452 - Wet Hot American Epstein

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Tim discusses the insanity of all the different takes that the media, politicians, & average people have on the Jeffrey Epstein story and explains why his is the most sound. He also theorizes on why Trump has not released the client list. 



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Speaker 2 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Tim Dylan Show.

Speaker 6 How are we doing out there?

Speaker 10 Summer is in full

Speaker 6 swing.

Speaker 12 Summer, this is it.

Speaker 2 It's gonna be quick and then it's over.

Speaker 14 So enjoy it.

Speaker 15 Take some time.

Speaker 16 Take some time.

Speaker 17 Bring the family to the lake.

Speaker 19 Bring them to the beach.

Speaker 20 You know, no one goes anywhere anymore.

Speaker 23 It's a country of very creepy weirdos.

Speaker 24 Have you noticed that?

Speaker 26 That the country is just filled with anti-social freaks.

Speaker 27 who just aren't anywhere anymore.

Speaker 29 Like, you go to these places where like

Speaker 21 it's supposed to be like over, you're supposed to be overwhelmed with crowds and it's like it's just it's not whatever everyone says it everyone's like it's gonna be wall to wall people and you won't be and then you these like i went down to this place on long island long beach

Speaker 24 a few days before the fourth of july me and my buddies we grew up in that area and it wasn't packed the bars had like 20 people in them

Speaker 34 Young people aren't out there at bars like that anymore.

Speaker 21 It used to be like lifeguard night, ladies' night.

Speaker 24 People are having fun and partying, but like

Speaker 32 no one's, where are they? Like what these people aren't there

Speaker 45 anymore,

Speaker 32 and I don't know where they are.

Speaker 25 So if you get a chance to try to foster some type of positive social environment for yourself and your family, I guess do it.

Speaker 6 I mean, I don't, people just,

Speaker 34 people don't do anything

Speaker 45 anymore.

Speaker 34 I don't know what they're doing.

Speaker 54 I don't know what people are doing, but they're not, you know, there was a time when people would be out and social and these people would be sitting outside of their house, eight or 10 of them in folding chairs, drinking and talking and joking around and smoking cigs.

Speaker 59 None of that happens anymore.

Speaker 60 It's an abandoned country.

Speaker 59 It's like a country that's been closed.

Speaker 32 And people say, oh, you're exaggerating.

Speaker 64 Like, there's a few areas that are packed with people, the Jersey Shore, out east on Long Island, whatever.

Speaker 29 But then you go to these places that

Speaker 67 they're supposed to have like a summer culture.

Speaker 68 These little fishing villages and towns and,

Speaker 70 you know,

Speaker 68 and it's just nothing.

Speaker 71 There's nobody out boozing it,

Speaker 71 smacking someone in the ass,

Speaker 57 smoking a butt.

Speaker 69 What happened to people?

Speaker 35 They're all creepy weirdos.

Speaker 51 Everyone's like a weirdo now, like a person that doesn't know.

Speaker 73 Have you ever tried to invite people to your home?

Speaker 76 They don't even know how to act or what to do if they even come.

Speaker 78 For example, my, I have a, you know, I have a house out east and I'm fortunate and I invite people to it and they don't know, they don't understand anything.

Speaker 62 Like they're asking questions about everything.

Speaker 81 It's like, you know, you're here to have fun.

Speaker 31 We're here to have fun.

Speaker 52 You're not here to like investigate

Speaker 82 like thing.

Speaker 6 Like I have a house slave, a white woman who's my slave, a house slave.

Speaker 83 And they talk to her like she's a person.

Speaker 67 And they ask her about like her hopes and dreams.

Speaker 85 If you're invited to someone's house, don't speak to the help.

Speaker 31 Don't start cleaning.

Speaker 31 The maid wants to clean.

Speaker 57 She's getting paid either way.

Speaker 56 She has a system and she does it.

Speaker 31 And the job of the house slave, white woman, don't come at me.

Speaker 21 The job of the house slave is to deal with the maid.

Speaker 88 And if the maid says she's cleaned something, the house slave makes the maid photo it and send it to the slave.

Speaker 36 The slave,

Speaker 89 but it's true.

Speaker 36 Today,

Speaker 36 the slave was not there.

Speaker 88 And the maid comes and my godson had to his, him and his horrible family

Speaker 11 came and brought slime to my house, which is like this crap.

Speaker 65 And there's like sprinkles that go on it.

Speaker 32 And they just, I don't know what it is.

Speaker 6 Why are kids playing with this?

Speaker 50 We had Gak, Nickelodeon's GAC, remember that? The network that raped everyone?

Speaker 5 Well,

Speaker 94 the slave called me and said, there's sprinkles all over the yard.

Speaker 23 She thought I just, I had like a fat off with people and we just started throwing sprinkles at each other.

Speaker 97 But I said, that's my God.

Speaker 17 It sounded like I was lying. I go, that's my godson.

Speaker 63 He had slime and it has this crap, these sprinkles you smush into it, or whatever.

Speaker 99 And he got it all over the table.

Speaker 88 So the house slave said, I'm going to have the maid clean the table.

Speaker 28 But the house slave knows you can't trust the maids because some are great and some aren't.

Speaker 84 This is the whole thing.

Speaker 103 Some are here for a better life, you know, and some are selling fentanyl and not doing well.

Speaker 104 So the slave,

Speaker 31 the maid runs out and takes a photo of the table that she just scrubbed and sends it to the slave.

Speaker 66 And then the slave will tell me, I have a photo of the clean table.

Speaker 36 That's the system.

Speaker 107 Do you understand?

Speaker 31 That's the summer system.

Speaker 69 When you're a guest in a house, you do not engage the maid or the slave.

Speaker 63 And you don't talk to me.

Speaker 57 About anything going on.

Speaker 58 I don't know when the garbage person comes.

Speaker 37 That's the slave.

Speaker 20 I don't know.

Speaker 56 The maid is handling the dryer.

Speaker 34 The maid reports to the slave who reports to me.

Speaker 39 I pay all of the bills.

Speaker 109 Now, in New Hampshire's where people have much more money than I do, they have multiple slaves and maids and hierarchies and different constellations of power.

Speaker 107 But you don't ask dumb questions.

Speaker 111 You don't go, where are you spending most of your time?

Speaker 40 Poor question. No one knows.

Speaker 3 No one knows where anyone is.

Speaker 42 And then shut up.

Speaker 5 Shut up.

Speaker 68 You think I would ever say that to anyone?

Speaker 85 You don't ask that of someone.

Speaker 16 Where do you spend most of your time?

Speaker 73 I just always say something ridiculous.

Speaker 82 I go, Rome,

Speaker 113 the Vatican, mostly.

Speaker 96 That's where I'm mostly.

Speaker 6 But I'm here.

Speaker 31 Also, you got to understand, this is for the summer.

Speaker 3 These homes are for the summer.

Speaker 96 They're not used any other time in the year.

Speaker 20 So, this is people go, I bet it's beautiful out here, you know, once it gets a little colder.

Speaker 23 I go, yeah, but I don't really come back.

Speaker 6 Really?

Speaker 6 What do you do?

Speaker 91 I work. We're working.
We're working, you slob.

Speaker 84 We're working.

Speaker 100 Don't engage.

Speaker 32 And yes, of course it's beautiful in the fall. And I'll go there when I can, but I'm working.

Speaker 52 Don't ask the house slave her dreams

Speaker 23 and what she wants to do with her life.

Speaker 32 The last thing you want is a house slave with a postmodern self-awareness

Speaker 29 who's depressed in the kitchen.

Speaker 54 This is what you say.

Speaker 32 You go,

Speaker 32 is there water? That's all you ever, that's all I've ever said when I'm at someone's home.

Speaker 5 Hi.

Speaker 37 Is there water?

Speaker 6 Thank you. Not who are you? How are you?

Speaker 63 How did you meet it?

Speaker 95 Stop it. Stop it.

Speaker 60 People don't know how anymore to just be.

Speaker 116 People don't get it.

Speaker 32 Somebody I was with was like, all these people in the Hamptons, they don't even use their houses.

Speaker 6 They're burning money.

Speaker 117 They're fine.

Speaker 118 They're not burning money.

Speaker 119 It's like

Speaker 13 everyone tries to create this world in which they've won.

Speaker 74 When I was a tour guide, people used to get on the tour buses and go, they spend all this money to live in New York City, but they don't even have central air conditioning.

Speaker 102 They have wall unit air conditioners.

Speaker 115 And I go, yeah, but again,

Speaker 10 again,

Speaker 123 this is a historic building.

Speaker 103 They can't alter it.

Speaker 122 So they have wall unit air conditioners.

Speaker 96 But they have a 30,000 square foot home in Palm Beach that's air conditioned.

Speaker 113 They have a chalet in Aspen.

Speaker 127 They have a home in Greenwich, Connecticut.

Speaker 3 And it's like,

Speaker 128 you didn't figure it out.

Speaker 55 You got to understand the way it is.

Speaker 55 It doesn't mean the way it is is right, but the way it is is the way it is.

Speaker 129 You didn't figure something out.

Speaker 8 Like, you're on, like.

Speaker 32 You walk into the royal palace and you're like,

Speaker 121 all these guards, you don't have any privacy.

Speaker 5 What?

Speaker 100 So I'm just saying, like,

Speaker 5 it's strange.

Speaker 61 People have forgotten how to be social.

Speaker 35 And the way to be social is to kind of be reserved and keep some of your thoughts in

Speaker 132 and just not

Speaker 50 try to not try to like

Speaker 6 always push

Speaker 112 and

Speaker 115 try to like make it so like the person who has the...

Speaker 130 I wouldn't even want a house that big.

Speaker 121 There's so many rooms.

Speaker 121 What would you even do with it?

Speaker 86 We'll pass these homes.

Speaker 74 And they are gargantuan and ridiculous.

Speaker 11 But shut up.

Speaker 134 That's like, what is that?

Speaker 23 What is that?

Speaker 121 I wouldn't even want that. So big.

Speaker 89 So stupid.

Speaker 5 They're so stupid.

Speaker 135 I'm so smart.

Speaker 121 I'm so smart in my little house.

Speaker 133 I'm so smart.

Speaker 89 They're so stupid in their house. They're stupid.

Speaker 133 I'm smart.

Speaker 75 No, you're not. No, you're not.

Speaker 124 And by the way, these aren't people that I'm with that are saying, I bet those people are spiritually broken and empty, and yet I'm fulfilled.

Speaker 115 They're not saying that because that's not what they're not.

Speaker 26 There's a ton of critiques you can make towards the excesses of capitalism or abundance.

Speaker 88 tons of them that come from a spiritual place.

Speaker 45 The people I'm talking about or are amoral, okay?

Speaker 55 So they're not looking at it from that perspective. They're trying to figure out some way that they've actually made the right,

Speaker 94 they would do all the thing.

Speaker 37 It is not for lack of morals that they don't have that house.

Speaker 94 There is not anyone that I grew up with that is too, that didn't succeed because they're too good of a person.

Speaker 111 That's not the case.

Speaker 32 There's not one friend I have that would have been knee deep in money, but was just a moral man.

Speaker 102 That's not one person I know.

Speaker 34 Everyone I know is scum, and they couldn't figure more things out because they kept putting powder in their nose

Speaker 6 instead of figuring out anything else except how to take a key and shove it up their nose. And there's nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 35 I'm just saying,

Speaker 20 what's going on with the Epstein and these Jews?

Speaker 142 What is happening here?

Speaker 71 I mean, I don't, everyone's,

Speaker 142 what's going on?

Speaker 97 Everyone keeps saying this is Mossad Op

Speaker 67 and we're covering it up to protect Israel.

Speaker 115 This is what everyone keeps saying.

Speaker 21 Not in the Hamptons.

Speaker 74 No one's saying that in the Hamptons.

Speaker 78 Here's what they're saying in the Hamptons about this whole thing.

Speaker 123 And it's actually very interesting.

Speaker 32 And I want you to listen closely.

Speaker 24 This is exactly what they're saying in the Hamptons about this entire thing.

Speaker 21 So that's the opinion in the Hamptons.

Speaker 115 That's the prevailing opinion out there.

Speaker 93 People are saying it's Mossad and CIA and that

Speaker 88 they're shutting it down or the people in the White House are implicated. I'm taking another path.

Speaker 37 I'm going, whatever.

Speaker 17 It's time to live in the, it's just like the what i just gave the people advice to like the the people it's late at night but the people that i just gave advice to about the house slave and everything in the way that you uh compo you know the composure that you should have in it someone's home um i'm giving advice to people now that live in this country just choose the pedophile you agree with

Speaker 24 choose the pedophile whose values are are yours who is the pedophile who has a pro-business attitude is there a pedophile who cares about the climate is

Speaker 76 Who wants better schools?

Speaker 5 Probably all of them.

Speaker 85 What pedophile has the viewpoint that you align with?

Speaker 66 What pedophile believes in infrastructure?

Speaker 36 Who is the pedophile that's going to keep us out of costly foreign wars?

Speaker 52 Who is the pedophile who's going to make sure your children have a shot at the American dream?

Speaker 32 You cannot ask that they don't fuck heads.

Speaker 21 You cannot ask that.

Speaker 73 It's a bridge too far.

Speaker 31 Stop being greedy.

Speaker 36 Who is the pedophile that when they speak, you go,

Speaker 39 man,

Speaker 77 I relate to that guy, not on everything, not on everything,

Speaker 47 not on everything, not on the having sex with kids, which I'm sure he does because all of them do.

Speaker 78 But God, do I relate to the point he made about tech or whatever?

Speaker 100 I don't know, but that's the thing now.

Speaker 63 You just have to go with the pedophile who makes the most sense to you personally.

Speaker 34 And you're going to argue, you're going to argue with your wife about it.

Speaker 32 It's not going to be easy.

Speaker 127 John, he's a pedophile.

Speaker 146 Honey, listen.

Speaker 147 Our taxes have been going up year after year.

Speaker 44 It's hard to pay the rent.

Speaker 6 Don't you want to own a fucking house?

Speaker 81 Johnny has sex with children.

Speaker 28 Honey, listen to me.

Speaker 32 I don't agree with everything this man does.

Speaker 66 John, this isn't about policy.

Speaker 42 He's a pedophile.

Speaker 148 Honey,

Speaker 93 I understand your concerns, but I work all goddamn week and I can't get ahead.

Speaker 95 And they're all pedophiles.

Speaker 66 I want this pedophile.

Speaker 93 He's going to be good for us, honey.

Speaker 60 He understands that a man like me needs to get his beak wet with money.

Speaker 86 Not with children, with money.

Speaker 69 I want the beak wet with money.

Speaker 6 You'll have to clarify that.

Speaker 36 Me and this guy, we get it.

Speaker 21 Not everything.

Speaker 81 We don't get it all. Some of it, I don't understand what he's doing.

Speaker 10 But I know, honey, he has sex with children on an island or, I don't know, is somewhere and he throws them into a furnace afterwards.

Speaker 32 And I don't agree with any of that.

Speaker 50 But that tax cut could be the down payment on our first home.

Speaker 34 Don't you want a home so that our kids can play in the yard?

Speaker 36 That pedophile is going to do that for us.

Speaker 93 We need a pedophile who's on our side. When do we get a pedophile who's on our side in this country, honey?

Speaker 67 A pedophile who's not going to get us into wars.

Speaker 6 What about a pedophile for peace?

Speaker 66 A pedophile for peace.

Speaker 63 When the Mossad emails him those tapes, he goes, so what, boys?

Speaker 34 So what?

Speaker 100 You got me fucking a bunch of kids on an island.

Speaker 36 But guess what?

Speaker 4 This war is not in our interests.

Speaker 98 Honey, it took a lot for that man.

Speaker 98 And then the women will start to get it too.

Speaker 28 They'll be like, I got to be honest with you.

Speaker 17 I really didn't like, and they'll say this at town halls.

Speaker 22 They'll be like, I just want to say that I really judged you just because you're a pedophile.

Speaker 92 But when those videos came out of you having sex with those children and then murdering them, And then you still didn't send us my son into war.

Speaker 142 You kept your pledge and promise for peace.

Speaker 77 I said, you know what? You might be a pedophile, but you've saved a lot of lives.

Speaker 116 And everyone's going to clap.

Speaker 93 And they're going to go, that's a pedophile for peace.

Speaker 150 Finally,

Speaker 150 this is going to be the new campaign ads.

Speaker 145 You can't blackmail me.

Speaker 6 I'm a pedophile for peace.

Speaker 121 Sure, a couple of videos came out of me having sex with a mask on in a barn with a couple of younger women of questionable age.

Speaker 102 But I didn't shrink when I was blackmailed by the Mossad.

Speaker 6 I didn't shrink.

Speaker 148 I didn't send our brave men and women in a war.

Speaker 108 I sat there and let them release video after video of me violently assaulting children while I said to myself, I'm not going to put my country in harm's way.

Speaker 34 I won't do it.

Speaker 108 I'm making investments in the future of this country.

Speaker 121 Sure, I'm a pedophile, but I'm a pedophile for peace.

Speaker 57 These war-torn pedophiles want to sacrifice your children.

Speaker 93 I just want to have sex with them.

Speaker 116 I'm a pedophile for peace.

Speaker 70 It's coming.

Speaker 153 It's coming.

Speaker 153 It's coming. Are my predictions ever wrong?

Speaker 28 Lizzo's kind of thinner now.

Speaker 138 But seriously, it does seem like a cover-up.

Speaker 122 It does seem a little bit like a cover-up from the outside.

Speaker 32 I love to be one of those guys who's like, I'm really well sourced.

Speaker 154 I get a lot of information from the inside.

Speaker 2 Nobody's got more sources than me all right are you ready it's a cover-up

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Speaker 67 There are no secrets anymore.

Speaker 140 Here's the thing in America.

Speaker 34 There are no more secrets.

Speaker 39 We all know everything.

Speaker 20 There's nothing to know.

Speaker 29 That's what's really disturbing.

Speaker 63 You know who's on the list.

Speaker 33 You could write the list.

Speaker 104 Go to the

Speaker 104 Forbes list.

Speaker 33 Go to that list.

Speaker 71 It's a lot of that list.

Speaker 93 Go to like

Speaker 80 the list of all the big donors of the two political parties.

Speaker 21 Go to a list of everyone who's been in a position of like power that's ran a country.

Speaker 80 Like, we all know what it is

Speaker 149 there's no inside story here

Speaker 77 there's no palace intrigue there's no like this isn't jfk where you're like how exactly did it have who pulled out how did why did

Speaker 91 we know exactly what this is the most obvious it's obvious to everyone

Speaker 107 There's no one who doesn't know what this is.

Speaker 13 Not one person who thinks who doesn't know what it is.

Speaker 30 It's a honey.

Speaker 42 What is it? Honey trap or a honey pot?

Speaker 23 What do they call this?

Speaker 202 Honey pot.

Speaker 77 Honey pot.

Speaker 121 Honey trap.

Speaker 54 It's a honeypot.

Speaker 32 The children are the honey.

Speaker 64 The pot.

Speaker 158 is the island or the

Speaker 158 you know

Speaker 91 mansion in new york city they got the cameras

Speaker 43 they got the recording devices they get a control file on you what have you been up to

Speaker 59 and uh that's it well why can't it come out well what uh what

Speaker 6 what do you mean why

Speaker 5 what are you talking about why

Speaker 87 should it come out yes should people go should there be justice for the victim yes

Speaker 37 of course

Speaker 44 should you be mad it's not coming out yes but why isn't isn't it coming out?

Speaker 5 Don't ask that.

Speaker 6 It's a complete wrong question to ask.

Speaker 57 The only question is,

Speaker 54 what would it take for it to come out?

Speaker 114 Or

Speaker 67 those are questions that are worth asking.

Speaker 114 How

Speaker 32 is there a legal way to force it out?

Speaker 78 Spoiler alert, there's not.

Speaker 36 You know, but the why isn't it out is like, that's the craziest question.

Speaker 25 That's the craziest thing ever.

Speaker 45 That's like someone in a McDonald's drive-through be like, why am I dropping?

Speaker 116 Why am I gaining weight?

Speaker 86 Wait, why are the most powerful people in the world not putting out that they fuck kids?

Speaker 86 Huh.

Speaker 145 You know, these people that like are kind of smart will like call me and they're like, why do you think that?

Speaker 134 And I go, what?

Speaker 132 That's not even a question. It's not a question.

Speaker 114 That's not the question obviously it obviously why isn't it out

Speaker 76 it's obvious to everyone why it's not out because the most powerful people

Speaker 4 i think we say that but we and we forget that that's like true because social media makes you think

Speaker 6 that we're all like we're talking to presidents and vice presidents and we're like you know we're we're we go viral talking shit and the me you know we're in the media like i you tucker and whoever, and I get to talk to people.

Speaker 37 And, like, you know, like, I think people are like, whoa, like, wow, you're really like fucking serving fucking takes.

Speaker 128 Yeah, who cares? Yeah, no one cares.

Speaker 74 This is the whole narrative of like, these podcasts are sweet.

Speaker 140 You're like, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 114 I don't think so.

Speaker 181 So, a lot of Joe Rogan listeners were really enthused about Kamala Harris before Trump came on.

Speaker 5 Tons of them?

Speaker 21 No, here's what it was: it was

Speaker 30 it's a it's a it's a

Speaker 75 the idea that social media is this

Speaker 90 revolutionary thing is true to a degree to an extent

Speaker 70 there is truth to that even my little friend

Speaker 70 You know, on CNN, that girl

Speaker 61 who was a sweet woman, who looked like she lived under a bridge, that woman had some points she didn't articulate any of them well but the point was like whoa her whole point boiled down to like things are a little different around these parts that is true that is true

Speaker 23 but

Speaker 78 when we say the most powerful people in a world we're not talking about like

Speaker 6 the rock

Speaker 69 Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 6 Like, and maybe the rock someone, I'm not saying he is. I'm kidding.
I don't know.

Speaker 44 When I say the most powerful people in the world, I'm talking about genuinely,

Speaker 77 genuinely

Speaker 47 the most powerful people, rulers of countries, heads of state,

Speaker 77 billionaire industrialists,

Speaker 42 kings, princes, prime ministers, presidents, not podcasters, not comedians, not influencers.

Speaker 60 Not fucking tucker, not, I mean genuinely

Speaker 114 the most powerful people that run companies that suck oil out of the ground, that put minerals, that take rare earth minerals and put them in your phone, people that order troops into battle, people that start wars, people that assassinate political leaders, people that foment coups, the most powerful people in the world.

Speaker 39 And I know we're all yelling at them this week.

Speaker 134 We're all giving it to them.

Speaker 88 Hey, maybe Dan Bongino will resign.

Speaker 99 What do you think about that?

Speaker 17 They don't care. They don't know who it is.
They don't know who he is.

Speaker 50 That's the most powerful people in the world.

Speaker 62 Now, I think a lot of people get it twisted because they're on their phone all day and they're like,

Speaker 51 and they get the idea that like the most powerful person in the world is like Theo Vaughn or Andrew Schultz or Mira.

Speaker 33 And I obviously don't think we're the most powerful people in the world, but people think we have a lot more influence than we do.

Speaker 17 We do not.

Speaker 79 We don't.

Speaker 106 We don't.

Speaker 79 We don't.

Speaker 34 The media,

Speaker 33 whatever, whatever you want to call this sphere, this space,

Speaker 54 whether you work at the Times or whether you're on a podcast, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 94 You can yell as loudly as you want.

Speaker 76 And then you go, well, what about the politicians?

Speaker 51 Well, they're all fucking compromised.

Speaker 32 Let's pretend there's a handful of them that aren't, and there probably are.

Speaker 38 They have no power.

Speaker 9 They're not the most powerful people in the world.

Speaker 46 And the President of the United States, he's the most powerful man in the world.

Speaker 20 No, he's not.

Speaker 21 No, he is not.

Speaker 72 No, he ain't.

Speaker 100 And if the last six months haven't showed you that, I don't know what will.

Speaker 14 He's not.

Speaker 25 It feels nice to say our president is the most powerful person in the world.

Speaker 21 It feels good.

Speaker 45 He's the most powerful person in the world.

Speaker 26 But really, the reality of the situation is he's not.

Speaker 117 He's not.

Speaker 28 And he can't wave a wand.

Speaker 16 And I'm not exempting Trump from blame.

Speaker 24 I don't think he's on.

Speaker 51 I don't think young chicks are his thing.

Speaker 110 And even his enemies tell you that.

Speaker 47 They're just not his thing.

Speaker 49 You know?

Speaker 6 I don't know what else he's fucked around with, but it's not young chicks.

Speaker 41 I don't think it's sex.

Speaker 43 I think whatever it is, he's getting pressure from a lot of people and he's succumbing to it.

Speaker 44 You know?

Speaker 6 He's not a brave, he's not a revolutionary.

Speaker 49 What?

Speaker 28 He owned casinos.

Speaker 153 Hi's.

Speaker 21 The most powerful people in the world are still at this point the most powerful people in the world.

Speaker 65 You can yell and scream and screech and tweet.

Speaker 53 You can stomp and kick your feet.

Speaker 147 You can't, I wish I had, I wish I could just go on a willy walk. It's just too late.

Speaker 124 I don't have it, but you can scream and yell.

Speaker 41 But

Speaker 170 the reality is the most powerful people in the world, they killed all these people.

Speaker 85 John Luke Brunel, Epstein's best friend, modeling guy, hung himself.

Speaker 117 Epstein hung himself.

Speaker 129 Virginia Guffray, she's killed.

Speaker 46 Get up, Tina Brown.

Speaker 78 Go to Drudge.

Speaker 44 Tina Brown, or Tina Brown also wrote this.

Speaker 16 I think it's on the free

Speaker 152 press.

Speaker 86 Tina Brown.

Speaker 24 Yeah, she wrote a thing. Now go down here.

Speaker 21 Tina Brown actually talks about this weird encounter she had with Epstein.

Speaker 6 Make this bigger.

Speaker 115 So she did, she ran this thing, which was the editor of Vanity Fair.

Speaker 19 She ran

Speaker 25 this thing. And I'm going to read this because

Speaker 67 I'm going to read this in full because it's actually worth reading.

Speaker 25 It's actually good.

Speaker 139 Dimly remembering an item about the arrest of a New York high roller named Epstein, who was once asked for a date, Saranoff, and this is someone she's talking about, who's, I think, another writer, dug through the Palm Beach police files and was stunned to learn that the department had identified as many as three dozen underage girls who had been trafficked for sex by Jeffrey Epstein, the youngest imported from the Balkans at age 14.

Speaker 84 By the way, let's just stop there for a minute.

Speaker 144 These people are evil.

Speaker 96 It's not, oh, I thought she was 18.

Speaker 144 These people are evil.

Speaker 60 They're human traffickers.

Speaker 51 They're not like, he's not a gadfly.

Speaker 78 The people that are implicated in this are implicated in evil.

Speaker 140 It's not a party that we got out of hand.

Speaker 88 It's someone didn't grab a tit.

Speaker 24 It's not fucking even Andrew Cuomo, that fucking retard lasagna brain who grabbed some tits at the Christmas party.

Speaker 105 These people are

Speaker 170 he was in the Hamptons.

Speaker 123 He was at 75 Main, that restaurant I left, run by those gypsies and that gypsy.

Speaker 6 But anyway, who cares?

Speaker 134 Fuck him.

Speaker 6 But that pie is good, that mini pie.

Speaker 34 Cuomo was eating there like sadly, like depressed, just eating in the Hampton.

Speaker 102 And then Eric Adams is out there too.

Speaker 146 They're trying to suck up that money to run against Bin Laden.

Speaker 44 But,

Speaker 92 and

Speaker 94 so these people are eating, like, the more you read about the Epstein stuff or learn about the Epstein stuff, it isn't like there's, there's this weird idea, and it's just the power of narrative.

Speaker 109 And the power of narrative is like,

Speaker 23 she was a stripper.

Speaker 116 Some girls at a 17 look like they're 30.

Speaker 50 That's not what this was.

Speaker 16 They're importing women from other countries and our country.

Speaker 98 They're as young as 14 and they're probably younger.

Speaker 51 They're raping them, they're destroying their lives, and they're killing some of them.

Speaker 56 Some of these women are disappearing, and we're going to read about that in a minute.

Speaker 50 But just understand what this is.

Speaker 101 This isn't like a whoopsie.

Speaker 50 This isn't like, I can't believe you look so much older, you are so mature.

Speaker 31 And not that that wouldn't be scummy, but that's not even this.

Speaker 81 So, understand what this is.

Speaker 84 This is full evil.

Speaker 54 I'm an evil person.

Speaker 28 I'm going to defile youth and ruin lives.

Speaker 43 And in the process of doing that, I'm going to

Speaker 61 manipulate an entire political system

Speaker 52 based on people's appetites for this type of

Speaker 84 like,

Speaker 94 you know, incredibly evil behavior.

Speaker 43 And I'm going to provide young women to these serial abusers who have a lot of power.

Speaker 61 And those women are going to be beaten, raped, assaulted, abused, and yes, some of them killed

Speaker 78 and they're going to disappear and we're going to cover all of this up and we're going to keep files on everybody and we're going to launder money for them and run drugs and run arms, illegal arms,

Speaker 4 and we're going to do all of this and there's going to be a, we're going to work within the

Speaker 132 underground economy, the parallel financial system that exists.

Speaker 139 And we're going to launder large sums of money, which is another Epstein skill that people like Whitney Webb talk about.

Speaker 17 We had her on the show many years ago,

Speaker 119 writes very detailed about this, whole books about it.

Speaker 132 And that's what he's doing.

Speaker 31 But I just wanted to stop on this.

Speaker 56 We're going to keep going because this is interesting, but just stop and know what this is.

Speaker 27 And that's why people should be angry.

Speaker 107 I'm not saying diminish your anger.

Speaker 74 You shouldn't.

Speaker 75 But

Speaker 75 know what it really is.

Speaker 45 It's not like, oh, she's how old? Whoa, she looked.

Speaker 28 it's not this.

Speaker 6 Dozen underage girls who have been trafficked by Epstein, the youngest imported from the Balkans at age 14.

Speaker 16 Do you know how young a 14-year-old is?

Speaker 146 That's insane.

Speaker 46 That's just, again, evil noted.

Speaker 51 So how did this serial predator, the DOJ, report says Epstein harmed over 1,000 victims, get off with a slap on the wrist?

Speaker 168 Only two counts of solicitation of a minor for prostitution.

Speaker 63 Spurred by the suspicions of a Palm Beach society lady who lived close to Epstein, Sarnoff brought the story to me.

Speaker 181 This is Tina Brown talking.

Speaker 130 She's the editor of Vanity Fair.

Speaker 24 Or, you know, at that point, at that, I'm sorry, that time, maybe it was a Daily Beast.

Speaker 151 And we launched a six-part Daily Beast investigation.

Speaker 17 Yeah, she's not the editor of Vanity Fair.

Speaker 56 She was, maybe it doesn't matter, but this is Daily Beast.

Speaker 27 We launched a six-part Daily Beast investigation about the rank perversion of justice enabled by Epstein's money, connections, political donation.

Speaker 56 She revealed how Epstein's cracked team of all-star lawyers discredited the young victims, many of whom had been abused previously or came from rough backgrounds.

Speaker 84 The younger, the better.

Speaker 78 Epstein instructed a local teenager who was paid to bring girls to his home.

Speaker 51 The younger, the better.

Speaker 47 Again, this is what

Speaker 6 they were doing.

Speaker 78 The B stories landed with less impact than they would have seven years later in the Me Too reckoning.

Speaker 56 Epstein was not a big name at the time.

Speaker 96 He was a Manhattan Finance and Cafe Society figure who I'd met several times at the opening receptions of the Clinton Global Initiative.

Speaker 111 Aren't they always helping people, the Clintons?

Speaker 142 We never thanked them enough.

Speaker 107 To which he shoveled funding to burnish his philanthropic bona fides.

Speaker 72 He struck me as a cold-eyed operator busy working the room.

Speaker 51 After we ran Sarnoff's piece in July 2010, Epstein called me personally to tell me that, quote, she was a well-known nutcase and to cease and desist.

Speaker 17 When I barreled ahead anyway, I had a creepy encounter with Epstein a few weeks later.

Speaker 181 I returned from lunch.

Speaker 139 And I was startled to find him sitting in a chair in my glass-walled office in Manhattan's IAC building.

Speaker 100 It seems he had managed to blow through the front-desk security and arrive unannounced.

Speaker 107 He was morose and menacing.

Speaker 151 His snake eyes narrowed.

Speaker 38 Just stop,

Speaker 27 he said heavily as I stared at him from the doorway.

Speaker 51 There will be consequences if you don't.

Speaker 25 I asked him to leave and suggested he talk to our lawyer.

Speaker 15 You heard me, he said in a deadly tone.

Speaker 202 Stop.

Speaker 6 We did not stop, but there were no more legal flurries from Epstein.

Speaker 20 It seems he had rightly computed that the story would fade if he didn't fan it.

Speaker 28 Now keep going down

Speaker 58 because

Speaker 98 we're going to read a few people here who have been killed.

Speaker 50 You can keep going.

Speaker 51 That are related to this case because it's not only Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 78 There are other people who have.

Speaker 52 So here, Konchita Sarnoff, who's a writer, reminded me, Tina Brown, that there have been five fatalities, counting Epstein's death, all associated with the case and the sad, sordid world that's whirled around him.

Speaker 155 Now, by the way, these are five that we know about.

Speaker 38 Some of them were higher-profile people.

Speaker 146 May 30th, 2017, Lee Sky Patrick, who was 16 when she was sexually abused by Epstein, was one of his first victims to file charges against him in 2008, was found dead at the age of 29 of an accidental drug overdose in a West Palm Beach motel.

Speaker 15 August 10th, 2019, Jeffrey Epstein was discovered hanged at his cell.

Speaker 56 February 19th, 2022, John Luke Brunel,

Speaker 202 A close Epstein partner in Sleaze, whose modeling agency, MC2, is a major funnel of trafficked underage girls to Epstein and his circle, apparently hanged himself with knotted bed sheets in his cell while awaiting trial at Lasande Prison in Paris for an alleged rape of a minor and sexual assault.

Speaker 24 May 23rd, 2023, Carolyn Andreano, a 36-year-old mother of five, was found unresponsive on the floor of a West Palm Beach hotel room.

Speaker 103 Andreano was abused by Epstein starting at the age of 14, servicing him at his Palm Beach mansion more than 100 times.

Speaker 56 Her testimony was key to the conviction of Epstein.

Speaker 146 Procurist Ghislaine Maxwell, who is now serving a 20-year sentence in a federal prison in Tallahassee, Florida.

Speaker 96 April 25th, 2025, Virginia Jufre, 41-year-old mother of three, committed suicide in Australia.

Speaker 36 Those are people

Speaker 6 that

Speaker 45 were

Speaker 17 provably connected to Epstein publicly and through court filings and everything else.

Speaker 26 Their deaths are suspicious.

Speaker 24 You know, you kill one journalist, you silence a thousand.

Speaker 151 That's kind of the, you know, you kill one person, you silence a thousand.

Speaker 74 That's kind of the way way people look at it when an authoritarian uh dictator whatever kills one journalist

Speaker 115 a thousand of them go you know what maybe we won't pursue that story and the same could be said if you get rid of one victim with information the rest of the victims go hey you heard what happened to her right

Speaker 17 i would you know take your foot off the gas let's let's live and let live and let's move on

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Speaker 21 Deeply evil,

Speaker 32 deeply

Speaker 32 troubling.

Speaker 70 I think Trump knows they'll kill him.

Speaker 24 I think Trump knows that they'll kill him.

Speaker 56 I think he does.

Speaker 2 Truly, I believe he knows that.

Speaker 78 I believe he knows that the people that killed all of those people would find a way to kill him if this came out.

Speaker 15 I believe that he knows that.

Speaker 41 I believe he believes that some faction of those people tried to kill him

Speaker 5 already.

Speaker 6 Don't quite know who.

Speaker 101 But I believe that is what he believes.

Speaker 6 I don't know that.

Speaker 145 I don't have any information on that.

Speaker 96 You know, like, I can't tell you.

Speaker 50 Like, it's not like a guy, like, I call, like, someone told me that.

Speaker 20 I don't know what else

Speaker 27 evidence-wise you would need.

Speaker 9 I think Trump likes living.

Speaker 56 I don't think, I think he's got a lot of good things about him and some bad things, but I don't know that he's a selfless hero.

Speaker 21 I don't know if you look at his life.

Speaker 51 I mean, yes, he's done a lot.

Speaker 15 You know, Bannon talks about, you know, the hero's journey or whatever, pumping the fist.

Speaker 17 All that's incredibly impressive.

Speaker 150 I don't know if he's dying for this.

Speaker 36 I don't know if he's dying

Speaker 51 to drop a dime on everybody.

Speaker 44 I can't.

Speaker 101 Now, there's financial reasons. He probably doesn't want it out.

Speaker 78 And there's business deals and there's the future.

Speaker 66 But you got to remember, let's go back to the very real reality of the people that fuck with this die.

Speaker 14 They're gone.

Speaker 36 And I don't think that's lost on Trump.

Speaker 73 Again, this is my theory.

Speaker 29 My show is my theories.

Speaker 27 You don't think they're interesting.

Speaker 107 You don't have to listen.

Speaker 56 And maybe you think they're entertaining and I'm wrong.

Speaker 32 But do you think it doesn't cross his mind that all these people have died?

Speaker 5 Do you think that doesn't enter into his mind?

Speaker 142 Someone's killing someone.

Speaker 34 Someone's killing.

Speaker 21 I mean, all these people are dying.

Speaker 142 It seems weird.

Speaker 36 Somebody's getting killed somehow

Speaker 108 with this case.

Speaker 5 And that's not lost on him.

Speaker 53 I don't think he doubts that if he were to do something here

Speaker 76 that would implicate

Speaker 61 the level of people we're talking about, his life might

Speaker 91 prematurely end.

Speaker 38 Might not.

Speaker 73 But it's certainly a possibility.

Speaker 24 It's on the table.

Speaker 38 The other thing that's on the table that the media is now running with, bless their heart, is that nothing happened.

Speaker 116 That's actually a theory that Epstein was like a creep.

Speaker 63 And Trump even said this this creep a creep is a guy

Speaker 51 that goes up to a woman at a bar and goes how's your husband I'm a big fan of that guy that's a creep a creep is not a guy that imports a 14 year old from the Balkans to be raped in this in America by a billionaire that's not a creep that's an evil monster

Speaker 51 That's a big difference in definition.

Speaker 33 So when people are writing articles like, there is no cabal, okay, blackmail operation, it was not that.

Speaker 50 It was not, it had nothing to do with the intelligence agencies.

Speaker 60 Now, by the way, isn't it funny?

Speaker 47 Everything in Russia is a thing.

Speaker 57 Everything Putin does is an Orwellian conspiracy to take over the world.

Speaker 88 He's going to invade every country tomorrow, Poland.

Speaker 140 He's marching into Poland.

Speaker 61 He's going to invade every country.

Speaker 51 He's killed everyone, every journalist.

Speaker 32 I'm sure he's killed a few people. I don't doubt it.

Speaker 60 But every shooting, death,

Speaker 83 every oligarch, it's all directly attributable to him.

Speaker 23 Every oligarch who dies, and by the way, a lot of oligarchs are getting whacked, and some of them are probably on his orders, and some of them are on other people's orders because some people are in this for the love of the game.

Speaker 34 Now, but everything's Putin and every China, and I don't doubt that China's doing nefarious shit.

Speaker 106 But it's always a vast conspiracy with China's behind it.

Speaker 57 Dubai is funding everything and they're in the colleges.

Speaker 22 Dubai brought all the trannies to do the Gaza protest.

Speaker 202 What?

Speaker 46 Doesn't even make sense.

Speaker 32 I don't even have trannies over there, really.

Speaker 38 I don't have a ton of trainees in Dubai.

Speaker 20 Well, no, but they came and they brought all their Dubai trannies for the Gaza protest.

Speaker 202 What?

Speaker 89 Who?

Speaker 116 But we're all supposed to believe.

Speaker 16 That everything's manipulated by somebody.

Speaker 152 Russia installed Trump.

Speaker 42 He's the Russian president.

Speaker 60 So everything, and then they all come on my show, Chris Cuomo, all of them.

Speaker 36 They go, What are you guys so excited?

Speaker 68 These conspiracies are obsessed about.

Speaker 202 What?

Speaker 119 You just told me Dubai runs the colleges, Russia installed the president,

Speaker 55 and you told me that Emmanuel Macron's wife is a woman.

Speaker 5 These are all lies.

Speaker 121 Kidding, that's fun.

Speaker 102 Candace will play that.

Speaker 6 It's called cross-marketing, actually.

Speaker 86 But

Speaker 23 this isn't.

Speaker 23 Hold on.

Speaker 45 Hold on a minute.

Speaker 121 Hold on a minute.

Speaker 104 Russia installed the president.

Speaker 67 Dubai shipped the trannies to Columbia University to beat the drums for Gaza.

Speaker 69 But the guy with the island and the mansion

Speaker 72 without any money, whose friends were billionaires and and was at the highest levels of society,

Speaker 142 who got off on it, like technicality, essentially, got a sweetheart slap on the wrist deal, who Alexander Acosta said, I was told to back off the case because he, quote, belonged to intelligence, who had cameras in his bathroom, in his mansion in New York, the largest private residence in Manhattan he could not afford.

Speaker 60 He had a private island, a ranch in New Mexico.

Speaker 100 Many, many, many women testified that they were ordered to perform sex acts on VIP clients while cameras were rolling.

Speaker 76 The Attorney General of America, Pam Bondi, told us there were 10,000 hours of trial pornography.

Speaker 61 Think about that.

Speaker 63 And the guy,

Speaker 29 when he's going to stand trial, when he's in on suicide watch in the most heavily surveilled prison block in america hangs himself

Speaker 36 because the guards fell asleep and the cameras didn't work that's not a conspiracy that's the only one that's not

Speaker 66 dubai shipped the trannies to colombia russia installed the president But nobody, there's no fuckery with this.

Speaker 33 This was just a rich guy with a couple of wacky friends in an island.

Speaker 72 And

Speaker 76 it was a comedy of errors.

Speaker 72 They all just kept falling in 12-year-old pussy.

Speaker 36 And then they hung themselves by accident.

Speaker 30 But everything else is a conspiracy in our society.

Speaker 21 Everything else.

Speaker 23 It seems odd.

Speaker 73 It seems like the one that implicates our people is just a bunch of

Speaker 61 limity sticket, a series of unfortunate events.

Speaker 102 isn't it odd to anyone that there's people writing op-eds and these are like smart people and they go well there's conspiracy you know that's the whole thing everyone loves conspiracies because they're and actually this guy he's yes there's bad people out there bad people do bad things that's the intellectual response to this some people are rich and they're bad

Speaker 67 yeah prosecute them

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Speaker 25 Get up this free press article by this guy.

Speaker 127 I didn't want to do this, but I have to do it.

Speaker 102 I try to like Barry Weiss. I try to.

Speaker 65 She told us recently the Soviet Union was responsible for anti-Semitism.

Speaker 65 Barry,

Speaker 145 I mean, really?

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Speaker 170 Jillian Michaels, the fitness trainer, is interviewing Barry West, Barry, who will not come on the show.

Speaker 8 She goes, Why is everyone so mad at Israel?

Speaker 115 She goes, Well, Soviet Union's actually been doing all the Soviet Union's doing it.

Speaker 17 Well,

Speaker 21 glad we cleared that up.

Speaker 94 She's like, It's actually the

Speaker 51 Magna Carta, actually.

Speaker 129 It's very anti-Semitic.

Speaker 167 The free press.

Speaker 63 So this guy,

Speaker 6 Sadnovic Sadonovic, he wrote this article, the free press.

Speaker 110 So the free press ran these two articles, one of them to their credit by Tina Brown, the article we just read where she goes, yeah, there is something going on.

Speaker 17 And Tina Brown was like, these MAGA loonies do have something going on. But then this other dude,

Speaker 33 yeah,

Speaker 43 the Epstein

Speaker 8 conspiracy theorists will never be satisfied.

Speaker 134 By the way, you haven't even tried to satisfy us.

Speaker 116 You haven't even tried.

Speaker 71 There's been no attempt.

Speaker 116 There's not even a half-hearted attempt to satisfy us.

Speaker 108 Make it bigger.

Speaker 16 I'm going to have to read this, folks.

Speaker 4 You're going to have to bear with me because it's completely insane.

Speaker 123 The MAGA revolution, haunted by the ghost of Jeffrey Epstein, is eating its own.

Speaker 3 No one should be surprised.

Speaker 85 It started in the summer of 2020.

Speaker 146 That was when Donald Trump did something American presidents usually don't do, public question his attorney general, and in particular, his finding that the sex trafficker had committed suicide at the Metropolitan Correction Center in Lower Manhattan.

Speaker 139 The president suggested, without offering evidence, that the truth was murkier and more sinister, was it suicide?

Speaker 46 Trump, then facing facing a tough reelection battle, mused in an interview, was he killed?

Speaker 134 Trump's remarks were couched in an off-the-cuff comment about Epstein's partner in crime, Gislaine Maxwell, who had been charged with helping Epstein procure underage girls and he was convicted in 2021 and is now serving a 20-year sentence in federal prison in Tallahassee, Florida.

Speaker 24 Quote, her boyfriend died in jail and people are still trying to figure out how it happened, the president said of Maxwell.

Speaker 103 Since then, an entire cottage industry, mostly on the MAGA right, untrue, by the way, that's not true, has emerged from the confusion and it has been obsessed over the truth.

Speaker 21 What really happened to Epstein?

Speaker 28 Did he really kill himself?

Speaker 114 Or was his suicide staged by powerful people afraid he might steal their secrets?

Speaker 139 The conventional wisdom, so long as Joe Biden was present, that we'd never know.

Speaker 203 But then Trump was elected a second time and the conspiracy theorists were elated.

Speaker 78 Finally, he would find out who was on Epstein's client list.

Speaker 46 All the puppets and puppet masters would be revealed.

Speaker 41 The great interconnected webs of deceit would be cracked wide open.

Speaker 46 When in February the Justice Department declassified its first trove of Epstein files, it seemed like we were finally getting somewhere, although right-wing influencers were disappointed by the lack of new information.

Speaker 16 Fast forward to this week, on Tuesday, the president sounded like the deep state he had run against in 2016 and 2020.

Speaker 103 That is true.

Speaker 78 He had come to the official ruling, which found that Epstein was not murdered, that the public had not been lied to about his death, that there was no global conspiracy connecting Bill Clinton and Bill Gates and the Mossad Israel spy agency.

Speaker 6 You still talking about Jeffrey Epstein, the president said after he was asked by a reporter at a recent Justice Department announcement that FBI agents had concluded there was no top-secret Epstein client list, no list of ultra-powerful people who had been blackmailed by Epstein, who was assumed in woke right circles to be working for naturally Israel.

Speaker 84 Now, by the way, let's clear this up right now.

Speaker 24 This idea that Jeffrey Epstein was somehow connected to Israel is not because his last name is Epstein, or it's not because like rabid anti-Semitism, or it's not because like I think the Jews control the weather or they're responsible for all the things that go on in the world that are not good.

Speaker 6 Okay.

Speaker 25 I've simply requested that Israel stop the burning of the cans.

Speaker 6 Now,

Speaker 107 the reason that we think he worked for

Speaker 85 Israel, perhaps, potentially, is because his best friend, Ghislaine Maxwell's father,

Speaker 45 provably

Speaker 138 was an Israeli intelligence asset.

Speaker 11 Provably.

Speaker 117 So Epstein's best friend,

Speaker 6 like if I was doing a lot of mafia shit and my best friend's dad was a big mafia guy like if I was doing mafia shit like extorting people and whacking people or whatever eating pasta and I do that but like all the other stuff

Speaker 85 I was behaving in a mafia like way and people go well you know his best friend's dad's like huge in the mafia that would just make you think well maybe he's like somehow in the mafia

Speaker 203 It's not like a rabid anti-Semitic crazy conspiracy theory to suggest that like maybe that's

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Speaker 46 Trump is fond of

Speaker 123 promulgating conspiracy theories when he's running for office and looking to stoke his base, whether it be questions about whether Obama was born or whether Biden won the 2020 election.

Speaker 139 Suffice to say it was not sitting well with his base, or at least the most radical and vociferous, arguably influential voices inside of it.

Speaker 168 So then he quotes a bunch of people, Loomer and Cernovich and whoever, people, Tucker, and all these people.

Speaker 46 So go down and let's go to his surmise, okay?

Speaker 6 He talks about how Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK alone.

Speaker 4 He just wants to throw that in this writer.

Speaker 6 Here we go.

Speaker 201 Today's conspiracy theorists, by contrast, are not simply reacting to the appearance of official dishonesty, but the reality of it.

Speaker 6 It's not that hard to understand why so many Americans following the innumerable lies they've been told about Russia Gate and police brutality and the COVID lab leak and on and on,

Speaker 74 might conclude that Jeffrey Epstein was the linchpin at the center of a sprawling blackmail scheme.

Speaker 15 That he didn't just kill himself, even though he had good reasons to do so.

Speaker 43 That he was actually being silenced by the powers that be to ensure that the powers at B would never be on earth.

Speaker 24 And yet, two things can be true at once.

Speaker 16 We can be lied to to about some things, but not all of them.

Speaker 32 Okay.

Speaker 69 I mean,

Speaker 9 alas, it's very difficult to make people believe

Speaker 46 that the Epstein plot is not a plot because the whole Sori saga does reveal that some of the most powerful people on earth are depraved and spineless and they do sick things like sleep with 14-year-old girls.

Speaker 23 Okay, how about arresting them?

Speaker 130 Like his point is like this crazy point.

Speaker 6 He's like, well, yeah, I mean, there are a lot of terrible people committing crimes and they are the most powerful people in the world.

Speaker 89 Right.

Speaker 27 What's more, it appears to confirm the original pedophile faux scandal pizza gate, or at least it appears to confirm that the nutbags who insisted Democrats were trafficking in young women were not all wrong.

Speaker 145 And yet we should avoid conflating one immorality with others.

Speaker 6 A lack of character with a much more ambitious plot to control the money supply or wage war or whatever else it is that some of the more outlandish Epstein conspiracy theories allege.

Speaker 100 And we should steer clear of the fallacy of composition, the mistaken belief that because one part is corrupt, the whole is corrupt.

Speaker 24 Meaning the whole of our institutions, government, universities, major corporations is not owned by some invisible demonic Zionist entity.

Speaker 129 But by the way, no one's saying that.

Speaker 203 People are saying Jeffrey Epstein ran a blackmail operation.

Speaker 23 It's like crazy.

Speaker 70 No one's saying that everything in the world is controlled by this demonic entity.

Speaker 24 Some people are, but most serious people are just going, no, he clearly ran a blackmail operation for someone.

Speaker 73 Maybe he was selling this to the highest bidder.

Speaker 9 Maybe it wasn't that it was one intelligence agency.

Speaker 78 Maybe some intelligence agencies wanted info on other pit.

Speaker 43 I don't know how it was structured, but like this idea that it's like an insane.

Speaker 32 I mean, listen to this. Go to the last thing, right?

Speaker 100 But yes, there are terrible people across the globe who have ascended to the highest echelons of institutional power and they are disgraced and they should be rooted out and until they are, the distrust in those institutions will not abate but no as the president of the united states has discovered there is no surreptitious choreography taking place behind the veneer of the everyday we are not being manipulated the manipulation if that's the right word is of our own design it is a reflection of our atomization and our vacuousness and cannot be so easily extinguished I don't think it can be easily extinguished.

Speaker 32 And anyone who attempts to extinguish it, including the president, the author of our many delusions, will be disavowed, discredited, assumed to be part of the Greater COVID.

Speaker 57 So this guy wrote this paragraph.

Speaker 25 Yes, there are terrible people across the globe who have ascended to the highest echelons of institutional power.

Speaker 50 And the next paragraph goes, but they're not manipulating you and they wouldn't try.

Speaker 50 I mean, this is an article.

Speaker 68 It was written, edited.

Speaker 36 It's out there.

Speaker 29 People are sharing it, I'm sure.

Speaker 58 People think it's like a smart, this is like stuff that the so-called smart set

Speaker 51 chattering class reads and they pat themselves on the back.

Speaker 54 good work so they're a terrible people at the top but they're not working together they're just bad and they do horrible things and they sleep with 14 year olds and they're depraved and spineless but they would never think to blackmail each other they'd never think to cover for each other and they wouldn't think to lie about it they're not doing that just because they're sick pedophiles who have risen to the top of our society and have gobs of money and the means to use violence.

Speaker 81 Don't think they would

Speaker 84 who believes it whose head works like this whose head does that where they go well just because

Speaker 73 it's like the craziest

Speaker 73 it's like your mother going now the drugs are in your room your room smells like pot your eyes are red you've missed school Someone saw you smoking outside of the school.

Speaker 21 Your friends are all drug addicts.

Speaker 88 Many of them are going to jail.

Speaker 54 Tommy's mother just kicked him out of the house.

Speaker 29 The piss test came back for weed and you said it's because you were at Tommy's house and you inhaled smoke in his room by mistake.

Speaker 63 You're telling me after all of this, you're looking at me and telling me you're not high.

Speaker 38 No.

Speaker 6 No.

Speaker 60 And then I write an article where I go, yes, everyone's high.

Speaker 164 Yes, they all went to jail.

Speaker 47 Yes, your son hangs out with them.

Speaker 25 Yes, a drug test came back positive.

Speaker 124 Yes, Tommy's mother saw him smoking a choint outside of school.

Speaker 111 But let's not get confused.

Speaker 32 Let's not muddy the waters here.

Speaker 13 Yes, there are a lot of stoners in your son's grade.

Speaker 139 Many of them are his best friends.

Speaker 151 And they've all ascended to positions of power.

Speaker 102 And that's sad that these stoners are just running the show.

Speaker 112 But they're not manipulating you.

Speaker 115 And to think they are is crazy.

Speaker 181 You're a paranoid anti-Semite.

Speaker 74 And then you're like, wait a minute, they're all Italian.

Speaker 5 You go, shut up.

Speaker 96 You're a paranoid anti-Semite to think that all of your son's stoner friends might be trying to conceal their weed smoking.

Speaker 33 That's really all this is.

Speaker 30 This is just a bunch of drug addicts.

Speaker 9 And then someone's going like, don't you think it's possible that any of them are lying about their drug use?

Speaker 32 And then there's all these articles written by people going, well, I actually don't think that's happening.

Speaker 21 yes they're on drugs but that's not the way the world works you can't just get a bunch of rich people together to cover shit up it's like no you can

Speaker 107 you absolutely can it's all the and this is not a conspiracy theory about the Jewish people by the way it has nothing to do with Jewish people the vast I guarantee you The people on that island were every race, creed, culture, whatever,

Speaker 44 rich, powerful people that are partaking in acts of things that we don't even know.

Speaker 132 I think that's the other thing.

Speaker 24 I think we're thinking it's other things.

Speaker 176 It's not.

Speaker 42 This is like

Speaker 6 other stuff.

Speaker 146 This is like Marquis de Sad, like times 10, violence, murder, killing.

Speaker 84 This is real bad, my guess, again.

Speaker 78 Only because every other scandal in history that involved children being abused also involved them being killed.

Speaker 108 If you're going to abuse a child and ruin its life, you'll also kill them.

Speaker 38 This guy write that article.

Speaker 122 No, they just raped them.

Speaker 103 They were actually not killing them.

Speaker 123 They just raped them repeatedly, causing them to disassociate.

Speaker 24 To think that they would kill them is crazy.

Speaker 23 It's just.

Speaker 119 It looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck.

Speaker 203 But to suggest it's a duck makes you an anti-Semite and a not.

Speaker 202 What?

Speaker 35 Because it could be a goose.

Speaker 67 Yeah, but that's still a bird and it kind of moves like a duck.

Speaker 5 And isn't that also a problem if it's a goose?

Speaker 108 Shut up.

Speaker 139 up you're anti-semitic and insane how do you live you're such a paranoid monster i'm just saying they're both birds but i actually think it's a duck it's a human with a duck sound what it's making duck noises to make you think it's a bird why would it do that why would a human well there's things called duck calls yeah but i think that's for duck hunters not only it's also for people that are fucking with you Why would someone just blow a duck call?

Speaker 32 So I would think it's a duck.

Speaker 42 Have you seen the show Duck Dynasty?

Speaker 12 What?

Speaker 77 Yes, I guess I have.

Speaker 31 Well, a lot of those guys are racist.

Speaker 104 But, but

Speaker 80 what are we doing here?

Speaker 100 I just said I saw this thing that quacked like a duck and it looked like a duck.

Speaker 73 And I said it's probably a duck.

Speaker 107 Well, maybe you should go hang out with your Nazi friends at the Duck Dynasty.

Speaker 31 Fucking lake, you anti-semi-beast cat.

Speaker 142 What?

Speaker 76 And then that guy like finishes that article. He rolls over.
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