PMS 2.0 1291 - Luka Dončić Introductory Lakers Press Conference, Shams Charania, Bill Belichick, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

2h 56m
On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat more about the Super Bowl and some intriguing bets that continue to roll in, before going LIVE to Luka Dončić’s introductory press conference as a Los Angeles Laker. Joining the progrum to continue to chat about the trade and how it will be looked at this year, and years in the future before chatting more about what potential trades we could be seeing soon is ESPN Senior NBA Insider, Shams Charania. Later, 8x Super Bowl Champion, the GOAT, and current Head Coach of North Carolina, Bill Belichick joins the show to preview the Super Bowl, chat about how differently this time of the year is for him being a college coach now, what he thinks the most important factors of the game will be, and how he ultimately sees the game panning out. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow LIVE from Radio Row in New Orleans. Cheers.
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Speaker 1 Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdough on this Super Bowl Tuesday, February 4th, 2025. This program starts now.

Speaker 1 Football!

Speaker 1 Today is wonderful and obviously tomorrow we head down to the Bayou to New Orleans to join the festivities down at Radio Row for this particular Super Bowl between the Kansas City Chiefs and the Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 1 The guests will be in abundance. The conversation should be ecstatic.
And the city, from what I'm hearing, is a buzz. We cannot wait to get down there, but obviously that is tomorrow.
Today is today.

Speaker 1 We will be running the show until Luka Donchic

Speaker 1 introductory press conference begins with the Los Angeles Lakers. We were told it will start at noon.

Speaker 1 These press conferences normally run late because you got a lot of people that you got to get aligned. You got to have ownership, got to have general manager, got to have coach, got to have star.

Speaker 1 Now, all those people have people. All those people run into each other before they even get out to where the press conference is.

Speaker 1 So there's a lot of dapping, a lot of pleasantries, a lot of those things. Over under 1211 in my head, could be before, could be way after.

Speaker 1 As soon as that thing begins, we will send you right over to it because obviously this is the product of the biggest trade in the history of sports potentially.

Speaker 1 And Sham Sharania, our guy, newest member of the ESPN NBA crew, broke this news in a record-breaking tweet. That says 91 million.
It's now way over 100 million views as the hours continue to roll on.

Speaker 1 This man's 25 years old and

Speaker 1 because he likes to eat some food. Sure.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Even though he balls out, led them to the NBA Finals, plays at half speed so he can operate a little bit overweight because that's how he's played his entire life.

Speaker 1 Just because a GM doesn't like the way he operates and I guess they got rid of his like training staff, brought in some new crew in there.

Speaker 1 And, you know, they have new ownership in there now, if you do recall. And somehow they have all gotten online that they matter more than this guy.
Okay. Interesting.

Speaker 1 That is awesome. I hope the maps suck forever.

Speaker 1 Now, granted, I like Anthony Davis as well. We cannot kind of leave him out of this 32 years old.
We were told that the Los Angeles Lakers are going to build around Anthony Davis.

Speaker 1 Anthony Davis was so comfortable in his locker just a few days ago saying, you know, we get our point core in here, get in our center here. I think we go on a good run.
And there was reason for him.

Speaker 1 him to be incredibly comfortable because everybody talking about the Lakers was talking about how he was future of this entire organization.

Speaker 1 One of the most storied franchises in the history of sport, the Los Angeles Lakers are going to be led by Anthony Davis after the LeBron James era.

Speaker 1 They need to start building this team around a Unibrow. They need to start building this city around this guy.
Well, he's going to Dallas and he's going to be a Maverick.

Speaker 1 He said he can't wait for the next chapter down there to play for them. And I'm letting OAD.
I think I hope they suck. I hope you suck down there.
I hope they suck down there.

Speaker 1 I don't like what they did to Luca at all. I'm not even that big of a Luca fan.
Sure.

Speaker 1 I i just went to a pacers mavericks game here in indiana and uh pacers have a lot of fans pacers have a lot of basketball fans uh their tickets got bought by people wearing 77 jerseys for the mavericks he sold out our arena i assume he sold out every other arena he led their team to the freaking finals last he didn't do great in the finals they got swept by celtics like celtics swept everybody yeah that's that's what the celtics did last year they were a phenomenal team well he needs to get somehow they convince themselves that they're more important than this guy and i'll tell you what there ain't nothing i hate more than a bunch of suits that think they matter.

Speaker 1 And that is seemingly what's taking place down there in Dallas. Once again, Anthony Davis, not your fault.
We love Anthony Davis.

Speaker 1 But I hope Luca goes to LA and just goes bananas.

Speaker 1 I hope it is the Luka Donchick revenge tour. I hope he gets an eight-pack.
Sure. Actually, he might.
What if he does and he sucks?

Speaker 1 Then he's going to say, I told you, this is what I, I need a little slob around me. I need a little blubber.
I need to be able to bounce.

Speaker 1 It actually helps me stay in slow motion, which is what I dribble in in anyways, since he's got to the league.

Speaker 1 None of us who, I mean, I guess basketball people probably understand it more with the way his body positioning is. But as a kind of a

Speaker 1 spectator from a distance, grew up in Pittsburgh, didn't have a basketball team, would watch the lake show late at night because it was spectacular during my era of growing up.

Speaker 1 And I'm also kind of an insomniac, so I couldn't sleep. So if their games are on, I'm going to watch it.
But it's like, that guy's moving at the pace of molasses. That's never going to work.

Speaker 1 And then it just did. Then he just averages like 30 points a game.
And somehow he just is continuing to do it. And people know that he's going to move slow.
People know exactly what he's going to do.

Speaker 1 And he continues winning. He's like a 55-year-old man out there as a 25-year-old.
And they're like, yeah, that's what we're betting on. He's not going to be able to play for long.

Speaker 1 It's like, I don't know. I still see those 55-year-olds at the YMCA doing the same old shit.
Now, granted, it's the NBA. I get it.
It's a different animal.

Speaker 1 And maybe he will eat himself out of the NBA. But what I think is probably going to happen whenever he gets with LeBron James, I think they're probably going to go.

Speaker 1 And this dude has led a team to the NBA Finals to win the Western Conference. And now he's got LeBron on team and a couple other exciting whites.
I mean, J.J. Reddick, who played with him.

Speaker 1 I mean, there is.

Speaker 1 Congrats to the Lakers. So I'm excited for this press conference.
One half of the Hammer.

Speaker 1 Cowboys A.P. Tone is here.

Speaker 2 Are the sports books always correct? No, but we always say they don't pay for those chandeliers on their own.

Speaker 2 The sports books made the Mavs go from, after this trade, pre-trade, they were 16 to 1 to win the championship.

Speaker 2 After the trade, the Mavs went 40 to 1 to win the NBA championship. The Lakers pre-trade were 40 to 1 to win the NBA championship.
After the trade, they are 16 to 1 to win the NBA championship.

Speaker 1 The odds little... What do we know? We're just a bunch of football people.
Okay, we're just a bunch of football people who gamble. Okay? Sure.
But what do we know in this entire thing?

Speaker 1 Let's go to nine. Oh, D.Butch is here.
Toxic Table is here. Bill Belichick will be joining us in a second hour.

Speaker 1 But now, ladies and gentlemen, we send send you to Los Angeles with the introductory press conference of the new superstar of the Lakers, 25-year-old Slovenian man, formerly of the Dallas Mavericks, Luca Donjuk.

Speaker 5 Max Christie

Speaker 5 and Anthony Davis

Speaker 5 for their incredible service here. There's no player that

Speaker 5 played as bigger role to our 17th championship than Anthony Davis, who's also a person of incredibly high character.

Speaker 5 So those three guys are Lakers for life, and just want to thank them before we start.

Speaker 5 No.

Speaker 5 So,

Speaker 5 in thinking about today and what it means,

Speaker 5 I think Luca Donchich

Speaker 5 joining forces with the Los Angeles Lakers

Speaker 1 is a seismic event in NBA history.

Speaker 5 And the reason I say that is because we have a 25-year-old global superstar

Speaker 5 that's going to get on the stage of the most popular and influential basketball brand on the globe.

Speaker 5 And I think when those two powerful forces come together, it brings basketball joy to the world because that's how Luca plays. He plays with joy.

Speaker 5 And if you think about

Speaker 5 kids in Barcelona or kids in Buenos Aires or children in Shanghai or Sydney, they're going to be wearing a number 77 Luka Doncic Lakers jersey and bringing joy to basketball just like he does.

Speaker 5 And that's why it's powerful. I think the leadership of Adam Silver and the way he's bringing the game to the world.

Speaker 5 You see it in Europe, you see it in Africa, what the NBA is doing.

Speaker 5 And now we have one of the games biggest superstars, an international player coming to join the Los Angeles Lakers. It's a convergence of all those forces.

Speaker 5 And I think it's going to be something incredibly special that the NBA and basketball has never seen before.

Speaker 5 So to get to this place,

Speaker 5 there's a couple people I want to thank.

Speaker 2 First and foremost is Jeannie Buss.

Speaker 5 She's so supportive.

Speaker 5 I think her vision, which falls in line with the great and late Dr. Buss, to always make sure the brightest and best basketball superstars play for the Los Angeles Lakers.

Speaker 5 She's clearly carried that vision on from her dad. And I just want to thank her for her tremendous support and vision in helping this day become a reality.

Speaker 5 The second person I want to thank is anytime there's a trade or a transaction, there has to be a partner.

Speaker 5 And I want to thank the Dallas Mavericks,

Speaker 5 led by their GM, Nico Harrison, who was also very instrumental in bringing this opportunity to us and then staying true to the negotiations throughout where it could be culminated with the trade being finalized and Luca Doncich, Maxie Kleeber, and Mark Keith Morris becoming members of our team.

Speaker 5 So

Speaker 5 I wanted to thank those two people. And now we'll start with questions.

Speaker 7 Hey, Luca, there's the video the Lakers put out the other day of you noticed somebody was talking to you in Slovenian during a game in 2019.

Speaker 7 It's Kobe, and you turn around, you have the moment with him after the game.

Speaker 7 And just think, how do you go from that to then now joining the Lakers with LeBron James and just thinking of the legacies of those two players and you having the chance to be the next one?

Speaker 8 Well, first of all, I remember the exact moment that that happened.

Speaker 8 It will always stay, you know, in my mind. It was an amazing moment.

Speaker 8 Just for Kobe to know my name was amazing for me. And, you know, I just wish Kobe and Jiggy were here to see this moment.
And, you know, I'm excited about this

Speaker 8 new journey and happy to be here.

Speaker 8 First of all, welcome to Los Angeles.

Speaker 9 When you walk out and you saw all of us here standing here waiting for you to come,

Speaker 9 what's your reaction to seeing all of us here to welcome you to Los Angeles?

Speaker 8 Well, first of all, it's very nice. You know, there's a lot of people here.
I don't think there's ever been so many people in my press conference. So I really appreciate all the support.

Speaker 10 Luca, welcome to Los Angeles. I'm curious, what's your reaction been the last 48 hours to some of the comments coming from Dallas on your way out the door to join the Lakers?

Speaker 8 I'm just excited, you know, to be here, to start this new journey. And obviously,

Speaker 8 at some point, I knew this was going to happen. But I would say I always take the high road.

Speaker 8 I had my amazing moments in Dallas with all my teammates, coaches, and most importantly, the fans, you know, they always supported me.

Speaker 8 And

Speaker 8 it was an amazing journey.

Speaker 3 Hey, Luca, Dan Wacky with the LA Times.

Speaker 11 Welcome to LA.

Speaker 11 You, in a podcast with JJ years ago, said that the one NBA player that you watched was LeBron James.

Speaker 11 What is your kind of reaction to being able to now play with him, and how do you think that's going to work for the two of you guys on the court?

Speaker 8 It's just like a dream come true, you know. I always look up to him.

Speaker 8 There's so many things I can learn from him, and I'm just excited, you know, just to learn everything, and now I get to play with him. So it's an amazing feeling.

Speaker 7 Zaravo Luca, Jovan Buja with the Athletic.

Speaker 10 Just kind of following up on that, how do you see you and LeBron specifically? Just the two-man game between you.

Speaker 7 You both can screen for each other, hit guys out of the short roll, create playmaking opportunities.

Speaker 10 Just how you guys both see the game. Very few can see it that way.
Like, how do you see that fit from a passing playmaking and just two-man game perspective

Speaker 8 yeah I think we both make our teammates better I think our IQ is very high so I think that's gonna help everybody you know but obviously I really I really haven't think about basketball much these days

Speaker 8 but you know I'm just excited to work with him I work every day here so

Speaker 8 every day that goes by is going to be better.

Speaker 14 Luca, Kobe Price, SoCal News Group, welcome to LA. Got one for both you guys.
First for you Luca,

Speaker 14 I think you even wrote in a social media post that you know you thought that Dallas is gonna be a place that you're looking forward to win championships staying for your career.

Speaker 14 Emotionally, what have the past 48 to I guess 60 hours been for you in coming to LA?

Speaker 8 Well it was honestly it was hard at first.

Speaker 8 That first day was really hard.

Speaker 8 I felt like this last 48 hours was one month.

Speaker 8 Like two days ago was one month ago. So emotionally it was really hard.
But every day that I like today was much better.

Speaker 8 You know, I'm just very happy to be here for this opportunity. It's the Lakers.
It's one of the best clubs in history. So I'm excited to be here.

Speaker 14 And for Rob, you, Nico was speaking with reporters, I believe, on Sunday after the trade. He praised you specifically for keeping the negotiations between you two up until I imagine the final moments.

Speaker 14 At what point did you, I guess, introduce this trade idea to Jeannie, and what was her initial reaction when you told her about it?

Speaker 5 Yeah, so this all started with the coffee in Dallas, where Nico approached us with the concept. And

Speaker 5 because there was a partnership and a history of travel in the world between Nico and myself, working around Kobe Bryant,

Speaker 5 there was a fabric of trust in the discussions. And

Speaker 5 these type of deals are incredibly intricate and complicated. And along the way, we knew there would be 248

Speaker 5 insurmountable snags to get to the end. And there were.
And so over the course of, you know, three weeks, call it,

Speaker 5 an issue would come up, and we'd think there was no way to climb the mountain,

Speaker 5 and we'd figure out a way.

Speaker 5 Then the next issue would come up and you just keep going and you keep you stay committed to the work.

Speaker 5 you stay committed to trying to get the deal done in a partnership sense I think a lot of people talk about negotiations in terms of who won and who lost I try to approach a portney a negotiation in the sense of how do we build a partnership where we can get to the end and I think that was the lens that that we worked in the premise we worked under and when the concept was initially introduced to us it was hey the only way we can even have these discussions was if it's between owner and GMs.

Speaker 5 And there was a commitment to that. And if we broke that commitment by talking to anyone else, this day would never happen.

Speaker 5 So I think trust was at the center of all those discussions. And

Speaker 5 I called Jeannie after the coffee in Dallas and brought her in immediately, as I do with everything.

Speaker 5 Her and I have a really strong working relationship, and the fabric of that is that we share. we share things in real time.

Speaker 5 And she was extraordinarily excited and hopeful that we could get get to the end which we were able to do.

Speaker 15 Hey Luca and Rob, Melissa Roland, Fox Sports.

Speaker 1 Over here.

Speaker 15 I have a question for both of you guys.

Speaker 15 Obviously from the league's biggest superstars to fans, people were shocked that the Mavericks were willing to deal a 25-year-old superstar in his prime who has another 10 years at least ahead of him.

Speaker 15 What was both of your guys's, I guess, Rob, what was your level of shock that this was even on the table? And Luca, what was your level of shock that the Mavs were willing to deal you?

Speaker 5 I try to take everything in stride. I think,

Speaker 5 you know, it's interesting if all of us watch Luca play,

Speaker 5 he has a combination of basketball joy and killer instinct, which is really rare.

Speaker 5 That was number eight, number 24.

Speaker 5 And I think learning lessons from that mentality are to stay in the moment. And so I don't think of it in terms of shock, surprise.
I think of it in, okay, this is coming at me. It's like a game.

Speaker 5 You know, maybe a blitz is coming at Luca. He's not going to be shocked.
He's going to stay in the moment, figure out the read, and make the play.

Speaker 5 And so when the opportunity came to me, that was sort of my mindset is to, okay.

Speaker 5 This is coming. This is a concept that came to me.
Now, how do I process this mentally to get the deal completed? And right away, when it was brought up at the coffee, my mind started churning.

Speaker 5 There were so many complicated things. We have the Mavericks are hard capped at the first apron.
You know, the Lakers are up against the second apron. There's trade kickers.

Speaker 5 There's going to be a third team that's going to have. So my gears were turning

Speaker 5 about the deal

Speaker 5 the same way.

Speaker 5 His basketball mind is processing a play. And so I just tried to live in the moment and I I tried to carry that with me for three or four weeks as this was unfolding.

Speaker 5 And by staying in the moment, I think it helped us get to the end.

Speaker 8 I mean everybody was surprised. So you can imagine how surprised I was.

Speaker 8 I was almost asleep so when I got a call I had to check it was it was April 1st. I didn't really believe it at first.

Speaker 8 And it was a big shock. It was hard moments for me.
It was home. So it was really hard moments for me, especially the first day.

Speaker 8 But as I said, you know, I get to play in the greatest club in the world, and I'm excited for this new journey.

Speaker 16 Luca, over here on your left, Malika Andrews with ESPN. It's good to see you.
Welcome to LA.

Speaker 16 You've been a fan of LeBron. You've talked about it for a long time, but he's also been a fan of you.

Speaker 16 He's tried to work with you at various different times in the past, whether it be shoe deals or other things. I'm curious,

Speaker 16 what message did he reach out to you with? Was it a text? Was it a call? What was that? And how did that fuel the way that you think about coming to LA as well?

Speaker 8 Yeah, he called me right away.

Speaker 8 He was in New York, so he called me right away.

Speaker 8 And we didn't talk much because, you know, he said, I understand what you're feeling.

Speaker 8 But that was really nice of him just to call me right away and welcome me to LA.

Speaker 17 Hey, Luca.

Speaker 18 We've heard from so many other players across the league, Anthony Edwards, Steph Curry, Yannis, talking about their shock at this and also what it means for how teams feel about players and how no one's really safe, quote unquote, to use Steph's words.

Speaker 18 What have players said to you and what has it meant to you to have them speak out the way they have?

Speaker 8 I saw some comments.

Speaker 8 I wasn't really trying to be on social media these days, but I saw some comments and it really means a lot. You know, we are rivals and they speak about me

Speaker 8 that nicely, so

Speaker 8 it really means a lot to me. And sure.

Speaker 8 Oh, directly. I haven't talked to a lot of people, really.

Speaker 19 Hey, Luca, Nikki Kay with Spectrum News, right here.

Speaker 19 So emotionally, you go from thinking you're going to spend your career with one fan base, and now you arrive in a new city.

Speaker 19 First of all, impressions of Los Angeles and its fans from afar. And what does this opportunity to you know have another love story with LA goes?

Speaker 8 Yeah I would say

Speaker 8 like you said I thought I was gonna spend my whole career there

Speaker 8 because I think loyalty is a big word for me and I was trying to stay by that but this for me is a fresh start. I get to play in LA the fans are amazing

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 8 I got the ocean here so It's a really big thing for me.

Speaker 8 But really, I'm really excited to be here

Speaker 8 I getting to play for the Lakers, and I hear everybody can say that. And many, many legends pass here, many, many championships.
So that's my goal.

Speaker 20 Luca, Brad Townsend, Dallas Morning News.

Speaker 20 So you wrote a Dear Dallas letter to fans. It was, you know, very heartfelt.

Speaker 20 And you talked a little bit about, you know, your shock.

Speaker 20 How are your feelings toward the upper levels of the organization, you know, Nico in particular,

Speaker 20 the decision to trade you?

Speaker 8 Well, I mean, that's their decision so I have no comment on that.

Speaker 8 They made the decision I don't know why

Speaker 8 so but that's their decision so I can't do nothing about it.

Speaker 20 And then one of the reasons that was given was that there was concern that

Speaker 20 you know beyond this summer or that you there's a chance you might not agree to the Supermax extension. Did anyone on did you or anyone on your inner circle indicate that that might be the case?

Speaker 8 Absolutely not.

Speaker 5 Luca over here, Bill Plaschy, LA Times. Do you feel you have something to prove?

Speaker 5 Do you feel you have something to prove?

Speaker 5 Do you think you have something to prove?

Speaker 1 Oh, okay, sorry.

Speaker 8 Yeah, obviously, yeah.

Speaker 8 Yeah, that's it. Win the championship.

Speaker 8 You don't come here for nothing else than championships, so

Speaker 8 I have everything left to prove.

Speaker 8 And the goal is to win the championship.

Speaker 13 Luca, good to see you. Mark Medina with Athlon Sports and Sports Akita.
How do you address the criticism that's followed you on your way out about concerns about conditioning and durability?

Speaker 8 It's a motive.

Speaker 8 I know it's not true,

Speaker 8 I know.

Speaker 8 But it's a motive. Like I say, you know, I came here, one of the biggest clubs in

Speaker 8 history of sports, so it's a big motive

Speaker 8 for a long run here.

Speaker 5 I'll just add to that one, Mark.

Speaker 5 I think greatness is an evolution in a process.

Speaker 5 And I think if you're striving for perfection as we are as an organization or as a player is,

Speaker 5 you're going to have challenges to make yourself better until you don't play anymore. And so I think That's just something to keep in mind.

Speaker 5 We're getting, I would assume the question will be forthcoming, when is Luca going to play? I'd rather just take that one head on.

Speaker 5 Our sports performance department is led by Dr. Leroy Sims.

Speaker 5 Luca's got

Speaker 5 trusted sports performance folks that are going to become part of our family and Dr. Sims circle.
And they're working together as we speak about a return to play plan.

Speaker 5 We have five on five scheduled tomorrow for Luca,

Speaker 5 and we're going going to take it one day at a time just to make sure that the calf injury is in a good and safe place.

Speaker 5 So I would truly say at this point he's day to day. We're going to take it one step at a time.
But if all those

Speaker 5 days go well and Luca feels good and confident

Speaker 5 he'll be in a game soon. But we're going to partner with him.

Speaker 5 And I should mention, too, his amazing team who's now part of our family led by Laura Beth and Bill Duffy and the rest of the folks that are here today.

Speaker 5 When we make decisions around superstar players and

Speaker 5 we partner and collaborate with them and that'll be our process with Laura Beth and Duff who are incredible at what they do.

Speaker 13 Jared Greenberg with TNT.

Speaker 21 Rob, you stole my question there.

Speaker 12 I was going to ask Luca.

Speaker 13 You know, I guess more about that, just hear from you what, you know, what this process has been like. You've gone through now four times with this cap.
So what have you done to get back on the court?

Speaker 21 How are you feeling?

Speaker 13 And how confident are you that this won't be a reoccurring injury?

Speaker 8 Well, for the first time, I took my time.

Speaker 8 Get it to heal 100%.

Speaker 8 Other times, I think I just wanted to go back on court playing basketball and not really be healthy 100%.

Speaker 8 So this time I just took my time,

Speaker 8 which was a normal amount of time, to get back to 100%.

Speaker 12 Luca, David Pingalore, KTLA.

Speaker 12 You know over the last couple days I talked about your conditioning but maybe your lack of defense. What is your commitment to being a better defender?

Speaker 8 Yeah, I think this year was really I really

Speaker 8 stepped it up honestly and it's just being more active, more vocal. And

Speaker 8 I think I did a step ahead this year,

Speaker 8 but I need to do more steps ahead. So that's what I'm planning on.

Speaker 22 Hey, Rob, just obviously make a blockbuster move like this.

Speaker 22 What is your balance of thinking long-term with 25-year-old and then also just the short-term knowing that the deadline is coming up on Thursday?

Speaker 22 Just balancing the long-term vision with the short term?

Speaker 5 We know that our roster

Speaker 1 has

Speaker 5 continued work to do to become complete. And just to be clear around the vision for our roster, we're going to build a roster that fits J.J.
Reddick's philosophy, his basketball philosophy.

Speaker 5 That's something that we believe in, that we support, that we want to lean into. So in terms of roster decisions, JJ and I collaborate extensively around that and fitting how he wants to play.

Speaker 5 We know we have a need for a big.

Speaker 5 The market for bigs right now leading into the last two or three days of the trade deadline,

Speaker 5 is very

Speaker 5 dry. There's just not a lot available.
So maybe we'll be able to do some stuff around the margins.

Speaker 5 I would say in terms of a big move for that position, it's probably more realistic that that would be something that comes in the offseason.

Speaker 5 But Luca,

Speaker 5 will be at the center of that as we build for the long term.

Speaker 5 We want to format a team that fits JJ's coaching style and his strengths and his needs to help us win a championship with the other people that are also on our team right now who are going to be a big part of that winning as well.

Speaker 5 But your question was about long term, so I'm speaking more to long term.

Speaker 7 Luca, I know you had about 13 games as a teammate with JJ in Dallas and just wondered what that was like for you, the relationship that you formed, and then your thoughts about playing for him as a coach.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I mean, first of all, he couldn't move at all. So it wasn't really,

Speaker 8 no, but it was a great relationship. You know, I really respect him.

Speaker 8 You don't see me go on podcasts. I went on his podcast twice, so

Speaker 8 you know how much respect I have for him. So I'm really excited that I can play for him.

Speaker 1 Rob.

Speaker 1 Rob, good to see you.

Speaker 10 Along the same lines with the trade deadline and all of that, the window for Luca, 25 years old, coming off of finals appearance last year, LeBron, 22nd season 40 years old

Speaker 21 like

Speaker 10 what's the urgency level to have this team in the immediate future reach championship contender status and whether that immediate future is between now and Thursday or the offseason going into next year?

Speaker 10 Just kind of what is the view in terms of the timeline to get this team to be able to contend?

Speaker 5 The urgency is ever present

Speaker 5 from the first day I started taking this job until I sit in the chair right now. There's always an urgency to win championships.
That's what the Lakers set out to do.

Speaker 5 That's the expectations of our fans, and we're going to put in the work to constantly try to do it. At the same time, you have to be realistic.

Speaker 5 And if there's not a championship big on the market right now, I can't wave a wand and create that opportunity. We'll continue to work and look for areas that we can complete and fill out the roster.

Speaker 5 But as we saw with this trade, it takes two teams.

Speaker 5 But we'll continue to build. Luca and I spent some time yesterday up in my office just talking about the players on our roster he's played with and

Speaker 5 kind of what he sees as sort of short-term and long-term needs. And I think we'll continue to have those basketball discussions and get this roster to a championship level.

Speaker 11 Luca, Mike mentioned J.J. Reddick, your former teammate.
You've got Maxie and Markefe over there.

Speaker 11 Dorian Finney-Smith is a player you've spoken very highly about in the past. Greg St.
Jean was a coach you've worked with. How is that going to help as you

Speaker 11 take on this crazy life change, having all these familiar faces be here for that transition?

Speaker 8 I think that's a really good thing, you know,

Speaker 8 to have to come to a new place but still know some people. And I think that's

Speaker 8 mentally, I think that's a really good good thing. And they're going to just help me.

Speaker 8 The guys that were here, they'll help me

Speaker 8 learn new stuff about LA, about the team. And, you know, it's just helpful to see friendly faces.

Speaker 17 Edwin Garcia, Silver Screener Roll. My question is for Palinka.

Speaker 17 Rob, when you're talking about a championship caliber big and aligning with JJ Reddick, what do you think the values in that position are required in the modern NBA?

Speaker 5 Versatility, mobility,

Speaker 5 a vertical lob threat. I think that's a key to the spacing that Luca likes to play with.

Speaker 1 Competitive,

Speaker 5 I think those are some of the core things there.

Speaker 5 Those players are hard to find, but we're going to

Speaker 5 We'll accomplish the task that's before us. We'll find a way.

Speaker 23 Rob,

Speaker 1 over here.

Speaker 24 As far as just the future and the moves that you're going to be making, designing the roster or planning, how beneficial and important is it for you just to know you have Luca, you have maybe a decade that you can use as a roadmap in terms of just every decision you're looking to make?

Speaker 5 It's a gift. We're talking about a 25-year-old that

Speaker 1 is

Speaker 5 top three player in the universe.

Speaker 5 I can't think of a

Speaker 5 more amazing starting point to build a roster for the next decade. And

Speaker 5 I know he has the drive to win that we have here.

Speaker 5 Our fans are going to see that every night on the court.

Speaker 5 I know up here he might seem calm and casual and quiet, but we know the alter ego comes out. And we'll see it at crypto.com soon.
And I can't wait for it.

Speaker 5 Thanks, everyone. Do a jersey photo?

Speaker 1 As they get an official photo, J.J. Reddick comes in to dap up his newest player for his team, Luca Donchik, officially announced as Los Angeles Laker.
That's 77 jersey.

Speaker 1 Kyle Hamilton of the Baltimore Ravens put out a great tweet about it. He said, you're about to see that in every single frat house across the entire country.

Speaker 1 And that is just, that's a statement of fact right there. Lakers 77 with Dauntrick across the back.
That's going to move.

Speaker 1 And, you know, it's hard as you listen to that to think it all started with a cup of coffee down there in Dallas. And every answer that he gets, first of all, he looks pretty thin.
Looks pretty fit.

Speaker 1 He does. He looks pretty fit.
You know, every time J.J. Reddick was mentioned, Luca would smile.
Really? The only time that he would smile, I don't do a podcast. I do this twice.

Speaker 1 So you tell me I like that.

Speaker 1 And he talked shit to him, too. He said, go and move.
So, I mean, it's a real thing. It's almost like a perfect situation here for the Los Angeles Lakers.

Speaker 1 I appreciate the fact that Polinka had two zippers on his jacket. Yeah, awesome.
One in the attic, one in the basement. Yeah, a little too much.
Just kind of give a little sauce.

Speaker 1 This is a big moment, biggest trade in the history of the NBA. He should be incredibly proud of himself.
I don't look at it as who won, who lost the trade.

Speaker 1 I look at it as a partnership to get the deal done. Okay.
I'd be looking at it that way, too, if I was Rob Polinka. Once again, Anthony Davis is a dog.

Speaker 1 But if we start thinking about the situation that got Luca to Los Angeles at the age of 25, five out of his first six years in the NBA.

Speaker 4 First team all NBA.

Speaker 1 Okay, last year, fresh off at NBA Finals.

Speaker 4 First team all NBA last year as well.

Speaker 1 Okay, so all these things. Now he's joining LeBron, and he has 15 more years if he wants to.

Speaker 1 They talked about the sports performance team, obviously meeting up with Luca, coming out of the calf injury.

Speaker 1 There's the two other gentlemen that got straight. Congratulations to all the boys.
Yeah, boys.

Speaker 1 Morris is a dog. yes he is i mean that's a great i mean there is a lot not like the caucasian on the right there who i do not know enough about

Speaker 1 stroke it okay so if he can stroke it you got ball dominant you got lebron as well so if you got a buddy in the corner okay all of a sudden we got mike miller yeah all of a sudden we're doing what we got to do over there in the corner and maybe jj even starts putting up there and just sits on the side and starts draining shots congrats to the lakers and congrats to us having a chance just there press conference for 30 minutes yeah that was fantastic i feel like I learned a lot.

Speaker 1 You know, Luca, not a man of many words. Don't do many podcasts.
No, he doesn't like those podcasts. I don't think I knew he had that strong of an accent.
Don't think I had heard him talk much.

Speaker 1 But then whenever he talked about this is the most amount of media he's ever been at in front of for a press conference, you immediately said it, Dee, but what a market for Luca to go into, especially at the age of 25.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I think that's the biggest part of this. And I think, you know, his jersey is probably in the top 10 in sales, I would assume.
It'll be number one

Speaker 9 for the next probably decade or so because you're going out to that huge market. Like, I mean, we were in the middle of watching this still.
Like, I can't believe this is real.

Speaker 9 Like, a 25-year-old, we would assume, still at the peak of his career, fresh off of finals appearances, you know, first team all NBA pretty much every year, like, to be paired up, LeBron out in L.A.

Speaker 9 I mean, we were talking about the NBA not being as popular as it's, you know, and it's really been declining now. You know, we got the biggest trade in probably sports history.

Speaker 9 But man, this is this is incredible, man. Luca, Luca in L.A., wow.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 the trade happening, you know, just a few days before the Super Bowl. Smart.
Just the NBA saying, not that they did this. This wasn't a plan thing.
This wasn't a work. No.

Speaker 1 Obviously, this would not work for the NBA for the good of the association as a whole. But it is nice to be like, hey, you guys, league in how many days? Just

Speaker 1 remember, you know, we got Luca and LeBron now. You know, Luca and LeBron.
We got dumbasses running teams, you know, down here. I still

Speaker 1 cannot believe that, and maybe I have it wrong.

Speaker 1 Can you face time shamps please uh we need cold call shamps so started with a coffee in dallas he said and i don't know if i knew that i guess we probably should have maybe we did where they approached us with this thing the people at the dallas mavericks once again new ownership remember mark cuban sold a majority weight and there's a casino and there's a bunch of conversation everything new ownership i guess new ad new performance staff down there new everything somehow They convince themselves that they are more important to the Dallas Mavericks than Luca.

Speaker 1 Somehow, they convince themselves that Luca needs to be like them. They don't need to be around Luca.
Now, we are NFL people, so we are a big, hey, player, get in where you fit in.

Speaker 1 You're lucky to be here. In the NBA, that's not how it works.

Speaker 1 Especially if the guy is the guy, which is what Luca has been literally since he got there. So I do hope that the Suits in Dallas suffer.
terribly from this.

Speaker 1 I don't know if that's possible with Kyrie and AD on the same team. I don't know, you know, with all the things that could potentially happen with them.
Like, I don't know their team well enough.

Speaker 1 I don't, I assume that they're going to do okay in this entire thing. They had A.D.
and Kyrie on a team, but it's like, think about being in that meeting when they thought they had it all.

Speaker 1 They were the smartest people on earth. Whenever they're like, we don't need this guy.
He didn't even listen to us. We tell him one Increstable.
He eats two. It's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 This guy, we tell him he needs a pass the ball more. He doesn't.
This guy continues to play like who? Like he's Luca Doncha? Okay.

Speaker 1 Like them thinking and getting to that point where they're like, we got to get him out of here. Actually, we need to start calling people.
Who should we call? How about the Los Los Angeles Lakers?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, let's go get, let's get a coffee with Rob Palinka and let's pitch him on getting this problem, this five-time all-NBA player, this leader of our franchise, this top three player on earth, this 25-year-old, this guy that led our team to a NBA finals.

Speaker 1 Let's get him the hell out of here because we got it right and he's wrong. I love everything about that.
I love that they were able to get to that point

Speaker 1 mentally. And I think that is, and this could be a freezing cool take.

Speaker 1 take, and it's cool because we're not really basketball people, but if those people are able to do that, just think about all the other dumb shit that's possible, you know, just on a day-to-day down there, that entire thing.

Speaker 1 Now, they might have a vision that's much better than us. Once again, we don't know basketball as well, but we do know that when superstars come around, every once in a while, you got to,

Speaker 1 hey, let's just get them to the game. Pretty much.

Speaker 1 Let's go ahead and try it. And he talked about having, Rob Blink has said, we got to build a team in J.J.
Reddick's vision. You know, what do we need? We need some vertical.
We need some physical.

Speaker 1 We need some mobility. We need some this.

Speaker 1 Lob threat yeah so lob threat down court he's like he started talking about all these things and it's like i think they understand what they have but they were they were going to build around anthony davis so now they got to pivot completely to a very different style of ball very different building i think that's why he said it takes a lot of pieces to get into this and they didn't even address danny ainge at utah saying that i

Speaker 1 what i sent luca to the Lakers.

Speaker 1 That's what Danny Ainge came out and said, who ran the Celtics for a long time. Now he's with the Utah Jazz with Ryan Smith.
That was Ryan Smith's first hire.

Speaker 1 Whenever he got ownership of the team, he was like, bring me Danny Ainge. This guy knows who he's talking about.
And he was on the record of saying,

Speaker 1 I had no idea that was even possible. I didn't know we did that in the NBA.
I didn't even know that was a decision.

Speaker 1 So it feels like everybody in the NBA is seeing it the same way we are, which makes me feel kind of good about sports people because we're just human people as opposed to sport people.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and Danny Ainge played for the Celtics during like the heat of the Celtics-Lakers rivalry. So you'd assume he would never, ever in a million years try and help out the Lakers.

Speaker 4 But when you guys mention it being kind of a work like the NBA basically saying, hey, we need to mix this league up, it's almost so stupid that even they couldn't kind of conjure up something this absurd like moving Luca

Speaker 1 LA. Yeah.
What's an idea? What's an idea? What's an idea? The Mavericks don't want Luca anymore, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's fat. Yeah.
That's dumb. Nah, that won't work.
No, no, no. Nah, it's too absurd.
Because he just made it to the finals last year. Right? So that would be a tough one.
Let's do it with Zion.

Speaker 4 One of the greatest starts to the history of a career. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Let's go.
Kind of New Orleans. Hold on.
Hold on. Let's go to New Orleans.

Speaker 4 But, like, it is that crazy. And I think, Giannis, to what you guys were saying, kind of just about

Speaker 4 the expansion and kind of the exposure Luca gets now.

Speaker 4 Giannis mentioned, like, this is the greatest thing of all time for kind of like European basketball players for, you know, the entire global game.

Speaker 4 He actually said, like, I hope Nicola Jokic gets traded to the Knicks because then, like, another, you know, prime time player in the biggest market in the entire country.

Speaker 4 And that's what Luca with the Lakers is.

Speaker 1 Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, senior NBA insider for ESPN, the man who broke this trade that we are still talking about it days later and probably will for decades.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, Shamsranya.

Speaker 1 Shams, we just watched the press conference. We aired the press conference.
Rob Palenka always wear double zips. Always wear double zips.

Speaker 27 Shout out to Rob Palenka with the jackets.

Speaker 27 He's got some swag with those jackets, I gotta say.

Speaker 1 We did a little research on him. Obviously, he's a raw, blow-looking son of a bitch.
Yeah, very handsome, this guy. And then he played basketball at Michigan, Michigan.
Was Kobe's business partner.

Speaker 1 He was Kobe's

Speaker 27 agent partner.

Speaker 1 Business partner. Okay, so as he's talking, we're learning more.
And then he's talking about the deal. And it's not about who wins.
It's about a partnership to get to the finish line.

Speaker 1 It all started with a coffee in Dallas where they presented it to him. Here we are a few days later.
We don't know basketball as well as you, obviously. Nobody does.

Speaker 1 Nobody does. Nobody knows the inside of basketball as good as Sean's.
No way. But everybody thinks this was dumb.

Speaker 27 I've heard what you guys have been saying.

Speaker 27 I've heard. I have some thoughts.

Speaker 1 I have some thoughts. Yeah, Yeah, so please explain how I'm wrong.
Because I am looking at this as like these suits think they're more important than Luka Donchick to the Dallas Maverick success.

Speaker 27 So when I first got wind, and it was probably three, four, five, I mean, by the end of it, five sources before, you know, I put out the trade in about a five to six minute time span.

Speaker 27 I was as shocked as anyone. I mean, everyone in the NBA, every, I mean, players, coaches, other professional.
I saw Patrick Mahomes was talking about it. He was shocked.

Speaker 27 Everyone was shocked at the magnitude of this trade. But then in the moment after that, you know, you peel back the curtains and

Speaker 27 you know, you know, when you're, when you've, when I've done some research around Dallas over the last few years, and some of it has been reported on, is just this concern about conditioning, this concern about,

Speaker 27 you know, the buy-in of Luka Doncic. And right or wrong, you know, over the last five years, you know, the same gripes or whatever have been there.
Luka Dantic has still led you to a finals run.

Speaker 27 He has been in the top running for MVP. He has been one of the best players in the world.

Speaker 27 But for whatever reason, this season,

Speaker 27 the Mavericks felt that they needed to shift their direction of this organization.

Speaker 27 And Anthony Davis, like, we're not talking about a player that can't play.

Speaker 1 Audrey, without pulling back the curtains,

Speaker 27 after the trade went to happen, after the sudden shock, and I put, you know, you pull back the curtains, Nico Harrison, Jason Kidd, Kyrie Irving, there's a lot of relationships with Anthony Davis.

Speaker 27 Like, they view Anthony Davis very highly. They think Anthony Davis can be a difference maker, a championship difference maker.
He did it for the Lakers.

Speaker 27 His last game for the Lakers, he had 40 and 20. Like, this guy, this is not some style which we're talking about.

Speaker 27 Of course, Luca Dantic is Luka Donchic, but Anthony Davis is a piece that they feel is better for them to win a championship.

Speaker 1 Got it. Okay, so AD is 32, right? AD is 32.
Luca's 25. That was talked about a couple times there by Rob Plinka.
We're talking about a 25-year-old here.

Speaker 27 31 going on 32 for AD, 25 going on 26 for Luca.

Speaker 1 Okay, sweet. I'm 37 going on 38.
What are you?

Speaker 28 I'm 34 going on 35.

Speaker 1 What about you?

Speaker 4 I'm 29 going on 30.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's interesting because I was thinking 29 going on 24 because look at you, buddy. You look younger.
Maybe I am. Maybe I am 24.
You look younger than ever.

Speaker 1 Anthony Davis stud. We agree completely.
The Lakers were going to build around him.

Speaker 1 Do you think what the part that Rob Plinka was bringing up about it took a lot of things to get here is because he had to wrap his mind on now having to rebuild a team around Luca as opposed to the original plan, which is what?

Speaker 1 Anthony Davis, they're going to build around him, right?

Speaker 27 Both sides, they had to wrap their brains around it because it's a trade of such magnitude. The Lakers weren't trading Anthony Davis.
They've never had a conversation to move him, to shop him.

Speaker 27 And the fact that they got offered Luca Dante's, they had to think about it. And when you get offered that, you do it.
They formally got that offer last week.

Speaker 27 You can discuss concepts all you want, but the formal offer is a totally different beast. And once they got that formal offer, I think it was only days.
It was only days before this deal got complete.

Speaker 27 So, yeah, I mean, they were never thinking about moving Anthony Davis until you get presented this

Speaker 27 decade-long franchise player for you. And yes, it does mean that the Lakers are going to move into a younger period of time.
And this is Luca Dantch's team.

Speaker 1 Okay, so LeBron is going to not, he's going to be, be, because we've talked about this for a while, right? Like Anthony Davis, this is supposed to be his team.

Speaker 1 Like when he was with Kyrie, Kyrie was going to be the point guard. He's going to be the one in control.

Speaker 1 But then inevitably, it always ends up with LeBron bringing it down the court and the whole thing happening. Now the goal is for, oh, change the background there.

Speaker 1 You look really cool in this entire thing. Now the goal is just for it to be Luca's team and LeBron's on Luca's court, basically, right?

Speaker 27 Yeah, I mean, LeBron James and Luca Dantic are going to be co-stars, of course.

Speaker 27 And I do think the aspect of, think about everything that's coming out of Dallas right now, the work ethic, the conditioning, leadership, body, shape, type, everything like that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, what do they want? They wanted him to have an A-pack. That's what they wanted.
They wanted him to have an A-Pack. They just didn't like the way it looked.

Speaker 27 I think

Speaker 27 I said this yesterday. There was some friction between Luka Doncic and that team's medical performance staff over the last year or so.

Speaker 1 Can't get a new medical performance staff. You can get a new Luca.
Can't get a new medical performance staff. Never.
Can't do that. Can't do that.
Because they have a vision in what it looks like.

Speaker 1 Sports science. Yeah,

Speaker 1 this is what it's supposed to look like.

Speaker 9 I mean, Joker.

Speaker 25 Joker's absolutely straight at how many MVPs he won a championship.

Speaker 1 Could you imagine what the medical sports science company down there with the Dallas Mavericks? If they saw Joker in there, I need a little more pizzazz out of my guy.

Speaker 1 We need a little bit more, a little bit more moxie, a little bit there. Okay, sports science.
Sweet. Exciting.
Good luck to them. The defense always gets brought up for Luca.
And I think

Speaker 1 Wendy actually, after game three, I believe, of the finals last year, won on Scott Van Pelt and said, you know, this is the Mavericks tunnel here, and that's the Celtics tunnel down there.

Speaker 1 The winners are walking through that tunnel over there.

Speaker 1 The losers are walking through this tunnel, and Luca will walk through this one every single time if he doesn't become a better defender, basically what he said.

Speaker 1 Hembo sent these stats over here about his defense, okay?

Speaker 1 This is a big knock on him, right? He's out of shape, and he can't play D or doesn't choose to play defense. That's kind of one of the talking points, Chomps.

Speaker 27 There are many players in the NBA that are very lax when it comes to the defense, especially in the regular season.

Speaker 1 Okay, so here's a Hembo stat. And I don't know how the stats work in the NBA.
In the NFL, there's some stats that get sent over to us, and we go, oh, that's not a real stat.

Speaker 1 You know, because they start putting like precursors in it. It's like, can't, that's not expected, blah, blah, blah, above, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
You know, whatever. Here's this.

Speaker 1 Here's from Hembo, who we respect. Luca's opponents shot 39.9% with him as primary defender in the playoffs last year, 118 of of 296.

Speaker 1 The Celtics shot 23 of 66, 34.8% with Luca as the primary defender in the NBA Finals. The league shot 46.2%

Speaker 1 in the playoffs. Luca allowed the lowest percentage among nine players in the finals to defend 40-plus field goals.
Now, I assume there is some context that's added to that.

Speaker 1 If you just get blown by and that's your guy and scores, maybe they're not able to do that.

Speaker 1 But it's like, I think Hembo was able to find a stat.

Speaker 1 stat i don't know where the hell it was that says he's not a terrible defender so is this all bullshit shams why do they hate this guy why do we hate this guy because he has an accent i

Speaker 27 no i i i think a lot of it is is what what whatever they felt from him and from conditioning his how how he was behaving around the team like all of those things played a factor where they felt like we need someone who's going to be bought in differently, someone that's going to bring a different different tone, a different culture, bring a different environment here, and a player that we feel, again, I do think the Mavericks are looking the next three to four years in this window to try to win a championship.

Speaker 27 The Lakers, with this move, are shifting more to a longer-term, younger, bigger picture thinking around Luka Dantic. It's two different methods.

Speaker 27 These teams are on different timelines, time trajectories. Now, we will see in due time who ends up being right and who ends up being wrong.

Speaker 27 If Nico Harrison and the Dallas Mavericks win a championship or two championships over the next three, four years, did they make the right decision? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, time will tell. Understandable.

Speaker 27 This is all the Mavericks feel Anthony Davis at the five of four is a better fit to win a championship than Luka Doncic's.

Speaker 1 Got it. And maybe Nico will bring in Seth Curry, right? Yeah.
He has a history of calling Seth that, right? That kind of

Speaker 1 lose gun. Yeah, allegedly, allegedly.
I wasn't in there. You know, shout out to Under Armour too.
Those Grass Cutters ones. Oh, Oh, yeah.
And those Nurse Curry twos. That's right.

Speaker 1 I mean, those things used to be.

Speaker 27 I will say

Speaker 27 it takes a lot of balls. It takes a lot of moxie to go make a move like this.
It does.

Speaker 27 Because I think Nico Harrison even said in his press conference, if this doesn't work out, I'll be judged.

Speaker 27 If it does work out,

Speaker 27 we're looking at this in a different lens. I'm just saying.
I agree. I agree.

Speaker 1 I agree.

Speaker 1 I agree. I agree.
I understand completely. And the Atlanta Falcons, you know, they paid $150 million to Kirk Cousins, and he drafted Pennex at number eight overall.

Speaker 1 A lot of people said, why'd you do that if you're going to do that? Then Pennex ends up playing, and they're still trying to make it a playoff.

Speaker 1 So I assume they sleep soundly at night for the decision they make. You have to make tough decisions in these roles.

Speaker 1 I just don't like that it feels like these people think they're more important to the Atlantic. There's one thing to make.
Man, Tamuka Dawn Chick is.

Speaker 27 There's one thing to make a tough decision. This is an unprecedented...

Speaker 27 This is the craziest decision I think anyone has ever seen. But that, you know, crazy can be good sometimes.

Speaker 1 Agreed, agreed. Okay, okay, we got to continue.
We got to continue. We only have a few minutes.
Debunch has a question about another massive piece of this. Yeah, a piece of this.

Speaker 9 You talked about it being Luca's team now in L.A. Have we heard from LeBron? Have you heard from LeBron directly?

Speaker 9 Like, how does LeBron feel about AD being shipped out and then bringing in, you know, superstar, obviously a great player, Luca Dante's in to be the face of the franchise, or one of the faces of the franchise?

Speaker 27 DB, I haven't spoken to LeBron James directly, but my understanding around that situation is that there's been no indication that LeBron James doesn't want to be in Los Angeles.

Speaker 27 And, you know, I think he's moving forward here with Luka Dantic on this team. And I do think the Lakers having him around and

Speaker 27 having him be the co-star for Luka Doncic right now. And LeBron James, at the end of the day, Luka Dantic is 25.
LeBron James is 40 years old. This should be Luka Dantchic's team.

Speaker 27 If this was LeBron James' team at the age of 40 years old and LeBron James was the one option, the one A to Luka Doncic's Dantic's one B, there would be a problem.

Speaker 27 This is Luca Dante's team from a franchise perspective over the next 10 years, but LeBron James is still LeBron James.

Speaker 27 I do think the mentorship component, the aspect of work ethic, how he leads, how you see how he handles his body, I do think that those are all traits people in LA, people around the situation are looking at as something that can be learned, of course.

Speaker 1 Rob Blenk is at the sports performance team ready to work alongside Luca and excited to get him to five on five tomorrow to see how the calf is, whether he's going to play. There's that five on five.

Speaker 1 I didn't know know that was.

Speaker 27 I can say this. There is optimism that Luka Dantich will be making his Lakers debut as soon as Saturday at home against your Indiana Pacers.

Speaker 1 It's a hot team, Luca.

Speaker 1 Maybe wait one. Maybe wait one or two.
Do they play the Pacers again the next game?

Speaker 27 I don't believe so. I think they play Saturday and then Monday.

Speaker 1 Would it be against the Pacers?

Speaker 9 I like how Luca goes straight to 505. He doesn't do the 202, 300.
1, 3 on 2, 4-0.

Speaker 1 That's a Pelican's decision.

Speaker 2 That's Pelican's decision.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 27 Saturday, and then Monday is the Utah Jazz.

Speaker 1 Yeah, play against Ryan Smith's team, which leads us to this, actually. Connor's got a question for you.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Sean, it was reported that Danny Ainge had no idea that this was the trade that he was involved in because obviously they were the third team in the Lakers-Maz blockbuster. How is that possible?

Speaker 4 And with 30 minutes to go before the trade was finalized, did Danny Ainge try and back out of it?

Speaker 27 I have no knowledge of Danny Aines trying to back out of it, but I will say if you can end up with Jalen Hutchofino and two draft assets, I think you have to make the best decision for your organization.

Speaker 27 The Utah Jazz being in it or not being in it, I don't think was going to impact this deal. The Lakers could have found another team if they needed to do this deal.
There would have been many other.

Speaker 27 Yeah, there would have been at least a handful of teams that would have helped them with this acquisition.

Speaker 1 Okay, last question here, Seams, before we have a hard out on this big time

Speaker 1 NBA press conference Tuesday.

Speaker 1 How about us, real journalists? I know.

Speaker 1 Had a press conference out there?

Speaker 1 Highest concurrence we've ever had on TikTok. Crazy.
Highest concurrence. We need a press conference every day.
Shams, figure out how to make this type of thing happen. I know the NBA's happy.

Speaker 1 Almost feels like it's a work. Almost.

Speaker 27 NBA trade deadline. Pat

Speaker 27 up to something seasoned.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right. Everybody seemingly, all right, we have one minute.
Ty, has a question for you.

Speaker 28 Yeah, Shams, odds came out this morning that said, you know, Durant is like a plus 375 favorite to be traded to the Washington Wizards, potentially.

Speaker 28 Is that just people going crazy right now because no one expected a guy like Luca to get traded? Is there any truth to that or is that largely bullshit?

Speaker 27 I have heard multiple random BS reports, not reports, rumors

Speaker 27 in the NBA space over the last couple of days, but I think a lot of it does stem from this fact,

Speaker 27 the fact of this matter of Luka Doncic being traded in the middle of the night.

Speaker 27 He was considered untouchable, untradeable. He was supposed to have a statue outside of the Mavs Arena.
Mark Cuban at one point said he was going to get a divorce before they ever traded Luka Doncic.

Speaker 27 Like, all those factors made this trade so improbable that I think everyone in the NBA is like, shoot, if Luca Dodgers get, I think Ant Edwards just says that Luka Doncic can get traded, anyone can get traded.

Speaker 27 And yeah, I do think we'll probably hear a lot of different rumors and reports, but

Speaker 27 we'll deliver PMS the facts when they happen.

Speaker 1 What is your Twitter account? account?

Speaker 27 I got to go.

Speaker 1 I got to go, guys. Oh!

Speaker 1 Go get it, Shams. Go get it, Shams.
Good luck. KDT.
Yes. Good luck.
Okay. That's not happening.
I got to go. I got to go.
I got to go. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 I got to tweet faster than everybody else.

Speaker 1 It's part of the business here, boys. My words per minute need to be higher than all these olds that are in this business alongside of me.
Something big's happening. That was pretty big.

Speaker 1 To go. That's probably

Speaker 1 a good one. Yeah, that's Jimmy right there.
Okay. Now, he has been, this has been a pretty good little run here for Shams.

Speaker 1 The Jimmy Butler stuff, he had Pat Riley and Jimmy Butler's agent coming out discrediting him.

Speaker 1 He's at this new place. Not everybody's happy.
He's there. Not everybody's happy.
He's in the position that he's in. Not everybody's happy just to give up the relationships that they have.

Speaker 1 Not everybody's just feeding, you know. He had to like earn it.
So he comes out with this Jimmy Butler news. And all of a sudden, Jimmy Butler's agent publicly killing him.

Speaker 1 Pat Riley comes out, publicly kills him. And Shams just has to sit in a pocket eating oatmeal with a fork.
That's right. Hey, that's what he had to do.
All day.

Speaker 1 And then bang, big, he's kicked out of walkthrough. Bitch.
And then boom, the biggest trade in the history of the NBA on a Saturday night at midnight. Go on, Shams.
Go on. That's a

Speaker 1 Shams

Speaker 1 dunk.

Speaker 1 That was a good reference. Whoever tweeted that.
I should go back and find out who it was because that's been there his whole time.

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Speaker 1 It's wonderful. The first hour we did basketball.
Don't look now. We got some depth.
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Speaker 1 We do the sports. Don't look now.
It's Super Bowl Week. Okay.

Speaker 1 And tomorrow, we'll be live from the convention center down there in New Orleans at Radio Row alongside everybody else that's going to be packed in there. Always a fun time.
Cannot wait.

Speaker 1 for the guests that show up. We have no idea who a lot of them are going to be.
Obviously, this is a time for every single partner of the NFL to get all their shit in.

Speaker 1 You know, so basically any commercial you've seen throughout the year any company that has paid any amount of money to the nfl they will have a station or a setup at radio rail they will also utilize money to pay people to come represent their brands and walk around station to station it's a big convention and in there you'll see stars superstars yeah you'll see insufferability sure sure you will see a madhouse yeah and we will see a bunch of media people that have certainly talked shit about us publicly and privately that we definitely know about and it's a good time just kind of look at them and go on a

Speaker 1 hey goofball i know you i see you i heard you you do a lot of this

Speaker 1 and you suck it with you suck at this and you know it and that's all right have a good day and then we just keep it moving radio roads the greatest time we have all year great time it is i have a camera that i get to control That just kind of go ahead and shoot that thing out to the crowd.

Speaker 1 Who is that? Holy shit. That's Joe Montana.
What? That's Joe Montana. Boom.
Eyes on the other side of the room. I got Joe Montana.
Thin legs. Nobody understands how he was able to be that great.

Speaker 1 How do he grow up in West Pennsylvania with all those hills with those legs? Didn't matter. Joe Montana didn't need legs.
All Joe Montana needed was that toughness, that Paison ability, and

Speaker 1 the competitive drive to throw the ball and willing to compete for his contract against Steve Young. That's right.

Speaker 1 That's what Radio Row is. We can't wait to get down there.
Now, Toxic Tables here at Boss Connor at Tyschmint. I know you guys are handing out dinners to people down there in New Orleans.

Speaker 1 It's very nice of you at the toxic table to give back to society, to give back to the world. What are you looking forward to most down there in New Orleans?

Speaker 1 And is it just the game kicking off so we can finally find out who's the goddamn world champion this year?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think that's a big part of it.

Speaker 28 You know, the more and more we do this, we were actually talking this morning. It's crazy to think this is like the fifth radio row that we've done.
We've come quite a long way since that first year.

Speaker 28 We were basically inside a shoebox in Miami.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. It's not about a tiny, tiny ass.

Speaker 1 He didn't punch you in the face. Well, he did punch me in the face.

Speaker 28 He elbowed me in the the back of the head incredibly hard.

Speaker 28 You know, sleeping dogs will lie on that one. That's buried and done with.
We're not worried about that anymore.

Speaker 31 I hope to see Drew Brees this year. Me too.
As well.

Speaker 1 I hope you actually see him. Yeah, I didn't see him last time.
Yeah. He was out of perip.
I'm in conversation. Pat.

Speaker 4 Need you. Pat.

Speaker 28 I get you.

Speaker 1 Pat. And then I just,

Speaker 1 I exit screen. We were out of there.
It didn't even. It looked like I big time Drew Brees.
I can promise,

Speaker 1 I did not hear Drew Brees. I did not know Drew Brees was there, but I don't think we've talked to Drew Brees since then.
Would it be nice to see him? It would be.

Speaker 1 And let him know, hey, listen, I didn't hear you or see you. I'm in the middle of a thousand things.
I am so sorry. We love you.
Purdue, boiler up. Exactly.
Whole thing. Right, one for me.

Speaker 1 Two, three, four, me, five, six, seven, again, again, again. Win, again, win, win, again.
Win, again. Yeah, we would like to do that.
The whole deal.

Speaker 4 We want to do it with him, obviously.

Speaker 28 But

Speaker 28 you mentioned it, I think, I want to say either like last week. week on Thursday or maybe it was Monday.
Everything's kind of running together.

Speaker 28 You get to this point, it gets tough just basically basically repeating the same thing about the game every single day, every single day, finding like one or two new nuggets and then trying to do like a two and a half hour show on the two new things that you have.

Speaker 28 Because it comes back to the same thing every single time. Hey, Chiefs, you know, they're going for immortality.
Can the Eagles do it? Maybe Sirianni's not a big dumb dip shit.

Speaker 28 Jalen Hurts is starting to come on. So it's kind of the same thing, but I think the game itself is going to be awesome.

Speaker 28 And then obviously seeing old friends, you know, like McQuaid down there and different things.

Speaker 1 And Gabe Morenzi. Yeah, Marenzi, exactly.

Speaker 28 So there's like the couple stalwarts that you don't really see all year that you'll see at Radio Row. I'm very excited for that as well.

Speaker 1 I'm pumped to get down there. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius Jay Baller.
Yes, there you go. Another Radio Row.
It gets a little panicked, or packed, I'm sorry, and frantic, I shall say.

Speaker 1 But it is nice to see old teammates come walking through. You know, a lot of business is done in there.

Speaker 1 We try to avoid people in there. It's good.

Speaker 9 Catch up with a lot of people. You know, obviously you're going to run into your goofball here and there, but it'll be a good time, a good place.
It'll be some great food down there to know you.

Speaker 9 So, looking forward to that. And culmination of another great season.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is celebration.

Speaker 9 Celebration.

Speaker 9 Obviously, we love football, and then it's the game we got to enjoy because we're

Speaker 9 staring down another offseason.

Speaker 1 Wow, wow, well, Luca's. We got Lucas on there.
They got Lucas to a little bit more of that.

Speaker 9 Be excited for that.

Speaker 1 We got the Lake Shows.

Speaker 9 You're right. You're right.
You're right.

Speaker 1 Celtics Lakers. Lucas final.
Lucas just

Speaker 1 so many times, just

Speaker 1 and then just like the slowest step back.

Speaker 9 I mean, we might get a Mavericks-Lakers matchup in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 I don't know if the Mavericks are making the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Jody is now live from an attic. I think they're dumb.
And I'm okay burning bridges over in that world and just saying what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 I don't think you own an island there.

Speaker 4 Bruce was just saying he likes the Mavericks squad now, actually, in the bathroom.

Speaker 1 That's a super Bruce of him. I mean, that is very Bruce of him.
I had to say what I'm talking about.

Speaker 26 Long term, the Lakers obviously win Luca, but this year their roster, especially this meeting another trade, that's why Sean's hung up

Speaker 4 is pretty good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Kyrie and AD, I think, would be a great team. Philadelphia 76ers won.
Caleb Martin. Hell yeah.
To the Dallas Mavericks. Sources tell ESPN.
All right, so the Mavs making moves.

Speaker 1 You know, they're trying to go all in this year.

Speaker 31 Yeah, we heard from Kyrie.

Speaker 1 But are you going to hear from Kyrie, though? Never, I don't think. I believe in Kyrie.

Speaker 25 So do I, but he was very good friends with Luca. Like, Like, I'm pretty sure he's not that happy about this.

Speaker 1 And didn't I see him with Kai when he faked the call from the Lakers? Yeah, mm-hmm. The fellow he was methodic in real life.
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 What if Kyrie says, get me out of here, send me to the Lakers?

Speaker 4 Him and AD are pals, too.

Speaker 1 Yep, yeah. They are.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but what if Kyrie says this place is,

Speaker 4 I mean, what are we doing?

Speaker 1 They don't care about anybody.

Speaker 4 They're kind of handing over the keys to Kyrie a little bit, though. Okay, this is you now.
Now it's you and AD.

Speaker 1 1,000%. We'll be fun to watch.
I love watching Kyrie ball. Obviously, what he can do with basketball is so much fun, even if you don't know basketball.

Speaker 1 This guy's different right here. Artist.
And everything that

Speaker 1 happened, it's like, this guy's a dog, too. This guy will say, so what? Right in the face of people.
I love that type of, anyway, I love that type of.

Speaker 1 But you got to be who you can afford to be. And the reason why he was able to do that is because when he has that ball, it drinks.
It is unbelievable.

Speaker 1 Okay, join us now as we pivot to some football on this big-time NBA Tuesday is a manning in an attic in Ohio. He's a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Roderick Cup winner.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hall.

Speaker 1 AJ, I know you're not a big basketball guy. Your thoughts on Luca's presser in his situation?

Speaker 32 I love Luca's disdain for the media, I would say. Like

Speaker 32 he speaks to him, but he's like, why am I here? I don't want to do this. I want to do something else, play some basketball.
But going back to this whole situation, the presser was fine.

Speaker 32 Is this the decision of just one dude on Dallas, this Nico guy, the GM? Because it sounds like he had to keep everyone else involved.

Speaker 32 But like, obviously, this guy, whatever is going on behind the scenes day to day, he does not love.

Speaker 1 We know that. So Luca has said that they're firing all the people I like in this building, basically.
He has been on the record of saying that in the past.

Speaker 1 But I think it's this Nico guy and then the sports performance team down in Dallas doesn't like the way.

Speaker 1 This thing a little bit too milky right now. It's like 2%.
It looks weird. We need to skim.
Yeah. Don't we?

Speaker 1 think about all the greats in the past what they look like and somebody was like well what about joker kind of similar area you know he's the best in the game he's from serbia not slavania yeah he's seven feet

Speaker 1 similar area kind of the same don't we think he likes horses though but don't they kind of aren't they kind of doing the no he's seven feet tall luca is not he's fat have you seen no but he's six seven though like we keep saying he's 270 what is a six foot seven are we sure he's not gonna shrink he's gaining weight like you wouldn't believe yeah but he looks like he's in the best shape we've seen him in actually.

Speaker 1 Both in a hoodie traveling yesterday, which is hard to look like you're in shape with a hoodie on. That's going to make you look fat no matter what.

Speaker 1 And then he's sitting down with a tight gray thing on. Kayla Gray is there good.
And he looked like so fit. He did.
And then even his legs look like Jay.

Speaker 1 It's like, yeah, but he's in good shape now, but he's 25. He likes to 80.
He's going to get fat. Okay.
Yeah, but Joker looks a little bigger and he's doing okay.

Speaker 1 But once again, he's not from Slovenia.

Speaker 4 No, no. Joker's brothers.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 So yeah, I think it was a couple people who think they're more important and have bigger brain than anybody, which is why I hate it so bad.

Speaker 1 That's why I hate, that's why I've gotten mad about something that I would never care less about.

Speaker 1 Because this is, once again, people being put in positions of power and then just thinking that they're smarter than like everybody. And maybe they are.
Maybe they are.

Speaker 1 But I know you can replace those sports science people pretty quickly. Just scroll through Instagram a couple times.
You can find somebody.

Speaker 1 Okay, you can find somebody. I don't know if you could just, I mean, maybe you can.
Maybe you can. There's one Luca.

Speaker 32 There is one Luca, no question about it.

Speaker 32 That's what is is very surprising. Let's see if, I don't know.

Speaker 32 Does Luca's game change?

Speaker 32 Does he go to the Lakers and all of a sudden the dude is like 15 pounds? He puts on 15 pounds of muscle? Like, do we see something like that?

Speaker 1 Like, what's going to happen? I think, yeah. I think there's a chance.
I think he's going to be.

Speaker 32 He should,

Speaker 32 just to stick it to Dallas. He should gain 35 pounds of solid muscle and go out there just completely jacked and just

Speaker 1 bulldog everybody. 82 games, smack the wood.
I mean, he said it's motive. Motive.
It is motive. It is motive.
This is one of the biggest clubs in world sports. So it is motive.

Speaker 1 So he's got a lot of motives, you know, and thank you to Dallas for doing that because now we're going to get it even better, Luca, I think, which was Luca good before? I don't remember. Yeah, he was.

Speaker 1 Very. He's pretty good.
He's like best in the league. Yeah.
All right, let's go to football, shall we?

Speaker 1 Big night last night, not only with the Super Bowl media and Roger Goodell press conference, but on Cooper Cuff's Twitter account, where he makes an official announcement telling him that the Rams, less need, and Sean McVay, just said, we're going to try to trade your ass out of here as quick as possible.

Speaker 1 Okay. This is just how this business is.
We don't love it. He was one of the first picks that Sean McVay era had in Cooper Cup.

Speaker 1 I believe he was the second pick that Sean McVay had whenever he started there. He's a triple crown winner.

Speaker 1 I think it's even four if you add yards after catch or something, yards after something other.

Speaker 1 He had like the highest four stats a wide receiver could possibly have. He won a Super Bowl championship.
Him and Matthew Stafford's relationship, very notable and massive.

Speaker 1 Puka Nakua came in and had a phenomenal run while Cooper Cup was out. Now they're looking to get younger, I assume, at a wide receiver position, maybe looking to get cheaper.

Speaker 1 And Cooper Cup now is seemingly available for any team that's willing to make the right offer to the Los Angeles Rams. AJ, your thoughts?

Speaker 1 And also, when this goes through, do you agree with the sentiment that we had in the office that there's a chance that Cooper Cup goes for like a washing machine like Ed Monix did in semi-pro?

Speaker 1 And I think there's going to be a lot of teams that are going to go, you could have got Cooper Cup four, and it's going to be like fifth rounder or like fourth rounder, because that's what it sounded like in the announcement that he made, AJ.

Speaker 32 Yeah, it did. And people are trying to claim that he's, Cooper is not requesting a trade, correct? They came to him and said, we're shopping you, we're going to work with you, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, so the first sentence, you know, if you don't read it. a couple of times or have a high reading level, you're going to think that he asked to be traded.

Speaker 1 But instead, you read that first sentence.

Speaker 1 I was informed that the team, them, not me, will be seeking a trade immediately and be working with me and my family to find the right place to continue to compete for championships i don't agree with the decision and always believed it was going to begin and end in la so he did not say this at all this is them saying to cooper cup hey what's up what are you doing oh hanging out with family just having a pretty good little monday here we're trading you okay as soon as possible what yeah

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know. Yeah, we're trying.
Like, today, if something came through, we would

Speaker 1 move you. Love you, though.
All right, have a good one.

Speaker 28 That's.

Speaker 32 Hey, what do you make of that? The last paragraph. 2024 began with one of the best training camps of my career.
What's he trying to say there? Like, hey, I still have plenty left in the tank.

Speaker 32 Is that what he's doing?

Speaker 1 Yeah, people are saying he's diminished after the injuries that he's had. And,

Speaker 1 you know, there's even, I saw people call him fragile and all this type of stuff. Like, he's not the guy he once was.
He's not going to be able to play.

Speaker 1 Once again, there's stats from Hembo that are like when he's targeted, he catches the ball. His drop rates lower than anybody.
On third downs, he's still doing work and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 Debuts, your thoughts on a current Cooper Cup and what type of situation would be best for a Cooper Cup?

Speaker 9 Yeah, I heard some of the stats, and stats are hard to kind of paint a real picture with a wide receiver. That's so dependent on, you know, protection, quarterback, targets, all that other thing.

Speaker 9 And Cooper, not Cooper, Puka became obviously the clear-cut number one guy who that passing game was built off of. But Cooper, watching the film, Cooper Cup still gets open.
He still runs good routes.

Speaker 9 Health has been a concern, I guess, throughout the duration of his career. He did have the peak year.
He won a triple crown, had an amazing run during the Super Bowl.

Speaker 9 I think he's still a really, really good wide receiver. He's a wide receiver, I think, has to go into the right system.

Speaker 9 And he's one of those guys that he's going to be open like at the right time, but you got to just hit him.

Speaker 9 He's not like a guy that you just put out an X and you say, hey, go win one-on-one, you know, all game long, every third down. You got to put him in good situations, but he understands coverages.

Speaker 9 He understands. understand spacing.
He'll make tough catches.

Speaker 9 He's a good, good player, I think, especially for if you're trying to bring a quarterback, a talented young quarterback along, I think he'll be a great veteran presence in that locker room, in that seating room.

Speaker 1 So like a Shanahan, Kevin O'Connell, one of those types of opportunities.

Speaker 9 Yeah, any good play caller that can put him in the right situation. But he still, I think, has a lot of good football left on him.
Him talking about his health. You know, that's on the field.

Speaker 9 How productive and how healthy can you be down in, down out? And the right team, I think, that thinks they're a couple pieces. away, I think, could take a chance on him.

Speaker 1 Sounds very motivated. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And, you know, that doesn't necessarily save save you from getting injured uh wide receiver obviously a lot of running a lot of miles that is just what the position is he blocked his ass off too yeah and he buys in too yeah everybody loves i don't hear a single thing that's ever been negative about a wide receiver one uh like Cooper Cup.

Speaker 1 Never been negative, never been a D.Va, seemingly. I think there's gonna be a lot of suitors for him.

Speaker 4 Yeah, absolutely. As a Patriots fan, I mean, that's one of the guys you kind of zero in on immediately.
You know, the Miles Garrett conversation, of course, was just happening.

Speaker 4 So everyone's kind of looking at him.

Speaker 4 But Cooper Cup, you know, when he does end up going for a third round, fourth-round pick, like that is going to be one of those deals where if he gets in the right place and everything you've heard about him, too.

Speaker 4 Like Stafford talks about when they go into the film room together at five in the morning and they're watching film and the way he sees the game.

Speaker 4 Like I go back to that Bucs Rams playoff game in Tampa where he saw a blitz and he just took off and Stafford hit him downfield and they won on a last second field goal.

Speaker 4 And that only happens because he knows. defense is inside and out.
Like a guy like that is kind of rare. Of course, obviously, he's not playing outside like a T.

Speaker 4 Higgins or any of the other guys that are getting that top, top money. But if you know what the defense is doing, that's so valuable.

Speaker 1 Think about this, AJ. He goes to the Chargers.
Him, Lad McConk. No, unfair, unfair.
No.

Speaker 4 Veto. That's a vetoable offense.
You cannot do that. You can't have two cool, smart white guys playing slot receiver.

Speaker 1 Why not? It's not allowed. You can't do that.

Speaker 4 It's not allowed in the league anymore. They said after the Patriots did it with Amendola and Edelman, they said, no, no, no.
Sorry, guys. This isn't happening anymore.

Speaker 4 We're vetoing any type of situation where this could possibly happen.

Speaker 1 Three quarterbacks on the field at the same time? That's what I heard.

Speaker 4 Look, that's not, I think Goodell said at his press conference yesterday. I don't think that's not like from me.

Speaker 1 Goodell did speak at his annual press conference yesterday. We'll have more about that later in the hour.
Travis Kelsey and the Chiefs spoke as well. So did the Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you what, I like the group.

Speaker 1 I like the group that's representing the Super Bowl, representing us

Speaker 1 all year long on Mondays, normally, has been bouncing around here now in the playoffs because things have gotten a little bit crazy.

Speaker 1 A man who is the greatest coach in the history of the NFL, greatest general manager as well, is currently the head coach of the University of North Carolina Tar Hill football team.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, on May 6th, he'll be officially an author. Boom.

Speaker 1 Published The Art of Winning by Bill Belichick. The foreword? Who wrote it? Oh, the greatest player of all time, Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 Okay. Lessons from my life in football.
Remember, he's been in ball forever. There was was a photo that popped up whenever he went to North Carolina of him as a kid in the North Carolina stadium.

Speaker 1 I'm obviously at the Navy. And then you talk about going through the coaching ranks, starting with the Giants, and then getting an opportunity.
Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-fore.

Speaker 1 That's all he did is ball, ball, ball.

Speaker 1 And the other thing he did,

Speaker 1 fucking win.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, I assume a guy that's going to win for the Tar Heels is their head coach, Bill Belichick.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah, Bill.

Speaker 1 How you doing, coach?

Speaker 1 Good, Pat.

Speaker 21 AJ, how you guys doing? Crew, how we doing?

Speaker 1 Hey, Bill. Hey, Bill.
How we doing?

Speaker 1 Super ball week. Suba.
It's a great week. Hell yeah.
It's a great week. Hey,

Speaker 1 okay, so I know that you wrote this. Didn't have a ghostwriter.

Speaker 1 Right? Is that accurate? I assume you're not going to have somebody else, or did somebody else write this for you? Right.

Speaker 21 Yeah, no, it's my stuff, my stories, my life in football.

Speaker 1 Okay, so first of all, respect and appreciate you doing that, okay?

Speaker 1 295 pages here at the end for the index. How long have you been writing this book? And has this been a culmination of thoughts that you've gathered throughout the years?

Speaker 1 Or did you sit down with a mission to piece this together? And obviously, we love the play on the art of war, the art of winning. Should we call you Shinzu Belichick going forward?

Speaker 21 No, I don't think that's necessary. Okay.
No, it's just my story, Pat.

Speaker 21 Yeah, I've made notes through the years. This is something that I had thought about doing,

Speaker 21 you know, three or four years ago, but just kind of kept some notes and

Speaker 21 had the time to do it this year. So

Speaker 21 I decided to try to put it together and

Speaker 21 I'm glad it came together. So I've had the opportunity to work with a lot of great players, coaches,

Speaker 21 and people in and out of football. And so just some of the lessons that I've learned.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, I'm sure this is going to be a New York Times bestseller. So congratulations on that.

Speaker 1 Comes out May 6th. I assume you can pre-order it now wherever you buy books.
And

Speaker 1 what Tom Brady says in a quote here is Coach Belichick brought out the best in me. His book will do the same for you.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's a good message. I won't be my best.
And then at the top here, not you, your publisher, wrote up a little thing.

Speaker 1 It says, The Art of Winning, Lessons from a Life in Football by Bill Belichick.

Speaker 1 Winning isn't a science. Neither is whizzing.
Winning isn't a science. It's an art, and it can be learned.
I can't wait to learn it. Hey, we appreciate you putting this out, Bill.

Speaker 1 Legitimately, making the world better.

Speaker 1 Okay, so it is currently Super Bowl week. You are currently a head coach for a college football team.

Speaker 1 Have you thought about how different your life is now versus what it's been whenever you were running and going to all those Super Bowls?

Speaker 1 Have you thought about what your mental state would be on a Tuesday of Super Bowl week as opposed to a head coach who's recruiting the class of 2026 at North Carolina right now? Do you do any of that?

Speaker 1 And what would a Tuesday look like for you if your team was in the Super Bowl?

Speaker 21 If my team was in the Super Bowl, Tuesday would look like media day. It'd be a big game plan day for the coaches to prepare for the practices on Wednesday and Thursday, which are the two

Speaker 21 big practices. And then

Speaker 21 just kind of getting everything organized down there in the new city, you know, in the Super Bowl city. There's always things that come up with travel, families,

Speaker 21 other requests and so forth that you just have to manage and work through. But

Speaker 21 it's a great time.

Speaker 21 It's a great week. The only better feeling is after you win.

Speaker 21 But to get that far to win the AFC or NSC Championship is a huge accomplishment, and it's a great,

Speaker 21 honestly, it's a great honor to play in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 21 So you just embrace it. But yeah, I think back, I think about some of the things that have happened during those weeks and all.
And so it's definitely a lot of fond memories.

Speaker 1 Did you get nervous? Did you ever get anxiety?

Speaker 21 No, more than any other game.

Speaker 21 I mean, I get anxiety for every game. I think every game is

Speaker 21 a huge challenge, and you always are a little bit uneasy going into the game of how it's going to go, of course. But, you know, the Super Bowl is similar, but

Speaker 21 you do what you can do, and you make sure that you're ready to go. And as a head coach, you try to help your team.
perform the best that it can. And

Speaker 21 ultimately, it's up to the players, but as a coach, we have to put players in a good position so they can perform well in a game. And that's, you know, that's what I tried to do.

Speaker 1 That's awesome. You played in the Super Bowl so much and coaching the Super Bowl so much.
It's just like, yeah, not different than any other game.

Speaker 1 I mean, we're trying to win every game at the Super Bowl. So that's Nick Saban.
I don't know if I told you this or not.

Speaker 1 Nick Sabin was getting calls from coaches that were going through this college football playoff, you know, old coaches of his, and they were like, all right, what should we do for this one?

Speaker 1 You know, and he was like, if there was a better way to prepare for the games, let's start doing that at the beginning of the season.

Speaker 1 Like, what do we, let's not wait until the playoffs to start doing anything different.

Speaker 1 Let's make sure we're doing everything for the entirety of the year.

Speaker 1 And then, obviously, tighten in on certain things that makes your team great that you know about your team from the entirety of the season.

Speaker 1 That's, obviously, you two greats are in those massive moments more than everybody else. I love that you're in that position.
Go ahead, AJ.

Speaker 32 Coach, how big of a deal is the extended halftime that you get at the Super Bowl?

Speaker 32 I know I think you guys are one of the first teams I worked on to where you actually like practice that extended halftime because most people don't know.

Speaker 32 I believe regular season is 12-minute halftime, very quick. And

Speaker 32 I assume you know what the Super Bowl halftime is. And how much did that actually, you think, help your team?

Speaker 21 Yeah, the Super Bowl halftime, they give you a time on it.

Speaker 21 Call it 33, 34, 36 minutes, whatever they decide to make it. Triple.
And then you can usually count on a couple of minutes longer than that. So

Speaker 21 let's call it three times as long as a normal halftime, AJ. And, you know, that's a lot of time for the coaches and it's a lot of time for the,

Speaker 21 you know, the team. And you want to make sure that,

Speaker 21 you know, that you use that time as productively as possible. For the players, I think there's definitely a re-warm-up period.

Speaker 21 And so, you know, we allowed about five minutes before we came out to stretch in the locker room and ride the stationary bike, things like that.

Speaker 21 And then, you know, try to come out on the field and get a quick re-warm-up.

Speaker 21 But if you look back through the Super Bowls, you can see many games that had a distinct first half, second half difference. And I think that's part of the Super Bowl game is it's harder.

Speaker 21 You can't get any momentum in that game. If you score or have a turnover with the lengthy timeouts and all that after those plays, there's so many resets in the game that

Speaker 21 you just have to keep resetting and resetting. The momentum doesn't really carry over.
And certainly that's true at halftime.

Speaker 21 So we tried to plan the halftime out into five-minute blocks over a 30-minute timeframe where we talked about what our opponents were doing and then talked talked about what we were going to do and then talked about what our opponents were doing in other situations like third down, a red area, and so forth, and then talked about what we were going to do.

Speaker 21 And then

Speaker 21 by that time, we were ready to go back out. But yeah, we did practice it in Super Bowl 49 in Arizona.
I actually took the team out on the field. We did a move the field,

Speaker 21 one move-the-field

Speaker 21 period for the offense and the defense, about 15 plays each. And then we went back into the locker room for 35 minutes.

Speaker 21 And just so the players could get the feeling of the timing, we had a lot of players that

Speaker 21 hadn't played in that type of game before and a few that had, but a lot that hadn't. And I just thought that that was a good way for them to actually feel what that lengthy halftime was and

Speaker 21 how they could prepare and make the best use of the time. And it was a few guys after the game that came in and said, you know, that was really helpful because we never had a

Speaker 21 long halftime like that in the NFL. But in college, those halftimes are pretty long, you know, with the marching band, and we go out there and dot the eye and all that.

Speaker 21 And it just lasts a little bit longer.

Speaker 1 Hey, Bill, I mean, as you're laying this out, it's like, yeah, of course you want to do that.

Speaker 1 That sounds like so smart, but you got to be probably the only one that, you know, all these things that I assume you think are just like, yeah.

Speaker 1 35 minutes, we're going to have these guys at least experience it one time before they got to do it on the biggest stage. It's like, all you just.

Speaker 9 You guys didn't do that.

Speaker 1 You're so well. No, I don't know.
Well, I didn't.

Speaker 21 Pat, we didn't do it every year. So we played in 14.

Speaker 21 And then in 16, we were two years later. So I didn't feel like we needed to do it.
We played in 17 against the Eagles, didn't do it 18, a year later against the Rams.

Speaker 21 So it was that 14 year that I thought was really

Speaker 21 kind of the one that,

Speaker 21 because I had experienced it, that I thought there were enough players on our team that

Speaker 21 could just benefit from that. that game and on you know fridays practice isn't you know a big heavy lifting day anyway.
It's really more of a mental day, and it's a timing day.

Speaker 21 And I just felt like we had the extra time to do that. So we did it in Arizona.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, it's genius. And what is that quote? I don't know.
Lumbo pulls quotes from everything.

Speaker 1 So who knows what generation this quote was, but taking care of the non-obvious, you know, is like how greatness gets done. It's like the details, a way to describe the details.

Speaker 1 It's like that's something you would assume a team that has not been to the Super Bowl would handle that, but that's not normal. And nothing nothing is that you do, Bill.

Speaker 1 That is why you're the greatest of all time. Now, with that being said, there is certainly a dynastic run happening currently.
Connor has a question for you.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Coach, one of the years, you know, when the Patriots played the Giants, of course, it was the undefeated year.

Speaker 4 And I believe some players have come out and said, you know, that pressure of going undefeated when you were very close, especially in that Super Bowl, it almost got to some guys.

Speaker 4 Do you think that'll happen at all with the Chiefs going for the first ever three Pete?

Speaker 4 Do you think there is a little added pressure in the back of some of their minds because it is something that has never been done like the Patriots during that David Tyree nightmare catch?

Speaker 21 Honestly, I don't think that Kansas City will focus too much on it. Everybody else outside does.

Speaker 21 I'm sure that they have thought about it. I'm not saying that, but in the end, they seem to be a very focused team.

Speaker 21 Andy, his three experienced coordinators, you know, Naggy, Spaggs, and Dave Taub and their team, the leadership on their team with guys like Kelsey and Mahomes and

Speaker 21 all the players that they have there that have been through this before. I think they really know that the last two games, the last two Super Bowl wins, don't really mean anything against the Eagles.

Speaker 21 They're going to have to go out there and play their very best game of the year to beat Philadelphia. And Philadelphia will know the same thing about Kansas City.

Speaker 21 They got to go play their very best game of the year. And I think that's what they're focused on, not the three-peat or whatever.
But, you know, you brought it up.

Speaker 21 I I think it's a great opportunity for the Eagles to have, you know, one of the greatest, you know, upsets like the Giants had against us,

Speaker 21 you know, to stop the three-peat by Kansas City and, you know, in NFL history. So this is going to be a historical game, you know, one way or another.
It's a great, great opportunity for both teams.

Speaker 21 Both teams are really good. It's going to be.

Speaker 21 It should be a heck of a game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, absolutely. And speaking of the game, you know, it's like the Eagles have been able to pound the rock and bully people.
That's what they've been.

Speaker 1 And they've been explosive, the most explosive team in football. And then the Chiefs, complete opposite.
They've just been winning and winning and winning. That's what the Chiefs do.

Speaker 1 They just win games somehow. Whenever they need it, they're going to get it.
Travis probably going to be a big part of it, especially if it's a big moment alongside Patrick. But everybody contributes.

Speaker 1 Even Samaji Pirine gets the game winner. And he obviously just joined their team this year.
Backup kickers are hitting game winners when they'd missed five straight kicks for other teams.

Speaker 1 It's like the Chiefs just do whatever they need to do to win. On that note, A.P.
Tone has a question for you.

Speaker 2 Yeah, coach, since Patrick Mahomes in this run has started, he is 17 and three in the playoffs. He lost to the Bucs in the Super Bowl, the Bengals in the AFC title game.

Speaker 2 And then the New England Patriots, I believe, in his first year in the AFC title game, obviously coached by you. What is it about the Chiefs that they win all these close games?

Speaker 2 And if you were preparing against them in this Super Bowl, what would be your message to your team on how to finally take them down again?

Speaker 21 Well, no, I think you said it exactly right.

Speaker 21 What I would say to anybody who plays the Chiefs in Philadelphia this week is you've got to play your best football in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 21 I mean, the Chiefs have been so good in one-score games, in close games.

Speaker 21 They find a way to win, whether it's, you know, blocking a kick against Denver that would have been the game-winning field goal, blocking a kick at the end of the

Speaker 21 Houston game that would have made it a one-score game, or whether it's making stop on defense or making the last drive field goal or last drive touchdown like they did in the Super Bowl last year.

Speaker 21 They just make the plays they need to make to win. And you better play your best football in the fourth quarter because they're a well-balanced team and they can do it in all three phases.

Speaker 21 And, you know, Pat, you mentioned it a little bit earlier, but look at the return game the last couple of weeks.

Speaker 21 Start off the Texans game with a 70-yard kickoff return and hit a 50-yard punt return against Buffalo from a guy that nobody's ever heard of. I mean,

Speaker 21 he was on injury reserve last year and on the practice squad all year, this year. And then, you know, he comes out and

Speaker 21 has two huge plays in the playoff games. And I think that also points to the playoff games in the Super Bowl are won by the team that plays the best.

Speaker 21 It isn't how many Pro Bowls you've made or what your salary is or where you were drafted or anything else. It's how you play in that game.

Speaker 21 And that'll be the big thing in this one: everybody who plays, whether it's the Eagles young secondary or

Speaker 21 Joe Tooney playing left tackle or a rookie returner for the Chiefs,

Speaker 21 anybody can be a hero or a star in this game. Look at Tom Brady.
Look at Malcolm Butler.

Speaker 21 You don't have to be a 10-year-old pro veteran. You can be a player on the team who has a role in the game and make the play that makes a difference for your team and your franchise.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, you go back to Miami when the Colts played the Saints. You remember that? Oh, yeah.
Ambush on-site kicked the second half. Thomas Morse

Speaker 1 thing just completely flips the entire game. It was a massive moment that comes out of nowhere.
And Thomas Morstead's a rookie punter for them doing kickoffs.

Speaker 1 And all of a sudden, he's signing pictures of that forever. That's the Super Bowl.
That's the moment. Who's going to take advantage of it? Well, hopefully not Stripes.
Ty has a question for you.

Speaker 28 Yeah, Coach, you dealt with this a lot during your dynastic run where it was, you know, fans and the media bitching constantly. Hey, every call goes the Patriots' way, no matter what.

Speaker 28 You know, the officials are on their side. And now we're getting that with the Chiefs.
And I think for the most part, players and coaches have kind of just stayed away from it.

Speaker 28 But even last night, Travis Kelsey basically said to the media, like, hey, why are you guys continually running with this referee story as well?

Speaker 28 Is there any way you dealt with that while you were dealing with it? Or is it one of those things where you kind of just have to ignore it?

Speaker 28 Because at this point, it's kind of got you know, almost bigger than the game. It's incredibly nauseating.
And people just assume that the only reason

Speaker 28 the Chiefs win all these one-score games is because the refs continually give them call after call.

Speaker 21 Well, you're right. We dealt with a similar thing.
And

Speaker 21 we were one of the least penalized teams in the league, especially offensively. But as a total team, we were one of the least penalized teams in the league for

Speaker 21 a long, long time. I mean, almost two decades.
And the Chiefs are doing the same thing.

Speaker 21 But really, the key to it is playing good football.

Speaker 21 I mean, let's start with eliminating pre-snap penalties, which there are really no excuse for, and eliminating post-whistle penalties, which occasionally there's a close call there, but you know, roughing a passer, hitting guys out of bounds, roughing the punter, personal fouls, you know, arguing with the referees, all those things.

Speaker 21 Those are all preventable. So good football teams don't commit those penalties.
They let their opponents do that.

Speaker 21 And then there are the plays that happen in the action of the game, and football is football. And some of them get called, some of them don't.

Speaker 21 You know, I think the officials have a tough job to do the best they can, but that's overall a pretty good group.

Speaker 21 But if you want to be a low penalized team, then don't commit pre-snap and don't commit post-whistle penalties. That's a good place to start.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, I think the reason why you had to deal with it and heard about it is because you're great, right? And how is this team that has the same set of rules as everybody else?

Speaker 1 The NFL is built for parity. If you stink, you get an early draft pick.
You can change your thing. We got a salary cap.
Okay. So everybody's allowed to use the same amount of money.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Everybody's working with the same rules here. How is this team team so good? Well, they got to be getting.

Speaker 1 It's got to be a work. There's got to be somebody helping them in the system.

Speaker 1 And it strictly comes with the greatness, I do believe, especially whenever every game that you're playing in is in prime time, which is what comes alongside greatness and being in the middle of a dynasty.

Speaker 1 More people are going to watch every one of your games.

Speaker 1 Everything that happens is going to be documented by more people, especially with this Chief team, especially with Taylor Swift being a part of it.

Speaker 1 Here's Travis Kelsey last night, whenever he was asked if he had any questions for the media.

Speaker 35 If I could ask the media one question,

Speaker 1 why are you guys leaning into this whole ref thing?

Speaker 34 You know what I mean?

Speaker 35 Like, why are you guys leaning into it?

Speaker 1 Travis is like, hey, listen, the internet is allowed to say this. Okay, the internet and fans are allowed to have their thoughts.

Speaker 1 But you as the media member, to think about how many people would have to be in on the take there to rig a game for us every single week, who would have to be able to keep a secret as I assume a commit is coming to University of North Carolina for Coach Belichick.

Speaker 1 Congratulations to you. But I like Travis just being like, you guys gassing this thing up is ridiculous because you're telling me that Roger Goodell is calling each individual ref.

Speaker 1 We get different crews every single week. So every ref in the NFL is in on it or just one ref in each crew is in on it and that's never going to be found out in the sports gambling world.

Speaker 1 So you're telling me, you media members that are gassing this up, that it's not our hard work. It's not how great we are.
It's not us being able to win and perform in pressure-packed moments.

Speaker 1 It's this refs. That's what what you guys would rather talk about.
You heard it in Travis's. Travis always tries to keep it positive.
Tries to keep it positive, but he was just like, hey, media,

Speaker 1 the fuck? Okay. Like, this is allowed to be an internet thing, but like to actually start promoting this is absurd.
And I know that refs think.

Speaker 1 So there's going to be situations where maybe there's a tie-in, like, hey, this refs daughter, massive swifty.

Speaker 1 And maybe that's going to happen, you know? And hopefully they get to the bottom of it. But I appreciate Travis just being like, yo, come on.
Let's use our brains here.

Speaker 1 The amount of people that have to keep this secret would be impossible. Now, as we pivot away from that, let's go to what you're currently doing, maybe right now with that text message.

Speaker 9 Yeah, obviously the Super Bowl week and the national championship is the goal now down there at UNC.

Speaker 9 Looking at your book kind of reminded me of the building down in Foxborough where there were some quotes from the art of war or obviously the four things you saw leaving the building, four things coming out.

Speaker 9 How similar will the setup be in the building down there compared to what it was in Foxborough?

Speaker 21 Pretty similar, Deepa. Pretty similar.
It said it would be in Carolina Blue.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 21 And it'll have the Jordan logo on it.

Speaker 1 Okay, here we go. I love that.
So what, you're Art of War? Art of War,

Speaker 1 big fan?

Speaker 21 You know, we had a,

Speaker 21 it's funny, you know, we've had a couple players come through here that, you know, have been through the Patriots program.

Speaker 21 They watch this workout and they look and say, this, you know, to the players, the Carolina players, yep, that's the exact same program we did. Same running program, same lifting program.

Speaker 21 So, yeah, we're just taking the Patriot program and

Speaker 21 what we did at New England and bringing it here. Our strength coach, Moses Cerbera, our chef, Josh Grimes, several coaches, and

Speaker 21 our whole program, Mike Lombardi, and I are just taking the whole scouting, coaching, and training program and

Speaker 21 modifying it a little bit, but it's what we did at New England. That's what we're doing here at Carolina.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's Patriot Way.

Speaker 1 Carolina Williams.

Speaker 1 You can say it.

Speaker 1 You can say it's the Patriot Way.

Speaker 1 You guys all hate it. Something like that.
Bill, Tom. The winning way.
They all hate it.

Speaker 1 Everybody outside of New England said it was the Patriot Way. We don't see it that way.
We see it as working hard, doing our job. If that's Patriot Way, so be it.
It's like you guys get so mad.

Speaker 1 That's right.

Speaker 1 Okay. That's right.
Okay. All right.
I appreciate that. I do appreciate that.
We're going to do the same exact thing here now because it is a winning model.

Speaker 1 If you want to call it the art of winning, you can certainly

Speaker 1 call it that. We're excited.
Okay,

Speaker 1 big game here, Super Bowl. You've never in your life had to give a prediction.

Speaker 1 This game comes down to fourth quarter and the Eagles have to out-execute the Chiefs? Or what is the big swing of this particular game in your eyes? And how do you see it going?

Speaker 1 You don't have to make a prediction.

Speaker 21 Well, sure, Pat, I think that's a big part of it is, is you know expect this game to come down to the final possession or fourth quarter however you want to look at it and yeah whichever team you know performs better at that point in time is gonna is going to you know be what the outcome of their season is the outcome is their season could easily end up being you know a handful of plays or maybe even one play um But I would say for the Eagles defense, you know, they're a very good coverage team and a good pass rush team, and they match well.

Speaker 21 Looking back at the, you know, previous game, previous Super Bowl with the Eagles and the

Speaker 21 Chiefs, I think a big key for them will be to match that rush and coverage against Mahomes because when they match their man-to-man coverage, if Mahomes can escape the pocket, there's a lot of room to scramble because everybody has their back turned.

Speaker 21 So I think the ball is going to have to come out on time and I think Andy will have some scheme plays to get open and beat the man coverage matches that the Eagles use. You know, on the flip side,

Speaker 21 I think we all know that if the Eagles get into some tight calls on on third and fourth down, two-minute situation, they better be ready to block the blitz.

Speaker 21 And if you look back at the Eagles season last year against Tampa, I know it was a different coordinator and all that, but

Speaker 21 against Tampa, Coach Bowles blitzed them, you know, that first playoff game and really wrecked their season down there.

Speaker 21 So, you know, Spaghets is going to have a couple of those cooked up like they did against Buffalo on that fourth and five play, you know, where he brought the safety and brought the corner off an overload, looked the other side.

Speaker 21 And, you know,

Speaker 21 that was the key play play in the game.

Speaker 21 So I'm sure that the Eagles are preparing for, you know, those kind of critical situations to make sure that they can handle the pressure when, you know, when they should definitely expect it.

Speaker 1 I love hearing that we're going to have a great game, you know, because by all accounts, whatever he decides to talk about, how a game's probably going to go, normally goes. That's why.
Yeah. Boom.

Speaker 1 Available May 6. We appreciate the hell out of you, Coach.
Good luck down there in North Carolina.

Speaker 21 Matt, can I plug the tomorrow night in New Orleans? So I'm going down to New Orleans and,

Speaker 21 you know, Jordan and Ryan Clark and I

Speaker 21 have organized a benefit for the,

Speaker 21 you know, the people who walked away from that traumatic event in New Orleans.

Speaker 21 So, you know, the ones that saw it, kind of the survivors, if you will. We're going to do an event down there at Vegas Steakhouse from 4 to 7.
So

Speaker 21 any of the Super Bowl fans that are down there in New Orleans, come down and support us and support the victims, not the victims of the, you know, the New Year's Day, you know,

Speaker 21 drive-by, you know, the massacre, you know, where all the people got hurt there, but the people who saw it and actually

Speaker 21 now have to deal with it from the, um,

Speaker 21 you know, from that, that side of it. So

Speaker 21 just want to get back to New Orleans. Ryan, of course, is from New Orleans, so he's a big part of this.
So proud to do it tomorrow night at Vegas Steakhouse in New Orleans.

Speaker 1 Vegas Steakhouse, four to seven local tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Having a front row seat to a terrorist attack is a wild, wild thing. PTSD, I mean, I couldn't even fathom.
The rest of your life. Yeah.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, and that's a very car,

Speaker 1 people, public. I mean, there's a lot of things that can be triggers there.
We appreciate you looking out. Ladies and gentlemen, the greatest coach of all time.

Speaker 1 You can see him at Vegas Steakhouse tomorrow in New Orleans, four to seven. Ladies and gentlemen, Bill Belichick.
Yeah, Bill.

Speaker 1 All right, Bill. The art of winning.

Speaker 1 You should maybe read this. Get it in an audio book.
I will.

Speaker 32 I hope he reads it. I hope he reads the audio version.
It'll be Bill.

Speaker 1 That's why I was looking for other names on here. You know, because a lot of these books people write.
Sure. Exactly.

Speaker 1 And the only reason why I'm saying that is because I've been presented a few times, like, hey, you want to write a book? It's like, I will one day, yeah.

Speaker 1 I will, I want to, someday I'll do that, I think. And it'll be the first book I read, too.
It'll kind of be fun. You know, like I'm writing it and reading it for the first time.

Speaker 1 And you're like, well, you know, you could just sit down and then we can write it. And then you just kind of correct it.
It's like,

Speaker 1 then I'm not writing a book, right? And they're like,

Speaker 1 no, but you are. but we just kind of do expedite it for you.

Speaker 27 We got like five people.

Speaker 32 We clarify your thoughts for you.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And also, we got like six people that'll just

Speaker 1 we'll have this book in 10 days. We'll have this thing ready to go.
And it's like, is that what Jack Carr's doing? No. No,

Speaker 2 no, he's not.

Speaker 4 He's releasing a new one, actually.

Speaker 1 I cannot wait. Looks awesome.
It's like if you're gonna write a book, write the fucking book. Yeah.
Get a typewriter. You should get a typewriter.

Speaker 9 Type your book.

Speaker 28 The sense of accomplishment after that.

Speaker 1 And also, lats. Oh, yeah.
I think you got a pretty good.

Speaker 1 I think you got a pretty good. Your right lat is going to be serious.

Speaker 32 You need to find one that goes, you get your left lat going, too. Yeah, I wonder, does it go?

Speaker 1 I don't know how that work, bro.

Speaker 1 You got to slide it back this way. Yeah, yeah, you're sliding to the left.

Speaker 1 You should write it.

Speaker 9 Penmanship. Feather pin.

Speaker 1 Ooh, quill. Making quill.

Speaker 4 Then you got to type it. You know what?

Speaker 1 How about mechanical pencil?

Speaker 4 Sure. Now we're talking about it.
Oh, that'd be a nightmare.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it would. That would be a nightmare.

Speaker 1 Yeah, especially whenever it gets a little bit too long and it cracks and then there's not enough left and it sneaks out and then all of a sudden you're like, damn it.

Speaker 1 I stick it back in and you're back in. Then you do too much and it sneaks and it's bright and it's cracked.
Then all of a sudden we got

Speaker 1 how many of these things are cracked out here. Terrible.
Jeez Luis,

Speaker 1 in theory.

Speaker 1 Brilliant. Great idea.
Always sharp. Always sharp.
Still good. Nothing.

Speaker 32 Still good, though.

Speaker 1 It's my choice. It is my weapon of choice.
Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 Definitely. Wow.

Speaker 1 wow definitely yeah gotta have a little touch though because i like to i like to have a good good amount of lead out there but you gotta have some touch when you're writing it this is the perfect amount can you please zoom in that is the perfect i mean that is like the the perfect sharp pencil right there i mean that's good yeah i'd even i'd probably have one more click yeah it's too long because then you gotta because then you it's crack yeah you're right you'll break it you know i mean this is the this is a sturdy hey this is a sturdy i almost need to write something right now do it i'm gonna write the first i'm gonna write the first sentence of my book here we go

Speaker 4 to read it it too. Once upon a time, in a galaxy far, far away.

Speaker 1 Hello, beautiful people.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Let's start.

Speaker 1 This

Speaker 1 all.

Speaker 1 This all.

Speaker 1 O L E? I

Speaker 1 know.

Speaker 1 This will be the first

Speaker 1 book

Speaker 1 I read.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 4 Let's get first Boom. There it is.

Speaker 1 Hello, beautiful.

Speaker 4 Put it in the archive.

Speaker 9 Good start.

Speaker 1 Go ahead and lock it in. I don't know how many words it's going to be, but I know that this is.
That's a good start.

Speaker 32 Thank you.

Speaker 1 Even a little bit of cursive in there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Beautiful. I'll drop that.
Yeah, definitely. So then they know, you know, because those rap bastards typing other people's books, if they're saying I and me, they

Speaker 1 that's a you and they. You know, and maybe even a he and she.
Fraudulent. I know all about these pronouns a little bit more nowadays than ever before.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But don't you be putting I and me whenever it's somebody else's story. Don't do it.
Now, with that being said, let's talk about we. Okay.
Let's talk about we.

Speaker 1 Did you change your thoughts on how the Super Bowl is going to go with what Bill Belichick said? I kind of did. Oh, really? Yeah.
I kind of did. Good game.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, speaking of the game, let's go to one half of the hammer. God, Cowboys, AP Tone.

Speaker 1 AP Tone, there's some gobbling questions that were kind of posed in the think tank earlier today that I think would be a good group activity out here. And also great gombling information for those.

Speaker 1 Hey, last time we get a chance to bet on football. Come on.

Speaker 1 Let's focus in. Not saying you have to, but if you are in the

Speaker 1 place where you have a little extra bucks and you want to maybe make something a little bit sweeter, maybe turn, you know, five and a ten.

Speaker 1 Maybe 10 and 20. Right.
Maybe 1437 into 8,500. Right.

Speaker 1 Not a guarantee, but it is certainly possible. You need to listen to some of these numbers.
Go ahead, AP Tone.

Speaker 2 I love groupthink. I love doing this.
I don't trust my own brain. So I started this this morning while I was going through some of the Super Bowl props.

Speaker 2 And I started with there is a Super Bowl prop player to have a catch on the first drive per team.

Speaker 8 Okay.

Speaker 2 Philadelphia Eagles, who

Speaker 2 are we thinking? Who are we thinking first drive to have a catch for the Philadelphia Eagles?

Speaker 1 Dallas Goddard. Okay, Dallas Goddard's been getting the ball a lot in this Philadelphia Eagles offense.
He's been running it. He's been catching it.

Speaker 1 And also the tight end is quarterback's best friend is what they say. Dallas Goddard's got the ball a lot.
What are the odds on Dallas Goddard getting the ball on on the first drive?

Speaker 2 He is plus 120 to get the ball on the first drive. Yes, as a catch.

Speaker 2 Now, a little fun fact: on the first drive, last game, he did not get that chance because Saquon just took it 60 yards on the first carry. But on the next drive, he did have a catch.

Speaker 2 And then the first drive on the game before that, he did have a catch on that drive as well. So we're kind of riding a little bit of a hot streak there.
What's that?

Speaker 1 Plus what? Plus 120. What are some other options there for the Philadelphia Eagles?

Speaker 2 AJ Brown is plus 110. Devonta Smith plus 140.
Saquon plus 333.

Speaker 1 Oh, you get get a catch, not a run. Now, that's a nice little script.
Screen value. Take that.
Plus 333, especially if Spaggs.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That might be in the script. Smoke got D-line.
Might be in the script. Might be in the script.
Okay, that's plus 333, plus 110, plus 120 in there for all the receivers.

Speaker 1 We like Dallas Goddard in the tight end here. Not saying you have to do it, but seems like a smart decision.
Now let's go to the other side.

Speaker 2 Yeah, same thing for the Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 1 Who are we thinking? Who are we? Travis Kelsey Worthy.

Speaker 9 You're saying Worthy? I'm going to Xavier Worthy.

Speaker 1 Okay, what's Xavier Worthy's odds?

Speaker 2 Xavier Worthy's odds are plus 110.

Speaker 1 Okay, to catch the ball in the first ride. Yes.
They will certainly want to get him going, which leads me to Travis Kelsey. Travis Kelsey in big games always gets the rock.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Travis Kelsey in the playoffs always gets the rock. Throughout the season, he wasn't scored a touchdown.
As soon as the lights came on, what happened? Tucked out.

Speaker 1 Feeding them, feeding them, feeding them, feeding them early and often. For me, I'm sticking with both tight ends, more specifically Patrick Mahomes' best friend.
AJ, you like this or don't like this?

Speaker 32 I do like this one a lot, actually.

Speaker 1 Odds have to be rather low for Travis Kelsey. Minus 110.
He is the favorite. There you go.
Okay.

Speaker 2 He's the favorite of of the Chiefs. And we looked back and potentially why.

Speaker 1 Last Super Bowl, Super Bowl, Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 Yep. The first ball went to Travis Kelsey.

Speaker 1 Playoffs last week.

Speaker 2 The Super Bowl before that, the first ball went to Travis Kelsey. So, you know, they have, obviously, go to what you were saying.
They get the ball to Travis early on.

Speaker 1 Minus 110 there for Travis. How about some other options that the Kansas City Chiefs have? Juju.
Yes, Juju is plus 400.

Speaker 2 He did have a catch on the first drive last week.

Speaker 2 The other one, Marquise Brown, he has had a catch on the first drive the last two weeks. He is plus 180.
He is the third shortest odds behind Travis Kelsey and Xavier Worthy.

Speaker 1 Okay, so there's money to be made all over this game, which leads me to that umpire for baseball.

Speaker 1 What the hell is going on over there? I don't know.

Speaker 28 He's an Iowa guy, too.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 28 Like a legit good umpire.

Speaker 1 So Gumpy and I are on a plane to Cleveland yesterday, and we're learning about this. And all of a sudden, everybody talks about the NBA, how the refs can control that.

Speaker 1 Boy, an umpire in baseball, especially because you can gamble on every pitch, right? Oh, yeah. Literally every single pitch can be gambled on.

Speaker 1 Every single at-bat, every single everything can be gambled on. So it doesn't have to be a whole game even.
It could just be one strike coming next, you know? That's great.

Speaker 1 That is

Speaker 1 the easiest thing that could, and, you know, I know there's a box that people don't want because they want the human air. They want the game.
It's like, well, you add in human air.

Speaker 1 You add in the opportunity for this to potentially happen in baseball. This is a real power play.

Speaker 1 Like, the more me and Gumpy started talking about it, it was like, now they came out and said he was not linked to any of the bets, but he was sharing an an account with somebody that was doing the betting.

Speaker 1 So what does that mean? Is he linked to know the bets onto the all of them?

Speaker 1 I don't know any of that.

Speaker 1 But boy, baseball umps, they can really cook if they really wanted to in a shady way.

Speaker 28 Yeah, but that's what's interesting is like this guy is kind of considered like one of the best umpires in the MLB. Like he's, you know, he's still very young, too.
I think he's only 38.

Speaker 28 He called a World Series game in 2022 and called a perfect game. Every single one, according to the metrics, every strike he called was supposed to be a strike.

Speaker 1 Okay, so let's not get crazy here. Exactly.
But regardless, like it made me think about baseball umps, though.

Speaker 28 But he also, he also, he, he, you know, like an investigation started, I think, in February of last year, maybe. He did not umpire this entire past season.
He's going to get suspended.

Speaker 28 He's not going to umpire the entire 2025 season. He's going to have to wait to apply for reinstatement in 2026.

Speaker 1 So, like, so many games. It's crazy.
So, you can just sneak those in at noon. These games just sneak in.
Nobody has a clue.

Speaker 1 Hey, we're going to go. We're not fucking over strike out first oh yeah we're

Speaker 1 punching them out tonight what do you mean i'll every whatever you need hey no what

Speaker 1 what get back in there all three

Speaker 1 that's what i thought

Speaker 1 hey what it was clearly outside of the box Not my. That's where boxes today.
That's where strike centers today. Sorry about it.

Speaker 1 Hey!

Speaker 1 See ya. You can do that.
I'm not saying this guy did it. Okay.
I'm not saying this guy did it. but just the thought of this made me think about baseball arms as a whole, and it's like, holy hell.

Speaker 1 Now, ladies and gentlemen, on a completely different note, I put a hashtag up to something season up a few weeks ago. Now, there's multiple things that are currently up to.
Sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's some multiple somethings that are currently up to.

Speaker 1 But we have a 15-second sneak peek at something that'll be debuting

Speaker 1 during the Super Bowl. Foxy, please run it.

Speaker 1 Attention, students. This is your principal principal speaking.
Flag football is now a girls' varsity sport. Triots after school.

Speaker 1 Magic happening everywhere because of who? Me.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.

Speaker 1 It's the NFL's commercial. Yep.
And I was casted to play the principal at a 1980s high school. And

Speaker 1 basically, because of me, our high school goods flagged football, an official varsity sport for the girls.

Speaker 1 And after watching that high school all-star game the other day, I am excited to be a part of this initiative with the NFL. They're making a big push for it.

Speaker 1 They're trying to open the game up to as many people as possible. And the skill levels, with it being an Olympic sport, are great.
And way into use,

Speaker 1 I did a lot. I did a lot of shooting.
I did a lot of scenes. Peter Berg directed it, which I think is

Speaker 1 Peter Berg. I think it's pretty good.
Two hours in makeup there for me to look like what I'm going to look like in the future. That is a fat suit, AJ.
Okay, please.

Speaker 1 Have some respect. Clearly.
It'll run right after halftime. I believe it's like two minutes or two and a half minutes or something like that.
Oh, shit. There's a lot of me in there.

Speaker 1 There's other superstars. And I was so incredibly thankful and honored that I was even asked.
And it's absurd. The rest of it is absolutely absurd.
We'll see you tomorrow from New Orleans. Goodbye.

Speaker 1 Yeah, AJ, it's fucking absurd. Looks awesome.

Speaker 32 I mean, just that quick clip is pretty absurd.

Speaker 1 I can imagine what happened.

Speaker 1 Good news is, if you know, you know, if you get older and you lose all your hair and you grow a stash, stash you're gonna look fucking awesome yeah i can't grow that stash which is certainly problematic as soon as it got on i'm like this would be sweet if i introduced but i can't i can't the hair just they're you know they're the way they envisioned the principal sure which i was classic of that high school okay

Speaker 1 they showed me a picture of it and i was like well this guy really looks like an asshole peter's like Bingo. That's what we're looking for.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's who we're looking for.
This is my first time ever acting. First time ever acting.
And I did some acting. Gumpy was there with me.

Speaker 1 This was filmed the same day as Saturday night main event in San Antonio. Okay.
So Friday fly, this was filmed in Southern California, San Diego.

Speaker 1 So Friday, I have, I fly the longest flight to California.

Speaker 25 It was might have been longer than the one to Ireland. I swear.

Speaker 1 It was so long. It might have been 4,000 knot headwind that we were flying into.
And obviously, it didn't want to leave until after I put baby girl to bed on Friday night, right?

Speaker 1 I try to do that with all my trips. I would like to be there for whenever she goes to bed.
So scheduling the flights and everything is normally a little late.

Speaker 1 I was like, it shouldn't be that bad what the projected time is. You should be able to get over there.
We were sitting on this plane, pitch black, obviously, just forever.

Speaker 1 It said on the screen, an hour left up, maybe four hours, maybe, maybe four hours. We're just

Speaker 1 flying into this thing. So we get in, miss the production dinner.
Okay. We're supposed to be at that for sure.
That was certainly something that was supposed to be.

Speaker 1 Completely missed it, landed too late. Okay.

Speaker 1 Then we have a very early call time, very early because the makeup you know oh yeah because the makeup and everything it has to happen so i already thought i blew it completely because missing this old thing bang i get in there i'm a little you know i'm a little nervous like never act never it was a lot of

Speaker 1 and uh the people were so damn professional the makeup people 30 years each of them jackie and

Speaker 1 ed dave

Speaker 1 60 years combined worth of makeup exchange

Speaker 1 they were unbelievable absolute dog these people were so damn cool. I started talking to them about their gigs.
Obviously, started talking.

Speaker 1 Lady Jackie from Chicago. She worked on Star Trek for a number of years.
Makeup. She said.
A lot of makeup. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And they were talking about if you're in a makeup world, Star Trek probably going to be a gig that you have had. She worked on that for a long time.
Guy, Ed Dave. Damn.
I'm sorry, dude.

Speaker 25 You're a good dude. I think it was Ed.

Speaker 1 Ed,

Speaker 1 he worked on Star Trek as well as many others. Sure.
Also worked on White Chicks.

Speaker 1 Which he said was a

Speaker 1 3 a.m. call time until 7 p.m.
at night

Speaker 1 for six weeks straight. And I said, it was a great movie, though.
He goes, I didn't watch. I didn't see it enough.

Speaker 1 Because that was a lot, I guess. So then, you know,

Speaker 1 as I'm getting all this done, we're in here a while. We're very close with each other, you know? It's like they're adding the bald cap onto my head.
Then they're putting the hair on top of it.

Speaker 1 Then the mustache, the amount of glue that's on my face to match the whole thing. I mean, it is.

Speaker 1 They were awesome. But we were within very close quarters for two hours straight.
I mean, just like in the trailer. And they were awesome.
Then the entire NFL crew, cool. All the extras.

Speaker 1 There's so many extras in this thing. And Peter Berg, you know, was being so cool to me, so nice to me.

Speaker 1 I'm so thankful for how he treated me, you know, because he knew that I was not comfortable with acting, you know, like this is a weird thing.

Speaker 1 And also, this is the NFL's commercial for their Super Bowl. Yeah.
And it's like massive initiative, too, that like my daughter hopefully is going to benefit from.

Speaker 1 So like, I'm trying not to look like an asshole. And a lot of people are going to see this.
So like, let's not fucking, you know. A lot of people.

Speaker 1 Let's not be terrible at this. Let's be good.
Yeah, let's be good.

Speaker 1 So, the way Peter like operated with me, the way every, like, the actual actors, the way they were talking to me was, like, so cool, so lucky to be a part of it. And

Speaker 1 from Glenn and Tim and obviously Peter, and there was a Chris, and there was.

Speaker 2 I think it was Ed.

Speaker 3 I think I found Ed.

Speaker 1 Ed, white-haired guy.

Speaker 1 Man, baby. He's a good dude.
He's a good dude. His son is a major in the army.

Speaker 1 He comes from.

Speaker 1 That is Ed. Yep, that's Ed.
That's Ed French. That's him.
Oh, he's a Boston guy. Yeah, I think that is him.

Speaker 1 That's him as a young lad. That is him as a young lad.

Speaker 2 I mean, 1951, he was born. So, yeah.

Speaker 1 So I'm looking at that photo and I'm trying to evolve him in my head for the morning. He's both Star Trek and White Chick.
So what other ads are there? Yeah, so that is definitely hip. Awesome.

Speaker 1 Like, so cool, so kind.

Speaker 1 The attention to detail. We're talking about taking a little brush with like a little paint on it and splattering it on my head

Speaker 1 during that, like

Speaker 1 with this thing for the transition from my sweater.

Speaker 28 Making sure that bald cat blends in.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I told him, I'm like, hey, I'm a sweat. Like,

Speaker 1 I am a sweater. And they're like, we'll be out there for you.
And lo and behold, Ed and Jackie every single time.

Speaker 1 Like a pit crew.

Speaker 1 It was so much fun. And it was, it was.

Speaker 32 Look at that picture.

Speaker 1 That picture alone is awesome.

Speaker 1 It's really cool. I think we'll have another 15-second teaser tomorrow.
And I think there's going to be another one the next day. Boom.
And we did a

Speaker 1 lot of shoot. I did not expect to be the,

Speaker 1 I don't know what the final thing is going to look like, but I will say for a two-minute thing,

Speaker 1 I filmed like five, six scenes. I mean, it was a lot of scenes.

Speaker 25 It was awesome to watch. There's so many people on set.
It was pretty crazy to watch.

Speaker 1 Watching Peter Berg operate at school. Awesome.
He has a dog that he rescued from Mexico during a shoot, SO. This dog, so cool.
Just kind of rolling around like Ben and Peter. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, and this dog, though, just super chill. Just super chill.
Comes over. How we doing?

Speaker 1 SO, hey, we're about to shoot, SO. All right.
Good luck.

Speaker 1 It was so cool, man.

Speaker 1 I know it's a big deal for the NFL to allow me to be a part of that. And I'm pumped.
And boys, I hope you enjoy the shit out of it.

Speaker 1 And I hope girls flag football, especially if they just showcase that all-star game there. If that's what can happen across the country, if we can add another sport here, I mean,

Speaker 1 this NFC team beat the shit out of the AFC team. They had a couple plays that were unguardable.
And it's like, hey, AFC team, can we just put these in at halftime so we can maybe put up a fight?

Speaker 1 Direct snap, pitch, throw. Look at it.
Yup. Pop pass.

Speaker 1 They did that every play. It was like that, this NFC team.
It was unguardable. I have no idea how you stop it.
Still, Andy Reid should think about running it in the actual game. Might.

Speaker 1 He might. He actually might.
Actually. But I'm pumped to be a part of it.
I'm thankful to be a part of it. Shout out to the NFL for allowing me to be a part of it.
Shout out to Ari Gold.

Speaker 1 You know, Ari Gold in there making some magic. Peter Berg making some magic in there.
And to the makeup crew, I apologize for sweating through all of your work like four or five different times.

Speaker 1 I was drenched through the suit. Yeah, it looked like a lot.
Through the fat shirt. Well, there's some scenes where I'm running and sliding down hallway.
Guy.

Speaker 1 And yelling. Can't wait to see that.
And I'm yelling, kids. I mean, it is

Speaker 1 full hallway full of kids, too. They got extras everywhere.
Oh, yeah, right. And one guy was pissed off at the letter.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, he's understanding. He's in my fucking school.
And that is, that's basically what Peter told me, you know?

Speaker 1 Peter comes into the trailer, him and Esther, while I'm getting the makeups and what makeup done. And I'm like, I think this is things that I can do, you know?

Speaker 1 And he goes, hey, listen, you know what the best do? And I was like, coop texting me. Say what you mean, mean what you say.
It's a cadney line or something like that.

Speaker 1 He's like, yes, that, but also, as soon as you get out of here, you're the principal of this fucking place.

Speaker 1 Like, as soon as you get out of here, don't eat, like, as soon as you walk out of this trailer, this is your school.

Speaker 28 So just.

Speaker 32 Daniel Tay Lewis, yeah, you're in character.

Speaker 1 He was like, act according. As soon as you get out of here, act accordingly.
So as soon as I get out of the trailer, NFL social team is like, hey, we want to do a walk and talk. And I'm like,

Speaker 1 just kind of ruined everything here so i'm like half in character in this social walk and talk

Speaker 1 in your full make in full makeup full makeup i'm walking to the first scene walking to the first scene because like peter berg like one of the greatest of all time he's like hey listen as soon as you get out of here this is your school you hate these kids never forget it they're back they think it's summer still you know this entire thing i'm like all right yeah that is how people do it that is how i've learned that's got to be how it is so like method yeah yeah method actually so it's like all right just flip the switch as soon as i get you're dressed like an asshole just you are that is who you are

Speaker 1 so i just as soon as i get out of there i flip the switch i'm like all right i'm a fucking principal this place i even like i think i get fist bumped a gumpy i'm like walking to my school man and i like walk outside and they're like can we ask you a few questions i'm like wow i'll try to follow my character right now yeah

Speaker 32 so are you going you going in and out of character with that walking talk i can't wait yeah

Speaker 1 there's principal p in there and then there is a couple like real answers and then as soon as we get to the hallway it's like all these actors are lined up, and they're literally like waiting on me for the first time.

Speaker 1 It's like, okay, now is what he was talking about. Like, hey, this is my school.
You guys, I walked, I walked through these dudes with like

Speaker 1 smack a few of them.

Speaker 4 You should have smacked a few of them in the face.

Speaker 1 Get the fuck out of my hallway. All right, it was uh, it was all it was an honor.
I enjoyed the hell out of it, and I think it's gonna be good. I hope it's gonna be good.

Speaker 1 Football, AJ, it's already February 4th. That's AJ Hawk there.
Congratulations,

Speaker 1 February 4th, 2025 already. Jeez.
Yeah.

Speaker 32 Goes quick, Mitt, doesn't it? Everything goes quick, but yeah, football season absolutely goes fast every year.

Speaker 1 Feels like just yesterday.

Speaker 1 Huh, huh? Huh? Hup! Hup! Hup! Hup! Hup!

Speaker 1 It doesn't it? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 Likely's toe out.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Just happened.
Feels like it.

Speaker 1 And then just blur.

Speaker 1 Radio row tomorrow. Yeah.
Damn. One game left.
Son of a four quarters, potentially more. Whoa.
Of high-level football. That is going to carry us through an off-season

Speaker 1 of sports we love less than football,

Speaker 1 but still love.

Speaker 4 Yeah, love sports.

Speaker 1 Because they're sports. The toxic tip was here at Boston Connor, Anti-Schmidt.
Have you wrapped your mind around the fact that we got one game left yet? I have.

Speaker 4 You know, I've also wrapped my mind around the fact that for me as a Patriots fan, my season kind of starts after the Super Bowls, you know?

Speaker 1 Free agency. The draft.
The combine. Oh, we're climbing the Lombardy Mountain next year.
Yeah, you think it ends? But really? Are you all right?

Speaker 1 We're basically combined once we get gold, man.

Speaker 4 The end is just the beginning, you know?

Speaker 1 I can't wait. Well, every new beginning comes from some other beginning's end.
Most said. And what you're talking about is next season.
And

Speaker 1 some other beginning that is ending. is 2024-2025 season.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's a bummer.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but

Speaker 1 it's going to go out in a bang. I think so, too.
I think the season had an interesting ride, didn't it? You know, at one point, highest rating since 2016.

Speaker 1 At one point, more eyes than anybody. At one point, though, there was a worry that people forgot how to play offensive football.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Remember, everybody was saying, we need some whole body DO on this football. These guys stink.
It's smack. That's what they are.
These guys can't score. He's got.

Speaker 1 What's the BO? Need some D.O. Ew.
This football stinks. That's what a lot of people were saying.
They were.

Speaker 1 And guess what the boys did?

Speaker 4 They figured it out. They put on their Dio.

Speaker 3 They always do.

Speaker 1 And they smelled great.

Speaker 1 Dove Mencare.

Speaker 1 You really got to get that away from your mouth.

Speaker 28 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, my mouth smells pretty good before I got over here. Sure.
But right now,

Speaker 1 I don't recommend it. I don't think you should do it either.
But you get some of this in your mouth. Boy, it is a pretty refreshing taste.
Yeah, it is. Your eyes, though, a whole different animal.

Speaker 1 Tell you what,

Speaker 1 if your eyes stink, do not use these. No.
Do not use Dove Men Care whole body deal. When it says whole body, they're obviously not talking about your eyeballs.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You should not get this in your eyes.

Speaker 4 Or your mouth.

Speaker 2 You know what else you should get in your eyes?

Speaker 3 What's that?

Speaker 1 It's that week, brother. CBD cream.
CBD. Carson.
Is Carson coming? Where's Carson? Man, we're going to keep that menthol CBD cream away from me. I hope not.
And

Speaker 4 we only have one tradition.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's the. Yep.

Speaker 1 Bring it home. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 Best guest is always last.

Speaker 1 Gabriel Marenzi was doing a

Speaker 1 lot of people. I mean, people have, there's a lot of people that have never experienced Gabe that are going to experience Gabe for the first time on Friday.

Speaker 4 So lucky. I wish I was one of those people.

Speaker 1 I wish I could experience Gabe Morensi for the first time. Yeah.
And just understand the whole new world is about to open up for me.

Speaker 1 There's been a man up in Canada that has been screaming about gambling on sports for 30 years. That's right.
And it's always high heat. It's always.

Speaker 1 There's a man that's rattling off five tweets within the last sentence being finished by

Speaker 1 up there in the left side of canada yeah there's a man that basically started sports gambling talk

Speaker 1 in canada and i assume he was an early adopter here in america as well yeah

Speaker 1 cabaret will bring it home on friday i got no doubt i got no there he is the goat

Speaker 1 yes he does now

Speaker 1 Canada is in an interesting spot. I think with America, we're better than we've ever been, I heard.

Speaker 1 Is that what I heard yesterday? Good meeting yesterday. We're better than we're ever.
I didn't know that guy was still.

Speaker 1 but I thought. Me neither, yeah.
But a good meeting, I heard. We're better than we've ever been.

Speaker 1 That's when I read that entire long thing during one of the breaks of Raw, I was like, all right, sounds like we're better than we've ever been with Gabriel.

Speaker 1 Can't wait to get to the Elimination Chamber in Toronto. I immediately was like, I can't wait for Gabe Morenzi on Friday.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because people that are like, you know what? Canada's not that bad, I guess.

Speaker 4 There's people saying that. They do.

Speaker 1 Wait until you see Canadians, one of Canada's best exports. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Gaborenzi. Right.
Always. On Friday.
You're going to be like, damn, maybe we don't tear if Gabe Morenzi. Right.
Kind of like Canada. Yeah, we need to.

Speaker 1 I didn't know Canada could create that. That's what people say.
There he is. And there he is.

Speaker 4 He's talking about Panache.

Speaker 1 He's got a seven-hour show today, tomorrow, the next day. And then we will see him on Friday.
And every minute of that show is somehow, some way, Paul Skeen's heat.

Speaker 1 They only created one when they created a game. Don't ask why I know this.
That man has over 400,000 tweets. Yeah, that's what I've got.

Speaker 1 I don't even think you have half that. Yeah, but he might have had 399,000 whenever this conversation about him started.

Speaker 28 It's certainly possible.

Speaker 1 That's the thing about it. He's a prolific tweeter.

Speaker 1 Let alone whenever he gets on a microphone. 430.7,000 of us.
And I'll tell you what, every single one. has been worth a read.
Yeah. You know, that's Cape Lancy football.
He's got a lot to say.

Speaker 1 I can't wait to see what his bet is that he he gives out on friday always takes the time to think about that yeah he does his super bowl jacket what's he sound like if people were to you know

Speaker 31 um i don't know he'd probably say like something along the lines of you know what pat it's actually fucking bullshit that the buffalo bills the buffalo bills should be in this super bowl yeah but they're not uh sorry game well you know it's one of those things i i still like the chiefs okay everyone wants to talk about the fucking chiefs and you know the only reason the chiefs are in this game is because they have xavier worthy and they yep i think this was maybe maybe the video where he said it.

Speaker 31 The only reason the fucking Buffalo Bills aren't in this game is because they traded their draft pick to the Chiefs because McDermott and Andy Reid are fucking buddies.

Speaker 31 It's not bad enough to be a fucking Buffalo Bills fan. Now we got to, you know, the Chiefs, the team, the Bills can't fucking beat, are back in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 31 Once again, with that being said, I like fucking Patrick Mahomes. Rushing touchdown.
First touchdown of the game.

Speaker 1 You can get that.

Speaker 31 It's going to be about plus 650, depending on what book you're at. Please shop around.
That's just one of the bets I like. I gave you guys Odell Beckham all those years ago.

Speaker 1 I'll never let you fucking forget it. You remember? Don't.
It sounded like you were.

Speaker 1 Because he did give us Odell Beckham Jr. First touchdown.
Yeah.

Speaker 31 Odell Beckham Jr., yeah, plus 750. No big deal.
A lot of people like shitting on OBJ.

Speaker 28 Not me.

Speaker 31 First touchdown score for this Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 He's jacked about everything. Yes, he is.
And he has a well-thought-out reason

Speaker 1 for everything. I have no idea how he has that much time in a day.
Honestly, 430,000 posts that's happening alongside an eight-hour show every day. At some point, he's got to sleep and eat.

Speaker 1 Can't wait to see the jacket. I don't think so.
Can't wait to see the jacket this year.

Speaker 4 His days are longer. I think they're 21 hours and that's about it.

Speaker 1 21 hours.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think he sleeps three hours.

Speaker 1 I think he's awake for 21 hours. Oh, okay, okay, okay.
Yeah, because you said his days are longer, and then you went shorter. I was like, wait, I missed something.

Speaker 1 I thought it was in a different dimension.

Speaker 4 Well, I mean, I think you're saying he's three hours down.

Speaker 1 Yeah. 21 hours up.
All day long. And thank God.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah.
Thank God. Neither.

Speaker 4 365.

Speaker 1 It's been a bummer. What was it? It started last year.
There's always like a scheduled thing on Friday now at the end of our shows. Yeah.
Gabe Morenzi, and then we have that.

Speaker 1 Gotta go. Because of where we've been.
Getting a chance to see all those shows is cool. The NFL started letting in like local podcasts and local media into radio row and like university stuff.

Speaker 1 So obviously I assume that's what a lot of people who are into media hate. Oh, yeah.
That that is happening. I don't mind it.

Speaker 1 I don't mind seeing the future, you know, like what's going to happen and how things go. I enjoy Radio Row.
I think it's a cool place. I think Radio Row is a very cool place.

Speaker 1 I can't wait to get down there.

Speaker 32 Yeah, it's weird too. Yeah, I guess it's year to year.
It's always the same, but it's always something different.

Speaker 32 There's always, like you guys talked about earlier in the show, like seeing people you haven't seen in years you played with, seeing coaches, seeing just randoms, as you said, watching you run the PTZ cam throughout the Concourse is always fun.

Speaker 32 Mad Dog, we got to hear Mad Dog kick off his show. Remember that, like, everything about it is pretty good.

Speaker 1 Last year, the Jabbawockies just popped in. Yeah, out of nowhere.
They're pretty good.

Speaker 1 Burt, yeah. When Burt popped in,

Speaker 1 so awesome. Burt and Tom, whenever C.J.
Stroud was on, CJ loved it. Yeah, loved it.
Loved it.

Speaker 4 That was one of my favorite Zaney moments we've ever had.

Speaker 1 CJ just immediately talking shit to Burt Kreischer was, this guy's a guy.

Speaker 1 Not that we didn't know before that, but just immediately, what is this? Muscle hamster looking. Isn't that what he called him?

Speaker 1 Because he was doing push-ups, right? Burt was like, I can do 50 push-ups.

Speaker 1 Everybody's like, okay, you can do 50? I can do 50. That's a lot of push-ups.
All right. One.

Speaker 1 I'm right into it. Hammer drunk.

Speaker 1 They've been promoting

Speaker 1 Loz Poros. Vodka.

Speaker 32 Is that vodka?

Speaker 1 I should know the name of it.

Speaker 1 Poor Osos. Poor Osos.
I just saw a video they had with it. But yeah, he was hammer drunk.
Oh, yeah. Vegas.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, Burt Kraiser promoting a vodka that he owns during Super Bowl week with that is, Burt's blacked out the whole time, I assume.

Speaker 1 Very drunk. I mean, that's Burt Kraiser football.
Him and Tom, though, coming in and just doing push out of nowhere. Yeah, that's a moment.
I'll remember that forever. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Because CJ had no idea what

Speaker 1 are these?

Speaker 1 CJ said, these two guys are white. That's the only reason why this has happened.
That was great. Another great line.

Speaker 1 That was another. I mean, he was just like, as soon as it happened, CJ Stroud started talking shit.
And I'm like, I love this guy. Magical moment.
I assume they'll be down there.

Speaker 1 I assume there'll be a lot of Ty wore hockey pads last year. Remember?

Speaker 1 Oh, you're a member of the Las Vegas Gold Knights. Oh, so I forgot you were on team.
What a game.

Speaker 28 Pretty jacked up that there's no event we're, you know, hopping right off the plane, going to tonight, and then having to do the show tomorrow.

Speaker 1 You don't know that?

Speaker 9 Was that a safe flight?

Speaker 1 There is a big party tonight.

Speaker 4 Yes, it was.

Speaker 28 That was awesome. I forgot about that.
Shout out, Captain Bill.

Speaker 1 Hopefully, we see him tonight.

Speaker 34 I forgot about that.

Speaker 1 I don't think he's. Gumpy and I walked on a plane last night, door door open on tarmac, completely turned off, 24 degrees inside.
Okay. Just walked inside.
Nobody lives here anymore. We sat down.

Speaker 1 Never seen it before. I have no idea planes just sit there with the doors open on tarmac.
Did you know that?

Speaker 4 No, I mean, the only reason I knew that is because we've seen that one video of that guy who runs onto the

Speaker 4 airstrip, whatever, and just takes that plane and then leaves.

Speaker 1 Okay, so last night could have happened. Gumpy and I just roll up.

Speaker 1 Doors open. We're like, all right, here we go.
Walk rated. Nobody.
Just sitting there. And boy, this is pretty chilly.
And it got pretty chilly. Outside.
There was frost on the inside of the windows.

Speaker 1 You know, because door,

Speaker 1 it didn't make ECs. It didn't make any sense.
Timing was off there. But boy, when that plane got turned back on, had a D I see inside.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you bet. You know, sure.

Speaker 1 And that's a 45-minute process. 34, 5, 50, maybe an hour.
Sure.

Speaker 1 Almost made it home before midnight. Almost.
We're in Cleveland. Short flights.

Speaker 1 You know, San Diego, Los Angeles, San Jose. I mean, it was, me me and Gumpy have been logging a lot of hours in the sky, brother, brother, and we're lucky to do it.
That's the data.

Speaker 1 But boy, when you're just sitting on a tarmac in Cleveland or a freezing cold plane with no power on it, you really start to wonder what the fuck's going on. Sure.

Speaker 1 But then you think to yourself, when I get home, I'm going to be so excited. I'm not going to sleep tonight anyways.
Bingo. So where are we headed?

Speaker 1 To a happy place called Super Bowl Week. Last night, a big part.
of Super Bowl Week happened. Media Day.
You know, back in the day, this was the run during the day.

Speaker 1 You know, this is actually something that happened during the day on Tuesdays. Select guys would talk.

Speaker 1 Everybody else would just kind of sit in the stadium or walk around the convention center uninterrupted. Just kind of something.

Speaker 1 As it's continued to grow, obviously, every single country that watches the Super Bowl, which I assume is 90% of the countries in the world, have some sort of representative.

Speaker 1 Normally, there's some Zaney stuff. Obviously, there was a band down there, local band that played in.
I assume it was a very famous band. I apologize for not knowing exactly who it is.

Speaker 1 But nonetheless, it's become a Media Day has become absurd, if you will. And it also provides a lot of access to a lot of guys that don't get to talk about a lot of things.
I enjoyed it last night.

Speaker 1 I enjoyed the clips. Didn't get to see it live because I was doing Monday Night Raw.
Jameis Winston was active out there. Yeah, he was.
He was. How do we feel about Jameis out there?

Speaker 1 I like Jameis Winston. Fun.

Speaker 9 Throwing some W cookies up to a couple of receivers, asking some questions that, you know, got some traction.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was cool.

Speaker 1 I think there was a couple that maybe he was fed by people, and we need to tell those people, don't fucking ruin Jameis Winston. Thing go.
Please.

Speaker 32 Okay. Let him go.

Speaker 1 Please. Leave him the mic.
Please just let, don't. We don't need you.
He'll figure it out. Okay.
We know you went to journalism school and we make TV stuff.

Speaker 1 Let Jameis just fucking Jameis, please, because we can tell when he was.

Speaker 1 And then you see the clip that was like, oh, that was some super genius that had an idea and thought Jameis, you should ask this in a public place. And then they post it.

Speaker 1 And everything Jameis does is magical. And we're getting to a point where he's going to be in media.

Speaker 1 Let's not try to kill this guy.

Speaker 28 Please. Okay.

Speaker 1 Let's not try to kill this guy.

Speaker 1 He is going to be an asset to football media, sports media,

Speaker 1 the world just as a whole. Bingo.

Speaker 1 And he crushed it last night. Now, congrats to Jameis.
We can't wait for you to get full time behind a microphone out there.

Speaker 1 Great questions, great energy, great vibes, and also mass amount of respect. You know, every player basically, as soon as they saw Jameis, what up, doe? Kind of having a conversation.

Speaker 1 And that's how it'll be forever with Jameis, As long as we.

Speaker 1 Let's don't ruin it. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 Let's not ruin it. It can happen.
We've seen it happen.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Don't think it can happen with Jameis. It can't.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean?

Speaker 32 I don't think it can happen. You can't take Jameis away from Jameis.
You can't.

Speaker 1 Hopefully. That's who he is.
Yeah, Jameis too good. Jameis too good, you know.
Hopefully. His dark side response, you know, being on the dark side of the media.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Him saying he came out of the womb on the dark side, but, you know, he is excited to get everything. I mean, just so perfectly, Jameis.
Just in the middle. Bang, boom, boom.
Moving.

Speaker 1 Question throwing dubs. Love it.

Speaker 1 People's favorite color? Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. Excuse me.

Speaker 1 Okay, that doesn't feel like that is. But no, no.

Speaker 32 You don't feel like that's from him?

Speaker 1 You don't think he came up with that? I don't know.

Speaker 1 I don't know, but I do.

Speaker 1 I love Jameis. We all love Jameis.
I'm happy he was there, and I hope they give him a microphone more often. But let's watch what we're putting around him.

Speaker 1 Let's make sure we are taking care of Jameis. He is going to be a special talent whenever it comes to making content.
Now, Travis Kelsey answers some questions.

Speaker 1 Here's Travis Kelsey talking about, is he going to retire, you know, his girlfriend? Maybe more. We don't know.

Speaker 1 We don't know that. Nobody knows that, I don't think.
Had a T tattooed on her thigh. Do you see it? His little chain.
That was his hat. With a charm.

Speaker 4 I don't know if it was a check. Tattoo.

Speaker 1 I think it was a chain. I think it was a chain.
It could have been like a henna. tattoo.
Yeah, something. It'd be sweet.

Speaker 1 A T with a charm, you know, and I believe there's a song that has something about that in the entirety of it. But this guy, he's on stages around the world.

Speaker 1 He's smitten with the biggest star on earth.

Speaker 1 This guy, he's playing up football. He wants to retire, as everybody.
Everybody's trying to put a deadline, an expiration date on Travis Kelsey's career. Here's him addressing that subject last night.

Speaker 34 Where will I be in three years? Oh, man. I don't know.
Hopefully still playing football.

Speaker 34 I love doing this. I love coming into work every day.
And, you know, I feel like I still got a lot of good football left in me.

Speaker 35 But

Speaker 35 we'll see what happens.

Speaker 34 I know I've been setting myself up for other opportunities in my life, and that's always been the goal, knowing that football only lasts for so long.

Speaker 34 You've got to find a way to get into another career, into another, you know, profession.

Speaker 34 And I've been doing that in my offseasons, but for the most part, I plan on being a Kansas City Chief and playing football.

Speaker 1 Okay, so that's three years he was aft. So you would say next year, he's still thinking about ball very clearly.

Speaker 1 Ownership of the Kansas City Chiefs. The Hunt family.
Hunt was asked about Andy Reid coming back next year.

Speaker 1 So what we're talking about right now, seemingly, with this Chiefs team, is what we're about to see for the what, the next 10 years, D. Bucks? You know what it sounds like from these guys?

Speaker 9 Yeah, I mean, I'm sure Chiefs fans love to hear that. I'm sure he wants to, you know, break some more records.
And yeah, he has been setting himself up off the field.

Speaker 9 Then Andy Reid, I mean, you never know when those guys decide to walk away and, you know, decide that, hey,

Speaker 9 spend some more time with family. But, I mean, they're on the precipice of.

Speaker 1 history. Yeah, absolutely.
And some people get addicted to the confetti too, AJ.

Speaker 1 And it feels like these guys, remember, after last year's Super Bowl, immediately after the Super Bowl win, they were doing an interview, maybe with Berman. Berman might have been on the sideline for,

Speaker 1 you know, his

Speaker 1 show, NFL. NFL.
Prime time. Prime time.
Which needs more airtime. Yes, it does.
Yeah, because it's Chris Berman on there.

Speaker 1 But immediately after winning that Super Bowl, him and Patrick both were like, nobody's ever won three straight.

Speaker 1 Immediately after winning it. These guys want to be great.
These guys want to be historic.

Speaker 1 And I think he even answered a question question about like holding up his end of the bargain with dating Taylor Swift. Everybody thinks he wants to retire because of Taylor Swift.

Speaker 1 And instead it's complete options. Like, I kind of got to hold up my end of the shit here.
You're talking about biggest, most famous, wealthiest, most successful, greatest.

Speaker 32 He wants to show her what he does, right? He wants to show her what he does. Great.
Like, why would he want to stop? Like, she just stepped into his life whenever this was a year, two years ago.

Speaker 32 Yeah, he wants to be like, hey, this is... This is what I do.
Why would he want to walk away?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know why that was the angle people were having. Like, well, he's dating Taylor now, so he's probably done.
It's like, you don't think Taylor

Speaker 1 is making him better, probably?

Speaker 1 Like, you don't think he's probably literally, and I know people hate talking about Taylor Swift, even though the population of the game or how popular the game is bigger than ever.

Speaker 1 The amount of things that she has done positively for the game of football and the sport as a whole, so huge, let alone little girls, just connectivity between dads. I mean, just all good, I think.

Speaker 1 You know, now, granted, there's people that are going to say bad, but it's like, she's a dog, okay she is a beast she you watch i got i watched a documentary about her because my wife is a massive fan it's like those songs ain't writing themselves okay and it's her and the marketing behind it these marketing schemes and business plan and strategy and everything it's like those aren't coming from those are coming from her She's a workhorse, an absolute workhorse who's like a perfectionist.

Speaker 1 Everything, she's a dog.

Speaker 1 She is an absolute dog, which is why I think she only motivates Travis to continue to go and to continue, as he would say, to hold up his end of the bargain in the entire thing. And they're,

Speaker 1 you know, two greats, two goats dating is a beautiful thing for society. People want to hate him, though.
You know, people want to hate him bad for it all. And I guess that's always going to exist.

Speaker 1 But I think Travis is only going to get better because of his relationship with Taylor. And I think he'll probably say it's already happened.

Speaker 28 Yeah, I mean, there's like that, you know, notion that like all these guys want to win a Super Bowl and then just like walk off into the sunset, retire.

Speaker 28 But it's like, if you look at how the Chiefs are positioned right now, he's only, what, 35? Like he's still got, it's not like he's been super injured throughout his career.

Speaker 28 Like if you could, if they do win this Super Bowl and they win three in a row, and you know Mahomes is going to be there, you know, all these other guys are going to be there.

Speaker 28 Andy Reid's going to be there. Like, fuck it.
Why not try to win five Super Bowls in a row? You know, it's like he still feels like he can play.

Speaker 28 It's not like his productivity has dropped off drastically.

Speaker 28 Like, we're just talking about how, yeah, maybe he didn't have the greatest regular season of his career this year, but boom, once the playoffs get here, like hey, this matters.

Speaker 1 Okay, exactly. Flip the switch.
And, you know, you talk about that big moment. And, I mean, doing that obviously is hilarious and awesome in a big game.
And he's done it numerous times.

Speaker 1 But, like, in the biggest moments, that energy he feels, he lives off of, I think, you know, if you talk about where, where's he going to chase that dragon at if he's not playing football?

Speaker 1 You know, like, of course, he'll be able to go on stage with Taylor and he'll be able to do things like that.

Speaker 1 But where's he going to be able to get his sense of competition and and fulfillment whenever it comes? Just like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I didn't like the notion that everybody just assumed he was going to be done just because he's dating Taylor. He signed a two-year deal last April, I guess, with the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 I assume they'll keep him around for as long as he would want to play. But they were calling for his demise this year.

Speaker 1 Pretty loudly. And then the playoffs happening.
And oh, who's taking over games? Travis Kelsey is again.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and then even just think about like earlier in the year when Rashi Rice was healthy. Like he is just now kind of entering the, like passing on the torch of information that he has.

Speaker 4 Like, Rashi Rice came out and talked about how like him and Travis would work together and kind of he would show him or kind of explain where he's sitting down, why he's sitting down, when to sit down.

Speaker 4 Then Rashi Rice was off to a historic start before he, you know, got his seasonality injury.

Speaker 4 So it's one of those things, too, where he's just now starting that like kind of passing of the torch and giving all that information and knowledge back to the game.

Speaker 9 Yeah, where he's at in his career, he would want to a guy that, you know, because Rashi Rice had become kind of the focal point of the passing offense, and Travis would almost be the number two.

Speaker 9 And then, once again, once the games really start to matter, once the rubber meets the road, playoff time, Super Bowl time, he comes and he takes over games.

Speaker 9 But yeah, at that point in the career, and you mentioned it, Patrick Mahomes got another 10 years. He'll be playing left.
Andy Reed, he'll be at a coach as long as he wants to.

Speaker 9 Chris Jones on the other side of the football. Why not ride this thing to the Wolves fall off?

Speaker 1 Yeah, and greats want to be great, you know? And if they win another Super Bowl, I just, I feel like he's like, yeah, we need to, it's going to be a four. Yeah.
Let's just, let's continue to do this.

Speaker 1 Gives you more motivation, man.

Speaker 32 I feel like these guys, especially, like, the more Super Bowls that win, they win, the more they want to win because everything else is just garbage. We don't win at all.
This is, that means nothing.

Speaker 1 And then if they lose the Super Bowl, it's like, well, we can't go out like that. Yeah.
And, you know, there's just always something.

Speaker 1 There's always, for these particular humans, there's always something that is life or death to Chase. Like, there's always, well, obviously I had to.
Oh, yeah, of course. Well, obviously, I had to.

Speaker 1 We didn't make the playoffs, so there's no way I was going to. We lost in the wild card realm.
That's not who we are. So, like, anything is potential life or death motivation for these types of guys.

Speaker 1 And I think we should talk about Travis as if he is one of those guys because he is. It's just a matter of fact.

Speaker 28 Look at his brother, too. You know, it's like he did a bunch to like keep him, you know, kind of still football at Jason and, like, take his mind off the fact he wasn't playing.

Speaker 28 But he's mentioned, like, hey, there's, like, still a big chunk of me that wishes I wouldn't have stepped away.

Speaker 28 Like, you think I don't want to be out there with this Eagles team playing in the Super Bowl? Like, when you know that you're on a team that's going to, like,

Speaker 28 barring an absolute catastrophe, the Chiefs are going to have an opportunity to, you know, win another Super Bowl next year. Like, they just are.
They're in that position.

Speaker 28 So the regret that you would potentially have, like his brother probably has a little bit.

Speaker 28 And I'm not saying he's not happy or at peace with his choice, but like you think next year, if the Chiefs are back in the Super Bowl, he's not maybe like, and if he did retire sitting on his couch, like, fuck.

Speaker 28 I wish

Speaker 1 that'd be a very nice couch, though. Without a doubt.
Which I think is what. Without a doubt.

Speaker 1 You know, yeah, it would be plush.

Speaker 1 But he's been rich for a long time. Yeah.

Speaker 28 He's going to be a nice couch no matter when he decides to retire.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he made over a hundred million in career earnings before he started dating.

Speaker 1 Everybody's like, well, he's not comfortable. It's like, this Ohio fuck has been comfortable.

Speaker 1 Like out, not as comfortable, but life has been good for Travis Kelsey and comfortable for some time because he's earned it.

Speaker 1 But now, obviously, he's with the biggest star on earth and we're incredibly proud of both of them hey keep killing it you two oh yeah we appreciate it it's good it's good for everything now let's go for the philadelphia eagles uh you know they a lot is made about statlin university the offensive line coach for the philadelphia eagles and they have the best offensive line in football if you ask anybody and they also won the trenchie for the best offensive line in all of football.

Speaker 1 One of the biggest moves they did was put Makai Bechton, former tackle, in at guard. It has gone swimmingly.
Let's hear from Coach Stotlin how that came to be.

Speaker 1 Well, I didn't never, I'm not going to lie to you. I didn't never knew that a 6'7, if you go back and look through the history books of a 6'7 guard production, you're not gonna find too many.

Speaker 1 And it was during OTAs where Nick said to me, Coach Siriani said to me,

Speaker 1 let's just try him out for a couple practices. Let's just see how he does.
And I was like, cool, let's go. Okay, Stoutland's all in, rowing in the same direction.
Maybe Coach Siriani.

Speaker 28 Maybe he's not big, dumb, dip shit.

Speaker 1 Maybe he knows ball a little bit.

Speaker 28 Yeah, well, but I thought he didn't do anything. So he just kind of stood on the sideline and was a cheerleader jumping up and down, yelling at fans.

Speaker 1 Well, I saw somebody tweet actually after I put this tweet out. They said,

Speaker 1 he's 6'7. Anybody would do that.
It was like, well, if you listen to that, actually, nobody

Speaker 1 would actually

Speaker 1 do that. Stoutland was like, Yeah, let's go ahead and do it because he loves him.
Now, let's hear Howie Roseman. Because,

Speaker 1 remember, the guy is a

Speaker 28 big, dumb dipshit.

Speaker 1 Right? The head coach of the team that is in the Super Bowl two times in the first four years of him being the head coach.

Speaker 28 He's in just no, he's a big, dumb dip shit. That's

Speaker 1 I don't know. Let's hear what Howie Roseman has to say.

Speaker 15 For a particularly impressive team,

Speaker 36 I think the first thing is that

Speaker 37 he's really keys on connection. He needs on connection with his staff, with me, with Jeffrey, and with the player.

Speaker 36 And you see that because the best teams also are the most together teams.

Speaker 37 And so, like, he really feels that strong.

Speaker 21 He also trucked.

Speaker 37 He pressed me to do my job. He doesn't second guess.
He doesn't second guess his coaches, his coordinator. He does a great job with the detail of the team.

Speaker 37 He does a great job with the strategy with the team.

Speaker 37 He puts the players in a position where he tells them what's going to happen during the week. They let it happen, so he has incredible credibility.

Speaker 38 And I think that what a lot of people see as his fire and pass on game day,

Speaker 1 we see as a positive during the week. And how much energy he brings to this game that he loves.

Speaker 36 You know, he's done an unbelievable job.

Speaker 32 Wait, but I thought. I thought Sir I knew he was a.

Speaker 28 He's just a big dumb dipshit.

Speaker 1 No, well,

Speaker 1 it seems as if he's maybe.

Speaker 28 Maybe not a big dumb dipshit.

Speaker 1 Is that what Howie just said? That he wasn't?

Speaker 28 Kind of just said that he's actually like a

Speaker 28 beautiful mind, brilliant football coach.

Speaker 5 So not.

Speaker 28 So not big dumb dipshit. Actually, the complete opposite of a big dumb dip shit.

Speaker 1 How is it, you know, we're just learning about Makai Bechton being a Siriani idea. Yeah.
Moving him into guard. Just hearing about that now.
You know, that would have been a nice piece of information

Speaker 1 to potentially be out there as your offensive line is dominating games and winning games when every lower third that is on tv says the dumbest guy in all of ball is the head coach of nick siriani question mark that's lower third that is it all do you think so stupid it is crazy he's so stamma why is it because the way he talks the way what do you think the way he acts obviously he's a little bit different he does have the moment with the crowds after games he is talking shit but he's a former player He's a former wide receiver.

Speaker 1 Like, why do you think he does get judged? And how good does this all feel now, I assume, for Sirianni for people to give him a little bit of credit, especially from within?

Speaker 9 I mean, it's got to be a part, you know, part of it is the market he's in. You know, it's a huge market.
It's a huge team.

Speaker 9 It is a job that everybody wants, and it's a certain way that people think people should go about doing their job.

Speaker 9 But when we're in the business, in a league where you're trying to hire and fire seven or eight coaches every year to find the right guy to cultivate, the right guy to build a team, if you can just put a bunch of talented guys together.

Speaker 9 Shit, the Eagles, when they put the dream team together, quote unquote, like you got to have the right guy in there to steer the ship, to send that messaging, to take care of all the little shit that we don't see.

Speaker 9 We don't see most of it. All we see is the press conferences, you know, after games, after practices, talking about injuries and things like that.

Speaker 9 And even that move, that Beckton going to guard, the fact that Sirianni didn't care that it wasn't out there, you know, this whole time, and you got, you know, the best O-line.

Speaker 9 I think that speaks volumes.

Speaker 9 What Saquon has said, him even talking about

Speaker 9 Devontae Smith and A.J. Brown dumping the Gatorade on him, like how much that meant meant to him.

Speaker 9 And Siriana has been a wide receivers guy throughout his coaching tenure, but knowing, like, hey, this team, let's build this team through behind this offensive line and behind our run game.

Speaker 9 Let's get our explosive plays there. And you just kind of got, everybody's got to sacrifice at some point when it comes to winning a championship.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but not everybody does in a lot of different places. People aren't willing to do it so.

Speaker 9 Yeah, and that's, and that's what fucking, that's what tears teams at, you know, apart at the seams a lot of times.

Speaker 9 So the fact that, you know, you can get these different egos to kind of take a different step back for the greater good. And once, you know, they're important, if they win on Sunday, you know,

Speaker 9 it's all not, you know, it's all for the greater cause, obviously. But Sirianni's done a great job.
I think so, too.

Speaker 1 I really enjoy him. He's the man.
I really enjoy him.

Speaker 1 I also love that they just took shots at him all year. Yeah.
Like, because the way Sirianni is, we know how he is.

Speaker 1 If they win that game, the way he'll...

Speaker 28 Oh, man. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 So.

Speaker 1 And then he'll say something.

Speaker 28 He might say that in the press conference. What's that? Oh, I thought I was just a big dunk dip.

Speaker 1 Like he legit, he legitimate might today.

Speaker 9 Hopefully.

Speaker 1 O-line D-line. Howie.
O-line D-line. It's a Howie.

Speaker 9 A lot of people took shots at Howie for years, you know, like

Speaker 9 the way he's put this team together, the chance that he's taking, you know, taking, paying, paying a running back, you know, because now everybody can look at it and say, obviously, Saquon Barkley, he's the number two draft pig.

Speaker 9 He's the most talented back in the the league. But for a while, for years in New York, when he was banged up, a lot of people didn't look at, hey,

Speaker 9 13 million a year when you already paid your quarterback 50 plus a year is the right move. So shout out to Howie, too, and all the other things that he did, draft-wise and free agent-wise.

Speaker 1 And also selling Saquon, because there's a lot of reports coming out there. There's probably two other offers that were bigger than the Eagles' offer.

Speaker 1 But obviously, Saquon being from the area and wanting to go play for the Eagles is the reason why he took it. So Howie had to sell him.
Siriani had to sell him. Kellen had to sell him.

Speaker 1 That obviously ends up paying paying off. And you talk about how together that team is.

Speaker 1 Talk about how together that team is. AJ, you know what the secret gravy? I'm sorry, the secret sauce is for that Philadelphia Eagles team, AJ?

Speaker 32 What would that be?

Speaker 1 Let me tell you. Paisano's all over the place.

Speaker 1 Big Glazi. We got some Mutzalel in the locker room.

Speaker 1 They got, obviously, Siriani is the head coach. Big Dom does everything.
We don't know what he, he does everything. Everything.
Everything. He's got a headset.

Speaker 1 He's got the most Italian job of all time. Yes.
Big Dom. What's he he do? It.
Okay. He's a copo.
Yeah, but what is it?

Speaker 1 He does it. Don't worry about it.
Dom does it.

Speaker 1 Okay, he does. Whenever it needs to happen, it happens.
Why? Big Dom. Dom does it.
And then you got Vic Fangio running the defense.

Speaker 1 And he's got a bunch of these dogs on the defensive side of the ball doing impressions of Vic Fangio.

Speaker 1 And it's like the togetherness of this team, they're saying maybe it's maybe it's because it is a Paisano run operation over there Anthony DiGiulio. I know whenever you read this, you started

Speaker 1 sweating a little linguine out there.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, see, just like that, you guys, you take your shots at the Italians.

Speaker 1 Who's you guys? I'm 0.01% of Italian.

Speaker 2 You just said sweating linguine.

Speaker 1 No, I said you got excited and started sweating because of linguine. That's what I meant to say.

Speaker 2 But there is no one like the Italians as far as

Speaker 2 family focused and like loyal

Speaker 1 together. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Nobody cares about family focus. Sunday dinner.
That's that truth. That's the case.

Speaker 1 What are you talking about?

Speaker 4 Respect. There's something this guy would know nothing about.

Speaker 2 A little respect to the hierarchy, to your elders, to your family, stuff like that. That's not that.

Speaker 3 That's how you build a mobile team. Thank you.
No, we don't.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Well, those exist.
Those exist.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and they made up words for him.

Speaker 4 That's a good point, Com. The only thing this is telling me is that.

Speaker 1 Who's they? The way you just. The RD.

Speaker 4 I'm just saying. I'm sure that locker room smells great after because they got

Speaker 1 ounces and ounces of cologne being spread all over the place.

Speaker 4 Which, again, no problem with it. That's a fantastic thing.
I'm sure everyone loves to smell like Versace and all those other things. And, you know, maybe that's why it's so funny.

Speaker 1 You think Secret Audi's in there?

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 4 I think everybody is. I think Dawn walks around to every single player.

Speaker 4 Come on, you gotta guess some of this.

Speaker 4 Guess some of it is. It's brand new.

Speaker 1 Custom K1.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 The Italian.

Speaker 2 First off, we would never do that because we want our own signature smell.

Speaker 3 We keep our cologne to ourselves.

Speaker 1 You guys wear dove. Dove body spray.

Speaker 1 I'm saying these. Big Dom's white.
You want some Davini? You want some of this? You want some of this? I'll get some of this. Hey,

Speaker 1 you

Speaker 1 don't know. You smell like ash.

Speaker 1 Okay. Huh? You keep walking in here with that ash.

Speaker 1 We keep spraying you with this. Okay.

Speaker 1 Congrats to the Italians. Winning you again.
Again.

Speaker 1 Okay. What do you mean again?

Speaker 1 They took over Pittsburgh. They run Pittsburgh.
Yeah. The Italians run that town.
New York. Chicago.
Chicago. They win.
I don't know. I don't know if it's.

Speaker 1 Boston, you guys got the lucky charm up there. I get it.
You got the leprechaun running around.

Speaker 4 A lot of minimum Italians in Kansas City.

Speaker 28 Certainly is. Coach Bagnolo.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Guy knows ball. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Who comes from

Speaker 1 Massachusetts?

Speaker 2 That's why we never mentioned him.

Speaker 1 How come Bill pronounces Tob's name wrong? Or am I saying his name wrong? We must be, right? Why does he keep saying Dave Taub? Because it is spelled that way, but I've always heard Tob.

Speaker 1 He hangs out with Lombo a lot. Yeah, Dave Bo

Speaker 1 came from the same. Great point.
Let's ask Lombo his thoughts on E. Can you FaceTime Lombo real quick so we can talk about these Italians in Philadelphia? What a city for it to happen?

Speaker 1 Philadelphia too? Over there by Jerk. Oh my God.
I mean, that is... Nick sent me the other day

Speaker 1 the density of the population. being Italian and it was a it was a map across the United States of America.

Speaker 1 It was like the deeper the red, the higher the percentage of the citizens are Italian in that particular city. Boy,

Speaker 1 that's the darkest red I've ever seen over Allegheny County, the Pittsburgh. I mean, it is,

Speaker 1 everything was like 20% or something.

Speaker 2 I think 20% of the population is pretty much the entire Northeast, Northeastern region. A little bit of the Southeast,

Speaker 2 a little bit of the Midwest, a bunch of the West Coast.

Speaker 1 And then you see where all the fazolis are.

Speaker 1 Just no red. Gorgeous.
Just no red. Gorgeous.

Speaker 2 The yellow brick road.

Speaker 1 Olive Garden just looked around. Give us that map.
Yeah. Oh, Jesus coming in here.
Oh, Jesus coming in here. Wait till you guys try our bottomless soup and sal you.

Speaker 1 The breadsticks. You guys are.

Speaker 1 It's just like Shanday Der. Yeah, you guys are going to love it.
Come on in here, doofuses. Come on in here, fat whites.
Come on.

Speaker 1 Get all you can. You know, did we tell you about the linguine de fettuccine? Huh? Huh? Huh? You're going to love it.
That's bottomless too. Give us an extra 20 bucks.
I could eat however much pasta.

Speaker 1 I fucking love these.

Speaker 1 Grat tea.

Speaker 1 Is that what I do? Sure.

Speaker 32 It's pretty true.

Speaker 1 It is. That is Olive Garden.
Oh, yeah. That's a business plan.
What was that?

Speaker 1 Like Burger King's business plan was they would go find where McDonald's were and went across the street because McDonald's did all the work on who is in this area. Would they shop at McDonald's?

Speaker 1 Sweet. They did that.
We'll just go right across the street. I bet you Fasolini's and Olive Garden were like, where are there not Italians at?

Speaker 1 Okay, let's

Speaker 1 boom,

Speaker 1 boom, full business. I will say, as somebody that has lived in an Italian town and somebody has lived in no Italian town,

Speaker 1 no Italian towns are missing out on a lot. A lot.

Speaker 1 And a lot. They're missing out on a lot.
Some bad.

Speaker 1 Geez. Some bad things.
What are you talking about? Like what?

Speaker 4 I'm just saying, a lot of those cities you listed, they got some high crime.

Speaker 1 They do. Every city has high crime.
Not Boston. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Safest city in America.

Speaker 1 Why? You said that three times now.

Speaker 1 Because it just came out.

Speaker 4 I think it just came out yesterday.

Speaker 1 Which, by the way, the Irish probably paid Teamsters probably paid

Speaker 1 a safest town in America.

Speaker 1 I can't run it. We teamed up finally.

Speaker 4 Really? We're all on the same team here.

Speaker 1 You know what? That's how it should be. Amen.

Speaker 1 We are all on the same team.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just like the Hulkster said. Binko.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 What do you mean? That's what he said. What are you talking about, D-Butt? Yeah.
What, you don't want to be on the Hulksters team?

Speaker 9 I think we should rewind and go back to being back all on the same team.

Speaker 1 Loves Brad Hardy to have a really good. Dude, the guy's a big NBA fan.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 D-Bud. So I see you wearing the Kevin Durant shoes.

Speaker 1 You're an NBA fan?

Speaker 9 Hey, you know, courtside. D.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I also didn't know that you don't drink. No, no, no, no.
Yeah, what happened?

Speaker 9 I just gave it up.

Speaker 1 You don't want to drink real American.

Speaker 1 All right, Hawkster.

Speaker 1 There's no way he can read comments on anything. No.
No, it'd still be the. Well, I guess he's

Speaker 32 regrets that leg drop, though.

Speaker 1 Number one regret. Number one regret.
At those 24-inch pythons. Should have put him to sleep.
You don't have any regrets or anything? Yeah, but the number one regret is I took too many bumps, brother.

Speaker 1 That's what they say about Hulk Hugo. That's right.

Speaker 32 I didn't think that's where he was going.

Speaker 1 Me neither, brother.

Speaker 1 Anyways, Hulkster, thanks for taking all those bumps for us back in the day. Thank you, Hulkster.
I think there was some other stuff that happened, some other things you should talk about.

Speaker 1 We provide an opportunity. It was not talked about.

Speaker 9 Well, I heard he had a heartfelt apology.

Speaker 1 It's a good point.

Speaker 1 I roll in a Monday Night Raw. Everybody's got opinions.
Hulkster, huh?

Speaker 1 Fucking right.

Speaker 1 Did you hear about it? I'm like, no.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 Okay. Hey, go talk to.
I got over. Folks, right?

Speaker 1 No, I did not. Everybody had a story.

Speaker 1 All glowing.

Speaker 1 I don't know. What? Yeah, I don't know.
All right.

Speaker 1 Tomorrow we'll be live in the Warlands. Hell yeah.
Yep.

Speaker 2 I can't wait for it. I saw the humidity is only 90%.

Speaker 4 So just.

Speaker 1 You know what? I'll take it. Yeah.
I will take it. It felt like I was cold for literally seven weeks straight.
You know? Yeah. Since Tennessee, Ohio Ohio State.
You're right.

Speaker 1 There was like a four-week period where I was just cold.

Speaker 1 I was literally just cold. Cause the night before, Notre Dame, Indiana.

Speaker 38 Freezing.

Speaker 1 Cold. It's overshadowed.
It was freezing. Overshadowed by how cold it was.
Tennessee, Ohio State. And then it just, remember, we go to Miami, it's fucking cold.

Speaker 1 We go to Dallas, there's an ice storm. It's fucking cold.
Everywhere it was cold. Atlanta.
Atlanta. Atlanta.
Cold. Everywhere was cold.
I was cold just for like five weeks, and I never get cold.

Speaker 1 I even started. Oh, yeah.
I started the whole for like two, two weeks. I was like this, and I'm like, what is my problem? I feel like I'm getting old.
I feel like I'm getting soft.

Speaker 1 And I realize now it's just been fucking cold everywhere. So it's nice to hear that.
It's going to be nice. You know, you mean, you know, I'm going to turn

Speaker 1 redder than that brick right back here from the inside and from the outside.

Speaker 1 I'm going to get broiled and baked.

Speaker 28 It's going to be nice and cool in the convention center, though.

Speaker 1 I'm sure.

Speaker 28 If I had to guess, it was last time.

Speaker 2 Well, as long as we're not in the parking garage, correct?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I've seen some people parked up in level D of the parking garage. You see this, H?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 workroom. Is that what it is? Yeah, Super Bowl of First.
The media workroom is located in Road D of the Superdome parking garage. I will say there's a pleasant breeze in here.

Speaker 1 So I will say Rich Eisen did a show in a parking garage. He did.
Was that in Los Angeles?

Speaker 1 Miami.

Speaker 1 Miami. Okay.
So I remember seeing that. And I remember walking.
I was told to where I was headed to. Lucky to be asked on

Speaker 1 Rich's show. Always been cool to me.
So I appreciate Rich. We're walking through this parking garage, though, and I'm like,

Speaker 1 Mickey Moss, this seems like Mickey Moss. We're fucking doing a parking garage.
I'd rather just do it. Why'd you come? Should have just done it home.
And then I got there. Massive space.

Speaker 28 His set was awesome.

Speaker 1 Massive space. Huge space.
Now, that doesn't look like it's anywhere near what his set was, but it's like, if they shut down in a whole fucking level, I mean, that's huge space. So much true.

Speaker 1 They have obviously TVs rolling and internet. So like, this is not abnormal.
I don't, now maybe all the journalists being stuck in this thing, but utilizing parking garages for spaces

Speaker 1 during massive events in cities, I don't think it is an abnormal thing.

Speaker 1 But I will say, if I walked in and I didn't know I was going to be in a parking garage all week, you could certainly see a reaction being like, so I'm fucking inside, outside all week

Speaker 1 in a parking. I'm staring at this cement pillar.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, you know, interesting, but I don't think it's the first. That That Rich Eisen set was sick.
Awesome. It was fucking huge.
Great idea. Great idea.
I don't even know who would have thought of that.

Speaker 1 Well, it probably happened before, which leads to this thing. Yeah.
We should swing by Road D, though, just see how everybody's doing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, for definitely. That's a group of people that really like us.

Speaker 4 They're having a party tonight. Yeah, first thing I go do.

Speaker 1 Who?

Speaker 3 There's a media party tonight, I believe.

Speaker 1 I haven't even.

Speaker 2 We've got a thousand emails.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 3 NFL communication emails.

Speaker 1 They are just rolling in right now. Yeah, I've read them all.

Speaker 1 What a perfect,

Speaker 1 perfect part.

Speaker 1 Just, you nailed that. I want you.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Really good sound.

Speaker 1 Appreciate that. We don't go to any of the parties.
No, we do not. We don't interact with anybody there.
We just show up, say, that person talks shit to us. All right.

Speaker 1 Dan Merino.

Speaker 1 Can't wait.

Speaker 1 Should be fun. This year, though, we're going in there with a much better attitude.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 28 Well, we're not, you know, just kind of in our own little world. You know, usually we're in like an Airbnb, just way the fuck away from everybody else.

Speaker 28 I mean, we're going to see a lot of people, I would think.

Speaker 1 Yeah, not me, Bub. Well, yeah, I mean.
That hotel door is going to be shut. Blinds are going to be closed.
I will see you boys in the morning. Show's going to end.
Maybe stop by that casino.

Speaker 5 Yeah, need to. Maybe.

Speaker 1 A couple skulls.

Speaker 1 That's a winning casino. Hey, that's a giving casino down there, AJ.
It is.

Speaker 32 Hopefully they don't tighten it up for the big Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 I am a little bit worried. I actually thought about that with how many people coming into town, are they still going to be able to be a

Speaker 1 good casino?

Speaker 1 WrestleMania, they were. That was a big event.
Every time I've been to this casino,

Speaker 1 I've won. Yep.
I don't think there's ever been a time I've walked out of there not winning. I don't think I've seen a loser.

Speaker 1 You see people walk out of a casino with smiles. Like most casinos, you walk in, people walking out dead, lifeless, just lost something from their family, or no hope.
Just see you later.

Speaker 1 Oh, buddy, we're going to have a good time in here. All right, let's just go ahead and consider this a fucking donation, I guess.

Speaker 1 You walk in at New Orleans one. It's there's Joe.
There's good vibe. It's alive.
It's alive on the way. Now, granted, that can all change.
All you need is what?

Speaker 1 A new sage to be kind of blown over a casino?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 28 Or a guy like Bill will be playing next to you.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I do remember that. Yeah.
That was in Vegas, though. It was.
You're right. Different place.
That's going to happen in Vegas. Yeah.
All right. Hey, Debuch,

Speaker 1 great season here at the Thunder.

Speaker 1 Do you want to do a giveaway on Way Out or what?

Speaker 9 Sure.

Speaker 1 What do you want to do?

Speaker 9 Throw football.

Speaker 1 Okay, Boss. Oh, yeah, you will.

Speaker 9 Let's do it. To the final boss's book?

Speaker 1 Nah.

Speaker 2 It's kind of protected.

Speaker 1 That'd be tough. It's all right.
You think you're putting in final final ballbox?

Speaker 28 It's going to have to be a layered throw.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's going to be a layered throw. It is a layered throw.

Speaker 1 Holy shit. You're going for it here.
Yep. You know, we were throwing the ball around a little bit here on stage.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we were throwing the ball around a little bit. Just like we did with that field pass.
Do you remember that Mississippi State, Alabama? Boop. Boom, boo.
Full final quarter.

Speaker 1 I mean, that might be the most completions in the history of broadcast television. It is, yeah.
We had like, what, 130 straight?

Speaker 4 Yeah, and then we found out that actually the combined score of the last last six Alabama, Mississippi State games was about 130-nothing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so we should have done that research going in, knowing that we're probably uh in for a snooze fest. Debuts loosening up, smart idea.

Speaker 1 AJ, anything you say to D-Butch, who looks very cool today, very, very cool, very, very, oh, that's D-Butch doesn't he does not need anything said to him.

Speaker 32 We know he's gonna drain this first shot to set the Super Bowl week on fire.

Speaker 1 Okay, ladies and gentlemen, for 30 people to win $500 on this Super Bowl week Tuesday, January,

Speaker 1 February 4th. Yep.

Speaker 1 Only a few days left this season. We're in Don Knoll Elmore

Speaker 1 to celebrate this Super Bowl. Hell yeah.
It's only right that we allow 30 people at home to celebrate

Speaker 1 and set them up to win $500 each. Deepunch, all you got to do is put that baby dude 2.0 into the final boss's bin.

Speaker 1 Water fountain. Whoa, that's not working.
I'll tell you what. Water fountain will shoot down a little salty water.
It was.

Speaker 1 Did you guys know that with our temperature system, K Fahrenheit,

Speaker 1 water freezes at 32 degrees? Okay.

Speaker 1 Salty water freezes zero.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 32 Do you know that?

Speaker 32 How much salt does it

Speaker 32 depend, though?

Speaker 1 Well, tell me, H.

Speaker 1 Jeez.

Speaker 32 I would imagine it was depending on the density, how much salt, right?

Speaker 1 All right, bingo. Bingo, the buoyancy also matters of the entirety of the building.
The density never freezes. Yeah, bingo.

Speaker 1 And it's not about the density it's about the depth sure and that's what this show has showcased on numerous occasions well said yeah true dbuch why don't you win 30 people 500 when you put that football into the final boss

Speaker 1 that's interception break that's going on mitchell right there yeah that's the blog that's everything db good d yeah

Speaker 1 by the net

Speaker 1 ladies and gentlemen all darius butler has to do is put that football the baby duke 2.0 into the final boss A's pit.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 you broke the final boss. Good boss.

Speaker 3 The final boss cannot be broken.

Speaker 1 Well.

Speaker 1 Look at me.

Speaker 1 Caravan.

Speaker 9 Darius, Darius,

Speaker 1 you're starting to go too quick here. You're not even thinking about what you're doing here.

Speaker 1 30 people, $500.

Speaker 1 Just quick $15,000 before we head down to New Orleans.

Speaker 1 For the beautiful people at home, do it for

Speaker 1 more.

Speaker 1 We got one more shot at this thing, thing, thing, thing, ding, ding, ting, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, pump, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, pump, pump, pump, pink, pop, pump, pump, pump, pop, pump, pump, pump, pump, beep, bump, ding, buck, pump, pump, beep, buck, pump, ding, buck, pump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump.

Speaker 1 Baby 2.0. Into the final boss.
It's babe.

Speaker 1 It was close.

Speaker 1 It was close.

Speaker 9 Subscribe, boss.

Speaker 1 It's a loss.

Speaker 1 It's a loss.

Speaker 1 And now we know.

Speaker 1 Now we know.

Speaker 1 It ain't a cost.

Speaker 1 It ain't a cost.

Speaker 1 And it was hard.

Speaker 1 And it was hard.

Speaker 1 Through.

Speaker 1 That ball.

Speaker 1 Now we'll go.

Speaker 1 Down to NOLA.

Speaker 1 And we'll do some giveaways down there. Listen, don't think it's over for the season.
Okay? Oh, no. We got basketball hoop down at the

Speaker 1 set down in New Orleans. Luca.

Speaker 1 Oh. oh whoa nice wow that's gonna hit so much different now yeah that laker across the front yeah yeah

Speaker 1 mid already bought three jerseys yep yeah

Speaker 9 told me did he tell you what he put on the back he did yeah why i wasn't here he said it's getting made custom yeah because he didn't know how to spell yeah

Speaker 1 i think you could just select it as an option but i would assume so but he said yeah i want to make a custom one with his name on it that's mid football and then he said i don't know if the eye has the left or right lean on it i know and you it's not like you can look that up anywhere and figure it out either.

Speaker 1 So, I put Luca across the back, it's got Luca, L-O-O-K-A.

Speaker 1 That's mid-football.

Speaker 1 I hope that's real. It is, we don't know.

Speaker 1 We'll find out. We have no idea.
We'll see. Yeah, that's called a tease.
All right, uh, speaking of tease,

Speaker 1 can't believe I'm in that commercial. It's awesome.
That was cool that that happened.

Speaker 1 That was really cool.

Speaker 1 Let's not make that a habit. Or.

Speaker 1 It felt so weird. The amount of people.
I don't want to get into it. So many people, depending upon, like,

Speaker 1 you know. Hey, let's make sure we nailed the exact spot you're stopping on.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I put this light here. Okay.
This is where you need to be. Like, the way they're saying to me, hey,

Speaker 1 my job here is... to light this fucking spot, so why don't you

Speaker 1 just go to the spot? Okay? Thank you. Make everybody's life easier, including mine.
It's like, oh,

Speaker 1 didn't even think about that. And then audio, same exact thing.
It's like, let's make sure we're hitting our beats. This person's walking at this exact time.
You need to make sure

Speaker 1 this person's right here. Let's not.
And I'm running and sliding down the hallway. Can you stop fucking right here, please? We got this thing in the sky.
Okay.

Speaker 1 No pressure. Fucking everybody's job depending upon you being something that you're not.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Let's do it. But it was like, it was cool to experience the process, like the entire thing.

Speaker 1 The amount of professionalism across the board for every job, every single job, it's like a matter of life and death. And it's like, listen, I hope they pay you no matter what happens here.
Okay.

Speaker 1 And if I fuck this up, I will tell everybody that I fucked this up. Just want to let you know that, okay? I did flub a line.

Speaker 1 I flubbed the line.

Speaker 1 I was so bummed about it because I had to reset everything. And it's like 100 people.
It's going to happen. 100 people got to move.
And it's like a job.

Speaker 1 Wow, I'm just walking down the middle of the hallway as all these people are like Rhys.

Speaker 1 Reese's doing this entire thing. I'm like, you're the fucking worst human of all time.
They're used to it. I don't.
Oh, yeah. Not with me.

Speaker 2 Unless they're working strictly with Dan Marino, they're used to it.

Speaker 1 No flubs. Fucking send it.

Speaker 1 When's he on? Friday. Oh,

Speaker 1 and Gabe Morenzi? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Fucking

Speaker 1 send it. That's what we're going to do.
Not New Orleans. AJ, we'll see you in a bit.

Speaker 1 All right, it's been a fun season. Let's celebrate the season that was down there.

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Then we're going to be off for a bit.

Speaker 1 Then we're going to be off for a little bit.

Speaker 1 A few days.

Speaker 4 Then the Kanban. Then Kanban.

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