PMS 2.0 1282 - Aaron Glenn Hired As Head Coach Of The New York Jets, Russell Wilson, JJ Watt, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Speaker 1 Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. But this Wednesday, January 22nd, 2025, this program starts right now.

Speaker 1 Football is wonderful, and we are incredibly lucky that we get to talk about it every single day. We only have a few games left.

Speaker 1 Now, granted, they are the most important games of the year for the NFL. We got two conference championships this weekend, then we have a Super Bowl two weeks from then, and then we have

Speaker 1 a a whole lot of nothing. Then we have

Speaker 1 Mania?

Speaker 1 WrestleMania. Boom.

Speaker 1 Then we have

Speaker 1 NFL draft.

Speaker 1 Draft.

Speaker 1 Combine. Combine.
Drama. Yes.

Speaker 1 Stories. Yes.
Bullshit.

Speaker 1 NBA. Formula One.

Speaker 1 You shut your goddamn mouth.

Speaker 2 Sorry. Lewis Hamilton Ferrari.

Speaker 1 That's a nine-year NFL vet and Formula One

Speaker 1 Docu Series fan.

Speaker 1 No, sport.

Speaker 1 I don't think that's the one. Well, he said you were out on the side.

Speaker 1 I just never said that. Lane Sherman and Darius J.
Butler.

Speaker 1 That's a really nice footie you have on there. It is beautiful.

Speaker 2 It costs a pretty penny, but I like it.

Speaker 1 Well, of course, yeah. That's a society over there at G1.

Speaker 1 You got to really earn your keep over there.

Speaker 1 You got to pay tithes. You're going to be a part of this operation.
We're going to need a lot. You're going to have to watch the docuseries, which I think good is by all accounts, right?

Speaker 1 I haven't watched it in a few years. but it's the thing that introduced you to the game.

Speaker 2 Kind of. I actually caught on a random Sunday morning.
Then I went and watched it.

Speaker 1 This isn't real.

Speaker 1 Listen, we are retelling history right now.

Speaker 2 That's how I watched it.

Speaker 1 A lot of people watched a docu series on Netflix, which is awesome. Golf is launching its third season, I believe, of a similar type thing on Netflix, which I think is great for these sports.

Speaker 1 I think the NHL should do it. Obviously, the NBA is doing it with the starting five or whatever.

Speaker 1 All these tennis had a great one there for a while. NHL does like HBO 24 hours or something.

Speaker 2 They did a series with Amazon this past season that followed around like McJesus and Austin Matthews, a couple other guys.

Speaker 1 Those things are awesome. Those things are great.
I think that's great for development of sport.

Speaker 1 But with that being said, a lot of these sports are tough to watch night in, night out, especially whenever it doesn't matter as much. So what I'm saying is these three final games that we have.

Speaker 1 The AFC Conference Championship,

Speaker 1 which showcases a modern rivalry that people will be talking about forever. It's the new Tom versus Peyton.
It's the new conversation about who's the top dog in the NFL.

Speaker 1 Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Kansas City Chiefs, Buffalo Bills,

Speaker 1 or AFC Championship. Tell us if you've heard this story before.
Josh Allen, if he wins, will be the first time that he has beat Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs. Wow.

Speaker 1 But it'll be his fifth time beating him as a whole. You see, Josh Allen is 4-0 against the Chiefs during a regular season, 0-3 during the playoffs.

Speaker 1 When it's winner-go-home, every single time Josh Allen has had to go home whenever he's playing Patrick Mahomes. Now, is it Josh Allen's fault? Certainly not.

Speaker 1 I mean, the games that he has played have been fantastic. And obviously, there's a lot of different storylines that have ended those games.

Speaker 1 And Patrick Mahomes is Patrick Mahomes because Patrick Mahomes does Patrick Mahomes shit on the biggest stages, just like he did this past week, where he and Travis Kelsey had their most prolific game this season.

Speaker 1 Now, why is that? Well, it's because you either win or you go home.

Speaker 1 You win and you continue your journey to the top of Lombardy Mountain, which the Chiefs are looking to do for a third straight time, first time ever in the modern NFL era.

Speaker 1 And then the Buffalo Bills, well, they've been a team that can't get the job done. Josh Allen's the guy who hasn't won an MVP and doesn't look like he's going to win one this year either.

Speaker 1 And has he ever won a Super Bowl? Why are we talking about this guy? Why is Josh Allen the prototype that what everybody wants? Wow, if you can get the next Josh Allen, that's the quarterback you won.

Speaker 1 Then you hear all the people go, that ain't God. Why ain't got ever wins? What are we even talking about? He does win.
He's a fantastic footballer.

Speaker 1 But until you get a ring and are able to hang a banner in that beautiful new stadium they're building up there in Buffalo, that is how you're going to be judged forever.

Speaker 1 You can ask Dan Marino, who still gets that brought up about him, even though he's one of the greatest football players to ever walk this earth. It's chit-chatted.

Speaker 1 Peyton Manning was a guy who couldn't get the job done for a very, very, very long time. Then he wins the Super Bowl.
Big deal. John Elway, same exact type of situation.

Speaker 1 You're talking about when you win a Super Bowl, you get a lot of questions and and a lot of remarks taken out of your resume quickly. Josh Allen has a chance to do that.

Speaker 1 Now, obviously, going to have to get over his tallest task yet. And I put out a, you know, an X poll and got 62,000 votes.
That feels like pretty large sample size. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Pretty large sample size. 50% of the people that voted on this said the Buffalo Bills are going to win a Lombardy.
Wow.

Speaker 1 The Buffalo Bills are the team that are going to be able to figure out how to win the next one and then the big one.

Speaker 1 The Buffalo Bills are going to not only knock off Patrick Mahomes in the playoff for the first time, but they're going to be able to go ahead and beat whoever wins the NFC championship. A young gun.

Speaker 1 In the first year of a brand new ownership, first year of a brand new head coaching era, the first year of a brand new everything in Washington has a rookie quarterback playing football better than potentially any rookie quarterback in the history of the game.

Speaker 1 We thought C.J. Stroud was going to be untoppable.
We thought C.J. Stroud was incomparable.
We thought that C.J.

Speaker 1 Stroud's rookie year was going to be something that was never going to be able to be matched.

Speaker 1 And then this dude shows up in Washington with Cliff Kingsbury as the offensive coordinator and a litany of dogs across the board.

Speaker 1 Here's Terry McLaurin's pregame speech to the offense for the Washington Commanders before last week's massive upset over the Detroit Lions.

Speaker 1 Hey, we here. We to show.
Hey, everything you got inside of you, you got everything you need to be successful. No reason to be fearful.
No reason to have anxiety.

Speaker 1 You got everything you need is inside you. You live a great life.
But listen here.

Speaker 1 When this money goes, when this thing goes, the the only thing you really got is your name and your reputation what are they gonna say about your name what are they gonna say about your reputation what are they gonna say when they turn that film on i know what they're gonna say about me i'm gonna ride out

Speaker 1 they're gonna say we some dogs man let's get it

Speaker 1 be who you say you are man win on three one two three man yeah i see why they beat the lions i see why this team is who they are obviously brand new but you got a veteran like terry mclaurin who's had many successful years in the past in a transition era to relevancy for the first time long time which kind of replicates Travis Kelsey beginning of his season with our beginning of his career with the Kansas City Chiefs they were crop they were not good

Speaker 1 they were out then he matures in the game and then he gets Patrick Mahomes and they become this brand new

Speaker 1 up to the top Terry McLaurin's been waiting for the Washington Commanders Washington football team Washington

Speaker 1 oh was there no no he was not okay

Speaker 1 I don't he's been he was a football team oh g yeah yeah but he has been waiting alongside everybody else over there for the Washington,

Speaker 1 what was their name? What was it, AQ?

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, 12-year NFL Super Bowl champion AQ Shipley is here.

Speaker 1 How are we doing? They're the commanders now. They were the football team.
Then before that, where all their fans basically come from. Still wearing them.
Still wear all of the gear every away game.

Speaker 1 Sean Taylor played for him. Yeah, I remember that.
Great player. Great player.

Speaker 2 Redskins. Hail to the Redskins.
That's what it was.

Speaker 1 Redskins. HTTO.
A little bit too comfortable saying that. As a person whose face turns very red on a regular basis,

Speaker 1 sounds like that's potentially

Speaker 1 if the commanders then that's what it is go in a Super Bowl it's commanders forever. But there's a lot of people saying now's the time.
Okay.

Speaker 1 We've been able to kind of restore who we are, what we are. We have a brand new owner.
We have a brand new quarterback.

Speaker 1 We have a brand new everything, a brand new vibe in Washington as the commanders have Terry McLaurin who's been waiting for this moment. Remember, there's a lot of teams that wanted Terry McLaurin.

Speaker 1 Listen, you're going to let your entire career go into irrelevance because you're playing for a bad team. Why don't you come over to another? He's from Indiana.

Speaker 1 I wanted him back with the Colts bad, but there's a chance we're going to be able to get him back because you hear him talk. That's guy you want in the locker room.
Well, it's not just him.

Speaker 1 It feels like their entire locker room is bought in. Jaden Daniels is one of the coolest customers in the history of the NFL as a rookie being able to dissect everything.

Speaker 1 Even his Detroit Lions defense this past weekend who have been dominant and aggressive and have been shutting people down and confusing people all the season long.

Speaker 1 Aaron Glenn brought more blitzes than anybody in the NFL this season.

Speaker 1 And all Jaden Daniels did did was sit in the pocket and have the highest QBR against man, third down, fourth down, I think everything, as they go in to a tough place to play.

Speaker 1 Take on the Johns of Philadelphia.

Speaker 1 This Eagles team is tough.

Speaker 1 This Eagles team is grounding pound. This Eagles team is built for the moment.
This Eagles team just had to win a game in a snowstorm, and they certainly were capable of doing that.

Speaker 1 You know, and these games are of massive importance. They say, can you run the ball? Can you stop the run?

Speaker 1 Philadelphia Eagles can do both very, very well Eagles are favored by six at home in front of the Johns in front of the mayor who I assume will have learned how to spell the name of the team also

Speaker 1 our country's burnt I feel like you should have to know how to spell yeah

Speaker 1 it's big moments our mascot probably nervous yeah because mayors don't speak at things a lot so I understand what you're talking about

Speaker 1 I completely understand what you're saying Is that bad momentum? That's bad momentum.

Speaker 1 Is that? You know, I watched that and I'm like, oh, I can see how you make that mistake. I can see how here it is

Speaker 1 Let me hear you all say E

Speaker 1 L

Speaker 1 L

Speaker 1 L E S L

Speaker 1 can understand how you make the mistake obviously anytime you're spelling things out it's gonna be tough Pete Dammo one of the smartest guys I have ever been around I tried to spell out ought to go you know because the O T T T O G O Indian

Speaker 1 and I think he said O T T T O T O or something like that. Like it's hard.
It's not always easy.

Speaker 1 Now granted it is a chant that has has been around in Philadelphia, I think, for maybe 100 years since the Liberty Bell was cracked back there whenever they were the original capital of the United States of America.

Speaker 1 But I watched it and I said, hold the phone now. Because in Washington, it feels like everybody's kind of moving in the same direction.
Left hand up. Philadelphia now.

Speaker 1 We got the mayor not even knowing how to spell the team's name. I'm not, listen, is that bad mojo? I don't know.
Does that even exist in Philadelphia?

Speaker 1 Because all the bad mojo that was thrown at this Eagles team, even though they were winning, the championship Sunday should be remarkable.

Speaker 1 Both games are going to be electrifying, and we need to watch it and appreciate it because we don't have a lot left. Talks to Tables here at Boss Connor at Tysh Bay Con man.

Speaker 1 For a long time, your Patriots were a part of this conversation hosting this weekend. It was kind of the New England Patriots weekend.
Now it's Kansas City Chiefs weekend, brother.

Speaker 1 Everybody thinks the refs are on their side. And did you know the Super Bowl logo? It's got a lot of red in it.
Yep, red and green. Yeah, it's got a lot of red in it.

Speaker 1 And there is some green in there. But it's a majority, a little red, gold, and green in there.

Speaker 1 And I guess if you go back in time, the Super Bowl logo for a long time has kind of given away the script of what's going to happen to teams are normally in there so they're saying chiefs eagles but a lot of people are saying the NFL the refs everybody is behind the chiefs mostly because Taylor Swiss over there yeah it's hard to argue because we we watch the games and we see the calls but you know good teams things tend to go their way and the chiefs are a great great team this will be the first time in my life that I am genuinely rooting for the Buffalo Bills so I feel like I can say that I think their city deserves I think Josh

Speaker 1 is awesome yes this is a genuine root for you know the chiefs are great And, of course, the Bills, their fan base is insufferable. But most of these fan bases are minus the HCTR.

Speaker 1 But again, the Chiefs are on their way to doing something great. I think the reason I want the Bills to win is because the Patriots can never win three in a row.

Speaker 1 So the argument, you know, Chiefs dynasty better than the Patriots dynasty, I think that's a good thing. That'll get held over all of New England's head.

Speaker 1 I think that starts to gain some real legs, you know, once they win, if they win. three in a row.
Because everyone says, well, they only have three Super Bowls.

Speaker 1 You know, the Patriots, they had six in 20 years. The Chiefs only have three.
You win three in a row.

Speaker 1 That is the greatest three-year, four-year, five-year span because it'll be four and five years in the history of football, without a doubt.

Speaker 1 But the Bills, I think, I think they have the juice to get it done. And although the refs are seemingly on the Chiefs' side,

Speaker 1 even though you can't say that, and it's not real, I don't think that is a very real thing. You don't know.
Maybe these refs have daughters that are feeling 22. There's a chance, and T.

Speaker 1 Swift definitely helps, you know, for the NFL to grow the game. You know, they love their their ratings.
And, of course, T.

Speaker 1 Swift is definitely a huge pull, as is Caitlin Clark, as we've learned with the new Women's Basketball League. But again, the Buffalo Bills, they have what it takes.

Speaker 1 But I want to just count out the Eagles. It's a new brand.
Of course, it is. It's a new brand.
No doubt about it. I wouldn't count out the Eagles.

Speaker 1 And I wouldn't count out the Jaden Daniel commies, even though it's a new era in the States. I think commies are going down.
I would say that with the Philadelphia. You know, life always

Speaker 1 imitates our, or, you know, sports always imitates society. Yeah, exactly.
You know, that is kind of how it goes. That's why I'm hoping the commies go down.
But again, the Eagles, I would say,

Speaker 1 they have what it takes. And people don't like Jalen Hurts, one of them sitting on the stage.
But people don't like Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 1 And I do think with Saquon, with the way that team is built, that there's an easy path to see the Eagles go all the way. And that was the big convo with the Commons versus the Lions.

Speaker 1 Like, hey, the Commanders have the third worst rush defense in the NFL. So when you think about that, you think about how the Eagles are built.

Speaker 1 It would be something where the Eagles could go all the way. This would be their kind of second Super Bowl in the last few years as well.

Speaker 1 Again, Nick Siriani, maybe not a huge, big, dumb dip shit if he's going to another Super Bowl, but I can't wait. It stinks that it's here.
It stinks that these are. No, no, it's good, remember?

Speaker 1 It's good. It's good because of the fact that we're getting answers.
You know, we play all these games to get to championship weekend, but you miss all those games that full slate on Sunday.

Speaker 1 You know, a stacked one o'clock, a stacked four o'clock, a great Sunday night that you wait all day for. Yeah, you're talking about seven hours of red zone football.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no more commercial free, but still.

Speaker 1 That was a big change this year. Yeah, massive.

Speaker 1 But that doesn't exist anyway, so there's no even reason to talk about it right now. Yeah, no, and it's because all we got is two games.
Plus, it's nice. Scott Hanson can go piss.

Speaker 1 Now he can drink water. I'm still thinking chance E.D.
There's a little. Depends.
He wears a catheter. Yeah.
There's a chance. I mean, I don't know.
He's a machine, obviously, a weapon.

Speaker 1 Very good at his job. I don't know if his contract's up or whatnot, if it is or ever is near.
He's in a great position to leverage. I think he should feel that way.

Speaker 1 Good luck to him in his negotiations. But yeah, two games, you know, one day.
Yeah. It's not a lot of ball left.
Yeah. But these games are going to be electrifying.

Speaker 1 Debutch, I'll talk to you about the Chief's story here.

Speaker 1 You know, because there's a guy on the stage and

Speaker 1 Connor alluded to him earlier about Jalen Hurts, who, you know, his entire gimmick is offensive line, offensive line, offensive line, offensive line. Yeah, no gimmick.
It's real. Okay.

Speaker 1 Well, until last week. Yeah, until last week when you had the Eagles as the number one offensive line left in the playoffs, and then you had them ranked as the sixth best team out of eight.

Speaker 1 It's like, well, I thought your entire thing was we go as the O-line goes. And then you got the number one O-line and you drop them down to six.
It kind of ruined your gimmick.

Speaker 1 Just, just, can you put that list up, please, real quick? This is what happened.

Speaker 1 You had them as the number one ranked offensive line that was left, and then you put them at sixth as the team rankings in that entire thing and then the offensive line said hey kyush we can win games come on we can win we can win games yeah but

Speaker 1 a lack of offensive line can lose you games there's one team that you were very worried about I think right offensive line wise it's the Kansas City Chiefs like very worried very worried I watched the film literally two times through to try and find one good clip that I could put on this show

Speaker 1 For the entire game? For the entire game. And then I had to watch it again.
I was like, there's no way.

Speaker 1 I just went through a whole game and didn't see one good clip so how they beat the texans how is this team the number one seed in the afc how is this team the kansas city chiefs so that's that's where this thing called an x factor comes in sometimes there's there's there's one guy that kind of comes along there's one guy that comes along what is that you know my your guys lebron my guy's jordan right this guy's i've never casted an official ballot just like that you know

Speaker 1 i've never brought big lebron guy big jordan guy like big jordan guy big lebron guy we get the phone

Speaker 1 i am not trying to get on the right side of this brother i'm not passing about they're playing two different sports i'm not getting into this argument lebron

Speaker 1 i watched that last dance thing i saw people dribbling like this that's all i'm saying okay so hey lebron couldn't have played back then i think he could have now i think jordan could have very much played in this era as well two different sports i don't think we should be comparing anything but now we come back to this sport that number 15 is that guy he's that guy he literally runs around he makes some people miss and he makes a play and then he's got a hall of fame tight end that also does his little run around move back this way, and they're always on the same page.

Speaker 1 Oh, by the way, on the other side, they got a Hall of Fame defensive tackle, a Hall of Fame defensive coordinator, and maybe the smartest offensive coach in all of them.

Speaker 1 And potentially Hall of Fame kicker over there in Butker on the run that he's on. Hall of Fame special teams coach in Tob in this entire thing.

Speaker 1 They got a lot of greatness over there, but that's why I don't understand why they let the offensive line get this way. What was it? It was injuries, right? Left tackle, Tooney has to move out there.

Speaker 1 That was the biggest thing. The Interior 3, whenever Tooney's in there, is as good as any Interior 3 in all of football, right?

Speaker 1 Their tackles was an an it was an issue from the beginning of the season, and we knew that. We knew that going into it.
They thought they could play some guys into it.

Speaker 1 They have not been able to do that. They bring in DJ Humphreys.
His knee wasn't quite ready, so they rode with Tooney out to left tackle. They said, hey, listen, we like the continuity with this guy.

Speaker 1 He's a Hall of Fame guard, can get it done, and that's what they're going with. Okay, so joining us now is a man who might have an opinion on all of this.
He has passed for over 40,000 yards in the

Speaker 1 nine-time Pro Bowler, Super Bowl champion.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, a first ballot Hall of Famer, whenever it's all said and done, five years, obviously after it's all said and done in last year's quarterback for the pittsburgh steelers ladies and gentlemen russell wilson

Speaker 1 what's up

Speaker 1 hey what's up how you guys doing dude great that i think it's the first time you've ever been on our show so we just want to say thank you man thank you man

Speaker 1 we appreciate you man having me guys how you guys been hey we're great obviously we're doing our you know and uh saying dumb things into a microphone on a regular basis and what we were just talking about there i'd actually like to get your take on this entire thing aq shipley comes on our show every single week throughout the season, and you know, he kind of like judges offensive lines.

Speaker 1 He was a 12-year NFL offensive lineman, won a Super Bowl, you get it. Short arms, was drafted low, round belly, but he was able to get the job done.
Ain't that right? Never lost in CEO.

Speaker 1 Okay, yes, exactly. Thank you.
Thank you. Got the job done.
Super Bowl champion. Yeah, all those things, much different than me.
But he judges the offensive lines every single week.

Speaker 1 He thinks the Chiefs, obviously, at this stage of the game, have, because of injuries and everything, the offensive lines could be a question.

Speaker 1 For you, in your game, offensive line, most important part of this entire thing? Or how do you kind of judge it as a quarterback who's obviously played a lot of incredible football in the NFL?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I think, you know, in any game, you know, in football in particular, offensive line, defensive line, they set the tone for the games.

Speaker 3 You know, you guys were talking about the Chiefs a little bit. Obviously, I got some playmakers on the defensive line that caused havoc.

Speaker 3 And, you know, Patrick, you know, his ability to escape and make plays is really what makes him really special. You know, obviously his unique ability to do that for sure.

Speaker 1 Okay, so Russ cooking is a similar conversation. Whenever that was being talked about, let Russ cook, let Russ cook.
Russ needs to cook.

Speaker 1 I don't think I ever heard you or anybody from around you talk about it. What did that mean to you? And did you view that as a compliment? And are we still in the kitchen? Are we still in the kitchen?

Speaker 3 Yeah, we're still cooking, but I think the biggest thing is, you know, man, it's just, you got playmakers around, you always makes it fun. You know, I think even think about this year.

Speaker 3 you know, when we were on a hot streak and just some of the guys just making plays. Obviously, George Pickens is such a freak out there.
Pat Freibuth, I thought, had a great year.

Speaker 3 Now, you know, I think the biggest star to this season even was just Calvin Austin. I think his emergence and his work ethic, you know, those guys allow you to, I guess, cook in a way.

Speaker 3 And obviously the guys up front, you know, they do a great job of just battling every play.

Speaker 1 um you know and just giving us a chance to make plays we enjoyed the run with the pittsburgh steelers obviously it came to an end earlier than you would have wanted and all the people that are fans of the pittsburgh steelers as well but let's talk about these last couple years because obviously I think we all viewed you as a Seattle Seahawk for the rest of your life because of everything that happened there, the wins, the success, the eras.

Speaker 1 There was different eras. But we also thought Tom Brady was going to be a New England Patriot forever.
We thought Peyton Manning was going to be an Indianapolis Colt forever.

Speaker 1 We thought Stafford was going to be a Detroit Lion forever. So this, you know, successful, very good quarterback, late in career, going and finding a new home has become the modern norm.

Speaker 1 For you, whenever you leave Seattle, go to Denver. That goes how it goes.
Then you go to Pittsburgh. How has the mindset been going into new places?

Speaker 1 Do you feel as if you have to re like kind of earn everybody's trust in the entire building? Or how have you kind of framed it as you have had to have new homes here?

Speaker 3 Yeah, you know, that's a great question.

Speaker 3 But I think the biggest thing is, is that, first of all, I think every year you got to earn the respect of the guys around you and the love and the passion that you bring to the table.

Speaker 3 I think all of that really matters in terms of leadership and playing the game that we love.

Speaker 3 And, you know, it doesn't matter where we play it, you know, whether it's in the parking lot or if it's, you know, no matter where it is, you know,

Speaker 3 you earn that respect by how you practice and how you prepare and how you come into the weight room and your mentality to that and just all those different things along the way.

Speaker 3 And, you know, going into Pittsburgh was a special place for me.

Speaker 3 I love it, you know, and you know, hopefully I get to play there a lot longer, but just it's a special place because of the guys in the locker room and the traditions and the people and the winning and all of that.

Speaker 3 Plus, you got

Speaker 3 Mike Tomlin, who's arguably the best coach of all time, one of the top ones. And just because of who he is and how he motivates us.

Speaker 3 And, you know, even through the storm, you know, I think that we battled. And a lot of that was because of Coach Tomlin and who he is and how he makes us prepare.

Speaker 3 And so, you know, I had the gift of just being in Latrobe this offseason and just being around guys like Cam Hayward, I've always looked up to, a guy who's man of the year and a guy who's an all-pro, guys like TJ Watt.

Speaker 3 And yeah, big, big head.

Speaker 1 You talk like that was.

Speaker 1 Gigantic in here.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you do not want him to attack with you. Yes, for sure.

Speaker 3 But, you know, just guys like TJ Watt and just, you know, there's so much leadership in that locker room that guys that, you know, are unsung unsung heroes.

Speaker 3 And I think that's, that's what makes it special. And so we get to, you know, be around guys like that, it makes it special.

Speaker 3 And, and obviously, when you're seeing the towels fly around, all that, that that makes a difference too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I feel like you embraced the Jinser culture immediately from day one. I think you had a terrible towel in your opening announcement video that you were going to be there.

Speaker 1 And I think Pittsburghers appreciated that as a whole.

Speaker 1 I also, you talked to Bill Cower, I think, in a sit-down interview, and you said that Mike Tomlin was the first person that called you whenever there was a thought of you becoming a new team's quarterback.

Speaker 1 When you talked to him that day, obviously everybody in the NFL has respect for Tomlin.

Speaker 1 I don't think I've ever talked to a player that has played in the NFL during the Tomlin era that doesn't absolutely love him. But did he kind of lay out what it was going to look like?

Speaker 1 And what was your experience thinking about what your experience was going to be going in? And then inevitably, what was it actually with the Pittsburgh Steelers?

Speaker 3 Yeah, well, I got that first call from Mike. It was just exciting because I've always looked up to him.
He's a Virginia guy, you know, so it's got VA in his blood, two up, two down.

Speaker 3 I just, it was something that I've always watched being being an East Coast kid growing up, was watching the Pittsburgh Steelers and watching the greatness of the guys before us.

Speaker 3 And I think a lot of it was, you know, my passion for the game, but also, you know, I got to play against them. You know, I got to play against the Pittsburgh Steelers several times.

Speaker 3 We played them in, I think, 2015, and it was a back and forth battle. I had a lot of, you know, just watching Big Ben.

Speaker 3 And we ended up winning the game in Seattle, but it was a great game that we played there before. And so I got to meet him several times.
And it was just admiration there.

Speaker 3 So we talked about that a lot. But what we really talked about was just the love for the game and the process and the guys.
And I think I really related to that in a great way. So, man,

Speaker 3 to answer your question, I think the big part of it was it's superseded just my expectations of just who the locker room is and the guys and who he is. I mean, this guy gets there super early.

Speaker 3 I mean, he's there probably 4:30 in the morning, ready to go watching this film. We meet on, you know, on Wednesdays and Thursdays, early at 7 a.m.

Speaker 3 And just the detail that he goes through this film is really remarkable

Speaker 3 with me and the rest of the quarterbacks and everybody else and the leadership group and all that and just how he goes about his business is really you know remarkable um and listen i think that uh we didn't do what we needed to do this year you know obviously you know every you know there's 31 teams that are sitting at home at some point pissed off and uh we're definitely one of those and it was too early for us and so you know i think that the big part to it is is that you know you continue to search for greatness every day you continue to search uh for the process and the love of it and uh knowing that it's all going to be worth it at some point and i think that's the mentality you got to have going into it.

Speaker 1 Anytime you're sitting in a 7 a.m. meeting with somebody and they told you that they've been up for two and a half hours, it's like, well, you're a much more adult than me.

Speaker 1 I'm very proud of you. I'm more of a moon guy.
Okay. I'm kind of up a little bit later than you are, but damn, 4.30, you can get a lot of stuff done in those early hours.

Speaker 1 And I'm excited to hear that, you know, it was a chatter about love of ball because I think love of ball kind of takes care of everything else.

Speaker 1 The film study, the workout, the preparation, the buy-in, everything. I think it revolves around love of football.
And we know you're a baseball player as well.

Speaker 1 And everything that's kind of chit-chatted about you in your playing game is can move, obviously can shake, rattle.

Speaker 1 But that moonshot deep ball that you throw is almost like your calling card, I would say. You know, there's players that are known for things.

Speaker 1 You know, there's fighters that are known for different combos. There's wrestlers that have different finishers.
Feels like you're known for like the moonshot deep ball.

Speaker 1 I didn't play baseball. I don't know if there is a correlation of baseball with throwing a moon drop into somebody's lap, but this is like your thing.
Why do you think this has become your thing?

Speaker 1 And is this just the most comfortable throw that you have?

Speaker 3 Yeah, well, I think it's definitely, I've been fortunate. God's giving me a gift to be able to throw the ball down the field

Speaker 3 and put it where I need to for guys to make a play. I think there's a few things to it.
Number one, I think the guys you have making plays is always everything.

Speaker 3 I mean, you know, you get to, you know, put the ball up in the air, guys like Tyler Lockett, as you saw in that picture, guys like DK, but also, you know, guys like George Pickens, his ability to track the football.

Speaker 3 Calvin Austin, you saw that this year, his ability to make those plays.

Speaker 3 I mean, you're watching George right here, but I think what's interesting is that like, you know, when you got guys that are great center fielders, you know, guys like Ken Griffey Jr., you know, you know, they can track anything when you hit the ball deep down the field.

Speaker 3 And so I think for me, you know, in terms of the moon ball, it's kind of like watching Steph Curry shoot.

Speaker 3 You know, you want to give that high trajectory just to give the guy the best chance and give him a time to track it. And I think that I guess that angle of departure of the ball is always good.

Speaker 3 But, you know, I have fun with it, man.

Speaker 3 It's definitely a strength to the game, I think that, but it's always the guys around you making the plays that make it even that much more fun.

Speaker 1 Yeah, certainly some highlight reel catches are possible on deep balls, and you've had more than a few of those on the other end.

Speaker 1 But like they say the hoop's bigger up there, you know, it's bigger when it's coming from up there.

Speaker 1 Some of those throws that we just watch those highlights, obviously some, this one, it's like this thing is dropping down like a punt, basically, in between people.

Speaker 1 It's unguardable, deep, but it it feels like some of these are literally unguardable. Back shoulder, they say, unguardable.

Speaker 1 And if it's being dropped from the roof, I feel like that's potentially a tough one to get your hands on.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's tough to find it late for DBs. Like receivers, obviously, got a better job tracking.
A lot of DBs will look back at the quarterback as opposed to up.

Speaker 2 Like Reggie Wayne, OG, he was like, hey, look up, look up, look up, and you can track it better. But when it's coming in from that trajectory, dropping it, definitely the tough, super tough for DBs.

Speaker 1 Okay, so let's talk about it.

Speaker 3 You know a little something about Punton, too.

Speaker 3 It's kind of like, you know, you got those great punt returners, and you saw that video of Cortland catching that one, but like just, you know, you got to put it to a place where they can get it.

Speaker 3 And I think the big thing, too, is having that hang time just to make them make the play, you know?

Speaker 1 Hey, did you hear him talking about you maybe not being able to do that anymore? Cause you're old as shit now. You know that.
You've been around so long, right?

Speaker 1 You've played so long now, nine-time Pro Bowler, let alone the rest of it, nine-time Pro Bowler, let alone everything else you have going on, three different stops.

Speaker 1 But that was one of the conversations during the offseason, whenever you're either trying to find a place or it wasn't working out in Denver. They're like, Russ is old now.

Speaker 1 This ain't young Russ anymore. This is old Russ.
He's not able to do all this. I assume you heard those things.
Every professional athlete tries to hear and find those things.

Speaker 1 But did you hear the shit that was being said about you, both, we'll say professionally, football-wise, and personally, you as a human? Or you should keep on.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you hear it.

Speaker 3 You hear it around you. You feel it sometimes.
And listen, I think that

Speaker 3 what we do as athletes every time is trying to defy odds every day.

Speaker 3 I think that's the mentality you got to have i think you know going remember my first year i was i was banged up quite a bit i had my lap torn and everything else i was trying to battle through it but in the second year i felt great you know i i felt like you know going to those games we you know and just battling and just you know uh you know trying to light it up there in that moment and you know i felt like i played really well i felt with myself again in my second year and then i got you know opportunity to to play for the pittsburgh steelers and and be there and obviously like i said this year um you know was an exciting year in a lot of ways it was tough at the end obviously we didn't get it done but i got so much more in me, man.

Speaker 3 I'm excited.

Speaker 3 Obviously, my goal is to be with the Pittsburgh Sears a long time and, you know, hopefully finish my career there, God willing. But, you know, I'm just trusting God in the process.

Speaker 3 But also knowing that, you know,

Speaker 3 I've always gone against the odds and people, you know, doubting. And I think that's.
that's just part of my nature. I don't know if it's

Speaker 3 a little man syndrome or what, but I just, I love, I love ball, man. I love, I love competing every day and I just love getting after it.

Speaker 3 And anybody who knows me knows that, you know, I'm going to do everything I can to be my best for the longest time possible.

Speaker 1 Okay, on that answer, and it's the last one for me before the boys have questions for you. And we can't thank you enough for your time here on this glorious Wednesday.

Speaker 1 You talk about, what were you, fourth round? Was it third or fourth round? Oh, third round. Third rounder.
Okay, but they had just signed Matt Flynn, I think, to a massive deal over there in Seattle.

Speaker 1 And you talk about defying odds and everything like that.

Speaker 1 You weren't supposed to be the starter, but I think it was halfway through training camp maybe where Pete Carroll came out and was like, hey, we got a guy. We got a, we really like Russell Wilson.

Speaker 1 You and Pete kind of together seemingly echoed the same exact sentiments. His name is now being floated back into head coaching cycles.

Speaker 1 People are saying potentially Las Vegas Raiders for Pete Carroll. What was it like working with Pete? How would you describe your relationship with Pete?

Speaker 1 And have you caught up with him since you have left Seattle Seahawks?

Speaker 3 Yeah, you know, my rookie year, you know, was an amazing moment just because, you know, kind of going in there, I was thirturing quarterback at the time.

Speaker 3 And just, you know, I just kept my head down and just kept working. I think, you know, I think the first preseason game, we played against the Tennessee Titans.

Speaker 3 I remember throwing a touchdown, I think, Braylon Edwards, and I ran one. My guy Charlie Martin made an unbelievable block.
And I ran out for a 50-yard touchdown doe from the end zone.

Speaker 3 That was kind of my first, like, okay. You know, and then the second game, I think we played in Denver, you know, played well there.

Speaker 3 And then the third game, I got the start against the Chiefs and threw a few touchdowns there. And so it was just like, okay, here we go.
And it was a, you know, I had such great players around me.

Speaker 3 I had such great guys that were competitors, you know, and, you know, you think about just the players that we had.

Speaker 3 And so I thought Coach Carroll did a tremendous job of leading us and, you know, pushing us every day to be our best back then. And I think us players wanted it.

Speaker 3 You know, we wanted that level of work and attention and

Speaker 3 that kind of defying the odds in a way.

Speaker 3 So, yeah, you know, listen, I think Pete's an amazing football coach. I think he's an amazing individual.

Speaker 3 You know, I've been fortunate to play for two really special coaches in terms of men and how they think and how they process the game.

Speaker 3 Obviously, Coach Pete Carroll and obviously Coach Mike Tomlin are really unique individuals in how they lead and motivate. I think they're culture builders.
And so, you know,

Speaker 3 I think people, you know, do a great job wherever he goes. And I'm not sure exactly where he's looking or whatever, but if he gets the opportunity, I know he'll do a great job.

Speaker 3 And, you know, we've always stayed in touch. I went to see him and a lot of the other guys, you know, Bobby and the guys like Doug Baldwin and DK Metcalf and all that, Sherman, all those guys.

Speaker 3 When Coach Carroll got let go from Seattle, you know, we spent a lot of time there and we flew back in and just spent a lot of time with him. And just, we have, you know, memories.

Speaker 3 And I said, you know, it's funny because I said, you know, if Sherm and I could be in the same room, it's always a good thing, you know?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 3 You know, but, you know, we were just all competitors, man. We love playing ball.
We love winning. We love pushing.
And I think Pete always did a good job of that.

Speaker 1 I'm happy to hear that that you guys went back there, had a little reunion, you know, to celebrate the times that you all had up there in Seattle.

Speaker 1 It was a special era up there, man, especially with that stadium rocking. I don't want to break this news to you because you might not know this.
I guess that stadium is gettable now.

Speaker 1 Other teams fans are coming in there and getting it. I don't know.
I know. Yeah, I know.
I know that's not.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, because that place is special.

Speaker 3 I think that when it was named Century Link,

Speaker 3 it was a certain vibe to it. I don't know.

Speaker 3 I'm not sure

Speaker 3 if they need to go back to Century Link. Who knows? But it was a special place.
Obviously, just the guys that we had, the competitors

Speaker 3 was always unique in itself.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was fun to watch you guys legit It was fun to watch those teams and if Pete Carroll's back chewing his gum on the sideline I'm in

Speaker 1 the energy the the massive monarchs, you know with the pants just walking doing his thing

Speaker 1 Yeah, throwing warm-ups spinning it. I mean absolutely spinning it.
I hope that's the case. Hey the boys have some questions for you.
Is that okay Russ?

Speaker 3 Yeah, of course, of course. Yeah.
My bad.

Speaker 1 Talking about you being an old-ass dude now, Ty has a question for you. Yeah, Russ, as a Packers fan, you know,

Speaker 1 a lot of sleepless nights that you delivered to me when I was a little bit younger because it seemed like a lot of times, hey, you know, third and eight, third and nine, boom, Russ is going to pick up 16 with his legs.

Speaker 1 Now, obviously, you've gotten older. You mentioned it.

Speaker 1 And not to say that you can't do that stuff anymore, but you were such a dynamic athlete early in your career, picking up all those first downs with your legs.

Speaker 1 How have you kind of realized you've had to change as a quarterback as you've gotten older and maybe realizing like, okay, these guys actually have a step on me now.

Speaker 1 Whereas when I was a younger player in the league, I could very easily pick up those, you know, third and longs with my legs.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you know, I can still run. I can still, you know, get up and get up and go.

Speaker 3 But I think that as you continue to evolve, you know, I try to facilitate the ball to the right guys at the right time and guys getting it to them in the air as much as possible, letting them do their thing.

Speaker 3 And then when it's time, you know, using your legs, you know, and I think that's a big part of the game, you know, and obviously my ability to get outside and naked and

Speaker 3 play action and boom, that's a that's always been a huge part and still is and a part that i feel like i still do extremely well i think you know um you know you try not to spin out and do crazy stuff all the time but you know when you need it and you got to do it you know i think i go back to the cleveland browns game was fourth and six this year and it was it was a tremendous just the downpouring of snow great games great

Speaker 3 i just kind of spun out and went left and we had to have it and i ended up hitting pat for a big first down he made a great play and i just remember miles garrett just rocking me right there in that moment.

Speaker 3 But just, you know, those things, you know, I'm still capable of doing. I think that we got playmakers around you, though.

Speaker 3 You know, you try to get it to them so they can make those plays as much as possible.

Speaker 1 Point guard.

Speaker 3 I'm always working on my speed. You know, I think that's a big part of every offseason is to make sure that I can still get up to 19, 20 miles an hour and still feel good about it.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. I saw your ass day after season ended doing this one right here.
Let's go ahead and get that corner.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you look good doing that. You know, it's like.

Speaker 1 Not bad balance. Hey, I've been working.
I've been working on a little bit, a little bit of balance.

Speaker 1 Are we doing any more baseball?

Speaker 1 I remember we said more baseball.

Speaker 3 You know, I'm playing baseball with my son, you know, Future. He's, he's got a chance.
He's got a real, real chance. I was, my son, Future, and Wynn.

Speaker 3 Wynn's four years old, but he's, he, you know, I think he may be a shortstop for the Yankees one day.

Speaker 3 And I got Future over here who's actually playing for the major league 10-year-old to 12-year-old Yankees. So, you know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 I need to call Derek Jeter and get some tips from him playing shortstop. But I think he's got a chance.
He's got a good swing.

Speaker 3 He's got a home run power swing.

Speaker 1 He's got some speed to him got a good arms okay that's the baseball i'm playing right now you know it's it's uh it's it's fun though yeah you know through you know visualize through the entire thing because ty who's a yankees fan just noted yeah russ the yanks don't have a second baseman right now going into this year so listen i understand you still want to play four free agent though but hey maybe something to think about you know

Speaker 1 i turn a mean double play i'm just saying i still can't they need that they had the most arrogant second base in the majors last year hey listen can we talk about this finally because every time you do this training camp thing every time or whatever it's called what do you guys call your spring training there it is spring training i don't know baseball same thing i apologize russ i don't know baseball well enough uh i do have respect for the fact though that the yankees are the yankees and they're the ones that are having you at spring training it's not like every human is allowed to just come do you a good player you like good baseball player and can you hit a curveball like isn't that the big difference kim tebow right yeah the ability to hit the curveball is always everything you know you the thing is it takes so many reps you know i think baseball is one of those it's kind of like golf a a little bit.

Speaker 3 I don't know, Pat, if you can play golf at all,

Speaker 3 but you know, if you, yeah, it's one of those things that your ability to hit, you know, something that's coming at 97, 98 miles an hour, and then also the ability to, you know, at any point, they break it off.

Speaker 3 I think that ability to do that. So, you know, I could hit for sure, but you know, I needed to spend more time on baseball.
I'm glad I decided to do football.

Speaker 3 God just kind of said, hey, let's come over here and just do this. But it's been, it's been fun.
I love baseball, man. It's, it's, it's, it's just being able to, you know, play.

Speaker 3 And just, it's you know i think it's you know god created baseball for everybody to enjoy and you know my some of my favorite times are just you know um being on being on the baseball field in my in my young years were you a sunflower seeds guy

Speaker 3 i was a sunflower you know i i'm a sunflower seeds guy but i i chew all the sunflowers i don't if you know everybody that breaks one at a time i'm i'm kind of one of those guys just like you know it's almost like if i had chew in that's that's me i don't you know chew you know i'm sure i'm sure you and the boys do but no no no no, I am not a tobacco guy.

Speaker 1 Actually, no, tobacco, nicotine, the only thing that really spent

Speaker 1 all the other things I'm okay with. The, uh, my body doesn't work.
All the other things. All the other, yeah, there's, yeah, we all know there's a list of a plethora of

Speaker 1 them. Uh, the, you know, the forest is where I like to remain mostly.
You know, that's where I'm at, but all the other ones, you know, had nicotine and tobacco just kind of,

Speaker 1 it sent me into the, into the whirly birds way too much. I'm not doing this.
You know, I had to do like a leg on the ground

Speaker 1 on the bed from spinning.

Speaker 3 We don't want you punting. We don't want you punting with a little swirly in your head.

Speaker 1 But I did booze pretty good whenever I was punting. I don't do, I don't do that as much.
You never, you, you're not a real, you'll have a beautiful voice.

Speaker 3 I try to be, you know, clean as possible for me. It makes sense.

Speaker 3 I'm not in the forest like you as much.

Speaker 1 Hey, anytime you want to hit a different altitude, you let me know. I'm assuming there's a lot of people that have that offer on the table for you.
Would love. Missed out.

Speaker 1 Would love to smoke with Russell Warren. Seattle, Invert.
Oh, my God. Marshall.
Those are great, great, great stakes for the entire thing.

Speaker 1 You'd have to take a trip back, obviously, just like when Pete Carroll. Yeah.
You know, he had out to the... Debut has a question for you, Russ.

Speaker 2 That's probably the reason you hit the ground running. As a rookie, you came in, set a passer-rating record, through for 26 touchdowns.
I think that was a record as well. Went to the divisional round.

Speaker 2 What's your thoughts on what Jayton Daniels was able to do out there this season and now during his playoff run? And I know you spent some time with Dan Quinn in Seattle.

Speaker 2 Thoughts on him as a head coach leading that organization to their next chapters?

Speaker 3 That's a a great question.

Speaker 3 First of all, we got to play Jaden Daniels this year and the commanders and guys like Bobby, you know, I got to go against, man, just a guy who I truly admire and just going against him and calling plays against him was fun this year.

Speaker 3 And it was a battle. It was a great game.
It went down to the wire and it was back and forth, back and forth.

Speaker 3 And, you know, Jaden was a special player that day. He was also special throughout the whole season.
I think.

Speaker 3 um you know he's got a great demeanor to him you know he's got great poise i think that when anytime you're looking at a quarterback you know through the highs highs and lows of the season, do they remain the same?

Speaker 3 You know, do they remain the same? Do they stay confident in the midst of it all?

Speaker 3 What are their practice habits? You know, can they make plays in certain moments?

Speaker 3 The game's on the line. Do you believe that they're going to make the play, no matter what the circumstances are?

Speaker 3 Do you believe that, hey, when they're down and you know, at the half or whatever, do you believe that they can bring you back?

Speaker 3 And I think that's those are the it factors and the things that you got to believe. And I think Jade does a great job of that.
You know, I got to be around him some last offseason and everything else.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 he's just got a cool demeanor to him. He's obviously confident.
And

Speaker 3 I had a lot of respect for him when we played him. And he's going to have a great career for sure.

Speaker 3 Going back to your Dan Quinn question, though, he's just, you know, he's one of those all-time great motivators. You know,

Speaker 3 him and interesting story, you know, Mike Tomlin and Dan Quinn were actually

Speaker 3 boys for a long time. You know, William Mary VMI.

Speaker 3 Coach Tomlin was telling me that during the season when we were about to play those guys. And I've always stayed close with Coach Quinn.
I think he's just a tremendous individual.

Speaker 3 He's a guy who gets there early as well. He's this guy who's dedicated to his players.
He's a tremendous teacher. I think all the great coaches are great teachers.

Speaker 1 There's some photos coming out of Quinn back from college and high school. Oh, man.
Yeah, mead. Yeah.
Staff. He might have had the tabacy.
Yeah, horseshoe. Yeah, he might have had a bad thing.

Speaker 1 Maybe, maybe, maybe. Yeah, that head, too.
I mean, he was, you know, backwards hat Dan Quinn has been awesome to watch. And they certainly, look at this guy.
That's Dan. That's Dan.
Nuke. Yeah.

Speaker 1 There has been a half a tin in that right side of that face before. I've seen it.
I know it for sure. Dog.
Dog. Absolutely.
I think he has some record in track and field there at Salisbury State.

Speaker 1 And then obviously his football photos are hilarious as well. And now he's flipped an entire franchise like that overnight with new ownership.
And they're obviously happy.

Speaker 1 Speaking of being happy, a man who's been a die-hard Steelers fan his entire life. Let's head to Hammer.
Don, Don. AP Tone.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Russell, first and foremost, thank you so much for everything you did for the city this year, especially the children's hospital.

Speaker 1 I know that means a lot to the injuries, so we really appreciate that.

Speaker 1 But you talked about wanting to finish your career with the Steelers. Has there been any talks with Omar or Coach Tommin about that yet?

Speaker 1 And if you do, how much do you think, you know, second year with Arthur, second year with all the weapons,

Speaker 1 how much do you think development like that can help next year?

Speaker 3 Yeah, man, that's a great question. First of all, man, the kids at the children's hospital, they have a great children's hospital there in Pittsburgh.
Obviously, the people there are unbelievable.

Speaker 3 And it's really about the nurses and doctors and

Speaker 3 what they do for everyone. And

Speaker 3 it's really special. Just I've been fortunate to meet so many kids over the years.
And that's kind of my Tuesday,

Speaker 3 just kind of, you know, just thanking God just for the opportunity to try to be an influence and impact.

Speaker 3 And those days are like some of my favorite days, that and Sundays, you know, just were the best. But, you know, I think, first of all, yes, we have been starting to talk a little bit, obviously.

Speaker 3 And, you know, we've had our, you know, you know, our meetings and everything else and kind of just getting into it. So I think that it's an exciting time.

Speaker 3 I think obviously to be a Pittsburgh Steeler and the opportunity of what we can do.

Speaker 3 But I think at the same time, you know, I think that, you know, Omar and Coach Tomlin, man, just, I really love those guys and who they are and the team that they put together and the team that we can put together.

Speaker 3 And so I think that's a big part of it. And I think, you know, I think, as you mentioned, you know, I think anytime you go into any offense, you know, I think.

Speaker 3 you know, always that first year, second year, third year, those years together always make a difference and grow. I think, you know, you think about some of the all-time great guys, you know,

Speaker 3 guys like Tom Brady and guys like, you know, obviously Peyton Manning, they've been in systems for a little while. I think that always helps too.

Speaker 3 And so, you know, I got a lot of respect for Arthur and who he is as a teacher, as a coach, you know, and a competitor as well. You know, spend a lot of time on Fridays together and all that.

Speaker 3 So, but yeah, I'm really excited about the opportunity of being in Pittsburgh, hopefully longer. And just, you know, like I said, always trusting God in the process.

Speaker 1 You like Arthur?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, I like Arthur. I think everybody trusts Arthur.

Speaker 3 Anytime you lose the game or two or

Speaker 3 whatever goes on, people always try to tear things down. I think Arthur's just

Speaker 3 a great coach. I think, obviously, he's

Speaker 3 been a head coach.

Speaker 3 You know, and

Speaker 3 we love trying to find ways to

Speaker 3 compete every day and just get better. And so, you know, he's a great coach.

Speaker 1 I didn't even think about last year. You didn't even have a chance to do training camp because you hit a sled too hard.
What do we not know about this story?

Speaker 1 Because when it came out, I'm I'm going to let you know, Tone and all Yensers were like,

Speaker 1 what are we doing? Oh, no. What we lose our quarterback because of a sled drill in this entire thing? What happened? You were full pads?

Speaker 1 Who was standing on this?

Speaker 3 We were just pushing this heavy slug as fast as we could and whatever and just doing this

Speaker 3 workout testing thing we were doing. And it was unfortunate.
But I think the best thing that during that time period,

Speaker 3 it was ironically good for me because going into La Trobe, I'm sure you guys have been out there before, but going out there was a special time because we had to sit at late at nights and just sit with the fellas and play Uno and have some good times chopping up with the guys.

Speaker 3 And then early in the mornings, I'd get in the pool and work out quite a bit and then lift and everything else and do whatever I could do.

Speaker 3 And just being with the guys in the training room and just guys like Gabe and Dino, and there's special people

Speaker 3 in that building and players as well.

Speaker 3 And just, you know, I think sometimes we go through as players, we're so competitive, we always want to be out there but there's so many things to learn even even when you're even when you're down and out for a bit and so i i was able to learn the guys a lot and i think probably my favorite part of the season was just you know just the whole offensive dinners you know taking the guys out every thursday and watching thursday night football and just laughing having a good time um and and just you know you know breaking bread together so those moments i think even when I was injured just being able to grasp you know uh the playbook and you grasp the time with the guys and then still still finding my work in the day, you know, even if I was hobbling around the first couple of days, it's like, okay, let's still work.

Speaker 3 We're never not doing something. And I think that's kind of always been my mentality of the process.

Speaker 1 Yeah, getting better every day. That's Russell Wilson, baby.

Speaker 1 I want to let you know that is part of your brand.

Speaker 1 Because remember, we heard the flight. You did the high knees during the flight over to England.
Remember, heard that.

Speaker 3 You know, listen, I think, I think every player in the national football and any NBA guy, they're always moving on the plane.

Speaker 3 I think they drew that out of proportion.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 No. I heard you were.

Speaker 3 Maybe not that much movement, but close to it. But

Speaker 3 I think that's part of being a pro is always

Speaker 3 being able to move and keep your body fluid, especially on a 10-hour flight. But it's all right.
I'll take the memes. I don't mind.

Speaker 1 He did get murdered. He got murdered for that.

Speaker 1 That one was a murder scene. Yeah, but it's all like for good reason.
Works too hard. Yeah, exactly.
Cares too much. And I think everybody just assumes it's fake.

Speaker 1 You know, I think same thing happened with Tim Tebow. Yeah.
Like we met Tim Tebow and I was in the era of Tim Tebow. I think we all kind of were.

Speaker 1 And it was like, there's no way this is who this guy is. There's no way this is how they're portraying him.
I don't think it's your fault.

Speaker 1 that the entire world portrays you in one particular way and media and everything pushes a lot of the shit that you do. Just like I didn't think it was Tim Tebow's fault that everybody was pushing it.

Speaker 1 But everybody's natural reaction is this can't be how this person is. Then we meet Tim Tebow and it was like, I'll be damned.

Speaker 1 This guy, this guy's really like that. Is that kind of, you think, how people?

Speaker 1 Because I feel like the image in which we have of you works too hard, cares too much, always there, always ready, preparing all the time.

Speaker 1 Like everything that is projected publicly about you, once again, not your fault. This is how they're talking about an NFL quarterback who's very good at his job, is like perfect human.

Speaker 1 Is it hard to kind of live up to the hype of like a guy who's like a perfect NFL quarterback?

Speaker 1 And has that weighed on you at all throughout the entire process of your celebrity and fame in this entire thing i think that you know every

Speaker 3 you know um

Speaker 3 you know whenever you're trying to be great at anything i think there's a process i think it goes through this old process where you're kind of starting i was a third round pick 75th pick overall i had to do everything i could possibly could to be great i had to do everything i could to to um be on my stuff you know at the time there wasn't that many African-American quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 There definitely wasn't many short quarterbacks in the league at the time.

Speaker 3 There was only a few of us at the time. And, you know,

Speaker 3 there felt like there was a responsibility responsibility for me to play the game and to process and do things at the highest level.

Speaker 3 And to also, you know, try to, you know, continue to create opportunities that others had created for me. You know, and I think that's a big thing to me.

Speaker 3 It matters to me, you know, and how we go about and how we become a professional and how you learn from others.

Speaker 3 I remember guys like Leon Washington that I got to learn from and how he processed and how he took care of his body and how he took care of his mind. And it was a

Speaker 3 365, 24-7 thing. And it was not, it was an obsession with it.
And I got to be around some greats that did that. And that mattered to me.
And it always has mattered to me.

Speaker 3 My dad, my brother, they showed me that.

Speaker 3 And that was important to me. But I think a big part of it, too, is that I think anytime you're,

Speaker 3 I'm a positive guy by nature. I think that's me.

Speaker 3 I try to be uplifting. I try to, you know,

Speaker 3 speak life into every situation. You know, I always say that, you know, it says in the Bible that the power of life and death is in the tongue.

Speaker 3 So what you say matters, how you impact others, how you encourage. When I walk into a room, I want to speak life into every situation.

Speaker 3 When I'm on the field and we're down, you know, in 21-0 and a half, can we come back? Let's go. Here's how we do it.
And just, that's who I am.

Speaker 3 And I'm not going to change for anybody because that's who God created me to be. But I think a big part of it, too, is also understanding that,

Speaker 3 you know,

Speaker 3 I think just being consistent in who you are, no matter how you are, no matter what you go about it, I think that's an important thing that people can trust and believe in. And I think so for me,

Speaker 3 you know, when my dad was on his deathbed, you know, you know, I think a lot of it for me was understanding that, you know, when he passed away, I remember the next morning just kind of hearing a, you know, the sun still comes up in the morning.

Speaker 3 And that was, that kind of changed my perspective of life in a big way because I knew that, you know, no matter what we go through in life, and we all go through challenges, we all go through, you know, circumstances and everything.

Speaker 3 We have the obligation, opportunity,

Speaker 3 especially when you got, you know, the football in your hand, you're one of 32 guys in the world. Why would I be any other way? You know, why would I be negative? Why would I bring others down?

Speaker 3 I just want to lift other people up. And I think that's something that I really take pride in.
And it matters to me to do that. And I think God's given me a gift to play the game of football.

Speaker 3 And he's given me big hands and an ability to throw a moon ball, you know, and try to punt it, throw it high as

Speaker 3 high and possible as you punt in the air.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 3 it matters to me. And I think that's.
That's just the obligation that I have to the game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think you should take pride in that, brother. Hey, that was beautiful.

Speaker 1 That was absolutely beautiful. We need more you's in the world, not less of you.
And I think all anybody wants anybody to be, especially who's in a public position, is be who you say you are.

Speaker 1 You know, we just heard Terry McLaurin say that to his teammates before they went and upset the Lions. Be who you say you are.
I think you have done that.

Speaker 1 And I think some people just find it hard to believe because there's not a lot of you's out there, brother.

Speaker 1 And on that point, I think I heard that on Monday, you and Sierra were literally in L.A., I think, giving diapers to babies and stuff like that after the fires.

Speaker 1 It's like you talk about 24-7, 365 being a professional. It feels like you and your family, 24-7, 365, try to like make the most of everything and try to do everything.

Speaker 1 Thank you for doing this legitimately. And what was the group you were working with on Monday?

Speaker 3 Yeah, you know, it's been really cool. You know, Sierra's on the board of baby to baby and we wanted to make a difference in L.A.
Obviously, everything, it's been so sad, man.

Speaker 3 We've seen so many people lose their homes. You know, you, you know, when you think about it, you know, know, you, you come home and it's where you bring your baby home the first time.

Speaker 3 It's where, you know, life happens, this and that. And, you know, all the memories that people share and cherish, a lot of those are lost.
And, you know, it's hard to ever get that back.

Speaker 3 And so, you know, for me, it was, for me and C, it was just really just trying to make a difference. Our youngest daughter, Sienna.

Speaker 3 not our youngest daughter, but our young daughter, Sienna, she's seven and she was like, let's make a difference. And we really wanted to.

Speaker 3 And so we all kind of got together, me and Sierra and Sienna and Future.

Speaker 3 We all drove drove up to la and just um we partnered up with baby to baby and you know our foundation does a lot of stuff with them too we wanted to do more with them and and um and so it's been a cool process and what they're doing baby to baby is really really amazing uh they're doing some really really cool things and so what we were able to do was just go into a warehouse pack a bunch of stuff bunch of you know things for survival kits essentially in a way uh for people and uh just there were so many great individuals and so much great leadership with baby to baby and you know we're excited with our foundation to be able to do more stuff with them, hopefully, YNAU Foundation and stuff.

Speaker 3 But, and, and then, you know, I did this real cool thing with Fanatics. I'm excited about too.

Speaker 3 That, you know, the Fanatics team did, I got to meet this guy who his son plays tight end for a Cal and just a really, really good African-American dude who's tall.

Speaker 3 They probably, the dad's like six, seven. I don't know how big he is, but got to meet him and he surprised him with Fanatics and gave him a Steelers jersey.
He's a huge Steelers fan.

Speaker 3 He lost a lot of his memorabilia in the fires. And so I gave him a Steelers jersey.
And then

Speaker 3 his son, we're doing something pretty cool where he's going to get his own trading card. And we're going to try to raise money around that and stuff.
So that was really cool, too.

Speaker 1 But just I think that it's making a difference and everybody coming together.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Hey, shout out to Ruben, too.
Let's go. I like that out of here.
Let's focus on that.

Speaker 1 Let's focus on that.

Speaker 1 And Russ, thank you for making the world a better place, man. And thank you for waking up every day trying to be a positive influence on it because I know you get shit on a lot because of it.

Speaker 1 So the fact that you just, in the face of all that, continue to do that, it's a beautiful thing. And I asked Rich Paul this.
I asked Travis this. I'll ask you this.

Speaker 1 Are you helping write any songs or do anything? Are we?

Speaker 3 No, I'm staying away from smart.

Speaker 1 Smart, smart, smart. I see you dancing now.
I see you dancing every once in a while in there. I don't know if you're going to give any.

Speaker 3 Yeah, after we beat the commanders, I hit them with the, I think it was A, B.

Speaker 1 Put that shit on. Okay, Richard.
All right, we appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, all future Hall of Famer, Russell Wilson.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 That was cool of him. Yeah.
That was a long time. I don't think he was supposed to be on that team.
That was awesome. Good dude.
It was a good chat. That man was incredible.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I had to get to it somehow. I didn't know how we were going to get there, but at some point, we have to be up like, hey, nobody thinks you are, basically.

Speaker 1 And him giving that answer, I just choose, you know, and when my dad was on his deathbed, he said, hey, son's going to come up or whatever. It's like.

Speaker 1 I mean, I guess he has recovered. Yeah, this guy.
Good perspective. Yeah, legit.
And he said the power of the tongue, which I had heard that be said before.

Speaker 1 But it is interesting how you say things, what you say, when you choose to say things. So powerful in other people's lives and your life in the world that we're in right now.

Speaker 2 Absolutely, man. So

Speaker 2 everything he said, especially with that answer, you know, everybody should live that way.

Speaker 2 Because when you talk about even your own life, your own life, whatever situation you got going on, the more negatively you speak about it, it's more than likely it's going to start to go that way.

Speaker 2 Wake up, hey, it's going to be a good thing. Lucky to be here.
Say something nice to somebody. It might change your life.

Speaker 1 Be a friend, tell a a friend something nice it might change your life it might change the direction of everything there was a documentary i think i saw on netflix about how like actually putting out positive vibes oh yeah scientifically in return you should be able to yeah i think that was it or whatever i couldn't make it all the way through it you know because i'm like all right because i do try to be as positive as possible but when there's like it's a scientific proof that it was in there i'm like all right i don't need to watch the next hour i heard what's going on

Speaker 1 i believe you it's in the bible i believe you i'm gonna move forward what an interesting time to be alive shout out to russell wilson tone real quick yeah we got 30 seconds.

Speaker 1 You want him back at the Steelers, or how's Pittsburgh feel? It feels like the tea leaves are leaning towards Justin, but no, I think the second year under Russ would be good.

Speaker 1 Like we talked about it with Arthur and all those weapons. No, I wouldn't mind Russ back.
And I think, you know, he was saying, you know, I didn't even get training camp here.

Speaker 1 Give me two years with Arthur, three years here. We can really get moving.
Sounds like he loved his time. I love that he stopped by.

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Speaker 1 It's wonderful. We're lucky to talk about it every single day.
We just got done chatting with Russell Wilson for the first time.

Speaker 1 I saw him one time outside of Super Bowl Radio Row during COVID. So there was a lot of social distancing going on.

Speaker 1 He made it a point to break through the group of people that were kind of separating him from the group of people that were separating us while we were walking. You know, don't look at each other.

Speaker 1 Don't look at each other. Don't breathe the same air.
Nobody. Two masculine sunglasses, eyes down.
Wear a hat too. The fucking hair follicles can covet it.

Speaker 1 don't let the hair follicles covet it okay the whole thing that's what it was especially russell wilson i think at the time he was up for some award of probably walter payton whatever it was jenell yeah there it is yeah he was winning waltz payment so we're doing this entire thing he sees through he is not the tallest guy certainly tall in real life but in football you know vastly different looks through breaks through shakes hond shakes foxies hond i believe yep chit-chats with us quickly about our show and then i tell him like hey we're gonna put a request in at some point for you to come on the show Feel free to turn us down.

Speaker 1 Like it is completely, people turn us down all the time. We don't hate you if you turn it down.
It's all good. We understand how it all goes.
He goes, we'll love to get on catch up or whatever.

Speaker 1 And then it has been able to happen. And then now, boom, we have him on.
That was a great conversation. I'm thankful he stopped by.

Speaker 1 I think he talked about a lot of things that a lot of people have questions about. Didn't ask about Mr.

Speaker 1 Limited.

Speaker 1 But I think he addressed it. in one of his answers somewhere in there, at least at some point.
And we're appreciative of him. Talks to Timbles here at Boss Conner at Ty Schmidt.

Speaker 1 Could certainly let your jokes fly fly about Russell Wilson over time. I think you did a great job sitting in the pocket right there.
Without a doubt.

Speaker 1 And I certainly have let my jokes fly about Russell Wilson several times in the past. But it is, like, I mean, you hit the nail on the head with the Tim Tebow stuff.

Speaker 1 Like, when we first met him at Radio Row, like, that...

Speaker 1 It's just, it's very easy to be like, this guy's full of shit. There's no way any human being could be like this all the time.

Speaker 1 But there are a handful of people in the world that what you see is what you get. Like, legitimately, at all times, Tebow is that way.

Speaker 1 And it's pretty evident to see that Russell Wilson is probably that way.

Speaker 1 Because like you said, too, like it'd be very easy to just turn negative when you're doing all these good things for people and like being a very positive impact on our world.

Speaker 1 And you just immediately get shit for it. Like people just, this guy sucks.
He's full of shit. That's not real.
And he just continues to do it and continues to show up.

Speaker 1 And then all the football stuff is secondary.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, like you said, he's going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer probably, but anymore it's just like he just gets killed for how he plays whether it's good whether it's bad like very few people are indifferent about russell wilson and over the last several years it seems like he's become more of a punchline than he probably deserves to be well and then he he had a couple lines in there and told him he's okay not remembering the denver times sure no doubt then he there's a couple of things in there i think he was alluding

Speaker 1 I think he puts massive respect on people that show up early.

Speaker 1 Because multiple times when he was complimenting somebody, God gets in there early. This guy gets in there early.

Speaker 1 Because I think those super, I assume Russell Wilson falls in this category, those super high operating humans. Yeah.
You know, there's some of them billionaires that are nocturnal.

Speaker 1 Those are more the artists, creatives, or only that. The high operating business people normally

Speaker 1 early alarm clock. And they don't mind telling you about it, too.

Speaker 1 And their schedules are every day, this is what we do. Boom, boom, boom.
You can tell that Russell Wilson puts high respect on the people that have that.

Speaker 1 Because people that do that, I think there's other traits that are about them. Okay, these are very well organized, very thoughtful, very, oh, no stone unturned, very focused, very bodied.

Speaker 1 Like, that's how those people view it. And the only reason why I know that is because I'm not one of those people and I get to do business with those people.

Speaker 1 And whenever they send over a time for us to talk and I respond, ha ha.

Speaker 1 How about 1.30 a.m. instead?

Speaker 1 You know, whenever they're doing that number, I've tried to joust, you know, with these people a little bit, but they very much believe in the waking up an hour and a half, two hours earlier than every other person on earth.

Speaker 1 Now you have a 20-hour day or an 18-hour, 19-hour day where everybody else has this thing. Russell Wilson, once again, is who he says he is every single day.

Speaker 1 He did not talk about Denver at all in there, though. No, he didn't.
Understandably so. So

Speaker 1 Sean gets there late?

Speaker 1 Is Sean a night guy? He must be. Well, yeah.
Sound like it a few times. He must be.
And I think Nate Hackett, he'd get in there at 3.30, but then he was playing Minesweeper for four hours.

Speaker 1 He wasn't really. All right, nine here, NFL vet.
Darius Jay Butler is here. D-Bunch, how you doing, man? Obviously,

Speaker 1 Minesweeper is a great game.

Speaker 1 If you get lost in there,

Speaker 1 you can start, really start clicking. You know, whenever they have the number.

Speaker 1 That was a good game. It was.
Tough.

Speaker 1 Tough enough,

Speaker 1 but also easy enough if you wanted it to be. Yes.
Yeah, it was a good game. It felt like a genius, too, whenever you beat it.
Oh, yeah. Like, I'm so smart.
I can fucking lead a war.

Speaker 1 You know, if I had to do that entirety. So maybe Hackett did think that was a good part about getting better.
What did you learn there from Russell Wilson?

Speaker 2 He is who he says he is. I think so.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you know, and you can see why, you know, a lot of people obviously shit on him, you know, for the most recent years of his career, but he's had a long, very, very, very good career from the beginning.

Speaker 2 Like, he came out with the Andrew Luck and the RG3 class, but he went to the division rounds as a rookie. He, you know, threw a bunch of touchdowns.

Speaker 2 He had a great defense, had a good running game, but he fit right into that culture.

Speaker 2 And as you mentioned, usually when you bring a free agent over and you pay him, like, you're going to at least give that guy that year.

Speaker 2 And for him to win that job as a rookie and just kind of taking, you know, obviously he has a chip on his shoulder. He has a hell of a perspective on life.

Speaker 2 So I became a bigger fan of Russell Wilson after the day for sure.

Speaker 1 Here's some stats that we pulled before he came on. Career passing yards, over 40,000.
Touchdown passes, he has over 300 career passing touchdowns.

Speaker 1 He currently ranks fifth all-time in career passer rating.

Speaker 1 He has over 5,000 career rushing yards, over 20 career rushing touchdowns, nine playoff wins, including a Super Bowl, obviously, 25 postseason passing touchdowns touchdowns plus. And then obviously

Speaker 1 he won a Super Bowl and a 43-8 win over the Denver Broncos. It's like, he's had a pretty good career.
Yeah. Payant Manning's Denver Broncos, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and that was whenever the Legion of Boom knew all the signals. Yes.
Oh my God. Locked in.

Speaker 1 They knew exactly what was coming for every single play. What a genius performance by that Seattle Seahawks defense, which is a big part of the conversation about the Seahawks in total.

Speaker 1 Who goes where, who stays, who's getting treatment, who's not getting treatment.

Speaker 1 So him saying that whenever Pete Carroll gets let go and they all go back and they're hanging out, that's a beautiful thing to hear because you guys were a fun team to watch over here.

Speaker 1 They were, yeah. That was a fun team to watch all together.
12-year NFL vet Super Bowl champion A.Q. Shipley is here.
AQ, I know you wanted us to chit-chat about some of his offensive linemen.

Speaker 1 Feels like the time kind of got away from it, but he takes the boys out every Thursday night. I learned something from that as well.
That was cool to hear.

Speaker 1 I mean, we've heard so many stories of him not being one of the guys and the fact that he took the boys out to dinner. That's a

Speaker 1 huge ordeal. That's a staple deal.
That is a staple of quarterbacks and O-linemen getting together Thursday night, eating, watching the game. That's a pretty cool deal.

Speaker 1 Some of the O-linemen are boozing. Sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah, some of them are getting - you know, because we know the quarterbacks have got the credit card here, too. Yeah, exactly.
This isn't a credit card roulette situation. This is

Speaker 1 one guy's doing this whole thing. So, yeah,

Speaker 1 we'll have that double jack. Yeah.
That's right. Thank you so much.
You guys got 32 on? Gentlemen? You guys got Louie? You don't have Louie here. All right.
Normally. Normally I drink Louis the 13th.

Speaker 1 Normally. Yeah, but I guess I'll just do Jack here, I guess.
Yeah, is this gentleman? Is this gentleman Jack here? And then some of the boys have a good time. Then you start talking about families.

Speaker 1 Then you start talking about other things. That's where the camaraderie really grows.
That's where it comes from.

Speaker 1 Him not having a half a season, basically, or five, six games, whatever it was, because Justin Fields was playing so well and they were winning games.

Speaker 1 And then him not having training camp because of the sled push thing. It's like, I feel like he feels like they probably stumbled out of the gates, didn't get a full opportunity.
He's a free agent.

Speaker 1 We'll see how it goes. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who...

Speaker 1 Just won a national championship. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, a guy who has a tree on the Ohio State University campus, the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, Super Bowl champion, A.J. Hawk.

Speaker 1 Hawker, how you doing, buddy?

Speaker 4 I'm doing great. I appreciate it, but I did not win a national championship.
I did nothing for, you know, anything on the field. I just supported from the sidelines like all the great fans.
So

Speaker 4 the coaches and the boys.

Speaker 1 Coaches and the boys won, but you guys, you won. You won the national championship.
You're a buck. Oh, yeah, I say we.

Speaker 4 I say we for Ohio State, of course. Yeah, win or lose.
I say we.

Speaker 1 Okay, so you

Speaker 1 won a national championship. We did the championship.
We did it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we did it.

Speaker 1 Boom. What did you do?

Speaker 4 We won a national championship.

Speaker 1 Okay. Thank you, Jay.
Congrats, AJ.

Speaker 1 Everybody feeling a little bit lifted? Is everybody kind of just hovering around? Is everybody feeling alive over there in the Buckeye State?

Speaker 4 Yeah, it does seem like people are pretty excited. I think I believe the national championship trophy is on display for two or three hours at a local grocery store somewhere.

Speaker 4 Right now, I think it's happening. Yeah, people are excited.
I think they're going to eventually have some kind of celebration for them. Hopefully it gets above zero outside so people can enjoy it.

Speaker 4 But yeah, things are good here.

Speaker 1 Okay, so parade. Would there be a parade for these types of things? I don't think I know how college ball works.

Speaker 1 And Ohio feels like this is a paradable situation, especially because the setup in town is already kind of a parade route whenever the players walk to the field and everything like that.

Speaker 1 But it's so damn cold, that's probably holding things up.

Speaker 4 No, I mean, I think they're just getting things set up. I don't think there's a parade.
There may be a parade. I know at least after my freshman year, we won the national championship.

Speaker 4 We had a huge thing at the stadium where basically almost probably 85,000 people showed up in negative 20-degree weather for us to walk around the stage and see Grant, a great linebacker who was his backup.

Speaker 4 He's saying Carmen, Ohio. It was a special moment.
I would assume it's something like that at the stadium, but I honestly have no idea.

Speaker 1 Okay, and don't you guys do the skull sessions or whatever in the arena right near there?

Speaker 4 Yeah, St. John Arena, the old basketball arena.
It's an awesome place, but that doesn't seed enough people, man. I think that's only like five, six six thousand.

Speaker 1 Okay, so there is going to be some. Is that normal for national championships? I don't think I fully know what that is.
I think, right?

Speaker 4 What do other teams, what did Michigan do last year?

Speaker 1 Did they do anything? Try if they did buses through Ann Arbor. I don't remember.
I don't think parades are that kind of.

Speaker 1 That's what I just assumed was either you do it in the stadium or they do it in like the basketball arena. But people do it in the stadium? I don't think I

Speaker 4 can see dude in the basketball arena. The main, the Schoenstein Center, the main basketball arena seats like 18.
You could do it there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I'm saying, is it normal for college national champions to do a ceremony?

Speaker 4 I I think so.

Speaker 1 There is like a celebration? Yeah. Okay, sweet.
I think

Speaker 1 is that the... Michigan did a parade, I am getting from the back.
Yeah, they went through town.

Speaker 4 That'd be sweet.

Speaker 1 A lot of times. That is a sick shot with those buildings.
Look, you could tell you're on a university campus.

Speaker 1 Kind of old school. Yeah, like, I don't think that's super common.
Like a parade. Yeah, I don't think so.
Yeah, because Super Bowl, you just, a parade is happening. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Parade is happening, then there's a stage at the end. National Championship, I don't think I know what is standard.
I guess this would be it.

Speaker 1 Okay, so at high state, we assume we'll do something big, even though it's cold as shit, colder than it's been in a long time. Yeah.
Hey, they got snow down there in a bayou, like real storm. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Real snow down there.

Speaker 4 That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 You just wait for it to melt, I guess.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's no way they're prepared.

Speaker 1 I mean, this is obviously the home of the Super Bowl in two and a half weeks right now, and there's no way they have anywhere near the amount of salt or plows or anything that you would need for an actual snowstorm to come through there.

Speaker 1 Because why would anybody clear a budget that has all of that shit in it whenever it it very very rarely would ever happen and it's like we got snow there cold there this here cold here it's like what's going on is this just abnormal winter global warming

Speaker 1 you don't believe in that global warming

Speaker 1 do you have any other sentences or is that just no it's just what i've heard that's what i've been reading okay so you see that and then you just period you don't you don't do any more research no that's it.

Speaker 1 Al for. Okay, well, thank you for doing that.
Of course. Thank you, thank you.
Thank you. Thank you.
Of course. AJ did have a question about Monday.

Speaker 1 We didn't see you down at the national championship. What was that, Age? Yeah, I thought I saw some clips of you.

Speaker 4 Were you on a bus with Logan, Paul, Theo Vaughn, and those guys?

Speaker 1 No, I didn't make that bus. I didn't make that.
He was on Elon's telling them what to do on stage. Yeah, hey, here's a good handbook.
Oh, no. This is a good audible that we give.
Is that right?

Speaker 1 Is that what you were doing? Nope, I was at home.

Speaker 1 Kids were off school that day. I've watched that a few more times.
Keeps popping up. I mean, I don't know how that.

Speaker 4 I don't don't know if he was grabbing his heart. It doesn't feel like he was throwing his heart from what you told me.

Speaker 1 Just so, I mean, the form is pretty, I mean, pretty. Two in that form before.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Back to back.
That's alarming. That was scary.
He's a goober, they're saying.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, he's a goofy. He's been a billionaire.
He's been a billionaire like five times. You have to have some sort of awareness that that is something.
You'd think.

Speaker 1 What if he shows up with a mustache?

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's going to be like, yo, foam over.
He's going to be like, I didn't know that. I didn't know.
New haircut.

Speaker 1 I don't. That was wild.
I'm telling you, the more I see it, I'm like,

Speaker 1 man. All right.
Without sound, it's even worse. Obviously, where you're talking about thanking everybody and everything like that.
But

Speaker 1 I don't know. All right.
Let's talk about some breaking news in the NFL.

Speaker 1 I mean, that was just like. You scampered.

Speaker 1 You just can't be doing it. Some things you can't.
That feels like that thing everybody kind of knows. And then, boy, they're matching up with some other videos.

Speaker 1 They're like, but they're not saying my heart out to you in the videos. It's like, okay.
All right.

Speaker 1 agreed sure agreed they're not

Speaker 1 boy that looked pretty is everybody then yeah i don't

Speaker 1 yeah and then i see other photos of people i'm like how many people have been doing it it is a uh or all of them i don't know and then i start looking i see photos of me people are pointing photos up of me a point somewhere and it's like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa wait a minute

Speaker 1 i'm pointing

Speaker 1 over there it's like whoa whoa whoa the internet's gonna do what the internet's gonna do but boy when you do that i think you there's gonna be a reaction all right koc has signed a multi-year blockbuster extension with the Minnesota Vikings, a Jay Hawk.

Speaker 1 Now, what does Blockbuster mean? We assume that means it's a big number. The reports are that Ben Johnson sold for or signed for 13 sold.
That's what the Lions fans are saying. Yeah, he sold out here.

Speaker 1 Yeah, 13 million a year, allegedly, for the Chicago Bears. He's never been a head coach before.
Obviously, he's had multiple opportunities to become a head coach, and he was the bell of the ball.

Speaker 1 But if the reports are accurate about him getting 13 million a year and never winning a game as a head coach, and Kevin O'Connell was up for renegotiation.

Speaker 1 And Kevin O'Connell has done a very good job with the Minnesota Vikings and obviously won a lot of games and coached his ass off. We assumed he was going to be worth a lot of money.

Speaker 1 Sounds like that is the case. They will also be turning their attention now to Quasi, who's the general manager to give him an extension as well.

Speaker 1 So status quo will remain in Minnesota, which I think is a good thing because of how successful they've been over the last couple years.

Speaker 1 Obviously, a question mark still remains about the future of the quarterback position. I assume they'll be able to figure that out.

Speaker 1 And one of the reasons why they gave KOC this blockbuster deal is because

Speaker 1 he can make quarterbacks good. Is the expectation and a thought.
Good for the Vikings, I think, AJ. And the NFC North remains dominant, it appears, for at least the foreseeable future.

Speaker 4 Yeah, doesn't this feel like it had to be an absolute no-brainer? I would assume they paid him more than 13 mil guaranteed a year, but

Speaker 4 look around. Look at all the teams that are constantly going through coaches, trying to find a good coach.

Speaker 4 Like we talk about it a lot on this show, like, how difficult it really is to be a head coach in the NFL and to be successful.

Speaker 4 And with all the things KOC's had thrown at him as far as the quarterback situation, the different quarterbacks that he's had in there and have looked really good in his scheme, like, I think it would be crazy.

Speaker 4 KOC does seem like he is a mixture of a guy that will hold him accountable, but he's also that offensive guru genius type guy that can draw things up and get people open, but he also has control of the team.

Speaker 4 So, yeah, I think absolute no-brainer. You have to re-sign this guy.

Speaker 1 I heard Ty Schmidt poop his pants whenever this signing was announced. Ain't that right? No, no, you didn't.

Speaker 1 What? No, not. What about Ben Johnson and the Chicago Bears? There's been videos now coming out of that particular building with Ben Johnson now leading the charge.

Speaker 1 One of my favorites, and I haven't heard him from today's press conference because it's been live, is whenever he walked in and addressed the entire building as this has become like the new thing.

Speaker 1 Whenever a coach or GM is brought in, the entire company who's been working there for years and years and years in every department come out and give a round of applause.

Speaker 1 Well, Coach Ben Johnson addressed the Chicago Bears building for the first time yesterday.

Speaker 1 Welcome, welcome. We love you.
Everyone, get back to work.

Speaker 1 Listen, thank you so much. My family and I, we are beyond excited.
This is exactly where we wanted to be.

Speaker 1 It's exactly where we wanted to be.

Speaker 1 This is going to be a challenge. I am well aware of that.
This is going to be a challenge. I know what this division is about.
And this is exactly where we want to be.

Speaker 1 We're going to go after this thing, and it's going to take all of us in this room. It's going to take this locker room.
It's nothing more important than that locker room.

Speaker 1 And us serving that locker room and those players. Alright? They need to understand that.
They need to feel that from us every single day. And if we do that, the wins are gonna come.
Okay.

Speaker 1 The playoffs are gonna come. Okay.
All right. Can't wait to get to know you guys.
And thank you so much for the warm welcome. Thank you.

Speaker 1 Hell yeah.

Speaker 1 It's gonna be a massive challenge, all right? You guys know you've been here. This place kind of stinks.
All right. Thank you for the warm welcome.

Speaker 1 You've had to do a lot of these over the last 10 years. And I want to let you know, it's all about that locker room right there.
Okay.

Speaker 1 And when the wins come and the playoffs come, sales, a lot easier. Ticketing, a lot easier.
Sponsorship, a lot easier. Parking, a lot easier.
Social media, a lot easier.

Speaker 1 Hey, everybody's life gets a lot easier if we take care of that locker room right there. Okay, so that's all I'm saying.
And this is where we wanted to be. That's where we wanted you to be.

Speaker 1 Okay, it feels like it was a perfect start between the building and Ben Johnson's era.

Speaker 1 He had a press conference today, and you know, Lions fans were killing Ben Johnson for going to the Bears and seemingly potentially putting together a staff before the games were over for the Lions.

Speaker 1 And, you know, Lions fans got creative like Boston Connor did the other day where he was like, Ben Johnson's holding back plays so he can run with Caleb and not Jared.

Speaker 1 That's why he's losing the playoffs to the Commanders. We don't think that's true, but he said he loved beating the floor twice a year.
He said today.

Speaker 1 He said, I didn't mind beating the floor twice a year. That was a good time.
Trying to win Lions fans back while also taking a shot at the rival Green Bay Packers for the Chicago Bears tie.

Speaker 1 Yeah, see, I appreciate that because he comes in and he understands that that rivalry does mean something, but let's not, I mean, let's get two things straight here, okay?

Speaker 1 The Lions got their physicality and their toughness and their overall demeanor and attitude from Dan Campbell. What? They didn't get it from fucking Ben Johnson.
So

Speaker 1 he can say that, and I appreciate that. But you know what Ryan Pohl said when he first got introduced as the Bears new GM? He said, we're going to take the North.
We're never going to get back.

Speaker 1 And they've been hammered dog shit since he got there. So you can say all that kind of stuff.
That's great. Hell, they beat the Packers to close out the season.

Speaker 1 Now, granted, the Packers, you know, in the second half, played all their scrubs and all the guys who probably aren't going to be on the team next year because they didn't have anything to play for going in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Now, in hindsight, they should have probably played their starters so they didn't look so bad going in the playoffs. Maybe it would have helped against Philadelphia.
But

Speaker 1 you can say all this kind of stuff today, and Bears fans are, you know, just eating out of the palm of his hand. They love it.
And they should.

Speaker 1 They should because he understands how big of a deal it is. But

Speaker 1 if you want to, you know, win the Super Bowl when you're not in the playoffs in January, when you hire your coach and you're trying to figure out this thing for the 500th time in the last, you know, 30 years,

Speaker 1 fine by me. Congratulations.
Do it. Yeah, and enjoy it.
And they did. Enjoy it.

Speaker 2 And they did.

Speaker 1 But I don't want to hear a goddamn thing when they start 0-5 next year. What? And Bears fans are saying, it's ain't the fucking guy we hired.
No.

Speaker 1 I didn't want this guy. No.
I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 They said that's where we wanted you to be in the video. We heard it.
Let's go to a Chicago Bears fan here. Zito, Ben Johnson, his rollout, his debut as a Chicago Bears coach.

Speaker 1 Aside from the selfie video that they put on social, I think has been awesome. Do you agree up there? Yeah, this is like the first time Chicago's all been on the same page, too.

Speaker 7 Like, that never happens.

Speaker 4 So, like, everyone legit, like, rooting for him the whole time.

Speaker 7 And obviously, there was, like, Vrabel was obviously a part of that as well, but, and McCarthy, but Ben Johnson is a absolute mastermind, and I do believe that we will be beating the Packers two times this year.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.
Sounds like he's making himself believe. It sounds like he's trying to convince himself in the middle of that answer there.
And he was was looking right and he was looking straight.

Speaker 1 You know, I was watching Zito's eyes searching. Yeah.
He was searching for something there.

Speaker 4 Searching for confidence.

Speaker 1 He was searching for confidence in what he wanted. And that's what Ben Johnson's supposed to do.
That's how he should. And I think that's why Chicago feels the way they do.

Speaker 1 It's like, yeah, we got the guy. Yeah.
He's saying all the right things. I think, aside from that selfie on social media video, everything else, he's saying the right things, Connor.

Speaker 1 Yeah, saying the right things, but just the demeanor, I think you mentioned, like when Mike Vrable came in, we're not doing the wuss, clapping it up, you know, hey, let's make this guy feel good.

Speaker 1 Okay, because that guy's coming in feeling good. He knows what he's doing.
Ben Johnson sent everybody back to work.

Speaker 1 If we were to go back and look at who exactly got clapped for when they walked in the building, just a couple names come to mind. Rand Carthon, his ass got shit canned.

Speaker 1 I think we could go through a few more. I don't know if they're still with him.
And to be completely honest, I've never seen Ben Johnson without a hat on. Yeah, Ben's first son.

Speaker 1 And now that I have, boy, oh boy, I'm glad the Patriots got Mike Verde. What's your fucking thing? just saying,

Speaker 1 I'm just saying,

Speaker 1 he looked like a fool.

Speaker 1 I thought he sounded great. He also had that coaching stance with the hand.
Yeah. Okay.
He did one of these.

Speaker 1 Good leadership talk. I think he appreciated the banter there a couple different times.
He's waiting for the team meeting. I thought he addressed the crowd well.

Speaker 1 I think we got a chance to look inside one of his meetings there, AJ. I have faith that Ben Johnson will be able to figure it out because you said you hadn't seen him without a hat.

Speaker 1 I don't think I've heard him talk. Yeah.
That's my first time really hearing him talk there. I think he does have some leadership qualities, AJ.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he does. I mean, that's not an easy room to walk into and try to.

Speaker 4 You guys have socks.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah. Like, I give him credit.
His kids didn't interrupt him and didn't pull on his arm and tell him to pick a leak or something.

Speaker 4 Like, that's something that's tough to do if you're speaking with your kids right next to you. So I give him credit, him and his wife.
But, I mean, ultimately, you got to ask guys that played for him.

Speaker 4 Like, I know the guys that I have talked to that have been on the lines. Like, they...
Honestly, they have a lot of respect for this dude and they think he could be a great head coach.

Speaker 4 So that's all I can go off of when I have no personal interaction with the dude. But yeah,

Speaker 4 can you lead a group of dudes into, you know, give them all one singular direction that they can all chase? Like, can you be that guy? We'll see.

Speaker 1 And so he pointed at some of his players, allegedly in this press conference, Caleb and the boys, and said, get comfortable being uncomfortable. I don't know the delivery.
I don't know the tone.

Speaker 1 I don't know the phrase. But the tweet that I read said it was a good moment.
It was a good moment between new coach and locker room.

Speaker 1 Debut, early thoughts on the Ben Johnson regime up there in Chicago? I'm optimistic.

Speaker 2 You know, he chose this destination. There was obviously, you would assume he had his pick of the litter with the teams.
He chose this destination. He chose Caleb Williams.

Speaker 2 Now, Ryan Poles is still there. And the things about the turnaround and what's going on in Minnesota and what's going on in Detroit front office.

Speaker 2 You know, Brad Holmes has done a great job building in the draft and in free agency with Dan Campbell in the front office.

Speaker 2 And Questie, what he's doing in Minnesota, bringing in like guys like Cashman, Van Ginkle,

Speaker 2 Grenard, like those guys come in and instantly produce and help that team.

Speaker 2 So those are the things they're going to have to O-line running back because you have amazing weapons in detroit and we all know coaches can look great when it's great players running their system and now you have a young quarterback still trying to figure it out you have good talented players but you got to get those players to play and produce at a high high level so how he works with the front office and then obviously how he commands the team we know he's a good play caller so who's going to be defensive coordinator how does he build the rest of his staff out who yeah who all did he bring with him down there do we know does he have an offensive line coach no i don't think they've named anybody yet but i know hank fraley i think he wanted him but hank's interviewing with Seattle.

Speaker 1 He's the O-line coach in Detroit, but he's interviewing with Seattle and probably, I bet at the end of the day, is just using that as leverage to stay in Detroit.

Speaker 1 And then the other two that have been tied to him is Dennis Allen, his DC, and Rizzy. That would be great.
His special teams coordinate. Because he has history down in New Orleans.

Speaker 1 And Rizzy's name is still potentially up for the New Orleans Saints child because Alex Mars said, Coach, I want rhymes with Fizzy, dog. And that would be Rizzy.
See?

Speaker 1 Bars. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Nailed it. And see, even there, wherever I pointed it at AQ, I was a little bit.
Everybody's kind of on guard. Yeah.
Yeah. A little bit.
Jeffy, no, you're good with a point. Yeah, one finger.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 even two. Butch.

Speaker 1 Butch, keep going.

Speaker 1 How about three? Go four then, butch. No, no, look, I'm.
No, but I will say,

Speaker 1 Rich Rodriguez told me one time whenever, not me, it was a team meeting. He said, every time you point a finger at somebody else, there's three fucking pointing back at you.
Never forget it.

Speaker 1 So whenever you're blaming somebody else, there's actually, you're blaming yourself in the process. You might as well just do that at the beginning.

Speaker 1 So I remembered, like, when it's definitely somebody else's fault throughout the rest of my life you go four fingers at a easy your fault whoa whoa whoa keep that elbow

Speaker 1 that's first down elbow

Speaker 1 first down elbowing i'm first down be careful and if i go from my heart

Speaker 1 i think it is in the delivery as well just a little bit more casual you know just a little bit more okay because i think it was like

Speaker 1 just the force in which it was was

Speaker 4 force it was like he snapped it He snapped it too hard.

Speaker 1 Practice, rehearse. Like, this guy's got formed.
Like, you know, whenever you see somebody salute the flag and you'll see, like, yeah, you'll see, like, the actuals.

Speaker 1 Like, hey, those are the real, hey, real deal, real deal.

Speaker 1 Appreciating, I get everything.

Speaker 1 Got it, got it, I got it, got it, got it. But whenever you see the person, like, snap it in, it's like, oh, that's a, oh, yeah, that's a real deal right there.

Speaker 1 That's, that's what that one, and I think it's all because of the

Speaker 1 form. Yeah.
Snap that down. I think it's what we're all seeing on that video is like,

Speaker 1 like, the muscles have been.

Speaker 4 Well, you're thinking, like, that's probably not the first one.

Speaker 1 Bingo, yeah. Like, the muscles have been.
But he said, my heart.

Speaker 1 You know. He said, my heart goes out to you.
That's what I'm saying. I agree.
I know. But that's a weird way of throwing.
I know, but that's what I've been bouncing back.

Speaker 4 Is that what he's really saying? I didn't hear the audio.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Guardio is his heart goes out to people, but not to people past first row, because if you're throwing like that, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I don't know how far that's going. Yeah.
We talked yesterday. There's a lot of different ways to throw stuff.
Unless it was a Frisbee-shaped heart. Yeah, you're right.
Could have been Frisbee.

Speaker 1 That is, I guess, that is.

Speaker 2 No, Frisbee's.

Speaker 1 You throw that under Hannah. Yeah, you still.
Yeah, that way. You think he's got snap? I don't think so.
Come on. He's got snap in the

Speaker 1 bone. Everybody's different.

Speaker 2 Nick did twirl it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because you can't. You can bring it back here and throw it that way.
Yeah. But there's also four.
There's also

Speaker 1 C and Frisbee and Comp.

Speaker 1 I couldn't get that one. Yeah, Elon doesn't have that one.
I thought we were watching this morning. The fun.

Speaker 1 Stone skip and comp on ESPN Deocho. This is a Western Pennsylvania thing, I think.
I think. And we got video actually of DeGOT Kurt Steiner.
Now, this is a big-time championship

Speaker 1 skip of the stone. Now, obviously, the goal is to look cool and to skip shit out of a rock.
And the camera people have been maybe the worst in the history of any sport. Look at that.

Speaker 1 42 skips right there. My God.
Boom. 42 skips right there from Kurt Steiner.
Okay. Follow through.
He's from Erie, Pennsylvania, okay, which is obviously Western Pennsylvania.

Speaker 1 There was a couple competitors from Tittiute in Franklin Pennsylvania as well I believe this was hosted in Franklin Pennsylvania as a

Speaker 1 former rock skipper

Speaker 1 trick boy I feel like I wish I would have found out about this let's go to hammer down town town I think our street in general with the cricks you know because uh hilly town and where I was on the street it was the bottom of all the hills so there's creeks you know there's a lot of them so easy thing to do if you got shit to do is just we're skipping rocks.

Speaker 1 Now finding the rocks is a big deal. These guys are allowed to bring their own rocks to the skipping competition.
So they're finding these rocks, purane, these rocks,

Speaker 1 probably

Speaker 1 these rocks in this entire thing. Tone, I think we could have kept up with these guys whenever we were younger as we were watching it this morning on ESPN the Ocho.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, we're cut from the same cloth. We cut our teeth in the same region there skipping rocks.
So I don't think there's any reason to believe we couldn't.

Speaker 1 And, you know, we were river kids, and, you know, everyone knows the river rock is much better than a lake rock as far as skipping is concerned.

Speaker 1 And I was actually thinking this morning as I was watching, I was like, I probably throw the way that I do because of skipping rocks.

Speaker 1 And that's probably why the pop time was so proficient back in the day. Yeah.
So, yeah, I think we could easily have a lot of stuff. Yeah, because you got to take that thing here.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You got to take that thing here because you're trying to get as low as the water. And that first skip is a very important skip.
The camera person has never seen somebody skip a rock.

Speaker 1 And then they watched 50 people do it and they still had no idea. They thought that first skip, they were zooming in every, oh, the rock went straight down.
Watch you still see this.

Speaker 1 The first skip is just like to get that thing going a little bit.

Speaker 1 And they just, well, it was keep, you know, every time it got distracted. But I appreciate all the stone skippers out there.
Good work. Keep it going.

Speaker 1 Joining us now is a man who I think would be a terrible stone skipper. No doubt.
I don't think you can be six foot six and be a good stone skipper.

Speaker 1 I think it's going to be tough unless you got those arms that potentially orangutan down to your ankles. Randy Johnson.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like Brock Lesnar is probably the greatest

Speaker 1 because his hands actually go all the way down to his ankles. So that's just, he's really just sidearming that.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, future First Ballot Hall of Famer. Member Member of the bull ring of honor down there for the AFC South Champions, Houston Texans.
Ladies and gentlemen, JJ Walton. Yay!

Speaker 1 What is that?

Speaker 1 Oh, cool. We got an umbrella kit on right now.

Speaker 1 What is that? Who is it? What is that for?

Speaker 5 Scumpy. Yeah, we got a Burnley match coming up in about an hour and a half.

Speaker 5 1980 retro kit here. We played Plymouth Argyle at 2 p.m.
Central Time.

Speaker 1 You know, the whites normally look terrible in yellow. You look very good there.

Speaker 1 You look very good in that

Speaker 5 great chair. There seems to be a lot of conversation around that topic in that Thunderdome today there.
But I appreciate it. I look good in the yellow.

Speaker 1 I look good in the yellow. We're talking about the way to throw a heart.
Is that what you're talking about?

Speaker 5 We played Plymouth Argyle today. Fun fact.

Speaker 1 They're good.

Speaker 5 Home of the Mayflower. Home of the Mayflower.

Speaker 1 Oh, really?

Speaker 1 Wow. That's right.
I love that. Plymouth Argylls.

Speaker 1 They come out 3-5-1. They're ready to go.

Speaker 1 3-5-2. They're ready to to go out there.
Plymouth Rock. Yeah, because that's up there where they landed.
Yeah. Named after them.

Speaker 5 In old mass.

Speaker 1 Wow, in New England. Pilgrims.
Where America was invented, some would say. Away from Old England.
Yeah, that's right. Which is where this lad is an owner of.
Are you guys wearing those tarps?

Speaker 1 Are you bringing those back? Do you do merch stuff? Do you do other journeys to make the pops?

Speaker 5 I got a bunch of old retros in my closet. Also looking at some stuff in the future.
I personally love this old school crest, and I would like,

Speaker 5 I just love it. I would love some incorporation.
So

Speaker 5 anytime I get a chance to wear it, I enjoy it. What do you think? Do you like it?

Speaker 1 I can never wear that. Me personally.
The way I am built can never wear that. I think yellow is tough.

Speaker 5 You wear a lot of stuff though. You wear a lot of stuff.
You look good in black.

Speaker 1 You'll see me in dark colors because the way I am built, yellow would be a tough one for me. Yellow would be a tough one for me.

Speaker 1 But I played for the Colts and we wore white spanks on prime time on a regular basis. That wasn't great for me either.

Speaker 5 Punters really hate the all-white because Leichler hated the all-white.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Your belly button looks like you can. O-lineman for O-lineman.

Speaker 5 You weren't big. What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. But the white spanks certainly say

Speaker 1 every... I mean, we're wearing,

Speaker 1 we were OnlyFans and Out there, but you know, guys, there are loads.

Speaker 5 This is actually an interesting question. I'm very curious to hear the answer.
You, D. But,

Speaker 5 did you ever wear? any jersey besides the home and away of the Indianapolis Colts. Did they ever do an alternate?

Speaker 1 I think we did it one time. We moved the stripes from like here to here, and then we had a different helmet one time.
Color rush?

Speaker 1 I think we did white.

Speaker 1 I don't think color rush came in until like 17,

Speaker 2 right? We had a Thursday night color rush for sure at home.

Speaker 1 Against the Broncos, I think. All blue.

Speaker 5 What was her color rush?

Speaker 1 All blue. Was that the helmet? Was that the helmet? The different helmet?

Speaker 4 The Boys of Summer?

Speaker 1 Was that 17, though? And that's Indiana Knights. Stocks up.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 No, it wasn't the Indiana Knights.

Speaker 1 Disaster. Because she grew up.
Disaster. Whoa.
Leeson. It's a beautiful girl.
Your uniforms are playing for another team. Okay, so I don't want to hear you all.
Oh, yeah, well. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yours were sitting on the couch.

Speaker 1 All right. All right.

Speaker 1 But you have great.

Speaker 5 I do like your main uniforms. They're good.
They're iconic. You don't mess with an icon.
I think that's part of the reason why Indiana Knights didn't work that well.

Speaker 5 A, because they weren't designed that great, but B, because your normals are good.

Speaker 1 Well, and C, it was a one o'clock game because the Colts had no night game. So

Speaker 1 there was a lot. There was a lot that goes into it.
But I do believe the family that owns the Colts take great pride in the tradition of the uniform and the logo and everything like that.

Speaker 1 Anyways, I'm happy to hear you're not an owner that's super duper greedy and just tries to turn out an alternate jersey just to get a few bucks. You know, just to get a few bucks.

Speaker 1 Because why would you want to do that for Burling? You know,

Speaker 1 why would you want to get a few more bucks? Maybe sign some free agents. Keep that goalie.

Speaker 1 Keep that goalie.

Speaker 1 Hey, he's a real deal.

Speaker 1 He's a guy, isn't he?

Speaker 5 He's a dog. He's a dog.
He will be the number one for England at some point. He is a dog.

Speaker 1 He's going to be very expensive for you, so maybe we start selling these yellow jerseys. Maybe we start doing some business out there.
Go ahead, Common. He's going to have to play for the Bengals.

Speaker 1 Yeah, wasn't that the deal between you and the goalie? I've seen it on the internet.

Speaker 5 It was the deal. I was literally just joking around.
He's a big Bengals fan, so we were messing around. And he said, How about you come out of retirement?

Speaker 5 This is before the Bengals played the Steelers, so he was trying to round me up a little bit. He said, how about you come out of retirement and play for the the Bengals?

Speaker 5 And I said, Well, if you don't allow a goal the rest of the year, then I'll do it. It's a deal.
And we have played five games since then.

Speaker 5 He has allowed zero goals and he saved two penalties in 10 minutes in the last game. So he took it very seriously.

Speaker 5 After three games, I messaged him. I said, Hey, you're taking this a little too serious.
He messaged me and he said,

Speaker 5 How do you eat a whale one bite at a time? And then after this past game, I said, all right, now you're getting real serious. He said, I want this pretty bad, man.

Speaker 5 So it's, it's heating up a little bit. We still got 18 games left.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. So that's a lot.
You know, we're nowhere near it. You know, we're nowhere near the end, but hey, how do you eat a whale?

Speaker 1 You don't. Tell them.
Do you tell them you don't want a guy to be on your team that eats whales? But nonetheless. This is a Kennedy guy.
What's that? This is a Bobby Kennedy guy? That's true.

Speaker 1 A whale's gluten-free. Remember they put it on the table? Yeah, remember he

Speaker 1 took a chainsaw and sliced the whale's head off and then put it on top of of his car, driving back to the beach. Yeah.
You remember this? No. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. True story.

Speaker 1 True story. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Drove on top of his bolster.

Speaker 1 I'm okay. I'm going to look this up.
True story. I'm going to do my reason.
I'm excited to look this up. I don't remember this story at all.
Beached whale.

Speaker 1 He said, we got to get this thing out of here. Go grab my chainsaw.
Sliced his head off, put it on top of his car, like luggage back in the day, and tied it on there.

Speaker 1 His daughter told the whole story. That's actually what happened.

Speaker 1 Here we we go.

Speaker 1 Boom.

Speaker 1 RFK Jr. being investigated for decapitating a whale and driving across the city lines with a scoreboard.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's real. Hey, hey, we're just letting you know.
Just new journalists. Just report the journalists.
We didn't create this report. No.
That was actually out there.

Speaker 1 I must have missed that one. Yeah, yeah.
That was the middle of the season there, September 15th, 2024, whenever they were out to get everybody. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Was Aaron almost the vice president at this time? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 It's amazing what they find out during those times. All right.
Anyways, I don't know. You're right.
I don't know what Bob did.

Speaker 1 Maybe he thinks it's healthy, but I don't think that's going to become cuisine for anybody. But if he goes, you have to play for him, too, right? This kind of a thing.

Speaker 1 Like, you would have to play for the Banks. Oh,

Speaker 5 if he does this, I will do it. Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1 Holy shit. Put it on C.
Geek Dicker. Jage potentially back.
He said this past season was the last time. Yep.
This is the last time anybody will do it.

Speaker 1 But that defense, they lose their defense coordinator. Lou Annarumo, now defense coordinator for the Indianapolis Colts.
Ben Johnson, now the head coach of the Chicago Bears.

Speaker 1 Pete Carroll's name is being linked to the Las Vegas Raiders now. Allegedly, Tom Brady's running that whole thing, too, over there.
Tom Brady's running that entire thing.

Speaker 1 Saints don't have a coach. Jacksonville Jaguars don't have a coach.

Speaker 1 Aaron Glenn, potentially going to the Jets, but they're saying he's also maybe going to the Saints, who aren't able to do in-person interviews for a few days because of snowstorm.

Speaker 1 Which one of those storylines is most intriguing to you? Jacksonville Jaguars potentially bringing Sala back. I think Salah was down there as a coach at one point, knows the Cotton family well, right?

Speaker 1 That's correct. He was a linebackers coach down there for a while.
He's probably going to get that and have a guy. A guy.

Speaker 1 Okay, so maybe Salah goes down to Jacksonville, which hasn't really been chatted about.

Speaker 1 Liam Cohen just signed an extension with the Tampa Buccaneers, allegedly going to $4.5 million a year as a coordinator, pulling his name from the Jacksonville Jaguar job.

Speaker 1 Which one of those stories do you think is most intriguing? Like Ben Johnson in Chicago, does that change anything? Aaron Glenn, if he goes to the Jets, does that change anything?

Speaker 1 Like, which one do you think we should pay? Pete Carrollgan back. Which one do you like the most that is kind of being lingered right now or have already happened?

Speaker 5 I got a few thoughts. I got a few thoughts on the coaching situations right now.
I think, A, Chicago has to be excited.

Speaker 5 Obviously, we have no idea what's going to happen, but it feels like they got the number one hot ticket guy of this coaching carousel. And that seems like a change from the past, in my opinion.

Speaker 5 I mean, unless there's something that I'm forgetting or missing here. This seems like, holy shit, the Bears actually got the guy.
They have the young quarterback.

Speaker 5 They have, you know, some of those pieces that you feel like you add a great coach to it and they have a chance to flourish. So if I'm a Bears fan, I'm sitting there extremely excited right now.

Speaker 5 Obviously, a long way to go. We'll see what happens.

Speaker 5 But overall, with this coaching circuit, I think it's partially to do with the rule changes for when you can do your interviews, but it does seem like it's taking a little bit longer than coaching carousels normally take to fill out.

Speaker 5 And it also feels like coaches are being much more selective in how they are going about teams. It's not just, can I get a head coaching job?

Speaker 5 It's I want to land in the right situation with the right quarterback, with the right GM, with the right organizational structure.

Speaker 5 I do think that's starting to play into effect more where head coaches aren't just like, I'll take any job just to become a head coach, because they're starting to see that if you get in the wrong situation with the wrong ownership or the wrong team or the wrong makeup or the salary cap, you could be one and done, and that could ruin your only shot.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but you get a guaranteed contract. You know, there's always a fine balance.

Speaker 1 And I'm intrigued to see what Cliff Kingsbury decides to do because he said he's not doing any interviews until their run is over.

Speaker 1 Ben Johnson, you know, he didn't do, didn't sign on to be the coach of the Chicago Bears until immediately after the Lions lose. Then the Lions fans got all pissed off.
Lions fans

Speaker 1 basically kicked him out the door. Hey, thanks for nothing, bud.
You brought us back to real prominence and relevancy and number one seed in the NFC. And our offense was electrifying to watch.

Speaker 1 Going to a game was so much fun. We were obviously scoring more than the other team.
Great. Haven't done that in a long time.

Speaker 1 But the way we were scoring was explosive, and you brought the best out of a lot of people that we haven't had. With that being said, you went to the Chicago Bears.

Speaker 1 You're already trying to put a staff together. Go fuck yourself.
That is what a lot of people in Detroit were saying, right?

Speaker 7 That's what everyone's saying. I still don't understand it because we still have MCDC.
We still have Jared Goff. We still have that incredible weapons around him.
We still have a great defense.

Speaker 7 We still have so many. pieces.
We're the back-to-back NFC North champions. So I personally am not afraid of Ben Johnson.
but it sounds like a lot of Lions fans are afraid and they are deflecting.

Speaker 1 Okay, I like that you're calling it afraid as opposed to just mad. What are your thoughts on this particular situation with Ben Johnson and Detroit Lions and now the Chicago Bears?

Speaker 5 I can understand being disappointed that your great offensive coordinator is gone and the fun football that you've been watching.

Speaker 5 Now you have to hope it keeps happening, but I don't understand the anger. I don't understand like this.

Speaker 5 Why is he taking this job? Like you get a chance to be a head coach in the National Football League.

Speaker 5 This is a chance that you dream about from the day you start coaching and you should be happy for them because that means your team has been successful.

Speaker 5 You know, there's other teams out there who are complaining that their coaches have never had coordinators hired to be head coaches other places.

Speaker 5 You have both of your coordinators looking at other jobs and being the two top candidates in the entire coaching carousel. That means you're doing something right.

Speaker 5 That means you have a great organization. That means everything is going well where you are.
And that also means that your head coach picked those two guys.

Speaker 5 So maybe you should trust him that he's he's going to pick two more great guys and fill in those roles. So I don't think there needs to be all this fury.
Be happy for him.

Speaker 5 I have a feeling a lot of players in that locker room are happy for him because he made them look great and play great. And they also know how hard he worked and how big of a dream this is for him.

Speaker 5 So I just, I don't understand the like extreme anger about it.

Speaker 1 Amen. It's because it's in the division.
It's in the division and he immediately, he's been talking to Dennis Hallin about joining his staff.

Speaker 1 So the Lions fans are like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I thought we were paying attention to winning games or whatever.

Speaker 1 Kingsbury said, like, hey, I'm not going to even entertain any of those until after, and then they win, and he's the OC of the other team. Yeah, and I don't want to talk about this.

Speaker 1 I don't want to keep making points to debunk the Detroits anger. Like, Cliff Kingsbury has already been a head coach.
He's already got a head coach and guarantee contract. He's still getting paid off.

Speaker 1 Ben Johnson's never been a head coach before. So Ben Johnson, not just in the last four days before the Commanders-Lions games, has reached out to people to say, hey, would you join me?

Speaker 1 This has been happening probably for years.

Speaker 7 Exactly. And he's earned this.

Speaker 5 And they put up like 500 yards of offense, too, in this last game?

Speaker 1 Yeah, but he was saving plays for Caleb, wasn't he? Yeah, that's kind of the word I'm saying. Yeah, that J-Mo pick, he dialed up.
See how much nonsense this is?

Speaker 7 This is why I don't understand why Lions fans are upset. It makes no sense.
They're acting like this has never happened in the NFL before. It happens all the time.

Speaker 1 I think it makes a ton of sense. How rarely I do.
I do. Yeah, how often are the guys goes?

Speaker 5 That's why if you want to be mad at the Bears' head coach and you want to say, I don't like the Bears' head coach because I'm a Detroit Lions fan, that's fine.

Speaker 1 But to be mad at to be mad at him the coordinator for leaving your team that i don't understand okay well fans can do fan stuff and i'll tell you what the lions expectations are really high now are you gonna be able to do it without oc and dc that have led you to this prominence now i think mcdc is able to find guys i think mcdc's culture is settled in there but this is what your world is now this is what a winning franchise is like well you lose your coordinators 100 and like honestly that's why i'm not that worried about the bears or the division aj says it all the time who cares about winning the NFC North when you want to win a Super Bowl?

Speaker 7 And so now I'm looking at like Nick Siriani. He went and found two new coordinators.
It took a year, and now he's back in the championship weekend. So hopefully MCDC can do the same.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and it's an NFC East championship weekend. I thought the NFC North was the one.

Speaker 5 Foxy, what's your window? Foxy, what's the Detroit window? What does it look like right now?

Speaker 1 You don't know this next year. No, we got a lot of young guys.

Speaker 7 We got golf for a couple more years. I mean, the roster's so young, young, and MCDC is going to have them ready to go.
So I still think we're right there. I'm not worried one bit about that.

Speaker 1 Okay, we have some breaking news out of the NFL. The New York Jets have officially hired Aaron Glenn as their next head coach to be the leader of men at one Jets drive over there in New Jersey.

Speaker 1 Obviously, Aaron Glenn played, coached, understands that building over there.

Speaker 1 And what he's been able to do with Detroit with injuries to every starter, basically, while still remaining the defense coordinator of a team that would end up being the number one seed in the NFC before losing a devastator to the Washington Commanders.

Speaker 1 He's now a head coach in the NFL. You know, the last couple of years, his name has been floated in a lot of different jobs.

Speaker 1 I think last coaching cycle, if he would have won all in, he probably could have got a head coaching job with how great he has done in the turnaround that has happened up there in Detroit.

Speaker 1 Now, he seemingly has found the job that he wants, going back into New York, New Jersey area to lead the Jets to potential prominence. I'll start with you, Jage.

Speaker 1 What do you think about Aaron Glenn getting the head coaching job with the Jets? And this was kind of an unkept secret for like the last four days, seemingly. Everybody knew this was going to happen.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I like it. I think every single person you talk to talks about how prepared and how ready he is to be a head coach, how they think he's going to have great success.

Speaker 5 I think the fact that he was a first-round pick for the Jets, that he was a scout for the Jets, I think somebody being in that organization before, not necessarily from the success of it, but from caring about it, from having a passion about it, from not just being an outsider who's never had any connection before.

Speaker 5 He's going to want to do something great with that. He's going to want to change the fortunes.
He's going to want to be the one to take it to that next level.

Speaker 5 Now, obviously, you've got to figure out some things there. You've got the quarterback situation.
You've got that future, but you win in New York. You can basically write your own ticket in that city.

Speaker 5 So it's going to be a lot of fun to see how that goes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and you'll be on TV forever. You know, if you go to New York, you have a job in TV forever.

Speaker 1 He's got a guaranteed contract now at head coach, which is going to be big money, especially with the success success that he's had.

Speaker 1 We just saw Ben Johnson allegedly sign for $13 million with the Chicago Bears. Debuts, your thoughts on Aaron Glenn gets a lot of money.

Speaker 5 You're slamming the guaranteed contract. I like it.
It's a little players got to start.

Speaker 1 I mean, there's a lot of players. Hopefully with the new NFLPA, after we lay off 150 people, did you? 100

Speaker 1 people got laid off? Did you know we had 150 people? I didn't know.

Speaker 5 I was just about to ask, what do they do?

Speaker 1 500. Yeah, 500,

Speaker 1 530 or something. like 500 nflpa 530.
yeah laid off 150 you won't even know it still have a yeah we got to up the

Speaker 1 we got to up

Speaker 1 500 full-time employees 150 people got laid off and uh they're getting paid a year worth yeah full-time 500 something nflpa gotta up the fees too though gotta gotta build up the war chest gotta build up the war chest yeah for who for who do we have to have you guys got anything done what what do we five we've lost we're getting crushed on cbas left and right every single every single thing merch deals contract i mean everything tv you name it

Speaker 1 l l l l l we need more employees get it right we need more employees actually we need more people that we could spend these doofus's money that they're just giving us blindly

Speaker 1 remember used to have rats walking around a locker room before us that's right guys used to have to work three jobs before us guys used to smoke sigs in the building before us

Speaker 1 we saved it

Speaker 1 entire thing what we're doing we need to hire 100 more people yeah to do what

Speaker 1 to do it we're talking about to do what keep slides on doing it man doing it who do you think puts these slides together the rats in the locker room

Speaker 1 who do you think who do you think does this come out of nowhere who do you think does this pity party every single time we come around and get you at the end of your workday after you've worked already nine days on a thursday and they have a meeting any questions you're like

Speaker 1 11 000 bucks those meetings are the those meetings are the biggest joke of all time we got our madden check we got your madden check as soon as we get out of here everybody's gonna just pick up a check for doing nothing 13 000 15 000 bucks Any questions?

Speaker 1 Madden checks on deck. Any questions? That's what we thought.
All right. See you later, everybody.
We got to go to the next town. All right, 600 people.
Let's go up. Let's get over.

Speaker 1 Do the same song and dance over here. These fucking idiots don't know anything.

Speaker 1 Bang, ready to the next one. Hey, any questions? That's what I thought.
All right, pick it up. Show goes on.
Staying four seasons, too. Every suite that you have.

Speaker 5 Four seasons.

Speaker 5 We're going to vote for your team rep, and he's going to be cut the next year. And we're going to vote for a new one, and he's going to be cut the next year.

Speaker 5 We're going to vote for a new one, he's going to be cut the next year. Oh, you don't want to be a rep? Why? I don't know, because they've all been cut every single year after they become the rep.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Mawai, is that the center? Yeah, Kevin Mawai, Hall of Famer, unbelievable, becomes president of the NFLPA. Can't get a job.
Yeah, you're retired now. Oh, great.

Speaker 1 So, who ends up being the reps that are voting on all these things? Uh,

Speaker 1 long snappers. Bingo.

Speaker 1 It is

Speaker 1 an interesting dilemma over there, but I I think the NFLPA laid off the bad 150 people. Yeah.
And we hope they get new jobs.

Speaker 1 And we're thankful that as players that we could just send a check blankly and you have a job. Way to go.
They're getting it right over there.

Speaker 1 They'll trigger it out. They're getting it right over there.

Speaker 1 But the head coach guaranteed contract, the reason why it's such a big deal is because 13 million bucks, four or five years, whatever it is, I mean, you're getting paid.

Speaker 1 throughout the entirety of that check. You're a baseball player.
You're an NBA guy.

Speaker 1 So if a ownership or organization wants to change their mind after a year, you could be a professional golfer making more money than most of them other than Scottie Scheffler for the next four years, getting paid off of last year, the year before.

Speaker 1 Cliff Kingsbury is still getting paid off the Arizona Cardinals deal. McDaniels.
Yeah, McDaniels still getting paid. He's up to New England.
Congratulations to New England, Josh. Josh McDaniels

Speaker 1 is now the offensive coordinator for the New England Patriots while he's still getting Raiders checks. I mean, it is...
It's insane how it works. But yes, NFLPA is going to figure it out, Jage.

Speaker 1 NFLPA is going to figure it out. They got the right 350 guys there.

Speaker 1 They had the right hand ladies. Yeah, D-Bot has a question for you, James.

Speaker 2 I'm going to ask you about the defensive fronts left in the Conference Championships. Who do you have, I guess, the most confidence in going forward to win these things and get to the Super Bowl?

Speaker 5 I mean,

Speaker 5 I just obviously, I'm a Houston guy, and I just watched Carloftis take it to tight ends.

Speaker 5 You can't block guys with tight ends.

Speaker 5 I'm just going to say that right now.

Speaker 5 Chris Jones, obviously, up there as a beast. That first sack that he had,

Speaker 5 he just ran straight past.

Speaker 5 That was a tough one. And they got Omenahu back.

Speaker 5 He wasn't out there the last time that they played the Bills.

Speaker 5 So he's great. I think

Speaker 5 the Eagles front is phenomenal. So I think my top two would be the Chiefs and the Eagles right now.
We'll see how Jaden handles that. But the Chiefs just,

Speaker 5 they blew through the Texans. And Spags at the end of the game brought heat.
I mean, he brought, it was perfect. He brought heat at the right time, and they hit and they hit and they hit.

Speaker 5 And so it just closed out the game. He knows what he's doing.
There's a reason he's possibly a Hall of Famer as only an assistant coach. It's, it's incredible.

Speaker 1 I think he's definitely going to be a Hall of Famer as an assistant coach.

Speaker 1 Every time they put out stats about what he's done, nobody else has done it, basically, in most of the success and wins and everything like that. Let's talk about that game a little bit.

Speaker 1 The storyline of this game is the Chiefs are still the Chiefs and the Refs want the Chiefs to win.

Speaker 1 As a Houston Texans homer, as a citizen, I believe, of Houston now, as a guy who's in the bull ring of honor in Houston, what were your thoughts on how the stripes worked?

Speaker 1 And calls like this happen, and where Patrick Bahmas almost lost his entire skull. Damn it.
And everybody said, and then he's flopping on the sideline as the face of football.

Speaker 1 Age, what was your big takeaway from the chatter that followed this convo, which is the Chiefs are in bed with the refs. And it's very obvious, which is pretty much the sentiment.

Speaker 5 Age or Jage? Jage. Sorry, you said Age.

Speaker 1 Jage. Oh, me.

Speaker 1 And it's confusing, though. A couple J's left.

Speaker 5 The two calls everybody's talking about, I think, are justifiably talked about. I think that they're legitimate.
I think it was great how Troy called them out. I think that was all great.

Speaker 5 I also think it's absolutely absurd that they've come out after the fact and said, no, we made those calls correctly. Like, let's just like

Speaker 5 the whole country agree.

Speaker 5 Like, let's not don't even get into that now what I will say is Pat is notorious for knowing how to take full advantage of the rules like he's he's a great quarterback because he does everything great not just on the field playing and everything but he also knows how to take full advantage he'll slide late he'll stay tight tightrope along the sidelines and make you hit him so it looks like he's out of bounds he'll do all these things Don't blame him for that one bit.

Speaker 5 I would do it too if they were giving me the calls.

Speaker 5 To me, that's more on the refs, which is why I was happy to see that they didn't throw a flag on that sideline one because they weren't going to give that.

Speaker 5 So hopefully you're sending the message that that's not going to work for us anymore. But those two other calls, the reason they lost the game, absolutely not.

Speaker 5 You can't complain about the refs is the reason we lost. We'll see you in the next round and how it keeps going.
See you tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Whoa, not bad.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 holy shit. Okay, Jay.
That was pretty.

Speaker 5 Not how you... I just started talking bullshit at the end of that.

Speaker 1 No, you know. I knew I had to retreat.
No, yeah. Hey, listen, every once in a while you got to find an exit.

Speaker 1 You know, there's been multiple times I've been on TV and there's no exit in sight, you know, with where I'm at. And I have somebody telling me in my ear, hey, we got to go.

Speaker 1 And it's like, I don't know where you want me to go, bo.

Speaker 1 There is nowhere for me to head to. And then the brain just starts, how do we get out of this? And it's like,

Speaker 1 talk back.

Speaker 1 Wish I could say, we got about four to five more takes in this thing. I don't know where you want me to go.
You found an exit perfectly, I'd say. And

Speaker 1 that was real hosting stuff. That was great.

Speaker 1 Yesterday,

Speaker 1 we sent it to a break, and we didn't go to a break. And then we're on for another 45 seconds.
It worked today. It worked today.
But that was certainly something. Nice.
That was certainly something.

Speaker 1 So you actually said.

Speaker 5 You guys, yesterday was impressive, huh? I mean, you guys had to be a tough day.

Speaker 1 Yesterday was a massive day. What day is today? Wednesday.
Yeah. So Tuesday was a massive day digitally for us because national championship Monday night kind of carries in to Tuesday.

Speaker 1 Huge day digitally. One half of the hammer.
Done.

Speaker 1 Cowboys, Bubba Gumpino, Gumpy, huge day on the interwebs for the old Pat McFree show.

Speaker 1 It was a massive day on X on Monday and Tuesday.

Speaker 1 What was it? 83.9 million impressions.

Speaker 1 It was huge.

Speaker 1 That was awesome.

Speaker 1 So I used to, you know, with X and Twitter, you can always see those numbers. like in the back end of it.
If you pay for the blue check mark now, you get that.

Speaker 1 If before you used to have a blue check mark to get that and had it, and I would always check it and the numbers would be wild. Like X and Twitter has always been a platform that I focused on.

Speaker 1 That's always been where I live since the very beginning. That's literally the only thing I've really done.
You as well, I believe. And like the numbers would be huge.

Speaker 1 And I'll be like, I don't want to post these because I don't know if these are big numbers. Like, I don't know what's a big number.
You know, like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 Like, if I put this out, is somebody just going to fuck in? Yeah, comparatively. Yeah, who's this?

Speaker 1 Now we're at the point where it's like, I think people should see what ours are at least. And then let's see what is everybody else.
80-some million in two days is a wild day on X.

Speaker 1 And I'll tell you what, whenever you're having those numbers, you get a lot of people that don't like you on there.

Speaker 1 A lot of people are seeing it. A lot of people that like you are seeing it.

Speaker 1 Focus on those ones. A lot of people that hate you are seeing it as well.
People hate Russell Wilson. They shouldn't.
Did you see Russ on the show? Did you see any of him talking to us?

Speaker 5 I saw him.

Speaker 5 I didn't have the sound on. My son was watching Moana, so I had Moana.

Speaker 5 I didn't have the sound on. What did I miss?

Speaker 1 Listen, kid, I can can go on and on. I can explain every natural phenomenon, you know.

Speaker 1 It's a good movie, man. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 Good movie. I'm going to see two this afternoon.
I've heard mixed reviews on two, but

Speaker 1 I've heard great deal. It's unbelievable.
Just like the red one, the rocks in it, it's going to be good. So

Speaker 1 that is just what you need to know. Moana 2 is going to be good because of it.
Russ is just like Russ, I think. I think he's always Russ.

Speaker 1 I think it's similar to what you had to deal with there for a bit. You were being portrayed as this superhuman, perfect guy, right?

Speaker 1 And I think you sensed it and you backed away from everything because you were kind of over that being a thing. Not that you're not a superhuman and a good guy, but whenever everybody is like saying,

Speaker 1 like pushing it and thrusting it basically in people's faces, humans are naturally going to start hating that thing. I mean, that's just kind of how it goes.
Everything is professional wrestling.

Speaker 1 Like that is life. So like Tim Tebow had it.
I think you had it for a bit. Russ is very much in the middle of this type of thing too.
Like, look at this perfect guy. Huh? Isn't he perfect? He is.

Speaker 1 He is perfect. Look at this guy.
He's doing all by himself a fake drive down the field with a Sky Cam right over top of him. He's going through the huddle.
He's visualizing everything.

Speaker 1 And it's like, is Russ doing that for the camera? It's got to be. Look at this guy.
Look at this guy. Look at this guy.
So he's kind of been a victim of that thing.

Speaker 1 After talking to him, it feels like he is who. I think he's being portrayed to be.

Speaker 1 And maybe some of it is a little corny, but I think he's just trying to be a good, good force in this world, especially in sports. So I respected him coming on, and I thought he he did a great job.

Speaker 5 And I think there's also a thing that's like, okay, how long does somebody have to do it? Let's call it an act or not. How long do they have to do it before? No, that just is who they are.

Speaker 5 If they are acting, that is a 15-year act that is gone on, and that is who they are. I mean, the guy goes to the hospital every single Tuesday for his entire life.

Speaker 5 Like, do you think he's just putting on this every Tuesday? And he's like, at some point, these people are going to see it. No, he's just doing it because that's what he does.
That's who he is.

Speaker 5 I know mine obviously is a little bit different, but I agree.

Speaker 5 There was a time where I went through that where I, there's definitely a time where I wanted people to think that like, oh, Captain America, all this perfect and everything.

Speaker 5 And you try and portray everything. You want to control every interview.
And I think there's a part of that where you're a little, I don't know if it's scared or worried.

Speaker 5 You're like, I don't know if people would actually like you if you just were yourself. You're supposed to play a character.
You're supposed to be this perfect image.

Speaker 5 You're leading a franchise or doing these things. You want to give out the perfect image.

Speaker 5 And then there just comes a point where you're like, nah, like, I can't, for me, I was like, I can't, I can't do this forever. Like, and, you know, people didn't like it.
So I was like, fuck it.

Speaker 5 If they're not going to like me anyway, might as well just be myself.

Speaker 5 Yeah, just be normal. And so.

Speaker 1 Is there an imposter syndrome that comes in there too? Like, I wonder about that. You know, like, like Tim Tebow, the way he was being covered was as if he was Jesus Christ.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's, holy shit. Still might be.
Jesus playing for him. Might be.
I mean, we don't know. Jesus is a lefty.
I don't know if we knew that. And he plays quarterback quarterback for the Florida Gators.

Speaker 1 Like, that is how he was being portrayed. You remember? We all remember it.
That was like ESP. That was literally sports media.
I wonder if there's ever

Speaker 1 that weight, the weight of that

Speaker 1 has to be real.

Speaker 3 No doubt.

Speaker 5 No doubt. Yeah, because they're like, okay, at some point, like, I'm a normal human here.
Like,

Speaker 5 people are going to, at some point, they're going to turn on you. And also, that's something with our society.
They want to, like, they want to build people up, but then they also want to turn on.

Speaker 5 Doesn't matter who you are, doesn't matter how great you are, doesn't matter how much success you have.

Speaker 5 They want to see the rise and they also want to see the fall. So

Speaker 5 it's knowing that that's also there at some point too.

Speaker 5 It's an interesting place to be.

Speaker 5 I wasn't at that level, but it's got to be interesting.

Speaker 1 You're up there, brother. Yeah, brother.
I mean, you're on every,

Speaker 1 we saw a lot of J Jerf.

Speaker 1 It's happening now. Saw it for.

Speaker 1 With some people. Like, I know right now the tide has turned a little with Jason Kelsey, just because he's on so many things.
Exposed everyone. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And, you know, I think JJ has brought this up before. Like, a lot of times, like, hey, look, people are offering you money to do stuff.
Like, who are you? You got a family. You have things.

Speaker 1 Like, who are you to say no to these? Die out of Cleveland. Yeah, but like, exactly.
And, you know, he has his own business to run and things of that nature.

Speaker 1 But you can kind of sense that on the internet, at least. Like, he's in a lot of commercials.
He's doing a lot of shows. And, of course, a Philly guy.

Speaker 1 Like, there are people who know him as just like, hey, center offensive lineman. And now people don't know him as that anymore.
And so naturally, people are turning. We are scared.
Like, obviously,

Speaker 1 go ahead.

Speaker 1 No, no, go ahead.

Speaker 5 There also is a figuring out of wading through the waters of that world if you've never been in it before. I mean, you mentioned, like, yes, he's been extremely famous.

Speaker 5 He's been an offensive lineman his whole career, the Super Bowl, he had the speech and all that, but he hasn't necessarily had a lot of the same commercial opportunities coming his way-the TV show opportunities, the night show opportunities.

Speaker 5 So, you're wading through these waters for the first time with people just throwing offer after offer after offer and opportunity after opportunity at you and everything sounds incredible because you've never had it at this level before so people are like we'll give you X amount of dollars for this commercial it takes one day to film that amount of money for one day absolutely we'll give you this amount of money to have your own show and you can have your wife on and your kids yes that sounds great I would love to do that you don't at the moment think about like oh these people are gonna backlash against me for this or that for the other thing and as you go through it then you start to learn what you really love to do what you want to do what makes sense from a a financial and a time commitment standpoint, and blending it all together and trying to find that right thing.

Speaker 5 The first time you go through it, man, it is hard to say no. It's almost impossible because you're just like, this is unbelievable.

Speaker 1 We appreciate you saying that, telling your story, obviously, because you were a part of that whole thing. And we think Jason Kelsey is going to be just fine long term.
But there's been a lot.

Speaker 1 And as somebody who's on TV a lot, you know, me, Age, the boys, we're out there a lot. There's a lot of us.

Speaker 1 Like the commercial world, that's when you're showing up when people don't know you're going to show up. Like, I feel like where we are now, everybody knows where we're going to be.

Speaker 1 Okay, the assholes are showing up. The asshole is going to be on this.

Speaker 1 The commercial thing is like, now you're just in every bang, bang, bang. Truly getting shoved down people's throat.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so that's a big, that's a big decision to be made when you get in the commercial world. Obviously, you've done a great job.

Speaker 1 Your commercials have been very well received this year, I think, right? Don't you think all your commercials have been very well received?

Speaker 5 Yeah, they've been great.

Speaker 5 They've all been good. Dodge has been great.

Speaker 5 They helped my foundation a lot, which was cool, the Dodge Ram.

Speaker 5 The Dicks one with the commercial,

Speaker 5 that was awesome.

Speaker 3 The Christmas one.

Speaker 5 But that's one of those things I'm talking about. Like, I'm trying to pick and choose and have a little more input in the creative so that when it goes out there, I'm really proud of it.

Speaker 5 And I'm like, this, I'm okay with it. So the ones that I do now, if people have backlash on them, I don't care because I am 100% completely comfortable and confident in them.

Speaker 5 And that's just somebody who wants to be met.

Speaker 1 I love that. All right.
Another guy that's probably going to experience this going forward is maybe having the greatest rookie year in the history of the NFL.

Speaker 1 And somehow, we're saying that after what C.J. Stroud was able to do last year, AJ has a question for you.
JJ?

Speaker 4 Jay, I wonder your thoughts on the commanders as a whole. Obviously, they're taking on Philly.
I've said before, like, I think they have a chance to win this game for sure.

Speaker 4 I think they got something special going on. What are your thoughts on the commanders, Dan Quinn, and obviously Jaden Daniels and his historic run as a rookie quarterback?

Speaker 5 I think it's A, awesome to watch. The way he handles himself, the poise, the calmness, the confidence, the ability, the talent, it's unbelievable.

Speaker 5 And then B, I think it's the perfect example of what happens when all the stars in an organization align.

Speaker 5 Clearly, the Commanders had a problem for many, many years and struggled for many, many years under previous ownership. They change ownership.
They hire a new head coach. They have a new GM.

Speaker 5 They get a rookie quarterback. And all of those things combined combined to create a successful situation and basically an incubator for an explosive success.
And that's what we're seeing right here.

Speaker 5 So I think of it as, you look at all these other owners around the league, and I think of this coaching carousel that we're going through right now.

Speaker 5 And I always picture these front offices meeting with their owner, and the owner sitting down and pointing to the commanders and saying, why can't we do what they just did?

Speaker 5 They have a new coach, a new GM, and a rookie quarterback. And they're in the NFC championship in their very first year.
We're about to have a new coach.

Speaker 5 This guy better have us in the championship this next year. Why can't we do that? And I just laugh because of how unrealistic and how crazy that is, but the commanders did it.

Speaker 5 And it's a top-to-bottom change. They had a full, complete change of philosophy.
They changed an entire organization which had a history of struggling for the last 20 plus years.

Speaker 5 And they changed it all in two years, one year really with the coach and GM. It's just a credit to when everything aligns.

Speaker 5 And it also speaks to what happens if we put quarterbacks in good situations as opposed to young quarterbacks in tough situations.

Speaker 1 What are the names of that team over there in D.C.? What are the names of that team? It was the football team? The Commanders. My favorite one.
And then what was the football team's your favorite one?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But not their... Their fans seemingly have another favorite one.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 they don't like the other two.

Speaker 5 They like one of them. We were having a conversation about this on the CBS desk the other day.
You guys say it on air?

Speaker 1 You guys said it on air?

Speaker 5 No, no, but this is the conversation that we were having because we were watching an interview with one of the former players and he was talking about, he said, said, I got drafted by the Washington Redskins.

Speaker 5 And like, they were like, I don't know if you can say that on air. And I'm like, well, that's, how would you say that?

Speaker 5 If you were drafted in, if you were drafted in 1995, what team do you say you were drafted? Like when you were doing it?

Speaker 1 Well, we know how you would say. We just found out.
Yeah. Say the Ottawa team.
Yeah, yes. The Otter franchise?

Speaker 1 Yeah, potentially the Ottawa one.

Speaker 1 Harry McLaurin was actually drafted to that Washington team when they were known as the

Speaker 5 Washington Redskins. That was the name of the team.

Speaker 1 Jesus Christ. Holy shit, they fly.
This show. Capital Era.
Every single day. How would you throw your heart if you had to throw it to a group of people?

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Not that way.

Speaker 1 Overhand, maybe overhand throw.

Speaker 1 What is the way you would do it? We talked about a few different styles. Cricket might have been the one.
Cricket's going to be.

Speaker 4 If you would have grabbed that and then just started doing that.

Speaker 5 I like the frisbee. It's just I like the frisbee out.

Speaker 1 I don't want to be.

Speaker 1 Got a good windup. Thank you.
Yeah, that was a long last cricket draw. Yeah, you got to split the wicket somehow.
Got to throw it to a bunch of people there.

Speaker 1 That's as far as I get watching one of those games. I try, and then I see the whole run-up and the runner.
I go, oh. The highlights are electric.
They are Smithsonian. That's all I see.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's all I see is the full on. Oh, you watch cricket.

Speaker 4 They have like three-month games, don't they? Nah,

Speaker 1 it can't last that long. I think that's bullshit.

Speaker 5 Everything's coming up Burnley. Greatest English cricket bowler of all time, Jimmy Anderson, grew up in Burnley.

Speaker 1 Really? Was he a lefty or a righty? I couldn't even imagine being a southball in that world. I think there's some countries.
I believe he's a righty bone to pick with that.

Speaker 4 I've never seen a lefty.

Speaker 1 Yeah, India probably has.

Speaker 5 There's some countries that have a bone to pick with that. I said he's the greatest English bowler of all time.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, the sun never set on the English Empire, too. So, what do you, you know, what are you really

Speaker 1 you know about that? You know about the history?

Speaker 5 Uh, I know some history, I don't know all of it.

Speaker 1 Should look in.

Speaker 5 I watched Gladiator 2 the other day. Does that count?

Speaker 1 How long? How is it?

Speaker 5 I mean, after one, like, nothing compares to one.

Speaker 1 Oh, I've heard it's very good. Denzel.
I've heard it's really good.

Speaker 5 I love Denzel. Denzel's awesome.
I love it.

Speaker 4 Is it worth watching? It's better, but

Speaker 5 you think it's better?

Speaker 5 Original is definitely. It's still a gladiator movie.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's glad.

Speaker 5 You think two is better than one?

Speaker 2 No, the original, in my opinion, is better, but two is great. But the original, okay.

Speaker 1 But it's not one of this one where they embarrass the franchise. Absolutely not.
Yeah, did too much.

Speaker 1 Definitely not. Don't embarrass the franchise.
Do not embarrass the franchise. It's not a doom to, but...
Great movie. Don't embarrassed program.
No embarrassed program.

Speaker 1 Connor's got a question for you, Jage. Yeah, Jage, I believe right now the Eagles are the betting favorites.

Speaker 1 If they're not the lone favorite, they're either tied with the Chiefs or it's right around the same number. But how do you feel about the Eagles? They're the odds right there.

Speaker 1 They are the betting favorites. How do you feel about the Eagles' chances? And the question really right now is, hey, can Jalen Hurts get it done?

Speaker 1 Does he worry you more so than the other facets of their team? Or what do you think their chances are looking ahead?

Speaker 5 I mean, I've been saying it for a while now. I think their defense is the undersung hero here as opposed to the offense.
I don't think Jalen has to shoulder the load for the entire team.

Speaker 5 I think he has Saquon. I think he has a great offensive line.
I think he has a great defense who's been playing well. Jalen Carter's playing out of his mind.

Speaker 5 So I don't think that he has to shoulder that whole load.

Speaker 5 But I also don't think that you can have a betting favorite not be the Kansas City Chiefs at the moment, just based on their history, based on what they do, based on how they find ways to win.

Speaker 5 So I don't think that that's, in my opinion, accurate, but I do think that the Eagles are set up for success because of how they are built, and they don't expect Jalen to have to win it on his own.

Speaker 1 Hey, Jage, we appreciate the hell out of you. There's one last question coming to you live from Hammer Don.

Speaker 1 AP Tone. Yeah, Jage, I did have a question about, you know, how the Rams kind of handled Jalen Carter and how everybody handles Jalen Carter.

Speaker 1 They double teamed him on over 50% of all of his pass rushes, which I assume you have dealt with many, many times. And then in the fourth quarter, they were like, you know what?

Speaker 1 I think we had this guy handled. And they just tried to single him and then he was let free.
Like, does that ever happen?

Speaker 5 Yeah, so this is crazy. It's a crazy phenomenon about playing defensive line and it's something you have to learn because it's one of the only ways to keep yourself.

Speaker 5 motivated through a game where you're getting doubled all the time because it's unbelievably frustrating and aggravating. So you're getting doubled, you're getting doubled, you're getting doubled.

Speaker 5 But what happens as the game goes on, I'm interested to hear AQ's perspective on this, is teams start to fall back into their routine ways as opposed to what they game plan for this game.

Speaker 5 Because the game gets going, maybe you're getting into two minute drills, whatever it may be. You're setting your protections and you're going.
You're setting your protections and you're going.

Speaker 5 Or you're calling plays that these guys have known since training camp, not necessarily to game plan for this week.

Speaker 5 So all week long, the plan has been double jailing, double jailing every time no matter what.

Speaker 5 But then as you start to get in the fourth quarter, you're falling into those old habits and those old play calls and you just going by your training camp rules as opposed to this week's rules.

Speaker 5 And I found as a defensive lineman, that's when I made a lot of hay was in that fourth quarter.

Speaker 5 And that's what kept me going through all those double teams, knowing at some point they're going to screw up and give me a one-on-one. And that's when I have to win.

Speaker 1 That's where that 10% luck comes in. Well, I think the other interesting thing, too, is with

Speaker 1 double teams, I'd love to know how this is categorized and how they're figuring out if it's a double team or not. There's certain guys, JJ, you were one of them.

Speaker 1 It was, hey, we're going to slide to 99 regardless of where he's at. Aaron Donald was one of them, right?

Speaker 1 But like, even if you remember early in your career when you had Wade Phillips as your D coordinator, he would always set the mic to the three technique. So we could always, we could do that.

Speaker 1 And the same thing whenever he went to L.A., he would set the mic to that. Well, then they bring Staley in, and now Aaron Donald's over here, and the mic's over here.
So you got to pick your poison.

Speaker 1 Are we going to Aaron or are we going to the mic?

Speaker 1 And then also, if it's a three-by-one protection, the nickel's going to be over the slot to the three-by-side, which is also where the three-tech is if you're a nickel over team, right?

Speaker 1 So then you like, the center's always going to slide to the three-tech, right? He's always sliding to the mic in the Sam. Everybody knows that.
Yeah, right. And so like at the end of the day,

Speaker 1 whenever this happens,

Speaker 1 just listen, Sarazak. So you're always

Speaker 1 going to slide to the mic in the protection. So is that really a double team, or is that just part of the protection, I guess? The center is going to be uncovered.

Speaker 5 I've gotten a lot. There has been many Mike 99 games in my day.
Where they don't mic the mic. They mic the D-linem.
I know Aaron Donald's face that as well. There's a few guys that face that.

Speaker 5 There's nothing more frustrating than when you walk out for the first play of the game and they go Mike 99, you're like, oh, shit, this is.

Speaker 1 So explain that. Mike 99 means they're setting the protection off of you.
Normally, whenever they say Mike's this, Mike's this, that's who they're counting in, counting out, right? That's right.

Speaker 1 It's normally Mike's 52, and then you make your sort call, you make your slot, whatever it is. It's Mike 52.
What does that mean?

Speaker 1 That's his number. Yeah, but why? Is that the starting point for you guys? Well, so

Speaker 1 you always read the protection, right? So you look at the defense. If it's too high, then the slot's probably going to be the same.
The next guy is the Mike. The next guy's the Will.

Speaker 1 If it's one high, now the free safety's down over here. He's the Will.
The next guy is the Mike. The next guy's the Sam.
So what to do for your protection, though?

Speaker 1 You just basically find the middle of the three, and you're going to the middle of the three. So there's going to be a center of guard and attack will sorting three of Most Dangerous Four to the Mike.

Speaker 1 But if JJ or Aaron Donald is away from the mic, we might just say, fuck the mic. We don't care.
We will put the back on that guy. We are sorting to.
We're going to him. It's no matter what.

Speaker 5 It's all a numbers game. It's just a numbers game.
They're trying to get the numbers to match up, and that's the easiest way to do it is by doing it with the mic.

Speaker 5 But then sometimes teams will choose a guy, if they're that guy, and they'll just say,

Speaker 5 we can't afford to have that guy ruin the game for us, so set it to him. And sometimes that means somebody's free on the other side.

Speaker 5 And if you've got a good deal coordinator who can take advantage of that, generally it does.

Speaker 1 Is TJ Watt okay? Is he happy?

Speaker 5 I mean, he's not happy. He'd prefer to be playing right now.

Speaker 1 Is he okay? For a different team? Is he all right? Is everything okay with Teach? Teege okay? Gonna come back stronger than ever?

Speaker 5 Yeah, that he's going to do. I can promise you that.

Speaker 1 He's going to play on the other side

Speaker 1 on the other side.

Speaker 1 He's going to play on the outer side and then maybe in the middle, too?

Speaker 5 Not just the other side. I mean, we talk about this literally almost daily, but it's not just going to the other side.
That's not the easiest solution. You have to move all over the place.

Speaker 5 You have to make it so they don't know where you're going to be at any time. So they can't sit in their meetings and say, this is where he's going to be and set all their protections.

Speaker 5 You have to be able to play a three-technique over the nose. You have to be able to play play the other side three technique outside.
And it also has to be within the defense.

Speaker 5 The defense has to be willing to do that as well. And you have to have a plan for that.
And you got to scheme some stuff up.

Speaker 1 And also, if you find a guard who's a fish, right? We can just go here. Yes.

Speaker 5 Yes. Yeah, there's a man to the fish, man.

Speaker 1 There's a mic'd up segment where you find the guy. I think I've watched it before where you sit on a sideline and it's like, yo, we found him.
We found him. And I think it was a guard.

Speaker 1 You were going on the inside and then you started culking the guy. And then there's other mic'd up moments where you're like, They picked the wrong guy.
You remember this guy?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, maybe we're just better, yeah. And then, with

Speaker 1 all the moments, if him might, this guy flips a switch out to me. Oh, yeah, we love it.
We appreciate you, owner. We do, we appreciate you, man.

Speaker 5 I miss, I miss it, I miss it. Bengals, maybe that made me miss it.

Speaker 1 You're gonna have to maybe James Bradford.

Speaker 5 If he does it, dude, I would be because it would be the most incredible feat in the history of sport, I think, if he went 19 more games.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah,

Speaker 1 no goals in soccer in the G League. Come on, yeah, come on,

Speaker 1 impressive. That could be.

Speaker 2 It could be impressive.

Speaker 5 Never seen

Speaker 1 the Demstrade Super Bowls, no doubt.

Speaker 5 Starts today, 2 p.m.

Speaker 1 Who are we playing again? Plymouth Rock, Argyle. Plymouth Argyle, bottom of the table, absolute shite.
They're a tough team, though. Yeah, they have pretty goal scorers.
Absolutely shite.

Speaker 1 They are tough. They're goals.
They're pretty bumpy.

Speaker 1 They got a couple goal scorers that could maybe put this entire Bengals situation in jail. Oh, yeah.
Big Jim. Daw, when James gets it on his left boot, look out.
He shapes that fucker.

Speaker 1 Bends it like Becker. They go, what a dig by James.
Oh, Jimmy Lefty.

Speaker 1 That's why he fucking shapes that thing.

Speaker 1 And then the Cincinnati Bengals' entire Super Bowl hopes next year.

Speaker 1 In the back of their net. He buries Burley Early.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 I feel like the Bengals D-line's already got a few white guys with arm braces on.

Speaker 5 I feel like they've got that.

Speaker 1 They can use another one. They're getting shipped.
Yeah, I think. I don't know if Hendrickson's going to be there, is he?

Speaker 5 I don't know.

Speaker 5 He deserves a lot of money. He's earned a lot of money.
So we'll see what happens there. Mark Chase has earned a lot of money.
Congratulations, buddy. Bet on yourself and won big time.

Speaker 1 Still has another

Speaker 1 year. And then a franchise.

Speaker 5 I hate that process.

Speaker 5 Bring that back to the PA conversation. Because I was the first year of that.
My first year was the first year of the 2011 CBA. Trent Williams was drafted in my same spot the year before me.

Speaker 5 I believe he made

Speaker 5 four four years, $23 million.

Speaker 5 And I was drafted in the exact same spot the next year. It was four years, $11 million.

Speaker 5 And I had a fifth-year team option. Again, this is all perspective.
You can't complain about millions of dollars. No shit.

Speaker 5 But they had the team option, and then they can franchise you, and then they can franchise you. So the team has control for seven years.
You're screwed, man. I got so angry.

Speaker 5 You're the rookie year at the end.

Speaker 1 Is that where it happened? Is that where it started?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I told the rep.

Speaker 1 Is that where JJ

Speaker 1 started? Is that where it started? Shane was there? Shane Gills was there? I was pissed. I was tactful.

Speaker 5 I let them know. I was like, we got screwed here.
And they were like, we don't want rookies to have all the money.

Speaker 3 I was like, well, the whole,

Speaker 5 you have to understand the entire ecosystem.

Speaker 1 They didn't understand the ecosystem. Nope.
We told them that the whole time. That's why it's snowing in New Orleans.
And they knew you were right. That's why they were like, this guy's name is J.J.

Speaker 1 Wah. They say these guys cry.
They tried to deflect. That wasn't the case.
You were JJ. Wow.
Big break.

Speaker 5 At the moment, he's Shane Wah after the national championship.

Speaker 1 There is maybe a couple extra L's in that last name, isn't it? Shane Gilles.

Speaker 1 That's a shame. We don't love that.
We may or may not have talked to him since the game, and he is heartbroken. There's a lot of deflecting going on.
Down bad.

Speaker 1 He's been firing his shots. He really was.

Speaker 5 He became the mascot of the team there for the last few weeks.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's the guy. He got paid to do a prayer.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, that kind of goes without saying. You know, it's bad Juju, probably.

Speaker 5 That's an example of a good commercial. He chose a good commercial to do because that turned out good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, I think Shane's creating all his own, like, they give idea, and then he is producing it. Getting it done.
And that's why they are amazing. Super talent, obviously.
Well, I'm sorry. Talent.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Who's Shane?

Speaker 1 Extra L Gil. What a run by that Notre Dame team.

Speaker 5 Has Sabin called him since the end of that game?

Speaker 1 We had to fool.

Speaker 1 We don't. Saban wants to beat the shit out of him.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yep.

Speaker 1 We don't know if that's true.

Speaker 4 We've not.

Speaker 5 what if he did just choke him what if he went to shane just grabbed him choked him like what would shane do oh hi shane all right i i also want to know this maybe maybe you've talked about it but ryan day seemed legitimately mad about the lou holts thing

Speaker 5 has he done an interview yeah has he done an interview since with you and will is it was it an actual tense thing or was he in the room

Speaker 1 like this this one i just did

Speaker 5 The one where you're sitting down with both of them and then, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I thought Ryan handled it awesome. I thought it was hilarious, actually.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I thought it was was hilarious because there was more he said in there uh that they edited out when he was talking shit to me and to ty he was basically like what do you guys do so you guys just sit down and say how am i going to do something absurd or something like that he was it was very yeah i saw that but like there was a part of me when he said because when he said

Speaker 5 you guys have already got me with this shit once yeah it to me made it seem like he was like all right guys like i'm not this isn't going to be my running joke i'm sick of this shit no i was wondering if he was actually no no look he said he was actually he was i thought it was like the best way he could handle, in my eyes, when I was in it, I was like, this is the best way to handle it.

Speaker 1 And there was 14 people in that room. I mean, it was a pretty packed room with a lot of people.

Speaker 1 Of course. Stiff, stiff, stiff room.
But I thought it was the best reaction personally. Like, when I saw it.

Speaker 5 I think he handled it great. I just wondered if there was actually a little underlying like.

Speaker 1 So here's the issue for Ryan Day, and he knows this. And it's maybe us taking advantage of a situation.
AJ being on this show every day. Okay.

Speaker 1 This guy's like royalty over there in Ohio, like actually, you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 Rightfully so. Bingo.

Speaker 1 Ohio State Legend. I mean, there's a reason.
So I think Ryan Day knows our shit. Like, I think Ryan, like, knows.
I think Ryan knows our show. And I think Ryan knows like we are just fucking.

Speaker 1 Like, I think Ryan, I thought it was great out of Ryan Day. Me too.
Like, as it happened, and then we were talking about it afterwards, didn't even think, like, Dave for a national championship.

Speaker 1 Like, that didn't even cross our mind. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was not even a... It certainly crossed my mind.
For mine, it was not. For mine, it was not even.
It crossed mine when I heard it was happening.

Speaker 4 It crossed my

Speaker 5 honesty.

Speaker 1 See, I didn't even think about it.

Speaker 5 That's what crossed my mind.

Speaker 5 When he was like, I got a guess for you. And in my head, I was like, there's no way you bring it out right now.

Speaker 1 Oh, see, I didn't even think about it.

Speaker 1 That's part of the problem, I think, with this entire thing is like, we go to Dublin, the crowd in the bar can't hear us.

Speaker 1 There was no other option other than me drinking 30 beers with these people because they couldn't hear our show. These people all came, couldn't hear us.

Speaker 1 So they're going to at least get something out of this. Zero other option other than chugging beers.
Then I wake up the next day and I got a lot of people attacking me for that.

Speaker 1 I'm like, I don't, in my you and i are never going to see things the same would you because in my head there was no other option especially for the people being there in that one no other option they're playing notre dame ryan day marcus freeman are there i think we're cool with all parties here's just gotten brought up again like in his you know a very recent press conference talking about it that was the big thing so in my head there's no other option just so we go just so people could get dope there's not even a question of whether or not it's good and then immediately afterwards people are like i can't believe you did that.

Speaker 1 Some people in the room, and I'm like,

Speaker 1 What do you mean? I don't even know what you're talking about. And then I,

Speaker 1 oh, yeah, probably not at the right time, I guess. But no, it is the right time.
It was the only right time. You had to be there.

Speaker 5 So that's what makes you great. That's what makes the show great.
That's what makes you great. That's what nobody else on the planet can pull that off.

Speaker 5 If anybody else, if Tom Rinaldi sat down and tried to bring in a fake new host to the interview, like, that ain't flying. Like, you're the only person that could possibly do that.

Speaker 1 And it was, it was, I thought Ryan Day Hamlin a great, I thought Ryan Day looked good coming out of that piece. He did.

Speaker 7 And also, like, if that goes absolutely terrible, like, Pat's going to say, we're not going to run this thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't like getting, yeah, I'm a big let's not bury people guy. So if he didn't handle it well in my eyes, if I didn't think it looked good, we would have said, let's just end it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 As I say, it's over.

Speaker 5 I am surprised you haven't had the golf cart driver on the show yet. I thought we would have that by now.

Speaker 1 We had Will. Will's good.
Will was sitting right behind her. That was great.
Told the story.

Speaker 1 We got to the bottom of it, I think. She was also a menace on the field, which hasn't been.
We've only seen four seconds of her driving. Her worst moment.
Absolute worst.

Speaker 1 And I don't know how she didn't kill anybody on the field.

Speaker 1 That's any indication. I don't know how.
They probably got

Speaker 2 the way.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Move! She was saying hit the horn.

Speaker 1 That's never comfortable to be the people on that cart or in that escort while the people are acting that way, by the way. You always feel uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 Like, there was this George GBI, which I don't know what that is.

Speaker 1 Georgia Bureau of Investigation. I don't know.
Probably something like that. This guy had a fucking thing on.
He was like my security guy to get me back and forth. He was leading the way.

Speaker 1 Playing no games. None.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 I don't have time for that.

Speaker 5 Coach Day was, he took a neck shot or something there because he was walking a little. I didn't notice it until Will said it, but he was walking a little gingerly there.

Speaker 1 Whiplash. I just got whiplash.
All right, great. I'm a national champion now.
I got a whiplash. My neck kills.
All right, sweet. Gonna feel great.
It's gonna be sleeping like

Speaker 1 a baby tonight.

Speaker 1 Off right neck. What a time.
What a moment. It'll be remembered forever.
And lady, you're doing great. We appreciate your sense of urgency.

Speaker 1 Now, guys, she had an eye on that wall, though. Like, very clearly, she saw the wall.

Speaker 2 Death. She smiled through it.

Speaker 5 She smiled right through it.

Speaker 4 She thought she had respect for that.

Speaker 1 How about whenever she was going to back it up? All those dudes. Look at this.
All those dudes are still sitting on it. Still sitting on it.
Hold on, hold on. Let me go ahead and lift up and pull.

Speaker 1 She starts, she'll start to pull. All those people are on there.
She's a thousand pounds, probably on there. Let me go ahead and pull this thing out.

Speaker 5 That is absolutely total, man.

Speaker 3 That axle is gone. The wheels, everything is just

Speaker 1 whatever they're going to auction that thing off. By the way, hold on even more.
They should autograph it and auction it off. Will Howard laughing through it all.
Yeah. This guy's a guy.
He is.

Speaker 1 Will Howard's a guy, I think. That's my biggest takeaway.
I think he's a guy. He came on the show, was good on the show as well.

Speaker 1 I think he's going to be a real deal on Sundays, I think, personally.

Speaker 5 I thought that he.

Speaker 5 Obviously, I haven't watched every single house take him in the season, but the way he handled himself in that game and the way he just stepped up to the plate time and time again,

Speaker 5 very guy-like, I will say.

Speaker 1 How about third and 11, brother, to win it? Deep shot to Jeremiah. I mean, that's

Speaker 5 unfortunate situation to leave the DB one-on-one there with that for the game on the line.

Speaker 3 That's tough.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Christian Gray, tough spot. They thought it was going to be a run.
They went heavy, though. He said he went heavy with all goes.

Speaker 1 So I assume Notre Dame thought they were going to run one more time, kind of kill our last timeout, and then try to play the field position game with Maguire punting it.

Speaker 1 But instead, I love that Ryan Day, Chip Kelly, Will Howard, biggest moment, biggest decision. What do you do? Unload the clip.
Let's go win it.

Speaker 1 Just like whenever we saw Aaron Glenn for the NFC, number one overall seed, he brought pressure more than any other team the entire season. It's like in the biggest moment, what are you? You scared?

Speaker 1 Are you going to go? Be who you say you are. They win.
I like Will Howard a lot.

Speaker 5 AJ, are you pissed that everybody keeps saying like the $20 million thing, like no other team in the league has a $20 million?

Speaker 5 Like, I don't know why you guys seem to get pigeonholed. I keep seeing everybody saying, oh, well, yeah, that's what happens when you spend $20 20 million on your team.

Speaker 5 I'm like, what do you think other teams are doing?

Speaker 5 Everybody has that money. Some reason, you guys became the base of having an expensive team.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I don't know why. I mean, I think now it's kind of coming around.

Speaker 4 People that actually pay attention will see like people coming back and letting you know, hey, yeah, like there's other teams that have actually spent more money than Ohio State did.

Speaker 4 And so, yeah, you know, I mean.

Speaker 1 The reason why is because the season started with that narrative. I was a part of it.
I mean, I was a big part of it. I'm like, hey, Ohio State's going all in.
They spent 20 million on a roster.

Speaker 1 They brought this thing. And it's all because of Michigan, what Michigan just did, like, this is a make or break year for Ohio State.
They're going all in. And it was like openly known somehow.

Speaker 1 I don't, I don't know how we got the information, but it was like openly known. And I'm not saying we broke the news.
Other people broke the news.

Speaker 1 I learned of the news and we're like, yeah, this is even more of an implication that this team's going all in. So I thought it was a vital story to be a part of.
I wasn't the only one.

Speaker 1 Everybody's talking about it. But then as the season goes on, we talk about this a lot.
The convo was Ohio State spending, Ohio State spending.

Speaker 1 A lot of these other schools are like, yeah, Ohio State spending. Ohio State.
That was like kind of the story of the year because there's big checks coming from a lot of big places.

Speaker 1 And a lot of them have

Speaker 1 four seasons. A lot of them have inclement weather.

Speaker 1 A lot of them have a lot of wealthy alumni.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I think there's a real

Speaker 1 conversation going. Caleb Dons, best player.
In the SEC as a true freshman last year. All American.
Right? True freshman last year. Where does he go? North.

Speaker 1 Quinchon Junkins, best running back in the SEC. Where does he go?

Speaker 1 North. It's like, there's a chance that the North does have a little bit more in the bank when it comes to alumni than the South.
How's that going to work out going forward?

Speaker 1 Are they going to get guardrails on this entire thing so that at least there's some comps in some rules?

Speaker 1 It's like we're in an interesting time right now, but like Penn States of the world, who have a lot of rich alumni who would like to see their football team play well, in a great spot. SMU even.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. SMU has a lot of big money people around them and alumni.
They're in a great spot.

Speaker 1 But I feel like a lot of the schools that have a lot of money around them are now like being enticed to be like, hey, you want some tickets? Yeah, just give us 5 million. We'll pick up three players.

Speaker 1 Yep, boom. Like that's starting to happen now.
Like real deal. But Ohio State was the ones that were being talked about as like the only group that was doing it.

Speaker 4 But the annoying thing was, and Kirk.

Speaker 4 Kirk and Dez got into it, but it was more about, even I knew at the moment, a lot of it was bringing, retaining your roster. A A lot of these seniors, a lot of these older guys came back.

Speaker 4 Yeah, of course they got some studs, but the majority of the money, I think, was spent in keeping the guys that were already there.

Speaker 1 Well, I think that's a big part of everybody's, you know?

Speaker 1 Like to Alabama.

Speaker 5 That's the thing I'm interested in now because these two teams just played way deep into after the portal's been open. What's going to happen now after this game? How does that all work?

Speaker 5 That's part of the reason I said I think that the Rose Ball on January 1st should be the national championship is because you got to end this thing earlier so that all this other stuff doesn't keep floating into the different parts of the year.

Speaker 5 Like the NIL, the transfers, all of it. I just, I feel like, I feel like ending this earlier just makes more sense.

Speaker 1 You got a lot of games, bro. Too many games.
It's a lot of games. It's on schedule now.
It is. It's a lot.
They also got school.

Speaker 1 You know, well, they at least have to act like they're doing the school. Like all of them have to act like they're doing the school throughout the entirety of it.
It's a lot.

Speaker 1 This season, this college football playoff was long. It felt like an NBA playoff, where like when the NBA playoffs start, like in a lot of people's eyes, those are the only teams in a league.

Speaker 1 You know, yeah, like, those are the only teams you're going to see. This college football season, it feels like college football playoff is so long.

Speaker 1 Like, only the teams that played in the playoffs are going to be talked about in the offseason. Like, if you didn't make it to the playoff, it's like that's like two, three months ago.
Like,

Speaker 1 so long ago, you haven't even played football.

Speaker 1 Even the first round of the NBA, people don't even start watching until like the second round sometimes because there's so many blowouts in the first round of the NBA, just like the college football playoffs.

Speaker 1 It used to only be five games, remember?

Speaker 1 Yeah, now starting starting with 12. Count down to one.
Tell you, crowd.

Speaker 1 The CFP national

Speaker 1 champion. Champion.

Speaker 1 You heard it.

Speaker 1 All right. Good luck to your burn link.
We'll be back on the other side with Debutch and AQ Shipley with some film breakdown. Jake, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, you got to shoot it, I think. You know, you got to throw the heart.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 all right, all right, sweet, sweet, sweet. All right, we appreciate you, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 1 Owner of Burnley, who's got a big one against the Plymouth Argylls, yeah, coming up in about uh 30 minutes or so, ladies and gentlemen. JJ Watts.

Speaker 1 All right, let's take a break. We got some film, we got some accolades,

Speaker 1 we got some ball to learn on the other side, and then we'll wrap this thing up on a glorious Wednesday. Russell Wilson, first hour, JJ Watts, second hour.
Holy shit.

Speaker 1 People say, wow, a lot of high horse today. Yeah.
I say, uh-uh. Genuine quality ball talk.
Hell yeah. With a couple of the lads.

Speaker 1 I think we fought off some narratives today. I think so.
For us.

Speaker 2 No chance.

Speaker 2 No chance.

Speaker 2 I think he's one of those people where you either love him or you hate him.

Speaker 1 Shit, my pants.

Speaker 1 This last like six minutes has been. don't use the bathroom in the back.
No, yeah, I know, I know. Well, it came out of nowhere this morning, too.
You said it did.

Speaker 1 Your face right there. I said, I think we beat some narratives, you know, and Ty,

Speaker 1 just like a full fear settled. Why don't you go to the bathroom? Okay.
We'll be back on the other side. Got a lot of watching.
Can we watch him shuffle off?

Speaker 4 Can we see him shuffle away?

Speaker 1 I can't hear you. I'm going to shuffle fans.
I'm not listening. Ty,

Speaker 1 Ty, shit, shuffle, Schmidt. Oh, he's trapped up.
He's trapped up. Come on.

Speaker 1 Oh, look at that. Whole body Dio is getting sprayed.
Smart. Boys, that's smart.
He's got sweats on. They're lighting color.
Gonna want to make sure you get to the toilet.

Speaker 1 Football. He's wonderful.
That's AJ Hawk. He just won a national championship.
Let's go, Mark.

Speaker 1 Hell yeah, Mark. For you, the cockpit was here.
I'm Paul Sacconer and that's Ty Schmidt. Nine-year NFL vet and F1 super fan, Darius Jambullers.
Baby TeBot. Congratulations, clapping for that.

Speaker 1 Hey, uh...

Speaker 2 Fuck you too, man.

Speaker 1 Whoa. Whoa, F1 Super Fan.
Absolutely shit. It's a new day.

Speaker 2 Lewis Hamilton.

Speaker 1 Yes, it is.

Speaker 1 F1, are we in the middle of the season?

Speaker 2 No, no, no, no. It doesn't start until March.

Speaker 1 Anybody watched the TGL last night? You're a big golf fan.

Speaker 2 I watched a little bit of it, actually.

Speaker 1 Did you on the internet or on TV? On TV.

Speaker 2 I had it on. I was actually working on my swing, crafting, at X-Golf, and it was on the TV.

Speaker 1 Okay, and Foxy, Detroit Lions fan,

Speaker 1 golf super enthusiast. Did you watch TGL last night?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I watched it. The Atlanta Drive kicked the hell out of the New York Golf Club.
Once again, it was another snooze fest, four to zero.

Speaker 7 They got a lot to work on over there. I'll just say it that way.

Speaker 1 Be excited to see what the numbers are. You know, debut night obviously does its thing.
Tiger playing does its thing. Now it's week three.
Saw Billy Ho coming in doing a dirty bird. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 He's a goofball.

Speaker 1 What? He is an absolute goofball. Billy Ho missed out on a massive Saudi Arabia check when everybody else was taking it.
And now he's hoping to cash in, hopefully, for TGL.

Speaker 1 And as a blue-collar guy, we hope Billy Ho gets an opportunity to do that. So I like to see him showcasing a little personality and pizzazz out there.
I didn't get to see any of it.

Speaker 1 I obviously DVR'd it. And I will certainly catch up.
But they used you, the Atlanta Drive, they used you in the video saying all of these have been blowouts.

Speaker 1 And the Atlanta Drive said, and we plan on keeping it that way. And they lived up to their

Speaker 1 100%.

Speaker 7 They kicked ass from beginning to end.

Speaker 7 The Falcons owner, he owns that team.

Speaker 1 And then the Mets owner, yes, he owns the New York Golf Club, too.

Speaker 7 A lot of celebrities in the stands. So, yeah, it's quite the spectacle.

Speaker 1 So a lot of influence. You know, a lot of influential people.
So obviously they're calling their friends to watch TGL and everything like that. Ty, you are now one of the talking heads of TGL.

Speaker 1 You've been used in a social media video.

Speaker 1 Are you going to pay attention, really keep track of everything going on over there in the TGL?

Speaker 1 You know, it's interesting that they decided, because I didn't think for a second to watch that last night. What? Tuesday.
Yeah, you know, I didn't know what was happening.

Speaker 1 Tuesday.

Speaker 1 Patrick Cantlay doesn't really strike me as a hey, this guy's got a big personality. I want to hear what this guy has to say in sweet shots.
Maybe.

Speaker 1 I gave it a chance the first two weeks. I did.
I did. I tried.

Speaker 1 Tigers team went out there. They got the absolute shit from Donovan.
All right. I'll maybe check it out when Rory is

Speaker 1 next Monday. Boston Common Golf Club.
Yeah, sure. I also don't get that.
I mean, what connection does Rory have to fucking Boston? I mean, it's like like they were. He's Irish.

Speaker 1 So what? Northern Ireland. So what?

Speaker 1 I was going to say. Oh, he's Northern Ireland? Yeah, he's from Northern Ireland, and I think they are more British than anything else.
There's a big discrepancy there. Yeah, two different Irelands.

Speaker 1 They're like, big, big, big deal. Exactly.
So,

Speaker 1 I don't understand. It's a Protestant Catholic situation.
It's just...

Speaker 1 It's the same goddamn thing every week.

Speaker 7 So, and one thing that's happening is they're getting slower. Week one, it was bang, bang, bang.

Speaker 1 You know why?

Speaker 7 It was so fast.

Speaker 1 Patrick Cantlay. Yeah, they are much slower now.
What do you mean? He's the king of playing slow.

Speaker 1 Remember, Brooks was like, hey, I'm going to beat the fucking shit out of this guy if he doesn't, you know, move it along a little bit. Okay, I'm going to put some pressure on this asshole.

Speaker 1 Everyone on tour hates him because he plays so fucking slow. No, he's probably a good guy, but you're talking about his style.
I didn't think it was possible to play slow at the TGL.

Speaker 1 We didn't watch, if you could please inform.

Speaker 1 AQs are slow. Yeah, no, just the pace.

Speaker 1 Here's A.Q. Shipley, 12-year-old NFL vet.
Also a golf enthusiast. He's a member of

Speaker 1 a cult out in Arizona that runs a golf tournament. yep yep and foxy and i were talking earlier they're changing rules

Speaker 1 right so any of the shots that were a hundred or i think it was like 125 and in previously they would go from the front tees but since tiger was air mailing the last couple weeks apparently was throwing off everybody's depth perception so now 125 to like 50 yards is going to be at the front tee

Speaker 1 I'm sorry, the back T. And then 40 yards and in is in the front T now.
Get better depth perception. Or just changing rules week four.
That's actually dope. That might save the whole thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's a

Speaker 1 revolutionary. Because now we're going to start seeing like from 120 chip-ins.

Speaker 1 See? Yeah. That's what we've been waiting for.

Speaker 4 It feels revolutionary. I haven't really seen much to understand what AQ is talking about.

Speaker 5 Sounds like an absolute groundbreaking joke.

Speaker 1 That's a game changer.

Speaker 1 That's huge. I didn't realize that.
I heard. Yeah.
Huge.

Speaker 1 I will go back and week it. Next week.
Next week.

Speaker 1 Tuesday's coming around. Tuesday's going to be here before we know it.
I know. Thank you.
I can't wait. Okay, so let's watch this.
Front T, back T, a little bit different. Big difference.

Speaker 1 Because they couldn't. That perception was.
It changes everything. Yeah, truly.
I think we were told, I might be mistaken, you guys had conversations with these people more than I did, actually.

Speaker 1 TG always invited us to go down whenever we wanted.

Speaker 1 Anytime we want, we took the whole facility to ourselves. Who was that through? Who was that from? Do we remember who we would owe if we're going to be? Vino was the league.
Who we were talking to.

Speaker 1 So Vino owns the league. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Okay, Vino dog, genius,

Speaker 1 hard worker, juice guy. I've never seen a juice.
Yeah, Gina, he gets the money.

Speaker 7 Vino gets the money. So once I heard Vino is a part of it, I saw all the slabs in there.
I'm like, okay, I'm connecting some dots here.

Speaker 1 Yeah, now we know who's kind of doing that particular aspect. The only issue is he's not running probably the broadcast.
I don't think so. And they need to fix it.
No, it's a guy from NBC.

Speaker 1 Remember, we looked this up. Oh, yeah.
It's at Tomorrow Studios. The guy who grew golf.
Bingo.

Speaker 1 What years?

Speaker 1 The most important one. It's funny you mentioned that.
No,

Speaker 1 sometimes you're in the right place at the right time. What? And you get a guy like Tiger to come along, and

Speaker 1 you kind of change the face of golf. And ratings go through the roof.
Exactly. And guess whose shoulders that's on?

Speaker 1 That guy's.

Speaker 1 You're right. His resume, you mean.
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 Certainly on his resume.

Speaker 1 I'm bummed out that I had zero.

Speaker 1 When I thought about turning it on, it was over. Because it was on at seven or something.
Seven, yep. And then it had been on later before, right?

Speaker 7 Uh, yes, it has been at

Speaker 7 nine o'clock was the first one.

Speaker 1 So that's the so like, I think it was like 8:50 maybe. And I was like, oh, TGL.
It was already off. There was college basketball game on.
Yeah. And then I saw some of the clips.

Speaker 1 I saw a Billy Hall entrance. Yep.
Awesome. And that was

Speaker 1 so cool. Everything doesn't need to be.
Horseshoe. Oh, it was.
It was sweet. It was Horschel.
Yeah. Billy Hall.
Billy Hoe. Billy Ho.
Yeah. Billy Hall.

Speaker 7 Billy Hall. Entrances got to go.

Speaker 1 We're fucking.

Speaker 1 That was the best part of the whole fuck. They all got a bunch of it.
That was the only clip that I saw. That was the only good part of last night.
I said. Dirty Burke.

Speaker 1 I gotta say. That was a sweet entrance.
That was fucking awful. Wait, one second.

Speaker 4 I thought he was gonna take his shirt off with the flip.

Speaker 1 He could have. He's jacked.
I've seen him on boat. Remember.

Speaker 1 That's

Speaker 1 chicken.

Speaker 1 I said, okay, after that, you think fucking Atlanta GC is going to lose? No. Game over.

Speaker 2 Yo, you golf fans, so hard to please. You want to see more of these guys' personalities, and they show it.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, don't show us anymore.

Speaker 7 I don't want to see their personalities. I want to watch them play golf.

Speaker 1 That's all I care about. Well, it's hard to watch whenever it's this cold and there isn't a season going on.
So they're hitting into a big sim. Then they zoom in on the sim.

Speaker 1 Feels like I'm watching a video game. Then we're in real life.
Then I don't know who's doing what. I don't know what the rules are.
How are we getting points? We got a front team. We got a back team.

Speaker 1 I just learned that. I've watched two episodes.
I did not know that was happening still. Hey, you know, they can raise the lip too on the bunker shots? Yeah, they have to.
Yeah, it's super mechanical.

Speaker 1 They should have waited. They should have waited until Azure Football was done because then we'd be like, Man, we need something to watch.
Especially on Tuesday night.

Speaker 1 Like, if they waited after the Super Bowl, we'd be like, you know what? This is kind of cool. No, they're getting all the

Speaker 1 figuring it out right now. Yeah, but that's kind of.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they are. I want it to be good.
Don't you guys want it to be good?

Speaker 1 I really want it. I think it can be good.

Speaker 7 I think that's the biggest thing.

Speaker 1 There's just a couple things they got. All the stars are in there.
It's not all the stars. We could still get Brooks in there if we want.
He's Brooks in us? No. No.
This is a PGA operation. Correct.

Speaker 1 Okay, so all the stars are the PGA. No, Scotty.
No, Bryson. What is Scotty supposed to be?

Speaker 1 The PGA tour is also happening right now, so it's probably a tough sell. Phil, Bryson,

Speaker 1 and everybody else, they're on different. We had already,

Speaker 1 we said this is not the live golf. This is PGA.
So if we want to run through the live roster, we can do that right now. John Romp.
Dustin Johnson's not in this either.

Speaker 1 Do we want to go through the entire...

Speaker 1 Young, the one young, the putty.

Speaker 1 Com Young is not in it. So these are all people that are not in this.
Let them in. Let them in.
What are we doing? We agree. We agree.
But I think PGA is a part of this entire thing.

Speaker 1 Has all the stars. Yes.
Has the tech. Has the building.
It's in there. They'll find it.
Yeah, when it gets good, let me know.

Speaker 7 Matt Berry needs help. He's on an island the whole time, and he's doing a fantastic job.
He needs more, though. He can't just run the show the whole time.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I do love him saying every single time on every single shot, no matter what.
How's your heart rate? How are you feeling on that one? Do they have whoops on it or no? No, no.

Speaker 1 It's just like, okay. I don't think these guys are that nervous.
All right. Well, Kiz was.
He bladed that. Kiz was boozed up.
I don't know if he's nervous. That's a difference.

Speaker 1 I think he might have been boozed up. What did that guy shoot this weekend?

Speaker 1 Quantrue. Quintruletto.

Speaker 1 Quintruplet boat.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. That guy.
Went from 600 to plus two. That poor guy.
I mean, it did look difficult to shoot. That hole was stupid.
That bunker? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Golf is so awesome. That's why we hope TGL is good.

Speaker 1 He'll figure it out. How many more weeks of it are there? What? Not enough.
I don't know. That's the answer.

Speaker 1 No, because that's what I was like, I really think there are only like five or six weeks left. Is there a playoffs? Are they playoffs? Oh, yeah.
Yeah, there is playoffs. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 How do they keep score? I don't fucking know.

Speaker 1 I thought the one team lost like four different times and no points changed on the scoreboard. So I'm like, that's my issue, too.
Did they throw the hammer down?

Speaker 1 No, they weren't throwing the hammer down at all last night, which is bullshit. And I know Titans pissed about

Speaker 1 double points. Double points for the hammer.
Hammer down holes are fucking nuts. Hammer down sounds so cool, too.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 sounds so cool we need to watch it

Speaker 1 we haven't even watched it i watched the first two weeks in in the entirety i had it on tv last night

Speaker 1 you're playing video games i was watching american prime evil or primeval prime evil primeval i don't know how to pronounce peter berg peter berg jim urce peter berg number one on netflix for a few different days congrats to them i've heard that's a great

Speaker 1 it's pretty good yeah i like it a lot those throwback ones seemingly doing really well in our era right now Society would like to watch the crazy shit that happened before. More killing.

Speaker 1 We got some crazy shit happening now. We'd like to see what happened back then as well.

Speaker 2 I had no idea about Brigham Young.

Speaker 1 What's that? Learned about him. What'd you learn? Just learned about him.
That's how he operated. On American Prime Evil? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 He was very defensive over Utah. Bit of a gangster.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 In some ways.

Speaker 1 Well, you guys said we got the gold boards, the gold plates out of upstate New York. John Smith.
This place is ours now.

Speaker 2 Let's just say not every religion is founded on squeaky, clean values.

Speaker 1 You could say none of them. No.
Could say. There's a few.

Speaker 1 There's a few out there. Buddhism.
Are there? Super squeaky clean.

Speaker 1 How about these monks? I see these monks walking up these cliffs. They're squeaky.
That was pretty cool. Did you see that? Oh, yeah.
Just straight. He had a different trail.

Speaker 1 It feels like they should have maybe went with the trail he was going on. You know,

Speaker 1 they had the ropes right over here, and then there's a monk just walking up over here.

Speaker 1 I didn't see this. Strong either.

Speaker 4 Strong. I didn't see it either.

Speaker 1 It was unbelievable. He had his chi right.
Really?

Speaker 1 He did have his chi right. Always.

Speaker 1 he's wearing like a a dress his monk thing yeah yeah what are those i don't know look like just a normal hill to walk up to i think so too yeah that's yeah like that's uh i don't know we got ropes

Speaker 1 we got ropes

Speaker 1 not making it up this one and then oh boy

Speaker 1 it is jay leno's not yeah that might have been hill or jell

Speaker 1 that could be pittsburgh yeah it could be the jay leno in between the best western it's like one of those goats and those goats that walk up those mountains like sideways oh yeah

Speaker 1 well isn't that what we learned too from um the Middle East?

Speaker 1 They're able to sprint up and down these rocks that are just like at a different level.

Speaker 1 I'm a good hill guy, just like I'm a good crick guy.

Speaker 1 Skip Stones. Did you ever skip stones growing up in Ohio?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I still do as an adult. Yeah.

Speaker 1 How are you? How many skips do you think you're getting?

Speaker 4 I'm legit. Would that guy have like 42? Is that what he said?

Speaker 1 That was a championship record, world record. I think it's like 70-something or 80-something.
80-plus.

Speaker 4 I mean, if I had this guy's rock, if I had this nice, smoothed-out, grinded-down rock, I could get up there. Well, that's part of the process.

Speaker 1 got a it's like a he's like a pitcher he's like a rubber he's pushing off too so he's got power yeah this is just championship throw for kurt steiner this is not his best throw that then he's been this is just when the the lights were the brightest when the water was the smoothest we have some breaking news ladies and gentlemen trent balki has been fired as the Jacksonville Jaguars general manager.

Speaker 1 If you do recall, Shahid Khan, also known as Shad Khan, the owner of the Jacksonville Jaguars, was on a Zoom press conference with Trent Balki. They were the only two on the screen.

Speaker 1 And the media asked, if the new coach comes in and wants a new general manager, will you adhed to that? And he said, absolutely. And Balki just had to sit there and say, well, I guess I could be gone.

Speaker 1 And that is certainly the case now. Baukey out.
Is that because of a head coach coming in and saying, I like this particular general manager. This is how I want to go.

Speaker 1 Or is this potentially Shad Khan realizing? that maybe nobody wants to coach for his team because he's keeping Balky, who's been around like 10 different times and has always survived bad situations.

Speaker 1 Shad Khan says, following several discussions with Trent Balky this week, we both arrived at the conclusion that this is in our best, mutual best interest, respectfully separate, effective, immediately.

Speaker 1 Turned off his fob.

Speaker 1 Trent leaves us with my deepest appreciation for his efforts over the past five seasons.

Speaker 1 Ethan Wan will serve as interim general manager and play an important role with others as we continue the process, the interviewing candidates to serve as our new head coach.

Speaker 1 I am deeply committed to building a winner here in Jacksonville and look forward to introducing a new head coach who will make that happen for our players and fans alike.

Speaker 1 A lot of people are going to immediately say to Sean, you could have fired this guy weeks ago. Bango.
Could have fired this guy weeks ago.

Speaker 1 Could have already been in the process of interviewing new general managers, maybe, you know. But I think Sean probably had a comfort with.
Balky, obviously. That's why he stuck with him.

Speaker 1 And maybe he wanted his insight for the hire. As soon as he said, though, on that Zoom call, that, yeah, I'll fire this guy if somebody wants somebody.
That felt like that was the writing on the wall.

Speaker 1 It now takes place. What happens next for Jacksonville? We shall shall see, AJ.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, I would imagine that they have their head coach in the sites.

Speaker 4 Like, they're about to hire their head coach, and he either didn't like Balky or had his own ideas of who should be the GM, I'm thinking.

Speaker 4 But, yeah, like, this does feel like it should have happened a month ago.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I think Jacksonville Jaguars fans are going to be okay with this.

Speaker 1 I think so. I don't think they're going to be tore up, D-Bud.

Speaker 2 He's had some solid picks, but yeah, with two

Speaker 2 offensive-minded head coaches, because wasn't it rumored that Liam Cohen was going to be be offered this job? So maybe he was like, nah, not going to go to this.

Speaker 2 So you put that either or Trevor Lawrence, the quarterback, don't want to work with him or don't want to work with the GM. Then obviously Ben Johnson choosing to go to Chicago.

Speaker 2 So if two offensive playmakers saying, or play callers saying like, nah, that's not the destination for me, Shaw probably had to have that conversation, figure out, okay, maybe we get a new coach in a GM to come in same time.

Speaker 1 All eyes are on Coach Salah.

Speaker 1 Potentially go to Jacksonville now. I know he was interviewed at other jobs.
I think he was interviewed in Dallas.

Speaker 1 I think he's been in, I assume he's being interviewed in a lot of of places because of what the Jets became after he left and what the Jets was like whenever he had to deal with it.

Speaker 1 I think everybody outside of the Jets is like,

Speaker 1 do you really?

Speaker 1 Do you really have an opportunity there?

Speaker 1 Does he want to be a defense coordinator again, which I assume he will have the opportunity to be if he wanted to go to the San Francisco 49ers?

Speaker 1 But he's been interviewing a lot for these head coaching jobs, and it's like Jacksonville he has ties to.

Speaker 1 So Robert Sala, I assume if he has ties to Jacksonville and the Khan family likes him, if he wants to be their head coach and he doesn't want Bulky to necessarily be there, that could be a reason why they move on from bulky akush absolutely i read about 35 um

Speaker 1 tweets this morning that said as soon as liam cohen pulled out of the race it was basically like everything came out about trent bulky's the reason nobody wants to go there okay and that was the biggest thing that i kept reading which maybe they aren't saying that but that's an easy thing to kind of declare if you watch how it's all kind of going down and once again could have seen this coming i i think everybody in the football world kind of saw this one coming shot kahn had to see it for his his own eyes, we think.

Speaker 1 What do we expect there? Yeah, and maybe, you know, Joe Brady's still kind of out there as well. He's another offensive guy.

Speaker 1 The Bob Solid thing is kind of interesting because, you know, you go from one organization that has, you know, an owner and a kid that's a little involved.

Speaker 1 And then the Jags, you could argue, is almost the same situation with an owner and a kid who's a little involved. But I don't know.
Maybe

Speaker 1 he's an adult man.

Speaker 1 He's the chief football strategist for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Yeah,

Speaker 1 which I believe. He did.
He took a Tony Kahn driver, showed up to work the next day. Which, I mean, gritty, definitely.

Speaker 1 Again, I don't know how much that helps you win football games, but I do think that it's definitely something Sala would be familiar with. I don't know what Trevor Lawrence is thinking.

Speaker 1 Man, all these offensive-minded coaches don't want to coach for him. I think Trevor understands the situation down there in Jacksonville.
I think he knows.

Speaker 1 I think Trevor wants to be part of the solution. I think Sean Kahn wants to be a part of the solution.
I think Jacksonville Jaguars fans are yearning for a solution.

Speaker 1 And you move on from Trent Palki, I assume Jacksonville Jaguars fans say, okay, all right, here we go. You know, I think they're probably excited, AJ.
I think you're probably pumped out there.

Speaker 1 Do

Speaker 1 that's a cool champ it is. They got great mascot.
Yeah. He should be GM.

Speaker 4 If they offer to Robert Saul, he's definitely taking the gig. Like, you can't.
He doesn't know if he's ever going to get another head coaching opportunity. Like, you've got to take that.

Speaker 1 If they offer to. Joe Brady, maybe potentially.
If. If, if, if.
We don't know. Pete Carroll, if, if, if the Raiders offer him the job.

Speaker 4 Man, Pete would be interesting.

Speaker 4 If I was a, if I was a team trying to bring in a coach, especially a place like Jacksonville, I would definitely bring Pete in to kind of see how it feels with him there.

Speaker 1 And they've done something of the past.

Speaker 1 You know, Coughlin, obviously, he's vastly different than Pete, but they have had older, successful coach been around as a consultant and as a coach down there in Jacksonville.

Speaker 1 Pete Carroll, being a head coach, he's being linked to Las Vegas at the moment. Not that that's real.
People have been linked to places a lot of different times.

Speaker 1 And then obviously as offers change as situations change things can change it's a fluid situation but what we're being told and hearing out of las vegas is that tom brady's running this

Speaker 1 this isn't like uh tom brady's just flying a wall no this isn't like oh how does this go what we're being told is tom brady is the one asking questions tom brady is the one kind of conducting the interviews tom brady's the one that is kind of uh figuring out what's the right way what's wrong that's just from our source

Speaker 1 aj which i think is why mark davis wanted him in there so much. But once again, this is going to feed the narrative about this guy's actual owner.

Speaker 1 He's comments,

Speaker 1 what are we doing? It's like, it's Tom Brady. It's the greatest of all time.
We should like that he's back in the game, but I don't think a lot of us expected him to act as if he is owner of Raiders.

Speaker 1 We assume this is just going to be an investment type thing, go shake hands type thing. They're hiring now, and he's very active, is what we're being told, AJ Hawk.

Speaker 4 Well, if you're Mark Davis, why would you

Speaker 4 run through the whole process of bringing Tom in? We know you had to go through all this stuff, get it okayed and everything. Why would you do that if you didn't want Tom's input? I mean,

Speaker 4 the dude's paying to come in there and let you know his opinion on what's going on, I guess. So, yeah, of course.

Speaker 4 I want Tom in on the interviews if I'm a Raiders guy.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. And I guess I should have expected that, but I don't think that, I didn't think that's how the NFL ever goes.
Like, there's minority owners all over the place.

Speaker 1 People have a percentage of a team, percentage of a team, percentage of a team. Dave Tepper used to be one.
Haslam used to be one.

Speaker 1 Like, a lot of these guys go from being minority owners to teams teams to being, okay, now they know the business. They're in with the NFL.
They've shaken the hands. They can get approved.

Speaker 1 They can get the money. They can own a team.

Speaker 1 It's like, in this particular case, it's like Tom Brady, hard to get through because the value in which Mark Davis wanted to give it to Tom, which I think was a discount of value, a little hometown discount for Tom Brady to get in there, which, once again, we as players love.

Speaker 1 Give the greatest player of all time a little bit of, you know,

Speaker 1 relevancy in ownership matters and how the league is going to run. We like that.
We like that a lot. But I thought it was going to be, I didn't think Mark Davis would be like,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean, you only, you know,

Speaker 2 that's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to get the GOAT.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 2 You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 And I should have expected it. I guess we should have expected it to be this way, but like what we're being told is like, hey, welcome to my office.

Speaker 4 Well, we thought egos. Don't you think egos usually get in the way? Like, no, Tom can come in and be minority owner, but that's what he is.
He doesn't have any say in what we do.

Speaker 4 So I give him credit for actually listening to Tom's opinion.

Speaker 1 Think about the other minority owners of the Raiders going like, well, how come we don't

Speaker 1 fucking Tom Brady? Well, are you Tom Tom Brady?

Speaker 4 Yeah. What's your name?

Speaker 1 Well, that person has to have enough money to be a percentage owner of an NFL. So I assume their ego is very large.
Oh, so I throw touchdowns.

Speaker 1 Okay, I only started a company that fucking saved 10,000 people's lives.

Speaker 1 You know, like the egos at that level with that amount of money, because everybody you would think is successful or comes from a family that is very successful.

Speaker 1 Those people obviously haven't proved anything, so I'm not saying that. But like Tom Brady running, I think it's a good thing for the Raiders, not a bad thing.

Speaker 1 I think this is a good thing for the Raiders, not bad at all.

Speaker 1 I think it's a great great thing because if you if you have a guy that has won everywhere that he's been literally that was the whole narrative when he went to tampa can he do it without bill he does it without bill he has seen the way it's supposed to be run he has been in an organization where they had players that won it and what it takes to win it and so why would you not why would you not listen to this guy he understands everything about winning and that's why he was calling lombo Yeah, Bill potentially

Speaker 1 saying, hey, this is my first time really. It's my first owner cycle here.
We got to hire a lot. What should I be asking? What should I not be asking? He's very well researched.
Everybody knows that.

Speaker 1 I think they're going to get it right, maybe. No, I'm a quarterback, but they're going to maybe get it right over there.

Speaker 2 Obviously, huge. You talk about ego.
Shit. Mark Davis, you want to win.

Speaker 1 You know, Al Davis, like, they won.

Speaker 2 You know, just win, baby. They won Super Bowls.
They won it. Like,

Speaker 2 that is. who made that iconic.
Like, that's an iconic brand worldwide. So if you're Mark Davis, you want to win and kind of take your own era.

Speaker 2 So I can see him definitely stepping back and let Tom run the show.

Speaker 1 Imagine the people interviewing walking in. Mark Davis sitting down, Tom's sitting down.

Speaker 1 Who do I say hi to first?

Speaker 1 The guy with all the money. Mr.
Davis, good to see you. And Mark goes, talking to him, buddy.
Yeah. I'm out of here.
All right, Coach, Mr. Brady.
Just here for fun. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Sitting in the corner playing Game Boy during the interviews. No, he's taking notes.
I doubt it. Tom, how do I beat this guy?

Speaker 1 You guys got that one. Nah, we don't want to out it.
No. We don't want to out it.
We don't want to be a part of that.

Speaker 1 There is a gaming console out there that has stolen everything from every other company and is in your hands. Correct.
And it's the GOAT.

Speaker 1 It's popped up in my algo. It is the GOAT.
I can't believe they're still getting away with it.

Speaker 4 I thought it was a Game Boy when I saw it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it is Game Boy. It looks exactly like a Game Boy.

Speaker 1 But it is.

Speaker 2 Switch, Game Boy.

Speaker 1 There's no way they're paying royalties for all the games that they have. No.
No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 Straight off the black market. There's like a thousand games in this thing, right? In movies? 21,000.
Yeah, bump that up. 20,000.

Speaker 1 But basically, got every game from every console ever in the

Speaker 1 $1,000? How much did that cost? That's $150,000. $110, maybe? That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 I don't like that we're even talking about it right now because there's no way that this thing is supposed to exist. Worth every penny.

Speaker 1 But it's like showing they got ads for these things, and it's like, look at this. We've taken everybody's shit.
Great back. You can have it now for the rest of time.

Speaker 1 They got movies in there too, right? In there, like some movie stuff. Who makes it?

Speaker 1 No movies. We will not reveal who makes it.

Speaker 1 But there are enough games in there to last you a lifetime. Yeah.
Is this black market? Like type stuff? No, it's being marketed. It's like it's in Best Buy or something.
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 It's like an Instagram, man. You can buy it on Amazon.
I think it comes from the makers of TikTok. Pretty close.
I don't know anything about that. Me neither.
You do. But

Speaker 1 sounds like you might.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I know that you do. So do you.
No, I don't. Yeah, you do.
I did not who made it.

Speaker 1 I asked you what it was, and it's not Putin, I don't think, I asked you, I asked you, well, we're discomforted when you guys both said, she knee, Xi Jinping. That's what you guys said.

Speaker 1 No, we do not know how it got here. It didn't come in a red flag communist box.
I know that, and that's kind of the dead giveaway you do. So I assume it was a United States make.

Speaker 1 I assume this gave jobs to American workers. Oh, is that right? I assume whoever did create this thing had the idea, like, is he going to spread freedom and justice.

Speaker 1 It is a lot of joy, I will say, to whoever made this, maybe in China. No, again, I don't think this is a Shanghai province type situation.
I think this is a very... Are you guys sure of that?

Speaker 1 It sounds like you guys. Not sure.
I'm not positive, but I'm not leaning on that. Yeah, I wouldn't.
I mean, I'm not going to be sinking a bunch of hours into some Chinese gaming device. This is crazy.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 1 I'm not grabbing this thing saying Nihao Wah, okay? I'm grabbing this thing saying, thank you, America. Country of origin for this thing? China.

Speaker 1 That's that's not the one i bought okay i was gonna say let me see

Speaker 1 mine got 256 gigs mine's 128. boom

Speaker 1 amen scroll up

Speaker 1 that's not the one i have

Speaker 4 if you get on amazon you should be okay it has 30 000 games

Speaker 1 the um

Speaker 1 walking onto the plane And you both just having your head down on this thing. Boy, fucking crazy.
And I was like,

Speaker 1 what is this thing? Game Boy? They're like

Speaker 1 on super steroids, brother.

Speaker 1 And then you, I think, said 20,000 games on this thing. I was like, what games? Crap games? All of them.

Speaker 1 What games? All the games. Everyone.
Play Top Gun. I was like, how is this thing even created? How's this thing even created? We don't care.
I hit a link. I bought it and I got it forever.

Speaker 1 And it had a good battery life, too. You guys played it the whole flight.
Yeah, I mean, I forgot to charge it, actually, for this upcoming trip to Atlanta.

Speaker 1 8% lasted me two days. What's going on with these things?

Speaker 1 Look, it's powerful. What's crazy? They thought TikTok was disappearing and then these things showed up.
Hmm. This has no connection to the internet, so this is just, hey, you want to have some fun?

Speaker 1 It has no connection to the internet? No.

Speaker 4 It all comes all pre-loaded, all that?

Speaker 1 Old school spyware, huh? What is the old school spy? They'll have to come pick it up at some point. There's a card in there.

Speaker 2 Hey, that's some shit before the internet.

Speaker 1 Certainly did. I mean, look, I've taken this through customs, so I know it's good.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, I'm happy you guys found something that makes you happy, no matter where it's from.

Speaker 1 Oh, if I find out where, if it's from where we were talking about, I'll fucking destroy that thing this afternoon.

Speaker 1 It is from there. No way.
I'm under the impression mine was made in Sweden.

Speaker 1 So.

Speaker 1 Under the impression.

Speaker 4 You're under the impression.

Speaker 1 So. That's your truth? That's my truth.
Until I hear otherwise.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 he thinks it's America.

Speaker 1 Well, mine only has 15,000 games. This has 20,000.
That screams Sweden. So, I mean, that would make more sense.
Got a Swedish gaming device. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 I'm happy you guys found that. International gaming device.
Exactly right. International gaming device.
Universal. A lot of happiness has been brought through that.

Speaker 1 Speaking of happiness, let's get better at ball. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for two segments that make us all better every single week.

Speaker 1 And we're thankful for there's only a couple weeks left of this. Yeah.
So we've got to enjoy every single play that is highlighted or maybe even lowlight that is brought to attention. It is time for

Speaker 1 OG in the trenches

Speaker 1 with thank you, Shipley.

Speaker 1 Here we go, boys. Juish, what are we doing? We're going in the trenches of the divisional round.
We are, and let's take a look at this. And this is why I love this, right? It's third and four.

Speaker 1 You guys see that in the bottom right? Third and four. So they go overload because they think this is going to be a pass.
This is one of the best calls versus pass. We got two linebackers up.

Speaker 1 Let's just watch Makai back to number 77. Throw him.
Boom. Throw his ass on the ground.
See you later. Okay, Makai back in 6'7.
I believe he's 350 or something. 360.
That's right.

Speaker 1 Supposed to be a tackle. They move him into guard.
This is a Stoutland University type move.

Speaker 1 This is, no this is just being an absolute unit this is 6'7 350 and just using your absolute strength the one thing i love about this if we go first of all makai beckton was a throwaway from another team and he comes to stoutland you and becomes a dog but this is what we have become used to seeing let's watch lane johnson right now hand up Gone.

Speaker 1 He knows it every time. He does it every single time when there's still people able to make a tackle.
He just knows as soon as it's through the first part, Saquon's gone.

Speaker 1 So Tooney goes from guard body type to to tackle for the Kansas City Chiefs. Mackay goes from tackle body type to guard.
Which one's harder there?

Speaker 1 Because I feel like on the inside, you got to be lower. Isn't that kind of the lower thing? And Mackay has played guard fantastically at 60.
He's got to be the biggest guard in the NFL.

Speaker 1 Got to be by far. Him and File Ale, right? They both are tackles, move inside, and both have ended up being really good guards.
It's a lot harder going guard to tackle.

Speaker 1 At the end of the day, Tooney has 31-inch arms, and he's going out there and going against Will Anderson. I mean, he was just getting pressed the whole game.

Speaker 1 I feel bad for him out there because he doesn't deserve to be out there. He's so good inside.
But when you have the length and you have the size, you can get away with a lot of shit playing guard.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it's a little bit more gritty and grimy on the inside, right?

Speaker 1 Absolutely.

Speaker 2 Then they move 20 back this week.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 No, they got to stick with the continuity at this point. You just got to roll.
This is the group that's together. I can't wait to see our Kansas Chiefs offensive line, huh?

Speaker 1 Yeah, they didn't make it because they don't have any highlights on there. Let's just be real.
Let's just be real. But you know who does have a highlight? Landon Dickerson.
Whoa, another one.

Speaker 1 And this is going back to last year.

Speaker 1 We haven't shown many of these this year the old guy loops out target locked go get some ribs here we go let's watch landon dickerson come across help saquan boom throw his ass on the ground geez almost takes out saquon yeah

Speaker 1 what's he doing he's looking for work yeah i like that you're looking for work especially on the gritty philadelphia team but watch saquon though pump fake how you go boom

Speaker 1 saquon appreciates that i know he got his leg a little bit there at the end but he appreciates that

Speaker 1 take this guy out of here we got next here a queuesh we got the commanders we got the g scheme first of all Cliff Kingsbury calling unbelievable games. He's fearless.
He's aggressive. Awesome.

Speaker 1 It sucks that they lost Sam Cosme. They're going to run, pull both guards here.
First guy, kick out. Second guy underneath.
Let's watch him throw him out the club. See you later.
Chase.

Speaker 1 Don't want any partner. Sam Cosme T's and P's.
Torn ACL sucks.

Speaker 1 That's Hughes.

Speaker 1 That's a big deal. That's the guy that circled right there.
Yeah, first round pick, I think. Maybe first or second-round pick out of Texas a couple years ago.
He's become a very good guard.

Speaker 1 That's a big loss for them. Cliff Kingsbury, not always like all in on protection and run game, right? You should be just pass guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was was all in on pass, really didn't give a shit about the run game. But Bobby Johnson comes from the Giants.

Speaker 1 I think they are working very well, understands the run games every bit to help the pass game, and they've done very well with that. Let's go to the fourth quarter here with the commanders' offense.

Speaker 1 We got another one. So, Foxy, you remember, they were blitzing the shit out of him.
They were actually doing a decent job stopping the run. So, here we do.

Speaker 1 We block the guard down, get the center around, and then you get a huge hole. Austin Eckler, this was a critical play in the game.
Fourth quarter, big chunk play. Creating a big, gaping hole.

Speaker 1 Did they out-physical the Detroit Lions? That is the key to every team that won this week. And as we get further into the Buffalo Bills, we will talk all about physicality.

Speaker 1 But yes, Washington Commanders played physical on both sides of the ball, and that's why they won. Usually, which is the team that's the most physical wins every game.

Speaker 1 Let's go in the trenches with the Buffalo Bills, as you just pointed out. Deion Dawkins' split is hilarious.

Speaker 1 Hilarious, and his stance is hilarious. But the reason why I got this clip on, we just got to talk about the chop, and I'm fucking sick of it.
I am sick of it. I talk about it over and over again.

Speaker 1 You chop the inside arm, and then that dip shit in the back left throws a flag at them for no reason. This is not a foul.
This is using the defender's weight against them. You chop the inside arm.

Speaker 1 These two tackles are better than everybody in the league. It is a part of playing offensive line.
Work smarter, not harder. Chop their ass down.
Stop throwing flags. It was so casual by Dawkins.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Let me post. He posts them with his left hand.
Boom. And then right hand chops them down.

Speaker 4 Never once grabbed, never once even grabbed grabbed the jersey a little bit. AQ, what's the rule saying this? What do the refs claim?

Speaker 1 They keep all they do, and this is what they do: they scan, they scan, they scan. And whenever you see that, a lot of times they think it's just a jerk pull down.

Speaker 1 And when that happens, they scan, they see somebody on the ground, it's like, oh, where's my little yellow thing? So I can throw it at somebody. It looks like a dip shit.

Speaker 1 Hey, Bill Smoffy, let's amplify this a little bit here because this is something that needs to be heard. We've tried to spot like this earlier in the year.
This is a Deion Dawkins move.

Speaker 1 He is a special, special player with this. Absolutely.
It takes timing, takes power, takes precision. It's not just like any dip shit can do this particular move.

Speaker 1 Deion Dawkins is a highly skilled chopper, and he even tries to help them down almost. It's like the casualness of it all.
It's a very skilled move.

Speaker 4 People claiming he grabbed the jersey there. There's no

Speaker 1 what the explanation was: I've seen this in slow-mo, but his left hand gets the inside of his chest plate and pulls and pulls

Speaker 1 a chop. Yeah, so that's

Speaker 1 it. It was a smooth pull, yeah.
You can kind of, because when he starts to fall, his arm goes with him.

Speaker 1 His left hand rather goes with him. But again, I agree.
The chop is great, and they should not let it shoot.

Speaker 1 And I call full bullshit on that because I just think his left hand's there, and it just follows as the guy goes down. I don't think there's anything yanking down.

Speaker 1 Well, and also, I think his finger kind of gets stuck in it as it's going down. But they're mad at offensive linemen for not getting their hands inside.

Speaker 1 He actually has his hand in the middle of this guy's chest. That's exactly where you're trying to go, right? Within the framework.
That's correct.

Speaker 1 And Spencer Brown has copied this move and has become great at it, too, as the right tackle. This is a very big move for both these guys.

Speaker 1 Here's the other reason why it's bullshit whenever you try and take this move away.

Speaker 1 Whenever a defender has to deal with this, now instead of them leaning and all the bull rush, it kind of takes that out because they don't want chopped and thrown on the ground. It's good play.

Speaker 1 Let's not just ruin it, okay? It's a fullback cutting you.

Speaker 4 AQ, it's like a fullback cut in a backer sometimes. It'll might make them think twice next time you're coming in there full go, right, with your head down trying to kill the people.

Speaker 1 Also, have a little balance. Yeah.
That's right. You can stay on your feet.
I don't care, Snow.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because like, you know, just like AQ used to do in high school, whenever he was a basketball hall of famer in western Pennsylvania, you start leaning a little bit.

Speaker 1 We'll just kind of move the chair out. Bang, you're down.
Pull the chair. Pull the chair.
That's what Dawkins is doing. That's exactly right.
We love him, too. Shmelmi? Love him.
He's got the

Speaker 1 snow goggles.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. He is playing loose.
Loose.

Speaker 1 He's getting 10-yard split. Yeah, that's insane.
It's insane. He's awesome.
He's awesome. On the line of scrimmage, all the way out like a slot.
Yeah. Yeah, they talk about an island.

Speaker 1 Welcome to Dawkins Island. That's where you're at.
You could potentially get chopped at the end of the day. We need him to stop calling it.
That's a good play by Dawkins. Great play.
Good play.

Speaker 1 All right, let's stay with the Buffalo Bills offensive line. We got QB power at the end of the first half.
This was a huge play. Kind of a dagger.
Puts him up 21 to 10.

Speaker 1 Let's take a look at his counterpart, right tackle, Spencer Brown. Boom, throws his ass across, and then gets up on the second level.
Josh Allen walks in, says, get off me. Boys, game over.

Speaker 1 I didn't feel about the power for Josh Allen. They used it a lot.
So did Riley Leonard in Notre Dame. Yeah, listen, I love it as like a change-up.

Speaker 1 And listen, when you got him who's 6'7, 250 and can always get you 4 or 5, it's always got to be an option. It always has to be an option, especially in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Josh Allen, uh not scared at all to run to power either no no josh allen just spoke at a press conference either earlier today or yesterday about that play where there was almost a pitchback and uh he admitted that you know younger josh probably does make that pitch yeah yeah and it did cross his mind it certainly was uh and then he said he saw a hand come into his framework which was that guy on the other side who could have snagged that thing and went and he decided to hold on go down josh allen's playing his best football we always thought to ourselves josh allen was a prototype but he always has those bonehead plays yep he'll just make a play where it's like Josh, you don't need to do that.

Speaker 1 You don't need to do that. But Josh was trying to make a play because every play was supposed to be a touchdown.
Now he's like, mator, he's ready. This Bills team feels, Josh feels ready.

Speaker 1 The Bills team feels ready. But we said that before, and it's still the Chiefs.
I will say this. This is the last thing I want to say about this offensive line.

Speaker 1 When you play the Baltimore Ravens, They got the number one run defense. They got Big Pierce weighing 400 in the middle.
They got boys in the middle of that defensive line that want to bully you.

Speaker 1 They out-physicaled them. The Buffalo Bills went six alignment and just took it to them.

Speaker 1 When it came time to run in duo in the fourth quarter and just running downhill, you watched their offensive line taking Baltimore's defensive line and moving this way. Sweet.

Speaker 1 All right, now let's get the AFC, the back-to-back Super Bowl champions, the Kansas City Chiefs. Where'd they go? Do they have any highlights? Nope.
They got zero highlights. I watched the film twice.

Speaker 1 Couldn't find a single clip. Not one? Not a one.
They're good, though. I don't know why they're good.
They're back-to-back Super Bowl champs. They are good.
Number one C in the AFC.

Speaker 1 No, the team is good. The team is good.
Their Their offensive line is not playing well right now, period. They are not getting movement.

Speaker 1 Both tackles are getting pressed in the pocket. Mahomes is running around like crazy.

Speaker 1 They're ad-libbing with Kelsey, so they're making enough plays and they're doing enough in situational football and they're playing great defense and they're and they're out coaching.

Speaker 1 When you guys beat him in the Super Bowl, it was the offensive line, right? It was their offensive line, and it was specifically the tackles because the same interior three were great.

Speaker 1 Our whole move was we're going to put Vitaveia and I forget who, Will Golston on the outside.

Speaker 1 We put the two edge rushers, Shaq Barrett and Jason Pierre-Paul, collapse the tackles, get them to roll out into Pierre Paul and Shaq Barrett, and then he's running for his life. Todd Bulls.

Speaker 1 JPP had a big game in the Super Bowl. Big game.

Speaker 1 That's the only time Pat's lost in the Super Bowl? Yeah. I think so.

Speaker 1 Which is crazy that we even have that stat.

Speaker 1 Only time this guy has lost in the Super Bowl. Like, it's not like in a season or his career or anything like that.
Like Super Bowl game.

Speaker 1 He has enough Super Bowl games now where we're like, this guy's only, the time he lost, they took advantage of it. Remember that Super Bowl a couple years ago when Pat was in it?

Speaker 1 Just like the one last year he was, just like the one three years ago when he was in it. Like that is what Patrick Mahomes has come accustomed to.
Seven straight AFC championships is an insane stat.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's only lost three times.

Speaker 1 Burrow AFC Championship, and then Brady with the Pats AFC Championship.

Speaker 1 It's insane. He's on a run.
Not just him, the team. Offensive line, we got faith in him, even though he doesn't.
We got faith in him.

Speaker 1 That was OG in the trenches, AQ Shipley. Let's move to the secondary, shall we? Let's go.
Everything DB. Good D, bad D with Darius J.
Butler.

Speaker 2 Yes, sir. Let's get to it.
We're going to start with the Washington Commanders. Had a big, big day against Jared Goff in the Detroit Lions.
Pause it here.

Speaker 2 If you pause it here, pre-snap, rewind a little bit, a couple frames. Pre-snap be showing cover three.
It's single high.

Speaker 2 It looks like either man-to-man or cover three because you have that one middle-of-the-field safety. Post-snap, you're going to rotate, and you'll see it rotate down here to cover two.

Speaker 2 A lattimore being a flat defender. You got the safety over top, Kwan Martin.

Speaker 2 And then the depth the depth of that if you run it back real quick actually actually let it keep playing because you see the overthrow you see the return great return got a great block by Frankie Louville oh Jared Goff this changes the game we talk about cut blocks and and look back blocks when you hit the quarterback like this this changes the game but right here Jared Goff the protection up front great great pocket right they've done this all year in the intermediate pass game Jared Goff especially when protector to coming off play action is one of the best quarterbacks all year long but great drops you look at that defender right there on the hash mark.

Speaker 2 He's an underneath defender. And then you have Lattimore, who's the flat defender on the outside.
So Jared Goff, you have a check down here on second and 14.

Speaker 2 Laporte right there in your face, but he tries to go to the deep one. Patrick, and because of that dropper, he tries to put air on it, put too much air on it.
I always talk about tips and overthrows.

Speaker 2 You got to have those. And whenever you get points on the board, it gets an explosive offense and get a hit on that quarterback.
Big, big time play here from the commanders.

Speaker 2 And it's obviously changed, completely changed the outlook of this game.

Speaker 2 We're talking about the offense for the the commanders a lot defense also obviously holding up their end of the bar game yeah defense making plays and the playoffs especially with explosive offense like this turnovers turnovers always matter they change the game especially when you can instantly put points on the board board like Quan Martin did another guy who had a big big big time game Mikey Samrist still we watched him his last couple games at Michigan when they were there on their way to win a national championship big big part of that Jesse Minner defense in Michigan and it's been a big part of this commanders defense this year two interceptions this one in the quarter coverage, kind of in the fringe area.

Speaker 2 If you pause it here, J-Mo, ton of speed. You got no safety help with this route and quarters coverage.
You can kind of see both safeties kind of settling.

Speaker 2 So, as a cornerback, this is a tough, tough position to be in, especially when you have a speedster like J-Mo out there because you're outside leverage.

Speaker 2 So, if he runs that post and every quarterback, every coordinator around the league knows it, we got that inside, outside leverage.

Speaker 2 So, for him to undercut that, and you'll see it better from the TV copy, started with outside leverage, stayed open, and then squeezed and then undercut J-Mo.

Speaker 2 You know, you're going to want to put this ball a little bit over the top, maybe a little more inside, but great, great job by Mikey Sanders still turning into the receiver once that ball got in the air.

Speaker 1 J-Mo's a weapon. Obviously, he's an incredible celebrator as well.
And I would have loved to seen what he would have done if he would have scored a touchdown. Oh, bro.

Speaker 1 I mean, literally anybody or anything could have got it. But that's a great jump on a play.

Speaker 2 Great job, awareness, and great job finishing that play, going up there, turning into the receiver, bringing that down.

Speaker 2 He actually had his second interception, which was from J-Mo, on the double pass that Ben Johnson drew up. Common says because he was ready to get the hell out of there and get to Chicago.

Speaker 1 Five total turnovers. Yes,

Speaker 1 four picks, three from Jared Goff, one from J-Mo, and a fumble. I mean, that's a massive day.

Speaker 2 Turnovers.

Speaker 2 Turnovers are going to win you ball games. And also stopping the run.
You talk about stopping and run, being able to run the ball. Who's the more physical team? Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, former lion.

Speaker 2 This is a big time play. Third and two.
So, you know, we're in the fourth down revolution time where it's always you get some yards here. If you get a

Speaker 2 no-gain, you maybe go for it here.

Speaker 2 Gets them for a a tackle for loss they end up settling for a field goal right here to make it 1310 I believe at this point in the game big time play if you run that back one more time from that back copy this is tough for a DB you got what's he saying here

Speaker 2 yep pause it so um you got him and slay down here they're communicating on these two tight ends so hey we're basically combo in and out so in and out first in and out signal yep first one inside first boom so me and you pat if i'm slay

Speaker 2 if i'm yep i'm slaying your cj i'm looking at you right now in and out so if 87 goes in, whoever goes in, you take him as that inside defender. Outside, I'll take him.

Speaker 2 If they both come up, we'll take him as they come out. Now, once that guy goes across the ball, boom.

Speaker 2 Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, his run gap, his run responsibility moves with 87. Wherever 87 goes, he has to fit off of his block.
So he sees 87 make that block inside. He immediately shoots his trigger.

Speaker 1 Boom. Yep.

Speaker 2 He's going to block. He's got to fit off of that block.
So a great job by him having discipline, understanding where to be in the run game.

Speaker 2 When you are a DB, especially a safety, being able to make stops in a run game is huge, especially in the playoffs. You look at the fucking weather.
It's a big time play in this game.

Speaker 1 As soon as he saw 87 was not going out for a pass, he was blocking. He said, All right, fuck it, run responsibility.

Speaker 2 And that's a tough, tough spot to be on third and short because everybody's gearing up for the run. It's run, you got big personnel, you got three tight ends on the field.

Speaker 2 So everyone's thinking run, but we've all seen it hard play action. Somebody, extra O-lineman, big tight end.

Speaker 2 He's in the end zone wide open because, as a defender, especially a db you also have run game responsibility so a hard fake can kill you so having the confidence to be able to trigger this reading your keys we talk about see a little see a lot you see that one key you make a big time play love cj gj being who he says he is absolutely this guy who be he be who he says he be always always always what a weapon for them big weapon and you talk about a weapon jalen hurts he got banged up so we'll see how healthy he'll be with this week but him being in that backfield with saquon is a big part of why their run game is what it is you see the responsibility for defenders now this is on bad d if you run it back just look at the dbs we just saw chauncey gardner johnson you have to want to make plays you look at this corner down here you look at 26 running around blocks not getting off blocks guys going underneath my lotta he can't even find anyone to block so that to me if i'm watching on film you're not interested in tackling you're not interested in in beating a block and tackling the quarterback now jalen hurts is a big physical quarterback but you got to get him down.

Speaker 2 So this is a big-time play by Jalen Hurts. We'll see how healthy he will be.

Speaker 2 I think we'll see pretty early on, but he's a big factor in that run game when you talk about being on the edge, you know, coming down here.

Speaker 1 I love that. Hey, I love that.

Speaker 1 The Rams defense is going to be able to point at those old offseason shows. Oh, yeah.
The fans are going to be able to be like, hey,

Speaker 1 our biggest game. No, I'm not saying they did this all year.
I think that young Rams defense has been awesome to watch kind of develop and come together.

Speaker 2 But like that play it's hard to watch that's hard to watch it's very hard to watch so those guys those you dread those moments and we always talk about cold weather games that's what shows up like you're not interested in hitting big people and hitting the ground but

Speaker 2 This is it.

Speaker 2 Like you you play you win you win and you go home So that's the benefit of being one of those cold weather teams We're in Philly and now we got a team from LA coming out You're already mentally thinking Hey, we're gonna be solid in college Hey, we're gonna be mentally tougher in this team because we're used to these elements So when you come and you put some shit like that on film, I'm sure those guys are sick.

Speaker 1 Is this another bad day here? A good D.

Speaker 1 What do you think? Oh, James playing quarterback.

Speaker 1 Looks like the Terry. He's got higher.

Speaker 2 You saw the pregame speech from Terry McLaurin. When they turned that film on, you know what they're going to say? Be who you say you are.

Speaker 1 He said, when they talk about me, I ride. I'm him.
I'm going to ride, he said.

Speaker 2 They're going to say we some dogs, and he is a dog. You got four by one right here.
So you got Eckler offset to the trip side.

Speaker 2 Now, if you just leave it paused here, for Jaden Daniels, this is a quick boxer. This is first and 10.
So he's just saying, okay, right now I got three over three up top.

Speaker 2 You got Branch, you got the corner, you got another safety. So we got three defenders over three wide receivers.
So if I throw it out there, it's two on two, and then almost like an Oklahoma drill.

Speaker 2 Now you got a one-on-one tackle. But once Brian Branch gets into, so right now he's starting at what we call the apex, right? So that's basically splitting.
We see Caleb Downs do this a lot.

Speaker 2 You split the bunch and you split the run so that you can still have a run fit. But he blitzes.
So he gives Jaden Daniels the answer. Now the math is on our side.
Now we got three on two.

Speaker 2 I just get it out to my playmaker. We make two blocks, hit it up the middle of the chute.
Kirby Joseph is not going to be able to catch him. Got out ran there.
So you talk about this play.

Speaker 2 You draw it up. This is one of those Friday plays where you script for success.
Hey, bring the blitz. It's going to be three on two out there.
He's going to block outside. He's going to block inside.

Speaker 2 Terry McLaurin's going to hit the chute. Great job.
Great execution. And just making it throwing in, letting Terry, scary Terry be special.

Speaker 4 Yeah, run this. Run this.
There's somebody that is the entire face of Detroit here at the end of this. I'll tell you when it pauses.

Speaker 4 Scary Terry's going.

Speaker 4 Scary Terry's rolling.

Speaker 1 Pause.

Speaker 4 There's going to be a dude that's about to show up.

Speaker 1 He's right here. Look at this guy.
Blade.

Speaker 1 What was he saying? Bummed up. Yikes.
What was he saying?

Speaker 1 That's no good. He's bummed up.
That's a hold. No good.

Speaker 1 I think he was saying we're fucked. So fucking over.
It's over. It's a co-chair.
That was a called run. Good check by Jaden.

Speaker 1 So that's why Cliff does that. If you guys noticed how the bunch was super wide, because you have to declare when you blitz.

Speaker 1 So when you're running the RPO like that, he knows he has to come because that bunch super wide. You can't blitz from all the way out there.
And how about Jaden in the biggest moment, making a play?

Speaker 1 Making the right play so quickly. He's the guy.
He is the guy.

Speaker 2 That's the thing you see with him, like, especially with young, even sometimes old quarterbacks. Like, you know, Russ was on the day.

Speaker 2 And one of the things that I think a lot of Steelers fans or people that watch him a lot would say, hey, you just want him to be more decisive, whether you throw the ball away, whether you decide to run, or you make a throw.

Speaker 2 And that's what you see from Jaden Daniels. And you don't typically see that as a young cornerback.

Speaker 2 I mean, quarterback, especially in the biggest moments, always so calm and collected, and then very decisive. You know, huge downs, third downs, fourth downs, two-minute drill, doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 Just very, very decisive. Throw the ball, throw the check down, throw it away, run, just make a decision and make it quick.

Speaker 1 Tom Rinaldi's mind blown. Oh,

Speaker 1 holy shit.

Speaker 1 All right, we have some breaking news out of the NFL.

Speaker 1 New England Patriots have officially hired Coach Williams, former defensive line coach for the Detroit Lions and defensive run game coordinator for the Detroit Lions, is now the defensive coordinator for the Patriots.

Speaker 1 Varebo's putting his staff together, Connor. Yeah, they go all the way back.
I guess Terrell Williams was actually named associate head coach in Tennessee when Varebo was there.

Speaker 1 I actually let him be the head coach for a few preseason games

Speaker 1 during his run with the Titans. Obviously McDaniels.
We talked about being the OC. That was kind of assumed immediately.
I believe they brought in a few other guys from Tennessee. Otter guys,

Speaker 1 cup otter guys, Tony Mountain Dew.

Speaker 1 He is also coming in. He's the running backs coach.
And then I believe his Ernie Adams is coming over from the Rams.

Speaker 1 Like they are slowly starting to put everything together, keeping the same special teams coordinator because that group was so good this year, Jeremy Springer. So yeah, the team's taking shape.

Speaker 1 Feel very good about it. And, you know, we talked about it this morning.
Still have like $128 million in cap space. So moves will be made, and Vrabel will be leading the charge.

Speaker 1 Supreme Commander Vrabel is, you know, kind of getting it going now.

Speaker 1 We are going to do a full salary cap dive tomorrow in the program because where the cap is, where it has been in the history of the NFL, and who has what for this upcoming offseason, obviously very important conversations.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. And we'll do some journalism on that tomorrow.
All right. Debuck, great work this week, buddy.

Speaker 1 Hey, Q. What a time time by you.
You really did well out here today. Thanks, guys.
You said you don't believe in the Chiefs because they're offensive line.

Speaker 1 But then in the same mouth, said Eagles have best offensive line, but they're not going to win. So never ends.
I never know what to believe. This guy.

Speaker 1 I never know what to do with you. Snip, snap, snip, snap.
They got a great offensive line. Who? Philly.

Speaker 1 But.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Quarterback can't throw over the middle. Jeez.

Speaker 1 This guy. He's a dirtbag.
Just saying.

Speaker 1 We'll find out if you can or not. Sure will.
No better time to do it than the NFC Championship, Jalen Hurts, as you guys host the Washington Commanders and on the AFC side, Chiefs and Bills.

Speaker 1 We got two great games this weekend. Thank you for everything, AQ.
Before we get out of here, you want to do a contest, maybe a giveaway?

Speaker 1 Because we only got a couple weeks left here, and we haven't had a lot of winners. Let's do it.
What are you going to do? You're going to throw a ball? I'm going to win today. Are you?

Speaker 1 Yes, you are. Okay.
AQ, what did that ball land that you hit back?

Speaker 1 To those motherfuckers into you? It went over them. I think so, right? Yeah, it went over them.
I think it did. You hit it pure.
I mean, it was fucking stroked.

Speaker 1 It was the second one on that hole that you drove, so it was like a mullet. Sure.
Angry AQ. Second team All-American.
Yeah. Always.
Always.

Speaker 4 If he duffs that when he's super pissed trying to hit that group, that's a tough look.

Speaker 1 Well, think about me being there, too. I just tee another one up.
Yeah, he would have done that, but I would have obviously reminded him of what just took place.

Speaker 1 You know, I feel like I'm good in those situations. You know, just kind of pointing out the things that are taking place right now in front of all of us.
Like, this is what life is right now.

Speaker 1 It was a magical moment, though. It really was.
They did not hit into us again.

Speaker 4 They stayed way back.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they did. We had our own course.
Felt like we had our own course.

Speaker 1 Just shut it down. Yeah, normally people plug it or cover it with grass.
You said, ah, let's send one back. Let's return fire.
If I fire with fire. And you certainly did.

Speaker 1 They never expected one coming back up the fairway. Ever.
Never. Ever.
No. That's like a sneaky.
That's like art of war. That is, that's right.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because you let them know real quick where you stand. Yeah, you have no idea how.
You might have been the only person to ever hit a golf ball that way on that fairway. First time I've ever heard it.

Speaker 1 Where'd you pick that up from?

Speaker 2 Where'd you learn learn that from?

Speaker 1 I don't know, but I also always felt real. Real confident in myself at the fact that I was.

Speaker 1 You guys remember the offseason, me. I was always 330, maybe, maybe pushing 340.
There was nobody coming to.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, you would have handled your business.

Speaker 1 You certainly would have. I would have told some weirdest two, but I mean, we would have figured it out, obviously, I think, if it would have gone down.
But that was a good question, Deba.

Speaker 1 Where did you get that from? I was shocked by the move. I was.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. You haven't seen that? Yeah, where did you pick that up from? I go zero to 100 real quick

Speaker 1 in everything. Yeah, but

Speaker 1 when did you think to yourself, you know what? Let's return fire. I think after the first one,

Speaker 1 okay,

Speaker 1 you didn't learn your lesson? Okay, sounds good. It was awesome.
And then another one comes by? It was an awesome moment.

Speaker 1 Time to teach us. All right, here we go.
That was before social media, too. I thought for sure it would have been a golf course fight.

Speaker 1 But instead, we got traded like royalty. Scared the absolute shit out of those guys.

Speaker 2 That'll be the new move going forward, though.

Speaker 1 It's a good one. Fireback.
Fireback. Good one.
Listen, who wants to return fire? Who struck it today?

Speaker 1 Who wants to send one over? Because even if you bomb it over their head, they realize. Yeah, oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, they're better golfers than us, too.

Speaker 1 Holy shit.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 AJ said he's seen it before, though.

Speaker 1 AJ, you've seen that before?

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah. I've been in groups where that has happened.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I haven't done it, but I've watched dudes do it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 AJ doing that with his ball. Probably hit the guy.
No, I'm usually the guy.

Speaker 4 I've accidentally hit into people a lot.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah, we know.
Yeah, we know.

Speaker 4 Well, you know, sometimes there's holes where it's like, there's a hill and they go over a hill hill and I think they're way gone and all of a sudden they're only 200 yards and I drive one 150 yards over their head.

Speaker 4 Then they get upset.

Speaker 1 There's video reporting of Coop

Speaker 1 watching the Eagles win this past weekend. Is that right?

Speaker 1 Oh, he's standing up in a suite clapping his ass off. Good for Coop, dude.
Had a baby coop. Good for Coop, dude.
He had two jackets on, I do believe. If I can recall, good thumbs up, big clap.

Speaker 1 Add a baby coop. Hey, congrats to your Eagles.

Speaker 1 Go get him. That's a good clap out of Coop, by the way.
It's a good clap out of Coop.

Speaker 1 We're all right. We're okay.

Speaker 1 Sits him back down.

Speaker 1 We better fucking win this game.

Speaker 1 He's so handsome. Oh, yeah.
That's the best.

Speaker 1 He also sells the best Philly cheesesteak in New York. Bar none.
Really? Danny and Coops. Hands down.
Danny and Coops. Guess who's making them? Yeah, guess who's in the back making these sandwiches?

Speaker 1 He is. Bingham.
Coop. Bradley Cooper.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You said it. Bradley Cooper cooking up sandwiches for people.
They come through Daniel Coops. amazing.
Have you had one?

Speaker 1 I've seen a picture. It looks delightful.
So good.

Speaker 1 I think you can only get it one way.

Speaker 1 You come in, this is the sandwich. Wizwip.

Speaker 1 Is that what it is? I think so. Sure.
Okay. Boom.
Cheese with fried onions.

Speaker 4 That's it.

Speaker 1 That's like the Philly steak. That's not it.
Okay, there's more to it. There's love, there's the tenderness of the meat.
The roller. The hoagies are ripples.
The goats.

Speaker 1 The whole cheek is what you're talking about. It's not just.

Speaker 1 That's it. It's Danny and Coops.

Speaker 1 Where's it at? It's in me too. It's in New York.
What part of New York? Do we remember where we live?

Speaker 1 Westside? Tribeca. That's what I wanted to say, but I'm not sure.
Yeah, I think it's Lower Manhattan.

Speaker 1 I think it's over there in

Speaker 1 Southwark in there. I think it's potentially in East Village.
East Village. Yeah, I was going to say Thumbball.
East Ville. Yeah, of course, over there.
Chinatown, that's next to Chinatown there.

Speaker 1 Coop would never put his shop next to Chinatown.

Speaker 1 Coop might want to get his hands on that thing, that rig that you guys got. Yeah, he might.

Speaker 1 It might from Sweden.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's not from us.

Speaker 1 Yeah, of course.

Speaker 1 Sweden in town. Sweden town, of course.
Shout out, Coop. Happy Your Eagles are doing well.
Can't wait to see what you do next. Happy birthday, too, Coop.
Happy birthday, Coop.

Speaker 1 Just a couple weeks of your birthday. We probably missed it.
We missed it. And Merry Christmas, too.

Speaker 1 Hell yeah. And also, happy birthday last year.
We missed a couple. Yeah.
We missed a few.

Speaker 1 Wow, fucking happy Easter, too, dude.

Speaker 4 Happy Valentine's coming up, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, love. We love love.
Saw him in there. President's Day.
That's cool. Yeah, happy President.
We missed a few at least. Happy MOK Day.
Yep.

Speaker 1 yep just happy the other day obviously happy and also last year's we missed a program yep

Speaker 1 april fools oh just kidding

Speaker 1 aq why don't you not be a january fool and why don't you win 50

Speaker 1 30 people i was gonna say he'd probably do 50 though i don't think he's made one all year 50 people 500 all you gotta do is put that football into that hoop right over there aq shipley penn state alum super bowl champion former coach and player for the tampa buccaneers wasn't an owner but he was damn near jackie Moon.

Speaker 1 If he puts that ball into that hoop over there, 50 people are going to celebrate with 500 bucks. AQ Shipley,

Speaker 1 bam, bam, bam, bam. That's a good ball.

Speaker 1 Pretty good ball. You and Pagano cut from the same cloth.
This one, 30 people, $500. All you gotta do is put that football into that hoop right over there.
AQ, I like that you went after it there.

Speaker 1 You know, we talked about Aaron Glenn doing it. Yeah.
You did the same thing there. You didn't hold back.
You weren't nervous. It was a free, free motion.

Speaker 1 Now, I don't know if you're throwing out hearts, okay? And if you do that, I think you should throw it similar to this football.

Speaker 1 But if you throw that football into that hoop right over there, 30 people $500. Here we go.
AQ Shipley, for the good of the people.

Speaker 1 Oh, throw it tight spy, though.

Speaker 1 Illinois. Why is this thing going so far? Well, it's because

Speaker 1 it's a baby Duke 2.0. It is the perfect toss around football.
It's heavy, but it's soft enough to catch.

Speaker 1 The laces are obviously there to help you throw, but they're not too stern to slice and dice your calluses or fingers. It's a ball that can be punted.
It's a ball that can be thrown.

Speaker 1 It's a ball that can be a winner for 30 people of of 500 all you gotta do is put it into that hoop right over there baby duke 2.0 available now 30 people 500

Speaker 1 what a throw

Speaker 1 what a throw

Speaker 1 that was awesome never a doubt congratulations Great work this week. All right.

Speaker 1 All you got to do is repost this post, say something nice to somebody, and put the easiest way to pay you 30 people will win $500 because AQ Shipley put that beautiful Baby Duke 2.0 into that hooper.

Speaker 1 That baby Q Shipley. It's Magical Wednesday.
We'll be back tomorrow. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living.

Speaker 1 Be a friend, tell a friend something nice that might change their life. Tone, come out of hammer.
Done, tone.

Speaker 1 We're in this thing together. Never forget it.
All of us. No matter what happens, wherever it happens, we're in this thing together.

Speaker 1 Let's continue to enjoy this life and be thankful that we're alive and not dead. Team on me,

Speaker 1 team on three.

Speaker 1 One, two, three, team. Goodbye.

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