PMS 2.0 1268 - NFL Week 17 Preview/Picks, Thursday Night Football Recap, Nick Saban, Kyle Van Noy, & AJ Hawk

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our Holly Jolly, Humble the Boat, the Thunderdome, on this Feel Good Friday, December 27th, 2024. This program starts now.
Football! It's wonderful. We're so lucky that we get to talk about it every single day, although last night was a crowd ball.
Ooh. Last night, for the first time since? 1980.
On Thursday night, football, nine points or less was scored. You're talking about absolute crop.
You're talking about dumpster football. You're talking about shite.
You're talking about a little bit of a run here that football has had in prime time and when the only game is on at a time of just being absolute crop and devastating to watch and impossible to stay awake for. Because last night, if you were able to stay up until the fourth quarter, Caleb Williams actually had the boys on a roll.
Yeah. Got them in the first and ten on a 40 with about two minutes left and somehow didn't gain a single yard to get them into field goal range.
They were on the fringe of field goal range. That thing ends fourth and ten with an interception happening live from his 40.
And the Seattle Seahawks walk out of Chicago with a win and still very much in it.

Keenan Allen, go fight for your quarterback here.

Come on.

Come on.

Jeez Louise.

That cemented a 6-3 matchup, a 6-3 win for the Seattle Seahawks,

and now they're very much still alive in the NFC West battle.

They got the Rams next week that they will obviously be preparing for

and a huge playoff implicator.

But with that being said about how football – yeah, this is staring us down over there. Oh, wow.
How will the LA Rams fare against the Cardinals team that hit or miss? Yeah. Hit or miss.
Eliminated. Have a chance to be good.
Had a chance to be great this year. Maybe about a year out, we'll say, for the Cardinals.
Now, have we been saying that for a few years for the Cardinals sure certainly but the way gannon has that team operating the way tyler's playing they were seemingly going this way and then they fell into that where the cardinals stuff a little bit we think next year they'll be able to boom bust right through that but in this particular case los angeles rams should be able to win that game then it's all down to seahawks rams last week of the year they're not the only one. There's a lot of games in week 18 that have a lot of playoff implications on the line.
There's a lot of things on the horizon. There's three games tomorrow for the NFL.
Oh, yeah, that's right. There's a full slate on Sunday.
So whenever we say, like, hey, these games have been absolute crap, last night... Absolute shite.
The worst. So bad.
Is it time for hibernation? It was for us when we were watching that game. We tried our absolute best.
There was even a phenomenal bowl game happening. One half of the hammer.
Done. Cowboys AP tone.
That bowl game was... 68 Ventures Bowl last night.
Which... Arkansas State won the game.
Yep. Bowling Green won the highlight tone.
What happened? So, Bowling Green came on the field to punt. They tr they trotted their punter out but wait was it their punter or was it their backup third string quarterback who came on and throw an absolute people were like holy shit this punter threw an absolute seed even the broadcast said the punter turns out they snuck their third string quarterback on in basically the same uniform that their punter has been wearing

all season long with the high white socks, the tucked-in jersey, all of that.

They made him look like it.

He had number 18 on versus the punter's number 19.

Normally the third-string quarterback, Barron May,

normally wears number eight all season long.

So this was a ruse.

This was a ruse, a master craft.

This was a subterfuge.

An act of subterfuge right there.

This is what it was. So changes his number to be 18 because the normal punter wears 19.
Puts the whole punter costume on, wristband things, high tights. We're doing this whole thing out there.
Jogs out there. And, you know, I think they probably had a read on a pooch punt there.
Okay. On the, yep, there we go.
On the pooch punt. They probably had a read that the corners would bail after a certain distance because they don't want to get a penalty.
Hey, we're going to fair catch this thing. Punt safe.
Corners bail on Gunners. Okay, just kind of, yep, all right, let them run.
There, we're not going to do anything here. Yep, let them get out of the way.
Boom. That was the perfect read on them.
So as soon as he bails, that ball's coming right over his shoulder. Them having the punter not in, quarterback in, and dressing him up like, brilliant.
Makes you think, has anybody ever done this before? Well, allegedly, due to the studying that happened from the internet after this play went mega viral, because it was a dime in bowl season, obviously, it's just taking place. The Cow Bears did this with Jared Goff, I guess.
Yes. Whenever Jared Goff was on the Cal, had him change his number to the exact number that the pointer was wearing.
Because in college, you can have two people with the same number. They just can't be on the field at the same time.
So this has been something that's taken place before. I love college ball.
I love that this took place. And that was the whole highlight of the night.
I mean, that is the highlight for football of the night. And whenever you think about all the crap that there's been, that just tells us that water has to find its level.
Bingo. Has to.
You know what's on the horizon, boys? What's that? In the most important time of the year, we're about to have the best ball. By far.
Starting tomorrow with three games. Yeah.
All three of them have playoff implications. They're going to be bangers.
Triple decker. Okay, I know on Christmas there was a couple blots, and Pittsburgh was in it there for a bit against Kansas City Chiefs.
Inevitably, they ended up pulling away, and the Ravens smashed the Texans. And then you go to this game last night, and it's crap, and you think to yourself, why am I spending my time doing this? It's like, because these three are going to be amazing.
That's what the law of averages tells us. How long has that been around, Ty Schmidt? You got into Harvard.

The law of averages? It's a long,

long, long time. Boom.
So that means

all the crop has gotten out of the way. That means everything

is going to have to go. Just like this year, we

were either beating the sportsbook or the sportsbook was

beating us. And we thought it was going to

go that way all season. Uh-uh.

It came back. Beginning of this year, crap football.

Then a great football happened. Now

we're back to crap football. All I know is that that's going to have to change's perfect time to change we got the college football playoffs coming up we got the nfl playoffs coming up huge we got super bowl on the horizon we got the biggest time of year for football and thank god these games have been so terrible okay thank god because we're getting them out of the way that's right bingo just like the people that got sick already got the antibodies you you got out of the way congrats to you getting it done over at the toxic table at boston connor how do you feel pal i know you're battling some demons this morning weren't you oh yeah i feel pretty good you know there's nothing wrong with five six trips to the toilet in the morning sometimes you're just gonna have to get that done get it out of you but i feel great and you're talking about law of averages it's kind of making me think you know just like the patriots you know they have a couple bad years.
Yeah, you're going to have to pay the piper. Law of averages, we're going to come right back up to where we're supposed to be, which is one of the greats of the league.
And I appreciate you bringing that up, especially such a great math term, which has been around since 1870. Of course.
Law of averages. That's where I started.
Yeah, fill in the blank there. Yeah.
You know, because there has to be the dark so that the light can shine. There has to be rain for the sun to be appreciated.
Yeah. There has to be shite for there to be a great football playoff push.
Exactly. Thank God it's coming.
Yeah. Because if we got to watch what that was and what has been happening, never again.
Can't do it. Can't do it.
I went on to NFL game day, and one of my Christmas wishes was they need better schedules and slates. No doubt.
And then I talked about how networks are scared to flex games. You know, teams only get a certain amount of primetime games.
And then if those teams flex teams out, I think they're scared to piss off fan bases. I think they're scared to piss off teams.
I think they're scared to kind of ruffle any feathers. So teams are scared.
Networks don't flex as often as they could, as much as fans look ahead and go like, hey, let's get this one the hell out of here. Let's get this one the hell out of here.
Then there's other contracts, obviously, that are there, like the 4 o'clock time slot for CBS and for Fox. Can you necessarily get one of those out to go up to prime time? It's like, no, I get it.
But there has to be an availability of a game that's worth a crop at the end of the season every single weekend has to be can't project injuries sure can't project these types of things but there needs to be something each week that we can look forward to that is a good game because what has been happening has been the the christmas game and the saturday game those are four playoff teams those are supposed to be great games yeah sure can't blame them for that they The Monday night before Christmas, too. Last night happening, probably crap.
Yeah, always was going to be crap. Now, granted, you could have seen this from a mile away whenever Caleb's season isn't going how we all thought Caleb's season was going to go.
Now, granted, they wanted to showcase the number one overall pick there. Seahawks, obviously, NFC WestC West going to be in it they're a team that doesn't get talked about a lot you go back to years past couple years ago they had number one offense in the NFL nobody was really talking about them they're always seemingly in it they kick Pete Carroll out of the door they're still in it so like I could see how projection schedule wise could be a good game but then early on you see that it's not going to be and then you stick the Chicago the Chicago Bears have now lost 10 straight games.
Jeez. And we were forced to watch them in primetime.
10 straight games. We could see this coming.
We could actually see this entire Crop Bowl game coming up for a few months now. A few months.
We've been able to see that this was coming and it still took place. Now, Bears could have won that game, which is why football is great.
Football will always be worthy of a watch. Whenever football is at its worst, it's better than watching most things.
Now, professional wrestling can catch it. Professional wrestling at its finest is better than any live sport that could take place.
But football, whenever it's humming, is so awesome to watch. And I think that's why we all tune in.
These numbers are gigantic that the NFL is getting. These ratings, obviously 24.1.1 24.3 million allegedly on netflix now those are self-reported numbers from netflix because they're a streaming platform i believe nielsen said that that's what it was but i don't know how nielsen would have to hack into netflix i don't know how that entire thing works they have an alleged agreement of course they do yeah all the numbers make sense nonetheless 24 million for those two up to like 60 some 65 million total viewers absolute smash smashing success is how all parties would view that game then i think there was reports coming out that these have been the highest ratings since 2016 for like all these things and we all remember uh what happened after 2016 uh what or 2016 was uh the national anthem and then the kneeling.
And then I remember during that time, there was a lot of people in big media that were like, it's not the national anthem that's causing the ratings to drop. And it's like out here in middle America was there were signs hanging off of people's houses.
They were saying, like, don't watch the NFL. Now, granted, I think some good conversations came out of that entire thing.
I think there was obviously good that came for that entire situation, but the ratings definitely took a hit for a long time. And then they get all the way back, and then the game is crap.
It's like, at some point, you would hope that they'll be able to match up. Like, everybody loves football openly and proudly, and the games kind of get to a point that are must-watch.
I think that's on the horizon. I think that's what we have going forward because we have way too many great players.
Way too many great players. I saw this stat this morning from Hembo about Lamar Jackson.
You know what he's doing right now? What's that? Historic stuff. He has the second-highest quarterback passer rating in a season since they've been documenting the QBR.
That thus far obviously has a game remaining. Number one and three are both Aaron Rodgers.
And obviously you see the rush yards underneath. These are from the incomparable Hembo.
Lamar has rushed for 852 yards on top of having a 121.6 quarterback rating. Okay, passer rating.
Aaron Rodgers obviously won for 257. He could move.
He could move. Aaron goes for 149 and then Peyton goes for 38 yards accidentally.
We don't even even know how that happened we don't even know so whenever you think about what lamar jackson is doing right now just lamar in baltimore and then you think he's not even a favorite to win the mvp and then you think these two are going to run into each other then you got patrick mahomes still existing once we get a lot of the league out which is why i think the playoffs are gonna i think the playoffs are gonna be great because it's both nfc and afc seemingly top loaded and then once we get all them out we got battles coming and i think that's why law of averages since 1870 tells us a lot of the crop we've been watching is about to be a thing of the past and the nfl is going to ride in the offseason and say we had a great season because what have you done for me lately if this season was to end how it's going right now all offseason people are going to say is the nfl going to lose its ratings is the nfl going to be able to withstand everything that has happened through viewership and everything i think the nfl is going to end great but boy we've had to go through some tough times hard times brother shout to the american dream to get here well i think like in the end when you look at the playoffs we're going to get a lot of the matchups that we wanted initially. If you would have been projecting at the start of the season, the potential for Bills, Chiefs, Bills, Ravens, all that kind of stuff.
And then on the NFC side, there's a bunch of good stuff. But I think what I've noticed most about this year with all the shite games is it just underscores how important the big market teams have to be good.
Because this year, Jets, Giants, Cowboys, Bears, all and they're and yeah niners like all these big market teams when they stink because they should be able to flex games earlier but like the where it's at right now i can't i don't i don't think that's going to change i don't think they're going to say hey you can start flexing games in week seven or week six because like you said like for a lot of these games we've been able to tell for two months. We've been able to circle and be like, that game's going to suck.
And we're just going to have to eat it because when it comes, watching football is better than not watching football. Hey, Connor, let's remember, though, there's going to come a time where there's a lot of not watching football.
Yeah, no doubt about that. I was telling myself that last night.
30 different times. And you try to, but it doesn't matter.
That doesn't help you last night. I'm laying there.
Wife passed out. Sam passed out.
Just like, I can't do this one with you. She said.
Makes sense. That's smart.
Rolled. I can't do this one with you.
Rolled over. I get it.
She tapped out. TKO.
Football game over Samantha McAfee. Completely understand.
I'm laying there watching this thing. Just like it's a football game.
It's an NFL football game. This matters.
Commercial break. Oh, should I venture somewhere else? Look around.
I don't like anything else. Go back to the NFL game, I guess.
Gotta get better. Gets worse.
Oh, yeah. Caleb Williams scored a touchdown last night.

Sick.

He did.

Rolling to his left.

A Dunze.

Rookie to rookie.

Oh, my.

Nobody's talking about a Dunze, by the way.

Top 10 wide receiver.

Nobody's really talking about his year

just because everything kind of goes in Caleb,

which is good for a Dunze, I think.

Yeah.

I think it's good that a Dunze doesn't have to deal with it.

But this place, this is the Caleb shit from college

that we've been talking about.

Is it going to work in the NFL?

Well, when it does work, it doesn't because somebody was holding. This highlight came out of the game.
Yeah, also, though, in the offseason when we are thinking football, there will be an asterisk like, yeah, I wish there was a football game on except for Seattle-Chicago. Yeah, we need to remember that.
That will be one that we remember as one of the shite ones because it was primetime. Like, there's a few games like this at 1 o'clock or maybe even one sneaks into 4 o'clock.
But when it's primetime, when it's Amazon Prime, when it's on Bezos' network that we all know. We're in playoff time.
The biggest game time, yeah, exactly. And it's coming off of Christmas where we all were kind of like, why isn't there a night game? Okay, fine.
We get one the next night. Maybe this will deliver.
I think the over-under was like damn near 50. It's like 6-3 in the rain, I guess.
Is this soccer? What are we doing? Gumby, you loved that game last night. I assume that was good for the world audience last night.
No, that game was absolute shite. I was mad at myself for staying up and watching that all night.
I didn't make it. I believe the Mariners beat the White Sox or the Cubs 6-3 twice this year, so that's the third time that Seattle's beat the Chicago 6-3 this year.
Oh, so it was already written. It's a baseball game.
We watch a baseball game, is what Diggs is trying to tell you. And a soccer game.
Yeah. I mean, a 6-3 soccer game.
Hold the phone. That'd be awesome.
I'm watching that. Yeah, six shots versus three shots, actually.
Now, granted, there's Jason Myers knocking one through. Cairo Santos, can he answer? Yes, almost hits the bullseye.
Let's go through the net. It is 3-3.
Jason Myers! Ball game. Boom.
How much time is that? Second quarter. Okay.
Second quarter, 6-3. Can't have it.
Nobody was even close to scoring either. Nobody was driving.
Nobody was doing

shite. Caleb got into fringe

field goal range to tie that thing.

If that thing went to overtime, I would have broke my

TV.

Let me go to bed.

You're saying it was holding you hostage.

It was holding you hostage.

If Caleb did all his cool stuff

and they got another field goal and it was 6-6

and I had to watch 10 minutes of overtime, which inevitably would end in triple zeros and no more points and it was 6-6 tie, yeah, I would have been pretty pissed. I'd probably just be at Best Buy later tonight buying a TV.
Oh, because we stormed through that one. But maybe you get in a cold tub.
I do appreciate Fitz and Sherm trying to make it entertaining. That was sweet.
I appreciate the effort, boys, trying to make that thing happen. I also appreciated a lot of their conversations.
They were having a lot of sports talk combo on the pre-show and on the post-show. I think they do a great job.
I don't think they're too... I like the crew.
I like the Amazon crew. I think they do a good job on that particular program, and I appreciated Fitz and Sherm trying to make it entertaining.
It was nice post-game, too, that they were like, this game sucked. No one gives a shit about this game.
We don't have to talk about this at all. Let's talk about the playoffs and what we're looking for.
We have ruined people's days. Enough here.
Tell you what it did to me. I am heavily rooting for the Rams week 18, I can tell you that.
Don't want to see Hawks football in the playoffs. No, I don't want to see it.
Give me Matty Staff. Ten times out of ten than whatever it was last night.
The bowl games did deliver yesterday. I mean, Pitt-Toledo was like six overtimes.
Rutgers and K-State was an absolute banger. I think like 44-41 and then 68 Ventures.
The NFL did not come through, but the bowl games kind of did. Speaking of bowl games, SeatGeek has sent over its graphic for the average resale price for each of the four quarterfinal games.
Peach Bowl, $301. Diner, Arizona State taking on Texas.
Ohio State, Oregon over there in Rose Bowl, which we will be live from, which is so stupid to think about on ESPN2. $480, that's pretty good.
That's a pretty good price. And then Penn State, Boise, $427 down there.
Fiesta Bowl, Phoenix, Arizona is a beautiful place. Penn State will fill that place up if Boise State didn't get their people in there.
Boise State will have its people in there, though. And Fiesta Bowl, Boise State has some history.
Statue of Liberty, if you do recall. Happened at the Fiesta Bowl.
And then Notre Dame, Georgia in the Sugar Bowl. $528 average resale price.
And then semifinals tickets are going for $6.16 and $7.59, respectively, Orange Bowl and the Cotton Bowl. Use PAT2024, $30 off any ticket.
Now, there are some rules that apply, and I think the rules are if it's less than $30, they're not paying you. No.
Now, these tickets wouldn't obviously factor into that, but they have tickets for every live event that's taking place. Every single one.
It's actually kind of mind-blowing how many tickets they have to all the things. They also survived the worldwide live event stoppage because of how good the company is.
We appreciate the hell out of SeatGeek. $30 off right now for those tickets and many other things.
We got six crazy nights left of Hanukkah. Bingo.
I heard from from adam shefter that they're celebrating christmas too jewish yeah jewish people celebrate christmas so we can celebrate hanukkah we got six more nights to buy gifts for people want to buy a ticket to something and also if you do view that particular menorah there start on right work and left because that's how you read torah that's how you read torah right to left so one on far right one. Last night was night two.
And guess what's left? Six more crazy nights. And you can buy some tickets for somebody, maybe.
Yeah. Potentially from our friends at Sea Geek.
Absolutely. And with those prices, you know, absolute steal for a memory for a lifetime.
If you're going to buy a Hanukkah gift and you're a sports fan, I cannot emphasize this enough. Do not buy anything from Fanatics.
What? Do not buy anything from Fanatics

because A, you either won't get it in time

or B, you're not going to get what you ordered

or C, you're going to get kind of what you ordered.

You're going to get some guy,

if you want a Caleb Williams jersey,

they're just going to butcher the shit out of his name,

spell it wrong, put the wrong number on there.

So Fanatics, once again, is kind of you know we're talking about shite football whoa this is this is just absolute shite out of fanatics and i'm sick and tired of seeing this okay so fanatics is the merch company that has kind of taken over every single contract with every single league monopoly on yeah all all sports all sports memorabilia, pretty much. All jerseys, anything with any league.
Anything you buy from any team store for any of the major leagues is fulfilled by and goes through Fanatics. So I would assume Fanatics responds and says, we have so many things, which I think is what their statement was.
We do so many fulfillments of orders. Every once in a while, there's going to be a couple of mish mishaps i will speak from personal experience we had a merch store that we still do but we used to like really push it you know everybody pushes their merch store that's like classic digital business buy some merch buy some merch buy some merch and then every time we did that there was always some sort of fulfillment nightmare yeah and the only thing we heard back on the other side was the people that were pissed off that they paid for two days shipping right and thing got there in a week and a half and then when it got there it wasn't the right shirt, wasn't the right size the merch business is kind of a nightmare but with all that being said, Fanatics is kind of pitched to be the experts on it which is why they've gotten every single deal.
Without a doubt and also this isn't just like you can use like the hey it's Christmas obviously they're getting slammed with orders, they're going to fulfill tens of millions of orders for this stuff but this isn't like, this isn't No like, like you can use like the, Hey, it's Christmas. Obviously they're getting slammed with orders.
They're going to fulfill tens of millions of orders for this stuff. But this isn't like a, this isn't, Oh, it's a Christmas issue.
Like anytime you look at fanatics and people are buying stuff from them, it's, you know, that lion's Jersey that says Eagles on it, or it's like ironed numbers that rip off after one wash, or it's just stuff that you didn't order or stuff that you order that say it's going to be there in two uh two days comes four weeks later or they just cancel it and then a lot of the stuff i was reading saying like on top of it obviously the quality assurance is terrible because all the shit's wrong all the time and then the customer service is real research on this i'm just i'm realizing that this is something did you did you happen to buy something and it not come accurately are you saying this is kind of crap as a sports fan and as somebody that's had jerseys before? Because that's a big part of gifting. One of the best ones.
Oh, this person is a fan of this team. We'll get them a gift.
Fanatics has all of the jerseys. Right.
All of them from every single sport. Everything.
So when the Yankees first made the World Series before they got embarrassed, I bought whatever hat or T-shirt it was. Never came.
I waited like a month until after the World Series was over, and you get an email just like, order was not fulfilled, okay. I'm not going to do the song and dance.
I don't want to spend four days going through some robot to tell me, hey, put it in order again. We'll either refund you, we'll give you 5% in Fanatics cash.
It's like, well, guess what? I don't want 5% Fanatics cash, okay? I want the goddamn thing I ordered to show up when I thought it was going to show up. It just, I don't like that this is the case because it's not getting any smaller.
You know what I mean? Like, it's just going to, like, if you want to get anything associated with one of the teams that you root for or you enjoy, you have to go through them and it feels like more often than not or at least way more for a massive company like this, there are massive issues with the order. Yeah, and it's not like Christmas has kind of put a magnifying glass on it.
I ordered the Tyrese 317 shirt. I don't know when.
That never came either. And to be completely clear, I forgot I ordered it until right now.
And that's what they're hoping. And I never got that shirt dead serious.
Well, Tyrese317 says Pacers are going to have a bad night every once in a while. Of course.
And then they're going to bounce back in any end. They're going to be there dancing in the Eastern Conference Finals because they're going to knock out the Knicks.
Okay? Great podcast. Roommates.
Are they giving away secrets on that podcast? Pacers listening to it, maybe. And then they're going to stare down the big, bad Celtics.
They're going to say, this is our conference now. Didn't look like it last night.
It hasn't really looked like it all year. There's been a couple games you see the flashes of greatness out there.
And that's what Tyrese 317 says. The flashes are going to become a full-time thing whenever basketball starts to matter.
We're in the middle of football. Hey, I appreciate that PSA, Ray.
I just don't like it. I don't.
Because, like you said, we're in a good spot where, like, if I order a T-shirt or something like that, like, I don't have to go crazy. It's like, whatever, okay? You just eat the 40, 50 bucks that you lose.
Like, you look at a lot of these people who are, like, spending, you know, like, not everyone is as fortunate around Christmas. And you're spending, like, you work your ass off, spend basically everything you earn for that

paycheck so your kid or your nieces

or nephews or whatever can get something cool

on Christmas morning and then boom.

You're a Flyers fan and you get

a Minnesota Wild jersey.

It's like, okay, well, that ain't cool.

It's not. And then if it never gets solved,

it's even less cool. Yeah, I concur

completely. And hey, you guys

will get it figured out.

You guys will get it figured out. Because I've seen how Michael Rubin throws a fastball.
What? What? That's different. I'm just saying.
They're running the whole sports thing and this guy looks like he's never thrown a baseball before. That kind of set off a couple triggers in my head.
Okay, I don't know. The guy works hard.
He might be doing too much, man. Might be spread a little too thin.
Maybe. Yeah, and, they'll figure that out for next Christmas.
There you go. You know, next Black Friday sales, next Digital Monday, next, hey, our team's got a New Jersey, got to buy it situation that happens with every team from every league all the time.
Right. All right.
Well, anyways, they'll sort it, I hope. If you want something by next Christmas, just order it today, this week, and hopefully, you'll get it.
Joining us now is a man who is synonymous with important football because his teams are always playing in the big games. Ladies and gentlemen, the greatest college football coach of all time, friend of the program, Alabama Jones, Nick Saban.
Yay, Coach! Coach, how you doing? I can tell you guys one thing. First of all, Merry Christmas and Happy Holiday.
But I am so glad that I'm not the coach of fanatics because they just got an ass kicking like you can't believe. Yeah, that was tough.
I didn't know that was happening. To be clear, we were talking about tickets, and then it feels like Ty did a little research this morning and said, enough of it.
I can't do it. It's not right.
Yeah, I appreciate get hey coach you know they'll get better that's what coaching does right though hopefully does right not all the time though more stuff okay uh can we clear some air coach there was an ad run on netflix for tires season two and uh the star of said video is J.J. Watt and then a man I think that you just learned of, Shane Gillis.
Let's run there right now. This is J.J.
Watt. Greatest defensive lineman of all time.
Very famous. Well, he's here to do a commercial for us.
And it costs a lot, so smile, Kyla. Shane.
Hey, J. Hey JJ.
Wait do you guys know each other? Yeah we know each other. We played football together at Bishop O'Hara Middle School.
He used to bully me all the time. I didn't bully you all the time.
He wrote a love letter for me to our second grade teacher. That's just good clean fun.
She got investigated. Shouldn't have been writing those letters.

He tells customers I love them all the time.

Shut up, dork.

Ah, I see.

You're still doing it, huh, big guy?

I see you're still doing it.

Doing what?

Being a crybaby.

JJ Wow.

Little JJ Wow, that's what we used to call him.

Should meet his brother TJ, he's the man.

But JJ?

JJ was the crybaby.

What are you doing here, crybaby?

We don't sell tissues.

I don't need this, I'm out.

Thank you. TJ, he's the man.
But JJ? JJ was the crybaby. What are you doing here, crybaby? We don't sell tissues.

I don't need this, I'm out. No, wait, wait.

Send the check.

Where were you on that one? Me? You gotta have my back. I'm not gonna defend you.
We both would've gotten beaten up. I would've had him.
Oh, okay. And thanks for ruining the commercial.
Sheen! Alright, so Tires Season 2 coming out April, May. May, June.
I think you got introduced to Shane Gillis,

maybe at Notre Dame there, college football playoff.

I feel like you thought he was actually taking a shot at your integrity, so you defended yourself.

Have you done any more research on Shane,

and have you chatted with him or got a chance to catch up with him since then?

Not at all.

Not at all.

I understand he's a comedian.

Obviously, he's much more intimidated by jj watt

than he was by me which is understandable and i guess you got to live with it but you know we're

trying to create value for players and i think that's why we were able to recruit good players

whether it was how many degrees they got how many guys went in the nfl how many guys had careers

that were very productive for them and that's why we got good players so that speaks for itself and

Thank you. degrees they got, how many guys went in the NFL, how many guys had careers that were very productive for them, and that's why we got good players.
So that speaks for itself, and that's all there is to it. But, you know, he was trying to be funny, which I get it.
And, you know, my daughter Kristen loves him, so that's kind of soothed the soul a little bit that somebody in our family likes the guy. That's awesome.
I think if you would have gave him one of those, especially with that hat on, I think he would have I think he could have got him as well. Shane, I hope you and he get a chance to hang out someday.
It would be hilarious and I appreciate that you were like, okay, I'm done with everybody saying that this is how I want about winning too. So I think he respects it as well.
Just a magical moment from the college football playoffs. Let's talk about the first round that took place.
It was cold as hell, coach. You and I both, we're freezing our asses off.
And then Saturday over there in Columbus, it was cold as shit as well. It was one of those bitter, bitter, cold weekends.
How do you view the first round of the college football playoffs, obviously all those games, and then what are your thoughts on more warm weather climate teams having to travel into that cold as the years roll on here, coach? Yeah, well, you know, I thought there were some good games, but I also thought there was some evidence that there may have been three or four better teams that they could have put in the playoffs, I guess, was my take from it. I think one of the things that the committee could do is, I think you and I talked about this before, but, you know, in the old days when the Sugar Bowl wanted to see if they were going to pick you or the Orange Bowl or the Rose Bowl or Fiesta Bowl or whatever, they would come watch you play.
So at least they could eyeball the team and see what kind of team, you know, what you look like on the hoof, especially in the line positions because those are critical matchups. And then they would decide how good the teams were based on that.
But you've got to, you know, you've got to get out of the conference room to be able to do that. But I think that would be helpful in the future.
You know, less emphasis on how many wins and more emphasis on who you beat. So that's my first take.
Second take is if you look ahead to what's happening now, which is the next round of the playoffs, I think we have less of a chance based on the way they seeded the teams of getting the best four teams in the final four than we did when we just picked four teams. Because Oregon and Ohio State are probably one of the best four teams in the country, and they're going to play each other in a round of eight rather than in the semifinals.
And that was all because we awarded conference champs buys. And they should be rewarded by putting them in in the tournament but they should get ranked relative to the quality of team they have relative to everybody else then you would have more good games I think and a fair tournament when you get down the road to the semifinals and the finals Oregon Ohio State both big 10 teams that coach Saban was talking about there just as everybody would probably start to pile.
I mean, we had this discussion about the 12-team playoff. Are they going to get the 12 top teams right? Probably not.
But they're going to get the top six right is what everybody was thinking. Top six is going to get in there.
Now you start thinking about it. It's like, well, are the top four going to make it to the semifinals? I never heard you kind of phrase it that way.
Like, Oregon, Ohio, everybody's considering that like this is a national championship type game that's taking place in a rematch in the Rose Bowl. I think it's good for the hype of this particular round.
But whenever we go into the next week, I think everybody's going to be bummed out that one of these teams is not going to be in it. With that being said, if you're these coaches, which coach are you most excited to be? Are you most excited to be an 11-point dog out there as Boise State? Are you pumped to be Oregon, who already beat Ohio State and you're getting two and a half points? Do you feel like you'd rather be the team that's favored by 13, knowing that you have a better squad? What is kind of the mindset of a coach for all these teams? Which one would you most like to be? Well, I do think if you look at the gamblers' records on how they pick these lines on these games, they're right more than they're wrong because they're in business.
So I'd always rather be the favorite team. That means you've got better players.
So if you do a good job getting your team ready to play, you're going to have the best chance to win. But, you know, one point that I never hear anybody talk about, everybody talks about what is such a great advantage to have in a bye week, which I think it is from a health, recovery, wellness of your team standpoint.
But I always thought the biggest issue, and I heard you guys talking about a couple of these bowl games that happened yesterday, high scoring, crazy games. When you don't play football for a long time, the one thing that it affects is your ability to tackle, which really affects your ability to play defense, which we saw no defense yesterday.
None. I mean, whoever got the ball last wins.
And so it's exciting for the fans. But if you're a coach, it drives you crazy because how do you manage a game when you know you can't stop the other team? But I always felt like, how do you practice over this long period of time from, you know, two, three weeks, four weeks off? And you don't want to tackle guys in practice and get your own team hurt so you don't tackle that much.
And then you get in a game and you miss a lot of tackles. And you don't play the way you should play on defense.
So I think that's something to probably watch with all these teams that had buys. That's like rest or rust is always the conversation.
And then you talk about being able to tackle and everything in live speed. It's almost like the preseason conversation that happens in the NFL.
The teams that play in the preseason are normally better tacklers at the beginning of the season than those who don't normally take three, four weeks to kind of catch up to the speed. In these bowl games, obviously, you only got four quarters to figure out if you still got it.
Are any of these teams, and it's been so long since I've been at a college football practice, so I apologize for even asking you, and I assume this is a stupid question. Are you tackling to ground in practices? Because the NFL has rules.
Certain amount of padded practices. I don't think you're allowed to do one past week 14.
I think you have to do that in college ball. How does that, like has Oregon been tackling over the last two weeks, you think? And are they still doing that well uh i i would think not um you know what we tried to do is try to thud in practice which means you put yourself in position to tackle you tackle or attempt to start to tackle the guy high near leg near shoulder thud them wrap them don't take them to the ground because if you do a study on how many people get hurt in practice, most of the time it's because somebody's on the ground.
So whether you're blocking, you try not to cut, whether you're playing defense, you try to stay on your feet. But when you tackle people and throw them on the ground, you throw them into one of your players so you get hurt.
So the NFL's got it right we practiced exactly like we did when i was at the miami dolphins or cleveland browns in college and our players learned how to tackle high i see all these guys trying to cut people are stepping over them they miss tackles the guy you know makes a lateral cut and they miss i'm not a big fan of cut tackling especially in the open field so um our guys were pretty good tacklers and we practiced near lake near shoulder nobody on the ground i love to hear the fundamentals being preached every single day stay up stay up stay off the ground is literally screamed at an nfl practice a thousand times you can get cut you don't know how to practice you end up on the ground too much your ass is going to be out of here be who you can afford to be obviously thud up andud up and then let finish. This guy finish.
You thud him up and then put it back on. So you get pursuit.
The other guy's pursuing. Because if you're going against a scout team in practice, the front seven should stop them.
So you don't get the proper rotation and leverage in the secondary unless you let the guy continue to run and everybody keeps leverage on the ball so you don't have to make one-on-one tackles as much and you can sort of mirror guys and keep leverage on two sides of the ball. That's smart.
And also the runner finish. You know what I mean? Keep going, keep going, keep going.
It's good. I feel like you're figuring out practice as football continues to evolve here.
Like, hey, this is the best practice. This is the best preaching.
You you say you never taught anybody to cut tackle i appreciate the cut tackles because we got those big tight ends now jump because everybody's trying to saw their knees and shins we're getting 260 pounders 250 pounders leaping over people and then we even got running backs jumping over people backwards these days so it's pretty cool highlights you know so if people could keep you know teaching poor fundamentals that'd be great we'd appreciate that you know i was you know we had one exception you know we played against a big like 260 pound back and if you were a db then you try to cut the guy but those kind of guys usually don't have a lot of lateral quickness they can't jump cut they're pretty straight line so you usually don't miss them but if you try to cut tackle like boise state's runner jente i mean you're gonna miss that guy all the time he's awesome i can't wait to watch him in a big spotlight hopefully these teams arizona state boise state these teams that are from the group of five have a chance to really showcase what they've been all year scadaboo go bananas you. You know, Jente go crazy.
But obviously they're going to be, you know, this is focal point number one, and then we'll deal with everything else. They're going to be facing their toughest opponents as well.
Ty has a question for you, Coach. Coach, you kind of mentioned the absurdity of, you know, Oregon being the best team, you know, for a large portion of the year, and they get rewarded by having to play Ohio State.
I think a lot of people, after Ohio State got beat by Michigan, were kind of thinking sideways about them, because when you look at their roster, they're obviously unbelievable. And then Pat mentioned it, we were there in the horseshoe, and that was about as dominating and convincing of a performance as we saw in the first round.
When you look at the teams remaining, and obviously they're a favorite against Oregon, do you think Ohio State, albeit being the eighth seed, is the most talented team left in the field when they play their A game? Yeah, I think they're the most talented team. But, you know, you mentioned A game.
How consistently do they play to their capabilities? I think that's the consistency and performance that you're looking for to be successful. I think if they play like they played against Tennessee, they're going to have a really good chance to have a chance to win a championship.
And, you know, we've kind of gotten on their sort of fans a little bit, but, you know, these Ohio State fans, you know, they got a psychotic obsession with Michigan, and they need to go get therapy or something to try to get it fixed because they have a chance to win the national championship, and here you are. You know, nobody's excited about their opportunity to play because they, you know, lost to Michigan, which was a tough game.
And they lost the game probably by some of the mistakes that they made. So those are correctable things.
But I think this is probably the most talented team if they play to the standard and level offense, defense. They they pretty much got it all.
I think a lot of Ohio State fans all the way back, all the way back after that tennessee win you know and i think a lot of big 10 people very pumped behind the ohio state team for what they did to their sec team that came on in and then will howard i don't know if you saw obviously you didn't will howard put a instagram post up and his caption was awesome it was like you know when people ask you what happened here tell them the north remembers tell them winter game for the volunteers see y'all in pasadena it's like that type of confidence with how they played how they played it it's like here we go for the ohio state buckeyes a game this is what we're expecting but boy if they drop off you know after that game being a possibility it's gonna get so so well see you later But to be clear. One of the things, Pat, that I like to bring up here is, you know, it's so hard to deal with success.
And when you have a successful team, you know, success is not a continuum. And you've heard me say before, people who think what happened in the past is going to affect what happens in the future.
It's just human nature. But when you have something bad happen and the criticism that they had after the Michigan game, there's a psychological motivation to go out and try to prove yourself and prove everybody wrong and have the disposition that you need to play great football, and they certainly did that.
Now, can they continue it through the playoffs? The Ohio State fans are saying, exactly, Coach. Exactly what you just said.
if we weren't as harsh on this team they wouldn't have been as ready as they were no way for the tennessee volunteers uh but with what you said on game day i think is very accurate it's like a team can feel if a state's behind them and i feel like after what they did feel like second half yes of that game it just felt like oh ohio people are pumped about what this team is and how they represented the state i think that's why ohio people react the way they do because it's like that's not how we are that's not who we are we don't do this their passion is obviously something that is uh you know aggressive in some particular fashions but that's why they are ohio state that's why they they have the biggest facilities, and they have the roster management that they can have, and they have the alumni and the boosters and 105,000-plus every single week. It's like those things are all positive if they are, and I think after the Tennessee game, it's very, very, I think Ohio is ready to go on a run.
I can't wait. You know, Pat, all the things that you said creates an expectation and a standard.
And if you don't play to that expectation and a standard, you're probably going to get criticized. And you need to know that before you get in the briar patch because that's the way it is.
That's the way it was here for years, you know, at Alabama. And every time we lost a game, the dynasty was over.
You know, these guys have had it. They're done.
They'll never win another game, never win another championship. But you can't be affected by external factors.
You hear me say that all the time. Yep.
I do appreciate the fact that they called for your retirement and your team being dead so many times. And you coached for another 10 years after that.
It was the same thing that was happening with the Patriots. Oh, yeah.
They're pulling up clips from the Patriots like 2010, people being like, Tom's done, Bill's done. Congrats, Hall of Fame career.
He's won enough. Guy won four more or three more Super Bowls after that.
Yeah, went to five. They're always expecting you to be done until your next move, and it's like Ohio Ohio State lives by that.
Every single Oregon though.

I'm the only undefeated team.

Yeah.

Only undefeated team.

Just waiting out there at the Rose Bowl.

That's going to be a good one.

Underdogs.

Underdogs.

After already having to win undefeated.

They're the big 10 champs.

Ohio State's in big 10 country.

Oh,

wow.

Dan Lanning's got a lot.

So can Georgia.

Georgia's in an interesting situation,

obviously with how their season ends as the SEC champions. Go ahead, Tone.
Yeah, Coach. Obviously, Carson Beck is out.
Gunnar Stockton is in. Does the game plan change for Kirby going into this one, or do you think they'll run the offense as normal? Do you know anything about Gunnar Stockton coming out in the recruiting process or anything like that? Gunnar Stockton's from Raven County, which if you don't know where that is, that's up where they made Deliverance, which is the old movie, which is where my bike house is.
So I've known this kid since he was eight years old. I watched him all through high school.
We recruited him here. He probably always wanted to go to Georgia.
But if you watch the second half of their game against Texas in the SEC championship game, they change nothing. The first two plays, the guys in there are passes.
The first one incompletes, the second one a good throw, and a completion. The one thing he gives them, in addition, is he is a little better runner.
I can't sit here and say he's a better thrower. but they did not change their offensive strategy at all in the second half of the Texas game.
And they actually moved the ball better in the second half than he did in the first. So I think they look like they showed confidence in the kid by the way they played.
They weren't trying to protect them in the second half of the game. Well, he wasn't protected on one particular hit.
Lost his helmet, got bent back like Gumby, and bounced right back up. The guys from the Deliverance Hills of Georgia? That's where your lake house is? You're heading right into...
Is that real? No. Yeah, I can take it to the house where they filmed it.
I'm okay. Yeah, I'd rather not.
The demons that you bring to me, you don't want to go see my demons? There's an O's in my life. I can't figure that guy out.
Hey, that was wild, wasn't it? I mean, we forget. There's so many things that happen in that five-hour run on Friday and then the three-hour.
O's is crazy. You're right in the middle of that, Coach.
You're right in the middle of that thing. And I'm still trying to figure out how he did that.
What's wrong with that guy, you think, Coach? Legit, what do you think is wrong with that guy? I'm wondering. I don't know.
I almost think he's got to be a little bit of a mind reader, which I never believed in, but it seems that way. It freaks you out, doesn't it? It freaks me out a lot.
I was right in the middle of a few of his tricks and uh like when he when he tells me to close my eyes and cover my ears i had ear plugs it i had ear pieces in so i could hear everything sure when he put his hands over my ears actually i could hear better because the speakers were in my ear but then as i'm sitting there i almost get lost in the situation and then i just i just literally think of myself doing the what's that coming down and then i start thinking wait is it who's that coming down that's the conversation i start having in my head okay that's the that's the whole thing that starts happening so there he's like what school did you think of it was like well i didn't want to ruin it and say i didn't think of a team i thought of a i thought of a chant so but it was associated with team Georgia. And then Herbie has the Clemson thing.

And I'm like, we just ruined this guy's entire career right here on game day. It's like, thank the heavens that it's not my career that's getting ruined here.

But I certainly ruined it.

You know, I wasn't supposed to do that.

And then he has the shirt and the 34-3 with the three of spades,

which was on – but I don't – that was a lot of shit.

That was a lot of shit, Coach, to one way it goes yeah it goes you freak don't let them in your house though yeah no no you don't do any of those tricks in your house no those are all public appearances you do with those right right coach that's right same as a ouija board you treat always like a ouija board bingo I think that's a really good call there. Connor has a question for you, Coach.
Yeah, Coach, how do we feel about Texas? Obviously, they kind of took care of business with Clemson, but Clemson kind of made it a game there in the second half. Do you feel like they're also poised for a pretty good run, and do you feel like kind of the SEC, similar to the Big Ten, kind of pulling for Ohio State now, do you feel like Texas and Georgia are kind of the two teams the SEC is going to get behind or is it just Texas since Georgia's won so much as of late no I think I think Georgia knows how to compete they played in a lot of these games before I think that's really important from a player standpoint and a confidence standpoint that you know you can go win these kind of games.
But the thing that impressed me most about Texas in the Clemson game is the way they ran the ball. I mean, they ran the ball, I mean, up and down the field on these guys.
And I think that I've always said this, if you don't run the ball well, you have trouble in the red area. They didn't have the same issues in the red area, I think, because of their ability to run the ball.
Now, I don't know probably enough about Clemson's defense, but I think they're pretty decent. But they did a good job.
They made some explosive plays. They've got explosive players.
so I think Texas is one of the best four teams out there

that has a chance to

you know get in the championship game i um i love that sark has had to get his boys to rally a couple of different times though right lose early at home in front of the whole world have to rally now is this team for real or an injury, obviously, had to rally. Then they lose the SEC championship, had to rally.
It's like, I feel like they're callous, too. You know, I feel like they've been through some shit this year mentally and physically, and that could be a great motivator for a team.
But, you know, Texas and Georgia, both in the quarterfinals. Ohio State, Oregon, taking each other on in the same game.

I'll be excited to see what the final score is for who makes.

Oh, yeah.

You know, that is going to be the conversation of this particular 12-team playoff.

How was Christmas?

Did you get any good gifts?

Anybody gift you anything awesome out there?

Yeah, I got a new hat, which, you know, I'm not willing to unveil.

It's going to be a big secret.ian got me a new hat so really who's it made out yeah i'm competing with you now with the boots and you know all that stuff i'm hanging in there hey the boots were awesome his boots were fantastic they i'm talking about your boots well the brown ones he was wearing yeah yeah those were very nice. Very nice.
Those boots that he was in. Now, granted, on Friday, I saw that it was low teens.
I did not go with cowboy boots. I went with, we're going into snow boots.
And then on Saturday, I put the cowboy boots on. I thought you battled the cold well.
Personally, I thought you battled the cold well, if it means anything. Yeah, well, you noticed I ordered a freaking space eater at Notre Dame about two segments.
Yeah, how do I keep this with me for tomorrow, too, is what he said. As soon as that thing started blowing, you're like, oh, yeah, this is what has been...
How do I make sure I get this tomorrow? How about Mike Ruhlman, also known as Matt Ruhlman, stage? Yep. I don't know.
Stage director. Stage director.
How about him mopping that fucking stage? Do you remember how many times he did that during the show? I actually asked somebody, why do you do that? Why are you doing that? What is the purpose of it? He wanted it to look good because they would show the CFP logo and then they would come up to the game

day set. And he like, I'm telling

you, he mopped that thing three, four times.

There was so much mud. So much mud,

tractile, Everett. Then he's the one that's in

charge of like moving the heaters in places.

Put the space heater at Coach's

feet. Let me bring this in here.
Let me turn this one

on. I run really hot, so normally he has to

keep heaters on other people other than me and Kirk.

Instead, I was like, let that thing rain on me.

He was the man. Sweating.
He was sweating.

He was sweating. Yeah, he was.

But you know, what I was looking for was

if Petey did his business there, how he was going to

handle that. You're talking about

Petey Herbstreet?

And Pete Thamel.

If Thamel dumps on stage,

very... I'm talking about the dog.
Yeah, okay. Pete Herbstreet dumps on that stage in that weather I think it's good because you can pick it up because it would be ice cold you know the heated poop is the one that gets a little slouchy I'd do a little alright I appreciate you Pete wild, brother.
Yeah. Pete was running wild.
He had to do a lot of reporting. Did you hear about this? It was all over the internet.
Pete was, Pete Herbstreet. We're not talking about fame.
Oh, okay. Pete Herbstreet.
He was running wild on Notre Dame's campus. And I think at Ohio State, same exact thing.
He was down on the sideline near us during our watch-along megacast thing. And somebody told him to move.
Who are you talking to? No. This is Pete Herd.
I'm locked in right here. He flexed on this person.
It was awesome to watch. What a dog.
Yeah. Literally.
See you out in Pasadena, brother. I look forward to it, man.
Have a happy new year. I hope you had a great holiday, guys.
Thanks. Appreciate you.
We love you, Coach. Ladies and gentlemen, Coach Saban.
Hey, Coach. Excited for Coach's party on New Year's Eve.
He's throwing at that hotel room. Yeah, it's very nice of him to front all the costs for that.
It's very kind of Coach Saban to do that. Drop the ball with Coach Saban.
All his friends. Yeah.
He's doing the countdown, right? He's like Ryan Seacrest. Exactly.
He's doing a four, all right, ten, all right, nine.

I think McGee's co-hosting with him.

Saving McGee.

Saving McGee.

New Year's Eve.

That's a dream.

That is a dream.

It's going to be tough for Pasadena.

I wonder if they'll do it in that one hotel room.

There's like a hotel out there that is, I don't know, from the 1400s, maybe 1200s.

Sure.

Is that the one I showed up to and you guys had been there all day?

Maybe all. Watching games.
Was that Pasadena or was that Santa Monica? Okay, it might have been Santa Monica. Yeah, you're talking about Santa Monica.
Pasadena has this hotel. It's like very, very old.
I think iconic. Dare I say iconic is what it is, the amount of history and everything that's there.
And if Saban was to go right from the middle of the lot, there's like an open... Oh, yeah, courtyard.
Courtyard in the middle of that whole thing. Now we're piecing something together.
Maybe we should try to put this together. Something to think about.
Coach Saban live on New Year's, countdown, drop the ball with Nick Saban. Why not? Holy hell.
I'm there. Pete Thamel would do a live hit or two? He would.
A couple breaking news. I didn't know if he was referring to Petey Thamel or Petey Herbstreit there when he's talking about dumping on a stage here.
I know Thamel's never dumped in public, I don't think, but just the thought of him whenever he said Petey is good for Thamel. I bet Thamel's a sneaky shitter.
I bet you he has quickly dropped his pants. Yeah, I could see him dropping trowel on stage, no doubt.
Just real quick. I don't know.
I think Pete eats a very healthy diet. No doubt.
Sometimes a very low-carb diet, not a lot of sugar. I've never seen him eat, actually.
Does he eat? Does he have a Pelissero? He has his shoes untied, which is the most... I was very surprised when I walked and saw a Thamel shoes untied.
Too tight, can't think properly. Well, thinking goes back to, is he plugged in? Is he wired in? I don't think he's wired in.
I think he just has his phone attached to his ear all day. So Schefter has the NFL, and he'll dabble in college football with some college basketball beef every once in a while.
Ian Rappaport, I think he has NFL.

I don't think he really ventures out of there.

Shams, NBA, but he'll dabble.

If an NBA owner is a part of the NFL,

he'll dabble in some NFL stuff.

Pete Thamel has to know 130 assistant coaches across college.

By far the vastest.

I don't even know if that's a word.

The vastest amount of humans that he has to keep up with. He's college basketball too.
He broke the Jim Larenagan news yesterday. Which was huge news, obviously.
He's just Miami's coach. I think it was the Final Four last year.
Middle of the season this year. I'm done.
This transfer portal sucks. I quit.
Oh, really? So that's happening in basketball

as well. College basketball season

is almost upon us, right?

Conference plays pretty much. They start

February 10th. It feels like it's been

more successful early than the NBA.

And maybe that's because we've been talking about it a little bit,

but I feel like I've watched more college.

Yeah, are we very selfish, too?

What we talk about, we think. There's a chance.

There's a chance. I checked yesterday.
The NBA, NHL, college basketball all start February 10th. I would like to say this.
Oh, yeah, it does, doesn't it? February 10th is the starting day for those ones. And Kevin Durant acknowledged the ratings being down and stuff.
They all did, kind of. LeBron did.
Kevin Durant did. I think you'll hear Steph Curry do that as well.
I think Adam Silver maybe gave a little bit of a, hey boys, this is all happening under your watch kind of. If you want to

kind of tighten back up a little bit.

Maybe do a little bit more

interviews. Maybe showcase

a little bit more. Maybe become a little bit

more, hey we're a great league.

I think that helps.

I think people like watching people that they like.

And I'm not saying those guys, we don't like

them. I like them.
Love them. I'm just talking

about the audience and the crowd. You very rarely

see them do any interviews. Very rarely

learn anything about them other than

Thank you. You know, and I'm not saying those guys, we don't like them.
I like them. Love them.
I'm just talking about the audience and the crowd. You very rarely see them do any interviews.
No. Very rarely learn anything about them other than 20 years, this guy, 18 years.
It's like, let's learn a little bit. Yeah.
Then they'll speak at a convention and everybody says, oh, okay. And then that's all you hear.
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Tony, have you been seeing what this man has been doing over here?

Yeah, and you looked at him earlier today and you said,

do you need to go home?

And someone said, Connor, you should go home.

And Connor looked at him and said, that's why no one will remember your name.

Who is that? And it's true. I don't know if it was bone we'll remember bone's name because bone actually brought this he did to boston connor said this is what i do bone was actually the pal of year of this particular message to boston connor's insides uh just yesterday he was one if by land two if by sea i'll be over bringing this with me to boston connor's intestines and uh that's how he's living right now so we'll remember bones that you didn't say that i i said i appreciate the sentiment you guys are putting across here but i mean you couldn't fit a quarter through my butt cheeks right now they are so he came by sea what a lot of two yeah one if Yeah.
One if by land, two if by sea.

You've been dropping twos all over that toilet in there.

My God.

Fresh paint job.

Who needs one?

Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, live from an attic in Ohio. He's a college football national champion for the Ohio State University.

He's a Super Bowl champion for the Green Bay Packers. And he's former president of the state of the Ohio.
Ladies and gentlemen, an absolute menace, A.J. Hawk.
Yeah, Hawk. Are you okay? Lighting looks a little different.
Doesn't the face look a little different today? The color? What's different? What happened? Well, you look like you might be going through it a little bit as well, pal. I don't know if we're overreacting to the filter that's currently on your handsome face.
You look like you're maybe battling what Bone was carrying around town yesterday. No, I'm actually, I feel great.
I feel really good physically, mentally. Everything feels good.
I don't know. You know, my camera setup changes day by day with what they have given me here.
But yeah, we're figuring it out. Obviously, day one of ESPN, you had your worst appearing face that you've ever had in the history of our show.
what they have given me here but uh yeah we're figuring it out obviously day one of espn you had your worst appearing uh face that you've ever had in the history of our show but they have done great things for that backdrop those books look just as good today as they have for the last four years and that's truly a magical thing and we think you look good as well just a different shade of caucasian today we will have you know not that it's a bad thing we're just telling you how how you look. D-Bone might actually...
Hold on. Age, let's talk about the game last night.
Please. Seahawks, Bears.
Amazing. Shootout.
Great game. 6-3.
Jason Myers, Cairo Santos scored 9 points in the first half and no points would be scored again. It's on prim week eight 17 17 week 17 but week 18 of the Thursday night football season it's the last Thursday yeah it is legitimately a time where and this was big for the Seahawks to get this three-point win out okay especially in the NFC West conversation playoff implications but that was a crap game a shite game and kind of the way we talked about it in the first hour i did at least was you know law of averages was founded by a mathematician in uh 1870 law of averages says that you know everyone it's gonna have to fight it's gonna have to things are gonna have to bounce back out so if it's really cropped that means it's gonna be really good sometime because that is kind of how it has to work out football has been cropped now college bowl games yesterday electrified yeah crushing nfl football has been cropped for a lot of the time here as of late but guess what's coming aj what's that playoff football all the good teams are gonna be playing against each other all the bad teams that are causing these crop games slowing teams down being able to okay defense, okay enough defense that they kind of hurt the other team's performance, or they just roll over instinct completely and get absolutely dominated.
Those teams are going to be gone. The top end of the NFL is going to be around.
We got great football around the corner. Do you agree with that, or do you think that's a little bit blindly optimistic, H? No, I think first off, when you're talking about the NFL and talking about sports in general you should be optimistic like why are you a sports fan if you're not blindly optimistic and like irrational for the team or teams like D-Button some people have multiple teams like you should be an irrational fan to where at times you might you might lose it and say some stupid things but it's all in support of your squad.
Yeah and I think for the sport as a whole as a fan knowing it's going to get better is a beautiful thing especially as we're in the most important time one of the teams has looked better than basically every other team and on christmas day they showcase that to the world yeah 200 countries 24.3 million person average or 24.1 million person average million total viewers. One half of those games was dominated by one particular team.
And on the defensive side of that team, there's an old-ass man. Old man.
Very. Been around a long time.
He was actually co-hosting our show live from the Thunderdome not too long ago. I miss that.
He was taking one-on-one pass sets against Boston Conner in the front yard here off the Thunderdome not too long ago. Going hard.
Was on the couch. Everybody said, this guy's done.
I believe some people were even calling him Keith. Yeah.
People are calling him Keith Van Nooyen. Didn't even know his fucking name, these people.
Got a good ring to it, though. Not bad.
It's almost become my go-to whenever talking about this particular man, but now he's in the middle of a two-year deal he signs in April with the Baltimore Ravens. Has 11 and a half sacks.
What? One of the key contributors to a dominating win on Christmas Day. Ladies and gentlemen, Santa Claus, Kyle Vannoy.
Yeah, Kyle! How you doing, man? Man, it is so good to be back with my boys, bro. I hope you're doing good.
But hold up. I ain't old.
I'm wise, and I'm experienced. There we go.
Yeah, he's a veteran. He's experienced.
He's not old. No, he's just been in the game a long time, but he's feeling spry, looking spry.
Hey, you're playing spry as well. What has it been this year? Another year in the system? Kind of understanding the defense? Understanding the guys a little bit? What do you contribute

your success this year thus far

to? Great dancing. I think it's

got to be Lambo, right? Is Lambo

in the building? Oh, geez. Well, he's not

in North Carolina. He went back to college.

He's a general manager down there in college.

He did say... Yeah, he got

the check from Billy B

over there. That's why he ran

over there for that check. We know Lambobo.
Shout out to Lombo. Love Lombo.
Honestly, this season's been awesome for me playing, just being around a group of guys that have been there for so long, that have been going through it, just trying to help out as best as possible. And then for me know i've always known i could do this um you know in the last 29 regular season games i got 20 and a half sacks so it's something that i've always been confident in as a player um it's just been able to be put on display now i've just been able to focus on rushing um i've played multiple positions my whole career.
I've had the green dot. I've played off the ball, on the ball.
And now I can just focus on rushing the passer. It's been awesome.
I've been watching a lot of players in the league, a lot of good edge rushers trying to steal some of their moves because they're working. Some players I can't.
I can't do what miles garrett does or tj watt but i try to do my own thing have my own rhythm beat to my own drum and just come in and be ready to go every single game um bring that old school mentality a little bit i'm not shaking hands after games um i'll see you after you know i'll see you in the off season i'll give you a phone call whatever but i i'm just bringing that attitude back i'm not trying to be your friend out there i think people are too friendly you know i'm trying to just win yeah and you're an old man you know yelling in clouds in this particular yeah yeah yep veteran wise doing that feels like that particular organization is a perfect place for a guy a guy like you, legitimately, especially after watching Hard Knocks. Feels like John Harbaugh in the Ravens organization want to be known as that type of team.
Do you feel that from within? And how do you guys feel about this particular squad this year? Yeah, you just hit it right there. They do enjoy bringing veteran guys in like myself um you know that they took a chance on me and you know i told them i was gonna do what i did and i feel like they've been happy with it and so it's just continued to help out the younger guys too you know i'm really excited for a dafe owe who's having an awesome year He's one sack away from joining the 10-club sack.
And we're having two double-digit pass rushers within the organization of the Ravens for the first time since 2014. So his ass better be getting to the quarterback against the Browns.
Yeah. That's for sure.
And just Namdi Matabike, I know his sack numbers aren't up. I think he's had like six taken away with flags this year.
So he's doing really well. Travis Jones is coming on, Michael Pierce.
And then, you know, the thing that's helped us a lot is the secondary. Secondary's been holding it down.
Kyle Hamilton, he's one of one. He's an avatar back there.
I always got to give him love. I think Marlon Humphrey should be in consideration of player of the year on defense.
He's having a hell of a career and year. I think he has six picks and one being a pick six.
So he's been locked down for most of the season. And then got to show love for Zio.
Zio was, you know, getting rocked by the media and going through it for a little bit and you know just bouncing back and us you know bouncing and staying with it and turning the page and then just clicking offensively defensively and special teams over these last three weeks three games in 11 days we won't talk about it we know it's bs but we did it we went through it and we came out and now we're leading the division which is one of our goals everybody that's a part of those three games in 11 days especially this late into a season thinks it's absolute crap an absolute sight you guys dominated your three coming off the bye obviously you guys have looked like the best team in football at this point i mean just so no so good. No, no, no, no.
We can't. We got to pump those brakes.
You know, you have to always give Kansas City their respect. They're the champs.
Agreed. They're 14-1.
Got it. You know, they're the team to beat.
I know, you know, everyone's kind of saying the Ravens and all that, but I'm going to stop it right there.

The Kansas City Chiefs, what they're doing right now,

they need to get their flowers.

They're the number one in the AFC.

Patrick Bones has been looking good.

I don't think he's thrown an interception since November,

so he's doing his thing.

So you've got to give them,

until somebody beats them, they're the team to to beat how many points did the texans score uh zero okay so they're the afc south champs they've won the afc yeah they're gonna be they're gonna be hosting a playoff game they're a playoff team with how you guys performed against them and then two weeks leading that, I mean, everything is just rolling for the Ravens right now. But you're right.
We are currently in what has been Chiefs season. And they are playing their best ball as well.
That's why we're setting up for a beautiful playoff picture. Go ahead, AJ.
Kyle, I know when you came into the league, when you got drafted by Detroit, you were playing off the ball. I'm wondering how that experience may help you out now.
Obviously, you are home you I know the Patriots brought you in you got to rush the passer and everything but like you said you get to focus on rushing the passer what's it like what's the coordinator and the rest of the defense do to make you guys feel comfortable where you can't like you said you got 11 and a half sacks man like that's a that's a ton of sacks especially a guy uh this late in your career how long you've been doing it what like, I guess, when you get to focus on getting after the quarterback every single play? Sorry, I almost lost my headphones. Yeah, well, you should go play in the NBA.
You might be able to – they're shooting. That's all they're doing.
No one was watching that NBA on Christmas, bro. LeBron said it's here.
Yeah, they might have to move to christmas eve i don't think nfl is giving that back next night next christmas is thursday cal next christmas is on thursday yeah i don't know that yeah that's gone that's boxing day yeah well yeah you move to christmas eve or the boxing day yeah yeah either one which is canada whatever the case you have been balling this stage. Hand in the dirt, though.
How do we feel? No, hell no. I'm standing up.
I'm standing up. No hand in the dirt.
Put one in there. Only against Boston and Connor because he gets scared.
Well, you got to bring more beef. I understand what you're saying.
He's still bringing it. I don't want to bring no beef to you, Connor.'m good it's okay we got you ready yeah he's bringing beef with the toilet on this particular a lot of beef yeah still bringing it jay talking about you only getting you know you only have to get to the quarterback right now and you know you know go ahead i'm trying to avoid the detroit talk because it kind of brings back some nightmares a little bit just because when I was there the coach my position coach legit looked me in my face for two years and said we think you're a good football player but we don't know where to put you and so like that was um you know pretty tough and then I was able to see the former defensive coordinator now the Steelers got to perform against him a couple you know a couple weeks ago so that was good um you know I like to just continue to prove that I'm right and the people that are in my corner right and those that you know think I'm wrong is kind of kick rocks type of deal so um for me I think it helped me mature as a professional.

I think it also helped my marriage because we had each other there going through Detroit, going through a hard time. We got to lean on each other.
I'll always be thankful for that moment because my wife's my best friend and we got to go through something like that together. you know i was kind of i'll admit it i was depressed during that time because it was my

first time in my entire life that I've had that I didn't have success in athletics. So it was kind of like, OK, how am I going to handle this? What I'm going to do? And, you know, I I have a therapist and she's helped me out along my whole career and just stuck with it.
And it was just hard work. It wasn't easy.
It didn't come overnight. And I think ultimately it's landed to where I'm at here.
I think now people are seeing 11 years or 10 years of grind all of a sudden in this year. And now people think I'm a good a good player when you know back then it was just a mindset of always feeling like I was a good player always you know continue to work and that work hasn't switched I haven't switched up that routine I'm still working hard if not harder now because I have to take care of my body but it's just that mentality that I've always had and always will have, and I hope every young player out there that's not getting their chance to stay ready, because when you do get your op, you need to take advantage of it.
Thank you for sharing your testimony there. Great question, AJ, to lead to all of that, because the story for Caleb Williams has been like, this is the first time this guy has lost.
This is the first time this this guy's lost it's like I hate to break it to the people that are saying that most people that make it to the NFL okay have had success in their football careers quite a bit but because of how good they are at football so like whenever you start to lose how you handle it how you go about it and like I appreciate you saying the message to the young guys that are going through it right now. Like, Hey, just keep working, keep grinding because better times are potentially ahead.
That can wear on you, man. You said you got, Oh yeah.
Oh, I'm, Oh man. There was lots of times crying, going, driving my Ford truck, uh, going to work.
It wasn't easy, um, to show up and I wasn wasn't perfect obviously i had my issues when i was a younger player trying to figure out the professional life of football and understanding how things work and you know getting traded uh or cut and all those things and seeing other people have success and just trying to you know keep it you know it was also tough too because at the time i ziggy ansa was hooping right and i was the one i taught ziggy ansa how to play football i had to help him learn how to play football on college by you and this dude is playing and i can't see the field and it was like you know what the hell is going on and so it was a good humbling experience for me and it's helped me out in my whole career that chip will never ever leave and it's a big reason why I'm playing um I think it's different now um I've had success in the league, but the chip of always working hard and working smart. I think there's a lot of people in our world that works really, really hard and don't necessarily get the stuff that they deserve.
That's why I also throw in you got to work smart because there are things that you have to work smart towards and uh with yeah i don't think a work ethic guarantees you success you have to pick and choose the right things for you you know like i don't think if i would have worked my ass off at basketball i would have became a six foot six guy that get knocked out of shots like if i just because i had a work ethic doesn't mean that that's going to work but if you find what you can accomplish and work your ass off towards it in a focused way, normally good things are going to come. The work ethic is the most important part behind it.
And also your mindset and your framing, which I think you chitchatted there about how you've had to kind of go about framing everything. Because any adversity can be an opportunity, right? I mean, it's an old cliche because it's a reason like, hey, are you this beat you or are you gonna learn from it and take it with you going forward and it feels

like all those things have led you to an 11 half sack season on a team that's red hot going in

to the playoffs and being a pivotal part of that can't wait to watch you continue to write your

story brother you know that's what it is you're just continuing to write your story and uh now

you have a podcast you got a family you're leading the race i mean life is great brother life is very very great and speaking of that it feels like when things are going well it goes really well for you tone has a question yeah kyle you talked about balling earlier and you know three-point shooters they get hot they get streaky i saw you had you had six sacks in your first three games and then you have four and a half sacks in your last four games have you noticed like since you've become and focused more on pass rushing that you get hot as a pass rusher in this game after game after game you just feel good that's a really good question um it's funny you bring that up because i felt like when i didn't have sacks in my four game stretch stretch, I feel like I was rushing really, really well during that time. I just wasn't getting on the board.
I mean, I felt like I rushed really well against the commanders, really well against the Broncos during that time, and I was just right there. And then it's kind of like threes and different things, home home runs that they come in bunches and it's just something that happens and you know there's other people that have had that same how to with how their season's gone with sacks um you know it's just been one of those things for me i was hot hot early, had to work through getting the slide, getting double teams.
Teams were scheming for me a little bit differently. And then finally broke through with that and then just continued developing.
I think that's the one thing that I hold my hat on in the league in the league is I feel like I'm always trying to develop. I'm always watching what, uh, people have done prior to towards me or what people are doing and having success, uh, right now in the NFL, uh, because I think it's pivotal.
There's only so much you can do with the blocking schemes and, um, offensively, uh, it's just seeing how, what works for you. and it's been awesome to continue to get better each and every week and each and every year.
On that note, doing film study, Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Kyle, you know, one of the games you guys played against the Eagles, Lane Johnson, after the game, said, like, you know, Roquan Smith was calling out plays like Luke Keekly, and he's basically never seen that before.
So is the reason you have all those sacks because Roquan's going up to you before the play? Like, hey, Kyle, they're going to roll out to the left here, just chase them down and get the sack. Or have you ever played with anyone like Roquan Smith? Because the stories about him right now are absurd, and he's got 150 tackles on the season already.
Yeah, Roquan's the leader of the defense emotionally. He is special.
I think he's five or six tackles away from being the fastest or second fastest player ever to 1,000. Don't quote me on that, but I think it's something like that.
Okay, hashtag stat that. Hashtag stat that.
That's when we just make up a stat that's close. Hashtag stat that somebody would do that searching he's special though uh he's similar into the born to play middle linebacker like hightower uh dante hightower where they just have this intuition this feeling um similar to ray lewis when he played where they just know football so well that they're able to take what they see in film or not even watching film but just look at what's going on take a snap photo and be like all right this is the play this is what they're doing um and it's been awesome to be a part of uh roquan, his career, just being a little spoke in his his wheel, because, you know, he's going to be a Hall of Famer, in my opinion, if he continues to keep what he's doing at this high level of play that he's got.
And, you know, they have such an amazing core with the Ravens that I don't think it's talked about enough.

You now have a young Nate Wiggins to go along.

Kyle, Kyle Hamilton, Roquan Smith, you got Adafi, you got Travis Jones, Nnamdi, so many good players on defense as well as offense with their core. I just have a feeling that the Ravens are going to be tough to deal with, not only the rest of this year, just years to come.

Zach Orr, you mentioned Zio earlier.

He's 32 or something like that.

31.

31, defense coordinator.

Yeah, he's younger than me.

Yeah, I bet you he says you're old ass.

I bet you it's what he said.

Not that we can say.

All right, here you go.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, no, we would never say that.

Beard looks good, by the way.

No grays.

Yeah, looks great.

No grays.

Is there a little bit of salt in there?

Thank you. Your old ass.
I bet you it's what he said. Not the weird shit.
All right, here you go. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, no, we would never say that. Beard looks good, by the way.
No grays? Yeah, looks great. No grays.
Is there a little bit of salt in it? There's a little bit on the side. You know, we got to keep a good start, though.
It looks good, though. You know? It does.
Playoff beer, maybe. Ooh.
Maybe we'll get a playoff beer. Maybe a big one.
Yeah. Nah, that's only Julian Edelman.
He looks stank with that, so I'm good on that. What? lot, isn't he? He's handsome, but I'm talking about when he gets that bushy beard.
Think strong. Yeah, that is a powerful beard, Kyle.
Also, happy Hanukkah to Julian Edelman. Six crazy nights left.
Six crazy nights left on the menorah, obviously. Happy holidays, Mary.
You see that? I know you went to BYU, so this isn't your holiday, but we're celebrating, you know, happy holidays, everybody says. We learned a lot about this.
You go right to left on this thing. You go right to left on this thing, yeah.
Because that's the way... Yeah, we're celebrating that at BYU now, too, because of the quarterback.
Retzloff. B-Y-Jew is what they were calling him.
That's all I... That was the nickname.
That was the nickname. We got a big game Saturday against Colorado.
We didn't get a dub. I feel...
Uh-oh. Yeah.
You don't think so? Everybody's playing. You kind of been loving your hater last week.
No, I have not. No, No, I have not.
I love BYU. You guys just got the number one basketball recruit to go to BYU.
AJ, shout out to Booster. Who's that? Who's that? I know all of them.
That's good relationships. That's good relationships.
There's good relationships to keep. They helped me out in college, too? Death penalty That was before the NIL Just with meals Relax just with meals Oh yeah of course Yeah Jim Harbaugh missed four games Because of a cheeseburger never forget it What a wild thing college sports was before Everybody's talking about how wild it is now it definitely is how about before don't even think about eating that chicken nugget don't you do it did you pay for it are they giving it to you to play sports no way well what about the pianist that's allowed to go sell out massive square garden and they're in college they're allowed to that it's not an athlete that's music shut up you're not allowed to do anything well what about the person that does any of the art and the painting and they're in college you're allowed to sell their painting because of their talent that they have are they special or shut up okay so just because i'm a sports person i'm not allowed to profit off that's right shut up you ain't no artist okay and then now it's like i do have a question for you um with you being a very big spokesperson with um how the time slots have been with the games um how how do you believe those are going to switch in the future for example like last night's game no offense crap no offense at at all.
How do you think they're going to do that because of all the juggling? And as a player being in it now, I think it would be tough to be like, hey, you're playing Sunday, and then all of a sudden, screw you. You got a good matchup.
You're playing Thursday. Well, I think it would have to be a couple weeks in advance.
I think that would be the case case now granted you just want saturday to wednesday three and eleven in the middle and just had three in 11 days so like i i don't want to say acting like them just forcing you guys from going one day to maybe a couple days early is out of the picture because they literally just did it you know at this point i think they've proven that they're willing to shake up the schedule now you guys knew it was going to take place i guess, I guess, looking long-term at the schedule in this entire... Yeah, but we also had a bye week, too, to help gear for that.
Other teams didn't. I think that was huge for us.
Just having a bye week to get mentally ready for this stretch was huge. I just think that networks, they're scared to flex.
Networks are, like, scared to flex. And I think if they had to do it a couple weeks out, so teams would be able to get their schedules in order and everything, completely understandable.
And this is as somebody that's in the media and is a fan of the sport as opposed to a player. Players are going to hate basically anything that comes out of this.
You know what I mean? If they add an extra game, 18 games, and they add an extra bye week, obviously there's going to be people pissed off about everything, but that's seemingly inevitable at some point coming down the pipe the international games there's going to become more i think there's going to be more of those that are going to take place and when do the buys happen around those guy teams got week four buys yeah yeah week four yeah that's crazy that's i think the chargers had that yeah that's a long season coming after that so i i think like Like, the whole whole how will they be able to do it? Would they do it? How can players handle it? It's like players have been having to handle shit since. You know what I mean? I'm not saying it's fair.
I'm not saying it's fair to players. No, that's fair that we've been handling shit.
Yeah, and they just sneak it in. It's like, hey, they paid $150 million for two games, so we all like the salary cap where it is right so we are going to give them two good games that is what we are going to do and then we are going to make this happen it's like amazon that being their last one it's like i don't know if playoff game too this year yeah and hopefully it's great we'll assume it'll be great yeah but i don't know if bezos is going to love that the conversation after the last Thursday night football game is,

worst game in the fucking history of football.

And he's got real deep pockets.

And for the first time this year, the conversation was for a little bit.

They had five or six Thursday night games that were unbelievable.

But for them to close out on a couple of terrible ones is tough.

What have you done for me lately?

And I'll talk to you because you guys blew out the Texans, which is part of the problem. We're kind of talking about how the NFL has been the way it has.
Why do you think those happen sometimes? I don't think anybody's ever been able to accurately describe why sometimes a team just doesn't show up or why a team slaughters another one. And obviously you've been in the game a long time.
You were a part of a demolishing of the Texans on Christmas Day in front of the entire world entire world 24 points some million average congratulations that's huge why do you think that happened not because of me because of the marvelous bro not because of me at all okay so lj's playing grint bro that's what that's what you think it is that's what you think the difference maker is if your quarterback's unconscious i mean he's playing unreal right now i got nothing but love for lj um it's so fun to play with a player like him he's i'll always say he's one-on-one it's it's crazier in person too i don't think the tv and camera and all that does justice to how elite he is with the ball in his hand um and just him being the type of person he is too makes it that much better he's such a good dude such a smart dude too um and just he might he might make me go buy some grills at this rate i know i'm i tell people i'm from broward because because I have so many Florida teammates over my career,

but he's about to make me go get some grills too the way he's playing.

I mean, it's electric and he makes everybody else play better around him.

And the way he's locked in right now and, you know, before the game,

he kept, I was, this game happened to be the locker next to him.

He just kept saying, it's up. It's up.
It's up, KB. It's up.
And I was like, yeah. After the game, I was like, yeah, boy.
It's up. We were way up there.
That touchdown right there with the new Hunter in his face, let alone this one where he said he's jogging 21.25 miles an hour, the fastest. Yeah, he always says that, and I believe that.
He always says that. I i i he's looked faster in practice than he has in the game and i think it's because he likes talking trash to the players he knows a little bit better well and also you know whenever you're with a couple friends and a bear starts chasing you you don't have to be the fastest one you just can't be the slowest one if you are the slowest one you just have to be faster than the bear so all lam All Lamar has to be faster than whoever's chasing him.
We'll find out. If they can somehow put Tyreek at safety and have him have to chase Lamar, I think Lamar's going to get out of there.
Whatever the case. You're saying the reason why...
Five more games than we can get them on the show. Remember, I told you five.

What happened?

He's coming on the program?

In five games.

We got to win five games.

After the last game.

You're booking them on the show?

How's this work?

Yeah, I said this last time.

I don't remember.

Remind me what you said.

When I was talking to you, he said that he would come on

if we get past that last game.

That's a great reminder.

That's awesome.

I did not remember that.

I can't believe I didn't remember that

because that would be so sweet.

Not that your face isn't awesome

in between me and AJ.

No, no, no.

I would be against him.

It would be like...

Oh, okay.

Okay, great.

So we would zoom in on one. Sorry.
I'm joking. I'm joking.
I'm joking. Keith, I'm locked, man.
Alright. That was rude.
How about you being called Keith Van Noy less than a year ago? Yeah. And then now he has 11 and a half sacks.
Two-year deal with the Ravens. Eat it.
And they're on an absolute run.

I mean, it is a... Is it for you?

Oh, my God.

And then Zito just told me that your name on the Zoom sign-in

is Keith, lower left corner.

Shout out to you.

We appreciate you doing that.

We appreciate you doing that, Keith.

You don't deserve any of it,

but we appreciate the hell out of you, Kyle.

Did you get a chance to see the halftime show?

I know Lamar was thinking about it. your thoughts it's country you know i my wife got to see it she was more excited about that than watching the game she said it was electric post malone showed up too and then i think it was dope that she highlighted her daughter i saw the highlights of uh you know a little bit and i think it's dope that she's putting on her daughter like the way she is i think the daughter is going to be a superstar yeah i think i think blue has a chance yeah yeah i think blue certainly it's a little bit i think blue has a chance yeah they were line dancing a little bit and then there's more information coming out about who all was on the field i believe that is uh somebody's band uh somebody's entire band that was joining her out there i believe like the first ever african-american rodeo champion was out there at one point i think there's like a bunch of little hidden gems yeah sure inside the entire performance it was just i, reported this morning or whatever it was.

The way they reported the numbers, they said the Beyonce Bowl had the peak amount of people

watching at the time.

It was like, when's Bay on?

We're going to do it. I will say,

I think she did a couple finger guns.

Uh-oh. That's messed up.

I think she did a couple finger guns.

Hey, does Harbaugh tell you guys, no invisible

guns, no actual guns, don't even make you think like it's a gun? What is the conversation around that? Because Xavier Worthy, I don't know, hold up, get the bat, and then just, everybody play cool here. Now, we did learn that that invisible gun had a silencer on it and a banana clip.
And a banana clip, which is why I think they said it went a little bit too far. Can't be having an AR with a silencer on it in your belt especially during football game that was what the ref potentially saw an invisible gun but what is the con this was a big part of the storyline earlier in the year kind of disappeared now it's back on christmas do you guys talk about it over there yeah pat we just talked about trying to get any penalties at our rate yeah oh.
Oh, is that real? We haven't been the best this year with penalties, you know. So it's been a hot topic of conversation within our team of trying to do the best that we can to eliminate the penalties.
But it's, I mean, none of our, I don't think any of our players have been doing the gun thing. I don't get it.
Like personally, like, well, I get the, like, I'm, I'm strapping you as a receiver, like, what are we doing? But, you know, I, I don't, I don't think it should, it doesn't do a good job of going to the younger generation. I see these seven-on-seven kids doing it.
It looks stupid. You know, I'm all for celebration, too.
I'm like Chad Ocho Cinco. I think it needs to be in the game.
I just think you need to come up with something a little bit more clever. Shout out to the Minnesota Vikings defense, Cam Bonham.
I think he's leading that. They're making it pretty dope on celebrations this year.
We agree completely, wholeheartedly. On Christmas, showing up, obviously didn't expect that, but a lot of great football remaining.
Can't wait to watch your team continue to do its thing. We appreciate the hell out of you, Keith.
Yep, thanks. Keith, a.k.a., Kyle Vannoy, that's how I'm going to go now.
no kyle kyle kyle you hey super bowl champ super champ how many years now 11 years in two times super bowl champ you ever just take him out and say wow you know what my favorite one is the next one is that what you say no that's tom you only can do that if you're getting like seven. You get three.
I mean, that's. Yeah.
And you still got another. Oh.
If I get one more, baby. You're tired.
I'm going to come to this show live. I'm going to come to this show live.
Flex on everybody. Come on in.
All three of them. Come on in.
And flexing is what we're talking about when it comes to these matchups at night.

We need more flexing.

More flexing.

We need these networks to bring you boom.

Yeah, exactly.

Flex a little bit, just like you.

Ladies and gentlemen, what year is this for you?

12?

11.

Wow.

Still bringing it.

Incredible.

11-year NFL vet.

Two-time Super Bowl champion.

A stallion of a story. He was the couch too nobody wanted him nobody wanted this guy oh shut up Van Noy that's what they said hold on one more thing one more thing before I do leave is I truly hope there's more GMs that take.
I know it's a young man's league. I do hope GMs take advantage and give more veteran players some contracts.
I know there's some players that I know that definitely could still be playing. One that comes to mind is Bryce Callahan.
Had a hell of a career. I always think about him knowing that he could still be playing.

There's so many other guys. And I hope some teams will take a couple more flyers on some guys.
Practice squad's kind of helping people do that, right? Because like even vets can get on practice squad now. So it's like a tryout for like a week or two.
Yes and no. It depends.
All different teams are different. I just think personally there's some veteran guys can sneak in there and actually do some damage personally if they get put in the right position what i was saying is like they opened up the practice squad for it used to be just for young guys first four years then they open it up for vets after covid and they kind of started i don't know if they did that with you or not over there in balt, but teams have started using it as like a tryout.
Like, all right, let's get two weeks in for this older, old head. Okay, he's been around veteran.
See if he's still got it. See if he's in shape and how he fits into our thing.
They gave it like a two week try. I thought it was a good usage of the process.
For me, they said that, hey, we're going to, you're going to be active right away.

We just want to see you being in shape. And then they told me that, like, the roster thing.
But that also has to be trust, too, because, you know, they could have said, hey, we want you to come in and then, you know, go a different direction. So it's got to be a trust on both levels.
And, you know, you player and look at it and see like okay how's this stack up for me as well um so it just worked out great for me the ravens organization has been awesome to me the management has been you know really good to me like joe hortiz was awesome to me too who's's now with the chargers. When I was, when I was there for my first year, he was awesome.
Um, their EDC has been awesome to me. So there's so many, uh, guys that communicate, um, at that level, uh, for the Ravens organization to make a clear plan for you.
And then it was awesome to be able to execute it

and actually, you know,

what they're saying is actually happening.

It doesn't happen everywhere like that.

Leeds you signing a two-year deal off the couch.

Phenomenal stuff.

EDC, great nickname for DaCosta.

Oy, oy, oy, oy.

He's EDC.

Oy, oy, oy.

That's a fantastic name. I'm happy it's working out.
So are the Baltimore Ravens. Kyle, you got, what, the Browns? Was that what you said last game? Yep, Browns for the hat and t-shirts in the division, baby.
We gotta go. That same energy, we need to turn it up a whole notch.
I don't know who's playing quarterback. You know, I know Miles Garrett's still balling over there defensively, keeping them boys hungry and ready.

We got to go, though.

One sack, we think that's good

if he gets a full sack.

Not a jump on, Paul.

I will say, too,

I really need one for some

of this. I need one for some of this.

For some of that for you

and $50,000 to a donation,

you get a sack next Sunday. okay you charity man bro hey i forgot to say you're the man for donating to mark andrews bro that was that was badass for you to do uh manrews doesn't do many interviews so getting him doing an interview was dope but i respect you doing that especially during the holidays where it means a lot you know I appreciate it that whole money will go to my foundation which is the Van Hoyt Valor Foundation okay we we work with foster care kids because I'm actually adopted um so is my wife's dad and brother so it hits home for us and we work with a lot of kids in foster care so man think about your life story mean a lot so we need to get this day sack yeah go get the sack for yourself obviously for uh the donation of 50 000 to the van noy valiant knights but also like think of your story dude it's a good one man you're changing a lot of lives you're going to inspire inspire people forever, especially as an old-ass NFL pass rusher.
We appreciate the hell out of you, Kyle. Yep, old.
Ladies and gentlemen. Thank you.
Love you guys, man. Appreciate you.
Let's go. Kyle Van Doren.
Yeah, Kyle. So I wonder if it's 12 or 12 and a half.
I wonder what the incentive is. I wonder what it is.
It's got to be 12, right? Because he's got 11 and a half he get? You think $500K, something that much? I assume maybe $250,000, maybe $500,000. Maybe it's a fucking million.
It could be. 12 sacks in a year 11? I don't know.
It's definitely career high. I assume when they're signing him to a two-year deal at this stage in April, they signed him to it, I think.
I assume there was a lot of incentives to go and get it and chase it if we win a Super Bowl

if we win a playoff game if you get this amount

12 sacks is probably a pretty high end

Leads the team

They weren't expecting 12 sacks out of him

when he signed I would imagine

$250,000 I wonder what other

$250,000 is what it is worth

is it 12 or more sacks?

So he gets $250,000 for 10, 12, and 14

Okay so hey

he gets two and a half more sacks

That's $500,000 I'm not gets two and a half more sacks.

Hold the phone.

That's 500,000.

I'm not saying he's going to do that, but hey, why not?

It's the brands.

Jeez.

Whoa, dude.

Come on.

I mean, what are we talking about?

How are you doing?

DTR?

I'm feeling bronze.

10 sacks, he hit 250,000 already. So 12 sacks would have been 500,000 is what the bonus would have been, which is huge.
14 sacks would be $750,000 in bonuses. And then 7 sacks plus 50% of the playing time, which has already happened, that's another $250,000.
So if he gets 2.5 sacks, that's $1 million in bonuses. That's awesome.
Hey, that's good football, baby. Good for him.
Hey, that's very, very good for him. I appreciate the 10 sacks, you sacks, you think? All right, we'll give you 250, eh? Get to 12, not 250.
14, sure. Whatever.
What if you get 20? Sure. What if they just start adding? Give me 20 million bucks.
It's like, good for him. He's only getting better, he said.
I'm just fully focused on rushing the passer. I've been studying other people's film.
It is Feel Good Friday. That means that we have to pick the games.
Age've been seeing the board very very well you need to know that as you continue to look ahead both of us all of us lost last night uh because we took seattle minus four and a half so chuck's cold streak continues good chuck is now seven and nine on a season against spro on thursday night football that's near how the season started. But Chuck, as we know,

we'll get right back on the horse and give us some winners at some point.

Just like how these crop games have been happening,

the good is going to inevitably come.

AJ's good has come

because for a lot of the season,

he was crop at picking these games.

Absolute shite.

But then all of a sudden,

over the last couple of weeks,

AJ's seen it clearly.

Clear eyes, full hearts.

AJ seemingly can't lose right now.

Let's remember that as he's making the picks, he's seeing it good. But also, there's a lot in line for a lot of these games.
Let's never forget it. AJ, let's pick against the entire spread.
Chargers favored by four and a half. Traveling into New England at one o'clock tomorrow on a beautiful Saturday triple header.
Back to back to back. All day football only on NFL Network.

Con man, what is the conversation around this game up in New England?

The conversation predominantly right now is just about the culture and the future of the Patriots when it comes to the Gerard Mayo era.

When it comes to this game in particular, Jim Harbaugh gave an awesome speech

kind of about the entire thing.

This is what he had to say at his press conference, which was awesome.

Which was so cool and awesome.

We had a little rainfall last week, one day of practice.

That was great to have that.

But, you know, most all of us have played in those kind of games, you know,

or grew up in that kind of weather, you know.

And bottom line is, I mean, these guys are young young they're uh healthy and their heart pumps warm blood you know pumps it from the auguries to the veins to tributaries to the capillaries throughout their whole body you just you just play ball that's been my I've not got that in the wrong order there. It's well documented.
I'm not a doctor. But I know it's warm blood.
You know, the young, healthy, athletic guys are able to generate. I don't hear a thing about you guys being cold.
You got warm blood pumping through the tributaries and the capillaries, out from there through the veins. So inside's warm.
You need to deal with the outside being warm as well. If he was to go in there, though, with that Chargers team favored by four and a half and put on a good display, it's going to get loud in New England? Yeah, it might get a little loud.
There has been reports, hey, crafts are behind Gerard Mayo for sure,

but we've all kind of seen the tea leaves.

There's been a lot of comments from players,

which some of them completely backing Gerard Mayo.

David Andrews said on his show, like, hey, this is going to build.

We're going to get better.

None of us want it to be like this.

There are still guys on the team who are with the team

when it was the Brady era winning championships and stuff like that. And then there's guys like Keon White in their second year.
He kind of gave an interview with Mass Live Sports, I want to say, and basically said, like, yeah, look, first and foremost, I got to figure it out, but it's not just me, okay? There's a lot of stuff going on here, and we need to all get on the same page, coaches, players so it's not great right now uh so a blowout for the chargers the patriots may be losing by 14 17 at home prime time only game not prime time but it's only game on there's not many people in the stadium maybe a few of the uh boo birds what come flying out i don't know again i don't think that's gonna happen i great about Patriots plus four and a half. I'm completely behind the ship.
And Drake May, as we all know, is so good at football, which is why I like the Bears being in primetime because it reminds me every single time they're in primetime how good Drake May is. But with that being said, if things go south, Chargers are going for a playoff spot here.
Have to win for them. It could get ugly in New England, but it's a 10 o'clock local kick for the Chargers.
Something to think about when you're thinking about this. Yeah, especially with the tributaries.
They might not be all the way open for that blood. AJ, are you picking up what Connor's laying down here? What's going to happen this weekend? Yeah, I am a little bit.
I was leaning Patriots, to be honest with you. And then after seeing the hardball thing, listen to Con Man talk about the culture and everything going on, I'm taking Chargers minus four and a half.
I will ride with you as well. Gonna be loud up there.
Now if it's a close game, everything's okay, right? If it's competitive, I think so. I still think everything's okay.
Regardless. To be completely honest with you.
Yeah, but it is there are some. There is a lot of noise, but you gotta block out the noise.
You gotta harness all the good stuff you got, like Drake May. That's right, and Drake May is a great thing.
Broncos, Bengals, Bengals favored by three and a half at home. Both these teams lurking, obviously need it.
AJ, how do you see it going? Man, this Broncos defense is awesome. I love what they're doing, but I'm taking Joe Burrow and the Bengals.
I mean, Joe's having a legit, like, MVP-type year, but obviously the Bengals don't have enough wins, but give me the Bengals on this one. Okay, Jamar Chase, Joe Burrow, Broncos defense, 430 game in Cincinnati in the jungle.
This was one that was certainly keeping me guessing. Both need to win.
Broncos got Chiefs next week. Who's all playing?

How's it playing?

Broncos need to win one of the games, right?

That's it?

Yeah.

Broncos need to just win one of them?

I believe the Bengals need the Broncos to lose both.

We need the Bengals to win for the lurking teams to stay lurking.

That's right.

Okay.

But I've been making picks with my lurking hopes over the last couple weeks,

and it's been not great for me because it's a lot of different things that

need to happen.

I'm going to roll with Broncos

plus three and a half. Okay.

Bengals minus three and a half. Bengals

minus three and a half. Final answer.

Cardinals ramp. Broncos

are getting better.

They did just lose that heartbreaker on Thursday night.

That's a lot for Sean Payton to be able

to pull from with a team.

They don't have $43 million in their

salary. There's no way they're

able to make the playoffs.

Give me the Bengals minus three and a half.

Cardinals, Rams, Rams,

six and a half point favorites at home

in a game that they also kind of must win.

Man, six

and a half feels like so much for this game. I don't know

why it is this much, but give me

the Rams. I think they win by a touchdown or more.
Okay, give me the... How's Kyler normally play in L.A.? Good? I remember him dapping up.
Great. The last one I remember, which is definitely not the last time he played, but was the playoff game where the Rams went to the...
ended up going to the Super Bowl. That year, they lost like 31-6.
2-7 versus the Rams in his career. Alright, I'll take the Rams, minus six and a half.
Let's get to Sunday's games, shall we? Cowboys, Eagles, who do you like? How do you like it? Give me the Eagles here, minus seven. I will take that.
Go ahead. Jalen Hurts looks like right now it's going to be tough for him to make it, says Siriano.
Give me the Cowboys, actually.

Mike McCarthy's got those boys playing.

Seven points feels like a lot.

CD as well.

CD shoulder is finally a thing.

Give me the Philadelphia Eagles, minus seven.

Tennessee.

Mike McCarthy's going to get blown out like that.

Saquon.

He's close to the record.

Yeah.

Give me the Philadelphia Eagles, minus seven.

Tennessee Titans, Jacksonville Jaguars. Titans favorite on the road down in Duval.
Give me the Titans minus one. Okay, I will agree with you there.
Colts, Giants. Colts favored by seven and a half in MetLife.
The Colts actually have more wins in MetLife Stadium than the Giants do this year because the Colts beat the New York Jets over there. Giants are 0-7 at home, I do believe.
Bruce Brown, is there any reason to like the Giants team this weekend? Due to rain in the forecast, the planes that have been flying around Miz Life Stadium are unable to operate, so there will be no cell team. The drones? No, the cell team banners that we've been flying around.
Oh, that's bringing bad orbs from a pop. Yeah, well, there was some hope that might inspire the boys, but obviously it hasn't.
The tank is on. Some reports from players that they aren't tanking, but we are.
Players can't tank, but coaches certainly can, especially if they're comfortable with their job. Give me the Colts favored by 7.5, Age.
Same with me. Give me Colts.
Panthers, Bucs. Bucs favored by 7.5.
Got a win? I want the Bucs. Me as well.
Jets, Bills, 9.5. Favorite at home are the Buffalo Bills taking on Aaron Rodgers? Jets, they keep it close.
I agree. He's got a new love in his life.
I think Bills win. Raiders, Saints.
Raiders favored by 1 in New Orleans. Give me the Raiders.
Okay, I guess me too. That's sad for the Saints.
It's not looking good down there. Dolphins, Browns, 6.5? 6.5 is DTR, the starter for the Cleveland Browns? Believe so.
Give me the Browns. Give me the Dolphins, Packers, Vikings? Packers.
Give me the Vikings. Falcons, Commanders? Commanders.
I'll take the Commanders as well. And we'll continue on digital.
Have a good one. We'll see you Monday.
Nailed it. Wow.
I like that. I think we got it all in there.
I think we got it all in there. Good for us.
Holy shit. That was quite the run.
That was unbelievable. When we went to the Sunday graphic, I think I didn't expect that many games to be over there.
Yeah. Yeah.
Me too. Yeah.
And then as we didn't knock out the saturday ones either so we had to catch up quickly to where they were at you found it quick yeah i had to then i in my head as i was saying dallas eagles i was counting all the other games i'm like damn how many other we got a lot of games to get through here we certainly did i feel good about them all but I shouldn't because I've been ice cold. AJ has been red hat out there.
Jets bills. Aaron's got a girl.
He does. It's a whole new ball game.
Brittany with an eye. Just like you see Josh Allen.
Got a lady in love, engaged. See the way he's playing.
He gets two touchdowns. He's the first player in NFL history to have 40 touchdowns in five straight seasons.

Who's that?

Josh Allen.

Is that good?

It's not bad. Do you win an MVP over the last five seasons? No, you do not.
Tell me about this year. That's an AP voter.
Did you know, and I learned this yesterday from a video from, I believe, an AP voter as well. Acha, the host of

The Facility

on Fox Sports 1

released a video that he got me... What the hell was that? What the hell? I didn't know.
It took me by surprise. I forgot the whole situation here.
What do you mean you forgot the whole situation? That he finishes it for you. You always forget what the name of the show is in that time he finishes that.
The facility.

Yes, absolutely.

And we enjoy that.

Players leading the show is a beautiful thing.

Like, we're a big fan of that.

We think it's good for sports to have the players telling their side.

And obviously, that doesn't mean journalists have to disappear.

There's a world where both can coexist. Feels like the journalists kind of took over for a long time.

Long, long, long time long long long time long time long time and then now more athletes and sports are starting there's a obviously coexist you hope in this entire thing ocho has an ap vote is what i learned i would assume so and he basically laid out that he got an email reminding him and other voters that he thought was important to share the word with uh the the public is we're not talking about best player winning the mvp we're talking about the most valuable player the v is for valuable not best so he said whenever you're talking about it make sure the person you're talking to is having the same conversation you're having because the argument's always going to be best player is this person saquonon's having the best season. He might beat Eric Dickerson's record, even though Eric Dickerson's like, I hope that doesn't happen.
He fucking better not. I hope that doesn't happen.
Obviously, Eric Dickerson was like, I'd like to keep my record. A lot of people say records are made to be broken.
Eric Dickerson said he's happy for Saquon. He's a big fan of Saquon.
Obviously loves everything Saquon's doing, but also cool to be a Russian king. Yes.
Very cool to be a Russian king. So a lot of people are going to say, he's by far the best player.
He's doing something that's never been done before, literally and figuratively. He's a massive part of the game.
And also I said, well, he's your most valuable player, though. How come you didn't tell us about the email you got from the AP? And how much did you forget that this isn't the most best player? This is the most valuable

player. AP Tone, our representative

in the voting thing. He's not

sharing the emails with us, is he?

No, I haven't heard anything about this, and to

be completely honest with you, what

Acho said did kind of

reshape what I was thinking. Hand up.

I thought

that majority of

sports fans, NFL fans, knew that the V stood for valuable. That was violence.
Could have been the most violent player, especially for trying to go old school to the jacked-up segment. That should be an award.
Yeah, should. Most violent player should be an award.
Not a bad idea. Maybe you should use your AP status and push for that.
I'll send an email. It's a big email group.
But, no, that was on. I thought most people knew that MVP, the V was from...
How many emails are you guys getting from these people? No kidding. It's basically like a group text, but with emails.
Group email. Oh, man.
Man, we haven't been told about any of these. Can we go through them? You should see the email chain on Sundays.
Who are you guys voting for? Whoa, did you see that play? Are you serious right now? Yeah. I don't know if you're being serious right now because we have heard nothing about this.
At all.

I'm not allowed to talk about it.

That was my big takeaway from Macho's video.

It was like, how many fucking emails have I been getting?

Email thread.

Yeah, we didn't know anything about this.

Excuse me?

So you guys are in there?

You're not active?

I have to keep a spare charger on my phone every Sunday just because of the amount of emails.

Turn your notifications off is a pretty easy thing to do.

Then you miss the emails.

No, you catch up with them later. So what are you saying? If you catch up with them later in this group email, you can't participate.
Is this real? I don't know what's real and what isn't real. Realer than real.
Realer than the blood flowing through my veins. In the capillaries.
So you guys are getting a lot of emails, though?

Stats and stuff?

One at the beginning of the season and this one this week. And it was a reminder saying,

hey, the awards. It was the actual, we got the form.

Wait, who sent it, though?

Rob Motte. He's our leader.

Okay.

Did Acho send another email letting you guys know

what this email was about?

He did not reply all.

Feels like that's something he should have done. Bingo.
As Gumpy just said, we would implore Ocho to reply all, please, into this thing. That's great.
And also, thank you, Ocho, for informing us on what happens as an AP voter, because we have one on the stage. He doesn't tell us anything.
This guy didn't fucking say shit. We're hanging around him all day.
Aren't we? We're with him all day. Asking about the AP all day.
Not told a single thing. I have to watch Acho give a minute 30 diatribe about valuable and best and then I, sweet, that is a good reminder.
J.J. Watt was all pissed off about this when he didn't win the MVP.
He said, you know, he did the whole thing. That's years ago when it all takes place in its conversation.
It's like, this is a good reminder. Also, how about a reminder to our guy to tell us, hey, what the fuck's going on in the AP world? That's not part of the job.
That was on me. I hold you guys in high regard.
I figured you would have known that. That was the only thing they said in the email was, hey, the MVP is not the best.
They didn't say anything in the email. They just attached the two forms for voting and he, Acho, just read MVP and then he might have taken that on himself to take that interpretation.
Oh, so that was not in the email? Hold on. We go from 50 emails a Sunday to potentially that email saying nothing.
What is Rob Marty doing? Because we're about to say he's the head APIC. You know what i mean i'm looking at the the email right now okay it just says happy holidays to you and your families you know that's nice that is very nice all pro ballots are due by 5 p.m eastern monday january 6th and the awards are 5 p.m eastern uh wednesday january 8th it doesn't say anything about you know valuable or anything like that so in form.
We will receive a separate email with snap counts. Make sure I've played enough snap counts.
Stuff like that. Does it have a description of the award in the form that you have to submit? You saw it.
I mean, you saw it. Acho put it on the internet.
Oh. I watched.
It wasn't in that video, I don't think. I watched the whole video.
I'm looking at it right here. It says, most valuable player.
The award honors a player who had the most valuable season. So that's where.
Okay. I'm thankful that there's some people in the AP that care.
Coach of the year. The award honors a coach who did the best job.
In case anybody was wondering who coach of the year goes to. Okay, so it sounds like.
This guy. Tone.
See, that's what we do. Assistant coach of the year.
The award honors an assistant coach who did the best job. If we're just clarifying all these, we can do this.
Okay, sorry. One AP voter kind of explained to the world what one AP voter chose not to say.
I've been wondering how the fucking sausage gets made. Some guy says, you know what? Boom.
This is how it gets made. This is the comeback player of the year now because this one was a hot topic.
The spirit of the award is to honor a player who has demonstrated resilience in the face of adversity by overcoming illness, physical injury, or other circumstances that led to him missing playing time the previous season. Sucking.
Yeah. I'm happy you guys clarified that.
What about a mental injury? What if he had had a down year because mentally he was in dumps? Yeah, could have. This guy couldn't read a defense.
Mentally, he was unhealthy as shit. It's up to interpretation by you.
I feel like, I guess not because DeMar didn't get hurt last year. I was like, DeMar could win it this year because he's played so well.
I believe there's a heavy favorite for coming back later. Who's that? The sportsbooks.
Joe Burrow? Yeah, I have a heavy favorite for Joe Burrow. Oh, okay.
You can't tell us who you're voting for, obviously. That is actually one of the rules that Rob Motti said earlier.
That's right. Don't need you saying who you're actually voting for.
Okay, so Burrow injury, that is what we're going off of now. Come back.
Yeah, I have to. Yeah, most improved could potentially be one as well.
Yeah, should make that. That should be.
Most violent player we would like to see. Most improved.
Best pen tosser. That's on me.
I wouldn't win that. I think you'd be close, though.
You might... Just what Fanatic says.
Fanatic says, we give out 10 million orders, we get 14 wrong. Okay.
Which would be wrong. They get way more than 14 wrong.
But they could certainly say that. That's what you were just saying about your pen tossing.
It's anytime I have my hair elastic in my hand and I forget I have it in my hand. It blocks it.
Bingo. And then I do it and I forget that I have it and then disaster.
AJ, you hear this guy's basement and attic here earlier today? I heard he's bad on a little bit, huh? He is. What happened? What'd eat? Or I guess Big D-Bone just fed it right to you the other day?

He gave it to you?

Yeah, see, I knew the wording from you would be interesting.

No, I don't know.

You know, you never know.

It's that time of the year.

I'm not going to blame it on anybody.

Where you dump your pants?

We can point fingers all day.

I don't think you dump your pants this time of year.

I don't want to be like the doctor guy.

Yeah, that's true.

Because I'm not a doctor guy. Sure.
But I don't think like dumping your pants is something. I don't think that's like this time of year.
Yeah don't want to be the doctor guy. Yeah, that's true.
Because I'm not a doctor guy. Sure.

But I don't think dumping your pants is something.

I don't think that's this time of year. Yeah, I agree.

The only time it happened to me was in February

and that was an emergency situation.

It was a much different...

Tacos. Yeah.

Vodka.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Tacos.
Vodka. Tacos.

And Wade. Bruce Bowen.
Wade Bowen? Wade Bowen. God damn it.
Bruce, yeah. Tacos.
Vodka. Tacos.
And Wade. Bruce Bowen.

Wade Bowen?

Wade Bowen.

God damn it.

Bruce Bowen.

Just to be clear, Wade Bowen was incredibly kind.

Sent us a guitar for me to smash after a celebration.

Awesome.

Oh, he said it.

Did he say it?

I didn't know he said it.

Did the note say that?

Yeah.

The note said, hey, this is for you to smash.

Wade Bowen, if I know anything about Wade Bowen, he was excited that he was part of a celebration. No doubt.
I thought it was sweet. I'm kind of bummed I don't have a guitar right now.
Like earlier, whenever he said Deliverance, my first thought was... There's that Wade Bowen guitar.
Bingo. And I saw it explode right down there.
How about Gunnar Stockton being from Deliverance Town, USA, down in Georgia? I also saw an article recently where he's just driving around a like 1990 f-150 just no ac windows down living his best life yeah and nick said i've known him since he's eight years old he said he can move a lot better than the other guy it's like they did better in the second half than they did in the first half it's like oh nick really likes gunner it sounds like he is a big fan of Gunnar. Did Nick just say, feel like they might have got better, all right, with Gunnar Stockton being in there? Because that is the big question.
Carson Beck, obviously, being talked about as one of the greatest quarterbacks in college ball, going to go into the NFL. The season has gone the way it's gone for Georgia and for Carson Beck.
Gunnar gets in there, showcases how tough he is. Boy, it's one tough dog.
It's one tough dog.

How about Sam and Sam, we recruited him to Alabama.

It feels like he was always going to be a dog.

The guy loves the state of Georgia. It's like, what a perfect

player to go in there. Isn't this kind of how

old buddy started? Stetson. Yeah, sounds just like

Stetson.

Stetson was a walk-on. Yeah, but he loved

George. He loved the dog.

Raising hell. God, did he love

raising hell.

I think Gunner likes to raise a little hell, too, based on what I'm picking up. Gunnar plays with reckless abandon.
He is. Does not worry about his health.
That is for sure. I love it.
People say he's a damn good dog. Makes him a good dog.
That's how he plays. Them and Notre Dame, that's a game in – I live in Indiana.
So, obviously, Notre Dame is in this state. It's ours away, but it's in this state.
My name is Patrick McAfee. Okay, so I know a lot of Irish people.
I've been told by a lot of them, you never pick Notre Dame, huh? You don't like Notre Dame? What's the thing? Same thing happened with Michigan last year where I just assumed that they were going to lose. And I was wrong, literally wrong the entire time.

And then when it got to the point where I was wrong and knew I was wrong, too late to pick them.

Can't be.

I think it was semifinals.

It's like this Michigan team is very different than what I thought they were.

I thought there were a bunch of prep school kids that were going to be, you know, distracted by everything that was going on with Harbaugh.

And I thought the football gods were going to punish them.

That's what I thought was happening last year.

And then once I realized that that was not the case, and maybe everything

was blown out of proportion just quite a bit,

and Harbaugh doesn't raise any just like up to...

It was like, oh, no,

I've been completely wrong

in reading this team. Am I going to pick him

for the first time? Am I going to... that I have all year?

And I was like, nah.

Fans told me not to pick.

Do not pick our team right now.

But the Irish fans have not done that.

The Irish fans have been like, how come you always pick against us? And I was thinking about this game and I'm like, you know a team I'd never pick against? That one coming down the track? Never. Except for Texas.
When your starting quarterback gets hurt and you're still two-point favorites, that says something. And, like, if this was in the cold, if winter was coming for the Georgia Bulldogs, and not that I think Kirby Smart doesn't have a mentally tough group, which I think is the reason why I like the Bulldogs so much, because I think mentally they're just dogs.
Like, I think that is actually the type of players that Kirby tries to get and the culture that he tries to bring. Not that Freeman isn't a great coach.
I love Marcus Freeman. I love him.
He's an Ohio State Buckeye. That's right.
I appreciate the hell out of the way he goes about his business. If this game was in the cold, I would be starting to lean in a different way.
But my early indications are, who's that coming down? I mean, I thought about it out of nowhere whenever O's was doing a thing. I love the way the Georgia Bulldogs operate.
I just fucking, I love their team. I love bloody Tuesdays.
I love everything about the way they go about doing what they do. But there's another Dame team also.
They're a physical ball. He got some injuries, though, too.
Yeah, D. Lyman, right? Riley Mills is out for the year.
And then Jeremiah Love, there was a bit of a situation there where he wasn't getting that many carries. Well, Sam will say he was just trying to stay warm.
Sam will also say that about Tennessee. That was bad intel.
We couldn't get a camera on that situation because Cameron was shooting up into the upper deck.

Thank God that was happening.

Good B-roll.

Great B. Never used it.

No.

Just like the crane at the Big Ten Championship.

They haven't used a shot yet.

Can we dock all these things, please?

God, so we can see this game.

Made a lot of money for this.

Want to watch Penn State Nittany Lions take on the Oregon Ducks?

You heard Nick Saban earlier, AJ, talk about physicality, you know, tackling.

Tackling.

Tackling.

I'm going to go rusty like you i think it just it heightens the fact that hey say that the offense comes out against you and you miss a few tackles early you don't have the proper leverage you make like kind of like day one mistakes things that happen in the first couple games that's when coaches start getting worried and buttholes get kind of tight on the sideline that's where being in warm climate helps though you know because if you're missing tackles and it's cold like that is you will continue to miss tackles yeah you're not getting better like i think the warm helps because your entire body doesn't hurt every single hit if you haven't done it for a while. In wrestling, they call it ring rust, where your body hasn't been in the ring in a while, and then you take a couple bumps, and then you're sore for four or five days.
Football, same exact thing. That's why training camp the first week is hell for everybody because their bodies are getting beat to shit back into the thing.
You get two or three weeks off, four weeks off, that resets an entire cycle. I don't know how you get it.
There's a rhythm. There's a rhythm to it.
There's a rhythm to the season that you kind of get into. But these guys, also these college teams are having two buys during the season.
That didn't happen. When I was in college, we didn't have any buys.
So we just, boom, straight through. Yeah, and these coaches and facilities are at an advanced level whenever you have all the metrics and everything.
I'd be worried, though, if I didn't play for four, three, four weeks. Yeah, for sure.
I'd be very – I would be – You always were. Coming out of bowl practice, coaches always were – they were always very anxious.
I don't know if nervous is the right word, but leading up to that game, as you got closer to, like, okay, I think we're ready. We've done everything we possibly can, but let's see once we get out there if we still are the team we were four weeks ago a lot speaking of four weeks ago a lot of people are pitching that just because you won a championship doesn't mean you get the buy so that means teams that didn't win the championships would get buys that means they're not even playing in their conference championship game so that's another week 10 days ahead of that so that's like over a month before your last game and then bang, you're playing in the biggest one you got.
I'm not saying that hasn't been how it's been since beginning of college ball, but it's like that's a lot to manage. That's a lot to manage whenever you talk about the physicality of sport.
Yeah, and like Georgia being the only team in the second round that had a bye being favored, like you assume those teams that you know, like Arizona State who is rolling, if they do get blown out or killed there will be a conversation like yeah the bye week actually just took the wind out of our sails because we finished the season so hot well especially this year too like all these teams who played last week they beat the shit out of who they played so like they're coming into these games rolling it's not really like oh they squeaked by kind of you know it's like back in the you know the nfl when like you'd get that sixth seed who would get hot and then like if you're a fan, like the number one seed, it's like, oh shit they squeaked by, kind of. It's like back in the NFL when you'd get that sixth seed who would get hot, and then if you're a fan of the number one seed, it's like, oh, shit, we're rusty coming into this game, and this team looks as good as they have all year.
I also didn't realize, or I did realize, but I'll assume, like conference championships weren't a thing until like the mid-90s. So there is a world where they could go back to just not having conference he bought said that the other day right yeah he said who cares about the conference championship who cares there was no big 10 championship when i played the sec loves it down there they do the sec it is a big deal for it is different but you do it like the nfl like i mean you you win your division you don't have a division championship game at the end of the year it's just based off of your entire season and how much money are they making a bit well that it made sense too when there was like you know and all the there was like the north and the south or the east and the west or whatever but like now it's just it's just one division there aren't two sides anymore and the money thing i mean the maybe you can just say it's based on the teams that were in it, but, like, the tickets to the Big Ten Championship.
$20. Yeah, like, I mean, the SEC.
Sponsorship, though. Yeah, sponsorship.
Dr. Pepper's game.
That stuff. Yeah.
You know, TV deals. Yeah, CBS is paying for that game.
And I think it's become very clear that college football is the number two sport in the United States of America. Yes.
Number two sport. By far.
Yeah. It's been a fact for years now, but now it's like being understood.
Like the NFL is number one. College football is the number two sport in the United States of America.
And then we'll fall down. It's a battle for three at this point.
Bingo. The NHL has a chance.
They're going. I love watching it.
ESPN Plus makes it so much easier. They have a chance.
Now, the NBA, I think, is acknowledging their issue, though. You know, and I think that's big for the NBA.
Now, those numbers, obviously, monstrous and awesome for college ball. TNT and Mox pulling an average of 6.4 million viewers for something.
That's huge. Think about what is on TNT where they try to put people together to make a big number think about golf you know think about everything that they've tried to do to make a big number create a big number put all these stars together to do something whether it was the nba and maybe the inside the nba show those are biggest stars shack biggest star charles barkley biggest i mean youBron, everybody.
They're trying to put that thing together. To average 6.4 million viewers between the SMU Mustangs and the Penn State Nittany Lions, obviously both very good football teams and everything like that.
Penn State has a huge alumni and base and SMU has their own. But that's the sport drawing that.
That's like college football drawing these eyes as opposed to necessarily the stars. And then 8.6 million for the same thing against an NFL game.
It's like, that is huge for anything, let alone football versus football crime. You know, like this is happening at the same time as professional football.
It's like college ball is awesome. And those two TNT games, like those weren't just any NFL games.
That was Chiefs-Texans and Steelers-Ravens. Like those were big fan bases.
Big fan bases. They're going up against there.
Now, not really college fan bases, though. No, but if those NFL games weren't on, those are football fan bases.
And I saw some people saying that they messed this up and you can't be doing it.

It's like Christmas on Wednesday is not going to happen.

So next year, whenever Christmas is on Thursday, the Saturday is going to be wide open.

So that college football playoff slate is going to be gigantic.

The NFL can kind of pick and choose what it wants to go. Once again, pecking order, number one in the entire thing.

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Obviously, they're record-breaking 65 million viewers on a streaming platform as opposed to Bunny Ears cable that is available everywhere. But I think what Michael Mulvihill wanted people to know is, hey, Linear still got the juice yeah still got the juice you know

everybody thinks tomorrow's here but when is it actually going to get here when it's all just

streaming platforms i actually had to think about that a lot when i was trying to decide what we

were going to do with our program you know because we were just a streaming show and then i wanted to

go to a network to get a lot of help you know like uh booking would be cool to help with us

i'm getting sued by people like every three weeks seemingly on this it'd be nice to have a network help us there and then like production on site at places and being able to go live without us having to put together a full zito production and rental space and yada yada yada so going to a network was a decision that was like would like a tag team partner you know has all of it happened no i would say no but like there has been a lot of benefit but one of the other thoughts was like linear tv still matters a lot and like when will it not matter is that five years is that 10 years is that 20 years from that when does linear tv stop mattering people think it's like happening next week i don't i don't think that's true at all i don't i don't think that's true at all but when is that day i think the day is inevitable but when is it i don't think it's going to be until it's kids who are growing up who never had tv who just had like you know we all grew up having tv and like our kids will have tv i mean it's gonna be closer to like netflix and stuff like that but you know like we always assume like why everybody has netflix like no they don't but everyone can fucking plug either the bunny ears in or just something straight from their wall and get cbs and fox like i think it'll be another i mean they're obviously going to keep going towards this but it's going to be another 20 25 years before there is no cable how do they calculate youtube tv numbers for linear ratings because obviously there's a lot of linear channels on there when it's going to be another 20, 25 years before there is no cable. How do they calculate YouTube TV numbers for linear ratings?

Because obviously there's a lot of linear channels on there.

When it's a four box or three box.

I have no idea.

That's a good question.

I think you get one for each, don't you?

Because if you click into it, you can rewind that specific box.

But YouTube TV knows the exact amount of people that are watching everything.

Nielsen is just a projection, right?

Nielsen, old school Nielsen used to be just a projection of the people that have the black box and don't have the black box. And then per capita for every person that has the black box, what is that math to equate what they think? It's an interesting system they've been using for ratings that has been controlling a lot of money for a long time.
This whole, well, we think because this amount of black boxes in there,'ll multiply that by this amount and then how many people are watching in each home total audience delivered math equation is what it's like has anybody ever really known has anybody had a huge impact on everything too think of like all those you hear actors talk about when they were first on a show like friends or whatever like oh it got killed we had terrible ratings i don't know friends did or not but i have heard like actors talk about and then eventually the ratings come around oh then we're doing a six number whatever they talk about the number that they're getting and that depends on if you get picked up for another season like it's crazy who is who's at the top controlling it yeah but now all the self-report youtube also like netflix has partnered with nielsen so i don't know what kind of racket nielsen is, but they seem to have a monopoly on this thing. Because Prime, right, did self-reporting whenever they were doing Thursday Night Football there for a while.
Yeah. And I don't know if Nielsen's teamed up with Prime as well, but, like, they could have technically said whatever they want.
Bingo. Because people could have been on Prime shopping.
That was like whenever we did the NFL over in London, I went and spoke at the kickoff thing. Cool to be asked to do it.
Downtown London. They shut down a very important road.
Beale Street? Peccadilly? That's in Memphis. Walking in Memphis.
That's what they're doing. That's Beale Street.
I don't think it was Beale Street in London. But an important street.
I don't know what it was. Cool to be asked to be a part of, especially as a punter.
Felt it was honored. I go out there and speak.
I got the microphone. So I'm literally looking out at the crowd.
I'm like, oh, it's a pretty good crowd. Pretty good crowd.
Pretty good crowd. It was a pretty good crowd for Saturday.
You know? Yeah. That's how I took it.
Then I was told like two days later 750 000 people were at that thing i'm like that was not what i was looking at was not 750 000 or whatever i think they just counted every human that was walking in london at the time in which the celebration was i legitimately so many people that is many people that's why like i forget the number they said some ridiculous number and i was actually standing on the stage looking at the crowd had been in front of crowds before pretty good size crowds you know thousands of people i've been in front of so i was like ah this is pretty this is a good crowd like good for the nfl getting i was actually excited to hear what the number was which is why i like looked into it and then the number they said i was like okay is the wwe announcing who's doing them who's doing the the numbers in this entire thing so i like prime could have done that you know because like anybody that's on there i think they said 11 million at one point and it was like 13 million yeah and i forget how the number went steady like 2 million yeah but that's them saying it it's like how long did the person watch what did they watch what matters what doesn't matter i'm intrigued on how you figure out what has interest and what doesn't have interest going forward because on the internet usually there's a scoreboard like in youtube yes on x there's a scoreboard instagram even though you can take off the scoreboard there's a scoreboard all these things have score, but these platforms and streaming services, just like TV, it's all kind of like what we say it is. Pat, you're not going to believe this, but Amazon also has a partnership with Nielsen.
Not for everything, though. Select programming, and one of those things is Thursday Night Football on Prime Video.
Does Nielsen get paid to report numbers? Who is Nielsen? They've had so much power They've had so much power. Liam is his first name.
Oh yeah, he died. That's nice to think.
Liam Neeson died? No, he's alive. I'm thinking the guy from Naked Gun.
Leslie Nielsen. Rest in peace to Leslie Nielsen.
Is there any tie to Siskel and Eber for Nielsen? Siskel and Eber? Probably. They're dead.
Evert? Right? E-V-E-R? Siskel and Bevert? Yeah, they're reincarnated in country music with our own D-Bone. Siskel, Evert, and D-Bone? Yeah.
Bone's got his own ranking system. Bone deserves to be a voter for some country music.
CMAs. How many How many bones? He's just diehard country guy?

Diehard. You have no idea.

Neither do we. He takes a stance too.
He's not happy about it.

He's not happy about it.

He's not happy about it.

He just likes

people paying their respects to country music.

Authenticity. He's an asshole.

Whoa.

That's not a bad song actually.

He's an asshole.

Asshole. Tundex, you want to do a giveaway? Yeah, absolutely, brother.
AP Tone, obviously. Big time.
It's kind of his Super Bowl. Valuable.
How would we have ever known if Acho didn't do that video? He was trying to inform sports people. I didn't know.
I told you guys. Bruce Brown said something earlier today.
He said, some people make a video you watch 10 seconds, you say, okay, I'm out of here. Probably me.
People watch my videos. They give me 100.
Acho starts talking. It's hard to exit.
It's hard to exit. Good or a tour.
Especially when it's like a happy birthday to himself and he shows like a house. There's Gump taking a shot.
Gump seems to be taking a few shots. Yeah, that's Gumpy football.
I mean, that is Gumpy football out there. Tone, what will you attempt to do, you think, at this point? Anything but shoot a basketball.
Okay, so he won't be dunking. All right, AJ was hoping for a holiday dunk.
He said anything with a basketball. Maybe drop stuff from the block and dunk.
He said anything with a basketball, I do believe. I did.
Do you want to throw a football? I will throw a football. You've got to throw it into the hoop, though.
I think the Jasmine square is too big. It is.
Too easy. You guys have been playing every day, right? Yeah, in peewee football, Ted Diggs was quarterback.

He was also a catcher.

Yeah.

He was a catcher for a number one team in a state.

Country, I thought.

Where were you guys in the country?

Do you remember when you were ranked in the country?

A lot of microphones.

24.

24th in the country.

Holy shit. Is that what the Mustangs were?

The Mustangs, yeah.

It was a big deal.

Big talking point.

Nice.

I think you guys ran Neil Walker in the playoffs.

Was that that year?

We played Neil Walker.

Well, he didn't play in the game right before the playoffs.

He was raising some hell the night before.

Classic.

We ran into Central, I believe, or Mount Lebo, one of those.

They went big. Mount Lebo.
They were seeing the baseball. Yeah, they go.
That team was seeing the baseball. That was bullshit.
You guys had a great year. That was a fun year to follow along with.
I want to let you know that. That was the most I enjoyed baseball my entire life was that year with them.
Yeah. Mike funds off.
Nick doesn't want you to talk about it. Nothing like it.
I go to the games. When your hometown teams, like your hometown high school, has a great team and you're not on it, you just get to go and cheer, it is so much fun.
I almost got beat up at a couple of those games. We did that for volleyball for past years.
Bingo, yeah. We had a good time.
We had a good team. Basketball, too.
Same exact thing. We would go.
So fun. The ending of that baseball season was not supposed to happen the way it ended, though.
Just like the volleyball season, I guess. I almost got my ass beat at one of those games.
I happened upon the wrong guy from the other school. And he did not like me going into that game, I guess.
I don't know how he knew I was going to be there. Jeez, Luis.
He had friends. That was some of my best talking I've ever done in my life.
Wait, you're a fight right here? Is that what we're going to do? Let's do it. This is not just me.
And then he had two friends pop up and I was like, oh, fuck. Where'd they come from? All my friends are playing in this game.
Let's, all right, I guess we're going to do this. I had to really do some song a day.
I'll see you after the game, obviously. Dance away.
That would have been a bad day for old Pat McAfee. Those guys were mad.
I've never seen them that mad. That baseball game.
I think we've made up since then, though. I want to let you boys know you had me there for a little bit.
You had me on my heels. You knew it.
You saw it. You had me on my heels there.
You caught me in a moment. Hockey game.
I mean, that was deck hockey. Those were just brawls in the park.
You were signing up for them. Well, you got Joe Hadley trying to kill guys out there.
It stands in. It was crazy.
Supporting your friends was really dangerous back in the day in western Pennsylvania, the East Hills of Pittsburgh. Well, we supported aggressively.
Yeah. We were very supportive.
We were very supportive. That was deck hockey.
Do you guys have ball hockey in Ohio? No, I played a little roller hockey with my blades on, but we never had the official deck hockey thing like you guys had. That would have been awesome.
I think there's different. Roller hockey is one, ball hockey is another, and then obviously ice hockey is the one that those of us who can't skate are a force.
Yeah, the real hotbeds were Boston, Jersey, Pittsburgh, and Philly. So a lot of scumbag cities would get together and just brawl on the weekends.

You would go to one of those games and be like, all right, not playing today,

but going to leave here with at least a couple.

Where would you play, though?

Where would they play?

Literally, the Penn Hills deck was you would drive up a hill,

and then you would go down into a valley, back into a corner,

and it was like literally just trapped.

You're just trapped in this area.

And the only way out was one walkway into a parking lot. Kind of like the Rose Bowl.
Yeah, it was exactly like the Rose Bowl setup. Just kind of white trashy.
Because it's deck hockey. So you go down in there, and it's like, who knows how you're getting out of here.
It was outdoor, too. Yeah, and Joey Hundo, had a bag, was always doing something that would at least give a ooh from you, but it's somebody else's friend that just got hit on the other side.
And then there's the, and it's like, all right, here we go. Phil's ice hockey team? Jeez, the Plum Mustangs? Phil was a goon out there.
I mean, Phil's just laying people out. So obviously, I'm punching the boards.
People are pissed off about that. I'll see you outside.
Oh, great. Everybody wants to see you outside.
Never ends.

It was hard to support your friends back then.

I wonder if it's like that now.

No.

I mean, that's back when you used to meet, hey, like, what's going on?

Oh, well, you know, Timmy's meeting Jimmy.

They're fighting at the woods at 5 p.m.

That was legit happening on a consistent basis.

Everybody stands around.

Everyone comes around and watches.

Yeah.

Those are good old days.

Did you hear they were shooting them in Rover Mall?

Allegedly.

Just kidding. Tall.
Everybody stands around. Everyone comes around and watches.
Yeah. Those were good old days.

Did you hear they were shooting at Monroeville Mall?

Allegedly.

Shooting at Monroeville Mall.

Shut it down.

That was our mall.

We hung out at.

Another Tuesday.

Big brawls at the Monroeville Mall.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, it was every time you left the house, there was a chance you were going to get into it.

Boy, what a different time.

What a different time.

Bus stop brawls in grade school.

Yeah. That was just nonstop.
Working the jab young is a good move. Working the jab.
Because inevitably, you're going to get held apart. So getting a couple good shots in so you don't leave empty-handed, if you will, is a good play.
But if you run into a big fight. Like the older dudes used to get it.
Deck hockey was big with the older guys being there, and that was like last generation was still there waiting on us to kind of get through. That was when you would have a potential problem.
That was when it's like these guys got reach, experience, and a grizzled veteran jaw. Yeah.
Yeah, that's how you got back. When you were like 14, 15, you start playing in the upper leagues against like the over 30 and like 25-year-olds and 30-year-old dudes.
These guys are roofers during the day. Jobs and families and taking their aggression out on you when you run by them.
They didn't like it. They'll hack you.
Oh, look at the little bitch. All right.
Can you tell me when we're playing this team again? I'm not going to come. Good luck.
I'm not going to come support this. Anyways, on that note, it's nice to be able to support Tone right now.
It is. Isn't it? Let's go, Tone.
Tone, all I want you to do is put that football into this hoop. Now, it is a digs Christmas today.
It is. It is a very paisan Christmas here in Indianapolis, Indiana.
And I'm sure the people that live here could notice there's a couple more Italians in town. The DiGiulios have made their way to Indianapolis to celebrate Christmas, and Coach is here, and I know Coach would say, hey, Tone, you spin that pigskin, put it in that basketball hoop right over there? Bison, grazie, 50 people, $500.
Wow. On this feel-good Friday.
Tone, don't only do it for yourself. Do it for Christmas.
Do it for Jesus Christ. Do it for the Italian! Oh, shit.
A little ugly. I love the aggressive line.
And the touch seemed to be real. He's not wearing any shoes.
He's got the no-show socks on. Looks cool.
We can see them right now. They are showing off.
Merry Christmas to the DiGiolios. Merry Christmas to the Italians.
And Merry Christmas to the 35 people that win $500 when Tone Diggs puts this ball. Oh! You're seeing it.
What a weird release, though. What an awkward release.
What are you talking about? Very nonchalant with it. Very casual release.
He's throwing it like a loaf of bread is what he's saying. Casual.
A lot of people say it's an after list thrower, AJ. Yeah, that's what I – hey, I'm seeing it firsthand.
You got to remember this guy's pop time. Yeah, best in the state.
Led the 24th team in the country at one point in baseball. Tone also a fantastic quarterback back in the day.
When I played for the Plum Young football team, Tone Diggs was spinning it all over the yard. Caught an out pass from Tone.
Took that thing to the thing to the crib see you only played like four weeks some of the best times i've ever had and tone led the team tone led the team i played safety back there tone was linebacker doing his thing he was quarterback i played a little running back had me an offensive line first week because i was a big guy that could move didn't love that move sure sure didn. Sure.
Didn't love that move. That's classic.
But I moved some bodies.

I think I got there on like a Friday.

First game was Saturday because of my size.

He put pads on me. He put me on the offensive line.

You're going to play tackle, son. It's the middle of soccer season

obviously. Doing pretty good at soccer at this time.

Pretty good. Pretty good soccer.

So we had plum

young football practice.

It was not what it was called.

Plum football practice.

I think that was like, I don't know if it was Tuesdays or Thursdays

or Mondays or Wednesdays. Whatever it was.

I think... young football practice was not what it was called sure plum football practice i think that was like i don't know if it was tuesdays or thursdays or mondays and wednesdays whatever it was i thought we were every day yeah well mondays wednesdays i was able to make because i had tuesday thursday soccer so it was monday wednesday and then friday was like a practice weigh-in type thing and i get there on friday because i was at a baseball field i think and the football field was on the other side walk over there they go hey you want to play football my friends are playing on to but sure they put pads on me I'm the biggest guy I'm just blocking people you know pass set you don't really have to be that good at that age put me in a game next day then on Monday we start running sprints and I'm fucking you know move your sock you're in soccer shape you're good I'm moving and coach Napolitano I believe alongside correct the Gillio super super Italian operation obviously he goes we get this guy a ball I play running back wide receiver I was safety punt returner kick returner for like three four weeks then I took a shot hit some concrete skinned up my entire leg and the soccer team was like what are we doing no more of this how we should have played think.
No, soccer ended up working out very well for me long term.

But that team had hope.

We're a good team.

Great team.

That was where I met Daquay.

Daquay was a dog.

Still is. Daquay was a dog.

Daquay's in jail right now.

I found that out because I was the mentalist.

Told me to think of a teammate's name from way back in the day, any sport.

And I thought Daquay.

Because Daquay used to drive me to a lot of these practices with his brother the rob and his whole family and i just immediately thought i was ain't gonna guess this one buddy good luck and he goes oh interesting name that's what i said i was like yes he goes is there a q in this name and i'm'm like, this motherfucker. He's like, Da Quay.

Yep, it was Da Quay, wasn't it?

I'm like, how the fuck do you know?

So then I looked up Da Quay.

He was in jail.

I don't know if he did what they're saying he did,

but he certainly said he did some serious stuff.

Da Quay, if you're watching,

I don't know if you can be,

but had some nice fond memories

of what it was like way back in the day.

He was a dog, Da Quay.

Da Rob was a beast, too. You remember DeRob? Great football player.
You used to hear him, DeRob over the Plum Mustangs. Great name.
Great names. DeRob and DeQuay.
Yeah. And the dad was Da Man.
That's not his name. That was not his name.
The guy? No, he was. He was the guy.
He was a good guy. Now, ladies and gentlemen, former two-sport athlete for the Plum Mustangs.
D1 athlete for the Duquesne Dukes. A man who was pop-time rival Jason Kendall's in the city of Pittsburgh.
Can he become a guy that can win 30 people, $500? All he's got to do, Connor, is what? Put that football on that hoop right over there. Right over there? Uh-huh.
How are you doing right now? I got a shit so bad. I'm doing good.
If you make this shot, show ends. 30 people win $500.
Connor's pants stay clean. All you got to do is put that ball into that hoop right over there, Tone.
Do it for the people. Do it for Connor.
Do it for his pants. Show goes on.
And we take the tractor. Another round.
Another round. Another round.
Last ball here, Tone. I mean, AP voter.
Throw the Duke. Now, people are talking about Ruben throwing that fastball.
Who's people? Who's doing that? Ty. Ty, mostly.
I don't know if you heard the first hour. Ty had a little bit of a festivus for Fanatics, a little bit of an airing of grievances for everything he's seen and been a part of.
But he said that this was the moment that he knew. Oh, the next one's worse.
I mean, he's throwing gas a little bit. It looks pretty fast.
Yeah, he's eight feet away. He don't have time to work on his throw, obviously.
He's got businesses to maintain. I don't know how you do that.
Don't run a billion dollar sports company then if you fucking throw a baseball like that. Okay, well, he'll get better at throwing the baseball,

and Fanatics understands that.

No, they won't.

I think that is a tough thing to get better at.

You're kind of born with that, you know, I think a little bit.

His work ethic, obviously.

Fanatics is going to get better, we assume.

Wasn't he all-time quarterback on the beach at the white party

with Tommy's team and the other guys, too?

Who were the other guys?

I don't remember.

ASAP. Remember, they had a funny shirt? One guy had a cool shirt, too.
Drewski can't go deep. You ever seen him run in those? He always wears those Jesus sandals.
He can move. He can move.
He's much more athletic than I think anybody gives him credit for. He's a big dude.
He was running around with Ruben. Full pads.
In full Patriots pads, yeah. With the Jesus sand Jesus sandals.
Drewski was wide open. He looked good.
He did look good. Tom, why don't you look good for the program? There's Drewski.
Look at him moving. Wait a lot, Reuben.
Reuben got the angle on him. He's in cleats, full cleats.
I don't know. To be clear, very odd.
Wait, that's Reuben? That's not Edelman? Are you sure that's not Jules?

I don't think Jules.

Are we sure?

You're right.

I just assumed. That is Jules.

Okay.

That's a thought.

I just assumed it was Ruben.

Run that one more time.

I mean, Drisky's keeping up with Julian Edelman there.

Yeah, that's crazy.

Look at that gate on Jules.

Arm pump, knee drive.

Fanatics is going to get better is what we're saying. Fanatics is going to get better.
We don't know about the throw. Could potentially, but Fanatics will get better because they understand that sports fans are very passionate.
Sports fans invest everything they have into some of these things. And a jersey can change a life.
Yeah. Literally.
It can change the future. But when it shows up with the wrong city, wrong name, hole in it.
Yeah, exactly. Numbers peeling off.
Numbers switch. People are going to complain.
Yeah. That's just how it goes whenever you're dealing with people's money.
Speaking of people's money, why don't you make 25 people $500 richer return? All you got to do is put that football into that hoop right over there. Oh, that was the one.
Had a lot of good throws. He's all the good.
Throw the Duke.ke i remember telling running through that he kind of can't hear but you remember when he ran through the blaster when you guys went to the colts training camp but he looked legit he looked explosive uh aj brought up the great time when you ran through the blaster at the colts training camp you remember that he dropped shorter yeah brought brought the i'm serious though i'm not messing around yeah you could tell the guy played football before. He had met that device before.
There's some people that show up at a football practice and they go, this will be fun and they have no idea what's coming. Yeah, they don't know.
You need to gain some speed before you get into that thing. Yeah, people that try to push the sled too, they're like, oh, I'll push the sled here and that thing turn up and sideways.
It's like, nope, you are not going to be pushing that and And you need a little bit more leverage on that. Same with the blaster.
And he was nothing short of impressed. He said, think about how athletic you are.
Think about how tough you are. Think about how cool you are.
Think about how great the Julia Christmas is going to be with Coach. The pepperon.
Is Mikey? Mikey Dawes. The rolls.
Oh, my God. So much paisan.
How about the pastries? Yeah, pumpkin rolls. Oh, my.
No pepper rolls. I remember when we used to get those at the office.
We used to. Coach, we don't know where they've been.
That's way off. All right.
Nobody wins. One more.
Tone Diggs, 30 people. Game is.
Game is. Holy shit.
Best attempt with the Russell Wilson. That's because Russell Wilson is his quarterback.
That's right. Speaking of quarterbacks, you can talk about that fadeaway there.
Anthony Richardson has missed practice for a second straight day with a back foot injury. Sorry, boys.
That we don't know was. Don't worry about it, Tony.
You did great. Hey, baby, Tom.
Anthony Richardson was seen in practice today standing, watching the quarterbacks throw pat and go during the open media portion. He's potentially at for his third game missing this year of an injury.
But with what I saw at practice, the video that I saw from James Boyd, I believe, of The Athletic, he's great. He's very good.
Romeoville kid? Yeah, him. He's very good.
He gets all the shit. He asks all the questions that everybody has.
So I'm very appreciative of the work that he has done. He had a video of practice.
Anthony Richardson wearing his five red jersey, standing in the middle of the field while Pat and Go is happening with Sam and Flacco. He's standing out there in the middle of the field.
If it's a back injury, they wouldn't have him standing in the cold in the middle, right? Because the back can flare up at any time. And the fact that he's standing foot, you think would be okay.
There's something else he could be doing. So maybe they're just resting him going in, but missing a fast Friday is certainly a decision.
And we might be seeing Colts without Anthony Richardson this weekend. And the Colts are very much still very much still lurking in this entire playoff picture.

I'll be kind of optimistic about it because of what he's doing there in practice,

but certainly something to keep an eye on.

Also, Jalen Hurts misses another practice,

and basically everybody is reporting it seems like a long shot that Jalen Hurts is going to be back for the Philadelphia Eagles.

Obviously, they are still in a conversation of their one overall seed.

The Philadelphia Eagles are on this historic record-breaking type season. There's been a lot of drama, but that's Philadelphia Eagle football.
He gets a concussion last week. Kenny Pickett comes in.
He also gets hurt. So, Jalen Hurts still missing practice, still in the protocol.
Certainly alarming. Age, certainly alarming.
Yeah, certainly alarming. But, I mean, just figure out the regular the regular rest like the rest of the season the regular season get your head feeling right heading into the playoffs obviously we know it's pivotal but yeah you would hope he would get back in the lineup now but i'm sure they'd be very very uh cautious with this return yeah i um yeah and then you think about like the kent city chiefs we talked about this before we went live.
They've already locked down number one overall seed, home field advantage. I assume there's some escalators in contracts and streaks that can continue, especially in the middle of what they're in the middle of.
But these last two weeks, how do they treat it? And the boys brought up preseason. Yeah, exactly.
The Chiefs play their guys in preseason every single game. Who knows if they're going to play the entire game against the Broncos, and I'm not sure if it's on the road or at home.
But either way, you would assume most of the starters, the ones who aren't banged up, like Schefter mentioned Chris Jones. He is a little banged up, didn't play on Christmas.
He's probably not going to push it to go. But the guys that aren't banged up, like the normal dudes, they're probably going to play the first half, I i would assume maybe a quarter like i would guess more so that they would want to play especially if there are escalators for some guys like that need to get 90 catches or 100 like whatever the hell it's supposed to be i watched an awesome couple plays get drawn up for dallas clark to get some catches because he needed like two and then i think reggie needed one they're playing a little wheel here.
Don't you worry about it. Bang, pow, boom.
And then we're getting out of here. Those are the things that you earn, by the way, if you earn the number one overall seed and earn the opportunity to make those decisions.
They're not easy ones, though, because everything we've been talking about with this college football. Like if you rest guys and then they come back in their crop, well, that's poor.
Why would you ever do that? And then if you play guys and they get hurt, well, why would you ever do that and then if you play guys and they get hurt well why would you ever do that it's like uh you know never never a definitive answer on how this works out yeah it's a good problem to have i guess but it is it is something you have to address i've done it both when i was in green bay obviously aaron rogers the quarterback we won a lot of games so we had times where the last game or so i know there's times when aaron didn't really play the last game in the regular season we We go in with a bye, and then all of a sudden, boom, we get beaten the first round of the playoffs. The year we won the Super Bowl, we squeaked our way into the playoffs by winning our last two regular season games and then won three games on the road to get to the Super Bowl.
So, yeah, it doesn't – there's no, like, exact way to do it. There's many different ways.
And you think about that, like that Baltimore Ravens team, the way they're talking, they have to win because they had so many losses early. They're playing for their seeding, for their road, for everything and it's like, I think they like it that they have no other option.
You know, because there's not even a conversation of whether or not they should wrestle more. It's like, nah, we're trying to get a hat this Sunday.
Let's keep it rolling and play the games in front of us. It's an added distraction.
Whether it's a good one or not is certainly a conversation, but it's certainly an added

decision that has to be made. It was a couple years ago

when the Packers, it was the year Bakhtiari

was kind of like willy-wony all

year with his knee. He played the last week of the season

against the Lions and then wasn't

available first weekend of the playoffs

against the Niners and

it killed him. It was the reason they lost

the game pretty much. It's crazy.

Because if you do, you're bad.

If you don't, you're bad.

If you end up winning, nobody remembers any of it.

Exactly.

Like, we rested starters last two weeks because we had number one seed locked up in my rookie season.

I say we because I just so happened to wear a uniform on that team.

I didn't make any decision or was the reason why we won or lost any games or Super Bowl, which is cool with me.

A lot of people get blamed for us losing that Super Bowl. I'm not one of them.
So it's a lot better than that. Wish we would have won it.
That would have been great. But my name's kept out of the conversation, and that's how it should be as a punter.
But I remember if we would have lost that first game, everybody would have just killed Bill Pullian for resting. Why would you slow down this team? But instead we win, we win, we go all the way to the Super Bowl.

Then we lose to Drew Brees after having

a lead at halftime in the Saints.

I don't think anybody looked back

on the last two games of the season as a reason

for why we lost the Super Bowl.

As long as you make it, nobody will care what you do.

But if you lose before you get there,

everybody's judging you.

Even though you're the number one overall seed or could have been the number one overall

seed, let's get this guy

the fuck out of here. Maybe not Andy Reid

though. Andy Reid might have earned up the love

for Kansas City. Yeah.

Plus, you're just looking for a reason at that point.

Like, it's not, there's no

usually it's just because the other team fucking

won the game. I hope these games get

better though. They will.
Playoffs are going to be awesome

I think. Yeah, they will.
I mean, Bengals

Broncos is going to be a great game. Good on good.
We'll be fine. Alright, let's get the hell out of here.
Let's have a great weekend, boys. Everybody stay healthy.
It's Friday. What a weird Friday.
So weird. Yeah, we had a weekend already in the middle of the week because we're lazy.
It's weird. No, it's because it's old JC.
We're celebrating. Great haircut on Monday.
Jesus Christ. Yeah, that's what I meant.
Big pop out of it. Yeah.
I love that one. Big pop out of it.
All right. It has been a lot of fun.
Yeah, it is weird. Yesterday, I was going to bed, and it felt like it was going to be a two- Monday night football.
Yeah, exactly. And we had a primetime football game.
So it was hard not to do that. We want to let everybody know we'll miss you too.
We'll miss you too. That's right.
I feel like PSA, maybe for those at home, let's be loading up on the vitamins this weekend. Okay.
Okay, let's start combating whatever is certainly coming for our office. Was D-Bone the first one to bring it in here? Potentially.
And I've been saying it's definitely his fault we're all going to get it,

but the world, I think,

is potentially getting it right now.

That season.

Whatever it is.

So let's make sure we're vitamin-ed up.

Let's make sure we're taking care of ourselves.

Let's make sure we're washing our hands.

Let's make sure we're not making eye contact with people.

Yeah.

Let's go back and do it all.

It's not handshake.

Let's do six.

No, I'm joking.

I think you're going to get it

whether you like it or not.

Yeah.

That's the time of year we're in.

Let's hope that we don't get the bad version of it.

And to our friends that are

currently going through any type of sickness,

Obviously, we're going to get it whether you like it or not. Yeah.
That's the time of year we're in. Let's hope that we don't get the bad version of it.

And to our friends that are currently going through any type of sickness,

obviously we're not talking about real ones.

We're talking about like the seasonal shit that comes and goes.

We apologize that your 24, 48 hours are going to suck.

Yeah.

And they are going to suck.

Yep.

You're just kind of punting on a day and a half.

Mm-hmm.

Fluids.

A lot of fluids.

Mm-hmm.

Water.

Hydrate.

Yeah. And wash your hands.
Yes. Yes hands yes yes sanitize let's wash our hands emergency let's wash our hands where is he's good but then there's people that'll come out and say it's actually terrible for you yeah i'm not even you're right no matter what you do we know too much that's stupid we know too much this person very qualified on subject at hand saying this This person, very qualified on subject at hand saying this.

This person, very qualified on subject at hand, saying the direct opposite.

And all it is is the difference of one scroll or two scrolls.

So what do I know?

What are you going to do?

That's life.

That's life.

It is, isn't it? It is.

We're lucky to have this life, aren't we?

Hell yeah. Because it could be different.
You know where we could be? Where? Fucking dead. Yeah.
In the ground. It's life.
It is, isn't it? It is. We're lucky to have this life, aren't we? Hell yeah.

Because it could be different.

You know where we could be?

Where?

Fucking dead.

Yeah.

In the ground.

It's true.

Or in a raised one.

Or in an urn.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know?

Or unfound.

Mars people are dead out there.

They're unfound.

Or marked.

Mausoleum would be the choice.

That's what you want to do?

You want to be the one that's in the big thing?

Look at me?

Yeah.

Yep. Down there in New Orleans,? Look at me? Yeah.
Yep.

Down there in New Orleans,

all that.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Because flood.

Flooding sea level, yeah.

Your honor shows that.

And it's just up.

What's that?

That's a cemetery.

We're all above ground.

That's wild to think about.

It's just the way it is.

Just dust and bones.

We're not in there.

We're not on the ground.

We're still here.

We have life.

Let's never forget it.

Let's enjoy it.

Let's enjoy it.

Let's remember how lucky we are to have it. And let's have a great weekend.
We got football tomorrow all day. What? We got football Sunday all day.
What? Then we're back for an overreaction Monday. It's going to be epic.
Next week is going to be awesome. Rose Bowl.
Boom. Wednesday.

Boom.

January 1, 2025.

Court files.

Oregon, Ohio State,

live in Pasadena, California,

5 p.m. Eastern.

We're going to be on the sideline for it.

Yep.

Next week's going to be awesome.

Yes.

New Year's Eve,

Boise State, Penn State.

Next week's going to be awesome. Football is awesome.
Let's go, boys. Let's have a weekend.
Hot damn. All right, be a friend, tell a friend something nice that might change your life.
We're in this thing together. Shout out to DoorDash.
We saw them pop up a couple times. Obviously, the time is right to DoorDash anything that you need, anytime.
Okay? Whatever you need, however you need it, DoorDash can get it to you. It says get all your game day faves delivered every single day.

It's not just game day faves.

You can obviously get pizza.

You can order pizza.

Yeah, exactly.

On DoorDash, which is phenomenal.

Any day.

You can order any food, any restaurant on DoorDash. But also, you can get anything that you need.

You know, you need like a heating pad.

Yep.

That could show up.

Yeah.

Toothbrush.

Cold medicine. Yep.
Anything. DoorDash.
Pepto-bismol? Pepto. Which everybody knows what it does? Of course.
Guy experienced Pepto-bismol for the first time this morning. Connor.
What did you do, Stu? I wasn't sure if it was a hold or... I forget the other word I'm looking for.
Not a laxative. There you go.
Yeah, he said a cover-up. Or am I getting rid of this? Hold it in or get it out? Less shite, not more shite.
You don't want the more shite. It passed, so I feel okay right now.
Good for you. Yeah, I was very pumped about it, actually.
Congratulations on what you've done today. Hey, we got it done.
You did. We did.
Hell yeah. Still bringing it.
Still bringing it. About to bring it again.
Don't dump in your car on the way home. That's always a concern.
Boom. Boom.
Boom. That's five of them.
We had somebody that we knew puke all over an airplane bathroom recently. And a terminal.
And leave and say, who the fuck did that? That's disgusting. Jeez.
Even following up with an, ew. Ew.
Yeah. Who was this? We'll tell you about it.
Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice.
It might change your life. We're in this thing together.
Even that person that puked all over an airplane bathroom. And all over an airport's terminal.
Middle of it. Could have been a dump, I guess.
Merry Christmas. Yeah, Merry Christmas, motherfucker.
I don't know what I'd rather have. That was Bruce Brown.
He cleaned up the wall, he said. He did.
Let the flight attendants handle the rest. Yeah, crevices couldn't do.
Crevices on the floor. It's going to be tough with the toilet paper that they have.
Didn't have his toothbrush. I'll try to clean up.
Exactly. Try to clean up this wall for you.
And he came out. Who did that? Oh my God.
Puked in there. That's so bad.
Ew. Did he try to puke into the toilet? Well, he's dumping, you see.
Oh, he was taking a dump and then he just puked all over the wall? Yeah, I think he was trying to get it into the sink maybe, but instead you've got to do a little free throw there. Two-floor flood.
I was doing the old puke in the mouth on the way too, so it could have been way worse, to be fair. It caught the worst of it early.
So you spit it out? It could have been all over the last row. Yeah, you know, baby birded somebody.
Yeah, you just kind of catch it and then kind of hold your hand there. Oh, fuck.
Oh, no. What if somebody would have been there? What if that red lights lit up there for the bathroom? Oh, it would have been game over.
Open up the hatch. Did you spit it into the toilet? No, I literally painted the entire wall.
I think the toilet seat was down. So it was just everywhere but the toilet.
That is a nightmare. Yes, an open.
Public space, commercial plane bathroom. Worst one.
You're on a stage when you walk in. You actually put a light on.
Coming to the stage now, person that's peeing or dumping. We shall see.
Count the... Exactly.

I didn't even get the door locked behind me at first,

so it was just wide open.

Oh, full chaos happening in there.

Still green.

Still green, but we all saw him walk in there.

Got to go right to sleep after that,

because three minutes later,

someone's walking in there and going,

what the fuck?

And then everyone knows.

Yeah.

Everyone knows it's you.

Not only there, though,

he was able to get off the plane without doing any further damage, And immediately upon exiting the plane, getting into the airport's terminal. Also, one more time, let's take the tractor another round.
All over the ground. Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas. Happy holidays.
Did you try to find like a trash can or a toilet? I was walking to the terminal bathroom and there was actually a nice looking dad with two daughters taking his daughters to the men's room as I guess you do. Don't go in there! Don't go in there! It was like dodging a couple landmines on the way.
Last thing you obviously want to do puke on a little girl. We're happy you got through it.
Good job, Bruce. Your antibodies are about to kick in now.

You earned them. You earned your stripes this year.

It's like an airplane bathroom.

Nightmare.

Everybody's...

Is that guy okay?

Comes out. No.

That guy's not okay.

He's sweating profusely.

That probably smells so bad.

Puke smells horrible.

Him going to the bathroom, everybody noticing a little... Is that good? All right.
Oh, my God. Did you think about grabbing the barf bag? I guess I've never used that.
Oh, yeah, in your seat. First thing I checked when I sat down, no barf bags.
That's the problem. That's the problem.
I thought about asking for one, but trying to draw no attention. Just real quick.

If you're puking into that, your stomach is tightening up.

I don't know if they got a barf bag for what was happening on the other end either, right?

Bub?

I mean, yeah, that is a concern.

Yeah.

That's what happens.

Because when you puke, you're getting like an ab work.

Oh, yeah.

Things are also like incredibly small.

Like if you actually don't feel good and you're puking, you are filling that fucker up. Well, you can't grab the neighbors then.
You just got two bags. You can get one here.
I have seen somebody take neighbors, same row I was in, guy puking into his shit, reaches across the aisle to the other person. Grab me that, grab me that.
I was in for a number two. That was pretty impressive.
I felt so bad for that that guy you never know if it's a hangover or motion yeah the plane or if they just want to spread their love to society like bruce did yeah way to go bruce embarrassed at all no you couldn't feel embarrassed because you felt so terrible i honestly kind of felt like a like a beast just getting through it all and getting getting home perspective the whole time i was like damn i'm a tank right now but that obviously didn't really work out i'm a fucking dog a beast dog people would be embarrassed by that hell no i fucking filled it up you do that bitch you try that shit i'm a dog that's awesome spraying the bathroom wall all right let's get out of here be a friend tell a friend something nice it might change your life we're in this thing together including people that are spraying bathrooms with puke especially those people think about those people he's a little bit of an arrogant one of those guys not a lot of people feel that way a lot of people are a little embarrassed for the little thing not their fault it's the time of year we'll see you on Monday we're in're in this thing together. Team on me.
Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas.
Happy Holidays. Happy Hanukkah.
Happy Hanukkah. Yes.
Right to left. Like you read the Torah every night.
I did get a video from Shefty last night lighting the Hanukkah with his family and saying the blessings while doing the lighting. I needed the captions.
I didn't know what all he was saying. But it sounded like he was saying it.
He was. He was saying it.
He was saying it. No doubt.
He was saying it, Edge. Still saying it.
I believe it. Still saying it.
Did he drop the... Maybe.
Maybe. A little chaotic at Christmas time.
Shepty's got a lot going on. It's not until Christmas, holidays, you know, holiday season.

He was a big part of it, though.

They were celebrating him in the video that I saw.

They were.

Because he was kind of upselling it, saying they don't like me.

Poo-pooing a bit.

He was.

That wasn't the case at all.

They were celebrating him.

That's all I hope you all feel this weekend.

Team on me, team on three.

One, two, three, team.

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