PMS 2.0 1282 - Aaron Glenn Hired As Head Coach Of The New York Jets, Russell Wilson, JJ Watt, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this white Wednesday, January 22nd, 2025. This program starts right now.
Football! It is wonderful, and we are incredibly lucky that we get to talk about it every single day. We only have a few games left.
Now, granted, they are the most important games of the year for the NFL. We got two conference championships this weekend.
Then we have a Super Bowl two weeks from then. And then we have...
Then we have... A whole lot of nothing.
Then we have... Mania? WrestleMania.
Boom. Then we have...
Draft? NFL Draft. Draft.
Combine. Combine.
Drama. Yes.
Stories. Bullshit.
Yes. NBA.
No. Formula One.
You shut your goddamn mouth. Sorry.
Lewis Hamilton. Farrar.
That's a nine-year NFL vet and Formula One docuseries fan. No.
Sport. I don't think so.
You said you were out on the sport.

I don't think so.

I never said that.

Ladies and gentlemen, Darius J. Butler.

Thank you, buddy.

Welcome, brother.

That's a really nice hoodie you have on there.

It is beautiful.

It costs a pretty penny, but I like it.

Well, of course.

That's the society over there at G1.

You've got to really earn your keep over there.

You've got to pay tides.

You're going to be a part of this operation.

We're going to need a lot.

You're going to have to watch the DocuSeries, which I think good is by all accounts, right? I haven't watched it in a few years. But it's the thing that introduced you to the game? Kind of.
I actually caught on a random Sunday morning. Then I went and watched it.
This isn't real. We are retelling history right now.
That's how I watch it. A lot of people watch the docuseries on Netflix, which is awesome.
Golf is launching its third season, I believe, of a similar type thing on Netflix,

which I think is great for these sports.

I think the NHL should do it.

Obviously, the NBA is doing it with the starting five or whatever it is.

Tennis did it.

Tennis had a great one there for a while.

NHL does HBO 24 Hours or something like that.

They used to.

They did a series with Amazon this past season that followed around McJesus and Austin Matthews, a couple other guys. Those things are awesome.
Those things are great. I think that's great for development of sport.
But with that being said, a lot of these sports are tough to watch night in, night out. You know, especially whenever it doesn't matter as much.
So what I'm saying is these three final games that we have, the AFC Conference Championship,

which showcases a modern rivalry that people will be talking about forever.

It's the new Tom versus Peyton.

It's the new conversation about who's the top dog in the NFL.

Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Kansas City Chiefs, Buffalo Bills, or AFC Championship.

Tell us if you've heard this story before.

Josh Allen, if he wins,

will be the first time that he's beat Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs.

Wow.

But it'll be his fifth time beating him as a whole.

You see, Josh Allen is 4-0 against the Chiefs during a regular season, 0-3 during the playoffs.

When it's win or go home,

every single time,

Josh Allen has had to go home whenever he's playing Patrick Mahomes. Now, is it Josh Allen's fault? Certainly not.
I mean, the games that he has played have been fantastic. And obviously, there's a lot of different storylines that have ended those games.
And Patrick Mahomes is Patrick Mahomes because Patrick Mahomes does Patrick Mahomes shit on the biggest stages, just like he did this past week where he and Travis Kelsey had their most prolific game this season. Now, why is that? Well, it's because you either win or you go home.
You win and you continue your journey to the top of Lombardi Mountain, which the Chiefs are looking to do for a third straight time, first time ever in the modern NFL era. And then the Buffalo Bills, well, they've been a team that can't get the job done.
Josh Allen's a guy who hasn't won an MVP and doesn and uh doesn't look like he's gonna win one this year either and has he ever won a super bowl why are we talking about this guy why is josh allen the prototype that what everybody wants wow if you can get the next josh allen that's quarterback you want then you hear all the people go that ain't got one guy that wins what are we even talking about he does win he's a fantastic footballer but until you get a ring and are able to hang a banner in that beautiful new stadium they're building up there in buffalo that is how you're going to be judged forever you can ask dan marino who still gets that brought up about him even though he's one of the greatest football players to ever walk this earth it's chit-chat peyton manning was a guy couldn't get the job done for a very very very long time then he wins the super bowl big deal john elway same exact type of situation you're talking about when you win a super bowl you get a lot of questions and a lot of remarks taken out of your resume quickly josh allen has a chance to do that now obviously gonna have to get over his tallest task yet and i put out a you know uh x poll and got 62 000 votes it feels like pretty large sample size yeah pretty large sample size 50 percent of the people that voted on this said the Buffalo Bills are gonna win Lombardi wow the Buffalo Bills are the team that are gonna be able to figure out how to win the next one and then the big one the Buffalo Bills are gonna not only knock off Patrick Mahomes in the playoff for the first time but they're gonna be able to go ahead and beat whoever wins the NFC championship a young gun in the first year of a brand new ownership first year of a brand new head coaching era the first year of a brand new everything in washington has a rookie quarterback playing football better than potentially any rookie quarterback in the history of the game we thought cj stroud was going to be untoppable we thought cj stroud was incomparable we thought the cj stroud's rookie year was going to be something that was never going to be able to be matched. And then this dude shows up in Washington with Cliff Kingsbury as the offense coordinator and a litany of dogs across the board.
Here's Terry McLaurin's pregame speech to the offense for the Washington Commanders before last week's massive upset over the Detroit Lions. The only thing you really got is your name and your reputation.
What are they going to say about your name? What are they going to say about your reputation?

What are they going to say when they turn that film on?

I know what they going to say about me.

I'm going to ride out.

They're going to say, we some dogs, man.

Let's get it.

See who you say you are, man.

Win on three.

One, two, three.

Win.

Yeah, I see why they beat the Lions.

I see why this team is who they are.

Obviously brand new, but you got a veteran like Terry McLaurin,

who's had many successful years in the past, in a transition era to relevancy for the first time in a long time, which kind of replicates Travis Kelsey, beginning of his career with the Kansas City Chiefs. They were crap.
They were not good. They were out.
Then he matures in the game, and then he gets Patrick Mahomes, and they become this brand new, whoosh, up to the top. Terry McLaurin's been waiting for the Washington Commanders, Washington football team, Washington.
Oh, was he there? No. No, he was not.
Okay. He's been a football team.
He was a football team. Oh, gee, yeah.
Yeah. But he has been waiting alongside everybody else over there for the Washington, what was their name? What was it, AQ? Ladies and gentlemen, 12-year NFL Super Bowl champion AQ Shipley is here.
They're the commanders now. They were the football team.
Then before that, where all their fans basically come from. Still wear all the gear.
Still wear all the gear every away game. Sean Taylor played for them.
Great player. Hell to the Redskins.
That's what it was. Redskins.

HTTR. A little bit too comfortable

saying that. As a person whose face

turns very red on a regular basis,

I would...

Sounds like that's potentially...

Now, Brandon, if the commanders...

Then that's what it is. Go in a Super Bowl, it's commanders

forever. But there's a lot of people saying

now's the time. We've been able

to kind of restore who we are, what

we are. We have a brand new owner.

We have a brand new quarterback. We have a brand

Thank you. forever but there's a lot of people saying now's the time okay we've been able to kind of restore who we are what we are we have a brand new owner we have a brand new quarterback we have a brand new everything a brand new vibe in washington as the commanders have terry mclaurin who's been waiting for this moment remember there's a lot of teams that wanted terry mclaurin listen you're gonna let your entire career go into irrelevance because you're playing for a bad team why don't you come over to another he's from indiana i wanted him back with the colts bad thought there was a chance we're going to be able to get him back because you hear him talk that's the guy you want in the locker room well it's not just him feels like their entire locker rooms bought it jayden daniels is one of the coolest customers in the history of the nfl as a rookie being able to dissect everything even as detroit lions defense this past weekend who have been dominant and aggressive and have been shutting people down and confusing people all season long aaron gl brought more blitzes than anybody in the NFL this season.
And all Jaden Daniels did was sit in the pocket and have the highest QBR against man, third down, fourth down, I think everything as they go in to a tough place to play. Take on the Johns of Philadelphia.
This Eagles team is tough. This Eagles team is ground and pound.

This Eagles team is built for the moment.

This Eagles team just had to win a game in a snowstorm, and they certainly were capable

of doing that. You know, and these games

are of massive importance.

They say, can you run the ball? Can you stop the run?

Philadelphia Eagles can do both very, very well.

Eagles are favored by six

at home, in front of the Johns.

In front of the mayor, who I assume will have learned how to spell the name of the team. Also, our country's burnt.
I feel like you should have to know how to spell. Yeah.
It's a big moment. It's our mascot.
Probably nervous. Yeah, because mayors don't speak at things a lot, so I understand what you're talking about.
I completely understand what you're saying. Is that bad momentum?

That's bad mojo.

Is that?

It certainly is.

I watch that and I'm like, oh, I can see how you make that mistake.

I can see how, here it is.

Let me hear you all say E-L-D-S-E-S-E-G-O!

Can understand how you make the mistake, obviously.

Anytime you're spelling things out, it's going to be tough.

Pete Thamel, one of the smartest guys I have ever been around uh try to spell it ought to go you know because the otttog oh uh in the internet yeah and i think he said uh otttot or something like that like it's hard it's not always easy now granted is a chant that has been around in philadelphia i think for maybe a hundred years since the liberty bell was cracked back there whenever they were the original capital of the United States of America. But I watched it, and I said, hold the phone now.
Because in Washington, it feels like everybody's kind of moving in the same direction. Left hand up.
Philadelphia now. We got the mayor not even knowing how to spell the team's name.
I'm not. Listen, is that bad mojo? I don't know.
Does that even exist in Philadelphia? Because all the bad mojo that was thrown at this Eagles team, even though they were winning, the championship Sunday should be remarkable. Both games are going to be electrifying, and we need to watch it and appreciate it because we don't have a lot left.
Talks at the table here at Boston Corner, at Ty Schmidt, Convan. For a long time, your Patriots were a part of this conversation, hosting this weekend.
It was kind of the New England Patriots weekend. Now it's Kansas City Chiefs weekend, brother.
Everybody thinks the refs are on their side. And did you know the Super Bowl logo? It's got a lot of red in it.
Yep, red and green. bowl logo it's got a lot of red in it yep red and green yeah it's got a lot of red and there is some green in there but it's a majority little red gold and green in there and i guess if you go back in time the super bowl logo for a long time has kind of given away the script what's been handed to teams are normally in there so they're saying chiefs eagles but a lot of people are saying the NFL, the refs, everybody

is behind the Chiefs, mostly because

Taylor Swift's over there. Yeah, it's

hard to argue because we watch the games

and we see the calls, but you know, good teams

things tend to go their way and the Chiefs

are a great, great team. This will

be the first time in my life that I

am genuinely rooting for the Buffalo

Bills. I feel like I can say that.
I think

their city deserves it. I think Josh Allen is awesome.
Yes, this is a genuine root for. The Chiefs are great.
And, of course, the Bills, their fan base is insufferable. But most of these fan bases are minus the HTTR.
But, again, the Chiefs are on their way to doing something great. I think the reason I want the Bills to win is because the Patriots can never win three in a row.
So the argument, chiefs dynasty better than the patriots dynasty i think that'll get held over all of new england's head i think that starts to gain some real legs you know once they win if they win three in a row because everyone says well they only have three super bowls you know the patriots they had six in 20 years the chiefs only have three you win three in a row that is the greatest three year four year five year span because it'll be four and five years in the history of football without a doubt. But the Bills, I think they have the juice to get it done.
Although the refs are seemingly on the Chiefs' side, even though you can't say that and it's not real. I don't think that is a very real thing.
We don't know. Maybe these refs have daughters that are feeling 22.
There's a chance, and T-Swift definitely helps for the NFL to grow the game. They love their ratings, and of course, T-Swift is definitely a huge pull, as is Kaitlin Clark, as we've learned with the new Women's Basketball League.
But again, the Buffalo Bills, they have what it takes, but I want to just count out the Eagles. It's a new brand.
Of course it is. It's a new't count out the eagles and i wouldn't count out the jayden daniel commies even though it's a new era in the states i think commies are going down i would say that with the philadelphia you know life always uh uh what it imitates art or uh you know sports always imitates society yeah exactly that is kind of how it goes I'm hoping the commies go down.
But, again, the Eagles, I would say, they have what it takes. And people don't like Jalen Hurts.
One of them sitting on the stage. But people don't like Jalen Hurts.
And I do think with Saquon, with the way that team is built, that there's an easy path to see the Eagles go all the way. And that was a big convo with the Commies versus the Lions.
Like hey, the Commanders have the third worst

rush defense in the NFL. So when

you think about that, you think about how the Eagles

are built, it would be something where

the Eagles could go all the way. This would be their

kind of second Super Bowl in the last

few years as well. Again, Nick Sirianni

maybe not a huge big dumb

dipshit if he's going to another Super Bowl

but I can't wait. It stinks

that it's here. It stinks that these are No, no, it's remember it's good it's good because of the fact that we're getting answers you know we play all these games to get to championship weekend but but you miss all those games that full slate on sunday you know a stacked one o'clock a stacked four o'clock a great sunday night that you wait all day for.
Yeah, you're talking about seven hours of red zone football. Yeah, no more commercial free.
That was a big change this year. Yeah, massive.
But that doesn't exist anyway, so there's no even reason to talk about it right now. Yeah, no.
Because all we got is two games. Plus, it's nice.
Scott Hansen can go piss. Now he can drink water.
I'm still thinking there's a chance he did. There's a little.
Depends. He wears a catheter.
Yeah. There's a chance.
I mean, I don't know. He's a machine, obviously.
A weapon. Very good at his job.
I don't know if his contract's up or whatnot. If it is or ever is near.
He's in a great position of leverage. I think he should feel that way.
Good luck to him in his negotiations. But, yeah, two games.
You know, one day. Yeah.
There's not a lot of ball left. Yeah.
Sad. But these games are going to be electrifying.
D. Butch, I'll talk to you about the Chiefs' story here.
Mm-hmm. You know, because there's a guy on the stage, and Connor alluded to him earlier about Jalen Hurts, who, you know, his entire gimmick is offensive line, offensive line, offensive line, offensive line.
Yeah. No gimmick.
It's real. Okay.
Well, until last week. Yeah, until last week when you had the eagles as the number one offensive line left in the playoffs and then you had them ranked as the sixth best team out of eight it's like well i thought your entire thing was we go as the o-line goes and then you got the number one o-line and you drop them down to six it kind of ruined your gimmick just just keep with that list up please real quick the this is what happened you had them as the number one ranked offensive line that was left, and then you put them at sixth as the team rankings in that entire thing, and then the offensive line said, hey, Kish, we can win games.
Come on. We can win games.
But a lack of offensive line can lose you games. There's one team that you were very worried about, I think, right, offensive line-wise? It's's the Kansas City Chiefs.
Like, very worried about it. Very worried.
I watched the film literally two times through to try and find one good clip that I could put on this show. For the entire game? For the entire game.
And then I had to watch it again. I was like, there's no way.
I just went through a whole game and didn't see one good clip. So how'd they beat the Texans? How is this team the number one seed in the AFC? How is this team the Kansas City Chiefs? So that's

where this thing called an X-Factor comes in.

Sometimes there's one guy that kind of

comes along. There's one guy that

comes along. Who's that?

Your guy's LeBron. My guy's

Jordan, right? This guy's... I've never

cast an official ballot. Just

would like that to be known. I have never...

Big LeBron guy, big Jordan guy.

Big Jordan guy, big LeBron guy.

Hold the phone.

Time to get on the right side of this, brother.

I'm not guessing about they're playing two different sports.

I'm not getting into this argument right now.

LeBron is better.

I watched that last dance thing.

I saw people dribbling like this.

That's all I'm saying.

LeBron couldn't have played back then.

I think he could have.

Now, I think Jordan could have very much played in this era as well. Two different sports.
I don't think we should be comparing anything. But now we come back to this sport.
The number 15's that guy. He's that guy.
He literally runs around. He makes some people miss and he makes a play and then he's got a Hall of Fame tight end that also does his little run around, move back this way and they're always on the same page.
Oh, by the way, on the other side, they got a Hall of Fame defensive tackle, a Hall of Fame defensive coordinator, and maybe the smartest offensive coach in all of them. And potentially Hall of Fame kicker over there in Butker on the run that he's on, Hall of Fame special teams coach in Tobe in this entire thing.
They got a lot of greatness over there, but that's why I don't understand why they let the offensive line get this way. What was it? It was injuries, right? Left tackle, Tooney has to move out there.
That was the biggest thing. The interior three, whenever Tooney's in there, is as good as any interior three in all of football, right? Their tackles, it was an issue from the beginning of the season, and we knew that.
We knew that going into it. They thought they could play some guys into it.
They have not been able to do that. They bring in DJ Humphries.
His knee wasn't quite ready, so they rode with Tooney out to left tackle. They said, hey, listen, we like the continuity with this guy.
He's a Hall of Fame guard, can get it done, and that's what they're going with. Okay, so joining us now is a man who might have an opinion on all of this.
He has passed for over 40,000 yards in the NFL. Nine-time Pro Bowler.
Super Bowl champion. Ladies and gentlemen, a first ballot Hall of Famer whenever it's all said and done.
Five years obviously after it's all said and done. In last year's quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers, ladiesers ladies and gentlemen russell wilson what's up hey what's up how you guys doing dude great thank you i think it's the first time you've ever been on our show so we just want to say thank you man thank you we appreciate you man thanks for having me guys how you guys been hey we're great obviously we're doing our shit you know and uh saying dumb things into a microphone on a regular basis and what we were just talking about there i'd actually like to get your take on this entire thing aq shipley comes on our show every single week throughout the season and you know he kind of like judges offensive lines he was a 12-year nfl offensive lineman won a super bowl you get it short arms was drafted low round belly but he was able to get the job done ain't that right never lost in cia.
Thank you. Got the job done, Super Bowl champion.
Yeah, all those things, much different than me. But he judges the offensive lines every single week.
He thinks the Chiefs, obviously, at this stage of the game, have, because of injuries and everything, the offensive lines could be a question. For you, in your game, offensive line, most important part of this entire thing? Or how do you kind of judge it as a quarterback who's obviously played a lot of incredible football in the NFL yeah I think you know in any game you know in football in particular office line defensive line they set the tone for the games I you know you guys were talking about the Chiefs a little bit obviously I got uh some some playmakers on the defensive line that caused havoc and you know Patrick you know his ability to escape and make plays uh is really what makes something makes him really special you know obviously his unique ability to do that for sure okay so russ cooking is a similar conversation whenever that was being talked about let russ cook let russ cook russ needs to cook i don't think i ever heard you or anybody from around you talk about it what did that mean to you and uh did you view that as a compliment and are we we still in the kitchen? Are we still in the kitchen? Yeah, we're still cooking, but I think the biggest thing is you know, man, it's just, you know, we got playmakers around you always makes it fun.
You know, I think even think about this year, you know, when we were on a hot streak and just some of the guys just making plays, obviously George Pickens is such a freak out there. Pat Frymouth, I thought had a great year.
You know, I think biggest star to this even season even was just calvin austin i think his emergence and his work ethic uh you know those guys allow you to i guess cook in a way um and obviously the guys up front you know they do a great job just battling every play um you know and just giving us a chance to make plays we enjoyed the run with the pittsburgh steelers obviously came to an end earlier than you would have wanted and all the people that are fans of the Pittsburgh Steelers as well. But let's talk about these last couple years, because obviously I think we all viewed you as a Seattle Seahawk for the rest of your life because of everything that happened there, the wins, the success, the eras.
There was different eras. But we also thought Tom Brady was going to be a New England Patriot forever.
We thought Peyton Manning was going to be an Indianapolis Colt forever. We thought Stafford was going to be a Detroit Lion forever.
So this, you know, successful, very good quarterback, late in career, going and finding a new home has become the modern norm. For you, whenever you leave Seattle, go to Denver.
That goes how it goes. Then you go to Pittsburgh.
How has the mindset been going into new places? Do you feel as if you have to re- like kind of earn everybody's trust in the entire building? Or how have you kind of framed it as you had to have new homes here? You know, that's a great question. But I think the biggest thing is that, first of all, I think every year you've got to earn the respect of the guys around you and the love and the passion that you bring to the table.
I think all of that really matters in terms of leadership and playing the game that we love. And, you know, it doesn't matter where we play, you lot or no matter where it is, you earn that respect by how you practice and how you prepare and how you come into the weight room and your mentality to that and just all those different things along the way.
Going into Pittsburgh was a special place for me. I love it, and hopefully I get to play there a lot longer.
It's a special place because of the guys in the locker room and the traditions and the people and the winning and all of that. Plus, you got Mike Tomlin, who's arguably the best coach of all time, one of the top ones.
And just because of who he is and how he motivates us. And, you know, even through the storm, you know, I think that we battled.
And a lot of that was because of Coach Tomlin and who he is and how he makes us prepare. And so, you know, I had the gift of just being in La Trobe this offseason and being around guys like Cam Hayward.
I've always looked up to a guy who's man of the year and a guy who's an all-pro, guys like T.J. Watt.
And yeah, big head. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, gigantic. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, you do not want him to tackle you. That's for sure.
Yeah, of course. But, you know, just guys like T.J.
Watt,

there's so much leadership in that locker room,

guys that are unsung heroes,

and I think that's what makes it special.

So we get to be around guys like that.

It makes it special,

and obviously when you're seeing the towels fly around and all that,

that makes a difference too.

Yeah, I feel like you embraced the Yenzer culture immediately from day one.

I think you had a terrible towel in your opening announcement video that you were going to be there. And I think Pittsburghers appreciated that as a whole.
I also, you talked to Bill Cowher, I think, in a sit down interview. And you said that Mike Tomlin was the first person that called you whenever there was a thought of you becoming a new team's quarterback.
When you talked to him that day, obviously, everybody in the NFL has respect for Tomlin. I don't think I've ever talked to a player that's played in the NFL during a Tomlin era that doesn't absolutely love him but did he kind of lay out what it was going to look like and what was your experience thinking about what your experience was going to be going in and then inevitably what was it actually with the Pittsburgh Steelers yeah well I got that first call from Mike it was just exciting because I've always looked up to him he's a Virginia guy you, you know, so I got, it's got VA in his blood, two up, two down.
I just, it was something that I've always watched being an East coast kid growing up was watching the Pittsburgh Steelers and watching the greatness of the guys before us. And I think a lot of it was, you know, my passion for the game, but also I got to play against them.
You know, I got to play against the Pittsburgh Steelers several times. We played them in, I think 2015 2015.
It was a back-and-forth battle. I had a lot of just watching Big Ben.
We ended up winning the game in Seattle, but it was a great game. We played there before, so I got to meet them several times.
There's just admiration there. We talked about that a lot.
What we really talked about was just the love for the game and the process and the guys. I think I really related to that in a great way.
So, man, to answer your question, I think a big part of it was it's superseded just my expectations of just who the locker room is and the guys and who he is. I mean, this guy gets there super early.
He's there probably 430 in the morning, ready to go watching his film. We meet on, you know, on Wednesdays and Thursdays early at 7 a.m.
And just the detail that he goes through this film is really remarkable uh with you know with with me and the rest of the quarterbacks and everybody else and the leadership group and all that and just how he goes about his business is really you know remarkable um and listen I think that uh we didn't do what we needed to do this year you know obviously you know every you know there's 31 teams that are sitting at home at some point pissed off and uh we're definitely one of those. And it was too early for us.
And so, you know, I think that the big part to it is, is that, you know, you continue to search for greatness every day. You continue to search for the process and the love of it.
And knowing that it's all going to be worth it at some point. And I think that's the mentality you got to have going into it.
Anytime you're sitting in a 7 a.m. meeting with somebody and they told you that they've been up for two and a half hours, it's like, well, you're much more adult than me.
I am very proud. I'm more of a moon guy.
Okay. I'm kind of up a little bit later than you are, but damn, 4.30, you can get a lot of stuff done in those early hours.
And I'm excited to hear that, you know, it was a chatter about love of ball. Cause I think love of ball kind of takes care of everything else the film study the workout the preparation to buy in everything i think it revolves around love of football and we know you're a baseball player as well and everything that's kind of chit-chatted about you in your playing game is can move obviously can shake rattle uh but that moonshot deep ball that you throw is almost like your calling card, I would say.

There's players that are known for things.

There's fighters that are known for different combos.

There's wrestlers that have different finishers.

It feels like you're known for the moonshot deep ball.

I didn't play baseball.

I don't know if there is a correlation of baseball with throwing a moondrop into somebody's lap,

but this is like your thing.

Why do you think this has become your thing, and is this just the most comfortable throw that you have? Yeah, well, I think it's definitely, I've been fortunate that God's given me a gift to be able to throw the ball down the field, you know, and put it where I need to for guys to make a play. I think there's a few things to it.
Number one, I think the guys you have making plays is always everything. I mean, you know, you get to, you know, put the ball up in the air.
Guys like Tyler Lockett, as you saw in that picture, guys like DK, but also, you know, guys like George Pickens, his ability to track the football. Calvin Austin, you saw that this year, his ability to make those plays.
I mean, you're watching George right here, but I think what's interesting is that, like, you know, when you got guys that are great center fielders, you know, guys like Ken Griffey-Jinger, you know, you know, they can track anything when you hit the ball deep down the field. And so I think for me, you know, in terms of the moon ball, it's kind of like watching Steph Curry shoot.
You know, you want to give that high trajectory just to give the guy the best chance and give him a time to track it. And I think that I guess the angle to departure of the ball is always good.
But, you know, I have fun with it, man. It's definitely a strength a strength of the game i think that but it's always the guys around you making the plays that make it even that much more fun yeah certainly some highlight reel catches are possible on deep balls and you've had more than a few of those on the other end but like they say the hoop's bigger up there you know it's it's bigger when it's coming from up there there's some of those throws that we just watched those obviously some this, it's like this thing is dropping down like a punt, basically, in between people.
It's unguardable, D, but it feels like some of these are literally unguardable. Back shoulder, they say, unguardable.
And if it's being dropped from the roof, I feel like that's potentially a tough one to get your hands on. Yeah, it's tough to find it late for DBs.
Like receivers, obviously, got a better job tracking it. A lot of DBs will look back at the quarterback as opposed to up.

Like Reggie Wayne, OG, he was like, hey,

look up, look up, look up, and you can track

it better. But when it's coming in from that trajectory,

dropping it, definitely be tough. Super tough

for DBs. Okay, so let's talk about...

You know a little something about putting, too. It's kind of like

you got those great punt returners

and you saw that video

of Cortland catching that one. But like just,

you know, you got to put it to a place where they can

get it. And I think the big thing, too, is

having that hang time just to make them

Thank you. and you saw that video of Courtland catching that one.
But like just, you know, you got to put it to a place where they can get it. And I think the big thing too is having that hang time just to make them make the play, you know? Hey, did you hear him talking about you maybe not being able to do that anymore because you're old as shit now? You know that.
You've been around so long, right? You've played so long now. Nine-time Pro Bowler, let alone the rest of it.
Nine-time Pro Bowler, let alone everything else you have going on. Three different stops.
But that was one of the conversations during the offseason whenever you were either trying to find a place or it wasn't working out in Denver. They were like, Russ is old now.
This ain't young Russ anymore. This is old Russ.
He's not able to do all this. I assume you heard those things.
Every professional athlete tries to hear and find those things. But did you hear the shit that was being said about you, both, we'll say, professionally, football-wise, and personally, you keep yeah you you you hear it you you uh you know you you hear it around you you feel it sometimes and listen i think that the you know what we do as athletes every time is you know trying to defy odds every day you know i think that's the mentality you got to have i think you know going to never my first year i was banged up quite a bit i had my lap torn and everything else i was battle through it but in the second year i felt great you know i I felt like, you know, going to my first year, I was banged up quite a bit.
I had my lap torn and everything else. I was trying to battle through it.
But in the second year, I felt great. You know, I felt like, you know, going to those games, we, you know, and just battling and just, you know, trying to light it up there in that moment.
And I felt like I played really well. I felt like myself again in my second year.
And then I got the opportunity to play for the Pittsburgh Steelers and be there. And obviously, like I said, this year, you know know it was an exciting year in a lot of ways it was tough at the end obviously we didn't get it done but i got so much more in me man i'm excited uh obviously my goal is to be with the pittsburgh steelers a long time and you know hopefully finish my career there god willing but you know i'm just trusting god in the process but also knowing that you know uh i i've always uh gone against the odds and people you know doubting think that's, that's just a part of my nature.
I don't know if it's a little man syndrome or what, but I just, I love, I love ball, man. I love, I love competing every day and I just love getting after it.
And then anybody who knows me knows that, you know, I'm going to do everything I can to be my best for the longest time possible. Okay.
On that answer. And it's the last one for me before the boys have questions for you, and we can't thank you enough for your time here on this glorious Wednesday.
You talked about, what were you, fourth round? Was it third or fourth round? Oh, third round. Third rounder, okay, but they had just signed Matt Flynn, I think, to a massive deal over there in Seattle.
You talk about defying odds and everything like that. You weren't supposed to be the starter, but I think it was halfway through training camp maybe where pete carroll came out and was like hey we got a guy we got a we really like russell wilson you and pete kind of together seemingly echoed the same exact sentiments his name is now being floated back into head coaching cycles people are saying potentially las vegas raiders for pete carroll what was it like working with pete how would you describe your relationship with Pete? And have you caught up with him since you have left Seattle Seahawks? Yeah, you know, my rookie year, you know, was an amazing moment just because, you know, kind of going in there, and I was third-string quarterback at the time, and just, you know, I just kept my head down and just kept working.
I think, you know, I think the first preseason game we played against the Tennessee Titans. I remember throwing a touchdown at Raylan Edwards.
I ran when my guy Charlie Martin made an unbelievable block and I ran off for a 50 yard touchdown dope in the end zone. That was kind of my first like, okay, you know, and then the second game, I think we played in Denver, you know, played well there.
And then the third game, I got the start against the Chiefs and threw a few touchdowns there. And so it was just like, okay, here we go.
And it was, you know, I had such great players around me. I had such great guys that were competitors, you know.
And, you know, you think about just the players that we had. And so I thought Coach Carroll did a tremendous job of leading us and, you know, pushing us every day to be our best back then.
And I think us players wanted it. You know, we wanted that level of work and attention and that uh kind of defining the odds in a way um and so yeah you know listen i think pete's an amazing football coach i think he's an amazing individual um you know there's i've been fortunate to play for two really special coaches in terms of men and how they think and how they process the game obviously and coach pete carroll and obviously coach mike tomlin are really unique individuals and how they lead and motivate i think they're the culture builders um and so you know i you know i think people you know do a great job wherever he goes i'm not sure exactly where he's looking or whatever but

if he gets the opportunity i know he'll do a great job and you know we've always stayed in touch i

wanted to see him uh in a lot of the other guys you know bobby and the guys uh like doug baldwin

and dk metcalf all that the sherman all those guys when when coach carroll um got let go from seattle

I'll see you next time. of the other guys you know bobby and the guys uh like doug baldwin and dk metcalf all that sherman all those guys when when coach carroll um got let go from seattle you know we we spent a lot of time there and we flew back in and just spent a lot of time with him and just we have you know memories i said you know it's funny because i said you know if sherman and i could be in the same room it's always a good thing you know yes yeah i could you know but you know we we were just all competitors man we love playing ball we love winning we love pushing in and i think he always did a good job of that i'm happy to hear that you guys went back there had a little reunion you know to celebrate the times that you all had up there in seattle it was a special era up there man especially with that stadium rocking i i don't want to break this news to you because you might not know this i guess that stadium stadium is gettable now.
Other teams' fans are coming in there and getting it. Oh, no.
Yeah, I know. I know that's not you.
Yeah, because that place is special. I think that when it was named CenturyLink, it was a certain vibe to it.
I don't know. I'm not sure if they need to go back to CenturyLink.
Who knows? But it was a special place. Obviously, just the guys that we had and the competitors was always unique in itself.
Yeah, it was fun to watch you guys. Legit, it was fun to watch those teams.
And if Pete Carroll's back chewing his gum on the sideline, I'm in. You know, I'm in.
The energy, the massive Monarchs, you know, just walking, doing his thing. Throwing.
Yeah, throwing warm-ups, spinning it. I mean, absolutely i mean absolutely spinning it i hope that's the case hey the boys have some questions for you is that okay russ yeah of course of course yeah talking about you being an old-ass dude now ty has a question for you yeah russ as a packers fan uh you know a lot of a lot of sleepless nights that you delivered to me when i was a little bit younger because it seemed like a lot of times hey you know third and eight third nine boom Russ is going to pick up 16 with his legs now obviously you've gotten older you mentioned it and not to say that you can't do that stuff anymore but you were such a dynamic athlete early in your career picking up all those first downs with your legs how have you kind of realized you've had to change as a quarterback as you've gotten older and maybe realizing like okay these guys actually have a step on me now whereas when I was a younger player in the league I could very easily pick up those you know third and longs with my legs yeah you know I can still run I can still you know get up and uh and get up and go but I think that as you continue to evolve you know I try to facilitate the ball to ball to the right guys at the right time and guys getting it to them in the air as much as possible, letting them do their thing.
And then when it's time, you know, using your legs, you know, and I think that's a big part of the game, you know, and obviously my ability to get outside and naked and, you know, play action and boom, that's always been a huge part and still is. And the part that I feel like I still do extremely well, I think, you know, you try not to spin out and do crazy stuff all the time.
But, you know, when you need it and you got to do it, you know, I think I go back to the Cleveland Browns game was fourth and sixth this year. And it was a torrential, just the downpouring of snow.
Great blizzard. Great blizzard.
Yeah, and I just kind of spun out and went left. And we had to have it.
And I ended up hitting Pat for a big first down. He made a great play, and I just remember Myles Garrett just rocking me right there in that moment.
But just, you know, those things, you know, I'm still capable of doing. I think that we got playmakers around you, though.
You know, you try to get it to them so they can make those plays as much as possible. Point guard.
You know, I'm always working on my speed. You know, I think that's a big part of offseason is make sure that I I can still get up to 19 20 miles an hour and still feel good about it Oh, yeah, so your ass day after season ended doing this one right here It's going to look good doing that, you know, it's like not bad Hey, I've been working working on a little bit a little bit of balance.
Uh, are we doing any more baseball? I remember we see baseball, you know, I'm playing baseball my son, you know know future he's he's got a chance he's got a real real chance so i was my son future and when when's when's four years old but he's he you know i think he may be a shortstop for the yankees one day i got future over here was actually playing for the major league 10 year old to 12 year old yankees so you know i don't know i need to call derrick jeter and get some tips for that from him uh playing shortstop but i i think he's got a chance a chance. He's got a good swing.
He's got a home run power swing. He's got some speed to him.
He's got a good arm. That's the baseball I'm playing right now.
It's fun, though. Yeah, visualize through the entire thing because Ty, who's a Yankees fan, just noted.
Yeah, Russ, the Yanks don't have a second baseman right now going into this year. Listen, listen, I understand you still want to play quarterback.
Yeah, free agent, though. But, hey, maybe it's something to think about.
I turn a mean double play. I'm just saying I still can't.
They need that. They had most errors in second base in the majors last year.
Hey, listen, can we talk about this finally? Because every time you do this training camp thing, every time, or whatever it's called, what do you guys call it? Spring training. There it is.
Spring training. I don't know baseball.
Same thing. I apologize, Russ.
I don't know baseball well enough. I do have respect for the fact, though, that the Yankees are the Yankees, and they're the ones that are having you at spring training.
It's not like every human is allowed to just come do. You're a good player, like good baseball player, and can you hit a curveball? Isn't that the big difference? Tim Tebow, right? Yeah, the ability to hit the curveball is always everything.
know the thing is it takes so many reps you know i think baseball is one of those but it's kind of like golf a little bit i don't know pat if you can play golf at all but you know if you yeah it's one of those things that your ability to hit you know something that's coming at 90 97 98 miles an hour and then also the ability to at any point they break it off i think that ability to do that so you know i could i could hit for sure but you know i i need to spend more time on baseball i'm glad i decided to do football god just kind of said hey let's come over here and just do this but um it's been um it's been fun i love baseball man it's it's it's uh just being able to you know play and just it's you know i think it's you know god created baseball for everybody to enjoy you know my some of my favorite times were just you know um being on being on the baseball field in my in my in my young years were you sunflower seeds guy i was a sunflower you know i i'm a sunflower seeds guy but i chew all the sunflowers i don't if you know everybody breaks one at a time i'm kind of one of those guys just like you know it's almost like if i had chew in that's that's me i don't You know, I'm sure I'm sure you and just like, you know, it's almost like if I had chew in, that's me. I don't chew.
You know, I'm sure you and the boys do. No, no.
I am not a tobacco guy. Actually, tobacco, nicotine, the only thing that really spent, all the other things I'm okay with.
My body does well. All the other things.
All the other things. Yeah, we all know there's a list of them.
There's a plethora of them. You know, the forest is where I like to remain mostly you know that's where but all the other ones you know had nicotine and tobacco just kind of it sent me into the into the whirly birds way too much i'm not doing this you know i had to do like a leg on the ground oh yeah on the bed yeah we don't want you punting we don't want you punting with a little swirly in your head but i did booze pretty good did booze pretty good whenever I was punting I don't do as much.
Do you never you you're not real?

You'll have a boy. I try to be you know clean as possible for me

I'm not I'm not I'm not in the forest like you as much

You let me know I'm assuming there's a lot of people that have that offer on the table for you. Would love to smoke with Russell Wilson.
Seattle, Denver, Marshawn. Those are great.
Those are great stakes for the entire thing. You'd have to take the trip back, obviously, just like when Pete Carroll.
Yeah. You know, you head out to the – D-Bud has a question for you, Russ.
Yeah, that's probably the reason you hit the ground running. As a rookie, you came in and set a passer rating record.
Threw for 26 touchdown. I think that was a record as well went to the divisional round uh what's your thoughts on what jayden daniel was able to do out there this season and now during his playoff run and i know you spent some time with dan quinn in seattle thoughts on him as a head coach leading that organization to their next uh chapter man that's a great question first of all you got to play jay daniel's this year and the commanders and guys like Bobby, you know, I got to go against, man.
Just a guy I truly admire and just going against him and calling plays against him was fun this year. And it was a battle.
It was a great game. It went down to the wire and it was back and forth, back and forth.
And, you know, Jaden was a special player that day. He was also special throughout the whole season.
I think, you know, he's got a great demeanor to him. You know, he's got great poise.
I think that anytime you're looking at a quarterback, you know, through the highs and lows of the season, do they remain the same? You know, do they remain the same? Do they stay confident in the midst of it all? What are their practice habits? You know, can they make plays in certain moments? The games online, do you believe that they're going to make the play no matter what the

circumstances are?

Do you believe that, hey, when they're down and, you know,

at the half or whatever, do you believe that they can bring it back?

And I think that's,

those are the hit factors and the things that you got to believe.

And I think Jayden does a great job of that.

You know, I got to be around him some last off season and everything else.

And, and, and he just got a cool demeanor to him.

He's obviously confident.

And, you know, I had a lot of respect for him when we played him and he he's going to have a great career for sure. Going back to your Dan Quinn question, though, he's just, you know, he's one of those all-time great motivators, you know.
You know, him and an interesting story, you know, Mike Tomlin and Dan Quinn were actually, you know, boys for a long time. You know, we married VMI.
Coach Tomlin was telling me that during the season when we were about to play those guys. I've always stayed close to Coach Quinn.
I think he's a tremendous individual. He's a guy who gets there early as well.
He's this guy who's dedicated to his players. He's a tremendous teacher.
I think all the great coaches are great teachers. There's some photos coming out of Quinn back from college and high school.
Oh, man. Yeah, meet it.
Yeah, staff. He might have had the tobacco.
Yeah, horseshoe. Yeah, he might have had the tabacchi.
Maybe, maybe. Yeah, that head, too.
I mean, he was. You know, backwards hat Dan Quinn has been awesome to watch.
And they certainly. Look at this guy.
That's Dan? That's Dan. Nuke.
What? There has been a habit in that right side of that face before. No, I've seen it.
I know it for sure. Dog.
Dog. Absolutely.
I think he has some record in track and field there at salisbury state and then obviously his football photos are hilarious as well and now he's flipped an entire franchise like that overnight with new ownership and they're obviously happy uh speaking of being happy a man who's been a diehard steelers fan his entire life let's head to hammer time time ap tone yeah russell first and foremost thank you so much for everything you did for the city this year, especially the Children's Hospital. I know that means a lot to the injured, so we really appreciate that.
But you talked about wanting to finish your career with the Steelers. Has there been any talks with Omar or Coach Tomlin about that yet? And if you do, how much do you think, you know, second year with Arthur, second year with all the weapons, how much do you think development like that can help next year yeah man that's a great question first of all uh man the kids in children's hospital they have a great children's hospital there in pittsburgh um obviously the people there are unbelievable and it's really about the nurses and doctors and and what they what they do for for everyone man it's uh it's really special um just i've been fortunate to meet so many kids over the years and that's kind of my tuesday uh just kind of you know just thanking god just for the opportunity to try to be an influence and impact and uh those days are like some of my favorite days that and sundays you know just for the best but uh you know i think first of all um yes we have been starting to talk a little bit obviously and you know, we've had our, you know, our meetings and everything else and kind of just getting into it.
So I think that it's an exciting time. I think, obviously, to be a Pittsburgh Steeler and the opportunity of what we what we can do.
But I think at the same time, you know, I think that, you know, Omar and Coach Tomlin, man, just I really love those guys and who they are and the team that they put together and the team that we can put together. And so I think that's a big part of it.
And I think, as you mentioned, I think any time you go into any offense, I think always that first year, second year, third year, those years together always make a difference and grow. I think you think about some of the all-time great guys, you guys like Tom Brady you know, obviously Peyton Manning, they've been in systems for a little while.
I think that always helps too. And so, you know, I got a lot of respect for Arthur, who he is, and as a teacher, as a coach, you know, and a competitor as well.
We spend a lot of time on Fridays together and all that. But, yeah, I'm really excited about the opportunity of being in Pittsburgh, hopefully longer, and just, you know, like I said, I'm always trusting God in the process.
You like Arthur? Oh, yeah, I like Arthur. I think everybody trusts him.
Hey, there's reports you hate him. Anytime you lose a game or two or whatever it goes on, people always try to tear things down.
I think Arthur's just a great coach. I think obviously he's a guy who has been a head coach, you know,

and we love trying to find ways to, you know, compete every day

and just get better.

So, you know, he's a great coach.

I didn't even think about last year.

You didn't even have a chance to do training camp because you hit a sled too hard.

What do we not know about this story?

Because when it came out, I'm going to let you know,

Tone and all the answers were like, what are we doing?

Oh, no.

We lose our quarterback because of a sled drill in his entire thing. What happened? You were full pads? Who was standing on? We were just pushing this heavy sled as fast as we could and whatever, and just doing this, this, you know, workout testing thing we were doing.
And it was unfortunate, but you know, I think the best thing that during that time period, it was, it was ironically for me because you're going into latrobe and you know i'm sure you guys have been out there before but you know going out there was was a special time because we had to sit you know at late at night and just sit with the fellas and play uno and and have some good times chopping up with the guys and then you know early in the mornings and you know i get in the pool and work out quite a bit and, lift and everything else and do whatever I could do. And, and just being with the guys in the training room and just guys like Gabe and Dino, and there's special people, you know, in that building and players as well.
And just, you know, I think sometimes we go through as players, we're so competitive. We always want to be out there, but there's so many things to learn, even, even when you're, even when you're down and out for a bit and so i i i was able to learn the guys a lot and i think probably my favorite part of the season was just you know just the whole offensive dinners you know taking the guys out every thursday and watching thursday night football and just laughing having a good time um and and just you know you know breaking bread together so those moments i think even when i was injured just being able to grasp you know uh the playbook and you grasp the time with the guys and then still finding my work in the day you know even if i was hobbling around the first couple days it's like okay let's let's still work we're never not doing something and i think that's kind of always been my mentality of of the process yeah getting better every day that's russell wilson baby that's a i want to let you know of your brand.
Because remember, we heard the flight. You did the high knees during the flight over to England.
Remember? You know, listen, I think every player in the national football game, any NBA guy, they're always moving on the plane. I think they drew that out of proportion.
Oh, no! What? No! I heard you were ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Maybe not that much movement but you're you know close to it but i think that uh you know i think it's part of uh being a pro is always you know you know being able to move and keep your body fluid especially you're on a 10-hour flight but you know it's all right i'll take the memes i don't mind you know you did get murdered i mean that one. That one was a murder scene.
Yeah, but it's all like for good reason. Works too hard.
Yeah, exactly. Cares too much.
And I think everybody just assumes it's fake. Same thing happened with Tim Tebow.
We met Tim Tebow, and I was in the era of Tim Tebow. I think we all kind of were.
And it was like, there's no way this is who this guy is. There's no way this is how they're portraying him.
I don't think it's your fault that the entire world portrays you in one particular way and media and everything pushes a lot of the shit that you do. Just like I didn't think it was Tim Tebow's fault that everybody was pushing it.
But in everybody's natural reaction is this can't be how this person is. Then we meet Tim Tebow and it was like, I'll be damned.
This guy, this guy's really like that. Is that kind of, you think how people, because I feel like the image in which we have of you works too hard, cares too much, always there, always ready, preparing all the time.
Like everything that is projected publicly about you, once again, not your fault. This is how they're talking about an NFL quarterback who's very good at his job.
He's like perfect human. Is it hard to kind of live up to the hype of like a guy who's like a perfect NFLfl quarterback and has that weighed on you at all throughout the entire process of your celebrity and fame in this entire thing i i think that you know every you know um you know whenever you're trying to be great at anything i think there's a process i think it goes through this whole process where you're kind of starting i was a third round pick 70 overall i had to do everything I could possibly could to be great I had to do everything I could to to be on my stuff you know at the time there wasn't that many african-american quarterbacks there definitely wasn't many short quarterbacks in the league at the time uh there was only a few of us at the time and you know there felt like there was a responsibility for me to play the game and process and do things at the highest level um and and to also you know try to you know continue to create opportunities that others had created for me you know and i think that's a big thing to me it matters to me you know and how we go about how we become a professional and how you learn from others i remember guys like leon washington that i got to learn from and how he processed how he took care of his body how he took care of his mind and it was a it was a 365 24 7 thing and it was not it was an obsession with it and i i got to be around some greats that that did that and and that mattered to me and it always has mattered to me my dad my brother they showed me that um and that was important to me but i think a big part of it too is is that i think anytime you're you're um i'm a positive guy by by nature.
I think that's me. I try to be uplifting.
I try to, you know, speak life into every situation. You know, I always say that, you know, it says in the Bible that the power of life and death is in the tongue.
So what you say matters, how you impact others, how you encourage. When I walk into a room, I want to speak life into every situation.
When I'm on the field and we're down, you know, in 21-0 and a nothing and a half can we come back let's go here's how we do it and just that's who i am and i'm not going to change for anybody because that's that's that's who god created me to be but i think a big part of it too is is also understanding that um you know i i i think just being consistent in who you are no matter how you are no matter what you go about it i think that's that's an important thing that people can trust and believe in and i think so for me um you know i when my dad was on his deathbed you know uh you know i think a lot of it for me was understanding that you know when he passed away i remember the next morning just kind of hearing a you know the sun still comes up in the morning and that was that kind of changed my perspective of life in a big way because i knew that you know no matter what we go through in life we all go through challenges we all go through you know circumstances and everything we have the obligation opportunity um especially when you got you know the football in your hand you're one of 32 guys in the world why would i be any other way you know why would i be negative why would i bring others down i just want to lift other people up and i think that's something that i i really take pride in and and it matters to me to do do that and um i think god's given me a gift to play the game of football he's giving me big hands and a billion throw moon ball you know i'm trying to punt it throw it high as as high and possible as you point in there um but uh it's it matters to me and i think that's that's just uh the obligation that i have to Yeah, I think you should take pride in that, brother. Hey, that was beautiful.
That was absolutely beautiful. We need more yous in the world, not less of you and I think all anybody wants anybody to be, especially who's in a public position is be who you say you are.
You know, we just heard Terry McLaurin say that to his teammates before they wouldn't upset the Lions be who you say you are I think you have done that and uh I think some people just find it hard to believe because there's not a lot of yous out there brother and uh on that point I think I heard that on Monday uh you and Sierra were literally in LA I think giving diapers to babies and stuff like that after the fires it's like uh you talk about 24-7 being a professional it feels like you and your family 24 7 365 try to like make the most of everything and try to try to do everything thank you for doing this legitimately and what was the group you were working with on monday yeah you know um it's been really cool you know sarah's on the board of baby to baby and uh we wanted to make a difference in la obviously everything has been so sad man yeah seeing so many people lose their homes you know you you know we think about it you know you come home and it's where you bring your baby home your first time it's where you know uh life happens this and that and you know all the memories that people share share and cherish a lot of those are lost and um you know it's hard to get ever get that back and so you know for me it was uh for me and see was just really just trying to make a difference our youngest daughter sienna uh not our youngest daughter but our young daughter sienna she she's seven and she was like let's make a difference and we really wanted to and so we all kind of got together me and sierra and sienna and future we all drove up to la and just um we partnered up with baby to baby and you know our foundation does a lot of stuff with them too. We wanted to do more with them.
And, um, and so it's been a cool process and what they're doing baby to baby is really, really amazing. Uh, they're doing some really, really cool things.
And so what we were able to do was just go into a warehouse, pack a bunch of stuff, a bunch of, you know, things for survival kits, essentially in a way, uh, for people. And, uh, just, there were so many great individuals and so much great leadership with baby the baby and you know we're excited with our foundation to be able to do more stuff with them hopefully why don't you foundation and stuff but um and and then i you know i did this real cool thing with uh fanatics i'm excited about too that um you know the fanatics seemed to i got to meet this guy who his son plays tight end for a cow and just a really really good african- dude who's tall like dad's like six seven i don't know how big he is but got to meet him and he uh surprised him with fanatics and uh gave him a stealer's jersey uh he's a huge stealer's fan you know he lost a lot of his memorabilia and the fires and so i gave him a stealer's jersey and then and then uh his son uh we're doing something pretty cool where he's going to get his own trading card.
And we're going to try to raise money around that stuff. So that was really cool, too.
But just I think that it's making a difference and everybody coming together. Yeah.
Hey, shout out to Ruben, too. Let's go.
I like that out here. Let's focus on that.
Let's focus on that. And Russ, thank you for making the world a better place, man.
And thank you for waking up every day trying to be a positive influence on it because I know you get shit on a lot because of it So the fact that you just in the face of all that continue to do that It's a beautiful thing and I asked rich Paul this I asked Travis this I'll ask you this Are you hoping write any songs or should songs or are we... Nah, I'm staying

away from writing songs.

I see you dancing.

I don't know if you're going to give any...

Yeah, after we beat the Commanders, I hit them with

the A-B.

Put that shit on.

We appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen.

Future Hall of Famer, Russell Wilson.

Hey, Russ.

That was cool of him. That was a long time.
I don't think you're supposed to be on that time that was awesome good dude it's a good chat that answer was incredible yeah i had to get to it somehow i didn't know how we're gonna get there but at some point we have to be up like hey nobody thinks you are basically and him giving that answer i just choose you know and when my dad was on his deathbed he said hey son's gonna come up or whatever it's like i mean i guess he has it's good message yeah this guy yeah perspective yeah legit and he said the power of the tongue which i i had heard that be said before but it is interesting how you say things what you say when you choose to say things so powerful in other people's lives and your life in the world that we're in right now absolutely man so everything he said especially that answer you, everybody should live that way because when you talk about even your own life, your own life, whatever situation you got going on, the more negatively you speak about it, more than likely it's going to start to go that way. Wake up, hey.
It's going to be a good thing. Lucky to be here.
Say something nice to somebody. It might change your life.
Yeah. Let's do no shit.
Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice.
It might change your life. It might change the direction of everything.
There was a documentary I think I saw onflix about how like actually putting out positive vibes oh yeah scientifically in return you should be able to yeah i think that was it or whatever i couldn't make it all the way through you know because i'm like all right because i do try to be as positive as possible but when there's like it's a scientific proof that it was in there i'm like all right i don't need to watch the next hour i heard that's all i need yeah i believe you it's in the bible i believe you i'm gonna move forward what an interesting time to be alive shout out to russell willison tone real quick yeah we got 30 seconds you want him back at the steelers or how how's pittsburgh feel uh it feels like the tea leaves are leaning towards justin but no i think the second year under rus would be good like we talked about it with arthur and all those weapons no i wouldn't mind rust back and i was saying, like, you know, I didn't even get training camp here. Give me two years with Arthur, three years here.
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But TaxAct can help you get them done. act let's get them over with it's wonderful we're lucky to talk about it every single day we just got done chatting with russell wilson for the first time i saw him one time outside of super bowl radio row during covid so there was a lot of uh social distancing going on he made it a point to uh break through the group of people that were kind of separating him from the group of people that were separating us while we were walking you know don't look at each other don't look at each other don't breathe the same air nobody two muscle sunglasses eyes down wear a hat too the fucking hair follicles can covet it don't let the hair follicles covet it okay the whole thing that's what it was especially with russell wilson i think at the time he was up for some award of probably walter payton whatever it was in la there it is yeah he was winning walter payment so we're doing this entire thing he sees through he is not the tallest guy certainly tall in real life but in football you know vastly different looks through breaks through shakes hand shakes fox he's on i believe yep chit chats with us quickly about our show and then i tell him like hey we're gonna put a request in at some point for you to come on the show feel free to turn us down like it is completely people turn us down all the time we don't hate you if you turn it down it's all good we understand how it all goes he goes we'll love to get on and catch up or whatever and then it has been able to happen and then now boom we have him on that was a great conversation i'm thankful he stopped by i think he talked about a lot of things that a lot of people have questions about.
Didn't ask about Mr. Unlimited.
But I think he addressed it in one of his answers somewhere in there, at least at some point. And we're appreciative of him.
Talks to Tim was here at Boss Conner, at Ty Schmidt. Could certainly let your jokes fly about Russell Wilson over time.
I think he did a great job sitting in the pocket right there. Without a doubt.
And I certainly have let my jokes fly about Russell Wilson several times in the past. But it is.
I mean, you hit the nail on the head with the Tim Tebow stuff. When we first met him at Radio Row, it's very easy to be like, this guy's full of shit.
There's no way any human being could be like this all the time. But there are a handful of people in the world that what you see is what you get like legitimately at all times tebow is that way and it's pretty evident to see that russell wilson is probably that way because like you said too like it'd be very easy to just turn negative when you're doing all these good things for people and like being a very positive impact on our world and you just immediately get shit for it.
Like people just, this guy sucks.

He's full of shit.

That's... for people and like being a very positive impact on our world and you just immediately get shit for it like people just this guy sucks he's full of shit that's not real and he just continues to do it and continues to show up and then the football the football stuff is secondary like you know like you said he's gonna be a first ballot hall of famer probably but anymore it's just like he just gets killed for how he plays whether it's good whether it's bad like very few people are indifferent about russell wilson and over the last several years it seems like he's become more of a punchline than he probably deserves to be well and then he had a couple lines in there and told him hey he's okay not remembering the denver times sure no doubt there's a couple things in there i think he was alluding i think he puts massive respect on people that show up early because multiple times when he was complimenting somebody guy gets in there early this guy gets in there early because i think those uh super i assume russell wilson falls in his category those super high operating humans yeah you know there's some of them billionaires that are nocturnal those are more the artists creatives the whole of that the high operating business people normally early alarm clock and they they don't mind telling you about it too yeah and their schedules are every day this is what we do boom boom boom you can tell that russell wilson puts high respect on the people that have that because people that do that i think there's other traits that are about them okay these are very well organized very thoughtful we very all no stone unturned very focused very body like that's how those people view it and the only reason why i know that is because i'm not one of those people and i get to do business with those people and whenever they send over a time for us to talk and i respond ha how about 1 30 a.m instead you know whenever they're doing that number i've tried tried to joust, you know, with these people a little bit.

But they very much believe in that waking up an hour and a half, two hours earlier than every other person on earth.

You have, now you have a 20-hour day or an 18-hour, 19-hour day where everybody else has this thing.

Russell Wilson, once again, is who he says he is every single day.

He did not talk about Denver at all in there, though.

No, he didn't.

Understandably so.

So Sean gets there late? Is Sean a night guy? He must be. Well, yeah.
Sounded like it a few times. He must be.
And I think Nate Hackett, he'd get in there at 3.30, but then he was playing Minesweeper for four hours. He wasn't really...
I'm here at NFL Vet. Darius J Butler is here.
D-Bunch, how you doing, man? Obviously, Minesweeper's great great. You get lost in there, too.
You can really start clicking. You know, whenever they have the number, that was a good game.
It was. Tough enough, but also easy enough if you wanted it to be.
Yes. Yeah, it was a good game.
Felt like a genius, too, whenever you beat it. Oh, yeah.
Like, I'm so smart. I ain't fucking lead a war.
You know, if I had to do that that entirety so maybe hackett did think that was a good part about getting better what did you learn there from russell wilson uh he is who he says he is i think so yeah you know and and you can see why you know a lot of people obviously shit on him you know for the most recent years of his career but he's had a long very very very good career from the beginning like he came out with the andrew luck in the rg3 class, but he went to the division around as a rookie. He, you know, threw a bunch of touchdowns.
He had a great defense, had a good running game, but he fit right into that culture. And as you mentioned, usually when you bring a free agent over and you pay him, like, you're going to at least give that guy that year.
And for him to win that job as a rookie and just kind of taking, you know, obviously he has a chip on the shoulder. He has a hell of a perspective on life.
So I became a bigger fan of Russell Wilson after the day for sure. Here's some stats that we pulled before he came on.
Career passing yards, over 40,000. Touchdown passes, he has over 300 career passing touchdowns.
He currently ranks fifth all-time in career passer rating. He has over 5,000 career rushing yards, over 20 career rushing touchdowns, nine playoff wins, including a Super Bowl, obviously, 25 postseason passing touchdowns plus, and then obviously he won a Super Bowl and a 43-8 win over the Denver Broncos.
It's like he has had a pretty good career. Yeah, Peyton Manning's Denver Broncos, too.
Yeah, and that was whenever the Legion of Boom knew all the signals. Yes.
Locked in. They knew exactly what was coming for every single play.
What a genius performance by that Seattle Seahawks defense, which is a big part of the conversation about the Seahawks in total. Who goes where, who stays, who's getting treatment, who's not getting treatment.
So him saying that whenever Pete Carroll gets let go and they all go back and they're hanging out, that's a beautiful thing to hear because you guys were a fun team to watch over here. That was a fun team to watch all together.
12-year NFL Vets Super Bowl champion AQ Shipley is here. AQ, I know you wanted us to chit-chat about some of his offensive linemen.
Feels like the time kind of got away from it, but he takes the boys out every Thursday night. I learned something from that as well.
That was cool to hear. I mean, we've heard so many stories of him not being one of the guys and the fact that he took the boys out to dinner.
That's a a that's a huge deal that's a staple deal that is a staple of quarterbacks and o-linemen getting together thursday night eating watching the game that's a pretty cool deal some of the o-linemen are boozing sure why yeah some of them you know because we know the quarterbacks got the credit card here too yeah this isn't a credit card roulette situation this is uh one guy's doing this whole thing so yeah we'll have that uh we'll have, Jack. That's right.
Thank you so much. You guys have 32 on? Gentlemen.
You guys got Louie? You don't have Louie here. All right.
Normally I drink Louie the 13th. Normally.
Yeah, but I guess I'll just do Jack here, I guess. Yeah, is this gentleman Jack here? And then some of the boys have a good time.
Then you start talking about families. Then you start talking about other things.
That's where the camaraderie really grows. That's where it comes to go.
Him not having a half a season, basically, or five, six games, whatever it was, because Justin Fields was playing so well, and they were winning games. And then him not having training camp because of the sled push thing.
It's like, I feel like he feels like they probably stumbled out of the gates, didn't get a full opportunity. He's a free agent.
We'll see how it goes. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who just won a national championship.
Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, a guy who has a tree on the Ohio State University campus.
The all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, Super Bowl champion, A.J. Hawke.
Hawker, how you doing, buddy? I'm doing great. I appreciate it, but I did not win a national championship.
I did nothing for anything on the field. I just supported from the sidelines like all the great fans.

No, you're a Buckeye.

The coaches and the boys.

Coaches and the boys won, but you guys, you won.

You won the national championship.

You're a Buckeye.

Oh, yeah.

I say we.

I say we for Ohio State, of course.

Yeah, win or lose, I say we.

Okay, so you won the national championship.

We did it.

Yeah, we did it.

Boom.

What did you do?

We won a national championship.

Okay. Congratulations, Joe.
You're going to have taken out the last minute of semantics in that entire thing. How is the state of Ohio? Is everybody feeling a little bit lifted? Is everybody kind of just hovering around? Is everybody feeling alive over there in the Buckeye State? Yeah, it does seem like people are pretty excited.
I believe the national championship trophy is on display for two or three hours at a local grocery store somewhere right now. I think it's happening.
Yeah. People are excited.
I think they're going to eventually have some kind of celebration for them. Hopefully it gets above, you know, zero outside so people can enjoy it, but yeah, things are good here.
Okay. So parade, would there be a parade for these types of things? I don't think I know how college ball works in Ohio feels this is a parade-able situation, especially because the setup in town is already kind of a parade route whenever the players walk to the field and everything like that.
But it's so damn cold, that's probably holding things up. No, I mean, I think they're just getting things set up.
I don't think there's a parade. There may be a parade.
I know at least after my freshman year, we won the national championship. We had a huge thing at the stadium where basically almost probably 85,000 people showed up in negative 20-degree weather for us to walk around the stage and see Grant, a great linebacker who was his backup.
He sang Carmen Ohio. It was a special moment.
I would assume it's something like that at the stadium, but I honestly have no idea. Okay.
And don't you guys do the skull sessions or whatever in the arena right near there? Yeah, St. John Arena, the old basketball arena.
It's an awesome place, but that doesn't seat enough people, man. I think that's only like 5,000, 6,000.
Okay, so is that normal for national championships? I don't think I fully know. I think, right? What did Michigan do last year? Did they do anything? I don't know if they did buses through Ann Arbor.
I don't remember. I don't think parades are that kind.
That's what I just assumed was either you do it in the stadium

or they do it in the basketball arena.

But people do it in the stadium?

I don't think I – I don't know.

I could see you doing the basketball arena.

The main – the Schottenstein Center, the main basketball arena,

seats like 18.

You could do it there.

Yeah, but I'm saying is it normal for college national champions

to do a ceremony?

I think so.

There's like a celebration?

Yeah.

Okay, sweet.

What did Michigan do last year?

Well, that's the thing is that – Michigan did a parade I'm getting from the back. Yeah, they went through town.
Okay. That'd be sweet.
That is a sick shot with those buildings. You could tell you're on a university campus.
Kind of old school. Yeah, I don't think that's super common.
Like a parade? Yeah, I don't think so. Yeah, because Super Bowl, a parade is happening.
Yeah. A happening, then there's a stage at the end.
National championship, I don't think I know what is. I guess this would be it.
Okay, so Ohio State, we assume will do something big. Even though it's cold as shit.
Colder than it's been in a long time. Hey, they got snow down there in a bayou.
Like real storm. Real snow down there.
You just wait for it to melt, I guess? Yeah, there's no way they're prepared i mean this is obviously the home is super bowl in two and a half weeks right now and there's no way they have anywhere near the amount of salt or plows or anything that you would need for an actual snowstorm to come through there because why would anybody clear a budget that has all of that shit in it whenever it very very rarely would ever happen and it's like we got snow there cold there, cold there, this here, cold here. It's like, what's going on? Is this just an abnormal winter? Global warming.
You don't believe in that. Global warming.
I was D.C. A.Q.
Do you have any other sentences? No, it's just what I've heard. That's what I've been reading.
Okay, so you see that and then you just period. You don't do any more research? No, that's it.
Al Gore. Okay, well, thank you for doing that.
Thank you, AQ. Thank you, AQ.
AJ did have a question about Monday. We didn't see you down at the national championship.
What was that, AQ? Yeah, I thought I saw some clips of you. Were you on a bus with Logan Paul, Theo Vaughn, and those guys? No, I didn't make that bus.
I didn't make that bus. He was on Elon's telling him what to do on stage.
Yeah, hey, here's a good hand bushing. Oh, no.
This is good audible to what you give. Is that right? Is that what you were doing? Nope, I was at home with the kids.
I've watched that a few more. Kids were on school that day.
I've watched that a few more times. Keeps popping up.
I mean, I don't know how that's. I don't know if he was grabbing his heart.
It doesn't feel like he was throwing his heart from what you told me. Just so, I mean, the form is pretty, I mean, pretty.

Seen that form before.

Yeah, that's what I'm.

Back to back.

That's a war.

That was scary.

He's a goober, they're saying.

Yeah, yeah.

He's a goober.

He's been a billionaire like five times.

You have to have some sort of awareness that that is something.

You'd think.

What if he shows up with a mustache?

Yeah.

It's going to be like, yo, yo. Come over.
He's going to be like, I didn't know. I didn't know.
New haircut? That was wild. I'm telling you, the more I see, I'm like, man.
All right. Without sound, it's even more, obviously, where he's talking about thanking everybody and everything like that.
But I don't know. All right, let's talk about some breaking news in the NFL.
I mean, that was just like... You just can't be doing it.
You just can't be doing it. Some things you can't.
That feels like that thing everybody kind of knows. And then, boy, they're matching up with some other videos.
They're like, but they're not saying my heart out to you in the videos. It's like, okay.
All right. Agreed.
Sure. Agreed.
They're not... Boy, that looked pretty...
So is everybody then? Yeah, I don't... Yeah, and then I see other see other photos of people i'm like how many people have been doing it it is a uh are all of them and then i started looking i see photos of me people are putting photos up of me a point somewhere and it's like whoa whoa whoa wait a minute wait whoa i'm pointing yeah i'm pointing over there it's like whoa the internet the internet's going to do.
But, boy, when you do that, I think there's going to be a reaction. All right, KOC has signed a multi-year blockbuster extension with the Minnesota Vikings, AJ Hawk.
Now, what does blockbuster mean? We assume that means it's a big number. The reports are that Ben Johnson signed for 13th.
Sold. That's what the Lions fans are saying.
Yeah, he sold out. Yeah.
13 million a year, allegedly, for the Chicago Bears. He's never been a head coach before.
Obviously, he's had multiple opportunities to become a head coach, and he was the bell of the ball. But if the reports are accurate about him getting 13 million a year and never winning a game as a head coach, and Kevin O'Connell was up for renegotiation, and Kevin O'Connell has done a very good job with the Minnesota Vikings and obviously won a lot of games and coached his ass off.
We assumed he was going to be worth a lot of money. Sounds like that is the case.
They will also be turning their attention now to Kwasi, who's the general manager, to give him an extension as well. So status quo will remain in Minnesota, which I think is a good thing because of how successful they've been over the last couple years.
Obviously, the question mark still remains about the future of the quarterback position. I assume they'll be able to figure that out.
And one of the reasons why they gave KOC this blockbuster deal is because he can make quarterbacks good, is the expectation and the thought. Good for the Vikings, I think, AJ.
And the NFC North remains dominant, it appears, for at least the foreseeable future. Yeah, doesn't this feel like it had to be an absolute no-brainer? I would assume they paid him more than $13 mil guaranteed a year, but look around, look at all the teams that are constantly going through coaches, trying to find a good coach.
We talk about it a lot on this show, how difficult it really is to be a head coach in the NFL and to be successful. With all the things KOC's had thrown at him, as far as the quarterback situation, the different quarterbacks that he's had in there and have looked really good in his scheme, I think it would be crazy.
KOC does seem like he is a mixture of a guy that will hold him accountable, but he's also that offensive guru, genius type guy that can draw things up and get people open, but he also has control of the team. So, yeah, I think absolute no-brainer.

You have to re-sign this guy.

I heard Ty Schmidt poop his pants whenever this signing was announced.

Ain't that right?

No, no, you didn't.

What?

No, not really. What about Ben Johnson and the Chicago Bears?

There's been videos now coming out of that particular building

with Ben Johnson now leading the charge.

One of my favorites, and I haven't heard him from today's press conference

because it's been live, is whenever he walked in and addressed the entire building as this has

become like the new thing whenever a coach or GM is brought in. The entire company who's been

working there for years and years and years in every department come out and give a round of

applause. Well, Coach Ben Johnson addressed the Chicago Bears building for the first time yesterday.
Welcome, welcome. We love you.
Everyone get back to work. Listen, thank you so much.
My family and I, we are beyond excited. This is exactly where we wanted to be.
This is exactly where we wanted to be. This is going to be a challenge.
I am well aware of that. This is going to be a challenge.
I know what this division is about. And this is exactly where we want to be.
We're going to go after this thing. And it's going to take all of us in this room.
It's going to take this locker room. It's nothing more important than that locker room and us serving that locker room and those players.
Alright? They need to understand that. They need to feel that from us every single day.
And if we do that, the wins are going to come. The playoffs are going to come.
Can't wait to get to know you guys.

Thank you so much for the warm welcome.

Thank you.

Hell yeah.

This is going to be a massive challenge.

You guys know you've been here.

This place kind of stinks.

Thank you for the warm welcome.

You've had to do a lot of these over the last 10 years.

I want to let you know it's all about that locker room right there.

When the wins come and the playoffs come, sales, a lot easier. Ticketing, a lot easier.
Sponsorship, a lot easier. Parking, a lot easier.
Social media, a lot easier. Hey, everybody's life gets a lot easier if we take care of that locker room right there.
Okay? So that's all I'm saying. And this is where we wanted to be.
That's where we wanted you to be. Okay, it feels like it was a perfect start between the building and Ben Johnson's era.
He had a press conference today and you know Lions fans were killing Ben Johnson for going to the Bears and seemingly potentially putting together a staff before the games were over for the Lions. And, you know, Lions fans got creative like Boston Connor did the other day where he was like, Ben Johnson's holding back plays so he can run more Caleb and not Jared.
That's why they lose in the playoffs to the Commanders. We don't think that's true, but he said he loved beating LaFleur twice a year.
He said today, I didn't mind beating LaFleur twice a year. That was a good time.
Trying to win Lions fans back while also taking a shot at the rival Green Bay Packers for the Chicago Bears time. Yeah, see, I appreciate that because he comes in and he understands that that rivalry does mean something, but let's not, I mean, let's get two things straight here, okay? The Lions got their physicality and their toughness and their overall demeanor and attitude from Dan Campbell.
What? They didn't get it from fucking Ben Johnson. Thank you, Ty.
He can say that, and I appreciate that, but you know what Ryan Pohl said when he first got introduced as the Bears' new GM? He said, we're going to take the North and we're never going to get back. And they've been hammered dog shit since he got there.
So you can say all that kind of stuff. That's great.
Hell, they beat the Packers to close out the season. Now, granted, the Packers, you know, in the second half played all their scrubs and all the guys who probably aren't going to be on the team next year because they didn't have anything to play for going into the playoffs.
Now, in hindsight, they should have probably played their starters, so they didn't look so bad going into the playoffs. Maybe it would have helped against Philadelphia.
But you can say all this kind of stuff today, and Bears fans are just eating out of the palm of his hand. They love it.
And they should. They should because he understands how big of a deal it is.
But if you want to win the Super Bowl when you're not in the playoffs in January when you hire your coach and you're trying to figure out this thing for the 500th time in the last 30 years, fine by me. Congratulations.
And enjoy it. But I don't want to hear a goddamn thing when they start 0-5 next year.
What? And Bears fans are saying, it's like the fucking guy we hired. What the hell? I didn't want this guy.
No. I'm just saying.
They said that's where we wanted you to be in the video we heard. Let's go to a Chicago Bears fan here.
Zito, Ben Johnson, his rollout, his debut as a Chicago Bears coach, aside from the selfie video that they put on social, I think has been awesome. Do you agree up there? Yeah, this is like the first time Chicago's all been the same page, too.
That never happens. So, like, everyone legit rooting for him the whole time.
Obviously, there was like Vrabel was obviously part of that as well, and McCarthy, but Ben Johnson is an absolute mastermind, and I do believe that we will be beating the Packers two times this year. Sounds like he's making himself believe.
It sounds like he's trying to convince himself in the middle of that answer there. A little bit.
And he was looking right, and he was looking straight. I was watching Zito's eyes searching.
Yeah. He was searching for something there.
Searching for confidence. Searching for confidence in what he wanted.
And that's what Ben Johns is supposed to do. That's how he should feel.
And I think that's why Chicago feels the way they do. It's like, yeah, we got the guy.
Yeah. He's saying all the right things.
I think, aside from that selfie on social media, everything else, he's saying the right things, Conor. Yeah, saying the right things, but just the demeanor.
I think you mentioned, like, when Mike Vrabel came in, we're not doing the wuss, clapping it up. You know, hey, let's make this guy feel good.
Okay, because that guy's coming in feeling good. He knows what he's supposed to do.
Ben Johnson sent everybody back to work. If we were to go back and look at who exactly got clapped for when they walked in the building, just a couple names come to mind.
Ran Carthon, his ass got shit canned. I think we could go through a few more.
I don't know if they're still with him. And to be completely honest, I've never seen Ben Johnson without a hat on.
And now that I have, boy oh boy, I'm glad the Patriots got Mike Verne. I'm just saying.
He looked like a fool. I thought he sounded great.
He also had that coaching stance with the hand. He did one of these.
Good leadership talk. I think he appreciated the banter there a couple different times.
He was waiting for the team meeting. I thought he addressed the crowd well.
I think we got a chance to look inside one of his meetings there, AJ. I have faith that Ben Johnson will be able to figure it out.
Because you said you hadn't seen him without a hat. I don't think I've heard him talk.
That's my first time really hearing him talk there. I think he does have some leadership qualities, AJ.
Yeah, he does. I mean, that's not an easy room to walk into and try to come in.
You guys have sucked! Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Like, I give him credit. His kids didn't interrupt him and didn't pull on his arm and not tell him that they didn't take a leak or something.
Like, that's something that's tough to do if you're speaking with your kids right next to you. So I give him credit, him and his wife.
But, I mean, ultimately, you've got to ask the guys that played for him. Like, I know the guys that I've talked to that have been on the lines.
Like, they, honestly, they have a lot of respect for this dude and they think he could be a great head coach. So's all i can go off of when i have no personal interaction with the dude but yeah can you can you lead a group of dudes into into you know give them all one singular direction that they can all chase like can you be that guy we'll see so he pointed at some of his players yep allegedly in his press conference caleb and the boys and said get comfortable being uncomfortable i don't know the delivery i don't know the tone i don't know the phrase, but the tweet that I and said, get comfortable being uncomfortable.
I don't know the delivery.

I don't know the tone.

I don't know the phrase.

But the tweet that I read said it was a good moment.

It was a good moment between new coach and locker room.

D-Butch, early thoughts on the Ben Johnson regime up there in Chicago?

I'm optimistic.

You know, he chose this destination. You would assume he had his pick of the litter with the teams.

He chose this destination.

He chose Caleb Williams.

Now, Ryan Pohl's is still there, and

the things about the turnaround and what's going on

in Minnesota and what's going on in Detroit

for an office. You know, Brad Holmes has done a great

job building in the draft and

in free agency with Dan Campbell in the front office.

And question what he's doing in Minnesota,

bringing in guys like Cashman,

Van Ginkle,

Grenard, those guys come in and

instantly produce and help their team.

So those are the things they're going to have to O-line

run it back because you have

Thank you. Ginkle, Grenard those guys come in and instantly produce and help their team so those are the things they're going to have to O-line running back because you have amazing weapons in Detroit and we all know coaches can look great when there's great players running their system and now you have a young quarterback still trying to figure it out you have good talented players but you got to get those players to play and produce at a high high level so how he works with the front office and then obviously how he commands the team we know he's a good play caller so who's going to be defensive coordinator how is he building the rest of his staff out who yeah who all did he bring with them down there do we know does he have a offensive line coach no i don't think they've named anybody yet but i know hank fraley i think he wanted him but hanks uh interviewing with seattle he's the o-line coach in detroit but he's interviewing with seattle and probably i bet at the end of the day, he's just using that as leverage to stay in Detroit.
And then the other two that have been tied to him is Dennis Allen, as DC, and Rizzi. That would be great.
Because he has history down in New Orleans. And Rizzi's name is still potentially up for the New Orleans Saints job because Al Camar said, Coach, I want rhymes with fizzy, dog.
And that would be... Rizzi.
See? Bars. Yeah.
Nailed it. And see, even there, wherever I pointed at AQ, I was a little bit.
Everybody's kind of on guard. Yeah, a little bit.
No, you're good with a point. Yeah, one finger.
Yeah, even two. Butch, keep going.
How about three? Go four then, Butch. No, but I will say, Rich Rodriguez told me one time whenever, not me, it was a team meeting, he said every time you point a finger at somebody else, there's three fucking pointing back at you and never forget it.
So whenever you blame somebody else, you're blaming yourself in the process. You might as well just do that at the beginning.
So I remember when it's definitely somebody else's fault throughout the rest of my life, you go four fingers at eight. Easy.
Your fault. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Keep that elbow. That's first down.
Keep that elbow. First down.
I'm first down. Be careful.
And if I go from my heart... I think it is in the delivery as well.
Just a little bit more casual. Just a little bit more...
Because I think it was was like just the force in which it was was my force it was like he snapped it he snapped it too hard practice rehearse like this guy's got formed like you know whenever you see somebody salute the flag and you'll see like yeah you'll see like the actual like hey those are the real hey real deal real deal appreciating i get it i got it i got it but whenever you see the person like snap it in it's like oh that's a oh yeah that's real deal right there that's what that one and I think it's all because of the the form yeah snap that yeah I think it's what we're all seeing on that video is like like the muscles have been where you're thinking like that's probably not the first one bingo yeah like the muscles have been but he said you're thinking like, that's probably not the first one. Bingo, yeah.
Like the muscles have been... But he said my heart goes out to you.
That's what I... I agree, I know.
That's a weird way to throw it. I know, but that's what I've been bouncing back.
Is that what he's really saying? I didn't hear the audio. Yeah, the audio is heart goes out to people, but not to people past first row, because if you're throwing like that, I don't know how far that's going, yeah.
We talked yesterday. There's a lot of different ways to throw.
Unless it was a Frisbee-shaped heart. Yeah, you're right.
Could have been a Frisbee. That is, I guess that's what.
Oh, no Frisbees. You throw that underhand as well.
You think he's got a snap? I don't think so. Come on.
He's got a snap in the bowl. Everybody's different.
Nick did twirl it out. True.
You can bring it back here and throw it that way. Yeah.
But there's also four. There's also.
I got C in Frisbee in college. You got to be good.
I couldn't get that one. Yeah, Elon doesn't have that one.
I thought we were watching this morning. The final.
Stone skipping comp on ESPN, the Ocho. This is a Western Pennsylvania thing, I think.
I think. And we got video, actually, of Da Goat, Kurt Steiner.o this is a western pennsylvania thing i think i think and we got video actually of the goat kurt steiner now this is a big time championship uh skip of the stone now obvious the goal is to look cool and to skip out of a rock and the camera people have been maybe the worst in the history of any sport look at 42 skips right there my god boom 42 skips right there from kurt steiner okay follow through heips right there from Kurt Steiner.
Okay. That follow through.
He's from Erie, Pennsylvania. Okay.
Which is obviously Western Pennsylvania. There's a couple competitors from Tidioot in Franklin, Pennsylvania as well.
I believe this was hosted in Franklin, Pennsylvania. As a former rock skipper, Crick boy, I feel like, I wish I would have found out about this.
Let's go to Hammer.

Dan, Pat, Tone.

I think our street in general with the Cric's, you know, because Hilly Town and where I was on the street, it was the bottom of all the hills.

So there's Cric's.

You know, there's a lot of them.

So easy thing to do if you got shit to do is just we're skipping rocks.

Now finding the rocks is a big deal.

These guys are allowed to bring their own rocks to the skipping competition. So they're finding these rocks, curating these rocks, probably these rocks in this entire thing.
Tony, I think we could have kept up with these guys whenever we were younger as we were watching it this morning on ESPN The Ocho. Yeah, I mean, we're cut from the same cloth.
We cut our teeth in the same region there skipping rocks, so I don't think there's any reason to believe we couldn't. And, you know, we were river kids, and everyone knows the river rock is's much better than a lake rock as far as skipping is concerned and i was actually thinking this morning as i was watching i was like i probably throw the way that i do because of skipping rocks and that's probably why the pop time was so proficient back in the day yeah so yeah i think we could easily yeah because you gotta take that thing here yeah you gotta take that thing here because you're trying to get as low as the water and that first skip is a very important skip the camera person has never seen somebody's right and then they watch 50 people do it and they still had no idea they thought that first skip they were zooming in every oh the rock went straight down why don't you see this the first skip is just like to get that thing going a little bit and they just let's keep you know every time we got distracted but i appreciate all the stone skippers out there.
Good work, Pat.

Keep it going.

Joining us now is a man who I think would be a terrible stone skipper.

No doubt.

I don't think he's going to be 6'6 and be a good stone skipper.

I think it's going to be tough.

Unless you've got those arms that potentially are orangutan down to your ankles.

Randy Johnson.

Yeah, like Brock Lesnar is probably the greatest.

Because his hands actually go all the way down to his ankles.

So that's just, he's really just sidearming that. Ladies and gentlemen, future first ballot Hall of Famer.
Member of the Bull Ring of Honor down there for the AFC South champions, Houston Texans. Ladies and gentlemen, JJ Wall.
Yay! What is that? What's up, guys? Oh, cool. Got an umbro kit on right now? What is that? Who is it? What is that for? Swimpy.
Oh, for yeah we got a burnley match coming up in about an hour and a half uh 1980 retro kit here we play plymouth argyle at uh 2 p.m central time so you know the whites normally look terrible in yellow you look very good there phenomenal you look very good in that in that uh great seems to be a lot of conversation around that topic in that in that thunderdome today there but uh i appreciate it i look good in yellow i look good in yellow we're talking about the way to throw a heart is that what you're talking about we uh we played plymouth argyle today fun fact they're good home of the mayflower home of the mayflower oh really wow that's right i love that plymouth argyles uh they come out 351. They're ready to go.
352. They're ready to go out there.
Plymouth Rock. Yeah, because that's up there.
Where they landed. Yeah.
Named after. In old mass.
In New England. Pilgrims.
Where America was invented, someone would say. Away from old England.
Yeah, that's right. Which is where this lad is that owner of.
Are you guys wearing those tarps? You bring those back? Do you do merch stuff? Do you do other journeys to make it like a buck? I just, I got a bunch of old retros in my closet. Also looking at some stuff in the future.
I personally love this old school crest and I would like, I just love it. I would love some incorporation.
So, anytime I get a chance to wear it, I enjoy it. you think do you like it i like i can never wear that me personally the way i am built can never wear that i think yellows you wear a lot of stuff though you wear a lot of stuff you look good and black you'll see me in dark colors because the way i am built yellow would be a tough one for me yellow would be a tough one for me but i played for the colts and we wore white spanks on primetime on a regular basis that wasn't great wasn't great for me either.
Punters really hate the all-white because Leichler hated the all-white. Yeah.
Your belly button looks like a kid. O-lineman, too.
Not an O-lineman. You weren't big.
What are you talking about? Yeah, exactly. But the white Spanx certainly say every—I mean, we were wearing—we were only fans and out there.
You know this is a this is an interesting question i'm very curious to hear the answer you d but did you ever wear any jersey besides the home and away of the indianapolis colts did they ever do an alternate i think we did it one time we moved the stripes from like here to here and then we had a different helmet one time. Color Rush? I think we did white.
I don't think Color Rush came in until 17, 18, right? We had a Thursday night Color Rush for sure at home. I guess the Broncos, I think.
All blue. What was your Color Rush? All blue.
Was that the helmet? Was that the different helmet? The Boys of Summer? Was that 17, though? That's Indiana Knights that's Indiana Knights, you asshole. Yeah.
It wasn't the Indiana Knights. No, because she grew up.
Disaster. Leeson.
Your uniforms are playing for another team. So I don't want to hear you all.
Yeah, well. Yours were sitting on the couch.
Oh, right. But you have great...
I do like your main uniforms. They're good.
They're iconic you don't mess with an icon that's i think that's part of the reason why indiana knights didn't work that well a because they weren't designed that great but b because your your normals were good and c it was a one o'clock game because the colts had no night game so there was a lot there's a lot that goes into it but i do believe the family that owns the col Colts take great pride in the tradition of the uniform and the logo and everything like that.

Anyways, I'm happy to hear you're not an owner that's super-duper greedy and just tries to turn out an alternate jersey just to get a few bucks.

You know, just get a few bucks.

Because why would you want to do that for Burnley? You know, why would you want to get a few more bucks?

Maybe sign some free agents.

Keep that goalie.

Uh-oh. Keep that goalie who's a real – hey, he's a real deal.
He's a guy, isn't he? He's a dog. He's a dog.
He will be the number one for England at some point. He is a dog.
He's going to be very expensive for you, so maybe we start selling these yellow jerseys. Yeah.
Maybe we start doing some business out there. Go ahead, comment.
He's going to have to play for the Bengals. Yeah, wasn't that the deal between you and the goalie? I've seen it on the internet.
It was the deal. I was literally just joking around.
He's a big Bengals fan, so we were messing around. And he said, how about you come out of retirement? This was before the Bengals played the Steelers, so he was trying to round me up a little bit.
He said, how about you come out of retirement and play for the Bengals? And I said, well, if you don't allow a goal the rest of the year, then I'll do it.

It's a deal. And we have played five games since then.
He has allowed zero goals and he saved two penalties in 10 minutes in the last game. So he took it very seriously.
After, after three games, I messaged him. I said, Hey, you're taking this a little too serious.
He messaged me and he said, how do you eat a whale one bite at a time? And then after this pass came, I said, hey, you're taking this a little too serious. He messaged me and he said, how do you eat a whale one bite at a time?

And then after this pass game, I said, all right, now you're getting real serious.

He said, I want this pretty bad, man.

So it's heating up a little bit.

We still got 18 games left.

Oh, okay.

So that's a lot.

You know, we're nowhere near it.

You know, we're nowhere near the end.

But, hey, how do you eat a whale?

You don't.

Tell them.

Do you tell them you don't want a guy to be on your team that eats whales?

But nonetheless.

This is a Kennedy guy.

What's that?

This is a Bobby Kennedy guy.

That's true.

A whale's gluten-free.

Remember they put it on the whale?

Yeah, remember he took a chainsaw and sliced a whale's head off

and then put it on top of his car driving back from the beach?

Yeah.

You remember this?

No.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

True story. True story.
Yeah, yeah. Drove on top of his roadside.
Tell it. Tell it.
I'm okay. I'm going to look this up.
True story, yeah. I'm going to do my research.
I'm excited to look this up. I don't remember this story at all.
Beached whale. He said, we got to get this thing out of here.
Go grab my chainsaw. Sliced his head off, put it on top of his car like luggage back in the day.
Tied it on there. His daughter told the whole story.
That's actually what happened. Here we go.
Boom. RFK Jr.
being investigated for decapitating a whale and driving across state lines. Yeah.
It's real. Hey, hey.
We just let you know. Just news report.
The journalist. We didn't create this report.
No. That was actually out there.

I must have missed that one.

Yeah, yeah.

That was the middle of the season there, September 15, 2024,

whenever they were out to get everybody.

Oh, yeah.

Was Aaron almost the vice president this time?

Yeah.

Yeah, that was right then.

Yeah, yeah.

It's amazing what they find out during those times.

All right.

Anyways, I don't know.

You're right.

I don't know what Bob did.

Maybe he thinks it's healthy,

but I don't think that's going to become a cuisine for anybody. But if he goes, you have to play for him too, right? This is kind of a thing.
You would have to play for the Bengals. If he does this, I will do it.
Yeah, definitely. Holy shit.
Put it on a seat, GeekTaker. Jage potentially back.
He said this past season was the last time. This is the last time anybody would do it.
But that defense, they lose their defense coordinator. Lou Anarumo now defense coordinator for the Indianapolis Colts.
Ben Johnson, now the head coach of the Chicago Bears. Pete Carroll's name is being linked to the Las Vegas Raiders now.
Allegedly, Tom Brady's running that whole thing too over there. Tom Brady's running that entire thing.
Saints don't have a coach. Jacksonville Jaguars don't have a coach.
Aaron Glenn potentially going to the Jets, but they're saying he's also maybe going to the Saints, who aren't able to do in-person interviews for a few days because of the snowstorm. Which one of those storylines is most intriguing to you? Jacksonville Jaguars potentially bringing Salah back.
I think Salah was down there as a coach at one point, knows the Cotton family well, right? That's correct. He was a linebacker's coach down there for a while.
He's probably going to get that and have a guy. Okay, so maybe Salah goes down to Jacksonville, which hasn't really been chatted about.
Liam Cohen just signed an extension with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, allegedly going to $4.5 million a year as a coordinator, pulling his name from the Jacksonville Jaguar job. Which one of those stories do you think is most intriguing? Ben Johnson in Chicago, does that change anything? Aaron Glenn, if he goes to the Jets, does that change anything? Like which one do you think we should pay attention? Pete Carroll getting back.
Which one do you like the most that is kind of being lingered right now or have already happened? I've got a few thoughts. I've got a few thoughts on the coaching situations right now.
I think, A, Chicago has to be excited. Obviously, we have no idea what's going to happen, but it feels like they got the number one hot ticket guy of this coaching carousel.
And that seems like a change from the past, in my opinion. I mean, unless there's something that I'm forgetting or missing here, this seems like, holy shit, the Bears actually got the guy.
They have the young quarterback. They have, you know, some of those pieces that you feel like you add a great coach it, and they have a chance to flourish.
So if I'm a Bears fan, I'm sitting there extremely excited right now. Obviously, a long way to go.
We'll see what happens. But overall, with this coaching circuit, I think it's partially to do with the rule changes for when you can do your interviews.
But it does seem like it's taking a little bit longer than coaching carousels normally take to fill out. And it also feels like coaches are being much more selective in how they are going about teams.
It's not just, can I get a head coaching job? It's I want to land in the right situation with the right quarterback, with the right GM, with the right organizational structure. I do think that's starting to play into effect more

where head coaches aren't just like,

I'll take any job just to become a head coach

because they're starting to see

that if you get in the wrong situation

with the wrong ownership or the wrong team

or the wrong makeup or the salary cap,

you could be one and done

and that could ruin your only shot.

Yeah, but you get a guaranteed contract.

You know, there's always a fine balance

and I'm intrigued to see what Cliff Kingsbury decides to do because he says he's not doing any interviews until their run is over. Ben Johnson, you know, he didn't do didn't sign on to be the coach of the Chicago Bears until immediately after the Lions lose.
Then the Lions fans got all pissed off. Lions fans basically kicked him out the door.
Hey, thanks for nothing, bud. You brought us back to real prominence and relevancy and number one seed in the nfc and our offense was electrifying to watch going to a game was so much fun we're obviously scoring more than the other team great haven't done that in a long time but the way we were scoring was explosive and you brought the best out of a lot of people that we haven't had with that being said he went to chicago bears you're already trying to put a staff together go fuck yourself that is what a lot of people in detroit, right? That's what everyone's saying.
I still don't understand it because we still have MCDC. We still have Jared Goff.
We still have that incredible weapons around him. We still have a great defense.
We still have so many pieces. We're the back-to-back NFC North champions.
So I personally am not afraid of Ben Johnson. But it sounds like a lot of Lions fans are afraid and they're deflecting.
Okay, I like that you're calling it afraid as opposed to just mad. What are your thoughts on this particular situation with Ben Johnson and Detroit Lions and now the Chicago Bears? I can understand being disappointed that your great offensive coordinator is gone and the fun football that you've been watching.
Now you have to hope it keeps happening, but I don't understand the anger. I don't understand like this, this why is he taking this job? Like you get a chance to be a head coach in the national football league.
This is a chance that you dream about from the day you start coaching and you should be happy for him because that means your team has been successful. You know, there's other teams out there who are complaining that their coaches have never had coordinators hired to be head coaches, other places.
You have both of your coordinators looking at other jobs and being the two top candidates in the entire coaching carousel that means you're doing something right that means you have a great organization that means everything is going well where you are and that also means that your head coach picked those two guys so maybe you should trust him that he's going to pick two more great guys and fill in those roles so i don't think there needs to this theory. Be happy for him.
I have a feeling a lot of players in that locker room are happy for him because he made them look great and play great, and they also know how hard he worked and how big of a dream this is for him. So I don't understand the extreme anger about him.
Amen. It's because it's in the division.
It's in the division, and he immediately – he's been talking to Dennis Allen about joining his staff so the Lions fans

are like whoa whoa whoa I thought we were paying attention to winning

games or whatever. Kingsbury said like

hey I'm not going to even entertain any of

those till after and then they win and he's the

OC of the other team. Yeah and I don't want to talk about this

I don't want to keep making points to

debunk the Detroit's

anger. Like Cliff Kingsbury

has already been a head coach. He's already got a head coach

and guaranteed contract. He's still getting paid off.
Ben Johnson's never been a head coach before. Ben Johnson, not just in the last four days before the Commanders-Lions game, has reached out to people to say, hey, would you join me? This has been happening probably for years.
Exactly, and he's earned this. Didn't they put up like 500 yards of offense, too, in this last game? Yeah, but he was saving plays for Caleb, wasn't he? Yeah, that's kind of the word on the screen.
See how much nonsense this is? This is why I don't understand why Lions fans are upset. It makes no sense.
They're acting like this has never happened in the NFL before. It happens all the time.
I think it makes a ton of sense. Rarely in division.
If you want to be mad at the Bears head coach, and you want to say, I don't like the Bears head coach because I'm a Detroit Lions fan, that's fine. want to be mad at the bears head coach and you want to say i don't like the bears head coach because i'm a detroit lions fan that's fine but to be mad at to be mad at him the coordinator for leaving your team that i don't understand okay well fans can do fan stuff i'll tell you what the lions expectations are really high now are you going to be able to do it without oc and dc that have led you to this prominence now i think mcDC is able to find guys.
I think MCDC's culture is settled in there. But this is what your world is now.
This is what a winning franchise is like. You lose your coordinators.
100%. And, like, honestly, that's why I'm not that worried about the Bears or the division.
AJ says it all the time. Who cares about winning the NFC North when you want to win a Super Bowl? And so now I'm looking at, like, Nick Sirianni.
He went and found two new coordinators. It took a year, and now he's back in the championship weekend.
So hopefully MCDC can do the same thing. Yeah, and it's an NFC East championship weekend.
I thought the NFC North was the one. Oh, geez.
Foxy, what's your window? Foxy, what's the Detroit window? What does it look like right now? If you don't win this next year. No, we got a lot of young guys.
We got golf for a couple more years. I mean, the roster's so young, and MCDC is going to have them ready to go.
So I still think we're right there. I'm not worried one bit about that.
Okay, we have some breaking news out of the NFL. The New York Jets have officially hired Aaron Glenn as their next head coach to be the leader of men at one Jets drive over there in New Jersey.
Obviously, Aaron Glenn played, coached, understands that building over there. And what he's been able to do with Detroit with injuries to every starter, basically, while still remaining the defense coordinator of a team that would end up being the number one seed in the NFC before losing a devastator to the Washington Commanders is now a head coach in the NFL.
You know, the last couple of years, his name has been floated in a lot of different jobs. I think last coaching cycle, if he would have won all in, he probably could have got a head coaching job with how great he has done and the turnaround that has happened up there in Detroit.
Now, he seemingly has found the job that he wants going back into New York, New Jersey area to lead the Jets to potential prominence uh I'll start with you Jage what do you think about Aaron Glenn getting the head coaching job with the Jets and this was kind of an unkept secret for like the last four days seemingly everybody knew this was going to happen yeah I like it I think every single person you talk to talks about how prepared and how ready he is to be a head coach how they think he's going to have great success. I think the fact that he was a first round pick for the Jets, that he was a scout for the Jets.
I think somebody being in that organization before, not necessarily from the success of it, but from caring about it, from having a passion about it, from not just being an outsider who's never had any connection before. He's going to want to do something great with that.
He's going to want to change the fortunes. He's going to want to be the one to take it to that next level.
Now, obviously, you've got to figure out some things there. You've got the quarterback situation.
You've got that future. But you win in New York, you can basically write your own ticket in that city.
So it's going to be a lot of fun to see how that goes. Yeah, and you'll be on TV forever.
If you go to New York,ork you have a job in tv forever he's got a guaranteed contract now at head coach which is going to be big money especially with the success that he's had we just saw ben johnson allegedly signed for 13 million with the chicago bears debuts your thoughts on aaron glenn you're slamming the guaranteed contract i like it it's a little players gotta start i mean there's a lot of players uh hopefully with the new NFLPA after we lay off 150 people. Did you? 150 people got laid off.
Did you know we had 150 people? I didn't know. I was just about to ask.
What do they do? 500. 530 or 525.
NFLPA 530. Yeah.
Laid off 150. you wouldn't even know it.
Still have a thing. Yeah, we got to up the fees.
500 full-time employees? 150 people got laid off, and they're getting paid a year worth. Yeah, full-time.
500-something. NFLPA.
Got to up the fees, too, though. Got to build up the war chest.
Got to build up the war chest. Yeah, for who? For who do we have to? Have you guys got anything done? What are we five oh we've lost we're getting crushed on cbas left and right every single every single thing merch deals contract i mean everything tv you name it l l l l l we need more employees to get it right we need more employees actually we need more people that we could spend these doofuses money that they're just giving us blindly remember used to have rats walking around the locker room before us that's right guys used to have to work three jobs before us guys you smoke cigs in the building before us well we saved it we need to hire a hundred more people yeah to do what to do it what are you talking about to do what to do it man doing it who do you think puts these slides together the rats in the locker room who do you think who do you think does this come out of nowhere who do you think does this pity party every single time we come around and get you at the end of your work day after you've worked already nine days on a thursday and they have a meeting any questions we got our madden check we got your madden as we get out of here, everybody's going to just pick up a check for doing nothing.
$13,000, $15,000. Any questions? Madden checks on deck.
Any questions? That's what we thought. All right.
See you later, everybody. We got to go to the next town.
All right. 600 people.
Let's go up. Let's go over to the same song and dance over here.
These fucking idiots don't know anything. Bang.
Ready to the next one. Hey, what i thought all right pick it up show goes on staying with four seasons too what every suite that you have four we're gonna vote for we're gonna vote for your team rep and he's gonna be cut the next year they're gonna vote for a new one and he's gonna be cut next year we're gonna vote for a new one he's gonna be cut the next year oh you don't want to be a Why? I don't know, because they've all been cut every single year after they become the rep.
Mawai? Is that the center? Yeah, Kevin Mawai. Hall of Famer.
Unbelievable. Becomes president of the NFLPA.
Can't get a job. Yeah, you're retired now.
Oh, great. So who ends up being the reps that are voting on all these things? Long snappers.
Bingo. It it is it's an interesting dilemma over there but i think the nfl pa laid off the bad 150 people yeah and we hope they get new jobs and we're thankful that as players that we could just send a check blankly and you have a job way to go they're getting right over there okay they'll trigger it out they're getting right over there but head coach guarantee contract, the reason why it's such a big deal is because $13 million, four or five years, whatever it is, I mean, you're getting paid throughout the entirety of that.
You're a baseball player. You're an NBA guy.
So if a ownership or organization wants to change their mind after a year, you can be a professional golfer making more money than most of them other than Scotty Scheffler for the next four years getting paid off of last year,

the year before.

Cliff Kingsbury is still getting paid off the Arizona Cardinals deal.

McDaniels.

Yeah, McDaniels is still getting paid.

He's up to New England.

Congratulations to New England.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Josh McDaniels is now the offensive coordinator for the New England Patriots

while he's still getting Raiders checks.

I mean, it is.

It's insane how it works.

But, yes, NFLPA is going to figure it out, J.J. NFLPA is going to figure it out.
They got the right 350 guys there. They got the right hand ladies.
D-Bot has a question for you, Jage. I'm going to ask you about the defensive fronts left in the conference championships.
Who do you have, I guess, the most confidence in going forward to win these things and get to the Super Bowl? I mean, it's, I just – obviously, I'm a Houston guy, and I just watched Karloftis take it to tight ends. You can't – I'm just going to – Three of them.
You can't block guys with tight ends. I'm just going to say that right now.
Chris Jones, obviously, up there as a beast. That first sack that he had it was he just he just ran straight past um

that was that was a tough one and they got omena who back you know from they he didn't have he wasn't out there the last time they played the bills um so he's great i think the eagles the eagles front is phenomenal so i think my my top two would be the chiefs and the Eagles right now. And we'll see how Jaden handles that.

But the Chiefs just, they blew through the Texans.

And Spaggs at the end of the game brought heat.

I mean, it was perfect.

He brought heat at the right time.

And they hit and they hit and they hit.

And so it just closed out the game.

He knows what he's doing.

There's a reason he's possibly a Hall of Famer as only an assistant coach.

It's incredible.

I think he's definitely going to be a Hall of Famer as an assistant coach. Every time they put out stats about what he's done nobody else has done it basically uh in in most of the success and wins and everything like that let's talk about that game a little bit the storyline of this game is the chiefs still the chiefs and uh the refs want the chiefs to win as a houston texans homer as a citizen i believe of Houston now, as a guy who's in the bull ring of honor in Houston.
What were your thoughts on how the stripes worked and calls like this happened, where Patrick Mahomes always lost his entire skull. Damn it.
And then he's flopping on the sideline as the face of football. Age, what was your big takeaway from the chatter that followed this convo, which is the Chiefs are in bed with the refs? And it's very obvious, which is pretty much the sentiment.
Age or Jage? Jage. Sorry, you said age.
Jage. Oh, me.
That is confusing, though. A couple of Js left.
The two calls everybody's talking about, I think are justifiably talked about i think that they're

legitimate i think it was great how troy called them out i think that was all great i also think

it's absolutely absurd that they've come out after the fact and said no we made those calls

correctly like let's just like the whole country agree like let's not don't even get into that

now what i will say is pat is notorious for knowing how to take full advantage of the rules

Thank you. not don't even get into that now what i will say is pat is notorious for knowing how to take full advantage of the rules like he's he's a great quarterback because he does everything great not just on the field playing and everything but he also knows how to take full advantage he'll slide late he'll stay tight tightrope along the sidelines and make you hit him so it looks like he's out of bounds he'll do all these things don't blame him for that one bit i would do it too if they were giving me the calls to me that's more on the refs which is why i was happy to see that they didn't throw a flag on that sideline one because they weren't going to give that so hopefully you're sending the message that that's not going to work for us anymore but those two other calls the reason they lost the game absolutely not you can't keep you can't complain about the refs is reason we lost.
We'll see you in the next round of how it keeps going. See you tomorrow.
Whoa. Not that.
Okay, Jay. Holy shit.
Okay, Jay. That was pretty good.
I just started talking bullshit at the end of that. No, you know.
I knew I had to wrap through it. No, hey, listen.
Every once in a while, you've got to find an exit. You know, there's been been multiple times I've been on TV and there's no exit in sight, you know, with where I'm at.
And I have somebody telling me in my ear, hey, we got to go. And it's like, I don't know where you want me to go, but there is nowhere for me to head to.
And then the brain just starts, how do we get out of this? And it's like, talk back. Wish I could say, we got about four to five more takes in this thing.
I don know where you want me to go you found an exit perfectly i'd say and uh that was real hosting stuff that was great yesterday we uh we sent it to a break and we didn't go to a break and then we're on for another 45 seconds it worked today it worked today but that was certainly something nice that's certainly something You guys, yesterday was impressive, huh? I mean, you guys had to be a tough day. Yesterday was a massive day.
What day is today? Wednesday. Yeah, so Tuesday was a massive day digitally for us because national championship Monday night kind of carries in to Tuesday.
Huge day digitally. One half of the hammer.
Done. Cowboys, Bubba Gumpino gumpino gumpy huge day on the uh interwebs for the old pad actually show massive day on x on monday and tuesday what was it what was it 83.9 million impressions it's today it was huge awesome but so i used to you know with x and twitter you can always see those numbers like in the back end of it.
If you pay for the blue checkmark now, you get that. If before you used to have a blue checkmark to get that and had it, I would always check it.
And the numbers would be wild. Like X and Twitter has always been a platform that I focused on.
That's always been where I live since the very beginning. That's literally the only thing I've really done.
You as well, I believe. And like the numbers would be huge.
And I'd be like, I don't want to post these because i don't know if these are big numbers like i don't know what's a big number you know like i don't know like if i put this out is somebody just gonna fuck in yeah comparatively yeah who's this is on now we're at the point where it's like i think people should see what ours are at least and then let's see what is everybody else 80 some million in two days is a wild day on x and i'll tell you what whenever you're having those numbers you get a lot of people don't like you in there a lot of people are seeing it a lot of people like you've seen it focus on those ones people hate russell wilson they shouldn't did you see russ on the show did you see any of him talking to us i i i saw him i didn't but i didn't have the sound on, so I had Moana. Nice.
I understand. I didn't have the sound on.
What did I miss? Listen, kid, I can go on and on. I can explain every natural phenomenon.
You know, the... It's a good movie, man.
Oh, yeah. It's a good movie.
I'm going to see two this afternoon. I've heard mixed reviews on two, but...
No, it's good. I've heard great news.
It's unbelievable. Just like the red one, the rocks in it, it's going to be good so that is that is just what you need to know moana 2 is going to be good because of it russ is just like russ i think i think he's always russ i think it's similar to what you had to deal with there for a bit you're being portrayed as a superhuman perfect guy right and i think you sensed it and you backed away from everything because you were kind of over that being a thing not that you're not a superhuman and a good guy but whenever everybody is like saying like pushing it and thrusting it basically in people's faces humans are naturally going to start hating that thing i mean that's just kind of how it goes everything is professional wrestling like that is life so like tim tebow had it i think you had it for a bit russ is very much in the middle of this type of thing too like look at this perfect guy huh isn't he perfect he is he is perfect look at this guy he's doing all by himself a fake drive down the field with a sky cam right over top of him he's going through the huddle he's visualizing everything and it's like is russ doing that from the camera it's gotta be look at this guy look at this guy look at this guy so he's kind of been a victim of that thing after talking to him it feels like he is who i think he's being portrayed to be and uh maybe some of it is a little corny but i think he's just trying to be a good good force in this world especially in sports so i respected him coming on and i thought he did a great job and i think i think there's also a thing that's like okay how long does somebody have to do it let's call it an act or not how long do they have to do it before no that just is who they are what if they are acting that is a 15 year act that is gone on and that is who they are i mean the guy goes to the hospital every single tuesday for his entire life like do you think he's just putting on this every tuesday and he's like at some point these people are going to see no he's just doing it because that's what he does that's who he is i know mine obviously is a little bit different but i agree there was a time where i went through that where i there's definitely a time where i wanted people to think that like oh captain america all this perfect and everything you try and portray everything you want to control every interview and i think there's a part of that where you're a little i don't know if it's scared or worried you're like i don't know if people would actually like you if you just were yourself you're supposed to play a character you're supposed to be this perfect image you're leading a franchise or doing these things you want to give out the perfect image um and then there just comes a point where you're like nah like i can't for me i was like i can't i can't do this forever like and you know it.
So I was like, oh, fuck it. If they're not going to like me anyway, might as well just be myself.
Yeah. Just be normal.
And so. Is there an imposter syndrome that comes in there too? Like, I wonder about that.
You know, like, like Tim Tebow, the way he was being covered, it was as if he was Jesus Christ. Yeah.
That's holy shit. Still might be.
Jesus playing football. Might be.
I mean, we don't know. Jesus is a lefty.
I don't know if we knew that. And he plays quarterback for the Florida Gators.
That is how he was being portrayed. We all remember it.
That was literally in sports media. I wonder if there's ever...
The weight of that has to be real. No doubt.
No doubt. Yeah, because you're like, okay, at some point, I'm a normal human here like like people people are gonna at some point they're gonna turn on you and also that's something with our society they want to like they want to build people up but then they also want to turn up doesn't matter who you are doesn't matter how great you are doesn't matter how much success you have they want to see the rise and they also want to see the fall so it's It's knowing that that's also there at some point too it's it's an interesting place to be i'm not i wasn't at that level but it it's got to be interesting you're up there brother you're i mean you're on every we saw a lot of jj it's happening now so for with with some people like i know right now the tide has turned a little with jason kelsey just because on so many things.
Exposed everywhere. Yeah, and I think JJ has brought this up before.
A lot of times, like, hey, look, people are offering you money to do stuff. Who are you? You've got a family.
You have things. Who are you to say no to these? Guy out of Cleveland.
Yeah, but exactly. He has his own business to run and things of that nature, but you can kind of sense that on the internet at least like he's in a lot of commercials he's doing a lot of shows and of course a philly guy like there are people who know him as just like hey center offensive lineman and now people don't know him as that anymore and so naturally people are turning we are like obviously go ahead no no go ahead there also is a figuring out of wading through the waters of that world if you've never been in it before i mean you mentioned like yes he's been extremely famous he's been an offensive lineman his whole career the super bowl he had the speech and all that but he hasn't necessarily had a lot of the same commercial opportunities coming his way the tv show opportunities night show opportunities so you're wading through these waters for the first time with people just throwing offer after offer after offer an opportunity after opportunity at you and everything sounds incredible because you've never had it at this level before so people are like we'll give you x amount of dollars for this commercial it takes one day to film that amount of money for one day absolutely we'll give you this amount of money to have your own show and you can have your wife on and your kids.
Yes, that sounds great. I would love to do that.
You don't at the moment think about like, oh, these people are going to backlash against me for this or that for the other thing. And as you go through it, then you start to learn what you really love to do, what you want to do, what makes sense from a financial and a time commitment standpoint and blending it all together and trying to find that right thing the first time you go through it man it it is hard to say no it's it's almost impossible because you're just like this is unbelievable we appreciate you saying that telling your story obviously because you were a part of that whole thing and we think jason kelsey's going to be just fine long term but there's been a lot in as somebody who's on tv a lot you know me age the boys we're out there a lot there's a lot of us like the commercial world that's when you're showing up when people don't know you're gonna show up like i feel like where we are now everybody knows where we're gonna be okay the assholes are showing up the asshole is gonna be on this yes the commercial thing is like now you're just in everybody every bang bang truly getting shoved down people's throat yeah so that Yeah, so that's a big decision to be made when you get into the commercial world.
Obviously, you've done a great job. Your commercials have been very well received this year, I think, right? Don't you think all your commercials have been very well? Thank you.
Yeah, they've been great. They've all been good.
Dodge has been great. They helped my foundation a lot, which was cool, the Dodge Ram.
The Dix one, that was awesome. The awesome the christmas one so taco but that's one of those things i'm talking about like i'm trying to pick and choose and have a little more input in the creative so that when it goes out there i'm i'm really proud of it and i'm like this i'm okay with it because so the ones that i do now if people have backlash on them um i don't care because i am 100 completely comfortable comfortable and confident in them.
And that's just somebody who wants to be met. I love that.
All right, another guy that's probably going to experience this going forward is maybe having the greatest rookie year in the history of the NFL. And somehow we're saying that after what C.J.
Stroud was able to do last year. A.J.
has a question for you. J.J.? J.J., I wonder your thoughts on the commanders as a whole.
Obviously, they're taking on Philly. I've said before like i think they have a chance to win this game for sure i think they got something special going on what are your thoughts of the commanders dan quinn obviously jayden daniels and his historic run as a rookie quarterback i think it's a awesome to watch the way he handles himself the poise the calmness the confidence the ability the the talent.
It's unbelievable. And then B, I think it's the perfect example of what happens when all the stars in an organization align.
Clearly, the commanders had a problem for many, many years and struggled for many, many years under previous ownership. They change ownership.
They hire a new head coach. They have a new GM.
They get a rookie quarterback. And all of those things combined to create a successful situation and basically an incubator for an explosive success.
And that's what we're seeing right here. So I think of it as you look at all these other owners around the league.
And I think of this coaching carousel that we're going through right now now and i always picture these front offices meeting with their owner and the owner sitting down and pointing to the commanders and saying why can't we do what they just did they have a new coach a new gm and a rookie quarterback and they're in the nfc championship in their very first year we're about to have a new coach this guy better have us in the championship this next year why can't we do that and i just laughed just laughed because of how unrealistic and how crazy that is. But the commanders did it.
And it's a top-to-bottom change. They had a full, complete change of philosophy.
They changed an entire organization which had a history of struggling for the last 20-plus years. And they changed it all in two years, one year really with the coach and GM.
It's just a credit to when everything aligns. And it also speaks to what happens if we put quarterbacks in good situations as opposed to young quarterbacks in tough situations.
What are the names of that team over there in D.C.? What are the names of that team? The football team? The Commanders. My favorite one.
And then what was that? The football team was your favorite one? Yeah. But their fans seemingly have another favorite one.
Yeah, they don they don't like the other two they like one of them we were having a conversation about this on uh in the cbs desk the other day because you guys say it on air you guys said it on air no no but this is the conversation that we were having because we were watching an interview with one of the former players he was talking about he said i got drafted by the washington redskins and like they were like i don't know if you can say that on air. And I'm like, well, that's – how would you say that? If you were drafted in 1995, what team do you say you were drafted like? Well, we know how you would say it.
We just found out. You said the other team.
Yeah, yes. The other franchise? Yeah, potentially the other one.
Terry McLaurin was actually drafted to that Washington team when they were known as the Washington Redskins. That was the name of the team.
Jesus Christ. Holy shit.
Fly. This show.
Capital America. How would you throw your heart if you had to throw it to a group of people? Yeah.
Not that way. Overhand.
Maybe overhand throw. What is the way you would do it? We talked about a few different styles.
might have been the one I like the frisbee It's just I like the frisbee out Got a good windup That was a long ass cricket throw Yeah you gotta split the wicket somehow Throw a bunch of people there. That's as far as I get watching one of those games.
I try, and then I see the whole run-up and the run, I go, ah. The highlights are electric.
That's all I see. That's all I see is the full-on.
They have like three-month games, don't they? Nah, I think it can't last that long. I think that's bullshit.
Everything's coming up Burnley. Greatest English cricket bowler of all time, Jimmy Anderson.
Grew up in Burnley. Really? Was he a lefty or a righty? I couldn't even imagine being a southpaw in that world.
I think there's some countries that have a bone to pick with that. I've never seen a lefty.
Yeah, India probably. There's some countries that have a bone to pick with that.
I said he's the greatest English bowler of all time. Oh, okay.
Well, the sun never set empire too so what do you you know what do you really you know about that you know about the history uh i know some history i don't know all of it should look i watched gladiator 2 the other day does that count how is it uh i mean after one like nothing compares to one oh i've heard it's very good denzel've heard it's really good. I love Denzel.
Denzel's awesome. I love it.
Is it worth watching? It's better. You think it was better? It's still a Gladiator movie.
Yeah. You think two is better than one? No, the original, in my opinion, is better, but two is great.
But the original. Okay.
But it's not one of those ones where they embarrass the franchise. Absolutely not.
Yeah, it did too much. Absolutely not.
Definitely embarrass the franchise. Did not embarrass the franchise.
It's not doomed to, but great move. Don't embarrass the program.
Don't embarrass the program. Connor's got a question for you, Jage.
Yeah, Jage, I believe right now the Eagles are the betting favorites. If they're not the lone favorite, they're either tied with the Chiefs or it's right around the same number.
But how do you feel about the Eagles? They're the odds right there. They are the betting favorites.
How do you feel about the Eagles' chances? And the question really right now is, hey, can Jalen Hurts get it done? Does he worry you more so than the other facets of their team, or what do you think their chances are looking ahead? I mean, I've been saying it for a while now. I think their defense is the undersung hero here as opposed to the offense.

I don't think Jalen has to shoulder the load for the entire team.

I think he has Saquon.

I think he has a great offensive line.

I think he has a great defense who's been playing well.

Jalen Carter's playing out of his mind.

So I don't think that he has to shoulder that whole load.

But I also don't think that you can have a betting favorite

not be the Kansas City Chiefs at the moment just based on their history, based on what they do, based on how they find ways to win. So I don't think that that's, in my opinion, accurate.
But I do think that the Eagles are set up for success because of how they are built, and they don't expect Jalen to have to win it on his own. Hey, Jage, we appreciate the hell out of you.
There's one last question coming to you live from Hammer. Don.
Don. Hey, Pete, Tom.
Yeah, Jage, I did have a question about, you know, how the Rams kind of handled Jalen Carter and how everybody handles Jalen Carter. They double teamed him on over 50% of all of his pass rushes, which I assume you have dealt with many, many times.
And then in the fourth quarter, they were like, you know what? I think we had this guy handled. handled and they just tried to single him and then he was let free like is that does that ever happen yeah so this is crazy it's a crazy phenomenon about playing defensive line and it's something you have to learn because it's one of the only ways to keep yourself motivated through a game where you're getting doubled all the time because it's unbelievably frustrating and aggravating so you're getting doubled you're getting doubled you getting doubled.
But what happens as the game goes on, I'm interested to hear AQ's perspective on this, is teams start to fall back into their routine ways as opposed to what they game plan for this game because the game gets going. Maybe you're getting into two-minute drills, whatever it may be.
You're setting your protections and you're going. You're setting your protections and you're going.
Or you're calling plays that these guys have known since training camp, not necessarily to game plan for this week. So all week long, the plan has been double jail and double jail and every time, no matter what.
But then as you start to get into the fourth quarter, you're falling into those old habits and those old play calls. And you just don't go and buy your training camp rules, as opposed to this week's rules.
And I've found as a defensive lineman, that's when I made a lot of hay was in that fourth quarter and that's what kept me going through all those double teams knowing at some point they're going to screw up and give me a one-on-one and that's when i have to win that's where that 10 luck comes in well i think the other interesting thing too is with with double teams i'd love to know how this is categorized and how they're figuring out if it's a double team or not there's certain guys j, JJ, you were one of them. It was, hey, we're going to slide to 99 regardless of where he's at.
Aaron Donald was one of them, right? But even if you remember early in your career when you had Wade Phillips as your D coordinator, he would always set the mic to the three technique. So we could always do that.
And the same thing whenever he went to LA, he would set the mic to that. Well, then they bring Staley in and now Aaron Donald's over here and the mic's over here.
So you to pick your poison. Are we going to Aaron, or are we going to the mic? And then also, if it's a 3x1 protection, the nickel's going to be over the slot to the 3x side, which is also where the 3-tech is if you're a nickel over team, right? So then you...
The center's always going to slide to the 3-tech, right? He's always sliding to the mic in the same. Yeah, right.
And so, like, at end of the day of course whenever this happens just listen just a sec you're always you know a lot of football you're gonna slot you're gonna slide to the mic and in the protection so is that really a double team or is that just part of the protection i guess is the center is going to be uncovered i've gotten a lot there has been many mike 99 games in my day where they don't they don't mic the mic they mike the d-line i know aaron donald's played face that as well there's a few guys that face that that there's nothing more frustrating and when you walk out for the first play of the game and they go mike 99 you're like oh shit this so explain that mike 99 they're setting the protection off of you normally whenever they say mike's this mike's this that's who they're counting in counting out right that's right it's's 52 and then you make your sort call, you make your slot call, whatever it is, right? Why is Mike 52? What does that mean? That's his number. Yeah, but what does that mean? Is that the starting point for you guys? Well, so you always read the protection, right? So you look at the defense, if it's too high, then the slot's probably going to be the Sam, the next guy ends the Mike, the next guy's the Will.
If it's one high, now the free safety's down over here, he's the Will, the next guy ends the Mike, the next guy's the Sam. So what do you do for your protection, though? You just basically find the middle of the three, and you're going to the middle of the three.
So there's going to be a center of guard and a tackle sorting three of most dangerous four to the mic. But if JJ or Aaron Donald is away from the mic, we might just say, fuck the mic.
We don't care. We will put the back on that guy.
We're sorting two. We're going to him it's no matter what it's all a numbers game it's just a numbers game they're trying to get the numbers to match up and that's the easiest way to do it is by doing it with the mic but then sometimes teams will choose a guy if they're that guy and they'll just say we can't afford to not have we can't afford to have that guy ruin the game for us so set it to him and sometimes that means somebody's somebody's free on the other side.
And if you've got a good D coordinator who can take advantage of that, generally it does. Is T.J.
Watt okay? Is he happy? I mean, he's not happy. He'd prefer to be playing right now.
Is he okay? For a different team. Is he all right? Is everything okay with T.J.? T.J.
okay? Going to come back stronger than ever? Yeah, that he's going to do. I can promise you that.
Is he going to play on the other side? On the other side? They do need to move to the other side. He's going to play on the other side and then maybe in the middle too? Not just the other side.
I mean, we talk about this literally almost daily, but it's not just going to the other side. That's not the easiest solution.
You have to move all over the place. You have to make it so they don't know where you're going to be at any time so they can't sit in their meetings and say, this is where he's going to be and set all their protections.
You have to be able to play a three technique over the nose. You have to be able to play the other side, three technique outside.
And it also has to be within the defense. The defense has to be willing to do that as well.
And you have to have a plan for that. And you've got to scheme some stuff up.
And also, if you find a guard who's a fish, right? We can just go here. Yes.
Yes. Take advantage of the fish, man.
There's a mic'd up segment where you find the guy. I think I've watched it before where you sit on the sideline.
And it's like, yup, we found him. We found him.
And I think it was a guard. You were going on the inside.
And then you just started cooking the guy. And then there's other mic'd up moments where you're like, they picked the wrong guy.
You remember this guy? Oh, yeah. Maybe we're just better.

Yeah.

And all the moments of him, like, this guy flips a switch out there.

Oh, yeah.

We love it.

We appreciate you, owner.

We do.

We appreciate you, man.

I miss it.

I miss it.

Bengals, maybe.

I maybe miss it. Maybe.

James Trafford.

If he does it, dude, I would be – because it would be the most incredible feat in the

history of sport, I think, if he went 19 more games.

Oh, yeah. No goals in soccer.
In the G League, come on. Yeah, that could be.
It would be impressive. Never seen it before.
I would gladly do it. Better than two straight Super Bowls, no doubt.
Starts today, 2 p.m. Who are we playing again? Plymouth Rock.
Argyle. Plymouth Argyle, bottom of the table, absolute shite.
They're a tough team, though. No, they are absolute shite.
They are tough. They've got a couple goal scorers that could maybe put this entire Bengals situation in general.
Oh, yeah. Big Jim.
When James gets it on his left boot, he shapes that fucker. Bends it like Beckham.
They go, what a dig by James, old Jimmy lefty! That's why he fucking shapes that thing. And then the Cincinnati Bengals' entire Super Bowl hopes next year.
In the back of the net. He buries Burnley early.
Yeah. I feel like the Bengals' D-line's already got a few white guys with arm braces on.
I feel like they've got that. They're getting shipped.
Yeah, I don't know if Hendrickson's going to be there, is he? I don't know. He deserves a lot of money.
He's earned a lot of money, so we'll see what happens there. Our Chase has earned a lot of money.
Congratulations, buddy. Bet on yourself and won big time.
Still has another year and then a franchise. I hate that process.
Bring that back to the PA conversation. Because I was the first year of that.
My first year was the first year of the 2011 CBA. Trent Williams was drafted in my same spot the year before me.
I believe he made four years, $23 million. And I was drafted in the exact same spot the next year it was four

years 11 million dollars and i had a fifth year team option again this is all perspective you can't complain about millions of dollars no shit but they had the team option and then they can franchise you and then they can franchise you so the team has control for seven years you're screwed man i got so angry you're a rookie year is that where it happened is that where it started yeah i i told the rep is that where jj wah started is that where it started shane was there shane gillis was pissed i was tackled i let him know i was like we got screwed here and they were like we don't want rookies to have all the money i was like well and the whole you don't you have to understand the entire ecosystem they didn't understand the ecosystem nope we told them that the whole time that's why it's snowing in New Orleans. And they knew you were right.
That's why they were like, this guy's name is J.J. Wai.
They tried to deflect. That wasn't the case.
You were J.J. Wai.
Big break. At the moment, he's Shane Wai after the national championship.
There is maybe a couple extra L's in that last name, isn't there? Shane Gillis. That's a shame.
We don't love that. We may or may not have talked to him since the game, and he is heartbroken.
There's a lot of deflecting going on. Down bad.
Yeah. He's been firing his shots.
He really was. He became the mascot of the team there for the last few weeks.
Yeah. He's the guy.
He got paid to do a prayer. kind of goes without saying you know it's bad juju probably example of a good commercial he chose a good commercial to do because that turned out good yeah well i think shane's creating all his like they give idea and then he is producing it and that's why they are amazing super talent obviously well i'm sorry talent.
That was Shane. Extra El Gil.
What a run by that Notre Dame team. Has Saban called him since the end of that game? We had to fool.
We don't. Saban wants to beat the shit out.
Yeah. Yep.
We don't know if that's true. What if he did just choke him? What if he went to Shane and just grabbed him and choked him? What would Shane do? Oh, hi, Shane.
All right. I also want to know this.
Maybe you've talked about it, but Ryan Day seemed legitimately mad about the Lou Holtz thing. Has he done an interview? Yeah.
Has he done an interview since with you? And is it an actual tense thing? In the room? Like this one I just did? The one where you're sitting down with both of them and then yeah yeah i thought ryan handled it awesome i thought it was hilarious actually yeah i thought it was hilarious because there was more he said in there uh that they edited out when he was talking shit to me and to ty he was basically what do you guys do so you guys just sit down and say how am i going to do something absurd or something like he was it was very yeah i saw that but like there was a part of me when he said because when he said you guys have already got me with this shit once yeah it to me made it seem like he was like all right guys like i'm not this isn't going to be my running joke i'm sick of this shit no but i was wondering if he was actually no no look he was actually he was i thought it was like the best way he could handle in my eyes when i was in it i was like this is the best way to handle and there

was 14 people in that room i mean it was a pretty packed room with a lot of people of course stiff stiff stiff room but i thought it was the best reaction personally like when i saw it i think he handled it great i just wondered if there was actually a little underlying like so here's the issue what for ryan day and he knows this and it's maybe us taking advantage of a situation aj being on this show every day okay this guy's like royalty over there in ohio like actually you know what i mean rightfully so bingo ohio state ledge i mean there's a reason so i think ryan day knows our shit like i i think ryan like knows i think ryan knows our show and i think ryan knows like we are just fucking all right like i think ryan i thought it was great out of ryan day me too like as it happened and then we were talking about it afterwards didn't even think like day before national championship like that didn't even cross off yeah that's it that was not even a certainly cross for mine it was not for mine it was not even across my when i heard it was happening across my i was like i don't know how it's going to go to be honest see i didn't think that's what happened that's what crossed my mind when he was like i got a guest for you and i in my head there's no way to bring it out right now oh see i didn't even think about it that's part of the problem i think with this entire thing is like we go to dublin the crowd in the bar can't hear us there was no other option other than me drinking 30 beers with these people because they couldn't hear our show these people all came couldn't hear us they're going to at least get something out of this. Zero other option

other than chugging beers. Then I wake up the next day

and I got a lot of people attacking me for that.

You and I are never going to see things the same.

Because in my head, there was no other

option, especially for the people being there.

In that one, no other option.

They're playing Notre Dame,

Ryan Day, Marcus Freeman

are there. I think we're cool with all

parties here. It has just gotten brought up again, like in a very recent press conference talking about it.
That was the big thing. So in my head, there's no other options.
It's just so people can get down. There's not even a question of whether or not it's good.
And then immediately afterwards, people are like, I can't believe you did that. Some people in the room, and I'm like, what do you mean? I don't even know what you're talking about.
And then I yeah probably not the right time i guess but no it is the right it was the only right so you had to be there that's what makes you great that's what makes the show great that's what makes you great that's what nobody else on the planet can pull that off if anybody else if tom rinaldi sat down and tried to bring in a fake lulz to the interview like that ain't flying like you're the only person that could possibly do that. And it was great.
I thought Ryan Day looked good coming out of that piece. He did.
And also, if that goes absolutely terrible, Pat's going to say, we're not going to run this thing. Yeah, I don't like getting.
Yeah, I'm a big let's not bury people guy. So if he didn't handle it well in my eyes, if I didn't think it looked good, we would have said, let's just end it.
As I as i say it's over i am surprised you haven't had the golf cart driver on the show yet i thought we would have that by now we had will will's good will was sitting right behind her that was great told the story okay we we got to the bottom of it i think she was also a menace on the field which has been we've only seen four seconds of her driving her worst moment absolutely worse and i don't know how she didn't kill anybody on the field. That's any indication? I don't know how.
They probably got the truck out the way. Yeah.
Move! She was saying. Hit the horn.
That's never comfortable to be the people on that cart or in that escort while the people are acting that way, by the way. You always feel uncomfortable.
Like, there was this GBI, which I don't know what that is. Is that Georgia Bureau of Investigation? I don't know.
Probably something like that. This guy had a fucking thing on.
He was like my security guy to get me back and forth. He was leading the way.
Playing no games. None.
Yeah. I don't have time.
Coach Day was, he took a neck shot or something there because he was walking a little. I didn't notice it until Will said it, but he was walking a little gingerly there.
Whiplash. Guy just called Whiplash.
All right, great. I'm a national champion.
I'll go Whiplash. My neck kills.
All right, sweet. Going to feel great.
He's going to be sleeping like a baby tonight. Off right.
What a time. What a moment.
It'll be remembered forever. And, lady, you're doing great.
We appreciate your sense of urgency. Now, she had an eye on that wall, though.
Like, very clearly saw the wall. She smiled through it.
She smiled right through it. Give her a lot of respect for that.
How about whenever she was going to back it up? Look at this. All those dudes are still sitting on it.
Still sitting on it. Hold on, hold on.
Let me go ahead and lift up and pull. She'll start to pull.
All those people are on there. A thousand pounds probably on there.
Let me go ahead and pull this thing out. That is absolutely totaled, man.
gone the wheels everything is just what if they're gonna auction that thing off what by the way hold on even more they should autograph it and auction it off will howard laughing through it all yeah this guy's a guy yes will howard's a guy i think that's my biggest takeaway i think he's a guy he came on the show was good on the show as well i think he's i think he's gonna be a real deal on sundays I think personally. I thought that he's a guy.
He came on the show, was good on the show as well. I think he's going to be a real deal on Sundays, I think, personally.
I thought that he – obviously, I haven't watched every single house they came into the season, but the way he handled himself in that game and the way he just stepped up to the plate time and time again, very guy-like, I will say. How about third and 11, brother, to win it? Deep shot to Jeremiah.
I mean, that's, you know. Unfortunate situation to leave the DB one-on-one there with that for the game on the line.
That's tough. Yeah, Christian Gray, tough spot.
They thought it was going to be a run. They won heavy, though.
He said he won heavy with all goes. So I assume Notre Dame thought they were going to run one more time, kind of kill our last time out, and then try to play the field position game with McGuire punting it.
But instead, I love that Ryan Day, Chip Kelly, Will Howard, biggest moment, biggest decision, what do you do? Unload the clip. Let's go win it.
Just like whenever we saw Aaron Glenn for the NFC number one overall seed. Yep.
He brought pressure more than any other team the entire season. It's like in the biggest moment, what are you? Are you scared? Are you going to go? You say you are.
They what? I like Will Howard a lot. AJ, are you pissed that everybody keeps saying, like, the $20 million thing? Like, no other team in the league has a $20 million record? Like, I don't know why you guys seem to get pigeonholed.
I keep seeing everybody saying, well, yeah, that's what happens when you spend $20 million on your team. I'm like, what do you think other teams are doing? Everybody has that money.
For some reason, you guys of having an expensive team yeah i don't know why i mean i think now it's kind of coming around people that actually pay attention will see like people coming back and letting you know hey yeah like there's other teams that have actually spent more money than ohio state did and so yeah you know i mean the reason why is because the season started with that narrative we're i was a part of it i mean i was a big it. I'm like, hey, Ohio State's going all in.
They spent $20 million on their roster. They brought this thing.
And it's all because of Michigan. What Michigan just did.
Like, this is a make or break year for Ohio State. They're going all in.
And it was like openly known somehow. I don't know how we got the information.
But it was like openly known. And I'm not saying we broke the news.
Other people broke the news. I learned of the news, and we're like, yeah,

this is even more of an implication that this team's going all in.

So I thought it was a vital story to be a part of.

I wasn't the only one.

Everybody was talking about it.

But then as the season goes on, we talked about this a lot.

The convo was Ohio State spending, Ohio State spending.

A lot of these other schools were like, yeah, Ohio State spending.

Ohio State.

That was kind of the story of the year.

Because there's big checks coming from a lot of big places and a lot of them have uh four seasons a lot of them have inclement weather a lot of them have a lot of wealthy alumni yep and uh I think there's a real conversation going Caleb Don's best player in the SEC as a true freshman last year right true freshman last year where's he go north Quinshon Judkins best running back in the SEC where's he go north it's like there's a chance that the north does have a little bit more in the bank when it comes to alumni than the south how's that going to work out going forward are they going to get guardrails on this entire thing so at least there's some comps in some rules it's like we're in an interesting time right now but like penn state to the world who have a lot of rich alumni who would like to see their football team play well in a great spot smu even oh yeah smu has a lot of big money people around them in alumni they're in a great spot but i feel like a lot of the schools that have a lot of money around them are now being enticed to be like, hey, you want some tickets? Yeah, just give us $5 million. We'll pick up three players.
Yep, boom. That's starting to happen now.
It's like real deal. But Ohio State was the ones that were being talked about as the only group that was doing it in there.
But the annoying thing was, and Kirk and Dez got into it, but it was more about even i knew at the moment a lot of it was bringing retaining your roster keep a lot of these seniors a lot of these older guys came back yeah of course they got some studs but the majority of the money i think was spent in keeping the guys that were already there well i think that's a big part of everybody's you know like could alabama that's the thing i'm interested now because these two teams just played way deep into after the portal's been open what's going to happen now after this game how does that all work that's part of the reason I said I think that the Rose Bowl on January 1st should be the national championship is because you got to end this thing earlier so that all this other stuff doesn't keep floating into the different parts of the year like the NIL the transfers all of it I just I feel. I feel like ending this earlier just makes more sense.
You got a lot of games, bro. So many games.
It's a lot of games. It's a NFL schedule now.
It's legit. But they also got school.
Well, they at least have to act like they're doing the school. All of them have to act like they're doing the school throughout the entirety of it.
It's a lot. This season, this college football playoff was long.
It felt like anoff where like when the nba playoff start like in a lot of people's eyes those are the only teams in a league you know yeah like those are the only teams you're gonna see this college football season it feels like college football playoff was so long like only the teams that played in the playoffs are gonna be talked about in the offseason like if you didn't make it to the playoff it's like that's like two three months like so ago, you haven't even played football. Even the first round of the NBA.
People don't even start watching until the second round sometimes because there's so many blowouts in the first round of the NBA just like the college football player. It used to only be five games, remember? Yeah.
Now, starting with 12. Count down to one.
That's how you crown. A CFP national champion.
Champion. You heard it.
All right. Good luck to your Burnley.
We'll be back on the other side with D-Butch and AQ Shipley with some film breakdown. Jake.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Double.
Double. Double.
No, you got to shoot it, I think. You know, you got to throw the heart.
Yeah. Oh right.
Sweet, sweet, sweet. All right.
We appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, owner of Burnley, who's got a big one against the Plymouth Argyles coming up in about 30 minutes or so.
Ladies and gentlemen, J.J. Watt.
Thank you.

All right, let's take a break.

We got some film.

We got some accolades.

Yep.

We got some ball to learn on the other side.

And then we'll wrap this thing up

on a glorious Wednesday.

Russell Wilson, first hour.

J.J. Watt, second hour.

Holy shit.

People say,

wow, a lot of high horse in it.

Yeah.

I say, uh-uh.

Genuine quality ball talk.

Hell yeah. With a couple of the lads.
Mm-hmm. I think we fought off some narratives today.
I think so. For Russ.
No chance. No chance.
I think he's one of those people where you either love him or you hate him. I got to shit my pants.
This last like six minutes has been. Don't use the bathroom in the back.
No, yeah. I know.
I know. Well, it came out of nowhere this morning, too, you said.
It did. Your face right there.
I said, I think we beat some narratives, you know, in Thai. Just like a full fear set on.
Why don't you go to the to the bathroom okay we'll be back on the other side a lot of watch them

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He's wonderful.

That's A.J. Hawk.

He just won a national championship.

Let's go, Hawk!

Hell yeah, Hawk! For you, the toxic tables here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt,

nine-year NFL vet and F1 superfan, Darius J. Bullock.

Maybe.

Congratulations. I'm clapping for that.
Hey, uh. Fuck you, too, then.
Whoa. F1 superfan.
Absolute shite. It's a new day.
Lewis Hamilton. Yes, it is.
F1, are we in the middle of the season right now? No, no, no, no. Doesn't start until March.
Anybody watch the TGL last year? You're a big golf fan. I watched a little bit of it, actually.
Did you? On the internet or on TV? On TV. I had it on.
I was actually working on my swing, crafting at X Golf, and it was on the TV. Okay.
And Foxy, Detroit Lions fan. Yeah.
Golf super enthusiast. Did you watch TGL last night? Yeah, I watched it.
The Atlanta Drive kicked the hell out of the New York Golf Club. Once again, it was another snooze fest.
4-0. They got a lot to work on over there.
I'll just say it that way. Be excited to see what the numbers are.
You know, debut night obviously does its thing. Tiger playing does its thing.
Now it's week three. Saw Billy Ho coming in doing a dirty bird.
Oh, yeah. He's a goofball.
He's an absolute goofball. Billy Ho missed out on a massive Saudi Arabia check when everybody else was taking it, and now he's hoping to cash in, hopefully, for TGL.
And as a blue-collar guy, we hope Billy Ho gets an opportunity to do that. So I like to see him showcasing a little personality and pizzazz out there.
I didn't get to see any of it. I obviously DVR'd it, and I will certainly catch up.
they used you in the atlanta drive they used you in the uh the video saying all of these have been blowouts and atlanta drive said and we plan on keeping it that way and they lived up to their wow 100 they kicked ass from beginning to end uh the falcons owner he owns that team and then the owner yes he owns the new York Golf Club. A lot of celebrities in the stands.

So, yeah, it's quite the spectacle.

So, a lot of influence.

You know, a lot of influential people.

So, obviously, they're calling their friends to watch TGL and everything like that.

Ty, you are now one of the talking heads of TGL.

You've been used in a social media video.

Are you going to pay attention and really keep track of everything going on over there

in the TGL?

You know, it's interesting that they decided, because I didn't think for a second to watch

that last night.

What? Tuesday. Yeah, you know.
I didn't know what's happening. It's Tuesday! Patrick Cantlay doesn't really strike me as a, hey, this guy's got a big personality.
I want to hear what this guy has to say. Great call.
Maybe. I gave it a chance the first two weeks.
I did. I did.
I tried. Tigers team went out there.
They got the absolute shit. I'll maybe check it out when Rory is up next Monday.
Boston Common Golf Club. Yeah, sure.
I also don't get that. What connection does Rory have to fucking Boston? He's Irish.
So what? I was going to say. He from Northern Ireland, and I think they are more British than anything else.
There's a big discrepancy there. Yeah, two different irelands.
They're like, big, big, big deal. Exactly.
Big deal. I don't understand that.
Protestant Catholic situation. It's the same goddamn thing every week.
And one thing that's happening is they're getting slower. Week one, it was bang, bang, bang, bang.
Yeah, you know why? It was so fast. Patrick Cantlay.
Yeah, they're much slower now. What do you mean? He's the king of playing slow.
Remember Brooks was like, hey, I'm going to beat the fucking shit out of this guy if he doesn't move it along a little bit. Okay, I'm going to put some pressure on this asshole.
Everyone on tour hates him because he plays so fucking slow. No, he's probably a good guy, but you're talking about his style.
I didn't think it was possible to play slow at the TGL. We didn't watch.
If you could please inform. It was shot clock.
AQs had changed the rules. Yeah, they changed the rules, too.
There's AQ Shipley, 12-year NFL vet, also a golf enthusiast. He's a member of a cult out in Arizona that runs a golf tournament.
Yep, yep. And Foxy and I were talking earlier.
They're changing rules. What do you mean? So any of the shots that were 100 or I think it was like 125 and in previously, they would go from the front tees.
But since Tiger was air mailing the last couple weeks, apparently it was throwing off everybody's depth perception. So now 125 to like 50 yards is going to be at the front tee.
I'm sorry, the back tee. And then 40 yards and in is in the front tee now.
Get better depth perception. Or just changing rules week four.
That's huge. That might save the whole thing.
Yeah, that's a... You're right.
Because now we're going to start seeing from 120 chip-ins. See? That's what we've been waiting for.
It feels revolutionary. It feels revolutionary.
I haven't really seen much to understand what AQ is talking about. It sounds like an absolute groundbreaking change.
That's a game changer. That's huge.
I didn't realize that. I heard.
Yeah. Huge.
It's going to change everything. I'll go back and watch it.
Next week. Tuesday's coming around.
Tuesday's going to be here before we know it. I know.
Thank God. I can't wait.
Okay, so let's watch this. Front tee, back tee, a little bit different.
Big difference. Because that perception was...
Changes everything.

Yeah, truly.

I think we were told...

I might be mistaken.

You guys had conversations with these people more than I did, actually.

TGL has invited us to go down whenever we want.

Anytime we want, we'll get the whole facility to ourselves.

Who was that through?

Who was that from?

Do we remember who we would owe if we were to?

Vino was the one we were talking to. So Vino owns the league.
Yeah, exactly. Okay, Vino dog, genius, hard worker, juice guy.
I've never seen a juice. Yeah, he gets the money.
Vino gets the money. So once I heard Vino was a part of it and I saw the celebs in there, I'm like, okay, I'm connecting some dots here.
Yeah, now we know who's kind of doing that particular aspect. The only issue is he's not running probably the broadcast.
I don't think so. And they need to fix that.
No, it's a guy from NBC. Remember we looked this up? Oh, yeah.
It's at Tomorrow Studios. The guy who grew golf.
Bingo. What years? The most important one.
It's funny you mention that. No, sometimes you're in the right place at the right time.
What? And you get a guy like Tiger to come along, and you kind of change the face of golf. And ratings go through the roof.
Exactly. And guess whose shoulders that's on? That guy's.
You're right. His resume, you mean.
Yeah, exactly. It's certainly on his resume.
I'm bummed out that I had zero. When I thought about turning it on, it was over.
Because it was on at 7 or something? Then it had been on later before, right? Yes, it has been. 9 o'clock was the first one.
I think it was like 8.50 maybe. And I was like, oh! TGL.
It was already off. There was a college basketball game on.
And then I saw some of the clips. I saw a Billy Hole entrance.
Awesome. So cool....
So cool. Everything doesn't need to be that.
Horschel. It was sweet.
Horschel. Yeah, Billy Hole.
Billy Hole. Billy Hole.
Billy Hole. Entrance has got to go.
No way, man. That was the best part of the whole fuck thing.
That was the only clip that I saw. That was the only good part of last night.
Dirty Bert. That was sick.
That was a sweet entrance. That was fucking awesome.
Wait one second. I thought he was going to take his shirt off.
He could have. He's jacked.
I've seen him on boat. I don't know.
I said, okay, after that, you think fucking Atlanta GC is going to lose? No. Game over.
Yo, you golf fans, it's so hard to play. You want to see more of these guys' personalities and they show it.
No, no, no, don't show us anymore. I don't want to see their personalities.
I want to watch them play golf. That's all I care about.
Well, it's hard to watch whenever it's this cold and there isn't a season going on, so they're hitting into a big sim. Then they zoom in on the sim.
Feels like I'm watching a video game. Then we're in real life.
Then I don't know who's doing what. I don't know what the rules are.
How are we getting points? We got a front tee. We got a back team.
I just learned that. I've watched two episodes.
I did not know that was happening still. You know they can raise the lip, too, on the bunker shots? Yeah, they have to.
Yeah, it's super mechanical. They should have waited until after football was done because then we'd be like, man, we need something to watch.
Especially on Tuesday. If they waited after the Super Bowl, we'd be like, you know what? This is kind of cool.
No, they're getting all the... They're figuring it out right now.
Yeah, but that's kind of... Yeah, they are.
I want it to be good. Don't you guys want it to be good? I really want it to be good.
No, I think it can be good. I think that's the biggest thing.
There's just a couple things they got. All the stars are in there.
Not all the stars. We could still get Brooks in there if we want.
He's Brooks in us? No. This is a PGA operation.
Correct. Okay, so all the stars are stars at pga scotty no bryson what is scotty supposed to be the pga tour is also happening right now so it's probably a tough sell phil bryson um and everybody else they're they're on different we had already we said this is not the live golf this is pga so if we want to run through the live roster we can do that right now john ron dustin johnson's not in this either Do we want to go through the entire roster, we can do that right now.
John Rahm. Dustin Johnson's not in this either.
Do we want to go through the entire – Young, the one – the putting – Yeah, Com Young is not in. So these are all people that are not in this.
Let them in. Let them in.
We agree. We agree.
But I think BGA is a part of this entire thing. Has all the stars.
Yes. Has the tech.
Has the building. It's in there.
They'll find it. Yeah, when it gets good, let me know.
Matt Barry needs help. He's on an island the whole time and he's doing a fantastic job.
He needs more, though. He can't just run the show the whole time.
I don't know. I do love him saying every single time on every single shot, no matter what.
How's your heart rate? How are you feeling on that one? Do they have whoops on it or no? No, no. It's just like, okay.
I don't think these guys are that nervous. All right.
Well, Kiz was. He bladed that.
Kiz was boozed up. I don't know if he was nervous.
That's a difference. I think he might have been boozed up.
What did that guy shoot this weekend? Quantruplet? Quantruplet? Oh, yeah. Quantruplet? Bogey? That's crazy.
That guy. Went from 600 to plus two.
That poor guy. I mean, it did look difficult.
That hole was stupid. Yeah.
Bunker? Yeah. Golf is so awesome.
That's why we hope TGL is good. He'll figure it out.
How many more weeks of it are there? What? Not enough. I don't know.
That's the answer. No, because that's what I was like.
I really think there are only like five or six weeks left. Is there a playoffs? Are there playoffs? Oh, yeah.
Yeah, there is playoffs. It's crazy.
I don't know. They keep score.
I don't fucking know. I thought the one team lost like four different times and no points changed on the scoreboard.
That's my issue, too. Did they throw the hammer down? No, they weren't throwing the hammer down at all last night, which is bullshit.
And I know Tyra's pissed about it. That's double points.
Double points for the hammer. Hammer down holes are fucking nuts.
Hammer down sounds so cool.

Yeah.

Sounds so cool.

We need to watch it more.

We haven't even watched it.

I watched the first two weeks in the entirety.

I had it on TV last night.

You were playing video games.

I was watching American Prime Evil.

Primeval.

Primeval?

Primeval.

I don't know how to pronounce it.

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Peter Berg.

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Peter Berg.

Number one on Netflix for a few different days.

Congrats to them.

Thank you. Primeval or Primeval.
Primeval? Primeval. I don't know how to pronounce it.
Peter Berg.

Peter Berg, Jim Irsay.

Peter Berg.

Number one on Netflix for a few different days.

Congrats to them.

I've heard that's a great.

It's pretty good, yeah.

I like it a lot.

Those throwback ones seemly doing really well in our era right now.

Society would like to watch the crazy shit that happened before.

More killing.

We've got some crazy shit happening now.

We'd like to see what happened back then as well.

I had no idea about Brigham Young. What's that? I learned about him.
What'd you learn? Just learned about him. That's how you operate.
On American Prim Evil? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was very defensive over Utah.
Bit of a gangster in some ways. Well, you guys said we got the gold boards, gold plates out of upstate New York.
John Smith. This place is ours now.
Let's just say not every religion is founded on squeaky clean values. You can say none of them.
No. Could say.
There's a few. There's a few out there.
Buddhism. Super squeaky clean.
How about these monks? I see these monks walking up these cliffs. They're like squeaky.
That was pretty cool. Did you see that? Oh yeah.
Just straight. He had a different trail.
It feels like they should have maybe won with the trail he was going on. You had the ropes right over here, and then there's a monk just walking up over here.
I didn't see this. Strong feet.
I didn't see it either. It was unbelievable.
He had his Chi right. Really? He did have his Chi right.
Always. He's wearing a dress.
His monk thing, yeah. Yeah, what are those? I don't know.
It looked like just a normal hill to walk up, to be honest. I think so, too.
Yeah. We got ropes.
Jay Leno's not making it up. And then.
Oh, boy. Jay Leno's not.
Yeah, that might have been the hill of Jay Leno. That could be Pittsburgh.
Yeah, it could be the Jay Leno in between the best westerns. It's like one of those goats.
One of those goats that walk up those mountains sideways. Oh, yeah.
That's what he is.

Well, isn't that what we learned, too, from the Middle East?

They're able to sprint up and down these rocks that are just at a different level.

I'm a good hill guy.

Just like I'm a good creek guy.

Skip Stones.

Did you ever hear Skip Stones growing up in Ohio?

Yeah, I still do as an adult.

How are you?

How many skips do you think you're getting?

I'm legit. Would that guy have like 42? Is that what you said? That was his championship record? World record? I think it was like 70-something or 80-something.
88. I mean, if I had this guy's rock, if I had this nice, smoothed-out, grinded-down rock, I could get up there.
Well, that's part of the process. He's got a pitcher.
He's got a rubber he's pushing off, too, so he's got power. This is just a championship throw for Kurt Steiner.
This is not his best throw. This is just one of the lights were the brightest when the water was the smoothest.
We have some breaking news, ladies and gentlemen. Trent Baalke has been fired as the Jacksonville Jaguars general manager.
If you do recall, Shahid Khan, also known as Shad Khan, the owner of the Jacksonville Jaguars, was on a zoom press conference with Trent Baalke they were the only two on the screen and the media asked if the new coach comes in and wants a new general manager will you adhere to that and he said absolutely and Baalke just had to sit there and say well I guess I could be gone and that is certainly the case now Baalke out is that because of a head coach coming in and saying i like this particular general manager this is how i want to go or is this potentially shod khan realizing that maybe nobody wants to coach for his team because he's keeping balky who's been around like 10 different times and has always survived bad situation shod khan says following several discussions with trent balky this week we both arrived at the conclusion that this is in our best mutual, best interest, respectfully separate, effective immediately. Turned off his fob.
Trent leaves us with my deepest appreciation for his efforts over the past five seasons. Ethan Wan will serve as interim general manager and play an important role with others as we continue the process, the interviewing candidates to serve as our new head coach.
I am deeply committed to building a winner here in Jacksonville and look forward to introducing a new head coach who will make that happen for our players and fans alike. A lot of people are going to meet us and say, Sean, you could have fired this guy weeks ago.
Bingo. Could have fired this guy weeks ago.
Could have already been in the process of interviewing new general managers. Maybe, you know.
But I think Sean probably had a comfort with Balky, obviously. That's why he stuck with him.
And maybe he wanted his insight for the hire. As soon as he said, though, on that Zoom call that, yeah, I'll fire this guy if somebody wants somebody.
That felt like that was the writing on the wall. It now takes place.
What happens next for Jacksonville? We shall see, AJ. Yeah, I mean, I would imagine that they have their head coach in the sights.
Like, they're about to hire their head coach. And he either didn't likealky or had his own ideas of who should be the GM, I'm thinking.
But, yeah, this does feel like it should have happened a month ago. Yeah, and I think Jacksonville Jaguars fans are going to be okay with this.
Yeah, I think so. I don't think they're going to be tore up, D.
Butch. He's had some solid picks.
But, yeah, with two offensive-minded head coaches, because wasn't it rumored that Liam Cohen was going to be offered his job?

So maybe he was like, nah, not going to go there.

So you put that either on Trevor Lawrence, the quarterback,

don't want to work with him or don't want to work with the GM.

And obviously Ben Johnson choosing to go to Chicago.

So if two offensive playmakers saying – or play callers saying like,

nah, that's not the destination for me,

I probably had to have that conversation to figure out, okay, maybe we get a new coach in a gym to come in same time so all eyes are on coach sala potentially go to jacksonville now i know he was interviewed at other jobs i think he was interviewed in dallas i think he's been i assume he's being interviewed in a lot of places because of what the jets became after he left and what the jets was like whenever he had to deal with it i think everybody outside of the jets is like do you really do you really have an opportunity there? Does he want to be a defense coordinator again? Which I assume he will have the opportunity to be if he wanted to go to the San Francisco 49ers. But he's been interviewing a lot for these head coaching jobs and it's like, Jacksonville he has ties to.
So Robert Sala, I assume if he has ties to Jacksonville and the Kahn family likes him, if he wants to be their head coach and he doesn't want Balky to necessarily be there, that could be a reason why they move on from Balky. Absolutely.
I read about 35 tweets this morning that said as soon as Liam Cohen pulled out of the race, it was basically like everything came out about Trent Balky is the reason nobody wants to go there. Okay.
And that was the biggest thing that I kept reading. Which maybe they aren't saying that, but that's an easy thing to kind of declare if you watch how it's all kind of going down and once again could have seen this coming i i think everybody in the football world kind of saw this one coming shot con had to see it for his own eyes we think what do we expect there yeah maybe you know joe brady still kind of out there as well yeah another offensive guy the bob solid thing is The Bob Sala thing is kind of interesting because, you know, you go from one organization that has, you know, an owner and a kid that's a little involved, and then the Jags, you could argue, is almost the same situation with an owner and a kid who's a little involved.
But I don't know. Maybe it's an adult.
He's an adult man. He's a chief football strategist for the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Yeah.

Tough, too.

Which I believe.

He did.

He took a Tony Khan driver, showed up to work the next day.

Which, I mean, gritty.

Definitely.

Again, I don't know how much that helps you win football games,

but I do think that it's definitely something Salah would be familiar with.

I don't know what Trevor Lawrence is thinking.

Man, all these offensive-minded coaches

don't want to come coach for me.

I think Trevor understands the situation down there in Jacksonville.

I think he knows.

I think Trevor wants to be a part of the solution.

I think ShotKon wants to be a part of the solution.

I think Jacksonville Jaguars fans are

yearning for a solution.

And you move on from Trent Baalke, I assume Jacksonville

Jaguars fans say, okay,

alright, here we go. I think they're probably excited, AJ.
I think they're probably pumped out there. DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU can't, he doesn't know if he's ever going to get another head coaching opportunity.
You've got to take that. If they offer it to him.
Joe Brady, maybe. If.
If, if, if. We don't know.
Pete Carroll, if, if, if the Raiders offer him the job. Pete would be interesting.
If I was a team trying to bring in a coach, especially a place like Jacksonville, I would definitely bring Pete in and kind of see how it feels with him there. And they've done something in the past.
You know, Coughlin, obviously, he's vastly different than Pete, but they have had older, successful coach coach been around as a consultant and as a coach down there in jacksonville um pete carroll being a head coach he's being linked to las vegas at the moment not that that's real people have been linked to places a lot of different times and then obviously as offers change as situations change things can change it's a fluid situation but what we're being told and hearing out of las vegas is that tom Brady's running this shit. This isn't like Tom Brady's just flying the wall.
No. This isn't like, oh, how does this go? What we're being told is Tom Brady is the one asking questions.
Tom Brady is the one kind of conducting the interviews. Tom Brady is the one that is kind of figuring out what's the right way, what's wrong.
That's just from our source, CIS. Which I think is is why mark davis wanted him in there so much but once again this is going to feed the narrative about this guy's the actual owner we want what he's comments what are we what are we doing it's like it's tom brady it's greatest of all time we should like that he's back in the game but i don't think a lot of us expected him to act as if he is owner of raiders we assume this is just going to be an investment type thing go shake hands type thing they're hiring now and he's very active is what we're being told aj hook well why if you're mark davis why would you do run through the whole process of bringing tom in we know you had to go through all this stuff get it okay and everything why would you do that if you didn't want tom's input i mean you're you're the dude's paying to come in there and let you know his opinion on what's going on I guess so yeah of course I well I would want I want Tom in on the interviews if I'm Raiders guy absolutely and I guess I should have expected that but I don't think that I didn't think that's how the NFL ever goes like there's minority owners all over the place people have a percentage of a team percentage of a team percentage of team Dave Tepper used to be one Haslam used to be one like a lot of these guys go from being minority owners to teams to being okay now they know the business they're in with the nfl they've shaken the hands they can get approved they can get the money they can own a team it's like in this particular case it's like tom brady hard to get through because the value in which mark davis wanted to give it uh to tom which i think was a discounted value little hometown discount for tom brady to get in once again, we as players love.
Give the greatest player of all time a little bit of, you know, relevancy in ownership matters and how the league is going to run. We like that.
We like that a lot. But I thought it was going to be – I didn't think Mark Davis would be like, yeah.
I mean, you only – Don't run it. That's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to get the GOAT.
I know. You know what I mean? And I should have expected it.
I guess we should have expected it to be this way. But like what we're being told is like, hey, welcome to my office.
Well, we thought egos. Don't you think egos usually get in the way? Like, no, Tom can come in and be a minority owner, but that's what he is.
He doesn't have any say in what we do. So I give him credit for actually listening to Tom's opinion.
Think about the other minority owners of the Raiders going like, well, how come we don fucking tom well are you tom brady yeah what's your name well then well that person has to have enough money to be a percentage owner of an nfl so i would say their ego very large oh so i didn't throw touchdowns okay i only started a company that fucking saved 10 000 people's lives you know like the egos at that level with that amount of money because everybody you would think is successful or comes from a family that is very successful. Those people obviously haven't proved anything, so I'm not saying that.
But like Tom Brady running it, I think, is a good thing for the Raiders. Not a bad thing.
I think this is a good thing for the Raiders, not bad at all. I think it's a great thing because if you have a guy that has won everywhere that he's been, literally that was the whole narrative when he went to Tampa, can he do it without Bill? He does it without Bill.
He has seen the way it's supposed to be run. He has been in an organization where they had players that won it and what it takes to win it.
Why would you not listen to this guy? He understands everything about winning. That's why he was calling Lambo, Bill potentially, saying, hey, this is my first time really.
This's my first owner cycle here. We got to hire a lot.
What should I be asking? What should I not be asking? He's very well-researched. Everybody knows that.
I think they're going to get it right maybe. They don't have a quarterback, but they're going to maybe get it right over there.
Obviously huge. You talk about ego.
Shit. Mark Davis, you want to win.
Al Davis, they won. Just win, baby.
They won Super Bowls. They won it.
That is who made that iconic. That's an iconic brand worldwide.
So if you're Mark Davis, you want to win and kind of take your own era. So I can see him definitely stepping back and let Tom run the show.
Imagine the people interviewing him, walking in. Mark Davis sitting down.
Tom's sitting down. Who do I say hi to first? The guy with all the money.

Mr. Davis, good to see you.
And Marco's talking to him, buddy.

Yeah. I'm out of here.

All right, Coach. Mr.
Brady. Just here for fun.

Yeah.

Sitting in the corner playing Game Boy during the interviews.

No, he's taking notes.

I doubt it. Tom, how do I beat this guy?

You guys got that one

guy. We don't want to out it.

We don't want to be a part of that. There is a gaming console out there that has stolen everything from every other company and is in your hands.
Correct. And it's the GOAT.
It's popped up in my algo. It is the GOAT.
I can't believe they're still getting away with it. I thought it was a Game Boy when I saw it.
Yeah, but it is Game Boy. It looks exactly like a Game Boy.
But it is... Switch, Game Boy.
There's no way they're paying royalties for all the games at the end. No.
No. No way.
Straight off the black market. There's like a thousand games in this thing, right? In movies? I got 21,000.
Yeah, bump that up. But basically got every game from every console ever.
Was it $40,000? How much did that cost? That's like $150,000. $110,000, maybe? That's what I'm saying.
I don't like that we're even talking about it right now because there's no way that this thing is supposed to exist. It's worth every penny.
But it's like showing they got ads for these things and it's like, look at this. We've taken everybody's shit.
Great battery. You can have it now for the rest of time.
They got movies in there, too, right? Isn't there like some movie stuff? Who makes it? No movies. We will not reveal who makes it.
But there are enough games in there to last you a lifetime. Is this black market type stuff? No, it's being marketed.
Like it's in Best Buy or something. No, no, no.
It's like an Instagram ad. You can buy it on Amazon.
I think it comes from the makers of TikTok. Pretty pretty close i don't know anything about that you do but yeah and i know that you do so do you no i don't yeah you do i did not i asked you what it's not i don't think i asked you i asked you well we're discovering you guys both said she she needs xi jinping that's you guys said.
No, we do not know how it got here. It didn't come in a red flag communist box.
I know that, and that's kind of a dead giveaway. I assume it was a United States made.
I assume this gave jobs to American workers. Is that right? I assume whoever did create this thing had the idea, like, this is going to spread freedom and justice.
There's a lot of joy, I will say, to whoever made this, maybe in China. No, again, I don't think this is a Shanghai province type situation.
I think this is a very... Are you guys sure of that? It sounds like you guys...
Not sure. I'm not positive, but...
I'm not leaning on that. Yeah, I wouldn't.
I mean, I'm not going to be sinking a bunch of hours into some Chinese gaming device.

It's crazy.

Exactly.

I'm not grabbing this thing saying Ni hao wa, okay?

I'm grabbing this thing saying thank you, America.

Country of origin for this thing?

China.

That's not the one I bought.

Okay, I was going to say.

Let me see.

That's not the one I bought.

Mine's got 256 gigs.

Mine's 128.

Boom.

Amen. Grow up.
That's not the one I have. If you get on Amazon, you should be okay, right? That is 30,000 games.
Don't show it. Don't show it.
Don't show it. The walking onto the plane and you both just having your head down on this thing.
I was like, what is this thing? Game Boy? They're steroids brother yeah and then you i think said 20 000 games on this thing i was like what games crap games all of them yeah what games all the games everyone played top gun i was like how is this thing even created how's this thing even created we don't care when i hit a link i bought it and i got it forever and they had a good battery life you guys played the whole flight yeah I mean, I forgot to bought it, and I got it forever. And they had a good battery left, too.
You guys played it the whole flight.

Yeah, I mean, I forgot to charge it, actually,

for this upcoming trip to Atlanta.

8% lasted me two days.

What's going on with these things?

Look, it's powerful. Well, it's crazy

they thought TikTok was disappearing and then these things showed up.

Hmm. This has

no connection to the internet, so this is

just... Hey, you want to have some fun? It has no connection to the internet? no it all comes all preloaded all that? old school spyware huh? what is the old school spyware? they'll have to come pick it up at some point there's a card in there? they had some shit before the internet certainly did I mean look I've taken this through customs so I know it's good okay alright well I'm happy you guys found something that makes you happy, no matter where it's from.

Oh, if I find out where, if it's from where we were talking about,

I'll fucking destroy that thing this afternoon.

It's, it is from there.

No way.

I'm under the impression mine was made in Sweden.

So.

Under the impression.

You're under the impression.

So.

That's your truth?

That's my truth until I hear otherwise.

So he thinks it's America. Well, mine only has 15,000 games.
This has 20,000. That screams Sweden.
So, I mean, that would make more sense. Got a Swedish gaming device.
Yeah. I'm happy you guys found that.
International gaming device. Exactly right.
International gaming device. Universal.
A lot of happiness has been brought through that. Speaking of happiness, let's get better at ball.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for two segments that make us all better every single week. And we're thankful for there's only a couple weeks left of this.
So we're going to enjoy every single play that is highlighted or maybe even low light that is brought to attention. It is time for OG in the Trenches with A.Q.
Shipley. Here we go, boys.
boys. Q.
What are we doing? We're going in the trenches of the divisional round? We are. And let's take a look at this.
And this is why I love this, right? It's third and four. You guys see that in the bottom right? Third and four.
So they go overload because they think this is going to be a pass. This is one of the best calls versus pass.
We've got two linebackers up. Let's just watch Mekhi Beckton, number 77.
Throw him. Boom! Throw his ass on the ground.
See you later. Okay, Mekhi Becton's 6'7".
I believe he's 350 or something. 360.
That's right. Supposed to be a tackle.
They move him into guard. This is a Stoutland University type move? This is...
No, this is just being an absolute unit. This is 6'7", 350, and just using your absolute strength.
The one thing I love about this, first of all, Mekhi Becton was a throwaway from another team, and he comes to Stoutland and becomes a dog. But this is what we have become used to seeing.
Let's watch Lane Johnson right now. Hand up.
Gone. He knows it every time.
He does it every single time. When there's still people able to make attack, we just know as soon as it's through the first part, Saquon's gone.
So Tooney goes from guard, body type to tackle for the Kansas City Chiefs. Makai goes from tackle, body type to guard.
Which one's harder there? Because I feel like on the inside, you've got to be lower. Isn't that kind of the lower thing? And Makai has played guard fantastically at 6'8".
He's got to be the biggest guard in the NFL. Got to be, by far.
Him and Fa Lele, right? They both are tackles, move inside, and both have ended up being really good guards. It's a lot harder going guard to tackle.
At the end of the day, Tooney has 31-inch arms, and he's going out there and going against Will Anderson. I mean, he was just getting pressed the whole game.
I feel bad for him out there because he doesn't deserve to be out there. He's so good inside.
But when you have the length and you have the size, you can get away with a lot of shit playing guard. Yeah, but it's a little bit more gritty and grimy on the inside, right? Absolutely.
Think they moved Tony back this week? No. No, they've got to stick with the continuity at this point.
You've just got to roll. This is the group that's together.
I can't wait to see Chiefs offensive line. Yeah, they didn't make it because they don't have any highlights on them.
Let's just be real. Let's just be real.
But you know who does have a highlight? Landon Dickerson. Oh, another one.
And this is going back to last year. We haven't shown many of these this year.
The old guy loops out, target locked, go get some ribs. Here we go.
Let's watch Landon Dickerson come across, help Saquon. Boom! Throw his ass on the ground.
Geez, almost takes out Saquon. Yeah.
Careful. What's he doing? He's a lot higher.
Yeah, I like that you're looking for work, especially on the gritty Philadelphia team. But watch Sa Saquon little pump fake.
How you doing? Boom! Saquon appreciates that. I know he got his leg a little bit there at the end, but he appreciates that.
Take this guy out of here. What do we got next here, AQ? We got the commanders.
We got the G-scheme. First of all, Cliff Kingsbury calling unbelievable games.
He's fearless. He's aggressive.
Awesome. It sucks that they lost Sam Cosme.
They're going to pull both guards here. First guy, kick out.
Second guy underneath. Let's watch him throw him out the club.
See you later. Don't want any part of Sam Cosme.
T's and P's. Torn ACL sucks.
That's huge. That's huge.
That's a big deal. That's the guy that circled right there? Yeah, first round pick, I think.
Maybe first or second round pick out of Texas a couple years ago. He's become a very good guard.
That's a big loss for them. Cliff Kingsbury not always all in on protection and run game, right? You should be just pass guy.

Yeah, he was all in on pass. Really didn't

give a shit about the run game, but Bobby Johnson

comes from the Giants. I think they are working

very well. Understands the run games every

bit to help the pass game, and they've done very

well with that. Let's go to the fourth quarter here with the commander's

offense. We got another one.
So, Fox,

you remember? They were blitzing the shit out of him. They were actually doing

a decent job stopping the run, so here we do. We block

the guard down, get the center around, and then you get a huge hole. Austin Eckler, this was a critical play in the game.
Fourth quarter, big chunk play. Creating a big, gaping hole.
Did they out physical to the Detroit Lions? That is the key to every team that won this week. And as we get further into the Buffalo Bills, we will talk all about physicality.
But yes,

Washington Commanders played physical on both

sides of the ball, and that's why they won. Usually,

the team that's the most physical wins

every game. Let's go in the trenches with the Buffalo

Bills, as you just pointed out. Deion Dawkins'

split is hilarious. Hilarious, and

his stance is hilarious. But the reason why I got this

clip on, we just got to talk about the

chopping. I'm fucking sick of it.

I am sick of it. I talk about it over and over again.

You chop the inside arm, and then that

dipshit in the back left throws a

Thank you. clip on.
We just got to talk about the chop and I'm fucking sick of it. I am sick of it.
I talk about it over and over again.

You chop the inside arm and then that dipshit in the back left throws a

flag at him for no reason.

This is not a foul.

This is using the defender's

weight against them. You chop the inside

arm. These two tackles are

better than everybody in the league.

It is a part of playing offensive line.

Work smarter, not harder. Chop their ass down.
Stop throwing flags! It was so casual by Dawkins. Yeah.
Let me post. He posts him with his left hand.
Boom. And then right hand chops him down.
Never once even grabbed a jersey a little bit. A.K., what's the rule say on this? What do the refs claim? All they do, this is what they do, they scan.
They scan. They scan.
And whenever you see that, a lot of times they think it's just a jerk pull down, and when that happens, they scan, they see somebody on the ground, it's like, oh, where's my little yellow thing so I can throw it at somebody and look like a dipshit. Hey, Bill Zmoffi, let's amplify this a little bit here because this is something that needs to be heard.
We tried to spotlight this earlier in the year. This is a Deion Dawkins move.
He's a special, special player with this. Absolutely.
Takes timing, takes power, takes precision. It's not just like any dipshit can do this particular move.
Deion Dawkins is a highly skilled chopper, and he even tries to help him down almost. It's like the casualness of it all.
It's a very skilled move. People claim that he grabbed the jersey there.
There's no grab anything ever. What the explanation was, I've seen this in slow-mo, but his left hand gets the inside of his chest plate.
And pulls. And pulls down with the chop.
It was a smooth pull. It was a smooth pull, yeah.
You can kind of because when he starts to fall, his arm goes with him. His left hand, rather, goes with him.
But again, I agree. The chop is great, and they should not let it.
And I call full bullshit on that because I just think his left hand's there and it just follows as the guy goes down. I don't think there's anything yanking down.
Well, and also, I think his finger kind of gets stuck in it as it's going down. But they're mad at offensive linemen for not getting their hands inside.
He actually has his hand in the middle of this guy's chest. That's exactly where you're trying to go, right, within the framework.
That's correct. And Spencer Brown has copied this move and has become great at it too as the right tackle.
This is a very big move for both these guys. Here's the other reason why it's bullshit whenever you try and take this move away.
Whenever a defender has to deal with this, now, instead of them leaning and all the bull rush, it kind of takes that out because they don't want chopped and thrown on the ground. It's a good play.
Let's not just ruin it, okay? It's like a fullback cut in you. AQ, it's like a fullback cut in the backer sometimes.
It'll make them think twice next time you're coming in there full go, right,

with your head down trying to kill the –

Also have a little balance.

Yeah.

Yeah, stay on your feet.

I don't care, Snow.

Yeah, because like, you know, just like AQ used to do in high school

whenever he was a basketball Hall of Famer in Western Pennsylvania,

you start leaning a little bit, we'll just kind of move the chair out,

bang, you're down.

Pull the chair out.

That's exactly what Dawkins is doing.

That's exactly right.

We love him too.

Shmuel me? Love him. He's got the snow goggles on.
Oh, yeah. He's playing loose.
Loose. Hitting 10-yard splits.
Yeah, that's insane. It's insane.
He's awesome. He's awesome.
Awesome. On the line of scrimmage all the way out like a slot.
Yeah. Yeah, they talk about an island.
Welcome to Dawkins Island. That's where you're at.
You could potentially get chopped at the end of the day. We need him to stop calling it.
That's a good play by Dawkins. Great play.
All right, let's stay with the Buffalo Bills offensive line. We got QB power at the end of the first half.
This was a huge play, kind of a dagger, puts him up 21-10. Let's take a look at his counterpart, right tackle Spencer Brown.
Boom, throws his ass across, and then gets up on the second level. Josh Allen walks in and says, get off me, boys, game over.
How do you feel about the power for Josh Allen? They used it a lot. So did riley leonard in notre dame yeah listen i love it as like a change up and listen when you got him who's six seven two fifteen can always get you four or five it's always got to be an option it always has to be an option especially in the playoffs josh allen uh not scared at all to run the power either no josh allen just spoke at a press conference either earlier today or yesterday about that play where there was almost a pitch back and he admitted that younger Josh probably does make that pitch and it did cross his mind.
It certainly was. And then he said he saw a hand come into his framework, which was that guy on the other side who could have snagged that thing and went and he decided to hold on, go down.
Josh Allen's playing his best football. We always thought to ourselves, Josh Allen was a prototype, but he always has his bonehead plays.
He'll just make a play where it's like, Josh, you don't need to do that. You don't need to do that.
But Josh was just trying to make a play because every play was supposed to be a touchdown. Now he's like, Mator, he's ready.
This Bills team feels, Josh feels ready. The Bills team feels ready.
But we said that before, and it's still the Chiefs. I will say this.
This is the last thing I want to say about this offensive line. When you play the Baltimore Ravens, they got the number one run defense.
They got Big Pierce weighing 400 in the middle. They got boys in the middle of that defensive line that want to bull you.
They out-physicaled them. The Buffalo Bills went 6-0 linemen and just took it to them.
When it came time to run in duo in the fourth quarter and just running downhill, you watched their offensive line taking Baltimore's defensive line and moving this way. Sweet.
All, now let's get the AFC the back-to-back Super Bowl champions, the Kansas City Chiefs. Where'd they go? Do they have any highlights? Nope, they got zero highlights.
I watched the film twice, couldn't find a single clip. Not one? Not a one.
They're good though. I don't know why They're back-to-back Super Bowl champs.
They are good. Number one seed in the AFC.
The team is good. The team is good.
Their offensive line is not playing well right now, period. They are not getting movement.
Both tackles are getting pressed in the pocket. Mahomes is running around like crazy.
They're ad-libbing with Kelsey, so they're making enough plays, and they're doing enough in situational football, and they're playing great defense, and they're out coaching. When you guys beat them in the Super Bowl, it was the offensive line, right? It was their offensive line, and it was specifically the tackles because the same interior three were great.
Our whole move was we're going to put Vito Vea, and I forget who, Will Golston on the outside. We put the two edge rushers, Shaq Barrett and Jason Pierre-Paul, collapse the tackles, get them to roll out into Pierre-Paul and Shaq Barrett, and then he's running for his life.
Todd Bullis. JPP had a big game.
Big game. Yeah.
That's the only time Pat's lost in the Super Bowl? Yeah. I think so.
Mm-hmm. Which is crazy that we even have that stat.
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Only time this guy has lost in the Super Bowl. It's not in a season or his career or anything like that.
He has enough Super Bowl games now where we're like, this guy's only the time he lost, he took advantage of it. You remember that Super Bowl a couple years ago when Pat was in it? Just like the one last year he was in.
Just like the one three years ago when he was in it. That is what Patrick Mahomes has come accustomed to.
Seven straight AFC championships is an insane stat. Yeah, he's only lost three times.
Med Burrow AFC Championship and then Brady with the Pats AFC Championship. It's insane.
He's on a run. Not just him.
The team. Offensive line.
We got faith in him even though he doesn't. We got faith in him.
That was OG in the trenches. Thank you, Shipley.
Let's move to the secondary, shall we? Let's go. Everything DB.
Good D, bad D with Darius J. Butler.
Yes, sir. Let's get to it.
We're going to start with the Washington Commanders. Had a big, big day against Jared Goff and Detroit Lions.
Pause it here. You pause it here.
Pre-snap. Rewind a little bit.
A couple frames. Pre-snap is showing cover three.
Single high. Looks like either man-to-man or cover three because you have that one middle of the field safety.
Post-snap, you're going to rotate and you'll see it rotate down here to cover two. Lattimore being a flat defender.
You got the safety over topwan martin and then the depth the depth of that if you run it back real quick actually let it keep playing because you see the overthrow you see the return great return got a great block by frankie louisville oh jerry golf this changes the game we talk about cut blocks and and look back blocks when you hit the quarterback like this this changes the game but right here jerry, Jared Goff, the protection up front, great, great pocket, right? They've done this all year. In the intermediate pass game, Jared Goff, especially when protector, they're coming off play action is one of the best quarterbacks all year long.
But great drops. You look at that defender right there on the hash mark.
He's in underneath defender. And then you have Lattimore, who's the flat defender, on the outside.
So, Jared Goff, you have a check down here on second and 14. Laporta right there in your face.
But he tries to go to the deep one, Patrick. And because of that dropper, he tries to put air on it, put too much air on it.
I always talk about tips and overthrows. You got to have those.
And whenever you get points on the board, it gets an explosive offense and get a hit on that quarterback. Big, big time play here from the commanders.
And it's obviously changed, completely changed the outlook of this game.

We're talking about the offense for the commanders a lot.

Defense also obviously holding up their end of the bargain.

Yeah, defense making plays.

And in the playoffs, especially with explosive offenses like this, turnovers.

Turnovers always matter.

They change the game, especially when you can instantly put points on the board

like Quan Martin did.

Another guy who had a big, big, big-time game, Mikey Sammer still.

We watched him his last couple games at Michigan when they were on their way to win a national championship. Big, big part of that Jesse Minner defense in Michigan.
And it's been a big part of his commander's defense this year. Two interceptions, this one in the quarter coverage.
Kind of in the fringe area. If you pause it here, J-Mo, ton of speed.
You got no safety help with this route and quarters coverage. You can kind of see both safeties kind of settling so as a cornerback this is a tough tough position to be in especially when you have a speedster like jmo out there because you're outside leverage so if he runs that post and every quarterback every coordinator around the league knows it we got that inside outside leverage so for him to undercut that and you'll see it better from the tv copy started with outside leverage stayed open and then squeezed and then squeezed, and then undercut J-Mo.
You know, you're going to want to put this ball a little bit over the top, maybe a little more inside, but great, great job by Mikey Sanders. Still turn it into the receiver once that ball got in the air.
J-Mo's a weapon. Obviously, he's an incredible celebrator as well, and I would have loved to see what he would have done.
He would have scored a touchdown. Oh, boy.
Literally anybody or anything could have got it, but that's a great jump on a play. Great job.
Awareness and great job finishing that play. Going up there, turning to the receiver, bringing that down.
He actually had his second interception, which was from J-Mo, on the double pass that Ben Johnson drew up, comment says, because he was ready to get the hell out of there and get to Chicago. Five total turnovers.
Four picks, three from Jared Goff, one from J-Mo, and a fumble. I mean, that's a massive day.
Turnovers. Turnovers are going to win you ball games.
And also stopping the run. You talk about stopping the run, being able to run the ball.
Who's the more physical team? Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, former Lion. This is a big time play.
Third and two. So, you know, we're in the fourth down revolution time where it's always you get some yards here.
If you get a no gain, you maybe go for it here. Get some for a tackle for loss.
They end up settling for a field goal right here to make it 13-10, I believe, at this point in the game. Big time play.
If you run that back one more time from that back copy, this is tough for a DB. What's he saying here? Lock it? Lock it? Yep, pause it.
So you got him and Slade down here and they're communicating on these two tight ends. So, hey, we're basically combo, in and out.
In and out. Yep.
In and out signal. Yep.
First one inside. First, boom.
So me and you, Pat, if I'm Slade, if I'm Slade, yep, I'm Slade and you're CJ. I'm looking at you right now.
In and out. So if 87 goes in, whoever goes in, you take him as that inside defender.
Outside, I'll take him. If they both come up, we'll take him as they come out.
Now, once that guy goes across the ball, boom. Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, his run gap, his run responsibility moves with 87.
Wherever 87 goes, he has to fit off of his block. So he sees 87 make that block inside.
He immediately shoots his trigger. Boom.
Yep. He's going to block.
He's got to fit off of that block. So a great job by him having discipline, understanding where to be in the run game.
When you are a DB, especially a safety, being able to make stops in a run game is huge, especially in the playoffs. You look at the fucking weather.
This is a big time play in this game. As soon as he saw 87 was not going out for a pass, he was blocking.
He said, all right, fuck it. Run responsibility.
And that's a tough, tough spot to be on third and short because everybody's gearing up for the run. run you got big personnel we got three tight ends on the field so everyone's thinking run but we've all seen it hard play action somebody extra line and big tight end he's in the end zone wide open because as a defender especially db you also have run game responsibility so a hard fake can kill you so having the confidence to be able to trigger this reading your keys we keys.
We talk about see a little, see a lot. You see that one key, you make a big-time play.
Love CJGJ. Being who he says he is.
Absolutely. He be who he says he be.
Always. Always.
Always. What a weapon for them.
Big weapon. And you talk about a weapon.
Jalen Hurts, he got banged up, so we'll see how healthy he'll be this week. But him being in that backfield with Saquon is a big part of why their run game is what it is.
You see the responsibility for defenders. Now, this is on bad D.
If you run it back, just look at the DBs. We just saw Chauncey Gardner-Johnson.
You have to want to make plays. You look at this corner down here.
You look at 26 running around blocks, not getting off blocks. Guys going underneath my lotter.

He can't even find anyone to block.

So that, to me, if I'm watching on film, you're not interested in tackling.

You're not interested in beating a block and tackling the quarterback.

Now, Jalen Hurts is a big physical quarterback, but you got to get him down.

So this is a big-time play by Jalen Hurts.

We'll see how healthy he will be.

I think we'll see pretty early on, but he's a big factor in that run game when you talk about being on the edge, you know, coming down here. I love that.
Hey, I love that the Rams defense is going to be able to point at those all offseason. Sean McFay's going to be able to be like, hey, our biggest game.
No, I'm not saying they did this all year. I think that young Rams defense has been awesome to watch, kind of develop and come together.
But, like, that play, it's hard to watch. That's hard to watch.
It's very hard to watch. So, those guys, you dread those moments.
And we always talk about cold-weather games. That's what shows up.
Like, you're not interested in hitting big people and hitting the ground. But this is it.
Like, you play it, you win. You win and you go home.
So, that's the benefit of being one of those cold-weather teams. We're in Philly, and now we've got a team from L.A.
coming out. You're already mentally thinking, hey, we're going to be solid in college.
Hey, we're going to be mentally tougher in this team because we're used to these elements. So when you come in and you put some shit like that on film, I'm sure those guys are sick.
Is this another bad D here? A good D? What do you think? Oh, no. Jaden's playing quarterback.
It looks like the Terry play. He just got play.
You saw the pregame speech from Terry McClure. When they turn that film on, you know what they're going to say.
Be who you say you are. He said, when they talk about me, he goes, I ride.
I'm him. I'm going to ride, he said.
They're going to say we some dogs, and he is a dog. You got four by one right here.
So you got Eckler offset to the trip side. Now, if you just leave it paused here.
Daniels this is a quick box for you this is first and 10 so he's just saying okay right now I got three over three up top you got branch you got the corner you got another safety so we got three defenders over three wide receivers so if I throw it out there it's two on two and almost like an Oklahoma drill now you got a one-on-one tackle but once Brian Brent gets into so right now he was he's starting at what we call the apex, right? So that's basically splitting. We see Caleb Downs do this a lot.
You split the bunch and you split the run so that you can still have a run fit, but he blitzes. So he gives Jayden Daniels the answer.
Now the math is on our side. Now we got three on two.
I just get it out to my playmaker. We make two blocks, hit it up the middle of the shoot.
Kirby Joseph is not going to be able to catch him. Got Guy outran there.
So you talk about this play. You draw it up.
This is one of those Friday plays where you script for success. Hey, bring the blitz.
It's going to be three on two out there. He's going to block outside.
He's going to block inside. Terry McLaurin is going to hit the chute.
Great job. Great execution.
And just making it throwing in, letting Terry, scary Terry be special. Yeah, run this.
Run this. There's somebody that is the entire face of Detroit here at the end of this.

I'll tell you when to pause it.

Scary Terry's going.

Scary Terry's rolling.

Pause.

There's going to be a dude that's about to show up right here.

Look at this guy.

What was he saying? Bummed out. What's he saying? That's no good.
He's bummed out. That was a hold.
No good. I think he was saying we're fucked.
It's over. It's fucking over.
It's over. It's a called run, too.
That was a called run. Good check by Jayden.
So that's why Cliff does that. If you guys noticed how the bunch was super wide, because you have to declare when you blitz.
So when you run the RPO like that, he knows he has to come because of that bunch super wide. You can't blitz from all the way out there.
And how about Jaden in the biggest moment making a play, making the right play so quickly? He's the guy. He is the guy.
That's the thing you see with him, like especially young – even sometimes old quarterbacks. Like, you know, Russ was on today, and one of the things that I think a lot of stillers fans or people that watch them a lot would say hey just want to be more decisive

whether you throw the ball away whether you decide to run where you make a throw and that's

what you see from jayden daniels and you don't typically see that as a young quarterback i mean

quarterback especially in the biggest moments always so calm and collected and then very

decisive you know huge downs third downs fourth downs two minute drill doesn't matter just very

very decisive throw the ball throw the check down throw it run, just make a decision and make it quick. Tom Rinaldi's mind blown.
Holy shit. All right, we have some breaking news out of the NFL.
New England Patriots have officially hired Coach Williams, former defensive line coach for the Detroit Lions and defensive run game coordinator for the Detroit Lions. He's now the defensive coordinator for the Patriots.
Vrabel's putting a staff together, Conrad. Yeah, they go all the way back.
I guess Terrell Williams was actually named associate head coach in Tennessee when Vrabel was there. Actually let him be the head coach for a few preseason games during his run with the Titans, obviously McDaniels.
We talked about being the OC. That was kind of assumed immediately.
I believe they brought in a few other guys from Tennessee. Other guys? A couple other guys.
Tony Mountain Dew. He is also coming in.
He's the running backs coach. And then I believe his Ernie Adams is over from the rams like they are slowly starting to put everything together keeping the same special teams coordinator because that group was so good this year jeremy springer so uh yeah the the team's taking shape feel very good about it and you know we talked about this morning still have like 128 million dollars in cap space so will be made, and Vrabel will be leading the charge.

Supreme Commander Vrabel is kind of getting it going now.

We are going to do a full salary cap dive tomorrow in the program

because where the cap is, where it has been in the history of the NFL,

and who has what for this upcoming offseason,

obviously very important conversations.

And we'll do some journalism on that tomorrow.

All right, D-Buck, great work this week.

Hey, D-Buck.

Hey, Q, what a time by you.

You really did well out here today.

Thanks, guys.

You said you don't believe in the Chiefs because they're offensive line.

But then the same mouth said,

Eagles have the best offensive line, but they're not going to win.

So, never ends.

I never know what to believe.

This guy.

I never know what to do with you.

Snip, snap, snip, snap.

They got a great offensive line.

Who? Philly. But.
Okay. Quarterback can't throw over the middle.
Jeez. Yeah, man.
This guy. He's a dirt bag.
Just saying. We'll find out if he can or not.
Sure will. No better time to do it than the NFC Championship.
Jalen Hurts, as you guys host the Washington Commanders on the AFC side, Chiefs and Bills. We got two great games this weekend.
Thank you for everything, AQ. Before we get out of here, you want to do a contest, maybe a giveaway? Because we only got a couple weeks left here, and we haven't had a lot of winners.
Let's do it. What are you going to do? I'm going to win today.
Are you? Yes, you are. Okay.
AQ, where did that ball land that you hit back to those motherfuckers that hit into you? It went over them. I think so, right? Yeah, it went over them.

I think it did.

You hit it pure.

I mean, it was fucking stroked.

Thanks.

It was the second one on that hole that you drove,

so it was like a mullet.

Sure.

Angry AQ.

Second team All-American.

Yeah.

Always.

The mullet.

It's a lot of pressure, though.

If he duffs that when he's super pissed

trying to hit that group,

that's a tough look.

Well, think about me being there, too.

I just tee another one up.

Yeah, he would have done that,

but I would have obviously reminded him of what just took place. know i feel like i'm good in those situations you know just kind of pointing out the things that are taking place right now in front of all of us like this is what life is right now it was a magical moment though it really was they did not hit into us again they stayed way back yeah they did we had our own course felt like we had our own course just shut it down yeah normally people plug it or cover it with grass.
You said, ah, let's send one back. Let's return fire.
Fire with fire. And you certainly did.
They never expect one coming back up the fairway. Ever.
Ever. Ever.
No. That's like a sneaky.
That's like Art of War. That is.
That's right. Yeah.
You let them know real quick where you stand. Yeah, you have no idea how.
You might have been the only person to ever hit a golf ball that way on that fairway. Ever.
Where did you pick that up from? Where did you learn that from? I don't know, but I also always felt real confident myself at the fact that I was – you guys remember the offseason to me. I was always 330, maybe pushing 340.
There was nobody coming to – Yeah. Yeah, you would have handled your business.
I don't think so. You certainly would have.
I wouldn't have chased anybody. We were just the two, but, I mean, We would have figured it out, obviously, I think,

if it would have went down. That was a good question,

Deebo. Where did you get that from? I was

shocked by the move.

Oh, shit. I haven't seen that.

Where did you pick that up? I go zero to 100

real quick

in everything. Yeah, but when did you

think to yourself, you know what, let's return

fire? I think after the first one.

Okay, you didn't learn your lesson? Okay, sounds good. It was awesome.
And then another one comes by? It was an awesome moment. Time to teach us.
All right, here we go. That was before social media, too.
I thought for sure it would have been a golf course fight. But instead, we got treated like royalty.
Scared the absolute shit out of those guys. That'll be the new move going forward, though.
It's a good one. Fireback.
Fireback. Good one.
fire? Who's stroking it today? Who wants to send one over? Because even if you bomb it over their head, they realize. Oh, yeah.
Oh, there are better golfers than us, too. Holy shit.
Yeah. AJ said he's seen it before.
AJ, you've seen that before? Oh, yeah. I've been in groups where that has happened.
Yeah. I haven't done it, but I've watched dudes do it.

AJ doing that with his ball.

No, I'm usually the guy.

I've accidentally hit into people a lot.

Yeah, we know.

Sometimes there's holes where there's a hill

and they go over the hill and I think they're way gone

and all of a sudden they're only 200 yards

and I drive one 150 yards over their head.

Then they get upset.

There's video reporting of Coop watching the Eagles win this past weekend. Is that right? Oh, he's staying up in a sweet clapping his ass off.
Good for Coop, dude. Good for Coop, dude.
He had two jackets on, I do believe. If I can recall, good thumbs up.
Big clap. Had a baby Coop.
Hey, congrats to the Eagles, Coop. Go get him, Coop.
That's a good clap out of Coop, by the way.

That's a good clap out of Coop.

We're all right.

We're okay.

Shits it back down.

We better fucking win this game.

He's so handsome.

Oh, yeah.

That's the best.

Coop.

He also sells the best Philly cheesesteak in New York.

Bar none.

Danny and Coops.

Hands down.

Danny and Coops.

Guess who's making them? Yeah, guess who's in the back making these sandwiches? He is. Bingo.
Bradley Cooper. You said it.
Bradley Cooper cooking up sandwiches for people when they come through Danny and Coops. Have you had one? I've seen a picture.
Looks delightful. So good.
I think you can only get it one way. You come in, this is the sandwich.

Is that what it is?

I think so.

Okay.

Boom.

Cheese with fried onions.

That's it.

That's like the Philly staple.

That's not it.

Okay, there's more to it.

There's love.

There's the tenderness of the meat.

The bread.

The hoagie.

The goat.

The whole thing.

He's what you're talking about.

It's not just.

That's it.

It's Danny and Coops.

Yeah. Where's it at? It's in, me too.
It's in New York, what part of New York? Do we remember where we live? That's what I wanted to say But I'm not sure I think it's lower Manhattan I think it's over there in Brooklyn I think it's potentially It's in East Village East Village Yeah, of there. Chinatown.
That's next to Chinatown down here. Coop would never put his shop next to Chinatown.
Coop might want to get his hands on that thing, that rig that you guys got. Yeah, he might.
Mine's from Sweden, though. It's not from...
Yeah, of course. We'll get him.
Sweden in town, of course. Shout out, Coop.
Happy your Eagles are doing well. Can't wait to see what you do next.
Happy birthday, too, Coop. Happy birthday, Coop.
It's a couple weeks ago. I think we probably missed it.
We missed it. Merry Christmas, too.
Hell yeah. And also, happy birthday last year.
We missed a couple. Yeah.
We missed a few. Wow, fucking happy Easter, too, dude.
I mean. Happy Valentine's coming up, too.
Yeah. Love.
We love, love. We saw him in there.
President's Day? That's coming up. Yeah, happy President.
We missed a few, at least. Happy MLK Day.
Yep. Yep.
Just happy the other day, obviously. Happy ML, love.
President's Day? Yeah, happy President's Day. We missed a few at least.

Happy MLK Day.

Just happy the other day, obviously.

And also last year's, we missed a problem.

April Fools?

Just kidding.

Hey Q, why don't you not be

a January Fool and why don't you win

50, 30 people.

I was going to say, you can probably do 50. I don't think he's made one all year.
50 people, $500. All you're going to do is put that football into that hoop right over there.
A.Q. Shipley, Penn State alum, Super Bowl champion, former coach and player for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Wasn't an owner, but he was damn near Jackie Moon. If he puts that ball into that hoop over there, 50 people are going to celebrate with $500.
A.Q. Shipley! That's a good ball.
Pretty good ball. You and Pagano cut from the same cloth.
This one, 30 people, $500. All you got to do is put that football into that hoop right over there.
A.Q., I like that you went after it there. You know, we talked about Aaron Glenn doing it.
Yeah. You did the same thing there.
You didn't hold back. You weren't nervous.
It was a free, free motion. Now, I don't know if you're throwing out hearts.
Okay? And if you do that, I think you should throw it similar to this football. But if you throw that football into that hoop right over there, 30 people, $500.
AQ Shipley, for the good of the people. Ooh, throwing tights by, though.
Trying to throw us in Illinois. Why is this thing going so far? Well, it's because it's the Baby Duke 2.0.
It is the perfect toss-around football. It's heavy, but it's soft enough to catch.

The laces are obviously there to help you throw,

but they're not too stern to slice and dice your calluses or fingers.

It's a ball that can be punted.

It's a ball that can be thrown.

It's a ball that can be a winner for 30 people of $500.

All you got to do is put it into that hoop right over there.

Baby Duke 2.0, available now.

30 people, $500. What a throw.
What a throw. That was awesome.
Never a doubt. Congratulations.
Great work this week. All right.
All you got to do is repost this post. Say something nice to somebody.
And put the easiest way to pay you. 30 people will win $500.
Because AQ Shipley put that beautiful Baby Duke 2.0 into that hoop0 into that hoop. It's a magical Wednesday.
We'll be back tomorrow. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living.
Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice.
It might change their life. Tone.
Come on a hammer. Done.
Tone. We're in this thing together.
Never forget it. All of us.
No matter what happens, wherever it happens, we're in this thing together. Let's continue to enjoy this life

and be thankful that we're alive and not dead.

Team on beat!

Team on three!

One, two, three, team!

Goodbye!