PMS 2.0 1275 - OVERREACTION MONDAY, NFL Wild Card Round Recap, Vikings vs. Rams Preview, Adam Schefter, Bill Belichick, Travis Kelce, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Hello, beautiful people. I am live in San Jose.
The boys are back in the Thunderdome on this glorious wildcard. Overreaction Monday, January 13th.
Program starts now. Football! It is wonderful.
I'm live from the Shark Tank over here, A.J. Hawk, and they're obviously piecing together the arena for an electrifying Monday Night Raw That is right around the corner live on Netflix this evening at 8 p.m.
Eastern. But also tonight, the Minnesota Vikings will do battle with the Los Angeles Rams in Arizona.
Vikings as a two-and-a-half point favorite. They will be wrapping up this wonderful wildcard weekend in a huge way.
as Sam Darnold, who has reignited his entire football career with the Minnesota Vikings this year,

getting paid only $10 million in base salary, will battle the old grizzled veteran Matthew Stafford, who has had like four or five different conversations about whether or not he was going to retire. He had a broken frickin' neck.
He had won the Super Bowl. He has all the money in the world.
Staring down another concussion that could potentially pain him for the rest of his life. With a litany of children and a wife that loves him.
Does he want to continue to play? Oh, hell yeah. He does.
Stafford's a football boy. So is Cooper Cupp and Pukinikua and this Los Angeles Rams team.
After the trade deadline came together in in the most healthy fashion that they've been, that they might be the wagon that could maybe go topple the Detroit Lions, who will obviously be taking on the Washington Commanders next week in the divisional round of the playoffs. A lot happened over the weekend.
We missed on Friday. A lot happened in college ball.
That's A.J. Hawkk he's live at the thunderdome back in indianapolis indiana he's a super bowl champion with the green bay packers he's the all-time leading tackler for that particular franchise but also he is a national champion with the ohio state buckeyes who are back in the national championship aj congrats to you brother you know that pat works not done they still have four more quarters to go.
Okay, firstats to you, brother. Work's not done.
You know that, Pat. Work's not done.
They still have four more quarters to go. Okay.
First, it was four more games after the Michigan game. Now it's four more quarters that we got to get it accomplished.
I appreciate the fact that there still is a massive amount of work to be done for both of these teams if they want to become national champions. Now, obviously, we've had the incredible opportunity to be on the sideline for these guys' journey to this particular moment.
This Ohio State Buckeye team looks different. They look like they're better than everybody.
They look like they, on offense, obviously, have enough weapons to be maybe an NFL team. And I'm joking.
I don't mean that for real. And on the defensive side, they got dogs up front that disrupt the game.
Old Jack Sawyer, Copton Jack Sawyer, takes a 92-yard strip sack and scored to seal a Cotton Bowl dub for this Ohio State Buckeye team with a high IQ defense that Knowles has been running over there. JTT, Jack, and them have been dominant.
AJ, four more quarters for this team.

It's going to be an honor to watch.

But they take on former Ohio State Buckeye.

Marcus Freeman, the freshly turned 39-year-old in the Notre Dame Fighting Irish

that I have not had enough respect for all season, I might say.

I didn't think they were going to beat Penn State.

I didn't think they were going to beat Indiana.

I didn't think they were going to beat Texas A&M. I didn't think they were going to beat any team that they were on college game day to be picked about.
But Mitch Jeter, with a little kiss maybe from Jesus Christ himself, blowing that thing back inside the upright, just like what maybe happened with old Gonzalez as he banked one home for the commanders yesterday. Jesus helps Mitch Jeter and this Fighting Irish team get to the national championship.
AJ, I know you said it's four more quarters of work to do, but you got to feel good taking on this Notre Dame team if you're Ohio State. And if you're Notre Dame, you're right where you want to be.
Nobody thinks you can win yet again. Yeah, I mean, for Ohio State, obviously, we were talking on the plane ride home after these games Thursday and Friday.
What a gauntlet you have to go through. If you want to find a way to win the national championship game, you've got to go win four tough games against unbelievable opponents.
But I mean, this is what this is like you said, this is why you lift all them weights. This is why you do all that stuff you don't want to do to get into this position.
And man, Ohio State and Notre Dame, I think this matchup is beautiful. It's like there's so many different people that have ties to this game, to both these great universities, and I can't wait to be there, man.
It's going to be amazing. Nine-year NFL vet is joining you over there in the Thunderdome.
He's been on the sideline alongside us. What a massively magical couple moments that we've got to have.
Darius J. Butler, ladies and gentlemen.
Hey, Dee Bunch. Hey,Bush.
D-Bush, they're testing the spotlights and such for the big show tonight. So if you see me turning to one of these numbers, that's because there's like a spaceship-type light going right, a beam going right into my face tonight is going to be electrifying.
But to AJ's point there, you've got to win four straight big games. Now, the bye week was supposed to be something special.
All the teams that got byes, they lost immediately upon it. But that's four straight weeks your team has to show up.
Four straight weeks you got to beat a very quality opponent. Four straight weeks you got to play your best game.
But Ohio State didn't even do that. They didn't even come close to playing their best game and they still beat Texas by two scores.
Do you think Ohio State feels good about this whole thing or whose position would you rather be in d but oh i mean whose position i'd rather be in it's no pressure on notre dame no pressure at all with marcus freeman and that squad but i'd rather be on the ohio state sideline with that talent with those coaches you saw how the game was back and forth with texas and it was i feel like uh probably three or four plays especially this this screen right here right before half this was huge obviously in momentum and getting that seven point lead back and then Captain Jack at the end of the game with that strip sack coming off the edge scooping and scoring and taking it to the crib so they have those five star players everywhere and they're kind of hitting their peak they hit their peak throughout this playoff uh you talked about all those different things you need clicking and going the right way for you. They've also been healthy, you know, in a lot of the main positions.
JTT got banged up a little bit. He was able to come back.
Cody Simon got banged up. He was able to come back.
Jeremiah Smith is still healthy. All their playmakers, their big-time playmakers are still healthy.
So, yeah, I would definitely rather be on that Buckeye sideline right now. But, look, Fighting Irish, they're there for a reason.
And now, you know, nobody's giving them a chance up to this point. And I know that's going to be the message going into this game.
Two great games for the college football playoff semifinals, both in the Orange Bowl and down there at the Cotton Bowl. But I do fear that the wild card weekend was very similar the first couple rounds of the college football playoff.
One half of the hammer. Done ap tone i saw you put a tweet out there brother it said uh oh isn't that interesting sometimes even if you have the perfect system to find out who should make it into the tournament or into the playoffs there's going to be blowouts because maybe there is just two different levels of teams each year not saying every team team is going to remain at the same level that it's at each year, but each year it seems like there is a little bit of a separator, which is why we can deem champions.
Is that what you were pointing out? Yeah, it was. Whether it's a committee or we are just playing games, we're going based off of record, and that's what gets you in the playoffs.
There are levels to this shit, Pat. The first round of CFP, 19 points per game was the winning margin through the first three games after I put that tweet out yesterday of Super Wild Card Weekend.
The winning margin there was also 19 points per game. It finished at 14.6 points per game for the Super Wild Card Weekend thanks to the game last night that was finally a close one between the Commanders and Bucks.
But, no, there are definitely levels to this shit. You have to be good to really good to get in the playoffs.
But there are also the great teams in the playoffs that show up and just trounce people. Yeah, and it feels like a lot of people are kind of bored with Super Wild Card Weekend.
They said maybe that's why the NFL wanted to pull the word super from it. Maybe they knew that it was about to be a dud for most of those games.
Now, last night obviously goes into a thriller, meeting two big-time field goals late in that game to make it something special, and congrats to the commanders moving over there in the NFC side. We'll talk about here in a matter of moments, especially because what's happening tonight with Adam Schefter, but let's stay on the AFC side.
Let's go to the talks at the table at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmitt. Con man, I know you remember the glory days, the good old days when the New England Patriots were the topic of discussion when it comes to the AFC side of the playoffs.
But now that we look ahead to the divisional round, same four teams from the AFC are being represented. And obviously the Texans over the Chargers was a surprise by a lot of us because how the Texans ended the season.
They beat the hell out of the Titans. But what the Texans

defense just did to Herbert, four

interceptions for Justin Herbert

who we have fallen in love with and

we are a massive fan of. And I think

Harbaugh's about a year or two out, you know, putting that

culture in. Great head start in

year one over there. But Texans get a

massive win. Ravens look awesome.

Buffalo Bills look awesome.

Conman, my question is, the Chiefs

are coming off a bye. We'll be talking to Travis Kelsey.

I think.

Let's hope.

I think. The last couple times we've said this

it ended up not working out because of a

scheduling situation, but in the next hour

we'll be talking to Travis Kelsey, and I know

older folks in the NFL,

grown-ass men,

guys that have been around a little bit. The knees are worn down a little bit this late in the season, the ankles.
The bye weeks killed the teams in the college football playoff. Are we worried about the Chiefs having a bye week there? Do we feel like the Final Four are going to be playing their absolute best ball this upcoming weekend? Yeah, I think best ball for sure.
I think with the NFL, especially with the Chiefs who have done this song and dance with the bye and having that time off, getting kind of fresh almost. Andy Reid goes back into his bag, bruh, and maybe draws up a few different plays, especially after watching that Chargers-Texans game.
I mean, the Texans, they showed it earlier today. Last time they played the Chiefs in the divisional round, it was 24-0 Texans.

And then they lost 51-31 to the Chiefs. So it's one of those things too where Chiefs might start a little slow.
Who knows? Probably a little different than the Lions on the other side where the Lions have that bye and they got so many dudes banged up. But with the Ravens-Bills game, I think we should do a kind of pink slips almost where whoever wins gets the MVP.

I think this is probably the game

of the weekend at the current

moment. I think we should do a kind of pink slips almost where whoever wins gets the MVP.
I think this is probably the game of the weekend at the current moment, even after tonight's game. I think it still will be.
I think between these two is what we've all kind of been waiting to see. And also I saw a theory on X where there's the whole 12-year theory with the Ravens.
You know, every years, they win a Super Bowl, 2000, 2012, and now 2024.

There is also kind of an extension to that theory where the Ravens,

the year before they won the Super Bowl, lose in heartbreaking fashion

after being the one seed, which happened last year with the Chiefs.

The Ravens were the one seed.

Chiefs come to town.

They lose in heartbreaking fashion.

Ladarius Sneed punch out Zay Flowers right on the goal line. Then, in the year after that would happen, the Ravens have to go on the road and win two games to then go on and win the Super Bowl.
So the stars might be aligning for the Ravens, but I do believe that this should be an MVP game. If Josh Allen wins, he can get the trophy at midfield right after.
And if the Ravens win, Lamar can get the trophy at midfield right after and in front of all of Buffalo. I assume they'll be able to get that done.
I assume the NFL will be able to kind of slide the MVP determiner into this particular game as opposed to the normal vote. Because we all saw the vote that came out.
Lamar Jackson, first team all-pro quarterback, I think for like the last, what, 100 years or something like that

since a running back has won it or any other

position has won it, any

quarterback that has been the first team

all-pro or AP quarterback

has also won the MVP.

Is that the right stat that I was reading, Tone?

Yeah, you are correct. For the last billion years, yes.

Yeah, so it feels like

Lamar Jackson has won that MVP.

Congrats to him.

When do we find out who Tone voted for? That's a good question. Muted.
Oh, I think Pat got muted over there, Pat. I don't know if you can hear yourself or not.
I believe you got muted. Oh, we can't hear you.
Oh, yeah, we cannot hear you. We cannot hear you.
What if we were messing with him? What if we were doing what we do to guess something? That'd be screwed up. It would be.
We are not doing that, obviously. We cannot hear you.
It's another layer to that Baltimore thing. There you are.
You're back. Boom.
You're back there. We are back.
That is great news. Great news to be back.
So congrats to Lamar and obviously what he was able to do on Saturday. That ball to Bateman, that touchdown we just showed.
What a perk. The timing, the precision.
Is that a third the precision, the amount of sauce that you needed to have on that. And then obviously, any time they're just handing the ball off to Derrick Henry and just continuing to run the rock, run the rock, run the rock.
Like, Lamar doesn't have to throw as much. And then when he had to step up and make a throw, he did.
And it was like, not just he did, there were tough throws, perfect throws. He was running all over the place.
I think they had TJ Watt crashing on running back for every single RPO as opposed to maybe what they had done in the past. I don't remember Lamar having that much free access all the time on an RPO, but that was fun to watch.
It was old school Lamar. So Lamar showcased everything that he is and everything that he has become as a quarterback.
Obviously, the conversation with Deion Sanders after he gets draft number 32 to the Baltimore Ravens was one that was awesome. Like, this dude's driven.
They're going to get all I got. They're going to get a Super Bowl out of me.
It was exactly what Lamar Jackson said every single day. He comes into the NFL behind Joe Flacco then he takes over.
The Baltimore Ravens invest in the Lamar Jackson style. What was Lamar Jackson style? Well, he's going to run a lot because when he has the ball in his hands, he's different.
We all remember the highlights, the jumping spin moves on people in the middle of nowhere. I think it was against Cincinnati.
Then he's got some down the sideline. Then he's pulling away against people.
And then every single year he went to work in the offseason, not only shaking and baking jet skis on beaches, but also throwing the ball all over the yard. What his arm has become in the moments that they've become him is special.
I mean, he's making the right decisions. His team is loaded.
Mark Andrews, who is a friend of the program, is a monster. Likely is an absolute beast.
Derrick Henry goes bananas. They got a team in Baltimore.
And then when they take on this Buffalo Bills squad, get off me there, likely said, by the way. Get off of me.
Derrick Henry, to his former teammate, did he play with Minka in Alabama? I believe so. I think so, yeah.
Boy, that was first drive, wasn't it? That was first drive. Tough.
He went hand to throat to him. I mean, that was – the Baltimores just I Mean it pummeled the Pittsburgh Steelers.
They just they just met Pittsburgh

on a street

Maybe down here in the south side and just punched them right in the mouth

And then when the Steelers stood back up, they punched him in the mouth again

Then when they stood back up, they punched him in the mouth again

They just physically beat the shit out of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Tone Diggs, Minka Fitzpatrick obviously getting tossed there by Derrick Henry.
I saw Bill Cower say, it wasn't that they lost. It was how they lost, is what Bill Cower said.
And then I saw Billy Bones and his reactions on the internet. And I think they echo a lot of Pittsburgh.
Was it because it was Baltimore that just manhandled you that was the problem? Or is it that it was any team that just manhandled you guys in the playoffs and you lose yet again in the postseason that is drawing this massive reaction of they're embarrassed by this Pittsburgh Steeler team? They want change with this Pittsburgh Steeler team? And obviously, we keep doing the Tomlin thing. This ain't working for where we want to go.
No, it was embarrassing is a light word. I don't know if embarrassing is strong enough.
And you said everything perfectly, except for the only thing I'll disagree with you about is you said they kept getting back up. Nope.
The first time they got knocked down, they never get back up. No, they fought.
What? They fought. No, it didn't seem to be much fight, especially on the defensive side.
There's no fight. Just look at the effort at some of the players here.
That put me over the edge, that play right there. Second and 20.
That's not the offense. That's not the Pittsburgh Steelers offense there.
That's the defense. Cam Hayward just got, I mean.
No, that is the highest. Everyone's jogging.
No one's coming in hard. We talk about rallying to tackle.
Cam Hayward. Cam fights.
Cam's had a great year. But, no, it was the.
We love Cam. We love Cam.
But I'm just saying, that whole play, you go from start to finish. Oh, yeah, all of them.
I think every single player potentially has a moment where it's like, that's regret. I mean, Cam doesn't deserve that there.
But, yeah, normally you'd see this from, like, an offense, not wanting to jump on a fumble or something. We're kind of staying around, let it happen.
And that's not what the Baltimore Ravens do. Baltimore Ravens, when a pommel there, I get a little injury maybe.

Hey, let's give an extra little shot here.

Let's make sure they feel us, you know?

Because in the end, this is a physical game.

This is a violent game.

We're going to want to, you know,

make them feel us as opposed to just sit around

and watch in a playoff game.

Tony, you're right.

I did not love any part about it.

What do you think happens?

What do you think happens?

Hey, they're not going to get rid of Mike Tomlin. What? No way.
Trading him? They're not going to get rid of Mike Tomlin. Coach T, 100% will be back.
Do you want him back? Well, they just gave him an extension. I believe it's a three-year extension.
And it's about 50. Do Steelers fans want him back, Tone? We know he got an extension, but there's all this talk of them possibly trading him, which I don't think will happen.
I would say, based on the internet, everything that I've seen, everything I talk to back home,

it's about 95% would like to see major changes at that position.

Wow.

It's not going to happen.

There may be changes at the coordinator position or some offensive line coach, stuff like that.

But no, there is not going to be a change.

So I'll see you boys here at the same time, same place next year.

We'll have the same conversation. It'll be great.
Okay, so we'll talk about who's going to end up with the Pittsburgh Steelers here in a matter of moments. But the point that I was getting to is the Ravens are playing their best ball, physically dominating people.
And Buffalo, I mean, they just – they were down 7-0. Oh, no.
Oh, no. Uh-oh.
Is this going to be a Josh Allen again? Is this going to be a heartbreaker for Bills Mafia? Is this awful days up here in western New York? Then they rattle off 31 straight. 31-7.
The Buffalo Bills end up winning this particular game. And we watch Bo Nix drop some in a bucket.
We watch them run around a little bit. We even watch them get some stops on Josh Allen whenever there's a little bit of a joust going on, a little bit of a spar going on.
But inevitably, the Bills wagon would get rolling, and that wagon revolves around Josh Allen. Now, James Cook is a hell of a back that certainly is an asset for everything they got cooking up there.
And Shakir can do it all. And Josh and Deion Dawkins in that offensive line can literally just control an entire game if they want to.
He's big. He's strong.
He's fast. He's got an absolute cannon.
I don't know how he kept his foot up there. That was so crazy.
And big booms. We're doing booms all over the place.
I don't know if you've seen those booms. Ty Johnson doing the booms.
I respect it. A lot of people here that did not necessarily love this call.
They said his foot clearly touches out of bounds. And we're just going to say that he secures the catch within, what, an eighth of a second of touching it? Gene Steratore came out and said, I am saying that.
And then he doubled down and he tweeted it. So I will go off of what Gene Steratore said.
But if they didn't score here, we assume they would have scored in another fashion. It's like this Buffalo Bills team is playing their best ball as well.
A.J., best ball as well aj bills ravens i mean this is dream matchup this year especially with how the storyline has gone for the last two months about the mvp both playing their best football yeah they're both playing the best football i think it was it was good for the bills to get down seven nothing obviously it's not like a huge hole to dig yourself out of but i think it's good you're at home all of a All of a sudden, people might freak out a little bit. This team shows that, hey, we can handle it.
We'll find a way, like you said, to get 31 unanswered points, but Josh Allen's just different. He seems like he is super-duper confident, and to think of Josh Allen and Lamar playing this early in the playoffs almost feels like, hey, we need this one game later.
Let's go AFC Championship. I would love to see that to get to the Super Bowl.
But the fact that these two studs are going to face off here shortly, I'm juiced. I can't wait.
I don't know who's going to win. I know we'll make picks eventually later.
But this game right here, this is the one you've got to circle, I think, because this is a special one that we might get to see. Very special.
D. Butch, whenever you think about these two teams, which defense is playing better right now? Obviously, the Buffalo Beals were able to hold the Broncos to just seven points, and Pittsburgh Steelers especially had some long, explosive plays against the Baltimore Ravens.
George Pickens had a few. Russ was able to drop a little, maybe bring Russ back, by the way.
Oh, yeah. Pretty well, though.
Russ honestly played pretty well. He didn't play bad.
He didn't play bad. I agree.
Maybe bring Russ back. Give him like 45 a year or something.
Tone. Bring him back.
Three-year, 120. Yeah, I think so.
Maybe even 60 million one year. Go all in.
But nonetheless, how do you feel about the defenses there? How do you feel about defenses, D-Buck? Both defenses are playing well. Milano being back and being healthy for Buffalo Bills is big time.
Vaughn is healthy as well. But that rave is defense man, when they're clicking, when they're humming, when they're applying pressure, they're great against the run.
They have big-time playmakers on the back end as well. That edge I got to give to the Baltimore side on that defensive side of the ball.
But both of these quarterbacks obviously playing phenomenal. That Steve Young comment kind of sticks in my head when I look at what Lamar has been able to do this year.
Him saying, like, look, we'll never get the best of Lamar until he's put in a situation where he's in a sophisticated passing game and he has to do a rep in and rep out. Obviously, it starts with that run game and being physical, but eight can sit back in that pocket and make big-time throws, and that makes a huge difference when you're going up against the Baltimore Ravens because the game plan for so many years was, hey, make him beat you from the pocket, make him beat you with his arm.
And now he can do that. And then having Derrick Henry and the threat of Lamar running as well, you saw Derrick Henry, a wildcat with Lamar coming around, you know, being a wide receiver, taking the eyes of linebackers like they are so, so tough with what they're doing.
So Todd Mocken and what he's doing with Baltimore and that offense, then what Joe Brady is able to do with the offense in Buffalo as well with Josh Allen, where he doesn't have to be Superman every down. He can hand it off because they really impose their will on the Broncos running the football and then Josh had to be special when he had to be.
But yeah, this is going to be an absolute great, great matchup with two great ball clubs. Joe Brady and Monken are both in their bags, bruh.
I think that is very evident. That's why they have made it to the divisional round.
Now, congrats to the Commanders getting a massive win. Congrats to the Texans getting a huge win.
We cannot wait to watch this evening as the Vikings and Rams play in Arizona. Joining us now is a man who might have more information on everything.
Senior NFL insider for ESPN, Michigan man. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter.
Gentlemen, what's going on? Schefter, happy wildcard overreaction Monday to you, brother, as we tighten you down a little bit. We squeeze you in.
You're like a panini there. You know, you start as a sandwich, and then a panini kind of flattens the bread.

It was a Schefter sandwich.

Okay, we had a little thin, white bread.

I wouldn't say it was Texas toast at all.

It was small.

And that thing, the bread, boom.

Now we found you right in the middle there.

Their sandwich is now double dipped.

How you doing, Schefter?

Good to see you.

First things first.

I know it's been a few days, and we're kind of assholes bringing this up,

but we would be assholes if we didn't bring it up. Much love to you and your family for the passing of Benny.
We apologize. We're all dog people on this particular show.
We understand very much what you went through there, losing your dog. Know that Benny had an incredible life and you were a phenomenal owner to Benny, okay? Please from all of us.
Thank you, buddy. I appreciate that.
it was a rough week. Now, let's get into the NFL, okay? Let's get into the distraction from those types of things.
Looking ahead to this evening, anything we need to think about before we pick tonight's game? Vikings, Rams in Arizona. We heard the contingency plans a couple weeks ago, like a week and a half ago.
This game could be played in Arizona if the air quality index is not proper. It did get moved there.
It has since sold out. Can you tell us about the behind the scenes on how that came together? Well, look, I think everybody recognized the tragedy unfolding in California and Los Angeles and people losing homes, the devastation everywhere.
It's hard to imagine that you'd even contemplate playing a football game there at that time. And they made the decision officially Thursday, early evening on the East Coast, late afternoon on the West Coast to move the game to Arizona.
I don't recall the league ever moving a playoff game in the postseason due to a natural disaster. I think this is unprecedented as best as I can tell.
And so the Rams obviously 24 hours later had over 400 people on buses and planes to Arizona. Their organization uprooted there.
and they've spent the last few days here and the way it's been described to me for them is it's been like a super bowl week because you're in another city you're getting ready it's a strange feeling but really i think the rams are a microcosm of that city and a representation to see everybody, many people in Los Angeles are going through it. The Rams themselves are going through it.
There are people in the organization that lost homes. And obviously this is a distraction, this trip, this game.
And then they'll go back to the reality of it all in Los Angeles. And you just hope that everybody there is okay.
Obviously, the images, the pictures, everything that's going on there is unimaginable. And so they get to play a football game tonight and not have to think as much about it for a three-hour window before they get back to reality.
Yeah, and obviously our positive thoughts and prayers, we said it last week, and we know it's not not enough but we are watching along with everything you're going through over there in california down south of where i am right now so so sorry uh massive shout out to the cardinals the cardinals equipment managers uh everybody in that particular building for making the magic happen in our source says inside the rams have said obviously it's been a very difficult difficult week for our families out here arizona has been a net positive an environment for players staff and families to get away bond and focus on football and not fires and or evacuations which was all they could think about i think even pets we're about, made the trip. I think everybody's trying to make this as conducive as possible to try to make sure this game is as fair and on a level playing field as possible.
We cannot wait to watch. And thank you to football for being a great distraction this weekend.
Go ahead, AJ. Shefty, what's the latest with Mike McCarthy and his whole situation with Dallas? I know just as the show started, there's reports that Mike McCarthy is no longer going to be back in Dallas.
Can you tell us what the latest is? Yeah, the two sides officially are parting ways. They met over the course of the last week and basically had discussions about football.
No business discussions. They never got to that.
There were no contract discussions. And the longer it it went on the more apparent it became that clearly with mike mccarthy's contract set to expire him eligible to talk to teams at midnight on tuesday there was no movement towards a new deal clearly there was a direction in which dallas wasn't going there and so uh short the Cowboy official says the two sides are parting ways.
Mike McCarthy is going to become a coaching free agent. The Bears and Saints are expected to have interest in him and to talk to him.
The Cowboys are now going to be in the market for a new head coach. So obviously a seismic shift in the NFL landscape.
That, by the way, Pat, would be the seventh team. What did we talk about all season long? You feel real good about it, obviously.
Obviously you said these guys all have families and everything, so it's sad and devastating, but it's going to be seven. Quarterback spots are going to be up in seven, probably coaching positions that are going to be open.
Okay, so Mike McCarthy is now headed into not the firings, but not getting another contract with the Dallas Cowboys. If we've kind of been hanging in limbo, the Patriots have already given out their head coaching job to Mike Frable, which I know Connor will want to ask you about here in a moment.
But does Mike McCarthy say to Jerry Jones, hey, go fuck yourself for making me wait through an entire hiring cycle already, seemingly, for coaches that have already had interviews and chit-chats and everything like that with Mike McCarthy. If he wants to coach again, would have been a part of, we assume, in some of those places, or is this standard operating procedure and Mike McCarthy understands the business? I think Mike McCarthy understands the business.
He's going to get to Chicago a few days later than expected. It's not like the Bears have hired somebody.
Ideally, you know, you would have liked to have talked to him. What if they had, though? What if they had, though? What if Patriots already hired their coach? Chicago already hired their coach? The Jets, we know, they interviewed 150 people.
Shout out to the 33rd team putting that list together. Hey, this person's been around football before.
Potentially could, coach. You should interview.
Let's do 70 interviews. What if they hire somebody already? Is this common, how this whole thing worked out? How there was an exclusive negotiating window for a week after his contract already ended? Is this normal? And maybe we just never see it because coaches never make it to the finality of their contracts?

It's a little unusual.

A little unusual.

You haven't seen too many situations like that.

I don't know if it's ever occurred before.

Certainly not in recent memory.

It is unique.

And this is kind of the way that it's worked out.

I don't think it's going to hurt either side. And know the whole thing with Dallas all along was this the way I was thinking it okay clearly they're not moving forward with a deal for Mike McCarthy so so what are they doing it wasn't ever going to get to the point in my mind where all of a sudden Tuesday was going to come and all of a sudden Jerry Jones is going to come, and all of a sudden, Jerry Jones is going to say, okay, we're not doing a deal with Mike McCarthy.
What am I doing? Like, again, my question. Yeah, he missed Vrabes.
He missed out on Vrabes, which could have been a possible perfect coach for them down there. He's already got it.
It seems like more Jerry Jones stuff, which is like, I'm going to do it my way, okay? And I'm going to do this how I do it and how I want to do it. And it's like, well, Jer, it might have worked back in the day.
Now things are moving. Raves may be perfect Dallas Cowboys.
I mean, I don't know if that's the way they want to go. But you're right, Con Man, and Conor's going to ask about that.
But it's like, thought it from big mike mccarthy yinzer mike mccarthy standpoint like he basically held me in purgatory for a week here when other jobs have already been given out that they want to coach like me at that place culture builder you know tough guy from pittsburgh you know that whole thing already a job's already been taken i didn't even think about it from the cowboys perspective like you don't even get a chance talk to frames frames already gone because you didn't even wild cowboys are so different shefty cowboys always operate so well again i i i think i think i think mike vrabel having his history with the organization that he did i think probably that appealed to him being in new england even more so than dallas and i think probably people in dallas know that although i think dallas might have been an option for him if he were a coaching free agent still out there but he's not so he's a patriot head coach and there's one fewer option one fewer coach for the dallas cowboys to think about and so so now we could start wondering about all the names who could be in line could be the next head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. Who? Who? Who? Who? Who's the top of their wish list? You know what? I do not know that factually.
I really don't because... They're thinking about trading for Mike Tomlin.
Wow. I don't see the Steelers trading Mike Tomlin.
I just don't see it. I don't see it now again Things can always change but I don't see them being interested in trading my Tomlin No matter who calls them and who checks in to see whether or not he's available Okay, well that's your Jerry Jones doing hiring here right now.
steven or anybody well it's jerry's organization and obviously uh steven assists him and uh we'll see what they decide to do but this is going to be a fascinating hire because now also by the way you missed out on the window to talk to some of these coaches like ben johnson if you want to talk to them you can't do that now i'm so confused by it all, but hey, that's Cowboys, isn't it? The thing about Cowboys is the way they're running is because they want to work with their family. When they're laying down on their deathbed, they're not wishing to see a couple more sons come up.
They're thinking I did it the right way with my family. You should be listening to this too over here, Slappy.
I'll see you guys later. Jerry Jones needs to get into acting full-time and let his family maybe run his team.
That's my personal opinion. Let's go to Boston Conner because we just chatted all around it here.
Yeah, Chef D, let's be real here. Vrabel is going to New England no matter what.
And guess what? The Patriots won the coaching cycle once again. This is a perfect hire.
We're bringing cigs. We're bringing dips.
We're bringing beers all the way back in New England. What are the expectations for his staff? Seen a lot of Josh McDaniels is going to come with him.
Have also seen some other rumblings of different guys. Tommy Reese because the connection in Cleveland as well because Vrabel was there last year and so was he.
Is that probably going to happen with McDaniels or is maybe Big Mike going to say, hey, I want in on that. I'm going to go up to New England and maybe call plays for a year and not be doing the head coaching shit after how the Cowboys went this last year? I think Josh McDaniels is an obvious candidate and I would say potentially the leading candidate for that job.
If for no other reason, he's got great success as an offensive coordinator. He's been with that organization.
He knows Mike Vrabel. He lives in Foxborough.
The Raiders still own three more years of money. It's so logical, but there is a process that you have to go through before you can hire a coordinator.
But look, Josh McDaniels is as obvious a choice for Mike Vrabel's offensive coordinator as Vrabel was for the Patriots head coach so we'll see how that turns out in the end but would it be a surprise if Josh McDaniels is the offensive coordinator there no that would not be a surprise in the end once they go through the process putting the band back together potentially up there in New England. I know Boston Conner and all the rest of the Revolution region are going to be excited, especially with Drake May being as great seemingly as he looked his rookie year.
Congrats to the Braves. Proud of you, bud.
Hell yeah, Braves. After you're back in the NFL as a head coach.
And it's going to be good to see him have to put a half a tin in his mouth to go coach the Patriots up there in Foxborough. Going to bring back the mystique.
He needs to do the half spat right there. He wouldn't do the full spat because of a shoe deal.
This guy knows business, has known business for a long time. Love everything he's about.
Offensive player, defensive player, head coach, position coach. Vrabe's been there, done that.
As an Ohio guy, done good. Can't wait to see what the Patriots become yet again.

And, you know, everybody in Indianapolis and Pittsburgh,

no flies in, Vrabe says there.

Everybody in Indianapolis and Pittsburgh and Baltimore

and the cities that had rivalries against the New England Patriots.

I'm not saying the Patriots felt like they were rivalries the other directions,

all these cities, but all these cities that hated the New England Patriots

for all those years are like, great, now they're back. I think that's just the common belief, is that Braves is going to lead them right back to the promised land, AJ.
Oh, no question. I wonder how Shefty thinks with this whole Mike McCarthy situation, though, Shefty, I want to get back to it real quickly.
Do you think he's the leading candidate for that Bears job? I think Mike McCarthy is going to be a strong candidate in Chicago and New Orleans both and that has implications on other teams as well because to me Aaron Glenn and Ben Johnson are getting jobs in this particular cycle both of them are going to be head coaches if that's what they ultimately decide to do in the end and Aaron Glenn is in play in a number of places, but most

notably, New Orleans and the Jets.

So if all of a sudden

the Saints are in on Mike McCarthy

and if he gets that job,

then Aaron Glenn and the Jets

would become a logical match

down the line.

Ben Johnson's going to get a job here,

whether that's in Jacksonville

or Chicago or the Raiders, but he's going to get a job here, whether that's in Jacksonville or Chicago or the Raiders. But he's going to get a job, too.
So we'll see how that one works out. Mike McCarthy now gets put into this mix and he'll be in play in Chicago and New Orleans.
So, again, you're going through all this and waiting to see how it turns out. But that's how some of this is shaping up at this point.

But again, back to the Cowboys.

I said to you, Aaron Glenn, Ben Johnson, they're getting jobs.

If the Dallas Cowboys wanted to talk to them right now,

they cannot talk to them until their season is over.

They can't.

You can't.

You missed the window.

They missed the window. AJ, I'm happy you didn't want to give Vrabel a thought at all there during that conversation.
I'm happy we also went back. Happy you went back and clarified some things on the Big Mike McCarthy job search because, boy, if you wouldn't have said that and then Schefter wouldn't have hammered home the Saints opportunity, can you think about Big Mike down there on Bourbon Street? I was...
He was on staff before, so he'd be coming back like he was there before. Oh, my God.
What are those cakes down there that they eat? What are those French... The...
Beignets. Beignets.
Yep. Oh, my.
Big Mike McCarthy in New Orleans would be awesome. I just thought of that.
Now, he'd be so hot. He would be so hot.
He'd be Brian Kelly's face all the time as he ends her down in Louisiana. But we're excited to see where Mike McCarthy ends up at.
Let's go back to some player stuff. D-Botch has a question for you.
Let's go to Baltimore. Obviously, a big divisional matchup coming up with the Buffalo Bills.

Their Pro Bowl wide receiver

Zay Flowers has been dealing with an injury

since their last game. Any update

on him if he'll be able to come out this week

or the following week if they're able to win?

I think essentially

he's going to have

a chance to get back for this game.

I know the Ravens felt like

if they could win this past week

that Zay Flowers would have a chance

I'll see you next time. he's gonna have a chance to get back for this game I know the Ravens felt like if they could win this past week that Zay Flowers would have a chance to be back for the divisional club game now it's a tough injury it's a knee no guarantees let's see how the week goes but on Monday leading up to that huge matchup Sunday night 630 I would say that there's a chance that Zay Flowers is going to be back in that game.
Okay. They don't need it, seemingly.
I mean, if they were to get more weapon, this Baltimore Ravens team, fun to watch. That Bills-Ravens game is obviously going to be hyped up immensely.
Tone has a question for you, Shefty. Yeah, I do, Shefty.
Another game this weekend between the Commanders and Lions. Coincidentally, Ben Johnson is the OC for the Lions.
Tom Brady's calling that game. Tom Brady is reportedly trying to bring Ben Johnson to the Raiders.
Is this a trial for Ben Johnson with Tom Brady in the booth? How's this all working out? Tampering. Well what I'd say to that Number one is I think that

Tom Brady is professional enough that he's not going to look to violate or scrutiny rules and from ben johnson he doesn't he doesn't have to do ben johnson doesn't have to do anything to impress tom brady any more than he already has tom brady is broadcasting ben john Johnson's game. That's the way it kind of goes right now.
We could come up with these scenarios, not a lot to have contact. And by the way, if the NFL hands out a memo, maybe it will, saying that Tom Brady and Ben Johnson are not a lot to talk, I could tell you this.
I don't think Tom Brady really cares. He doesn't ben johnson to speak to him to get ready for this broadcast on sunday the idea of that is absurd um but again people get very sensitive and touchy and so if there are rules that nobody wants to violate it fine look i think we're all adult enough to know that ben johnson is a primary head coaching candidate in multiple places, including Las Vegas.

I don't believe that Tom Brady needs to recruit Ben Johnson any harder.

And he's going to woo him on his trip to Detroit this weekend while nobody

else is allowed to talk to him.

And Ben Johnson is getting ready for his most important game of the season.

I, again, call me naive, call me silly, call me ridiculous. I think that everybody involved is professional enough to do this the right way.
Alright, well, you're ridiculous. No, you just told me to call you that.
Silly. Ridiculous.
I'm envisioning it now. I'm envisioning it now.
Cliff Kingsbury makes a bad decision. Third quarter-ish.
Tom Brady goes, and that's why Cliff Kingsbury, who's been a head coach before, is nothing in comparison to Benjamin Johnson. This Ben Johnson guy just serenades him over the air in front of 30 million people, 40 million people, whatever the number is, that's going to be watching that particular game.
And then you start to wonder yourself. Ben Johnson's family starts texting him saying, hey, you know, Tom Brady was complimenting you.
His mom said, hey, it was nice to be the greatest of all time, say what he said about you. And then they'll cut to the thing.
And maybe Tom Brady's wearing a Ben Johnson for president pin. Maybe he's even wearing one of those.
And they're like, you know what? Tom Brady really likes you. He seems like he has your back.
He understands you. He starts talking about Ben Johnson, the man,

and the family, and now you've got agents and family.

There's a chance Tom Brady could sway this thing

in their favor, even though Ben Johnson is picking

and choosing which particular job he wants there.

I hadn't even thought of it until Tom just brought it up.

Wow.

It's a real conundrum the NFL is in, Schefter.

It's a real conundrum.

It's so funny. Yeah, it is.
Isn't't it ridiculous there's so much ridiculous stuff that could happen i feel like tom brady has done a uh phenomenal job getting better each week and then by the way i i think tom hears those comments and sees those comments and is laughing and is like are you serious are you having serious that's that's tom's reacting okay let me speak for him there let me speak for him there if you don't mind okay good well i'm happy that the greatest of all time is on the call but they have been calling for conflicts of interest basically all year it's seemingly going off without a hitch he's very hands-on in this hiring process they've been reporting that a lot and then i saw somebody say that some gms and coaches might not like that it's like well who gives a fuck if you don't like what the greatest of all time thinks like what are we talking about is that real shefter there's some people saying they don't like that tom brett who is that anything sweet was that mike pccarthy yeah uh that's well people are very sensitive no people are just very sensitive about that you know rules and wanting things done a certain way and uh so so tom will listen rules. He'll abide by the rules.
I forget that. You missed it.
You were reading a text. I was asking you.
There were some coaches, allegedly, in GMs that said, allegedly, I forget who reported it. It might have been you.
It might have been another insider that is not at your level, obviously, Chef. Do we talk about that? Somebody said that some coaches and GMs don't necessarily like how hands-on Tom Brady has been.

Is that true?

Is that real?

Hands-on.

I don't think he's been very hands-on at all so far.

Not in the interview process?

Tom Brady's not involved in the interview process?

He is involved, but it just got underway.

How can we even say that he's too hands-on?

And by the way, isn't that why you brought in tom brady to be involved like i don't understand like that's why you included him in your ownership group and made him a part of the process is to have him involved and when we're getting underway with an initial wave of it he's already too involved like what did he do in virtual interviews that he's too involved? Got it. So he is, though, very involved in the hiring process.
Do we all agree? He is. Well, very.
He is involved. He owns a piece of the team.
He's Tom Brady. He's doing work the way he would.
I don't know. Who involved? Very involved.
He's involved. He's Tom Brady.
Okay. He's involved.
Sounds like a lot. You're too close to him, Jeff.
You know, you're too much guys. Two pals.
Well, it sounds like Tom Brady, whenever he gets, when Tom Brady gets involved in something, he's pretty like not all in. It does feel like that, doesn't it? I mean, I think he hasn't had sugar in like 15 years or something like that if he's in there running that interview though and being an actual owner i'd be excited to hear how he questions people what he's trying to learn about people who he thinks is going to be the next head coach like i'm very intrigued if tom brady's making this this decision on who he thinks would be the best head coach like legitimatelyitimately, I'm kind of pumped to find that out.

Because does he want a good play caller, culture setter?

Is Big Mike McCarthy in play for the Raiders?

Oh, yeah.

What about that?

Look, it just happened.

I hadn't heard his name there until now,

but it's certainly possible it could be.

He's like, we need a culture guy in here,

and he brings in Big Mike.

And we can find a play caller anywhere. How tom views it i'm very like very intrigued to see how it works out i think there are certain guys that absolutely have tom's respect and curiosity and look he's had an unbelievable opportunity this year to go around each week and meet with people like he gets to observe himself who's impressive and who's not if you're in a different building and you're two different organizations every week over the course of 18 weeks that's 36 different weeks that fox has paid you to get to know people around the league and to see who has and hasn't impressed you just by doing his job himself he's been able to glean all kinds of insights and information into who he believes are the best coaching candidates out there.
And now when they're putting together the list, when they're going through the candidates, he can apply everything that he's seen from this year. I don't know, has Fox done, has Tom done, and I don't know the answer to this, a Lions game yet so far this year? I'm sure.
I believe they did Lions-Packers. Yeah.
Did they do Lions-Cowboys? I don't know about that. I'd assume at 425 game of the week, probably.
Yeah, Cowboys 425 on Fox. We'd assume at some point it was there.
I think they did. Is Tom going to be doing both? Going forward forward he's going to beat his hands on uh in vegas is he going to stay in the booth with fox uh yeah that that's his call i have no idea how he's going to work it but i i expect him to be involved as the raiders owner yes as a limited owner sounds like he's kind of cheating a little bit well i mean this is all the conflicts of interest that everybody's been talking about that's why a lot of people don't think the tom brady contract is going to end up being fulfilled by tom because they think it's going to get too loud but if he's an actual owner i'm pumped to watch him you know whatever the case is good luck tom let's talk about another coach that's name has been thrown into the nfl coaching search even though um chuck pagano accurately predicted feels like this might be a little bit of a business play by Notre Dame head coach who just signed a four-year extension.
Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Shefty, it seems like it is kind of a food gaze, but the Bears have reached out or expressed interest in interviewing Marcus Freeman for their head coaching job.
And obviously, you know, with what Notre Dame's doing, I think it probably is more of a business play. But then also a couple weeks ago, you mentioned, you know, keep an eye out for Steve Sarkeesian as well.
And when you look at the Cowboys, because they are kind of so late in the game, it seems like a lot of these marquee coaches are almost already spoken for. Do you think the Cowboys potentially would reach out to one of these hot college

coaching names that are up?

And ultimately, Marcus Freeman,

he's not even going to entertain that at all, correct?

I have heard that Marcus Freeman is happy

at Notre Dame. He did sign that deal recently.

I don't know whether that's leverage or not.

I have no idea. I don't have direct

information beyond that.

Steve Sarkeesian is a name that has swirled around out there in nfl circles for weeks now his season's over there were a team if there were a team that wanted to talk to him they'd obviously could go do that and and we'll see whether or not he has interest in going back to the nfl um but that's a name that's been out there for a little while, that there will be NFL teams that would have some interest. So we'll see if that actually now happens.
Okay. When's the first hiring? Who does the first hiring? New England today, Mike Vrabel.
Boom! They're set off a jet in here, Schefter. I don't know if you're hearing it.
I'm live at the S&P Shark Tank over here It's been a blast Good luck tonight, where are you at? Are you at the game in Arizona? Yeah, I am in I am in Arizona right now I am literally going over to the stadium as we speak As soon as I hang up with you I only have 26 missed texting calls here So we'll be on the phone here and getting ready for tonight's broadcast vikings at rams in glendale arizona 26 missed calls is that producer is that like mike mccarthy's camp is that the cowboys camp who would that be on this particular overreaction monday that's a zito ty tone uh everybody wants to know you know about their own football teams. A lot of angry fans.
Pissed off dealer fans. Nice.
A lot of those. What's going on there? What ends up inevitably happening there? Pittsburgh.
My guess would be, look, they're pretty easy to predict. They're a pretty stable place.
So I think if you bet on things not changing all that much,

you're probably going to be right.

And obviously they're going to have to make some changes.

They've got two quarterbacks who are free agents.

And we'll see how that works out.

All right.

We appreciate the hell out of you, ladies and gentlemen.

Senior NFL insider from ESPN.

He missed 27 text messages. Now we would assume because he talked about the Steelers again, Adam Schefter.
Yes, Dave. It's fucking wild in here.
What are they doing? They got pyro going on? Lights are going. That's the Shark Tank.
I don't know. The Shark Tank is obviously the home of San Jose Sharks.
It's a beautiful arena here. But they're testing everything as we speak.
And, you know, I think last week at the Intuit Dome, there was like a day off of production beforehand and the Intuit Dome is like so damn great, you know, like the Intuit Dome, brand new, a lot of space. So I think right now is the exact time where everything has to get tested.
So going forward, you know, we're going to have to readjust, you know, that is. That is kind of what life is.
Did you see the piece on Justin Herr? Nope. Josh Allen on NFL Network, game day morning maybe? He's from Fireball, California.
B-A-U-G-H there, not Fireball. Fireball, California, I think.
He comes from a farm and farming country and everything. I guess his high school coach, who was also a wrestling coach, basically had this mantra, APO, which is adjust, persevere, and overcome.
And that's kind of like his life mantra, APO, APO, APO. This was a good piece on him.
Talking about his work ethic, talking about how he comes from this tiny town, but he played every

single sport. I guess he wasn't like

he was bigger and more athletic than everybody,

but in high school, I mean,

maybe as a sophomore, wasn't playing

like the tough guy he was. So the

coach, who was also a wrestling coach, took him

into the wrestling room, and basically

they just played kill the man with the

ball, and Josh always had the

ball. And they told this story on NFL Network.
They're like, basically, we took him into the wrestling, the mat room, and just told him he wasn't allowed to lose the ball. And then we threw everybody at him.
It's kind of how I took it. I don't know how they actually worded it.
But then ever since then, it's like he takes a lot of pride in his toughness is what his coach said and everything. Josh Allen's special talent man we're watching we're watching uh we're watching a legend here and in the way he handles himself and the mocks he has with his teammates and the shit that he talks and the way they fly around in the city of buffalo it's like a perfect match and then that lamar jackson and baltimore marriage what a beautiful one i mean what.
That city, obviously, we see the videos coming out of training camp when the entire youth of Baltimore is at training camp, and he's running down the line and slapping their hands. And the way he's going to work for them every single year, it's like two perfect quarterbacks drafted to perfect places that have gotten behind them in such a way that have led both of their teams to a position of hey let's go win the big one and everybody obviously talks about Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen having a rivalry strictly because they've met a couple times deep in the playoffs and obviously Patrick Mahomes is one and Joe Burrow is another guy who's going to have rivalries on the AFC side it's like Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson have become the rivalry that it is in the highly anticipated fight this upcoming weekend because we're both like, all of us are thinking, which one of these guys is going to be in the next one? Which one of these guys is going to finally get over the hump? And I'm eager to watch it.
It took a long time for a lot of guys to win their first Super Bowl. And we obviously are in a world, in a society, and we're a part of it.
Shit. We're on microphones every single day where you you gotta judge and you gotta talk and there has to be something to say and not all the time is it gonna be positive so both these guys have heard an immense amount of shit talk but obviously have built up massive fan bases what a perfect stage for the nfl to have next weekend aj yeah it is and was it always this way like judging quarterbacks by superbowls like you you truly cannot get into that next level of quarterbacks like when you're talked about if you don't at least have one superbowl ring i know dan marino is a big guy everyone talks about he never got a ring but he was obviously one of the greats i mean now you you kind of have to have at least one don't you if you're a quarterback ty yeah without a doubt i mean a doubt.
I mean, that's the Rodgers thing. We talk about him being a Mount Rushmore guy, like arguably one of the two or three most talented quarterbacks of all time, but he only won one Super Bowl.
And you look at the Packers and it's like, man, if he would have won three or four or whatever, then you're putting him right below Brady. And now it's kind of up for discussion because he only won one.
Lamar and Josh. Yeah, what do you think, Pat? Lamar and Josh, are people not going to, I guess, put them in that top tier, even though Lamar already has two MVPs, maybe a third coming up? Are they going to talk about him differently until each of those guys gets a ring? Yeah, definitely.
I mean, that's just how it is. That's just literally the conversation because they always got to hold something against you.
He's the most valuable player like three times. Okay, does that matter? It's team sport.
It's team sport. They win a Super Bowl or not.
Then if you win a bunch of Super Bowls, they didn't win any MVPs. This guy stinks.
This guy... His defense.
He just relied on his defense in his run game. No matter what.
He's a product of the system. He's a product of the system.
Brock Purdy. This guy stinks.
What are you talking about? His team... What? That stinks.
So there's always going to be something to bitch about for these two guys. I'm happy we get a chance to bitch about how damn great they are on the opposite side.
The NFL is cooking. Obviously, college football is on a buzzsaw like run with how the Orange Bowl and the Cotton Bowl wrapped up as we wrap up Hour 1 here.
In this second hour, we'll have Bill Belichick join us and I think Travis Kelsey. Wow.

You think? The actor?

Zito

just said yes. No.
Yes.

Yes. The actor, Travis Kelsey.

Yes. The podcast host, Travis Kelsey.

Yes. Mount Rushmore

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Football is the greatest. We're so lucky we get to talk about it every single day.
That right there is the greatest.

We're so lucky we get to talk about it every single day.

That right there is AJ Hawk.

AJ, how's the weather back in the Midwest, fella?

It's not too bad.

We had a little bit of a little snow, a little cold, but you know, this is what it is.

It's January.

We're okay.

Yeah, I'll tell you what.

It's cold as hell over here, too.

What?

Really?

It's like legit cold or like California cold?

California cold, Miami cold. You know what I mean? Like those types of things were a little chilly definitely yeah a little chilly down there in miami which is the home of a man who is a nine-year nfl vet and the founder of the all everything db team ladies and gentlemen daryl jay baller d butch uh member of the all everything db team derrick stingley won hamski for the Houston Texans.
How was the weekend for you, pal? Weekend was great. Great football.
And yes, Derek Stingley Jr. did do his thing.
Now my guy on the other side, unfortunately, threw four interceptions. So it's been tough defending him this week.
But this defense over there in Houston, led by Will Anderson Jr., led by Derek Stingley Jr., and then Lassery, even on the other side, they did their thing, and this is kind of what I was talking about last week with his ball skills, never panicking, making great plays on the ball, but yeah, I'm excited to watch this defense obviously go up against Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey, and the boys up there. Yeah, I am excited to chit-chat there with Travis Kelsey.
If you go back to the beginning of this dynasty for the Chiefs, I believe it started with the Texans. Is that right? It kind of started with the Texans in the playoffs? Or is it the Titans? That 2019 year.
Yeah, the 19-0. It was the Texans, right? Yeah, that was their first Super Bowl.
I love that the Texans, who are representing the AFC South, which everybody knows, wagging. Wagging.
Choo-choo. Choo-choo, motherfucker.
That's the AFC South. Train's coming through.
Don't get in the way, because the AFC South will have it stay. Okay? That's great.
Listen to what I say. Hey, Sway, come on.
All these things. Texans are balling.
And C.J. Stroud looked early, didn't look comfortable, but then the reminder was put out.
Nico Collins exists. And he wasn't around all year.
He went hamsky con man. Yeah, Nico Collins is fantastic.
And you thought, too, my big thing was, hey, of course, the Texans did beat the Bills, but that was when they had Stephon Diggs and that's when they had you know Tank Dell healthy who were who were both in the building but obviously in street clothes Nico Collins is unbelievable Joe Mixon also went off he is a freak of nature and you think aside from the Packers really those teams that added running backs Mixon the Ravens with Derrick Henry, and of course the Eagles with Saquon, they are making a huge impact as these playoffs have started so far. And the teams with those best running backs, you got to be careful, especially when you think about these guys going on the road.
Having Joe Mixon when they go to KC, that's going to be massive if they're able to run the ball still.

Remember Joe Mixon and Stephon Diggs,

whenever they came over to the Houston Texans,

said we have reservations and we're late.

And they're talking about for a Super Bowl.

That's what they were thinking.

Aziz Alshair is back.

He punched a guy in the head.

D-Bot, you see that?

Yeah, I think he was going for the ball.

You know, things move.

Definitely going for the ball.

Going for the ball. Definitely going for the ball.
People have lost their mind about that one. Like, come on.
Push me in the ass. Dirty player.
Well, you know how people are. Anything Aziz does, they're going to be watching.
I do appreciate that he didn't dial back at all. He still threw that punch.
You know what I mean? He still swung that bat. He didn't even.
I'm playing me. This is how Aziz outside your place football.
And this is how this is going to go. Now, I don't know.
We talked about the Pittsburgh Steelers a little bit. We certainly did.
But let's go to one half of the toxic table at Ty Schmidt. Ty, the other devastating loss in the office was the Packers.
Now, buddy, hey, pal, friend. Yeah.
About a year away, right? Is that what we're thinking? Or is Jordan Love... You know what? Still a guy? He's thinking right now.
You can see his brain working. No, I'll stick with it.
AJ, I talked to him a little bit during the game, after the game, the whole thing, and I don't know if he's still feeling the way that he was feeling during that conversation or if he slept on it here a little bit and feels differently. Ty, about a year or two out, we feel like we're going to be okay.
Young team, young team. Yeah, I think year or two out is still what I'll stick with.
The thing that's so frustrating or that what stinks so much is for my entire life, anytime the Packers choke get beat in the playoffs it's when the offense is putting up you know 38 points or whatever but the defense the defense gives up 45 or 41 and they just they finally fix the defense someone tweeted out all the metrics this year of how much better they were year over year since they hired Jeff Halfley so they finally fix that but then when they fix the defense and then now it's the offense that can't score.

I don't think anyone was too surprised.

I mean, with how bad they were down the stretch, like it would have taken a miracle to beat

the Eagles in Philadelphia.

But just the way that game started.

I mean, they fumbled the opening kickoff.

They were banged up, but that's no excuse. There are a couple key positions that they need to spend some money on this offseason, which isn't something the Packers typically do.
Love made a lot of stupid decisions in terms of the interceptions he threw. It's kind of the same thing that we've been saying all year.
He doesn't know when it's okay to just throw a check down and get six yards as opposed to on first down just feeling like, oh, I've got to take a shot here. I've got to take a shot here.
And every time he did that, he threw a pick. It just, I don't know, it was one of those things, and it was kind of like every time they played a good team this year.
I mean, the score, it was 16-10 at one point. That was a punt right there.
Exactly. That's another thing.
Two minutes left. Not exactly like they're in a great spot, but you go down there and score, kick an onside kick.
Who knows? And terrible pedigree. You're supposed to be an exciting way.
At least wait for the move. Not a good pedigree.
But the thing about them being young... Great interception though.
Great inter though. They're just super undisciplined.
Super undisciplined. Same thing.
A bunch of penalties. Stupid turnovers.
Obviously in the playoffs you can't lose the turnover battle 4-0 and expect to win. But that's the thing.
They only lost by 12. And it was a one possession game for a good majority of the third quarter there.
So there's a lot of things they need to clean up obviously Jordan Love needs to play much better and in these big games Matt LaFleur needs to figure out how to not get out coach because that that was kind of the story this year too they were 0-6 against the Lions, Eagles, and the Vikings those are teams that you're just going to have to beat if you want to win a Super Bowl and they haven't really proved that they've been able to do that do that in this new era of the team thus far. Big deal.
Got a couple wins against the Bears, though. You know, that's good.
You know, they lost another one. Oh, yeah.
I forgot about that. You lost at the end of the season.
Yeah, I forgot about it. Anyways, Eagles, though.
Jalen Hurts goes 13-21 for 131 yards with two tuts and then 36 rush yards to boot. Jalen Hurts, obviously, fresh out of the concussion protocol,

hadn't played in a few weeks.

D-Botch, what did you see from Jalen Hurts in this particular game that says,

yay, Super Bowl, or nay, not sure if he's a guy that's going to be able to get it done.

Saquon is going to have to be the house for that team.

Yeah, I still think the Detroit Lions are the team to be on that side,

but they would be right there next to him, in my opinion. Jalenalen definitely a little rusty, you know, hasn't played in a couple weeks.
Looked a little rusty in the past game. I think Dan O put out some clips about maybe being more creative in the past game, helping getting these guys open.
Now, you got absolute dogs on the outside, but this play right here was a huge, huge play. Seeing Kyle Zero make the check, getting in Dallas Goddard's hand and letting him do his thing in the open field one-on-one.
So he made the plays that needed to be made, and then you lean on that run game with Saquon. Jalen was scrambling when he needed to.
Saquon did his thing, and then once again, Saquon just being the classy guy that he is, didn't take that all the way to the house. I know it probably killed some parlays at the end if he would have got all those yards and got that touchdown but uh that was kind of the recipe it seemed like this game uh to come in here run the ball control the ball don't turn it over and win this game green bay i think they wasted a great defensive effort you know because with all the turnovers and thing they still had their team in a position to win this ball game with how uh good that defense played so they got banged up a lot on offense, too.
I feel like receivers were going down probably every five plays, it seemed like. So in a critical situation, you're throwing a pass to Heath, who couldn't get two feet in and bounce to give yourself a chance.
So it was tough all the way around for the Packers, but I think the Eagles are still primed to continue this run to the Super Bowl. I like this Eagles team.
Saquon's so much fun to watch. And also, we like to promote literacy around here.
We have a book club. Remember Aaron Rodgers book club? Yeah.
A couple years back. People were saying it was like the second, maybe third largest book club on earth.
Oprah obviously has her book club. Sure.
And then there's somebody else big in the book club. But Catholic Church.
And then we... They put them in hotels.
They're two. No, they'd be number one over Oprah's then, right? You sure? I don't know Oprah's reach.
I never want to doubt it. The Mormons got books everywhere, too.
Reading Rainbow. Hold on now.
Reading Rainbow was a show that showcased books. I don't know how their book club was.
That was a good show. I appreciated that show.
That show broke things down enough for me to understand what the hell is going on in books that we potentially had to read For class that I wasn't able to get to AJ Brown read on a sideline was awesome Then he comes out afterwards all the time. What are you talking about? I do all the time Inner peace you ever felt it.
I'm trying to find it. You ever being a part of a football game.
Yeah, it's chaotic There's some doubt everyone everyone's smile. So I go to page 147, you know, find my highlighted section and go to a different service.
This is actually page two here and we've all had times when everything came together in perfect harmony. Sacred moments when we were totally immense, immersed the experience and felt fully alive.
When these moments, something we wish we wish even for a split second we had the courage to something the risky path with all our heart pursue okay and we can often though the fuck these writers and we can often though we're so hard on ourselves amplifying all our failures and regrets that we neglect to see what's still possible. A life of freedom filled with deep contentment, joy and confidence, independent of circumstances.
We're all human with the same deep desires and concerns. You drop a ball, you read that paragraph right there, you're right back in the damn game.
There you go. In the pursuit of extraordinary performance, it's easy to make it a full screen again to succumb to anxiety i don't know if that was in the book or not to anxiety and pressure because so much is out of your control when you learn to live a life that is fully engaged however then you can perform your best and love the challenge every performance presentation or problem you face is an opportunity to learn and grow and vividly experience each moment.
You will find as you take this journey with me that your best moments always come from a clear mind and an unburdened heart. Hell yeah, Jim.
Hell yeah. Hell yeah, Jim.
That's James. Yeah, snap.
Number one, best seller now. Hey, man, I got one catch for 10 yards, so I need to do something about this.

The best marketing situation ever.

Yeah, back to the top.

I like this warning.

I just had a drop.

Let me get a page.

Let me get a page two real quick.

No, I just had a drop.

But I need to go to Jimmer 45, paragraph two.

Yeah, let's get to this one.

This one's good.

Sometimes you're going to drop a rock, a ball, a fumble. You're going to stumble at an opportunity.
I like that messaging, though. And you're right, D.
Butch. Notes have been taken.
Things have been highlighted. He's going through that on a daily basis.
He's working on him. I respect it.
I respect it. I've never seen this during the game.
I've seen guys read books maybe before the game. We always get clips of, like, LeBron after the game.
He reads a lot of books. On, like, the first page.
I like the fact that he's actually reading that thing. He's worn.
He's got highlights. He's got underlines.
I like that AJ's locked in. He knows he's aware that the cameras are on the sidelines, so not losing it, not cussing somebody out about the targets.
You know, people are still running with, hey, he's reading the book. He's not engaged.
He's not this. I like it.
I like where AJ's at right now. Team guy.
He didn't read page two on the sideline. He looked to be a little bit deeper in there.
I don't know what page 47 or 100, whatever he was on, is saying. Page two sounds like an okay thing to be reading on the sideline.
Maybe kickers need to do more of that. Maybe kickers need to be like, listen, you're not the worst fucking person on earth.
Yeah, I'm not. Turn the page.
You're an okay human being, actually. And then all of a sudden, somebody two feet away from you, you're not.
You're not. It's a good little battle.
I love reading on a sideline. Promotes literacy.
Everybody should be reading. Find your own inner peace.
Maybe he has found his. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is the greatest NFL coach of all time and the greatest general manager of all time.
He's currently the head coach for the University of North Carolina Tar Heels football team. Ladies and gentlemen, Bill Belichick.
Yay! Sweet coat. Oh, that looks cool.
You look cool, coach. You look cool.
How you doing? Good to see you. Hey, good to see you as well.
What are you doing? Are you on the road recruiting again? What's life bringing Bill Belichick on this particular Monday, coach? We can't recruit for these three days. Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday.
Those are dead days during the NFL or the AFCA convention. So, no recruiting, but out taking care of some other stuff.
Okay. So the AFCA, the American Football Conference of America, I assume, is that what that's called? Coaches Association.
Yeah. American Football Coaches Association.
There it is. Okay.
Okay. I remember the fired Football Coaches Association.
Gruden was always watching film. The American Football Coaches Association is clearly what Gruden was mocking during that entire thing.

Okay, it's all coming together. Maybe get that guy back in the

league for more reasons than not.

Let's talk about you down at UNC.

How do you feel about where the team is? And are

you watching these college football

playoffs and trying to see how you

can build a team that can compete

and beat these squads? Orange Bowl was

awesome. Cotton Bowl, electrifying.

Four best teams on

display. Are you watching and judging, or how are you treating all this for college ball right now? Yeah, well, I've watched the college games, you know, kind of as a fan from the outside, but we'll take a closer look at them and break them down when we, you know, get to the film and get into the all-season program.
Most of my focus now is on recruiting at North Carolina. January is the one month when

the head coaches in college

can be on the road and so i'll be out on the road uh most every day in january to do that other than these three days here uh that are that are you know days we can't be recruiting okay so you're just casually watching the game trying to. Yep.
Okay, how do you feel about putting a staff together?

Because now you're competing with Vrabel for guys.

Have you heard the news?

I know you've been on the road here in January.

I know you've been recruiting, trying to put everything together.

Mike Vrabel is now the head coach of the New England Patriots.

That was announced officially.

How do you feel about the move?

And what are your thoughts on Mike Vrabel since he has become a coach after leaving as a New England Patriot a multiple-time Super Bowl champion? Yeah, I think Mike's done a great job. Certainly his entry into coaching was no surprise to any of us that knew him and coached him at New England.
I talked to him when he was at Ohio State and then when he went to the Texans and then, of course, at Tennessee and we practiced against them and stayed in pretty close contact with Mike. So I have a ton of respect for Mike.
I think he does a great job. He prepares his teams well.
They're very good in situational football. They're tough.
They're competitive. They're smart, just like he was as a player.
I think the teams that he's coached and the position he's coached follow very much in his playing style and in his preparation style. So, you know, I love Mike.
I love everything that he stands for as a football coach. And, you know, I have a lot of respect for him.
I'm sure he'll do a great job. There's the clip running around of whenever he ran those delay of games with more than five minutes left in the clock.
He kind of pulled a Belichick to you and I think that was the moment that I think the whole world was like, oh, we get not just a meathead who loves a little nicotine. This is also a football genius.
Do you remember that moment and what are your first thoughts when you think back on it? Yeah, I remember the moment and the way the play was explained to us prior to that by the office the league office was a little bit different than the way that i thought it was officiated uh yeah no i understood the role we did the same thing earlier that year uh but the it was kind of between me myself and and what my understanding was from the officials on the way that was going to go uh so uh but yeah no what he did was completely within the rules As I said, it's something that we had done. But that's Mike.
Mike does a great job. You know, he changed the game in the Colts on Vanderjus' miss in the opening, you know, start of the season opening game when he called the second time out and Vanderjus missed.
And then, you know, Paulian and the competition committee changed the rule the next week. So Mike's always been one to take advantage of those situations.
He's a heady, smart player and coach. I think so, too.
And, you know, we're all happy that rule was instated. You know, we don't have time just to be calling timeout 10 consecutive, sorry, three consecutive plays.
Nonetheless, love the way Vrabel operates. Taylor LeJuan,

he put out a video basically as a heads up to all the Patriots players on what life is about to be like with Vrabel. And in there, he mentioned, hey, you need to know, obviously, the three keys

are the keys to the defense, offense, and special teams. It does not matter what side of the ball

you're on. You need to know the janitor's name, okay, because in team meetings, he's going to pop somebody up there, and he's going to put your ass on the spot to know everything that's going on.
He said, your life's going to suck, okay, boys? It's going to suck for a while, but you are going to be better because of it in the end. Is that similar to how you ran, and why are those little things you think so important to running a successful operation, coach? Well, I certainly think it's important to know the people that are in your organization, whoever they are, not just your teammates, but the other people who support you.
And, you know, just to know the history of the franchise or the team, whatever it is, but that just, you know, makes communication and, you know, respect for each other flow much more smoothly. But, again, we've always been big on preparation.
Mike did that as a player. I'm sure he'll continue to institute that as a coach.
And that's part of the player's job, just to be prepared for the opponent, but also to know everything that you do internally so that you can take advantage of all the opportunities that you have on your team with your teammates, your playbook, and so forth. I can't wait to watch.
I think we all just assume that the Patriots are about to be all the way back in. Of course they are.
MJ has a question for you. Coach, I'm sure you've been watching, obviously, the NFL playoffs and everything that's been going on this past weekend.
We've heard people talk about, hey, just don't beat yourself. Let's not do things to lose this game.
Do you see that playing out when you watch this first round of the playoffs? Oh yeah, absolutely. I mean, I think a couple of these teams got to feel terrible today.
Green Bay, fumble the opening kickoff, spot the Eagles seven points. I mean, that's really hard to do on the road against a team like Philadelphia.
Then, you know, they miss a field goal, which has been a problem for them all year. That showed that showed up.
Tampa you know they fumble a handoff on a jet sweep action play that didn't really have anything to do with the defense then they fumble another short yardage play and screw up the handoff and get stopped and get held to a field goal you know that didn't really have anything to do with Washington's defense it was just bad football and those are the kind of plays you look back on when your season ends that you say, well, we, you know, we really messed those up. You know, Pittsburgh, you know, trying to get the get their guys on the field on a fourth and one end up with, you know, struggling to get lined up on a short yardage play and, you know, give a conversion of Baltimore on that, you know, those kind of plays where you feel like you beat yourself and, you beat yourself and they're just really hard to overcome when your season ends that way.
I think the number one thing is, as you said, is to make sure that you're doing everything that you're doing right and that you execute what you can execute and make sure that you don't just hand the game away on something that isn't a great play by the opponent. It's just more of your inefficiency or just, you know, screwing something up.
Feels like that's the difference between great and good, you know, and ball always has been, always will be, especially in the NFL with the amount of parity. The team that doesn't fuck it up more is normally the team that goes on to win it.
Now of those there's multiple things that popped up in college football with the bye week connor has a question for you yeah coach obviously the college bye weeks did not bode well for the teams on the bye but for the nfl the chiefs and the lions what are their weeks like uh this past week and now you know leading into game week are they watching all the? Are they watching the potential teams they're going to play?

And are the coaches, like is Andy Reid and Ben Johnson,

obviously been at interviews,

but is Andy Reid drawing up a bunch of new plays?

Or what are those bye weeks like for the one seeds?

Well, look, it's great to be a one seed,

and congratulations to Kansas, Sydney, Detroit

for winning the playoff game last week

because that's effectively what happened.

They move on to the next round without even

having to play. And that's a great, great

situation.

But I'll say this.

When you're the number one seed

like those two teams were,

you have the least

amount of predictability on who you're going to play.

So if any of the wildcard

teams win, you could play them, whoever the lowest

seed is. If all the wildcard teams lose then you play the lowest uh division seat right so or so you can end up playing the four five six or seven seat uh based on you know how the weekend comes out and so um i'd say from that standpoint there's less predictability on who you're going to play when you're the number one seat uh than when you're at other positions when you're at the bottom you know if you win you pretty much know how those games are going to match up going forward but you know I think it was interesting when you looked at the at the Eagles game the Philadelphia game against Green Bay you saw the Eagles run three or four plays offensively that were really I would say playoff plays you know they faked the tush push push, tried to launch a post down the field and hit a big play on third and inches.
They ran a couple of deceptive plays. Quarterback runs with Hurts off of action to Barkley, knowing that the defense would be keying heavily on Barkley at this point in the season.
I think that Detroit and Kansas City probably would be working on a couple of plays that that they've probably been working on all year. But now saying, OK, here we are coming down to, you know, critical games.
What plays can we maybe use that are a little bit different, a little bit of a deceptive? Maybe it's a new blitz from Aaron Glenn or Spags that they've kind of cooked up.

Maybe some look that they've been given, and now they can give that same look

and run some type of different blitz from, you know, Aaron Glenn or Spags that they've kind of cooked up. Maybe some look that they've been given and now they can give that same look and run some type of different pressure on it.
Or maybe it's a punt rush or fake kick, something like that. I think those kind of plays could come into the, you know, into the action here for those teams because they do have a little bit of time to work on them.
And honestly, those are the kind of things that keep your players interested too. You do something that's a little special, a little bit different, another handoff to Sewell or whatever it is, and it keeps practice energy up a little bit.
Hey, how come everybody said the Patriot way, Patriot way is so hard, so tough, which it is, and it was obviously, but you pulled out trick plays all the time. Is that because of the players you had is it a part of like keeping players like kind of interested and also adding little wrinkles for maybe other people have to deal with yeah well i look i think those plays pat what i always said to josh and josh did a great job of it josh mcdaniels did a great job of it we said you know going into the playoffs let's let's get a play that can either score points you know, so maybe a goal line pass or something on the two or three yard line, a red area pass, or something that's going to gain a yard.
You know, a chunk play of yards, 20, 30 yards, something like that. You know, I don't want to work on another run that's going to gain three yards.
Let's work on something that can really, you know, impact the game. And so, you know, that came up in the Ravens game in 14,

where we ran the double pass, ran a couple of oddball formations. We were down by two touchdowns in the third quarter and were able to come back and tie it and eventually win the game.
So Josh and I always thought about plays that would really, we thought could make a difference in the outcome of the game or could actually score points, you know, get a touchdown instead of a field goal in a close game like that.

So, look, Pat, when you say Patriot way, I... the game or could actually score points, you know, get a touchdown instead of a field goal

in a close game like that. So look, Pat, when you say Patriot way, I don't know what that is.
I don't know what the Patriot way is. That's kind of a buzzword that everybody else uses.
You know, to me, it's about preparation. It's about, you know, being a good teammate, team building, and then performing well under pressure.
That's what winning football games is. the tag that goes with that

is really

a team building and then performing well under pressure. That's what winning football games is.
I don't, you know, the tag that goes with that is really, I don't know.

That's a big marketing tool.

I don't know what that is.

I believe in preparation, performance, discipline, and consistency.

And that's the Patriot way.

Boom.

I appreciate the hell out of you, ladies and gentlemen.

The greatest of all time, Bill Belichick. We appreciate you, coach.
See ya. Can't recruit these three days, Kate.
Don't be putting me in any jackpot shit here, Pat, please. Jeez Louise.
When we talked to him last week and he was traveling around the high schools, I was like, so are you walking right in that front door and just like, hello, insert name of high school, Bill Belichick's here.

Are you causing a little bit of a scene, a little bit of a buzz,

a little bit of a stir that you could cause?

Whenever you go places, he goes, no, that's not really my style.

And also, it's not legal.

I'm not allowed to take pictures with anybody that is underclassmen,

anybody that could potentially be a college football player, which could be anybody, I guess. Could be anybody.
2025. Could be anybody.
Not allowed to take photos with because then that could be considered or construed as recruiting somebody that they're not allowed to recruit. That was literally what was said.
He's like, there's rules for everything. We're trying not to fuck up anything.
We're just trying not to get in the doghouse with anything, especially now because I think those little tedious things are potentially the only thing that some people at the NCAA are allowed to attack because everything else is kind of wild, wild west. You know, the wild, wild west.
Imagine him walking in. Imagine it's the teachers.
It's all the other teachers and principals. That's who's going to take his time wanting pictures because word will spread very quickly.
I'm sure word spreads before he gets there. Hey, I think Belichick's coming.
Then once he's there, everyone's peeking out their doors, looking, checking around. And Steve's wearing that Carhartt black long-sleeve shirt.
Bill's wearing that. Was he in a trailer right there? He was shooting a commercial right there? Yeah, what is that? I don't know.
It was a nice jacket. Was that Aflac? He probably had Michael Jordan.
He's probably

doing something with Jordan. Maybe a new billboard

at UNC. A bill on it

with MJ maybe. Bench pressing.
He's

benching or something and Jordan's spotting him

possibly. Oh yeah, maybe

Jordan is. Maybe they're golfing in

the cold. I don't know why he'd have that

jacket on. Maybe it's

one of the biggest

college sponsors. Dr.
Pepper? Maybe it's

because he's in college now so all the college

companies are going to want him. Affleck, that has Affleck written all over it, especially with Saban.
Yeah, and Prime, who might be the new head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. I saw that.
People were talking about maybe even Shadur going down there because you got a quarterback on a big contract in Dak. You get Shador on a rookie contract.
Then you got Coach

Prime coaching back in Texas

obviously as a former Cowboy legend.

Now we're talking are the Cowboys back

all of a sudden. The way Coach

Prime coaches, a lot of people don't give him credit for it.

He's a hard ass. He's a bit

of a hard ass. Obviously, the team overachieved

this year. They had a lot of talent, but I think

they were only scheduled to have five and a half wins. What was it

going into the year, Tone? It was either

four and a half or five and a half. I can't remember exactly.

It was really long. 9 or 10

I'm not sure. achieved this year.
They had a lot of talent, but I think they were only scheduled at five and a half wins. What was it going into the year, Tony? It was either four and a half or five and a half.
I can't remember exactly.

It was really long. Nine or ten?

Yeah. Whenever it all said and done after winning the bowl game?

Yeah, nine.

So, yeah.

Not, yeah, BYU.

Bad, bad, bad. And remember, we picked

Colorado because everybody was playing.

We said,

them boys ain't going to want to go out like that.

Sorry, Mormons.

You know, the prime time crew is coming through.

And they did not.

Instead, it was B.Y.

Jake Retzloff, the Jewish quarterback, in that B.Y. U-team.

They overperformed this year as well.

College ball has been awesome this year.

So good.

College ball has been absolutely awesome this year. I mean, first round of college football playoffs, I think everybody was a kind of crop.
Yeah. All the home teams did their thing, kept it moving.
But boy, Orange Bowl, Cotton Bowl delivered, I think. Orange Bowl, Cotton Bowl delivered in a huge way.
Bowl season, without the college football playoffs, the bowl season delivered in a massive way. I think there was...
i think college ball was fantastic this year aj legitimately legit the the level of play is only getting better and better because the players are getting better and better and i guess although people don't love it that they can transfer and pop around teams more guys are getting opportunities that may be stuck behind some studs at other schools in the past i think so more guys are having opportunities some guys. Some guys, there's less opportunities as well.
Say you're a solid starter, transferring a couple guys, boom. Your starting job is gone.
You might have to find a way to play somewhere else. I don't know.
I think what AJ's saying is more players are getting shot to shine. Ain't that right? Yeah, it's pretty awesome.
We started with 12 and we're counting down to two now. It is a huge bummer.
I feel like that kind of set in this weekend.

We're like, oh, shit.

We only have one college football game left.

We really only have, what, five, six NFL games left?

This time is the best because of how awesome the football is.

It's the best teams.

We're talking about the Bills playing the Ravens next week.

That's going to be unbelievable.

But it just blows because we are also staring down like, hey hey where's this free agent going to sign in a month and that is kind of what the reality of the situation is it's it's sweet for me because when you have a poopy team that is looking to get better this is kind of where your season starts but when you're just talking about actually watching and you know football ending it's it's. It's bittersweet, if you will.
Well, to

look ahead through the offseason, not that we

need to do that or want to do that, I think we're going to be in town

for the Combine this year. Hell yeah.

Remember that age? I

scheduled our vacation right around the only thing that

happens in our city.

Well, we planned

ahead. This year, we planned ahead.

That's right. That's right.
We looked

ahead. And I don't know if it means anything, to be honest.
A lot of unanswered emails going from our end to their end. I don't know how it's going to go at the Combine.
I know we're in the same city as the Combine. So I think that is, I think we will certainly be able to breathe the same air.
I think people will stop by. I don't know if we're going to be at Combine, though.
Just as a age we're pitching to be at Combine up there on the terrace. Would we have to whisper, though? Would we have to be quiet and speak like we're at a golf event? Yeah, I mean, that's normally what I do, right? It's kind of normally how it goes.
I think they know what's coming, you know, if we're coming in there. But with the action behind us, all the NFL teams, they just have all their suites there.
So we could potentially just get a GM just to accidentally wander right over to the set. I think Combine Week, with where we are now, with the relationships we have around the league, if we're able to just get in there, I think it could be awesome.
And I still have hope, but... Who's not answering emails?

Who do I...

Hmm.

Who do I reach out?

Town, here's the thing.

And we talked about this being a problem with our particular business

with the way we run.

It has allowed us a lot of freedom

to say and do whatever we want.

But whenever you do that every once in a while,

there's a stray go fuck yourself to this person or one to this person directly to their face. And then those people all of a sudden, guess what they do throughout their careers? They move on up into positions of power.
And all of a sudden you wonder how somebody that dumb could get put in that position. That's what you're thinking.
But on the other side, they're thinking, hey, this is the person you're going to have to. And he's like, well, we ain't going to be able to do that because four or five years ago, I typed up an email that I thought was one of my best.
Laying out potentially, you know, all the faults. Read it to crowd.
You know, good pop. Good pop from crowd, I think.
Basically every time. Is that true, boys? Yeah.
Nailed it. You got to do that, though, H.
I don't love doing it. But every once in a while, you got to tell somebody who's terrible at their job that they're terrible at their job.
And that you don't want to work with them ever again strictly because they are terrible at their job. And that you think they're a disrespectful prick.
And the way they talk is not the way you should talk to anybody. And then you re-edit that and you google some other words that are synonyms of words so then you really start typing up an email that at the end of it basically gets the point across go yourself you are a piece of trash and then you find out three four years later wow that is actually the gatekeeper for anything you potentially need to do and uh they did read the email and uh but it probably was warranted but they don't see it that way and that's just that's life in the game you know that's that's kind of been our business since the beginning and uh it'll continue but it has affected us it has affected us on that note i would like to let the world know i was not trying to murder kyle brant like that i think whenever they put us on a split screen, it looked a little bit more combative

than if I was just speaking to the entire thing.

But Kyle Brandt not knowing who Lil Wayne was

and then talking to Lil Wayne like,

you got talent, man.

I was impressed.

I couldn't take it.

As a fan of Kyle Brandt,

as a, I don't think we're technically friends because I don't know know if we've ever hung out before, but as somebody high energy, white, in the football world, watching, I have a lot of simpatico with Kyle Brandt. When I watch him do his stuff, I'm like, this dude is a talent.
When he was talking, the way he was talking to little Wayne, I just couldn't take it. So I had to, you know, I had to let him know that that was absurd and that we can't be doing.
He didn't know he was talking to Lil Wayne. I just couldn't take it.
So I had to let him know

that that was absurd.

He didn't know he was talking to Metallica

or Guns N' Roses

or the Beatles.

He was acting like

Lil Wayne.

When did he talk to Lil Wayne?

Because I saw you.

I didn't see he interview Lil Wayne.

It was earlier with Colleen Wolfe. They were doing a pick segment.
Wayne's on every week on this show. Kyle Brent is not little Wayne's on every single week seemingly on the show.
They do they do like game. They do a game like a late-night show game and then he also makes picture whatever with Colleen and this time Kyle Brent went in there and Kyle put out that tweet was like getting to work a little way

What song shot? Let's see. It's my first time.
You know, he was like your fans are rabid. It's like oh Kyle come on man.
Come on man. Come on man was all I was thinking so then I just kind of went with it and As my brain was rolling it was like I can't believe this is happening I feel like somebody's got to stick up for little Wayne here a little bit and and not the little way he needs it.

Obviously, 26-time Grammy nominee.

Has a couple songs with over 600 million streams. A billion streamer on Spotify.
So just somebody being like, I was impressed. Got some talent, man.
I was just, all right, can't have it. But I love Kyle Brenton.
I'd like to let the world know that legitimately. I just thought I had to speak up for an era that got a chance to experience the Wayne train on every single song from about 2004 to 2010.

Now, joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is an icon.

Okay?

Not just in the sports world, but in the world world.

Because how he has represented our sport in gentlemen around the world with his chivalry and excitement and loyalty to his partner has been nothing short of fantastic. You would think, how can this guy get any better? Oh, yeah, he's a Mount Rushmore tight end.
Going to go down potentially as the greatest of all time. He has won Super Bowl after Super Bowl, looking to win three straight for the first time in the modern era

from the Kansas City Chiefs.

Tight end, ladies and gentlemen, host of the New Heights podcast, Travis Kelsey.

Yeah!

Gang, it's been a while, baby.

We miss you, man.

We miss you, man.

We've been watching, though.

You've been dominating.

We miss you.

We love you.

How are you doing?

Walter Payton Man of the Year for the Chiefs,

continuing to make the world a better place while breaking records.

How are you doing, brother?

My honor.

I'm doing good, man.

We're fired up, man.

We got the Houston Texans coming into Arrowhead this weekend.

And, man, ain't nothing better than NFL playoff football, baby.

I've been fired up all week.

Okay, so let's talk about it.

In college football, have you been paying any attention to the college football playoffs? Of course I have, baby. Come on now.
If football's going on, I'm watching it, man. Especially when the Buckeyes are making a run at it.
You know what I mean? There you go, Ohio guy. I'm cheering for all Ohio football, baby.
Obviously, I think we all are because how cool that team is and in the moment that they were in. But the college football playoffs, every team that had the bye ended up losing.
Now, granted, it was like three weeks before their first game. You're coming off a bye.
You guys are no stranger to that. How did you spend the bye? How does the team feel? And how does your old ass feel at this moment going into? I'm fired up, man.
I'm feeling 22 all over again, baby. go hell yeah fire me up i don't know about you i'm feeling 22 hey she had us do this thing trap she had us do this thing right here i was hoping you caught the reference baby um man i'm ready to rock and roll man it's the biggest the biggest thing for me is uh is trusting coach reed he's been doing this a long long time um and when it comes to getting the bye week we've had a few of them over the course of uh my career so the big for me it's just making sure we put the pads on at least one time uh throughout the week make sure we uh we get our physicality uh in and uh get that in check uh play with some low pad level throughout the week and then on top of that gets put your feet up man watch some football Watch some football and get ready for some playoff action.
Go ahead, AJ. Does it matter who you play, Trav? Obviously, you watch the games and playoff games.
Do you ever think about, okay, we match up better with this team, with that team? Did you ever do that any time in your career? I would assume you don't. And also, are you going to be, you know, punking some kickers out of their warm-up situation again if that happens again? I don't know what you're talking about.
I felt like he was trying to punk us. He was.
You were in the right room. And I was just defending my guys.
I was making sure, you know, Pat's ankle was good. I was making sure my guys had some space, you know.
No, I think I've never really gave it much of a thought in terms of who we should play or who I want to play. I just want whoever we got to give us their best ever, man.
I love going up against the best in that challenge week in, week out, man. So I know we're going to get Houston's best, man.
It's a hell of a football team. Houston's obviously had a year that's been like this a little bit.
Then last game of the year, they beat the Hell of the Titans,

and they get a massive win over the Chargers.

Your guys' season, even though you're the number one seed in the AFC,

number one seed in the best record in the entire league, again,

as back-to-back Super Bowl champs.

We haven't got a chance to chat with you much.

Obviously, we've watched New Heights.

All anybody's said is, this team ain't good. This team ain ain't good this ain't the same chiefs team undefeated uh at one point 15 and one at one point number one seed in the afc have you heard all that noise and what is this year's team like versus maybe years past well we're finding we're finding different ways to win and more ways to win uh early on and throughout the season i think last year year we dealt with finding ways to lose.
And, you know, you can learn from both. But learning from the games you win is a whole lot more fun.
And I think we got a lot of confidence in this team and a lot of guys that are willing to go that extra mile, man. And we've definitely heard all the chatter and guys like, you know, Rex Ryan saying that, you know, this team can't win in the playoffs.
And he's seen it before. And, you know, we hear everything.
But at the same time, we know what's real and what's in this building. And that's guys that want to be accountable for the one next to them and are going to keep finding ways to be accountable week in, week out.
Rex pissed off the Texans, too week he said uh the chart the the chargers had a bye week playing against houston rex also pissed off the chiefs rex keep doing it rex keep doing it great work uh let's talk about your team before the boys have their questions as well patrick mahomes obviously another year he's cemented as one of the goats just like you What have you seen from him this year that's different? Or has Patrick Mahomes now found exactly who he is? Leadership, playing style, everything like that. Well, I've seen him weather the storm.
Everybody's mentioning the protection and who we've had up front. I think we figured that puzzle out.
And on top of that, I've seen Pat Pat, you know, weather that storm and become better because of it. I think, you know, when the team needs him the most, he steps up in ways that he hasn't before.
And it happens year in, year out. And it's just so much fun to be a part of the team with him because he's always going to take the bull by the horns and be the most accountable be the one that puts it on himself more than he puts it on anybody else and uh that's true leadership right there man he's awesome to watch you you both are when something needs to happen he's going to do something absurd and then he's going to find that big handsome bastard from ohio wearing 87 who's running a travis route uh d butch has a question for you trav yeah Trav we got Mount Rushmore guys all over the place up there talk about you Pat like Spags Dave and then obviously Andy Reid your head coach what what separates Andy Reid from you know the other guys I feel like he always has you guys prepared for every situation is it the competitive practices like what goes on into the preparation with you guys a weekend in and week out that you're always preparing any moment to win the game in any type of way? You know, I think you're on to something.
His competitiveness and his ability to challenge guys, and that's not an easy thing to do is to challenge grown men in a way that's respectful and a way that you can get the best out of them. I think he relates to everybody in such a way that he gains that respect as you come into the building just by being relatable.
And with that being said, I mean, we were in full pads and going ones versus ones last week, and that's the type of competitive practices that are going to get you ready for the playoffs, knowing that every single week of the playoffs, it gets a little more physical, it gets a little bit more faster as you get deeper and deeper. And it's just, I love the guy for so many reasons, but his ability to challenge everybody week in, week out, just makes everyone that much better.
You got tucking in every, right? We always chat about how like Andy Reid's an accountability-driven coach. It's like at practice, it's always just gets said, but I don't think I've ever actually heard or not.
We're tucking in jerseys. We're doing the whole thing around the building.
Like that is Andy Reed, old school type. Oh yeah.
Old school, old school mentality, kind of a military, uh, feel to it. Um, you're going to look sharp as you, as you go to it, but he's kind of gotten a little, it's kind of, it's a little bit on that i think yeah he gives he gets he might be prejudiced towards skinny guys because he gives the the big boys the ability to keep the shirts on top well he knows big guys let's just get them to sunday let's just get these dudes to sunday let's win uh ty has a question for you about that beautiful city you play football in yeah travis a lot was made last last year during the playoffs against the Dolphins about how fucking cold it was.
You know, you had people getting hypothermia in the stands and stuff like that. And obviously the Dolphins couldn't deal with it.
We have a winter storm ripping through the Midwest right now. What's it supposed to be like weather-wise? Do you know this weekend? And would you prefer a situation like that where you're lining up out there with a stack of dimes but you know you got a team you know from houston or from a warm city coming in that's probably not going to be able to handle the climate the same way you guys are going to be able to i'm not going to lie man i'm i'm an ohio football guy baby i love it when it's just cold and snowy and you just get the all the elements all the elements mixed into one and um i'm not I'm not going to say that I'm hoping for that but I I definitely love it when it's uh because it adds a little bit more to how dramatic the game can be um or at least feel um but at the end of the day I don't care if it's raining snowing if it's at Arrowhead somewhere else in the Walmart parking lot you can take put the roll the balls out and let's play some football baby is there going to be an aura in that place a little extra you know we're talking about you know where's oh yeah you know it baby you know it's playoff football man hey she's is she undefeated hey she rolls in that stadium i just want to let you know what live betters do i just want to let you you know what live bettors do They see her walk into that stadium Immediately open the phone It's like yep Chiefs are about to win That is just literally the feel Hey you're a gentleman pal You continue to represent football in a beautiful way We appreciate you Legitimately So many fuckboys heard about them all because my wife now i've listened to all the albums i've heard about them all i appreciate you dude you and also i think there's one coming where it's like gonna be great like hey guy good thing you know like that'll be great in my house i don't know there might be a few have you heard any have you heard any do you get Are you a testier? You know, I can't say any of that.
You know, I can't say any of that.

I don't know. There might be a few.
Have you heard any? Have you heard any? Are you a testier? You know, I can't say any of that. You know, I can't say any of that.
I hear music everywhere. Okay, let's just say you're hanging out.
Say you're hanging out. Have a little dinner.
No, have a little dinner. All of a sudden, the creative juice sparks in the absolute beast that you're sitting with, who is going to go down as maybe the most famous icon in the history of music.
And she starts thinking something and you go, Ooh, I like that. Are you, are you a, are you a motivator at every single time? Oh, now you know it, you know it.
I don't, I don't, I'll never, I'll never chime in, but you already know it's, it's full. I'm, I'm, I'm here to support it.
I'm here to see where it can go. You know what I mean? And I'll tell you where it went.
That stadium was bananas that we were in. Lucas Oil Stadium.
We were talking about it earlier when you said you were feeling 22. They had those lights on their arms.
She had every single person in there. It felt like it was moving the actual stadium.
It was an electrifying trap. I mean, I can't.
It was awesome. I know you have a great time.
I thought the European crowds were crazy, man. But I'll tell you what, man.
Lucas Oil, I got to go to the last night over there in India, and they were going nuts. They were more – I mean, I think I've seen that thing rocking when the culture plan.
They might have had that thing rocking even more. Might have.
I mean, okay. I think that's a definite, brother.
I think you can say definitely. Speaking of off the field, before we let you go, we know you have a lot of work.
Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Travis, also representing on the silver screen.
Happy Gilmore 2. You are now part of the Sandman squad, I assume.
How was that? How was working with Sandler? How many lines we uh working with here after your incredible debut on fx as well man i appreciate that i'll tell you what man that was a dream come true i thought i thought snl was going to be you know the peak of my uh acting and uh showman or entertainment career um working with you know happy gilmore himself, the Sandman and Happy Productions.

It was it was off the chain, man.

They're so professional and yet so fun to work with.

I felt like I was working with like the Andy Reid of the of the acting world, man.

And he is he is every bit as cool off the off the screen as he is on the screen, man.

And that was a dream come true, man.

That was awesome.

I mean, I believe a few scenes.

I got I got a pretty, pretty hefty load in there. Oh, hefty load.
Okay. Hefty load.
Oscar. Okay.
Yeah, maybe. Hey, we up for any awards in this entire thing? What is that called? Best new actor, maybe? I don't think I'm i don't think i'm up to up to those uh i don't know that caliber of acting yet um and i don't even know if i'm in that much of uh happy good might even be uh you know hefty loads for an award hefty loads get awards hefty loads that certainly did you guys play any hoops in your downtime yeah in your downtime did you take any oops from the sandman man i wish i wish i was only there i was there on the bye week so i wasn't i didn't get too much uh time to really hang out but um you already know we got to get on the court with the sandman hey the chiefs are still the chiefs we can't thank you enough for being awesome and uh thank you for swinging by brother keep crushing life i always love coming on here with you guys man you.
We'll catch you. How's New Heights? How's New Heights? I didn't even ask.
How's New Heights? We love it. We're rolling, baby.
You guys are great. We just had another great Will Ferrell on there last week, man.
It was cool as hell. Just chopping it up with him, talking about Frank the Tank and Anchorman and everything, man.
It was awesome. And then Walter Payton Man of the Year, giving back to the world,

making the world a better place while growing a fantastic beard right now.

Is this a playoff beard here?

Just a little playoff beard.

It's going to get real ugly if I make it to the Super Bowl.

Like your brother.

Do you have, like, your brother's beard too there if you wanted?

Oh, yeah.

It gets a little, just a little, I don't know, different shades right there.

Just a little flavor saver right here.

Yeah.

It looks great.

Can't wait to watch it all the way through.

I don't know there are different shades right there just a little flavor savers right here yeah it looks great can't wait to watch it all the way through another super bowl i hope you're the man ladies and gentlemen travis kelsey he's feeling 22 dude yes when's when's the new happy gilmore come out i should have asked i think it's this year summer probably yeah probably. July 4th.
Do summer movies do well? Is it going straight to streaming? It's Netflix. It's on Netflix.
As far as I know, it was made for Netflix, but I could see that being the kind of thing where it's in theaters for a couple weeks. Didn't Samman sound like a 10-piece Netflix deal? He did.
The movie theater gimmick, we don't need it. You know? Like, hey, I appreciate it.
Just make me upcharge and then send it to the movie theater. Make me pay an extra ticket worth, 12 bucks, 15, 20, whatever the hell it is, on top of it so I can stream it at my house and send it to the theater.
Let it count as the box office. There's no reason that I gotta leave my house in 2025 to watch any of these movies.
Amen. Tom, whoa.
Nick, I still want movie theaters to exist though. No, you got a great idea there.
That's a good compromise for everybody. They do it with the rentals now where it's like you can rent a movie that's still in theaters, but it is like 20 bucks.
I think Happy Gil. I think Happy Gilmore 2, sure.
It could go straight to Netflix. Okay, something that Tom Cruise is starring in, that's made for the big screen.
Yeah, you need to go see that on IMAX. You need to go see that on IMAX.
If Bradley Cooper's in it, we're going to watch that on the big screen. Bingo.
You know, because Coop's in it. If our guy Glenn is in it, probably if it's streamable, going to watch it.
If it's meant for streaming and it's a series, going to watch it. But if it's a movie and it's a movie theater, going to go there.
But Nick, you want to kill all movie theaters. I don't want to kill movie theaters.
I like a good little date night. I like a good little date night.
Full lay down seats now. It's way better than it used to be.
Full lay down? I can't. I'm asleep.
I'm asleep. You do that.
I do fall asleep. Yeah, I do.
It's great. Take a little nap.
I don't need... Great date night.
I'm going to nap. You watch a movie you like.
This is perfect. We're out.
We're doing it. I guess not dating.
I'm talking with my kids. I take my kids to the kids' movies.
I take a quick 40-minute nap. You don't like watching the movie? I love it.
I could fall asleep through my own... If you show me a video of my own death, I could still fall asleep through it.
Excuse me? What? Yeah. People say, oh, how'd you fall asleep? I could fall asleep through anything.
How long is your death? Through your own death? Why would somebody, what is that even? I don't think I fully, I've never heard of that before. I mean, they show me a video of like, hey, this is when you're going to die and how you're going to die.
If I'm tired, I will fall asleep at some point throughout that video. So they can't capture your attention if they're telling you exact information that you're going to need to know.
I love that about you. That's why you should never drive.
And the fact that you drove over to Indianapolis today to be in the Thunderdome, we're very grateful for. This show will continue on ESPN+, Disney+, YouTube, and TikTok Live, which is still going.
Still going. And we'll continue over there.
We'll see you tomorrow for Aaron Rodgers Tuesday. What's he going to say? We shall see.
Raw on Netflix tonight. Wildcard tonight.
Have a good one. I think I really nailed that one, boys.
I feel like. Well done.
In the history of those things, I was in the middle of that one. I'm like, this one's a one.
And then I finished it with a little less sauce than I could have hoped for. So I dropped it probably seven, probably seven out of 10.
But those things are all happening in my head while I'm speaking. I hope everybody understands that.
You reminded me that there was a playoff game tonight. I completely forgot.
So that was a nice little reminder on your sign-off. You want to know something that was fun? Fun little game? I bet I could take a guess.
Go ahead. You also wait, you either didn't know it was Monday or you also didn't know there was a game tonight Well I know it's Monday

Because it's Monday Night Raw brother

On Netflix

I obviously knew that

Last night and yesterday

What days of the week it was

As we had football just non-stop

Completely forgot about that wild card game

Until 8th of a second

Before it came out of my mouth obviously

Because it's a big deal

Vikings-Rams is a good game

Thank you. nonstop, completely forgot about that wildcard game until eighth of a second before it came out of my mouth, obviously.
Because this is a big deal. Vikings-Rams is a good game.
This is a very good game, especially with where this Rams team is. I think a lot of people are thinking that maybe the Rams have a lot better chance to win this game than a lot of people are giving them credit.
A lot of people are saying, wait, Stafford, Puka, and the boys are healthy and rolling. And we know the Minnesota Vikings have been electrifying.
But if that defense for the Rams is able to get a few stops and Matthew Stafford is able to be opportunistic on the offense go score some hold the phone and it happening over there in Arizona I know that takes it out of being who's house I don't think anybody thought was be Rams House anyways. Minnesota Vikings fans infiltrate that place probably very quickly, and that becomes a skull chant quick in L.A.
Now it's understood that this is probably going to be a lot of Minnesota Vikings fans. I think the Matthew Stafford let L.A.
Rams understand what they're doing for the city in which they represent and everything that's going on. I think this is a getaway for them away from the chaos that's been taken away in la it's almost like a bowl week you know shefter said like a super bowl but obviously nothing compares to what a super bowl week is like for teams but it is like a bowl game whenever you take a trip away and it's only you and maybe your close family and there's no distractions and although the world is potentially in a much different place outside of that building inside you're just locked in on ball i think moving again to arizona actually helps the rams more than it hurts the rams but that doesn't mean i don't like the minnesota vikings tonight with van ginkie and that b flow defense able to absolutely cook aj yeah speaking we see a helmet right there with the guardian cap fall off and I don't want to detract from the game, but you see yesterday a guardian cap concussion we had happen.
What? Unfortunately. I don't know about concussion.
I can't say exactly what happened. Wait, that can happen? That was scary.
That was very scary, for real. Yeah, it was very scary.
It was a very different game than the game that's happening tonight that I was just talking about, but I do appreciate the fact that the the Guardians... In that cliff, you see it pop off the helmet.
I don't know if you can see it or not. It got me.
Dude, the Tampa Bay guy, the big offensive lineman that has it, it's always so obvious. The Guardian caps are always so obvious.
What's that tone? I said that one blends right in. The Tampa Bay Bucs Guardian caps are some of the best.
The helmets look like they're your cowboy hat on top of a helmet guardian caps

It's just like you want me to look at it. It is a zoom in

Feel to it but beeflo in a Vikings defense could potentially have a day against his Rams offense

D-buts how does beeflo's defense, you know kind of match with what Matthew Stafford and Rams have cooking? I mean they mix it up now with that offense is puka you know puka is the guy that you have to stop he is the game record they do want to run the ball too uh but b flow mixes it up and they intercept the ball to higher clip than anyone else so if it's one i guess throwing in the side for matt stafford is throwing interceptions or pick sixes on this stage but if you look look at this game, you look at the head coaches, two very, very good head coaches, especially on the offensive side, two good defenses. I think the Rams' defense is a lot younger, great up front against the run, but probably could be exposed a little bit in the pass game.
I don't see them blitzing as much as we saw like Aaron Glenn do and makes Darnold very, very uncomfortable. So I don't know which way this game is going to go.
I think it would be a great one, though. I do, too.
Like, I'm legitimately befuddled about how tonight goes. I don't think I've even made a pick yet.
Tone, where's all the money at for this particular game, old Vikings and Rams Monday night wild card game, which a lot of people aren't happy about. I've seen ex-players talk about how stupid the Monday playoff game is.
It's like, I understand the broadcast is going to be amazing, and it's a primetime game, and it's Monday night football, and it's part of a deal. We get it, we get it, we get it.
But even if you move them to Sunday instead of Saturday, early game on Sunday, whoever wins this, it's like, why would you risk a less... Ah.
People aren't thrilled about the Monday night, but I'm excited there's a primetime game on. I'm excited people aren't pumped though about the scheduling and the rest and everything after that.
I can see why. It makes sense.
You're at disadvantage and then you gotta go up and see one of the best teams in the next round so yeah. At least have them play on Sunday they're playing on Saturday right aren't they? Isn't the Vikings No,.
Sunday, 3 o'clock. I think.
I think Sunday. It's the early game.
That's correct. They already played, too, earlier in the year.
This was the Darnold face mask to end the game. Vikings-Rams.
Thursday night. Thursday night, yeah.
And then also, I believe there was a report that the Rams have a photo of MCDC telling Kevin O'Connell after last Sunday night's game, hey, we'll see you in two weeks. So the Rams are very pissed off, too, getting counted out.
And granted, the Commanders won. Even if the Vikings were to win, they wouldn't see the Lions, actually.
Yeah, but I guess MCDC did say the Rams got no chance. Tone, what are the betters saying? Who's winning? 54% are on the Vikings.

That's close.

Alright, so let's make our picks, shall we?

Toxic table. I'm sorry, go ahead, Tone.

I was just going to say, this weekend

favorites were 3-2

against the spread. The under was

4-1

and the public went 4-1 for the

majority of those picks.

Public won 4-1 for those

picks. AJ and I both went 3-2 on the weekend.
They said you went 4-1. I did not see the updated graphic.
I went 4-1. I can't believe I picked the Broncos.
I picked the Broncos, I guess, to cover. Yeah.
It looked like they were going to early. 7-0, brother.
7-3. They even had the lead.
Made Tyler Bass come out and kick a field goal. Hold a second.
Are the Broncos going to be able to do this thing? Bo Nix connects for a long ball. Oh, my God.
The Buffalo Bills. We knew they didn't have enough talent.
They shouldn't have traded everybody away. They should have fucking paid somebody.
The Bills lose again. 31 straight points.
31-7. Everybody shut the fuck up, please.
That's what the Bills said. That's literally what the Bills said.
What did D-Butch go? I didn't see down there at the bottom D-Butch. What did you...
It's not bad, boys. Everybody above 500.
We're making money. Hey, I'll tell you what.
Doesn't feel good to be me on this graphic, but I am happy that we're all above 500. We're all above 500.
You know, because them utter shows. Ain't that right? Yeah, yeah.
Well, and he was kind of flip-flopping. He almost went to the utter side on a couple of those, so I'm glad he, you know, stood pat.
And 3-2, not bad. Not bad.
Everybody over 500? Are you kidding me? Pretty good. Seeing the board at the most important time of the season? Love that.
Let's have another night like that. Yeah, let's have another one of those.
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Peyton and Eli will be doing a Manning cast on ESPN2. Who are the guests?

Have they announced the guests yet, boys?

Where's the no guests for playoff games?

It's only two guests,

which is good. Jared Allen will be on.

Hopefully he's on a horse. That'd be sweet.

Bill Belichick will obviously be on

for the first quarter. He's prepared.
He's on a

seemingly in a movie trailer set

right now. He's shooting a commercial or

just maybe that's what his house looks like. Maybe he lives in that.
Could be. Down there, maybe.
Just like Jim Harbaugh. Just like Jim Harbaugh lived in an RV out there in LA.
Remember whenever he became a Chargers head coach? Rough ending to the Chargers season, by the way. Rough ending.
Yeah, you can see that coming. People are killing Herbert right now.
Boy. And I heard you say it earlier, Darius.
It's tough to stick up and be a Herbert guy right now for the last few days. Let's not look past the incredible year that he had.
He had a bad game. He had a bad game.
That's going to happen, right? That's why we need to be viewing this, D-Buzz? That is correct. And you also need to view it as, hey, let's get some more talent on the outside.

I think that was the conversation coming into this game. And all year long, even though they were winning games, it was kind of like, hey, they haven't beat a ton of good teams yet.
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He ended up with the most receiving yards a rookie has ever had in the playoffs, I do believe. So, 197 yards including a very long one there in the fourth quarter, but then blocked extra points, two points go the other way.
Never seemingly had any momentum or any thought that yeah yeah, we're going to win it. Gumpy, not a terrible year, though, for the Chargers.
No, better than a lot of people thought they would. Yeah, they're behind schedule.
They haven't really ahead of schedule. I'm sorry.
Some of the team is, yeah, for sure. What do you mean? Gumpy was talking about it.
I just, you know, there's a lot of comparisons between Tua and Herbert all the time. And, you know, if Tua had a game like that on Saturday that Herbert did, Twitter would have fucking exploded.
Are you doing the, you're doing the, hey, let's make sure we act the same towards all parties no matter who they are thing? Yeah, exactly. T-Butch knows.
Oh, yes. I was watching that game with Gump on Saturday.
He was – trust me. What was the name? What was the last quarterback for the Chargers throwing four in the – Stan Humphreys.
Yeah, okay. San Diego Chargers legend.
Didn't Tua throw three picks against the Texans this year? He did throw three, yeah. Did he throw four? Are you defending Tua or not here? How many turnovers? Chargers forced eight turnovers in two playoff games.
They win at either of those games? Jeez Louise. Did they? Did they blow? What were they up on the Jags out of the first? What's your problem? Who are you mad at? He's fired up.
What is your deal? Well, I take it on the shins every day for two of us. Remember how good things Chargers? Yeah.
Chargers are ahead of schedule. They're a good football team.
But also. People too.
And he would like to have... Justin Herbert should be held accountable for playing like shit.
What do you want him to do? What are they supposed to do to him? Not throw four interceptions. What do you want him to do? Hold him accountable.
What do you want him to do? You want to walk the plank? What do you want him to do? Wait a hold him accountable. Thank you for doing what you're doing right now.
We appreciate you doing that. It's going to make Herbert better.
Glad I can do it. It's going to make Herbert better.
Gumpy's holding him accountable. Nobody else wants to.

Shout out to the Chargers. You know, there was

a couple times where I thought to myself, man, if Keenan Allen

was on this team,

maybe.

And they'll be able to do that going forward.

Alright, let's make some picks, shall we, here

on this lovely wild card

Monday. There's one final game of

wild card weekend happening. Vikings and Rams.
Gumps, did you see all the records? Did you see mine, AJ's, D-Butch, and the other guy there for Steve's record on the weekend? The other guy, yeah. Four and one, pretty good.
Thank you, I feel pretty good about it. I can't believe the Bucs lost that game.
They threw that thing away. What happened? What was their center doing? Yeah, what happened there? Seemingly, the center.
The timing was off out of nowhere. And there was somebody yesterday, too, that was a guard for the silent count, forgot what the count was.
You know, we always talk to like AJ or AQ, I mean, where he's like, here's the center's job. Got to get the play call.
Got to get everything like that. But also, there's a fumble, obviously, in the fourth quarter.
That was one of the massive errors that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers made late in this game and the Washington Commanders took advantage of. But having to remember what the count is on is a massive part of the center's job.
Then when they go to silent count, the guard has to remember what the count is on while also remembering the play. And I forget what game it was yesterday.
Guard looks back, does the arm thing, and then the guard literally falls backwards and nobody else moves. And I just thought to myself, like, oh, that's a whole other added.
Like, hey, we're going on three of me's as opposed to also having to do it. The silent count changes games.
What happened there at the end with Tampa Bay and the center snapping it and just Baker and everybody else, that's... Being at home, too.
On the road would be one thing, but it happened twice at home. Can't have it.
But Commanders, five straight wins, last possession of the game, last play of the game. Dogs.
Pretty impressive. Jane Day.
I like. Unreal.

So good.

So good.

Lions don't like playing against mobile quarterbacks either.

Foxy knows.

What do you mean?

100% facts.

My favorite bet of all time for the last probably three, four years

has been opposing teams, quarterback rush yards.

And I'd say it's hitting at a pretty good clip.

And I'd say Jaden Daniels is the most mobile quarterback we've played all year, so this is going to be very, very interesting on Saturday night. Jaden Daniels is a real deal, brother.
I mean, he has debunked. There's a couple times he was making decisions where I'm like, damn, what a decision.
And then there were some times he was getting the edge, like in the fourth quarter, to seal the game pretty much. It was third down.
Tampa still had a timeout. He gets the edge, picks up the first down.
This thing's going to end on a banked-in field goal. I don't think they were expecting a banked-in field goal.
But he gets this edge here. He's supposed to be tackled down, supposed to be down.
Gets the edge, gets first down, heady plays, stays inbounds, and understands just won it with his moxie and his confidence. Malik Nabors was there celebrating alongside of him.
It feels like his teammates love this guy you know like he is he is everything and for gonzalez here i saw a lot of people talking you know obviously he stands like cristiano ronaldo before his uh field goals which is excellent i love that he does that a little swagger a little moxie for a lineup he banks i want home obviously how you doing keep it moving we win the game great snap great hold there by tress way a A lot of people talking about all his nervous ticks seemingly before he does his kick. He has the helmet in the fix of the hair one.
He has the socks where he fixes his socks and his cleats. I don't know if he does this on every single attempt or if this was just this particular attempt because of how big of a deal it was.
How often are we paying attention to Gonzalez's actions there? And then the helmet one was the one that really drew a lot of attention because he doesn't have a lot of hair that's fixable. So every time he would touch his helmet, then do this.
And then he would do it again. Is it time? Nope.
Not time yet. Let me go ahead and do this.
And then I think he gives it one more go. Yeah.
And then he kind of... Almost.
One more. They caught it all.
That's crazy. And they captured it all.
And then they put it on. All right.
So I think what he was trying to do, I think he probably does something of this nature before every single kick. And I think as he was walking, timing-wise, he was trying to figure out the perfect timing on when he thought it was right.
He's not the only one, though, that has built up these things to do before a kick. Because you've got to remember, like, kicking is such a mental thing.
You're trying to get yourself into the same exact mental frame and mindset every single time. So you can execute something that, you know, is dependent upon you being this accurate while you're hitting a ball.
So people develop a lot of these things. I used to lick my fingers before I punted because I didn't want to drop the ball.
And I guess it was kind of a nervous tick because I would feel if my fingertips were dry and if they were dry at all my media thought was like oh fuck I'm about to fumble this ball over so so I'd lick it then if we didn't snap the ball quick enough I look at again there's videos of quarterbacks I think licking their fingers a lot could be considered a nervous tick could also consider uh being I want to feel perfect before this particular rep it's not just in football in other sports as well. Obviously golf.
We have the video of Harman. He does the waggles, which really became a part of the conversation whenever he was becoming like a top three golfer in the world.
And we were trying to watch it on TV. And it was impossible, Gumps.
It was tough to watch on TV. Because all you keep thinking is hit the fucking ball, guy.
But all he's thinking is he's trying to feel exactly perfect at a moment. He has no idea how many waggles.
He probably knows that it's going to be a good bit. Hopefully, it's not 12, 13 and then hits it pure right there.
Hold the pose. Imagine if you scull that thing off someone's head after doing all that.
Well, that's what the Miz does, which, but for these people that are able to execute at a very high level, it's, I think, in their head, they're just trying to get to, like, the perfect mindset, and obviously we all remember what Jason Kidd used to do before every single free throw where he would have his routine, and then he would do the kiss. I don't know if he ever shook up from that, if he didn't feel like the kiss was delivered properly.
It's also in baseball, I think, before guys's box there's a lot of stuff with like the gloves and the tape and everything just trying to make sure everything feels perfect for you to go and execute your job who's this lad nomar garcia far of red sox legend me and ham's husband yeah oh i don't know more every single pitch sean casey, boom, unstrap and unstrap and stretch, stretch. Do the whole routine.
Between pitches? Between pitches. NoMar did it between pitches.
Oh, shit. I think it's like a routine for a lot of these guys.
They're doing the exact same thing. That's why they started the pitch clock.
So, guys, stop doing shit like that. Legit, in pitchers, there's another thing.
Pitchers have some of these, too. There is routines that some guy get into,

and I think it's a form of OCD.

I believe it is a form of OCD.

I'm not a psychiatrist.

I just saw a lot of people talking about that.

It's like, but whatever makes you get into the proper frame of mind

to execute your job that's going to be able to feed your family

and help your team, I'm okay with.

But, boy, TV people can help by not showcasing the entire thing.

Because I assume he's pretty embarrassed that the whole world witnessed

Thank you. your team i'm okay with but boy tv people can help by not showcasing the entire thing you know that would because i assume he's pretty embarrassed that the whole world witnessed what he has to go through it was the helmet touched his head it kept going back that was that was the killer for me like the the hair thing's one thing but he let the helmet touch his head like five times and there's four right there if we keep dry we don't shut it next game it.
Next game, they're fine. You know they're fine in the next game, no question.
I know, but for the golf, they stopped with Harmon. They stopped showing all the waggles.
They started catching him a little bit later in his routine so we didn't have to see it because I think they thought about that, but it's like, in these sports that are so, like, you know, you gotta execute down to the eighth of an inch or whatever. There's some people that overthink it, I would say, and have to feel absolutely perfect.
I'm just, I'm so thankful that that went in because somebody that has that in their mind of perfection, that type of miss could be. You hit a game-winning field goal to go to the next round of the playoffs.
You do whatever the fuck you want, brother. Bingo.
You know what I mean? You're going to keep it legit. As long as it goes through the uprights who gives a shit like adam vinitary didn't have much in it before pregame matt stover had a few things that he had to do before every single kick you know he had to do a couple things then vinitary had nothing now he would just walk in like a damn zombie yeah i have no idea those big ones you know because like i don't want to say normal kicks but let's say first three quarters kicks games still undecided we don't know how important every point's going to be but we do know have to make the kick it's jovial he was he was we're jogging on the field hey let's go old man you know point at somebody in the crowd in between the uprights if there's a little right to left wind you know maybe we go right center i point out somebody in the crowd just a little give and take you know it could be something as easy as how about fatso right there and whatever i think that's where we want to keep it right or he would say i think we're going to give it up a little bit all right perfect i'm on your side here i'll deal with the the little billy and i'll try to do my job and get the hell out of your way.
Normally it was a nice little jog on the field. You know, a nice little jog on the field.
That first time when it was, I think it was a game tire was the first one. We're jogging on that field.
Like, all right, old man, we'll find something. We'll find something.
Just fucking nothing. Just like, wait a minute.
Am I out here alone right now? It does feel like there like there's certainly two bodies But only one soul at the moment. Okay, that makes sense.
That makes sense And then I get down, you know and every single time was you ready old man. He nod his head.
Yeah You ready old man You ready old man nothing staring right through my soul just we're talking about I'm just wanting to stop in real time. Look at him.
holy fuck this is it this is the snow game this is the super bowl this is the reason like this is this is why this happens and then obviously boom bang pow next thing you see is this one right here from adam venetarian and it's like wow i was just in the i was just in nfl films right there i i was just i was in the super bowl kick i was in the snow kick i was just in like the most clutch person I think the in the, I was just in NFL films right there. I was just, I was in the Superbowl kick.
I was in the snow kick. I was just in like the most clutch person.
I think in sports, I think people would consider him in the conversation. Mount Rushmore for sure.
And it's like, yeah, I just witnessed why, because he had an ability to go to a place that I could not. I could not get to that point right there.
And he was a machine. So he had no real pre-kick stuff.
It was very different. Just wanted to kick a ball into the net.
Then you want to jog out, strap it up, and kind of do his gig. But then there's some guys like Zane who have a lot of things they want to get to to feel perfect so they can execute.
You make a kick, who cares? Fourth kicker of the year for the commanders, too. Like, they went through some guys as well.

Need them.

Yeah.

Number 47, don't love that.

Yeah, get them a new one.

The late edition.

Yeah.

What's that all about, age?

Yeah, I mean, like Rob said, fourth kicker of the year, correct?

I'm guessing they're not going to slide him at prime numbers. He's not getting any single digit away from a DB or something.

So, you know you're not changing now. Yeah.
You think he's locked in? Here's the equipment room. Hi, yeah, I'm the new kicker here.
Equipment room turns around and just throws the jersey at him. 47.
47? I think you guys threw the wrong number. Nope, that's your number.
I'm a kicker. 47 is the number.
Yeah, that's it. All right, thank God I got a fucking job.
You guys got a helmet, I guess? Can I get this? Can I get this thing I need? Bring your own. He had no options.
He had no options there, 47. That's what I heard.
But he can earn himself a lifetime job. Think about that.
Think about that for a moment. That is the kicking world.
They're on their fourth kicker right now. He just hit a game winner.
Let's say he hits another game winner on a miraculous playoff run. Then he has a great game.
Let's say they don't win it all, but let's say he has a phenomenal game. This guy might have a job for the rest of his life.
Hit a 52-yarder earlier in that game, too. Like, he was 3-for-3 in the game.
And they don't ever, they go for it on fourth every time. Like the commanders refused to punt.
And literally, Dan Quinn, at the start of the year, he literally said, my biggest fear is not going for it, is what he said at the start of the year. And who are they playing against? Who did they lose that game to? They got the Dan Campbell-led Detroit Lions.
Oh, yeah. No puns.
Do you know how many balls are going to be punted none in that particular game zero zero if i'm jack fox i'm potentially showing up with my tennis shoes on maybe sweats whatever makes me most comfortable to get down and hold for an extra points and that's it maybe a 70 yarder hey we might try a 70 yarder hey jake bates good luck out that stresses even more. The teams that are like that, and people are going to think this is ass backwards, the punter and kicker for those teams that never punt or never kick have to be good.
Like, they have to be very, very, very, very, very, very good. Because if you only punt or kick every once in a while, it's probably whenever you really need it.
It's probably only when it's a necessity. And if you have somebody that's not good, trot out there, they're going to be cold, haven't really repped much, no idea what they're doing, and they miss, that's catastrophic.
You've got to have good dudes. Just ready for one game.
That's like Jack Fox for the Detroit Lions. He might be the best in the game.
He might be the best in the game, but he only punts, what, once a game, twice a game. I think he's had four games.
I think he's had four games where he didn't punt at all, and he was still first-team All-Pro, and I want to say he broke the record for net average of punts this year, whatever that means, you would know more than me, Pat, but yeah, he's outstanding, and he only gets a couple tries a game. So gross average is how far you kick the punt whenever the person catches it, the returner catches it.
So from line of scrimmage, even though we're punting it from 11 yards, 10 yards behind the line of scrimmage, you only get credit from line of scrimmage. Field goal kickers get credit from where the ball is spotted.
Okay. Okay.
Sounds like bullshit. Line of scrimmage to where returner catches it.
That is just your average, gross average. Net average is after return where it ends up at from line of scrimmage and net is the one that matters and that is the one that matters because that's how much you actually gain for your team now granted if you have a high inside the 20 number that's potentially because you don't have a lot of full fields to work with that could mean your offense stinks so you're uh able to pin then you're able to then they punt back your offense isn't able to move so now you're punting into a short field a lot so your gross average can't be that great and your net average can't be that great but your inside a 20 number should be gigantic because you don't have a full field like there's a lot of guys who have huge gross averages like punting to the returner and then their net average is crap and probably tells you that either the coverage team is shit, which could be the case, or they're hitting balls that are out kicking coverages, which means not a lot of hang time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anybody in the NFL can low line one like 60 yards if they wanted to.
That is just like sometimes you'll see punters do that and uh like even in training camp they'll be guys trying to get jobs or whatever and they're like low line and balls and you'll see the preseason game and they're trying to get that number up but everybody sees it's like that's going to the house that's going to the house that's going to the house in the nfl so those guys that can boom it hang it and get big net like jack fox that's why he's first team all pro. I remember Tone and I were looking at the numbers.
It was hard. He didn't have, he didn't have anywhere near the amount of punts as everybody else.
So I didn't love that because he didn't have to showcase it. But all the punts that he had, he made most of.
And it's like, that's even more pressure. That's even more pressure.
So he's a dog. He won't have to pump much.
Let's go to tonight's game, shall we? Let's make our picks. Gums, who do you think, how do you think this particular wild card game goes? Everything to me says Vikings, but I worry that Flores won't be able to confuse Stafford the way he confuses other quarterbacks.
Give me the Rams plus two and a half. Oh, man.
Okay.

I think I'm off the Sam Darnold wagon after what happened.

One game?

That was bad, dude.

It was bad.

It was old Sam Darnold.

He was overthrown.

He got the jitters.

Yeah, I'm worried about that.

I'm worried about it.

I think the Rams, I think Stafford, I think Stafford has a big game.

I think the Rams' defense does enough where they can get this done. Come on or tell Gumby he was waiting all day for Sunday night.
I mean, I don't know. I've seen a lot of Sam Darnold since, you know, his time with the Jets.
And now I also definitely think the Rams and just the McVay, KOK thing. I do.
I mean, their D-line is awesome. I can't wait to watch Jared Burst tonight he is such a dog but no I would go Stafford and Puka I think I trust them a little more than Sammy Ghost Darnold I just don't Sammy Ghost Darnold is not back in one night for the NFC first overall scene he was overthrown some guys because he was Zeke Dump okay Sue him what you guys guys are, you're holding this against him.
D-Butch, how do you see this one going? You know what? I've been on record in the past saying Sam Darnold absolutely stinks. Jesus.
Years have gone on. He's gone to other places.
You get around a guy like KOC, you get the talent around him, you get the road that he's went and and he's matured. I'm still in on Sam Darnold.

Now, obviously, the last time we saw him, it was bad.

I think that was more so of an Aaron Glenn absolute master class,

which I don't anticipate the Rams would give him tonight.

So I'm going Sam Darnold and the Vikings.

Minus 2.5 over the Rams are nice.

Okay.

Okay.

Sam Darnold absolutely stinks is what Terry said. In the past, and that was true at that point.
Now we got new information. He's a new guy.
He's a new quarterback. I like him.
First 14-win team on the road, I like him. I think Sam would say that, actually, right? Don't you think about who he was? Don't you say, I was playing bad football.
I was a crap football player back then. You think he would say, I think so.
Yeah, I think we know as players before anybody else knows. And we hear it in the meeting rooms.
We see it on TV. And then, shit, you gotta respond.
You gotta react. You gotta learn from it.
And that's what he did. Okay.
D-Botch is with the Minnesota Vikings. Darius is very loudly with the Rams.
So is Con Man. Ty, who do you like? I'm sorry, Gumps is very loudly with the Rams.
Ty, who do you like? Seems like everyone was on the Vikings and now it's kind of starting to turn towards the Rams. Vikings are very good.
I saw it firsthand a lot of the year. I think it'll be a good night for Sam Darnold to kind of put last week to rest and let every know, hey, I am going to be a $55, $60 million quarterback next year.
I like the Vikings. I think there is a lot of money to be had for Sam Darnold, who's about to be a free agent.
Will he return to the Minnesota Vikings, maybe with a franchise tag, or will he test the market? Tone Diggs, are you rolling with the money, or are you picking the rounds?

I'm going to go with the Vikings minus the 2.5.

I'm probably going to alt-spread it to Vikings minus 12.5.

I don't know if it's going to even be close tonight.

Jeez, Tone feels good.

AJ, there's been a lot of different opinions on how this game is going to go tonight.

You are 3-2 on the weekend thus far. Congratulations to and to d butch and to that utter guy stanford steven do you go to 500 on wildcard weekend or do you go to four and two aj who do you like how do you like yeah i plan on going to four and two on wildcard weekend and i am riding with the minnesota vikings minus two and a half

i think flores you know throw some exotics at him even though i know matthew stafford's awesome he's seen everything he can make every single throw i love what he can do i think harrison smith maybe gets a pick tonight i think sam darnall gets back on track i don't have the recency bias as much i'm not worried too much about what happened um last time he took the field so give me the Vikings. Okay.
I love that. Also love the fact that this game's being played in Phoenix.
Glendale? Is that where it's at? Is AQ going? AQ should go. Do the coin toss, maybe.
They might do the coin toss. They said the tickets were going like hotcakes if D-Bone was in a drive-thru.
Wow. That's fast.
They said these tickets were flying out there, and I don't know if it's just Los Angeles people who have had to evacuate, and once again, we can't stress enough how sorry and devastated we all feel for what you guys have gone through. That is...
Some of those pictures, before and after pictures, are just like devastated. I don't even know how you even get back or what is the even thought of potentially getting back.
But Phoenix hosting that is going to be wonderful. And remember, the turf is going to be pristine because that thing rolls itself outside and then it comes right back in to get Walter.
It's going to be a magical night in Phoenix for this last game of the super wildcard weekend. But I disagree with Bubba Gumpino.
I think Sam

Donald spins it tonight. I think Justin Jefferson goes

crazy. I think he got the jitters out at the right time,

which is the last game of the season for

the Minnesota Vikings. There's some Minnesota Vikings fans

that I've talked to that have

given up hope on this Vikings team. They said,

this is the team. We knew this was the team.

Even though they won 14, I don't love that

at all. I will take the Vikings minus two and a half.
Even though I love Matthew Stafford, I appreciate Matthew Stafford. I love Ustu, Pukanapua.
I love Cooper Cup. I love that young D-line.
But I like the Minnesota Vikings tonight to win. I think they're going to get it done.
And boys, I believe that is if you can see what I can see.

It's a little bit of a dark arena.

There's people peering out of shadows.

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

Can you show what is just baffling at us right now?

Look at that.

Holy shit.

Yeah, kind of a horse head. you sharky oh we got a little uh shj sharky uh ceramic mug we got a sharky mug be careful he looks hungry holy shit that's a hungry hungry shot oh they got a coat.
Oh, shit. This is pretty nice.
That's a nice letterman, too. They got an incredible Paisan, young Paisan, playing for that team.
Yeah, but they stink not as bad as they stunk last year, though, right? That's some young guys. You guys are back.
You're back this year. Put that on.
This is a good coat. Put that thing on.
It's his mouth moving. Put that on.
It's kind of like a horse head. Do you have a.
Very much so. Two Ricks.
Where's the. Are his teeth sharp? Can you feel those gump? Oh, it's in the back.
It's in the back. I forgot.
That's where. His fin.
I think you said he's going to eat. Oh, you kick.
You kick good. Field goal.
You guys need to be scoring goals, though.

Buzzes.

Whoa.

Whoa.

Gordon Bomb.

Oh, he's making it rain on you.

Thank you, Sharky.

Hey, Sharky.

He's very nice. Are you Sharky? Thank you, Sharky.

Holy shit. They suck.

Tell them we said they suck.

What's that, Sharky?

These guys say you suck, Sharky.

You want me to put the jersey on?

Thank you, Sharky They suck Tell them we said they suck What's that, Sharky? These guys say you suck, Sharky No You want me to put the jersey on? Sharky Jeez What's the record? What's the record again here for the Sharks? It's not good Pure shite Golden Knights have beat them like 10 times this year It's 10 shite and more shite Plus 200 on the money line Hey, they're saying the Sharks are shite That's what they're saying in my ear right now. Yeah, you don't have ears.
Okay. Holy shit.
You see that muscle, boys? Jeez. That's a Necton mentality, bro.
I will say, I mean, even though they are shite, this is a zany mascot. I'm a fan.
Shark, he's got the jute. He's very zany.
Shark, he's got the jute. The thing about's got the dude.
The merch is the gear is clean. It needs to be because the team fucking sucks.
Oh, what happened to his mask? Oh, okay. I don't like the Finn logo, I'll be honest.
I like the old shark logo like he's got on his chest. Which one? I don't love this.
This is like a whale on this. No, the one on Sharky's chest.
Thank you, Sharky. That was very's chest Thank you, Sharky You're a good man, Sharky Team might not be good, but you're great The zaniest shark I like the fin on the back No number, though This reminds me of a whale watch It's the old orca It looks like an orca It does, i mean they've changed that haven't they yeah no wonder they're shite yeah they're not that bad they're getting better boy a whale tank they got some good young talent who i heard about a paisano they said sharks are like plus 200 to plus 300 every night you bet them on the money line you'll make some money thank you sharkies shark you do that's a hungry they gave me a jersey it's a very kind of name they even gave me a strap they even gave me the strap thing oh yeah yeah i don't think it's gonna fit it's a game jersey that is a good tart oh yeah i'm in a good spot boys i'm a good spot was the coach of the guy that went against gordon bombay wolf the dentist this is the code yeah this is the coat he used to wear.
Yeah. Team I'm sorry.
SJS. That's real.
Shite Junior Shite. He's out of Stan's foot.
I don't think that's what it was. San Jose Santos.
It's a good coach. Could be the San Jose Shite boys.
Would they beat Utah Hockeyite what they actually just lost three nights ago they lost 2-1 to Utah yeah you want to talk about shite oh Utah what about the pens are the pens still shite or no they were they had a bad weekend but they've been playing good lately before that what they're good they good. They're in the playoffs.
You know who's is? We're in the playoffs. They're lurking.
One of the worst teams in hockey is the Broadway Blue Shirts. The New York Rangers absolutely stink.
Sorry about it, Bruce. Sorry about it.
Hey, Bruce, a lot of Giants shout-outs this weekend from the field pass. I don't know if you got a chance to hear any of those.
Yeah, no, I did. Yeah, it's tough times.
Michael Strahan is taking shots now, too. But, you know, we've turned the game.
What did he say? What did he say? Yeah, he was saying, like, oh, we let Xavier McKinney walk and Saquon walk, and they're, you know, lighting it up on a wild card Sunday. But, you know, I'm kind of over it, happy for Saquon now that he gets to live with a great offensive line.
You guys are the Pittsburgh Pirates. You guys are the Pittsburgh Pirates.
That's cool, isn't it, to watch your guys go succeed? No, it sucks. No, yeah, it's fun.
Come on, Malik Nabors was having fun watching the commanders. Yeah, he's watching his guys succeed.
It's fun. He was, like, dapping them up mid up mid game.
All the Giants are down like 21 points. So, you know, yeah, it's great.
It's all good. Tell me how that LSU team didn't win with neighbors Thomas and Jaden Daniels.
Riddle me that. There's an answer.
Yeah, two words. It's why Notre Dame's in the national championship.
Somebody said, Somebody said, I mean, I got to get this out there. Somebody tweeted yesterday that he's barely a good college ball coach.
Come on. Marcus Freeman? Who said that? Who? Yeah.
One of the last two coaches coaching? What was said? Omar Kelly. So there was.
Oh, this is Miami Dolphins beat reporter yeah this is omar kelly so the chicago bears report came out about marcus freeman omar kelly quote tweet and said he's barely a good college ball coach i mean the guy marcus freeman's unbelievable notre dame's in the national championship he's only been a college coach for a little bit though i think it's probably what he was talking about like he just started in career, potentially. Omar Kelly has given us a lot of information.
I know I agree with what you're saying, D-Butch, but I think he's probably saying just started in his entire thing. Guy has no idea what head coach is.
I'm not agreeing with him at all. I just think, you know, Gumpy potentially reads tweets as if they are personally attacking him.
And sometimes that's not... Well, D-Butch actually sent me the tweets.
knew D-Butch knew I just sent it to D-Butch is this real it was real we get on these planes for four and a half hours and I'll tell you what this question the is this question is gone. Because everything is real.
And it's like, boom. This morning, by the way, on the flight, 48 degrees in that plane.
Yeah, it was an icebox. Absolute icebox.
So cold. I had three blankets on.
Three blankets on. Couldn't go up to the front, though, and ask them to turn it up because there's been a little bit of a thing between me and the pilots.
It a little bit of a thing because the pilots all live in florida okay so these pilots you know when they come up pick us up in the cold they want to heat up this plane because of how you know they don't like the cold at all you know tennessee going up to columbus but i get on a plane i'm sweating i'm like excuse me can we cool this fucking we cool this thing down and they're like it's really cold i was i'm like i know but we need to you know i'm sweating i don't want to be sweating you know it's there has to be a happy medium so now there's a little bit of a standoff so i think today was like uh is that right to us i think that's what it was i couldn't i could not adjust it i pressed that button a hundred times it did not buy so there's no there's no way i was going up there to you know because there's i can't give up any leverage right now i can't't give up anything. It was so cold.
You could see our breath in there. You could see our breath in the plane.
It was awesome. It was great.
I slept like that. First time ever sleeping.
Just passed out. Whoa.
Three blankets on top. Foxy, three hours.
It was nice, wasn't it? It was nice, wasn't it? Good, yeah. Yeah, I watch you bums sleep on the plane all the time yeah are so entitled and spoiled they get on a private plane let's go to sleep let's not enjoy this at all one time and then all of a sudden i did it connor i want to let you know snoozy mixed so you were two feet away from me.
You were snoring in my ear. I knew that's what it was.
I was like, fuck, I was definitely snoring. I knew it.
Right in the ear. It was awesome.
No, it's been fantastic traveling around. But, yeah, I think I might have been exhausted this morning.
I think there's a chance. But I'll tell you what, I need to start doing that more often.
You guys are right. It is pretty good.
It is wake up on the other side be like we're here holy hell what it's like a time machine it was like a time machine this morning skip all the turbulence it's like blocking out without booze bingo no angle well said none well time drop oh I need so let's keep that thing at 47 degrees uh maybe I'm just gonna let it go he's fine you was so cold. Walked in.
I didn't give it away, though, to the pilots. Could not.
It's a good group. Okay, we'll be out of here.
We'll be back tomorrow. Raw tonight on Netflix.
Wild card game on ESPN. I can't wait for all of it.
We'll be back tomorrow with Aaron Rodgers. What do you think he's gonna say what's going on yeah i mean i know he's going through situations out there with the fires everything i don't know who knows where he's oh yeah what he's doing sounds like everybody's evacuated is that there's like mandatory evacuations in a lot of areas i don't know like who is like is there there's got to be certain spots where it's voluntary where some parts of the neighborhood leave and some don't i don't has anything contained yet have we heard anything i don't know that every time they show a map i just think it's the hope like yeah what hasn't been hit almost is like more of a question they're showing entire i'm seeing everything's helicopter footage of like picking up the big buckets of water from people's pools and stuff like have we gotten water there yet are we have we figured any of that out i have no idea but and hopefully and i know that's a big that's a huge thing that can't be happening in our united states of america in 2025 who are we what are we let's make sure we're taking care of all of that type of stuff but those helicopters turn that son sideways spraying that water how about those planes the can Canadian planes that are on top of water and they're scooping up thousands of gallons of water? That's what they always use for those forest fires in Alberta.
They're incredible, man. Because you can't go too deep in there.
You crash. But you've got to skim enough to grab water.
It is like, how did this become an idea? All of a sudden, you're, what, 40,000 pounds heavier, too, and he's trying to get back out of there. Like, those dudes, I would not want to ride on that.
Incredible work by all of the sudden you're what 40 000 pounds heavier too and he's trying to take back get back out of there like i those dudes i would not want to ride on that incredible work by all of the first responders and firefighters although we're not seeing it all but yeah here was the i think that is the canadian oh i forget the number see something canadian where it just scoops up water on the bottom of it and if we're using ocean water from the the begin with, I don't think I understand any of it, but I hope it gets taken care of for the sake of everybody. We'll be back tomorrow.
Can't thank you all enough for allowing us to do this for a living. We were talking about that a lot with the Field Pass, where we were able to stand on the sideline of these games, these massive games.
It's the dumbest life of all time. We're lucky to do it.
Gumps, you look so cool. It's a cool it's good coat you look like a sharky pal awesome yeah it was really cool to see the uh that's the most emotion i've ever seen out aj hawk on the uh touchdown at the end that was that was awesome pure joy from aj hawk it was legitimately h and then jack sawyer throwing up your hand signal right in your face that was cool yeah i texted with him about that a a little bit.
His little celebration. Was he texting Jack Sawyer? Whoa, this guy.
It's an old school throwback that he threw out there. I haven't seen it in a long time.
I haven't done it in a long time. He is a throwback.
What was he, two years old when you were doing that? He was zero. He wasn't born.
No way. But that's the thing about him.
He feels like he would have been. You know, it feels like he would have been around.
They were dipping and ripping the edges all night. Oh, yeah.
They were. Him and JTT, like their D-line.
Yeah, their defense is humming. AJ, talk about the blocking.
You lost your mind for the boys blocking back here. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. I had a whole conversation with all of us.
But, yeah, how his guys had the awareness to turn back and look. Because, look, there's one guy that could probably catch him.
And you see Sonny Stiles right there. Puts his arms up.
I'm not going to clip him. Here we go.
Just continue to get in his way and know that somebody is back there. There's always like a little, there's always a wide out or a running back chasing that's going to probably catch a D lineman or whoever has the ball.
Have some awareness and just set a pick. That's all you got to do.
Don't just, I hope you see four guys none of them look back and all of a sudden a guy squirts through them and tackles the guy in the 10. Right, just celebrate.
And there was a moment where you've done that before, right? And you felt pretty proud of yourself if you would like to elaborate. Will Allen, whoever.
Yeah, one of my favorite moments of my football life. Just blocking for one of my teammates.
I turned around. I was running.
Running. Can't keep up because this guy, Will Allen, I forget whoever it was, was so fast.

And I sit there.

I turn around.

I see somebody.

Give him a little point.

And then I get, as I push him, I like fall into the end zone as I'm pushing the guy.

And I thought, man, that was a heady play by me.

I'm glad I did that. Smart player.

I'm glad I did that.

Yeah.

Hey, there's no way I was going to catch him, but he might have.

This little guy would have definitely outran me and got up there. I'm glad I turned around That is heady football That's heady football Okay let's do these overreactions and let's hit the road Shall we? Every single morning On Mondays I put out a tweet And we don't have many of these left So let's make sure we enjoy all these I said hey football fans, not just NFL fans, because the CFP semifinals were so electrifying and so many decisions were made, just football fans as a whole.
Why don't you utilize this tweet as a therapy sesh? Why don't you go ahead and put a tweet out and air some of your grievances or maybe your thoughts, whether they're good or they're bad. All you're going to have to use in the tweet is...
Hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but... All right, we don't want to overreact, but let's ride the wave of football fans from around the globe.
This one's from Con Man. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but...
Football this weekend made me miss watching my team in meaningful playoff games so much. That's exactly why Mike Frable being hired to New England is such a monumental day in Patriots history.
Hard hats, lunch pails, and cigs are here. Pats are back.
Pats are back. Pats are back.
That's how you feel, huh? I think that's how all of us feel, Connor. Yeah, it feels fantastic, and obviously a lot still has to happen, all that free agency bullshit and combine stuff that, you know, will be needed for the team to be better, but just Vrabel in general, being the coach is so much hope, like the press conferences that were being kind of recycled from when he was with Tennessee, so awesome.
He just takes no shit, and then like you referenced the Taylor LeJuan video, like they're just going to be a tough team. And that's something you can get behind.
And then seeing the games this weekend, it really did kind of remind me of when the Patriots were playing in games like that. And not even wildcard weekend.
Usually it was divisional or conference championship. But just wanting to have your team be in the playoffs again is something that I think Mike Vrabel gives a lot of hope for for all of New England.
Congratulations to see you guys. We're bummed out when you didn't get to enjoy it for what? Three years.
Okay. Let's go to the next one, shall we? It's from Ty and Diggs.
Hashtag I don't want to overreact, but I'd commit war crimes for Josh Allen to be my quarterback. You name it.
I'll do it. Ty and I don't think you're the only one or only team or only city that feels that way, pal.
Yeah. I mean, waterboarding, dirty.
You want me to drop a dirty bomb on a small town? I'll do it. It's fine.
Chemical weapons, I don't care. If you don't have a quarterback in the NFL, you're fucked.
You certainly are. You certainly are.
No doubt. And starting to realize that pretty heavily, pretty pretty hard and Josh Allen is just my cup of tea he's got some seven in him he could also run like a son of a bitch something about him that you trust I would love to have Josh Allen on my football team you're not the only one we'd all love to have Josh Allen as our quarterback, I think, as we go forward.
Can Buffalo win one with him? We shall see. Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, do battle next weekend.
Let's go to the next overreaction, shall we? This one's from Buddy McGuy. E&R, hashtag I don't want to overreact.
But the entire city of Pittsburgh is disgusted, embarrassed, but not shocked. This entire Steelers roster needs drowned in the mawn and left to rot.
Some say if you listen quietly, you can still hear Derrick Henry clapping the Steelers' defense's cheeks. Jeez Louise! Tyler, it sounds like McGuy was echoing your McSentiments.
Yeah, I think that's the sentiments of basically every single Steelers fan in the country. You guys were telling me, hey, you know, be positive.
You guys are in the playoffs. We knew.
We knew what was going to happen because it's the same fucking thing every goddamn year. And we'll do it again next year because, like I said earlier, nothing's going to change.
Just the effort. The effort was the most surprising and shocking and disappointing and embarrassing part of that football game.
Old Buddy said he's packing dip tins and cigs on you guys. That's what Old Buddy said there again where he was doing to your defense.
Messed up. He was.
He was clapping them. He did.
Jeez. Could have done whatever he wanted he wanted.
They said he was right up the middle. He could do whatever he wanted because we decided, Hey, you put three, four guys wherever Derek's not.
That'll work. Pittsburgh Steelers fans excited that their team has made the playoffs yet again.
That's good. In the dance.
In the dance. In the dance.
One more week of football. One more week of joy.
A lot of people go to the one more week of football 10 more double yoys is what's happening in pittsburgh let's get the next overreaction shall we kevin davis at kevin underscore underscore underscore camacho because kevin underscore camacho washtag I don't want to overreact. But.
But. Should have been disqualified there.
Yeah. Double but.
The way the Eagles played yesterday, they will be gone next week. Heart sucks, please, for the love of football.
God's bench, Jalen Hurts. And put in that dog Tanner McKee.
Oh, by the way, this is a better cheese head than that fucking yellow shit the Packers wear. Ty, what was this all about? Where did this come from? And did a lot of people call for Tanner McKee to be playing football next week? Not a lot of people called for Tanner McKee.
A lot of people saying Jalen Hurts stinks, though, and that the Eagles can't win any more games because he just isn't the guy. And I was rather surprised by that.
Because Hurts looks pretty good at the start of the game. He didn't play great in the second and third quarters.
But I was shocked as many fans were saying, hey, this guy stinks. We're fucked because he's going to be starting next week.
They're calling him Jalen stinks. That's rude.
Wow. I think he's a guy who's won them a lot of games.
I think throughout his life he's won a lot of football games. Keep doing your thing, Jalen.
Good luck out there. Hell yeah.
Good luck out there. He's got donged in the head.
He's coming off a concussion. Yeah, bingo.
Big donged in the head. Two-week donged in the head.
16-day donged in the head. I mean, that's a little different.
He's worked the rust out, obviously. They're going to do their thing going forward.
The Eagles are such an interesting team because if they don't win the Super Bowl, it's going to be loud regardless. They win another game, who cares? They win another game, who cares? They lose in the Super Bowl.
Philadelphia's going to be loud about that team as a whole. Jalen doesn't have to do much.
Their defense is unbelievable. Lights out.
So good. Lights out.
Blankenship flies around. We were talking about that.
Sure tackling. Yeah, sure tackling.
He is exciting, isn't he?

He is very exciting white, but they lost to Kobe Dean for the rest of the playoffs.

I think he had a patella injury, and he has been a dog this year alongside of Zach Bond.

They had some tackling issues once he left the game, too, as far as leverage-wise go.

But I think definitely overreaction with Jalen Hurts.

But losing a key contributor like that on defense, still a bunch of dogs over there. But I think the Eagles will be just fine.
Any exciting whites creeping their way into the all-everything DB postseason team? You know what? Cooper DeJean, he hit the ground running next year like he did from – Next year? What? There's not a postseason team? No. Layoff team? Oh.
You know what? There will be a postseason team. Okay.
team. It's only one game, so I guess the guys who continue to play.
Because Durbin James, he had a great game, but they're out. That's Sertan.
Maybe we'll do that. Sertan didn't have a go.
He didn't have a go. Maybe Gonzo should have been first.
Gonzo, Cabo right now. But yeah, postseason.
I like that. There's a lot of teams in Cabo talking shit this week.
I wasn't there. Yeah Everybody's paying attention to football.
I like that. Let's go to another overreaction Shall we this one's from absolute scoundrel at Bengali card Hashtag I don't overreact Todd Monken better not fuck this up like last year in the AAC championship.
Run the ball. Derrick Henry's the X-Factor going in the next round against the Bills.
The Ravens don't need Lamar Jackson to prove he has to out-duel Josh Allen. Hashtag run it.
Remember against the Chiefs last year, that was the big flaw. Baltimore Ravens refused to run the ball.
Also, ball got punched out at the half-yard line in an incredible play by Justin Reed. Now, I think they understand that lesson.
I think they've learned that lesson, D. Bunch.
They're running the rock. At the beginning of the year, I don't think they were believers.
Remember, Harbaugh said, you don't run the ball with Derrick Henry 20 times a game at this stage to win it. Yes, you do.
This dude's unbelievable to watch.

And him and Lamar Jackson is a tag team with Ricard out there and likely

and Andrews and the amount of meat they got on that offensive line,

let alone the outside weapons.

That offense is tough to stop, but they got to run the rock.

Old buddy's right.

Got to run the rock.

And I think Lamar, I feel like he's hit the over on his own Russian prop

every week since his mom cussed him out.

So I think Todd Monk will get it right. He'll run the ball.
But also, you've got to be able to pass the ball, especially down this time of year. I think it'll be an all-hands-on-deck situation when you're going to battle with the Buffalo Bills, and then you would assume probably the Chiefs in the next round.
Okay, I love that they'll be able to continue to run the rock, hopefully. And you're right.
Lamar's mom said, hey, let's start running the ball. Speaking of running the ball, Tone, how come that RPO hasn't worked like that every time the Ravens play against you guys? Why don't they do it like that all the time? Traditionally, the Steelers would just run TJ Water, whoever's the end, directly at Lamar and then make the running back do something.
Now, in the past, they didn't have Derrick Henry. That's probably the biggest difference

now in these games, the last couple

games, where they have had the success because I believe

Derrick has gone over 170 in the last

two games against the Steelers.

He's the X Factor at his Bengali

cards. Let's go to another reaction, shall we?

Ty, there was a lot of them. One up to the

number one trend in the United States, right, if I'm not mistaken?

Yes, it did. Today was prime.

Prime time. It's the playoffs.
Everyone was geared up and ready to go. There were a lot of good ones today.
Here we go. This one's from Josh Zimski at JoshZ1151.
This guy will do some fucking landscaping. Yeah, he will.
And some killing. I don't know if he just got done hunting or fucking murdering bushes, but Josh will go out there and get the job done.
That's either a big old rake or something special. We appreciate Josh and his hard work ethic.
Hashtag I don't want to overreact. But the Packers stink.
Got the team. Fire LaFleur.
Trade love. Eve Willis.
We would have been better off fielding a team using kids from the Green Bay Area Technical College. They shed no heart and no fight last night.
Hashtag rebuild 2025. Ty, you picked these.
This is about your team that you own. Is this how Packers fans are feeling? I thought we were about a year away.
I didn't know we were gutting the whole thing and starting over again with Malik Willis. Yeah, I don't think that's going to happen.
They just paid Jordan Love $55 million, so I think it's safe to say he will be sticking around. A lot of people want him to be traded or cut or whatever.
The floor thing is interesting because all year we were talking about how good he was doing, you know, scheming up the offense and especially winning with Malik Willis when Jordan Love wasn't healthy. But he kind of just doesn't show up in big games.
Hasn't in the last couple years. Seems to get outcoached quite a bit.
And again, I said it in the first hour. It sucks when they waste that good of a defensive effort.
Because those are so few and far between. But yeah, there's three or four position groups that they need to spend some money.
They're going to have money for the first time in a long time because Rodgers' contract is finally off the books. So I don't think they're going to be gutting the team.
I think it's safe to say that they're probably just going to – I mean, again, you can make as many excuses as you want. They're still the youngest roster in the NFL.
So hopefully one more year and love not thinking

he has to throw a 90-yard touchdown

every single time he drops back to pass.

That probably served him pretty well next year.

Alright, alright, good. That would be maturity.

Maturity, that happens as you go. Last time

Packers won a Super Bowl, what, they had a top-five

defense or something like that? That's just that.

That was the last time they had a top-five defense

as well, I think.

That guy was later.

Had some monsters up front, some monsters in the back end that guy dumps yeah and in the blue dog point Adam dumps Jack sore you jumps got it there we go. Nailed it.
I'm scared. Yep.
All right. All right.
You did it. You did it.
You nailed it. You nailed it.
It was that guy, though. It was Auger.
Oh, H. I-O.
Of course. Oh, yeah.
Remember, he left one. He circled back.
I circled back. I circled back.
Yeah, smart. We're in the middle of a fucking national championship run.
Let's not leave any duck from the pond. Four more quarters.

Four more quarters.

That's right.

Four more games.

Now we're down to four more quarters.

What do the boys got?

Captain Jack and boys ready to go.

Let's go to another overreaction, shall we?

It's from JTB at JTB1012.

Looks like he's a Texans fan.

Hashtag I don't want to overreact.

But.

I was wrong.

CJ Fraud.

Nah, dummy. CJ Straud.
He is the next big thing. And this Texans defense swarming.
Herbie had four interceptions. Four.
His worst game of his career. Hey, we coming for the Chiefs.
We slaying the Dragons, says JTB. I'd like to have a conversation with him in real life.
Sounds like he's bit electrifying we we doing this we doing that do we feel like that's accurate age we think the texans and maybe have a chance to go on a run maybe go slay the dragon that is the back-to-back super bowl champions over there in arrowhead well i would imagine if they would find a way to beat the chiefs in the chief's house then yeah that would give them the momentum the boost the juice that they need to make a run, but I just don't see them beating the Chiefs here. I think the Chiefs

coming off the bye, we had Trav on

earlier, like those guys seem to be doubting. They were

in full pads last week, they'll be in full pads again

this week, like Andy Reid, I don't think

will let those guys relax or feel comfortable

ever. Okay, we're excited

to see if that's true. Let's go to another

overreaction, shall we? This is from

Christian Boy Hamilton at Hamilton Pro 4. This guy's a fucking pro.
Bolton. Go Boat.
Go Boat. Go Boat.
Go Boat. Go Boat.
Hashtag I don't overreact. But Liam Cohen should be named Bucs head coach by the time the program has gone live.
He brought this team back to life while Bowles has been slowly killing it for years now. We narrowly win our shanked division every year just for that mindless idiot to fuck it up.
What? What is he talking about? A couple fumbles, a little mispeed case for his center and quarterback. Mike Evans won ham yesterday.
It's fun to watch him do his thing. But yeah, they lose a playoff game at home.
The only one of the weekend. Third and six.
Game on the line. Only sent three.
Bulls always die sending the blitz. And I don't know what happened there, but he was wide open across the middle.
Yeah. Yeah.
I would like to be the person that just, you know, states the obvious, which I think Kyle Brandt was trying to do yesterday with Lil Wayne.

He'd think he could have done it a little different way,

but the way he did it is I've not watched enough of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

this year to understand if Todd Bowles has fucked this one up or not.

But Mike Evans got in 1,000 yards.

His halftime interview didn't do him any favors.

What did he say?

He was talking about left and right,

and he didn't really know what was going on. It was tough.
It was a bunch of gibberish. Clock management.
It was a bunch of gibberish. What, they're saying they're the Succaneers? Is that what they're saying? That's what they're saying.
Man, that's not cool. I like the Buccaneers.
That's a good name. Baker had a great ram truck.
What? Baker did ram truck Bobby Wagner. Yeah, legit.
He ram trucked Bobby Wagner, Baker did. Would Collinsworth call him all night? A disruptor? Who? Collinsworth continued to come back to what he called Baker a disruptor, I believe, or something like that.
He actually made Tariko say it one time. He said, because he is the...
And they paused for like three seconds. Trigger said, disruptor? I don't know if it'm not disruptor or not was that was a word like that How about Tariqa losing his shit when I kick goes in I mean he was He was going bonkers boy.
Hey way to show that we like that to Rico We like a little The next overreaction shall we got two left this one's from at gjn at gjn 15 hashtag I don't want to overreact, but This Chargers team got exposed sure Herbert had the worst game of his career But it doesn't help when his supporting cast or a bunch of circus clients and get that fat So Greg roving off the team on the next year hashtag bolt up I think on the next year is the right idea. I think they were ahead of schedule here.
They got rid of a lot of people. Culture is implemented.
I love what they are doing down there in Los Angeles. Legitimately for the Chargers.
Can't wait to see what they do next year. And last overreaction here from Jack Lau at Logiak6.

Hashtag I don't overreact.

But the Commanders are a team of destiny this year.

And the doink heard around the world. Encapsulated it.
Commander in clutch Jaden Daniels. Put the cape on again last night.
And showed why. He's the rookie of the year.
Time to bite kneecaps on Saturday night man. Hashtag raise hail.
You think about the Hail Mary deflection? You think about the doink in to win in wildcard weekend? You think about the change of ownership? Maybe it is the football god saying, hey, this team has been starving. This fan base has been yearning for this since they were named the football team? No.
Before that. I don't remember before that oh yeah yeah yeah the redskins this team has been yearning for that and they're getting it they are fun to watch jayden is immaculate and the new ownership seemingly representing in a fashion of uh we're going all in here to win and their fans deserve it all right we're gonna get the hell out of.
Cookie and Magic are going to be there on Saturday night as well. And Detroit's going back home.
Yeah, back in Michigan for Cookie and Magic. Heard the announcement.
So that's going to be taking place. Commanders are rolling, as are any team that is still alive in the playoffs, both in the NFL and college.
And tonight, will it be Minnesota or will it be Los Angeles? We shall see. All right, we can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living.
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We don't know what day of the week it is We have no idea what is next But we do know that the moment that we're in, we're the luckiest group of dumbass motherfuckers on earth. Thank you all so much for allowing us to do this for a living.
Let's continue to enjoy the ride because we have no idea what's going to happen tomorrow. Be a friend.
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AJ, thank you for traveling. D-Bot, see you tomorrow.
Boys, see you tomorrow. Hell yeah.
Good luck tonight. Yeah, crush it.

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