PMS 2.0 1318 - Rule Changes From The League Meetings, Peter Schrager, "The Mayor" Sean Casey, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Speaker 1 Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome.

Speaker 1 On this New Rules Tuesday, April 1st, 2025, this program starts now.

Speaker 1 Swords are happening all around us, and obviously we're incredibly lucky to get a chance to chat about it every single day. Last night I was in London.
What a wonderful town actually. Had a blast.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Wade Barrett being an incredibly hospitable host in all the points that we

Speaker 1 slammed around the Thames River and such. It was a great raw, it was a great atmosphere, it was a great crowd.
Then I got a chance to fly back here to Indianapolis, Indiana.

Speaker 1 When I woke up this morning, holy hell, we're in a new world.

Speaker 1 There's a bunch of new rules happening in the NFL, down to league meetings happening down in Florida, where the weather looks spectacular, the hands have been shaken, and there's been one particular rule that has been talked about all week, maybe all season, where one team is better than everybody else.

Speaker 1 One team might be tougher than everybody else. One team needs to be punished and no longer allowed to do the tush push.
Well, they went ahead and put a pin in that.

Speaker 1 They're going to circle back in May. Allegedly, it was a split decision, a split room, 16 for the ban, 16 against the ban.
They will further discuss it in May, they will say.

Speaker 1 Now, if they're doing that, people around the internet and listen, hey, listen, you know, the internet, especially today,

Speaker 1 let's keep our hand on this. We'll go to the next one.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 April 1 on the internet is a

Speaker 1 wild place.

Speaker 1 especially the ai nowadays sure don't be don't be getting fooled okay don't be thinking there's a palm tree extra point upright okay for faux that was cool

Speaker 1 it looked neat yeah it did but there's gonna be a lot of that but what everybody

Speaker 1 i mean i put this tweet up oh no uh just to out myself as somebody that looked at this and thought to myself this is awesome

Speaker 1 and uh then you know connor looks over at me goes are we sure this is real on April 1st?

Speaker 1 And then that's when you see the, oh, no. Oh, no.
Oh, no. I fell for this.
I hope that Coastal Carolina isn't doing an April Fool's because I learned about this yesterday. Yeah.

Speaker 1 There's no, did they do a pretty,

Speaker 1 ladies and gentlemen, Coastal Carolina football team announced this just yesterday on the internet. Don't know how this works.

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Speaker 1 Hey, Bub, I don't know who you are, but you're going to see a visit from us. I mean, we're going to test this thing.
There has to be some sort of limit. Every homeless guy in the country.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's going to be tough to keep the homeless out of there.

Speaker 1 Obviously, getting a free meal and free drink for not only yourself, but maybe the next week could be an opportunity for some to take advantage of down there.

Speaker 1 But nonetheless, I thought this, then I thought the palm trees. I'm like, college ball.
He's becoming minor league baseball. I love what we're doing.

Speaker 1 I don't know how that's going to work out for them.

Speaker 1 I honestly, I genuinely, in a time where everybody's trying to get money for the NIL stuff and trying to figure it all out, they're like, let's go the opposite direction.

Speaker 3 Let's give away everything.

Speaker 1 Everything. And if they fill that place up, they're thinking merch, maybe there'll be purchases and ticket sales, obviously going to go up.
There has to be a limit, one drink, one food item.

Speaker 1 I don't know because I saw that guy.

Speaker 1 15 nachos. That guy had two drinks, a hot dog, nachos, and everything else on there.
So

Speaker 1 Palm Tree's not real. We believe that was in March.
Right. For week one, at least.
Okay, so anyways, that's happening.

Speaker 1 Roger Goodell, allegedly, if something gets tabled for another meeting, it is something that he is looking to potentially further explore, which means, hey, we are going to have to figure this thing out.

Speaker 1 And maybe it does just go down to one person's allowed to push in May, or maybe it just remains the same.

Speaker 1 And if it does, the Philadelphia Eagles will continue to take a victory lap because not only are they the ones that are going to be the loudest about this because they've had the most success, they won a Super Bowl with this play being a massive piece of their team.

Speaker 1 Their fans are loud. The social media, I don't know if you saw the Philadelphia Eagles just posted on their Twitter a peach with a push on it.
Just saying, hey, tush push is ours.

Speaker 1 It survives another day. Yep, there it is.
But there's been a lot of rules that have changed. We'll chit-chat about that.

Speaker 1 There's a lot going on in a sport of baseball, which I did not expect us to chit-chat about as much as we have thus far. Hockey's happening, obviously.

Speaker 1 records are on the line and college basketball in the middle of its biggest time. Today should be a fantastic day.
Peter Schrager will be joining us, the newest member of the ESPN team.

Speaker 1 He was formerly at NFL Network and at Fox. Now he will be joining ESPN as an ESPN NFL representative.
Schrager, old friend of ours, obviously an Emmy Award winner. Cannot wait to see him back.

Speaker 1 I don't know if he's ever been with ESPN. I don't think so.
And we can't wait to chat with him. Talks tables here at Boston Conner, at Ty Schmidt.
One out of the hammer. Time.
Cowboys AP Tone is here.

Speaker 1 Tone, I see you wearing the Steelers hoodie, which is perfect for nine-year NFL vet. Darius J.
Butler is here looking very cool. Pittsburgh Steelers, Aaron Rodgers, DK Metcalf playing catch.

Speaker 1 I've seen a lot of conversation about that still happening. What do you think the final outcome is?

Speaker 1 Opening day of the NFL season, who's quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers?

Speaker 1 Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 Yeah, for sure. No question about it.
But yeah, I think Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 4 Just looking at it, I don't see, I know people are still talking Vikings and hanging that out there. I don't see that happening.

Speaker 4 I see Aaron Rodgers being the starting quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 4 Hopefully that announcement doesn't come today been that it is April Fools, but I think it is coming at some point before the draft. But that's just me.

Speaker 4 I'm sure most people probably feel like that because I don't think we, none of us up here think Aaron's going to retire.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, especially after this workout at UCLA. Now, A.
Men Culture and Ari

Speaker 1 Pulley NFL got this video in the photos. He's wearing all black.

Speaker 1 You know? Yeah. Pittsburgh Steelers, obviously, black and gold team.
Throwing to DK Metcalf. Doesn't seem to be throwing to anybody else.
Seemed to be in rhythm.

Speaker 1 This obviously comes after a meeting that he took in Pittsburgh. AP Tone, whenever you see the photos and you see the video, do you start fantasizing?

Speaker 1 Because I saw people even analyzing Aaron Rodgers' hand size on the internet. I saw a tweet that goes, we go from Kenny Pickett's hand size to Aaron Rodgers' hand size on the football.

Speaker 1 It feels like everything that comes out gets Steelers fans either more excited or make a decision already. We're sick of waiting on this guy.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's a little bit of both. This actually kind of pissed me off quite a bit.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Tony, we're being honest. That's exactly.

Speaker 1 That makes sense.

Speaker 1 What are we doing?

Speaker 5 Okay, you're out here throwing with DK, parading around, sign on the dotted line already.

Speaker 1 What? Like, parade? What is parading around here? We're gonna work out. He wanted to see if DK could catch before he wanted to join the Steelers or what the situation here is.

Speaker 5 If he doesn't sign with this point, oh boy.

Speaker 1 But no.

Speaker 1 But as, but, you know, Oh, boy, what?

Speaker 1 Oh, boy, what? What was this for, then? What was it? Just to piss everybody off? Maybe we're both in Los Angeles. Just to get your name in the lights.
No,

Speaker 1 what?

Speaker 1 You don't think maybe they just so happened to be in Los Angeles and amen culture was right around the corner? And they said, let's go get a workout. And why not? There's a chance.

Speaker 1 Maybe we can be teammates. A lot of people talk about it.
Everybody's talking about it. Look how happy they are.
Big smiles. Yeah.

Speaker 5 So they should make official and be teammates. But no, but then I thought, you know, this is where Tom was working out before he went to Tampa and won the Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 And I see Aaron, yeah, and I see him throwing a DK, and I picture him in the jerseys.

Speaker 5 I see eight throwing to four, okay, to many, many touchdowns. I assume he'd be eight.

Speaker 1 Why not? How'd you feel about the backwards hat? I love the backwards hat. Love it.
Love it. That's great five.

Speaker 1 That's just hot to say. Watching that thing come out, too, still spinning it, you know, just like at the end of the year.

Speaker 1 I thought there'd be more wide receivers. You know? It was GP.
Rap sheet.

Speaker 1 Well, I don't know if he's just setting up full off-season workouts for the Pittsburgh Steelers, but I thought there would be more of a collection of wide receivers.

Speaker 1 Like, I thought DK Metcalf would be there, but also like a two or a three from another team would also be working out, and we're all making a big deal out of it just being DK Metcalf and Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 Then the photos come out, and it's like a men culture's out there. Yep.
Okay, Aaron's out there and DK Metcalf out there.

Speaker 4 Do we know who set it up? Was it Aaron? Was it A-Men Cultures? It was Aaron. DK.
So Aaron just hit up. Do they have the same representation or what's the

Speaker 5 one for sure, to to be honest?

Speaker 5 I don't know if anybody does, but you know, your quarterback, quarterbacks normally are the ones that organize it. I assume.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Aaron called to the moon and the moon answered and the moon called to DK. I mean, if I'm George Pickens, I'm raising hell in Pittsburgh for you.

Speaker 1 He might have been invited. He might have been down in Florida.

Speaker 3 If George got invited, he would have been there. So if I'm GP, I'm saying, you know what, Aaron?

Speaker 1 Go to hell.

Speaker 3 I'm shipping somewhere else, brother. Trade me right now.
And guess what? I'm going to make a fuss about it. I'm going to make a big old fuss about it.

Speaker 1 People are wondering if we were gonna be able to coexist.

Speaker 3 Yeah, hey, guess what? I can coexist with DK. I can't coexist with this hippie because he can't even send me a text or a call to the moon for me.

Speaker 1 And plus, at the end of the day, look at those. Look at Aaron's arms.

Speaker 3 The guy's kind of jacked up.

Speaker 3 Has he been lifting a little bit more? Has he been working out? Maybe got a new better trainer, perhaps. Maybe he's kind of on his up and up when it comes to his physique.

Speaker 3 Because good lord, the man looks jacked.

Speaker 1 If I'm pissed, he might be taking a different strategy on the body. Look, I don't know.

Speaker 1 Look at the veins in his arms, the forearms. I mean, this does look like a match pain in heaven.
Okay, maybe, potentially. But the more I see of it, I'm like, oh, this is definitely...

Speaker 1 Hey, so he went into the Pittsburgh Steelers UPMC practice facility. I wonder if he had a meal there, too, just to fool out.
Maybe. What's my

Speaker 1 first time ever being a free agent? First time ever getting a chance to learn about what I'm going to potentially sign up for. Allegedly, the money's been figured out, and it is all good.

Speaker 1 Now it's just what does he want to do? And watching that video, it's like, I don't think he's retiring. No, no way.
You're backwards hat in the middle of a workout. Exactly.

Speaker 1 I don't think you're retiring at that point. And he's moving smoothly.
Remember, end of the season, a little bit more healthy on that Achilles. I think they looked a lot different.

Speaker 1 Just like we all kind of assumed, even though it was always dangling there, there's no way he's going out like that with the Jets. No, no.
Yeah, there's no way that's happening. No way.

Speaker 1 It seems to be a formality here happening inevitably, but what if it doesn't? Don't say the burn off me. Bear not be.
He could have called Justin Jefferson.

Speaker 5 He did. He called DK Metcalf.

Speaker 6 Just saying.

Speaker 1 Good point. Good point.
Fair point. What are the Vikings saying? There's a lot of things being said down at the owners' meetings down in Florida.
A lot of chitter chatter. A lot of hanging out.

Speaker 1 Jay Glazer was with every head coach. Everybody.
Smoking cigars.

Speaker 4 Jay Glazer football.

Speaker 1 That is Jay Glazer football. I wonder what Jay was bringing the boys around for.
You know, if you look to Jay Glazer's video that he posted on social, right next to him, Dan Quinn.

Speaker 1 And obviously, you got Shanahan, McDaniel, KOC. Those are the boys, the McVay boys.
You know, then he kind of go around, scatter through, I think maybe some newer coaches further away from Jay Glazer.

Speaker 1 The closer you are to Jay Glazer, obviously the better you are. And then Andy Reid's right next to him.
And I do want, pretty cool day, Jay Glazer says. I could fathom.
I could imagine.

Speaker 1 I do wonder what the meeting of the minds is happening here at owners meetings, because just like at the Combine, obviously they're watching. and scouting and doing that.

Speaker 1 But it's the conversations that are happening off hours that are kind of getting everything done here at the Combine, free agency and stuff.

Speaker 1 I wonder how many off-hour conversations are taking place down there amongst the coaches about like, hey, we need to try to work on this together. To better the league, we need to do this.

Speaker 1 Or, hey, who can hammer the most amount of beers here? I like a good camaraderie setting, and I'm happy Jay Glazer is seemingly the guy bringing them together.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he's obviously holding it court. That's Glazer football.
Interested to see what he breaks at some point. But these are, you know, a lot of conversations happen.

Speaker 4 We talk about it always being a fraternity amongst players. Same way with coaches.
I'm sure this is when some of the conversations may happen about maybe, hey, I just got a free agent from your team.

Speaker 4 Maybe some more conversations about the quarterback or receiver, how he's going to be in a locker room or in the community, other coaches, other people in their new spots, putting

Speaker 4 their coaching staffs together. So all these kind of conversations are happening.
Obviously, these rules that have been voted upon that will be passed, won't be passed, will be tabled.

Speaker 4 So all these things are happening, but I'm excited to see what Glaze comes out with pretty soon here.

Speaker 1 On that note, a man who's been in that circle before, guy's been in every circle before, I believe if we,

Speaker 1 if I recall the story correctly,

Speaker 1 he like slept on people's couches down at like the senior bowl whenever he was getting in. Went to school down in Georgia.
Very, very

Speaker 1 Emery. Yeah.
Prestigious.

Speaker 1 I think so. I think it's like...

Speaker 3 Yeah,

Speaker 7 very prestigious. Tough to get into.

Speaker 3 I think it's very selective.

Speaker 1 Very, very. You need to know the right people.
Yeah, I don't think it's just an easy. Okay.
Yeah, I would. I don't think I'm anywhere near getting in there or whatever.

Speaker 1 Anyways, chose to take the long road in the NFL media world. Insider, analyst, pundit, mock drafter, handshaker, Emmy award winner is what inevitably it all led to with Good Morning Football.

Speaker 1 Now he is joining ESPN, an absolute legend. Ladies and gentlemen, front of the program, Peter Schrager.

Speaker 1 What up, Shrakes?

Speaker 8 Dude, what an awesome intro. I cannot believe you're on air and fine after being in London like last night where I was watching you.

Speaker 8 You're incredible, dude.

Speaker 1 I love love it no that's you shriggs and uh to be quite uh transparent

Speaker 1 for those that have the ability and if there's a direct flight london at like a nighttime flight you land in the morning like 7 30 8 a.m have a day then whenever you fly if you can fly back at night you land 5 a.m 6 a.m in the morning so you're in there i think if you stay for a few days and you get onto their uh time i think you're in trouble But I think if you just go in, stick and move, because I did with Scotland last week.

Speaker 1 You know, I had to get back because Mr. LeBron Drames was going to stop by the Thunderdome.
So that's been actually fun to get over there. I assume you've traveled to Europe numerous times.

Speaker 1 I have had a blast. It was very, very nice over there.
Very nice. It's amazing.

Speaker 8 And I don't know, and I don't know how the wrestling fans are, but like we go for the NFL games and they just want sports and they want the NFL.

Speaker 8 And I was watching you on Raw and it's like, it's the same exact thing for the wrestling, obviously. And the juice is a little different.

Speaker 8 It's not like they're not spoiled or anything or that the American sports fans are spoiled, but they're so gracious and so happy that you're bringing your product to them.

Speaker 8 And it's like, oh, come on, this is a dream for us, too.

Speaker 8 It's truly awesome. And I thought you were amazing on it.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Well, they're born and raised in the hooligan atmosphere, too.
You know, like soccer games, they're singing through the game.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of action, even though there's not a lot of goals being scored. The fans, I don't want to say have to generate the juice, but they kind of do.
And they carry that into everything.

Speaker 1 It's almost like the Pacific Northwest, you know, like the Pacific Northwest, they're going to be good fans.

Speaker 1 Bingo, they'll show up for that. Like, yeah, that is,

Speaker 1 anyways, welcome to ESPN. We're pumped that you're here.
We just showed that video of Jay Glazer kind of sitting down, chit-chatting and mingling down at the owners' meetings.

Speaker 1 We assume you've been before, but let's talk about how some of these rules get passed that are currently happening. So, for instance, the tush push, it has been tabled for May.

Speaker 1 It has been tabled for May. What does that mean? Does that mean a commissioner or some people want to kind of rally and find some votes? What is normally happening behind the scenes, Shrek's?

Speaker 8 I've been doing this for a long time as far as like the competition committee goes. And usually you'll have a rule proposed, and maybe there'll be two or three people who are like, yes, let's do it.

Speaker 8 And this tush push took on a whole different life of its own, almost like it was an election of some sort, and that there were people lobbying other people for votes.

Speaker 8 It split 16 to 16, meaning it's a dead split as to who wants to get rid of of it and who wants to keep it. Now, you would need to get eight more votes to get rid of it.

Speaker 8 The league, though, you'd think that the league would have, the league is one of the main sources of like, hey, we don't have any injury data to push that it has to be removed.

Speaker 8 Like, if this was a bunch of injuries and guys were getting concussed and we have data, hard empirical evidence that there are knees being shattered because of this thing, well, then I promise you, the league would be pushing that direction.

Speaker 8 They don't have that data. There is no data around it.
What's interesting is you've got some big personalities who are lobbying to see some changes. And it's a different

Speaker 8 breed of coaches. It's McVay, it's LaFleur, Raheem Morris, these guys.
And I talked to, like, this tush push, it's gross. It's crap.
Like, it's not, it's not

Speaker 1 rugby. Yeah, it's a scrum, Shregs.
You know, it's an ode to the past while still paying tribute to today. The modern athlete takes on old school sport.

Speaker 1 And to your point, whenever Philly lines up and does it, it's like, okay, they're going to pick up two to four yards here

Speaker 1 and they're going to get a first down. So they're playing like CFL football.
It is first and nine for them, and they have three downs basically to get to that.

Speaker 1 And I think that's kind of their big point, right? Is if it was so easy, everybody would do it. Do we think more people now, if this thing remains, will start to try to implement it?

Speaker 8 Or how do you see it kind of going if the rule doesn't change going forward well that's an age-old debate jeff stoutman and the boys in philly have mastered this thing and teams have tried and they have not succeeded and one of the interesting people who's really against it is sean mcdermott who's on the who's on the committee and of course sean mcdermott ran several different quarterback sneaks in a big afc championship game that got stuffed uh you know one yard short and a lot of people are saying around like well hey just because you can't do it don't don't get rid of it and mcdermott's point is no that's an injury waiting to happen and this thing is hideous like it seeing frankie luvu jump over the line of scrimmage four times and having a ref come out and be like, look, I'm just going to give him a touchdown.

Speaker 8 That's not fun. That's not great.
But if you're an Eagles fan, you're like, you know, come and stop us. Like, figure it out.
And I think it's the whole thing about machismo and bravado.

Speaker 8 And it becomes this thing of like testosterone. And like, you know, we're the, we're the bullies in town.
I almost think it's kind of cool if they get rid of it.

Speaker 8 And the Eagles can look at each other and be like, we're that good at this that they had to ban it from the league.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Philadelphia Eagles doing this and being the team

Speaker 1 is so perfect for their city. I mean, it's so perfect.
Sorry, we're too tough. Okay.
Sorry, you Johns aren't gritty enough to be able to stop us. It's like, what a perfect city.
Perfect coach, too.

Speaker 1 Siriani, dogs. We want dogs.
Sorry, our dogs are hungrier than your dogs. You know, O-line, D-line, Howie, that's all he cares about.
Like, it is such a perfect situation.

Speaker 8 And that's my, that's also my favorite aspect of this. Howie obviously didn't play college or professional football.
Howie's, you know, this brilliant mind.

Speaker 8 But like, talking to Howie about, like, he's got his chest out a little bit.

Speaker 9 Like, oh, poor babies.

Speaker 8 Like, you guys can't drive this.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm losing the bat.

Speaker 8 And that bleeds throughout the entire city and it goes right through to Miles Teller and Bradley Cooper and the fans that you see, like, were just tougher than you.

Speaker 1 Like, bring it.

Speaker 8 And, you know, you see these coaches, and McVay is obviously, he's, you know, you saw him at Whitworth in the gym. Like, he's no softie, but he's like, it's just not good football.
It's gross.

Speaker 8 Like, it's a rugby play. I don't, no one, that's not what we want to encourage, but it's now split.

Speaker 8 And as far as whether it'll get changed, I don't think the NFL on this one has a strong point of view. It's going to be how hard do these people want to lobby to get the eight votes?

Speaker 8 And then it becomes like any election where, like, are you going to go campaign?

Speaker 8 Like, is McVay going to spend Maine, the next April and May, like calling other coaches who are neutral and being like, I really think, I don't know if he's that passionate about it.

Speaker 1 Okay, so let's roll through the rules that did pass here quickly. Kickoff will now go to the 35 after a touchback, which is good.

Speaker 1 Kickers also are allowed to bring their own balls into the games, which is awesome. Look for punters to hit massive balls.

Speaker 1 Like, this is going to benefit the punters greatly and obviously kickers as well.

Speaker 1 But every time a punter goes on the field, if he's going to have a broken in ball, there's a chance we see some like 5'8, 5'9 hang time, maybe even

Speaker 1 like a 6-0 hang time in the game.

Speaker 4 You guys were putting brand new balls before?

Speaker 1 No, so it wasn't brand new balls. It was like 30 minutes of broken in before the game.

Speaker 1 One equipment manager from each team was deemed the person to break in the balls. And then an official would come watch.
They had a brush, a towel, and a squirt water bottle.

Speaker 1 And they had 30 minutes under supervision to break in the balls. Highly anxiety riddled for the equipment managers who have a lot of other shit to deal with right before the game.

Speaker 1 And then our guy would come out. His name was Frog.
He'd be dripping in sweat. He'd be like, I got some good ones for you guys today.
And we'd say, thank you, Frog.

Speaker 1 And then Frog would have a great Christmas, you know, because that is a

Speaker 1 big.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'd take care of Frog, obviously.
Frog, good man, good lad, also worked his ass ass off in there for 30 minutes every single week. There's some teams that have shitty ones.

Speaker 1 Back in the day, it was brand new balls. So there's always been a lot of K-ball conversation.
Now they're going to be able to bring their own balls to the games.

Speaker 1 Look for punters to hit gigantic balls.

Speaker 8 You know who's big on like an advocate for special teams is Darren Rizzi, and he's got a big voice in the competition committee.

Speaker 8 So Rizzi, of course, the Riz was obviously the interim coach of the Saints, but was instrumental in changing the dynamic kickoff.

Speaker 8 But when you talk about the competition committee and the different voices who matter, obviously, like you know, Tomlin's been there forever, and and there's voices like McVay, who's big on that, and McDermott, but like a voice like Darren Rinsey, who's been doing the special teams stuff, who's now the Baronco special teams coordinator, he's almost a voice of like, hey, here's what the punters and kickers need.

Speaker 8 And it's kind of cool to have that voice also, you know, vocalizing in those rooms.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't want to say that Coach Riz is the one texting me, but I'll just say my source says that used to be an interim head coach and is now on special teams sent a text, we fucking did it.

Speaker 1 It passed. Touchback 35.
That was the Texas.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he's like jacked, though.
Like, they're like all jacked about it. So obviously.

Speaker 8 You would love this crew of like the Parcells guys. And it's like Joe Vitt and Sean Payton and Riz.
And they're just like the last bastion of like the old school. Like, this is how it should be.

Speaker 8 And, and, and Darren Rizzy is definitely carrying that torch from the special team side.

Speaker 1 Okay, so new ball touchbacks go to 35. We kind of expected that.
Hopefully that'll be good for the landing zone and more returns.

Speaker 1 They also were able to add another returner into the back, into the middle area, which is good. Replay assist.
Let's talk about this, Shrags.

Speaker 1 This was kind of happening last year at the end of the year, I think, without us kind of knowing it. They were kind of growing it, expanding it.
And I think it was good for the game.

Speaker 1 They saw the same thing. What does this mean, you think, from your eyes? And what does the future mean in your eyes with this rule change, Shrags?

Speaker 8 Well, I think Kevin's on it here. And some context on this.
They're not going to have New York throw a flag.

Speaker 8 Like, New York can't say, actually, that was pass interference, or actually, that was defensive holding. New York can't do that.

Speaker 8 But if a flag is thrown and it's egregious, New York City can come and pipe into the referees and be like, pick that flag up. Like,

Speaker 8 that's not going to, that's not the call. So that's a change.
It's progress.

Speaker 8 I don't think we're ever going to go back and do it where we did the pass interference reviews, which we had a couple of years back, which was a nightmare and would take 15 minutes and stop a game.

Speaker 8 And then the refs would always side with their original call anyway. But this is one where there can be an impartial party up in New York saying, hey, actually, that one wasn't.

Speaker 8 You can pick up the flag, but they cannot demand a flag be thrown after the fact.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think that's a smart move.

Speaker 1 And as long as they're quick and efficient and the right people are looking at the Xbox or whatever they're running it with and sending it down there to your point is good.

Speaker 1 The overtime stuff, I think that pass they're going to have the same as you get a chance to answer, but it is in a 10-minute period as opposed to in playoffs.

Speaker 1 It's never ending until somebody wins the game. And I think they'll consider it a successful league meeting down there.
Away to go, boys.

Speaker 1 Go ahead. Real quick,

Speaker 8 that glazer video that you showed. So that's like Jay's, like, that's Jay's Christmas.
Like, this is his, and that is like 20 years in the making.

Speaker 8 And it started with like him and Tomlin getting drinks, and then it expanded. And it's the thing that, like, it's the, it's the Tuesday after the coaches in the NFC have their breakfast.

Speaker 8 So everyone's kind of done. And Jay gets all the head coaches together.
And having been at that table with him, Jay was cool enough to invite me several times at these league meetings. It's hilarious.

Speaker 8 And they're not talking about free agents.

Speaker 8 I'm sure they are getting bombed right now because they've been seeing a conference thing for the last 48 hours listening to presentations and dark lighting and dealing with their kids and their wives who are all there.

Speaker 8 And this is like their one time away. So Brian Dable's got his legs crossed.

Speaker 1 The cigar will be coming out shortly.

Speaker 8 And Andy Reid is hanging. He's not a drinker, but he'll hang and have a good time too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Mormon will toss down a Diekill. Congrats to the boys.
Congrats to the boys. You earned it out there.
All All right,

Speaker 1 Shrek's, we got some questions about other stuff that we know that you will know the answer to. Obviously, one of the greatest mock drafters in the history of mock drafts.

Speaker 1 Debutch has a question for you, pal.

Speaker 4 Absolutely. On that mock drafting note, Hasm has basically come out and said, look, took a big swing in the miss on Deshaun.
That lies on me. Take full accountability.

Speaker 4 But now sitting there at number two, the T Leaves are kind of saying momentum is going towards Abdul Carter going and pairing up with Miles Garrett in Cleveland.

Speaker 4 What's your thoughts and feelings on what Cleveland's going to do with that number two pick as it stands right now

Speaker 8 well they're not there yet here's the key thing i think everyone doing the mock drafts and i respect it i like to wait until about two weeks beforehand when the pro days are done you know shador sanders hasn't had his pro day yet it's this week it's april 4th and he hasn't had any private workouts with teams so you're talking about if this guy's going to be my second overall pick he didn't throw at the combine we might have met with him for 15 minutes but i got to get my hands on him i got to a see him at his pro day and then b i've got to bring him into our building and see how he interacts and how it goes uh

Speaker 8 you look at Cleveland's quarterback situation. Finally, they're ripping the bandaid off.
They're going to pay Deshaun Watson. He's going to get paid.
But Kenny Pickett's the quarterback for now.

Speaker 8 There's a lot of smoke around them making a play for Cousins. Raheem Morris doubled down this morning saying, you know, we're happy with Cousins being a backup.
Keep an eye on that.

Speaker 8 But I wouldn't open any doors and say that, hey, just because.

Speaker 8 you know, they're done with Watson, this means it's Shador Sanders. You're right, Deeba, that it sounds like Abdul Carter.
You put him and Miles Garrett together. You have Kenny Pickett.

Speaker 8 And if Kirk Cousins comes to be great, but there's also some other quarterbacks that they can look at later on. And that might be Tyler Shuck.
That might be Jackson Dart, Quinn Ewers.

Speaker 8 No one feels like they are so desperate right now to get Shador Sanders. But if he blows them away, that's an option they can do.
They leave the door open. They can do so.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Will Howard is well sharing Cora as you're doing.

Speaker 1 Got it back home.

Speaker 8 I was going to say to you, I got to tell you, when you guys were at Ohio State, I forget, it was probably before the playoff game. It was freezing cold.

Speaker 8 You guys were just there and I was working for NFL Network and Fox and it was like a loosey-goosey day you guys had on there and my wife and I are watching and I'm like, I really appreciate these guys.

Speaker 8 I got to join this crowd. Like you guys were, it was the day you were messing with Zaire Franklin and I'm like, oh, I like it.

Speaker 1 Messing with Zaire Franklin.

Speaker 8 But I'm like, the fact that you have this ability to go with your boys a day before a college football playoff game, sit in the cold, laugh your asses off. It's great content.

Speaker 8 And I so appreciate even being on the the show now because I wasn't able to this past season. The sky's the limits now and you guys do such a great job.

Speaker 1 Strange, we're lucky to have you, Benny. Yeah, it's great to have you.
It's not always, you know, Lucy-Goosey is not always good, you know, is what we learn, but we're trying to get better every day.

Speaker 1 We're trying our best to get better to be an additive to society.

Speaker 1 But I will say, those sideline passes games are the most absurd things of all time. And that's where we saw.
That's where we saw Will. I mean, it was just like

Speaker 1 we saw C.J. Stroud, and we're not going to act like we were the only people that saw it.
But at that time, C.J. Stroud was not being talked about as being the guy.
Like, this is not the guy who's.

Speaker 8 No, he threw that pass against Georgia, 80 yards, and everyone's like, wait a second.

Speaker 1 No, not even that. He jogged out in warm-ups when we were there.
And it's like, this dude's big, very, very big. And it's, I think it's the moxie is what I want to see is like.

Speaker 1 how the teammates feel about it because the teammates always know like, hey, is this a good teammate or not? The teammates will tell you whether or not this is a guy.

Speaker 1 With Will Howard, it was like after that Michigan loss, with how much money's being paid to their roster,

Speaker 1 with how many expectations there were on this particular team,

Speaker 1 Jeremiah Smith is best player in football.

Speaker 1 There could have been a lot of people that turned on this guy, Will, especially with what happened at the end of the Oregon game early in the year, whenever he ran and the clock ran out and everybody was like, this is the dumbest guy of all time.

Speaker 1 A lot of those teammates could have said, it's this guy's fault that we're losing this season and this might be our final season or we're going all in.

Speaker 1 And instead, he had a relationship with all of his teammates. He had handshakes with all of his teammates.
It was like they loved him.

Speaker 1 And then what we watched him do, I mean, that was what, negative 10 degrees or whatever it was in that particular time there. What we watched him do, up close and personal, there's two balls.

Speaker 1 We're literally standing right there. It's like, this guy's a baller.

Speaker 8 I think he's crazy, isn't it? So, like, you have the experience with game day. And then, of course, when you guys are doing those simulcasts, you get to be there.

Speaker 8 But for years, I was a sideline reporter. And what you see on the sidelines is I get two hits a game and I'm like, this guy's ankles hurt.
And this coach yelled at this player.

Speaker 8 But what you don't get is that I'm there three hours before a kickoff talking to the coaches. I'm there three hours before kickoff watching how the quarterback interacts.

Speaker 8 And for these draft pundits, a lot of them see stats, they see combine, but the coaches don't look at it necessarily that way.

Speaker 8 The coaches say, oh, well, I actually have a scout who was at the game when Oregon State

Speaker 8 played against, you know, Stanford two years ago. And this guy in pregame did something.
Like, that's why it's the total package. You can't just do evaluations based on film and by combine.

Speaker 8 There's all the intangible stuff. And I think you guys being on-site, as I like to call it, like touch the grass a little bit, get in there, see it.

Speaker 8 You can kind of navigate and you'll know, you'll know which guys are the goobers too.

Speaker 1 Like you can see that also. Like, oh, that guy sinks.

Speaker 8 Like, I don't want that guy on my team. And the teams know that as well.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I had a chance to do that Thursday night football Remy operation with ESPN four or five years ago, six or whatever it was, six years ago, maybe seven,

Speaker 1 2019. 29 years, so six years ago.
Molly McGrath was the sideline reporter. You know, know, and sideline reporters, like to your point, only see them like two, three times a game.

Speaker 1 You hear them drop in and everything. But the amount of like info that she was sending up to the booth, like at all times, it was like, oh, you're, the sideline reporters are like,

Speaker 1 they're your eyes. Like they are, they are literally the eyes down on the side.
Like, hey, just a heads up, blah, blah, blah. Just happened.

Speaker 1 And it's like, all of a sudden that becomes like, ah, need a camera on this, need to do this. It's like,

Speaker 1 and you're really in it. Like, you're, you're in the middle.

Speaker 4 Coach is talking shit to you.

Speaker 1 Yes. Doing a touch around.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Coach Fry.

Speaker 1 I did a

Speaker 8 Bills Dolphins game a couple years ago, Saturday night game. It was cold.
Josh Allen came back and like beat two of, but I got like a snowball thrown at me in Buffalo.

Speaker 8 And like, then like everyone was like looking at me. I'm like, let's go.
I'm on the field. Let's roll.
Let's go. Let's do it.

Speaker 1 And it's like, you're feeling it.

Speaker 8 You're actually in the action. And to that Buffalo fan who threw a snowball at me, I'm on ESPN now.
Okay. So long.

Speaker 1 Yeah, great throw. Great throw.
You had to be pretty far away to hit me. I was on a satellite.
But with that being said,

Speaker 1 I'm an Emmy award-winning host. Hell yeah.
Hell yeah. Conjure Strakes.
Emmy Award winner, brother. And hopefully there's more where that came from.

Speaker 1 All right, we got some more questions, obviously, about everything happening around the NFL world. Con man's got one for you.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Straggs. Jed York came out and basically said, hey, mid-season 2024, we all decided, you know what, we're going to give Brock Purdy a few more shekels after underpaying him for so long.

Speaker 3 And now it feels like his contract is looming before the start of next year. Are you hearing anything as far as numbers go?

Speaker 3 Do you think he'll be a 50 plus million year or million dollars per year guy?

Speaker 3 Or do you think he might be in the 40s range so that Sam Fran can continue to build around him and have one of the best rosters in football?

Speaker 8 It's really interesting because the gravy train was going there for a while and they, you know, against maybe better judgment in their hearts, were like, all right. We'll pay Debo this number.

Speaker 8 We'll pay Brandon Ayuk this number. We're all in.
And this is the year we're going to be all in. The window is now.

Speaker 8 And we got Brock on this rookie rookie quarterback you know seventh round pick salary and then it all came undone uh

Speaker 8 you know so someone in the league made a comparison to what's going on in the u.s government right now and it's like all right we got to just stop the bleeding and we're going to analyze everything and like someone's going there yet

Speaker 1 oh they're aiing they're taking over dozing

Speaker 8 got it got it got it okay got it did birdie did purdy miss the boat on when the niners were wheeling and dealing or are they saving all of their money or shekels as you call it to give it to him i don't see brock Purdy making north of $55 million.

Speaker 8 I don't see Brock Purdy being one of the top highest paid quarterbacks. It's going to be a discussion with his agent, him, and what does he want? What does he need?

Speaker 8 And then you never want to take a hometown discount, but you also realize that, you know, your Brock Purdy is 50 million the right number? Is 48 not the right number? Is 45 the right number?

Speaker 8 Can 40 be the right number? So curious to see where it goes out here, but obviously they want to sign Brock Purdy.

Speaker 8 That's been John Lynch's stance forever kyle strong and his agent met with the team at the combine like these are open conversations but i don't think this is the justin herbert deal or the trevor lawrence deal or it's well every other young quarterback got paid we got to pay him the niners it's almost like the buck stops here let's be fiscally smart right now because we might have made some errors in the past i know uh you won 55 but quick question 55 not bad 48 same right basically how about 44 then 44 and 48 basically same we get you right there 40 think about what we we can do

Speaker 1 with that extra 15. The way you wield and deal with and negotiated rate there is exactly the sound a team would have for a player.

Speaker 1 For Brock Purdy, it is an interesting situation because, as Connor would say, the shekels have been pretty low

Speaker 1 because he was the last pick of the draft. So he has had a very low NFL contract.
And, you know, you want to talk about Doge in the government.

Speaker 1 San Francisco's government takes a good amount of, said, as connor would say shekels okay out of the contract to you know give back to the city and to the state and to the country right that's where it all goes and then you know that has been a pretty big amount so if you go from making the least possible basically for a game literally the least possible that you could as a draft pick the least possible as a starting quarterback by far but just as a player that is drafted as whole so would a 45 million dollar a year be welcomed because it was like i was just making $900,000 last year.

Speaker 1 So like, is that the sell? Yeah, every ex-player and every NFLPA representative and every agent is like, Brock, don't you even think about this?

Speaker 1 That is what they're going to be saying.

Speaker 4 He's in a bad position leverage-wise, not because of his draft position, but because they still own his rights for what, the next three years if they want to, if they want to play hard, yeah, if they want to play hard,

Speaker 4 franchise a couple times and still wait another year to pay him. So he is in a bad situation there, but you don't take less than 50.
You know,

Speaker 4 he deserves, you know, especially with the salary cap going up, at least what Trevor Lawrence is getting.

Speaker 4 Jordan Love, what has he proved in comparison to what Brock Purdy has done in the league so far? So I think Brock, you know, he deserves around that 55 at least.

Speaker 4 Josh Allen not breaking that 55 mark, not getting up the deck. I think that kind of suppressed the market a little bit for the quarterback.
Salary cap jumping up, though, Brock Purdy deserves 55.

Speaker 4 But we'll see how it plays out with the leverage that Niners have.

Speaker 1 Good luck, Purdy. Look at it.
Good luck, Purdy. We're both for it.
Hey, good luck to the Niners. I mean, I saw Lynch hand over a lighter for a cigar at the diner with Jay Glazer.
Was it a cigar?

Speaker 1 They're smoking weed down there.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I've seen it.
I look over there. We're in that circle.

Speaker 3 I see a couple SIGs guys.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're seeing some SIGs down there? Fraves was there. You talk like people are packing SIGs down there at the end meeting?

Speaker 3 Fraves was in that circle, but you know, I saw Liam Cohen, and I know him when I see one, and I know he's at the cigarette.

Speaker 1 At what time do you think Fraves is double cigarettes?

Speaker 1 Two sigs three thirty four patches three thirty it's twelve thirty seven eastern right now probably an hour ago started an hour ago yeah you're right i guess there was a good brunch moment probably when someone came up and was like we need you to ban the tush push mike and he was like all right i'm sick of this what did he say actually we're not gonna let lamar jackson run anymore just so just because nobody can stop it we're gonna just stop start banning stuff no think about the conversation in in that room about the tush push from the meathead football guys brable for instance who might have had two cigarettes in his mouth might have could could not just unlit cigs both of them lit you know there's a chance at a cigar in the middle there's a chance he's three piece in that yeah triple stack and then you say

Speaker 1 we're not playing football anymore and then you've got

Speaker 1 somebody on the other side

Speaker 8 you've got mike mcdaniel in sunglasses and a gucci belt being like we aren't trying to play football

Speaker 1 actually if you think about it like if i need to look at all these personalities

Speaker 7 i assume that's what that is afterwards that you know glaze is setting up.

Speaker 7 He's going to get everyone and get three drinks in them and then he's going to be like, all right, boys, 16 on 16.

Speaker 3 Non-tush, push, tush, push. You guys are going to beat the fucking shit out of each other.

Speaker 1 And whoever wins, that's what we're going to vote on.

Speaker 2 The knowing Glaze there.

Speaker 8 He's like, I got Guy Fieri here. Stallone is here.

Speaker 1 We got Colonel Kribangle. And we got, you know,

Speaker 8 Chuck Liddell. They're all going to play the road.

Speaker 1 I'm going to vote too. Hey, these are all compliments because this could be real.

Speaker 1 What we are saying right now could be real. Also, in my algo,

Speaker 1 more than I would, you know, every once in a while, I got to have a nice chat with the algo. You got to go to the search bar and like be like, hey, don't do it, man.

Speaker 1 No, you got to have a good conversation with your algorithm. Yeah.
Those group MMA fights have been showing up a little bit more.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Have you seen that? I have not. Oh,

Speaker 1 I just in there now. Yeah, it's great.

Speaker 1 Six on six.

Speaker 1 In a cage.

Speaker 1 In a cage. Yeah.
They're in a cage. And then once one's out,

Speaker 1 it's now six on five. Yeah.
And then four on one. Yeah, you see some of these.
You see some of these.

Speaker 4 What country?

Speaker 1 I'd assume it's Russia. Yeah, not here.
Okay. Well, well,

Speaker 1 Eastern.

Speaker 1 Eastern block. Yeah,

Speaker 1 okay. It's insane.
Have you seen the one where they're actually

Speaker 1 using a weapon? Swords? Yeah, the ones with like old topics.

Speaker 1 They're like, yeah, look that one up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the whole thing, armor. They're not speaking our language, and I'm not sure we would be welcomed at the event, but it does seem like something that would be electrifying.

Speaker 1 And maybe Jay is setting it up tonight.

Speaker 1 16 on 16, putting the cage up around the pool. Maybe it is just one big pool basketball game.
Dan Quinn with that backward

Speaker 1 basketball.

Speaker 1 MCDC coming. Nerd, you know.

Speaker 1 I mean, there's a chance. Drowning Mike McDaniel.
All right, let's get back. None of this is going to happen, maybe.
Maybe. It should.
You know, none of it we would. We don't know.

Speaker 8 Zach Taylor from Deep, just money.

Speaker 1 Oh, sorry. Zach Taylor sitting on the side of the pool, getting a pass.
Got to make that. You missed your one opportunity there.
You're getting. getting done.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Andy Reid down low, getting bored. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 With a t-shirt on in the pool. His t-shirt just has big walrus on it.

Speaker 1 Walrus, Walrus, kick it, kick it. So many opportunities.
Hey, Jay, make it happen down.

Speaker 1 It's on you, Jay Glazer. You either do it or you hate football, Glazer.
Hope they're having a good time. Tony has a question for you, Shregs.
Yeah, Shregs.

Speaker 5 You brought up Kirk Cousins, maybe tied to the Browns. You know, he has a pass with Stefanski.
You said Raheem Morris kind of put some chillers on that.

Speaker 5 But Arthur Blank said that he sat down with Kirk for an hour and took five pages of notes, handed those off to football people, said, you do with those notes what you will.

Speaker 5 But Breed said, Blank definitely did not close the door on a trade.

Speaker 5 Do you think it might be the Browns? And if it's not the Browns, and let's say Aaron doesn't sign with the Steelers, do you think Kirk Cousins has a chance to play with the Steelers?

Speaker 5 Or do you think the Browns is potentially the only place that Kirk could go right now and be a starter potentially?

Speaker 8 Look, the Browns thing makes a lot of sense for two big reasons. One, there's a gaping hole at quarterback.
I mean, Pickett could hold the fort, but he's not your only option.

Speaker 8 And then two, Stefanski and Cousins have a really good personal relationship. I don't know why Kirk Cousins was at a Chipotle in Ohio over the weekend, but he was.

Speaker 8 That was confusing to me, but that also leads you to think, wait, what's going on here? Truth of the matter is, Pennix is the future in Atlanta. They're paying Cousins a boatload.

Speaker 8 Can they figure something out contract-wise?

Speaker 8 And is it really logical to think that Kirk Cousins, who signed on to the Atlanta Falcons to be the starter of the Atlanta Falcons, is thrilled to be the backup next year and to be grooming Michael Pennix for a team that didn't even make the playoffs this season?

Speaker 8 At least in Cleveland, he goes to a quarterbacks coach in a whisper that he's had, he's got a relationship, a fan base that would be thrilled to have him, and he's an upgrade, and he's the quarterback one.

Speaker 8 It makes sense, of course, the timing. They'd have to wait to be able to do this.

Speaker 8 But Miles Garrett, which Pat, I was very vocal about on my last home, how we wasted an entire Super Bowl week listening to Miles Garrett talk about wanting to play for a super bowl champion and go on radio row and speak to anybody with a microphone how all he wants to do is is raise a lombardi and then two weeks later get 40 million and sign and say i want to be in cleveland actually but bottom garrett did say that he knows of a plan at quarterback and he's comfortable with that plan i can't imagine it's with a rookie quarterback or it's i'm thrilled to go to war with kenny pickett Well, Kenny Pickett's Super Bowl champion.

Speaker 1 Last guy touched the ball in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 I think Miles would be. I don't want to speak for Miles, but I think

Speaker 4 Shador Sanders or Kirk Cousins, which one would you be more comfortable with?

Speaker 1 I think if I'm coming back to the bottom of the

Speaker 8 football, I don't know if either one's the answer right away.

Speaker 1 Well, no,

Speaker 1 he decided, though, $40 million was enough to sway his thoughts.

Speaker 4 He's there for another, what, four years?

Speaker 1 Four years, three, four years, we expect. I mean, top of the draft.

Speaker 4 Kirk.

Speaker 1 Kirk and Abduel Carter, though, too.

Speaker 1 Kirk, do we remember?

Speaker 4 We watched Kirk Cousins play football. Did we all

Speaker 1 know he was coming? I wouldn't watch coming back. I know he was coming back football.
Miles Garrett getting tripled. Abdul Carter on the other side as well, D.
Bucks.

Speaker 4 But look, I'm with you.

Speaker 1 Kirk got paid 170 last off. Taking out what you're putting.

Speaker 4 We watched it. Kirk was hot.
He was hot coming in, you know, coming off the Achilles.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you this. Are they paying him?

Speaker 8 Kirk Cousins against the Raiders, and I think it was Desmond Ritter under center for it, was the worst performance I've ever seen from a quarterback in a game.

Speaker 8 And I said, that guy looks like a shell of what he once was. And it came out afterwards.

Speaker 10 His shoulder was all busted up.

Speaker 1 He was hurt.

Speaker 3 How much money do they spend on quarterbacks if they trade for Kirk Cousins and are paying Deshaun Watson?

Speaker 1 Well, that's 37, right? It's 27 this year, then 10 million guaranteed next year because they did that thing what a week ago or whatever and kept him on the roster. So that's an extra 37 million.

Speaker 3 So Shadir Sanders is the number two overall pick is all that sounds like.

Speaker 1 Can't the Falcons pay salary in the trade? Yes, they could definitely pick up some of it, right? Just like the Broncos did for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 1 So, I mean, I guess that could be a part of the trade, but you'd have to give up what, two? Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 Why would you give up overall?

Speaker 1 Or what, like two picks? Not the number two overall. And doesn't everyone have a pick up?

Speaker 8 i think this might be one of those where it's more like russell and uh in seattle and denver where you're it's it's a much more even trade as far as who's getting i don't think the falcons have any leg to stand on to demand a bunch of draft picks for kirk cousins so atlanta would have to pay it and they wouldn't get a lot of uh yeah i think i think this is more let's cut our losses if they're doing that and let's give kirk a chance to start somewhere okay so atlanta pays the bills then so then it is possible then it is a cheaper contract because whenever you say shador kirk it's like Shador, you're getting a very cheap, not very cheap, but you get it.

Speaker 1 A rookie contract quarterback, which is what the San Francisco 49ers have with Brock Birdie, now much different as a number two overall pick as opposed to Mr. Irrelevant.

Speaker 1 But still, the rookie contract at quarterback is a massive ordeal, especially if you got debts all over the place, which

Speaker 1 what do you do?

Speaker 8 I mean, if you're the Browns and you don't love Shador Sanders and you have the number two overall pick and this kid Carter is what you think he is and is a game changer.

Speaker 8 Do you sacrifice having that guy for 10 years to draft a quarterback that might have been the third or fourth quarterback taken in the draft last year?

Speaker 8 And just because it's the year of the draft that we have the number two pick?

Speaker 8 Like it's this constant question of shopping when you're hungry and you don't want to go to the grocery store when you're starving because you end up buying all sorts of stuff that you don't want the next day.

Speaker 8 Shador Sanders, if you love him, take him. And you think he's the future, that's great.
And Miles Garrett might know that he's the guy and they feel great. Then that's okay.

Speaker 8 But if he doesn't blow you away and you're Stefanski and you know quarterbacks and you're Andrew Berry and you know quarterbacks and you're like Do you just take them to take them?

Speaker 8 So you say we got our quarterback?

Speaker 10 That's tough.

Speaker 1 Yeah, don't go shopping when you're starving or stoned, you know, but right now they're in a situation where who who they've been starving and stoned for a long time. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, especially now they're more starving and stoned than they've ever been. They're paying they're paying a lot of money.

Speaker 1 I've had some coming out and being like, yep.

Speaker 1 That one's on me, Bucks.

Speaker 1 Me and D, we certainly thought it was the case. It has been an organizational failure from top to bottom, and that starts with us.

Speaker 1 That's what we all assumed why, you know, Andrew Berry and Stefanski are still there is because we feel like a decision was made above them that has kind of handicapped them mightily.

Speaker 1 If it is, Kirk Cousins going up there and they're able to go on a run. You know what? The dog pound, you didn't deserve it.
You didn't deserve it over there. Last question quickly here, Shreigs.

Speaker 1 We can't thank you enough. Go ahead, Ty.

Speaker 7 Yeah, Shreigs, we heard Ben Johnson, who everyone knows, he's a wonderkinned. He's the next guy, but he basically came out and said, hey, listen, EPA is more important than turnovers.

Speaker 7 And although last year, Caleb Williams, I think, had the second lowest EPA for quarterbacks in the NFL, is this something everyone knew?

Speaker 7 Is he like a big statistical guru and like analytics and all that kind of stuff? Because going in, I thought he was just, you know, straight ball, X's and O's.

Speaker 7 And now I'm all of a sudden kind of getting Brandon Staley vibes out of Ben Johnson.

Speaker 1 Like, what? What? What's the

Speaker 1 best Packers fan, obviously?

Speaker 8 I've gotten to know Ben pretty well. And, you know, I think there's this thought that either a he's this like

Speaker 8 dorky x's and o's sitting in the bottom of a basement just draw plays like i'm i'm a mad scientist or there's this other feeling of it like that he's he's this you know uh i i'm gonna i'm gonna shove it in the face of the packers because i'm gonna be that guy Truth of the matter is he's the total package.

Speaker 8 This is a guy who I think comes in here and values that stuff and might have said those stats, but I promise you, he's not looking at Caleb Williams because of something called EPA and what excites him.

Speaker 8 He's looking at Caleb Williams because he sees completely untapped potential, an awesome arm, a good kid, and a guy that they think they finally built an offensive line for this season with Jonah Jackson and Tooney.

Speaker 8 We can go through it all, but they're like, this gives him a shot. But he had options.
As we know, he could have gone anywhere. Yes, the money was good.

Speaker 8 He also really wanted to work with Caleb Williams. So I don't think it's because of turnover numbers or EPA.
I think that was him just playing to the wonks a little bit.

Speaker 1 Love that. Playing to the wonks a little bit up there in Chicago.

Speaker 1 EPA, earned points added is a stat per play, basically, where it's, did you help your team on this play or did you hurt your team?

Speaker 8 It's like your plus minus.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's a plus minus for basketball. It's for football.
Do you know who is the worst ever? Will Evans, if you're alone.

Speaker 4 Wait, what do you mean? Ever? Last season?

Speaker 3 Maybe last season.

Speaker 1 I don't know. You see these points.
I don't know how it can get much worse. You should see it.
I'm telling you, there's some bad, bad, bad, bad, bad plays in the EPA. But who's the one judging?

Speaker 1 You know, like that's the whole thing. And then the overall points, you have to play a certain amount of plays because then they just get added on to.
Like earned point average per play.

Speaker 1 Some people are like negative 0.17 or 0.14.

Speaker 1 But if you don't play as many plays, you won't be like negative 69 or negative 94 or whatever it is. You'll just be negative 48.

Speaker 1 So whatever the case is, this stat seemingly says, do you stay on schedule? And do you hurt your team or do you you help your team every single play? It's a new one.

Speaker 8 I'm no meathead, Pat, but I think this show is going to be higher rated than the LeBron episode last week because I'm on it.

Speaker 8 But I think the ratings just tanked when you said the word EPA and started going through it. And that's the problem.
Viewers don't want to hear it.

Speaker 8 And we as media are trying to grasp it, but it is value there. in those buildings and there are teams of analytical people putting these numbers together.
I'm just not hip to the stats.

Speaker 8 To me, it's I want to see the guys throw and I want to see how they interact with the teammates.

Speaker 1 What was the other one? There was another one. Expected.

Speaker 1 completion percentage over

Speaker 4 expectations. Yeah,

Speaker 1 there is. We could sent these over because Hembo obviously will send us some stats and every once in a while there will just be this fucking stat that is not real.

Speaker 7 DVOA.

Speaker 1 You know, and it's like, all right, I understand.

Speaker 1 Hembo, I appreciate you, but I don't know how that one applies, but smart people do, which you are one of them. And we can't thank you enough for joining us.
And congrats on the ESPN deal, brother.

Speaker 8 I'm so excited, really happy to be here.

Speaker 8 And one of the primary reasons I sought out ESPN as a home is because of the relationship you guys and your team has had with me and the ability to work together. It's really cool, Pat.

Speaker 1 Schrager, we love you, man. You're the best.
Ladies and gentlemen, Peter Schrager.

Speaker 1 Schrag's been good to us. Oh, yeah.
And he knows. Yeah,

Speaker 1 he's, yeah, he's, like, I talked about coming out of Emory College. I think it's like the most expensive school.

Speaker 1 Yeah, very hard to get it. I think it's like,

Speaker 1 I think it's all bazillionaires.

Speaker 4 What's their specialty?

Speaker 1 Bazillionaire. Money? I think just networking.

Speaker 1 But probably business.

Speaker 5 Yeah, they got 11% acceptance rate, which is low.

Speaker 4 Any other people we know came out of here?

Speaker 1 I learned about it when Shraigs was on the show. He said, I went to a school in Atlanta.

Speaker 1 It's like a small school in Atlanta, and you would have thought you would heard of all the schools in Atlanta because it's Atlanta. And then he said, Emory never heard of it.
We looked it up.

Speaker 1 It's like one of the most expensive schools in the history of schools, I think.

Speaker 1 Legit. Not only acceptance rate, but I think also like there has to be a massive bank account behind that one as well.

Speaker 1 So I'd assume the networking pretty good down there you know those schools have a lot of these things happening at all times just like uh you know camps or or some of these high schools these private academies or anything like that that's but he he decided to take the route of like

Speaker 1 i'm going to the senior bowl in mobile and i'm sleeping on shitty mattresses in motels to try to meet people and he met a bunch of low-level guys basically coaches and scouts and through the years they've all kind of moved up as he has moved up and it's like uh strengths is plugged that's why his mock draft yeah is always the closest and uh he's a good get for espn oh yeah i personally believe that good morning football run he had over there was great they wanted emmy obviously they did their thing i'm pumped he's with espn joining us now ladies and gentlemen is a man from mlb network from pittsburgh one of the greatest yinsers of all time

Speaker 1 ladies and gentlemen the host of the mayor's office office

Speaker 1 sean casey yeah yeah yeah mayor

Speaker 1 fellas mayor it is great to see you we have a heart out in five minutes which is unfair for the way that you operate, but we are appreciative of you being able to join us on such quick notice.

Speaker 1 You, former hitting coach for the Yankees, the guy who was able to get good wood on a ball went up. You know, that is what your baseball resume would say about how you played.

Speaker 1 These torpedo bats are taking the world by storm. Obviously, that's Jazz Chisholm.
He has done a fantastic job with these. The Yankees have hit a bunch of bombs.
I believe it was

Speaker 1 Ellie De La Cruz last night has four hits, two bombs, and his first night using this torpedo bat. So a couple quick questions.
How come this hasn't always been the bat of choice?

Speaker 1 Why haven't we always had it? And is this thing going to get banned or promoted in the MLB, do you think?

Speaker 2 Well, it's definitely going to get promoted. I mean,

Speaker 2 it goes through all the specs. It's totally legal.
I think the biggest thing they did here,

Speaker 2 because they have, there's a bat performance lab that Marucci and Victus bats have down in Baton Rouge. And I think a lot of the players have been going there for years.

Speaker 2 And if you go back to Paul Goldschmidt in 2022, on the bottom of his bat, like he had a bat like this, and at the bottom of his bat was like a puck shape.

Speaker 1 And everyone's like, oh man, what's going on?

Speaker 2 Goldsmith's bat. And what they found is when he was swinging, he liked a little more weight at the bottom.
It felt better, you know, going through the zone with the metrics.

Speaker 2 Well, what they found with the torpedo bat is, all they did was for a guy like Anthony Volpe. So the sweet part of the bat is like right here, right? The barrel.

Speaker 2 What they did was a lot of, what they found was Volpe hits a lot of his contact more towards the label, right? More down here towards the label.

Speaker 2 So what they did was they took the barrel and they moved it down a little bit more and made this end part thinner. That's why it starts to look like a torpedo bat.

Speaker 2 So but so what they're saying is, Okay, if he hits it on the barrel and when he misses, he misses more towards the label or he's hitting it towards the label more.

Speaker 2 Why are we not putting the that sweet spot of the bat, the density of the bat? Why aren't we moving it down on the bat? That's all they're doing.

Speaker 2 And then they have to figure out how to weigh it just right too. Because at the end of the day, like for me, I like the 34-inch, 32-ounce bat.

Speaker 2 Like if I was going to move those metrics, I wanted to make sure it still felt good in my hand. So these are totally legal, Pat.

Speaker 2 And at the end of the day, too, you know, the old saying, you know, it's the Indian, not the arrow.

Speaker 2 as like at the end if the Yankees went out and weren't good they'd be like oh these torpedo bats have to go but the fact that they came out and hit so many pumps out the gate, you know, next to you know, everyone's like, what's up with these torpedo bats?

Speaker 2 So you still got to have guys like Aaron Judge and Jazz Chisholm and Anthony Volpe and Austin Wells swinging the bat for them to be good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Aaron Judge not using it, but I assume there comes a time in the playoffs, it gets cold again. Maybe he picks up a torpedo and tries to, you know, put the hat on.

Speaker 1 inside out a little bit of a rally. I have a Marucci bat here as well.

Speaker 1 Will all bat companies be able to do this and will it be specific for the batter for instance i watched pete rose i think on fox with uh i think alex rodriguez was there and uh like frank thomps yeah maybe big or t big yes something i forget who was there but they asked him about like if he was having an off day and he was like well if i was fast on the ball i would just move up in a batter's box if i was getting jammed i'd move back in a batter's box if i was slow i'd move to the back end of it so with you saying like hey this guy whenever he gets jammed, is up here.

Speaker 1 So they just move the density there. They'll be doing that for everybody then, basically.
Is that kind of the next step of this? And how many companies can actually do this? Everybody?

Speaker 2 I think any company could do it.

Speaker 2 Like I said, Marucci and Victus have that bat performance lab in Baton Rouge where they fly guys in in the offseason and they say, hey, listen, you're swinging the bat for whatever reason, however your bat comes through the zone, you're hitting 65% of the balls towards the label.

Speaker 2 Let's make a bat for you that moves that barrel down there to optimize when you hit the ball.

Speaker 2 So for a guy that hits the ball on a standard bat on the barrel a lot, which like Aaron Judge, a lot of guys, most guys do. They're not necessarily going to need the torpedo bat.

Speaker 2 But at the end of the day, if you're moving the barrel down on that bat, what you're doing is you're exposing the end. A lot of guys don't hit the ball off the end.

Speaker 2 So you're giving yourself a sweeter, you know,

Speaker 2 more barrel to hit the ball on. So I just think some guy, it'll be good for some guys.

Speaker 2 And I've also heard there's been eight or so teams that have ordered these torpedo bats going into even last year some guys don't like them some guys are hitting with them like I don't like this and some guys like them so you know at the end of the day it's a preference it's almost like really quick pat it's almost like golf clubs for golf clubs you you go you go to get fitted for golf clubs right they're like oh hey use this driver you're better with a stiffer shaft you're better with this and all of a sudden you're like okay that makes sense for me that's what's starting to happening with bats and the big leagues where they're like okay why are we all swinging the same bats that we've swung for so long?

Speaker 2 Let's try and get an advantage and figure out how we can make a bat that fits your needs better.

Speaker 1 You're the best, ladies and gentlemen. That's the mayor.
Thank you for the hitting clinic, ladies and gentlemen, Sean Casey.

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Speaker 1 Tours are happening all around us, and we're incredibly lucky that we get to talk about it at the talksy tables here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt.

Speaker 1 Sounds like people are going to be be moving forward with these torpedo bats. It's all going to be a preference thing, but I think the torpedo bat era is about to begin in a big way, Ty Schmidt.

Speaker 7 I hope so, because it's a lot more fun, even if you're not just watching one of your teams. Like you're going to watch highlights of any of these games.

Speaker 7 And like last night, you know, it's just like Ellie De La Cruz is a stud.

Speaker 7 But if we can have more guys just on these days of the week where there's nothing really else to talk about other than baseball games and we're getting guys hitting two homers and having four hits and having seven RBIs, like that's good for the game as a whole.

Speaker 7 I hope this whole thing doesn't kind of just slow to a stop and the torpedo bats in like a couple weeks or in a month like once we get later into the season it kind of just becomes like a non-starter and guys aren't doing this because it was kind of like what we talked about with spider attack a couple years ago or all which

Speaker 7 They got they got rid of it, but it was bring it back

Speaker 1 spider attack. Let the spider attack come back and let them do their best against the batters absolute best bat.

Speaker 1 I mean, the fact that these are legal bats and they're just now specifying and the mayor, whenever he was chit-chatting at the end of the hour and then through the end of the hour into the break a little bit, he was talking about how, you know, Morucci, the Paisans down there, the bat makers, they basically have you fly in, they have you hit some, and it's like, hey, here's where you hit the ball more often than not.

Speaker 1 Let's move the density of the bat to there to kind of at least help you get a little bit better wood every once in a while. Helps your mist be better.

Speaker 1 Just like with golf clubs, with the wedges, where they line them, where they put weight at. Hey, you're assuming that you do this.

Speaker 1 Let's put a little weight on the the tip or on the toe that might be able to bring you back.

Speaker 1 It's like, I just assumed they'd been doing this forever, but I guess the only difference between everybody was just the weight and thickness of it. This is the next level.

Speaker 1 This is technology kind of making a sport better. And I think they should let the pitchers have spider attack.

Speaker 1 Let these baseball batters have their best bats and let's go have them go at it and even bring those juice balls back to them. Yeah,

Speaker 7 that's what I kind of figured that pitchers would start bitching about this because from, I would assume from their perspective, like it is kind of unfair.

Speaker 7 Like what you're trying to do when you're pitching, like you're trying to miss barrels.

Speaker 7 So it's like, if these guys are moving the bat around and it's like, hey, I'm trying to jam this guy, but now the barrel is essentially like up near, more near the handle.

Speaker 7 It's like you're trying to do what like you're setting out to do, but somehow it's like this, they've moved the bat around, so this guy is still hitting it right on the sweet spot.

Speaker 7 So that's why I think pitchers would be like, well, you know, now we have a massive disadvantage.

Speaker 7 Like they said we had a huge advantage with the spider tack because all these guys could throw nasty breaking stuff and, like, the spin rates were ridiculous.

Speaker 7 Like, so I think they should kind of bring that back to even it out a little bit because that's going to be their biggest point of contention.

Speaker 7 It's like, I'm jamming this guy, and he's still hitting a three-round homer.

Speaker 1 That's bullshit. You bring back the juice balls, and because you have the juice balls, they're a little bit more slick, so you got to give the pirate or the pitchers their spider tack, okay?

Speaker 1 So now we don't have to do any more of the stupid checks either. Okay, they got their spider tacks, good on good.

Speaker 1 Don't have to look amateur doing the whole, okay, let me see your hands, hat, pull your pants, cheeks.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the whole whole thing yeah where you hiding you hiding it behind your knee where uh show us where's it take shoes off you know what you're doing down there in your ankle that's a weird thing to happen and it started happening because there was too much spider attack give them spider attack give the juice ball let the torpedo bats happen and let's have some baseball darius butler i love it and for it it just makes too much sense so i feel like somehow some way

Speaker 4 will mess it up they'll mess it up makes too much sense for baseball because we will we will more of us will watch casually especially this time of year this is what we need.

Speaker 4 And I'm looking at these Dela Cruz highlights, and I'm pissed off. It's not enough asses in the seats for

Speaker 4 a superstar, a stud like that, doing the shit that he does.

Speaker 1 Chili on Monday night. I mean, we got to get out there and watch this guy play.

Speaker 4 I know opening day is a big thing out for the Reds, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 4 a bunch of teams, but especially for them, like, come on, look at those seats, man.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of games, you know, they're not going to be able to sell out everywhere unless you're in one of those markets that has millions of humans living there, and the team is historic.

Speaker 1 It's like Pittsburgh, the PNC. That place is beautiful.
It is gorgeous. But if that thing's getting 30% capacity, 40% capacity, that's a huge middle-of-the-week potential.

Speaker 1 You were here last night, did you? Skins will fill up. But

Speaker 1 there's 140 other games.

Speaker 1 Did you go outside last night here?

Speaker 1 No. No, because it was 40 and rain.
Since he's right down the road.

Speaker 4 I mean, if I got a chance to watch him play balls, he may

Speaker 1 give him me to the ball.

Speaker 3 Yeah, or you may pick tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Joining us now.

Speaker 1 What's that mean? It's like, well, if it's going to be 40 tonight, you know what?

Speaker 3 There are 161 more of these things. So maybe we'll go tomorrow.
And maybe the sum will be on. It'll be nice.

Speaker 1 Easy comedy, easy go. Let's go to a Cincinnati Reds fan.
He wasn't there.

Speaker 1 I didn't see him there to watch the show. Ladies and gentlemen, college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, rider cup winner A.J.
Hawk.

Speaker 1 A lot of people dressed like Seats at the Reds game. Am I right? No!

Speaker 9 Hey, I give credit to the people that actually went to that game.

Speaker 9 I went back and sat outside at a lacrosse game, my daughter's lacrosse, and it was full-blown winter conditions, like blowing 40 miles an hour, 40 degrees. It was brutal.

Speaker 1 Yeah, which does make it difficult to hit. And we've talked more about baseball, I think, than we've ever done in the past.
I'm genuinely interested. I am, especially with this torpedo bat thing.

Speaker 1 Like, if they're able to make this big of an innovation, to make the game much better while still being within the rules, you know, because everything else, they've had to like kind of critique the rules.

Speaker 1 Stealing signs, always been legal, hitting trash cans too far. Yeah.
Can't do that. Okay.
Then like steroids. Okay.
We're not really testing, but can't do that.

Speaker 1 And then all of a sudden everybody is on it and everybody's awesome and baseball is more popular than it's ever been. And it's like, well, now we're going to test for everything.

Speaker 1 It's like there's always unwritten rules in baseball and then something happens and then they have to kind of fix it. And this one, not even an unwritten rule.

Speaker 1 They're like, nah, this is within the rule book they're doing it all right and to debut's point we automatically assume that baseball will want to make their sport worse you know we automatically assume that they'll be like this all makes too much sense they're going to try to ban this so it seems like it's being welcomed more teams are wanting them and uh if we get those juice balls and a spider tack back with shohe with tani in the in the business juan soto going over to the mets making the amount of money he has obviously a once-in-a-generation guy like paul skeens is like is baseball kind of is baseball interesting interesting?

Speaker 1 Can we, are we going to pay attention? I think so.

Speaker 9 I think so. Yeah, I think, I think this has legs.

Speaker 9 I think it has legs, but I want to know how much power the pitchers have when it comes to baseball, because I would imagine every pitcher, I don't know, I shouldn't say every pitcher, but don't you think the majority of them are thinking, hey, you guys are messing with the girth on these bats.

Speaker 9 You can't do this. These guys are hitting two or three homers every game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and you know, just like how defense is kind of treated in the NFL, which goes great, the one rule change that was being pitched to potentially assist defenders, that thing is not getting passed.

Speaker 1 no no change yeah that thing was not getting passed so we don't know if it's the same way in baseball with pitchers but the new rules did pass and there's nothing that is making defense easier or better but we do know that there has been some changes made replay assist going to be better for all parties we assume yes especially as the people that are doing that are getting younger and more used to what they're looking at and better with the technology and quicker and able to kind of assist which we saw happen last year a lot where a flag would be thrown then a ref would get a message almost immediately and be like oh nope we're picking that up, we're moving along after a replay assist or a further assist or whatever they would say.

Speaker 1 Love that. Touchbacks at a 35, we're going to get more returns.
Okay, people aren't going to want to give that up. Love that.

Speaker 1 Regular season overtime rules being the same as the playoff overtime rules as opposed to being going forever. It does have a 10-minute limit.

Speaker 1 And then the tush-push has been tush-pushed back to May for their next date in gathering. What are your thoughts on it all, AJ?

Speaker 1 What's your big takeaway from what has been voted by the competition committee down in beautiful Florida?

Speaker 9 I think this is a little bit of what we expected. Obviously, the defensive holding in a legal contact.
I did not expect that to get through on this one.

Speaker 9 I thought the moving the kickoff touch back to the 35, I thought it was maybe 50-50 chance, just because I feel like hasn't the NFL promoted as a big success, like the new weird-looking kickoff to where we have, what, 1800 more plays or whatever they call it, and we have a lot less concussions, however, you test that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I think the NFL was very pumped with it. And I think at the end of the season is really when they were flexing.
You know, they're like, this is exactly what we wanted.

Speaker 1 We wanted it to be a dynamic play being added back in. And Turpin obviously goes bananas.
I think he signed a deal, too. Congrats to him.
Obviously, he comes from the XFL.

Speaker 1 And then he has a big moment like that with a new return. I think they're even trying to make it easier for returns.
I think it's like 6-3-2 now, as opposed to seven, whatever it was in the past.

Speaker 1 So I think they're adding another person.

Speaker 1 And I think allegedly, Roger Goodell was pushing for it to go to the 35 because I had an opportunity to talk to Commissioner Goodell about the new kickoff rules.

Speaker 1 I think it was about midway through the season, I think, midway through the year. And he was pumped with it.
He thought the opportunities were great.

Speaker 1 And then I immediately go, got to move that to the 35 there to kind of scare more people. And his immediate thought and his response was, a lot of people have said that in the special teams world.

Speaker 1 So kind of an NFL thing to test it, see how it works. Are we going to keep it? Are we going to critique it a little bit? Or are we going to get rid of this?

Speaker 1 We've seen things get tested and then tossed after one season. Now I think they saw it.

Speaker 1 They saw the upside of it, especially at the end of the year last year when there was more returns and they want to create more. I love it.
It's good for special teams.

Speaker 1 It is great for special teams coaches. It's great for special teams players.

Speaker 1 I'm happy to say, or I'm happy to see that they think they got it right is what I'm thinking, AJ, from watching them kind of adjust this rule.

Speaker 9 Yeah, and it is going to absolutely, you know, force more returns. And we love seeing returns.
It's something that people, I guess, take for granted.

Speaker 9 And it's like an afterthought when you're like a casual football fan. But if you're there and you're on the staff or you're on the team, you know absolutely how big of a deal these things are.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if you take one to the crib, you're probably going to win the game. Yeah.
Like that, that is just how it goes. If you get one out to the 50, the offense is jogging on the field.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's a whole force a fumble.

Speaker 9 Imagine forcing a fumble if you're covering the first kickoff of a game and you force a fumble or something and get that thing.

Speaker 1 Oh, huge. Game over.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, you used to be able to set the tone with the, you know,

Speaker 9 locking arms and big glitch.

Speaker 1 Fuck it.

Speaker 1 That was, that was, you know,

Speaker 1 I'm a wedge buster.

Speaker 4 I'm a cause. What is your job?

Speaker 1 I bust wedges. What are wedges? Well, it's three professional athletes linking their arms together with a returner behind them, and they are running full speed at me.
I am running full speed at them.

Speaker 4 You got to put a descript on those three athletes, too. You're right.

Speaker 1 Linebackers, defensive linemen, potentially an offensive lineman. Whoa.
Could be anywhere from from 240 pounds to 340 pounds. And they can run.
They can move. They will be moving in your direction.

Speaker 1 And they are trying to bust you. So you're trying to bust them.
They're trying to bust you. It's a game of Red Rover, but really you're outnumbered every time.

Speaker 1 And you're just going to do one of these. And if you can take up two,

Speaker 1 even better. So you just do what you got.
That's what the kickoff used to be. And you could set a tone.

Speaker 1 Colts had a guy.

Speaker 1 I think he was a defensive lineman. He was before I got there.
Cracked four helmets or something like that.

Speaker 1 Cracked four helmets.

Speaker 9 Valuable play. That is a valuable player to that squad because the coach can show film of that dude every week, too.
You see, you talk about laying on the line. Check this guy out.

Speaker 9 He's half-brain dead already.

Speaker 1 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 9 But guys take pride in their job, is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think he cracked three or four helmets or whatever. And they'll show it on NFL films as one of the highlights.
Like he was just, I think he was a five.

Speaker 1 So he's right down in the middle of the field to the ball. And it was,

Speaker 1 it was go time. And he exploded through people's heads.
And

Speaker 1 I've seen the clips. I wish that guy was on my team.
It was, Aisha, you should have seen what it was like when I forget his name. I wish I knew his name.

Speaker 4 Was his last name Reed?

Speaker 1 Yeah, maybe. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Lineman 95, maybe.

Speaker 1 Big helmet.

Speaker 1 Yes, big helmet. Big helmet.
Taller.

Speaker 1 So fast. Just so fast.

Speaker 1 Can't do that anymore now because everybody's lined up next to each other, which is why when the touchbacks happened, these looked worse than the touchbacks of the old because people were just standing at the 30, touchback.

Speaker 1 All right, jog off the field.

Speaker 1 And now, like, I guess there was chatter about moving the kickoff back five yards, the kicker, back five yards.

Speaker 1 Instead of moving, you know, the touchback to the 35, you can move it back, kickoff back to the 30, which is what it used to be back in the day.

Speaker 1 I still think there'll be kickers that could get it out if they wanted to,

Speaker 1 but that would certainly force some of the weaker-legged kickers to probably put up more balls that'll be returned.

Speaker 1 How do you feel, though, legitimately, about the defensive thing not passing? Do you think that's just forever now?

Speaker 4 Amen?

Speaker 4 Not surprised at all. And as the numbers continue to go up, as quarterbacks continue to make money, betting, you know, people want fantasy, like all of the things that are offensive in the league.

Speaker 4 So you're not going to make it tougher for the offense. I think that's why even

Speaker 4 the touch push, partly why that's kind of been tabled. But I had zero expectations for the defensive stuff to be passed, just like AJ.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's not happening. The other one that's interesting is the seeding, because the NFL isn't the only sport talking about, you know, the changing of the seating.

Speaker 3 I know the NBA, they're already talking about just doing one through 16, you know, eight teams on the east, eight teams on the west, and then completely reseeding them and doing just a one through 16,

Speaker 3 you know, NBA playoff. So this one feels like it could actually happen where instead of, you know, making those teams that do go 14 and three go on the road, that maybe they still get a home game.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you, I don't know. I don't know.
Playoffs are so successful.

Speaker 1 You got to remember end of day, like, what are we, we're getting like 60 million views,

Speaker 1 50 million viewers for these playoff games. With the way the NFL operates, that would be a drastic change with that move.

Speaker 9 Would it bring more viewers? Would it bring more fans? That's the question.

Speaker 1 Maybe it does. Maybe it does because the games get better and like the people get rewarded.
In my head, I'm not saying I'm against this at all, at all. I'm not saying I'm against it.

Speaker 1 What I'm saying is the NFL very rarely will just make a drastic change to something, especially if it's having massive success, which the playoff numbers for football are absurd.

Speaker 1 I mean, the NFL numbers are bananas.

Speaker 5 I heard Shraig say yesterday on his last episode of Good Morning Football how much the owners love if you just win your division. Yeah.

Speaker 5 You get a home playoff game,

Speaker 5 you get all those ticket money, you get all those concessions, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 5 And then you yesterday said it basically the same thing, but not from the owner's perspective, but more of a player's perspective.

Speaker 5 Winning the division means something, and that's awesome.

Speaker 5 Whether you have the fifth best record in that conference or not, win the division. As someone like

Speaker 5 where we come from like a division that means something, like when you have rivalries within the division, I love, like, that winning division means getting a home fifth.

Speaker 1 Yeah, hanging a banner. Yeah.
Yeah, you know, it means something. Yeah, it means something, right?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I guess not every stadium has division championship banners, but you know, I mean, you still get in, you still get the hat, you still get in the playoffs.

Speaker 3 And like, we, of course, winning a division championship means something, but like, how do we talk about it on here?

Speaker 3 Like, only one team is happy, so sure, it definitely means something to the players and in the ownership and everything like that, absolutely. And they're still going to the playoffs.
It just

Speaker 3 feels as though having, you know, being in a division where there's only been one great team with the Bills, maybe that's why I feel this way.

Speaker 3 But, like, when you are in these very difficult divisions, the NFC North, the AFC North, like, it does feel like, hey, why, you know, if we win 12 games and, you know, the Ravens or the Steelers win 13, or the Patriots win 10 games, and the Ravens and the Steelers

Speaker 3 win 12 or 13 games. Like, even looking at that, it's like if I was a Ravens or Steelers fan, it's like, shit, I would want that home playoff.

Speaker 1 The Lions pitching this is strictly because week 18 game against the Vikings, they both have 13 or 14 wins, whatever it was.

Speaker 1 It's not 13 wins, and they were going to have to go from Seed 1, which is permanent home field advantage throughout the playoffs, to Seed 5, which is not even a home playoff game.

Speaker 1 Lions win that game, and they still are the ones making the pitch because I think they're saying, that was bullshit for the Vikings.

Speaker 1 You know, like, uh, because if they would have lost that game, they would have been like, so we're the best team, in the second best team in the entire league, and now we're a five-seed.

Speaker 1 We got to go on the road through the entirety of it all. That's it.
That's it's a fascinating just had their best regular season in franchise history, and they might have been a wild card team.

Speaker 9 I don't see it changing, me neither.

Speaker 4 They had to play, it was great for the NFL. Like, they had to play their guys.
Like, that was basically an extra playoff game we got from two of the best teams in the NFL with, like you said,

Speaker 4 four spots of the playoffs on the line going from a one to a five. So I don't see it changing.
It's just,

Speaker 4 it's too big a part of the NFL and what the culture is in the NFL.

Speaker 1 Yeah, not saying it's not a good idea. Yeah.
Like not saying it's not a good idea and thinking that it would work out, but it's like the way the NFL operates is they'll be like, what?

Speaker 1 So you're telling me,

Speaker 1 pull up the numbers. How many did we get at wild card weekend? How many viewers did we have? Okay.
How many upsets has there been in wild card weekend? How many teams have gone on a run?

Speaker 1 It's just, it feels like the people that are voting in the room would want to make that big of a rattle to their baby.

Speaker 1 I mean, they're selling playoff games now directly to streaming platforms and the numbers and the amount of money they're getting is just gigantic.

Speaker 1 So not saying they shouldn't change it, but I don't think that one's ever going to get changed.

Speaker 7 No, and like with the NBA, it makes a little bit more sense because like sometimes you see like, well, like the Western Conference has 11 teams that should be in the playoffs, and like, the East is really bad.

Speaker 7 So, like, that makes sense. But typically, in the NFL, it's

Speaker 7 pretty evened out with how good the teams are in the AFC and the NFC. There might be one division, like, you know, we talked about the NFC South the last couple years.

Speaker 7 It's like, you know, whoever gets in here is kind of screwing over one of these teams. AFC South.

Speaker 1 Whoa, whoa, whoa, AFC South is back.

Speaker 7 Yeah, the AFC South too, but the Texans have been pretty solid.

Speaker 7 But very rarely is it like, oh, the NFC has eight teams that have 10 wins, and the AFC only has three teams that have 10 wins and a couple of those should get in.

Speaker 7 Like, it is typically pretty evenly balanced between the two divisions.

Speaker 1 Coming out of the league meetings also, we have new flex rules for Thursday night football.

Speaker 1 Tom Pellisero of the area reported that the NFL owners passed a resolution allowing the league to flex Sunday games to Thursday night with 21 days notice.

Speaker 1 Need three weeks if you're going to cut off three days of my weekend.

Speaker 1 No team can do more than two short week games on Thursday night, and there can be no more than two of these games flexed from Sunday to Thursday.

Speaker 1 I assume there's a certain restrictor to like past week seven or past week eight, like they have with Sunday night football.

Speaker 1 They obviously did this last year one time, I believe, and now they're going to be able to really do it another time.

Speaker 1 And now they're shortening the amount of time from 28 days to 21 days for the notice to go on a short week.

Speaker 1 I like anytime these primetime games have the flexibility to move a shite game that we all see coming to a good game or a great game if it is available.

Speaker 1 There's always going to be Cinderella teams that we don't know are going to be good.

Speaker 1 So whenever the schedule makers piece together these primetime games and which week who is playing what they have no idea that the Washington Rainers might be the one of the teams that everybody on earth will want to watch.

Speaker 1 A couple years ago, the Cincinnati Bengals go from a four-win team to a team that ends up going to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 So they're not scheduled to be in a lot of primetime games before the season starts, but all of a sudden, wait a minute, this team should be on primetime TV.

Speaker 1 I wish networks would pull the trigger more on flexing games.

Speaker 1 A lot of networks are scared to do it because they don't want to piss off any of the franchises, which are obviously all individual entities. They don't want to ruin any relationships.

Speaker 1 They don't want to piss off any fan bases either, because if you say no, to like a New York team is scheduled for three straight primetime games, they suck. They're not good.

Speaker 1 We're forced to watch them. But a lot of networks are scared to tell their fan base, which is gigantic, even though their team stinks, that they're not worthy of being on primetime.

Speaker 1 We're going elsewhere. So I think if it becomes much more common, networks will be much more comfortable making the decision to do it.

Speaker 1 So I like that they're trying to make it easier for primetime games to get better for all of us, AJ.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I like that they're doing. I think they're going to continue to find creative ways to get all the best games, like as we, as the season goes in primetime.
But think about how valuable these are.

Speaker 9 When the whole

Speaker 9 schedule release comes out, that's a big deal. Now, the NFL does a great job of making that a huge deal.
But you sit there and you highlight how many primetime games each team has.

Speaker 9 So yeah, of course, you don't want those taken away from you, but you should also say, hey, if you're one of these terrible teams and you don't have any primetime games, you might get flexed into two primetime games if you take care of business early in the year.

Speaker 1 Especially with what the ratings are later in the year. Ratings are bigger at the end of the year, so you can earn your way into it.
So you're right.

Speaker 1 I think it does give the teams that are projected to be shite

Speaker 1 an opportunity, you know, to earn their way into primetime. And that's how primetime should be treated, by the way.
When you're in these primetime games, they're doing pieces and segments.

Speaker 1 they're showcasing your team your city your building your players like primetime games matter not just because people see the field uh the play on the field or get a chance to experience a fan base and everything like that but because they're telling the story of your team every single week in different ways so whenever the dallas cowboys are on you know four straight five straight weeks i mean how many different dak prescott interviews are we getting in there how many different you know conversations about the jones family and the stadium like they they highlight your franchise.

Speaker 1 So not having a primetime game sucks for your business. Oh, yeah.
Sucks for your team. Sucks for your players.
Sucks for your business. Sucks for your city.

Speaker 1 It sucks for your fans that aren't in your city because they can't see shit, you know, unless they get NFL

Speaker 1 plus.

Speaker 1 Which is a weapon, obviously, for people that are out of their market. But it's like, I hope they make flexing more common.
Yeah. I hope it becomes more common.

Speaker 4 And when the good games, the good teams aren't flexed, it sucks for the casual fans who are just going to turn on the primetime game. So I'm right there with you.

Speaker 4 And speaking of like Dak, like when Dak got hurt last year, we still had however many Cowboys games. Danny Dimes hurt New York, still had the Giants on every few weeks.

Speaker 4 So like a team like the Colts this year, when Anthony Richardson on his MVP run midway through the year, we get back to a couple Thursday night games.

Speaker 4 And for the fans, it's always great that we get these games on primetime. But even for the players, it sucks.
getting to that Thursday night game.

Speaker 4 But once you get through it and you have that kind of mini bye week, you have that weekend weekend off, um, that's also awesome.

Speaker 4 Then, the storytelling aspect of it, when you can tell a relevant story that's unfolding in real time, like Jayden Daniels and the Commanders last year, for example, CJ Stroud the previous year, maybe Drake May next year.

Speaker 4 Um, you know, that's that's better for the fans, better for the fan bases. And, like you said, for the organization, Drake, maybe, yeah, most likely.

Speaker 3 Uh, but is it still the situation where some of the networks can say no?

Speaker 3 Because do you remember when the Ravens and Commanders were the one o'clock game on CBS, and then the Sunday night game was absolute shits. And everyone was like, oh, well, this is an easy fix.

Speaker 3 Let's just move the commanders and the Ravens to Sunday night football. But CBS was able to say, no, like, do they still have...

Speaker 1 Yeah, we changed that rule?

Speaker 3 Yeah, like, is that rule still in place? Because that's the biggest problem.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because who's Amazon going to be able to get it from? Bingo.

Speaker 3 It's like, oh, okay, so instead of this game, we're getting another shit game that is slated for four o'clock.

Speaker 1 Because CBS and Fox have the one and four, right? Yeah. Yeah.
The daytime shit. Yes.

Speaker 1 They're the ones that have all the games like all all the games are afc one side nfc the other obviously and they kind of run that fox nfc cbs afc if you're not in prime time you're gonna be on one of those probably regionally depending upon where you're at so if they were to get a good game actually you know in one of those spots to be able to do it and then amazon who has no affiliation with them with either is like hey excuse me yeah yeah we're taking that there's no way they're gonna solve it isn't a chance isn't it where each i thought i could be wrong i thought it was where fox and CBS have the right to protect one game each week.

Speaker 5 So if they do have, let's just say like Ravens, Bengals, they're going to protect that one.

Speaker 5 But if they're, let's say, the Patriots are 8-0 and they're playing the Packers who are 7-0 or in this situation,

Speaker 5 let's pretend it's the second best game of the week. Amazon can take that one.
They can only, CBS and Fox, I think, can only protect one game.

Speaker 1 That's the problem.

Speaker 3 Is that like a lot of times, there's only three good, like a lot of times, especially once we get to like week eight, week 10, there aren't that many good games like two games two good games on a sunday is very good for us they're for like a five six week period and guess what one of them's on cbs and one of them's on fox so or nbc on sunday night or yeah bingo so it's like even if in that situation like it really should be more so like hey the four the three prime time games they get their pick because those are the games that no matter what we are going to watch we have to watch them we're watching and then on Sunday sometimes there is that game that comes out of nowhere that wasn't supposed to be good, and it turns out to be incredible.

Speaker 3 And that's on Sunday. And that's a real treat.
It really is. But those Monday, Thursday, and Sunday night games, they have to be the best games of the week.

Speaker 1 And on that note,

Speaker 1 I'm done with the way you guys are stacking these games. Oh, my God.
One and four o'clock. Okay.
We all have the opportunity for the quad box who's on YouTube TV. Okay.

Speaker 1 For those that aren't on to the streaming area yet at YouTube TV, and I assume Hulu's going to have this soon.

Speaker 1 Just

Speaker 1 we all, we all doing it. Okay.
With the red zone channel, we're doing it. There is no reason for there to be eight in one and then like three in the other or whatever it is.

Speaker 1 Let's make sure we're making this conducive. Even it out.
Let's make sure this is a good spot. And is Scott Hanson up?

Speaker 1 Yes. Is that what I saw?

Speaker 9 Who's doing it?

Speaker 1 I don't know. That's A.
You can't just plug anybody in there, I don't think. Oh, after this year?

Speaker 1 I think he's up.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I believe he's like in contract negotiations right now. They'll get that stuff.

Speaker 1 It feels like they...

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 7 Tony Reality threw his hat in the ring, said, hey, that'd be a dream job.

Speaker 1 And Tony,

Speaker 3 that's from Around the Horn.

Speaker 1 Excuse you, dude.

Speaker 4 I just wanted to make sure.

Speaker 1 He is a free agent, yeah. But no, I need to know.
You did a good job.

Speaker 4 We're not putting Tony in here.

Speaker 1 Tony would be, I think his brain would be one that could do it.

Speaker 1 My thing with... that red zone operation there, and everybody just talks about Scott not peeing for seven hours.

Speaker 1 Scott's got to keep up with 10 storylines in seven hours. And

Speaker 1 he's got somebody literally chatting with him while he's doing this about where he's going.

Speaker 1 Like the talent that that guy showcases, memory has to remember first quarter, whenever he's in the fourth quarter of all the games.

Speaker 1 And then also directing of traffic and not sounding like an asshole. Now, there's some times where he'll start a narrative that I don't think is the right narrative.
Sure. Okay.

Speaker 1 And then he'll have to revisit it a little bit later.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it can't.

Speaker 1 But he's flying a thousand miles an hour around that's a tough gig i i think he makes it sound throw someone else in there can you imagine patty if you threw someone just throw some random in there and say here you go give it a shot for 10 minutes imagine like you're you'd be swimming i think it's also like a sensory overload too you know because the amount of uh yeah i uh imagine starting that though knowing you're going like seven straight hours just to starting that every sunday

Speaker 4 he definitely makes it look much easier than it is i think that's the thing producing it like he's basically live producing you can hear him going at producing hey can can you get that?

Speaker 4 Yeah, get the Browns. Browns, can we get that play back up? So, yeah,

Speaker 4 I need Scott to know, okay?

Speaker 1 Me too. I agree.
Me too. I think the NFL has to know that, but maybe not.

Speaker 7 Well, because Cisleano used to do it. So they might, I mean, if he's playing hardball, they might say, listen, we'll bring Cisleano in.
No, he's with the Browns now. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 7 I'm sure he'd be okay with leaving the Browns radio job to do red zone again. Maybe Adam Schein throws it in.

Speaker 3 Adam Schein could do it.

Speaker 1 It's going to take a special talent.

Speaker 1 It's going to take a special talent to get in in there.

Speaker 1 As somebody that speaks into a microphone and I believe I probably have a pretty okay memory and everything like that, that one, I've tried to put myself in his position at home.

Speaker 1 Like, all right, how could this work out? This could be, is this a,

Speaker 1 because like college ball needs one, you know, so like, do we pitch that? The NHL could have one. You know, like there's a lot of those that they could have, but it's not just as easy as the concept.

Speaker 1 The person that is doing it matters in that entire thing. And it's just like, you have to be in for a long time.
And the way he does it, Dre, I don't think that's an easy person.

Speaker 4 He also has to have a son of doing it. Yeah, Reese was doing it.

Speaker 5 He also has to have a general knowledge of 90% of the players in the league in case something happens.

Speaker 1 All the background. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's not an easy gift.

Speaker 4 Backup quarterback. Yeah.

Speaker 7 All of it.

Speaker 7 Like you said, too, there's a difference between like doing TV and like having a producer in your ear like a little bit when you're about, like I assume that there is a producer in his ear damn near every second of that entire eight-hour block.

Speaker 7 Yeah. Hey, this is next.
This is is next, this is next. Like just constantly basically, it's like having like 15 voices in your head.

Speaker 1 Anthony Calhoun wished, I have voices in my head. They hunt

Speaker 1 a song. Yeah.
Anthony Calhoun wished TV here in Indianapolis. I believe he was Syracuse classmates with Scott Hanson.

Speaker 1 So he does a charity golf outing to raise money for the local teachers here, I believe. And one of them is to spend a day at Red Zone.
So I got a chance via his documentation of it.

Speaker 1 And it's like watching Scott go from

Speaker 1 it.

Speaker 1 I assume it's NFC notes on one thing, AFC notes on another thing, then bouncing to the second page of the AFC note with like four TVs in front of him without even skipping a beat and then even looking at the camera afterwards with like a point and then goes, now let's get to Las Vegas.

Speaker 1 And it's like he's directing traffic. He's like a meteorologist.
Hey, we need Scott back in there.

Speaker 1 We need Scott.

Speaker 3 It is no longer seven hours of commercial-free football, though.

Speaker 1 And nobody cared. People were pissed there for about a week, and then everybody turned it right back on.
And they're like, wait a second, weren't we running L raps on this thing this entire time?

Speaker 1 Whenever he was saying seven hours of commercial-free football, and then I saw Christian McCaffrey on an L rap, I'm like.

Speaker 1 Now, fuck.

Speaker 1 I think you are profiting from this, but now that they're stopping it, picture and picture, doing their thing, we assume it was only a matter of time. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was only a matter of time before that happened. And everybody was pissed

Speaker 1 on the internet. Yeah.
Until the following.

Speaker 9 Too valuable. Way too valuable.
It has to.

Speaker 1 It has to do a lot. And that is mad.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it does. On the internet.
Yeah. We're mad, and then we're not actually in real life.
And then, you know, as soon as it's 12.58,

Speaker 1 what four games am I putting on? Am I.

Speaker 1 There's one of these ones that just kind of tracks them all.

Speaker 1 Put the audio on.

Speaker 7 You tell me I got to to watch Jags Browns locally. That's the only thing I got.

Speaker 1 I think I'm going to go to Red Zone. Okay, yeah, well, $12.59.
Yeah. One more week.
And then when Scott goes, welcome to seven hours of Red Zone football. This motherfucker.
All right,

Speaker 1 I'm not. Tomorrow, I'll stop.
Yeah, that is, they know it. I couldn't even fathom what the numbers are

Speaker 1 for Red Zone. Massive.
That has to be a cash cow. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 Absolutely cash cow. I bet those ads.

Speaker 1 With fantasy football ad for him.

Speaker 9 That's all people care about. It's like who's scoring?

Speaker 1 Like, who are are my fantasy guys what are they doing gambling parlays yeah yeah like touchdowns is someone who only bets on touchdown scoring parlays red zone is basically the only thing i would have to watch if i was just worrying about gambling so schedule makers what we're trying to say is make red zone easier because we're all watching it so if you have the one and four o'clock times easily separated i think they should be able to flop those too

Speaker 1 now granted that would be cross networks i guess but what like if there's three one o'clock games like should should be able to bounce, you know, yeah, you're right, you know, because there's like some four o'clock slates that are cropped, and then there's like a loaded one,

Speaker 1 11 ones, yeah, and it's like we need them all. It's like, I wish they would be a little bit more active in making it easier to kind of do it all.

Speaker 1 Players would have to be the ones that would have to adjust to this, obviously, but Sunday to Thursday is really the only biggest one. If you're Sunday at one to prime time, not a big deal.

Speaker 1 If you're Sunday to Monday, not that big of a deal. If you're Monday to Thursday, then, you know, that would be impossible, seemingly, but that would be a little bit different.

Speaker 1 But I think we're going to get to a point where it's going to be a shell game.

Speaker 1 Because remember, didn't they say at one point there was a rumor about like the afternoon games are going to be up for sale? Yeah. Do you remember that when it was going to be like a like a bid?

Speaker 7 They were going to do like a draft almost.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I think that's only a matter of time.
Really? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, I think they're going to try to profit off of more games.

Speaker 1 If we're thinking about the NFL. Obviously.

Speaker 1 What is the NFL game?

Speaker 9 They're going to UAE, right? I mean, yeah.

Speaker 1 Why are they doing that?

Speaker 3 Sean McDermott wants to play over there.

Speaker 9 As Conman would say, it has to be about the shekels.

Speaker 1 That is what Conman would say.

Speaker 3 That isn't what I would say, but I'm picking up.

Speaker 1 Trake said that is what you said. Yeah.
Yeah, well, in that question.

Speaker 3 A couple of times. No, just once.

Speaker 1 Thank you today. Maybe spend some of your shekels.

Speaker 3 All the time.

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Speaker 1 the moon.

Speaker 1 I don't like what my algorithm has been doing with the moon. What happened?

Speaker 1 What happened?

Speaker 3 Turns out we don't need to worry about tickets on the moon because we never went there.

Speaker 1 All right. That's what happened.
Okay. That's just what I'm.

Speaker 3 They might be selling tickets underneath the Great Pyramids, though.

Speaker 1 It's totally okay.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 I saw something about that car. Yeah, there's been a lot of that.
Too much. I have to tell my algo, I go into search bar and I go, no more moon stuff.
Search. Okay.

Speaker 1 Just hoping that the AI understands a lot of videos. Saw a lot of interviews, old school interviews.

Speaker 7 Those are all doctored. Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I'm sure Buzz Aldrin would

Speaker 1 go to the moon and then just willingly a bunch of years later just say, well, we never went. We never went.
I didn't see that. Is that what you're doing?

Speaker 3 You've been sucking this guy's dick about going to the moon for 50 years.

Speaker 7 And you think one day he's just, I'm sick and tired of it.

Speaker 3 We never went. I hate to burst your bros.

Speaker 1 Is that what you're seeing? I didn't see that. I haven't seen that.
That's all I see.

Speaker 4 The most obvious doctored footage ever.

Speaker 7 Listen, I could go in and.

Speaker 1 What's the doctored footage? That's what Connor just said. They're saying, I mean, his interviews are doctored.

Speaker 3 You can take this guy, this guy's 90 years old. You can take his words from 60 different years and put it together, and he'll say anything.
He'll say anything. Shit, I can make him say that

Speaker 1 he's been to the moon 450 times in the last three years.

Speaker 4 You know what? I might do that.

Speaker 7 Actually, wait for that. That video will be out in the next week.

Speaker 1 That's right.

Speaker 1 I haven't seen any of those interviews. I've seen

Speaker 1 those.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah. AI voiceovers.

Speaker 1 What's your algorithm trying to do to you, John?

Speaker 7 I don't know. Well, and it's all these assholes tagging me, and it acted like we didn't kill the moon.

Speaker 1 Guess what?

Speaker 7 We did.

Speaker 3 And no amount of

Speaker 3 gerrymandered and

Speaker 3 no amount of research that you do is going to convince me otherwise.

Speaker 7 Okay.

Speaker 1 You're picking and choosing. Sounds like your algorithm is joining their side, too.

Speaker 1 You're going to tack that up. I know, huh? From all angles.

Speaker 3 You can't do it anymore. Some of these AIs are watching the moonlighting videos and saying, okay,

Speaker 1 well, this isn't real.

Speaker 1 You guys believe that immunity? Is that possible?

Speaker 1 You did an AI certification

Speaker 1 certificate class.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he certification is the word. Yep, you get it.

Speaker 9 You got certified in AI?

Speaker 1 You took a 10-minute class that turned into a four-hour class. I think he went to expert level.
It's got my master's.

Speaker 4 45 minutes. I didn't get it.
I got 45 minutes worth. It was great work.
I got to go back. And it was, you know, just learning some of the basics, some of the terminology.

Speaker 1 What do we need to know about AI that maybe we fear or that we don't know about? Yeah.

Speaker 4 We're fine. We'll always need humans.

Speaker 1 We'll always need humans. What's the great benefit? That's exactly what they want you to think.

Speaker 4 The great benefit, I mean, the benefit is you can just, you know, multiply whatever work you're doing.

Speaker 4 So, whatever, if you, okay, if you're or if you can just obviously type shit in, how we build photos on Grock AI photos, if you want to put a flyer out, if you want to put classes out, if you teaching, learning, obviously, all those cheating.

Speaker 4 Yeah, cheating for sure.

Speaker 4 So, kids now, I mean that's the thing they just type in anything and just why do we why will we always need humans because we direct that thing uh we direct it and then they we have the in for now

Speaker 4 for now because it's

Speaker 1 he has a certificate not you okay i watch this guy do a class

Speaker 9 though hey debuff though how do we keep it from directing itself and directing us and changing you know ruining us

Speaker 1 I don't have the answer. Well, you want to take the class.
He did the class. You're certified, man.
This is the class. How official is that?

Speaker 1 He took the class, okay? And this one

Speaker 1 said, can't you really think that was number one? And then he went through 45 minutes, went through it all. I believe what you told me, though, is they'll never understand conversation.
AI wouldn't.

Speaker 4 So it would say, no, so it's just certain context that we have with conversation. So even in our age group, a certain conversation that we can have amongst 10-year-olds.
Mad dummy.

Speaker 4 And it would just go completely over their head. And it's fucking old people that are 90 years old that can say certain things that we wouldn't pick.

Speaker 4 Or if we're speaking a language, if you're speaking Spanish, but Spanish speakers can speak and say things that we wouldn't necessarily get.

Speaker 4 So yeah, they can figure certain shit out, but it's so much context that, you know, the energy are machines and they're learning.

Speaker 9 It's just the beginning, though, D-Bud.

Speaker 1 It's just the beginning. It's another class.
It is just the beginning. This is 201.
Can a computer talk like a human? That's good evidence.

Speaker 4 That was the part we're talking about. Yeah, but see, that's the problem.

Speaker 3 You just mentioned like school and humans and stuff.

Speaker 3 Like AI will become so good at it that people won't actually learn anything so then people will start to get much dumber and then the AIs get smaller talking about idiotocracy brother look I'm just saying look out the um

Speaker 1 AI put that class together for him so that was

Speaker 4 those were humans all right the humans over at IBM do you know that oh at IBM sure it wasn't Watson you mean Watson

Speaker 7 might have been Watson and that's why they're always going to need humans too who's going to do all the manual labor who's going to wear the shackles and chains that

Speaker 1 eventually guess what we are we are that's that's the you know so yeah they will always need well before that happens why don't you go get a ticket to a game

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Speaker 1 Then it got on Reddit. And then Ticket Stooge, who is now leveraged Stooge.

Speaker 1 He said, hey, we can't just have this thing getting spammed out here. We're going to have to change it.
So we've changed it. PMS2025.

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Speaker 9 always always yeah can't get 30 off tickets that are less than 30 bucks that would make sense see geek's not paying you no but shout out to see geek see geek is taking care of us yeah i love seeking that's how it's gonna help though isn't it gonna help the fact that uh i don't know if you guys saw like kid rock wearing like his evil kinievil jumpsuit he was in there and they're trying to pass a bill to you know for resale right for resale tickets where they the secondary buyers buyers come and screw everybody else over.

Speaker 9 So that's a good thing.

Speaker 1 And they were. Yeah, he was in the Oval Office and

Speaker 1 Kid Rock. Yeah, Kid Rock.
Yeah, he was. He was dressed like Evil Knievel and Evil Knievel's son.

Speaker 9 Robbie Kinievil, do not forget. Robbie Kinie.

Speaker 1 Come on, man. Absolutely.
Second generation can evil. Robbie killed it too.

Speaker 9 Robbie was not like Evil 2. Like, he was...
He was awesome. Robbie killed it.

Speaker 1 Here's Kid Rock. Here we go.

Speaker 1 Nope. No.
No, that is. That is SKR, brother.
That is.

Speaker 1 He ordered a business strike and got it.

Speaker 1 That's kid wrong.

Speaker 1 But they did sign a bill trying to eliminate ticket fraud and scammers. So, like, even obviously with Big Night Out, I did not know the extent of it.

Speaker 1 We had no idea what was going to happen with those ticket sales, but it was pretty evident that there was some sort of AI or robots, you know, buying tickets before anybody else could get them.

Speaker 1 They were just either, or there was multiple people with multiple different logins trying to get those and then immediately going up on the secondary market at an up price.

Speaker 1 I think Taylor Swift had a situation take place where it ended up in the Supreme Court, I think, with the entire fraud and the entire thing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So this has been a business that people have been taking advantage of, not only venues and

Speaker 1 like the fans, but also the artists and everything else going on. So that would be a big deal.
I don't know how they regulate it though.

Speaker 1 Like we were just talking about AI and Darius, who is our certified AI expert, said these motherfuckers will never be able to talk to us because they won't be able to catch our drift.

Speaker 1 You know, they won't be able to understand what we're saying and that whole thing. But I think they'll always be able to buy a ticket.
You know, like

Speaker 1 I think AI will always be able to be a boom, here's my credit card. And you're not wanting it and you're out.
So how do they monitor that? How do they regulate that?

Speaker 1 Hopefully they get that under control. Because as somebody who loves going to live events, whenever you see, like, there's, we're selling tickets for 20 bucks to get in.

Speaker 1 Some of those tickets were hundreds of dollars.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, 500, 600 bucks immediately on the secondary market. And it's like, that's so fucked up for our people.

Speaker 1 Like the people that I I wanted to get, the reason why it's priced that way is because the people that I wanted in, you know, like I want that crowd in that building. Yes.
Like that's who I want.

Speaker 1 But instead it goes, I mean, once again, this is my first show, our first show, very small sample size, but even we experienced it and felt it. I couldn't even imagine what these big time artists

Speaker 1 feel about it, you know, and hopefully they do get that said. A lot in the music industry is kind of having to get figured out or kind of getting sorted right now.

Speaker 1 The ticketing thing is very, very real. Comedians as well, obviously.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and the ownership of everything, too. Like, that was the biggest thing for, it feels like a couple of years when it came to Taylor Swift and her owning her own music.

Speaker 3 And then people started selling their entire catalogs. You remember that? Where

Speaker 1 Justin Timberlake and Timberlake sold all of his music.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Springsteen, yeah. It's very interesting.

Speaker 1 And then they can re-record them. Yes.
And then Taylor's version. Bingo is their own.
He's bigger than.

Speaker 1 Like, my wife only listens to Taylor's version because she's like, I'm supporting Taylor. And it's like, hell yeah, good for you.
Good for Taylor. She's getting.
Double. She's double Taylor.

Speaker 1 Which, once again, Taylor Swift is a super genius.

Speaker 1 And a lot of these artists are great

Speaker 1 business folks. So if that was to happen, I think he'd probably win over some folks.
Let's go back to the league meetings happening down in Florida.

Speaker 1 You know, the Pittsburgh Steelers, talking about business, proposed an ability to chit-chat with the free agents during the tampering period. You know, we had free agency frenzy on ESPN.

Speaker 1 ESPN NFL had their free agency frenzy on ESPN too at the same exact time, biggest day of the offseason. They had their show.

Speaker 1 We weren't allowed to have anybody from their program on our program we're live at the same time they are but it's a big deal but that's just the opening of the tampering period that's not even the actual free agency period starts which is on wednesday at four o'clock so like espn viewed the tampering period opening at noon so big that they wanted multiple shows covering it immediately at noon but the rules of the nfl were that the teams weren't even allowed to talk to the players the free agent players that they had negotiated deal before the tampering period even began.

Speaker 1 They talked to their agents, obviously. They were able to get a deal done and everything, but they weren't able to like meet them because it was some reason prohibited.

Speaker 1 So the Steelers were like, shouldn't we be able to at least chit-chat with these guys we're gonna give a hundred and some million dollars to a day before we meet them? And that got passed.

Speaker 1 I think probably everybody was feeling that way. Up to five free agents are allowed to chat with starting at the tampering period.

Speaker 1 They're also saying it's a way to set up either meetings or medical or whatever the case is. I think it's a good idea.

Speaker 1 I think a lot of things that are getting passed right now make common sense, and this is certainly one of them.

Speaker 5 Yeah, they're allowed to do one video or phone call with up to five free agents, uh, like you said, during that tampering period that started, I believe, at noon on Monday, uh, before the beginning of the league new year.

Speaker 5 But yeah, it makes sense.

Speaker 5 Like, sure, you could talk to the agent, the agent could say, yeah, everything is good here, but you would much rather talk to the person who's going to be on the team who's going to be playing for you.

Speaker 5 This one, there was a lot of rules that got passed that just were like, made sense and were like, why wasn't this already a thing? And this was probably one of them.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I like this. Yeah.
I like this. I can't believe this had been happening.

Speaker 3 Without it?

Speaker 1 Yeah. I think this is one of those ones where I was surprised when I found out that people weren't talking to the new team.
Yeah, we signed this guy to $230 million. Did you talk to him? No, no, no.

Speaker 1 Talk to the Agency. He's a good guy.
AC's a good guy. Well, you fucking better hope so.
I mean, and then it doesn't happen. Obviously, I'm talking about Cleveland, but it is a,

Speaker 1 this makes a lot of sense. I like this.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you think it'll change Free Agency at all? Because like a situation like the Patriots with Milton Williams, where, you know, hey, the Patriots are out.

Speaker 3 He's signing with the Panthers, but instead of him flipping back to New England in that situation, where if he is kind of talking to the Panthers on a Zoom call or something, like he will even have a chance to call the Patriots back per se, because if their one call is over, you know, then he doesn't, you know, because then he ends up with the Panthers.

Speaker 3 And then do you think some guys, let's say they schedule five people, but, you know, you don't even make it to the fifth team and they sign to the first team.

Speaker 4 Like, does that call count towards the people that you have kind of slotted as the five yeah and are you spending all five on top money guys or is it like second third wave guys too that you kind of want to chat with that you're paying medium salaries to there'll be a strategy to all this it will be always is but i'm with you i like it too if you're especially from the team standpoint player standpoint too team standpoint i think it was tomler and someone from the steelers organization saying yeah we just got time to spend intimate time with aaron rodgers and get to know him and if you're investing tens of millions of dollars into a player into a person you definitely want to know and have some in-person conversation with that individual.

Speaker 4 Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah, who is this guy? He's getting paid more than anybody in our locker room? Yeah.

Speaker 1 How about the Steelers signing DK Metcalf for this deal and then being like, we need to be able to fucking talk to this guy.

Speaker 1 I am sick of this. You know, because the Steelers, this isn't really their M.O.

Speaker 1 Day one free agency or anything like that. This is not their thing.
Now they're getting involved in it. They're like, you guys have been doing what?

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 1 No way. Is that how we're going to be doing this going forward? Have an update here.

Speaker 1 We talked about Kirk Cousins potentially going to the Cleveland Browns, which has been gaining steam because of Kirk Cousins' relationship with Stefansky.

Speaker 1 Hembo, genius, stats guy from ESPN who we appreciate. He's AI.

Speaker 1 He is AI. A bit of AI.
Hembo is an AI.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's a human AI. Yep.

Speaker 4 Him and O's.

Speaker 1 O's is a demon. Yeah, Pellicero, I think, is what you're talking about.
Yeah, Pellisero is the one that's plugged in. Yep.

Speaker 9 Yeah, he is. I mean, Oz has a little bit of everything.
He's a demon. He's AI.
He's an alien. He's all of it.

Speaker 1 He's a freak. He is a little bit of a freak.

Speaker 9 Yeah. Shapeshifter, probably.

Speaker 1 There is a chance he does do a little

Speaker 1 you know, now you see me, now you don't pipe thing.

Speaker 1 Anyways, Hembo, the stats AI from ESPN, said Kirk Cousins had a 107.5 passer rating with Kevin Stefanski as his offensive coordinator for the 2018-2019 Vikings.

Speaker 1 That's the highest playing under any OC of his entire career.

Speaker 1 So saying that Stefanski and Kirk Cousins could potentially do well together is with stats backing that up. Highest of Kirk Cousins' careers with Stefanski as the OC.

Speaker 1 Does that change anything for you, AJ? You think the Browns are going to pick up Kirk Cousins potentially here in the next month or two?

Speaker 9 I mean, I think it can't hurt. It definitely changes a little bit.
The fact that they have a history and a past together. Like, why wouldn't Stefanski want to bring Kirk Cousins in?

Speaker 9 Now, the question is,

Speaker 9 can they pay it? How much more is he owed? Like 80 mil, something crazy?

Speaker 1 More than that?

Speaker 1 I don't know the exact. I know it's 37.
I think it was 27, then an extra 10

Speaker 1 as of March. I forget the date, just a few weeks back.

Speaker 9 They can make it work, though, right? If they want him, they can make it work, can't they?

Speaker 1 Well, if the Falcons want him out of the building, they can make it work. Like, the Falcons can pick up a lot of the...

Speaker 1 A lot of the pay. You know, that's what happened with the Russell Wilson, Denver Broncos situation where he goes to the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Now, I believe the Broncos, did they cut?

Speaker 1 Yes, they cut Russell Wilson. So that was a part of that entire deal with the dead cap.
But it's like Falcons trading them.

Speaker 1 You can negotiate how much of the salary you want to pay versus the other team. And what will somebody give up? Will the Cleveland Browns be able to give up? Who knows?

Speaker 4 Kurt has to also sign off on it, right? Since he has a no-trade clause. And he said, what was that? 18, 19?

Speaker 1 Yeah, 2018, 2019. Brady,

Speaker 1 Brady. Brady's still your quarterback? Yeah, Brady's in New England.
Yeah. What are you saying, dude?

Speaker 4 I just trying to remember what we're talking about.

Speaker 1 We're talking about Kirk Cousins. We found that.

Speaker 1 I like Kurt. Why? Why, dude? I like Kurt.

Speaker 4 I'm talking about football and the players. We're not making this personal.
We're talking about football.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, no, I bet as a player. Hey, we don't make this personal.

Speaker 4 No, no, no. We're talking about football.
NFL Pro Plus premium, like me and Bruce are dialed in there.

Speaker 3 And the quarterback series, I think no one looks better than Kirk Cousins. I feel like Kirk's one of those guys that everyone does like, but boy, did he stay in good football last year, you know?

Speaker 1 There were some moments here where he looked like he was still struggling from the Achilles and maybe not fully comfortable in the offense.

Speaker 3 Which is very possible. So the perfect thing for Cleveland would do would be, hey, let's

Speaker 3 sink some more money into this quarterback room. And you know what, Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski, sure, ownership screwed you.
Instead of drafting a young guy, let's bring in an old guy.

Speaker 3 And then guess what? If this doesn't work out, you know, maybe next year.

Speaker 1 Well, it does, from what Haslam said down at the owners' meetings,

Speaker 1 this is what he said.

Speaker 16 Let's address the elephant in the room. You know, we took a big swinging miss with Deshaun.
We thought we had the quarterback. We didn't.

Speaker 16 And we gave up a lot of draft picks to get him. So we've got to dig ourselves out of that hole.

Speaker 6 Shouldn't they be held accountable for that decision?

Speaker 16 Listen, I've said this, I think, numerous times. The Deshaun Watson was an entire organization decision, and it ends with DNI.
So, you know, hold us accountable.

Speaker 1 Hey, don't you think Andrew Berry and Stefansky should be held accountable? Listen, I've said this, I think, before. We haven't heard it.
We've all assumed it was the case.

Speaker 1 We all assumed it was the Haslams that decided to pay Deshaun, which is why Stefanski and Andrew Berry have been given this entire leeway, because if you continue to not have success, you would think that they would be looking for turnover.

Speaker 1 But I think Haslam looks Andrew Berry in the eye and goes,

Speaker 1 We screwed you over pretty good. Okay,

Speaker 4 it's the first time he said this public.

Speaker 1 Well, in my opinion, was that was that did you know he was yeah, ESPN recorded that is what we were told. That was an ESPN recording.

Speaker 1 I believe there was probably no cameras, maybe just audio in that room.

Speaker 1 But it did, it did sound like that was a phone under a pocket, but none of the ESPN recorded it.

Speaker 1 Don't, please, please.

Speaker 1 he's not passing blame he's not passing blame oh i gotta get bonus i respect it too we took a big swing big miss it sucks we move see another day just like we will see you tomorrow goodbye but like i enjoyed the way he laid that out yes we took a big swing okay because think about how good he felt whenever he decided to do this oh man cleveland browns are no longer in the conversation it's either going to be the falcons or the saints allegedly was the deshaun watson market at the time he won it out of the texans wanted out of the texans he was wearing a green hat one time.

Speaker 1 He's going to Philadelphia. Now he's going to the New York Jets.
Well, then everything very, very, very serious off the field came around.

Speaker 1 And the thought was, well, is this guy still going to be able to get traded? Who cares? Who wants him? Well, he's on a football field. He's unbelievable.

Speaker 1 And obviously, these are just allegations at this point. All that happens.
And then the market becomes him in Atlanta and the Saints are his final spots. Cleveland had been ruled out.

Speaker 1 And then out of nowhere, Haslam's walking around his office with his wife. There's a guy available.
We're going to have to take it on Shinzbit.

Speaker 4 Okay, top three quarterback.

Speaker 1 Did you see that JJ Watt

Speaker 1 mic-up clip? Yeah. Where he's walking off the field with Deshaun Watson.
Doesn't ask Pat. Says, sorry, we wasted NFL MVP here.

Speaker 1 So sorry. J.J.
Watt thinks he's good. Don't done me.
We should. Yeah.
What do you think it's going to take? Go to Andrew Berry. What's it going to take? Andrew Berry calls Mulageta.

Speaker 1 Mulagetta goes, ah, $230 million fully guaranteed.

Speaker 1 That's a lot, Andrew Berry says. Back to Mulagetta.
Mulagetta goes, say, you want McClevel or not? Andrew Berry hangs up, calls the Haslam's office back. He said $230 million guaranteed.

Speaker 1 Haslam and Digo, we thought he was going to say $250. We saved $20 million.
Fucking send it. No flubs.
Because that happened like overnight. Oh, yeah.
It was like a boom, bang, pow, boom. Gone.

Speaker 1 Signed. Biggest deal in history.
Most guaranteed money in history. Oh, my God.
The entire NFL is now on notice because of what Haslam just did. And it just has not worked out.
No. At all.
At all.

Speaker 1 On the field, off the field.

Speaker 4 Might have said the the NFL back fully guaranteed contract.

Speaker 1 Might have ruined the other quarterback.

Speaker 4 I had to change that for.

Speaker 4 I know Josh Allen just got what, 250?

Speaker 4 Something like 330. Yeah, fully guaranteed.

Speaker 4 But once Deshaun happened, we thought, like, oh, yeah, this is, you know, when Lamar is up and this guy's up, and that guy's up, and for it to work out like it did.

Speaker 4 But at that time, you know, you got a top three, four quarterback in his prime available. Walking around his office.

Speaker 1 We did it, D.

Speaker 5 I was actually waiting for him in that clip to be like, you know what, now that I think about it, this was kind of D's idea.

Speaker 1 I was

Speaker 3 look, I said no, but D,

Speaker 1 she wanted it. So think about Andrew Berry going in every year to describe the team now.

Speaker 1 Well, since we're in a deficit of $120 million,

Speaker 1 okay, this is what everybody else can do. Remember? This is what we have the capability of doing.
And Jimmy's like, I get it. Yeah, you got another three, four years that you need it.

Speaker 4 Jesus, I messed it up. I get get it.

Speaker 1 I made a big, dumb decision. But remember, in a moment, we're going to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 In a moment, we're going to win the Super Bowl. If it worked out, think about it.

Speaker 9 I mean, it was a big swing, no question, huge swing. So either you're the hero and you find a way to win the Super Bowl, or this is probably worst case scenario, right? What happened with it?

Speaker 1 Yes. No doubt.
Yeah. They're all parties.
Hard worst. Hard to think of worst.
Except for Deshaun. All parties except for Deshaun.

Speaker 3 That's why I like the Shaddur at the top just feels like it makes more sense because then you at least give him like, hey, now you do, now your clock's actually on.

Speaker 3 You get three, four years you have a shadure sanders and the conversation about the draft is how you know deep the pass rushers and you know the linemen are and the tight ends it's like hey the quarterbacks basically are Cam Ward, Shadur, Jackson Dart, it feels like now.

Speaker 3 And then kind of the next tier, if the tier thing is how we're kind of approaching it when it comes to the group of players.

Speaker 3 So, I mean, maybe they do do the Carter and Miles Garrett and roll with, you know, Kenny Pickett, but it does feel like to what Schraeger said: hey, if they told Garrett there's a plan and Garrett believes in the plan, and that plan does include $40.1 million a year for Miles Garrett, like maybe that is a legitimate choice for them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's the whole different animal there. Whenever Andrew Berry goes back to Hasm and says, I got bad news again, buddy.

Speaker 1 What's that? Miles Garrett, not only is he dunking on me in his statement, but he wants the hell out of here. And Haslam goes, What's it going to take? So Andrew Barry goes, What's it going to take?

Speaker 1 $40 million. I'm going to go back.
Send it. Miles Gary.

Speaker 1 Keep him around.

Speaker 3 And he tried to meet with Haslim and Haslim.

Speaker 1 You talk to Andrew Berry.

Speaker 4 Tell Andrew what you need.

Speaker 1 You tell Andrew what he needs. He'll call me in a panic.
I'll agree to it. You've seen this game before.

Speaker 1 What if the Browns win? Hey, good luck, Doug Pat. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No chance. They won't.

Speaker 3 No chance. Zero percent.

Speaker 1 Zero percent zero.

Speaker 1 I feel like you say this every offseason. Hey, what if the Browns win? What if Browns are going to win? That division is hell.
Yeah, but I try to be as optimistic as possible for all the wins.

Speaker 1 Just like I'm optimistic about the Colts. Holy hell.
What if the Colts win? Win what, though? Yep. Like the Super Bowl? Browns make the playoffs.
I'm not saying that's going to happen.

Speaker 1 I'm saying, what if the Browns make the playoffs with all these conversations?

Speaker 5 I mean, you said it, the Bengals, the Texans, Commanders. None of those teams were making the playoffs before the year that they did.

Speaker 1 That's true. You're right.
Miles Garrett, too, a little bit more ownership of the Browns. Not that he didn't have it before, but he's

Speaker 1 recharged.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we saw him on the in-season Hard Knox Texan in the meeting room. That's a good point.

Speaker 1 Daves doubted.

Speaker 7 He's playing Candy Crush.

Speaker 1 Okay, game. It's a good game.
It is.

Speaker 4 I mean, look at the success of the number two picks the last couple years.

Speaker 1 Exactly. CJ.

Speaker 1 It's good luck. Jaden.

Speaker 1 Shador. Shador.

Speaker 1 That was a thing. The Browns are definitely taking a quarterback at two.
That was like two weeks ago.

Speaker 5 That was Mary Kaye Cabot said that, yeah.

Speaker 7 She said they might take two in the first round.

Speaker 5 They're trading back in to get another quarterback in the first round.

Speaker 1 Merry Kay's been covering the rounds a long time. A long time.

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Speaker 1 Rules and restrictions apply.

Speaker 1 With that being said,

Speaker 1 you gotta watch it. You put a pundit hat on.
It's always tough with the insiders.

Speaker 9 Hey, the goal post got me. The goal post got me.
No joke. I was like, I don't know how they're going to do it.
It was going to obstruct some views from people in the end zone.

Speaker 9 I don't know how the balls...

Speaker 1 Maybe it'll walk a few extra things, but hey, why not?

Speaker 1 The only thing I was thinking is that thing was a little bit wider, wider, you know. But what if they have palm trees that go in?

Speaker 1 You don't want that. You got to make sure those palm trees are going out.

Speaker 1 You know, we need to keep the top clip tight. You ever see that? Sell seats.

Speaker 9 Sell seats on the crossbar, too. Make it wide so people can sit there and watch the game.
It's like the camera. If the ball hits them, it's good.

Speaker 1 Okay, I like that. And people can actually bat it in.

Speaker 3 Yeah. It could hang underneath like a roller coaster.

Speaker 1 Like bitter pong. Yeah.
It hits the rim. Boom.
Knock it out. Bat it in.

Speaker 1 It's not a bad idea. I mean, are we trying to get people to the game or not? Are we trying to grow the game or not?

Speaker 9 This isn't Pitbull Stadium, is it?

Speaker 1 No, it's FIU, right? F-I-U, correct. Miami.

Speaker 3 Because he's Mr. Worldwide for the International University.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Pitbull

Speaker 1 Stadium.

Speaker 1 We've got an addition to the Thunderdome. AJ, I don't know if you saw it on the wide shot.

Speaker 1 I don't know if it was here yesterday when you were here. I have no idea.
No.

Speaker 9 Oh, no. This was coming.
Like, this was on the way. I didn't get to see it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's the puncher power thing.

Speaker 9 Have you guys been doing it?

Speaker 1 Hit it a couple times this morning.

Speaker 1 Bruce, who is a trained boxer, if you do recall. Oh, okay.
Hit a 921 on that thing. I was not here for it, but he had to give it a good thump.

Speaker 1 I banged it a little bit. I'm a little worried, though.
I'm a little worried. It might be 11, but we're going to have to reset it.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 Hit one,

Speaker 1 eight something, let's say.

Speaker 1 Hit one, nine something, and then I really laid into it. I mean, there was the last one was by far the cleanest rattle and put full ass into it.
And it was like 801 or like lowest.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, uh-oh.

Speaker 1 Can't have that.

Speaker 9 Get that thing calibrated.

Speaker 1 Needs to be calibrated.

Speaker 1 Can you kick it? Can you get your leg up there and kick it? That looks sweet right now. What's that?

Speaker 4 I think it's currently calibrated.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it looks like it is.

Speaker 1 It's been dancing this whole fucking time. I know it's, it needs to figure it out.
It looks cool. It does look cool.
Yeah, it is sweet. Kicking, it's going to be tough, I think, unless you do one.

Speaker 1 Also, in my algorithm, as of late, I think it's karate. They go through the boards

Speaker 1 where they run, get tossed,

Speaker 1 and then they hutchy.

Speaker 1 Then they land it. Yeah.
They get tossed. Toss.
Oh, I haven't seen that. They're grown up.
Galloping like a clean run, and then they catch somebody and then boom, they're in the sky. They're doing

Speaker 1 four-time one of these

Speaker 1 through a board that's being held like up on a pillar. So now I've seen that.
It's nuts. Because I always thought I see that.

Speaker 1 I was, you know, I've said this before, but back in the day, you had a friend that knew karate. You were okay in most places.
Not a doubt. You know?

Speaker 1 But now with the mixed martial arts thing, you know, the karate one is going to need more. We're going to need more than just karate.
Peter Raspberry. Oh, really?

Speaker 4 I don't know.

Speaker 9 Jiu-Jitsu got to get you down.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'll take a jiu-jitsu

Speaker 4 black belt.

Speaker 1 Yeah, what you're saying is all the other ones. Like, karate, good to have in the arsenal.
Back pocket can

Speaker 1 till you go to the ground, though.

Speaker 9 That's not, karate's not going to help you on the ground.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm worried about the MMA. Cauliflower.
Yeah, because they're going down the bottom and you're going through that board in there. I think karate is good to have with you.
Sure.

Speaker 1 But I think you need more.

Speaker 1 What I'm saying is, if I got a black belt and karate with me, I'm pumped to be with a ninja. I'm pumped.

Speaker 1 But I do know that if we get to somebody that has ground and pound capabilities, we're both fucked. Okay.
Now, if karate person also has... ground and pound another belt

Speaker 1 with that now we're in a great space need multiple belts now to be completely safe in a lot of places. But with that being said, when I saw the flying karate kicks, we're back.
Oh, yeah. Because,

Speaker 1 you know, the call flyer, you'll want to go ground and pound.

Speaker 1 If you got a karate friend, you need to take it to the sky. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. Okay.
So that is what I learned from my algo. And you just got to have strategies.
You got to know where you're at.

Speaker 1 You got to know who you're with. Got a karate guy, start practicing this one.

Speaker 1 If you get his ass up in the sky, from what I have seen,

Speaker 1 like a cat, land on their fucking feet.

Speaker 1 And wow, in sky, precision.

Speaker 1 You got a chance. Okay.
And it's loud, too. There's a lot of yelling.
Very loud. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 9 I'm sure it has a lot of good carryover in any real combat situation. It does.

Speaker 1 Guy up on a ledge at a bar. Yep.
Throws a bottle down at you. Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 1 You dodge bottle, obviously, because you're with a guy who knows karate and he has the seventh sense to let you know that that's the case. You turn, you see him.
He goes, what? Your karate friend.

Speaker 1 haiku

Speaker 1 you assemble okay you and the lads put your drinks down for a second you're not throwing bottles back obviously but karate guy karate friend karate man runs you

Speaker 1 cheerleader toss up and that guy up on the bar goes from this to

Speaker 1 that and he's not

Speaker 1 and that's hey now we're doing two story fighting and uh that's what it's like when you're in the sky with a karate guy need to animate it right there there.

Speaker 1 Now I'm rethinking it. You're right.

Speaker 1 Talk to the high cook.

Speaker 1 The issue is, if you don't have a ground and pounder, you do have to go to places that have two stories.

Speaker 7 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 1 That's a big part of the crew. Only two-story place.
You can't be in one of those shithole bars that has a real low roof. No, no.
That is not where you want to be. We're good news.
We are screwed.

Speaker 3 Every karate high flyer knows ground and pounder. So it's like they're basically a package deal.

Speaker 1 Okay, you better hope so. If not, need to stay on the lower level of a multi-level bar.
Sure.

Speaker 1 Because they're never going to expect

Speaker 1 coming up.

Speaker 9 But what if he's like, what if he's on the third story and he jumps down to the first and kicks him from there? He doesn't need boosted.

Speaker 1 Is he...

Speaker 1 Are we fighting a karate kid as well? We didn't know that was the first time.

Speaker 9 No, our karate kid. Our karate kid sees our target down on the first level.
He's on the third level, jumps off the balcony. He doesn't need your help to boost him.

Speaker 1 No, you can do it.

Speaker 1 He's got his eyes. He's our spotter.

Speaker 9 He's like our sniper. He's Jack Ryan up in the tower.

Speaker 1 Then you become the filmer.

Speaker 3 The guy who's tossing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you need to get that on film.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I got the camera then.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I need to get that on film, especially if guys come down from three stories, 30 feet. He comes through,

Speaker 1 glides through the

Speaker 1 front loop.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Lands it easy. It's like a parkour roll to land.
I do enjoy the parkour. That's been in my timeline, too.
I seen this guy do a,

Speaker 1 he did a double McTwistie sideways flip thing. A Benson Boone, I'll call it.
Okay. He's doing a lot of those.
This thing? Two buildings.

Speaker 5 Was it necessary?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Might have been 40, 50 full. I mean,

Speaker 1 just so casual. Dumping over.
That's dead.

Speaker 1 And I think there was rocks. I think there was rocks on both sides.
It's like, what are they, what's wrong with?

Speaker 9 Oh, yeah, they die.

Speaker 1 And that's what I see.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 9 But I'm saying those guys are unbelievable. They'll jump super high and they have weight.
Like, they use their body to absorb the landing and then roll out of it.

Speaker 1 Like, they're freaks. They're legit.

Speaker 5 They use it every day in everyday situations.

Speaker 9 I would. Seems like it.
That's what it's for.

Speaker 1 If you're a parkour guy. Yeah, if I had that, it'd be fuck you.

Speaker 1 Jackie Chan, dude. Remember, he used to get out of everywhere.
There was a wall. I don't think so.
He saw stairs. Pump, pump, pump, pump, bang.
He's the GOAT. Yeah, he's them and Tom.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Jackie's still doing it.

Speaker 7 Oh, yeah, he's in Karate Kid movies coming.

Speaker 1 Killing it.

Speaker 7 Karate Kid Legends.

Speaker 1 Jackie Chan. Oh, shit.

Speaker 7 Trailer actually dropped today, I think.

Speaker 1 You know, the best thing about those Jackie Chan movies, we're all going to say it. The credits.

Speaker 7 Oh, yeah, the outtakes.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, that. Yeah, because the B Lord's Rose don't know what that is.
Did you ever see a Jackie Chan movie, Deba?

Speaker 4 I don't stay for the credit. I only stay for the credits in Marvel movie.

Speaker 1 This is unbelievable.

Speaker 1 Rush Hour?

Speaker 1 Just watch Rush Hour. This guy disrespects every movie.
I watched Rush Hour the other day, too. I watched it this weekend.
It was on. Yes.
Yeah, I loved it.

Speaker 1 I was trying to guess the characters. Like, do I still know? Because very early, there's a boat war fights.
Oh, yeah. Juntao.
First, Juntao, yeah, shows up with the hair.

Speaker 1 He goes, I'm looking for Jun Tao. And then he goes, Why are you looking for me? And then, boom, it's off.
And I'm like, oh, yeah, we're back in it.

Speaker 1 And I don't think my wife had seen Rush Hour, which was a full

Speaker 1 what are we doing here? Great movie. What? Conversation that happened between us? Had to pause it actually to have a how does that happen? How does that one slip through the cracks? We get there.

Speaker 1 I haven't seen a Disney movie, so I guess she had a lot to say back. We press play to that thing.
I forgot.

Speaker 1 So good. So that's that's a good one.

Speaker 7 They're on Rush Hour 2 also holds up very good.

Speaker 1 But you need to stay for the credits. I mean, that's remember?

Speaker 3 That's what they're all laughing at, Jackie and Jackie.

Speaker 1 Why only the Marvel movies?

Speaker 4 Well, you got to

Speaker 4 post credits. You got to see what's coming next.

Speaker 1 They introduced different characters.

Speaker 1 Yes, they do. Whose voice is that?

Speaker 1 Some superhero fan it sounds like. Tony Rhodes loves me, basically.

Speaker 9 Who was it? Was that Shady who was running up and down giving spoilers for Marvel movies? He became my favorite human when I heard him.

Speaker 4 They hated him on Twitter.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Hey, I got to see Blank early.
It was wild.

Speaker 15 I can't believe Iron Man died.

Speaker 3 He said on like the Wednesday before the movie came out. And people were not happy.

Speaker 1 That happened to Hulk as well.

Speaker 3 Mark Ruffalo was doing an interview before the Infinity War. He's like, just wait.
Everybody dies.

Speaker 1 And then he, oh, was I not supposed to say that?

Speaker 3 Then they were not happy with it.

Speaker 1 So now the superhero world is not as strong as it once was, though, right?

Speaker 3 It's coming back.

Speaker 1 It is.

Speaker 1 With Thinker War,

Speaker 1 they're a superhero.

Speaker 5 They're bringing back

Speaker 5 all the main guys.

Speaker 1 Really? I saw a video the other day where they were just panning out. Yeah,

Speaker 1 all the mains are coming back.

Speaker 3 A lot of the main guys. And they also made Iron Man a different character now.
So Robert Dino Jr.'s back as well.

Speaker 7 He's a bad guy now.

Speaker 1 Dr. Doom, you could say.
Are they going to bring... Are they going to...

Speaker 1 All right. Are they going to bring...

Speaker 5 What do you want to talk about, Marvel Universe?

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I wasn't doing that. Oh, I thought you were.
That's unbelievable.

Speaker 7 What is this guy doing?

Speaker 1 Cody Rhodes dropped John Cena last night. He did.
Did he? Crossroads.

Speaker 1 Cena was cooking, fam.

Speaker 1 He was.

Speaker 1 He was. He was burying it.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I like how Cody did a little B-rap.

Speaker 1 Of course, I grew up in a trailer park, and yeah, he did fuck my girl.

Speaker 1 He did do that. I like that.
What were you going to say about Marvel?

Speaker 1 Oh, they spring Snow White in. Tomorrow.
Oh, it turns out

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 1 they should bring Zegler into one of these Marvel things and just have it happen.

Speaker 3 They canceled all her stuff, actually.

Speaker 1 No, but that's what I'm saying. Well, could do it in a way.

Speaker 1 If Disney owns Marvel,

Speaker 1 Disney could really get what they pay for out of it.

Speaker 1 Get it, you know,

Speaker 1 drop her in a Marvel universe. What's going on here? Penguins cut off.
And somebody just,

Speaker 1 all right. Yeah.
And then just keep it walking. Yeah.
It's not a bad idea. That'd be a good little self.

Speaker 1 I am DB. 1.

Speaker 1 Something.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Setting up to be the biggest.

Speaker 1 How is that easy?

Speaker 7 Well, I'm guessing that's a lot of people who haven't seen the movie, but they're not exactly okay with what's going on around the movie, so they just go right in and say, oh, this one?

Speaker 1 I think this is zero out of chat.

Speaker 1 Who gets to vote on those? Anybody. Okay.
I thought that was potentially people that were. No, that happens a lot.

Speaker 1 It's the lowest score of all time.

Speaker 9 Snow White, the new Snow White? Is that what you're talking about?

Speaker 1 It's not out yet.

Speaker 9 What about Rotten Tomatoes? What have they done?

Speaker 1 I think it was super juicy. Yeah.
Is that people certified fresh? Oh, certified fresh. What happened?

Speaker 3 You know exactly what happened. And it does suck because those movies do do well.

Speaker 1 Like that

Speaker 1 live action.

Speaker 5 40% on.

Speaker 1 Is that good? Is 40% move?

Speaker 7 No, I'd be rotten. But it's not, you know, it's not terrible.
It's not 1.7 bad.

Speaker 1 I think dropping Snow White in Marvel movie would be good.

Speaker 3 That'd be cool. Or like a John Wick.

Speaker 3 She just

Speaker 3 killing a bunch of people.

Speaker 1 Yeah, maybe.

Speaker 9 The Accountant 2 is coming out. Ben Affleck.
That looks good.

Speaker 1 I love the first one.

Speaker 9 He was a killer, sniper, mercenary type guy.

Speaker 1 He had to do media for that. He was talking about a lot of things.

Speaker 1 Oh, he was. A lot of things.
I didn't see that.

Speaker 3 Yeah, John Bernthal.

Speaker 1 Let's go. Oh, John Bernthal's legit.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 1 There's another movie somebody's in that we're

Speaker 7 modeling the TV show.

Speaker 1 There it is. Yeah.

Speaker 9 There's another. Yeah, Bruce was talking about it.
Is that good?

Speaker 7 Pierce Brosnan.

Speaker 1 Tom Winston. Not harder.

Speaker 3 Have him wash you out.

Speaker 1 Hey, speaking of good,

Speaker 1 Jameis Winston bat 1,000 as New York Giants quarterback. We have a clip of him describing what life could be like if they play football well.

Speaker 10 Winning for me in the NFL, it's required for this organization to start winning, you know, so we can have more

Speaker 10 giggles, more laughter, more fun

Speaker 10 in this building. Like we're in the biggest city of the world, we should enjoy that.

Speaker 1 And I think winning does that.

Speaker 10 So when it comes to looking at their record, I didn't look at this team being a 3-14 team. I looked at what was possible.

Speaker 10 And what I saw was possible is an offense that can execute efficiently and that can be explosive. I saw a defense with an incredible front.
And I saw this offseason of them adding

Speaker 10 Paul Nadibo and Javon Holland in the back end to create some noise to help that front get home.

Speaker 10 And I just figured that the Giants, man, they don't look like a 3-14 team from the talks of

Speaker 10 people talking about, I know Kaybon, I know Byron a little bit and Dex, like from their talks and their conversations, like the locker room didn't seem like it was a three and 14 team.

Speaker 10 So this team is looking for a complete paradigm shift. This team is looking to make a splash, man.
And there's no better place to do it

Speaker 10 with no greater calling to do it than right here in New York City being a New York football giant.

Speaker 1 Hell yeah. He said that in New Jersey, obviously, but the point remains.

Speaker 18 Is there more giggles uh around the corner with a paradigm shift bruce brown noted new york giants fan more giggles more laughter more fun i'm going to my third parade boys i hope to see you all there i can't wait this fired me up i absolutely love jameis i'm excited for russ whenever he he does his presser as well just to see that dynamic um and then you know there was shador talking about it too that he might be getting uh i think deon said he might be getting baptized pregame in the pregame speeches so uh things are looking up i'm fired up as you should be hell yeah Yankees still doing good?

Speaker 7 Yeah, still undefeated. I had an off day yesterday.
They got the Arizona Diamondbacks coming to the town of the night.

Speaker 1 You guys are already taking off days. I'm wow.

Speaker 6 Oh.

Speaker 1 I didn't know that. What the heck?

Speaker 1 I thought baseball was every day for 160.

Speaker 7 I mean, it was up to the Yankees. They'd play every day.

Speaker 3 They'd play 200 games if they had to.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 4 A lot of people in those seats.

Speaker 7 That's a long flight for the Diamondbacks.

Speaker 1 A lot of people. A lot of people in those seats.

Speaker 9 How many doubleheaders do they have now? Like, how many doubleheaders will a team have?

Speaker 7 None unless there's like rainouts.

Speaker 9 Really? They don't schedule them anymore? No.

Speaker 7 Nah, this is fucking high school baseball.

Speaker 1 Come on, why not?

Speaker 9 Knock two out in one day. Let's do it.

Speaker 7 Yeah, let's play two five-inning games. This would be fucking nuts.
If there's a rainout, maybe.

Speaker 7 It says in fucking 12-year-old AAU baseball.

Speaker 1 We're not playing doubleheaders. This is New York Yankees.
What do you want? A running clock, too? In football, bump?

Speaker 9 Oh, no, not in football. But no, I tell you what, the old baseball doubleheader, that's a great day for them, too.

Speaker 1 Some people go to both games. That's right.
A session, maybe.

Speaker 1 You could just get two games for one ticket that'd be good for make him a day a day off the next day obviously yeah let the boys rest just at two what is the uh whenever there's a cancellation or a delay is it a shorter game or they play two nine inning games no yeah two nine inning games covet they did the seven seven yeah correct yeah to jam in 60 some games yeah

Speaker 7 did we like it better or no no no when is uh john carlos stanton back uh as soon as he can move his elbows so we don't know he's actually started picking up a bat and swinging it again, which is huge.

Speaker 1 Two of them? Maybe he does two torpedoes. Are you allowed to have two torpedo bats in the batter's box? Yeah, you just got to stay on the plate.
Jean Farlow

Speaker 1 having two of those would be sweet. I guess you'd want to swing those sideways.
Yeah. So you get double the.
You wouldn't want to swing those.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 1 Be early, late? I don't know. Yeah, would you want to be early and late, or would you want to be side by side? Would you want to be? Early and late.
Early or late.

Speaker 1 Would you want to be bang pong like one of those?

Speaker 1 like you'd want to double stack them you want this up here because guess what you're making contact a whole hell of a lot right so you're turning that thing sideways like yeah you could also start like x here and then boom boom like that well what's that

Speaker 1 i'm standing behind home no no you're squirting like this you're starting them down here like this okay and then you're coming out

Speaker 1 But what are you

Speaker 1 standing? Might have to come. Don't worry.

Speaker 1 You're standing on the plate, brother. Yeah, you're standing behind.

Speaker 9 Just your meat right there in the strike.

Speaker 1 You're facing the bitches.

Speaker 1 Okay, you're confident, dude. Yeah.
And you're crossing him up. Yep.
And then

Speaker 1 the two balls coming?

Speaker 7 If you don't make contact, you're either wearing a hundred mile an hour fastball on the chin or to the tip of the penis.

Speaker 3 Take your base.

Speaker 1 Take your base. Yeah, my OPS should be on board.
You're right in the middle of Chester.

Speaker 1 Baseball needs to embrace the bait. And let two torpedo bats be in one guy's hand.
One night. Let him try it.
One night. What do you want? Let's stand the bananas.
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 Let the bananas do it. There we go.
Let the bananas do it.

Speaker 7 Let those jerk offs do it.

Speaker 1 That's it. Jerkoffs.

Speaker 1 That's great.

Speaker 1 They spat out a bit. Fucking stadiums.
Shut up, baby. Have some respect.
I know, dude.

Speaker 7 I have no ill will towards the bananas.

Speaker 1 Sounds like you do.

Speaker 15 Just kind of in the moment.

Speaker 7 Because, yeah, they're brain of baseballs. Kind of jerk off, jack-off, baseball.

Speaker 1 It's a show. I get it.
I get it. How about when old guys, how about when they catch it through the legs?

Speaker 7 Some of the shit they do is wildly impressive. Yes.
Like, I mean, it really is.

Speaker 1 Because there's no way they can

Speaker 1 set anything up, right?

Speaker 7 Not really. I mean,

Speaker 7 it's a live baseball game. It's pretty tough to.

Speaker 1 You know, those MLB pitchers are so locked in. They need so many breaths.
They need their entire thing. I'm watching these Bananis pitchers, and they're doing full

Speaker 1 banging it, banging it, banging.

Speaker 1 And then they're coming in there right into it. And

Speaker 1 12 to 6. Yeah.
Break it off. Banana guy breaks his shit.
Guy comes in with two

Speaker 1 stilts on two stilts in this backflip pitcher. And then he's throwing underhanded the other way.
Straight.

Speaker 1 I mean, I don't know how these guys aren't getting looks. First of all.
Well, it's because these guys are throwing about 84 miles an hour. What?

Speaker 1 Look at the stilts. Look at this.
Look at what he's about to do. Look at the ump even.
Uh-huh. The ref's even bopping a little bit.
Uh-huh. Is that ref 7'3? It's part of the show.
And

Speaker 1 hold it. Straight.
That was a foul. That was a foul.

Speaker 1 I did it again, Red Black. I love the ref.
That was a lot. I don't love the ump.
No, he's a part of it. That's dancing ump.
He's got good,

Speaker 1 good moxing. The dump.
Yeah, because I did a Monday Night Raw at Savannah, Georgia.

Speaker 1 And some of the bananas were there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he caught it. And look, he just threw it under his fucking leg.
Yes.

Speaker 1 That was this.

Speaker 1 He did this one right here. Yeah, you're right.
How slow is that?

Speaker 1 Behind the back, bang, through the legs, double play. Savanny bananas.
Wow. They're doing it.
I agree. That's right.
Is that ump?

Speaker 9 Is that ump a ninja at first base? He's wearing a full face mask thing?

Speaker 1 I mean, you can't be doing it.

Speaker 7 You got kids in the crate.

Speaker 1 Yeah, sex dollars baseball.

Speaker 1 Cross chop. They definitely can't be doing.
What a play. Yeah, what a play.

Speaker 1 Give me that, he says. They were losing, too.

Speaker 5 Yeah, they were down.

Speaker 1 The bananas? Barbara Animals are a good team. They're a good team.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but because they did the behind-the-back snag in between the legs throw, they got five runs and one.

Speaker 1 Which they should. Which maybe MLB should think about.

Speaker 1 Maybe instituting some of the banana rules.

Speaker 7 We got the torpedo bats. Let's keep the Mickey Mouse shit for the Savannah bananas.
They could keep dancing and waving their poopers everywhere and grabbing their penises after the fucking annicot.

Speaker 1 The dancing ump though, I will say he was right behind me for Raw.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's got it. I bet.
Yeah, he is. Yeah, I don't mind this guy.

Speaker 7 He's got good swags. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 He's bringing the boom.

Speaker 1 I'm out on the dump. What? I like the players.
He's not a dump pire. He is the dancing umpire.
Which is the dump pire. Oh, oh, oh.

Speaker 1 Look, let's kind of get this game reined in a little bit. Dancing ump said, you got it.

Speaker 3 The dump is a big time.

Speaker 1 Look at me.

Speaker 1 Oh, he's running this show.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if I've ever seen it. Oh,

Speaker 1 oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

Speaker 9 Professional self-defense dancers making it about himself.

Speaker 1 No, he's passing time. Another pitcher's warming up.
We're here to watch

Speaker 1 the name

Speaker 3 and the party nut jobs. We're not here to watch the dump.

Speaker 1 Well, he's got to have eyes all over the park. If somebody catches it, it's an at.
That's a good point. And it stands.

Speaker 3 That can end the game.

Speaker 1 Everybody thinks this umpire is making a joke of the game. Instead, he's got a harder job than these fuckers doing the MLB.
I disagree. What? He's got to pay attention to the dance moves.

Speaker 5 He is the show.

Speaker 1 He thinks he is. They don't have the box to tell him if it's a strike or a ball.
He's got to call that thing freehand. They don't have strikes and balls, I thought.

Speaker 1 Others like misses and almost hit it.

Speaker 1 Something like that.

Speaker 1 On that, I think we're done here. We need to go to a game.

Speaker 9 Anyone in there been to a game?

Speaker 7 Mitt went to the whole three-game set, ran the bases afterwards.

Speaker 1 Spent the whole week with the

Speaker 3 game winner, but it hit him right in the mouth. He lost two teeth.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's why he talks the way he does. Zee, hey,

Speaker 1 how was it? Zee, it was a good show, wasn't it? Yeah, it was absolutely amazing. It's a good show.
It was so no seat empty. It's insane.
I got respect. I got respect for the show they put on.

Speaker 1 Kids would love it.

Speaker 9 Trust me. Kids would absolutely love it.

Speaker 1 Well, it's like Harlem Globe Tries, but for baseball. Yeah, exactly.
It's cool.

Speaker 1 Sold out a football stadium. No, yeah.

Speaker 1 What they do is wildly impressive.

Speaker 7 It is. It's just like, I love baseball.
I'd rather go watch a regular baseball game than all that.

Speaker 1 Is it all ex-college baseball guys?

Speaker 7 Mostly, I think. Because you still, like, some of these guys, like, you can't just be like a fucking scrub.

Speaker 7 I mean, they still got guys throwing, you know, it's still like an amazing, decent baseball product. Yeah.

Speaker 7 So, yeah, I don't think they have any, you know, beer league guys out there. It's mostly guys who probably played like high D1 baseball.

Speaker 1 Maybe they should test out some stuff for the MLB.

Speaker 7 I don't think so. We got the torpedo bats right now.
I think that's a good start.

Speaker 4 I see one pitcher pitching from both sides.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 In Seattle? Yep.

Speaker 3 That was crazy. Did he make the team?

Speaker 7 I don't know if he made the team.

Speaker 3 I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 He had the glove that was able to get on both hands. Dual web, yeah.

Speaker 3 On like 95 both sides. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Love that. Yeah, he was crazy.
What? He would have to deem it before each batter? No.

Speaker 1 In between pitches.

Speaker 9 You can switch?

Speaker 7 He could, but it'd be mostly like, you know, if a lefty was up, he'd probably pitch left-handed. If a righty was up, he'd throw right-handed.

Speaker 1 But in middle of count, can he switch?

Speaker 3 He could, yeah.

Speaker 7 He could throw left, right, left, right, left, right every pitch if he wanted to.

Speaker 3 That'd be so. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Savannah Bananis need him. They do.

Speaker 4 He needs to reset the market.

Speaker 1 Well, Shohag was supposed to do it, but they won't let him pitch because he's too good of a hitter.

Speaker 2 He could pitch back-to-back days.

Speaker 9 You're going righty-lefty, couldn't you?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's

Speaker 9 like, if you say, this day I'm pitching righty on Monday, on Tuesday, I'm pitching lefty.

Speaker 1 I'm going complete game both days. Double Tommy.
Yeah, your back wouldn't hurt at all.

Speaker 4 You, Giancarlo, on the mail. Double Tommy.

Speaker 1 Is this the guy? Yeah, this is the guy.

Speaker 4 Is this old? He did make.

Speaker 3 No,

Speaker 3 this is the same clip I saw. So he threw that one lefty, right?

Speaker 1 This is preseason, bottom of the fifth here. Yeah.
5-2, they're down. So they switched the glove over to the other hand.
Now he's a righty.

Speaker 3 Let's see.

Speaker 1 Is this live action or is this preseason?

Speaker 7 No, I think this was spring training, right?

Speaker 3 Yeah, this is spring training. This is a clip I saw, yeah.
So now he's right.

Speaker 9 Why is the spring training kind of cold?

Speaker 1 Where are they?

Speaker 9 Back. Arizona.

Speaker 1 So he's supposed to be

Speaker 9 pretty sick, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that'd be fun to be able to do. That'd be cool.

Speaker 9 I grew up with a kid on my travel baseball team that did that, Matt Williams.

Speaker 7 Literally out of nowhere.

Speaker 7 Like out of nowhere.

Speaker 1 You okay?

Speaker 7 Oh, no. I'm just waiting.
See, I don't know if we're taking a break. I don't know if we're doing it, but I am going to poop my pig.

Speaker 1 Like, this is

Speaker 1 if I make this. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 I got to just make it. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Oh, nice.

Speaker 4 Make it, make it.

Speaker 1 Shoot one. Tell us.
Hey, actually, yo, punch one. Punch one.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Punch one.

Speaker 1 Yo, punch one.

Speaker 4 What did he eat this water, Carter?

Speaker 1 Ooh, I don't know. He had a noodles.

Speaker 3 He had a noodles and company, and he had a jumbo coffee.

Speaker 3 Jumbo coffee.

Speaker 1 But this is normally from last night. This is normally.

Speaker 1 The one in the middle of the show is normally, last night it ate my bladder, bro.

Speaker 1 You see, Keenan responded. Keenan said, I don't know what that was all about.

Speaker 1 He said, give me a God's country as if we're not under the umbrella of God up here. It's like maybe he was just saying, give me home.
Oh, like from Keenan to Kel? Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's been on SNL for, what, 30 years? A long time. He's been the longest for sure.

Speaker 1 He didn't want to go to the after party. Well, I think Morgan just saw the exit and was, well, they said he's been on the show before, and the the last time he had to not do that.

Speaker 1 I was like, okay, well, I didn't remember that.

Speaker 1 We came home to his boy. I'm not a kid, we suppose.
Hey, he's got a little bit of a boy. He's got a better boy.
He's got a boy.

Speaker 1 Okay, got a little bit of heat.

Speaker 1 Not heat. Got a little bit of a situation brewing.
Jerry Jones at the owners meeting said, you know, he's not worried about the contract with Micah Parsons. Then there was a report that there was

Speaker 1 a contract offered to Micah Parsons. Clarence Hill Jr., Jerry Jones, with blatant disrespect to Micah Parsons agent David Muligeta.
The agent is not a concern here. I don't know his name.

Speaker 1 Muligeta is one of the best and most respected agents in the NFL. Of course it is.
Let's scroll up here now to the response here from Micah.

Speaker 1 Facts, David is the best and I will not be doing any deal without Mulagueta involved. Like anyone with good sense, I hired experts for a reason.

Speaker 1 There is no one I trust more when it comes to negotiating contracts than David.

Speaker 1 There will be no back doors in this contract negotiation because allegedly Jerry had been talking to Micah Micah and then his agent wasn't involved.

Speaker 1 His agent being Mulagetta, Jerry saying he doesn't know the name of his agent is interesting because Mulagueta, he's the one.

Speaker 1 Every position group, basically, he's the one that has the biggest contract at that position group. He was the one behind the Deshaun Watson deal.

Speaker 1 He was the one behind both DB deals that got signed this particular offseason. I believe wide receiver, you go through it.
Mulageta is the guy. He is an absolute dog when it comes to this.

Speaker 1 So there's a little heat. Jerry Jones saying, I don't know this guy's name.
That's crazy.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that is crazy. And him even being offered the contract behind the agents back, if that's true.
I don't, you know, let's hope this isn't an April 1 type situation.

Speaker 4 Doesn't look like it, but that's wild.

Speaker 4 And then to say you don't know the agent, I believe he's been repping Micah for at least a couple years now because I can remember offseason where him and Stroud were doing some offseason shit.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 4 Like, how when you know?

Speaker 3 Does he have CD or Trevon Diggs or I'm looking right at any of those? I would assume.

Speaker 1 Even if he's one of them.

Speaker 4 Yeah, even if he didn't know. Like Jerry Jones, like, yeah, you know.

Speaker 9 Jerry's letting them know, hey, I'm in charge here, bud.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I've been in the league a lot longer than this David fell.

Speaker 1 We know, Jerry.

Speaker 1 So that's good. Anytime that type of shit pops off.
That's Cowboys. You know, that's classic.
That's good. This is just like T.
Higgins put a cap thing out there, you know.

Speaker 1 Remember Duke at Combine said that ideally we'll get this and Jamar Chase will be the highest paid non and we want this. And then somebody put a tweet out saying cap, Miles Garrett want it out.

Speaker 1 He didn't want it in there. And then money comes around, then it all gets sorted.
And Micah Parsons has always wanted to be a cowboy, even whenever he was a kid.

Speaker 4 That's what will happen here. He'll get 40.2 a year and reset the market again.

Speaker 1 And I think Jerry said something along the lines of, I don't care if I have to pay more. I just want to get it right.
Something along those lines.

Speaker 1 Jerry is one that normally has to pay more because he delays in delays in delays. And then inevitably, a deal gets done.
Did it with Dak? Did it with CD?

Speaker 1 I assume there's others just within the last year that has taken place. And Micah will probably be the next one on the board to get that done.

Speaker 1 With Miles Garrett signing the deal that he signed, obviously that affects a lot of people.

Speaker 1 Trey Hendrickson, TJ Watt, Micah Parsons, a lot of people that get to the quarterback for a living are now wondering, well,

Speaker 1 what's my number going to be? Have we heard anything about TJ Watt and the Pittsburgh Steelers?

Speaker 5 No,

Speaker 5 they talked about it. They were asked about it at the league meetings, and they said they want

Speaker 5 TJ to be a one-helmet player, and then it'll get done.

Speaker 6 And that feels feels like there's not really a super rush right now, but

Speaker 1 it'll get done. Yeah, and Trey Hendrickson, what's going on there, AJ? Do you know anything in Ohio? What's going on?

Speaker 9 I do not know. I definitely think TJ, they have to get that done.
But with Trey, I don't feel as confident that the Bengals are going to bring him back. They're going to find a way.
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 It got

Speaker 1 quiet. It's weird.

Speaker 3 We're in a quiet period. The last one though was after.

Speaker 9 I mean, Trey deserves a bunch of money. So, like,

Speaker 1 they want, like, they. For sure.

Speaker 9 Yeah, rightfully so. He, he wants a lot.

Speaker 1 30 years old, last big one. You know, last opportunity for a big contract, probably.
I mean, who knows? Maybe four years from now when he's 34, he's still going as strong as he is right now.

Speaker 1 But he's coming fresh off the Sack King title, 30 years old. And I think what he told us was, been delaying this now for multiple years to kind of hopefully get a deal done.

Speaker 1 Hopefully they're able to do that. You know, Cincinnati's paying folks.
They're figuring it out.

Speaker 1 Teddy Carrish, that's good, right? We like that. Yeah.
I love Ted. It's cool.
He's the man.

Speaker 1 He's hilarious.

Speaker 9 That clip of him at the parade deal.

Speaker 9 Were they trying to get him to cry about football or something? Emotional about the Reds opening day. Like, his answer.
Yeah, Ted is always awesome.

Speaker 1 Ted, you know, you come here a couple years ago. Now you're in a parade and, you know, you're giving back a lot to the city.
Do you get a little bit emotional whenever you think about it all?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I get emotional and pumped up. It's Reds when a big win.
Just like constant good vibes, guys. Yeah, great merch, too.

Speaker 3 The Scincy Red stuff that he had.

Speaker 1 The Sincy hat. Yeah, the hats.
There he is. Laser back.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 You're going to make it to a Reds game, AJ.

Speaker 1 You should take a swing.

Speaker 9 I sure hope so. Yes.

Speaker 1 I will. Here we go.
Got to see it. Ty Schmidt, fresh out of a dump.

Speaker 1 Make sure you hit close to where the black pad is at above the ball there. You're going to want to hit.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Because if you hit low, it's not going to go great.
You hit high, it's going to hurt.

Speaker 4 Still over under.

Speaker 1 Fresh out of a dump. I'm going to say.

Speaker 1 Pretty good. That was a great punch.
Whoa.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 4 833. Go work.

Speaker 9 Who got 921? That was Bruce. Bruce Lefty got that 921.

Speaker 1 Bruce Mayweather. I didn't say it.
Big body, Bruce.

Speaker 9 I would love to see Bruce throw a punch left-handed like that. I know he's got a, he's got a hand.

Speaker 1 They call him Frank Disney.

Speaker 18 He was righty. I do think I could get a left hook up there, too, though.

Speaker 1 Okay, we got time. We got time with this thing.
Let's not just wear it out day one. Yeah, exactly.
All right, let's get the hell out of here. It's been a hell of a day.

Speaker 7 Ty, how how was the dawn pretty good pal uh yeah it kind of sounded like i just lit off a a book of black cats

Speaker 1 sure

Speaker 1 and it seems quick but it was i got it it was pretty explosive yeah sure

Speaker 1 not m80s no black cats yeah certainly different hooser do

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 1 uh

Speaker 1 come on what happened to here you got through that yeah it was shiitake mushrooms this morning we're playing no games okay so you think it was a shiitake mushroom i didn't know if it was last night's operation.

Speaker 1 No, no, I'm not. No, certainly not last night.
You ate something that was didn't have anything last night.

Speaker 7 I'm kind of a one-meal a day guy now.

Speaker 1 Really? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, whenever you lose it that quickly, though, you might need to replenish it.

Speaker 7 Well, I should have known. I haven't had noodles in quite some time.
And, you know, some of those more exotic dishes, if you will.

Speaker 1 Yeah, noodles will do that.

Speaker 7 Sometimes, you know,

Speaker 7 a lot of sesame seeds in there.

Speaker 1 Spices.

Speaker 7 A lot of different spices. You know.

Speaker 7 I don't exactly know what sauce they have on there. Probably some peanut oil, some chili powder, that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 Cayenne Pepple.

Speaker 7 Cayenne Pepple, maybe. And then, of course, that.

Speaker 1 Have we got any Gator?

Speaker 1 I don't think so. You gotta

Speaker 4 full of shit.

Speaker 1 I knew he was. Oh, whoa.

Speaker 1 You better watch your fucking fucking Jeff Landry. Bruce is saying we did.
We did. Jeff Landry sent some Gator up there.
I'll take it back.

Speaker 4 I'll take it back.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we got Gator fillets in the freezer. Jeff Landry didn't do one of these.
We got Gator fillets? Yeah. Jeff Landry did one of these.

Speaker 1 yes you all love the gator boy i don't think you will boy i don't think so you don't know nothing about that black shut defense boy nebraska yeah that was an interesting moment that was interesting

Speaker 1 you probably don't hey that's

Speaker 1 with the accent

Speaker 1 all right uh what a movie that was a whole nother scene what did you say about hulk hogan what were you talking about him well hulk hogan

Speaker 1 there's another.

Speaker 1 Anytime people start doing this one here, you know,

Speaker 1 it's an interesting timing. Okay.
Whoa. You put yourself.

Speaker 1 I can't wait to have that Gaita. Can't wait.
Can't wait to have that Gaita. I had a couple of bison burgers

Speaker 1 the other day. Sure.

Speaker 5 That was pretty good. It's good lean meat.

Speaker 1 The beast, the beef, sorry, the Sunday beef roast. Over there in England was really good.
They had the carrots in there and shit, green peas. Shit, the roast beast.
The roast beast, yeah.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 I don't know if they have steak knives over there. Really?

Speaker 1 No, you have to use sorts or their teeth.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 whatever the case, the butter knife that I had

Speaker 1 was just ragdolling, this beef. I mean, it was boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

Speaker 1 It was like I was just rolling this thing back and forth. But once I ate it, it was so good.
You know,

Speaker 1 it was delicious. Shout out to England.
Shout out to Scotland. Shout out to the WWE.
That was a hell of a night. And shout out to all you boys.
All right, we'll be back tomorrow.

Speaker 1 What's happening tonight? A lot of big stuff tonight. Let's make sure we pay attention.
Got some basketball, some hockey.

Speaker 3 Oveshkin continuing his run to the gold record. They're playing the Bruins, so I would expect the Capitals to maybe Ovechkin put in two or three, perhaps.

Speaker 1 What's that all about? You just got shouted out by Luchic.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Luch, my guy, of course. But unfortunately, we're a long way from Milan Luchic, you know, kind of patrolling the ice, you know.

Speaker 3 Right now, we're in a officially, hey, we're on a next season. Let's go, Celtics.

Speaker 1 Well, aren't the Bruins doing good still? Are the Bruins good or no?

Speaker 3 I think they lost eight straight.

Speaker 1 They're sold.

Speaker 1 Oh, the Hockey Gods, because of the trade of Marshall.

Speaker 3 So after Marshi got traded, we go on, we beat the Panthers without Marshi.

Speaker 1 Hell of a win.

Speaker 3 He's not on either side. And then the Hockey Gods said, okay, now it's time to bury the hatchet.
Let's go, Celtics. NBA playoffs start next week.

Speaker 1 Congrats to you guys. Next week.
The Pacers are hot. Down 16 last night against the Kings, and Tyrese and the boys lead a massive comeback.

Speaker 4 NBA playoffs next week.

Speaker 3 I believe the last day of the regular season is Tuesday, and then the play-in game starts, oh, maybe Thursday or Friday.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Big night out next Wednesday.

Speaker 3 The Masters next weekend.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 We're here. Let's go.
We did it.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Glad we're talking baseball this week.
Right, boys?

Speaker 1 I think we're going to keep talking baseball. Don't you think? Yeah.
Showhead.

Speaker 4 I think we might.

Speaker 9 The Reds dominating.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Are they?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 9 You saw the clips from last night.

Speaker 1 Four hits, two home runs. That's right.

Speaker 9 Terry Francona at the helm. Are you kidding me? Teas away.

Speaker 3 I'm going to try. I'll tell you that much.
I will genuinely try. Red Sox are supposed to be good.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Where's my

Speaker 1 baseball?

Speaker 1 There you go. Or baseball highlights in there.

Speaker 3 Homers, homers, homers, homers.

Speaker 1 Torpedo bats. Easy.
Gold gloves. Torpedo bats might send you some other things.
Don't send me any penises. All right.

Speaker 1 We're back tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Great work. I just told it not to.
It'll listen. Remember? Conversation.
Yeah. Yep.

Speaker 9 No penises.

Speaker 1 It hurt me.

Speaker 1 All right. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice.
You might change your life. We're in this thing together.
Team on me. Team on three.

Speaker 1 One, two, three. Team.
Team. Goodbye.