PMS 2.0 1318 - Rule Changes From The League Meetings, Peter Schrager, "The Mayor" Sean Casey, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this New Rules Tuesday, April 1st, 2025, this program starts now.
Sports! Are happening all around us and obviously we're incredibly lucky to get a chance to chat about it every single day. Last night I was in London, what a wonderful town actually, had a blast.
Shout out to Wade Barrett being an incredibly hospitable host. And all the points that we had slammed around the Thames River and such.
It was a great roll. It was a great atmosphere.
It was a great crowd. Then I got a chance to fly back here to Indianapolis, Indiana.
And when I woke up this morning, holy hell, we're in a new world. There's a bunch of new rules happening in the NFL down at the league meetings happening down in Florida where the weather looks spectacular.
The hands have been shaken. And there's been one particular rule that has been talked about all week, maybe all season, where one team is better than everybody else at.
One team might be tougher than everybody else. One team needs to be punished and no longer allowed to do the tush push.
Well, they went ahead and put a pin in that. They're going to circle back in May.
Allegedly, it was a split decision, a split room, 16 for the band, 16 against the band. They will further discuss it in May, they will say.
Now, if they're doing that, people around the internet, and listen, hey, the internet, especially today. Let's keep our head on a swivel.
April 1 is a it's a wild place especially the AI nowadays don't be getting fooled don't be thinking there's a palm tree extra point upright for FAU it looked neat but there's going to be a lot of that. But what everybody...
I mean... I put this tweet up, oh, no.
Just to out myself as somebody who looked at this and thought to myself, this is awesome. And then, you know, Connor looks over at me and goes, are we sure this is real on April 1st? And then that's when you see the, oh, no.
Oh for this i hope that coastal carolina isn't doing an april fools because i i learned about this yesterday yeah there's no did they do a pre no way ladies and gentlemen coast carolina football team announced this just yesterday on the internet don't know how this works what's up boss hey how's it going good what's the damage free free well what about for this free as well free all the free you want some nachos yeah free too all free all free free can i get 50 of these yeah free free what about a drink all of it free free have two drinks drinks and a hot dog yeah hot dogs free all free there you go free free sweet that's right till nation this fall in brooks stadium every fan every game always free free concessions popcorn nachos hot dog fountain drinks and water for every fan this fall come out to brooks stadium get your tickets now, and cheer on the shots.

Go shots.

Hey, Bob, I don't know who you are,

but you're going to see a visit from us.

I mean, we're going to test this thing.

There has to be some sort of limit.

Every homeless guy in the country.

I mean, it's going to be tough to keep the homeless out of there.

Obviously, getting a free meal and free drink for not only yourself,

but maybe the next week could be an opportunity for some to take advantage of down there.

But nonetheless, I thought this, then I thought the palm trees.

I'm like, college ball is becoming minor league baseball. I love what we're doing.
I don't know how that's going to work out for them. I honestly, I genuinely, in a time where everybody's trying to get money for the NIL stuff and trying to figure it all out, they're like, let's go the opposite direction.
Let's give away everything. And if they fill that place up, they're thinking merch, maybe there'll be purchases and ticket sales, obviously to go up there has to be a limit one drink one food item i don't know because i saw that guy that guy had two drinks a hot dog nachos and everything else on there so i palm tree's not real we believe that was that was in march right for week one at least okay so anyways that happening.
Roger Goodell, allegedly, if something gets tabled for another meeting, it is something that he is looking to potentially further explore, which means, hey, we are going to have to figure this thing out. And maybe it does just go down to one person's allowed to push in May, or maybe it just remains the same.
And if it does, the Philadelphia Eagles will continue to take a victory lap because not only are they the ones that are going to be the loudest about this because they've had the most success, they won a Super Bowl with this play being a massive piece of their team. Their fans are loud.
The social media, I don't know if you saw, the Philadelphia Eagles just posted on their Twitter a peach with a push on it and just say, hey, tush push is ours. It survives another day.
Yep, yep there it is but there's been a lot of rules

that have changed we'll chit chat about that there's a lot going on in the sport of baseball which i did not expect us to chit chat about as much as we have thus far hockey's happening obviously records are on the line and college basketball in the middle of its biggest time today should be a fantastic day peter schrager will be joining us the newest member of the ESPN team. He was formerly

at NFL Network and at Fox.

Now he will be joining ESPN

as an ESPN team. He was formerly at NFL Network and at Fox.
Now he will be joining ESPN as an ESPN NFL representative. Schrager, old friend of ours, obviously an Emmy Award winner.
Cannot wait to see him back, or I don't know if he's ever been, with ESPN. I don't think so.
And we can't wait to chat with him. Talks table's at Boston Corner, at Ty Schmidt.
One half of the hammer.

Time!

Cowboys AP Tone is here.

Tone, I see you wearing this Steelers hoodie,

which is perfect for nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is here looking very cool.

Pittsburgh Steelers, Aaron Rodgers, DK Metcalf playing catch.

I've seen a lot of conversation about that still happening.

What do you think the final outcome is?

Opening day of the NFL season, who's the quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers? Aaron Rodgers. Oh.
Yeah, for sure. No question about it.
But yeah, I think Aaron Rodgers. I mean, just looking at it, I don't see, I know people are still talking Vikings and hanging out out there.
I don't see that happening. I see Aaron Rodgers being the starting quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Hopefully that announcement doesn't come today, but it is April Fool's. But I think it is coming at some point before the draft.
That's just me. I'm sure most people probably feel like that because I don't think we, none of us up here think Eric's going to retire.
Yeah. Well, especially after this workout at UCLA.
Now, Amen Culture and Ari Pulley NFL got this video in the photos. He's wearing all black.
Yeah, you know. Pittsburgh Steelers, obviously, black and gold team.
Throwing to DK Metcalf. Doesn't seem to be throwing to anybody else.
Seem to be in rhythm. This obviously comes after a meeting that he took in Pittsburgh.
AP Tone, whenever you see the photos and you see the video, do you start fantasizing? because I saw people even analyzing Aaron Rodgers's hand size on the internet I saw a tweet that goes we go from Kenny Pickett's hand size to Aaron Rodgers hand size on the football it feels like everything that comes out gets Steelers fans either more excited or make a decision already we're sick of waiting on this guy yeah it's a little bit of both this actually kind of pissed me off quite a bit. What? Tony.
We're being honest. That's exactly it.
That makes sense. What are we doing? Okay, you're out here throwing with DK, parading around.
Sign on the dotted line already. Parading? Parading around.
He didn't work out. He wanted to see if DK could catch before he wanted to join the Steelers or what the situation here is.
If he doesn't sign with this point, oh boy. But no.
Oh boy, what? Oh boy, what? What was this for then? What was it? Just to piss everybody off. We were both in Los Angeles.
Just to get your name in the lights. What? You don't think maybe they just so happened to be in Los Angeles and amen culture was right around the corner, and they said, let's go get a workout, and why not? There's a chance.
Maybe we could be teammates. A lot of people talk about it.
Everybody's talking about it. Look how happy they are.
Big smiles. Yeah.
So they should make it official and be teammates. But no, but then I thought, you know, this is where Tom was working out before he went to Tampa and won the Super Bowl.
And I see Aaron, yeah, and I see him throwing a decan,, and I picture him in the jerseys. I see eight throwing to four, okay? Many, many touchdowns.
I assume we'd be eight. Why not? How'd you feel about the backwards hat? I love the backwards hat.
Love it. Love it.
That's a great vibe. That's a huge house, baby.
That's just how it's happening. Watching that thing come out, too, still spinning it, you know, just like at the end of the year.
It is – I thought there would be more wide receivers, you know? Yeah, that's GP. Rap sheet.
I don't know if he's just setting up full off-season workouts for the Pittsburgh Steelers, but I thought there would be more of a collection of wide receivers. I thought DK Metcalf would be there, but also a two or a three from another team would also be working out, and we're all making a big deal out of it just being DK Metcalf and Aaron Rodgers.
Then then the photos come out and it's like amen cultures out there yep okay aaron's out there and dk metcalf do we know who set it up was it was it aaron was it amen cultures there dk so just hit up do they have the same representation or what's the i don't know if it was for sure to be honest oh uh i don't know if anybody does but you know your quarterback the quarterbacks normally the ones that organize it i organize it. Aaron called to the moon, and the moon answered, and the moon called to DK.
I mean, if I'm George Pickens, I'm raising hell in Pittsburgh. He might have been invited.
He might have been down in Florida. If George got invited, he would have been there.
So if I'm GP, I'm saying, you know what, Aaron? Go to hell. I'm shipping somewhere else, brother.
Trade me right now. And guess what? I'm going to make a fuss about it.
I'm going to make a big old fuss about it. People are wondering if we are going to be able to coexist.
Hey, guess what? I can coexist with DK. I can't coexist with this hippie because he can't even send me a text or a call to the moon for me.
And plus, at the end of the day, look at Aaron's arms. The guy's kind of jacked up.
Has he been lifting a little bit more? Has he been working out? Maybe got a new, better trainer, perhaps? Maybe he's kind of on the up and up when it comes to his physique because, good Lord, the man looks jacked. If I'm pissed for him.
He might be taking a different strategy on the body. I don't know.
Look at the veins in his arms, the forearms. I mean, this does look like a match pain in heaven.
Okay, maybe, potentially. But the more I see of it, I'm like, oh, this is definitely...
So he went into the Pittsburgh Steelers UPMC practice facility. I wonder if he had a meal there, too, just to pull out.
Maybe. First time ever being a free agent.
First time ever getting a chance to learn about what I'm going to potentially sign up for allegedly the money's been figured out and it is all good now it's just what does he want to do and watching that video it's like i don't think he's retiring no yeah your backwards hat in the middle of a workout exactly i don't think you're retiring at that point and he's moving smooth remember end of the season a little bit more healthy on that uh ach. I think they looked a lot different.
Just like we

all kind of assumed, even though it was always dangling

there, there's no way he's going out

like that with the Jets. There's no

way that's going to happen. Seems to be a

formality here happening inevitably, but what if

it doesn't? Don't say,

better not be. He could have called Justin

Jefferson. He did.
He called DK Metcalf.

Just saying.

Good point.

What are the Vikings saying? There's a lot of things being said

down at the owners meetings down in Florida. A lot

I'll see you next time. Jefferson, he didn't.
He called D.K. McCuff.
Just saying. Good point.
What are the Vikings saying? There's a lot of things being said down at the owners' meetings down in Florida. A lot of chitter-chatter.
A lot of hanging out. Jay Glazer was with every head coach.
Smoking cigars. Jay Glazer football.
That is Jay Glazer football. I wonder what Jay was bringing the boys around for.
If you look to Jay Glazer's video that he posted on social, right next to him, Dan Quint and obviously you got Shanahan, McDaniel, KOC. Those are the boys, the McVay boys.
Then you kind of go around, scatter through, I think maybe some newer coaches further away from Jay Glazer. The closer you are to Jay Glazer, obviously the better you are.
Then Andy Reid's right next to him. And I do want, it's a pretty cool day, Jay Glazer says, I could fathom, I could imagine.
I do wonder what the meeting of the minds is happening here at owner's meetings, because just the combine, obviously, they're watching and scouting and doing that. But it's the conversations that are happening off hours that are kind of getting everything done here at the combine, free agency and stuff.
I wonder how many off-hour conversations are taking place down there amongst the coaches about like, hey, we need to try to work on this together. To better the league, we need to do this to do this or hey who can hammer the most amount of beers here i like to get a good camaraderie setting and i'm happy jay glazer seemingly the guy bringing them together yeah he's obviously holding the court that's glazer football interested to see what what he breaks um at some point but these are you know a lot of conversations have we talk about it always being a fraternity amongst players same way with coaches i'm sure this is when some of the conversations may happen about maybe hey i just got a free agent from your team maybe some more conversations about the quarterback or receiver how he's going to be in a locker room or in a community other coaches other people in their new spots putting ross uh their coaching staffs together so uh all these kind of conversations are happening obviously these rules that that have been voted upon that will be't be passed, will be tabled.
So all these things are happening. But I'm excited to see what Glaze comes out with pretty soon here.
On that note, a man who's been in that circle before. Guy's been in every circle before.
I believe if we, if I recall the story correctly, he like slept on people's couches down in the Senior Bowl whenever he was getting in. Went to school down in Georgia.
Very, very... Emory.
Emory. I think so.
I think it's like... Yeah.
Very prestigious. Tough to get into.
I think it's very... Selective.
Very, very... You need to know the right people.
Yeah, I don't think it's just an easy... I don't think I'm anywhere near getting in there or whatever.

Anyways, chose to take

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ESPN, an absolute legend. Ladies and gentlemen, in front of the program, Peter Schrager.
What up, Schrager? Dude, what an awesome intro. I cannot believe you're on air and fine after being in London like last night where I was watching you.
You're incredible, dude. I love it.
No, that's you, Schrager. And to be quite transparent, for those that have the ability, and if there's a direct flight, London at like a nighttime flight, you land in the morning, like 7.30, 8 a.m., have a day.
Then whenever you fly, if you can fly back at night, you land 5 a.m., 6 a.m. in the morning.
So you're in there. I think if you stay for a few days and you get on to their time, I think you're in trouble.
But I think if you just go in, stick and move, because I did it with Scotland last week. I had to get back because Mr.
LeBron Drames was going to stop by the Thunderdome. So that's been actually fun to get over there.
I assume you've traveled to Europe numerous times. I have had a blast.
It was very, very nice over there. Very nice.
It's amazing. And I don't know how the wrestling fans are, but we go for the NFL games and they just want sports and they want the NFL.
And I was watching you on Raw and it's the same exact thing for the wrestling, obviously. And the juice is a little different.
They're not, it's not like they're not spoiled or anything or that the American sports fans are spoiled, but they're so gracious and so happy that you're bringing your product to them. And it's like, oh, come on, this is a dream for us too.
It's truly awesome. And I thought you were amazing on it.
Thank you. Well, they're born and raised in the hooligan atmosphere too.
You know, like soccer games, they're singing through the game. There's a lot of action, even though there's not a lot of goals being scored the fans i don't want to say have to generate the juice but they kind of do and they carry that into everything it's almost like the pacific northwest you know like the pacific northwest they're going to be good fans bingo they'll show up for that like yeah that is uh anyways welcome to espn we're pumped that you're here we just showed uh that video of jay glazer kind of sitting down chit-chatting and mingling down at the owners meetings we assume you've been before but let's talk about how some of these rules get passed that are currently happening so for instance the tush push it has been tabled for May has been tabled for May what does that mean does that mean uh commissioner or some people want to kind of rally and find some votes what is normally happening behind the scenes Shregs? I've been doing this for a long time as far as like the competition committee goes.
And usually you'll have a rule proposed and maybe there'll be two or three people who are like, yes, let's do it. This tush push took on a whole different life of its own, almost like it was a election of some sort and that there were people lobbying other people for votes.
It's split 16 to 16, meaning it's a dead split as to who wants to get rid of it and who wants to keep it. Now, you would need to get eight more votes to get rid of it.
The league, though, you'd think that the league is one of the main sources of like, hey, we don't have any injury data to push that it has to be removed. Like if this was a bunch of injuries and guys were getting concussed and we have data, hard empirical evidence that there are needs being shattered because of this thing.
Well, then I promise you the league would be pushing that direction. They don't have that data.
There is no data around it. What's interesting is you've got some big personalities who are lobbying to see some changes and it's a different you know breed of coaches it's mcveigh it's lafleur raheem morris these guys and i talked to like this push push it's gross it's crap like it's not it's not yeah it's a scrum shrags you know it's an ode to the past while still paying tribute to today the modern athlete takes on old school sport and to your point whenever philly lines up and does it it's like okay they're gonna pick up two to four yards and uh they're gonna get a first down so they're playing like cfl football it is first and nine for them and they have three downs basically to get to that and i think that's kind of their big point right is if it was so easy everybody would do it do we think more people now if this thing remains will start to try to implement it or how do you see it kind of going if the rule doesn't change going forward that's an age-old debate jeff stoutman and the boys in philly have mastered this thing and teams have tried and they have not succeeded and one of the interesting people who's really against it is sean mcdermott who's on the who's on the committee and of course sean mcdermott ran several different quarterback sneaks in a big afc championship game that got stuffed uh you know one yard short and a lot of people are saying hey just because you can't do it don't don't get rid of it and McDermott's point is, no, that's an injury waiting to happen.
And this thing is hideous. Seeing Frankie Louvoo jump over the line of scrimmage four times and having a ref come out and be like, look, I'm just going to give him a touchdown.
That's not fun. That's not great.
But if you're an Eagles fan, you're like, come and stop us. Figure it out.
It's a whole thing about machismo and bravado. And it becomes this thing like testosterone and like you know we're the we're the bullies in town i almost think it's kind of cool if they get rid of it and the eagles can look at each other and be like we're that good at this if they had to ban it from the league yeah the philadelphia eagles doing this and being the team um is so perfect for their city i mean it's so perfect sorry we're too tough okay sorry you Johns aren't gritty enough to be able to stop us.
It's like, what a perfect city. Perfect coach, too.
Sirianni, dogs. We want dogs.
Sorry, our dogs are hungrier than your dogs. You know, O-line, D-line, Howie, that's all he cares about.
It is such a perfect situation. And that's also my favorite aspect of this.
Howie obviously didn't play college or professional football. Howie's, you know, this brilliant mind.
But, like, I'm talking to Howie about, like, he's got his chest out a little bit. Like, oh, poor babies.
Like, you guys can't stop it. Like, there's a little bit of that.
And that bleeds throughout the entire city, and it goes right through to Miles Teller and Bradley Cooper and the fans that you see, like, were just tougher

than you. Like, bring it.
And, you know, you see these coaches and McVay is obviously, you know,

you saw him in Whitworth in the gym. Like, he's no softie, but he's like, it's just not good

football. It's gross.
Like, it's a rugby play. I don't know.
That's not what we want to encourage,

but it's now split. And as far as whether it gets changed, I don't think the NFL on this one has a

strong point of view. It's going to be how hard do these people want to lobby to get the eight votes

Thank you. It's now split.
And as far as whether it gets changed, I don't think the NFL in this one has a strong point of view. It's going to be how hard do these people want to lobby to get the eight votes.
And then it becomes like any election where, like, are you going to go campaign? Like, is McVeigh going to spend May in the next April and May, like, calling other coaches who are neutral and being like, I really think, I don't know if he's that passionate about it. Okay, so let's roll through the rules that did pass here quickly.
Kick will now go to the 35 after a touchback which is good kickers also are allowed to bring their own balls into the games which is awesome look for punters to hit massive balls like this is going to benefit the punters greatly and obviously kickers as well but every time a punter goes on the field if he's going to have have a broken-in ball, there's a chance we see some 5'8", 5'9", hang time, maybe even like a 6'0", hang time in the game. You guys were putting brand-new balls before? No, so it wasn't brand-new balls.
It was like 30 minutes of broken-in before the game. One equipment manager from each team was deemed the person to break in the balls, and then an official would come watch.
They had to brush a towel in a squirt water bottle. And they had 30 minutes under supervision to break in the balls.
Highly anxiety riddled for the equipment managers who have a lot of other shit to deal with right before the game. And then our guy would come out.
His name was Frog. He'd be dripping in sweat.
He'd be like, I got some good ones for you guys today. And we'd say, thank you, Frog.
And then Frog would have a great Christmas, you know, because that is a big deal. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We take care of Frog, obviously. Frog, good man, good lad.
Also worked his ass off in there for 30 minutes every single week. There's some teams that have shitty ones.
Back in the day, it was brand new balls. So there's always been a lot of K-ball conversation.
Now they're going to be able to bring their own balls to the games. Look for punters to hit gigantic balls.
You know who's big on like an advocate for special teams is Darren Rizzi and he's got a big voice in the competition committee. So Rizzi, of course, the Riz was obviously the interim coach of the Saints, but was instrumental in changing the dynamic kickoff.
But when you talk about the competition committee and the different voices who matter, obviously like, you know, Tomlin's been there forever and, and there's voices like McVay, who's big on that and McDermott, but like a voice like Darren Rizzi, who's been doing the special team stuff, who's now the Bronco special teams coordinator. He's almost the voice of like, Hey, here's what the punters and kickers need.
And it's kind of cool to have that voice also, you know, vocalizing in those rooms. Yeah.
I don't want to say that coach Riz is the one texting me, but I'll just say my source says that used to be an interim head coach and is now on special teams sent a text, we fucking did it. It passed.
Touchback 35. That was the Texas Warriors.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he's like jacked, though.
They're like all jacked about it. So obviously...
You would love this crew of like the Parcells guys, and it's like Joe Vitt and Sean Payton and Riz, and they're just like the last bastion of the old school. This is how it should be.
And Baron Rizzi is definitely carrying that torch from the special team side. Okay, so new ball, touchbacks go to 35.
We kind of expected that. Hopefully that'll be good for the landing zone and more returns.
They also were able to add another returner into the back, into the middle area, which is good. Replay assist.
Let's talk about this, Shregs. This was kind of happening last year at the end of the year, I think, without us kind of knowing it.
They were kind of growing it, expanding it, and I think it was good for the game. They saw the same thing.
What does this mean, you think, from your eyes, and what does the future mean in your eyes with this rule change, Shregs? Well, I think Kevin's on it here and some context on this. They're not going to have New York throw a flag.
Like New York can't say, actually that was pass interference or actually that was defensive holding. New York can't do that.
But if a flag is thrown and it's egregious, New York City can come and pipe into the referees and be like, pick that flag up. Like that's not the call.
So that's a change. It's progress.
I don't think we're ever going to go back and do it where we did the pass interference reviews, which we had a couple of years back, which was a nightmare and would take 15 minutes and stop a game. And then the refs would always side with their original call anyway.
But this is one where there can be an impartial party up in New York saying, hey, actually that one wasn't. You can pick up the flag, but they cannot demand a flag be flag be thrown after the fact yeah i think that's a smart move and uh as long as they're quick and efficient and the right people are looking at the uh xbox or whatever they're running it with and sending it down there to your point is good the overtime stuff i think that pass they're gonna have the same as you get a chance to answer but it is in a 10 minute periodminute period as opposed to in the playoffs.
It's never-ending until somebody wins the game. And I think they'll consider it a successful league meeting down there.
Way to go, boys. All right.
Go ahead. Real quick, that Glazer video that you showed, so that's like Jay's Christmas.
And that is like 20 years in the making, and it started with him and Tomlin getting drinks and then it expanded. And it's the Tuesday after the coaches in the NFC have their breakfast.
So everyone's kind of done. And Jay gets all the head coaches together.
And having been at that table with him, Jay was cool enough to invite me several times at these league meetings. It's hilarious.
And they're not talking about free agents. They are getting bombed right now because they've been sitting at conference for the last 48 hours listening to presentations and dark lighting and dealing with their kids and their wives who are all there.
And this is like their one time away. So Brian Dable's got his legs crossed.
The cigar will be coming out shortly. And Andy Reid is hanging.
He's not a drinker, but he'll hang and have a good time too. Yeah, the Mormon will toss down a diet kill.
Congrats to the boys. Congrats to the boys.
You earned it out there. All right, Shrags, we got some questions about other stuff that we know that you will know the answer to.
Obviously, one of the greatest mock drafts in the history of mock drafts. D-Botch has a question for you, pal.
Absolutely. On that mock drafting note, Hazlman has basically come out and said, look, took a big swing and a miss on Deshaun.
That lies on me. Take full accountability.
But now sitting there at number two, the tea leaves are kind of saying momentum is going towards Abdul Carter going and pairing up with Miles Garrett in Cleveland. What's your thoughts and feelings on what Cleveland's going to do with that number two pick as it stands right now? Well, they're not there yet.
Here's the key thing. I think everyone doing mock drafts, and I respect it it i like to wait until about two weeks beforehand when the pro days are done you know shador sanders hasn't had his pro day yet it's this week it's april 4th and he hasn't had any private workouts with teams so you're talking about if this guy's gonna be my second overall pick he didn't throw at the combine we might have met with him for 15 minutes but i got to get my hands on him i gotta a see him at his, and then B, I've got to bring him into our building and see how he interacts and how it goes.
You look at Cleveland's quarterback situation. Finally, they're ripping the bandaid off.
They're going to pay Deshaun Watson. He's going to get paid, but Kenny Pickett's the quarterback for now.
There's a lot of smoke around them making a play for Cousins. Raheem Morris doubled down this morning saying, you know, we're happy with Cousins being a backup.
Keep an eye on that. But I wouldn't open any doors and say that, hey, just because, you know, they're done with Watson, this means it's Shador Sanders.
You're right, D-Butt, that it sounds like Abdul Carter. You put him and Miles Garrett together.
You have Kenny Pickett. And if Kirk Cousins comes to be great, but there's also some other quarterbacks that they can look at later on, and that might be Tyler Shuck.
That might be Jackson Dart, Quinn Ewers. No one feels like they are so desperate right now to get Shador Sanders, but if he blows them away, that's an option they can do.
They leave the door open, they can do so. Yeah, Will Howard as well, Shredg, as you're doing.
Got it back home. I was going to say to you, I got to tell you, when you guys were at Ohio State, I forget, it was probably before the playoff game.
It was freezing cold. You guys were just there and I was working for NFL Network and Fox and it was like a loosey-goosey day you guys had on there and my wife and I are watching and I'm like, I really appreciate these guys.
I got to join this crowd. You guys were, it was the day you were messing with Zaire Franklin and I'm like, oh, I like it.
It's so fun. It was good.
But I'm like, the fact that you have this ability to go with your boys a day before a college football playoff game, sit in the cold, laugh your asses off. It's great content, and I so appreciate even being on the show now because I wasn't able to this past season.
The sky's the limits now, and you guys do such a great job. We're lucky to have you back.
Lucy Goose is not always good. It's what we have learned, but we're trying to get better every day.
We're trying our best to get better to be an additive to society. But I will say those sideline passes games are the most absurd things of all time.
And that's where we saw C that's where we saw, well, I mean, it was just like,

we saw CJ Stroud

and we're not going to act like

we were the only people that saw it.

But at that time,

CJ Stroud was not being talked about

as being the guy.

Like, this is not the guy.

No, he threw that pass against Georgia,

80 yards,

and everyone's like,

wait a second.

No, not even that.

He jogged out in warm-ups

when we were there

and it's like,

this dude's big,

very, very big.

And it's,

I think it's the moxie. What I want to see is like how the teammates feel about because the teammates always know like hey is this a good teammate or not the teammates will tell you whether or not this is a guy in with will howard it was like after that michigan loss with how much money is being paid to that roster which how many with how many expectations there were on this particular team there could jeremiah sm you know, best player in football.
There could have been a lot of people that turned on this guy, Will, especially with what happened at the end of the Oregon game earlier in the year whenever, you know, he ran and the clock ran out and everybody was like, this is the dumbest guy of all time. A lot of those teammates could have said, it's this guy's fault that we're losing this season and this might be our final season or we're going all in and instead he had a relationship with all of his teammates he had uh handshakes with all of

his teammates it was like they loved him and then what we watch him do i mean that was what negative 10 degrees or whatever it was in that particular time there what we watched him do up close and personal those two balls we're literally standing right there it's like this guy's a baller like i think it's crazy isn't it so like you have the experience with game day and then of course when you guys are doing those simulcasts you get to be there but for years i was a sideline reporter and what you see on the sidelines is i get two hits a game and i'm like this guy's ankles hurt and this coach yelled at this player but what you don't get is that i'm there three hours before a kickoff talking to the coaches i'm there three hours before aoff watching how the quarterback interacts. And for these draft pundits, a lot of them see stats.
They see combine, but the coaches don't look at it necessarily that way. The coaches say, oh, well, I actually have a scout who was at the game when Oregon state played against, you know, Stanford two years ago.
And this guy in pregame did something. That's why it's the total package.
You can't just do evaluations based on film and by combine. There's all the intangible stuff.
And I think you guys being on site, as I like to call it, like to touch the grass a little bit, get in there, see it. You can kind of navigate.
And you'll know which guys are the goobers, too. Like, you can see that also.
Like, oh, that guy stinks. Like my team and the teams know that as well yeah i had a chance to do that thursday night football uh remy operation with espn four or five years ago six or whatever it was six years ago maybe seven twenty nineteen twenty nine years so six years ago molly mcgrath was the sideline reporter you know and southern reporters like to your point only see them like two.
You hear them drop in and everything. But the amount of, like, info that she was sending up to the booth, like, at all times, it was like, oh, you're – the sideline reporters are, like, they're your eyes.
Like, they're literally the eyes down on the sideline. Like, hey, just a heads up, blah, blah, blah just happened.
And it's, like, all of a sudden that becomes, like, ah, need a camera on this, need to do this. It's, like – and you're really in it.
Like, you're in the middle. Coach is talking shit to you.
Yes. Doing a touchdown.
Yeah, exactly. Coach Fry.
I did a Bill's Dolphins game a couple years ago, Saturday night game. It was cold.
Josh Allen came back and, like, beat two up. But I got, like, a snowball thrown at me in Buffalo.
And then, like, everyone was, was like looking at me. I'm like, let's go.

I'm on the field.

Let's roll.

Let's go.

Let's do it.

And you're feeling it.

You're actually in the action.

And to that Buffalo fan who threw a snowball at me, I'm on ESPN now.

Okay?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Great throw.

Great throw.

You had to be pretty far away to hit me.

But with that being said, I'm an Emmy award winning ho.

Hell yeah.

Aren't you, Shrags?

Emmy award winner, brother. And hopefully there's more where that came from.
All right, we got some more questions, obviously, about everything happening around the NFL world. Con man's got one for you.
Yeah, Shraig. Jed York came out and basically said, hey, mid-season 2024, we all decided, you know, we're going to give Brock Purdy a few more shekels after underpaying him for so long.
And now it feels like his contract is looming before the start of next year. Are you hearing anything as far as numbers go? Do you think he'll be a 50-plus million year or million dollars per year guy? Or do you think he might be in the 40s range so that Sam Frank can continue to build around him and have one of the best rosters in football? It's really interesting because the gravy train was going there for a while, and they, against maybe better judgment in their hearts, were like, all right, we'll pay Debo this number.
We'll pay Brandon Ayut this number. We're all in, and this is the year we're going to be all in.
The window is now, and we got Brock on this rookie quarterback, seventh-round pick salary, and then it all came undone. Someone in the league made a comparison to what's going on in the u.s government right now and it's like all right we gotta just stop the bleeding and we're gonna analyze everything and i'm like oh they're ai they're taking over to mexico got it got it got it okay got it did purdy miss the boat on when the niners were wheeling and dealing or are they all of their money, or shekels as you call it, to give it to him? I don't see Brock Purdy making north of $55 million.
I don't see Brock Purdy being one of the top highest paid quarterbacks. It's going to be a discussion with his agent, him, and what does he want, what does he need, and you never want to take a hometown discount, but you also realize that, you know, your Brock Purdy is 50 million.
The right number is 48, not the right number is 45. The right number can 40 be the right number.
So curious to see where it goes out here, but obviously they want to sign Brock Purdy. That's been John Lynch's stance forever.
Kyle strong and his agent met with the team at the combine. Like these are open conversations, but I don't think this is the Justin Herbert deal or the Trevor Lawrence deal, or it's well, every other young quarterback got paid.
We got to pay him the Niners. It's almost like the buck stops here.
Let's be fiscally smart right now because we might've made some errors in the past. I know, uh, you want 55, but quick question.
55, not bad. 48, same, right? Basically How about 44 then? 44 and 48 basically 48 basically same we get you right there 40 think about what we can do okay with that extra 15 the way you wield and dealed and negotiated right there is exactly the sound a team would have for a player for Brock Purdy it is an interesting situation because as Connor would say the shekels havekels have been pretty low because he was the last pick of the draft.
So he has had a very low NFL contract. And, you know, you want to talk about Doge in the government.
San Francisco's government takes a good amount of, as Connor would say, shekels out of the contract to, you know, give back to the city and to the state and to the country, right? That's where it all goes. And then, you know, that has been a pretty big amount.
So if you go from making the least possible, basically, for a game. Literally the least possible that you could as a draft pick.
The least possible. As a starting quarterback, by far, but just as a player that is drafted as a whole.
So would a $45 million a year be welcomed because it was like, I was just making $900,000 last year. So is that the sell? Yeah.
Every ex-player and every NFLPA representative and every agent is like, Brock, don't you even think about something. You burned it.
Okay. That is what they're going to be saying.
He's in a bad position leverage-wise, not because of his draft position, but because they still own his rights for what, the next three years, if they want to? If they want to play hard. Yeah, if they want to play hard.
It's a franchise. Franchise a couple times and still wait another year to pay him.
So he is in a bad situation there. But you don't take less than 50.
You know, he deserves, you know, especially with the salary cap going up, at least what Trevor Lawrence is getting. Jordan Love, what has he proved in comparison to what Brock Purdy has done in the league so far.
So I think Brock, you know, he deserves around that 55 at least. Josh Allen not breaking that 55 mark, not getting up to deck.
I think that kind of suppressed the market a little bit for the quarterback. Salary cap jumping up, though.
Brock Purdy deserves 55. But we'll see how it plays out with the leverage that Niners have.
Good luck, Purdy. Good luck, Purdy.
And good luck to the Niners. I mean, I saw Lynch hand over a lighter for a cigar diner with Jay Glazer.
Was it a cigar? They smoking weed, Don? I don't know. I don't know.
I've seen it. I look around that circle.
I see a couple of Sigs guys in there. I got medical.
Oh, you're seeing some Sigs diner? Braves was there? What's the time people are packing Sigs diner at the meeting? Braves was in that circle, but I saw Liam Cohn, and I know one when I see one, and I know he's a cigarette guy. At what time do you think Braves is double cigarettes, two Sigs, four patches? 3.30.
It's 12.37 Eastern right now. Probably an hour ago.
Started an hour ago. You're right.
I guess there was a good brunch moment. Probably when someone came up and was like, we need you to ban the Tush Push mic.
And he was like, all right, I'm sick of this shit. What did he say, actually? We're not going to let Lamar Jackson run anymore? What? Just because nobody can stop it, we're going to just start banning stuff? No.
Think about the conversation in that room about the Tush Push mic from the meathead football guys. Braymel, for instance, who might have had cigarettes in his mouth.
Not just unlit cigs. Both of them lit.
There's a chance add a cigar in the middle. There's a chance he's three piece in that thing.
Yeah, triple stack. And they say, we're not playing football anymore? And then you guys have somebody on the same table, you've got Mike McDaniel and sunglasses and a Gucci belt

being like...

Actually, if you think about it...

I assume that's what that is

afterwards that Glaze is setting up.

He's going to get everyone

and get three drinks in him, and then he's going to be like,

Alright boys, 16 on 16. Non-tush-push, tush-push.
You guys are going to beat everyone and get three drinks in them, and then he's going to be like, alright boys, 16 on 16.

Non-tush-push, tush-push.

You guys are going to beat the fucking shit out of each other,

and whoever wins, that's what we're going to

vote on.

He's like, I got Guy Fieri here,

Stallone is here, we got

Kurt Angle, and we got

Chuck Liddell.

They're all going to play the role in a vote too.

Jay, these are all compliments

because this could be real like what we are saying right now could be real also in my algo uh more than i would you know every once in a while i gotta have a nice chat with the algo you gotta go to the search uh bar and like be like hey don't do it no you gotta you gotta have a good conversation with your algorithm yeah those group mma fights have been showing up a little bit more.

So awesome.

What?

Have you seen this?

I have not.

Oh, great.

I can not. Oh.
Group MMA. It's in there now.
It's great. Six on six.
In a cage. In a cage.
In a cage. Yeah.
They're in a cage. And then once one's out, it's now six on five.
Yeah. And then four on one.
Yeah. You see some of these.
You see some of these. What country? I'd assume it's Russia.
Yeah, not here. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
It's out of the Atlantic. Eastern.
Eastern block. Yeah.
Have you seen the one where they're actually using a weapon? Swords? Yeah, the ones with old times. Yeah, they're like, yeah, look that one up.
I need this. Shields.
The whole thing. Armor.
They're not speaking our language language and I'm not sure we would be welcomed at the event, but it does seem like something that would be electrifying. Maybe Jay is setting it up tonight.
16 on 16. Put the cage up around the pool.
Maybe it is just one big pool basketball game. Dan Quinn with that backwards.
MCDC. Nerd.
Drowning Mike McDaniel. Let's get back.
None of this is going to happen. Maybe.
Zach Taylor from deep. Just money.
Zach Taylor sitting on the side of the pool. Getting a pass.
Gotta make that. You missed your one opportunity there.
You're getting done. Andy Reid down low getting bored.
Oh my god. With a t-shirt on it.

His t-shirt just says Big Walrus.

Walrus! Walrus!

Kick it! Kick it! So many opportunities.

Hey Jay, make it happen down here.

It's on you Jay Glazer.

You either do it or you hate football

Glazer. Hope they're having a good time.

Tone has a question for you Shregs. Yeah Shregs,

you brought up Kirk Cousins

maybe tied to the Browns. You know he has a pass

with Stefanski. You said Rahim Morris kind of

put some chillers on that. But Arthur Blanks

Thank you. has a question for you, Shregs.
Yeah, Shregs, you brought up Kirk Cousins, maybe tied to the Browns. He has a pass with Stefanski.
You said Raheem Morris kind of put some chillers on that, but Arthur Blank said that he sat down with Kirk for an hour and took five pages of notes, handed those off to football people, said you do with those notes what you will, but Brewer said Blank definitely did not close the door on a trade. Do you think it might be the Browns, and if it's not the Browns, and let's aaron doesn't sign with the steelers do you think kirk cousins has a chance to play with the steelers or do you think the browns is potentially the only place uh that kirk could go right now and be a starter potentially look the browns thing makes a lot of sense for two big reasons one there's a gaping hole at quarterback i mean pickett could hold the fort but he's not your only option and then twoanski and Cousins have a really good personal relationship.
I don't know why Kirk Cousins was at a Chipotle in Ohio over the weekend, but he was. That was confusing to me, but that also leads you to think, wait, what's going on here? Truth of the matter is, Penix is the future in Atlanta.
They're paying Cousins a boatload. Can they figure something out contract-wise? And is it really logical to think that Kirk Cousins, who signed on to the Atlanta Falcons to be the starter of the Atlanta Falcons, is thrilled to be the backup next year and to be grooming Michael Penix for a team that didn't even make the playoffs this season? At least in Cleveland, he goes to a quarterback's coach in a whisper that he's had.
He's got a relationship, a fan base that would be thrilled to have him. And he's an upgrade.
And he's the quarterback one. It makes sense.
Of course, the timing, they'd have to wait to be able to do this. But Miles Garrett, which, Pat, I was very vocal about on my last home, how we wasted an entire Super Bowl week listening to Miles Garrett talk about wanting to play for a Super Bowl champion and go on Radio Row and speak to anybody with a microphone and how all he wants to do is raise a Lombardi and then two weeks later get $40 million and sign and say, I want to be in Cleveland, actually.
A lot of Barrett did say that he knows of a plan at quarterback, and he's comfortable with that plan. I can't imagine it's with a rookie quarterback or it's I'm thrilled to go to war with Kenny Pickett.
Kenny Pickett, Super Bowl champion, last guy to touch the ball in the Super Bowl. I think Miles would be – I don't want to speak for Miles, but I think Shador Sanders or Kirk Cousins, which one would you be more comfortable with? I think if I'm out there getting 40 – I don't know if either one's the answer right away.
Well, no, he decided, though, $40 million was enough to sway his thoughts a little bit. He's there for another what?

Four, five, four, five.

Four years?

Three, four years?

I mean, top of the draft.

Kirk and Abdul Carter, though, too.

Kirk, do we remember?

We watched Kirk Cousins play football.

Did we all?

I know he was coming back.

Miles Garrett getting tripled.

Abdul Carter on the other side as well, D-Bud. But I'm taking on what you're putting down but we watched it Kirk was hot because he was I don't know coming off the killings I'll tell you this are they paying her cousin against the Raiders and I think it was deadman Ritter under center It was the worst performance I've ever seen from a quarterback in a game And I said I didn't that guy looks like a shell of what was.
And it came out afterwards. His shoulder was all busted up.
He was hurt. How much money do they spend on quarterbacks if they trade for Kirk Cousins and are paying Deshaun Watson? Well, that's been 37, right? It's 27 this year, then 10 million guaranteed next year because they did that thing what a week ago or whatever and kept him on the roster.
So that's an extra 37 million. So Shadir Sanders is the number two overall pick.
It sounds like. Can't the Fal pay salary in the trade uh yes they could definitely pick up some of it right just like the broncos did for the pittsburgh steelers so i mean i guess that could be a part of the trade but you'd have to give up what two yeah exactly why would you give up or what like a two picks not the number two overall and doesn't everyone i think this might be one of those where it's more like russell and uh in seattle and denver where you're it's it's a much more even trade as far as who's getting.
I don't think the Falcons have any leg to stand on to demand a bunch of draft picks for Kirk Cousins. So Atlanta would have to pay it and they wouldn't get a lot of...
Yeah, I think this is more let's cut our losses if they're doing that and let's give Kirk a chance to start somewhere. Okay, so Atlanta pays the bills then.
So then it is a cheaper contract. Because whenever you say Shador or Kirk, it's like, Shador, you're getting a very cheap, not very cheap, but you get it.
A rookie contract quarterback, which is what the San Francisco 49ers have with Brock Purdy, now much different as a number two overall pick as opposed to Mr. Irrelevant.
But still, the rookie contract at quarterback is a massive ordeal, especially if you've got debts all over the place, which what do you do? What do you do? I mean, if you're the Browns and you don't love Shador Sanders and you have the number two overall pick and this kid Carter is what you think he is and is a game changer. Do you sacrifice having that guy for 10 years to draft a quarterback that might've been the third or fourth quarterback taken in the draft last year.
And just because it's the year of the draft that we have the number of two pick, like it's this constant question of shopping when you're hungry and you don't want to go to the grocery store when you're starving because you end up buying all sorts of stuff that you don't want the next day. Shador Sanders, if you love him, take him.
And you think he's the future, that's great. And Miles Garrett might know that he's the guy and they feel great, then that's okay if he doesn't blow your way and you're stefanski and you know quarterbacks and you're andrew berry and you know quarterbacks and you're like do you just take them to take them so you say we got a quarterback that's tough yeah don't want to go shop on your starved you know but right now they're in a situation where who who they've been starving stone for a long time yeah well especially now they're more starving and stone than they've ever been.
They're paying a lot of money. How about Haslam coming out and being like, yep, that one's on me, bud.
Me and D, we certainly thought it was the case. It has been an organizational failure from top to bottom, and that starts with us.
That's what we all assumed why Andrew Barriens, the fans here, are still there is because we feel like a decision was made above them that has kind of handicapped them mightily. If it is Kirk Cousins going up there and they're able to go on a run, you know what? The dog pound, you didn't deserve it.
You didn't deserve it over there. Last question quickly here, Shregs.
We can't thank you enough. Go ahead, Ty.
Yeah, Shregs, we heard Ben Johnson, who everyone knows. He's a wonder kid.
He's the next guy. But he basically came out and said, hey, listen, EPA is more important than turnovers.
And although last year Caleb Williams, I think, had the second lowest EPA for quarterbacks in the NFL, is this something everyone knew? Is he like a big statistical guru and like analytics and all that kind of stuff? Because going in, I thought he was just, you know, straight ball X's and O's. And now I'm all of a sudden kind of getting brandon staley vibes out of ben johnson like what obviously um i've gotten to know ben pretty well and you know i think there's this thought that either a he's just like dorky x's and o's sit in the bottom of a basement and just draw plays.
Like I'm a mad scientist. Or there's this other feeling of it, like that he's this, you know, I'm going to shove it in the face of the Packers because I'm going to be that guy.
Truth of the matter is he's the total package. This is the guy who I think comes in here and values that stuff and might have said those stats, but I promise you, he's not

looking at Caleb Williams because of something

called EPA and what excites him.

He's looking at Caleb Williams because he sees

completely untapped potential,

an awesome arm,

a good kid, and a guy that they think

they finally built an offensive

line for this season with Jonah Jackson

and Tooney, and we can go through it all, but they're

like, this gives him a shot, but he had options, as we could have gone anywhere yes the money was good he also really wanted to work with caleb williams so i don't think it's because of turnover numbers or epa i think that was him just playing to the wonks a little bit uh love that playing to the wonks a little bit up there in chicago um epa earned points added is a stat per play basically where it's uh did you help your team on this play or did you hurt your team your plus minus yeah it's a plus minus for basketball it's for football do you know who is uh the worst ever will levis if you're wrong wait what do you mean ever last season maybe last season i don't. You see these points, I don't know how it can get much worse.
You can see it. There's some bad, bad, bad, bad, bad plays in the EPA.
But who's the one judging? That's the whole thing. And then the overall points, you have to play a certain amount of plays because then they just get added on to.
Earned point average per play, some people are like negative .17 or ..14 but if you don't play as many plays you won't be like negative 69 or negative 94 or whatever it is you'll just be negative 48 so whatever the case is this stat seemingly says do you stay on schedule and do do you hurt your team or do you help your team every single play it's a new one i'm no i'm no meathead pat but i think you know this show is going to be higher rated than the LeBron episode last week because I'm on it. But I think the ratings just tanked when you said the word EPA and started going through it.
And that's the problem. Viewers don't want to hear it.
And like we as media are trying to grasp it, but it is valued there in those buildings. And there are teams of analytical people putting these numbers together.
I'm just not hip to the stats. To me, it's, I want to see the guys throw and i want to see how they interact with your teammates what was the other one there was another one expected completion percentage over expectation yeah there is we get sent these over because hembo obviously will send us some stats and every once in a while there will just be this stat that is not real dvoa you know and it's like all right i understand here's a fake stat yeah it's cool i appreciate you but i don't know how that one applies but smart people do which you are one of them and we can't thank you enough for joining us and congrats on uh the espn deal brother i'm so excited uh really happy to be here and one of the primary reasons i sought out espn as a home home is because of the relationship you guys and your team has had with me and the ability to work together.
It's really cool, Pat. Schrager, we love you, man.
You're the best. Ladies and gentlemen, Peter Schrager.
Schrager's been good to us. Oh, yeah.
And he knows. Yeah, he's...
Yeah, he's... Like, I talked about coming out of the Emory College.
I think it's, like, the most expensive school. Yeah, very hard to get in.
I think it's like, I think it's all bazillionaires. What's their specialty? Money? I think just networking.
Oh, okay. I think, but probably business.
Yeah, 11% acceptance rate, which is low. Any other people we know came out of here? I learned about it whenever Schrags was on the show.
He said, I went to a school in Atlanta. It's like a small school in Atlanta.
And you would have thought you had heard of all the schools in atlanta because it's atlanta and then he said emory never heard of we looked it up it's like one of the most expensive schools in the history of schools i think not only acceptance rate but i think also like uh there has to be a massive bank account behind that one as well so i'd assume the networking pretty good down there you know those schools have a lot of these things happening at all times just like uh you know camps or or some of these high schools these private academies or anything like that that's but he he decided to take the route of like i'm going to the senior bowl in mobile and i'm sleeping on shitty mattresses and motels to try to meet people and he met a bunch of low-level guys basically coaches and scouts and through the years they've all kind of moved up as he has moved up and it's like uh schrags is plugged that's why his mock draft yeah is always the closest and uh he's a good get for espn oh yeah i personally believe that good morning football run he had over there was great they won an emmy obviously they did their thing i'm pumped he's with espn joining us now ladies and gentlemen is a man from mlb network from pittsburgh one of the greatest yinzers of all time. Ladies and gentlemen, the host of the Mayor's Office, Sean Casey.
Yeah, Mayor! What's up, fellas? Mayor, it is great to see you. We have a hard out in five minutes, which is unfair for the way that you operate, but we are appreciative of you being able to join us on such quick notice.
You, former hitting coach for the Yankees, the guy who was able to get good wood on a ball, you know, that is what your baseball resume would say about how you played. These torpedo bats are taking the world by storm.
Obviously that's jazz Chisholm. He has done a fantastic job with these.
The Yankees have hit a bunch of bombs i believe it was uh ellie de la cruz ellie de la cruz last night has four hits two bombs in his first night using this torpedo bat so a couple quick questions how come this hasn't always been the bat of choice why haven't we always had it and is this thing going to get banned or promoted in the MLB, do you think? Well, it's definitely going to get promoted. I mean, it goes through all the specs.
It's totally legal. I think the biggest thing they did here, because they have, there's a bat performance lab that Marucci and Victus bats have down in Baton Rouge.
And I think a lot of the players have been going there for years. And if you go back to paul goldschmidt in 2022 on the bottom of his bat like he had a bat like this and at the bottom of his bat was like a puck shape and everyone's like oh man what's going on goldschmidt's bat and what they found is when he was swinging he liked a little more weight at the bottom it felt better you know going through the zone with the metrics well what they found with the torpedo bat is all they did was, for a guy like Anthony Volpe, so the sweet part of the bat is like right here, right? The barrel.
What they did was, what they found was, Volpe hits a lot of his contact more towards the label, right, more down here towards the label. So what they did was, they took the barrel and they moved it down a little bit more, and made this end part thinner that's why it starts to look like a torpedo bat so but so what they're saying is Okay, if he hits it on the barrel and when he misses he misses more towards the label or he's hitting it towards the label more Why are we not putting the that sweet spot of the bat the density of the bat? Why aren't we moving it down on the bat? That's all they're doing then they have to figure out how to weigh it just right too because at the end of the day like for me I like the 34 inch 32 ounce bat like if I was gonna move those metrics I wanted to make sure it still felt good in my hands so these are totally legal Pat and at the end of the day too you know the the old saying you know it's it's the Indian not the arrow as far as like at the end if the Yankees went out and weren't good, they'd be like, oh, these torpedo bats have to go.
But the fact that they came out and hit so many pumps out the gate, you know, next thing you know, everyone's like, what's up with these torpedo bats? So you still got to have guys like Aaron Judge and Jazz Chisholm and Anthony Volpe and Austin Wells swinging the bat for them to be good. Yeah, Aaron Judge not using it, but I assume there comes a time in the playoffs it gets cold again, maybe he picks up a torpedo and tries to put the hat on inside out, a little bit of a rally.
I have a Marucci bat here as well. Will all bat companies be able to do this? And will it be specific for the batter? For instance, I watched Pete Rose think on fox with uh i think alex rodriguez was there and uh frank thomas yeah maybe ortiz yes something i forget who was there but they asked him about like if he was having an off day and he was like well if i was fast on the ball i would just move up in a batter's box if i was getting jammed i'd move back in a batter's box if i was slow i'd move to the back end of it so with you saying like hey this guy whenever he gets jammed is up here so they just move the density there they'll be doing that for everybody then basically is that kind of the next step of this and how many companies can actually do this everybody i think any company could do it like i said marucci and victus have that bat performance lab in baton rouge where they fly guys in in the offseason and they say hey listen you're swinging the bat for whatever reason however your bat comes through the zone you're hitting 65 of the balls towards the label let's make a bat for you that moves that barrel down there to optimize when you hit the ball so for a guy that hits the ball on a standard bat on the barrel a lot which like like an Aaron Judge, a lot of guys, most guys do.
They're not necessarily going to need the torpedo bat. But at the end of the day, if you're moving the barrel down on that bat, what you're doing is you're exposing the end.
A lot of guys don't hit the ball off the end. So you're giving yourself a sweeter, you know, more barrel to hit the ball on.
So I just think it'll be good for some guys and i've also heard um there's been eight eight or so teams that have ordered these torpedo bats going into even last year some guys don't like them some guys are hitting with them like i don't like this and some guys like them so you know at the end of the day it's a preference it's almost like really quick pat it's almost like golf clubs for golf clubs you go you go to get fitted for golf clubs right they're like oh hey use this driver you're better with a stiffer shaft you're better with this and all of a sudden you're like okay that makes sense for me that's what's starting to happening with bats in the big leagues where they're like okay why are we all swinging the same bats that we've swung for so long let's try and get an advantage and figure out how we can make a bat that fits your needs better. You're the best.
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Sports are happening all around us, and we're incredibly lucky that we get to talk about it.

The Toxic Tables here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt.

Sounds like people are going to be moving forward with these torpedo bats.

It's all going to be a preference thing, but I think the torpedo bat era is about to begin in a big way, Ty Schmidt. Sounds like people are going to be moving forward with these torpedo bats.
It's all going to be a preference thing, but I think

the torpedo bat era is

about to begin in a big way, Ty Schmidt.

I hope so, because it's a lot more

fun, even if you're not just watching one of your teams.

You're going to watch highlights of any of these

games, and last night,

it's just like, Ellie De La Cruz is a stud,

but if we can have more guys just on

these days of the week where there's nothing really else

to talk about other than baseball games, and we're getting guys hitting two homers and having four hits and having seven RBIs, that's good for the game as a whole. I hope this whole thing doesn't kind of just slow to a stop and the torpedo bats in a couple weeks or in a month.
Once we get later into the season, it kind of just becomes a non-starter and guys aren't doing this because it was kind of like what we talked about with spider attack a couple years ago which they got they got rid of it but it was bring it back yep bring back spider attack let the spider attack come back and let them do their best against uh the batter's absolute best bat i mean the fact that these are legal bats and they're just now specifying and the mayor uh whenever he was chit-chatting at the end of the hour and then through the end of the hour into the break a little bit he was talking about how you know marucci the paisans down there the bat makers they basically have you fly in they have you hit some and it's like hey here's where you hit the ball uh more often than not let's move the density of the bat to there to kind of at least help you get a little bit better wood every once in a while helps your miss be better just like with golf clubs with the wedges where they align and where they put weight at hey you're assuming you do this let's put a little weight on the tip or on the toe that might be able to bring it back it's like i just assumed they'd been doing this forever but i guess the only difference between everybody was just the weight and the thickness of it this is the next level this is technology technology kind of making a sport better. And I think they should let the pitchers have spider attack.
Let these baseball batters have their best bats. And let's go have them go at it.
And even bring those juice balls back, too. That's what I kind of figured that pitchers would start bitching about this.
Because I would assume from their perspective, it is kind of unfair. What you're trying to do when you're pitching, you're trying to miss barrels.
So it's like if these guys are moving the bat around and it's like, hey, I'm trying to jam this guy, but now the barrel is essentially more near the handle. It's like you're trying to do what you're setting out to do, but somehow they've moved the bat around, so this guy is still hitting it right on the sweet spot.
So that's why I think pitchers would be like, well, now we have a massive disadvantage. They said we had a huge advantage with the spider attack because all these guys could throw nasty breaking stuff and the spin rates were ridiculous.
So I think they should kind of bring that back to even it out a little bit because that's going to be their biggest point of contention. It's like I'm jamming this guy and he's still hitting a three-run homer.
That's bullshit. You bring back the juice balls, and because you have the juice balls, they're a little bit more slick, so you got to give the pitchers their spider tack.
So now we don't have to do any more of the stupid checks either. They got their spider tack.
It's good on good. Don't have to look amateur doing the whole, let me see your hands, hat, cheeks, the whole thing.
Where are you hiding? You're hiding behind your knee? Show us. Where does does it take shoes off you know what you're doing down there in your ankle that's a weird thing to happen and it started happening because there's too much spider attack give them spider attack give the juice ball let the torpedo bats happen and let's have some baseball darius putler i love it and for it just makes too much sense so i feel like somehow some way they'll be we'll it up.
They'll mess it up. Makes too much sense for baseball because we will we will more of us will watch casually especially this time of year.
This is what we need and I'm looking at these Dela Cruz highlights and I'm pissed off. It's not enough not enough asses in the seats for a superstar a stud like that doing the shit that he does.
I mean you got to get out there and watch this guy play. I know opening day is a big thing out for the Reds, right? Yeah.
A bunch of teams, but especially for them, like, come on, look at those seats, man. There's a lot of games.
You know, they're not going to be able to sell out everywhere unless you're in one of those markets that has millions of humans living there and the team is historic. It's like Pittsburgh, the PNC.
That place is beautiful. It is gorgeous.
But if that thing's getting 30% capacity, 40% capacity, that's a huge middle-of-the-week potential game. You were here last night.
Skins will fill up. Okay.
But there's 140 other games. Yeah.
Did you go outside last night here? No. No, because it was 40 in rain.
Since he's right down the road. I mean, if I got a chance to watch him play ball, he may give me to the ball.
Yeah, or he may pick tomorrow. Joining us now, what's that mean? It's like, well, if it's going to be 40 in rain at night, you know what? There are 161 more of these things, so maybe we'll go tomorrow, and maybe something will be nice.
Easy come easy come easy go let's go to a cincinnati reds fan he wasn't there i didn't see him there to watch the show ladies and gentlemen college football national champion super bowl champion rider cup winner aj hawk a lot of people dress like seats at the reds game am i right i give credit to the people that actually went to that game i i went back and sat outside at a lacrosse game, my daughter's lacrosse, and it was full-blown winter conditions, like blowing 40 miles an hour, 40 degrees. It was brutal.
Yeah, which does make it difficult to hit. And we've talked more about baseball, I think, than we've ever done in the past.
I'm genuinely interested. I am, especially with this torpedo bat thing.
Like, if they're able to make this big of an innovation to make the game much better while still being within the rules you know because everything else they've had to like kind of critique the rules stealing signs always been legal hitting trash cans too far yeah can't do that okay then like steroids okay we're not really testing but can't do that and then all of a sudden everybody is on it and everybody's awesome and baseball is more popular than it's ever been and it's like well now we're going to test for everything it's like there's always unwritten rules in baseball and then something happens and then they have to kind of fix it and this one not even unwritten rule they're like nah this is within the rule book they're doing it all right and to dbutt's point we automatically assume that baseball want to make their sport worse you know we automatically assume that they'll be like this all makes too much sense they're going to try to ban this so it seems like it's being welcomed more teams are wanting them and if we get those juice balls and a spider attack back with shohei with tawny in the in the business juan soto going over to the mets making making the amount of money he has. Obviously, a once-in-a-generation guy like Paul Skeens.
It's like, is baseball kind of, is baseball interesting? Can we, are we going to pay attention? I think so. I think so.
Yeah, I think this has legs. I think it has legs, but I want to know how much power the pitchers have when it comes to baseball because I would imagine every pitcher, I don't know, I shouldn't say every pitcher, but don't you't you think the majority of them are thinking hey you guys are messing with the girth on these bats you can't do this these guys are hitting two or three homers every game yeah and you know just like how defense is uh kind of treated in the nfl which goes great the one rule change i was being pitched to potentially assist uh defenders that thing is not getting passed no no yeah that thing was not getting passed so we don't know if it's the same way in baseball with pitchers but the new rules did pass and there's nothing that is making defense easier or better but we do know that there has been some changes made replay assist going to be better for all parties we assume yes especially as the people that are doing that are getting younger and more used to what they're looking at and better with the technology and quicker and able to kind of assist, which we saw happen last year a lot, where a flag would be thrown, then a ref would get a message almost immediately and be like, oh, nope, we're picking it up.
We're moving along after a replay assist or further assist or whatever they would say. Love that.
Touchback to the 35. We're going to get more returns.
OK, people aren't going to want to give that up. Love that.
Regular season overtime rules being the same as the playoff overtime rules as opposed to being going in forever. It does have a 10-minute limit.
And then the tush push has been tush pushed back to May for their next date and gathering. What are your thoughts on it all, AJ? What's your big takeaway from what has been voted by the competition committee down in beautiful Florida? I think there's a little bit of what we expected obviously the defensive holding and illegal contact i did not expect that to get through on this one i thought that moving the kickoff touch back to the 35 i thought it was maybe 50 50 chance just because i feel like hasn't the nfl promoted as a big success like the new weird looking kickoff to where we have what 1800 more plays or whatever they call it and we have a lot less concussions however you test that yeah and i i think the nfl was very pumped with it and i think at the end of the season is really when they were flexing you know they're like this is exactly what we wanted we wanted it to be a dynamic play being added back in and turpin obviously goes bananas i think he signed a deal too congrats to him obviously he comes from the xfl and then he has a big moment like that with a new return.
I think they're even trying to make it easier for returns. I think it's like 6-3-2 now as opposed to 7-whatever it was in the past.
So I think they're adding another person. And I think allegedly Roger Goodell was pushing for it to go to the 35 because I had an opportunity to talk to Commissioner Goodell about the new kickoff rules.
I think it was about midway through the season, I think, midway through the year, and he was pumped with it. He thought the opportunities were great, and then I immediately go, got to move that to 35 to kind of scare more people, and his immediate thought and his response was a lot of people have said that in the special teams world.
So kind of an NFL thing to test it, see how it works we going to keep it are we going to critique it a little bit or are we going to get rid of this they've we've seen things get tested and then tossed after one season now i think they saw it they saw the upside of it especially at the end of the year last year when there's more returns and they want to create more i love it it's good for special teams it is great for special teams coaches it's great for special teams players i'm happy to say or i'm happy to see that they think they got it right is what i'm thinking uh aj from watching them kind of adjust this rule yeah and it is going to absolutely you know force more returns and we love seeing returns it's something that people i guess take for granted it's like an afterthought when you're like a casual casual football fan. But if you're there and you're on the staff or you're on the team,

you know absolutely how big of a deal these things are.

Yeah, if you take one to the crib, you're probably going to win the game.

That is just how it goes.

If you get one out to the 50, the offense is jogging on the field.

I mean, that's a whole...

Forced a fumble.

Imagine forcing a fumble if you're covering the first kickoff of a game

and you force a fumble or something to get that thing.

Huge.

Game over. Yeah.
You know, you used to be able to set the tone with the... Locking arms.
The big wedge. Fuck it.
That was... I'm a wedge buster.
What is your job? I bust wedges. What are wedges? Well, it's three professional athletes linking their arms together with a returner behind them, and they are running full speed at me.
I am running full speed at them. You got to put a descriptor on those three athletes, too.
You're right. Linebackers, defensive linemen, potentially an offensive lineman.
Whoa. Could be anywhere from 240 pounds to 340 pounds.

And they can run.

They can move.

They will be moving in your direction.

And they are trying to bust you.

So you're trying to bust them.

They're trying to bust you.

It's a game of Red Rover, but really you're outnumbered every time.

And you're just going to do one of these.

And if you can take up two, even better.

So you just do what you got.

That's what the kickoff used to be.

And you could set a tone. Colts had a guy.
I think he was a defensive lineman. He was before I got there.
Cracked four helmets or something like that. Cracked four helmets.
That is a valuable player to that squad because the coach can show film with that dude every week too. You talk about laying on the line.
Check this guy out. He's half brain dead already.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. But guys take pride in their job is what I'm saying.
Yeah, I think he cracked three or four helmets or whatever. And they'll show it on NFL films as one of the highlights.
He was just I think he was a five. So he's right down the middle of the field to the ball.
And it was it was go time. And he exploded through people's heads.
And I've seen the clips. I wish that guy was on my team.
You should have seen what it was like when I forget his name. I wish I knew his name.
Was the last name Reed? Yeah, maybe. Lineman 95, maybe? Big helmet.
Big helmet. So fast.
Just so fast.

Can't do that anymore now because everybody's lined up next to each other.

Which is why when the touchbacks happen, these look worse than the touchbacks of the old. Because people are just standing at the 30, touchback, all right, jog off the field.
And now, like, I guess there was chatter about moving the kickoff back five yards, the kicker, back five yards. instead of moving the touchback to the 35.

You can move it back, kickoff back to the 30,

which is what it used to be uh back in the day i still think there'll be kickers that could get it out if they wanted to um but that would certainly force some of the weaker legged kickers uh to probably put up more balls that'll be returned um how do you feel though legitimately about legitimately about the defensive thing not passing? Do you think that's just forever now? Amen? Not surprised at all. And as the numbers continue to go up as quarterbacks continue to make money betting, you know, people want fantasy, like all the things that, you know, are offensive in the league.
So you're not going to make it tougher for the offense. I think that's why even the tush push, partly why that's kind of been tabled.
But I had zero expectations for the defensive stuff to be passed, just like AJ. It's just not happening.
The other one that's interesting is the seeding, because the NFL isn't the only sport talking about the changing of the seeding. I know the NBA, they're already talking about just doing 1-16.
Eight teams on the East, eight teams on the West, and then completely reseeding them and doing just a 1 through 16

NBA playoff.

This one feels like it could actually happen

where instead of making

those teams that do go

14-3 go on the road, that maybe they still

get a home game. I don't know.

I don't know. Playoffs are so

successful. You've got to remember

end of day,

we're getting like 60 million views,

50 million viewers for these

Thank you. I don't know.
Playoffs are so successful. You've got to remember, end of day, we're getting like 60 million views, 50 million viewers for these playoff games.
With the way the NFL operates, that would be a drastic change with that move. Would it bring more viewers? Would it bring more fans? That's the question.
Maybe it does. Maybe it does because the games get better and the people get rewarded.
In my head, I'm not saying I'm against this at all.

At all.

I'm not saying I'm against it.

What I'm saying is the NFL very rarely will just make a drastic change to something,

especially if it's having massive success,

which the playoff numbers for football are absurd. I mean, the NFL numbers are bananas.

I heard Shreg say yesterday on his last episode of Good Morning Football how much the owners love if you just win your division. You get a home playoff game.
You get all those ticket money. You get all those concessions, blah, blah, blah.
And then you yesterday said basically the same thing, but not from the owner's perspective, but more of a player's perspective. Winning the division means something, and that's awesome.
Whether you have the fifth best record in that conference or not, win the division, as someone like we come from a division that means something, like we have rivalries within the division, that winning the division means getting a home field. Yeah, hanging a banner, it means something.
Yeah, it means something. Yeah, I guess not every stadium has division championship banners, but you still get in, mean, you still get in.
You still get the hat. You still get in the playoffs.
And, like, of course, winning a division championship means something, but, like, how do we talk about it on here? Like, only one team is happy. So, sure, it definitely means something to the players and the ownership and everything like that, absolutely.
And they're still going to the playoffs. It just feels as though having, you know, being in a division where there's only been one great team with the Bills.
Maybe that's why I feel this way. But like when you are in these very difficult divisions, the NFC North, the AFC North, like it does feel like, hey, why? You know, if we win 12 games and, you know, the Ravens or the Steelers win 13 or we the Patriots win 10 games in the Ravens and the Steelers excuse me win 12 or 13 games like even looking at that it's like if I was a Ravens or Steelers fan it's like shit I would I would want that home playoff the Lions pitching this is strictly because week 18 game against the Vikings they both have 13 or 14 wins whatever it was it's not 13 wins and they were going to have to go from seed one, which is permanent home field advantage throughout the playoffs, to seed five, which is not even a home playoff game.
Lions win that game, and they still are the ones making the pitch because I think they're saying, that was bullshit for the Vikings. Because if they would have lost that game, they would have been like, so we're the second best team in the entire league, and now we're a five seed.
We've got to go on the road through the entirety of it all. It's a fascinating.
Just had their best regular season in franchise history, and they might have been a wild card team. I don't see it changing.
Me neither. They had to play.
It was great for the NFL. They had to play their guys.
That was basically an extra playoff game we got from two of the best teams in the NFL with like you said, four

spots in the playoffs on the line going from

a one, two, or five. So I don't see

it changing. It's just

it's too big a part

of the NFL and what the culture is

in the NFL. Yeah, not saying it's not a good idea.

Yeah, for sure. Not saying it's not a good idea

and thinking that it would work out, but it's like

the way the NFL operates is they'll be like

what? So you're telling me pull up the numbers. How many did we get at Wild Card Weekend? How many viewers did we have? Okay, how many upsets has there been in Wild Card Weekend? How many teams have gone on a run? It feels like the people that are voting in the room wouldn't want to make that big of a rattle to their baby.
I mean, they're selling playoff games now directly to streaming platforms, and the numbers and the amount of money they're getting is just gigantic. So I'm not saying they shouldn't change it, but I don't think that one's ever going to get changed.
No, and like with the NBA, it makes a little bit more sense because sometimes you see like, well, the Western Conference has 11 teams that should be in the playoffs, and the East is really bad, so that makes sense. But typically in the NFL, it's pretty evened out with how good the teams are in the AFC and the NFC.
There might be one division. We talked about the NFC South the last couple years.
It's like whoever gets in here is kind of screwing over one of these teams. The NFC South.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, the AFC South is back. Yeah, the AFC South too, but the Texans have been pretty solid.
But very rarely is it like, oh, the NFC has eight teams that have 10 wins and the AFC only has three teams that have 10 wins and a couple of those should get in. It is typically pretty evenly balanced between the two divisions.
Coming out of the league meetings also, we have new flex rules for Thursday night football.

Tom Pellicero, the era, reported that the NFL owners passed a resolution allowing the league to flex Sunday games to Thursday night with 21 days notice. Need three weeks if you're going to cut off three days of my weekend.
No team can do more than two short week games on Thursday night. And there can be no more than two of these games flexed from Sunday to Thursday.
I assume there's a certain restrict or two, like past week seven or past week eight, like they have with Sunday night football. They obviously did this last year one time, I believe, and now they're going to be able to really do it another time.
And now they're shortening the amount of time from 28 days to 21 days for the notice to go on a short week. I like any time these primetime games have the flexibility to move a shite game that we all see coming to a good game or a great game if it is available.
There's always going to be Cinderella teams that we don't know are going to be good. So whenever the schedule makers piece together these primetime games and which week, who is playing what, they have no idea that the Washington Commanders might be one of the teams that everybody on earth will want to watch a couple years ago the Cincinnati Bengals go from a four-win team to a team that ends up going to the Super Bowl so they're not scheduled to be in a lot of primetime games before the season starts but all of a sudden wait a minute this team should be on primetime TV I wish networks would pull the trigger more yes on flexing games a lot of networks are scared to do it because they don't want to piss off any of the franchises, which are obviously all individual entities.
They don't want to ruin any relationships. They don't want to piss off any fan bases either because if you say no, a New York team is scheduled for three straight primetime games.
They suck. They're not good.
We're forced to watch them. But a lot of networks are scared to tell they're in fan base, which is gigantic, even though their team stinks, that they're not worthy of being on primetime.
We're going elsewhere. So I think if it becomes much more common, networks will be much more comfortable making the decision to do it.
So I like that they're trying to make it easier for primetime games to get better for all of us, AJ. Yeah, I they're doing i think they're going to continue to find creative ways to to get all the best games like as we as the season goes in prime time but think about how valuable these are when when the whole you know schedule release comes out that's a big deal now the nfl does a great job of making that a huge deal but you sit there and you highlight how many primetime games each team has so yeah of course you don't want those from you, but you should also say, hey, if you're one of these terrible teams and you don't have any primetime games, you might get flexed into two primetime games if you take care of business early in the year.
Especially with what the ratings are later in the year. Ratings are bigger at the end of the year, so you can earn your way into it.
So you're right. I think it does give the teams that are projected to be shite an opportunity to earn their way into primetime.
And and that's how prime time should be treated by the way when you're in these prime time games they're doing pieces and segments they're showcasing your team your city your building your players like prime time games matter not just because people see the field the play on the field or get a chance to experience a fan base and everything like that but because they're telling the story of your team every single week in different ways so whenever the dallas cowboys are on you know four straight five straight weeks i mean how many different dac prescott interviews are we getting in there how many different you know conversations about the jones family in the stadium like they they highlight your franchise so not having a prime time game sucks for your business. Oh, yeah.
Sucks for your team. Sucks for your players.
Sucks for your business. Sucks for your city.
It sucks for your fans that aren't in your city because they can't see shit, you know, unless they get NFL Plus, which is a weapon, obviously, for people that are out of their market. But it's like I hope they make flexing more common.
Yeah. I hope it becomes more common.
And when the good games, the good teams aren't flex, it sucks for the casual fans who are just going to turn on the primetime game. So I'm right there with you.
And speaking like Dak, like when Dak got hurt last year and we still had however many Cowboys games, Danny Dimes was hurting New York, still had the Giants on every few weeks. So like a team like Colts this year, when Anthony Richland is on his MVP run, midway through the year, we get back to a couple Thursday night games.
And for the fans, it's always great that we get these games on primetime. But even for the players, it sucks getting to that Thursday night game.
But once you get through it and you have that kind of mini bye week, you have that weekend off, that's also awesome. Then the storytelling aspect of it, when you can tell a relevant story that's unfolding in real time, like Jaden Daniels and the Commanders last year, for example, CJ Stroud the previous year, maybe Drake May next year.
That's better for the fans, better for the fan bases, and like you said, for the organization. Drake May be.
Yeah, most likely. But is it still the situation where some of the networks can say no? you remember when the ravens and commanders were the one o'clock game on cbs and then the sunday night game was absolute shites and everyone was like oh this is an easy fix let's just move the commanders and the ravens to sunday night football but cbs was able to say no like do they still have yeah can we change that rule yeah like is that rule still in place because Because that's the biggest problem.
Yeah, because who's Amazon going to be able to get it from? Bingo. It's like, oh, okay, so instead of this game, we're getting another shite game that is slated for 4 o'clock.
Because CBS and Fox have the 1 and 4, right? Yeah. The daytime shit.
They're the ones that have all the games. All the games are AFC one side, NFC the other, obviously.
They kind of run that shit. Fox, NFC, CBS, AFC.
If you're not in primetime, you're going to be on one of those, probably regionally, depending upon where you're at. If they were to get a good game, actually, in one of those spots to be able to do it, and then Amazon, who has no affiliation with them, is like, hey, excuse me.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, we're taking that.
There's no way they're going to say that. Well, there's no chance.
Isn't it where each – I could be wrong. I thought it was where Fox and CBS have the right to protect one game each week.
So if they do have, let's just say like Ravens, Bengals, they're going to protect that one. But if they're – let's say the Patriots are 8-0 and they're playing the Packers who are 7-0 or in this situation, let's pretend it's the second best game of the week.
Amazon can take that one. They can only, CBS and Fox, I think can only protect one game.
That's the problem. Is that like a lot of times there's only three good, like a lot of times, especially once we get to like week eight, week 10, there aren't that many good games.
Two games, two good games on a Sunday is very good for us us they're like a five six week period and guess what one of them's on cbs and one of them's on fox so or nbc on sunday night or yeah bingo so it's like even in that situation like it really should be more so like hey the four the three prime time games they get their pick because those are the games that no matter what we are going to watch, we have to watch them. We're watching.
And then on Sunday, sometimes there is that game that comes out of nowhere that wasn't supposed to be good. And it turns out to be incredible.
And that's on Sunday. And that's a real treat.
It really is. But those Monday, Thursday, and Sunday night games, they have to be the best games of the week.
And on that note, I'm done with the way you guys are stacking these games. One and four o'clock.
We all have the opportunity for the quad box who's on YouTube TV. For those that aren't on to the streaming area yet at YouTube TV, and I assume Hulu's going to have this soon, we all doing it.
With the Red Zone channel, we're doing it. There is no reason for there to be eight in one and then three in the other or whatever it is.
Let's make sure we're making this conducive. Even it out.
Let's make sure this is good. And is Scott Hansen up? Yes.
Is that what I saw? Who's doing it? I don't know. That's A.
You can't just plug anybody in there, I don't think. After this year? I think he's up.
I believe he's in contract negotiations right now. They'll get that done.
It feels like they... I don't know.
Tony Reale threw his hat in the ring and said, hey, that'd be a dream job. And Tony...
That's from around the horn. Excuse you, dude.
I just wanted to make sure. He is a free agent.
Scott? He could do it. He could do a good job.
We're not putting Tony there. Tony would be, I think his brain would be one that could do it.
My thing with that red zone operation there, and everybody just talks about Scott not peeing for seven hours. Scott's got to keep up with 10 storylines in seven hours.
He's got somebody literally chatting with him while he's doing this about where he's going. The talent that that guy showcases, memory, has to remember first quarter, whenever he's in the fourth quarter of all the games, and then also directing of traffic and not sounding like an asshole.
Now, there's some times where he'll start a narrative that I don't think is the right narrative. Sure.
Okay, and then he'll have to revisit it a little bit later. Yeah, he can't.
But he's flying 1,000 miles an hour around. That's a tough gig.
I think he makes it sound. Throw someone else in there.
Can you imagine, Pat, if you threw someone, just throw some random in there and say, here you go, give it a shot for 10 minutes. Imagine, like, you'd be swimming.
I think it's also, like, sensory overload, too. Oh, yeah.
Because the amount of, yeah. Imagine starting that, though, knowing you're going, like, seven straight hours, just starting that every Sunday.
He definitely makes it look much easier than it is. I think that's the thing.
Producing it, like, he's basically live producing. You can hear him going at it, producing it.
Hey, can we get that? Yeah, get the Browns, Browns get that play back up? Yeah, I need Scott in there, okay? Me too. I agree.
Me too. I think the NFL has to know that, but maybe not.
Well, because Ciceliano used to do it, so they might, I mean, if he's playing hardball, they might say, listen, we'll bring Ciceliano. No, he's with the Browns now.
Yeah, I know. I'm sure he'd be okay with leaving the Browns radio job to do red zone again.
Maybe Adam Schein throws it in the ring. Adam Schein could do it.

It's going to take a special talent to get in there.

As somebody that speaks into a microphone,

and I believe I probably have a pretty okay memory and everything like that,

that one I've tried to put myself in his position at home.

I'm like, all right, how could this work out? This could be – is this a – because college ball needs one. So do we pitch that? The NHL could have one.
There's a lot of those that they could have. But it's not just as easy as the concept.
The person that is doing it matters in that entire thing. And it's just like you have to be in for a long time.
And the way he does it, I don't don't think that's an easy person. He also has to have a – Reese was kind of doing it.
Yeah, Reese was doing it. He also has to have a general knowledge of 90% of the players in the league in case something happens.
All the background. Yeah.
Yeah. That's not an easy gig.
Backup quarterback. Yeah, all of it.
Like you said, too, there's a difference between doing TV and having a producer in your ear a little bit. I assume that there is a producer in his ear damn near every second of that entire eight-hour block.
Yeah. Hey, this is next, this is next, this is next.
Just constantly, basically, it's like having 15 voices in your head. Anthony Calhoun wished...
I hear voices in my head. They talk to me.
They talk to me. They talk to me.
What a song. Yeah.
Anthony Calhoun, Wish TV, here in Indianapolis. I believe he was Syracuse's classmates with Scott Hansen.
So he does a charity golf outing to raise money for the local teachers here, I believe. And one of them is to spend a day at Red Zone.
So I got a chance via his documentation of it. And it's like watching Scott go from, I assume it's NFC notes on one thing, AFC notes on another thing, then bouncing to the second page of the AFC note with like four TVs in front of him without even skipping a beat and then even looking at the camera afterwards with like a point and then, now let's get to Las Vegas.
He's directing traffic. He's like a meteorologist.
Hey, we need Scott back in there. We need Scott.
It is no longer seven hours of commercial free football though. And nobody cared.
People were pissed there for about a week and then everybody turned it right back on. And they're like, wait a second, weren't we running LRAPs on this thing

this entire time? Whenever he was saying

seven hours of commercial free football

and then I saw Christian McCaffrey on an LRAP

I'm like

The fuck's that?

I think that's a commercial.

I think you are profiting from this but now that

they're stopping it picture in picture doing their thing

we assume it was only a matter of time.

It was only a matter of time before that happened and everybody was pissed on the internet yeah until the following too valuable way too valuable they have to it happens a lot and that's mad well yeah it does on the internet yeah we're mad and then we're not actually in real life and then you know as soon as it's 12 58 yeah what four games am on? Am I? There's one of these ones that just kind of tracks them all. Just put the audio on.
You tell me I got to watch Jags, Browns locally. That's the only thing I got.
I think I'll go to Red Zone. Okay, yeah, 12.59.
Yeah. One more week.
And then when Scott goes, Welcome to seven hours of Red Zone football. This mother.
All right. I'm not tomorrow.
I'll stop. Yeah, that is.
They know it. I couldn't even fathom what the numbers are for red zone.
Massive. That has to be a cash cow.
Oh, yeah. Absolute cash cow.
I bet those ads make so much money for them. With fantasy football, that's all people care about.
It's like who's scoring. Like, who are my fantasy guys? What are they doing? Gambling.
Parleys, yeah. Touchdowns is someone who only bets on touchdown scoring parlays.
Red zone is basically the only thing I would have to watch if I was just worrying about gambling. So, schedule makers, what we're trying to say is make red zone easier because we're all watching it.
So, if you have the 1 and 4 o'clock times easily separated, I think they should be able to flop those too. granted that would be cross networks i guess but what like if there's three one o'clock games like should be able to bounce you know yeah you're right you know because there's like some four o'clock slates that are cropped and then there's like a loaded one 11 ones yeah and it's like we need them all it's like i wish they would be a little bit more active in making it easier to kind of do it all.
Players would have to be the ones that would have to adjust to this, obviously, but Sunday to Thursday is really the only biggest one. If you're Sunday at 1 to primetime, not a big deal.
If you're Sunday to Monday, not that big of a deal. If you're Monday to Thursday, then, you know, that would be impossible seemingly, but that would be a little bit different.
But I think we're going to get to a point where it's going to be a show game. Because remember, didn't they say at one point there was a rumor about the afternoon games were going to be up for sale? Yeah.
Do you remember that when it was going to be like a... Like a bid? They were going to do like a draft almost.
Yeah. I think that's only a matter of time.
Really? Yeah. I think they're going to try to profit off of more games.
If we're thinking about the NFL. Obviously.
What is the NFL? They're going to UAE, right? I mean, yeah. Why are they doing that? Sean McDermott wants to play over there.
As Conman would say, it has to be about the shekels. That is what Conman would say.
That isn't what I would say, but I'm picking up. Shrek said that is what you said.
Yeah, well, in that question. A couple times.
No, just once. Thank you today.
Maybe spend some of your shekels. All the time.
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What happened? What happened? Turns out we don't need to worry about tickets on the moon because we never okay all right that's what happened okay that's just what i'm they might be selling tickets underneath the great pyramids though okay all right that's all something about that car there's been a lot of that too much i have to tell my i'll go i go into search bar i, no more moon stuff. Search.
Just hoping that the

AI understands a lot of

videos. Saw a lot of interviews, old school

interviews. Those are all doctored.

Okay.

I'm sure Buzz Aldrin

would go to the moon

and then just willingly

a bunch of years later just say, well, we never went.

We never went.

I've been sucking this guy's dick

about going to the moon for 50

years. One day he's just, I'm

See you next time. a bunch of years later just say, well, we never went.
We never went. I didn't see that.
Is that what you're seeing? I've been sucking this guy's dick about going to the moon for 50 years. One day he's just, I'm sick and tired of it.
We never went. I hate to burst your butt.
Is that what you're seeing? I didn't see that. Yeah, I've seen that.
That's all what I saw. The most obvious doctored footage ever.
Listen, I could go in and... What's the doctored footage? That's what Connor just said.
I mean, his interviews are doctored. This guy's 90 years old.
He can take

his words from 60 different

years and put it together. He'll say

anything. He'll say anything.

Shit, I can make him say that

he's been to the moon 450

times in the last three years.

You know what? I might do that.

Actually, wait for that video. It'll be out

in the next week.

I haven't seen any of those interviews. I've seen so many of those.
I'm sorry you've seen those. Oh, yeah.
AI voiceovers. What's your algorithm trying to do to you, John? I don't know.
Well, it's all these assholes tagging me, and it acts like we didn't go to the moon. Guess what we did? And no amount of, you know, gerrymandered and no amount of research that you do is going to convince me otherwise.
You're picking and choosing. Sounds like your algorithm is joining their side, too.
You're going to tackle it from all angles. Some of these AIs are watching the moon landing videos and saying, well, this isn't real.
You guys believe this? Is that possible? Is that possible? Certification, certificate class. What? Yeah, he, certification is the word.
Yep, you get it. You get certified in AI? Uh, not.
Took a 10 minute class that turned into a four hour class. I think you went to expert level.
It's got my, his master's degree. 45 minutes.
I didn't get it. I got 45 minutes worth.
It was great work. to go back.
And it was, you know, just learning some of the basics, some of the terminology.

What do we need to know about AI that maybe we fear or that we don't know about?

Yeah.

The thing, we're fine.

We'll always need humans.

We'll always need humans.

What's the great benefit from? That's exactly what they want you to think.

We'll always be humans.

The great benefit, I mean, the benefit is you can just, you know, multiply whatever work you're doing. So if you're, or if you could just obviously type shit in, how we build photos on Grock, AI photos.
If you want to put a flyer out, if you want to put classes out, teaching, learning, obviously all those. Cheating.
Yeah, cheating for sure. So kids now, I mean, they just type in anything and just.
Why will we always need humans? Because we direct that thing. We direct it and then we have to.
For now. For now.
He has a certificate, not you. Okay, I watched this guy do a class.
Hey, how do we keep it from directing itself and directing us and changing, you know, ruining us? I don't have the answer. Wait, why did you take the class? He just got certified, man.
Look at this. Look how official that is.
He took the class, okay? And this one said, this one said, can't come, you don't really think that was number one. And then he went through 45 minutes, went through it all.
I believe what you told me, though, is they'll never understand conversation. AI will never.
So, let's say, no. So it's just certain context that we have with conversation.
So even in our age group, a certain conversation that we can have amongst 10-year-olds. Mad dummy.
And it would just go completely over their head. And it's fucking old people that are 90 years old that can say certain things that we wouldn't pick.
Or if we're speaking a language, if we're speaking Spanish, but Spanish speakers can speak and say things that we wouldn't necessarily get. So, yeah, they can figure some shit out, but it's so much context that, you know, there's their machines and they're learning.
It's just the beginning, though, D-Bud. It's just the beginning.
It's another class. It is just the beginning.
This is 201. Can a computer talk like a human? That's a good episode.
That was the part we were talking about. Yeah, but see, that's the problem.
Sweet Blake in that? You just mentioned school and humans and stuff. AI will become so good at it that people won't actually learn anything.
So then people will start to get much dumber, and then the AIs get smaller. Are we talking about idiotocracy, brother? Look, I'm just saying, look out.
The AI put that class together for him. So that was a thing.

Those were humans, all right?

The humans over at IBM.

Do you know that?

Oh, at IBM?

You sure it wasn't Watson?

You mean Watson?

Okay.

Might have been Watson.

And that's why they're always going to need humans, too.

Who's going to do all the manual labor?

Who's going to wear the shackles and chains?

Eventually, guess what?

We are.

We are.

That's the, you know.

So, yeah.

They will always need humans.

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That's how I want to call it. Is it going to help the fact that, I don't know if you guys saw Kid Rock wearing his Evel Knievel jumpsuit.

He was in there and they're trying to pass a bill for resale tickets where the secondary

buyers come and screw everybody else over.

So that's a good thing.

He was in the Oval Office.

Kid Rock?

Yeah, Kid Rock.

Yeah, he was.

He was dressed like Evel Knievel and Evel Knievel's son.

Robbie Knievel, do not forget. Robbie Knievel.
Put some respect on his name. Come on now.
Absolutely secondvel Knievel. And Evel Knievel's son...
Robbie Knievel, do not forget. Put some respect on his name.
Absolutely second generation Knievel. Robbie killed it, too.
Robbie was not like Evel, too. He was awesome.
Robbie killed it. Here's Kid Rock.
No, that is... That's K.R., brother.
He ordered a missile strike. That's Ken Rock.
But they did sign a bill trying to eliminate ticket fraud and scammers. So even obviously with Big Night Out, I did not know the extent of it.
We had no idea what was going to happen with those ticket sales. But it was pretty evident that there was some sort of AI or robots buying tickets before anybody else could get them.
Or there's multiple people with multiple different logins trying to get those and then immediately going up on the secondary market at an up price i think taylor swift had a situation take place where it ended up in the supreme court i think with the entire fraud and the entire thing yeah so this has been a business that people have been taking advantage of uh not only venues and like the fans but also the artists and everything else going on so that would be a big deal I don't know how they regulate it though like we're just talking about AI and Darius who is our certified AI expert these motherfuckers never be able to talk to us because they won't be able to catch our drift you know they won't be able to understand what we're saying in that whole thing but I think they'll always be be able to buy a ticket. You know, like, I think AI will always be able to be a boom.
Here's my credit card and I want it. You're out.
So how do they monitor that? How do they regulate that? Hopefully they get that under control because as somebody who loves going to live events, whenever you see like there's we're selling tickets for 20 bucks to get in. Some of those tickets were hundreds of dollars.
Oh, yeah of dollars oh yeah 500 600 immediately on the secondary market and it's like that's so fucked up for our people like the people that i wanted to get the reason why it's priced that way is because the people that i wanted in you know like i want that crowd in that building yes like that's who i want but instead it goes i mean once again this is my first show, very small sample size, but even we experienced it and felt it. I couldn't even imagine what these big time artists feel about it, you know, and hopefully they do get that said.
A lot in the music industry is kind of having to get figured out or kind of getting sorted right now. The ticketing thing is very, very real.
Comedians as well, obviously. Yeah, and the ownership of everything too.
Like that was the biggest thing for for it feels like a couple years when it came to taylor swift and her owning her own music and then people started selling their entire catalogs you remember that where justin timberlake sold all his music yeah springsteen yeah it's very interesting they can re-record them yes and taylor's version bingo is their own is bigger than like my wife only listens to taylor's version she's like, I'm supporting Taylor. And it's like, hell yeah, good for you.
Good for Taylor. She's getting...
Double. Yeah, double dip.
Which, once again, Taylor Swift is a super genius. And a lot of these artists are great business folks.
So if that was to happen, I think he'd probably win over some folks. Let's go back to the league meetings happening down in Florida.
You know, the Pittsburgh Steelers, talking about business, proposed an ability to chit-chat with the free agents during the tampering period. You know, we had free agency frenzy on ESPN.
ESPN NFL had their free agency frenzy on ESPN, too, at the same exact time. Biggest day of the offseason.
They had their show. We weren't allowed to have anybody from their program on our program.
We're live at the same time. They are, but it's a big deal.
That's just the opening of the tampering period. That's not even the actual free agency period starts, which is on Wednesday at 4 o'clock.
So ESPN viewed the tampering period opening at noon so big that they wanted multiple shows covering it immediately at noon. But the rules of the NFL were that the teams weren't even allowed to talk to the players, the free agent players, that they had negotiated a deal before the tampering period even began.
They talked to their agents, obviously. They were able to get a deal done and everything.
But they weren't able to meet them because it was some reason prohibited. So the Steelers were like, shouldn't we be able to at least chit-chat with these guys we're going to give a hundred and some million dollars to a day before we meet them? And that got passed.
I think probably everybody was feeling that way. Up to five free agents are allowed to chat with starting at the tampering period.
They're also saying it's a way to set up either meetings or medical or whatever the case is. I think it's a good idea.
I think a lot of things that are getting passed right now make common sense. And this is certainly one of them.
Yeah, they're allowed to do one video or phone call with up to five free agents, like you said, during that tampering period that started, I believe, at noon on Monday before the beginning of the league new year. But, yeah, it makes sense.
Like, sure, you could talk to the agent, and the agent could say, yeah, everything's good here. But you would much rather talk to the person who is going to be on the team who is going to be playing for you.
This one, there was a lot of rules that got passed that just made sense and were like, why wasn't this already a thing? And this was probably

one of them. Yeah, I like this.

Yeah. I like this.
I can't

believe this had been happening.

Without it? Yeah. I think this

is one of those ones where I was surprised when I found

out that people weren't talking

to the new team. Yeah, we signed this

guy to $230 million.

Did you talk to him? No,

no, no. Talked to him.
He just said he's a good guy.

He said he's a good guy.

Well, you fucking better hope so. I i mean and then it doesn't happen obviously i'm talking about cleveland but it is a uh this makes a lot of sense i like this yeah you think it'll change for agency at all because like a situation like the patriots with milton williams where you know hey the patriots are out he's signing with the panthers but instead of him flipping back back to New England in that situation where if he is kind of talking to the Panthers on a Zoom call or something, he will even have a chance to call the Patriots back per se because if their one call is over, because then he ends up with the Panthers.
And then do you think some guys, let's say they schedule five people, but you don't even make it to the fifth team and they sign to the first team. Does that call count towards the people that you have kind of slotted as the five? Yeah, and are you spending all five on top money guys? Or is it like second, third wave guys too that you kind of want to chat with that you're paying medium salaries too? There'll be a strategy to all this.
It will be. It always is.
But I'm you. I like it, too.
If you're, especially from a team standpoint, player standpoint, too, team standpoint, I think it was Tom Lerner or someone from the Steelers organization saying, yeah, we just got time to spend intimate time with Aaron Rodgers and get to know him. And if you're investing tens of millions of dollars into a player, into a person, you definitely want to know and have some in-person conversation with that individual.
Yeah, for sure.

Yeah, who is this guy? He's getting paid more than anybody

in our locker room? Yeah. How about

the Steelers signing DK Metcalf

for this deal and then being like, we need to be able to

fucking talk to this guy.

I am sick of this. You know, because the Steelers,

this isn't really their MO. Day one

free agency or anything like that. This is not their

thing. Now they're getting involved in it.
They're like,

you guys have been doing what?

No way! Is that how we're going to be doing this going forward? Have an update here. We talked about Kirk Cousins potentially going to the Cleveland Browns, which has been gaining steam because of Kirk Cousins' relationship with Stefanski.
Hembo, genius, stats, guy from ESPN who we appreciate. He's AI.
He is AI. A bit of AI.
Hembo is an AI. Yeah, he's a human AI.
Him and O's. O's is a demon.
Yeah, Pellicero, I think, is what you're talking about. Yeah, Pellicero's the one that's plugged in.
Yeah, he is. I mean, O's has a little bit of everything.
He's a demon. He's AI.
He's an alien. He's all of it.
He's a freak. He's a little bit of a freak.
Shapeshifter probably. There is a chance he does do a little...
Now you see me. Now you don't type thing.
Anyways, Hembo, the stats AI from ESPN, said Kirk Cousins had a 107.5 passer rating with Kevin Stefanski as his offensive coordinator for the 2018-2019 Vikings. That's the highest playing under any OC of his entire career.
So saying that Stefanski and Kirk Cousins could potentially do well together is with stats backing that up. Highest of Kirk Cousins' careers with Stefanski as the OC.
Does that change anything for you, AJ? You think the Browns are going to pick up Kirk Cousins potentially here in the next month or two? I mean, I think it can't hurt. It definitely changes a little bit.
The fact that they have a history and a past together. Why wouldn't Stefanski want to bring Kirk Cousins in? Now the question is can they pay it? How much more does he owe? Like 80 mil? Something crazy? More than that? I don't know the exact.

I know it's 37.

I think it was 27, then an extra 10 as of March.

I forget the date.

Just a few weeks back.

They can make it work, though, right? They want him.

They can make it work, can't they?

Well, if the Falcons want him out of the building, they can make it work.

The Falcons can pick up a lot of the pay.

That's what happened with the Russell Wilson-Denver Broncos situation

where he goes to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Now, I believe the Broncos, did they cut? Yes.
They cut Russell Wilson. So that was a part of that entire deal with the dead cap.
But it's like, Falcons trading them, you can negotiate how much of the salary you want to pay versus the other team. And what will somebody give up? Will the Cleveland Browns be able to give up? Who knows? Kurtz has to also sign off on it, right? Since he has a no-trade clause.
And he said, what was that, 18, 19?

Yeah, 2018, 2019.

Brady.

Brady's still your quarterback?

Yeah, Brady's in New England, yeah.

What are you saying, dude?

I was just trying to remember what was happening.

He hates Kirk Cousins.

We found that.

I like Kirk.

Why?

Why, dude?

I like Kirk.

I'm talking about football and the players.

We're not making this personal.

We're talking about football.

Oh, no, no.

I bet as a player.

Man, we don't make this personal.

No, we're talking about football. NFL Pro Plus Premium, like me and Bruce are dialed in there.
And the quarterback series, like, I think no one looked better than Kirk Cousins. I feel like Kirk's one of those guys that everyone does like, but boy, did he stink at football last year.
You know? There were some moments there where he looked like he was still struggling from the Achilles and maybe not fully comfortable in the offense. Which is very possible.
So the perfect thing for Cleveland to do would be, hey, let's sink some more money into this quarterback room. And you know what? Andrew Barry and Kevin Stefanski, sure, ownership screwed you.
Instead of drafting a young guy, let's bring in an old guy. And then guess what? If this doesn't work out, you know what? Maybe next year.
Well, it does, from what Haslam said down at the honors meetings, this is what he said. Let's address the elephant in the room.
You know, we took a big swing and miss with Deshaun. We thought we had the quarterback.
We didn't. And we gave up a lot of draft picks to get him.
So we've got to dig ourselves out of that hole. Shouldn't they be held accountable for that to listen i've said this i think numerous times the deshaun watson was a entire organization decision and it ends with d and i so you know hold us accountable hey don't you think andrew barry and stafansky should be held accountable listen i've said this i think before we haven't heard it we've all assumed it was all assumed it was the Haslams that decided to pay Deshaun, which is why Stefanski and Andrew Barry have been given this entire leeway.
Because if you continue to not have success, you would think that they would be looking for turnover. But I think Haslam looks Andrew Barry in the eye and goes, we screwed you over pretty good.
It's the first time he said this public? Well, I don't know how public was that. Did you know he was recording? Yeah, ESPN recorded that is what we were told.
That was an ESPN recording. I believe there was probably no cameras, maybe just audio in that room.
But it did sound like that was a phone under a pocket. ESPN recorded it.
Don't! Please! He's not passing blame. I it, too.
We took a big swing, big miss. It sucks.
We move to see you another day, just like we will see you tomorrow. Goodbye.
But, like, I enjoyed the way he laid that out. Yes.
We took a big swing. Okay? Because think about how good he felt whenever he decided to do this.
Oh, man. Cleveland Browns are no longer in a conversation.
It's either going to be the Falcons or the Saints, allegedly, was the Deshaun Watson market at the time. He wanted out of the Texans, wanted out of the Texans.
He was wearing a green hat one time. He's going to Philadelphia.
Now he's going to the New York Jets. Well, then everything very, very, very serious off the field came around.
And the thought was, well, is this guy still going to be able to get traded? Who cares? Who wants him? Well, he's on a football field. He's unbelievable.
And obviously, there's just allegations at this point. All that happens.
And then the market becomes him and Atlanta and the Saints are his final spots. Cleveland had been ruled out.
And then out of nowhere, Hazlum's walking around his office with his wife. There's a guy available.
We're going to have to take it on Shins a bit. Okay? Top three quarter bet.
jj watt mic'd up clip yeah where he's walking off the field with the sean watson doesn't ask patty says sorry we wasted an fl mvp here i'm so sorry jj watt thinks he's good don't don't don't i mean we should yeah what do you think it's gonna take go to andrew barry what's gonna take andrew barry callsry calls mulageta mulageta goes 230 million dollars fully guaranteed that's a lot andrew barry says back to mulageta mulageta goes so you want him to cleveland or not andrew barry hangs up calls the haslam's office back he said 230 million guaranteed haslam and d go we thought he's gonna say 250 we saved 20 million fucking send it no flubs that because that happened like overnight. It was like a boom, bang, pow, boom.
Gone. Signed.
Biggest deal in history. Most guaranteed money in history.
Oh my god, the entire NFL is now on notice because of what Haslam just did. And it just has not worked out.
At all. On the field, off the field.
Might have said the NFL back fully guaranteed contract. Might have ruined other quarterbacks.
Might have changed that for him. I know Josh Allen just got, what, 250? Something like that.
330. Yeah, fully guaranteed.
But once Deshaun happened, we thought like, oh, yeah, this is, you know, when Lamar's up and this guy's up and that guy's up, and for it to work out like it did. But at that time, you know, you got a top three, four quarterback in his prime, available.
Walking around his office. We did it, D.
I was actually waiting for him in that clip to be like, you know what, now that I think about this, this was kind of D's idea. I was just throwing it.
Look, I said no, but D, she wanted it. Think about barry going in every year to describe the team now well since we're in a deficit 120 million dollars okay this is what everybody else can do remember this is what we have the capability of doing and jimmy's like i get you you know three four years i messed it up i get it i made a big dumb decision but remember in the moment we're gonna win a super bowl yeah in the moment we're going to win a Super Bowl if it worked out, think about it, it was a big swing no question, huge swing so either you're the hero and you find a way to win a Super Bowl or this is probably worst case scenario right, what happened with it no doubt for all parties except for Deshaun all parties except for Deshaun that's why the Shadur at the top just feels like it makes more sense because then you at least give him, like, hey, now you do – now your clock's actually on.
You have three, four years. You have Shadur Sanders.
And the conversation about the draft is how, you know, deep the pass rushers and, you know, the linemen are and the tight ends. It's like, hey, the quarterbacks basically are Cam Ward, Shador, Jackson Dart, it feels like now.
And then kind of the next tier, the tier thing is how we're kind of approaching it when it comes to the group of players. So, I mean, maybe they do do the Carter and Myles Garrett and roll with, you know, Kenny Pickett.
But it does feel like to what Schrager said, hey, if they told Garrett there's a plan and Garrett believes in the plan and that plan does include $40.1 million a year for Myles Garrett, like maybe that is a legitimate choice for them. Yeah, that's a whole different animal there.
Whenever Andrew Barry goes back to Haslam and says, I got bad news again, buddy. What's that, Myles Garrett? Not only is he dunking on me in his statement, but he wants the hell out of here.
And Haslam goes, what's it going to take? So Andrew Barry goes, what's it going to take? $40 million. I'm going to go back.
Send it. Myles Garrett.
Keep him around. And he tried to meet with Haslam.
And Haslam. You talk to Andrew Barry.
Tell Andrew what you need. You tell Andrew what he needs.
He'll call me in a panic. I'll agree to it.
He's seen this game before. What if the Browns win? Hey, good luck, though.
They won't. No chance.
They won't. No chance.
Zero percent. Zero percent zero.
I feel like you say this every offseason. Hey, what if the Browns win? What if the Browns win? That division is hell.
Yeah, but I try to be as optimistic as possible.

Just like I'm optimistic about the Colts.

Holy hell.

The Drios win.

Win what, though?

Yep.

Like the Super Bowl?

Browns make the playoffs.

I'm not saying that's going to happen.

I'm saying what if the Browns make the playoffs with all this conversation?

I mean, you said it.

The Bengals, the Texans, Commanders.

I don't know.

Those teams were making the playoffs before the year that they did.

That's true.

You're right.

Miles Garrett, too.

A little bit more ownership of the Browns.

Not that he didn't have it before, but he's recharged.

Yeah, we saw him on the in-season hard knocks Texan in the meeting room.

That's a good point.

He was down in.

He's playing Candy Crush.

It's a good game.

It's a good game.

It is a good game.

I mean, look at the success of the number two picks the last couple years.

Exactly.

TJ.

Good luck.

Jaden.

Shador.

That was a thing.

The Browns are definitely taking a quarterback at two.

That was like two weeks ago.

That was Mary Kay Cabot said that, yeah.

She said they might take two in the first round.

They're trading back in to get another quarterback in the first round.

Yeah.

Mary Kay's been covering the Browns a long time. Long time.
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With that being said, you've got to watch it. That was a pundit hat.
You've got to watch it. She put her pundit hat on.
It's always tough for the insiders. Hey, the goalpost got me.
The goalpost got me, no joke. I was like, I don't know how they're going to do it.
It's going to obstruct some views from people in the end zone. I don't know how the ball maybe it'll block a few extra things, but hey, why not? I'll go watch.
The thing I was thinking is that thing was a little bit wider. But what if they have palm trees that go in? You've got to make sure those palm trees are going out.
We need to keep the top clip tight. And sell seats.
Sell seats on the crossbar, too. Make it wide so people can sit there and watch the game.
It's like the camera. If the ball hits them, it's good.
Okay, I like that. And people can actually bat it in.
Yeah. They could hang underneath like a roller coaster.
Like beer pong. Yeah, it hits the rim.
Boom. Knock it out.
They can bat it in. It's not a bad idea.
I mean, are we trying to get people to the game or not not? Are we trying to grow the game or not? This isn't Pitbull Stadium, is it? No. It's FIU, right? FIU, correct.
Because he's Mr. Worldwide for the International University.
Yes. Oh, yeah.
Pitbull Stadium. Got an addition to the Thunderdome.
AJ, I don't know if you saw it on the wide shot. I don't know if it was here yesterday when you were here.
I have no idea. No.
Oh, no. This was coming.
This was on the way. I didn't get to see it.
Yeah. That's the puncher power thing.
You guys been doing it? Hit it a couple times this morning. Bruce, who is a trained boxer, if you do recall.
Oh, okay. Hit a 921 on that thing.
I was not here for it, but he had to give it a good thump.

I banged it a little bit.

I'm a little worried, though. I'm a little worried

it might be 11, but we're going to have to reset it.

Hit one,

eight-something, let's say.

Hit one,

nine-something, and then I really laid

into it. I mean, the last one was by

far the cleanest rattle

and put full ass into it. And it was like 801, like lowest.
And I'm like, uh-oh. Can't have that.
Get that thing calibrated. Needs to be calibrated.
Can you kick it? Can you get your leg up there and kick it? That'd be sweet. What's that? I think it's currently calibrated.
It's been dancing this whole fucking time. I know it needs to figure it out.
It looks cool. It does look cool.
Yeah, it is sweet. Kicking, it's going to be tough, I think, unless you do one of the...
Also, in my algorithm as of late, I think it's karate. They go through the boards where they run, get tossed, and then they hutchie, and then they land it.
They get tossed? Tossed. Oh, I haven't seen that.
Thrown up. Galloping like a clean run, and then they catch somebody, and then boom, they're in the sky.
They're doing four-time one of these through a board that's being held up on a pillar. So now.
I've seen that. It's nuts.
I didn't see that. I've said this before, but back in the day, you had a friend that knew karate.
You were okay in most places. Without a doubt.
But now with the mixed martial arts thing, the karate one is going to need more. We're going to need more than just karate.
Be the raster. Really? I don't know.
Jiu-jitsu, I'll get you down. Yeah, I'll take a jiu-jitsu, taekwondo, black belt.
Yeah, what you're saying is all the other ones. Karate, good to have in the arsenal.
Back pocket can, hey! Until you go to the ground, though. Karate's not going to help you on the ground.
Yeah, I'm worried about the MMA. The cauliflower area.
Yeah, because they're going down to bottom, and you're going through that board in there. I think karate, good to have with you.
Sure. But I think you need more.
What i what i'm saying is if i got a black belt in karate with me i'm pumped to be with a ninja i'm pumped but i do know that if we get to somebody that has ground and pound capabilities we're both fucked okay now if karate person also has ground and pound another belt oh yeah now we're in a great need multiple belts now to be completely safe in a lot of places but with that being said when i saw the flying karate kits we're back oh yeah because you know the cauliflower you want to go ground and pound if you got a karate friend you need to take it to the sky yeah oh yeah okay so that is what i learned from my algo and uh you just gotta got to know where you're at. You got to know who you're with.
Got a karate guy? Start practicing this one. If you get his ass up in the sky from what I have seen, like a cat, land on their fucking feet and while in sky, precision.
You got a chance. And it's loud, too.
There's a lot of yelling.

I'm sure it has a lot of good carryover in any real combat situation.

Guy up on a ledge at a bar. Yep.

Throws a bottle down at you.

Okay? Okay. You dodge bottle,

obviously, because you're with a guy who knows

karate, and he has the

seventh sense to let you know that that's

the case. You turn.
You see him. He goes,

What? Your karate friend? I can't! You assemble. the seventh sense yes to let you know that that's the case you turn you see him he goes what your

karate friend you assemble okay you in the lads put your drinks down for a second you're not throwing bottles back obviously but karate guy karate friend karate man runs you cheerleader toss up and that guy up on the bar goes from this to that,

and he's out.

And that's, hey, now we're doing two-story fighting,

and that's what it's like when you're in the sky with a karate guy.

You need to animate it right there.

I mean, yeah, now I'm rethinking it.

You're right.

Time for the high kick!

And they run over there.

The issue is if you don't have a ground in Ponder, you do have to go to places that have two stories. Yeah, exactly.
That's a big part of the group. Only two-story places.
Can't be one of those shithole bars that has a real low roof. No, no.
That is not where you want to be. We're screwed.
We are screwed. Every karate high flyer knows a ground and pounder.
So it's like they're basically a package deal. Okay.
You better hope so. If not, need to stay on the lower level of a multi-level bar.
Sure. Because they're never going to expect coming out.
But what if he's on the third store and he jumps down to the first and kicks him from there? Doesn't need boosted. Is he...
Are we fighting a karate kid as well? We didn't know that was the case. No, our karate kid sees our target down to the first level kicks him from there doesn't need boosted is he are we fighting a karate kid as well we didn't know that was no our karate kid our karate kid sees our target down the first level he's on a third level jumps off the balcony he doesn't need your help to boost are we doing that maybe he's got his eyes he's our spotter he's what you're saying he's like our sniper he's jack ryan up in the tower then you become the filmer the guy who's tossing yeah you need to get that on film yeah i got the camera then yeah i need to get that on film especially Yeah, I got the camera then.
Yeah, I need to get that on film,

especially if a guy's coming down from three stories, 30 feet,

and he comes through, glides through the...

Maybe a front flip.

Oh, my God.

Lands it easy.

There's like a parkour roll to land.

I do enjoy the parkour.

That's been in my timeline, too.

I've seen this guy do a...

He did a double McTwisty sideways flip thing.

A Benson Boone, I'll call it.

Okay.

He's doing a lot of those.

Yeah.

I'm going was rocks. I think there was rocks on both sides.
It's like, what's wrong with? Oh, yeah, they die. And i said happens no no i know but i'm saying those guys are unbelievable they'll jump super high and they have weight like they use their their body to like absorb the landing and then roll out of it like they're they're freaks they're legit they use it every day in everyday situations i would seems like it's what it's for if you're a parkour god yeah if i had that it'd be fuck yeah yeah jockey chan Remember, he used to get out of everywhere.
There was a wall. I don't think so.
He saw stairs. Pump, pump, pump, pump, bang.
He's the GOAT. Yeah.
He is the GOAT. Him and Tom.
Yeah. Jackie's still doing it? Oh, yeah.
He's in more Karate Kid movies coming out. Killing it.
Karate Kid Legends. Jackie Chan.
Oh, shit. Trailer actually dropped today, I think.
You know the best thing about those Jackie Chan movies? We're all going to say it. The credits.
Oh, yeah. The outtakes? Yeah.
Yeah. The fact that he did his own stunts.
Well, that... Yeah.
You see a lot more of the stunts. Never see a Jackie Chan movie, D-Bow? I only stay for the credits of Marvel movies.
This is unbelievable. Rush Hour? Just watch Rush Hour.
This guy disrespects every movie. I watched Rush Hour the other day, too.
I watched it this weekend. It was on.
weekend It was on Yes Yeah I loved it I was trying to guess the I was trying to guess the characters Like do I still know Because very early There's a boat war fight Oh yeah Jun Tao First Jun Tao Yeah shows up with the hair He goes I'm looking for Jun Tao And then he goes Why are you looking for me And then boom it's off And I'm like Oh Yeah we're back in it And I don't think my wife had seen Rush Hour, which was a full. What are we doing here? Great movie.
What? Conversation that happened between us. Had to pause it actually to have a how does that happen? How does that one slip through the cracks? We get there.
I haven't seen the Desi movie, so I guess she had a lot to say back. We press play to that thing.
I forgot. So good.
So that's a good one. They're on Rush Hour 2 also holds up.
Very good. But you need to stay for the credits.
Remember? That's what they're all laughing at. Jackie and Jackie.
Why are the Marvel movies? Well, you got to post-credits. You got to see what's coming next.
They introduce different characters. Yes, they do.
Whose voice is that? Just some superhero fan. Cody Rhodes loves me, basically.
Who was it? Was that Shady who was running up and down giving spoilers for Marvel movies? He became my favorite human when I heard they hated him on Twitter. Hey, I got to see Blank early.
It was wild. I can't believe Iron Man died.
He said, I'm like the Wednesday before the movie came out and people were not happy. That happened to Hulk as well.
Mark Ruffalo was doing an interview before the Infinity War and he's like, just wait. Everybody dies.
And then he, oh! Was I not supposed to say that? They were not happy with him. So now the superhero world is not as strong as it once was though, right? It's coming back.
It is. Who is that? With deeper wars.
That's a superhero. They're bringing back all the main guys.
Really? I saw a video the other day where they were just panning out. Yeah.
All the man's are coming back. A lot of the main guys.
And they also made Iron Man a different character now so Robert Downey Jr. is back as well.
He's a bad guy now. Dr.
Doom, you could say. Are they going to bring...
Are they going to bring... What do you want to talk about, Marvel Universe? Okay.
I wasn't doing that. Oh, I thought you were.
That's unbelievable. What is this guy doing? Tony Roach dropped John Cena last night.
He did. Did he? I don't know.
Cena was cooking, fam.

He was.

He was.

He was burying.

Yeah.

I like how Cody did a little B-rap.

Of course, I grew up in a trailer park.

And yeah, he did fuck my girl.

He did do that.

I like that.

What were you going to say about Marvel?

Oh, they should bring Snow White in.

Oh, it turns out.

What do you mean? They should bring Zegler into one of these Marvel things and just have it happen. They canceled all her stuff, actually.
No, but that's what I'm saying. Could do it in a way.
If Disney owns Marvel, Disney could really get what they paid for out of Snow White. Drop her in a Marvel universe.
What's going on here? Hagen's cut off. And somebody just, all right.
Yeah. And then just keep it walking.
Yeah. It's not a bad idea.
That'd be a good little self. IMDb? One point something? Yeah.
Yeah. Setting up to be the biggest.
How is that even? Well, I'm guessing that's a lot of people who haven't seen the movie, but they're not exactly okay with what's going on around the movie, so they just go right in and say, oh, this one, I think this is zero out of check. Who gets to vote on those? Anybody.
Okay. I thought that was potentially people that were...
No, that happens a lot. It's the lowest score of all time.
Snow White? Snow White, the new Snow White? Is that what you're talking about? Yeah. It's not out yet.
What about Rotten Tomatoes? What have they done? I think it was super juicy. Why don't people like it? What happened? Certified Fresh.
You know exactly what happened and it does suck because those movies do do well. Always.
40% on those. Is that good? Is 40% good? Nah, I'd be rotten, but it's not terrible.
It's not 1.7 bad. I think dropping Snow White in a Marvel movie would be good.
That'd be cool. Or like a John Wick.
She's just out of arena, killing a bunch of people. Yeah, maybe.
The Counting 2 is coming out, Ben Affleck. That looks good.
I love the first one. He was a killer, sniper, mercenary type guy.
He had to do

media for that. He was talking about a lot of things.

Oh, he was. I didn't see that.

Yeah, John Bernthal. Let's go.

Oh, John Bernthal's legit.

There's another movie somebody's in that

we're...

Modeling the TV show. There it is.

Yeah, Bruce was talking about it. Is that good?

Pierce Brosnan.

Tom Hardy.

Hey, speaking of good, Jameis Winston bat 1,000 as New York Giants quarterback. We have a clip of him describing what life could be like if they play football well.
Winning, for me, in the NFL, it's required for this organization to start winning so we can have more giggles, more laughter, more fun in this building. Like, we in the NFL.
It's required for this organization to start winning, you know, so we can have more giggles, more laughter, more fun in this building. Like, we're the biggest city of the world.
We should enjoy that. And I think winning does that.
So when it comes to looking at their record, I didn't look at this team being a 3-14 team. I looked at what was possible.
And what I saw was possible is an offense that can execute efficiently and that can be explosive. I saw a defense with an incredible front.
And I saw this offseason of them adding Paulson Adebo and Javon Holland in the back end to create some noise to help that front get home. And I just figured that the Giants, man, they don't look like a 3-14 team.

From the talks of, you know, people talking about, I know Kayvon, I know Byron a little bit, and Dex. Like, from their talks and their conversations, like, the locker room didn't seem like it was a 3-14 team.
So this team is looking for a complete paradigm shift. This team is looking to make a splash, man.
And there's no better place to do it with no greater calling to do it than right here in New York City being a New York football giant. Hell yeah.
He said that in New Jersey, obviously, but the point remains. Is there more giggles around the corner with a paradigm shift? Bruce Brown, noted New York Giants fan.
More giggles, more laughter, more fun. I'm going to my third parade, boys.

I hope to see you all there.

I can't wait.

This fired me up.

I absolutely love Jameis.

I'm excited for Russ whenever he does his presser as well,

just to see that dynamic.

And then, you know, there was Shador talking about it, too,

that he might be getting, I think Deion said he might be getting baptized pregame in the pregame speeches.

So things are looking up.

I'm fired up. As you should be.
Hell yeah. Yankees still doing good? Yeah, still undefeated.
Had an off day yesterday. They got the Arizona Dimebacks coming at the time of the night.
You guys are already taking off days, huh? Wow. Huh.
I didn't know that. What the hell? I thought baseball was every day for 163 days.
I mean, it was up to the Yankees. They'd play every day.
They'd play 200 games. That's right.
You know? But I don't know. A lot of people in those seats.
That's a long flight for the Diamondbacks. A lot of people.
A lot of people in those seats. How many doubleheaders do they have now? Like, how many doubleheaders do they have? None, unless there's, like, rainouts.
Really? They don't schedule them anymore? No. Nah, it's not fucking high school baseball.
Come on. Why not? Knock two out one day.
Let's do it. Yeah, let's play two five-inning games.
It'd be fucking nuts if there's a rain out, maybe. It says it's fucking 12-year-old AAU baseball.
We're not playing doubleheaders. This is New York Yankees.
What do you want to run and clock to in football, Bob? Oh, no, not in football. But no, I tell you what, the old baseball doubleheader, that's a great day for some people.
Some people go to both games. That's right.
A session, maybe. You could just get two games for one ticket.
That would be good for a family. Then give them a day off the next day, obviously.
Let the boys rest. Just had two.
What is the – whenever there's a cancellation or a delay, is it a shorter game or they play two nine-inning games? No, yeah, two nine-inning games. COVID, they did the seven.
Seven? Yeah, correct. To jam in 60-some games.
Yeah. Did we like it better or no? No.
When is Giancarlo Stanton back? As soon as he can move his elbows. So we don't know.
He's actually started picking up a bat and swinging it again, which is huge. Two of them? Maybe he does two torpedo.
Are you allowed to have two torpedo bats in the batter's box? Yeah, you just got to stay on the plate. They might let him do it.
Having two of those would be sweet. I guess you'd want to swing those sideways.
Yeah. So you get double the – you wouldn't want to swing those.
Exactly. Yeah.
Would you be early or late? I don't know. Yeah.
Would you want to be early and late or would you want to be side by side? Would you want to be – Here we go. Early or late.
Early or late. Would you want to be bang-pong like one of those? I think you'd want to double stack them.
You want this down here? Yeah, because guess what? You're making contact a whole hell of a lot right there. You're trying to act sideways like that.
You could also start like X here, and then boom, boom, like that. What's that? I'm pretty confident.
I'm standing behind him. No, no, no.
Are you just standing like this? You're them down here like this. Okay.
And you're coming out. Pa-pa! What? What are you? Where am I standing? Might have to come in.
No, no. You're standing all in the plate, brother.
Yeah, you're standing behind. Just your meat right there in the strike zone.
Yeah, your face is the picture. So I'm standing right there.
Okay, you're coming to the dude here. And you're crossing them up.
Yep. And then.
Pa-pa! Pooh! Pooh. The only problem...
Two balls coming? If you don't make contact, you're either wearing a 100-mile-an-hour fastball on the chin or to the tip of the penis. Take your base.
Listen. Take your base.
Yeah, my OPS should be unbelievable. We're right in the middle of Chesson.
The baseball needs to embrace the bait and let two torpedo bats be in one guy's hand. One night.
Let them try it one night. We need one of theanas.
Yeah, exactly. You need the bananas to do it.
There we go. Let the bananas do it.
Let those jerk-offs do it. Jerk-offs.
That's great. Hey, son of a bitch.
Fucking stadium. Son of a bitch.
Have some respect. I have no ill will towards the bananas.
Sounds like shit. Oh, okay.
I just got it in the moment. Because their brain of baseball is kind of jerk- jerk off, jack off baseball.
It's a show. I get it.
I get it. How about when old guys, how about when they catch it through the legs? Some of the shit they do is wildly impressive.
Yes. I mean, it really is.
Because there's no way they can set anything up, right? Not really. I mean, it's a live baseball game.
It's pretty's pretty tough to you know those mlb pitchers are so locked in they need so many breaths they need their entire thing i'm watching these bananas pitchers and they're doing full hey boom bang and then they're coming in there right into it and 12 to 6. yeah break it off banana guy breaks his shit.
Guy comes in with two stilts on two stilts and this backflip pitcher and then he's throwing underhanded the other way. Straight! I mean, I don't know how these guys aren't getting looks, first of all.
Well, it's because these guys are throwing about 84 miles an hour. What? Look at this.
Look at the ump even. The ref's even bopping a little bit.
Is that ref seven foot three? He's part of the show. And hold it.
Straight. That was a foul.
That was a foul. I did it again right now.
Don't love the ref. Don't love the ump.
No, he's a part of it. That's dancing ump.
He's got good, good moxie. The dump? Yeah, because I did a Monday Night Raw at Savannah, Georgia.
And some of the Bananis were there. Yeah, he caught it.
And look, he just threw it under his fucking leg. Yes! That was this.
He did this one right here. Yeah, you're right.
How slow is that guy? Behind the back, bang, through the legs, double play. Savani Bananis.
Wow. They're doing it.
I agree. Is that Omp a ninja at first base? He's wearing a full face mask thing? He got kids in the cracks.
Yeah, sick! They definitely can't be doing it. What a play.
Give me that, he says. They were losing, too.
The Bananis? They're Yeah, but because they did the behind-the-back snag in between the legs throw, they got five runs in one. Which they should.
Which maybe MLB should think about. Maybe instituting some of the Banani rules.
We got the torpedo bats. Let's keep the Mickey Mouse shit for the Savannah Bananas.
They could keep dancing, waving their poopers everywhere and grabbing their penises after the fucking inning's over. The dancing ump, though, I would say he was right behind me for Raw.
He's got it. I bet.
I don't mind this guy. He's got good swag.
He's bringing the move. I'm out on the dump.
He's not a dumpire. He is the dancing umpire.
Which is the dumpire. Oh, oh, oh.
Look, let's kind of get this game reined in a little bit. Dancing umpire.
You got it. The dump is a big time.
Look at me. Oh, he's running the show.
Yeah, if I've ever seen him. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
He's a professional salsa dancer. Making it about himself.

No, he's passing time. Another pitcher's warming up.

We're here to watch the

party nutjobs.

We're not here to watch the dump.

Well, he's got to have eyes all over the park.

If somebody catches it, it's an ad. That's a good point.

In the stands. That can end the game.

Everybody thinks this umpire's making a joke

of the game. He said he's got a harder job than these

fuckers doing the MLB. I disagree.
He's got to pay attention to the dance moves. He is the show.
He thinks he is. They don't have the box to tell him if it's a strike or a ball.
He's got to call that thing freehand. They don't have strikes and balls, I thought.
It was like, misses and almost hit it. Something like that.
On that note, I think we're done here. We need to go to a game.
Anyone in there been to a game? Mitt went to the whole three-game set, ran bases afterwards. Spent the whole weekend with the bananas.
I was about to get the game winner, but it hit him right in the mouth. He lost two teeth.
Yeah, that's why he talks the way he does. Z, hey, how was it? Z, it was a good show, wasn't it? Yeah, it was absolutely amazing.
It's a good show. It was so, like, no seat empty.
It's insane. I got respect.
I got respect for the show they put on. Kids would love it.
Trust me. Yeah, kids would absolutely love it.
Well, it's like Harlem Globetrotters, but for baseball. Yeah, exactly.
It's cool. Sold out of football stadium.
No, yeah. What they do is wildly impressive.
It is. It's just, like, I love baseball.
I'd rather go watch a regular baseball game than all that.

Is it all ex-college baseball guys?

Mostly, I think.

Because some of these guys, you can't just be like a fucking scrub.

I mean, they still got guys throwing – it's still like an actual decent baseball product.

Yeah, like – so, yeah, I don't think they have any beer league guys out there.

It's mostly guys who probably played like high D1 baseball.

Maybe they should test out some stuff for the MLB.

I don't think so.

We're going to... think they have any, you know, beer league guys out there.
It's mostly guys who probably played like high D1 baseball. Maybe they should test out some stuff for the MLB.
I don't think so. We got the torpedo bats right now.
I think that's a good start. I see one pitcher pitching from both sides.
Yes. Seattle? Yep.
That was crazy. Did he make the team? I don't know if he made the team.
I'm not sure. He had the glove that was able to get on both hands? Dual web, yeah.
On like 95 both sides. Yeah.
Love that. Yeah, he was a beast.
He would have to deem it before each batter? No. In between pitches? You can switch? He could, but it'd be mostly like, you know, if a lefty was up, he'd probably pitch left-handed.
If a righty was up, he'd throw right-handed. But in middle of count, can he switch? He could, yeah.
He could throw left, right, left,right, left-right every pitch if he wanted to. That'd be so...
The Savannah Bananis need him. They do.
He needs to reset the market. Well, Shohei was supposed to do that, but they won't let him pitch because he's too good of a hitter.
You could pitch back-to-back days if you're going righty-lefty, couldn't you? Oh, yeah. If you say, this day I'm pitching righty on Monday, on Tuesday I'm pitching lefty.
I'm going complete game both days. Yeah, you're back when it hurt at all.
Double Tommy gone. Is this the guy? Yeah, this is the guy.
Is this old? No, this is the same club I saw, so he threw that one lefty, right? This is preseasonseason bottom of the fifth here yeah five two they're down so nice switch the glove over the other hand yeah i was a righty let's see is this live action or is this pre-season no i think this was uh spring training right yeah this is spring training this is a clip i saw yeah so now he's just right where's it why is the spring training kind of cold? Where are they? Arizona. That's pretty sweet.
That'd be fun to be able to do. I grew up with a kid on my travel baseball team that did that.
Matt Witt. Literally out of nowhere.
I got it out of nowhere. You okay? I'm just waiting.
I don't know if we're taking a break. I don't know if pants Alright Ty If I make this Oh no Oh no Shoot one Hey actually go punch one Punch one What did he eat this morning? Oh I don't know Noodles Yeah, I had See how hard he eats.
Yeah, he's a punch one. What did he eat this morning, Carter? Ooh, I don't know.
He had a kid. Noodles.
He had noodles. Oh, yeah, noodles.
Noodles and company, and he had a jumbo coffee. Jumbo coffee.
But this is normally from last night. This is normally.
Yeah. The one in the middle of the show is normally.
Last night, it ate my bladder. You see, Keenan responded.
Keenan said, I don't know what that was all about. He said, give me God's country as if we're not under the umbrella of God up here.
It's like maybe he was just saying, give me home. Oh, like from Keenan and Kel? Yeah.
He's been on SNL for what, 30 years? A long time. He's been the longest for sure.
Morgan didn't want to go to the after party. Well, I think Morgan just saw the exit.
Well, they said he's been on the show before, and the last time he did not do that. I was like, okay, well, I didn't remember that or no.
We want to get home to his boy. We want to get home to his boy.
Hey, he's got a little baby boy. He's got a better boy.
He's got a son. He's got a boy.
Okay, got a little bit of heat. Not heat.
Got a little bit of a situation brewing. Jerry Jones at the honors meeting said, you know, he's not worried about the contract with Micah Parsons.
Then there was a report that there was a contract offered to Micah Parsons. Clarence Hill Jr., Jerry Jones with blatant disrespect to Micah Parsons, agent David Muligeta.
The agent is not a concern here. I don't know his name.
Muligeta is one of the best and most respected agents in the NFL. Of course it is let's scroll up here now to the response here from micah facts david is the best and i will not be doing any deal without mulgetta involved like anyone with good sense i hired experts for a reason there's no one i trust more when it comes to negotiating contracts than david there will be no back doors in his contract negotiation because allegedly jerry He'd to Micah and his agent wasn't involved, his agent being Mulageta.
Jerry's saying he doesn't know the name of his agent. It's interesting because Mulageta, he's the one.
Every position group, basically, he's the one that has the biggest contract at that position group. He was the one behind the Deshaun Watson deal.
He was the one behind both DB deals that got signed this particular offseason.

I believe wide receiver.

You can go through it.

Moola Getz is the guy.

He is an absolute dog when it comes to this.

Is there a little heat?

Jerry Jones saying, I don't know this guy's name.

That's crazy. Yeah, that is.

And him even being offered the contract behind the agents back. If that's true, I hope this isn't an April 1 type situation.
Doesn't look like it, but that's wild. And then to say you don't know the agent, I believe he's been repping Micah for at least a couple years now because I can remember offseason where him and Stroud were doing some offseason shit.
Yeah, well, exactly. Like, how would you know? Does he have CD or Trevon Diggs or any of those guys? I would assume that he has at least one of them.
Yeah, even if he didn't know. Like, Jerry Jones, like, yeah, you know.
Jerry's letting them know, hey, I'm in charge here, bud. Yeah, I've been in the league a lot longer than this David fellow.
We know, Jerry. So that's good.
Anytime that type of shit pops off. That's cowboys.
You know, that's classic. That's good.
This is is just like T Higgins put a cap thing out there you know remember Duke at the combine said that ideally we'll get this and Jamar Chase will be the highest paid non and we want this and then somebody put a tweet out saying cap Miles Garrett wanted out he didn't want in there and then money comes around and it all gets sorted and Micah Parsons has always wanted to be a cowboy even whenever he was a kid. That's what will happen here.
He'll get 40.2 a year and reset the market again. And I think Jerry said something along the lines of, I don't care if I have to pay more.
I just want to get it right. Something along those lines.
Jerry is one that normally has to pay more because he delays and delays and delays. And then inevitably, a deal gets done.
Did it with Dak? Did it with CDd i assume there's others just within the last year that has taken place and micah will probably be the next one on the board to get that done with miles garrett signing the deal that he signed obviously that affects a lot of people trey hendrickson tj watt micah parsons a lot of people that get to the quarterback for a living are now wondering well what's uh what's my number going to be have we heard anything about t.J. Watt and the Pittsburgh Steelers? No, they talked about it.
They were asked about it at the league meetings, and they said they want T.J. to be a one-helmet player, and then it'll get done.
And it feels like there's not really a super rush right now, but it'll get done. Yeah, and Trey Hendrickson, what's going on there, A.J.? Do you know anything in Ohio? What's going on? I do not do not know.
I definitely think TJ, they have to get that done. But with Trey, I don't feel as confident that the Bengals are going to bring him back and they're going to find a way.
Yeah, I don't. It got quiet.
It's weird, yeah. We're in a quiet period.
The last one, though, was after Trey. I mean, Trey deserves a bunch of money.
So, like, they want, like, they. For sure.
Yeah, rightfully so. He wants a lot wants a lot 30 years old last big one you know last opportunity for a big contract probably i mean who knows maybe four years from now when he's 34 he's still going as strong as he is right now but he's coming fresh off the sack king title 30 years old and uh i think what he told us was been delaying this now for multiple years to kind of hopefully get a deal done hopefully they're able to do that you know cincinnati's paying folks they're figuring it out teddy cares that's good right we like that yeah i love ted it's cool he's the man who do he's hilarious that clip of him at the at the uh parade deal when they're trying to get him to cry about football or something emotional about thes opening day.
Like his answer. Yeah, Ted is always awesome.
Ted, you know, you come here a couple years ago. Now you're in a parade and, you know, you're giving back a lot to the city.
Do you get a little bit emotional whenever you think about it all? Yeah, I get emotional. I'm pumped up.
It's the Reds. We need a big win.
Just like constant good vibes. Yeah, great merch too.
The Cincy Red stuff that he had. The Cincy hat.
Yeah, the hats. There he is.
Ladies and gentlemen. Okay.
Go ahead, Ty. Take a swing.
You going to make it to a red game, AJ? You should take a swing. I sure hope so.
Yes. I will.
There we go. Ty Schmidt, fresh out of a dump.
Make sure you hit close to where the black pad is at above the ball there.

You're going to want to hit, yeah.

Yeah, because if you hit low, it's not going to go great.

You hit high, it's going to hurt.

Let's throw a burner.

Fresh out of a dump, I'm going to say.

Pretty good.

That was a great punch.

Whoa.

That up, baby.

Nice.

8.33.

Good work.

Who got 9.21? That was Bruce. Bruce Lefty got that 9.21.
Bruce Mayweather. I didn't see it.
Big body Bruce. I would love to see Bruce throw a punch left-handed like that.
I know he's got a candidate. They call him Francis Ngannou.
It was righty. I do think I could get a left hook up there, too, though.
Okay, we got time. We got time with this thing.
It's not just wear it out day one. Yeah, exactly.
All right, let's get the hell out of here. It's been a hell of a day.
Ty, how was the dump? Pretty good, pal? Yeah, it kind of sounded like I just lit off a book of black cats. Sure.
And it sounds quick, but it was pretty explosive. Yeah, sure.
Not M80s. No, black cats.
Yeah, certainly. Who's could do? Who's could do? 100 pounds.
What happened here? You got through that. Yeah, it was shiitake mushrooms this morning.
We were playing no games. Okay, so you think it was a shiitake mushroom.
I don't know if it was last night's operation. No, no.
No, certainly not last night. You ate something that was...
Didn't have anything last night. I'm kind of a one-meal-a-day guy now.
Really? Yeah. Well, whenever you lose you lose it that quickly though you might need to replenish well i should have known i haven't had noodles in quite some time and you know some of those more exotic dishes if you will yeah sometimes you know a lot of a lot of sesame seeds in there spice a lot of different spices you know i don't exactly know what sauce they have on there.
Probably some peanut oil, some chili powder, that kind of stuff. Cayenne pepper.
Cayenne pepper, maybe. And then, of course, the...
Is that the accent? Have we got any gator? I don't think... You got any gator.
Jeff Landry's full of shit. I knew he would.
Oh, whoa! You better watch your fucking mouth. I'm going to go to Jeff Landry.
Bruce is saying we did.

We did?

Jeff Landry sent some gator?

I'll take it back.

I'll take it back.

Yeah, we got gator fillets in the freezer.

Jeff Landry didn't do one of these.

We got gator fillets?

Yeah.

Jeff Landry did one of these.

Yeah.

You all love the gator, but I don't think you will, boy.

I don't think so.

You don't know nothing about that black shirt defense, boy.

Nebraska.

Yeah, that was an interesting moment.

That was a shit.

It's enough.

You probably don't.

Hey, that's a fucking no, boy.

With the accent.

Hulk Hogan.

All right.

All right.

What about that?

That was a whole other scene.

What did you say about Hulk Hogan?

What are you talking about him? Well, Hulk Hogan, there's another moment. Anytime people start doing this one here, it's an interesting timing.
Okay. Whoa.
You put yourself... I can't wait to have that gator.
Can't wait. Can't wait to have that gator.
Had a couple of bison burgers the other day. Sure.
That was pretty good. It's good lean meat The beef The sundae beef roast Over there in England was really good They had the carrots in there and shit Green peas The roast beast I don't know if they have steak knives over there Really? No, you have to use swords for their teeth.
Well. Whatever the case, the butter knife that I had was just ragdolling this beef.
I mean, it was boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. It was like I was just rolling this thing back and forth.
But once I ate it, it was so good. It was delicious.
Shout out to England. Shout out to Scotland.
Shout out to WWE. That was a hell of a night.
And shout out to all you boys. Alright.
We'll be back tomorrow. What's happening tonight? A lot of big stuff tonight.
Let's make sure we pay attention. Got some basketball.
Got some hockey. Ovechkin continuing his run to the goal record.
They're playing the Bruins. So I would expect the Capitals to maybe Ovechkin put in two or three, perhaps.
What's that all about? You just got a shout-out by Luchic. Yeah, Luch, my guy, of course.
But, unfortunately, we're a long way from Milan Luchic, you know, kind of patrolling the ice, you know? Right now, we're in a officially, hey, we're on a next season. Let's go Celtics.
Aren't the Bruins doing good still? Are the Bruins good or no? I think they lost eight straight. They're so bad.
Oh, the hockey gods because of the trade of Marshawn. So after Marshawn got traded, we go on.
We beat the Panthers without Marshawn. Hell of a win.
He's not on either side. And then the hockey gods said, okay, now it's time to bury the hatchet.
Let's go Celtics. NBA playoffs start next week.
Congrats to you guys. Pacers are hot.
Down 16 last night against the Kings. And Tyrese and the boys lead a massive comeback.
NBA playoffs next week. I believe the last day of the regular season is Tuesday.
And then the play-in game starts maybe Thursday or Friday. Big night out next Wednesday.
The Masters next weekend. Oh, yeah.
We're here. Let's go.
We did it. Yeah.
I'm glad we're talking baseball this week. Right, boys? Mm-hmm.
I think we're going to keep talking baseball. Mm-hmm.
Don't you think? Yeah. Shall we do? I think we might.
The Reds dominating. Yeah.
Are they? Yeah. Yeah.
You saw the clips from last night? Four hits,

two home runs? That's right.

Terry Francona at the helm?

Are you kidding me? He's a winner.

I'm going to try. I'll tell you that much.
I will genuinely try. Red Sox are supposed to be good.

Okay. Where's my

baseball?

What baseball highlights in there? Homers, homers,

homers, homers. Torpedo bats.

Easy. Gold gloves.

Torpedo bats makes it use

some other things.

Don't send me any penises.

All right.

We're back tomorrow.

Great work, Eric.

I just told it on to.

It'll listen.

Remember?

Conversation.

Yeah.

No penises.

It hurt me.

All right.

Be a friend.

Tell a friend something nice.

It might change your life.

We're in this thing together.

Team on me.

Team on three. One, two, three.
Team. Team.
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