PMS 2.0 1279 - NFL Divisional Round Preview/Picks, Adam Schefter, Adam Pacman Jones, & AJ Hawk

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our Humble Abode, the Thunderdome, on this Feel Good Friday, January 17th, 2025. This program starts right now.
Football! It's wonderful. We are just one day away from the divisional round of the NFL kicking off tomorrow.
Two games. Two games on Sunday.
And then what on Monday? Oh, the college football national championship that we'll be on the sideline for for another edition, potentially the final edition, of the field pass on ESPN2. We can't thank you all enough for allowing us to do this for a living.
Football is on fire. We're lucky to be in the middle of all of it.
The toxic table is here at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt. Ty, you look fantastic.
Good to see you. Hey, thank you you you look great as well how about boston connor right now rocking a brand new 50 jersey how and why did that come to be boston about two weeks before the patriots announced who their next head coach would be i thought you know it's gonna be mike frable like what are we even talking about here this is stupid so there's obviously the red the blue the The blue and the white, kind of the newer jerseys.
I don't think Mr. Supreme Commander Mike Vrabel ever wore those.
So I said, you know what, I'll get a red one. And it doesn't say Vrabel on the back instead.
What? Okay. Okay.
That's head coach. Yeah, I get it.
Because that was his jersey. Yeah.
But now he's the head coach of the team. Bingo, yeah.
So I think it kind of works in both ways. Obviously, you know, a 50, Mike Vrabel, of course.
That's not Rob Nankovich. That's Mike Vrabel.
And then you look on the back, head coach. Yes, of course, it's Mike Vrabel.
Now, I didn't go white or blue because, you know, maybe the Patriots changed their jerseys. Maybe they go back to the old school, you know, what they used to be.
Those kind of throwback ones, but permanently. But so I went with the red.
Yeah, I'm very proud of this purchase i would honestly uh what size is that for pads is that to fit with funny enough it is double x just in case you know either supreme commander mike vrabel wanted it or if i had to throw some shoulder pads on it would still work uh so that's why i went with the double x also that's all that was available so it's got it's kind of is what it is in that sense, but I'm glad that I did it

so that when I do need to wear

shoulder pads, which I'm sure will happen

over these next eight months before the next season

starts, that I'll still be able to wear it.

I heard Supreme Commander maybe

knows of your existence, obviously,

and then also said, hey, I'm going to need a ride

to and work if you can figure that out for me. Is that

potentially what happened there? There's a chance.

And look, hey, look, it's open. I have people that are waiting for that call to piggyback rod to pick up mike supreme commander whenever he needs and also i know these same people have very very good connections in the nicotine department so i know whatever he would need possibly he would have the other day nicotine department fda approves in to go ahead and move forward, which is a wild development in it all.
I think the big tobacco is also running big ZIN, I think. Correct.
It's kind of one thing to the other. Why potentially got that.
Nonetheless, the ZINners out there get a ZIN on the notch today. ZIN is now FDA approved, which I'm not 100% sure what that means, but I know this office is certainly pumped that it's not going anywhere.
And I'm not talking about myself. I'm just talking about the random Zins that are around everywhere.
And I don't think our office is alone in that. I think it's rather large everywhere.
Let's talk about the hat you have on. Just cocks across your forehead right now.
Are you mayor of Cocktown today? No, I figured, you know, there's some football teams, especially on this weekend. You talked about how great it's going to be Saturday, Sunday, Monday.
I feel like the Cox are one of those

teams that are probably still thinking right

now we should be in the national championship.

And I don't want to say

that they should because I think we got it right.

I think the 7 vs. 8 seed is perfect.

You said, you know what, it's the national championship

on Monday, let's go back four rounds.

And revisit the argument

of who got in and who didn't.

We remember. We were talking about all these NFL teams that had great seasons.
We're probably going to talk about a few more on Monday. Like, hey, it was still a great season.
Cox, I just want them to know we remember. They finished strong.
The Cox strong on this is what people would say. And I think Shane Beamer is excited for what he's building down there in South Carolina.
I think going forward, South Carolina is going to be in a great spot. They certainly ended the year in the right way.
And that first round of college football playoffs, a lot of blowouts. A lot of blowouts.

So there was a lot of arguments on who got in, who should have got in,

who shouldn't have got in.

Then we go to the second round.

Guess what?

Another round of it.

Oh, yeah.

Then we get to the semifinals.

Good games.

Now we're at the national championship.

We assume Notre Dame and Ohio State are going to bring out the best in each other.

And we'll say this.

The messaging that's coming out of both teams, awesome.

Yes.

Everything you would want from two teams that are, you know,

laying on the line for one last time.

You know, Jack Sawyer, Captain Jack Sawyer, number 33 for the Ohio State Buckeyes

who had the strip sack and then the 92-yard scoop and score against Texas

to put that game away down there in a cotton bowl.

He had a Players' Tribune article written, and he said,

one more, then forever.

And basically this whole narrative started after last year

whenever he and a group of the guys that could have went and left to the NFL Thank you. And he said, one more, then forever.
And basically, this whole narrative started after last year,

whenever he and a group of the guys that could have went and left to the NFL gone on a group text and basically shared their thoughts about how,

you know, we can come back and win the whole damn thing.

We can come back and really rewrite the entire script.

And he said it was very emotional in there.

Some guys chose to leave.

Some guys wanted to leave at the beginning.

And then in the group, Techs decided they

wanted to come back, and they decided one

more season than we have forever

as Buckeyes. Now there's one more

game than forever. What

Captain Jack is saying in that article,

the Players' Tribune, wonderful.

Then Riley Leonard, his message,

and I don't know if it was his idea

or if it was Coach Freeman's idea or whatever it is,

they said history is written by the winners, basically. The conquerors is how they said it.
You're holding the pen has been the messaging. So Jack Sawyer and the Buckeyes are like, one more than forever.
And then Notre Dame's like, hey, we're writing history right now. Those are two very powerful narratives.
Combining on Monday night, clashing on Monday night, two fantastic teams. Monday night is going to be awesome, Ty Schmidt.
Yeah, I cannot wait. And I think, like you said, too, the closer we've gotten to this game, early on I think everyone was like, okay, we've seen Ohio State and what they've been able to do these last several weeks.
They're going to blow out Notre Dame. They're way more talented.
They have all the five-star recruits. Their offense has been humming.
I think we're going to get a tight game. I really do.
I think there is a world in which Notre Dame can absolutely win this game. I can't wait.
I mean, the semifinals, both of them, I mean, in that game early on, it was like, you know, we were there in Miami and it felt like eh, Notre Dame, like, it's just not their night. It was a great season.
But when they have the opportunity to take the momentum and flip it,

they flip the game on its head.

They've done that in every single round thus far.

So I can't wait for this game.

Like Connor said, I think we got it right.

I think this is one of the most anticipated college football matchups

in a long time that's going to decide a champion.

They were saying that the Thursday and Friday night playoff games

had lower ratings than something in the past and yada, yada.

I think there was a little bit of either confusion on how big the games were, that the games were a big deal, and National Championship, everybody knows. This is it.
So I think viewing patterns are going to have to get used to being four games, which for these two teams, they've had to do. They've had to show up four straight games against very good opponents and play their best game.
Show up in the biggest moments.

Make clutch plays.

Make clutch throws.

Make massive clutch tackles.

Call a great game.

Make massive decisions.

And also, deliver your message if you're Marcus Freeman or Ryan Day.

Four different times to get it through that this is the biggest game of your life.

They've obviously been able to do that.

That guy's different than everybody else that's going to be on the field.

He'll be back next year again, hopefully for Ohio State.

I assume it will be for Ohio State, even though we don't understand how college football works nowadays.

There's a chance he plays for another team.

I'm not going to be on the field. He'll be back next year again, hopefully for Ohio State.
I assume it will be for Ohio State, even though we don't understand how college football works nowadays. There's a chance he plays for another team.
I guess there's a chance somebody comes in and says, Jeremiah Smith, here's $30 million for you to come play for another school. I don't know if that's possible or even a thought at the moment for Jeremiah, Travion, Henderson, and this entire squad, but cannot wait for Monday night and then the divisional round this weekend.

Let's go to one half of the hammer.

Dad!

Cowboys AP tone.

We're checking out the weather.

We're checking out the weather.

We think it's going to play a factor, especially in a couple of these games.

Texans, Chiefs, obviously kicking everything off on Saturday.

It is 4.30 kickoff.

That kickoff will be 24 degrees.

The coldest it's going to get is about 20.

It'll feel like it's 10 degrees. 11 to 13 mile an hour winds.
That's pretty big. 11 to 13 is certainly palpable and you will feel that.
Houston Texans obviously come from a dome. They're down in Houston.
Normally humid and everything like that. Will that play a factor like it did for the Miami Dolphins last year? We shall see.
Then Washington Commanders taking on the Detroit Lions.

Now, that's on Saturday at 8 o'clock.

It's going to feel like it's 70 and sunny kickoff.

The coldest it's going to get is about 70 and sunny.

And then it's going to feel like it's about 70 and sunny.

And, you know, there's a lot of people that say,

why don't we have that for all games,

especially with the amount of money we have.

That beautiful Ford Field Dome up there is going to be rocking for that one. Obviously, Jaden Daniels and the boys coming in there, they have overachieved this season.
I think they're going in there free against a Detroit Lions team that can feel it. Then Rams Eagles, this one, you see all the snowflakes around here.
That's not saying they're soft. That's not snowflakes.
It's not softies around here. Not at all.
Okay, that's saying those Johns are going to have to deal with 32 at kickoff, 31 coldest. It's going to feel like it's 22.
10 to 11 mile an hour winds. It's going to be breezy.
A lot of snow.

They're thinking maybe 3 to 5 inches

over there for that particular game. And then obviously

Ravens, Bills caps off

an incredible division around weekend.

It's going to feel like it's 19

at kickoff. I'm sorry, it's going to be 19 at kickoff.

Coldest, and it's going to feel like it's 11 with 6 to 7

mile an hour winds. Only about an inch of snow

being projected

now at this time. Tone, when you look

at this, who is at the greatest advantage

Thank you. and it's going to feel like it's 11 with six to seven mile-an-hour winds.
Only about an inch of snow being projected now at this time.

Tone, when you look at this, who is at the greatest advantage with the way the weather's going to be throughout the division around weekend?

And how do you think it actually plays into the game's outcomes?

Like, greatest advantage, and we've talked about this,

we talked about it a lot that first weekend of the college football playoff

when it was the first time that teams were hosting and had home field advantage.

And we talked about warmer teams coming up. We saw it withu going to penn state we saw other places when you look at this i mean it's tennessee coming up to us yes tennessee coming to ohio state when you look at this it's obviously the chiefs and eagles who you would think have the biggest advantage because obviously you said houston being the dome team la being a dome team also being la houston both warm places going against Chiefs and Eagles, who not only are cold-weather climates, these teams have played deep in the playoffs in cold-weather games in these situations before.
In the college football playoff, even Ohio State, they had never played into December. Tennessee was coming from a warmer climate, but Ohio State still had never.
These are teams in the Chiefs and Eagles that have made deep playoff runs and know what it's like to play in the cold. So obviously I think those two teams have the biggest advantage weather-wise.
And the way the Eagles play is a cold-weather style. Matthew Stafford is who we're all banking on with Puka and Cooper and everything they got.
And obviously Williams is very good. But the Philadelphia Eagles have the best offensive line in the entire NFL, says AQ Shipley in the trenches.
They also have the best running back in the NFL in Saquon Barkley, if you look at all of the stats, pretty much. So you would think cold weather, a lot of snow, that feeds right into what they're...
Saquon, Pennsylvania guy, Penn State guy, played for the Giants, now he's playing for the Eagles. It's like, built for it.
I was born in it. Doesn't mean he likes it.
A lot of us who were born in the cold, we obviously have built up calluses to understand it. It doesn't mean we like it.
It's just like, okay, whenever we get dropped into it, we understand the suck a little bit more than most people. I'm not saying NFL players aren't used to playing in the cold.
There's going to be cold games. But whenever you're talking about three to five inches of snow, when you're talking about it feeling like it's 22 degrees, 10 to 11 mile an hour winds, I mean, that is a mental test as much as it is a physical test.
Philadelphia Eagles, we think, will be set up for that in a good way. But this LA Rams team has been surprising everybody through the entirety.
Then you think about Ravens-Bills. Obviously, the Bills and the Bills Mafia are used to it feeling like it's 11 degrees.
They're used to it being 6 to 7 mile an hour winds. I assume they were hoping that maybe we get a little bit more snow so we can get a real Buffalo game.
I think less snow, the better for the Buffalo Bills because if you think of where the Baltimore Ravens are built with Patrick Ricard and Derrick Henry in the backfield with Lamar Jackson, the power game that they could just play. If it was to get a little messy, if this would become a mud game, become a snow game, if this would become that, you'd think it would benefit the Baltimore Ravens as opposed to the Buffalo Bills, but they got Josh Allen.
Yeah, exactly. Josh Allen is a wagon in of himself, used to it, comes from the mountains, played over there in Wyoming, obviously in Buffalo, huge hands.
Huge. Huge hands.
But it's been a not that Lamar isn't used to it at this point. And then you talk about the Texans going to Kansas City.
When Miami went to Kansas City, it was just a different ball game. I don't think Houston has the same softness as the Miami Dolphins team does.
D'Amico Ryans has a little different group of boys down there traveling up to Kansas City, but that'll certainly play into it as well. And from what we're hearing, there's a little tae voodoo going on.
Which we haven't even added to the graphic, which we should, because Taylor Swift's aura is certainly a part of the weather climate. Yeah, and even for the Buffalo game, like you mentioned, we looked earlier on the insights on NFL Plus Premium's NFL Pro, and the B bills are also one of the top teams when it comes to the jumbo personnel they bring in spank brown uh number 70 so it's almost like that game is going to be kind of favored for both of them with this weather it might just be a grounded path but then the other thing that we saw was in chuck pagano mentioned this yesterday i believe that the bills stay in nickel personnel and they kind of brought that up in those kind of graphics that we saw about the game.
Yeah, no matter what. No matter what, they kind of stay in it, and the Ravens kind of roll with Ricard and their jumble personnel.
And I believe the thing that I saw was Todd Munkin used it 16 times during the wild card round against the Texans last week. And so if they continue to do that, especially with the kind of Bills not changing their defense, like Chuck mentioned, they'll just roll it out there no matter what, then the Ravens might just run wild.
But again, like the Bills, they can do it as well because they use the jumbo. We love the thought of power football.
And that is why all season, you know, the conversation is like, oh, this team looks good. This team looks good.
But when push comes to shove, are they going to be able to win late in December, January to make it to February football? And it always revolves around the line. It always revolves around a style of play.
Now, granted, unless there's more teams with warmer climates that are going to start getting to home field and start getting seated higher, which we don't think is going to be possible, especially with the Chiefs existing, especially with Lamar existing, especially with Josh Allen existing. You name it.
And now, granted, Detroit is the perfect place for anybody to play because it's perfect conditions. It's also the perfect place for the Detroit Lions to play with the way they play offense.
But to get to the Super Bowl, which is going to be perfect climate normally, you're going to have to play some tough, tough ball. Does your team have it or not? That's what you should be thinking all offseason.
Can our team win during the regular season? Who cares? Who cares? Can you win and win it matters? Because inevitably only one team is going to have a happy offseason. The rest of the 31 teams are going to be miserable.
And if you get in one of these big time games that you've been dreaming of, you've been hoping for, and you just get smacked in the mouth because you're not tough enough, a la, don't want to keep referencing this, the Miami Dolphins? Yes. That is not a good way to end the season.
That almost takes your hope away for future seasons more than a team that didn't even make it to the playoffs. It's like, well, even if we make it, we got no shot.
Massive four games. Can't wait to hang out on Saturday with the NFL, Sunday with the NFL,fl and then the college football national championship on monday football is on fire let's talk about some drama conversations narrative being built jason witten was asked about potentially being the head coach of the dallas cowboys he said no comment now do you say no comment because he's not the best public speaker as we learned on monday night football it makes sense potentially but then there's another guy that's potentially going to the Dallas Cowboys.
His name is Deion Sanders. We'll be talking to friend and family, basically, of primetime in the second hour in Pac-Man Jones, friend of the program.
Hell yeah. He obviously is close with Deion.
Deion was actually on the Pac-Man Jones show a month ago or two months ago and was basically laughing at the idea of him leaving Colorado. Now, I don't think at the time he understood what options were available, and I don't think he's gotten a call from Jerry Jones at that time to potentially come be the head coach of the Cowboys.
Now, we're starting to hear some rumors, you know. NIL money has run dry, potentially, in Colorado.
He's asked for more money to raise for his assistant coaches in this entire thing over there at Colorado. So now he's chit-chatting about these things getting released pretty similar to what was happening at Jacksonville State when it was like, hey, we weren't able to get this.
We weren't able to get this. Now Colorado, we're not able to have enough NIL money.
We're not able to have enough money to pay the assistant coaches. There's a lot of rumors coming out now from Colorado.
I don't want to say justifying a move to the Dallas Cowboys because I don't think he has to do that. Dallas Cowboys head coaching job is one that any college coach would probably take if they were offered it.
But prime to the Dallas Cowboys feels a lot more real now than it ever has, Ty. Yeah, without a doubt.
And I think, you know, I mean, to Deion's credit, like that's what you would do is, you know, he went to Colorado and kind of gave him the chance. It's like, hey, I want more money, you know, for my staff and for the NIL and all that kind of stuff.
And if you are Colorado, and I understand, you know, maybe the money's not there, maybe it's not available, but you see all this Cowboys stuff come out, you know, like, hey, that's a very enticing job. You know, his relationship with Jerry.
So Dion kind of gave them every opportunity to be like, hey, you know what? Nope. You are our guy.
You've turned this culture around. We'll give you whatever you need to continue to succeed.
And if they weren't able to do that now, it seems like it is just going to take Jerry, you know, flying his helicopter to Dallas or, you know, where Dion lives in Texas or wherever Dion's at and say, hey, okay, what do I need to do to kind of get this thing done? Yeah, it's fascinating that we're starting to learn this, that this is getting leaked out there. Because now it's like...
Hold on. It feels real.
It does. It feels very real about Deion Sanders going to the Dallas Cowboys.
And every new piece of information that we hear about off-the-field stuff, it's like, wait a minute, is he starting to look around and be like, should I stay here? Yeah. Suns aren't there anymore.
And I do love Texas. And this is what people have been saying.
Yeah. Basically, since the beginning of Prime getting to Colorado, saying, hey, when his kids aren't there, is it going to be a different animal? Now he gets the number one recruit in the country to come play quarterback.
Perfect timing. You know, the whole thing.
Pass the keys. And I genuinely think that Prime was staying at Colorado.
And Jerry calls him up and says, we have an opening. You've already proven to be a good coach.
You've already proven to be able to build a culture. You know this organization.
You know this family. Feels like that is the biggest asset that Prime has versus all these other candidates that could potentially be going to Dallas.
Now, Dallas Cowboys are interviewing Kellen Moore, offense coordinator for the Philadelphia Eagles, who Troy Aikman referenced whenever he did his Monday night football kickoff show diatribe about the Dallas Cowboys, not really being that coveted of a job, and him thinking that Mike McCarthy was going to continue to be the head coach. Troy Aikman said, obviously, I have a lot of love for the Cowboys.
I played there for 12 years. We had a lot of success, but I don't know if this is really a place that people want to go anymore.
With the way it's run, with the way it's operated, he said that Kellen Moore was forced on a big Mike McCarthy. He said big Mike McCarthy was actually told Kellen Moore is going to be your your offensive coordinator so obviously the jones family loves kellen moore he's been there before him and dak get along very well and also he'll be a guy that won't you know these young guys getting a first head coaching job i'm not saying kellen moore won't have any ideas or opinions but it's very easy to control manipulate i don't want to no yeah i don't put these negative connotations on it first time head coach young lad guide this is very much like uh hey boy this is what we're doing this is how we're doing it as opposed to you get a veteran coach that comes in there he's going to have some ideas and thoughts and disagreements you know it's just like what happened potentially although it was never confirmed doug peterson in philadelphia doug peterson gets a head coaching job at phil you just coached the team.
We're going to run everything else. Then Doug Peterson has a lot of success.
Then Doug Peterson starts having his own ideas, opinions, and allegedly, behind the scenes, that all kind of blew up. He takes a year off.
He ends up down in Jacksonville. He has since been fired.
But the thought was that whenever they hired Doug Peterson in Philadelphia, they could kind of control the entire operation. Ownership, Lori, Howie, the whole thing.
And then whenever Doug started getting a little bit more... Matthew.
Yeah. This guy's getting a little chatty.
And then it became a little bit of a problem. You know, down there in Jerry world, is there a chance that Kellen Moore gets the opportunity as opposed to Prime or as opposed to Witten? Mostly because they know what he's been able to do with that offense.'ve seen him they know him and they also know that kellen moore's going to be very thankful for the opportunity so anything that happens other than that he's not going to have any issues with there's a chance that's why this cowboys job is so like kind of held in high regard is because you're going to be on prime time every single week everybody's going to know you you're going to have tours through the building you got to have somebody that understands that place to get that job is Kellen the guy that understands it enough and also he's down with just being controlled uh and not having any say in a lot of stuff yeah and I believe when he did leave Dallas they didn't want him to like when Kellen ended up leaving it wasn't one thing where Jerry wanted that to happen kind of wanted to keep him but that's why it feels like Dion almost feels like it makes more sense if it does end up you know coming to an interview and all those things because he is kind of that guy that gets all those things he likes all the media and things like that that jerry does and it kind of feels like deon can speak to jerry the way that jerry would kind of need to hear certain things like troy kind of made the entire point of you need someone who's going to tell Jerry no sometimes or at

least kind of battle back and forth

with them and if they do want to have somebody

that you can kind of just guide and let Jerry

steer the ship absolutely Kellen makes

sense especially because he's been there but like

Dion I feel like understands the star

more than anybody else because of the fact that he

played there had success there and also I assume

Steven growing up fan of Dion

Jerry Jr. JJ who we're just now learning of probably loves him j jones jr yep triple j triple j that's a great name we need to learn more about triple j jerry jones jr down there probably grew up watching prime you know like and i think there's even a commercial that was back in the day where jerry jones saying get me prime or something like that how much he has respect for Deion Sanders.
So if Steven, Jerry, and Jerry Jr. are all fans of somebody, that obviously puts it into a respect level and then also puts Prime in a position where he can say to Steven, like, hey, Steven, we need to be doing it.
Hey, Jerry, maybe this. Maybe this to Jerry Jones Sr.
The whole aspect of Prime going there makes more and more sense the more you talk about it, the more you think about it. Sucks for Colorado.
For sure. Especially with everything they were able to build there, the culture shift that happened there, everything.
The all eyes on Boulder, beautiful place. Absolutely gorgeous place.
But in reality, not a lot of college coaches would be turning down an opportunity to be the Dallas Cowboys head coach, especially if you have a lot of history there and you became a Hall of Famer, basically, because of a lot of the work that you did for the Dallas Cowboys. Joining us now might be a man who has more information on the situation, senior NFL insider for ESPN, Adam Schefter.
Yeah, Schefter. Schefter, hey, how are you doing, brother? Thank you for joining us.
We're talking about the Cowboys situation with Prime because this is a sports media dream, but it's also a massive college football story. It's a massive NFL story.
There's a precedent story. There's a lot going on here.
What do you think the reality of the situation is down there in Dallas? Prime has real opportunity. Witten has real opportunity.
Kellen has real opportunity. Who's making decisions? How do you end up seeing this working out, you think, Shefty? Well, Jerry's team.
So I think it starts with Jerry. And I think we go from there.
And I think Kellen Moore is somebody that knows that system, knows that organization, knows that culture, gets along great with Dak. I think there's a lot there that tells you that Kellen Moore is going to be in play for this job.
And if Jerry Jones wants to take a big swing and go for Dion,

go pay the buyout, which, again, I don't think he'd be thrilled about doing,

or ways to navigate that.

Maybe he has Netflix partner up with him to help take on some of the costs,

not that Jerry can't afford it or anything.

But I don't think that that $10 million buyout is completely insignificant in this particular occasion. So we'll see.
They've got Robert Sala today. They're talking to him, the former New York Jets head coach, Kellen Moore, Leslie Frazier coming up here.
Those are the known candidates so far. Deion's always there.
Jerry knows where to find him. Deion knows where to find Jerry.
Deion was planning to go snowmobiling in Colorado this weekend, although I was told it's supposed to be as cold as it's ever been there this weekend, so I don't know if his snowmobile plans are still on in the mountains. We'll see if he's tough enough to go do that or not.
So, Dallas, again, Dallas is on its own time schedule here. The people, the candidates that the Cowboys are pursuing seem to be different than the candidates that most other teams have on their horizon and their radar.
So it's not like Dallas needs to rush to go make a decision. Jerry Jones will be able to go through his process, think about it.
And by the way, I'm sure during the course of this, he'll probably change his mind a couple of times. One day feel a certain way, another day feel a different way.
But he'll have enough of a foundation to make what he believes is the best decision for the Dallas Cowboys. That's Jerry Jones football.
Also, Jerry Jones football didn't make his decision about Mike McCarthy until after Vrabel was already hired at another spot. So didn't even get a chance to interview, which a lot of people think was the number one coach in this entire hiring cycle he's already gone to new england which was seemingly already in the stars to begin with um last thing here about the dallas cowboys before we pivot off anywhere else coach sala i know there's only 32 head coaching jobs i don't know how many years he had left on his contract with the jets when he got fired he's not signing up to join another family business is he doesn't that you know with how that whole thing worked out in new york is there a thought about that is it still a coveted job by people that are outsiders to the dallas cowboys kellen in there prime in there witten in there leslie frazier i don't know what his history is over there and once again remember prime and zimmer have a relationship zimmer current defense coordinator for the dallas cowboys.
Is there still an idea that if you're an outsider for the Cowboys, you want to go into Jerry World and coach for that team? Oh, I think people would love to go coach the Dallas Cowboys. And by the way, those are all the names we also have.
In that organization, I think the Jones family has a pretty high opinion of Brian Schrian schottenheimer the offensive coordinator and i don't think anybody's interviewing him so if they were in a spot well that's another name that you'd look at i think of anthony lynn in washington i know a lot of people have showered attention on cliff kingsbury but anthony lynn is in charge of washington's run game has been a head coach, has worked for Jerry Jones before.

So I think there are even more candidates in the background that haven't been mentioned yet that gives Jerry a certain sense of comfort that he doesn't have to rush.

There are a group of people that he likes, respects, trusts, believes in, whether that's Kellen Moore or Robert Sala or Deion Sandersers or they go on and they consider guys like brian schottenheimer anthony lynn so there are a lot of guys out there that would fit the bill and yes pat i think people would love to be the head coach of the dallas cowboys love to be there are 32 32 head coaching jobs and there's one job that is the head of the circus in Dallas. And that's what that is right now.
Didn't sound like you said Ben Johnson's name. His name also in the list of being the top coaching candidate.
I don't know if he's just intrigued to go jump into the Dallas circus. But they'll find their guy.
We assume they will. We assume they'll be able to.
I don't expect Ben Johnson to be in play in Dallas.

I think Jerry has other ideas.

I think Ben Johnson has other ideas.

And don't think that he's a logical leading candidate there right now.

Not because of his coaching.

But he's getting a head coaching job.

He is getting one.

He's just not going to be in Dallas.

Okay, so where's he going to get a head coaching job at?

Well, I know everybody's got Ben Johnson anointed to the Raiders. I'm not in that camp right now, so I have to believe it before I see it.
Jacksonville. No, we're not just going to start listing off Jacksonville, maybe.
Just look at the eyes. Here's my question.
Again, I don't know where he's going to go. He's going to have, I think, three realistic options.
But why is everybody ignoring Chicago when it comes to Ben Johnson? Why has that been just dispelled? I don't get it. What am I missing here? I think we all think the Chicago Bears organization is shite.
So whenever we hear that Ben Johnson, not that that's, we're not saying that's, that's just, it seems like it's a bit of a shite show. That is what it seems like.
So whenever we hear Ben Johnson, we think back to last year when Ben Johnson was like, I'm going to be very picky about where I go because he has options. Be who you can afford to be.
Okay. So, so if you're going to be very picky and again, I know that this Raiders freight train is gathered a whole lot of steam and I don't want to slow it down.
by the way I want to say for the record it could happen he could be the coach there but I am not just convinced just yet that that's going to be the way it's going to be when we're talking about picking situations if you're picking the Raiders you're telling me that Ben Johnson turned down the chance to go coach Jaden Daniels last year. Turn that down so he can go to a place this year in Las Vegas without a top pick, without a quarterback, that plays in a division with Patrick Mahomes, Justin Herbert, Bo Nix, Andy Reid, Jim Harbaugh, Sean Payton.
Does that make sense to you? No, it doesn't. Whenever you lay it out that way, no, it is not.
I'm just wondering. I'm just laying it out there like that.
Then you talk about the NFC North, though. He knows what the NFC North is, so Chicago, if we want to play that game, now granted, they have Caleb Williams, TBD on whether or not he'll be a great NFL quarterback or just a great NFL prospect in the entirety of it all.
He's already been through two offense coordinators. Sucks for him.
Ben Johnson gets in there and maybe lays it down. But the NFC North, you got Kevin O'Connell, you got MCDC.
And then obviously the thought of him going in and having to take on Jared Goff in the floor, obviously, but having to take on the juggernaut that he helped create up there in Detroit every single year two times. Then you start nitpicking on that decision.

Then you go to Jacksonville.

It's like the AFC South.

The AFC South is a juggernaut too, Shefty.

You know that.

You know that.

So he's going to have a show.

My only point here is I think there's been this overreaction in the media

to anoint Ben Johnson to Las Vegas when Jacksonville and Chicago are still in play. That's all I'm saying.
Okay. We'll write it down.
We'll put it on a SeatGeek ticker. We'll put it on a SeatGeek ticker and we will remind everybody via words across the bottom of the screen, Ben Johnson in Las Vegas is not a guarantee, says Adam Schefter even though by the way he's he still could wind up out there i'm not saying he's not and i'm just i'm not willing to anoint them the favorites right now ben johnson to the raiders is not a guarantee says adam schefter parentheses could happen though yeah bingo parentheses i think that that's accurate reporting there.
Okay, got it.

That's everything in the NFL world.

Let's talk about the New England Patriots having to make some hires.

Go ahead, Con Man.

Yeah, Shafti Vrabel searching for an OCDC.

Is there any liens right now?

Who are they interviewing?

Because I really haven't heard much out of that camp.

And also, could you see a possible former head coach like Salah or even a Doug Peterson kind of take that role as an OC or DC because they don't want to be a head coach again? Well, Mike Vrabel's got so many connections. Yeah, he does.
And such history with so many people. And he's the first guy hired.
He's going to be able to assemble his staff. But like with anybody, any hiring, you have to go through the process.
You have to do your diligence on all these different candidates. You have to make sure that it's the right move.
You're not rushing into anything. And honestly, now that they have their head coach, the next most important hire that the Patriots make will be who are they hiring to influence, mold, and shape the future of their franchise quarterback.
It's a critical hire. Again, we've heard the name Josh McDaniels.
I think that that name makes an awful lot of sense. It would be logical.
He's in the Foxborough area. But I think Mike Vrabel has got to hear from a lot of different people and make sure that he feels like he's doing the right thing before he goes and hires whoever he does for that head coaching job got it because you know in our mind we just kind of start piecing vrabel to different people and hirings it's like well he and artie smith did a lot of great things together down there in tennessee artie smith actually came up through the vrabel camp i do believe how he got there there.
Now, Artie Smith obviously still with the Pittsburgh Steelers, so how does that whole thing work out? And Artie Smith getting head coaching interviews, I do believe. Josh McDaniels obviously a possibility because of the history, especially up there in that whole thing.
Yeah, Josh McCown's been linked because of the connection with Drake May in high school. Josh McCown's going to be in Minnesota next year unless he gets a head coaching job.
Okay, let's stay in Minnesota. Ty has a question for you.
Unless he gets a head coaching job. Unless he gets a head coaching job.
Is that possible or no? You think Josh McCown high up on some lists? Yeah, well, no. Listen, you know, if you remember a couple of years back, he was very much in a discussion in Houston, and then the Texans went a different direction.
And I think Josh McCown's going to be a head coach one day. I don't know that it's going to be this year or next year or the year after.
But I think he's going to get a chance at some point in time. And look, if we're going to be honest here, the interesting thing about this whole cycle right now, and I've said it to you before, I've said it to you this week, I'll say it again.
Aaron Glenn and Ben Johnson are getting head coaching jobs. They're getting head coaching jobs.

The interesting part is the other four jobs.

That's what we need to pay attention to here.

Because I don't know that we can say with any clear-cut certainty who candidate number three is.

Who's the third guy after Glenn and Johnson those guys are getting jobs there's two of the six who are the other four is it Robert Sala is it Brian Flores is it Josh McCown is it Joe uh Joe Brady like who is it Mike McCartney is it Jason Deion Sam? There's a lot of guys out there. But it's going to be a question of which organizations prefer which guy.
The only two guys I feel confident right now in saying they're getting jobs are Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn. Aaron Glenn's going back to the Jets, right? That seems like the very easy selection.
I think Aaron Glenn is in play in New York. I think he's in play in New Orleans.
I think he's in play in Las Vegas if he wants. So, there's a lot of people.
There's a lot of places I think Aaron Glenn will be interested in. Shout out to MCDC.
His coaching tree is going to be a great one. Gotta win a Super Bowl, boys.
Let's go. No, no, no.
We're worried about future jobs, brother. Okay.
We're worried about future jobs. Playoffs.
Okay. Yeah, of course.
That's Aaron Glenn and Ben Johnson. They're locked in.
That's why they are so highly regarded. But let's talk about Josh McCown and let's talk about Minnesota.
Ty has a question for you. Yeah, Shefty, what's going on with KOC up there? We heard the reports from Jake Laser a couple weeks ago saying,

hey, there were talks that they might trade Kevin O'Connell

because he only had one year left on his deal

and they hadn't got anything done yet.

And then he said he's had a great dialogue with the owners and everything.

But what exactly is happening there?

And why hasn't he been extended yet when you look at his body of work is he getting traded is it possible i i don't see him getting traded um i think that the will family is going to want to hold on to him he's going to be entering the last year of his deal i think teams that have coaches who they've identified as their future don't typically let guys go into the last year of their deal. And so I would imagine at some point in the coming days, weeks, whatever it may be, that the Will family and Kevin O'Connell sit down and figure out an extension.
Now, they didn't get one done this season. And to me, the price on Kevin O'Connell rose because of the type of year that he had and because of the type of recognition that I think everybody showered on him.
They see the kind of person he is and they see the kind of impact he's had and the culture he's created. And I think we all know how important that is for any head coach in the NFL.
And he's done that there in Minnesota. And I expect that he's going to be rewarded for it this offseason.
What's it going right for a high-end NFL coach? Is that like $10 million to $15 million a year? Well, I mean, look, I think the salary is gross generalizations, but I think typical first-year salaries have been about $8 million, $9 million. I think guys in the middle tier, you know, $11 million, $12 million, $13 million, and then the top tier, we're talking about $17 million, $18 million, $19 million a year, $9 million.
I think guys in the middle tier, 11, 12, 13, and then the top tier, we're talking about $17, $18, $19 million a year, $20 million a year. So Kevin O'Connell's getting $17 to $20 million a year.
Yes. Listen, he's going to get as much as he can get.
I don't know. His last deal, his first deal, I think, if my memory serves me correct, he's under $.
I'm going to guess he's around seven. So the next deal, I think, would get him in the, I don't know, the low teens maybe? Like the Wilfs may be watching this and be like, what? Is he out of his mind? But you know what? If Kevin O'Connell wants to play it out.
17, 18, there's a lot of open jobs right now. You're talking Aaron Glenn, Ben Johnson, you who number three would be? Kevin O'Connell.
He'd be number one. Yeah, exactly.
Here's what you have to figure. If the Wilts don't step up and give him what we all would agree, in an objective way is a fair offer, then Kevin O' could say I'm not gonna sign that and then he goes into the last year of his contract and he's a coaching free agent next year and if you're a coaching free agent do it what would Kevin O'Connell get on the open market you're asking me I would say Kevin O'Connell would get 20 well first of all we have to see next year goes, but if he had the kind of season next year that he did this past year, my guess is Kevin O'Connell's in the 12-14 million dollar year range.
Sounds like you're trying to help out the Wolf family here publicly, and I respect that. I appreciate what you're doing here.
This guy won 14 games this season with a quarterback getting paid $13 million who's never had success before. The year before, he had to pasture not play quarterback.
It's like, that guy's the guy. He won 13 a couple years ago.
And then we see the clip of him in the locker room chewing out his team, too. It's like, this guy.
Listen, I'm a huge Kevin O'Connor. I think he's one of the best coaches in the league.
He's one of the best installers of culture. But, again, I'm not going to make a debate on it.
I'm just telling you, that's my opinion. That's all I'm going to say.
I think that's the open market. That's what I think you get.
I like that. I'm not going to start stating why he wouldn't get the top price because I'm a huge Kevin O'Connell fan.
That's what I think it would be. Sheffy's like, I'm not going to start negotiating against Kevin O'Connell here publicly.
I'm just letting you know. After my 30 years of experience in this business, this is what? 35.
Okay, sorry. All right, well, Kevin O'Connell, go get it, bro.
Yeah, go get it. 20 mil, Kev.
You deserve it, bro. That's it.
Go get it. Hey, get what's fair.
That's all I'm saying for everybody, right? Everybody should get what's fair. All parties.
How we all win. And also, Kevin O'Connell, I think, takes a lot of pride in the fact that he's been able to do this with the Minnesota Vikings.
I think he loves that organization. I think he's very appreciative.
Brian Flores being a defense coordinator is a big deal with that entire thing. He might be gone.
How does he fill that spot in? There's a lot of question marks over there. Who's our quarterback? I mean, there is a lot to figure out in Minnesota.
The head coach is obviously one of them. Any updates right there? You get an update right there? Is that a news? Nothing of any significance right now.
Crop news. Opposite crop news.
Jack Del Rio's coaching in Paris. Is that the text that you just got? I knew that one was going to send shockwaves to the NFL.
Just a little dust up over there. Good luck against Ryan Fire and Tom Sula.
From what we know about Jack... I'm telling you right now, I got my Paris Musketeers jersey.
I am ready to rock this off the floor. When you go over there, you're going to need your nose plugs, too, because those people smell so bad.
They need one of these, not a thousand of these. Jack Del Rio is going to be praying to God that Dove sends a million whole-body DOs over there.
Great, beautiful culture. Beautiful culture.
Beautiful city. Beautiful city.
Beautiful. Got a chance to go over there.
Obviously love it. But boy, your nose really starts talking to your brain saying, this place stinks.
Because it actually does. Jack Del Rio, everything we know about him, dust up and all that, I don't know how it's going to fit.
He's perfect for playing. I'm excited for him, though.
More football overseas is great for the game. Thankful that he's doing it.
Good luck over there. To your point, though, the Ryan Fire are a problem.
Yeah, Jim Tomsula, I believe they went back to back. What? Yeah, dog.
The Chiefs over there. Yeah, they are.
First time since the Amsterdam Admirals with Adam Benataric go three straight. I mean, that's a whole story in of itself.
The EuroLeague was sick. That was awesome.
Might have been shoes back. Yeah, maybe.
Especially if Jack Del Rio is going over. Sorry we're taking up all your time here.
Why is Jim Tomsula getting another crack? Mostly because I think they decided he's just going overseas. Let's just keep his ass overseas.
We found where he's at. Let's come back to America.
Let's go to a town that built all the other towns. Bingo.
All of them. Steel.
The home of steel. You see your building? You're welcome.
From Pittsburgh. Tone has a question for you.
Yeah, Shefty, earlier this week you were on, and I believe you told us the quote where Tomlin said he imagines change coming on a lot of levels. How much change we've had so far? Zero.
Donuts. Now, I don't want to call...
Huh? A few days, Tone. It's a few days.
I don't want to call for anyone's job, but when are the heads going to roll? You know what? Again, the offseason's young. Let's give this some time.
I don't know exactly what they're going to do, but the head coach himself said what he said. I just think he was speaking in a general term.
I'm not expecting major, major changes. What we think is gonna happen I think it's typical of any roster in any given year turns over however much it does there are some changes on the coaching staff like I don't know that it's gonna be any more dramatic in Pittsburgh than it is anywhere else like the head coach is back the GM's back the owners back we have two quarterbacks who are free agents that That's a big question mark going forward.
You got a running back who's a free agent, who's been very good. Who do you want to fire? Everyone.
Top to bottom. Tone wants like Transfer Portal, NIL.
I need 50 new guys in here. That's what Tone wants.
TJ can stay Going to have to figure that out. He's actually on his final year of his contract.
Going to have to figure that whole thing out. There's a couple other guys we don't mind.
Trade for Josh Allen, too. I don't know if Bean's going to do that.
I don't know if Bean's going to do that, but that's where the Pittsburgh Steelers fans are. They're like, hey, something drastic has to happen.
We were told something drastic is going to happen, and every time they wake up and nothing has happened, get more mad that's the ends of football that's how it is and then they're going to go in the next season believing they could potentially win a super bowl yeah and it's going to be about five six weeks in and they're going to go we're so fucking stupid we thought this was going to work yet again yeah that's the cycle that is the cycle of steelers fans and i can i can feel it for him too Because Colts haven't won AFC South in more than 10 years, 11 years now. Haven't even had a chance.
And they've paid people at every position. People are going through their second contracts here in this culture and haven't won fucking anything.
So a lot of people are wondering what the hell is going on. Next year, I think, is the year.
I think it is the year. But I don't think Colts fans are even envious of Steelers fans.
They make it into the playoffs. They have a winning season every single year, and then they get dumped.
So their draft picks are always – I don't want to say crop because it's still a first-rounder, but it's never really good. It's not enough failure to make any changes, wholesale changes.
Just kind of got to put some Band-Aids on. But I think you guys are going to figure it out this offseason.
I agree. There's a lot happening this potential offseason, including a friend of ours, Shefty.
Ty has a question for you. Yeah, Shefty, on Wednesday we had Dan Orlovsky on the show, and in so many words he basically said, hey, listen, coaching is my calling.
I'm ready to kind of throw my hat into the ring here and see what's going on. Have you heard his name heating up at all in terms of quarterback coach openings, offensive coordinator openings, or anything like that? Because, like I said, he basically said, hey, your time is up.
My time is now. I'm ready.
That's John Cena, what he just said there, basically. Yeah, I think Dan's been talking to some teams and seeing if there's something that interests him and is worthwhile for him.
I'll let him answer that right now. Well, he did.
He did a full coaching interview on our show. Started breaking it all down.
And then after our show, he said, I did get a text from another team and another potential coaching candidate saying, hey, am I being real?

It does feel like he's being serious this time. I don't know if that's

because of what's going on TV business

wise or if this is just another year of thinking about

it. It feels like...

I think Dan aspires to

be a head coach in time

and that's what he'd like to do.

He's been talking to people to see if

there's a spot that would

work for him. It's not automatic.
He does a great job on TV and obviously he could stay in TV and do that for the rest of his career if that's what he wanted. But I think at his core, I think he misses being a part of a football team.
And if the right football team came along and spoke his language and said the right things and presented the right opportunity, I think he'd go be a quarterback's coach with the idea that he would try to start moving up the coaching ladder in time um i think he's 41 i think he'd like to be a head coach here like like a lot of people in in the coming years and at some point in time he'd like to start moving up that career so um again we'll see how he handles it, his life, whether he wants to do TV or coaching. It sounds like he's going to have opportunities to join football teams if that's what he wants.
Is that Dan Orlovsky saying, keep my name out of your mouth? Is that what that was? Don't you talk about me and my family. Is he not on the NFL live team?

Yeah, that's what he said.

He wants to be a part of a team the other day.

I'm like, I'm so lucky that we have this.

You know, where we do feel like we're part of a team.

There is some.

What is that?

Is that Dan Orlovsky or is that a team saying,

is Dan Orlovsky being for real?

We want to make him our OC.

Nope.

Nope.

But it's real.

You're still looking.

Certainly something. What was it? What was it? Tweet it, then say it.
Yeah, you can tweet it to your whole fucking song and dance. Thanks, Pat.
We'll read your Twitter. We'll do the whole thing.
We'll do the whole thing. No tweets coming.
No incoming tweets. Huh.
What was that? That seemed like you were pretty joyful, though. Did somebody send you a picture or something like that? Something happening.
Just something. Oh! It's something.
Just something, season. It's just something, season.
Was that related to work right there? No. Not NFL.
Oh. Not NFL.
College ball. Deion Sanders.
Is that what that is? High school football. Dan might not be the only one who has people talking to you about joining a team.
I'm just telling him. Okay, you do the words? You're going to go be a general manager of a college football team? What a move that would be by you.
Just wheeling and dealing. And let me tell you this.
If there's any college teams that are offering you any position in the football world before you sign anything to anybody we at west virginia would like to chat with you we would like to potentially get your resources into morgantown if you're going to go anywhere your family would love living on sheet lake oh my god it would be fantastic nonetheless uh last thing here and we know you're taking we're taking up a lot of your Friday, so we appreciate you joining us. So, Bloomberg, Roger Goodell did a Bloomberg article, and there's a lot of things that came out of it.
Pro Football Talk's Mike Florio was talking about the 18-game season being the logical next step. Obviously, this is not the first time that Roger Goodell has chatted about this.
If you could take a minute 15 with us here, Schefter, to hear the conversation that I had with Roger at the NFL Draft then give us your thoughts afterwards we'd be very grateful run it Foxy now the NFL PA is always going to fight against having more games is there a plan to continue to expand because 17 games feels good now like at the beginning I think a lot of players and I don't want to talk for in the locker room there's probably a lot of offense alignment and things like that are telling me to shut the hell up but as as fans it's like 17 games has just become like status quo is there a thought of adding another one maybe adding another bye week so we can get more exposure more tv deals or where are we good at 17 right now well i i think we're good at 17 now but listen we're looking at how we continue i'm not a fan of the preseason i i don't think we need waste of time right and energy i don't buy and energy. I don't buy it, and I don't think these guys like it either.
Well, they have to spend full price for the tickets for those games. No, they're actually discounted now.
Thank you for doing that. We got that done.
Thank you. Thank you.
That's all your commitment. That's all your commitment.
Thank you, commitment. But the reality is, you know, I think I'd rather replace a preseason game with a regular season any day.
That's just picking quality, right? So if we got to 18-2, that's not an unreasonable thing. The other thing it does, which I thought you were going to, is that ends up on President's Day weekend, which is a three-day weekend, which makes it Sunday night, and then you have Monday off.
So that's – Wow. Now we're cooking.
See? Now we're cooking. cooking okay so he said he already has visions of what the schedule would look like we'd have monday off after the super bowl which everybody has been yearning for for a long long time he said i don't like the preseason game okay it's more opportunity for injuries nobody really doesn't matter so shortening the preseason game seems like it's been on goodell's mind for a while adding the 17th game as as it happens, we all said, well, we're going to get to 18 then.
He said in a Bloomberg article, now it's being reported about yet again. What have you heard from around the league and what do you think the chances are moving and when would that be? Next CBA? Well, in all honesty, did he say anything there that we didn't know? Like, again, I'm going to tell you, right, it's going to happen.
Exactly what he said. Like, everybody knows this is coming.
We're going to get 18 games. We're going to get the Sunday night Super Bowl before President's Day.
Everybody takes off President's Day, becomes the national holiday that it is. The short and pre...
Like, I mean, this is stuff that everybody's talked about. The only question is, when does it begin? Right? Like, is that in two years? Is it right before the end of the CBA? Is it right at the start of the new CBA? I don't know, but 18-game schedule season's coming.
The prolonged season's coming. More international games come.
There's nothing here that's surprising at all. Right? What am I missing? Well, I mean, actually confirming it would be a...
a, it's all been like kind of in jest hypothetical. If they're NFL.
It's coming. It's coming.
Or there's greedy corporate fat cats. And if you add an extra bye week, now you've got two more weeks of primetime games to be able to sell to networks.
And the amount of money that that'll do and bring in for the salary cap is how they sell it to the players. And everybody else would be gigantic.
So I could see it certainly taking not selling sold sold it's coming okay all right i don't know how the players feel about it how about the nflpa is firing or laying off 150 employees how many fucking employees they got over that's crazy too many who's taking all the damn money at the nflpa i've never been an nflpa supporter okay never in my life i thought they've been like i'm not gonna say crooks but like dumb i think the way they've gone about doing things has been very dumb i mean you just go back to whenever they tried to negotiate the deal and jeff saturday had to step in and be like let's get a deal done not that jeff saturday isn't a great man or business band but it's like the nflpa i think has always handled things in a dumb way tough position to be in hard to represent everybody them firing 150 people it's like what did they all do and then also shout out to this nflpa maybe yeah trying to instead rob the players trying to actually make the players more money more opportunity i think we're in a good spot i think there's uh i think nflpa and hopefully commish are going to be able to come together and make this entire better for players and also for the league as a whole. Quick one there.
You just talked about international games. Connor has one for you.
Yeah, Shefty, Madrid this year, does that mean Ireland's probably coming in 2026 next season, or is there a chance that they also do Ireland for the first time and Spain for the first time this year? I don't know when Ireland's coming, but it's coming. I don't know whether it's 25 or 26, but it's coming.
It's just been enough. And I think it might be next season.
And they still have some more international announcements to make. They do it in layers and a progression.
And so Ireland still may be coming. The Dolphins will play the first ever regular season game in Madrid.
We got Berlin. The Colts playing the first regular season game in Berlin.
The first regular season game in Ireland is coming. I don't know the exact timing, but it's coming.
We've even heard that it'll be the Steelers and Packers, which I totally believe that's totally plausible. It's coming.
I'm not sure the exact year. I'm not saying that Madrid doesn't deserve it, because I'm sure that they are massive NFL fans.
When we were with DAZN, that was a big hotbed for the NFL licensing rights over there in Spain. Ireland would be bananas over there.
Oh, yeah. They love ball.
And there's more Irish guys coming into the NFL, I think, through punting and kicking. It's only going to continue to grow over there.
We're excited for that. We're excited for the future.
And we're appreciative of you stopping by on this Feel Good Friday, Shefty. Gentlemen, appreciate you all.
Have a great weekend. Enjoy the divisional playoff round.
Four great games. Looking forward to watching the games in the cold.
It'll be fun. Anybody, any news potentially breaking today? Anything? Zay Flowers didn't practice today.
That's not a great sign for his availability on Sunday night against the Buffalo Bills. Okay.
And Jeremy Fowler just reported Joe Tooney starting at left tackle for the Chiefs, so they're sticking with him at left tackle. That's interesting.
That's right where we are right now. Any news coming? There's always news coming, Pat.
Any good news coming, though? Yeah. Like talkable news?able news? We've got a couple hours left here.
I can't predict the future. I'm not Notre Dame.
I don't know. Call O's.
Yeah, why don't you call O's? Why don't you do that whole thing? He freaks me out still. He's had a Forbes article done about him.
It was cool. O's is getting pushed.
Yep. As he should.
That guy always shows up. He does.
Always blows minds. You see his rates? 10 million I heard he made off Forbes is what he told me.
He tried to tell me what his rate was whenever we tried to get him at the draft and that was a full on, okay, we're not doing that. That is not how this is going to go.
We got to work this thing out. He did good business with me, which I appreciate.
His people did good business with me. But if you're looking for somebody to blow the mind of anything, I mean, that's an easy.
Whatever he's charging, if you got it, 100% worth it for this demon to come into town and just ruin everybody. I will say this.
Of all the times I've been with him, of all the times I've traveled around with him, he's never not blown my mind. Did I tell you what happened with my father-in-law when we came back last year? Did I tell you that story? I don't know if I did.
You got 30 seconds if you want to retell it, though. So basically, we come back from Pittsburgh together.
He just performed for the Bills. He comes to my house.
My father-in-law, 85 years old. What are you doing? Mental is okay.
He goes, ah, do a trick on me. He goes, okay, where did you grow up? The Bronx.
Okay, I'm going to tell you the name of your neighbor. He goes, how do you know the name of my neighbor? He goes, does it have a B in it? And he guesses the name of his neighbor and the apartment number of my father-in-law.
My father-in-law was like, totally flat. How could that be? I don't know.
He's done some stuff to us, too, where he walked up to me, one through a hundred, thinking in your head right now, and then bang, bang, bang, boom. Got it.
Nailed it. Goes up to Darius J.
Butler, scrolls through his phone, through Darius Butler, picks a name in there. There's some things where it's like, I think I got him, and then there's other stuff where it's like, he's – this guy's a demon.
Yeah, how? We appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter.
We'll be back in hour two. AJ Hawk and more convo.
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Let's get them over with. Football! It's wonderful.
We're lucky to talk about it. The divisional round of the NFL kicks off tomorrow, and then the national championship for college ball is on Mondayay we're incredibly pumped and lucky to be a part in chit chat about all of it the toxic tables here at boston connor wearing a 7x and at ty schmidt you look great con man watch you get up during a break and take a walk it is like you have a dress on i think that was the first time that i've seen the uh just kind of what are those things uh poncho yeah sure it looks like you're kind of wearing a poncho without big that Yeah, we were talking about before the show.
I mean, I'm going to be sure cocking this thing on game day for the rest of my life. Without a doubt.
I'm very excited about this thing. It's a prized possession of mine.
I would compare it to the pasta jersey. And yeah, there's a chance I bring a couple booms in this thing going forward as well.
Hey, they put out their best one yet. Yes, they did.
I'm a little bit worried. Don't.
You can say it. No, you can't.
Because you're wrong.

I'm not going to say what you think I'm going to say.

Okay, thank God. What I'm going to say is,

you know, it was Lil' Costco's birthday the other day?

No. What? Really? I missed it.

I scrolled through. Well, they had

like a hundred people,

including like Mr. Beast and a bunch of other

people. Video in,

happy birthday, Lil' Costco, the whole thing.

We were not asked.

I feel like they think we're potentially not

Thank you. like Mr.
Beast and a bunch of other people video in happy birthday little Costco the whole thing we were not asked I feel like they think we're potentially not as in we're judging them properly when you bury Texas Roadhouse obviously we're going to have some opinions but whenever we're bringing the boom to you yeah that's just what we do yeah the new one I one? I mean, this might be the best one, yeah.

Got to make it through about 35 to 40 seconds to really get into the... Oh, okay, I see what they're doing there.

But I respect any professional wrestler that's got a gimmick, got a family bought in,

and then the entire world behind them.

I think I saw like two and a half, three million views on their most recent heavy metal.

No big deal.

No doubt.

We're talking pop, rap, now metal.

They do it all. Bringing the boom to you.
To you. That's just what we do.
We're bringing the boom to you. There it is.
Look at it. Boom.
I mean, it was. It's the best one.
And I don't know the... AMH, that band.
Yeah, I didn't know the band much. they got talent yeah they are very legit they cover songs as well they are awesome so you would think at the beginning of that i was a little bummed out about the band i'm like oh this is some band trying to jock trying to get a little rub sure from the boom boys sure from the boom costco boys and then you get about a minute in you're like oh band really good legit.
Really good. Legit.
And the singer has a great... He's like a Jack Black.
A Jack Black bitch. It's like AMH got a fan out of me from...
Boom! Funny enough, they actually do cover a pick of Destiny song. P.O.D.
Jack Black. Like you said, I think Jack Black's actually in the song with him.
It was a little collab.

He came and did it with him as well.

It makes sense. They are very good.
As I was listening

to it, I'm like, damn. Real talent.

I had no idea these people existed, but

that's just what they

do. We're bringing

the boom to you.

That's a banger. It is.
And Rizzler

kills his verse. One half of

the hammer. Die.
Cowboys AP Tone is here. Tone, what are the lines on the weekend? Pretty big.
Eight, nine, six and a half and one. Have any of those moved or are they all about big? They've all pretty much stayed the same from yesterday.
The Eagles line has moved a bit up to six and a half. That one was five and a half earlier in the week.
That's the only one that's really moved a ton. Yeah, the big lines on saturday a little bit smaller on sunday but for a divisional weekend yeah those are those are quite large eight and a half nine and a half especially if you think about the weather in kansas city you think that game might be tight but then also you could see patrick mahomes doing this one yep in this weekend there's some stats coming out about patrick mahomes in divisional round boy Gets a break.
Gets a chance to recalibrate. This is his divisional round operation resume.
6-0 and then 13 touchdowns, zero interceptions. It's like Patrick Mahomes is obviously a superstar.
And, you know, they say big-time players make big-time plays in big-time games. Patrick has done that the division around has been a cakewalk for this guy he's been able to figure teams out now last year they didn't have home field advantage so they had to go on the road they had to play in the division around a lot of the times are in the wild card run a lot of times they don't have to so they have two weeks andy reed's record with two weeks preparation and a week coming off a bye week.
Also very, very good, which is why they're so damn dangerous in the playoffs. And also, you know, this is the worst team that they've had.
I think it's the worst season. Number one seed, best record in the entire NFL.
Winning games, however they do it. The Chiefs is still the Chiefs.
Eight and a half, nine and a half, six and a half. Those are big numbers across the board.
Sportsbooks don't think this is going to be very close. Joining us now is a man who's been seeing the board pretty well.
He's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup winner, a man who has a tree on the campus of the Ohio State University because he was an All-American and he's All-Ohio. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J.
Hawk. Yeah, Hawker.
Hawker, 8.5, 9.5, 6.5. Those are big spreads for divisional weekend where there's only eight teams left, brother.
Yeah, this does feel like a bunch of points. As you pop that graphic up, I'm trying to figure out exactly what my final picks will be when we do make the picks for this weekend, but yeah, like when you show Patrick Mahomes' record, though, in the divisional round, that's a bit daunting, I think, if you're an opponent, but hey, Texans are up for the the task.
Let's see if they can figure it out. But, man, this dude is good.
Yeah, and, I mean, that's not even the biggest spread of the weekend. You know, you got the 9.5, obviously, coming second game of Saturday.
And that's Detroit Lions' favorite at home against this Washington Commanders team, who we all just assume that the Commanders fans would be A-OK if they lose this game. Like, we're way ahead of schedule.
We got brand-new ownership stadium coming we got a rookie quarterback obviously scary terry's still here but whole new operation the fact that we even won a wild card game all right we're happy going into the off season we can build on this we know what our culture is we know what our team is inside that locker room they're not saying that no inside the washington commander's locker room they're saying hey we're this could be our year we have no idea if this is ever going to show up again. We have no clue if we're going to be in division run.
You've got to take advantage of every opportunity. All the OGs that are in that building are trying to let the young bucks know, like Jaden Daniels, like, hey, this is not an every year thing.
This is very difficult to get to this situation. There's only eight teams left in the entire NFL.
25% of the team still playing. 75% planning their trips to Cancun.
Got to take advantage of this. So the fans, I think, would be okay if the Commanders lose this game and it's like, well, we had a good year.
We got something started. In the locker room, they're not saying that.
Nine and a half points is a lot of points for a playoff game, no matter who they're playing or where they're playing them. But this Detroit Lions team has not played with their food.
No. The Detroit Lions have pummeled people.
And they've been happy about it, too. Like, the standard's the standard.
This is how we play. If you don't want to score in and dance in, don't let us score or dance then.
Like, that is how the Detroit Lions are. Even though they're a tough physical team.
100%. They've been beating the shit out of teams all year long.
100%. I think they'll beat the shit out of them tomorrow.
If they do what Lambo said, they gotta control the tempo, ground and pound football, run the ball, control the clock, and then you cannot let Jaden Daniels run wild. And us having that bye week, I think, was absolutely huge, because our bye week in the regular season was like week five or week six, so those guys needed to get healthy, although we do not have Zeitler at guard.
That's going to be a killer. Okay, okay that is a big deal especially with how dominant the offensive line and how important that offensive line is especially middle of the pocket for jared goff because you know his i don't want to say old what people used to call him jared goof oh yeah and whenever there was pressure up there we didn't say that we were just observing report that's what they're saying that's what people were saying if that pressure is up the middle getting a little happy feet, all of a sudden now the offense isn't a fine-tuned machine like it has been all year.
Couldn't agree more, and we have a rookie filling in that space. They love this rookie, Christian Mahogany, out of Boston College.
Mahogany would. He actually scored a touchdown in college.
He did a keg stand celebration. MCDC saw that and said, I'll tell you what, man, offensive lineman doing a keg stand, how many of that has, Quentin Nelson did that, right? Penny Sewell probably did that.
Give me that guy. We don't know if he can play.
He can. He can, man.
We know he can. Have you ever done a keg stand, by the way? Not easy.
Because you've got to have pretty good shoulders, hold yourself up. Also, you're pretty capacitated, so you're going to be a little bit off.
You've got to have good teammates, too, though. You know, whoever's holding and got your legs.
That's a keg stand actually pretty important to showcase the team around you. And how much do they like this big guy? Well, he's gigantic, and the boy said, let me go ahead and get it.
Let me go ahead and get you. That was a quick little 4-5 seconder.
Obviously not going to turn any heads at a party, but certainly going to let people know you're down for a good time. And I respect and appreciate that.
Age, I assume when you went up for keg stands back in the day, the boys got a little bit riled up? Yeah, you know, you always need to have good teammates when it comes to that. You can't have some 125-pound dude on each leg saying, don't worry, bud, I got you.
Because, you know, you want to get up there a while. You want to put on a decent performance, I guess, if you're going if you're gonna do it you know i think i was pretty naive to the whole thing i just assumed that if you guys if you're hosting a keg party you wanted people to do keg stands yeah you remember when people used to like stand in front of their kegs and be like no we're not doing keg stands here you know just house only is i'll do keg stands it's like all right why don't you get out of the way let me like put on a show for the people.
Come on. Come on.
I'm going to stand upside down for like 30 seconds here.

It's going to be good for everybody.

You won't put your mouth all over our...

What's that thing called?

The pump?

The tap.

Tap.

Yeah, there it is.

You remember when Mitt tapped that?

Oh, yeah.

And say back.

Say back.

Green beer, yeah.

She's right in it.

Almost lost her mind.

I don't know how to do it.

Oh, my God.

Yeah, I got it.

I do this all the time with my buddies.

And we're like, we believe it.

We believe it.

Exactly.

What it turns out was it wasn't mid.

It was the buddies that were doing it.

Yeah.

And not everybody's a good tapper either.

Like, there is.

There's a skill.

There's a skill.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

There's a confidence you got to go.

Because if you half-ass at all, that thing's.

Yeah, you got to go full speed.

Yeah, you got to go all in on that thing.

So, you got a keg standard guard. I think they're going to be okay.
Yeah, AQ said he's good. He's just no Kevin Zeitler.
That was his breakdown. Uh-oh.
Yeah, but AQ said Philadelphia Eagles are the number one offensive line in the playoffs left. And then he said, but they're the sixth team out of eight teams left.
It's like, well, how much does the offensive line matter then, AQ? It's kind of going against everything we've been pitching. I got mad about it.
Your entire thing here, buddy, is that the offensive line wins games. But he just clearly hates the quarterback.
Yep. And Kellen Moore, who might be the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.
I don't know if you heard Adam Schefter talk about Paul McCartney's brother. Mike could potentially have a gig somewhere else after leaving the Dallas Cowboys.
But that Cowboys job, we'll be talking to Pac-Man here in about 19 minutes or so. He is very close with Coach Prime, so I'm excited to hear what he thinks.
I'm not saying he's talked to him yet, but I am excited to hear how he thinks it's all going to play out down there. Kellen Moore potentially going down there.
Salah getting interviewed. Leslie Frazier, I heard the name Anthony Lynn, which I don't think anybody would have expected to get a head coaching job this soon, but he has obviously had one time at it.
It wasn't great. Got a chance to continue to coach.
Great running back back in the day. Everybody loves him, the whole thing.
Maybe he gets another opportunity. How do you see his Dallas Cowboys situation kind of shaping up for Jerry Jones, old lamb man? I think it's the most interesting gig to take out of all of them because I want to know if these guys going in, like, are they asking Jerry and and the whole crew whoever's doing the interviews are they asking questions like okay it hasn't maybe it hasn't worked you know as of you know the last 15 20 years like you guys haven't gotten over the hump and got another super bowl like how i guess you got to ask what the structure is like how much power you're going to have and how much like what does jerry want does jerry want an old grizzled vet in there that maybe he can't persuade as much or does he he want a younger person that he can kind of control and let him know, like, hey, I'm still the boss.
I still make the final decision on things. I bet that's got to be big questions with these coaches.
Yeah, so like Kellen Moore potentially not asking those questions is one of the reasons why maybe that would be the desired hire for the Dallas Cowboys. Anytime you go into a family business, you've got to do your research and start asking questions.
Sure. Hey, who's going to have say in this particular, who, who is going to have say in this particular, what has this person done other than be in your family? You know, in that whole, you got to have those questions to get those answers.
If you're going to be an outsider going into a family business, because if you're somebody that wants to see something go a certain way in the family, whether it one member even if it's not the most important member they're going to have more together than you could ever catch up to having like that's just a matter of fact you're never going to be able to become a full-time member of the jones family jason garrett was close very close which is why it took so long for him to get fired allegedly was a report outside but if you listen listen to Jerry in his one and done monologue that he did in land, man in Lombardi pointed this out, Lombardi's like, you listen to that. And the reason why he was able to cry is because he was talking literally from his personal experience.
It's like, that's a family run business. That is how that is.
And if you're coming in there, you're coming into their world. You're coming into their house to kind of operate.
So Kellen Moore, first opportunity, super young. He's already been down there.
He's liked by the Jones family. He's liked by Dak.
He also might not be like, uh-uh, I don't want to do it the same old Jones way. I don't think he's going to say that.
Prime now, Prime's already run a successful operation, a program, already built some things. He is friends with the Jones family.
We all assume he's very familiar with the Dallas Cowboys operation. Will he come in and be like hey Mr.
Jones we can't be doing this the same way that we've been

doing this and yet like is that something that they're okay with Jason Witten same exact thing

Bob Sala just left the family business okay and the New York Jets just got fired from a family

business in New York Jets and he potentially I mean we learned about the Brick Johnson stuff

after Sala was gone but what what all happened with Coach Sala in that entire situation does

He wants to be a great owner at some point he's 17 years old he doesn't know shit about anything at this stage of life even though he's been around football you know since his dad has owned a team but it's like sala understands what it's like to go into a family business is that going to carry into his decision making and i don't know it's tough it's tough to just say any job's a great job which is kind of what shefter has alluded to a couple times yes there's only 32 of these we've already seen ben johnson say uh-huh yeah i'm not gonna go anywhere and there's a chance a chance Ben Johnson still decides to come back to Detroit knowing that there's going to be a head coaching opportunity for him inevitably whenever he wants it. Yeah, I've had a theory that he watches MCDC lead these men every single day, and he says, I can't do that.
I'm a great OC. I'm going to score a million points.
Why are you burying Ben Johnson? Well, I want him to stay in Detroit forever. I want to score a million touchdowns forever.
You want him to want Lions fans – you want him to hear Lions fans burying him, thinking that he ain't got it? Jeez, that's just like Devontae. Couldn't do it without Aaron.
Is that what you're trying to – jeez. I just want to score points, and I love Ben Johnson.
He can do that. Yeah, and Aaron Glenn, he said, is going to get a job too.
It's like, what if Aaron Glenn – same exact thing. He's like, defensive head coaches, got to go to the right spot.
You don't go to the right spot. You're kind of kicked out to the curb.
Maybe Aaron Glenn and Ben Johnson both say, I'd rather stick around here, continue to build what we're building. And Sheila Fordham maybe kicks him into a little bit more money to kind of build that thing up.
Cliff Kingsbury over there in Washington, been a head coach before, obviously doing this with the offense. Does he want to jump back into the saddle of being a head coach and deal with bullshit? Or does he potentially want to continue to kind of build what they're doing in Washington for the first time in a long time? And maybe he has Josh Harris, Magic Johnson, all the ownership over there saying, hey, you give me an extra million bucks, this is an easy decision for me to make.
And also an easy decision for me to explain to friends and family that might not be thrilled that I'm turning down these jobs. I think in 2025 there's a lot more of that potential opportunity than it had been in the past, but who knows? We shall see how it all plays out.
Well, I think you made the important distinction to Shefty too, when he was saying like, hey, the Cowboys job is still very, very alluring because it's one of 32. But you basically said like, I don't know if anyone who hasn't either been a part of the star or have a previous relationship with Jerry Jones is going to take that job.
And then he mentioned four guys, but four of those guys, with the exception of Salah, had either worked with Jerry in the past or kind of knew what they were getting into. You said it.
I don't think there's any way that Salah's going to go down there and get into the same situation. Deion seems like maybe the only guy who would be able to push back on Jerry a little bit and kind of, you know, make it his own a little bit.
But then you also look at all these other guys, like 50% of their salary cap is going to be tied up in three players. So it's like, if you're a new coach coming in, how alluring is that where it's like, I really am not even going to be able to, and again, who knows how much roster control any of these guys are going to have, but you're not really going to be able to get your fingerprints on that roster that much because they're paying three guys so much money and they're going to be there for probably the full extent of when you're the head coach.
Okay, so let's talk about teams that are left as opposed to teams that are trying to figure out what next season looks like. Houston Texans obviously have to travel to play the back-to-back Super Bowl champs, looking to do something that no team in the modern era has done, win three straight Super Bowls.
It's obviously going to be cold as hell. Here's D'Amico Ryans chit-chatting about the weather.
The weather can be a challenge if you allow it to be a challenge. For me and for our guys, it's something we can't control.
We don't control the weather. Wherever we have to play, we're ready to go play.
We understand we'll be on the road. It's going to be cold.
That's what we have to deal with. And it's not a challenge for us.
It's just something the other team has to deal with as well. So we're ready to go.
There's no excuses about weather. We got to go suit up and we got to go play ball.
I love that message. Obviously, who controls the weather? Great question by you in the middle of it, AJ.
The reason why I said I can't take it is I'm done with people breathing into their fucking phones whenever they're doing this entire thing. I understand we got to get these videos up quickly.
And doing it with your cell phone is the easiest way to do as such such let's just have a little bit of cognizance of the fact that is heard while you're recording in the entire I'm not saying Aaron did that it could have been somebody sitting next to him sure but let's just keep our awareness levels up whenever we're doing it it's just like when Mickey was you that gum. It gets a little frustrating.

This is starting to happen in the modern era of media a lot more because it's much quicker just to do it on the phone.

But these phones' microphones are good.

These phones' microphones are good.

So if you've got a little congestion or a little wheezy or whistling from the nose,

we can hear it.

And some of us, what's it called?

What's the thing called?

The phobia? What's that? Misophonia. Misophonia.
Misophonia. There it is.
Four different. I have misophonia and I never knew it was an actual thing.
I just remember hating that my dad couldn't chew with his fucking mouth closed my entire life. More so, more than anybody else for some reason.
I couldn't take it. I just couldn't.
I just, I can't. I can't do this.
I can't. And it's called misphoning.
I guess we're not the only. The breathing whistling into things, also another one of those little things.
So I appreciate Aaron Wilson. I don't think it was him.
I assume it was somebody next to him. But let's just be aware of these things.
Or get directional mics. Yeah, or just.
Extend that thing a little. Or just use hand as funnel opposite direction.
Or hold your breath. There you go.
Just don't breathe. Pass out if you have to.
Yeah, practice that. We need the clip.
But in that clip, D'Amico Ryans, what he said is what you would hope every single coach would say, right? This is not on us. It's a mindset.
It's a mentality. It is a mentality and a mindset until it's not it's not though H and that is uh I think they're cut from a different jib than let's say the um Miami Dolphins okay okay I assume that the Houston Texans are a little bit different in the way they're constructed and the humans but if you don't get going early if it's a bad start early and the Chiefs are rolling I do think the Colt is a nice tag team partner in making people quit and tap out a little bit earlier than maybe they would in the past.
So I think starting hot, no pun intended here, starting hot is a big deal for a team whenever they're traveling into the cold-ass weather, AJ. Yeah, and I look at the bottom there of that Texans-Chiefs game, 11-13 mile-an-hour wins.
Now, that's not terrible, but that's something. That's absolutely something.
If it gets and starts gusting a little bit through that place, if you get down early, then you've got to make plays, especially if you've got to make big chunk plays and explosive gains over the top. Say you're down two scores in the second half or something, that's when I think this cold definitely matters.
You watch it. I've talked to guys.
I was lucky enough to play in Lambeau Field for nine years. I've talked to guys in the opposing teams after the game sometimes like man once we were once we were out of like the third quarter we got down two or three scores but man we might as well pack up the bus and get out of here because they want to go like you want to leave when you're when it's that cold people don't really understand it but it's true and for whatever reason if you get ahead in those games you see the other team you can smell that these guys might quit, and shortly if we just go and get another score, get another big stop, I think it's huge, but if you sit there and you talk about it all the time, like you can't sit there and talk about the weather all week long, like have a plan on what you're going to wear, what cleats you're going to wear, how you're going to try to stay warm when you're not on the field, and then just go play.
Yeah, and you talk about the 11, 13 mile an hour and the cold weather and stuff like that, having to make chunk plays. Special teams, it affects it too.
Special teams, it'll certainly affect it. I assume in those cold games, we'll see a lot more returns because the ball will be landing in the landing zone as opposed to being able to blast it out of the end zone, which could obviously be a big part of some of these games.
Punting, not easy whenever it's breezy, let alone cold. You know, cold is obviously difficult because cold weather, you know, makes the outside shell of the ball harder, right? Because it's naturally cold.
It's the one eating it. But the air bladder inside of a ball, which is what you're pumping up, is still, you know, the way it is.
So to kick a ball in the cold, you have to crack through this a little bit more. It's inevitably going to slow down the leg speed.
It's going to slow down the explosion off of your foot whenever you wrap it. So cold certainly can knock down the distance of kicks, but it also with the breeze, it can change everything in the punt game.
Now, Matt Ariza, punter for the Chiefs, his ball does not travel much from hand to foot. I mean, it is about a foot, say he drops it he murders the ball he booms that thing so good every time i don't know how he does it with his he drops it pretty low and then he just it's like a it's just like a quick and it's quick gone he's almost like he's from san diego I understand that.
California warm climate and everything like that.

I feel like he was actually built to be a cold weather, windy punter

because he hits a tight ball too. So if you hit

a tight ball, that thing's obviously going to go.

But this punting thing with the wind and the cold,

not only is the ball against you, but the wind being

against you, there's a chance we get some shanks.

I don't love that at all.

I don't love that one bit.

You think Tommy Townsend would be okay too? It might actually be a good pun good battle. Tommy hit one off the inside of his foot last week, I think, which is very rare for Tommy.
Very, very rare for him. He hits moon shots, that guy.
So is Ariza. And then you go over to Philadelphia.
They got some opportunities in that snow to special teams-wise. You can take advantage of that snow with the way the kicks are gonna go maybe lower you know maybe slick so scared to commit to a kickoff a little bit more or a punt a little bit more or field goal a little bit more obviously jake elliott's used to and everything like that but there is a chance this weather affects the third phase which is special teams as well all throughout the weekend yeah sean mcveigh stats also coming out about the eagles game where if he is on a short week in their underdogs of five or more points, he's like undefeated.
So as far as irrelevant stats go, that's kind of the one in this game when it comes to Rams-Eagles. 11-0 overall.
Now, did we fact-check the Rams bros here from SB Breakers? That's SB Nation, I assume. Oh, assume oh i am yeah probably so we assume that's real

sb breakers is very good okay you guys know i'm not a big fact checker okay you just brought the fact up though so yeah well hashtag stat that hashtag stat that of course but i think like this is can you can you mute this please can you mute this please us too bro Who is it?

That's Speed Breakers. That was quick.
This guy. Is that who I think it was? Yeah, same guy called me twice yesterday in another show.
And then called me afterwards. SB Breakers? It's not SB Breakers.
If I was to say who that was, people would be like, let's not name drop the most powerful, wealthiest person that you could ever... Donald Trump? Holy...
No, it's Joe Biden. No, this is not a president or future president.
Elon? This is not Elon, although... Hold on, let's keep guessing.
Let's get back to this let's get back to those two are besties now i think from what i learned yesterday all the zunk feels like all all the all the they're all there's a lot of people saying that's a bad thing it's like okay yeah let's get the people that are you know figured everything out and want to to do shit no they're doing it just for self-gain it's like maybe for what okay maybe maybe they will be doing that or maybe they have brains big ones and maybe they all want to be like let's figure out how to make everything better from all parties too these are from all different parties seemingly wanting to do stuff i don't want to get into that world because i don't know it enough but i do appreciate whenever people are like so let me get this straight all the successful smart people are coming together to do stuff that's bad news give me the people that have done nothing but politics okay all right i i don't i don't understand the brains over there but let's get back to sports shall? The weekend's going to be awesome. Then Monday night, age national championship.
Notre Dame versus Ohio State. The Buckeyes take on the Fighting Irish.
Two old school, traditional powerhouses battle in Atlanta and Mercedes-Benz Stadium. Whenever you think about this game just a few days out, as an Ohio State, I think we got a video thing video thing right as an Ohio State Buckeye legend and Ohio State uh hero and former president of Ohio how do you feel going in we're talking about this earlier we've kind of swayed a little bit it's an eight point spread obviously so that's a big one there eight and a half I guess it has gone up to that seems like the sportsbook think that Ohio State is uh too powerful too strong, too quick, too talented, too much of everything.
But I feel like me personally and everybody else thought that every team that Notre Dame has played is going to be too powerful, too quick, too athletic, too everything. And they've just shown up.
The shit coming out from behind the scenes of the Notre Dame team, awesome. Everything you want in a team is seemingly in that Notre Dame locker room and culture that Marcus Freeman is leading.
And then I read the Jack Sawyer Players Tribune. I hope you got a chance to read that as well.
Everything coming out of that building is everything that you would want in a team, in a culture, in a locker room. How do you see it faring out now that we're on Friday? And what is Ohio State's thoughts, the fans, as we look ahead to the national championship? Man, I think the fans, I think they're realizing like, hey, we're finally here.
It was a long trek to get to this point, but this is where they're at. The thing Jack wrote was really cool to see him write that the week of the biggest game of his life, pretty much.
I think people are pretty optimistic and feel really good about Ohio State, but I think they also respect the hell out of Notre Dame and Marcus Freeman and what he's done. Obviously, Marcus played linebacker at Ohio State.
He's had a ton of respect as a coach forever, and what he's done with Notre Dame in a short time is unbelievable. So I think that alone has people very, I would say, they're not letting their ego run wild.
Sometimes a team comes in if they're a favorite, their fan base gets just crazy, and they think they have no chance of ever losing and all this. And maybe it's because Ohio State has dropped a few games this year, including the biggest one against Michigan.
Maybe that's why they won't let themselves get carried away. But I think very optimistic, very excited, actually, for Monday night.
I think both these teams are obviously very deserving. Both these teams in the culture and the cut of their jibs is exactly what I would want a team that I'm a fan of to have, especially with how we're watching them all kind of come to life in the biggest moments, showing up in the biggest ways for the biggest plays on the biggest stages, all of these guys.
So it's, they got it right. I think college football playoff got it right here with these two teams.
And I'm excited to watch the fight. We'll be on the call the sideline obviously on espn2 speaking of on the call tom brady's going to be on the call for fox for the next nine years yeah how about it oh yeah obviously there's been a lot of conversation about a conflict of interest between tom brady the owner who is now hands-on owner not just investment owner trying to reap the, not in the building owner, just somebody that has their money be a part of a team.
He's hands-on now with the selection of the head coach and I assume the general manager. Strategy going forward, how the team's going to be built.
Why else would you bring in Tom Brady at a lower rate, which was the issue with all the other NFL owners, then for him to have say and make the Raiders great, once again Max Crosby was on Good Morning Football he said in years past I've stressed out potentially about who's going to be the head coach this year it'll all work out how it's supposed to he looks so cool on Good Morning Football hair was perfect beard outstanding but I think there's a chance that a lot of Raiders people feel that way because Tom Brady is a part of it because Tom Brady's doing a leadership so then whenever he's calling games or whenever he's saying anything this weekend for instance Ben Johnson is potentially a head coaching candidate for the Raiders he's on the call for that a lot of people thought that it would be too much and inevitably Tom would have to step away or somebody would say hey not smart for you to be one of the voices of our game while also being an owner in the game his agent has come out and said nah yeah 375 million brother yeah we're gonna take that yeah we we are gonna be doing that he's gonna fulfill his obligations and his contract that he signed to fox he obviously respects fox and appreciates him he's doing the best job that he possibly can aj how do you feel about that and do you think it inevitably gets loud, especially if he continues to be an owner in the league for the Raiders? I have no issue with Tom being an owner and being in the booth. I don't understand why people think he cannot do both.
Like, do they think his workload is too much? Like Tom Brady, who played in the NFL forever and has won so many Super Bowls that the guy can't handle it? Like, no, the season's, what, five or six months long when he's in the booth I don't really understand I don't get caught up I guess in all of the drama saying like oh is he going to get inside information from these whatever from when he's broadcasting and talking to people okay good luck like he's going to be fine I don't think I think it's way overblown when they think the like the advantage that Tom could possibly gain from being in the booth and talking to these guys he could talk to him anyway anyway. No matter what.
I just, I don't get it. Well, what about tampering? He's on the sideline before the games, walking around warm-up saying, hey.
He could do that. I mean, he could do it.
If he's not a broadcaster, he'll go to all the games. But is that not tampering? He can still have relationships with all these same people.
Yeah, but he's not getting a chance to see 53 and a third every single game walk around the pregame. Hey, you happy here? Okay.
Hey, you happy here? here i'm not saying tom would ever do that but i'm saying all these things are the fears that people have of an owner like an actual owner calling games i i like tom brady being around the game personally i like tom brady having a voice in the game i like tom brady having a podcast in the game it's the greatest of all time so the more we hear from him the better and i'm appreciative of but i think like the people that think it's a conflict of interest are only going to find more things to get pissed off about tom brady being an owner and also lead voice commentary in this entire thing yeah people are bitching and granted it's probably jokes but also probably not that he cheated while he was in the nfo so a way that he would be able to cheat here would be that he would, you know, let's say week one, he's calling the game of Commander's Lions. And then week two, the Raiders are playing the Commanders.
Well, Tom just learned what their entire philosophy is going to be this season through interviewing and all that stuff before the game with Cliff Kingsbury or Dan Quinn. That is what people are bringing up.
What's that, H? What's that, H? That's over, boy. Come on now.
What are we talking about? In a production meeting, Tom's going to learn every secret of the organization. He might.
Well, and I also thought that he wasn't allowed. Yeah, that's a big part of it.
What do you guys do at the production meetings? Could he come in with bugs and just bug the entire facility? Which is what they did say the Patriots did to everybody else. You know, the Patriots actually.
I think the Patriots are at the Colts facility whenever they

had played the Super Bowl here.

Helicopters.

No, no, no. They actually worked out in the

Colts facility whenever they were

in the Super Bowl. After that,

after the week that the Patriots

were in the Colts facility. Hilarious.

Sweep the entire building.

We need to go into the ceiling.

We need to go into everything

and make sure that they have not left

anything behind. But yes, anytime a helicopter

I'm not sure. sweep the entire building we need to go into the ceiling we need to go into everything and make sure that they have not left anything behind but yes anytime a helicopter flew over the colts facility there was always a i don't know bill belichick had his helicopter license what's your hell we need to check that entire thing out all right big story in the nfl is what's happening with the dallas cowboys there's obviously a legendary football name being associated with it in Deion, primetime Sanders.
Joining us now, close friend, family member damn near of Deion Sanders, former Dallas Cowboy, host of the Pac-Man Jones show, friend of the program, ladies and gentlemen, Pac-Man. Yeah, Pac-Man.
What's up with the gang? How y'all doing? Good, we're excited we're getting a chance to chat with you. There was a buzz in here getting a chance to catch up with Adam Pac-Man Jones.
Con man always shit his pants this morning, actually. Jacked up.
What's up with the guys, man? Hey, we're having a good time. You look so cool.
Congrats on a phenomenal season of the Pac-Man Jones show. The clips are everywhere.
Conversations going crazy. One of them was with Deion Sanders.
And at that time, I think there was no consideration of him potentially going to the nfl that was kind of the chat that you had with him in your very close relationship now after jerry calls him tries to we assume persuade him into at least garnering a little bit of interest he said publicly it was intriguing to adam schefter now we're hearing about the nil thing in colorado we're hearing about the staff salary at Colorado. Where do you think we stand on that entire storyline? And what are you hearing from Prime and or Jerry down there in Dallas? All right, first and foremost, the next Dallas Cowboys coach is going to be Kelly Moore.
Everybody knows that with the relationship that's over there. Deion is not leaving Colorado by no means necessary.
unless he was able to coach both his sons, which I don't think that's possible. Because sources says that Ben Johnson is going to be the Raiders coach.
Okay. Like, real good sources.
Like, I'm talking about, like, real good sources, as we shall say. I don't think Deion is going nowhere um i think it was good entertainment but i i don't think dion is going to jerry world okay so pac-man says hey and by the way pac's been around yep long time in the nfl friends with every seemingly friends with everybody i think that's pretty accurate assessment on yeah the pac-man jones so he says dion staying to color Colorado, Kellen Moore going to Dallas, Ben Johnson on good authority, heading over

to the Raiders, and Shador probably going to be

the quarterback there. AJ has

a question for you, Pac.

What about Aaron Glenn, Pac? You got any

inside information on where he might be going?

I don't.

Aaron Glenn is, he's

not in the circle that I'm in.

So I

had no sources

on that one. Okay, so let's get back to Prime.
Let's talk about Prime a little bit because I know you are in that circle closely. When Jerry calls him, and I know you know Jerry as well, when Jerry calls him and says like, hey, this is potentially an opportunity, and he called it intriguing, do you think there was a time where Dion sat down and was like, I have to weigh my options here?

And then do you think he inevitably wanted to go back to Colorado because what he built?

Or do you think he was like, I got a thing going here in Colorado that I've committed to regardless of what Jerry's saying?

No, you got I'm quite sure he took the meeting. Everybody's going to take the meeting.

But I think the big thing about this whole thing is him being able to coach the boys at the next level if that's not a strong possibility I think the NFL thing was already out of there okay Connor has a question for you yeah pack always a pleasure the glasses are sweet uh do you know like what Shadur's thoughts are with this draft upcoming does he have a preference on where he wants to go? Does it matter where he wants to go? And do the Giants cleats that he had in his bowl game locker room, is that kind of him pointing towards, hey, I want to go play with Malik Nabors? Shadur said he want to be the number one pick overall. That's where he want to go, number one.
So whoever end up at that number one spot Tennessee which you can see some teams trading around see the Raiders going up to get one cuz like you don't need no quarterback do y'all need a quarterback before though yeah so right now the lineup is time and number one Browns number two overall overall. Titans don't need a quarterback.
They ain't going to stick with what they got. Titans are in a quarterback needy time because they're moving on from Will Levis, definitely.
I think they're moving on from Will Levis. 100%? I think that is pretty clear, I think.
Now, granted, they might get a vet because there's a lot of veterans that could come in there. Kirk Cousins potentially going to be available.
Obviously, Darnold potentially going to be available. Daniel Jones potentially going to be available.
Aaron Rodgers potentially going to be available. Has raw land down there in Nashville.
And then everybody else, these are all the rookies combined with some of the vets and there are vets that aren't on the screen that could be also on the market. Titans we think are going to need a quarterback.
Maybe they'll go with a vet. The Browns, they just locked in again to Deshaun Watson, but that deal was locked in as soon as it was signed.
He tears his Achilles yet again. Who knows what they're going to do? I think they might be interested in a quarterback.
The New York Giants, obviously, they're going to be interested in a quarterback. The Patriots are the only ones there in the top four that don't need a quarterback, and then obviously Trevor Lawrence down there with the Jack jacks well yeah because ain't nobody gonna they ain't trevor lawrence name on the stadium down there they just pay him too much so they stuck with him you're talking about trevor bank field trevor yeah that was uh what's he 55 million a year is what trevor's making down there okay so you're saying the shadors he wants to be number one overall.
He'll go wherever he gets drafted, obviously. It doesn't make a lot of sense, bro.
Him and Brady, they got a deal together. Brady have been training him since he was in high school.
He's signed to Brady right now as far as endorsement. It just seems like a good fit to me for a guy that's the owner of a team that's been working with the kids since he was in high school, that knows his flaws and the things that he's good at, to get him.

It just don't make no other sense for me to think anything different than that.

And also, he and Mark Davis tapped each other up, I believe, at a game or two.

They have a relationship and everything like that.

There was actually a thought that maybe Prime is going to be head coach of the Raiders. What was that? He just gave a little head bump.
I heard there was a conversation, but I don't think that's going to happen. Colorado is where Pac said he believes Deion is going to remain.
Ty has a question for you. Yeah, Pac, a report came out today that said Deion went to Colorado and basically asked for more money for NIL and for his coach's pool because they've already went away from the NIL, and Colorado basically balked at the idea and kind of is just standing pat for right now.
Do you think with that report coming out, there's any chance Deion may reconsider and think like, oh, okay, maybe the NFL is a better option? Or do you think ultimately all this stuff will get handled at Colorado because his name is now getting leaked out there to go to the Cowboys? I think all of it will get handled. If you look at the turnout they done had in the last year, nobody was even thinking about Colorado before Deion got there.
Now you can't even buy a ticket online for the next five years so and they had some big names come through there and them boys was getting paid they was getting paid so I'm quite sure they can dig down deep somewhere and um get the coaches a little bit more and and help out with the NIL deal and I don't think it'll come an issue this year but if it don't happen this year it may become an issue after this but um with the young talent that he brought in the number one quarterback in the country like i just don't see it's got to be a real miracle for deon the league colorado um i truly think he really love it there and

It might be where he want to end up

Okay, all right. We took a little road there.
We just took a little bit road

Now let's say let's go to Cincinnati obviously home for you currently tone has a question for you. What up pack?

What do you tell how do you feel about?

What when

Steelers. Steelers.

Oh, you mean the week that you...

The last five fucking games.

You mean the week that

you guys were already in Cabo?

Oh!

It didn't take y'all but 24

more hours. Okay, that's true.

I know, I know. One more quarters, yep.

Back, wasn't good at either city

this year, but speaking of, Jamar,

you know, he had the contract dispute

kind of early last year. You think Jamar

I don I know. One more quarters, yep.
In fact, wasn't good at either city this year. But speaking of, Jamar, you know, he had the contract dispute kind of early last year.
You think Jamar will get a new deal before this season comes? And if not, you think he'll hold out? I think Mr. Brown got a brink trip down there right now.
Trying to figure out what the number is before April get here. There's no way that he don't get paid.
What did he say? He won a dollar more? I think he deserves a dollar

more.

$35.5 million or

$36 million.

He's proven it, though. He played week

in and week out.

He's electrifying to see it.

He's a great receiver. Yeah, they both are.

They're awesome to watch. Joe Burrow,

obviously, absolute stud. Cannot wait to see how they keep that entire team together good for cincinnati good for football to watch them do their thing and hopefully the defensive side is able to tighten up now last question obviously for me rich rodriguez back at west virginia brother i know you and i a part of the conversation and obviously we've kept in touch with coach rod how do you feel about it now that we're a couple weeks removed from the decision being made? And what are your expectations going into this particular spring? Man, I feel really good.
I actually talked to Rod today. He got a couple of the guys that was rounding the circle.
He got Noel back. Coach Castile is back.
It's a lot of guys that know the culture of football. Not lazy.
You know what I mean? Nothing lazy. We want guys that want to win and play hard.
And I think we're in a good situation. He already got two big names.
Oh, yeah. Transfer portal, we've been crushing right now.
Yeah. We've got a couple of them already.
The DN. I The DN, I can't remember his name.
We got a big DN that we just paid too, Pat. He's a monster.
Yeah, Juco guy, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, this Juco guy, they didn't know what his eligibility was going to be.
And there was other people trying to push for this guy. And Rich Rod was like, we'll stick with you no matter what here.
Then the ruling came on, and the guy was like, I appreciate you. And he's coming through.
Now, we're paying him, but he is a dog. He's a dog, which is the only people that are going to be on this West Virginia roster.
And did you hear they got tour of duty coming up next week? Yeah. I hated that shit.
That's the only thing I did not like. Yeah, we all did.
Everybody hated it, but it was a massive part of building the culture. I think those dudes on that roster are about to learn what hard edge is about the next week.
We're going to find out who's in and who's out. It just got real.
Yes, it did. And I'm excited for them.
I'm excited for you. Keep crushing it with the Pac-Man Jones show, man.
We're proud of you. Hey, man, I love y'all, man.
We'll see you soon. Fuck's day! Them lives look pretty good, my boy.
Yes, sir, Pac-Man. Super Bowl, this is the year.
Are they winning it? Are they winning it all? I think so. Let's go.
All right, that's Adam Pac-Man Jones, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you, Pac.
Love you, Pac. All right, so he said Dion's staying in Colorado.
And then he said there's going to have to be a miracle. If a situation pops up out of nowhere that he has to take, he's going to do that.
But I think from what it sounded like out of PAC, it's like he's at Colorado. He's at Colorado.
But then the Raiders get offered up. And it's like the Raiders, he could coach his kid.
But then he said Ben Johnson's going to the Raiders, which is potentially why he's excited about Shador potentially going to the Raiders because of his connection with Tom Brady. It's like Pac-Man is just, he's, he's tapped into a lot of people.
Now, how much do people know at this exact moment? Because as we've seen, things can change, you know, more opportunities pop up, another situation arises. It's like things can change, but at the current moment, it feels like Dion going back to colorado and pack size pack is in oh yeah very very in over there ben going to the raiders even though shefter in the first hour was like why is everybody just got ben johnson going to the raiders i think pack's got him going there and then pack's got shador going over there too if he can figure out how to make the make the draft work with Tennessee.
Three quarterback-needy teams at the very top of the draft. Man, I forgot how electrifying it is, all the speculation, all the bullshit.
It's the best. This is what we're getting into right now.
Without a doubt. But the thing with Deion, too, and I think that he might very well be, I want to stay at Colorado right now.
But that's why the whole thing with like Jerry is like one of,

if not the only owner in the NFL where like if he wants Deion bad enough,

he's going to do whatever he has to do to get it.

Like I don't think there are very many owners like that, you know,

where it's like you meet with Deion and he's like, you know what, I'm good.

I want to stay at Colorado.

And they kind of say okay and go their separate ways.

Like if Jerry wants him bad enough, he will put together an offer he can't refuse. And to what Schefter was saying, Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn, the clear 1-2.
And with both those guys, the Cowboys weren't even in the talking point. It was New York and New Orleans for Aaron Glenn, and then it was Vegas, Chicago, Jacksonville for Ben Johnson.
So it's like if there is no clear number three, then the splash kind of higher would be Deion. And just thinking about the Patriots and Vrabel, who knows if he has to win back over the franchise or the fans rather with Dallas.
I assume he does just because of the expectations and kind of the dud of the season. Hiring hiring Dion would probably be like having the fans back on your side.
Like that would be an easy way to be like, hey, I'm trying. I'm going out there.
I'm doing this. This guy knows the star.
He gets it. And that's what happened with the Patriots and Vrabel, like with Kraft.
Everyone in New England is back on the Kraft side after the debacle of last offseason with the Apple TV documentary, killing Belichick after kind of the way the offseason went with paying people and guys not wanting to come to New England. Like, Hiram Vrabel kind of basically clean slate with all the fans.
Hey, we can forget about that. It's a new era, and that could happen with Prime and Dow.
Okay, so maybe Deion goes to Dallas. Pac says he's staying in Colorado.
Let's talk about another Deion. Deion Dawkins, the electrifying tackle for the Buffalo Bills.

He was talking about going into this massive matchup with the Baltimore Ravens.

He's feeling good, I'd say.

Oh, yeah.

I'm sure different players react differently to it.

Some probably get a little tighter, a little more nervous.

Do you feel like it's more fun?

Do you feel like it maybe makes you even looser? Is that possible? Do you see me right now? That's what I mean. I got goggles on in a press conference.
You're asking me, do I feel more loose and free? I am free, my dog. I'm free, yes.
Do you embrace how fun this is? Of course. I'm having the most fun in my life.
And I am present in the time that we're in right now. I know what's going on.
Like, this is history being written right now. And I know the moment that we're in.
And, you know, me, I'm just taking, not advantage, but I'm taking being present in the moment. Like, I'm embracing what's going on.
I'm not trying to be too cool for it. I'm just Deion.
I am just Deion. But, yes, yeah, I am more comfortable.
Of course, you have nerves because, you know, we're in elimination rounds. This is what football is.
Like, this ain't, you know, the best of four games, best of three. No, this is elimination chambers.
So it's thought of, but it's not harped on. You have that in your head because that's the situation that is in front of us.
But besides that, I'm free, calm, cool, and snow. I am D-Dawg.
And I'm going to be myself. Snow goggles on.
Schmel me. Straight off of Pac-Man.
Love everything about that. Elimination chamber.
Amen. Same rules for everybody.
You lose. You are out forever.
Unless you're Brock Lesnar, then you break through the glass and say, I'm done waiting. That's right.
We're doing this entire thing, and everybody in there has to schmel him and see how that whole thing goes. How do you feel about how Deion Dawkins, I think it think that's a reflection on the culture and obviously i think that's a reflection on how great he is at his job you don't have that type of confidence and free feeling unless you put the work in and you're very good which i think that entire buffalo bills team feels the exact same way yeah i i love everything he said there's it seemed very real and authentic and so yeah of course there's nerves but we don't we don't harp on it We don't make it a bigger deal than it is.
And I think even a guy like Deion speaking like that, I think it might even calm some of the coaches down. We all know when big games are about to happen, the week leading up to it, that's when some coaches, they get super tight, and sometimes they just freak out, and that trickles down throughout the rest of the team.
So I think a guy like Deion is absolutely key to having these moments because if you actually sit there and you think about it, like, hey, here we go, we win this one, we're one game away from the Super Bowl, that's a light-changing event that I could hopefully be a part of. You can't really put yourself in those shoes yet, I think, until you truly have to take it minute by minute, I think, in the playoffs.
Right in history, he understands the moment. I'm free, my dog.
He said, I'm wearing goggles in a press conference.

You think I'm loose?

I don't know.

Like, I appreciate Dion

pointing out the obvious.

Like, brother,

you think I got any worries up here?

And also, to add to the point

about Dion Dawkins,

and we've chatted about this before,

whenever left tackles

have been trying to get off the ball

as far as possible,

you know, they made the,

we were all reminded of

you have to break the center's ass basically with at least a helmet deon dawkins lined up offsides the other way just to showcase like hey i am it don't matter this is me versus you i will backpedal if i have to get to a spot and maul them josh allen knows he's got a dog over there the buffalo bills know they got a dog over there and to your point about calming down the coaches i think that's a huge deal joe brady's name is now up for these head coaching jobs it was a few years back then the carolina thing happens and he goes to buffalo then then he gets the offense coordinator job it's like i'm not saying joe brady get nervous but a lot on the line for joe brady a lot on the line for mcdermott and these coaches aren't all elite performers. Elite performers have the clutch gene.

They understand the big lights

and the big moments.

Feels like the Bills coaches

at this moment, ready.

Feels like the Bills team

at this moment, ready.

More so than ever before.

Same with Baltimore.

It feels the exact same with them.

And then you look at

the big bad wolf,

the Kansas City Chiefs,

it's like, is this the year

you can get them?

Is this the year?

Are the Houston Texans going to shock the world and end this thing for the Kansas City Chiefs, it's like, is this the year you can get them? Is this the year? Are the Houston Texans going to shock the world and end this thing for the Kansas City

Chiefs in a divisional round, one game into a playoff run?

It's like, I'm not sure.

I don't think anybody will believe it until they see it.

I believe the Chiefs are still the Chiefs, but some people believe maybe they're gettable

this year.

And you have to feel that way if you're in the AFC.

And then in the NFC, Lions, Wagon, Commanders, Team commanders team of destiny remember we're talking the way they've won games yeah maybe the football gods are saying hey thank you for changing ownership thank you for moving forward thank you for making your fans be happy and proud to be fans of your team and then the rams and eagles we would assume with the amount of snow that's coming through there that'll favor the eagles matthew stafford ain't scared of a damn thing never has we got a great divisional round coming up we'll continue this program on youtube espn plus disney plus and uh wow tiktok live supreme court just won 9-0 to continue to ban that thing literally today trump has come out

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It's way better than the university. It's also a great school.
If you're an Eagle Scout, you can go there for free. I'll tell you what.
Really? If you can tie knots, you can go to the SNU? It's already gone, yeah. Is it Grand Canyon University? No.
GCU is a real thing. It sounds like this is a little bit of the Southampton Institute of Technology.
No, that's just the Southern in it. I actually have been up there near their campus, though.
The arena they have is actually like, there's like a 10,000 seat arena. This is an actual in actual in-person yes i think it's mostly online but i believe you can take courses in person the arena i pulled up i was like holy fucking shit that's not real yes no people what do they do in there they people bring their laptops and concerts people go there i i multiple people from the town i grew up and went to southern new hampshire university and it is a astute college yeah i took Glasses there.
Multiple people from the town I grew up in went to Southern New Hampshire University,

and it is an astute college.

I took classes there.

Online?

Mm-hmm.

So you didn't take them there.

You took them online?

I mean, through them?

Yeah.

Did they carry over to anything that you needed to get done?

I was getting my master's before this happened, and then I just stopped.

See, that's legit.

So they can give out a doctorate?

They can do that, yeah.

Southern Hampton?

Yep, SNU.

Southern New Hampshire University.

SNU.

I think a part of it is. and then I just stopped.
See, that's legit. So they can give out a doctorate this Southern Hampton? Yep, SNU.

Southern New Hampshire University.

SNU. I think a part of that deal, we gave up 30 seconds for them, we should all

got doctorates.

At least PhDs. That'd be cool.

Yeah, Southern New Hampshire

University. Live for your diet, baby.

It has a campus? Yeah.

Is that a legit school, brother?

It sounded like the University of Phoenix when you guys were talking about this, to be clear. I thought this was an online institution.
It's nice. Look how nice that is.
I would guess most of their students are online students, but yeah. Unless you want to explore.
Look at that. Snow Arena.
Yeah, told you. Look how beautiful that landscape is.
We're hiking on an online university. It's crazy.
Dude, dude. It's only partially online.
Most schools are like that. It's near Boston, Massachusetts? Yeah, it's probably about an hour out if it's Manchester.
45? Discover innovative designs. Oh, my God.
They got real classes. Oh, yeah, dude.
This place is legit. How many students are on campus? They're working on robots? Probably like 100.
50? Pretty nice facilities for them. Oh, hell yeah.
Is this a technical institute? What is this? It's just... I don't know.
It's a CIA front? What is this? I have no idea. They bought a 30-second ad.
I think we need to learn a little bit more about Snoo. Congratulations to Snoo.
Snoo's awesome. Snoo's awesome.
Snoo. The H is silent.
Snoo. Snoo.
That's just what we do. Snoo? Snow who? We're bringing a boom to you.

Oh, can you imagine?

They need to link up.

Next commercial.

You could do it with the snoo.

The snoo.

The snoo is on, like, the roof.

Oh, yeah.

Speaking of great chants, we haven't got AJ's take on it yet.

The most recent.

Boom!

That's just what we do. we're bringing the boom to you have you seen the most recent one might be the best work yet yeah i have seen it but i when did they do that when did they give the five booms to the dead person and get in trouble when did that happen i heard it was a live stream not cameo no i think it was a cameo i it was a cameo.
They have the live things popping up in the video, so it is hard to tell. But it's probably somebody ripping the cameo on a live, potentially, and then it gets in there.
I would assume that they didn't just drop into a five big boon shoot without it being a script. You never know.
I heard from kids. I heard kids told me.
So, yeah, I don't know. So, he's read a comment.
Hey, my brother died yesterday. Hey, sorry to hear about your brother dying.
With that being said, he had a life worth living. Five big booms.
Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom! It's not going to bring him back, but certainly let you know we'd like to memorialize him. It might.
Little cost, though. Has anyone ever tried to bring someone back with five big boobs before? I don't want to get too far into it, but I was at a funeral where...
Five big boobs? Nope. Oh, yeah.
I remember that story. Somebody was trying to bring life back into the body.
And that was a scene. I did not expect that.
How did they try? Well, it was was one of those everybody's gotta pray and believe and buy in type thing and the energy and it worked yeah how'd it end if that person got out of the coffin and they already got up there there was a lot of us who uh yeah they didn't just know about their days yeah how do you handle that did someone pull them away like what do you do they're actually undertaker uh yeah it got interesting because yeah it was my first time ever experiencing that and i've had a lot of friends pass away a lot too many and i don't i don't try to do the funeral thing but i'll do like the memorial thing like hey we're going to do this the funeral is just not how i want to see you know that hole is not how i want to do it but this was friend friend, family member. So very, very serious.
Teammate, actually. Very, very serious.
So we all chose to go and support and show and everything like that. So it was interesting.
I don't think anybody ever experienced or expected that. I was asking the religious folks.
You know, I'm like, hey, I don't do a lot of the funerals. How often is this happening out here? Just so I know going forward what to expect walking in that i'm potentially gonna either be a part of something or an uncomfortable situation afterwards yeah because after like five six minutes of this then they did have to pull person yes five six minutes that's a long time started out with a prayer started out with a prayer prayer was like 90 seconds to two minutes And then immediately after the prayer we didn't say amen yet Then it was now it's time to put forth our efforts in beliefs and I'll tell you what I was in I was trying Sure, I was trying my best.
It wasn't me. No, it's three playbacks of the bringing the boom to you Breaking breaking the boom song.
You're talking about five minutes. It's a long time.
Yeah, that's it felt like 40 yeah felt like 40 minutes i can imagine like 40 minutes in there but it's a tough situation yeah what if it worked though it's worth a shot like what if it worked yeah so afterwards i heard from one person that they heard a story obviously about that i said okay in the bible no i crawled out someone crawled out of the casket hey i wasn't jesus christ moving the rock it was somebody uh got life back and uh didn't go on to live but certainly uh extended some time of being alive or whatever i'm like okay well it didn't happen today and i was a believer i wasn't the one bringing the the juice down yeah which is crazy because usually like at that portion of the funeral like they've already taken all your blood out and everything they've done like the embalming process so yeah it's hard to believe yeah but definitely certainly but i did because i don't want to be the one that was sure you had it you were still very good just like when i'm on bigfoot hunting down in georgia i was told at the end of it that somebody in the group didn't believe hard enough that's why we didn't see it nice it wasn't fucking me i started looking around that's son of a bitch every group who was every group for the the last 30 years, they've been telling that. 25 years he's been in the woods charging people to go Bigfoot hunting.
I would assume that there is a standard message at the end of a fruitless hunt for Bigfoot. And I was certainly one of them, but I was not happy with the group that I was with.
I fucking was locked in. Do you think they ever have any of his buddies dress up in a costume and start banging the tree climb up a tree and start making noises and bang around so you know keep the customers coming back I don't even think they're that advanced of a hustle oh I don't even think but you do think it's a hustle it felt like it until you see it they had a they had a megaphone that was about this big.
That's awesome. Like a cheerleader one? Yeah, like a megaphone that was about this large.
And it got real big. And literally, we would just post up in places in the woods.
They would rest it on a log or something like they were a sniper or one of those. And they'd go, like literally just yelling.
They're calling them in? They're calling them? Yeah, that was the Bigfoot hunt. You know, and it's very, it's a very, you know, it's a lot of audio.
What did they say again? Can you do it one more time? It was really just, like a yell. And then somebody else came in and they got a hold of the fucking thing.
And they did this different sound. It was like a, like one of those.
And I'm like, I guess we don't know. Yes, sir.
I guess that is. What if they scare Bigfoot away? They might be scaring Bigfoot away for the last 25 years.
Well, the big thing is as soon as it was awesome. So they set this fucker up.
They set this fucker up, right? And it would be like, everybody, let's know. Like the Ricola commercial.
Yeah, they would do a full on good projection.

And then. And then.
Now you're just listening. Pitch black 4am.
Georgia Hills in the woods. Holy shit.
Nothing. Let's go to another spot.
All right. Well, actually you want to give it a go sure i'll take that they don't know what the in my eyes i left there thinking nobody knows what the sound is that they're all guessing but i don't think steve would appreciate me saying that it is right you should have done the recall what if that is yeah it might be and to to be clear, I might have.
I mean, there was a couple. We did that like 50 times.
I mean, we were in the woods for about four hours walking around the hills of Georgia. One guy was partially deaf, which is a big problem because we're hunting for Bigfoot, which is all.
Right. Yep.
I hear him coming. Yeah.
Not even hearing him coming. Just hear anything.
Yeah. Yeah.
Did he have any weapons? weapons? What if they found him and Bigfoot attacked you guys? You shoot him. I will say, there's not going to be a lot of times you're going to see old Pat McAfee in the woods without a...
Yeah. Yeah, just a heads...
Tim McAfee's son, you're not going to see me in the woods a lot without a little something-something. Probably.
Now, obviously, you can't travel through state lines with that, but you can certainly say, hey, if you got one, I would like to... Why do you have one? Okay, well, yes, I understand how to utilize and operate that thing.
Yeah, I felt pretty safe about the... But I want to go shake its hand.
Sure. But it fucking wouldn't show up because somebody didn't believe enough.
Let's get to a break. I'm still a waste of five hours next time next time you should be glad you came back i mean normally i would imagine that's a you know hey come bigfoot hunting with us and then you never come back that's what probably happened tim mcfee said that whenever i told him what i was doing he said so let me get this straight you're going in the hills of georgia overnight with a deaf guy and another guy to go find Bigfoot.
I'm like, yeah, he goes, if you don't make it out of there, it's on you. And I'm not proud to be your dad.
I'm like, I didn't even think about potential death here until you mentioned it. He goes, first thought, you're going into hills with random Georgia people? I'm like, yes.
He goes, good luck out there. That tends to happen to you a lot where a lot of people's first thought would be death.
It's like way down the list for you. Yeah, me.
I'm like, yes. He goes, good luck out there.
That tends to happen to you a lot, where a lot of people's first thought would be death. It's like way down the list for you.
Yeah, me. I'm like, these guys have seen them three times in 25 years.
I mean, this is the people to go do it with. They claim that they saw, they claim that they haven't seen them.
We had a fucking foot. You got pictures? Got a piece of hair.
Saw a piece of hair. It was in a bag.
Almost jacked that thing. They got the footprint, but it was made with the clay or whatever.
Fossilized. Fossilized footprint.
Oh, yeah. It was a big foot.
I think that's an accurate depiction of what this thing has. I don't know about the dong of it.
Gotta be gigantic. Gotta be.
Because the foot was huge. And then there was a photo of around a tree.
Yep. One yeah oh yeah but it was blurry you see so oh yeah you had to kind of get through but it was big photo on the wall so i don't know if i made it better or worse bigger pixels but i could see the blob yeah i do one of these oh yeah holy okay wow that's out there okay oh yeah you did see this guy was out in the middle of the hills Oh, yeah.
Holy shit. Okay.
Wow, that's out there? Okay.

Oh, yeah, he did see it.

This guy was out in the middle of the fucking hills.

He left his family to do this 25 years ago.

Oh, jeez.

Out there.

Saw it one time hunting and then committed his whole life to doing it again.

How could you not?

See it three times, 25 years, he told me.

Look at this.

I got a footprint.

Okay.

Odds are good.

I believe it.

I believe it.

I tried to steal it.

Shit.

I said, I'm not leaving here without that fucking foot. And then I realized quickly, you should probably get out of here.
Yeah. Sure.
Thought about Tim. I shook his hand.
I'll go back out there with Steve. Dave, the other guy.
Steve and Dave. Dave has a family.
They're still doing it? Still bringing it over. I'm assuming.
I'm assuming Steve's still out there. I'm assuming Steve is still bringing it.

Dave, he might have been the one that didn't believe enough because I think he still had a family

and stuff, so I don't know what he's thinking.

It was a failed

quest.

But that doesn't mean that we won't

find him again. Amen.
Well said.

I did give up a little

bit of hope on Bigfoot after that, though. I think I'm back in on it.
Okay. Yep.
What was going on with those drones over there? Have we found that whole thing out here? Is that just done? It's done. It's done.
Let's not talk about it. Let's move along.
For now. All right.
Let's make our picks on the other side. It's great to be here on TikTok Live.
Yeah. It's going to get pretty bloody.
Drink it in. Every day it's somebody attacking Talk's livelihood.
Today it was the Supreme Court. Yeah.
That's a pretty powerful bunch. Yes, it is.
I don't know the rules of how this thing goes, but any time I hear Supreme in front of it, it feels like have a lot of say. Clean sweep.
Nine zip. Talk and the others are marching on Washington.
He's leading the charge. On Inauguration Day? No, no.
On the Supreme Court. Don't overturn the TikTok ruling.
If he comes flopping in, they'll hear him coming. That's the issue with talk.
The way he walks and runs is louder than, like, people who clap.

So the Supreme Court will hear talk coming before they see him,

maybe a mile out, so they'll have time to prepare.

But they don't have the buzzsaw.

No.

That's right behind him.

That marble in there, too.

That's echoing.

Holy shit.

Throughout.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Walking through there.

Clapping.

Like Donald Duck.

Yeah.

Let alone all the other TikTokers I saw on the nightly news news or maybe it was the morning news one or the other tick-tockers crying yeah i don't i don't see him crying i know i think i saw the guy that everybody said was dan orlovsky crying i think saying i'm losing my family he's a working actor what the does he care oh it just looked like It wasn't him. He's a big talker, too.
It was just a TikToker. Yeah, TikToker.
Super, super emotional. A lot of Dan Orlowski lookalikes on TikTok.
Sure. Talk with Lovey, man.
Good run. You did great work with that particular app.
Are we going to have to call this guy Reels on Monday? I started today just to see how it felt. It didn't feel good.
Maybe just call him Goofball. Potentially.
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What's the story of the week that we haven't given enough attention to? What's something that we haven't chatted about enough? Is it the Indy Volleyball team, the Indy Ignite, that have launched their season, professional women's volleyball, here at the Fishers Arena where they're packing it out, and they're undefeated, I do believe. I think they are a wagon.
The Indy Ignite is the name of the women's volleyball team here in Fishers, Indiana. They've been balling.
Is that the story? I actually met them at the bar a couple weekends ago. A great group of people.
Tall. Very tall.
Very athletic. I bet.
They're filling up that Fisher's. What's it called up there, Bruce? You live near that area? Fisher's Event Center.
It was jumping last night. The parking lot was packed.
He said there's been some events that have come through the Fisher's Event Center. This is a brand new venue.
6,500 seats, I think. 7,000 seats.

Something like that.

Somewhere in that.

Brand new venue in Fishers, Indiana,

which is northeast Indianapolis in Indiana or whatever.

And he said there's some events because he's got eyes on a parking lot from where he lives.

Some people come to town.

Boy, there ain't no action.

There is nothing.

This Indy Ignite thing, though,

I think they're starting to fill up even more, and they win. I think it's only going to get going even more.
The location of it, perfect. And if you win, I think people are going to get behind it regardless.
It's awesome. That's a beautiful venue, too, I think.
Yeah, I'll be honest. I have not actually gone to anything.
I only look at the parking lot of tenants, but Indy Ignite, the tenants has been great. Indy Fuel 2, hockey, it's been

packed out for pretty much all of their games

as well. Here we go! Indy's

alive!

Indianapolis Colts going to Berlin

next year. People saying, would you stay?

Saw that. I didn't say that.

No, no, no. I saw people say that.

I didn't say that. People were saying, maybe the

Berlin-Indianapolis Colts, and you take a year

off over there. That's what I think some people were saying.
I was not say that. People were saying, maybe the Berlin-Indianapolis Colts, and you take a year off over there.
You know, that's what... I think some people were saying, I was not saying that, obviously.
They're going to go over there, and they're going to do it. You know? No doubt.
And the Germans are a loyal fan. Bjorn Werner from over there, former Colt, obviously, with the bro...
Football bromance. Bromance.
The football bromance show.

Huge part of growing the NFL over there.

So I think Bjorn deserves a massive amount of recognition

alongside everybody else in that particular show

and the country of Germany being big football fans.

Colts going over there for a game.

One or two, maybe three.

Colts.

Five, six.

Loved you in Indianapolis.

Let's never forget it.

Yes, they are.

It's much bigger than just those who are wearing the uniform at the moment. Bingo.
You know? Sure. So no matter my thoughts on the situation, no matter anybody's thoughts on the situation, the Colts will always be held in high regard.
Yes. Now will people have faith in them? Certainly not.
Not always. No, certainly not.
City doesn't right now. We got shit to do, too.
There's a lot going on here. We got Indy Ignite lighting up.
Pacers are going to be around in the end in the Eastern Conference. Fever just launched a $78 million practice facility for Caitlin Clark and her team there as they're going to continue to only get better and better.
So the Colts need to... Does Indy have a new team in the new women's league that's kicking off soon? That's only down in Miami.
I do believe there's only one arena. Unrivaled.
So many unwords. Undisputed.
Unforgivable. Verse.
Unobtainable. Unobtainable.
Unacceptable. Unfuckwittable Unobtainium That's great They've been trying to get that for a long time There's another one that is coming out Yeah Another one that is coming out I'm sure everybody's going to go watch it after what the second one was You talk about just ruining an absolute Try to tell you You mean the whales? Was the second one not good? I don't remember I thought you loved it I didn't mind the mind the second one.
Really? Yeah. You've been not minding a lot of things.
I think the thing. You're turning into Zito.
You're turning into Zito whenever it comes like. You guys had effort.
You put effort in. I appreciate it.
I respect it. I like it.
Which, once again, I do like. I do like that you two have that.
I do appreciate that you guys just respect and appreciate anybody making content. Like, I like that.
Yeah, I wouldn't't argue i think there's something that launched very recently that i very loudly did not like but i do think but i do think when it comes to those type of movies they're very hard to make and when they can you know maybe the second one wasn't great in comparison to the first but a lot of times that is what happens so you can't compare i don't compare it to the first one i just look at it standalone Is this a good film? We're talking about Avatar, by the first. But a lot of times that is what happens.
So you can't compare it. I don't compare it to the first one.
I just look at it stand alone. Is this a good film? We're talking about Avatar, by the way.
The unobtainium was everything that was underneath the tree out there nine light years away and Pandora. I mean, that's the whole, what we're chatting about.
But Unrivaled is the three-on-three women's basketball league that is tipping off today. Weren't able to land Kaitlyn Clark or Plum, right, I believe? Yeah, I don't think she's in either.
She's not. But Beastu and everybody else is in part of this and they're getting paid good money, right? Yeah, correct.
From our interview with Beastu about this. Yeah, the average is higher than the max for the WNBA, they said.

Bingo.

Yeah, so we thought that it was a chance to maybe take over for the WNBA. But one of the first questions whenever we talked to Beastu,

GOAT, champion, obviously with Liberty next to Sabrina Inescu and team over there,

was you got Kaitlin Clark in there?

And they said, we got a lot of great players, obviously, we're going forward.

And that was, do you got Kaitlin Clark was all was was really the question that I had turns out they do not we shall see how it goes without Caitlin obviously Caitlin brought a lot of new eyes as did her entire draft class obviously Caitlin's not just playing five versus zero okay in college which is why everybody was watching but you what it says, if you look at the stats, follow the ratings, there is a wagon. There's a massive draw.
And it's a good thing, not a bad thing for women's basketball, even though it felt like for a while everybody thought it was bad for women's basketball. I think inevitably it'll be a good thing, and everybody will view it that way, but I'm excited to see how a women's basketball league does without Kaitlyn Clark when Kaitlyn Clark potentially available for three-on-three league.
I think it'll do well, and I think it's got guaranteed contracts for a few years with big investors, so I think they'll continue to draw massive amounts of talent. And good luck to Beastu.
I'm pumped any time an athlete gets some ownership and does something, so good luck to the Unrivaled crew. Something that we haven't talked about that we've kind of been watching all week was the Australian Open.
Oh yeah, what's her name? Danielle Collins. My favorite tennis player of all time.
Dog. I didn't know.
She's not brand new. I did not know that she has been a tennis player for a while now.
Went into Australia, took on australia's bell of the ball i guess one of them and they were letting her know about it the entire time she's talking her shit huh what huh huh why that's what i thought how about that that's kiss and then later she even do kiss my ass to the entire my ash to the entire crew i I let her know she's my new favorite tennis player on earth. You go into somebody else's house and somebody else's trap.
And then you take over their trap. And then you say, kiss my ass.
I love everything about that. And then she did an interview afterwards where she said, basically, hey, Australia, thanks for the paycheck.
You can't even win paycheck. You get more money.
Then she walked out. I'm like, this is a heel.
This is a heel through and through. To win that game and live up to the moment, I respect and appreciate.
What's her name? Danielle Collins. I wish I could get a jersey.
Has she always been doing this stuff? Has she always done this? I don't know. I don't know either.
This is one of those, maybe it was just last year for me, but getting into tennis, especially with the majors and when they kind of whittled down to the quarterfinals and semifinals, it is awesome, actually. I have never really been a tennis guy until last year.
Yeah, because if you're not good, you're going to get exposed. And that's kind of awesome to watch.
And if you're good, there's at least. Yeah, the guys and girls who are at the top are nasty you know we're sliding and shit i mean there is a lot of drama a lot of a lot of drama feels like the crowds are the most insufferable group of people no doubt you know that that's anytime they show the crowds because you think to yourself man that might be a fun thing to go to you know because like the u.s open then they show the crowds going to church you got a clap you can clap every once in a while i guess i'm like i don't know.
The U.S. Open? Then they show the crowds.
Going to church, you can clap every once in a while. I don't know if that's really our crowd.
Travis went. That's kind of more so Wimbledon, I think.
I think Australia is pretty rowdy. They talk about how the U.S.
Open is people are just getting hammered in the stands. Having a good old time.
I get down and watch a little tennis. I didn't know about her.
Favorite tennis player of all time. I'm willing to say it.
Favorite tennis player of all time. Even Finch, Lynch, Marty.
Marty Fish. Marty Fish.
There it is. Marty Finch.
Fish. Great golfer.
Great guy. Love his moxie.
Second favorite tennis player of all time. He.
Well said. Djokovic came out and was like.
Then Agassi.

Daniel Collins is awesome.

Hold on.

I'd like to redo it.

Joker's my favorite.

Sure.

Because he started an entire medical plant.

Bought an entire medicine facility.

For hundreds of millions of dollars.

Because he didn't think that he needed to get the jab.

Because of this tournament.

Because of the Australian.

No, because of the Italian.

Put Joker at the top just because of how.

Yeah. Is that right? He was.
Love that. Then let's put Daniel Collins number two.
Then we got Mr. Fish.
Marty Finch. Marty Finch.
Excuse me. You're right.
Fish. Yep.
Yep. We know.
Yeah. Right.
Marty Fish. Yeah.
Great untool. He left it.
I know. Jenny's documentary.
Jenny, his fan, she's a great pitcher. She is.
She was great. So I apologize.
Both legends. Both ghosts.
And if Jenny played Dennis, I think she'd be great. I would.
Yeah. I mean, that forehand.
Holy fuck. Because you're supposed to check the watch.
I couldn't even imagine accidentally serving it right into it. See ya.
Boom! Boom! Checking that watch. Oh, my God.
Maybe she needs... Jenny Finch is not in my top four tennis players just yet.
Top four softball. Yeah, definitely.
Well, the entire Oklahoma softball team. Of course.
Because how they train me. That coach is awesome.
I remember broken arm. Paisan.

Paisan name.

Patty Gas.

Gasso.

Gasso.

Patty Gasso.

There it is.

Love everything about her.

Love the Oakland.

That's why.

But back to tennis.

We got Joker at number one.

We got Daniel Collins number two.

Marty Fish.

Fish.

Number three.

And then I guess you got to have Mac. SH.
Mac Mackenroe and Agassi both been good on the show. Agassi, I forgot about Agassi.
He wouldn't want to be in your top four. He fucking hates tennis.
No, he did at one time. His dad made him hate tennis.
Now he's back to loving it again. Remember? He loves pickleball.
Did he? Well, he played in that. We know Macaron hated it.
Yeah. Who's the...
Who's the... Serena, obviously.
Jesus Christ. Serena.
That's so rude of me. But that's the top.
She's on your goat list. Not favorite.
It's two different things. Yeah, two different things.
Hey, thanks for just dominating the world for America. We really appreciate it.
Anna Kornikova. Sure.
Is she an American? No. I don't know who that is.
Russian. Sabalenka.
Sabalenka right now is also bringing it. She's number one.
That's just what she do. She's bringing the bone to you.
It's catchy, isn't it, H?

It is.

Pretty catchy.

It's just like more schools get a shot to shine.

You know?

Should we?

Down to two.

Maybe Monday.

Monday we'll run it back.

Hey, I think we got a massive guest on Monday.

Nice.

I think.

Like very large guest.

That'd be great.

Somebody we've never had on the show before.

Stature or size? I think somebody that hasn't done an interview in like eight years either.

Ooh.

Okay.

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I've given them so much money. Yeah.
Yeah. I was thinking about that today.
It's like the amount of time. What is that? The fuck is that? Is that a cat dying? Well, now we wait.
Fucking Bone doing something. Somebody will move.
Funny Bone? Animals in the ceiling? Somebody will move out here. Bone might be going for his sixth Mountain Dew of the day.
No, he's no more pop, remember? Monday that starts, he was still sucking down an extra large Dr. Pepper this morning.
Huh? Talk shit. Talk took a shit upstairs.
That's not good. He should never be pooping up there.
shouldn't with what he brings which is boom yeah every time he poofs he's bringing the boom to you how about on that plane i don't know how the plane didn't go down with him yeah in the back of that first first time i think he felt obligated to do it first time on a plane like that. I would.
Got to go ahead and mark the territory.

Is that an obligation people feel?

When I went to Europe and we were doing this castle tours,

which they kind of forced you to do because there's so many castles over there,

and it's pretty cool.

It's pretty cool to watch the history.

I mean, once you see one, you've basically seen them all.

But, I mean, they are certainly awesome.

I did make a nice little thing.

I'm going to go to the bathroom and all these things.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Just like King Henry's castle, I took a dump inside of it. Yeah.
Castle. Like the Colts forced you to do the tour? I wasn't over there with the Colts.
I was over there for soccer. Oh, okay.
But it's just like basically an easy thing to do. Like, hey, what are you doing on Monday? Oh, here's a sightseeing tour.
Go see this castle. And then when you see the castle, you're seeing also a river, a bridge, a whole thing because where they are always located.
They sweet that's just like an easy european day filler and then you go eat in their little town and do all their little activities and then you go back to wherever you're staying and then the next day what are you doing oh we're gonna go see a castle in this town it's different and it's gonna be a different castle here do the whole thing and it is cool like all of it is cool you know it is because everything's so damn old it is so so so crazy so old it's and i love how much passion the people seemingly have for it you know to like uphold it all they understand that tourism is the reason why said town is potentially doing great some people do they feel that way there's other europeans i think that didn't want me there of course that happens but yeah i try to go to the bathroom mark my territory and all those castles. Let them know what I've been there.

Was it a toilet or was it the old school

like a hole?

Like eight holes that just drops into the big pit.

I don't think Europe does the holes

thing anymore.

Japan had a couple of those

where you had to grab the wall.

Yep, poop pits.

Just a hole in the ground those sound kind of

awesome one of those because you're kind of on a squatty potty yeah chasing yeah whatever those like those kind of lost some steam what happened to those squatty potties i think everybody started stubbing their toes off them whenever they were next to the toilet at night when they were going to the bathroom that's my personal experience i don't know what everybody else is i'll turn the corner boom that's just what it do it's literally right there on the right side of the toilet it just stubs my toe it's like okay i'm about done with this piece of oak in my bathroom just so i can poop a tiny bit better yeah they did have some good steam though going they did have some For steamers. Yeah.
Mm-hmm. It's been a good steam.
TikTok had it. It did.
It's a good run. Did I just see a video of the CEO coming out saying, we want to live, we want to survive, we want to work together, we want to drive? Is that what he said? Oh, really? Is that what he said? Is that what he said? I don't know.
And what's AI and what's not, which is another massive piece of the entire conversation. Was it speaking English speaking english or mandarin what's that you thought the nflpa thing was fake no that was my assumption with the nflpa like hey we can replace 150 people with two ais let's talk about that did you know the nflpa had at least 150 employees holy shit who's paying for that the money they're taking from all the players i i assume right how do you if you that's the first thing i thought of 150 people you want to lay off or you're trying to like offer packages for them to leave and give them a year's pay for that's a ton of money to get rid of all these people but how many total employees do you have yeah who's paying whenever you up fees hey we need to up the fees because the war chests and everything we're doing for you nothing everything we're doing for you we're going to take more money hey you're going to want us though okay let's show you a video let's tell you what it used to be like okay used to be real bad see these images these real images see this dirt rolling around the locker room see that rabies infested animals at your practice these guys had to work three jobs play football then we came in and we made it happen for them to make this an actual professional sport was it you or was it somebody back in the day or was it tv money as well that helped morph the game into a new dimension yeah and tell me how you play into this you just kind of got dropped into this thing after it already started or how are you hustling this entire situation how are you making it better well we're hiring we're expanding we're growing we need more money okay i don't think you fucking do okay we want that thing to be you know that's why this is there's a new guy running it so that's why this is probably a good thing the new guy said hey we can hey let's we got to become more efficient here finance guy remember if i do recall he was a finance guy who has become the new nfl pa.
And I assume he looked at the P&Ls every single year,

and he looked at about 200 people.

And he said, we're paying them how much and what do they do?

What exactly do you do here?

And he said, get rid of them.

Get rid of them.

And I like that.

I think what we're doing is heading to much, much, much better place for the NFLPA,

which means much better place for the NFL as a whole.

I know that there is always going to be an adversarial relationship

between the players and the league,

but the way the NFLPA, in my personal experience,

went about trying to do business,

was the dumbest I've ever been a part of and experienced.

I mean, and they gave away my name and my likeness and even Boomstick, whatever it was, the entire thing. Hey, we got you an extra 25 cents a shirt.
You're welcome. It's like, go fuck yourself.
Yeah. How about that one? How about just cutting me off at the knees, basically, from a business standpoint? Thanks, NFLPA.
Thanks for making my life better. I appreciate that.
Hey, I've been tested eight times a month for like 25 straight months can you guys tell them to back off a little bit and then they text me three months later when i'm already out of the program you good okay okay i am good yeah thanks i am good now 150 at least did you know there was even 150 employees? I had no idea there was 150. Should have expected that

though. Where are they? I assume they're

spread out around the country? Do they have headquarters?

New York?

Google's

telling me that the NFL Players Association

has had, as of

November 2024, approximately

528 employees across various

locations including North America, Asia,

and Oceania.

These motherfuckers just stealing this money.

Wow. So they owe

I'm going to go. Approximately 528 employees across various locations, including North America, Asia, and Oceana.
Oceana.

These motherfuckers just stealing this money.

Wow.

So they owe Panini, the sports trading car company, $7.8 million.

And this is apparently what the leadership is doing to help pay back that money.

Allegedly, not allegedly, this is what they're being reported as the fiscal year in 2024.

They made $410 million in revenue and spent $389 million in expenses. I can't.
A lot of steak dinners. Yeah, holy shit.
I can't take them seriously. A lot of fully baked potatoes.
Yeah. With the extra cheese, bacon, the little green onions thing.
Yep, the chives. I don't mind them.
I'm not getting a baked potato ever, but if I am, I would like all that. No sour cream, though, please.
No way. No way.
But I'll get the butter in there. Oh, yeah.
Mix it up. Yeah, to make what? Mashed potatoes.
Bingo. Boom.
That's just what you do. All right, let's do our picks.
Let's get the fuck out of here. Got nowhere to go tonight or tomorrow.
How about it? How about it? How about it? How about it? It's been a pretty wild ride. Break open the ice cream, baby.
Yeah, I went to bed last night talking to Sam. She was like, where are you off to? And I'm like, I think I'm home tomorrow.
Yeah, I am. Saturday too.

Home. It's been a fun run.

Lucky to do it all. We'll do it

again 10 times out of 10.

And we only have one college game day

left on the season.

One college football game left

on the season.

Four NFL games this weekend.

Two the following weekend.

Then one two weeks from that. Pro Bowl games, too.
Royal Rumble. That as well.
In Indianapolis. Yeah.
In between championship round and the Super Bowl, that feels like good timing for a magical event in a beautiful city. That city was built for marks.
It really was. It was built for to host this type of event.
What were you going to say, Tone? They're still doing Pro Bowl games? Yeah. I think they're doing it during the week, too.
I think it's during the week, and I think it rolls into Sunday. I think it's a full-on thing.
Can't wait. We may or may not have been asked to be a part of it.
They suck. It was kind of my lean whenever I gave my answer.
Yeah. Love that we're're celebrating it The people we would have to work with Wise, production wise Yeah, probably never gonna do that ever But also, the whole thing Do we wanna Do we wanna act like we like it Where's it at? Orlando, which is a beautiful place Could go to Disney And I like that you're trying to save the whole thing.
So I appreciate that. I think some of the things are just, we're making a mockery out of the NFL here.
Yeah. Seems like this is a social media degree, Haver, who doesn't know ball, thinking of ways to make football players look like doofuses.
But they're great football players. So that's good news.
Sure. But I think they're going to make it better.
I think they're going to continue to make it better. I thought most AP voters go to that, don't they? Tony, you need to get eyes on the product that you voted in.
That's a good point. I don't even understand where that came from.
AP, you're the one that's deciding who's the MVP. Nothing to do with Pro Bowl.
Best of the best. You don't vote for Pro Bowl? No, just all pro.
Yep. I'm happy you guys don't vote for Pro Bowl.
Yeah, it's Mickey Mouse. No.
No, no. I think ball-dowers.
Not that you're not. Not that all 50 AP voters.
Sure. Who is the Pro Bowl? Players? Coaches? Fans? Yeah.
They should get refs in there, too. If it was just players and coaches, I would have some respect.
As soon as you let fans vote.

You lose interest.

They lose all credibility.

I voted.

I voted too.

I'm a fan.

You a fan?

I voted.

What the hell are you trying to say, Tony?

Bill voted.

You guys are technically fans, yeah, but you're not fans.

Mitt voted.

I wasn't a fan.

I remember I got attacked.

Mitt did vote. Mitt's a big fan.
What does this jersey say to you? Says you're a mark. That's exactly what we're talking about.
Yeah. Quadruple XL head coach, Vrabel jersey.
Double. With how small you've gotten, that thing looks like it is a tablecloth.
Built for a shirt cock session. I don't think I fully know what that means.

It means your cock's going to be sticking out the bottom?

Bingo.

Yeah, like Daffy.

Shirt cock, precisely.

I thought you were.

I didn't know if that was the case because the length of it, I was trying to check.

I thought maybe you were going to tie that son of a bitch right here at the waist.

Make sure it fits nice and snug.

You ever see little kids, sometimes before they go to bed,

they're just wearing tiny whiteys and a big t-shirt. It's basically what he's doing.
Okay, got it. There's no whiteys.
Nothing. Maybe socks.
Let's pick our games. Just right there on your forehead.
Dangling. First game Saturday, 4.30.
Favored by 8.5. The back-to-back Super Bowl champions on a quest to do something nobody has ever done before, even the incredible New England Patriots dynasty, win three straight Super Bowls.
To do that, they're obviously going to have to win tomorrow against a Houston Texans team led by a young stud in C.J. Stroud.
With Nico Collins back in the lineup, he's opened up the offense for he in Slowick.

D'Amico Ryans leads a defense that has dogs across the board.

They're playing their best ball.

Lassiter, Stingley on the outside have both gotten picks very, very recently.

And then Will Hunter and Daniil Hunter and Will Anderson Jr.

Absolutely game wreckers.

AJ, eight and a halfa-half points spread.

Kansas City Chiefs at home.

Joe Mixon's questionable.

Is that correct for Texans?

Do we know that?

That's what it was reported, but he's definitely playing.

Yeah.

You think so?

Okay.

Well, yeah, he'll figure it out.

You know, I've gone back and forth with this.

Eight-and-a-half does seem like a lot.

I know there's all kind of history going back with the Chiefs covering the spread or their lack thereof, I guess, but I'm going to take the Texans here in the points. Wow.
That feels like a logical bet. What's the public doing on this game? Texans plus eight and a half? Just because of what the Chiefs have done? 55% on the Chiefs.
Okay. Okay.
Let's go to the SeatGeek ticket pricing here, just to see how much money it is to get into this particular game. Texans at Chiefs, $4.26 average resale price for this particular game.
Obviously, that's a lot of money. Not as much as the Commander's Lions game or the LA Rams Eagles game.
Certainly more than the Ravens bills, which doesn't make any sense here. No sense.
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It is the greatest. They got tickets for everything, including these playoffs and divisional round.
Okay, let's get back to the $426 ticket price. Kansas City Chiefs favored by 8.5.
Taylor Swift's going to be here.

Did we see that stat with Taylor in the building?

What they have been?

I think they're like 11-7 or something like that.

They've only lost 3 straight up and they've covered 11

out of 18. Yeah, 11-7.

So 11-7 I believe was

against the spread with her in the building.

Give me the Kansas City Chiefs

to kind of do what they did last year

whenever they had to play the Bills on the road.

You remember they were doing Snow Angels?

Oh, yeah.

And they were everything.

They kind of go crazy.

Kelsey talking shit.

Yeah, the Chiefs are still the Chiefs.

I think that's what we need to remember.

Eight and a half is a lot.

I'm scared to death to make this pick

because I've lost so much money betting on the Chiefs

and they never cover.

So eight and a half is a massive number for them to have to cover, especially against a red-hot Houston Texans team representing the AFC South. Thank you, guys.
Thank you, guys, for doing what you're doing. I appreciate everything you've done for the AFC South over the last few years, holding it down.
I think they're a great team. I love everything about them.
I just don't think they walk into Arrowhead and get a win, and I think this could easily be a two game. So give me the Chiefs.
Alright, let's go to the second game. Commanders, Lions, over 155.5.
Everybody thinks it's going to be a high scoring affair. Jayden Daniels is obviously a mobile quarterback and the Lions defense have not fared well against quarterbacks that can run.
Terry McLaurin's a weapon, always going to be open even whenever he's not. The defense for for the commanders, led by Dan Quinn, far on, make plays.
They're taking on a Detroit Lions wagon, though. A team that has been at the top of the NFL all season long.
Even whenever they lost every starter on their defensive side, they still won games. Number one seed in the NFC for a reason.
Jared Goff, Jameer Gibbs, you name it. Amon Ross, St.
Brown. Who's the tight end? Sam LaPorta.
So good. Where did he go to school? University of Iowa.
Feels like Iowa is tight end. It is.
We can have any other argument we want, but it is. Ben Johnson.
Is this potentially his last game ever as a Detroit Lion? Maybe. How about Aaron Glenn? Is this his last game ever as a Detroit Lion? Three more games.
Sounds like it. That's Evan Foxy.
Three more games. You think you cover? You said that you've envisioned an ass beating here for the Detroit Lions.
Yeah, I think we cover. I think there's a reason it's the most expensive ticket in town.
People from Detroit, people from Michigan have been waiting for this. Our entire lives are finally the one seed.
We're finally Super Bowl favorites. It's going to be so loud for a rookie quarterback to go in there and try to win a playoff game.
So I think we control the clock, ground and pound, win this game. We got Montgomery back, so I'm feeling pretty damn good about this one.
Okay, AJ, who do you like? How do you like it? So, I mean, I love the Lions, everything they do. I think the Lions could absolutely win the Super Bowl.
I know Pac-Man thinks that as well. But in this game, I am taking the Commanders.
Nine and a half feels like a lot. That place will be loud.
It will be rocking. I'm sure Kid Rock will get that crowd, you know, all riled up pregame, halftime, whenever it matters.
But give me the Commanders. I did hear there's Kid Rock performance pregame, halftime, and post-show.
Is that right? Kid Rock's playing? Yeah, think we're gonna win by about a thousand yeah that's huge okay i don't we don't know if any of that is true uh we do know m&m's gonna be there though i assume so we do know the walkout is gonna be awesome all time we do know mcdc is gonna do his thing we do know anzalone back oh so good still all the way back changed everything for us here and glenn he brought it, how many times did he bring it against the Vikings? 16 times or something like that? Yeah, I believe it was 16. Most out of any team in the entire season.
Yep. Rookie quarterback, I know he can run well.
And I know Jaden Daniels has done a fantastic job. But this defense shows a lot.
And they bring it. And they're still bringing it.
Yeah. I think the commanders have had a wonderful start to a new era, a new year.
I think this could be a two-score game too. Give it to the Lions.
Jeez, Elise. Bobby Wagner also very banged up.
But they have said he is going to go no matter what. Bobby Wagner football.
I'm just going to throw this out there as well. No punts in this game is plus 2,000.
And the actual total for punts is 6.5. So you can get under 6.5 punts for minus 140 on this game.
Okay, that's a great bet it sounds like. Especially with what the Lions do.
They do not punt much. And even if they do have to punt, he's not going to.
Fake punts don't count, right? No. Even if there is a chance to punt, there's a chance both these teams will actually just fake it and say, you thought we were just going to give the ball back.
Absolutely not. Go ahead, Tony.
The commanders went for it four times last week. Okay, so under six and a half punts feels like a very solid.
But then this is also one of those games that could become such a cagey affair early that you just get mind blown. So I'm not necessarily going to jump on that.
Gumpy's a good gambler, though, so he loves it. Give me the Lions minus nine and a half.
To go back to our NFL players conversation, I just got a text from Phil. We got paid by the NFLPA this year.
Pat McAfee. Wow.
$1.31. Dude.
Don't spend it in one place. Where are we going to eat? I don't know.
That might be a thousand things. That might be a thousand things that they sold my name on.
$1 money on buck 31 we're not 100 sure phil said this actually just came in check it out and it's a payment remittance for a dollar 31 nice how do you even get to a buck 31 their deals are such shit 150 people laid off there's another how many did you say? Was there 524? Oh my god.

Let's get to the divisional round.

LA Rams, Philadelphia Eagles. Eagles

favored by 6.5 at

home. Supposed to be 3-5

inches of snow.

Can you pull up the weather graphic actually as we

check out what the temperature will be?

32 at kickoff. The coldest it'll be is 31.

It'll feel like 22 at times

Thank you. inches of snow can you pull up the weather graphic actually as we check out what the temperature will be 32 a kickoff the coldest it'll be is 31 it'll feel like 22 at times in that stadium 10 11 mile an hour gusting winds in philadelphia for the johns out there three to five inches of snow is the big story for me i like the philadelphia eagles minus six and a half although i love puka nakuha coming on the show the other day and matthew stafford I believe this particular weather plays into the hands of the Philadelphia Eagles with Saquon Barkley, that offensive line and who they have become this year.
But I love what this Rams team has done. This is the division round.
There's only eight teams left. All these teams are great.
Pukunakua is an absolute dog. But I think this is the year Saquon Barkley has tried to prove that he is a difference maker, a game breaker.
Same with that offensive line. A lot of people talking about these Eagles teams being able to do it, they say Jalen Hurts ain't able to do it.
Well, I don't think that's what they're going to rely upon. Young defensive line for the Los Angeles Rams, very, very, very, very good.
This is not an understatement of them. But the run game and what they do over there in Statland and the way they set things up, it's a sight to see.
I think a 6.5-point win could be done by the Eagles. I'll roll with the home Eagles minus 6.5.
AJ, how about you? So I flip-flopped back and forth on this one. Even as you were speaking, I'm trying to, I guess, go against my instincts on this one.
But when I first saw this game pop up and I started thinking about it, I was thinking Rams just because I think six and a half is a lot. I think the Rams have a good chance to win this game.
I think Stafford will be able to handle that cold weather. I'm taking the Rams here, minus six and a half.
Or plus six and a half, sorry. I want to let you know, all these big numbers, it's hard not to take them.
Yeah, because, I mean, especially with the Chiefs, the Chiefs against the Jags, I think it was two years ago, they were winning by 14 the entire game. And then the Jags' last drive, the Chiefs were just kind of like, hey, keep everything in front of you, and then they only won by seven.
Obviously vastly different because it's college ball, but Texas is going down to tie the game. Yes.
Yeah. Jack Sawyer, fourth quarter, strip sack, touchdown, two score.
They win by 14. It's like that was not how that game no that's not how that game was you know those things happen in ball uh i've picked all the favorites you picked all the dogs i feel like an asshole going chalk in this entire thing will i continue baltimore ravens versus the buffalo bills in buffalo let's go back to the weather thing, shall we? I believe it's going to be very chilly.
It's going to be 19 degrees at kickoff. It'll get down to 17.
It'll feel like it's 11. Six to seven mile power winds.
Not too shabby, but we will have about an inch of snow gusting through. Bills Mafia.
I love the thought of Lamar Jackson in Baltimore being able to get over the hump and win it all, especially with the addition of Derrick Henry. Was he the missing piece? I also love the thought of Josh Allen basically having to put this entire team on his back and lead a young bunch of dogs to a promised land playing better football than they've ever played with a defense.
I guess if you listen to Chuck Pagano and all the experts that are very confident in what they do this is what we're going to do no matter who you are we're going to play nickel and we're going to do our thing regardless of the setup AJ how do you see this game going as the Ravens are favored by one in Buffalo man this is I mean this is a game that I think everyone's kind of circling.

This could be an instant classic, no question.

But the more I look at this game, I love the Bills and what Josh Allen does.

But man, I can't go against the Ravens right here and Lamar and Derrick Henry and what they're doing.

So I will take the Ravens on the road, minus one.

Okay, Connor, what was your question?

I was going to ask where the money was, just because this game is so...

It's one where I wouldn't know where the public – you couldn't assume. 50-50.
Tough. Jeez.
I don't like this one. It's hard.
Love both of them. Yeah, so much.
So thankful for both these teams. Yes.
For what they did for the NFL season this year. That's what I was thinking with the

AFC. It's so crazy.
During the

Brady time, there was never

a time where it was like this.

Every single year, and Grinch, not this year

because Burrow's not in it, but between Mahomes,

Burrow, Lamar,

Josh Allen, every year there's going to be

the conversation. One of them can't win.

These two teams have got a lot of friends in both buildings too.

A lot of friends in both buildings. You know who to take.
It's the Ravens. Josh Allen's been special.
Exactly. He's been special this year, brother.
Exactly. He has been special.
I agree. I mean, like...
I do. He's winning.
He's literally just... He looks like a youth football where he's just putting a team on his back against NFL guys.
You agree with that? That's literally what it has looked like on many games. It's a youth football where there's one kid that's more athletic and bigger and stronger and faster than everybody else, and he just takes over the game.
That is what it has felt like with Josh Allen this year. Now, Grant, is it different because Lamar is able to do the same thing and Derek Henry is able to do the same thing and Patrick Ricard is 280 pounds and Mark Andrews is all the way back into the swing of things and likely is able to do the same thing.
And Derek Henry is able to do the same thing. And Patrick Ricard is 280 pounds.
And Mark Andrews is all the way back into the swing of things. And likely he's able to do shit that I don't think a lot of people give him enough credit for because of how athletic, powerful, and dominant he is at the line.
And he's talking about 22X. Chuck was saying about them bringing in another tackle in there and just ram jam football against the Buffalo Bills, especially with this weather.
It's hard not to think that.

Zay Flowers out for practice yet again.

He's not going to play.

I have a stat from at Williamson NFL.

Against the Steelers last week,

the Ravens played just eight snaps with three wide receivers on the field.

Yet, Pittsburgh played almost half their snaps in nickel,

which we talked about.

Chuck talked about in the Buffalo Bills.

Obviously, the Ravens ran for 300 yards. So, will the Bills still stay in nickel all game we talked about.
Chuck talked about in the Buffalo Bills. Obviously, the Ravens

ran for 300 yards, so will the Bills

still stay in nickel all game long or not?

We will see, but just a little tidbit.

I think if the Bills stay in nickel, the Ravens

are going to bring the

boom.

That's just what they'll do.

They'll bring the boom to you.

I'll take the Ravens. don't like it though That's a hard one to pick That's fucked up that we gotta pick that game Because you don't want either one to lose I would like them both to be in next week And then the Super Bowl I'd like them both to be in the Super Bowl It's not possible I'm actually very bummed out that we're gonna lose one of those things It's gonna be loud And Aaron talked about it Aaron talked about it AJ talks.
He was right. It's like, I'm actually very bummed out that we're going to lose one of those things.
Yeah. And it's going to be loud.
And Aaron talked about it, yeah. Aaron talked about it.
AJ talked about it. He was right.
It's like, Aaron's had to build up the who cares mentality after years and years and years of being murdered after a great season and not winning the Super Bowl. So he's a little jaded, I think, whenever he talks about who gives a shit what any of these bucks say with a microphone.
You know, that is kind of, I think he's had to live through it so much that that is how he has had to frame it. But there will certainly be a lot of noise on Monday whenever whichever team loses, whichever quarterback is no longer playing.
And I want to let everybody know, we don't think it's fair here. Nope.
It's not fair. We love them both.
We're thankful for what they did to this season. Amen.
The performances. Week in, week out.
The style of football. The way you went about doing your business, both of you.
We appreciate you. Genuinely.
Now, for hard knocks, Ravens lose. It's over.
Oh, yeah. So, we know who NFL Films is pulling for.
Without a doubt. Which? Can we call Keith Costner? Let me call Keith Costner.
If I'm a Buffalo fan, I'm definitely spinning that yarn. Yeah, hold the phone.
We have some breaking news before we get out of here. Adam Schefter has tweeted information they told us this morning was potentially coming but wouldn't stay on the show.
So, he doesn't want to get it wrong. I can't get it wrong.
You know, the way he operates. Titans haven't offered a contract yet, but they plan to try to hire Mike Borganzi.
Mike Big Brain Borganzi. The Chiefs' Assistant General Manager as their new general manager per sources.
Haven't offered him a contract, but they're going to try to hire him because he's currently in the middle of a dynasty run, a Super Bowl run with the Kansas City Chiefs. He felt obligated to put this tweet out for some reason.
I don't know why, because obviously, they're going to try. You never hear Schefter saying they're going to try to hire.
So let's assume that they think it's close. Maybe it's close to the sides.
Haven't started negotiations yet, but both sides want to get the deal done if they can per sources. Okay, so Borgonzi said, I'm not focusing on that.
We've got to win the Super Bowl. But yes, we will.
We'll get with that at some point. So Schefter probably felt like other people were potentially going to get that information at some point.
I need to report it now. Thought he might have had that by the time we went live.
He did not. Now he's got more information.
Feels good about it. Congrats to Paisan Baganzi heading down to Nashville.
Makes sense. To be the general manager.
Great time. Now Callahan's down there.
Are they together? How do they feel about each other? Hopefully that's able to work out because Nashville is a wonderful town. Who's our quarterback, Dunder? The Pack said they're not looking for one.
They currently don't have one. They got a number one overall pick, which is worth a lot if you were to trade out, no matter what.
Redoing their stadium, right? Aren't they renovating their whole stadium? Oh, yeah. Renovating the stadium.
I mean, Nashville is like... Good spot.
Doug Goat. I almost said it's the best city in America.
It's up there. It's definitely top three.
Definitely. Just like cities.
I think they're so hospitable. You rarely see bullshit.
I mean, obviously, there's certainly crime that takes place. But that's a place where there's a lot of drunks having a great time celebrating a lot.
And very rarely does it turn into a fucking know pittsburgh's a great time okay i used to vacation in pittsburgh yeah that's what my off season was but everybody gets boozed up you gotta yeah you gotta you gotta keep ready you know you gotta you gotta be on nashville feels like a good time all the time every time i've been there awesome and then the people that live there awesome every person i've met that lives in nashville is like awesome people so i think that's a beautiful city i hope the titans get going because their fan base and the people that sing the national anthem at those games are like megastars we used to play down there every year and it was just like oh here's a grammy award winner grammy award winner megastar singing the national anthem it's like that place could be awesome I hope they choose to do that. I hope it ends up happening.

All right, let's get the hell out of here.

We made our picks.

We'll be back Monday.

We'll be live from Mercedes-Benz Stadium, I believe.

Hell yeah.

College game day set.

Shout out to the ESPN people setting it up for us.

Yeah.

Con man stealing the trophy. Ha!

It's mine!

I think it's for all the morbles.

It is for morbles. Countdown to one.
The thing that sucks, loser of this game, just was distracted by the transfer portal and the NIL thing that everybody else has been able to take advantage of, and you end up with nothing. And everybody will celebrate the other team.
So you're about a month and a half behind everybody else? And trying to do what you are for next year? That's whym is so important now very much because you got to focus on what tomorrow is as opposed to what's going on right now i think that's interesting i think they're gonna have to figure out the schedule and the calendar yeah they believe all of it yeah because the best teams shouldn't be behind the like that's not you should be punished and i'm just speaking I haven't done full research on what the answer is.

I am a solutions guy as opposed to just always pointing out the problem.

So I will try to get one of those at some point. But you shouldn't be punished for being good or great.
No. Like that should never go.
That should never be the case. Will they ever figure it out? April 8th.
Did you hear about the... So there was a big ruling that affected the April 8th ruling from current administration.
What will that look like in a week, actually, in this entire thing? I think that whole thing is a big question mark as well on what it's going to look like. I just have to comment.
During their meeting at the 2025 American Football Coaches Association convention, which Bill kind of talked about a little bit when he was on one of these last two weeks, the coaches supported to move it to a single portal window from January 2nd to January 12th. They should move it to April.
They should just keep the April one. January 2nd to January 12th is still when they're playing the college football play.
One day after the semis. Or no, no, the quarters.
They should keep the spring one. They should get rid of the middle of season one.
They should keep the spring one personally. But everybody's going to say, get a spring ball in, get a summer in, get a do that whole thing.
All right. Spring one too.
Semester score, are we not thinking about that? No kidding. No.
Well, I thought that's what we were thinking about. No, we are not.
We were thinking about school. That's just what they do.
I'm thinking about that case. You're talking about the case? The case.
You're talking about the caseola? Case. How much do you think Borgansi's getting down there to be a GM? What is a GM number? Did you see us grill Shefty on his Kevin O'Connell projections on his contract? He's like, high-end guys get 19, 20, 17, 18, 19, 20.
Kevin O'Connell probably get 11. It's like, guy won fucking 14 games.
What are we? Why is Shefty doing that? Shefty hamstringing him publicly, too. Well, then he caught himself.
He said, I'm not negotiating. I'm sorry.
I'm not negotiating against Kevin O'Connell. Get everything you want.
I'm just telling. 35 years of experience is what I'm expecting for his second deal.
So it's almost like it's not your performance. It's how long have you been.
It's almost like you graduate almost to those, is what he was kind of alluding to. McVay gets like 20.
But also he, every single year, is like,

I might go do TV. They just offered me 30 million a year to do TV.
Yeah.

That was a wild time. Eventually he will.
Eventually

hopefully McVay does go to the booth because I think he

will be great on TV. King Kerr.
Same with

Kevin O'Connell. Yeah.

Same with Mike Tomlin.

Oh yeah. Same with Mike Vrabel.

He's never leaving Cushion, so don't worry about

that. Chris Ballard would be great on TV.
Yeah? Eight years. Are we going to do it this year or not? I mean, it's cool.
Absolutely not. We're in the same boat.
We're literally in the exact same boat here. I mean, you've had your team.
Now Chris Greer's been in Miami forever. Yeah, but you're in a worse boat, Gump, because any time we bring up, like, that team's kind of soft.
It's, like, kind of similar to. Who was the team of super soft? Who would be affected by the cold? What was that one team? Oh, the Finns.
Yeah, it was the Dolphins. It's way worse.
That is a shame. We had a guy that tapped out because he was tired and nobody really talks about it.
No. We apologize for that.
We apologize that you guys are that. I mean, you gotta fix it, right? You went into Green Bay, lost.
Went to New York last game of the year and lost. You know, Jets stunk.
I mean, whoa. McDermott, Vrabel, whoever they hired New York and then McDaniel.
I know who's coming out alive. Playoffs, too, the last three years.
Supreme Commander Mike. Boom.
All right, let's get out of here. Tony, you want to win some people some money or no? Yes.
Yeah. We do.
We worked on it this morning. Really? Because you were throwing? Was it because you were worried I was going to do this or just because you wanted to work on it for your personal...
No, we were just throwing a bit. I was fucking spinning it.
He said, fucking throw one in that hoop, don't he? He said, all right, here we go. He put one in the hoop? Yes, he did.
Drilled it. You put one in the hoop already? Yeah.
Okay, so you took the top off. Yeah, tops off.
Tops off. Yeah, yeah.
Chuck, I would like to let everybody know, immediately after the show ended, Chuck threw a football right into that hoop right over there. Yeah, I believe it.
As soon as the show ended. Literally soon.
Bank swish. Would have been 50.
Sick of that gimmick. Yeah, me too.
I'm kind of bummed out about it. Tone Diggs, happy Divisional Round weekend.
Happy Divisional Round weekend. Happy Feel Good Friday.
Happy Feel Good Friday. Why don't you win 30 people $500 by putting that football into that hoop

right over there? Go ahead.

Oh, um. No, remember

what we worked on. Remember what we worked on.

That's it. Remember what we worked on.

We're not doing any more of that.

Tony, you're falling away.

Step into it.

I told him it's over. I did that for Tony, his friend.

Appreciate that. Okay.

Alright, fair enough.

Fucking drilled that. Maybe throw one left-handed,

Tone. That's what it looked like.

Let's go. I did that for Tony, his friend.
Appreciate that. Okay.
All right, fair enough.

Fucking drilled that whistle.

Maybe throw one left-handed, Tone.

That's what it looked like.

That's the problem.

As soon as this guy opened his mouth,

talked about working on it earlier,

there was no chance. Yeah, but Tone,

I just want to look at what, Tone.

Tone, I have great faith in your athletic ability.

I do.

Personally.

I've seen you do magical things,

both on a football and a baseball field.

That was a long time ago.

Agreed.

For all of us.

But, AJ just said, maybe you should throw with your other hand that's how bad those throws were AJ's an asshole no that's always that's my first if I miss right hand I'm gonna throw it left I throw decent left they're pretty God he doesn't make this Tony he got it I always think Tim Te. Oh, man.
God, I always think Tim Tebow. Oh, yeah.
When I go, literally in my head right there, I was like, Tim Tebow. What would Tim do? That's how I, because I feel like he was a righty, maybe.
Yeah, might have been. I feel like the, just like kind of Tua, they have the conversation about Tua, like Tua was forced to be a lefty in that entire thing.
But the way Tim threw is either he was too jacked, he wasn't able to get the full fluid motion, or he was potentially right-handed. But nonetheless, won a playoff game in the NFL as quarterback, lefty.
How about whenever he was just jacking bombs? He killed him. Dropping home runs.
Was he a righty or a lefty in baseball? Lefty. Massive, too.
I want to say he threw right-handed, though. In baseball? Yeah.
I don't remember. I'm pretty sure he did.
That would be wild. His throwing style was, like, not very – it was very robotic.
It wasn't like a fluet. Yeah, because he came down.
That was that whole documentary. It was kind of long.
He had that long motion. No, he threw lefty.
They were working on it. Yeah.
They tried to change his motion. Do you remember that? Yes.
And the balls were just thrown into the ground doesn't happen you can't do that well not wholesale change but he didn't like he didn't wholesale change his whole motion like he he tightened it up and made it more efficient he didn't like hey we need a whole new throwing motion i think lamar went right here with it i think somebody told him like hey probably three quarter is where you're supposed to be you see a a lot of his, like, dimes. It's like.

Unreal.

Unreal.

His feet don't even have to be set, and that dude can just laser.

Yeah.

Patrick Mahomes, he has an interesting throw as well, Patrick.

Because it doesn't look like he should have as strong of an arm as he has,

but he has whatever you need in it.

Yeah.

He has whatever you need.

We need this thing to be 60 yards.

We need this thing to be 20 yards.

He's got it in there.

He's great.

How's Jordan Love?

Jordan Love's like a. He's got a sidearm gunslinger.
Yeah, he is a little bit. He's got a cannon.
He does have a cannon. His big thing, though, this year was the same thing.
He was throwing, falling away all the time, wasn't really setting his feet. So, hopefully, you know, who knows, maybe Dan Orlovsky will fix that next year.
Why are you – Funny, Connor. Connor, where are you at? What's that? Where'd you go?

Do you want to showcase the back of that jersey?

No, no.

I thought someone back there was big.

Why are you laughing?

No, no, no.

What are you talking about? You don't think Dano could fix that?

I think he can.

I just want him to stay 100 miles away from Drake, man.

That's all.

He's so weak.

I'm a huge fan of Dano.

I want him in the league.

Chepti said today he's 41.

He might be a head coach at 45. Okay.
Okay. What's your problem? I want to see it.
I want to see it. Dan's got all friends that are great coaches.
Oh, okay. He has all the knowledge in the world.
He has a passion. They just beat Bo and Gunner the other night in fucking hoops.
They did. You know what? Maybe he should coach the Spurs.
I don't know. Is Pop giving that up? Is he still a coach, John? Pop's sick.
Yeah. What do you mean? He had a stroke earlier in the year, and he's been sideline.
Really? Yeah, actually. Really? I didn't know it was a stroke.
Jeez, that's pretty serious. Yeah, they said small stroke, I believe.
Tease pease. Wemby.
But Orlovsky might come in there and... Oh, Chuck and Dan.
Yeah. Chuck and Dan.
Chuck and Dan. He's the head coach.
Chuck and Dan. Chuck and Dan.
All right. Tony, you want to step back up to the plate or what? No.
Fire. Come on, Tony.
Step into it, man. You made it when you did it.
I don't think so. It's been enough time now where nobody even remembers.
I don't know if that should happen. Fire.
Come on. Telling 30 people 500 bucks on your shoulder.
Step into that thing. All right.
All right. Step into that thing.
Don't fall away like Jordan Love. We only got two balls left anyway, so really, what's the worst that could happen? It's already been bad enough.
You fucking nailed the West Virginia helmet. Step right in.
Ladies and gentlemen, Tom Diggs here grew up on Holly at Drive. Big balls are great when they're inflated to fucking real capacity.
We do have some deflated footballs around here. Yeah.
We got a Patriots fan. This got disproved.
In 2014, it happened. In 2015, they were like, we should start looking into this and check the PSI before games and after games.
And guess what they found out after all those games? Oh, the thing that happened in 2014 happens in every single fucking game. And that got released after the fact, but no one talks about it because it's not fun and cool and hip look for softballs this weekend as we got three cold games one game in the dome uh those are a little bit soft we do not keep them fully inflated for whatever reason i know with those big old mitts you like that thing to be nice and thick but nonetheless you're gonna put that baby duke 2.0 into that hoop right over there and if you you do, 30 people will win $500!

See?

Step in!

Step in! I know he didn't have ears in, but he didn't feel

fully committed. He was.

AJ's saying, much like

that Bigfoot hunting trip,

feels like you don't believe enough.

And that's why this has been a fruitless

experience for the last few times. Let's make

this a fruitful giveaway. Come on.
Let's go ahead and put that ball into that hoop right over there. It went 30 people.
Oh, that's the spot, though. That was the line.
Holy shit. That was your best throw yet.
Step into that thing, finally. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the final ball.
This is the Baby Duke 1.0. Yeah.
This is the Ridge. It's a little fatter design.
Much harder to find if you want to sell it to people, though. They only made a limited amount of these balls.
They are certainly magical. Not as magical as the Baby Duke 2.0, but this particular ball could be magical for 30 people who could win $500.
If AP Tone was able to put that ball into that hoop right over there, going into the weekend on this Feel Good Friday, let's make it a Feel Great Friday! He's an AP voter. Let's feel good Friday.
Let's make it a feel great Friday.

He's an AP voter. He's a pro guy.

Spin that Duke. Maybe punt one in.

Spin that Duke.

Spin that Duke.

What about the Russell Wilson ball? I can't get my speech about not quitting, but he was pretty matter-of-fact there.

Yeah, I'm okay with being done with this.

The whole song, dance, and pony show

on his feel good Friday. I'm trying to feel good Friday, too.
It's only getting worse by the throw. What about tennis ball? Come on, Tom.
Launch the tennis ball. Yeah, you got that.
Yeah, you got it. And the hoop? Yeah, 50 people, $500.
Holy smokes. Sorry I made you do that.
Sorry I made you do that. Give me a baseball.
I don't think so. Give me a baseball.
Shattered a backboard. Let's get the hell out of here.
He wants to do more, though. Tone wants to throw more.
That's good. You can door dash your food.
You can get tickets to Sea Geek. You can drive a Ram truck.
You should wipe your ass with dude wipes. And if you smell like ass, you should use Dove, Men's Care, Whole Body Dio.
Available now.

We got a woman's too.

You should eat

Pizza Hut. Mm-hmm.
No doubt.

And you should have the greatest weekend of your life.

Be your friend. Tell a friend

something nice. It might change their life.
We're in this thing

together. Boys, great work this week.
Everybody.

You too. Good work.

Talk. You know what? Talk.
Why don't you

talk? Will you come out here and join us?

Talk for a team.

Please. I want to see how he walks.
I haven't

Thank you. Good work.
You too. Good work.
Talk. You know what? Talk.
Why don't you? Yeah. Talk.
Will you come out here and join us? Talk for a team. Please.
I want to see how he walks. I haven't seen him walk that much.
It's time for us to eliminate him. Have you ever heard him walk? Well, I watched him fall down that window back there one time.
That was pretty amazing. Oh, okay.
I see what you're talking about. I get it.
And you can't even hear it. You can see it.
Your eyes are telling you what it sounds like. Heel first.
Heel first, too. Oh, yeah.
He's a heel. That's what what makes it loud this could be the last day that you're ever talking you know sunday the supreme court said it's over so you might be reels on monday but the talk era has been stupendous great work out of you thank you for taking this particular program to different levels to different uh generations to different platforms thank you for helping us out in the TikTok era.
It's been a pleasure. We had a great run.
We did. What's next? Who knows? Death.
No. Eliminate him.
Bill, bring out your gun. Nobody's killing you.
Aren't we sending him to the Forbidden City? He had his family. His mom texted him yesterday and said, are you getting fired? No.
No, that's killing you. Aren't we sending him to the Forbidden City? No.
He had his family. His mom texted him yesterday and said, are you getting fired?

No.

No.

That's really happening.

Partly on me because I told her, like, hey, guess who's moving back home?

Why'd you do that?

Your favorite boy's coming home.

Why'd you do that? I love his mother.

I love his family.

I appreciate his friends.

I appreciate him.

We'll just move right into the reels era, brother.

Okay.

And then maybe even some long form editing for the Emmy Award winner. Okay.
Okay? Yep. Can you do long form? He did a couple of them.
Yeah. What about shorts? That could be a good nickname.
YouTube shorts. Oh, yeah.
YouTube shorts. Yep.
What's up, shorts? Still think goofball is a good one, boys. Tom P wants to call you goofball.
I don't think that's fair. Goofball golf.
Thank you. Thanks, Tom.

No problem.

No, he just said goofball.

No, you're not golf.

That's your name.

Goofball.

Heard you're a pretty good golfer, though.

How have we got?

150 right down the middle?

Only when it matters.

All right.

When the lights are brightest.

No, no.

You got to stay.

Got to stay.

Got to stay.

Get your ass up there, for fuck's sake.

Be a friend.

Tell a friend something nice.

It might change your life.

We're in this thing together, no matter what your nickname or platform is.

Team on me.

Team on three.

Put that thing up.

Come on, Todd.

Team on me. Team on three.
One, two, three.

Team.

Goodbye.