PMS 2.0 1313 - John Calipari, Maryland Freshman Phenom Derik Queen, Dick Vitale, & Darius Butler

Speaker 1 Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this Are You Serious Tuesday, March 25th, 2025? This program starts now.

Speaker 1 Spores are fantastic, and today we get a chance to talk about a lot of them. Now, obviously, March Madness is still taking place with the Sweet 16 tipping off on Thursday.

Speaker 1 We'll have Coach Calapari of the Arkansas, you know,

Speaker 1 Pig Sue.

Speaker 1 Fine folks over there in Arkansas. Have had a lot of Arkansas

Speaker 1 tell me.

Speaker 3 Nailed it.

Speaker 1 I'll go. That's it.
That's what they are. That's it.
Tell me that we are a disgrace to the Woo Pig Sueys whenever we do it on this particular program.

Speaker 1 I'd like to let you know. We think we're crushing it.

Speaker 1 So the next time we get out to Arkansas, which will hopefully be sooner than later, obviously you've been out there for a couple boozing evenings and a golf event.

Speaker 1 And they have a legendary alumni over there. If you think about, you know, Jerry Jones, Walmart, John Daly, you're talking about a lot of people that are in on sports over there.

Speaker 1 So next time we go out there, maybe we'll learn the Woo Pig Sue thing a little bit better. But Western Pennsylvania, Pittsburgh Paison, John Calapari, will be joining us in about 14 minutes or so.

Speaker 1 Cannot wait to chat about their next round. You know, this is another team.

Speaker 1 He's led to the Sweet 16, and he's saying that this feels like his most fulfilling and most gratifying because of how they started. Remember, 0-5 in the SEC to begin the season.

Speaker 1 0% chance to make the tournament whenever they're talking about the beginning of this Arkansas Razorback squad. And instead, what do they do?

Speaker 1 Ah, they make it to the Sweet 16 because that's what Calipari does. He's been in 24 of these 32 March Madness tournaments.
And the guy's experience is obviously fantastic.

Speaker 1 And his team on defensive side, always going to strap it down. And they certainly did against the St.
John's team that wasn't able to shoot. No, no.

Speaker 1 That's what everybody.

Speaker 1 That's what everybody said. And then obviously Kansas with the incredible history that they have and the amount of success itself has had.
It's been a Hall of Fame coach row thus far for Cal.

Speaker 1 Why does he think his team is still rolling? We'll chat with him about that. And then at 1245 Eastern, we'll have Derek Queen of Maryland, who is from Baltimore.
Don't know if you knew that.

Speaker 1 And, you know, there was an opportunity to potentially have a game winner down one. Three seconds, 3.6 seconds left in a game.

Speaker 1 Coach Kevin Willard of the Maryland Therapy says to his team, who wants to ball? That guy says, give me a motherfucking ball. And then some people said he traveled.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 You know, could have had a nice little late dribble. He's 6'10.
So I think those steps were very, very long. Whatever the case, they did not call it.

Speaker 1 He puts it up and touches with the basketball gods. Big fundamental Tim Duncan watched that thing and said, great work, young lad.
He is a freshman, the Big Ten freshman of the year.

Speaker 1 He will be joining us in about 43 minutes or so. Can't wait to chat with him.
He's awesome.

Speaker 1 Not only in the give me the, you know, ball moment, not only doing this, and this had to feel so good after he scores it and his entire team is jumping around him, but in his press conferences, just talking like he's a professional.

Speaker 1 And we did a little research on this guy. He played for a team in Florida last year.
It's called...

Speaker 3 The Mount Verde Academy with Cooper Flag and Liam McWhite guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. Him, Liam McWhite guy, and Cooper Flag were part of the starting five.
That would have been an awesome show to watch. I would have loved to have able to see them play high school hoops.

Speaker 1 I assume they beat everybody by at least 50 points per game. But I wonder, you know, these guys have just been treated and acting like

Speaker 1 they move like... Cooper Flag moves from Maine to Florida to go.
He moves from Maryland down to Florida to go. It's like these guys have been living like professional athletes for the last few years.

Speaker 1 I know basketball has been like this for a long time because they're like recruiting teenagers in the basketball world. Shoe companies have been doing it for a long time.

Speaker 1 Agents obviously get in there. But now with the way the NIL is and the way college is, they're like professionals already.
And this kid says braces. Okay, that's how young he still has brace.

Speaker 1 Cooper Flag, I think, could be getting ready to go to prom because he reclassified. Like these dudes seemingly at a younger age, much more mature whenever it comes to handling yourself.

Speaker 1 Cannot wait to chat with Derek Queen. And then the second hour, ladies and gentlemen, it's

Speaker 1 Dick Vitale will be joining us. What, baby?

Speaker 1 It is going to be absurd. We'll also potentially have some NFL guests in the second hour.
We shall see what comes together.

Speaker 1 You are the greatest people on earth for allowing us to do this for a living.

Speaker 1 I was in Scotland last night, woke up here in Indiana this morning, and I'll tell you what, it is a great day to chit-chat about sports. So much going on.
We have pro days.

Speaker 1 We have storylines developing. We have draft conversation.
We have free agency chatter still. Who's going to be the quarterback of the Pittsburgh Steelers and the New York Giants? And J.J.

Speaker 1 McCarthy was on Up and Adams this morning with Kay Adams on FanDuel TV. And he said the Vikings have not told him he's the number one guy yet.
So what is going on everywhere?

Speaker 1 We shall do our bullshit through it all. The talks at the table is here at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt.
Conman, New England Patriots, Mike Vrable joined Don't At Me with Dan Dockish today.

Speaker 1 We have not got a chance to hear much of that, but you guys in a great spot with the way the mock drafts are going sitting there at number four.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I feel fantastic, especially when Elliott Wolf comes out, basically the pseudo-GM.

Speaker 3 I believe he is still the director of player personnel and says, hey, look, last year we kind of drafted on, you know, what do we need the most? This year we're drafting based on best available.

Speaker 3 So you feel great hearing things of that nature. You feel great because Mike Vrabel is also leading the way, but also who knows?

Speaker 3 You can't win any games in April in the draft, but, you know, maybe we can.

Speaker 1 They're saying number one's locked up. Let's go to 90 NFL vet Darius J.
Butler. Yes, sir.
Daniel Jeremiah said that. I think Rappaport said that.

Speaker 1 Everybody who said that Cam Ward is going to be the number one overall pick. Congrats to Cam.

Speaker 1 Congrats to Cam. Minus 700 is a massive favorite.
That seems like everybody kind of understands it. Then he has his pro day yesterday.
Yeah. Shows out completely.

Speaker 1 And I think he even says to the Tennessee Titans people, like, hey, I'm going to solidify this thing today. What did you see from that pro day yesterday?

Speaker 1 And how much should we be judging from pro day?

Speaker 2 You know what? Pro day is not a big deal. I think DJ said it yesterday.
For this guy, for Cam Ward, it's pretty much a proof of life.

Speaker 2 He just needed to show up, hold that day's newspaper, and show that he was alive. But he came out there and did.
I heard him speak afterwards.

Speaker 2 He said pretty much a bunch of their Miami stuff, you know, running plays, game-like reps. We knew who he is.

Speaker 2 Yeah, three-step, five-step, under-center, moving from the pocket, things we typically see from a pro days. We all remember the Zach Wilson when he flew up the boards.

Speaker 2 But this guy, he's been a dominant competitor everywhere. He's been.

Speaker 2 Watching his pro day again, it made me

Speaker 2 heartbroken again as a UM fan. How the hell didn't we at least get into the 12-team playoffs?

Speaker 2 But I mean, the record-breaking season that he had at UM and what this offense did. So, yeah, Cam Ward, he did what a ton of people expect him to do.
And yeah, he's pretty much locked down.

Speaker 2 He would be that number one pick.

Speaker 1 Yeah, his collegiate career is obviously one that should be chatted about a lot. Started at Incarnate Word.
Then he goes to Washington State.

Speaker 1 And then the NIL and the transfer portal allow him an opportunity to introduce himself to a bigger part of the world. Not that he didn't in Washington State.

Speaker 1 Obviously, we knew of him at Washington State and what they went through.

Speaker 1 And once again, we'd like to reiterate the fact, we had no idea at the time that Washington State was not going to end up in a conference. Sad.
I apologize. That's naivety out of me.

Speaker 1 I didn't know that there was that type of ineptitude at certain leadership positions because what Washington State was building up there was awesome. Same with the Oregons.

Speaker 1 There was a lot of great happening. So whenever the Pac-12 disappears and with the transfer portal and the NIL, him getting an opportunity to go to the U, flip their entire thing and then get...

Speaker 1 prime time push, and we all kind of get introduced to him. I think it was a great play.
And that's one of the upsides, I think, of the transfer portal in the NIL, especially for players.

Speaker 2 I think last year, correct me if I'm wrong, didn't he put his name? I think you said it, put his name in the draft and then came back. I think it was between UM and Florida State, maybe.

Speaker 2 So you're talking about coming back and really betting on yourself and now becoming, we all assume, the number one pick in the NFL draft. Like, that's impressive.

Speaker 1 You're talking about Florida State and Miami. Florida State gets DJ UE Ungulay out of Oregon State.
Miami gets Cam Ward out of Washington State. And there's two different outcomes.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Two different outcomes there. Not that it's DJ UE Ungulale's fault, but it did not work whenever he went to Florida State at all.
It worked whenever Cam went down to Miami.

Speaker 1 This throw, when I first saw a tweet, somebody said, 82 yards. This dude's staying on his own six, throws it to the other 10 or whatever the case is.
Then I found out, wait, there's no

Speaker 1 50-yard line. There's no 40s.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we had 1020 starting 2010. Yeah, it's not.
You know, some people watch that video. They're like, that guy's throwing for the five to the other 10.

Speaker 1 Holy shit, which is definitely worthy of the combo. I think it's like 54 yards rolling across your body fadeaway, which is still a dime.
Yeah. Absolute dime.
And he had a lot of time to get it there.

Speaker 1 Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What are you saying? What are you saying? There's plenty of land out there.
What are you saying?

Speaker 1 We've talked about this off air here this morning.

Speaker 1 Restrepo's people

Speaker 1 should have been doing everything they possibly could to either get a false narrative out there about an injury of some sort,

Speaker 1 or just say, let them just watch the film.

Speaker 1 Just let them watch the film. Don't need the run.
Even in the pro day there, look good, great catch, have a couple of sideline things.

Speaker 1 Allegedly, this guy ran 4-8 and a 4-7-6 or something, 4-7-2 or something like that.

Speaker 1 And then that led to a tweet, obviously, from he and many others going, you know, it's not about how fast you run on track. This is football.

Speaker 1 This is football. We looked it up.
It is football. There's not a lot of wide receivers in the NFL that are running 4-8s

Speaker 1 that are going to get open. Now, with that being said, this guy's the all-time leading receiver in the history of the University of Miami.

Speaker 1 University of Miami has a lot of history. You start rattling through the names of the wide receivers that have played in Miami.
You think to yourself, wow,

Speaker 1 this guy has the most yards out of any of them. Okay.
And obviously, he was a massive piece of this Miami team last year. He and Cam Ward were spectacular.

Speaker 1 And obviously, whenever you're able to find holes in defenses, that is certainly something that is an upside for a wide receiver.

Speaker 1 4-8, though, at a pro day, because you know, at the pro day, they can even get the numbers out a little bit faster because there's scattered stopwatches. That's tough.

Speaker 1 That's tough. I didn't like seeing that at all because I love watching him play football.

Speaker 1 And now I think to myself, like, yeah, somebody's going to get him in. Hopefully, somebody brings him into a building.
They will.

Speaker 1 And when he gets into the building, hopefully his football speed is still what we saw whenever he was at college. Because in the NFL, you know,

Speaker 1 the third corner, a lot of people are saying put him in slot.

Speaker 1 Those guys are getting paid now like 25, 30 billion. They're pretty good.
And those guys,

Speaker 1 if you can get open and run good routes, so can they.

Speaker 1 They can as well. And they're saying he's more quick than fast.
How much should we look into a 4-8-40, potentially 4-7-something 40 at a wide receiver position?

Speaker 1 And what are your thoughts about what he's going to be at the NFL? And can he play at the NFL at that speed?

Speaker 2 I mean, thoughts number one over Strepo, you know, being a South Florida kid is kind of like how Queen said when you have that confidence when you leave South Florida as a football player, just like he does from Baltimore to DMV.

Speaker 2 Hey, if I can make it here, I can make it anyway. Anyway, Anyway, thrived in South Florida as a high schooler.
Obviously thrived at UM to break all those records.

Speaker 2 So we know without a doubt this kid can play football at a high, high level.

Speaker 2 Now, it's a crapshoot when you go into the draft and all the evaluators, the decision makers, they take this into consideration, the measurables.

Speaker 2 So running a 4-8 and not being a big guy definitely doesn't help the process for him. So he definitely lost some money.
I would say we always say, hey, people earn some money.

Speaker 2 Golden going to the combine, running a 4-2. People didn't expect that.
Had great tape. He definitely made some money.
So I would say he lost some money on the front end.

Speaker 2 But if he gets into a building, which I think he still will get drafted, I think he'll still have an opportunity. And I think, honestly, he'll still make plays.

Speaker 2 I really believe in guys that are productive on every level. If they get to the next level, they're going to continue to be productive.

Speaker 2 But it is important for him to get in the right system because the thing about the NFL, your windows, you get them, but they close really, really quickly, especially when you're not fast.

Speaker 2 So being able to get open and have a quarterback that can put the ball right on him, he can definitely be successful in the next level.

Speaker 1 Good luck, brother.

Speaker 1 Pulling for you.

Speaker 1 We have, there's been some other you know slower 40 times documented during the draft cycle uh hunter renfro 459 now once again it's not a 4-8 that's not yeah that's not larry fitzgerald 463 once again not a 4-8 but larry fitzgerald played like 14 years and uh yeah 6'4

Speaker 1 monster man kennen allen 471 now this came after he tore his pcl i believe during the season so they're saying he wasn't fully healthy whenever he ran his 4-7-1 and jarvis landry is the easiest comp everybody was making because he ran a 4-7-7 at the combine.

Speaker 1 I guess he got hurt during that. And then his pro day, he would follow up and run a 4-5-1.
So it's like seeing a 4-8 number is not normal. Like that is not something that is normal.

Speaker 1 But also what Restreppo was able to do at Miami was not normal either. Maybe the football just kind of does its thing for him.
And I'm pulling him. He's a football player.

Speaker 2 I love the part of him that is the competitor. Hey, I'm going to go out here and compete.
I'm going to go out here and run this time. Whatever it is, I'm going to run it.
I'm going to go and do it.

Speaker 2 If I was his representative, if I I was his big brother, shit, if I was his little brother, mom, dad,

Speaker 2 don't go out there and put a 4-7-4-8 on wax. Just don't do it.
Let them assume. You know, sometimes you just don't run.

Speaker 2 Hey, tweak the hammy, tweak the something, you know, something that we expect to recover in a couple weeks. Yeah, that need to be a little bit more.

Speaker 1 Put the tape on.

Speaker 2 Put the damn tape on. Watch number seven play.
We know he can play football. Sorry, I can't.

Speaker 1 I can do routes with Cam. I don't think I'll be able to do it about it.
The explosion to get out there. I got a little bit of a tight.

Speaker 1 You know, this thing out here, this

Speaker 1 IT band. The IT band.
Hold on, a little bit, a little bit, a little bit. I don't know if I want to do that today.

Speaker 1 If I run, it's going to be slow. You know, it's going to be slow.
I want to do that. Obviously, you guys don't want me to do that because the amount of plays he made, absurd.

Speaker 1 But this comes into the full combine draft process now. Slow 40s are talked about.
Very fast 40 is talked about. Very slow 40s talked about.

Speaker 1 If you just run like in the window, not a conversation, just kind of keep it moving.

Speaker 1 Like somebody said, who was, we don't even remember who the guy said he was going to break the record at Combine, right? No, because he he ran an okay one.

Speaker 1 He ran like a 4-4 instead of a 4-2 something, but it's like he's in the window. He's good.

Speaker 1 There it is, Isaiah Bond, a Texas guy. Golden ends up running the fast one, too.
They were saying they were going to get 4-2 or whatever.

Speaker 1 They didn't, but they ran in the window, so not a conversation anymore. If you don't hit the window, it's like...

Speaker 3 conversation all of a sudden yeah by people that don't matter like we don't matter people on the internet don't matter if somebody thinks he can make plays bring him into a building one team he's gonna have the opportunity to do that we're pulling for yeah another one that uh kind of popped up was welker and he ran a 465 and obviously west walker everyone you know he's one of the most successful slot guys ever you you could argue but uh for restrepo and you're talking about systems like maybe this was planned maybe he said you know what

Speaker 3 tennessee titans who am i the best wide receiver with the cam ward so if i just run super slow i'll go undrafted and then guess where i'm going i'm going to tennessee to pull my best friend cam ward my brother who you know we won a lot of games with at you miami You never know.

Speaker 3 Maybe that's the case. And, you know, if it is one of those situations, maybe Cam Ward also said to Borgonzi and the boys, like, hey, Restreppo is going to run like shit today.

Speaker 3 So you guys are going to be able to get him in the sixth, seventh round if you want.

Speaker 1 There is a chance, too, with the way we've seen that indoor field built. Maybe their 40 is actually 41 and a half yard.
Maybe.

Speaker 1 You know, it might be a little bit longer because it's 10, 20, 30, 30, 20, 10. You know, maybe the individual yardage is a little bit longer as well.
Let's pivot away from Pro Days. Good luck, Xavier.

Speaker 1 Man, you're great at Miami. We hope you continue to do your thing in the NFL.
Same with Cam. Congrats on having a great day.
And I like the way he talked afterwards.

Speaker 1 He was chit-chatting about, like, yeah, for my teammates, basically. Like, all 32 teams were here to watch my teammates, which I'm very pumped about and thankful for.

Speaker 1 Like, and he was talking about going under center, play action. He was like, there's a lot of shit that I didn't get a chance to showcase.
I want to let people know that I do.

Speaker 1 And it seems like he did. Love his mentality.
Love everything about it. Good luck to him in Tennessee.
Great. Coming to the AFC South.
Let's go to college basketball, shall we? To a GOAT.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, he currently has 59 NCAA

Speaker 1 tournament wins, most by an active coach. Wow.

Speaker 1 That's a lot of wins. Yeah.
Ton. There's coaches that don't have that many wins in the regular season.

Speaker 1 This is in tournament time. 24 of the 32 tournaments have seen this man's name and face all over it.
Out of

Speaker 1 moonship outside of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Ladies and gentlemen, the head coach for Arkansas, John Calipar.

Speaker 1 How are we doing, Paison?

Speaker 4 I'm doing good.

Speaker 4 We're still playing.

Speaker 1 Now,

Speaker 4 we're 16 out of 16, deep 16, but we're still playing.

Speaker 1 Okay, so let's talk about it. There hasn't been as many upsets this year.
You know, there hasn't been like a Cinderella story. Your team is the one that's being talked about.

Speaker 1 And obviously, I think as somebody who is a casual college ball fan, anytime a Calapari coach team is in a tournament, it's normally going to be this team's going to win. This team's going to do well.

Speaker 1 Now you're like the underdog. Now you're like the Cinderella.
Now you got people like, hey, it's Arkansas. Let's go, Arkansas, for the good of it all.
How have you been using that with your team?

Speaker 1 Have you acknowledged that? And how do the boys feel about where they are right now?

Speaker 4 We're the underdog. We know it.
But, Pat, you're just too young. When I was at UMass and when I was at Memphis, we were always the underdog.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 you kind of like it. You want them to play free and loose.

Speaker 1 But again,

Speaker 4 this tournament, you're right. There weren't a whole lot of upsets.
And so people are all still alive. The good news, you're an athlete.
You guys, you got to get in the ring.

Speaker 4 You got to step the ropes and you got to get in. And we be's in the ring.

Speaker 1 And let's

Speaker 4 see what happens. Now, Texas Tech, woo, are they good?

Speaker 4 They talk about shooting threes, but they also can post the ball. They also play ISO basketball.

Speaker 4 If they break you down on the dribble, I'm watching like,

Speaker 4 you know, what are you going to try to take away? Well-coached team. I mean, they deserve all the accolades they're getting.
Really good players that make plays.

Speaker 4 So we know it's going to be a hard game for us. But I tell you, we'll show up and let's see how we do.

Speaker 1 That'll be on Thursday, Sweet 16 for Arkansas. Take it on Texas Tech.
How long have you started watching film on them? Did you do it before?

Speaker 1 I don't remember if you told us you're looking ahead or not.

Speaker 4 I,

Speaker 4 when we got on the plane after we won that game against st. john's i said we got a three-hour trip give me some tape and i watched two halves

Speaker 4 and i said don't know because i got to get in a different frame of mind they didn't miss any shots

Speaker 1 i'm like what the

Speaker 4 i don't want to watch any more of this because i have to get to where we got a chance yeah so um yeah i did watch it on the way home and i've watched uh uh some I like to watch their last five games

Speaker 4 because

Speaker 4 the last five

Speaker 4 gives you an indication of how they're playing now.

Speaker 4 You go and try to do something in December, November, who gives shit, as you would say, who gives a shit?

Speaker 1 That is it doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it is hard.

Speaker 4 But, and then the last thing,

Speaker 4 and I'm kind of, am I breaking this with you, Pat? Come on.

Speaker 4 Adu Thiero is available. Okay.

Speaker 1 Come on. Okay.

Speaker 4 He is available. Now,

Speaker 4 I played Boogie, who was available

Speaker 4 15, 18 minutes,

Speaker 4 but he helped us win the game. Huge, huge.
He made the steal. He made the plays.
He made the assist.

Speaker 4 Now, Adu, it's a different deal because we need his toughness and his athleticism. The most he'll play

Speaker 4 12, 12 minutes, maybe 15, maybe, I doubt. But it'll be, but you got to prepare now because we're a different team.
Finally, we got a full roster.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was about to say, you're getting deeper. You're getting deeper of a bench as you're getting deeper into the tournament.

Speaker 1 That has to be a good feeling, especially as other teams are going the other direction, right?

Speaker 4 Well, that and the fact that we had fouled trouble against St. John's.
My big guy fouled, and I told him, look, I'm leaving you in. Don't foul.
And he fouled.

Speaker 1 I said, what?

Speaker 4 What are you doing? He said, I did foul.

Speaker 4 You can't foul in those situations. Now I can't play you in the whole hat.

Speaker 4 And then the other guy fouls out, Big Z, who's playing better, thank God, because we need him.

Speaker 4 But now you've got,

Speaker 4 you don't have to go to a four-man zone.

Speaker 4 Like, two, three guys.

Speaker 4 Like, okay, let's play a diamond zone. We only got four guys.
So it's,

Speaker 4 it's still, look,

Speaker 4 and everybody wondered, well, how will he affect the team, Boogie? And I said, Boogie came in to me and I told you last time we were on and came in and said, I don't want to hurt this team.

Speaker 4 You just tell me how you want me to play because we're playing good. And I said, listen, you're going to play off the ball instead of on the ball.
Make plays.

Speaker 4 And I need you to defend and come up with steals. I don't know how much you'll play, but be ready.
I'll have the same talk with Adu.

Speaker 4 Adu wanted to play. He's the only reason he's playing is he said, I'm playing.

Speaker 4 I want to help this team.

Speaker 1 Okay, so let's talk about that. You talk about his toughness and quickness, and you said the same thing to Boogie whenever.

Speaker 4 He was our leading scorer.

Speaker 1 Okay. Our leading rebounder.
Okay, so let's talk about it. Everybody's chatting about how Patino's team had no offense.
You know, these guys have no offense.

Speaker 1 I feel like a Calapari team, defense is the thing, right? I mean, that is kind kind of your animal. That is kind of what gets better throughout the season.

Speaker 1 How do you feel about your team's current state of defense? And do you think you have a chance to go on a real run here?

Speaker 1 You say you got to step into the ring and fight, but do you think you have the pillars to have a championship team?

Speaker 4 All the 16 coaches know we're all 2-0. Don't matter what you did all season.
We're now 2-0. You have a chance.
We're going to have to defend like crazy.

Speaker 4 Let me tell you what else I saw on the tape when I watched Texas Tech. Their offensive rebounds are not to stick it back in the basket.
They offensive rebound to kick it out and get a three.

Speaker 4 Their transition offense to get threes, really as good as I've seen. This will be a hard game, but I like my team.
I like my players.

Speaker 4 I even let them drench me after the game, which I look, oh yeah, I look at them.

Speaker 1 don't you do your me.

Speaker 4 And after this game, I said, bring it on, boys, bring it on.

Speaker 4 Look, it's rewarding, I've been doing this a long time. And this, and we've had some ridiculous, we won 38 straight one year.
Yeah. Won a national title.
This

Speaker 4 has been as rewarding as any season I've coached. I can remember busting through at UMass and busting through at Memphis and what we did in a stretch at Kentucky.
But we were dead to rights.

Speaker 4 We were thrown in the coffin. They pushed the top down,

Speaker 4 but they didn't nail him. They just, they, they, they said, ah, he can't get out.
Don't even worry about the nails. And I'm not talking just me.
I'm talking our team.

Speaker 4 They counted our team out. And so I came in with the shirt because I didn't want to get my suit wet.
Yes, my friend. So I told him, go ahead.

Speaker 1 Very Paison of you saying, hey, listen, don't touch the suit, boys. Okay, we got a good sport coat on here.
We got a good button down. Don't you touch it.
But the shirt, you do your thing.

Speaker 1 And I heard you say this is the most rewarding. And last time we talked to you, you chatted about the 0-in-5 start and you know how you felt like everybody was kind of like, hold on, even yourself.

Speaker 1 And with how it ended, you know, the last stop. Obviously, we don't have to bring up that, but you had great times, great times.

Speaker 1 And then on the way out, I think everybody was kind of ready for a fresh start. You go out there, starts terribly.
Now you get a a chance to get back to the Sweet 16.

Speaker 1 I just did some, I got some stats here. This will be your 16th Sweet 16 game.
Do you know what his record is in the first 15 Sweet 16 games that he's been in?

Speaker 3 What's that?

Speaker 1 12 and 3. 2-1 at UMass, 3-1 at Memphis, 7-1 at Kentucky.
Feels like you do A-OK in the Sweet 16. Excited to watch you do it with this one.

Speaker 1 But you talk about it being rewarding personally as well, I assume, because you talked about the coffee with the team. But at the end of Kentucky, there, you were this guy.

Speaker 4 I just, look i

Speaker 4 it was great for me and great for kentucky they're doing great you know we put 16 15 this is my 16th year in the sec 15 years my heart and soul you see my daughter my wife they're into this just like i am and we gave everything we had but it was time

Speaker 4 it was time now someone could go in and match what we did over that period of time. I wish them well.
I'm in another situation, and I'm at peace. I'm at peace with what went on.

Speaker 4 I'm not being revengeful. I went into Kentucky.
We won that game. I was humble about it.
I'm not like trying to beat them because they did this. None of that.
I'm about these kids.

Speaker 4 And my job right now is to stay locked in. I'm not listening, reading.
I don't care. He's the worst.
He can't. Okay, okay, I agree with you.

Speaker 4 Can we get on to something more important, which is I got to coach these kids.

Speaker 1 That's awesome.

Speaker 4 And you know what? What they've done,

Speaker 4 I owe that to them. What they've done this year, they could have let go and given up the rope and given up on me.
They didn't give up on each other or the staff.

Speaker 4 And my staff was unbelievable through this because they could have scattered and they didn't. They just kept working and now we're there.
But

Speaker 4 Texas Tech is real.

Speaker 1 Real.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they are. They are.
They absolutely are. We concur completely.
Sweet 16, everybody's going to be great, especially this year.

Speaker 1 You were being talked about as the underdog team because you knock out number two-ranked St. John's.
On that note, Connor has a question for you.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Coach, how was the interaction with Patino after the game? Was it like a Michael Jordan, Larry Bird situation, or was it more so like a very jovial, good to see?

Speaker 3 You know, good luck the rest of the way type before the game or after?

Speaker 1 After. After.
Or both.

Speaker 3 Unless you guys talk to the chip juice.

Speaker 4 Look, after the game,

Speaker 4 he said, good luck in the rest of the tournament. I wish you well.
And that there was, look, I knew it's heartbreaking when you lose at this time of the year. So

Speaker 4 I thought it was a gracious, you know, and I was trying to say, look,

Speaker 4 If they made a couple shots, they beat us. So it wasn't like we just bowled them over.

Speaker 4 But, you know, he had an unbelievable year with his team, and it's heartbreaking. So he was good after.

Speaker 1 Yeah. How about beforehand?

Speaker 1 Hold on.

Speaker 1 I saw some shit. I don't know enough about it because I'm college basketball.
You two, obviously, in Kentucky, there's a lot in that conversation and rivalry, but obviously incredibly Italian.

Speaker 1 I saw like sit-downs of you guys together, what, like 20 years ago? Yeah, 96. Yeah, 30 years ago.
And then obviously deep relationship because you guys have been in the same.

Speaker 1 How is the relationship with you and Petino and other legends amongst the sport? Yeah, there it is. Look at all

Speaker 1 young Paisons there.

Speaker 4 This thing is so competitive. It's not like old school.
When I was with Ted Owens at Kansas and Larry Brown, they would have dinner the night before with the opposing coach.

Speaker 4 They would have breakfast with the guy.

Speaker 4 Ours are peace, brother. See ya.

Speaker 4 And it's just different.

Speaker 4 There's so much more. I don't know.
I don't want to say what's more at stake, but you know, and then Rick was at Louisville. I was at Kentucky.

Speaker 4 We weren't going to be friends.

Speaker 4 It was like that game was like life and death in the state. And I tried to play it down, but it was life and death in the state.
And so I've always respected him.

Speaker 4 I've watched what he does and how he does it. And, you know, everywhere he's been, you know, even the last where he was in Greece and then he was in Iona, he gets it going.
He's at St. John's.

Speaker 4 He gets it going. So, you know, you have to respect it, especially the number of years he's been doing it.
I wonder if there's. He said he liked my coat, by the way.

Speaker 4 There are other guys that were hitting me. They didn't like my coat.

Speaker 4 I don't give a shit if you like my coat or not.

Speaker 1 But it's nice to hear from Patina, though. You know, he has a little extra salt.
You know, you Paisans, he has a little extra sauce

Speaker 1 with how he dresses as well. Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 that's a good person to get a compliment from.

Speaker 1 And hopefully one day, I mean, who knows if either of you are ever going to retire from this, you guys are able to have a little Sunday gravy, you know, a little gabagou, a little bijut together, you know, able to kind of look back on the times of two Italians doing great things for the obvious sport of college basketball.

Speaker 1 D-Bud has a question for you about now.

Speaker 2 Yeah, kind of on that note, I think Coach Patino talked about not even recruiting high school kids or something along those lines.

Speaker 2 Like the team building philosophy, obviously, you've been doing it for a long, long time. I remember some of your great teams, a lot of the one and done guys.

Speaker 2 But how much has your philosophy changed when it comes to team building when you have to pretty much put this whole roster together and then go on this run?

Speaker 2 And when do you kind of feel like you guys become that unit?

Speaker 4 So that's a great question.

Speaker 4 Here's what I would tell you. You're going to have to look up the year.
It was either 15 or 16.

Speaker 4 We were in the national championship game.

Speaker 4 You know how many freshmen I started that year

Speaker 4 hold on is this when you missed all those free throws off no that was that was when we were that was memphis i'm talking kentucky i started five freshmen

Speaker 4 that's not for going to happen again because too many players are staying too long so now i am still recruiting the best freshmen in the country.

Speaker 4 It's in my DNA to help them and their families and put it together. But I got to get some returners and I got to get a couple transfers to go.
We signed a couple now. We're looking to sign one more

Speaker 4 and they will be a big, they'll be the big part of what we do. We'll have hopefully three, four come back and we'll have a couple transfers, a couple big kids.

Speaker 4 Anybody that wants to get better, wants to be trained, wants to be a part of something special, wants to be made to be uncomfortable so you can learn to be comfortable,

Speaker 4 be in the best shape of your life and be on a team with other really good players, which you want to go somewhere to be the only player, that's like going in a gym and you're by far the best player in the gym.

Speaker 4 You're in the wrong gym.

Speaker 1 Yeah, don't go to LA Fitness.

Speaker 4 I'm going to go in the gym.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 4 I was just going to say, I got dumped on twice.

Speaker 1 Agreed. Okay, so on that note, talking about recruiting and everything, we're having Derek Queen join us here in like 15 minutes.

Speaker 1 Woo! Unbelievable!

Speaker 4 So, he's always been good.

Speaker 1 Okay, he can pass.

Speaker 4 Yeah, let's he's like got guard skills.

Speaker 1 Okay, so let's talk about that. We saw his high school team down in Mont Vernon, and I don't know enough about high school basketball, is what I'm learning.

Speaker 1 Him, Mick White Guy from Yukon, and Cooper Flag were all in the same high school academy team. Is that how it works?

Speaker 4 These academies are kind of recruiting, some, but it's starting to move out because you know why?

Speaker 1 NIL in high school. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 4 So you're not getting six guys at one school right now.

Speaker 4 So now, if your high school prep school is not able to help them with NIL, you're probably not going to get as many kids. So I think that will kind of the same that, like I said, with us.

Speaker 4 And I used to recruit six, seven, eight freshmen. Can't do it.

Speaker 4 Most you can get now are three to four.

Speaker 1 Well, hopefully,

Speaker 1 you know, college basketball only continues to get better and better because of all this.

Speaker 1 The NFL, I think, is getting, or I'm sorry, college football, I think, is getting better because of transfer portal in NIO. Do you think same thing for college troops or not?

Speaker 1 Because you didn't even have a team last year.

Speaker 4 The thing I said, I was really disappointed in, and it's happened.

Speaker 4 There are kids in the United States that are freshmen that deserve scholarships to college that are not, their 700-800 will not get scholarships and they're good enough.

Speaker 4 But we're all waiting for transfers.

Speaker 4 So now

Speaker 4 that is what disappoints me the most. And part of the reason I won't change, I just can't do as many.

Speaker 4 You know, there are kids. I had a friend of mine call.
My son's a Division I player. He doesn't even have an offer because everybody's waiting for this transfer.
How many of my guys are coming back?

Speaker 4 How many transfers can I get? I may only have one or two scholarships for a freshman.

Speaker 1 That's happening in football too. Do you think there has to be something with the calendar?

Speaker 1 Because like the end, the football calendar people are talking about how there was a transfer window in the middle of the playoff, okay, which obviously caused a scene, which I think you guys are dealing with currently right now.

Speaker 1 And then there's a spring transfer window that is in the middle of some people's spring ball for football.

Speaker 1 And it's like, it is, there's a lot like with that entirety of like scholarship transfer windows, when people are leaving, when coaches find out who they have.

Speaker 1 Sounds like in basketball, it's pretty problematic as well with the way the calendar is set up.

Speaker 4 It is. And here's the other thing.

Speaker 4 there are a lot of kids that are going to put their name in the portal thinking, I'm going to make money,

Speaker 4 and they got nothing. They're not getting a scholarship.

Speaker 4 There are none left. And there are many of us that if you put your name in the portal,

Speaker 4 I probably say, you got to go now. If you're going to do it, I'll see you.
And we'll,

Speaker 4 because you pour in so much to these young people,

Speaker 4 if they're not coming back with the loving each other, what is this, one way?

Speaker 4 And so you probably say to me, I'd be hurt. It'd hurt my heart.
You're putting your name in the portal instead of coming. And yeah, but I just want to see and maybe I'll come back.

Speaker 4 Well, no, no, it's not how that works. And so,

Speaker 4 you know, we got,

Speaker 4 again, great kids that were raised right.

Speaker 4 You know, their family. Look, Dewan Wagner, that's DJ's dad played for me.

Speaker 4 Carter Knox,

Speaker 4 his brother, played for me. Billy Richmond, his dad played for me.
Even Aiden's father played for me. So, you know, like I said,

Speaker 4 these are good people that wanted their kid here. And it was hard.
And I am hard. I'm Italian.
I'm loud. I'm not going to sit.
Hi, you're okay. Just, you know, I mean, I get aggressive.

Speaker 4 I can't help myself.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I get good. Yeah, you're from Western Pennsylvania and you're Italian.
We understand completely. We understand completely how it goes.

Speaker 1 And obviously, you've been able to bring out the best in a lot of people.

Speaker 1 And the fact that family members are saying you should go play for that, I think that is the biggest compliment that any of your ex-players could show for you.

Speaker 1 But I'll tell you what, that does say you're an old ass, brother. You're an old ass man.
But that olive oil making you look young. Speaking of, Anthony DiGiulio has a question for you.

Speaker 3 Yeah, coach.

Speaker 5 Speaking of being old, I'm getting old. So I go to bed most nights before 10.09 Eastern when your game's going to tip off Thursday.
Now, obviously,

Speaker 5 the players are kids. Do you guys have to do anything different for a late tip on Thursday?

Speaker 4 Well, it's not late. We're in San Francisco.
So for us,

Speaker 4 it's anybody watching on the East Coast.

Speaker 4 You're going to have to stay up.

Speaker 4 But for us, it's fine. 10.09.

Speaker 4 The game that's a hard one,

Speaker 4 noon.

Speaker 4 Hard game, noon.

Speaker 4 You know, because at that time, whoever shows up's probably winning the the game. And even in this, they'll be excited, but eight minutes in, there's someone will let go of the rope.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 noon is a tough one. I don't care how late.
Now, I'll be honest,

Speaker 4 because,

Speaker 4 Pat, what'd you say I was?

Speaker 1 Old? No, no, Italian, handsome, successful, old. Yeah, there's a lot of things.
A lot of things.

Speaker 4 So I don't like coaching at 10 p.m. I'm normally in bed by 9.30.

Speaker 1 All of of us, yeah, all of us. Hey, but this is madness.
You know, this is madness.

Speaker 1 You know it better than anybody. On that note, Ty has a question for you.

Speaker 3 Yeah, coach.

Speaker 6 I know how every round is basically its own tournament in and of itself. But when you get to the second weekend like this and you have two great wins against Kansas and St.

Speaker 6 John's, is there any kind of residual momentum that you guys are still playing with, even though it's several days of passing your kind on to the next phase of the tournament?

Speaker 4 Anything in the past doesn't matter. My record does not matter.
The other guy can be 2-0 in his history and go in and win by 30. It does not matter.

Speaker 4 Now, what I've said is we're in a tournament with Florida, Maryland, Texas Tech, and us. That's all we're looking at.
We're in that tournament. Now,

Speaker 4 all we're worried about is Texas Tech. We know how good they are, how well they're coached, how they shoot, how they drive, how they post.
I mean, I'm looking at them like I literally put it down.

Speaker 4 I'm not,

Speaker 4 and they weren't highlights. It was the game I was watching.
So, yeah, you've got to stay focused now. And our practice is, I just want them spirited

Speaker 4 so that they're in that front. Not one guy better act like I'm tired or I'm cool today.

Speaker 1 I'm going to, hey, no, cool.

Speaker 4 You get slapped. It's like you walk in the ring.

Speaker 1 You think you're cool.

Speaker 4 Be cool when you get punched in the forehead. How about that punch? Yeah.
Now you're not cool anymore. You better protect yourself and be spirited about what you're doing.

Speaker 1 I don't want anybody being fucking cool out here.

Speaker 1 Okay, I don't need it. Okay, I don't need it.
You see the same Texas tech team that I watch. I tried to watch it on the flight home after we beat St.
John's. Motherfuckers are too good.

Speaker 1 I said, turn this off. I'm in a good mood right now.
I don't need to be getting a bad new coach. We can't thank you enough for joining us, man.
Good luck on Thursday. Thank you for taking time.

Speaker 1 And we can't wait to see your boys. And congrats on a dude coming back.
I guess it's first game since February 22nd is what Rothstein just reported.

Speaker 4 So let's go. Thanks, guys.
No problem. Appreciate you.

Speaker 1 Hey, good luck to the boys.

Speaker 1 Tell him to be spirited. You play music? He's gone.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 I thought it was an exit.

Speaker 1 I thought so too. I didn't know when.
He was so locked in. He's trying to find the exit.
Yeah, the mouse. Yeah.
I don't get the hell out of here.

Speaker 3 Where do I go?

Speaker 1 Leave. Hey.
All right.

Speaker 1 Those are the best. I'll be on a Zoom, and the button won't pop up for whatever reason.
And it's like, oh, no, now the awkward sit here with whoever else is having a sitting problem that I'm having.

Speaker 1 Let me race out of here as quick as possible.

Speaker 3 You're trying to hang up a call, and you just can't hit that.

Speaker 1 Then you can stay on, too. You know, that every once in a while, Zoom will stay on on your phone when you leave the thing.
And then it's like, oh, wait, I'm still on this thing.

Speaker 1 Holy shit, what just you know why?

Speaker 3 I need to get out of here.

Speaker 1 What's that?

Speaker 3 We know who made Zoom.

Speaker 1 Sports Pope? I don't know.

Speaker 7 CCP? Yeah, there's chances to CCP.

Speaker 1 You remember Sports Pope? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 6 He pretty much did invent it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He said on our show. He did.

Speaker 3 Zoom's going to be huge.

Speaker 1 This was before

Speaker 1 COVID. Really? A lot of interesting stuff coming out about COVID.

Speaker 1 Yeah, before COVID, Mike Francesa. Yep.
The Sports Pope. The GOAT.

Speaker 1 Of sports.

Speaker 1 Him and Russo, I guess, created, like yelling at each other for sports and very passionate. And

Speaker 1 I'm not from New York, so I didn't know them until I watched the the documentary. And I was like,

Speaker 1 these guys are awesome. And Sports Pope, they used to stay on for like six hours, just taking calls.
You're an idiot. Hang up on him.
Just for six hours straight. You're talking about absolute beast.

Speaker 1 So we had him on the program and asked a few questions. And I don't know who did.
Somebody knew it might have been Ty. Yeah, I know you're an investor or whatever, like anything you're looking at.

Speaker 1 And he goes, a couple of things. And he says, Zoom and what else?

Speaker 6 I forget. I can't remember.
I think the other one may have not fared as well. Yeah, but he did.

Speaker 1 He was ahead of the Zoom train.

Speaker 6 The Zoom's going to be huge. It's going to be big.

Speaker 2 So take it for what it's worth.

Speaker 1 And then COVID happens and everybody. Oh.
Zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom.

Speaker 2 I'd be careful with these phones, though, man.

Speaker 1 Add people in group chats, group call.

Speaker 1 What is it? That can't. On accident.

Speaker 1 That was a big. I wonder if that was one of those group texts that you have to click and then go into like a note section, you know? Yep, sure.
I assume it's like that. Are you shared iCloud link?

Speaker 1 I assume reading that first like 10 lines and then it has like a little arrow. Do you you want to continue? It's got to be a joke.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I do. What the hell is going on?

Speaker 1 That was a wild piece of information.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you can understand how the names could get mixed up. You assume that, you know, the, you know, one of the names was some sort of guard and then the other was.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 3 You know, like that. That's exactly why.

Speaker 1 At wild times. I'm flying back from Scotland and what a time over there.
Shout out to Glasgow. Love Dawson.
Shout out to Glasgow. Nice day.
Active city. The sun was shining.

Speaker 1 Every local person I said, I'm like, wow, what a beautiful day. Don't get used to it.
You know, they gave me a full-on. There's never, I, I legitimately was the, I walked around for four hours.

Speaker 1 A lot of people walking around. I was the only person with sunglasses on.
Okay. Because I don't think they sell them.
Yeah, but I don't own them. And the only, there was people that had

Speaker 1 transition lenses. Transition lenses.
So I saw a couple of those, but it was, I was like 15, 20 minutes into the walk, and I'm like, oh, nobody has sunglasses. Like literally nobody has sunglasses on.

Speaker 1 And it was like perfect sun.

Speaker 1 And, you know, maybe some vitamins to carry it over, you know, from the

Speaker 1 the flight it makes sense or whatever and I was like nobody's wearing sunglasses this is very this is very interesting so I literally had like a 45 minute deep thought while I was walking around about could I find sunglasses right now if I had to I don't think it's even a thing because it's very abnormal I guess for it to be such a perfect day but it was city active clean

Speaker 1 people are very kind they speak the same language as us but I'll tell you

Speaker 1 I couldn't understand

Speaker 1 they get rolling there and it's a hot that that that, that, that, that, that's what it sounds like. And I'm like,

Speaker 1 where are we speaking the same language? I think we are. And then every once in a while, you hear something and a big laugh out of the group.

Speaker 1 And I felt like really left out of a couple different things. But I'd recommend Glasgow.
Quick flight, you know, quick in and out.

Speaker 1 Only four-hour time zone difference, which is good, as opposed to like a six or a seven or anything that can happen.

Speaker 3 Yeah, similar to Ireland as far as travel goes. It feels like, where did you get the kilt? Because the fit was.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're talking about McGregor and McDuff?

Speaker 1 The kings of kilt to makers. Yeah, that was a big deal.

Speaker 1 Hey, thank you. I felt pretty solid about that.
Might be the best one. Yeah, had to wear the Air Forces, you know, but McGregor and McDuff was the place.
And I did not know.

Speaker 1 I mean, I guess we should expect this in Scotland, but like, this is a really happening spot. There was like 10 people that worked there.

Speaker 1 They were acting as if they were like bartenders, but they were kilt tenders. And people were coming in and out just trying to rent everything.

Speaker 1 Like, they try to rent them for big events and everything, you know? And

Speaker 1 yeah, they gave me all my measurements. They sent it to a warehouse.
I rented it for an evening. That thing there is called a spawn.

Speaker 1 Oh, I don't want to get it wrong, but this thing is part of like your family. Scottish bellfucker.

Speaker 1 Was that? Oh, yeah, it's a knife. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's a knife. Yeah, I had a knife in my right sock there just in case.
Somebody comes. Okay, somebody comes.
I'm going to the calf, to the knife,

Speaker 1 to the throat. You should shake the arm.
To the toe. Boom.
Bang. Should have.

Speaker 1 Boom. Now, granted, there's a chance that thing slices my calf.
So I thought there was a little bit maybe

Speaker 1 an interesting design flaw in it all.

Speaker 1 But they said, I just got to be an athlete, basically and i get that thing and then boom you know i could kill somebody so yeah i was ready to go to war the air forces were ready yeah clean they were they were they were ready to go you know i i probably first time though couldn't tie too yeah i couldn't tie it michael cole hadn't tie it obviously but uh sure he's great at that it was very professional evening i felt good over there and the scottish people were very welcoming uh joining us now speaking of welcoming we'd like to welcome this absolute dog dog onto the program uh just learned of him that's on me should have learned about him a long time he's from baltimore we know that because he was asked why he's so confident in big moments.

Speaker 1 He said, I'm from Baltimore, which

Speaker 1 shout out to Baltimore being a city where somebody can say that. And we all understand.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. He is from Baltimore.
Obviously, he had the game winner for Maryland the other evening.

Speaker 1 After being asked by his coach who wants the ball, he said, and we quote, give me the motherfucking ball. Ladies and gentlemen, Derek Queen.

Speaker 1 How you doing, brother?

Speaker 4 I'm doing good. How about you? Good.

Speaker 1 Let's go back to that huddle, that moment. Did I just describe it it exactly how it went?

Speaker 1 Has this been overblown or is that actually how this goes? And how often has Coach Willard said who wants the ball, who needs the ball?

Speaker 4 He don't ask that often, but

Speaker 4 you said it right word for word.

Speaker 1 Okay, okay, because we didn't know, because he said in the quote, it was MF. We didn't know if you added the in at the end, you know.
We didn't know if it was just motherfuck ball.

Speaker 1 And then that sounds a little bit different. Sounds like you're a little bit nervous, but instead, we obviously flowed with, let's talk about this Maryland team.

Speaker 1 Obviously, you're Big Ten freshman of the year. The Willard's been there for a few years now, has made the tournament two out of three years.

Speaker 1 Whenever you get recruited to come back to Maryland and everything takes place, is this the vision? Is this what Terra Pins are possible?

Speaker 1 And when did you know this team had a shot to make a run in the tournament?

Speaker 4 So, this was my vision of doing like what I dreamed of.

Speaker 4 And I figured when we had a shot, probably first game of the season or second game of the season where we really like came together, gel, like we all came here to win, do something.

Speaker 4 I mean, it's kind of like a whole new team from last year when they did make the tournament and Coach Willard just like

Speaker 4 got us like an oil machine, like put us together and got us working well together.

Speaker 1 You're a Baltimore kid coming back to Maryland, obviously having this massive moment. How has it been going back home? Because we know you went to high school down in Florida.

Speaker 1 You and Mick White guy from UConn and Cooper Flag

Speaker 1 were all on the same team. I assume you guys won by 50 every single game.
Going back to Maryland, though, how has it been?

Speaker 4 I mean, it's been great. Like a lot of family members, friends get to see me.

Speaker 4 Campus been great. Like

Speaker 4 they really love the basketball players. They show me a lot of love.

Speaker 4 Try to like, like, they always give me words for encouragement. And they

Speaker 4 also tell them, like, they also tell me that I'm one of their favorites.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, you're six foot ten, you move like a point guard, and you just had a game winner fresh out of Baltimore.

Speaker 1 Let's talk about Coach Coach Willard a little bit there because you said he brings the best out of you.

Speaker 1 You did a press conference afterwards, and I want to let you know the way you handled things was as if you were like a 50-year-old man. Okay, I just want to let you know how mature you are.

Speaker 1 Here's a question about why

Speaker 2 do you guys respond so well to Coach, and then your answer: Willard's someone who basketball players listen to, and what has he meant to you guys in the short time he's been with you?

Speaker 2 First,

Speaker 2 he did pay us the money,

Speaker 2 And then

Speaker 2 we got to listen to him.

Speaker 1 And we all trust him because he's like a player coach.

Speaker 2 And then he wants nothing but the best for us. And he just

Speaker 2 coaches hard. He talks to us other than basketball.
He's just always there and just want us to win.

Speaker 1 Okay, so that answer, obviously, awesome. Just like every time you've been on a microphone, it seems like you give great quotes.

Speaker 1 But I think it's a great sense of where you guys are at nowadays in college ball. You spoke basically like, hey, he's like the guy paying us.
We are working for him.

Speaker 1 Is that the mindset that you've had?

Speaker 1 And do you think, whenever you go to Florida for high school, does that kind of like prepare you to be, I don't want to say a professional, but a professional whenever it comes to all of this, including a lot of money, a lot of spotlight, a lot of possibility, a lot of potential distractions as well.

Speaker 1 Have you felt like more mature than maybe most people your age because of the experiences?

Speaker 4 Yes, because I went to Melbourne for three years

Speaker 4 by myself and obviously with my team but

Speaker 4 like I had to start washing my clothes by myself had to start

Speaker 4 kind of cooking by myself I had to do a lot of stuff by myself so that just really opened like opened my mind up and like and and like ready me and got me ready for college And then Coach Willard, like I said, he understands me because he understands my personality and stuff.

Speaker 4 That was a joke, but it's also being for real. But Coach Willard, he understands me because I like to joke around.
I like to show my personality, and he's always there. Like, he always laughs with me.

Speaker 4 He makes jokes, too. Like, and I think I also bring out

Speaker 4 the happy or the funniness out of him, too.

Speaker 1 Hell yeah, great relationship. Nice tag team for Maryland currently.

Speaker 1 Having a 6'10 point guard forward would be, that'd make me happy

Speaker 1 if I was coach. But also, got to coach your ass, too.
You know, you're still young. A lot of things that happened.
D-Butt has a question for you, Derek.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Derek, you talked about being in high school and that stack roster, the whole squad. I want to know what those ones were like after practice, what that competitiveness was like.

Speaker 2 And how hard was it? I know you said this was a dream you had. How hard was it to, when it came to push, came, the shove, to choose Maryland over all the other top programs in the country?

Speaker 4 So at practice every day, like it was competitive, a lot of drills, like even in sprints, like everybody wanted to win sprints.

Speaker 4 And then like 5-1-5, like here, Coach Boyo switched the teams up and it'd be like

Speaker 4 different players.

Speaker 4 It was six seniors, so he'll try to split three and three or sometimes four and two and put us with the younger guys. But we always competed every day because we always wanted to win.

Speaker 4 Of course, bragging rights,

Speaker 4 mess with each other in the locker room. And then come back to Maryland,

Speaker 4 I came on an unofficial visit a day after my birthday, and then I think they played Coppin State, and I was like.

Speaker 4 This is where I wanted to be.

Speaker 4 And then I waited until like February, I think 21st to commit but I always knew like for two months that I was willing to come back to Maryland hell yeah hometown kid coming back doing his thing Jimmy's you ever have any Jimmy's famous seafood uh crab cakes or anything yes I actually have a meal with them

Speaker 1 you have a meal like a Derek Queen meal yeah it's a um

Speaker 1 it's like a chaco it's like a meal prep oh shit genius Jimmy's these guys are pro these guys are the greatest so you're having crab cakes every day of your this guy's life

Speaker 1 I would go back to Maryland for that as well. Ty has a question for you.

Speaker 6 Yeah, Derek, obviously being, you know, Big Ten freshman of the year and first team all Big Ten, like you're one of the dudes.

Speaker 6 But how important has it been leaning on the upperclassmen throughout the season, just kind of help them helping you kind of go throughout your first full season of college basketball?

Speaker 4 So like at the beginning of the season and even the beginning of Big Ten play, like I had my struggles and then like like it wasn't really me leaning to them because i'm still the youngest on the team even though i got uh first team and big ten uh freshmen like they just want me to succeed and they just want like obviously like they want what's best for the team and they always push me and um

Speaker 4 and they helped me grow and mature too by uh by walking me through things giving me the steps uh talking me through college and then um just always been there and and like being big brothers to me how come they said you traveled on that

Speaker 4 I don't know. Like, I just, I just don't like understand how they trap, like, how I travel.
I just took regular two steps.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I agree. I mean, the refs are the same thing we're seeing as well.

Speaker 1 Yeah, people will find anything complaining about. That's right.
Yeah, they don't know about them.

Speaker 1 They don't know. Look at them.

Speaker 1 They have no idea. And you know what? You got a problem? Why don't you go one-on-one with Derek? And we'll just throw it bald aside.
Tony has a question for you.

Speaker 5 Yeah, Derek, the long sleeve look is awesome. I love it.
It's very, very, very, very, very, very swaggy.

Speaker 1 In my opinion, it it is very swaggy.

Speaker 5 Have you always done that? Or when did you start doing it?

Speaker 4 No, I started doing it this year again, but I always wore it like occasionally when I had like baggy long sleeves.

Speaker 4 But when I was on the UA circuit and when I went to Mel Verde, like they always had like compression tight. And then I didn't really want to wear those.
And then

Speaker 4 Merlin, they gave me like a like a baggy one.

Speaker 1 Yes, and then I've been wearing it ever since. Yeah, they gave you a 7x baggy.

Speaker 1 So you're 6'10. Is that accurate?

Speaker 4 Yes.

Speaker 1 How heavy?

Speaker 4 Like 250, 245.

Speaker 1 And you're 18 or 19? How old are you?

Speaker 4 I'm 20.

Speaker 1 20 years old. Wait a minute.

Speaker 1 So, Montvert, you were there for three years. You were there for three years.
And then you come to Maryland. So you're still 20 years old.
I should have done more research. That is 100% on me.

Speaker 1 But you're still going to get even, I mean, do you see your body still kind of transforming and shaping into what it's going to be?

Speaker 4 Yes, because my strength coach, he always showed me pictures and he called me, he'd be calling me honey buns and like

Speaker 4 recent cups. So I like I have to, I gotta go through that every day and he just showed me pictures often.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, hey, don't be fat because you can be something.
amazing for sports.

Speaker 1 And your mentality, your humility, your personality, and your ability are all things that are going to make us want to watch forever. So thank you for the time and good luck the rest of the way.

Speaker 4 Thank you. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 No problem. Okay, so standard two steps there.
That was standard two steps.

Speaker 4 Regular two steps, standard.

Speaker 2 Ready for the NBA?

Speaker 1 Absolutely. NBA ready.
You can go show some love to, I'm from Baltimore. That's why.
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Speaker 1 I assume there's going to be more quote t-shirts coming out of Derek Queen. Your brain is an awesome one, brother.
We can't wait to watch you. Ladies and gentlemen, Derrick Queen.

Speaker 1 Thank you, man. Thank you.
20 years old. Jesus Christ.
Should have got that one right. What's that all about? I mean,

Speaker 1 he's prep schools now.

Speaker 6 You know, it's like you can graduate from high school and they still, you know, you do like a post-graduate year, and it's crazy.

Speaker 1 20 years. And also, they're probably paying them in high school, too.
I mean, the amount of money you're probably making in the entirety. Go ahead.

Speaker 3 Yeah, like what Cal was saying, but that's like the opposite of the reclassify. Like Cooper Fi goes down.
Some guys go, you know, the opposite way, go up and kind of do the entire.

Speaker 3 That's old school, you know,

Speaker 1 uh football dads yeah oh my kid back he's gonna be a 20 year old senior five years of high school is casual man a lot of people do it yeah

Speaker 1 up in the new england area that's a common thing okay man yeah that's what i heard my family's trying to get me in school as early as possible would have been cool to be the older guy

Speaker 1 younger guy in our class it was very cool especially in college he turned 21 before everybody else he's 20 years old six foot 10 having this moment that he's having right now.

Speaker 1 I can't wait for him to be on the pacers. He's going to be a great Indiana Pacer.
I don't know about that.

Speaker 2 He had Hoosiers in his,

Speaker 2 I think, Final Fourth basketball team.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 2 He chose Maryland, but I believe the Hoosiers won.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to come to Indiana anymore because a lot of people in Indiana were saying, hey, best thing that's ever happened was Derrick Queen not coming.

Speaker 1 Well, that was...

Speaker 1 That's what I saw. That was double D.

Speaker 1 They lost shots out there. He's happy with the freeze, as he should be.
McCollum's already drafted or recruiting for Iowa. West Virginia still don't have a head coach, but on the other side, what?

Speaker 1 Dick Vitel.

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Speaker 1 Scores are happening all around us. We're lucky to talk about it.
The talks and table is here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Ty Schmidt, how you feeling?

Speaker 3 Feeling pretty darn good.

Speaker 6 You know, you mentioned it there before the break.

Speaker 6 You know, Ben McCollum's already just hitting the recruiting trail, hitting it hard, you know, getting guys to transfer into Iowa, which they need because everyone on the roster pretty much transferred after they lost Fray McCaffrey.

Speaker 3 So we got to get going right now.

Speaker 1 This man needs to shave his head. I love it.

Speaker 6 I think he should let it recede even more and just leave like a little widow's peak there at the top.

Speaker 1 Maybe Hulk Hogan it.

Speaker 6 That's not a bad idea.

Speaker 3 He Hulk Hogan's it.

Speaker 6 We're in the final four next year.

Speaker 2 Brother.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well said.
Now he has all the players from Drake transferring. Pretty much.
Drake the aisle. Great players.
Good players.

Speaker 1 Just like DeVries is getting all the players that he knows transferring to Indiana. That's kind of how it works now.
Yeah, West Virginia doesn't even have a coach. So I'm sure Ren will figure it out.

Speaker 1 Hey, come on, Brent. He's figuring it out.
He's working on it. Is he?

Speaker 1 Have you heard from him about it?

Speaker 1 I saw him. Good luck text.
He said, thank you. It was good.
It was good interaction.

Speaker 1 Now, do I think I could potentially help a little bit, you know, if we have some questions and some things may be, you know, I think. But it's all good.
Ren will get to the bottom of it.

Speaker 1 He's a basketball guy. He was a basketball guy.
He's one of hired DeVries.

Speaker 1 Hey, everybody, Bell of the Ball. Remember, Ren Baker found him and got him to West Virginia before anywhere else.
He'll figure it out. Not in your NFL vet, Darius J.
Butler's here.

Speaker 1 Your coach, who I'm a big fan of, is going to do a self-reflection time. Maybe even ayahuasca.

Speaker 1 He didn't say that, but the answer he was giving me was like, wait, is this a re a reflect, a refresh, and a reset for Dan Hurley? Because I hope we don't get anybody new. I hope we get Dan Hurley.

Speaker 1 Even more next. I'm not buying it.
Rappaport wants it. You heard him.
Yeah,

Speaker 3 they're cheaters. They're doing an investigation in UConn.

Speaker 1 What are they investigating? I don't know. Threatening lives.

Speaker 1 I just saw a breakdown. I will.

Speaker 1 I will. I'll ruin it.

Speaker 1 I'll investigate in UConn. So

Speaker 1 I didn't see this till later. I got a DM from the guy that had the video, and he said, there's a lot more to the story.
And I was like, this sounds fake. I'm not looking into this.

Speaker 1 Also, I'm good on a plane to Scotland. So I didn't even

Speaker 1 just kept it moving. Was there threats, D-Butt? Well,

Speaker 1 the follow-up to the story, I guess, was that the Connecticut SID said, oh, that's cute. Delete it.
Now. Delete it.

Speaker 1 I'm going to ruin your life. Yeah.
Is that how it went? Whoa.

Speaker 1 Is this mob land happening up there?

Speaker 2 You know, I respect. We stand up for our coaches.
And I want that same coach to come back. The evolution has been from Daniel to Danny to Dan.
And we would like to remain Dan, you know.

Speaker 1 I do appreciate SID coming out going, you're going to take that down now.

Speaker 1 So that was his picture on the left, right, SID? I think. Okay.

Speaker 5 Maybe we just call him Coach D now.

Speaker 1 Like, maybe he's going to become cool. To be clear, old buddy, I'm being told, fan of the program.
So no,

Speaker 1 we just found that out. Obviously, there is a reason why we're like, kind of a cool move.
I think it's kind of awesome.

Speaker 2 It's basically our Big Dom.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, but Big Dom would have had that thing eliminated.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 There's levels to it all. I do appreciate his entire job as the brand and the image of the Yukon Huskies basketball team and having to work alongside Dan Hurley, who is not like the others.

Speaker 1 You know, he does not operate like anybody else and in a spotlight because they win. So he's having to put out a lot of fire.
He's passionate. So what?

Speaker 1 Well, why do you tell the ref he's the best coach in the league and he better turn around and look him in the ass? Because he is. Okay, next question.

Speaker 1 He's handling things like he's a press secretary at the White House with Dan Hurley and the way it all goes. So that video comes out and immediately he's like, we're back at it.

Speaker 6 You done now. Now, the way he responded to it was awesome, too, though.
You know, like after that came out, he's like, yeah, you know, some reporters standing where he shouldn't be.

Speaker 6 There's no reason he should be there. And then it should be about coach walking off with his seniors arm in arm.
Instead, this guy's doing it.

Speaker 6 And now we're all talking about, you know, how pissed off coach is. It's not right.
It's not right. And I don't think it is right.

Speaker 1 I do like to hear like standing in a place definitely not supposed to be there. Trespassing.
Trespassing.

Speaker 1 Okay, so anybody can just break into places they're not supposed to be, take their phone out, and all of a sudden it's a journalist. Okay, I don't think so.
Next question moves on.

Speaker 1 I enjoy it. I like the journalists just said, hey, yeah.

Speaker 5 What was he doing standing there?

Speaker 2 He should have been standing there.

Speaker 1 He had great access. He might have went to the bathroom.
You never, you know, there's a, I've been caught in those situations before. I think we all have, actually.

Speaker 1 Whenever we're at a stadium or an arena, and the nearest bathroom from wherever we are is up one of the VOMs or up like a tunnel. And then you go and you come out, and oh shit.

Speaker 6 Everybody's coming.

Speaker 1 Whole team. I am not supposed to be here right now.
So there might have been somebody that like stopped him too as he was coming back from somewhere. Like not now, teams coming in.

Speaker 1 And then he just, this is a pretty cool view. I didn't know I was going to be here.

Speaker 1 Gold. Yeah.
Always pissed off. Gold.
Gold.

Speaker 2 Send it. Tunnel not sacred.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, not anymore.

Speaker 1 Nothing is.

Speaker 1 There's not even a locker room's not even sacred anymore.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's real. It's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 We get, you get, what, a 10-15-minute cooldown period before we're supposed to be in front of cameras. As journalists, I mean, he needs to face the music.

Speaker 1 Okay. He's from Yukon.
Obviously, that is how he feels. For me, for the journalists, great kid.
Okay. And for UConn, love the response.
Yeah, absolutely. Okay, so now we move forward.

Speaker 1 I can't wait to see what they do. I like Dan Hurley acting like that.
Like, I do, because that's who he is. And obviously, his team responds.

Speaker 1 I don't love the immediate reaction whenever somebody doesn't act how everybody wants them to act at their position. It's just like, ooh, bad.
We hate it.

Speaker 1 It's like, no, this is just how this could be as well. You've seen the same.
This is how this could go at this position. Now, not saying everybody should be like that.
Not everybody will be like that.

Speaker 1 But there are humans like that in sports and in competitive worlds. And it's just like with Sirianni.

Speaker 1 Like when Sirianni was talking his shit walking out of a stadium, like I'm like, like, okay, that is not normal for a head coach. But Sirianni obviously has the boys rallied around him.

Speaker 1 And his job is to get the boys to rally and play their best and lead them to a dub. So if these people are winning, I don't think there is like any grands to be like, that ain't right.

Speaker 1 Now, if they're losing and acting like that, it's like clown show. Yeah.
Get them the hell out of it.

Speaker 2 And this is who basketball coaches have always been.

Speaker 2 Jim Calhoun, Bobby Knight, like a lot of the great ones, like they're more so a part of the action even more than like football Coach football, you know, they got a lot to handle here. So

Speaker 2 these guys are right at the score sometimes on the court.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's so Kim Maulkey and LSU, like all these coaches, they have their different personalities, and they're a part of the game, and that's how they get their teams going.

Speaker 2 And sometimes it boils over to, you know, right after the game when our tensions and emotions are high.

Speaker 1 Okay, ladies and gentlemen, one half of the hammer done. Cowboys AP tone.

Speaker 1 What trends for March Mountainers thus far as we look ahead to the Sweet 16 and as we look ahead to our conversation with Dick Vitale.

Speaker 5 So obviously the money line for the Underdogs hasn't been great. You know, our good friend Boston Connor bets on the money line for all the underdogs.
And that, what was it, 14 and whatever it was?

Speaker 3 Yeah, it was bad. It was 13 and 44 money lines for underdogs, including the play-in game.
So don't do that.

Speaker 5 But as far as like, as far as against the spread goes, 28 and 24 were the favorites against the spread. So, I mean, that's pretty average, about 500 for that.
And then the under was 28 and 24 as well

Speaker 5 against the number there. So as far as like the underdogs winning, not so much, but the underdogs 28 and 24 were the favorites against the spread and then 28 and 24 to the under as well.

Speaker 1 The ball is too inflated. Did you hear about this?

Speaker 2 I did hear about it yesterday. I thought it was a rejoke.
That's real shit.

Speaker 1 The players are saying that this feels like this is an issue. It does suck.

Speaker 2 It sucks when the ball is like dribbling, like obviously, you know, bouncing out of the room. That does suck.
I didn't know that was a real thing, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're saying it was a real thing. Now, let's go to the NFL and talk about something that's very real.
TomBrady.com, the 199 newsletter. Yep.
Of course.

Speaker 1 He's a writer now. He has seven total posts.
Okay. Okay.

Speaker 1 The seventh one being the most notable publicly because he said there was a natural tension after 20 years together with Bill Belichick and the way the Patriots were all looking to go and the way they were kind of going.

Speaker 1 So this kind of is just a little bit more of a stamp of, yeah, there was some stuff that was happening maybe behind the scenes 20 years, two alphas, two of the goats working alongside of each other that's a long relationship yeah you know people live with their parents you know before they go to school or before they leave for 18 years think about the relationship with your parents think about how that could potentially go with your siblings for that long 20 years becoming the greats the greatest of all time next to each other.

Speaker 1 There could be some differing of opinion. There could be some differing of what the future looks like.
Bill Belichick has to look out for the Patriots.

Speaker 1 Tom Brady's got to look out for the Patriots and also Tom Brady. And then obviously you got Kraft in there trying to navigate the waters.

Speaker 1 He said the last few years, so that would have been three years. They had success during that time together as well, which is also a wonderful part of this entire story.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, big time. They won the Super Bowl in 2018 with the 13-3 victory, which was an exhilarating game against the Rams and McVay's first Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 But I mean, when you think about just the team construction as well, like you talk about how sometimes, you know, the offense and the defense are damn near two separate teams at points.

Speaker 3 And you can think with Mahomes and Andy Reid, like, hey, both offensive guys.

Speaker 3 Obviously, the credit goes to you know the offense a lot of the time like with the New England dynasty because it was so much Brady on one side with you know whoever was the OC and then Bill and the defense on the other you can see we're just even credit getting you know given to certain sides of the ball because early on it was Bill Bill Bill because Brady wasn't you know the guy

Speaker 3 like 999 you know those first three super bowls the dynasty you think about like Brewski and Richard Seymour and Vrabel, obviously, in those kind of teams wasn't so much about Brady.

Speaker 3 Brady was kind of almost in the purdy situation. And then towards the end, it became much more Tom Brady.
Bill can't do it without Tom. You know, Brady's the reason they're winning all those games.

Speaker 3 So the natural tension does make sense. And the Jimmy G drafting, a lot of people point to.

Speaker 3 But the fact that they were still able to win, and who knows when it started, because 16, they won the Super Bowl as well.

Speaker 3 17, they went to the Super Bowl, lost against, you know, the Eagles and the Nick Foles,

Speaker 3 Philly-Philly play. And then, you know the the Rams Super Bowl they still won so sure there might have been tension yeah there's tension

Speaker 1 three super streets race you both were gonna win two of them in the entirety of it obviously you're in that building yeah with both of them as a second round pick for the New England Patriots what is your thoughts on it natural tension I think was Tom saying

Speaker 2 yes like yeah there's gonna be that that's gonna exist let alone being together for 20 years I mean it's normal anytime something like this comes from you know the greatest player in the game obviously gonna be a big deal especially on you know March 25th but I I can't think of any great player that stayed into a place anywhere near 20 years that didn't have some type of natural tension.

Speaker 2 And you talk about Bill, he wore both hats as far as the GM and the head coach.

Speaker 1 And Tom always gave a team-friendly deal.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, literally any player that I could think, Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan, LeBron, you know, Peyton Manning, Drew Breed, like any at some point in their career, there was some bumps.

Speaker 2 Aaron Rodgers, there's been some bumps in a row with other people.

Speaker 1 Wayno, even. Wayne got traded, right? Wayne was.

Speaker 2 Like everybody. If you stay, like you you said, you mentioned it.
It's a marriage. It's a long-term relationship.
You're going to have some ups and downs. You're going to have some natural tension.

Speaker 2 So I don't think it's a big deal. Connor just mentioned, like, they were winning.

Speaker 2 So if this was the opposite way and they were losing, they were at the bottom of the barrel, it'd be a different ballgame.

Speaker 2 But I don't think this is a big deal, but I can't wait for the next 199 levels.

Speaker 1 Yeah, eight is coming around.

Speaker 6 Well, in a lot of those instances with those other guys, like the player always wins out because

Speaker 6 very seldom is it like a guy plays with the same coach for 20 years. Like how many coaches did Kobe have? You know, even MJ went through like a couple different guys.

Speaker 6 Like Brady is really like the only one where it's like, it was him and Belichick pretty much the entire time.

Speaker 1 And I don't think that will ever happen again. Yeah, different relationship whenever you're 22 versus whenever you're 35.
Yeah, 36, 37.

Speaker 1 And I do appreciate, I think we all do that he's come out and been like, yeah, because they both all been like, we love each other, which you will, by the way, once you kind of separate, you know, the heart grows fonder, if you will.

Speaker 1 And then you look back and it's like a lot of great things were accomplished. But in the moment, there there was probably a lot of gripes from both of them about how things were going.

Speaker 1 And then, obviously, you get away, you say all the good stuff, but this is the first time where we've really heard him say,

Speaker 1 Yeah, there was some shit. It's like we all expected it, we all knew that that was reality.
And now we know from the 199 newsletter, he's a blogger now. I guess so.
Yeah, added to the resume.

Speaker 1 Love that.

Speaker 3 You can do it all. To see him.

Speaker 3 You might be doing it on a typewriter.

Speaker 1 Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1 Jammed. Fuck.

Speaker 11 Ah, shit, that was supposed to be.

Speaker 5 There's actually probably a better chance he's Neuro-linking it.

Speaker 1 Ooh, straight from brain to paper. I mean, there is a chance.
I had no idea this existed until this one. This is the seventh one.
Writing takes a long time.

Speaker 1 I might even get into it.

Speaker 3 What's that?

Speaker 1 I told you guys a couple weeks ago, I learned about the...

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Talk to text.
That's crazy. Game changer.
Really smart phone. Other things, it's getting dumber, which needs to be talked about, you know, with Timmy Apple.

Speaker 1 Like, something's going on here where my smartphone's getting dumber. Don't think that should be how this whole thing goes.

Speaker 1 But for that whole bubba ba-bubba thing, I mean, that makes life a lot easier.

Speaker 2 You have the new update? Or the new phone?

Speaker 1 I have the newest phone. I haven't done the whole song and dance.

Speaker 2 I gotta turn off something.

Speaker 2 I'm tired of Apple intelligence summarizing my emails. Just emails.
The whole thing.

Speaker 1 You got around on the playground yet? What's that? The playground? I haven't.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 5 Get on the playground.

Speaker 1 Have some fun out there. What?

Speaker 1 What the hell are you talking about?

Speaker 5 There's a playground app. It's an AI picture app.
It's It's fun. It's a good time.

Speaker 1 Oh, so they're Grok.

Speaker 1 So they have a Grok? I don't know.

Speaker 1 Chat GPT?

Speaker 1 I've never used Grok. Grok is actually pretty talented.
Grok also. No, I tried Grok 2.
Grok is pretty talented.

Speaker 3 This iteration. We're on like Grok 3.

Speaker 1 He's amazing. And it always has beta next to it.
It is Grok 3.0 beta. So that means they're testing Grok 3.0? Correct.
Well, they did that to Grok 2.0 the entire time. So then we got to 3.0.

Speaker 1 We're still testing. Always getting better.

Speaker 6 Are we ever going to not be in the beta beta stage of grok or any of these maybe grok may be just the beta stage in general and then they might change it to like brock or something alpha yeah alpha exactly and then that's just the new ai i just don't agree with grok

Speaker 5 Like, I'm a big green guy, but I hate Tesla.

Speaker 1 You sound pretty red right now.

Speaker 5 I'm a big AI guy, but I hate Grok.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.

Speaker 1 You love news, but... Yeah, I hate Twitter.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's a wild thing.

Speaker 3 So it happens when you only listen to to OAN.

Speaker 1 Last story.

Speaker 1 The world right now is in a wild spot. Yeah.
There are some people that,

Speaker 1 I mean, you're talking about just way and have never heard the other side, I don't think.

Speaker 6 That's why those people should just watch sports.

Speaker 1 Bingo.

Speaker 1 Come into our world. Yeah, legit.
Come to where we live.

Speaker 6 Watch the games on Thursday and Friday.

Speaker 1 It might change your fucking life. What do these people do that don't watch sports? I'm learning now.
It's like, oh, they're just. Yeah.

Speaker 1 This is it. They're cementing themselves into more of I'm a better person than you are.
Yeah. And I appreciate their passion.
Okay. Everybody's saving a world, it seems like.

Speaker 1 Everybody who's has the right idea for how the world needs to be and how it, and I respect it. And everybody, I'm talking, you know who I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 And it's like, I appreciate your passion, but boy, don't get lost in there.

Speaker 1 Come on into watch some sports. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Watch some sports.

Speaker 3 Dive into a conspiracy. Look into the pyramid.

Speaker 1 No, there's a lot of those. What we're saying is stay in.

Speaker 1 Come over to the sports. Those things all kind of get into the entire.
What is going on? Holy shit.

Speaker 1 We got a lot of talk about that yesterday. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now.

Speaker 1 Okay, ladies and gentlemen, joining us now.

Speaker 1 When we talk about sports, we talk about come enjoy sports, come enjoy competitions, come enjoy moments that are magical, that can only be created from a moment having to change the course of not only people, but entire schools.

Speaker 1 A guy who is voiced over a lot of those moments of our childhood, not only ours, potentially your parents' childhood as well. 41 years he's been working at ESPN.

Speaker 1 Baby, ladies and gentlemen, the voice of

Speaker 1 college basketball. He's in pro and college basketball halls of fame.

Speaker 1 Dick Vital. Yay!

Speaker 1 How you doing, Dick?

Speaker 4 Well, I'll tell you one thing, Pat. 45 years I've completed at ESPN.
45.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 4 I am honored. I finally got a call from Pat McAfee to be on his unbelievable show, man.
That's incredible.

Speaker 1 Dickie, Dickie. Dickie, Dickie, we would have had you on day one if we knew this was even possible.

Speaker 1 The fact that you have blessed us with your presence, especially during March Madness, we are grateful for, especially with everything you've been through over the last few years.

Speaker 1 You're inspirational. You're a badass.
And we appreciate the hell out of your commitment to sport for all of our entertainment for over the better half of five decades.

Speaker 4 Guys, yeah, I'm talking to all you football, unbelievable fanatics, football guys talking basketball. I think it hurts you guys talking hoops.
I think you'd rather talk hoop walk.

Speaker 1 Whoa, whoa, whoa. We, we've, no, that is valid.
Yes,

Speaker 1 that is certainly true. But there are times where basketball takes over the zeitgeist, and this is certainly one of them.
We just talked to Cal.

Speaker 1 Obviously, Arkansas is like the underdog Cinderella story this year. Calipari is the team that everybody's pulling for to go on a run with all the high-ranking teams surviving.

Speaker 1 What is your takeaway on this year's March Madness, Dickie V? How should we be viewing this?

Speaker 4 You know, Pat, it's Chalk City. I mean, there's no doubt about it.
I mean, 13 of the teams there. I've been to the final four.

Speaker 4 You got eight of them that have already won national titles. So it's all Chalk City, and it's all new.
You know why? The NIL, man, the schools that are paying big time cash. It's all about that.

Speaker 4 And we got chaos going on. I'll share this with you, Pat.
You and your guys. They just opened up the transfer portal, which I think is a joke.

Speaker 4 I think it's absurd to have the transfer portal during the heart of March madness. I think that's crazy.
It's ludicrous. You ready for this? Only one day.
About a thousand kids are in the portal.

Speaker 4 A thousand. It is total wacky what's going on.
Because the question is right away. The question is very simple.
When the kids talk to some coach about transfer, what about my cash, man?

Speaker 4 How much am I getting? Did you ever think you'd see this path going on? It's a better free agency than the pros have because in this case, you're free. At least in the pros, you got a contract.

Speaker 4 I think they got to think about a contract. I think they think about, you know, the kids deserve money.
I have no problem with that. But the bottom line is this chaotic movement, no stability.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's happening in football too, Diggy V. Obviously, we're seeing that.
They had a transfer portal in the middle of the playoffs, transfer window in the middle of the playoffs as well.

Speaker 1 And there was actually players that were in the playoffs, 12-team playoffs. This is what you work for.
There was players in the playoff that were like, I'm leaving. I'm leaving.

Speaker 1 It's like, how is this what's right? I think they're going to figure that out, though. How much of the chatter has been done for college hoops?

Speaker 1 Like college football, obviously, we live in that all fall. We got a ruling coming this month or whatever on what the future is going to look like for RevShare.

Speaker 1 We did a lot of that with football talk. How much of that's happening in college basketball, you think? And is there guardrails on the horizon for how it's all run?

Speaker 4 Well, I just tell you this, Pat. I just think that there's so much chaos.
It's the Wild West in intercollegiate sports. It really is.

Speaker 4 And I just think think that somewhere, there's no rules and regulations. There's none.
Zero. Do what you want.
Do anything you want. And the big schools, I'll tell you what else is happening.

Speaker 4 You don't see any Cinderellas. You're not going to see many Cinderellas anymore because it's all the schools that can pay the big dollars.
The SEC has seven teams, seven teams in the final four. Why?

Speaker 4 Because the SEC has gotten with the Times. The ACC hasn't gotten with the Times.
So they got one team, Duke. Duke gets it.
Duke has the dollars. They have the unbelievable talent level.

Speaker 4 But I'm telling you, Pat, something's got to be done because, you know, you hate to see the little guy rubbed out.

Speaker 4 The other problem with it, with the transfer portal, if you're a good player, I'm going to make Pat McAfee dream. Dream he's a jump shooter.
Dream he's an incredible player.

Speaker 4 And you're at some mid-American school. You're at Miami.
Handle that rock, man. A good left hand.

Speaker 1 I like that left hand.

Speaker 4 Keep the eyes up don't look at the wall

Speaker 1 what are you talking about

Speaker 4 you're at a mid-american school what and all of a sudden you play really well you know what happens you're gone just like a little brick right there but you're gone

Speaker 4 you're absolutely gone to another school so they're taking all the stars away that developed from the mid-american schools from the actual

Speaker 1 mid-major schools yeah so that's going to take away you just got to to hope that a team is able to build, you know, and everybody stay true.

Speaker 1 And hopefully the madness will remain in the March tournament because Calapari being the underdog Cinderella story is certainly something out there at Arkansas.

Speaker 1 But they're one of those SEC teams you talked about. Greg Sankey came on the show and was like, hey, we told the schools.
Our men's basketball has to get better.

Speaker 1 So they did a concerted effort to invest in it. And to your point, it has worked for them.
Will everybody else? We shall see. D-Bun has a question for you, Dickie.
Yes, sir.

Speaker 2 Dickie V. First of all, absolute honor.
I'm a Yukon Husky, and you've called some of our biggest games, some of our national championships. So an honor.

Speaker 2 But you been on the air for so long and being iconic on the mic. I want to know, how did some of these your most iconic sayings come about? Were they practiced in the mirror the night before?

Speaker 2 They just come out live. PTP or diaper dandy.
Like, when did these come about? How did they come about?

Speaker 4 You know what? Really? I steal a lot of it, man. I steal from people.
People like me little notes, letters, suggestions. I use them.
I get credit.

Speaker 4 Nah, to be serious, it's just, I always, when I started the TV, I make believe I'm talking to my buddies at home. And I just talk from my heart.
You guys do that. You talk from your heart.

Speaker 4 That's why you connect so well with everybody. Because you're regular.
You're down there shooting the breeze. I've never looked at the red light.
where the red light has intimidated me.

Speaker 4 And I've always had fun doing it. The only thing that's intimidated me is having five major vocal cord cancer surgeries and all that stuff.
Pat, I'd like to get a little

Speaker 4 help here. I'm trying to raise money for kids battling cancer, Pat.
It means so much to me, especially after what I went through.

Speaker 4 I want you to know this is the first live interview I've done in three years. Doctors have put me on unbelievable, unbelievable voice rest.

Speaker 4 Like I said, I had five major vocal cord surgeries and I'm just honored and thrilled and always moved to tears, but I'm even talking because about a year ago, I went eight, like I think it was eight weeks.

Speaker 4 I couldn't talk, not one word, write everything down. And so I made that recovery.

Speaker 4 But going through what I went through, I can't imagine a mom and dad with little kids going through what I, I'm 85 years old, man. I got the energy of a 20-year-old, but I'm 85.

Speaker 4 And I'll tell you this, Pat. No child should ever go through what I did in terms of the scans, the blood work, constant always to the doctor's office, doing chemo six months.

Speaker 4 I did radiation, 65 treatments. No child child should do that.
So, my goal is to raise money through the V Foundation for kids battling cancer. So far, I'm so proud of this.

Speaker 4 Probably in my whole career, I'm in, I don't know, multiple hall of fames and all that jazz. But

Speaker 4 my real

Speaker 4 part of me is so excited about to tell you this. We have raised my gala $92.8 million.

Speaker 1 Let's go. Let's go.
Let's go. Let's go.

Speaker 4 And this year, we're going to go over the 100 million mark because we're honoring people like Mike Strahan. We're honoring people like Brant Hill and all these stars and with Calaperi.

Speaker 4 And we have a great event. There it is right there.
We have a great event. It's held down in

Speaker 4 Sarasota, the Ritz-Carlton. Anybody wants information, they call 941-350-050-80.
But the best thing they can do and donate. Donate that dick.
All you got to do is go go to dickfightal.com.

Speaker 4 It's as simple as commitment. DickFyTal.com.
You can donate. It goes to the Reef Foundation and you might save someone you love.
I get passionate about this because I've been,

Speaker 4 I spoke at several funerals for kids and it just tears my heart out. Yeah.
Tears my heart out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and it's not just the kids. Obviously, it's the entire family, the anxiety alongside all of the appointments.

Speaker 1 We're honored that this is the first interview you've done in three years and thankful for it. And also inspired by your mission.
I will obviously donate and help out with the gala.

Speaker 1 We will continue to promote your mission to helping out families of kids battling through cancer. And let's talk about the vocal cord surgery.
So they told you no talking.

Speaker 1 So I've thought about this before as somebody who is a professional speaker. I'll lose my voice at the end of like football season.
I'll go through it. I won't have my voice.
I won't know.

Speaker 1 Like that's my biggest fear whenever we're on a microphone is that I'll have something and i have no idea if it's gonna if it's gonna make any sound i have no idea if my voice is gonna be able to create it because i'm hoarse i've been yelling and i'm a very loud person to begin with but for you i assume you've gone through times of going hoarse and losing your voice when you're told you can't speak as a professional orator i mean what is the initial reaction and that that had to be

Speaker 1 mentally that had to be very difficult

Speaker 4 You know what, Bat? I was telling my friend the other day, I go do a game, like I recently did seven games. I was so glad to do that.
It was like the best medicine in the world.

Speaker 4 But it's so difficult when you're going to do a game and you're in my position because of my vocal cord problems.

Speaker 4 Instead of thinking about the strategy of the games and all, I'm thinking about what happens if my voice breaks down right now during the middle of the game.

Speaker 4 And I shouldn't be thinking like that, but the bottom line is. That's what you live with.
And the strategy I could do with my sleep. You know, talk of basketball.

Speaker 4 You know, people write, oh my God, he hasn't missed a beat. Well, you know, just like you talking football or whatever, I could talk that basketball in my sleep.

Speaker 4 And to say this before I wrap up here, my final four are still alive. Michigan State and Florida, looking at a board here in my house.

Speaker 4 Michigan State, Florida, South and West in one semifinal, Duke and Houston in the other. When it's all set enough, Duke and Florida.

Speaker 4 And when it's said to cut the nets down, and they're going to scream and yell, I get this all the time. And I laugh about it.
I'll just say, Dookie Vitale, not Dickie Vitale.

Speaker 1 He loves Duke.

Speaker 4 Well, what's there not to like about him? You notice, Pat, think about why they're good.

Speaker 4 They're the only team in the nation, the only team that is in a situation where there's a Dujois, the only team that is in a situation where they're top five in the nation offensively and defensively efficiency.

Speaker 4 Well, when you excel in both those areas, you got a chance to win. And then they got the best player in the land.
And no doubt about it. I mean, Flag's, and Proctor's been on fire.

Speaker 4 That's Proctor shooting the jumper.

Speaker 4 He's been on fire. But

Speaker 4 the kid, when you talk about certainly Flagg, he is so special. He makes those things happen because his presence on the floor creates spacing.
for guys like Proctor to get free, to shoot the three.

Speaker 4 So he's one of those guys.

Speaker 4 Like I guess in football, you have them as well. But he's one of those guys.
His presence makes everybody better.

Speaker 1 Oh, yes, absolutely. And also, I think he reclassified.
He's supposed to be a senior in high school. He's special, special talent.

Speaker 1 And that coach down there, I'm learning more about White Mike over there in Chicago and his basketball playing career.

Speaker 1 It feels like they got it right, just like the basketball gods did whenever they blessed us with you for the better half of the last five decades. We appreciate the hell out of you, Dickie.

Speaker 4 Well, I'll tell you this: I'm hurt for one thing, though.

Speaker 4 the best linebacker in the history of ohio state football is not on the show aj where's aj he's on spring break he's got another spring break yeah ohio that's what we're learning hey aj did i say it right you're the best linebacker in football you told me to say it yeah

Speaker 1 classic all right we appreciate the hell out of you ladies and gentlemen i'll tell you what

Speaker 4 i need a lesson from you how you connect man you obviously connect and that connection you make i'll tell you what i would love to have my cash registered. Go ding-a-ling-ding.

Speaker 1 You know it, baby.

Speaker 1 You're the man, ladies and gentlemen. Dickie Vital.
Yay, Dickie V.

Speaker 1 What a legend. That's awesome.
The goat. Yeah, we put in a request for him

Speaker 1 a few weeks ago.

Speaker 1 And we got this big, long response that was like, want to come on the show? Love the show. Love you guys.
Love everything about your program, but strict doctor's orders not allowed to talk right now.

Speaker 1 And we're like, damn, didn't know it was like that and then we learned more and more it's like he's on like uh like right there we probably took uh too many uh of the things throughout the entire process but imagine being dickie vital yeah like speaker loudspeaker animated speaker and then being told can't yeah like think about it gatherings yeah

Speaker 1 him just loves to hold and quarter shoot the breeze he said like he loves doing that just talk with the guys you know do the entire thing and then they're like yeah by the way uh not only are you gonna have to battle cancer here and very serious and go through all these treatments, you're not going to be allowed to speak.

Speaker 1 Like that, I mentally, that would be a wild thing. But obviously, Dickie Vitale has done exactly what he's always done with everything, which is just commit fully.
And $92.9 million.

Speaker 1 Crazy. That's crazy.
That's unbelievable. That is absolutely unbelievable.

Speaker 1 Baby, are you serious? How about him saying, I jack other people's shit.

Speaker 1 They will, they'll write me letters and they'll have stuff in there. Ooh, I like that.

Speaker 3 Good. We'll use that.

Speaker 1 But on a serious note, it dropped into the other stuff. Shout out to him.
And if you can help raise money, I assume

Speaker 1 this would be a fantastic place to do it. I mean, $100 million, that's a great legacy to have.
Shout out to him. And shout out to the V Foundation continuing to raise some money.

Speaker 1 Let's talk a little bit about NFL hoops. Oh, we should say in college hoops.
Juju.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was tough. That's like her and Paige are the two

Speaker 1 that are carrying women's college hoops right now. And obviously, we saw the clips from this past weekend where she was chatting with Jaden Daniels and Jaden Daniels' mom throughout certain stuff.

Speaker 1 I think Jaden Daniels, I don't know. I was following on the internet and then I watched it.
Then I checked back in later. I thought Jaden Daniels'

Speaker 1 mom was in between them to start. Then she left and they were sitting next to each other.
It was being reported. And once again, I do not know.

Speaker 1 I do not know which one is real because, you know, timing of it all. But there is a chance, you know, she actually go up and left.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 yeah you know and then jaden and juju sat next to me i don't i i somebody would have to correct us on that whole thing but you're talking about this uh a power duo here yeah you know just sharing secrets just sharing secrets about competing and uh life in the spotlight and there's jaden danoes mom we saw her uh whenever we were at radio row at the super bowl i think she said she would come on show and tell us the real she did so we were sent a request in

Speaker 1 uh for jaden danoes' mom but juju one of the superstars of women's college hoops tears the racio that is absolutely absolutely devastating. That sucks.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that sucks. So

Speaker 2 she's probably the face right now of women's college basketball, her, along with Paige, who Paige has suffered some devastating injuries as well while at Yukon because she was kind of at the top of that level as well.

Speaker 2 But Juju, I mean, she's awesome, unbelievable business. She's doing off the court as well.
I know on court, on pace to be, to score the most points in women's college basketball history.

Speaker 2 I think she broke Caitlin's two-year mark.

Speaker 1 So she was definitely. She's tonight sophomore.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so she, I mean, she cooked, and her game her game is nasty and aesthetically pleasing as well so hopefully she gets a a quick strong recovery man because she's she's awesome to watch play basketball godspeed uh to juju and also uh i i guess west virginia women's basketball team got hosed down in uh north carolina i'll tell you what they gave the tar heels everything they could handle yeah but i heard the refs were playing for bubba's team oh you and see keeps

Speaker 1 again that's uh that's what i reckon that's what i reckon what was the score the close it's like 67 north carolina was. Because the refs wanted them to.

Speaker 3 About 11.

Speaker 1 11, I think.

Speaker 3 It wasn't that close.

Speaker 1 Well, of course.

Speaker 1 How many reps are on the court? Three? Two? Three? Three.

Speaker 6 A foul discrepancies.

Speaker 1 Playing eight on five. That's gotta be kidding me.
Playing eight in North Carolina. I mean, is West Virginia taking into the business? Is this week 16?

Speaker 2 Was that sweet 16? Brian of 32. Yeah.
Brown. Okay.
Yeah, that's close. For women's college basketball, around 32.
That's close. Yeah.

Speaker 1 58-47. You go look some people.

Speaker 1 58-47. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 It's a barn burner. There was a double overtime game last night, Maryland, and Bama.
I was watching that.

Speaker 3 Yeah, now that's a barn burner. And I saw one of the girls for Bama drop 45 points.

Speaker 1 Getting bad. And they lost.
Yeah. That was a high-scoring game.

Speaker 1 Bet on everything, women's college hoops, as well?

Speaker 3 Yeah, the spreads are tough the first couple rounds. I believe Texas in the first game was minus 48 and a half.

Speaker 1 How do we feel? Okay, which is tough. That's tough.
You're going to win by 60. It's what's your fault.

Speaker 2 What's your fault?

Speaker 2 That's what I'm saying. Like, these games, trust me,

Speaker 2 been at UConn for four years. Like, you knew the first, you know, a couple rounds.

Speaker 1 Like, yeah, all right. Like, U.S.

Speaker 5 UNC won 71-25. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then, obviously, West Virginia keeps it close alongside UNC and the refs, obviously, doing their thing. I asked about the gambling because I've seen the commercials.

Speaker 1 We've all seen the commercials. Yeah, it's crazy.
Yeah. About the college player prop bets.
I feel like that's a big push.

Speaker 1 I think Charlie Baker, who's president of the NCAA, he was in here, and I think he said that's something that he's really trying to get behind.

Speaker 1 The college player preps, I get our props are obviously problematic

Speaker 1 for like professional athletes, but they're professional athletes. For the college kids, they're professional athletes too, or they're not professional athletes.

Speaker 1 I don't, you know, it's an interesting world that we're in right now because do we view college athletes as professional athletes or do we still view them as college kids?

Speaker 1 And I think we should still view them as college-age kids because they're 18, 19, 20 years old.

Speaker 1 Obviously, you're still trained, like figuring out who the hell you are as a person then can still go through things, still feel things, especially nowadays with the social media world.

Speaker 1 But I guess the prop bets are the ones that really get people the most animated. Yeah.
You know, the team will win, but old buddy did not have 10 rebounds. Old Buddy did not have 17 and a half points.

Speaker 1 So he has 17, didn't have 17 or didn't have 18 to beat 17 and a half. Maybe he even has a triple double, has 17, goes for 10, and then let's say 11 boards or something like that.

Speaker 1 And he'll get terrible things said because he didn't go over on his points.

Speaker 1 Obviously, this is something that is going to happen in professional sports, but I think the college world, they're really trying to get rid of those.

Speaker 1 I think they are really, really, really trying to get rid of that.

Speaker 3 Yeah, not even every state has the prop bets for college. Like, I know in Ohio, you can't bet props for college games.
Indiana, I think you can.

Speaker 3 So I assume those commercials we were seeing too were specific to Indiana.

Speaker 1 Like lobbying. Yeah, big.

Speaker 5 I think for a while when you were here, you couldn't even bet on Purdue or Indiana. I think it's still like that.

Speaker 2 That's how there's a Connecticut, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think his states are still like that. I think like Illinois you can't bet on Jersey.
Yeah, Jersey you can't bet on a few.

Speaker 1 The prop bets themselves though, they're thinking about kind of getting rid of them.

Speaker 5 I don't think there's a need for the prop bets in college. Like there's enough options.

Speaker 1 I agree. Well, I mean, not only...
This guy hosts a show called Hammer Dod, which is a daily sports gambling show. And, you know, let's go to the other half of the Hammer Dodd Cowboys Bubble Gumpino.

Speaker 1 Gumpy, how many player props are you doing in college ball?

Speaker 12 I don't do player props, just bet the games.

Speaker 1 Okay, are you saying that just because you have no idea what's going to happen each night?

Speaker 12 Yeah, I'd just rather ride and die with a team.

Speaker 12 I'm not a big player prop guy myself. I don't know many people that are really diving into the college props that much.

Speaker 1 So I assume it's other college kids. It's probably college kids probably doing it, getting into gambling their first couple of years of gambling.

Speaker 1 They know, they've seen, we understand a little bit more. And obviously, if you think you have it figured out, that is going to be what you gamble on.

Speaker 1 And the player prop bets, it's, you know, easy to...

Speaker 1 There's some bets that seem like pretty easy, easy especially if you know a team but it is it does feel like the other side of it is pretty heavy and uh with how much they're pushing against it feels like there is a big effort to kind of get rid of those prop bets and i i don't know what the reaction will be but i assume everybody will be okay with it not that we've seen much of it in like the recent you know like the last

Speaker 6 really since it got super popular but not only like kids getting a lot of shit on twitter but i assume they're also thinking like this is much more susceptible for like games getting fixed and stuff like that.

Speaker 6 You know, because we just saw it in the NBA with that Jante Porter, I think that was his name.

Speaker 6 Like if that starts creeping into college basketball, like even in the slightest where, you know, it's like four and a half rebounds or points or something like that, like you could see, like you were saying, you know, a college kid who maybe isn't getting as much NIL money as he thinks he should be getting, like, that would be a very easy way to be like, oh, okay, I'm supposed to score, you know, my over-under is 14 and a half tonight.

Speaker 6 Like, I can score 12, you know, and just

Speaker 1 produce on defensive side. Exactly.

Speaker 1 i still have a good game but not too good of a game and we're not saying most athletes are thinking like no all you need is one or two and then obviously everything goes down so i'm okay with the push i i think uh that'll be something that'll probably get passed in most places i think i agree i think so play and uh

Speaker 1 what's his name last week tonight john oliver john oliver ran a clip of tyrese halliburton talking about uh the player props on his show from our show where halliburton was like yeah i'll still get somebody telling me that i didn't do enough for them or whatever.

Speaker 1 It's like in pros. Don't be me.

Speaker 2 I love Teller. Hallelujah's player prop, lock.

Speaker 2 Nine assists, locked.

Speaker 1 He's what? Like, I don't know how many games straight he's had where he's like double, double checks.

Speaker 2 He's had 11 assists, one turnover, I think, last night.

Speaker 1 He's unbelievable.

Speaker 7 Yeah, he's amazing. As hot as you can be.

Speaker 1 He's got so much moxie, too. He does have that.
And he's a good friend of the pros.

Speaker 3 He was talking a lot of shit against the Nets. It was awesome.
I don't know if you saw that clip.

Speaker 1 No. Also, whoever does the

Speaker 3 trash talk leak is so good at it. I don't know how, but they can turn up the sound of the players and you can actually hear them talking shit.

Speaker 3 But he was talking to this guy that was kind of, I don't know if he was badmouthed than Matherin at the free throw line, Benedict Mathurin, but it was towards the end of the game.

Speaker 3 And Mathurin kind of like went to give the guy on the nets a handshake, just screw him with him. And then Tyrese and him went back and forth and Tyrese got him real good.

Speaker 3 But again, whoever is doing these NBA mic'd up leaks, keep going because they also did the Carl Anthony Towns and Draymond Green one, and that one was pure comedy.

Speaker 1 So are they using like the dark night? You know, when old buddy goes down in the basement and they have that entire board

Speaker 1 with the supercomputer and they have all the sounds, they're like, we can do that.

Speaker 1 Is there like some AI that's just taking everybody's cell phone and every camera that is in there and piecing together the audio? Because how are they turning it? Because I'll watch the videos.

Speaker 1 They'll have the audio like somehow tuned up. I'm like, where are they getting this microphone from? Are they just gathering all of the microphones and doing it? But you're right.

Speaker 1 We are getting clips of people talking that were definitely not on the live broadcast. No.
And then somehow hearing them much clearer than you would think.

Speaker 1 And then all of a sudden I go like, is that fake? Like, is that fake? Or is that real? And then you got people saying, no, it's real.

Speaker 2 Every different arena. Like, to your point, like, how are they?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 3 I think I want to say it's League Pass because with the NBA League Pass,

Speaker 3 you can use so many different camera angles. You can click on specific ones.
Typically, they don't go to commercial break. So you're just getting like a legitimate look at like the stadium camera.

Speaker 3 And sometimes that is just a hard cam? Yeah, like yeah, hard cam, but sometimes even during timeouts, like they're zoomed in on huddles, and you can kind of see stuff.

Speaker 3 But I also thought AI, of course, this is bullshit. But then when you watch like Tyrese and them talking, it's, oh no, this is exactly what they are saying to each other.

Speaker 3 It is so cool, but I think it's the league pass.

Speaker 1 The lip readers are also cool on the internet. I really appreciate that.
You know, deaf people have been able to read lips for a while. On the internet, it's like certified deaf lip reader here yeah

Speaker 1 i know this is what they're saying

Speaker 1 it's awesome it's incredible i always go right into it so yeah i they have to it's got to they have to and then i'm looking at the lips i can see how that's i can see how that's being said

Speaker 1 it was like the entire thing last year with harry styles spitting on chris pine when he showed up at the at the oscars thing or the premiere of the movie or whatever uh 28 years old been lip reading for 27 these years you can see it i know exactly what's uh being said here speaking about what's being said texas has their pro day leg good luck to all the boys down there.

Speaker 1 They're in pro day season right now. For everybody, except for anybody that's in the Big 12, I guess.
What is it?

Speaker 1 They got a combat.

Speaker 1 I don't like that that's happening, but whatever the case, shout out to DJ and the boys for covering that. Quinn Ewers today is obviously a big story.
Golden down there, Bond down there.

Speaker 1 A lot of superstars on this team. Speed is kind of the story of a Sark offense.
Quinn Ewers can do a lot of good for himself today, Tone, or what is the conversation around this Texas pro day?

Speaker 5 Yeah, Quinn's fascinating because of coming into this year after last year, I mean, he went to, he took the semifinals, he threw for 300 in basically every playoff game that he's basically ever been in.

Speaker 5 But coming into the season, he was like bona fide guaranteed first-round pick.

Speaker 5 And then, you know, the report comes out that he played the season with the tornado bleak after he got hurt and he kind of dropped down some boards.

Speaker 5 But it'll be interesting because him throwing at these pro days is actually important because, you know, you saw the last season, and then how he threw this year was much different.

Speaker 5 So I think this one's big for him. Yeah,

Speaker 5 Golan ran the 4-2-9 at the combine. So I don't know if he's going to run.
Bond ran a 4-3-9, but because he said he was going to break the record, people thought, you know, not a great time.

Speaker 5 So we'll see if he runs.

Speaker 5 And then Gunnar Helm, the tight end, who, I don't know, almost snapped his ankle doing the 40 and then chose to run it and then, you know, didn't have a great time in the drills and stuff like that because of his ankle.

Speaker 5 So yeah, there's a...

Speaker 5 Big pro day down in Texas.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the corner, too, on the top corner. I think he was the top corner on DJ's board.
I think he had him at 11. Barron,

Speaker 2 interested to see what he does. But yeah, I think this is a huge day for Quinn because of what you mentioned, playing through that injury.

Speaker 2 So I know a lot of people want to see really how much juice does he have on his arm and his throwing motion and how that'll look on Pro Day. So this will be a big day for him.

Speaker 2 This will be a moving day for Quinn, I think.

Speaker 1 Sark is just going to create NFL guys down there. Oh, yeah.
Factory.

Speaker 1 Dickie V just talks about the amount of money that some schools have and everything like that. They have like three different like funds or something like that.

Speaker 1 That's why they were talking about it being hard to coach in Texas. They're like, it's not easy to coach in Texas because there's a lot of hands in the pot.

Speaker 1 Like, there's a lot of chefs in the kitchen because a lot of people are giving money. A lot of people have ideas.
There's a board of trustees.

Speaker 1 They chat about all the bad things that could potentially come with coaching in Texas. And it's always

Speaker 1 everybody else that has a piece of it. But if you're able to rally all those people and get on the same page, it's like you got a lot of access to a lot of different things.
Coaching staffs as well.

Speaker 1 I think they're going to have like one of the largest coaching staffs in America. That's just becoming like a new thing.
And then players, they're able to get whoever they want.

Speaker 1 And if you get offered to Texas, like still holds value, obviously the name Texas and brand name of Texas is always going to be huge.

Speaker 1 But the way they take care of the facilities, the football, like everything about them is a team that if they have the proper backing, which they do, it's sustainable greatness for a long, long time.

Speaker 1 They're going to have a lot of NFL guys coming out of Texas.

Speaker 2 Yeah, big time. And you mentioned it.

Speaker 2 As long as you can get the players, the top-tier talent, and when we watch Ohio State go on their run, I feel like this was was the only team that can kind of compete with them pound for pound.

Speaker 2 Obviously, Ohio State went on and

Speaker 2 beat them by a couple scores, made some big plays down the stretch. But this team from top to bottom is that we saw it in a combine, too.

Speaker 2 Obviously, their tape is one thing, but then for them to go out there and put the numbers up that they did. I'm excited to see what the future holds with old Arch taking the helm as well.
Exactly.

Speaker 3 I believe it wasn't leaked officially, but people are already speculating that, you know, Jeremiah Smith, Ryan Williams, and Arch Manning are the cover of the next video game for the college football.

Speaker 1 I saw they upped that money, they doubled it or whatever. They went to $1,000.
Yeah, $1,200.

Speaker 3 Well, and the game made over a billion, so, you know, think what you want.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but everybody was mad about Arch Manning not signing the deal or whatever. They're like, Arch Manning, the only players out.

Speaker 1 He's like, you think the Manning family's like, yeah, you give us 500 bucks? I don't think so.

Speaker 1 Okay, a lot of people are going to be using old Arch Manning, even if he's backing up Quinn Euros, because he is a dog. Yeah.
Arch Manning is about to be a guy.

Speaker 2 He's on a game this year, all right?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 he was on the game.

Speaker 3 Maybe it was just number 16. I don't know.

Speaker 1 I think he did come to an agreement before thought he was still in the game but but anybody that was trying to make that look as a bad thing i thought was an i thought it was an awesome i was on a complete opposite inspection i'm like hell yeah

Speaker 1 ea sports is about to learn quickly yeah like yeah you're not just fucking okay 200 bucks 600 bucks yeah yeah okay i don't i don't think we haven't worked our asses off for generations okay for uh a 600 let's get in there but arch being a part of now everything they're building that's an easy sell too you got the money you got every all the resources and also also we got a quarterback named Arch Manning that you have seen literally grow up in front of your eyes.

Speaker 1 He's going to be a guy too, especially just waiting too.

Speaker 1 You know, like I had a source during the season. Sure.
I don't think you can say cis with the way I said that sentence

Speaker 1 reach out to me and say like, hey, we are not, we're okay with Arch, like, we're okay with this whole. development thing.
Like we do not expect him to just be bum bum bum bum bum right in there.

Speaker 1 That was the decision they made going into Texas, knowing everything they were going to know. Then Quinn gets hurt.
Arch goes in.

Speaker 1 That could have got real loud, especially with Arch winning and stuff like that. Now, he made some mistakes, obviously.
They're picking apart. Like, well, he didn't do this once.

Speaker 1 Like, it's this guy's first fucking

Speaker 1 second game in this entire thing. Did well.
Then Quinn goes back in. Quinn has struggles later.
Still nothing. Just like understanding the process of it.

Speaker 1 And when he gets in there, he's going to be experienced. He's going to be comfortable.
He's going to know the offense. And they're going to have dogs all around him.

Speaker 1 him, which goes back to the conversation we're talking about right now.

Speaker 3 Well, in the entire thing of when he did go in, it wasn't as if the the guys didn't like him. Like, we talked about with Will Howard, like, he's doing dancing with dances with other guys.

Speaker 3 The lineman, after he's throwing touchdowns, are turning around and celebrating with him. Like, clearly, he's also just a football guy, normal.
One of the boys.

Speaker 1 One of the dudes.

Speaker 3 Yeah, exactly. So,

Speaker 3 even that aspect of it, do you think having all the Mannings around will also be a massive benefit for Texas football? Or what do you think?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1 Obviously, I think it's good to have the Mannings around, especially whenever they do the Manning Academy. Yes.
And the whole family's been doing that for however long down there in Louisiana.

Speaker 1 I think the biggest thing is the money gets your players, but what players does it get? Well, it gets the guys that run very fast 40s, right?

Speaker 1 Because they go to these Nike camps and they get these times.

Speaker 1 It's like all the big recruits that you're paying out of high school, at least, are guys that can jump high, run fast, and are projected to be incredible athletes.

Speaker 1 So whenever you think about NFL draft picks, it's always like the guys that are just like incredible. I think Texas is about to have a pipeline.

Speaker 1 The more we think about it here, with the resources that they have, with what they've already shown in the last couple of years, speed, speed, speed is what they're looking for.

Speaker 1 Stark offense is looking for that feed map. I think they're becoming a pipeline.
You talk about the defensive side.

Speaker 2 Yeah, freshman of the year. Last year to beat out Jeremiah Smith.
And what's Simmons? That's Simmons, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's what money gets you through, is the freak athlete.

Speaker 2 And then you have the coaches, and then also them being in the SEC, because now you know you're going to be competing in the best conference in fall football, even though Big Ten did their thing last year.

Speaker 1 It wasn't last year.

Speaker 2 I think the SEC is the best conference of football, so that's also a top bottom.

Speaker 1 Now, with that being said,

Speaker 1 talking about resources and money, a lot of teams up north have the resources and money for football.

Speaker 1 I think that is a genuine conversation that's happening behind the scenes. We should ask Sankey about that next time.

Speaker 1 Like, hey, Sankey, are you worried about all the yuppies up north who create all the CEOs, all the suits, basically? I'm not saying there isn't great business schools in the south.

Speaker 1 I haven't done enough research on that.

Speaker 3 Utah, though, you just mentioned the Walmarts.

Speaker 1 Boom, they got money. Jerry.
They got people. Okay.
You need to have a few of those people at your school. You need it.

Speaker 1 Up there in the north, all these big, they got a lot of money people that are around. Michigan.
Michigan recruited one.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 They recruited maybe the richest.

Speaker 1 So I would like to let the world know that for West Virginia, I am currently recruiting billionaires. Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay. Because it feels like that's the game you're going to need.
West Virginia doesn't have a lot of them coming out of West Virginia University. Got Kendrick.
Yeah. that's all right.

Speaker 1 Great to see him taking a picture of Rod.

Speaker 3 He's in.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 That helps. Need him.

Speaker 3 Yeah, need him all the way in.

Speaker 1 Need him in. Need it.
Brother, we love you. Okay.
We love you. We need you all the way in in that particular game.
But like Penn State,

Speaker 1 I don't want to bring it up every time we talk about this, but literally direct messaging from their school is we can afford anybody at anything at any sport.

Speaker 13 We got it.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 they're doing a $700 million

Speaker 1 rebundle with their stadium. They got that cash, brother.

Speaker 1 Let alone building a roster. They're talking about a $700 million

Speaker 1 just remodel of their stadium. Like, we didn't make this place.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Boom, boom, boom, boom.
I'll tell you what, you donate $10 million. You get access to Speakeasy right down here.

Speaker 1 You can have your own little parking spot, walk in here, got a place to go to the bathroom and a drink during the game. $10 million a year.
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. No problem.

Speaker 1 Bang, bang, bang, bang. They're just able to, they're not the only ones.

Speaker 1 Oregon's able to do the same thing.

Speaker 5 Penn State has more cash than the SEC at the time.

Speaker 1 Yes, definitely.

Speaker 5 Oregon, Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State. Penn State.

Speaker 1 A lot of money. Lot of money.
And a lot of people ready to give. And like, hey, this is the game now.
Deal. We're all the way up.

Speaker 2 Money won't be an issue, but Penn State, they're one of them programs where...

Speaker 1 You got to see it to believe it.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 You know, he's got to see it to believe it. Even like A ⁇ M, you know, Texas A ⁇ M for years.

Speaker 1 All the money.

Speaker 2 Oh, they got all the money, all the resources. Jimbo's making, but like, never could really get over that hump.
Oregon has, you know, gotten there close.

Speaker 2 But the teams that we know have done, like even Texas, Texas have been there before. So we can kind of visualize that.
We can see them being a dominant program. So I got some of these other programs.

Speaker 2 I gotta, I gotta see it.

Speaker 3 Well, and they're not in a conference, but that's probably like Notre Dame this year. It feels like turned a corner.

Speaker 1 They got 12,700 employees. Yeah, bingo.

Speaker 3 I can't imagine what. I can't imagine how many employees Texas has.

Speaker 1 They said they were the number, the number one company voted on, I guess, by 200,000 employees across the U.S.

Speaker 1 Wow. Status.
Number one employer of 2025, Notre Dame.

Speaker 3 That's from Boardroom. I saw something about innovative companies from them, too.

Speaker 1 They put the Catholics up there at number one, brother.

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm. You know? Yeah, but I mean, once you, you know, once you start releasing, I thought I was a pretty good employer.
Weren't we a pretty good employer?

Speaker 1 Did you guys do any votes?

Speaker 1 They didn't ask. And I'll tell you what.
That's what you guys would say, though. That's what you guys would say.

Speaker 3 I wouldn't put Notre Dame at number one. That's for damn sure.
Yeah, and also, it isn't delta having a bunch of planes blow up

Speaker 1 allegedly

Speaker 1 whatever the case um congrats all these companies you're really doing yeah that nvidia logo looks interesting too they're doing great up there

Speaker 1 i don't know why don't you tell me just check it out

Speaker 1 I have to go on Nvidia, they're worth $100 trillion or something like that.

Speaker 1 Google, remember, they have little sleeping pods. I saw that.
They did. They had those sleeping pods.

Speaker 6 Intern out inexpensive burgers. Right.

Speaker 1 You know, yeah, but they're the best in the world. That keeps you

Speaker 1 employees happy.

Speaker 2 Trader Joe's. 45 seconds.
Hell yeah.

Speaker 1 Real deal. I love you.
All right. We will continue on YouTube.
ESPN Plus, Disney Plus, and TikTok Live, which is the exact same place other than ESPN Plus and Disney Plus. That big night out will be.

Speaker 1 We will see you tomorrow here on ESPN. Goodbye.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah, I announced that last night.
Should have done a little bigger announcement.

Speaker 2 Did you know you were announced your last night?

Speaker 1 We decided four minutes before it.

Speaker 1 Cole's like, what am I supposed to say here?

Speaker 1 I'm like,

Speaker 1 what are you saying? He goes, I'm saying bye, ba-ba, sell it, and bah, ba-ba. And then, do you want to, what are you going to say? I was like, we just say I'm streaming it.

Speaker 1 I don't think that's been announced yet. All right.

Speaker 1 Then literally 35 seconds later, it kind of comes together. You know,

Speaker 1 it was kind of... a forced announcement, rushed announcement.
I'll say not forced, a rushed announcement. But that being said, yeah, YouTube, TikTok Live, and X.

Speaker 1 Didn't know, you know, because didn't know if there was going to be a want to go see it, you know.

Speaker 1 Once there was a want to be in the arena, which I appreciate, and then I saw the reaction, it was like, all right, we should do a streaming version of this particular program.

Speaker 1 And WWE will be, you know, camering,

Speaker 1 rigging, setting up, and

Speaker 1 we'll be, yeah, it should be a good little program. I think it's going to be a pretty good little program.
There will also be giveaways for those watching at home. Okay, obviously,

Speaker 1 those will happen via the X platform, you know, because it's the easiest way to search things, find things, and respond in real time. I know there's other platforms that people love.

Speaker 1 I can appreciate whatever your reasoning is. But on X for giveaways, it's the easiest for us because search hashtag we can find literally the time that it's mentioned.

Speaker 1 And if you mess up the hashtag, it's on you. So

Speaker 1 you gotta do the entire thing. So we'll be doing giveaways throughout the entire evening to those watching at home.
And it should be a

Speaker 1 wonderful Wednesday night over there in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania those friends are those their actual silhouettes those are not their actual silhouettes those are bland silhouettes and also I don't know if that's the proper amount of people that will be there that evening okay keep guessing I was about to start making some guesses There's a lot of people guessing on the internet.

Speaker 1 I do appreciate that. Those people guessing things on the internet have led to some uncomfortable conversations between me and people.

Speaker 1 You know, hey, I'm coming. Is this real?

Speaker 1 That'd be cool. That's all I'm going to do.
If I can make it work, I could do a quick turnaround.

Speaker 1 It's a cool position to be in where people do want to actually be on the show, which I thought would be the complete opposite. So I've got a couple text messages.
Hey, I've got my mentions. Have you,

Speaker 1 is there a...

Speaker 1 What am I doing? Is there something to... This will be fun.

Speaker 1 It's like,

Speaker 1 I don't think so. Well, why not?

Speaker 1 There might be an excellent.

Speaker 1 Would that be cool? But it's been a lot of...

Speaker 1 That's going to be fucking cool, man. Oh, yeah.
That's going to be really really cool.

Speaker 1 The people that I'm working with at the WWE uh to piece the in-production shit together, because they obviously do arena shows around the world.

Speaker 1 They are showcasing that, it's been a lot of fun because it feels like they're actually uh pumped up about it as well.

Speaker 1 And I don't know if that's just strictly because they want me to feel good about it or if they actually are pumped, but it feels like they are genuinely pumped up in the amount of ideas that are being pitched now, not only by the WWE and the production folks, but also like the people that have been booked for said show like there is a lot of positive energy going around too much maybe no much no such thing too no such thing there's positive energy yeah you're right because the universe responds to a positive that's right go mana it is ooze it it is you see an oosklahoma drill i did that was cool sounds wild see that i mean i didn't know rugby's doing the oklahoma drill that was but i'll tell you what george foster 72 good follow former teammate of mine offensive lineman in the nfl for a while he is a good follow and i'll tell you what the oosklahoma drill i don't know they're doing this in rugby or if this is uh every day happening but what a collision

Speaker 1 thought the ball carrier lost turns out he ended up winning yeah he they had him in the first half you see and then in the second half he flipped that entire thing around what a collision with no pads on no health yeah guys vertical how to drive your fetal contact True.

Speaker 1 They didn't bring it top your feet.

Speaker 2 I don't know. How to drive your fetal contact.

Speaker 1 Isn't E equals MC squared? I assume there was a math equation happening in old buddy's head as he was running at him.

Speaker 1 If I hit him clean and leave my feet, there's there's no way this guy stays standing. And at the beginning, he was right.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That sternum was collapsing a little bit, but then Ooz just responded, nope, put his foot in the ground and runs him over. What a collision, Tyschmidt.

Speaker 6 I mean,

Speaker 1 both those guys should be dead.

Speaker 6 Realistically, both of those guys should be dead. And I'm guessing that we didn't get the footage, but they probably popped back up and did this like 15, 16 more times.

Speaker 1 Especially with that crowd around you. How could you feel anything with that amount of people, especially under the lights? What a night.

Speaker 1 And thank you to them for doing that there's other magical videos circulating around the internet you know did you see luca hit this shot oh my god what luca donchish from the corner from a volume okay so i believe those are called voms in arenas you take a vom to go back to wherever you need to go before he heads back to the locker room luca donch who has a million trick shots in his arsenal hits that i don't know how that goes in Okay, I put that one out there and I go, well, what the fuck is this?

Speaker 1 Or something like that. I forget my actual tweet about it.
It ended up getting like six million. A lot of people felt the same exact way

Speaker 1 because the physics of that,

Speaker 1 I don't think that is supposed to,

Speaker 1 how high you have to shoot that to be able to come down

Speaker 1 without close it is. And then also skips off the front.
Yeah. And it still goes in.
It's like, what a shot. He has that bounce shot.
He has off the jumbotron shot.

Speaker 1 Luca, you can tell, just grew up throwing a ball at a hoop his entire life. This shot, unbelievable.

Speaker 2 I mean, these guys obviously do it for, you know, this is what they do for doing all their life. So they got trick shots out the ass, but this is crazy.

Speaker 2 I mean, this is like a flop shot, like right over, like, that's

Speaker 2 that's like unbelievable. And we saw

Speaker 2 with some other guys doing it too, but this is Luca. This is something you would expect.

Speaker 2 If I had to pick a guy who could make a guy like this, a shot like this would be Luca and probably two other guys.

Speaker 1 The thing about Luca is whenever you do that,

Speaker 1 you have to say, wow, the hoop looks big tonight. You know, you make 20 in the first quarter after making it.
How could you not? After you make that, it's like everything's falling.

Speaker 2 Lethal Shooter got to do it now.

Speaker 1 Lethal Shooter won't be able to pour that off.

Speaker 2 Let's see if he understands that.

Speaker 1 Lethal shooter will be able to put a bottle in the hoop and he'll throw a gummy somehow over. I understand it.
And somehow that fucker will drop right in there.

Speaker 1 You know who I don't believe and never will anymore?

Speaker 1 Oh, the greatest shooter in history. Tomorrow.
Steph Curry from one Vom all the way to the opposite end of the court.

Speaker 1 Remember, we saw a Sports Illustrated video a few years back where Steph Curry made five full court shots in a row. Then he told us it was just green screen.

Speaker 1 He wouldn't be able to do that before a game. Oh,

Speaker 2 fake that one.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 I lost my mind. I said, holy shit, Steph Curry's a guy that didn't go in.
What?

Speaker 1 Saw it.

Speaker 1 Are you shitting me? There's multiple other angles that didn't go in. Yeah, look.

Speaker 1 Didn't go in.

Speaker 5 That's not Seth's fault.

Speaker 1 Didn't go in. Now they clap for him.
Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 So he's just got to kind of take that and kind of move, I guess. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, you think he knows knows it didn't go in?

Speaker 5 Huh? You think he knows it didn't go in?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's Steph Curry.

Speaker 1 I mean, he knows. No, watch it.

Speaker 14 Watch his reaction after this shot. He like goes, he puts his fingers up, like, just so close.
I almost made that.

Speaker 1 Okay, so you think he was trying to tell the crowd I didn't do it. Exactly.
But the internet didn't understand that. I was forced this on my algo saying, look what Steph just did.

Speaker 1 Wait for it.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. He shook his head.

Speaker 14 Look at that guy.

Speaker 14 So close right there. So close.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay, okay.
Okay. So we should.

Speaker 1 I apologize. Yeah, we do apologize.
All right. Okay, not Steph's fault.
Internet's fault for sure for telling us it was a makeup. Definitely.
Because we go from Luca to this.

Speaker 1 I'm like, these dudes need to. These dudes need to go on Thor.
Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 I don't know what all trick shots they got in their bag, but this is an unbelievable thing. So it's not Steph's fault.

Speaker 2 Sports Illustrated thing.

Speaker 3 That was his fault.

Speaker 1 100 completely. Yeah, that.
That can't be happening.

Speaker 1 Very makeable. I think he would have been able to make.

Speaker 7 On the other side, though.

Speaker 3 Especially after watching that.

Speaker 1 I think he would, because he read the curve of it.

Speaker 3 And where he was in the Sports Illustrated video, he wasn't in a vom. He was like in front of the net.
And in this, yeah, there it is. Here it is.

Speaker 3 It's like, okay, now I definitely believe he could do this, but I never would if he did.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like, why wouldn't Steph be able to do this? Of course he can.

Speaker 2 Maybe we're not the demo.

Speaker 1 What do you mean?

Speaker 2 I mean, because when we were kids, there were some commercials that completely captivated us.

Speaker 1 The LeBron one. Yeah, LeBron, Brad.
Michael Vick thrills. Was that T.O.

Speaker 3 or? Andre Johnson.

Speaker 1 Andre Johnson, Michael Vick. I thought those were real.
It was like, well, okay.

Speaker 2 It's real. Nobody could convince me otherwise.

Speaker 6 Amazing Crosby kicking the bell tower. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was awesome. Yeah.
There are some great ones. I mentioned it there.
Beckham hitting the garbage cans. Do you remember that out there on the beach? Yep.
I thought, yeah, he could probably do that.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I thought, yeah, David Beckham could do that.
That one? I thought, yeah, Steph could do that.

Speaker 5 Was it Ronald Dino off the goalposts?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 like the volleys.

Speaker 2 Tom Brady just did one in the jugs machine.

Speaker 1 Well, you could tell he had his ears. You could tell he hit off his ears.

Speaker 6 Damn Marina,

Speaker 1 throwing it from the boat.

Speaker 12 That one was real.

Speaker 2 Let's not go too far. Dan Marino is fucking real.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 Vic actually threw that football out of the stadium.

Speaker 1 I believed it.

Speaker 5 At the time, I thought he did.

Speaker 1 The coolest one was the NBA. Which one?

Speaker 3 The Jingle Bells one, where they actually shot all those balls.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're talking about the eight hoops? The eight hoops, yeah.

Speaker 7 You said that wasn't real?

Speaker 1 That was fun. That was fun to see them kind of all get on the same page like that.

Speaker 1 That's good to see teamwork. I I like that type of stuff.
Speaking of LeBron James will be on the show, probably tomorrow. What? What? Okay.

Speaker 1 Probably tomorrow. Holy shit.

Speaker 1 That's insane. None of us really fully.

Speaker 1 No, it's going to happen.

Speaker 3 I believe it when I see it.

Speaker 1 That's the big thing.

Speaker 3 When I see that it is currently happening.

Speaker 1 Would be so cool. If it was to happen.
And we'd be very pumped about it. Yes.
But a lot of things seemingly have to fall into place here. And we're hoping that it does.
We're hoping that it does.

Speaker 1 Our show show is not based downtown indianapolis no so we are just hoping that that information has been

Speaker 1 it's within the vicinity i've been told it has

Speaker 1 vicinity is a good good way to say how movie we got same state of workout is yeah i mean why not do the shooter around here it's a little bit of a drive though he's used to it though l a big yeah it's like the same thing oh land in lay you know like i mean it's gonna take you know 20 25 30 minutes to get there no big deal you're used to it i just i wanted to make sure that that message was said to him because i don't need him to land and then get told what it is.

Speaker 1 And they go, I'm not doing that. Yeah, true.
So I just would like it to be told.

Speaker 1 Hey, did you relay the message? Yep, they said he does know. I'm like, that's what it is right now, though.
Like, you guys Google the map now, what it will be at that time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it'll be all right. He's in.
It's all right. We can't wait to talk to you, bro.

Speaker 1 King James, LeBron James.

Speaker 2 There's some good songs going on. Going around the internet.

Speaker 1 What's that?

Speaker 3 LeBron James. Oh, man.
The LeBron James mixes. Someone did.
A screen we listened to was Hey There, Delilah. You know that song? Yeah.
And someone did Hey There, LeBron.

Speaker 3 And I mean, there are these mixes of songs going around in there.

Speaker 1 Are they saying LA City or New York City? What's the next one?

Speaker 3 To be honest, I don't remember specifically. I do.
Hey there in LeBron.

Speaker 1 What's it like in LA City?

Speaker 3 Or it's like, what's it like being the goat or something like that?

Speaker 1 Okay, so we're completely.

Speaker 14 I know it's just saying LA City. Okay, sweet.

Speaker 1 So I hadn't heard it, but sounds like I. It's a TikTok thing.
I understand it now. Yeah.
Bingo.

Speaker 1 TikTok's wacky, man zany yeah we're on there we're on there a lot yeah a lot of people get their information from our tick tock i guess oh yeah nice i find that out when i'm out and about you know that's an interesting little piece of information i'll say it every time they're the most positive community out there out of all social media yeah so they're real so positive yeah so positive they're very nice they're real shots of tick tock

Speaker 2 daughter's one of them

Speaker 1 your daughter big tick tocker yeah

Speaker 1 her friend group like a huge tick tockers they dance

Speaker 2 uh yeah but not as much.

Speaker 2 That kind of gets annoying.

Speaker 1 Why?

Speaker 2 You gotta understand that they're kids, so you know, I'm going to practice. I'm sitting on the sideline in there over there, you know, five minutes before practice in there.

Speaker 1 Lock in!

Speaker 2 I just gotta do it. Yeah, I just gotta relax.

Speaker 1 Hey, we're not TikTok.

Speaker 1 Okay, I'm gonna ban it from the locker room. You can be on TikTok.
You just can't dance on TikTok. That's a rich run.

Speaker 1 I know they're gonna be on it, so I can't just ban the app. I wish I could.
Fuck, I wish I could. They just can't fucking dance on the app.
You see?

Speaker 1 they can fucking open it, but when they open it, I better not see them in fucking tits in our locker room dancing. Okay, hard edge.

Speaker 1 What's hard edge about you fucking in your spanks? Love that. Dancing around on TikTok.
That was Rich Rod's message to the team. Good message.
Made sense. Great mess.

Speaker 1 And you

Speaker 1 delete the app.

Speaker 1 I really do wonder how these kids feel going from Neil Brown to Rich Rodriguez. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, there's a review that has similar messages.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 So many people enter the portal. I would like to see the numbers on West Virginia.

Speaker 1 I mean, I couldn't imagine. It just, we went from Rich Rodriguez to Bill Stewart, rest in peace, who's a legend.
But with Bill Stewart came a new strength coach who's still there.

Speaker 1 Mike Joseph is a great dude. But just the entire culture was very different than what it was with Richard.
Rich Rod is like, hey, we're on time. We're working our asses off.

Speaker 1 And we're just, we're all, we are.

Speaker 1 You are all in.

Speaker 1 This is all the time. This is what we are.
And then everything else is like, you know, like, it's just a little bit different. Like, everybody's culture is a little bit different.

Speaker 1 From what I got to experience briefly with Neil Brown's culture and what we know about Neil, Neil

Speaker 1 represented West Virginia with a lot of class. And I think he was an incredibly nice guy.
He was giving credit to the other coach all the time. You know, credit to this team, credit to that team.

Speaker 1 He was very respectful. Like, I do appreciate that.
But I think they had a different culture than what Rich Rod would have.

Speaker 1 And i wonder now after one spring especially with that transfer portal thing available like what guys are going to do you know because i assume there is an easier way that they've already like maybe experienced like hey it doesn't have to be

Speaker 1 you know so i do wonder about that but are we at a time now where people are understanding where uh you're it's good to be held accountable whenever you're trying to become like an adult like it's good to be coached it's good to go really hard it's good to do these things like i think at the beginning of the transfer portal, it was like, I don't like you.

Speaker 1 And transfer. You're mean, transfer, all those things.
He just talked about 700 guys in a portal or whatever it is in an entire thing. I think at the beginning of the portal, there's a lot of that.

Speaker 1 I wonder if we're getting to a point now where maybe there's a little bit more like, hey, got to go through a little bit of adverse. I hope so.
I hope so, too. You need it.
You need it.

Speaker 2 You hear a lot of the coaches talk about it. I'm sure players probably talk about it amongst themselves.
So many people go into the portal and then get just get left high and dry.

Speaker 2 And then I feel very, very bad for the high school kids where they don't have the same opportunity that we had when we were coming out.

Speaker 2 So if you are in a spot, if you are in a spot where you can't compete, you got a coach who cares about the program, cares about your development.

Speaker 2 Obviously, every situation is different and unique in its own. But as a general statement, I would say, you know, grind it out, man.

Speaker 2 You're going to have some adversity. You may like to get in the play.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And take the hard coach or whatever it is. Hey, go and have a, most coaches have an open door policy.

Speaker 2 I'm sure Rich Rod was like this when you guys were there, to go in there and ask him, hey, what can I do better? What do I need to do better? What do I need to do to get the playing time that I want?

Speaker 2 And most coaches will be real with you because, shit, you got options now anyway. So have that man-to-man conversation, a woman-to-woman conversation, depending on whatever program you're in.

Speaker 2 And, you know, get it done and fight through some adversity.

Speaker 1 There's an open door policy over there, but he also will open a door for you to get in there a couple times. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, it was a good converse.

Speaker 1 I've heard five different fucking stories from last night. They all start at your fucking house.

Speaker 1 It was a duplex, you know.

Speaker 1 I was in bed, whatever, yeah. Well, yeah, you were, it was your house.
Yeah, I was in my,

Speaker 1 I was there, I was at my house. How come everybody's saying

Speaker 1 we were gathering, we had a camaraderie chemistry building cookout

Speaker 1 yesterday.

Speaker 1 I guess that's where everybody started at. You know where you're going to start each day? For the next week? Fucking stairs, 6 a.m.
I'm fucking sick of it. All right.

Speaker 1 Okay, I'm going to get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 1 How to go in there? Terrible. 6 a.m.
stairs tomorrow. Yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah. That's how everybody reacted.

Speaker 2 That's how we started the season. Is it basketball gym?

Speaker 1 Stairs? No, no, it's the football stadium. Ooh.

Speaker 1 Yeah, 6 a.m. That was the beginning of the season.
Because this is after training camp, you see?

Speaker 2 Yeah, we had 6 a.m. That was our punishment, too.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was no fun.

Speaker 1 That was no fun at all.

Speaker 2 Sandbags, too.

Speaker 1 No, I didn't have to.

Speaker 2 Because

Speaker 2 we had to run because our stadium was off campus, but the old stadium was still on campus, Memorial Phil. Much shorter stadium, so wasn't high enough.
60-pound sandbags.

Speaker 1 Jeez. So, yeah.
Yeah, you guys did have that lower.

Speaker 3 Yeah, because no one cared.

Speaker 2 Well, the old stadium. And then we built

Speaker 2 the new one that was Phil, the house that Dono built.

Speaker 2 The house that Orlowski built, exactly. And then, you know, got ranked for the first time, played on ESPN a bunch into BCS Bowl.

Speaker 1 Who'd you play on ESPN all the time?

Speaker 2 You guys, Pittsburgh. How'd it go? Bruckers, Cincy.

Speaker 1 Louisville, even? Louisville, a lot of bangers.

Speaker 1 They have a great time playing Delphi.

Speaker 2 You know, they were ahead of the game. You know, that tricky shit with Pat White.

Speaker 1 That's Rich Delphi. He's unstoppable.
That's right.

Speaker 2 Five minutes just running like

Speaker 1 Pat White and Steve Slate were unstoppable.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that was some video game shit.

Speaker 1 For like a year and a half, two years, it was just like unstoppable. And then packets hurt.

Speaker 1 I have a terrible first quarter. We don't play well.
And now it's like rich moves on the Michigan. And then that whole era just got like forgotten about.
Like, don't even talk about it. Ended bad.

Speaker 1 We don't want to hear about it. And I'm just like, God damn.
Like, I understand that it ended bad, but I think we should talk about Pat White and Steve Slayton a little bit more.

Speaker 1 Because what Pat was able to do there is just, he won five straight bowl games, including senior bowl, obviously. Like one of the best leaders of all time.

Speaker 1 And whenever he was on a football field, it felt like he was going to score every time he got the ball. And if not him, somebody else was.

Speaker 1 And we were obviously running the fucking, you know, option zone or whatever you get it, RPO, I guess they call it now.

Speaker 1 But you had Owen Schmidt, who was 250, 60 pounds, whatever it was, hang cleaning like 400 pounds, just like an absolute monster.

Speaker 1 He's either taking the dive or Steve Slayton's getting the pitch or Pat White's going to cut it and go. And it was like,

Speaker 1 it was unstoppable. It wasn't.

Speaker 2 Because it was something you only saw maybe once, twice a year. And nobody else had a Pat White, the Steve Slayton.

Speaker 1 And Darius Reynolds.

Speaker 2 reynolds reynold out there and they went on to get yvine and and all these other athletes so yeah it was it was it was but i mean there was big east pat white murdered a guy against you concrete murdered yeah it was the league that would have been he would have been kicked out of the game it was bush league but uh those big east days were some

Speaker 2 murder days good days shady mccoy and that doing pittsburgh ray rice brian leonard at rutgers and up kenny britt like i think i just got shady's number yeah brian kelly what's shady's shady's on the facility The facility.

Speaker 2 Yeah. What's it called?

Speaker 3 The facility.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think he is on the facility.

Speaker 1 I just got his number. I just got connected with him.

Speaker 1 I don't think I've. I haven't talked to him in a long time.
Yeah, he was great. Yeah.
I mean, just fucking. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Donald Brown, obviously, can't go out with Mitchin. 2,000.
First round draft pick. 2,000-yard back.

Speaker 1 Indianapolis Colts.

Speaker 2 First-round pick, I believe, from UConn.

Speaker 1 Wow, good times.

Speaker 1 You guys stopped giving him a ball against us his senior year. He had a fumble in the first half, and then second half, you guys didn't give him the ball.
We won.

Speaker 2 But like,

Speaker 1 it feels like if you would have given him a the ball, he had something going.

Speaker 1 He had something.

Speaker 2 He was our offense.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he certainly was. And he was awesome.
He ran like perfect form running. He was a good dude.
That was like we played Calvin Johnson and Roman Reigns in the Gator Bowl.

Speaker 1 And they didn't throw to Calvin Johnson in the whole second half. It was awesome.
It was like we were so happy and thankful they didn't do that.

Speaker 1 It was just like I was, I didn't fully, I wasn't like a, I won't, I feel like my football IQ, good, not great next to everybody else, but at the time it was very limited.

Speaker 1 I was just like a football fan at the time. And boy, you'd see some teams do some stuff, and it's like,

Speaker 1 they got this guy, we don't.

Speaker 2 Did I not see number 21 out there? I had to, before we played him, my coach was like, if I was Georgia Tate, I would throw the ball to 21 50 times. Everybody just live with the result.

Speaker 2 Like, the first time I lined up against Calvin, like, I, like, you see him on tape, but when he stood across from you, it was like his fucking hands were scraping the ground while he stood in his stance.

Speaker 2 And then he was faster than anybody else in the field. The shit he did, like, even on the the video game, like, it was like, he was a video game out there in real life.

Speaker 2 I think was Reggie Ball the quarterback, or was it Taylor Bennett, the lefty?

Speaker 1 I think it was Bennett. Oh, I don't know.

Speaker 2 Lefty white dude. Yes.

Speaker 1 Okay. I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 2 Okay. Reggie Ball is a super athletic number one righty.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 2 He was either one of those. Tatari choices.

Speaker 1 Is this a Yukon hit? Is this a Yukon hit right here? Okay, let's go. Come on.
Let's relive this. I think this is on Thursday night.
Steve Slayton gets the pitch. Owen Schmidt murders somebody.

Speaker 1 Somebody fills the gap. Crackback coming.
Boom.

Speaker 1 Oh, I remember that. That's Bat White and then a horse caller, obviously.
Horse caller.

Speaker 2 That was me diving in there late.

Speaker 1 Extra 15. Hopefully we got there.
Hopefully, I got a half a tackle. Yeah, that was our quarterback, though.
That was our quarterback. Just killed him.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's, you know, that's Bush League.

Speaker 1 Here's a nice slow-mo. Look at the Mount Air Maniacs getting after it.
Obviously, good times back there. There's a,

Speaker 1 here it is.

Speaker 1 How old are we? Hey, look at, look at the, anytime I look at old highlights, it's like, wow, it's amazing how much technology has changed. Bang, dead.

Speaker 11 That's Bat White football, baby.

Speaker 1 I wasn't lofted. Good effort, butch.

Speaker 2 That was, you know.

Speaker 1 Great effort, yeah.

Speaker 2 Taking away the touchdown.

Speaker 1 Oh, there's the dive with Edwin Schmidt. Yeah, I mean, just classic, literally what we did there.
Pitch, cutback. Now we're running either a dive or a pitch.

Speaker 2 It's not fun.

Speaker 1 Boom!

Speaker 1 Boom! Took out two. If you're a good man, get one.
If you're a great, get two. That's what Pat White did.

Speaker 2 Dana Dulles did.

Speaker 1 Big East was all. That was probably Thursday night football, too.
For sure.

Speaker 1 That was before the NFL was on Thursday. So our numbers on Thursday night night were absurd.
And it was a spectacle. And then on the sideline was Rich Rodriguez.

Speaker 1 Give me the fuck.

Speaker 2 We got some coaches, too. Rich Rod, I think Wanstead.
Yeah. Was it a pit? In Brian Kelly, Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 Petrino?

Speaker 2 Petrino at Louisville.

Speaker 5 It was either Wanstead or the. What was his name?

Speaker 1 Wansted was there?

Speaker 5 He went to Stanford after.

Speaker 5 Can't remember then.

Speaker 1 Big East was awesome. Shaw.
Howland.

Speaker 1 No, that's basketball. Ben Howland.
Jamie Dixon. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Also basketball. Big East was great.
It was.

Speaker 2 Good days.

Speaker 1 It was an honor to be a part of it. Good run, gentlemen.

Speaker 2 It was an honor.

Speaker 1 It's a good run.

Speaker 1 Louisville was really good at that time. Yeah.
Brian Brahm.

Speaker 1 Walter. Douglas.

Speaker 3 Mike Bush. Yeah.

Speaker 11 He was a fucking tank.

Speaker 1 There was a Bush chant, the one game we played where he came out. He just broke his leg.
So he was on crutches. And it was, I think it was a Thursday night game.

Speaker 1 We always played on Thursday night. Yeah, like before Mac, it was always like a Thursday night game.
He came out. That entire place was transformed.
It had to feel so cool. He was so big.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And who was the

Speaker 1 we just talked about it?

Speaker 1 D-Tackle, the kid who was super young.

Speaker 1 Nigerian name.

Speaker 1 Mbobia Koya. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I think

Speaker 2 he was young, probably like 17 when he first hit the scene.

Speaker 1 He was just picking dudes up.

Speaker 2 Yeah, 16, 17. I think he went to the league like 19, 20 or something crazy like that.

Speaker 2 Who else was there? Tight end?

Speaker 2 Barnage? Gary Barnage?

Speaker 1 Tight end?

Speaker 2 Travis kelsey was in uh since

Speaker 1 same with jason kelsey

Speaker 2 harry douglas you were gonna say yeah i think i saw him run by me one time on a return he spit in your face didn't he butt yeah uh no he spit in teammates in my face he kicked me he hit me in the nuts

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 1 he's a bit of a dog yeah cock checks

Speaker 2 we've made amends yes

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Speaker 1 Spores! Great work yesterday by Ian Raphael.

Speaker 1 Baby round.

Speaker 1 Appreciate you doing that rap sheet. He took a victory lap on the insiders.
I don't know if you saw that. Talked about how much he crushed it.
And I agree.

Speaker 1 It was an honor to chit-chat with him from Scotland. Obviously, last night's Monday night at Raw River in Glasgow.
It was insane. Did you see John Cena? Crazy.
What's he doing? He's gone.

Speaker 1 He said, you're horrible people. I know.
You say you're horrible people.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's over for John.

Speaker 1 Then he talked about that kid, like, just buried him yet again. And he said, you guys cheered for me burying that kid.
You're terrible people. You shot profanities.
You're childish.

Speaker 1 You're terrible people. He's just letting these people know.
And I saw some kids in the crowd over there in Glasgow who,

Speaker 1 what do we do? Say,

Speaker 1 John. And John Cena said, what did you do? Not enough.
And

Speaker 1 that was an uncomfortable situation out there. I'm going to say, Debuts, nine-year-old NFL vet, Darius J.
Butler. I was uncomfortable listening to John Cena talk to the crowd like that.

Speaker 2 I was, too. And I was sitting about two seats down right over in the Thunderdome in the think tank from Debone.
And he was shouting profanity at John Cena. Really?

Speaker 1 He was going along with the championship. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. So, everything that Cena was saying, he was saying it right to him.
So, it was good to see exactly who he was talking to. And I'm going to stand on what I said last week.
They deserve it.

Speaker 1 They deserve it.

Speaker 2 Everybody that John Cena.

Speaker 2 In every universe that Debone's in, he deserves it.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 I don't love that about Debo, and I don't think Debone loves it either, but there was supportive. Debone's been a supporter of John Cena since the beginning.
Yeah. Since the very beginning.

Speaker 1 We're talking wearing the headband on the head. Yeah.
And wearing a wristband on his bicep.

Speaker 2 And the you can't see me joke. It wasn't funny.

Speaker 1 It was, though. It's never been funny.
It was funny. Look, that is Debone right there.
He is that kid. He was once that kid.
That's how long John Cena, you know, has been doing it. And

Speaker 1 Debone was heartbroken. And I saw a little boy over here to my right last night who very obviously was being told to boo Cena.
Oh, no. But he didn't want to.

Speaker 1 He's a sweet boy. He didn't want to do it.
Tearing him apart.

Speaker 3 He was.

Speaker 1 He was tearing him apart with

Speaker 1 Cena.

Speaker 1 Yeah, legit. It was bad.

Speaker 5 Who was telling him to boo?

Speaker 1 You can tell people around him.

Speaker 1 People around him were like, we don't like that.

Speaker 5 That's how Scotland rolls.

Speaker 1 I don't think it's just Scotland. I think it's WWE Universe right now.
I think there's some people that went to music, it's, you know, it all goes.

Speaker 1 Natural reaction is John Cena's here, and then people have to be reminded. We don't like this guy anymore.
He don't like us. He sold out.
He said some terrible things. He has sold out.
He sold out.

Speaker 3 He sold out to big corporate fat cats. He sold out to China.
He sold out to many things. And it feels like now, John, the clock's ticking.
And I'm glad his time is up.

Speaker 1 Now, with that being said, D-Bone has purchased the newest shirt, fresh off of last night's promo. John Cena said he's going to win the title.
Then he's going to retire. Forex.

Speaker 1 And they're going to hell? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Obviously, Forex is alarming.

Speaker 1 Holy God. Fuck.
Bone, bone. Come on, Bone, some vegetables.
I walked out there. He was eating fortune cookies.
He wasn't even taking a paper out of it. He was just housing fortune cookies.

Speaker 1 And he had four to five of them, which means he ordered enough for the Chinese food company to think that this was a four to five person meal because they try to give as many fortune cookies to as many people they think are going to be eating.

Speaker 1 So we need to watch his Debones. I saw him eat four.
He might have been given six. How many orders did this guy say? I want a number two.
I want a 10. I want a 38.

Speaker 1 And then they were like, well, there's got to be 100 people.

Speaker 1 How many? And then he's just eating them. Debone.
Good lord.

Speaker 6 Tell me he got Chinese again today?

Speaker 1 Did you know yesterday?

Speaker 6 He got Chinese yesterday as well.

Speaker 1 After a

Speaker 1 sturdy breakfast. Debone, enough.
Sturdy breakfast. You're going to die.
Okay, take care of yourself. I know you're.

Speaker 1 Huh?

Speaker 6 They shrink.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 6 The shirts shrink.

Speaker 1 Oh, so you can't. Order does.

Speaker 1 I mean, we know. We can't say it.
You know what?

Speaker 6 You might be on to something there.

Speaker 1 All right, good call, Debone. All right, all right.
We're happy to see you're not 4X on your way to five, is what he's saying. 4x.

Speaker 6 It also doesn't help. You got to wash it 100 times when you're spilling mustard all over it and all that kind of stuff every single time you wear it.

Speaker 6 So, you know, most people are washing that thing, what, two, three times a month. D-Bone's got to wash it.

Speaker 1 Is this D-Bone's first place of work? Feels like we.

Speaker 6 I believe he worked for the Kane County Cougars, which is a ball team. So he was going to...

Speaker 1 Oh, was he doing it from home? I think he was doing a lot of

Speaker 1 remote stuff.

Speaker 6 I assume he said, hey, if I can't come in and get at least 10 hot dogs from the concession stand every single day, I'm not working for you guys.

Speaker 3 That's part of the contract. Yeah.
Yeah. And he's got to wash it too because, boy, does he smell bad right now.
He's sweating like a grease pig, man.

Speaker 1 Debone?

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's rude.

Speaker 1 Does he know that? Does he know that?

Speaker 1 Connor is rolled in both ways.

Speaker 2 I was watching last week when he came and stood there.

Speaker 2 That was rude.

Speaker 1 What, the one Debo, what Connor was saying? Yeah, we were.

Speaker 3 Walk my shoes, buds. Okay.
You'd be sitting over here. You'd be saying, P you, just like me.

Speaker 1 No, you should. Yeah.

Speaker 3 No, that wouldn't even do it justice.

Speaker 1 Debone, take care of yourself, okay?

Speaker 1 We love you, Debone.

Speaker 3 Graveyards yawn when he's rolling bro.

Speaker 1 Okay?

Speaker 3 That's when you know. That's when you know.
Boy, oh boy, we got we got a shite-smelling fatso on our heads.

Speaker 1 That's not true. Debone, that is not true.
We don't agree with that. But I will say, Debone, you're really good at what you do.
You got great energy in here. We need you to live.
Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 You're way too young. Yeah, we love you.
For these things to be being said about you. Okay?

Speaker 1 You get to 30, you know you get a kid you get married then you let yourself go those things happen fine right now can't be happening Debo his national champion jersey is hanging in the locker right now bone or sorry Debuts gasped yesterday he said that's how that's how you're the size you used to be no those are tight jerseys listen we don't need to be making this guy is a big guy right now he's living he's retired athlete national champion yeah you're right you have to say football player i have not seen it yeah you haven't seen it how long's it been hanging in there maybe i've seen it oh i always thought it was a replica that's his actual yeah i believe that's his actual and i know he's retired, but you know, you hope for like a fanica retirement, not a.

Speaker 3 I don't want to bury the person.

Speaker 1 Smart. That's very nice of you to do that.
And let's continue to lift up Debone. Debone.

Speaker 5 Well, eight or ten of us can lift him up.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 3 That maybe has a team.

Speaker 2 Usos, but

Speaker 1 Jimmy and Jay. That was positive.
That was great to see. That was really great to see.
It was, it was.

Speaker 1 Connor just showed me who he was going to refer to. I don't know.

Speaker 1 It was good to see Jimmy and Jay.

Speaker 1 I'm happy you didn't do that. Me too.
Okay, very kind of you.

Speaker 1 Nobody ever talks about those moments. No, no, they don't.
Yeah, everybody always talks about when we, maybe too much. How about whenever we choose not to? Yeah, restraint.
That's very nice of us.

Speaker 1 Very kind of us. We're adults.
So are you? Jimmy and Jay, last night was great to see. Yeah.
How about motivational speech from Big Jim as well?

Speaker 1 Simple as this. He slipped right in front of me.

Speaker 1 What was he doing? Gunther was reeling. Then he's going to spear.
He slips right in front of me. It's like, what are you,

Speaker 1 Jay? Just spear the fucking guy. Yeah.
What do we, you know, and Gunther obviously, attack from a blind side, which we don't like.

Speaker 1 Yeet, the whole place, obviously, Scotland was yeeting 10,900 plus yeeting alongside of him. And I'm very thankful we didn't do last week's 10-minute yeet.
They did. Remember that?

Speaker 1 We're watching here from the Thunderdome. And the entire Netflix commercial break, which is also international, they're watching through the entire time, just yeeting for 10 minutes straight.

Speaker 1 I'm happy that I wouldn't have made it. Yeah.
Especially in my kilt, obviously. But yeah, Yeet.
Okay. And Grayson Waller, Aussie lad, calls himself an Aussie icon.
Him and Austin are

Speaker 1 they, it feels like they could, they have the male. They're strapping young ladies.
They have the, they have everything you just right here. It's all right here.

Speaker 1 When are they gonna, when are they gonna flip the switch? You know, when are they gonna become professional lads? Yeah, when are they gonna take it to the next level?

Speaker 1 We all wait, but we know the USOs are gonna be in the Hall of Fame, and it was great to watch them work in Scotland. One half of the hammer, Cowboys AP Tone is here.

Speaker 1 Cam Ward Tone

Speaker 1 did a little chat yet again, this time with Rich Eisen, about Aaron Rodgers potentially coming to the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 1 Remember, there was a quote, Cam Hayward saying, you want to be a Steeler or you don't. And then obviously that was aggregated and taken out.

Speaker 1 And Cam was like, I'm just like, I'm literally just saying that. He clarified a little bit with Rich Eisen.
Here it is.

Speaker 4 You know, it's funny. Everybody gave me crap.
They said I called him out.

Speaker 1 I don't think I really called him out.

Speaker 4 I just said

Speaker 2 I was not going to go on a darkness retreat to recruit him.

Speaker 4 But if he wants to be a Steeler, he can be a Steeler.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 4 He doesn't, that's, that's the pitch.

Speaker 4 I just want to win games and play good football in all seriousness and i will give you the floor on this guy signs you got our own problem anybody who signs uh i welcome to the team um you know i don't i don't have an ego and think like we can't win with a guy i get excited for a team um you know you bring a guy on like that uh he's got a good knowledge of the game um and i think he can only help you're 15 man and you want to talk about how things have changed for the steelers

Speaker 16 trading a draft choice a for b a wide receiver and C, giving them the contract that they gave DK Metcalf.

Speaker 16 If I told you that over the first few years of the Steelers, you'd say, what team is this again, right?

Speaker 4 You know, I think we're in a state of

Speaker 4 urgency. We have a lot of guys that,

Speaker 4 like myself, that are in the latter stages of their career, and we all want to win.

Speaker 4 It's not just enough to win a playoff game, which we haven't won in a couple years,

Speaker 4 and there's a bad taste in our mouth because of that.

Speaker 16 Yeah, and that's why you're talking about an urgency with a bunch of

Speaker 16 OGs that

Speaker 16 might be looking at the clock on the wall a little bit here. To be honest, that's why Rogers is kind of a fit there, if you think about it, right?

Speaker 16 I mean, like, I don't know how much time he considers in his head that he does have left, but it would be similar to what you might be thinking, Cam, you know,

Speaker 16 and others on the team.

Speaker 1 That's kind of why it sounds like it's a fit.

Speaker 1 So, with all that being said, shout out to Rich Eisen, by the way, him dropping OGs casually.

Speaker 1 Pretty sweet of that.

Speaker 1 And, you know, know, the editor there making Cam's head the entire screen. I understand different sizes, especially for TikTok or a reel.
Cam Hayward does have a gigantic head.

Speaker 1 It's actually a part of the reason why he's so damn good. It's in his family.
His dad's name was Ironhead.

Speaker 1 So him being on a squad, 15 years in, certified Hall of Famer, I think everybody says, Yens or legend. Him talking about the state of urgency.

Speaker 1 I saw as soon as he said that to Rich, you nodded your head as a yes. And also him saying, I wasn't calling out Aaron Rogers.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying like, hey, you either want to be here or you don't, which I think is what Aaron's potentially trying to figure out right now. I've not talked to Aaron.

Speaker 1 How'd you take away from what Cam just said, and how do you feel about where the state of the Steelers is right now?

Speaker 5 I couldn't agree more with what Rich and Cam were both saying. And yeah, I mean, Cam's been there for 15 years.
TJ's been there for a long time. Mink has been there for a long time.

Speaker 5 Last year, they were the highest-paid defense in the NFL. And not only the team are they getting antsy, the fan base is getting super antsy.
It's at a boiling point.

Speaker 1 Loud.

Speaker 5 Yeah, loud. It's at a boiling point, to be honest, if it keeps continuing like this.

Speaker 5 But no, I agreed with everything they said.

Speaker 5 And Cam, his original comments, I had no problem with,

Speaker 5 you know, because I think the longer that it goes on, I worry that Aaron is not going to be a Steeler, and I do want him to be a Steeler.

Speaker 5 You know, they had the meeting, the six-hour meeting on Friday, which everyone said went well. Rap said everything went well.
Your sources said everything went well.

Speaker 5 Not sure what the holdup is at this point. Let's, you know,

Speaker 1 everybody's assuming my source was Aaron.

Speaker 5 I don't know. I just, you just said source cis, so I didn't know.

Speaker 1 Because, you know, we have people in Pittsburgh. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I reached out.

Speaker 1 But a lot of people said it went bosses.

Speaker 5 Everyone said that he was great in the building, who met him. They said he was great.

Speaker 5 So, yeah, let's get a name on a dotted line and let's play some football.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and

Speaker 1 what I do wonder, like you said, the longer it goes,

Speaker 1 the less likely you feel like he's going to be a Pittsburgh Steeler, especially after a six-hour visit. It's like, I do wonder what all he's contemplating.

Speaker 1 The Aaron Rodgers brain, though, does operate in that fashion, especially first time ever being a free agent, I think. Yes.
First time ever in his life he's been a free agent also

Speaker 1 certified career like

Speaker 1 mount rushmore legacy built football yeah rich

Speaker 1 just became philanthropist of the year that's right and uh cali yeah oh you know for giving back everything yeah like

Speaker 1 i think everything he's accomplished would already say like hey you've done good you know and you can just literally ride into the sunset and if that sunset is you actually hopping on a ship and trying to get to the sun or to the moon yeah whatever like either or you could go do all of those things I do wonder what, and obviously,

Speaker 1 he and I have not chatted throughout this entire thing. I assume he's talked to AJ.
Honestly, I assume that there has been some sort of chatter with AJ. Has AJ brought it up? Probably not.

Speaker 1 I mean, that is classic A.J. Hawk football.
But what do you think is all going through his mind?

Speaker 1 And the more you've thought about him with the Steelers, where do you kind of sit at now, nine year in a Philippine?

Speaker 2 The more I think about it, the more I see it happening. Honestly, you don't want it, especially if you're a Steeler fan, you don't want it lingering.

Speaker 2 But the more I see it happening, and if not, going into the draft, once the draft hits, I feel like that's where I'll kind of give up hope and start looking at, hey, Jackson Dart or Quinn, maybe, depending on how it's programmed.

Speaker 2 2020.

Speaker 1 I do wonder if...

Speaker 2 If you start kind of mind shifting there, but you talked about all the things in the accolades, like if those guys, if they come back, you know, it's always more. You know, they always want more.

Speaker 2 So I'm sure Aaron Rodgers want to go more. You're going to a place that is built.
They have pieces where they can win right now. And that is a place.
That is a program.

Speaker 2 where getting to the playoffs, winning a division, those things aren't good enough. You want to compete and win for a title.
And it's been a long time since they've done that.

Speaker 2 So up there, I saw one of the bullet points said money was not discussed during the six-hour.

Speaker 1 It was already agreed to.

Speaker 2 Allegedly. So the money's already...

Speaker 1 There's already been like

Speaker 1 an issue. The money's not an issue.
Allegedly, money has already been like, yep, that'll be enough. We got it.
And they say, yeah, we'll give it to you.

Speaker 1 So like, now, granted, getting down into the nitty-gritty, when's everything guaranteed and what are the bonuses look like? That's a whole nother conversation.

Speaker 1 But allegedly, there has already been contract in parameters that both sides have said that's good.

Speaker 1 Back to what you said, though, that was a very good point about once the draft, then we'll kind of pay attention. I do wonder if there has been a draft deadline by both sides.

Speaker 1 Like, I do wonder if the Steelers are like, if you could give us a heads up before, you know, the draft, that'd be great because we'd obviously be looking at who our future is going to be and what we're going to do.

Speaker 1 We already got Mason Rudolph. We'd be looking at the draft.

Speaker 3 Or if there's a date before the draft where they're like, if we don't know by this point, we'd like to dive into more draft kind of, like, I just wonder what, if there is a deadline because deadlines are the things that obviously draw Decisions from people in the entirety of it all that's why I wonder what the years are because let's say instead of just a one year he does a two year and you would kind of assume almost already like hey we're gonna draft a QB like we want you to be the QB this year maybe next year but no matter what this isn't gonna be a four-year deal like they need a quarterback and maybe you know I don't know what the 2026 draft class looks like yeah so maybe they're they're already looking there as well But you would think if, you know, for instance, a Will Howard, which we haven't really brought up since the Combine, or another guy that might be in that second or third round that's available there like Quinn Ewers, that they might be thinking, hey, we're going to take this guy either way.

Speaker 3 But if it's a two-year deal, like, would that shock you? Would more than one year check it out?

Speaker 1 I think they definitely put multiple years strictly for the South Cap Jim Nashville thing, you know, and who knows how many voided years on the back? Like, who knows what the game is that Mr.

Speaker 1 Omar Khan, the Khan artist, does, the general manager and aaron rodgers representatives in this entire thing put the deal together but giants allegedly still in too and from what we've heard he hasn't traveled to new york right they haven't

Speaker 1 jamis i feel like that doesn't change it at all that's interesting to me with well ian rapport said that contract says he's a backup contract or something like that

Speaker 5 that's what he said i wonder if that's the mason rudolph thing as well right or just kind of assumes for me yeah mason got similar similar money as well but no i i don't i don't think whether aaron comes or not i don't think it should change whether they take a quarterback or not like if because i mean like we said aaron's 40 41 whatever it is uh he's not going to be there a long time if you want to take a quarterback this year where you're picking at i don't think they should probably start this year anyway so i don't think it should affect or if you want to go and you know maybe Because they got a bunch of comp picks coming after, you know, Dan Moore goes for how $50 million.

Speaker 5 Justin Fields goes for $30 million. They got comp picks coming next year.
And the draft is in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 5 So if you want to, you know, I'm going to go to a couple of of threes and go up to number one or number two and get the quarterbacks on far

Speaker 1 in your city. Could you imagine the Jensers? Uh, there has been a trade.

Speaker 1 The Pittsburgh Steelers have traded for the number one overall pick. That place would go upside down, no matter who got drafted.
No matter who this is.

Speaker 5 Yeah, whether Arch stays or not, because he's only a starter for one year. No, Nico could come out.
Drew Aller could progress again. You know, there's a lot of quarterbacks coming out next year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so maybe Mason and Aaron this year, and then what happens next year, we shall see and figure out. But

Speaker 1 I'm excited to figure out when he's going to make the decision, you know, and what is the deciding factor. Like, what is the whole...
What is the... The moment.

Speaker 1 Not only the moment, but right now, what is the...

Speaker 5 I thought it was the Vikings for a while.

Speaker 1 I think we all did. Because I think he wanted potentially a clearer picture of who.
Yes. What is all

Speaker 3 an option right now? Still kind of do. What? What's that? With the Vikings.
No.

Speaker 1 You think there's still an option?

Speaker 3 I still kind of do, yeah.

Speaker 1 A little bit. Really? Didn't tell Pellisero come out and say no? He's not?

Speaker 3 Oh, I forget what the report is.

Speaker 6 Yeah, the report was that the Vikings, they haven't said that, but they're going with J.J. McCarthy.

Speaker 1 Is what Tom Pellisero reported. Correct.

Speaker 2 And then J.J. said to Kay, they

Speaker 1 told him that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they have not told him. Yeah, they have not told him.
And I think he said he liked that as well,

Speaker 2 been a competitor, going there, earn it, which I respect.

Speaker 1 Me too. So who knows? We will certainly ask him if we get the opportunity to.
And hopefully the Pittsburgh Steelers or the New York Giants or

Speaker 3 the Minnesota Vikings. I'm just saying.
I mean, I'm reading now what's on that graphic because, you know, during this time, it's so much bullshit floating around.

Speaker 3 But I'm not seeing anything like they're definitely out on Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 But you heard from JJ that he's not been told he's the guy.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and then I see not pursuing Aaron Rodgers at this time. That kind of reeks of like, well, right now, we don't like Aaron, but tomorrow we might.
But again, you know, if Palisero said it.

Speaker 1 No, hey, listen, I appreciate appreciate the fact that you're like, hold, let's just, let's not rule out anything at this exact time, especially as, you know, continue to do research, continue to figure things out, continue to talk to each other, continue to learn about each other, which I think was a big part of that trip to Pittsburgh, which is like, let's learn about how this would potentially go because maybe he didn't do that last time, you know, with the

Speaker 1 Jets. Remember, they flew out to him.
Yeah, I don't think he did. I don't think he went over and he was like,

Speaker 5 he got the heroes welcome when he first showed up, but that was like after it was a done deal like hey you're gonna be the jets quarterback he's already said that he loves the city of pittsburgh he respects the city of pittsburgh i think he just wanted to know what the building was probably like and i assume they wanted to know what this dude was like in person as well well and you talked about it yesterday i believe you mentioned it yesterday that um steelers brass omar mike tomlin uh they did not go to michigan's pro day uh and there's a lot of guys at that point where kenneth grant or um will johnson who could who are definitely on their board.

Speaker 5 So I think it was big that they did not go to their pro day to meet with Aaron.

Speaker 1 I I wonder if anybody in Pittsburgh has told Aaron Rodgers that Kenny Wood's back. Oh.
Have you heard? Have you heard?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 have you heard? Seen some. Have you heard the news? I've heard.
Kennywood is all the way back. They were up for sale, weren't they? Guess what? They sold.
And guess who bought it? Record time.

Speaker 1 A fucking amusement park family.

Speaker 1 Okay. That's right.
So they're coming in and they're doing it. And Kennywood has so much opportunity to be the greatest amusement park on earth yet again.
And I say that because if you do recall

Speaker 1 in the past, Kenny Wood was right there at the top. Roller Coaster Enthusiast said, Kenny Wood at one, maybe one A behind Disney World.
Now, very close. What was that?

Speaker 2 What was the publication?

Speaker 1 Roller Coaster Enthusiasts.

Speaker 5 Number one Roller Coaster.

Speaker 1 Enthusiasm. Never heard of it about the coasters.
No, I don't know.

Speaker 5 Not much of a roller coaster guys. I know you have.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 How about Coaster Heads? I don't know if you've heard about that.

Speaker 1 Does Florida even have roller coasters? Oh, yeah. They got the biggest in the world.
That's Orlando.

Speaker 1 These were pretty good. I was there.

Speaker 1 I was there a couple weeks later.

Speaker 1 They didn't have the potato patch, which we certainly saw,

Speaker 1 which Kennywood does have.

Speaker 1 So maybe

Speaker 1 score one for the black and yellow here. Okay.
But basically everything else, Disney World did seemingly have more of what Kennywood had. Yeah, I didn't expect that.
For the batch, though.

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 1 I didn't go to Kennywood. I didn't go to Disney World.
Disney World.

Speaker 1 Only went to Kennywood, you know. What is that?

Speaker 1 Disney World.

Speaker 5 They're in their own category.

Speaker 1 Universe. Yeah.
Well, yeah, you're right. It's a universe.
Kenny Wood's big six flags and some other bullshit.

Speaker 3 We can gimmick this Kennywood thing

Speaker 3 for as long as we want. None of you guys have been to Kennywood in 10 plus years.

Speaker 3 And also, yeah, Kennywood might be better now because they sold.

Speaker 3 Because whatever was running, whether it's the Kenny family or the Wood family, either family that was running it, now they've given up the reins. It makes more sense it'll be decent.

Speaker 1 Just please, please, please, before we go any further, the attractions group podcast has a message about kennywood please i'm ricky spacuza kennywood's general manager i know you're all excited to see the steel curtain return and i'm excited for you to tackle this record-setting coaster in addition to what work you might have seen during the phantom fall fest and holiday lights last year

Speaker 17 we've had columns delivered this offseason hell yeah

Speaker 17 currently going up all around me These new columns will help ensure that the steel curtain is around and ready to throw riders for many years to come.

Speaker 17 Once this phase interaction on this tweet, our maintenance team is going to add the two trains back to the track and test runs will begin.

Speaker 1 Fuck it. Don't know that.

Speaker 17 You might even see work and testing of the coaster during your first visits this spring. Over the past few months, I've seen this project come to life and the wait is almost over.

Speaker 17 So get ready to go upside down nine times on Pennsylvania's nine times.

Speaker 1 Rippy Woos.

Speaker 17 Can't wait to announce an opening date soon.

Speaker 1 Stay tuned. Thank you, Mr.
Spicaza.

Speaker 3 Ricky Spicooza.

Speaker 1 You want April. They got good Paison out there running that thing.
You see that? Nine whoop-de-woos? You know. You're an open-day is?

Speaker 5 Huh? You want opening days? When is it? April 12th. So if you want to stick around a couple of days, I'll see you there, bro.

Speaker 1 Wait a minute. Maybe we can make a few phone calls, see if we can get in there a little couple days earlier.
Holy shit.

Speaker 1 You want to talk about it? We'll pay 12.

Speaker 2 Wait, you're going to test out? You guys are going to.

Speaker 1 Okay. I'll get on.

Speaker 2 You're going to test them out?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.
Have fun.

Speaker 1 I've been on show too.

Speaker 3 It's a sign the forms.

Speaker 1 What are you talking about? Wait till I get Phantom's Revenge, Steel Curtain. You name it.
I'll be

Speaker 1 Exterminator's Inside. Oh, buddy.
Come on, brother. Kenny Woods all the way back.
You heard Mr. Ricky there? Yeah.
Mr. Ricky was talking about it.

Speaker 3 Maybe Connor can go to Kitty Land and ride the teacups.

Speaker 1 Oh, and maybe the swings.

Speaker 3 I like the swings and the teacups. I'm fine with that.

Speaker 1 Well, I'll say this best swings in the country because the music selection during the swings is great.

Speaker 3 Block and yellow.

Speaker 12 Renegade, non-stop.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Over and over again.
Good vibes.

Speaker 1 Nelly. And then also you get a chance to see a steel mill you see that in the background is a reminder of all the hard work that has been done to make sure that this place is what it is.

Speaker 1 They sell it, reinvest in it. Kennywood's back.
Just know that. If you get a chance to stop by, you should definitely go and support it.
And go to the

Speaker 1 potato patch.

Speaker 1 Get some fries and cheese. Okay.
And then walk out of there and say, this is the best fucking fries I've ever had in my life. There you go.
And that's all you need. Maybe Noah's Ark stopped by.

Speaker 2 I'm glad they're still bringing it. Because I was sure that family bought it.
I'm just going to tear that shit.

Speaker 1 What? They're not fucking bringing it.

Speaker 2 What?

Speaker 2 I mean, I thought they're still bringing it.

Speaker 1 They're not still there. Speaking of carts, there are bumper carts there, and you can go get after it.
And they all go very fast. They're on the up and up.

Speaker 1 I don't like the swing one, but they got one of the swing ones. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 If I do remember correctly,

Speaker 6 the same family who owns Adventureland in Des Moines, Iowa, which might be the best amusement park in the country. I believe they did buy Kennywood, so it makes sense.

Speaker 1 Custer Heads never ranked in it.

Speaker 6 It's back on the up and up. That's good to know.

Speaker 1 What's your place called in Des Des Moines? Adventureland. That's a fake name.
It's not. That doesn't sound real.
It's not.

Speaker 6 Kennywood's a fake name.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's not even. That's Kenny's Woods.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's not even the fucking thing.

Speaker 1 My family doesn't even know it anymore. Well, certainly Kennywood has grown and dude, not just a family thing.

Speaker 5 Wasn't the movie Adventureland filmed where? Kennywood.

Speaker 1 Oh, that was filmed.

Speaker 3 Because Adventureland was about a scary zombie apocalypse, and that is exactly what they filmed it in that.

Speaker 1 Dump. Okay.
I'm not going to go that far. Boom.

Speaker 7 Michael Sarah wouldn't do that.

Speaker 1 He wasn't.

Speaker 1 That was disgusting. Kennywood is not a dump.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is. And Adventureland.
Jesse Eisenberg. Same guy.

Speaker 1 No, that's fucking. That's Mark Duncan.
Mark Douglas, brother. Yeah, that's a big deal.
Yeah, I'm Cole. Anyways, I can't wait to take us to Kennywood's.

Speaker 2 How many rads did he show?

Speaker 1 All of them. Yeah, there's only two.
Oh, okay. No, there's two headliners, brother.
Come on.

Speaker 2 I just don't remember showing that.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I can't wait to see Kenny Woods.

Speaker 1 No, because the steel curtain was.

Speaker 6 The detail on the steel curtain is pretty sweet.

Speaker 1 The football laces on the. See that? That's neat.
I do like that.

Speaker 3 I do like that.

Speaker 6 I'm guessing that was Spacoozer.

Speaker 2 Has that shit?

Speaker 1 Can we run that video once again, please? Start from the beginning where he says his name. They don't even put a graphic up his name.
That worries me. But that's the talking group.
Spacozo. Talking.

Speaker 1 What's the name of the podcast?

Speaker 1 Talking coaster. Talking coasters.
Talking coasters.

Speaker 3 You're not even that locked in.

Speaker 1 Group coasters.

Speaker 1 We're getting word here that...

Speaker 5 Exterminator's final run is 2025, and then they're going to knock it down and build a bigger one.

Speaker 1 Oh, hell yeah. I like that move.
I like that move.

Speaker 3 His coasters are going to be great in 10 years, huh?

Speaker 1 No, overnight. He's Pittsburgh.
What do you think this is, bud? Oh, we need some steel to build it. Okay, Okay, we'll fucking go down by the river.
We'll see.

Speaker 12 Also, whatever bullshit Ty was trying to sell, the other company already owned that park.

Speaker 14 They sold it to.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because they hated your place.

Speaker 3 Nah, it's way better than Kenny Wood.

Speaker 1 You guys would know if you've seen it, if you've been there. Do we have this guy's podcast again? He's looking.
Oh, we lost it. It's gone.

Speaker 1 I think we're never going to see that.

Speaker 1 That thing's gone.

Speaker 1 That pisses me off. I will say.
I'll open my phone. And my natural reaction is just to hit an update and I'll see a tweet.
And I'm like, ooh, and it's gone forever. And I'm never going to find it.

Speaker 3 Same on IG. Yeah.
I'll be like watching a video and maybe I'll like scroll out of it by accident and I'll try and find it again. It's gone.

Speaker 1 Gone forever.

Speaker 1 You got no shot. It's gone.
I am happy that Instagram seemingly has stopped putting things at the top of the page that drop you into live things. Yes.
Do you remember when they were doing that? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Whenever a live would pop up and it was the entire top of the screen where you would be resetting it. And then all of a sudden there's one fucking live viewer in this.
And who is it? Me.

Speaker 1 And by the way, the person that's streaming knows that you're here. Oh, hey.
stick around, give me the fuck out. I'm so, so good to see you.
All right,

Speaker 1 they there was like four or five of those. I'm like, hey, Zuck, can we fucking knock it off?

Speaker 1 I get we want people to go in there, but like, that is a very pivotal part of the screen here, you know, and you're dropping me into this whole thing.

Speaker 1 Feels like social media is really figuring it all out, isn't it? Oh, yeah, yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 Group text was tough.

Speaker 1 I mute Mosley.

Speaker 1 I think they were hoping one guy did. Yeah,

Speaker 1 no,

Speaker 1 He was in there.

Speaker 1 You do got to watch, you know, with people getting new phone numbers, sending the old phone numbers. That scares me.

Speaker 1 Like, I have to check, is this like new,

Speaker 1 insert name new, or is it insert name newest? Yeah. Or insert name new, new, newest.
You know, always have to check that. Accidentally putting somebody into a group text,

Speaker 1 not good. The worst.
Not good. Because now everybody's got their number

Speaker 1 exposed.

Speaker 1 If you're going to send war plans, I don't know if that's the way to do it.

Speaker 3 No chance. Jeez.
Got to be an email.

Speaker 1 At least put it in a Dropbox. Yeah.
Or make one big long video that's impossible to text.

Speaker 3 Bingo.

Speaker 1 Or have a password. Why is that happening? I have no idea.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's terrible.

Speaker 14 It's gotten so much worse. Back in the day, I could send you three, four, five, six-minute video, no problem.
Now you can't even do two-minute video.

Speaker 1 Can't do it. They want people to airdrop.

Speaker 3 They're pushing airdrop.

Speaker 1 I know, but airdrop's not always possible. Yeah.
It's not always feasible. I know.

Speaker 14 It's iCloud link. That's what they're pushing.

Speaker 1 They're pushing iCloud link and then people's iClouds get full so you can't send that video then what guess what you got to do buy $3.99 for more iCloud got to buy more yeah I looked at the number of photos and videos that I have the other day on the flight because I like put I started putting things into albums sure sure like that yeah it was a cool thing making playlists yeah it's a cool thing I'm putting photos into albums you know so I uh I feel like they're forcing us to do that with the way did it all just sit there.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 The number of photos and images that I have on there is absurd.

Speaker 1 It is a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, I assume you pay a lot for iCloud.

Speaker 1 Now I'm kind of curious. It's a huge number.
I don't even know if like I want to say it with how big it is. Oh, wow.
Yeah. Huge number.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 20, 27,300 items.

Speaker 1 You're at 27,000? Yeah. Okay.
That's pretty good numbers. That's pretty good numbers.

Speaker 3 You got 100,000 in there?

Speaker 1 97,000. Yeah, there you go.
I'm like, what? And then voice memos. Do you remember when I would send you an open,

Speaker 1 a voice memo open every single day for the podcast or for the show.

Speaker 1 Oh, those are in there?

Speaker 1 I was scrolling through my voice memos, you know, because there's like, I have like, uh, you know, like some things, um,

Speaker 1 like some comedy story concepts that I thought of that I put in my voice memo just over the years that I've created, uh, thought of and had and curated or whatever.

Speaker 1 So I'm scrolling back through my voice memos, and obviously none of them have a name, they just have numbers. And I'm like, well, this one's two and a half minutes long.
Let's see what this is.

Speaker 1 And it's, hello, beautiful people. It's like, golly.
And then I go to the next one, same exact, same, exact, same, exact. exactly.

Speaker 1 I'm like, how many of these fucking things, and I go through the day, it was like 100 and something straight of me just sending these voice phones that are still just sitting on my phone.

Speaker 1 They have to be eating up something somewhere. I have no idea they exist.
Definitely space. And then all the, I mean, missed text messages, 38 of them, never going to be able to find them.

Speaker 1 Where are they? No, Jesus. How come I can't just get rid of those, Tim? They're in the cloud.

Speaker 3 Yeah, they're in the clouds. That's why I've reset my iCloud.
I switched my iClouds in 2020, I believe.

Speaker 1 How good of a play is that?

Speaker 3 It was great. But I mean, it's already, you already built it back up.
But if you haven't ever, if you've never done that, then yeah.

Speaker 1 My techs are only for one year, though.

Speaker 2 Where are your pre-2020 on my

Speaker 3 old laptop as a backup?

Speaker 14 Okay, I was going to say, if you're going to do that, back it all up because it will erase everything. Yeah.

Speaker 3 But so, like, I had a.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but what do you need pre-2020?

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. You need all the numbers.
Memories? Yeah, memories, man.

Speaker 1 Family.

Speaker 5 I didn't have memories back then.

Speaker 3 But like all the numbers that you have, you know, like think about all the numbers you just accrue over time that you just don't use anymore.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so I have have like the one year for the texts.

Speaker 1 I scrolled all the way back to the beginning. I don't know where these 38 are.
I literally went all the way.

Speaker 1 This is how much time I've had on planes, obviously, whenever you're doing this, because I'm sick of looking at this number. I'm like, where the fuck is it? I don't know where they are.

Speaker 2 You got to start deleting.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 6 No, there should be an update where it's just like mark all as red.

Speaker 1 Bingo. Yeah.
Like you can do with emails. Yeah.
And on emails, at least you can hit that lower left button. It's show unread.
Right.

Speaker 1 And then like, even if you can't find it, they'll pop up some bullshit that's second email down that you definitely saw, but they marked it as unread, and then you can easily get rid of it.

Speaker 1 It's like this text one, I don't know how you beat the game. I don't know how you beat it.
It used to be bigger. And then I responded to a bunch of people like six months later.

Speaker 1 I'm like, hey, sorry, I missed this. I'm so sorry.
Like a birthday response because I'm trying to get rid of the number and I don't want to be an asshole. And then now there's just 38 cents.

Speaker 11 I don't know if it's a new update, but you can definitely click read all.

Speaker 1 I just, I just did it. Where?

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 11 in the upper left, right next to the text button, there's those three dots.

Speaker 1 No, I don't have those. Yeah, it's update then.

Speaker 3 Upper left.

Speaker 1 So I can just get rid of all the dots. Sorry, upper right, upper right, upper right.
That's my fault. Yeah, upper left is edit still, right?

Speaker 5 There it is. Yeah, he's right.

Speaker 1 So it's the new update? Select.

Speaker 6 No, I don't have the new one.

Speaker 11 Your three dots, you hit select messages.

Speaker 1 I don't have it. I don't fucking have it.
Of course I don't. This fucking thing.
I'm so sick of it.

Speaker 12 It is under edit. It's under edit, too.
If you click on

Speaker 1 select all the other. I can filter by all.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Read all.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 So if you click edit, select messages.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Okay.
Zero. Zero.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 1 Thank you in the back. Great work.
Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 1 Apple G. Oh, if you're watching and I haven't responded to the text message, I'm so sorry.
It's never coming. Never coming.

Speaker 3 It's never coming. Got it done.
Did it.

Speaker 1 Oh, my gosh. What a day.
I used to have to like do math. Like, okay, 37 is a new text now today.
That sucks. 38 means one new text.
And then I have like 47 sitting there. I'm like,

Speaker 1 am I opening up to nine new text messages here? Or is this potentially a new number? We just beat the game. Thank you, Tim.
Hey, Tim. Thank you.

Speaker 1 You knew you'd be thinking of that, Tim Apple.

Speaker 1 Thank you for doing that.

Speaker 1 Would have been cool. I make that shot with Dickie V.
Definitely. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Instead, I missed it. He was on top of it.
He was.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Stop looking at the ball.

Speaker 1 Coach.

Speaker 3 Classic coach.

Speaker 1 How long?

Speaker 1 So many follow-up questions. How long do you think they're doing, like, the reps thing on his fore records? Ooh, yeah, is that forever?

Speaker 1 Like, did we just, did we just take up like four days worth of time?

Speaker 6 No, because he just did the ACC tournament for basketball.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I mean, like, I would assume after that, maybe, he probably has to go an extended period without really talking.

Speaker 6 But he was, you know, like he was doing the games like he had always done them, you know, being very demonstrative and like yelling, being excited and everything.

Speaker 1 It's not like it really changed how he called the game yeah like last week i bet is when he wasn't doing rested up yeah it is nice to to go for a while without talking you know as professional talkers it is nice to just kind of but then every time uh i wonder is it still there you know that's a uh that's a wild weird place to be you know when you have no idea if anything's going to come out like i wonder if that entire convo he was wondering if it was going to drop out like he said he was during the games scary yeah especially because if you like you know

Speaker 2 any of that that's not good sounds. And it's no, you know, it's no monotone with him.
It's smell. It's juice.

Speaker 1 All the time. All the time.

Speaker 1 We appreciate you, Dickie Vick.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Coach Calapari, Derek Queen, and shout out to all you for allowing us to do this for a living. We will,

Speaker 1 yeah, well, I think LeBron James is going to be on the show tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Pretty cool. Yeah, I'd say.
Hell yeah.

Speaker 1 LeBron James. LeBron James.
He's going to be on the program. That's crazy to think about.
Insane.

Speaker 1 Let's have a little fun with the king. Amen.

Speaker 1 Let's learn about LeBron James.

Speaker 1 Let's peel back the onion a little bit and not do an interview, but have a conversation with him. Like that.

Speaker 1 Okay?

Speaker 1 Every podcast host ever. I don't want to do interviews.
I want to do conversations. I want to learn about you as a person, not as your profession.
Good mindset. Good goal.

Speaker 1 Hopefully we are able to do that with LeBron. And I can't wait to learn about this guy.
How is he in such good shape at this age?

Speaker 1 How has he been able to kind of navigate the waters of being one of the most famous people on earth since he's like a teenager?

Speaker 1 How has he been able to navigate coming from nothing, having everything at a very young age? Remember that Hummer was a massive story whenever he got it in high school, obviously.

Speaker 1 Signs a massive deal. I think he was supposed to go with one company.
His mom tells him to go listen to another company. And Nike ends up signing them.

Speaker 1 He's rich since he's, you know, it's like put all of his friends on, you know, and family. I can't wait to chat with him.

Speaker 1 All all right we'll be back tomorrow be a friend tell a friend something nice that might change their life we're in a sing together team on me team on three one two three team get away

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