PMS 2.0 1306 - The Start of a New NFL League Year, Dan Orlovsky, Tyrese Haliburton, Shaquille O'Neal, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this happy birthday, NFL Wednesday, March 12, 2025. This program starts now.
Football! He's celebrating a massive day. The new league year and the official free agency signing period begin at 4 o'clock today.
Congrats to the NFL. Yeah.
Another trip to have a son. And, you know, this marks the the beginning of a new league year everybody at the bottom of the mountain trying to chase the Philadelphia Eagles who grind and pounded their way behind a great offensive line in Saquon Barkley all the way to the top of Lombardi Mountain they are our current world champions in today every organization you would hope would be leaving no stone unturned on the pursuit to becoming world champs at the end of this particular season.
Now, we all thought maybe, you know, the NFL would not be able to survive another year. Yeah, maybe last year was their last season.
Turns out, they're back, and seller cap's bigger than it's ever been. Contracts are larger than they've ever been.
More ratings and eyes on the game than there's ever been. More ways to enjoy the game than there's ever been.
And it's a wonderful time for the NFL, so congrats to them, and happy birthday. Happy birthday to the NFL.
That's not your NFL vet, Darius J. Butler.
He has an F1 hoodie on. That season's starting this weekend.
Sure is. I don't know how that survived.
I thought that was going to be one of the ones that didn't have another season, but this is going to be the year where we're going to pay attention to this. Yep.
We're going to dive in. We're going to pay our respects to racing that happens in Europe.
Have fun. It doesn't mean it's the pinnacle.
Happens everywhere. Well, yeah, I heard they've been infiltrating our shit.
Yeah, down here in Miami. We got lost on the track trying to get into the building, obviously.
Yeah, we did. In a sprinter van.
It was a great time, wasn't it? It was. I kissed the pavement, do the whole thing, so I can taste some of the rubber.
F1 starts this weekend? Yes, in Melbourne. Okay, well, good luck to all the F1 drivers.
Maybe a little bit faster, exciting racing this year. We got a different favorite, different betting favorite to win it all this year.
Vandersoppen, if he's racing, we know he's going to win this thing. That's what we would think.
I mean, I would take the money plus money on him, but Lando Norris, McLaren. Oh, Lando Norris.
His favorite, yep. Oh, Lando.
We know Lando pretty good. He won a couple races that he wasn't supposed to win, remember? He did.
Because I think Vanderstoppen was in the lead, and then Lando says, I want to go, and he said, I'm not doing it, and they did a little joke. Right? Is that Lando? Lando was the guy who could have won the race, but ended up letting his teammate, Oscar Piastri, win it.
Okay, so that's how I know. Yeah, he won in Miami.
And that's when we learned that you guys aren't actually racing. Not trying to win.
Yeah, no, you're not trying to win, because the person that was winning the race was told. Yeah, but I thought we're trying to.
Nonetheless, this is the year, F1. This is the year.
Have fun, boy. Good luck down here in Australia.
Down under, you know, as they say.

The NFL, though, obviously cooking.

They're dropping, as Foxy put up there, they're dropping a football over in Times Square.

So cool.

Beautiful.

You know, crowds already gathered to watch football drop.

Now, I was just in New York City on Monday.

It's alive.

Really?

I think it might have been the first day where it was very good weather.

You know, we've gotten, like, a couple different fake springs, little pump fakes. It was perfect.
The weather was awesome. It was an active city.
I mean, there was people. Every crosswalk, it was damn impossible to kind of turn to go a different direction because of how many people were out and about running, biking, living.
You know, it was beautiful to see, actually. It was really fun to be a part.
Sucked to drive anywhere. You know, it wasn't necessarily a good thing for the time it took to get to said madison square garden but i assume this is going to be very active uh i assume this is going to be a good shot and shout to the nfl i'm sure some middle manager came up with this idea and they said that is the only way to launch the 2025 nfl season that's big brain stuff that's big brain stuff everybody will do at Times Square, obviously.
The toxic tables here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. Ty.
Good to see you, Ty. You've missed a lot here with the free agency tampering period.
We are very happy that you are back. How do you feel about where the Packers stand? We haven't got any takes at all from the Green Bay contingency on this particular free agency over the last 48 hours.
First and foremost it's great to be back uh you know it sucked missing the last couple days especially with all this stuff going on because when you're not in it it's so hard to keep i mean like the the amount of deals that are happening like it really is head spinning when you're not in here and being able to okay okay okay um i'm okay with what the packers have done so far i My whole thing was I just want them to get a couple vets because I'm tired of the, hey, this is the youngest team in the NFL. They kind of proved last year, especially down the stretch, they need some guys who have kind of been there and done that before to maybe shore up the locker room a little bit.
So, I mean, they've got a guard. Anytime you're going to add offensive linemen, especially as we've seen in recent years, like with how much they ran the football last year, I kind of like that.
You know, I can't say I've ever really heard of the guy before, to be honest, but he started for the 40th. We did a lot of that the last couple of years.
Exactly, exactly. More and more of that this year.
And then, you know, they do get a cornerback from the Raiders who they're going to end up losing both their cornerbacks. So it's kind of one of those things where I've known in years past, the Packers, it doesn't matter how much cap space they have or how little cap space they have, they're not going to be super active like a lot of teams are.
So I was saying, hey, I want them to go get DK Metcalf. I want them to check in on Trey Hendrickson.
They're never going to do that. The chances, that's just stupid and wishful thinking.
We'll see. There's still a couple vets out there that are available.
They need to get a receiver, though. They really, really need to get and they missed on a true number one, I guess, but they need some help there.
You see what everyone else in the division's doing. That's kind of why it's like, hey, let's go.
Let's make some moves here. A lot of action in the NFC North north uh obviously it was one of the best divisions in all the ball last year that's only going to continue we would assume even though the vikings uh jj mccarthy is their starter currently who knows what the future holds for them since you've been gone for the first time And tell me to go Yeah, yeah! You know this song? Hell yeah.
Who's by? Okay. All demos.
I couldn't tell you who was by either. I don't know who.
Kelly Clarkson. Of course.
Oh, that's Kelly? Yeah, that's her first. Hey.
She can sing. Kelly Clarkson can.
She can sing the shit out of it. Got the pipes.
She has her own show, and whenever we're off, my wife watches it, so I see it, and it's like she just does karaoke for like 15 minutes of the show, and it's just her murdering everybody else's song. Like, just singing it better.
I'm like, you should just do this every fucking... This should be an hour.
she does interviews great interviews obviously she does jokes yeah great jokes does good q a but the karaoke it's like hey kelly nobody on earth can do uh what you and she knows it i think oh he is a weapon anyway since you've been gone uh you know this guy doesn't watch hockey anymore yeah i mean a pretty insane hockey talk yesterday. It all revolved around basically Connor has quit on the Boston Bruins.
Not quit on them. He's quit on Sweeney, who's the general manager of the Boston Bruins because they traded Marshawn to the Florida Panthers.
Florida Panthers, obviously, the biggest rival in recent memory of the Boston Bruins, especially as the reigning Stanley Cup champions. And they met for the first time.
I don't know if you know this. Last night, Marshawn back on the Boston ice with the Florida Panthers.
Florida Panthers, reigning Stanley Cup champs. Guess who won a game last night? Who? Boston Bruins.
Guess who didn't watch? Who? This guy. He could have had a great night last night.
And with a fight, too. You guys won at the end.
It could have been a great night for you. You are choosing to not cheer for the Bruins strictly because one guy is seemingly trying to tear it all down, but you've got to continue to support.
Don't you feel that way? Yeah, still supporting the players. You know, Swayman, McAvoy, Posh.
Oh my God, Swayman, that one. Swayman, that one.
They went to a review. They went to a review actually to see if it was in because it ended up cross.
This was like with a minute 20 left in the game, down one.

It was a great ending.

I mean, it was electrifying.

And I texted you immediately.

Like, oh, no, Swayman, just let a squeaker through, bro.

And it did look bad.

Then the rainy audio whistle blew.

Great win by the Boston Bruins.

Yeah, huge.

It's awesome.

Now that I'm not watching, they probably will go on and win the Stanley Cup.

But I still had a fantastic night, you know,

catching up on the Boston Celtics documentary, going back to the, to the 60s and 70s in Boston was real fun. Definitely nothing terrible going on then.
But no, no, it was good to see that the Bruins are winning. You know, it's great that the boys are rallying around Socko, the best coach in the NHL, kind of my assumption was that Soacco was going to have the boys going once again, and of course they still are, but no, huge one for the Celtics.
I'm glad that the Bruins are playing well, but the Celtics once again are competing for that NBA championship, playing the OKC Thunder tonight, going up against the one seed at home. We're the favorites, of course, because as Rich Paul said, to be the man, you've got to beat the the man and that's who the Boston Celtics are.
Rick Flair said that. I think Rich Paul was quoting something along to knock off the Kings to become the Kings.
Who the Boston Celtics are. Potatoes.
Potato, potato. That's fine.
There you go. We can do all that.
We can nickel and dime this conversation but the Celtics are still the champs. That's kind of the bottom line here.
I don't know if Rich Paul said that as well. But no, I'm looking forward to that.
But no, hockey season's been fun. It was a real good ride.
Ever since we set the record for most wins, most points in an NHL season, it's been incredible. But now, unfortunately for a lot of Boston Bruins fans, their sights have been kind of altered.
We like missoula a lot don't we yeah exactly we love joe jason they've already won a title ladies and gentlemen this team is very young you know this is kind of like the 2011 bruins that's what we're seeing with the boston celtics right now they are incredible at the basketball so maybe we do you know let's just let's just move over a little well the celt, the Celtics are in trouble. I want to let you know.
Shot of the year is now calling Indiana home. What? Yeah, Tyrese Halliburton last night said, this is Tyrese Halliburton ballgame.
Getting Tyrese Hallibuckets. Drifting sideways while fouled on an inbound where they ran a tunnel screen, basically.
Down three against the Milwaukee Bucks. Gets fouled.
Four-point play to walk off a dub against the Bucks. Now, I guess it wasn't a walk-off technically because Giannis had a chance to answer.
He would run down the court and airball it. But whenever Tyrese Halliburton buried the and one four-point play, Pacers took a lead with three seconds left.
This was electrifying live. I believe we will be talking to Tyrese Halliburton in about 50 minutes or so to kind of get his headspace on the biggest shot he's hit.
You know. Yeah.
I'm sure there was some playoff. Yeah, there was some playoff.
That was so nasty. Last night? Oh, my God.
Dude, what a play. First of all, play design, phenomenal.
But running full speed and then shooting that back to your right as you're running full speed like that's that's an insane over yannis you know who knows what his wingspan is over yannis and obviously dame's on the bench so right in front of dame that's just all time shit didn't follow it up with making a free throw after he tried to ice you that's big time ball yeah they wanted to review if it was a foul or not, I think, or if he was in bounds. I think there was like, it felt like

it was a 10-minute review. Yeah.
And he

said Tyree's sitting over there knowing he's about to shoot a

free throw to win the game. Now, granted,

potentially goes to overtime because it is

tied at the time. They're not down.
But he

knocks it down pure. I mean, there wasn't even a doubt

on the free throw. And we

needed it. Obviously, Bucks and Pacers

in the playoff conversation. And Tyree

Salaburton, perfect face of a franchise, this guy. Especially for the Indiana Pacers.
Last night, he was wearing the DX Pumas that he had specially made. He actually shouted out Mr.
H numerous times in the postgame presser. Said that if he would have gave the socket, it would have been a $25,000 fine by the NBA.
Worth uh he said it was he wasn't going to take the fine we will ask him or 25k get a game especially after that we we can figure out 25 000 bucks somewhere can we i think he's just trying to respect the game trying to respect the boys and also let everybody know that he is a wrestling fan always has been always will be had a double double last night obviously not his biggest night of the year but he had a double double in the dx shoes and hits a game winner and has a four-point play uh that's a pretty good way to launch the dx pumas uh so congratulations to tyrese halliburton and the rest of the east i'm sorry about it y'all can suck it the basers are getting hot at the right time and uh we'll talkrese at 105 Eastern time. That'll be about 50 minutes from now.
Text him last night. You know, superstar.
You know, this guy. Now, we have Shaquille O'Neal joining us at 2.30 Eastern.
He was on the air immediately after this game. Listening to them talk about everything happening, certainly fascinating.
Lefkoe out there doing his thing. He looks so cool.
Lefkoe looks so cool. When they came studio after this game lefkoe was actually clapping for the game he's like that was a good game like that was good it was is basketball back is basketball bringing it feels like if they're gonna have magical moments like this happen on random tuesdays why not we'll talk to tyrese can't wait for that one half of the hammer cowboys uh ball cap tone here.
Tone, Pittsburgh Steelers, obviously beautiful St. Patrick's Day Irish hat.
You got it right there. Topical.
Feels good. Bingo.
Pittsburgh Steelers fans are awaiting a quarterback decision. Yep.
What is kind of the state of Pittsburgh right now? Because let me tell you what happened. There was a video that somebody retweeted of Aaron Rodgers talking about Pittsburgh.
You know, you know because big mike mccarthy's from pittsburgh he's got a lot of friends from pittsburgh this is from years ago on our particular program somebody retweeted it so it came up in my you know algo yet again and i'm like oh yeah this is this this needs being a zeitgeist right this is something because of how much he is certainly being associated with pittsburgh and playing for the steelers not just them i think the giants are in the conversation and a lot of people are saying is he going to go to the vikings even though the vikings have not come out and there has not been rumors that the vikings and erin talking we know nothing i retweeted that video though i guess i should have i guess i should have known that this was potentially going to happen all of pittsburgh basically was like oh i know and he's going to pittsburgh seemed like there's people very excited it. Then there was people that are indifferent about it.
And it feels like, is there going to be any decision in quarterback that the entire city is going to be rallied around? And what are your thoughts on Aaron potentially being your quarterback? And once again, I just retweeted that so people know, like the guy loves to sit, like if he was to go to Pittsburgh, loves the city, thought it should be in the world that we're in right now, especially with how much his name is thrown to pittsburgh i did not that's not me saying i know i don't i don't i don't not know anything i wonder if he does you know and uh you know you can text him and call him sure oh but what if he doesn't answer typically bingo like for five days or which maybe has been before we go live cold face time come on come on come on come on come on come come on on come give us something no answer then you get a text back like hey everything's going good or whatever it's like all right you know we just want to get a little bit of a lean at least on what this could be so i know nothing but i thought that video could be good for the current uh conversation because he does have massive respect for the city for tomlin for everything in the people over there how do you feel and what do you think do you think Pittsburgh's thoughts are on what the quarterback situation is right now? So to your question, is there a quarterback out there where the fan base is going to be happy? No, that person does not exist at this moment. You put out a couple of polls yesterday on Instagram and Twitter on who people thought the quarterback would be.
And a lot of people think it's going to be Aaron Rodgers right now, whether it's Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson. You know, apparently there's some rumors out there.

It could be Mason Rudolph.

Whoa.

What?

That's probably, that's a situation we're hoping doesn't happen.

But, you know, love Mason.

I don't think Rudolph's coming in to be a starter.

But maybe he'll compete, you know?

A lot of competition.

What about the draft?

I mean, we're sitting at 20.

I don't know if that person exists either.

I personally, and I said this yesterday,

I think I'm in the minority of Steelers fans.

Just because of Aaron's age and everything that potentially comes with Aaron,

I'm not a believer in that.

I do think Aaron is the best possibility,

the best chance to win next year for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Now, there's a contingent of people.

Who voted Russ?

Who's that? Who's that? Zito's computer? Zito voted Russ. That's what I'm realizing right there.
Okay. He's pulling for Russell Wilson.
He's like, chaos, baby. Yeah, he's pulling for Russell Wilson because that means Rogers would be in the NFC North, maybe, or the NFC East.
That's what Zito's pulling for, I guess, if that's the case. Go ahead, bud.
But everyone's waiting on Aaron. 51,000 votes is a lot of votes.
13 hours. Everyone's waiting on Aaron's answer.
Who knows when that'll come? And there's things that are definitely working against Aaron in Pittsburgh. One being the national media.
You know, the rumors out there that he's looking for a two-year, $90 million deal, which we believe to be false. You know, Schrags, and I think Schrags just meant this like in a glancing thing.
He was like, who knows when we're going to get an answer from Aaron. It could be one week.
It could be two weeks. It could be three weeks.
It could be four weeks. Then obviously everyone in Pittsburgh got mad of the idea of Aaron stretching people along for four weeks, which we have no idea if that's true or not.
I looked into it today. That is the Aaron Rodgers thing, though.
Shrager says, we don't know when this answer is. Fact.
Factual statement. Factual statement.
We don't know when it's going to be. Could be one.
Could be three. Could be, you know.
And then people in Pittsburgh, isn't this guy so fucking special? And it's like, did Aaron say it? Did Aaron talk to Schrager? This is just Schrager. So Pittsburgh media right now is basically thinking he's looking for $45 million a year and it might take a month to get an answer, which, you know, we have no idea if that's And with everything else you potentially have heard about Aaron, you know, that probably similar vein stuff, it's like, yeah, this prima donna piece of, like, people in Pittsburgh can feel that way pretty quick.
Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, granted, wins games.
Bingo. Yeah, no one cares.
No one cares. I got good news.
The city of Pittsburgh is a place where if you win some football games, brother, come on in, man. I got some good news.
I looked into it. We are in day 11 of this current moon cycle.
We're in the Waxing Gibbius. We have a full moon on Friday the 14th.
So I think if Aaron's moon rocks are fully charged on Friday. See, that sounds a little condescending.
He can get some answers. We can potentially get some answers.
I think he might make a decision Saturday, Sunday, after he talks to the moon gods and stuff like that. Okay.
Come on, Ryan. I know there's people in Pittsburgh, some close to me, who said they won't watch a game if Aaron Rodgers is the quarterback.
Sure. How close to you? Super close.
How close? I came from his nutsack. Your papa? What's that all about? Why is coach not close? He listens to too much local sports.
Okay, so there's a lot of people that are hearing, huh? Yeah, that's what happened. I would like to let Coach Diggs know that if Aaron Rodgers ends up being a quarterback for the series, which once again, we do not know, there is a beautiful pair of front row tickets on the 50 right behind the Pittsburgh Steelers to game one that we would like to offer you.
We'll see if he's not watching. You know, Coach Diggs will go, come on.
Yeah, can you imagine Coach Diggs after Rodgers throws four touchdowns for the Steelers? This guy's pretty good. I always need the bike shorts.
Yes, I stand on the fact that Aaron is the best thrower of the football available right now. I think that's pretty obvious.
And when you go and get the weapons that you have, I know Artie and the Steelers want to run the football, but you need to also throw the ball. We saw that a ton last year.
I think Aaron's the best option, and that's why I'm still hoping. Okay, we shall see when his answer comes.
Maybe it's next year. You never know.
That's just happening. I mean, people getting pissed at Aaron Rodgers because Schrager's opining about something that could happen.
I just got a stat from Hembo. Number one in the NFL in completion percentage targeting vertical routes in 2024 was who? Russell Wilson.
56%. Well, that's Russell.
Maybe Russ is the answer. Joining us now is a man who I'm sure has an opinion or two about all of this.
He is the face of quarterback coverage on ESPN. He calls games.
And, ladies and gentlemen, he's an absolute icon in the sports media world. Horrendous dude of Dude Perfect, Dan Rolowski.
Dan. Few will hunt.
Hell yeah. hell yeah hell yeah american made another subtweet yeah what are you doing who's this who's this message to right here use this message they want they wouldn't offer you a hunting show or something oh no some dude uh i get got a gift uh for a t-shirt from one of our family friends this this This family friend that we have got me a t-shirt from this company, and it aligns pretty much with some of the things or a lot of the things that I believe in.
So I went and got some more stuff. I think they're from Philly, the company.
Everybody wants to be aligned until it comes time to do what lines do. That's right.
I got that, too, restoring the dignity of hard work. Oh, hell yeah.
I like that a that a lot hard work is uh yeah a work ethic i think is the most important thing you know which is why i feel the way it's a differentiator about yeah what's going on maybe in this city you know at the uh in the football team but hey i got optimism i got optimism let's stick with the pittsburgh steelers um aaron rogers i think i saw you on tv say aaron would be perfect for the pittsburgh steelers then you immediately said i am keeping him the hell away from the minnesota vikings because he brings too much what does that mean and when you look at the pittsburgh steelers situation why is aaron rogers the guy that you think should be the quarterback? Well, ever since they traded for DK Metcalf,

it became very clear that their offense just presents a problem.

Immediately when they get out of the snap as a defense,

you're going, all right, what are we doing?

Are we going to try to play coverage?

Because then that'll help.

I mean, the Steelers have the worst run game in the NFL

over the last six years.

Statistically, it's the worst yards per carry run offense in the NFL over the the last six years so one of the ways that you help it outside of playing better offensive line wise is just have less people down near the football automatically that is going to be a question defenses have to ask themselves with dk and george now i've said from the jump this has to have george as part of the equation and i don't't know if it has become publicly official that yes, he is staying because there has been some understandably question marks attached to like, does this mean the end for George Pickens? So he's got to be a part of that, but I just look at it and go, alright, as a defense, you've got to ask yourself, are you going to play coverage or are you going to try to stop a run game that hopefully gets a little bit better? And I think that that presents really well for Aaron Rodgers. I don't think it's the perfect.
For me, it would have been Sam Darnold, but he's clearly, clearly, clearly the best option. And I think it's clearly the best option for Aaron Rodgers.
That's why I get a little bit unknown about what's taking so long to make the decision. The reason why I would not do it in Minnesota would be a massive mistake was you've already made the decision, Minnesota.
JJ's the guy. Once you let Sam walk, you've made it clear that JJ's the guy.
Aaron's not going there to be a backup. Aaron's going there to try to go win the division and go to the Super Bowl.
So this isn't open competition. This isn't hopefully you can play till JJ McCarthy's fully ready or healthy.
This is we're trying to win the Super Bowl was one of the greatest ever. So and I would not do that to that young player.
Well, OK, so you wouldn't want another year of JJ McCarthy in the building healthy watching a veteran quarterback for one

year? I mean, depending upon how long Aaron's played. We know nothing from Aaron's side.
We

know nothing from Aaron's side. You don't think that that would be an okay move for J.J.
McCarthy

as a whole long term with his career is what you're saying? I think that you got to be very

careful with saying one year with a veteran quarterback. Aaron's not a veteran quarterback.

Aaron's one of the greatest ever. Aaron, whether people disagree or agree or

Thank you. careful with saying one year with a veteran quarterback aaron's not a veteran quarterback aaron's one of the greatest ever aaron comes whether whether people like disagree or agree there is a lot that comes with aaron just because of what he's accomplished and the personality that he has people love him people hate him and so you are you really sure minnesota it's not just bringing a veteran quarterback in to maybe be the guy for one more year.
You're bringing in Aaron Rodgers. That's different.
And so when I think you allow Sam Darnold to walk out of the building, you're making the decision as an organization. All right.
The young kid is the play. This was the plan when we drafted him.
It was trending that way in preseason. This is the play now.
We are deciding that J.J. McCarthy is going to be the guy, and we want to now have someone there to support him rather than threaten him.
You want somebody in Minnesota that is going to challenge J.J. as a professional, not kind of threaten his job and leadership role within the team.
Got it. Who do you think that would would be just like uh somebody two three years in that's a backup quarterback type conversation like kenny pickett for instance going up there to uh cleveland like a kenny pickett type quarterback is that what you're saying somebody that isn't you know as well um i don't know known or respected by his peers no offense kenny jesus christ you're a super bowl champion i champion.
I hope Kenny understands what I'm saying. Somebody that isn't like a...
Kenny Pickett's the opening day starter for the Braves. Okay, well, good luck to Kenny Pickett, too.
He came in there and started spinning against the Philadelphia Eagles. Miles Garrett came back to win.
Kenny Pickett's already won a Super Bowl. Last guy to touch the bowl in the Super Bowl.
Kenny Pickett. I think the ideal guy would have been Daniel Jones.
That would have been the ideal guy. Hold on.
On that note, D-Bot has a question for you. And remember what your little notebook says.
Go ahead. Wow, that caught me off guard.
But the coach's competition, obviously we brought Daniel Jones down here to compete with Anthony Richardson. You mentioned right after it happened right after the news broke, does AR ask for a trade? So that aside, salaries aside, what do you think about this competition? Who's going to be the day one starter, in your opinion, in Indianapolis? The day one starter, I'm not ready to sit there and say, likely come on dan you have to i don't have to yeah i just i just the way i look at it and this is why i said is richardson going to um ask for trade i'm not sitting here saying that teams are going to be knocking down the door to go get him type of thing.
He has had moments that have been very encouraged. But it's hard to, and you guys know this, it's hard to just get rid of some of the, I guess, judgments that have been made against him.
Especially in your own building. And if all the conversation and the noise about how things were going down last year are true i just think that's really hard you gave a guy 14 million dollars upwards of 17 million dollars to come and compete that that's that's a very clear message to anthony now i've talked to people that have kind of disagreed with the anthony wasn working hard narrative.
In the building? Not saying that is in the building. Really? I've had people say, nope, works hard, prepares the right way, he's working hard.
Now, maybe it's not to the extreme that you want your starting quarterback, but people in the building, I've heard that. So whether it's's true or not i just think it's hard that once people within the building i would imagine some people because it has to come from somewhere believe a certain thing about a player it's just hard to shake that and so i think it's daniel jones got a great opportunity but i think it's very clear anthony richardson the's telling you, like, it's time to put up or shut up.
Yeah, and I'm optimistic, you know, because D-Buck gave me a motivational speech earlier today. D-Buck gave me a motivational speech, and I've read a lot of the blogs, you know, from the Colts fans that are all pissed off at me for just, you know, having a front row seat to football for a long time, being very lucky to have that seat and just seeing a lot of people that don't end up being what they could be because of, you know, the way they go about doing their business.
You know, a lot of it revolves around like a work ethic. A lot of it revolves around like having a passion for job and things like that.
So whenever you say you talk to people in the building, they've said that. that's interesting.
Let me ask you this question. That's very, very fascinating.
A lot to learn. It's a big, obviously it's brand new.
You're the quarterback. And he hasn't played a lot of football either.
So coming into the league, coming into the draft, I think most people around football knew, okay, this is a boomer bus guy. He's either going to be this or he's going to be that.
And it's a lot figure out um have i seen it you know people change it year three year four and really learn how to start being a pro yeah are those few and far between absolutely so as a coach fan yeah i'm very optimistic in march 12th going into his third year that he starts to figure it out dan jones a lot of people are excited about dan jones more excited guess, than I am. But Dan Jones can turn the corner and figure it out too.
But yeah, as a Colts fan, the guy that I would want to be the day one star to end to figure it out and to do all the right things behind the scenes and show up on Sundays, more importantly, is Anthony Richardson going forward. I agree.
And you know what? I'm the same way. I read a lot of messages from Colts fans to me last night.
They're being very mean. You got to do what you got to do.
I appreciate your passion. I hope he has the same passion for the Colts because that would be cool.
And I think this year it could happen. I think he could hear all this noise, see what happened.
He got benched last year. And the reasons why he got benched were very real and I think very much brought to his attention and told to him.
And it's like maybe he takes it all this offseason and rolls with. Has not played much football.
Has not played much football. So I will say, I have changed my tune.
I'm optimistic about Anthony Ross. Alright.
I'm optimistic. Hell yeah.
I think it's very difficult to do that stuff, but I think, why not? Why not AR? He has no choice. I mean, he has so much talent.
So much talent. That's why it's so like...
I'm a supporter.

I'm a believer.

I've been Anthony Richardson's fan since college.

He's calling his game.

Yeah, you're making up sources in the building now to say things that aren't real.

That one will probably get me in trouble.

And I know this, like Daniel Jones.

Listen, everything you hear about Daniel Jones, great teammate.

Hardest worker.

Puts it all, you know, does everything the right way. Okay.
Okay. Fast.
Okay. Tall.
Yeah, I mean, he's the anti-whatever that was getting said about, you know, that whole, I guess, situation last year. So I think if AR.
If Anthony Richardson can't beat out Daniel Jones, let's be honest.

If Anthony Richardson, in a very clear message from his organization,

it is time to go, can't beat out Daniel Jones,

then it's a miss on the draft pick.

Agreed.

Agreed.

Agreed.

Hey, good luck out there, boys.

Thank you. Thank you to both of you.

Good luck to both of you in your competitions.

Now, there's been some quarterback moves during this free agency tendering period here or whatever the fuck this has been because actually free agency starts today at 4 o'clock. Connor has a question for you, Dano.
Yeah, Danny, always a pleasure. Gino to Vegas and Sam Darnold.
Wish I could share the message. Excuse me? Nothing.
Go ahead. I missed what you said.
No, please enlighten me.

No, no, go ahead. Vegas

and... Yeah, okay.
Alright.

Kind of a wuss move there, but yeah.

Then Darnold to

Seattle. Obviously, Seattle, no DK,

no Lockett. They're kind of going to look

completely different as what they have in the past.

And, you know, Gino down,

reuniting with Pete Carroll, kind of a cool story as well.

How do you feel about those two moves? Yeah? Yeah, the best, but also the worst. I'm super happy for Sam Darnold, ecstatic for Sam Darnold.
You're going to a very different situation, and that's my thing for Seattle is don't take Sam Darnold and pay him this think you're you're not going to have to add some pretty significant pieces in the next six weeks or so and you're going to get the same results sam went from arguably the best situation quarterback wise in the nfl outside of maybe philly to one that is dire right now in seattle yeah i love jsn And Jackson Smith and Jigba's really starting to come on at the back end of last year. He's going to be a very, very good wide receiver.
He had two really good wide receivers last year in Minnesota, three pretty darn ones, pretty good ones if you include Naylor. Hawkinson's a star.
They don't have that star tight end in Seattle. And the offensive line was top five, top seven in the NFL, specifically when it came to their pass protection.
That is not Seattle's offensive line. So while I'm ecstatic for Sam Darnold that he got his money, the situation is going to be very different unless some things get added to their offense.
And my challenge to Seattle is you better add at least another starting wide receiver at a minimum. You better kind of include a tight end that's a little bit more of a difference maker.
And offensive line has got to get a lot better. Now, Clint Kubiak, their offensive coordinator, runs the same system.
That should help the offensive line a little bit. But, you know, if you go back to the last two games of last year, the main thing was, well, Sam Donald stinks.
And then the main thing that I kind of was on board was like that offensive line got whooped. And that's kind of when he became a lesser player than he was last year.
So I want to see what Seattle does. I'm not ready to sit there and say we're going to get repeat performance by Sam unless things change.
I like Gino in Las Vegas. Brock Bauer is really good.
I think Las Vegas has okay receivers. Like I'm a big Jacoby Myers guy but they're gonna have to add some pieces as well offensive line is a little bit better than I think the play at quarterback made you think Tino was fantastic last year with about offensive line but they need to add some pieces I love the fact that he's with Chip Kelly they need another starting offensive lineman at two but I think Gino gives them this team the chance to just compete in games on a week-to-week basis for now.
Yeah, I like Geno's competitive spirit, especially with the journey he's been on. Maybe Danny Dimes has a similar one, but with Geno, the way he's kind of got to this point, I respect.
And the fact he turned down that deal with Seattle to go to Las Vegas to rejoin Pete Carroll and his mission, and Chip Kelly over there as offense coordinator. And Tom Brady, seemingly on a day-to-day basis, a phone call away, because I think he's all in.
Great scene for Geno Smith. Yep.
Back to the same. Yeah, the thing I'd say about that real quick though, Pat, also is just because he's there doesn't mean they shouldn't draft a quarterback if they like one in the first round.
They absolutely should. We think that with most of these teams, too.
Like Giants, even if they get a vet, they should probably, if they like a guy, they should draft a guy and do that. The whole at least give them a year to learn under, which Minnesota could do with J.J.
McCarthy yet again because he wasn't maybe in the building as much last year because he was hurt. But, hey, don't want to stall any growth, especially with what we're hearing about J.
what we're hearing about jj is like guy start the clock this is a guy is what everybody has been telling us i can't wait to watch it the draft is going to be fascinating on that note tone has a question for you yeah i do dan besides uh shador and cam ward like is the number three quarterback whoever you think that is do you think they are worthy to be drafted in the first round? Oh, absolutely. I still think Cam Ward's going to go number one.
If I was Tennessee, that would be an easy choice for me right now. I think number two probably ends up being Shador Sanders somewhere.
I don't know exactly where, but I'd be surprised if he got outside that top ten world. I think that third quarterback is more than likely going to be Jackson Dart dart i don't think jackson dart gets out of the first round i watched jackson dart's tape and i go what am i missing i actually dm'd lane tiffany hasn't gotten back to me but i said what am i missing about jackson dart because i think runner and athlete wise he reminds me a little bit of jalen hurts he makes some throws on throws on tape.
You're like, I mean, this is big-time football. Now, the pushback that – or I guess the hesitation that you have is there's two games late against – I think one against Kentucky and one against Florida where he makes two or three decisions.
He's like, dude, what are you doing with the football in that moment? So I don't love that. But those are conversations you have to have throughout the process with these guys.
But I'm a fan of jackson dart i don't think he gets out of the first round i texted field yates i don't think he gets to the pittsburgh steelers at number 20 or 21 wow um i just don't when you watch the georgia game he's unbelievable in the georgia game and so and he throws the ball downfield as well as any quarterback in this draft. He's super confident with what he's looking at.

And a lot of people continue, and I haven't watched him yet, and I'm going to,

but a lot of people are talking about the Tyler Shuck player out of Louisville.

I can't make a comment on him because I haven't watched him,

but I think those three guys are first-rounders.

I don't think Jackson Dark is out of round one now.

Let's talk about Jackson, too, because he was out with the boys on Halloween.

Out with the boys on Halloween, everybody was mad at him and they went for like 400 yards three days later and I think the boys love him. Like I think Jackson Dart is beloved by his team.
Obviously he's in a Lane Kiffin offense so there is a lot of explosion and everything like that. He's been able to handle all of it.
Ole Miss not in a conversation during the playoffs so everybody kind of forgot about Jackson I think you know. All these guys on primetime TV get a little bit more convo.
Cam and Shador also not in there, but they are literally vlogging the entire process. So Jackson D'Arc kind of disappeared from the conversation, and then once people start pointing out like, hey, Jackson's beloved by people, then you start showing highlights.
It's like, why not? Why not, Jackson D'Arc? Dan's point, too, which hurts him just in the public eye, that Florida game, I think it was three interceptions in the fourth quarter when they win that game there in the playoff in that Kentucky game. They were both national games where it just didn't look good in the fourth quarter.
So I think that kind of put a sour game. It was like, Tony, it was like the final drive as well.
And the weird thing is, in both of those games, he plays really well. And then he gets to the final drive, and he makes two or three just outrageously boneheaded decisions.
And everyone will go, well, that's a bad sign or a red flag, or is he panicking with the football? But then there's so much other evidence of him not doing that. And that's why I think, like, I've said this.
I remember talking about Will Levis in this way, when you would go, I want to have the conversation and sit there and ask him, what the heck were you thinking in this stuff? Because maybe he thought something different or saw something different that you just get the explanation of understanding why they're thinking. But I think as a runner, he's a lot like Jalen Hurts, man.
And as a thrower, he pushes the ball downfield so, so well. I'm a big fan of his.
I honestly think he's close to quarterback two for some people. In the entire draft, you're saying over instead of the Cam Shador conversation that's currently taking place? Yeah, I absolutely think he is going to be quarterback two for some people.
All you need is one team to think anything. You know, one team think he's quarterback one, and you can go.
What about the offensive style, you know, coming from a Lane Kiffin, Ole Miss system, and then going into the NFL, because, like, Cam Shador, McQueen, like, for, like, more pro-style offense. Would you have any concerns about that? You watch Shador's offense, Steve Butt? Yeah.
Heavenly Father. Oh Oh my gosh, man.
Shador's offense tough to watch man I don't mind the lane kipping offense. I think one I think one you take a ton of reps of seeing space and Seeing how the field and coverage plays out.
I think number two your challenge to make really low low percentage. So this isn't a dink and dunk offense.
He's not kicking the ball to the perimeter on an outrageous basis, getting easy completions. You're taking shots down the field.
Three, they ran real concepts. I have so many examples of full progression reads or full field reads.
A lot of RPOs, which, again, are part of the NFL. So I don't know how greasy is with protections.
There's examples of I write down you have no clue what protection is, but that's kind of the case for most of these kids right now. And so you've got to, again, sit down and have the conversations with these players throughout this process of tell me what you know about protections.
I'll go back last year with jayden daniels if you watched washington washington really ran one protection all season slide protection and jayden just knew what the problem was that's what allowed him to play so fast and kill the blitz so i'm i'm i don't knock the lane kiffin offense for him shadour's offense for me is way harder to understand. I would tell you, I don't want to

make this number up. I would tell you at least 50% of Shador's completions or throws are at the line of scrimmage.
Just screen or RPR right now. And then 25% of his passes are terrible pass protection and you're going, well, there's nothing anybody can do.
And so there's a small group of plays that you really can try to, for me, gather a fair evaluation of Shador. There's a lot that Shador does really well.
I just think it's tough because you're either asking him not to do anything or there's no chance for him to do anything. And I think that's why, for some people, they might get hung up on Shador as a tough kind of evaluation.
Well, he's definitely tough. I think that is something he proved with that offensive line that you chatted about.
Let's talk about Cam Ward now. Cam and Shador obviously training together as we should, a bunch of highlights there.
Shador's spinning it all over the place. Him and Cam, you like Cam Ward a lot, right? Yeah, I think Cam Ward's the number one pick and it's clear to be the number one pick.
I've said this, I think the thing that surprised me more about Cam Ward than I anticipated was how well he throws the ball from the pocket. I mean, there are so many examples where that ball, he hits his back foot on the ground, and that thing jumps out of his hand, jumps out of his hand, and it's an absolute rip.
And the ball downfield, I mean, he throws the seam ball as good as anybody gosh i'm

trying to think you know jayden threw the crosser really well but throwing the ball in between the

hash he absolutely steps on the football and rips it and so it's clear to me that he's he's the

normal picker reminds me a little bit you know ironically steve mcnair coming out of school and

and just his style he's not an electric athlete he's not a dynamic athlete, but he's athletic enough. And do I wish he was an inch or two taller? But Cam Ward, clear number one pick.
If I was Tennessee, I would not trade out of the pick. Tennessee Titans need a quarterback.
Cam Ward is the quarterback they should take says dan orlovsky and dan ain't stinky

with that one that ain't stinky dan you ain't stinky dan only a few i'm trying to see my cam

ward notes um my cam ward pros my plus is about cam ward doesn't get fooled post snap ball jumps

off of his hands it looks like he's thrown on the trampoline he does not hesitate he got a quick

trigger he does not force the football which for again a little bit surprising for a guy that

Thank you. thrown on the trampoline.
He does not hesitate. He got a quick trigger.
He does not force the football, which for, again, a little bit surprising for a guy that I guess is ultra-aggressive. That's a sick throw.
Ultra-aggressive and kind of a playmaker. I think he's really strong in the pocket with his feet and his eyes tied together.
There's plays where he has examples of controlling the line of scrimmage, changing some protection, changing some plays, scenes, middle of field, RPOs. There's multiple times where he takes over in the fourth quarter, takes over, and you're like, best player.
This just throws nuts. Just pin it on his chest.
Super accurate with the ball. I think he makes you hold your breath at times, because you're like, oh, gosh, what are you doing? I don't have a lot of cons.
Did you write, oh gosh, what are you doing in your notes? No, I just had to go. Okay, you went off the prompter.
Got it. I like that.
Honestly, I would tell you for both these guys as well, both Cam and Shadour, they got to get some receivers that could catch the ball a little bit more. And so there's moments where your Cam's tape, I'd go, why are you forcing the ball to Restrepo? then you watch you're like i know why you're forcing the ball to restrepo and the same with shador why are you just only looking at travis yep i know why you're only looking at travis so um doesn't have a blitz plan you know but again that's the case for so many of these kids coming out of college so and he's an average athlete but But I'm a big fan of him.
He's played a lot of football. A lot of football.
Obviously, at different levels. Incarnate Ward over there to Washington State all the way through Miami and that ACC run they had.
And it feels like if you watched him last year with Miami, football gods love him. Football gods absolutely love him.
For this game. I mean, yeah, this is where it all started, I think.
This was when the magical run kind of all started with the Virginia Tech because Virginia Tech had 20 returning starters. This is going to be the tough one.
And then there's a Hail Mary full of grace that connects. And then a couple weeks later, there's a fumble.
Like, there's just so many things that went their way this year, except for the Syracuse game, obviously, at the end. But it feels like the football gods like Cam Ward as well.
You do. Okay, congrats to the Titans.
They got a guy. Hell yeah.
Congrats, Titans. Sounds like the Titans got a guy.
On that note, Ty has a question for you. Yeah, Dan, when you look around the NFL, which quarterback do you think is primed to kind of take that next jump up this next year? And do you see either one of the guys getting drafted? Could they have a season like jaden daniels did this past year potentially but there's two guys in the league right now that i think should i think will and have no reason not to no excuse not to um so in the draft i'll touch that real quickly i think tennessee needs another receiver outside of calvin so that their offensive line should play better i want to see them add another receiver the giants are intriguing because the dable will see if they do it the same with cleveland um you know the jets raiders so i want to the only one i feel really confident about right now is cam as far as where he's going to get selected i think the two guys that like one more so than the other don't have any more excuses.
So one, Trevor Lawrence down in Jacksonville. I like what Jacksonville has done.
Go back to the addition of Liam Cohen and bringing him and what he has done immediately for Baker Mayfield or did for Baker Mayfield. Brian Thomas Jr.
is absolutely fantastic. We've talked about it america probably didn't get the opportunity to see him a ton he's a superstar in the making at the wide receiver position gabe davis is there i like a lot of what jacksonville has done it's time for trevor to take a big leap it really is like you're too talented of a player i know it maybe hasn't been the most ideal situation for you at the start of your n NFL career.
And there was a moment with Doug Peterson where it was trending that way and it didn't. It's time to take the jump.
There's all the pieces in place for you to become what you were expected to become at that number one pick. The second one would be Caleb.
You know, Chicago's had a fantastic offseason. Gets the hottest offensive line in football over the last maybe 10 years since Sean McVay got the job.
Offensive line additions, interior. One, all those guys know this system.
Tooney knows it. Drew Dahlman knows it.
Jonah Jackson knows it. The plug-and-play ability and the understanding of you're going to get protected.
I think the biggest challenge for Caleb is trusting that the play call and the offensive line are actually going to do what you're telling me as a player it's going to do. Because I do think there are moments where he didn't have that last year.
I know what you're telling me on paper. You're going to protect me and this and that.
I don't trust you. I don't trust the guys in front of me.
And I think that's going to be the biggest thing is Caleb getting to that point where he actually, when coach calls the play to get the ball to your hands, just get the ball to your hands. We're not asking for you to hit a home run here.
We just want a completion. Or when the defense tells you you're not getting the home run, get the ball to your hands.
Quick, okay? And then when we take our shot, we take our shot, and if it's there, let's take it. And so finding the balance for him there, I think there i think is the big challenge but you know with dj still there and the tight end group that they have the back group that they have the scheme the offensive line i expect caleb to take a big jump i was one that was hesitant when the marriage of ben johnson and caleb came together there is a part of me that still is because i want to see caleb do it in time and everyone talks about well look what he did with jared goff for all you people out there that say that jared's really freaking talented now i mean jared he used to be now he's the guy yeah now they're chanting jared goff jared goff that's all they chant in detroit that is their chant up there and to your point what i think you're about to say is jared goff plays in timing like that is what he does like that he is a he grew up he was trained by sean mcveigh that's the basis of the offense he was trained in it and so when you're trained in early on it becomes muscle memory it becomes second nature it's a habit caleb doesn't have that so it might take some time i've said this is he capable of it absolutely But you got to go have that be a staple of your game.
But and I think for him as well,

it's. So it might take some time.
I've said this. Is he capable of it? Absolutely.
But you got to go have that be a staple of your game. But, and I think for him as well, as much as you want him to take the jump, I really attach Romo Doomsday taking a jump as well, because to get this offense pass game-wise to where you want it, those two receivers would be a big part.
Yeah. And a lot of great points there.
You didn't bring up Bryce Young. Fascinating.
Bryce Young in the same boat. I want to see the Matt of Whitehouse still.
Okay. Bryce Young in the same boat as Caleb, though, I think didn't really trust offensive line for a while.
Whitworth brought up whenever Tooney gets sent to Chicago Bears, Tooney can look at Caleb in the middle of the game and be like, hey, we got you here. That's the type of thing that an OG offensive lineman can do that can hopefully build up a little bit of trust in that because if you don't have faith in your offensive line, and I know this as a punter, if you don't have faith in the person blocking for you, you're not thinking about executing.
You're thinking about whether or not you're going to die. That is literally all you're thinking about.
Survival is the thought as opposed to making a play. That can affect people.
That can certainly affect people. And that's all the defense is trying to do.
They're trying to get him to get his head down and get his eyes down, just trying to make him think about it so he can't do everything else. Number one's not there, take off.
Number one's not, instead of going, all right, just number two, number three, all right, cool, ball comes out of my hand. And you're totally right.
If you don't have that as a quarterback, you don't, I think you see, I'm not worried about the execution. I'm just worried about something bad not happening.
Yeah, and that's why you see the running in the spring. Every preseason, and I obviously don't have every snap like quarterbacks do, every preseason when we go at the punt, and we got two McDonald's workers and an insurance guy blocking for me, and it's a lot easier to run and block a punt than it is to block for a punt, especially if you haven't done that.
The only thing that's going through my head is we are catching and getting this. It is just a, well, bang.
We are out of here. Never even thought about that.
I got front flipped on hard knocks. Cincinnati Bengals.
Guy comes around the edge on the insurance salesman, I think, and boom, flips. I do a full front flip land.
I take a front flip bump on my back on slow motion and hard knocks. The guy made the team because he blocked the punt.
I for you, buddy. Good for you.
What a nightmare. Cincinnati Beck was always the fourth preseason game.
That was the worst. I didn't sleep the night before.
That's one of the first things we look at, too, as defense. Is the quarterback watching a rush? Now, Caleb's not a guy that's a statue quarterback, but are you watching the rush? Do you trust the protection? And talking to AQ and other other centers that's been around they say it's a very small group of quarterbacks that actually control things at line of scrimmage when you control it i guess you can trust it

more you really understand it go ahead daniel yeah and if you guys going back to the college kids

and i think this is why these guys you got to spend time talking with them if you had to ask

me what would be the number one complaint i have about shadadur, is I think sometimes he predetermines looking at the rush to get away. And easy to say, hard to do, because the offensive line is so poor in protection.
But there's plays when you sit there and go, you're just looking at the rush. You're not even trying to get the ball to your hands and just hoping to create or go make something happen or create some space because there are moments when you watch them in the pocket you're like man that's such good pocket operational space movement and you're finding that little small pocket where you get to throw the football to or from and it's awesome and then there's clips where you're going you're just catching a snap looking at the rush immediately and going okay where's the opening and And I think that's a real thing.
And I think that's something that as a team, you've got to sit down and watch film with him. Like if I was watching film with Shador, I would be like, why did you do it there? Tell me what went through your mind because I watch you get the snap.
You might look one way and then immediately you almost get into that shortstop athletic position of, okay, where am I i moving to instead of trying to find an over or an in or a check down and so um to deep what's point you know i think that's something as a defense you're watching taping going this happens far too far more than i actually like it to happen and i think that's got to be a conversation that gets had when you're evaluating him. Shador, give it an answer.
Well, what you didn't see here is the previous six plays. I actually got sawed in half.
He did an interview where he talked about his weakness was he tried playing hero ball way too much, and I don't know if he was referencing what Dan was talking about there, but I think he knows his weakness is what he had to do in college. I'm excited to watch Shador as a pro because it feels like his entire life they've been making him a professional football player.
I feel like I've watched it, first of all, on socials and everything like that. And I think whenever he gets to his home, wherever it is, I think he's going to do just fine.
Same with Cam Ward. Work ethic.
You've got a work ethic. You can figure it all out.
If you don't, you're just going to continue to be crap. So let's just work.
Let's restore the dignity of hard work. I respect the hell out of that.
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March.

Need a little bit of the luck of the Irish this week for the Steelers.

Because you guys don't have a quarterback.

St. Paddy's Day.

St. Paddy's Day.

Right around the corner.

March 17th.

All the time.

Tim McAfee's going to be calling off. He's getting old right now.
He's getting ready to just go ahead and slaughter some green beers. Good move.
Yeah, he's going to do it, as he should. Monday.
Used to do that. I think I'll certainly have a green beer, too, this weekend.
Sure, have to. Sláinte, you know, with the lads, with the Irish people, give a little bit of love.
Not only used to do that, though. We really used to do it.
St. Patrick's Day used to be one of the ones.
I think Christmas was obviously big. Halloween was big.
Night before Thanksgiving. We didn't do that much.
I never really did that. New Year's, obviously.
St. Patrick's Day was the one.
That thing started at like 8 a.m. Fourth of July.
Fourth of July is a good one, yeah. St.
Patty's Day, though, kegs and eggs, 8 a.m. start.
By noon, you're at the nightclub that you're normally at about 2, 3 a.m., and they're open in Pittsburgh. You're right in the middle of it.
You walk outside, there's sun, and it's like, what the hell is going on? Then you go back into another place, and you start hammering more alcohol and by five or six o'clock it's over you know that's all she wrote you go take a three hour four hour nap and then guess what well we got nighttime st patrick's day now and almost you come out of the you almost come out of the cave people thought you were down but instead you move the rock and you show back up at those bars and at those clubs and say have a safe practice there we do this or not and nobody that was there in the morning is there anymore so you really feel like a survivor you feel like you're one of the guys that have made it and then if you see somebody that you were potentially hammer drunk with like 11 12 hours beforehand and they're out there's a moment of we did it good for you yeah congrats we did it still happy saint patrick's day inevitably march 18th horrendous day. Like one of the worst of all time.
But happy St. Patrick's Day to everybody, and I love the hats that you got on.
Now, nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler is here.
March 18th is actually the greatest day ever. Really? Specifically, 1986.
Happy birthday to you both. Say your birthday.
It is. Wait, you had the same birthday? I didn't know that I was celebrating.
I didn't know I was celebrating your birthday. You were.
Every St. Patrick's Day.
Exactly. You probably brought in most of my birthdays.
Most of my birthdays probably blackout. No! We're just having a good time.
I appreciate that. Just having a good time in the name of Darius J.
Butler. Hell yeah.
Joining us now live from Manhattan, Ohio, is a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup winner, ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawk.
A.J. Okay.
Still got the armchair look. I don't know if there was a lighting different.
Maybe that's my look now. Yeah, maybe.
All good, by the way. Mazel, bro.
Shalom. Yeah, thank you very much.
I agree. St.
Paddy's Day is amazing. Yeah, it's one of the ones, you know, especially if you're in a place where it's celebrated.
Pittsburgh, absurd. They always say like Georgia, somewhere in Georgia.
Savannah. Savannah, Georgia is always big.
Chicago. South Boston.
How is Boston? I assume that's a pretty good one. Actually, usually what they'll do too, and maybe this just happens by chance, but I remember when I was in high school and a couple years out of high school, the St.
Patrick's Day Parade through South Boston was also with the state championship in hockey. So a lot of people, you go in the morning, make your way through South Boston as the parades go and everything incredible, and then you go to the Garden because that's where the hockey games are going on all throughout the day.
And usually those are very big games. Everybody knows what's going on.
Well, not to mention any names, but we got one of our guys out of jail at about 5 30 a.m on saint patrick's day i think i know who and then we went straight from the jail straight to uh downtown and uh slept in the car in the parking garage for about 40 minutes or so then we opened the trunk which there was a keg that was potentially taken from somebody else's house and we just we just one-headed do i know this guy oh yeah oh yeah you certainly do i think he was in here you certainly do i was yeah he was yeah yeah i was i was oh i was potentially with person whenever they got arrested and uh that was a

wild time to be alive then i was almost put in the position of like i'm pretty boozed up right now but

we gotta get old buddy out because we got big st patrick's day come up here in about four or five hours. So we obviously pulled some strings, made some things happen.
We go straight from the jail, straight down to a parking garage, straight into tapping the keg in the trunk, straight into. We're all having a good time here, aren't we? Yes, we are.
Walking past police officers just moments before we're in jail. Obviously publicly intoxicated.
Having a great time. Good to see you guys.
Sláinte, sláinte. Then we kept it moving.
Inevitably, that case would get dropped, I believe, against a person. It was all bullshit.
Nice. Like we've been saying this entire time.
Yeah, that's a win. Wasn't that when Joe Hadley of Joe Hadley washing windows and suns killed that homeless guy? No.
Yeah, see, these are all lies. That was a different one.
Hadley was on jail, and I don't think he ever has been, actually. He's a good lad.
And if you do know your windows cleaned in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, you callede hadley yes and i wish i had his business's number right now because we would say it and he would be so fucking mad i'm already booked i don't need people calling me what do you gotta every time you say my name my fucking people start calling me you want to windows clean i don't want to clean your windows i already got enough windows to clean joining us now oh there it is right there I'm not going to get it. You're going to be so mad.
See you on April 9th. Haddlebags and everybody else back in Pittsburgh.
Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who stole the evening last night with a spectacular four-point play to beat the Milwaukee Bucks here in Indianapolis, Indiana. He was wearing a fresh pair of D-Generation X Pumas whenever he made the absurd play.
And now he joins us. Ladies and gentlemen, Olympic gold medalist from Iowa State, dog, Tyrese Halliburton.
Yay, Tyrese! How you doing, dude? I'm good, man. The intro gets better every time.
Well, especially whenever you do the shit you do last night. Hey, let's run through the play real quick.
So we run a tunnel screen here, okay? We're going to run a a picking uh little picking skim you're coming around i heard in a press conference you said you wanted to start on the other side and you rarely get the ball in this play feels like this play was made for you to get the rock can you go through it you know kind of step by step here and at what moment like when did you know that was falling as soon as it comes off the hand yeah it felt good when i left my hands you know i had a lot of in and outs last night so when uh when i let that one go it felt good but we uh we call this we call this colts i believe and uh it's an end of the game package for us and uh it's like a rub what do they call that football it's like a rub route yes is that what it is yes yeah and so typically when we run this i'm always denied like whoever's guarding guarding the ball denies me or like turns around and sees me and takes me away. So I was trying to get on the other side, so we threw it to the opposite corner kind of like as like a fade, lead me all the way to the other corner and let me shoot it that way.
But Aaron and Miles did a great job of kind of picking my guy off there and just made the shot. Had to feel pretty cool.
I mean, as the ball is falling and you have Giannis in your face, he's six foot nine. Seven feet tall in your face doing this right in front of Derp.
What's his name? The coach, Derp? Darvin Ham. Darvin Ham.
The pictures of him with his hands in his pocket still and Lillard obviously sitting there. Just so many magical, memeable moments out of this.
And the Pacers, they posted a photo of you while you're shooting it with Giannis and it said yes sirs on it. Like there is posters galore in there.
But as soon as that falls, you immediately know, okay, I got to knock down a free throw. Is that the immediate thought or what is kind of the mindset after it goes in well when they challenged it i didn't know i mean i was hoping that it was a three i was hoping that i didn't step on the line um and then they confirmed with me right away that it was a three so now i was thinking you know the game being on national tv people might uh appreciate some overtime so i thought for sure they were going to wave that foul off.
Then once they said that was a foul, I was thinking about it was making the free throw. I know what it's like to be an ice kicker for a little bit right there, but I haven't missed the free throw since All-Star knock on wood.
We will knock on wood. Should not have chatted about it.
If we're going to talk about kickers, that would be something we would definitely not mention, but I respect the confidence, and you've put in the work to feel that way. Yeah, they reviewed it for what seemingly was 10 minutes.
I was watching it, and I'm like, this guy's just standing over there, and I think Reggie even brought up their icing. Tyrese right now.
You stepped up, knocked it home. I love it.
No problem. I love everything about it.
More TV time, bro.

Reggie or Tyrese? Yeah, you weren't flexing

a little bit, too. You're doing a little standing around.

I saw you. You should have done

a little bit more with the shoes. Hey, great

night for the DX Pumas, pal.

I should have hit the chop.

I don't know why I didn't hit the chop.

I was too caught up in the moment.

That's on me. I got to be better there.
Good sell.

Yeah, but I heard you say that you would have been fined $25,000 or something if you would have told them all to suck it over up in the moment. That's on me.
I got to be better there. Good seller.
Yeah, but I heard you say that, you know,

you would have been fined $25,000 or something

if you would have told him,

oh, suck it over here on the sideline.

Is that accurate?

Probably.

I would have called Triple H,

asked him to look out for me or something.

I would have, you know, good WWE marketing probably.

This is the NBA that we're talking about.

These guys get paid hundreds of millions of dollars.

They get fined $25,000. They're calling Triple H and me.
Yeah, he could have said it. Sell a sweater or something.
Yeah. Sell a watch.
Sell all the clothes that you wear. That jacket.
That big poofy leather jacket. That's $28,000, $29,000.
That's about $4,000 or $5,000. I wouldn't go that far.
I wouldn't go. It's not that far.
How about this? This fit right here. I like that.
This guy's wearing 40 grand, walking in the building, you know, just selling. There's no way it was 40 grand.
Bag of peanuts. I've seen some good memes about this.
You know, typically my outfits always get memed. One of them was when you go to your boy's wedding, and then this is the night after, and all you have is your dress shoes.
That was a good one. Your outfits, costumes get mean because you always look great.
This is exactly what I would wear if I was heading over to play Milwaukee Bucks. Now, talk about the game and winning that.
That's big, right? That's a big win for the Pacers last night. Last night was, obviously, it was a national TV game.
But that's a huge game for you guys. And coming off a three-game schneid, you come back for your first game after missing a few last night, get a win.
Where are we sitting at now, and what does the rest of the season look like for the Pacers? Can I be talking shit openly to everybody about us winning this thing? Well, you always can do that, that pat of course okay we are tied with tied with milwaukee and detroit or we have the tiebreaker over detroit we're tied with milwaukee for the four seed um and we play we have a back-to-back coming up with philly and milwaukee and the winner of that game against mo on uh saturday i want to say yeah in milwaukee we'll have the tiebreaker uh for the fourth seed but uh yeah it's it's it's tightly contested there between four to six so these next 18 games are really important okay so that's how many we got left 18 obviously uh can't wait to make it out to one of these games to watch you know the pacers show in life uh before the playoffs because whenever we get in playoffs, we know that the Pacers are about to run it. And look out to the Eastern Conference because there's a freight train coming through, and it's hitting jumping sideways, fading threes to beat the Milwaukee Bucks.
That's a beautiful thing. Go ahead, AJ.
Yeah, Tyrese, I'm curious. How many times have you practiced a shot like that? I don't think casual fans have any idea how difficult of a shot that would be, even on air, let alone with Giannis in your face fouling you.
But how many times have you practiced something like this? Well, this shot specifically, honestly speaking, we put this in two years ago. I haven't made this shot in probably two years.
Well, I haven't got the ball to make it in two years uh but i don't know i feel like uh over the course of of your career of course being a basketball player you imagine shooting so many different shots and different angles and stuff like that so uh in this play i'm not even thinking about it's not like this isn't a shot like oh i practiced this so many times no this is just basketball feel and having confidence that i could make you know any shot any shot in that moment. You said you had a lot of rim out.
You weren't the only one. It felt like all the boys were, but every time I looked at the score, you guys were in the lead or battling.
Feels like you got a good squad, legit. And how do you feel about Carlisle and the boys? Yeah, I feel good.
This is obviously a great diagram play here. You know, I feel like we missed a lot of open looks last night uh that's that happens over the course of the season you know you can't control every make every miss uh but i feel like our process has worked really well and uh feel really confident about the way our offense has looked you know since all-star break and throughout the course of the year so um you know i'm definitely definitely excited about what the rest of the year has for us i'm looking forward to you know competing in the playoffs here soon you did that thing again where you just shifted the gear with your voice box.
You know what I'm definitely excited about what the rest of the year has for us. I'm looking forward to, you know, competing in the playoffs here soon.
You did that thing again where you just shifted the gear with your voice box. You know what, I'm going to have a different fucking voice.
I didn't. That wasn't intentional.
That just happened. You're back.
We're coming back. Downshifted a little bit there.
It is wonderful. Darius has a question for you, Tyree.
You were talking about playoff basketball, and you guys are, everybody in the NBA right now, kind of making that push. I know I'm a guy who really locks in the NBA post-All-Star break.
What's it like in between those lines as far as the intensity and how does it step up post-All-Star break, making this late push, and then into the playoffs? Well, yeah, I mean, I think over the course, it was a little different in football. You guys are probably looking at the standings the majority of the year because there's only, whatever, 16, 17 games.
But in basketball, it's hard to, like, you want to know where you are, but I would say seeding and stuff like that really isn't impacted until the last, like, 20 games. You know, you're right there in contention with everybody.
And then it's about tiebreakers and stuff like that. I feel like that's what you pay more attention to through the course of the year right when you play a team three times you know by a third game it's important you know you want to get that tiebreaker because you never know where everybody could end up in the end so after all-star break it's really about you know locking in and and just I don't know the the the intensity really picks up because you know we played Milwaukee is our third time playing them.
And I would say the intensity behind this game was much higher than the first two. And, you know, I'm assuming that this weekend will be obviously even more important.
It sets up a pretty good, pretty big game, you know, because, you know, we've been neck and neck pretty much all year. And, you know, we're looking for a crash.
It's looking like a crash course that we're going to play each other in that four or five games.

Don't want to take away from what Detroit is doing

because they're looking really good as well.

They could be right there with both of us.

But, you know, you want to be that four seed

because you want that home court advantage in that first round.

Feels like the NBA is doing this, brother, right now.

Feels like everything, like the vibes, conversation.

You know, you hit a shot like that on a Tuesday.

Like that's happening on a regular basis. It feels like the NBA is in a good spot.
Remember last time we talked to you, we thought dead. Remember? Big time.
I thought the NBA was dead. You remember I was even telling you that.
Instead, it feels like the lads are chatting a little bit more. We're learning more.
The game's getting better. Teams are getting more interesting.
You know, it feels like it's a good time in the NBA. Do you guys feel that right now or no? Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I mean, outside our league, we never feel like it's dead. I mean, I hear what you guys are saying.
We obviously all talk a lot, so I hear the opinions of the team. But I think, you know, as we get to playoff time, I think that's when everybody really locks in, everybody's engaged.
You know, more storylines, more rivalries, all that stuff is created. And maybe a little bit more drama, which I think all sports fans appreciate.
So I think we're at a good time right now as we get here in the playoff time. Did you hear Rich Paul say he's a vegan? Do it all.
Stays away from all his beef. Yeah, he does.
Don't like all drama. Speaking of, we've got Shaquille O'Neal joining us in about an hour.
Excited to chat about his thoughts on the current state of the game. You know, that should be fun.
That should be a blast. I'll ask him about your big shot last night.
I saw him react to it in real time. Now he's gotten a chance to kind of digest it for about 14 hours, what his thoughts are.
Shot of the year, people are saying, Tyrese. Shot of the year happening last night.
Felt like the place was packed out too, right? Good vibes last night? Yeah, yeah. It was definitely packed in there.
I think obviously our fans love, you know, we love when we get national TV games, you know, because in the past couple of years we haven't really had that opportunity. So I think as a fan base, as a team, we try to take advantage when we get that opportunity.
And, you know, you play Milwaukee, right? Like that's a team who there's obviously a little bit of a history with both of us. So I feel like the fans are all part of it.
And that's what makes our league great. Yeah, it was awesome.
That was an awesome experience. I should have been there.
Should have been there. I was supposed to go.
Couldn't go. Couldn't go.
We're supposed to go. My mom, you know, she's in charge of the tickets.
This is maybe the fourth or fifth time I said, hey, Mom, I think you got to hold two for Pat. And she goes, why? He never comes anyway.
That's what Mom said. She's going to give you some shit when you finally do come.
She's going to be like, hey, I always hold these tickets for no reason. Well, it's still, Mom, okay, that, A, I appreciate that.
I understand the passion that she has for it. And watching a game alongside of her is an honor.
She's in there. She's a great fan.
She's very well loved by everybody, too. They kind of know who she is.
With that being said, Mom, I got a lot going on. I got a two-year-old.
Wife and I got a two-year-old. It's not as easy as just, you know, we're going to go on Tuesday downtown and watch the game.
There's a lot that goes into it. You'll experience this, okay? Well, I have your back.
I have your back in these conversations, of course, because I know you got a lot going on. But, you know, Mom thinks the world revolves around the Pacers.
I need to let Mom know. I apologize for that.
I can't wait to watch the game. I'll see her soon.
I will see her soon. And then, obviously, the lady.
I saw her last night. Jade was down there.
A lot of comments about what you were going to do last night. I did appreciate seeing you just go and see your lady and just have a nice old night in Indiana, right? Yes, sir.
Yes, sir. Came back, watched Paradise.
Because of the snow, by the way. Evil Love, right? I've heard it is great.
So what is it? I've heard it is great. So I'm on episode seven.
Great show. Oh, brother.
Great show. Was it snowing in there? Or was it, is it a, they said that that is normally the, what do they say? Who's in it? Is there all white people in there? What is the...
Paradise. No.
Oh, okay. I didn't know that.
Are you okay? They're saying what Tyrese normally does. Oh.
Stop them. Hey, D-Butt.
Did they tell you when I went to the Combine they gave me the D-Butt name tag? I said, why did I get the D-Butt name? That's not real. D-Butt wasn't there.
D-Butt wasn't there. It was either D-Butt or D-Bone.
It's Indy. Hospitality.
It was either him or D-Bone. And to be honest, the D-Bone one was on its way,

but we thought it was disrespectful.

Because if you see the D-Bone one, I think you would have, you know.

Louis Elastic?

Yeah.

I mean, Lombo got it with mine.

So, I mean, it just makes sense.

Yeah, exactly.

Lombardi came in with Anthony DiGiulios.

No reason other than it was available at the time.

People need to remember that.

Ty has a question for you, Tyrese. Yeah, Tyrese, obviously it's a midweek game, regular season, but still, that's a big matchup.
Hitting that shot, where does that rank in your career in terms of big shots that you've hit? I mean, probably, I'd probably say number two in terms of big shots because I hit a game winner against the Bucs last year in the playoffs as well, so probably right up there, top two. I mean, what are the odds that we're really going to remember a regular season game 15 years from now? But, hey, you never know.
I will remember. Hopefully we make more moments where that's not a top five moment.
But currently I'd probably put it number two. That's a big shot, dude.
Four-point play to win a game, especially in, like, playoff time. That is a – Over Giannis, too.

Yeah, over the Greek freak.

He's good at basketball.

That's a great shot.

With Dame standing on the sideline right in front of their bench.

I mean, that is – that's a great moment.

Are we – we'll try to do that, actually.

We should probably get him like – Yeah, you got to get that blown up.

Blown up, yeah.

Put that on the ceiling, maybe the bedroom.

You know?

On the ceiling.

Yeah, so you can see yourself all the time. That's where he's got his mirrors.
Yeah, I knew that was coming. Cody Rhodes mural.
We don't know. Mark.
Yo, Todd, by the way, I saw the Lisa Bluter bobblehead. Yeah, I know.
You're broken. I know.
Cold nickels broke. Yeah, I didn't touch the goddamn thing.
We had a mobile cross guy come in. What? What? You made me bet my gold medal for that bobblehead.
You're sleeping out the wheel, pal. I told you, hey, Lisa Bluter's yours.
Take good care of it. And under your watch, under your stewardship, she gets broken in two.
I don't know what you want me to tell you. I can send it to you in pieces.
Yeah, do you want the feet and the upper body? Do you want both pieces or just the – do you – I don't want – it's broke now, so that's totally fine with me.

Maybe we'll get you a new bobblehead or something.

Oh, they got my bobblehead.

I give you my bobblehead these days.

Oh, okay.

Maybe my Iowa State one.

That would be even better.

I don't know if the tie is going to put that in front of him,

but we will.

We will definitely put it in.

I'll have you know Coach Lisa Bluter told us she sent in another one.

She did.

I saw that on Twitter.

That's good for the brand. We'll see.
Not the tie, just to you. We haven't got it yet, but we will be patiently waiting for Coach Bluter.
We'll see. Logistics.
We've got the whole thing going on. Good tweet.
Conman has a question for you, Tyree. Yeah, Tyree's one of those big shots.
Could come against the Celtics, but you guys can't beat him when it matters. But do you guys have any big rivals this year? What's this guy's problem? I think last year you and the Bucs.
You thought that shit was funny? I think last year you and the Bucs had some beef. Do you have any beef with any teams this year that maybe – I mean, I know the Knicks, there's that kind of fake beef because you did say you and Josh Harden, Jalen Brunson are all boys.
But who's the team this year that the Pacers really hate?

I mean, Coach Carlisle says to beat teams, you got to hate them.

Hell yeah.

Whoever's in front of us, I think we're supposed to hate.

I think, obviously, last year, playing the Bucs and the Knicks in the playoffs,

there's a little bit of a rivalry there.

And then, you know, your Boston Celtics as well. They beat us in the playoffs.

So, you know, we'd... Yeah, but Detroit this year, you guys, haven't it?

Ah, right.

Yes, I guess that is a thing back in the league.

They're trying to bring back the bad boys rivalry, right?

The malice rivalry.

Listen, I don't know who's trying to bring that back.

You guys are?

Because aren't you guys getting a little...

No, I think the public might be trying to bring back the

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Who's trying to bring that back? You guys are? Because aren't you guys getting a little... I think the public might be trying to bring back the malice rivalry.
But, I mean, that's good for the league. I get it.
My only thing is, I said this last year about the Bucs, I don't really consider it a rivalry until you get a playoff matchup. So, if we play the Pistons in the playoffs, then I think you can say that the rivalry is back.
But until then,

I think it's just

competing. Like I said,

Coach says you've got to hate them to beat them, so it's all part of it.

Carlisle, what a special guy.

You imagine Tyrese in his stands just throwing

haymakers at fans? I could actually,

especially Tyrese. You couldn't imagine that.

Need more rivalries. Maybe he's putting

those Pumas through people's faces.

Watch out for me, Stu. Sweet chin music.
Switching music to the pedigree. Okay, it's going to be tough because if you connect on switch, you're going to have to pick them back up.
You're going to have to switch in. What if it's a big fella, big drunk fella? You know, he doesn't go down.
Isaiah Stewart. How tall are you? I'm 6'5".
You're a pretty big dude, too, bub. So you're going to go...
I'm talking about big as in wide. Big fat guy.
Oh, so a small guy. You know, wide guy, couple brewskis in them, probably not going down from the sweet to the music.
I think drunk fat has a button you could hit for sure. I think you could get your button.
Everybody has a button. Everybody has a button, by the way.
But if you're going to do a kick-to-the-gut pedigree, then lift person up, then you can switch in them. Then I think you get the one, too.
Are these DX Pumas going to be for sale? I think right now they're a player edition. They're just for me as of right now.
We're the good from this company. We can't get it.
It would be nice.

But I have a great relationship with the people at WWE.

We're having conversations. Hopefully it's a collaboration opportunity in the future with some current,

some past superstars.

You guys know I'm a big WWE fan.

So if I can do stuff with DX, with Triple H, with the final boss with he's with Under Armour now with the final boss oh John Cena you know I don't know what his nickname is right now as a bad guy but whatever that's the main one that's the main one we want whose side are you on here in this entire thing I don't think we've talked you know I love good competition so you know I'm with Cody's been great to me we had great conversation at the rumble but i mean seen as my guy so yeah that was that was rude that was a little reckless but i think i i fall somewhere in the middle i'm probably leaning towards john but if cody wins he's resilient you know i i respect that he's he's had to fight past the whole bloodline to get to where he is today.

So I'm sure the final boss and Cena aren't anything to him, but we'll see.

I'm looking forward to it.

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Okay.

Confirmed.

You didn't say it.

Not a coach, guys.

You didn't say it.

Wow.

Okay.

Oh, I was going to say it.

Hold on one second

I'll say it

Go get your mark

I'm ready

Come on look Badaboo. Badaboo.
Badaboo. Badaboo.
Badaboo. Badaboo.
Whoa! There we go. Right on time.
That was really good. Thank you for doing that.
That was better. I don't like that.
All right, congratulations, buddy.

That was a big night last night.

We can't wait to watch the Pacers finish out the season strong

and then play off basketball right around the corner.

Welcome back.

You were hurt, right, last time his first game back?

I was hurt last time his first game back.

All right, we're happy you're back.

Ladies and gentlemen, Olympic gold medalist, future world champion,

Tyrese Hallberg.

Yay, Tyrese.

Could be a world champion in WWE and the NBA. Could.
Wow. I mean, it's going to be hard to get that strap.
I do appreciate that you just, you are very much openly a Celtics fan right to Tyrese's face. How could I not be? Swept last year in the playoffs.
You remember that? Yeah. We go into Godden in New York, do some Goddening, Knicks out of the way, and then all of a sudden we got the Celtics, and it's like, yeah, this is going to be great.
This is going to be a fun series. And it was not.
They just did. They just won four straight.
Well, the craziest part was that the Pacers, after those four games, you watched all of them, it should have been two, two, or three, one Pacers. Yeah, because there was.
They just shit down their leg. Moments.
Remember, there was a ghost in the garden that stripped... He just dropped...
Tyrese... Dribbled it, just dribbled it, and somehow the ball bounces sideways on the basket, and now it's over.
We lose that game. Okay.
The pass. Inbound pass.
The inbound pass. Oh, yeah.
The Jalen Brown three-pointer in the corner. All right.
It's like 108-101 Pacers with two minutes left in Indiana, the game we at before the Indy 500 I think they should have won that For sure That was when I hit the I revved the engine McGee was there McGee was there Still doing it They still revving that thing Or is that just playoffs I haven't been to a game this year. So I – I believe it's just playoffs.
It's been tough to get that. I don't know.
Going to a game is a lot. It's a lot.
You can all the way down there with everything going on. Wait, you rev – they have like a NASCAR there? IndyCar.
Fucking – IndyCar. Yeah, you're right.
IndyCar. Welcome, welcome.
That was IndyCar. Jeez, Luis.
All right. It's all racing.
It's all racing. It's not F1, so it's better than that.
Come on. Amen, Luis.
It's all racing.

It's all racing.

It's not F1, so it's better than that.

Come on. Amen, brother.

Open weekend.

Big weekend this weekend for G1.

I hear there's a new guy going to take the top spot.

You're talking about Londo.

You're talking about Londo.

Londo, they're going to let him win this time, I guess.

What do you mean, let?

What an asshole.

Amen.

If he is the pole sitter, he will win the race you mean, let? What an asshole. Hey, man.
If he is the pole sitter,

he will win the race.

Well, that is G1 racing.

Follow the leader, leader, leader,

follow the leader.

Get this thing done.

We had seven winners last year.

Coming off the best season.

And what, 80 races?

No, 23, I think.

Seven different winners.

I'm proud of F1.

So resilient. Just coming back another season.
They've been around for a while. Really? Long time, dude.
I think ESPN's deal is up. Really? Oh, shoot.
I'm getting into it this year. I'm getting into F1.
I'm going to see why people like it. Because anytime we talk shit on F1, I'll have some snob send me a message telling me I don't get it and yada, yada, yada.
It's like, okay, can the boys go on the Indianapolis Motor Speedway and do anything? No. So I don't want to hear it.
But with that being said, a lot of money, okay? A lot of investment, a lot of passion, a lot of pageantry, and those cars do look sweet. Got an American car coming in, too, in 26.
Andretti?

Cadillac. Cadillac.
Yeah, they're driving an Escalade.

Yeah, they... I'll watch that.
Especially because the American Escalade will... Because F1 really loves when everybody's just right behind each other.
The Cadillac Escalade's gonna come and go, nope, we're actually... It's gonna be Monster Jam.
Exactly. F1 meets Monster Jam? That's something I watch.
And that's why they didn't want Americans in it for a long time, right? They were actually actively suing America to get into F1 and to happen? Oh, I know Andretti built a big facility out here, actually. He was trying to get into it, but he did not.
Cadillac is getting in. Shots of Cadillac.
That'd be sweet. Do they have a good car or engine or whatever the fucking bullshit is? We won't know yet until 26.
So you don't even know if it's going to be able to compete? I promise you, Cadillac has the best engineers in the world. It's a great American company.
They'll figure it out. Yes, they certainly will.
Yes, they certainly. Which is why F1 didn't want Americans in for a long time.
That's true. Cadillac's't come in there and do it.
I'll tell you what. When Cadillac gets in, we'll get in.
When's that? Next year? 26. We'll see you next year.
Yep. See you next year, F1.
Starts in Australia this weekend. I will watch.
I will say. I will give it another shot.
I'm optimistic. I'm going to like it.
That's my new thing. I'm optimistic these days.
Here we go. About things that are seemingly a matter matter of fact but i will be optimistic that the opposite is going to happen and uh i'm pumped about that you know i was optimistic that we're going to see both of bosas on one team san francisco 49ers i think mama bosa was optimistic that she was going to see both her boys playing for one team i think the split jersey was going to be no more the split travel was no more.
The Bosa's thought, you know what? Nick and Joey back at it like they were kids in the backyard on the same D line, hunting other quarterbacks. That's going to happen.
Uh-uh. Brandon Bean said, I don't think so.
One year, $12.6 million deal for Joey Bosa to join the Buffalo Beals. Now, remember, they moved on from Von Miller, still kept the door open to bring back von miller at a different price tag and now they signed 12 million guaranteed to joey bosa joey bosa stats over the last few years whenever it comes to sacks have not been necessarily something that'll guarantee like high-end money but he's a game wrecker he's a dog he's a tone setter i think bean loves everything about that aj when you saw bosa was going to buffalo were you as surprised as i was i thought he was to the Niners.
I thought they were going to make that happen. Yeah, I was a bit surprised.
I'm just curious what the Niners may have offered. If he signed a one-year $12 million guaranteed possible getting up to $15 million, do the Niners offer him half of that, you think? I would imagine.
Yeah, I would assume there was some sort of hometown family discount. We don't have all the cash in the world, especially with Brock Purdy's contract looming depending upon this year or next year i assume it was a low ball i assume it was a low ball and then he said you want to lose some money for your brother and he goes absolutely not he goes all right we'll send joe to buffalo then and bean uh he adds a guy on a one year you know mission with all the amount of money they've invested in this particular roster trying to to go win a Super Bowl.
Can Joey help him do that? He's a top-tier guy when healthy. And health has been his major issue.
But when he's out there, he's going to produce in the run in the pass game. And the Buffalo Bills need some dynamic playmakers on both sides of the ball.
I wonder if Josh Allen sent this idea over to Bean. But, yeah, I think he'll be a great addition.
They locked up Russo as well earlier this offseason, and Bernard on the second level of linebacker. So, yeah, they keep beefing up.
Sign a one-year deal with DeMar Hamlin. So, you know, they're trying to figure it out on Buffalo on that defense side to get over that Kansas City Chiefs hunt.
Congrats to DeMar getting another deal with the Buffalo Bills. Obviously a fantastic story, but also great football was played by DeMar this past season.
Shout out to the Yinzer going back to Buffalo. You look at the AFC East now, AJ, you know, there's a lot of question marks here.
Patriots, brand new everything. Jets, brand new everything.
Dolphins, you know, kind of staying put with a lot of the pieces that they had in years past. A lot of conversation around them is, are they ever going to be able to win a big one? Gumpy, after going to Miami, your thoughts on the Dolphins being able to focus and win football games? After spending five days in there, I think it will be tough, but I like what Chris Greer's doing.
No big splashes, but some good moves, bringing in some good guys for the team we already have. Okay, so Jets, Patriots, brand new.
Dolphins, seemingly the same. And then the Buffalo Bills revamped, including in bringing in new people.
AFC East is an interesting conversation with the Bills being the king, obviously. Yeah, definitely the B the bills and even with joey bosa like the biggest thing for the bills especially their d-line was like hey these guys rotate you know constantly i think they're leading d-line and only still played 60 or 70 percent of snaps and that was ed oliver so bosa with the health thing won't even be as big of a problem it feels like but yeah it is kind of wide open it of those spots where, you know, a couple things go wrong for the Jets or the Dolphins or the Patriots.
You know, that other team can kind of slide up there into that two-hole and maybe sneak in to the wild card there. But the Bills still run it.
I mean, there's nothing confusing about that. They are, you know, levels above those other three teams.
They certainly do. and obviously the only reason why they haven't had their super bowl run or super bowl success is because there's been one team standing in their way the kansas city chiefs obviously kansas city has a lot of moves that they have had to make this offseason for their team they get to the super bowl which is still an incredible feat they win the afc incredible feat had the number one record in all of football incredible feat and then they get the doors blown off and off them by the Philadelphia Eagles, which I think he's put a chip on their shoulder, which could make this Chiefs team even more lethal than they have been in the past.
They move on from Justin Reed, who just signed a three-year deal with the New Orleans Saints yesterday. Justin Reed's safety from the Texans, I believe.
Then he goes to the Chiefs. He can kick off.
He can kick field goals. He was an absolute dog for this Chiefs defense.
He gets three years, 31-1⁄2, 22-1⁄4 guaranteed. Congrats to him returning home to Louisiana.
D-Butch, what are they getting down there to Justin Reed? A great player. Smart player.
Great character guy on and off the field in the meeting room. A guy you want in that building.
You talk about his Texans run. Had a great run there.
Had had a great run with kansas city i'm a little surprised i thought he would get kind of close to what the other top safeties got on the market uh but it's a great addition for new orleans they're willing to deal somehow even with their cap situation but great signing with him getting back uh paired up the other uh louisiana native tyrant matthew how about tyrant matthew still doing it? Yeah. High level, Tyron.
Yeah, high level.

Yeah, very high level.

It's almost like because he goes down to the Saints

and the Saints haven't been, you know, you kind of forget about it.

Good luck to everybody down there in the new regime.

Let's go to college ball, shall we?

Rich Rodriguez had a press conference yesterday or two days ago

talking about a new rule in the West Virginia Mountaineer football game. No, I don't really.
I mean, they're going to be on it, so I'm not banning them from. I'm just banning them from dancing on it.
It's like, look, we try to have a hard edge, whatever, and you're in there in your tights dancing on TikTok. It ain't quite the image of our program that I want.
But I told the team today, I said, everything today is about trying to make everybody individual. It's all about the individual.
It's all about the individual. And I said, football is one of the last things that's got to be more about the team than the individual.
And so I just, I banned dancing on TikTok. I guess i did that but uh anything that doesn't look like our program should look you know i mean i think it's just like come on you know really i mean i'm not allowed to do that i guess i can have like i said 20 years from now they want to be sitting in their pajamas in the basement, eating Cheetos and watching TikTok or whatever the hell.
They can go at it. Smoking cannabis, whatever.
Knock yourself out. Where did that come from? Smoking cannabis.
Whatever. There was a question.
I'm so happy he's back. I'm so happy he's back.
I didn't ban TikTok because they're going to be on there. I banned them dancing on TikTok.
I don't want to see them in their tights. I don't want to...
You know? That's what he said. I just want the quick conversation of like the unfiltered conversation.
So there was a lot there. There was a lot there that was certainly coming through.
The cannabis thing came from an earlier question because Pac jones friend of the program obviously west virginia uh university legend top 10 pick top five pick in the nfl draft out of west virginia he told a story uh about how you know he was able to get around the marijuana test throughout the nfl and to be clear i didn't know that was really possible in the nfl and i i got tested a lot i was in the uh substance abuse program for 27 months i think i had 300 some tests in a 27 month period so you're talking about a lot of tests i took a lot of tests so listening to him kind of lay out what he did i'm like well that is actually a pretty good little it's pretty little strategy slide a hand in there do the entirety i don't know with the piss testers that i had it would have worked because they were yeah me too i mean they're right in front of me right there in front yeah. But Pac said he was able to do it, and I believe with the way he set up, he had to...
No, I believe... I was with Pac in Cincinnati.
They test differently depending on who is working whatever teams. Yeah, so I believe that I listened to it, and then obviously at West Virginia we potentially did have a way of going about doing the testing.
Did they test you in college? Yeah. You get tested for weed in college? Yeah.
How often? I got it like twice, I think, in the four years, randomly selected. Yeah, it was truly random.
And NFL is random, but you know like the time period that it's going to, you know. Starts on 420.
Yeah, starts on 420. So, you know, OTAs, mini camp, training camp, those certain times.
But outside of that, you can kind of time and space it out. And college, at least for us, it'll be random.
You know, call up at the practice huddle. Hey, Butler, Hart, McAfee, go in there right now.
It's like, damn. College? Yeah.
So, we had night before we were told. Oh, no.
And then next morning we were in there. So, you know, we had the whole there was a gimmick.
There was a game. Sure.
We're sleeping with you. GNC? No, you just need a Visine bottle, basically, and somebody else.
And then you just sleep with that in your tights so it gets body temperature. You wake up the next morning, pop that thing in the microwave, five, ten seconds, make sure it gets a little bit more heat.
Put that in the tights and you're going in there. And then obviously you go to the stall and they give you the cup and then it turns around and they test the temperature.
That's the big thing is the temperature it is sweet you're good you got it i'm gonna go to workout i'm not saying i did that or anybody at west virginia did it i'm just saying that did happen potentially in drug testing times so he was asked earlier about the um not just about the drug testing policies but the ncaa i think doesn't test for it anymore and in west virginia it's So he was just asking, he was being asked about how he's going to talk to his players about it. And his answer was very good.
He gave a very good answer. He said, you know, it was easier back in the day whenever it was against the rules, because if it's against the rules, I say, don't do it.
You know, like a false start, jumping off sides, against the rules, don't do it. Smoker Reed's against the rules, don't do it.
Now that it's like kind of not really being being tested for and also it's legal in the state in which your school is he gave a speech about excess and you know obviously anything and wanting this and if it doesn't affect this like he gave a very it wasn't a rich right answer that i thought i was going to hear you know i i don't need no hippies like it wasn't evolving he's got to evolve with the times good for him man like even saving says like you have of, you can't, there's certain things you can't be stuck on, I think. Yeah, he's still, you know, we're not dancing on TikTok.
And I'm allowed to do that, he said. So...
He's going to have his... He's going to have his...
Hey, if I'm a high school recruit and I want to go to West Virginia, I'm scrubbing my TikTok right now. I don't want him being anything like that.
If you're a high school recruit and you're a dog, just know that you are very much welcome to West Virginia. And these players exist.
There's a lot of teams that have them. A lot of teams that have them.
Now, granted, the TikTok generation, we're not blaming them. TikTok is an app that has obviously captivated an entire group of human beings at a certain age.
And I think it tries to promote fun and happy and just being a part of things. And when you're doing those dances, you know, you're part of a group.
It's like, I don't mind it at all. But I do appreciate, I've never done it, but we got people in here that have done it.
It's like, you do what you got to do. But I don't mind Rich Rod being like, yeah, that ain't what we're looking for though.
You know, there's other teams that maybe that is their thing. Rich Rod's like, that ain't what we're...
I completely understand what I've seen. Yeah, exactly.
And he said, they're going to be on it. I fucking know that everybody has TikTok.
So they're going to be on it. I just don't want them dancing on it.
Listen, you can watch others dance. You can comment.
Sure. You can even say, damn, that's a great dance.
Hell. I just don't want to see your fucking ass i uh i've been getting some quotes you know from the building of rich rod and he's been evolving he's certainly added to his incredible repertoire of being able to put swear words into places that really nobody has been able to do he is an orator to say the least and you know get a chance to chat with him now after practice and after these meetings and with how he acknowledges you know some of the things that happen in these interactions i couldn't even fathom what he was saying to his friends about whenever i was there just like legitimately i couldn't even couldn't even this fucking asshole just like the whole layout of it but it's gonna take a little bit i think to get that culture it's gonna take a little bit him and matt rule you know matt rule was the first one to ban tiktok i think he had tiktok workouts at 6 a.m the morning of the combine where they had the strength staff print out everybody's tiktok bios and put them on top of uh weights and then push the sled while they're staring at their tiktok bios it was called a tiktok workout is what matt rule said and i think what matt rule and rod are both saying first of all, we shouldn't be recruiting guys that want to do this.
But also, if you're here, we don't want you to be worried about this. We want you to be worried about this.
Trying to build a culture, set it down, is basically what he's trying to do. For sure, and it's tough.
We were just talking about it. We were in college 20 years ago.
These coaches have been coaching much, much longer than that. And while you're talking about these guys, I'm thinking about Bill.
You know, you talk about evolving. I saw a video, I think, of him in Chapel Hill, the basketball game.
Great daps, solid daps. Beautiful daps.
Never seen those type of daps coming from Bill B. I wonder if he's the next coach to a band TikTok and these A&E dances on the platform.
What do we call it? He'll call it a talk tech or something. Clock talk.
Can he do that gimmick in college?

What's that?

He's got to be up to speed.

No, I think he's going to rely on Old Faithful.

I think he's going to call his social media stuff the wrong name.

My face is this.

Snap face also.

I'm not doing that.

He gets a good pop out of it.

He does feel good.

I get a good pop out of it too because what's the combo coming? You know what combo's coming? Anytime you would reference MySpace, it is like, oh yeah, he nobody's updated him on anything. Where's Tom? Is Tom okay? Rest in peace.
Oh yeah, I think he made a bunch of money and kind of just vanished. And then he became a photographer.
And just did it. He kind of just does his own thing.
Created his thing, got a shit ton of money, and now I'm going to go do what I want to do. Yep.
That's nice. That's why you're in my top eight, Tom.
Is it still alive? Is MySpace still a thing? I think JT bought it a few years back. He's going to turn it into a music platform, but obviously that always works.
Really? People trying to start new platforms or revive platforms. I think there was a little bit of an investment trying to make it a music thing, but I don't know.
Oh, is Tom the MySpace guy? Yeah. Yeah, okay.
I had no clue what we were talking about there. Everybody's friend.
Yeah, he was. Yeah.
He was right there. He was just like a cool guy.
He was always there for you. You had no friends? Yes, you do.
You have one friend. His name's Tom.
He created this fucking thing. That's sweet.
Yeah. Didn't know much about it.
It was hard to reach. It's a good gimmick.
Boy, him. Tom had no idea.
He's got no skeletons. The beef and anxiety and stress he was going to cause with teenage women and picking their top eight friends.
Yeah, I mean, a lot of those social media platforms at the early stages created a lot more drama than I think they could have ever intended. Certainly know like writing on people's walls that became a thing whenever facebook in their wall started and then whenever people start tagging photos pull there was a lot of things that were done during that time because people would say i didn't do that and then uh you just go right to their facebook and there's a photo and a post explaining exactly what you did the night before it's like i was not at insert whatever and then all of a sudden you open this facebook app that's relatively new and there's 14 photos and posts from you at that place and somebody actually checked in with you there like hi this is your best friend said that you were there what must have been a man i was not is that you that that started that never happened in the real world before you know i think like um what was a beep chirp uh next to where you at the next stop where you at they had the tracker on that yeah they had like a tracker on the phone and i remember people being like you're gonna you're gonna i was like a teenager or a young young lad listening to older i guess terrible partners now that i think about it in relationships being like this is gonna ruin my relationship it's like well where are you lying about where you are it's like now you can be tracked it's like facebook took that to an another level and now you can just track everybody all the time yeah the transition into being tracked and not being able to just say, I wasn't there was one.
And it was like 2005-ish on Facebook, 2006-ish. And now we're here.
Now everybody knows everything about everybody. And now people are dancing on TikTok, but not in the West Virginia University locker room.
Yeah. Why top eight? Did he ever answer why he only did eight top friends, Tom, on MySpace?

You could do your top four, too. I think

there was like... Oh, a setting?

I think there was levels.

Top eight was just like, hey, here's the eight people

that I hang out with, and then whoever the

ninth is...

Problematic. Are they

ranked one to eight? They're not ranked, are they?

Yeah, I think they were.

I think they were. If I recall...
Would people shuffle it around? Yeah, I didn't get into it. Would people shuffle them around? You could go for eight to eight? They're not ranked, are they? Yeah, I think they were.
Oh. I think they were.
If I recall, I wasn't a big MySpace.

So when people shuffle it around?

Yeah, I didn't get into it.

When people would shuffle them around, you could go for eight to one?

Yeah.

What do you guys do to do that?

That was a big move.

You know, you got to chuck their corn.

Yeah, put butter on them and serve them.

That's tough.

Yeah, I'm glad I never got into MySpace.

I wasn't there.

Yeah, MySpace.

I didn't do much of the MySpace.

I know enough about it, but I didn't do enough paying attention to it. That was back when everyone to get on.
You had to call the internet and hope that they answered. Then they would answer.
Then you'd get on there. You go to aim.
Then your mom picks up the phone in the kitchen and bumps you off. That's how old school that is.
Exactly. I'm rearranging my top eight.
Jesus Christ. MySpace was the one that you could have friends that weren't in college.
We went to college. Facebook, you had to have the college email.
It was for people who were right underneath that cutoff for Facebook when you still had to have a college email address to get on Facebook. Yeah, my senior year in senior high school i think that spring whenever we're about to go to college was when facebook opened up to everybody and you just had to have a college email yeah so like it was crazy that we were one of the first people on that platform yeah but what a game changer just i mean that thing changed i remember waiting for my email everything yeah everything i mean it just like.
Just poking. It was cool to be.
Yeah, there was a lot of that. There was a lot of reaching out.
Poking people was the best. That was an insane start.
That was a hey, hey, hey, hey. You know, and then.
Get my poke. Being able to connect with people was sweet.
You know, like, I thought about if I had that in high school. And I'd go to these soccer tournaments in, like, other states.
Like, it would have been nice to be able to, like, just be like to like just be like hey nice seeing you this weekend instead of hey never see you again like that that it did add it did add like a uh a nice connection to the world now with that obviously there comes you know once that all came to once it all came to the phone when the iphone came out that's what things actually really changed i think yeah just connecting to the world was something that wasn't possible back in the day yeah and then all of a sudden everybody joined a couple of these platforms which leads once again to if you're trying to launch a new platform i respect what you're doing but it's difficult is like blue sky even threads you got zuck funding that thing yep and you got instagram pushing that thing and it's like are you going to join threads sure because everybody's on am i going to use it though probably not blue sky this sounds like a great idea okay what is blue sky what is it it's threads for twitter oh it's basically like no it's just tough to get traction it's tough to get guys a different twitter sorry it's a different twitter it's like a more positive you know because x became a cesspool of political, Bob, you know, all that stuff. Which, if any platform gets good, and by good, I mean, like, if any platform gets popular, it's going to get, you know, there's going to be shit in there.
Just like the real world, there's going to be shit. But what I would like to say is, got to get through that shit.
There's good in there, too. Like, being able to connect with anybody at any time.
That is a fucking weapon that social media has that wasn't always around. Well, even adding to already existing ones.
Like, remember Fleets? Like, they added Fleets to Twitter, and that couldn't even last because it was like, hey, I'm not adding, you know, an Instagram type story to my Twitter. That's not...
I'll go to Instagram to do something like that. Reels taking TikTok was interesting.
Twitter trying to follow suit. Everybody's trying to figure it out.
You know, and we're just trying to have a good time. And this good time will continue on YouTube, ESPN Plus, Disney Plus, and TikTok Live.
Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change their life.
Tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow. Tickets on sale for Big Night Out at noon Eastern.
I feel like I got a good plug in there. Yeah, that's good.
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One half of the hammer, done. Cowboys ball cap tone is here.
Nine-year NFL vet, F1 superfan, Darius J. Butler is here.
We had some news during the break. It is official.
Cooper Cup is being released from the Los Angeles Rams. Now, they were thinking about maybe trading him.
Obviously, Cooper Cupp put out a tweet months ago,

maybe at the Super Bowl, that the Rams had told him

that they were going to be seeking a trade

to get him off of the roster.

He put out a tweet basically acknowledging that

and thanking everybody in LA.

Now, they will just release him instead of trading him.

Now, is this because other teams didn't offer up

their best trade package because they knew

that he would probably have to be released?

Is this because he's been hurt a couple times?

We don't know, but what we do know

is there's going to be numerous teams

I'm sorry. other teams didn't offer up their best trade package because they knew that he would probably have to be released is this because he's been hurt a couple times we don't know but what we do know is there's going to be numerous teams that are going to want cooper cup a veteran wide receiver to join their building especially one who's known to do all the right things on and off the field when he's healthy at boston corner you want him in new england i think you just uh you went from six to midnight whenever you saw that the r were releasing him and maybe not have to give anything up to get him as a Patriot yeah I think the only thing that Patriots fans right now are you know concerned about with this free agency so far is that they haven't added you know a savvy wide receiver vet for that room and it feels like Cooper Cup is that perfect guy a lot of people you know will say Cooper Cup's washed I've seen that on the internet.
I've seen he's old. He's really not.
I believe he's 32. Obviously, he's a Super Bowl champion.
He's a seasoned vet. He still performs when he's healthy.
That's the big if, similar to the Joey Bosa conversation of when this guy's healthy. He's an absolute stud.
I think New England's not the only team. I think every team basically up here, Green Bay, Pittsburgh even, would want him in their building.
The Colts would want him here. I just assumed that some of the places that he would go to would want to be those more top contenders.
We mentioned the Chiefs yesterday as one of those teams. They obviously added or brought back, rather, Marquise Brown, Rasheed Rice coming off an injury.
But there are plenty of teams out there, and it feels like every team who would need a wide receiver, Cooper Cup's kind of on the top of that list right now, especially now that he's been released, and maybe it is kind of a lower number than expected. Cooper Cup, yeah, I would assume, especially if you're getting cut on this particular day, there's already been a bunch of money that's already been sent out.
Speaking of a lower number, especially at the wide receiver position, DeAndre Hopkins is signed with the Baltimore Ravens. Congratulations, DeHop.
Obviously goes over to the Chiefs for a year, has a little time in the Super Bowl. Now he joins the Baltimore Ravens.
There was a photo that was posted a few years back of Derrick Henry, Lamar, and DeHop. And DeHop posed the question, how many TDs would this trio total? Well, we're going to find out.
And I know this isn't the DeHop of like five years ago, and I know it isn't the Derrick Henry of like four years ago, but Lamar is Lamar. D-Hop has a great opportunity here with the Baltimore Ravens, and Derrick Henry had like a full resurgence.
Not that he was ever down, but last year he looked great. I think we're going to find out what that question's answer is, and I'm excited to watch him continue to build over there in Baltimore.
I love watching D d hop play uh play football and i'm sure the ravens fans probably split on this signing you know i'm sure a lot of them are like saying just like what you're saying about cup you see a lot of in that d hops wash but uh he's a competitor he's gonna go out there and work and try to put his best foot forward on a contending team so he'll be playing meaningful football again so we'll see a ton of d hop next year what is it five uh five million for d-hop up to six potentially who knows what the incentives are in um all of the contracts lamar jackson gets another weapon though aj which i think is good news for lamar and good news for the ravens yeah i don't know how if you're like a ravens fan how you could be upset with this sign it's d-hop it's not like you're paying him 45 million dollars a year it's one-year $6 million deal with the Ravens. I think it's all upside when you think of this.
Cooper Cup's definitely going to have to go to a contender. That with a franchise quarterback.
There's only a handful of teams I think he's even going to look at. Okay.
Sorry to derail that. I know Cooper was at the beginning of this.
Yeah, we're talking about D-Hop right now. You know what? We're never going to get back to Cooper Cup too, so thank god you got that out right there you know that is a uh i appreciate i'm just thinking of cooper cup and i'm like yeah the dude's awesome still so is dhup well dhup did the same thing i think one to a contender you know like five million six million at this point of your career you've already earned a lot of money let's try to get into some meaningful football games you know dhop had to do it last year cooper cup obviously has done it a lot with the rams it's like let's continue to do that as opposed to just maybe getting paid more and going into complete irrelevancy which is certainly possible yeah i

mean dhop's still he's still gonna be great in the red zone red zone which is is something the

ravens are always look they're always in the red zone they always it's always something they need

like i mean he didn't he had a great start with the chiefs and then there was the lull and then

obviously you know in the garbage time of the super bowl things went really well. But D-Hop's still D-Hop.
Are you worried over there in the AFC North? Baltimore Ravens loading up. Joey Burrow obviously in Cincinnati.
Cleveland just brought in somebody that's been in your building. In Kenny Pickett as well as keeping Myles Garrett.
You guys got questions of quarterback. You got a question with TJ Watt.
Are the Pittsburgh Steelers going to be okay? Whenever DeHop signs the Ravens, is your first thought, oh, no, we're in trouble yet again? No, that was not my first thought. You're right.
The Steelers have bigger problems on their roster. No, DeHop does not scare me.
The Browns, KP beating them twice is my

worst nightmare of all time.

The Bengals, they don't play defense. No, I think Steelers

are going to be fine. The Bengals, interesting.
Nobody's really talked

about it. Jamar Chase, obviously,

is due a shit ton of money.

I think Rapport told us,

he's got nothing with time to figure that out.

They don't play until

September or whatever, and it's like, okay,

so we're doing that again. Feels like we're going to go through that entire song and dance again.
Then Tee Higgins stuff obviously is very real. And then on defensive side, Trey Hendrickson is allowed to search for a deal.
It's like the Bengals have a lot of question marks. And Jamar Chase said, no, you're worse than add tax.
Tax him! Uh-oh. Tax him! Yeah, we ain't getting no hometown discount.
I know my worth. And also, I know that this could have been done a year ago.
So, we're going to add a little tax. If that is something that he actually means, as opposed to just a bar that he thinks is very cool, that is going to be interesting for Duke Tobin to kind of deal with.
The Bengals are in an interesting spot. Well, and we've seen time and time again, like, if you're going to do this stuff, and JJ just said it earlier, like, get it done early.
Like, you don't want a Cowboys situation where you and wait and wait and wait and then the market just kind of balloons. Like he just won.
I mean, did he win the triple crown last year? Yeah, exactly. So like, guess what? You know, I mean, you could get this done now or they can, you know, extend it a little bit.
And then some other guy who's not as good with him because of what the market is like might end up getting a massive number. And then you're looking at like, oh, wow, we might have to end up giving, you know, Jamar Chase like $50 million.
You kind of have to decide whether or not Jamar Chase is in your long-term plans right now. Like, hey, is Jamar Chase in our long-term plans? Yes.
Let's pay him then. If he's not in our long-term plans, I guess we can continue to do this shit, you know, the song and dance.
Now, granted, what's the number that they're going to be willing to give up, you know, towards their salary cap to build a team? You know, not every team is going to want to spend 35, 40, whatever the number is going to be on a wide receiver. So then what does that mean for the future for the Bengals? And then, I mean, there's a lot in Cincinnati to be figured out.
And the way they do business is not in a way that's like, yeah, everybody's going to be happy at the end of this thing. Well, what's crazy, too, that Rapapsheet mentioned is that he thinks that a deal could get done with, obviously, Jamar, but Tee Higgins as well.
Ideally. Yeah, but Rapsheet snuck that in yesterday and didn't use the ideally.
He was like, I think they get them both done. Yeah, Duke Tobin said it to combine.
Ideally, we have both guys back. Ideally, we are able to get a deal done.
I guess Rappaport also says it, but that would be very anti-Bengals. He said it at the $40 million mark, too.
And that was before they gave Trey, Duke Tobin, ideally, was before they gave Trey Hendrickson the okay to seek a trade, so they were still trying to figure that out. This, legitimately, I don't know if there's ever been a more like, hey, the Bengals need to draft five defensive starters in this year's draft, or they're actually going to give up 50 points a game because they're not going to have any money to spend.
And that's what they did last year. Last year, their defense.
They didn't draft them, but their defense gave up a bunch. And they get rid of the sack king.
Imagine if they don't have Trey. If you don't have 15.5 sacks from Trey, also last year, how bad is the defense? Yeah, I'm very...
The Bengals are fascinating. 17.5, I'm sorry, Trey.
Yeah, the Bengals are a fascinating thing. You know, because their fans are obviously very passionate.
And they've been to the Super Bowl, you know, in recent memory. And they got a quarterback who's an Ohio guy who can win.
And they got an explosive offense seemingly with Zach Taylor. But they just don't look like a team that's going to win a Super Bowl.
You know, and it's like I think they're all bummed out. You know, I think Lou Anarumo leaving there, coming here to Indianapolis is certainly something.
Now there's a big shakeup on the defensive side. It's like, Bengals fans, I think, are very confused.
And I would be as well. We got the guy.
Why aren't we? And then you look across state lines. Ravens got Lamar and they're rebuilding.
Steelers always have a winning season somehow. I have no idea how that works.
And then you look up to Cleveland, it's like, all right, at least we're in a better spot than Cleveland. But you got a guy, a quarterback.
You got a guy, a quarterback. And it's like, does anybody think, anybody talking about the Bengals winning the Super Bowl? Nope.
No. No.
Not right now. And it makes no sense because they got a quarterback that could win the Super Bowl.
And if they were able to block Aaron Donald on that last play, Joe Burrow finds Jamar Chase. They score a touchdown.
They might win the Super Bowl. Now, granted, the Rams might answer.
But the Bengals might win that fucking Super Bowl, and that's only a few years back. And now it's like, well, they're not going to be able to figure out all the problems.
What a weird team to be a fan of, I assume. Legitimately a weird fan.
Duke Tobin, too, kind of backed himself in the corner when he said a couple weeks ago, Jamar Chase is going to be the highest paid non-quarterback in the NFL. Then you see what happens with Miles Garrett.
The longer you wait, you might end up having to pay this guy $10 million more than you anticipated when you initially said that. Like you said, the guys that you know that you've identified are going to be a part of the long term.
Those are the guys you take care of early. Josh Allen getting a new deal with four years left.
Saquon Barkley getting a new deal one year into his contract. You know those guys are part of your next four or five years at least.
Get it done early or he's just going to cost you more and more money. As it goes.
Well, and look what we've been talking about since the Eagles won the Super Bowl. Like, hey, you've got to be able to run the football now and you've got to be able to stop the run.
Are the Bengals with T. Higgins and Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow with no defense? Is that a team you would like, hey, in December when they've got to go and play in cold Cincinnati or Cleveland or Baltimore or Pittsburgh? Is that a team that's built to win in those kind of environments? I don't know.
That goes back to the convo. Nobody says Cincinnati Bengals are going to win the Super Bowl.
That's a shame. Because Joe's a guy.
You're right, though. You wait to pay guys when you're not...
Maybe you're 80% sure that he's part of your long-term plans. Or you're thinking, I want to see what...
Let's see how he responds after one season. If he can do it again.
But with Jamar, there's absolutely no question this guy. You want him a Bengal for life.
So you're right. You should have found a way to get this done.
Yeah. You know the Brown family, though.
This is – no, granted, they're in a new age. They've got an indoor facility.
They sold the rights to the stadium for the first time within the last few years. So everybody's got to dodge, duck, dip, dive, and dodge their way through the modern era.
Speaking of quarterback signing, big one in Washington. Marcus Mariota, who's is back.
Another domino. Another quarterback domino, obviously.
We still have some questions at some other places like the Giants and the Steelers and the Vikings, but Marcus Mariota is returning to the Washington Commanders on a one-year deal. Shout-out, Ouse.
I think a lot of people forget what Marcus Mariota means to the University of Oregon and what he did in college. When we were out there and we got a chance to do the show from out there and he just walked through the Marcus Mariota hallway like this is actually the Marcus Mariota hallway all of his titles all of his records all of his trophies it was like a Oregon loves Marcus Mariota B this guy's one of the most accomplished football players in the history of college ball and it's like he's obviously beloved he's been in the NFL a long time now we all remember him with the titans and then whenever he went over the the raiders and now he's behind jayden daniels and washington commanders and their full rebuild in transition from being a crap and a shite organization into a great one it's like this dude's got to be a great dude like he's got marcus mario has got to be a great human not just saying he isn't a good football player, but great human, I think, is the overwhelming convo about Old Ouse.
Have you seen the – when you popped up, I instantly thought of the mic'd up clip when Derrick Henry ran into Marcus Mariota on the field after a game they were playing against each other. Derrick Henry went and jumped on his back and was going great, so excited to see each other.
I'm like, oh, okay, yeah. You get a glimpse into what kind of teammate Mariota is when you see stuff like that.
And, you know, it didn't end well with the whole Tannehill situation in Tennessee and Tannehill and the Titans would go on and have massive success very quickly after that. So I think Marcus Mariota kind of got cast aside, obviously.
And I don't know if that's the first time he's ever had to deal with that in his life but it was certainly loud then he bounces around now he still has a home in washington i assume cliff loves a nice veteran quarterback in there yeah like even the quarterback series the the original one with uh pat mahomes mariotta was one of those guys kirk cousins in minnesota but mariotta was going through all that you know injury stuff and they were following him the entire year and it does feel like his kid – maybe his kid was being born? Yeah, like – And he went and got surgery, and he didn't know. It was a weird thing, especially to have cameras following him.
Yeah, it was a crazy situation, but it felt like during that entire thing, he was never like a nuisance or like a negative guy. Like he seemed to still just be kind of one of those calm, cool, collected dudes.
Chris Godwin returned to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers earlier this week, and Rapp came on our show and said that he thinks that Godwin turned down like an extra 20 million potentially to remain with the Bucs. Here's he chatting on the Insiders last night.
Yeah, I mean to be honest, I feel like it was like we were really close. I think that when it comes to a situation like that you you have to really, really consider it.
And me and Mariah, we had some really tough conversations, had some really tough conversations with my agent. Because at the end of the day, we're trying to figure out what's going to be best for our family.
And again, not everybody would make that decision. And I'm not faulting anybody that would.
But I think at the end of the day like I was mentioning in the presser like I have to go based off of off my gut I have to go based off off my intuition and what I feel like is going to be best for us in the long run and you know and being here where we what we call home where we feel the most comfortable where we can you know raise our newborn son I think all those things are big factors for us and you know in making this decision people hate moving people hate moving now granted florida and everybody's assuming that it's new england even though i don't think it was ever uh the question was left out but yeah the the reason he said we were really close was it was brought up about going to new england right at the beginning okay so new england freezing cold obviously you deal with uh weather you have to pick up and move up there state income tax obviously very real part of this conversation obviously going to a question you know you don't know what you're getting into what does day-to-day look like in tampa you know exactly what it is he said i i don't hold against anybody that would take the extra money to go somewhere else but for us and our newborn son we're staying here i love it i love it. I love it out of Godwin.
He's a buccaneer for life, and I assume Jason Light loves him as well, AJ. Yeah, I would assume when you hear that he turned down an extra $10 million or something that it was from a team that – $20 million.
I was like, okay, well, what terrible team offered him a bunch of money to try to come there that doesn't have a quarterback? That's not the Patriots. That's not what I think of when I think of the Patriots.
They've got Drake May and obviously are doing what they're doing. But yeah, I mean, just listening to Godwin speak right there, you could tell like, all right, this dude gets it.
Like this dude is a professional and yeah, the Bucs are lucky to have him. I think it's awesome that he's staying there.
And if you think about, you know, what Vrabel's entire thing has been like, we got opportunity and compensation. And I think he knew he was going to have to overpay for some people that he wanted in there but if you think about who he's signing and how like godwin is the culture guy that vrabel is trying to get in there dog complete dog works his ass off be loved it's like that's a pro that you want in your building so that's potentially why vrabel was willing to pay so much like hey uh you are what milton you're a guy that we want in here for sure.
Godwin, you're a guy that we want in here for sure. Crazy that he turned down that.
If it was $20 million, that is a lot of cash to play ball. But once again, maybe he just loves being down in Tampa.
Yeah, we don't know how that was spread out, what incentives, what per game bonuses, whatever the language was in the deal. But for receiving, obviously the money is great and very high on the priority list when you're a free agent.
But for a receiver, that's one of the most dependent positions on the field. So you got to have a quarterback.
You got to have a good play caller. You got to have a good offensive line, hopefully other good weapons around you.
So that would have been a big risk for him football and production wise going to New England. Obviously, Drake May is very, very talented, but we haven't seen what he is in this league.
We know who Baker Mayfield is. We know what that offensive line is.
We saw Bucky Irvin. He was unbelievable last year as a rookie.
You still got Mike Evans, the Hall of Fame, on the other side of you. McMillan, who had a good rookie year.
Otten, who was a good tight end. So whatever other weapons they add, that's a great situation for Chris Goblin to stay in.
Heartbreaker for New England. Yeah, yeah, definitely tough, but you do get it.
And I love Drake May, and I think he's going to be a Hall of Famer, but I feel like around the league, you don't know if the players think that. It's not as if Drake May went out and lit the world on fire.
They still have the fourth overall pick. I think Drake started for one of their wins.
So it's not as if he's you know all of a sudden not everybody's gonna be a hall of famer either yes you know that's kind of coming up in conversation in you know the colts world with me you know a lot of people just attacking me for pointing out things that are obvious red flags in my eyes as somebody you know especially at the quarterback position but i'm optimistic that he'll be able to change. I'm optimistic that AR will be able to change.
But it's like a lot of these guys don't work out. Like that is just a fact of the matter.
Like if you look at the percentages of guys that end up hitting and then guys that end up missing in the NFL draft, especially at the quarterback position, there's a lot of misses. Like that is just – that is how it is.
It's a very difficult position. It requires all of you all the time because the people you're playing against, especially the ones that are good and great, they're doing that.
So you have to do it in return. It's not an easy thing.
So it's like, I agree with what you're saying about Drake May. When I'm watching Drake, it's like he's got all the intangibles.
Seems like he's got what it takes to be a guy. But yeah, massive question mark probably for a lot of people.
Like, I'm going to have to see it. And Godwin at this stage knows Baker can spin it.
Knows that that offense can make magic. And it's like I'm going to stay in the warm.
I'm going to pay no state income tax. I'm going to stay at my house, my community, my school.
And I know Baker and I are going to be able to be productive. I guess that's a whole other added aspect of it to your point yeah nothing against Chris Godwin either he's also played every single year of his career with Mike Evans you know like I don't know if obviously Evans has been hurt so he's been the number one guy during games but going into a season for an entire season if he's been a number one receiver for his entire career it's kind of like the same thing with Tee Higgins like Tee Higgins we all love think he's a number one receiver but he's never been a number one receiver because he's been playing number one receiver for his entire career.
It's kind of like the same thing with T. Higgins.
Like, T. Higgins, we all love to think he's a number one receiver, but he's never been a number one receiver because he's been playing with Jamar Chase.
So it's, you know, that question mark as well. And truly, he is set up better for success now with Tampa, whereas even with Drake, you know, another thing not being talked about as much, like, hey, second year, second offensive coordinator, second offense, like, has to go through that.
Second culture. second culture second culture yeah has to go through that entire thing again now i still feel great about drake and the patriots this year absolutely especially with the new guys they're bringing in to kind of reset everything but yeah it just makes more sets for chris godwin staying home uh david carr on nfl network uh d bone reporting this in group text.
When he was asked which quarterback on a new team is best set up for success in 2025, a breakthrough year, he said Daniel Jones. Wow.
I love to hear it. I hope so.
He's in for a good competition, training camp. It's an easy choice.
Is it? Yeah, it's an easy choice. Until the Steelers sign their quarterback.
Why? No, it'll still be Dan Jones. What's going on with the Steelers? Are they signing a quarterback any time or no? No, like I told you, it's not a full moon until Friday, so Aaron's moon rocks need to charge.
I heard that. You agreed.
Thank you. You texted me and said, you're right.
Actually, I just talked to Aaron. That's exactly what's happening.
So, no, nothing, nothing. AJ, how do you feel about Aaron has said nothing to me? I don't know about to you or to anybody, I would assume.
I assume he's not said anything. All these situations that have happened over the last, what, five, six years we've done this with Aaron, there is always leaks from people.
And then Aaron comes on this show and he goes, anything you hear is not coming from my team okay my team does not this is not how this goes but every off season there is sources are telling us sources are telling there was a report today that was coming on the show today on our show today it was making its rounds around pittsburgh with like actual media people i was getting texts from people in pittsburgh hey heard today's a big one sad that i'm missing it but but I'll catch the clip afterwards. What do you think he's going to say? And I'm like, who? I'm actually asking who? And they're like, isn't Aaron coming on your show today? I'm like, no.
Who said it? It was being reported in Pittsburgh. Like he's coming on the show.
He's making his decision, which even more so leads to Yenzers going, I'm tired of waiting for this guy. Aaron never said he was coming on the show.
We never said he was coming on the show. But the expectation, I guess, from some people is that he was going to come on this show today at the start of the new league year and make his decision on what he wants to do.
Does he even want to play? I mean, there's like, there's so many levels to this, but the entire city of Pittsburgh is like, well, we're waiting. And he's like, okay.
Okay. I didn't know I had a shot clock on me from a city that I've never played in before.
But also trying to see what the best is. So, like, it is, he's a fascinating cat.
But this quarterback situation, like Giants, are they talking to Russ? And Aaron? So if Aaron goes to Pittsburgh, does that mean Russ is going to the Giants? What about the Vikings? How come they haven't just come out and said, JJ's our guy, we're not looking at a veteran quarterback, and how come we haven't heard anything about the Vikings potentially trying to sign Aaron? This is us just all being like, Aaron at the Vikings would be sweet. You're right, though.
The Vikings, if that's the decision they're making, like, hey, JJ's our dude, they're going to have to eventually say that. Why wouldn't they have said that by now? But once again, they don't have to do that, but that could be a hypothetical that people start

reporting. Today's the day that

Minnesota's going to come out and say that JJ's,

even though Minnesota never said this, and they're

probably not expecting to do it, that's kind of

seemingly how this world works now. It's like,

Minnesota's going to have to tell us who their quarterback is

before he ended it.

It's like, they never said

that they're going to do that. Just like, Aaron has never

said he's going to do it. Has Aaron even said he's going to fucking play again? I don't know.
Legitimately. He hasn't said anything.
He hasn't said anything, has he? You tell me. No, for real.
I'm the one I say all the time, yeah, I think he's too good to not play. I think he will play.
But that's just me saying that and as a fan of watching him play. And I want him to go to Pittsburgh, too.
But I don't know anything. I don't know if he knows anything.
Yeah, you want go to pittsburgh which i think is a that is actual news like people in pittsburgh should be like aj hawk who i don't want to put like a rating system on aaron's friends because i don't know if there's a top eight he's top eight he is in aaron's myspace top eight for sure like that is no questions asked so that is what he wants aaron has heard the please via text messages from maybe some yinzers about potentially going there but aaron is also probably hearing shit from other places as well and this is like a massive decision for aaron rogers you know in his entire life so i uh i am eager for him to make his decision i'll text him every morning let's go that's literally what. Or I'll send, like, the eyeballs because I know the eyeballs will get him, you know, because the eyeballs are like, oh, what do you know he'll send? And he'll go, what? And I'll go, let's go, dude.
And then there's no response afterwards. You know, there's no response.
So I think everybody's kind of eagerly awaiting. But in Pittsburgh, it's a lot of, like, this guy needs to fucking tell us whether or not he's still.
Come on. Right now.
We're about to think of it. And it's like, I assume the Giants, some Giants people are probably thinking the same thing.
And then Vikings people, you listen to Dan Orlovsky talk about it, he's like, well, he doesn't, we don't, no way. Bad idea.
Okay. Alright.
Russ wants him to do something as well, doesn't he? I assume Russ does. I assume a lot of these rookie quarterbacks are wondering what the draftable quarterbacks are certainly flustered about what's going to happen because, you know, where he goes matters.
How about Kirk Cousins, you know? Like Kirk Cousins, everybody's just there's been different reports. There's no way they're going to keep Kirk Cousins, have Michael Penix Jr.
be the quarterback, is what everybody says. You know, thanks.
Then there was reports during the combine. Falconscons are okay with paying kirk cousins 37 million bucks and having to be a backup quarterback and it's like is that real or is that not real come on haven't heard his name at all being talked about in this entire quarterback carousel though so maybe it is real yeah i mean i feel like why wouldn't it be real you're already he's already guaranteed that money from the falcons right yeah yeah you drafted Pennix with the idea that if it doesn't work out with Kirk Cousins, he looked great for a run, and then he looked terrible before they benched him.
So, I mean, Kirk wouldn't want to be a backup, of course. You only got a few years left, I would think, as a quarterback.
But, yeah, unless a team is willing to give something up to get him in there, I can see him being a backup there in Atlanta. Dan Rolovsky said Kenny Pickett's going to be the starter in Cleveland.
AJ, your thoughts? Didn't say definitely. He said there's a chance Kenny Pickett's the starter, which there definitely is.
There's definitely a chance Kenny Pickett's the starter in Cleveland. Didn't even think about that.
I was just like, all right, Kenny Pickett's going to be, like, the veteran backup now. That's going to be, like, his new role.
And Rolovsky was like, who else? Who else is going to be there? No chance. Zero percent chance.
Can you pick? Really? Number two overall pick. Zero percent chance.
Number two overall pick, you know? And Schefter said they're taking a quarterback. And then you see what Mary Kay said about Shador.
So maybe Kenny starts the season? Yeah. First couple games.
See how it goes. See how it goes.
And then you bring in the rookie. Or do you drop the rookie in there and have Kenny Pickett be the veteran voice of reason and interesting for Kenny that he is now that guy though you know like in my first my thought whenever you got traded there I'm like all right Kenny Pickett's getting brought in for some veteran you know leadership here to do a little and it's like not that long ago he was drafted to be the guy for the Pittsburgh Steelers and now in my head my first reaction is like good for Kenny Pickett doing this.
And yeah, Dan Rolowski mentioned he'd be a starter earlier today. It was the first time it crossed my mind that like, oh, Kenny Pickett might be the fucking starter for the Cleveland Browns.
That's real. That is a very real situation.
You're saying no. That's just my opinion.
I don't have any sources on this. Just my, well, I guess that can't be used as a source.
So yeah, according to my sources, Kenny Piggy will not be the starter. He'll go to rookie quarterback, and he will be the starter.
According to sources, also known as my thoughts, because I've talked to a lot of people. So do I count or not? I think I should count.
This is my own. Hey, Kenny's a great guy to have in that building.
And, you know, Mariota just got signed. I just talked about Kirk Cousins being potentially a backup because Michael Penix, he doesn't have the cleanest bill of health either.
So when you lose a quarterback, we all know how everything could just go downhill. You have no chance.
So, yeah, I can see him being in the building. But if I'm Andrew Barry, you just gave, you know, obviously miles 40.
I don't know where they are health-wise or signing-wise with their offensive line. But if you have a decent offensive line with Stefanski, I think you put a rookie quarterback in there that you feel confident if you draft at that number two position.
And we've talked about so many times how the backup quarterback position is the position that is going to get playing time at some point in the season because of how long the season is. You get a Kirk Cousins-type quarterback for two games, especially down the stretch where you need to win for a playoff chance.
Yeah, you're going to be pretty pumped. You held on to them and just ate that $37 million versus the massive dead cap hit that I assume is contract.
Let's go to hockey, shall we? Ovechkin, Ovi, is just nine goals away from breaking the great one. Wayno's goal-scoring record.
He's going to do it this season. This is insane.
Yeah, it is insane because this was at one point thought of as untouchable, unthinkable, and here we are just nine goals away with a lot of hockey left to play. And he did it in a season in which he broke his leg and came back.
So when you look at that, it's one of the all-time great achievements in sports in general. If he's able to pull this off, which I think he will.
And then there's the conversation of if he does do this, does he come back next season? I think that all depends on how the Capitals' postseason goes. Right now, they're the best team, record-wise, in the NHL.
So they got a good shot at a Stanley Cup. Does Ovi break this record, maybe win a second cup and ride off into the sunset, or does he come back for more and chase more? What does Ovi Diesel want to do? What else is there to chase if you already get the goal-scoring record? Do you want to be remembered as the greatest goal-scorer of all time? Well, he is certainly that, and that was not him scoring on that empty net right there.
No, he passed it up so that guy could get his first career hat-trick. Which is unbelievable, because we're

talking about history. He could clap on that

thing from the blue line.

Which was also big... That would have been

fucking sick if he would have done that. A big narrative

on him early in his career was he's not a great teammate.

He doesn't pass the puck. He's selfish.

All he wants to do is score. And then you see things like

this as we evolve over time.

Was that the Russian... The KGB?

Was that a Russian conversation? Wasn't that kind of the thing about Russian? The KGB? Was that a Russian conversation? Could have been.

Wasn't that kind of the thing about Russian players

as a whole? Was there a little standoffish maybe?

Obviously the language different than ours.

That was kind of the talk about Russian players as a whole.

Yeah, there's a couple stereotypes like that. Not as

physical, a little more flashy,

don't like to play defense, just like to shoot.

But then we see Gino when he comes to the

Pittsburgh Penguins. He's awesome.
Teammates

love him. Everybody loves him.
His parents

are beloved by the entire place.

And Gino will fight you. And I think Ovi

I'm sorry. But then we see Gino when he comes to the Pittsburgh Penguins.
He's awesome. Teammates love him.
Everybody loves him. His parents are beloved by the entire place.
And Gino will fight you. And I think Ovi, he's been so awesome for so long.
Watching his ass just fucking, he's just waiting. And then as soon as that thing comes over, and I think he has a kid now.
I think I watch him and his kid hitting something in the driveway. It's like, what a weapon.
Nine the all-time record that's impressive now speaking of records here's a man that has all of them you want to just talk about the amount of uh success that an athlete could potentially have both while playing and retired this man's name is at the top of the goddamn list he is now teamed up with the wonderful company beatbox who I watched their Shark Tank last night to learn a little bit more. Three founders.
It is a carton of wine-type party punch is kind of how it's described. And it has 11.1% alcohol in it.
Okay? It is a good time quick. Well, there is now a Shaq-themed Beatbox.
It is blueberry meeting lemonade in a flavor mashup so big it could only be inspired by this man ladies and gentlemen Shaquille O'Neal hold on hold on we have some hold on we have some in the fridge yeah we got some in the fridge we gotta we gotta cool it down you drink that cold I assume? It's delightful? Yes, I do. First of all, you know the rules.

Okay.

Tank top only.

You don't have the tank top only.

I talk to you, dude.

Come on.

Come on.

What the hell's going on?

He definitely forgot the rules.

What the hell's going on?

I don't know.

He won't forget again.

The guy with the long hair, what's your name?

Connor Shaq. How are you?

All right. The guy in the middle, what's your name?

Ty. How you doing, Shaq?

The guy with the white shirt? Tony. Shaq.

And then the brother. Let me speak to you in the black language.
What's up, my boy?

What's your name? What's up, O2,

O2, O2?

What's up, my boy?

And then there's AJ, sexsymbol.com. Perfect face, perfect hair, perfect t-shirt.
What's happening, Vin Diesel? Hey, your Shaq gummies. Shaq, your gummies are a big hit with all my...
I got four kids, and they all ask for the Shaq gummies almost every day of my life. There he there you go there you go now i'm ready to talk about beatbox with 11.1 alcohol inside of it this is the shack inspired blueberry lemonade 11.1 percent alcohol at a uh 2 30 in the

afternoon on wednesday something you know this is certainly a good are you trying to race

oh yeah you gotta chug it yeah i'm not trying yeah yeah all right wait wait hold on hold on

pat hold on pat you're corporate and i'm corporate according to rules you're not allowed to drink

alcohol on these shows.

Is that true?

We're only on the internet right now.

I think we're good.

All right, so you sure?

Yeah, I think we're good.

Okay.

All right, you ready?

Hold on.

Hold the phone.

Man up!

Did you give me that one?

Is that one got some gimmick in it?

This one's fresh out of the box.

This one's brand new.

All right, you know what? Let me get a new one out of the box. Oh, you're saying that, huh? There you go.
Try to do perfect. Out of the box.
All right, this is the... There's the box.
Damn, that's good. All right, there's the box.
Good delivery. Shaq, beatbox.
Shaq's not a flavor. I'm going to grab this.
All right, let's do it. Can't wait to see my daughter in a little bit.
Hold on.

You ready?

Hey, Shaq, here's to you.

Always trailblazing.

Always on-round raising.

With the amount of money coming through that guy's brain, it is nothing short of captivating.

Cheers to you, Shaq.

Appreciate you, man.

On your mark, get you, man. Be on the market.
You're set. Go.
You lose. That's close.
You're not entertained. You're not entertained.
Hold on. Hit that thing.
Are you not Oh! Got him!

That's all.

Hey! That was my first beatbox as a whole,

but also the first one

of yours. That is good.

Which one do you got?

Blueberry lemonade.

The blueberry lemonade, I believe, is the Shaq one.

This one is the hard T. It was delightful.

The LSU hard T.

Hey!

That's what his beatbox. Yeah.
Suck that beatbox down. Let's talk about it, Shaq.
How'd you get involved with the beatbox? Yeah, yeah. Hello.
Yeah, you have to. Hey-o.
Let's talk about beatbox. How did you get involved with this? And how excited are you for DJ Diesel with a little beatbox out there having a good time some all summer long well you know I do a lot of like 150 to 200 shows a year and one time at a festival I saw these kids drinking a drink and I was actually thirsty and I tried it I said what the hell is this and then I looked into the company and I saw that my good friend Mark Cuban was involved I called him him and said, hey, Mark, I'd like to meet with the people from beatboxing.

You know, we talked about, you know, a partnership.

And, you know, I've always tried to get at the beginning of companies, you know, to help them grow.

You know, being a sports guy, I have the mentality of what can I do as a great player to help

you win the championship? You know, you mentioned money earlier in your show for me it's never about money but it's just what's about no not really but it's just always about the opportunity you know a mentor of mine passed away yesterday Jimmy Bridgman and he was a great businessman I said yesterday on the show that I tried to emulate him because my father did a great job of teaching me all the torture stories. And every time I would come in with a C, he was like, you know, an athlete lost 30 million.
He would always advocate education. So, you know, this is just me continuing my father's legacy and just, you taking advantage of opportunities because you know pat there's a lot of football players that you played with and played against that don't have anything i know a lot of nba players that don't have anything so i'm glad that i have the opportunity and this is just about being a businessman helping the company grow i wish my assistant was here because i'm gonna tell you guys a secret I never know what I'm making the deal because I never want any deal to be monetary related I join a company I invest I just want to help the company grow and then at the end whatever happens happens but you know being the great competitors green being the great athletes that we are we strive for number one they showed me a chart yesterday and we were you know they was talking about how how great they are i was like we're not number one yeah but we're gonna no there is no but i want boom i want this company i want their ass out of there boom boom so for me this is what it's all about so so when you talk about trusting the process process, you genuinely believe that.
You're more so in the work and the grind, and then we'll find out what we make at the end of that. I respect that a shit ton.
Now, you have garnered a lot of capital through trusting the process, and your brand and the way you go about doing your business is seemingly spotless. I don't think I've ever seen you pick something that isn't a winner.
You gummies. I'm not like a sugar candy guy.
I'm a chocolate guy. I like chocolate candies.
Your Shaq heads gummies. We have them in the office.
The sour ones are the best gummies I've ever tasted. So like selecting that company to work with is a business skill that not everybody has.
This shit tastes very good. And obviously it does because Shaq is a part of it it it feels like you have a selection process and good taste in things that can have success and I think they do the same exact thing with you on the return now you talked about what was what was his name uh guy passed away yesterday I just found out he's a billionaire I think ex-basketball player right ex-NBA guy yeah like good business over there in the NBA world a lot of good good business people i was i was having a conversation with my my son the other day because you know i was you know my father used hard for disciplinary tactics to motivate me which worked for me so my son you know tell them stories so i was telling that i use jealousy to motivate me you know i work my ass off and i don't really care about the the list and all that but one about 10 years ago the forbes list came up of the you know richest retired athletes and i knew i arrogantly said i gotta be number one all the fucking i know i'm number one and when i saw it it was junior bridgeman number one i was I was like, who the hell is this guy? And then Michael, and then Magic, and then Dave Bean, and then me.
Five. So now I'm pissed.
So now I'm pissed. So instead of hating and doing that, now I just study these guys.
Junior Bridgman, I know that name. Play for the bus.
Like, damn, he did Wendy's. Okay.
Oh, I like chicken. I'm gonna start Big Chicken.
You know, Dave Bing is, you know, doing stuff in steel. Jordan with the shoes, you know, I got my own shoes.

And, you know,ave beans you know doing stuff and still jordan with the shoes you know i got my own shoes and you know magic is doing a lot of philanthropy work so i take all that stuff and i just ramp it up even more so you know i always tell people it's okay to be jealous sometimes but don't turn that jealousy into envy turn it into motivation i'm jealous of you brother you got a hell of a show i'm here talking to my cousin, my producer. How can I get a show like that? We're studying everything you do, but you work a little too hard for me.
No, no, no. You work your ass off too.
Yeah, I'm not doing that all day. Three hours in a day, obviously, a little different.
Three hours? Oh, hell no. That's too long, Pat.
Yeah, you could do it though. You could do it.
I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it.
The inside the inside the nba i mean we're stooges so it feeds us and i won't be doing this forever i look at guys like rich eisen and dan patrick and i'm like how and steven a even like how do you do this for 30 years i i don't know how you continue the juice and the energy but with that being said i've seen you on tv and movies and everything since I'm a kid, you know, no, I don't want to age you, but you work your fucking ass off, which is why I think I have so much respect for you and for all the success that you fucking age me. Yeah.
When I'm a kid. Yeah.
When I was fucking six years old, I remember watching you, you know, do your thing. Hey, can we, can we put up a phone call right now? Sure.
I want you to ask your viewers, what's sexier, your arms or AJ's face? Put AJ's face back up there. Hold on, let me get a check.
I can't do it. Yeah, let me get a good check.
I can't do it. AJ's got a fresh cut for you too, Shaq.
He remembered that jawline was... Don't be flexing too much.
Yeah i am so do we take the photo do we take the photo

all right good it's done uh shack i watched i watched that shark tank on this beatbox mark cuban put a million down for 33 percent of the beatbox how far into the company is the beatbox right now and what is next for you and them uh it's a kind of world domination with this thing We just want to continue to grow.

We just got a phone call at Walmart, and we're setting a brand new partnership with them. You know, it's just about growing, you know, just about getting the word out.
You know, we dominate the festivals. We want to continue, you know, to dominate festivals, and then, you know, eventually take it worldwide.
You know, my views and strategies may be different from you know the founders but any growth is great growth to me you know a lot of you know people want to go for numbers and do all this but if we were better than we were yesterday uh to me that's success because uh like one of the reasons why we created shag gummies is because i'm gonna start pissing a lot of people off and you know you can't whip my ass out you know what you can do just bite my head off if i don't set you in any way hey i want you to just take these right here and once they get some clogs up in your throat you just take one of these and you're watching that's right get a little little uh get a little beat box in you and then go ahead hey you can even rip me in half if you go wow look how tough you are rip my head in half yeah that's awesome the shackalisha gummies are delicious that was very good oh hold on aj we do this every time you just sit there talk no he's coming he's coming around the corner i will he's coming around i'm getting all this shit out of the way shack i'm getting all this shit out of the way, Shaq. I'm getting all this shit out of the way.

This isn't shit.

This isn't shit, but you get it.

It is.

Yes, I understand.

Yes, I understand the language.

Now, with that being said, go ahead, AJ.

Yeah, Shaq, getting into basketball a little bit.

What's your thoughts on this current NBA season, everything going on?

There's always drama.

People talking about too many threes being shot, all of this.

How do you think the rest of the season goes, and who do you think actually finds a way to win this thing you think boston can repeat you know when i was a kid the nba of course you didn't have access to all the games but the nba always had certain storylines so when i first started watching the game it was about how innovative dr j. J was, how the style was, and he had the best.

Then after that, okay, here comes this Patrick Yellen guy and this David Robinson guy.

Oh, don't forget about Magic and Bird.

And then when I started playing, it was all about Jordan and the Bulls.

So to answer your question, we have some interesting storylines.

Cleveland, can they overtake Boston?

OKC, can they come out the West?

Who's the MVP?

Derek Roche.

Giannis and Dane, can they get it done?

So, you know, it's a lot of, you know, the Lakers, you know,

Charles Barkley said a couple weeks ago the team was terrible.

Now they're in two in that loophole.

So we have a lot of interesting storylines.

As a fan, I do think there's too many threes, you know. The part that I hate about the game, Pat, imagine every football team running in the same place.
How boring would it be? So I, like, you know, I've said this many times, every team does the three dribble handoff, top of the key, pick and roll, switch. I would just hope that coaches will go back to being innovative.
Use what you have. Like Denver does a great job of, okay, we got the best big man in the league who can shoot and post up.
Let's just do that. You know, but, you know, I think I don't know what the ratings are.
Like I hear, you know, different rating moments. I wish there was like a ratings guy that we can go to and he would show us.
But, you know, the games that we've been having on TNT have been very interesting. The game last night, Indiana, the coach runs a 1987 Hoosier fucking play.
Great shot. Look, right here.
And you got to know as a, you know, defensive guy, don't let Tyrese or Siakam get the ball. I would rather have a guy like Miles Turner shoot.
So they run this little football play. Pat, you.
Pat, you would know what type of call that is. He has a little kind of screen there, a little clear out.
Here, brother, great play. That's right.
Tyrese right here gets the ball. The guy you know wanted to get the ball, he takes it, he shoots it in a rhythm, fouled by Giannis in the three.
That was a great game. I'm sure people in Indiana, you know, saw that game, and it was like they were having fun.
So, you know, I'm up and down about the players and how they play. And that's because I'm critical because I expect greatness.
As a kid, I saw greatness. I was able to obtain greatness.
So as a fan, that's what I want to see. You know, I, I can remember going in the Chicago Bulls arena and seeing like, oh, this is how fucking champions play.

This is how fucking fans are supposed to treat you.

You know, I can remember playing on teams where I missed a shot and a million people boo.

Like Jordan missed a shot and it's like, man, can I get some of this love?

And then, you know, one guy said, yeah, you can get some of that love when you start fucking winning.

I got to start winning. All right, I got you.
Do you think that the modern greatness, though, because it looks different than the greatness of the past, is something that is going to be tough for the greatest big man of all time to buy in on whether or not? Like Tyrese Halliburton, obviously. Go ahead.
My mother said a very simple term. They're not like you.
So sometimes I have to get out of my ways. But one way I will not get out of them is the formula.
I know to be a great big man, you got to average over 28 points. You got to average over 10 to 12 rebounds.
I know that. I will not change that.
How you get to 28. It's okay.
Like last night my girlfriend goes Oh

20 points and I didn't smile. He's like we're not having like no bro Anybody can get 20 like I expect He's had 22 assist though I don't care.

No, no.

That's part of the formula.

He did triple-double.

He's islanded a fucking triple-double.

Yeah, that's what I heard.

You said, I don't care.

He can get more than that.

It's like, God damn. I remember one time I had 50 points and I missed like two or three goals.
And I came over and everybody was, oh, I'm looking at a great game. And I'm looking at my father and he's like, we should have had 60.
I was like, huh? He was like, what the fuck you mean, huh? 50 plus plus with 62, motherfucker? That's a little bit. Yes, sir.
That's awesome. Always wanting more and expecting more, especially from our best in the world is awesome.
You guys, though, you guys are like a team in the NBA. I think as regular fans, you count all the teams that are in the NBA.
Well, most of them, at least I haven't seen a lot of them play a single game, but most of them play. And then you guys inside the NBA are a team, like a representative of the league.
You guys should be incredibly pumped about that. And obviously Charles Barkley took a shot at big dome, Kendrick Perkins and the ESPN and everything like that.
And it was a magical moment, I think, for TV.

And obviously that's going to happen.

You guys are coming over to ESPN next year?

Do I have that understood?

And when that happens, what changes for you or what changes for the show?

The term coming to ESPN is correct.

I know they're leasing our show.

Licensing.

They're licensing you guys.

Yes, they're licensing.

So I don't know the legal ramifications.

I don't want to say the wrong thing here,

but it's definitely good for TV.

And one thing about us being athletes,

I think you can say whatever you want

as long as you stay respectfully.

You know, I don't have a problem

with people saying certain things

and criticizing me.

It's part of the job.

You know, before I get upset,

I always say to myself,

if there's some proof inside the criticism,

you just got to take it. This is the

nature of my business. Like, I remember

one time I asked a person, say, hey,

I'm not

talking about when we come

to great plays of all time. They say, because

we couldn't go to you in the fourth quarter.

You missed a lot of people. Now, there's truth in that that.
Can't fucking get mad, so I have to accept it. Yeah, I would have gotten mad, though, if I was you.
I know, but the title that I do own, I am the most dominant, well, one of the most dominant big men in history. And, you know, I'm fine.
So, you know, the thing with Kendrick and Charles, that's the same thing we were doing on the court. So, you know, as long as those guys keep it WWE, you know i'm i'm i'm fine so you know the thing with kendrick and charles that's the same thing we were doing the court so you know as long as those guys keep it wwe you know you got charles talking about i'll walk through a graveyard with a whistle and you got kendrick talking about the 509 y'all ain't gonna fight if you're all gonna fight i'm gonna be the fucking promoter and we're gonna do it on fucking may 19.
if not if not you talk we talking let's just keep the shit going. Just keep going.
All the smoke, I believe, is what Charles said. I want all the smoke whenever he started the entire thing.
It was wonderful. That's why I think everybody loves your show.
Now, let's talk about some of the teams this year, more specifically, one of the teams that you mentioned out of the West. Ty, has a question for you.
Yeah, Shaq, you mentioned OKC earlier, and there's been kind of a narrative going around today, actually. I saw it on Twitter that, hey, people in the NBA, they're not necessarily afraid of OKC, or they don't respect them.
When you look at them, they maybe have the MVP this year. Do you think they're a team that can actually win a title this year, or do you think they're still, because they're so young, a couple years out? I hate using this word, but if they continue to play well and if this guy continues to shine like he's shining, they definitely have a chance.
I've always been an advocate of the others. So Jay Will's going to have to play.
All the guards are going to have to play. The big guys, Hardenstein, all those guys are going to have to play well.
I think they can get it done, but they have to get it done. You know, the reason why they're not getting respect because, and listen, it happens to a lot of people.
When you have bigger names and premier players, they're always going to get the first right to refuse it. Like LeBron's still here, so he's first.
And then you've got Boston, they're the champs, they're second. And then you've got, you know, Luka going to the Lakers.
Like, he's third. So, and, you know, Oklahoma City is fairly a very small market.
You know, they're playing well, but they still have to get it done. But the fact that teams don't fear them means they're going to have to do things 100% correctly at least four out of seven games.
Well, is it last year SGA really came into the lexicon of the conversation, I think, and then this year he's just continued to go. Are they young? What is the OKC model for those that don't? Are they young and they've kind of developed? Or are they free agent? And what do you think is the best in the NBA for team building, Shaq? First of all, Pat Matthewkite, H.
Smith. What the fuck is the lexicon? Don't be throwing those fucking big lexicon.
I'm bad, right?

Hey, that was pretty fucking good, brother.

My diction.

My diction.

Yeah, my diction's pretty solid.

Yeah, yeah.

No, in the zeitgeist.

SGA came into the zeitgeist, you know.

You know, I think they can get it done.

You know, I always tell people that the most valuable lesson I learned was in my last year in Orlando when we beat the Bulls the year before and came back to slip us. As I'm walking off the court, Michael Jordan says, before you succeed, you must first learn to fail.
I'm like, yeah, whatever. But then when I got home, I was like, what the fuck did he say? Like, before you succeed, you must first learn to fail.
So that angered me so i always had to play so you know hopefully that that that tough loss they had last year angered them and it looked like it's angry because they're playing well so hopefully they learn from that and can move on but you know joker's gonna have something to say lakers gonna have something to say golden state can get in they're gonna have something to say it's On that note, star power throughout the West Coast is very real. D-Butt has a question for you.
Speaking of Golden State, obviously Steph got a running mate now with Jimmy Butler, and they've been kind of hit the ground running since he came over there. A lot of people talk about you.
You don't give certain players their flowers, and we talked about shooting too many threes and all these things. Steph Curry completely changed the game.
I've been an advocate of him being in that GOAT conversation because of his impact on the game, what he's done. First unanimous MVP, four chips in the Bron era.
I saw you put him in that GOAT conversation too. That means much more when it's coming from G14, classified, big diesel.
Why did you say that? What do you think about Steph actually being in that GOAT conversation? if you're gonna have a conversation Won't have a real conversation. Don't just put who you want to put in.
We're gonna have a national Worldwide conversation who the goat is. I want all the recipients.
That's all. For example My guy's always gonna be Mike Before Mike, it was dr.
J. But now we got Mike.
I played with a guy that was a fucking killer. He helped me get three.
I don't have a problem saying that. I know I was the final MVP three times in a row, but without him, I said, I'm going to get three.
You got to put his name. Then that's fucking LeBron.
Now there's a guy that is so fucking good, every team plays like his team in the last five, six years. And there's never been a shooter like him.
And he's winning the championship. How come his name's not in the conversation? Listen, we live in a world with eight billion people.
You're going to fucking pick who you want. I don't have a problem with you picking any of those names.
But, you know, we all talk about who the greatest is. I want to hear everybody in the conversation.
Like, we're going to talk about this on TV. Don't just talk about your two people.
Like, you know. And then from a big man to say, what about fucking Greenville, dude, Jabbar? Yeah.
Yeah. A lot of what? Yeah.
I mean, like, we're going to have this conversation and put out tweets and put out fucking polls and put out Instagram and put all of the recipients and then you fucking pick. I don't really care who you pick.
Jordan is my guy. I don't care about anything else.
Jordan is my guy. That's my pick.
And whoever don't like it, go to the store and get some shakalicious companies. Rip Rip my face apart and chew me.
Well, I think if I was you and I went into Chicago and I saw Michael Jordan miss some shots and get clapped, I'd probably think this is the greatest guy of all time as well. Everybody has different experiences.
Steph Curry, though, you talk about changing basketball as a whole globally. I mean, you've got seven-footers now.
Wemby coming in from France. It's like three, three, three, three, three.
Every level. Yeah, every level.
LA Fitness. I think, and I think, and I don't say this disrespectfully, I think because he's not an exciting finisher, people kind of look.
Yeah, the no look is kind of the only thing he's got. You're talking about not.
Yeah, no, imagine if he had fucking tremendous finishing power then there would be no right now he's just a shooter like you know all the other guys can shoot no i'm talking about no not dunk on i'm talking about go through the land and just like yeah yeah like that imagine that so i think know, because he doesn't really finish like that, people overlook him, but I'm not overlooking. Yeah, well, we appreciate you doing that, especially with the platform you have and who you are.
Last question. Obviously, we know you're very busy.
Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Shaq, obviously a huge game tonight, Thunder Celtics.
How do you feel about that game? And then, you know, people are always saying, you know, this might be a finals preview. And you mentioned, you know, you know all the guys that you know Shea would have to go through in the west how much of a difference is you know regular season ball to playoff basketball like what is that level that everyone else goes to as the rounds progress I'm going to answer the first part of your question I started a new show, I don't watch that shit when I'm not working.

Is that a sign?

I got shit to do.

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

Go to dinner, go on a fucking hot date

or watch the fucking thunder in the Boston.

Rich and I can go out on a hot date

for a thousand bucket dollars.

To answer your other question, you know, what I learned from the great Phil Jackson is you pace yourself. If you have championship aspirations, you beat the team that you're supposed to beat, you stay dominant at home, and you stay above 500 in a row.
So where are they playing at? Boston. Okay, so Boston being the championship team, they know they got to put this team away, So I expect Boston to win tonight.
However, OKC wants to be fucking great. So they know in order to be the champion, you have to go to the champs.
So if I'm playing the champs, I'm letting them know that if we see you in the finals, it's 40 I'm giving you now, next time it's going to be fucking 50. So I hope it's a good game and good luck to all the fans watching because I won't be fucking watching.
Okay. Hey, we'll send you an update.
We'll send you an update. We're going to have some beat boxes tonight.
The Shaquille flavor, the Shaq flavor is obviously incredible. That tastes way too good to be 11.1% alcohol.
It is 11.1%. I want to say I know we're having fun, but all the people that drinking the V-Bops you know better.
Don't fucking drink and drive.

Drink responsibly. Amen.

Especially Uber, Lyft, everything that's capable

nowadays. There's no reason to get

behind a wheel. We appreciate you Shaq.

Keep killing it. Thank you.

Thank you AJSexyFace.com

Thank you Shaq.

Appreciate you.

All right.

Yeah Shaq! A bunch of websites. Yeah AJ Hawk.
He you. All right.
Ladies and gentlemen, Shaq. Yeah, Shaq.
Shaq started a bunch of websites. Yeah, A.J.
Hawk. He does.
He has so many websites, doesn't he? Now I know why you got the first cut, A.J. Yeah, it makes more sense.
Yeah. For Shaq.
Yeah, it was for Shaq. Just real quick, you wouldn't be able to stop him.
You know that. Shaq.
Yeah, I'd say so. I'd say that's right.
I would not be able to stop anything.

You know that.

Just so I know.

Thanks for reminding me.

In the paint?

On the block?

Foxy.

Yeah, of course.

No, no, no.

That's what he's talking about.

No.

Different way.

Most dominant.

Exactly.

Exactly.

The most dominant.

Oh, no. Oh, yeah.
International ball is never going to work for Shat. No.
The most dominant. Oh, no.

Oh, yeah, Shaq wouldn't.

International ball is never going to work for Shaq.

No, not with Shaq.

Well, we need one because he's an international man.

Shaq!

He boxed.

Boom!

Yeah, that was good.

You know, we can't call you a great small time because we didn't give you the ball in four

court because you're going to make free throw.

He had to be so pissed when he heard that.

Oh, yeah.

How come I'm never in a conversation about Gray's World?

I thought I'd just fucking win.

That's all I did.

Can we give you the ball in fourth?

Yeah.

You couldn't make free throws.

Hack a shack.

You ever heard of it?

It's because of you.

Change the game?

All right.

I guess there was a little truth in that.

Fuck off.

Good point.

Yeah, but to him, shooting a free throw is like us

using a ping pong ball to shoot a free throw, I feel like. Yeah.
Yeah. Lethal shooter.
That'd be tough. That's like a little pop a shot.
Yeah. I'm not great with those little balls.
I don't know how people actually shoot them like a basketball. No backboard.
Yeah, you just gotta find the spot on the backboard and just try to replicate. It's impossible.
It's tough. Definitely what I do.
Yeah. I mean, I am an off-the-backboard guy.
I'll even underhand that thing. Oh, yeah.
But there's people you'll see that are actually shooting. Shooting full jumpers.
And I'm like, how are you? I don't know how you're doing. I do that.
You just have to be very weak. Low muscle tone.
Stuff like that. Have you heard anything about the Pittsburgh suits? No.
Damn. I did house suit.
When does it have to happen? When's the latest we're going to hear it? If it doesn't happen today, I'm out. If it doesn't happen today, I'm out on them.
You can tell them that, too. I don't know what.
Eric. I guess Shefty is pissed off that it hasn't happened yet.
Join the club, pal. Here we go.
Yahoo Sports, Charles Robinson. Yahoo Sports still exists.
Goat. Charles Robinson still exists.
Absolutely. Charles Robinson, friend of the program.
The Falcons are expected to keep quarterback Kirk Cousins through Sunday's deadline and pay him $10 million that he's due. There's another $10 million guaranteed that's due by March 17th or 16th or something like that.
Staying, dude. He's staying.
I was looking at their roster just to see because it piqued my interest. They don't have another quarterback besides him and Pennix.
If they were to cut him and let him go, they'd be in a real situation, and who perfect to kind of deal? Because we all know Kirk. He's a great guy.
He's going to help Michael Pennix, and if Michael Pennix is on a rookie deal, they probably don't mind paying Kirk that money. So the only way that you potentially do that is if Kirk forces his way out, which also doesn't seem like a guy who would do that, but we'll see.
Does he have the no trade clause so he can kind of pick where he goes or no? Is that somebody else? Not sure. But we do know Penix loves him.
Penix talked about him last year, about how he looked up to him and everything. Yeah, and I think Kirk loves Penix.
I think is the way he talks about it. So, you know, maybe Kirk gets to the point where he's like, all right, this is my career now.
He does have a no trade clause. He's got family down there too.
Yeah, his wife. His wife's family is from there.
Yeah. He's making a ton of money doing nothing.
Sucks. It does suck.
Doesn't feel that way. But, yeah, he knows where he's at.
But to accept the fact, to accept the role of, hey, I'm a backup now, that's got to be tough. Yeah, I agree.
But that is a conversation that a lot of quarterbacks have to have. And I only know that because Matt Hasselbeck came to be the backup for Andrew Luck, and he was a starter the year before.
And I had a chance to chat with him about how he had to, like, actually, like, talk to his family and be like, if I take this, it's like me admitting, like, my starting days are kind of over. Like, now I'm just, like, the veteran backup.
And I'm not saying Kirk Cousins is going to have to do that, but that is a part of a career that people can get to if they want to or they can bow out of. To your point forgot completely about how great he was on tv oh yeah scott van pellet's mic muted couldn't talk anymore on set and kirk just took over the show and just started like directing and started like talking and got a promo and asked a question then scott gets a microphone back they're back he was great on television i mean and he said sometimes you know my son asks about Patrick Mahomes, and I tell him it's hard that we don't even play the same sport.
You know, we're playing like the self-deprecating humor from Kirk Cousins. He's obviously a nerd.
Like, we all very much understand that. He understands that as well.
He has a great TV gig. Oh, yeah.
Son of a pastor. We learned that, too, during COVID.
Command and audience. Yes, we did.
Great perspective, too, because he came. Oh, yeah.
Way here. We learned that, too, during COVID.

Command and audience. Yes, we did.
Great perspective,

too, because he came, got drafted,

you know, what, third round? Third, fourth

round? Came in, obviously, as a backup. Same

draft as RG3, and then he was

at the point where he was one of the highest paid quarterbacks

in the league, and now been a backup. And then

he played in these offenses in KOC.

Coming from that McVay tree,

he'll be able to talk about these quarterbacks and these

offenses for the next 10, 15, 20

years. So, I mean, Kirk

probably won't be starting this year, probably.

But he's got a great future ahead

of him. I love Kirk.
I love Kirk

Cousins. I really do.

Big fan. Every time I talk to him, I'm like, I love

this guy. Nerd.
Another guy

from the quarterback series. But understands it.

Like you said, very self-facing. Yeah, love him.
Alright, let's get the hell out of here. Big one tomorrow.
Huge. Huge.
Because it's day one of the new league year. Yeah, that's right.
And it's also ticket release day for Big Night Oh yeah. I don't know how this is going to do.
I think there's a chance. I think it'll be alright.
I think it'll be okay. Legitimately, I don't know.
There's a chance because I think it's like 10,000 tickets, 11,000. I don't know the exact number because we're blacking out some of the sections because the way it's going to be set up, obviously, for giveaways and stuff.
It's a fully immersive show. I will say there's a lot happening.
The giveaways in the performances, we'll say, are obviously the key parts of it. So setting up the arena and the seating is rather important.
I think it's going to be like $11,000, $10,000. And we said no ticket will be more than $100, the base price of the ticket.
So I got a call this morning from... Fees.
Yeah, they were like, hey, there's... So we saw in your video, you said that there's no ticket will be worth more than $100.
The base ticket price will be less than $100. But after the fees, it will go over 100 miles an hour or $100.
I'm like, I feel okay. I feel like I told the truth.
We listed... Now, these fees are crazy, though.
Oh, yeah, they are. But it's different's different if you were you know if tickets were seven hundred dollars you know the fees on top of that push it well over a thousand like a hundred it's still it's still manageable it's like sales tax twenty dollar tickets will be available i don't know how long those will be available uh i think there's like a couple thousand of those and then ninety five dollars will be the most expensive ticket that will be out there there's a 70 ticket i think that has the most and it is that it's either 70 or 60 i forget what it is it's one of those in there that has the most available but i'm very excited for it it's going to be a uh i think it's gonna be a fucking amazing show like literally every day that passes and i'm a a pretty negative person.
Okay, I call our show terrible. I mean, I say our show stinks or whatever.
Normally, I think everything's going to not be great. Not be good enough for people's attention.
You know? Hey, people are spending their attention with us. People are spending their time with us.
We got to make it good. Sorry, our show stinks.
It's literally my thought. And there's mornings where I come in here where I'm just standing in the shower just like, what the fuck? We are going to disrespect so many people today with what our show is about to be.
I am so sorry about how bad it is. So I normally feel that way about everything.
I normally think, like, everything's going to be crap. We are lucky that if anybody watches anything, and if the next day they decide to still be fans of us, we're in a good spot.
That is legitimately my feeling towards things. This one, it feels good.
I don't know why. It feels good.
Oh, yeah. And I think it's because of the amount of talent that are going to be on this show.
It's like a – it's going to be a cool night. I think it's going to be a big night.
I think it's going to be a cool night. I think it's going to be a really cool night.
And obviously, giving over a million bucks in the arena will be a lot of fun. Changing some lives will be a lot of fun.
And the people that are going to show up, the guests, I think people are going to be like, how the fuck did Billy Gardell? I did this. No doubt.
How the fuck did this guy put this thing together? Billy Gardell has not been reached out to yet. You're right, though is a uh oh show is show is fluid show is that come on i'm just i'm just one of you don't do that don't do what you said pittsburgh don't do what you just said don't do what you just said sorry i'm not from this part well you never seen mike and molly he's a national what about guy invented ozempic well okay i know exempt you know the commercial then he was doing that Yeah, high-kone drill.
Mm invented Ozempic. Well.
Okay, I know Ozempic. You know the commercial then? He was fucking doing that knee-hine-kone drill.
He was doing high knees with the- Sucking down a dog. Grass cutter.
I mean, Billy. Hot dog.
Billy is front. Excuse me.
No. That's Billy Gardel.
Boom. The one I grew up with.
That's some DK Harbor. The one I grew up with left.
The one that is now right. That is Billy Gardel.
Right there. I know that.
Macho man. Yeah.
Kind of looks like Ellen. I have not reached out to Billy Gardel.
People said I look like Ellen the other day. Really? Yeah, when I had my glasses on.
I had a thing going on with my eye. So I put the glasses on, you know, to cover it up because I didn't know what was going on.
That just disappeared. I'm not going to get that checked.
I'm just going to keep it moving. Smart.
Good morning. Don't Google it either.
Hey, I'm not. Don't do it.
I have no idea. I'm just like, all right, something's happened with my eye.
I don't like it. Okay, I'm going to put these glasses on to try to hide it a little bit.
Okay, tomorrow, if the same thing, we're doing the same goddamn thing. Yeah.
And I woke up the next day, didn't have it. I'm like, sweet, no more glasses.
Good to go. What happened? Didn't even, I asked that like one time.
I was like, it feels like that was something though. And it's like, don't, don't, you don't have time.
Yeah, you got to get your eyeball removed. You don't have time.
You don't have time to think about that. Yeah, don't think, just move, move, move.
So shouts of my eye. I don't know what it was.
Good work. Way to figure it out, dude.
Did I? I think it is actually my dominant eye too left eye dominant right hand guy so you know i as a growing up shooter right you know rifle right right spot with two eyes then lock in with one eye and then it turns out that you do this game or the the thumb game on which eyes well i'm left eye dominant this entire time so i should have been yeah or just would you rather be born blind or turn blind when you were 30 born born blind oh yeah i guess i wonder how they if someone's born blind how do they see things in their like how do they picture the world audio yeah i know they are like in their brain do they have visions of something it's like you don't have color you don't have i'm just saying that what do they yeah like how do they say a goal post and you've never seen a goal post what are they how do they envision that did i um did i tell you guys about my trip to starby's the other day? Did I tell you about this? On the show? You did. You glued your head to the table? Nice.
Good call. The box? At Schultz's place? Or where? No, I didn't protest.
The protest. No, I didn't protest.
Oh, no, maybe it wasn't on the show. I went in there and got an Americana.
Okay, we're doing some furniture shopping next door. And, boy, I found out me not in there much better.
I'm kind of bored. Sam was dialed in though.
You know, every piece, the whole thing, having a conversation. I love it.
She's great at it. I'm very appreciative of what she's done for our homes, everything.
You know, she's great at it. But for me, I get bored pretty quickly.
I'm either laying on a couch or I'm going and looking at something we're never going to buy. That's what I'm I was like alright I'm gonna go get a Starbucks I'm gonna go get a Starbucks so I go into Starbucks and the lady that's working in Starbucks she has this thing drilled into her head with like an air pod on the end of it and it's on her left side and she's cash register is to I'm this way so she's like here so i see it you know she was incredibly polite kind nice jovial and i just can't help myself i'm like excuse me i obviously see uh what's behind your ear there what is that so she lost hearing in her left ear because of a virus like 15 or 20 years ago or something like that and they had this device that they drilled into like a bone cochlear implant a cochlear implant yeah boom and then she had this thing on it and i was like how's it work she's like good yeah just sends it over i'm like genius isn't technology isn't technology just like amazing i told her and she's like yeah i love i have to change it out every two years you know there's like an update on it or whatever and once you get past just like looking at something sticking out of somebody's it's small but it's definitely sticking out of a head like at my life obviously and i've said i can hear now on this side of my face in my head and yada yada and i said technology is the greatest she said the best thing that i saw guy came in here with a seeing cane uh uh like a cane and he got his phone out and she was like do you want me to tell you any stuff that we have like two cookies or whatever and he goes no no i'm good he had a phone that was directly attached to i don't know something he had like a bluetooth maybe implant or something and he was just reading everything that was in front of him so like it was like chocolate chip cookie there's three of them there's a blueberry muffin there's two of them so he was like literally getting a play-by-play from his phone into his ear about what was happening in front of him and uh it's like could you imagine not having that like if you're a blind person not having that it's like so they've uh i think technology has tried its best what was the thing elon was creating neural yeah he's trying to fix that yeah that's that's wild it'll get there i hope so i hope we get to a point where technology is able to take care of that because your question there she lost hearing 15 years ago 20 years ago in that year but i couldn't imagine just losing it completely you know at a certain age or losing vision a certain age i guess you have memories which is good but then are you automatically reminded you can't see them anymore you know every single time so that's a tough that's a tough thing i'm happy technology is taking care of that but that thing in that lady's head was really cool like you know because you can hear that's why the headphones that don't go in the ear that just kind of sit on your jawbone they kind of rattle through your bones and you can kind of hear it it's like it's impressive what we're able to accomplish but that lady had to get that drilled in there i think i was looking at it worth it it sounds like it hurt so bad yeah i think so she says it shoots over to the other ear so you can hear it in there whatever the case i'm not tough enough to get that thing drilled in there i hope i don't lose my vision i got lasik and there's some things where i'm doing this now and i'm like oh i'm gonna I'm going to have to get LASIK again, and I'm not going to do it.
They fucking taped her eyes open. It's a lot easier now, isn't it? They fucking taped her eyes open, tape her eyes open, then a laser comes in.
Have you done it? No, but I watched my wife get it done like 15 years ago. That's when I got it done.
How long does it last, typically? What do you mean? 20, 30 years, I thought. Yeah, 15, 20, 30, whatever it is.
Yeah, but I got it done mid-off season. I got it done.
But they tape your fucking eye open, and a laser comes in, you don't see anything. You lose complete vision.
It's black. That's why I'll never do it.
That just scares the shit out of me. That's really scary.
They do it one at a time. So then they're like, let us know whenever you see the blinking light again, and then you don't see it.
And they they're like let us know whenever you see the blinking light again and then you don't see it and they're like let us know when you see the blinking light and after the fourth time they ask you like am i supposed to oh shit is this over or whatever and then all of a sudden you see the and it's like oh yeah i could see it they're like okay good and then you do the cleanup and then that whole thing and then they do the next time they're like all right we're gonna do the other right it's like well let us know whenever you see the blinking light let us know whenever you see the blinking light i gotta say the am i blind in one iron and then the light comes back it's like thank god next morning though 2010 all world definitely worth it definitely worth it i mean you could go blind i guess but definitely worth it would you just get prescription glasses though i had to wear prescription glasses because i had contacts in for like 10 years straight never took them out because you already wear the glasses sometimes like it those are blue light glasses i know but that's what i'm saying okay like that that whole thing obviously doesn't bother you but when you wear blue light glasses you know like here is good but all the way out here yeah yeah bad the bad like you you if these are actual prescription glasses you can't see shit like out here is where it sucks right you know so like i had bad eyes bad bad bad eyes i had contacts in though i never took out it's amazing what the world looks like whenever you can actually see for sure it is pretty crazy what the world looks like foxy and lasik was able to do that for me yeah foxy needs it yeah i've looked into it i didn't know that i didn't have to miss a day of work to get this done i could do it friday after the show and then be good to go so i'm actually going to do this yeah and getting it done the latest you possibly can on a day is the right play yeah and every single person i've talked to that has gotten it done is that it's the greatest thing they've done in their life next morning you're seeing 2010 yeah literally the next morning because if you get the last one you're not allowed to drive home or whatever you get the last one done you just take an ambient immediately afterwards and you just sleep you wake up at like fucking 3 a.m or whatever yeah because your sleep schedule is kind of fucked but whenever you wake up you have to wear glasses i think the next day they got those wraparound boys that you got to wear the solar eclipse Virtual reality passes, yeah. Yeah, those ones you got to wear, but you can just see everything.
So I think the way I got it done, I think I got a 4.30 or 5 o'clock appointment, had it done, took an Ambien, woke up like 3 a.m., and I was like, holy fuck, this is a pretty nice house I'm living in. That's what I'm going to do.
I went into the indoor facility like two days later for the colts and i'm like wow i haven't been able to see the roof because all the lights you know yeah exactly because all the lights are blurry so they just cover up you know because whenever you lights pop up we've got bad eyes it's just a big but so like the roof of the the colts facilities the first time i saw it i'm like this is a pretty nice fucking place or place or whatever. They're like, yeah, we didn't change it.
I'm like, yeah, I know, but this is my first time seeing it. Well, what have you been playing with? I'm like, yeah, not good.
I've been pretty blind. Someone told me the procedure took three minutes total and you were done and out.
Yeah, but it feels like an hour. Definitely.
When there's no vision in your eye, because they go one eye at the time. So when you can't see anything in your right eye, that's sketchy.
That's crazy. Your whole job is.
Yeah, and holding. Yeah, and so what happened was I lost my right contact mid-game.
Didn't have any backup contacts because I've been wearing these contacts for fucking 10 years, five years or whatever. So I was, I literally had no, and this is, yeah.
And I got Adam Vinatieri here. So it's like, listen, I can fuck up for me here, but this guy is the fucking other eye, buddy.
Put it down. Bingo.
That's a, well, that's kind of what I did. I kind of did a, now that I know that my left eye dominant, I did do like a one eye thing and the snap came at me for a punt and it was a, I'm like, I need to get these eyes fixed.
And then I had to go i didn't even have more contacts but i would recommend it i would recommend it i'm gonna get it done for sure hopefully soon it's sketchy though i know this would yeah i don't know taping your eye open is a wild scene when did they first start doing lasik like who was volunteering to be like the test dummies so when they when they like cats ellen keller would have got it hopefully uh i don't know how that works that how she got blind. But I don't know.
I don't think that's true. I don't know how Helen learned, you know? I don't know how Helen Keller learned.
Is any of that real? There's some Helen Keller conspiracy theories. I don't believe in them, but there are some.
1989 was the first ever LASIK. Adam Schefter has reported it is now official that the jets are releasing aaron rogers what okay big news the jets will take on 49 million in dead cap money on uh releasing rogers he's being designated as a post june one cup meaning they'll carry his 21 million dollar cap hip until june 1st when it drops to 14 million saving 7 million but they then will absorb a 35 million dollar okay a Okay.
A lot of mumbo-jumbo. A lot of mumbo-jumbo.
But, yes, the Jets are officially releasing Aaron Rodgers. He will be a free agent.
And now we sit and wait. I saw Schefter was on a podcast, and he said he's tired of waiting to Aaron Rodgers.
Bruce sent that into the group chat. I thought it was actual breaking news because Aaron's picture popped up with Schefter's name.
Bruce, I appreciate you, buddy. Thank you for keeping us updated back there.
That's on me. Could be a giant.
Yeah, could be. Maybe.
If he wants to, but why would he? Good point. Doesn't want to move.
Everybody hates moving. God would hate it by 20 mil.
He could wake up tomorrow and see the oceans blue and be like, Giants. That's not how it works.
You keep doing shit like that. You're going to end up with fucking Mason Rudolph as your quarterback.
If that's how time as a flat circle works, then that's where we'll be. Okay.
Okay. You're listening to Coach Diggs too much.
You need to stop reading Coach Diggs. I refuse to talk to him about any of it.
You need to stop reading Coach Diggs' text. He says he's not watching his Steelers.
They bring an air rod. He's our old guys.
I heard. I mean, I know it probably won't happen, but if Coach Diggs came on the show one time, I'd be very happy.
We can definitely make that happen. Certainly if we're giving him front row 50-yard line.
He needs to be coaching though. Yeah.
No. We know.
It's the only gear he has.

Yeah, that's a Tuesday.

We play bocce.

We play bocce with him.

We should go do a show live from his next bocce match.

When do you guys take on the Pepperones?

When do you guys take on the Pepperones?

As long as Tim's coming on the show, too.

Let's do it.

No, no, no.

Tim is just holding down a forward here.

I don't think he'll be at the Pepperones match, either.

So, I'll be a whole different animal. I was live at a bocce match.
Ladies and gentlemen, tonight down a forward here. I don't think he'll be at the Pepperones match either, so I'll be a whole different animal.

I was live at a bocce match.

Ladies and gentlemen, tonight's a big one.

Cool.

Better than tire wrestling.

That was ESPN News.

Speaking of, we have pitched a couple specials to be on ESPN2.

I hope that happens.

We are dabbling into the creating new content world, you know?

So we would like a couple specials to be

allowed on espn2 okay and uh we'll see how those are received yeah i'm excited i'm excited for us to explore the space oh yeah might as well of counter programming i'm excited for us to kind of explore that entire thing i'm very very pumped up about that but we will we certainly will uh All right, take it tomorrow noon.

Okay, noon.

I am scared that because the price of these things only gonna be able to buy four max okay i'm gonna be able to buy four max smart it's wednesday april 9th is the show so i know that's tough for some people i saw some messages from people saying i work on thursday i thought you're for the working man all right right. All right.
I work on Thursday too, bub.

Okay. How about, uh, but with that being

said, the reason why it's Wednesday is so that

we can add on to

the Axe kind of tour

because everybody kind of works Thursday through Saturday.

And if you want to think about the people that

are doing those types of gigs, those are the

people that'll be there on a Wednesday night.

So any of those other days would have been tough to kind of get

in there, especially in the spring whenever a lot

of people are on the move. So I apologize

for being on Wednesday night, but also has to be on a wednesday night and uh it'll be fun i'm it's gonna be a good night oh yeah it's gonna be a good show people are gonna say why didn't we why didn't why isn't this show happening before i think it's gonna go great all right be a friend tell a friend something nice it might change your life're interesting together. Team on me, team on three.
Hey, D-Bush, great work this week. Hey, you too, bro.
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