you don't, you can get left behind. You can get exposed.
You can go from being a tier one blue chipper to mid-level just hoping to have a good year. I mean, that happens.

Speaker 3 And I think, obviously, they have great NIO, I would assume. Duke basketball has great NIO.

Speaker 3 I would assume they have, you know, a leg up on a lot of schools because they are Duke. You know, it is the Brotherhood of of Duke that he is pitching, which I think is a good idea.

Speaker 3 Anytime you get a transition phase, some people like to forget about the past as opposed to embracing the traditions.

Speaker 4 So, him being like the brotherhood, the brotherhood, this is all of us here at Duke, and him being a Duke guy to begin with, I think it's been done beautifully, Tosh Mitt.

Speaker 4 Legitimately, I think they've done it absolutely perfectly over there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, without a doubt.

Speaker 7 And, you know, understanding the added pressure of like, hey, I got to make the most out of this because there's a good chance that a lot of these guys are going to be gone next year.

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Speaker 1 Sports!

Speaker 1 We see, Pat, we see lights and laser shows and everything going on back there. How's everything in the O2 arena right now?

Speaker 3 It's fantastic. At some point, I'm going to have to get up and leave because I'm currently sitting in the audience, and I believe they're going to be opening the doors relatively soon.

Speaker 3 So if I do that, just know that I'll FaceTime in from backstage. But with that being said, all roads have led to the O2.

Speaker 3 There's been a three-week European tour of the WWE here on this glorious road to the WrestleMania. And tonight, for the second show in a row, London will cap off everything.

Speaker 3 And it's going to be electrifying tonight. I believe, and

Speaker 3 I believe there's somebody you can't see. You know, an invisible person that's going to be here.
And I believe there's some other magic in store. And I'll be on a microphone alongside Michael Cole.

Speaker 3 It'll be a dream come true. As you see, Darius J.
Butler there behind Lord O'Stanley Cuff as he is a Florida Panther fan. A.J.
Hawk traveled in from Ohio to stand at that particular desk right there.

Speaker 3 Can't thank both you boys enough. And then on the other side, you got the Toxic Table at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt.
One out of the hammer.

Speaker 3 Cowboys A.P. Tone is there.
And we have some breaking news.

Speaker 1 Oh, oh.

Speaker 3 Ladies and gentlemen,

Speaker 3 Wednesday, April 9th will be a big night.

Speaker 3 in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. And it is

Speaker 3 going to be awesome. The show is coming together perfectly.

Speaker 3 The conversations that I've been able to have with people who want to not only make the show better, but really want to commit to that evening becoming one of the greatest nights in the history of entertainment.

Speaker 3 It sold out in 92 minutes. We all remember that story.

Speaker 3 And it was really cool to experience that. as a whole.
And with the reaction that there was, I thought to myself, there has to be more tickets. There has to be more tickets that we can find.

Speaker 3 And obviously, we had held a portion of tickets because of where we're going to set cameras up and for the view of the stage and for the view of everything.

Speaker 3 You know, can't have people sitting directly behind cameras. But today, we just got done with a meeting, myself, and the folks here at the WWE that are going to be piecing this entire thing together.

Speaker 3 And it turns out we opened up some tickets. And

Speaker 3 I believe with the moving of one thing to the next and moving this to over here, do we need this particular view for one thing? I don't think so. We could probably open up that section, right?

Speaker 3 Don't you think? Yeah, we probably could.

Speaker 3 1,750 tickets will be going on sale on wednesday at noon wow okay uh wednesday at noon we were able to open up 1750 tickets now there was a worry that maybe these wouldn't be able to be in the giveaway zones there was a worry that maybe they'd be have an obstructed view there was a worry that maybe these seats would just have to be covered by some tarps because of the way the presentation of the show was going to go but instead The wizards here at the WWE were able to cook up some magic, some potion, and we were able to open up 1,750 tickets it'll go on sale at the same price uh that the other tickets were on sale for the first time so nobody's getting a better deal because they bought it late if you bought it early obviously uh you will be paying the same you won't be have to pay more than the people that got it later so wednesday at noon one week before big night

Speaker 3 1750 tickets will go up for sale and um it's exciting yeah i'm very very pumped up about it as soon as i found out about it literally an hour before we went live i was like bro got to tell people got to make this announcement I want to sell them as soon as possible because obviously the show is next Wednesday already, AJ, the next Wednesday.

Speaker 3 And going to give away a bunch of money.

Speaker 3 Gonna have some spectacular talents in the building. And hopefully we have a Wednesday night that's talked about forever, AJ Hawk.

Speaker 3 And I know you'll be a part of the show, but just know that there's a chance 1,750 more people could be coming to your party, AJ Hawk.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think that's amazing. I'm sure people will jump on that as soon as they go on sale Wednesday at noon Eastern.

Speaker 1 I was watching actually Debone make this graphic when I showed up earlier today. It was cool to see how the sausage is made, as they say.
It's really cool to see.

Speaker 3 Yeah, D-bone always does,

Speaker 3 you know, D-bone stuff. Stuff.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 3 D-bone trying to figure out what matters on the graphic and what doesn't matter on the graphic is always a fun game. It's always a fun game.

Speaker 3 You know, it's like, hey, yeah, when are they on sale, D-bone? Big part of the, what is the show? Big part of the story here? How many of the tickets? Big part of the story here.

Speaker 3 And D-Bone gets creative. You know, he's an artist.
He does what he's got to do. But in the end, he makes magic.
And that's what we're hoping is Wednesday, April 9th, nothing but magic.

Speaker 3 Few hour show, two hours, two and a half hours, maybe three, depending upon how it all rolls. Show will start at 8 o'clock local.
You know, I think it'll be over by 10.

Speaker 3 They'll be there at 10.30, maybe 11. There's a chance you'd go to work the next day.
You Jensers, you fine Yensers.

Speaker 3 Or if you want to take Thursday off, I believe it's the first day of the Masters golf tournament down there in Augusta. So, you know, everything's pointing up.

Speaker 3 Debuts, you're obviously going to be a part of that particular program. Maybe 1,750 more people are going to come join the evening.

Speaker 5 I cannot wait. I know a few of my friends will definitely already be in the building.
Hopefully, this opens up some space for more of them. But it's going to be crazy.

Speaker 5 It's crazy that it's already here, pretty much just around the corner. And you saying that everything is going perfectly has me feeling great.

Speaker 3 It's a little worrisome.

Speaker 1 Nope, nope, nope. Goodbye.
Yeah,

Speaker 3 been talking about this program for a few years, this show that I want to kind of piece together. And

Speaker 3 a variety show of sorts. You know, there hasn't been one in a long, long time, a variety show.
Dean Martin had one way back in the day. I guess there's been a few others.

Speaker 3 I think award shows were supposed to become the variety shows, but for one reason or another, that didn't really happen. So I'm hoping for a variety show that people

Speaker 3 will hopefully want more of. I think will be a good display of people just coming together to put on a show.
Just put on a show, give away some money. We're going to be streaming it live on YouTube.

Speaker 3 X and TikTok Live. So if you're not one of the 1,750 people that are able to get some of the tickets here on Wednesday, they've just been opened up.

Speaker 3 Literally an hour ago, we figured out more space to get more people in there.

Speaker 3 You'll be able to watch along at home. It's going to be a blast.
Let's go to the talks table at Bus Conner and at Ty Schmidt. Con man, big story in the sports world this weekend was what?

Speaker 2 I mean, I would say the final four. The four one seeds kind of coming together, or rather, the you know, the selection of the final four being kind of fine night now.

Speaker 2 We got all onesies, Duke Houston, then Auburn, and Florida. And I don't know if we have it.
I doubt we do. There was the kind of

Speaker 2 odds of when the team was going to win and who was going to win. Basically, all four of the games were blowouts.

Speaker 1 Are people pissed, Conman? Sorry to cut you off. Are people upset about all the ones making it? I think so,

Speaker 2 because everyone loves the Cinderella, but also I think it's more so, like, especially in the Elite Eight.

Speaker 2 Okay, well, at least it's one versus two, one versus three. Like, we're going to get good games.
None of the games were that good. You know, Houston killed Tennessee yesterday.

Speaker 2 Michigan State kind of made it close, but not really yesterday as well. Florida and Texas Tech, that was the closest one, and Florida had an unbelievable finish.

Speaker 2 And that was great, but the games themselves haven't been that good for the one seed teams. That kind of stunk.
But, you know, the final...

Speaker 2 what three games should be incredible even though Duke is clearly the heavy favorite I don't know if we did talk about it but oh the mentalist has done it again folks on March 20th and I believe we have the video but on March 20th he put together basically his final four

Speaker 2 and also a massive upset from the entire thing, and he revealed it yesterday.

Speaker 14 I said before we started, March 20th, when we sealed it at 115, our bracket buster would be Arkansas beating St.

Speaker 2 John's.

Speaker 14 A two gets taken, bombed down by a 10. I said Florida will beat Texas Tech.
Number one, Duke will beat Alabama. Today, watch.
Houston will beat Tennessee. Auburn will beat MSU.

Speaker 14 Four number one seeds make it for the first time since 2008 in 17 years.

Speaker 1 Mark my word. Wow.

Speaker 14 Second time in tournament history this was sealed at the start of the tournament that's crazy

Speaker 14 every team in the elite age

Speaker 1 on that same envelope and the future is here i don't know this moment oh we can't hold it

Speaker 1 you guys have questions well that's the thing like if you're gonna do something like this and maybe they did do it they they need to show when he closed it or whatever at least a picture from march 20th right when he did but i mean it was notarized i believe notarized aren't they wasn't notarized it was before the last two play though right was it really notarized?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, okay.
I mean, I wasn't accusing Oz of cheating.

Speaker 1 But if I see the first thing I thought of when I see him do this,

Speaker 1 like, why doesn't he monetize this in a gambling way? Like, wouldn't someone come to him and want to say, hey, give me the, let's figure this out. How do you know he didn't? I know.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm wondering. Like, are there some, yeah, I don't know.
I would assume he can make tons of money if there's some people that are going to be able to do it.

Speaker 2 But I assume he's not allowed.

Speaker 1 Talk.

Speaker 5 Probably ethics.

Speaker 1 He could say, oh, it's not ethical or whatever. What do you mean? Like, that's on.

Speaker 1 None of the sports books are going to let him gamble. Not him, but I'm saying people will come to him.

Speaker 2 Because if you were to,

Speaker 2 like, in the world thinking of gambling, if you were to do like a parlay of just the elite eight matchups,

Speaker 2 you could put like a hundred bucks down to probably win like a hundred grand.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like when he was making that thing March 20th, what if one of a big-time whale that can change lines gets in on that?

Speaker 2 Maybe not that much money because it is one seed versus two seeds.

Speaker 1 No, but still, I mean, it hasn't happened in 17 years. The odds would still be pretty.

Speaker 1 yeah damn and plus people like we were talking about earlier in the in the games and people being upset or whatever like ken palm who is like the analytics just guru of all gurus um for college basketball literally in his ranking had the the number one seeds like as the to four of the top 10 teams I believe in the last 20 years or whatever, or all time maybe, as four of the best teams of all time.

Speaker 1 So it's not surprising that they made it here.

Speaker 1 It's also not surprising that the games haven't been that close because, like I said, based off of the analytics, these are four of the best teams that have ever played basketball in college of all time.

Speaker 1 But this is what people are saying. And then we're going to together.
It's a good thing. I don't think people should be bitching about this.

Speaker 1 It is a good thing, but isn't the argument, or at least like the old, the old man stand on my lawn argument that we're not going to see any Cinderella stories anymore?

Speaker 1 Yeah, but only these big schools are going to get it.

Speaker 7 But a lot of times when that happens, like the Cinderella story after the Elite

Speaker 7 or whatever, like those teams get their asses kicked in the final four because you're playing against like the two favorites to win the national national championship so hopefully we will get you know some more competitive games like Connor said like all these games this past weekend with the exception of Texas Tech and Florida kind of stunk so hopefully these final four games are a little bit closer but I mean the Cinderellas are fun early but you know like you

Speaker 7 I don't really care about seeing like a 13 seed playing Duke and getting beat by 40 in the final four.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think the old man argument now is like, hey, they're paying for their, you know, championships. Like the NIL thing is now what the old man.
You still got to make the plays, though.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Yeah.
You still got to make the shots.

Speaker 2 Like I saw some people were mad about Auburn's starting five because they're all the oldest.

Speaker 1 They're all

Speaker 2 old as hell, you know, and I saw people upset about that. And then I saw another thing.
I think it was earlier.

Speaker 2 I think it was before the weekend started on Thursday where it kind of showed, you know, where all of the team's players started in college and then where they are now.

Speaker 2 Like the FAU team that was kind of one of the last Cinderellas to go all the way to the Final Four, they were like a nine-seed.

Speaker 2 Three of their five starters were on different teams that were then in the Sweet 16, you know, so it's it's one of those things.

Speaker 2 Like I believe Florida, one of their guards is from FAU from their Cinderella run. So I think like

Speaker 2 yeah, Iona like the old man yelling at the, you know, no Cinderella's, it's turned into

Speaker 1 go get one-year deals and go play for the school.

Speaker 2 They're playing for money and they got no loyalty because they're leaving their school.

Speaker 1 Why wouldn't you have any loyalty?

Speaker 1 Hey, hey, we'll give you 1.8, come over here, and you're going to a great team with a great opportunity.

Speaker 1 How can you blame a player? It's better for your life.

Speaker 2 Like, if you think that the kid who is now playing in the Final Four again for Florida, the point guard, would have been

Speaker 2 just the same as how he would have been if he stayed at FAU. Like, he's trying to make his life better, not just be a guy that was on a Cinderella team.

Speaker 2 It's like, hey, now I'm playing on one of the top eight teams in the history of college basketball.

Speaker 2 Like, that matters for the kid's future, let alone, you know, know, his immediate happiness winning and playing good basketball.

Speaker 7 And they try to bitch about like student athlete, like he's still going to graduate from Florida with a degree.

Speaker 7 So it's like, you know, I mean, if you're, if you can get a bag and then also get a degree with it, like there, there really is no, you know, there's no reason to get pissed off about it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, I mean, and Walter Clayton, who Florida's point guard or whatever, who came over from Iona, like.

Speaker 1 The exposure that he's getting because of this and the two threes that he hit at the end of this game and then the three that he hit at the end of the Sweet 16 game, like his drafts, he's making money

Speaker 1 every single one of these shots because down the stretch, he has just been ice cold and hasn't missed like him making all these shots. He's not making these at Iona.

Speaker 1 Like he is making them at Iona, but it's not seen as much and his draft stock is just skyrocketing. Comparing him to Steph? Yeah.
So Jay Wolf, yeah, comparing him to Steph, basically how, obviously,

Speaker 5 Steph will be the peak and

Speaker 5 all-time great at what he does. But, you know, those type of shots, like, kind of looks like Steph.
Remember, Steph got introduced to kind of the world March Madness Davidson mid-major.

Speaker 5 So it is, it kind of sucks that you won't have those stores. And, you know, but it is just the nature of the business.
Even on the women's side, you know, Van Lith, she's on her third team. And the

Speaker 5 third team, she's been to at least the Elite Eight. So you'll see this more and more on both sides of the college landscape when it comes to basketball.

Speaker 5 You know, fortunately or unfortunately, depending on how you look at it.

Speaker 7 I think we'll still get them here and there, too, but we won't ever get like another butler where it's like you have a mid-major that like goes to two final fours in a row.

Speaker 7 Like there are still teams that can go deep, but then after they have a deep run in the tournament, all those guys are going to get plucked by high majors and go elsewhere.

Speaker 7 So I think there's still a chance that we're going to get a couple of these Cinderellas. Like we saw it happen this year with Drake.

Speaker 7 They were an 11 seed. They won in the first round, but then immediately their coach leaves and all their players leave.
That's what's going to happen.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I believe Pat may be joining us from the bows of the OT Arena.
Here he is. What's up, Pat?

Speaker 6 Hi, Ads. How are you doing? It is great to be back with you here.
I literally came through a secret door to get back here, where I'm at. It's a great room.
It's very peaceful.

Speaker 6 But back to your point, I don't know if you guys have these stats. Tembo sent these over.
Should the starting lineups remain the same? Is this a stat you guys have already talked about?

Speaker 6 No.

Speaker 6 Okay, should the starting lineups remain the same? Eight of 10 starters in Florida, Auburn will have started their careers at different schools.

Speaker 6 The only ones that didn't are Alex Condon at Florida and Dylan Cardwell at Auburn. Auburn starts five seniors.

Speaker 6 Their seniors have played 677 minutes in the NCAA tournament, most by any team ever entering the Final Four. So we still have some seniors, but you're right.

Speaker 6 If you're good at all or showcase any talent at any school, there's a chance you're going to get plucked the hell out of there. I mean, that is just the real world nowadays.

Speaker 6 And hopefully, you know, schools like West Virginia are the ones doing the plucking, but it feels like we're potentially a part of the problem. It feels

Speaker 6 we're going to be the ones getting plucked, you know, after DeVries leaves, after not even making the NIT.

Speaker 6 And you talked about McCalvum and all his guys leaving. It's like, it's a fascinating,

Speaker 6 it's a very fascinating state for college basketball because I don't know why Cinderella's wouldn't exist. I just don't think Cinderella's would exist for multiple years, you know.

Speaker 6 Like if a Cinderella shows up, that shoe that she was wearing until midnight, that shit's getting stolen by another school immediately.

Speaker 5 yeah i mean that's just like oh yeah you had a good little audition there in march uh now guess what you're doing you're coming to our school that's kind of how i see it going but maybe not maybe all the good talent's gonna end up at a high-end high school anyways yeah because with those cinderella at least from what i can remember watching the game it's like those guys typically they're going to run with like their best players are like maybe juniors or sophomores like the big like the dukes of the world these big time these guys come in the derrick queens are up they come in hit the ground running like these cinderella teams these smaller schools mid-majors it usually takes their guys a little bit longer to develop and then as soon like you said as soon as they pop onto the national scene they're going for football even football you know you have a i have a good year at uconn you know took my sophomore year i'm probably going to um like that so the cinderella those kind of stories that's kind of why i see it going away and fading away and march madness when we all become college football basketball fans, it kind of sucks that those stories probably will be going away.

Speaker 5 But yeah, this money plucking away, you can't can't blame the kids for going and chasing greener pastures. But that Jeff Goodman tweet that popped up there when we were talking, that was insane.

Speaker 5 Like that number of players that entered a portal in the last, what do you say, today?

Speaker 6 1,700 or whatever it was. 1,390.

Speaker 1 1,259.

Speaker 5 1,359 D1 men's basketball players entered a portal since it opened.

Speaker 1 It's only Monday. There's only, what, max 15 players? Usually 12 on a team? Yeah.
Wow.

Speaker 6 Yeah. And that happened in football.
Remember, that happened in football a little bit at the beginning. People were like, hey, you're asking to go to the portal.

Speaker 6 You're asking me to stay in the portal.

Speaker 6 You know, that is not everybody has opportunity, but you talk about popping off on the national scene a little bit and then hitting this portal and then hopefully getting somewhere.

Speaker 6 That's why teams aren't doing spring games anymore.

Speaker 6 Teams are scared to do spring games. They're scared to do spring games because if anybody does great in a spring game, they have to be a second stringer, third stringer.

Speaker 6 They're gone by the time fall comes around. I mean, it's over.
Like, I obviously have a chance to chat with more coaches now that we've been in the college football world here for the last few years.

Speaker 6 And it's like, Rich Rodriguez is trying to figure out what the hell to do. Matt Rule is trying to figure out what to do.

Speaker 6 All these schools are like, why in the fuck would we have a spring game where we're declaring a first string, second string, third string, fourth string?

Speaker 6 So now our third stringer knows he's not a starter right now, but he might be a starter in the fall, but right now he isn't. So he might be like, well, I'm not even going to play here.

Speaker 6 I'll go somewhere else. And then if you do well in the spring game, it's like every other place is like, who's that guy?

Speaker 1 Who's Who's that?

Speaker 6 It's a, it is, I think spring game is

Speaker 6 dead and gone.

Speaker 1 Everyone's doing like a spring celebration or something. They're trying to figure out what exactly they're doing, but they're not going to be playing football against each other, it sounds like.

Speaker 5 Coach Prime's trying to.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they might.

Speaker 1 Sorry, go ahead, Pat. Go ahead.

Speaker 6 No, Debux, what you were saying there is 100% accurate.

Speaker 6 Coach Prime wants joint practices, but if those are going to be on TV, and I guess Coach Prime has a lot of confidence in his guys not leaving, and congrats to him getting that new extension, $54 million.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 6 i mean that is because remember just a few years ago colorado didn't even know if they were going to be able to pay his original contract they said we don't have enough money to pay his current 30 million dollar contract we assume he'll be able to make that happen which he did he absolutely did and created a brand and a name but it's like anything you're doing on tv with any of these guys there's a chance that you're just showcasing them to somebody else who might have more money and it's like how much of that game do you want to dance with how much of that and that's why you're seeing all these teams they're doing showcases for the fans because they want the fans to be around and you know, we'll do some gimmick shit.

Speaker 6 But like playing football, declaring a first stringer, second stringer, and a third stringer, it's like, no way, no way. And now the transfer portal window in basketball has to change.
That's stupid.

Speaker 6 And it's right in the middle of the tournament. I don't know how that even becomes a decision, AJ.

Speaker 6 I don't even know how that's made that way, you know, because we experienced in the fall with a college football playoff that there was a transfer window and guys were getting in it, but then we were like, well, just move it till after.

Speaker 6 And they're like, spring semester, they have to enroll, yada, yada, yada.

Speaker 6 It's like, well, how come football's spring window is in April, something, late, mid-April, late April, and your guys's has to be in March?

Speaker 6 Aren't they both enrolling for the same school? That feels stupid by itself, AJ.

Speaker 1 Yeah, are they trying to say we have to make it now to

Speaker 1 protect or give guys that aren't in the NCA tournament or aren't making deep runs in the tournament a chance to get in the portal and get to another team? Like, what's the reason?

Speaker 6 I have no idea. I have no idea.
There's dominant decisions made speaking of decisions being being made um

Speaker 6 what was rap being so uh auspicious about whenever he was talking about those votes what was he like you hear him how do you what do you mean exactly

Speaker 1 i don't know if i said the word right there is that a word auspicious yeah yep yeah

Speaker 6 I think what it means is like he was like, some of these votes,

Speaker 6 maybe tomorrow, maybe today.

Speaker 1 What is the day I think?

Speaker 1 I think he just didn't know. Really?

Speaker 6 You think he didn't know? Okay, I didn't know if all these were actually getting voted on or if they're just being discussed.

Speaker 2 Well, wasn't it last year where it was kind of up in the year when they were voting on some stuff?

Speaker 2 Like sometimes, if it was like, hey, we're close on a certain thing and we might have a certain amount of votes, they're like, why don't we just completely vote for this tomorrow to try and kind of swing, like the Frank Underwood type thing.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 1 choose when they make the votes.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's what I thought, if I remembered it correctly, that when we were down there, there was kind of some sort of like toss-up of when the actual votes were.

Speaker 1 Goodell has, I can't remember what it was they voted on last year.

Speaker 1 It might have been the kickoff rule or whatever, but they had the meeting, and they could tell, like, maybe they were two or three votes short. And then, you know,

Speaker 1 Goodell had to go that night to have some cocktails with a few more calls so that he knows he knows. The lobbying.
Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 6 Yeah, brother. There's real lobbying.

Speaker 6 Remember, this new dynamic kickoff that we currently have is strictly because, I don't know if it was Roger Goodell, but somebody in the NFL was like, hey, you're going to have no more kickoff anymore.

Speaker 6 So figure it the hell out. Like literally, that was like the conversation around it all.

Speaker 6 And then they get to this new dynamic kickoff and some teams are like, we're not doing this two lines of scrimmage thing, yada, yada, yada. We're not doing that.

Speaker 6 And they're like, well, it's either that or it's nothing at all. And then they're like talking at night, shaking hands, earning up votes.

Speaker 6 You know, Riz, Coach Riz, had to go earn votes for this kickoff whenever he was the, now he's with the Broncos. He was then at the time with the Saints.

Speaker 6 It's like there's a lot of working going on down at these league meetings, and it's a lot of it's like, hey, I'm better for the game. I'm saving the game.
This is better for the game.

Speaker 6 But that tush-push thing, it feels like it's over. Yeah.
It does. And maybe they'll delay till May to do that, but it feels like, I don't know, more injury people coming out against the music.

Speaker 1 I think they don't really have any data to back it up or whatever, but saying the potential injury risk from this play.

Speaker 1 But defenders, correct me, Pat, if I'm a linebacker, I can push my D-linem, right, on this play?

Speaker 6 I don't know. Yeah, is it just a special teams play? You're not allowed to? I don't know.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what I'm wondering. Like, if

Speaker 1 I should, if I'm a defender, I should be able to push my D-lineman.

Speaker 1 If you can push your quarterback, obviously, in this play, I understand the extra point and field goal is different, but you're right. This feels like it is going to get taken away.

Speaker 1 I don't think it should. I don't know.
I mean, just figure it out. Find a way to stop it.
Figure a way out. Run it on offense.

Speaker 2 Change it just to one guy being able to push.

Speaker 2 Because that's what some of the teams do. Like, I know that's what the Packers did with Jordan Love.
That's what, you know, Josh Allen and the Bills do. Like, they could easily keep it around.

Speaker 2 Or if they just say, you know, you have to have some sort of, I don't know, like a declaration that you can't run them or you can't throw the ball. Because that's another thing with the tush push.

Speaker 1 Is like, hey, they might, they might fish push. They might focus.

Speaker 2 Like, if it's something like that, I don't know. But I would rather see it stay in the game than just completely ban it.

Speaker 1 It's innovation. Can't put innovation.

Speaker 6 I was talking to there's a lot of Eagles fans that work for the WWE.

Speaker 6 So this morning when I get to the arena here and I'm sitting down, all of them just right on over.

Speaker 6 NFL is trying to screw Philadelphia Eagles. And I said, what's that? You guys are Super Bowl champs.
What do you mean? You go banning Tushbush because we're better than everybody.

Speaker 6 Is that why we're banning Tushbush? I thought football is supposed to be tough. I thought you guys were supposed to be tough.
That's how these Eagles fans

Speaker 6 literally

Speaker 1 have a point.

Speaker 6 Yeah, this is just in the wrestling world.

Speaker 6 i assume in the rest of the world as well eagles fans are feeling the same way so so we're tougher than you and you guys want to stop that okay okay and then you know the your thought about the the thought of potential injury that's a hilarious argument yeah but when you watch it you can see their heads are down

Speaker 1 we could have a neck injury yeah why don't you watch any play that ever happens ever in the nfl and there's potential injury risk everywhere you look it doesn't matter.

Speaker 6 I think another big topic of conversation here is they're paying Jalen Hurts 50 million a year, 51, I think. Jalen Hurts could easily be a quarterback that says, I'm not doing this.

Speaker 1 No way.

Speaker 6 Like there's a lot of very rich quarterbacks that would never do this, never allow this to happen. Because, I mean, they're potentially setting themselves up to literally get anti-ant.

Speaker 6 Like that is the chance.

Speaker 6 Like quarterbacks think it's always going to be tough on the quarterback, but let alone whenever there's 600 pounds of pressure being pushed off your ass cheeks while everybody else is doing the opposite.

Speaker 6 Like Jalen Hurts saying, I'm cool with it. I'm cool with it.
Now, granted, their offensive line also saying they're cool with it is a whole thing.

Speaker 6 But like, I think that's something that not every quarterback is willing to be cool with either, you know?

Speaker 5 Yeah, not, you know, not every quarterback is squad 900 pounds. And when Jalen Hurts retired, he'll probably have 90 rushing touchdowns to go on his resume.
And obviously, it helps the team win, too.

Speaker 5 And obviously, Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 1 How do you stop it, D-Butt for real? How do I stop it?

Speaker 5 We've seen enough to, you can't. It's one of those things you just can't stop with the Eagles.
And that's their argument. Like, okay, everybody has the same rules.

Speaker 5 Like, Jalen Hurts isn't the only big, strong quarterback in the league. This isn't the only big physical offensive line in the league.
Everyone has the same rules.

Speaker 5 The Buffalo Bills, they were great at it with Josh Allen for most of the season. I think the Chiefs were probably the only team that consistently.

Speaker 1 How did the Bills do it?

Speaker 6 How did the How did the Bills do it? Because there was people calling just regular quarterback sneaks tush pushes.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah, they do. And I think there was people, I think there was people confused about which push was being pushed.

Speaker 6 Like, I think people thought like offensive lineman's pushes getting pushed by the quarterback is a tush push.

Speaker 6 It's like, no, the tush that's being pushed that's currently being talked about is the quarterback's push getting pushed by a couple different hands of guys that have big tushes.

Speaker 6 So then it's a big old push on one push that's going into other pushes. I think that is something that also is kind of hard to like a regular quarterback sneak is not a tush push.
No. You know?

Speaker 1 But Josh,

Speaker 1 they did it. Yeah.
They did it with one guy. Josh did it.

Speaker 5 And they usually try to find like one of the guards. They typically go over the guards.
Like Hurts can go over a guard, but a lot of time he was going right over that center.

Speaker 5 I feel like Josh Allen goes over a guard more. And like you can see right here, it's usually one guy pushing him, but that's a

Speaker 5 big, strong, son of bitch. At quarterback, I think it definitely starts there.
And to your point, some quarterbacks, Mahomes hasn't done a quarterback sneak in, what, like two, three years now?

Speaker 1 So a certain quarterback

Speaker 5 who just isn't going to do it or aren't going to do it at all. Tom Brady, he was the best quarterback sneaker of his generation, multiple generations that he played.

Speaker 5 So he was innovative and found a way to just once he saw the gap and got up, he can do it for two, three yards at a time. So it's going to be interesting to see how this really unfolds.

Speaker 5 But I think the Eagles fans and Eagles team, more importantly, has an argument where it shouldn't be banned.

Speaker 2 Well, Brady, too, like the thing, the reason Brady was so good at it was that they were under center every single play.

Speaker 2 Like the Eagles and the Bills, they're not under center every single play, so there isn't that like element of surprise.

Speaker 2 Like on a fourth and one, I don't think it was guaranteed that Brady was going to do a QB sneak, but if it was there, he would

Speaker 1 get up open. I'm going to do it.
Yeah, I'm like

Speaker 2 with the Eagles, it's a guarantee on fourth and one that they're doing this, you know, and I think that's why Brady was so good at it.

Speaker 2 And when it comes to just like stopping it in general, the only guy that's consistently been able to do it is Vita Vea.

Speaker 2 And so you would wonder if that 464-pound pound guy from Florida like legitimately becomes a

Speaker 2 higher pick because of the fact that so many teams are doing touch pushes now that a guy like that will be able to stop it.

Speaker 6 That'd be crazy. Especially if this ends up surviving this rule change thing here, more people are going to want to be able to figure out how to do it.

Speaker 6 Like if this survives this owner's meeting and it survives May and it's in this in for next year, teams will do just like you said with the Chiefs. They had a tight end and come in and take it, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Take the snap.

Speaker 6 I think it was

Speaker 2 Noah Gray.

Speaker 1 The Packers had

Speaker 7 Tucker Kraft do it. Yep.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it's like instead of your quarterback getting in the middle of the 600-pound kind of scrum, maybe have somebody else do it. It's like, I wonder how many people are in the

Speaker 6 I wonder how many people are in the room talking about that.

Speaker 1 Okay, so we want D Packles to end up taking snaps, and then they're getting two people on their like give it to Vita Veavea I mean that's probably the next iteration of this thing if I had to guess has to be yeah and I mean think about giving taking a snap in Vita Vea what if he's you're pushing that dude yeah he's downhill exactly I don't know how you stop it defensively you when guys leave their feet like the second level and you jump over top like that's useless at the time

Speaker 1 it's just when they if they if you don't have three guys in the like in the center in angle and get a complete jump on the snap and like chop these guys down before they even get underneath you, like the offensive line.

Speaker 1 You have no chance. It's just not going to happen.

Speaker 2 And that's what the commanders tried to do. And then basically the refs had to come out because, what was it, four?

Speaker 1 You see, guys going sideways, the Chiefs there. You had a guy lined up.
But that's when Jones. That's why Chris Jones got hurt.
Yeah, that's when Chris Jones got hurt. Yeah, bingo.

Speaker 1 I mean, good luck.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 6 I'm happy I don't play defense.

Speaker 6 You know, just in general.

Speaker 6 But Sirian needs to come out and run that play 50 straight times in a game. And especially if he he gets his thing passed, I don't know how his offensive line will be able to stand up afterwards.

Speaker 6 But if

Speaker 6 they run this first down, second down, third down, all the way down the field and score a touchdown, I think then a message will be sent that we're better than you are.

Speaker 6 Congrats to the Bills and Christian Benford on a four-year $76 million deal. Did we know these types of deals were still coming at this stage of the offseason?

Speaker 1 Nope, no.

Speaker 5 Did not.

Speaker 6 Legitimately, Bean is out there just cooking over there. You know,

Speaker 6 we talked to Ted Karris the other day, and he was like, the salary cap, some teams don't have it.

Speaker 6 I don't know how that goes, but it's like the Buffalo Bills had to move on from their previous team of all the OGs and all the people because they couldn't pay everybody because they just paid Josh Allen.

Speaker 6 They repaid Josh, and then they're still paying. everybody over there.
Brandon Bean's obviously in it to win it. And congratulations to Christian Benford.
I don't think I know much about about him.

Speaker 6 Debut, four years, $76 million. How you doing? Keep it moving.

Speaker 5 Benford is an absolute dog. I think he'd be a little more mainstream if he had a different number.

Speaker 1 447, 44, 47, 47.

Speaker 1 It throws people off out there at the corner for sure.

Speaker 5 I'm sure some type of sentimental meaning probably behind that number, but he's a phenomenal player, fantastic player.

Speaker 5 He got banged up last year, had a concussion, and then came back, I think, too early. I don't think he should have been out there and then got banged up again.
So he didn't end his year.

Speaker 5 Great, Great, but he's been a great pickup for them. This is a great, great deal, I think, for Buffalo as well as far as value.

Speaker 5 That's coming in at under $20 million when you saw what the cornerback market did this offseason for them to lock him up.

Speaker 5 And I think maybe this could have something to do with the contract talks, at least reportedly falling through with James Cook. You know, James Cook obviously wants his money.

Speaker 5 We saw him commenting on the Saquon deal. And then I think Brandon Bean talked about, hey, we had some extension talks, which kind of stopped.

Speaker 5 So it'll be interesting to see maybe he's the odd man left out.

Speaker 5 But this is a great value, I think, for both sides for Benford and the Buffalo Bills locking up their young star cornerback for the next four years.

Speaker 6 How about Brandon Bean going all in, seemingly? That's got to be scary for the AFC East Con man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know about that.

Speaker 2 They definitely are

Speaker 2 latching their wagons, but I don't know if it's scary. The salary cap thing that, you know, doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 2 And we talked about a little before the show with, you know, Lamar Jackson is when you pay a quarterback more money today, you save more money tomorrow.

Speaker 2 Like, that is why I assume the Cap Hits, you know, they're able to do it because they gave Josh Allen $330 million. But also, I feel like there has been a lot of,

Speaker 2 you know, games being reported when it comes to these numbers. Like, we talked about how when Mahomes got his deal, it was, you know, 10 years, 500 million.

Speaker 2 And then we come to find out it was really period, period, period that was the reporting matter of fact and then and then journalism journalism yeah it was really you know 10 years or or eight years you know 400 million with all these crazy numbers and then even now with the guarantees we see like well the guarantees include injury guarantees which aren't real guarantees they are you know very specific uh things that add to the numbers so absolutely it's great you know it being reported as 76 million but who knows what that is because even with the stefon diggs thing the Stefan Diggs was a contract was reported as you know, three years, $69 million with

Speaker 2 $26 million guaranteed. And then we come to find out yesterday, it's really like a one-year, $16 million guaranteed deal.

Speaker 2 So as much money is being thrown out, and it is great that everyone is making so much money. The salary cap thing will just never make sense, no matter what, for the rest of the time.

Speaker 2 But it does feel like the Josh quarterbacks getting paid, you know, immediately just helps the teams, you know, all around.

Speaker 2 Like even with the Lamar extension talks, like I assume Ronnie Stanley, their left tackle, going back to Baltimore, kind of did have or will have something to do with the fact that Lamar is going to sign, you know, a massive extension that inevitably is going to help the Ravens, you know, pay a bunch of guys over the next few years.

Speaker 6 Yeah, they'll be able to kick Stan down the road. That's the Fon Diggs update is fascinating because the teams do it okay with the massive number being, you know, marketed.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah, we're paying guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're paying guys. And at the end of the day, we're paying $10 million less than that actually in real life.
It's like league looks good.

Speaker 6 Player is the only one that seemingly doesn't benefit from that. So I think insiders are okay getting that information and then reporting it.
And also,

Speaker 6 where's the transparency come from? Who knows? Let's talk about being transparent. Did you see what Oz did on March 20th?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah,

Speaker 1 while you were doing the walk, we ran the thing and started talking about it a little bit. Wow, shoot.

Speaker 5 Insane.

Speaker 6 Demon.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just,

Speaker 1 I don't know how many of you. How? Go ahead.
No, like,

Speaker 1 how?

Speaker 1 What is happening? He continues to predict the future over and over again.

Speaker 6 I don't know.

Speaker 10 I don't think.

Speaker 1 I think he's a demon.

Speaker 6 He popped up out of nowhere, too. Did he pop up out of nowhere too, kind of?

Speaker 1 Shefty pulled him out of nowhere. Remember? Shefty's like his manager that took him around.
Yeah, from the depths of hell is where he pulled him out of nowhere.

Speaker 6 Yeah,

Speaker 6 well, potentially. That's what I'm saying here.
So, like,

Speaker 6 this guy just pops up out of nowhere in our world, and then he just starts predicting everything. I think I'm frozen.
I don't know if I'm still here. You're good.

Speaker 1 You're good.

Speaker 6 Am I still here? Yeah, you're good.

Speaker 6 Anyways, this dude

Speaker 6 pops up out of nowhere and just starts doing this. Wow, I don't know.
None of it makes sense to me. Oz is a demon.
I genuinely believe Oz is an actual demon. Happy you guys talked about that.

Speaker 6 Okay, let's stay in the basketball world, but go to the professional one. How about the Detroit Pistons just trying to make make them out in the palace every single night?

Speaker 1 What's going on, Foxy?

Speaker 8 That's just Beef Stew football, Pat.

Speaker 8 Whenever the Detroit Pistons are good, they have a guy that all he does is he grabs rebounds and he fights people.

Speaker 8 If you go back to the bad boys, Bill Lambert, if you go back to the 04 Pistons, Ben Wallace, and now we have Beef Stew, and he will fight anyone.

Speaker 8 If you guys remember his marquee fight, he chased down LeBron James and even tried to fight him. I think he's the only person in NBA history to do that.
That's just Beef Stew football.

Speaker 1 Did we have the video? Yeah, we pulled me off the video. It was a real fight.
I wasn't.

Speaker 1 It was a real legit situation.

Speaker 5 I don't want to be called

Speaker 5 compared Beef Stew to Ben Wallace.

Speaker 1 I agree.

Speaker 5 I agree. I know what you're saying, but Ben Wallace

Speaker 5 and Defensive Player of the Year. This is all, I mean,

Speaker 6 DiVincenzo getting a little soft. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 DiVincenzo's adult.

Speaker 1 Cameraman getting crushed now.

Speaker 1 What do you do if you have

Speaker 1 a front row right there and you're getting stomped?

Speaker 2 He's What are you going to do?

Speaker 7 You punch yourself.

Speaker 2 I think you're doing this one here.

Speaker 6 I think you're doing this one.

Speaker 1 The foot, hand, leg thing. Like you're doing jiu-jitsu on your back.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Or like,

Speaker 6 yeah, you are in full guard. Just like what you do whenever, you know, a plane is about to crash.
You know, you just, you put your legs out like this.

Speaker 1 Knees up against your feet. And then

Speaker 6 you stop it all. You know, you stop it all by doing that.
Yeah. Real scrap.
Real surprise. It's the pistons.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 real surprise.

Speaker 1 I love it.

Speaker 6 I think it's good.

Speaker 8 Guess who we're coming for in the playoffs right now? Right now, it's Pistons Pacers, baby. And I know the Pacers don't got a dog like Beefs do.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm doing. Oh, yeah, they do.

Speaker 1 Guarantee it. They do.
Oh. Okay.
To watch Flash. Did you say we, Deebots?

Speaker 5 It slipped.

Speaker 1 I'm in Indy right now.

Speaker 16 D-Botch has been out there as a casual. Drop the heat.

Speaker 5 I would never drop the heat, all right? Never. Even when

Speaker 1 I'm still watching the show.

Speaker 5 Boy, it called me a casual because I asked Foxy last night on X, like, what else does Beef Stew do

Speaker 5 besides beef? And people sent me a few highlights and told me he's a top 10 rim protector.

Speaker 5 Hey, look, I love physical guys who set the tone, but literally every time I see 28 since chasing down LeBron, I've been seeing him do the same thing. We all love dogs.

Speaker 5 Maybe get with Dan Campbell and see if he can help the Lions

Speaker 1 off the edge or a tight end.

Speaker 5 Yeah, he's a dog.

Speaker 1 I like Dan Beef, too.

Speaker 6 Me too. And if his only job is to fight people, I'm cool with it too.

Speaker 6 I'm cool with that. I like that type of mentality in it all.
What else is going around the NBA?

Speaker 2 The biggest thing was that the Memphis Grizzlies were the number four overall team in the West when they fired their coach a couple weeks before the playoffs started.

Speaker 2 Made no sense.

Speaker 2 There were some reports, and I don't know if they were like Sean's reports or just internet reports, but that, you know, the offensive system Jaw didn't like, but that doesn't really make any sense because he's not like a new head coach there.

Speaker 2 He's been there for a little while, so that kind of blew the West wide open as far as the middle of the pack goes. So, who knows what happens with the Grizzlies?

Speaker 2 One of their players actually got asked about it, and he said he thought that it was an NBA Centel report, not a real report. But no, he got fired.

Speaker 2 And then in the east and the west, it's still kind of Cavs and OKC running the show.

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Speaker 6 And Ty, in baseball, the only thing that happened is that you Yankees are cheaters. Is that what everybody talks about? What are some other storylines other than the Yankees are cheating with

Speaker 6 their wood?

Speaker 7 So, yeah, I mean, cheating, you could say you could just outsmart in the competition would also be one way to say it.

Speaker 7 The Dodgers are 5-0. They continue to kind of just beat the piss out of everybody.
And the Padres, the Dads are also undefeated. They swept the Braves.
Braves are supposed to be very good this year.

Speaker 1 Reds are good again, uh, yeah, sure, sure.

Speaker 6 Had a good opening day parade, yeah.

Speaker 7 Had a good opening day parade, Teddy, Teddy Karis talked about how great it was, and then unfortunately for you guys, the uh, the Pirates

Speaker 1 of No, they

Speaker 7 don't know if you want to call it bad luck, bad bullpen, which we know they have.

Speaker 7 They were walked off, what, two out of three, three out of three, um, which is like the first time it's happened since, yeah, 1924. And surprise, that was the 1924 Pirates that happened as well.

Speaker 7 The team won a World Series, though. They did.

Speaker 1 And it's funny, too.

Speaker 7 They're asking guys in the locker room, like, hey, how do you respond to this? Obviously,

Speaker 7 it's a fucking 162-game season, so no one's going crazy after losing three games. But one of their pitchers basically said, like, you know, how do you respond to something like this happening?

Speaker 7 Three heartbreaking losses to start the season. He basically was just like, fuck it.
It's a long season.

Speaker 1 Move past it.

Speaker 7 We'll figure it out eventually.

Speaker 6 Yeah, hopefully. You know,

Speaker 6 maybe that's a sign they should sell it to.

Speaker 1 Could be.

Speaker 6 Maybe that's the baseball god saying, hey, excuse me, you need a little bit something different going on. You're like, walked off every game thus far.

Speaker 6 And obviously, Paul Skeens is the future of baseball. Happy that the Buccos are back in record-breaking conversations, even if it's not great.
Let's go to hockey now. OV scoring, huh?

Speaker 6 We're five goals away, Nikki Skates. This guy's going to get it.

Speaker 1 Five goals away.

Speaker 13 This one, not his prettiest, uh, down in big to Buffalo, but he gets a tip in front. Not really what he's known for.

Speaker 13 He's known for setting up in his office up top on a power play and sniping goals, but he can do it down front, get a little dirty, greasy goal.

Speaker 13 But he's getting it done any way he can, and it sure feels like he's gonna get this done before the end of the season.

Speaker 1 Was that a was that Ovie Bands a Maker dance video reel? Anyone else? Yes, oh, yeah, that's real. Oh, yeah, loved it.
That's awesome.

Speaker 6 Once again, once again, that's George Foster,

Speaker 6 worthy of a follow. George Foster on X.
He is a former teammate of mine, longtime NFL offensive lineman, phenomenal Twitter user, phenomenal X user. And to be clear, when I saw this video,

Speaker 6 I did not know enough about OB's game. I had no idea that we were bands of maker dance.
Every game, seemingly, they had them in different eras, different uniforms, different buildings.

Speaker 6 I think he's just trying to make them dance out there. And I'll tell you what, five goals to go.
This record's been intact since 1999. I looked this up.

Speaker 6 Obviously, almost 30 years. Nobody thought it was going to get done.
And the fact that Ovi was hurt this year and still has the chance to catch this, five goals, nine games.

Speaker 6 Very easy stuff for Ovechkin, even though it sounds incredibly difficult, especially with the way this year has been going for the Caps. Caps still leading the East, Nick?

Speaker 13 Yeah, they are record-wise the best team, sorry, second-best team currently in the league, but definitely leading the East with 103 points.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 6 Good year to be a Caps fan. Congrats to them.
And then Chet Hanks.

Speaker 6 I'm just seeing this.

Speaker 6 Is that a new song? Chet Hanks?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I don't know if you can call it a new song. You can call it a new anthem, perhaps, because in about a week's time, the president might change the entire country because of this song.

Speaker 2 Him and actually Tom makes an appearance.

Speaker 2 It's Chet kind of dressing up as a few of Tom's roles.

Speaker 1 And let me just tell you, look,

Speaker 2 I'm not joking. It's catchy tune.

Speaker 1 It's a bomb. It is actually a good song.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 this is not a joke.

Speaker 2 This is a real song. This isn't like the Bring the Boom.
We Bring the Boom to You.

Speaker 1 It's not like

Speaker 1 Bring the Boom to You is only like, you know, a minute and a half

Speaker 2 minutes. And this is Chet Hanks

Speaker 2 legitimately starting a music career that has

Speaker 1 some kind of like like Leangelo Boss is just a moment. He's a real tweaker.
Have you seen him? He's in that running point, the show.

Speaker 1 He's legit. The judge.
He's a very big role with it. I don't know if any of you have seen that, that running point with Kate Hudson.
It's good. Chet Hanks is a big part of that show.
Yeah, he's legit.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah, and people will say, you know, Chet Hanks is an Epo baby, and obviously when you grow up in the industry, you're going to be good at it. Who cares? Who cares?

Speaker 6 There's nothing Chet can do about it.

Speaker 6 Why? All he could do is

Speaker 1 do his thing.

Speaker 1 The The fact that he,

Speaker 1 yeah,

Speaker 6 him putting out a song that is a banger by what you guys are saying,

Speaker 6 absolutely hysterical. And then obviously big news around the sports world.
Four number ones are the final four in this year's March Madness college basketball tournament.

Speaker 6 And the SEC will have a national champion contender. Florida takes on Auburn.
Duke taking on Houston.

Speaker 6 Duke, really, the only team out of the ACC, which is historically a great basketball team, our basketball conference. Who cares?

Speaker 6 If they end up winning the natty and the ACC wins a national championship, that'll be the only thing that is talked about.

Speaker 6 This Florida team has had a couple close dances, favored by two and a half against a very good Auburn squad.

Speaker 6 And then Kelvin Sampson leading that Houston team, which is a grind and pine style basketball team against Duke, should be an electrifying Final Four on Saturday.

Speaker 6 Let's go to Bubble Gumpino in the back. Gumpy, good money on Duke.
Is that where you're residing or who are you betting on, Gumpsh?

Speaker 16 I'm going to take whoever wins Florida and Auburn. I like both of them.

Speaker 16 Houston will be able to match the physicality of Duke, but I don't think they'll be able to beat Duke.

Speaker 1 Like, Duke bullied.

Speaker 16 Duke's been bullying everybody. Houston had some man-me down low.
They can match that. I just don't know if they can beat Duke.

Speaker 16 I think whoever comes out of Auburn in Florida has a good chance of beating Duke in the final.

Speaker 6 What did you learn from watching that Tennessee first half with Houston?

Speaker 16 It looked like they were very tired. Every three-pointer hit the front of the rim.
That was atrocious.

Speaker 1 15 points.

Speaker 16 Well, especially after we were there Friday night, that was the best they looked all year against Kentucky on Friday night. And then you can say the same about Alabama.

Speaker 16 The best they looked all year was against BYU. They go and play Duke, and they can't hit a damn thing.
Duke is so good defensively, and they will bully teams.

Speaker 6 Lucas Hollow Stadium was a good setup.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it looks like it.

Speaker 6 It was

Speaker 6 was a good, had a good view of everything, had good games, obviously. I mean, a couple of them were blowouts, but it was, it was a good,

Speaker 6 I thought it was a good host. I legitimately thought, and now all eyes are on San Antonio.
Where are they at down there? They're in that Alamo Dome.

Speaker 1 That's a big one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's gigantic. Like, I think as shooters, and we know college guys, they can shoot lights out, but they can't shoot like NBA dudes.

Speaker 1 Like, if you get in one of those big venues, Debuck can speak more than any of us. Debuck's a legit basketball player.
Like, isn't it weird sometimes shooting in those huge venues when you go from

Speaker 1 an arena basically to a stadium, like the Alamodome? I played a bull game there.

Speaker 5 It's huge. I actually went there for one of the Yukon national championship runs for the women's side.

Speaker 1 The court's got to look so small.

Speaker 5 The depth perception changed. But once they get out there and they practice, they have their shooter-rounds.
You know, these are some of the best shooters, obviously, in the world, in the country.

Speaker 5 So they definitely figure it out. I lost a lot of interest in March Madness after my Huskies got bumped.

Speaker 1 But this will be great for them. God, dude.

Speaker 5 i was watching golf this weekend all right minwoo lee got his first win

Speaker 5 sally houston in that leaderboard on sunday yep roars scotty yep uh what was that woodland he made a run on so it was some great great golf this weekend leading into the masters but i'll definitely be locked in in this final four run i'm with the gumps so i think the winner ultimately comes out of the sec

Speaker 6 winning it would obviously be great for sankey and for their entire narrative that they are now at basketball conference had seven of the sweet 16 teams now obviously they will have a representative in the national championship as florida and auburn play against each other ari mirov and others are saying that nfl executive peter o'reilly good guy that changed chat with oh oh oh oh

Speaker 1 riley

Speaker 6 from the nfl

Speaker 6 um said that the league is exploring a possibility of a regular season game in the united arab emirates but more work is needed before it becomes a reality

Speaker 6 let me tell you why they're doing that

Speaker 1 Why?

Speaker 5 Explain it.

Speaker 1 It wasn't true.

Speaker 6 Maybe. I mean, maybe.
That might be the actual thing. It's like, can we do business over there? And if we can, how often? And

Speaker 6 is that a real thing? And it's like, yes. Okay.
I would like to be on the side of, I think it's good.

Speaker 6 to

Speaker 6 help

Speaker 6 countries and everything evolve. I think it's a good thing.

Speaker 6 Like getting a chance to watch from afar, I've never been over there, what the WWE has done alongside Saudi Arabia and the crown prince, God bless him,

Speaker 6 and everything they have going on over there for their citizens, for their entertainment, for day to day, for what life is like from what it was just 10, 15 years ago to what it is now.

Speaker 6 Like, I think that's good for their society, good for the world. Now, granted, there's a lot of detractors to all of that.
You're doing business with people that have.

Speaker 6 And it's like, if we start digging into all those things, especially in all these different countries like i think you're going to be able to find everywhere there's been mistakes obviously bigger than in some places than others i get it but watching their society evolve with the wwe

Speaker 6 and with sport and with entertainment and us taking the game like i like the thought of bringing the world together and closer via sport i enjoy the fact that golf was being utilized as something for saudi arabia folks to get interested in more american sports Like, I like the thought of sport bringing the world together because ultimately, that's what I think sports are about.

Speaker 6 And if the NFL is able to take their game over there and receive a huge payment, a fucking

Speaker 6 huge payment, I think it's good for the world as a whole. But yes, that number

Speaker 6 and the amount of apostrophes that'll be on that one, I assume, only goes up, which is good for salary cap. Good for the league, but also a very real situation.

Speaker 1 Yeah, great.

Speaker 1 I don't know what that, what's that flight, like 18 hours or something to try to get over there. You might have a bye week coming back from that one, but you're right.
Like, that's

Speaker 2 a whole other part.

Speaker 1 If they're doing Australia, if they're talking about doing Australian, like, I don't think they give a shit about that. What about the Concorde? The new Concorde's coming out in a year or two, right?

Speaker 1 Remember Ursae was talking about

Speaker 1 when their new Concord that's about to be ready?

Speaker 2 Let's give that thing a couple years.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 6 I don't know if I'm signing up for this kid on the first one. Yeah, just like Connor just said, I'll go on the seventh one.

Speaker 1 Let someone else win. I don't know about that.
I'll go on it a month after it's in the second one. New double digits.

Speaker 6 New double digits in that one at least. Maybe triple.
That's like, I'm at a point now where people are trying to sell me planes, which is hilarious.

Speaker 6 And

Speaker 6 it's crazy to me that the brand new ones are so much more expensive.

Speaker 6 Because if somebody comes up to me and they say they got a brand new plane, I'm going to say, this thing's got no, no, this thing's never been up or down.

Speaker 6 They're like, well, in tests, obviously, it's like,

Speaker 1 I'm not getting on that plane.

Speaker 6 Thanks.

Speaker 6 I need my bird to be experienced. Okay.
I need to experience a Midwestern wind, a Midwestern fall.

Speaker 6 I needed to go over there towards the northeast whenever, you know, it's about to be winter and that bay is humming. Like, I'd like some hours on my plane.
I would like some hours on that thing.

Speaker 6 You're like, well, no, this is the one you want. It's like, no, it is.
The fuck it is. I'm not getting on that thing.
No way. Have the wheels gone down and up yet?

Speaker 6 Because I've been on a plane where the wheels wouldn't go up. Okay, and that's certainly something.
And then I've been on one where the wheels wouldn't go down for like a couple hours.

Speaker 6 And they're like, we think we might have to body this thing. And it's like,

Speaker 1 I'm dead. Okay.

Speaker 6 I'm dying today. That's sweet.
So I want my bird to have a little experience, just like the Concorde. If I'm hopping on an actual rocket, I'd like that thing to at least take a trip another round.

Speaker 1 Another round.

Speaker 1 Another round.

Speaker 1 You know.

Speaker 1 But maybe that'll be the thing. I want one of those, I want a drone, like the human-sized drone where it's like the one-seater.

Speaker 1 I get in, I just type my destination, and it flies me 20 minutes to my house or something. That's what I'm looking for.

Speaker 6 I don't think you can get to England for a game.

Speaker 1 Nah, I mean, this is more shorter. Like, hey, I'm at the Thunderdome.
I need to go a 25-minute drive from here. Boom.
Give me my little, my little

Speaker 1 Uber drone where I can order from my phone. Oh, yeah.
Right?

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 6 Is that a helicopter if it's four choppers that are doing all the work? I don't know. You tell me.
All right. We'll wrap it up here.

Speaker 6 Netflix, raw, three o'clock Eastern, one hour and six minutes from now. Should be a great time in London.
If not, we're back tomorrow. Be your friend tells me something nice.

Speaker 6 It might change their life.

Speaker 1 Goodbye. Oh.

Speaker 1 nice.

Speaker 7 Torpedoed that thing. Yeah, it did.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you torpedoed the shit out of that thing.

Speaker 3 Still think that is

Speaker 6 genius. That feels like something they're going to ban.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It seems like a genius play. Was it just a perfect storm where they used the bats and all of a sudden they got hotter? They faced pitchers that they see the ball well.
Like, what happened?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 7 they hit nine homers in their second.

Speaker 1 They're not going to continue this pace.

Speaker 1 No, no, definitely not.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean, that's what, yeah, the Brewers, they, on, on Saturday, they hit three homers in the three, uh, the first three pitches of the game. And, you know, so it kind of really

Speaker 7 started to heat things up there. But, yeah, I mean, anytime you hit nine homers in a game,

Speaker 7 they scored so many runs and they just beat the shit out of them that people are going to say, you know, hey, you got to call competitive balance.

Speaker 7 But again, everyone had the opportunity to do something like this, and it has kind of been around before.

Speaker 7 But, like I said, if the Yankees or like the Dodgers or one of these big teams do this, it's obviously going to get a lot more eyes on it. But we'll see.

Speaker 7 I would assume that more people are going to start using these in the coming weeks here juice the balls It's time to juice the balls, okay?

Speaker 2 We don't want guys taking steroids fine get the torpedo bats on every team and juice the balls and then we get the summer slam all over again and baseball is all the way back because I also saw a cool promo video of all the players and all the teams and it did make me want to watch baseball because it had sweet music behind it and had Shohei hitting homers with Aaron Judge.

Speaker 2 Like this is this is such a simple fix to the problem baseball has had in the past.

Speaker 5 I'm with you coming i i am still shocked from the news that you told me the miami the guy that built these bats works with a fucking miami marshmallow that probably answers your question hey jay that is not the bats that sound like

Speaker 5 those yeah that's definitely because we've been what one of the shittiest teams last week real bad

Speaker 1 samson was there i mean jazz is

Speaker 1 figuring it out

Speaker 1 doug

Speaker 6 but a lot of people are also saying that john car stanton used the torpedo bat last year and that's why both of his elbows don't work anymore so maybe the weight distribution you know that could call something into you're swinging too hard yeah exactly swinging too hard those torpedoes i think it's good for baseball i love it all right and before i get out of here we got to talk about something that obviously captivated some headlines um

Speaker 6 morgan wallen just wasn't told if he was supposed to talk to everybody or what do you think happened he just wanted to get back to god he just wanted to get back to god's country man i mean

Speaker 1 does the musical act still be? Didn't spend all week or at least the last couple of days? Probably. He didn't just come in for Saturday.
He's been the credits there.

Speaker 2 I know that.

Speaker 1 He was over it.

Speaker 1 He was over everything.

Speaker 6 So they had the photo. Remember, they did the promo where he was standing on the side, didn't say anything.
Yeah. We're just giving the looks.
Morgan Wallen, my number one Spotify musician.

Speaker 6 So I am a big fan. I've had a chance to meet him a few times.
Cool dude. When I heard he was doing Saturday Live, he was super pumped for him.
Yeah, I walked out with him. You're right.

Speaker 6 I completely completely forgot about that.

Speaker 1 I walked out with him at Lucasville Stadium.

Speaker 6 The first one, I think it was like the first one, the first walkout. Me and Tyrese Halliburton, obviously, we were out there going, mad, silly, dude.
Mad dumb.

Speaker 1 No cabby. Mad baddie.
No cabby.

Speaker 6 It was so lit, dude. We were doing it.

Speaker 6 So when I saw the first promo, where he didn't say anything, he just kind of looked over and heading on it. I was like, oh, this looks like it's going well.

Speaker 6 And then

Speaker 6 I saw him at the end the ass out hug not the ass in hug and then I saw him just fucking roll right out towards the camera I mean I laughed my ass I laughed said I was supposed to be funny I laughed very hard I laughed very hard

Speaker 6 He said he was not I don't know if it was him or somebody in his team said he was he did not know he thought show was over he thought he was just supposed to to go on and get out of there so i think it's a legendary exit and then he gets to teeterborough and he says get me back to my dirt bikes and get me back to my 40s and get me back to God's country.

Speaker 6 And

Speaker 6 I think obviously I assume he was honored to be a part of Saturday Night Live, but he did something that's never been done before. And that show's been on a long time.

Speaker 6 I laughed so fucking hard, though. So hard watching it take place.
Because what if nobody told him? And he never watched the end? Like, what if he never got to the end of a Saturday Night Live?

Speaker 6 And they're like, you know, it's been on for 50 years. And he's like, yeah, yeah, we'll say goodbye again.

Speaker 1 All right. All right.
Fuck it.

Speaker 1 It's incredible. I love it.

Speaker 6 I left so hard.

Speaker 1 What's the issue?

Speaker 1 What do people think? They think the staff didn't, or you know, the crew, the cast didn't like him, or he didn't like the cast? Is that what happened? She got police.

Speaker 1 Or he just had to get home. No, where does he just didn't know? He just, that's, I was the same way he left all week long.
That's just how it went.

Speaker 6 Every time I've been up here, I fucking right there.

Speaker 6 It says exit.

Speaker 3 Is that where

Speaker 6 people said that maybe, you know, he didn't get along or they didn't get along.

Speaker 6 Or I saw some terrible things said about Morgan by people on the internet because obviously they're going to say that he's given, he's provided an opportunity throughout his entire life for that to happen.

Speaker 6 But

Speaker 6 keep on trucking, Morgan. You did great.
You did absolutely great. And your exit is one they'll talk about forever.
They'll actually say next time, hey, don't do the Morgan wall.

Speaker 6 So

Speaker 6 they'll say that forever.

Speaker 1 Yes. You know, and

Speaker 6 that's what legends do. That's what legends do, brother.
All right, I'm going to go do this program. I can't thank you guys enough.
1,750 tickets on sale Wednesday at noon. Just been opened up.

Speaker 1 Just been opened up. Let's go.
Hell yeah.

Speaker 1 Get it.

Speaker 6 Do you think there's a background on that graphic? I can't.

Speaker 1 What do you mean?

Speaker 1 My screen, I can't.

Speaker 2 It's just black. Yeah, there is actually.

Speaker 2 There's a little like a black background.

Speaker 1 Gravelly, gravelly kind of feel to it. I can see it.

Speaker 6 Yeah, why would you want to see that? You know, like, why would you, if you were making the graphic, you take all the time to put the city of Pittsburgh in the background of the graphic?

Speaker 1 No, that's I don't see it.

Speaker 6 Why would you want anybody to see it?

Speaker 8 Oh, that's not. I'm just happy it says big night out, Pat.
I'm really just happy to see that on there.

Speaker 1 Oh, it is.

Speaker 6 I do worry that my I do worry that my leadership in coaching is just not good

Speaker 6 because

Speaker 6 this D-bone guy, you know,

Speaker 6 we'll get to a new graphic

Speaker 6 and it's like, have I taught you nothing?

Speaker 3 Have we, have you?

Speaker 6 Are my words? Not,

Speaker 6 can you hear? Are you deaf? What is the, am I not saying, so I'll tell you what, Debon has really challenged me to become a better orator.

Speaker 6 And for that, I appreciate him because the guy's a fucking talent. The guy's a fucking talent and he knows it.

Speaker 10 But great graphic here.

Speaker 6 And it's great news. Cannot wait for Big Night Out.
A week and a half from today. It's happening.

Speaker 1 Holy shit, man.

Speaker 1 It's happening.

Speaker 1 It's going to be cool.

Speaker 6 All right, let me go out here. I sent the video in where I'm at.
Can you guys pull that off?

Speaker 1 Can we play that? What is that room used for? Do you know? Look at this.

Speaker 1 Sec?

Speaker 10 No idea.

Speaker 6 This was a back room.

Speaker 1 Oh, that is. Oh, hell yeah.
I mean, it's every arena should have been. That's all in rooms like this.
Good lad.

Speaker 6 That's Eddie O'Rango, one of our greatest officials here at the WWE. Said, hey, I got a room for you, brother.
Nobody knows about it. And then, bang, I walked into this thing.

Speaker 1 That's awesome. And that's where I'm at right now.
That is sweet.

Speaker 6 Literally, that's where I'm.

Speaker 1 I guess it's a green room. I wonder who

Speaker 6 wonder who all has been here. Like, and I don't see a uh, oh, yeah, there is one right there, I guess.
I was gonna, oh, I was thinking maybe this is a uh sure, yeah, cover that thing up.

Speaker 2 They've done some things in there.

Speaker 1 I don't think we want to know what happens in that room. Yeah, don't get a black light on that couch.

Speaker 6 I mean, look at a waterfall, yeah.

Speaker 1 They, they have a waterfall, they got people decorated in the jungle for a reason.

Speaker 1 I mean, the whole thing is a mirror on one side of it.

Speaker 6 You think they're bowing in here?

Speaker 1 I think people are bowing in the channel. People are boning for sure right there.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 With those mirrors, that's what they're for.

Speaker 6 You think people are boning in the other two right here?

Speaker 1 Is that cloth? Is that cloth on the couch? You want some leather you can wipe up? You know, that stuff's going to seep into that cloth.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 2 oh, boy. That's bad news, Bears.

Speaker 1 They steam cleaning. Yeah.

Speaker 6 I wonder who Steven I sat on here.

Speaker 1 McJagger. Yeah, for everybody.
This could be

Speaker 1 Ringo's. Ringo.

Speaker 6 I'm sorry, the artist formerly known.

Speaker 1 All of the Beatles. Yeah.
Really? Even John.

Speaker 5 Rajlu.

Speaker 1 Paul, obviously. Oh, dude.

Speaker 6 I got some leftie semen in here.

Speaker 1 You're right. Good question.
All right, come out of here.

Speaker 6 I'll see you, boys.

Speaker 1 See you, brother. All right, go on.
Go get up there, man. Go get it.
You too.

Speaker 1 So Netflix 3 p.m. Eastern, correct? Correct.

Speaker 1 Netflix 3 p.m. Eastern, we're on the road to WrestleMania.
We are on the road to WrestleMania.

Speaker 2 We're close, man.

Speaker 1 What happens tonight? Who's coming out tonight? You mentioned it. Possibly somebody that we can't see.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think you know. I don't know why.
Who could that be?

Speaker 1 Is he a great actor? I thought we were done making those jokes.

Speaker 7 What? They're not funny. They never were.

Speaker 1 You can't see me.

Speaker 1 Is there a final boss?

Speaker 1 I want John Cena to start rapping again. Honestly.
He never stopped.

Speaker 2 I wonder if Cody Rhodes is going to play Klasha Clans in the middle of the ring.

Speaker 1 I think there's a chance. What do you want to talk about, AJ?

Speaker 1 I did see a video of that.

Speaker 5 Triple H is going to keep protecting Cody Rhodes.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 he won't let him go face to face because Cena would destroy him with a promo.

Speaker 5 I want Cena to cook him on the mic.

Speaker 1 Is Dwayne over there?

Speaker 5 You mean the final boss? Final boss. I don't know.

Speaker 1 IG. I don't know.
No, actually, I saw he couldn't get out to the UFL game because his flight had to turn around mid-flight

Speaker 1 from Hawaii over the ocean.

Speaker 5 How was the UFL?

Speaker 1 Dude, a great weekend.

Speaker 1 Didn't, oh, buddy made a kick. Destroyed.
Destroying. He drained a kick.
Oh, he did. Yeah, 39-yard.
There's a lot of good tackling. Is that real?

Speaker 7 Skip Holtz and some other head coach almost got into a fist fight.

Speaker 1 I did not see him on that. Shit, missed that.
It was pretty sweet. I watched Jordan Tale.
Senator get a bonus.

Speaker 1 You think The Rock pays them a bonus if coaches fight? Like, hey, we get some more eyeballs.

Speaker 7 Sounds like they all want bonuses. And that was kind of why we almost didn't have the UFL this year.

Speaker 5 They did have the first down technology. Right.

Speaker 1 This is where we get new technology that we'll eventually get to the NFL, right? Yeah, that was sweet to see.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 there must be a chip in the ball and then this on the field. Like, how does it work? Was it quick? What technology did they use that the NFL won't use? Microprocessors.
Give us that. Probably

Speaker 1 micro processors. They're tough to see, but great.
You know how bad that would hurt to come in and make that tackle?

Speaker 1 Oh, what?

Speaker 5 Throw the fist up, fourth down. Wow.

Speaker 1 So, do we think this has legs, this league? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 16 Yeah, the crowd was passed in all the games.

Speaker 2 Definitely has legs.

Speaker 1 I mean, first of all, like, like a centipede. You can say whatever you want.

Speaker 1 These guys, every guy playing on this field,

Speaker 2 they're all elite football players.

Speaker 1 No doubt about it. So much better than anybody we've watched play in high school and mostly in college.
Agreed. But it's weird when it's not the NFL, D.
But

Speaker 1 why is it so hard to get invested invested in something that's not the NFL? Oh, here we go. This is Puka's brother, right? Yeah, I think Puka's brother.
Both of Puka's brothers scored, I believe.

Speaker 1 Yes, really? Good day.

Speaker 7 I feel like I'm watching any given Sunday. That's why I can't get on board with it because it's like these aren't NFL uniforms.

Speaker 7 I feel like I'm watching a movie where they couldn't get NFL licensing, and we have these weird Michigan Panthers. I'm just never going to get there with that.
Where are they?

Speaker 1 Ever. Where's the game?

Speaker 2 Where are these games? It's still in Simmons Bank Stadium.

Speaker 8 The Michigan Panthers will play at Fordfield. I know that.

Speaker 1 Okay, so they have home. They have home.
They need to play smaller venues, probably.

Speaker 2 Well, the thing is,

Speaker 2 that doesn't matter. That's what the indoor league does.

Speaker 2 College football and the NFL are such incredible products where

Speaker 2 even the step down, like, I mean, LeBron kind of mentioned it with college basketball. Even the step down from college to NBA, people have a tough time with.

Speaker 2 And like something like that versus a college game is a level. And then obviously, I mean, you guys know, like, college to NFL is another level.
So it's like, it just, you know, it's fun.

Speaker 1 You've got to be invested. You got to invest in the players.
That's the problem.

Speaker 1 Obviously, if you have a buddy or

Speaker 1 a family member playing, you're going to go like, and you're going to be all in. But outside of that, how do you get casuals to all of a sudden be interested in something that's a new startup?

Speaker 7 More POV, Cam. That's certainly a way to start.
Motivation.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I'll watch doing an F1 series.

Speaker 2 That's how people go into F1.

Speaker 1 Oh, the Netflix.

Speaker 2 I also don't like it. I don't know.

Speaker 7 You can't do it the like the March Madness is on this weekend, and and it's like the biggest games of the year like I'm not it's very hard to be like something I know the you know elite eight is going on but fucking UFL sees is starting I mean Joe Glatt was calling the game wasn't he yeah

Speaker 1 Fox is the you know big time in the Cole Kublick fell asleep during it no he didn't did he no I

Speaker 1 just snorted you might as well

Speaker 1 just saw he wasn't a huge fan but I also didn't see exactly what happened speaking of lower leagues Bruce bought season tickets to Fisher's Freight The indoor league starts soon.

Speaker 1 Iowa Barnstormers season open next week. I'll beat you.
What sport is it? What sport is it?

Speaker 12 Indoor football league.

Speaker 12 Fisher's Freight's 1-0, 41-29 victory in the first week.

Speaker 1 It is actually very fun to watch in person. There's big hits and there's touchdowns all over the place.

Speaker 5 Any players we know?

Speaker 1 Yeah, me.

Speaker 2 I'm actually playing quarterback.

Speaker 2 Not yet.

Speaker 1 You should go play some position. Are you playing quarterback for your touch, push, victory? Fisher's Freight.
That's where I was on the table. Through six touchdowns.

Speaker 5 Wait, where do they play?

Speaker 1 What kind of venue is it?

Speaker 1 It's a new venue

Speaker 1 around here in Fisher's. It's seats like 7,000.

Speaker 7 It's where

Speaker 1 Andy Fuel, yeah, the Volleyball team plays there.

Speaker 7 Blake Shelton was just there.

Speaker 1 Is that the freight?

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's a big play for us.

Speaker 1 So is this the Arena League?

Speaker 1 Is this the league that AB had a team?

Speaker 2 Oh, you're talking about the Albany Empire?

Speaker 1 I don't know if that league exists anymore.

Speaker 1 The Under was 83. Oh, yeah, this is the IFL.
Yeah, this isn't like the Arena League. This is affluent game.

Speaker 5 Well, I mean, the Under was.

Speaker 7 A lot of people are saying Joseph Jr. might win defensive part of the year.

Speaker 1 I did hear that. I did.

Speaker 1 D-line number 28.

Speaker 1 Who got season six? Bruce Bruce. Bruce did.
He's going to go in.

Speaker 1 Huh?

Speaker 7 How do you afford that?

Speaker 1 He decided not to get McDonald's last week. Come on, y'all.
Oh, yeah. These guys are late on the line.
They're affordable families. They're late on the line for our entertainment.

Speaker 2 Picked up a coupon.

Speaker 1 Modern day gladiators.

Speaker 1 Some poor guy owns the team.

Speaker 7 That being said, this is like 10 minutes from my house. I'll go to every fucking game.

Speaker 1 If you don't think I'm going to be embedded in the Iowa Barnstormer's bench, you're crazy.

Speaker 1 They might let you coach. Maybe.
Go down.

Speaker 1 You might get a carry on the goal line. When's the season open at all? Sorry, but that RPO.

Speaker 1 Friday, 705. Friday, 705.
See you there. Yep.
Like Friday night.

Speaker 1 Now I get my high school fix in

Speaker 1 the offseason, in the spring. I miss Friday night lights usually in the spring.
Now I have it back.

Speaker 7 They got good booze cocktails at that place, too.

Speaker 5 that, you know.

Speaker 1 No, what's sweet

Speaker 5 football?

Speaker 1 We've shown it before, but the, you know, the outdoor adult league where they wear no pads, but still full contact, that is actually very

Speaker 1 good. That needs like a saddle.

Speaker 1 They send me messages all the time to watch.

Speaker 2 That needs a Savannah Bananas run, where they're going around from field to field and playing football.

Speaker 1 What is Savannah Bananas? Are they really traveling like to

Speaker 1 sell stadiums? Okay, so you have Spanish Park. Can you explain? There's two teams, right? Yep, two teams.
Always two teams, the same teams play each other.

Speaker 2 So party animals and bananas. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Actually, okay. No, basically baseball glove called them glove trotters.
Yeah, basically. Same thing.
But are they, okay, are the outcomes...

Speaker 1 What are the outcomes? No, the outcomes are

Speaker 1 playing. They're just doing cool dances before they throw it, but then they're like really pitching it and really trying to hit it.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 And they just have like sweet gimmicks.

Speaker 1 Oh, buddy on stilts.

Speaker 2 Yeah, backyard baseball, where you have like... Activate stilts mode or something like that.

Speaker 1 So that's what we're doing. Activate big mode.
But the beats can play though. They're legit baseball players.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 But do you have to audition? Because you have to be an absolute professor.

Speaker 7 They got the guy who does the backflip in the outfield before he catches pop flies. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Circus delay.

Speaker 2 Dude, one of the rules they had was like in the ninth inning because they have certain rules with the fans, too.

Speaker 1 Oh, those are right. I remember that from last year.
If you catch a ball or something like that.

Speaker 2 So it's like if a fan catches a foul ball, game's over, that team wins. And it happened.

Speaker 2 Really? People went nuts. I thought they brought the fan onto the field.

Speaker 1 It was really cool, actually. So they're still trying to win.
Each team is trying to win the game. Yes.
But they each have their own little

Speaker 1 form of entertainment, though.

Speaker 1 They have their cars cool. But they all have elaborate walks.
Sometimes I'll see the video of the dude walking in from the top of the stadium doing a choreographed dance with 80 people.

Speaker 1 They have a good time. I know.

Speaker 5 How many stops do you have?

Speaker 1 I've seen, you know,

Speaker 1 they sold out Fenway not too long ago before the season started.

Speaker 2 For an entire weekend. I mean, I'm not sure if they sold it out, but they sold like 60,000 tickets in the Raymond James for the Tampei Buccaneers play.

Speaker 1 Crazy. Has anyone made the jump to the majors?

Speaker 2 I don't know if that's how it works.

Speaker 1 Tone, I'm not confident that you are confident in what you said. A couple guys? That's not how it works.

Speaker 1 I think you may just said that. I think it came out.

Speaker 1 I do think it's the opposite.

Speaker 1 Was he doing backflip?

Speaker 2 I do think it is the opposite where like single A, double-A guys will go to the bananas.

Speaker 7 Guys, retired, too.

Speaker 1 Hopefully, they get paid because these guys are legit, like entertainers.

Speaker 7 Like Shane Victorino was playing for one of the other teams.

Speaker 1 He's like a former

Speaker 7 MVP.

Speaker 7 I don't know if he was on the Party Animals or the Bananas.

Speaker 2 I think he was a banana. Johnny Damon, Ryan Howard.

Speaker 1 Johnny Damon? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they played in a game. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like they were really part of it. Not just like, hey, this is an honorary at-bat or something.
No, no, no.

Speaker 2 Like they were part of the game. Ooh, I don't know.
They might have been a pinch-hit situation, but either way, they were playing.

Speaker 1 I mean, if you can pitch off of stilts, I'll give you credit. You should win that game.
Certainly. That dude's on stilts.
Yeah, look, that's Raymond. He's Raymond James? Yeah, yeah.
Nuts.

Speaker 1 That's a cool setup. Wow.
Who won this this one? Bananas? Bananas, maybe, probably.

Speaker 1 Bananas.

Speaker 1 Probably.

Speaker 1 I will say one of the craziest things that happens.

Speaker 8 If it's like, I can't remember if it's a foul ball and a fan catches it, it is called an out.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I like that rule. I like that rule.

Speaker 8 I don't know if we said that already, but that was one of my favorite things of all time.

Speaker 1 We did. We started it.
It's a good gimmick. It's good.
He reinforced it. He drove it home.
It is true, though, right? So, wow. How far is the home run? What if I throw it far 600 yards?

Speaker 1 If you hit a homer and you throw it back, doesn't something happen?

Speaker 7 Yeah, they beat the shit out of you.

Speaker 1 No, actually, if you hit it,

Speaker 1 if the fans throw the home run ball back, then the club signs you, and then you lead them to the World Series, but then your elbow fully heals and you can't throw the fastball anymore. Chet Stedman's

Speaker 2 mentor.

Speaker 1 He's like a grumpy old guy, right? He starts dating your mom. Loves Salisbury Steak.
Loves it. He doesn't.
Looks like he's like 58. He's still pitching in the majors.

Speaker 1 Don't call him the Rocket anymore.

Speaker 1 You don't reference the movie you're talking to all the young people? What? Anyone younger than you? There was no movie reference there. Okay,

Speaker 1 the rules of the Rosenbagger.

Speaker 1 That from top to bottom, that was a great era of movies, I guess. We remember

Speaker 1 that came out. Debo, you see now, right?

Speaker 1 What? Why is he looking at your ass? You haven't seen anything?

Speaker 1 Debo, rookie.

Speaker 5 I see. I was trying to get a name.
I did not see it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was great. I saw one of those movies were seen.
Little giants. I can't remember.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're not little giants. You see, you know, Ice Spots.
Sam Lott, Spike.

Speaker 1 Ah, what else? Absolutely.

Speaker 5 Banger, still Still haven't seen Mighty Ducks.

Speaker 1 Those two.

Speaker 1 The Big Green.

Speaker 1 Big Green.

Speaker 7 Steve Gutenberg, head coach.

Speaker 1 Airbud. Airbus.
Airbus.

Speaker 1 Great time for space. Original Space Jam.
Oh, my kids were watching Original Space Jam last night. It holds up.
Did they? Oh, yeah. Which one do they like better?

Speaker 1 They haven't even seen the new one.

Speaker 5 I missed Ron about Space Jam.

Speaker 1 Fuck. Space Jam was legit.
That's a movie. Yeah.
Yeah. George was good.
Magic stuff. I mean, it's a legit movie.
I think he filmed it. Didn't he film it in the middle of his three-peat?

Speaker 2 Yeah, they built an entire...

Speaker 1 I remember that, right? Jim, where he would go play, bring in all the big-time dudes, and he would play.

Speaker 1 I tried to tell my kids that, actually, I was like, hey, there's a reason Michael Jordan's Michael Jordan.

Speaker 1 When he was filming this in the offseason, he brought in all the best players in the world and played for eight hours

Speaker 1 every single day to try to let them, you know, just reinforce that. Jordan didn't wake up and all of a sudden become that good.
I'm glad you reinforced it. I did.
They didn't listen.

Speaker 1 They didn't hear it. Every day.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 It'll resonate. They heard.

Speaker 1 You think? Yeah. At some point.

Speaker 1 Maybe not yesterday, but they heard. You're right.
You're right. Someday.
With that being said, I think we're going to wrap this thing up, Tone. Okay.

Speaker 1 Anything we need to know as far as gambling moving forward from today until tomorrow when Packet's back? No. Nothing going on tonight?

Speaker 1 Anything you can gamble on tonight?

Speaker 16 The Crown. The Crown Basketball Tournament starts tonight in Vegas.

Speaker 1 Okay. The fuck is that?

Speaker 16 It's not the NIT. It's not the CBI, but it is a college basketball tournament.
I think it's the first year it's happened. It starts in Vegas tonight.

Speaker 1 These teams haven't played basketball in two months, so it should be.

Speaker 1 Do we know who's playing it, Coach?

Speaker 16 Yeah, like

Speaker 16 Arizona State's playing Nebraska. Georgetown's playing Washington.

Speaker 1 Those are real teams. I'm confused.

Speaker 16 Yeah, like these are decent teams.

Speaker 16 I've never seen this before. I don't know why it took so long to start, but

Speaker 16 this is happening tonight.

Speaker 1 Billy State? Cincinnati State. Everyone's in the portal.

Speaker 1 I was confused as well, Foxy. These teams haven't played basketball in two months.
They don't have guys. I don't understand it.
Tomorrow's April 1st. Is there a chance you got duped?

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 1 no chance.

Speaker 16 This is the crown, brother.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 You got any plans for April Fools?

Speaker 1 I'm a big April Fools guy.

Speaker 2 That's all right.

Speaker 1 That's why I asked. No.

Speaker 1 Okay, what stupid April Fool's things are we going to wake up and hear tomorrow? So many. Aaron signed.

Speaker 5 Oh,

Speaker 5 for sure. Yep.

Speaker 1 What if he was waiting to sign on April Fools just to mess with him? That would be him.

Speaker 1 That'd be so, Aaron. No, I mean, April Fool's things, people, I don't know what the old classic go-tos are.

Speaker 7 I mean, a lot of people are going to get got on Twitter tomorrow.

Speaker 7 We're going to have a couple celebrities that, you know, die tomorrow, which they're not dead, but we're going to get several of those.

Speaker 1 Is that always funny when we think someone's dead and then we say, oh, gotcha, we're not.

Speaker 5 He's dying. Yeah.
I saw that.

Speaker 1 It's pass.

Speaker 1 Which one are you referencing?

Speaker 5 I just saw it on. I watch a lot of sports talk.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 For the record, this person's alive, though.

Speaker 1 I hope so.

Speaker 1 Think so. All right.
All right.

Speaker 5 I mean, I saw it multiple times. I just want isolated.

Speaker 1 If I'm not confident that someone is dead, I'm not going to announce them dead. Just for the record's sad.
Just like I'm not going to ask if you're pregnant. Smart.

Speaker 1 Let them tell you. That is smart.

Speaker 1 If you're dead, I need to see you dead or you need to tell me you're dead. And if you're pregnant, I'm never asking.
You got to tell me. Bingo.
Dead. I'll just say congratulations.

Speaker 2 I'm with you on that a thousand percent.

Speaker 1 That's smart.

Speaker 8 It's good rules. Everyone should be with you on that.

Speaker 1 They're not. Everyone's not.
I know. They're not.
And also with you. Man, look at you, Joe.
How many months pregnant are you? Huh? And then the person's not. I've been around a few of those.

Speaker 1 Bobby, stop.

Speaker 1 No. Again?

Speaker 7 You should bag some dog shit like tonight and like maybe you piss in like a couple plastic cups and set it out tomorrow and make your kids think that's what's for breakfast.

Speaker 1 That's a good idea.

Speaker 2 We don't have any groceries. This is the best.
We got to make do with what we got. A new diet.

Speaker 1 And as they're slopping up the turd, I got you. April Fool's after I see him eat three bowls of it.

Speaker 2 Or, or, or you put some of that turd on like a donut and you're just like, hey guys, got donuts today.

Speaker 2 Everyone's got, you know, he's got a chocolate frosty. He got a double chocolate.

Speaker 1 Oh, the store manager took a shit in our donuts. What the hell?

Speaker 5 If I do that, you guys do.

Speaker 1 If I end up doing that, I will film it for you you guys. You should do it.

Speaker 1 He will not traumatize my dude at all.

Speaker 1 Tony, you got a kid?

Speaker 5 I do.

Speaker 1 You could do it. How old is she? Two and a half.
Oh, yeah, she gets it.

Speaker 1 Dad fed me a poop donut today, but it was April Fool's. Luckily, he's not joking.
It was a good one. Yeah, it was a good one.
I'll probably do it. I'll film it.
I'll film it for you.

Speaker 1 Okay, good. Well, tomorrow, Pascal, he's going to make the long flight back here, obviously, tonight.
Man, he's logging some miles. Oh, yeah.
Oh, jeez.

Speaker 1 His schedule is unbelievable. But in 3 p.m.
Eastern, WWE Raw from London, England, the O2 Arena will be playing. Go over to Netflix.
Check that out. That'll be awesome.

Speaker 1 We hear a couple pop-in guests maybe that aren't always around might be there, right, Pat?

Speaker 1 Maybe. Maybe.

Speaker 1 We'll be intrigued.

Speaker 1 I will be back in Ohio in the attic tomorrow. Debut, appreciate you.
You'll be here tomorrow as well with Pat. Today's only Monday, huh?

Speaker 1 Okay. Next week, big night out Wednesday at noon, 1,750 more tickets will go on sale.
Gonna be awesome. Can't wait to see what that whole situation is like.
It's gonna be super cool.

Speaker 1 I'm looking forward to it. Good to be back with you boys.
Everybody in the back. Appreciate you guys helping me out and everything today.

Speaker 1 I'll be back tomorrow. Pat will be here.
Conman. Good to see you.
Ty

Speaker 1 tone, great job. You look good.
Break us down, Hawk.

Speaker 1 Here we go, guys. Everyone in the back, here we go.
Get them up. Here we go.
Team on me. Team on three.
One, two, three. Team.

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