PMS 2.0 1300 - Franchise Tag Deadline Day, Kirk Herbstreit, Shams Charania, Adam Schefter, Dan Orlovsky, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this Franchise Tag Deadline Tuesday, March 4th, 2025. This program starts now.
Sports are happening all around us, and the NFL has a massive deadline today at four o'clock. We'll have Adam Schefter join us in the next hour to get the up-to-date information around the league on who's getting franchise tagged.

What player has played through their contract, thought they were going to hit a massive payday for longevity and maybe long-term security for their family, and is actually getting told by their team, you ain't going nowhere. You're with us for another year, brother.
That's how this is going to go. Now, the franchise tags have already been out this particular cycle.
T. Higgins gets it for the second straight year, which means there was a bump in pay of what the normal wide receiver franchise tag is by 25%, I do believe, because he was already franchise tagged once.
This is his second time in a row getting franchise tagged. This is the last time they can franchise tag him.
Back in the day, they used to be able to franchise tag people one time, two times, three times. I think even four times.
Julius Peppers got a franchise tag three times adam venateri got franchise tag three different times they've made a rule that you can only do it twice t higgins is in the second year of that uh osa oh diggy zua oh so franchise tagged by the dallas cowboys dog as a defensive tackle excited to see how that works out and then trey smith obviouslyeman for the Chiefs. They have an offensive line question.
Got to keep one of their best guys in there, a pillar of everything. And then it has come out through various reports and insiders.
Sam Darnold, Javon Holland, and Chris Godwin are not expected to be tagged. So congrats to those three gentlemen hitting the open market.
Hope it pays them mightily. And who else will get tagged around the NFL? We'll keep track of all that today.
We'll talk to Schefter in the second hour. We'll also talk to Shamsherani in the second hour.
Shamsherani, a senior insider for the NBA for ESPN. Obviously coming on to talk about Kyrie Irving.
For his ACL last night and again. Shot his free throws, though.
Tears falling from his eye. Berries, two free throws.
And those will be the last two shots of the year for he, as this will do it for Kyrie Irving's 2025 season. Down there in Dallas, obviously, he picked up a brand-new teammate after losing Luka and Anthony Davis.
Anthony Davis got hurt in his debut game for the Mavs after going crazy. He did have a good start.
Kyrie Irving now out for the rest of the year, and everybody's's looking at the GM named Nico who got together with the conditioning staff and the nutritionist and some other suits and somehow convinced themselves that they were more important than Luka Doncic to the Dallas Mavericks shipped him out of town and now the Dallas Mavericks are without Kyrie which is a bummer for all of us because watching Kyrie do his shit is worth a watch all the time but Anthony Davis Davis not playing. Kyrie now out.
And the Mavs fans, mass exodus. Third quarter.
This isn't even fourth quarter. This is a third quarter.
Remember, there was protests about Luka being sent out of town. He was the face of that franchise.
This Nico guy, formerly of Nike, I think was the one that negotiated the deal with Anthony Davis and with Nike. I think he's also the one that called Steph Curry Stephen, maybe? I forget.
He messed up the entire pitch for Steph Curry. We've learned a lot about this guy because, boy, Mavericks fans hate this guy.
And a lot of people around the NBA go, this guy might be the dumbest guy in the history. I think some people said he actually might have a fetish for being humiliated.
That is why he made this decision. I mean, that's how far it went with the general manager for the Dallas Mavericks.
Now there's conspiracy theories in abundance about the future of this Mavericks team. And I guess you have to have that convo.
Mark Cuban sold that team, obviously, last year. We were wondering what the deal was.
Then we heard maybe they were trying to get a casino in town. Now the casino hasn't been cleared.
Are they trying to lose down there in Dallas? Let's go to the toxic table at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. It's getting loud on the internet about them tanking and trying to get kicked out of Dallas.
This is all alleged, but this is a very loud talking point that we are not making up. This is just actually happening in the real world right now.
Yeah, it's all alleged, but the woman that bought the team from Mark Cuban, I believe, made a majority of her money, family money, from casinos. And the first thing that she said basically was, okay, we're going to put a casino, hotel, the entire thing, a Patriots place, which we see with the NFL, you know, Jerry World, obviously very profitable.
You go, you stay for an entire weekend, a week. You got the hotel right next to the place.
It's all right there next to the arena. It's all the money, you know, in one place.
We see the top two teams in the NFL when it comes to revenue per home game. The Cowboys make 70-plus mil per home game.
The Patriots make 50-plus mil per home game because they own all the stuff around the stadium. That's where everyone is.
That's where everyone spends their time. So one of the first things allegedly she wanted to do was put a casino there.
Obviously, hey, that to happen oh okay i'm not allowed to do that i'm going to move the team to vegas because that's where you know that allegedly allegedly that's where well not allegedly her stuff is you know there in vegas but allegedly that was what the threat was allegedly response no you can't move the team from dallas dallas is a staple the mavericks in te The Mavericks in Texas, they've had success recently, both going to the finals, and then also Dirk Nowitzki beating the Heedles not too recently. So that entire thing.
And then allegedly after that entire, hey, no, you can't do this. You can't move the team.
You guys have a face of the NBA. Well, no, we don't.
No, we don't. We got Rovey.
No, we don't. He's actually done.
We got an eyebrow in the NBA, but he's not going to play a lot of games and don't think of the way it's going to go. And he has a chance.
We're not giving up. No, no, no.
We got Kyrie, Anthony Davis, this is for the future of the team. But you can see how the people who are conspiring these ideas about what's going on with the Mavs because the decisions are being looked at as puzzling by everybody.
Basketball

brains, other people from outside.

These dudes,

they're going to be making decisions to try to get the hell out of town,

try to make their fans hate them, and I'll tell you what, it worked.

Their fans are bailing on third

quarter. Get us the hell out of here.

Not all bad, though. They are

also raising ticket prices, I think,

8-10% next year.

That is a classic one-two.

Okay, we don't have any of your favorite players, and you're going to have

to pay more money. You don't want to come, right? We can't move tickets here anymore.
That is a wild move, if that's the case. What a heel villain move by a new owner to come in.
Right underneath Mark Cuban's nose, because he's still a minority owner, and he still has those tickets, and he's still at the games, and he's looking around like, I'm just confused with everybody else.

Feels like everything we maybe built here is kind of

crumbling right in front of our eyes. Obviously,

Kyrie's injury doesn't help with that convo.

We are sending nothing but T's and P's

to Kyrie. That sucks, dude.
We're

so sorry. And the Mavs fans,

Luka's doing it in LA.

Just go with him. Luka is

absolutely doing it in

Los Angeles and

Lakers are now the number two seed in the West and

LeBron James is playing like he's 35

Thank you. Just go with him.
Luka is absolutely doing it in Los Angeles. And the Lakers are now the number two seed in the West.
And LeBron James is playing like he's 35 years old again somehow or 32 years old, whatever the case is, even though he's 40-plus. Luka feels right at home.
And all of L.A. has embraced Luka.
And in this time with the fires and the devastation, if the Lakers are going to run, you're talking about an entire city kind of coming behind it. The NBA does have some interesting storylines brewing right now.
One of them is Tyrese Halliburton's the greatest of all time. So, let's never forget that with the Indiana Pacers.
That's nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler.
He agrees. That's that.
Thank you very much. I didn't know that was news, Matt.
His numbers since turnovers have been historic. So, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, Wes Trueblood here, Wesley, full name. He said Tyrese Halliburton's one of the greatest point guards you've ever seen.
I clicked on Wesley's, he is a Pacers fan. Basketball follower, basketball lover, Pacers fan.
Since 2000, a player recording at least 60 assists and 10 or a few turnovers in a six-game stretch has happened 196 times. Here's a list of the most points scored during those stretches.
Oh, Tyrese has all of them. Tyrese is the guy.
You want a facilitator on the court? Tyrese is humble enough to do that. do that you want a little flash he'll certainly put it through his legs he's not scared to do a full court pass if he has to and then he'll even do one of these while the ball's flying through the air Steph Curry has the no look three-point shot where he puts it up and then he turns around and walks away Tyrese will do that with full court pass and dude's got range he's pulling up from the logo at this point Tyrese is ready to lead this team to a deep, deep, deep run into the playoffs.
So good luck to everybody on the Eastern Conference. That includes the Celtics and the Cavaliers.
And do the Knicks even have a team? Nope. What happened with them? They were the team last year, remember? No, no.
Yeah, they're very good. They're 14-20.
Yeah, but they can't beat anyone with a winning, right? Okay, so it's Celtics, Cavs, Knicks, Pacers. Don't sleep on the Pistons, boys.
They're hot right now. Bucks are also, I believe the Bucks are four, then the Pacers, then the Pistons.
Anyways, we'll talk to Shams about all this in the next hour. Excited to hear his thoughts on what's going on down there in Dallas.
Because we're just reading the tea leaves on the internet, like we do with everything. We feel like we're actually more prepared than everybody else that comes on TV with a teleprompter and has somebody else type it up and tell them what to say.

So that's neither here nor there.

Basketball is cooking.

Baseball is cooking.

Remember, we got bumped yesterday for spring training.

And it was a great game.

Was it?

6-6 in the ninth inning.

I want to say the O's may have walked off the Red Sox in the bottom of the ninth.

It was an unbelievable game.

It was an unbelievable game.

Ended in a tie, actually.

6-6.

There you go.

Baseball, baby.

Baseball's got a lot of soccer.

I didn't know that.

I mean, it makes sense.

Thank you. walked off the Red Sox and went to the bottom of the ninth.
It was an unbelievable game. It was an unbelievable game.
Ended in a tie, actually, 6-6.

There you go.

Baseball, baby!

Baseball's got a lot of soccer.

I didn't know that.

I mean, it makes sense.

Spring training.

Spring training.

NHL's happening, obviously,

stadium series this weekend.

94,730 people packed the horseshoe in Columbus, Ohio,

to watch the Blue Jackets

and the Red Wings do their thing.

So we'll talk to Kirk Herbstreet,

who was there with Peter

and family this weekend

in about five, ten minutes or so to get his thoughts on not only that but everything peter hold it down brother you know what i'm impressed by peter he didn't see a puck and just like yeah yeah like uh you know hotel transylvania sure do you know this movie no i know i just haven't seen it adam say the movie it is i'm telling you that's sam man is it a cartoon it's cartoon it's animated just haven't seen it. Adam Sandler movie.
It is. I'm telling you.
That's Sam, man. Is it a cartoon? It's a cartoon.
It's animated. He's Dracula.
Sure. Obviously, he has a family.
His daughter is a monster. She falls in love.
Marries a regular human. Regular human and her have a kid, obviously.
Now, Dracula is trying to make kid into a monster. I've watched four of them, brother.
Hotel Transylvania 1. Hotel Transylvania 2 might be the best one Just because it's after there And then 3 and 4 also Very good, Adam Sandler as Dracula Just So good I don't even know how to I don't know how I got into talking about Hotel Transylvania Strictly because I went into a trance right there That movie might be the best movie that adam sandler has ever made i've watched it 400 times 400 times anyways they get into a scene though where they're out in public or out in the woods because uh dracula's trying to find the kids go out and see they're out in the real world not in uh the forest that they live in with the monsters and uh they have a wolf with them one of the monsters is a big bad wolf you know so they have the monster frankenstein hangs out with them uh invisible man hangs out with them wolf is one of them big bad wolf and the big bad wolf has to go out there and like scare the shit out of somebody and somebody throws a frisbee and this wolf just gets distracted and sprints against frisbee come back in the car has nothing for the people adam sandler has the line like you're the big bad like it is a great moment peter not chasing those pucks is maybe the most impressive thing that i've seen out of Peter because he could see them all night, and Peter is a very athletic, very excitable dog from what I've learned, and great pooch.
This thing is strapping lead. Connor obviously has his own detail on him, but Peter was at the game.
The NHL loved Peter being at the game. Herbie was at the game.
We'll talk to him about that. We'll also talk to him about what's going on right now during the drafts here.
There's Jorge up in the front there. R1, obviously.
Big Jake. Then you got Zach there.
Then you got Chase here, Michigan man, in enemy territory. Jorge there is a dentist.
And this kid, I have no idea who it is. I assume he's a great kid.
Good smile on this kid. Where's Peter? Can we get Peter in the photo? Peter's on the here's on the ice i think chasing a puck i mean there is a chance they had a great family outing over there 94 000 people at a hockey game is cool yeah that is a very cool thing excited to hear his thoughts on it all and obviously there was a lot of ohio state um references in the game it was a helmet there was a buckeye the whole thing i'm excited to hear what herbie thinks and then we'll talk about what's going on in the NFL, which leads to one half of the hammer.
Ta-da! Cowboys AP Tone. Tone, franchise tag deadline today, 4 o'clock.
Who should we keep an eye out? What teams are making moves? Who is really active right now around the NFL? Yeah, so one of the teams that we were, I was looking at specifically, was the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Chris Godwin. Now they said they're not going to tag him,

but they are still going to try to get a deal done with him.

Obviously, the Chiefs have tagged their offensive line,

and they're talking about potentially getting a deal done there.

It's a lot of these things where, like, is Sam Darnold going to get tagged?

Because, you know, we talked about it a few weeks ago.

We were like, that would make the most sense for the Vikings

because you tag Sam Darnold, you get him in a good number. If J.J.
McCarthy is not ready yet, that happens. And you could still trade Sam Darnold.
If someone wants him bad enough, you tag him and trade him in a situation like that. Those are really the teams that are mostly dealing with the tag deadline right now.
Okay, so let's talk about a player that was already tagged and now has negotiated a long-term deal. Osa.
Oh, Diggie Zuasa has agreed on a four-year $80 million deal with $58 million guaranteed, $20 million signing bonus. Congrats to Osa.
I believe Osa will be joining our show in the next few days to chit-chat about all this. We do not know him yet.
We cannot wait to meet him, but we do know he's a wealthy man. Congrats to Osa.
Obviously, you can Google everything about him. This guy guy as a d lineman for the dallas cowboys has been a game record doesn't get a lot of conversation about him because michael parsons is obviously over there dallas cowboys crumble down the stretch they don't play good zach prescott gets a lot of chatter jerry jones gets a lot of conversation what the hell is going on in that building what are the cowboys and obviously the commanders have had this incredible year the philadelphia eagles are supers.
So, whenever we talk about the Dallas Cowboys, there's a lot of negative. There's not a lot of shit to get to.
This Osa fella never chatted about. Obviously, the Dallas Cowboys appreciate his contributions to the Cowboys.
$80 million deal for Osa. What a game record, D-Budge.
This is how the free agency bag started off a couple years ago. Started with a bunch of interior guys, interior offensive linemen, interior defensive lin linemen you got to be able to stop the run and run the ball so paying taking care of one of your guys before the market even starts like to see it in dallas yeah and that can happen with t higgins t higgins can also get traded anybody that gets franchise tagged today is still yep very much wide this is not a final four o'clock today the four o'clock deadline is on the teams to decide whether or not they want to have control over the next year of said player.
Now, that money's guaranteed, so you have to put that money up in the franchise tag. And obviously, you have to account for it.
Some teams have numerous guys. Like, there's a lot of players on some teams that are ready to leave, ready to go.
There's some teams right now that are dealing with a lot of players wanting to be traded. There's some teams right now that are looking to trade players because they have to

pay some players. That leads to the San Francisco

49ers. They traded Debo to

the Washington Commanders. I think everybody loves that.

We'll talk to Dan Orlovsky in the third hour today.

I heard him chatting about how much he loves this move

for the Commanders and for Debo.

But they're like, Ayuk is potentially available.

We're in a very busy time

in the NFL right now. Yeah, and it's

awesome just with all the fodder around it. I remember when the offseason started and Tone wrote on his whiteboard, the offseason is the best because there's so many possibilities.
T. Higgins getting tagged at first.
Of course, devastated Patriots fan. Want T.
Higgins more than anybody in free agency right now. But then I decided, you know what, I'm only going to listen to what Adam Schefter said.
And Adam Schefter said last week, hey, this is going to happen with T. Higgins getting franchise tagged, and then teams can come get him.
So as a Patriots fan, still very, very excited. But it's just sweet now that we can start playing the place game, especially with Sam Darnold.
Sam Darnold going to be the QB of the future for the Raiders, and is Tom Brady going to get in Sam Darnold's pocket and basically tell him exactly where to throw the ball every single game day with those cool meetings he would do on Saturdays with Bill Belichick is he gonna now do that with Sam Darnold like the the possibilities are endless it really does feel like the NFL is still all the way at the forefront of talking you bring up Sam Darnold he's a massive piece of the conversation it's almost like the Darnold domino now is the next one that is going to fall in the quarterback conversation. Now, allegedly that has been reported that the Giants are in on Aaron Rodgers.
Are they also in on Sam Darnold? Is Sam Darnold open to going back to the Minnesota Vikings because how great they were all season until the final two games? Now, will he take a shorter kind of deal or a big-time money deal somewhere else? I mean, there is a lot of convo around Sam Darn right now because we're chit-chatting about him potentially getting $50 million a year last year with how he was playing. And he earned it.
We love when guys have good years on contract years. He came in to kind of be that British quarterback for J.J.
and play out of his mind. We're in draft season now, combine season, and when Sam Darnold was coming out, he was kind of like the belt of the ball when it came to draft.
A lot of people thought he was going to be the number one pick in that draft. Ended up going number three.
Didn't start off how he wanted it to. And then you get with KOC, you get in this offense, you get the guy we had on yesterday, Justin Jefferson.
And we kind of saw the best of what we can expect from this guy. Still in the prime of his career, very, very young.
And I think he will enter that $50 million club, along another guy we were talking about uh when the Debo Samuel deal went through uh here's the guys who's making 50 plus right now in the NFL and I would expect Sam Donald get up in that bunch if he can get like a nice three-year deal with after what he's done and then Brock Purdy out in San Fran we definitely expect him uh to crack this list you talk about getting rid of Debo Samuel obviously you're expecting that's going to be opening up some money on the books for San Fran, for Brock probably getting that maybe $55 million range up there between Jordan Love and Trevor Lawrence. You look at this graphic, and the number one conversation that has been around this number and how this percentage of a salary cap to one position has been you can't win a Super Bowl like that.
Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts did it.
Howie and the Philadelphia Eagles were able to figure out how to give a large percentage in proportion to every other position of the salary cap to a quarterback and still build the best roster in football. So just do what he does.
Mind everybody just do what Howie does. Because they draft very well.
No, yeah, just do what Howie does. Yeah, I mean, I suppose you could do that.
The Purdy thing will be interesting, though. That'll be very interesting.
We talked about it a little bit yesterday, but there's a chance, too. They could do the Kirk Cousins thing.
He could play for $5 million this year, whatever I think it was, like $5.1 million, and then franchise him two years in a row, and then over the course of three years, they end up paying him, what, like $97 million? He's not going to love that. His agent's not going to love that.
But if you're the Niners, that's a pretty good bargain for them as well. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who probably has a thought on all of this.
He's got a big old brain, doesn't he? Gage. He's got those baby blue eyes.
Oh, man. He's got skin like an armadillo.
Because he gets attacked a lot.

Needs it. Welcome to the club, brother.

I've been canceled three times since

coming back. Last week, Wednesday.

Isn't that crazy? Not even a full week.

Back in the Thunderdome, baby. Hey, welcome back.

I was having a time of my life on vacation.

This ain't bad, you know?

I'm a guy that loves working.

Loves being active. Start thinking about other things.

Big night out. Date will be released in the coming days.
And then tickets will go on sale shortly after. We are close to a big night out in Pittsburgh.
An unprecedented evening, I believe, is how people will describe it after it's done. Big laughs, big sing-alongs, massive giveaways, a couple million dollars worth.
Big night. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is the face of college football with both game day and the primetime game on ESPN, called the national championship, obviously, called the semifinals.
He's also the man who kicks off NFL weekends on Thursday night with Amazon Prime. Ladies and gentlemen, in front of the program, Peter's dad, Kirk Herbstreit.
dude life is good man how about you life good what are you getting what are you what are they coming after you for now after your vacation uh well we oh yeah yeah yeah yeah we alluded to the number one story in the world that i think a lot of these suits had no idea existed because they don't do research all day all night on the internet so then they try to kill us never said a name said allegedly even showed empathy because that is an incredibly sad sad sad situation but very real situation that was happening in the world in which we live and then obviously Canada booze our national anthem like I do what I gotta do you know and then all of a sudden that seems to be a fireball offense take this guy off all microphones uh because he he's proud to be an American. Yeah, so, you know, it's a good time.
Fireable. Get him off there.
This guy's going to put us into a permanent political problem. Shut up, dude.
You know, like this guy. This guy's the worst.
Anyways, nonetheless, it's great to be back. Love that we get to do this for a living.
Feels like we get treated the same as everybody else that has a microphone talks about sports it is an honor to do it uh with that being said draft season combine season franchise tag season what's the big conversation sam darn let's start there obviously you get a chance to watch him both through college you watch his nfl career go the way it goes you watch last year how it ends is a bummer because everybody was waiting for that to happen with sam darned seemingly even though their was 14-2, had a chance to be the number one seed in the NFC, had an offense that was dynamic all damn year. His last two games, he doesn't play his best football.
The Vikings don't play their best ball. And everybody says, that's who Sam Darnold is.
We go from him making $50 million a year in this world to what's this going to look like for Sam? What are your thoughts on Sam Darnold? And think about the rest of the quarterback market herbie well i think it starts with jj you know if jj mccarthy's not there then i think this is a totally different discussion and and i think when you have a year the way he enjoyed last year with koc who's has an offensive system that's very quarterback friendly um he was able to flourish not to mention obviously the ability that was around him but i think it you know you talk to koC who to me is one of the one of the great uh guys to talk to when it just comes and just talking ball with him i mean how much does he love jj mccarthy after the year that that sam just had in a in time right now where, let's face it,

if you don't have the guy, you have no shot at the postseason.

He's got a guy.

But I think it sounds like, based on if you're reading the tea leaves,

that they're going to go back to J.J. McCarthy because they had such big visions

of what he could become.

And it's incredible. But I think that tells you, if that's the route they go, how much confidence and where this offense potentially can go, maybe where the franchise can go with J.J.
McCarthy. So I think he's the wild card in all this.
If he's not there, I think it's a no-brainer. You re-sign Sam.
What do do we have about six or seven teams right now that desperately

need a quarterback pittsburgh giants raiders brands jets titans jets jets i mean would you

throw the saints in there i mean derrick car's got it another a few years but you know they're

going to eventually unless they think rattler's their guy um there are a bunch of teams out there

that could use sam darnold and and you know there's never been a knock on sam darnold's ability

I'm sorry. unless they think Rattler's their guy.
There are a bunch of teams out there that could use Sam Darnold. There's never been a knock on Sam Darnold's ability to throw a football, ever.
That's his physical skill set. That's what makes the timing of this conversation interesting.
A lot of people put so much into these workouts. Will Howard, it's like everything he did this year on the field, it's like he had a terrible workout.
He's trash. It's like, jeez.
It's amazing how we look at this position and we forget that it's the ability to process, it's the intangibles, the leadership, decision making. That is tenfold can you hit an outcut to a receiver you've never thrown to at the combine.
And yet we put so much into what you do at the combine and what you do at a workout versus what you do when you wear shoulder pads and a helmet and your ability to be able to read the coverage and make good decisions. So Darnold was able to show that.
Up to that point, he's not been consistent in that skill set as being able to really break down a defense and have quick decisions and know where the ball needs to go and put it out there accurately. And he put that on display, and he's going to be the beneficiary of that.
So that's exciting. That's great for him.
And now we get a look at all these rookies. And most of these quarterbacks, wouldn't you say, if they were coming out last year? Oh, yeah.
I don't know if they're up there at one and two. Yeah, that's been the narrative going into the combine.
And then coming out, I don't think anybody has really changed anything. Cam Ward, obviously a superstar talent, great leader down there in Miami.
I think a lot of people are hoping.

Shador Sanders obviously is held in high regard.

A lot of people talking a lot of things.

There are some reports coming out that some people in meetings didn't feel like Shador was as invested or something like that.

Shador also just always has like a – Shador is always like this, it feels like.

He's been in the spotlight since he's, what, junior high probably.

So he has probably built up a callous to having him over emotional they probably i think they probably know what's happening already it feels like the sanders is might already have a heads up on what's taking place with him if not he feels comfortable enough whenever he gets in a building to go but yes to your point last year's draft class was absurd and they ended up performing in an absurd fashion which leads to jj uh back to Back to the Minnesota Vikings with J.J. McCarthy.
We've always said it feels like the coach of the year, Kevin O'Connell, can drop a play for if you can throw a football. It feels like you can be a quarterback for that particular team.
J.J., we know, can spin it. We know J.J.
is an incredible leader. We know J.J.
is beloved by his teammates, but we have no idea if J.J. can read NFL defenses.
We have no idea what this entire thing is. So in my eyes, they'd probably want to vet for another year, you know, just to see if J.J.
is ready or if he's a guy because I don't know how much he was in the building. But is it going to be a guy that's worth as much as Sam Darnold? I'm not 100% sure.
And what is Sam Darnold for? Those are all fair thoughts.

I just give a lot of credit to KOC's ability to evaluate quarterbacks and ability to, if he's willing to let go of Sam Darnold, if in fact that's the direction they go. Think about what Kirk Cousins did at his age in that offense.
And now picture Kirk Cousins at 23 or 24 with mobility. Like, you know, we get around these guys in college.
Got it. What J.J.
McCarthy did for Michigan to get them over the hump in 21. Now, he was the quarterback, and it was great defense, and a lot of great players on that team, but he gets them over the hump where they beat Ohio State in 21, gets them to the playoff where they get embarrassed by Georgia, come back, or I'm sorry, that year they ended up losing to TCU in a game they should have won.
You guys remember that one. Yeah, that TCU gets embarrassed.
I mean, think of that three-year run beat ohio state lose to georgia beat ohio state get to the playoff probably should have beat tcu should have been in the national championship come back the very next year and get it all done that's on his back that that's him doing that and i i just i you never know with quarterbacks but watching these guys and watching the intangibles putting koC with jj mccarthy and the talent on that roster to me the vikings go to another level with jj mccarthy and what i think he can do in that all get better with jj saying hey what are we talking about also save a lot of money to build up that roster because you've already spent money on Justin Jefferson, another JJ who's obviously phenomenal. He was on our show yesterday.
Love that man. Great.
I would like to let Kwasi, if you would like to trade him to Indy, I don't know if I have the power to make those decisions. How are things going in Indy right now with you and the Colts and the boys? I shook Chris Ballard's hand, talked to Chris Ballard down at the combine.
I talked to Shane Stiggen. How did that go? I just told him I thought his locker room was crap.
I didn't think that was his fault. I didn't think it was his fault.
I just think the players that are in that locker room, he probably had faith, would be professionals. And a lot of them aren't.
So I don't put that on him, but kind of, though. You know, like, that is the – I feel like the players should show up for your team a lot more than they do, especially with everything we were hearing.
Well, when you played – Heard a lot. Heard a lot.
Heard a lot. Heard a lot about – not just – the Colts obviously heard a lot of stuff.
It's like, this is not professional football. If those guys – all those guys came back, they had their reunion if that group type of guy if they witnessed what was happening allegedly in this locker room that you're saying yeah how would that be handled would that be handled by tony would that be handled by the players no yeah that's that's players that's that is like a lot of this shit is locker room stuff like anytime you hear coaches go, the team needs to be led by the locker room.

Like the locker room needs to lead.

It's because like the coach can say something obviously,

but if the coach can't reach the person in the first meeting,

like here's the expectations.

It's like the players have to hold each other accountable is my thoughts,

which is why I said the way I said,

the things I was saying about the Colts is like,

Hey,

this is on your locker room that this stuff is happening.

Like,

and I don't know if they took that.

You're probably getting a phone call from the Indianapolis Colts locker room right now. Don't listen to him don't listen to him yeah he's not he's lying he's lying he's lying but it's like the things we've heard it's like it feels like there has to be some sort of leadership in our locker room going hey that ain't how we roll around here and that's how it would have been like when i got in trouble obviously everybody was happy that was okay but immediately i got a bunch of texts from all the ogs that are like, hey, you're blowing it, brother.
Like this is not, this is a, this is your life. This is like everything, but also this is not how we operate over here.
Like you need to clean your shit up. You know, like it was like a, like a stern talking to almost.
But isn't that the case in team sports? Like the elite teams have what you're describing. Yes.
And we have enough talent in Indianapolis. Like the talent is in abundance.
We've paid so many many people there's a lot of experience it's like but in a locker room just letting people get away with like that is well who are the guys potentially on that roster that can provide that well you can just look at the people that have been paid second contracts almost completely through it they've been here since the beginning it's like but one of them for three weeks was pat at the beginning of this entire thing and it's like that sets a standard. And it's like, it just continues to go.
But with that being said, everything can change. Boys, they can change.
You guys still go to the games, right? You guys dialed in next period. Okay, yeah, Herbie.
All right, let's move along. I don't know about that.
Let's move along. We heard it's not just the Colts, by the way, also at the Combine.
Heard that it is a, I don't want to see an epidemic, but there's a lot of teams that are operating in ways that you don't think professional athletes should be operating. If you have a good culture right now, I think that is not as rare.
That's a great thing. Instead of us complaining, because it's in college football, obviously, too, with NIO on the portal.
So instead of saying, if I'm a franchise, if I'm a GM or I'm an owner, instead of complaining about it. Wow.
Got it figured out. Do a thumbs up.
Do a thumbs up. Do a thumbs up.
Do a thumbs up. Double thumbs up.
Boom, boom, boom. Boom, boom, boom., you've been dancing over there.
You and AI kind of tag team in this interview. I appreciate that.
Bro, why did the fireworks go off? Because we're celebrating you making a great point about team culture, it sounded like, coming out of this combine. I'm saying if you're an owner or a GM, and you're dealing with these players that are coming in, it's a very different deal than you're used to.
To me, isn't that... Look at Ohio State, or look at Notre Dame, or look at these teams that are trying to figure it out in college.
Can't you separate yourself now by finding those guys? They're out there. So if I'm a GM, I'm not just going to Indy and I'm clicking to 40, and I'm just, a 40-inch vertical.
This is great. Aren't you trying to get to know these guys and trying to build a locker room instead of just worrying about having an all-star team with a bunch of physical freaks? I think it's more of an opportunity to separate yourself by finding the right guy to kind of nip in the bud what you're describing sounds like is going on in Indianapolis right now.
Yeah, because everybody's going to make mistakes, obviously. That happens.
These people are growing with money. They're in the spotlight.
But it's like getting everybody to be going in the same direction and caring about a team and just feeling as if you care. At least portray that you care that you are winning.
Look at Justin Jefferson, who you talked to yesterday. It was a great interview.
Thank you. I've watched him since this guy was like a zero-star, one-star.
He had older brothers that went to LSU. His brother was a quarterback, and he wasn't highly touted.
And he really developed and made himself with that competitive spirit that he has, the player that he became at LSU with Jamar on one side, him on the other. I mean, it was ridiculous in 19 with Burrow throwing to him.
And if you watch him at times at LSU, you could see, if you didn't know him, his wiring and you didn't meet him, if he didn't get the ball early in a game, you could see, hey, is this guy selfish? Is he worried about himself? But once you get to know him and you watch him and listen to him talking yesterday this guy's competitive spirit is unique and he's dialed in does he get frustrated at times sure but he's dialed in on the game plan he knows what they're trying to do and when it doesn't happen he's not saying give me the damn ball like you know we're winning but i'm not getting my catches this guy dialed in on winning the game and what it takes to win the game. Let's execute.
Let's execute. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. I'm guessing if things aren't going right because they're losing the game, he's on the sideline talking to guys about what we need to do to win and compete.
See, that's gold right now to a franchise. You just got to find them.
You got to find those dudes that are willing to bring more than just their physical ability. When we talked to Harbaugh and Hortiz, it was like, that's all we're looking for, basically.
Talked to McVay yesterday, what are you looking for? Dogs. That's all we're looking for.
You look at the Kansas City Chiefs, I assume they're going to bring in dogs. People that buy in.
Bean at the Beals, all he's looking for, people that buy into the team and be dogs. It's like, the teams who are good, no.
You know, it seems like the teams. In Philadelphia Eagles, I mean, they have literally all they care about is Detroit Lions.
Bingo. All these teams that are good seemingly have a very similar thing happening.
And all the other teams have something else going on. Maybe...
Vrabes? Ravens. Vrabes will bring it to New England.
Okay, on that note, Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Herbie.
Vrabel, obviously getting hired to New England, basically the biggest hire, the first hire of the entire cycle. How do you feel about that? And then some of the other guys as well, Glenn to the Jets, Pete Carroll to the Raiders.
Do you feel as though kind of that tough culture is coming back a little bit? And are you expecting the Patriots to win 14, 15 games like I am, or where are you at with them and Drake May? Well, I think we all know Braves. We all know his wiring.
I always wondered, even when he was at Tennessee, is he going to end up back in New England at some point and replace Bill Belichick? I think we all kind of thought as he became more and more successful in Tennessee that that was going to be potentially something that could happen down the road. It's a natural fit.
I'm sure, I haven't spoken to him lately, but I bet you, like any of us, because of the experience that he had in Tennessee, the way it went down, he had a chance to kind of regroup in Cleveland, kind of on the back burner, and a chance to really grow and continue to become a guy that can relate to what we're talking about. If anybody understands what we're talking about, it's Mike Vrabel.
I mean, Vrabel's got it as a player. He had that, his experience in college, and of course in the NFL when he got eventually to New England.
And he understands the value in that, and he's very, very good at being able to relate to these guys still, see him put the pads on and hit dudes. I try not to be super biased towards Vrabel because I'm a huge fan of his.
I've known him since he was 18 years old. I have a ton of faith that who knows how many games are going to win.
Yeah, we're talking he's packing both sides and the top, and then doing this. And then he'll race you, and he'll beat you, too.
And his wife, Jen, will whip your ass, too. So, I mean, the whole deal.
Such an Ohio family, isn't it? This bravo family. Now New England.
They are taking Ohio. Now they're're New England family.
I'm excited to watch Rames up there. He was already making the rounds.
There was a reading day, a national reading day. He went to a local school and was reading.
Big applause. Handshake.
Obviously, he loves the community. He's probably done a lot with that community in the past.
Remember whenever he went into the Ring of Honor, the Hall of Famer, whatever it is, he said, do not take this for granted how special. All they say is that was basically, allegedly, the get this guy out of our building, says the Tennessee Titans people.
So I think he's eager to get back there, eager to turn the franchise back around, eager to make him a contender again. And I think he loves the community.
I think he loves the team. I think he loves everything about people.
And remember, you don't want to be the guy that has to be the guy that steps in after bill belichick you want to be the guy that replaced the guy yeah that's always a good place that's a good place yeah i think the timing of this is outstanding and new england obviously has to be kind of they got to be thrilled with you know bringing one of the boys back oh yeah uh to bring him back to the glory years yeah he's actually trying to find a vrabel quote to put on the other bicep at this point. Yeah, that might even be a tricep.
I mean, it was just shocking. As soon as Mayo gets fired immediately after that game, the first thought is, holy shit, they're really going to bring Vrabel back.
And then for it to happen the way it does it. Yeah, it was talked about for two, three weeks there leading into the end of the season.
Like, yo, Vrabel's coming back. Vrabel's coming back.
Vrabel's coming back. By the way, Aaron Glenn, I've just spent a lot of time with him doing these Lions games and get some one-on-one time with him.
And then hearing the story about how he – hey, I'm a former player. Like, a lot of these guys now, they're former players.
They want to step in and be like Deion or like Eddie George. They want to become the head coach.
Aaron Glenn intentionally went basically to the bottom and worked himself all the way up and learned every aspect of the franchise to one day become a qualified, in his mind, a qualified head coach. I just really respect a phenomenal player.
Maybe could have had, hey, you know who I am? I'm a pro bowler. Let me start as a secondary coach.
But he kind of worked his way up, paid his dues, was a big part of that Detroit ability to turn that franchise around, witnessed it. I'm excited to see what he can do.
He's going to a black hole as far as trying to win. That was my next question.
You think the Jets organization can win is what it sounds like. Everything you're saying with Aaron Glenn, everything he did in Detroit, it's like,

okay, so wearing that jersey, you

can win. If you let him,

if you let him

bring in what he learned,

and the ownership is

hands-off, and you're just going to let

this guy do his thing with

the new front office, then yeah, I think

they can. Well, I do wonder

what Brick's going to learn from Aaron Glenn. Could you talk about

like this, getting a chance

to experience everything? Yeah, well, you're talking about Brick learn or teach up AG on what it's like to be a Jet. Aaron, final level, get your masters from Brick.
I understand that Brick could probably share some information with Aaron Glenn, the new head coach. Brick Johnson's who we're talking about.
Woody Johnson's son who gave out game balls after the game. New York Times reported that.

Not us.

We're just telling you what was being said.

We have not got that confirmed from asking in the locker room.

Strictly because we don't want to have the embarrassment of your organization to get the actual story of it.

So, with that being said, Woody has allegedly come out and said,

I have to learn to be a better owner as well.

Brick wasn't around the locker room, I guess, the last few weeks.

So, maybe the Jets are making a turn. Good't around the locker room, I guess, the last few weeks.
So maybe

the Jets are making a turn. Good luck to the Jets.

Good luck to the Jets.

Good luck to them. Because we're riding with you.

The last one is

Petey Carroll coming back. How great is that?

I mean... That's wonderful.

Honestly. He got kicked out of Seattle,

Herbie. He got kicked out.
He said he went in there

and fought for his job. Remember, he said,

four hours or something, I competed for my

job. Yeah, but, you know, maybe

it's so hard to sustain

Thank you. Seattle, Herbie, he got kicked out.
He said he went in there and fought for his job. Remember, he said, like, four hours or something, I competed for my job.
Yeah, but, you know, maybe it's so hard to sustain, you know, I don't know how many years. How many years was he there? 10, 12? I can't remember how many years.
14, 15. But, you know, you get to that 10-year mark, it's really hard to keep it going.
So maybe Seattle just felt no matter how much they loved him, they needed to start fresh. I'm just glad to see.
I thought maybe that was it for him. I'm glad to see he still has that fire.
He's coming back, hires Chip Kelly as the OC. We all know about Max and what he brings on the defensive side.
This is, I think, a franchise all of us want to kind of see get back to being the kind of franchise franchise that they can be and hopefully Pete Carroll can do it big problem is obviously who's quarterback yeah

Tom Brady and ownership and obviously Tom Brady very hands-on from what we're hearing Tom Brady

is very very very very very very active we're talking about everyday phone calls long conversations

would you expect anything less no I mean if he's going to put his money up there so I thought I

did expect less actually because like minority owners in the NFL you don't really hear much from

Thank you. long conversations would you expect anything less no i mean if he's going to put his money up there so i thought i did expect less actually because like minority owners in the nfl you don't really hear much from minority owners in the nfl you only hear about whenever they become majority owners in other places and the reason why a lot of people become minority owners in teams is to prove the nfl that you're willing to get into their league we understand what it is and then hopefully you get an opportunity to become a majority owner somewhere else tap rose with the steelers harris with someone like there is a lot of this that takes place so you very rarely hear about minority getting their hands in the weeds he wants seven rings i mean and bring him in i agree see i ai agrees i does agree but i um i don't think i expected it because nobody's ever done it but then once you hear like hey tom brady's the one doing the interviews it's like that makes sense like if you have if you have the capability for tom brady to do the interviews you should do that hey tom brady is like day to day keep it up on everything it's like that makes sense if you have tom brady doing all those things so if you have a quarterback you would assume tom brady will help in the entire process we shall help every aspect of any franchise you know i mean let him in there and and how he works with pete is interesting right and and that whole dynamic chip kelly too the offense coordinator i mean there's there's a lot and they're saying russell wilson maybe justin fields maybe get a veteran quarterback in there that you can pay not as much as everybody else then maybe you still draft Shador who obviously very tight with Tom Brady and Mark Davis and they're in the top 10 so I mean there's a lot on the table for the Las Vegas Raiders but Tom Brady being hands-on to your point with seven rings good news for the Raiders hopefully the same for the Jets speaking of the Jets they have a quarterback conversation happening as well go ahead Ty yeah, Herbie, the first thing the Jets did was basically anyone who had any ties to Aaron Rodgers, they said, get the hell out of here.
We're done. We're not doing this again.
This is a great experience. No ultimatum, though.
Yeah, no ultimatum, obviously. You can do what you want.
You're just not going to fucking do it here. So, you know, get out of town.
But we've heard now in the last couple weeks that the Giants, after they lost out on Matthew Stafford, they're full bore on Wanton Rodgers. It seems like that's kind of the only option if he does want to play right away, barring what might happen elsewhere.
We just saw the Raiders aren't necessarily interested in him. In your opinion, what do you think Rodgers is going to do this next year? I mean, you guys would know better than anybody anybody based on you guys being around him as much as you are i i gotta believe that now that he's fully healthy his mind he can still execute and make plays and and lead a team to victories and eventually get him into the postseason if he feels that way um you gotta think we just went over the list of teams that out there.
Don't you think somebody is willing to take a chance and give him a shot to prove what he can be? At this stage, his career, after what happened with the injury and what happened last year with the Jets, we just couldn't get going. I think people that are evaluating it, they're evaluating it on how much of that falls on him, how much of that falls on the franchise as a whole.
But man, it's still Aaron Rodgers. And you watch quarterback play every week in this league, and you think a guy like Aaron Rodgers, what is he, 41 now? If he's healthy and he's 100% and he's all in, you've got to think somebody out there is going to be willing to give him a shot and show what he can do.

The Giants are already basically saying, allegedly, yeah,

that's a big decision whether or not he wants to come back and play

and sign up for it.

And maybe the last three games, four games where they were balling

and being everything that we all thought they were going to be

for their entirety at the Jets with that offense,

maybe that's enough for him to go out and say,

yeah, I could still do it if I had to, but I'm good. You know, I played great at the end.
I proved people I could still get back from an Achilles injury. We had some success.
But in my eyes, there's no way. What's your guys all? What's all your gut? What's your gut feel? Does he play next year? I think he plays next year, yeah.
Just strictly because any time this situation has arose, is that the proper word? Yeah. A rose such a clatter I believe is from the Santa Claus yeah it's when the reindeer are on the roof yeah right there where he comes down there you know anytime these situations have a rose in the past AJ Hawk who is very tight with Aaron goes like I don't know what what what else would yes aaron's gonna play football is what aj always says even though aaron has not told a.j and i think everybody that's around aaron assumes that like that decision could you know that could go very easily both ways you watch enigma and i think you know greeny has and the world has and you learn a lot about this man who i think has been misunderstood and misrepresented by a lot of people for a very long time.
I think he's a hippie who's super competitive and obviously goes about doing his business how he does it. Everything he does, though, the ayahuasca, the darkness retreat, that is for him to become a better football player.
He's trying to work on himself to become the best version of himself to become a better football player. And obviously a lot of ridicule comes to him about not being married, not a kids yada yada he's ball player this guy literally loves ball he's an old school football player still has the loose strap that he undoes every single time getting hurt and still playing is a big deal for him so like i think a lot of people don't really judge him by who he actually is they judge him by what they hear about him from other people who don't know him and with that being said he is one of the most competitive people on earth the reason why he loves the nfl is because it's an ability to scratch the competitive itch that he's always going to have for an entire life i assume and he won't say this and he obviously doesn't think this is the case but like when he gets into golf at some point when he retires he's going to get very very very good at golf he's going to get very locked in at golf.
Because right now he'll play twice a year, and he'll end up shooting 73, 74. Wow.
Like, he's going to be one of those guys who's all – he doesn't think this because he is a hippie, plays guitar, does the traveling, likes to do a lot of inner perspective searching and everything like that. That competitive drive that he has is going to – he's going to have to get into something.
And he knows if it's not football, deep down he knows if it's not football,

it's going to be something else.

So I think the ability to still play football at the level that he has with the bad taste in his mouth, with how the Jets went,

because I think he wanted to bring a parade to New York.

I think he was very – he took a lot of pride in being the one that was going to do it.

So I think he still has bad taste in his mouth.

I think he plays football again.

I don't know where the hell it's going to be.

The Giants allegedly –

Are you guys going to be allowed

to interview him if he doesn't play? I read

something you guys weren't allowed to...

That was part of the deal. What do you got there for me?

There's an ultimatum allegedly from Scooptown

that there was

an ultimatum made to him that if he wanted

to come back and play for the Jets, he's going to

have to stop doing our show. And once again,

it never ends. It just never ends.

And then the GM comes out, yeah, that's bullshit. We're moving on regardless.
It wasn't like he said we're not doing the show. So who knows? We're cool with whatever.
We've been very lucky that we've got a chance to chat with him. We all enjoy those weekly interviews.
Not everybody. Not everybody.
Not everybody enjoys it. I don't agree with his opinion.
I get him off a microphone. That is how some people operate.
You get some of that? I've gone on some rides. Some of these days the number two seed in the room getting heat.
I think Connor. Connor's pretty good.
I don't see any of it. I can't really read very well.
Yeah, so he just keeps it moving. It doesn't even matter.
You know, I think Connor probably going to get me. Other than that, it's just, you know, we're up here having a conversation, you know, based in reality.
Okay? With some jokes in between. We're just joking.
We're just, hey, and also informing. Yeah.
Which leads to this. Now, let's stick with the NFL.
Let's stick with the NFL before we move to other topics.

With that being said,

there is a man who hosts

everything DB,

good D,

bad D,

who has a question about

these prospects that you would

know more about than us.

Yes.

D-Butt, representing

Compton Country Club.

Yep.

Got to ask you,

because I'm sure you called

a bunch of these guys' game.

And every year,

I feel like it's a rookie DB corner

that hits the ground running. This past year, it was Quinlan Mitchell out in Philly, also Cooper Dezean in the slot.
Who this year do you think will be that guy? Because we had some great performances at the combine. Hairston, he flew out of Kentucky.
Barron, I feel like he tested much better than I thought he would. And he's played all over the defensive backfield.
Will Johnson, a phenomenal corner out of Michigan. Who's that corner, that DB

that you think will hit the ground running

and take the NFL by storm this year?

I think it's Jaday Barron. That'd be

my guy. Had a great combine.

Yeah, I

saw he ran well. He worked

out, which is fun to see these guys.

Some of these guys opt out

for obvious reasons. This guy decided to

go out and compete.

I covered this guy a lot.

Probably called over, I don't know, 11

Thank you. some of these guys opt out for obvious reasons this guy decided to go out and compete um i i just i covered this guy a lot probably called over i don't know 11 or 12 of his games and i i love to see a guy and you understand this better than anybody one one year he's out there playing playing that slot and playing it as well as anybody and when you say that to people who are fans when you play the slot it's not just okay he's on the inside i mean he's in run support he's blitzing he's playing space he's playing man i mean the versatility is off the charts with him and then you know the next year he comes back and he's on the outside and maybe you can explain in layman's terms, how hard that is at the elite college football and NFL level to have the

skills. next year he comes back and he's on the outside.
Maybe you can explain in layman's terms how hard that is

at the elite college football and NFL

level to have the skill set

to play both in and out.

He did it flawlessly.

He's got some great intangibles.

Great leader, captain.

Not only the numbers are going to jump

out, but he's played in a lot of

big games at the highest level.

Like I said, the versatility is what makes me think he's got a shot to really step in year one in the NFL and be turnkey yeah that's I mean that's really really really tough to do to go from that inside and go outside and he won not he didn't just go out there and excel he won the Thorpe Award this year but yeah so on the outside you have that sideline kind of as your friend but outside of that you're pretty much one-on-one in an island if you're any type of man-to-man situation and when you're in that inside you got space to your inside space to the outside got to communicate with your linebackers play the run game just completely uh different position i love this guy and everything he's done on the football field as well he kind of reminds me of like a like a malcolm jenkins he was a guy that was the top corner in my class when we came out but you didn't know if he going to play safety, if he was going to play in the slot. And once he got to the NFL, he pretty much did it all.
Won a couple of Super Bowls. You got to be physical too.
Had the intangibles as well. So I see a lot of similarities with Barron and Malcolm Jenkins.
Herbie, you know this. D-butt played all over the place, in the box, outside, in the back.
That's a mentality thing too. You got to commit to studying.
You got to commit got to commit to a lot of studying because you've got to know a lot of different jobs. And you've got to commit to a physicality that not everybody is able to do at that size.
I communicate, too. That's why what Cooper DeGene was able to do.
X and O's wise, he was in the slot corner. You've got to be able to communicate with the backers, with the safeties, with the corners, and play fast.
It's It's tough in there. Were they able to understand his language he was speaking out there? Yeah.
This guy seems to be speaking a different language. Yeah.
What's this guy? Hey, speak. He got it.
He got it. You know, he was locked in.
He was dialed in. Exciting whites are quite a duo over there.
Yeah. They might be the only ones left.
Yeah. In the secondary.
No, Riley. Other side of Pat.
You just look at Iowa. All you can handle, white guy through secondary.
Hold on, they got that white track guy too. He ran a 4-2 or something like that.
4-1. What was that? I don't remember.
I don't think he won a Big Ten championship. Kirk Ferentz saw him and said, get that guy off our field.
He's too explosive. You can't get that guy an end around? The guy's running a 4-1 on the fucking field? You guys can't get a first down.
Yeah, well, we put Cooper Gene on offense and he broke his fucking foot and missed the Big Ten championship, so we said enough of this shit. Alright, let's just run the ball up the middle three times and then punt.
I'll tell you, if he's out there, you had a real shot against Michigan that year. I think so.
I think so, sir. I think so.
This guy's now the father of a Michigan man. Never forget it.
He's got telling some respect. Last question here before our hardout from AP Tone.
Yeah, Herbie, six quarterbacks were drafted in the first round last year. I believe we know for sure two are going to be this year.
The question is, is there going to be a third? Do you have a third guy that you like the most? I mean, Jackson Dart threw well at the combine. Quinn threw well at the combine.
Brady Cook threw well. Tyler Shuck threw well at the combine.
Will did better. He got better.
Is there a guy you like third? What are you talking about? He didn't know those guys. Neither did the other guys.
Kirby? They're used to throwing the four nines. Jeez Louise.
I would probably give Jackson Dart the nod. He started his career at USC before he transferred over to Ole Miss.
I think he's got a presence. He's got an offense that I think that's the thing I really want to see with him is the ability to be able to show what he can do when it comes to what we talked about earlier with J.J.
McCarthy. Not just throwing a ball around, but being able to go to that next level with how sophisticated these NFL offenses are.
Being able to read coverage, being able to get the ball out, whether you're under center, whether you're in gun. And I think, you know, he obviously helped himself with what he did in this past week.
But I think his game film, like to be able to go up into the first round, they're going to really study every aspect of his game when it comes to can he be that franchise guy. And I think, you know, one thing about Ole Miss.
Dude, I didn't know he could scoot like that. I didn't know Jackson had scoot, scoot.
Dude, he's an athlete. He really, I mean, he can go.
He'll surprise you. You know, Tyler Shuck's the other one that a lot of people are fired up about.
And he's another guy whose sneaky athletic ability because of his size, you wouldn't think that. But he started at Oregon, had tremendous ability to create that Joe Moorhead offense.
So, yeah, he's another guy that I think will get up there and be evaluated. And Jeff Brom, we know what he can do with quarterbacks.
So it only benefited him from being at Louisville and throwing it around over there. Okay, before we get out of here, about 30 seconds, how awesome was that Stadium Series game for your Columbus Blue Jackets versus the Detroit Red Wings in front of 94,730 people and one dog? Well, first of all, meaningful games.
They played on Thursday night, two points on the line. Jackets got that one up in Detroit, came back home, 94,000, over 94,000.
I've been there hundreds of times. It was just surreal to see an ice rink in the middle of that stadium, to see the way the Blue Jackets fans, to me, a great fan base, come out and support this team.
This team hadn't been good for six or seven years, and they finally got a young nucleus through the draft. It's kind of starting to gel together at the right time.
They're kind of a dangerous team, and it's cool to see that many people come out and support them and them go out and get two more points, which are critical right now, chasing these wildcard spots. Congrats to your Blue Jackens being relevant again.
I didn't know if they were going to be able to fill up that stadium because of how bad they had been. That place filled up.
It looked wonderful. It was cold.
The ice was great. The game was magic.
Congrats to hockey, you know, from Canada.

Congrats to hockey.

That's a good thing out of Canada.

There we go.

Good job, man.

Good job.

Love hockey.

Love hockey.

Love Canadians.

Don't love the booing.

There you go.

Don't love the booing.

Ladies and gentlemen, you never boo this man, Kirk Herbstre.

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Currently on ESPN2, ESPN+, Disney+, TikTok Live, and youtube it is in a dream come true to be able to do this every single day a lot of great things get said about me and our program on a regular basis and those are fun to read as well you know you look into me and you say those people are right you're the worst person on earth but you get to have a dream job of talking about sports the talks tables here at boston connor and at ty schmidt con man franchise tag deadline today, 4 o'clock. This is going to clear the waters a little bit for free agency season where it is going to be a buzzsaw.
Yeah, a massive day. And obviously free agency officially starts in eight days next Wednesday, but really it starts in six days on Monday.
Some of the names on there are very interesting. We were just talking about this list.
We'll basically set the draft. We've been talking about the combine and everything, but the guys on this list will really kind of tell you what teams, especially at the top, are going to be aiming for.
I know for New England, a couple wide receivers up there will depend on who they want to get. We were also just mentioning some of these quarterbacks, and don't see him up there i believe he might be more of a trade candidate a guy like dan jones coming to indianapolis that would be something that i got my eye on when it comes to next week yeah just because it feels as though dan jones would thrive in a stiken led offense it feels like that would be a huge competition between dj and ar and that is what i'm kind of looking forward the really question came from nine-year nfl vet former indianapolis court everything db host darius jay brother what's the really what's the surprise all about i mean that's just i mean not everyone will listen he's just right there on your mind that he will be the guy that comes he's got strong legs he can run good yeah they are uh i have a question for you how many play Sam Darnold win last year? Because guess what? It's not as many as Dan Jones has in his bag.
Okay. Yeah.
So I'm just saying when we're looking at guys you want to win with, Dan Jones has that capability. He's tall.
He can run. He's smart.
Yeah. Smart.
Smart. He's very smart.
He's very tough. But even some of those names up there, I mean, look at the Chiefs.
The Chiefs have two of their wide receivers from this past year up there. And then, you know, Charverius Ward, D-Buck can probably speak more to it.
One of the best corners in the league. Yeah, him being a free agent is massive.
I feel like Hassan Redick's interesting because, will he play? You know, it's kind of a fun little game you can play during this. You can trade for him.
You can sign him. You better get him on that dodge line.
How about a guy who came, what, third for defense player of the year? Zach Bond? Eagles going to let him get to the free agency? That's one half of the hammer. Cowboys, AP tone.
Zach Bond, Darius Slay. Who else from the Philadelphia Eagles secondary? Bradbury? Bradbury, yep.
I believe it was released. I mean, there's a lot going on.
There's a lot of moving parts. There's a lot of money getting shifted.
Who will be the odd person out, odd man out of rosters? And who will sign these guys and change everything they have and maybe go on and reach the climax of Lombardi Mountain? Who's going to make a signing that's going to change a culture, change a franchise, change a city this offseason? It could be your team. And your team could also bring in a cancer that ruins your team.
Your team could waste too much money on a player

and end up going to absolute trash.

But on the flip side, you get a great deal on a prove-it deal.

And somebody comes in and really takes ownership of your team,

puts the team on their back, and changes everything in the locker room.

Maybe Dan Jones to the Colts is the right guy.

Maybe Dan Jones comes in and goes,

boys, I thought the Giants was terrible.

I thought the Vikings was good.

Let me tell you how things got to go.

This is how you got to operate. You got to be on time.
You You gotta show up to things. That's part of being a professional football player.
Because how you do anything is how you do everything. And how you guys have been doing a lot of things is not how any of us want to do anything.
Is Dan giving a speech? I can see him in black and gold. I can see him in black and gold.
There we go. Press one button.
Car automatic start. Staying too close.
Car alarm might bark. Daniel Jones going to Pittsburgh.
Yeah, I can see that. I literally can't say no to anybody right now.
Yeah, well, you guys have no quarterbacks. Joining us now is a man who might play quarterback this year.
He's a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner. We have no idea if he'd pass any of the drug tests.
Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawker.

Hawker, how do you feel, pal?

I feel pretty good. I don't think I'm going to be playing quarterback anytime

soon, but I am interested about that Daniel

Jones to the Indianapolis Colts.

I think that's a real possibility.

Everybody's excited about it. Things are happening.

City's a buzz.

Everybody's real excited. I think the

Indianapolis City is just, let's get to next year and let's see how this is going to go. Oh, 26.
No. What do you mean? Nobody is saying they're on the 26.
Nobody. Nobody's saying they're on the 26.
Everybody's saying this is going to be good. Same team, same players, same coaches, same front office, same building, same stadium.
What? Going to go differently this year. That's how it's going to go.
Open competition at the quarterback position has sent a message to the entire roster that nobody's safe. That's right.
Nobody's safe. Yeah, you got to show up.
Yeah, maybe try. Yeah, maybe give a little effort.
Yeah, maybe portray as if you care at all that the team that you're on is trying to win a game.

I think that's going to ooze through the locker room because of the announcement. Was it year three after two years of injury-filled quarterback play

that Joe Burrow put the team on his back and took on the Super Bowl?

Boom.

Yeah, that's right.

That was year two.

Whatever the case, there's a lot of trends.

It's an extra year.

I remember Peyton made it through all those interceptions.

That's right.

You're doing a little bit. That's pretty good.
They are. They're just in town.
The legends were just in town, what, a couple weeks ago? A couple weeks ago, Q&A last Monday. They reset the oar.
Absolutely. This is how professional football works.
You're a fucking professional. This is your job, okay? You can lose this job.
Hopefully sooner than later, everybody in the city is thinking that know because you're the keepers of the jersey currently maybe wear some other ones is that really a widespread thing from what you you gained at the combine that like the basics like showing up on time being accountable to your teammates like that's a real problem like throughout the league not at the good places not good places but at the shite organizations that is a real thing and I think, I don't know, I'm not in the position, and I don't know a lot of these guys. And obviously, I would be the same exact way if I was these dudes.
You get a bunch of money. I'm smarter than you.
I've done it right. Okay, I'm a millionaire already.
You get to the NFL. Hey, you need to do this, this, and this.
No, I don't. Okay, this is how I do it.
And also, don't like the way you're talking to me right now. Okay, you that i am uh i'm not going to come in here you know so i think there's a there's a feel from some coaches in some front offices that you can't actually coach these people mold these people into being accountable driven uh driven adults in this entire thing because everything they've potentially gotten away with and then all you need is just what a couple bad eggs in there especially ogs in there and then it just just goes like this and all of a sudden he lost it it's completely gone so i don't think it's just the colts certainly we've heard a lot about the colts but uh there's other places as well and those are teams that suck and uh it's pretty apparent like if you want to win this probably a piece of it that you're going to need nonetheless uh franchise tag today 4 p.m.
T. Higgins, franchise tag for the second straight time.
Osa down there in Dallas was franchise tag. He comes to terms.
So they could give that to somebody else now? That's a good question. That's a good question.
Oh, if they do it by four today? Yeah. Who would it be? Because technically, did they tag him and then extend him? He didn't sign the tag.
Yeah, can they now say,

okay,

tag, you were it, but

game's not over, now tag,

you're it over here.

I do wonder that. We'll ask Shefter

in about five minutes or so, but there's

a lot of eyes on what teams are going to do.

And

there's so many question marks around this NFL right now. So many question marks.
Monday is going to be awesome. Monday? Free agency starts.
Yeah. The amount of deals that are already done.
I know. That are going to be announced as soon as that clock strikes.
Time is going to be wonderful. So pumped.
And with those announcements are going to come the other side. Releases.
Releases. Releases.
This is happening. This is happening.
Oh, this team got this person. Shit, we thought we had that person.
Now desperation sinks in. We're going this person.
And then there's a second wave where everything kind of calms down a little bit. And then the second wave hits, and it's like, ooh, good signing there.
Ooh, that's good signing. Or are they going to wait until the draft to see who they get in the draft? It's like there's a lot of magic about to take place, especially whenever 4 o o'clock hits today we're really going to prep for people to be able to gear up for the money giving away a free agency on monday it's exciting time in the nfl second time in the nba as well aj you know that yeah i've been watching more nba basketball than i have in the past no doubt us as well and i know we're in the minority i don't think a lot of people are watching basketball they had a big number though on fr have you been watching? Was he being facetious? Yeah.
Who have you been watching? No, I'm dead serious. I mean, I was on a plane flying home.
I watched some games that were on. You had the live TV and the screen in the back.
Yeah. Other than that, I've watched a little.
I mean, I'm a big. I love the Warriors.
I've always loved Steph and what they're doing. Obviously, Jimmy's over there.
So, yeah, I've watched more. Now that the is over, obviously, it's kind of naturally happens.
Most watched NBA doubleheader on ESPN this season came on Friday night, I do believe. 1.8 million viewers for the Cavs-Celtics.
Who won that game? I believe the Cavs won this one. Okay, and then Clippers-Lakers, the Battle of L.A.
nightcap. Who won that game? Luka did.
Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen,

senior NBA insider for ESPN,

friend of the program, Shams Sharanya.

Yay, Shams!

Shams, okay, quickly here,

because NBA talk is something we do,

we enjoy, but we're not the experts.

That's why we bring you in here.

Nico, this general manager for the Mavericks,

it is being alleged by a lot of humans that have opinions and are on the internet that they're trying to tank this team so they can get them the hell out of dallas well it seems like all systems are working in that front you get rid of your star he turns out to be an absolute beast still looky looky the guy that took your team to the finals last year can still play basketball well for the lakers. They go to the number two in the West.
Kyrie now devastating ACL, which we will all obviously miss last night. Anthony Davis gets hurt in his first game.
There's been picketing, protesting, and now mass exodus from these games from Mavericks fans that are diehard fans. What is going on in Dallas? And how do you think everybody around the NBA is viewing the current Maverick situation, Sean? Boys, I think what's going on in Dallas is what was going on in the immediate aftermath of that trade that happened on February 1st.
It's like, how did this happen? And I think Mavs fans in particular, they're still dealing with it. And that conspiracy theory that you're talking about, that they're tanking so much, that they're at war with their fans, that they are doing everything possible to alienate their fans is because they want to move the team.
I've seen that conspiracy online. To my knowledge, Pat, there is zero truth to that.
That's just not a real reality. but the fact that that's even a conspiracy out there just lets you know how like how deeply

extremely reality. But the fact that that's even a conspiracy out there just lets you know how deeply extreme that trade was in the eyes of a lot of people on the league.
Literally everyone in Dallas, I mean, you think about the Mavs and their fan base. Luka Doncic, a generational player, 25 years old, just turned 26.
He's someone, the 77 jersey is going to be all over Dallas forever. He was someone Mark Cuban said once, I would rather get a divorce than to trade Luka Doncic.
I wanted to retire Luka Doncic's jersey. And I know in talking to people on Luka Doncic over the last 72 hours, I was at that Lakers Clippers game on Sunday.
He had no intention ever of leaving Dallas. He had just bought a new home in Dallas you know for a lofty lofty price price uh he did not want to go anywhere you think of a player coming from abroad they're very committed they're loyal and that's how he viewed himself with the Mavericks it's like one team one city forever and I think that's gonna carry over the Lakers I I think he's loving his time in LA i think he's loving how the lakers you think about what the lakers brand is it's like treating stars like stars it's hollywood it's it's it's making the star players bigger than life and that's what we're gonna what we're gonna see with luka donchich but for the mavericks i mean this is just tough because kyrie irving was having an all-star.
He made his ninth NBA all-star team.

He was going for everything.

We've been talking on this show.

I remember when I used to come on here in 2020, 2021,

and he was getting absolutely crushed.

You think about his decision not to take the COVID vaccine shot.

You think about how his image started to go in Brooklyn.

He was reclaiming his spot the last couple of years as an upper echelon top player, the spot that he deserves. And he was on track to get a max contract this offseason, potentially.
He has a player option for $44 million next season. You look at from a stats perspective, Pat, 25 points a game, five rebounds, five assists.
He's the only player in the NBA this season averaging at least 20 points, at least 50% three-point shooting, and at least 90% from three. And for me, this was a devastating injury for him.
Sorry, that's at least 20 points, 40% three-point, 90% from the foul line. Only player in the NBA averaging that.
Fifth of his career, second most ever. He's having a great year.
Yeah, we got it. Yeah, he's having a great year.
50 of 62 games. Got it, got it, got it, got it.
But, Pat, what I will say is his leadership went beyond everything because you think about the deteriorated relationship between Luka Doncic and that organization, and a lot of ways Kyrie Irving was that in between. And the front office leaned on Kyrie Irving, even with their communication with Luka Doncic and that organization and a lot of ways Kyrie Irving was that in between and the front office leaned on Kyrie Irving even with their communication with Luka Doncic and so that relationship had strained they trade Luka and now yeah I mean Anthony Davis has been out since his opener since the first game he played I think him his representatives I think they're gonna huddle up I think they're gonna have some very hard conversations it's not out of the realm of's the last time we, you know, that one game was the last time we've seen Anthony Davis this season.
Okay. So because Kyra's injured, now there's nothing that, you know, he doesn't even, oh my God, this Nico guy is going to survive.
He just has a lifetime job. He's got multiple years left on his contract.
I mean, in the aftermath of that trade, I remember I came on here and I said, we'll judge this trade in the next few months, in the next few years. This trade is dependent on the Mavericks going far.
And they've already been to the finals with Luka Doncic. So what else can you do besides get to the finals? It's winning a championship.
That's what Nico Harrison and the Mavericks have set the standard of being judged on. And Nico Harrison, in his post-trade press conference, said, we'll see if I'm right or not.
We'll see. Yeah, we will.
It's kind of all unfolding right now, but he said he's playing in the long term. This is best for the Mavs, which feeds the conspiracy.
What is the long term? You're saying there's no truth to it at all. Put the hookah down, man.
Anytime, and he has a beer, this guy, this son of a bitch, he drinks a beer whenever he does something good.

And then every once in a while I see him,

he's burning hookah.

If we traded all

players that drank a lot of beer

and maybe smoking a hookah.

Connor has the last question for you here, Shams.

Yeah, Shami, obviously the Lakers are the number two

seed in the West. How about the one seed?

SGA, is he going to be the runaway

MVP here? They showed a graphic earlier today about him having another 50-point game. Unbelievable.
How do we feel about the Thunder, and are they kind of the favorites coming out of the West, even with everything Luka and the Lakers are doing? In my conversations with players, with teams, people on the league, I think he is, Shea Gilles Alexander,ander is viewed as a favorite or a frontrunner right now. I think you have to still look at Nikola Jokic.
Giannis Antetokounmpo, I don't think, gets enough shine as well. What he's doing in Milwaukee, just leading that team, the numbers he's putting up.
But Jokic's numbers speak for themselves. He's having a, I mean, honestly, he might be having a better season statistically than he's had the last few years that he has won MVP.
That just goes to show what Shea Gill's, Alexander's impact has been, the 50-point games, leading this young Oklahoma City team to the number one seed again, runaway number one seed and vying to be the best overall record in the NBA period with the Cavaliers. And he was runner-up last year.
So you think about doing it for back-to-back seasons, this might be the year he gets his flowers. Okay, I hope so.
You know, because Greeny said this morning, SGA no more. He's MVP.
And he said last night was the Shea show. I mean, Greeny was talking in headlines about Oklahoma City's SGA.
What a Shea Gilley's a great name, too. I mean, I hope he does it.
I hope the NBA continues to heat up. Zion Naruto tattoo.
He's playing great ball. We're rolling.
We need Zion Winston to stay on the floor. We need him to continue to dunk the way he's dunking.
He just had his first triple-double last week. Zion fucking around and going triple-double, dude.
You let him play basketball, it's crazy what'll happen. When the man is healthy and he's able to play, he puts up numbers.
We know his impact on winning. And that's why, Pat, it's so hard for the Pelicans.
You think about every year, it's like the rumors of trading Zion Williamson. Let him go.
Let him trade him. let the guy play and he says once again i'm an employee of the pelicans when they let me play i'm on the court uh when they don't i'm on the sideline i'm always happy i got a new tattoo you guys check it out you guys want to do or you guys like this pat would you get a stomach tat like that would you do that shams i don't know if you've seen my body.
I got no tats. Even though I love tats and have the thought of getting tats, I've sat down in the chair and they're like, need you for two and a half, three hours here to not move and it's going to hurt.
And I'm like, alright, I'll get you next time. That's how a stomach tat would be.
That would hurt. He didn't feel it.
My wife's got a beautiful sleeve. He's fit now.
I'm done with it. We appreciate you, man.
You're the best. Appreciate y'all.
Thank you. He's Jim Strums.
He did. He's on J.
He's a J guy. The NBA's happening, H.
You say you accidentally fell into it while on a plane or whatever. They're putting up bigger numbers.
The NHL's seemingly doing well. Sports having a time right now.
Yeah. Sports having a time right now.
I would like it if those Lakers did go in a long run just because of what happened with Dallas. They will.
I have no interest in the West. Like, love the Nugs because Mr.
Malone came on the program a couple times and I enjoyed him in his shit talk. Phoenix Suns, I enjoy Ishbia in what he does.
They brought Kevin Durant in. I love Kevin Durant.
That team sucks. I have no idea how that even happens.
I don't even know how he's scored. Yeah, they're terrible.
They're already talking about him going into the offseason and them working together to get a trade to get KD out of there. But the best thing for the the NBA for shoot, and this is me as a Celtics fan, would be Celtics-Lakers finals because that's the biggest rivalry in the NBA.
It's considered one of those pillar rivalries. So if they were to make that happen, not that it's rigged, but if that were to happen, that would be huge for the league.
Yeah, and I mean, obviously good to have the big markets in it in sport. But, you know, that the pacers have a chance i love that the calves have a chance like the sport needs that okay okay okay like i think the sport needs that now golden state being out with how exciting uh staff is to watch play basketball and now granted as the season goes i guess there's a chance they could still get in it and maybe even win the whole damn thing but it's like nba has a chance here you know first half of the season it was this is the worst league of all time nobody's gonna watch they got big problems and if you start thinking about the league it's like yeah i think they do nobody knows any of these guys nope nobody knows any of them outside of their diehard fan base nobody has a clue about any of these guys except for the fact that we're being told by other nba people ex-nba people and nba experts that these guys are soft so all we're hearing is that these guys are soft these guys are taking nights off these guys are getting paid more money than ever they're opting out of games it's like then you talk to tyrese and tyrese is like yeah everybody kills us doesn't mean we just want to go talk to everybody i mean that's not how this goes.
And not a majority of the NBA are opting out of back-to-back nights. Like, a lot of us are, like, what's being painted as a league in a problem, it's like the reality is not as such.
I'm like, well, you guys need to start telling people this. Like, hey, you need to start.
Maybe let's get to know some of these guys. You know, maybe let's learn some of these stories.
And it's like, if they're able to do that and the games are going to be good and you get the big names playing, it's like the NBA has a chance to save a year that a lot of people thought was a massive failure going into it. Yeah, I mean, the basketball gods are real.
The Lakers are going to make it to... I mean, it's terrible what happened to Kyrie, but this does kind of feel like the universe just saying, hey, you guys screwed over Luka and pissed off all your fans in the process.

Now the Lakers are doing

what they're doing. They're going

to make it to the finals. I don't know if they're going to win, but

they're going to have a deep run into the

playoffs for sure because the basketball gods are real.

Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is not

in the NBA. He's actually in

the NFL. Boy, he's inside of it, isn't he?

Yes, he is. He's seen it up being inside

of it. Deep.

Deep. So deep that

there isn't even like a beef to get to his spot whenever he's grabbing a coffee. Everybody's like, hey, trying to scratch and claw and fight to get there literally through any Starbucks lobby that they possibly can.
And this guy's just sitting up there going, boys, there's enough news to go around. Been there, done there.
Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter. Yeah, Jimmy.
I walked through Starbucks with my head on a swivel. I understand how this works out.
Okay, so you are a little bit worried about the chance that maybe somebody will come out and get you. Hey, I like a Venti Americana, okay, boy, Oh.
Anyone behind me?

Especially with the size of you insiders, this is just a fact of the matter.

One of them much taller than the others.

And it seems like he's the one that's kind of on the prime.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So maybe don't do this here, Schefter.

You need to do this number first.

I think that is the.

With the elbow.

With the ball.

Right in the balls.

Yep.

Right to the.

You know what I mean?

Right to the.

I got it.

I got it.

Careful of the arrow, too, because he's metal.

That's what I mean? Right to the... I got you.
Careful of the arrow, too, because he's metal. Yeah, Tom Pellicer might get in the game as well.
Shefty, great to see you. Hope you had a great combine.
Hope you had a great combine. Nice to be with you.
It was great to see you in person. We love chit-chatting with you.
You're moxie in... I'd say you're spunk.
Whenever we're with you in person is off the charts. So it was great seeing you, great catching up with you.
Now you do and utilize the combine like everybody else does to gather information. Franchise tag deadline about two and a half hours from now.
What should we be looking at and what is potentially the next domino to fall in the NFL offseason from what you know from your conversations? well again we've seen the tags go to t higgins and trey smith in kansas city i don't know that we're going to get another tag which would mean this would be an incredibly uneventful tag period osa adigazua i hope i pronounced that correctly got his deal done there you go pat you could practice with me right now for tomorrow right Adigazua. Breaking news.
Osa Adigazua will be on the show tomorrow at 12.15 Eastern. Thank you, Schefter, for being the connect there.
Go ahead now with him being an $80 million deal. Congrats to him.
So, again, Osa got his deal done today. T is tagged in Cincinnati.
Trey Smith is tagged in Kansas City. Look, I mean, we always could be blindsided by a tag that comes in at the last moment.
But I don't see another tag getting done, which means that we would have two tags in this period, which would be the lowest number. Hold on.
Let me get the exact math here because I've been waiting for this until later on. This would be the lowest number of tags since 1994 when Eric Green and Henry Thomas were tagged.
The next few was 2003 in 2006 with John Abraham, Nate Clements, and Jeff Backus. Who could forget that? 86 and 94 and then 2025 the lightest franchise tag years that is bananas to think about why is that Shefty? Why do you think it is that way Shefty? well I think AJ that number one teams are doing a better job at identifying their players in advance and signing them like again Osa Adigazua could have been tagged today, but he and Dallas were working on a deal, and they're able to get the deal done so that they don't even have to tag him.
You could look around the league, and I think that we've seen any number of these deals get done in recent years. Every time you see one of these big extensions, that takes one fewer guy off the market.
I just think

teams have seen their guys.

They know who's good and who's not.

They're not letting the really good

guys get to market to where they even

have to tag them.

Obviously, there's been teams that have let great players

out the door and they've gone on to

have great success, but with the salary

cap going up too, I think guys are more likely

to get deals done. Feels like this is

a good thing going forward. Less players franchise tag

Thank you. out the door and they've gone on to have great success but with the salary cap going up too i think guys are more likely to get deals done feels like this is a good thing going forward less players franchise tag is good in the players mindset now dallas cowboys since they were going to tag osa since the deadline hasn't happened yet they get a deal done they could take that tag now and throw it at somebody else if they wanted to yeah but i don't think there's anybody else they're going to tag i'm just saying they could though wanted to, because the deal was done before the deadline.
Yeah, you'd have to find somebody else that was going to be tagged. And again, when this period opened, I think the guys that were really under scrutiny for tags were Trey Smith, were Sam Darnold, were T.
Higgins. And it sounds like Sam Darnold is not going to be tagged in Minnesota.

And that, when we talk about some of the things that are going to happen,

that becomes an interesting situation to see how that unfolds here moving forward. Okay, so on that note, D-Bud has a question for you, Shefty.

Yeah, you're saying Sam Darnold not getting tagged coming off career year in Minnesota.

Brock Purdy, another good year under his belt. I know the 49ers have his rights for a few more years.
But when these quarterbacks essentially get their next deal done, Brock Purdy and Sam Darnold, do you have any idea what the ballpark of those contracts will be? We had the $50 million club with quarterbacks. Do you think one or both of those guys joined that club? Well, I think Brock Purdy certainly certainly could but that's a question if they get that deal done again you touched on it there d but um the niners if they don't sign brock purdy this offseason and here's a team that really is up against it financially if they don't sign him and brock purdy obviously is going to want to get a deal done and the niners would want get a deal done.
But the issue is he's scheduled to make $5.1 million this season.

He then could be tagged after next season for $41 million.

He could be tagged the season after that for $51 million.

So if you don't get a deal done with Brock Purdy,

and you're the Niners, and again,

this would not be what Brock Purdy would want, I would imagine. Certainly not what his agent would want.
He would play for $5 million this year, $41 million next year, $51 million the year after. You're talking about $97-plus million over the next three years, which for most people would be incredible money, but not for a quarterback who's waiting to get paid.
And so the Niners have a bit of a cap issue, cash issue. And so they can't put Brock Purdy necessarily where he might be.
They can go to a certain level. They'd want to pay him, but it's not going to be, I would imagine, quite as high as most people think.
Hey, listen, we understand you're worthy of of $60, $55 million. We're just telling you with what we got going on, can't happen, bud.
We're at $45 million. And by the way, by the way, we're at $45 million.
Good money, $45 million is good money. Great money.
No, no, no. By the way, let's just use $50.
We'll use $50 as a nice, round, even number. Okay, $50 million.
$50 million. Brock, we want to pay you $50 million a year for the next three years.
You can make $150 million. If you don't want, no problem.
You can play it out, and you go 5-1, 41, 51, 97 over three years, and then you'll have a chance to hit free agency in four years. You'll be a true free agent.
And at that point, who knows what quarterbacks are being paid. Maybe it's $100 million a year.
Like, maybe. Yeah, but if you could get $97 million over three years or $150 million over three years, I would take the $150 million over three years immediately.
And also, the sell to Brock is $50 million is a lot of money. That's a lot of money.
Now you're going to have the NFLPA, and you're going to have a lot of pressure on him not going for the biggest buck. But if they're going to build the team up around him, maybe they're able to go, which leads to another rumor coming out of San Francisco, which seemingly never ends.
Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Shefty, we know you're tied in with San Francisco and obviously Debo got triggered.
Why do you always say this? You always say this. We just know.
Look, we can read it everywhere. We don't just read your tweets, we break them down, okay? And we know...
Hold on. I want to say to you, Connor, my job is to be tied into every team.
Exactly. That's my job.
Okay? So when you ask me a Steelers question, or you ask me a Ravens question, or you ask me an Eagles question, please say, we know you're tied in there, too. Please say that.
We're not putting down anywhere else. Thank you.
We do know you are deep in the San Francisco 49ers. Exactly.
You're basically saying, like, hey. You're an Eagle knot when we come to tied in, bro.
Bingo. You're an Eagle scout, I mean, with the knots that you got going in there with how tied in you are.
Every parent has their favorite kid in Shefty's favorite team's the Niners. We know that.
We can say that, and there's nothing wrong with that. That's just the reality of the situation.
Okay, and last week, Debo got to say. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
I'm getting simultaneous texts from the Seahawks, Rams, and Cardinals right now. Okay.
They're pissed off that I'm showing favorite nation status to the 49ers. You're ruining relationships in the NFC West, brother.
You're not doing that. We know you would never say that they're your favorite.
We are just saying that based on your Twitter, some of the things that you say at times. But last week, Debo, he gets traded, obviously.
Immediately after that, there's people on the internet calling him a fatso and that that was going on. He tweeted like, whoa, I'm not a fatso, and get ready for this new bod that's coming for the washington commies next year that'll be awesome now the rumors are circulating that brandon iuk might be getting moved and obviously john lynch mentioned you know we got to get younger and with these looming contracts it makes sense they need to kind of get cheaper as well is iuk kind of available our team's calling for brandonuk? And is his injury from last year and the lots of money contract that he has currently, is that going to hurt his trade status going into next year? Well, again, I think that the 49ers in their particular financial situation are open to listening on just about anybody.
Just about anybody. If there's a team out there that is willing to take on the Brandon IU contract with him coming off the torn ACL, I'm sure they would listen.
Absolutely. But again, you've got to find a team that's willing to take on the player with the injury with the contract.
That's not a simple thing to do. Look, if there's no knee injury, it's a simple deal.
But because there's a knee injury, because he may miss the first half of next season, and there are questions about when he'll get back next year, there are a whole host of pending issues. But the Niners, again, for them to play in the free agency sandbox, they're going to have to find ways to clear out salary, whether that's through Brandon Ayuk or Jordan Mason or any other player that they don't bring back or let go.

They have to find ways to get money to help field the kind of roster that they want.

So if an offer comes in on Brandon Ayuk and there's a team out there that's willing to take on that particular situation i'm sure they would be open to listening to it okay so with this comes the brock party deal having to pay your quarterback you can't pay everybody else it's kind of the game got a young quarterback you can pay everybody else you get a quarterback he gets paid you got to figure it out how he was able to debunk the system same with the chiefs and brett veitch but normally that's how it goes in the quarterback world unless you get some of these veteran quarterbacks that may be cheaper price AJ has a question for you Shefty yeah Shefty who do you say like when you say the first domino to fall when you think of all these quarterbacks that may be you know changing teams some of these guys Sam Darnold, Dan Jones, Aaron Rodgers, Russ Wilson all these people who do you think could possibly be the first domino to fall here and sign with a team and what could a deal possibly look like say for Sam Darnold, Dan Jones, Aaron Rodgers, Russ Wilson, all these people. Who do you think could possibly be the first domino to fall here and sign with a team? And what could a deal possibly look like, say, for Sam Darnold? Well, in my mind, the place that I'm watching next, there are two places.
It would be Minnesota and Sam Darnold, because Sam Darnold cannot sign with another team until next week. Minnesota will have interest in trying to work out a deal before he becomes a free agent.
And so they are open to bringing him back. The question is, can the two sides figure out a deal that's worthwhile? The other place to watch this week would be the Pittsburgh Steelers because they currently do not have a quarterback under contract.
It's tough to go into free agency to go add to your offense when you have no idea who's playing quarterback. And that's why I think they're going to spend this week working on getting a deal done with either Justin Fields or Russell Wilson.
I would imagine Justin Fields is first up in the pecking order. We'll see if they can get something worked out there.
If not, it's easy to pivot on to Russell Wilson, and we'll see how this works out. But I would think Pittsburgh is determined to try to get one of these quarterback deals done in the coming days so that it has some clarity going into free agency.
And that doesn't mean they couldn't add another quarterback at some point in time. But I think the idea would be to provide some stability now so that at least they could go into free agency with a little bit more clarity than they currently have.
Oh, mama, I'm in fear for my life from the long on of the long. They don't have a quarterback.
They got a lot more of the fear than the long arm of the law, brother. Is that the most important position in all of sports? Yep.
Is that the one that matters the most? The Steelers. Got no quarterbacks on the roster.
Hasn't had a losing season in a long time. Maybe they'll go to a wide receiver and have him play quarterback.
You broke some news right before you came on the program. Go ahead, Tone.
Yes, Shefty, you're dialed in with the NFL. So I wanted to ask you, you just broke the news that Devontae Adams was released officially.
We figured it was coming. I was looking at the free agent list as far as wide receivers go.
You know, it's Chris Godwin, Amari Cooper, Steph Diggs, D-Hop, does that make him the number one wide receiver on the free agent market? Is there any early favorites on who could potentially go after him? Well, it all depends on what you're looking for. Look, I think we've seen right now T.
Higgins be deprived of the true unrestricted free agency that he wants. And if there's a team out there that wants T.
Higgins, they're going to have to pay T. Higgins and then compensate the Bengals.

And that's if the Bengals are willing to trade him,

which we do not know for sure if that is or isn't the case.

So now you look at the other wide receivers.

Chris Godwin is coming off his own knee injury,

been an unbelievable player, an unbelievable person,

the kind of guy you want on your team.

Devontae Adams is older, still a highly productive player. I think there's just a group of wide receivers.
I don't know that I'm placing one above the other. I think it just depends on the team, how they value each player, but nobody was going to trade for Devontae Adams' contract.
When we go back to Debo Samuel, last week being traded to Washington, he was due $17.5 million.

And really, the Niners didn't get a lot of interest.

They spoke to Houston.

They spoke to Denver.

But in the end, the only team that was really willing to move at that point in time on Debo was the commanders because of the salary.

It's $17.5.

Well, Devontae was due double that.

$39 or something.

Sheesh.

So you were never going to find a trade partner for Devontae Adams. It was never realistic.
And that's why the Jets have essentially granted him his release. He now hits the open market and becomes one of the top free agent wide receivers out there.
Where does he fit? I think look, he's been through it the last couple of years. He's played in Vegas.
Didn't have a quarterback. He played in New York.
They struggled and lost. Without having spoken to Devontae about this, I'm going to guess he wants to play for a winner.
He's going to want to play where he's utilized, where they depend on him, and where he's got a chance to win games. He's going to the Chiefs.
This guy's going to the Chiefs. Oh, no.
Oh, no. I can see it.
You said that. I didn't say that.
I just think that he's going to the Chiefs. He's going to the Chiefs.
Beals? No. Well, there are a lot of players.
I mean, we could go over any number. The Packers.
How about the Packers? Well said. How about Philly? Hold on.
Didn't they say something about him and Josh McDaniels? Yeah, they have a good rapport in New England, but if we're talking winners, that wouldn't be like it. Okay, got it.
You just said that, not me. How many games we won last year? No, no, hey, listen, I agree.
But, again, well, hold on. But New England, and I don't know this, but New England might be willing to pay him more than those other teams.
New England's got over a hundred million in cap space. So now Devontae,

do you want to make more in new England if the Patriots are interested,

or do you want to take less and go to a more certifiable?

These are the decisions that every player is going through.

These are the decisions that every team is going through.

And so you can't just apply a simple formula to this.

These are complicated,

nuanced, layered decisions. Humans.
Yeah. Humans are making decisions about their lives.
Happiness, you know, or choosing to check over the incredible opportunity. And if you choose to check over the opportunity in like a year from now, are you going to regret doing that and maybe say, I'm out of here, get me out of here.
I can't be doing this. I'm done with the irrelevant football games.
That happened out of Miami, obviously, with Tyreek Hill. As soon as he signs with Miami for the massive check, leaving the Chiefs, we all say, okay, he's going to take the bag, but then you don't win a couple years in a row, and it's like, I hate this.
This is not what life is supposed to be like. So there's a lot of decisions that have to be made.
We would all like to see Devontae back in primetime football. I think we would all agree.
A lot of people are saying he and Aaron might be a tandem. I don't know if that's true.
I mean, especially if Devontae's able to get some payment. You talk about New England.
Opportunity and compensation is what they have up there. That's what they got.
And to your point, there was a report about McDaniels and that Devontae was very successful in his offense. And I'm sure Devontae sees what we all see.
You know, Drake Mays got a lot of Aaron Rodgers. All right, so of Aaron Rodgers.
Just something to think about. If this goes how anything has gone over the last five years, Devontae Adams is going to the Kansas City Chiefs, and that is going to be a wild situation when it takes place, but no matter where he goes, we can't wait to see him playing ball again.
Speaking of playing ball again, will Miles Gatt ever be back at Cleveland? Ty, has a question for you. Yeah, Shefty, what's going on there? Most recently we've heard that he's basically said, hey, listen, I'm not negotiating at all.
I do not want to be a Cleveland Brown. Did you hear anything at the Combine or otherwise that suggests possible trade partners? We know that the Lions kind of checked him at the deadline last year.
He wants to go to a contender. Are there any teams that are popping up, and are we any closer to Myles Garrett potentially getting moved? This was the text I got last week.
Myles is not open to discussing a contract extension with Cleveland. This has nothing to do with money.
He wants to go in and he wants to go to a place he feels he has a shot at doing that immediately now the Browns feel just as strongly that they're not trading Myles Garrett so somebody here is gonna have to give or we're gonna have to see how this unfolds I've always felt like this was a question of how dug in Miles Garrett is going to be.

Because if he's dug in and he refuses to report back there and he makes it messy, then eventually, eventually he's going to get what he wants. But the process of getting there is going to be very tense and very complicated and very ugly.
So I don't know how far he's willing to push it. It's one thing to say he's not willing to talk about an extension with Cleveland.
He wants to go to a place that wins. It's March 4th.
You can say that. Is he still saying the same thing on August 4th, if and when nothing's happened? And I don't have the answer to that.
Nobody does right now. now so again all you know is that the browns have been unwilling to budge the situation with miles is he right now is not interested in talking about an extension and i know we've got these questions and and speculation about where miles garrett's going to wind up and And that'll be interesting if Cleveland moves off its stance.

But, you know, I know Philly's been floated out there.

I've had Eagles fans like, are we trading for Miles Garrett?

Like, there are no absolutes at this time of the year.

Anything is always possible.

But I don't know how Philadelphia, who is going to have to pay Cam Juergens

and Jordan Davis from the class of 2022, and Jalen Carter and Nolan Swift from the class of 2023, and Quinone Mitchell and Cooper DeGene from the class of 2024, and draft and re-sign some of its own players like they're going to want to bring back Zach Vaughn. How are they finding the money, not to mention the compensation, to go out and get Miles Garrett? Like, is that real? Yeah.
But, I mean, I guess things always could happen. How is it, dog? How he has this ability.
He is. He is.
He's an absolute dog. Now, granted, Andrew Barry is obviously going to be the one who's going to have to be on the other side of that conversation and maybe Haslam and everything like that.
He's seemingly not moving, but as you've noted, that doesn't mean anything, especially with the history in the NFL.

Myles Garrett getting out of that Vic Fangio over defense over there

with all the changes that they make.

I couldn't even fathom if how he's able to reload like that.

But to the victors go the spoils and the downfalls.

Going to have to pay everybody.

Excited to see how they navigated.

Chef D, we appreciate the hell out of you, man.

Thank you so much for taking the time on this glorious franchise tag deadline Tuesday.

Gentlemen, it was always a pleasure.

Have a great day and enjoy Osa Adigazua tomorrow.

Thank you for making that happen for us.

Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter.

So fresh out of a $80 million extension, Osa Adigazua will be joining us tomorrow at 1215. Can't wait to get his thoughts.
Because to be clear, did not know a lot about him. No.
You know, I think I remember his name during games whenever he'd make a big time play. But it was never the talking point of the Dallas Cowboys.
He just got broken off. Big time deal.
Good for him. D-tackle getting that type of money.
Good news for him. Yeah, a lot of those guys do the dirty work you don't really know them they don't really make the headlines the guy the edge guys like michael parsons obviously trevon diggs even overshone when he was doing a linebacker last year but this is the guy that does the dirty work glad he got his money i am certainly in agreement with that rich eisen broke some rumors that he had heard from the combine he said these are not are not facts.
These are just things that I have heard around the combine.

Rich Eisen talks to everybody at the combine.

And there's a lot of convos at the combine.

Now, what the convo is at the combine doesn't necessarily mean

what it's going to be whenever free agency comes.

It doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be what draft is.

But he's getting a chance to hear from a lot of people

what is currently happening.

Not necessarily the end game, but what is currently happening.

This is what he has to say about the Giants.

I heard the Giants and Raiders' matthew stafford was quite real and it was hairy at at certain junctures last week and i heard the giants hit the number and they hit the number for stafford and they not only hit the number for stafford i heard this again from multiple multiple people, I heard they hit the number for Stafford, and they hit the trade comp, too. They were in.
And I heard the Raiders were way in, too, on Stafford. And Stafford had a real...
The Giants even hired his brother-in-law, Chad Hall, on the coaching staff. And so they really made a run.
So Gi the trade comp they hit it hit the number which was reported 90 to 100 million guaranteed whatever whatever it was i don't know what it was i heard they hit it why didn't the deal get done because i think at the end of the day the stafford's like looking at the sun setting over the Pacific Ocean. And it's, you know, when it all comes down to it, it is the best spot for him.
Yeah, so he said that the Giants were all in. And meeting the trade comp, meeting the number, which allegedly potentially nine figures in this entire thing at this stage of Matthew Stafford's career.
Rap report during the combine came out and said that he took a lot less money to stay with the Rams. McVay yesterday said whenever this comes out, you'll see how incredibly selfless this was of Matthew Stafford with the deal.
So I think him being able to kind of hear the options and the opportunities and where he would have to go to get these things was certainly a good thing that the Rams let him do. That's a good football gods will bless the Rams, I think, with that.
But inevitably in the end, Matthew Stafford and McVay talk on Friday morning. I assume Les Snead gets in there as well.
They lay out the plan going forward. Maybe air some grievances.
Maybe air some grievances on how things have gone, and they get to a point where Matthew Stafford is returning. In the middle of that, you decided to interrupt, and you said that these teams suck, which is potentially why Matthew Stafford didn't want't want i think that is also a massive piece of it yeah i mean yeah you're going to a quarterback at his age what he's already accomplished you're going to different franchises that you would you would think are a little far further away from winning uh than you are in la a lot of us expect that la to win three four games this past season what they had they obviously knew what they.
We saw Sean McVay yesterday, and just talking to him for however long that was, you can sell the electricity and what he brings to that building day in and day out. And I feel like this is right.
This is only right. This is the right place for Matt Stafford to finish his career.
Had a long, loyal run in Detroit, and I think this is the right place to go and finish it however he sees fit. Still a team that can be right there in it.
We saw how dominant that Philadelphia Eagles run was last year, but this was a team that was a few plays away. So it's the right place, I think, for now in the finish his career.
Yeah, and you mentioned it when it comes out of his contract, how generous he's going to look and how awesome it is. Could you imagine Devontae going over there? We're talking about teams that he could possibly play for and maybe go play a little cheaper.
And they said the West Coast is coast is going to be a real part of davante's decision making process because of his family that was the whole thing with the raiders when he you know fan of the raiders growing up and his family's out there they can go see his games like the rams him with mcveigh and puka nakua and karen williams you talk about just winning immediately that would be incredible him going into a mcveigh offense would be fun to watch yeah there's another West Coast team that needs a wide out, too. Go on.
Same exact city. Because when I saw that rap report about West Coast, I immediately pulled it up.
And Chargers and Rams both need wide receivers. They're both on the West Coast.
They both can win, especially with great quarterbacks. Those are places Devontae would probably love.
Yeah, especially, I mean, maybe the Chargers go this year. Maybe.
Did you watch Harbaugh and Hortiz on the program? Yes. You loved the Chargers since the day they got Justin Herbert.
What did you learn from that conversation? What I learned is they got a culture already in place, and they're going to go. Yeah.
I love the, and obviously we only get to see bits and pieces, but even the relationship dynamic between those two. Like hearing, I forgot who asked about Khalil Mack.
It's like, hey him pay the man pay the guy like he's even the guys that aren't necessarily under contract right now you can tell what those guys mean to that culture we always say culture culture culture uh jim harbaugh has shown he's a culture guy he can build winners you know the way he builds him he's going to build his team to draft through free agents he's going to bring the right guys in. We've been around the weight.
We met everybody from the weight room, from the staff, and just the vibes in that building. You feel like that's an organization going in the right direction.
You always have to have a guy, a quarterback, and I think they have the guy with Herbert. How about the Rams, too? One play away from beating the Philadelphia Eagles.
You're beating the hell out of everybody. It's like they're on the cusp of potentially going.
There's a lot of teams that are close, I think. Whenever we look back, maybe we forget about because they didn't play in the playoffs or they didn't play late.
So we forget all about it. It's the NBA playoff effect.
If you're not in the NBA playoffs, nobody knows you even had a season. I mean, because it's so long.
You're in there. It's happening with college ball, too, for me.
If you didn't, like Jackson Dart, we hadn't seen him play football in forever. We saw a lot of people play football.
Then you watch these highlights, you're like, dude's a dog. Dude's an absolute dog.
You kind of forget about him. Same thing in the NFL with some of these teams.
I think we just rule everybody out. That team stunk.
They didn't even make the playoffs. And it's like, there's a lot of organizations that are sitting there like, we were fucking four plays away from really making it.
We're playing our best. Every year.
Every year that's the case where there's so many, not so many, but there's a handful of teams that lost so many one score games or three or six point losses where yeah for whatever reason they just couldn't find a way to to get over the hump there so i don't know every year i don't know why i'm on the one shot right now if that's actually what's going out but i think there's a lot of teams like that hey that's good self-awareness these guys producing television while they're chit-chatting about a situation um yet it's an interesting time right now for our program you know like at this exact moment right now just sitting and waiting on a text message we got we got if i could put that eyeball emoji out i would put that eyeball emoji out hey something's coming holy shit anytime you see me put the eyeball emoji out it's me saying I know what's about to come out.

And I've decided not to dive into the insider world

and let everybody know.

This one is

eyes emoji

and we are going to be the ones

I think that are going to let the cat

out of the bag, I do believe, on a

rather large, rather

large piece of news.

Be careful getting into this world now.

I know. You know what? Everybody fucking hates me already.

Dance with the dragon.

I don't want to get into the insider world because you piss

people off and it's like, I already have enough people

saying terrible things about me, so

forget it. Maybe I do get into the insider world.

Good luck, Starbucks stare down

guys. There might be a new

pecking order in this entire

game, but it is certainly

an honor to potentially do that

Thank you. good luck starbucks stare down guys yeah there might be a new pecking order in this entire game but it is uh it is certainly an honor to potentially do that type of thing gotta earn up a lot of trust with people i think in this particular case we have and uh now we just sit and wait for a text big fish yeah this is a big piece of news maybe just do it this is a big uh what position don't worry about it don't worry about.
We've got onto this for a little bit now, so you know, it's been squeaky clean. What was that thing you wanted to talk about, Tone, in the ball cap? It was something about something that happened about something in the NFL world, remember? It was a big deal on this franchise tag day with those free agents.
Yeah, it was a big deal. I was just talking about the free agents in general and how great this class is.
There's a ton of D-backs we talked about earlier. That's a huge part of this one.
And it's kind of like there's not a lot of – I mean, there's D-backs obviously in the draft, but it's not a deep D-backs one. So the free agency D-backs could be heavy, especially the same with the wide receivers, but probably not for like running backs because those are – D-tackles because those are heavy in the draft.
But there's still a lot of huge names out there. And now that Devontae's on that, like, Cheptie said that there was tears for wide receivers.
But, like, when I look at the wide receivers, Godwin's coming off an injury. So maybe him 1A, Stephon Diggs is coming off an injury, Mark Cooper, you know, coming off of a – A bit long in the tooth.
Yeah, a bit long in the tooth. Something weird happened there in Buffalo where he didn't get a ton of production.
But Devontae is definitely, I think in my eyes, 1A as far as wide receiver free agency. A healthy Diggs.
A healthy, motivated Stephon Diggs, obviously out there playing for some money. And then not even – Hollywood Brown, you know, I think he brings a level of explosive.
Off an injury too. To an offense for sure.
Yeah, he got healthy later on.

And Milt Williams on the other side of the ball in the trenches.

These guys just dominated the Super Bowl,

so he played his best ball at the right time.

It's a magical time around the NFL, and obviously we'll continue to chat about it on ESPN+, Disney+,

YouTube, and TikTok Live.

Yeah, something's cooking right now.

And it'll certainly be coming in a few moments. I believe this clock is completely off.
Shout out to Bruce Brown. We'll be back tomorrow here on ESPN.
We'll see you then. I think we're actually on ESPN 2 right now.
Yeah, what are we going for today? Spring training baseball. Mets are playing ball.
I think it's all week. Soto play? I think it's all week.
When's opening day? I think Friday we're actually ESPN News. End of March.
Three weeks, yeah. I think Friday we're ESPN News.
Oh, really? Yeah, I think it's a Yoli diner. But with that being said, it doesn't matter because the digital audience is the only one of them that matters.
Don't say that. Don't say that.
Josh Pate, my dude, pointed out the obvious and all the things that I've been wanting to say for years, Josh Pate is saying. we appreciate you brother yeah we do appreciate you it's amazing how that works though isn't it josh all these tv people say yeah the internet people are a bunch of hack blah blah and then they go to the internet and goodbye you vanish poof gone and then the other thing digital people add into seems to go, okay, why is that? I wonder why that is.
Which one's more difficult? Well, the people that are on digital, they have to find you. They have to get to you, which is why we're so damn thankful for all of you because you have to open an app or you have to search into an app.
You have to go to a platform. You have to dive in to get to us.
And to be honest, it never made sense to any of us why you guys do that for us uh we understand we're the dumbest show of all time but the fact that you do it we're incredibly thankful for in this big night that's happening uh relatively soon with a date being announced here in a few days and then ticket sales to be following in pittsburgh pennsylvania um it's a massive give back to as a thank you to everybody you know and uh i think it's going to be a magical evening i think it's a massive give back to us. A thank you to everybody.

I think it's going to be a magical evening.

I think it's going to be a magical night in Pittsburgh.

AJ, I will give away one of the surprises

because there is huge surprises

throughout the night.

That and friends thing is certain.

We're exploring the space of friends.

We are exploring the space of and friends.

AJ Hawk will be a part of the show. Let's go.
What about magician Michael Malone? We will not be having a guy that ate nails on this stage. Top of the book.
And also, our people have already seen him. Our people have already seen that trick.
I want this to be exciting. So AJ will be a part of the program.
Consider that a little. And guess who else? Who? Darius J.
Baller. D-Butch.
Awesome. Okay.
Can't wait. D-Butch is going to be there.
It's going to be a big one. It is not going to be our program.
Just as a heads up. It's not a live show.
It's not this show. It will be a live show.
But it's not this show. Live show.
Humans from this show. On show.
But not but not this it's a show that's never been done before the more i've looked in ever in the morning i don't think so i don't think so you heard like nitro circus maybe like that uh sure i i mean maybe we'll get a dirt bike in there doing a back flip on my hearse and sure uh maybe get a a patty ramp. There's a chance.
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Yeah.

Yeah.

Should be pretty electrifying.

Happy it's happening in Pittsburgh.

Shout to the Yinsers and for the surrounding area.

Jeez, Luis.

Kicking the tires a bit.

It's pretty hot confirmation.

Yeah, buddy.

It always goes.

Yeah, buddy.

Just got.

Oh, yeah. Oh.
If you would have made that, you would have had to just. Just say it.
Fire. Fire from the hip.
No, because you got to get. Yeah.
Whenever this comes, everybody's going to be like, it makes sense that they're just sitting here instead of going to the bathroom, which he clearly has to piss. Look at him moving around right now.
I certainly do. I've been hydrating the shit out of myself.
I think, you know, I'm trying to get healthier as I continue to grow on. That was one of the conversations I had with myself during the break.
I said, listen, you got a daughter, dude. Let's live.
Bingo. Let's survive.
You are healthy, though. Not as much as I could be, you know? What, you got to carry a tone? You got to carry the metal jug around like tone was doing? Won't do that, but I do respect those who do because they care more than anybody else.
With that being said, shout out to one half of Hammer. Done.
Ball cap, boys. AP tone.
No cowboy. Wow.
Good ride, Tony. Walked into Hammer downtown, as I do every single day, to grab my cowboy hat.
And I looked at it, and I said, I don't think you deserve to wear that today. So I didn't.
Why? What happened? Did you do something? Did you? I just didn't feel it. What did you do, buddy? What was the guilt that you were feeling about a cowboy hat? I don't feel guilt.
Punish yourself. It's not something I am capable of.
Good. That's good.
Yeah, so it has nothing to do with it. I think it's because I don't think I've been watching.
I haven't watched a cowboy show or movie in a long time, so I just didn't feel it in my bones. You can feel it.
Yeah, you can wear it. Yeah, Chase, yeah, for sure.
He decided to chase the ball cap today. It's winter, so I haven't listened to country music in a while either.
So it just you know it's kind of lettuce is phenomenal these days yeah that's what i'm saying when are we going to finally just do no cap one half of the hammer dad no cap boys when's that gonna happen probably soon soon keep capping i'm getting older i you know i looked at my homes on the hardwood the other day and i said he cut his hair you know what am i doing i'm not it's not ha parading around in a cowboy hat all the time. Oh no.
We knew this time was inevitable. You're a cowboy.
We knew that this was going to come. This has been since COVID, brother.
It's been like four or five years since I've been on a ranch. I've been busy.
I haven't done light ranching in a couple years at least. Yeah, maybe 30.
What? What? 35 years?

So you're no longer a cowboy? Is that what I am?

No, I am. I am.
I am.

Is it dead?

It just felt like today. Massacre week?

It's just a day to day. Yeah.

Cowboy tone is dead, brother.

Absolutely.

I know what he asked.

And it is a necessity.

No. Dead.
I know what he asked and it is a necessity dead in this particular case is the hammer down cowboys will ride no more just the hammer down boys I didn't know this was going to happen today you got COVID you went into your COVID. In between bouts of shaking and trembles and

being incredibly hot and being

incredibly cold and

being wildly sick. Something that none of us

has ever really seen before in 15 minute intervals

seemingly. Yeah.
Shiting your pants.

Perfectly sketchy.

You had to isolate yourself from your entire

family.

And while you were awake, you said, fuck it. I'm going to dive through this sports book more than I've ever done before.
Coming out of there, you became the best gambler you have ever been. So the COVID cowboy became a superstar gambler, which actually started Hammer every single day.
Now, although Hammer will, will still ride. The Cowboys

seemingly no more.

What an era. What a run.

It was one of the good things that came from COVID.

Yeah.

And now it's dead.

God bless the Cowboy.

Amen. I'm bummed that.

Me too.

I'm bummed that. Me too.
I'm bummed that. Hey, Bill.
Bailey McComas did just come in and take a photo of the moment of silence for the cowboy hat. Had to capture a moment? This is a big moment in the history of our program.
I'm happy that Bill got that. Thank you, Bill.
That's what AJ was saying. Your head popped into the bottom half of the...
And then your traps. He's working out with his bodybuilders.
Yeah, he's so jacked. I mean, we should have went to the bathroom and came back with this.
Still just sitting here staring. Not even a typing thing.
Not even a typing thing. Probably still can.
These things tend to... Linger? Yeah.
And they talk. I'm gonna say, hey.
Hey. the fuck? I'm about to piss my pants.
Can we piss?

Oh, in that case, yes. You can confirm.

Hey.

I've been on three phone calls today during the show.

I don't think a lot of people understand.

That's big news. That's when you know.

Yeah. Walk away.
Boys, need you to ask an

extendo question here. Maybe a follow-up

in this entire thing. I'm on a damn

Thank you. an extendo question here.
Maybe a follow-up in this entire thing. I'm on a damn...

I think we're close.

I heard that before.

Type in bubbles?

Actual message saying

soon.

Hold the line.

Soon is relative.

Soon means very soon. Ten minutes is soon.
Like you is soon can I go pee Fogle he's getting out yeah you would know that's what you think we're holding up the show for that's your problem you should have that's something you should have known as not something he would hold up a show for but with that being said I do think he's getting out getting out at some point. Really? It's on franchise tag.
Something else is happening. I thought he was getting fired squad in South Carolina.
No, yeah, South Carolina is bringing back death by firing squad for the death penalty. What are the details? First one in 15 years.
Three guys are going in. They're going to have rifles about 15 feet away, and they're all going to have live ammunition.
Only three? Yeah, which is a little disappointing. And I thought maybe Uzi's.
And they're always blanks for one? No. Well, that's what they used to do, but they're saying, nah, we're not doing that anymore, so they're all going to give the guy...
And now they don't know whose bullet did the killing, so nobody has any guilt. Exactly.
They also have a doctor on staff to come in and confirm. Yep, he's dead.
Okay, we take a break.

We'll be back in about five with some breaking news.

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Big breaking news.

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Me neither.

Ponce me. Kind of off.

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Dude strapped in 10 feet away.

You better not miss.

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I think I saw something where a guy got scared a bit and he didn't die. Lethal inject.
Jack. Oh, yeah, that happens a lot.
They'll live for like 40 minutes or something. No.
Didn't die at all. Didn't die.
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You look fantastic, D. Butch.
All right, it is a great Tuesday because obviously the franchise tag deadline is in an hour and 49 minutes. Will any other teams put the franchise tags on their players? We shall wait and see.
What we do know is our source says have told us that the Super Bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles have signed Saquon Barkley to a two-year extension, averaging over $20 million per year. $36 million guaranteed at signing, with $15 million more available in incentives.
Obviously, nobody had this in their bingo cards. Nobody had a clue if Saquon Barkley was going to sign an extension.
They thought he took less money to go to Philadelphia, and that thing was always settled instead howie a money team ed who represents saquon barkley decided to get together do what was right for the most electrifying the most dominant the most powerful player in the nfl this year behind a great offensive line a historic run to a super bowl champion and add two more years and money that has never been seen before at the running back position. Now, I have more information on this entire thing.
Regarding an extension for running back, one year in on a three-plus-year free agency deal, never been done before. Not even in the second league year has it happened for a running back.
This is happening in the same league year. How he wanted to make it

right for Saquon for everything he did for the Philadelphia Eagles team. This is the largest fully guaranteed for a running back in NFL history.
It's the highest two-year cash for a running back in NFL history. It's the highest three-year cash for a running back in NFL history.
Max average per year possible if all the incentives are hit 25.85 million per year congratulations to saquon barkley and philadelphia eagles for getting a historic legendary one of one deal done for a one of one running back who put the team on his back doe what a deal what a time what a. What a run by Saquon.
From whatever we saw in Hard Knocks offseason, Joe Shane saying, I don't think we'll be able to pay that amount of money with how much we're paying our quarterback and everything like that. The Eagles have a $50-plus million quarterback on the roster and now a $20 million-plus running back on the roster while having A.J.
Brown, Devontae Smith, the best offensive line in football, and a tight end, Goddard, who's tougher than you are. Howie has continued to somehow do these magic tricks to stack a roster.
On the defensive side, they're going to have to make some plays. They're going to have to add some people.
Bradbury gone. Darius Slade gone.
Zach Bond, potential free agent. What will they do there? We assume they'll figure it out because that's what they've done nick sirianni big dom howie and the entire squad over there bradley cooper included keep saquon barkley and his powerful football team together for at least another two years on top of the deal they signed congrats the whole party yeah aj it's a big deal and i think it's a good olive branch from the philadelphia eagles to reward a player that has done so many amazing things for them in such a short time.
Yeah, I mean, credit to the Eagles in getting this done. $36 million guaranteed at signing.
That's gigantic, especially for the running back position. And, yeah, the fact that they did this when they absolutely did not need to.
They didn't have to. This is like in good faith, like, hey, you paid us back.
It's so much by the trade that we made to bring you in here and what you brought to this team in this city i think this is awesome i we don't see this happen very often like you said saquon is one of one this the kind of deal does very like never happens actually in this kind of setting so yeah this is awesome man like why i guess why not if you have the cap space and you can make it work why wouldn't you do this this energizes your whole team you remember saquon took less money to go to the philadelphia eagles than he could have got in numerous other places because of how much he appreciated the culture the area and the offensive line being able to keep him around obviously how he knew was like this is good but also keeping him happy like hey let's let our star know that we love him here and let's reward him for the year that they had and we win a super bowl with thisbutt, I love this move by the Eagles. Man, this is awesome.
This is great. Howie kind of always catches us by surprise.
Nobody expected us to have. You said first time ever going to re-up after the first year.
And he took less initially. And it's kind of like everything you've seen Saquon do, I guess even in front of the camera we don't see it all, but like the game where he didn't go back in to finish his single game rushing record or whatever it was.
The single season rushing record, set out that last game, didn't chase that, but got the ultimate goal, went and got the Super Bowl, and now this is the team and the organization not doing, you know, good by their player, doing great by him. Something we've never seen before coming off as a player of the year performance where he could have very well been the MVP.
I love to see this not only for Saquon and the Eagles, but for that running back position. We've been talking about the position coming back.
And once you get that money, you reset that market. Not a bunch of Saquons out there, obviously, but you reset that market.
So, you know, these big workhorses will start getting their money again. Yeah, it's awesome for some of the younger guys.
And it didn't change the running back position, but it feels like it almost like redefined what you need to have. Like you need to be able to catch the ball out of the backfield.
You obviously need to be able to, you know, take the ball 60-plus yards when you have that space. And their own line, it is the best in the league, so it's a huge, you know, credit to them too.
But if you're Jameer Gibbs, if you're, you know, B. John Robinson, if you're even like a Kyron Williams for the Rams, you know, know at least now you kind of know like okay i there is this new market available for us and those older guys it kind of stinks and it feels like even for like derrick henry you would think maybe derrick henry could get a new new deal from this but even him he doesn't do what saquon does when it comes to you know the effectiveness in the pass game and stuff they use justice hill a little more often than you know any of the other running backs like the Eagles get.
But it's great for the running back position because that's been a huge storyline the last few years. How many mil do you think they added on for the jump over backwards thing that he did? Oh, that was at least 30.
Yeah, at least 30. Yeah, they were probably at like 17 million a year.
And they were like, but. Check this.
You know, there it is. You see it? He did that.
So let's make sure we reward that. And they were like, you're right.
That's at least three a year. And then with the incentives up to 25 potentially per year.
What a deal. Shout out to Money Team Ed.
Yeah. Hey, shout out to Ed getting that deal done.
I mean, that is a wonderful job, especially, you know, you talk about everything. The Eagles did not have to do this at all at all nobody would have really been able to grandstand about it either like hey you gotta take care of saquon you gotta take two years left on this entire deal like he just got there like they had massive success nobody would have been petitioning against the eagles for not re-signing or giving saquon bark more money.
Like if Saquon would have came out, which he allegedly would never do with the human that Saquon is, the way he operates and the way he's beloved in that locker room. But if Saquon was to come out in every single interview and be like, I need more money.
I need more money. I think Eagles fans would be like, yeah, definitely.
See, also, you got a couple years left in this entire thing. What's the precedent? How are we going to do this? i don't know how like many people would have been like yeah give him more money with how this worked out so them just being like we got to take care of our guy we got to make sure he knows how much we value him we got to make sure he understands that we believe in everything that he's about it's uh that's a beautiful thing to watch great the message to the rest of the team though think about it sends a message to the team, too.
Hey, if you come here and you do, you're unbelievable. We don't see all the behind-the-scenes stuff.
We just know what we hear and how the guy is just the absolute pro at all times and unbelievable for his teammates. But it shows you, hey, we take care of our dudes.
Even though we didn't draft Saquon, we traded for him. He comes in and we take care of him.
I wonder who started this like did Ed come to to the Eagles and money Ed Berry come in there and say hey now we need some more cash or did they come to him like that's how did this even start I genuinely have no idea I wonder if there was a conversation that was had that was like hey don't you think by either side it's like yeah actually we should that does make sense yeah yeah we should and that's take care of this guy that's the type of culture i think they're trying to build over there too right like sirianni talks about how much bonding and love and everything because there's going to be adversity especially in philadelphia okay there's going to be adversity in philadelphia their fans are going to bring you some adversity whether or not there is adversity i mean they're winning games last year and people are calling for heads they change their style of offense they're two wide receivers who have been paid, who are number one wide receivers on their own, had less pass attempts than rushing attempts for the entire offense, and they still kept everybody on board. It's like that culture over there, that building is in a very good spot, fresh off of the Super Bowl.
Lose a couple key pieces, but this is what happens whenever you're successful. They keep Saquon.
I assume they're going to be able to keep that offense aligned, and if you got that, you can win any game win any game and I assume that's what they know over there yeah it seems like this would be something that was mutual because obviously when they acquired Saquon like if he stays healthy and he does all the things that you think he can do you know he's going to have an unbelievable season but I would even imagine that like what he did this year surpassed their wildest expectations I don't think you assume a guy's going to rush for 2,000 yards. And for him, too, to realize, hey, I'm from this area growing up.
I went to Penn State. This is where I want to be for as long as I can be.
So, yeah, if it's a little bit more money here, why not? And for them to know, the Eagles probably don't win the Super Bowl if they don't have Saquon Barkley. Not probably.
Yeah, well, right. I'm not trying to talk in absolutes here.
But, yeah, absolutely. If they don't have saquon barkley not probably yeah that's well right you just you know i'm not trying to talk in absolutes here but yeah like absolutely if they don't have saquon barkley they're not winning the super bowl so it makes sense like let's not carry this thing out and drag it out longer than it needs to be let's make sure he's happy and get things done like you said for howie like you can do this kind of stuff when you have a bunch of rookies and young guys who are immediate impact players on your offense and defense and you get a guy like Zach Bond who you paid for pennies and then he has the season like he has so it's just tremendous all around for the Eagles.
When we talk about it being a mutual deal situation there is a chance because sometimes when players get these extensions that the cap hit for this year could actually be better than what it was going to be on his current contract and they do have a ton of people to pay. So as far as it being mutual, it could be a situation like that too where his cap hit is actually better this season, even though he's getting more money.
He's getting more guaranteed money, but it works out for the team and the player. Go ahead, AJ.
No, I mean, I think that when you can spread it out and give a guy a deal, it'll free you up cap space like right now in the moment. So I'm sure, yeah, it worked out for everybody.
We get to take care of this guy that has done so much for this organization in the short time he has been here, and it might free us up a little bit in cap space, even though we are making this guy the highest paid running back of all time. I bet you Big Don was the one that said we need to do this.
Probably. Definitely had something to do with it.
But even with – because we were talking about it with the Niners, having to move these pieces around because you have to pay your quarterback. Like how he paid Jalen Hurts, but his cap hit is like super low.
Like he's making 51 a year, but his cap hit is to the point where they can have all this flexibility where people are still talking about, hey, they may be in the Miles Garrett ballpark and making that work somehow, some way. And it's one thing to talk about it.
AJ talked about this deal, doing this at this point, sends a message to the locker room. It's one thing to talk about it.
But we all know in business, the money is how you show your respect, especially in that locker room, especially at that position when you are taking that risk to give that money to a running back position. We looked at it a few weeks ago.
All the guys on the Eagles roster who have already been paid, whether it's O-line, the guys on the D-line, secondary, all up and down that roster, guys have gotten fair, good contracts up front. So, once again, another great move from Howard.
I wonder, you know, McVay says, I want to see as opposed to hear or something like that. I can see how you feel a lot different than hear how you feel or something like that.
I forget his exact quote, what it was. It's like, to your point, it's like, yeah, we love you.
We love you. We love you here.
And then actually being like, no, yeah, like, hey, we're very grateful for you, man. Thank you for what you did.
Not that Saquon would ever not be all in, but I'm just saying the amount of buy-in that you have from stars now, Jalen, Super Bowl champion, paid. All in.
Saquon, Super Bowl champion, paid. All in.
It's like having your guys be all in saquon super bowl champion paid all in it's like having

your guys be all in is good news for the off season going into training camp just the ease

of the mind taking distractions out of the way because there's always going to be them

and uh i love the move taking care of their guy taking care of their guy make it'll make you want

to prove them right like we know like athletes you're driven by proving people wrong like all

right i hate this person they slighted me a chip on my shoulder like there's a ton of motivation in that but there's also motivation in trying to prove people right like hey these people believe in me like these front office they didn't have to do this and i think that trickles down through everybody in the roster like you if you feel like they like it's a it's a true partnership and they appreciate you yeah you want to do whatever prove them right. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who spends all of his time on ESPN.
And even when he's on ESPN, he says he's not going to spend all of his time on ESPN. Then he comes back to being on ESPN, which is good news for all of us.
Ladies and gentlemen, former NFL quarterback, now expert on everything football on ESPN, Dan Orlovsky. Yeah! Dan-O, obviously,

you know the Johns well.

Your wife, I believe,

from Philadelphia. You pay close attention

to the Eagles because of that. You've said

some things throughout the year

about the Eagles. You weren't the only one.
A lot of people

have said these things. But this deal

that Hallie and Saquon

were able to get done through money team Ed

Berry, I love it. Not only is it historic amongst running backs and everything like that, but just there was no need for it.
And for the Eagles to say, we want to take care of our guy, I think that's good precedent to set with the football gods, Dan-O. This just happened? Yeah, I just broke it, bub.
So we got a two-year extension for what, 40.1 or something? Yeah, but with incentives included, it could go up to $25.85 million per year if he hits all incentives, which I assume is everything he did this past season. That's sick.
Howie Roseman, God bless. Isn't it two years left on a deal? Could have just waited it out.
Nobody would be petitioning for Saquon. Instead, get a deal done in the offseason here.
Now we got no question marks on who our studs are. Dio.
I also think Philadelphia for years, I mean, I remember going back, I think, like 10 years. They were always or one of the teams that was always paying guys a year early.
So often teams wait till and places wait till the person's contract up or a player's contract is up and it's till like the very end of it and I remember I thought they did it maybe with like Fletcher Cox and Lane Johnson where they just choose to pay hey we drafted you you're in your second year we're just gonna extend you because you we know you're a good player and whatnot so um Philadelphia I mean right now it's the best roster in football, clearly. And it certainly seems like they've added it.
But it's awesome to see. It's one of the reasons why it seems like those people love playing there is how he does take care of them.
And so it's big time for them. Yeah, I agree.
They'll continue to stay committed to the run game. I think they had 715 rushes, 515 passes

last season. It was like

they clearly committed to the one

over the other, kept everybody happy

and won a Super Bowl, which means

other teams are going to try to do the same exact

thing. So not only trailblazing in this entire

thing, they're also taking care of their guys

that are doing it all. Good for the Eagles,

man. Good for Philadelphia.

That's the city of brotherly love. That's the city of brotherly love right there.
The amount of the runs that happened, I remember I texted Kellen, I think some point, maybe late September. What'd you say, hey, I'm trying to get Sirianni fired for you to become the head coach? And I said, I don't know exactly how the conversation was started or whatnot.
Okay, so probably like that. Got it, got it, got it.
Okay, go ahead. I honestly think that we can break the amount like the rushing attempts record.
That was like the mindset flipped for them at some point late September. Maybe it was after the bye and the whole stories at the offensive line going to him, but I remember him telling me, we honestly might try and break the rushing attempts record.
Okay, so congrats to the Eagles. Everybody's going to try to catch them, especially in this draft season, free agency season, franchise tag season.
They're at the top of the mountain. Everybody's trying to catch up.
Before we talk about everything happening in the football world, let's talk about you for a second. What was all that shit about? Yeah, you alright? I thought you were dying.
It was like you were gone forever, and then we just saw you on TV, and it was like... I can't believe you're doing this.
I thought he was pulling Jimmy Johnson. Yeah, Jimmy Johnson, congrats on a hell of a career in the football world.
Football appreciates Jimmy Johnson for everything he's done to football. Listen, I honestly don't know why that became such a big deal.
Well, you made it. I do that.
No, I don't. I do that same thing.
It's about to be my last show over. In a day or two after the Super Bowl every year, I go from being on TV every day and then taking a pretty substantial break.
And so I was just saying like, hey, I'll be going away. Is there a reality that there is a business element of it coming at some point? Sure.
But I do that every year. Okay.
You capping, dog. Okay.
We don't know if you capping or not. We have not paid close enough attention.
do know we no cap okay no cap he's okay no cap he's not capping he's capping he's got no cap he's capping you said go check i do it okay i do you can go check yeah fine first take the day or two after the last three super bowls i said that basically the same we can tell if he capped this year you, you know, added a few crying emojis and everyone wanted to get you tissues. Yeah, but it was real life.
It wasn't actual tweets. It was real life.
Man! It seemed a little bit more emotional this time. It was a real part of that.
Yeah, that's a real thing. It was a long season, too.
And you are on TV every single day, so whenever, you know, the abrupt absence of Dan Orlovsky, we all feel it. So we appreciated the heads up.
But I think a lot of people thought it was a little bit more serious. I think because the business end, it also leaked that maybe there is a timeline on all that.
Well, we would like you to know, we miss you when you're not on TV. And we're happy you're back.
Yeah. Welcome back, Don.
Not that you signed a deal. Not that you signed a deal.
I'm not. I'm not back.
You are on TV. Wait, wait, wait.
You were going mad dummy yesterday on TV. No, I worked yesterday because it was the Monday after the NFL combine.
I'll be on two days next week because it's NFL free agency. I think I work a day or two at the end.
these are the final days in a schedule. We're winding down.
He's patting. He's patting.
He's not patting. He's just a matter of fact right now.
He's patting around that office. I can see it now.
He said they got me booked two days next week, two days the following week. We got the combine, the draft.
That's why I'm in there doing, I'm doing my job. But there's a conversation that needs to be had, I think is what Dan Olofsky's saying.
And what we'd like to say, we're going to enjoy every appearance that you make. We should record them all.
Every appearance you make. That's not – Faith Evans? Are you sure? Yeah, I'm sure.
No, that's the police. That's the thing in the police.
It's the police. It's not Diddy.
The, it's a Sting song Sting? That's not real It's the police, dude So this is the Sting version I think Sting sang it first No Every appearance you made Still in black art For granted we won't take. That's not art.
Easy, butts. Okay, so you're going to bat for Diddy right now? No, no, no, no.
That's what it sounds like. You're a South Beach guy.
You're a South Beach guy. I made sense.
I just want to say, what I would like to say is the appearances that you'll be making over the course of the next few weeks, we will definitely take in and enjoy because we think you're fantastic on television, which is why it was good to see you yesterday. Great to see you right now.
And whatever happens in the future, we'll obviously support you. Friend of the program since the beginning.
Oh, yeah, Dan. They were talking WWE yesterday.
And getting in the... Oh, yeah.
You guys talked about Cena a little bit. I saw Jon Stewart talked about it as well i don't know if you saw that oh yeah that was brilliant yeah i did not pretty brilliant brilliant did you see that montage last day uh it was just look up john stewart yeah it's good it's worth the block he really he really brings it all together we'll do what hill turn like shook the wrestling world more the hogan one or the cena one so the hogan one was in wc w uh the cena one is a massive ordeal just strictly because it hasn't been it hasn't been publicly stated about hulk that he would never turn heel now granted it might happen in the sheets and everything like that but nowadays with how much coverage and social media and everything it's been addressed so many times that scene is never going to turn john cena is a guy that is always a good guy that is who he is and then he signs up for this retirement tour this one more tour and it's like okay everybody's going to get the john cena moment one last time and instead this is a brand new john cena this is a this is a heel john cena who sold his soul to the final boss Wow.
And it like now the next 10 months i'm excited to see what it looks like i have no idea how many times you think the rock practiced that how many times has he done it before a billion that was probably one he doesn't practice way to do it yeah he just goes out there is yes i didn't i didn't know was this dead and then peace is what he said yeah sent him his way brother I was thinking that's not the countdown It's been reported now there's a chance that there is a little You know there's a chance Because he gives one Two Three And it's like well Cena's thing is the three thing And then he does two there after the thing So what's the? Well, the one could be the only one. We need to go back and watch the tape and figure out who ruptured Cody's eardrum.
Yeah, that is being reported that Cody did rupture, blow his eardrum. He did? Yeah, we think.
We're not harpsichore, but we think. Did Travis Scott hit? We think.
We don't know if he ruptured his eardrum there or if he ruptured his eardrum, but he's being reported online. I do not know more than anybody else.
Legitimately, they don't tell me anything. But, yeah, it was reported that he ruptured his eardrum.
And I'll tell you what. I've had a hole in my eardrum for years and decades at this point yeah not fun it changes it is uh it is it is not a fun thing to deal with i believe when you're in buds to become a navy seal if you get a hole in your eardrum or rupture your eardrum they actually hold you back until the next one because underwater and all the different pressure and everything that is a part of it like it can really it can really water is where it really get you.
So Cody's going to be showering one-eyed, you know, potentially if the allegations are true. But it feels like Travis Scott can bring a smack if he needs to.
He can. All right, let's talk a little football, shall we, Dano? So I would say the Cena turn is the biggest, just strictly, because I think I was younger when the Hulk Hogan thing happened.
And certainly it was awesome because NWO was a fantastic run and doing it on Macho the way it went down. But now with how much it's been discussed and what we're in the middle of, 10 months left of this thing, I thought it was just like a come see the hustle, loyalty, respect guy like one last time.
And now it's the complete opposite, something we've never been told. Break a wish.
But I don't know, because didn't the hoaxer say he's still getting booed from... Riding dirty down in California.
That's a good point. That was the last time he was there, though.
Him and Holland Nash, last time he was in L.A. He was riding dirty.
Bad guys. Maybe that's why they booed him.
Anyways, let's move along to some football chatter, because we only got so many days left with the world. That's right.

That's sad, man.

Maybe, maybe, maybe.

Play the hits, brother.

Dano, I saw you getting a little bit emotional on television about Sam Darnold.

You're a believer in Sam Darnold.

You think he had two bad games at the end of the year?

Because we were talking at one point maybe he gets $50 million a year.

He's going to be the creme de la creme of this particular quarterback free agent circuit. Now, everybody's just assuming, I guess, the conversation is going to go back to the Vikings.
You know, the Giants allegedly met the number for Matthew Stafford. Will they meet the number for Sam Darnold then? Like, what are your thoughts on Sam Darnold, and what do you think it looks like for him next year? Yeah, it's kind of weird how ever since those last two games happened, it's been like the instead of celebrating Sam Darnold, it's been the yeah, but about Sam Darnold.
Did you see the last two games? And I kind of talked about it yesterday. If you go back to when Geno Smith went to Seattle and all of a sudden had that one awesome year, it was like, oh, you know, Geno can play.
And finally had the right stuff around and coaching and all that. And then Baker Mayfield gets cast away from Cleveland and he can't play and this guy guy stinks and all of a sudden he goes down to tampa i know he went to two quick stops but nothing glamorous he goes to tampa plays and it's like oh baker could play a little bit like jared goff as well like hey you know jared goff went from hey stinks to oh jared goff can play so i don't understand kind of a little bit of the sour narrative around sam um i think the But part, too, is those last two games, I'm not making excuses for him, but it's the first time he's been in it.
I guess that's the first time he's ever felt that as a pro, that pressure, that expectation. It was a little bit house money this past year because there wasn't certainly expectations going into the season.
I think for Sam the conversation so Minnesota if I was Minnesota it would start with Sam Darnold there's a line of demarcation that I would not cross and obviously not everyone's correct I heard Herbie say it like it does have what's your viewpoint of JJ McCarthy because it's not just Sam versus JJ it's Sam versus JJ and like 30 or 40 million the organization sits there and goes, Hey, we think JJ is going to be just as productive as Sam in the next year, year and a half. And we really need to take that 30 or 40 million and build up our secondary or build up our, you know, inside linebacker group or something.
And so if they believe that the JJ McCarthy plus the money gives them a better team J.J. is going to be similar production, there's a line that you don't go past.
I also, from Sam's perspective, Sam went through quarterback hell essentially for his first, I don't know, six years in the league. And how much does he really want to leave that cocoon, that insulation, that support that he has in Minnesota? Are you going to run and say, well, Minnesota's only offered me three for 100 and Pittsburgh's offering me four for 120? Is Pittsburgh, that $20 million, that much of a difference for you? Because the places, quarterback-friendly-wise, aren't even close.
So you'd be getting more average per year with the Vikings there. I think you'd'd take that one right four for 120 is 30 a year three for 100 is 33 you know what i'm we let's say well i'm just saying the deal that you put out there was one that i think he he's getting paid more at the vikings and he doesn't have to move and he's with kevin o'connell but i understand what you're saying for him do you want to leave same thing with matthew stafford do you want to get up and move do you want to do that entire thing yet again whenever you know you have success here the threshold is a very real convo i think probably with the vikings and sam donald i'm also excited to see jj with kevin o'connell if that is the case a lot of weapons a lot of success will they be able to do it again where sam go let's talk about another dom i've heard kevin loves i've heard kevin loves mccarthy loves him i think kevin would love anybody yeah i I think Kevin would love anybody.
I think he's like a great coach. I think he cares.
I think he's a great coach. I think he's a great ball coach over there.
He's got a great culture. Let's stay with the quarterback dominoes, though.
Go ahead, Conman. Yeah, Dana, what do you think about Rodgers? You know, he's kind of another one of those guys out there that, you know, let's assume he is playing.
Do you think there's one spot or a couple spots that line up perfectly for him and do you think that maybe teams will consider almost a package deal with tavanta not he's a free agent that they might be able to poach him as well if they were to sign rogers i think there's three spots that make sense for me and aaron rogers the giants the steelers and the titans i'll start with i'll start with the titans one if they're for some reason adamant that they're not going to take Cam Ward, I don't think they should do that. I think they should take Cam Ward.
But if they decide we're not taking Cam Ward and we're going to trade out of the number one pick or something like that, the reality is this. There is a little, and I love Callahan, their head coach.
I know Brian. He's going to have to win and he's going to have to have a quarterback play relatively well this season that's he was hired for that and so that's the reality of their business and so you know if they decide maybe it's Will Levis and Aaron competing against each other for that job I can understand that one the second one would be the Giants I said this yesterday like let's live in the world where um Cam Ward number one to Tennessee and then Cleveland takes Travis Hunter.
I think if Cam Ward goes number one to Tennessee, Cleveland should sprint to the podium for Travis Hunter at number two. So then the Giants at three.
Are you taking Shador at three? I think Shador is a good player. I do.
At three feels high. That's just my opinion right now.
We'll see if that changes over the next couple weeks. I don't think it will.
So then if you're the Giants, do you say, nope, we're going to go get, I don't know, maybe they trade down or something like that or whoever they pick at three. Again, if Travis Hunter was there, you'd run to the podium.
But then you go, well, let's take a player at three or trade down at three and then in the second round or maybe they go back into the first is it jackson dart or is it jalen milrow i go to i don't think jackson dart gets past the 20th pick in my opinion so if i think you're gonna have to go past the pittsburgh so if you're the giants i think you'll have to go back to the first round if you don don't, remember, Brian Dable has ties to Nick Saban. You guys have obviously, and Pat, you on game day, have heard Nick Saban talk about Milrow.
And I know he's flawed. I'm aware that he is flawed, but my goodness, there is a ton of talent physically there.
And you're then going, Dable and Shane, they got to win by November. And so can you sign Aaron for a brief period of time? He's your starting quarterback.
He keeps you afloat. And then if things are okay, or you want to change or Mill Road ready or something like that, then you have the next guy to go to.
And then if it's Pittsburgh and Justin and Russell, don't go back there. I still think they need to add a young kid, but Aaron would make sense.
Yes. Aaron, what a fascinating dilemma.
AJ, what do you think? He plays again, right? It's not like he's just going to retire? Yeah, I have a hard time seeing him just turn it off and stop playing. Why do you think that is? Every year that this has come up, you've given basically a similar answer, and I forget it, so I apologize.
He's at the end of a career. He's a Hall of Famer.
He's the wealthiest NFL player in the the history of anything he gets everything he does gets i mean absolutely crucified like do you think there's any chance he just says all right that's it yeah i mean i think there's i think everything's on the table with aaron you know that like we don't know exactly what he i'm sure i don't know if he knows exactly what he's going to do but i just you know being around him how competitive he is how well he can how well he played at the end of the season yeah i have a hard time believing that he's just gonna hang it up yeah i think that's the thing from my conversations with him and we've been very lucky to be friends with aaron rogers over the last five years and we don't hang out with him nearly as much or talk to him nearly as much as aj or anybody that played alongside of him and his teammates and everything like that but it's like everybody kind of talks about you know no kids no family this dude focused on ball everything he does is for ball like and you talk about why do you love the nfl and it's like i love the nfl because it is my outlet to scratch the itch of my competitive urge like he loves competition and it's like if you're that good still able to be that committed and another team is like hey we know it didn't go right with the Jets, but we think we have the right situation for you. I see him playing ball game.
I can't wait to watch it. I mean, what's his relationship with Tom like? Tom Brady? Brady, yeah.
Like my mind goes to end of Tom's career, Tampa. The overwhelming obvious thing was how good the offensive line was.
And then their success. He got beat up in New York.
So I would imagine he wants to go to a place that that is going to not be a concern. Like he's got to get tired of getting hit.
He got healthy to AJ's point after the, I don't know, November. And he started to play better because he was getting hit less.
So, you know, the Raiders got two really good young offensive linemen. I would also entertain, like, if they're able to – three.
Colton Miller is still good. So if they can get an offensive line piece in free agency, maybe that becomes also a destination.
I don't know what his and Tom's relationship is like, but I would imagine the number one thing is I got to be protected. Like, I don't want to get hit anymore.
Didn't they play catch during that golf thing? You were

no more than us, AJ.

Oh, and they did their version of the match?

Yeah, they seem to get along. I think they get along great.

I think there's a couple of those dudes that

can only have conversations with a couple of those dudes.

I think that

is... Peyton and Tom

get along. Vastly different people,

I think, the way they go about doing their thing, but they get along well. Aaron, vastly different than both of those guys.
But I assume that there is a, you know, like, hey, we are, we get it here. Yeah.
The Aaron, a little bit different. Our conversation's a little bit different.
Hey, have you seen every single defense over the last 30 years? Yeah, me too. Okay.
Have you beat every single defense? Yeah. Oh, me too.
Whenever you see this, what is this? Tom Brady being as hands-on as he is with the Raiders, that was an eye-opener for me. I think the quarterback's going to be in a good spot.
Let's say they don't go with veteran quarterback, though. Let's say they go with a young quarterback.
Ty, I have a question for you. Yeah, Dano, you just mentioned it a little bit there, and I assume you've looked at some of the tape at this point.
What are your thoughts on this year's QB draft class? And also, you had a tweet about Cam Ward where you basically said his tape wasn't as expected. Was that in a negative or a positive context? Yeah, big-time positive context.
I've watched basically every snap, maybe a game or two still of Cam's. me cam word reminds me a lot of Baker Mayfield what I mean by that is there is a a loose element to his game but a twitchy element to his game where that ball comes out like once his eyes tell him throw it it happens fast and that's a trait that I love in quarterback play like that was the thing with Jaden Daniels is how quick he played.
The thing that I was referencing in that tweet, and you guys are going to show us like these plays happen, like the run around plays. The thing that got me so much more excited about cam word and made me really appreciate how good of a player he is, is what he does from the pocket in timing.
You know, his, that throw was awesome. And so I wasn't expecting that tie.
Like I wasn't expecting this guy that from the pocket was so much more in rhythm in timing in with his feet and I mean those throws are awesome and so when I watch him throw up the middle field and the different types of throws and his the windows that he sees and when that back right foot hits that ball pops out of his hand like the playmaking is there and so that's like for me why I if I'm Tennessee and I remember I said this years ago when since he was on the number one pick with Joe like that this is what he does as good as gosh guys that have come out early in this draft over the past couple years that back right foot hits man and he puts that ball in between the numbers so lean sometimes there's a little touch sometimes it's driven and so the way he's married his feet with some of the throws I love um and the playmaking is there so um I like that he measured 60 like my only two downsides Ty would be this my only two I guess hesitations I'll go back to the story about Joe when I was like, if Cincinnati, I don't

care what the trade offer is, you're taking Joe Burrow. I don't care if someone offers you three first round picks, you are not moving off of it.
I'm not that close to where I was in regards to that situation, but I don't think Tennessee should move off number one. Okay.
I think the two hesitations are, I don't want to call them concerns, but the things he's six, two, I would love for him to be 6'4". Yes, he's

6'2". Okay, so it's not

a major problem, and then he will make you hold your breath at times um there are some moments where you're like what are you gonna do here and then more often than not it works out well in college i don't know if it how consistently would in the nfl but i think he's the clear clear clear clear for me clear number one pick Everybody has to hold their breath around other teams when Cam's playing Because they stinky dog They stinky They stinky That's what that means What the hell was that What'd you just do That's what this means Don't be throwing your heart out Don't be throwing your heart out He's't be throwing your heart out. He's not an elephant, Dan.
Jeez. Anyways, you talk about him being on time and everything like that, 6'2", and all that good stuff for Cam Ward.
His arm strength is obviously very much alive. You watch clips of him working out, love everything he's about.
What Cristobal says about what he did to that culture down there, just getting dropped in, flipping it, and just becoming a great culture all of a sudden out of nowhere, they give him a lot of credit for being able to rally, motivate, and unify. So all good qualities of a quarterback.
And he comes from an athletic family, too. His, I think, cousin or uncle is Quandre Diggs, whose brother is Quinton Jammer.
So, and I texted Quandre about him, like, tell me what kind of human he is. And Quandre's like, he's as much of a dog as I've ever been around.
Like, and he's an unbelievable leader, super hard worker. And he was like, honestly, the fact that he's in this position blows my mind because Quandre's going to be mad that I said this.
He's like, he's a kid. He sucked.
So he's got to. Well, he ended up at, I mean, yeah,

Incarnate Ward to Washington State to Miami

to potential number one overall pick.

It's like, got to work your ass off for that.

That would make sense to be a dog

if that was the trip that you had to take.

Tone has a question for you, Dan O.

Yeah, Dan, we learned last week

that when Chris Ballard talked

that they are going to have an open competition with Anthony Richardson for their starting quarterback. Who do you think that quarterback should be? Do you think that's a good sign for the number four overall pick, third year coming in? Okay.
It's not a good sign for Anthony. Yeah, we know.
That was kind of a loaded question at the end there. It's not surprising.
I think there's a lot of people on the table that aren're not gonna be able to spend a ton of money on guys um you know daniel jones obviously comes to mind because he might be cheap yep um good fit sam's not gonna go there aaron maybe you know again for a place that you feel needs some leadership and need some we got to go win. You know, I could see Aaron, Jameis.

No.

Jameis?

More.

Yeah.

Fields?

Jameis.

Hey, Jameis comes in.

That might be exactly what.

Yeah, I like the Justin one.

I like Justin in New York with the Jets a little bit better.

Because, I mean, if you're Indy, you want someone there, obviously.

Like, you want someone there to push Anthony, but you want Anthony to be the guy. So, you know, Justin is still such an unknown.
And I think Justin will have a better opportunity for a little bit more of a short starting position. A lot of things are here.
We know who's who. We know who's what, don't we? A lot of things kind of already been decided.
You know, we're looking for dogs. Need dogs.
Need more dogs i wish we could transfer portal our team just get a new one still there huh huh after combine still there i've heard more you have no idea i've heard i've heard more it's like they i don't know how they become professionals but hopefully they will you know for the good i was in buildings like that we usually lost every game when we were like that it's gonna be different this year yeah i got too much talent that's the issue though so much talent dude you had guys like showing up late and not just not you know do stuff that you should do when you're in third grade like just the basics they weren't doing bingo yeah just the simplest stuff like dude i remember we had guys that would come out to practice with sneakers on we were on grass now sneakers not turf shoes not cleats sneakers not tied so loose sneakers just shorts on not even like a girdle or anything and just a practice jersey with helmet unbuckled they would run a rep in practice probably do something pretty impressive because they were athletically talented they would take the ball throw it back to the coach and then walk back to the huddle take the next six or seven plays off give me a water bitch sounds like one guy yeah dude i remember we had guys not even like you know in the season you'd have a day or two where you got to get like your mandatory lift in pre or post practice or something. We'd have guys go into the weight room and not touch a weight.

Just stand there and not lift.

That's awesome.

There's these little losing culture things that happen.

You don't even think about it.

Like going into a workout.

You're a fucking professional athlete.

And just taking laps around, not lifting a weight, and then you're out of there. You just fuck the team.
Just walking fucking just walking around you just fucked it yeah you did not get better at all you're getting paid to be a football player this weight room will make you a better football player but instead saying not doing it and i'm not saying i've seen anybody take that particular tactic but it's all those little things they're like the professional things you know they say the little things lead to the big things take care of the little things the big things take of themselves. It's like those little things are what make you a professional.
That's what makes you a professional in this whole thing. I don't think it's just the Colts.
Obviously, it's alarming how much it seemingly is the Colts. But there is, and they can stop it, and they'll change it next year.
But I think it's happening in a lot of places, Dan. I think it's happening in a lot of places.
A lot more than it's ever been, obviously. McDaniel talked about it with the fines in Miami.
Oh, yeah. I wonder if it's an NIL thing.
Like, these guys are coming in with a little bit more money in their pockets? Name, name, name, name, name, image, likeness. There is a chance that yeah, there isn't a feeling of oh i can get cut you know or oh i'm lucky to be here instead it's complete opposite these motherfuckers are lucky i'm here yeah you know entitled yeah i was always scared yes to death yeah yeah like if i made one mistake i'm like all right i'm gonna get fired even in like my seventh year i was like yeah if i uh if If I don't do it, I'm going to get fired.
Even in my seventh year, I was like, yeah, if I don't do it,

I'm going to get fired.

Yeah, that's always a nice thing.

Adam Vinatieri thought if he missed a kick in practice,

he was going to get cut.

That's how I felt.

It was at the point where he was trying.

Yeah, you were right.

If you did miss a kick in practice, you probably were cut if I had to guess.

All right, Dana, this is it.

Last chance.

You make this 33-yard field goal.

Go ahead.

Yeah, you can keep your job. Hey, true you remember matt prater yes no yeah great kicker so they got to a point i don't know how it happened later in my career is what connor just said yeah yeah i got some prater stories now uh no way and we we related my career and something happened where i had to like.
I had to become the holder. And Sam Martin was holding for us.
I don't know what happened, but I had to, like, get reps and practice and holding. And I was terrible at it.
And I remember constantly Prater would get the snap, put it down, missed a kick, and Prater would just mother F me under his breath because then he started to, like shanks and all that. He was like, I'm going to get fired from you.
This guy's ruining my timing. This guy's obviously terrible at his job.
Not easy to hold, but you change that timing up just a little bit. So hard.
Two practices. I want a D-butt to be my holder.
I want a D-butt to be my holder because I was backup kicker in practice, and if something was to happen to Vinny, which could happen because he was getting older, even though I never did because he's a machine, he's absolutely a beast. 25 years in the biz doing his thing, whatever the case is.
But I want D-butt to be the whore. I'm like, D-butt, smoothest athlete I've ever seen.
I think that'll be the easy choice. This fucking guy sucks.
He was terrible? He was terrible. The laces are on the snap I just had an easy job Boop boop The crazy thing about snapping was You lean the ball Towards the goal post Is that accurate? Yeah and away from you That's a good call actually by D But not everybody wants the ball leaning towards the goal post someone is straight up and away from the kicker all right yeah that's a good call actually

by d but not everybody wants the ball leaning towards the goal post someone is straight up and down nobody wants it leaning back everybody wants i would be on lane yeah that's why you're not you know and hopefully that holds you accountable yeah hopefully good luck uh holder can miss a kick for the kicker though easily just sure like let's say holder hated the kicker just fucking just like that it's fucking miss say hey good luck good luck yeah you welcome me to make you lean it towards the kicker you lean the ball towards the kicker at all and it's a soccer style kicker which everybody is fucked that's you if that's anything over 30 yards that thing's hooking to the left it's just like nobody talks about it like and after watching these punting this punting workout at the combine where nobody could catch a football and then like these holds were like really slow like very very slow which is my message to the punters like you guys punt so well like these dudes are so good at punting footballs they just got to get comfortable catching a football you know because it's a little different sport they're used to punting the ball like whether it's Aussie Rose football it's coming up from the top catching up there a dart coming right at you or something coming right at you is a different style they can certainly learn how to do that but not everybody does but like or the holding how quickly you get it onto the ground this is D-Bot's problem D-Bot had too good of hands you know so that ball stuck to him. Stuck to him.
The ball's slow as shit down to the ground. So by the time the time comes to kick it, it's like balls down and you're kicking.
So you have no idea what it is. So the goal is to have good hands but not too good.
And just a fucking bum-bum. That ball's trying to get down to the ground as fast as possible.
So if Vinatieri has as much time to see his target that he's trying to hit, then let's not move that fucking thing either if the ball is moving while he kicks it miss if it's leaning toward am i right the great snappers the great snappers just snap the ball basically so you just have to go like this yes that's what they're judged on and there's the laces the laces are 99 out of 100 times already pointing at the goalpost. That's what you're aiming for.

The goal is for the laces to be from like 9 o'clock to 3 o'clock,

if you look at a clock, okay?

9 to 3, so then it's just like a little touch, a little easy portrayal.

That is what the long snappers are being judged for.

There's only 32 jobs.

So if you can't snap laces and you can't hit a button, your ass is gone.

And it's like I started talking to him.

You know those kids become a great long snapper?

Who?

Tannenbaums.

Really?

Like he said out of the blue.

He said the kid never even like played football.

And then like in the last year he started a long snap.

I think he's going to like Michigan for long snapping.

That's awesome.

That's a good angle to get in there too, especially if you're good.

You got to be consistent.

I assume he will be. I'm surprised Tannenbaum didn't try to trade him for a starting quarterback or something.
A long snapper for two starting quarterbacks. That's a Tannenbaum pitch draft proposal.
He's awesome. He's the best.
I don't know where the fuck this comes from, but we'll turn on the TV. Tannenbaum is trading two quarterbacks, defensive end for four picks, and three teams are involved that say they are not doing anything.
Yeah, the Rams were taking on Sean Watson's contract. Yeah, Watson! How about that? Let's need you.
Eat the contract for the Cleveland Browns and to get Myles Garrett. It's like he's been in those rooms, so he obviously knows the fantasy camp, I guess, that takes place with these trades.
But some of the things he puts up there, I'm like, who the fuck? They're unreal. Who the fuck? They're unreal.
What's that? They're unreal. Like yesterday when he said trade Michael Parsons for Miles Garrett, I was like, why not just pay Michael Parsons? Shut up, Dan.
That's not how it works. But I appreciate that he does it.
It gives us all fodder. He's the best.
He gives us all fodder. And the 33rd team, I believe, is becoming like a full-on consulting firm, you know? Good for them.
Good for everything they got operating. And Dano, last question here from D.
Butch, and it's about the current NFL, so let's get it right, please. And of course, Dan will.
I saw you mention, we were talking about Sean McVale yesterday, Stafford going back to the Rams. Obviously a huge deal.
But I still got Philly clear-cut as the best team in the NFC. I know we're pre-free agency, pre-draft.
But standing as it is right now, who is kind of nipping at their heels right now? Is it the Commies, Rams, Lions healthy? Who you got in the NFC right behind Philly? Or do you have someone coming in above Philly Philly next year no I think Philly's still the number one team roster wise and I would put the Rams at two obviously a lot can change for agency draft I go back to the regular season saying hey that's the team that they don't want to play and I remember Darius Slay last week or two weeks ago said that that was the team in their mind that they knew could beat them. They knew because of the style of ball and Stafford.

So I would put the Rams at two.

Listen, Detroit is outstanding, but I want to see what it looks like without Ben Johnson

there offensively.

It's still a great talent offensively.

I just don't know a ton about their new offensive coordinator, John Morton.

So Detroit there, I think Green Bay is still very much so just right there as well i think everyone puts the commanders there i'm not as high on that as i think the commanders and i said this yesterday d but you guys know it laud them praise them congrats awesome year we won five games on the last play that's not real in the nfl you win three of those and and that's that's not that real and so while you give them praise for that i also think they can't fall into the trap that maybe like the giants did a couple years ago in dable's first year when they somehow stumbled into the playoffs and like oh maybe we're closer than we thought we were and then you you make some decisions because you think maybe we're this move away or that move away. And I think the commanders have to have a mindset of, you know what, we're still building and we're still trying to chase down some of those teams to get into that upper grouping rather than there are some teams that you go, we're a move away.
We're a guy away. And I don't put the commanders in there just yet.
I still think I want to see what their makeup is post-free agency and draft. Let's not get too comfortable here.
You got a lot of sacks, but you also didn't get blocked for a bunch of times. So let's know that we can continue to get better here.
If you're the commanders, you got to feel good, especially bringing in Debo. I saw you love that move.
I saw you love that move. Yeah, no team throws more screens, perimeter screens, than Washington.
So if there's a guy in thefl that you want to get the ball to in his hands and just you go do something with it it's debo was it the player that he's been in the past last year there's a lot of reasons for that san francisco's offensive line pass protection is not what it was in years ago and the injury so i still and the versatility like they love you know like pace and space their offense runs no huddle so you could put a bunch of different people on the field and the defense is scrambling you could put him at the backfield. They love pace and space.
Their offense runs no huddle. So you can put a bunch of different people on the field.
And the defense is scrambling. You can put them at the backfield.
And so they love to run two backs. You can certainly utilize him in that capacity.
So if he's anything what he was in that three or four-year stretch, it's a home run for Washington. We're looking for some pace and space.
Pace and space. Pace and space.
Pace and space. Pace and space.
We're looking for some pace and race to races. Is that your coaching philosophy? Did you dive into that? Because it's potentially going to be coaching this year? With all your media stuff happening? I got two appearances next week.
Two appearances two weeks after that. I have really checked, but I got one appearance after that.
What are you doing for the draft, Dan? What are you doing for the draft, Dan? I think we'll be there. I think we would be out in Green Bay.
That must be nice. We won't be because the NFL doesn't want us there.
What? You heard it. If you saw the picture, Dan.
You should have seen it. No, I heard yesterday when you guys were making fun of D-Bet for wearing a fake golf course hat.
So I heard. Oh, wow.
It was a real golf course. He's still wearing it.
Interesting. Compton Country Club.
You would think it's fake. No, I know where you stand now, Dan.
Yeah, interesting that Dan Arlonski would take a shot at the Compton Country Club. Yeah, I never would have guessed that.
That makes sense. Never would have guessed that, huh? Connecticut? I can't be real.
Hey, bud, are you a member? It's too far, Dan. No, It doesn't mean it's not real.
I saw the golf swing on Instagram recently. It's looking good.
I wish I played as much golf as you, dude. It's coming as long.
You just took six weeks off. Yeah, if you stop crying.
What's the low number? Of course. Low number is 82.
Best game ever. Good play.
Good play. How about you? Well done.
What's your low play, Dan? I haven't played golf in forever. Yeah, but in your history, you obviously have a fucking low score.
Yeah, I think it's probably somewhere around. I honestly don't know.
I remember you lied about that. Remember that scorecard? I literally told the truth.
No, you lied. You had it wrong.
Anytime you see on a scorecard, you know the deal. I might be coming down to D-Butt's Neck of the Woods in a couple weeks for some golf.
Another vacation. Florida.
Maybe a little TGL. Oh.
You've been down there? I have not. It's getting less.
We got a couple of teams. Punched their playoff tickets.
You guys might be out on it. I know Fox is a full-on TGL mark right now, but I'm in.
I like it. I'll watch the clips for sure.
It's hard to keep up with when it's going. Yeah.
Tonight is the last regular season match. Tonight's got a lot on.
Tonight there's a lot on. They've been playing in the middle of the afternoon.
Yeah, they played at 3 o'clock. Day night doubleheader.
There's a lot on. You went to Hawaii, right? Yes, sir.
I was on the same island as you, Dano. I think there's a chance that Justin Trudeau just hit me.
There's a lot going on. You got Transylvania.
Hotel Transylvania. You ever see that, Dano? You got 10 kids.
There's four of them. They're all good.
Of the kids or the Transylvania? There's four Hotel Transylvanians. They're all good.
Yeah, I agree. It's Adam Sandler's best work.
Whoa, whoa. Hubie? That's extreme.
Hubie Halloween? You're right. You're right, you're right He's done some great things

He doesn't have any bad ones, really

Agreed, thank you

I'm happy you're on that side

Dano gets it right every once in a while

We can't wait to see you the next time you're on TV

Because we know those days are passing by

Like the sand of an hourglass

Let's enjoy every last drop of Dano Loves

Yeah, baby

Thank you, Dan

I'm going down to your neck of the woods

It's a golf

Don't fucking call me

Thank you, Dan. I'm going down to your neck of the woods to golf.

Don't fucking call me.

Compton Country Club?

That's not real.

I texted D-Bot to hang out when I was in Lottie.

Dottie told me to go fuck myself.

Really?

Funny enough, I texted D-Bot to hang out when I was in Miami.

He also said, yeah, maybe next year, pal.

That is not real.

Wow, racism a little bit.

A little weird.

Is it because they're white?

No.

Miami's far, number one.

Thank you. I didn't see what they hang out when I was in Miami.
He also said, yeah, maybe next year, pal. That is not real.
Wow, racism a little bit. A little weird.
Is it because they're white? No. Miami's far, number one.
And I miss my babies. I was home.
Everybody had me picking up, dropping off, practice, training. Volleyball.
A little golf after dropping them off. Did you get a pedicure I saw? Those are awesome, buddy.
Oh, yeah. Every time I take them, I sneak in there again.
I can't. The ladies look at me like, you can't?

Dude, they're so nice.

I got a pedicure with my mother.

It was the greatest thing.

I've tried my best.

I've done two of them.

They hurt so bad.

They hurt?

Yeah, uncomfortable.

I don't like any of it.

That's a bad, you got a bad technique.

No, I've done it like four different places, you know, because the wife goes to a spa and they just go to another spa and then somebody will be like, let's go to a pedicure.

I think Vinatieri took me for a pedicure one time because she was like, we got to take

care of her feet. I got her.
I've never been more uncomfortable. What? They're like, ah, don't touch my feet.
I don't like it. And when they're doing that, it feels like they're actually sawing my toe off.
I'm like, get me out of here. I don't like it.
I don't like it. You want the calf? Yeah, that was the only thing that felt good when they weren't touching my feet.
You had the hot coals? I think they had a hot bag of wax or something like that. Oh, yeah.
A bag of wax. That was pretty cool.
You had the rocks. When they weren't touching my feet, it was great.
Everything other than when they were touching my feet. Sure.
It's a big part. It was cool.
It was cool. It was cool to be a part of.
Miami's so far. It is.
I don't know how you were traveling down there and back so much. You still are.
That place is so far away. The traffic in Miami, I experienced it for the first time.
It was bananas. Gum also came back and first comes, he's like, there's no way to Dolphins win.
I spent five days in Miami. Dolphins got no shot at winning football.
A lot of distractions. No way, man.
A lot of distractions. God rest his soul, Vontae Davis when he got got traded to the Colts, was awesome, obviously, the moment.
Got to call my grandma. And then he comes to the Colts, and we had just seen that as well.
So we had no idea what to expect. Then he got a chance to start talking to Vontae and everything.
And he talks about how Indianapolis saved him. Like being in Miami was, hey, there was a lot going on.
A lot of options options a lot of options and i'd hear these stories uh from him whether we're in a training room or in one of the tubs you know kind of in there just passing time trying not to be as miserable and i just talked to myself every time boy real happy bad actually never got sent down to miami at that age at that time a of opportunity. A lot of opportunity down there.
Everything is easy

to garner down there.

It's readily available from what I've been

told. After your guys' trip

down there and after you

watch what happens with these Dolphins teams,

it's like money,

opportunity,

warm weather all the time.

Just like when you're staying

in a hotel in a casino, okay?

You know, the casino floor, you're, let's say, 10 floors above it or whatever.

It's calling.

You can hear it, actually, through the things going,

a million dollars is down here.

And you're laying in your bed, you can't sleep.

It's like, I'm going to go down to the casino.

At the Miami Dolphins, you have the beach, all their bars,

all their adult ballet slash bars, all their other things, just calling at all times. Hey, just one drink.
Just come do one drink. And then bang, that's at like 5 o'clock.
And one thing leads to another, you're on vacation for your entire life and you're a professional football player. That's right.
For them to win, they're going to have to get the right people to honor. That's going to be easy.
It's a vets. You're going to need married, old people that are worried about hangovers.
Like the golf. Yes.
Golf, yes. Retirement.
Yeah, yeah. Community type.
Tyreek Hill. Yeah.
See. Just like him.
He almost won for 2,000 yards down there. Good for him.
Yeah. He did.
Good for him. I was winning for a tour and playing chess.
Combs, you picking another team? Never mind. No, no I am finished till the day I die, brother.
No chance of them winning, but fuck it. Hey, I've done it my whole life.
If there's ever a point. Yeah, but now there's a new piece of information.
Yeah, but think about if they win a Super Bowl and I turned, I could never sleep at night. I think you're safe.
Why is two playing chess on board with no squares? What's that? Did you see that? I think there was little lines on it. But did you see the tweet, though? I did, yeah, I did.
I believe it was from the Trump family posted it that Tua was pulling. Oh, that was the original tweet, yeah.
Yeah. But the quote tweet.
Yeah, I saw a lot of quote tweets. Yeah, the quote tweet, I believe, and then there was many others that took their shots and that's the internet, welcome football.
That sounds good. But I think there was little lines because i was very flabbergasted i zoomed what was going on i think there was like little tiny lines i'm like wow you gotta be really good at what's up with the pieces that's my question oh there are yeah you can definitely from that is that a different angle i think you zoom in there's like little tiny you see like little lines there yeah you can see the dots of like where the corners are it's still not a good chess board no Absolutely not.
You've got to be really good at chess to be on a board that isn't an actual board. Without a doubt.
That's why Tua's playing. Well, Tua's a chess player.
Always has been. Always will be.
Show me my money. Give me my money.
That's how the season started. Oh, yeah.
That's how the season started. Boy.
Arrested on the way to the first game of the season at home. Like, we never had a shot last year, dude.

You know what?

Next year's the year, Gubs.

You're right.

There we go.

Got no money to spend, but we're going to give her all we got.

Got no money spent in Miami's awake.

Always.

There you go.

That traffic is crazy.

Not supposed to have that many people down there, huh?

As soon as you – it's one, it goes like four different highways.

It's like you get there, you can be three miles from your spot it's gonna take you an hour four yeah 40 at least it is so annoying you just walk right that's what you did uh no we couldn't like you had to get on the highway to get around to some spots but yeah once you get to your first location you can walk to the other locations but it's legitimately impossible to not take an Uber at least once a day. These flying cars need to pick it up.
Don't you think? For sure. 100%.
I don't know if we're ever going to be able to use those. Well, I've seen a lot of memes and videos.
A little flying drones. I'm talking about the little drone where you can sit in one or two people and it'll take you.
Yeah, or hang on like your Tom Cruise.

Yeah.

I mean, that'd be sweet too.

Yeah, you better have some good grip strength.

Yeah, we would, obviously. You could latch in like David Boyd.

They got cars.

The balloons.

Choppers in them.

When I sent you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Boom.

Bang.

Chopper in the trunk.

And then I saw one car that just was car build.

Had drones on like basically all four sides at the bottom. And it went up and over some traffic, I think.
But you never know what's animated AI. No, you don't.
And those people who can drive cars can definitely drive planes. I think you would probably have to prove some sort of ability to be in the sky.
Yeah, I mean, we got Mitt up there. Yeah, people will do that.
I don't know if Mitt's ever going to be in a flying car. Let's get close to the monument.
Do you want to be in the skies? Here it is right here. Actually going over a car.
That's what we're looking for right there. Well, that one might be a few years out.
Company releases first flying car. Look at it.
You can see it. It's taken off.
There's a human in there. That's real.
This is our life. So what situation is this used in? I'm in Miami.
I just got downtown. I'm three miles away.
They said it's going to take an hour. And I said, you know what? Me and my Aliff aeronautics are fucking going up and down.
Right to whatever place the boys stop by. If you're driving on a highway and a tree fell down and you have to go across.
That is a secret. You ollie.
Yeah, you're doing an ollie or a bunny hop, basically. Or if the roads are snowy.
Okay. Okay, you're going to have to come down some point.
This isn't real video, is it? My park rear spot. What are you talking about? Highway home.
Bingo. Keep dreaming, boys.
What about parallel parking? No more. I'm fucking up and I'm down.
Pick it up. Put it down.
That's what I'm doing with this thing. Look at that.
Smooth landing. Much smoother than something we've seen.
Yeah, I can move up 12 feet. Oh, look.
Oh, looky, looky. There's an 18-wheeler down.
Well, that sucks for everybody but who? You. Look at that.
So real. You're being the coolest guy at school.
Cops are on the other side saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, we're stopping traffic on the ground. Okay.
I'm in the fucking sky, dude. Altitude, 13 feet.
I'm out of here. That's the future.
We're lucky to be a part of it, hopefully. That's the future.
That's the future. All right.
Let's get to a break. We'll be back tomorrow.
Pretty big show today. Yeah.
Awesome. That's a huge show.
Broke some news. Insider.
Thought that news was coming last week. Did everyone report it properly? Well, so, Schefter actually got the tweet out about a half minute before us.
Because we did the video, then the tweet. Now, granted, we talked about it on the show before Schefter got the tweet out.
Hurt his ears up. So, no, no.
We did the break on show. Oh, and then he.
Before his tweet goes up. Our tweet goes out one minute out with video that had to be ripped and placed onto thing.
So technically our show broke news. But on the Twitter world, Shefty got us by 30 seconds.
That bitch! I saw Rap gave us credit. Yeah, because I think we did break the news.
I should have done no video and then added video. Maybe next time.
Gumby, what you do with our accounts while we're live is nothing short of remarkable. Don't you second guess yourself.
Hell yeah. You did the right thing.
You did the right thing. Because we got to give proper context with the release.
Bingo. But the ripping of the video, placing of the video, uploading uploading said video then tweeting video is certainly the time that it took to potentially get one minuted by Schefter but program broke news first boom definitely we stand on that's what counts so maybe proper credit maybe are we doing journalism also how about this there was a story that was supposed to be matter-of-facted last week while we were at the Combine.
Bill Belichick and UNC, they're doing this season's offseason hard knocks. Congratulations to them.
Everybody just fucking, yeah. Just reported like this is happening.
Literally, just, yeah, this is happening. They're doing it.
We're going to get an inside look at Bill Belichick. People then start saying after every NFL team said no, they had to college and they go to Bill Belichick the greatest NFL coach of all time as he's trying to build the future like full reports were happening that this is taking place then we have Michael Lombardi on our show the same exact day he's the general manager for the North Carolina Tar Heel football team and this is what he had to say about it you guys have it this year is that accurate you accurate? You guys got a great relationship with NFL Films.
It would make sense, too, with how college ball is becoming pro ball at this exact time. I think there's a lot of conversations going on right now about that.
I think we've had a lot of offers from people all over to have us come in and look at our program and kind of do the behind-the-scenes things. I don't think anything's yet been official or signed to make it happen.
Don't let Saquon go. Who would it be? Yeah, don't do that.
Would it be you? Would it be you negotiating that, or who's making that decision? No, that would be the university. And we've got to make sure, you know, when you're dealing with the university and the brand that we have at North Carolina, which is incredible, you've got to make sure that everything's done right, all the T's are crossed.
And obviously, Bill has been talking to to different people that contacted all of us here and and bill's been sorting it out so so on the program he basically says like we're definitely talking to people but this is not something that is done people still just continue to say like even after he talked about that on our show okay i think we're on tv the internet we posted it on digital uh people just kept going like didn't even happen guy didn't even say nope they're doing it they're doing it they're doing it just kept on just this guy didn't fucking say anything boom we're gonna roll by so now it's being reported in a turn of events okay jonathan jones report in a turn of events unc football and bill belichick will not be participating in hard knocks off season after talks break down more at nfl. We appreciate Jonathan Jones.
And in an article, they actually use a quote from Michael Lombardi from last week whenever they're discussing this. So it's not a turn of events.
The actuality was they maybe were talking to him, but it was never something that was decided. And the thing that I love is that that was easily deciphered from Michael Lombardi, who's very close to the thing.
You think they because it's from our show you think that's what it is hey do you think it's because it's from our show we're not fucking listening to this guy what do you think it is honestly i mean when you hear lombo say nothing is signed i would assume that's like okay then we we don't know anything really well and also i'm saying we're talking to a lot of people it's like yeah maybe there's been conversations with nfl films but there been a lot of conversations. And it's like everybody's just like, ah, shut up, dude.
You guys are the general manager of the guy, Dave. Yeah, wrong.
You guys are pretty much in there. Who's negotiating this? Well, Bill obviously is fielding off it, but the school was a part of it.
It's like, okay, so you know this pretty well. But it was just a matter of fact that they were doing it.
I was excited. Yeah.
I was, like, pumped to get into a bit of recruiting. That Lombo wasn't.
I assume Lombo didn't want any added distractions, especially after what happened with the Giants last year with the way he chit-chatted about it. Now, the way he's talked about it is like, hey, your program's on display.
Like, how you go about doing it, your process is on display. So I think he's probably confident in that.
But nonetheless, everybody was just talking about that as that was happening. And I got real excited.
And then Lombo comes in and is like... Easy.
Don't think so. And then now it's like, no.
It's like, damn. So the offseason hard knocks is dead.
Yes. One and done.
Which we knew was probably going to happen. Yeah, but when we said it, we said it was some sort of joke.
So it's not a real thing. Go for somebody.
Gave some good clips. Great.

Saquon was on, what, two deals?

Yeah.

Never forget.

Two ball offense.

The Giants are not recommending it to anybody.

No.

You know?

Hey, tell me about your experience with the Hard Knocks offseason.

Joe Shane looks at him.

Did you fucking watch?

Yeah.

Rude my life.

Hated it.

Worst case scenario.

What's the worst case scenario in your eyes? Think of that, double it. People think my kid's smarter than me now.
Yeah, because the kid actually had it right. He was sitting behind me.
My daughter even closer than I was. But I mean, everything bad took place.
And it was all documented and the whole world watched it. So, I would say don't do it.
We have some breaking news from the internet happening. The NBA Twitter account was hacked, and they have gotten it back.
I believe the NBA have gotten it back. The NBA has taken the game to the next level, introducing NBA coin, our official digital asset on Solana, designed to enhance fan engagement and future of sports transactions.
So this tweeted i guess like 50 times so some crypto uh boys got into the nba twitter account and say you know what we're gonna run this nba coin up it's gonna be a pump and dump from the boys hoping to catch people and we would assume that nba twitter okay which had a much better name before but it saw me to be the one that continues to bring that up I don't think we should ever change it. It's the greatest place on earth.
Greatest place on Twitter. Most electrifying place on Twitter.
No doubt. I assume their quote tweets of that.
Oh. Probably pretty good.
Oh, my God. Just crypto boys trying to get into the NBA.
I mean. They even did an official announcement, too, with it.
Like a letterhead and everything.

They did it right.

Yeah.

I mean, the hackers are getting smart.

You know, and AI is able to make a graphic for you quickly.

And we are scrolling right now.

There is a lot of these tweets going on with a statement official announcement.

That's crazy.

Genius.

What's real?

Hey, got to keep your head on a swivel eye.

Okay.

Not only in Starbucks because there's Schultz's walking around.

They literally own the place. But also on the internet because anything can be fake.
Like that flying car might be fake. We don't know.
Maybe. It just might.
It's TBD. I think it's definitely fake.
I think we can. Like the fire truck's real for sure.
You're talking about when it got over the 18-wheeler that was turned sideways? That was a giveaway. I don't know about that.
They had me up until the end. No, it was a drone shot.
It'd be so cool to be able to fly 10 feet in the air and 20 feet forward. That'd be really worth a million dollars.
Well, in Miami, which is what we were talking about, it would certainly be great. Yeah, this...
That's a cool car, too. Sorry, yeah.
That was sweet. Flying through the air right now? That's what I'm thinking.
Look at all the dust being brought up by all the force. No, that's just the weather.
That's not from the... Is that car broken down? Is that why it's flying over it? That car was parked in a spot that it shouldn't be and wanted to alpha it.
Just let it know. You might have the ground space.
I got the air space. Here it is.
It's the real one. Well, this is the issue.
First of all, T's and P's to the truck driver and the goods. Someone's dead.
It's cool that it's translucent, too. That one might be a rendering.
No. Bruce! Liar.
Liar. That one might be...
That brings another question, though. Hmm.
So I know we probably all got a lot of us here have the cameras in the car. Yeah, sure.
How did he get that above the head shot? I don't know. It's awesome, though.
It's the one. Yes.
I think it's a compilation of all the cameras, and they just kind of bring it together to make it look like it's sweet, though. We have breaking news from Adam Schefter.
We did not get this one. Damn it.
The Packers and kicker Brandon McBannis have reached an agreement on a three-year $15.3 million deal, including $5 million signing bonus. The deal was negotiated by Drew and Jason Rosenhouse.
Congratulations, Cineboys. Brandon McManus obviously had a false allegation made against him that he was found completely innocent of but had to move to a different team.
Was once a Super Bowl champion with the Broncos. Goes to the Jags.
Everything happens there. Ends abruptly.
Thinks his entire career and life is probably over. Instead, gets vindicated in the court, I believe, from both the NFL and the actual court.
Ends up signing with the Packers. Goes on a hell of a run with the Packers, playing winning football.
And now he's getting rewarded for it. What a turn of events for Brandon McManus, the person, I would assume, over the last 12 months.
But also for the Packers, you guys got a guy. That's good news, Ty.
Yeah, no, I'm jacked up. I was kind of waiting for this, hoping that this would happen.
I think he had like three game-winning kicks this year, and it really was. I mean, going back to the playoffs last year, that kind of killed them against the Niners.
Like, they've needed a guy ever since Crosby left. So, yeah, this is huge news.
I love it. AJ, I love Guthikins rewarding good players out there.

That's the story of the day.

That's right.

Yep, that's it.

Do the right thing and get rewarded.

Hell yeah.

Hell yeah.

That's life.

That's life.

Yeah, it is.

That's the universe.

They say it's science.

Put good out, good comes back.

That's right.

Put bad out, bad comes back

Not for everybody though it seems like

Because there's some real piece of shit out there

Thank you

No doubt

Okay

Got it

Be a friend, tell a friend something nice

It might change your life, we're in this thing together

We're back tomorrow

Team on me, Team on three.

One, two, three. Team.
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