PMS 2.0 1292 - Live From Super Bowl Radio Row in New Orleans, Fred Warner, Trey Hendrickson, Thomas Morstead, Pacman Jones, Chris Fallica & More

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to the Convention Center down here in New Orleans for Super Bowl 59. It's Wednesday, and this sports program starts right now.
Football! It is wonderful, and it is an absolute honor to be able to feel the buzz. It is palpable in New Orleans for the Super Bowl, which kicks off on Sunday at 6.30 between the AFC champion and also the back-to-back Super Bowl champion,

Kansas City Chiefs, led by Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey, and Taylor Swift. Ooh.
Yep. She's part of the fan base, and anytime she's part of anything, you obviously have to mention her name.
But on the defensive side, Spagnuolo, Chris Jones, and a litany of boys are ready to run wild in the Superdome. And then the Philadelphia Eagles led by Nick Sirianni,

who might not be a big dumb tip shit.

Potentially.

Might not be the dumbest guy in football,

like everybody on TV was saying for a large portion of this NFL season

with Jalen Hurts, who was throwing the ball all over the yard.

A man who was able to throw seeds if he had to,

even though all season long people have been saying Jalen Hurts can't. He can't throw the ball.
Can't throw a football. No.
Saquon Barkley can run, but the quarterback can't do shit. Who was saying that, AQ? Not sure.
You tell me. You and many others were saying that.
Saquon Barkley in an offensive line over there have a run game that reminds us of the good old days whenever football was ground

and pined all the

time. It's going to be a fantastic game

to wrap up this wonderful NFL season

and we are so incredibly honored to be a part

of this Radio Row operation.

You know, there's a lot of people that think Radio Row

is beneath them. Radio Row is the Super Bowl.

I don't fully understand

people that come to a city to do

media and don't come here. Foxy,

hit that top camera once again.

Look at this convention center.

It's a with podcasters, local radio, local TV, international TV, international podcasters, college kids. The future of media is here in every single one of the companies that pays money to the NFL throughout the season for commercials or for ad spots or for appearances.
They pay a bunch of people to come through here. So the amount of guests we're about to have over the next three days is about to be fantastic.
Today, Fred Warner. Yes, that Fred Warner.
Mormon, friend of program. San Francisco 49er madman linebacker will be joining us in this seat in a matter of moments.
And in the second hour, Trey Hendrickson, defensive end, pass rusher for the Cincinnati Bengals will be joining us. He doesn't wear gloves and he also doesn't talk to the media much.
So I had a chance to catch up with him just yesterday. He's a babyface assassin too.
Oh yeah. He looks like he's 13 years old, has 35 and a half sacks over the last two years, was the NFL sack leader in this particular season.
Now there's a contract coming up here for Trey Hendrickson. There's a lot of that in Cincinnati.
Can't wait to talk to him about the year that was in Cincinnati and also what his future looks like. And also, how's he not getting wrinkles in a high-stress position of being a pass rusher? It's about to be a glorious time.
I'm obviously not alone. The Toxic Table is here at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt.
Ty Schmidt, another radio row. How's it feel? It feels good to be back down here.
Yeah, it's unbelievable. I mean, you mentioned it.
You know, the buzz, the energy, it's palpable. We get pretty comfortable, you know, being in the Thunderdome, kind of doing our own thing, you know, just day after day.
Hey, let's grind these shows out. So getting down here and being in front of all these people, it's incredible.
And, you know, New Orleans, what a host city. What a host city.
What an unbelievable host city. What a beautiful place.
Gorgeous. Absolutely.
So much history here. So much history.
You know, I love the Cajun flavor. So being down here, we talked about it yesterday.
Our first radio row in Miami inside of a shoebox. Look at this set.
You know, we've come a long way. It's awesome.
The Foss ESPN Mystic Scene Set and all the people behind the scenes that set this up for us. It looks way too nice.
Incredible. Way too cool for something for us to be a part of, but we're very appreciative.
Also, shout out to... Oh, hell yeah.
Sweet unis. The Louisiana State Troopers.
Poison blue. They were in some clean-ass blues as we walked in here.
They said there's going to be something left on your set that you can't just buy. We just want to say thanks for spending time with us.
I guess they listen to us while they're in the cars. I think I'm learning about that a lot with State Troopers.
And also, we got this license plate. Shout out to the Troopers.
Shout out. Shout out to the Troopers.
Shout out. Shout out, Troopers.
First responders. You know, the whole thing.
We are very grateful. And thank you for welcoming us into the city.
We are very thankful to be here. Boston, Connor, you got a nice welcome last night down to the casino, pal, huh? Yeah, yeah.
Formerly Harrah's, now Caesars. It was fantastic.
You know, me and Ty, Dee Butch, a couple others, Foxy, we went over there, you know, just... Foxy made it out? Foxy made it out.
He's a liar. He's a liar, son of a bitch.
His eyes were barely open, but he was there in spirit either way, and you know, we had one very zany dealer who was kind of screwing around a little bit a little bit too much but one of the other dealers gave us a couple spots to go to he said look this is southern Detroit brother this is exactly the type of city you want to be in and I said hey that's perfect. What do you mean this is southern Detroit? People are just saying this is warm Detroit I know you said there's a lot of history in this city I would say sure I guess maybe there guess maybe there is because all the buildings are old and shitty.
But, again, I'm a huge fan. You have no respect.
You have no respect for anything. You're taking it wrong.
You're taking it wrong. We were just in Detroit in April for the draft.
I love that place. Great time.
It's awesome. Everyone was super nice up there.
That's not true, but everyone was super nice up there. Asheville, by far best draft ever.
I think they said there was like 2 million people there, but Detroit certainly held up their end of the board. Yeah, and this is just warm Detroit, and I'm pumped

to be here, and I'm excited for

the week that's going to be. I don't know who you're taking

a shot at there. Nobody.

Everybody. I think you guys are just making

it seem like I'm taking a shot. No winners in that scenario.

But I'm not. Yeah.
No one's

losing here. This is a fantastic place

to be. It's warm outside.
I mean,

you really can't ask for more in the casinos handing out money. Oh, yeah.
I heard you won last night. Congrats.
If this was all to get to that, congrats. We heard you won last night.
I was just telling you what I was seeing. We got the lay of the land.
We kind of know where we are now in the city. And again, I love Detroit.
New Orleans is just warm Detroit with a few more outdoor places to go. I love it.
Okay. All right.
That certainly sounds like the case. And shout out to you guys for making that happen going over there.
I took a nine-hour coma as soon as we got here. Smart.
It was a great way to start this Super Bowl week. Without a doubt.
Nine-year NFL vet looking as cool down here as he does at the Thunderdome. One of the biggest brains in football.
Hosted. Everything DB.
Good DB. Yes, sir.
Ladies and gentlemen, Darius D. Ball.
D.Botch. D-Botch, you look super cool, man.
Appreciate you. What's something we need to think about going into this game that maybe hasn't been chatted about, you think? I saw a cool stat.
You know, Spags gets talked about a lot, rightfully so, defensive mastermind, but Vic Fangio chasing his first championship as a defensive coordinator. His defense, 5-0 on turf, which the Super Bowl will be played on a Sunday.
What's that mean? What's that mean about that faster faster turf but I mean you know some of these stats you know they all mean something so I saw this one and now only giving up 11 points a game so we know Chiefs haven't been as explosive on offense so that's something I'm keeping an eye on you know those exciting whites back there got dogs up front dogs up and down that defense you know defense wins. So I'm excited about my Eagles and how they're performing.
Are you doing a postseason everything DB team? And is there maybe any Caucasians that might make it? We'll see. Some good ones.
There's some good ones out there. Bond's halfway there.
He might be defensive player of the year. We'll have Fred.
I'll probably ask him about Zach Bond. He's a running mate on that second level with the linebacker position.
But But, yeah, it may be a couple of athletic white guys that crack that team. Both these defenses are obviously incredibly well coached.
Oh, yeah. And they execute well.
We actually have a graphic about the amount of experience at the defensive coordinator position, and it is bananas. Whenever you have the top left corner there, it's Dick LeBeau.
Obviously, he's been around a long, long time. Feels like if you're a good defensive coordinator, you're going to have a job forever if you want it.
38 years of NFL experience for Paisano Fangio and 27 years of experience for Paisano Spagnuolo. Look at the 34 years of combined defensive coordinator experience on this.
The coaching staffs for both of these teams, elite. Even though everybody thinks Sirianni's a...
Just some big dumb dipshit. Yeah, he's not.
Everybody out there has got big brains. And the 5-0 on turf, the Eagles defense is suited for that because of how fast they are, or is this just – You know, it's one of those stats, you know, you can take it from, you know, grain of salt.
You know, it's the Chiefs, it's the Eagles, two very good teams. It's going to come down to the fourth quarter.
I think it'll be a close ball game. We know Spaggs, when all the marbles are on the table, he's probably going to bring some pressure.
His marbles, yeah. It's kind of, you know, keep everything in front, rally and tackle, and get after the passes.
So we'll see. Okay.
And, ladies and gentlemen, college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner, wearing a thick hoodie down here. Wow.
Which is a good move. Sway it out.
That's right. I'll sway it out.
That's right. I can't work out anywhere.
It's just walking around time, ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawker.
Hawker, you said something earlier that you said nobody's talking about it, but it's real, especially in this particular case. I feel like people are talking about it, at least to me, when they ask me who's going to win the game, random people will say, oh, are you one of those people that's against the Chiefs? You want the Chiefs to lose with the whole Taylor Swift situation? I think if the Chiefs do win this three, and they get this three-peat, the people that have been hating on the Chiefs, they can thank themselves because I think that's the motivation that they gave them.
I feel like when you've won two in a row, it's very easy to get comfortable and get complacent, I think, in that whole situation, and you need something to rally around as a team. So the Chiefs easily can feel like, hey, it's us against the world right now.
Everybody wants to beat us.

Everyone wants – they're watching the Super Bowl to see us lose.

Like back in the day, Floyd Mayweather.

Either you love Floyd Mayweather or you were watching to see him get beat.

I feel like that's where the Chiefs are right now. Yeah, and Floyd Mayweather utilized that in promotion and in motivation

and everything in the gym.

Also, the ref's getting added into it.

I feel like you heard Travis talk about how, like, hey, media people, okay,

you don't want to talk about how good we are. Okay.
You don't want to talk about how much work we've had to put in to be able to be in the place that we're in you don't want to talk about how talented this particular roster is or how lack of talent this roster has maybe compared to other people and how good of a football team we are i think they're using all of that shit all these people we hear about them at the top they're finding reasons finding reasons. It's the people that are walking around.
They hate the Chiefs on the internet because everybody sees everything. I think the refs' narrative has become one of the new ones as well.
A lot of people against the Chiefs, a lot of shit for them to draw inspiration from. Oh, yeah, and they don't even have to talk about it.
You know, like when a team collectively comes together and you have one common opponent or someone that you hate as a team together, like not one singular person. Could even be your coach.
Absolutely. Teams have definitely – there's a lot of motivation and hate.
That's the thing. You can't live on it, but it can wake you up early in the morning when you don't want to wake up if you truly despise what's going on or you feel like you're being painted in the wrong light.
I think the Chiefs right now feel like, hey, everybody wants us to lose. What better motivation than to go out there and win and stick it to everybody? Yeah, and it very easily could turn into a fist fight, you know, and get physical out there, especially with how tight it is.
I mean, it's going to come down to the trenches, always does. Ladies and gentlemen, 12-year NFL veteran Super Bowl championship.
Thank you. Thank you.
We're handing out the trenches this year. I don't know if you saw Deion Dawkins said he would like the NFL to acknowledge the best offensive lineman in the NFL.
Should probably do tackle and then interior. Probably do two awards if they're going to do it, so then it's not all tackle, tackle, tackle, tackle, tackle, tackle every single time.
Even though that particular position currently is talking about an interior offensive lineman, Joe Tooney, there's stats coming out now about Joe Tooney, about what he did in New England, now what he's doing with the Chiefs. He goes from Hall of Fame career inside out to the tackle.
Has he done anything that makes you think to yourself, maybe this Kansas City Chiefs offensive line is ready for this Philadelphia Eagles defensive line, or do you think the advantage in the offensive line is still heavily skewed into the Philadelphia Eagles' favor? Yeah, I think it's still heavily skewed. The Philadelphia Eagles have the best offensive line in football.
There's no question about that. Is there like a historic conversation with them or no? Well, listen, I mean, I think you've mentioned it so many times about the amount of yards that Saquon has before getting touched.
That speaks specifically to the offensive line. So they're phenomenal.
But when you talk about Joe Tooney and what he's been able to do, it's phenomenal. And for him to move out to tackle at being a 6'2 guard with shorter arms.
But listen, a lot of the credit has to go to Andy. A lot of the credit.
When you watch them, they are not putting him in drop back pass very many times. Chip, chip, chip, chip, chip.
They're running more RPOs than they've run all year in the playoffs. And that is literally he can come off and run block.
And then it's either a run or it's a pass. You saw the big play to Juju Smith last week.
And, you know, there's so many times that they're doing nakeds and rollouts, and then they're peeling the guard back and peeling the center back. So they're not putting them in bad situations.
That's because Andy's such a smart coach. Which is what you're supposed to do with your players.
Let's go to the other side. Coach Sirianni, he's the one that I allegedly, if you listen to Stoutland, say, you know what, we need to put Tony.
I'm sorry, we need to put Makai Becton, who has all the talent in the world, at 6'7". Let's try him out at guard and see if it works out.
It has. They've become the best offensive line in football.
He's become a person that that team revolves around and is like, I don't want to say banking on to have success, but yes, as opposed to a guy that got kicked out of town for not living up to the expectations of being a tackle. What a change in life for Makaihi Becton.
And allegedly that was Sirianni's kind of idea.

And then Stoutland's a perfect guy.

Yeah, I heard Stoutland say that yesterday.

And I was like, wow, what a move by Sirianni.

Because he's right.

I mean, I heard Stoutland also say, when you look at the history,

six, seven guards don't usually work out.

Like, you need to be low man wins in the interior.

You got to get underneath them.

And when you have him, he's a brawler.

And the one question mark coming into this season was that right guard position. And he solidified it.

So he'll be there forever.

And now will more six foot seven guys be guards?

Thank you. It doesn't matter how big you are if you're tall and you don't play low, but he is so physical.

So many of these big runs, he's climbing on a linebacker and just ejecting guys.

Yeah, and you talked about Saquon yards before contact,

which is certainly a compliment to the offensive line.

We got some new stats from Hembo on Saquon.

His average touchdown length this year, 32 yards.

What?

Good Lord.

That's absurd.

He's the only guy in NFL history. I don't know if we were able to get it up in time or not.
Yeah, here it is. Only guy in history who has 20-plus touchdowns, and the average length of the touchdown was more than 30 yards.
Now, this includes playoffs, 32 1⁄2 yards. And then the immediate thought is, well, you know who steals it all.
Yes. Bingo.
Jalen Hurts takes the two-yarders down there at the goal line so that then that isn't kind of offsetting the average. 32-and-a-half-yard average, D.
Butch. I mean, that's insane.
It's insane. Part of it, I mean, obviously is the offense line.
That's explosive. Only explosive.
His vision is crazy, yeah. Who has the second? Is the second place like 12 yards? 29, 1984, Mark Clayton.
1984, they were playing good ball. Yeah, they were.
They were playing good ball back in 1984. And Marino.
1989, Jerry Rice, and then Gil Sayers, 27 yards. So, I mean, there has been home run hitters, I guess, for 20-plus touchdowns throughout a season.
But if you're scoring on a 32-and-a-half-yard clip every single time, that is must-watch football.

I mean, that is must-watch football, and that's old-school football because it's an offensive line dependent upon you.

Now, Saquon's different, too.

Let's not.

Yeah, his vision.

Once he gets to the second and third level, like angles, safeties,

they're 15, 18 yards back, and he just outruns angles, breaks tackles.

His home run speed is unbelievable.

Just the total package that he has paired with his offensive line, unstoppable.

Well, his DBs don't want to make tackles.

No, they don't.

No, they don't.

No, no, Saquon.

I don't want to make that yeah they don't no they don't it speaks to jaylen too though you know kind of have to watch him like some of those middle backers who just fly over the top for saquon it's like well you kind of have to sit in the pocket a little and wait to see if jaylen's pulling that thing and taking it because he's had a few 40 yard touchdowns he started the playoffs this year with a 45-yard touchdown to kick off the entire thing. Yeah, Jalen's special, isn't he? He's playing a lot better.
Oh, geez. I will say this.
Listen, he does. Snip snap, snip snap, snip snap.
I think the most impressive thing that he's done since week five is not turn the ball over. He's been fantastic at that.
He's leading the team. He's obviously running, doing what he's done, and he's throwing the shit out of the ball.
I can't say anything else. Hey, let's talk about an awesome story that is in the middle of a terrible event, and this kind of popped across the news.
Our Twitter feed, our algorithm showed us this, and we just wanted to show love. Ten-year-old Trey Howard, okay, was near when the plane went down in Philadelphia.
Obviously, terrible tragedy. TZP's everybody involved in that situation.
In the middle of that, though, this dude right here laid and saved and protected his daughter as debris was falling after the plane crash. Dad explained that it sounded like there was a, like, metal things hitting cars and...
Trey here ended up with a piece of metal in his head. Okay? When this whole thing happens.
Goes to the hospital. Everything happens.
And then he comes out of it on Monday, I believe. Yeah, so they rushed him to the hospital.
He had to have emergency brain surgery. He comes out of it on Monday.
He comes out of it and he asks his dad what day it was. was his dad said it was monday and he was like did i miss the super bowl did we play yesterday and he said no you're fine we play next monday and then his second his second question was did he did he save his sister which he did um yeah the dad said it was like the it was like the the trap metal was like gunfire hitting his car and he took care of his other children.
The 10-year-old jumped on his sister.

Tyrese Maxey, his favorite 76er, came and visited him in the hospital.

It turned out being a great story for them.

That's like, and you never know what's going to happen,

but as a 10-year-old to go to protect your sister, just awesome.

Dog.

Troy, we appreciate you, buddy.

Hero.

We assume he's going to be going to the Super Bowl.

Yeah.

If he could travel, yeah.

We assume, yeah, if he could travel, he'll be going to the Super Bowl.

But I think his relationship with the Philadelphia Eagles is probably only beginning.

Yes.

Because there's not, I mean, just like to your point,

you always hope that in the moment of these situations you would act that way.

And I think there's even a show on ABC, guys have been hosting forever,

like, what would you do?

Where a candid camera, where they set up these situations,

and people can find out if in the moment of somebody getting robbed or somebody in front of you and it's all film does the person act how you know you would hope that that person would act you have no idea until a terrible situation pops up how you're going to do it as a 10 year old just to be like i got it like hey you're going to go on to do amazing things brother and uh we cannot wait to watch and know that what you're going through with the brain surgery and everything else is only going to set you up to do it. And, Trey, you're the best, bud.
We're lucky to be in the same world as you at the same time as you. And that's badass stuff.
That's awesome. That dad's got to be incredibly proud.
Yes. Like, hey, there's my boy here.
You almost get emotional whenever you think about the amount of pride that that dad had to have. His dad said he was super, like his dad said, you know, that's not his job.
That's my job. But he did it in that moment.
So, yeah, he was very – Hey, that's dope. Yeah.
Awesome. I like that that happened.
Especially, you know, Philly. Yeah.
Mm-hmm. Great.
That's right. Are they going to win a Super Bowl? Huh? I mean, they might.
They certainly might. There's a chance.
I mean, again, it's hard to bet against the Chiefs because it seems like for the last, I don't know, five years, that's all they do is they win and they win close games. It's kind of what I've thought the entire playoffs.
If you're going to beat the Chiefs, you have to beat them. You can't give them an opportunity late in the game for them to drive down and either kick a field goal.
If they're going to win this game, I think they have to win by 10 to 13 points.

But the way they've been playing, you know, who knows?

And, you know, we talk about the Chiefs having a chip on their shoulder.

Sirianni's been, you know, had shit talked about him all year.

Same with Jalen.

Like, this Eagles squad has a lot of chips on their shoulder as well.

Yeah, I think it's going to be a great game.

I think so.

Flip-flopping.

I think we're, yeah, me too. I woke up this morning, Eagles, and I went to bed Chiefs.
Like, I have no idea. So, since the NFC Championship, I've been on the Eagles.
I'm like, they can do it. They can do it.
Everything I believe is you've got to be tough. Like, that is my entire belief in football.
I think I don't care if it's 2025. I don't care if it's 2045.
If football is still being played and it is tackle, I think you've got to have a tough team. I just think that is because how long the season is, how the sport is, everything it involves, I think you've got to be tough.
And this is like, well, one of the toughest teams of all time. And it's like all Sirianni wanted his dogs.
Kibbles and bits were built. We are building a tough team, and they got it.
And it's like Saquon was the piece that really ignited this entire thing to another level. Saquon's very happy to be there and bought in so he's a dog as well.
Then, you know, you watch Travis Kelsey get pissed off that people are talking about the refs and it's like, hold the phone now. Now they got a little bit extra to AJ's point.
It's like, feels like Andy Reid and the boys are able to always win. And then you start looking at stats about Spagnuolo, he's like, he's four-time Super Bowl champion in his defense quarter for a reason.
In the biggest moments, he does not get scared at all. Nope.
He is emptying everything he has every single game, and his players love it. And his players love him.
And it's like, then you think about Andy Reid, he runs trick plays in the Super Bowl all the time. Like, he actually just runs shit.
So it's like, he's not scared of anything. And then Tobe, it's like, Bucker's been here, he's at a game winner.
Yeah. You know, it's like, that team, how do you say they're going to lose a game? I don't know how you say they're going to lose a game, especially the Super Bowl.
But then it's like, well, the Eagles are tougher. I don't know.
Every day. Yeah, there's a stat, too.
I saw it this morning where it's of the rematches in the Super Bowl between quarterbacks. The guy who won the first match is 4-0 in the second match.
The quarterback, you know, returning is never won. So it's one of those things.
Yeah, and then there's all the betting stats that contradict each other. Yep.
Like, hey, this happens if this happens. All 18 out of the last 19.
Yeah. And then on the complete opposite side, last seven straight times this and it's like, well, that doesn't tell us shit.
That doesn't tell us the damn thing. So I have no idea.
I think that's a good thing. Yeah, for sure.
I think that's a good thing. Joining us now might be a guy who might be able to give us a little more information.
His team's not here. His team had a season that I don't think anybody could have predicted.
Can't wait to get his kind of thoughts on it all. Ladies and gentlemen, four-time All-Pro.
Absolute stallion out of BYU. Linebacker for the San Francisco 49ers, Fred Warner.
Yeah, Fred. What's up, man? What up, bud? There you go.
Team, team, team, team, team, team. How you doing, Fred? Hey, at least stand up for him.
Yeah. He has to play for the Patriots.
I'm sorry. I don't care.
You guys walk four miles. Here you go, brother.
Hey, I'm great, too. Hopefully you didn't hear that.
Yeah, is that all right? It's wonderful. All right.
We should probably get that on the other side so it doesn't go across your body there. That's 100% on me.
We did not test that until right now. You're the first guest on.
Hey, thank you for joining us. Absolutely.
Thanks for having me. Okay.

So tell us about your work with Experian.

So I think if I remember correctly from watching, Experian's like, hey, they're auto paying the shit out of you right now.

Right?

That's their thing.

Yes.

And Experian's like, we can figure it out for you.

They're trying to save you time and money, which is what we all want, right?

Amen.

You download the app.

You can cancel your subscriptions that you don't use because everybody knows you.

You get on a subscription, you forget about it, and you're over here just reoccurring payments every single month, every single year. So they help you do all that.
They do all the work for you and help you save time and money. I think that was a pretty good promo there, buddy.
Yeah. Fantastic.
How did I do? That's pretty good. All right.
Right on the field. Yeah, thank you.
How many of these Experian interviews have you done? This is my first one. Crushed it.
Wow. Hey, you crushed it.
I don't know what the rest is going to look like because you're going to have to deliver with the same energy. Yeah, right.
But it is a good message. And I love it.
I think in the world that we're in currently, especially if it's like $3.99. Oh, yeah.
Something's like $3.99. If something is the same price as an express order on DoorDash, you're going to take it and then you're never going to see it again.
And these companies are just living off of it. Yeah, it just slides under the radar for so long, but then it just accumulates, accumulates, and then it's like, damn, I'm out.
I just spent $900 on something that I'm never going to use in my life. That's it.
We appreciate you joining us. And you talk about saving time and money.
We're just going to forget in the memory capsule last season. Fred, what? We.
Did you guys know about Christian? No. We had no idea, dude.
We had no clue. I think whenever that popped up out of nowhere for us, they were like Achilles arthritis, I think.
It pops up on both – on both. That came out of nowhere for us.
For you, if it came out of nowhere, obviously that's incredibly startling, but what is the mindset going into the season, and do you feel like that's just kind of what the season became? Yeah, I mean, it came out of nowhere for him, honestly. I feel like talking to him, I've talked to him throughout all the offseason since he's been here, and he felt great.
You know, we got married and was on cloud nine thinking that, all right, we're coming back to win a Super Bowl, coming off an offensive player of the year type of year last year. And so it was a shock to him, shock to us.
He's one of our best players, if not the best. And so I'm excited for him going into this season to just get back healthy, right, get back out on the field.
We need him. We need him in order to be successful.
You saw it. And then obviously dealing with a bunch of other injuries this past season, we just got to wipe that.
Put that away. That didn't happen.
Save time and money in your brain.

Save time and money.

Man, save stress off of my bag and just go ahead and eliminate that.

Okay, so it comes out of nowhere for him.

It comes out of nowhere for you guys.

And you said he's one of our best players, if not our best player. The reason why it's not easy to say best player is because you guys have so many good players.

So many good players.

Legitimately, that's why the season is we're watching along. That had to be, I don't want to say excruciating, but that had to be a miserable time.
I just punter on team. Just punter on team.
Whenever Peyton was quarterback and that whole crew was there, we went undefeated my first year until they chose to lose. Once again, I'm very small.
Then we went again. Then we went again.
And then we go 2-14 and almost lose every single game. Life is miserable whenever you're losing.
Then we get back to being good. And when Andrew gets there again, thank God Andrew comes in there.
But it's like when you're losing, life is terrible. You guys haven't experienced that much, right? Exactly.
It's different when you've only experienced losing because that's the standard. We've developed a standard of winning.
We've been to NFC championships year after year, two Super Bowls, obviously haven't surpassed the mountaintop to hoist that trophy, but we're so close, right? And so this was the season. This was the one we were going to do it.
And then all of a sudden everything falls into shambles, and it's like, damn, I thought we were past this. Like my rookie year, I think we only won like six games.
I thought we were past this. Hey, it's good for you, though.
Maybe long run you'll be able to look back on it. It sucks right now.
It humbles the hell out of you, and you learn from it, and then you grow from it to ultimately get back next year. Yeah, we can't wait to watch you guys back.
AJ has a question for you, Fred. First off, how's your ankle feeling? We know you played the whole year on this fractured ankle.
When did it happen, how did it happen, and how were you able to actually play through it and have such an unbelievable year? Yeah, I appreciate it. It happened in week four against the Patriots.

You know, it was a simple ankle sprain that happened to pull the bone, you know,

and it's just one of those nagging things.

Because injuries, it's like, all right, they're either bad enough to keep you off the field

or just good enough so you can keep playing, right?

So it was one of those things where I was good enough to just keep playing

and try to work through it. Did it get better as the year went or worse? I would imagine worse.
Yeah, what are you doing? Are we doing needles? Are we doing acupuncture? Yeah, I won't get into the specifics, but there was a lot of behind-the-scenes work to get you ready for a game, right? You're doing urine baths? You said what? What? Urine baths? Yeah. That's what you were doing? Yeah.
I was not doing it. I don't know.
I mean, Stephen's on drugs. Nah, I was good.
I'm just saying, people, no stone left on turn, you know. To get healthy? How you got to fill a bathtub with pee? You tell us.
From what I heard, they go, just one foot in and one foot out and one foot in. Don't shake it or splash it.
No, yeah, you shake it. What are you shaking? You get the mist.
Okay, good. I didn't do this.
I'm just saying there is a lot of weird things people do to try to get back to being healthy. We'll see what the hotel room is talking about tonight.
I might, you know, try that out. What about those seats in the corner? We don't have to talk about it.
But so whenever we're talking about the angle, what was it? Did you do like what was the every day was trying to get that thing healthy, right? I mean, every day, you know, you're trying to obviously get it to a good enough spot to then go out and perform at your best on Sunday. Hey, we appreciate your seeing this.
But it's not just me, man. That's what everybody does.
It's the NFL, man. Not everybody.
Listen, you need to know that if that's happening with everybody in your locker room, you need to be pumped. And you need to bottle that.
Sure. Because there's some places it's not happening.
I hear you. Darius has a question for you.
People, coaches always talk about, you know, this game, you know, trying to make it just another game. What was your experience like compared to your first Super Bowl to your second Super Bowl as far as the preparation and actually playing in the game, like everything that leading up to it and actually when that moment is? Yeah, I mean, it was super helpful my first time around having a guy like Richard Sherman who had been there 1-1 and, you know, to pick his brain about how to approach the game.
So I did. I felt like I went to the end of the game, you know, well-prepared, thinking about the game the right way, had an interception in the game, and late in the game I'm thinking, oh, man, I'm about to win Super Bowl MVP.
Like, we finna win. We up by, what, 10 points in the fourth quarter? Not a lot of time.
And then things unfolded how they did. So then I learned from that experience, like, man, you better not get too high on your horse before the clock hits triple zero yeah and I feel like I did I carried that over into the second game right where I stayed even killed but I we had this situation with Dre Greenlaw where he tears his achilles crazy and it was just such an emotional dump like it was I mean going in at halftime seeing him like going through it was just a lot.
And then, obviously, it was a long game because you go into overtime and you have to try to be one of the best to ever do it in overtime. And so, it just didn't go our way.
Yeah, on that, Diggs has a question for you. Yeah, you talk about that overtime game last year.
And I was watching a little bit of it back yesterday. And the Chiefs, they just do so much off of the same formation.
And a lot of teams do that now. But the Chiefs do it do it a ton they do it a lot in the playoffs and it's a lot of pat on the edge on short yardage like going back do you like your game plan last year and what do you think the Eagles game plan could or should be going into this one to just you know try to slow that Chiefs offense down yeah I mean I loved our game plan I thought we came out hot I mean you got you got to remember, if you go back a year ago in that playoff last year, we were getting a lot of heat defensively because of the way we were playing the run game against the Packers, against the Lions.
You know, they were running through us, right? And so we were going into the Chiefs game with a huge chip on our shoulder because nobody gave us a chance to halt Patrick Mahomes in the Chiefs offense. And so we came out humming, I felt like we played well for three and a half quarters until it wasn't.
So that's the Super Bowl, man. You've got to keep your head down and stay present in the moment all the way through to the very end until the clock hits triple zero to hoist that trophy at the end.
Yeah, Patrick's special though, huh, man? He's all right. It's crazy.
It does feel like there's just some people that just have, like, the it thing. Got the it.
Yeah, there's such thing as, like, having been there, done that, and being able to win the big game. And he's been able to do that, obviously, over and over again.
Travis Kelsey, this guy. He's pretty good.
Why? Why is he so good, do you think? Now, obviously, George Kittle, we are big fans of top of game, too. Like, let's not just – we're not going to act like there's what Brock Bowers seemingly about to go.
Yeah. Like, there's a lot of incredible.
But Travis Kelsey, for how long he's done it. Exactly.
And everything he's done in playoffs, he's going to go down goat conversation. For good reason, by the way.
For sure. Ohio guy.
But what is it about him? He just runs his own shit, they say. There you go.
I mean, it's honestly his mind. I don't know what he thinks about.
I don't know how he approaches the game. But the savvy that he plays with is unlike any other tight end.
Because when you go and you watch a tight end all week long and preparing for the guy, you're like, okay, he runs his corner route like this. He's going to run a corner route or he's going to run an in route.
With Travis, he might have a corner route on, but he'll run a post. You know what I'm saying? Or he'll just kind of find some space and just sit down.
And then you think you've got him in coverage, and then he just works away from you. So he catching the ball.
So he's like a hooper. He's a hooper.

It really feels like he's a hooper. He's a hooper.

And he talked a little trash, too.

So then he getting in your mind game, too.

So it's like, dang, do I talk trash?

Do I not talk trash?

So, hey, if Travis here.

No, I don't talk no trash, man.

I just go out there.

I play the game, baby.

You said if Travis here, you're about to send him a message.

I was about to hear you're about to trash talk.

Hey, listen, hopefully it's his last season. You season.
He retires, goes off into the sunset, and we ain't got to deal with him. It's not.
He said he's back three years, maybe four years, maybe five years. He just keeps going and going.
Speaking of next season, though, Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Fred, a few years with different defensive coordinators, and now you guys are bringing back Bob Sala, who, you know, obviously he's running stadiums, he's doing all that cool shit.

How do you feel about him coming back?

And you think that is kind of like a consistency that you'll get back in the

building after having those years of different coaches?

Yeah, super excited, man.

I love Sala, love everything about him.

He was one of the few coaches that the draft process is horrible,

unless you're like the first overall pick maybe.

I don't know how it is for those guys in the first round. They might get talked up.
But for a guy like me who's trying to prove himself. You're a third-rounder, by the way.
I was a third-round draft pick, but I had a bunch of teams telling me, like, oh, you can't do this, you're not this, you're not that. And then I took my 30 visit with the Niners, and I'm in there with Coach Salt, and he's obviously like, man, I really like your game.
Like, this is how I see you playing in our system. And this is the first time I'm hearing these things.
So I'm like, man, this guy goes solid. He's the best.
And so they draft me, and I'm super excited. And then just had all the belief in the world to stay with me, even through a rocky rookie season as a starter, you know, and see it through.
But, man, I love them. Happy to be back with them.
You're conditioning seemingly better than everybody. You're all over the place.
I try. It is insane to watch you fly around.
So is that all year? Are you taking time off after season? What is the – how do you get to the – Yeah, no, I mean, I'm on that treadmill tonight. As soon as I get back to the hotel, man, just getting back in.
No, I'm just playing, bro. You've got to take some time away.
You've got to take some time away, do stuff like this with you, man. Come on, and also save people time and money.
Time and money with Experian. Download the app today.
Where's the camera? Either one of you want. What camera am I looking at? Hey, Experian, let's give some more money at Warners.
Yeah. Come on.
You're doing a great job. You're living his life in a commercial.
Hear this promo? We'll get another commercial going soon. Don't worry.
And then another one. And another one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's such a good product.
Absolutely. And you're such a good representation of it.
Thank you. Obviously, time and money, you want to save that? You pay the money to Fred, and he'll speed things up.
This dude never stops. No, he doesn't.
Hey, you're a maniac. I went to that, what was it, the Seahawks game.
Yeah. The Seahawks-Niners game.
And I'm up in a booth with Kirk and Al, okay, because we were doing game day somewhere. So it was just like, stop at the Seahawks game.
Never been there before. I want to see what it is.
Bosa looks like a jungle cat. Yep.
He literally takes up like an entire five yards somehow. That's 15 feet.
I don't know how he it's like, holy shit, this thing is much bigger in person than you could ever imagine. And then he is just a thousand miles an hour.
And then you said you don't talk trash. You guys all talk trash.
Now that I'm thinking back, your entire defense chirps. Yeah, there's a little bit of an alter ego there, I'll say.
You just lied, though. I literally just had to relive this.
Yeah, I know. Because the reason why, remember I came back and I was like, they're fast, they all talk shit.
Everybody literally talks shit. You said Super Bowl immediately.
Yeah, I said, this is going to be going to Super Bowl. But, like, is that defense the same? Like, Salah's going to be able to come back and you guys are just, have you been running the similar defense, same defense with the crew because of the people you have?

Because you have pillars on that defense seemingly everywhere

that we see every single season.

Yeah.

So is it the same defense?

It's a similar scheme, yes.

You've got to continue to try to evolve, obviously,

so teams don't just pick up on what you're doing and just attack you.

But similar scheme will make some adjustments, though, for sure.

NFC West is only getting tougher.

That's right.

It is.

It is. Yeah, I know.
It's tough. You guys were the Kings for a long time.
Remember that? Kind of. Don't worry.
I know. I know.
You hate her. Don't worry about that.
What's your relationship like with Brock Purdy? Because we've been big fans of his, and for the last several years, regardless of what he's done on the field, it's kind of been hey this guy stinks they have Christian McCaffrey they have George Kittle they have all these weapons and even last year now everyone's saying like hey you can't pay this guy the Niners can't pay this guy they were in their window when he wasn't making anything have you noticed him kind of take more of a leadership role because everyone talks about how he's just quiet kind of docile played at Iowa State what State. What's your relationship like with him, and have you noticed, like,

has he kind of taken that next step?

Yeah, I mean, anybody who listens to me knows that I love Brock Purdy.

You know, I love everything about him, the way that he's made up,

the player that he is, his story.

I mean, that's my thing is, like, how can you hate on a guy

when he has a story that he's had and the success that he's brought to our team

as mystery relevant, last pick in the draft, right?

Like, I don't know of anybody else who's been the last pick in the draft and has been a starter, even a starter for a football team, nonetheless a franchise quarterback. You know what I'm saying? And he took a huge leap this year in leadership, I think, just being in command of not only the offense but the team as well.
You know, and so, I mean, he's been awesome, man. The sky's the limit for this kid.
I can just go all day with him, but he's been on my way. What are you talking about here? John Deere tractors?

What do you think of that

picture right there? Oh,

we were talking about the good old Bible

right there. Really? No, I don't know.

I don't know.

He is a man of God, man.

Okay, how does that work? How does that work? Mormons versus non-Mormons.

But generally,

we got to get Kyle on. We can have a full discussion

about it. I have massive respect to the Mormons, massive respect to all hey listen what somebody's gonna be right can't wait you know like uh and hopefully it's it's the side that you're on but like and all that legitimately that's how I feel and uh I have nothing but respect for the Mormons because Austin Cawley I think I've told this story before Austin Cawley and I got drafted in the same class even though he's 14 years older than me me.
That's right. You know.
Yes, I know how it goes. The entire thing.

But he was married, had a family.

He was awesome.

And who was going to be the president?

Mitt Romney.

Mitt Romney was going to be the president.

And I knew nothing about Mormons.

I'd never met a Mormon.

I'm from Pittsburgh and went to West Virginia.

So I literally just, through one conditioning period with Austin Cawley,

30 minutes, I'm like, I just want to hear it.

I just want to hear it.

What are we all?

And it's just like, okay.

He broke it down, dude. Broke it down, yeah.
Okay. But I do not know the ins and outs of it totally.
Yeah. You and Brock Purdy.
30 minutes. I'm like, I just want to hear it.
What are we all? And it's just like, okay. He broke it down, dude.
Broke it down, yeah. But I do not know the ins and outs of it totally.
You and Brock Purdy. Nobody does.
Well, that's a problem. John.
John. Joseph.
Joseph. Austin, obviously, they do a great job.
No, no, years ago. That's like the basic fundamental.
Yeah, that's the bottom line. That is how you get into this entire thing.
Locker room, though. Everybody likes each other? Yeah, absolutely.
A lot of superstars, right? Oh, yeah. A lot of egos.
A lot of superstars. Too many.
Too many, some say. Yeah, no, no, no.
We won't say that. You got to have ego, all right, if you want to be the best in the game.
There's got to be a little bit of that. But inside the locker room, I feel like everybody's great, man.
Everybody's homies. Everybody, you know.
You got cool dudes. Chop it up.
Yeah, we got cool dudes all over. AJ has a last question for you here, Fred.
What about John Lynch? How involved is he day to day? And do you guys and the rest of the players on your staff know how good of a player this dude was? Now, he was an absolute headhunter back there. When you could take dudes' heads off at the safety position? Yeah, we wouldn't know unless Kyle Shanahan played clips of it in our team meetings.
Really? Yeah, you know, there's been times

I don't know if it's offseason, inseason where

you know, John might talk to

the team and then we'll play a little clip of him.

Back in the day, just beheading cats.

He gets like an entrance video?

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Entrance video.

I mean, rightfully so. It's John Lynch.

And it's like crazy to even think like John Lynch

is your GM, you know what I'm saying? But that just tells you everything

you need to know about who he's looking at the roster roster and to the team, what type of players that we want because of how he played. I also like to count Shanahan's like, hey, just for you that are in the room that do not know what this particular – I mean, we've got kids who were born in the 2000s now.
It's like they don't even know what – Hey, you see this – Why is the film grainy? You see this bland-looking white right here in this suit?

You see what's going on here?

Let us remind you real quick.

This guy, he's in two ring of honors.

He's a gold jacket.

Hall of Famer.

Yeah, he's two ring of honors.

Good enough career in two different places.

Yeah, greatest of all time.

Threw the first pitch in the history of the Florida Marlins franchise as well.

There we go.

Wow.

Yeah.

Hashtag. Hashtag.
Stat that. Stat that.
You know who he's doing. Yeah, actually, you should drop that to John Lynch in the negotiation process.
Every year you guys have some contract thing. Yes.
That's what happens when you have really good players. Because of everything we're talking about.
Right. How do you guys handle it? Like when somebody – there was a lot of those videos.
Old Buddy was just walking around. Ayuk.
Ayuk was walking around practice with around practice with a backpack. And this was the stories.
We were talking about what's going to happen today on the Ayuk front. Because he was maybe going to be a stealer.
He was maybe going to be a patriot. So he was in our world a lot.
And it felt like pretty big news, too, what was happening. So whenever he's just showing up at practice, and then we're trying to guess what the conversations are.
Locker room is like, hey, you've got to do your business. And as soon as he's back, all good.
That's it. That's how you guys view it.
Yeah, it has to be. Because at the end of the day, the whole business side, nobody knows outside of football how that whole business side goes.
It gets, you know, obviously both sides are competing to see, obviously I want the most versus I want to give you the least, right? And so it's like at the end of the day, you've got to come together in consensus to get something done that both sides can agree on. The players have nothing to do with that, that are not involved in the deal, you know, and that's their situation.
Let them handle that. And then when he gets back, welcome to open arms and let's get to work.
Okay. That's good because I think we said that that's probably exactly how it went.
But, boy, whenever he was bopping around that practice, that was awesome. Yeah.
That was an awesome day on the Internet. Yeah, he had to change his shorts at one point.
Yeah, that was awesome. There's so much drama from us, you know.
Outside looking in, especially with how the year was going. D-Bud has a question for you.
Yeah, I just want to ask, which way are you leaning? It's early in the week. I know you're more familiar with these teams than we are.
Which way are you leaning if you are leaning a certain way? Yeah, no, I mean, if they could both lose, then that's where I think that would ultimately be the best result possible, right? I don't know. I don't know, man.
I mean, there's something to be said about having been there and done it. But the Eagles are loaded.
I think it's going to be a great game. I don't know who's going to win.
But it's going to be a good one to watch. So when you play a team like the Eagles, like with Saquon doing what he's doing, do you think – okay, you're the right person to ask this question to as I'm fully prepared this entire interview on what I should ask you.
Sure. We think run game becoming much more prevalent.
Yeah. It's like cyclical happening right in front of our eyes, right? Yeah, it's a cycle.
Went through pass game, which I think you benefited from because you were fast. You could run side to side.
So I think linebackers had to get smaller because they had to be able to take over. You call me small? Yeah, that's what he did.
Smaller. Smaller.
Alright. How much do you weigh? How much do you weigh? 235.
Okay, Erlacher was like 265 or something. Oh yeah, no, no, no.
So it's been a dramatic change. I think AJ was playing at like 245, 250 or something.
Okay, early on, yeah. Yeah, so it was big.
You had to be big because you were hitting, hitting, hitting. There you go.
A lot more running these days. Then it got spread out.
You've got to be able to run. For sure.
Now there's teams that are trying to take advantage of maybe the size of that and run games coming back. You guys can feel that in your game planning week to week and everything like that? Yeah, I mean, I think for forever in time, the run game's got to be there in order to open up the pass game.
For that to be effective, you have to have an effective run game. And I know for a fact that our offense, you know, according to you, for as long as I've been here, I've heard Coach Shannon talk about how important the run game is.
So, I mean, it is cyclical, though.

You know, I think it is a matter of smaller guys playing out there on defense.

You want to take advantage of that.

So then you get bigger guys and then you spread it out a little bit more.

So it's just going to continue to just go around in a circle.

Are you an NBA fan?

A little bit.

You know, but I saw the news.

Luca.

Yeah.

You're a huge fan. Of? I see the basketball at your feet.
No, it's because there's a hoop over here. You want to try to give away some money? Give away some money? Yeah.
Sure. All right.
You'll get a chance to shoot. All right.
I might make myself look a little silly right here, but I don't mind. Bad balls.
Oh, no. Oh, no.
Maybe throw the football. Too light? Yeah, it's too light.
Way too light. Way too light.
I think you're going to. How about you give a shot? No, your granny shot.
No, give a shot. No, your granny shot.
You have four opportunities. Four opportunities? Yeah.
I can't just do a regular shot from right here? He can do whatever the hell you want. You can do whatever the hell you want.
Watch out for the light. I think that's going to be eight.
Ah, yeah. What about those white eights? Line driving.
Liner. Yeah, yeah.
I think what you are attempting to do right now is going to be very difficult. You got it.
Is that boat really? It's Fred Warner. It's Fred Warner.
Liner. Okay, okay.
It's light. It's light.
It's light. It's light.
It's light. Okay.
All right, Fred. Fred, if you're able to make this shot right here, okay, we will give 30 people $500.
Woo! Wow! To repost this video, say something nice to somebody, and put the easiest way to pay them. Shout out to Fred and Experian if that happens.
This is on the X account, the platform formerly known as Twitter. Okay, good.
Fred, you do a lot of social? I'm not big on the socials, no. You dance on TikTok? No, I don't do the TikToks.
You do your dance? You're a good American. Here we go.
30 people. 30 people.
Oh, yeah. Oh.
Oh. Oh.
Oh. He got robbed.
Right. What? Oh, my.
There's no weight in the ball. Oh.
It's that one's going in. I'm telling you.
That was close. It's a bad ball.
Oh, my goodness gracious. All right, Fred.
Here's the thing. If you make it.
Let's double it. Come on.
Whoa. All right, Fred.
Fred, we'll match. This is all part of the plan right here.
Shout out to experience. Ladies and gentlemen, shout out to experience.

You want to say time and money, download the Experian app today.

Shout out to Fred Warner delivering that message.

Come on.

Fred, if you make that ball into that hoop right over there,

we'll give 50 people 500.

Wow.

All they'll have to do is repost this video, say something nice to somebody,

and put the easiest way to pay them on X.

And if you make it, I think they'll say, wow, Fred Warner is a hero. I think they'll say, wow, Experian is such a good app.
How convenient is that? Not only did I win $500, I saved $500 from Experian. Wow, that's what you could do for 50 people who win $500.
Fred! Everybody got their cameras out for this right here? There is a big camera on you right now. Uh-oh.
Uh-oh. Oh, you got two jacked up.
You're two jacked up. We've seen that a thousand times.
We've seen that a thousand times. We said I was going to have four tries, though.
So same deal. Same deal.
Run the tape. Run the tape, man.
Run the tape, man. No, I agree.
I agree, but you're saying same deal. We'll jack it up a little bit more then.
A little higher. Oh, that's not out.
We're not worse. Save time and money.
You're right. You're right.
You've got to spend money to save money. Yeah.
Okay. Well, not with experience.
No, no, no. All you've got to do is download the app.
That's it. Just the app, and you're good.
Ladies and gentlemen, a four-time All-Pro linebacker,

Fred Warner from the San Francisco 49ers,

here with our friends at Experian.

Yep.

What a great app.

Great commercial, too, honestly.

Thank you, man.

I appreciate it.

Made me want to go get it.

I already have it.

I got the boost, too.

Experian boost.

What?

Wow.

Yeah, your credit score.

Quick boost instantly.

Also, my credit file is locked, so nobody can steal my identity. You got that? Yeah, I got the, yeah.
Put your phone down. Get downloaded.
Yeah, it's already on. It's already on there.
For sure. Fred, if you're able to make this shot for the good people and experience, 100 people will win $500.
What? Holy shite. Here on our first day down on Radio Row.

Fred, you could be a hero to 100 people.

Wow.

Wow, 100 people.

This was all a part of the plan, by the way.

I've been missing on purpose to try to get you to do this.

Oh, you said let me throw this one through the backboard on the last one

because you knew something bigger was coming.

100 people, $500.

Shout out to Experience.

Saving you time and money. We got to get you on a commercial, by the way.
No, thank you. Oh! This guy sucks! Yeah, please.
Oh my God! Alright, we'll just do it anyway. How about that? That's not how it works! Winners and losers! Fred, if you were to shoot one more time You think you would make it? I got a football over You're done with it I mean, I'll do it again Do you think you would make it? I think you will Absolutely Yeah, okay You gotta splash it You gotta splash He makes the football Fred, this was the plan You gotta bank it in This was the plan all along The plan was to build A little bit of hype, a little bit of excitement.
Right in your shooting pocket. A little bit of wonder.
He's Fred Warner, four-time All-Pro. Going to be able to bury a basketball shot here down at Radio Row for Super Bowl 59.
If he is able to do it, very light ball. That ball is tough to control.
Slick. Keep talking.
Very slick. Just one gust of through here, and that thing will be blown off course.
This guy sucks. To be honest, yeah.
I've hit it in the same exact spot. To be fair, there are jingle bells on the rim.
Sure. Yeah, you know what? That does make it more different.
It's a combination of a lot of things. That's New Orleans.
I think mostly because I can't shoot. But all the other factors are part of it.
You know what you can do? You can spread a great message on saving time and money. That's right.
And that's what I learned today. Thank you for revisiting the worst year since your rookie year.
Thank you. With us today.
I know that's not funny. 2020 wasn't good either.
As you were giving answers. For anybody.
Not just you, man. I know that 2020.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
It was all of us. We'll remember it forever, but yeah.
Yeah. You're 100% right.
Yeah, Fred. Yeah.
That's why he was.

Thanks.

What do you think?

That's a good call.

Yeah.

Yeah, I guess football-wise.

Football wasn't too bad.

It wasn't too good either, but the actual.

We appreciate the hell out of you, man.

Thanks, brother.

Hopefully we get a chance to catch up soon.

And we all know next year is going to be much different than this past year for the Niners.

For sure.

And we're sorry you had to go through that, but the sun is brightest. Before the darkest dawn.
After the darkest dawn. Well, you get it.
Yeah, you never know. You got the main part in there.
It kind of works both ways. Well, the thing about it is I think it gets, the reason why is because you've experienced the darkest.
Sure. So now anything would be the brightest.
Practicality, though, what if it's a cloudy day? Never. Yeah, you're Red sky morning, you know.
Sailor take warning. Red sky at night.
Sailor's delight. We know it all.
And we know that you know ball. Ladies and gentlemen, Fred Warner.
Thank you. Oh, yeah, Fred.
Fred. We know it all.
That was shit. 2020 year was tough.

2020 year, he wasn't wrong.

2020 wasn't a good year.

Come to New England.

We needed that reminder, too.

Think about it.

Think about it.

Vrabel's cool.

See you later, Fred.

All right, Fred.

Work on that job.

Save time and money, Fred, with experience.

Careful with that rope. That was really good work.
Thank you, Shipley. Will rejoin us out here.
I think Experian's going to be pumped that they got me. He's really good at selling the product.
Like, he honestly, like, I understand why they hired him. You know, have I ever met a Mormon that isn't good at talking? No.
Good point. That's a good question.
I just learned a lot about the Mormons in American Prime Evil.

Oh, yeah.

Some bad people.

Just throwing that out there.

They killed a lot of people.

Some of them are some bad people.

I think religion kills a lot of people.

They killed a lot of people.

Joe Smith was a bit of a savage.

Really?

Yeah, on the battlefield.

I did not know anything. That is what American Prime Evil is? Yeah.
Oh, yeah. They're a big part of it.
They were a gang and not a good one. Okay.
Because there is good gangs. Of course.
Yeah, there is. The Teamsters.
Okay. All right.
What are we talking about? Welcome back, AQ Shipley. Alan Quay.
What's that being said? What's up, boys? That was great. I thought so, too.
What'd you take away from anything when you were listening in the back? What do you think people watching at home are like, ooh, fascinating there? They didn't know about Christian McCaffrey. I think that's a big deal.
Well, he doubled down on, you know, it works in cycles. I think that's coming.
I don't know when it's coming. But the big boys are coming back.
You think? Yeah, I think everybody's starting to run the shit out of the ball. It's going to happen in the next five years.
We've got to start getting bigger. I think it's going to be with the modern athlete.
Every combine, there's a new fastest human. Every combine, there's a new biggest guy to jump that high.
So I think we're going to be able to have the size to stop the run game, and I think there's going to be guys that can still fly. I think this linebacker position is going to be awesome to watch going forward, especially if they're going to have to thud.
You've got to be able to do it all. You used to be able to get away with being like an in-the-box backer every once in a while.
Now there's no purely in-the-box back where I'm just going B-gap to B-gap. You've got to be able to do everything.
I think you're still going to have to, even though the big boys are coming back. They're just looking for matchups.
Hey, if you're trying to play nickel against us all day, we're going to put some big dudes in. We're going to overpower you.
They just want to get matchups. Darius, you weren't scared to tackle.
That's why I saw your body lifeless on a couple fields. That was part of it.
That was a stinger. I'll do it all again.
A stinger, shoulder, shoulder. You know, throw the 185 around.
That was not a stinger. So, hey, take this man off the field right.
That's a good teammate. Shout out Ewell.
Shout out to Ewell, yes. But DBs are going to have to – I mean, that's going to become more and more and more and more and more.
Probably not that, you know, DBs. There's corners.
There's outliers. I think I'll watch through, like, NFL films to show me something, and it'll be like, like, Deion will go make a hit.
But we're not looking to do that every single day. No, no, no.
That is not the thought. There's going to become times now where the nickel is going to be expected to make a tackle on a very high percentage of plays.
Oh, yeah, nickels are starters now. And when you come in as a nickelback, you're replacing a backer.
And the best run teams on offense, they force the guys on the edge to make tackles. You know, they'll crack block.
The best teams have good blocking receivers, so they'll go and block a safety and just leave that cornerback unaccounted for. And you can see the cycles with the numbers of carries.
Like last year, I don't think it was one back that had 300 carries. And this year, we had five or six.
All the guys that move around got paid. They did well in their new spot.
So, yeah. Guys get drafted higher in the position again.
Gibbs, you see what he's been able to do. So, yeah.
It's definitely coming back around. I think so, too.
What was the stat Hembo told us? Like 715 rush attempts, 519 pass attempts for the Philadelphia Eagles. They are very much a run-heavy offense.
And they happen to have the best offensive line in the game. Well, I think, too, just to piggyback off what DB says, right, I think there's so much speed on the outside that it forces teams into too high.
When it's too high, we're hammering the run all game long. And then once you start hammering the run game all game long, now safety's down in the box, and then we throw it deep.
I'm impressed with Kelly Moe being disciplined, sticking with the run game. Especially because that was not the story about Kelly Moe.
I know Kelly Moe. He wants to run the scoreboard.
Trying to get a head coaching job. I've been there before.
You take care of the program. You take care of the football.
Jalen Hurts, seven postseason games, no interceptions. So you take care of that football and play good defense.
Usually a good recipe. On that note with Jalen Hurts and Patrick Mahomes and the run game, ladies and gentlemen, it's time for AP Tone's Battle of the Day.
Tony! Tony! AP Tone's Battle of the Day. Yeah, yesterday we talked about a player on each team to get a catch on their first drive.
We love the tight ends. We talked about Goddard.
We talked about Kelsey. We talked about how the history was there.
Today's

bet is going to be about the fourth quarter

and the quarterback rushing yards. Patrick

Mahomes over under fourth quarter rushing yards

four and a half. Jalen Hurts over under

six and a half in the fourth quarter.

Wow. Over.
There are so

many ways. Yes.
Over. Feels like it

all day. Hey, scary though.

You never know. The kneeling

out. That is the one way to lose this because we've seen it.
They take the kneel, especially if there's too much time in the clock and they're trying to waste time and they've got to go back 10 yards or whatever. But both these guys, like we've seen Mahomes in the fourth quarter a thousand times, whether it's a pass play and he's flushed out and he runs for a fourth down.
Way over. Or I talked about it with Fred.
Third and one, fourth and one, they are always putting Patrick on the edge. Run pass option.
He is easily getting the four and a half there. And Jalen, a little bit different.
He will take off and run in the pass game. But he could have three or four scheduled called runs.
Hey, Kews, how do you feel about that? Touch pushes. I didn't even think about touch pushes.
That picks it up by itself. The reason why that was the bad of the day, I think, is because when Tone presented it, we all said, that seems too easy.
Doesn't that feel too easy? 100%. Yeah, he's going to break some contain and tightrope the sidelines, and they're not going to hit him.
He might get it just on the extra four yards he gets on the tightrope that he takes advantage of the rules. Well, even Mahomes last time they played the Eagles, he had the ankle, and that was the story.
He got tackled in the second quarter, first quarter, was super injured, and was like, oh, okay, so Mahomes can't move. And then on their game-winning drive, he escaped for like 25 yards at the middle of the field because they weren't watching him.
And that would be easy over. Also, it's the Super Bowl.
So fourth quarter, let's assume both these guys are going to do anything they possibly can. Yep.
And they're going to be scrambling for their life, either to catch up or to extend the clock. I mean, it's just like.
He's going to get flushed naturally, too, with Phillies into your D-line. He's going to get flushed a little bit and have to run.
Hey, that was AP Tones. Better than 10.
Yeah, good bet, Tony. What's the worst that could happen? Well, they probably changed the odds on it.
Minus 110 for that, seemingly, how we all feel. Yeah.
Good odds. And now, remember, we did have a parlay a couple years back where all we needed was Batch Mahomes to throw for like

220 yards or something. He had like three touchdowns

and somehow only threw for 170 or

something. Yeah.
Burrow the year before.

Yeah. So everything

always looks obvious. It does.

Which is why we're saying that's not a guarantee there.

No. But we like it.

No such thing as better. We like it a lot.

We like them both.

The big game is almost here and it's your last chance to get in on the action. Don't miss out on the final football game of the season with PrizePix, the best place to cash in on the big game.
The app is really simple to use. Pick two or more players across any sport.
Pick more or less on their projection, and you can win up to 1,000 times your money. Join PrizePix, America's number one daily fantasy sports app available to play in more than 40 plus states, including California and Texas.
Join now because PrizePix is giving away a free pick for the big game where a quarterback will only need to throw one yard to win. PrizePix, the best place to cash in on the big game.
Download the PrizePix app today and use code TPMS, that's code TPMS on Price Picks and get $50 instantly when you play $5. That's code TPMS on Price Picks to get $50 instantly when you play $5.
Price Picks, America's number one daily fantasy sports app. Win or lose, you'll get 50 bucks for just playing.
Guaranteed. Price Picks, run your game.
Must be president in certain states. Visit PrizePix.com for restrictions and details.

The tax deadline is almost here,

and Tax Act has live experts to help answer any last-minute questions you may have.

Questions like, can I claim my SUV is my home office if I answer work emails in my car?

If I adopted 12 dogs this year, can I list them as dependents? And am I doing this right or am I doing this very, very wrong? Our experts have the answers to those questions and many others. Tax Act.
Let's get them over with. Football! It is wonderful.
It's a celebration this week down here in New Orleans. I think it is every week, most weeks down here, but this week we're celebrating ball and everybody that talks about sports has come to this wonderful town that's known for hosting people and having a good time.
We'll be trying to do as such while chit-chatting with people we don't get to talk to all year because everybody's here. Now, the bathroom is about 70 yards that way.
So as soon as that clock struck 57 and we went to a break, there was a full home alone at the airport sprint to the bathroom over here. Almost didn't make it back, but I'll tell you, this place is beautiful and it is certainly filling up.
We're lucky to be here. Trey Hendrickson will join us in about 10 minutes from the Cincinnati Bengals.
He knows this area. Oh,.
Can I wait to chit-chat with him? The Talks at Tables here at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt. Sweet shirt, Con, man.
Yeah, thank you very much. I actually screwed up the order on it.
It shouldn't have been all black. Of course, slop them up.
Sloppy steaks. We all know what we're doing here.
I can't wait to slop them up later on, too, with you fellas. But this is a nice one.
I've been waiting to break this one out. It's a good little shirt.
It looks very professional. You look like you're dressed up in the hair, a lot of people commenting, really bringing your A game at Super Bowl.
Yeah, I figured this is the year. You know, hey, let's stop screwing around.
We're growing up. You know, this isn't our first rodeo.
I might as well act like it for a while. We've been here a lot.
Yeah, it's kind of crazy. It is wild because although this is like, this is like we've only been on ESPN now the last two years, two seasons here, we've been coming here a long time.
Long time. We never understood why ESPN didn't come here.
No. I legitimately never.
Still don't. Still don't get it.
Still don't fully understand. Still not doing it.
Because you can really feel it. And everybody in here loves the game.
Everybody loves sport or at least covers the game and loves the sport. And there's an actual palpable buzz.
It feels like Super Bowl week. It does.
While the show has gone on, I've been thinking to myself, yeah, it's Super Bowl. It's almost like, I don't want to say I was kind of forgetting about that, but then as it was going, it's like, man, Jake Laser just walked by.
What? Where? Jake Laser just walked by. I mean, it's just like the amount of people that are walking by, it's like we're in the game now.
And shout out to New Orleans for being the host, and shout out to the football community coming together to celebrate a hell of a season. Yeah, without a doubt.
And like you said, you know, if we were at some restaurant or some beer garden, you're not getting that. You're not getting Glaze walking by and just everybody on the set.
You know what I mean? Is it a little distracting? Sure. Because you see Jay Glazer, your eyes go right to him.
Well, that's the thing. I was talking to Fred here, and then literally everybody in the back, head turned that way.
Mark Ingram said hi. Okay.
I still didn't, to this moment, I had no idea who it was because I didn't want to disrespect Fred, but I couldn't wait to hear who was potentially walking by because it could be anybody. Exactly.
One half of the hammer. Cowboys AP Tone is here.
Just gave out his bet of the day. The over-under on quarterback rush yards in the fourth quarter.
Seemingly lower than we would expect for both of these quarterbacks. I like that we're giving those out.
Maybe a little hey, something to think about. We got plenty.
I mean, there are thousands and thousands of bets for the Super Bowl. It is the greatest spectacle of all time as far as the betting world is concerned.
So we'll have more tomorrow, more the day afterwards. What's the national anthem time? Do we know? So, you know, since sports betting has moved to not offshore and legal, they don't really do that anymore.
That's bull. Who's singing it? I don't even know who's singing it.
You got to pay attention. Who did it at the Royal Rumble? That lady.
I don't know, but it was the over. Incredible.
It was good, and it was long. Really? It was good, and it was long.
I mean, good lord. Yeah, it was long.
I get it. It was long.
There's one thing you don't remix, okay, and that's the national anthem. Oh, she did.
Remix. What? She said all the words I said.
She was giving herself 10 seconds in between words.

Beautiful.

She was breathing because she wanted to make sure she hit it properly.

Absolutely.

Beautiful.

It was long.

It was a long one, though.

Yeah, very long.

I actually got 120 seconds, allegedly, is what Chad is saying at the moment for the national anthem.

But as I was sitting there, I kind of got emotional for a second because it was like Lucas Oil Stadium, you know,

and you're like doing it, and the place is packed out, and it's like, oh, shit, this is a pretty cool little thing here. Yeah.
For my life, this is a pretty cool little thing. So I started getting a little emotional, and I'm staring at that window, and I'm like, I fucking hate that window.
Like that window was my – that's my enemy there. Because when that window was open, that thing was a wind tunnel, and my life was worse than everybody else's on the field whenever that happened.
So I hated that thing. So literally as I was standing there, I was like, you know, talking shit to the window.
I wanted to see you again, you know, and then look over at the Jumbotrons in there. Then I'm having a moment.
I'm like, it's pretty cool. It looks so estate and feel like this is a good moment that, you know, I should take in.
It's a pretty cool thing. And then all of a sudden, I'm like, where are we? She was two sentences in.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, that's it.

We were 15-second pauses.

I mean, I looked at Cole at one point.

Holy shit, the Bears here.

But I looked at Cole at one point.

I think we were both like, we got a long way to go here.

What's going on?

But it was great.

She nailed every note.

She did.

She nailed every single note.

So it was a great performance, but it was long, I agree.

Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler,

she was looking incredibly cool.

Yes, sir, appreciate that.

Super Bowl champion, college football national champion, A.J. Hawk is here.
12-year NFL vet, Super Bowl champion, A.Q. Shipley's here.
And, ladies and gentlemen, a man who works for Fox now, used to work for ESPN and for Game Day. He goes by a professional name now, I believe.
He does. Oh.
Ladies and gentlemen, a friend of the program, Chris Felica. Also known as Bear.
Bear. Bear.
Wandering by and figured I'd stop by. How are you? How's life? I'm good.
The college football season, 12-team playoff, biggest season, longest season of all time. You've been around college for so, so long.
Your thoughts on it? I liked it a lot more than I thought I would. I was not pro-expansion, but it was pretty cool to have that many games and keep that many fan bases' interest in it.
Now, the weight between the games, that's another story, but I loved it. You went to change the seating, I assume.
Yeah, the seating was a joke. You should just do it 1 through 12, 1, 2, 3, 4, get bys, and we go from there.
How do you feel about how cold those games were? That was awesome. Yeah, but if they move it to, like, a lot of us were pitching, there needs to be another round of home field games.
Yes. Hell no.
Yes. Dude, it would be so cold.
Honestly, I don't know. Maybe this winter was different.
Maybe this winter was colder. I think it was.
I mean, the NFL does it every year. This winter was cold as shit.
Yeah, and don't know. And maybe this winter was different.
Maybe this winter was colder.

I think it was.

I mean, the NFL does it every year.

This winter was cold as shit.

Yeah.

And the NFL does do it.

You guys look very comfortable in Columbus that night.

It looked good.

So cold.

It was cold as shit.

I was sitting on my couch.

I was like disciplined.

I'm like, I wish we were doing big news doing a show there.

And I'm like, nah, actually, I don't.

My couch is kind of ice cold.

But that was a part of the conversation. And like like um you know how the conversation goes around SEC bias you know SEC bias SEC bias there's a lot of that that happens okay ESPN is the SEC bias okay it's the Big Ten bias do you guys get that did they say that about you guys absolutely okay so everybody gets attacked for that because it is attackable okay that makes sense that helps me out yeah a little bit more but the conversation was like uh in the sec you gotta play these big ones every single week you know that's what the sec coaches say nick says it kirby says it lane kiffin says it everybody says it you know what the north never said back is every week late in the season we got to play in freezing cold temperatures so we can't be built as fast we got to be built a little bit more physical and And that cold weather being an equalizer, I think, was big for college football.
It was awesome. Especially with how – it was like the coldest.
It was like the North showed up too. It was like, hey, I'm going to make this shit as miserable as possible.
The North remembers we're going Game of Thrones there. Will Howard did.
Yeah. How did you feel about Will Howard? Awesome.
That was great. But that was the best part about the portal is, like, seeing a guy like Will Howard go somewhere to do well.
Indiana, like the season that they had bringing all these guys and revamping their team. Vandy.
But Howard was a guy who, earlier in the year, it was like, ooh, is this the guy? He had a terrible game against Michigan. Like, can they actually do this? But he was great, and that throw to Jeremiah was ridiculous.
Third and 11, baby. Unbelievable.
Chip Kelly's last call basically. How about that? How about Chip? Back to the NFL.
Like it or don't like it? Good for him. He got his college redemption.
Won his ring. Won his chip with the Buckeyes.
Maybe he can go out to the Raiders there with Pete and make playoffs. Tough division.
Life is good as an offense coordinator, as we know. Yes, it is.
Hey, Bear, we miss you, brother. Good to see you.
Tony, you have any questions for Bear? Yeah, we have to ask the Bear. Do you have a favorite bet for the Super Bowl? I play an under 49.
I don't think it's as high scoring as people think. I think we have long, time-consuming drives, and I don't think we're seeing both teams in the 30.
Under 49. As we chit-chat about how we felt about the fourth quarter rushing yards, I'm excited to get his answer because how we all feel.
Yeah. So we all feel one way.
Yes. So that would normally mean, how do you feel about this particular prop? Fourth quarter rush yards for the quarterbacks.
Jalen Hurts is like six and a half yards in the fourth quarter. Patrick Mahomes, four and a half yards in the fourth quarter.
Obviously, the kneel down is a thing. Right, exactly.
We all love the over, though. We all love the over for how these offenses operate and what this season has been.
How do you feel? Have you thought about that? Have you heard about that? And what is your immediate reaction? I got burned on Mahomes over against the Niners in 2020. Well, the negative seven, negative eight, and that cost me.
But I like that because I think you probably, and I'm going to factor in, that's one of the things. I like Mahomes' first carry over four and a half yards because I think you're going to see pressure.
The one thing that the defense can't contain and prepare for is, Mahomes, everyone's covered. That gain is seven.
First down, move to six. But I like that.
You look quick there, didn't you, Mary? Very quick. No,? Very quick.
But I like that in the fourth quarter as well because you figure these teams are going to be third and five, pass rush, everyone covered, takeoff, first down. I'd go over on both of those.
Alright. We appreciate you, Chris.
Good luck to us. Love you, Bear.
Love you, Bear. Bear's a man.
He's like a dancing bear there. Did you see him? Yeah.
Yeah. Whoa.
He has so much knowledge of everything. He really does, yeah.
That was kind of the thing at game day. I didn't get a chance to experience it, you know, because he was on his way out, basically, as I was coming in.
So, we got, like, one ear together. You fire something over at him, and it's just like a Rolodex actually opening in his brain.

Like the way his eyes are just, we go through the pages.

Calculating.

Search through here, and boom.

Yes, it was Jack.

It was.

Yes, it was.

Yeah.

The kid from Ohio.

Yes, he's from Ohio.

Yeah.

Five-star.

You see him unraveling things, like more information.

It's like special guy, special talent. I mean, I love my time with Bear.
Hilarious human being. And the other guy's not half bad either.
Love Stanford Steve. Hey, he's a locker room guy.
Oh, yeah. Stanford Steve.
Speaking of A.Q. Shipley here, ladies and gentlemen.
Hey, baby. Hey, A.Q.
All right, Q. What have we not talked about enough, you think, in the sports world? Luka Doncic being the dumbest thing that has ever happened.
Do you think your NBA guy – Big NBA guy. People forget high school basketball Hall of Famer.
That's right. Who used to dunk on that big guy? Nate Hartung.
There it is. Well, he didn't dunk on Hartung.
Hartung dunked on him. Yeah.
Of course. The toughness you see from him is because – Hartung's still bringing it.
Yeah, still bringing it. Still bringing it.
Still bringing it. Yeah, I thought I saw him on the hotline.
In the G League? No, Edinburgh. BYU guy.
He's up in Edinburgh. He went to BYU? Here's a cup of coffee.
They don't drink coffee. Because he went to a woman drink.
A cup of tea. There it is.
A cup of decaf tea. Okay, so Luka Doncic gets traded out of Dallas.
We've talked about this numerous times off air as well. I'm trying my best not to be like

I hate the Dallas Mavericks.

Okay? Like I'm trying my best not to.

Luka has become, maybe

other than Tyrese Halliburton and the Pacers.

Okay? Because I love that squad. T.J.
McConnell,

Spicy P in the boys. Love them.
Okay? Good people

too. Been great in Indianapolis.

We appreciate the hell out of them.

It's all of a sudden like Luka's big baby face in my eyes.

Oh yeah. It's like Luka put this place in his organization on his back from what we're watching, from what matters on the court.
Oh, yeah. What the actual business is, what the actual thing is, all the way to the finals.
And then a couple people in the building, we don't like the way this guy goes about doing what he's doing. And they just run his ass out of town pretty much.
That's crazy to happen to a star in the NBA. But I guess it should kind of

reframe our idea that all the stars run

the NBA. Maybe it's not

like that. Maybe it does have some NFL

in it where people will like pettiness

or think that their super genius is getting

in the way of decisions. I mean, it was a wild

move. What are your thoughts on it? I mean, he's 25

years old and he's a top three player

in the NBA, right? I mean, at the end of the day,

in his prime, and you just let him walk out of

the building. You don't let good people...
No, you don't let him walk.

You actually... Yeah, kick his ass out.
Boom.

Get out. Get out.

Yeah, you just don't let that happen.

I mean, it's... When you got good players

and you got good people, keep them in your building.

It's so crazy that, like, there's rumors

of Giannis being traded out, and like,

normally you'd be like, well, that's definitely not

happening, but now this year you're like, maybe it will. I'll only know only know if shams tweets it bingo what did he get off the call for uh he got off the call for uh some other uh schlub got to go out of dallas he had a big one today though what are you talking about these guys are in the nba exactly he's a fantastic player but when you go from luka to a guy who isn't luka it is going to be a schlub but the Milwaukee Bucks did trade for Kyle Kuzma today.
They moved Chris Middleton. Yeah, that was the big one this morning, which is kind of a massive trade.
But also Kyle Kuzma, who knows? Washington Wizards were looking into Kevin Durant potentially. That's right.
Oh, Pac's here. Smell me, Pac.
Pac-Man Jones show's here. Smell me.
Pac, what are you doing? Are you live down here? Yeah, I'm live. Pacman Jones show?

No, not live on the show. Just making

my rounds. Okay.
Hey, how is

a great season out of you? Proud of you,

buddy. Proud of you, man.

Proud of you, dude. Good year.

Good interviews. How'd you

get into flow? Did you enjoy the season as a whole?

Yeah, I did. It took me a little

time to find my groove, but I found

my groove. Enjoyed talking shit, watching you guys, stealing a lot of things from y'all.
Hey, it's all right. Come on, what's up with my brother over there, man? I like your hair.
Look at your jacket, man. That thing looks sick.
So cool, dude. You know, everybody can't wear whatever.
Yeah, I know. Any day.
I could not wear any of it, but I like two mics on you, Schmelme. I mean, you are rolling.
Co-host here. Hey, what's up, Pat? Dude, how are you doing? So you're originally from, I looked it up a little bit.
Originally from TMZ. Yes, sir.
Now working with Pac. Yes, sir.
You guys are creating, he became, Pac became an insider. You guys started breaking news.
Yeah, I know. Black Adam Schefter.
Are you excited to be in the sports world with Pac? Fired up about it. Nice.
It's a rocket ship, man. We're having a blast.
Okay, so how often are we recording? Twice

a week. Let's go.
Let's go.

Let's go. Pack.

How's family? Families are great.

They running around here.

Wife is running around here somewhere. Hey, what's up?

Tish, good to see you. Good.
Boys are doing

good. Yeah.
Hey, a lot of conversation

around West Virginia right now. A lot of conversation,

my boy. Hey, I think we're going to have a quarterback that's able to

throw, so maybe, you know, there's a wide receiver. Uh-huh.
Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, say, 95% healthy now coming back off the knee injury. I don't know.
It's going to be interesting where he picked to go. We're talking about Chris Henry Jr.
here, obviously, baby boy of slim

who has been in the Pac-Man Jones residence and house since then.

Whenever you think about West Virginia bringing Rich Rod back,

I know we've talked about this obviously off air.

We're back, I think.

We're back.

I think West Virginia's back.

We're back.

It might take us a little bit, but we're back.

We start with the quarterback.

We got a quarterback.

So, yeah, I'm pretty eager that we're winning over six and a half games. I like that.
I think that's where we're starting. I like it.
Good expectations. I don't love that that's where we're at.
Easy. Schedule K.
Yes, I look pretty doable. All right.
Hey, keep crushing it. We're proud of you, man.
All right. Love y'all, man.
Hey, you too. Thank you, guys.
What a sick jacket. It's awesome.
It is. All right.
AQ will do the Shipley Shuffle. Yep.
As our next guest will get suited and booted. This is an honor here.
It's so cool. It's the best.
I feel like this is a pretty cool opportunity. Oh, yeah.
It does really hit you, too, like, oh, shit, the Super Bowl is on Sunday.

Like, the last game of the year, the entire season boils down to this.

It's the best.

We've been a fan of this dude for a long time because doesn't wear gloves.

Sure.

Old school.

Goes about his business.

Yep.

Has had quite a showing for the Cincinnati Bengals.

Yeah.

He's from the warm, too.

So, grew up in Florida.

Doing it in Cincinnati

day in, day out.

I respect that.

Ladies and gentlemen,

one of the greatest in the game in history.

Sack leader

from the 2024 NFL season.

35 and a half sacks over the last

two years. Ladies and gentlemen,

Trey Hendricks.

Trey Hendricks.

Oh, what?

What's up, man?

So full of time.

You can't stand up.

He looks like a teenager, bro.

He looks like a teenager.

I like these little Nike slits.

I want those Nike slip-ons.

He's got tape on his fingers still.

He probably just messed up.

Oh, he broke his finger, Tye.

Tye.

Hey, I had to check him. Yeah, I had to start on Packer fan.
I had to check him. I don't hurt your hand.
Teddy Karras is over to the right. Oh, Doug Goat.
Yeah. Doug Goat.
Hey, baby, Teddy. Good to see you, dude.
Good to see you, Teddy. It's great to see you, Pat.
Got a hat for you. You know I do.
Okay, okay. I can't wait to hear what Trey has to say here this morning.
Can I get this? You got it. Okay.
Trey, obviously, teammate there, Teddy Karras. What an absolute legend.
Do you know that in his sophomore year of high school, he drank a gallon of milk every day because he was trying to gain weight? I've heard the stories. I've heard the vomiting stories, too.
Yeah, yeah. He said he got sick and it made him feel terrible, but it didn't work.
But he just committed to it because he wanted to be an NFL guy, family and NFL guy. Let's talk about you.
Trey, incredible. Hey, getting to the passer, buddy.
Yeah. I appreciate it.
Appreciate it. And I mentioned it there.
You're from Florida. You play in the cold.
In Cincinnati is where I think you've kind of done your hello world, I'm a real player. How has Cincinnati been? Being in a cold-ass city during football season, how has that been? And what are your thoughts on the Cincinnati Bengals 2024 season? That was that was well you know first off i love cincinnati i mean it's been a it's a home to me um my son was born there uh you know tremendous opportunity to play football at a high level um you know 2024 season i think playoffs uh was the goal you know sitting out last two years was kind of tough um but end of the day i think we did great you know to rally around the guys we had and and playing for a cause yeah it was a weird year we were just talking to fred warner uh weird year for the niners felt like a weird year for you guys because so many people were playing great including you so many people were playing great but for one reason or another it wasn't working out when you look back on the year and you guys went on that late run obviously when you look back had faith going to make the playoffs, always had faith we're going to be in this thing in the end.
Thought you had it on this team? Yeah, I think, you know, when you have a guy like Joe Burrow spinning it at a high level, Jamar Chase, T. Higgins catching the ball, Chase Brown running it, great O-line too, you know, like you have that offense set.
You know, our defense kind of found our own groove coming into the end of season, and credit to Lou Anarumo for, you know, putting that together for us and leading us to a winning season. So Lou Anarumo now with the Indianapolis Colts.
He's a friend of the program. Oh, yeah.
He's been on. Pies on.
We've got a chance to chit-chat with him. What type of defense do you think he brings in Indianapolis whenever it comes to, like, the humans he's looking for? And how did you feel as Lou Anarumo, the coach for Trey Hendrickson? Well, I was blessed to be productive under his scheme.
And I think he does a good job of making it a very open room, meaning you can talk to him about scheme. This doesn't necessarily fit to what we think we're going to do to attack him.
Very organic. And he's a leader of elite men.
You know, he got guys at 4 and eight to kind of rally behind a cause and uh you know continue to win football games and you know i love him he's he's a great friend to me um you know he was a mentor to me as well with the kind of some of the struggles that happen as you become a successful player um you know and uh through that he's been a tremendous mentor and i wish nothing but the best. What do you mean about those struggles that come?

First of all, I love hearing that about the new Indianapolis Colts defense coordinator,

or shout out to Lou Andrew.

But whenever you say the struggles, whenever it comes, like becoming great,

what do you mean by that?

You know, like it was one of those things that there were some question marks when I signed in Cincinnati originally.

And, you know, he's always been there and supporting me

in every direction that I had to go, you know.

And as I continued to grow as a player you

know to stay humble and you know to be productive under his defense was was special did uh did he

say you should put gloves on i mentioned it a couple times he saw me getting a little bloodied

up and he's like you probably should throw gloves on but you know i'm too far gone okay so what is

it you like to feel it yeah it's a it's an old style mentality i think tape does the job you

know sam thinks i'm nuts but you know it is what it is hey and what's on your finger there

Thank you. You like to feel it.
Yeah, it's an old-style mentality. I think tape does the job.

You know, Sam thinks I'm nuts, but, you know, it is what it is.

And what's on your finger there?

So this is, like, one of those boutonniere fingers, you know.

You got to keep it straight.

Actually, this is, like, Sam's, like, his brace. Like, he, like, designed it.

Obviously, it's mine.

But this was his, you know, baby on paper.

So it works like a dream, so it's healing great. Okay, So your fingers are going to be nasty when you're done.
Hopefully not. They're doing well so far.
Yeah. But.
Yeah, he does have straight fingers. What happened to yours? What happened to you? He's got a strike shot.
I wore gloves. That was my problem.
Oh, you think the gloves. I think that's the problem.
Yeah, I know. I wouldn't toughen them.
So what is it? You just, you put gloves on and you say. I cannot imagine playing without gloves.
I couldn't mean either. I wore one.
It was definitely one of those things that I slipped off Tyrod Taylor a couple times in preseason. Sweaty gloves, you know.
It's just like I've had enough of these. Okay.
And then since then it was just kind of like a mentality. And from there we just ran with it.
How are the hands? How are the hands? Hands feel great. Now catching.
Can you catch? Oh, yeah. I'm pretty good.
I'm all right. I played tight end in high school.
They need to let you get in there and slip out. D-Bot has a question for you, Trey.
Yeah, how frustrating is it now? How different is it now? Now that you're at the top of the league, you're not creeping up on anybody. You're a game wrecker.
So on Wednesdays, offenses are going in, putting you on the screen. Just led the league in sacks.
So now how has your prep changed now going into Sundays? Sack King. Well, I think, you know, you don't want to go too far away from the fundamentals and technique that get you to where you want to be.
You know, it's the small steps in life that get you, and it's the consistency of, you know, chopping wood every week that makes the tree fall. So, you know, I've been blessed to have an opportunity to rush at a high level.
All credit to my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. You know, I'm very thankful for that.
And you you know, obviously being with great teammates and great schemes, like I said, wish nothing but the best to Lou and all the teammates I've played with. So when Jesus Christ blessed you with life, okay, he said this guy's going to have a high motor, good get-off, explosion.
What do you think you work on most? And what do you think is the thing that, like, you do well? Like, the thing that you're great at? Well, you know, I've been explosive. That's a good way of putting it.
I think you can kind of see at a young age that you can do those things and play football that way. But, you know, I've been blessed to have a lot of great coaches in my life.
You know, Ryan Nielsen when I was first drafted, Charlie Partridge, who's with the Col as well was my head coach at fau fantastic coach fantastic you know yeah he's good dude so you know it's not just me you know it's the people i've met along the way that have molded me and shaped me into who i am today yeah you've done the work though yeah it's fun to put in work so you're from orlando florida north of yeah popka and then you were down here in, obviously, Louisiana. Yep, four years.
And you have Hello World Party in Cincinnati. Yeah.
And now the big question is, and I don't like to do this, but we got to. I want to let you know we asked Fred Warren some tough questions.
Yeah, we do. Very tough ones, like the Mormon one.
He's out in the pocket. That's a tough question.
He certainly did. It was.
Tough question for sure. Yeah, but he got it right, I think.
We'll see. I'm going to act like it was right.
Hashtag journalism. So when we're chatting about the Bengals, everybody needs paid.
Yep. Everybody needs paid.
Everybody. The same thing with the Niners.
Every single year, the Niners deal with a similar situation. When you have a lot of great players, especially if you draft them, so they're coming up on their first big paydays, you kind of make them and it kind of happens there, you've got massive paydays around the corner, especially with where the NFL salaries are going.
$275 million projected cap next year, but that could even go even more through the roof. You are at a position that is always going to be very, very important.
Whenever all this shit is happening around you on your team, I don't think we've ever heard you talk about it at all. What is your mentality? Do you say, like, the business will take care of itself? I got to focus.
Like, how do you handle it all? And do you guys know the situation that is happening around you business-wise? Well, credit to my wife. She has to listen to me when I go home.
So, you know, she's been such a blessing to kind of bounce ideas off of. But I think there's a time and a place, you know, I think the offseason is a good spot to kind of address these kind of issues that do come up.
And during the season, you know, when you're talking about OTAs or camp, you know, you don't want to become a distraction for the team because inevitably the goal is to win a Super Bowl for Cincinnati. You know what that looks like this season you know if they if it's something that we can agree on in terms you know that would be great.
Ideally my wife and I would love to stay in Cincinnati. If it's something that helps the Bengals win a Super Bowl if they get picks or anything like that I want to help win a Super Bowl for Cincinnati if I'm if I'm there or not.
Okay. Interesting because Duke is speaking about it now.
Duke Tobin, general manager for the Cincinnati Bengals. He was out at the Senior Bowl and he chit-chatted about it.
And I don't even think we really were like, oh, Trey, there is a situation because everything's on the offensive side. So going forward, do you see something you have to experience and live life with right now? This is a part of your life right now, having to deal with what the future looks like.
Yeah, I would have preferred to kind of hurt it differently than my dad texting me a tweet. You know, that would have been great to kind of figure it out that way.
But, you know, obviously the table is being set in that way. But I just love to play football.
I love for my play to do the talking. And at the end of the day, I think the chips will fall where they're going to be.
And like I said, whatever happens, I want to win a Super Bowl for Cincinnati. Good time to be a sack king.
Pay to me. Pay to me.
What are we talking about? Good time to be a sack king. Good for you, Trey.
No gloves. Don't want to talk about it.
I don't want to be a distraction. Everybody else is pissed about their money.
Yeah. Me too.
I mean, there's stuff. I'm not pissed, but I'm wondering.
I thought you're doing all right. Wondering.
I think you're doing all right. Yeah, I think you're wondering.
No, you. I'm talking about you.
No, you're doing all right. Thank you.
We are doing good. The crew is doing good.
But I could see how you were wondering about, like, well, when am I allowed to? Is there even a – I don't know how this, I don't want to distract anything from anybody. And you talked about winning a Super Bowl.
It's hard to win a Super Bowl, dude. Well, look, it's a kind of, there's a couple things that you want to, like, you know, you have to separate the business and the personal, you know, like with my wife and my family.
You know, we're looking for, like, long-term security guarantees. Those kind of things matter when you're playing a violent sport.

And when you take the risk,

we talked about it last year

with the front office and things like that.

And I have nothing but respect for them.

They've taken care of my family

beyond my wildest dreams.

You know, I was running down on special teams

at like L3 in 2019.

So to come this way and to be rewarded

for the way I played in New Orleans,

I'm very humbled and appreciative

of the opportunity they've gave me.

You know, I continue to chop wood, like I said,

Thank you. We know you've had a lot of success playing against this Chiefs team, especially individually.
We know you can rush the passer. What does this Chiefs offense do that makes it so tough to beat them? Well, I think you've got a really special head coach, and then you have really talented quarterback, tight end, and a lot of key pieces.
And they like to have fun out there. They're jawing.
Can tell like are in the biggest games are they you can hear them talking up like does it look like they're all it's a collaborative effort yeah and they look like very very smooth too you know but i mean uh again credit to lou you know we've had their number a couple times they've had our number it's been great games um you know and it's fun to sack um you know pat it's fun to watch your highlights too yeah i saw it over saw it over there in the corner. But he's a tremendous quarterback, and he's been in such big games very often.
And credit to him and what he's done for his team. What was that celebration there? What was that celebration there? I saw at the end we gave a kiss up to the Lord, I believe.
Did he do arms straight out? Yeah, that's a credit to, like, DeMario Davis. He had that one.

It's the Lord, you know, he's been good to me.

Yeah, so, you know.

Oh, so that's Jesus on a cross right there?

Hell yeah.

Everything that I am, I want to be, you know, given to the Lord.

It's not for me to take ownership of these things, you know.

I've been blessed to have very humble parents and, you know,

humble upbringing.

My brother's here with me today.

Tall. Great kid.
Big SOB. So, you know, like.
Lord playing at tall trees. But just good people, you know, and everything I am and everything I do, I want to glorify the Lord with it.
Love everything about it. Connor has a question for you.
Yeah, true. I mean, you know, we'll see how everything works out, but it feels like you and T Higgins are going to look great in New England.
But when it comes to the season, how was the Hard Knocks experience? Obviously, you mentioned you don't really do media that much. Ted said it too.
How was that kind of dealing with cameras and microphones all over the place when obviously that hadn't happened in the past? Yeah, I think it was just good to be yourself. It was different for sure.
I mean, you got cameras that would rotate every once in a while,

and then you're on camera for the rest of the day.

You know, you got guys mic'd up that normally aren't.

You know, it was an interesting experience.

It also got to see, like, how other teams practice in our division, you know.

Oh, yeah.

You know, that was a cool experience.

But would I sign up for it every year?

Probably not.

Yeah, I think everybody that's ever done it says the same exact thing.

We enjoyed watching if it means anything.

Do you lotion five, six times a day?

Thank you. Yeah, speaking of the division, what is it about the AFC North? Obviously, you're the sack king now.
Miles has been the sack king. TJ has been the sack king.
The Ravens always have someone. I think Kyle Van Nooy had 12 or 13 this year.
What do you think it is about the AFC North that just breeds pass rushers? It sounds a little bit like the 2017 draft, but, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Is that real? Oh, yeah. That home group's 2017? Yeah, Van Noy might not be, but he's amazing.
He was just at the Pro Bowl. Great guy.
He's 07, I think. Yeah, he's somewhat dense.
Yeah. But, yeah, no, I think it's a gritty division.
I think that's like old-style football, you know, and these old rivalries to be a part of is so sick. I love the AFC North.
I love playing for the Cincinnati side of it as well. It's been so fun to get into these fistfights with really talented quarterbacks, really good defenses, and obviously watch Joe spin it.
Joe, what's Joe like day to day? He's great. You know, he definitely keeps to his own, but he works hard.
He's an example for other guys on the team. He's all super cool looking.
Yeah, yeah. He's a cool guy.
But, you know, like the want to and the grit, I think those are the things that go unnoticed. You know, he doesn't complain when he gets hit.
He doesn't really do any of that stuff, and he spins it at like an extremely high level. Yeah, very high level.
I mean, he hits a keyhole if he needed to. His first couple years, he wanted to take a hit.

Remember that?

He's an Ohio guy.

Oh, yeah.

Gotta wake him up. I actually like taking a shot, he said.

Everybody, I'm not saying it was just us, but everybody was like, hey, we need to get over that.

We need to start waking up without taking hits.

He was taking massive shots.

Was it the Eagles?

Yeah, head dislodged from body.

And then he came back.

Yeah.

And he came back in the game.

Yeah, Joe's. Absolutely tough.
Nobody really talks about it. When he's playing, you guys are much different.
Why do you guys start slow? Well, you know, that's a question for you. Tell us.
Because I was talking about Joe. Joe didn't have training camp for multiple years, right? And then this year he had training camp.
So we thought that this was going to be the best year. That's how we got there, Trey.
I just wanted a little peek inside my mind. No doubt.
That is how we got to where we were saying, why do you guys start so slow? Good question, yeah. Starting slow is not something that I think we all have on the drawing board to do every year.
But it has happened that way. But we do a good job of digging out of a hole.
I mean, we find a way to have winning seasons for Zach. And, you know, that's one of the things in football is facing adversity.

I think it's a great teacher in life, you know.

So to kind of find out what we're made of early and often, it's worked.

That's so dangerous.

You do that from the beginning of the season.

Imagine if they play, like, from the beginning of the season.

They'd probably be playing right now.

Whoa.

I don't know.

I'm just saying.

They had been here.

I imagine.

There's a chance.

You guys get into the dance.

I don't think anybody wanted to see you. No doubt.
That was a conversation. That was like everybody was talking about it.
Lurking. Lurking.
No doubt. The Dolphins and the Colts.
Like I said, that's the talent of our offense. I can't say enough about Joe, Jamar, and T.
And specifically T, because there's a lot going on in his situation as well. I mean, for a guy to take that kind of a role where on 31

other teams he's going to be wide receiver one

and then here he's accepting a role

in wide receiver two.

I think it's a very,

you know, maybe a similar role.

Maybe a similar role.

I'm sorry to get through it.

LSU guys.

You got to give him a shot at wide receiver one first.

We'll give him 28.

Let him be wide receiver one first and then let's see where the chips fall because he's a monster. He'd be one in, yeah.
I mean, T is an absolute beast. You got to give him a shot at wide receiver one for a season.
Let's see how it all plays out, if it does or if it doesn't. Oh, Trey's saying, yeah, I'm talking to everybody.
If he does. Let's see what this guy does.
Well, in games where Javar's been out, he's gone off. He's gone crazy.
So, I'm just saying, like, I respect his game. I respect that he's very humble.
I think he's a great guy. Same thing with Jamar, you know, for how he handled adversity as well.
Tremendous respect for him. That is an interesting perspective that we haven't talked about yet.
If T is just cool with being the number two guy, just goes about his business, signs franchise, all right, I'll do it. Let's go.
Whenever at the wide receiver position. It's pretty rare.
Yeah, if it ever happens. Very rare.
If it doesn't happen and we're all there, that's the ideal. I mean, I love being his teammate.
He's a fantastic guy and works hard, you know. I got that jersey for the room at the end of the career.
Oh, yeah? Yeah, he's a special talent. Where end of career you'll be back in Florida? How's the fishing? You fish, you golf.
What Florida shit do you do? I'm working on all those things, you know. Those are things that we definitely did growing up, but I don't think I'm at any level to be like an expert fisherman or an expert golfer.
Any hobbies? Both of those are pretty great. Bowling's fun, too.
Oh, hell yeah. Bowling? Oh, hell yeah.
Love bowling. Got your own ball? I'm telling you.
Yeah, That's the only way. If somebody says they love bowling and they don't have their own ball, just walk away.
So what's your average then? Do you have like an average what you shoot? You know, that's something that we were kind of working on. For a groove there, my dad was over 200 a lot.
I was right in the 175s. Okay, you guys are real bowling.
You grew up in an alley? We were in and out of them. You know, it was something that my brother and I, my dad my dad started to pick up towards an offseason here and there.
How's the billiards? Not as good as I should be. You smoke cigs in there? No.
No cigarettes. Can you read the oil patterns? Say what? Can you read the oil patterns on the lanes or no? What do you do? You check the watch? You definitely see if it's slick or not real quick because if your ball's not spinning, it's a bad lane.
Which one are we sitting on? Are we going to two triangles? About three over. Three triangles.
Yeah, I'm giving a good once over. Who's that guy that has that core? Two-handed.
We know who we're talking about. Pete Weber? Pete Weber.
I think so. Yeah, Pete Weber.
What about the two-handed wonder from down under? Rick Cadmore. Yeah, I really changed the game.
You guys are watching bowling. This is a completely different discussion.
Yeah, you walked into this. Absolutely.
You said it, not us. We don't get to talk about bowling much.
Let's go back to fishing. I'm reeling this one in.
Okay, Kevin Van Damme. Let's talk about Kevin Van Damme.
You guys are all over it. You're talking about Kevin Van Damme.
K-V-D. Oi.
Oi. Oi.
Yeah, he's pulling fish out of any water, brother. This is tremendous.
Thank you. It's a show.
Ty has a question for you. Going back to the slow starts, and you mentioned Zach.
Yes. I feel like in this Super Bowl, a lot of people all season were talking about Nick Sirianni and saying, hey, this guy's a big dumb dipshit.
He's kind of just lucky that he's the coach of the Eagles. It seems like Zach gets a lot of that as well, and we saw a little bit of how he is in team meetings on hard knocks and everything.
But what's your relationship like with him? Because when he went to the Super Bowl, everyone's saying, okay, here's the guy. This is McVay's protege.
But then the next couple years, it's like, we've got to get this guy the hell out of here. He's ruining Joe Burrow.
What's he like in front of the team, and what's your relationship like with him? Yeah, I definitely think it's not the same narrative as any of that would be. I think he's tremendous.
He's a leader of elite men as well. Makes a lot of big decisions.
I've had some good conversations with him. I love him.
I think he's great. He calls a great offense, obviously, when you're talking about the guys having the success that they've had.
He's putting guys in the right position. guys are getting open and he's smart enough to be in that McVay system um I heard some of the calls on hard knocks I didn't do I didn't listen too much because you know we do play against them every day it's kind of a little low blow but but yeah no they have they have a great system I think he's a great coach um you know I wouldn't want to be anywhere else or coached by anybody else, and that's obviously the goal for this offseason.

You go down to that watering hole he always takes the game ball to.

What's that bar?

I was just there.

You were just there?

That's a Ted question.

Did he walk away already?

Steelers-Bengals game.

He's in all those watering holes.

Love Ted.

It's an Irish name.

There's an Irish name to it.

Ladies and gentlemen, oh, there's Thomas right there. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, as the Marines are celebrating their 250th birthday, Iraq! I believe we have the two Marines that are going to be doing the flyover.
Gentlemen, we appreciate the hell out of you. Hey, hold up.
We got turning your mic. We got you muted.
These guys hate the troops in a minute. Wow.
Hey, first of all, thank you, gentlemen, for. We appreciate the help out of you.
Thank you. We appreciate it.
Legitimately. Okay, so you guys are doing the flyovers.
What are your names? I'm Justin Pitcock. You have a title.
What's it? Major Justin Pitcock. I'm a V-22 Osprey pilot.
Hey! Okay, Major. I'm Lieutenant Colonel Mike Thiessen.
Okay, so we got a Major and Lieutenant Colonel here. That's right.
Okay, you guys will be doing the flyover on Sunday? We absolutely will be. Can't wait.
Okay, what are we flying over there? We've got four MV-22s, and then there it is right there. Oh, shit.
That's sweet. A sexy machine right there.
That's actually me flying yesterday. We did a practice run, and so I'm in the right seat.
But we've got four of those bad boys, and then we're going to have two F-35s. Okay, so the timing, obviously, is the biggest part of this whole thing.
Oh, yeah. How much practice are we doing? How much are we rehearsing? And when do you guys find out you're doing it? So we practiced yesterday.
We're practicing again on Friday. You're invited to that if you'd like to come.
Yeah, do you want to go flying on Friday? What? Can you parachute out of it? We don't want to have anybody. We don't carry parachutes.
Parachutes are for quitters. Oh.
Yes! I love that. But if you want to go, we'll grip it and rip it and do another practice run.
The grip it and rip it thing is the thing that I fear, you know, because I will yawm it all over that entire place. What time is that all happening? So we're going to do the flyover around 1,600, 1,800 or so.
So 4 o'clock to 6 o'clock for all you not military folks. Okay.
Yeah. Thank you.
We're doing the math there. 12, I think, is involved.
I got to subtract this entire thing. How many years of service from you two gentlemen? So I've been in for 19 years.
18 for me. We appreciate you, boy.
Thank you, boy. Where are you guys from? Where are you from, Major? I'm from Texas, from East Texas right now, Nacogdoches.
Not far from where Patrick Mahomes was born and raised. Okay, so you've always been a pilot? You got into the Marines to be a pilot, or how did this work? 9-11 happened my freshman year, so I was looking for a way to serve, but always been interested in the air, and Marines afforded that opportunity.
Okay, so a lot of Marines air, you know, everybody thinks Air Force, obviously, in the sky, but the Marines, we have a lot of history right in the sky. Absolutely.
Naval aviation goes way back, and the Marine Corps has been part of it from the beginning. And how about you, Lieutenant Colonel? Yeah, so I grew up in Houston, Texas, originally from Ohio.
I'm an Ohio State alum, OH. Ohio, buddy.
And a great win. Oh, I loved it.
Oh, man, congrats, Natty. Congrats on the national.
Yes. So, but yeah, so I grew up outside of Texas, but then lived all over.
And right now I live in Charlotte. Okay, we're always going to be in the sky? We're going to be pilots? Always wanted to be a pilot from birth, absolutely.
Okay, and when you're pulling the Gs, you're not puking or any of that shit? That depends on you. That's not my problem.
Okay, so you never? No, never thrown up. Did you puke early? You didn't puke early when you first started out?

No, no, never.

What all have you flown? What's the craziest

thing that we have that we don't know about?

That we've flown? Yes. Or that

we've done? That you've flown and

done. I guess you could do both.
Well, I can tell you some crazy

stuff that we've done.

Not on the mic. On Friday when you come.

On Friday, we'll tell you all types of crazy stuff.

I won't be able to hear it. I'll be puking.
I've never seen a UFO. How about yeah.
Well, what about UFOs? UFOs? Uh, what? Oh, major. I'm sorry.
What are we talking about? All right. You got me.
You got me. I cannot confirm nor deny.
Wow. Have you flown anything that you thought to yourself? Wow.
This is like a, uh, ET type vehicle here. There's some technology on this.
Well, if you look at that Osprey again, so that Osprey can take off like a helicopter and fly like an airplane, so those big rotors on the side there, we'll flip them up, and so we can take off and land like a helicopter, and then we'll transition them down to that vertical space. Let's be honest.
Some people look at what we look like, and they think, whoa, that must be not from this planet, right? So we get mistaken, maybe. Yeah, because we got some shit.
Like, this is insane. So it takes off from a standstill.
How fast can it go? Well, so we're going to, for the flyover, we're going to be about 250 knots, which is just about 300 miles an hour. We're going to be humming.
Does it make the flyover different? The fact that it's a dome down here? So, no, it's a great question. So we're going to have, we've been working with NFL films and all the video, Fox and all those guys.
And on Friday, they're going to be doing a lot of filming, and they'll have stuff on top of the dome. And then during the actual flyover day, there will be cameras everywhere capturing it so the folks inside the dome will get to see it.
Nice. What's the helicopter jet thing that we have that's awesome normally used for? What would that be used for? Laying scunion.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Killing enemies. We're bringing Marines.
We'll drop off Marines and deliver hate and discontent all around the world. Yes.
Go. Go.
To get to love, sometimes you got to go through hate. And we appreciate the hell out of you.
Happy birthday to the Marines. Thank you.
Thank you very much. Hell, yeah.
Thank you guys for serving. And when we scream, is that massively disrespectful to you guys? No, it's not.
Massively exciting. Okay.
it's massively exciting. Keep it going, actually.
You're pretty jacked up right now. All right, there you go.
We appreciate you, Major. Lieutenant Colonel, thank you so much, and can't wait to see you on Sunday.
Thanks a lot, guys. All right.
Good luck. That's why I qualified for that invite, right? Yeah.
Yes, you can. You can take my spot, actually.
Funny enough, I'm going to need you to go. Yeah, we need you to film it, too, so we can say that it was part of it.
It is an honor to get asked, and I've been very fortunate to do a lot of work with the military. Very thankful for the military and the people that I've met whenever to Japan on the USO tour, been to a bunch of bases.
It is, they're a great group of people, obviously, heroes walking amongst us, and it's always an honor to be asked. And any time you get a challenge going, obviously, it's something that is incredibly humbling, I'll say, in the moment.
I don't think you're going to see me on one of those planes. I don't think you're going to see me on that thing.
Have you been in one before? So Blue Angels, they asked me to do it. I watched a couple videos of people doing it.
And I'm like, yep, that's who I am. I'm not going to do that.
I'm not going to puke all over this thing. Incredible honor.
I won't watch the show. He's doing a great job.
That was an honor to watch. I can't believe we have that much control of fighter jets.
Right. I can't believe they're just flying 400 miles an hour just like that.
And then just, yeah, we're all going to turn left. And that happens in Indy every single year.
And since we're so close to the airport, their practices fly over the Thunderdome.

And we're seeing them at like 400 feet above the sky.

And then straight up in the air.

And it's like, I'm not built for that.

My body's not built for that.

Tom Cruise in that.

That's what I am at 1G.

Going supersonic.

Yeah, I can't get into it.

But shout out to them.

That's going to be an awesome moment.

Lev Pal did a documentary on it.

It was awesome.

But I felt disrespectful to ask them, do you think it's possible to fly one of those and not get rocked up? All right. I don't think that would have been disrespectful.
No chance. You think they're rocked up the whole flight? Every time.
When we did it, we were all there. I got 30,000 hours in that.
I don't care. That's all natural Viagra, brother.
Thank you. Hey, you don't need no blue pill, pal.
I see right. All right.
You don't need it. Congrats to you, Trey, by the way.
Yeah, thanks. You're going to enjoy that, bro.
You're going to have a good time on that. Let's talk about Joe Tooney, especially with Trey Hendrickson here.
He's a guard. Obviously, the story has been told numerous times on this program and throughout all of sports because it's a big deal.
This guy's like a Hall of Fame guard. They've had to cycle through tackles.
He bounces out to tackle for the playoffs. Has done well.
They've won games. Now, AQ Shipley, offensive lineman, says they're kind of protecting him.
They're kind of protecting him a little bit. All RPOs, not putting him out on an island.
That's because Andy Reid's a good coach, and everybody needs to do that. But what he's saying is the guy's body type is not built to be a tackle.
That's just a matter of fact. Whenever you're looking at a tackle that you're going to be taking on, what are you studying? What are you thinking about? And who do you hate the most? What style of tackle do you hate the most? Well, ironically, I think it's all going to kind of come together.
So I actually played him at tackle. Orlando went down with a calf.
I think it was 20-21. And we went a full game that way, me and Thune.
He was great. He played well at tackle.
I do think he got a little bit of that help a little bit there. But he's a heck of a talent, a heck of a talent.
But Orlando Brown, now that we got him in Cincinnati, there's just not a lot of ways to attack a guy like that. I mean, he's got long arms, quick feet, incredibly talented.
You know, I can talk about my teammates for a while, but when I went up against him, you know, we would not only go at it physically, but we were drawn, too. How about, like, a Deion Dawkins? Whenever he does that, I'm smarter than you move? Yeah.
Deion's a problem, too. Like, he knows how to play the game within the game as well.
You know, he's got a quick get-off off the line. He definitely anticipates things, and his set is very unique as well.
He's dropped with like a lot of vertical depth. That poses a couple challenges if you're trying to get a guy like Josh Allen as well, because he's very mobile, so you don't want to go inside too quickly, because then you're leaving your whole defense pretty exposed.
What are you looking at, ball or knee? I think every good rusher should have like a triangle where it's, you know, ball is key.

And then the man is obviously anticipating the ball.

And then the quarterback who's calling for the ball is going to give you a

tell or two.

But some of the vets are flashing hands and stuff like that.

So.

Wow.

He didn't jump.

Wow.

I didn't jump.

Wow.

Okay, good.

That was incredible.

I think a part of me left.

I thought I had a pretty good game.

Did you imagine if you jumped off?

I would have.

Got him.

Boom.

Oh, that's great.

Oh, that's great.

That's great.

I'm not your puppet, dude.

I'm not jumping offside just because you yode in my face.

But that would be impossible.

I don't know how you don't, especially with some of these cadences.

I've had a couple.

Cam Newton had a great, you know, he'd get after Drew Brees as well in practice, two-minute drills. I gave Dennis Allen a couple gray hairs, you know.
So, I'd say it was a grind. You ever play against Romo? Romo's hard count.
I think that might have been one of the special teams years. Okay.
I was like, you know, just like a, what way, way, way, way. This was better.
Yours was definitely better. Well, I was in Romo.
I was in Romo. Just stop making me jump off sides.
I mean, you got to give a real set. Go ahead.
Here we go. That's Tony Romo.
That was Tony Romo. I don't really have one of my own.
Yeah, I did my own. He did Tony Romo.
You just said. So yours.
So yours is better than Tony Romo. So good to know.
Yeah, good to know. Romo is in the top tier.
I know impersonation of Tony Romo. I actually got some people on field goals.
All right. Nobody's going to talk about it.
No big deal. Is that the hand? No, I think it's because they made rules.
You weren't allowed to move your hand towards the line of scrimmage. I wasn't allowed to move my head at all.
So it had to be like, it had to be a hook. It had to be that number there because the guy on the edge is up on a razor's edge.
Hair trigger. Yeah.
He's going. If you can get a little bit, it's like you can steal first down.
I got a couple of them. It's a big deal.
Now, also, I got called for a couple and Vinny had to kick a further kick. So he's about done with that shit.
We'll see that. Still made it.
Yeah, yeah, no big deal. AJ has a question for you, Trey, as we wrap up Hour 2 here from Radio Row.
When you talk about pass rushers, I know a lot of guys have, like, separate pass rush specialists they work with. Do you work with anybody like that? I know there's guys that sometimes will come into a camp or maybe in the offseason where you work on a guy like the hand dude.
We still have these martial arts people. Do you do anything like that in theseason yeah not or not really for me but i'm never one to say that the stuff doesn't work um you know but for me i like to do what my coach is teaching me you know i think that's something that a lot of players get lost in you know you can learn a lot of things and if your coach isn't coaching it i don't think that helps too much for the defense or the scheme so you know i tend to kind of shy away from that um you know i'm trying to get faster and stronger and mentally sharper every offseason, and those are the things that keep stacking bricks, and then, you know, we let the chips fall where they will.
Does everything come from the threat of power, like speed to power? Like this dude needs to know that I can bull rush him and I can do everything else off of that? I think you're so good with your hands, but your power, like you just take dudes right into the quarterback, and then your handwork is impressive getting off and getting to them. Yeah, I think a lot of people just see that rush, right? Like they don't see the setup that comes, you know, within the game.
Yes, we're playing. You're kind of setting that up with power rushes, and they're feeling power.
You know, this is like driving them back. Power, power.
You feel power. Absolutely.
But, yeah, that's kind of like the game within the game.

You know, you get tackles that will do that, too.

They'll throw a, like, soft set on the outside,

and you make you think in different rushes as well.

So it's all kind of – it goes that way,

and obviously playing with the lead helps with Joe Burrow.

So, you know, that always makes things easier.

Is it fair for me to say, like, it looks like this guy's trying on this play,

but not this other play? Or is that a potential setup play on the one where he's not trying? And maybe I'm misjudging. Go ahead.
Yeah, like when Patrick Carr's in the game, do you maybe, you know, kind of take it easy a little bit against the Ravens? Yeah, I'm just shocked that he's still a fullback. You know, at some point they've got to say he's like a tee tackle.
He's 320 pounds in every bit of it, and he's a stud. You know, I met his family at the Pro Bowl a couple times.
He's a good dude. Heck of a competitor as well, so nothing but good things to say about him.
You got a locker there at the Pro Bowl, huh, just every year I'm coming? You tried the Pro Bowl? How was, yeah. What are the Pro Bowl games like this year? Oh, it was fun.
You know, I can't believe that guys, like, you know guys all over the place come together and won.

It's a really special environment.

Elite players all over the country.

I think so.

It felt like there was more effort this year, too.

Oh, yeah.

It felt like there was a little more effort.

They make it so fun, too.

The Pro Bowl games, they're interacting.

It's all for the kids as well.

It's inspiring kids to do flag football and stuff like that

and taking miles off the car before it starts. To D-Buch's point, you're a Florida boy, right? Yeah.
Have a lot of family there, friends, watching at Pro Bowl. He filled that stadium up.
Oh, yeah. Did you see that? Yeah.
He won a state championship in that, Popka High School 2012, in that stadium. It's now Camping World.
It was renamed, I think. But that was a fun environment.
I thank you for joining us for this hour. To wrap up our day here on ESPN, as we continue on ESPN+, Disney+, YouTube, and TikTok Live, there's some local chefs, it appears.
This was not set up. This was not prepared.
This was just something that just literally showed up. Shout out to Radio Row having this.

What do we got here, boss? What do we got here, chef?

We got a 12-hour smoke

going in short ribs, sandwich,

a little crystal hot sauce,

vinaigrette on top.

Appreciate you guys. Where's this

from? Where's this from?

Sodexo Live.

We appreciate the hell out of you guys.

Have a great Super Bowl week. Thank you, chef.
Thank you, Chef. That's a lot of meat there, Trey Hendrickson.
That's a lot of meat. We'll enjoy all of that and the rest of this particular program live from Radio Row.
Be your friend. Tell a friend something nice.
It might change their life. We're in this thing together.
Never forget it. We'll see you tomorrow on ESPN.
We continue on the internet. Goodbye.

They would nail it. We're still live, Trey.

Still live, Trey. We're still live, Trey.
Don't say anything.

Easy. Yep.
Still live on the YouTube.

Unless you want to say you want to go to New England. Or you maybe

want to come all over to Indianapolis, Indiana.

Maybe.

I think I like where I'm at in Cincinnati,

but let's see. There's a lot of

things that have to happen, but

all of that's out of my control. I got money for you.

That's a big piece of

I'm at in Cincinnati, but let's see. There's a lot of things that have to happen, but, you know,

all of that's out of my control.

I got money for you.

That's a big piece of beef.

That's a sandwich.

And I don't know how you eat the sandwich with the bone in it.

Impossible.

But the bone, that's going to be a tough eat, I think. But I do appreciate the fact that they're like, hey, listen,

we don't want to take off bone for it because that gets away the flavor.

I don't know if I'm beating that be eating that, but it looks good.

Yeah, some of that beef.

You don't need to eat the bread.

New Orleans food is like something they're known for, right?

The food down here?

Oh, yeah.

The chefs down here?

Yep.

Everything like that?

Oh, yeah.

What's your favorite food?

Are you a super diet?

I'm not a huge foodie.

No.

I've been blessed to have a chef.

Obviously, she cooks for my wife and I.

Jesus Christ, brother chefs.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Definitely a blessing of food, for sure.

What are we eating?

You know, it changes up week to week.

I'm a big chicken fajitas guy, though.

I think that's a staple in the family.

So that's definitely the cheat meal.

Cheat cheese coming out sizzling on the plate.

How was that?

Solid?

Thank you. Yeah, that's a staple in the family.
So, you know, that's definitely the cheat meal. Cheap cheese coming out sizzling on the plate.
How was that? Solid. Any gator? Top notch.
Yeah, you like gator down here? You ever eat gator? You ever eat gator, boy? I have had gator, and it's all right. What do we do? We eat that on a sandwich with a gator? Fried po' boy.
The pasta gator? Gator po' boy. Gator on a stick.
That's a goodator? Gator on a stick.

One of my favorites.

It's been a while since I've been in New Orleans. You ever go hunting in gator?

You ever go hunting in gator?

You know, occasionally.

It happens.

I've been invited, for sure.

I've gone hogging and frogging.

I've never gone gator hunting, though.

I've done a Louisiana thing.

You watch the swamp. The swamp people, it never gone gator hunting, though.
But I've done, like, a Louisiana thing. Still gator.
You watch the swamp. You know, the swamp people.
It's a gator on, like, a string, yeah? No. What? I got to shoot him right in the drip.
What? Gators. Gators swim over there.
It's like hunting. It's like you're tracking them down and stuff.
I don't hunt either. I'm just saying.
What? You just said the gator hunt? I thought they killed gator. It's like a bang stick, right? No, you don't know about those gators.
You lure them in. You hit them in the head with a bat.
That's right. I forgot.
It's like sharks. They lure them in.
Them gators pop up and they shoot them right in between the eyes. They got you because they got an roll.
That's Gator, hon. I'm now educated.

I'm happy we could bring something to you.

I love eating that Gator.

I love eating Gator.

Gator boots, Gator belts, Gator wallets.

All right.

We appreciate you stopping by, Trey.

Appreciate it.

We really got better today.

So did I.

We hope you feel that way.

I did.

We hope that you exit this stage a better you than whenever he came on here. And you did great.
You didn't suck. Yeah.
Are you selling something? Approval. No.
You're selling approval? Let's see the shots. Come on.
You talked about the. You want to shoot? Oh, yeah.
Okay. Oh, yeah.
Oh, God. Now, I heard they're like foam, though.
Those beads are kind of messing. Those beads on the rim are making it a little.
I recommend going with with the bank here. How many shots before? Because Fred was talking about the discretion, too.
Hold on, hold on, hold on. How many? Don't give away the gimmick, brother.
Every time is the first time. Every time is the first time.
Yeah, yeah, because. Wow.
Right? It's quality. It's a bad ball.
No, no, no. That was good.
It's well done. Not great.
Well, hold on, Trey. You're kind of.
I said it's well done. Yeah, but you're looking at us as if we bought these.
Yeah. Yeah, okay, we did it.
Hold on. It's good defense.
Get a pocket. Ladies and gentlemen, Trey Hendrickson, pass rusher for the Cincinnati Bengals, a man who wears no gloves on a football field in 2025 when technology has got to a point where they make gloves that don't even feel like gloves anymore.
He says, I don't want to hear it. I don't want to be tracked.
Don't want to be tracked. I want these bare mitts to be ripping jerseys in tackling quarterbacks.
He's here with no business. Tomorrow you will be here for? Business.
Which is the company of? Old Spice. Nice.
Nice. Solid.
Quality company. That was a good plug.
Yeah, Dove Mancare a little bit. Whole body D.O.
I wish we had some right now. I got some in my backpack.
Let's make sure we have those out here for the future. No doubt.
It's an old bottle I've had forever because it lasts so long. Yeah, it never ends.
Old Spice. Yep, Old Spice.
We don't know their bottle.

That's tomorrow, Trey.

We don't know their bottle.

Got it.

We know our bottle, the Dove Mencare Whole Body D.O.

Two different smells.

One great outcome.

It's like the Clash of Titans.

You don't smell like shit anymore.

Shout out to Dove Mencare Whole Body D.O.

And also, shout out to Old Spice paying our guy.

Shout out.

Representing our guy.

Getting behind our guy. Thank you.
This guy just wants to provide for his family by tackling quarterbacks. Wants it to be fair.
Well, how about winning 50 people $500, Trey Hunter? Wow. You can come down here to New Orleans, sit on a set that was put together that's way too nice than what we deserve, put one basketball that's kind of light and a little into a basketball hoop right over here, and 50 people will win $500.
Be an athlete, Trey. Be an athlete, Trey, for the people.
I thought that was it. Fun and fall.
You gator-armed it. You did kind of gator-armed it.
It was a little bit of a gator. Alright,.
The next one's the first one. This is the first one.
Next one's the first one. This is the first one.
Hey, you get the ball in your hand and you just like. I'm coachable.
Great to be here. I'm coachable.
And I'm even holding this so it looks like maybe it was the first shot. You know, because I'm holding the backup ball right here.
You have no idea. These people are certainly going to remember that you missed one pretty short there.
1.1. Pretty short there.
And to be clear,

I don't know if you got to a point where it would even get

into hoop. Especially

with the jingle bells beads across

the top, which what did our rim do to get those?

You know what I'm talking about. Jesus Christ

ain't talking about it. Uh-oh.

That's gross. Trey Hendrickson

for the good of

70. First shot.
Here we go. First shot.
You don't have to say it, Trey. 75 people, $500.
All you got to do is put that basketball with a busted ring finger into that hoop right over there, and 75 people win $500 because thank God for Trey Hendrickson. Thank God for Trey.
Thank God for Trey Hendrickson. Oh! Too many straight shots.
Banks open, fellas. That was unbelievable.
Banks open. Okay.
All right. 75 people, $500.
All you can do is repost this post, say something nice to somebody in the reply, and put the easiest way to pay you. What a start to Super Bowl week down here at the convention center.
Thanks, open. Hey, I'm Brad Milkey.
You may know me as the host of ABC Audio's daily news podcast, Start Here, but I'd like to add aspiring true crime expert to my resume. And here's how I'm going to make it happen.
Every week, I'm going to unpack the biggest true crime story that everyone is talking about. ABC's got some unique access here.
So I'll talk to the reporters and producers who have followed these cases for months, sometimes years. We're bringing the latest developments and the larger context on the true crime stories you've been hearing about.
Follow the crime scene for special access to the people who know these stories best. Rapper Sean Diddy Combs was a kingmaker.
He had wealth, fame, and power. What's up? Welcome to New York! Until it all came crashing down.
Federal investigators raiding two homes owned by hip-hop mogul Sean Diddy Combs. I'm Brian Buckmeyer, an ABC News legal contributor.

As Diddy heads to trial, we trace his remarkable rise and fall and what could be next. Listen to Bad Rap, The Case Against Diddy, a new series from ABC Audio.
Listen now wherever you get your podcasts. Football! Here's the greatest.
We can't thank you all enough for allowing us to do this for a living. We are live down here in New Orleans, and Wednesday's the day where everybody really starts filing in.
In years past, we maybe came down on a Monday night and did Tuesday here in Radio Row. And it was an echo within the convention center as they were setting things up.
And there was beeping because there was buildings being pieced together here in Radio Row. But Wednesday all the way through the weekend should be absolutely electrifying in here.
People from every town in the country, maybe even every single country in the world, are here to chit-chat about Super Bowl 59 on Sunday. Now, I'm not alone.
Obviously, I'm with the boys. What a time to celebrate football and life.
The Toxic Tables here at Boston Corner at Ty Schmidt. Ty, how are you feeling? Feeling great.
That beef was delicious. It was good.
Absolutely delicious. A little fatty, a little bit of gristle on there.
But, hey, you need that late in the season. You know, you need something to kind of toughen you up, let you know what we're here for, what we're playing for.
Yeah, you talked about the flavor. It seems like there's a lot of seasons out there.
It's about you, though. Yeah, exactly.
That's right. Cajun flavor, which I love.
Yeah, absolutely. We're going to be eating good the next couple nights.
Oh, yeah. You know, like a basketball player down here maybe.
Whoa. Not anymore.
No, he's shredded. He's absolutely strapped.
I'd be eating that beef.

Maybe some of that gator.

The Pelicans have traded a player and some assets away from the Pelicans

to the Oklahoma City Thunder for nothing in return.

So I don't know what that means for the New Orleans Pelicans,

but we do know it's going to be a great week down here.

One half of the hammer.

Done.

Cowboys AP Tony's here.

Nine-year NFL vet.

You look super cool, especially with the Duke in your hair.

Darius J. Baller's here.

AJ Hawk is here. You look great, AJ.
What you learned from yesterday, Trey Hendrickson? Seems like a really, really good dude and he's obviously an unbelievable player, but is he going to be back in Cincinnati? Well, I think he's got one year left on his contract, I think. Yes, he does.
He's going in the final year of his contract. So this is when the rubber meets the road.
That's right. This is where we try to figure out if we're going to do this or we're not going to do this.
Cincinnati Bengals have been in this situation a lot. Cincinnati Bengals, in their eyes, say last year a contract means you got two more franchise tax on the other end.
We got three years left. What the Cincinnati Bengals have said in the past and done in the past, but maybe they operate a little bit differently now because they have so many damn megastars, and they have a chance to go to the Super Bowl every single year.
Trey Hendrickson is the NFL sack king. He led

the NFL in sacks. Everybody talks about Miles Garrett.

Everybody talks about TJ White.

Everybody talks about the Boses, Max Crosby.

You name it. The guy who had the most sacks

this year, Trey Hendrickson.

The guy who wears no gloves and he's going in the final year of his

contract in Cincinnati with a lot of people

that are eager to get paid. I'm excited to see how it

works out. He was saying that television

shows about gator hunting is fake.

What? That's what he said right here.

He didn't mean it like that.

He did. He was saying it.
It ain't real.

He didn't mean it like that. He's a guy who hunters.

What would he know?

Florida boy down here in New Orleans. I think there is a chance

he knows a lot, actually.

Did you tell a gator hunter it's fake?

You're going to turn into a gator. They're going to hunt you.
That's right. Well said.
Yep. Thank you for that.
Couldn't have said it better myself. That's just what I've heard.
You've been talking to the locals? Yeah. You've been talking to the locals? Yeah, I was at a casino last night.
Yeah, and they're paying you. Talked all about the gator.
And they're paying you in those casinos. You're not paying them.
Last night. Hopefully we can keep it rolling tonight.
If we have that zany dealer again. If you see Melissa at the Caesars, book it.
You fucking hightail the other way. Why? What happened? She's the worst.
Great lady. Great lady.
But at her job. Wrong job.
Tell the bus thing because that's all you need to say. Too much pizzazz.
So obviously, you know, Blackjack, you're playing against the dealer. It's the team.
And, you know, it gets to her and she goes over. She busts.
But she'll go 21, even though she has 26. I would lose it.
And she's mismathing. Allegedly, I was not there.
Yeah. But this sounds like this is fireable offenses in my eyes.
Never experienced it at any blackjack table I've ever been on. Same.
I feel like I've played a lot of blackjack in a lot of different places. Never heard of a dealer doing wrong math to you.
Same. All right, 14, when you actually have 17 in front of you.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Like, that's wild. That's their job.
Hey, let's make sure these things get shuffled. Let's make sure we're doing this right.
And let's make sure we got the math right. That's the biggest part of the entire thing.
I like that her gimmick is kind of like, nah, I don't do it, actually. You got to do the math.
Do you want a card or not? I don't know. What is it? You tell me.
Ty had 21. Said 12.
Yeah, because I had like four aces out there. I was like, hey, listen, Melissa, I've had 12 Jack and Cokes, all right? I'm not, you know, just tell me how many fucking I have here.
Ty's like, hey, it's just like, no, I'm just kidding. Yeah, well, there's a lot of fucking cards out there, okay? So, exactly.
She was bullying you a little bit? No, no, no. Yeah, Melissa was questioning your math.
Not allowed to have your phone out. Not allowed to have a calculator, so quick math, gotta do it.
No, and I just said after that, hey, Melissa, enough of this bullshit. Just fucking throw me the cards, okay? This isn't, you know, we're not at the Marat here in downtown Indianapolis.

This isn't your comedy special, okay?

Oh, the Marat. You know, I understand this is Caesars.
This ain't Caesars Palace.

Shut up and deal the cards. And tell me what

number I got. And she was training.
She wasn't even,

you know, we had our guy

behind her who was kind of just like,

what is she doing?

She thought she was right or no? She knew she was

wrong when she was telling you these numbers?

Yeah, oh, yeah.

It's her gimmick.

Oh, that is awesome.

Yeah, no, no.

It ain't awesome.

I don't want to play at her table.

That's what I mean.

But I like that that's the gimmick she's gone with.

What if I'm a blackjack dealer who tells him the wrong math?

That's awesome.

Think about deciding that.

You're a real heel.

Yeah.

That's a real heel.

She was.

She's a true heel out there.

It's bullshit.

You even.

You lost. You won.
Yeah. Maybe you should have been a little nicer to Melissa Gimmick.
No. No, I didn't lose that much.
Actually, you know what? Now that I said that, I'm coming back for scalps tonight. Okay.
Be on the lookout, Melissa. I want you, bub.
Thank you. How are we doing? To be honest, I'm not 100% sure what part of the Super Bowl we haven't talked about 100 times.
Yeah, exactly. I have a question for AQ, actually.
Go ahead. How has, since Tooney's been kicked out, how has his replacement been? Because he's going up against Jalen Carter this week.
Yeah, I'm nervous. Like, I'm nervous for him.
I mean, honestly, again, they do such a good job protecting the entire group. It's always running the football.
It's always RPOs. It's always play action.
Very few and far between are you ever just drop back pass. And if they feel like that's going to be an issue, you watch.
They will find a way to chip Jalen Carter if need be. They can RPO, send a tight end here, and chip on the tackle.
There's so many different ways that they can help guys on that group, and they're all interchangeable. It's really good with that.
How come every coach doesn't do that or play caller do that? Why is Andy Reid the one who says, you know what, we got a little bit of an issue with our offensive line. Let's try to protect them a little bit.
Maybe we try to win. Why is he able to do that and others aren't? Listen, I mean, they want to get as many, most coordinators want to get as many

guys out on a route and the more times

you keep people in to chip and help, now it's

two-man route. So your two guys better win, right?

That was Bruce Arian's famous quote.

Every time we'd ask for a chip, like, hey, we got

Aaron Donald this week. We'll get a fucking chip.

He'd say, I tried to chip.

Who was the freak? They called him the freak down

in Tennessee. Javon Curse.

He's like, when I was in Pittsburgh, we chipped him. We kept this guy and we We kept this guy in.
And Javon Kirst still had five sacks. Figure it the fuck out.
Win your matchup. We're getting five guys out.
Hey, he's going to get to the quarterback at some point, no matter what we do. Yeah.
So we're going to get our guys out. At least have an opportunity to do some shit.
Okay, let's talk about a team that you know well. Well, a team that you did know well.
You were a player, a coach, and a Super Bowl champion for them, although you weren't there that long. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Mike Greenberg, not GetUp's ESPN's Mike Greenberg.
Tampa Bay Buccaneers Mike Greenberg, salary cap guru, salary cap gymnastics expert, absolute dog in piecing together rosters and handling it all. He is not going to be the Jacksonville Jaguars GM.
He has pulled his name from contention for that particular gig. Your thoughts on this? Is this Tampa Bay, Liam Cohen stuff still happening here? Or is this Greenberg not thinking he's getting a gig? What are your thoughts on this? It'll be taken that way.
But, listen, that's the way they've operated all the time. Like, they feel like if they have good people.
I know you guys mentioned it last week where you thought maybe, like, you know, they were doing that to shun Liam Cohen by blocking coaches from taking those jobs. Listen, the way they're looking at it, at least from the offensive line coach stuff that they did last week, is they went from bottom five in the league for the last however many years to all of a sudden being top five in the league.
They're not letting those coaches just walk. You're talking about Tampa? Yeah, Tampa.
They blocked Carberry, the O-line coach, and I think the assistant guy, they wouldn't let any of those guys. When it comes to him, this might be a little bit of...
This might be a little bit of old fuck you, Liam. Really? I don't know.
Who knows? Who knows? Maybe. Only 32 of those jobs.
Yeah, and Mike Greenberg, I guess, his name was up for a couple of the last couple GM cycles. Jets this year, too.
So, like, what he did in Tampa with Tom and everything that happened afterwards, Mike Evans

deal, relationship, everything that he's done

has been in the spotlight. I assume

he just thinks maybe he'll get a job in the future where he doesn't

care. I wonder how he actually

thinks that. And what's Jacksonville

going to look like?

Good question. Got a yacht out

here. Yeah.
Really nice yacht. That looks cool.

We talked about this yacht before

because I watched a documentary. He's got a yoga like gym.
yoga gym inside of the yacht. We need to go see that.
Yeah, it's in the back. He goes down and does yoga.
Cold tub buried. You can walk right on there doing tours right now.
I don't know about that. Three pools? Gotta have more pools than your stadium has on the yacht.
I understand that. Only two pools in the stadium down there in Duval.
Is Tony Khan still involved? Chief football strategist? Yeah, yeah. I assume he's still CFSing.
Then they'll still suck. They just hired Tony Buscelli for a role down there, too.
He's a football guy. He's like VP.
EVP. Who was that up in Detroit? Chris Spielman? Yeah, it's that role.
Spielman has a big part of that. That type of role.
So Jacksonville still needs a general manager. Yes.
New Orleans needs a head coach. Yes.
That's where we're at in the top cycle. Correct.
Yep. New Orleans is done though, right? Kelly Moe.
Yeah. Kelly Moe.
The interesting thing about that is it'll be his first time being a head coach, and he's going into a place where a lot of people think they're going to have to suck for a while because of the setup contractually. Yeah.
Is he going to get any grace, you think? I mean, you would assume so, but I mean, we do a lot of assuming. You assume when he comes in, his first opportunity, what are they going to do with Derek Carr, you know, in the foreseeable future? And obviously, we know the salary cap held that they're in, so you would assume that we give them at least a two, three, four year, you know, grace period, but who knows? They'll give them grace if it looks a certain way, right? Like if it looked, like if they're not getting beat by 25.
Who's quarterback? Carr? Feels like it. Yeah, but there's a report that came out that said the Saints really, really like Spencer Rattler, so they're kind of already setting him up.
You better fucking win with this guy. Who's the model? Jay Kaner.
Jay Kaner. He could sling it.
They had a good quarterback. He's a dog.
Spencer was on my flight down. I got a lot of respect for Spencer.

He was on a Southwest flight in a middle seat, basically, on the flight.

Spencer Rattler?

Yeah.

So he got on last because Southwest you pick your – Yeah.

It was awesome.

Probably last minute.

Just blending in.

I just need to get down.

I just need to get down.

I've seen a lot of people saying if they do suck,

it will be the return of the Manning to New Orleans.

And granted, who knows what that happened.

Arch.

Arch following in his grandfather's footsteps. The March for Arch.
Did you see see the video of him, Windmill Duncan? Yeah. Arch? Yes.
Freaking nature. Two feet, too.
We didn't get like a big run-up. This was like just a casual jump straight up in the air.
He was at that basketball game two weeks ago or whatever. He did like a little.
Yeah, I saw him do the fake jump shot. From that, I said that.
Well, Red Bull gives you wings.

Definitely not a hooper.

What?

From the fake jump shot?

Yeah, I didn't like it.

Elbow tight?

What are you talking about?

I think you can tell a lot from a guy's fake.

What did it look like?

What did it look like?

I missed the fake jump.

It looked bad.

It looked as bad as Ryan Day running the first base.

Whoa!

That can't be true.

That can't be true.

That was the worst video ever.

Yeah, how do we feel about that over there in Ohio?

A lot of interviews, a lot of base running. How do we feel about the post? Neil Bryan, possibly.
Neil Bryan? We lost both coordinators. How do you? So I did see reporters.
Neil Brown, like, he wasn't brought in for an interview, was he? No, it's a done deal, yeah. I mean, I'm still pushing for Ryan Hartline.
Put him in. Okay.
Is he making a Brian's brother? Yeah. That's Ryan and Brian? Well, he does have a brother, not Ryan.
Maybe his brother's name is Ryan, actually. Okay, so now we just offended he and his brother that we definitely have met before.
Hey, we're talking about him. We can't offend him.
No, Brian Hartline, dog. He was up for a couple head coach's jobs.
Yeah. He's allegedly the recruiter.
Uh-huh. Oh, yeah.
He's the one that everybody enjoys being around. He's a wide receiver developer.
Yes. Coaches his ass off.
That offense is going to be good. Who's going to be your quarterback? It'll be a battle coming through the spring and summer.
Julian's saying a lot of people are saying, but there's honestly two or three guys in the mix. Who are you going to say? They lost to our line coach, too.
Went to the Cardinals. Yeah, Fry.
How do you feel about plucking Jim Knowles from the Ohio State Buckeyes? Oh, yeah. You guys got him.
Oh, yes. Oh, yeah.
We're all in. Oh, that was you moving chips in.
Yeah, you see what I did there? Middle of the table is here, though. Wow, you know what I was doing.
Yeah, but it was like metaphorically. Yeah, yeah.
You were pushing the chips. All in.
Is that Kraft? Oh, yeah. Yeah, we talked to him.
You know that. That's Pat Kraft.
He's ready. This guy's the guy.
Dude, he. This is what you would want.
Drew Haller's the guy, too, right? We saw him on the sidelines of the Notre Dame-Penn State game. His shoulders are this wide.
Big 10 linebacker. That's right.
Now he's running the ship up at Penn State, shaking hands, getting massive amounts of money. Penn State, you guys feel like you're back, huh? Because everybody's talking about Ohio State going on, and they've got to win it all.
You guys now going all in. You've got to win it all.
That was a huge thing. Is that going to happen? Yeah.
I think Drew Aller is a quarterback. Jimbo Franklin.
No, yeah. Coach Franklin's got to win.
Win it all or bust. Yeah, he's ready to be a guy.
He's going to be. He went all in.
Ohio State went all in. They won.
They won. Here we go.
It certainly seems like if they don't win it all, there's one guy to blame, right? Who's that? Drew Aller. Jimbo.
There's going to be one guy to blame. He's got a burger.
We've given it all to it. We've given them all to it.
We've given them the coaches. We've given them the players.
We've went all in. You've got to win now.
How do you feel about your say in the Penn State ranks at this point of being an alumni? You were the celebrity captain for the coin toss. That was cool.
Old king of mammals.

Are you in the ring of honor?

I don't have one.

Hall of Fame?

I don't have one.

What the fuck?

The hell?

They got rid of all that.

My picture's on the wall.

Nice.

Have hair?

That's cool.

I did have hair.

Looks so cool, wasn't it?

So cool.

God, you look so cool.

Yep.

All right, as AQ does the Shipley Shuffle out of here,

ladies and gentlemen,

joining us will be a guy who was drafted in the same draft class as me, a guy that taught me how to punt. At one point, I think he signed like a seven-year deal to be the New Orleans Saints punter.
Won a Super Bowl down here, and oh, yeah, he's the one who hit the surprise onside kick coming out of halftime. Ambush, ambush, ambush.
At SMU. Ladies and gentlemen, New York Jets punter, Thomas Morse.
Yay! Thomas! I love it. Love the team Gleason shirt.
Jacked, man. Holy shit.
So jacked. It's absurd.
How do you get so jacked? Team Gleason shirt. Yeah, I love that.

Thank you, man.

Yeah, I appreciate that.

I've been working out.

Not as much as you, but I've been working out.

Boys, you're pumped to see you.

Oh, yeah.

You're pumped to see you.

As always.

Here's the head shit, if you can put it on.

Okay, so let's talk about the shirt.

Let's talk about Team Gleason.

Obviously, Steve Gleason, former Saint, former teammate of yours,

during the glory days.

I'm in hell for the Saints glory days.

I was on the other side.

You were.

Yeah, when you hit that little thing and then win a Super Bowl.

Remember?

My mom was crying in the stands.

She thought I missed the kick.

What a duff.

He just shanked it so bad.

Oh, no.

Shanked it 13 yards, this guy.

I've been watching him forever.

Mom English, I believe?

Yep.

Thank you. missed the kick.
What a duff. He just shanked it so bad.
Oh, no. Shanked it 13 yards,

this guy. I've been watching him forever.

Mom English, I believe? Yep.

Mom English, soccer. Jamie Cole was sitting

with her, so he talked her off the ledge and

said there's no way he missed it that bad.

Jamie Cole, kicking, punting,

snapping, coach, legend.

I have a lot of thanks to him, and

also a lot of thanks to Thomas Morstead,

who's been a punting coach.

I don't know what the percentage of guys that are in the

NFL or have been in the NFL over the last 20 years, but basically all of them. This guy is an absolute legend.
And with your season, you are raising money for Team Gleason and ALS research, I believe, so we can not – It's mainly for technology to help people that are diagnosed with ALS continue to live with ALS, be able to continue to be human, be able to communicate. And they also send ALS patients and their families on adventures all over the world to inspire people to keep living.
They do so much. The last I checked with them, they're getting 800 applications a month for technology for people to just be able to talk.
Okay, so ALS is a, and we watched Steve Gleason's story, I think, from blocking punt the whole moment with Falcons all the way through. Now, ALS, brain good body stops? Is that what happens? Yeah, so basically your muscles just atrophy.
They stop working, and they just atrophy.

And without medical intervention, most people will end up suffocate because you can't even continue to breathe.

And so you can get kind of like a pacemaker for your heart, but for your diaphragm now,

and basically be kind of like you're on a respirator, essentially.

And that's how Steve continues to be in a chair and continues to move around. And there's no cure, right, for ALS? Not that's known.
Not that's known. And you said they're getting 800 applicants a year or a month? A month.
A month. So how many people have a lot of people have ALS? Every time I go to an ALS fundraiser and an Alzheimer's, like anything anything that people talk about the amount of people that

are suffering from it. And we don't have a cure for like it is just something that happens.

There's a lot. And I think what's scary is that the rate of the rate of it's growing.
So more and

more people are getting it for some reason. So, um, which is the reason for continued, I mean,

other than getting support and people hearing about team Gleason and what they do, um, they're getting more and more applicants because more and more people are getting diagnosed. So this has just been a thing for me to do.
Steve's really helped me through my own trials that I've been through in the past number of years, and I want to do something to thank him. I'm like, who's encouraging this guy that's doing so much good shit for people all over the world? And you just be around him for two hours, and you feel kind of what he goes through, but then you go back to living your life.
That's his every day in perpetuity right now. And so I think any way that we can continue helping him be encouraged, feel loved, feel supported, he's doing so much for so many people.
And just him being alive is important. And so it's been an honor to do it yeah shout out to you and shout out to steve for uh you know being a familiar face that people can connect with to understand the story of what's happening to everybody else with that you donated money this year right i remember we talked about this it was punts inside the 20 and you were donating money right and i said i would match right So how much have we raised? How much do we owe? And how magical was the year? Well, the year was not magical.
I thought we were going to do a lot better. Not for the Jets, but for this.
It was a cool thing. A lot of support.
Punters and kickers all over the league donated their jerseys after games to kind of keep weekly donations going. And, yeah, so my contribution was $19,000.
And if you decide to match that, that will put us over the $100,000 mark. Well, I would definitely match it.
And congratulations, punters. Oh, yeah.
Raising money, helping out with Team Gleason. And, yeah, let's continue to innovate that technology so people can continue to live.
And please tell Steve that although we have not met, he has inspired all of us. And he's a badass.
And that block was a thing of beauty. You're talking about picture-perfect form.
I assume everything else is awesome. Let's talk about the season with the Jets.
What year are you going into? This will be 17. Damn.
Crazy. And we've talked about it.
You said go until the wheels fall off. And obviously, you have a lot of history here in New Orleans.
Bounce around to a couple different teams. End up with the Jets.
Now it's become a mainstay for the Jets, I feel like. Another year under contract up there with them, right? Yep.
What was this year like? Chaotic? Hectic? How do you kind of view it as a guy who's been there, done that with everything from Super Bowl to getting released and going somewhere else? I would just say it was a really weird year. We, you know, expectations are high, results weren't there,

and that makes it a really kind of, it's the worst kind of season to have.

You know, if you're a team that's rebuilding

and you don't expect to really be that good that year, that's a different thing.

We had high hopes.

We had hopes of playing this week, this season.

It just didn't happen.

And I was, you know, no one wants to hear this, but I was proud of how our group stuck together. It was a tough year, and being in that New York media market is something that's, I'd heard about my whole career, but I've seen it now for the past few years.
And, you know, guys came to work every day and continued to grind and continued to work, and there wasn't this fracturing that i think maybe it gets reported here and there so um you know just a tough year yeah yeah we followed yeah we did pretty close it was tough year tough year out there we learned a lot in an athletic article that was reported yes and then there was a lot of other things that were said you've been been in a lot of buildings. You've been around a lot of people.

Woody Johnson, this guy is a topic of conversation,

especially for the New York Jets and everything that happens.

What are your thoughts on Woody Johnson,

and what do we get wrong about Woody Johnson potentially from behind the scenes?

Well, I don't know what you guys think are right or wrong or what's even being said.

I don't follow too much of it, but I will say this.

If there's one flaw that he has, he's the biggest Jets fan in the world. He loves the team.
Obsessed with team. He just loves the team.
And so, you know, that's all I would say about it. I see a little bit of stuff that's said, but honestly, I'm in my own little world.
I see things from a different perspective as a specialist. You know, you kind of have the blinders out a little bit.
But most of the days you just go in there, do your work, and you're really only in the realm of people that you spend time with is the guys in the locker room and the equipment guys, the trainers, the people you interface with every day. So all I know is every time I talk to him, man, all he wants to do is win.
He loves the team. Yeah, he said in a press conference whenever they were introducing a new coach, which AJ has a question about, but, like, he talked about how I'd look in the mirror and be a better owner, too.
If he's obsessed with the Jets, it would make a little bit more sense. He's around.
I got questions. Hey, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I like that he loves the team, though. That's good news.
I like that he seemingly wants them to be great, too, which, you know, not every owner seemingly wants to do to do. Nonetheless, big turnover transition time for the Jets.
AJ has a question for you. Yeah, Thomas, obviously Aaron Glenn comes in there, great player for the Jets, and he seems to embody everything that the New York Jets want to be.
Have you had any interaction with him, and what do you think of the hire? I've texted with him a little bit. Biggest thing I would say that I could speak on is he was our cornerbacks coach in New Orleans for my last four years there, and then he obviously left with Dan Campbell to go to Detroit.
And so the thing I remember about him, again, not a ton of one-on-one time or things like that. He was super professional, just a very, very professional guy.
And, you know, I'm a huge Dan Campbell fan, so I've kind of watched the Lions path over the past four years. And so I've seen a lot of AG on the TV.
And I know for the past few years, Dan's really hyped him up as, you know, look, I hope we never lose him because he's a great coach. But at some point, somebody's going to have to give him an opportunity because he's going to be a head coach in this league.

So I think just from a personal side,

everybody that's in this business is striving to get to some goal,

and for him to be able to get a head coaching opportunity with the team that drafted him, I mean, that's like storybook shit.

Yeah, it's really cool.

So it's pretty cool.

Yeah, we're excited to watch it all unfold.

We can't thank you enough for stopping by.

Thanks for raising money for a great cause, and keep going, man. And thanks for everything you did for me, buddy.
I appreciate you. Dude, my favorite jersey swap of all time is the Pat McAfee number one jersey.
It just says, Thomas, you're my favorite punter. Got that one up in the house, so I appreciate you.
You are, man. You taught me how to do it.
Ladies and gentlemen, Thomas Morstan. Thomas.
Thomas. All right, Thomas.

Hey, a lot of good times down here, huh?

We're live.

We're live.

We're live.

All right, yeah, yeah.

We're live.

We're live.

We're live.

We're live.

We're live.

I was excited.

Yeah.

Who knows where he said he said, are you staying?

He was about to make a bunch of recommendations, I assume.

The NFL is in a great place as AQ Shipley Shuffle takes place as he joins us back here. Hey, thanks for coming back, AQ.
I almost heard the stone-cold music as I saw him turn the corner. He's a big punter.
Huge, right? I didn't know he was that tall. Huge.
And you should see his workouts. His workouts are ass-in-law.
He had a shaker. He shows up with a shaker, shaking up, drinking some kind of protein.
In the offseason he goes and lives up at altitude in Colorado somewhere and he like runs trails and shit. I mean he's just like, did you see how hairy he is? Oh yeah, Rocky IV workouts.
Yeah, I mean he is. So I, he like taught me how to punt like actually taught me form and everything like that and um, he went about doing his stuff so much different than me but you know the of all the same.
Very similar. I was at a I went to a camp in the offseason with Jamie Cole.
And we were just going to have like a morning session with some of the NFL guys. And, you know, I may or may not have shut it down the night before.
As you do. In Wisconsin.
Young lad. You know, don't get to see these people all the time.
Like, it's good to see you guys. Let's chit chat.
Let's have have a good time here in Whitewater, Wisconsin, I believe. Great town.
Good times. Good, nice little bars.
Hard to get out there at night, though. Not a lot of Ubers and stuff.
Sure. But I had one.
Great D3 school. Wasn't the only one.
Yeah, definitely. Great setup.
I mean, it was a fantastic place. So, we do that.
We go out, like, 8.30, 9 a.m. We're going to go hit some, you know? And that's a good place to, like, kind of work on some stuff.
Watch somebody else do their stuff. I assume this is what quarterbacks do.
I assume this is what tackles do, everything like that. And also, you know, compete a little bit.
Let's go ahead and do this. I get there.
Thomas Morstead. Houses, like, three pre-workouts, okay? Starts flipping tires on the sideline, flipping tires down the thing.
Had a hammer. I don't know where the fuck.
Hitting, I think, 35 minutes I watched him do a workout to warm up, and I was just sitting there the entire time. To warm up.
This is to warm up. And then he had music blaring, and then you see him on the Jets on hard knocks.
He sprints the length of the field before he goes out and does a kickoff or a punt or a hold or whatever. It's like he is, whenever it comes, like, his workouts and stuff, super intense.
But that's why he's able to blow up 17 years. We have to have the same class.
He's having more than double my career, and I love him. And his Gleason stuff is crazy.
ALS is crazy. Yeah, it's the worst.
It is. That's something you would think, like, Neuralink would be involved with.
Hopefully. Going forward, yeah.
How about them saying the big issue is your body becomes like, chokes you.

It's not really a brain thing, I don't think.

It's the scariest thing.

Your brain remains.

You just don't have the muscle even to speak.

Lou Gehrig's disease,

that's what it is.

It's the scariest thing you think of.

You're watching this Gleason story.

His life expectancy,

he has outlived it by far.

I went to a Pearl Jam concert in like 2015 at Wrigley Field,

and they brought Steve Gleason up on stage.

And he said like, you know, he introduced one of the songs,

and he was like, I feel better today than I did when I was playing football.

It's wild.

Ten years from then.

What's a Pearl Jam song that I would know or D-Butch would know?

Even flow.

Can you keep going?

Yeah.

Another one.

That's them?

Daughter?

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, you don't know.

That's them.

Only chances I'm aware.

Yeah.

D-Butch, you know that?

Yeah, Pink Floyd.

What?

Hell yeah.

Nailed it.

Easy.

Hell yeah.

Same region. Hell yeah.
Fucking Pink Floyd. D-Butch.
Better or worse? You know that? Yeah, Pink Floyd. What? Hell yeah.
Nailed it. Easy.
Hell yeah. Same region.
Hell yeah. Pink Floyd.
Better or worse? You know U2? I experienced U2. I know the bottom of the catalog.
We didn't see the hits, so. Yeah, I know the bottom of that thing.
I got a chance to see it live. 30, 60K? What was it? Last year? 60K.
60,000. Maybe our expectations were too high.
This time last year. 60K? No doubt.
This time last year, he was sitting in a full NHL, Vegas Knights uniform, and we were going that night to the SC. Are you still a member of the Las Vegas Golden Knights? Yeah.
I just honestly, you just, you know, wait for the fucking boys to call on you and you show up. So, man, I don't know.
You know, I think I want to say they're first in the Western Conference right now.

You don't know a big deal.

Well, maybe not.

Maybe the fucking Winnipeg Jets are up there.

How are the Panthers?

I saw they're at the White House.

I would assume we're cooking.

I think Gump's something we got a loss last night.

We've been cooking.

I think you're first.

Let's go to the back of the set here at Radio Row.

Hey, Gump, are the Panthers good, Gump?

Yep.

Yeah, they're still good.

Tough loss last night, but they're all right. Keep scanning to that whole island there.
Fuck boy island in the back of the room. Great set of men.
Yeah, I mean, that's Billy Coding, YouTube back there. Gumpy, obviously, Splunking through the entire internet.
That Talk's a laptop? Talk's not a laptop. No, that's his home rig.
Pack that thing. I don't go anywhere without it.
Takes it everywhere he goes. He got dirty, obviously, sitting next to Talk, getting the job done.
And then there's D-Bone. Looks good.
You know, and that's – look at him. Yep.
D-Bone's at Super Bowl. Mids playing slime soccer.
I was going to say Mids on miniclip.com. And that's mid football.
That's right. And then on the other side, Foxy, go back to you guys there.
It's a hell of a setup. The people that did this did a fantastic job.
You got Foxy, Zito, and Nick on the far side. Right next to Nick is a curtain there.
There is other people less than three inches from Nick's arm right there. Oh, really? They're getting weird.
It ain't Nick's in it. Like a different show? Great work, boys.
You guys did a great job with CFO Phil sitting up there, housing, coffee, overseeing. Zito, good setup, I think.
I love it. Foxy, how do you...

That's good. That's glowing.
Hell yeah.

That is a glowing review.

Foxy, how's it been? One of the smoothest

sets we've had in so long,

I feel like. Wow.

Barcode NT.

The whole set, like, I just

look around, I keep... Did you know that there's a drum

on the front of your desk? Yeah.

An actual drum? Yeah.

The actual Super Bowl Trophy

to The whole set, like, I just look around. I keep noticing.
Did you know that there's a drum on the front of your desk? Yeah. An actual drum? Yeah.
I just saw it. The actual Super Bowl trophy, too.
That's a drum. I think you could play that thing.
You could. It's not as big as Purdue's.
Is that the real dims, IQ? It's heavy. It's heavy.
I thought it was going to be, like, hollow. It's not hollow.
The lantern above your head, like, just the detail of the set. This is Mystic Scenicic Scenic Studio, I believe, is the company.
They did the same. This is the same frame, I think, as last year.
It's good. They just re-did it.
It was wonderfully done. Got a banjo up there.
Oh, that's cool. It's awesome.
A trumpet? This is awesome. New Orleans.
A lot of shit. Oh, yeah.
Look at him. Hey, American flag there.
That was a Gator. Out of football.
Here's a Gator. Is that a Gator? Here's a Gator here, too.
Gator. Can we eat that Gator? Couple Gators.
Troopers. Appreciate you, boys.
Shout out. Hey, they eat clean.
I wonder if you can't be fat because it's too hot down here. So wear that costume.
I'm sure we can find one or two. Troopers always one or two.
Yeah, but they're probably administrative. Yeah, desk guys.
Yeah, they're administrative. They're not on the road.
I think it's way too hot if you had to be in that uniform and mobile to be fat. It's too hot down here.
Yeah. It's like Arizona.
It'd be tough to be fat in Arizona. There's no humidity in Arizona.

You can get away with things in Arizona. It's 125 in the summer, though.
It doesn't matter.

You don't sweat. Are you doing a chef thing

down here? No, no chef thing. You don't sweat?

You don't sweat in the summer? No, because it literally

evaporates. That's why so many people

like, they'll go hiking

and they're not sweating, so they're like, I'm good, I'm good,

I'm good, and they're not drinking water.

Pass out. Pass out.

Heat is awesome. Yep.
Boom. Dead.
Dead. Rest in peace

to them. Rest in peace.
I guess. Fools, but

Thank you. and they're not sweating, so they're like, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good, and they're not drinking water.
And then pass out. And die.
Heat is awesome. Yep.
Boom, dead. Dead.
Rest in peace to them. Rest in peace.
Fools, but they should still rest in peace. Absolute fools.
Humpback, right? Camelback. Camelback.
Humpback. Well, they got humpbacks.
Humpback whales out of the ocean. Upping camelback.
Yeah, you go on top of camelback and you see humpbacks. That's what we're talking about.
Age, favorite thing thus far since we got down here in New Orleans? Well, I saw a few people cruising the halls that we get to see at Super Bowl every year. Good to see Glazer.
I haven't made the rounds exactly yet, but I'd say right now, Trey Henderson coming in here and Fred Warner. Fred Warner, honestly, is one of my favorite players in the NFL.
Might be my favorite player in the NFL, so it was great to have him on. Is he your favorite Mormon? I mean, I guess I haven't put him into categories yet.
Like, I haven't said favorite Mormon. Brady Papinga was a guy I played with.
So he's your favorite Mormon. Four or five years roommate, home and away games.
He really schooled me up on what's going on. So Fred Warner, top five Mormon in your life? Yeah, definitely top three.
Oh, Kyle Van Nooy up there, too? Kyle Van Nooy's up there. I don't even know all my friends that are Mormons.
Andy Reid. Andy Reid's a great Mormon.
Great Mormon. Yeah.
Is that your top Mormon? Is he a great Mormon? I think so. Andy Reid.
Is he a Jack Mormon? He's done great things as a Mormon. It's cool.
Yeah. That's a good way to put it.
A lot of Italians coaching here. Yeah.
The All-Italian Bowl, you might as well say, for the Philadelphia Eagles. Yep.
You got Big Dom running things. Sirianni doing his thing.
Vic Fangio, who was Fangio-ver not too long ago. You guys kicked him out of Miami.
We did. Ran him out of town.
What's that all about? Because he's tough. You know, it's relationship business, you know.
Sometimes guys just don't mesh. Meeting rooms don't mesh.
Personalities, players. Was it scheme? Honestly, his scheme didn't fit a soft organization i don't know what i know part i know uh jaylen ramsey was you know he wanted to follow and you know be kind of that guy be around the ball a little bit more he he is very scheme specific been running a similar scheme for a long long time but shit he's landed on his feet in philly and it's been working wonders so far dumpy you think that says more about the dolphins or victrangio i think it's a little of both.
We lost six of our starting defensive players at the end of last season as well. We had nobody going into Kansas City, but nobody remembers that.
You guys blame Vic Fangio, though. We had Bruce Irving, who we signed 24 hours before the game out there.
I love Bruce. Let's go ahead and remember West Virginia legend here.
Justin Houston was a great player. There was a lot of players that used to be great, though.
So why is Vic Fangio getting blamed? Why does he get run out of time? The players just didn't like him. Jalen Ramsey, Javon Holland both didn't like him.
I don't know why. Okay, that goes back to, is this more about the Dolphins or is this more about Vic Fangio? I'd say a little of both.
Anthony, we've had a good year. We did.
He was very good. Get some head coach consideration.
Oh, yeah, the Dolphins were lurking that whole time. They were lurking.
They were lurking that whole time. What happens with the Dolphins? I mean, Tyree Hill put out a groundbreaking tweet, so hopefully you listen to him.
What did he say, Gumpsh? He said, I hope we add better players and win more games. Holy shit.
Do you agree? And I couldn't fucking agree more. I never fucking thought of that.
I never thought of winning more games. Take care of you.
That's great. Retweet, Gums.
Maybe you guys beat the Super Bowl next year. We're only 20 million over the cap going into next year.
A lot of spots to fill. We'll be fine.
Hey, Super Bowl 60, though, could be the Dolphins. Could be.
We got Mariota coming in to be backup. Shefter pushing Mariota.
Dude, that was wild. I'm like, wow, I love Ust.
That's not going to get crazy. He thought that was, like, league changing.
Well, I saw somebody posted about fantasy football conversation. I'm like, what? Who is – are we missing something? Fools.
Hey, B, that's where the Dolphins are now, though. Is Tua good? Are we good to go for Tua all season? Oh, yeah.
He's healthy. His hip's good.
His head's good. We're not worried about his head anymore, which is good.
No, he'll miss six games next year, but, you know. No, he won't.
What? He's going to be healthy next year. Yeah.
Until he's up. But I agree.
He's going to start like gangbusters. What about Anthony Richardson? Let me tell you a thought I had the other day on Anthony Richardson.
Okay. I was sitting here.
I was scrolling. I saw something.
I said, you know what? This guy's so young. This guy's got such good opportunity and promise ahead.
This guy went and got the laser thing done like Josh Allen did. Look out, NFL.
Anthony Richardson is the next NFL MVP. That's what's going to happen next year.
Love it. Anthony Richardson is going to win the MVP.
This young guy got it figured out this offseason. I can already tell.
I haven't heard anything from his team. I haven't seen anything.
But I can just tell in my heart of hearts that he's got it figured out. I could be wrong, but I think he's younger than Shadur and Cam Ward and Will Howard and Quinn Ewers and all those guys.
Exactly. Young.
Not seeing anything. Not seeing anything is almost better.
They're not doing the hype videos. They're not doing the look at me.

They're just doing the work. Just doing the work.

And he's so young, he can still learn. I'm all in.

Bingo. Look out for AR5 next year.
Boom. Winning the

MVP. 2025?

Possibly you.

AR5. Bingo.
Look out.

I mean, it's all kind of written in the stars.

The NFL is at a place that is so

strong that it's going to be hard for anybody to catch up. You know, people talk about the NBA's ratings, and they talk about the NHL's ratings.
They talk about baseball existing. I don't hear anybody talk about baseball ratings.
Have you ever? You're so good that you don't have to. I couldn't even guess the number of people that watch games.
Like, what does he expect? 100,000? It's got to be a big local market. This past year was probably the biggest World Series they've had in a long time.
Because Shohei's in there. Freddie Friedman.
Dodgers, Yankees. Skeens is a star.
What about game to game, though? What about regular season games? It doesn't matter. I guess there's so many of them, yeah.
World Series averaged 15.8. That's a good number.
Huge. Yeah, that's a massive number.
But the season, there's no – like in my head for the regular season, I couldn regular season, if it's not a primetime game,

if it's just happening, what is a number?

Very local market, probably.

I would say Dodgers probably have huge numbers.

Jeez, jeez.

I mean, it's got a damn end table the size of a thimble.

I don't know what you want me to do.

Came out of nowhere.

How long have you been waiting to roast that size?

That's what I fucking saw the thing.

It's a good table.

Couldn't fit.

It does look cool.

It does look cool. I would say Dodgers probably do huge numbers.
Yankees probably do huge numbers. Mets.
Pirates. No.
Definitely not. Braves, maybe.
But outside of that, Phillies, I guess, was probably pretty big, too. But outside of that, very Cubs.
Maybe it goes up. How do they make so much money? Ticket sales.
Selling hats. That, too.
I got right now. They're selling hats.
Think about the amount of hats. And 80 home games a year.
Yeah. The ice cream in the helmet.
Concessions. Ice cream in the helmet.
Yeah. Oh, man.
Definitely. Baseballs.
ESPN games were 1.6 million per game. On Sunday night, you're saying? No, all ESPN games.
That's not true. What? Okay.
All right. No, I heard it was 2.6, Gump.
I mean, TGL's doing that number. You think TGL's bigger? We're throwing numbers out.
If you say average, yeah, if we're taking 15 mil. Okay, Gump, I'll let you finish.
If we're going to take 15 mil. Also, let me finish.
If we take 15 mil for the World Series game, you're putting that into the games that have 22,000 watching. 15 mil was on Fox.
He said on ESPN, you asshole. The World Series was on fucking Fox.
Okay, then it holds even lesser value than what he said, I guess. National TV ratings, both ESPN and Fox.
I'm not even listening. I'm not even listening.
Can you put it behind me over here? I love baseball. The Reds are going to be great this year.
They're going to win it all. ESPN Sunday Night Baseball finished the season with its most watched season.
Yeah, Sunday Night. That's prime time, Pat.
That's a prime time game. With average audience of 1.5 million, plus 6% increase year-over-year.
Fox's audience was consistent with last year's average, 1.8. Slightly up from last year.
4,000 more. That's a big deal.
That's pretty good. Meanwhile, MLB games on FS1 have increased 9% of the average audience.
So that's probably the one, right? Average. That's probably the 375 is probably where we're at.
Sunday night's probably – that's legit. Like, Sunday night baseball is fun to look.
It's good. Those are good matchups.
Those are cool. Anyway, sports still dominate.
If you look at the NBA's numbers and compare it against other things that are happening that aren't sports, NBA's still doing great. NHL's still doing great if you were to compare it to, like, a show.
Baseball, still doing great if you were to compare it to a show. The NFL got 4.7 million viewer average for the Pro Bowl games.
And it was a disaster. And it was a blowout.
And it was a lot of things. Drake May was in it.
No offense to Drake May. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
You do not have to throw that in there. Spinning it.
You do not have to throw that in there. He threw a great pick six.
Also, some great touchdowns. See? That's unfair.
What? That's unfair what you're doing right now, but I agree. It's awesome that sports are all the way up.
Let me reiterate or clarify what I meant by that. When Drake May was announced to go to the Pro Bowl, it prompted people like J.J.
Watt to say, let's just call it the participation bowl, please. Let's not call it the Pro Bowl.
So no matter what is out on the field, it can be flag football, it can be a tug of war, it can be a punt perfect, which was the most exhilarating and electrifying part of the entire thing. It's a great football race.
It could be the football race, obviously, where Micah Parson blows right through those. The big, cool spike.
Yeah, it could be. Well, that's Thursday night.
So with that being said, let's strictly talk about Sunday. 4.7 million viewers is a huge number.
Massive. And this is exactly why people say, you know, let's just get rid of the Pro Bowl.
They never will. They're going to continue to try to tweak with this particular thing.
But if you're getting almost $5 million on the Sunday, that is not supposed to be anything. That's just the Sunday in between championship weekend and Super Bowl weekend, let alone whenever they add another game and another bye week, and then the Pro Bowl games continue to go.
The NFL's numbers are only going up and up. That projected salary cap of 275 is only going to get more and more and more

with these TV deals. The NFL

is king, AQ Shipley, and this weekend

is basically a celebration of that as they'll topple

another number that nobody's ever seen before.

The ratings are always insane, especially for the Super

Bowl. Do you think that number ever

stops or it's just going to go forever?

It has to stop at some point. No, because

the game is getting more global and we're getting

more women and young ladies into the game.

Oh my God, I didn't even think about that. I would assume

it just keeps going up. We're talking about what's

Thank you. It has to stop at some point.
No, because the game is getting more global, and we're getting more women and young ladies into the game. Oh, my God, I didn't even think about that.
I would assume it just keeps going up. You're talking about what's going on with flag football and the high school level and the international level, Olympics, all that type of shit.
You would assume, you know, the average football for the day one football, fans aren't going anywhere. I completely forgot about the fact that I just assumed America would get stagnant at some point.
Agree. But we are at such an early point of this girls' flag football.
Yeah. And there's people that get mad at me for talking about this, that was happening on Sunday.
I was having a lunch date with my wife, Cheesecake Factory. Fantastic.
Delicious. No sound on TV, though.
Just TV. Okay? And I'm watching this flag football, girls' high school showcase flag football game.
The NFC is dominating the AFC, okay? So normally that'd be an immediate, what are we doing here? But literally nothing, can't change the channel, and it's on right in front of our face. So I started watching.
The shit I was seeing, I'm like, hey, they're playing ball out here. Zoom in on safeties, reading the formation, making checks.
They're doing audibles. They have pitch read.
I'm like, I didn't know. I did not know they were playing ball.
Like, they are checking audibles, deep shots. Now, are they going to overthrow? Yes.
Is there shit? It's high school football. Right.
It's high school football, let alone that it's girls or boys. They're not, like, pros at this point.
This is high school. It was like, I was incredibly impressed at the level of this shit at this stage, let alone where it's going to go.
You know, I was very lucky, and we got a chance to showcase a teaser yesterday. Like, I was very lucky to be a part of that NFL commercial spot, and Principal P is the dog.
Principal P, he hates those kids. Sure.
Just wait. I mean, Principal P ain't got time for these kids.
These kids don't understand. But he loved adding girls flag football as a varsity sport.
And then as you're kind of learning about what the mission is, it's like, hey, they want this in all 50 sports. And it's like, why not? If you have a football field on the field and they have the setup, they have the rules, they have the championship, they understand it all.
It's like football might be just getting started with a very large portion of people just going forward let alone where we're at now and it's like i guess the game can only continue to grow yeah that's a whole nother half of the population that i think can see themselves potentially playing or the future playing and it's being an olympic sport it's like yeah yeah i guess i think the game olympics are huge huge because now every every guy that was sitting there is like,

daughter's playing football now.

That's all I could think of.

She's going to the Olympics.

When I saw they were running this direct snap to running back who was also a quarterback, option play by pitch,

and then that person would sneak out into the flat,

and then they were on this other one,

and then the quarterback had to decide whether to run it or throw it. I'm like, there's a lot happening in that one play right there.
There's a lot of reading that has to happen. There's a lot of pitching that has to happen.
There's a lot of everything. All I could think of was Mackenzie going crazy out there.
Mackenzie, I think she's a lefty. So just like scooping and moving.
I'm like, yes, we are going to do that for sure. I think it's great.
I think the game's in a great spot. I do too.
I think COVID was the only year probably in the last 50 years maybe that the salary cap has gone down, right? I mean, that's the only reason. Like, that's the only way we can expect it ever to drop again.
So it's just going to go. People are going to boycott Super Bowl.
We'll see the numbers. Yeah.
Do you think bigger than ever? I think so. That's been the trend for everything.
I think so. Yeah, there might be like a little dip if the Chiefs go again, but that's only just because people don't want to watch the Chiefs, but to your point, more girls with Taylor Swift and everything are going to still watch, so it might just even eat itself out.
Are we going to get to the point where people just understand that she's good. It's good that she's a fan of the NFL.
No, people hate her. No, they're locked in right now.
Whatever they feel, they're locked in. Minds don't change.
Why? Just like politics, probably. Because whether they don't like her music or whether they don't like the fact that they even show her during the game, like those people who hate that are always going to hate her.
Yeah, but why can't you just like see it as good for a league? Oh, I don't know. All right.
I don't know. I don't think they think that broadly.
Well, to be honest, I think it has something to do with the ocean and the sun. Reflection.
I haven't really been able to figure that one out. I can't figure anything out.
I haven't been able to. There's people yelling.
I love that. A lot of excitement.
A lot of juice. Oh, there's some good juice.
Guy's got sunglasses on. Yes.
Let's get that thing up there. Let me see this guy.
Let me see this guy. That's Bruce Brown.

That is Bruce Brown.

Bruce out there directing traffic.

Great.

Five minutes.

Oh, okay.

That's not the right spot, I don't think.

Is that the Oikos booth?

I don't know. No way.

Oikos yogurt?

Yeah.

I think so.

There's Philly right there.

I'll tell you what.

He's John's got a good shot.

Who is that?

Who's on there, you think?

Phil Jackson.

Could be Phil Jackson.

That's Les Snead right there.

We're on the triangle.

That's who?

Les Snead.

Les something.

Les Snead or Ramsey?

No, Les Snead.

Les Bowen.

Les Bowen, I think, is his name.

He's a Philly reporter.

Les Snead in 60 years.

Who's this guy?

That's a radio station in Philadelphia. Got to be.
I like this guy. Look at this guy right here.
That guy. Yeah, I agree.
That field, the H. I agree.
It's field. It's Vanderfield.
I love everything about that. Shout out to local reporters, by the way, covering the sport.
The passion that is brought every single day to cover one team. Absolutely bananas.
Place is filling up pretty good. Yeah, it is.
Big time. It's going to be a madhouse the next two days.
AJ Francis is here. Shout out to AJ.
Oh, yeah. I saw him out there.
Pop dollar. There it is.
Pujada. Not nada.
Top dollar. It is filling up.
Holy shit. Is Dongo here?

Fun Dongo down at NXT last night.

Welcome back, Dongo.

Back?

Don't look now.

It's in time for Mania.

Yeah, you're right.

Right in time for Mania.

I didn't even think about that.

Yeah.

Look out. That is real.

Sideburns?

Yeah.

Look at the moxie. The moxie on Dongo.
I got to see what we're doing. Butch.
Butch. Don't do that.
I mean. What do you think? It's painted on? Come on.
Butch, that's his face. Looks like a goofball.
He actually doesn't even shave. That's it.
Guy's goofball. Hey.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Listen, we definitely don't like him as much as we like Dongo.
They're in Fondongo. This guy's cool.
Yeah. You should have seen the run he had, D-Buts.
Oh, D-Buts. Rival the tribal chief.
You don't think that's real? Pause. You don't think that's real? Now that I'm looking at it again, yeah, yeah.
Super real. For sure.
I'm starting to think his whole face isn't real. What? You think it's a mask? Is that one of those masks that they say some of those celebrities and politicians wear? What? AJ.

You're talking about the old man mask that we have?

You're talking about one of those?

Yeah, I got one too.

Those are clones. They're not masks.

That guy's not a clone.

That's not a mask. That's his face.

And he actually doesn't even have to shave it.

That's the way his hair grows.

Naturally.

That's what I've been told.

It stops right there.

And then it's got a crisp. Great line up.
Eyebrows, too. It's war paint, but just natural.
His hair. And on the other side, don't go.
Don't worry about that. He's the next Steve Austin.
He's got it. Alright, we're going to get the hell out of here.
We'll be back tomorrow. What a time.
Good to be here. Who do we have tomorrow? We have a big day tomorrow.
We have Puka, Jane Daniels, Eden Hutchinson. Wow.
That's a good lineup. Good lineup.
I'd say. Hey, Q, are you going to be here tomorrow? Oh, yeah.
You doing that chef thing? I've tried to ask you a couple times. I've said no.
What do you mean? What's said no a couple times? Why aren't you doing it? What's chef thing? He does it every year. He might be a little bad blood here.
No, no, no. Different group now.
Because now you've got bad blood. Different group.
COVID put them out. So a different group bought it.
They're running it. Now that guy that used to run the one that I used to do does one out actually in Phoenix.
It's called Taste of the Tour now because of the waste management open out there. Is that this week? Yeah, it is.
He was there. He slept in bunk beds with somebody because his group.
Top bunk. That's cool.
Ain't that right? Thunderbirds? Yeah, the T-Birds. The T-Birds run that thing, right? Yeah, T-Birds.
Hell yeah. Is this your first year as a member of the T-Birds running the Waste Management? Yep.
Are you guys excited about how things are going? Wait, why are you sleeping in bunk beds? No, it's not the bunk beds. We stay up there.
Late nights, early mornings. No, you said you guys sleep naked except in your red jackets and the blue jackets.
Blue jackets. Same thing.
Same thing. The beach.
Yeah. So it's not bunk beds, but it is.
You guys are twin beds next to each other. Yeah, basically.
Is it true that you sat down? It's like training camp. And you put your balls in the 17th green hole? I did not do that.
I thought that was initiation. Tradition? No.
Fire answer down there. Who'd you sleep next to? A guy snored? Darcy Hortuchuk.
Enforcer in the NHL. Hortuchuk? Hortuchuk? He's got a busted nose for sure.
What if he snores so loud? Wow. I snore too.
You guys got a TV in there? TV. Got a little kitchenette.
It's nice. Really? What do you do with your lotion? You just kind You just kind of say turn over? What? It's kind of one of those things where you do your thing, he does his thing, and nothing leaves us in the room.
That was wild. That was wild.
I don't know. That was wild.
I don't know how it works. I'm asking a question.
Is that what happened? This guy's problem. I don't know.
He sounded like he was talking from experience with you, maybe. I don't know what that was.
I mean, look, I know what you like to do in your hotel rooms. Hotel rooms.
This man can't help himself. So what you do? You guys are plying the course in the morning and stuff like that, the T-Birds? No, we run all the venues and stuff.
So all like the suite areas, we got to make sure everybody's happy. Okay, so you're filling up.
Everybody's got a different job. What was your job? I got a couple venues on the 18th hole overlooking the winning putt.
To do what? We got to get drinks in here? Yeah. So if, like, anybody needs anything, I make sure everybody's happy wheeling and shaking.
Are you on call this weekend? You're like big dumb. No, no, no.
When I get back, I get a hall pass. You're in the service industry there? You're in the service industry.
The thing wouldn't go on without us. What do you do? We love the T-Bird.
Amen. What do you get from being a T-Bird? You get to volunteer film get to donate 17 million dollars to the city of phoenix okay so you don't do it i got it you get to be a good person that's awesome it is fulfillment d but yeah you get to skip the line hey i'm a t-bird bitch okay right house cup you go house ground or something you do got a house cup because i know you guys wear that belt kind of watch anything you on the T-Birds.
Do you guys walk up here with, like, a T-Bird Stein? No, we don't have one of those. You don't have one.
Can you get hammered while you're working here? Get off some drinks. Okay.
Have a good time. Good time.
Oh, I can't wait for you to be in the hospitality tent. Beat the shit out of some patron because you've had one too many.
Yeah, because those kids, like, slide down. They get hammered.
Oh, no, it's a party. It is a party.
So you got to deal with a bunch of booze bags out there? A lot of them. You guys love it.
That's right where the T-Birds want me. That's right.
We like to have fun, but also we like to make the world a better place. That's right.
That's T-Birds. That's right.
Anybody's getting out of line, you're out of here. Oh, you guys are kicking people out? Kicking people out.
You guys can kick them out? Yeah. Yeah.
I've got two hours of post time to literally crowd enforcement. Yes.
Helping police out on Saturday. You're staying in post? No, I got two post sessions.
Yeah. Four hours of post.
The Thunderbirds? Do you take them down? Do you take people down, like spear them? Yeah, you can. Or do you point them out? Yeah.
You work with Scottsdale PD, Phoenix PD. So they give you a taser? No, no.
I wish I had that. That would be awesome.
They give it nine minutes. You don't think.
Give them guns. Actually, yeah, I got a clock.
He just stays at the post. He just puts it right to the temple.
Hey, I'm not playing. I'm a Thunderbird.
So, do you guys go through training? They show you videos of what's allowed, who you're allowed to kick out, who you're not allowed to kick out? All at your discretion. Oh, my God.
The Thunderbirds got a lot of power. A lot of power.
You got a bunch of booze bags rolling around the golf course, and all of a sudden you've got a blue jacket on. Hey, don't you look at me sideways.
Yeah, that's right. I know who AQ's kicking out.
Who's that? Who's that, Con? Let's just say D-Bud's not going to that. Oh, that's him.
It's on me. That's him, D-Bud.
Thunderbird. Don't do him, D-Bud.
Because he's an athlete. That's a problem.

Exactly.

I don't know. Eagles fans?

Hey, kid, would you like to clarify anything that was just said about you?

This is like a Hulk Hogan situation.

It's just typical con, man.

Typical con, man.

You have any regrets.

Pouring gas on the fire.

What fire?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

There wasn't a fire.

You actually started one.

Yeah.

I do believe.

But that's it.

I'll tell you what, it's great to be down here in New Orleans.

And let's enjoy it all. Football's for everybody.
Football's awesome. Football's going to grow.
126 million was the viewers last year's Super Bowl. 4.7 million on a flag football game.
I assume it's going to do big, but what does that mean? Who's doing the numbers? AJ doesn't believe any of it. TGL last night? Huge.
Great game. So good.
Great match. Foxy, you watch every single time.
Yeah, I missed this one, though. It was an absolute blowout.
Again, there's only been one good match. Last night it was 6-2.
The Boston Golf Club lost. Sorry, I would have switched my camera, but it's on Gump right now.
Okay, well, Gumpy doesn't deserve credit for that take because Gumpy isn't watching TGL. The Boston team stinks.
They lose every time. Every team loses every time.
I believe LA is undefeated, and last night was the debut of Tommy Fleetwood. LA is Alexis Ohanahan's team.
The guy who founded Reddit. It is, and Serena, yeah.
Yeah, I believe they are founders of that particular team. We must say, if we're talking TGO, rest in peace to Tiger Woods' mom.
Yes. That moment at last week's TGO where Tiger looks at her and has that moment.
Here's the video. Hey, Mom! Not going to suck tonight.
Okay? Just like a childlike interaction with his mom. So happy that that got captured, obviously.

She passed away.

So rest in peace to Mama Woods.

Obviously, massive piece of one of the greatest athletes in the history of sport.

And I'm happy Tiger got to have that moment on TGL.

Legitimately.

Now I assume it's going to be difficult for Tiger to walk into the TGL arena a lot. Because last time he, you know.

But nonetheless, TGL is still happening. and it's only getting better.
Yeah. They should have took this week off.
I would assume there's not many more weeks left because it's like once they get into the players. What happened in golf? Something happened in golf.
Big news. Rory.
Rory won Pebble Beach. Okay, I watched that.
Minus 21. There's an exemption for, so the, was it the USGA, who runs the US Open, said they will give an exemption to a live player in the top three, I believe.
In the top three in live points. Of the live rankings.
Yes, live points. Got it.
So everybody's thinking this is going to be DeChambro. Or Rambo.
Yeah, Rambo. Does anybody know the live rankings? Well, Ram already has.
Now, I would assume. So has Rom or DeChambeau won a U.S.
Open because you already have an exemption if you've won it in the past? And this is not the PGA. This is the USGA.
Yes. Which is a different group, remember, because the US Open's golf course is always so terrible.
That's right. And it's always the USGA.
The USGA is basically because of the US Open. USGA is basically the organization that keeps track of everyone's handicap in the entire world, basically.

Got mine.

Yeah.

What's your handicap?

I haven't checked.

I think around 12, 11, 12.

Pretty good.

That's bad.

That's not bad.

What about you, Aikush?

I'm like an 8-2 right now.

Jeez.

Really?

I thought you quit.

I just.

I take enough swings where whenever I do go out, I'm all right. You still get lessons? Good enough, yeah.
So I go like once a week or once every other week to like get 200 swings in, and then when I do go on the course – Once a week you're going to a lesson and you have an 8.2. You're a golfer, buddy.
That's a full-time golfer. Yeah.
He's abird now. He doesn't have time for it anymore.
T-buts just pulled up. 11.4.
Okay. Wow.
So what do you shoot, Nakey? If you go, what's the range that you can shoot? That's the problem. I mean, I can 77 to 92.
Which makes sense, because while you're 80, right? That's where you'd be sitting. Yep.
Perfect range. 77 to 93, maybe? Yeah.
Or 83? Let's see where I'm at. Yeah, I mean, typically I'm like 82 to 84.
That's really good. Somewhere in that range.
It doesn't work completely like that. It's all based on, like, how hard the course is, too.
The slope. Slope.
So you can go shoot an 82, but it's at Oakmont, and they'll put you at, like, a 3.2. You're playing at Oakmont? No, but, like, hard courses.
There's hard courses in Arizona. Dude, Oakmont.
There is hard courses in Arizona. This year.
Arizona's beautiful. The U.S.
opens at Oakmont? Oh, yeah. I love that.
That's East Hills of Pittsburgh, baby. That's over by Plum.
8-5. Wow.
Hey, Q. I didn't know that.
Son of a bitch. That's kind of a stick.
All right, let's go enjoy New Orleans. We'll be back tomorrow.
Bigtime show. Hey, Q, great work today, buddy.
You really did good.

Appreciate you guys.

Always fun.

Fourth year down here with you guys.

It's crazy.

How many years have we been here?

A couple more, right?

19, 20 off, 1, 2, 3.

So we did Minnesota.

We did Topgolf in Atlanta.

Yep.

Miami.

Miami, the little set.

Then it was COVID.

COVID, then L.A., then Vegas, then here. Now Phoenix.
Phoenix. Oh, the little set.
Then it was COVID. COVID, then LA, then Vegas, then here.
No, Phoenix. Oh, Phoenix.
Vegas. Yeah, it was pickleball.
So how many is it? So I think Radio Row 19 was the first, right? But including the 17, 18. That's crazy.
I think it's our fifth. I guess they said Mike and Mad Dog.
Mad Dog and a Mike. Mike and a Mad Dog.
Mike and a Mad Dog. They created Radio Row? Really? That's what people say? He would probably say that, I'm sure.
I don't know if that's true. I don't know him well enough.
But I guess they said they are the ones that kind of created Radio Row. I think that's kind of the notion, I think.
I thought it was Marinci. Well, we'll see about that.
About that. Celebrate some ball.
Be a friend, tell a friend, something nice might change your life. We're in this thing together.
We appreciate you all so much for allowing us to do this for a living. Team on me, team on three.
One, two, three. Team.
See you tomorrow. Goodbye.
Calling all fun lovers and memory makers, Texas invites you to cheer from our stadiums And dance like no one is watching Culture seekers can find the art that truly inspires And from our shopping hubs to our chic boutiques Fashionistas will never leave empty handed Texas is an unforgettable experience that's waiting just for you.

Visit TravelTexas.com and plan your trip today.