PMS 2.0 1292 - Live From Super Bowl Radio Row in New Orleans, Fred Warner, Trey Hendrickson, Thomas Morstead, Pacman Jones, Chris Fallica & More

Speaker 1 Hello beautiful people

Speaker 1 and welcome to the Convention Center down here in New Orleans for Super Bowl 59. It's Wednesday and this sports program starts right now.

Speaker 1 It is wonderful and it is an absolute honor to be able to feel the buzz.

Speaker 1 It is palpable in New Orleans for the Super Bowl which kicks off on Sunday at 630 between the AFC champion and also the back-to-back Super Bowl champion, Kansas City Chiefs, led by Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey, and Taylor Swift.

Speaker 1 She's part of the fan base and anytime she's part of anything, you obviously have to mention her name, but on defensive side, Spagnolo, Chris Jones, and a litany of boys are ready to run wild in the Super Dom.

Speaker 1 And then the Philadelphia Eagles led by Nick Siriani, who might not be...

Speaker 1 A big dumb tip shit. Potentially.

Speaker 1 Might not be the dumbest guy in football like everybody on TV was saying for a large portion of this NFL season with Jalen Hurts, who was throwing the ball all over the yard.

Speaker 1 A man who was able to throw seeds if he had to, even though all season long people have been saying Jalen Hurts can't.

Speaker 1 He can't throw the ball. Can't throw a football.
No. Saquon Barkley can run, but the quarterback can't do shit.
Who was saying that, AQ? Not sure. You tell me.
You and many others were saying that.

Speaker 1 Saquon Barkley and an offensive line over there have a run game that reminds us of the good old days whenever football was ground in pound all the time.

Speaker 1 It's going to be a fantastic game to wrap up this wonderful NFL season and we are so incredibly honored to be a part of this Radio Row operation.

Speaker 1 You know there's a lot of people that think Radio Row is beneath them. Radio Row is the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 I don't fully understand people that come to a city to do media and don't come here. Foxy, hit that top camera once again.
Look at this convention center.

Speaker 1 It's filled with podcasters, local radio, local TV, international TV, international podcasts, college kids.

Speaker 1 The future of media is in every single one of the companies that pays money to the NFL throughout the season for commercials or for ad spots or for appearances.

Speaker 1 They pay a bunch of people to come through here. So the amount of guests we're about to have over the next three days is about to be fantastic.
Today, Fred Warner. Yes, that Fred Warner, Mormon.

Speaker 1 friend of program, San Francisco 49er madman linebacker will be joining us in this seat in a matter of moments.

Speaker 1 And in the second hour, Trey Hendrickson, defensive end pass rusher for the Cincinnati Bengals will be joining us. He doesn't wear gloves and he also doesn't talk to the media much.

Speaker 1 So I had a chance to catch up with him just yesterday. He's babyface assassin too.
Oh yeah. This dude looks like he's 13 years old.
Has 35 and a half sacks over the last two years.

Speaker 1 Was the NFL sack leader in this particular season. Now there's a contract coming up here for Trey Hendrickson.
There's a lot of that in Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 Can't wait to talk to him about the year that was in Cincy and also what his future looks like. And also, how's he not getting in wrinkles? in a high-stress position of being a pass rusher.

Speaker 1 It's about to be a glorious time. I'm obviously not alone.
The Toxic Table is here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Ty Schmidt, another radio row.
How's it feel?

Speaker 1 This feels good to be back down here. Yeah, it's unbelievable.
I mean, you mentioned it. You know, the buzz, the energy, it's palpable.

Speaker 1 We get pretty comfortable, you know, being in the Thunderdome, kind of doing our own thing, you know, just day after day. Hey, let's grind these shows out.

Speaker 1 So getting down here and being in front of all these people, it's incredible. And, you know, New Orleans, what a host city.
What a host city. What an unbelievable host city.
What a beautiful place.

Speaker 1 Gorgeous. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 So much history here. So much history.
You know, I love the Cajun flavor. So being down here, we talked about it yesterday.
Our first radio row in Miami inside of a shoebox. Look at this set.

Speaker 1 We've come a long way. Shout out to Foss, ESPN, Mystic Scene Set, and all the people behind the scenes that set this up for us.
It looks way too nice. Incredible.

Speaker 1 Way too cool for something for us to be a part of, but we're very appreciative. Also, shout out to...

Speaker 1 Oh, hell yeah.

Speaker 1 Sweet unis. The Louisiana State Troopers.
Boys and blue. They were in some clean-ass blues as we walked in here.

Speaker 1 They said there's going to be something left on your set that you can't just buy. We just want to say thanks for spending time with us.
I guess they listen to us while they're in the cars.

Speaker 1 I think I'm learning about that a lot with State Troopers. And also, we got this license

Speaker 1 play for them. Shout out to the troopers.

Speaker 1 Shout out to troopers. Shout out.
Shout out to troopers. First responders.
You know, the whole thing. We are very grateful.
And thank you for welcoming us into the city.

Speaker 1 We are very thankful to be here. Boston Connor, you got a nice welcome last night, Don to Casino, pal.
Huh? Yeah, yeah, formerly Harris, now Caesars. It was fantastic.

Speaker 1 You know, me and Ty, D.Butch, a couple others. Foxy, we went over there, you know, just Foxy made it out? Foxy made it out.
Now, I don't know why I was going to lie itself.

Speaker 1 His eyes were barely open, but he was there in spirit either way. And, you know, we had one very zany dealer who was kind of screwing around a little bit, a little bit too much.

Speaker 1 But one of the other dealers gave us a couple of spots to go to. He said, look, this is southern Detroit, brother.
This is exactly the type of city.

Speaker 1 you want to be in and I said hey that's that's perfect what do you mean this is southern Detroit people are just saying this is warm Detroit I know you said there's a lot of history in this city.

Speaker 1 I would say, sure. I guess maybe there is because all the buildings are old and shitty.
But again,

Speaker 1 you have no respect.

Speaker 1 You have no respect for anything. You're taking it wrong.
You're taking it wrong. We were just in Detroit in April for the draft.
I love that place. Great time.
It's awesome. Everyone was super nice.

Speaker 1 That's not true, but everyone was super nice. Nashville, by far, best draft ever.
I think they said there were like 2 million people there, but Detroit certainly held up there into the board.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and this is just warm Detroit. And I'm pumped to be here, and I'm excited for the week that's going to be.
I don't know who you're taking a shot at there.

Speaker 1 Nobody. Everybody.

Speaker 1 I think you guys are just making it seem like I'm taking a shot at the winners in that scenario. But I'm not.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 No one's losing here. This is a fantastic place to be.
It's warm outside. I mean, you really can't ask for more in the casinos handing out money.
Oh, yeah. I heard you won last night.
Congrats.

Speaker 1 If this was all to get to that, congrats.

Speaker 1 We heard you won last night. I was just telling you what I was seeing.

Speaker 1 We got the lay of the land. We kind of know where we are now in the city.
And again, I love Detroit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 New Orleans is just warm detroit with a few more outdoor places to go i love it okay uh all right that certainly certainly sounds like the case and uh shout out to you guys for making that happen going over there i took a nine-hour coma as soon as we got here

Speaker 1 it was great way to start this super bowl week nine-year nfl vet looking as cool down here as he does at the thunderdome one of the biggest brains in football hosted everything db good d bad d all here ladies and gentlemen dairy steeplech

Speaker 1 you look super cool man appreciate it what's something we need to think about going into this game that maybe hasn't been chatted about, you think? I saw a cool stat.

Speaker 1 You know, Spaggs gets talked about a lot, rightfully so, defensive mastermind. But Vic Fangio chasing his first championship as a defense coordinator.

Speaker 1 His defense, 5-0 on turf, which the Super Bowl will be played on a Sunday. 5-0.
What does that mean? I mean, defense-winning championships. No, but turf, faster?

Speaker 1 Faster turf, but I mean, you know, some of these stats, you know, they all mean something. So I saw this one and they're only giving up 11 points a game.

Speaker 1 So we know Chiefs haven't been as explosive on offense. So that's something I'm keeping an eye on.

Speaker 1 You know, those exciting exciting whites back there, got dogs up front, dogs up and down that defense.

Speaker 1 You know, defense wins championships, so I'm excited about my Eagles and how their performance is. Are you doing a postseason everything DB team?

Speaker 1 And is there maybe any Caucasians that might make it appear to be a good one?

Speaker 1 We'll see. Some good ones in Bond.
There's some good ones on Bond. Zach Bond's halfway there.
He might be defensive player of the year. We'll have Fred.

Speaker 1 I'll probably ask him about Zach Bond, his running mate, on that second level with the linebacker position. But yeah, it may be some, maybe a couple of athletic white guys that crack that team.

Speaker 1 Both these defenses are obviously incredibly well coached and they execute well. We actually have a graphic about the amount of experience at the defensive coordinator position, and it is bananas.

Speaker 1 Whenever you have the top left corner there, it's Dick LeBeau. Obviously, he's been around a long, long time.

Speaker 1 Feels like if you're a good defensive coordinator, you're going to have a job forever if you want it.

Speaker 1 38 years of NFL experience for Paisano Fangio and 21, or I'm sorry, 27 years of experience for Paisano Spagnolo. Look at the...

Speaker 1 34 years of combined defensive coordinator experience on

Speaker 1 the coaching staffs for both of these teams elite. Even though everybody thinks Sirianni is a...
Just some big thumb tip shit. Yeah, he's not.
Everybody out there has got big brains.

Speaker 1 And the 5-0 on turf, the Eagles' defense is suited for that because of how fast they are, or is this just... You know, it's one of those stats, you know, you can take it for, you know, grain of salt.

Speaker 1 You know, it's the Chiefs, it's the Eagles, two very good teams. It's going to come down to the fourth quarter.
I think it'll be a close ball game.

Speaker 1 We know Spaggs, when all the marbles on the table, he's probably going to bring some pressure. Evangelist

Speaker 1 kind of, you know, keep everything in front, rally and tackle, and get after a passer. So we'll see.

Speaker 1 Okay, and ladies and gentlemen, college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, rider cup winner, wearing a thick hoodie down here. Wow,

Speaker 1 which is a good move. Sweat it out.
That's right. I'll sweat it out.
That's right.

Speaker 1 Just walking around time, ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Paul.
AJ Hawker. Hawker, you said something earlier that you said nobody's talking about it, but it's real, especially in this particular case.

Speaker 1 Well, I feel like people are talking about it, at least to me, when they ask me who's going to win the game.

Speaker 1 Random people will say, oh, are you one of those those people that's against the Chiefs? You want the Chiefs to lose with the whole Taylor Swift situation?

Speaker 1 I think if the Chiefs do win this three and they get this three Pete, the people that have been hating on the Chiefs, they can thank themselves because I think that's the motivation that they give them.

Speaker 1 I feel like when you've won two in a row, it's very easy to get comfortable and get complacent, I think, in that whole situation.

Speaker 1 And you need something to rally around as a team so the Chiefs easily can feel like, hey, it's us against the world right now. Everybody wants to beat us.

Speaker 1 Everyone wants, they're watching the Super Bowl to see us lose. Like back in the day, Floyd Mayweather.
Either you love Floyd Mayweather or you were watching to see him get beat.

Speaker 1 I feel like that's where the Chiefs are right now. Yeah, and Floyd Mayweather utilized that in promotion and in motivation and everything in the gym.
Also, the refs getting added into it.

Speaker 1 I feel like you heard Travis talk about how like, hey, media people, okay.

Speaker 1 You don't want to talk about how good we are. Okay.
You don't want to talk about how much work we've had to put in to be able to be in the place that we're in.

Speaker 1 You don't want to talk about how talented this particular roster is or how lack of talent this roster has maybe compared to other people and how good of a football team we are.

Speaker 1 I think they're using all of that

Speaker 1 all these people we hear about them at the top they're finding reasons finding reasons finding reasons it's the people that are walking around they hate the chiefs on the internet because everybody sees everything i think the refs narrative has become one of the new ones as well a lot of people against the chiefs a lot of for them to draw inspiration from oh yeah and they don't even have to talk about it you know like when a team collectively comes together and you have one common like opponent or someone that you hate as a team together, like not one singular person.

Speaker 1 Could even be your coach. Absolutely.
Teams have definitely, there's a lot of motivation and hate. That's the thing.

Speaker 1 You can't live on it, but it can wake you up early in the morning when you don't want to wake up if you truly despise what's going on or you feel like you're being painted in the wrong light.

Speaker 1 And I think the Chiefs right now feel like, hey, everybody wants us to lose. What better motivation than to go out there and win and stick it to everybody?

Speaker 1 Yeah, and it very easily could turn into a fizz fight

Speaker 1 and get physical out there, especially with how tight it is. That means it's going to come down to the trenches, always does.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, 12-year NFL veteran Super Bowl Champion League issue. Thank you.
Come boys.

Speaker 1 thank you we hand out the trenchies this year I don't know if you saw Deion Dawkins said he would like the NFL to acknowledge the best offensive lineman in the NFL should probably do tackle and then interior probably do two awards if they're going to do it so then it's not all tackle tackle tackle tackle tackle tackle every single time uh even though that particular position currently is talking about an interior offensive lineman joe tooney is there's stats coming out now about joe tooney about what he did in new england now what he's doing with the chiefs he goes from a hall of fame career inside out to the tackle has he done anything that makes you think to yourself, maybe this Kansas City Chiefs offensive line is ready for this Philadelphia Eagles' defensive line?

Speaker 1 Or do you think the advantage in the offensive line is still heavily skewed into the Philadelphia Eagles' favor? Yeah, I think it's still heavily skewed.

Speaker 1 The Philadelphia Eagles have the best offensive line in football. There's no question about it.
Is there like a historic conversation with them or no?

Speaker 1 Well, listen, I mean, I think you've mentioned it so many times about the amount of yards that Saquon has before getting touched. That speaks specifically to the offensive line.

Speaker 1 So they're phenomenal, but when you talk about Joe Tooney and what he's been able to do, it's phenomenal.

Speaker 1 And for him to move out to tackle at being a 6-2 guard with shorter arms, but listen, a lot of the credit has to go to Andy. A lot of the credit.

Speaker 1 When you watch them, they are not putting him in drop back pass very many times.

Speaker 1 They're running more RPOs than they've run all year in the playoffs, and that is literally he can come off and run block, and then it's either a run or it's a pass.

Speaker 1 You saw the big play to Juju Smith last week, and

Speaker 1 there's so many times that they're doing nakeds and rollouts, and then they're peeling the guard back and peeling the center back. So they're not putting them in bad situations.

Speaker 1 That's because Andy's such a smart coach. Which is what you're supposed to do with your players.
Let's go to the other side. Coach Siriani.

Speaker 1 He's the one that I allegedly, if you listen to Stoutland, say, you know what, we need to put Penny. Or I'm sorry, we need to put Makai Bechton, who has all the talent in the world, at 6'7.

Speaker 1 Let's try him out a guard and see if it works out. It has.
They've become the best offensive line in football.

Speaker 1 He's become a person that that team revolves around and is like, I don't want to say banking on to have success, but yes, as opposed to a guy that got kicked out of town for not living up to the expectations of being a tackle.

Speaker 1 What a change in life for Makai Bechton. And allegedly, that was Sirianni's kind of idea.
And then Stoutland's a perfect guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I heard Stoutland say that yesterday, and I was like, wow, what a move by Sirianni, because he's right.

Speaker 1 I mean, I heard Stoutland also say, when you look at the history, six, seven guards don't usually work out. Like, you need to be low-man wins in the interior.
You've got to get underneath them.

Speaker 1 And when you have him, he's a brawler. And the one question mark coming into this season was that right guard position, and he solidified it.

Speaker 1 So he'll be there forever, and now will more six foot seven guys be guards? I think it's an anomaly, honestly. I mean, like, listen, at the end of the day, they're meant to be out of tackle.

Speaker 1 It's hard to bend, especially if you're playing against an Aaron Donald, a Grady Jarrett, some of these 6'1 guys that can get up underneath you.

Speaker 1 It doesn't matter how big you are if you're tall and you don't play low, but he is so physical. So many of these big runs, he's climbing on a linebacker and just ejecting guys.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and you talked about Saquon yards before contact, which is certainly a compliment to the offensive line. We got some new stats from Hembo on Saquon.
His average touchdown length this year

Speaker 1 32 yards. What?

Speaker 1 Good lord. That's insane.
That's absurd. 32.
He's the only guy in NFL history. I don't know if we were able to get it up in time or not.
Yeah, here it is.

Speaker 1 Only guy in history who has 20-plus touchdowns, and the average length of the touchdown was more than 30 yards. Now, this includes playoffs.
32 and a half yards.

Speaker 1 And then the immediate thought is, well, you know who steals it all? Yes. Bingo.
Jalen Hurts takes the two yarders down there at the goal line, so that then that isn't kind of offsetting the average.

Speaker 1 32 and a half yard average debut. I mean, that's insane.
It's insane. Part of it, I mean, obviously, is the all-that's explosive place.
The only explosive place is that. Division is crazy, yeah.

Speaker 1 Who has the second place? Is the second place like 12 yards a car?

Speaker 1 29, 1984, Mark Clayton. 1984, they're playing good ball.
Yeah, they are, yeah.

Speaker 1 They were playing good ball back in 1984.

Speaker 1 1989, Jerry Rice, and then Gail Sayers,

Speaker 1 27 yards. So, I mean, there has been home run hitters, I guess, for 20-plus touchdowns throughout a season.

Speaker 1 But if you're scoring scoring on a 32 and a half-yard clip every single time, that is must-watch football. I mean, that is must-watch football.

Speaker 1 And that's old school football because it's the offensive line dependent upon it. Now, Saquon's different, too.
Let's not. Yeah, his vision.

Speaker 1 Once he gets to the second and third level, like angles, safeties, they're 15, 18 yards back, and he just outruns angles, breaks tackles. His home run speed is unbelievable.

Speaker 1 Just the total package that he has. Paired with this offensive line, unstoppable.
Well, his DBs don't want to make that. Yeah, no, they don't.
No, they don't. No, no, I'm saying.
No, they don't.

Speaker 1 It speaks to Jalen, too, though. You know, kind of have to watch him.

Speaker 1 Like, some of those middle backers who just fly over the top for Saquon, it's like, well, you kind of have to sit in the pocket a little and wait to see if Jalen's pulling that thing and taking it because he's had a few 40-yard touchdowns.

Speaker 1 He started the playoffs this year with a 45-yard touchdown to kick off the entire thing. Yeah, Jalen's special, isn't he?

Speaker 1 He's playing a lot better. Oh, geez.

Speaker 1 I will say this. Listen, he does.
Snip snaps. Snip snaps.
Snip snap. I think the most impressive thing that he's done since week five is not turned the ball over.
He's been fantastic at that.

Speaker 1 He's leading the team. He's obviously running, doing what he's done, and he's throwing the shit out of the ball.
I can't say anything else.

Speaker 1 Hey, let's talk about an awesome story that is in the middle of a terrible event. And this kind of popped across the news.

Speaker 1 Our Twitter feed, our algorithm showed us this, and we just wanted to show love.

Speaker 1 10-year-old Trey Howard, okay,

Speaker 1 was near when the plane went down in Philadelphia. Obviously, terrible tragedy.
TZP's everybody involved in that situation.

Speaker 1 In the middle of that, though, this dude right here laid and saved and protected his daughter as debris was falling after the plane crash.

Speaker 1 Dad explained it. It sounded like there was like a war happening with like metal things hitting cars and

Speaker 1 Trey here ended up with a piece of metal in his head, okay, when this whole thing happens. Goes to the hospital.
Everything happens. And then he comes out of it on Monday, I believe.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so they rushed him to the hospital. He had to have emergency brain surgery.
He comes out of it on Monday. He comes out of it, and he asks his dad what day it was.

Speaker 1 And his dad said it was Monday, and he was like, did I miss the Super Bowl? Did we play yesterday? And he said, no, you're fine. We play next Monday.
And then

Speaker 1 his second question was, did he save his sister? Which he did.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the dad said

Speaker 1 it was like the shrap metal was like gunfire hitting his car. And he...
took care of his other his other children. The 10-year-old jumped on his sister.

Speaker 1 Like, Tyrese Maxi, his favorite 76er, came and visited him him in the hospital. It turned out being a great story for them.

Speaker 1 That's like, and you never know what's going to happen. But as a 10-year-old to go to protect your sister, just awesome.
Dog. Try, we appreciate you, buddy.

Speaker 1 Hero. We assume he's going to be going to the Super Bowl.
Yeah. If he could travel, yeah.
We assume he'll, yeah, if he could travel, he'll be going to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 But I think his relationship with the Philadelphia Eagles is probably only beginning. Yes.

Speaker 1 Because there's not, I mean, just like to your point, you always hope that in the moment of these situations, you would act that way. And I think there's even a show on ABC.

Speaker 1 Guys would host it forever like what would you do where a candy camera where they set up these situations and people can find out if in the moment of somebody getting robbed or somebody in front of you and it's all filmed does the person act how you know you would hope that that person would act you have no idea until a terrible situation pops up how you're going to do it as a 10-year-old just to be like I got it like hey you're going to go on to do amazing things brother and we cannot wait to watch and know that what you're going through with the brain surgery and everything else is only going to set you up to do it.

Speaker 1 And Trey, you're the best, bud. We're lucky to be in the same world as you at the same time as you.
And that's badass stuff. That's awesome.
That dad's got to be incredibly proud. Yes.

Speaker 1 Like, hey, it is my boy here. You know, like, that is, you almost get emotional whenever you like think about the amount of pride that that dad had to have.

Speaker 1 His dad said he was super, like, his dad said, you know, that's not his job. That's my job.
But he did it in that moment. So, yeah, he was very that's dope.
Yeah, awesome.

Speaker 1 I liked, I like that that happened. Especially, you know, Philly.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Grit. That's right.
Are they going to win the Super Bowl? Huh? I mean, they might. They certainly might.
There's a chance.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's, again, it's hard to bet against the Chiefs because it seems like for the last, I don't know, five years, that's all they do is they win and they win close games.

Speaker 1 It's kind of what I've thought the entire playoffs. If you're going to beat the Chiefs, you have to beat them.

Speaker 1 You can't give them an opportunity, you know, late in the game for them to drive down and either kick a field goal.

Speaker 1 Like, if they're going to win this game, I think they have to win by 10 to 13 points. But the way they've been playing, you know, who knows?

Speaker 1 And, you know, we talk about the Chiefs having a chip on their shoulder. Sirianni's been, you know, had shit talked about him all year.
Same with Jalen.

Speaker 1 Like this, this Eagles squad has a lot of chips on their shoulder as well. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I think it's going to be a great game. I think so.
Flip-flopping. I think we're, yeah, me too.
I woke up this morning, Eagles, and I went to bed, Chiefs. Like, I have no idea.
So,

Speaker 1 since the NFC championship, I've been on the Eagles. I'm like, they can do it.
They can do it.

Speaker 1 Everything I believe is that you got to be tough. Like, that is my entire belief in football.
I think I don't care if it's 2025. I don't care if it's 2045.

Speaker 1 If football is still being played and it is tackle, I think you got to have a tough team.

Speaker 1 Like I just think that is, because of how long the season is, how the sport is, everything it involves, I think you got to be tough. And this is like, what, one of the toughest teams of all time.

Speaker 1 And it's like all Siri on he wanted his dogs. Yeah.
We're built, kibbles and bits were built.

Speaker 1 We are building a tough team. And they got it.
And it's like Saquon was the piece that really ignited this entire thing to another level.

Speaker 1 And Saquon's like very happy to be there and bought in so he's a dog as well then you know

Speaker 1 you watch Travis Kelsey get pissed off the people are talking about the refs and it's like hold the phone now

Speaker 1 now they got a little bit extra to AJ's point it's like feels like Andy Reid and the boys are able to always win and then you start looking at stats about Spagnolo is like he's four-time Super Bowl champion is defense quarter for a reason In the biggest moments, he does not get scared at all.

Speaker 1 He is emptying everything he has every single game, and his players love it. And his players love him.

Speaker 1 And it's like then you think about andy reed he runs trick plays in the super bowl all the time like he actually just runs shit so it's like he's not scared of anything and then tob it's like bucker's been here he's at a game winner yeah you know it's like that team How do you say they're going to lose a game?

Speaker 1 I don't know how you say they're going to lose a game, especially the Super Bowl. But then it's like, well, the Eagles are tougher.
I don't know. Every day.
Yeah, there's a stat, too.

Speaker 1 I saw it this morning where it's of the rematches in the Super Bowl between quarterbacks. The guy who won the first match is 4-0 in the second match.

Speaker 1 The quarterback, you know, returning has never won, so it's one of those things. Yeah, and then there's all the betting stats that contradict each other.

Speaker 1 Like, hey, this happens if this happens, all 18 out of the last 19. And then on the complete opposite side, last seven straight times, this, and it's like, well, that doesn't tell us shit.

Speaker 1 That doesn't tell us a damn thing. So I have no idea.

Speaker 1 I think that's a good thing. Yeah, for sure.
I think that's a good thing. Joining us now might be a guy who might be able to give us a little more information.

Speaker 1 His team's not here.

Speaker 1 His team had a season that I i don't think anybody could have predicted can't wait to get his kind of thoughts on it all ladies and gentlemen four-time all-pro absolute stallion out of byu linebacker for the san francisco 49ers fred warner

Speaker 1 you got very team team team team team

Speaker 1 how you doing friend hey at least stand up for him

Speaker 1 for the patriots so sorry i don't care just walked quarter mile here you go

Speaker 1 Yeah, is that all right? That's wonderful. All right, we should probably get that on the other side so it doesn't go crush your body there.
That's 100% on me. We did not test that.

Speaker 1 And so right now, your first guest on, hey, thank you for joining us. Absolutely.
Thanks for having me. Okay, so tell us about your work with Experience.
So I think, if I remember correctly,

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Yeah. Yeah, fantastic.

Speaker 1 That's what I do.

Speaker 1 Great on the field. Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1 How many of these experient interviews have you done? This is my first one. Crushed it.
Wow.

Speaker 1 You're adding crushed it. I don't know what the rest rest is going to look like because you're going to have to deliver with the same energy.
Yeah, right. But it is a good message.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I love it. I think in the world that we're in currently, especially if it's like $3.99.
Oh, yeah. Something's like $3.99.

Speaker 1 If something is the same price as an express order on DoorDash, you're going to take it and then you're never going to see it again. And these companies are just living off of it.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 it slides under the radar for so long, but then it just accumulates, accumulates, and then it's like, damn, I'm like, I'm out. I just spent $900 on something that I've never been to use in my life.

Speaker 1 That's it. We appreciate you joining us.
And you talk about saving time and money. We're just going to forget in the memory capsule last season.
Fred, what? We...

Speaker 1 Did you guys know about Christian? No. We had no idea, dude.
We had no clue. I think whenever that popped up out of nowhere for us,

Speaker 1 they were like Achilles, Arthritis, I think. It pops up on both.
on both.

Speaker 1 That came out of nowhere for us. For you, if it came out of nowhere, obviously that's incredibly startling, but what is the mindset going into the season?

Speaker 1 And do you feel like that's just kind of what the season became? Yeah, I mean, it came out of of nowhere for him, honestly. I feel like.

Speaker 1 Talking to him, I've talked to him throughout all the offseason since he's been here, and he felt great.

Speaker 1 You know, we got married and was on Cloud 9 thinking that, all right, we're coming back to win a Super Bowl, coming off an offensive player of the year type of year last year.

Speaker 1 And so it was a shock to him, shock to us. He's one of our best players, if not the best.
And so

Speaker 1 I'm excited for him going into this season to just get back healthy, right? Get back out on the field. We need him.
We need him in order to be successful.

Speaker 1 You saw it, and then obviously dealing with a bunch of other injuries this past season. We just got to wipe that, put that away.
Yeah, yeah, that didn't happen. Save time and money in your brain.

Speaker 1 Save time and money.

Speaker 1 Man, save stress off of my back, and just go ahead and eliminate that. Okay, so it comes out of nowhere for him.
It comes out of nowhere for you guys.

Speaker 1 And you said he's one of our best players, if not our best player. The reason why it's not easy to say best players is because you guys have so many good players.

Speaker 1 So, so many good players. Legitimately, that's why the season is we're watching along.
Like, that had to be, I don't want to say excruciating, but that had to be a miserable time.

Speaker 1 I just punter okay on team just punter on team whenever Peyton was

Speaker 1 quarterback and that whole crew was there right we went undefeated my first year wow okay until they chose to lose

Speaker 1 and once again I'm very small then we went again then we went again and then we go two in 14 and almost lose every single game life is miserable yeah whenever you're losing then we get back to being good and when Andrew gets there again thank God Andrew comes in there but it's like when you're losing life is terrible you guys haven't experienced that much right exactly It's different when you when you've only experienced losing because that's the standard.

Speaker 1 Bingo. We've developed a standard of winning.

Speaker 1 We've been to NFC championships year after year, two Super Bowls, obviously haven't surpassed the mountaintop to hoist that trophy, but we're so close, right? And so this was the season.

Speaker 1 This was the one we were going to do it. And then all of a sudden everything falls into shambles and it's like, damn, I thought we were past this.

Speaker 1 Like my rookie year, I think we only won like six games. I thought we were past this.

Speaker 1 Hey, it's good for you, though. Maybe long run you'll be able to look back like

Speaker 1 that. It humbles the hell out of you.
And you learn from it it and then you grow from it to ultimately get back next year. Yeah, we can't wait to watch you guys back.
AJ has a question for you, Fred.

Speaker 1 First off, how's your ankle feeling? We know you played the whole year on this fractured ankle. When did it happen? How did it happen?

Speaker 1 And how were you able to actually play through it and have such an unbelievable year? Yeah, I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 It happened in week four against the Patriots. You know, it was

Speaker 1 a simple ankle sprain that happened to pull the bone.

Speaker 1 You know, and then just one of those nagging things.

Speaker 1 Because injuries, it's like, all right, they're either bad enough to keep you off the field or just good good enough so you can keep playing, right?

Speaker 1 So it was one of those things where I was good enough to just keep playing and try to work through it. Did it get better as the year went or worse? I would imagine worse.
Yeah, what are you doing?

Speaker 1 Are we doing needles? Are you doing acupuncture? Yeah, I won't get into the specifics, but there was a lot of behind-the-scene work to get. Urine baths?

Speaker 1 You said what? What?

Speaker 1 Urine baths? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's that working or that's what you was doing? Yeah, I was not doing, I don't know. I mean, see, all your money? Nah, I was good.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying, people, no stone left on turn, you know, need a bathtub for teaching. To get healthy, how you got to fill a bathtub with pee?

Speaker 1 And then from what I heard, they go just one foot in, and then one foot up, and you go one foot in.

Speaker 1 Don't shake it at all. No, yeah, you shake it because then you get shaking.
You have to have missed. Okay, good.

Speaker 1 I didn't do this. I'm just saying there is a lot of weird things people do to try to get back to being healthy.
We'll see what the hotel room is talking about. They go.

Speaker 1 I might, you know, try that out. What about those seats in the corner? We don't have to talk about it.
But so

Speaker 1 whenever we're talking about the angle, what was it?

Speaker 1 Did you do like

Speaker 1 what was the every day was trying to get that thing healthy, right?

Speaker 1 I mean every day, you know, you're trying to obviously get it to a good enough spot to then go out and perform at your best on Sunday. Hey, we appreciate you, see this.
But it's not just me, man.

Speaker 1 That's what everybody does. It's the NFL.
Not everybody. Listen, you need to know that if that's happening with everybody in your locker room, you need to be pumped.
And you need to bottle that. Sure.

Speaker 1 Because there are some places it's not happening. I'm not here.
Darius has a question for you.

Speaker 1 People, coaches always talk about, you know, this game, you know, trying to make it just another game.

Speaker 1 What was your experience like compared to your first Super Bowl to your second Super Bowl as far as the preparation and actually playing in the game like everything that leading up to it and actually when that moment is yeah I mean it was it was super helpful my first time around having a guy like Richard Sherman who had been there 1-1 and you know to pick his brain about how to how to approach the game so I did I feel like I went to into the game

Speaker 1 you know well prepared thinking about the game the right way had interception in the game and late in the game I'm thinking oh man I'm about to win Super Bowl MVP like we finna win we up by what 10 points in the fourth quarter?

Speaker 1 Not a lot of time. And then things unfolded how they did.
So then I learned from that experience, like, man, you better not get too high on your horse before the clock hits triple zero.

Speaker 1 And I feel like I'd carried that over in the second game, right? Where I stayed even killed. But we had this situation with Dre Greenlaw where he tears his Achilles.
Crazy.

Speaker 1 And it was just such an emotional dump. Like, it was, I mean, going in at halftime, seeing him, like, going through those emotions.
So it was just a lot.

Speaker 1 And then obviously it was a long game because you go into overtime and you have to try to

Speaker 1 be one of the best to ever do it in overtime, and so it just didn't go our way. Yeah, on that, Diggs has a question for you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you talk about that overtime game last year, and I was watching a little bit of it back yesterday, and the Chiefs, they just do so much off of the same formation.

Speaker 1 A lot of teams do that now, but the Chiefs do it a ton. They do it a lot in the playoffs, and it's a lot of pat on the edge on short yardage.

Speaker 1 Going back, did you like your game plan last year? And what do you think the Eagles' game plan could or should be going into this one to just try to slow that Chiefs offense though?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, I loved our game plan. I thought we came out hot.
I mean, you got to remember, if you go back a year ago

Speaker 1 in that playoff last year, we were getting a lot of heat defensively because of the way we were playing the run game against the Packers, against the Lions.

Speaker 1 They were running through us, right? And so we were going into the Chiefs game with a huge chip on our shoulder because nobody gave us a chance to halt Patrick Mahomes in the Chiefs offense.

Speaker 1 And so we came out humming, you know, and we were, I felt like we played well for three and a half quarters, you know, until it wasn't so that's that's the super bowl man you got to keep your head down and stay present in the moment all the way through to the very end until the clock hits triple zero um and ultimately to hoist that trophy at the end yeah patrick special though man he's all right

Speaker 1 it's it's crazy it does feel like there's just some people that just have like the the itch got the it yeah there's such thing as like having been there done that and being able to win the big game and he's been able to do that obviously over and over again travis kelsey this guy it's pretty good why why is he so good you think now Now, obviously, George Kittle, we are big fans of Top of Game 2.

Speaker 1 Like, let's not just, we're not going to act like there's what Brock Bowers seemingly about to go.

Speaker 1 Like, there's a lot of incredible, but Travis Kelsey, for how long he's done it, and everything he's done in the playoffs, he's going to go down GOAT conversation for good reason, by the way.

Speaker 1 Ohio guy. But what is it about him? He just runs his own shit, they say.
There you go. I mean, it's honestly his mind.

Speaker 1 I don't know what he thinks about.

Speaker 1 I don't know how he approaches the game, but the savvy that he plays with is unlike any other tight end because when you go and you watch a tight end all week long and preparing for the guy, you're like, okay, he runs his corner route like he's gonna run a corner route or he's gonna run an in route with Travis he's he might have a corner route on but he'll run a post you know I'm saying or he'll just kind of find some space and just sit down and then you think you got him in coverage and then he just works away from you and he's kind of like a hooper he's a hooper that's where it really feels like he's a hooper he's a hooper and he talk a little trash too so then he getting he getting in your mind game too so it's like dang do i talk trash do i not talk trash so hey

Speaker 1 nah i don't talk no trash man i just go out there i play the game baby

Speaker 1 You said if Travis here this day, you're about to send him a message. I was about to hear it.
You're about to trash talk. Hey, listen, hopefully this is his last season.

Speaker 1 He retires, goes off into the sunset, and we ain't got to deal with him. It's not.
He said he's back three years, maybe four years, maybe five years. He just keeps going and going.

Speaker 1 Speaking of next season, though, Connor has a question for you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Fred, a few years with different defensive coordinators, and now you guys are bringing back Bob Sala, who, you know, obviously he's running stadiums. He's doing all that cool shit.

Speaker 1 How do you feel about him coming back? And you think that is kind of like a consistency that you'll get back in the buildings after having those years of different coaches? Yeah, super excited, man.

Speaker 1 I love Sala. Love everything about him.
He was one of the few coaches. The draft process is

Speaker 1 horrible.

Speaker 1 Unless you're like the first overall pick, maybe I don't know how it is for those guys in the first round. They might get talked up, but for a guy like me who's trying to prove himself.

Speaker 1 I'm a third-rounder, by the way. I was a third-round draft pick, but I had a bunch of teams telling me, like, oh, you can't do this.
You're not this. You're not that.

Speaker 1 And then I took my 30 visit with the Niners, and I'm in there with Coach Salt and his obvious like, man, I really like your game like this is how I see you playing in our system and this is the first time I'm hearing these things so I'm like man this guy Coach Salt he's he's the best and so they they draft me and I'm super excited and then just had all the belief in the world to stay with me even through a rocky rookie season as a starter

Speaker 1 you know and see it through but man I love him happy to be back with him what do you your conditioning seemingly better than everybody you're all over the place

Speaker 1 it is insane to watch you fly around so is that all year are you taking time off after season what is the how do you get to be you? Yeah, no, I mean I'm on that experience. I won't fly around.

Speaker 1 I'm on that treadmill tonight as soon as I get back to the hotel, man. Just getting back in.
No, I'm just playing, bro. You got to take some time away.
You got to take some time away.

Speaker 1 Do stuff like this with you, man.

Speaker 1 Come on, and also save people time and money. Time and money with Experian.
Download the app today. Where's the camera?

Speaker 1 Either one you're watching. Where's the camera, my boy?

Speaker 1 Hey, Experience,

Speaker 1 let's give some more money to Warner's. Yeah.
Come on.

Speaker 1 His wife's in a commercial.

Speaker 1 We'll get another commercial going soon. Don't worry.
Yeah, and then another one. And another one.
yeah, yeah, yeah, because it's such a good product. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 And you're such a good representation of it. Thank you.
Obviously, time and money. You want to save that? You pay the money to Fred, and he'll speak things up.

Speaker 1 This dude never stops. No, he doesn't.
Hey, you're a maniac. I went to that, what was it, the Seahawks game? Yeah.
The Seahawks Niners game.

Speaker 1 And I'm up in the booth with Kirk and Al, okay, because we were doing game day somewhere. So it was just like, stop at the Seahawks game.
Never been there before. I want to see what it is.

Speaker 1 Bosa looks like a jungle cat. Yep.
He literally takes up like an entire five yards somehow. That's 15 feet.

Speaker 1 I don't know how he, it's like, holy shit, this thing is much bigger in person than you could ever imagine. And then he is just a thousand miles an hour.
And then you said you don't talk trash.

Speaker 1 You guys all talk trash. Now that I'm taking back your entire defense turps.
Yeah, there's a little bit of an alter ego there, I'll say. You just lied, though.

Speaker 1 Like, I literally just had to relate this guy. I know.
Because the reason why, remember, I came back and I was like, they're fast. They all talk shit.
Everybody literally talks shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I said this is

Speaker 1 a Super Bowl. But like, is that defense the same?

Speaker 1 Like, Salah's going to be able to come back, and you guys are just, have you been running the similar defense, same defense with the crew because the people you have?

Speaker 1 Because you have pillars on that defense seemingly everywhere that we see every single season. Yeah.
So, is it the same defense? It's a similar scheme, yes.

Speaker 1 You got to continue to try to evolve, obviously, so teams don't just pick up on what you're doing and just attack you. But

Speaker 1 similar scheme will make some adjustments, though, for sure. NFC West is only getting tough.
That's right, is it?

Speaker 1 It is. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 It's tough. You guys were the Kings for a long time.

Speaker 1 Remember that? Yeah,

Speaker 1 kind of. Not really.
We still

Speaker 1 don't worry. I know.
I know. You hater.
Don't worry about that. Absolutely.
Ty, go ahead, bud. What's your relationship like with Brock Purdy?

Speaker 1 Because we've been big fans of his, and for the last several years, regardless of what he's done on the field, it's kind of been like, hey, this guy stinks. They have Christian McCaffrey.

Speaker 1 They have George Kittle. They have all these weapons.
And even last year, now everyone's saying, like, hey, you can't pay this guy. The Niners can't pay this guy.

Speaker 1 They were in their window when he wasn't making anything. Have you noticed him kind of take more of a leadership role?

Speaker 1 Because everyone talks talks about how he's just quiet, kind of docile, played at Iowa State. What's your relationship like with him? And have you noticed, like, has he kind of taken that next step?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, anybody who listens to me knows that I love Brock Purdy. You know, I love everything about him, the way that he's made up, the player that he is, his story.
I mean, that's my thing.

Speaker 1 It's like, how can you hate on a guy when he has a story that he's had and the success that he's brought to our team as Mystery Relevant, the last pick in the draft, right?

Speaker 1 Like, I don't know of anybody else who's been the last pick in the draft and has been a starter, even a starter for a football team, nonetheless, a franchise quarterback. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 And he took a huge leap this year in leadership. I think just being in command of not only the offense, but the team as well.

Speaker 1 And so, I mean, he's been awesome, man. The sky's the limit for this kid.
I can just go all day with him. But he's been awesome.
What are you talking about here? John Deere tractors?

Speaker 1 What do you think in that picture right there?

Speaker 1 Oh, we were talking about the good old Bible right there. Really?

Speaker 1 No, I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1 He is a man of God, man.

Speaker 1 Okay, how's that work? How's that work? Mormons verse non-Mormons?

Speaker 1 Legitimately, I have. We got to get Kyle on.
We can have a full discussion about it.

Speaker 1 I have massive respect to the Mormons, massive respect to all religions. Hey, listen, somebody's going to be right.
Can't wait.

Speaker 1 And hopefully,

Speaker 1 it's the side that you were on. But, like, and all that.
Legitimately, that's how I feel. And I have nothing but respect for the Mormons because Austin Cauley, I think I've told this story before.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know Austin. Austin Cauley and I got drafted in the same class, even though he's 14 years older than me.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 the entire thing. But he was married, had a family.
He was awesome. And who was going to be the president? The mormon

Speaker 1 romney was going to be the president and i knew nothing about mormons i'd never met a mormon i'm from pittsburgh and went to west virginia so i literally just through one conditioning period with austin cauley 30 minutes i'm like i just want to hear it i just want to hear what do we all and it's just like you broke it down do you broke it down yeah okay but i do not know the ins and outs of it totally yeah you and brock performance nobody does

Speaker 1 well that's john your jason john yeah joseph joseph joseph joseph austin austin obviously didn't do a great job no no years ago

Speaker 1 fundamental.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's the bottom line. Yeah, that is how you get into this entire thing.

Speaker 1 Locker room, though, everybody likes each other? Yeah, locker room.

Speaker 1 A lot of superstars, right? Oh, yeah. A lot of egos.
A lot of superstars. Too many.

Speaker 1 Too many, some say. Yeah, no, no, no.
We won't say that. You've got to have ego.
All right, if you want to be the best in the game, there's got to be a little bit of that.

Speaker 1 But inside of locker room, I feel like everybody's great, man. Everybody's homies.
Everybody, you know,

Speaker 1 top it up. Yeah, we got cool dudes all over.
AJ has a last question for you here, friend. What about John Lynch? How involved is he day to day?

Speaker 1 And do you guys and the rest of your players and your staff know how good of a player this dude was?

Speaker 1 Now, he was an absolute headhunter back there when you could take dudes' heads off at the safety position? Yeah, we wouldn't know unless Kyle Shanahan played clips of it in our team meetings. Really?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know, there's been times, I don't know if it's off-season, inseason, where, you know, John might talk to the team and then we'll play a little clip of him

Speaker 1 back in the day just beheading cats.

Speaker 1 He gets like an entrance video? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Entrance video.
I mean, rightfully so, is John Lynch. And it's like crazy to even think like John Lynch is your GM.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 But that just tells you everything you need to know about who he's looking at to add to the roster and add to the team, what type of players that we want because of how he played.

Speaker 1 I also like to count Shanahan's like, hey, just for you that are in the room

Speaker 1 that do not know what this is. This guy Taylor Born in the 2000s now.
It's like they don't even know what this guy is. Hey, you see this.

Speaker 1 Why is the film grainy? You see this bland looking white right here in this suit? You see what's going on here? Let us remind you real quick. This guy is a man.
He's in two ring ring of honors.

Speaker 1 He's gold jacket. Hall of famer.
Yeah, he's two ring of honors, like good enough career in two different places. Yeah, yeah.
Like, yeah, greatest of all time.

Speaker 1 He threw the first pitch in the history of the Florida Marlins franchise as well. There you go.
There you go. Wow.
Yeah. We're chopping that one out.
Hashtag. Hashtag stabbed

Speaker 1 that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, actually, you should drop that to John Vitch in the negotiation process. Every year, you guys have some contract thing.

Speaker 1 Yes. That's what happens when you have really good players.
Because of everything we're talking about.

Speaker 1 How do you guys handle it? Like when somebody, there was a lot of those videos. Old buddy was just walking around practice.

Speaker 1 Ayuk is walking around practice with a backpack. And this was the story as we were talking about what's going to happen today on the Ayuk front.
Because he was maybe going to be a Steeler.

Speaker 1 He was maybe going to be a Patriot. So he was in our world a lot.
And it felt like pretty big news, too, what was happening.

Speaker 1 So whenever he's just showing up in practice, and then we're trying to guess what the conversations are, locker room is like, hey, you got to do your business. And then as soon as he's back, all good.

Speaker 1 That's it. That's how you guys view it.
Yeah, it has to be.

Speaker 1 You know, I mean, because at the end of the day, like the whole business side, nobody knows outside of football, right, how that whole business side goes.

Speaker 1 It gets, you know, obviously both sides are competing to see, obviously, I want the most versus I want to give you the least, right?

Speaker 1 And so it's like, at the end of the day, you got to come together in consensus to get something done that both sides can agree on.

Speaker 1 The players have nothing to do with that, that are not involved in the deal, you know, and that's their situation. Let them handle that.

Speaker 1 And then when he gets back, welcome to open arms and let's get to work. Okay, that's good.
Because I think we said that that's probably exactly how it went.

Speaker 1 But boy, whenever whenever he was bopping around that practice, that was awesome. Yeah,

Speaker 1 that was an awesome day on the internet. Yeah, he changed his shorts at one point.
Yeah, that was awesome. That was just so much drama from us.

Speaker 1 I'm like the outside looking in, especially with how the year was going. D-Budd has a question for you, Frank.
Yeah, I just want to ask, which way are you leaning?

Speaker 1 It's early in the week, and I know you're more familiar with these teams than we are. Which way are you leaning if you are leaning a certain way? Yeah, no, I mean, if they could both lose, then that's

Speaker 1 I think that ultimately would be the best result possible, right? I don't know. I don't know, man.
I mean, there's something to be said about having been there and done it.

Speaker 1 But the Eagles are loaded. I think it's going to be a great game.
I don't know who's going to win, but it's going to be a good one to watch.

Speaker 1 So when you play a team like the Eagles, like with Saquon doing, what he's doing,

Speaker 1 do you think, okay, you're the right person to ask this question too, as I'm fully prepared to

Speaker 1 this entire interview on what I should ask you. Sure.
We think run game becoming much more

Speaker 1 prevalent. Yeah.
It's like cyclical happening right in front of our eyes, right? Yeah, it's a cycle. Went through pass game, which I think you benefited from because you were fast.

Speaker 1 You could run side to side. So I think linebackers had to get smaller because they had to be able to take over.
Call me small. Yeah, that's what he did.
Smaller.

Speaker 1 Smaller. All right.
How much do you weigh? How much do you weigh? 235. Okay, Erlaker was like 265 or something.
Oh, yeah, no.

Speaker 1 So it's been a dramatic change.

Speaker 1 I think AJ was playing like 245, 250 or something early on, yeah. Yeah, so it was big.
You had to be big because you were hitting, hitting, hitting. There you go.
A lot more running these days.

Speaker 1 Then it got spread out. You got to be able to run.
For sure. Now there's teams that are trying to take advantage of maybe the size of that in run games coming back.
Yes.

Speaker 1 You guys can feel that in your game planning week week to week and everything like that? Yeah, I mean, I think for forever and time the run game's got to be there in order to open up the pass game.

Speaker 1 For that to be effective, you have to have an effective run game.

Speaker 1 And I know for a fact that our offense, you know, 49, for as long as I've been here, I've heard Coach Shannon talk about how important the run game is. So, I mean, it is cyclical, though.

Speaker 1 You know, I think it is a matter of smaller guys playing out there on defense. You want to take advantage of that.
So then you get bigger guys, and then you spread it out a little bit more.

Speaker 1 So it's just going to continue to just go around in a circle. Are you an NBA fan?

Speaker 1 A little bit. you know, but I saw the news.
Luca. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You're a huge fan.

Speaker 1 I see the basketball at your feet. No, it's because there's a hoop over here.
You wanted to try to give away some money? Give away some money? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Sure. All right.
You'll get a chance to shoot. All right.
I might make myself look a little silly right here, but I don't mind. Bad balls.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 It's too light. Yeah, it's too light.
Way too light. Way too light.
I think you're going to. How about you? Give it a shot.
No, you'll granny shot. No, give it a shot.
No, you'll granny shot.

Speaker 1 You'll have four opportunities. Four opportunities? I can't just do a regular shot from right here.

Speaker 1 He can do a shot however you want. He can do whatever that wants.

Speaker 1 I think that's going to be a tough one.

Speaker 1 Line drive is. Liner.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think what you are attempting to do right now is going to be very difficult. You got it.

Speaker 1 Is that bolt really? Fred Warner.

Speaker 1 It's Fred Warner. Liner.

Speaker 1 Okay, okay. Okay, it's light.
It's light. It's light.
It's light. It's light.
Okay.

Speaker 1 All right, Fred.

Speaker 1 Fred,

Speaker 1 if you're able to make this shot right here,

Speaker 1 we will give 30 people $500

Speaker 1 to repost this video, say something nice to somebody, and put the easiest way to pay them. Shout out to Fred and Experian if that happens.
This is on

Speaker 1 X account, the platform formerly known as Twitcher. Okay, good.
Here we go. Fred, you do a lot of social?

Speaker 1 I'm not big on the socials, no. You dance on TikTok? Huh? No, I don't do the TikToks.
You dance? Shout out to Good America. Here we go.
30 people.

Speaker 1 30 people. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 You got right.

Speaker 1 There's no weight in the ball.

Speaker 1 That was going in. That hit the

Speaker 1 bat ball. Oh, my goodness.
All right, Fred. Here's the thing.
If you make it, let's double it. Come on.
Whoa. All right, Fred.
From

Speaker 1 the match,

Speaker 1 it's all part of the plan right here. Shout out to Experience.
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Speaker 1 Shout out to Fred Warner delivering that message. Come on.
Come on. Fred, if you make that ball into that hoop right over there.
Yeah. We'll give 50 people 500.
Wow.

Speaker 1 All they'll have to do is repost this video, say something nice to somebody, and put the easiest way to pay them on X. And if you make it, I think they'll say, wow, Fred Warren's a hero.

Speaker 1 I think they'll say, wow, experience is such a good ass. Wow.

Speaker 1 How convenient is that?

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Speaker 1 Wow, that's what you could do

Speaker 1 for 50 people who win $500. Here we go.
Good. Everybody got their cameras out for this right here.
There is a big camera on you right now.

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Speaker 1 We've seen that a thousand times.

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So same deal. Same deal.

Speaker 1 That's not a title. Rubbitate.
Rubbitate back. That's not a thing.
They're rubbing tape back. I agree.
I agree. But you're saying same deal.

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Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, it's four-time all-prop linebacker, Fred Warner from the San Francisco 49ers, here with our friends at Experian. Yep.
What a great app.

Speaker 1 Great commercial, too, honestly. Thank you.
And I appreciate it. Maybe want to get my wife.
I already have it. I got the boost, too.
Experient boost. What? Wow.
Yeah, you got it.

Speaker 1 Quick boost instantly. Boop.

Speaker 1 Also, my credit file. My credit file is locked, so nobody can steal my app.
You get that? I don't know. Yeah, I got the app.

Speaker 1 phone out. Oh, yeah, it's already on.

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Speaker 1 Fred, if you're able to make this shot for the good people at Experience,

Speaker 1 100 people will win $500.

Speaker 1 Holy shit. Here on our first day down

Speaker 1 on Radio Row. Fred, you could be a hero to harm people.
Wow. Wow.
100 people. This was all a part of the plan, by the way.
I've been missing on purpose to try to get you to do this.

Speaker 1 Oh, you said, let me throw this one through the backboard on the last one because you knew something bigger was coming. 100 people, $500.
Shout out to Experience, saving you time.

Speaker 1 We got to get you on a commercial, by the way. No, thank you.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 this guy sucks. Exactly.
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 Oh my God.

Speaker 1 All right, we'll just do it anyway. How about that? What? That's not how it works.
That's giving winners and losers.

Speaker 1 Fred, if you were to shoot one more time,

Speaker 1 these shots are over with. You're done with it.
I mean, I'll do it again.

Speaker 1 But, you know.

Speaker 1 Do you think you would make it, though? I think that's what I'm saying. You got to go to the next one.
Absolutely. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 Splash. You got to splash because it makes a football.
Fred, this was the plan. You got to press it.
This was the plan all along.

Speaker 1 The plan was to build a little bit of hype, a little bit of excitement. Right in your shooting pocket.

Speaker 1 A little bit of wonder. Is Fred Warner, four-time all-pro, going to be able to bury a basketball shot here down at Radio Row for Super Bowl 59? If he is able to do it, very light ball.

Speaker 1 That ball is tough to control. Slick.
Keep talking. Very slick.
Just one gust of

Speaker 1 through here, and that thing would be blown off course.

Speaker 1 This guy sucks.

Speaker 1 I've hit it in the same exact spot. To be fair, there are jingle bells on the rim.
Yeah, you know what? That does

Speaker 1 a combination of a lot of things. That's the rule.
I think mostly because I can't shoot. But all the other factors are important.
You know what you can do?

Speaker 1 You can spread a great message on saving time and money. That's right.
And that's what I learned today. Thank you for revisiting

Speaker 1 the worst year since your rookie year. Thank you.
With us today. I know that's not good.
2020 wasn't good either, but. As you were giving answers for anyone, buddy.

Speaker 1 Not just you, man.

Speaker 1 2020, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no.
Yeah, yeah. It was all of us.
Don't remember it forever, but yeah, yeah. You're 100% right, yeah, Fred.

Speaker 1 Yeah, 2020 was exactly.

Speaker 1 What do you think? That's a good call. Yeah.
Yeah, I guess football-wise was a good thing. Football wasn't too bad.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it wasn't too good either, but actually from a we appreciate the hell out of you, man. Thanks, brother.
Hopefully, we get a chance to catch up soon.

Speaker 1 And we all know next year is going to be much different than this past year for the Ninja.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 we're sorry you had to go through that, but the sun is brightest. Before the darkest dawn.
After the darkest dawn.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know what I mean? You got the main part in it. It kind of works both ways, Boltnauer.
Well, the thing about it is, I think it gets the reason why is because you've experienced the darkest.

Speaker 1 Sure. So now anything would be the brightest.
Practicality, though, what if it's a cloudy day? Never. Yeah, you're right.
It's cloudy. Red sky morning, you know? Sailor, take warning.

Speaker 1 Red sky at night.

Speaker 1 Sailors delight. We know it all.
And we know that you know ball.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, Fred Warner. Yeah, yeah, Fred, Fred.

Speaker 1 We know it all.

Speaker 1 Hey, you're really good. Yeah.
That was shit.

Speaker 1 It was tough. 2020 years, though.

Speaker 1 2020 year was tough. The 2020 year, he wasn't wrong.

Speaker 1 2020 wasn't tough. It sucks.
Yeah. And coming to New England.
We needed that reminder, too.

Speaker 1 Man, think about it. Think about it.

Speaker 1 Fred was cool.

Speaker 1 Hey, see you later, Fred. All right, Fred, work on this.
Hey, save time and money, Fred, with Experian. Careful with that rope.
That was really good work.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Shipley. We'll rejoin us out here.

Speaker 1 I think Experian's going to be pumped at Taylor.

Speaker 1 He's really good at selling the product. Like, he honestly, like, I understand why they hired him.
You know, have I ever met a Mormon that isn't good at talking? No.

Speaker 1 Good point. Good question.
I just learned a lot about the Mormons in American Primeval, Prime Evil. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Some bad people.

Speaker 1 Welcome, Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just throwing that out there. They killed a lot of people.
I was going to say.

Speaker 1 Some of them are some bad people.

Speaker 1 I think religion kills a lot of people. They killed a lot of people.

Speaker 1 Joe Smith was a bit of a savage. Really? Yeah, on the battlefield.
I did not know anything. That is what American Prime Evil is.
Yeah, they're a big part of. They were a gang and not a good one.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Because there is good gangs. Yeah.
Of course. Yeah, there is.
The Teamsters.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
What are we talking about? Welcome back, AQ Shirt. Alan Clay.
Welcome back, man. So, boys.

Speaker 1 Cred was great. I thought so too.
What'd you take away from it? Anything when you were listening in the back? What do you think people watching at home are like, ooh, fascinating there.

Speaker 1 They didn't know about Christian McCaffrey. I think that's a big deal.
Well, he doubled down on, you know, it works in cycles. I think that's coming.
I don't know when it's coming.

Speaker 1 But the big boys are coming back. You think? Yeah, I think everybody's starting to run the shit out of the ball.
It's going to happen in the next five years. We've got to start getting bigger.

Speaker 1 Well, and I think it's going to be with the modern athlete. You know, every combine, there's a new fastest human.

Speaker 1 Every combine there's a new biggest guy to jump that high So I think we're gonna be able to have the size to stop the run game and I think there's gonna be guys that can still fly like I think this linebacker position is gonna be awesome to watch going forward Especially if they're gonna have to thud.

Speaker 1 You gotta be able to do it all now. You definitely it you used to be able to get away with being like a you know in the box backer every once in a while.

Speaker 1 Now there's no like purely in the box back where I'm just going like B gap to B gap. You got to be able to do everything.

Speaker 1 I think you're still going to have to even though the big boys are coming back. But they're just looking for matchups.

Speaker 1 Hey, if you're trying to play nickel against us all day, we're going to put some big dudes in. We're going to overpower you.

Speaker 1 They want to get matchups.

Speaker 1 Darius, you weren't scared to tackle.

Speaker 1 That's why I saw your body lifeless on a couple fields.

Speaker 1 That was part of it. I was going to sting it.
Shout out to Singer. I do it all the time.
Stinger. Shoulder.
Shoulder. You know, throw the 185 around.
That was not a stinger.

Speaker 1 So, hey, to get this man off the field right. That's a good team, mate.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Ewal. Shout out to Ewal, yes.
But DBs are going to have to, I mean, that's going to become more and more and more and more and more popular.

Speaker 1 Not that, you know, DBs, there's corners, there's outliers. I think I'll watch through like NFL Films will show me something, and they'll be like, like, Deion will go make a hit.

Speaker 1 But we're not looking to do that every single day. Dude, no, no.
That is not the thought.

Speaker 1 There's going to become times now where the nickel is going to be expected to make a tackle on a very high percentage of plays off. Oh, yeah.
Nickels are starters now.

Speaker 1 And when you come in as a nickel back, you're replacing a backer. And the best run teams on offense, they force the guys on the edge to make tackles.
You know, they'll crack block.

Speaker 1 The best teams have good blocking receivers, so they'll go and block a safety and just leave that cornerback unaccounted for. And you can see the cycles with the numbers of carries.

Speaker 1 Like last year, I don't think it was one back that had 300 carries, and this year we had five or six. All the guys that move around got paid.
They did well in their new spot.

Speaker 1 So yeah, guys get drafted higher in the position again. Gibbs, you see what he's been able to do.
So yeah, it's definitely coming back around. I think so, too.
And what was the stat Hembo told us?

Speaker 1 Like 715 rush attempts, 519 pass attempts for the Philadelphia Eagles. They are very much a run-heavy offense.
And they happen to have the best offensive line in the game.

Speaker 1 Well, I think, too, just to piggyback off what DB says, right? Like, I I think there's so much speed on the outside that it forces teams into too high.

Speaker 1 When it's too high, we're hammering the run all game long.

Speaker 1 And then, once you start hammering the run game all game long, now safety's down in the box, and then we throw it deep. I'm impressed with Kelly Moe being disciplined, sticking with the run game.

Speaker 1 Sure. Especially because that was not the story about Kelly Moe.

Speaker 1 I know Kelly Moore once he was rumped scoreboard. Trying to get a head coaching job.
Hey, I've been there before. You take care of the program.
You take care of the football.

Speaker 1 Jalen Hurts, seven postseason games, no interceptions. So you take care of of that football and play good defense.
Usually a good recipe.

Speaker 1 On that note with Jalen Hurts and Patrick Mahomes and the run game. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time

Speaker 1 for AP Turns Better the Day.

Speaker 1 Jordan, AP Town, Better of the Day. Yeah, yesterday we talked about a player on each team to get a catch on their first drive.
We love the tight ends. We talked about Goddard.
We talked about Kelsey.

Speaker 1 We talked about all the history was there.

Speaker 1 Today's bet is going to be about the fourth quarter and the quarterback rushing yards. Patrick Mahomes over under, fourth quarter rushing yards, four and a half.

Speaker 1 Jalen Hurts over under, six and a half in the fourth quarter. Wow, over.
There are so many ways. Yes, over.
Feels like

Speaker 1 hey, scary, though. You never know.

Speaker 1 That is the one way to lose this because we've seen it. They take the kneel, especially if there's too much time on the clock when they're trying to waste time and they've got to go back

Speaker 1 10 yards or whatever. But both these guys, like, we've seen Mahomes in the fourth quarter a thousand times, whether it's a pass play and he's flushed out and he runs for it first down.
Way over.

Speaker 1 Or I talked about it with Fred.

Speaker 1 Third and one, fourth and one, they are always putting Patrick on the edge. Run pass option.
He is easily getting the four and a half there. And Jalen,

Speaker 1 a little bit different. He will take off and run in the pass game, but

Speaker 1 he could have three or four

Speaker 1 scheduled called runs. Hey, Juice, how do you feel about that touch? That touch pushes.
Yes, touch pushes. Oh, I didn't even think about touch push.
That picks it up by itself. Automatic.

Speaker 1 The reason why that was the bad of the day, I think, is because when Turn presented it, we all said, that seems too easy.

Speaker 1 Doesn't that feel too easy? 100%. Yeah, he's going to break some contain and tightrope the sidelines, and they're not going to hit him.

Speaker 1 He might get it just on the extra four yards he gets on the tightrope that he takes advantage of the rules.

Speaker 1 Well, even Mahomes, last time they played the Eagles, he had the ankle, and that was the story.

Speaker 1 He got tackled in the second quarter, first quarter, was super injured, and it was like, oh, okay, so Mahomes can't move.

Speaker 1 And then on their game-winning drive, he escaped for like 25 yards at the middle of the field because they weren't watching him. And that would be an easy over.

Speaker 1 Also, it's a Super Bowl, so fourth quarter. Let's assume both these guys are going to do anything they possibly can.
Yep.

Speaker 1 And everybody's scrambling for their life either to catch up or to extend the clock. I mean, it's just like.
He's going to get flushed naturally, too, with Phillies into your D-line.

Speaker 1 He's going to get flushed a little bit and have to run. Hey, that was AP Tones.

Speaker 1 Better than that. Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 1 What's the worst that could happen? Well, they probably changed the odds on it. Minus 110 for that, seemingly, how we all feel.
Yeah. Good odds.

Speaker 1 And now, remember, we did have a parlay a couple years back where all we needed was Bashmahomes to throw for like 220 yards or something.

Speaker 1 He had like three touchdowns and somehow only threw for 170 or so. Yeah, burrow the year before.
Yeah, sad. So

Speaker 1 everything always looks obvious. It does.
Which is why we're saying that's not guaranteed there. No.
But we like it. No such thing as better.
We like it a lot. We like them both.

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Speaker 1 Football! Hey, it's wonderful. It's a celebration this week down here in New Orleans.

Speaker 1 I think it is every week, most weeks down here, but this week we're celebrating ball and everybody that talks about sports has come to this wonderful town that's known for hosting people and having a good time.

Speaker 1 We'll be trying to do as such while chit-chatting with people we don't get to talk to all year because everybody's here. Now, the bathroom is about 70 yards that way.

Speaker 1 So as soon as that clock struck 57 and we went to a break, there is a full home alone at the airport

Speaker 1 sprint to the bathroom over here. Almost didn't make it back, but I'll tell you, this place is beautiful and it is certainly filling up.
We're lucky to be here.

Speaker 1 Trey Hendrickson will join us in about 10 minutes from the Cincinnati Bengals.

Speaker 1 He knows this area. Oh, yeah, yeah, very well.
He knows this area very well. Cannot wait to chit-chat with him.
The Toxic Tables here at Boss Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Sweet shirt, Con Man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, thank you very much. I actually screwed up the order on it.
It shouldn't have been all black. Of course, slop them up, sloppy steaks.
We all know what we're doing here.

Speaker 1 I can't wait to slop them up later on too with you fellas, but no, this is a nice one. I've been waiting to break this one out.

Speaker 1 It's a good little shirt. It looks very professional.
You look like you're dressed up, up. And the hair, a lot of people commenting, really bringing your A-game at the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Daniel, I figured this is the year. You know, hey,

Speaker 1 let's stop screwing around. We're growing up.
You know, this isn't our first rodeo. I might as well act like it for a while.
We've been here a lot. Yeah, it's kind of crazy.

Speaker 1 It is wild because although this is like, you know, we've only been on ESPN now the last two years, two seasons here. We've been coming here a long time.
Long time.

Speaker 1 And we never understood why ESPN didn't come here. No.
Like, legitimately never. Still don't.
Still don't get it.

Speaker 1 Still don't fully understand. Still not do it.
Because you can really feel it. Yeah.
You You know? And everybody in here loves the game.

Speaker 1 Everybody loves sport, or at least covers the game and loves the sport. And there's an actual palpable buzz.
It feels like the Super Bowl week. It does.

Speaker 1 Like while the show has gone on, I've been thinking to myself, yeah, it's a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 You know, it's almost like, I don't want to say I was kind of forgetting about that, but then as it was going, it's like, man, Jay Glazer just walked by everybody. What? Where? What did that go?

Speaker 1 Jay Glazer just walked by everything. I mean, it's just like the amount of people that are walking by, it's like,

Speaker 1 we're in the game now. And shout out to New Orleans for being the host and shout out to the football community coming together to celebrate a hell of a season.
Yeah, without a doubt.

Speaker 1 And like you said, you know, if we were, you know, at some restaurant or some beer garden, you're not getting that. You're not getting Glaze walking by and just everybody on the set.

Speaker 1 You know, I mean, is it a little distracting? Sure. Because, you know, you see Jay Glazer, your eyes go right to him.
Well, that's the thing.

Speaker 1 I was talking to Fred here, and then literally everybody in the back, head

Speaker 1 turned that way.

Speaker 1 Mark Ingram said hi.

Speaker 1 Okay, so I still didn't, to this moment, moment, I had no idea who it was because I didn't want to disrespect Fred, but I couldn't wait to hear who was potentially walking by because it could be anybody.

Speaker 1 Exactly. One half of the hammer.

Speaker 1 Cowboys AP Tone is here, just gave out his bet of the day. The over-under on quarterback rush yards in the fourth quarter, seemingly lower than we would expect for both of these quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 I like that we're giving those out. Maybe a little, hey, something to think about.
We got plenty. I mean, there are thousands and thousands of bets for the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 It is the greatest spectacle of all time as far as the betting world is concerned. So we'll have more tomorrow, more the day afterwards.
What's the national anthem? Time.

Speaker 1 So, you know, since sports betting has moved to not offshore and legal, they don't really do that anymore.

Speaker 1 That's Bull. Who's singing it? Who's singing it?

Speaker 1 I don't even know who's singing it. You got to pay attention.
Who did it at the Royal Rumble? That lady. I don't know, but it was the older.

Speaker 1 It was good and it was long. It was good and it was long from the greatest.
I mean, good lord. Yeah, it was long.
I get it. It was long.
There's one thing you don't remix, okay?

Speaker 1 And that's National Anthem. Oh, she did.
They remixed. She said all the words out of herself.

Speaker 1 She was giving herself 10 seconds in between words. Beautiful.
She was breathing because she wanted to make sure she hit it properly. Absolutely.
Beautiful. It was long.
It was a long one, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, very long. But good.
I actually got cut.

Speaker 1 120 seconds, allegedly, is what chat is saying at the moment for the national anthem. But as I was sitting there, I kind of got emotional for a second because it was like Lucas Hall Stadium, you know?

Speaker 1 And you're like doing it, and the place is packed out. And it's like, oh, shit, this is

Speaker 1 a pretty cool little thing here. Yeah.
You know, for my life, this is a pretty cool little thing.

Speaker 1 So I started like getting a little emotional and I'm staring at that window and I'm like, I fucking hate that.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Like that window was my, that's my enemy there.
Because when that window was open, that thing was a wind tunnel and my life was worse than everybody else's on the field whenever that happened.

Speaker 1 So I hated that thing. So literally as I was standing there, I was like, you know, talking shit to the window.
Good to see you again, you know, and then look over at the jumbo trones in there.

Speaker 1 Then I'm having a moment. I'm like, it's pretty cool.
Looks all stadium, feel like this is a good moment that, you know, I should take in. This is a pretty cool thing.

Speaker 1 And then all of a sudden, I'm like, where are we? She was two, she was two sentences in. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 1 We were. 15-second pauses.
I mean, I looked at Cole at one point. Holy shit, the Bears here.
But I looked at Cole at one point, and I think we were both like... We got a long way to go here.

Speaker 1 What's going on? But it was great. She nailed every note.
She did. She nailed every single note.
So it was a great performance, but it was long, I agree. Nine-year NFL vet Darius J.

Speaker 1 Butler's here looking incredibly cool. Yes, sir.
I appreciate that. Super Bowl champion, college football national champion, A.J.
Hawk is here. 12-year NFL vet, Super Bowl champion, A.Q.

Speaker 1 Shipley's here. And ladies and gentlemen, a man who works for Fox now,

Speaker 1 used to work for ESPN and for Game Day.

Speaker 1 He goes by a professional name now, I believe. He does.
Oh. Ladies and gentlemen, friend of the program, Chris Felica, also known as Bear.
Bear. Bay Bear.
Bear.

Speaker 1 Wandering by and figured I'd stop by. How are you? How's life? I'm good.

Speaker 1 The college football season, 12-team playoff. biggest season, longest season of all time.
You've been around college for so, so long. Your thoughts on it? I liked it a lot more than I thought I would.

Speaker 1 I was not pro-expansion, but it was pretty cool to have that many games and keep that many fan bases interest in it. Now, the weight between the games, that's another story, but

Speaker 1 you want to change the seating, I assume. Yeah, the seating.
The seating was a joke. You should just do it one through 12.

Speaker 1 One, two, three, four, get buys,

Speaker 1 and we go from there. How do you feel about how cold that damn those games were? That was awesome.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but if they move it to like a lot of us were pitching, there needs to be another round of home field games. Yes.
Hell no.

Speaker 1 Yeah, shit. It would be so cold.

Speaker 1 I honestly, I don't know. And maybe this winter was different.
Maybe this winter was colder. I think it was cold as winter.
I mean, the NFL does it every year. This winter was cold as shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and the NFL does do it. You guys looked very comfortable on Columbus that night.
It was good.

Speaker 1 That was cold as shit, I bet.

Speaker 1 I was sitting on my couch, I was like disciplined. I'm like, I wish we were doing, Big Dude was doing a show there.
And I'm like, nah, actually, I know. My couch is kind of ice.
It is ice cold.

Speaker 1 But that was a part of the conversation. And like,

Speaker 1 you know, how the conversation goes around SEC bias, you know, SEC bias, SEC bias. There's a lot of that that happens, okay? Well, ESPN is the SEC bias.
Okay.

Speaker 1 The big 10 bias. Do you guys get that? Did they say that about you guys? Absolutely.
Okay, so everybody gets attacked for that because it is attackable. Okay, that makes sense.

Speaker 1 That helps me out a little bit more. But the conversation was like, in the SEC, you got to play these big ones every single week, you know? That's what the SEC coaches say.

Speaker 1 Nick says it, Kirby says it, Lane Kiffen says it. Everybody says it, you know? What the North never said back is every week late in the season, we got to play in freezing cold temperatures.

Speaker 1 So we can't be built as fast. We got to be built a little bit more physical.
And that cold weather being an equalizer, I think, was big for college football. It was awesome.

Speaker 1 Especially with how, it was like the coldest. It was like the North showed up, too.
It was like, I want to make this shit as miserable as possible.

Speaker 1 The North remembers we're going Game of Thrones there. Will Howard did.
Yeah. How'd you feel about Will Howard? Awesome.
That was great.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 that was the best part about the portal: seeing a guy like Will Howard go somewhere, do well. Indiana, the season that they had, bringing all these guys and revamping their team were the Vandy.

Speaker 1 But Howard was a guy who, remember, earlier in the year, it was like, ooh, is this the guy who had a terrible game

Speaker 1 against Michigan? Like, can they actually do this? But he was great, and that throw to Jeremiah was ridiculous. Third and 11, unbelievable.
Chip Kelly's last call, basically. How about that goal?

Speaker 1 How Chip? Back to the NFL. Like it or don't like it? Good for him.

Speaker 1 He got his college redemption,

Speaker 1 won his ring, won his chip with the Buckeyes. They may even go out to the Raiders there with Pete and make playoffs.
And

Speaker 1 life is good as an offensive coordinator, as we know. Yes, it is.
Hey, Bear, we miss you, brother. Good to see you.
Tony, you have any questions for Bear? Yeah, we have to ask the Bear.

Speaker 1 Do you have a favorite bet for the Super Bowl? I play in under 49.

Speaker 1 I don't think it's as high scoring as people think. I think we had long, time-consuming drives, and

Speaker 1 I don't think we're seeing both teams in the 30, under 49. As we

Speaker 1 chit-chat about how we felt about the fourth quarter rushing yards, I'm excited to get his answer because how we all feel.

Speaker 1 So we all feel one way.

Speaker 1 So that would normally mean, how do you feel about this particular prop? Fourth quarter rush yards for the quarterbacks. That was pretty good.
Jalen Hurts is like

Speaker 1 six and a half yards in the fourth quarter. Patrick Mahomes, four and a half yards in the fourth quarter.
Obviously, the kneel down is a thing. Right, exactly.
We all love the over, though.

Speaker 1 We all love the over for how these offenses operate and what this season has been. How do you feel? Have you thought about that? Have you heard about that? And what is your immediate reaction?

Speaker 1 I got burned on Mahomes' over against the Niners in 2020 with all the negative seven, negative eight, and that cost me my bed. But I like that because I think

Speaker 1 you probably, and I'm going to factor in, that's one of the things. I like Mahomes' first carry over four and a half yards because I think you're going to see pressure.

Speaker 1 The one thing that defense can't contain and prepare for is Mahomes, everyone's covered. Gain is seven.
First down, move to six. But I like that.

Speaker 1 Very quick.

Speaker 1 But I like that in the fourth quarter as well because you figure these teams are going to be third and third and five, pass rush, everyone covered, takeoff, first down. I'd go over on both of those.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
Are they bear? All right. We're really bear.
That's big. Hey, we appreciate you, Chris.
Good luck dressing the way, buddy. Love you, Bear.
Love you, Bear. Love you, Bear.

Speaker 1 Bear's a man.

Speaker 1 He's like a dancing bear there, did you see him? Yeah, yeah. Whoa.
He has so much knowledge about the pass.

Speaker 1 He really does, yeah.

Speaker 1 That was kind of the thing at game day i didn't get a chance to experience it you know because he was on his way out basically as i was uh coming in so we got like one year together just you fire something over at him and it's just like a rolodex actually opening in his brain like the way his eyes just

Speaker 1 go through the pages calculating search through here and boom yes it was jack it was yes it was yeah the kid from ohio yes he's from ohio yeah five star like you see him like unraveling things, like more information.

Speaker 1 It's like, special guy, special talent. I mean,

Speaker 1 I love my time with Bear. Hilarious human being.
And the other guy's not half bad either.

Speaker 1 Love Stanford Steve. Hey, he's a locker room guy.
Oh, yeah. Stanford Steve.
Speaking of AQ Shibley here, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 1 All right, Qsh, what have we not talked about enough, you think, in the sports world? Luka Donchic being the dumbest thing that has ever happened. Do you think

Speaker 1 you're an NBA guy at

Speaker 1 people forget high school basketball hall of famer? Yo, that's right.

Speaker 1 You used to dunk on that big guy? Nate Hartong. There it is.
Well, he didn't dunk on Hardon. Hartong dunked on him.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That toughness you see from him is because

Speaker 1 I thought I saw him on it. In the G League? No, Ed Marie.
BYU guy. He's up in Shermanborough.
He went to BYU? Thank you for the coffee. Here's a more cool.
Cup of coffee.

Speaker 1 They don't drink. If he went to the coffee, he drank the third.
Cup of tea. There it is.
Cup of decaf tea, too. Okay, so Luca Donchick

Speaker 1 gets traded out of Dallas. We've talked about this numerous times off air as well.
I'm trying my best not to be like,

Speaker 1 I hate the Dallas Mavericks. Okay.
Like, I'm trying my best not to be. Luca has become maybe other than Tyrese Halliburton and the Pacers, okay?

Speaker 1 Because I love that squad, TJ McConnell, Spicy P and the Boys. Love them.
Okay, good people, too. Been great in Indianapolis.
We appreciate the hell out of them.

Speaker 1 It's all of a sudden, like, Luca's big babyface in my eyes. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 It's like Luca put this place and this organization on his back from what we're watching, from what matters on the court oh yeah what the actual business is what the actual thing is all the way to the finals and then a couple people in the building we don't like the way this guy goes about doing what he's doing we want and they just run his ass out of town pretty much that's crazy to happen to a star in the nba but i guess it should kind of reframe our idea that all the stars run the nba sure you know like maybe it's not like that maybe it is maybe it does have some nfl in it where people will let pettiness or think that their super geniuses get in the way of decisions i mean it's it was a wild move what are your thoughts on it i mean he's 25 years old, and he's a top three player in the NBA, right?

Speaker 1 I mean, at the end of the day, in his prime, and you just let him walk out of the building, you don't let good players. No, you don't want him walked.
You actually kick his ass out. Boom, get out.

Speaker 1 Hello. Get out.
Yeah, you just don't let that happen. You just don't.
I mean, it's when you got good players and you got good people, keep them in your building.

Speaker 1 It's so crazy that, like, there's rumors of Yannis being traded now. And, like, normally you'd be like, well, that's definitely not happening.
But now this year, you're like, maybe it will.

Speaker 1 I only know if Sean tweets it. Bingo.
What did he get off the call for?

Speaker 1 He got off the call for some other schlub. Getting a trade out of the day.

Speaker 1 He had a big one today, though. Schlub, what are you talking about? Schlub.
These guys are in the NBA.

Speaker 1 Exactly. He's a fantastic player.
But when you go from Luca to a guy who isn't Luca, it is going to be a schlub. But the Milwaukee Bucks did trade for Kyle Kuzma today.
They moved Chris Middleton.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was the big one this morning, which is kind of a massive trade, but also Kyle Kuzma. Who knows? Washington Wizards were looking into Kevin Durant potentially.
That's right. Oh, Pac's here.

Speaker 1 Shmell me, Pat.

Speaker 1 Pac-Man Jones shows here. Smell me.

Speaker 1 Pac, what are you doing? Are you live down here? Yeah, I'm live. Pac-Man Jones show? Oh, no, not live on the show.
Just making my rounds. Okay.
Hey, how is a great season out of you?

Speaker 1 Proud of you, my bad Pat.

Speaker 1 Proud of you, man. Proud of you, dude.
Good year. Good interviews.

Speaker 1 How'd you get into Flow? Did you enjoy the season as a whole? Yeah, I did. It took me a little time to find my groove, but I found my groove.

Speaker 1 Enjoyed talking shit, watching you guys, stealing a lot of things from y'all. Hey, it's all right.

Speaker 1 Let's smell my brother over there, man? I like the hair. Look at your jacket, man.
That dude is so cool, dude. You know, everybody can't wear it when they work.
Yeah, yeah, I know. Any day.

Speaker 1 I could not wear any of it, but I like two mics on you, Schmelme. I mean, you are rolling.
Co-host here. Hey, what's up, man? Dude, how are you doing?

Speaker 1 So you're originally from, I looked it up a little bit. Originally from TMZ,

Speaker 1 now working with PAC. Yes, sir.
You guys are great. Creighton, he became inside.

Speaker 1 PAC became an insider. You guys started breaking news.

Speaker 1 Are you excited to be in the sports world with Pack? Fired up about it. Nice.
It's a rocket ship, man. We're having a blast.
Okay, so how often are we recording?

Speaker 1 Twice a week. Let's go.
Let's go. Let's go.

Speaker 1 Let's go.

Speaker 1 Pack. How's the family? Family's great.
They run around here.

Speaker 1 Hey, what's up, Tish? Good to see you. Good.
Boys are doing good.

Speaker 1 Hey, a lot of conversation around West Virginia right now. A lot of conversation, my buddy.
Hey, I think we're going to have a quarterback that's able to throw, so maybe, you know, there's a

Speaker 1 wide receiver.

Speaker 1 how has it been going though it's going good man um he's

Speaker 1 I would say 95% healthy now coming back off the knee injury I don't know it's gonna be interesting where he picked to go we're talking about Chris Henry Jr.

Speaker 1 here obviously baby boy of slim who has been you know in the Pac-Man Jones residence and house since then

Speaker 1 whenever you think about West Virginia bringing Rich Rod back. I know we've talked about this obviously off air.
We're back, I think. Buster Jiddie's back.
We're back.

Speaker 1 It might take us a little bit, but we're back. We've started with the quarterback.
We got quarterbacks. So, yeah,

Speaker 3 I'm pretty eager that we're winning over six and a half games.

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 1 I think that's where we're starting. I like it.

Speaker 1 I don't love it. That's where we're at.
Easy. Schedule Can I say it looks pretty doable.
All right. Hey, keep crushing it.
We're proud of you, man. I love y'all, man.
Hey, you too.

Speaker 1 Sick jacket.

Speaker 1 Sweet.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 AQ will do the Shipley shuffle. Yep.

Speaker 1 As our next guest will get suited and booted. This is an honor here.

Speaker 1 I feel like this is a pretty cool opportunity. Oh, yeah.
It does really hit you, too, like, oh, shit, the Super Bowl is on Sunday, like the last game of the year. The entire season boils down to this.

Speaker 1 It's the best. We've been a fan of this dude for a long time because doesn't wear gloves.
Sure. Old school.
Goes about his business.

Speaker 1 Has had quite showing for the Cincinnati Bengals. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's from the warm, too.

Speaker 1 So, grew up in Florida, doing it in Cincinnati day in, day out.

Speaker 1 I respect that.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen,

Speaker 1 one of the greatest in the game in history. Sack leader from the 2024 NFL season.
35 and a half sacks over the last two years. Ladies and gentlemen, Trey Hendrickson.

Speaker 1 Oh, what? What's up, man? So fair.

Speaker 1 He looks like a teenager, bro. He looks like a teenager.
I like these little Nike slits.

Speaker 1 Nice, nice. I want those Nike slits.
He's got a tape on his finger still. He probably just takes a trip.
Oh, he broke his finger, Todd.

Speaker 1 Hey, check him.

Speaker 1 Packer fail. Oh, shit.
Every time I hurt your hand.

Speaker 1 Teddy Karris is over to the right. Oh, Doug Goat.
Yeah. Doug Goat.
Hey, baby, Teddy. Good to see you, dude.
Good to see you, Teddy. Great to see you, Pat.
Got a hat for you. You know I do.
Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 I can't wait to hear what Trey has to say. say.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got it.
Go ahead. Okay.

Speaker 1 Trey, obviously, teammate there at Teddy Karras. What an absolute legend.

Speaker 1 Do you know that in his sophomore year of high school, he drank a gallon of milk every day because he was trying to gain weight?

Speaker 3 Every day. I heard the stories.
I heard the vomiting stories, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. He said he got sick and he made him feel terrible, but it didn't work.
But he just committed to it because he wanted to be an NFL guy, family and NFL guy. Let's talk about you.
Trey.

Speaker 1 Incredible. Hey, getting to the pastor, buddy.
Yeah, absolutely. Oh, yeah.
I appreciate it. Getting to the pastor.
And I mentioned it there. You're from Florida.
You play in the cold.

Speaker 1 In Cincinnati is where I think you've kind of done your hello world. I'm a real player.

Speaker 1 How has Cincinnati been? Being in a cold-ass city during football season, how has that been? And what are your thoughts on the Cincinnati Bengals 2024 season? That was.

Speaker 3 Well, you know, first off, I love Cincinnati. I mean, it's been a

Speaker 3 home to me. My son was born there.

Speaker 3 You know, tremendous opportunity to play football at a high level.

Speaker 3 You know, 2024 season, I think playoffs was the goal. You know, sitting out last two years was kind of tough.

Speaker 3 But end of the day, I think we did great, you know, to rally around the guys we had and playing for a cause.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was a weird year. We were just talking to Fred Warner.
Weird year for the Niners. Felt like a weird year for you guys because so many people were playing great, including you.

Speaker 1 So many people were playing great, but for one reason or another, it wasn't working out.

Speaker 1 When you look back on the year, and you guys went on that late run, obviously, when you look back on it, always had faith, going to make the playoffs, always had faith we're going to be in this thing in the end, thought you had it on this team?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I think, you know, when you have a guy like Joe Burrows spinning it at a high level, Jamar Chase, T. Higgins catching the ball, Chase Brown running it.

Speaker 3 Great O-line too, you know, like you have that offense set.

Speaker 3 You know, our defense kind of found our own groove coming into the end of the season. And credit to Lou Anarumo for, you know, putting that together for us and leading us to a winning season.

Speaker 1 So Lou Anarumo now with the Indianapolis Colts, he's friend of the program. Oh, yeah.
He's been on, Paison. We've gotten a chance to chit-chat with him.

Speaker 1 What type of defense do you think he brings in Indianapolis whenever it comes to like the humans he's looking for? And how did you feel as Lou Annarumo, the coach for Trey Hendrickson?

Speaker 3 Well, I was blessed to be productive under his scheme, you know, and I think he does a good job of making it a very open room, meaning like you can talk to him about scheme.

Speaker 3 This doesn't necessarily fit to what we think we're going to do to attack him.

Speaker 3 Very organic. And he's a leader of elite men.
He got guys at four and eight to kind of rally behind a cause and continue to win football games. And I love him.
He's a great friend to me.

Speaker 3 He was a mentor to me as well with kind of some of the struggles that happen as you become a successful player.

Speaker 3 And through that, he's been a tremendous mentor and I wish him nothing but the best.

Speaker 1 What do you mean about those struggles that come?

Speaker 1 First of all, I love hearing that about the new Indianapolis Scotts Defense Gordon air shot to Lou Adarubo.

Speaker 1 Whenever you say the struggles, whenever it comes like becoming great, what do you mean by that?

Speaker 3 You know, like it was one of those things that there were some question marks when I signed in Cincinnati originally.

Speaker 3 And, you know, he's always been there and supporting me in every direction that I had to go you know and as I continue to grow as a player you know to stay humble and you know to be productive under his defense was special.

Speaker 1 Did he say you should put gloves on?

Speaker 3 He mentioned it a couple times. He saw me getting a little bloodied up and he's like, you know, probably should throw gloves on, but

Speaker 3 I'm too far gone.

Speaker 1 Okay, so what is it? You like the feel of it?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 3 it's an old-style mentality. I think tape does the job.
You know, Sam thinks I'm nuts, but you know, it is what it is.

Speaker 1 Hey, and what's on your finger there?

Speaker 3 So this is like one of those boutonni fingers, you know, you got to keep it straight. Actually, this is like Sam's, like, like his brace.
Like, he, like, designed it.

Speaker 3 Obviously, it's mine, but this was his, you know, baby on paper. So it works like a dream, so it's healing great.

Speaker 1 Okay, so your fingers are going to be nasty when you're done.

Speaker 3 Hopefully not. They're doing well so far.
Yeah. But

Speaker 1 he does have straight fingers. What happened?

Speaker 1 What happened to you? He's got a strike shot. I wore gloves.
That was my problem. Oh, you think the gloves? I think that's the problem.
Yeah, I know. I wasn't tough enough.
So what is it?

Speaker 1 You put gloves on and you say,

Speaker 1 I cannot imagine playing.

Speaker 1 I couldn't mean either in some ways.

Speaker 3 It was definitely one of those things that I slipped off Tyrod Taylor a couple times in preseason, sweaty gloves, you know, and it's just like, I've had enough of these.

Speaker 3 Okay. And then since then, it was just kind of like a mentality.
And from there, we just.

Speaker 1 How are the hands? How are the hands? Hands feel great. No, catching.
Can you catch? Oh, yeah, I'm pretty good. I'm all right.

Speaker 3 I played tight end in high school.

Speaker 1 They need to let you get in there and slip. D-Bun has a question for you, Trey.
Yeah, how frustrating is it now? How different is it now?

Speaker 1 Now that you're at the top of the league, you're not creeping up on anybody. You are a game record.
So on Wednesdays, offenses are going in and putting you on the screen.

Speaker 1 Just let the league get sacked. So now, how is your prep changed now going into Sundays? Sacking.

Speaker 3 Well, I think, you know,

Speaker 3 you don't want to go too far away from the fundamentals and technique that get you to where you want to be.

Speaker 3 You know, it's the small steps in life that get you, and it's the consistency of, you know, chopping wood every week that makes the tree fall.

Speaker 3 So, you know, I've been blessed to have an opportunity to rush at a high level. All credit to my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
You know, I'm very thankful of that.

Speaker 3 And, you know, obviously being with great teammates and great schemes, like I said, wish nothing but the best to Lou and all the teammates I've played with.

Speaker 1 So when Jesus Christ blessed you with life,

Speaker 1 he said this guy's going to have a high motor, good getoff, explosion. What do you think you work on most? And what do you think is the thing that like you do well?

Speaker 1 Like what do you know is like the thing that you're great at?

Speaker 3 Well, you know, I've been explosive. You know, that's a good way of putting it.
I think, you know, you can kind of see at a young age that you can do those things and play football that way.

Speaker 3 But, you know, I've been blessed to have a lot of great coaches in my life. You know, Ryan Nielsen, when I was first drafted, Charlie Partridge, who's with the Colts as well, was my head coach at FAU.

Speaker 1 Fantastic coach. Fantastic.
He's a good Indian man.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he's a good dude. So, you know, it's not just me.
You know, it's the people I've met along the way that have molded me and shaped me into who I am today.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you've done the work, though. Yeah.

Speaker 3 It's fun to put in work.

Speaker 1 So you're from Popka.

Speaker 3 Orlando, Florida, North of Popka. Yeah, Popka.

Speaker 1 And then you were down here in, obviously, Louisiana. Yep, four years.
And you have

Speaker 1 Hello World party in Cincinnati. Yeah.
And now the big question is, and I don't like to do this, but we got to. I want to let you know we asked Fred Warren some tough questions.
Yeah, we did do it.

Speaker 1 Very tough ones, like the Mormon one. He's hat in the pocket.
That's a tough question. He certainly did.

Speaker 1 It was. For sure.
Yeah, but he got it right. I think.
I think.

Speaker 1 I'm going to act like it. I'm going to act like it was right.

Speaker 1 Hashtag journalism. So when we're chatting about the Bengals, everybody needs paid.
Yep. Everybody needs paid.

Speaker 1 The same thing with the Niners. Every single year, the Niners deal with a similar situation.

Speaker 1 When you have a lot of great players, especially if you draft them, so they're coming up on their first big paydays,

Speaker 1 or you kind of make them, and it kind of happens there. You got massive paydays around the corner, especially with where the NFL salaries are going.

Speaker 1 $275 million projected cap next year, but that could even go even more through the roof. You are at a position that is always going to be very, very important.

Speaker 1 Whenever all this shit is happening around you on your team, I don't think we've ever heard you talk about it at all. What is your mentality? Do you say like the business will take care of itself?

Speaker 1 I got to focus, like, how do you handle it all? And do you guys know the situation that is happening around you business-wise?

Speaker 3 Well, credit to my wife. She has to listen to me when I go home.
So, you know, she's been such a blessing to kind of bounce ideas off of. But I think there's a time and a place.
place.

Speaker 3 You know, I think the offseason is a good spot to kind of address these kind of issues that do come up.

Speaker 3 And during the season, you know, when you're talking about OTAs or camp, you know, you don't want to become a distraction for the team because inevitably the goal is to win a Super Bowl for Cincinnati.

Speaker 3 You know, what that looks like this season, you know,

Speaker 3 if it's something that we can agree on in terms, you know, that would be great. Ideally, my wife and I would love to stay in Cincinnati.

Speaker 3 If it's something that helps the Bengals win a Super Bowl, if they get picks or anything like that, I want to help win a Super Bowl for Cincinnati if I'm there or not.

Speaker 1 Okay, interesting, because Duke is speaking about it now. Duke Tobin, general manager for the Cincinnati Bengals, he was at the senior bowl and he chit-chatted about it.

Speaker 1 And I don't even think we really were like, oh, Trey, there is a situation because everything's on the offensive side.

Speaker 1 So going forward, do you see something you have to experience and live life with right now? This is a part of your life right now, having to deal with what the future looks like.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I would have preferred to kind of have heard it differently than my dad texting me a tweet. You know, that would have been great to kind of figure it out that way.

Speaker 3 But, you know, obviously the table is being set in that way, but

Speaker 3 I just, I love to play football. I love the for the for my play to do the talking.
And at the end of the day, I think the chips will fall where they're going to be.

Speaker 3 And like I said, whether whatever happens, I want to win a Super Bowl for Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 Good time to be a sack king. Pay to man.

Speaker 1 Pay to man.

Speaker 1 What are we talking about? Good time to be a sack king. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Good for you, Trey. No gloves.
Don't want to talk about it. I don't want to be a distraction.
Everybody else is pissed about their money. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Me too. I mean, there's stuff.
I'm not pissed, but I'm wondering. I think you're doing all right.
Wondering. I think you're doing all right.
Yeah, I think you're wondering. No, you.

Speaker 1 I'm talking about you. Yeah, you're doing all right.
Well, thank you. We are doing good.
The crew is doing good, but we,

Speaker 1 I could see how you were wondering about, like, well, when am I allowed to, is there even a, I don't know how this, I don't want to distract anything from anybody.

Speaker 1 And you talk about winning a Super Bowl. It's hard to win a Super Bowl, dude.

Speaker 3 Well, look, it's a kind of, there's a couple things that you want to, like, you know, you have to separate the business and the personal.

Speaker 3 You know, like with my wife and my family, you know, we're looking for like long-term security guarantees. Those kind of things matter when you're playing a violent sport.

Speaker 3 And when you take the risk, we talked about it last year with the front office and things like that. And I have nothing but respect for them.
They've taken care of my family beyond my wildest dreams.

Speaker 3 You know, I was running down on special teams at like L3 in 2019.

Speaker 3 So to come this way and to be rewarded for the way I played in New Orleans, I'm very humbled and appreciative of the opportunity that they've gave me.

Speaker 3 I continue to chop wood, like I said, continue the hard work that the Lord has put on my heart, and

Speaker 3 let the chips fall where they will.

Speaker 1 The Lord dropping you at L3 is a wild place. You're way too big to be an L3.
You are way too big to be an L3. I appreciate you saying that.
AJ has a question for you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we know you've had a lot of, you've had success playing against this Chiefs team, like especially individually.

Speaker 1 We know you can rush the passer. What What does this Chiefs offense do that makes it so tough to beat them?

Speaker 3 Well, I think you've got a really special head coach, and then you have really talented quarterback, tight end, and a lot of key pieces.

Speaker 3 You know, then they like to have fun out there, you know, like they're John.

Speaker 1 Can you feel, like, can you tell, like, in the biggest games, are they, you can hear them talking to them, like, does it look like they're all, it's a collaborative effort?

Speaker 3 Yeah, and they look like very, very smooth, too, you know. But, I mean,

Speaker 3 again, credit to Lou. You know, we've had their number a couple times.
They've had our number. It's been great games, You know, and it's fun to sack

Speaker 3 Pat Mahomes.

Speaker 1 It's fun to watch your highlights, too.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I saw it over there in the corner, but

Speaker 3 he's a tremendous quarterback, you know, and he's been in such big games very often. And, you know, credit to him and what he's done for his team.

Speaker 1 What was that celebration there? What was that celebration there? I saw at the end where he gave a kiss up to the Lord, I believe.

Speaker 1 Do arms straight out.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's a credit to like Demario Davis. He had that one.
That's the Lord, you know, he's been good to me. Yeah, so, you know,

Speaker 3 Jesus on the cross right there yeah everything that I am I want to be you know given to the Lord it's not for me to take ownership of these things you know I've I've been blessed to have very humble parents and you know humble upbringing my brother's here with me today tall great kids big SOB so you know like Lord planting tall trees

Speaker 3 but just good people you know and everything I am and everything I do,

Speaker 3 I want to glorify the Lord with it.

Speaker 1 Love everything about it. Connor has a question for you.
Yeah, sure. I mean, we'll see how everything works out, but it feels like you and T.
Higgins are going to look great in New England.

Speaker 1 But when it comes to the season, how was the hard knocks experience? Obviously, you mentioned you don't really do media that much. Ted said it too.
Like,

Speaker 1 how was that kind of dealing with cameras and microphones all over the place when obviously

Speaker 1 that hadn't happened in the past?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I think it was just good to be yourself.

Speaker 3 It was different for sure. I mean, you got cameras that would rotate every once in a while, and then you're on camera for the rest of the day.

Speaker 3 You know, you got guys mic'd up that normally aren't.

Speaker 3 You know, it was an interesting experience. It also got to see like how other teams practiced in our division, you know, and

Speaker 3 that was that was a cool experience, but would I sign up for it every year? Probably not. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think everybody that's ever done it says the same exact thing. We enjoyed watching if it means anything.
Do you lotion five, six times a day? Face?

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 1 How old are you?

Speaker 3 30 years old.

Speaker 1 Look great. Wow.
Good skinny. Could have been 20.

Speaker 3 Appreciate the compliments. Look for your face, dude.
Do I blushing.

Speaker 1 I don't think you can. I don't know if you have the possibility.

Speaker 1 I can't blush. Unbelievable.
Tony has a question for you. Yeah, speaking of the division, what is it about the AFC North? Obviously, you, you're the sack king now.
Miles has been the sack king.

Speaker 1 TJ's been the sack king. The Ravens always have someone.
I think Kyle Van Noy had 12 or 13 this year. What do you think it is about the AFC North that just breeds pass rushers?

Speaker 3 It sounds a little bit like the 2017 draft, but yeah, you know,

Speaker 1 it is

Speaker 3 that real?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. At home groups 2017?

Speaker 3 Yeah, Van Noy might not be, but he's amazing.

Speaker 3 He was just at the Pro Bowl. Great guy.

Speaker 1 He's seven, I think. Yeah, he's someone who dies.

Speaker 3 But yeah, no, I think it's a gritty division. I think that's like

Speaker 3 old-style football, you know, and these old rivalries to be a part of is so sick. I love the AFC North.
I love playing for the Cincinnati side of it as well.

Speaker 3 It's been so fun to get into these fist fights with really talented quarterbacks, really good defenses, and obviously watch Joe spin it.

Speaker 1 What's Joe like day to day?

Speaker 3 He's great. You know, he definitely keeps to his own, but he works hard.
He's an example for other guys on the team.

Speaker 1 He's all super cool looking. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 He's a cool guy, but you know, like the want to and the grit, I think those are the things that go under unnoticed. You know, he doesn't complain when he gets hit.

Speaker 3 He doesn't really do any of that stuff, and he spends it at like an extremely high level.

Speaker 1 Yeah, very high level. I mean, he hits a keyhole if he needed to.

Speaker 1 His first couple years, he wanted to take a hit. Remember that? He's an Ohio guy.
Wake up.

Speaker 1 Wake him up. I like taking a shot, he said.
and everybody i'm not saying it was just us but everybody was like hey we need to get over that

Speaker 1 we need to start waking up without taking hits he was taking massive shots was it the eagles yeah head dislodge from body

Speaker 1 and then he came back yeah yeah and he came back in the game yeah joe's absolutely immensely tough nobody really talks about it when he's playing you guys are much different why do you guys start slow

Speaker 1 oh well you know that's a that's a question for you uh you know we uh tell us because i was talking about joe joe didn't have training camp for multiple years right and in this year he had training So we thought that this was going to be the best year.

Speaker 1 That's how we got there, Trey. I just wanted a little peek inside my mind.
No doubt. That is how we got to where we were saying, why do you guys start so slow?

Speaker 3 Good question. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Starting slow is not something that I think we all have on the drawing board to do every year.

Speaker 3 But it has happened that way. But we do a good job of digging out of a hole.
I mean, we find a way to have winning seasons for Zach. And, you know, that's one of the things in football.

Speaker 3 is facing adversity. I think it's a great teacher in life.

Speaker 3 So to kind of find out what we're made of early and often, it's worked.

Speaker 1 That's so dangerous. You do that from the beginning of the season.
Imagine if they play like from the beginning of the season. They'd probably be playing right now.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I'm just saying.
They have been your imaginary

Speaker 1 chances.

Speaker 1 You guys get into the dance. I don't think anybody wants to see you.

Speaker 1 No, no. That was a conversation.

Speaker 1 I was like, everybody was talking about it. And then obviously

Speaker 1 lurking. No doubt.
Dolphins and the Colts.

Speaker 3 I think, like I said, that's the talent of our offense. I can't say enough about Joe, Jamar, and T.
And, you know, specifically T, you know, because there's a lot going on in his situation as well.

Speaker 3 I mean, for a guy to take that kind of a role where on 31 other teams he's going to be wide receiver one, and then here he's accepting a role in wide receiver two.

Speaker 3 I think that's

Speaker 3 I think it's a very, I think it's a very, well, you know, maybe a similar role.

Speaker 1 Maybe a similar role. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
LSU guys. I'm sorry to get through it.
Yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 LSU guys. Well, you got to give him a shot at the same time.

Speaker 1 Okay, we'll give him 28. We'll give him 28 teams.

Speaker 3 Let him be wide receiver one first, and then let's see where the chips go because he's a monster.

Speaker 1 He'd be one and, yeah. I mean, T is an absolute beast.

Speaker 3 You got to give him a shot at wide receiver one for a season. Let's see how it all plays out, if it does or if it doesn't.

Speaker 1 Oh, Trey's saying, yeah, I'm talking every day. If he does, let's see what this guy does.
Well, in games where Jamar's been out, he's gone off and everything. He's gone crazy.

Speaker 3 So I'm just saying, like, I respect his game. I respect that he's very humble.
I think he's a great guy. Same thing with Jamar, you know, for how he handled adversity as well.
Tremendous.

Speaker 1 That is an interesting perspective that we haven't talked about yet.

Speaker 1 If T is just cool with being the number two guy, just goes about his business, signs a franchise thing, all right, I'll do it, let's go. Whenever, at the wide receiver position.
It's pretty rare.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if it ever happens. Very rare.

Speaker 3 If it doesn't happen and we're all there, that's the ideal. I mean, I love being his teammate.
He's a fantastic guy and works hard.

Speaker 3 I got that jersey for

Speaker 3 the room

Speaker 3 at the end of the career.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he's a special talent.

Speaker 1 End of career, you'll be back in Florida. How's the fishing? You fish, you golf?

Speaker 3 What Florida shit do you do? I'm working on all those things. Those are things that

Speaker 3 we definitely did growing up, but I don't think I'm at any level to be like an expert fisherman or an expert golfer.

Speaker 1 Any hobbies? Both of those are pretty great.

Speaker 3 Bowling's fun, too. Oh, hello.

Speaker 1 Bowling. Oh, hell yeah.
That's pretty good. Love bowling.
Got your own ball? I'm telling you, yeah, I got a whole ball.

Speaker 1 That's the only way.

Speaker 3 If somebody says they love bowling and they don't have their own ball, just walk away.

Speaker 1 So, what's your average? Then do you have like an average what you shoot?

Speaker 3 You know, that's something that we were kind of working on. For a groove there, my dad was over 200 a lot.
I was right in the 175s.

Speaker 1 Okay. You guys are real bowls.
You grew up in an alley?

Speaker 3 We were in and out of them. You know, it was something that my brother and I, my dad, started to pick up towards an off-season here and there.

Speaker 1 How's the billiards?

Speaker 3 Not as good as I should be.

Speaker 1 You smoke cigs in there when you're bothered? No, no.

Speaker 1 No eyes. No, no, no.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 No cigarettes. Can you read the oil patterns? Say what? Can you read the oil patterns on the lanes or no? What do you do? You check the watches?

Speaker 3 You definitely see if it's slick or not, real quick, because if your ball's not spinning, it's a bad lane.

Speaker 1 Which one are we sitting on? Are we going into two triangles? No, three over. No, three triangles.
Yep, and give it a good.

Speaker 3 Who's the goat? Once over.

Speaker 1 Who's that guy that has that corner? Yeah. Two-handed.
We know who we're talking about. Pete Weber.

Speaker 1 Pete Weber. What about the two-handed water from Don Under? Rick Kedmore.
Yeah, it really changed the game. Now, you guys are watching bowling.
This is a completely different discussion.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you walked into this. You're the one that said it, not us.
We don't get to talk about bowling much more. Hey, look, let's go back to fishing.

Speaker 3 I'm reeling this one in.

Speaker 1 Okay, Kevin Bay. Damn.
You don't talk about Kevin Bay.

Speaker 1 KVD. Oi.

Speaker 1 Oi. Oi.
Yeah, he's pulling fish out of any water, brother.

Speaker 3 This is tremendous.

Speaker 1 Thank you. It's a show.
Ty has a question for you. Going back to the slow starts, and you mentioned Zach.
Yes.

Speaker 1 I feel like in this Super Bowl, a lot of people all season were talking about Nick Siriani and saying, hey, this guy's a big dumb dipshit.

Speaker 1 Okay, he's kind of just lucky that he's the coach of the Eagles. It seems like Zach gets a lot of that as well.

Speaker 1 And we saw a little bit of how he is, you know, in team meetings on hard knocks and everything. But what's what's your relationship like with him?

Speaker 1 Because when he went to the Super Bowl, everyone's saying, okay, here's the guy. This is the

Speaker 1 McVay's protege. But then the next couple years, it's like...
We got to get this guy the hell out of here. He's ruining Joe Burrow.

Speaker 1 What's he like in front of the team, and what's your relationship like with him?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I definitely think it's not the same narrative as any of that would be. I think he's tremendous.
He's a leader of elite men as well. He makes a lot of big decisions.

Speaker 3 I've had some good conversations with him. I love him.
I think he's great. He calls a great offense, obviously, when you're talking about the guys having the success that they've had.

Speaker 3 He's putting guys in the right position. Guys are getting open and he's smart enough to be in that McVay system.

Speaker 3 I heard some of the calls on hard knocks.

Speaker 3 I didn't listen too much because we do play against them every day.

Speaker 1 It's kind of a little low blow.

Speaker 3 But yeah, no, they have a great system. I think he's a great coach.

Speaker 3 I wouldn't want to be anywhere else or coached by anybody. else you know and that's obviously the goal for this offseason.

Speaker 1 You go down to that water and hole he always takes the game ball to? What's that bar? Oh, I was just there.

Speaker 1 You were just there? That's a Ted question.

Speaker 1 Did you walk away already? Steelers-Bengals game.

Speaker 3 He's in all those watering holes. Love Ted.

Speaker 1 It's an Irish name. There's an Irish name to it.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, oh, there's Thomas right there. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now as the Marines are celebrating their 250th birthday.

Speaker 1 I believe we have the two Marines that are going to be doing the flyover. Gentlemen, we appreciate the holding.

Speaker 1 Hey, hold up. We got to turn on your your mic.
We got you muted. Oh, these guys hate the troops in a minute.
Wow.

Speaker 1 Hey, first of all, thank you, gentlemen, for your service. We appreciate the help.
Thank you, Legitimate. We appreciate it.
You're really good. Legitimately.
Okay, so you guys are doing the flyovers.

Speaker 1 What are your names?

Speaker 4 I'm Justin Pitcock.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but title, what's it up?

Speaker 4 Major Justin Pitcock. I'm a V-22 Osprey pilot.

Speaker 1 Okay, Major. Okay, Major.

Speaker 5 I'm Lieutenant Colonel Mike Thiesting.

Speaker 1 Okay, so we got a Major and Lieutenant Colonel here. That's right.
Okay, you guys will be doing the flyover on Sunday? We absolutely will be.

Speaker 1 Okay, what are we flying over there?

Speaker 5 We got four MV22s and then there it is right there.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's sweet.

Speaker 4 Sexy machine right there.

Speaker 5 That's actually me flying yesterday. We did a practice run

Speaker 5 and so I'm in the right seat. But we got four of those bad boys and then we're going to have two F-35s.

Speaker 1 Okay, so the timing obviously is the biggest part of this whole thing. Oh, yeah.
How much practice are we doing? How much are we rehearsing? And when do you guys find out you're doing it?

Speaker 4 So we practiced yesterday. We're practicing again on Friday.
You're invited to that.

Speaker 1 If you'd like to come on. Yeah, do you want to go flying on Friday? What? Can you parachute out of it?

Speaker 1 We don't want to have anybody pay.

Speaker 5 We don't carry parachutes. Parachutes are for quitters.
Oh.

Speaker 1 Yes!

Speaker 5 But if you want to go, if you want to go, we'll grip it and rip it and do another practice run.

Speaker 1 The grip it and rip it thing is the thing that I fear, you know, because I will yommit all over that entire place.

Speaker 1 What is the, what time is that all happening? So we're going to do the flyover around 16 to 1800 or so.

Speaker 1 So 4 o'clock to six o'clock for all you non-military folks okay yeah thank you we're doing a math air 12 i think is involved i got to subtract this entire thing how many years of service from you two gentlemen so i've been in for 19 years 18 for me we appreciate you wow

Speaker 1 where are you guys from where are you from major i'm from texas from uh east texas right now nacogoshis not far from where patrick mahomes was born and raised okay so you always been a pilot you got in the marines to be a pilot or how'd this work 9-11 happened my freshman year so i was looking for a way to serve but always been interested in the air and marines afforded that opportunity Okay, so a lot of Marines, air, you know, everybody thinks Air Force, obviously, in the sky, but the Marines, we have a lot of history, right, in the sky.

Speaker 4 Absolutely. Naval aviation goes way back, and the Marine Corps has been part of it from the beginning.

Speaker 1 And how about you, Lieutenant Colonel?

Speaker 5 Yeah, so I grew up in Houston, Texas, originally from Ohio. I'm an Ohio State alum, OH.

Speaker 1 Ohio, buddy. And

Speaker 5 great win. Oh, I loved it.

Speaker 1 Congrats, Matt. Congrats International.
Yes.

Speaker 5 So,

Speaker 5 but yeah, so I grew up outside of Texas, but then lived all over. And right now, I live in Charlotte.

Speaker 1 Okay, we're always gonna be in the sky We're gonna be pilots always wanted to be a pilot from birth Absolutely. Okay, and you when you're pulling the G's you're not puking or any of that shit cuz you

Speaker 1 that depends on you. That's not my problem.
No, okay, so you never I've no never throw

Speaker 1 you didn't puke early when you first started out?

Speaker 1 No, no never because the worst of you flown What's the craziest thing that we have that we don't know about maybe that we've flown yes or that we've done that you've flown and done I guess you could do both well I can tell you some crazy stuff that we've done not on the mic, but...

Speaker 1 On Friday when you come to the middle. Oh, no, Friday.
We'll tell you all types of crazy stuff. I won't be able to hear it.
I'll be fucking up. Have you ever seen a UFO? Yeah, what about UFOs?

Speaker 5 UFOs.

Speaker 1 I've not. Oh, major.
Sorry. What are we talking about? Major!

Speaker 1 You got me, you got me. I cannot confirm nor deny it.
Wow. Have you flown anything that you thought to yourself, wow, this is like a ET-type vehicle here? There's some technology on.

Speaker 5 Well, if you look at that Osprey again, I mean, that thing, so that Osprey can take off like a helicopter and fly like an airplane.

Speaker 5 So those big rotors on the side there, we'll flip them up, and so we can take off and land like a helicopter, and then we'll transition them down to that vertical.

Speaker 1 Let's be honest, some people look at what we look like, and they think, whoa, that must be not from this planet, right? So we get mistaken, maybe. Yeah, because we got some shit.

Speaker 1 Like, this is insane. So it takes off from a standstill.
How fast can it go?

Speaker 5 Oh, so we're going to, for the flyover, we're going to be about 250 knots, which is just about 300 miles an hour. Whoosh.

Speaker 1 Is it different? We're going to be humming. Does it make the flyover different the fact that it's a dome down here?

Speaker 5 So, no, it's a great question. So, we're going to have, we've been working with NFL, the films, and all the video, Fox, and all those guys.

Speaker 5 And on Friday, they're going to be doing a lot of filming, and they'll have stuff on top of the dome.

Speaker 5 And then, during the actual flyover day, there'll be cameras everywhere capturing it, so the folks inside the dome will get to see it.

Speaker 1 Nice. What's the helicopter jet thing that we have that's awesome, normally used for? What would that be used for? Laying scunion.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 We're bringing Marines, we'll drop off Marines and deliver hate and discontent all around the world.

Speaker 1 Yes,

Speaker 1 and destroyed. Don't forget to to love.
Sometimes you got to go through hate. And we appreciate the hell out of you.

Speaker 1 Happy birthday to the Marines. Thank you.
Thank you very much. Hell yeah.
Thank you guys for serving. And when we scream,

Speaker 1 is that massively disrespectful to you? No, it's not. Massively exciting.
Okay, it's massively exciting.

Speaker 1 Keep it going. I should get pretty jacked up right now.
All right.

Speaker 1 We appreciate you, Major, Lieutenant Colonel. Thank you so much.
And can't wait to see you on Sunday. Thanks a lot, guys.
All right.

Speaker 1 Good luck.

Speaker 3 That's why I qualified for that invite, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yes, you did.

Speaker 1 I checked my spot, actually.

Speaker 1 Funny enough to need you to go. Yeah, we need you to film it, too, so we could say, you know, that was part of it.

Speaker 1 It is an honor to get asked. And I've been very fortunate to do a lot of work with the military.

Speaker 1 Very thankful for the military and the people that I've met whenever to Japan on USO tour, been to a bunch of bases. It is.
They're a great group of people, obviously. Heroes walking amongst us.

Speaker 1 And it's always an honor to be asked, you know, and anytime you get a challenge coin, obviously it's something that is incredibly humbling i'll say in the moment i don't think you're gonna see me on one of those planes i don't think you're gonna see me on that thing have you been in one before why so blue angels they asked me to do it uh i watched a couple videos people doing it and i'm like yep that's who i am i'm not gonna do that i'm not gonna puke all over this thing uh incredible honor i went watch a show okay he's a great job

Speaker 1 that was an honor to watch i can't believe we have that much control of

Speaker 1 fighter jets right yeah i can't believe they're just flying oh my god 400 miles an hour just like that And then just, yeah, we're all in a turn left. And that happens in India every single year.

Speaker 1 And since we're so close to the airport, their practices fly over the Thunderdome. And we're seeing them at like 400 feet above the sky and then straight up in the air.

Speaker 1 And it's like, I'm not built for that. Deepa.
My body's not built for that.

Speaker 1 Tom Cruising that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what I am at 1G. Going supersonic.
Yeah, I can't get into it. But shout out to them.
That's going to be an awesome thing. Pal did a documentary on it.
It was awesome.

Speaker 1 But it felt disrespectful to ask them, do you think it's possible to fly one of those, not get rocked up?

Speaker 1 I I don't think that would have been disrespectful. No chance.
Do you think they're rocked up the whole flight? Every time.

Speaker 1 When we get into rocked 30,000 hours in that flight, that's all natural Viagra, brother.

Speaker 1 You don't need no blue pill, pal. I feed rice.
All right, you don't need it. Congrats to you, Trey, by the way.

Speaker 1 Thanks. You're going to enjoy that, brother.

Speaker 1 You're going to have a good time on that. Let's talk about Joe Tooney, especially with Trey Hendrickson here.
He's guard.

Speaker 1 Obviously, the story has been told numerous times on this program and throughout all of sports because it's a big deal. This guy's like a Hall of Fame guard.
They've had to cycle through tackles.

Speaker 1 He bounces out to tackle for the playoffs,

Speaker 1 has done well. They've won games.
Now, AQ Shipley, offensive lineman's case, they're kind of protecting him. They're kind of protecting him a little bit.
All RPOs, not putting him out on an island.

Speaker 1 That's because Andy Reid's a good coach, and everybody needs to do that. But what he's saying is the guy's body type is not built to be a tackle.
That's just a matter of fact.

Speaker 1 Whenever you're looking at a tackle, that you're going to be taking on. What are you studying? What are you thinking about? And who do you hate the most?

Speaker 1 What style of tackle do you you hate the most?

Speaker 3 Well, ironically, I think it's all going to kind of come together. So I actually played him at tackle.
Orlando went down with a calf. I think it was 2021.
And

Speaker 3 we went a full game that way, me and Thuni. He was great.
He played well at tackle. I do think he got a little bit of that help a little bit there.
But

Speaker 3 he's a heck of a talent, heck of a talent. But Orlando Brown, now that we got him in Cincinnati, he was...

Speaker 3 There's just not a lot of ways to attack a guy like that. I mean he's got long arms, quick feet, incredibly talented.

Speaker 3 You know, I can talk about my teammates for a while, but when I went up against him, you know, we would not only go at it physically, but we were drawn too.

Speaker 1 How about like a Deion Dawkins? Whenever he does that, I'm smarter than you move? Yeah,

Speaker 3 Deion's a problem too. He knows how to play the game within the game as well.
You know, he's got a quick getoff off the line. He definitely anticipates things.

Speaker 3 things and his set is very unique as well.

Speaker 1 He drops with like a lot of vertical depth.

Speaker 3 It poses a couple challenges if you're trying to get a guy like Josh Allen as well, because he's very mobile, so you don't want to go inside too quickly, because then you're leaving your whole defense pretty exposed.

Speaker 1 What are you looking at, ball or knee?

Speaker 3 I think every good rusher should have a triangle where it's, you know, ball is key. And then the man is obviously anticipating the ball.

Speaker 3 And then the quarterback who's calling for the ball is going to give you a tell or two. But some of the vets are flashing hands and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 So it's like, wow, well, he didn't jump. He didn't jump.
He didn't jump. I didn't jump.
Wow. Okay, good.
That was incredible.

Speaker 1 I think a part of me left.

Speaker 1 Here both.

Speaker 1 Could you imagine if you jumped hot? I would have hoped.

Speaker 1 Got him.

Speaker 3 Oh, that's great.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's great. That's great.

Speaker 1 I'm on your puppet, dude.

Speaker 1 I'm not jumping offside just because you yelled in my face. But that would be impossible.
I don't know how you don't, especially with some of these cadences. I've had a couple.

Speaker 3 Cam Newton had a great,

Speaker 3 you know, he'd get after it. Drew Brees as well and practice, two-minute drills.
I gave Dennis Allen a couple gray hairs.

Speaker 3 You know, so it was a grind.

Speaker 1 You ever play against Romo? Romo's hard count. What is it?

Speaker 3 I think that might have been one of the special teams' years.

Speaker 1 Okay, I was like, you know, just like a

Speaker 1 better. Yours was definitely better.
Well, I wasn't Romo.

Speaker 1 I used to watch Tony Romo. That was Romo.
Oh, I mean, just not making me jump off sides.

Speaker 1 I mean, you got to give a real sound.

Speaker 1 Go ahead. Give

Speaker 1 that Tony Romo. That was Tony Romo.
I don't really have one of my own. Yeah, I did my own.
He did Tony Romo.

Speaker 3 You just

Speaker 3 my cadence.

Speaker 1 So yours is better than Romo. So good to know.
Yeah, good to know. Romo's

Speaker 1 impersonation of Tony Romo. I actually got some people on field balls.

Speaker 1 Nobody's going to talk about it. No big deal.

Speaker 3 Is that the hand?

Speaker 1 This is the. No, I think it's because they made rules you weren't allowed to move your hand towards the line of scrimmage.
I wasn't allowed to move my head at all.

Speaker 1 So it had to be like, it had to be a huh. It had to be.
It had to be that number there. Because the guy on the edge is up on a razor's edge.
Air trigger. Yeah, if you're gone.

Speaker 1 If you can get a little bit, it's like you can steal first down. I got a couple of them.
It's a big deal. Now, also, I got called for a couple, and Vinny had to kick a further kick.

Speaker 1 So he's about done with that shit. We'll say that.
Okay. No made it.
Yeah, yeah, no big deal. AJ has a question for you, Trey, as we wrap up hour two here from Radio Roll.

Speaker 1 When you talk about pass rushers,

Speaker 1 I know a lot of guys have like separate pass rush specialists that they work with. Do you work with anybody like that?

Speaker 1 I know there's guys that sometimes will come into a camp or maybe in the offseason where you work on a guy like a hand to do. We sell these martial arts people.

Speaker 1 Do you do anything like that in the offseason?

Speaker 3 Not really for me, but I'm never one to say that the stuff doesn't work.

Speaker 3 But for me, I like to do what my coach is teaching me.

Speaker 3 I think that's something that a lot of players get lost in. You can learn a lot of things, and if your coach isn't coaching it, I don't think that helps too much for the defense or the scheme.

Speaker 3 So I tend to kind of shy away from that.

Speaker 3 I'm trying to get faster and stronger and mentally sharper every offseason. And those are the things I keep stacking bricks and then we let the chips fall where they will.

Speaker 1 Does everything come from

Speaker 1 the threat of power? Like speed to power? Like this dude needs to know that I can bull rush him and I can do everything else off of that.

Speaker 1 And I think you're so good with your hands, but your power, like you just take dudes right into the quarterback and then

Speaker 1 your hand work is impressive getting off and getting to them.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I think a lot of people just see that rush, right? Like they don't see the setup that comes, you know, within chess, we're playing.

Speaker 3 You're kind of setting that up with power rushes and they really, they're feeling power. You know, this is like driving them back as you feel.

Speaker 1 Power, feel power absolutely

Speaker 3 but uh but yeah like that's that's kind of like the game within the game you know you get you get tackles that'll do that too they'll throw a like soft set on the outside and you make you think in different different rush as well so it's all kind of it goes that way and obviously playing with the lead helps with joe burrow so you know that's that always makes things easier is it fair for me to say like it looks like this guy's trying on this play but not this other play or is that a potential setup play on the one where he's not trying and maybe i'm misjudging go ahead Yeah, like when Patrick Hicard's in the game, do you maybe, you know, kind of take it easy?

Speaker 1 A little business decision.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I think I'm just shocked that he's still a fullback. You know, at some point they got to say he's like a T-tackle.

Speaker 3 Because he's 320 pounds and every bit of it. And he's a stud.

Speaker 3 I met his family at the Pro Bowl a couple times. He's a good dude.

Speaker 3 Heck of a competitor as well. So nothing but good things to say about him.

Speaker 1 You got a locker there at the Pro Bowl hunter just every year I'm coming. You tried the Pro Bowl or? How was? Yeah.
What did the Pro Bowl games like this year?

Speaker 3 Oh, it was fun. You know, I can't believe that guys like, you know, all over the place come together and won.

Speaker 3 It's a really special environment. You know, elite players all over the country.
I think so.

Speaker 1 I felt like there was more effort this year, too. Oh, yeah.
Felt like there was a little more effort.

Speaker 3 And they make it so fun, too. You know, like the Pro Bowl games, they're interacting.
You know, it's all for the kids as well.

Speaker 3 You know, it's like it's inspiring kids to flag football and stuff like that and, you know, taking miles off the car before it starts.

Speaker 1 To Debach's point,

Speaker 1 you're a Florida boy, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Have a lot of family there, friends watching at Pro Bowl. They filled that stadium up.
Oh, yeah. Did you see that? Yeah.

Speaker 3 We won a state championship in that Popka High School 2012 in that stadium. It's now Camping World.
It was like, it was renamed, I think.

Speaker 1 That was a fun environment.

Speaker 1 I thank you for joining us for this hour. To wrap up.
our day here on ESPN as we continue on ESPN Plus, Disney Plus, YouTube, and TikTok Live.

Speaker 1 There's some local chefs, it appears. This was not set up.
This was not prepared. This was just something that just literally showed up.
Shout out to Radio Row having this. What do we got here, boss?

Speaker 1 What do we got here, Chef? We got a 12-hour smoke billion in short sandwich.

Speaker 1 A little crystal hot sauce, vinaigrette on top.

Speaker 1 Jimmy Gator. Appreciate you guys.
Where's this from? Where's this from? It's from Sodexo Live here in the building. Sodexo Live.
We appreciate the hell out of you guys.

Speaker 1 Have a great Super Bowl week. Thank you, Chef.
Thank you, Chef.

Speaker 1 That's a lot of meat, Dan Dre Hendrix.

Speaker 1 that's a lot of meat we'll enjoy all of that and uh the rest of this particular program live from radio row be a friend tell a friend something nice it might change their life we're in this thing together never forget it we'll see you tomorrow on espn we continue on the internet goodbye they would nailed it they would ailed it we're still live train still live training we're still live training don't say anything easy yep still live on the youtube unless you want to say you want to go to new england or you maybe want to come on over to indianapolis indiana

Speaker 3 I think I like where I'm at in Cincinnati, but let's see. There's a lot of things that have to happen, but all of that's out of my control.
Got money for you?

Speaker 1 That's a big piece of beef.

Speaker 1 That's a sandwich. And I don't know how you eat the sandwich with the bone in it.

Speaker 1 But the bone, that's going to be a tough eat, I think. But I do appreciate the fact that they're like, hey, Lisa.
We don't want to take off bone for you because that gets away the flavor.

Speaker 1 I don't know if I'm beating that, but it looks good. Yeah,

Speaker 1 some of that beef.

Speaker 1 You don't need to eat the bread. New Orleans food is like something they're known for, right? The food down here, the chefs down here.
Yep. Everything like that.

Speaker 1 What's your favorite food? Are you a super

Speaker 1 diet?

Speaker 3 Super foodie. No,

Speaker 3 I've been blessed to have a chef. Obviously, she cooks for my wife and I.

Speaker 1 Jesus Christ, brother chef's both nice.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Definitely are blessing the food for sure.

Speaker 1 What are we eating?

Speaker 3 You know, it changes up week to week. You know, like, I'm a big chicken fajitas guy, though.
I think that's a staple in the family. So,

Speaker 3 you know, that's definitely the cheese.

Speaker 1 Cheese cheese coming out sizzling on the plate.

Speaker 1 Any good pieces?

Speaker 1 Solid? Any gator? Top-notch. Yeah, you like gator down here? You ever eat gator? I have gator.
You ever eat gator boy? I have had gator, and it's all right. What do we do?

Speaker 1 Were you dead on a sandwich with the gator?

Speaker 1 Are you down on

Speaker 1 the bars of gator? Gator on the star. That's the cold boy.
Gator on stairs.

Speaker 1 We got gator on steel. One of my favorites.
It's been a while since I've been in New Orleans. You ever hunt in Gaitu? He feels like I'm back now.
He feels like he's home. You ever go hunting in Gato?

Speaker 1 You know, occasionally. Yeah, it happens.

Speaker 1 Have you ever gone hunting?

Speaker 3 I've been invited, for sure.

Speaker 1 So I've gone hogging and frogging. I've never gone gator hunting, though.
But I've done like a Louisiana thing. No gator.

Speaker 3 You watch the swamp, you know, the swamp people.

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 3 It's a gator on like a string, yeah?

Speaker 1 No, not much of a

Speaker 1 writing a drink on his back. What?

Speaker 1 Gator.

Speaker 1 Guider swim when he's like, no, it's like hunting is like you're tracking them down and stuff.

Speaker 3 I don't hunt either.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 You just said the guy.

Speaker 1 I killed Gator.

Speaker 3 It's like a bang stick, right?

Speaker 1 No, you don't know about them gators.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. I don't know about these guys.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you lure them in.

Speaker 1 You hit him in the head with a bat. Oh, that's right.
I forgot. It's like sharks.
You lure them in. Well, the guy.

Speaker 1 Them gators pop up and they shoot them right in between the eyes. Yeah, they got you because they got an arm roll.
Exactly. That's Gator hunting.

Speaker 3 I'm now educated.

Speaker 1 It's a good gator kill. I'm happy we could bring something to you.
I love eating that gator. I love eating gator.
Gator boots, gator belts,

Speaker 1 gator wallets.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 We appreciate you stopping by, Trey. Appreciate it.
We really got better today. Yeah, so did I.
We hope you feel that way. I did.

Speaker 1 We hope that you exit this stage a better you than whenever you came on here. And you did great.
You didn't suck. Yeah.
Yeah. Are you selling something? Approval.
No. You're selling approval?

Speaker 3 Let's see the shots. Like, come on.
You talked about the.

Speaker 1 You want to shoot? Oh, yeah. Okay.
Oh, yeah. Oh, god, Trey.

Speaker 3 Now, I heard they're like foam, though.

Speaker 1 Those beads are kind of messy. Those beads on the rim are making it a little bit more difficult.
I recommend going with the bank here.

Speaker 3 So, how many shots before? Because, like, Fred was talking about the discretion, too.

Speaker 1 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 1 How many? Don't give away the gimmick, brother. Every time's the first time.
All right, every time's the first time. Yeah, yeah, because

Speaker 1 it's quality. It's a bad ball.
No, no, no. That was a good one.
It's well done. Not great.
Hold on, Trey.

Speaker 1 I said it's well done. Yeah, but you're looking at us as if we bought these.
Yeah, okay, we did it. Hold on.

Speaker 1 It's a good defense.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, Trey Hendrickson, pass rusher for the Cincinnati Bengals, a man who wears no gloves on a football field in 2025 when technology has got to a point where they make gloves that don't even feel like gloves anymore.

Speaker 1 He says, I don't want to hear it. I don't want to be tracked.

Speaker 1 Don't want to be trapped. I want these bear mitts to be ripping jerseys and tackling quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 He's here with no business.

Speaker 1 Tomorrow you will be here for business, which is the company of

Speaker 1 Old Spice. Nice.

Speaker 1 Oh, nice. I mean, solid quality company.
That was a good

Speaker 1 company. That was a red part, yeah.
Yeah, Dove Mancare, a little bit, whole body Dio. You said,

Speaker 1 I wish we had some right now. I know.
So good. I got some in my backpack.
Let's make sure we have those out here for the future. No doubt.
It's an old bottle I've had forever because it lasts so long.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it never ends.

Speaker 1 Old Spice. Yep, Old Spice.

Speaker 1 We don't know about their bottle. We don't know their bottle.
That's tomorrow, Trey. So we don't know their bottle.
Got it.

Speaker 1 We know our bottle, the dove men care whole body do two different smells one great outcome like the clash of titans you don't smell like shit anymore shout out to dovemen care whole body do and also shout out to old spice paying our guy here

Speaker 1 representing our guy getting behind our guy

Speaker 1 thank you this guy just wants to provide for his family by tackling quarterbacks

Speaker 1 wants it to be fair well how about winning

Speaker 1 50 people $500 traying. Wow.
You come down here to New Orleans, sit on a set that was put together that's way too nice than what we deserve. Put one basketball that's kind of light and a little

Speaker 1 into a basketball hoop right over here, and 50 people will win $500. Be an athlete, Trey.
Be an athlete, Trey, for the people.

Speaker 1 I thought that was it.

Speaker 1 Bunched off it.

Speaker 1 You Gator armed it. Oh, that is a good thing.
You did kind of gator on it. That was a little bit of a gator.
Yeah, a little bit of a gator.

Speaker 3 All right, so how many?

Speaker 1 Two? More? There's a first one.

Speaker 3 All right, the next one's the first one. This is the first one.
The next one's the first one. This is the first one.

Speaker 1 Hey, you get the ball in your hand, and you just like. I'm coachable.
Great to be here. You know, like that.

Speaker 3 I'm coachable.

Speaker 1 And I'm even holding this, so it looks like maybe it was

Speaker 1 the first shot.

Speaker 1 You know, because I'm holding the backup ball right here. You have no idea.
These people are certainly going to remember that you missed one pretty short there. 1.1.
Pretty short.

Speaker 1 And to be clear, I don't know if you got to a point where it would even get into her.

Speaker 1 Especially with the jingle bells beads across the top, which what did our rim do to get those?

Speaker 1 You know what I'm talking about? Jesus Christ ain't talking about it. Uh-oh.

Speaker 1 That was gross. Trey Hendrickson, for the good of

Speaker 1 70.

Speaker 1 First shot.

Speaker 1 Here we go. You don't have to say it.
First shot.

Speaker 1 You don't have to say it, Trey. 75 people, 500.
What?

Speaker 1 All you got to do is put that basketball with a busted ring finger into that hoop right over there, and 75 people win $500 because thank God for Trey Hendrickson. Thank God for Trey.

Speaker 1 Thank God for Trey Hendrickson.

Speaker 1 Too many straight shots.

Speaker 3 Thanks open.

Speaker 1 That was unbelievable.

Speaker 1 Thanks open.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. 75 people, $500.
All you got to do is repost this post, say something nice to somebody, and then reply, and put the easiest way to pay you.

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Speaker 1 Football! Hey, it's the greatest. We can't thank you all enough for allowing us to do this for a living.

Speaker 1 We are live down here in New Orleans and Wednesday's the day where everybody really starts filing in.

Speaker 1 You know, in years past, we maybe came down on like a Monday night and did Tuesday here in Radio Row and it was an echo within the convention center as they were setting things up and there was beeping because there was buildings being pieced together here in Radio Row.

Speaker 1 But Wednesday all the way through the weekend should be absolutely electrifying in here.

Speaker 1 People from every town in the country, maybe even every single country in the world are here to chit-chat about Super Bowl 59 on Sunday. Now, I'm not alone.
Obviously, I'm with the boys.

Speaker 1 What a time to celebrate football and life. The talks and tables here at Boston Connor at Ty Schmidt.
Ty, how you feeling? Feeling great. That beef was delicious.

Speaker 1 Absolutely delicious. A little fatty, a little bit of gristle on there, but hey, you need that.

Speaker 1 Late in the season, you know, you need something to kind of toughen you up, let you know what we're here for, what we're playing for. Yeah, you talked about the flavor.

Speaker 1 Seems like there's a lot of seasons out there. It's valued out there.
Yeah, exactly. That's right.
Cajun flavoring, which I love. Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 We're going to be eating good in the next couple nights. Oh, yeah.
You know, like a basketball player down here, maybe. Whoa.
Whoa, not anymore. No, he's shredded.
He's absolutely shredded.

Speaker 1 He's strapping. Job eating that beef, maybe some of that gator.
The Pelicans have traded a player and some assets away from the Pelicans to the Oklahoma City Thunder for nothing in return.

Speaker 1 So I don't know what that means for the New Orleans Pelicans, but we do know it's going to be a great week down here. One half of the hammer.
Don. Cowboys A.P.
Tone is here. Nine-year NFL vet.

Speaker 1 You look super cool, especially with the Duke in your hand.

Speaker 1 Darius J. Balls is here.
AJ Hawk is here. You look great, AJ.
What you learned from the guest today, Trey Hendrickson?

Speaker 1 Seems like a really, really good dude, and he's obviously an unbelievable player, but is he going to be back in Cincinnati? Well, I think he's got one year left on his contract, I think. So he does.

Speaker 1 He's going to the final year of his contract. So this is when the

Speaker 1 rubber meets the road. That's right.
This is where we try to figure out if we're going to do this or we're not going to do this. Cincinnati Bengals have been in this situation a lot.

Speaker 1 Cincinnati Bengals in their eyes say last year contract means you got two more franchise tax on the other areas.

Speaker 1 We got three years left or what the Cincinnati Bengals have said in the past and done in the past, but maybe they operate a little bit differently now because they have so many damn megastars and they have a chance to go to the Super Bowl every single year.

Speaker 1 Trey Hendrickson is the NFL sack king. He led the NFL in sacks.
Everybody talks about Miles Garrett. Everybody talks about TJ White.

Speaker 1 Everybody talks about the Bosas, Max Crosby, you name it. The guy who had the most sacks this year, Trey Hendrickson.

Speaker 1 Guy who wears no gloves and he's going in the final year of his contract in Cincinnati with a lot of people that are eager to get paid. I'm excited to see how it works out.

Speaker 1 And he was saying that television shows about Gary Hunt is fake. What?

Speaker 1 That's what he said right here. He never straightened that.
He didn't mean it like that. He did.
He was saying, this ain't real. He didn't mean it like that.
He's Gary Hunter.

Speaker 1 What would he know? Yeah. Florida boy down here in New Orleans.
I think there is a chance he knows a lot, actually.

Speaker 1 If you tell a Gator Hunter it's fake, oh,

Speaker 1 you're going to turn into a Gator.

Speaker 1 They're going to hunt you. That's right.
Well said. Yep.

Speaker 1 Thank you for that. Couldn't have said it better myself.
That's just what I've heard. You've been talking to the locals? Yeah.
You've been talking to the locals.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Yeah, I was at a casino last night. Yeah.
And they're paying you. Talked all about the Gato.
And they're paying you in those casinos. You're not paying them.

Speaker 1 Well, last night. Hopefully, we can keep it rolling tonight.
If we have that zany dealer again. If you see Melissa at the Caesars,

Speaker 1 you fucking high tail the other way. Yeah.
Quick. Why? What happened? She's the worst.

Speaker 1 Great lady. Great lady.
By Adam Joe.

Speaker 1 Tell the bus. Tell the bus thing because that's all you need to say.
Too much possession. So obviously, you know, Blackjack, you're playing against the dealer.

Speaker 1 it's the team and you know it gets to her and she goes over she busts but she'll go 21 even though she has 26.

Speaker 1 I would lose that and she's she's mismathing allegedly I was not there yeah but this sounds like this is this is fireable offenses for in my eyes never experienced it at any blackjack table I've ever been on same feel like I played a lot of blackjack in a lot of different places never heard of a dealer doing wrong math to you same hey at 14 when you actually have 17 in front of you

Speaker 1 like that's why that's their job that's the that's hey let's make sure these things get shuffled. Let's make sure we're

Speaker 1 doing this right. And let's make sure we got the math right.
That's the biggest part of the entire thing. I like that her gimmick is kind of like, nah, I don't do it, actually.
You got to do the math.

Speaker 1 Do you want a card or not? I don't know. What is it?

Speaker 1 You tell me. Ty had 21, said 12.
Yeah, because I took like four aces out there. I was like, hey, listen, Melissa, I've had 12 Jack and Cokes, all right?

Speaker 1 I'm not, you know, just tell me how many fucking I have here. Ty, I hate it.
She's like, no, no, I'm just kidding. Yeah, it's like, yeah, well, there's a lot of fucking cards out there, okay?

Speaker 1 So exactly. She was bullying you a little bit? No, no.
Yeah, Melissa was questioning your math. And I'll not have your phone out.
And I'll not have calculator, so quick math, you got to do it.

Speaker 1 No, and I just said after that, hey, Melissa, enough of this bullshit. Just fucking throw me the cards, okay? This isn't, you know, we're not at the Marat here in downtown Indianapolis.

Speaker 1 This isn't your comedy special, okay? What's she called the Marat? You know, I understand this is Caesars. It's ain't Caesar's Palace.
Shut up and deal the cards. Hey, and tell me what number I am.

Speaker 1 And she was training. She wasn't even, you know, we had our guy behind her who was kind of just like, what is she doing? Like, are you.
She thought she was right or no.

Speaker 1 She knew she was wrong when she was telling you these numbers. Yeah, oh, yeah.
Yeah. That's our gimmick.
Oh, that's awesome. That is just joking.
Yeah, no, no, it ain't awesome.

Speaker 1 I don't want to play at her table. That's what I mean.
But I like that that's the gimmick she's gone with. What if I'm a blackjack dealer who tells him the wrong math? That's awesome.

Speaker 1 Think about deciding that. You're a real heel.
Yeah. That's a real heel.
She was. She's true heel out there.
That's bullshit. You even, you lost, you won.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Maybe you should have been a little nicer to Melissa Gimmick. No, no, I didn't lose that much.
And actually, you know what, now that I said that, I'm coming back for scalps tonight. Okay.

Speaker 1 Be on the lookout, Melissa.

Speaker 1 I want you, Bub.

Speaker 1 AQ.

Speaker 1 How we doing?

Speaker 1 To be honest, I'm not 100% sure what part of the Super Bowl we haven't talked about 100 times. Yeah, exactly.
I have a question for AQ, actually.

Speaker 1 How has, since Toonie's been kicked out, how has his replacement been? Because he's going up against Jalen Carter this week. Yeah, I'm nervous.
Like, I'm nervous for him.

Speaker 1 I mean, honestly, again, they do such a good job protecting the entire group. It's always running the football.
It's always RPOs. It's always play action.

Speaker 1 Very few and far between are you ever just dropped back pass. And if they feel like that's going to be an issue, you watch.
They will find a way to chip Jalen Carter if need be.

Speaker 1 They can RPO, send a tight end here, and chip on the tackle. So, like, there's so many different ways that they can help guys on that group, and they're all interchangeable.

Speaker 1 It's really good with them. How come every coach doesn't do that or play caller do that? Why is Andy Reed the one who says, you know what, we got a little bit of an issue with our offensive line.

Speaker 1 Let's try to protect him a little bit. Maybe we try to win.
Why is he able to do that and others aren't seeing it?

Speaker 1 Listen, I mean, they want to get as many, most coordinators want to get as many guys out on a route, and the more times you keep people in to chip and help, now it's two-man routes.

Speaker 1 So your two guys better win, right? That was Bruce Arian's like famous quote. Like every time we'd ask for like a chip, like, hey, we got Aaron Donald this week.
We'll get a fucking chip.

Speaker 1 He'd He'd say, I tried to chip, who was the, who was the freak? They called him the freak down in Tennessee, though,

Speaker 1 Javon Kurt. He's like, when I was in Pittsburgh, we chipped him.
We kept this guy in, we kept this guy in, and Javon Kirstill had five sacks. Figure it the fuck out.
Win your matchup.

Speaker 1 We're getting five guys out.

Speaker 1 Hey, he's going to get to the quarterback at some point no matter what we do. Yeah.
So we're going to get our guys out. He's at least have an opportunity to do some shit.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's talk about a team that you know well. Well, a team that you did know well.
You were a player, a coach, and a Super Bowl champion for them, although you weren't there that long.

Speaker 1 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Mike Greenberg, not Giddups ESPN's Mike Greenberg. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Mike Greenberg, salary cap guru, salary cap gymnastics

Speaker 1 expert, absolute dog in piecing together rosters and handling it all. He is not going to be the Jacksonville Jaguars GM.
He has pulled his name from contention for that particular gig.

Speaker 1 Your thoughts on this? Is this Tampa Bay Liam Cohen stuff still happening here? Or is this Greenberg not thinking he's getting a gig? What are your thoughts on this? It'll be taken that way.

Speaker 1 But listen, that's the way they've operated all the the time. They feel like if they have good people.
I know you guys mentioned it last week where you thought maybe

Speaker 1 they were doing that to shun Liam Cohen by blocking coaches from taking those jobs.

Speaker 1 Listen, the way they're looking at it, at least from the offensive line coach stuff that they did last week, is they went from bottom five in the league for the last however many years to all of a sudden being top five in the league.

Speaker 1 They're not letting those coaches just walk. In this case...
You're talking about Tampa? Yeah, Tampa.

Speaker 1 They blocked Carberry, the O-line coach, and I think the assistant guy, they wouldn't let any of those guys. When it comes to him,

Speaker 1 of

Speaker 1 a little bit of old fuck you, Liam. Really? I don't know.
Who knows? Whoa. Who knows?

Speaker 1 Maybe it's only 32 of those jobs. Yeah, and Mike Greenberg, I guess, his name was up for a couple of the last couple GM cycles.

Speaker 1 So, like, what he did in Tampa with Tom and everything that happened afterwards, Mike Evans, deal, relationship, everything that he's done. It's been in the spotlight.

Speaker 1 I assume he just thinks maybe he'll get a job in the future where he doesn't care. I wonder how he actually thinks there.
And what's Jacksonville going to look like? What are they going to look like?

Speaker 1 What is Jacksonville going to look like? Good question. Got a yacht out here.
Yeah. Really nice yacht.
That looks cool. We talked about this yacht before because I watched a documentary.

Speaker 1 He's got a yoga

Speaker 1 gym

Speaker 1 inside of the. We can go see that.
Yeah, it's in the back. He goes down and does yoga.
You got a little cold tub barrier there. You can walk right on there to three pools.
I don't know about that.

Speaker 1 Three pools.

Speaker 1 Got to have more pools than your stadium has on a yacht. I understand that.

Speaker 1 Only two pools in the stadium down there in Duvaux.

Speaker 3 Is Tony Khan still involved?

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 Chief football strategist? Yeah, yeah. I assume he's still CFSing.
Then they'll still suck. They just hired Tony Bacelli for a role down there, too.
He's

Speaker 1 like VP. VP.
Yeah. Who was that up in Detroit? Who was that up in Detroit? Chris Spielman? Yeah.
Style Roller. Spielman is a big part of that.
That type of role.

Speaker 1 So Jacksonville still needs a general manager. Yes.
New Orleans needs a head coach. Yes.

Speaker 1 That's where we're at in the top cycle. Correct.
Yep. New Orleans has done that, right? Kelly Moe.
Kelly Mo. Kelly Moe.

Speaker 1 The interesting thing about that is it'll be his first time being a a head coach.

Speaker 1 And he's going into a place where a lot of people think they're going to have to suck for a while because of the setup contractually. Is he going to get any grace, you think?

Speaker 1 I mean, you would assume so, but I mean, we do a lot of assuming. You assume he comes in his first opportunity.
What are they going to do with Derek Carr, you know, in the foreseeable future?

Speaker 1 And obviously, we know the salary cap hell that they're in, so you would assume they would give him at least a two, three, four-year grace period, but who knows?

Speaker 1 They'll give him grace if it looks a certain way, right? Like

Speaker 1 if they're not getting beat by 20%. Who's quarterback, Carr? Feels like it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but there was a report that came out that said, you know, the Saints really, really like Spencer Rattler, so they're kind of already setting him up.

Speaker 1 Like, hey, you better fucking win with this guy. Oh, who is the model? Jake Haner.
Jake Haner. He could sling it.
Man, good quarterback right now. He's a dog.
Spencer was on my flight down.

Speaker 1 I got a lot of respect for Spencer. He was on a southwest flight in a middle seat, basically on the flight.
Spencer Rattler? Yeah. So he got on last.
Because Southwest, you pick your

Speaker 1 last minute.

Speaker 1 Just blending in. I just need to get down there.
I just need to get down. I've seen a lot lot of people saying if they do suck, it will be the return of the Manning to New Orleans.

Speaker 1 And granted, who knows what that is. Arch.
Arch following in his grandfather's

Speaker 1 footsteps. Did you see the video of him windmill Duncan? Yeah, yeah.
Arch?

Speaker 1 Freaking nature. Two feet, two.
We didn't get like a big run-up. This was like just a casual jump straight up in the air.

Speaker 1 He was at that basketball game two weeks ago, remember?

Speaker 1 He did like a little bit. Yeah, I saw him do the fake jump shot.

Speaker 1 From that, I saw a lot of people. Well, Red Bull gave you wings.
He's definitely not a hooper. What, from the fake jump shot? Yeah, Yeah,

Speaker 1 elbow tight. What do you jump? You can tell a lot of guys.
What it looks like. What did it look like? I missed the fake jump shot.
Look, it looked bad.

Speaker 1 It looked as bad as right there running the first base. Whoa.

Speaker 1 That can't be true.

Speaker 1 That can't be true. That was the worst video ever.
Yeah, how do we feel about that over there in Ohio? A lot of interviews, a lot of base running. How do we feel about the post? Neil Bryan, possibly.

Speaker 1 Neil Brown.

Speaker 1 You lost both coordinators. How do you, what do you, what do you? So I did see a report.
Is Neil Brown?

Speaker 1 Oh, he was ill. He wasn't brought in for an interview, was he? No, it's done deal.
Yeah. I I mean, I'm still pushing for Ryan Hartline.
Put him in. Okay,

Speaker 1 Brian's brother? Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's Ryan and Brian. Well, he does have a brother, not Ryan.
Maybe his brother's name is Ryan, actually. Okay, so now we just offended him.
He figured all of them out.

Speaker 1 That we definitely have met him. They were talking about him.
He can't offend him. No, Brian Hartline, dog.
He was up for a couple of head coaches' jobs. He's allegedly the recruiter.

Speaker 1 He's the one that everybody enjoys being in the wide receiver developer. Yes,

Speaker 1 coaches his ass off.

Speaker 1 That offense is going to be good. Who's going to be be your quarterback? It'll be a battle coming through the spring and summer.

Speaker 1 Julian Sane, a lot of people are saying, but there's honestly two, three guys in the mix. Who are you in the same? They lost to our line coach, too.
One of the Cardinals. Yeah, Fry.

Speaker 1 How do you feel about plucking Jim Knowles from the Ohio State Buckeyes? Oh, yeah, you guys got him. Oh, yes.
Oh, yeah. We're all in.
Oh, that was you moving chips in. Yeah, you see what I did there?

Speaker 1 Middle of Taylor was here that he kind of went. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but it was like metaphorically.
Yeah, yeah. You were pushing the chips out.
All in. Is that Kraft? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we talked to him. You know that.
That's Pat Crafty. He's ready.

Speaker 1 This guy's the guy. Dude, this is what you would want.
Drew Allard's the guy, too. We saw him on the sidelines of the Notre Dame Penn State game.
His shoulders are

Speaker 1 this wide. Big 10 linebacker.
That's right. Now he's running the ship up at Penn State, shaking hands, getting massive amounts of money.
Yeah. Penn State, you guys feel like you're back, huh?

Speaker 1 Because everybody talked about Ohio State going on and they got to win it all. You guys now going all in.
You got to win it all. That was a huge thing, Keith.
Is that going to happen? Yeah,

Speaker 1 Drew Allard is winning by Franklin. Oh, yeah.
Coach Franklin's got to win. Win it all or bust.
Yeah, he's ready to be a guy. Simply went all in.
Ohio State went all in. They won.
They won.

Speaker 1 Here we go. It certainly seems like if they don't win it all, there's one guy to blame, right? Who's that? Drew Aller.

Speaker 1 Jimbo?

Speaker 1 There's going to be one guy to blame. He's got to bust.

Speaker 1 We've given it all together. We've given them all to it.
We've given them the coaches. We've given them the players.
We've went all in. You've got to win now.

Speaker 1 How do you feel about your say in the Penn State ranks at this point of being an alumni? You were the guest, you were the celebrity captain. Did the coin toss.
Wine out for the coin toss.

Speaker 1 That was cool. Old king of mammals.
Are you the ring of owner? I don't have one. Got it.
Hall of Fame? They don't have one. What the fuck? Who? They got rid of all.
Our pictures on the wall. Nice.

Speaker 1 Have hair? That's cool. I did have hair.
Looks so cool, I bet. So cool.
God, he looks so cool. Yep.

Speaker 1 All right, as AQ does the Shipley shuffle out of here, ladies and gentlemen, joining us will be a guy who

Speaker 1 was drafted in the same draft class as me. A guy that taught me how to punt.
At one point, I think he signed like a seven-year deal to be the New Orleans Saints punter.

Speaker 1 Won a Super Bowl down here, and oh, yeah, he's going to hit the surprise on-side kick coming out of halftime. Ambush, ambush, ambush.
Out of SMU. Ladies and gentlemen, New York Jets punter.

Speaker 1 Thomas Morse.

Speaker 1 Thomas.

Speaker 1 I love it. Love the team gleasing shirt.
Oh, yeah. Jacked, man.
Holy shit. So jacked.
So jacked. It's absurd.
How do you get so jacked? Team Gleason shirt.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'll see you on the back board this year. Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 1 Thank you, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I appreciate that. I've been working out.
Not as much as you, but I've been working out. Boys, you're pumped to see you.

Speaker 1 As always. Here's the head shit, if you could put it on.

Speaker 1 Okay, so let's talk about the shirt. Let's talk about Team Gleason.
Obviously, Steve Gleason, former Saint, former teammate of yours, during the Glory Day.

Speaker 1 Coming out for the Saints, Glory Days.

Speaker 1 I was on the other side.

Speaker 1 You were. Yeah, when you hit that little thing and then win a Super Bowl and then.

Speaker 1 Remember?

Speaker 2 My mom was crying in the stand. She thought I missed the kick.

Speaker 1 What a duff.

Speaker 1 He just shaked it so bad. Oh, no.
Shanked it 13 yards, this guy. I've been watching him forever.
Mom English, I believe? Yep. Mom English soccer.

Speaker 2 Jamie Cole was sitting with her, so he talked her off the ledge and said there's no way he missed it that bad.

Speaker 1 Jamie Cole,

Speaker 1 kicking, punt, snapping coach legend.

Speaker 1 I have a lot of thanks to him and also a lot of thanks to Thomas Morstead who's been a punt coach to I don't know what the percentage of guys that have been are in the NFL or have been in the NFL over the last 20 years but basically all of them.

Speaker 2 This guy is absolute legend and with your season you are raising money for Team Gleason and ALS research I believe so we can not it's mainly for technology to help people that are diagnosed with ALS continue to live with ALS, be able to continue to be human, be able to communicate, and they also send ALS patients and their families on adventures all over the world to inspire people to keep living.

Speaker 2 They do so much.

Speaker 2 The last I checked with them, they're getting 800 applications a month for technology for people to just to be able to talk.

Speaker 1 Okay, so ALS is a, and we watched Steve Gleason's story, I think, from blocking punt the whole moment with Falcons all the way through. Now, ALS, brain good body stops.
Is that what happens?

Speaker 2 Yeah, so you're basically your muscles just atrophy.

Speaker 2 They stop working and they just atrophy and without medical intervention, most people will end up would suffocate because you can't even continue to breathe. And so

Speaker 2 you can get kind of like a pacemaker, like for your heart, but for your diaphragm now and basically be

Speaker 2 kind of like you're on a respirator, essentially. And that's how Steve continues to be in a chair and continues to move around.

Speaker 1 And there's no cure, right, for ALS?

Speaker 2 Not that's known. Not that's known.

Speaker 1 And you said they're getting 800 applicants a year or a month? A month. A month.
A month. So how many people have ALS? A lot of people have ALS.
Every time I go to an ALS fundraiser in an Alzheimer's,

Speaker 1 like anything, the people talk about the amount of people that are suffering from it, and we don't have a cure for it. Like, it is just something that happens.
There's a lot of colours.

Speaker 2 And I think what's scary is that the rate of

Speaker 2 The rate of it's growing, so more and more people are getting it for some reason,

Speaker 2 which is the reason for continued, I mean, other than getting support and people hearing about Team Gleason and what they do,

Speaker 2 they're getting more and more applicants because more and more people are getting diagnosed. So

Speaker 2 this has just been a thing for me to do. Steve's really helped me through my own trials that I've been through in the past number of years, and I want to do something to thank him.

Speaker 2 I'm like, who's encouraging this guy that's doing so much good shit for people all over the world?

Speaker 2 And you just be around him for two hours and you like feel kind of what he goes through, but then you go back to living your life. That's his everyday in perpetuity right now.

Speaker 2 And so I think any way that we can continue helping him be encouraged, feel loved, feel supported. He's doing so much for so many people.
And just him being alive is important.

Speaker 2 And so it's been an honor to do it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, shout out to you and shout out to Steve for

Speaker 1 being a familiar face that people can connect with to understand the story of what's happening to everybody else with that. You donated money this year, right? I remember we talked about this.

Speaker 1 It was punts inside the 20 and you were donating money, right? And I said I would match, right? So how much have we raised? How much do we owe? And how magical was the year?

Speaker 2 Well, the year was not magical.

Speaker 1 I thought

Speaker 1 it was a lot better. Not for the Jets, but for this.

Speaker 2 It was a cool thing. I have a lot of support.
Punters and kickers all over the league donated their jerseys after games to kind of keep weekly donations going.

Speaker 2 And yeah, so my contribution was $19,000. And if you decide to match that, that'll put us over the $100,000 mark.

Speaker 1 I would definitely match it. And congratulations, punters.

Speaker 1 Raising money, helping out with Team Gleason. And yeah, let's continue to innovate that technology so people can continue to live.

Speaker 1 And please tell Steve that although we have not met, he has inspired all of us. And he's a badass.
And that block was a thing of beauty. You're talking about picture perfect form.

Speaker 1 I assume everything else is awesome. Let's talk about the season with the Jets.
What year are you going into?

Speaker 2 This will be 17.

Speaker 1 Congrats.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 2 Crazy.

Speaker 1 And we've talked about it. You said go to the wheels, fall off.
And obviously you have a lot of history here in New Orleans, bounce around to a couple different teams, end up with the Jets.

Speaker 1 Now it become a mainstay for the Jets, I feel like. Another year under contract up there with them, right? Yep.
What was this year like? Chaotic, hectic?

Speaker 1 How do you kind of view it as a guy who's been there, done that with everything from Super Bowl to getting released and going somewhere else?

Speaker 2 I would just say it was a really weird year.

Speaker 2 We, you know, expectations are high, results weren't there, and that makes makes it a really kind of, it's the worst kind of season to have.

Speaker 2 You know, if you're a team that's rebuilding and you don't expect to really be that good that year, that's a different thing.

Speaker 2 We had high hopes. We had hopes of being a playing this week this season.
It just didn't happen.

Speaker 2 And I was, you know, no one wants to hear this, but I was proud of how our group stuck together.

Speaker 2 It was a tough year and being in that New York media market is something that's

Speaker 2 I'd heard about my whole career, but I've seen it now for the past few years.

Speaker 2 And, you know, guys came to work every day and continued to grind and continued to work, and there wasn't this fracturing that I think maybe gets reported here and there. So,

Speaker 2 you know, just a tough year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we followed. Yeah, we did.
Pretty closely. It was a tough year.
Tough year we were out there. We learned a lot in an athletic article that was reported.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes, and then there was a lot of other things that were said. You've been in a lot of buildings.
You've been around a lot of people.

Speaker 1 Woody Johnson, this guy is a topic of conversation, especially for the New York Jets and everything that happens.

Speaker 1 What are your thoughts on Woody Johnson and what do we get wrong about Woody Johnson potentially from behind the scenes?

Speaker 2 Well, I don't know what you guys think you're right or wrong or what's even being said. I don't follow too much of it, but I will say this.

Speaker 2 If there's one flaw that he has,

Speaker 2 he's the biggest Jets fan in the world.

Speaker 1 He loves the team. He's obsessed with the team.
He just loves the team.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 so,

Speaker 2 you know, that's all I would say about it. I see a little bit of stuff that's said, but honestly, I'm in my own little world.
I see things from a different perspective as a specialist.

Speaker 2 You know, you kind of have the blinders out a little bit, but most of the days you just go in there and do your work, and you're really only

Speaker 2 in the realm of people that you spend time with is the guys in the locker room and the equipment guys, the trainers, the people that you interface with every day.

Speaker 2 So all I know is every time I talk to him, man, all he wants to do is win.

Speaker 1 He loves a team. Yeah, he said in a press conference whenever they're introducing a new coach, which AJ has a question about, but like...

Speaker 1 He talked about how I had to look in a mirror and be a better owner, too. If he's obsessed with the Jets, it would make a little bit more sense.
He's around. I got questions.

Speaker 1 I like that he loves the team, though. That's good news.
I like that he seemingly wants them to be great, too, which, you know, not every owner seemingly wants to do.

Speaker 1 So, nonetheless, big turnover transition time for the Jets. AJ has a question for you.
Yeah, Thomas, obviously, Aaron Glenn comes in there.

Speaker 1 Great player for the Jets, and he seems to like embody everything that the New York Jets want to be. Have you had any interaction with him, and what do you think of the hire?

Speaker 2 I've texted with him a little bit.

Speaker 2 Biggest thing I would say that I could speak on is he was our cornerbacks coach in New Orleans for my last four years there. And then he obviously left with Dan Campbell to go to Detroit.
And so

Speaker 2 the thing I remember about him,

Speaker 2 again, not a ton of one-on-one time or things like that. He was super professional.
Just very, very professional guy.

Speaker 2 And, you know, I've kind of, I'm a huge Dan Campbell fan, so watch, I've I've kind of watched the lines path over the past you know four years and so I've seen a lot of AG on the TV and I know for the past few years Dan's really hyped him up as you know look I hope we never lose him because he's a great he's a great coach but at some point somebody's gonna have to give him an opportunity because he's he's gonna be a head coach in this league so I think just from a personal side everybody that's in this business is striving to get to some goal and for him to be able to get a head coaching opportunity with the team that drafted him.

Speaker 2 I mean, that's like storybooks.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's really cool. So it's pretty cool.
Yeah, we're excited to watch it all unfold. We can't thank you enough for stopping by.
Thanks for raising money for a great cause. And keep going, man.

Speaker 1 And thanks for everything you did for me, buddy.

Speaker 2 I appreciate you. My favorite jersey swap of all time is the Pat McFee number one jersey.
It just says, Thomas, you're my favorite punter.

Speaker 1 Got that one up in the house. So I appreciate you.
You are, man. You taught me how to do it, ladies and gentlemen.
Thomas Morristan.

Speaker 1 All right, Thomas. Hey, a lot of good times down here, huh?

Speaker 1 We're live, we're live, we're live. All right, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 We're live, we're live, we're live. I was excited.
Yeah. Who knows where he's at? He said, are you staying?

Speaker 1 He was about to make a bunch of recommendations, I assume. The NFL is in a great place as AQ

Speaker 1 Shipley Shuffle takes place as he joins us back here. Hey, thanks for coming back, AQ.

Speaker 1 I almost heard like the stone cold music as I saw him turn the class for real.

Speaker 1 It felt like a big punter. Huge, right?

Speaker 1 I didn't know he was was at tall. Huge.
And you should see his workouts. His workouts are acid up.
He had a shaker. He shows up with a shaker, shaking up, drinking some kind of protein drink.

Speaker 1 In the offseason, he goes and lives up at Altitude in Colorado somewhere. And he runs trails and shit.
I mean, he's just like,

Speaker 1 did you see how hair he is? Oh, yeah. Rocky 4 workouts.
Yeah. I mean, he.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 he taught me how to punt, like, actually, taught me form and everything like that. And

Speaker 1 he went about doing his stuff so much different than me, but, you know, the form was kind of all the same.

Speaker 1 I went to a camp in the offseason with Jamie Cole, and we were just going to have like a morning session with some of the NFL guys.

Speaker 1 And, you know, I may or may not have

Speaker 1 shut it down and I

Speaker 1 do. In Wisconsin.

Speaker 1 You know, don't get to see these people all the time. Like, it's good to see you guys.
Let's just chat. Let's have a good time here in Whitewater, Wisconsin, I believe.
Great town. Good times.

Speaker 1 Good, nice little bars. Hard to get out of there at night, though, not a lot of Ubers and stuff.
Sure. But I had one.
Great D3 school. Wasn't the only one? Yeah, definitely.
Great setup.

Speaker 1 I mean, it was a fantastic place. So we do that.
We go out like 8.30, 9 a.m. We're going to go hit something, you know?

Speaker 1 And that's a good place to kind of work on some stuff, watch somebody else do their stuff. I assume this is what quarterbacks do.
I assume it's what tackles do, everything like that.

Speaker 1 And also, you know, compete a little bit. Let's go ahead and do this.
I get there. Thomas Morstead.
Houses, like three pre-workouts, okay?

Speaker 1 Starts flipping tires on the sideline, flipping tires down a thing. Had it hammer.
I don't know where the fuck.

Speaker 1 Hitting, they think 35 minutes I watched him do a workout to warm up, and I was just sitting there the entire time. To warm up?

Speaker 1 This is to warm up, and then he had music blaring, and then you see him on the jets on hard knocks.

Speaker 1 He sprints the length of the field before he goes out and does a kickoff or a punt or a hold or whatever. It's like he is, whenever it comes, like his workouts and stuff, super intense.

Speaker 1 But that's why he's able to blow up for 17 years. We got to draft the same class.
He's having more than double my career, and I love him. And his glee and stuff's crazy.
ALS is crazy. Yeah, worst.

Speaker 1 It is. That's something you would think like Neuralink would be involved with.
Hopefully. Going forward.
How about them saying the big issue is your body becomes like

Speaker 1 chokes you eat.

Speaker 1 It's not really a brain thing, I don't think. It's the scariest thing.
Yeah, because your brain remains. Exactly.
So you're trying to.

Speaker 1 You just don't have the muscle even to speak. Like, it's what Luke Garrett's disease.
I mean, that's what it is.

Speaker 1 It's the scariest thing you could think of. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And you're watching this Gleason

Speaker 1 story.

Speaker 1 His life expectancy, like he has outlived it by far. I went to a Pearl Jam concert in like 2015 at Wrigley Field, and they brought Steve Gleason up on stage.

Speaker 1 And he said, like, you know, he introduced one of the songs, and he was like, I feel better today than I did, like, when I was playing football. Like, it's just, it's wild.

Speaker 1 10 years from then, what's a Pearl Jam song that I would know or Debuts would know? Keep in flow.

Speaker 1 To keep going.

Speaker 1 That's them? Water? Yeah, oh, yeah. Oh, you don't know.

Speaker 1 That's them. He chases them away.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Deba, you know that? Yeah, Pink Fluid.
What? Hilly asshole.

Speaker 1 Easy. Hell yeah.
Peanut asshole.

Speaker 1 Same region. Hell yeah.
Pink asshole. Pretty much.
Better than you too. You know U2?

Speaker 1 I just chose Big B.

Speaker 1 I know the bottom of the cattle. We didn't see the hits, though.
Yeah, I know the bottom of that thing. I got a chance to see a live 30, 60K.
What was it? Last year. 60K.
60,000.

Speaker 1 Maybe our expectations were too high. This time last year.
60K? No doubt. This time last year, he was sitting in a full NHL, Vegas Knights,

Speaker 1 and we were going that night to, yeah, see.

Speaker 1 Are you still a member of the Las Vegas Golden Knights? Yeah. I just honestly just wait for the fucking boys to call on you, and you show up.
So, man, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I think I want to say they're first in the Western Conference right now. You don't know a big deal.
Well, maybe not. Maybe the fucking Winnipeg

Speaker 1 Jets are up there. How are the Panthers? I saw there at the White House.

Speaker 1 I would assume we're cooking. I think Gump's showing we got a loss last night.
We've been cooking. I think you're first.

Speaker 1 Let's go to the back of the set here at Radio Row. Hey, Gumps, are the Panthers good, Gumps? Yep.

Speaker 8 Yeah, they're still good. Tough loss last night, but they're all right.

Speaker 1 Keep standing to that whole island there. Fuck boy Ion in the back of them.
Great, great set of mana to see the ball. Yeah, I mean, that's Billy Coding, YouTube back there.

Speaker 1 Gumpy, obviously splunking through the entire interview. And talks a laptop? Talks, not a laptop.
No, that's his home rig.

Speaker 1 Pack that thing. I don't go anywhere without it.
Takes it everywhere he goes. He got dirty, obviously sitting next to talk, getting the job done.
And then there's D-bone. Looks good.

Speaker 1 You know, and that's... Look at him.
Yep. D-bone's at Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Mitts playing slime soccer. I was going to say Mitt's on miniclip.com and pop-putt.
Yeah, and that's mid football. That's right.
That's right.

Speaker 1 And then on the other side, Foxy, go back to you guys there. It's a hell of a setup.
The people that did this did a fantastic job. You got Foxy, Zito, and Nick on the far side.

Speaker 1 Right next to Nick is a curtain there. There's other people less than three inches from Nick's arm right there.
Oh, really? They're getting weird. Nick's in it.
Like a different show?

Speaker 1 Great work, boys. You guys did a great job with CFO Phil sitting up there, housing a coffee overseeing.
Zito, good setup, I think.

Speaker 1 I love it. Foxy, how do you...

Speaker 1 That's good. That's glowing.
Hell yeah. That is a glowing review.
Foxy, how's it been? One of the smoothest sets we've had in so long, I feel like. Wow.
Wow. Look at this.
Wow. Barcode NT.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 The whole set.

Speaker 1 I just look around. I keep knowing.
Did you know that there's a drum on the front of your desk? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Actual drum? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Serbo trophy, too. That's a drum.
I think you play that thing.

Speaker 1 It's not as big as Purdue.

Speaker 1 Is that the real Dims IQ? It's heavy.

Speaker 1 I thought it was going to be like hollow. It's not hollow.

Speaker 1 The lantern above your head, like just the detail of the class.

Speaker 1 This is Mystic Scenic Studio, I believe, is the company. They did the same.
This is the same frame, I think, as last year.

Speaker 1 They just redated it. It was wonderfully done.
Got a banjo up there.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's cool.

Speaker 1 It's awesome. A trumpet?

Speaker 1 This is awesome. New Orleans.
A lot of shit. Oh, yeah.
Look at that. Hey,

Speaker 1 flag there. How's a Gator? Out of football.
Here's a Gaiter. There a Gator?

Speaker 1 Here's a Gaider here or two. Guider? Can we beat that Gator? Couple Guiders.

Speaker 1 Troopers. Appreciate you boys are doing.
Hell yeah. Hey, they clean.

Speaker 1 Some of the best. I wonder if you can't be fat because it's too hot down here.
Yeah. To wear that costume.
I'm sure we can find one or two.

Speaker 1 Troopers? There's always one or two.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but they're like probably administrative yeah desk guys yeah they're administrative they're not in the not on the road i think it's way too hot to just if you had to be in a that uniform and mobile to be fat it's too hot down here yeah it's like arizona it'd be tough to be fat in arizona but there's no there's no humidity in arizona you can get away with things in arizon it's 125 in the summer though it doesn't matter you don't sweat are you doing a chef thing down

Speaker 1 no no chefling you don't sweat you don't sweat in the summer no because it literally evaporates that's why so many people like like, they'll go hiking and they're not sweating.

Speaker 1 So they're like, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. And they're not drinking water and they

Speaker 1 pass out. Die.
Heat exhaustion. Yep.
Boom, dead. Dead.
Rest in peace to them. Rest in peace.
They're fools, but they show me water. They should still rest in peace.
Absolute fools. Humpback, right?

Speaker 1 Camelback. Camelback.
Humpback.

Speaker 1 Well, they got humpbacks. Humpback whales out in the ocean.
Humpback.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you go on top of camelback and you see. Yeah, humpbacks.

Speaker 1 That's what we're talking about.

Speaker 1 Age, favorite thing thus far since we got down here in New Orleans? Well,

Speaker 1 I saw a few people cruising the halls that we get to see at Super Bowl every year. Good to see Glazer.

Speaker 1 I haven't made the rounds exactly yet, but I'd say right now, Trey Hendrickson coming in here and Fred Warner. Fred Warner, honestly, is one of my favorite players in the NFL.

Speaker 1 Might be my favorite player in the NFL, so it was great to have him on. Is he your favorite Mormon? I mean, I guess I haven't.

Speaker 1 Put him into categories yet, like haven't said favorite Mormon. Brady Popinga was a guy I played with.
So he's your favorite Mormon? Four or five years, five years roommate, home and away games.

Speaker 1 He really schooled me up on what's going on. So Fred Warner, top five Mormon in here? Definitely, yeah, definitely top three.
Oh, Kyle Van Noy up there too. Kyle Van Noy's up there.

Speaker 1 I don't even know all my friends that are Mormons. Andy Reed? Andy Reid's your great Mormon.
A great Mormon.

Speaker 1 Is that your top Mormon? Is he a great Mormon? I think so. Andy Reed? Is he a Jack Mormon wonder? He's done great things.
He has a Mormon. That's cool.
Yeah. That's a good way to put it.

Speaker 1 A lot of Italians coaching here. Yeah.
The all-Italian bowl, you might as well say, for the Philadelphia Eagles. Yep.
Because you got Big Dom running things.

Speaker 1 Siriani doing his thing.

Speaker 1 Vic Fangio who was Fangie over not too long ago you guys kicked him out of Miami

Speaker 1 ran him out of town. What's that all about because he was

Speaker 1 top finished? You know, it's a relationship business, you know sometimes guys just don't mesh meeting rooms don't mesh personalities players

Speaker 1 honestly why did it was it his scheme didn't fit a soft organization

Speaker 1 was you know he wanted to follow and you know be kind of that guy be around the ball a little bit more he he is very scheme specific been running a similar scheme for a long long time but shit he landed on his feet feet in Philly, and it's been working wonders so far.

Speaker 1 Dumpy, you think that says more about the Dolphins or Vic Fangio?

Speaker 8 I think it's a little of both. We lost six of our starting defensive players at the end of last season as well.
So we had nobody going into Kansas City, but nobody remembers that at all.

Speaker 1 Well, you guys blame Vic Fangio, though.

Speaker 8 No, we had Bruce Irving, who we signed like 24 hours before the game out there.

Speaker 1 I love Bruce. Let's go ahead and remember West Virginia Legends.
He was a great player.

Speaker 1 Justin Hewson was a great player.

Speaker 8 There was a lot of players that used to be great, though.

Speaker 1 So why is Vic Fangio getting blamed? Why does he get run out of time?

Speaker 8 The players just didn't like him. Jalen Ramsey, Javon Holland both didn't like him.
I don't know why.

Speaker 1 Okay, that goes back to, is this more about the Dolphins or is this more about Vic Fangio?

Speaker 1 I'd say a little of both.

Speaker 1 And think we've had a good year. Yeah, he did.
He was very

Speaker 1 head coach considering. Oh, yeah, the Dolphins were lurking that whole time.
They were lurking.

Speaker 1 They were lurking that whole time. What happens with the Dolphins? I mean, Tyreek Hill put out a groundbreaking tweet, so hopefully you listen to him.
What did he say, Gumps?

Speaker 8 He said, I hope we add better players and win more games.

Speaker 1 Holy shit. Do you agree? And I couldn't fucking agree more.

Speaker 1 I never fucking thought of that.

Speaker 3 I never thought of winning more games.

Speaker 1 Take care of the obvious. That's great.
Re tweet, Gumps. Maybe you guys win Super Bowl next year.

Speaker 8 We're only 20 million over the cap going into next year. A lot of spots to fill.
We'll be fine.

Speaker 1 Hey, Super Bowl 60, though, could be the Dolphins. Could be.

Speaker 3 We got Mariota coming in to be back up.

Speaker 1 She after pushing Mariota with the five. That was wild, man.
I'm like, wow, I love Oost. Those are like a crazy match.
He thought that was like league changing.

Speaker 1 Well, I saw somebody posted about fantasy football conversation. I'm like, what? Who is, are we missing something? Fools.
AB. That's where the Dolphins are now, though.
Is Tua good?

Speaker 1 Are we good to go for Tua all season? Oh, he's healthy. His hip's good.
His head's good. We're not worried about his head anymore, which is good.
No, he'll miss six games next year, but, you know.

Speaker 1 No, he won't.

Speaker 1 He's going to be healthy next year. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Until he's up. But I agree, he's going to start like gang busting.
What about Anthony Richardson? Let me tell you a thought I had the other day on Anthony Richards. Okay.

Speaker 1 I was sitting here, I was scrolling, I saw something. I said, you know what, this guy's so young.

Speaker 1 This guy's got such good opportunity and promise ahead. This guy went and got the laser thing done like Josh Allen did.

Speaker 1 Look out, NFL. Anthony Richardson is the next NFL MVP.
That's what's going to happen next year. Love it.
Anthony Richardson's going to win the MVP. This young guy got it figured out this offseason.

Speaker 1 I can already tell. I haven't heard anything from his team.
I haven't seen anything. But I can just tell in my heart of hearts that he's got it figured out.

Speaker 1 I could be wrong, but I think he's younger than Shader and Cam Ward and Will Howard and Quinn Urs and all those guys. Exactly.
Young.

Speaker 1 He's got 10 years to get better. Not seeing anything's almost better.
They're not doing the hype videos. No bad.

Speaker 1 Look at Boomy. They're just doing the work.
Just doing the work. And he's so young, he can still learn.
I'm all in. Bingo.
Look out for AR-5 next year. Boom.
Winning the MVP. 2025?

Speaker 1 Possibly you. AR-5.
Bingo. Look at it.
I mean, it's all kind of written in the stars. The NFL is at a place that is so strong that it's going to be hard for anybody to catch up.

Speaker 1 You know, people talk about the NBA's ratings, and they talk about the NHL's ratings, and they talk about baseball existing. I don't hear anybody talk about baseball ratings.
Have you ever?

Speaker 1 They're so good that you're on the bus. I couldn't even guess the number of people that watch games.
Like, what's the expected? 100,000?

Speaker 1 It's got to be

Speaker 1 a bigger one.

Speaker 1 It's probably the biggest World Series they've had in a long time. Because Shohei's in there.
Freddie Friedman. Dodgers, Yankees.
Steens is a star. What about game to game, though?

Speaker 1 What about regular season games?

Speaker 1 It doesn't matter. I guess there's so many of them, yeah.

Speaker 1 World Series averaged 15.8. That's a good number.
Huge. Yeah, that's a massive number.
But the season, there's no, like in my head for the regular season, I couldn't even count.

Speaker 1 If it's not a primetime game, if it's just happening, what is a number? Very local market, probably. I would say, like, Dodgers probably have huge numbers.

Speaker 1 But, I mean, it's got damn M-tables the size of a thimble. I don't know why.
What do you want me to do? Came out of nowhere. How long have you been waiting to roast that side of it?

Speaker 1 Since I fucking saw the thing. It's a good table.
Couldn't fit, you know. It does look cool.
It does look cool. I would say, like, Dodgers probably do huge numbers.
Yankees probably do huge numbers.

Speaker 1 Mets.

Speaker 1 Pirates. No.

Speaker 1 Definitely not. Braves, maybe.
But like, outside of that, Phillies, I guess, was probably pretty big, too. But outside of that, very Cubs.
Maybe it goes up. How do they make so much money, huh? Hats.

Speaker 1 Ticket sales. Selling hats.
Well, try to get a lot of money. Hats.
I got a little buckozo hat right now. Selling hats.
There you go. Think about the amount of hats.
And 80 home games a year.

Speaker 1 Actually, the ice cream in the helmet.

Speaker 1 Ice cream in the helmet. You got that too.

Speaker 1 Definitely. Baseballs.

Speaker 8 ESPN games were $1.6 million per game.

Speaker 1 On Sunday night, you're saying? That was a prime time?

Speaker 1 That's not true.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
No, I heard it was 2.6, Gump. I mean, TGL's doing that number.
You think TGL? Just throwing numbers out.

Speaker 1 If you say average, yeah,

Speaker 3 if we're taking 15 mil.

Speaker 1 Okay, Gump, I'll let you finish. If we're going to take 15 miles,

Speaker 1 if we take 15 mil for the World Series game, you're putting that into the games that have 22,000 watching. 15 mil was on Fox.
He said on ESPN, you asshole. The World Series was on fucking Fox.

Speaker 1 Okay, then it holds even lesser value than what he said, I guess.

Speaker 8 National TV ratings, both ESPN and Fox.

Speaker 1 I'm not even listening.

Speaker 1 I'm not even listening. Can you put it behind me over here? I love baseball.
The Reds are going to be great this year. They're going to win it all.

Speaker 1 ESPN's Sunday Night Baseball finished the season with its most watched. Season tonight.
That's prime time, Pat. That's a primetime game.

Speaker 1 With average audience of $1.5 million, plus 6% increase year over year. Fox's audience was consistent with last year's average, 1.8, slightly

Speaker 1 up from last year.

Speaker 1 4,000 more. That's big deal.
That's pretty good. Meanwhile, MLB games on FS1 have increased 9% with an average audience of 375.
So that's probably the one, right? Average.

Speaker 1 That's probably the 375 is probably worth it. Sunday night's prime.
That's legit. Like, Sunday night baseball is fun to look.
It's good. Those are good matchups.
Those are cool.

Speaker 1 Anyway, sports still dominate. If you look at the NBA's numbers and compare it against other things that are happening that aren't sports, NBA is still doing great.

Speaker 1 NHL is still doing great if you were to compare it to like a show. Baseball still doing great if you were to compare it to a show.

Speaker 1 The NFL got 4.7 million viewer average for the Pro Bowl games. And it was a disaster.
And it was a blowout, and it was a lot of things. Drake May was in it.
No offense to Drake May.

Speaker 1 Whoa, whoa, you do not have to throw that throw that in there.

Speaker 1 You do not have to throw that in there. He threw a great pick six, also some great touchdowns.

Speaker 1 That's unfair. What? That's unfair what you're doing right now, but I agree.
It's awesome that sports

Speaker 1 all the way up. Let me reiterate or clarify what I meant by that.
When Drake May was announced to go to the Pro Bowl, it prompted people like J.J.

Speaker 1 Watt to say, let's just call it the participation bowl, please. Let's not call it the Pro Bowl.

Speaker 1 So no matter what is out on the field, it can be flag football, it can be a tug of war, it can be a punt perfect, which was the most exhilarating and electrifying part of the entire thing.

Speaker 1 The great football race. It could be the football race, obviously, where Micah Parson blows right through the

Speaker 1 big, cool spike. Yeah, it could be.
Well, that's Thursday night. So with that being said, let's strictly talk about Sunday.

Speaker 1 4.7 million viewers is a huge number. Massive.
And this is exactly why people say, you know, you should just get rid of the Pro Bowl. They never will.

Speaker 1 They're going to continue to try to tweak with this particular thing. But if you're getting almost 5 $5 million

Speaker 1 on the Sunday, that is not supposed to be anything.

Speaker 1 That's just the Sunday in between championship weekend and Super Bowl weekend, let alone whenever they add another game and another bye week, and then the Pro Bowl games continue to go.

Speaker 1 The NFL's numbers are only going up and up. That projected salary cap of 275 is only going to get more and more and more with these TV deals.

Speaker 1 The NFL is king, AQ Shipley, and this weekend is basically a celebration of that as they'll topple another number that nobody's ever seen before.

Speaker 1 The ratings are always insane, especially for the Super Bowl. Do you think that number ever stops or it's just going to go forever? It has to stop at some point.

Speaker 1 No, because the game is getting more global and we're getting more women and young ladies into the game. Oh my God, I didn't even think about that.
I would assume it just keeps going up.

Speaker 1 We're talking about what's going on with flag football and the high school level and the international level, Olympics, all that type of shit.

Speaker 1 You would assume, and you know, the average football for the day one football fans aren't going anywhere.

Speaker 1 I completely forgot about the fact that I just assumed America would get stagnant at some point. Agree.
But we are at such an early point of this girls' flag football.

Speaker 1 And there's people that get mad at me for talking about this, that it was happening on Sunday. I was having a lunch date with my wife, Cheesecake Factory, fantastic.
Oh, delicious.

Speaker 1 No sound on TV, though. Just TV.
Okay, and I'm watching this flag football, girls' high school showcase flag football game. The NFC is dominating the AFC, okay?

Speaker 1 So normally that'd be an immediate, what are we doing here? But literally nothing, can't change the channel, and it's on right in front of our face. So I started watching the shit I was seeing.

Speaker 1 I'm like, hey, they're playing ball out out here. Zoom in on safeties, reading the formation, making checks.
They're doing audibles. They have pitch read through.
I'm like,

Speaker 1 I didn't know. I did not know they were playing ball.
Like they are checking audibles, deep shots. Now, are they going to overthrow? Yes.
Is there shit? Yeah. It's high school football.

Speaker 1 It's high school football, let alone that it's girls or boys. They're not like pros at this point.
This is high school.

Speaker 1 It was like, I was incredibly impressed at the level of this shit at this stage, let alone where it's going to go. You know, I was very lucky when we got a chance to showcase a teaser yesterday.

Speaker 1 Like, I was very lucky to be a part of that NFL commercial spot. And Principal P is the dog.
Yeah. Principal P, he hates those kids.
Sure. This way.

Speaker 1 I mean, Principal P ain't got time for these kids because these kids don't understand. But he loved adding girls flag football as a varsity sport.

Speaker 1 And then as you're kind of learning about what the mission is, it's like, hey, they want this in all 50 sports. And it's like, why not?

Speaker 1 If you have a football field on the field and they have the setup, they have the rules, they have the championship, they understand it all.

Speaker 1 It's like football might be just getting started with a very large portion of people just going forward, let alone where we're at now. And it's like, I guess the game can only continue to grow.

Speaker 1 That's a whole nother half of the population that I think can see themselves potentially playing or the future playing. And it's being an Olympic sport.
It's like,

Speaker 1 yeah, I guess I think the game. The Olympics are huge.
Huge. Because now every guy that's sitting there is like,

Speaker 1 daughter's playing football now. That's all I could think of when i saw she's going to the olympics when i saw they were running this direct snap to

Speaker 1 running back who was also a quarterback option play

Speaker 1 with a by pitch and then that person would sneak out into the flat and then they're running this other one and then the quarterback had to decide whether to run it or throw it i'm like there's a lot happening in that one play right there like there's a lot of reading that has to happen there's a lot of pitching that has to happen there's a lot of everything all i could think of was mackenzie going crazy out there just yeah mackenzie i think she's a lefty so just like scooping and like moving i'm like yes we are gonna do that for sure i think it's great i think the game's in a great spot i do too i think covet it was the only year probably in the last

Speaker 1 50 years maybe that the salary cap has gone down right i mean that's the only reason like that's the only way we can expect it ever to drop again so it's just gonna go i heard people are gonna boycott super bowl

Speaker 1 you'll see the numbers yeah you think bigger than ever uh i think so that's been the trend for everything i think so yeah it might there might be like a little dip if the chiefs go again but that's only just because people don't want to watch the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 But to your point, like more girls with Taylor Swift and everything are going to still watch, so it might just even itself out.

Speaker 1 Are we going to get to the point where people are just understand that like

Speaker 1 she's good? It's good that she's a fan of the NFL. No, no, people hate her.
No, they're locked in right now.

Speaker 1 Whatever they feel, they're locked in. Minds don't change.
Just like politics, probably.

Speaker 1 Because whether they don't like her music or whether they don't like the fact that they even show her during the game, like those people who hate that are always going to hate her.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but why can't you just see it as good for a leak? Oh, I don't know. All right,

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't think they sky blue.
I don't think they think that broadly. Well, to be honest, I think it has something to do with the ocean and the sun.
Reflection.

Speaker 1 I haven't really been able to figure that one out. I can't frack anything out.
I haven't been able to. There's people yelling.
I love that. A lot of excitement.
A lot of juice.

Speaker 1 Oh, there's some good juice. Guys, got sunglasses on.

Speaker 1 Yes. Let's get that thing up there.

Speaker 1 Let me see you, Scotty.

Speaker 1 Let me see you. That's Bruce Brown.

Speaker 1 I did rally.

Speaker 1 Bruce sat there directing traffic.

Speaker 1 Three, five minutes.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 That's not the right spot, I don't think.

Speaker 1 Is that the Oikos booth? I don't know. No way.
Oikos Yogurt? Yeah. I think so.
There's Philly right there.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you why. East John's got a good shot.
Who is that? Who's on there, you think? Phil Jackson. Could be Phil Jackson.
That could be Phil Jackson. That's a Sneed right there.
Run the triangle.

Speaker 1 That's who?

Speaker 1 Les Sneed. Les something.

Speaker 1 Les Sneed or Rams Jackson?

Speaker 1 Les Bowen. Les Bowen, I think's his name.
He's a Philly reporter. 60 years.
Who's this guy?

Speaker 1 That's a radio. That's a radio station in Philadelphia.
Got it. Hold on.
I love this guy.

Speaker 1 This guy right here.

Speaker 1 That guy's. Yeah, I agree.
That field. The H.

Speaker 1 I agree.

Speaker 1 It's Van Field. I love everything about that.
Shout out to local reporters, by the way, covering the sport. The passion that is brought every single day to cover one team.

Speaker 1 Absolutely bananas. Place is filling up pretty good.
Yeah, it is. Big time.
It's gonna be a madhouse the next two days.

Speaker 1 AJ Francis is here. Shout out to AJ.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 There it is. Uh,

Speaker 1 not nada.

Speaker 1 It is filling up. Holy shit.
Dongo here.

Speaker 1 Fondongo down at NXT last night. Welcome back, Dongo.
He's back. Bam.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're right. Right in time for Maybe.
I didn't even think about that. Yeah, locale.
What's that, guys? That is real sideburns. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Look at the Moxie. What do you think? The Moxie on top.
I got to see what we're talking about. Butch, butch.
Don't do that.

Speaker 1 What do you think it's painted on? Come on. Butch, that's his face.

Speaker 1 He actually doesn't even shave. That's it.
Guys, goofball.

Speaker 1 Oh, well, listen, we definitely don't like him as much as we like Dongo. Fon Dongo.
This guy's cool. Yeah.
Oh, you should have seen the run he had, D-Buts. Oh, D-Buts.
Rival the tribal chief.

Speaker 1 You don't think that's real?

Speaker 1 Pause?

Speaker 1 You don't think that's real?

Speaker 1 Now that I'm looking at it again,

Speaker 1 super real, for sure. I'm starting to think his whole face isn't real.
What? You think it's a mask? Is that one of those masks that they say some of our celebrities and politicians wear? What?

Speaker 1 AJ.

Speaker 1 You're talking about... I think that the internet says that.
You're talking about the old man mask that we have? You're talking about one of those? Yeah, I got one too.

Speaker 1 Those are clones. They're not masks.

Speaker 1 That guy's not a clone. Okay.
That's not a mask. That's his face.
And he actually doesn't even have to shave it. That's the way his hair grows.
Naturally. That's what I've been told.

Speaker 1 And it stops right there. And then it's got a crisp, great lineup.
Eyebrows, true.

Speaker 1 Boom.

Speaker 1 It's war paint, but just natural. His hair.
And on the other side, don't go. Don't worry about that.
Saying he's next Steve Austin. He's got it.
All right. We're going to get the hell out of here.

Speaker 1 We'll be back tomorrow. What a time.
Awesome. Good to be here.
Who do we have tomorrow?

Speaker 1 Good day tomorrow. We have Puka, Jaden Daniels, Daniels, Aiden Hutchinson.
Wow. That's a good lineup.
Good lineup. Yeah.
I'd say. AQ, are you going to be here tomorrow? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 You doing that chef thing? I've tried to ask you a couple times with Connecticut. I've said no.
What do you mean? What's that a couple of times? Why aren't you doing it? What's chef thing?

Speaker 1 He does it every year.

Speaker 1 It might be a little bad blood here.

Speaker 1 Different group now.

Speaker 1 Now you got bad blood.

Speaker 1 Different group. COVID put him out.
So a different group bought it. They're running it.

Speaker 1 Now that guy that used to run the one that I used to do does one out actually in Phoenix at the it's called taste of the tour now because of the waste management open out there. Oh,

Speaker 1 it is he was there he slept in bunk beds with somebody because his little his group

Speaker 1 ain't that right

Speaker 1 the t-birds run that thing

Speaker 1 This is your first year as a member of the t-birds running the waste management. Yep.
Are you uh you guys excited about how things are going? Wait, why are you going great bunk beds?

Speaker 1 No, it's not the bunk beds. But we stay up there.

Speaker 1 Late nights, early mornings. No, you said you guys sleep naked except in your red jackets and the black.
Blue jackets. Blue jackets.

Speaker 1 Same fucking beats.

Speaker 1 The beats. Yeah.
So it's not bunk beds, but it is. You guys are twin beds next to each other.
Yeah, basically. Is it true that you sat down? It's like training camp.

Speaker 1 And you put your balls in the 17th green hole? I did not do that. I thought that was initiation.
Traditional. No.
Fire answer down there.

Speaker 1 Who'd you sleep next to? The guy snored? Darcy Hortichuk, Enforcer in the NHL. Hortichuk? Hortichuk? He's got a busted nose for sure.
What if he snores so loud? Wow.

Speaker 1 I snore too. You guys got a TV in there? TV.

Speaker 1 Got a little kitchenette.

Speaker 3 It's nice.

Speaker 1 Really? What do you do with your lotion? Do you just kind of say, hey, turn over?

Speaker 1 What? It's kind of one of those things where you do your thing, he does his thing, and nothing leaves.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 I don't know how it works.

Speaker 1 I'm asking a question.

Speaker 1 Exactly what happens. What's this guy's problem? I don't know.
He sounded like he was talking from experience with you, maybe. I don't know what that was.
It's just a question.

Speaker 1 I mean, look, I know what you like to do at your hotel room.

Speaker 1 So I'm not a hotel runner.

Speaker 1 This man can't help himself. So what you do, you guys reply on the course in the morning and stuff like that, the T-Birds? Why you got to see it? Oh, we run all the venues and stuff.

Speaker 1 So all like the suite areas, we got to make sure everything's, everybody's happy. Okay, so you're filling up.
Everybody's got a different job. What was your job?

Speaker 1 I got a couple venues on the 18th hole overlooking the winning putt. To do what? We got to get drinks in here?

Speaker 1 Yeah, so if anybody needs anything, I got to make sure everybody's happy, wheeling and deep, shaking. Are you on call this week? I like Big Dumb.
No, no, no. When I get back, I got a hole.

Speaker 1 You're in the service industry there. You're in the The service industry.
Thing wouldn't go on without us. What do you do? We love the T-bird.
Amen. What do you get from being a T-bird?

Speaker 1 You get to do that? Volunteer? Fulfillment. Get to donate $17 million to the city of Phoenix.
Okay, so you don't do it for you. I got it.
That's right. You get to be a good person.
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 It is fulfillment, D-Butt. You get to skip the line.
Say, hey, I'm a T-bird, bitch. Okay.

Speaker 1 You go house cup. You got a hundred round or something.
You do got a house cup? Because I know you guys wear that belt. Kind of watch anything you want, which is kind of cool, too.

Speaker 1 Just go walk up on it. Do you guys walk up here with like a T-bird stein?

Speaker 1 No, no, we don't have one of those. You don't have a ton of dirty.
Can you get hammered while you're working there? Get off some drinks. Okay.
Have a good time. Good time.

Speaker 1 Oh, I can't wait for you to be in the hospitality tent and beat the shit out of some patron because you've had one too many. Yeah, because those kids like slide down, they get hammered drawing.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's a party. It is a party.
So you got to deal with a bunch of booze bags out there? A lot of them. You guys love it.
That's right where the T-Birds warm. Yeah, that's why you train.

Speaker 1 We like to have fun, but also we like to make the world a better place. That's right.
That's T-Birds. That's right.
Anybody's getting out of line, you're out of here.

Speaker 1 Oh, you guys are kicking people out? Kicking people out. You guys can kick them out? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I got two hours of post time to like literally crowd enforcement. Yes.
Helping police out on stuff.

Speaker 1 You're staying in post? Oh, I got two post sessions. Yeah.
Four hours of post.

Speaker 1 Do you take people down, like spear them? You can't point them out. Yeah, like you work with

Speaker 1 Costello PD, Phoenix PD. So they give you a taser, one of the protection.
Oh, no, I wish I had that.

Speaker 1 They give it a little bit of a dashboard.

Speaker 1 You don't think?

Speaker 1 Give them guns. Actually, yeah, I got a clock.

Speaker 1 He just puts it right to the temples. Hey, I'm not playing.

Speaker 1 I'm a Thunderbird.

Speaker 1 So, do you guys go through training? They show you videos of what's allowed, who you're allowed to kick out, who you're not allowed to kick out. All at your discretion.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. The Thunderbird's got a lot of power.
A lot of power. You got a bunch of booze bags rolling around a golf course, and all of a sudden, you've got a blue jacket on.

Speaker 1 And don't you look at me sideways. Yeah, that's right.
I know who AQ's kicking out.

Speaker 1 Who's that? Who's that, Con? Let's just say D-Butt's not going to that test.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's him. It's on me.
That's him, D-but.

Speaker 1 Start him, D-Buck.

Speaker 1 Because he's an athlete problem. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 I don't think so.

Speaker 1 Hey, Q, would you like to clarify anything that was just said about you? This is a Mark Hogan situation. Yeah, that's just typical con man.
Typical con man. You have any regrets on the bottom?

Speaker 1 Pouring gas on the fire. What fire? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There wasn't a fire. You actually started one.
Yeah, I do believe. That's it.
I'll tell you what, it's great to be down here in New Orleans. And

Speaker 1 let's enjoy it all. Football is for everybody.
Football's awesome. Football's going to grow.
126 million was the viewers last year, Super Bowl. 4.7 million on a flag football game.

Speaker 1 I assume it's going to do big, but what does that mean? Who's doing the numbers? AJ doesn't believe any of it. TGL last night?

Speaker 1 Huge. Great game.
So good. Great match.
It was a blow.

Speaker 1 Foxy, you watch every single time. Yeah, I missed this one, though.
It was an absolute blowout. Again, there's only been one good match.
Last night it was 6-2. The Boston Golf Club lost.

Speaker 1 Sorry, I would have switched my camera, but it's on Gump right now. Okay, well, Gumpy doesn't deserve credit for that day because Gumpy isn't watching TGO.

Speaker 8 The Boston team stinks, they lose every time.

Speaker 1 Every team loses every time.

Speaker 1 I believe LA is undefeated, and last night was the debut of Tommy Fleetwood. L.A.
is Alexis O'Hanahan's team. The guy who founded Reddit.
It is in Serena, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I believe they are founders of that particular team. We must say,

Speaker 1 if we're talking TGO,

Speaker 1 rest in peace to Tiger Wood's mom. Yes, yeah.

Speaker 1 That moment at last week's TGO

Speaker 1 where Tiger looks at her and has that moment here's the video

Speaker 1 hey mom

Speaker 1 not gonna suck tonight

Speaker 1 okay

Speaker 1 just like a childlike interaction with his mom so happy that that got captured obviously she passed away so rest in peace to mama woods obviously

Speaker 1 massive piece of one of the greatest athletes in the history of sport. And I'm happy Tiger got to have that moment in TGL.
legitimately.

Speaker 1 Now, I assume it's going to be difficult for Tiger to walk into the TGO arena a lot because last time he, you know, but nonetheless, TGL is still happening, and it's only getting better. Yeah,

Speaker 1 they should have taken this week off. I would assume there's not many more weeks left because it's like once they get into the players and masters.
What happened in golf? Something happened in golf.

Speaker 1 Big news. Rory.
Rory won Pebble Beach. Okay, I watched that.
He 21 minus 21. There's an exemption for, so the, was it the USGA, who runs the U.S.

Speaker 1 Open, said said they will give an exemption to a live player in the top three, I believe. In the top three in the game.
Of the live rankings. Yes, live points.
Got it.

Speaker 1 So everybody's thinking this is going to be DeShambru.

Speaker 1 Or Rombo. Yeah, Rombo.
Does anybody know the Liv Game? Well, ROM already has...

Speaker 1 Now, I would assume...

Speaker 1 So has ROM or I don't, Deshambeau...

Speaker 1 won a U.S. Open because you already have an exemption if you've won it in the past.
And this is not the PGA, this is the USGA. Yes.
Which is a different group, remember? Because the U.S.

Speaker 1 Open's golf course is always so terrible. That's right.
And it's always the USGA. USGA is basically because of the U.S.
Open.

Speaker 1 USGA is basically the organization that keeps track of everyone's handicap in the entire world, basically. Got mine? Yeah.
What's your handicap? I haven't checked it. I think around 12, 11, 12.

Speaker 1 Pretty good. That's bad.

Speaker 1 That's not bad. What about you, Akush? I'm like an 8-2 right now.
Jeez. Really?

Speaker 1 I thought you quit.

Speaker 1 I just.

Speaker 1 I take enough swings where whenever I do do go out,

Speaker 1 I'm all right. You still get lessons? Good enough.
Yeah. So I go like

Speaker 1 once a week or once every other week to get 200 swings in. And then when I do go on the line.
Once a week you're going to a lesson and you have an 8.2. You're a golfer, buddy.

Speaker 1 That's a full-time golfer. He's a team bird now.
He doesn't have time for it anymore. T-Buttes just pulled up.

Speaker 1 11.4. Okay.

Speaker 1 Wow. So what do you shoot, Nick? If you go, what's the range that you can shoot? That's the problem.
I mean, I can 77 to 92.

Speaker 1 Which makes sense, because while you're 80, right? That's where you'd be sitting. Yep.

Speaker 1 Perfect range. 77 to 93, maybe? Yeah.
Or 83. Let's see where I'm at.
Yeah, I mean, typically I'm like 82 to 84. That's really good.
Somewhere in that range. It doesn't work completely.

Speaker 1 It's all based on how hard the course is, too. The slope.
Slope.

Speaker 1 So you can go shoot an 82, but it's at Oakmont, and they'll put you at like a 3.2. You're playing at Oakmont? No, but like hard courses.
There's hard courses in Arizona. Dude, Oakmont.

Speaker 1 There is hard courses in Arizona. This year.
Arizona's beautiful. The U.S.
opens at Oakmont. Oh, yeah.
I love that. That's East Hills of Pittsburgh, baby.
That's over by Plum. 8-5.
Wow. Hey, Quish.

Speaker 1 How do you know that? Kind of a bitch. That's kind of a stick.
All right, let's go enjoy New Orleans. We'll be back tomorrow.
Big time show. Hey, Q, great work today, buddy.
You really did good.

Speaker 1 Appreciate you, guys.

Speaker 1 Always fun. Good show.
Fourth year down here with you guys.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. How many years have we been here? A couple more, right? 19, 20 off.

Speaker 1 One, two, three. So we did Minnesota.
We did top golf in Atlanta. Yep.

Speaker 1 Miami. Miami, the little set.
Then it was COVID. COVID, then LA, then Vegas, then here.
So how many easy? No, Phoenix, Phoenix.

Speaker 1 Oh, Phoenix.

Speaker 1 Vegas. That's pickleball.
So how many easy? So I think Radio Row 19 was the first, right? But

Speaker 1 including the 17-18. That's crazy.
I think it's our fifth. I guess they said Mike and

Speaker 1 Mad Dog, Mad Dog and the Mike.

Speaker 1 Mike and the Mad Dog. Mike and the Mad Dog.
They created Radio Row. That's what people say.

Speaker 1 He would probably say that, I'm sure. I don't know if that's true.

Speaker 1 I don't know him well enough, but I guess they said they are the ones that kind of created Radio Row. I think that's kind of the notion, I think.
Oh, Marinsi.

Speaker 1 Well, we'll see about that.

Speaker 1 About that.

Speaker 1 Celebrate some ball. Being friends, tell a friend, something nice.
It might change your life. We're going to sing together.
We appreciate you all so much for allowing us to do this for a living.

Speaker 1 Team on me, team on three. One, two, three.
Team. See you tomorrow.
Goodbye.

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