PMS 2.0 1284 - AFC/NFC Championship Preview & Picks, Pete Caroll Named Head Coach of the Raiders, Liam Coen Named Head Coach of the Jaguars, Adam Schefter, Bill Belichick, & AJ Hawk

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our Humble the Boat, the Thunderdome, on this Feel Good Friday, January 24th, 2025. This program starts now.
Football! It is wonderful, and we are just hours away from championship weekend of the NFL season as the AFC will crown their champion, and the NFC will crown their champion. Then those two will do battle down in New Orleans to see who is the world champion.
Obviously the NFC has the Washington Commanders which is obviously a surprise with a rookie quarterback, a rookie head coach, well it's not his first time being a head coach. First year there, new ownership, new offense coordinator, brand new vibes all over the place taking on the Philadelphia Eagles, who are six-point favorites at home.
How are they going to be able to adjust to Jalen Hurts' knee injury? You know, a little hip-drop tackle potentially last week whenever he got rolled up on how healthy will he be? How will that Eagles offense look? And will Saquon Barkley be able to run his way and his team to a Super Bowl? We shall see. And then the Buffalo Bills look to do something that they've never been able to do, which is beat Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs in the playoffs on the biggest stage, the AFC Championship.
Two teams operating as buzz saws in the AFC with history and legacy and titles on the line. It is going to be an absolutely phenomenal Sunday, kicking off at 3 o'clock on Fox.
And then obviously the CBS game for the AFC Championship caps it off. Saturday night main event tomorrow night.
Cannot wait for a fantastic weekend. We're lucky to be here.
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Con man, biggest story going into the weekend. Lineman being hurt.
I believe Juergens is out or at least hasn't practiced for the eagles and of course cosme for the commanders he uh he tore his acl so he is definitely out this week and i think that is a massive storyline especially because jalen carter arguably the greatest you know defensive tackle in the history of football at least definitely donald will certainly have a conversation no doubt no doubt about it still him being there uh against the commies offense and kind of wreaking havoc. And then, of course, the Eagles relying on Saquon, that run defense with the injuries that they got.
Goddard, I believe, is another guy who's kind of questionable on the fence whether he's playing or not. I think that's a huge storyline.
And then, of course, Josh Allen. Can he get it done? Yeah, Ty Schmidt, what's your big storyline? I think it is Josh Allen.
We talked about it a little bit yesterday. I mean, he could go from potentially – this is the best season he's had in his career.
But if he doesn't win an MVP and they get beat, then what are we going to talk about? It's almost like it's all for naught. Can he get over the hump? Everyone knows about Buffalo's postseason woes, not just against the Chiefs, but in general.
So, I mean, I think that you either go from having all these personal accolades that you don't get, you know, and you don't win a Super Bowl, or the Bills go on, they make the Super Bowl, potentially win it, and then who cares if you want an MVP? None of that stuff matters because it is about legacy. Let's go to one half of the hammer.
Got it. Cowboys, AP tone.
There's a rookie quarterback in the championship round. Jaden Daniels, who I just

heard his mom give an interview, and I don't know

when it's from. It's on Prime.

What's your biggest worry about Jaden? Women.

He's going to be single.

He's got some things to accomplish. We're keeping

the women away from him. She's his agent

slash momager slash mom.

I love everything about it. She's like, I'm going to protect

my boy. Well, what they've done

with Jaden over there in

D.C. with Cliff Kingsbury as the O.C.

Terry McLaurin having, obviously, another

I don't know. I love everything about it.
She's like, I'm going to protect my boy. Well, what they've done with Jaden over there in D.C.
with Cliff Kingsbury as the O.C., Terry McLaurin having obviously another highlight-filled career. His career is awesome.
And I'm so happy for him that he's got Jaden Daniels there. And I think going into this season, you know, is Caleb Williams going to be the guy? Is Drake May going to be the guy? Is Michael Penix going to be the guy? Is Bo Nix going to be the guy? Or is Jaden Daniels at LSU going to be the guy? He has too many weapons down there.
What does he really want? He had to transfer to do that entire thing at LSU and not national champions. Is he going to be a guy or is he not going to be a guy? He is, and he is special.
This has been an elite season. He has a chance to do something no rookie quarterback has ever done.
Now, granted, he is obviously climbing the ranks of greatest rookie in the history of the NFL. I think people will talk about that regardless of how this game goes this weekend.
But Jaden Daniels is special, and we get a chance to see it on Sunday. Yeah, and he does have a chance to set history this weekend.
I believe with a win this weekend, he will have the most wins in a rookie season, passing Ben Rosberger if he wins this weekend. Also, when you talk about rookie quarterbacks that have made it to this game, Ben being one of them, Joe Flacco being another one, there's a handful of others where they were on the team where they had the number one points per game or yards per game defense.
He is the 18th ranked yards per game, points per game defense. So this is something that he's doing where it's not carried by the defense.
It's carried by him, and he is setting records, and he's going for one of the greatest rookie seasons of all time. Zach Ertz, obviously tight end, has become a massive piece for that Washington Commanders offense and obviously Terry McLaurin, we talk about him, but what Jaden and that offensive line and Cliff have been able to do is mesmerizing.
Feels like nobody wants the Eagles or the Chiefs to win. What? It does certainly feel like that.
Feels like nobody wants the Eagles or the Chiefs to win. Feels like everybody wants the Chiefs to lose because the Chiefs is the Chief and the Chiefs is still the Chiefs.
And until they lose in the playoffs, you can't say that they're no longer the Chiefs. And the dynastic run is certainly going to take a step higher if they win three straight Super Bowls.
No team has ever done that in the modern era. Nobody wants the Chiefs to win.
They're at the top of the mountain. You know, just like Taylor Swift says, people throw rocks at things that shine.
And the Chiefs have been shining on the biggest stages for a long, long time now, especially during the 29-year-old Patrick Mahomes' career over there. He's been to the Super Bowl five times.
Absurd. Already, as a 29-year-old.
Certainly has lost the Super Bowl before. This guy stinks.
Certainly won a bunch as well. Everybody wants the Bills, seemingly, to beat the Chiefs.
And then when you think about this Commander story, it's yeah i think football fans want the commanders to win because you look just one year ago they were shite shite absolute shite we're talking about down in the pit just like the bangles a couple years ago remember the bangles a couple years back before they make it to the super bowl inevitably lose to the los angeles rams in la they were an absolute shite show i mean then joe burrow gets healthy for a season they make it to The Super Bowl and inevitably lose to the Los Angeles Rams in L.A. They were an absolute shite show.
I mean, then Joe Burrow gets healthy for a season. They make it to the Super Bowl.
Teams and fans around the country are like, wait, if they can do it, we can do it. If the commanders are able to go from what they were, laughingstock, what it was like expose after expose, after book, after documentary, after lawsuit, after litigation, after everything, this team sucks.
This team stinks. This team is a nothing franchise.
This team should be kicked out of the league, Greg, is what people were saying about the Washington Commanders, formerly known as the Washington football team, formerly known as the Washington, what was the name of that? J.J. Watt said it.
Yeah. Oh, Redskins.
The Washington Redskins is what they were. Fans have been around for a long time, but they've been brutalized supporting that team for a very long time.
Now, if you're a fan for another team that's kind of shite and kind of crap, you're like, all we are is one new ownership, one new head coach, one new quarterback away from potentially going to a Super Bowl, which is why I think nobody really wants the Eagles, because I think people want to believe that their team can go from absolute ass and trash to absolute glory, which is what the commanders been able to do yeah and if i don't know if people are betting with their hearts or not but that reflects in the public betting 68 of the bets are on the commanders 81 are on the bills uh so yeah exactly what that is exactly what this is everybody wants you know the bills to top with the chiefs and then if the bills were to get to the commanders in the Super Bowl, hate to break the Bills mafia, the world would not want the Bills. They would want the commanders to win there.
Now, granted, history tells us that the Super Bowl logo and the color scheme that they choose somehow, someway, has normally been the colors of the teams that play in the Super Bowl. That's right.
Red and green, pretty prominent in this particular logo. And I'm not saying there's a script.
Hasn't been a lot of that talk this year. Thank the Lord.
Thank God. Because the refs have sucked, certainly in different situations.
But I think they've been good more than they've sucked. So shout out to the refs.
Good work, refs. Shout out to the refs.
Now, I've been to the Kansas City Chiefs alternate logo. People are saying it has stripes on it.
And there's AI and, you know, maybe AI for a lot of these photos saying the Chiefs and the refs are on the same team and everything like that but feels like the script conversation this year has died down a lot than in previous years and i think it's because the refs have done much better than they have in the past but red green that says chiefs eagles are going to win this if you look in the past of these logos but nobody's looking for that con yeah no not at all but I am in the camp of Team Eagles. I think that the way the Eagles kind of did their entire team, there was a graphic earlier.
They got the assistant coach of the year finalist with Vic Fangio. He's brand new to that team.
Two of the five defensive rookie of the years, they're brand new, obviously, to the team. Defensive player of the year, brand new, Zach Bond.
Offensive player of the year and MVP, Saquon, brand new. And as a person who has a team that is also shite, that is a way that I think you can do it.
Draft, free agency, kind of flip your entire team because last year, obviously, they were one and done in the playoffs against the Bucs. Actually, season almost tanked, basically.
They were, what, 10-1, leading their division, leading the conference. This team's going to get a first round bye right then a shot just absolute show the rest of the season the cowboys ended up winning the division but i want the eagles to win i think the way their team's built is awesome running the football winning in the trenches i think is a very very easy way to kind of get those people to love you because it's ground and pound football.
And then, of course, you know, one of the goats, Bradley Cooper, is a fan of that team. So I also want a little happiness for him.
And then, yeah, I think the bills are universal. I think the 81% shows that, too, just because people are sick of the Chiefs.
And, of course, selfishly as a Patriots fan, if the Chiefs win three in a row, that will happen. They'll say they're burning.
That'll have the legs for greatest dynasty of all time. I mean, it comes as no surprise, too.

They've been telling us

for a long time. Sirianni said, hey,

O-line, D-line, Howie.

O-line, D-line. You know, that's not just

a moniker of a guy who everyone

thinks is a dipshit. It's actually

how you build and construct

a potential Super Bowl juggernaut.

And that's what they've done. O-line, D-line, Howie.
Even though A.Q. Shipley doesn't believe it.
No, he doesn't. That's unbelievable to me.
Although he kind of does, but then he doesn't. He says they have the best O-line, but apparently that doesn't win you football games in the playoffs.
Speaking of O-line, Deion Dawkins is saying that before I'm done here, we're going to have an award for the Fatso's. Now, granted, we gave him out this year, the Trenchies.
Deion Dawkins was a finalist lane johnson won the trenchy for best tackle but here's deon dawkins saying the nfl needs to recognize the big boys as well thing for an individual that is a part of this league to be able to get an award for being great and i'll circle back on you know offensive linemen don't have awards for being great. You know, there's not a protector of the year award.
I'm knocking at so many doors now to get this award going. And I'm going to head spirit and make sure that this gets done before I'm done playing.
Because there's so many greats. There's so many greats.
And we have great quarterbacks. We have great running backs.
We have rushing titles rushing titles we have quarterback passing titles all those titles are reflections of the old linemen which are the protectors and uh soon to come but yeah i'm glad that the that our mcdermott is up for an award yeah hey listen i'm happy mcdermott's up for an award i'm happy josh allen's up for an award okay let James Cook probably up for an award. Hey, listen, I'm happy McDermott's up for an award.
I'm happy Josh Allen's up for an award, okay? Let James Cook probably up for an award. But how about the big boys? And I'm going to continue to spearhead this entire thing, which I respect.
Once again, we give away the Trenchies this year. Congrats to all the winners of the Trenchies.
I think it's a very vital piece of an NFL team. It's like the most important part of an NFL offense.
Nothing goes unless your big boys have the ability to move other men. And there's going to be a battle of Goliaths this weekend on Sunday in Championship Weekend.
Now, we turn our head to some breaking news. Congrats to Pete Carroll.
Pete Carroll has been named the head coach of the Las Vegas Raiders. This seems like the worst kept secret in football over the last few days.
Our circles were telling us that. The internet was saying that Pete Carroll had a chance.
Michael Lombardi, who I believe was speaking to Tom Brady throughout this entire process. Tom Brady leading the charge on the interviews of the head coach and the GM.
GM Spy Tech from Tampa when Tom was down there, got to know each other well. Pete Carroll is a guy that gives them immediate legitimacy.
Now, he's 73 years old. It was a three-year deal with a fourth-year team option.
He'd be 76 at the time, 77 at the time. Anybody that's ever been around Pete Carroll, though, says, this guy's like a 40-year-old, man.
This guy's like a 30-year-old. His energy is off the charts.
And if you do recall, he was kicked out of the Seattle Seahawks organization. He didn't know he was going to get fired whenever he got fired last year, after last offseason.
He walked in there and there and he said i fought like hell i competed for my job to lay out how i think i could write the ship with this seahawks team so whenever he gets abruptly kicked out of the seattle seahawks organization i think he had to figure out what the hell he was going to do for a year then his name started getting mentioned chicago bears maybe jerry jones allegedly been calling pete carroll and we think we believe football guys are going to remain football guys Doesn't matter if you're 73. Doesn't matter if you're 63.
Doesn't mean if you're 103. I think Pete Carroll knows exactly what to do.
He's won a college national championship. He's won a Super Bowl championship.
This guy knows ball. And also, he can spin it.
He's got a gun. There's videos of him in his 70s working with the scout team, throwing balls, no-look throws.
His energy is contagious. The way he goes about doing his thing, we all recognize and understand.
He's going to bring a positivity, a competitive mindset, and hopefully the Raiders back into relevancy, which is all anybody could hope for in the NFL because when the Raiders are good, the NFL is better. I love that Tom Brady made this pick.
I love that this is where the Raiders are headed. They're going to need a quarterback now.
Is Russell Wilson, who just spoke glowingly of Pete Carroll on our program the other day, who's potentially a free agent going forward, going to reunite with Pete Carroll, even though the way it ended wasn't how anybody would have expected or wanted. We shall see.
I love the Pete Carroll hire in Las Vegas. And Tom Brady didn't want to do a brand-new guy to find out if he's going to be a head coach.
I want to know what we're getting. Pete Carroll, you know exactly what you're getting, Conman.
Yeah, and it's like another culture hire. Like for New England with Rabel, this is the same exact thing with Pete Carroll, a building that's kind of been turned over, what, twice in the last two years, basically.
You could argue three times in the last two years, but this is awesome. And then, yeah, the division itself is asinine.
The fact that it's Harbaugh, Carroll, Peyton, Reed, three of those four have won Super Bowls. Jim Harbaugh's been to a Super Bowl, also a national champion in college.
Like, all these guys know how to win. I mean, you could easily make the argument this is now the toughest division in football with Pete Carroll, if he's able to turn around the Raiders, which I think we all believe he is.
I mean, the NFC East has two teams in the conference championship, so obviously we have to pay them respect. But whenever you look at this murderers row of great coaches in the AFC West, you have to have the conversation.
Now, everybody's chasing the big one on the far right. Everyone's chasing.
Now, this is kind of what happened. You know, when the Patriots were doing their thing, they just murdered the AFC East.
A lot of change in all those other places. Well, if the Patriots are able to, how come we're not able to do it? In the AFC South, when Peyton Manning and the boys were running the Colts, a lot of turnover trying to chase it.
Now, you see these three other teams trying to catch up to the Chiefs, three other teams with opportunity, and you go down, Jim Harbaugh, we love him. We absolutely love him.
The man. Got a quarterback.
Sean Payton, we love him. Absolutely love him the man got a quarterback sean payton we love him absolutely love got a quarterback andy reed we love him got a quarterback the only thing pete carroll doesn't have is a quarterback over there in las vegas i'll be eager to see what they decide to do go ahead tone because of his age um do you think we should pay attention to who the oc and dc hires are to see if like maybe during his interview process there was a potential succession plan like hey after I have someone in mind who I think would be a great head coach moving forward after my three or four years do you do you think that could have potentially been like part of the interview process because of his age I was just thinking off I'm not sure I don't think they're thinking about the future I think they're thinking about right now I think Tom Brady had to check to see hey you eating avocado ice cream or you eating sure you know Derek Winner greater sure Ben Jarris what is your dirt cake come on so good yeah it's got a little crack at the top there at the top yeah the top is so good can't be having too much of that obviously but Pete Carroll at 73 is not doing that no we would assume he's taking care of himself everybody that's been around him said energy is awesome.
Congrats to Pete Carroll getting a job back in the NFL where we assumed he would always be. Then let's go down to the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Wow, there's chaos. There's absolute chaos.
There's been a lot of terrible things said about this guy from the people of Tampa Bay. Liam Cohen, the new head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Congrats to him. I think there's been a lot of potential misreporting.
Maybe. I don't know.
Reports say this. Reports say this.
Reports say that. There's been chaos through this Liam Cohen situation.
It all started Sunday, January 12th. Jags owner says GM Balky would be fired if a new head coach wants him out.
Remember, this was on a Zoom call. We saw it.
It was awesome. Shahid Khan, Shad Khan, and Trent Balky were sitting on a Zoom.
There were only two on the screen. He was was asked if a new coach wants a new GM would you do it he goes absolutely I get rid of this guy if that's what a coach wants Baalke just has to sit there and take it he's been there for a long long time then on Wednesday Cohen interviews on zoom then on Monday January 20th Cohen interviews in person remember Baker Mayfield is not getting people jobs oh yeah Baker Mayfield success has gotten people jobs obviously canalis with carolina now with liam cohen then on wednesday january 22nd two days after he interviews in person allegedly he withdrew his name from the jaguars head coaching search and got a deal from the tampa bay buccaneers to either double his salary but at least make it the biggest coordinator salary in the history of the NFL.

We reached out to some people that know this world well, and we said,

hey, when somebody removes their name from a head coaching search, why is it?

Or it gets reported that a coach removes his name from a head coaching search.

What does that mean?

Well, it potentially means that the owner of the team he's currently on said,

hey, here's a new deal.

All you do is remove your name.

You'd rather have bird in the hand than two in the bush. you'd rather have a guaranteed massive contract than a potential massive contract or that person thinks that they're not going to get the job we're not going to do the song and dance anymore want to refocus well it was reported that he was given a massive pay increase to be stay with the tampa bay buccaneers once again we don't know if liam cohen said any of this this is all the that are just being reported.
Then you go a day later, Cohen didn't sign his contract. He meets with the Jags again in secrecy, allegedly.
Then we get to last night, he's offered the job. Now he's making $13 million a year, allegedly.
For the next five years, it's like $60 million or something. Joining us now is Amanda probably knows the ins and outs a little bit better.
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers fans are saying, this guy's a scumbag. This guy is a scumbag.
But if you're a Jacksonville Jaguars fan, you've got to be pumped that Trevor Lawrence is going to get an offensive guru to potentially get everything rolling over there. Ladies and gentlemen, senior NFL insider for ESPN, Adam Schefter.
Yay, Schefter! Schefter, we know you're very busy. We appreciate the hell out of you.
It was reported all these things about Liam Cohen. He withdrew his namerew his name he did this he did that his wife has come out and said that their kid was sick during all this so what's real what is what do you think is real what isn't at this moment shefter well i think there's two different sides of this okay i think liam cohen would tell you that he feels like this was his right and by the way in the n with contracts, even if there's a signed contract as a coordinator, it is within your rights to go take a head coaching job anywhere else you want.
I think that he felt like the Buccaneers, right or wrong, I'm just telling you what he felt like, the Buccaneers strong-armed him into this deal, and he signed the deal. And the Buccaneers would say, we made him the highest-paid coordinator in NFL history.
And then when we tried to figure out where he was, we could not find him throughout the course of the day on Thursday to get him to sign that contract. And they say that they reached out multiple times.
He says he was in touch with Todd Bowles and informed him of his decision to interview with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Again, there are two different versions to this and how this is going to go.
Hold on one second. Hold on one second.
We'll mute you. We'll mute you.
There's obviously a couple.

Saints in Dallas are now the only remaining head coaching spots. Schefter potentially is getting information on that.
Or maybe an OC job or DC job at one of these new places. He said, turn to the side.
Yeah, I'm on TV. I'll talk to you in a second.
Okay, here we go. And we're back.
Okay. Yeah, I'm back.
Yep. So again, I think Liam Cohn has his thoughts and the Buccaneers have their thoughts and you can believe whatever you want.
I'm just telling you there's two different schools of thought. And I would say this.
in 20 years this century since the turn of the same I don't remember the last time I heard one team this hot and bothered about a coach taking another deal. They were hot.
But by the way, his side is like we didn't do anything wrong. We were exploring our rights.
We took this contract. We let them know.
Again, you believe what you want to believe. I'm just the messenger giving you all the sides of the story.
Standard operating procedure, though, from ownership, whenever a coach is potentially in the mix for another head coaching job, a coordinator, is to offer a little bit more money to withdraw the name, though, right? This is standard operating procedure the way this normally works? Withdraw the name? What do you mean? You froze there for a moment. I'm sorry.
I didn't hear you there, Pat. Hey, so whenever an owner comes to a coordinator and his name is up for a job, this is very normal procedure from teams to offer a big pay raise to withdraw your name, right? I don't think that's standard.
I think that this was an exception. They were making him the highest paid coordinator, but I think his camp felt like they were being, again, I'll use that word, strong-armed into a deal.
And I don't know why, but they felt that way. That's how they felt.
And the Buccaneers say, we should be so fortunate to be strong-armed into a deal that would make us the highest paid coordinator in the game. Again, everybody's got their side.
So I'm trying to be fair to everybody here. And it's not easy because there's a lot of different versions of how this is going down so uh i i can just tell you that like i said i i don't remember the last time i heard a team that irate over a coaching decision okay so tampa's pissed all right we shall see how that ends up working out uh with colin they lose spy tech over to las vegas uh their assistant general manager let's talk about las vegas they hire pete carroll pete carroll's name was dropped i think in the chicago bears we thought maybe it was an agent working this entire thing how real was pete carroll to anywhere other than las vegas hold on hold on so it wasn't an agent working the entire thing on pete carroll pet it wasn't turns out turns out potentially not so that's I want to talk about.
How real was Pete Carroll anywhere else other than Las Vegas? And why do you think Tom Brady inevitably went this way? Because we have been told that Tom was kind of him and Davis both, but Tom was running the interviews basically for the Raiders. Yeah, I think that this was all about Tom leading an organization and finding somebody that he had respect for.
Look, they were interested in Ben Johnson, and Ben Johnson opted to go to Chicago. And I think when you're the Raiders, and you don't have a quarterback, and you feel like you need to reset some things, you're trying to get somebody that they feel like needs to turn around the culture and help build the program back up.
That's how they feel. They know there's no quick fixes.
I think they think that by bringing in Pete, who is this guy's incredible. He has got so much energy and he is such an inspiration.
If we go back to O's, right? It took O's to Seattle to perform for the Seahawks a few summers ago. And, you know, I've been...
Pete figured him out. Pete figured it out.
Pete figured out O's. Well, first, mesmerized by O's, right? And so, like, he couldn't ask enough questions.
But anyway, he brings it into the meeting room in the morning. And I'm sure a lot of teams have versions of this, but I'd never seen it.
It was like a DJ up front. It was like nightclub music.
Songs I'd never heard that I downloaded into my Spotify so I could listen to it because it just felt like I was pumped. They had basketball hoops and guys shooting hoops and dancing and Pete coming and it's rah-rah and they're young like I got tired being at the meeting for three hours like I was worn out by the end of the meeting and this guy is unbelievable and so he's 73 years old he's gonna be the oldest head coach in the history of the National Football League next season to tie this all together when Pete Carroll was in his very first season as the head coach of the New York Jets his very first first-round draft pick in 1994 I believe was Aaron Glenn 30 plus years later Aaron Glenn is hired as the head coach of the New York Jets and Pete Carroll is hired as the head coach of the Las Vegas Raiders so his very first first draft pick is now a head coach.
He's got so much energy, and I think that the Raiders felt like, okay, we know this is going to be a little while. We don't have the quarterback we want.
We want to make this program, this organization competitive, have the culture right, start building it the right way so that when we get the players we want and need, when we get the quarterback in here that we want and need that can keep up hopefully with Mahomes and Herbert and Bo Nix that Pete Carroll lift that program up and get it into a spot where whenever he decides he doesn't want to coach anymore they move up from him that he's passing off the baton and the team continues moving forward okay do we know who his coordinator is going and everything like that? Do we have any clue or any inkling on who could potentially be joining him out there in Las Vegas? Not yet. We'll see how that goes.
I don't know who his offensive coordinator is. That'll be a big hire.
And the quarterback issue will be a big decision that that team has to make between the input of Tom Brady and Pete Carroll. So we'll see.
Not going to be Liam Cohn. Okay, yeah, not going to be Liam Cohn.
He's not going to be at Tampa either. Sorry, Tampa.
Go Bolts down there, but go the hell out of here, Liam Cohn. I don't know if he's welcome back in Tampa ever.
Beautiful city. Jacksonville will certainly love him if he wins.
Two more jobs open.

Conman has a question for you.

Yeah, Shefty, who's left for the Saints?

Is Big Mike McCarthy still probably one of the guys that's going to get tagged down there as the head coach?

Or is there another coordinator, maybe like a Brian Flores or something along those lines

who's kind of been forgotten about in this process that might get hired?

Well, I think today they have Anthony Weaver in. And tomorrow they have Mike Kafka, the Giants offensive coordinator in.
And then next week, I think you have to see how these playoff games play out this weekend. Cliff Kingsbury, the Commanders, OC, Kellen Moore, the Eagles, OC, Joe Brady, the Bills, OC, all have been linked to them.
I don't even remember which one's virtually interviewed with the Saints to begin with. They're all in play.
And Mike McCarthy's in play. So, you know, you're looking for an answer.
And there's a lot of different guys in that mix right now. I think Mike McCarthy makes a lot of sense there.
He's got deep ties and connections to the organization. We'll see ultimately if he's the guy.
But I think there are some other guys that are interesting to this organization. and I don't think they're there just yet.
Mike McCarthy has deep ties to the Saints? Well, he he's worked and known some of those guys. I think he worked in New Orleans.
I'm pretty sure he worked in New Orleans and knows some of the people there. Okay, nice.
Mike McCarthy's the ender. He's beloved everywhere.
We understand. Is he potentially going back to Dallas? They don't have a job either.
You mentioned Kelly Moe. Ty, I have a question for you.
Yeah, Shefty, reports now have been really heating up that, hey, Brian Schottenheimer's kind of going to be the next guy. They're just kind of waiting to maybe finalize it.
Is there any movement on that, or is that a bunch of BS? And is a guy like Kelly Moe still potentially going to be the Cowboys head coach? You know, it's hard to tell because I think one guy determines that.

And one guy can change his mind at any moment.

And one guy can wake up today and say, you know what?

I know we've done a lot of work into Brian Schottenheimer,

but I feel like Deion Sanders or Jason Witten would be the best for this.

Like, again, I don't know what Jerry Jones is going to be feeling today.

I think they spent a lot of time on Brian Schottenheimer I think that makes a lot of sense on a lot of levels but ultimately one guy is going to make this decision until he makes the decision we don't know exactly what direction this is going to go so it's hard to pin it on somebody until they're moving forward with that decision and as of last night they hadn't moved forward on any decision, to my knowledge. Okay, so is this going to end today, you think? Coaching cycle.
No. The Saints will go into next week because they're going to wait for the games.
The Cowboys could end today, could end next week. We don't know when Jerry's going to decide to make a decision.
That could be any time. So you got those two.
We need a GM in New York. I know there are reports that Darren Mugey is in line.
But, again, the Jets are just asking. We haven't even offered.
We haven't made a decision. The Broncos said we're sitting with him here in Denver.
He hasn't received an offer yet. So we'll see how that plays out.
It wouldn't surprise me if he winds up being the guy. We're waiting to see who Jacksonville hires as a general manager still.
So what are we missing? We're missing a Jets GM. We're missing a Jaguars GM.
And we're missing two head coaches in New Orleans and Dallas. Correct? I think that's it.
Am I missing anybody right now? That's how we feel as well. That's how we're seeing the entire thing.
This is Shefty season too, right? I mean, you've been on it the entire time here. This is a busy time for you? You know what, Pat? It's funny.
I had somebody call me this morning. They're like, where does this rank in terms of busy times of the year? And I really think that when it comes to the NFL, everything when it's happening is the busiest time of the year.
The trade deadline as it happening, is the busiest time of the year. The trade deadline, as it's unfolding, is the busiest time of the year.
The head coaching, hiring, and firing, when that happens, that's the busiest time of the year. When free agency happens, that's the busiest time.
When the draft happens, that's the busiest time. When training camp opens, that's the busiest time.
When the season gets underway, that's the busiest time. They're all all busy because people love football what the greatest

reality show going what there are storylines like liam conan p carroll that you never could predict in a million years and so people love these storylines they love their teams great passion for the sport and and so it's it's always busy and it's going to keep staying busy what's the What's the most important game, Schefter?

Most important game?

Yeah.

Well, they're both important. Why is one more this weekend? The next one.
Okay. That's a mindset that players have.
It seems like that's a mindset that you have as an insider as well. Everything's the most busy and the most important because we're in the middle of it right now.
Speaking of the two games, I know this is out of the coaching world a little bit. Connor has a question for you.
Yeah, Shafty, injury-wise, what are the Eagles working with? Because I saw something about Juergens not being at practice, same with Goddard, and then Taylor Rapp out for the Bills. Are there any other injuries we should be looking at going into the weekend? Well, I think the big ones are obviously Jalen Hurts and Quingon Mitchell.
Both guys were listed in full on the injury report yesterday so they're playing and what I think the whole question is is Jalen Hurts 100 percent 90 percent 70 like what is he and I don't know that we're gonna know until we see him out there on Sunday. I think you know it's really significant the commanders lost their best offensive lineman Sam Cosme last to the 20th.
He lines up directly across from Jalen Carter. So that's a big challenge that they're going to have to overcome this week.
So no Taylor Rapp for the Bills. The Chiefs are healthy.
We'll see about Hurts and Mitchell. No Cosme.
What about Jerkins for Philly? This is just playoffs. Let's get him to the game.
I don't have an answer there. I've had a couple of people raise that to me, but I don't know specifically where that's at right now.
Raise that to you. That means he's potentially out or they're just asking? No, people ask me, what's the deal? And I'm like, I don't know.
I need to check into that. But I've been busy with Pete Carroll, Liam Cohn, and the other openings.
So I haven't had time to check on Cam Juergens. Alright, well we appreciate you doing your thing.
We'll continue to follow along with your Twitter account. Obviously, you're on top of it.
You're the man. We appreciate you, brother.
Guys, enjoy the games this weekend. We'll talk Monday.
Look forward to it. Thank you for having me today.
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See RemixYogurt.com. Tampa Bay Buccaneers are irate.

Uh-oh.

Never seen that.

We talked to our source.

Ciz.

That said when somebody withdraws their name from a head coaching role,

ownership giving a raise, very standard operating procedure.

So I think Schefter maybe misheard what I said because he wanted to get to the point that Tampa's pissed

about how this whole thing works.

Because if they're raising you, giving you a raise of double and a half, whatever it is, that's so you don't have to worry about this anymore. And then you say, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cool, cool, cool. Hey, is that $13 million still available after you fired that GM that I fucking hated? Yeah.
Cool. Deal.
Sorry about Tampa. I'm moving north in this particular state that we're in to Jacksonville.
And it's like, sucks that that happens. But also, Liam Cohen can't turn down a head coaching job.
So, Robert Sala was allegedly on his way down there to interview. We all assume now he's going to be a San Francisco 49er defense coordinator, which was kind of the thought immediately upon him leaving the jets he goes over the green bay packers he's friends with the floor he was in his wedding he's consulting he's advising with the way the niners season went we all assumed he potentially gets back into the dc job because he's owed guaranteed money from the new york jets to be the head coach mike silver says i fully expect him to be the 49ers DC.
I think that was kind of something anybody could have fully expected because that's where he got famous from. That's why he became the head coach of the Jets.
They're missing that particular piece, but he was allegedly going to interview for the Jags job. He turned a plane around allegedly and left.
Liam Cohn gets a gig. Fascinating development down there in Jacksonville.
Yeah. And I think a report I read part of the secrecy too, was that they had Patrick Graham in for an interview, and he was the second Rooney Rule guy that they had in person, so they didn't want it to leak out, hey Cohen's the guy we want, because they didn't want him to get spooked by that and leave.
And then there's all the, you know, hey the Rays is contingent upon you not taking the second in-person interview.

And then I think it was a Jags staffer that tipped off someone in the Bucs building.

Hey, Liam Cohen's in the building right now.

So it is kind of crazy.

You've got to get that asshole out of the Jags building.

Yeah, exactly.

You need to get that out of the building.

First of all, obviously, shout out to the Bucs getting the information.

But if you're the Jags for Jaguars, that's your biggest problem right there. For sure.
So somebody in your building was like, hey, uh... Are you song? Are you song? He's here.
Why is anybody in your building talking about anything? Yeah. That's, you know, get to the bottom of it if you want.
Chief football strategist, Tony Khan, I assume we'll get to the bottom of that down there. Liam Cohen, does he know what he's signing up for down there in Jacksonville? I think that's a big question.
Ben Johnson setting the bar $13 million per for new head coaches liam cohen seeing that getting that obviously awesome we still don't know what kevin o'connell got but we assume it is gigantic pete carroll's number is going to be big there's no salary cap on coaches contracts you can spend whatever these guys are making a pretty penny all fully guaranteed as well con man well and that's right if you're tampa it's like come on like i think think about McDaniels, where McDaniels turned the plane around when he was going to be the coach, the head coach at Indy. But he already had, you know, a head coaching gig in Denver.
It's like, Liam Cohen's never been a head coach. Like, how often is this going to happen? Especially when you look at the season.
Like, are they going to be great every single year? Yeah, but he lied. Yeah, I understand that.
And maybe that's part of it, but I mean, that's business, baby. He lied.
Sorry. Same with Ben Johnson.
He's never been a head coach, too. Yes, I know.
I get it. Everyone's pissed that he went into the division, but if he felt that was the best fit for him, that was the best fit for him.
He earned that. Detroit Lions fans kind of got off the hook because of how mad damn big Buccaneers fans were.
And then Liam Chen's wife coming out and being like our son is battling an autoimmune disease we're in the hospital

throughout a lot of this so maybe there's some miscommunication as well you know maybe our side

hasn't been told everybody's a fool oh we hope the kids okay and congrats on 60 million dollars

okay instead of the 15 million whatever it was supposed to be but nonetheless no matter how

pissed off tamp is they have to find a new offense coordinator that's back-to-back years they've had

to do that because baker mayfield so damn good let's talk about a situation that wasn't great

Thank you. and whatever it was supposed to be.
But nonetheless, no matter how pissed off Tampa is, they have to find a new offensive coordinator. That's back-to-back years they've had to do that because Baker Mayfield, so damn good.

Let's talk about a situation that wasn't great,

the end of the Baltimore Ravens season.

Now, with a minute 33 left in the game,

Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens went for two

to tie it up against the Buffalo Bills.

Buffalo Bills still had a couple timeouts.

Josh Allen's still playing like Josh Allen.

But to tie the game, Lamar Jackson tried to throw a little out to Mark Andrews. He drops it.
A little behind, whatever the case. The world started burying Mark Andrews, obviously, immediately.
Mark Andrews, if he continues to go in the path that he's going, he's going to have to win a Super Bowl, obviously. A potential Hall of Fame tight end.
What him and Lamar Jackson have done, absolutely impeccable. He's a captain of that Baltimore Ravens team.
He had a touchdown in like six or seven straight games for the Baltimore Ravens. One of their pillars, one of their great players, has this drop.
Obviously, Lamar says he should have thrown it better. It's on all of us.
But the big story is there's a minute 33 left, you know. Is Josh Allen going to go down the field and kick a field goal? Probably.
I like to think probably. But maybe Lamar gets a chance to answer again.
Anyways, Mark Andrewrew didn't talk to the media afterwards didn't talk to the media on clean out locker day in baltimore instead he waited for a post on instagram that he put out it's impossible to adequately express how i feel i'm absolutely gutted by what happened on sunday i'm devastated for my teammates my coaches and ravens fans i pour every ounce of my being into playing at the highest level possible because I love my team and the game of football like nothing else. That is why it has taken me until now to collect my thoughts and address this publicly.
Even though the shock and disappointment are unlike anything I felt before, I refuse to let this situation define me. I promise that this adversity will only make me stronger and fuel us as we move forward.

I think everyone who has shown me

and our team genuine support

these past several days,

despite the negativity,

which there is a lot,

I've seen heartfelt love

and encouragement,

including from those

who have generously donated

to Breakthrough T1D organization,

which is a type 1 diabetes foundation

that I believe we donated to as well

because he scored a touchdown

in five straight games,

even when the moment seems darkest

Thank you. a type 1 diabetes foundation that I believe we donated to as well because he scored a touchdown in five straight games.
Even when the moment seems darkest, perspective can reveal that there's still a lot of light in this world. I'm now going to do my part to bounce back and contribute to it.
That was great to read. I'm happy for you, Mark.
You don't have to answer anybody. He felt terrible about that.
I mean, that ball not secured is very abnormal for Mark Andrews football. I appreciate him addressing it.
There was a lot of media people going, he needs to talk to us. Don't he need an answer? Don't me.
And he's answered to me for what this is. I think there are some rules for players having to speak to media, so I assume there will be some sort of fallout from that entire thing.
Him doing it this way, collecting his thoughts, not saying anything too stupid immediately after a game, I think is good. But obviously, there's people that think it's terrible.
Yeah, and Cam Newton said it best yesterday. It's not as if just athletes should be held to the standard every one show.
But, I mean, it sucks. And I think that message is awesome, too, just because it shows how, hey, you guys feel bad.
You have no idea how pissed off I am about this. Of course, I wanted to the damn ball i just it just didn't happen and also a minute 30 left two timeouts for the buffalo bills at home yeah just acting like that one was over exact acting as if that's going to overtime yeah like no matter what because he dropped that like i think we all agree the bills are still winning that game in regulation like it's not as if that's how we feel but obviously football could be different and i assume the baltimore ravens defense would say well where's a chance we get a three and out sure and we get the ball back and we actually go win that thing nonetheless it ends up not working out i agree with you though i think josh allen goes down tyler bass probably kicks one through they win it that's not how ravens fans feel ravens fans also understand how important mark andrews has been to that team i think it's more so people that are like kind of at a 30,000 foot view that were trying to kill him and wanted to hear from him.

Yeah, I'm sure there is, you know, some Ravens fans

because there's fans like that in every single fan base,

you know, the lunatic fringe, if you will.

Shout out Kirk.

Shout out Kirk.

But, you know, hopefully the majority of them do,

because, I mean, he's their all-time leading touchdown scorer

in the history of the franchise.

Like Mark Andrews is an incredible player. Obviously, he wanted to catch that football.
Obviously, he didn't want to fumble that ball earlier in the game. But we say this all the time.
Yes, those plays stand out, but those were not the only plays that the Ravens didn't make or didn't make a mistake on in that game. So, yeah, I feel bad for Mark Andrews.
I'm sure he feels a lot worse than anyone else could feel at him. It's going to be a great offseason

for Mark Andrews. Obviously,

anytime that's the final taste in your mouth going

into an offseason, it's going to be a little bit more motivating.

Not that he hasn't been a pro his entire career.

He has. That Baltimore Ravens team is going to continue

to get hungrier. A lot of people watch this.

A lot of people watch this.

Numbers are out.

42.2 million

average viewers for Ravens bills. The battle of Lamar and Josh Allen.
Inevitably, the Bills win by two. And then the national championship, Ohio State-Notre Dame, averaged 22.1 with a peak at 26.1 million viewers.
Obviously, congratulations to football. Dominating.
Let's go. Dominating.
whenever it comes to linear television and tv as a whole football is really the only thing that's driving any numbers for linear television and everything like that there's entire businesses trying to be built to get to that someday the nfl is here and only climbing college ball though down they said from last year to this year is it college football fatigue was it it was Inauguration Day. There was a lot going on on Monday, Martin Luther King Jr.
Day. It was a longer season this year.
What do you think it is? Or are we just in a new world where maybe not as many people are watching TV and they're getting it from other places, Todd? I think that's certainly a part of it. There are just so many options.
And I think fatigue is definitely a part of it. I mean, we talked about talked about it like that is such a long season it is and even though those games like each one that we you know went week after week and was like wow this is an incredible matchup like it does wear on you a little bit especially when it's sandwiched in between you know or around playoff football but also like ESPN's cable you know it's it's not it's not basic now granted The NFL is, regardless of what it's on, it's going to draw numbers like that because it's king.
But if the national championship was on CBS or NBC or something like that, I'm sure the numbers would have been absolutely astronomical. But it's on cable.
Not everyone has cable.

You have to, you know, you have to go find it if you're not already watching it.

But, I mean, I don't think they have anything to be worried about.

I think they look at it as a whole and it's like, hey, this still crushed.

22.1 million average viewers is a huge number.

Largest non-NFL event for ESPN of the year.

There's been some breaking news from the college football playoff. The 2027 National Championship will be in Las Vegas.
Oh, wow. Congratulations to Las Vegas getting the college football national championship.
Next year, it's in Miami down at the Orange Bowl. The following year, it'll be in Las Vegas.
I'm excited to see how it all works out and continues. Will they change the schedule and the calendar so it doesn't draw out as long? You know, 12-team playoff, more schools get a shot to shine.
Starting at 12, counting down to one. That's how they crown a CFP.
National champion. But it did kind of linger seemingly.
Much longer than anybody could have imagined. This one is on Monday, January 25th, 2027.
Excited to see how they can bat that going forward. I just looked up to Ty's point because I was wondering.
Beginning in 2027, ABC will simulcast the college football playoff national championship with ESPN. We assume it'll be gigantic, you know, because obviously that game's on CBS, which if you have bunny ears, you can see it.
And also, I don't want to say this yet again, but these numbers. Sure.
Black boxes. Some people have them.
Some people don't. Math equation.
There's 11 different ways to watch. We said on Monday.
Yeah. So how are they tracking everything? You know? Cable, YouTube TV, Hulu.
How do they track everything? Your phone. I don't know how.
Fubo. I have YouTube TV and Hulu.
I'm about sick of hulu not letting me log in this is your home base you can only move your home base four times well what the fuck do i got a streaming platform for if i can't log in it's the whole point isn't that what i'm doing i'm trying to cut the cable so i can log in well you've changed four times it's like no shit i'm on move youtube tv just kind of lets me do whatever they do that's why i. That's why I got this thing.
The goat? Yeah, and I know Hulu is a Disney entity or whatever, and it's like, you guys need to figure it out because Google's just smacking you around whenever it comes to YouTube TV. If I have to see my Hulu tell me I can't log in again while it's still charging me, I'm about done with it.
I'm about over it. I thought that's what we were trying to do with this.
But how does Nielsen monitor Google, Hulu, linear? How does it? I don't know. There's no way.
Once again, this is us understanding that we benefit from these things. Because now that we are on, our show is licensed through ESPN.
There is a ratings release and yada, yada, yada and everything. But even when those come out, it's like, how do they know? How do they have any idea who's watching what? Especially with us being actually on YouTube, TikTok Live.
TikTok Live is going through the roof. Yeah.
We need to talk to Mr. Nielsen.
Ed? Is he still alive? Liam? Leslie? Liam Nielsen. Is he the one counting them? He might be.
Is it Liam? Liam Nielsen alive. Leslie Nielsen very much dead.
Oh, Leslie Nielsen is, you got to be like a little person at a urinal, always on your toes. Bingham.
Yes. Right? Naked gun, yeah.
That's Leslie Nielsen? Yeah. Yeah, always on your toes.
That's what you got to do. Legit.
Yeah. Some of those urinals are so low, though.
Tiny. And they're like half buckets.
The old school, our school ones that just went straight to the floor. Love those.
I don't mind that either, but the ones that are cut off down there at my shins, it's like, that's definitely going to bounce on my pants. It's almost meant for you to piss all over yourself.
Yeah. I feel like we could have done better with that whenever we created those.
Somebody that created the urinal was like a genius, right? Yeah. Check it out.
I was like, yeah. Less water.
Didn't change it forever. It's like, I don't know if that's the right answer.
I like the floor ones. I like the ones that go all the way to the floor.
I don't mind it. I don't mind ice in there either.
Have you ever seen ice ones? Sure. I don't mind ice.
Great. Ice is great.
Great. Troughs.
I'm not a big trough guy. I'm not a big trough guy.
I like the trough. We're about to blow back.
Yeah, but in the modern world that I'm currently in, trough is my biggest nightmare. Absolutely.
Yeah, the amount of selfie videos that I walk in. But if just in your home, if you wanted one in your home, you could have one in your home.
Remember that guy at a troth in the house? I don't know, boys. I don't know.
I think there's some drawbacks to troth. I mean, commercial, obviously, you've got to go to the stadium and do that.
Remember the guy in Cleveland did the whole Oh, yeah, he slid in it. That just got disgusting.
Yeah, that's bad. Notre Dame, Ohio State, 22.1 million average viewers, says Nielsen.
Who knows what that means? There's some stories coming out of that game. For instance, I mentioned it a few different times.
Jeremiah Smith is going to get a massive offer immediately after this season's over. That's what the NIL is.
That actually led to Coach Saban saying, to your point about that, we need some sort of, you know. We shouldn't be saying that Jeremiah Smith might be gone from Ohio State immediately after this national championship because the way the world is, it's like, well, there is a chance.
And allegedly, Jeremiah Smith has been offered $4.5 million. Carnell Tate, the other wide receiver alongside Ibuka and J.J.
Smith, a million-plus offer in the transfer portal.

We don't know what's real and what isn't real in these reportings.

Remember, North Carolina allegedly offered Quinn Ewers $8 million or something.

Michael Lombardi said, that didn't come from me.

I don't know who that – we like Quinn Ewers,

but we're not spending $8 million on a quarterback,

especially if he's never done anything here.

There is every team in college ball that would try to get Jeremiah Smith on their team.

So I assume Ohio State's going to have to deal with that. And will they just have to up their roster, up their salary cap? And is Jeremiah Smith the guy that says, I don't even want to hear it.
I'm cool with what I'm doing right here. I know I'm on a trajectory to get to the NFL.
Luckily, Ohio State feels like that's not a place that wide receivers normally leave. Heartline.
Heartline, with Ryan Day, with Chip Kelly now well uh jeremiah smith performed in that offense just as a freshman you would hope that he would realize that and not and not be you know antagonized away um you know carnell tate i have seen a bunch of stuff about you know if he will or not but also being the number two to uh jeremiah smith in ohio state offense just like a mecca buka was to um jeremiah smith and then marvin williams j Jr. last year.
That's not a bad spot either. You would hope these guys realize this, but no.
Saban said, this sucks. That is a thing that Ohio State, I mean, I guess they earned it, but Ohio State should have the money to keep their guys.
Yeah, and we talked about them having the money at the beginning of the season. They're not the only ones.
There's a lot of teams that have a lot of money, and all all you need is one donor one booster to be like i want jeremiah smith on our team how much money are you willing to pay 10 million i don't know what do you what do we need to get him here because he's a game changer and by the way he is and i hope you get all the money you deserve jeremiah because of how great you are how humble you are your work ethic and what you do on a football field he changes the math we were on the field watching it even Even against Texas, he did not play great, right? Did not play great. Didn't have a bunch of production.
He had one catch for three receptions. Well, he had a safety, linebacker, and a corner over top of him.
That opens up everything else from maybe Judkins, Henderson, Tate, and Abuka to your point in there. He's a game changer.
He's a math changer. And Chip Kelly was just starting to cook with him with one year.
Hopefully it all gets figured out. Notre Dame now, they also have some stuff going on.
Center for Notre Dame. Pat Coogan, the one who gives the pregame speech.
And at the end he goes, for God, for country, and for Notre Dame football. Every single week was their leader.
He's entered a transfer portal alongside Rocco Spindler. These are two key pieces, obviously, to that that Notre Dame offensive line which was able to get them all the way to the national championship I guess they weren't the starters going into the year though Tony? Yeah so when I saw the news I was like that feels weird because not only won it feels like a team that just got to the national championship you would think guys wouldn't want to be leaving there and then on top of that you know Ohio State got to the national championship and they get 20 million dollars that 20 million dollars goes to the Big Ten.
Notre Dame doesn't have a conference so they just got 20 million dollars so I'm like they don't they're not going to have a problem paying their players like they can't be that's why so I looked it up they were not starters to begin the season they became starters because of injuries um they're both graduates uh and if the starters that were supposed to start at the beginning of the season, I believe, are back. So it was kind of a situation where were they going to be starters still? So I thought it might be something, but the more you look into it, and they have a two five-star freshmen coming in, so it might just be like a numbers game situation.
Hey, Pat, you're a dog. Yes.
You're a leader. I'm excited to see where you end up at.
Come get a hard edge.

I wish we were going to do it.

We would love you over there.

We would love him over there.

I assume he's going to end up going big.

I think Tennessee, was he the one?

One of their other ones.

But also, what we've been talking about with how long the season is,

granted, obviously this is having two starters.

Whether or not they were starters at the start of the year,

you need a bunch of depth on your offensive line. And that's kind of what killed them going down the stretch was they had to plug and play with just a bunch of these different combinations.
So that's going to be much harder going forward, obviously, when you've got these four- and five-star recruits who are kind of buried on the depth chart and they want to go somewhere and they want to play. but in today's college football, you almost need to be, if they're going to be playing 16 game seasons, you almost need to be three deep at every position on the offensive line.
Okay, Notre Dame's going to have to fill in another very vital role. Al Golden, defense coordinator, has finalized the deal to become the Bengals defense coordinator.
Wow. Lou Anarumo, Bengals defense coordinator for the past 10 years or whatever, is now with the Indianapolis Colts.
His DC, I liked his opening press conference, said I'm going to tell the truth to everybody around here. Every single day, got a lot of talent.
Hopefully he's able to do well. Al Golden, what he was able to do at Notre Dame this year, fantastic.
You know, this is a part of being great. You know, the Detroit Lions are kind of going through that right now.
Notre Dame's going through it. This is a part of it.
Whenever you win, there's enough to go around. It doesn't mean it's going to be with you, though, or with the team that you're currently on.
People are going to try to pluck greatness. Al Golden heading back to Cincinnati to be with the Bengals.
How do you feel about the move there, Boston Conner? I think it's awesome for Al Golden. You know, it's kind of sweet.
We saw with Jeff Halfley last year from going from BC to, you know, Green Bay and Granted, he was the head coach. But I don't think this affects Notre Dame as much as like the transfers just because Marcus Freeman is the defensive guy over there, right? He's kind of the one steering the ship.
I know he's not calling plays, but because he is a defensive guy, do you think that matters? Yeah, I saw a lot of, I saw a lot of people talking about the DB coach maybe for Notre Dame getting promoted to defenseators. So hopefully you're able to hire from within,

which is a massive deal in the NFL.

It is going to be a big deal in college ball as we go forward.

You know, we talked about the Detroit Lions just a couple seconds ago,

you know, losing their coordinators.

First time ever anybody wants anybody from Detroit.

Detroit Lions fans weren't necessarily thrilled with the move.

Don't know how to deal with it.

Terryon Arnold actually almost just said, you know what?

He doesn't know how to deal with it either.

To hell with it. Good morning.
Let me check my phone you know what? He doesn't know how to deal with it either. To hell with it.

Good morning. Let me check my phone, see if anybody hit

me up and we're down.

Sliding

all the way down. Sits down.
Takes a

breather. Tough way

to start the day.

Everything's bad in Detroit right now, Evan.

What the hell's going on up there? Yeah, I don't like

this. I'm just happy that I didn't watch this

and we had a game on Sunday. Then I would have been really worried.
Imagine if he got hurt on there and we were in the NFC Championship. But, yeah, I'm hoping he's okay.
Well, how about him being so incredibly athletic that he saves himself, takes a good bump, done hit his head, and then just rides the wave and then gets to the bottom and goes, well, good morning to me, I guess. And then he posts it.
Tough, tough start to that day.

Think about us, too.

You know, we always, like, there's stories like this that come out.

If there wasn't video, we'd be like, yeah, sure, you fell down the steps.

Yeah.

How about him checking it back?

Is that camera?

It is.

Yep.

I'm telling you, I slid all the way down and just casually sat there.

And he's like, here's the film.

Puts it up there.

Shout out to Terryon Arnold.

He's part of a defense that's going to continue to get better, although they need a new D.C. up there, right?

Yes, sir, they do. We should add them

to the graphic, actually.

Detroit needs a new O.C. and a D.C.,

right? Yes, they do.

And the rumors that I've seen, your guy, Calvin

Shepard, they think that he can do it.

It's not Calvin Klein or

it's Calvin.

Why don't you have a little bit of respect

for this guy? What'd I say?

You called him Calvin Shepard. It's Calvin..
Or the Santa Claus. Why don't you have a little bit of respect for this guy? What'd I say? You called him Calvin Shepard.
Calvin Shepard. Scott Calvin Shepard.
It's Calvin. Yeah, it's not Santa Claus.
Calvin. Although he would be a great DC.
I think so. They should think about interviewing Scott Calvin.
From the area. Oho Zijo.
He is a Michigan man. Yeah, he is a Michigan man.
Loves building cars in his spare time. Maybe put him in there.
There is a recording coming out now of Ipe

Mitsuhara conning

a bank into giving him hundreds of thousands

of dollars as if he was Shohei

Otani. Shout out to the New York Times, The Athletic

for uncovering this.

Who am I speaking with?

Shohei Otani.

Thank you. How may I help you?

I tried to make a wire transfer

a couple days ago.

They told me that that's probably the

reason that they transferred me to

Thank you. How may I help you? I tried to make a wire transfer a couple days ago.
They told me that that's probably the reason that they transferred me to this number. Alrighty.
Now the number ending 0373, is that the best contact number for you? Yes. Okay.
So I'm going to send a one-time authorization code to your text messaging. Can you provide me with that six-digit code when it becomes available?

Yeah.

Okay.

What is the reason for this transaction?

For a car loan.

Okay.

You said it's for a car loan?

Yeah.

Okay. Okay.

What is your relationship to the payee?

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The Toxic Tables here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Con man, just a t-shirt today.
I see you back. Yeah, yeah.
I figured after yesterday, you know, it has warmed up a little bit. It's a nice 15 degrees here, and I still got the nice T-Moss beanie on to kind of keep me warm, but yeah, I figure, you know, I don't want to wear a jacket every day.
You're back to being a dog. Yeah, yeah, trying to.
Yeah, go back to your roots. Mm-hmm.
Ty Schmidt, you watching those Pacers playing Paris yesterday? Yeah, I did. Boy, I don't know if I'm going to be doing that again.
Well, they play tomorrow. Two o'clock.
Certainly will not be watching the one tomorrow. On ESPN, the Pacers will take on Wembe Nyama in the Spurs in Paris yet again.
They're in Paris. Our source says told us that Wembe got going yesterday and it became a little bit of a runaway.
What are you going to do? When you have all the party behind him and he starts doing his shit, Wemby is, he's the one. So cool.
He is must watch. He is the one.
He is taller than you. He's more athletic than you.
He has, and he can pull up from half court. I mean, and I guess once this all starts happening, all the party gets onto their feet.
The smells I heard. Oh.
Just so crazy. So bad.
In that arena, so loud. And it was one thing led to another.
And the Spurs put an absolute ass beating on the Indiana Pacers on NBA TV yesterday in Paris. They will continue their Paris series tomorrow as these two will face off once again.
And if you're the Pacers, you're just hoping not to turn on the light switch for Wemby early. Because if he gets rolling, I guess it's an unstoppable force.
Yeah, well, and then I hadn't even remembered it, but they also got Tony Parker over there with the Spurs right now, who is also a Patty legend. So, I mean, it makes sense.
You know, you got an 8-foot guy who can shoot, you know, 85-foot threes and like we showed yesterday, you know, can dunk without jumping. I mean, how are you going to defend that? How are you going to stop that? Yeah, how are the Spurs? Are they trash? No, they're a little above 500 now.
I think they're in the hunt a bit. But to your point about the smells, I'm sure it's impossible to play over there when it smells so bad.
I mean, it must be one of those situations where you're running around and it's just, hey, where's my dove? Where's my dove Dio? If I don't have it, I'm going to start throwing up. That's the issue.
The Pacers were dribbling and just trying to spray Dove Mencare, whole body Dio. They got to get through that.
You got to battle through. Yeah, they are putting up shots while they're doing it.
Shoe them off. Have to.
Shoe them off. Wemby's used to it.
It's not fair. Dove should think about heading over to Paris and being like, hey, got something for you guys.
Game changer. Yeah.

You don't have to do what you do with your noses every time you see each other or you look up at each other. Everybody says

the French are maybe looking down on you. It's not.

They're just going all the time.

Do they have soap over there? No, it'd be like fire

for Neanderthals if you brought some Dove over

there. Look at this.
Oh, it just

hit my nose, nostrils. That smells so good.

That's Dove Mencare, old body

D.O., bro. That's one half of the hammer.
Damn. Cowboys AP tone.
You bet on the Pacers tomorrow? No. Joining us now, live from an adequate.
Me neither, brother. What? Me neither.
I don't bet on the NBA until playoffs. June.
Yeah, but we're going to watch the NBA, remember, because football is over soon. And we like Tyrese and the Pacers.
For sure. And we like Zion.
Technically, football is over. We like the Celtics.
Draft, free agency. It carries us.
We like Missoula. We like the Celtics.
I could do without them. Well, guess what? They ain't going nowhere.
I could do without them. That's too bad.
I'm okay without them. They're probably going to end up winning it again.
Did LeBron beat their ass? Wait, hold on. Is Steven still running that place up there? Oh, yeah.
Oh, I love the Celtics. Yeah, Brad Stevens is over here.
Okay, I love the Celtics. Yeah, West Virginia guy, Indiana guy.
Bingo. Yeah, I love the Celtics.
Thank you. Love the Celtics.
Love the Pacers. Love that Zion is doing his thing.
All right, let's not put too many eggs in that basket. He's healthy.
Sean was talking to us yesterday. He's playing five-on-five basketball.
He's only eating egg whites now. We've been here before.
We don't know if that's true. We have heard that the Pacers, though, will only eat egg whites.
Bingo. For every meal, they only eat egg whites.
I saw that on an Instagram post. Only the whites.
That is all they'll eat. We don't know if that's going to continue or not.
Maybe they'll change their ways depending upon how they win going throughout the year. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who has a tree on the Ohio State Buckeye University campus.
He's a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen, father of 10, A.J.
Hawker. Hawker, how you doing, bub? I'm doing great.
I don't know why the Pacers would only eat the egg whites. I like eating the whole egg.
I don't know about you. Yeah, well, I mean, I'm okay with it.
Yeah, I'm okay with it. Turns out the Pacers aren't, though.
I guess it's like a team thing. No way.
Anything other than. Team mandate? No.
Stick to the whites. I guess that's all they eat.
Nothing else? I don't know. It seems like from the photos we've seen, that is the case.
We have some breaking news. Zion out tonight.
Is that right? I would have never thought. Is he hurt or just rest? Couldn't see this coming.
I don't know. Conditioning is the reasoning I'm being told.
Conditioning? Come on. Okay.
Let the guy play. You know how you get your conditioning up? You play basketball.
Okay? You don't sit. Sit doesn't get your conditioning up.
I know. I've been doing it for 20 years.
I don't want to do this

again, but I once again blame

the Pelicans. I was going to say, why would you

put that out?

Guy's not in shape. You guys get it.
They never let

him play. Just let the guy play.
If he wants to play,

let him go out there. And if he's going to be

on the

let us see it. Because instead

it's always like the Pelicans are holding him back. The Pelicans

are holding him back. The Pelicans don't know if he's in shape enough to play.
He's going to injure himself even more. It's like, does Zion want to play? Let him play.
Because whenever we're seeing him on the court right now, he's fucking all over the place. He's all over the place.
Give him an oxygen tank. Pretend like they're playing on top of Mount Everest every game.
Yeah. And just, hey, we need 10 oxygen tanks out here.
And we might go through all 10 of them tonight, but that's what Zion needs to play. Give him an ice bath in between the quarters.
Get the guy on the court. He's blockbuster.
And you know how they say the NBA's numbers are what they are. Once again, we talked about the Nielsen ratings.
How? How do they know? I don't know how they know. They know.
They do. I'm about done with Hulu.
I don't know who they is. But yeah, you're right.
I can't log in to anything. Things get bundled.
I can't log in anywhere anymore. Yeah, Hulu is a real fucking piece of shit.
I am so mad. I'm like, what am I paying? I'm paying to stream.
Yes. So if I'm in a hotel room that has a TV, a smart TV, but it's not connected to anything or an Airbnb Airbnb, or a bus, or something, I'm like, yep, that's why I got the streaming service, is so that I can watch her.
You've changed your home four times. It's like, so I'm only allowed to stream four times? What am I paying you for? Then you go over to your friend YouTube TV, and it's like, you got it, pal.
He's got to click on here temporarily. Exactly.
But it will waste your... That's a lot of time.
That's 10, 15 minutes doing the whole song and dance oh yeah that's a whole hulu stinks brother we tried we told you before hey youtube tv is gonna change your life and i'm glad it has but it kind of outshines everything else so much yeah and it's not bad i also see the list you know because every time i was on youtube tv i can never get to the list i need. The guide.
I like scrolling through a guide to kind of see what's going on.

Because maybe something that I didn't know was on is going to pique my interest.

And I'll do it.

That's why I like linear television.

I'm an old man at heart, I believe.

Especially when it comes to watching TV.

So then whenever I go over to YouTube TV, I don't see that.

It's like, oh, you got to go back.

You got to go home.

Then you got to go down.

It's down there.

It's like, it is very nice.

Then obviously the four bucks.

Beautiful.

Come on.

Beautiful in there.

You know, the Paris basketball games, the Pacers got their asses beat by Wemby. They'll win tomorrow, though, H.
They'll win. Yeah, I bet on them.
I bet on the Pacers tomorrow. Me, too.
Really? Wemby can't do it twice, right? He can't do it twice in a row. Not in Paris.
Not in Paris. What do you guys want to bet? What's that? He's not going to do it for like 48, 15, and 10.
I'm going to bet on a betting site.

I'm not going to bet you.

Oh, okay.

I was in.

What's the spread?

I don't know.

Two, maybe?

How many points are you giving me?

I'm giving you none.

I think this is just a straight up.

Pacers are one and a half point favorites.

They were one and a half point favorites yesterday, though, too, I believe.

Give me a spurt of shit.

Kidding me?

What's that?

Yeah.

Pacers are favorites?

They just got beat by 35 yesterday.

Okay.

Tomorrow at noon.

Pacers are a gritty bunch, though.

They are.

They are.

And I don't want to get into the history of France.

Okay?

Well, yeah.

I don't want to get into that because Wemby wasn't there at that time.

I think it would have been a little different if Wemby would have been there and others.

You know what I'm talking about.

I turned around.

I'm talking about the greatest generation.

You know what we're talking about here. The Pacers are going over there and representing.
They've got Olympic gold medalists leading this team. Tyrese Halliburton.
One and a half point favorites. So are we doing it? Pelicans are 12 and 32.
We don't have time for Zion to be sitting. They're 12 and 32.
Secondly, where are we going to be next week? I think we should all have a sit down with them. The Pelicans? No, just saying.
I don't think he's going to listen. I don't think the Pelicans are going to listen either.
How much Starry can you bring with you? I said the collective week. Drink Starry anymore.
Pass that. Starry zero.
I wasn't going to say much. I'm more best in my pocket.
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Mm-hmm. For what? What? When we do the sit down, I wouldn't be doing any of the talking.
I'd be doing a lot of mm-hmm. Yeah.
Okay, so you took a turn about what you would like to contribute. Well, AJ said, what are you going to say to him? Okay, got it.
Okay, I appreciate it. I figured Pat would be doing most of the talking.
No, no. Age would do most of the talking.
Yeah, he's a fitness guru. Yeah, give me some unsolicited advice.
I'm a big fan of that, so I definitely want to be doling that out to Zion to zion no it's not unsolicited he'd be sitting down with us to get advice it wouldn't be he would be soliciting he didn't let me know if he reaches out to us as a collective and wants us to give him advice then i might participate all right phone's open dms are open zion uses them yeah we'll just wait we'll just wait for him to dm us speaking of that we had a uh a cake show up Is that a cake or what was it? I think it was cake. Yeah.
Had a local online baker just show up outside the gate, just sit there. I got his cake for you, which we're appreciative of.
Awesome. I don't know if it's going to be great.
We haven't got to taste it yet. But those are the things that Zion needs to stay away from.
And he needs to be traded to the Indiana Patriots. What is the Patriots record? They're 12-32 down there in New Orleans.
Pelicans are. Let me look.
Patriots, I think, are fifth in the East. They're playing well.
All right. 24-20.
Let's talk football. AJ, you guys over there in Columbus have a little bit of an issue, bub.
Jeremiah Smith getting offered big money. Carnell Tate getting offered big money.
Noel is your defense coordinator. We talked about it during the break.
We didn't talk about it whenever it was announced. Now Al Golden is going back to the Cincinnati Bengals and leaving Notre Dame.
He's allegedly potentially going to go back to Oklahoma. That has a defense coordinator position open because that's where his family's from.
That's where his wife's family's from. How do you feel about the Ohio State Buckeyes, and how quickly do they have to focus on next year's roster? And is that already happening over there? I am sure it has already happened.
I'm sure it was already thought about before they even won the national championship. Like, hey, if things work out the way we want to, like people will absolutely try to come pluck some of our talent.
So yeah, I mean, you're a product of your own success, I guess. And that's the, you know, modern day college football, at least right now, you got to recruit your own roster.
And it's crazy to think, yeah, a guy can be there one year, another team can entice him with a crazy amount of money, and they can just take off, and your best player can all of a sudden transfer. That could happen, but I don't see it happening in this case with Jeremiah Smith and Tate and everyone, but, yeah, it's a real thing.
I don't know what coaches are supposed to do. Hashtag journalism.
I mentioned this a couple weeks ago about being a possibility because it's the reality of current college ball. Jeremiah, we don't have $4.5 million half million for it west gene but we got good we got good facility you know one there your cousin obviously can uphold the the incredible tradition of smith uh family members dominating in morgantown but there's schools that have a lot i mean there's billionaires back in a lot of places could you imagine michigan oh my you know the.
The world would explode. Larry Ellison, who we know, he's chatty.
Yeah, he's bringing it. He's doing a lot of chatting about things right now.
Worth $200 billion. He allegedly, the reason why quarterback one goes up to Michigan, he gets together, puts the money out there.
Could you imagine Michigan offers Jeremiah Smith $5 million a year, $10 million a year, just because? Just because? I mean, why wouldn't they? If they had it, why wouldn't you at least offer it and see, you know, take a shot? That's the current world we live in. Not just Jeremiah Smith of Ohio State.
That's everywhere at college ball. And now does that change when we go forward? We hope there's some sort of regulations, but this is reality of the situation.
Well, that's what's crazy about Jeremiah is that when, like, Quinn Ewers, $8 million came out, it was like, okay, no way. He's getting $8 million to go up go up there for a year like with jeremiah it's almost as if four and a half isn't enough because of how damn good he is now i'm not saying that's like a not a lot of money it's a shit ton of money especially for two years of football but he's that good where if if it came out like a school offered him eight million dollars to go play it wouldn't be that surprising because of what a stud he is and And then he could be a free agent again after next season? Yeah, I think so.
Is that how this works? I think so. Can you transfer as much as you want now, or did they change that? I don't know, because it used to be you couldn't transfer until you're a graduate, and if you did transfer, you had to sit out a year, and then it became no rules because you're holding back people's money that they can make, which I think goes into an employment violation, so you can't hold them back every year.
So I think you can't – I think it's free agency every year. I think.
Essentially, as long as you meet academic requirements, you can – Great for players in business. I think how hard it would be if you're a coach like at a – I don't know, like a mid-major or say you're like middle of the pack in whatever conference you're in and you have a young quarterback comes in and he plays like out of his does much better than you expected that dude is gone for sure like you how do you keep guys around yeah well it's potentially going to happen to the sec not all of the sec but there's a chance the sec starts feeding these northern schools that have a lot of cake our source says state that there are some people around the SEC

that are very worried about the amount of money that Northern schools have.

Like Penn State has been dropped into the very, very prominent role

in this entire college football world and other sports world

because of how much money their alumni have.

A lot of rich alumni.

So that's a massive ordeal now.

I'm not saying that there's SEC schools that don't have that.

I'm just saying there's a lot of opportunity for these schools

We'll see you next time. a lot of rich alumni so that's a massive ordeal now not saying that there's sec schools that don't have that i'm just saying there's a lot of opportunity for these schools a lot of them from the north that have a lot of money in their alumni and if you could drum that up all of a sudden you could start it's wild it's wild to think about but it's if you look at the college football playoffs you look at the teams indiana kurt signetti was able to drum up a lot of money he was able to flip over his roster smu makes it to the college football playoffs, you look at the teams, Indiana, Kurt Signetti was able to drum up a lot of money.
He was able to flip over his roster. SMU makes it to the college football playoff.
They're in northern Dallas. They got a lot of money out of SMU alumni.
Texas, obviously, in the SEC, they got a lot of money out of their alumni. But you start looking at all these other schools, it's like Penn State, shit ton of money.
Notre Dame, shit ton of money. Ohio State, shit ton of money.
Oregon, shit ton of money.

It's like some of these schools have a lot of money.

There's going to be the haves and the have-nots if it continues to go this way,

and the haves are going to prosper

throughout this entire process,

which is why you're hearing a call from everybody.

It's like, we need at least some guardrails on this thing.

Yeah, and I think that was everyone's fear.

It's like, hey, the 12-team playoff is great,

but before too long,

we're going to be getting the same 12 teams in this every year

because there's that clear delineation

in the next video. on this thing.
Yeah, I think that was everyone's fear. It's like, hey, the 12-team playoff is great, but before too long, we're going to be getting the same 12 teams in this every year because there's that clear delineation.
Connor mentioned Jeff Halfley. That's why he left Boston College.
He basically said, hey, if we defy expectations and go 9-3 or whatever, and we have a couple unbelievable guys, guess what? Those guys are going to Michigan. Those guys are going to Ohio State.
We don't have the resources or the money to pay everyone from a good team. So it's almost like a lot of these kind of lower tier major conference teams, they have that one crack.
If you have a really good team, you better hope you go to the playoff and then by some way make it to a national championship because if you don't, your entire roster is going to get pushed at the end of the season. What did Coach Saban say whenever he gave a speech about regulations? He was like, you can't have one team have 30 mil and then another team have 3 mil, and they're supposed to be competing on the same field.
That's just not reality. Obviously, you're smiling because Ohio State can keep up with anybody, but you understand that there has to be some sort.
I think even Ohio State people, especially with this Jeremiah Smith situation, they're like, hey, we need some sort of guidelines. It never stops.
I guarantee you there's many, many at ohio state that are freaking out and losing sleep every night because you have to continue to bring in that money every year now it's so hard to keep these guys okay let's talk about the nfl shall we pete carroll is back aj with the las vegas raiders how do you feel about this hire by tom brady and mark davis over there in las vegas i love it i mean i see the all the the great clips of pete just throwing dimes everywhere and running up and down the field. It's great to see him.
And Shefty was like giddy with excitement when he was talking about when he got to experience a Pete Carroll team meeting. So yeah, that's what you're bringing in.
I think it's good. Obviously, it depends on what happens at the quarterback position and all that.
But I like that Tom has his hand in this and says he wants some experience. He wants some energy.
And Pete seems great guy I mean Pete in Vegas man I think I think this is a pretty good fit I think so too they don't have a quarterback and they're in a very difficult division so obviously two things working against you he and Jim Harbaugh played against each other in the Pac-10 Pac-12 they played against each other in the NFC West now they'll play against each other twice in the AFC West he and Harbaugh great great history, but this is a Mount Rushmore of coaches. Bill Belichick, obviously, who will be joining us in about 10 minutes or so, certainly earns his spot on all this, but the AFC West juggernaut coaching lineup, AJ.
I mean, just look at that. First off, yeah, it's also, as Pete Carroll, taking this gig with the Raiders to play in the AFC West, we know how brutal it is.
Patrick Mahomes is not slowing down anytime soon. But yeah, when you think about it, if we do this and compare other conferences, I wonder how they stack up compared to these guys.
Well, Shane Steichen, D'Amico Ryans, Liam Cohen, and Callahan, obviously, down in the AFC South, are a juggernaut. And the NFC East with Sirianni and Dan Quinn and no coach at Dallas and Day Bowl in New York, obviously something if you look around.
NFC North, I think you would say, quite a juggernaut. Kevin O'Connell just signed a blockbuster extension with the Minnesota Vikings.
Motor City, Dan Campbell has to find two coordinators. That's going to be no easy task.
Ben Johnson, which was the bell of the ball this coaching cycle. Obviously, he's a guy that has an opportunity to go on and be great, but if you look at the AFC West, that's four Hall of Famers.
Andy Reid, I don't know if he ever coached in college. Neither did Sean Payton.
I assume if they went to college, they'd have a success there as well. So, congrats to the AFC West getting better, we think, with the Pete Carroll hiring, and congrats to the Raiders getting better.
Liam Cohen now is the head coach for the Jacksonville Jaguars. AJ, chaos around this entire story.
I don't know if you've been keeping up. I have.
And so when Shefty was taken aback and said he's never seen a franchise respond as pissed off as the Tampa Bay Bucs were, so what exactly did Liam Cohen do that they are so pissed off about? So I think it is, and I don't think he heard me ask this question, his internet was freezing. Did you see that? Yeah, it was.
A lot of crap. A lot of in and out at his house right now.
Yeah, he was getting throttled a little bit. They don't want to see Shefty win.
This is the most busy time. But I think once we saw Liam Cohen reported that he pulled his name from the Jacksonville Jaguars, there's normally two different reasons why you do that.
One, you think somebody else is getting a job so you don't want to do the whole song and dance. Or two, your team has offered you a pay increase to remove your name from the conversation.
It was reported that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers gave him quite a pay raise to become the highest paid offensive coordinator or coordinator just in general in NFL history to remove his name from the conversation. Don't do the second in-person visit and then he is found in the Jacksonville Jaguars building doing the second in-person visit.
So I think the Tampa Bay Buccaneers team thinks that was shady business out of Liam Cohen. You lied to us.
You lied to us. Well, ShotKhan seemingly got his guy and he was trying to tell Cohen as such.

And was there a chance that Liam Cohen said,

I'm not coming to here, Bulky. Why the hell would I do that?

You fire Bulky, maybe I'll reconsider.

And then ShotKhan says, you got it.

I'll do that. And then Liam Cohen now

has to reconsider his entire situation.

It is such a good reality show down there.

Are they better now than they were

a week and a half, two weeks ago?

Is the only question for the Jacksonville Jaguars.

I mean, I guess. They know, they have a head coach now, but I think that you're putting a lot of, you know, faith in him because he's obviously going to be instrumental in picking the GM, right? And you've got a first-time head coach.
He only has five years of NFL coaching experience. He's been with McVay, and what he did turning around, the numbers of where Tampa Bay was last year compared to this year is obviously very impressive.
But, I mean, for a franchise who hasn't won in a long time and have been a shit show, I think there was a stat that said Sean Conn can win 86 games in a row and he'd still be under 500. That's putting a lot on a guy's plate who's never done anything before.
I think it was 83. Please have some respect, not 86.
There's some breaking news out of the AFC South. Liam Cohen, Bobby Sloick is no longer, sorry, Boobie Sloick Adam Schefter is reporting, is no longer the Texans offensive coordinator.
In the span of one year, Sloick went from being a hothead coaching candidate to now looking for work. There's multiple jobs.
There are multiple places that are looking for offensive coordinators. Can we put that graphic up, the places that are including the Detroit Lions? Detroit, yeah.
Who are certainly looking for an offensive coordinator. Las Vegas with Pete Carroll.
Chicago Bears have Ben Johnson. You assume he's going to call plays.
And then Seattle Seahawks, they lost Grubb, remember? We assume he's going to go down to Alabama to join Kalen DeBoer. They still have yet to hire an offense coordinator job.
And now the Houston Texans have been added to the graphic. Wow.
Bobby Slogan's going to get work quickly. Aside from this year with Jaden Daniels, what he and C.J.
Stroud were able to do last year without all the injuries that took place this year. Injuries everywhere throughout the Houston Texans offense, especially the key players that they brought in.
Stephon Diggs didn't finish the season, didn't play a lot of games. Nico Collins was hurt for a lot of games.
Offensive line had injuries down there. Bobby Sloak, obviously, in his second year with C.J.
Stroud, not as great as he was in the first year, but they get a playoff win, and now he's going to be heading to a place that's trying to build a brand-new culture. What a play for Boobie.
I feel like he's probably okay with this move. Now, anytime you have to move or you get released, that sucks.
He's going to find work quick, though. Yeah, I mean, he was the bell of the ball last year when Ben Johnson said he's coming back.
So we'll see. I don't know.
I mean, Detroit, I feel like, would be awesome for him. Like, you go to the number one offense in the entire NFL, and, of course, you are a guy that is coming off a year where you're supposed to be a hothead coaching commodity.
But to Tone's point earlier, too, if the Raiders are doing, like, a three-year, hey, let's turn this around and then hire a new guy after Pete Carroll,

like Sloak as the OC in Vegas would be the perfect kind of prince

who was promised over there, too, unless Carroll has his staff

kind of already playing.

Man, well, you saw his work with a rookie quarterback.

Now, who knows if that's the way the Raiders are going to go

or are they going to go with a veteran?

Who knows what decision Pete Carroll makes.

Russell Wilson's available.

You think they'd like to be reunited?

Yeah.

I don't know, Edge.

Do you think both sides are okay with that?

Yeah.

Russell Wilson sang his praises the other day.

He said, I've played for two great coaches, Mike Tomlin and Pete Carroll.

Yeah.

That's it.

I don't want to lose Russ, but it makes sense.

You said you want to Russ back the other day. You Even right after he was on the show? Yes.
Yeah. Even when he was on the show, I think you said.
Yeah, I did. You did.
And? I'm just saying, it makes sense in Oakland. It's Vegas.
You just want the best for Russ? Is that right? Yeah, I just want the best for Russ. We've been playing baseball in a long time.

Yeah, I mean, there's a chance Russell Wilson is back with the Steelers,

seemingly indicating no

the internet after Russell Wilson's

appearance on this show, which was

500x better than I thought

it was going to be.

Whenever we heard he was potentially

available for the program, my first thought was

like, oh, I don't know if we should do that. Obviously the whole let's ride thing, everything else.
I don't know if we should talk to Russell Wilson and obviously say yes. Cause it's Russell Wilson.
And then leading up to it, I'm like, it's going to go bad. It's going to go bad.
I know it's going to be bad. We'll put this right next to Jerry Rice's pitiful, terrible performance on the show.
I assume that's what this is going to be. Instead.
I came away thinking, you know, I love Russ. I appreciate Russ.
It feels like Russ is always Russ. Some people are going to hate that forever because he is Russell Wilson, and that type of mindset can obviously turn people off.
But he's going to have work. So is Boobie Sloic, AJ.
So is Boobie Sloic. Yeah, but think about it with Boobie Sloic.
He was, like we said, he was the absolute guy. He was one of the dudes that was getting a head coaching gig, so I just think it shows how quickly you can go

from that. Yes, of course.

There are multiple teams that want him as their coordinator,

but when you get a head coaching

opportunity, you've got to take it, I think.

And there's a head coaching opportunity in Texas

that maybe is still

available for Bobby Slog to go

interview. Schottenheimer,

who at one point when he was the Jets

offense coordinator with Rex Ryan and Mark Sanchez,

they were having success, had two head coaching

opportunities. Instead, whoever was the owner

I'm sorry. interview you know schottenheimer who at one point when he was the jets offense coordinator with rex ryan mark sanchez they were having success had like two head coaching opportunities instead whoever was the owner at the time was that woody i doubt it i don't i don't think so whoever was the owner at the time gave him a raise right to remove his name from the conversations he took that now 15 years later he's getting an interview again i watched first takes reaction to schottenheimer potentially getting the head coaching job, and they were all just like, why? This is shit.
This guy sucks. This guy is out.
As a guy who had a chance to be around Shottie in Indianapolis, I think he's a great dude. Obviously, he grew up in the NFL, grew up in football with his dad, being a legendary coach.
I didn't think he was going to be the Cowboys guy either, but now that it's starting to happen, maybe Bobby Slowick there. Maybe Bobby Sloick gets an opportunity to be with Jerry Jones and Dallas Cowboys.
Maybe he does get fired from one job and become a head coach within the same state. That is still on the table, Ty Schmidt.
Yeah, without a doubt. I mean, I don't think we have any idea what the Cowboys are going to do.
You know, one day it's, hey, Shottie's going to be the guy. The next day it's, hey, Jason Witten came in and knocked Jerry's socks off.
And then Jerry still is kind of thinking about about deon and now boobie slowick gets let go and no one really thought that was going to happen so i mean crazier things have happened who knows what's going to happen with the cowboys i feel like this could drag on for another month and a half and i wouldn't be surprised jerry allegedly reached out to pete carroll as well to uh kind of gauge his interest on being the head coach of the cowboys what we do know is there was a report of the average attendance for each home game. Dallas Cowboys are king.
Okay. That place is massive.
Jerry World is huge. We all know that 92,972 average attendance.
Okay. And they stunk this year.
Yeah. They had Cooper Cush playing quarterback.
Mike McCarthy was on a lame duck contract contract michael parsons was doing more in podcasting than he was on the field everything was bad for the cowboys this year they're averaging almost 93 000 a game which is 20 000 more than most people in the nfl it's a business all eyes are on you whoever's the head coach is going to have the spotlight whether they love it or not and a fan base that's ready to go and jerry's just collecting checks brother and there's a reason why he is so damn arrogant everything i do works i got people from other teams telling me how i need to operate how many people you got at your games that's what i thought how much is your evaluation of your that's what i thought how many super bowls you that's what i Everybody needs to get off my ass, which is allegedly why he's doing a solo mission in this entire thing to find the next head coach. Yeah, which is also awesome for us to know because if it doesn't work out, then we're going to be able to rip on Jerry even harder.
But even the next two are funny. The New York market makes sense, but people are still showing up to Jets and Giants games, which is comedy when you think about what a dumpster fireball those places are, too.
Neither of the, I guess, KC's there, but it's not seeing Buffalo or Detroit on there is a little shocking. Is that just stadium? I wonder how many stadiums.
Some places only see like 65,000, though. Yeah, yeah.
Stadium size. Buffalo moving into their new stadium next year? I believe so.
I think so, yeah. Looks sweet.
Awesome. Looks really nice.
It does. And 13 feet is really tall.
People aren't happy about this. Not really.
It's tall. It's not really tall.
I think if the chest of the bison is at 13 feet and the top of the bison head is at, like, what, 20? Yeah, that's okay. That's tall.
That's okay. That's a towering bison.
They didn't say that, though. They said the top is 13.
Yeah. Oh, I thought they said the chest was 13.
No.

No, you know.

The chest would probably be about two or three feet.

You're not going to be walking under that.

The chest might be.

We'll see.

They might be a little famished, Buffalo.

Cold weather.

Yep.

Will they be able to give their fans five bucks to shovel snow at the new stadium?

Okay.

Gumpy's still holding out against them, obviously. Gumpy, big-time Miami Dolami dolphins fan afc east doesn't love the josh allen's the wagon over there and the dolphins potentially never going to be as such how's tyreek going have we heard any updates on what's going on with the dolphins nothing really radio silent out of 305 it's been uh radio silent ever since d butch actually asked rosenhouse if he knew for sure tyreek wanted to be a Dolph.
He said, I actually haven't talked to him. Tyreek Hill is the least of the Miami Dolphins' worries.
Loves being a Dolphin. Absolutely workhorse.
Played injured. Had a broken wrist all season long.
He got caught up in the emotion afterwards. Tyreek Hill is not something for the Miami Dolphins or their fans to be worried about.
So, Tyreek's back with the Dolphins. I've not talked to him.
I didn't say that. Okay, I am not 100% sure.
What a moment there. Just agenting the entire time.
He was the best. He was awesome.
That was a hall of fame performance. Then he got us dinner reservations at like three different places.
And we didn't go to any of them. We didn't.
And we are so sorry. At 1230 at midnight.
This place is going to stay open for you guys. You want to stop by? Good people, good chef, great atmosphere.
This place on the roof of this other place, you guys would love it. This place, not really known as well.
Great chef, up and coming. Got spots for you anywhere you need it.
I'm like, thank you, Drew. I really appreciate that.
And then call Drew. Hey, we ain't doing any of that.
that we're gonna go back to hotel lay down for a little bit it is so cold it is so cold our plane got uh delayed we uh we have bill belichick joining us here in a few minutes i think he is caught in travel a little bit so we don't know when exactly that's going to be his transition into college ball is certainly going to be a story to monitor all year another story to monitor age, H, is what do the Baltimore Ravens do this offseason? How do they get over the hump? Did you see Mark Andrews' Instagram post where he explained, like, you know, it took me a while to gather my thoughts because of how devastated he was for the entire team. How do you feel about this being the way that he went about addressing it? And how do you feel about the response from everybody saying, hey, you good, brother.
You good. Yeah, I mean i i can understand him not wanting to speak to the media directly after the game and you know as they're cleaning their lockers i would i mean i probably would have been better if he could have just you know been honest and done it but i can imagine that would have been a really really difficult situation i'm glad he at least addresses it here so it was once you address it hopefully you can start to move on from it but something like this you know until you win a super bowl or something it's tough to really actually move on but the dude's a stud he's an awesome player so people need to figure that out and like he's gonna make a ton of plays for them you know it's cool there wasn't an immediate burial of lamar jackson after the game we thought that once one of these teams lost that there was going to be a murder of either josh allen or lamar jackson seems like that wasn't the case everybody understands Lamar is probably going to win another MVP back-to-back.
Had a great year, but they're not in the AFC Championship. Speaking of these games, SeatGeek has sent over the average resale price for both of these games and the Super Bowl.
Look at these numbers. Holy shit.
Damn. $9,444 current Super Bowl ticket resale price.
$1,800 over there in Philadelphia. $9.71 in the home of the Chiefs.
Right now, use code PAT50. You'll get $50 off championship round tickets.
So that drops down to $1,758 average resale for the NFC and 921 dollar average resale for bills and chiefs in that entirety and then 9444 bucks average Super Bowl resale that thing can change dramatically like if Washington goes first time long time I think price goes up I think price goes through the roof because the old school Washington. What was it? Tony.
What was their name age? They used to dress up like as pigs. The Hawks.
The Hawks. The Wild Hawks.
That wasn't their name though, right? They weren't the Washington Hawks. That's what I called them, I thought.
Is that what you called them? Mm-hmm. Yeah, I remember seeing all the fans dressed up as pigs and all that.
I don't think they were ever the Washington Hawks. Can you Google what they're...
Sick name. The Hawks.
The Washington Wild Hogs. What's it say? Did you Google it? That's just what they call the Fatas.
Yeah, the O-line, and they dressed in dresses and stuff like that, but the team name was actually the Redskins. Oh! A lot of fans from the Redskins era, they would potentially want to go in there.
I don't think there's any bad Super Bowl for the NFL here. You know, like there's some bad matchups in college.
People talk about it in the NFL that could be. In this particular fashion for ticket prices, I think it's all going up.
Week of. I think it's all going up.
Whether it's the Buffalo Bills, haven't been there a long time. Can't see the Chiefs trying to do what's never been done before.
History seekers are going to try to buy that. Washington Commanders, their fans have been yearning for this for a very long time.
And then the Philadelphia Eagles, obviously the Johns in Philadelphia, have a date with destiny in their eyes, potentially with Sirianni earning the respect of the entire Eagles fan base. How long do you think Sirianni has respect if he wins the Super Bowl with the Philadelphia Eagles this year? I mean, I think you'd have to respect him until he's gone.
I mean, I... When's he gone? Lifetime contract? I'm not saying you give him a lifetime contract, but I'm saying then if they win the Super Bowl this year and they start like 0-3 next year...
Boo! They'll boo him on ring night. They absolutely would.
On banner night, they'll boo his ass. But I think they should reconsider.
If he is going to deliver you a steaming hot piece of horse shit that you're going to be able to eat on parade day, I think maybe give him a pass for all next season. And then if they miss the playoffs next year, then we start talking.
Exactly. Joining us now is a man who has won all the the super bowls yep now he's attempting to win a national championship with the north carolina tarheel football team head coach of them ladies and gentlemen the greatest of all time in the nfl of coaching and general managing bill pelichette coach i like the bird we're on a bird right now where are we headed we're recruiting right now we are we are we're

actually headed back to chapel hill so all good okay how you guys doing hey we're great man it's been fun kind of following along with everything you've been doing are you on the recruiting trail right now that's what you're doing yeah we're coming off it yeah we got uh we got some guys coming in this weekend uh so i'm headed back to chapel hill to have big recruiting weekend there UNC-BC basketball, so big game Saturday.

Hell yeah, they just signed the number six overall recruit, I do believe, to North Carolina basketball. It was on a lower ticket this morning.
Everything's up for North Carolina. Everybody thought this part of the process you would hate.
Have you enjoyed it more than you expected, and how has it been going? Yeah, it's been great. It's been great to get out on the road, see some of the great high school coaches and programs, players.
Still got a lot more to hit, but it's been fun connecting with so many people, some new, some old, but it's been a great process. And there's a lot of really good kids out there.
It's been fun to see them. What are the questions that they're asking? Are they talking about money first and foremost? Are they asking about development about development projection what is the conversation usually regard between you and a potential north carolina football player oh really it's about the player investing in his future um you know the next few years to be critical to his uh career both uh well professionally whether that be in football or out of football and that investment um is you know north north carolina is a great place for that to happen, both on the field and in the football program, but also, you know, it's a great university with, you know, great educational programs.
So if they invest in us at Carolina, we'll have them ready to go when they leave. Yeah, whether it's in professional football or just your professional life, you're going to be a better human, hopefully, after you leave the North Carolina football program.
AJ has a question for you, Coach. Coach, there's reports that Jeremiah Smith, obviously a stud receiver at Ohio State, got offered $4.5 million to enter the portal and possibly go somewhere else, and there's other guys getting offers, I guess, all over the place.
What do you make of all this, how this is working now, the NIL situation, and how do you navigate throughout this through the years? Well, it's pretty similar to what we have in the NFL. So as I said, it's a little bit of a combination between the day, a couple hours after the draft, when all the undrafted players are negotiating their contracts to be on a roster and free agency just in general where those couple days of the let's call it legal tampering period I think they call it when you're talking to agents trying to work out deals with them before the players are actually allowed to visit and you're allowed to talk to them it's it's not the same but sort of a combination of those two NFL events so yeah it is what it is i mean there's a lot of a lot of um money promises and opportunity being uh discussed and um you know everybody's in on it the players the teams that have the players the teams that are looking for the players uh and following the guidelines that are the process which are uh not as well defined as they were in the nfl but that's what it is.
Okay. So on that note, there's no marketplace, right? There's no comps.
How do you know, or are you just trying to do as much research as possible? Or are you putting the value on the players and not worrying about what everybody else is doing? Exactly. I think you put your own value on them and if it works, it works.
And if it doesn't, it doesn't. Maybe you have to readjust your values as you get more information.
But, yeah, ultimately, you have to make your own decisions on that. Yeah, that's an interesting thing because you hear $4.5 million.
You guys were allegedly given $8 million, and Lombardi came out and said, I didn't, we didn't. If that's somebody not us did that.
But that's like kind of the world we're in. Absurd numbers are tossed out.
Is that all for negotiation and leverage? Or is that reality? I i guess you got to cipher through that let's talk about the nfl real quick well pat pat you know it's free agency and i think uh you know i think mike's handled that great uh you know i've been on the phone with him many times where they say well you know we've been offered uh you know two million dollars or whatever to go wherever and uh michael said well then you should take that. That's a great offer.
Go ahead. And then they come back and say, well, we might have $2 million, but what do you have? So, you know, it's just part of the process.
You know, you've got to enjoy the process and embrace it because you can't change it. And so you eventually just figure it out.

Mike's really good at it, though.

It is poker.

It is poker.

Yeah, it's bluffing, you know.

Can you read somebody?

Lombardi's saying, wow, that's an incredible offer.

Yeah, you should go take that.

All right, click.

Yeah.

All right.

They didn't fall for it.

But, Pat, the reality of the situation is whatever the money is in college,

it's fractional to what it is in the NFL.

You know, call college money $20 million or somewhere in that ballpark whatever it is uh the nfl we're looking at a 300 million dollar cap so uh there's way more money that's why i say the investment is so important for the player uh invest in yourself you cash in later you might make a couple hundred thousand dollars more here or there in college wherever it is you go but in the end uh what's going to really matter is is what happens when you get to the next level and uh there's at least 10 times more money there and growing yeah and some and growing you're right projected uh salary cap next year 275 million and it's only going up it's only going up every single year somehow congrats the nfl absolutely crushing it ratings through the roof

and money going everywhere there's some you know nil deals that are worth more than what rookie

contracts are for nfl guys i think that's been talked about a lot but that second contract in

the nfl is never you're never going to be able to touch it in college so do you delay that how long

do you delay it we shall see let's talk a little nfl connor has a question for you yeah coach p

carroll got hired officially today to the las vegas raiders and immediately people started

Thank you. that how long do you delay it we shall see let's talk a little nfl connor has a question for you yeah coach pete carroll got hired officially today to the las vegas raiders and immediately people started kind of nitpicking his age and that he's going to be the oldest head coach in the history of the nfl when it comes to that kind of from the outside looking in and i'm sure you had to deal with it as well like is there really a problem when it comes to an older coach kind of starting out with an organization and do you think that there's any like age limit to coaching because that is kind of what people are starting to form because he is 73 going to be 74 in September well you know it's just a number um but I think Pete's got a ton of energy and uh if you look at some of the coaches in the league, like Andy Reid, is not doing too bad.

She's not doing too bad Sean Payton has a lot of experience did a good job of turning that program around in Denver pretty quickly not too bad we just saw a president 78 years old get elected looks like he's got a lot of energy too he's already getting some stuff done that he promised he would do not talking talking politics i'm just saying for his age uh he's he looks pretty active so um you know i think it's really more about the person in the situation but uh you know pete knows how to run a good program he's done that uh you know multiple times and and um i'm sure he'll add a lot to to uh las vegas and um honestly i they'll improve a lot this year let's put it like that sources have been telling us that Tom Brady was running that entire interview process over there uh obviously he is now a minority owner for the Las Vegas Raiders I don't know what I expected I didn't expect to hear that he was the one doing the interviews with everybody what do you think he was asking what do you think he looking for? And why do you think he inevitably landed with Pete Carroll becoming the next head coach? Honestly, Pat, I'm not really sure. You know, Tom is a really smart guy, but I don't know how, what that process was or wasn't and how that went.
Honestly, I've been pretty busy running around myself here at North Carolina, but look, Tom look tom's uh you know he does a great job and and whatever whatever his involvement was i'm sure it was positive yeah because there's reports he called you and then there was reports called lombardi it was like he was seeking information i think from everybody as he dove into this process to get it right and uh you know he wants his investment oh yeahers want the one thing to go up. That's the number in the valuation.
Tone has a question for you, Coach. Yeah, Coach, as a Steelers fan growing up, I knew against the Pats that we maybe had a chance during the regular season, but once that AFC championship game came, there was no chance that we were beating the Patriots.
I believe you were 3 or 4-0 against the Steelers in AFC championship games. Similar situation this weekend where the bills have had the chiefs number during the regular season, but the chiefs are undefeated against the bills come AFC or come playoff games.
Why do you think that is? Is it just, you know, better teams, you guys hunkered down in the, in the playoffs or what do you think led to those? Well, what led to it last year was Buffalo missed a field goal that could have put the game into overtime. You know, you've got some really close games that have come down to a couple of plays, and Kansas City has made those the last couple times.
But, I mean, in the end, this game on Sunday, I don't think it really has anything to do with those previous games. It'll be another situation where if the game comes down to a handful of plays at the end, not that the plays aren't critical during the rest of the game, but if it comes down to a couple of plays at the end, it'll just be who makes them.
And do I think Josh Allen's capable of making them? Absolutely. Do I think that Mahomes and Kelsey are capable of making them? Absolutely.
But that's why they play the game. And I think it'll be a great matchup.
I do think that Buffalo's going in there with a really good football team. And Kansas City, you can never count them out.
But I think it's going to be tough for Kansas City. I really do.
Both teams are really good. But I think it's going to be tough.
And I wouldn't be surprised if the team that wins that game isn't the favorite in the Super Bowl winning at this rate at this clip is something that not a lot of people have ever been able to do obviously you are the outlier in that story what the Chiefs have been able to do and what you were able to do do you have to get lucky injury wise whatwise? Why do you think it's so hard for teams to replicate success throughout the NFL? Well, I think Kansas City's overcome a lot of injuries. And at the Patriots, I think we did too.
There were times when we had injuries you had to deal with during the year. It's really about having the depth in your team and having a well-balanced team.
I think the thing that's impressive about Kansas City is they've won on offense, they've won on defense,

they've won on special teams.

They've blocked a field goal to beat Denver.

They've had a last-minute drive.

They've made four down stops defensively to win games.

So they've been able to make the plays they need to make

because they have a well-balanced team.

They have a very experienced coaching staff with Nag you know naggy spags and and uh and tob as well as andy of course and so you know they obviously work well together they don't make many mistakes you've got to really go out there and play a good game to beat kansas city and and obviously uh that hasn't happened very much recently so um they really force you to play well and if you make a they take advantage of it. Let's talk about the person that's going to have to play against them and Josh Allen.
You've seen him since his rookie year. He's obviously taken massive steps every single year.
Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Coach, speaking of that, when you first came in, Josh Allen, obviously he was an unbelievable athlete, but everyone looked at, hey, this guy's completion percentage is super low.
A lot of the turnovers are bonehead decisions, but he's just continued to mature year after year. What have you noticed about his maturation process, and why do you think he is so much better now than he was when he first came in? I agree.
He's just gotten better every year, and I think it's a lot like Brady where they're just not satisfied with their performance no matter how good it is they keep getting better and better and you know doing little things better you know Allen's done a great job this year of not turning the ball over and he continues to make critical plays on third down fourth down in the red area in a two-minute situation with the ball in his hands and you know it's it's remarkable that he, you know, he's so hard to stop. It's almost like everybody knows he's going to have the ball in those situations.
But, you know, he continues to make it look easy, to be honest with you. And I'm sure that Kansas City is, you know, geared to stop those, but we'll see whether or not they can.
You know, Josh and the offensive have done a great job of continuing to produce in a critical situation. So, again, it's wins.
It's not yards. It's not stats.
It's not any of those things. It's wins.
And that's two things that Allen and Mahomes do really well. They find ways to help their team win.
It's not about producing the biggest stats. It's about making the plays they need to make at critical times to win.
And whether that's whatever happens to be, whether it's a four-minute offense running out the clock or a two-minute offensive drive or getting the team in a field position for a field goal, they seem to be able to do it. And then for the most part, the rest of their team has come through.
Buffalo's well balanced team i don't know if they're as well balanced as as kansas city is let's head to the nfc now a rookie sensation jayden daniels brand new ownership brand new coach brand new vibes for the commanders they make it to the nfc championship they're taking on a philadelphia eagles team that is playing football differently than seemingly everybody else go ahead aj coach yeah saquon barkley and what he's doing

like when you are coming up against a guy like him say you're trying to stop him defensively i guess what can you do to try to limit his production and not let a guy like saquon beat you is there anything other than just hey we've got to be gap sound you know don't peek at everyone play like team defense 11 to the ball is there like what can you do scheme wise i guess to try to slow them down.

Well, I don't think it's scheme,

but I think the most important thing is secondary tackling. I think we saw last week against the Rams, they hit three long runs, one by Hurts, and the other one, the other two, the safeties just weren't able to make the tackle, so those seven-yard gains end up going 60, 75, you know, whatever it is.
He just outruns everybody. And they've had opportunities to make those tackles and just weren't able to make them.
So you can't give up any long runs to him. He's going to get some seven, eight, 10 yarders, but it's the 60, 70 yarders that just really, you know, are backbreaking.
So, yeah, he's definitely a hard guy to stop, but I think tackling is going to be the number one issue with him, um, particularly in the secondary. And then, uh, you know, of course the receivers are explosive guys too with, you know, Smith and Brown.
So, you know, they're definitely a problem. It's their hard offense to stop.
Uh, they've got a great offensive line. They're well coached.
Um, you know, they're. They're very good.
I think in the end probably what Washington wants to do is force Hurts to beat them and not let Barkley beat them. That's easier said than done, but that's probably the way they'll look at it.
No, you just pack the box, right? Easy as that. Just pack the box.
You've got to figure it out. Yeah, well, we've seen people load up on the line of scrimmage but when Barkley splits it you know then it's a 60 yard run it's all over so you know having layers to your defense is is fundamentally what you want to do you want to have that second layer and then the last layer safety that's why they call them safety safety you're the last guy you can guy.
You can't expect a nose tackle to make tackle on a guy that's 10 yards into the defense. The safety is the last guy.
He's got to make that play. And, you know, that's going to be a big challenge for not only the safeties, but also the corners, you know, in the run force in the secondary there.
But I would say offensively for Washington, you know, Jaden Danielsiels has had a tremendous year his improvement has been remarkable um i think that his ability to throw the ball inside the numbers which he didn't do a lot of at the beginning of the year um has really been good and his anticipation of guys coming open instead of waiting to see him get open uh he now can anticipate that window and deliver the ball that split second earlier and and that's made a world of difference he's had a tremendous year um and i think he's just seeing things a lot better in the middle of field he's always been really good on the outside and obviously running but i think the you know his his work inside um inside the the hash mark or inside the numbers has been particularly good and improved.

And McLaurin, you know, that's the guy you got to stop.

You just can't give up explosive plays to him and red area touchdowns to him.

You got to do a good job on that guy.

But again, that's a lot easier said than done, too.

He's, you know, he's a great receiver.

He absolutely is.

We got great games this weekend.

We can't wait to watch your North Carolina Tar Heels opening game Monday night on ESPN. Primetime.
You're the man. Safe travels, okay? Is game day going to be there, Pat? I don't make those decisions.
Would love to. Would love to be there, though.
You're the man, ladies and gentlemen. The GOAT, Coach Belichick.
Safe travels. Listen.
Who are they playing? Small plane. Very small plane I knew that you thought that right away As soon as I saw his head like this I'm like Bill he shouldn't be putting you on that plane Now granted save money on the travel Put money into your roster He's probably not asking for anything but What's your gene? Put you on a bigger bird Just want to let you know I think he's he's going to win.
They're going to win. That's just what's...
I already see him writing down his notes. I see him losing maybe early.
Like in my head. They got a primetime game on Monday night.
His team is going to be nowhere near where they're going to be in like a year from now or whatever. But just watching him go to work and take on the challenge and potentially become one of the only coaches to win a college football national championship and a Super Bowl at the same time.
I love the task. I appreciate him stopping by in the middle of the recruiting trail.
He's the man. And thank you all so much for allowing us to do this for a living.
We will continue on YouTube, ESPN+, Disney+, and TikTok Live. We'll make our picks, and then we will thrust into a magical weekend with Saturday night main event tomorrow night and then

championship Sunday as the Eagles

and commanders do battle. Then the

Bills and the Chiefs. We'll be back for

overreaction Monday. Be a friend.
Tell a

friend something nice. It might change

their life, AJ Hawk.

Just like our friends at Dude Wipes.

Yep. Show it out.
Wash your

ass. We're in this thing together.

See you on Monday. Goodbye.
Alright All right, let's make our picks. Nailed it.
Here we go. Let's make our picks.
Boop. AJ, Sunday, 3 o'clock on Fox.
Tom Brady on the call. Washington Commanders take on the Philadelphia Eagles in front of a bunch of Johns.
In front of the founder of Danny and Coop's, your favorite cheesesteak shop in New York. Jalen Carter and the boys lead a defense that is pummeling.
But can they stop a phenomenon named Jaden Daniels, Cliff Kingsbury, Terry McLaurin, Zach Ertz, in a litany of weapons that we could have never projected to make it to the NFC Championship. And then for the offense for the Eagles, are they going to be able to run the ball over people? At what point do people say, yeah, we're not going to let Saquon wreck the game? Is Jalen going to be able to take this thing over? Or will his commander's defense that has been counted out and ranked 18th in total defense and point scoring defense will they be able to rise to the occasion in what we assume will be a very cold game of philadelphia will they want to make the hits will they want to be able to make the tackles aj the eagles are favored by six at home dallas goddard has come out and said he's going to play cam jurgens shefty said it's been raised to me a couple times i haven't got an answer let's assume he's gonna play it's the playoffs a lot of guys are just trying to get to the game a lot of people missing practices this is normal a lot of people in treatment all day to try to make it to the game and then they lay it on the line because it's either a win or go home i don't know that about jergens haven't heard Haven't heard anything about Juergens.
But what we know of him, we assume, if he can walk, he's going to play in the NFC Championship. Eagles favored by six.
AJ, your thoughts? I've gone back and forth so many times. And listening to Bill even talk about this game has me thinking about waffling whatever I was originally going to do.
My initial instincts, as you guys know, was the Washington Commanders. I told you that early in the week.
I understand Coop is a big fan of the Eagles. I understand the cheesesteak situation.
He's great. Tell me something, Coop.
I mean, I appreciate Coop's support of the Eagles, but I'm taking the Commanders here. Plus six.
He's been taking the Commanders for the last week. What worries me, what does worry me, what's made me almost waffle is Jalen Carter.
Like, I think this guy's an absolute monster. He is a stud.
So difficult to block the Duke and take over a game from the interior, which is crazy. But I'm taking the Commanders still.
Any other news? Commanders offensive line, right? Yeah, Cosby is out for the year. And he's their best lineman, which Shafter alluded to.
AJ has wanted the Commanders for a while. Yes.
It's a beautiful story. It's a wonderful story.
If you're around the NFL, you're watching the Commanders be able to turn it all on its head in one year. New vision, new vibe, new attitude, new people in important positions.
Your franchise can no longer be absolute shite. You can actually go on and win.
So people are pulling for the commanders, I think, and naturally so. What was the percentage of money on the Washington commanders? 69%.
What was 69%? It moved the percentage. 69% is a big amount of money on the commanders.
The six. Those have hit before.
I love the commanders. Give me the Eagles.
Yeah. At home, favored by six.
Back door cover scares me. You know why you did that? Why is that? It's in your blood, born and raised on defense and running football.
That's right. Just like Coach Ciarani's dad said.
O-line, D-line, Howie. O-line, D-line.
When I saw AQ have Philadelphia Eagles offensive line as number one

and then rank the Eagles as number six,

I said that goes against everything that I believe about football,

and it also, I think, goes against everything you've been pitching about football.

I still think their offensive line is able to win games.

I still think even though Jalen Hurts is banged up

or hasn't had anywhere near the season that everybody has projected through the sky,

A.J. Brown, Devontae Smith, obviously they're going to have their moments where they have to read inner excellence or inner highness.
Sure. Inner excellence to kind of get motivated back, but give me the Eagles at home.
Shout out to the commanders though. That was awesome.
And then the 630 game on CBS with Tony Romo on the call. Josh Allen, Patrickrick mahomes stop if you've heard this before peyton manning tom brady now josh impact this is the rivalry that we need in football more specifically in the afc one young stud on a hunt to be called the GOAT before he even turns 30 years old.

The other, hunting for at least a little bit of respect and appreciation.

Has never won an MVP.

Has had over 40 touchdowns for the last three years.

He's playing his best ball with a team that doesn't have anywhere near the amount of notable names that he's had in the past.

The Buffalo Bills travel to the home of the cheese as one and a half point dogs aj who do you like how do you like so i have officially waffled on this one i was originally my instincts were thinking hey the chiefs are the chiefs i'm to ride with these guys. Listen to Bill speak a little bit about it.

Watching Deion Dawkins speak throughout the weeks.

I'm taking the Bills here, plus one and a half.

Josh Allen, I think they find a way to get it done.

The atmosphere is going to be brutally tough for Buffalo,

but I think they're going to gain a ton of confidence,

a ton of juice from going in there and finding a way to win.

I love this Buffalo Bills team.

I do.

You watch the film, you think they're a better team than the Kansas City Chiefs. Remember, the Kansas City Chiefs, this isn't a good Kansas City Chiefs team.
Now they're the number one overall seed. They have the best record in football.
But they haven't played great. They've been out game numerous times.
They've turned the ball over whenever nobody thought. Now they haven't for eight games.
Their defense wasn't as sound early. Wait, is this the Chiefs team that we've been? And all they do is win.
All they do is win. Travis Kelsey is coming live.
There was a stat about Travis Kelsey in the playoffs. And it's just unguardable.
Yeah, yeah, good. This is when it starts to happen.
This is when Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey start doing their bullshit. There it is.
There it is. This is crazy.
Yeah, unguardable. Here's the artist shuttles for his last 14 playoff games.
Yeah, he goes bananas. 71 yards, not a good game.
Probably had three touchdowns in that one if we had to guess. He is unstoppable.
So is Patrick Mahomes. Spags is going to be able to dial something up to stop Josh Allen, I think.
Slow down, Josh Allen. Not stop, Josh Allen.
Marty Cooper is probably going to go bananas. It's's gonna be a good one I like the over okay I like this to be a shootout in the freezing cold I like the fact that Taylor Swift's gonna be there we don't know if Caitlin Clark's gonna be there don't know give me the Chiefs because the Chiefs is still the Chiefs until the Chiefs ain't the Chiefs and the only time the Chiefs ain't gonna be the Chiefs is when somebody beats them in the playoffs and nobody's been able to do it.
So, I think the Chiefs go to their third straight Super Bowl. I'm not going to give away my pick for the Super Bowl, but you probably know where I'm headed.
Shout out to the Kansas City Chiefs. We appreciate your shout out to the Buffalo Beals, who I love.
But I think the Chiefs win the AFC yet again. I mean, their owner's last name is on the trophy.
So, let's never ever forget that. Alright, from all of us to all of you, shout out to DoorDash, by the way.
Whatever you need, whatever you need, you can get it. Shout out.
Had to get some cold medicine through DoorDash. Had to show my ID at the door.
Oh, yeah. Which I respect and appreciate that they were able to deliver some cold medicine.
Let's not be building meth. Let's not be making meth.
Let's make sure you're old enough to be able to do it. DoorDash got your back.
You want food? They got your back. You want five-star restaurants? They got your back.
You want ghost kitchens that are just cooking for DoorDash? They got your back. Shout out to DoorDash.
We appreciate you. Multiple seasons out DoorDash has been with us.
DoorDash changed the the world. DoorDash changed the world, for real.
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Shout out to DoorDash.

Some people say football changes the world.

I agree.

And on Sunday, the world will go from, eh, to, ah, two great games coming on Sunday.

Saturday night, main event tomorrow night on NBC is going to be electrifying, and we'll be back for every action Monday.

Thank you all so much for allowing us to do this for a living. You're the greatest people on earth.
Talks to the table, great work this week. Hey, you too, man.
Way to battle. Yep.
AP Tone, way to go, pal. Thanks.
Boys in the back, that's what we're talking about. Hey, boys.
Graphic department, yeah. Yeah.
Talk, still talk. Yeah.
Yeah. The national championship was on monday yeah crazy

that's a few days impossible it's friday yeah it's the same week same blew my mind too wow

life's rolling life's flying every once in a while you gotta stop and say hey life is good

it could be much worse remember that it could be dead we're lucky to wake up every day and although

everybody goes through shit some much more severe than others let's never forget that we could be

Thank you. much worse.
Remember that. It could be dead.
We're lucky to wake up every day. And although everybody goes through shit, some much more severe than others, let's never forget

that we could be

six feet under

and not doing any of this. So let's try

to find the silver lining. Let's try

to find the good. Let's cut out the negative

bullshits and let's enjoy this life.

Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice.

It might change their life. We're in this thing together.

Team on me. Team on three.
One, two, three. Team.
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