PMS 2.0 1299 - NFL Combine Recap, Rams Head Coach Sean McVay, Justin Jefferson, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

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On this majestic overreaction Monday, March 3rd, 2025, this program starts now. Sports! Our magical and we're lucky that we get to talk about them every single day right here on ESPN, ESPN+, Disney+, YouTube, and TikTok Live.
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We'll be bumped to ESPN 2 for spring training baseball, which ESPN is lucky to have. Let's go to the Talks at the Table.
I have boss Connor and Ty Schmidt. Did we know that spring training baseball is happening right now? I certainly did, but I did not think we would be getting bumped to the deuce for spring training baseball.
Red Sox, Orioles. It's a big tilt.
That's huge. It's a big tilt.
It's a massive tilt. There's a chance.
I don't know who's going to play. Usually a lot of these spring training games, you're getting about, I don't know, 10 to 15 guys who will not be on the big club in the summer.
These guys are kind of just getting their juice out there. Shout out to baseball, though.
Baseball is back. Shout out to sports.
Shout out to sports. Found that out about five minutes before we went live, and I was like, hey, it's all good.
We're excited the sports are happening because the football season is done, but the football drama is only kicking off even more. Now, we're fresh out of a combine weekend, and we'll break down who had a big-time weekend here in Indianapolis, and who may be faltered a little bit, Will Howard.
Who is potentially going to be moving up in draft stock? And who's potentially going to be falling back to being an insurance salesman? We shall see in the middle of this drama time. Now, there are some teams that potentially are going to make some cuts or some moves because of a salary cap adjustment.
We're in the middle of a lot of action right now. Speaking of, we'll be talking to Sean McVay, head coach of the Los Angeles Rams, in about 13 minutes or so.
Massive story out of last week is Matthew Stafford is back with the Los Angeles Rams. We'll ask him about how we got there.
What was the conversation like with Matthew on Friday morning that led to him getting extended, getting more money, and coming back to the Rams, who were just one play away from beating the Philadelphia Eagles in the NFC Divisional Round. Then in the second hour, we'll be joined by Justin Jefferson.
He's launching something something that's incredibly cool called flight school where it'll be uh invitation to high school wide receivers

to come do one-on-one workouts and uh basically like an elite 11 manning passing academy type

thing for wide receivers we do not know all the ins and outs of it but he is obviously best wide

receiver in the league but if he was to team up with his other other lsu guys just lsu guys

you're talking about jamar chase malik neighbors let alone if odell beckham jr was to team up with his other LSU guys, just LSU guys, you're talking about Jamar Chase, Malik Neighbors, let alone if Odell Beckham Jr. was to come back, everything else.
Mason Taylor, Jason Taylor's son, who ran the perfect gauntlet at one point straight down the line with it. If it's just an LSU thing or if it's just a Justin Jefferson thing, this is great for the future of football.
We'll also talk to him about the situation currently happening in Minnesota. Who's going to be their quarterback? Speaking of quarterbacks, a lot has happened over the weekend.
We'll chit-chat about it all. Now, at Boston, Connor, sitting there next to Ty Schmidt, Combine weekend is a glorious one.
What's your big takeaway from Indianapolis? My big takeaway is probably that the more we shit on these guys, the less they're going to do it. We talk about how bad we want everyone to go throw, everyone to go compete.
Basically, it was a big time, oh, Will Howard's the guy this weekend, it felt like. People just sarcastically burying him.
Hey, if we do this, we're going to continue to get a combine that's just watered down that no one does. And then when it gets to pro days, what are we going to say? Well, this was just a routine.
They do this every single day. You can't really you know prove anything at a pro day anyways who cares I think everyone just needs to take a deep breath you know you you uh retweeted a post about Sean Mc or not Sean McVay excuse me Sean Payton talking about Bo Nix and that kind of I don't remember that from last year but that was a really cool little insight about you know Sean Payton basically saying this about Bo Nix from his Combine day last year.
I believe he was talking to Peter Schrager. Did you know sean payton basically saying this about bo nicks from his combine day last year i believe he was talking to peter schrager did you know then that bo nicks was the guy um we didn't at that time i would say that decision um probably was finalized or we felt real strong wasn't just the we had a pro day on friday and then sat Saturday we had a private workout.
And I think that Saturday after this private workout, we felt like that was our target. Yeah, at this time, at this point in time, we didn't.
And he really didn't throw well. Is that right? Yeah.
You remember? Meaning, well, here are a couple things. I can recall, so for years in our league, the footballs were never broken in.
They'd come right out of the box. That's a challenge for a college quarterback.
I mean, they're slippery. They're not broken in.
And then you get in here, the temperature maybe is a little cooler than you think. It's air-conditioned.
And so learning all of those things, getting adjusted to that. Don Yee's obviously an agent that I've worked with throughout my career and he had this young quarterback tom brady and he asked me can you call tom and just tell him what to expect at the combine and this was like a favor and yeah there was no the the prep that they have now is is so much different than just 20 years ago and the understanding of what's to be expected, how to handle the interviews, how to handle the medical part of it, how to handle these drills.
I've seen players that have bad ball skills that are outstanding through the gauntlet, and they've just worked on it so much. So again, it comes back to the medical information that's most important, and then the interview.
All right. Congrats.
Another playoff season, and we'll see what happens next year. I appreciate you coming down here on the field.
It's nice to be down here and see some live action, right? Absolutely. Yeah, the suites are fine, but back in the old Hoosier Dome, this is where you went out the exit, and it was inflated.
So your hair was kind of static cling and everything. That was a good setup.
All right, Sean Payton. Great breakdown of the combine as a whole, but I think what you're saying is nothing that we know now is necessarily what's going to be the case whenever it comes draft time.
A lot of meetings, a lot of still road to the draft is what you're referring to, Con Man. Yeah, exactly.
Plenty still to be proven, and there's nothing better than a Pete Schrager laugh at the combine. Long Schrager.
It was good to see Schrager. Great to see Schrager.
He is the man. Pete, Pete, Pete Schrager.
Did you see him? Oh, yeah. He looks great.
He does. And he's over in LA a little bit more now, so I think there's always a chance, but he's still bringing it, as always.
He is, but Sean Payton talking about how Bo Nix wasn't even really their guy, and then obviously they have meetings have meetings that they get rolling he becomes that that's a big piece whenever we're judging these guys fresh out of the combine and yes i'm talking about will howard okay i'm at elimination chamber what an event what an event what an event we will certainly talk about it why john why john because john's looking to become the all-time leader in world championships in the history of the WWE.

You know, and the final boss always has a plan.

I don't want to dive into it too much right now.

We will certainly talk about it at some point.

Great kick to the dick of Cody Rhodes. I mean, just perfect form, knee drive, straight into the X.

Boom!

Right into Cody.

And then Travis Scott really brought one down.

He did.

With some sage in hand, smack in the face. And then the final boss, given the kill sign, certainly interesting with the two up there.
I mean, there's a lot to be said about Elimination Chamber. Also, to Canada, I was like, yeah, I mean, oh, no.
You saw a soul get sold right there. No, John.
Oh, no, John. Sound, sound, sound, sound.
No sound. sound okay miss it this is the pop of that place whenever he kicks him square in the balls is absurd because i think a lot of people you know maybe missed the face that john cena gave to the rock because it was on a jumbotron over here so not everybody in the uh rogers center kind of knew what was taking place everybody at home kind of maybe knew a little bit In the place, I think some people saw it.
You see a guy in the back, he sees the video because there's a jumbotron. You see him go, no, no, no.
And then whenever John kicks him, I think it was a massive surprise at the moment in the arena, obviously. Massive surprise to the world.
And something that none of us could have ever expected with John Cena. You know, John Cena's made a living on hustle, loyalty, and respect.
He has given out the most make-a-wishes in the history of make-a-wish. Now everybody's saying this guy's breaking wishes.
He's break-a-wish. And he kicks Cody Rhodes, the American nightmare, after he tells The Rock to go fuck himself right in the balls and solidifies himself as a bad guy going into WrestleMania after winning the Elimination Chamber, which he said he was going to do at the Royal Rumble.
And he even said it was best for business, which all of these clues were there that this was going to happen. And we're just sitting along for the ride.
I had no clue what was going to happen. Obviously, they would never tell me anything.
I'm the lowest member of the totem pole. I don't think anybody really had a clue what was about to happen.
And nobody could have expected, which is why it was such a magical ending to El chamber now cody rhodes got punched in the face with his own rolex that's tough it's tough for that to happen 40 000 right to the face from john cena and how long has john cena been waiting to do this oh man let out a little bit of aggression you know because there was a time where cena's super good guy he comes out and they let's go Cena. And then the other half of the place would go, Cena sucks.
He's like, I'm here every night. I literally commit my entire life to this thing.
20 years I show up, taking bumps, beating up my body, saying no to everything else. And some of the WWE universe would boo him and say that he sucked.
Now he gets a chance to kind of take out all that anger and frustration. And we watched it.
He bumped Cody in the head multiple times with a title that he's going to try to win for the 17th time at WrestleMania. The final boss couldn't have been more confident.
And Travis Scott just living a dream over there. Travis Scott's like, welcome to the crew, you know, to John Cena.
What a moment. I was lucky to be there.
Now, Canada. Listen, there's been something said to me from Canadians that I, uh, I guess I respect because of the passion that you have for your country, which I hope you understand that I was showing the same for mine.
You booed my country. Now I heard from a lot of Canadians, uh, during the national anthem, obviously the Roger center, overwhelming boo.
I mean, very loud boo first reaction. Whenever national anthem starts up there was for some of these Canadians just to start booing.
And I'm like, what? Okay. My entire life, my first reaction when somebody boos a national anthem is, fuck you.
That is my... I'm very thankful that I am from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania in the United States of America.
I'm very proud that I am from the United States of America. And is everything perfect? Absolutely not.
But my dad went from being a truck driver to a millionaire because he taught his son a work ethic and that anything is possible on this land here in the United States. Now, I know that we're not the only country that has that happen, but in my life, that is the case.
I've also moved out here to Indiana and got a chance to meet a lot of military members. I've been to a lot of bases.
I know gold star families. I know people that have been affected for fighting for our country that really see the national anthem as like our, hey, this is our shit.
So anytime I've ever heard somebody boo our national anthem, my natural reaction is let's fight. That is literally my natural reaction.
Now, a lot of Canadians have told me, why don't you do a little investigating on why we're booing? Okay, do you hear what your president said? Okay, listen, I understand there's political differences at the current moment between us and Canada. But I feel like anytime I think of Canada, I don't think of what Justin Trudeau does.
I don't think immediately of Justin Trudeau's decisions. I don't think immediately of what Canada is doing in the political sphere.
I think of the people of Canada. I think of Gumpy.
think of Poutine I think of the magical times that I had up in Niagara Falls as a teenager at the wild mushroom the old casino the new casino It was not even talk about the adult ballets that maybe introduced me to a lot of things in life I think about loonies and toonies in good times in Mounties allowing teenagers Puke in their streets because maybe we're a little bit over served That's what I think of when i think of canada i don't think of justin trudeau okay so i understand now from the canadians that they have a lot more passion for their country than i could have ever imagined a lot of terrible things have been said about me and i understand it you boo my country i called your country terrible let's shake hands okay you said you didn't boo every member of the united states or every citizen united states of america well i didn didn't say that Canadians were terrible. I said your country was.
So you booed us. I said you're terrible.
Let's shake hands. Let's move along.
There you go. That's what I would like to say.
And I still love Canadians. We got one in the building.
Literally hired right off of a ship painting job in the Northwest Canada. Brought him in.
His diction, his words he says the way he says things i think exemplifies what canadians are as a whole his attitude his peace everything like that so i don't i love canadians but my first reaction whenever you boo our country is okay let's fight and i i'm sorry so let's go shake their hands canada boom i hope it gets settled now i will do a lot more research into the political preferences of every country that is in part of a sporting event where there's going to be a national anthem because if that's what we're booing people for or booing anthems for i didn't know that was the precedent going forward but okay we all understand that now with that being said what an event in the rogers center oh man what an. Both Elimination Chambers, Jade doing her thing.
I mean, it was a magical night up there. And it ended with that, staring us down.
Now, Travis Scott is right over the shoulder there, which a lot of people were wondering about, but I thought he looked hilarious in there. But it was a magical night up there.
And I was lucky to be there, lucky to be a part of it. I love any time I get a chance to work for the WWE.
With that being said, I look down at my phone, and I get a text in the group text while I'm in the middle of this. And it's from Bailey McComas.
And it's a clip from the NFL saying, Will Howard's having a day. So I look down, and I'm so pumped.
I'm like, let's go, Will. Let's go, Will.
Retweet that thing. Send that thing out.
And I watch the first couple highlights. I'm like, that's good ball.
That's good timing. That's great timing.
This is what the NFL posted. That's good ball leading the guy.
Now, granted, a little bit of an overthrow, but if that guy's a little bit faster, maybe not an overthrow, maybe if he runs a different round, not an overthrow, drops in a bucket right there. How could you ask for anything better? Ball's coming out of his hand pretty well.
How much strength does he have? Well, he throws a deep ball to a guy. That's on a line.
I'm like, watching these clips. I'm like, holy shit.
Will Howard had a damn day. Turns out they really cherry-picked these.
Will Howard had a terrible day. Will Howard had a terrible day out there.
And I'm still a believer. But that's why that Sean Payton video is so important.
We have no idea what's going to take place going forward. But we are appreciative to everybody that worked out.
Everybody that did their thing. On that note, one half of the hammer, Cowboys, AP Tone.
And back with us, ladies and gentlemen, nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler here.
D-Butch, great to see you. Glad to be back.
You look so cool. Very thankful you are back.
Tone, D-Butch, who are some of the guys that we need to think about over the weekend for the combine who had a good one as opposed to, you know, the ones that people are talking about saying, these guys might be selling maybe jeans at Hollister coming forward. Yeah, let's go back to Thursday where it all started with the D-line and the linebackers.
It started with Landon Jackson who was 6'6", 270, jumped 40.5 inches and ran a 4'6", was just insane. James Pierce later that day, the edge out of Tennessee, he ran a 4'47 at 2445.
He is going to lock in as a first-rounder. And the winner of that day on Thursday was Texas A&M D lineman Shamar Stewart, who basically had the exact same numbers as Miles Garrett, working out at the Combine.
The 40-inch vert was 6'5-2-70, 10-11 on the broad end, and ran a 4-6-40 D-Bucks. Yeah, absolute freak show.
Now, the question here you guys talked about on the show last week, you know, production, production questions about how do you only have four and a half sacks in three years in college. But even with that being said, he'll still be a top 10, top 15 pick.
When you put on a show like that, you have those measurables. You have that freak show over showing at the combine.
You will go top 10, top 15 because these coaches, these GMs will take a chance on you yeah let's go to uh friday when it was the tight ends and dbs pat mentioned uh mason taylor who was awesome uh also tight end terrence ferguson we talked about him on friday out of oregon he tested he was the number one tight end in all testing he dominated and then nick emanwari uh the safety out of south carolina just an absolute freak he was 6'3 220 with 220 with a 43 inch vert. He ran a 4.38.
He was absolutely moving. The fastest DB of the day, who we actually talked about on Friday as well, was Maxwell Harrison out of Kentucky.
He ran a 4.28 with a 39 and a half inch vert. And then the for sure first rounder out of Texas, Jaday Barron.
He ran a 4-3-9, which was a great time for him. Yeah, we saw him play against Ohio State during this run.
And great, great corner. Big corner.
Can play inside. Can play outside.
Play slot. Play safety.
And play the outside corner last year. Where he won the Jim Thorpe Award.
Obviously, that's awarded to the best DB in the nation. So, I think this guy as well will be a top, you know, probably 12-15 pick.
I can see him at the Saints. I can see him at the 49ers, a big physical corner that can cover and that can show up in the run game and tackle.
He showed he wasn't scared all year long, physical, physical player. And I didn't expect him to be that explosive or test that well here in Indy, but he did.
So he made himself a lot of money. Yeah, let's go to Saturday, which I believe is the most exciting day of the combine.
It is the quarterbacks, the running backs, and the wide receivers. Let's start with the wide receivers.
Missouri wide receiver Luther Burton had a really nice day. A lot of people thought he ran faster than he would at 4-4.
Both Iowa State wide receivers, Jalen Noel and Jaden Higgins, they both had a really nice day. Dante Thornton, the wide receiver out of Tennessee, he is 6'5", 205, and he ran a 4'3", flat, which is just absurd at that size.
That's good. But the guy that probably made the most money on the day was Texas wide receiver Matthew Golden, who ran a 4'2", 9 official, solidified in his first round.
D-Bud? Yeah, made himself a lot of money. Now, he could do everything.
He could run routes from the inside. He could run routes on the outside.
He ended up being Texas' number one wide receiver.

Bond went down, transferred from Houston, went to Texas, played his ass off.

But once again, another guy did not expect to go sub 4-3.

I know his teammates said he was going to break.

That was tough.

That was tough.

You can't be doing that.

It's bad.

You can't talk that shit.

He didn't run a bad time.

He ran a good time when you come out and say that.

But that being said, Golden, Golden, special, special receiver. He'll be probably wide receiver two or three off the board.
Let's go to the running backs, who a lot of people say is one of the deepest positions of the draft. They proved it on Saturday.
Daniel Jeremiah said literally every single running back who ran and worked out performed well. Like, there was no one who worked out bad.
But some of the highlights. Bayshel Tootin, 5'9", 206 out of Virginia Tech.
He ran a 4-3-2 with a 40-1⁄2 inch vert. He was the fastest running back on Saturday, which was awesome.
With David Spade on the call with Richard Daniel Jeremiah, who had a fantastic weekend, by the way. Great work, boys.
Yeah, David Spade looks super cool in those sunglasses. And thanks for coming to town.
David Spade did a fundraiser for a local organization here, I think, for free, so we appreciate the hell out of him. Thank you, David.
A lot of people thought Travion Henderson was going to test really well. He did.
But a lot of – Quinshawn Judkins out of Ohio State. He was 6'2".
He looked good. He ran a 4.48 in the 40, which I think surprised a lot of people, him being that fast at that big.
And then the exact same height and weight, 6'2". Out of UNC, Amarion Hampton, who's a lot of people's number two running back, behind Ashton Gentry.
He also ran a 4-4-6. So those big boys were moving.
Yeah, you mentioned number two running back. I've been hearing some stories saying he could possibly be the first running back off the board, which would be crazy with the season that Ashton Gentry had, Boise State being a Heisman runner-up.
This guy is freaky talented. His numbers, a freaky athlete as well.
Back-to-back years of 15, rushing touchdowns on the ground. Just a special, special talent coming out of UNC.
It was surprising to me to hear that he's the top running back on a lot of offenses. Probably has something to do with his pass protection and being able to catch the ball out of the backfield.
So he's a full three down running back. That should be another first round.
Yeah, overall, it was a great combine. Those were just some of the guys that stood out.
We'll talk about some of the quarterbacks later. Quinn Ewers spun it.
He did. That's right.
By saying, same with Jackson Dart. Dart.
Had a great one. Kid from Louisville struggled a little bit.
Will didn't have his best day. I assume the meetings were fantastic.
but there was a couple quarterbacks who actually chose to throw who had big-time days. We cannot bury every quarterback that has a bad day out here, though, because none of them will throw.
That is just a matter of a fact. So congrats to these boys.
Joining us now is a man whose opinion matters a lot more than ours. He's a Super Bowl champion head coach, Ohio guy, former MAAC wide receiver, greatest hair that a head coach has ever had.
Ladies and gentlemen, from the Los Angeles Rams, Sean McVay. It's about time you guys had me on, man.
You have all my guys on. I'm sensitive.
This is the first time I've been invited on here with you guys. Hey, shout out to Artis.
Okay. He and I had a great conversation.
Shout out to Artis. Shout out out to artists making this happen.
And also thank you for making time for us,

especially in the middle of a very busy time,

I assume for you.

Let's talk about what we just went through

with the combine.

You're one of the first coaches

after you guys won the Super Bowl

and said, you know what?

With the way technology is,

I'm going to stay back.

I'm actually not going to go to Indianapolis,

but our scouting personnel

and everything else like that

would travel out there.

What is the combine to you

and what should we take away

from everything that we just kind of

rattled off right there

for you in your mind, Sean?

Yeah, no, it's all a valuable part of the evaluation but i think you know the trust that we have in our scouting staff to be able to vet these guys to be able to use this as a piece for our evaluation we're a little bit behind the curve with coaches so the most important thing is let's evaluate the tape let's find out how these these guys are wired from a mental perspective. And so we can just get more done staying back.
And that's, it's a product of the trust that we have in our group to be able to continue to vet, continue to learn about them. And so it's a valuable piece, but the tape is the most important evaluation for us.
When you get a chance to chat with these guys, what's the number? Obviously tape has to match and be good to qualify them to be as somebody that that could be a los angeles ram but when you talk to them what is the type of player that you're looking for to be a part of your culture yeah as you would say we're looking for dogs i mean we want guys that are wired the right way i think the biggest thing is hey how do you measure some of these intangibles by learning about them from their background by seeing all right hey when you've had adversity how did how did you respond from it? What does that really look like? Are you wired the right way to be resilient, to have tangible examples of being able to bounce back, use setbacks as set up for comebacks? And I think you've seen that reflected the last couple years with some of these guys that we've drafted. You look at Jared Verse and Braden Fist, they epitomize exactly what we're looking for.
Kobe Turner, Byron Young, Puka Nakua, you know, these are the kind of guys that are our kinds of guys that are mentally and physically tough and they love to compete and they're not afraid to continue to just swing, even if shit's not going our way. Yeah, I love to hear that.
I think that's a necessity in football. I think you got to be tough both physically and mentally.
You rattled off a bunch of guys that we're massive fans of in such a quick amount of time in the nfl with the way you guys built this roster and we'll talk about matthew stafford here in a few moments but with the way you guys did make that big play to bring in matthew and kind of go all in the erin donald era you guys win a super bowl on the other side of that you have to hit on young talent less need to be able to get in young guys that are cheaper you know even though they're making a lot of money and they professional football players. But whenever you talk about a salary cap, you have to be able to hit on those young guys.
Why do you think Les has been so good in doing that? And also, how good does it feel that you guys are one play away? Now, granted, Jalen Carter just said you guys aren't doing anything. We'll talk about that at the end of the division around with the Eagles.
That way you guys, I mean, Puka makes that catch. Holy shit.
The Rams just gave up that touchdown from Saquon where he's punching his head in the snow and they're still almost coming back and winning this. And I know almost sucks and everything like that.
But with how young your team was, almost in a transition era to have that much success, how good does it feel to be where you are right now? And then obviously getting Matthew back, how great of a move is that in your mind so you can sleep at night oh it's huge and that was always the end goal in mind pat i think when you talk about what you're asking about with less you know going into year nine now together i think there's a real rapport that we have in terms of what are the kind of guys we're looking for being able to identify having flexibility in regards to what does that roster build look like you talk about about after the Super Bowl, I think in a lot of instances, we were kind of forced just based on the parameters, like, hey, these guys got to play. And it taught us as coaches, hey, let's be patient.
Let's challenge these guys. But I think you start to see things in guys that maybe they didn't even see in themselves.
And then that confidence can compound with good experiences. We're getting better and better.
I think we're able to learn from our mistakes and keep stacking good decisions. But, you know, that game was a battle back and forth.
I think we all felt like we were winning that game 29-28. Ultimately, they got it done, and they looked pretty damn good in the NFC Championship and the Super Bowl, and that really chapped my ass, too.
Yeah, I could see how the Philadelphia Eagles just became an absolute wagon. Just beating the hell out of everybody except for the Los Angeles Rams which is what the conversation was whenever we were hearing that Matthew Stafford was able to kind of go and listen to what the rest of the NFL was saying, both financially and what situations were available.
Everybody was attacking it from different angles obviously because it's Matthew Stafford and it's the Los Angeles Rams, but a lot of it was what is going to be a better opportunity to win and it feels like you guys are set up to win right now is that what you're telling Matthew Stafford when you meet with him on Friday or how does that conversation go inevitably for him to end up staying and extending as opposed to going elsewhere yeah I think we always felt like that was the end goal Pat and really what it boiled down to was there were some mistakes where I had some growing up to do, some things I could have handled better in the midst of going back a few years when we traded for Matthew and sent Jared to the Lions. And so it was about communication.
Let's be clear, open, and honest. Let's have the dialogue.
Let's understand the end goal in mind is always to get you back here. And so that's really what that entailed.
I think there was a lot of narratives out there. And because of the caliber of player he is, there's a lot of stories.
But I don't think either Matthew or myself ever really felt like this was the direction we weren't going to go. And sometimes when you really care about people, you can have real conversations.
And I think it's going to be even better moving forward. And when you see what ends up coming of it, you're going to really see, man, this is a selfless decision on his part, and this is really good for the Rams for how we move forward and keep building around him with him being able to play his best and the most important moments, and I sure don't take that for granted.
I assume you just alluded to what the contract is actually going to be whenever it is announced because it was reported, I think, by Rappaport after he got his ass beat in a But he did not call NFL security and there was no physical altercation. But I think he reported about the amount of money that he turned down elsewhere to stay with the Rams.
And we all just kind of joked about how bad moving sucks. And like, what is the tax to even pick up your family and move somewhere else? But also, if he sets up his his contract right he can continue to build with this

rams team i think that's what you were alluding to there am i taking that out of pocket or no yeah no no you're exactly right pat and that's the thing i think you know you want guys to feel great about where we're going and choose and and do these four years of equity that we built up means something and that was demonstrated by the actions i always tell our guys i see better than I hear and I saw him and his family make a choice to stay with us and that sure means a lot to me and we're a lot better football team because of it. That's a great line.
Hey I'll see what the fuck you do more than I hear what you're saying you're gonna do. I love everything.
I knew you'd like that. Yeah that's a good bar right there.
I assume you got a lot of them a lot of success very quickly gotta have a great brain. On that note D-Bud, D-Bud has a question for you, Coach.
Yes, sir. So we talked about, you know, you've been an Ohio guy.
I know you played your high school football down in Georgia where a lot of people know the story. You beat out Calvin Johnson to be the player of the year in Georgia.
Hell yeah. And then you go on to be a coach.
That's absurd. That is crazy.
You're the top player in Georgia beating out Calvin Johnson. Ungarnable this little white guy.
I mean, dual threat quarterback. He was the first of the exciting whites.
But with that being said, when did you know you were going to be coaching, possibly in the future? What coaches had the biggest impact on your career coming up? Yeah, I mean, I've been really fortunate, but in terms of just being around guys that were willing to invest in me. My grandfather was a huge influence on me.
My dad's one of the best leaders I've ever seen. You know, the one thing I will say about the Calvin Johnson thing, I think my dad was the head of the voting committee.
A little nepotism award. We love that.
Hey, don't let the truth get in the way of a good story though, right? So it's, uh, I will say this though, you know, being able to get into the business as early as I did, you know, my grandfather, the Gruden family, being able to work for Mike and Kyle Shanahan, I've just been so fortunate to be around people that said, hey, let me put my arm around you, let me teach you, and then you see what it looks like to do it the right way. And that's been a huge thing that I don't take for granted.
I realize how blessed I am, and really it's all about, it goes back to my grandfather and the legacy he set for our family. Yeah, football family, football guy.
And we got some football highlights of you. Calvin Johnson had no chance.
You see what this guy's doing? You see what that means? Look. Terrible.
Terrible? Yeah, right. Hey, look at the DBs chasing me, man.
I mean, this is not the same level of competition that Calvin had. That's a strike.
I don't know. That was a duck.
It's like 6A Texas. That wasn't your best throw.
Look at the form. Wow.
Look at the form. High ball.
Good drop. Look at that strike.
Hey, this is. I got some better ones than these, though, man.
We got to get some real ones. I'll tell you, we did not create this.
We certainly found it. That was a dime.
Listen, stop selling yourself short. Your dad said, listen, my vote might be worth two, but the boy had a good year.
The boy had a... Look at the knee drive.
Let's have a little bit more respect. Sean, dog.
Any sudden movement right now, I'm pulling my hamstring for sure. Do you still run routes and stuff in practice? I remember that story coming out there oh yeah i've been working out with uh with whitworth at his gym trying to say i haven't worked out like this in a minute but uh i'm trying to stay like you guys over there well i'm taking science you should do the same thing uh ty has a question about coaching and those who coach with you yeah coach i'm sure you've heard the adage now where it's like someone gets hired and it's, hey, they had a cup of coffee with Sean McVay.
That's the reason that they're getting a head coaching job. You've had a bunch of assistants get head coaching jobs elsewhere.
Obviously, one just happened this year as well. At what point did you recognize, like, hey, I better not get too comfortable with my assistants because they're going to be looked at in a pretty solid light from what they've done here, and they're going to get out of here and get opportunities elsewhere.
And how difficult is it? Yeah, it is difficult, but I will say this. When you're in the right headspace, it's the best thing that ever happens because all these guys, whether it's the Kevin O'Connells, Raheem Morris, you look at Liam Cohen end up getting a job, Matt LaFleur, Zach Taylor, these guys have been instrumental have been instrumental in our success.
They poured into me and to our group. And I think when you really look at it, what it does is it attracts high caliber people.
I'm able to always learn from the guys that come through here. Does it make it challenging that basically everybody's been here in some form or fashion, they're sprinkled around the league? It does, but it's also the most rewarding thing.
And, you know, you can see that the culture is translatable to what's authentic to these guys there's an urgency there's an enjoyment with how we go about this stuff um and i'm so proud of those guys and just proud to be a small part of their journey but it is a pretty cool thing how old are you now 39 you're an old grizzled vet i know i'm going into year nine now i tell you what, this coaching shit is like dog years. I mean, sometimes I feel like I'm 80 years old.
And, you know, there's certain times where I say, hey, let me just come on as a guest and kick it with you. But I love this stuff.
I mean, it's the best. It really is.
And I think having a little boy has given me a perspective that has really changed the way you go about it, the appreciation, the purpose, and the perspective that's necessary. And that's a pretty cool thing, Pat.
Becoming a father is amazing. I have about to be a two-year-old baby girl and a toddler, I guess now.
I don't know all the titles. You fucking get it.
But she's about 21 months old, going to become a two-year-old. Didn't know if I ever really wanted to have a child.
I thought I was a little bit too selfish probably to have a kid. My life a little bit too busy.
Then I meet my wife. My wife would be the perfect mom.
We decide to go about it. We have this baby girl.
She's the greatest. I assume you feel the exact same.
I don't know how I would have- I'm listening to you say it. No, you're right.
It gives you real purpose. I mean, I'm embarrassed to say because you're so involved in your career, you're a little bit more selfish and it's about you.
And man, it gives you a perspective. And I'll tell you what, like, it makes me love my wife that much more watching with the way that she is with him.
And, you know, it's a reason to say, what does it look like? How you treat a woman, you know, for him to see as a young man growing up. And, um, it's the best.
He doesn't care when I come home, if I've had some shitty plate calls or not, he just sees and he's smiling and i said you know what it's going to be all right isn't it do you ever have any of those shitty play it feels like you always i mean you're not oh yeah okay so you're nine years into this 39 obviously we all remember the super bowl against the patriots and that's like talked about like sean is beatable but all these guys that get hired are because they think that they're

going to be able to bring your offense over or your ability to move the rock over and we're in an offensive heavy league now I will say you changed the entire league by far quickly not only with the influence but the offense and what everybody is doing but is there a time where you think like you're getting beat by people you're getting outsmarted by people and how much is the game changing currently to a more power football as opposed to more wide open football shoot i mean it's amazing when you look at when we got here in 17 to what it is now and you just talk about the influence of the run game the defense really making an emphasis on putting a roof over the coverage and trying to be able to stop some of these ways that you can get over the top vertically and then you look at the evolution of offenses and the shift of personnels and how you run it and what does it look like now. It all goes in circles, but I think the best adjust and adapt, like one of the biggest things I'd say, you know, obviously it stings to lose to Philly, but I got a ton of respect for Vic Fangio.
2018, they were the best defense when he's running the Bears defense. 2022 or 2024 this past year, he's running the Eagles defense.
You see foundational principles that are in alignment with what he's always been, but it was illustrated in a different manner. That, to me, is greatness from a coaching perspective.
Adjusting and adapting, that's what we try to do. What we were in 17 to what we are going to be this year is going to be a lot different.
And if you don't adjust and and adapt you're going to get exposed and you alluded to that super bowl that was a humbling night you go from boy wonder to boy blunder in a matter of 60 minutes there's another bar there i assume you've used that before boy wonder to boy blunder it was great to see you on that big stage and we did wonder i think like is he ever going to get back or is now the blueprint out on how you stop sean mcveigh is the blueprint out? And instead, what do you do? You get back, win another Super Bowl, continue to evolve, continue to build. That's awesome.
You talked about Vic Fangio. They said his career was over whenever he was down in Miami.
That Philadelphia Eagles defense is going to look different next year. They have officially released Darius Slay from the Philadelphia Eagles, which will save him $4.3 million against the cap.
Okay, so that's the first cut here

as we're in the salary cap gymnastics season here.

This happened while we were talking to Sean.

Not going to put Sean on the spot here

to make him make a decision on whether or not

Darius Slay would be a good member of the Rams

or your thoughts of him as a player,

but that just happened.

I feel like people should know.

Let's move along.

Connor has a question for you, Coach.

Yeah, Coach, I'm a Patriots fan,

so thank you for laying that egg. I was at that game.
It was awesome. It was a great win.
Thanks, Connor. I appreciate it.
No problem. No problem.
You got one after, so who cares? But when it comes to working with Les Snead, how does that relationship go? I mean, it's a bad example, but when a player does get released or someone's available for trade, is that something where you'll text him and let him know? then when it comes to the draft you went from you know kind of fuck them picks with less need to now it seems like every year you guys are getting an all pro verse puka it kind of the list goes on but how's that relationship work and then who picks the really cool house that you guys go to for the draft because every year that thing is awesome yeah no it's definitely cool i would say that's kevin demoff and tony pastores deciding on uh where we end up spending those drafts but it's been great i think the best thing i can say about it connor is you just look at the adaptability and we've always seen the game through the same lens i remember when i was interviewing for the job we had an immediate rapport uh he works at it he not afraid to talk about his evaluations. He's not afraid to acknowledge his mistakes to own in terms of what does it look like to build a team, not just collect talent.
And I think you've seen that, you know, over the years, you know, evolve and adapt. You know, we were kind of forced to do that.
Like I was talking about earlier after the 21 season. But it's been great.
He's a stud. I really appreciate the way he works at it.
And I think we both have such a strong relationship that there's comfort in some of those conflict conversations. But we always come to a compromise and then whenever we make decisions, it's us collectively moving forward and I'm grateful for him.
There's nobody else I'd rather be leading alongside. What'd you say? Nine years together? Yeah, this is year nine.
That awesome crazy the rams draft house isn't that the one of the thing you guys are hanging out i think we're going to do something cool with the fire department this year which will even be cooler you know just based on everything that's going on so i don't know if i let the cat out of the bag but hey screw it hey i appreciate that you guys are doing it it feels like everybody from la is stepping up for the which is a beautiful thing to watch. Let's talk about that.
As that's all taking place, it's happening like tail end of the season there. What is the mindset of how do you reach out to the families that are affected? Like how has the Rams kind of handled all the fires and the devastation? I mean, just absolute devastation.
You don't even feel like it's real life, Pat. And in a lot of instances, where it started was far enough in proximity that it didn't really affect too many people.
But then once they start trickling over, and I can remember we're having basically our Wednesday practice leading into the Vikings playoff game, and you see this smoke in the distance. And this is an area where a lot of players and coaches live.
And you're thinking, wow, now this feels really real. And it felt real, but when it's physically in proximity and now people are having to evacuate their homes, man, it's just way bigger than football.
And I can't say enough about really our organization with the Cronkies. So many people deserve a ton of credit for being able to say, all right, hey, let's gather everybody.
Let's make sure that we're able to get to Arizona. Tyler Higby had a great line when we were boarding that flight and people were bringing, you know, all their family, you know, some animals were on there.
It was like boarding Noah's Ark going to Arizona. But it was an incredible display of the team coming together.
And really what I wanted to see from our group, I wasn't worried about necessarily winning and losing, but let's represent, you know, let's be a group in terms of how we compete, how we represent this city for what it looks like, for what's great about sports. And our guys did that really each of the next two weeks.
And even though we came up short of Philly, I'm damn proud to be associated with that group. And, and, uh, and that was some real stuff.
That's way bigger than football. Yeah.
Beautifully stated. And thank you for sharing all that behind the scenes with us from watching along.
Cause obviously captivated and by captivated,, I don't mean that in a positive way. Captivated all of us about the devastation that's happening and how quickly everything can kind of take place.
And now life happens as well. So you've got to keep rolling ahead.
You're 39, but the way you speak is that of like a 65-year-old. So profound.
And the way you talk is great, which is why everybody, ourselves included, think that you're going to go to TV. You know, and you look at Madden, what Madden was able to accomplish in such a quick career as a young guy with the Raiders and then transitioning to TV, transcending society, basically, into a football place.
His name is going to ring synonymous alongside the NFL forever because of his work in the booth. And then, obviously, as a coach, how much do you hear the noise? And whenever you get on TV or get in one of these interviews,

immediately afterwards you go, God, I just fucking killed that.

Keep it rolling.

What is your mindset towards it all?

Because you would be great for the game, brother.

You would be great for the game on a microphone.

I appreciate that.

That means a lot.

Because I'm a fan of you guys.

I was kidding.

I wasn't really kidding.

I'm glad to come on here and finally start this up.

Hopefully, we can make this a little bit more normal now. Amen.
Amen. I was kidding.
You know, I wasn't really kidding. You know, I'm glad to come on here and finally start this up.
Hopefully we can make this a little bit more normal now. Amen.
I love coaching. You know, the one thing I will say is, is what I don't take for granted, even when we were talking about having our children, you know, the influence and the impact that you can make where you're really being transformational instead of just transactional.
And that's what I love about coaching. Is there interest in that stuff? Of course, but I think we got some more stuff that we want to accomplish.
I love the group that I'm doing it with. And if that is an opportunity down the line that represents itself or presents itself, then I'll be, you know, I'll be, I'll be humbled by it, but I'm pretty damn happy doing what I'm doing and love what I'm doing.
Yeah, that's pretty evident. I mean, I think there were rumors of like 25, 30 mil from Amazon for one game a week on Thursday night.
That was alleged. That was alleged, obviously.
Yeah, if it was that kind of number, then maybe we have to second guess that. Hey, call me back, Amazon, if that's where we were right.
I'll publicly negotiate for you anytime, but I think that number is only going up and up with the way football is and you talk about you know you've been able to do some good things you want to continue to build on that we have a graphic of everything you've accomplished dude to say you've done great remarkable is the word yeah we have a rams fan who happens to be the graphic designer who pieced this together dirty in the back and he's like that's cool after piecing it together it's like a lot more respect needs to be given to what has happened in such a quick time especially in the nfc west you know like that's not a easy division at all congrats on everything thus far coach appreciate you guys finally having me on no we're not done yet we're not done yet we're not done yet okay unless you want to leave all right you want to leave no hey i'm ready to That that's why we love you yeah that's why you know that's why everybody loves we're gonna speak now we just wanted to point out all your accolades there and show it to you so you know hey a lot has been done here if a microphone does present itself you know maybe we go ahead hall of fame in both of them but with the team that you have there are some decisions that have to be made every single year that aren't easy i would assume assume. Tone has a question for you.
Yeah, Coach, nothing's final yet, but a guy that you did all those things with, Cooper Cup, I know is potentially going to be traded. He's been with you for all of those years.
How hard was that decision, and how do you feel about Cooper Cup just as a human in general? Yeah, I think the first thing you acknowledge is the impact this guy's had on my life, most importantly as a human i'm a better person for having been around cooper cup obviously his production he's such a baller he did so many great things for us over the course of his career and we've been through a lot together and i think one of the things i've always appreciated about cooper he was one of those few people that he always i know he loved me enough to be able to tell me what I needed to hear, not what I wanted to hear. And really challenged me.
And I'm better for having been around him. His legacy is cemented as a Ram.
It was arguably as hard a decision as we've had to come to since I've been the head coach here. And so you don't take it lightly.
He was such a stud in terms of the dialogue and being able to have some of those real conversations. And he's going to do a great job wherever his next stop is.
But man, those things are very real, very challenging. But you always talk about, oh, you separate the person on the business.
No, it's all intermixed. And you love them enough to be able to tell them why, but you always preface it with, hey, I could be wrong here.
I've been wrong before. And all we're trying to do is make the decisions that we think are in the best interest of the collective uh but this guy is is is such a stud and and i love him and uh and appreciate it more than words can express he was a great wide receiver for you guys he won the triple crown and also the yak i believe so the top four stats at one historic year and historic run the nine to dime podcast obviously he and stafford grew very close uh hell everyone is a ram excited to see where he goes next some team will be very lucky for him and before we let you go what is right now what does today look like are we watching film from the combine are we watching film from other what is the next like yeah so weeks so really we're in the midst of trying to get a couple of our own guys signed you know because next week represents the you know the legal tampering period or whatever the hell they call it next Monday.
But with our guys, we can get them done. And so we got a couple of guys that we want to try to be able to get signed.
We're studying draft guys, and then we're going to start to dive into scheme. You know, we've got all of our coaches here.
It was a light turnover year. We got six new coaches.
So that was a light turnover. I mean, you know, it's wild.
You know, this is the first year that since our

very first season that we've made the playoffs that we didn't lose somebody directly from our

staff that got a head job. Every other year we've made the playoffs other than our first year in

this past year, we've lost somebody directly from our staff. You know, Liam gets one from Tampa,

but you're talking about directly from our staff with Zach Taylor, Brandon Staley, Kevin O'Connell, Raheem Morris. Four years, you know, that we made the playoffs in between those first and last ones.
Pretty wild. Yeah, and we talk about what happened in Philadelphia.
They've lost offense coordinator, defense coordinator, having to turn that over, trying to re-implement a culture, re-implement everything with a new voice in charge. Not easy.
You've been able to handle it pretty well. You guys also lost somebody in the front office.
Are you worried about Glad about Gladstone little baby face coming in and just sniping all of your guys a stud man don't sleep on Gladstone he is I'll tell you what this guy's a smart sharp articulate dude love the way he sees the game he's got a great delivery you know he's I'm so much faster in my he's got this nice patient calm delivery I said, I just want to listen to you talk. He's a great teacher.
I'm fired up for James Gladstone. Congratulations to James.
Go help Liam get this thing right in Jacksonville. He looks like he's 12, though.
Yeah. He looks like he's like a gamer.
He looks like he's a 12-year-old. But, hey, listen, you had the same thing whenever you became the head coach of the Rams, looking like a young lad you'll love this pat when i was when i was the oc for washington when jay gruden was the head coach i get hired as a 27 year old the oc for three years i decided to shave my beard one day and he's like bro you can't do that you look like you're 10 years old nobody will take you serious you gotta grow that shit back immediately makes sense.
Gladstone might want to paint one on like he's Hulkster, whatever the case is. That's right.
We're excited to see it all work out. We appreciate you joining us, man.
Hopefully this is the first of many. Yeah, hey, would love that.
Appreciate you guys having me on. Big fan.
Ladies and gentlemen, head coach of Los Angeles Rams. That was really cool.
Sean McVay. Hey, coach! He knows the program.
Weapon, yeah. Electric.
That is electric. Those highlights, too.
And we would be okay if we were the ones getting credit with dogs. Yeah, sure.
You know what I mean? We'd nowhere near create it. Been around a very, very long time.
But as a person that got a front row seat to watch a lot of football, as a kicker and as a punter, both in college and the NFL, team's a lot better when you've got a bunch of dogs versus whenever you don't have a lot of dogs. That's just my simple view of football breakdown and him being like, eh, same, brother.
I feel the exact same way. Need dogs.
How do you find out if a guy has a dog or not at the combine? Legitimately, that is like the most – You can't at the combine. I think that's the most important piece of information, legit.
Yeah, you can talk to them in the background. But for me, it's like the players that play with them, that are already on your team or in the NFL, coaches that have coached them.
And then, like you said, the most important part of the process is the film. You turn on the film.
You can tell the guys that want to compete. And once you get to the combine, if a guy doesn't throw or doesn't run or doesn't do drills, that doesn't tell me anything about who they are as a competitor.
You turn on that film, you ask the people around them and you'll you'll get your answer pretty soon i feel like a lot of it has to do with where you like come out of like it used to be bama but now like you know like the eagles and howie he trusts taking georgia guys because he knows if they are starters and if they are good enough to to play and to get to the combine and to the draft they're like oh this guy has to be a dog just coming out of that program with kirby so i feel like definitely the pedigree and where you come from, stuff like that, you know? Yeah, I agree. How you're taught, you know, that's like Bill Belichick's big selling point down there in Lombardi.
It's like, hey, whenever you get a UNC guy, you're going to get a pro. You're going to get a guy that's ready to work.
We're going to kind of do the sifting out of personality for you. I think that's a good thing to have as a university.
Now, will they have enough patience to get to that point? It takes a little bit, especially in this new world, with the transfer portal and NIL and the ability to bounce. If you're not happy after, I don't know, a week, you can just kind of do your thing.
Will UNC be able to build it quick enough? I hope so, obviously because we love Lombo. And also, you know it.
You know what's happening. You know more than anybody, UConn guy.
You talk about a hard edge. Are we sure? Are we still trusting the climb? Right now? We're not trusting.
No. We're not.
We're doing hill climbers, brother. We're not just trusting the climb.
We're doing the damn climb. Okay? It's a little bit different.
Thank you, Neil Brown, for your service to West Virginia. You're an absolute kind man.
With that being said, yeah, we're getting dogs back in Morgantown. Okay.
Okay. And maybe there were a few that were there throughout the years.
Obviously, Neil was able to produce some NFLers. And Zach Fraser, obviously the most notable up there in Pittsburgh.
I have nothing but respect for the guys that came out of West Virginia through the Neil Brown era. It's just going to be a little bit different going forward.
You know, we're going to be looking for a little different attitude, a little different mindset, a little different workouts, a little different practices, a little bit different everything, you know, is happening out there. From what I've been told, it might take a little bit of time.
It might take a little bit. Might need a, you know, up there.
Usually year three. That's what's happening with Matt Rule.
He's thinking up there in Nebraska. It's happened in the past.
It's not easy to build a culture or reset a culture, but when you do it, you got gold. And when you have it, hold on to it forever.
Do not let it out of there. That is why him being 39 years old, if he wanted to run the McVay culture at the Rams for the next 30 years, he could.
What a place for the Cronkies to be in as the ownership of that team. And obviously, 25, 30 million seems to be the number if you're a TV company for Sean McVay.

Let's move away from the NFL, shall we?

We already talked about Elimination Chamber,

which was electrifying.

Shout out to John Cena, you know,

making a decision of his life.

Come on, John.

Decide to time our team with the final boss

and Travis Scott and kick Cody Rhodes right in the balls,

heading into WrestleMania.

After winning the Elimination Chamber,

now you'll be representing the final boss in the boys. It's hard to hear what their name know there's a couple names that are just sitting right there that are uh easily usable but we'll see what they do let's pivot away from those things let's go to the nba the nba is happening it is nba is happening in a big way by the way because a massive trade sent a superstar to la and that has kind of changed the setting for everywhere in the association con man what the hell's going on in the sport yeah the Lakers are unbelievable now uh looking at it earlier today January 13th okay rewind a little bit the Lakers are the seven seed they are now the two seed they are unbelievable Luca last night I believe he had 29 9 and 6 everyone knows he a little rivalry with the Clippers, I believe starting kind of during that little COVID bubble.
So the Lakers are unbelievable. Now, LeBron actually, that was his 1,000th win.
He has the fourth most wins of all time when it comes to the NBA. I believe he is 75 away from the record.
Pretty incredible. They play the Pelicans on Tuesday.
Zion and his sweet Naruto tattoo. That should be cool.
But, yes, they are the second seed. What's that? What do you mean? You don't understand Naruto, dog.
That's the problem. You run like this.
You're running fast. He got faster because of it.
Remember, they were in the storm Area 51. That's right.
And they were all going to run like this because of the, what's that called? The wind stream. The wind stream.
The aerodynamics of it all with the wind stream. Yeah, so that's just right there.
That's all me. I just thought it was pretty bad.
Yeah, because his, I'm not going to say it. Yeah.
His stomach is actually doing this right now. He's more powerful.
He's in more shape. Boom.
That's how Bill walks around the office. Whatever.
Bill is sending that tweet into the group knowing that I had not seen any of the workouts. Dude, how cool is this? I might get one too.
Maybe Bill should. Maybe he'll become an absolute hooper, an absolute dope like Zion is whenever he plays.
Let's not get it twisted. That is why we are such big fans of his because it's like he hears all the criticism.
does not care and then he shows up triple double no big deal are they gonna let me on the court tonight i don't know that's on the pelicans but if they do i'm gonna go bananas and in the postgame presser i'm gonna laugh i'm gonna have a time my life and if you get me in dallas keep an eye out because i'm gonna be rolling yeah nonetheless shout out to the nba and the lakers seemingly go ahead and climb the charts. Yeah, this is the first time they have been ranked, you know,

two or higher in four years.

So talk about relevance.

Luka really has kind of come in, figured it out.

Probably never going to talk about the Pelicans again

because they are damn near the worst team in the league.

Yeah, them and Ryan Smith's boys.

But that's the Western Conference.

Going to the east, Tyrese Halberd.

You know, look around, boys.

We have witness history.

Halberd is the first player ever to have 500 assists

in the Conference, going to the East, Tyrese Halbert. You know, look around, boys.
We have witness history. Halbert is the first player ever to have 500 assists in a season without having 100 turnovers.
He has 69 assists and six turnovers since the All-Star break. Remember, he did not make the All-Star.
He did not make the All-Star. So he just chilled.
He just got the chill, got the reset. He's come back on the other side.
The Pacers have on fire.

Yeah, they're rolling.

They're the five seed right now, kind of holding off the Detroit Pistons,

who also have been playing very good basketball for the first time this millennium.

But, no, it is great.

The Pacers are playing very well.

Hal Byrne's playing very well.

Obviously, they didn't start the entire season great,

but they have kind of turned it on here. This is the most important time.
You know, we talk about November football, December football. That's where we are right now when it comes to the NBA.
March is kind of the time where if you're not playing your best ball, that is very bad news. Playoffs start towards the end of April, basically right after WrestleMania.
So fantastic news for the Pacers. Hal Burton.
Got range, brother. He's pulling up logo.
He's doing logo shots right now. Yeah, he started this game here 4-4 from 3.
I believe this was the 33-11 game he had right before he came on the program last week. So they are rolling.
They are playing the Rockets on Tuesday. But when you're talking about the Eastern Conference, obviously you've got to talk about the chance of Boston Celtics.
Didn't they just lose to the Cavs in Boston? They lost to the Cavs in Boston. It was a bummer, but Jason Tatum had 46 points.
Another fantastic show. And Jalen Brown, he had 36 points.
They were up 23-2, and then they play with their food. That's kind of what happens with the Celtics sometimes.
Probably the best possible thing for the Celtics was to lose to the Cav cavaliers on friday after showing the calves fans are saying of course this is how we cover this game we're number one in the eastern conference and the way espn's covering the game is it was good for the celtics to lose the way they did up 23-2 i saw that i saw a lot of this yeah i saw a lot of getting yeah exactly a lot of that and that was all has got a lot to pull from is what you're saying. Bingo.
And there's a lot of motivation. But the Cavs are fantastic.
Donovan Mitchell had 41 points. But today, you know, we have to do it.
Happy birthday, Jason Tatum. Happy birthday, Jason Tatum.
27. He is the third player ever with 13,000 points, 4,000 rebounds before turning 27.
That's Will Chamberlain and LeBron James. If it wasn't for God and the universe every time he does something, for instance going up 25-2 and saying get the hell out of here, it does feel as though anytime he tries to do something like that, the universe and God says, you know what? You lose.
Anytime I try to get a little moxie. Stop doing this corny, zany stuff, okay? Every time you do it, I'm going to punish you, and that's what has happened, but they are sitting at the 2C pretty comfortably, but yeah, the Cavaliers, they are unbelievable.
It is a great story. Got to prove it in the playoffs.
You know, that's basically what the story was for the Celtics last year. Hey, got to win a championship before we talk about you like you're great, but the Cavs are fantastic as well.
All right, NBA people doing some interviews too yeah oh yeah talking chatting chatting let us learn a little bit more i think maybe they got guarded as everybody started killing them

sure you know i thought about this over the weekend as i was traveling back from toronto

to detroit shot to detroit to do customs hell yeah reload go toronto hour traffic just sitting dead

oh yeah i mean not even moving so it's great to be there people drive it was great to be there but

I'm going to go. customs hell yeah reload go toronto hour traffic just sitting dead oh yeah i mean not even moving so it's great to be there people drive it was great to be there but i was thinking about it it's like i feel like the nba players because of how much money they make okay which is a matter of fact when everybody just starts killing them they probably get a little garden just say fuck everybody yeah i think what needs to happen is we need to learn more about you guys that's what i think in the nba i think we need to learn more about you guys need to be talking more because we know tyrese we love him the more we learn about tyrese we love and he talks about the other guys like yeah we got a good group we got a good group we never hear it i never hear it until you retire like teague imagine him telling those stories when he's in the league yeah i mean people would absolutely love it he's fantastic so come on nba come on nhl happened this weekend 90 some thousand people it was awesome in uh the horseshoe watching wings and blue jackets blue jackets get a massive win i do believe yes they did the dog was there i mean sports are on fire tax act can think of a million things more fun than filing taxes tax act is going to name some now.
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Hey, go Hawks, bud. Go Hawks, baby.
Hey, a couple of Hawks, you know, had a great weekend at the combine. So, you know, that's what we're, that's what we're trying to do is just, you know, continually put more guys in the league.
Cause you know, I know that once they get in the league, they're going to perform. And I believe Caitlin and the Fever are playing like Brazil or something over there.
Did you hear about this? No, I didn't. Okay.
Ty, this is happening literally in your arena. I think it's sold out in like 40 minutes.
Oh, yeah. One of the Fever's preseason games is going to be played at Carver in Iowa City.
Yeah, it sold out in like 40 minutes. I didn't know they were playing Brazil.
I think it's Brazil. Brazil national team or something like that.
I think so, yeah.

From what I looked into, I'm not 100% sure,

but I think that was the meme that I saw.

Sold out in like 40 minutes or whatever the case is.

That's good business.

Caitlin just brings the money train to different cities.

And Iowa's a good sports place.

Oh, yeah.

It is.

You know, it's out there in the middle of nowhere.

Yeah.

A lot of corn.

Mm-hmm.

But they got so much tradition and history in football. Is the football team going to be good? Yeah, I think so.
Yep, Tony knows. That's one half of the hammer.
Done. Cowboys AP.
Tony, you're saying yes. How come? They finally have a quarterback.
They got the quarterback from South Dakota State, I believe. If I'm not – Yeah, South Dakota State.
Hey, now. Mark Gronoski.
Hey, now. They finally have a quarterback.
Whoa. I mean, they're losing a little bit to bit to the – Gronoski.
He was the FCS Heisman. He was the FCS Heisman.
Hey, a lot of these guys, they get – this is what the NIO and transfer portal has really done. Bingo.
Especially for quarterbacks. He's at South Dakota State.
Go big, go blue, go jacks. Go jacks, yeah.
Or is it – which – Oh, wait a second. No, South Dakota State.
The blue team. He was not at North Dakota.
Okay, so he was go big, go blue, go Jack. Yeah, getting an opportunity now to go to a larger conference, more spotlight, more game.
This is a good thing from the transport of NIL. Not that South Dakota State doesn't deserve to have great players.
I'm just saying this is going to become the thing in it, and hopefully Iowa does have an offensive place football as opposed to rugby. That would be cool for all parties.
Now, let's transfer away from college ball, which is awesome and was electrifying this past season, back to the NFL. Nine-year NFL vet.
He was a corner. He was a safety.
He was a nickel at one point. He's the host of Everything DB.
Ladies and gentlemen, Darius J. Butler.
D. Butch, in the first hour, we had our first Massacre Week victim.
Darius Slay has been cut by the Philadelphia Eagles. He was on with the Amon Ross St.
Brown Brothers.

The

St. Brown's podcast,

I believe is the name of it. Good podcast,

by the way. Good conversations,

doesn't feel forced, love that the brothers

did. Great family, too.
I've learned a lot about them from

Amon Ross Primetime

Games. Dad, professional bodybuilder,

I do believe. This is what Darius Slay had to say to the saint brian brothers this is your your last year with eagles how many more years you got left in your deal i got one more left but you know what i'm saying you know how that worked you know one of them yeah yeah so whatever they want to do you know i might uh resign back hopefully you know if i ain't then we'll see what we're doing because i do want to play one more year for sure, though.
One more year? Okay. Yeah, one more year for sure.
You like Detroit, you said, huh? Oh, I love Detroit. I got nothing but love.
That's my second home. You know what I mean? That's my second home.
I do a lot for the city still to this day. A lot of guys that's from Detroit that's in the league was all kind of like hanging with me when they was little high school kids.
That was the crazy part. A couple of my teammates, Monte Maddox, he trained with me when he was at high school.
Sauce Gardner. Boy, your boy, you don't like Jordan Lewis.
Donovan Peepers-Jones, he was with me. Okay, yeah.
So a lot of the guys, man, that I was in Detroit with, I was coming up. I just had like little agents meet me at this field.
A lot of guys show up, and a lot of them guys are done. That's crazy.
So I got a lot of love. Then I went to all the high school games, all the high school basketball games.
You know, I seen – what's the little kid's name? That's it, Cleveland. That boy can hoop-hoop.
I don't know how he's not playing. What position? Monty Bay.
Oh, yeah. I used to watch him in high school go crazy.
Like, I was going to go about – Man, I ain't never seen them kids sell out of the gym like Akeel LeBron. Boy, I swear to God.
The whole college stadium, they'd be sold out. Right.
Yeah, he was nice, though. So, I did a lot for the city.
So, that's why I got a lot. Okay, so it sounds like, shout out to the St.
Brown podcast for giving it, it sounds like Darius Slade has a lot of love for Detroit. Now, obviously, Amon Ra is one of the staples and pillars of the Lions.
Darius Slade started his career with the Lions, got kicked out of town for a bag of balls, right? Yep, 100%. Matt Patricia, friend of the program, said get this guy the hell out of here.
He goes to Philly, obviously has the success that he has. D.
Butch, when it comes to Darius Slay, how'd he play this year? Obviously, he's a Super Bowl champion. And would Detroit be a good fit for him, obviously, with Kelvin Shepard now, new D.C.
up there? Yeah, when Slay was healthy, he was playing very, very good football. He's put together a great career, probably a Hall of Fame career, in a lot of people's opinions.
Had that big interception, I believe, against the Packers late in the season in the playoffs. And the things that he was saying about being a Detroit player, I remember, I've been following him for a while.
I remember he was pull up to different high school games. And that's dope to kind of see your legacy still there.
So that would be a great place for him to go back and finish his story. But the Detroit Lions, they invested a lot of resources into DBs the last couple years.
Carlton Davis, Robertson bringing him over from the Raiders, drafting Terryon Arnold in the first round last year. So I'm not sure how it would fit exactly on that team, but he would fit in any scheme.
He's a smart guy. He can play.
He can still run. He can still make plays on the ball.
And he's great in the locker room, too. Great in the locker room.
And it would be great. You know, winners, you always want winners in your locker room to kind of build that culture in those meeting rooms for young dbs so i'm excited to see wherever slay uh finishes his career ran into kelvin shepherd last week at the combine great to see him feels like he's right at home at dc you know he is very confident very comfortable very happy to mcdc uh head coach of the lions uh bobblehead right there in front of you actually he gave a gave a speech about or an answer at the press conference about Kelvin Shepard two years ago.
Started giving him more and more and more to do because they thought he was on the trajectory to become a defensive coordinator. Aaron Glenn gets a head coaching job at the Jets.
Kelvin Shepard steps right in. How should that transition go for him, you think? And what should we expect from Kelvin Shepard in that D up there in Detroit? It should be pretty smooth because it's obviously a different voice and when this is kind of i think what the ravens have done for a long time they promote within a lot so it's easier to kind of keep that culture you know what the standard is when you walk into that room you know how how they're going to be judged and graded pursuing you know not no no no lacking off when it comes to running and chasing the ball attacking the ball getting turnovers they just got create more pass rush.
But I think going from Aaron Glenn to Kelvin Shepard, who's been on his staff for a while now, I think it'll be a pretty smooth transition, especially with Big Hutch coming back up front. So you guys aren't dead.
I guess the Lions aren't dead. No, we're not dead.
And if we learn anything from this last season when it comes to Darius Slay, you cannot have enough depth on the defensive side of the ball. So I would love to have him back in Detroit.
A lot of injuries obviously happen to that Detroit Lions defense and they continue to win. Let's say in the NFC North, the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers is back off a cruise ship.
Ladies and gentlemen, Super Bowl champion, college football national champion, father of 10, AJ Haw. AJ, good to see you.
You're glowing, fresh off Caribbean cruise. Fresh off a Caribbean cruise.
Good to see you. Yeah, I got back last night from the Buckeye cruise, but yeah, it feels like forever since I've been here with you guys.
Missed you guys, and it was fun watching you from the combine. First off, the set looked amazing.
Everything about it was really cool, and Schultz and Rappaport really took over the high seas, that's all they could talk about yeah i mean anytime you get into a battle in starbies people are going to want to talk about it yeah especially on what we assumed to be a drunk uh buckeye cruise is that what it was or how was the vibes this year on the cruise and how much money was raised for for uh for cancer for cancer research and everything about it but yeah it's the crew still is going until Wednesday. I got off.
My brother came with me. We jumped off in Jamaica and flew home yesterday, but they will be going until Wednesday.
So we'll see. I'm sure it's already in the millions, but it will be a ton of money.
Rude boy took the bomb to play in as soon as he could get back to Ohio. We appreciate you joining us.
A lot has happened around the NFL. A lot of drama.
Darius Slay now, a free agent. What are your thoughts quickly here about him potentially joining any team now? I mean, I think Detroit, why not? The guy wants to be there and listen to him talk about that.
Yeah, he's, Darius Slay is one of those, you know, like the OG DBs that bring up the young guys that help everybody, that teach them all the little things. I got to see guys like Al Harris, Charles Woodson, those kind of guys pass their knowledge down to the younger dudes.
I think that is invaluable, especially at the corner and safety position. We'll see what other teams are offering.
It always comes down to offers and potential and opportunity. The Lions are in the Super Bowl hunt.
You go with the Eagles to get a Super Bowl, maybe go back to the Lions.

That would be a great way to wrap up a career.

But good luck out there, Slaymaker.

Let's stay in the NFC North kind of.

Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is an NFL Offensive Player of the Year,

an All-Pro, and by all accounts,

best wide receiver in the NFL

out of LSU, Minnesota Viking,

Justin Jefferson.

Yeah!

Yeah! How you doing, man man i'm doing great man can't complain how you doing i'm fantastic thank you for joining us we're very very appreciative and also thank you for doing what you're doing we're just now learning of this flight school which is going to be an invite only high school wide receiver camp that you were putting together how did this come to be and how pumped are you to give back to the younger generation big time man i'm so pumped man i'm so excited because when when i was in high school we didn't have things like this you know we didn't have guys you know putting putting on these different camps putting on these different workout uh situations to help you know these high schoolers grow and to you know really perform once they get into college. And I just want to help out, you know, I always want to help out the community, always want to help out the younger guys, you know, transition to college, transition to the NFL.
So, you know, having some guys out, elite guys come and work out with me and to learn, to really, you know, experience just working out with with me and being around me so uh it's definitely a great situation that's going on so uh if you're a baller you're an elite athlete it's time to work i love that prime used to say if you ball you get the call not a bad idea when will this be when will this be justin this is going to be in june june six through the ninth. So in Bradenton at IMG Academy, it's going to be a fun time.
I can't wait. I can't wait.
We're pumped for it as well. Can't wait to see the clips that come out of there.
We assume there's going to be some incredible play. Somebody's going to get, I mean, there's going to be.
Which leads me to this, Justin. So I think maybe your class, maybe the one before, I'm not 100% sure, but and LSU is certainly a massive piece of this, but there was these young wide receivers that were just coming in and dominating.
You, obviously, the topic of conversation, whenever that happens, but you weren't the only one. There was a lot of guys.
Do you think it's because of the seven-on-sevens, because of the one-on-one culture that we kind of have now through high school and through younger ages is why, or why do you think you were able to to do well young and why do you think wide receivers have been able to continue to step up yeah um that's a great question uh you know time has changed so much uh the game has involved in so many different ways uh you know flag football wasn't a big thing when i was growing up you know i never really played flag football like that we we didn't really play on seven like they play now so the game is definitely involving in just you know having different ways to really learn the game of football and just being more skillful you know just not putting on that those helmet and shoulder pads getting physical you know they're working on their skill set and working on just being true ball ballers and having fun doing it uh so i wish i wish i had that growing up uh maybe maybe things would have been a little different but uh i feel like you know putting on that shoulder pads and helmet at seven years old uh got me to where i'm at right now it's all worked out it's all worked out and your toughness is something that doesn't get chatted about you get the ball a lot yeah and it's not always the easiest catches. I mean, you go and get it as a superstar.
And you're also an asshole. What was the kick me sign? You put the kick me sign on my back.
I was just trying to be a principal, trying to get flag football, you know, legislated across the country. And there you are, smacking my back.
You were fantastic out there. That was a fun issue.
No, you was fantastic. Hey, I told you and I told everybody else that asked me about it.
You need to pursue an acting career, man. Because, hey, the makeup, the everything was just top tier, man.
I think you should, I want to see you on a movie screen one day, man. I want to see that.
Yeah, you were hyping me up the whole time and i appreciate that uh that's peter berg in the middle obviously one of the most famous directors on earth and uh what a time we had that morning in chula vista i was lucky to be part of it thankful to be part of it but the initiative to your point about girls flag football and trying to make it like a sport that is sanctioned by all the states i know in pennsylvania they have so like our high school of plum who is very good at girls soccer very good at girls lacrosse it's like probably a good chance that we're gonna have a good girls flag football team continue to grow the game i think it's a great sport justin legit i think it's a great sport i think it is too man and uh you know just talking with you know, some of the girls that were at the Pro Bowl,

you know, just seeing them how excited they were of being involved in the sport and just being happy to be, you know, at the Pro Bowl and being around these top tier players. So it's definitely

just like I said, evolving for sure. But it's crazy to see, you know, women into this sport and

women excited to be involved in it. And just to see it going to different countries and us just expanding the game worldwide.
It's so great to see, honestly. Yeah, I think it's beautiful for the sport.
That's why when I was asked to be a part of it, obviously incredibly honored. But then I heard what it was about.
It's like, I got a daughter. I think she's looking at the way mom's built the way i'm built i don't know if she's gonna be a wmba player i don't know i don't know if that's gonna be the case but i could see her you know like those high school girls at the pro bowl there was some sauce on that i mean there was some real shit happened even even the plays that they were running was was crazy yeah like the double plays the hey i i told i told him we You might have to take some of the plays that they were running was crazy.
Yeah, like the double plays. I told him we might have to take some of the plays.
No shit. All right, AJ, I have a question for you, JJ.
Yeah, Justin, obviously what you're doing with those high school kids is going to be so valuable for them. Is there something that you've done when you were 15, 16, 17 that you thought, hey, this is what I'm supposed to do.
This get me to the nfl that maybe wasn't the right path or is there something that you see people maybe getting bad habits that you can teach these kids and try to get them on the right path early that maybe you didn't have back then yeah um i would really just say i mean everybody doesn't really have that support system uh like i had growing up you know with you know two loving parents uh two you know two older brothers that helped me throughout my whole entire situation to get where I'm at today. A lot of kids, especially nowadays, don't have that type of support system, especially with the NIL going on.
A lot of kids taking money more over than the situation and just the development and getting coached the right way. So I would just say more on not thinking about the NIL, you know, as much as as they are doing right now.
You know, just going into LSU and just going into meeting those new coaches and then develop me into, you know, a top tier receiver. That's something that I'm always grateful for.
Just meeting Jerry Sullivan and just being with those type of coaches down at LSU helped me develop to a top-tier player that I am now. So just that development and just getting that right coaching is something that every player needs.
Okay, so let's stay on that note. Ty has a question for you.
Yeah, Justin, so you obviously mentioned the coaching and everything, but if you look at the NFL right now, you could argue that five of the ten best receivers in the league are from Louisiana, and a lot of them went to LSU. Is that what it is? Is it coaching, or what's in the water down there? Because it really is crazy that all of you guys who are just a couple years apart of each other at lsu are you know four of the five highest paid receivers in the nfl yeah it's it's unreal honestly uh you know just seeing uh you know uh growing up and seeing odell and jarvis coming up and uh being a fan of those uh guys and, you know, growing that friendship with them.
And it was just, you know, great to see them growing up. And then for me and Jamar to be at LSU, win the national championship and, you know, just being top tier players.
And then for Brian and then Malik to come. So it's just it's just so much talent, so much, you know, things that's going on at LSU.
Of course, you know, playing those top-tier guys every single week help us into becoming a top-tier NFL player. But just like you said, it's either something in the water, something in the gumbo.
I'm not sure what it is, but we definitely some top-tier players for sure. You eating gator nuggets, Donna? You eating gator? You eating gator, Donna? There's some crawfish, man, some shrimp, man.
I'm not sure what it is, dog. What is it? Yeah, yeah.
We didn't know about that. Yeah.
We didn't know about that. All right.
As soon as I learned about it, I want to let you know. As soon as I learned about it, I knew I was going to do it.
About 35 seconds in a college game day. That was the whole thing.
So I hear that. So I hear that.
And I'm like, wow. If the entire place knows this, this is maybe the greatest that any school has.
So I go down there and I go to dinner. And I just ask, like, waiter.
I'm like, hey. Haven't talked to this guy.
And he goes, suck that tiger's dick. I'm like, okay, okay, okay, okay.
So you know that. And he goes, yes, everybody will know that.
I'm like, all right. So the next morning, the next morning I'm walking to the set and I see like, we have like university kids like work for game day.
They get a chance to like kind of see the behind the scenes. And I'm like, hey, and i'm like you know that they're like yes i'm like all right everybody knows that everybody literally there's a little kid there's this grandma just like suck that i'm like oh my oh my god what if i hope lsu gets back you know like i hope lsu's able to get back for sure because that place had all the makings to be absolutely think about going into that place playing lsu and you hear that song like what are you supposed to do yeah i don't like i don't know what are you what are you supposed they even banned that song we can't even play that song anymore oh i know yeah i was told it's the first commercial break i was told it's commercial for sure yeah oh for sure first commercial break they were like uh we'd rather you didn't do that that That's not our thing.
I was like, sweet, sweet. Okay, you got it.
So next segment. Hey! It's like, hey, the people, brother.
It's not you deciding. It is the.
You got to give the people what they want, man. You have to.
The people are the culture. The people are the culture.
It's a must. And that is why LSU.
Hey, Brian, let's go, Brian Kelly. Come on.
Let's go. Jeff Landry will give it the go.
We got to get right, man. We got to get back to what we need to, man.

Yeah, you're right.

Governor Jeff Landry will get that done.

He was in a battle that whole week.

All right, what a time.

Let's talk about transitioning now from LSU to the NFL,

especially in this time.

D-Butt has a question for you.

Yeah, Justin, I got to ask you, man.

You keep saying development.

We're talking about culture and all these different things

and the process that a lot of these young players,

but specifically wide receivers, are going through right now, fresh off the combine combine they already put their film on tape you got the draft coming up you hit the ground running early as a rookie and just taking off since then what advice would you give the young guys going into their first nfl season what was the biggest difference playing college football and then on the nfl level yeah that's a great question know, my advice would just be, you know, have the confidence, be coachable, and just learn, learn from the older guys, and just be in a playbook. That's for one.
If you know the playbook and you're a guy that knows every single position, you can be put anywhere on the field and you can make a play you you already are making a difference you know so I would just say especially have being on that field and being a rookie having that confidence is something that I carry myself with every single time I step foot on that field it helped me tremendously throughout my rookie season and it goes a long way just stepping out there and feeling like no one can cover you.

Your position requires confidence, I think.

I think wide receiver requires confidence.

So is DB, kicker, punter, quarterback.

There's positions that obviously, but wide receiver, they always say like,

that's a wide receiver though.

That's a wide receiver.

When they talk about people bitching and being negative and everything like that,

they always say that's negative.

Why have you, I don't know, that's such a question.

And I think that's a wide receiver though that's a wide receiver when they talk about people bitching and being negative and everything like that they always say that's why have you I don't know that's such a question hey why aren't you an asshole I don't know how to ask that question but like there was a year there where you guys weren't great and it wasn't a lot going well and we never heard a peep from Justin Jefferson you know like there's never been and obviously there's a lot of guys that get paid a lot of money so that's not an excuse like well he gets paid a lot of money. Why do you have like the team mentality so much as a wide receiver one? Not just wide receiver one, like maybe number one wide receiver one out there, Jake.
Yeah. I mean, I just always grew up with, you know, my parents telling me to be humble and to be grateful for anything that I've been given.
And I've been given the opportunity to play football at the highest level. You know, just making money to help my family out and generations down the line.
So just every single time I step foot in the field, I just like to have fun. Just going out there and acting like a kid.
Just waking up and just being excited to go out there and ball. And, you know, just show in front of the whole entire world and I just I just love just playing the game of football I love going out there and compete with my teammates winning games and of course hopefully one day hold it up hold up that trophy so and then of course at the end of it when it's all said and done you have that gold jacket that gold jacket around my bag.
That's always something that I dream about and always carry myself with. Just that legacy and just always trying to make a name for myself.
That's always something I'm trying to do. I think you can leave the hanger open, brother.
It's on its way. I think already you could say that, which goes to everything you've already accomplished.
And we thought maybe this past year was going to be the year that you go and get that confetti shower. With that being said, it feels like every year it's possible.
Go ahead, Conman. Yeah, Justin, what's it like playing for KOC? Obviously, it feels like he's a super genius, one of the next offensive gurus.
I assume, you know, you guys have conversations on the sideline and he can draw it up for you. But we also saw him, I think, in the beginning of the 2023 season when, you know, he didn't start so well and he can, you know, rip the team still.
It was kind of just like a mic'd up and he was kind of cussing you guys all out. How is he on the day-to-day as a coach? And is he one of those reasons you guys continue to have a bunch of success? Oh, he's wonderful.
He's definitely, you know, one of the best coaches that I've been around, you know, especially offensive minded head coach, you know, a coach that's, you know, in the meeting rooms, that's going over the plays, that's, you know, talking with you, talking with you, you know, how to get you open and how to, you know, just put you in different situations to help the team out. He's great.
He's great all around. Just talking to him, not only about football, but just about anything.
Him just being a player's coach and just being such a great person to talk to. His pregame speeches are always top tier.
He's a great guy. I love being around him.
I love being a player for him and just being in the system. That's definitely something I'm grateful for.
Hopefully, we continue to do great things. Just like you said, hold up that trophy.
You want like 8 for 180 or something one first half. And it's like all week, all the other team is saying is, Justin Jefferson cannot break the game.
18 can't break it. That is all we are worried about.
And then you look at the halftime stats because we can't follow every single game, and it's like, Jay Jefferson, seven catches, 140 yards, two touchdowns. Like, did they start the game early? Love that stat.
Did they start the game early? Did they start the... No, that's halftime.
That is halftime. It's like, seems like in that system, you know, I think any system you'd be great.
But with KOC, obviously, he understands you and you understand him pretty well. With that being said, massive question mark looming going into the year.
Tone has a question for you. Yeah, Justin, you've got balls from, you know, Kirk and Nick Mullins and the Pastronaut and Jaron Hall and Sam Darnold.
So you've got a lot of guys in that system. And there's a question, who's going to be your quarterback this upcoming season? Do you care who it's going to be? And what's your favorite type of quarterback to catch balls from since you've had a ton of them? Yeah, that's a great question.
I'm not sure who the quarterback is going to be. And just like I said last year, you know, it truly doesn't matter personally to me.
You know, it doesn't matter who's going to throw me that ball. I'm going to make the most of my opportunities.
I'm going to try to make him look the best quarterback in the whole NFL. Just, you know, making the contested catches, making those catches that look difficult be easy.
So just having that confidence in me and just, you know, creating that connection with the quarterback, no matter who the quarterback is going to be, that's the main part. And just, you know, just having that confidence in each other to, you know, when it's all said and done and it's getting crunch time, they know who to go to.
You and Sam were wonderful to watch this past year.

You and Kirk were awesome.

Yeah.

You and the past or not.

I mean, literally, he rattled off all those names and I was just thinking of highlights

that you had with all those guys.

I forget what it's been like over in Minnesota

for the last few years.

Can't wait to see who, Kweci and KOC,

and hopefully they let you know

who they decide with going forward. Good luck over there at the quarterback position.
AJ has the last question for you here, Justin. Yeah, you mentioned getting on the same page, and it is kind of crazy.
We hear people talk about, yeah, it takes some time. There's nuance in the routes and everything and how a quarterback likes you to run it.
What do you do to where you're on the same page, it seems like, instantly with whoever they plug in at the quarterback position? One is just building that connection with them, just building that chemistry, you know, just talking with them, you know, not only about just routes and X's and O's, but just talking about, you know, their life personally, getting to know them personally and just building that bond with them. That's one thing alone.
But, of course, going out there on the practice field and running through those plays and making everything look smooth and fluent, getting to the spots where, you know, the quarterback needs me to be at, and, of course, at the end of the day, making a grab. That's the main important thing is just making those catches that the quarterback feels good when, you know, he throw up a 50-50 ball and his receiver is coming down with that ball so I just try to make the most of my opportunities every time I step foot on that field no matter who the quarterback is and I will continue to do that every chance that I get we just showed a couple routes there it's like you said getting to the spot that you said you get to no matter what.
That one route was like he was running out, dig, post, back into a seam. I mean, it was just like six different things.
It was like, how do you guard that? You can't. This year was crazy, though.
This year has been so much more double teams, so much more triple teams. It's been a lot more harder to separation and get open uh you know like i've been before uh but you know just talking with ko talking with sam and just all being on the same page uh us working with each other to you know help me create that separation and help me get open uh i feel like that's the the number one thing of uh especially about being with with these guys that you know they they know what they're talking about.
They know what plays to run to get me open. When have you talked about getting to know the quarterback personally or whatever, you know, not just X's and O's on the field.
What'd you learn about Sam Darnold? What an interesting career he has had. Did you guys talk about that at all? Very interesting.
Very interesting. And just looking back on it, you know, seeing it from afar, you know, he just needed to be in that right system.
You know, he needed to be with some guys that can, you know, make a little things easier for him. You know, just having a top-tier quarterback, having top-tier running back, having top-tier tight end, you know, having those type of guys on the offense on the office to help you, uh, move the ball down.

Justin Jefferson on your team.

Yeah, yeah, we get it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It'd be cool.

It'd be cool to have Justin Jefferson on your team.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I get it.

You know, things, things are a little bit easier than what they were when you don't

have those type of guys.

So, uh, just seeing him in practice, seeing the things that he's doing, uh, to, to overcome,

uh, the, the, the past and, uh, the career he had before, uh, and just not just not letting you know the outside noise get to him you know just being the type of guy that uh just trying to you know um evolve him any chance that I get trying to give him that juice give him that energy that I can uh any any chance that I can uh even when he's making a bad throw or make a bad read, I'm going over there and making sure

that he's not sitting on

that. He's not keeping his mind on

that. We're moving on to the next

play. We're still with him.
We still

have that confidence in him. It's

just all about just going out there and just having fun

playing. That's awesome.
What a different experience

he had to have this past year versus in the past.

I see your shirt as we let you go.

L'Academy de Jetta.

I believe that is Jetta University

if that was to be translated. Is that

Thank you. he had to have this past year versus in the past.
I see your shirt as we let you go. L'Academy de Jetta.
Okay, I believe that is Jetta University, if that was to be translated. Is that flight school? What you talking about all this, man? Oui, oui, oui, oui, oui, oui, bonjour, ça va, ça va bien.
I was just up in Canada. You know, they speak French up there in some places.
Wild to think about, but they do, oui, oui. L'Academy de Jetta, that is uh jetta university is that flight school is that what we're also going to be calling flight school or no no this this is just you know my one of my under armor uh shirts you know just one of the you know what i'm saying so uh just creating that brand with under armor and uh they're doing so much to help me out.
Even with Flight School, they're doing so much to help. The guys have a great experience, of course, having the drip, having the swag that they need.
But it's just going to be a fun experience and a great time. But thanks to all the people with the help that is going to be helping me out with it.
But I'm excited to show the world the Elite 18 that's going to come to flight school. Oh, Elite 18.
Okay, who will be at the top 18? Flight school, June 6th through the 9th. High school invite wide receiver camp alongside Justin Jefferson.
And we assume many others are going to pour back into it. I'm just now seeing this particular graphic.
It'll go as far.

Yeah, that is sick.

Appreciate it, man.

That's what I like to hear.

I didn't know your beard was the mustache. Is that you

on the top there? Yes. Looking left?

Yeah.

Look at the mustache. Pretty thick.

That's strong.

Yeah.

That junk is growing. All right.
We appreciate the hell out of you, man. Keep killing it.
This is very cool. Thank you for giving back to the sport.
Always, man. Love.
Yeah, you too, man. Ladies and gentlemen, Justin Jefferson.
Yeah. It's a good mustache.
He's the man. It was looking left, and I was like...
The top?

Yeah.

I was like, is that a different...

I didn't think so.

Is that someone else on there?

Well, I didn't know.

He got two pictures of himself, and that's an interesting decision.

But I didn't know his mustache was that thick.

I mean, he's got a thick mustache growing up.

That would have been an interesting decision.

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I wish we had a chance to chat about it. And then obviously with the Combine coming back last week, so many things happened, so many people stopped by.
Did you hear about Rappaport and Schulte? Yes, I did. That was not concerning.
I mean, I think this is good. Rivalry is good for any sport, anything you're doing, I think.
Yeah, because what's going on there? You think, is Schultz he trying to nip at the heels? Oh, yeah. Right? Is that what Schultz he's saying? Yeah.
Chomping. Yeah, he's like, hey, listen, there's a couple big names out there in the insider game.
I just want to let you know I'm here. And maybe there were some things being said behind the scenes, you know, in conversations that may be linked back to somebody.
Hopefully there's some communication diatribe between these two, and know maybe they'll be able to move along dialogue i mean maybe two diatribes uh for the dialogue in the entirety that was obviously something and then these freak athletes aj these freak what was the guy's name out of old miss which is a school i guess i think we're allowed to say i think we're allowed to even say uh the school i don't know if you heard about this or not uh you know We alluded to something without saying any names. Wallace was saying allegedly it was the number one story in the world, basically, on the Internet.
So we alluded to it. I thought it was brilliant.
People say it was wrong. Nonetheless, hope everybody's okay, Donner.
Hope everybody's okay. I know.
Okay. Yeah, yeah.
I know what's going on. Yeah, we showcased some empathy, too.
I don't know if a lot of others did that. I don't know if that was being mentioned.
Definitely not. Some terrible, terrible things were being said about me.
But there was a guy. He's a D-Tackle.
His name's J.J. J.J.
P-E-G-U-E-S. So we don't know if that's Pegs, Pegus.
Pegus. Pegus.
Pegues. Plugs.
Maybe it's just. Peguaz.
Maybe it's just Peg just Peg too and everything else is silent behind it.

Nonetheless, let's do a D-tackle.

Have you seen any of these clips of this guy?

Who else impressed this weekend,

AP Tone? Yeah, starting on Thursday,

Landon Jackson out of Arkansas.

He's a big 6'6",

270 guy who jumped 40 inches,

ran a sub-4'7",

which is incredible for a defensive end.

Tennessee,

defensive end James Pierce ran a 4'7",

which was huge for him. He's going to be the number

I'm not sure. ran a sub four seven, which is incredible for a defensive and Tennessee defensive end.
James Pierce ran a four seven, which was, was huge for him. He's going to be the number two edge off the board, most likely behind Abdul Carter.
And then on Thursday, Shamar Stewart was the talk because of the numbers he put up. Now he didn't put up those numbers on the field, but at the combine, he put up, you know, six, six, two 70, jumped 40, 10, 11, 10, 11, broad four, six in the 40, which put up, you know, 6'6", 270, jumped 40, 10-11 broad, 4'6", in the 40, which is just, you know, like a lot of people are saying, I said those are Miles Garrett numbers at the combine.
They are. Did he do it on the field? No, but just absurd.
And then you go to Friday. Terrence Ferguson had a great day.
Mason Taylor had a great day. Those are two tight ends.
The safety out of South Carolina, Nick Eamon-Warri, 6'3", 221, with a 43-inch vert, 4'3", 8". Can you imagine having that, D-Butch? Yeah, that's ridiculous.
Yeah, well, D-Butch, what did you run your 40-inch? 4'4", 1, and what did he say, 43? 43. Same vert, same vert.
You had a 43-inch vert? Yeah, 43. I-hop, brother.
Yeah, that's what they called him. I-hop.
Sheesh. Yeah.
Bunnies, brother. Also in that group, Maxwell Harrison, the DB out of Kentucky.
He ran a 4-2-8 and had a 39-and-a-half-inch vert. So he's potentially a first-rounder now.
And then D-Butts guy, Jaday Barron, 4-3-9 out of Texas. Big,xas big big physical good looking db i like him all around db uh aj you obviously did you do anything at the combine i don't recall yeah i did everything except for the medical you just were very difficult in the medical department no i did every all that uh was required of me i did all the mris and everything i just didn't i did not volunteer any extra about things that may have been painful.
And if they didn't find a surgery on my record, then I did not update them. That's on them, not on you.
Obviously, they have a job to do. You have a job to do as well.
You're trying to get to the NFL. There's more and more players opting out of doing these workouts.
So anytime we see any of these freak numbers, we must be grateful for it. And I think we should put it over.
Yeah, I was happy speaking about guys that were opted out a lot of the ohio state guys opted out of doing stuff but the running backs did go and the running backs had a big day on saturday all of the running backs performed well but one of the best ones was the running back out of ohio state quinshawn junkins who went six foot 220 ran a 448 had a 38 and a half inch vert so like when he does that at that weight, like, that jumps him up. And then the guy out of UNC, Omarion Hampton, had the same exact height, same exact weight, but also ran a 4.46, so a little bit quicker.
And I know D-Butt loves him. Very, very productive.
One of those backs. You love him, huh? You love his guy.
Do you? Look, he might be the first guy off the board. What about Ashton Jetty out there? Don't be crazy, bud.
Absolute freak show. He's a dog.
A record-breaking running back. But this guy, we know how valuable the pass game is on the next level.
He's special. I mean, both these guys are special.
I'm glad the running backs are coming back to a point we may get two, maybe even three in the first round again. Yeah, and I don't know if that was a talent issue or if it was just a strategy issue from NFL teams, but now that the Philadelphia Eagles have won it, a lot more teams are in a monkey-see, monkey-do, copycat league.
Just like Tyrese Halliburton was talking about, well, we've become a three-point shooting league because the champions have been three-point shooting teams. So it's a copycat league.
What you see the best team do, you're going to try to do. The Philadelphia Eagles, they were a run-first team.
They were an offensive line team. They were a running back-led team.
And whenever you think about that, and other teams are like, why don't we do that? That seems to be sustainable. And they had been having success investing in the offensive line.
They'd been having success being an O-line, D-line, Howie team, but they hadn't got to the mountaintop. So although we can all say they had had success, and it seems to be a good formula, around the NFL, it it's like, well, they have won the Super Bowl.
So until that team can be the best team, we don't want to hear about it. Now that team is the best team, and that formula is becoming the formula.
So Quinshawn Judkins transfers from Ole Miss to go to Ohio State, had more yards than Travion Henderson, even though everybody was saying Travion Henderson was the guy. He was.
He had a good weekend as well. He ran in the ran in the 4-4s as well.
Ohio State. Hey, they're saying Will Howard did not do good, AJ.
AJ, they're saying he did not do good. That's what I hear.
I mean, I guess that's the risk you take throwing at the combine, huh? Yeah, and Shador Sanders. Shout out to Shador coming out and saying, like, this dude just won a national championship, man.
He doesn't know any of these wide receivers. He's throwing goal balls to guys running four sevens.
He was throwing to Igbuka and Tate and Jeremiah Smith. These guys are NFL guys.
He's got them throwing to insurance guys, and his timing is off, and everybody wants to murder him. It's basically what Shador Sanders said in this entire tweet, but it's very real.
I did not get a chance to watch it live in real time I did watch it back later it started out bad it started out not good and the louder it gets and the more chatter the more people are going to tell their guys not to throw at this like Will Howard's Pro Day I assume is going to be great I assume Will Howard's Pro Day is going to be incredible that's what I'm guessing because everybody's is. But, yeah, I mean, I guess what he put out there, not everybody's saying it was fantastic.
There were some highlights. There were cherry-picked, of course.
Sure. But there were some people saying bad day for Will Howard.
I don't know if that's true. I feel like it definitely wasn't a great day, even from the testing standpoint.
And speaking of testing, quarterbacks, I think Millro should have ran the 40. I think that was what separated him from a lot of guys his physical attributes.
But a guy like Will Howard, I would think kind of had to go out there and throw. The top guys, they definitely have the option.
And if you are a top guy, if I'm an agent, I'm definitely going to tell you not to throw. There's nothing you can gain from that, especially if you've already put out the film.
But where does DJ have Will now? Like third, fourth round? I don't know. It's not good.
Everything's not good. Yeah, Derek Slings for asking.
That's what he wanted to see. Yeah, I mean, like he said, like, you know, him like going out there and completing a bunch of passes isn't necessarily the important thing.
You just want to see how the NFL ball comes out of his hands. So, like you said, I mean, he's going to turn around and go on his pro day, and we might be having like a Zach Wilson, like, hey, Will Howard went 55 of 55, and he's doing all.
I'm not saying they're the same guy because I don't believe that. So, hey, D.
Butch over here, first day back, saying, I've been listening to you talk about this, Will Howard. What? A lot of people have been telling me the same thing, D.
Butch. I've been getting a lot of tweets from people saying, this is your king? Yeah, but he saw him live, too.
He saw what he did in the playoffs, but it gets the same thing. It was tough, too, because Jackson Dart threw well in that group.
Quinn threw well in that group. Brady Cook looked pretty good in that group.
He just didn't look as good as those guys. Yeah, but look at the arm strength.
Look at the arm strength! Overthrew. That was a dime.
Oh, I'm sorry. This is Jackson Dart.
Jackson Dart threw very well, which I think at Ole Miss he was able to showcase a lot. Some people are saying maybe he ends up at Pittsburgh.
But Jeremy Fowler put out a post that said, hey, the Pittsburgh Steelers are leaning Justin Fields. Speaking of Ohio State quarterbacks, now that the Matthew Stafford domino has fallen, Aaron Rodgers, I think all eyes on him next.
Allegedly, via report from Schefter, the New York Giants

were interested in Aaron

Rodgers. AJ, have you heard anything

of the sort, or did you have no service while you're out

on the Buckeye, Drunk Eye,

Potential Cuck Eye, Cruz?

Whoa, whoa, whoa. We don't know.

We don't know. Potential.
I have not heard

anything about Aaron to the Giants.

I just, yeah, I mean, it is a bit interesting to think, like, what would it look like if Aaron did go to the Giants and play for them. What does their team look like then? So he would be able to stay in the same house.
We all know how much everybody hates moving. True.
Moving absolutely stinks. And if you look at the end of the year with Aaron and then Devontae Adams is being reported.
Nobody's heard from Devontae or Devontae's people, but everybody's just assuming that Devontae, whenever he gets released from the Jets, if they can't find a trade partner, which is like $38 million or something like that, if they can't find a trade partner and he gets released, he's just going to go there and Rodgers wherever they go. So there's a tag team going wherever.
That's just kind of being assumed right now on the internet. I don't think we've heard anything from anybody in Devontae's camp that that's necessarily true.
He did have kind of a tongue-in-cheek thing where he said he would certainly consider maybe going back to Green Bay and his career there. And that's just as a Packers fan, obviously.
And Aaron Saka and Aaron. Who knows? Maybe he does.
What about Jordan? Competition is great for everybody. That's what we're hearing here in town.
Competition is great for everybody whatever happens i just same i mean it's it will stink if the giants are the only opportunity he has to be a starter somewhere because i really i just talk about aaron here yeah aaron i just i don't know how that ends well because i mean i guess if you're shane and dable like they kind of are coaching for their job so you don't really want to trade up and draft one of these rookie quarterbacks and put all your chips into that basket because if then that guy's not the savior then you're probably shit out of luck but i just i don't know you look at their roster and like they do have some good pieces but we looked at the jets roster and we're like hey this is like a potentially a super bowl team and i don't think you look at that with the giants and think that so i hope he lands on his feet somewhere and gets an opportunity. I just really hope it's not with the Giants.
A cool thing with the Giants that could happen, because it would kind of stink just the New York teams and the New York media dealing with it, but at least his stamp could be on him for longer. Like if the Giants do end up with Rodgers, and for sure Dayball and Shane are coaching for this year, and if they're not good this year, then they might be done.
So their number one priority might not be a young quarterback.

But if they go with Rodgers and then also take a Shador or a Cam Ward

with their draft pick, then all of a sudden it's like,

hey, it's your team for a year.

And then going forward the years after,

you're going to get credit for the guy that comes behind you.

Jordan Love with the Packers, I feel like Rodgers still gets a little credit

for the reason that the Packers have had this seamless transition

I'm going to go ahead and get started. get credit for the guy that comes behind you like jordan love with the packers i feel like rogers still gets you know a little credit for the reason that the packers have had this seamless transition is because of the time jordan love had behind him and he might have that same opportunity with the giants where he signs you know a one-year deal kind of goes out on a high note and also gives you know the keys over to a chador or cam what was the stat on the giants two and ninescore games? Is that what it was, Bruce, or is it worse than that? Or was it like one and nine or something like that? I think it was that at one point.
We were playing competitively in the first half of the season when we had Andrew Thomas. We were losing close games.
And then obviously around Thanksgiving, what everybody remembers, Tommy DeVito, Drew Locke, it all fell apart. But, you know, I think nine wins is a realistic expectation.
All right. Jesus Christ, put the booze down.
Is that booze? With Rogers. It's oost juice.
Is that oost juice back there? It is oost juice. Oh, so back there.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Bruce, is that your oost juice? No, no, it's Gumpy's oost juice.
Oh, Gumpy's pledging his allegiance, it does appear. Drinking some oosh juice from Zoa.
Oh, yeah. Okay.
Malik Neighbors is there, obviously. I don't know enough about the entirety of the roster because there was no reason to watch their games.
Towards the end of the year, they were completely out of it, way out of it. A lot of conversation about the Hard Knocks offseason.
We heard from people at the Giants at the combine, I don't know if you heard about this, where they said, hey, fair, you got to do what you had to do.

With the way we talked about the hard knocks thing,

they wanted us to know, hey, you had to do what you, we saw it do.

Yeah, no harm, no foul.

That was pretty cool to hear in it.

But then whenever Schefter breaks that news, you immediately go like,

is that what Aaron, I don't know.

It's interesting.

You think about Dayball, Dayball's obviously had success multiple different times in the NFL. Is Cleveland an option? Are the Browns an option? Well, now there's...
Now we're in Tannenbaum proposes wild trade season. Yes, we are.
Yes, I did hear about this. Deshaun Watson and his contract.
It's actually going to Los Angeles Rams. They'll eat that to get Miles Garrett, just like they were able to do with Matthew Steele.

We're in that time. Now, with that being

said, Tannenbaum did say Justin

Fields, right?

Wasn't he the one before? Whenever we thought

Justin Fields was the only untouchable

with the Chicago Bears because he was the

only one that had any highlights throughout

the entire year, Tannenbaum's first thing was like,

they need to trade Justin Fields. They need to do this.
They need to keep the pick. They need to do yada, yada, yada.
He was the first one that said move on from Justin Fields. So every once in a while, Tannenbaum's going to take a massive – Sure.
I mean, he's going to take that thing all the way around. Like that Japanese golfer guy that I watched.
What a beautiful range. Beautiful range.
Oh, I know exactly what you're talking about. So smooth.
But that's like, Tatenbaum's going to do that.

We're a baseball bear once in a while.

This one's seemingly absurd.

But the Cleveland Browns quarterback situation is one that is a very real convo.

What do they decide to do?

Do they take one of these quarterbacks who are potentially going to go on a very small salary,

who's a veteran like Russell Wilson, who did for the Pittsburgh Steelers last year,

where he charged them $1 million to be their quarterback, and $48 million was charged back to Denver or whatever it was, $38, $48, $58, whatever, $80-some, whatever it was in the hole. It's like, did the Browns try to do that? Is Aaron going to be that guy because he's getting paid from the Jets? Is he going to take, like, what is Kirk Cousins' situation? They're thinking they're going to keep him, but everybody's like, are they really going to? It's like, all these things are massive question marks, but Jeremy Fowler says Steelers leaning towards fields.
Giants wanted Stafford bad. Now they're gauging all options.
Not everyone in the league convinced Falcons cut Cousins. Okay, so there's a chance he stays.
Carson Wentz, maybe he becomes the chief veteran quarterback for the Browns, would be awesome in Cleveland. Imagine him balancing on that elf in the middle of that field.
James to Carson. I mean, that is football heaven.
And then Daniel Jones being in the mix. Obviously, he was on the Vikings tail end of last year, but other teams that want a veteran quarterback to be able to get him.
And how cheap can you get all these guys is a massive question and part of it. Yeah, and for the Browns, Shefty did tell us, I think last week, like, hey, the Browns are taking a quarterback at two.
So the Carson Wentz thing kind of makes sense if that's the type of quarterback they're looking for, like a bridge, maybe even like a Mariota before Jaden Daniels just took off. So what, Deshaun just in the street clothes or not even at the game? I don't know, because he did his Achilles again.
And they're saying he's not going to be healthy, right? Yeah, he's rehabbing all year next year. So is he even at the games? Probably not.
No. I mean, why would you have him there? What a trade.
My God. What a trade.
Isn't that crazy? The worst trade. Change the face of the NFL.
Like, legit change the course of the NFL. Everything.
Guaranteed. Mullah get that day.
What day would you have? outs anyway. Texans got Stroud and Will Anderson.
It's our deal. Not your deal.
Right? Yeah, Texans win big. Big lot.
They win. A lot of people are talking about Cousins to the Browns just because Stefanski was with him at the Vikings and they had such success there at the Vikings that if they need a cheap quarterback.
And when Flacco was playing pretty similar style to Kirk Cousins yeah they had a lot of success were able to make it to the playoffs obviously in a run that none of us could have even fathomed and Kirk potentially in the middle of doing one of those deals where it's like yeah I'll take a million bucks because I'm making 28 from somewhere else yeah that's where like that cut report from Fowler so like vital to Cleveland success because if they don't cut him, they legitimately can't pay quarterbacks more money. They can't do it.
It is impossible. They'll completely cripple their entire team even more.
It'd be hilarious. I hope they do it, but still.
Miles Garrett not even open to negotiations. What a scene in Cleveland.
Get me out of here. Dental Ward saying if they trade Miles Garrett, then I want to get traded too.
He's like their other best player. Are they going to be able to field a team next year? Might be a UFL squad, speaking of.
Have you heard? On rest. AJ? They're holding out, some guys? Striking.
Yeah, holding out, I guess. The 130th to 150th ranked quarterbacks at the professional level are striking or holding out from the UFL training camp because they're commanding more money.
55,000, I think, was something that was mentioned in a report. These quarterbacks want more money, and I think the report out of the UFL last year is it lost $100 million or something.
We don't got the money. I want more money too.
Good luck to all parties over there. We'd like to see some spring ball.
We'd like to see spring highlights. We watch it every week.
Spring kicks. We'd like to see some spring.
As long as the kickers are playing, I think we've got highlights coming out of the UFL. That's the problem.
Bates last year. That's the problem.
If we're leading off of the kicking highlights. The issue is, the NFL holds on to like five quarterbacks right now.
Kickers only one on the roster. Or two.
So you're at like 33 in the world as opposed to 120 in the world at that position. So there's a chance you can get some good ones.
Nonetheless, we'll continue on YouTube, disney plus and tick tock live we'll see you tomorrow monday net raw tonight from buffalo on netflix what a great promo there at the end just really promoted it like a professional makes you feel like good you know it's gonna be good one too i'm pumped up for tonight dude fresh out of elimination chamber and everything in heaven the ufl convo though what you just chatted about with the kickers of kickers of the conversation, that's the real deal. These NFL teams all have four or five quarterbacks, and every young quarterback that's good or potentially good is going to the NFL, so they can't join the UFL.
So it's like, what level of competition? You have OGs. Remember AJ McCarron? Yeah.
One played in there. And then there's some guys that have become spring football legends, like the kid

that was on St. Louis originally.

Heineke was there.

Teammu.

Jordan Teammu. There's a couple guys that are

spring football legends at this point.

But to get

super high quality football

players at that position, the NFL

has it all gobbled up for opportunity

right now. It's tough.
It's very, very tough to run a spring league, I think. No wonder the final boss is so fucking pissed off.
I didn't think about that. He's losing $100 million.
He's got all the quarterbacks on the picket line. I don't know if it was $100 million.
It was reported as lost everything. He made a sizable investment into this and lost a lot of money.
He only made $90 this year. Now he's got the quarterbacks on the picket line.
No wonder he's pissed off. I don't know how it works out.
But as soon as I read that the quarterbacks are striking, I'm like, read the room. Are they striking for everybody, though? Are they striking? They want everybody's base pay to go up or just the quarterbacks? I think it's just quarterbacks.
Just QB. He might roll out Cena to throw the first pass this year.
He might make Cena play quarterback for the Argos or whoever the hell is in that league.

Argos or Canadian.

The Brahmers.

The Vipers.

Yeah, the Brahmers.

We're not talking about that right now because of everything that happened

and the things that have been said.

A lot of things have been said.

I get those teams mixed up.

The bullshit leagues I get mixed up.

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

CFL is a historic league.

Respect.

A lot of greats have played in the CFL.

UFL?

TBD. TBD.
Got two. I'm telling you.
Hey, haven't we tried? We've tried to get into the spring weeks. It's just hard.
XFL, USFL, UU, UFL. And now they've combined? They're all the UFL now? Is that what it is? Yeah.
Fox and ESPN, both TV partner. And they're like, that's a great deal.
In theory, football, both networks should do well. Yeah.
But instead, you turn it on, it's like, all right. The hell am I.
Is there a – Also, to be fair, though, I didn't – I mean, maybe I'm living under a rock. I wasn't sure the league was happening until I heard that these guys were holding out.
I didn't really know. We didn't know year two was around the corner either.
Okay. Now we do.
I do appreciate that they didn't start immediately after the Super Bowl. They gave us some time to, like, miss ball.
Remember, they went straight from Super Bowl into Spring League, and it was like, we just watched Patrick Mahomes versus Jalen Hurts and Saquon Barkley, and now we're watching, okay, it's going to be tough. It's going to be tough to take serious.
I know you guys want an opportunity. Football, more

football is good football. But what we

just watched for the last six months

first, what we're currently watching

is going to be difficult to kind of, even

with the college teams, the way these college teams have been played

with how good this college ball is.

So I like that they took a little bit of a break

here. To your point,

forgot about it completely until I heard that they were holding out or striking or whatever. And it's like, I hope they get it handled.
I do. It'd be cool if the NFL made every team's second stringer be the quarterback in the UFL.
Yeah, and then one injury happens, and everybody's sued. Third stringer.
Everyone's third stringer. Everybody's fourth stringer, even.
That's the thing. At this point, the rosters are what? 100 and whatever it is.
The NFL rosters. Yeah.
And they're stacked. They're all carrying three quarterbacks.
At least. Take the pads off.
Okay. Let's get physical.
Let's get violent. Let's do that lead that we saw.
Oh, the amateur. The semi-pro.
Yeah, the semi-pro one. Six beers to everyone before they start.
Sure. That can be your role, too.
Or just a couple of beers. A couple of beers.
Heard that's a prescription these days. Hey, Shane, way to go, brother.
So good. So good.
Proud of you, Shane. Shane Gillis just went in there and did it.
Rolls back the hand of time. Comedy.
Seemingly what he does. Drops into Saturday Night Live.
Has some of the greatest skits they've ever had. And then i'll see you later with a great mustache right now it's good hair he is starting the hair very thick the mustache very very attractive right now starting to look like a nice 45 year old professional adult you know you know a couple of beers can solve a lot of things for a lot of people especially shane as we know correct that's kind of the conversation correct around him that was method acting i do believe uh for shane opening monologue good great a couple callbacks and a seven minute monologue i don't think that's necessarily easy a lot of people call him a big dumb dipshit saying he lost it it's like actually much harder to do what he did proud of you shano representing football representing football out there yeah And the troops.
And the troops. Amen.
Two weeks or whatever. You know.

Whatever the... represent football represent football out there yeah and the troops and the troops amen two weeks or whatever you know whatever the case signed up thought he was the right guy decided he wasn't that's how much respect he has for them nobody ever talks about it from that angle you want to talk about football guys i saw jesse palmer covering the oscars yesterday i'm like shout out to football guy on the red carpet his range is unbelievable yes so attractive unbelievable and his information on all these movies and stuff, I'm like, oh, he must have just been given a packet before this whole thing.
I assume. Because I don't know how you're able to have...
He was great. Omar, the guy that runs the social media channel.
What's he doing out there? What's he doing? He's hosting. I saw him.
Is he doing like red carpet interviews? He looked very natural on a microphone, so makes sense he presented best picture didn't he did he i think so they're saying he actually owned the red carpet how's that he walked the distance of it i heard i heard and watched i don't know how that happens i don't know how that happens but go for him taking advantage of the opportunity fantastic why did i just take this whole long is a real question yeah there's 600 hosts that are paid to be on microphones That I would assume around ESPN That would be like jump at the opportunity To host the fucking Oscars So for the guy that runs the social media To be like I could do it I'm the one to do it It's an interesting move but I appreciate the moxie I appreciate the moxie out of Omar. Tagging himself in the whole thing.

As you should.

Who knows if that opportunity is going to come back around.

Hey, congrats, Omar.

Take advantage of it.

We don't know that.

You have no idea.

You have no idea.

I haven't seen the numbers.

It doesn't matter.

I'm not going to say it.

I'd be in the next Best Picture film. There's a chance.
Yeah, maybe he was Omar out of water. Doing a little scouting.
Yeah, maybe he was shaking some hands. That was a hell of a play.
That's what ESPN was representing that there. Then I saw Jesse Palmer on there.
I was like, all right, good. We do got some sports people here at the Oscars doing their thing.
And what happened at the Oscars? I fell asleep. I saw Conan do his thing.
I saw he came out to me more. I didn't expect that.
I'll tell you that. That was certainly a start to it all.
I appreciated the Wicked ladies doing what they did at the beginning. Sandman.
Adam Sandler being Adam Sandler. Classic.
I like Shadow Man. I loved everything about that.
That's kind of the problem. What was everything else that took place? I know you are like a film nut, if you will.
For sure, but the last several years, obviously having a couple young children kind of changes things because you can't really see as many of these movies or don't have time. But it's just so many of the movies are like, unless you're like a diehard film buff, like you're just not seeing them.
won best picture best actress best director it's bingo it kind of i think shocked a lot of people but it's like a very artsy thing like i i don't know i'm sure we could have but it's one of those things where like a lot of these movies anymore it's like they get released and it's like they have the like you can see them in new york and you can see them in la and then if you're lucky when they start to get start to get Oscar buzz, they'll release them nationwide and we'll be able to see them here several months. So they're literally saying, fuck the middle of America.
Kind of. And I don't know if that's the situation with this one.
Never heard of it. It popped up last night and I was like, I feel like I'm, at least on the internet, somewhat in the know.
Never even heard of this thing. Never even heard of it.
And I think a lot of people, too, were pissed off because Dune 2 is a movie that most of America saw. It was a big box office.
Chalamet, obviously, is super hot right now. But that's kind of one of the things where the Academy's like, fuck it.
We're not giving a best picture to a movie like this. This is kind of our thing.
We don't need something that everybody saw and everyone's going to get pissed about about and it's going to be the only movie that a lot of people saw out of this oscar batch so like not surprised that a movie like a nora won but i think that's also kind of the the problem with the oscars is like it really kind of um it kind of excludes a lot of like the basic movie going people who would watch the oscars because they've seen a couple of them yeah i'm not sure I got God, but didn't someone from the Academy say they didn't watch Dune 2? Correct. No, that was true.
Yeah, allegedly. Yeah, how is that even? And then they'll grandstand on us.
They didn't even watch the qualifying movies for their own awards. Like the guy that didn't vote for Lamar.
He put him like fifth for MVP. Bingo.
But he at least saw him and said he was doing it on purpose. That was a spiteful bullshit.
Is he blind? Is this man blind and deaf? Is this man can't hear or watch the games? The movies, though, it does feel like they... Did the Demi Moore movie get nominated for an Academy Award? Yes.
That was actually the biggest upset of the one. Did anyone see it? Anyone watch that movie? No.
I saw Conan O'Brien come out of her back, so I think there's probably something that happens in that movie. I saw it.
I watched it. Demi Moore, she's great.
She is great. And I watched it, and I my wife and I watched it, and we it's the weirdest it's just, it's not good at all.
It's really poor. We watched it, and we were waiting for it.
Okay, this might, this is going to turn into something. Here we go.
And it got weirder and weirder and more bizarre And then it ended I was blown away when I heard When I told my wife Hey, I think that was up for a Golden Globe Whenever that was She almost hit me You always lie I didn't know that Let's go ahead and talk about that. That's what his wife said.
Well, she thought I was messing with her when I said, oh yeah, I got, you know, like some horrendous turd movie that I thought I liked. Hey, it's actually up for an Academy Award.
She thought I was doing one of those. Oh, that'd be an A.P.
It actually is. Yeah.
Got it. Yeah.
To be more of a spoke to win Best Actor. Watch it.
For that. So you watched it.
We did not. I only saw the open with Conan coming out of her spine and then going back in.
I'm like, didn't know it was that type of i had no idea it was that type of movie is that what's happening there's somebody living inside of her yeah she she gets this like potion that she can shoot herself up she's like an aging superstar they started the oscars with a needle like going yeah it gets nasty it's gross honestly the movie gets like gross the more it goes and how they and how you're trying to navigate going back and forth from the young body to your old body. Okay, yeah.
It's great. It's artsy.
Zito, I have a screen here. We added a screen here for any breaking news to pop up and it's direct to Zito's computer.
So whatever pops up on Zito's computer is popping up on the screen right here. These photos from movie are something it is gross it's gross man it gets like nasty this is what zito just popped up on the screen this screen is getting me a word i couldn't believe like we yeah i just i don't know i don't know how to describe it interesting i uh well i appreciate the arts and i appreciate people that are super creative and do their thing but like she was great great to see demi more do well like she was great and i love i love entertainment and i like the creation of things i like people being artsy and everything like i legitimately do i appreciate and respect everybody's art but it's like for these awards like you got all of us watching i hate that they're almost doing it like in spite of us like because we like things because we're dumb because we're just dumb doofuses that like you know shoot them up movies that's what they think yeah so we're cool our good movie but like great isn't that what movies are for you know what movies are movies made to entertain people and be watched and things like that without a doubt i just don't think there's not really like now it's either like super artsy movies like that or it's like superhero movies there is like no in between really in the theaters because they just don't make money so is netflix uh they're now being respected for the films that they are making um i think one of the movies last night like zoe's saldana uh she won best supporting actress i believe that was a netflix movie so that might be like the first kind of uh movement but in the past it's been like, no, fuck that.
Coda, a couple years ago, was on Apple TV. That kind of changed it a little bit.
But traditionally, they're giving Oscars to movies that are in the theaters, not just going right to the stream. Roma.
Roma won that one time. That was a famous director.
That was a Netflix movie. And then, to your point about the archiness of it, I went to watch the movie that the guy who won Best Actor, Adrian Brody, he won Best Actor.
Nice smooch. So he was sucking face with Halle Berry? Yeah, in front of his wife and his wife was cheering him on.
So even cooler. That movie's three and a half hours long.
So I went to watch it and it was three and a half hours. So you're an hour and a half in.
There's no end in sight. I didn't even start it.
I'm not doing this. I'm not going golfing here.
I'm just trying to squeeze in a movie before the Oscars and try and watch it. But it's like, that's Oscar bait.
It's about a Jewish dude post-World War II and it's this super long movie that immediately the average person is going to see

three and a half hours and be like, fuck that.

I'm not watching. Can they get a People's Oscar then?

They've talked about doing that.

So at least we feel like we're a part of this thing.

Great idea. That's what MTV Movie Awards are for.

VMAs? You talking about the VMAs?

And the movie.

Yeah, the little astronaut thing.

SAGS felt like they were trying

to maybe entertain humans

a little bit more. I think so.
That's a little bit more

Thank you. Yeah, the little astronaut thing.
The SAGs felt like they were trying to maybe entertain humans a little bit more. I think so.
That's a little bit more fun. Not as stuffy and pretentious.
But the Oscars, this is just what they're known for, huh? Kind of. And I feel like as the conversation about movies and movie theaters being dead has kind of come up a lot more in the last five years or since COVID, I think they've kind of firmed their stance on like okay well like if no one's going to the movies then fuck the fuck the audience like let's just let's do the shit that we like we would like to say to the academy that uh we'd like to shake their hands like we're gonna watch your award shows like we watch them and we appreciate all the work that goes into it if you just think about us like we want we would like to you know maybe rally behind a movie they used to you know that has a chance to win just like teams you know you see a team early you don't know about bow and riley behind let's go win it's like it's hard to pay attention whenever it's like who is it and then my natural reaction is to start making fun of everybody you know like why why is timmy not winning all these awards the only guy i know he got robbed yeah and the bob dylan thing i i'm not a big like obviously i know of bob dylan i've heard his songs i know he's incredibly deep thinker i know he's a trailblazer but i don't think anybody would consider me like bob dylan guy which i think a lot of bob dylan people thought he would have to be a bob dylan person to enjoy that movie in its entirety or whatever i watch it i'm like this guy feels like he nailed it yes this feels like And then when everybody's like pushing them and then I meet them, I'm like, it's going to be a Bob Dylan person to enjoy that movie in its entirety or whatever.
I watch it. I'm like, this guy feels like he nailed it.
Yes. This feels like he nailed it.
And then when everybody's like pushing him and then I meet him, I'm like, this guy's a superstar. This guy's an absolute superstar.
And obviously him and Sandman being able to hang like that, especially two hoopers like they are having that moment. That was like very relatable.
That felt good. Yeah.
It was like, this is the guy. I ain't not winning anything.
I don't win anything. That's the problem.
You're sitting up there and don't win anything. This is the guy.
So they don't like that others, like College Game Day saying, this is the guy. They're like, is that right? We'll be the ones.
There might be a little bit of that to it, but like Leo, they made him wait forever. A lot of people thought he should have won Best Actor 20 years ago, and they just made him wait and wait and wait and wait.
And then finally, he won it for a movie where everyone was like, well, this is bullshit. They shouldn't have even won it for this one.
But it's kind of just like, hey, you pay your dues, and then you give your career to the film industry, and then we'll make it right at some point. I'm not saying that's what's happening with Timmy Chalamet, but I wonder if people get a little sour because he was the main character in Dune 1 and Dune 2.
It's like this big tentpole action movie franchise. And then Complete Unknown as well.
Yeah, exactly. I think they kind of look So they get jaded at how good this guy is.
That's great. For sure.
That can motivate you, Timmy. Even your own people don't want you to be great.
They don't want you to win. You will, though.
You know why? Because you're looking up to Michael Jordan, Michael Phelps, and the greats in the acting. I can't wait to watch it with that yellow suit.
Also, does it matter? The Rock's never going to win an Oscar. Cena will though.
Cena might. Cena's like actual actor.
Not that The Rock isn't, but The Rock is in rock movies. Yeah.
You know? John Cena. He's an action star.
John Cena's, like, doing. He's got range.
Big time range. Yeah.
Yeah. Did, what was it? Vinicky? Ricky Stenicki.
Ricky Stenicki. Was that up for the Oscars? No, it wasn't.
It wasn't. What? Yeah.
I know, but believe it or not, it wasn't. But that is why Cena has a chance, because The Rock is never not going to be the star in one of his movies.
You know, like, he's not playing a bit part. Well, why would he? The guy made $88 million off of Blockbuster.
Exactly. Number one, did you see The Red One, which everybody was talking about? Oh, man, I loved Red One.
Did you see the video? It was the number one premiere in the history of Amazon or something like that. It was a great movie.
I saw it in the promo for The Rock during Elimination Chamber. They ran this video about The Rock and how did we get here.
They had Red One on the screen. I'm like, I like this movie.
I'm excited to see what they say. They say, number one premiere in the history of Amazon or whatever it was on.
It's like, of course. Million Dollar Global, Moana 2, this ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba.
You think he's going to be a co-star? Moana Well, I say that and I say he's not going to win an Oscar, but he is going to be in a movie with fucking Scorsese. True.
Leo and Emily. So there's a chance that he could.
Go get it. Cena's going to win awards for Peacemaker.
Season two coming out this summer. You're talking about being committed to whatever.
Now, granted, he's committed to winning the 17th title. Love it.
Love it. Let's get to a break.
Damn it, John. Cena turned heel.
D-Bone had to make this graphic right here. Cena turns heel! Cena turns heel! I had to.
I had to make this graphic. He was doing this no matter what.
He was sending group texts that I'm a part of during the Elimination Chamber. Damn it, Cena.
talent go into business for yourself d-bone saying he did made absolute cinema he made the right decision cena certainly did that's what he said that's what d-bone was texting i'm i'm sitting there and obviously if shit comes near us or if anything's happening i stand up move phone's in front of me i pick it up group text d- has like five texts i'm like what's he saying all right holy fuck shit that was awesome man you and me way to tell the rock to go to hell go fuck himself we get sound on this video

wow Wow.

What the?

Trying to snap his car, man. Block you.

Killed me.

Oh, no.

More, he says.

Oh, my God, John.

What the hell are you doing?

Oh, cool.

He's taking a Rolex and punching him in the face.

Always has a plan.

I was pretty jacked up in this moment.

You should be.

Not to be. I'll tell you what.

What a moment to be sitting there.

Cena with brass knuckles.

It's a Rolex pole.

Cody could have had every Rolex he could have ever dreamed of.

But instead, he's getting his ass beat by from Cena. Terry, John.
Oh, the American Nightmare, and Travis Scott's about to get his in, too. Travis Scott's about to get his in, too.
He had the biggest shot of the night. Yes, he did.
That smacked in the face. Holy shit.
Holy shit. It's a hammer fist.
I mean, like, actually. He blew his eardrum.
He might be out for mania. tell me wrestling isn't real, damn it.
Bro, I don't know if the American Nightmare has been smacked like that at some time. No, because he didn't work as a champion.
He turns his head. Holy shit.
What the fuck, man? Already bleeding. Let's get to a break.
On the other side, we'll wrap up all the news from around. That's no fun.
That's like Bianca Belair's whip to live. Holy shit, man.
I miss the Mama Rhodes part. That elimination chamber, both of them.
Here, turn it sound, sound, sound, sound. And Liv Morgan just using Belair's hair to try to hang on for dear life.
And this could turn ugly for both wins. Oh! Oh! Liv Morgan just got whipped by Belair and she's hanging on now.
Jeez. And she collapses to the floor.
She had a welt growing on her body as the match continued. And she kept like, obviously anytime we tried to show it, she was like covering up because that has to hurt so bad.
She posted the welts and the bruises that she's had since then. It's like, damn, you want to be a wrestler, huh? That's what people, you know, my dream is to be a professional wrestler.
It's like, OK, about to get your fucking ass beat. That can happen out of nowhere.
No, that's not how it goes. Right.
I've's like oh yeah yeah then do it again two days later yeah go ahead and get one yeah not even yeah one day sometimes it's a whole thing what a show elimination chamber was from beginning to end lucky to be a part of it rapper sean diddy combs was a king maker. He had wealth, fame, and power.
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Love the hat. Yeah, I love it too, man.
Appreciate it. Have you ever been? Nope.
Does it exist? Sure. You poser.

What? He's supporting. Yeah.
He's showing support. We don't even know what it's true.
You're talking about the CC? You're talking about the... The what? The what? What's that? You're talking about the Compton Country Club.
Yeah. Yeah, it exists.
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So, yeah, I'm cool with CCC. Yeah, you know me.
Yeah, absolutely. Great hat.
Appreciate you. It is a clean hat.
Yeah, and you're doing a lot for the community. Thanks for bringing that up.
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I'm pumped about it. Sorry we had to ruin your day.
Anyways, some NFL headlines that we have not chatted about. Big ones, actually.
Deebo Samuel of the San Francisco 49ers formally has been traded to the Washington Commanders. Now, this is obviously a big deal because it only came for a fifth-round pick.

Now, I believe Washington's picking up his money,

so that is a part of the contract and conversation.

$17.55 million for a top-wide receiver.

Jaden Daniels gets another weapon.

A lot of people are saying, for a fifth-round pick,

we could have got Debo Samuel.

Fifth-round pick, $17.5 million.

Now, there's going to have to be a new contract that's going to have to be discussed, we would assume.

The Commanders obviously understand the situation before they make the trade or finalize the trade.

But Debo leaves San Fran.

Last year was Iyuk, who might be on the move yet again.

This year, it's Debo getting traded.

The Niners always have something seemingly, AJ.

What are your thoughts on a fifth-round pick for Debo Samuel?

Yeah, it does not seem like you have to give up much to get Debo when you say, yeah, only a fifth-rounder.

And then, so this is the last year on his contract, correct, where they owe 17.55 mil? Yes. Is that right? Yes.
And they were probably, yes, agreed to a long-term contract. But, yeah, I mean, I think this is a heck of a deal for Washington here.
And obviously the Niners are going to do something with him. They, you know, whenever receivers get, like, I don't know, how old is Debo? He's not old.
29. 29 years old.
Okay, yeah. Dang, that dude's still young.
What a great pickup for Washington. I like it.
And it seems also like a change of scenery is what is needed, too, I think, to spark Debo, even though the guy is still awesome. Him and Terry McLaurin are quite a dog duo for Jaden Daniels going into year two with Cliff Kingsbury sticking around.
So the same exact offense. And anything we hear about quinn over there is he likes dogs like that's what he he is a dog mentality person feels like debo should fit in right away have to get a deal done but this feels like an easy trade for the commanders to pull the trigger on yeah but ship ship should be should be good for him he didn't have a great year last year um you know i don't know how healthy he was but did not have a year last year.
So we'll see. We know around the league these skill positions, once you get to that 30 mark, still young nuts, but a lot of people, the decision makers, they start to look at guys, okay, maybe they're falling off a cliff.
But another weapon, Clint Kingsbury, this offense, a lot of hurry up. So you get this guy, get screens, get him out in space.
He is a tough, tough, tough guy to tackle. We know what Terry McLaurin is down the field.

I would assume that they get even more

firepower on the outside in this draft this

year. It should be an exciting offense

that just continues to trend upward. All Cliff

has to do is just give him slants.

He's slant god.

That is what Debo does. Get the ball in his hands.

Because he's a running back. Also

has the ability to be a running back.

That's not a slight, even though he might

take it as a slight, or people might say it's a slight.

He's a wide receiver who can also play

Thank you. He's a running back.
Also has the ability to be a running back. That's not a slight, even though he might take it as a slight or people might say it's a slight.
He's a wide receiver who can also play running back. So if you get the ball in his hands in traffic, he's not scared, first of all.
And then his yak is normally absurd. Obviously not this past season, but you're banking on him coming back to full form, especially with Jaden, who's been able to throw over the middle since he got to the league, which not every quarterback has the ability to do.
Yeah, especially with Jaden on that contract. Like, them getting Debo is awesome, but can you imagine if they go out and get another one? Like, what? Devontae and Cooper Cup, both still out there.
And Terry McLaurin has never in his entire career had a number two like Debo Samuel. So I assume Terry McLaurin is going to be way better.
And also, you know, Debo didn't have a great year last year. Ayuk was hurt.
You know, Christian McCaffrey was hurt. Debo was kind of the focal point of the offense.
So everyone was focusing on him. And now you can't do that with Jaden Daniels, especially with Terry, but also him moving.
And they got, you know, Brian Robinson Jr. Like Washington really is now one of the top markets to go to.
And they got a ton of cast space. I don't remember.
Debo hates us? No. I don't think so.
On receivers, he was watching the program. No, he likes us.
He's been on the show. On that documentary.
No, I remember last time he was on the show, he was like, wasn't that average? He was like super mad. It was Super Bowl week, and they had just gotten beat.
Oh, yeah. It was a James Cook situation.
Oh, yeah. Okay, okay, okay.
For San Fran, for them to give him up and just get a fifth round pick, you would have just assumed they just wanted that money off the books. Going forward, the biggest question for San Fran is the health of Christian McCaffrey.
If he's healthy, he makes that all go. What's that? They're paying Brock.
Oh, yeah. So, they're about to pay Brock.
So, $17.5 million off the table is good news yeah because he wasn't drafted high he's never had real money he's actually been living with a roommate and almost going into debt living in san francisco as the starting quarterback of the 49ers in the time that we're in the nfl with how much money quarterbacks are making brock was making nothing he actually did a couple john deere commercials that might have supplemented maybe a car for him or a truck for him to get to work he had a suitcase i think he carried around with him and then he had those uh shit kickers and those jeans that's basically all he owned you know because he uh number the last overall pick uh in the draft so this is just like when russell wilson was up for his first time it's like hometown discounts like i've Yeah. Big discounts.
Big discounts. And you guys were able to do a lot of things because of it.
And it's like getting Brock Purdy's deal done now is better than getting it done later because maybe another quarterback gets done and the price bumps up another $10 million. These quarterback contracts are absurd.
And it's like Brock Purdy should be above everybody. 55.
That just got paid. Isn't Dak getting 60? Somebody getting 60? Yeah, Dak is.
He ain't getting more than that. Do you think he deserves more than Dak? Definitely.
But does he want Trent Williams at left tackle? Yeah, so now you're getting into the hometown discount conversation. Will Brock Purdy, Iowa State guy from Arizona, will he be a guy That says Hey You know what $45 million a year Is a lot of money No way No way I just want to go in At 60 55 I'll sit on But 60 I'll say You know what He'll give up 5 million Will Brock Purdy Be a guy Because of his Humility And I'm not saying Don't Brock.
Obviously, there's going to be a lot of people saying, take as much as you can get, Brock. But will Brock sit there with John Lynch? And he'll say, you know what? I do want us to build up around me.
I want to win these games. Give me $47.5 million a year.
Yeah, I'm leaving potentially $13 million on the table if he was to go somewhere else. You say Dak deserves more than him.
like i understand that dak's been a great quarterback he's done a lot of magical things like brock party just gets dropped in a league has won that is literally what he has done it's the system it's the people it's okay whatever the case is some team if they heard brock party was available with how young he is and how much success he is there's some team magic kevin o'connell with brock party. They're not going to pay somebody $60 million a year.
But I'm just saying there would be somebody that would be like, we could pay him. I'm not saying he deserves more than anybody.
I'm not saying, look, you get what you can get. You know what I mean? When it's your time to go and the salary cap jumped up to what this year? $279.2.
Yeah, so if he can get that much, for sure but dac was already coming off of a huge contract and he was getting another one so this will be his first big payday um so yeah and obviously you know john lynch and everybody are going to play those you know games about building a team and do you want to be a winner and all those kind of conversations uh you got you got to hit while you got to strike while the iron is hot he's done nothing but phenomenal things while I've been a starting quarterback in NFL.

So I hope he definitely does get more than Dak and reset that market. He does strike

me as that kind of guy, though.

What kind of guy? As a guy.

I don't think he's going to go in there and be like, hey, I

want $61 million. But that's

how this works. That is literally how this

works in this quarterback market. It's like

who was the last signed person? Okay,

am I worthy of being the next guy? Yes. Okay, I'm getting more than the previous guy.
That's just how the quarterback deals have literally gone. Even with people who are not worthy, they have somehow deemed them worthy and they get more than the previous high.
It's like Dak's at 60 so if Brock's agent is agenting, which I assume I don't know who his agent is, but I could just see if they come in and just start at 55. Boom.
Good enough with me. Yep.
Let's sign this. Let's do it.
52.5 million? Shit. That's a lot of money.
Right. I'm good.
I could take 62 now. You know that.
Make sure we do good with this 10 million. Whatever the case, we hope Rock Purdy gets paid immensely.
John Lynch spoke at the combine about IUK as well and having to get

younger. The reason why you have to get younger is because you're paying a quarterback.
You see, this is the game. Young quarterback, not a lot of money, so you can pay a lot of other people.
Once quarterback becomes through one contract, now quarterback eating up a lot of your money that you had being sent out to other positions. So now you got to get younger because the younger guys are cheaper.
Speaking of cheap, the Bengals are able to keep T. Higgins for another year at a cheaper rate than what he was hoping for or expecting.
He has officially been franchise tagged by the Cincinnati Bengals. Sad.
26.2 million franchise tagged for T. Higgins, second year in a row.
This second straight year with the Bengals have used it on Tee Higgins. Remember, last year he got franchise tagged, and we saw a vlog from he, and I believe his mom even tweeted, and he was like, I'm going to be a professional.
They tagged me. There's a lot of money.
I'm going to show up and do my thing. He did.
Then we thought maybe he was going to hit the open market. The open market would have been very good to Tee Higgins.
Certified number one in everybody's eyes. Hasn't been able to, unless Jamar Chase hasn't been on the field.
It doesn't matter who's in the field or who's a quarterback or who's doing what. T Higgins.
Certified number one in everybody's eyes. Hasn't been able to unless Jamar Chase hasn't been on the field.
Doesn't matter who's in the field or who's a quarterback or who's doing what. T.
Higgins has done a fantastic job for the Cincinnati Bengals and has been a consummate pro in their locker room. I think from all the videos we've seen, he is beloved by the boys which is a big deal, especially at the wide receiver position.
There are teams that would have been willing to pay him a lot of money, including the New England Patriots,

as Boston Conner literally just sighed because of the franchise tag.

But this means absolutely nothing.

Franchise tag can be traded.

No deal has been done, and T. Higgins hasn't signed a franchise tag.

So what this means is Cincinnati Bengals want to keep T. Higgins in their world.

Will that end up being the case whenever the season starts out?

TBD, A.J. Hawk.

TBD, and we hear their front office talk about,

hey, you can't keep everybody, right?

We'll be right back. their world will that end up being the case wherever the season starts out tbd aj hawk tbd and we we've i mean we hear their front office talk about hey you can't keep everybody right we got these stars it's a great problem to have but we got to find a way to pay these guys and keep them happy we got trey henderson jamar that they they're going to have to figure this whole situation out and i would imagine t yeah i mean 26.2 that's that's a great number for one year but he knows okay i want, hey, I want some job security after that as well.
Yeah, this is exactly what Schefter told us, because I did sigh, and I am pissed off about it, but then I immediately thought, oh, Schefter told us last week at the combine. This was kind of always the plan, was that he would get tagged, and that if he is going to get traded, it would be a post-franchise tag so that they can get some sort of compensation in return for compensation in return for it.
Now, who knows what that is? You would assume it would be at least a second and another pick after that. But, I mean, it's just a bummer for Tee Higgins, man.
I want that guy to get paid $30-plus million. There's some rule, hey, man, we think he's earned it, and obviously that's the wide receiver market currently.
That's a lot of money. 26-point whatever is a lot of money as well.
Long-term compensation is what he's thinking about because you can get hurt in the blink of an eye in this world especially in football as a whole um the trade clause thing after you get franchise tagged we looked into when lamar jackson was going through his thing and we thought that the nfl rule stated like it had to be at least two ones or something like that turns out that's not real from what we've heard like that is very negotiable like teams can trade anything basically for a player as if he was on the roster so we will continue to like try to get answers on that whole thing because if you franchise that guy that just extends your rights of him through free agency basically so now for those picks that has to be like it's like an offer sheet like t would have to sign that and then Bengals would have to be like, okay, yeah, go ahead, take him. We'll take your ones or whatever.
But they could just work out a trade without him having to sign that. Yeah, it's all a negotiation.
Everything's still just very much an open negotiation for T. Higgins as a Cincinnati Bengals.
Yeah, if we look up the Titans-Legereus-Sneed contractor trade negotiation, he got tagged and then traded last year to the Titans from the Chiefs.

And T just tweeted the words tag, T-A-G, with a period.

So I don't know if he's happy about it or he was just breaking his own.

I think he's probably breaking his own.

Oh, no, that's like tag, you're it.

It's a good movie, too.

Tag, by the way.

Great movie.

Remember, we mocked that movie.

That was great.

True story.

And it was actually great.

It was a great movie.

Didn't win any awards, I see. No, it didn't.
Too enjoyable. So, T.
Higgins, franchise tag, what are your thoughts? I mean, to everybody's point, I would love to see him hit the open market and get paid. He is in a very, very, very good situation for a wide receiver, being with one of the best quarterbacks in the league, being on the other side of Jamar Chase, who's getting a lot of those same coverages that Justin Jefferson was talking about, a lot of double teams and triple teams coming off a triple crown year.
And, you know, a lot of people say, you know, certified one, if he goes to another team, he's a one. I'm always kind of in the boat where I got to see that to believe it.
But talent-wise, he definitely has all the tools. He has a height, has a strength, has a play speed, has the hands.
I would love to see him get his just due on the open market. But it looks like he's either going here for a year, hopefully gets traded, get paid somewhere.
Or has Mike Brown already said there's no long-term contract happening in Cincinnati? Nope, I don't think so. They've been very open.
Ideally was the word that everybody was using at the combine when they were speaking at press conferences. Hey, are you going to be able to get a deal done? Ideally, we'd be able to get a deal.
Ideally, we'll be able to get it done. Ideally, everything is in play.
I think everybody was saying that, not just the Browns, or the Bengals, I'm sorry. But it's like ideally is a situation that doesn't deal with reality.
You're not going to be able to get everything done. I think that is kind of the convo.
Yeah, Duke Tobin said he wanted to get a long-term deal done with him and also make Jamar the highest paid non-quarterback in the league.

Ideally.

That ain't happening.

He said, that's cap.

That's what T said.

Cap it up.

And then Schefter comes on our show

and he goes, I recently learned

what the cap means. Basically

means he's, and we cut him off, bullshit. He goes, it's crazy that this is the, yeah, but this is real world.
That is the player communicating with the world their opinions. Just so happens to be.
Straight up. Cap and dog.
Dummy ass cap. This is a part of being successful.
It's not easy. Niners going through it.
Bengals going through it. Obviously, the Indianapolis Colts are going to go through it here in a few years.
A few years, a few decades. Two years away.
2040, going to be a brutal year. It's going to be a tough offseason.
A few years, bro. It's going to happen.
I hear you, man. We've got a lot coming.
This year? Are the Colts looking at Aaron, you think? I don't know. I've thought about that.
I've got a lot of people in my mentions obviously saying don't even fucking think about Colts fansts fans not all colts fans are necessarily uh necessarily happy with me you know because everything that happened which i respect once again hey there's a lot of people angry at me at all times i think there's i think there's more that agree with you then i agree with that notion but there's a lot of people like we don't need to do the whole super veteran quarterback song and dance again yeah we've done it a lot i can sure that makes a lot. I mean, you don't want to be going into year three with your quarterback.
You draft the top five, saying it's going to be an open competition. I know that sucks for Chris.
Not ideal. That is not ideal.
Ideally not. Would you rather have Rodgers, or would you rather they bring in fucking Dan Jones? I read the list of people that were allegedly reported to be in the open competition with Anthony Richardson.
Pretty flabbergasted by it all. Dan Jones, to be honest.
Bring Carl back. Jacoby Brissett could come back.
I like that. Could be in it.
He's good for New England. Daniel Jones.
Fields. Justin Fields, potentially.
Russ. Maybe.
I didn't see Russ's name in there, but maybe Russ in there. I didn't see Aaron or Kirker in there, anything like that.
I'm excited for the Open competition. Everybody's going to get better.
What if we got Sam? Darnold. Okay.
With Steichen? We were one play away two years ago. Not this past season, the season before.
Gardner Mitchell made it to a Pro Bowl. We had one drop ball.
We're the AFC South

champs. Everything that the Houston Texans

did in the playoffs. Remember, miraculous run

this Houston Texans team? That was supposed to be us.

Home playoff game. In the suite.

Worth the money.

A couple plays away. Steelers just traded

their first round

quarterback after two years.

They got a sixth or seventh for it. So you get that for AR.

Ideally, that's not how it goes either. That guy's a Super Bowl champion now.
He is. Hey, man.
Took snap. He ended the Super Bowl.
Yeah. Congrats, Kenny Pickett.
Proud of you, Kenny Pickett. You maybe trade AR to Cleveland for the third pick.
You could. Second pick.
Who says no? They did it to you, remember? Remember they fleeced you guys? Who? Cleveland? Yeah. How did they fleece us? Got Lombardi.
I'm running back. Trent Richardson.
Yeah, we all know. Alombo's a junior? Trent's a good guy.
We don't need to be doing that. I like Trent Richardson.
Yeah, well, me too, but we just did something. No, he's a great guy.
He just wasn't. He didn't end up working out for us.
Wasn't great for the Colts. Wasn't great for us.
He's told that story. Dude, remember Jim Irsay? He was the third pick the year before, right? Jim Irsay was posting earth-shattering news coming to the Indianapolis Colts.
It's crazy. Yeah, it was earth-shattering, and they raised the taxes.
That was earth-shattering. Irsay did that? Yeah.
What are you talking about? You know exactly what I'm talking about. Well, there was a point, I guess, where it was rumored, before I got here, before they had this new stadium, Lucas Oil, that maybe the Colts leave, you know? Maybe the Colts leave and go somewhere else.
St. Louis? No, I don't think St.
Louis. It did happen in St.
Louis. Oh, I'm saying now.
But L.A. was the place that was like, maybe the Colts go to L.A.
It was like floating. L.A.
Colts. Then allegedly there was like a potential helicopter that flew and site surveyed, which I am very familiar with.
Sure. Doing site surveys.
No doubt. Then you just have to do one.
Yeah, yeah. The NFL is making it really easy for us to do stuff.
It's very kind of them. It's very cool.
It's very cool. I'm very appreciative of the opportunity to showcase your shit in the manner.
No red tape? No hoops you gotta jump through? No. Middle management's doing exactly what they don't normally do.
They're making it easy. It's awesome.
Those people matter for sure. You guys are really good at your jobs.
You guys are really good at your jobs. Thank God they're there.
Without them, could you imagine nobody would watch? Nobody would watch the NFL if it wasn't for these people being there. Yeah, there's me measuring just to make sure there's enough space in a stadium for our show to be.
I even checked out up top. I'll be at the 300 levels.
Can we fit in here if we had to? Just to make sure there's enough space. And this is the entire concourse just trying to get it just to see if there's enough space in a stadium.
All the dims. Yeah, just trying to see if we have enough space in a stadium for us to be.
Thank you. We were invited by you guys to do this.
Thank you. By people above you to do this.
Thank you. Thank you so much for making everything so easy.
With that being said, we'll be doing the Draft Spectacular live from the Thunderdome this year. Much warmer.
Yeah, it is. It'll be live from the Thunderdale.

It's great.

It's great.

Wanted to get a Green Bay.

Have a lot of ties to Green Bay.

The person joining us might have

a very massive tie to Green Bay,

but not in the cards.

Not in the cards.

Also,

not in the cards.

Thank you to

this level,

I think.

I don't even know.

Maybe even one more right here of the NFL. It's great.
These people are awesome. Very appreciative.
I understand we've got Guard Shield, too. We get invited to do stuff, and then I have to do the...
This is really my... This is when I'm in my best.
Whenever these things are happening. Can assume we are fucking off for the league meetings this year as well.
Yeah, I don't think we want to. We will be covering league meetings from Thunderdome.
Yeah, okay. Thank you for the invite to the people that invited us that are up here.
So thank you to for that. It's good.
It's great. It's great.
It's a great league. Very lucky to be a part of it.
Play a part of it. Very, very lucky.
And thank God for those people. I mean, what I'm doing.
The UFO. Holy shit.
The lifeblood. Yeah, you're right.
Holy hell. When they walk into that office, too, they probably turn on that light.
They look in the mirror. It's because of me.
Let me sit down. Whose day can I ruin? And then they just go about doing it.
Classic management it's great they're great still bergen thank god for that yeah still doing it still doing i think that's all potentially uh we'll leave it at that okay let's get to a break okay we'll be back tomorrow hey j will you hit up aaron please yeah i mean is, is he in country? Do we know? That's what we're saying. I'm not sure.
Figure it out. That's what we're saying to you.
I'll try to figure it out. Yeah, I'll try to figure it out.
I might try to get him to Life 360. You ever seen that? People can track their kids, see where your kids are at? Yeah.
Maybe I'll try to get them to do that. I don't think I fully understand what you're...
So what is it? It's like an app where you can... An app where your family, if they have phones, you can see where they're at so you know like where your children might like oh so hold on don't in done that already on phones people have location trackers and shit on people yeah you can find my yeah but it's just it puts it all in one place makes it easy some people put microchips in their kids microproxies like who does that they have them swallow it or they inject it into their arm.
What? Who's doing that?

Plenty of people.

In our world right now?

Oh, yeah.

Cats and dogs, maybe.

That's a movie.

That's a Justin Timberlake movie where he's got the clock.

In time.

Oh, too real, my friend.

That's what you thought about.

I have to watch that.

I was going to put an air tag in my daughter's shoe,

but she has too many goddamn shoes.

What's that, buddy?

I was going to put an air tag in my daughter's shoe,

but she has too many goddamn shoes. Yeah, I guess whenever you I was going to put an AirTag in my daughter's shoe, but she has too many goddamn shoes.

Yeah, I guess whenever you hear those horror stories

of kids just getting picked up and stuff like that,

you need to track them down.

Backpack.

Get her a backpack.

Backpacks are cool.

Those are cool accessories.

Yeah.

I think I'm going to go to the chip route.

Maybe get a good chance for her.

Don't go that route. Tony's going to go home and perform surgery inject the chip that feels like a lot that feels weird I'd sleep better at night you have that stocking tracking machine you were just talking about right there nope I do not that is not my thing exactlychipping kids? That's what Frank sounded very confident when he was saying it back.

Would I say it if I didn't?

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

Well, you would allude.

You would narrative build.

Remember?

Like he has done with these AIs and everything.

He would say, like, the worst possible outcome to build a narrative, potentially.

Hasn't lied yet, man.

Google says next.

Google says next slide.

Really? See, this is worst possible scenario.'s looking at he's looking at the google ai so i'm not no i'm not i don't know

who's it's neither feasible nor ethical there's currently no technology that allows for a micro

trip to actively track a person's location real time so once again this is nick narrative building

hey this is the worst possible outcome it's going to get there this is what you were doing nick

without even knowing it this is what you were doing we do it the dogs they're doing it the kids

Thank you. time so once again this is nick narrative building hey this is the worst possible outcome it's gonna get there this is what you were doing nick without even knowing it this is what you were doing we do it to dogs they're doing it to kids you can't do it to your dog you can't chip your dog well i think you're like gonna have you have to leave yeah have to chip your dog in some places so you find your dog but that doesn't mean time track them isn't it they if the vet finds them they can scan them and see if they, and get their info? Yeah, sure.
They can't track them, sure. I know if you adopt a dog, they are all chipped.
I know I don't like being tracked. I know adults have them, too.
They use them as keys to their houses. What, the dog? No, just microchips in their arm.
Come on. That is not happening.
100%. You just 100%ed this other one.
Okay, make this one 1,000, then. 1,000 thousand percent people are walking up like their arm with a key fob oh yeah okay charge it here scanning it at the gas station that'd be sweet i want some uh bigly gum let me go ahead that would be that's the apple wash hey right yeah yeah but they're saying inside the skin age how'd you get on on and off the ship how often did you get on and off the ship? Don't you have a little, you have a wristband, right? Scan you on, scan you off? No, you have a little key card that you carry.
You can get on and off. No microchip or anything.
Yeah, how come people don't do that? Key card's not good enough. We got to do the microchipping.
When I went on vacation, I wore a wristband that got you in and out of your room and paid for stuff. It was sweet.
Pretty nice? Yeah. You wore that everywhere? Yeah.
Did you feel like you were like their mark? I didn't think about it. Scared my wristband! How was the tan? Did you get a tan on your wrist? I don't think so.
The wristband probably has a little camera and a microphone in it. Did you watch it and wristband it? Yeah.
Okay, on top of each other. Yep.
Good play. I mean, changes the way

you look completely.

Sure, but everyone was doing it.

Yeah, easy convenience.

Nick did it too.

Easy convenience.

I love you, threw Nick under the bus.

Eh, got in the back.

Nick did it, Nick did it.

Yeah, I didn't wear mine

the whole time though.

I took it off.

I mean, that makes life

a lot easier at those resorts.

No doubt.

Boom, bang, pow.

How you doing?

But for life,

I don't know if we're doing that.

Not yet. But you're tracked everywhere anyways.
No matter where you on camera yep that's a fact that's why that's what i learned from daylight i mean your phone phones are tracking everything yeah but i never turned on siri so true yeah so i'm with you i don't i do not like siri at all have you ever heard of uh man i'm gonna sound like uh what i'm gonna sound like an artifact here um talk to text i believe is what it is have you heard of this yeah i've seen people do that yeah i've always wanted to do it it just never really tried so i didn't know the entirety of what it was able to do this thing's awesome this thing is very great yeah i watched my wife piece together uh piece together a conversation with a lady who did not speak our language in talk to text and translated it oh it was some of the most insane shit i've ever seen in my life and i was like what is this and she's like it's this button down the lower corner i didn't have it because i haven't turned on a microphone didn't turn to see or anything i turn on the microphone now i'm being hey how you doing not that it wasn't happening before now i just know about it that little thing down the lower right corner whenever your keyboard pops up yeah you touch that thing and just space it's just so i'm not a texter and driver i'll use that if i need to send a text message that's what I do now. Yeah, it's outstanding.
Yeah, and Foxy is not really a seeing driver either. Yeah, that's why.
I got to be focused. I don't know if you're allowed on the road.
Aren't you blind? Isn't he blind? Not legally. Okay.
Damn near. I go every year.
Eye doctor every year. You need to fix those.
Those things are dangerous. What's your dims on your vision? Bad.
I don't know what they are, but they're bad. He's probably like 2110 legitimately.
It is. You just see like shapes? What does he see? Can he see our faces? So if it's dark out and it's raining and there's lights, I can't see anything.
This is it right here. This is it right here.
Yes. Boom.
Pop it up. That's Foxy dropping.
Look at this guy out of the fucking road. It's crazy.
And I'm sitting shotgun, bro. I'm sitting fucking shotgun with this guy.
Yeah, so if it's a really dark night out, too, it's brutal. I accidentally had a few booze.
Okay? Accidentally. Happened upon a couple of the fellas.
Boys, how we doing? Want a shot? Absolutely. Want a beer? Sure.
Not going to turn that down. What a night.
We need we need another one absolutely rame cereal maybe comes over tequila absolutely so i'm a little bit i should not be driving okay even though i i like driving i enjoy driving i think it's the only way you can really like expect i mean went to two different fbos i don't even want to get into it this weekend just the drivers are a thing if you start a driving company right now you might be this might be the best time to do it drivers are horrendous they they are let's get that guy from san antonio i forget his name phenomenal took us down the back roads he was a guy yeah he's a dog he was a guy and also new ball too and waited till after the after the ride to do the entire thing anyways i like doing the driving because i don't like getting lost in random cities i don't like sitting in the right lane when

the left lane's wide open i don't like you know there's a lot of things i don't enjoy that i just

think are bad driving so i'll just drive fuck it i'll drive yeah but then whenever you just start

it all starts happening it's like i shouldn't drive it i can't i feel pretty boozed up fox

you drive i'll drive sure gets gets keys yeah we go outside it's obviously dark it's post-show

I don't know. happening it's like i shouldn't drive it i can't i feel pretty boozed up fox do you drive i'll drive sure gets gets keys yeah we go outside it's obviously dark it's post-show a little bit of rain a little bit of drizzle i had no idea that meant like we stevie wonders driving i had no idea yeah we're turning in the wrong lanes we're almost hitting fucking poles whole thing dude like you know the lane that's that like you turn in an intersection very bright the intersection was the worst part because there's so many lights it was too bright and there was so much rain and it was like oh no he can't see anything we almost turned right into the fucking turning lane of the other side you know the people that are turning he almost right into them it's like yo yo yo yo and i'm i'm boozed up so i'm i'm already i can barely and then the rain is happening to me too and it's like i don't know if we're going in the right lane there so now the drunk guy's like whoa on a sitting shotgun yeah and i don't know what's worse so then i'm like foxy is everything okay lock it up and he goes i can't see whenever it's raining in the lights it's we're fucked there's a rental car too got us jeez got us there boy boy i showed up by the time we got to the plane i was fucking yeah completely sober i was like all right fuck get me home dude is the driver hey excuse me pilot can you fucking see out there a little rainy out i'll get laced at some point okay and you let me know when that is i'll hop right back in that car with you i'll be your shotgun rider fo, Foxy.
They say I'm a prime candidate for it. Sounds like it.
Yeah, you can't see. That makes you a prime candidate.
You need that to happen sooner than later. Also, Reagan, stop.
Don't get in there. It's only a matter of time with this guy.
I actually don't let her drive. It rains a lot.
It rains all the time. I don't know if he sees anything.
It gets dark every night, too. That was a seven-minute ride.

Every night.

Every night.

Every single night.

It's true.

Except for Alaska, right?

They got that 24 hours a day.

That's where Foxy needs to live.

Yep.

Yeah.

Well, next week's actually the start of Daylight Savings Time.

Yeah.

A lot better.

That's awesome.

That's what we're doing.

It's the last one, right?

I saw Foxy.

I don't know what he did about it.

Last year.

Yeah, I don't think that happened.

Yeah. That was executive order.

Last one.

That middle management gets a hold of it.

And then, lo and behold, this is what happens.

We're turning the clock back once again.

And we don't see his son for a long time.

I do like catching up with people and telling them what life is like out here.

I think it's getting warm.

I think it's getting warm. It was like 59 degrees one day.
Then I get up to Canada, negative 6 degrees Celsius. Freezing cold.
Land in Detroit for customs. The guy that did it, cool guy.
Great gray hair. Hell yeah.
Perfect. He was so cold.
So damn cold. I guess he got really cold again.

Yeah, it's cold this weekend.

Yeah, this is the last third.

Are we done with that?

Yeah, are we done with that?

No, no.

This is the last third.

Brutal winter.

Brutal.

This is the worst it's been.

Yeah.

Cold, snowy.

That's six weeks.

We got six weeks left?

Six, seven, I'd say.

What, are you Punxsutawney Phil?

No, it's just usually always after the draft is when it really is like, okay, we are at nice weather times. Dude, last year the draft, Detroit was a lot colder then.
Holy shit. It got chilly.
It got chilly. Green Bay would have been warm too.
It's a damn shame we're not going to be there. Yeah, I'm bummed.
Yeah, I don't think we're going to. We get that magician back.
Michael Malone. Michael Malone.
Oh, yeah. Gallagher.
League meetings were in Florida. Gallagher.
Would have been nice. We're not getting Gallagher, rest in peace by the way I think he died Michael Malone Gallagher His twin brother though was stealing his routine So he might be around still His gimmick I thought Michael Malone died by swallowing his needles You're talking about Michael the...
Michael Malone. Might have been a bullet instead.
Hope he's okay. He would be a guy that would be able to do it.
Later, after watching him, I think he would be a guy that would be able to do it. All right, we're back tomorrow.
He was really good. Right here.
Right here. I love that.
Collapses lunges from fucking punching himself. Get the nails down.
I was so uncomfortable. I was so uncomfortable.
Just like whenever Kevin Owens and Sammy Zane were doing what they were doing to each other. That was uncomfortable.
Two tables. Two tables.
Jeez. Kevin Owens is stabbed.
What was he patting and crying for when Randy Orton came out? I didn't see that. A lot of people are talking about that.
I think potentially pretty

emotional after a fight he and his

ex-best friend just had in

Toronto. But if you would have seen Randy Orton,

it might have brought tears to your eyes, too. I don't know if a human's been

shit. I don't know if a human's been put

together like that in a long, long

time. It was almost like art, I assume.

Kevin Owens was like, holy shit, look at this

man.

He's got to weigh 280, 290. No, no.
There's no reason. Tony had a good burn on Kevin Owens in the group chat.
He had a great fight guy. Oh, you tried to break my neck, huh? Oh, okay.
Good to see you, he says. Chewing gum, looking super cool.
Always does. Kevin Owens is like, oh, fuck.
What are you talking about? He just beat Sami Zayn. Where is he crying? I don't see him crying.
Just wait for it. Wait for it.
He's kind of like, what are you waiting for? Something like that. No, he's overcome with emotion.
He just got done with a fight in Toronto. Oh, boo-hoo.
Fucking WWE superstar. What do you thought? It was an unsanctioned match.
It wasn't a WWE match. This ring made me into a monster.
He's ready to fight him. Come on.
He's ready to fight him. There he is.
Come on. He's tired.
He's exhausted. He had a banger against Rhodes at the Rumble, too.
He's been fucking through it. Kevin Owens is on fire right now, I'd say.
Yeah, Randy, though. I mean, what the fuck is wrong with that guy? How do you have? That's a massive right hand from KO.
Well, I mean, Randy, fresh out of Randy. Nope, throw him.
RKO! And then he delivered RKO to the entire population of a town in Canada as they came up one by one. That was a bad idea by security, if I remember this right.
I think security's about to get in there. Mm-hmm there or was it right when he was about to you got pete down here the canadian destroyer founder watching along he can't stop anything thamel no uh oh what is pete's last name we should look that up he created the canadian destroyer like maybe the best movement pete dunn Butch Artists formerly known as Butch Pete Dunn's not doing Canadian Destroyers

He should be Maybe the best movement Pete Dunn Butch

Artists formerly known as Butch

Pete Dunn's not doing Canadian Destroyers

He should be

Let's get to a break

We'll be back tomorrow

Petey Williams

Fuck

I'm sorry

Petey Williams

I go up to him every day

And just ask him

How many Destroyers are in the show tonight

We get 30 Destroyers tonight

Or what

I watch a match

On Instagram

Showed up on the Explore page

Thank you. them every day and just ask them how many destroyers are in the show tonight we get 30 destroyers tonight or what i watch a match uh on instagram showed up on the explorer page these dudes did 16 explorer uh destroyers to each other it's like most devastating move of all time it's a uh obviously a back flipping pile driver basically that happens most devastating move you could basically come up with these dudes just doing 16 of them back them back and forth, back and forth, back and forth.
It's like, Petey, sorry, the move is not really as devastating as we once thought. But the Mexican Destroyer, Penta hits, that's game, set, match.
Into the sacrifice, the arm. Got action tonight in Buffalo.
Hell yeah. It's going to be a good one.
Can't wait. We're on the road to WrestleMania.
Boom! Yeah, he just showed me a clip of maybe one of the first Destroyers. It's on TNA.
I don't know if we can show that. I legitimately don't know the relationship.
Thank you. Yeah.
Adam Cole hit me with Panama Sunrise, which is the Panama Destroyer, to beat me in our match down to NXT. I'll tell you what, that came out of nowhere.
I didn't know what to expect. And all of a sudden, I'm upside down.
I'm on my head. And then one, two, three.
It's like, I don't even. Hold on.
Oh, is this over? Yeah, it's over. Fuck.
Should have kicked out. Bullshit.
That's a fucking Canadian Destroyer. Which goes back, once again, a lot of good things came from Canada.
We appreciate it. Yep.

What else?

Maple syrup, pretty good.

Hockey's pretty good. Mooses.

Mooses are great.

They didn't start. Mooses are great.

They didn't start hockey, right?

They didn't start mooses. They didn't start hockey?

They had to have started hockey, right? Did you guys start hockey?

Yeah. Lacrosse as well?

Start lacrosse? It was the natives. But it was from that area? Yeah.
Oh, okay. Let's see.
Poutine? Sure. Sure.
That weird ice cream Gump likes? Tiger Tiger. Tiger Tiger.
Creamoo? Yeah. Creamoo.
Good peanut butter. Creamoo up there? Stoner.
Craig Stoner and Sid. Mark and Mario Lemieux and Wayne all Wayne all Paul business at the guy that fought 10 Irish gypsies Brad Marshawn Brian Marshall Nick Jesus looks like the PK looks like PK so bad they created standard time okay oh what's that nobody we're just rolling around with the sun they created no sunda like the es like the st oh they said we need to separate separate this whole thing they created daylight and the wonder bra was ben franklin the wonder bra the what the wonder bra what did that do special made wonderful wonders it did wonders that's what they say that's why they put in there just like boy wonder the boy blunder said sean mcveigh it was the blunder bra and then they brought in the wonder bra and that's what canada has done we appreciate canada for all those great things thank you that's why when I hear, Oh, Canada.
My first reaction is, Brr. Because there's been a lot of good.
A lot of good people, a lot of good things. No matter what is happening politically.
So whenever, Oh, say, Brr. It was your first reaction.
It's a little bit of a, Can't have it. Hold the fuck on.
Starbucks is across the street. Okay.
okay you're at wwe show please you've had a lot of good things what why is the first then they said look at it it's like all right i'm looking in every political stance of every country before they play a national anthem before a sport or happening i don't know is that the move i guess i appreciate you guys passion for your country though i do appreciate it i respect it a lot more more than I thought. I didn't know that they were? I guess.
I appreciate you guys' passion for your country, though. I do appreciate it.
I respect it.

It's a lot more than I thought.

I didn't know that.

They were coming after me.

They were coming after me pretty good.

Canadians were coming after me pretty good.

The Americans were standing by my side.

Always.

When's the next time we're doing a Four Nations thing?

That shit was fire.

Yeah, great.

Probably two years.

Got the Olympics coming up.

We need to win that.

Yeah, got to.

And I need to put Russia in Four Nations.

Yes, and then be five nations. Yeah, relegate whoever comes in last.
Who was last this year? Sweden, I believe. See ya.
Swedes are good, though. They said it was a one-off because of the injuries.
They're worried that if we continue to make it something that the boys will care about, they'll get hurt. Like, that's almost the conversation that's happening.
NBA people are like, we got no injuries coming because nobody really cares about this.

The NHL is like, our boys care too much about this.

We can't be having to care.

We got to get something to care but not too much about.

You know, like Sid, the last All-Star game, he took a vacation out in Montana or whatever instead of going to the All-Star thing, and then he showed up at the game,

and they were like, Sid's too good for that.

And then as soon as this was announced, he's like, I'll play for Canada. Put the C on my chest.
I will play for Canada. He went into it hurt, too.
Yeah. And then they put up his resume.
He's 46-3 as a Canadian international hockey player. I don't know how that works.
He should be playing for America. He lives in Pittsburgh.
Yeah. So.
Canada also created the garbage bag, which makes sense. It which makes sense does get to a break we'll be back tomorrow thank you for that creation that's a big deal age they didn't create that a lot of garbage like the plastic garbage bag yeah we've refined it and made it better and better bingo well i mean we can talk about a lot of things that they created them maybe we did the one that stretches over so it sits under can you, so the top is the last thing.
And we did the one that has smell already on it. The bad smell.
That's the best. I assume we did that for sure.
Without a doubt. They created the paint roller as well, which obviously...
Obviously. We all knew that.
That's actually a picture of Gump's fodder, fodder, fodder. That would actually be me if I was still in the shipyard right now, to be honest.
That is a gumpy lad painting out there. Look at the cap on the old painter.
We appreciate Keller. Nice looking toke.
But also, let's relax. It was big toke town.
It was so cold. I bet.
So cold. I was going to walk.
I didn't bring a jacket, obviously. Sure.
What you saw on TV is what I wore and what I wore home. No bags coming in due to show.
Got to get home. No other options.
Okay? Sometimes you got to burn the bridge behind you so there's nowhere else to retreat. This is all I'm bringing.
This is all I got. So now i'm sitting in traffic 45 minutes to an hour in toronto because they shut down the road going into the city from where i was coming from one lane go this way then they stop and then coming out of the city they go so this is like a six lane into like a actual half of a lane so it's quite a uh gridlock if you will and i was like fuck'll walk i open that door i take four steps there was a breeze on this leg yeah oh my god i get back in that car i go we're gonna be here a while huh and he goes yes sir in his uh language with his accent or whatever and uh i just sat there and just took it in.
French? Huh? French? I think so.

I think it was French.

I think, I don't know, it was tough.

I was trying to communicate.

I'm in the same car as a guy for an hour.

Yeah.

I tried to talk to him four or five different times.

There was nothing.

I mean, I'm just, I'm in there alone.

You know, I'm in there absolutely alone.

But then it was an honor to be a part of the Elimination Chamber and what a night it was.

Tonight, Monday Night Raw, live from Buffalo on Netflix.

That's AJ Hawk.

The boys are here.

D. Butch, good to see you back.
Hey, D. Butch.
here uh d butch good to see you back you too age good to see you back age good to see you back it's great to be back in the thunderdome we obviously love this place we're lucky to do it a massive show coming to pittsburgh pennsylvania details to be released soon on a big night ah uh should be a big one aj i mean yes i mean yeah i've i've heard i've heard ideas you got floating around it's going to be pretty sweet that's kind of that's a good way to describe it I've heard ideas floating around that's what this show is going to be this is a combination of a few years worth of ideas in one program with uh massive surprises okay there's gonna be some massive surprises i think there's gonna be gigantic giveaways oh yeah gigantic millions of dollars given away there's gonna be massive laughs there's going to be some howlers. And then the sing-alongs, let's get those voices ready.
I'm trying to put together just a night where everybody can have a blast. We can give away some money and we can experience things that maybe we'd have never experienced before.
Trying to put together a big night for folks. First one in Pittsburgh.
Hopefully not the last. We'll see how it goes.
It is an expensive evening. That is for certain as everything goes together.
But it should be worth the time, worth the visit. And I'm excited to kind of, you know, I'm excited to get to it.
It's been taking up a lot of my brain capacity because it's impossible not to think about. I wake up in the middle of the night going to the bathroom and it's like, oh, that'd be sweet if we were able to pull that off.
Talk to Tex. All right, tomorrow.
Wake up the next day, read through the notes. Let's go ahead and do that.
And then we're in a position now with the people that we know where it's like, shit's all kind of possible. Couldn't cost money.
All kind of possible. I'm pumped for it.
All right. Details to be released very soon.
And this show is within the next couple of months. The show is near.
It's not far. They're saying like a summer or fall thing.
This is happening in the next two months, I say and it's gonna be big it's gonna be at

night people are gonna have to go all right i'll get the hell out of here we'll see you tomorrow

what a time what a show be a friend tell a friend something nice it might change your life we're in

this thing together team on me team on three one two three team goodbye