PMS 2.0 1274 - LIVE From the Orange Bowl, CFP Semifinals & Super Wildcard Weekend Preview, Drew Rosenhaus, Michael Lombardi, Pete Thamel, Stanford Steve, Darius Butler & AJ Hawk

Speaker 1 Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to the Hard Rock Stadium in beautiful Miami, Florida, the home of the Orange Bowl. Taiwan!

Speaker 1 Football

Speaker 1 is the topic of conversation on this particular show damn near every single day because football never stops. And you want to talk about football never stopping.

Speaker 1 How can you not talk about what's happening tonight? The semifinals of the college football playoff kick off on this beautiful Bermuda grass right here behind me.

Speaker 1 Now, I was told that this grass was laid specifically for this game, so tonight should be absolutely fantastic. We're being told from our source.

Speaker 1 Says it's going to be about 50-50 tonight in this stadium. We're going to have half Notre Dame, half Penn State, and this place is going to be electrifying as two heavyweights.
We'll slug it out.

Speaker 1 The trenches will probably win this game, or the quarterbacks win this particular game. We'll talk about that and so much more.

Speaker 1 We got Drew Rosenhaus, who I think actually owns a piece of Miami, stopping by in about 20 minutes, called him about an hour and a half ago.

Speaker 1 And he was actually taking his jet ski to get service right now, actually, Pat. And we asked if he could swing by to come chit-chat with us.
And he said, absolutely.

Speaker 1 Obviously, Drew Rosenhaus is plugged in everywhere, not only in Miami and the NFL, but he's a pretty big focal point of a lot of conversations.

Speaker 1 Obviously, Tyreek Hill, everything going on down in Miami. Drew's a Miami guy, very connected to the Dolphins.
How's that unfolding? We shall see.

Speaker 1 But also tonight's game, Abdul Carter, okay, pass rusher from Penn State. He's about 6'14.
He's probably gonna run a 4-2. He's got an elite bend and power.

Speaker 1 He's a game changer, game wrecker for the Penn State Nittany Lions. He's rep by Drew Rosenhaus.
Will he be playing tonight? How much will he be playing tonight? What is he expecting?

Speaker 1 And is there any business thoughts behind a lot of these decisions? And then obviously the entire NFL slate will have to be picked because we're off tomorrow. And we're going to have to have a blast.

Speaker 1 We can't thank the ESPN people enough for the setup here on the field in the, I mean, in in hard rock stadium at the orange bolt we're going to be doing a simulcast live tonight on espn2 uh we're living the dumbest lives of all time and obviously i'm very lucky to be doing it alongside a great cast of characters the talks of tables here at possib connor and at tai schmit con man only one up here not wearing a hood yeah you know i felt like you are muted i was i knew you are muted still so i believe uh let's go back to the truck there foxy uh can you tell nick that connor is on darius's microphone which is the guest guest microphone, I do believe?

Speaker 1 There was, from what I was told, a little bit of chaos in a truck behind the scenes.

Speaker 1 And I think that's potentially because we have forced people to travel down here early that normally don't have to set up until college game day to do this entire thing.

Speaker 1 So we appreciate the amount of work that has been taking place. They're working on it.
They're working on it. Nice.
Oh, there it is. There it is.
There we go. Yeah, yeah, no hoodie.

Speaker 1 You know, I felt like as a New England guy, I had to come down here to Miami at Soft Rock Stadium and just kind of

Speaker 1 speak. You heard me.

Speaker 1 A lot has been coming out. I'm sure it'll come up at some point, but this isn't a hard rock stadium.
This is a very soft rock stadium.

Speaker 1 And they're not, and they're rocking softs when they're too, by the way.

Speaker 1 Not much full chubs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, I'd say, but it's great to be down here. It really is.
It's crazy. And we were looking at the layout before, you know, last game at the Rose Bowl.

Speaker 1 Maybe we're standing in front of some people that were pretty pissed off about it. You know, front row, you're paying a lot of money.
Good call. When you look around here, NFL stadiums.

Speaker 1 Boom, a little raised. So we're going to have

Speaker 1 no issues whatsoever. We're not going to annoy anybody, get in anybody's way.
I'm sure we'll annoy people with the things that we say, but it's still going to be awesome.

Speaker 1 And hopefully it's a great game. Yeah, I hope it's a great game.

Speaker 1 At Ty Schmidt, you're in a hoodie right now, Green Bay Packers fan from Iowa.

Speaker 1 I saw you on the plane ride in here. Boy, you were zonked.
Yeah, I was snoozing. Yeah, it was nice.

Speaker 1 Was it the real American beer, brother, or was it the three-month-old that's potentially catching up to the schedule that's currently taking place?

Speaker 2 Yeah, more so that didn't get to bed last night until about 11 when she went to bed.

Speaker 2 I put her down about 6.45, so that's about, you you know, five hours of checking her every two, two minutes and having to pick her up and hold her, try to shush her.

Speaker 1 So yeah, you know, I mean, I'll be honest, I wore the sweatshirt thinking, hey, I'm going to pop the top right when I get down here.

Speaker 2 We're going to Miami. We're going to the Caribbean.

Speaker 1 It's going to be

Speaker 1 beautiful to get. And especially with what we're going through.
Exactly. We got to go.
It's a little cold. Now, obviously, nothing in comparison, but it's still cold.
Bitter cold. As hell, yeah.

Speaker 2 But you get down here, it's 40 degrees, and listen, you know, you start to get a little bit older, you get a little bit softer, okay? That's just the way it is. We're all from cold weather cities.

Speaker 1 We've put in our time.

Speaker 2 We've done that. So it's a real treat when you get to come down to a place like Miami because you're expecting 75.
You're expecting sun.

Speaker 2 And it's sunny, but boy, I tell you what, 40, it might as well be 25.

Speaker 1 This is March 15th, March 16th. Yes.
You know, that's a little bit of a hello, you know, from the spring, but it's certainly better than what the bitter cold was.

Speaker 1 Didn't expect it for sure, but obviously Notre Dame and Penn State would be very comfortable in these particular conditions, especially with how the grass is going to be.

Speaker 1 Let's go to one half of the hammer.

Speaker 1 Cowboys AP tone. You had to put your votes in for all your AP awards.
Did you get it right? Yeah, I got it right. Really? I heard there was a little bit of a waffling.

Speaker 1 What? I heard there was some waffling.

Speaker 1 I was 100% conviction. What?

Speaker 1 Go ahead.

Speaker 1 Nine-year NFL vet, host of Everything DB, Good D, Bad D, the man who launched yesterday his all everything DB team, where there was some arguments to be made on internet about who got left off the team there.

Speaker 1 What were you saying there a little bit?

Speaker 3 Oh, you know, his picks. We talked about him putting his picks in, and I don't know if you can say them publicly.
I cannot.

Speaker 1 Okay, I don't think so. They will materialize.

Speaker 1 NFL honors.

Speaker 3 They'd probably shift to sports books, but I didn't love some of them. But hey, these pics are tough.
And all these, a lot of people.

Speaker 1 You found out what is

Speaker 1 sold. I don't know what's happening right here, but it's bullshit.
But it's what you signed up for, pal. That's right.
You got an AP vote. Look at me.
AP tone. That's what it was.

Speaker 3 Taking over shoulders. Listen,

Speaker 1 I did. I watched my own film.
I watched my all.

Speaker 1 I did my stat reference.

Speaker 1 NFL Plus Premium nfl pro but for like all the positions like i would have been dumb not to consult you pat first for the special season yeah i know who he picked too yep i would have been dumb not to consult darius butler for all of it for the secondary

Speaker 1 aq for the offensive line position i didn't consult aj for linebackers i don't respect him as a player or a person whoa what ladies and gentlemen that's college football national champion super bowl champion rider cup winner aj hawker uh why don't you respect aj hawk that's unbelievable no i do i just like to jag him off take a couple shots Oh, Hawk.

Speaker 1 You're just jagging him off all night.

Speaker 1 We got to sit next to him. That was with a G.
That was with a G, not with a CK. But no, I submitted those yesterday.
I feel good about all of them.

Speaker 1 I'll be honest, defensive player of the year was the most difficult one, but

Speaker 1 I feel good about it. Okay, that's good.
AJ, you're a college football national champion. The college football semifinals will be kicking off this evening here, 7.30, Hard Rock Stadium.

Speaker 1 Some people saying. Sophara.
Good start time. Great, great start time.
Now, for the West Coast, obviously, we would like to send before we go any further that

Speaker 1 the happening in california right now with those fires is straight out of like maybe the most scary nightmare situation that i could fathom it feels like just from what we've been able to see on the internet and whatever the algorithm is kind of popping in front of us as we're all witnessing this live in real time together it's like feels like these fires are obviously very devastating but then with the winds they're just going anywhere so i think everybody is kind of either on guard or trying to evacuate or there's, I mean, and then the water thing that's happening.

Speaker 1 It is, we would just like to say,

Speaker 1 I know this doesn't probably mean anything, but like we will try to be the dipshits on your phone screen right now if you're evacuated or in a hotel somewhere and trying to make those decisions.

Speaker 1 We are so sorry you're going through what you're going through right now. And we hope that sports and us being dumbasses can be a little bit of an escape.
That is what we hope for.

Speaker 1 And I don't even know how the hell that all goes and gets

Speaker 1 fit. I don't even, that is devastation on another level.
We are so sorry you're going through it from all of us. All right.

Speaker 1 Now, with that being said, tonight here at Hard Rock Stadium, the Orange Bowl was obviously a very coveted BCS championship. It's been big for a long time.

Speaker 1 Tonight, it's kicking off the semifinal with the first ever 12-team playoff. AJ, is it the right four teams? And how do you feel about this particular game kicking off the semifinals?

Speaker 1 Because this is going to have a style of football, and tomorrow night's going to have a style of football. Very different, I think, personally, AJ.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, I think the right four teams are here, but that's that's such a subjective thing. Whoever you ask will have their own opinion on that, I guess.

Speaker 1 But I don't know if you guys noticed this is a fast track tonight, and tonight is going to be an how do you know you got kicked off it earlier? It did

Speaker 1 get a feel for it, though. Like, you could play with turf shoes out here and be okay.
The grass is so nice.

Speaker 1 So, I know this game is going to be a physical pound-um-game, old-school throwback-type football, but on this nice little fast track, look for just a couple shots over there.

Speaker 1 It's going down, down, down, down, down, down, down.

Speaker 1 That's stronger. Roman's got it.
No problem at all. Roman's got it.
He's an absolute beast. Hold it in.
That guy works on the road like eight days a week. Non-stop.

Speaker 2 Yeah, just page stuff.

Speaker 1 You just told me he's supposed to be here today, Texas tomorrow, and then wherever the Monday night NFL playoff game is going to be. He'll be there.
Yeah, put that on all season.

Speaker 1 And then I think College Game Day During basketball as well. He's doing the whole thing.
And

Speaker 1 he will mop this stage right here in between every single set. Like for a game, he is an absolute weapon over there.
And I called him Matt on my Instagram story

Speaker 1 because I called him Rule actually because that's how I was introduced to him

Speaker 1 and then his actual name is RuleMin and then I just kind of pieced together I think Nebraska

Speaker 1 called him Maul and I said shout out to Matt Rulemen

Speaker 1 and then all of a sudden it became a full talking point obviously so now I do call him Matt

Speaker 1 after at this point I've said

Speaker 1 but his name is Mike that is that is certainly what his name is great he's a weapon and I think I think he uh he's gonna need more tape I'm gonna say

Speaker 1 He's a weapon.

Speaker 1 That thing is coming down, and I wouldn't be surprised if that one comes down. No, I think the breeze is coming this way.
It feels like it is a.

Speaker 1 So whenever, what is it called, whenever it's the same on one side and the other?

Speaker 1 Mirrored? Synchronicity? Perpendicular. Asymmetric.
No.

Speaker 1 That's a tween. I'm not talking about being parallel either.

Speaker 1 I'm talking about things. Symmetrical.
Awesome.

Speaker 1 There it is. Symmetrical is the right answer.
Shut up. I don't know if...
Is that arithmetic? No, that is. That's math.
That's some sort of math. I don't think.
Geometry, maybe. There it is.

Speaker 1 The geometry. Arithmetic is the plus, minus.

Speaker 1 But since it is symmetrical,

Speaker 1 normally, whatever it's doing up top, it's doing the ups on the bottom. So then whenever there's something that's kind of, yeah, so if it's going this way, it's going this way.

Speaker 1 If it's going this way, it's going this way, you see. If it's symmetrical, then whenever something is opened up on one side, that's whenever you start getting the

Speaker 1 swirlers. This is a beautiful scene.
Do you guys like Newsaw? Did you like playing on Newsad? Because I know sometimes it could get a little slippy. I don't know if the Sod father

Speaker 1 or the Sod son who messed up the Super Bowl a couple years back did this or not, but I mean, it looks nice.

Speaker 3 It does look great. I'm not a fan of like brand new sod just because I feel like you always get those lines and those little grooves in between.
You want it to be as smooth. Oh, the seams.

Speaker 3 Yeah, the seams.

Speaker 1 You got to see them tight. I was checking.
I was trying because they were explaining to me as I was walking on one of the security guards over here who kicked AJ off the field immediately.

Speaker 1 As soon as AJ got here, he just

Speaker 1 went right to the thing and even did like a little cut thing. And he's wearing these boots and he won't lift them up because we'll ask him to do it.

Speaker 1 But they got little little tiny studs on them they're kind of like nike air force one high top boots that he's wearing for whatever always wears them literally every color whatever and he went up there and he checked it a little bit and that's why his first takeaway was fast track here aj put the helmet back on for a second you're like god damn i can i can fly around down here tonight debut you said you would like it a little bit broken in maybe like a little bit broken like a shoe or like a uh a ball or something maybe a little bit more give a little bit more take and you know what's there exactly but hey these guys are pros i'm sure they've done a great job whoa you're saying they're student human yeah

Speaker 1 not yet the ground screw

Speaker 1 come on oh yeah we saw

Speaker 3 stephen ross not running a mickey mouse organization here no offense are you sure

Speaker 1 on that note let's talk about miami come on now yeah

Speaker 3 ice skating weather down here

Speaker 1 you feeling like lasing them up i want to talk about you being back home here

Speaker 1 first of all

Speaker 1 Pumped that you traveled with us. Hell yeah.
Pumped to be here. Yeah, it was good.

Speaker 1 Like coming back down to Miami, too?

Speaker 1 I thought it was going to be much warmer. Yes.
No doubt. I really did.

Speaker 1 You wearing a tank top. You got the Miami.
Yeah, I didn't even pack anything else because we got to go here to Dallas. So I got one bag.

Speaker 1 We got to fit a couple of sport coats in there because we're trying to be professional. College game day's on, obviously, and there's an alternative space.

Speaker 1 No other option.

Speaker 3 This is as bad as it gets. This is bad.
Like, it would be hilarious.

Speaker 3 If you guys are from cold weather places, if you can see how we send our kids to school when it's cold outside, the jackets and the north face and the gloves, we saw the security had gloves on coming in here.

Speaker 3 So this is as bad as it gets. You saw yesterday it was announced, I believe, the Panthers and the Rangers have the winter classic because, you know, it gets a little chilly down here.

Speaker 3 Now it is hockey town down here. We are still the champs, right?

Speaker 1 I'll tell you, Sandy Cup champs, yeah, one Lord.

Speaker 3 We all know that. So it's as bad as it gets, though.
It's still beautiful.

Speaker 1 Okay, it is beautiful. It's much nicer than what we came from, but this is winter storm.

Speaker 1 What's

Speaker 1 Cora, and she is a devilish bitch. Wait, she is? She's so cold.
Yeah. She's so cold.
Yes. What is her problem? I don't know.

Speaker 2 You know, I thought we were out of it. We get 12 inches of snow.
It's like, okay, finally, we're good. I opened up my phone this morning.
I had, guess what?

Speaker 2 Indianapolis, you're getting four to five more inches come Friday.

Speaker 1 And this is all over the Midwest.

Speaker 2 Dallas.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Dallas is in comparison.
Absolutely nothing. But it is cold in Miami.
It's also very cold in Dallas. They're getting a snowstorm the night before the cotton bowl down there.

Speaker 1 And I think everybody immediately thinks back to the Super Bowl that took place down there between the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Green Bay Packers. Who won that Super Bowl? Oh,

Speaker 1 here Here we go. Steelers.
Here we go.

Speaker 1 Pittsburgh won the Super Bowl. Loss? No, we won 27-21.
Aaron had a chance to drive down at the end to win it. He threw an interception, I believe.
And Steelers won. Who intercepted it? Brian Clark.

Speaker 1 Ike. Ike? Ryan? I think they both did, actually.
Together. They had their hands on your hands.

Speaker 3 Oh, that's why you don't respect. That's...
Okay, I get it now.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 3 I get it now. I get where it comes from.

Speaker 1 Oh, did you win that? Yeah, I believe the Packers won that one, right? How was that in Dallas whenever there was a snowstorm everywhere? Legitimately. They shut it down.

Speaker 1 I've been to Texas two different times in a snowstorm. My buddy Anthony Schlegel got married there my junior year in college.
He said, oh, it's always warm. It never snows.

Speaker 1 And we got there, boom, snowstorm for that, his wedding. And then I came back for the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 And we got there on Sunday, the week before Monday, and there was, you know, they're putting sand down on the roads. Now we heard they're brining the roads, so that should be good.

Speaker 1 They dig it up in Michigan. I saw somebody sent me a picture of one of these things brining.

Speaker 1 And it's like, I think we're at the point, hopefully, where we're able to create something to stop this stuff. You would think

Speaker 1 heat the roads. I thought we figured it out.
Yeah, I don't know if we're ever going to be able to do that. Let's talk about,

Speaker 1 let's get back to the story of Miami because I just saw a Miami legend kind of walk by here.

Speaker 1 There was a press conference that happened with McDaniel and Greer where something was said, debuted. And is this just becoming like a trend now, I do wonder, right?

Speaker 1 It feels like there's a lot more openly criticizing of

Speaker 1 like a culture pretty much. Here's Coach McDaniel talking about what's going on here in Miami.

Speaker 4 I can find people until they're blue in the face. I can take their money.
I can yell at them.

Speaker 4 But until they understand that part of the reason that we're in the position is controllable and we have to, with absolute certainty and

Speaker 4 zero tolerance for anything else, we have to clean the controllables up

Speaker 4 and we can have a chance to have success together. So certain specific individuals that

Speaker 4 you know, I don't think it was across the board. There's a lot of guys that

Speaker 4 you know had certain fines before that didn't have any.

Speaker 4 There were some people that had multiple that you know I think there's different ways to to kind of counteract that bringing it up as a team and and continuing to find guys wasn't wasn't enough.

Speaker 4 So I'm not going to continue to just place

Speaker 4 blame on

Speaker 4 even some of the smallest of individuals that were multiple offenders. I'm adjust my process and make sure that

Speaker 4 it's team-wide knowledge anytime that things are done that aren't in the best interest of winning football games.

Speaker 1 Okay, so he said a lot there, I think, to anybody that

Speaker 1 is a fan of the Dolphins or just somebody that follows the NFL very closely. He's basically saying, yeah, I fine people, but they don't care.
Just pay the fine.

Speaker 1 Yeah, these guys are making so much money. The fine schedule is nowhere near enough to actually change how people are acting.
So joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who will

Speaker 1 not only be able to speak about this particular situation because I feel like he is synonymous with this entire city and certainly this football team, but not just this football team, the entire NFL and now college, because of his business acumen being so damn impressive.

Speaker 1 Billions

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 billions

Speaker 1 of dollars negotiated. Ladies and gentlemen, Drew Roosevelt.

Speaker 5 Thanks for being

Speaker 1 I had to jog yeah through security to get here the stadium's not open yet so we pulled this off I I had no idea if you were gonna be able to if anybody was it would have been you because of our experience getting in here listen I mean us getting in here was damn near impossible we were on the G1 track okay we were going around turn four twice

Speaker 1 to a couple hot laps and there's a barrier on the other side you go from turn four now you're going into turn five now you see turn six and then bang shut you down do I want to go through the walk bridge to get to the other side where there might be a barrier or do I not?

Speaker 1 That we turned back around, that we couldn't get in, that we had to find an entrance.

Speaker 1 Shout out to the people here at Hard Rock Stadium making it happen because I don't think they were expecting to have to let us in. They certainly did.
And thank you for joining us.

Speaker 5 I'm glad I still have hair, Pat. In this job, representing, it's tough, man.
I've been doing this 36 years. So we just talked about, you know, you're dealing with a lot of different personalities.

Speaker 5 And the three of you can relate. You've been on teams.
And as an agent, you absorb a lot of chaos and help help to try and create some order.

Speaker 1 But it is stressful. Yeah, you're a solution finder.
I think deal makers are that in business. All the best business people that I know are deal makers.

Speaker 1 Deal makers are able to look at one side and say, hey, is this worth it to you? And then to this person, this is the only thing holding this up. Can you make it happen? Deal makers are not everywhere.

Speaker 1 Deal makers are a talent. Deal makers are very slim to be at a very elite level.
You're one of them. So let's talk about a couple of the situations happening with the Dolphins and with your people.

Speaker 1 You and Tyreek Hill, obviously. Yep.
Okay, have a very deep relationship. You and the Miami Dolphins have a very deep relationship.

Speaker 1 When McDaniel says that type of thing, after hearing all the rumors about what was happening with Tyreek down here in Miami, whether he didn't feel appreciated or he felt like his career was wasting away or he was not as sick, but he was promoting a store, all these rumors that were hitting the internet about Tyreek, and then him not playing, then him saying, I'm out after the game.

Speaker 1 Where should we be viewing the entire situation at? You think? How should we be viewing the entire situation down here? So

Speaker 5 let's back up to training camp. Tyreek's scrimmaging with the Washington commanders and he breaks his wrist.

Speaker 5 We have top wrist doctors saying to Tyreek, you need to get this operated on. You're going to miss the season.

Speaker 5 Tyreek says to me and the Dolphins, I'm not going to miss the season. I'm going to play.
I want to be here for my team. The doctors all said it's going to be painful.

Speaker 5 It could impact your entire career. If you don't get it done now, you may not be able to fix it.
All the way, Tyreek said, hey, the heck with it. I'm a team guy.
I'm going for it.

Speaker 5 This hampered him all year long. He deserves a lot of credit.
Tyreek is very passionate. Anyone I've ever represented that was great was passionate.

Speaker 1 They cared.

Speaker 5 What you see with Tyreek is very genuine. He wants to win.
It's not good enough for him not to make the playoffs. He's very passionate.

Speaker 5 I think at the end of the day, he's committed to this Dolphin football team. He had an excellent meeting with Chris Greer and Mike McDaniel.

Speaker 5 I believe that Tyreek

Speaker 5 is a great asset to the Dolphins, and I think he's the least guy that people should be worried about for this organization. They have many more worries.
Tyreek Hill is not one of them.

Speaker 1 Okay, so that was heat of the moment, you think, post-game, Tyreek Hill, understanding what the gravity of the situation is with the team that he's on, which immediately led to people saying, when you took the big check to go to Miami instead of staying at Kansas City, you kind of said that you didn't want to win.

Speaker 1 You wanted the biggest paycheck is what people started saying.

Speaker 1 But I don't think that stops you from still wanting to put up massive legendary numbers and being historic and everything like that, especially with the two-a-led McDaniel offense.

Speaker 1 I assume that's how you feel. So in the heat of the emotion, when he feels like he wasted a season, he says that answer after not, wasn't the story? Yeah, he didn't want to do the interview initially.

Speaker 1 He didn't want to talk to anybody. And then they're like, no, you kind of have to almost.
And then then he went out there.

Speaker 1 And you think Chris Greer and McDaniel are able to get over that and teammates are able to get over that particular moment?

Speaker 5 So let's back up a little bit. Tyreek's first two years with the Dolphins were epic.
The best back-to-back seasons in NFL history.

Speaker 1 Hung 70 on Dunford. The number one player.
Top player.

Speaker 5 Tyreek was the NFL player of the year last year. So I think he made a very good decision to go to the Dolphins.
He was historical the last two years.

Speaker 5 Look, two of them missed six and a half games this year. Tyreek's playing with an injured wrist.
He still was 40 yards away from 1,000 yards. He was the second alternate to the Pearl Bowl.

Speaker 5 Did a lot of great things under the circumstance. Eclipsed 11,000 yards.
I'm proud of the toughness. He showed up for every game.
There are a lot of guys that didn't play for this football team.

Speaker 5 He showed up.

Speaker 5 Throw out the comments after the game. You're emotional.
The guys on the team know Tyreek is a competitor. He's there for them.
We represent 13 guys on the team.

Speaker 5 Not one of them has a complaint about Tyreek. Okay.

Speaker 1 Debuts.

Speaker 3 So still wants to be a Dolphin. That's the most important thing.

Speaker 5 So

Speaker 5 let me just say this.

Speaker 5 I've got to have that conversation with Tyreek. Okay.
I'm not going to speak for him. Gotcha.
We'll discuss that.

Speaker 5 That's going to be really something that we work out over the, I'm not going to say he does. He doesn't.
Gotcha. That's a discussion I'm going to have to have with him that I haven't had yet.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 Okay, so a future pro and ask you about, because now you represent college guys, one of the top pass rushers in the league, well, coming into the league this year. Hopefully we see him tonight.

Speaker 3 We'll see with Abdul Carter. How do you balance, you know, obviously you're in charge of their business, but guys wanting to play, wanting to finish the season with the game, you get to this point.

Speaker 3 We saw Cam Ward play a half, then sit out a half. How do you balance that, you know, giving them that best advice and obviously letting them make their own decision?

Speaker 5 Well,

Speaker 5 this is a straightforward situation. Abdul Carter is an NIL client of ours.
We hopefully will represent him in the upcoming draft, but that won't happen until he's coming in college.

Speaker 3 Those are two completely different.

Speaker 5 But from an NIL capacity.

Speaker 1 That's smart from the athlete's standpoint, I think.

Speaker 5 Absolutely. NIL does not carry into the NFL.
So Abdul's still going to have to make that decision.

Speaker 5 But we would obviously be honored to represent him because I believe he's going to be one of the first picks of the draft.

Speaker 5 But to your question, Deebut, relative to tonight's game, if this guy can play physically, if there's a chance, he will do it. I've been an NFL agent for 36 years.

Speaker 5 This is absolutely one of the toughest human beings I've ever been affiliated with. Just watch this guy play.
He plays so hard every snap. If he can go, he'll go.

Speaker 5 But he has a legitimate shoulder injury. And Franklin came out and said, hey, it's a game time decision.
It really is. You guys played a long time in the NFL.

Speaker 5 You know there are game time decisions where you got to go out there. You got to warm up.
You got to feel it. You You don't know whether or not you can do it.

Speaker 5 That is going to be something that'll happen in a couple hours.

Speaker 1 That's a potential game-changing workout before the game, obviously, with Abdul Carter. He's and he can.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. And he can.
Big 10 defensive player of the year. He's unbelievable.
Special. Unbelievable.
AJ has a question for you, Drew. Sure.
Drew, how different is it now with this?

Speaker 1 And you say you're representing these guys as NIL clients. Obviously, you want them to stick around.
You want to represent them in the league, but how early are you recruiting players now?

Speaker 1 Is it different by state, by state, also coming out of high school? How does it all work now compared to maybe eight years ago?

Speaker 5 So it's so different when

Speaker 5 we recruited you guys.

Speaker 5 We started recruiting guys out of college, their junior year, their senior year. Now we got to start with high school guys, okay? Mason Graham is a great football player that we signed this year.

Speaker 5 We started representing Mason as a freshman at the University of Michigan.

Speaker 1 He's so good. Get him a record.

Speaker 1 He's amazing. He'll be a tough NIL.

Speaker 5 Just NIL we started, and when his season ended, he hired hired us to represent him for the draft.

Speaker 1 So it's year-to-year contracts or until you become a pro?

Speaker 1 Everybody says these NIL contracts are shite right now. Do you agree with that?

Speaker 5 If you're asking me, they are year-to-year. Okay, so players right now are professional football players in college.
They get a new contract every year. There is free agency every year.

Speaker 5 There is no salary cap.

Speaker 3 There are no rules.

Speaker 5 The ability to transfer is almost unlimited. Guys getting paid coming out of high school, I love it.

Speaker 6 I'm for the players. Yeah, make it a lot of people.

Speaker 1 I love it. But there has to be some sort of system.
Absolutely.

Speaker 5 In any system, we need structure.

Speaker 5 Every other professional league

Speaker 5 has rules.

Speaker 5 We have a cat. We have a structure.
We have a draft order. We have waivers.
We have trade deadlines. This doesn't exist in college football.
So it is very chaotic.

Speaker 5 But to get back to your question, a guy like Mason Graham, we started recruiting him as a freshman, and we were fortunate fortunate to sign him when his eligibility was up.

Speaker 5 But it doesn't always work out that way. We've signed some guys that we represented for NIO, and they went another direction with their agents when they got to the draft.
You know, that's...

Speaker 5 It's kill or be killed. You know, we've got to earn our business every day.

Speaker 1 Are you setting those up as the same type of contracts you would do for professional guys? Is that just kind of your model?

Speaker 1 Like, are you doing what Bill Belichick's doing at UNC saying, hey, this is how it works in the NFL? This is how it would work with you.

Speaker 1 Or how do those kind of deals set up between you and the guy, the

Speaker 1 student human athlete?

Speaker 5 Yeah, we are, on a year-to-year basis, we are trying to get contracts for our clients with their colleges at the top of the market for them. We're using other players as examples.
We're pushing hard.

Speaker 1 So this rev share thing coming on April 8th, 2025 is good news for you, you think?

Speaker 1 Yes. Because you've had to battle within a salary cap and comps at positions.

Speaker 1 Because I think some of these deals, if we're listening to how you're talking about it and how some people are chatting about it, like one running back will be making like, let's say, $2.3 million.

Speaker 1 And then a very good running back is making a $400,000 because they don't know that that is potentially taking place. Now there's going to be a market in comps and everything, right? I love that.

Speaker 1 So you feel good about that because now you get to showcase that you're, I can, hey,

Speaker 1 I can get a little bit more than everybody else, right? In that.

Speaker 5 Absolutely. You know, it's huge that you guys played in the NFL for a long time.
We can go on the NFL PA website at any moment and know what every player's making.

Speaker 5 When we negotiate contracts, it's predicated on comps, comparables, right? It would be very valuable to have that for NIL. And also, let's have transparency.
Yes.

Speaker 5 Let's know what guys are getting paid, what the schools are working with. I think transparency is huge.
And sharing information is a big deal.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and also having legitimate contracts, too, because there's a lot of, I'm not saying your clients. I'm with you.
But I'm saying there's a lot of.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of issues. Shit.

Speaker 1 A lot of shit. Allegedly, you know, and there's like a loss of what, $16 million or $10 million?

Speaker 5 Let's do it the right way, Pat. Let's have legit contracts.
Let's know what everybody's making. And let's work for the players and the colleges and make it a good system for everybody.

Speaker 1 Because college football is at an all-time high right now. So let's just continue to not save it, but curate it into what it can possibly become, which is an unstoppable wagon.

Speaker 1 College football is a very untapped market with a lot of football fans. If you look at the differences in ratings, once again, what are those? We don't know.
We're benefiting from them now.

Speaker 1 People are saying, oh, look, the ratings are up. But like, who knows how those are even monitored at this stage of life? Congrats, everybody that is monitoring, though.

Speaker 1 We appreciate what you're doing. But NFL ratings, what they are, and college ratings, what they are.

Speaker 1 There are still a lot of people that love football that have yet to really dive into college ball for one reason or another.

Speaker 1 And with what it presents from an environment, an atmosphere, a buzz, a chaos,

Speaker 1 anything can happen any week, legitimately. It's like college football is just, I know it's been huge for a long time.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying that is not the case, but I think it is in the middle of a massive like, here we go. And the business side of it is going to to have to be tight so that shit can continue to go.

Speaker 1 Absolutely.

Speaker 5 You know, when you go to college games, and I go to a college game every week, I go to NFL games every week. I am blown away by the passion.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 5 Going to your alma mater. I went to the West Virginia Penn State game.

Speaker 7 Oh, man.

Speaker 5 You know, the atmosphere at Ohio State, UConn,

Speaker 1 it's still special.

Speaker 5 I mean, the Orange Bowl where I grew up. Who are your colleges, guys?

Speaker 1 Iowa.

Speaker 5 I mean, Iowa was amazing. That stadium's incredible, right?

Speaker 1 They did a wave.

Speaker 5 There's so much passion. You go to Wisconsin game at night, Virginia Tech.
College football is a beautiful thing. The fans, the commitment, the love, the purity of it, the sheer emotion.

Speaker 5 You can't beat it. Let's keep taking care of it.
Let's love it. Let's do right by the players, the coaches, the administrators, and keep that thing going.

Speaker 1 Your business literally depends upon it. And how long have you been an NFL agent now?

Speaker 5 This will be my 37th draft.

Speaker 1 Damn. Wow.
So you've been doing college football football stuff for 37 years. You know, that's kind of the...

Speaker 5 I go back to the late 80s. My first year as an agent was 1988.
So represent a lot of the great hurricanes at the old Orange Bowl.

Speaker 5 I mean, it's just beautiful college football, and I want to help it as much as I can.

Speaker 1 Okay, who are some of the young guns you respect? Mulligetta? You respect him?

Speaker 5 Oh, yeah. You know, as far as other agents? Yeah.
Absolutely. You know, this is such a competitive business, you know?

Speaker 5 And I'm a good competitor, so I'm not going to hype up guys that I have to recruit against.

Speaker 1 Respect, respect. Mulligan got to probably doing the same thing.

Speaker 1 But you're 37 years in, man. Like you are known as the guy.
Like Rosenhaus is the guy, you know, like that's that's cemented. You should feel very good.
Hey, congratulations.

Speaker 5 Thank you, man. But you know what?

Speaker 5 Nothing is.

Speaker 5 Secure. You got to fight hard every day for your clients.
You got to produce. You got to get the best deals.
You got to outwork the competition. Hell yeah.
The past means nothing in the world.

Speaker 1 Nothing. Yesterday means nothing.
You got to battle every day

Speaker 5 to stay on top.

Speaker 1 That's what every player needs to feel. Yes, absolutely.
Every player on every team should feel that way.

Speaker 5 AJ, as an agent, I have to be as competitive as my clients, fight for them every day. These guys work so hard.
The three of you know it.

Speaker 5 To get out on that field, I owe it to them to battle for these guys

Speaker 5 to get everything I can.

Speaker 1 Hell yeah.

Speaker 5 And you guys can feel my passion and my energy.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1 I think so. If you're another agent, good luck.

Speaker 1 You're 37 in the middle of his prime. Conman has a question for you.
Yeah, Sean Stilato, mixing meatballs, not loving this from you, Drew. You got the juice.
It's awesome.

Speaker 1 With all that being said, with college, we saw last year with the Packers, like, you know, Jeff Hafley, he went from college to the pros.

Speaker 1 And then we see this year with Belichick going from, you know, the pros taking a year off, but then going to college.

Speaker 1 Do you think more guys will make that jump where because colleges run more like a professional outfit and it's heading that way with, you know, the structure to everything?

Speaker 1 that there will be more NFL coaches going down and vice versa, more guys from college going up?

Speaker 5 You know what? I think it depends on the individual, okay? So if you want to succeed in college football, you have to be able to recruit.

Speaker 5 Okay, if you are a coach that's an X's and O's guy and really good calling plays and a good teacher, hey, that's awesome.

Speaker 5 But if you can't recruit, you're not going to succeed in college football as a head coach. In the NILR, you need money as well.
So you better go to a program that's got deep pockets to pay guys.

Speaker 5 I'm guessing a guy like Jeff Hafley decided, look, Boston College, maybe we don't have the collective that we need there. Maybe I'm better served being a coordinator, making a couple million bucks.

Speaker 5 And the X's and O's is my strength. I can't speak for him.
A guy like Belichick, he'll be successful anywhere he goes. The guy's a beast.
He can make it at the NFL. He can kill it in high school.

Speaker 5 He can kill it in college. He's an all-time great.

Speaker 5 He can basically do what he wants. Look, your cohort, Nick Sabing, he dominated college football.
He is my cohort. But obviously he was not a guy that loved this new system.
He has said that.

Speaker 5 So that, I think, had something to do with him stepping aside and doing media. It's made for some people, it's not for others.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and you got like Dan Lanning and the young crew that's like the next generation of coaches coming through that are born in it, you know, so they have to kind of buy in and work the extra hour.

Speaker 1 What are you, what's your screen time on a daily basis?

Speaker 5 What, 20 hours?

Speaker 1 Honestly, how do you have the juice?

Speaker 1 37 years into this thing, you still got the juice.

Speaker 5 This is why I walk around with this big backup battery here, right?

Speaker 1 Just non-stop all day, every day. All day, man.

Speaker 5 You know, we have to.

Speaker 1 We're recruiting, we're recruiting, we're pitching, we're checking in on your clients.

Speaker 5 You're dealing with injuries, you're dealing with playing time, you're dealing with the playoffs right now.

Speaker 5 You're recruiting guys, you're dealing with NIO, you're helping guys deal with their futures, where are they going to be, families, off-the-field stuff. You got to be a rock for your clients.

Speaker 1 And you got 12 Pro Bowlers this year.

Speaker 5 Yes. And I've got four little kids.
So, I mean, how many of us are dads here? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 So you guys can all appreciate that's actually made me a better agent. Having four kids has softened me as a human being,

Speaker 5 but made me even a better businessman. I have an even greater energy and passion.
You asked me why I do it.

Speaker 1 I have a one-year-old at home.

Speaker 5 We live in South Beach. I have a three-year-old, a one-year-old, a five-year-old, a nine year old i got to dominate for these guys

Speaker 5 i gotta pay the bills down in south beach you know

Speaker 5 absolutely yeah so i'm i'm serious my my family motivates me i want to make them proud i want my three-year-old son conan to grow up my one-year-old son conan is a great name i got to keep it going it is i named him after conan the barbarian yeah that's what i'm saying conqueror yeah i love i love everything but i got to stick around for these guys right you want your kids to see you succeed and set a great example for them so that's a big motivation where does my energy come from?

Speaker 5 The love of my clients, the respect and the admiration for what they've overcome to get to this point, the commitment, the passion, the energy, the toughness, their discipline, their ability.

Speaker 5 If I've got the blessing, the opportunity to help these guys, I got to give it my offer.

Speaker 1 I want to let you know, this is awesome. I want to let you know.
What you're doing right here is awesome. Yeah, because when a coach comes on.

Speaker 1 on the show and we ask them a question and they give just a coach answer every single time. It's like, oh, this is this person's natural way of thinking.
So, like, perfect job.

Speaker 1 I feel like your natural way of thinking is just like, this guy or these people are the best of all time at all times. Like, you're pitching.
With that being said, you rep Van Ginkke, right? I do.

Speaker 1 Hey, he's potential. He's potential defensive player of the year conversation.

Speaker 5 J.J. Watt on your show yesterday.
He's a unique player, guys. He can rush the quarterback.
He can cover. He can make interceptions.
He can hit. He's sideline to sideline.
He is a Viking, right?

Speaker 5 If there was ever a Viking, this dude with the long hair the way he plays yeah

Speaker 5 i mean look at this van ginkle he tore his liz frank in the last game of the season last year people wrote him up wrote him off the viking

Speaker 5 oh my god if he's ready for the first game and he's put together a great year we also represent grenard and the other two on the other side aaron jones the running back Those three guys, they added him this offseason.

Speaker 5 What additions for football?

Speaker 1 Kevin O'Connell's a dog, too. Here's a video, actually, of Kevin O'Connell doing some coaching in a locker room, I believe, after a loss.

Speaker 1 I mean, from what he's saying and how he's acting versus how we maybe view like some other coaches and how it operates. Listen to Kevin O'Connell here.

Speaker 8 We're 0-2.

Speaker 5 We've lost by a combined nine points.

Speaker 1 And we've lost the turnover battle 7-1.

Speaker 8 When we talk about it's all about the ball, it's gotta fucking mean something to you.

Speaker 7 Everything inside you.

Speaker 8 That's just purely holding the organization in your hands and not caring enough. We've got the leadership in this room to fix it.
And we're going to get this shit right.

Speaker 8 And we're going to start rolling like a freight train. You guys with me? Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 I believe that was last season. And then obviously they come into this season and just absolutely dominate.
You have a great relationship with the Vikings, it appears.

Speaker 5 I'll tell you a story. I'm at the Combine in your great city of Indianapolis.

Speaker 1 Beautiful city. Hell yeah.

Speaker 5 And I meet with teams at the Combine, okay? Of course, you're talking about, you know, business with them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you guys are tampering. We get it.

Speaker 5 I won't deny that.

Speaker 5 One of the head coaches who sits in on the meeting for the Vikings, Kevin O'Connell.

Speaker 5 And I'm not going to put him in a bad spot, but he blew me away. The guy is more than a coach.
He's

Speaker 5 in the way that Belichick understands personnel on top of coaching and how everything comes together with signing players and getting new guys and the salary cap, O'Connell's special.

Speaker 5 He's going to be one of the greatest guys.

Speaker 5 He is really impressive.

Speaker 1 At that combine, we also got to see him

Speaker 1 and he came up to me and we got a chance to chat before he went live with Rich Eisen. I think I was in there.

Speaker 1 We had Mad Mel Kuiper walking around and Kevin O'Connell walks in and he daps me up or whatever. We have a conversation and then he says,

Speaker 1 what's the story with Grigson? Because they had Grigson in their building, you know? And he said, what's the story? And I basically, you know, laid out my feelings on it all.

Speaker 1 And he goes, you should talk to him. And I was like,

Speaker 1 yeah i'm not going out of my way to do that like that is not how this is gonna go and then i walk down later and then grigson's there and we have a brief conversation like four to five minutes we i think we aired our grievances i think it was a very very good from my perspective a good conversation for us to have and i think he's a guy that had learned from how he operated the first time he was a general manager, had a lot of success.

Speaker 1 I think, I think the vision that he would want to have for his team and what he wanted to have for our team is one that would be very, very successful.

Speaker 1 I think the way he went about doing it was not, just was not good. Like you have to be able to deal with people like whenever you're in that particular position.

Speaker 1 And I think it wasn't his strength at that time.

Speaker 1 But after talking to him and him even having that conversation with me, I think, and then hearing people around him, feels like he has learned from it.

Speaker 1 Just like we talk about these head coaches who get a second opportunity at it.

Speaker 1 It's like whenever you get an opportunity and you're too young, maybe, and we're going to talk to Michael Lombardi in the next hour. I think he'll probably have something to say about this.

Speaker 1 But when you get an opportunity and you're young, you have this vision on how it's going to go.

Speaker 1 And then, whenever it just all crashes out from underneath you, just absolutely underneath you, and then you have to like rebuild yourself back up.

Speaker 1 There's probably a way to go about doing things differently.

Speaker 1 And in my eyes, I think with the style of team that he would want, if he was able to get those things proper, which are definitely fixable, I think it'd be a great GM.

Speaker 1 How many GMs do you represent?

Speaker 5 And do you? I don't represent coaches or players or GMs because it's a con represent players, but not coaches

Speaker 5 Executives because it can be a conflict of interest.

Speaker 5 You know, for example, one of our great clients over the years was Dan Morgan, and we have to now negotiate with Dan as the GM of the Panthers. I'd like Ryan Grigson.

Speaker 5 I dealt with Ryan Gregson when he was with the Colts. We got deals done for guys like T.Y.
Hilton at the time, which was his first extension.

Speaker 5 I've seen him work with the Vikings as their assistant GM, working with KwaZ, the general manager.

Speaker 5 The Vikings brought in Aaron Jones, Andrew Van Ginkle, Jonathan Grenard. They extended our guy, Josh Metelis.
They extended Christian Darasaw.

Speaker 5 They brought back Dalton Risner.

Speaker 5 Reisner,

Speaker 5 we like dealing with the Vikings, and the reason for that is Coach Flores. Coach Flores is a stud.
If someone can get Gregson and Flores as a package.

Speaker 1 I think that's being pitched right now, isn't it? You're going to win. That's being talked about.
I don't know about it being pitched, but I think that's being talked about. Gregson's a stud.

Speaker 1 And they both are coming off of first time, not going how he wanted to. What did we learn?

Speaker 1 Tough, too. Top bones of hard.

Speaker 1 Hard ends.

Speaker 3 I got a question for you on that note. You obviously have been in the game since you said the late 80s.

Speaker 3 And I know from the outside looking in, it may just be more cameras, more microphones, more people talking about it.

Speaker 3 But from your perspective, do you feel like the players are as accountable or as tough or as they've always been?

Speaker 3 Because I feel like even with the Mike McDaniels pressure, what's been kind of coming out of the locker rooms of Indianapolis in some of the years and some of the things, being late, being you know, things that weren't really accepted.

Speaker 3 How are the players now in this generation compared to generations in the past?

Speaker 5 I don't think a lot has changed in that capacity.

Speaker 5 I still believe the great players, the good players, the successful players work at it, play through injuries, bust their tails in the offseason, have leadership, are part of a family.

Speaker 5 I don't think that's changed.

Speaker 5 If you want to make it in this league, it takes more than talent.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, but that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 We're saying the successful people we're saying does it feel like there's more people that aren't setting themselves up for success because of their kind of guys you don't represent yeah not your guys not you're never you're a guy no i know what you guys are asking i don't see it man to get to this level period you've got to be a bad can i say badass no okay

Speaker 1 um you got to be tough you got to really want to is that the farthest the farthest you'll go pass i'll go i'll i can go further than that no but i didn't know how you operate.

Speaker 1 Like, are you a, when you're doing business, do we drop a... Oh,

Speaker 5 I keep my poise when I deal with players and coaches and executives because you got to contain your temper.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the best business people do that. I'm terrible at it.
I really don't. One person says something dumb.

Speaker 5 I don't lose my temper, man.

Speaker 1 I don't get confrontation.

Speaker 1 One person says something dumb. I'm done with it.

Speaker 1 It's not good. It's not a good thing, but

Speaker 1 it is a different style.

Speaker 5 I mean, obviously, there are guys that make a ton of money. There are different individuals that,

Speaker 5 you know, maybe are not as dedicated as others. But overall, I have the same admiration collectively for the players that I did in the late 80s that I do today.

Speaker 1 Okay, Ty has a question for you.

Speaker 2 Drew, when it comes to the draft, a couple years ago, when Jalen Carter was the consensus number one pick, and then, you know, there was some of the off-the-field stuff that made him fall, you came on our show because he wasn't taking any visits after 10 because you said, like, hey, there's no need to do this.

Speaker 2 He's not going past that.

Speaker 2 When it gets to like this point of the offseason, and you have these clients when are you starting to get like an accurate consensus on where guys are going and because you've been doing this for 36 years going into your 37th how much bullshit do you still have to sift through when it comes to your clients and where they might go in the draft so so about jalen carter uh obviously look look at him he made the pro bowl yeah he made the nfl pa all-pro team congrats in years and look after two years this guy could be the best defensive tackle in football so proud of him and congratulations and a motor too.

Speaker 5 He played more snaps this year than any other defensive lineman. I think he and Zach Allen, unbelievable, unbelievable pick by the Eagles.
And Howie Roseman and Nick Siriani deserve credit.

Speaker 5 Backing up to your question,

Speaker 5 the draft is all about dependability.

Speaker 5 You can watch the tape and see how these guys play. Any good evaluator can do that.

Speaker 5 The key to getting it right is being able to draft players that you can trust that are going to play through an injury, that are going to be coachable, that are going to learn, that are going to fight through adversity, that are not going to get in trouble off the field, that are going to be accountable.

Speaker 5 That is very important. That's what teams are doing right now.
They're trying to do their homework. What you do on the field is huge.

Speaker 5 Just as important is your character, your work ethic, your dependability, and your commitment. You've got to love football.
You've got to want to win.

Speaker 5 It's got to be about team and the clubs are trying to find these guys.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this started with you talking about Tyree Killer's wrist having an injury since the Commanders game and him playing through it and then having, you know, a little bit of an emotional meeting with the press after the last loss and that and everything.

Speaker 1 And then you just talked about playing through. pain and showing who you are is a big deal.
The Abdul Carter story tonight is a big one.

Speaker 1 And everybody's thinking that like, well, he's not going to play because there's a chance.

Speaker 1 Nobody has talked to him, just speculating on situation here's a chance maybe you don't play because there's a business decision and then the person who's not necessarily repping him for the NFL but certainly repping him now says playing through injury is a that's a positive whenever NFL evaluators are looking at it not a negative where a lot of people view it that way though you know a lot of people think if they put bad tape out there there's nobody's gonna care but if you're playing through injury I think personally if I was a GM or a team builder I'd be like Give me the dog.

Speaker 1 Give me the guy that is willing to fight. Do you tell your clients that? Because I think there is a narrative potentially that agents tell their players the complete opposite.

Speaker 5 Jalen Carter, we brought him up. The guy was one of the top picks who played all the way through

Speaker 5 to the championship game.

Speaker 6 No opt-out.

Speaker 5 Helped the Bulldogs win two championships. A guy like Abdul,

Speaker 5 I would never insult him. by talking about a business decision.
This guy is a warrior. He loves his coaches and his team.

Speaker 5 He would fight to win the championship no matter how much was at risk. I was at the last game when he hurt his shoulder.
This guy went back out there, tried to play.

Speaker 1 He had one arm.

Speaker 5 If he can play tonight, he will. There is no discussion about don't put out bad tape, no thought about a risk of injury.
He's going to give it his all for Penn State. His teammates deserve that.

Speaker 5 That's who he is. That's how he was raised by his parents.
And that's the type of guy that makes him great.

Speaker 1 That's awesome. Hey, Drew, from beginning to end here, you were

Speaker 1 agenting your ass off.

Speaker 1 And that's why you are who you are, brother.

Speaker 1 37 years in the NFL, billions and billions and billions of dollars negotiated for your clients, and probably hundreds of millions negotiated for yourself, if not even more.

Speaker 1 You're the absolute man, ladies and gentlemen, Drew Rosenhaus.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Drew. Thanks, Drew.
No problem, dude.

Speaker 1 Hey, great work. We're still on.
Still on, Rose Pro.

Speaker 1 We're still on. Rose Pro.
This is Miami.

Speaker 1 Want to hang out tonight? Let me know. Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay, okay. That's for all you guys.
Okay, that sounds good. I know where to go.

Speaker 1 Do we have a stair? I don't know which way. I'll jump off, like you.

Speaker 2 Dog, you're jet skiing earlier.

Speaker 1 Oh!

Speaker 1 There we go.

Speaker 9 I should have done it, Ken.

Speaker 9 Goodbye, guys.

Speaker 9 Have fun. See you tonight, bro.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Stay off the grass.
Be careful, man.

Speaker 1 True Rosenhaus can walk right to the middle of that field if he wants.

Speaker 1 Got a heads up from the Miami Dolphins.

Speaker 1 It's the only stadium that actually grows their own grass. Oh, really? Really? Yeah, to grow their own grass.

Speaker 1 It's these greenskeepers and groundskeepers here that are mixing up the soil and the seeding and the watering and the sunning and the, you know, the covering and the non-covering.

Speaker 1 And how about the 40 degrees hitting this grass? I wonder if that's a little bit of a worry

Speaker 1 for the groundskeepers. I don't think so.
They are absolute pros. Zito just said he sent over more information that was sent to us.

Speaker 1 Stephen Ross bought a bunch of land about 80 miles north and created the South Florida Sod Farm.

Speaker 1 We control the whole process, the growing, the trucking it down, and then installing it at stadium and the dolphins practice fields across the street. We changed the field eight to 10 times a year.

Speaker 1 He did this because we had so many vents all year long, so it allows us to quality control the whole process and not depend on other people providing enough sod for the amount of vents and things we got going on down here.

Speaker 1 Okay, G1's coming down and we're bringing $350 million to the city. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Probably $50 to $60 million into Stephen Ross's pocket. We drove that course early.
It's a nice course. It's great.
Rossio was starting to hit the apex of those turns about turn seven. Glando.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and he was in a really interesting bus or van.

Speaker 1 Like, it's one of those vans.

Speaker 1 Huh. It's like when you see it and you're driving, you're like, oh, something illegal is going on in there, and it's not good.
Yeah, or like a church.

Speaker 1 Yes, church shuttle. Or a big cult, maybe a big national culture.

Speaker 1 That's what it feels like. An old home.
Oh, what's that? When you take the old home people on a field trip or something? Oh, yeah, and I guess you could even say prisoner's going down

Speaker 1 the street to maybe clean up the side or whatever.

Speaker 1 Always give them a nice little boop-boop. You know, just, hey, boys, good to see you out to bot.
You know, I assume this is. Thank you for your service.

Speaker 1 Well, or not. Well, it's

Speaker 1 if they're out there doing the thing. We're cleaning up.
We assume that, you know. That's not volunteer.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 They got somebody watching, too, all the time. It's a short list.

Speaker 2 I've seen enough movies. Those guys are always getting away.
They're killing the guy who drove them down there.

Speaker 1 They're busting their shackles, and then they're getting out of town uh speaking of getting out of town um

Speaker 1 is jalen hurts and the philadelphia eagles gonna go this weekend all signs say yes all signs say jalen hurts is back out of concussion protocol he had a light practice yesterday didn't he boys yep i saw him going over some bags i saw he had a helmet on which i think is a big deal uh saw he had uh pads on saw he was throwing i think this is all systems go for a jalen hurts return unless he woke up this morning and say whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa that's kind of the I think, the extent of it, if we're reading right.

Speaker 3 Which could happen. You know, injuries are obviously situational.
Concussions are definitely a situational injury, and people have suspected that he had some earlier this season.

Speaker 3 I think this is the first and only documented one on the books, but I think Sal Powell, he always got, you know,

Speaker 3 he's got the beat. Yeah.
He's got the beat of one of those

Speaker 3 in Philly. And he said he's trending in the right direction.
I believe he's in between four and five, and you've got to get the five tops. He's clear protocol.
So they need him.

Speaker 1 He's going to be a big, he's a huge part of the team obviously he's a starting quarterback making a ton of money but in the run game in the pass game he's a huge factor so right now he's in stage or phase four there as you see player continues cardiovascular strength and balance training is he on one of those boards that they got

Speaker 1 charged was that thing stick balance stick step stick

Speaker 1 this thing it had like a a solid plastic thick plastic on top and then it had like this little foam kind of like if you take the stick off of a broom head yes Yeah, and then you put that on like sand.

Speaker 1 Yep. And then it's able to stand.
And then they stand on one foot on these things and like bend over and like grab popcorn kernels. And bottle caps.
They have to stack three bottle caps on each other.

Speaker 1 So they're doing this balance exercise. It measures how, like, their movement, I guess, somehow.
No, they just have to be able to, it's like a workout.

Speaker 1 It's like Pilates and yoga basically put together. Yeah.
They're standing on, it's one of their exercises. It's like a bossuar,

Speaker 1 like... A Bosu ball with a...
Oh, this is not part of the protocol. This is part of the Chargers workout with the characteristics.
Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 Okay, gotcha.

Speaker 1 Well, when I saw balance, when I was doing a balance thing, I just. How's it work for quarterbacks? Because usually, don't you, if you're a position player and you're going through the protocol,

Speaker 1 you're going to pop some pads before you go back out there for the game. But a quarterback, he's not doing that, is he? So his first contact will be the first time he gets hit in the game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they would never let him hit. No.

Speaker 1 Never, especially not. He's going to bang his head off the wall.
A few times.

Speaker 1 I mean, I was trainer or something like that. Because, like, Abdul Carter tonight, for instance, he's got a shoulder.
He's going to get a few shots in. So there's going to be a bag.

Speaker 1 There's going to be some guys. Like, we're doing tackling drills in this entire thing.

Speaker 1 You're going to be able to see, but he's going to be in full pads earlier than everybody else because he's going to have to test and see if he can go. For Jalen, how do they?

Speaker 1 Yeah, Howie might just bop him a couple times. Maybe he puts a helmet on.

Speaker 1 Or actually,

Speaker 1 Ruben.

Speaker 1 Sure, yeah. Puts his helmet on.

Speaker 1 He's a Philly guy. Throws the ball at him.
Maybe he throws the ball at him because we know he throws a hundred mile an hour faster. Yeah, it'd be tough.
We don't know how he is with a football.

Speaker 1 We've only seen him with a baseball. I assume he's throwing nimes on the beach.

Speaker 1 But if he goes in full pads, maybe even Drewski as well, like they were in I think, and then they just run into Jalen, maybe not professional football players, but close. I don't know.

Speaker 2 I think you maybe line him up and have him do the tush push 50 to 60 times today just to see if he can go make sure, you know.

Speaker 1 The offensive line is going to be so happy to do that. Well, that's a Packer fan talk.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, too.

Speaker 1 Now, if Jalen plays, I think obviously Eagles fans are much more comfortable with the entire situation. No offense, Tanner McKee, or Kenny Pickett.
Okay, that is no disrespect meant.

Speaker 1 But Jalen Hurts and that offense is obviously what we expect out of the the Eagles to perform at the level in which we think the Eagles are able to play.

Speaker 1 Now, the Eagles have been winning games this year, and the Johns over here are not happy. Johns over here are still not happy with how it was going.

Speaker 1 Siriani obviously put himself in some situations for a lot of people to throw darts at him. They're still sitting in a beautiful spot with a home playoff game, favored by...

Speaker 1 Four and a half. Yeah, four and a half.
Right now. Ty, Jalen plays.
You guys are scared or what? No, no, it's not scared.

Speaker 2 Well, I think, I mean, no matter what, he's not going to be 100%. You know, he hasn't played in, what, two weeks now.

Speaker 2 And obviously, I think, I mean, he's got to pass the protocol, but going into the game, even if he was only at, what, 60%, like, they're still starting him.

Speaker 2 It's not like, like, if he can go, he's playing over Kenny Pickett.

Speaker 1 And I think that's what all Packers fans expected going in. What's that, Ton? Nothing just an orange walked in.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's Obi. It really should distract him.
Does that say Obi? I think I saw a name tag there. Obi? Obi Walking.
Obi the Orange. Obi the Obie.
Everybody knows Obi the Orange.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you what, the Orange Bowl has been around a long time. We should do a little bit more research on that before we do the simulcast tonight.

Speaker 1 Orange Bowl has always been held in very high regard. Oh, yeah.
Yes. Always, feels like.
It's one of the New Year six rotating.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It won't be like this forever.

Speaker 1 Quarterfinals, New Year Six. Bowls on a rotating basis.

Speaker 1 This is the national championship next year.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow. Okay.
I believe. I'm not 100% sure, but I believe that was...

Speaker 1 I don't know if that's what we're doing. Cotton Bowl was not in it last year.
Granted, they're only

Speaker 1 Ohio State and Missouri. You guys would.
How do you feel about Texas having a little bit of a home game there?

Speaker 1 And Snowstorm for travel? Yeah. I guess it might be something, but yeah, they know Ohio State fans travel.
They're saying 50-50 here tonight. 50-50 here.
Which makes sense. All right, what, 70%?

Speaker 1 How much corporate? What kind of corporate setting is it? You know, a lot of these games are a lot of corporate people. So

Speaker 1 if my research was correct, there's about 30,000, I think, that are dealt out to AYOs, all you others?

Speaker 1 Huh? You never heard of that? That's what it's called? Like 15 to each team, and then 30,000 AYOs. Oh, you acridge?

Speaker 1 I don't know if I not

Speaker 1 what I was told, those three letters were never said. AAO.
None of that was.

Speaker 1 There's no AEOs. That's what we call the hanger honors when we were in college.
Like the people, hey, who's that guy? Why is that guy on the field? Why is he on the team playing? AEO. AYO.
AEO, yeah.

Speaker 1 They're not saying that about Barbie Carpenter. No, but I think there was like 30,000 offered up at a

Speaker 1 pretty good clip for like the teams. And then everything else is like SeeKeek.
What was the price? Do we remember what the price was that SeeKeek sent over for the average resale here?

Speaker 1 Here, 700, and then over there was $1,200. And then a national championship was, what, $2,700? Yeah.
But that'll go down, we assume, or maybe it goes up. Who knows?

Speaker 1 The college football playoffs have been fantastic. The games haven't necessarily been close, but the environments have been electrifying.
Well, tonight, continue that trend, I believe.

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Speaker 1 It's why we're here. And obviously the first hour we had a a chance to chit-chat with Drew Rosenhaus and cover all the hot topics of the news world today.
I'm not alone.

Speaker 1 Obviously, I am very fortunate to have a conversation right now with these boys and also share the field with them tonight as we do a simulcast on ESPN 2 of the Orange Bowl.

Speaker 1 Nine-year NFL vet who looks super cool back in his home. He's actually a Broward Connie High School Hall of Famer down here, ladies and gentlemen.
Darius J. Bowler.
Yeah, D-Boss. Glad to be home.

Speaker 1 Glad to be home.

Speaker 1 It is nice to be home. Big time game here.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Penn State and Notre Dame are two massive fan bases, historical brands, battling it out with two teams that have fan bases that are desperate to get to a national championship. Are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 Penn State in a national championship? Notre Dame in a national championship. That sounds out of a good old days movie.
And now we're here tonight.

Speaker 1 Or tonight, I mean, Debund, it's a big night down in Miami.

Speaker 3 Huge night. You talk about the good old days.
It's been a while since these two teams have been to a national championship, been on this type of big stage.

Speaker 3 So huge moment for both of these programs, both of these coaches, and obviously all these dynamic players that we'll get a chance to watch tonight.

Speaker 1 A lot of people are bringing up James Franklin's stats.

Speaker 1 That's different. I think they're a different team right now.
I think he's a different guy. I think it's a different school.

Speaker 1 I've chit-chatted about a few times on College Game Day, but I haven't really hammered it home as much. Penn State's all in, dude.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 They are all in. And, you know, anytime we talk about this, you see AQ get a little gleam in his eye.
You know, AQ gets a little jay. He's like, we are.
You know, he does that entire thing. They are.

Speaker 1 Whenever everybody was chit-chatting about Ohio State at the beginning of the season, having a $20 million contract or whatever, it was like

Speaker 1 we thought maybe that was abnormal. You know, because we're in a very new world, I think we thought that that was a little bit different than maybe what was going on at some other places.

Speaker 1 And there was like, you know, seven to eight places, it feels like.

Speaker 1 I don't know 100% the numbers because there might be people working in, you know, shadows a little bit that came up out of nowhere that were spending a lot of money.

Speaker 1 But I'm just saying this year at the top, there was like seven teams that like were spending more than most.

Speaker 1 And Penn State is certainly one of them. Penn State is all in.
They are desperate for a national championship. And it's not just football.
You look around a lot of their teams.

Speaker 1 I think like you start doing this, the basketball team, the volleyball team just won another national championship. It's like Penn State is dominant.
They're not wrestling. They dominate.

Speaker 1 They don't even lose. Penn State is, their athletic department is sick of not being talked about, I think, in like the Big Ten conversation.
And they're going all in, Tysmid.

Speaker 2 Well, and you have to, because now with Oregon coming in, too, and Ohio State and Michigan, like if you want to compete in the Big Ten, you have to do that.

Speaker 2 You really can't, like, otherwise you're just going to be, you know, I love them, but like, a school like Iowa can't compete financially. And like, they'll have a year every once in a while where like

Speaker 2 they're great. Exactly.
Yeah. And they're a bunch of guys going, you know, to the NFL or whatever.

Speaker 2 But it's going to be very difficult to compete for Big Ten championships and national championships when you don't have that massive influx of money behind you like those four programs at the top of the Big Ten do.

Speaker 1 Isn't it crazy that your alumni is now a distinct advantage?

Speaker 1 People always say that your network after college is going to be something that is a benefit to getting a scholarship to a school you're going to get obviously college educated you're going to be able to do that but then you're going to be able to network amongst alums and everything like that now your alumni is legit for shoot brother like an actual advantage in some place oh yeah you know out of the they're out of the shadows now

Speaker 3 you mean shadows alumni has always been an advantage brother yeah that's aj what do you mean

Speaker 1 you're talking about mr ohio

Speaker 1 you're talking about mr ohio

Speaker 1 what about down here i mean uh there was a guy who i believe i think he's out of jet i think he's important

Speaker 1 right

Speaker 1 Shapiro? You might be back, baby. Yeah, yeah, legit.
If he got out, maybe he's able to generate another scheme to make enough money. Guy was a phenomenal hustler.

Speaker 1 I think if he gets out of jail, he'll figure out a way to make more money. I think that is something that hustlers do.

Speaker 1 Who knows if it'll be all the way back to the yachts and thoughts, the two hots and a cot, which is what his life became because he was basically funding an entire operation down here in Miami.

Speaker 1 And they were just like open about it. You know, it wasn't just like we're quietly celebrating, we're having a great time.
But Miami certainly wasn't the only team that was doing that. No doubt.

Speaker 1 And I think that's what Shane Gillis was saying, Boston Conner, but now Notre Dame's no slotch either. Notre Dame's got a lot of alumni with a lot of money.
It's an institution behind it.

Speaker 1 And I think that was the conversation that we were trying to have there when I started mentioning the Penn State.

Speaker 1 And by that, we, me, it's like the four teams that are left are very invested in their football game. Notre Dame, certainly, since the beginning of time, seemingly.

Speaker 1 Well, Notre Dame, like, got it right with Marcus Freeman. You know, like, they're a tough bunch of dogs at Notre Dame.
I don't know if you're thinking,

Speaker 1 yeah, I don't know if you're thinking, you know, of that when you think of Notre Dame, especially, you know, you mentioned Shane Gillis. That guy went AWOL.
You know, he left his post.

Speaker 1 So I don't know if you're thinking of that immediately when you go to Notre Dame, but now I feel like you do. Like, they play defense and they run the rock.

Speaker 1 And Riley Leonard, like, sure, coming into the season, everyone kind of thought, you know, can this guy throw the ball?

Speaker 1 And who knows if that if he can, but they almost don't have to because they're O-line. I mean, they're breaking down their huddles before the game.
Their chant, it's one, two. Fuck.

Speaker 1 That's how they break down their huddle as an offensive line. And that's kind of an offensive line you want.
Todd,

Speaker 1 country, Notre Dame football.

Speaker 1 Boom. And then one on two.
Yeah, yes. That's what he says.
It's awesome. I've watched it every single time it's come out.
Same guy, same energy, same delivery, same reaction from the rest of the boys.

Speaker 1 That offensive line is like,

Speaker 1 that's what we're talking about with AQ yesterday. Exactly.
When it was like, hey,

Speaker 1 what's more important pretty much? Is it the dudes that are in there, which are obviously important, have to have the ability? Or is it the,

Speaker 1 and it feels like every time that guy breaks that offensive line huddle down, it's like, I think this is a nasty group of dogs right here. I think they are all in.

Speaker 1 They are bought in with themselves and each other. And then Riley Leonard, the guy behind him.

Speaker 1 This dude put the team on his back last week.

Speaker 1 Against Georgia. Front flip at the end of this thing after already winning it.
Running everywhere.

Speaker 1 Only threw it for like 90 yards or something like that, I think was the stat but he made the throws whenever he had to which we talked about in that rpo thing where he has to hit somebody in the scene he's been able to do that in paison faizon but yeah he gets the ball in space just like the extension of the run game he's he's got enough wiggle he can create yak form too i really wonder everybody talks about their power in the run game i think riley has showcased a much better throwing than I expected,

Speaker 1 I think, in the whole world almost. Yeah, and our source, Siz at Notre Dame did tell us about the offensive line.
Great bunch of dudes.

Speaker 1 You know, guys that you want to be around, guys that you want to hang out with. They like to have a good time.
And they're not all about themselves, of course, as linemen. They're about

Speaker 1 God. They're about their country.
They're about their country. They're about Notre Dame football.
Boom. And that's it.
Remember, beginning of the year,

Speaker 1 the whole theme, the whole story going into Texas A ⁇ M week one was that those five guys had never played together because, you know,

Speaker 1 they had three seniors last year who left.

Speaker 1 So this was like an offensive line at the beginning of the season that had a bunch of questions, and now they have jailed, and they are one of the best running football teams in the country.

Speaker 1 Fun to watch. Obviously, that'll kick off the college football playoff semifinals tonight here at the Orange Bowl.
Tomorrow, the Cotton Bowl as Texas takes on the mighty Ohio State Buckeyes.

Speaker 1 How do the Buckeyes feel? Fans feel good? Yeah, everybody's healthy, I feel like. Everyone feels pretty good, optimistic.
How the fans feel?

Speaker 1 How the Ohioans, brother, feel?

Speaker 1 I think, you know what, I would imagine, I don't know for sure, but I would imagine there's a chunk of fans that the more they win, the the more they you know might tighten up a little bit because now there's expectations it's all about men

Speaker 1 no no i'm saying fans i'm saying fans players know when you can control what is going on i think you guys could relate if i could if i'm playing in a game and i have some control over it sure you're not really nervous or anything but when you're people like us and you're watching from the outside and you're a fan you really want them to win.

Speaker 1 I think that's when people start getting nervous when they start thinking, okay, can we continue to play at such a high level? And I think the answer is yes.

Speaker 1 I mean, that was the question going into the last game against Oregon that I had and I picked Oregon you know because they were undefeated and sure their videos are sweet. Yeah scud dogs too

Speaker 1 mascot

Speaker 1 and damn green and everything like that. Yeah.
What I didn't take into account for is you know which I normally only think about is the

Speaker 1 in between the years.

Speaker 1 Yeah that guy is the only thing to really think about when it comes to the offense because if you can handle him which you can't you can probably take care of the offense because he frees everything else up.

Speaker 1 But that lost to Michigan man. And I think Coach Sabin might have said it it immediately upon it happening, or maybe he said it about Alabama having it happen early.

Speaker 1 Like a loss can really be the best thing that ever happens for a team in their mission and which they're trying to accomplish.

Speaker 1 Obviously, need to be Michigan, but every team is trying to win national championship. This team was a national championship robust team going into the season.
That was a conversation.

Speaker 1 Loss to Michigan made everybody think they wasn't going to... wasn't gonna, the season's over.
We've lost everything.

Speaker 1 But inside that building, it feels like that we got to be inside of, which is very nice. So nice.
So many different flavors of Uncrustables. Oh, man.
So many different flavors.

Speaker 1 Boy, what a bunker mentality that was created by those boys, knowing that it's their, hey, we still got everything in front of us. What's rock bottom? A loss to Michigan,

Speaker 1 not our entire fan base, but a lot of our fans being like, what the hell is going on? This is all mismanaged. And it's like, instead, they play their best football since then by far.
And they're,

Speaker 1 they're just, they're road grading people. Oh, yeah.
I mean, I mean, it is a methodical ass beating since that game that we have watched out of the Ohio State Blues.

Speaker 1 And also, also, what is Ryan Day's record? 60-something and 6? Is it 60? 68 and 10 or 16.

Speaker 1 11, 67 and 10. Four of those are to Michigan.
You know, there's the Oregon one. There's the Georgia national champions who they took to the last second who won a national championship by 70 points.

Speaker 1 And we kind of talked about it before the Tennessee game.

Speaker 1 If you're not wearing maize and blue on the opposite sideline, Ohio State has been dominant and they've proven it the first two rounds of the playoffs. Yeah, and Texas is just like poor old us, huh?

Speaker 1 I guess. Everybody's talking about how to stay.
Undertakers, you know, sending me to hook them signs while he's on a damn steel pony making his debut on Netflix Raw.

Speaker 1 It was, he literally parks in front of me, horns up, brother, hook them, and then just pulls off. He was not happy that I picked against Texas.
He had not enjoyed.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's not a good person. Talk about a Colt.

Speaker 1 Dude, we're just walking through me and Gumps. Gumps, you back there? I don't know if Gumpy has a microphone and or a camera back there.
Yes, sir. We got a mic.

Speaker 1 Gump, how about whenever we were walking just through the backstage there of the arena?

Speaker 1 And the way WWE arenas are, there's like little pockets of things, you know, and they could be filming things in between. So you kind of got to like stay in your pockets.

Speaker 1 We turn a corner, heading over to catering, and there's the dead man. Jeez.

Speaker 1 Turn the other way. No, he's wearing this big purple flannel.
He's got this like do-rag on. His hair's out the back.
He's with his wife or whatever. And

Speaker 1 I go, Mr. Take, good to see you.
And he goes, why do you do that to Texas, man? Pissed. So mad.
So mad. Eye to eye contact.
Did he even break? Why'd you do that to Texas, man? I said, what?

Speaker 1 I said, I go,

Speaker 1 and he goes, yeah, and then what? He goes, don't do it. He looks at me.
He goes, don't do it. Don't do it.
I go, oh, you're talking about this. And he goes, don't you do that?

Speaker 1 And Michelle McCool, who's his wife, was like, he was pissed at you, whatever you did, like actually four shoot pissed off or whatever. And I'm like, take, I don't ever want to make you mad.

Speaker 1 You weren't wrong either. Both times, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Georgia's been very good. Georgia loses to Notre Dame.
Does that mean Notre Dame is the best team in the country? Well, they're not saying that.

Speaker 1 Everybody's saying Ohio State is the best team in the country.

Speaker 1 And And then Texas, with two losses in the final four right now, Quinn Ewers makes his best play that he's ever made in the history of his career, basically to win that game.

Speaker 1 Calls out a blitz, checks to something else, makes an audible, throws an absolute dime. Quinn Ewers shows up in the biggest moment whenever he had to.

Speaker 1 And if you recall, he went to Ohio State straight out of high school. And what was that thing I saw this morning? Yeah.

Speaker 1 What was that? You would know. Not me.
Who's Ricky Reichhart? Oh, Reichardt. Reichert's a big car dealership in Columbus, Ohio.
So I believe Quinn must have had an NIL deal.

Speaker 1 I don't know if he got cash or anything, but maybe not.

Speaker 1 Because remember,

Speaker 1 remember, he went to Ohio State because he wasn't allowed to take the money in the state of Texas that was being offered at the time because of their laws versus Ohio's laws.

Speaker 1 So he went to Ohio State literally just for millions of dollars. Reclass.
That was like the story. Sick mullet.
Sick mullet. The highlights were absurd.
Quinn, yours, this Texas bowler can spin it.

Speaker 1 We loved him immediately watching the highlights. We also love the fact that he was becoming a millionaire out of high school and had to go to another state to do it.

Speaker 1 Was Ricky Reichardt the guy that made him a millionaire? That's the truth. I don't know.
I mean, he definitely gives cars to the guys. I see commercials all the time, current players with him.

Speaker 1 They were telling, I saw the post that I saw, and once again, I apologize for not knowing who posted it. You should get credit for this because it was great internet.

Speaker 1 It was a picture of Quinn and Ricky Reichardt. And he said, do it for Ricky tonight.
And

Speaker 1 that is our tomorrow night. And that's what Ohio State can do.

Speaker 1 Ricky was hoping Quill Years would be a great Ohio State Buckeye quarterback. Think about how many quarterbacks were Buckeye quarterbacks and then they were.

Speaker 1 Then they go other places and have massive success.

Speaker 1 Fields is at Georgia goes up there. Burrow, who else?

Speaker 1 McCord to Syracuse. Yes.
Yeah. This year.

Speaker 3 Set a new record in the ACC.

Speaker 1 And the quarterback rooms are always just like NFL guys. Will Howard NFL guy?

Speaker 3 I mean, what we've been seeing as of late, yeah.

Speaker 1 They're not even talking about him, right? At all.

Speaker 1 Shador, Cam Ward, Drew Aller of Penn State's getting a little bit of a rub saying, hey, if Drew Aller was to come out now, he might go back to Penn State.

Speaker 1 And he's making millions of dollars, I would assume. He's starting quarterback up there.

Speaker 1 So he might stick around to, you know, continue to develop and maybe take another payday from Penn State, try to finish with the boys, depending upon how this season ends up for Penn State.

Speaker 1 But nobody's really bringing up Will Howard being a quarterback in the NFL at all.

Speaker 2 No, and that was kind of the, I mean, the offensive line and him going into the playoff was kind of like, hey, this is why Ohio State's not going to win because Will Howard has looked like absolute shite, you know, leading, or at least from the Michigan game, you know, so that left a sour taste in people's mouth.

Speaker 2 But having watched him the last two weeks, recency bias, like I think everyone's giving all the credit to Jeremiah Smith and rightfully so because he's probably the best player in college football.

Speaker 2 But we saw a couple of those, a couple of these balls that Howard thrown.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like Sunday throws, for sure. And you see the little skip down the tunnel in the second half? Moxie.
A lot of Moxie. You see him.
He can run. He's a big son of a bitch.

Speaker 3 Big boy, bigger than I expected. You mentioned, as of late, these

Speaker 3 biggest games of his career up to this point, the throws he's been making in the offensive line, it's been a lot of shuffling there with the Ohio State offensive line.

Speaker 3 So for him to be able to do that in the past game, obviously what they're doing in the run game as well, he's making big plays.

Speaker 3 Quinn Ewas better make some plays early tonight, tomorrow night. They better make plays early.

Speaker 1 Why? You're saying Ohio State's been coming out and just smacking it.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we're talking about AJ kind of mentioned, you know, being tight, maybe not as players, because Ohio State, they feel like... We're the most talented team.

Speaker 3 If we come out here and we play our brand of football, nobody can beat us. Texas, it may be some some doubt that it's kind of crept into that locker room.

Speaker 3 You just got to take it to the wire at Arizona State.

Speaker 1 Cataboos is all. I know.
Great teams. They don't.

Speaker 3 You're in the playoffs, big-time teams, but now you're going and you're facing this wagon right now that Ohio State is.

Speaker 3 It may be some doubt creeping in there, but you make that play early in the game. All right, here we go.

Speaker 1 Here we go, boys. That's tomorrow night.
We'll be on the field for that. Tonight will be.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I can't wait for Jack Sawyer and JTT to do their thing.

Speaker 1 Kelvin Banks. That's a really good OLED.
So much talent on these teams.

Speaker 1 So much talent on these teams everywhere. The tackle end matchup you mentioned.
Like, Kelvin Banks, as a Patriots fan, that's the tackle you want. So, like, they have legit dudes on the outside.

Speaker 1 Connor, I think, is their right tackle. He's got that sweet little collar.

Speaker 1 I don't even know what that one's called because it looks so absurd, but Necrol, I don't think, whatever it is, that matchup's going to be sweet, let alone Jeremiah and the four dudes covering him.

Speaker 1 Matt Miller at NFL Draft Scout says Ohio State versus Texas has 21 players ranked in the top three rounds.

Speaker 1 11 for Ohio State. And then quick math, boys, 10 for Texas.

Speaker 1 And Caleb, I mean, that's not even counting Caleb, the two best players, Caleb Downs and Jeremiah Smith, because they're not even out there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're not even.

Speaker 1 Also, Texas' two best players, not two best players on defense, but Anthony Hill Jr. and then Simmons.
They are number one, two in the team in sacks. So they are a true freshman and a true sophomore.

Speaker 1 That's not counting them either. Freshman of the year.
They're going to have to re-recruit them after the season ends. Oh, and they'll be able to.

Speaker 1 Tonight we'll be here at the Orange Bowl and Obi the Orange has stopped by.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Great work, Obi.

Speaker 1 Obi, how do you feel about orange juice? Don't like it, right? No, we don't like orange juice. Thumbs up.
We like orange juice. All right.
So it's not like

Speaker 1 it's not like an eat more chicken type thing with the cows, right? Yeah, that's a little bit different.

Speaker 1 Just love pain. Wants to be the only orange.
Kind of selfish. So, my daughter,

Speaker 1 almost two years old, loves oranges. Gotta peel it all the time.
How come some of the peels are like good peeling ones? Oh, yeah. Where I can get like a big old piece.

Speaker 1 And then some, it's just like tearing away quickly. It's like when there's bad snow for snowballs and then good snow for snowballs.
Why are these peels so different? You don't know. Don't know.

Speaker 1 Your peel is the best, by the way. Yes,

Speaker 1 Obi's bother. Obi's a goofball.
Obi, how old are you, Obi?

Speaker 1 Obi's been with the Orange Bowl since forever? Oh, you've seen some good ball clubs. Really? You've seen a lot.
How do you feel about tonight's game? You think it's going to be a good game? Good game.

Speaker 2 Obi loves the match. A lot of scores.

Speaker 1 I do think I know how to do the orange thing. You have to roll them sometimes.
No, that's an egg. Those are hard-boiled eggs.
Yeah, that's an egg.

Speaker 1 I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 Coven times it works at Coventimes. Well, Coventimes are easy to feel.
All right, okay.

Speaker 1 Anyways, maybe. I will give it a go.

Speaker 1 Who knows? Hard-boiled eggs definitely helps as well. You should dive into it.
I don't like hard-boiled eggs. Come on, give him protein diet.

Speaker 1 Obi, I guess, brought some food. Did you bring some food, Obi, for us? We appreciate you.
That's another shit.

Speaker 1 Obi.

Speaker 1 Obi-Confusing. Obi's in orange.
Like, Obi. Obi's.

Speaker 1 Sodexo. Here we go.
Sodexo live. We can't thank you.
Wow.

Speaker 1 How you doing, John? How you doing, John?

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 wow.

Speaker 1 Hey, so, John, Obi, can you let John's sleep slip by there, Obi? Sorry about it. Thank you.
Hey, thank you so much. John, you're the executive chef

Speaker 1 for can you get a little closer? Sodex Live. Yep, yep, absolutely.

Speaker 1 For Sodexo Live, obviously we're doing the game today. Orange Bull is a big game.
Playoffs. Let's see what happens.

Speaker 1 So Sodexo is the company that provides the food for a lot of NFL stadiums and college arenas. Exactly.
And they happen to have Hard Rock Stadium or are you contracted in by Orange Bull?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 We're doing,

Speaker 1 we're contracted in for

Speaker 1 the so you guys do work with hard rock stadium all season? All season, yep. We do F1, we do Miami Open, we do.
How are the fans in F1? Yeah, how are the fans different than football fans?

Speaker 1 They're palette.

Speaker 1 They're goofballs. Different crowd.
Yeah, so do you do you shape what you guys are serving on the menu by the crowds that are coming in, for instance? Exactly.

Speaker 1 Is tonight similar to a Miami Dolphins home game? Exactly. Same thing.
Okay, when the F1 comes in, you gotta make the stuff that tastes terrible, the European terrain. Yeah, duck, bronze.

Speaker 1 You say like

Speaker 1 a tiny portion. Stuff no one likes.

Speaker 1 different crowd right obviously a little bit more tedious and a little bit different small bites how many plates or meals do you think tonight you guys are gonna have to serve and how many do you have to serve for one Miami Dolphins home game for a home game you know definitely sold out yeah but how many meals is it in number like how much are you cooking

Speaker 1 do you have like pounds

Speaker 1 pounds I know that exactly 15,000 pounds yeah how many like bags of shrimp are you opening up on a daily basis 2,000

Speaker 1 pounds that was easy 2,000 pounds of shrimp yeah how much beef

Speaker 1 In one game? Yeah, of course. 2,000 pounds of shrimp? I mean, not the last whole game.
Hey, that's a ton.

Speaker 1 That's a ton of shit. How much can you eat?

Speaker 1 I would enjoy eating this thing right here. This looks amazing.
Is everybody, every sweet's getting one of these, or is this specially made here? It's only for you guys, right? Wow.

Speaker 1 John, what? Some sweets that are getting

Speaker 1 that as well. We appreciate you, man.
How many people are on your team?

Speaker 12 A lot.

Speaker 1 Around 1,000. Dana.
Jeez, Louise. 1,000? Aaron? Yes, sir.
That's spelled. That's a different Aaron than I've ever seen.
A-H-R-E-N. Aaron Beers.
Love it. That's a great name.
That's a name. What?

Speaker 1 She got a great name, Aaron. Is that a code name?

Speaker 1 And a great goatee. Holy CIA problem.
All right, you guys are doing a great job. Hey, we appreciate you for bringing this out.
So Aaron's my right-hand man, right, as well.

Speaker 1 Su chef, do chef. Does he say yes, chef, no, chef? He does, absolutely.
All the time. He calls me all the time.
So like when you call him, you say, what's up, chef? Is that how it works?

Speaker 1 What's up, chef?

Speaker 2 This is where we're at. This is what we're doing.
Keep the place moving. keep the building going.

Speaker 1 Behind, behind, behind.

Speaker 1 A lot of that stuff. I love it.
All right, we appreciate you guys. Thank you for the food.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 I enjoy it.

Speaker 1 Okay. I appreciate you, man.
Enjoy it. Michael.
Nice to meet you, Pat. Nice to meet you, Michael.
Appreciate you, guys. Great hair.
Thank you. Thank you, guys.
Yeah, phenomenal hair.

Speaker 1 Seriously, really, really good hair.

Speaker 1 Then you had the good hair and the glasses, too. Nice look.

Speaker 1 Was it a tomahawk? Yeah, you got a big tie. See, I think they cut all the meatlets.
They did. That's a good bone.
Oh, wait, wait, wait. Hold the phone.

Speaker 1 Hold the phone. Is it XO live?

Speaker 1 Oh, so juicy. Oh, wow.
Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's a lot of gristle on that piece.

Speaker 1 That looked great. That's good.
Glad you did it. That looks good, though.
You'll be chewing that for three hours. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Come on, man. What do you got? Cornbread? Yeah, you know what? Yeah, he took a piece of paper.
I said, why don't you

Speaker 1 hold on right there? Let me see what that is. To be honest, I thought it was

Speaker 1 not cornbread. That was like not plantain, but the other stuff they serve at Fogo.

Speaker 3 Did you taste it?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's pretty good. Hey, my man garlic bread.
You guys should grab whatever you want.

Speaker 12 That's pretty good.

Speaker 1 That was good. Just

Speaker 1 give that tomahawk one of these, and that thing's going to just slide right off. Here you go.
Just throw it right in my mouth. There you go.
Just throw a meat right in my mouth. Hey, yo.

Speaker 1 That's a good throw.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Hit my mouth.
I mean, if it wasn't sideways, I probably would have got it. All right.
Unbelievable. You need a nap.
You should use a napkin.

Speaker 1 I got one right here. Yeah, you should certainly.
Jeez, Louise. AJ, eat.
Eat. Your skin and bones.
It's the best part about like

Speaker 1 cars. Shows usually go to break right now when people start eating.
You're right. We're doing it live.
Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, watching us eat is an

Speaker 1 Italian legend. Load of salt.
Some beef on there. This is really good food.
Tax meet another.

Speaker 1 Thanks. Sorry, Pat.
Go ahead. Okay, never mind.
The person I was about to introduce can potentially not hear a word we're saying right now, but he's watching. Oh,

Speaker 1 hey, hey, Paisan.

Speaker 1 It's good to see you.

Speaker 12 Oh, there we go.

Speaker 1 We can't hear you. Muted.
We can't. Hey, it's good to see.
Hey, how are we doing? How are we doing? You see this thing? Look at this thing. Huh?

Speaker 1 No gabagoul, huh?

Speaker 1 You see all this meat? You got any.

Speaker 1 I can't hear you. Oh, no.
What?

Speaker 7 No sound.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. This is not good.

Speaker 1 He's actually doing it to us.

Speaker 1 I can't hear you. I can't hear you.
Oh, don't. What if he does just dunk on us completely? What are the little football pops there? Is that a little cake pop you think? Cake pop looks like?

Speaker 2 Did you get one that's cut?

Speaker 1 You got a fucking asshole. You got a knife

Speaker 1 right now. You got one plate to shoot.
You've got a knife. That's easier, is what I'm saying.
Why not?

Speaker 1 Not even close. Rice.
Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now.

Speaker 1 Watching us have our

Speaker 1 last meal before the Orange Bowl. Thank you, Just Nexo Live.

Speaker 1 He can't hear us.

Speaker 1 It's going on.

Speaker 1 That meat's good, isn't it? Yeah. Good meat.
We should have had it later in the hour. I don't know.
I think this is perfect. I think it was a bad time to bring it in.

Speaker 1 If you're coming to the Orange Bowl tonight, just know that John and Aaron, Biggers,

Speaker 1 have got it figured out.

Speaker 1 Thousand people team. So, like, the only reason why I know about them is because

Speaker 1 it was an obvious upgrade whenever they were starting to do like the sweets, the sweets food. Because normally when you do like these large commercial shit, you got so much food.

Speaker 1 So normally the quality of it's dropped and then there isn't as much and then the way the service is. So when they came in, it was like an immediate, obvious like upgrade.

Speaker 1 And they have to make so much for 2,000 pounds of shrimp is what he's saying? That's crazy. I don't know how he doesn't know how many meals he's got to make, though.

Speaker 1 That feels like a number that he should have known. Yeah, thought about the the poundage.
Yeah, how do you measure it in bulk? Well, because you got a certain training.

Speaker 1 Every suite has a certain amount of people, right? So it's like this suite has 21 meals, 21 people that have to be fed, I assume. But then they're doing every concession, too?

Speaker 1 Like, are they doing all the fries?

Speaker 1 Holy shit, what an operation.

Speaker 1 I don't even know how you do that. Then the security outside, there were so many people.
Yeah. So many people.
I wonder how many people are working just for this event today.

Speaker 1 I wonder if people, when they were sneaking into the stadium during that software, went through the kitchen. The finals at Concafa.
Yeah, the Argentina game United States game.

Speaker 3 No, I think it was Argentina.

Speaker 1 Oh, it was Argentina, United States. Okay.
Yeah, everyone wants to see Pelosi.

Speaker 12 Colombia.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I thought it was in it.

Speaker 1 They weren't in it. United States were in it?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was up on Argentina. He won the whole thing, remember? Yeah, because Messi was out there representing our country.
Exactly. Pigslips.
He wrote his ankle, didn't he? Bad. Bad, sad.

Speaker 1 Did not like that at all. Came back.
Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who is back on the program after becoming the the general manager of the North Carolina Tar Hero football team.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, Michael Lombardi. I'm moving.
I'm moving. Hello.

Speaker 7 It's so good to see you guys. Look, it's awesome.

Speaker 7 We got great football, college football. It's awesome.

Speaker 1 It is awesome. Everything's awesome.
Let's talk about your life. How has it been being a college general manager? I saw you at a high school taking some photos with Coach Belichick.

Speaker 1 I know you're trying to kind of get a lay of the land down there. How's it been in these first couple weeks?

Speaker 7 It's been really good. Obviously, the reception here in the state of North Carolina has been unbelievable.
This is such a great state for high school football.

Speaker 7 We've got some incredibly gifted players coming out in the 26th class, so we're trying to make sure we see all of them. And it's been really wonderful.

Speaker 7 I mean, everybody here at the University of North Carolina, from the Chancellor, Lee Roberts, down to Bubba Cunningham, the athletic director, everybody's been supportive, and they want football to be great here.

Speaker 7 And when you hire the greatest coach of all time, I think you're heading in the right direction. So we're looking forward forward to it.

Speaker 7 I think the biggest thing we have to do, Pat, here at North Carolina is bring back all the great players that have played here, whether it's Julius Peppers, Lawrence Taylors, Jeff Saturday, who you've worked with.

Speaker 7 There's been so many Algi Crumpler, I can name them, Dre Bly.

Speaker 7 This school has got great tradition, and it's our job to honor that tradition and to bring back those alumni onto this field to show that we belong in the conversation about the top teams in college football.

Speaker 1 Okay, so you guys are loving it, fully committed down there because there were some reports here now over the last couple of days, a lot of assumption and fodder, if you will, about Tom Brady, who is a part of the coaching hiring process out there for the Las Vegas Raiders, reaching out to Coach Belichick.

Speaker 1 And then there was a potential alluding to immediately about, ooh, is Bill Belichick getting tempted into coming back into the NFL?

Speaker 1 The way he structured his contract with a $10 million buyout or a $1 million buyout, depending upon what it was, is certainly something that would make it feasible for him to head to the NFL if the opportunity was to arise.

Speaker 1 Tom Brady is in the conversation to hire a head coach. He calls his old head coach.
Is he just talking to him about good old days? Is he asking him if he wants to come to the NFL?

Speaker 1 What do you know about the entirety? And how do you feel about your time at North Carolina thus far? And how long and how committed are you guys down there?

Speaker 7 Completely committed, 1,000% committed. I know for Coach Belichick and myself, those conversations, you know, look, guys that do the insider stuff for the NFL, they've got to put stories out there.

Speaker 7 That one was a complete falsehood. Coach Belichick, when that story came out, was recruiting South Jersey.

Speaker 7 You know, and today he was at Bergen Catholic, one of the teams we watched play at Ocean City, you know, and he's gone to the Hun School to recruit kids in Princeton.

Speaker 7 I mean, that story just had no legs. I think what often happens in rumoring, and I know this from doing it in the league, is people try to make a connection, A to B equals C.

Speaker 7 Well, that's not always the case. Yes, Tom Brady is being involved with interviews.
Yes, Tom Brady is doing research on head coaching coaching candidates.

Speaker 7 Yes, Tom Brady is calling people up for advice and counsel because that's why he's so great at what he does because he's listening for advice. But don't assume that that's because he's doing that.

Speaker 7 He wants Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick committed North Carolina.
He committed it to me. He committed it to the university.
There's been no conversation about anything.

Speaker 7 And we drive from this office here, is this football field behind me to where we're staying.

Speaker 7 We commute each day together and we both talk talk about how messed up the NFL is and how thankful we're in college football. Is that real? We're shaking our heads.

Speaker 1 Is that real?

Speaker 7 Yeah, because we should, yeah, that's the real conversation.

Speaker 7 I mean, this is the best job we could have at the time of our lives, and we're going to really embrace it and we're going to work hard to make North Carolina proud.

Speaker 1 Coach, because our, I'm sorry, Mr.

Speaker 1 Manager, general manager of North Carolina, and Ted Talker, and podcast host, live show host, multiple time Super Bowl champion, author, email daily newsletter, entrepreneur, you name it.

Speaker 1 A lot of people that are old school in the college world are bailing to get to the NFL because they said this college is a nightmare.

Speaker 1 And you just said that you guys are talking here very early in the process.

Speaker 1 Obviously, you're in the meta of recruiting and trying to put together your roster and try to figure out and implement your culture down there.

Speaker 1 But you're saying at this time of your life, this is perfect for you guys. Why do you think that is? Why do you think Bill and you are at the perfect time to be at North Carolina?

Speaker 7 Because we've been in pro football. We've heard no from players before.
We've known that players go for money at certain places. We know that players get lured.

Speaker 7 But the difference between college football and pro football is there's really only two avenues. There's the draft and there's free agency.
In college football, it's unlimited. We have high school.

Speaker 7 We have high school. We have the portal.
The portal reopens again. And so for all the,

Speaker 7 it's like when you go to the boardwalk at Ocean City and you're 14 years old and you see a pretty girl and oh, you can't get a pretty girl to talk to you.

Speaker 7 You go to the next pretty pretty girl there's always somebody else coming down the boardwalk and so there's always somebody else coming down the boardwalk that that's the best thing about it i've heard no more than i've heard yes but i embrace no because i know there's somebody else out there you know well we're going to go to this school okay great we'll just sign this receiver as opposed to you i don't take it personally i think to me that's what in pro football you get lied to in high school football recruiting with the agents that are doing it now they lie to you.

Speaker 7 I'm used to being lied to. I've immune to it.
But I think to me, there's more chances to improve your roster here than it was in pro football.

Speaker 1 Okay, so obviously anybody's a free agent at any time. We had Drew Rosenhaus on earlier.
How often are you negotiating with NFL agents that you've known from the past?

Speaker 1 And how big of a benefit is that for you guys? Because I assume, and I think Bill maybe alluded to it or you did, or I forget who somebody did.

Speaker 1 There's going to be agents that are telling their clients, like, hey, you should probably go to Bill Belich. You're like a Bill Belichick type guy.
Has that been happening for you guys?

Speaker 1 And how is it going to be? Oh, absolutely. Yeah.

Speaker 7 I mean, look, let's face it, okay? What I've said on your show many times is the college draft now has become a senior draft, and that's because of NIL.

Speaker 7 And so if you're a young man and you're thinking about entering the draft and you've graduated from your school, you're a grad transfer, and now you're deciding, do I go in the draft or do I stay?

Speaker 7 Well, let's say you're a fourth-round pick in the draft, fifth-round pick. You can get more money in NIL than you can in the NFL draft.
So why not come back for another year and improve your stock?

Speaker 7 And what's the best way to improve your stock? Play for a pro coach, learn the pro system, understand a pro program, have pro training, have pro-nutrition, have pro

Speaker 7 therapy, and all the things that we're trying to do here at North Carolina.

Speaker 7 I think this is, and I've said this many times on your show, that the college draft, when I first started in 1984 and we had 16, 17 rounds, it was all college seniors.

Speaker 7 Now you have a chance to make money and stay in school. Why not do it?

Speaker 7 I think it's a great opportunity and we're going to benefit from that because the agents know if you want to play pro football, North Carolina is a place that's going to teach you how to play there.

Speaker 1 Beautiful place from all accounts. I've never been, but I've heard it is a wonderful.
We're coming.

Speaker 7 We're getting you here. We're going to get you here.
There's no question.

Speaker 1 Okay, you got it. I can't wait to come down and see the place, ain't that?

Speaker 1 Boy, the unis and the merch in the swag in George. I mean, it is.
Carolina Blue. It's wonderful.
I hope you guys get it going. I'm excited to hear that you're excited about it.

Speaker 1 And I'm also pumped to hear that Bill is committed to the North Carolina Tar Heels. Let's talk about the NFL a little bit here.
D-Butt has a question for you.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Mike. Good to see you.
First of all, we got Super Wild Car Weekend coming up. Yeah, hey.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're still calling it. Super.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, that we are.

Speaker 3 So Super Wild Car Weekend coming up.

Speaker 1 Did I ever call you back? No, he knew. I left a voicemail on somebody's phone.
In 2025, I left a voicemail on somebody's office phone saying, hey,

Speaker 1 enough. Yeah.
That's what it's called. It's called Super Wild Card.
It's called Super Wild Card Weekend, because you know why? It is super. You acknowledged it's super.
It's Super Wildcard Weekend.

Speaker 1 The NFL said, we just, the reason why we added this super to the beginning of wildcard weekend because we added two more teams.

Speaker 1 We made it super. It was wild card.
Now it's super wildcard. Well, let's keep it.
Okay, and then you can go to stupendous wildcard weekend if you want to take it to the next step in that team.

Speaker 1 Anyway, so I appreciate you bringing that up. Hell yeah.

Speaker 3 And speaking of Super Wild Card Weekend, who should be on upset alert this weekend in the NFL?

Speaker 7 Well, look, I think the Eagles have a challenge. I know Green Bay losing Watson is a problem, but Green Bay has this unique ability to score with Philly.

Speaker 7 Now, Philly can control the line of scrimmage and run the ball and do what they typically do, which is keep the ball for 36 minutes and run it.

Speaker 7 Remember, there was a period in the NFL that the Eagles were gaining more yards on the ground than through the air, which is a rarity.

Speaker 7 I mean, that's service academy-like qualities that the Eagles had. I think that's going to be a challenge.
I mean, look, the North, we know, is good. I mean, Minnesota lost twice to Detroit.

Speaker 7 They lost to the Rams, but we know they're a good team. We know Green Bay is a good team, and they can pull an upset, and they can go on the road.
Bill Walsh used to say this all the time.

Speaker 7 How do you quiet a crowd? Get first downs? Right? How do you make the crowd stop cheering? Get first downs. Offensively is how you went on the road.

Speaker 7 That's why Coach Walsh had a better road record than he did home record in San Francisco because of the West Coast offense and his ability to get first downs. I think Green Bay has a chance.

Speaker 7 Obviously the Rams have already beat Minnesota. Hopefully they can play that game with all the devastation going out in Southern California right now.

Speaker 7 But I look at that Green Bay game and say, wow, I don't know if I want to draw that one right up there. I think the Chargers are playing better than the Texans currently.

Speaker 7 And then the other game, and it was last year with Russell Wilson, the Broncos, the way they pushed around Buffalo, the way they ran the ball, slowed the game down, made it very difficult on the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 7 They beat them last year when Buffalo was in that slump. Can they do it again? I don't think they can, but I think it'll be a hell of a game to watch.

Speaker 1 Broncos have been incredibly hot as of late, and hot teams towards the end of the season are normally teams that will do best in to the playoffs, but Chiefs get their asses beat in the last game of the season.

Speaker 1 Then obviously the Philadelphia Eagles situation with the benching, it's like Detroit Lions just continue to buzz all. You know, they keep going.

Speaker 1 It just makes me feel better whenever you're playing great at the end of the year going into the playoffs.

Speaker 1 But what happens on the field, who knows same did for the chargers we talked to jim harbaugh and obviously they're favored there so it wouldn't be an upset although they're playing in houston and lombo the way that harbaugh like kind of shaped his mindset around that week 18 game against the raiders was that he was telling the team that we're about we

Speaker 1 one more game away from our maximum toughness. Like we need to, we need to get we need to sharpen a little bit, a little bit more.

Speaker 1 And that's why they, that's how they were attacking the last game against the Raiders. And it's like they just beat the hell out.
And then now it's like they're completely rolling.

Speaker 1 I like the teams that are hot going in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 And then to your point about the Vikings Rams out there in LA, just like we said in the first hour, and we'd like to echo until it's all figured out, which who knows when that'll ever be with how it looks.

Speaker 1 We are incredibly sorry and send nothing but positive thoughts, even though I know it doesn't mean shit for a lot of cases

Speaker 1 to people in Los Angeles. It's crazy.
Brian McCarthy, who

Speaker 1 is potentially a part of the super, you know,

Speaker 1 conversation, dropping the super wild card thing, which we like McCarthy. McCarthy there, McCarthy here, McCarthy everywhere.
We do like McCarthy and this entire thing.

Speaker 1 But he said if the game was to be moved out of Los Angeles because of either air quality index or if the fires were able to make their way over to where SoFi is, which I think is very far from where it currently is, but these winds have been gusting at like 100 miles an hour or something, they'd be playing in Phoenix.

Speaker 1 They'd be playing in Phoenix, Arizona. So they do have contingency plans in place.
Obviously, that's not great for any party.

Speaker 1 Obviously, if that's happening, things are still not good in Los Angeles, what none of us are hoping for. But the NFL is looking into a relocation if it has to happen.

Speaker 1 And once again, nothing but positive thoughts and prayers for everybody over there with an insane catastrophe, disaster taking place right in front of us. AJ has a question for you, Lombo.

Speaker 1 Lombo, obviously, we have two great games, you know, tonight and then tomorrow night in the college ranks, and then the NFL, the Super Wildcard weekend. What have like the...

Speaker 1 the best teams done that you have been around when these games matter, these elimination games to where, yeah, you've done what you've done all season, but hey, this is when it truly matters.

Speaker 1 One or two plays can make up the whole game. What do the best coaches do to make their teams go out there and play free and actually get the best out of them?

Speaker 7 I think we, you know, we did a huge study when I was in New England. These games are often decided by who converts third and short.

Speaker 7 Who can control third and short?

Speaker 7 Everybody gets so focused on one element, but to control the football, to keep the ball, and who wins the middle eight, who's able to control the ball at the end of the first half and win the second half.

Speaker 7 Those two areas really resonate. Obviously, we're going to hear from everybody, well, turnovers matter, but missed field goals are turnovers, so you've got to be very good.

Speaker 7 Look, the Cincinnati Bengals went to the Super Bowl. They played a bunch of backup offensive linemen.
They weren't very good, but their kicker, McPherson, that year, was dynamic. Money.
Was dynamic.

Speaker 7 He was unbelievable. You need a hot kicker come playoff time.
You really do, because you can't pass up points in these games.

Speaker 7 You can't be so cavalier to think that, oh, we've got to do this, and you've got to control the third down, the third and shorts.

Speaker 7 It's not the third and five or sixes because that's just goes part of it. But you've got to be able to convert the easier downs when you have to.

Speaker 7 And it requires being physical up front with your offensive line. Look, we just saw college football.
All the teams that had buys lost, right? I think with Jim Harbaugh's approach is the right one.

Speaker 7 To be good at football, you got to practice football. To be great at football, you got to practice great.
And I think that's why he was taking that last game of the year seriously.

Speaker 7 Look, remember, Kansas City at this time of the year last year, no one thought that they were going to win a game.

Speaker 7 I was told by a lot of people after they lost to the Raiders on Christmas Day, they'll never win again. And they got their mojo back.

Speaker 7 And I think the teams that can do that this time of the year with a hot kicker are always deadly.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and dicker to kicker, obviously, up for all pro nods and pro bowl nods and everything like that out there in Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 That building, Lombo, we haven't got a chance to chat with you since going out there. Whole building all in.
Whole building. Excellent.

Speaker 1 every single person in the building even a person making a damn pizza out of the helmet pizza maker now no one and we mean no one oh pizza's the hut but that guy was very close second

Speaker 1 that guy was a very close second he was like very proud of it too like he was very proud like everybody in there uh it's a happy mission i believe is how jim harbaugh phrased it and it's real and they got guys in there

Speaker 1 Go ahead.

Speaker 7 He's great at building culture. Look, he is, that's what he does.

Speaker 7 And everybody, his team, what you see with the Colts, and as we're in this NFL hiring season, and if you're an NFL owner, what you want is your team to adapt the personality of the head coach.

Speaker 1 I'm like, Obi the Orange. Amen.
I'm like, Obi the Orange. What was that all about? He just brought the Colts out of nowhere.
I mean, we could have just powered right through that.

Speaker 1 We could have just powered right through the Colt situation, coach.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean, same thing. Look, the Raiders are sitting there looking for a coach again.
They could have had Jim Harbaugh last year.

Speaker 7 And to me, it's about understanding what fits what you need. And it's hard to find great leaders.
It's hard to find guys that do that.

Speaker 1 Jim Harbaugh is in the ring of honor for the Indianapolis Colts.

Speaker 7 It's painful to think about.

Speaker 1 Well, it is painful.

Speaker 1 I haven't thought about it until right now. It is.

Speaker 7 I'm sorry, Pat. I apologize.
But that, see, once in a lifetime comes once in a lifetime. And you've got to be able to recognize it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because when it's there, you're...

Speaker 7 He had a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to hire Jim Harbaugh last year, and they turned it down.

Speaker 1 You only get one shot. Don't miss your chance to blow, because opportunity comes once in a lifetime.
Yo,

Speaker 1 you know, that's Eminem. That's Marshall Mathers.

Speaker 1 That's 100% accurate. We stuck it.

Speaker 1 Okay, since we robbed the Colts, I'll ask you. You've been around football a long time.

Speaker 1 Eight years, nine, going on, nine years now.

Speaker 1 Chris Ballard's a good man. Great man.
Great man. We love Chris Ballard.
Great Southern draw. We'd like to let everybody know we love Chris Ballard, the human.

Speaker 1 But with what the culture has seemingly become with a lot of people speaking out and also happening down here in Miami, and it's not as deep into a culture being built and cemented in as the Colts are, but the same things are being said out of this building.

Speaker 1 And I think it's going to come out of a lot of different buildings about like the accountability is pretty.

Speaker 1 Can you just put the toothpaste back into the tube, especially when it's been cemented in for almost a decade?

Speaker 1 Eight years is a long guys are getting their second contracts and playing through them as Indianapolis Colts in this culture. Have you ever seen it just flip around? Because there is a change.

Speaker 1 No, no, okay.

Speaker 7 It only flips around when you flip the leadership because it's a little bit like you can't, all of a sudden, you can't become tougher when you haven't been tough, right?

Speaker 7 Like, let's face it, Cincinnati, you can fire Lou and hire new defensive coaches, but the problem in Cincinnati is Zach Taylor going to be tough enough and coach an offense that helps the defensive coordinator.

Speaker 7 They throw the ball every play. You become a defensive coordinator in Cincinnati.
See how you like it, right? It's a culture thing. And I think it's the same thing.

Speaker 7 You can't have guys, I mean, everybody loves Mike McDaniel. Love it.

Speaker 7 Oh, he's he's great press conference wears his high up pants up high he does look cool he's fun he does but you got to be you got to look accountability bill parcels says this all the time he told it to me relentlessly if you don't like confrontation get your butt out of coaching if you don't like confrontation get out of coaching And so you got to hold players accountable.

Speaker 7 This whole generation of, oh, everybody sings along. Let's be nice.
Let's go to Dairy Queen after the game.

Speaker 1 That's the only chance.

Speaker 1 You take me to get get an Oreo Blizzard,

Speaker 1 extra, extra, extra Oreo.

Speaker 1 You might give me a punt ball a little further. Leave DQ alone, Long.

Speaker 1 It can't be every day.

Speaker 1 It can't be every day.

Speaker 7 Nick Saban on. You have Nick on every week.
Nick will tell you that. You can't be...
You got to

Speaker 7 look, leadership's about pushing people when they go too slow. And if you don't have players that want accountability, then they don't belong on your team.
And it's the job of Shane Steichen.

Speaker 7 It's the job of Mike. They're the head coach.
They get paid $8, $9, $10 million a They're not getting paid that to draw plays up. They're getting paid that to lead the team.

Speaker 7 That's what you got to do. You got to lead the team.
And leadership is about accountability.

Speaker 1 Okay, so I love everything you're saying. And the boys have more questions for you.

Speaker 1 I'm going to drift away from the NFL real quick because I heard the most ridiculous head coach press conference of all time, I think,

Speaker 1 coming out of UCLA basketball. Mick Cronin, did you see this clip yet?

Speaker 7 I saw it.

Speaker 1 Let's run this for the people that didn't. This is a head coach of a team.

Speaker 13 But we don't play.

Speaker 1 We're soft.

Speaker 13 So don't tell me you want to win. Like, just don't tell me you want to win.

Speaker 13 So just don't tell me you want to win. It's crazy, you know, and it's every day.
I'm tired of it. It's every day.
I have the most energy

Speaker 13 of anybody at practice every day.

Speaker 13 I'm upset with everybody in that locker room, my assistant coaches and my players. I mean, I don't need to do anything else.
I almost got 500 wins. I'm only 53.

Speaker 13 I mean, it's a joke. It's a joke.

Speaker 5 But yet I come in

Speaker 1 and I have more passion and energy and pride than everybody in.

Speaker 13 That's the problem.

Speaker 1 So, what the truth of it is, Ben, it's really hard to coach people that are delusional.

Speaker 13 The hungry dog gets the bone.

Speaker 13 We got guys that think they're way better than they are.

Speaker 1 They're nice kids.

Speaker 13 They're completely delusional about who they are.

Speaker 1 They're good boys.

Speaker 1 We got some good kids. We got some nice kids.
I've never heard that out of a head coach. No,

Speaker 7 and I think he's going to regret what he said. I think to me, leadership's about standing in front of people.

Speaker 7 Look, those players just didn't come to UCLA because they liked Westwood or they liked Santa Monica Boulevard. They came there because he recruited them.
Your team's a reflection of who you recruit.

Speaker 7 And if you don't like who you recruit, you've got to change that. And that goes for pro football.
Like, you can't stand in front of the team and say, you guys are soft.

Speaker 7 It's all about the program. It's all about what we're asking you to do.
You've got to take accountability for it. Leadership's about standing in front of players when things go bad.

Speaker 7 You stand behind them when things go well. And so when you're talking about what he talked about, that's a great conversation to have with the team in the locker room behind closed doors.

Speaker 7 It's not a conversation to have in America because those players now, he got called out. You don't do that.
Now they don't trust. You lose trust in that situation.
It's behind closed doors.

Speaker 7 Look, if you think your team's not executing the way you want it, that falls on you. Remember this, and I've said this many times on your show.
You're either coaching it or allowing it to happen.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's like an old sage, basically the reality of the situation.

Speaker 1 Let's talk about calling out your team publicly and then how they respond. Coach Mayo up in New England, Gerard Mayo, fired after one season.
And now, Lombo, we're learning all these stories.

Speaker 1 We're learning a lot of

Speaker 1 stories are getting projected out there. And you don't have to throw anybody under the bus or anything anything like that, okay? I don't want you to do that.

Speaker 1 We know you and Bill are allies in this entire thing. And this situation is obviously what it is.
But whenever all these stories start coming out, those stories are coming out for a reason, right?

Speaker 1 People are trying to be like, hey, this is why a decision was made. And how do you feel about the decision that was made in that particular case or just in general one year into a head coaching run?

Speaker 7 I think it's a universal problem in the National Football League.

Speaker 7 What happened to Mayo is these owners hand the keys to the store and then they don't give them any toolbox to help them work their craft. I mean, Mayo wasn't ready to be a head coach.
He wasn't.

Speaker 7 It's not fair to him to judge him on what happened after a year. He wasn't prepared.
But the reality of it is, is there's no coach prepared to be a head coach.

Speaker 7 It's a very tough job. It's a terrain.
There was an old saying we had at the Raiders with Al Davis dealing with him is the jungle's never dangerous if you know the trails.

Speaker 7 And so one thing about being a head coach, you don't know the trails. You're learning them.
And so you're asking these coaches to do a job and you're giving them no help.

Speaker 7 And it's not, let's hire a search firm to help us. That's crap.
They're not helping you. They're helping you pick the guy that gets paid and they leave town.

Speaker 7 This is about helping the coach develop his leadership skills. I've said this since I've written Gridiron Genius.

Speaker 7 I think the league has done a disservice to a lot of minority candidates not having a leadership center.

Speaker 7 We have one here at the University of North Carolina that we're going to integrate into all the things we do with the Daily Coach. We want to create leaders.
And leadership is coaching.

Speaker 7 And I think some of these young coaches who are getting these head jobs,

Speaker 7 they're not prepared for them. They know the plays, they don't know leadership.

Speaker 7 And I think ultimately, when you look at what happened to Mayo, when you look at what happened to some of these other coaches in the league, that's ultimately where it falls short.

Speaker 1 Being a coach is really hard. I think that is, being a head coach is very, very difficult.
I think that is what we learn every single firing cycle and every single hiring cycle.

Speaker 1 We all have hope normally a headline will win over a fan base, and then you kind of watch it unfold and you're like, damn, this guy wasn't the guy or this woman isn't the woman, which I think is projected to be happening here in the next decade or so, potentially, even in

Speaker 1 GM position in the next couple years. I think there is a potential opportunity popping up there, but it's really hard.
I think it's really, really hard.

Speaker 1 And finding a great leader who can also handle itineraries and logistics and coaching and motivating and emotions and have empathy while also having an authoritarian inside of them, it's like, that's not just, you know, those don't just fall out of trees.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 that isn't something that's everywhere. So if you stick with somebody that doesn't got it, you're an asshole.
And if you get rid of somebody too quick and they have it, you're an asshole.

Speaker 1 It is hard to find a head coach, which is why I think some teams are choosing not to make any

Speaker 1 changes. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They don't want to make any changes. You know, they don't want to make any changes.
Totin has a question for you, Lombo. Yeah, I kind of have a question based off of that, Paison.

Speaker 1 Sorry, excuse me.

Speaker 1 Speaking of the head coaches, there are a lot of head coach candidates out there that are being interviewed right now, and they come from every background.

Speaker 1 Like you have Spaggs, Flores, and Sala, they come from the DC, and they used to be a head coach. True, you got Ben Johnson, who's an offensive coordinator.

Speaker 1 Cliff and Nagy, who were head coaches, but also on the offensive side.

Speaker 1 And you have a guy like, you know, Vrabel or Pete Carroll, who are more of like culture guys who were head coaches that were out last year.

Speaker 1 Do you have a favorite or do you have a favorite like avenue of where the coach comes from?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I want somebody who's a leader. I want somebody to stand in front of the man who wants to come who's willing to take on confrontation, however, you do it.

Speaker 7 You know, Pete Carroll's way of taking on confrontation is completely different than Bill Belichick's or Mike Brable.

Speaker 7 But I think you have to have somebody who understands the job, who's got a hunger to keep performing at the job. It's an exhausting job.

Speaker 7 And you don't want, look, the problem is when you interview these guys, if you're interviewing Ben Johnson, you've got to ask Ben Johnson, hey, Ben, when your special teams aren't playing well, how do you fix it?

Speaker 7 And he can't come back to to you and say, well, I'm just going to rely on my coach because now he voids of leadership. You got to have answers for every problem that comes up.

Speaker 7 And Mike Vrabel certainly does. Pete Carroll certainly does.
But some of these young coaches, they got to learn that.

Speaker 7 I mean, it's one of the, how long have we been talking about the Indianapolis defense on your show?

Speaker 1 On my podcast when I did it, right?

Speaker 7 I mean,

Speaker 7 now we're surprised.

Speaker 7 Now we're surprised. I mean, we've been saying it for three years, but somebody in the building has to say, this isn't working.
This isn't what we can do. Now, that's called disloyalty in the NFL.

Speaker 7 But to me, doing it the other way is devotion because you're telling people what they want to hear. Loyalty is telling the truth.

Speaker 7 And I think that's part of what you want from a head coach is you want somebody who can recognize those problems.

Speaker 1 Lombo, we appreciate you so much, brother. It was great chatting with you again.
Good luck getting the recruits.

Speaker 1 Good luck handling the roster. Get them in here.
You're the man.

Speaker 7 We're going to see you soon, Pat. We're going to get you down.
We're going to get the whole crew down.

Speaker 1 We need the whole crew down. Okay, you got it you got it we'll airbnb down there

Speaker 7 wear all our jordans play some goth yeah we'll play some goth at that country club you guys got we got the greatest if you think there's a sneaker collection better than ours i promise you we'll we'll double there isn't

Speaker 1 ladies and gentlemen i'm a 12 12 and a half ladies and gentlemen uh michael dombardi

Speaker 1 All right, our show will continue digitally on YouTube, ESPN Plus, Disney Plus, and TikTok Live, seemingly. Yeah.
Yeah. For the long haul.
We'll make all our picks. We'll be off tomorrow.

Speaker 1 College game day tonight, 6 to 7.30 on this set. Thank you to everybody at ESPN that set this up for us today.

Speaker 1 Then obviously the Orange Bowl this evening, the Cotton Bowl tomorrow with a game day at 6 o'clock Eastern as well. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living.

Speaker 1 Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change their life.
Take care. I feel like we really got it done.

Speaker 1 Boom. Really got it.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's take a break. And on the other side, we got to pick all the games.
Okay. Okay, we got to pick all the games.
We got to pick the entire NFL slate against the spread.

Speaker 1 Let's remember, AJ Hawk is seeing the board. He went 11-4 last week.
Wow. Week 18.
Awkward. Finished the regular season hot.
Very hot. Okay.
Yeah, he's been way over 500 the last like four weeks.

Speaker 1 He just dug himself into such a hole early in the year. Too much.
Like the Bengals. Bingo.
I did. Bingo, you started out a little slow, but then guess what you started doing? Got hot seeing it.

Speaker 1 You got in the playoffs. You started seeing it.
Well, look at this guy. I knew I was due.
I knew I was due. It took me about 10 weeks to get there.
You guys only got six weeks. Well, 14 weeks, maybe.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's a lot easier because we know all the teams so well bingo yeah we know exactly how everybody's gonna look we know that the

Speaker 1 the pittsburgh steelers are not gonna let five straight no

Speaker 3 i mean not after what i've been seeing on the internet what do you mean

Speaker 3 see some terrible top i mean they are

Speaker 1 going pause the music nick please no way they lose ladies and gentlemen if you think the pittsburgh steelers aren't going to cover nine and a half

Speaker 1 after the whole locker room, watch this video.

Speaker 1 Good set.

Speaker 1 Good set.

Speaker 1 Here we go, Steelers. Here we go.

Speaker 1 Here we go, Steelers.

Speaker 1 That was good. Why we cut it? Wait, hold on.
Why don't we cut it off? There's a full...

Speaker 1 They go on.

Speaker 1 They go on for five minutes straight right there. That's what you don't see.
That's the unedited version. It's five straight minutes.

Speaker 1 Nick was actually going the opposite direction. Yeah, I did love that.
That was weird. I didn't know how he was doing it.

Speaker 1 He said he was trying to do it to get it out of the way of the rack or whatever. How do you feel your performance was? Pretty good.
Very passionate, all-in. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I had to

Speaker 1 work up a lather. I don't know how much was on the bar because I don't count plates.
I just put as many as fit on the bar. And then you go at it and you support your boys with your whole heart.

Speaker 1 Because you bleed black and gold. That's right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you do. And I hope the locker room saw that because if they did, they'll know the passion that they need to win.
Nick, I don't know if you're near a microphone.

Speaker 1 How do you think your performance was?

Speaker 1 I assume I have not checked the reaction. A lot of people were just as startled as we were with the way you were spinning that particular towel.

Speaker 1 A handful of comments. Turns out not everyone is super particular about how you spin the terrible towel.

Speaker 1 Like I said, I didn't want to bang it off the pole there, the rack, because then you just look like a big dumb idiot if you're just banging it against the table. Yeah, true.

Speaker 1 No self-awareness.

Speaker 1 Yeah, here's the unedited version. Nick's just going to down and you just put this on repeat for four minutes, and they'll just fucking swing the shit out of you.
That's right.

Speaker 1 Boys, I like the passion. Thank you.
Whenever you were asked to do this,

Speaker 1 I know you guys were excited. Yeah, thrilled.
I know you thought maybe, you know, we can help the boys get a big-time super wild car weekend win over the Baltimore Ravens. They hated Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 1 First in a while.

Speaker 1 Haven't won a month. Forever.
A playoff game in years. They're due.
You said, thank you for the opportunity. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I saw a little bit of a buzz from you and Nick that I haven't seen in a long time. A glimmer, if you will.
There was, some real hope. You went and got your Ike Clark jersey out.

Speaker 1 Looked like it was in two balls, maybe. Maybe two separate balls, the one jersey was.

Speaker 1 I don't know how that happens, but it looked like there was two different, distinct wrinkle starters on that particular jersey. Yeah, your tie-dye t-shirt.
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 Ike Taylor and Brian Clark?

Speaker 1 No, no, Jay. Oh, no, Ike Clark.
Yeah, Ike Clark. No, just the Ike jersey.
I did not have a 2.5 jersey. Oh, I thought it was a split jersey.
No,

Speaker 1 no, no. That's all I know.
Would have been sweet, though.

Speaker 1 No, you only pull out the Ike jersey for special occasions.

Speaker 1 And I did have a bit of a glimmer, a bit of a bit of a jolt in my body because as AJ said earlier, you know, you're nervous if you can't contribute, if you can't control the outcome. We helped.

Speaker 1 We helped to control the outcome in that situation. So now, yeah, now I feel great.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I'll tell you what, whenever you guys performed the way you did, we were watching live from around a corner. We try to stay out of the mirror.

Speaker 1 I was really intrigued because you guys didn't know where that was going, how they were going to use it. You had no idea.

Speaker 1 Because we had seen another video where there was like seven Steelers legends and they were kind of like mixed together. I don't think Lynn Swan has a clue what the fuck everybody's saying.

Speaker 1 I don't think he does.

Speaker 1 Let's go, Steelers. There we go.

Speaker 3 You're too busy out there making plays.

Speaker 1 He had great footwork. No, you guys were staying around because it was Max Day in the Hock House.
Everyone, you know, hit good Max's and you personally.

Speaker 2 PR Day. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We were doing it. PR Day yesterday in the Hawk House and, you know, got the text.
So, hey, boys, throw me my towel. I already was wearing the jersey.
Oh, she didn't prepare a playing anything.

Speaker 1 He just said, I need to sing. You got it.

Speaker 1 Boys need it. Boys need it.
And he said, you got it.

Speaker 1 Thank you for doing that.

Speaker 1 Maybe Roger Wood needs to reach out and get you guys on the next track. I think he does.
We'll lift five Honda with it, Nick and Tone. Here we go.
Yeah, I think Rog could do that.

Speaker 1 He's alive?

Speaker 1 Let's get to a break. I hope so.
Rest in peace, Rog. Rest in peace.

Speaker 1 Just in case.

Speaker 1 Song's been around. You're the best, Rog.
But you said this guy's song stunk. I mean, it's all stunk.

Speaker 3 I think he's not because it was so new. You named current players.

Speaker 1 What's the song for the Dolphins?

Speaker 1 They don't have one. Miami Dolphins.
Miami Dolphins. Miami Dolphins, never one.

Speaker 1 They do have a song. Miami Dolphins never won.
Number one. Don't you? And the only.

Speaker 1 We'll get this thing back onto. And still, the only, undefeated.

Speaker 3 So Boche, shout out, rest rest in peace teas and peas mercury moors the only

Speaker 3 have some fucking respect

Speaker 1 back then you guys are too low we can't see the camera on top here there's like three dolphins fans oh yeah they're right under there right under there it's more it probably they're just working right every professional right every it's more dolphins every dolphins

Speaker 1 no they're going they're going up they're going up they're going up they're going oh they're just stepping right over stairs no respect there they are

Speaker 3 hey that's what dolph fans do there they go the answer to call.

Speaker 1 We are a little bummed out right now. Yeah.
Hey, what's the song again? Miami Dolphins. Miami Dolphins.
Miami Dolphins, number one.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 That's not a bad jingle. I'll tell you what.
I've heard that in a while. That's not a bad jingle.
Let's stop the music. We're not jingling anymore.
Hell yeah. Hey, there's no more jingling, boys.

Speaker 1 There's no more jingling, boys.

Speaker 1 Somebody who just got their ass is fired. Tom Tolesco, the man who's

Speaker 1 personally responsible for getting me into the NFL with his brain thinking that I could be a guy that could could be a punter who pitched Bill Pollyon on the idea and got me drafted to the Indianapolis Colts at pick number 222, who would then go on and become the Chargers GM, and then he would become the Raiders' GM.

Speaker 1 He is now nobody's GM, fired by the Las Vegas Raiders. Now, this is a fascinating situation.
You got to wonder, how much does Tom Brady have to do with this?

Speaker 1 Tom got in there, started peppering Tom Tolesco, and said, I don't like anything about this. Let's go ahead and move on.

Speaker 1 Or is there a couple coaches that they talked about are maybe tied to the hip with the general general manager and saying, hey, it's time to hit a reset button here in Las Vegas.

Speaker 1 D-Butt's first response, first thoughts, whenever you read this?

Speaker 3 Not shocked, you know, what happened with Antonio Pierce. You know, usually it's a marriage.
They come and go. So it's, who's the lame?

Speaker 3 Carthon just got fired.

Speaker 1 Yep, from Tennessee.

Speaker 3 But Callahan is still there, so they kept him. But you don't see that much.
So not shocked, especially with the reports coming out that Tom Brady is going to be very hands-on with the next hire.

Speaker 3 And kind of the next,

Speaker 3 where the vision for the team is going forward.

Speaker 1 So not not shocked by tom and i think tom will land on his feet tom tolesco is a good man he's he's a good man he was good to us but what that raiders team had become is just uh

Speaker 1 you know

Speaker 1 i don't say laugh but not good

Speaker 1 never it was never talked about in like a super political

Speaker 1 yeah there we go that i think that's a good cluster a shit show a all those things last year whenever antonio pierce was the interim and they had good vibes they're smoking cigars in the locker room raider they're doing the whole thing it's like here we go here we go this year has just been the complete opposite of that They didn't ran a quarterback.

Speaker 1 So that's potentially on Tom Tolesco, I guess, is what they're thinking in the entirety of this. But that's definitely just a Raiders situation, seemingly, as a whole.

Speaker 1 AJ Hawk, how do you feel about the Tom Tolesco, and what do you think this means for the Las Vegas Raiders? I mean, Raiders obviously clean and house.

Speaker 1 It does, yeah, unless the GM is part of the head coaching search, it doesn't really happen too often.

Speaker 1 I believe was it, was John or the Seattle Seahawks, they brought in John Schneider to pair him up with Pete Carroll back in the day, I believe. Pete kind of had a choice in that, I believe.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't know about that, but like, I know you have to have a good pairing.
What is it called? Organizational, what are they, what's the word? Organizational

Speaker 1 synergy or whatever word from the alignment. Alignment.
That it is.

Speaker 1 Organizational alignment. It's a big thing.
Like, there's a lot of coaches in the NFL. I don't want to say a lot, maybe a handful, that don't have a chance of hell at winning because

Speaker 1 the owners, the GM, like the front office, if that's not right, the head coach has no chance. And I think we're seeing that.

Speaker 1 And I think those two, the GM head coach, especially and owner, they have to have the singular vision of where the team is going. They're also in the AFC West, so that's going to be tough.
Very.

Speaker 1 For a long time.

Speaker 1 Chargers just got real good real quick with the introduction of Jim Harbaugh in the exit of Tolesco. Yeah.
Right.

Speaker 1 Staley almost, you know, and I'm not saying that that is exactly the case, but if Tom Tolesco would have hired Jim Harbaugh, maybe a little different story.

Speaker 1 The Chargers obviously couldn't do that because he's with Michigan at the time, but it's like, you got to have success, and if you don't, you're going to lose your job. Broncos, too.

Speaker 1 What's What's that?

Speaker 2 Same division. You know, it's like.
Oh, yes.

Speaker 1 Yeah. They're in the playoffs as well.

Speaker 2 They've got three playoff teams in that division.

Speaker 1 And the Chiefs, and the Broncos are only going to get better. They're going to get access to more money as the seasons roll on here because they're still paying the Russell Wilson tax.
And Brady's.

Speaker 1 Brady said there's only one Tom in this building. Do you think that was? Yeah.
Two Toms? Can't have two Toms. But you go by Thomas, maybe.

Speaker 1 And then Tom Tolesco is like, never. They name me Tongum.

Speaker 1 I'm not an actual Thomas. My name isn't Thomas.
Aren't you actually Thomas? Maybe you go with Thomas. And Tom Brady was like, I fucking own the team.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And Tom Tolesco was like, I'm general manager. And Tom said, not anymore.
Or maybe Tolesco, Tom Brady, walked into Tolesco's office and he was doing Muay Tyne. He said, we're not doing this.

Speaker 1 This is not good news. I was just reminded.

Speaker 1 Mitt's dad's name is Tom McMahon. Oh, no.
Shit. So many Toms over there, there could only be one, I assume.
Yeah, but when it got too confusing, Tom McMahon, I think there's other names for him.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, middle gentleman. Yeah, so it's like, eh, you're fine.
You can stay. Let's get to a break.

Speaker 1 We'll be back on the other side, picking all the games, and then wrapping up here from the Orange Bowl. We can't thank you enough for joining us.
It's a beautiful Thursday down here in Miami.

Speaker 1 Beautiful. Also, just found out it was Thursday last night.
Late last night, found out that today was Thursday.

Speaker 1 So I've been talking about the Notre Dame Penn State game as if it was at least three, four days away.

Speaker 1 Even said it yesterday. Said, man, Notre Dame Penn State on Thursday is going to be wild.

Speaker 1 And I was reminded, that's tomorrow. Here we are.
Tomorrow is now today. Yep.
And holy hell, we got a big one here in Miami. All right, be a friend.
Tell a friend something nice.

Speaker 1 It might change your life. And if I were you, I would try the cornbread.
If you're ever in a Sodexo Live stadium, I would also try these football pops. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Hey, we're, you know, we like to boom out a building. Yeah.
Okay. Those football pops, five big ones.
Yeah. Maybe even six big booms.

Speaker 1 I'm telling you, the texture, the taste, the

Speaker 1 convenience, yeah, the moisture, but the convenience on eating it. Oh, yeah.
Usually, kebab-like shit is a little bit uncomfortable or awkward to eat. Football pops, very easy to eat.

Speaker 1 The meat also, yeah, had some good meat. I had some good meat after meat, yeah.

Speaker 1 The cake pops stole the show. They did.
And you have to expect that because AJ and Big Justice, this is their home stadium. They're not coming through here eating shitty cake pops.

Speaker 1 What are we talking about? They did not like Texas Roadhouse as much as I thought they were going to. I don't know.
Yeah, normally we like to boom out a building. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's a one-boomer. Yeah.
Boom.

Speaker 1 Move on to a salad.

Speaker 1 Big Justice likes this salad a lot more than me. Okay, four booms.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I'm giving it two and a half. Oh, geez.
The snakes charred. I mean, it's not even.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of fat. I don't.
I'd love to give it five. It's one boom.
I'm sorry. Boom.

Speaker 3 Where the fuck did they think they were going?

Speaker 1 That's what I think. What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 What are you talking about? Look, I love Texas Roadhouse. Me too.
Did they do the rolls? Do they give them? They didn't. They did a shot.

Speaker 1 Okay, so that's the only thing from Texas Roadhouse that's like, no. What? Is the rolls.
Everything. Everything.
That Texas Roadhouse is good. Not anymore.
You like Texas Roadhouse? Love.

Speaker 1 What was up with Big Costco? No,

Speaker 1 he was not throwing out booms at all.

Speaker 1 Here's the issue I had as well.

Speaker 2 Not only, yeah, you're not going to a Michelin-rated steakhouse, okay?

Speaker 1 It's a fucking Texas Roadhouse.

Speaker 2 There's a chance of high school kids cooking your steak. That's bound to happen.

Speaker 1 But with a great work ethic.

Speaker 2 Without a doubt. And they did mention that.

Speaker 1 He said, staff, friendliness, cleanliness. That's five booms.
Boom, boom, boom, boom.

Speaker 1 I'll give another one. Boom.

Speaker 2 You know, so they did. But maybe next time you go to a restaurant, don't let your fucking 11-year-old kid order everything, huh? Maybe be the adult and say, no, we don't need the salad.

Speaker 1 What? And we don't need the

Speaker 1 salad. We want to keep the salad.

Speaker 2 Sure, but then.

Speaker 1 Comes out ice on an ice cold plate. It's just one of the treats.

Speaker 2 Besides, I mean, getting fries with cheese and bacon on it, and then the bloomin' onion.

Speaker 1 So good. The bloomin' onion, you go, you go to the outback for the bloomin' onion.

Speaker 1 The bloomin' onion is not a Texas Roadhouse thing.

Speaker 1 I didn't even think of the blooming onion whenever they were at Texas Roadhouse. The fries with cheese that loaded.

Speaker 1 Boom, boom. That's fat.

Speaker 1 That is. It just says the nearby has a lot of fat.
Yeah, that's a ribeye. The Russo wasn't there?

Speaker 1 It was

Speaker 1 Big Justice, Lil Justice. Yeah, and Mama Justice.
Mama Justice gave four big booms for something. She was, it's not bad.

Speaker 2 She said the shrimp was shite. She said you can taste the ocean on it.

Speaker 1 It's too salty. Too much brine.
Yeah. Grizzler might be kind of reading the room a little bit.
No. Oh, I need to do.
Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 I'm going to take this.

Speaker 1 This is Justin Timberlake, Backstreet Boys, in-sync situation. No, Justin Timberlake was with in-sync.
If we're going to make the reference with some of the things. That's why I said in-sync second.

Speaker 1 I just couldn't remember which one.

Speaker 1 Nick Lachey was Backstreet Boy. Oh, 98 degrees.
Nick's no brilliant. Hell yeah.
Nick

Speaker 1 Carter. Nick Carter.
That's who I'm thinking of.

Speaker 1 That's on me. My boy bands.
The history in my brain gets, you know, confused. Yeah, you don't even remember.

Speaker 1 O-T-K-O-D?

Speaker 1 O-Town. What is it? O-Town.
O-Town. B-2K.
You plus me equals us. Yep.

Speaker 1 Liquid Dream. B2K.
I remember B2K. Yeah.
You sure? B-T-K? Yeah, May. Wow, you remember B2K?

Speaker 1 BTK Killer? Let me hear a song. Let me hear a song.
That's your favorite one, right? Baby, turn around and let me see. That's everybody go bow, bow, bow.
Yeah, I remember B2K. Oh, Marion?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I remember that.

Speaker 1 That was good. What about the direction, boys? One? Yeah.
Whoa, I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1 Lately, they're down in the dumps. They were.
Oh, yeah, because old buddy. One of them died.
Yeah, that's sad. Damn.
That's sad. Those kids, the kids, Britney Spears.
She's doing okay.

Speaker 1 She's doing great. Let's get to a break.
She's seven years old now.

Speaker 1 I'm so confused. My wife.
is too. She's scratching her.
My wife

Speaker 1 follows her and shows me the rest of the girl.

Speaker 1 I don't know if my wife follows her or if she pops up into her algorithm seemingly every day doing something new, but there's a Britney Spears update in my house more often than I could have ever imagined in 2025.

Speaker 1 Yeah, dad was painted as a really bad guy. Turns out, maybe.
No, we don't know.

Speaker 1 Maybe not that bad of a guy. We don't know how we got here, brother.
Yeah. Well,

Speaker 1 or have we always been here, you know? She got her life back. Now she's in kindergarten.
Oh,

Speaker 1 Billy Madison. All right.

Speaker 1 This shirt's from

Speaker 1 all right. I'll be back.

Speaker 1 So with the boys, we'll be making our picks. It's colder in Miami than we could have imagined.
Yeah, it's seemingly getting colder. It will be colder tonight.
I already checked. Great.

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Speaker 1 is magnificent and they're moving the heated benches into the stadium as we speak. Penn State did it first.
Now, Notre Dame is putting their heated benches in here.

Speaker 1 Yes, that is the temperature that people are feeling. They're moving heated benches in to the Orange Bowl.

Speaker 1 Now, I am incredibly proud of these teams, not only being ready for this, but also being prepared and in the moment to have this, because this is not something I'd be thinking of if you're coming down to the Orange Bowl in Miami.

Speaker 1 There's a little briskness in the air, there is maybe a little bit of exhaustion, and also

Speaker 1 there's a report now coming out of on three, which is obviously on it. Whenever it comes to college ball.
The Notre Dame team might be battling a little bit of a flu. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Penn State fans obviously can see this and think to themselves, well, who all has it, Tyler Horca? Let us know who's battling.

Speaker 1 Well, they're saying it's mostly backups and special teams players, which is obviously goes hand in hand, but certainly something to monitor if we know anything about the flu.

Speaker 1 Because the flu, that'll go from one person to the next quickly. Need to keep somebody isolated.
They got the flu, especially if it's on Orange Bowl Day. Darius J.
Butler, nine-year NFL vet.

Speaker 1 How do you feel about a little bit of a bug hitting a Notre Dame locker room?

Speaker 3 That's a little concerning. We got a few hours until kickoff.

Speaker 3 Definitely concerning. They said backups, special teams.
We know how critical special teams can be. And backups, you know, you never know.
You're always one play away.

Speaker 3 So definitely concerning what's going on in that locker room right now.

Speaker 1 Especially Notre Dame's special teams, which has been very, very vital to their success thus far all season. but in the college football playoffs for sure.

Speaker 1 AJ Hawk, have you ever played a game with flu? And how do you feel about how they monitor and manage it until game time?

Speaker 1 Let's put those dudes into a vacuum and keep them away from everybody else, is the mindset I would assume. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 Have any of you guys ever at any level sat out of a game for an illness or being sick? No.

Speaker 1 No. It's not a possibility.
I've had a teammate.

Speaker 3 No, I have a teammate. I've had some teammates.
They were like super shivering, losing their minds.

Speaker 1 Matt Hasselbeck was a dead body. Oh, he played.
He had, what do you get from bad?

Speaker 1 E. coli or chicken? I remember when that was.
He had E. coli.
He was in the hospital the night before until like 4 a.m.

Speaker 1 Got to the stadium in Houston, and it looked like Kenny with a hoodie over his head on the floor, bag of bones on the ground. Didn't know who it was.

Speaker 1 Thought somebody from Houston maybe snocked in, was passed out, hung over. Let's tell an epic story.
We're going to break into the Colts locker room.

Speaker 1 Kicked the thing on the ground in the hoodie a couple times. Hoodies revealed.
Who is it? Starting quarterback for tonight, Matt Hasselbeck. That's great.
I didn't know that was going to happen.

Speaker 1 It was an attic and basement type situation as the security people kind of roll through and the setup committee continues here at the Orange Bowl. But he played.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And he had lost, I think, somewhere near like 14, 15 pounds from everything that had been taking place that was exiting out of his body. I guess it all depends.

Speaker 1 The timing of it, getting it right now means the worst if it's hit coming, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 If it's happening today, a couple bags of IBs definitely helps. This temperature not being too hot would also help as well, I think.

Speaker 1 Can you imagine being super duper sick playing in an 85-degree humid game?

Speaker 1 Stink turnover.

Speaker 1 Let's go back to the truck with our Canadian internet splunker, Gumpy. Gumpy, what's that shot you get once a week or whatever it is? What's that thing you get done? NAD Plus.

Speaker 1 It's more of anti-aging, but it would help in this situation, too.

Speaker 1 Okay, so if everybody was getting NAD Plus dumped in their bodies in the Notre Dame locker room, would that help kick the flu out of their body or what do you think?

Speaker 1 They'll probably do that, and then they'll have another bag with the B12 and all the vitamins as well. You can double up on it.
When did we start doing that?

Speaker 1 We started doing that down in Cary, North Carolina. It was a real life changer.

Speaker 1 You know, it's obvious you have to deal with needles going into your NIVs and everything.

Speaker 1 But they have a capability nowadays with modern science to really get you replenished whenever in the past you just had to deal with it for a couple of days. There's now an instant kind of reaction.

Speaker 1 I wonder if that helps with flus. I do.
I mean, these are young fluids.

Speaker 3 Young, healthy, man. Young, healthy lad.
So I expect.

Speaker 1 Special teams, guys, dogs, too. It's a college football playoff.
I mean, we started with 12. We're counting down to one.
Bingo. Where are we at right now? We're at four.

Speaker 1 Come on now, boys. New schools get a shot to shine.
Exactly.

Speaker 1 Another day in Penn State, Texas, Ohio State. New schools get a shot to shine.

Speaker 1 You're right. Is there a shot now? Yeah, he is.
The line hasn't moved at all.

Speaker 1 So sports books aren't taking a flu seriously. Okay.
You think everybody's going to be Michael Jordan?

Speaker 1 It's big flu probably trying to get it. The bunny line has moved a bit.

Speaker 1 Probably.

Speaker 1 It was minus 118 Notre Dame earlier. I just checked.
Is my minus 110. I don't think they're hungover either of these.
Yeah. No way.

Speaker 1 Might be a little tired from being up all night playing our video games. Yeah, bingo.
They're gaming devices, if you will. Yeah, maybe too many energy drinks.

Speaker 1 Bailey McComas didn't make the trip this time because we didn't have enough seats actually on a plate. It was nice to have him around.
This would be something he would know.

Speaker 1 Can you get sick from drinking too many of those energy drinks while you're gaming? Yeah, you can die. I mean, that was like a thing.
Yeah, you could die. Gumpy houses is Celsius, 6.15 a.m.

Speaker 1 I don't know how it does it. Every day.

Speaker 1 With the NAD. NAD Plus.

Speaker 1 Actually, health. Me too.
I had a real problem. I was drinking the diesels.

Speaker 1 Those are the one things that actually affect me in a negative way. Me too.
Celsius. The ooze juice at Monday Night Raw was delicious.
Yeah, Zella's energy. What was the white peach?

Speaker 1 Was the one that we had? Yeah, white peach was delicious. It was very good.
It was good. It was in a couple offices.
Obviously, got some moose juice here. Is this for everybody, or who's this?

Speaker 1 You could certainly have some moose juice. Sweet.
There was a tropical punch, there was a berry, and then there was a white peach. The white peach can was the coolest looking one.
So I grabbed those.

Speaker 3 Did you get it directly from the high chief?

Speaker 1 Talking about high chief Siwooley? Yes. I do believe he was.
Is that his name? Wow. I thought Hulkster said something else.
No, that was from the press conference. I think Hulkster was in the moment.

Speaker 1 Yeah. A little emotional.
Zeke up.

Speaker 1 He was a little zeke up out there. That's going to happen, obviously.
The Hulkster said a lot of things. Have you

Speaker 1 wrestled against Hulkster in the future?

Speaker 3 A couple nights ago, I have, but somebody just literally, during the break, I saw tag me on another

Speaker 1 video with the Hulkster, kind of two-on-one in the ring.

Speaker 3 Kofi Kingston and Xavier Woods.

Speaker 1 Hulkster law just hitting a couple. That's because because the press conference, probably, because Kofi.
It was

Speaker 1 Farouk making an appearance.

Speaker 1 I didn't see it. Oaks are just beating ass.
Pete Thammel just had a report about the Georgia Bulldogs. Carson Beck has hit the transfer portal.
Whoa, knowledge. ESPN source.

Speaker 1 Beck originally stated that he planned to enter the NFL draft on three now. First reported that Beck's intentions have also gone to the transfer portal.
Can you do both?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 Cam Warden.

Speaker 1 Did he get Tommy John on his elbow? Yes,

Speaker 1 yes, yes, absolutely calling up Pete right now.

Speaker 3 Good move. He probably got some information back, grays back, maybe didn't like it, didn't love where he was projected.
So, you know what?

Speaker 1 Especially with the injury that he got to his elbow, maybe another year to build, plus another massive check coming. Guys won a national championship or two, so been on a roster for a couple.

Speaker 1 So, I mean, he's going to get a massive check for us. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Does he like football? I think he needs to prove that.

Speaker 1 I think if I was a team that was thinking about paying Carson Beck to go either in the NFL or in the transfer portal, I've seen too many photos that shouldn't be leaked.

Speaker 1 I don't like that his privacy is getting exposed in this thing. And it might all be AI, and then he should address it if that's the case.

Speaker 1 All of it might be fake, but it's like, there's a real question on whether or not the guy is like obsessed with football. Some of the things he said, you have to wonder like, okay, is this...

Speaker 1 He played good whenever he played good. Lost Brock Bowers, lost Lad McConkey.
That's going to do damage to anybody.

Speaker 1 Gunner Stockton, I guess, is the guy going forward down there in Georgia or somebody else that they bring in to the Georgia Bulldogs because obviously they didn't appreciate an early early exit, but that Notre Dame team just beat the hell out of all of them.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 Carson Beck Transfer Portal. He could be your quarterback.
He'll be a hot commodity. Coming to a town near you, definitely.

Speaker 1 How much will he get? He'll get two, three, five mil. Like, is that just a going rate? I don't know.

Speaker 1 With the salary cap thing, too, I have no idea because I think there's a lot of, April 8th, there's a chance that a lot of these deals are going to not be. Null.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
So I think a lot of people know that. So they're saying, hey, all this needs to come before April 8th.

Speaker 1 So now there's an even more Wild, Wild West with a sense of urgency about, like, hey, these deals don't need to look like this.

Speaker 1 Joining us, ladies and gentlemen, a man Zu's tweet we just read and also the authority on college football. Ladies and gentlemen, Pete Dammel.
Yeah, Pete, Pete.

Speaker 1 How you doing, Pete?

Speaker 12 I'm right around the corner in the bowels of this fine stadium, Pat.

Speaker 1 Well, welcome to stadium. We've been here since this morning.
It's been an honor to open this place up today. Yeah.
Happy Orange Bowl Thursday, Pete, to you.

Speaker 1 There's some news coming out of the college football world. On three reported, I believe, that there's a potential flu flu situation with Notre Dame.
Is that true?

Speaker 12 I've been told the flu, which had been lingering around there and impacted Bo Collins in the last game, Pat, is not going to have an impact on the game tonight.

Speaker 12 I got hard pushback from sources at Notre Dame

Speaker 12 when I ran that buy.

Speaker 12 I don't think we will see anyone of significance miss this game tonight or have an impact on the game at all.

Speaker 1 Okay, the sports books feel the same way as you. Not much movement other than on money line goes from minus 118 to minus 110, I believe, even though Notre Dame remains favored by one.

Speaker 1 And then what we were just talking about there, Carson Beck, who initially stated that he was going to the NFL, now entering the transfer portal. Are you allowed to do both? How's this work?

Speaker 1 And what do you expect out of the Carson Beck decision?

Speaker 12 Well, if you remember, Cam Ward did this last year, Pat. Remember, he declared for the NFL draft and then did a U-turn and went to Miami.
And

Speaker 12 my quick brush on making some calls on this today is that Miami would loom as the favorite for Carson Beck.

Speaker 12 They right now don't have an incumbent starter or or quarterback. Mario Cristobal has shown an affinity from the success that Cam Ward has had to have an established guy come in.

Speaker 12 There obviously is going to be the lingering issue of Beck's elbow,

Speaker 12 which would probably cause him to miss part of Springer. You may have to adjust spring around him.

Speaker 12 So again, that's not confirmed or done, but I think if you're handicapping where he could go, that would certainly be one of the options.

Speaker 12 Texas Tech has been pushing hard for a starting quarterback as well.

Speaker 12 So I think they could loom in the background here too. But look, Carson Beck is going to be

Speaker 12 a healthy Carson Beck would be a top of market quarterback. He's a frontline starter who did not obviously play great this year, but he has first-round talent.
There's a lot of belief in him.

Speaker 12 Remember the poll we did at Cal that morning

Speaker 12 had, I think, five of the 20 NFL scouts that I talked to thought Carson Beck was the best quarterback in this draft on October 5th, I believe it was. So there is a strong talent base there, and

Speaker 12 there will be a market for Carson Beck, especially when you funnel it through the fact that the quarterback needy places really need them now because there won't be,

Speaker 12 you know, there just won't be a lot of high-end quarterbacks left in the market.

Speaker 1 We talked to Lombardi earlier, the general manager of North Carolina.

Speaker 1 He said the draft is becoming a senior draft because of how much money you can make through the NIL and through the revenue sharing that's coming in college.

Speaker 1 So it might keep people in college longer at these high-profile positions, especially if they're not projected to be top 10 anymore or something like that.

Speaker 1 What is a market for a quarterback like Carson Beck? How much money? Is that millions? Like, what is the number you think in most cases?

Speaker 12 Yeah, I would say that just to give people context, an average power conference starter is in the 700,000 to a million range at this point.

Speaker 12 And your high, high-end guys, I've heard numbers eclipsing 3 million this year in this market. We're at a, and Ty is going to get excited because I'm going to use some big words here.

Speaker 12 We're at an odd confluence in the market, Pat, where the places that had large NIL stashes now basically these guys can double dip.

Speaker 12 You can unload all the NIL money you had because you have RevShare money coming.

Speaker 12 You'd mentioned the date where that's supposed to be formalized by Judge Wilkins. So right now, it's almost like the market is flooded and guys are getting overpaid.

Speaker 12 And so I would think that, you know, Carson Beck over $2 million would just be my general estimate, would be about the market where he has. And it's just exponentially bigger than it was a year ago.

Speaker 1 That's awesome. I hope Carson Beck gets his money.
Good luck to him. And thank you so much, Pete.
Can't wait to watch you tonight on College Game Day, 6 p.m. Eastern, live from the Orange Bowl.

Speaker 12 Thanks, Pat. See you soon.

Speaker 1 All right. See you, Pete.
Good point. Yeah, Pete.

Speaker 1 That's the authority. So the flu is not a big deal.
No. No.
A couple guys pooped. Couple guys puked.
That's all. It's playoff football.

Speaker 1 Might be nervous. Pete's point about the guys getting kind of double dipping now.

Speaker 1 I also can't remember who I was listening to, but there was a lot of talk of these schools front-loading contracts and giving the guys a bunch of money now, kind of like NFL teams do, so that when the

Speaker 1 con or the decision is made on April 8th or whatever it is, that that money's already been given them. So it won't go against their cap next year.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I've had a little bit of,

Speaker 1 you know, an eye on the portal. Sure.
And how these deals are going with all what West Virginia is doing. Don't look now.
Thanks. Running back coming to Ohio State.
You guys amazing.

Speaker 1 Hey, Yeah, CJ, good luck out there. Good luck out there.
CJ Donald. He'll be a good buckeye.
The other one's staying in Morgan. Yeah, he'll be a good buckeye.
Jaheem, yeah, sticking around.

Speaker 1 Why coming and sticking around? Nico Mozzarello coming, you know, sticking around. We got some transfer wide receiver, got some transfer linebacker.

Speaker 1 I don't know who Nico's playing, but the guy they're bringing in. Agreed.
And there's also a freshman that is on the team still that is a guy

Speaker 1 bringing the old ball club back. Yeah.
Old DC's coaching again. Okay.
We're bringing. I mean, it is.
Uh-huh. Western is going to win.
Neil Brown, good guy. Great guy.
Good guy.

Speaker 1 He was able to win six games a year. Big go.

Speaker 1 So I will assume, think about that, that we will get some wins in the Big 12. Now, there's some teams that have come out of nowhere, certainly.
BYU, holy hell.

Speaker 1 Arizona State, what is that out of nowhere? Iowa State, is he going to be there?

Speaker 2 I don't know. Sounds like it's kind of a done deal to the Bears.
So hate that for everybody

Speaker 2 in Ames.

Speaker 1 Why is that always happening?

Speaker 1 He's an unbelievable.

Speaker 2 He's a great coach. He is a great coach.
A couple years ago,

Speaker 2 he almost got the, they were talking about him as a finalist for the Lions job before Dan Campbell got it. And several years ago, he was also like a finalist for the Jets job.

Speaker 2 So his name has been up there. But I think it's one of those things, like he is the best coach that Iowa State has ever had.
So I think he knows like he has that job forever. He is sick.

Speaker 2 It doesn't matter what he does. He's coming off their most successful season ever.

Speaker 1 So it's kind of one of those things where, do you want to go to a situation where you're going to go to potentially like a shitty NFL team and just flame out in a couple years i mean i'm sure iowa state would take him back but like he's he's the toast of the town of name so i don't know why he'd want to leave interesting uh big 12 west virginians west virginia's coming everybody needs to know that i think a lot of teams are also scared to pay people right now because there is another transfer portal coming after spring ball So like you pay somebody now, they come in for spring ball, they hate it.

Speaker 1 They're back in the transfer portal. It happened a bunch last year.
And they haven't wasted a season yet either because it's just spring ball.

Speaker 1 So like I think there is a lot of people that are a little bit scared on when they spend their money. All right, speaking of money, let's go ahead and pour money where our mouth is.

Speaker 1 Let's pick the entire spray show.

Speaker 1 Super wild car weekend. I cannot believe that they're trying to take super eyes.
Both is so dumb. So dumb.
We got a super bowl and we got super wild car weekend.

Speaker 1 They're bookending the NFL postseason for a reason because the postseason's super. What are they doing? Why are they doing it? I don't like it one bit.
AJ,

Speaker 1 I heard you like it that they're getting rid of the super wild car weekend. No.

Speaker 1 I heard that you love the fact that they're not going to be doing any more stupid marketing for a weekend that's already gigantic. I heard you want it just to be wild card weekend.

Speaker 1 Whose decision was this? Did we ever nail it down on who did this? I assume there was a room full of brilliant people who.

Speaker 1 Should have had a nine-hour meeting to talk about it over three different days.

Speaker 1 Had to get approved by three different SVPs, I assume, before it gets to somebody who maybe can have some sort of information. It might not even make it to somebody that actually makes good decisions.

Speaker 1 It might just be, this might have been a decision that was made here and then, right, we're done with it.

Speaker 1 i don't like that they said they are quietly moving away from it if you're gonna do it do it own it just say no we're not doing it anymore wild cards no longer super fucking deal with it yeah

Speaker 1 i can disagree but i respect but it is super they said it's still super but not named super so dumb you think it's stupid right there spectacular they'll change it back no they won't don't take spectacular it's our draft show that's a good point draft spectacular it's super wildcard i mean they had a winner and don't do suspend us

Speaker 1 that's it last time somebody got sensational that That works. Sensational wildcard weekend? No, it's super wild.
Super wild card weekend. I'm just bowing ideas.

Speaker 1 But it could be sensational divisional run.

Speaker 1 I'll go with S-words. The wild, wild card.
Yeah. Wild, wild card.

Speaker 1 Yeah, too. Wicka, wicka, wild.
Wild, wild, wild card. Yeah.
Wicka wick a wild. Yeah.
That's not bad. That's not bad.

Speaker 1 If they're going to roll out something else, then maybe we'll appreciate it.

Speaker 1 We're going to feel beautiful. Once again, remember this turf was grown 80 miles north of here.
Stephen Ross said, I don't want to be dependent on other people's sod. We'll make our own Bermuda grass.

Speaker 1 We will change this eight to ten times a year. And this Bermuda grass is getting rolled over.
Said there isn't a lot of slick stuff happening right now.

Speaker 3 They're fixing it right now. They're fixing it right now.
So I'll take back everything I said earlier. I should have known better.

Speaker 1 Tell you what, I iron a t-shirt. Okay, I enjoy doing that.
Pretty good with the iron. Hit that steam thing on it.
Oh, yeah. That's what they're doing in this field right now.

Speaker 1 They're ironing the field. It's smart.
Fast track. It looks amazing.
Looks like field turf.

Speaker 1 And if they do it eight to ten times a year they know what they're doing it's gonna be great it's the only thing they do know how to do grow your own grass what what do you mean they don't know how to win playoff games they know how to put people in motion on offense they do yeah and confused quarterback that looks cool which quarterback

Speaker 1 whoever's playing that day

Speaker 1 not super tua

Speaker 1 i don't know from from what we heard from tua sounds like it was a little bit money i heard he hurt his hip because he was sending too many people in motion too much has been talked about maybe gumpy should mention everyone so let's pick every game on super wild card weekend first one chargers traveling to take on the houston texans the afc south champions take on wild card los angeles chargers uh chargers favored by three have certainly played great football as of late the houston texans get aziz al-shair back on the defensive side remember he was suspended for three games for uh numerous uh

Speaker 1 violations to the

Speaker 1 nfl team and once again ladies and gentlemen the grass ironers are back.

Speaker 1 Seem to have a little bit of a power to it. I don't know if that's steam like I like to use when I'm on the iron or if that's potentially.

Speaker 2 Sounds like you might have chewed up a chain link or something.

Speaker 3 That's diesel.

Speaker 1 Good bit of power.

Speaker 1 I like how they're doing it numerically, you know, starting at the 10. Cotton down to 10.
Cotton down to one? Yeah.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 I was just going to say they could have started on that side, but I'm glad they started down here. No, this is their side.
Yeah, yeah. This is their side.
Who's on that side? They'll get down there.

Speaker 1 That's Penn State down there. Oh, that's Penn State.

Speaker 1 Those are Notre Dame's guys. Got fans behind the Houston.
Those are the other guys. Come on.
All right, let's pick Super Wildgoer weekend.

Speaker 1 Chargers favored by three. Hot.
Houston Texans obviously beat the hell out of the Titans last week, but haven't been playing their best ball. CJ Stroud says he likes being the underdog.
Those are

Speaker 1 the type of dogs that everybody likes. What, the underdogs? Yeah, other than the overdogs.

Speaker 1 The underdogs, the other guys. Yeah, or the

Speaker 1 underdogs?

Speaker 2 Yeah, the well, yeah, in this situation, Texas or the underdogs, even though they're at home, but I don't know. You look at those other guys.

Speaker 2 I wouldn't want to be playing those other guys this weekend.

Speaker 1 Do you like those guys or no? Ooh, the Chargers? No, the...

Speaker 2 Oh, the under guys?

Speaker 1 The underdogs or the other guys?

Speaker 1 The other guys.

Speaker 2 I like the other guys a lot in this game, especially because we love CJ Stroud. He's kind of potting a bit in that press club.

Speaker 1 Not the under guys, though? You don't like the under guys? No, no. You know what my favorite movie is, though? What is it?

Speaker 2 The other guys.

Speaker 1 oh yeah that's a good one yeah despops yeah

Speaker 1 yep

Speaker 1 yes you're doing a great job what movie is that the otter guys oh i thought it was the

Speaker 1 i thought it was a a different movie i thought it was the uh the utter movie

Speaker 1 stanford steve is here

Speaker 1 right over there as tai schmut he's very happy to have a stamford steve that's a new one that's a yeah that is very that is within the last three weeks or so great one i enjoy you guys yeah i i really enjoy it too because how much we enjoy Stanford Steve.

Speaker 1 The standard is standard. He's wearing a Tomlin t-shirt.

Speaker 1 He knows. He knows the deal.
Hey,

Speaker 1 you want to come up here? I don't know if we have a microphone, but if you want to just come.

Speaker 1 You can share with. We're picking games right now.
We're picking the wild card. This thing's right in between my legs.
Hey, why don't you sit on the

Speaker 1 outer side over here? Outer one? Yeah.

Speaker 1 AP tone. What's up, boys? Hey, do you have an AP vote? No.

Speaker 1 No. Does Scott?

Speaker 1 No. No, he doesn't.
Do you ever get offered one? Do you turn it down? I don't know. Okay, I'll confirm it though.
I did not want one and

Speaker 1 I would have taken one if that would have what it taken to get tone one, but whenever we were both offered up one, I was very happy that I did not have to decide anything and tone has to do it all.

Speaker 1 And I think Tone is kind of regretting it after having to actually do the entire process. Let's pick the super wild card weekend.
Is Scott, are you guys still calling it Super Wild Card Weekend or no?

Speaker 1 I believe so.

Speaker 1 You should. You should.
Okay. I hope so.
Don't let the NFL stop you from.

Speaker 2 Is he the official scorekeeper here?

Speaker 1 Yeah, just a little reminders.

Speaker 1 Little reminders. Chargers, the Texans, Chargers favored by three, playing very hot.
How do you see this one going, Stanford? Steve, you like the other guys or the under guys?

Speaker 1 The underdogs.

Speaker 1 Home dogs. I know Texans, everybody's wanted more from them all year.
And it takes the checkter. Another run.

Speaker 1 Another run.

Speaker 1 Another run. Another.

Speaker 2 They're not missing one spot.

Speaker 1 No, they are not. It's unreal.
And once they hit one spot, they hit another spot. And then another and another

Speaker 2 and another.

Speaker 1 I like the Texans Texans win the game oh money line don't need to pull

Speaker 3 okay a D-butt who do you like how do you like it you know how much I love the Chargers just Herbert and the Chargers I think they go win and I think they win big you talk about teams being hot playing hot he's had his best game of the season going into a hostile environment but they pull out the win okay AJ who do you like I'm with Stanford Steve here.

Speaker 1 I like the home dogs. I think getting Al Shair back on defense, I love what they're doing.
Give me the Texans.

Speaker 1 okay nico's back too right that's a big deal he's playing great they don't have uh obviously they have injuries across the board three points feels like a lot doesn't it that feels like a this feels like it's gonna be a close one

Speaker 1 giving the chargers minus three uh steelers oh

Speaker 1 i don't like that at all why not

Speaker 1 just talk to harbaugh oh yeah toughest then we talked to the uh yadda guy and then the yacht guy too and then we went into the kitchen and talked to Yeah, the Yoder Chef.

Speaker 1 And then we went into the equipment room and we talked to... The outer equipment guys.
And then we talked.

Speaker 2 We saw the outer players, too, in the locker room.

Speaker 1 And training staff. We saw.

Speaker 2 All them outer guys as well.

Speaker 1 Give me the Chargers. Oh, yeah.
Let's go to the next game here. Pittsburgh Wolf.
If it was in Houston,

Speaker 1 they would have hosted us as well. They're a very great organization that loves us as well.
Who's that? The Texans? Yeah.

Speaker 1 11 deep? You think they would have let us just walk around that building? I do. All access? Anytime we ask them for anybody, they give them.

Speaker 1 After, I I mean, with Raw and Nephilis coming up, Casario's a big mark.

Speaker 1 He would have been hoping you to come. You're right.
I love the Texans down there. I'm a big fan of the Texans.
They got strength over in the AFC South, which is the hardest division in football.

Speaker 1 I'll take the Houston Texans representing the AFC South. There we go.
Steelers, Ravens. I should have took the other guys.

Speaker 1 Steelers, Ravens. Ravens favored by 9.5 at home.
This is absurd. This is going to be awesome for hard knocks on Tuesdays inside the AFC North.

Speaker 1 Russell Wilson and TJ Watt have lost four straight to end the season. Will they make it five in Baltimore with the Baltimore Ravens playing better than any other team in the NFL?

Speaker 1 There was a point differential that Adam Schefter tweeted out that he got a stat from Hembo.

Speaker 1 And against teams that are good teams, the Baltimore Ravens have the highest point, like plus 138 or something like that.

Speaker 1 And then the next closest team is Detroit. I think it's like plus 60 or yeah, 36.
There it is. Baltimore plus 112.

Speaker 1 Detroit plus 36 philly plus 29 these are against playoff teams baltimore has pummeled the good football teams now will that remain will that continue pittsburgh has gotten her asses beat by playoff teams thus far minus 30.

Speaker 1 stanford steve how do you see this aoc north rivalry matchup playing out uh familiarity as much as the ravens have played uh lights out lately that stretch of you know uh three games in 11 days they were awesome going undefeated plenty was made of it pittsburgh keeps it close give me the points okay Steelers plus nine and a half.

Speaker 1 I'm sure there's some sort of stat about the Ravens and Steelers.

Speaker 1 Plus five, I think, because we talked about it earlier in the season. Three.
Plus three.

Speaker 1 It was the dog. A dog of three or more was,

Speaker 1 I don't know, 17 and 18 and one.

Speaker 1 Tomlin was 13 and oh in that situation. How do you feel about your Steelers covering? Money line.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 1 Tony Donks. Exactly.
Here we go.

Speaker 1 Steelers.

Speaker 1 Here we go.

Speaker 1 Pittsburgh's going to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Here we go. Hey, when you twirl a towel, Steve, if you were to.
I'm not saying you do it on a regular basis. Right hand, you're holding like this here.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if you're to twirl, how would you twirl that thing if you had to?

Speaker 1 Okay, yep. Yeah, that way.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's a good twirl. What else do you do? Well, we had a guy twirling it the other way.
The other way. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I was hoping to get that out.

Speaker 1 Here he is. Look, he's twirling it the other way.
Look at the back. Wow.
I don't even know how it's possible.

Speaker 1 It is going the other way, though. You know,

Speaker 1 that's like hitting the head, robbing his stomach, though, he's been doing it the opposite directions there. It's really impressive.
You guys aren't coordinated enough hard now. I apologize.

Speaker 1 Very athletic. It is, because you got to get the wrist involved.
Yeah, it's good wrist involved.

Speaker 1 Yeah, dude. Here we go.

Speaker 1 D-Butch.

Speaker 1 Here we go.

Speaker 1 You like Tone? Moneyline, Pittsburgh Steelers. You like Stanford Steve? Steelers plus 9.5?

Speaker 3 You know what? The trend is typically your friend. And you talked about the plus five.
And this game is always a batter. They're so familiar with each other.
But

Speaker 3 the two-time MVP is on an absolute mission this year. He will be missing his top receiver.
He hasn't practiced a flowers.

Speaker 3 But I'm going Lamar Jackson and the Ravens and our guy Kyle Van Noy to win and to cover a nine and a half point spread on super wild card weekend. Or his first playoff win.

Speaker 1 That's fun. Well, he's won a playoff game before.
Yeah, yeah. Has he? Yeah, he has.
He's won a couple. Yeah, he has.
Has he?

Speaker 3 So is Van Noy.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 two of them. Van Noy's won a lot every day.

Speaker 1 And Harbaugh, he's going to want to know. That's the only thing he's worried about.
Did you ever read the Bible when it said about vengeance?

Speaker 6 New.

Speaker 1 Should watch Hard Knocks. Harbaugh had the boys buzzing because a little bit of sleep.
I muted when they come on. Vengeance is yours.
That's right. Says it in the Bible.

Speaker 1 Well, I think he was comparing a situation to being vengeed full. It's also a dish best served cold, and it's going to be cold in Baltimore.
How are the crab cakes going to be?

Speaker 2 Top-notch. I mean, Jimmy's never takes the day off.

Speaker 1 Did they start? They didn't start COVID. They did.
They did.

Speaker 2 They definitely started the Cicada outbreak.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. I forgot they had the Cicada parade.
Yep. They started COVID, too.
They were over there in China.

Speaker 1 I don't think that's true. Those goofballs were over.
That's where they get their crab from. Did you say goofballs, gump? You're calling the Jimmy Seafood guys goofballs?

Speaker 1 When they were over in China, when they were doing that, they were goofballs. I think they're going to be so mad that you just said what you just said.

Speaker 1 I think they're going to legit be like, hey, we say a lot of stuff about each other.

Speaker 1 That's too far. They sent me a package for Christmas, and i dm john makadakos um that's not his name

Speaker 1 a video i threw that package right in the garbage i said it's playoff time brother see you after no what they pieced together for christmas was awesome oh you guys got oh okay it's a full package sent it to the office they sent it to you okay it was to you as well okay they were definitely over there then no it was it was i know i didn't get any they made it out to you and and i think ty's name was on there as well everybody's name was on there d-bucks was on there aj was on her even all the uh all the other guys too Yeah, we're on there.

Speaker 1 Makadakis can go to hell then.

Speaker 1 Nothing you guys are saying is name right. You like Baltimore.
Yep. You like the Steelers.
Plus nine and a half. AJ, who do you like?

Speaker 6 I like Baltimore. Minus nine.

Speaker 1 Nine and a half. Nine and a half, I guess it is.
Yeah, man. I think like Debux said, look at, I mean, the stats don't really lie too much.
I kind of like that stat.

Speaker 1 They're beating up on playoff teams.

Speaker 1 They're the only team in the league beating up on playoff teams. Trend is your friend.
This trend right here, certainly a trend we should be paying attention to, you know?

Speaker 1 Plus 112 by a huge margin

Speaker 1 they beat the bills by like 40 all right how about this

Speaker 1 because i didn't think you guys gave maximum effort during the here we go

Speaker 1 oh talking to you

Speaker 1 in the video

Speaker 1 i didn't see that weight move at all did you no i just couldn't roll it actually i didn't even see it spin they couldn't even move it like this

Speaker 1 before i saw i saw it be a hardo on the internet showing off yeah he repped it like five times with the terrible tower in his hand where was i i was over at the other side.

Speaker 3 You were just walking up.

Speaker 1 I was on

Speaker 1 under side of the office. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I saw him rapping.

Speaker 1 I didn't see that.

Speaker 3 Didn't even need Nick to spot him, honestly.

Speaker 1 Bingo. The guy that was doing the other way? Yeah, he didn't need me.
How many reps do you get? Five. Oh.

Speaker 1 I'll take the Ravens. Oh.

Speaker 1 Minus nine and a half. I don't like it at all.

Speaker 3 It's a lot of points. So many points.

Speaker 1 Especially in this rivalry. They know each other so well.
Why did the Steelers go to the stadium to practice?

Speaker 1 I thought I saw a tweet that the outdoor fields at their facility are too warm. So they don't have outdoor fields? And they wanted to be in condition.

Speaker 1 Cincinnati Bengals didn't have an indoor facility and the Steelers don't have an outdoor facility. Bingo.
Russ used to do that with the Seahawks too. What?

Speaker 1 Go practice at the stadium before they won the Super Bowl. Oh, remember he did that full practice by himself too whenever he had his thumb finger.

Speaker 1 The hammer finger. The hammer.
Is that what it was called? Yeah, something like that. He busted his middle finger.
Remember that? And he did the full walkthrough at the...

Speaker 1 It's going to call at the things. Maybe that is what it was.
Maybe it was bringing the team together. Give me the Steelers plus nine and a half.

Speaker 1 Does George Pickens have a hammer finger when he plays in Nicole?

Speaker 1 What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 Hammer brain.

Speaker 1 What are you talking about? You think he hasn't shown up in a bit here? Saw a lot of drops he's last week. Yeah, but it's playoff football.
He'll be back. Give me the Ravens minus nine and a half.

Speaker 1 Give me the Ravens minus nine and a half. Then let's go to Sunday, shall we? Have Super Wild Card weekend.
Broncos, Bills, Bills favored by eight and a half at home.

Speaker 1 Stanford Steve, how do you feel about Bo Nicks, Sean Payton, Josh Allen? I absolutely love Denver here.

Speaker 1 All the pressure now is on Buffalo.

Speaker 1 I saw Sean Payton talk about the youth as dangerous when you get to the playoffs inexperienced. I haven't been there.
I think they're a capable football team. Secondary's back healthy, right, DB? Yep.

Speaker 3 Riley Moss back off?

Speaker 1 Denver plus the points. Debut?

Speaker 1 You know what?

Speaker 3 Denver's a feisty ball club. They've had a great year.
I actually like them to cover. It's eight and a half points.
I like them to cover. They'll keep it close.

Speaker 3 They're going to play a lot of man-to-man coverage, so I am interested to see how Josh Allen

Speaker 3 will dice him up, but I think they keep it close with Bo Nixon this offense. So give me the Broncos plus eight and a half.

Speaker 1 What's the weather up there?

Speaker 1 It's cold with a little bit of wind, but not like any snowy. No crazy snow.
And I don't even know who that would. That would benefit Josh, I think.
Yes. Obviously, if it was insane.

Speaker 1 But Bo's not scared to play a little weather. Neither are the Denver Broncos.
A.J. Hawk, who do you like? I like the Denver Broncos here.

Speaker 1 I think the Bills win, but I think the Broncos will cover. I love what this Broncos defense can do.
Everything that you guys are saying means we got a great game here. One o'clock on Sunday.

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 1 I'll continue the trend. Give me the Broncos.
Wow, what? I would do that as well, yeah. I was going to pick the Bills.
Josh Allen just got engaged. He's the best Josh Allen we've ever seen.

Speaker 1 He's going to play great. He's going to play great.
He's going to win, I think. I'm not even a Bills guy.
32

Speaker 1 5-7 hour wins. Oh, that's beautiful.

Speaker 1 What are you saying? You're saying we need to think about the Otters? I mean, they beat the fuck out of so many teams this year.

Speaker 1 They didn't even play last week. It was a bi-week class.
I'll take the Buffalo Bills. I'll take the Buffalo Bills.
He's engaged, guys. Yeah, I forgot.

Speaker 1 He's in love. I'll take the Bill.
Everyone is crossed out. Green Bay Packers, Philadelphia Eagles, PAC going in.
without Christian Watson.

Speaker 1 Obviously, Terror's ACL, without, you know, full confidence in what they can be, but certainly have had glimpses of greatness both on the offensive side and on the defensive side, including against this Eagles team so long ago.

Speaker 1 Saquon Barkley and the boys rest the final game of the season instead of going for the Rushing king title which is certainly something everybody would love a lot of heat on siriani all damn year if they were to lose at home as four and a half point favorites it would obviously get to a fever pitch how do you see this sunday afternoon game going stanford steve you know every super wild card weekend you got to find the blowout

Speaker 1 i believe this is the blowout wow give me the eagles minus the points oh i thought he was gonna say the packers there Ty, I thought he was gonna say it was the Packers.

Speaker 1 You knew he was going the other way?

Speaker 2 No, I'm just saying I'm taking the the other side.

Speaker 2 All the pressures on the Eagles. We're getting hurts.
Who knows how healthy he's going to be, guys? And played in two weeks. Yeah, I mean, the Packers are fucking limping in.
They've looked like shit.

Speaker 2 Absolute shit.

Speaker 1 Shite, you could argue. Wow.
Wow. But.
Hammered dog shite.

Speaker 2 Yeah, hammered dog shite. You could argue that.
But this is a better team than last year's team. Last year's team got in the playoffs, and they beat the fucking shit out of the Cowboys on the road.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Cowboys.
Jacobs.

Speaker 1 Eagles just won. Did they just win? No, Lane Johnson won.
He won a trenchy. Oh, yeah, he did win trenchy.
And the Eagles won the trenchy. They won the trenchie, right?

Speaker 1 They won the offensive line of the year. Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 They did. I mean, Packers had a guy who rushed for 1,400 yards as well.
It's not like their offensive line is not hammered dog shite. I understand the Eagles is very good.
I get Saquon's on.

Speaker 1 Trenchie. They want a damn trenchy.
I know they want a trenchie. With long hair, brother.
I know. I know.
I'm siding with Lombo. I'm taking the Packers.

Speaker 1 What are we talking about? Teebuts, who do you like?

Speaker 3 Hey, speaking of the trenches and the trenches, Eagles got the edge.

Speaker 3 Give me the Eagles to win, the Eagles to cover. Yeah, they went by at least a touchdown.

Speaker 1 Go ahead, AJ.

Speaker 1 I'm going to take the Packers. I think the Packers either win this game or they lose by double digits.
Okay, just like Steve for Steve's. I think it's one of those games.

Speaker 1 It's either going one way or... The other way.

Speaker 1 I'll take the Eagles. And this one, Nick Siriani, obviously coaching for a lot there.

Speaker 1 Washington Commanders, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, that situation with Mike Evans at the end of last week's game was awesome. That was a one-score game.

Speaker 1 Could have certainly been a pick-six, but instead, the entire team said, this guy needs to get 11 straight seasons with 1,000 yards. This guy needs to tie Jerry Rice.

Speaker 1 This guy also is going to get a $3 million bonus because this team loves him. They celebrated so hard for him.
Vibes can't be anything other than immaculate.

Speaker 1 And then for the Washington Commanders, what a year. What a turnaround.
What a time. The Buccaneers are favored by three at home.

Speaker 1 Gonna be hot there in Tampa, or is it going to be the same shit as here? What is the weather in Tampa? Is it gonna be colder? Come on, weather, man.

Speaker 1 Well, where's Cantori? Where's Jim Cantori? Probably Texas. Well, he might be.
Maybe with the fires. Yeah, it might be with the fish.
Commanders won 12 games this year.

Speaker 1 You know how many teams they beat there in the playoffs? How many?

Speaker 1 One. And that was with Kenny Pickett.

Speaker 1 Chargers also beat one team. It's playoffs.
They beat Denver twice.

Speaker 1 Does that stuff matter? I don't think so when you have Daniels.

Speaker 1 I like Washington plus the points. Wow.
That went one way and then another, didn't it? Sam Received kind of took us on a walk there.

Speaker 1 It was like we were on the F1 track outside. We're fucking zigging and zapping.
Absolutely. And we're going all over the place.
Go ahead, Tony. 65 and Sunny.
Oh, it's perfect. Okay.

Speaker 1 Oh, it sounds perfect. I thought that's what it was going to be down here.
Instead, that's up there in Tampa, and that's where the Hulkster is, right? That is where the Hulkster is. And that, uh,

Speaker 1 and uh the other guy? Jimmy Hart. Oh, yeah, you're right.

Speaker 1 Up there as well. Yeah.
I think so.

Speaker 1 D-Butch, who do you like? How do you like it?

Speaker 3 I loved what I saw last week, just like you did with Mike Evans and his team, and they got a run game. I think AQ talked about them when he was on the show yesterday.

Speaker 3 The run game, the juice that Bucky Irving has brought.

Speaker 3 I am concerned about that defensive side of the ball, and I'm going to expect that Marshawn Lattimore shows up, and he is Mike Evans' arch nemesis.

Speaker 3 So give me the commies to win this one straight away.

Speaker 1 Whoa, straight up. Commies straight up, he said, doesn't need the points.
A.J. Hawk, how do you feel? Man, Debut's got me thinking on this one.
uh

Speaker 1 oh no he's waffling

Speaker 1 because i'm i love what baker and what tampa bay does i also love what they're doing in washington give me washington okay i'll take the bucks

Speaker 1 i'll take the bucks favored by three of them just that mike evans football guy thing you know i think football lattimore have had some battles battles that's gonna be fun to watch

Speaker 1 yeah and baker knows baker's gonna be doing his whole you know big shit yeah this whole what up they beat the eagles last year so what is he doing He goes, what up? He ran a guy over.

Speaker 1 They were down in the fourth quarter. I saw the video, and they said this.
Oh, yeah, yeah. And he stepped on top of the guy on the Saints and just walked over top of him.

Speaker 1 And then there was a big fight that started. It was like a hockey player starting a fight to kind of rally the boys whenever you're down.
Baker Mayfield's a player.

Speaker 1 I don't think we appreciate and respect the competitive spirit of Baker Mayfield enough.

Speaker 1 He's just a gamer. The guy is just a game.
I assume it's in everything. I assume it's in everything that he does.
He's competitive. He's got the juice, always going to fight.
I like the Buccaneers.

Speaker 1 Not that Jayden Daniels isn't, but I like the the Buccaneers. And then, Monday night football.
Will it be played in Los Angeles or will it be played in Phoenix, Arizona? We are not 100% sure.

Speaker 1 We obviously all watch with bated breath about what's going on in Los Angeles. We can't help but say sorry to everybody that's going through that.

Speaker 1 That has to be catastrophic and horrific and scary as hell. So obviously, positive T's and P's over there for the Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 Matthew Stafford, Puka Nakua, and the boys host the Minnesota Vikings, who have been an absolute wagon, except for against the Detroit Lions.

Speaker 1 A lot of Minnesota Vikings fans said, oh no, here we go again.

Speaker 1 After losing to the Lions for the number one seed in the NFC, they are in it for being the best team in the National Football Conference in the NFC.

Speaker 1 They lose to the Lions, and Vikings fans can't help but say,

Speaker 1 three gays, we're not going to do it. I think it's because they've been punished so much.
I think it's different this year. What do you say, Stanford Steve?

Speaker 1 Was it one?

Speaker 1 Rams minus one. I'm absolutely tough.
Oh, Vikings.

Speaker 1 Vikings.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 I still think the world of McVay is a play caller. I think it's huge that Sam Darnold got that bad game out of his system.
I expect to be high scoring.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go Rams. Okay, Rams, whether it's in Phoenix or in L.A., doesn't matter.
No. Okay, Darius J.
Butler, do you? You want to pick this now?

Speaker 1 Pick it Monday, too.

Speaker 1 Just in case he gets moved. That's right.
Stanford Steve. Yeah, we got Steve's pick, though.
All right.

Speaker 1 Good pick. Thank you, Steve.
I'm not waffling. Hey, that was great work, Howdy.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Steve.

Speaker 1 Steve, you're a lot better than the

Speaker 2 other guy who shows up sometimes.

Speaker 1 How many utters did we get in there with him? Oh, man.

Speaker 1 20 points. Good amount.
25 was my guess, yeah. We've been told that they're going to be rehearsing the national anthem here in a couple of moments.

Speaker 1 We want to stick around until that so we can showcase it. Okay.

Speaker 1 Didn't we? Didn't we?

Speaker 1 Didn't we? Yeah.

Speaker 1 If it's happening, you have to show it.

Speaker 1 Who's singing? Do we know?

Speaker 1 Beyonce? Steve.

Speaker 1 I think it's sticks. There's a little plane up top.
It says we are Penn State. Obviously, they're all in on the sky and on the field.

Speaker 1 I don't even know if we're allowed to show the rehearsal.

Speaker 1 We would, though. I assume they're going to wait until we're done.

Speaker 1 We would. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We are not going to wait. We want to.
We would like to.

Speaker 1 All right. Yeah, I was just giving information that that is not how this goes.
Just know that we

Speaker 1 wanted to.

Speaker 1 And we would have stood.

Speaker 1 And we would have even done this, even though we're not in the military. And they say that you shouldn't if you're not.
Yeah, I probably wouldn't have.

Speaker 1 You wouldn't. But I'm saying, remember?

Speaker 1 I remember.

Speaker 1 I'll sing it.

Speaker 1 I'll mouth it. Remember, Strahan's family is in the military, right? Like, grew up in.

Speaker 1 Correct.

Speaker 1 Those are goofballs.

Speaker 1 These guys are fucking goofballs. So many goofballs these days.
Goof balls. Just like us.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, let's get out of here. Boys in the truck.
Great work back there, boys.

Speaker 1 Foxy, really good work in the truck.

Speaker 1 Fasso, fasso he's got a good tan doesn't he check that check that back shot out there fasso essentially that guy essentially runs the show never forget it you know you got a good

Speaker 1 thank you fossil college game day six o'clock the wonderful people that set up this set will obviously be transitioning it over to game day where we kick off the semifinals of the college football playoff boys great work great work

Speaker 1 and we're calling game night on sideline can't wait it's gonna be a good one it's gonna be a heavyweight well

Speaker 1 do you guys want to predict what happens in tomorrow's game? Because they're not gonna be here? No, we're calling it. We don't bake these games.
Bingo.

Speaker 1 Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change your life.
We are back on Monday

Speaker 1 for this show.

Speaker 1 There's gonna be so much that has happened by Monday.

Speaker 1 So much that has happened. So overreaction Monday should be absolutely absurd.
We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living. And we're gonna continue to try to bring it every day.

Speaker 1 So for tomorrow.

Speaker 1 And any other other day we're not

Speaker 1 tomorrow night, yeah.

Speaker 3 Tomorrow bring tomorrow night,

Speaker 1 still bring it. We like to bring the booms out of the building, yeah.
I didn't know they were doing Yelp reviews, I didn't me neither, they do it all,

Speaker 1 you know. We like to boom out the place,

Speaker 1 it's only one

Speaker 1 kind of a shit.

Speaker 1 They were bummed out, they were bummed out big time,

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Speaker 1 boom boom boom 80 big boom

Speaker 1 80 big booms for tonight obviously how this is gonna go you are the greatest people on earth be a friend tell their friends something nice it might change your life win this thing together team on me team on three one two three Team, goodbye.

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