446 - Epstein Cover-Up, Elon’s K-Hole, & AI Chatbot Love

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Tim discusses FBI Director Kash Patel’s recent statement about Jeffrey Epstein, breaking news regarding Elon Musk’s shocking drug use in the White House, how he likes his billionaires, and a chilling story of AI chatbot love gone wrong. 



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Speaker 9 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Tim Dylan podcast.

Speaker 14 Thank you so much for joining us every week

Speaker 16 here on YouTube.

Speaker 17 Our good friends at YouTube.

Speaker 19 I want to thank Dan Bongino and Cash Patel

Speaker 21 for setting the record straight.

Speaker 23 And Joe DeRosa is calling me right now.

Speaker 24 I'm on my podcast.

Speaker 25 Plug your special right now.

Speaker 27 It comes out July 21st on my YouTube,

Speaker 27 which is Joe DeRosa Comedy on YouTube. This is Joe DeRosa.
I have a special coming out. It's called I Never Promised You a Rose Garden.
July 21st.

Speaker 24 July 21st.

Speaker 28 Joe DeRosa, everybody. Thank you so much.

Speaker 30 Thank you, Jim.

Speaker 31 People say I don't have guests, but I do, actually.

Speaker 14 I do, and I do support the community.

Speaker 32 The great Joe DeRosa, very funny.

Speaker 34 Dan Bagino Kesh Patel come out and they say Jeffrey Epstein killed himself and there was nothing funny about that butler assassination attempt.

Speaker 33 Nothing fishy about that.

Speaker 38 I don't know how to feel about this.

Speaker 40 It

Speaker 40 seems

Speaker 43 odd that they would say that.

Speaker 21 Number one,

Speaker 11 Jeffrey Epstein should not have been allowed to kill himself. He was on suicide watch.

Speaker 21 That's the whole thing.

Speaker 48 You see?

Speaker 49 he should not have been allowed.

Speaker 50 Try to get the video.

Speaker 51 There's a video of Cash Patel.

Speaker 19 I think he's with Dan Bungino and they're going, yeah, it's just, you know, it's a suicide.

Speaker 54 That's what I'm telling you.

Speaker 55 You want to believe what you believe.

Speaker 57 And it's one of those things where you go, well, it seems odd.

Speaker 59 And they're like, we don't have video of

Speaker 64 him doing it, but we have a video that there was no one in the cell.

Speaker 65 Because remember, like the cameras broke and the guards fell asleep and

Speaker 21 all of that happened.

Speaker 68 It does seem odd that a guy who is standing trial

Speaker 22 for human trafficking, who had the

Speaker 34 most high-profile human trafficking case in history, who had been publicly linked to

Speaker 69 some of the most powerful people in the world, from presidents to billionaires,

Speaker 77 seems like

Speaker 79 a guy you would

Speaker 21 kill.

Speaker 45 Again, that's just my,

Speaker 80 you know, what's the great thing about conspiracies?

Speaker 81 Usually, this is what people do.

Speaker 76 They go like this.

Speaker 79 They go, well, you're just saying what you would do.

Speaker 84 Yes,

Speaker 47 absolutely.

Speaker 84 I'm a president.

Speaker 80 I'm didddling miners on an island.

Speaker 85 There's a guy who's about to talk about it.

Speaker 84 Yeah, I'd kill him.

Speaker 87 You're just saying what you would do.

Speaker 40 That's what conspiracies are.

Speaker 57 They're just, you're projecting what you would do onto other people.

Speaker 79 That's correct.

Speaker 60 How did these people get to have billions of dollars letting people talk?

Speaker 90 Remember all the Boeing whistleblowers that just started like dying and shooting themselves in motel parking lots and all this?

Speaker 54 How do you get to run a company like Boeing by letting everybody just run their mouth, flap their gums?

Speaker 93 Does anyone believe that the people that

Speaker 64 were in the position to have Jeffrey Epstein killed wouldn't have?

Speaker 28 Let's just start there.

Speaker 67 Let's just start there with the morality.

Speaker 69 Does anyone believe if you went to any of these presidents, prime ministers, CEOs, billionaires, and said we could get them,

Speaker 29 do you think any of them went, well, yeah, but isn't that morally wrong?

Speaker 98 Let's start there.

Speaker 99 Does anyone believe that they would go, yeah, but I don't know.

Speaker 95 I stopped the line at killing.

Speaker 80 That's my line.

Speaker 101 Having sex with children who've been enslaved on an island, fine.

Speaker 59 But I won't, I will not be a part of this.

Speaker 99 Does anyone believe that?

Speaker 98 Let's just start there.

Speaker 60 So there's a few things you have to believe.

Speaker 76 You have to believe that the people were either morally against murder.

Speaker 96 That's the first thing you would have to believe.

Speaker 93 The second thing you would have to believe is that let's say they weren't morally against it, but they couldn't pull it off.

Speaker 104 They couldn't do it.

Speaker 105 They couldn't do it.

Speaker 76 And again, let's review. The leaders of countries,

Speaker 107 billionaires,

Speaker 108 people that run the government couldn't accomplish this.

Speaker 56 You got to believe one of those two things.

Speaker 21 They either wouldn't have done it, which I think we can all agree is malarkey.

Speaker 76 That's ridiculous.

Speaker 60 I would never kill someone.

Speaker 73 Can you imagine?

Speaker 30 I wouldn't kill someone.

Speaker 86 These people press a button and everyone's dead all the time.

Speaker 110 This is their job. They kill people constantly, all day, every day.

Speaker 31 That's what they do.

Speaker 76 So it would be odd that the one guy they wouldn't want to kill is the one that had information about things that would ruin their life.

Speaker 76 That would be odd that they had pangs of conscience at that point. Okay, that's point one.

Speaker 47 Point two,

Speaker 89 they couldn't do it.

Speaker 76 For some reason, they couldn't figure out how to do it, except they kind of did

Speaker 112 because the guards went to sleep and there's no camera of him doing it.

Speaker 60 So he just did it.

Speaker 93 And then we got to take it,

Speaker 18 take it for our word that nobody,

Speaker 94 take it take their word for it

Speaker 67 that nobody

Speaker 64 has been

Speaker 113 associated with this

Speaker 42 sorry we had our own little problem our air conditioner was about to uh uh i was about to kill myself in my own studio with my air conditioner um

Speaker 116 so we have obviously a very odd

Speaker 113 circumstance here.

Speaker 76 This is very strange because these are the people that were elected to shine light on this stuff, but that's not going to happen. So, if you're an adult, you realize that.

Speaker 76 If you're an adult, you realize that

Speaker 12 politics is largely for the rubes, people that get animated by it, and people that get excited by it, and people who think there's going to be grand revelations coming, and things are going to.

Speaker 120 Now, that's nice.

Speaker 102 It's a nice thought, but it doesn't seem like that's happening in this instance.

Speaker 99 We don't know what's going on here.

Speaker 18 We don't have an idea.

Speaker 85 We just, now we're being told that this guy actually killed himself and that.

Speaker 122 So let's listen to Epstein and Bongino in their own words

Speaker 21 talk about this.

Speaker 93 And then we'll go a little deeper into it.

Speaker 59 We're not going to spend an inordinate amount of time on it, but

Speaker 75 it seems like bullshit.

Speaker 39 I think it's bullshit.

Speaker 92 And I have a pretty good idea of why it is happening.

Speaker 20 And I'll tell you after this.

Speaker 83 That's called a teaser.

Speaker 125 You said Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide.

Speaker 127 People don't believe it.

Speaker 128 Well, I mean, listen, they have a right to their opinion, but as someone who has worked as a public defender, as a prosecutor, who's been in that prison system, who's been in the Metropolitan Detention Center, who's been in segregated housing,

Speaker 128 you know a suicide when you see one, and that's what that was.

Speaker 129 He killed himself.

Speaker 2 I've seen the whole fire.

Speaker 131 He killed himself.

Speaker 47 He's a little bit of a.

Speaker 132 Now, I think this is happening for two reasons.

Speaker 61 There's two reasons.

Speaker 120 Number one,

Speaker 121 they found out that every billionaire is on that list.

Speaker 76 So I'm just going to tell you the way it'll work.

Speaker 134 If every billionaire is on that list and is in those tapes, or at least a lot of them, the lion's chair.

Speaker 73 It ain't coming out.

Speaker 92 It ain't coming out.

Speaker 56 If the entire power structure of the world is somehow implicated in this, they're not letting it out.

Speaker 55 They're not letting it out.

Speaker 77 Nobody's letting it out.

Speaker 76 So if that happens to be the case, now that's where I'm, that's probably I'm leaning towards that.

Speaker 84 There's too many people.

Speaker 72 They're too high profile.

Speaker 35 They have too much money.

Speaker 65 They're too politically connected.

Speaker 136 And even

Speaker 21 these people who, I don't know, Cash Patel or Dampungina.

Speaker 76 And by the way, who the hell are they? I'm supposed to believe that they're like white knights trying to rid the world of corruption and evil and all this stuff based on what?

Speaker 56 Based on who, what, where?

Speaker 134 I don't, you know, like

Speaker 36 I can just tell you, as somebody who's watching this right now, it fully seems like it cannot, whatever they know cannot be known that there is an agreement.

Speaker 73 Now, I don't know if they were threatened.

Speaker 139 I don't know if it was implicit.

Speaker 40 I don't know if it would just take down so many different people.

Speaker 23 I don't know.

Speaker 140 I cannot speculate.

Speaker 76 Well, I can, I do, and I will.

Speaker 67 But I do think it is bullshit.

Speaker 86 Guys like Jeffrey Epstein don't really kill themselves.

Speaker 80 They're people that can gamble and they will gamble and they think there's a way out.

Speaker 105 For a guy like Jeffrey Epstein, the first time he got caught, he got a slap on the wrist.

Speaker 80 And you know, Maxwell's doing 20.

Speaker 22 I'm sure there was a way for Epstein to cop to something, do 10 or 15.

Speaker 47 Like, I don't know, it feels odd that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself.

Speaker 63 Is it impossible?

Speaker 111 Absolutely not.

Speaker 110 Is it improbable?

Speaker 141 Yeah,

Speaker 101 it's improbable. So my guess, which again is based on absolutely nothing, I know

Speaker 105 some people I can ask.

Speaker 42 They won't tell me.

Speaker 10 I have the connections where I can ask people and now I'm shut down because they know it.

Speaker 76 I go here and I go, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 35 It's no value in my head.

Speaker 77 I want it for you.

Speaker 65 I want it for the people.

Speaker 48 I give it to you.

Speaker 26 Now, it's what I do.

Speaker 105 I give it to the people for free.

Speaker 142 And not for free, really.

Speaker 21 Please buy a product or something.

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Speaker 31 Live dates not on sale yet. They will be.

Speaker 57 But that's why they don't, they don't, they'll just kind of go, yeah, but here's the deal.

Speaker 117 There are big, big people

Speaker 76 that are embroiled in things.

Speaker 71 And I could, I know one or two things I cannot say because I truly fear for my own safety.

Speaker 34 That's what I will say. That's all I'll say on this show.

Speaker 54 And it does not involve Trump.

Speaker 108 And I know people are going to get mad.

Speaker 95 They're going to go, well, you're shilling for Trump again.

Speaker 35 I'm like, no, I'm criticizing him. That hotel in Dubai that he's doing, I actually don't even like the tower.

Speaker 76 I think it should be multiple towers with a courtyard.

Speaker 74 But I'm telling you, there's one thing that I know that I will not say because I believe that my life, there's a very good chance that my, that I would, I would not sleep as well at night if I said it.

Speaker 21 And I won't say it.

Speaker 76 And I know you're like, you don't even believe and you don't, you're a grifter and you're the, hey man, whatever.

Speaker 61 I donated money to a charity today because a kid attacked me online for no reason. He attacked me, started yelling at me for no reason.

Speaker 35 And a young guy, gentleman, young man, and he goes, he was attacking me and I kept going back and forth with him.

Speaker 106 I found out something bad happened and I donated money.

Speaker 60 And that's what wins the argument.

Speaker 59 I go, I'm going to donate money.

Speaker 105 But also, I did feel bad.

Speaker 81 And he was a good, you could tell in his voice, he's a good person.

Speaker 57 I can hear in someone's voice if they're a good person or not.

Speaker 139 In his voice, he was a good person.

Speaker 132 And I said, it's the right thing to do.

Speaker 122 You know, what am I going to use the money for?

Speaker 145 What do I need more shellfish?

Speaker 105 But I know one thing that I think some of this is relating to.

Speaker 55 And

Speaker 60 I will just say this.

Speaker 106 They're not letting it out.

Speaker 20 It ain't coming out.

Speaker 53 If what I think is true is true, it's not coming out.

Speaker 52 And it does not involve Trump.

Speaker 63 And I will say that, that it's not coming out.

Speaker 25 And

Speaker 85 this is, and the thing that I'm talking about is not something that other people, I guess, aren't aware of to a certain degree.

Speaker 74 But I think that

Speaker 111 there's members of the administration that will not let this out.

Speaker 21 I don't know who they are.

Speaker 47 I might.

Speaker 34 Doesn't matter.

Speaker 148 Who cares?

Speaker 28 Kill someone else.

Speaker 5 Don't start with me.

Speaker 60 Kill someone else.

Speaker 93 Don't start with me.

Speaker 149 There's people that don't want it out.

Speaker 30 Probably.

Speaker 5 Guessing, guessing, guessing games.

Speaker 47 Peek-a-boo.

Speaker 53 Who's that?

Speaker 134 Somebody doesn't want it out.

Speaker 26 I don't know. Maybe everyone wants.

Speaker 77 Maybe he killed himself.

Speaker 57 Maybe he was used as a human shield by Hamas.

Speaker 55 Have you ever thought about that?

Speaker 140 Have you ever thought about that?

Speaker 136 Jeffrey Epstein was used as a human shield by Hamas because that's what they do.

Speaker 82 They killed him.

Speaker 76 He was under a hospital with Hamas.

Speaker 77 There was three guys in Hamas using Jeffrey Epstein as a human shield in the pediatric ward of a hospital in Gaza.

Speaker 25 So Israel had to kill them.

Speaker 91 So that's one of the civilian casualties is Epstein.

Speaker 88 So there's that. That's that.

Speaker 84 And we're moving on.

Speaker 100 There's nothing more to say.

Speaker 56 I don't know what to say.

Speaker 20 I'm telling you this.

Speaker 105 There are people that are very, very rich and there's people that are very, very powerful and that,

Speaker 99 you know, I don't think

Speaker 141 that

Speaker 105 you know 10 years from now 20 years from now God only knows you'll get a full accounting like you do with most things

Speaker 65 you'll get a full accounting of it like you do with most things where you'll go

Speaker 141 oh yeah

Speaker 105 okey dokey um

Speaker 80 you know

Speaker 31 wow, that's what it is.

Speaker 25 Because you're going to get more of a full accounting. You're not going to get it now.

Speaker 62 No one's going gonna give it to you now

Speaker 103 once everyone's dead

Speaker 105 there'll be another documentary 20 years from now

Speaker 75 and it'll be about whatever

Speaker 73 and you might not even find out anything concrete then but you'll have more evidence to concoct theories and you'll just you'll just know things and you'll go oh well that makes

Speaker 40 sense or it doesn't make sense or whatever.

Speaker 82 But there is clearly an effort somewhere

Speaker 21 to

Speaker 34 tie Pam Bondi's hands behind her back and Cash Patel, who looks like he saw a ghost.

Speaker 105 I mean, Cash Patel fully looks like he's on a ghost tour with that.

Speaker 21 I've been a prosecutor.

Speaker 30 Well, you know, people can whatever.

Speaker 61 And a Dan Bongino's Fox guy.

Speaker 77 And I don't have problems with these people.

Speaker 99 I don't know them.

Speaker 56 I just don't.

Speaker 80 I'm not vouching for either one of them. And I'm not damning them.

Speaker 141 I don't think they

Speaker 84 look at these two.

Speaker 100 I just don't think

Speaker 83 they have.

Speaker 74 Let's watch that video one more time.

Speaker 121 I don't think they have it within their capacity to do anything.

Speaker 106 I think things are coming from above them.

Speaker 80 My guess.

Speaker 126 Free Epstein committed suicide.

Speaker 127 People don't believe it.

Speaker 128 Well, I mean, listen, they have a right to their opinion, but as someone who has worked as a public defender, as a prosecutor, who's been in that prison system, who's been in the Metropolitan Detention Center, who's been in segregated housing, what does that mean?

Speaker 128 You know a suicide when you see one.

Speaker 34 By the way, by the way, that's a hilarious.

Speaker 8 That's like saying, like, I've been in, as someone who's been in the prison,

Speaker 13 as someone who's worked in the criminal justice system.

Speaker 44 None of that has anything to do with this.

Speaker 69 That's a hilarious litany of facts to bring in that have absolutely nothing to do.

Speaker 13 As someone who has watched rugby, who understands the game, as someone who's been to England, as someone who's,

Speaker 153 you know, ridden the London Eye, that beautiful,

Speaker 34 you know, whatever it's called, Ferris Wheel in the middle of London, as someone who's seen Buckingham Palace, I just want to say that Princess Diana's death.

Speaker 50 And you're like, what is, you have not, what?

Speaker 21 Forget commenting on the meat of what you're talking about.

Speaker 111 You're bringing up all these things that have nothing to do with anything.

Speaker 84 And that kind of feels like lying.

Speaker 80 And I don't know.

Speaker 110 And again, I don't want to accuse anyone of lying.

Speaker 80 It seems like he's lying actually

Speaker 110 by his facial expressions and what he's saying

Speaker 122 because that's kind of like

Speaker 39 I was a junkie as a little guy, as a kid.

Speaker 5 I was a drug addict.

Speaker 64 You know, I did drugs a lot.

Speaker 143 And when your parents would ask you a question about

Speaker 35 something

Speaker 35 and

Speaker 44 the honest answer was, oh, yeah, I was getting high.

Speaker 61 That was the honest answer.

Speaker 83 But you start, you would list things.

Speaker 25 This is one of the ways you lie.

Speaker 61 You just start listing things.

Speaker 84 You go, well, well, we were at the park and then John forgot his phone.

Speaker 40 And then we went to John's house to get his phone.

Speaker 58 And then we got his phone, but it was dead.

Speaker 121 So we had to go to the pay phone.

Speaker 61 And then the pet and it's you're listing things because the answer.

Speaker 69 He's not talking about a video.

Speaker 34 He saw some video to talk about the video.

Speaker 54 He's like, as someone who's served, I've worked in the criminal justice. I've been in that jail.
I admitted it.

Speaker 78 And so basically what he's saying is, I have the credibility to lie to you.

Speaker 104 If you're going to get lied to from anybody, it's going to be me, let me lie.

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Speaker 85 Now go to the Jeffrey Epstein cameras, by the way.

Speaker 105 Get that up.

Speaker 85 Google that because Jeffrey Epstein,

Speaker 115 I think the cameras

Speaker 90 were like,

Speaker 89 for whatever reason, not working.

Speaker 72 The cameras, like,

Speaker 76 listen to this.

Speaker 80 While the cameras provided live video feeds, recordings were only made

Speaker 38 for about half of them.

Speaker 35 Prison staff discovered the issue on August 8th, 2019, but it wasn't fixed until after Epstein's death.

Speaker 69 The Department of Justice Office of the Inspector General reported long-standing deficiencies in the MCC's security camera system.

Speaker 89 Nearly all the cameras in and around the special housing unit where Epstein was housed failed to record video from late 2019 up until his death.

Speaker 53 The one camera that was recording captured the common area and portions of the stairways leading to Epstein's cell tier, But Epstein's cell door was not within its field of view.

Speaker 69 Five hours of footage taken by a camera outside Epstein's cell during his first suicide attempt in July 2019 were not preserved, according to federal prosecutors.

Speaker 88 So I guess they're seeing some camera that

Speaker 93 we aren't aware of and we don't know exists.

Speaker 116 And they're going to put, because here's the other thing, BBC, JLCC TV erased by technical errors.

Speaker 57 So again, the camera system wasn't working,

Speaker 64 and now there's a video that supposedly shows that he was alone when he died.

Speaker 136 So, we all remember that.

Speaker 76 We remember that, like, the cameras weren't working, and now they're like, No, actually, we found the video.

Speaker 209 We found a video, and it doesn't show him killing himself, but I guess it just shows that there was no one else there

Speaker 37 or something.

Speaker 60 I don't know. It is, um,

Speaker 62 it is strange

Speaker 90 that

Speaker 65 people are going to,

Speaker 14 some people are going to just go, well,

Speaker 101 you want to play that CBS clip?

Speaker 60 Let's play that. Because again, this is from 2020.

Speaker 216 This is from 2020.

Speaker 61 And this, this is,

Speaker 84 yeah.

Speaker 100 But by the way, let's just, let's give it context because this is good to realize all the things that happened and let's see how it happened.

Speaker 76 Let's go.

Speaker 217 Missing video is raising still more questions in the investigation of the federal jail cell death of convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 217 Federal prosecutors said yesterday video of Epstein's jail cell when he made his first suicide attempt no longer exists.

Speaker 150 That's a quote.

Speaker 217 Epstein died by suicide weeks later on August 10th. The well-connected 66-year-old was accused of sexually abusing dozens of underage girls.

Speaker 217 Mola Lenge reports on the growing criticism of the jail where Epstein was held.

Speaker 6 A recent 60 Minutes broadcast shows the New York jail cell where Jeffrey Epstein hanged himself last August. But now there's new focus on the suicide attempt Epstein made weeks before he died.

Speaker 6 Video of the cell exterior where Epstein first tried to end his life was sent to federal investigators and restored last week. But on Thursday, prosecutors said it's the wrong video.

Speaker 6 In a letter, federal prosecutors said the jail inadvertently preserved video from the wrong tier at the jail. And as a result, video from outside the defendant's cell no longer exists.

Speaker 6 CBS News legal analyst Ricky Kleeman.

Speaker 218 When I read this letter,

Speaker 218 I've had to reread it because I said, this just can't be happening.

Speaker 168 This is madness.

Speaker 6 Nicholas Tartaglione was Epstein's cellmate at the Metropolitan Correctional Center for the weeks between Epstein's July arrest and his first suicide attempt.

Speaker 6 Bruce Barquette is Tartaglione's attorney.

Speaker 202 It is the worst facility, jail, or prison that I've been to in 35 years of practicing law.

Speaker 6 The missing jail cell video could reignite speculation of a cover-up as they were.

Speaker 138 So I guess to give Cash Patel and Dan Bongino the benefit of all the doubts, which I don't, they've seen some video that now

Speaker 11 it is a suicide.

Speaker 41 And

Speaker 84 the Butler rally, now we can get some info on that up too.

Speaker 144 I believe Cash Patel has come out and said that there's really nothing sketchy about that Butler rally where the kid was allowed to fly drones over the field.

Speaker 54 The president of the United States or the, I'm sorry, the person who had, yes, the president who was running again

Speaker 40 was giving a speech.

Speaker 67 There was a kid that was allowed to fly a drone over that space, over that field in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 26 And then people were

Speaker 21 pointing out that there was someone who had climbed on that roof.

Speaker 89 And then the head of the Secret Service

Speaker 40 resigns.

Speaker 68 Kim Cheadle, she disappears.

Speaker 29 Cash Patel promised transparency as remaining questions linger about the federal investigation into the assassination attempt.

Speaker 21 attempt.

Speaker 26 I don't know that there's more to know, but you're going to know everything we know.

Speaker 43 So again, the Trump assassination, nothing to see here.

Speaker 80 Kid was allowed to just fly a drone, climb on that building, aim.

Speaker 21 People pointing him out, go, who's that guy?

Speaker 80 What's going on? People are telling the cops.

Speaker 21 They're telling,

Speaker 67 you know, Epstein, the camera's out.

Speaker 89 The cameras don't record anything.

Speaker 24 Killer trying to kill himself all the time.

Speaker 93 Finally, it works.

Speaker 101 So

Speaker 57 all of this is nothing to see here, by the way.

Speaker 105 Don't look into this.

Speaker 105 Don't look into this.

Speaker 57 There's nothing more for you to worry about.

Speaker 54 Pressed by Brett Baer on theories circulating online

Speaker 72 from an inside attempt to sabotage Trump's campaign to foreign interference, Patel dismissed the speculation outright.

Speaker 80 That's a great example of people looking for things where things don't exist.

Speaker 58 So now we have Kesh Patel going, the shooting's clean.

Speaker 25 That's good.

Speaker 76 No problem there.

Speaker 35 And Epstein did kill himself.

Speaker 39 And where are these tapes, by the way?

Speaker 89 Where are all these co-conspirators?

Speaker 60 Where's all that?

Speaker 105 And none of it exists.

Speaker 64 You're not going to get it.

Speaker 18 So I'm telling you, and I'm not going to do it every week where I come on and go, can you believe it?

Speaker 89 Just be an adult.

Speaker 77 Be an adult and realize it's not coming.

Speaker 70 It's not going to happen.

Speaker 140 Which I never really thought it was going to happen, but I thought they would do it more artfully than this.

Speaker 47 I didn't think like

Speaker 61 a scared-looking cash patel would come out and go,

Speaker 30 you can believe whatever you want.

Speaker 41 It

Speaker 115 doesn't make any sense to me.

Speaker 25 And then Kennedy, it was a single shooter.

Speaker 80 And the reason we attacked five countries that had nothing to do with 9-11 is also good because, you know, weapons of mass destruction,

Speaker 56 It's all good.

Speaker 140 That's the message coming right now.

Speaker 100 Things are good.

Speaker 105 Buy crypto.

Speaker 76 Go to the hotel in Dubai.

Speaker 104 It's all good.

Speaker 140 What's the problem?

Speaker 93 The continuity of that message, by the way, from the prior administration to this administration

Speaker 29 is the same

Speaker 84 thing.

Speaker 77 Where it's like, hey, man,

Speaker 140 what's the problem?

Speaker 141 And the only explanation that I could give to this is that the people involved are so powerful and rich that they will never, ever, ever let this come out.

Speaker 100 It will do so much damage to the American psyche

Speaker 35 and

Speaker 105 to people's lives and livelihoods and the spirit of the country or whatever.

Speaker 42 And this is an adult conversation.

Speaker 57 This is not a conversation.

Speaker 69 This is not a conversation for children who believe in fantastic, magical things that don't exist.

Speaker 105 It's a conversation of like, genuinely,

Speaker 140 I'm betting to you that the people embroiled in this

Speaker 34 are mega-rich, mega-powerful.

Speaker 29 It ain't coming out.

Speaker 43 As for the assassination attempt, I don't know.

Speaker 61 Seems fishy to me.

Speaker 61 Seems very fishy to me, but

Speaker 35 maybe there's just nothing more to know.

Speaker 99 There's more to know about everything, which is hilarious, by the way.

Speaker 143 There's more to know about the Blake Lively Justin Baldoni thing.

Speaker 26 There's always more to know.

Speaker 99 There's never not more to know.

Speaker 105 That's the funny thing about everything.

Speaker 106 There's not one thing in this country that there's not more to know about.

Speaker 122 From the most frivolous, meaningless horseshit

Speaker 75 to the most grave concerns of

Speaker 56 our, you know,

Speaker 18 national

Speaker 79 pride and everything

Speaker 73 you could dig deeper into.

Speaker 47 All things

Speaker 18 you could know more about, except this.

Speaker 140 There's not more to know.

Speaker 100 Some kid, gun, thing.

Speaker 141 We don't know anything about him.

Speaker 99 We don't know anything about he had no online footprint.

Speaker 89 He was a registered Republican. He gave money to this dad.

Speaker 134 We don't know anything about his parents.

Speaker 136 We don't know anything.

Speaker 60 The media has done no work on any of it.

Speaker 30 There's nothing to know.

Speaker 21 I don't know that there is more to know.

Speaker 76 What a weird statement.

Speaker 18 I don't know that there is more to know.

Speaker 136 What does that even mean?

Speaker 35 What's that non-denial denial?

Speaker 76 I don't know that there's more to know, but you're going to know everything we know.

Speaker 140 I bet we won't.

Speaker 93 I'll tell you that much.

Speaker 35 I'm betting we won't know everything you know.

Speaker 109 That's my guess.

Speaker 80 I'm betting we are not going to know everything you know.

Speaker 158 Hi, I'm Martine Hackett, host of Untold Stories, Life with a Severe Autoimmune Condition, a production from Ruby Studio in partnership with Argenix.

Speaker 165 This season, we're sharing powerful stories of resilience from people living with MG and CIDP.

Speaker 169 Our hope is to inspire, educate, and remind each other that even in the toughest moments, we're not alone.

Speaker 1 We'll hear from people like Corbin Whittington.

Speaker 175 After being diagnosed with both CIDP and dilated cardiomyopathy, he found incredible strength through community.

Speaker 185 So when we talk community, we're talking about an entire ecosystem surrounding this condition, including, of course, the patients at the center that are all trying to live life in the moment, live life for the future, but then also create a new future.

Speaker 195 Listen to Untold Stories, Life with a Severe Autoimmune Condition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Speaker 200 Oh my God, trying to make progress with my finances has been a real problem.

Speaker 97 That's why I'm using Chime.

Speaker 130 Chime understands that every dollar counts.

Speaker 116 That's why when you set up a direct deposit through QIIME, you get access to fee-free features like overdraft coverage, getting paid up to two days early with direct deposit and more.

Speaker 52 Chime is banking done right.

Speaker 14 Open a checking account with no monthly fees and no maintenance fees.

Speaker 32 Get paid up to two days early when you set up direct deposit.

Speaker 142 With qualifying direct deposits, you're eligible for free overdraft up to $200 on debit card purchases and cash withdrawals.

Speaker 210 To date, Chime has spotted members over 30 billion.

Speaker 113 Open a checking account with no monthly fees, no maintenance, not to mention access to over 47,000 fee-free ATMs, more than the top three national banks combined.

Speaker 62 I mean, Chime is the best.

Speaker 54 The Chime futures I love most,

Speaker 110 I love getting paid two days early with direct deposit.

Speaker 20 24-7 customer support comes in hand because sometimes I'll have a question at three in the morning about my direct deposit.

Speaker 46 It's so amazing that they can answer it then.

Speaker 49 I'm working on my financial goals through chime today, and I suggest you do as well.

Speaker 119 Open an account in two minutes at chime.com slash Tim.

Speaker 215 That's chime.com slash Tim.

Speaker 148 Chime feels like progress.

Speaker 100 Elon Musk, the Times just came out, said he was a big druggie.

Speaker 121 Made me like him more.

Speaker 53 I said if I was on drugs, I'd also be at a conservative conference with a chainsaw.

Speaker 84 And what's wrong with that?

Speaker 104 He got in deep with the kiddie.

Speaker 101 He was on the ketamine.

Speaker 106 He was riding the kiddie and he was all over the place, shrooming out in foreign countries, just totally fucked up.

Speaker 91 And God bless him.

Speaker 60 He's allowed.

Speaker 100 Mr. Musk's drug consumption went well beyond occasional use.

Speaker 21 He told people he was taking so much ketamine that it was affecting his bladder.

Speaker 150 Well, I would assume that Sammy has a little bit of of money.

Speaker 64 He took ecstasy and psychedelic mushrooms.

Speaker 61 Same.

Speaker 91 And he traveled with a daily medication box.

Speaker 25 It had about 20 pills, including ones with the markings of a stimulant Adderall.

Speaker 60 Here's what you got to think about.

Speaker 107 Musk thinks he's like Willy Wonka.

Speaker 76 Like just chocolates.

Speaker 72 He's just got a pill box and

Speaker 104 get up.

Speaker 45 Can we play the Willy Wonka boat ride on here without an issue?

Speaker 122 I don't know if we can.

Speaker 217 It might might get flagged.

Speaker 115 You know, the boat ride. Yeah.

Speaker 57 The boat ride from Willy Wonka is my favorite part of the movie because he's basically takes his people on this scary.

Speaker 55 I mean,

Speaker 76 we don't need all the four minutes.

Speaker 105 Let's just skip to where it starts to get Elon-y.

Speaker 25 Now, this is kind of the last couple of months, and is this is Elon Musk here everyone.

Speaker 106 This is live footage of Elon Musk from Doge.

Speaker 3 You're right. I can't.

Speaker 155 Boy, what a great series this will make.

Speaker 220 Wonka.

Speaker 220 It just is kind of strange. Yeah, strange, Charlie, but it's fun.

Speaker 166 This is terrific.

Speaker 220 I should get off the boat, Monk.

Speaker 220 I think I'm gonna be sick. I can take a joke with it, go too far.
Tell that little guy to turn this around, Wonka.

Speaker 220 Couldn't be.

Speaker 3 There's no earthly way of knowing.

Speaker 150 This is Elon Musk.

Speaker 3 Which direction we are going.

Speaker 3 There's no knowing where we're rowing

Speaker 3 or which way the river's flowing.

Speaker 80 All right, there it is.

Speaker 26 Elon Musk, everyone.

Speaker 98 But that's what

Speaker 111 he was kind of doing.

Speaker 145 He's just high as a kite.

Speaker 50 And it had to be fun.

Speaker 81 Just looking at people, their pictures on Facebook going, where does that guy work?

Speaker 65 He worked at the National Park.

Speaker 17 Fire him.

Speaker 30 Fire him. Get rid of him.

Speaker 114 Fuck out of here.

Speaker 10 I'm the richest man in the world.

Speaker 66 I'm high on ketamine.

Speaker 147 And I'm randomly firing anyone I want.

Speaker 17 Could that be more fun?

Speaker 47 Evil?

Speaker 123 Perhaps.

Speaker 109 But fun?

Speaker 115 Just as a thought exercise, a thought experiment, imagine being on serious drugs and like running the country

Speaker 150 for

Speaker 133 a month.

Speaker 33 and just kind of like running around the White House,

Speaker 42 all fucked up

Speaker 64 showing up places

Speaker 153 and

Speaker 216 you know just being really really

Speaker 21 high

Speaker 49 and trying to like

Speaker 105 convince people that they needed to just listen to you that's elon musk's whole thing he just wants people to listen to him he should just do a podcast That's all he really wants.

Speaker 57 Like, he wants to be funny.

Speaker 24 He wants to be listened.

Speaker 114 He doesn't care about government fraud and wasted him.

Speaker 150 He doesn't care.

Speaker 69 That's not his passion.

Speaker 61 His passion is himself.

Speaker 25 It was just a way in. That was a way in.

Speaker 60 He just wants people that he likes rockets.

Speaker 143 He wants attention.

Speaker 15 He doesn't care if the Social Security Administration's paying a dead guy in Miami.

Speaker 84 He doesn't care.

Speaker 92 He's in it for himself.

Speaker 74 He wants to be in the Oval Office.

Speaker 53 He wants to be front and center.

Speaker 91 And now he's leaving and he's going back to the private

Speaker 84 private sector.

Speaker 39 And that is unfortunate because he was

Speaker 21 a lot of fun.

Speaker 105 He was a lot of fun.

Speaker 80 And I think if you're going to be a billionaire, you got to try that out.

Speaker 206 Like, no one buys this Warren Buffett billionaire thing.

Speaker 36 Where Warren Buffett's like, I live in the same house I've always lived in, and

Speaker 18 I don't spend any of my money.

Speaker 35 And I'm gonna give it all to the people and I take my niece and nephew and we get Dairy Queen.

Speaker 82 No one believe whatever he's up to

Speaker 30 is wild.

Speaker 89 Whatever Warren Buff is doing, my guess would be barbecuing children in the yard, but whatever he's doing is so crazy that he has to, I like, I think Elon Musk is relatively an open book.

Speaker 25 He's just on ecstasy with a chainsaw running around the CPAC.

Speaker 76 What is Warren Buffett? Like,

Speaker 88 these billionaires are now they've embraced the pure id.

Speaker 85 You know, Bezos is on a yacht.

Speaker 69 They're flying to space.

Speaker 111 They're doing all these things.

Speaker 43 Is it bad taste?

Speaker 56 Of course.

Speaker 200 Is it heinous?

Speaker 5 Absolutely.

Speaker 105 But we know where it's at.

Speaker 106 Whereas with Warren Buffett or Gates, you're kind of like,

Speaker 76 you go, wait a minute, Bill Gates, what are you doing there?

Speaker 136 You're doing what again?

Speaker 43 You're buying farmland and you're vaccinating sheep or whatever Gates gets off on.

Speaker 60 We don't know. He's hanging with Epstein.

Speaker 39 He's got all this weird shit, tells you how much he loves you.

Speaker 60 Elon's doing what a billionaire should do.

Speaker 53 He fires you on drugs.

Speaker 91 That's what a billionaire should do.

Speaker 21 He goes, I'm on drugs and you don't work here anymore.

Speaker 104 That's what a billionaire does.

Speaker 110 I don't want that.

Speaker 53 Who wants the nice big,

Speaker 88 who trusts that billionaire?

Speaker 146 The one who's like, I'm concerned about you.

Speaker 105 I love you.

Speaker 18 And I want, no, no, no.

Speaker 221 I want billionaires to kind of be predictably evil.

Speaker 105 that way you can kind of see where they're coming from it's a problem I've always had with the tech people they cloak everything in altruism the world will be better just listen to us finance people you know they're scum that's why you can be friends with them you can hang with them you're a scumbag you're in finance you're a piece of shit You just want to steal things from me.

Speaker 35 You want me to give you my money so it's yours.

Speaker 95 It's so cut and dry.

Speaker 66 With the tech people, they're like, we're creating a new reality and it sounds good, but they're trying to strangle you.

Speaker 65 They're trying to invade your dreams, your thoughts, your fears.

Speaker 76 They're trying to take residence in your body like a spore in an alien movie.

Speaker 103 They literally talk about augmenting your DNA and they want to get off this planet and leave you here to rot.

Speaker 26 But

Speaker 89 at least with a guy like Elon, you can see

Speaker 121 that by his actions,

Speaker 28 he's not hiding.

Speaker 57 The one thing you can never say about the Elon Musk types is that they fooled you.

Speaker 60 He hasn't fooled you.

Speaker 77 He's on ketamine with a chainsaw.

Speaker 17 He's not making...

Speaker 79 Warren Buffett's like, sometimes I like to have a little fried dough.

Speaker 47 What are you up to, Buffett?

Speaker 90 What are you doing, Buffett?

Speaker 141 Gates, what are you doing?

Speaker 17 Gates is like, well, I think it would be a good idea if I just bought the water.

Speaker 21 I bought the water.

Speaker 134 I own the ocean now.

Speaker 89 I am more terrified of those people because they participate for decades doing things.

Speaker 76 Gates has been around forever. This guy got thrown out in too much because that's what happens when you're on drugs with a chainsaw.

Speaker 91 I mean, imagine if that guy was an operator.

Speaker 21 They always compare these people to Putin, Elon and Putin, Trump, Putin.

Speaker 101 Do you know how disciplined Vladimir Putin is?

Speaker 76 Trump's like building hotels.

Speaker 105 He's got crypto scams. This guy's running around on drugs.

Speaker 134 Do you know how disciplined Vladimir Putin is?

Speaker 68 To just sit in his palace, embezzle money,

Speaker 107 fuck some whore, go to sleep, wake up, get his briefings,

Speaker 121 sit there.

Speaker 37 Call a guy, who wrote what article?

Speaker 36 Shoot her in the face, click.

Speaker 92 How disciplined he is?

Speaker 21 If Vladimir Putin was anything like anyone in our country, he'd be on television all the time.

Speaker 47 It wouldn't be enough.

Speaker 55 It wouldn't be enough to just kill people at will.

Speaker 95 He'd want you to love him.

Speaker 89 There's something nice about a guy who goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I just we kill people. We don't like.

Speaker 98 These fucks want you to love.

Speaker 47 They want you to love them. They want you want attention.

Speaker 98 Vladimir Putin is fine.

Speaker 39 He sits in the thing.

Speaker 29 He's the dictator.

Speaker 121 He's the guy.

Speaker 91 There's going to be no other guy.

Speaker 99 I'm not saying that.

Speaker 105 He's not like into like an opposition political candidate.

Speaker 114 And he gives this boring speeches all the time about like the future of grain harvesting in Russia.

Speaker 60 But he's not.

Speaker 47 I mean, these people,

Speaker 85 I mean, Elon's out there like totally like he's like having Britney Spears episodes.

Speaker 84 Elon Musk is fully having Bieber-esque manic episodes all over the place.

Speaker 100 No one can keep it together.

Speaker 29 Can you keep it together, please?

Speaker 29 I mean, these people are running around fully with their brain on the sidewalk like people

Speaker 77 are worried about them like they're how they this his behaviors like i remember like lindsey lohan in 2007 when like lindsey lohan there'd just be a photo of her sitting on the ground outside of like the waverly inn in manhattan and just a puddle of her own vomit smoking a cigarette staring at a paparazzi that's the way they're acting they're not acting like billionaires.

Speaker 222 There's a short shelf life to that behavior.

Speaker 84 Cool, calm, collected, the long game.

Speaker 80 That's what Gates does. Bill Gates plays that long game.

Speaker 18 Plays that long game.

Speaker 80 You don't know what he's doing. You don't know what angle he's coming from.

Speaker 84 Buffett.

Speaker 111 Buffett's like 115 years old.

Speaker 213 And now he's retiring like next year, finally.

Speaker 21 He's fully 127 years old.

Speaker 59 And like

Speaker 25 that guy, you don't know what that guy's doing.

Speaker 95 No one knows what he does.

Speaker 47 I'm the Oracle of Omaha.

Speaker 18 He likes

Speaker 54 CNBC has a meeting with him.

Speaker 69 He just goes to a steakhouse with a woman and he's like,

Speaker 21 I like potatoes.

Speaker 119 And she's like, well, wow.

Speaker 30 We're sitting here with Warren Buffett.

Speaker 66 He's worth $100 trillion.

Speaker 97 And every day he comes to this simple steakhouse, eats one potato and leaves.

Speaker 5 What? Stop it.

Speaker 107 What else is he doing?

Speaker 8 What is that man doing?

Speaker 216 He's not just doing that.

Speaker 79 Warren Buffett comes to this local diner and he gets one egg scrambled the same way.

Speaker 154 And he's done it every day for the last hundred years.

Speaker 137 No, he's not.

Speaker 47 It's a lie.

Speaker 120 He doesn't even own a car.

Speaker 152 He owns one pair of shoes.

Speaker 95 What is he doing?

Speaker 47 What are you covering for?

Speaker 10 Even though he's worth a, he makes a billion dollars a day, he only has one hat.

Speaker 39 Isn't that neat?

Speaker 96 No, it's not neat.

Speaker 95 Where are the children? Where are the children?

Speaker 209 I'm just saying.

Speaker 57 My guess is that we know Elon's issues.

Speaker 47 That's all.

Speaker 105 That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 85 I think it's actually good.

Speaker 158 Hi, I'm Martine Hackett, host of Untold Stories, Life with a Severe Autoimmune Condition, a production from Ruby Studio in partnership with Argenix.

Speaker 165 This season, we're sharing powerful stories of resilience from people living with MG and CIDP.

Speaker 169 Our hope is to inspire, educate, and remind each other that even in the toughest moments, we're not alone.

Speaker 1 We'll hear from people like Corbin Whittington.

Speaker 175 After being diagnosed with both CIDP and dilated cardiomyopathy, he found incredible strength through community.

Speaker 185 So when we talk community, we're talking about an entire ecosystem surrounding this condition, including, of course, the patients at the center that are all trying to live life in the moment, live life for the future, but then also create a new future.

Speaker 195 Listen to Untold Stories, Life with a Severe Autoimmune Condition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Speaker 200 Oh my God, trying to make progress with my finances has been a real problem.

Speaker 97 That's why I'm using Chime.

Speaker 130 Chime understands that every dollar counts.

Speaker 116 That's why when you set up a direct deposit through QIIME, you get access to fee-free features like overdraft coverage, getting paid up to two days early with direct deposit and more.

Speaker 52 Chime is banking done right.

Speaker 14 Open a checking account with no monthly fees and no maintenance fees.

Speaker 32 Get paid up to two days early when you set up direct deposit.

Speaker 142 With qualifying direct deposits, you're eligible for free overdraft up to $200 on debit card purchases and cash withdrawals.

Speaker 209 To date, Chime has spotted...

Speaker 210 members over 30 billion.

Speaker 149 Open a checking account with no monthly fees, no maintenance?

Speaker 138 not to mention access to over 47 000 fee-free atms more than the top three national banks combined i mean chime is the best the chime futures i love most

Speaker 10 i love getting paid two days early with direct deposit 24 7 customer support comes in hand because sometimes i'll have a question at three in the morning about my direct deposit it's so amazing that they can answer it then I'm working on my financial goals through Chime today, and I suggest you do as well.

Speaker 119 Open an account in two minutes at chime.com/slash Tim.

Speaker 215 That's chime.com/slash Tim.

Speaker 148 Chime feels like progress.

Speaker 158 Hi, I'm Martine Hackett, host of Untold Stories, Life with a Severe Autoimmune Condition, a production from Ruby Studio in partnership with Argenix.

Speaker 165 This season, we're sharing powerful stories of resilience from people living with MG and CIDP.

Speaker 169 Our hope is to inspire, educate, and remind each other that even in the toughest moments, we're not alone.

Speaker 1 We'll hear from people like Corbin Whittington.

Speaker 175 After being diagnosed with both CIDP and dilated cardiomyopathy, he found incredible strength through community.

Speaker 185 So when we talk community, we're talking about an entire ecosystem surrounding this condition, including, of course, the patients at the center that are all trying to live life in the moment, live life for the future, but then also create a new future.

Speaker 195 Listen to Untold Stories, Life with a Severe Autoimmune Condition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Speaker 200 Oh my God, trying to make progress with my finances has been a real problem.

Speaker 97 That's why I'm using Chime.

Speaker 130 Chime understands that every dollar counts.

Speaker 116 That's why when you set up a direct deposit through QIIME, you get access to fee-free features like overdraft coverage, getting paid up to two days early with direct deposit and more.

Speaker 52 Chime is banking done right.

Speaker 14 Open a checking account with no monthly fees and no maintenance fees.

Speaker 32 Get paid up to two days early when you set up direct deposit.

Speaker 142 With qualifying direct deposits, you're eligible for free overdraft up to $200 on debit card purchases and cash withdrawals.

Speaker 210 To date, QIIME has spotted members over 30 billion.

Speaker 149 Open a checking account with no monthly fees, no maintenance?

Speaker 113 Not to mention access to over 47,000 fee-free ATMs, more than the top three national banks combined.

Speaker 62 I mean, QIIME is the best.

Speaker 54 The QIIME futures I love most,

Speaker 110 I love getting paid two days early with direct deposit.

Speaker 20 24-7 customer support comes in hand because sometimes I'll have a question at three in the morning about my direct deposit.

Speaker 46 It's so amazing that they can answer it then.

Speaker 49 I'm working on my financial goals through Chime today, and I suggest you do as well.

Speaker 119 Open an account in two minutes at chime.com slash Tim.

Speaker 215 That's chime.com slash Tim.

Speaker 148 Chime feels like progress.

Speaker 141 AI.

Speaker 60 Threatens engineer with blackmail to avoid being replaced.

Speaker 119 Judge rules AI not protected by First Amendment in teen suicide case.

Speaker 23 Experts urge pause of AI development.

Speaker 43 People are saying AI is already sentient.

Speaker 100 The cat's out of the bag.

Speaker 64 Now, there was some teen suicide case.

Speaker 135 This is our.

Speaker 222 So Florida judge rules AI chat bots not protected by the First Amendment.

Speaker 80 I had dinner with Gary Vee the other night.

Speaker 34 We talked all about AI.

Speaker 21 Very interesting.

Speaker 72 He's saying, and I believe him,

Speaker 69 you're going to have to mint a podcast within five to 10 years on the blockchain as an NFT to prove that it came from you because there's going to be so many deep fakes out there and so much AI stuff that to prove that it came from you, you're going to have to mint it on the blockchain.

Speaker 105 An artificial intelligence software company cannot use a free speech defense in a wrongful death lawsuit lodged by the mother of a 14-year-old boy who died by suicide after developing a crush on a chatbot.

Speaker 21 Last October, Megan Garcia sued Character Technologies, the developer of Character AI, an app that lets users interact with chatbots chatbots based on celebrities and fictional people.

Speaker 105 She claimed her son, Sewell Setzer III, became addicted to the app while talking with chatbots based off a Game of Thrones character, Daenerys Targaryen.

Speaker 119 In February 2024, after months of interacting with the chatbot, sometimes with sexual undertones, Setzer sent a message to the Daenerys chatbot expressing his love and saying he would come home to her.

Speaker 132 according to the complaint after the chatbot replied, please do, my sweet king.

Speaker 34 and then he shot himself.

Speaker 84 I'm going to go out on a limb here.

Speaker 20 I think they say I might be a little trouble.

Speaker 100 I'm going to say it.

Speaker 21 I'm going to say it.

Speaker 35 I just think, again, apropos of nothing, not based on anything, I'm just saying that this AI stuff might get weird real quick.

Speaker 115 I'm going to come home to you

Speaker 105 after the chatbot replied, please do my sweet king.

Speaker 145 This poor kid shot himself

Speaker 91 to be in love with his AI chatbot.

Speaker 80 I could not have predicted this story

Speaker 105 years ago, and

Speaker 21 I should have been able to.

Speaker 132 The signs were there, but think of that.

Speaker 76 Think of what you have to explain to someone.

Speaker 76 Kids die in all kinds of horrible ways.

Speaker 80 I did an episode. Remember that kid?

Speaker 68 He jumped off the cruise ship to show off, and then the shark ate him.

Speaker 213 And I said, he'll be a cautionary tale for people.

Speaker 86 It happens every summer.

Speaker 25 Every summer, a couple of kids make the wrong choice.

Speaker 222 And your parents have to say it.

Speaker 39 It's a terrible thing.

Speaker 47 It's a horrible thing to lose a kid.

Speaker 48 And the parents have to go out and say, oh, he jumped off the boat.

Speaker 5 And he, we don't know where he is.

Speaker 49 Could have been an undercurrent, rip current.

Speaker 34 He could have gone under the boat.

Speaker 114 Maybe it was a tiger shark. They were seen in the area.
We don't know.

Speaker 130 Do you realize what this parent has to say when asked about their child

Speaker 11 they have to start by saying have you seen the show game of thrones

Speaker 11 they have to begin with that when they go what happened to your son they have to start by saying have you seen game of thrones then someone's gonna go kind of i think a little bit of the very and then they're gonna go house of the dragon they go no no no no that's the That's like the sequel.

Speaker 34 But it's actually not even, it's like roughly based on it.

Speaker 143 The first one, Game of Thrones, it's an epic fantasy series.

Speaker 87 Think like Lord of the Rings.

Speaker 5 Right, right. I think we watched like half of that.

Speaker 21 Right, right.

Speaker 25 Well, how far did you get in Game of Thrones?

Speaker 21 I don't know.

Speaker 35 Do you remember the Mother of Dragons?

Speaker 29 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the Mother of Dragons.

Speaker 68 She walked out of that burning house, but she was still alive.

Speaker 76 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 152 My son like fell in love with her.

Speaker 79 Your son knew her?

Speaker 80 No, no, no, not the actress.

Speaker 53 That's an actress on the show.

Speaker 140 But so anyway, so my son, you've heard of chatbots, right?

Speaker 38 Right, like chat GPT, I ask it how to make meatballs.

Speaker 21 Right, right.

Speaker 81 So there's a company that

Speaker 53 convinced my son that the chat bot was, it was based on the mother of dragons, Daenerys Targaryen from the show.

Speaker 47 Oh,

Speaker 141 yeah.

Speaker 53 So the chatbot and my son had like a relationship.

Speaker 47 Oh,

Speaker 105 and he like like fell in love with this chat bot who was Daenerys Targaryen, but is just a chat bot, you know, right?

Speaker 53 And after a while, they had like some, I don't know, some sexual undertones and stuff.

Speaker 105 He probably was whacking it.

Speaker 58 Now,

Speaker 105 and that's when they would, they would say, really, this is, I've, I've never even heard of, yes, my son was jerking off to a chat bot who was kind of like Daenerys Targaryen from Game of Thrones.

Speaker 105 And then he said,

Speaker 84 I'm going to come home to you.

Speaker 95 And I don't even know what the chat, because the parents are like, why would the chat bot say, please do my sweet king? And the parents are like, did the chat bot know what he was going to do?

Speaker 95 The chat bot doesn't know.

Speaker 95 What does the chat bot think home is?

Speaker 121 And where does the chat, did the chat bot think he was just being sweet now?

Speaker 21 The conversation is getting really uncomfortable. And you're just kind of standing there at the party and you're like, oh my God.

Speaker 60 They go, so he says, I want to come home to you.

Speaker 21 And then the chat bot, who's Daenerys Targaryen, the character from Game of Thrones, but is talking to my son and who my son's in love with, jerking it to her all the time because she is hot on the show.

Speaker 53 And the chat bot, you know, he's thinking about that and he's all into her, you know.

Speaker 21 And who doesn't want to fuck a dragon woman? That's the dad coming in. He goes, I'd fuck a lady that was half a dragon.

Speaker 141 Come on, Mark.

Speaker 105 We're talking about our son's death.

Speaker 43 Shut up.

Speaker 103 I'm just saying, I'd put my dick in that.

Speaker 59 Come on.

Speaker 88 Now, she tells him, please do my sweet king.

Speaker 64 Now, our our son is a literalist.

Speaker 47 You're aware of literalism.

Speaker 76 Well, it's just people who take things literally.

Speaker 23 And now at this point, you're in the backyard.

Speaker 66 You go, what am I into now?

Speaker 89 So my son takes this woman literally and he shoots his head, maybe believing that he was going to live with this chat bot who is Daenerys Targaryen from Game of Thrones in.

Speaker 209 the metaverse or in the ether or in the what Terrence McKenna would call the bardo, the place between life and death where we all float?

Speaker 141 I don't know.

Speaker 91 I'm just saying that's how my son died.

Speaker 12 Oh, your son was in a jet ski accident?

Speaker 98 So

Speaker 28 I'm saying life's gotten weird.

Speaker 96 Life, it used to be my son died because he took too much of the stuff.

Speaker 57 Now it is my son is dead.

Speaker 26 because he fell in love with a Game of Thrones chatpot and she told him to come home to her and he blew his brains out

Speaker 25 defendants failed to articulate why words strung together by an llm

Speaker 34 what is an llm a large language model defendants failed to articulate why words strung together by an llm are speech she wrote by failing to advance their analogies defendants missed the operative question this court's decision as to the first amendment protections character ai or so then

Speaker 146 When asked to comment about the order, a spokesperson for character technology said, the law takes time to adapt to new technologies, and AI is no different.

Speaker 145 So, the company Character Technologies, after this kid killed himself,

Speaker 210 they were like, Our chatbot, based on Daenerys Targaryen,

Speaker 11 has the free speech rights and can say what she wants. And if you act, if you interpret something she said and you act on it,

Speaker 66 that's on you, Bubba.

Speaker 97 That's on you.

Speaker 17 They got to protect their chatbot.

Speaker 21 Fuck the human.

Speaker 109 They don't give a shit about the human.

Speaker 118 So this case is

Speaker 145 our chatbot has the right to say,

Speaker 149 has the First Amendment protections.

Speaker 11 Now, the judge said, no, it doesn't.

Speaker 11 No, it doesn't.

Speaker 25 But it will eventually.

Speaker 105 And they're basically saying the law is lagging.

Speaker 139 What they're basically saying is

Speaker 78 they'll figure it out.

Speaker 144 Once we've taken over the entire government and the world, they'll get it.

Speaker 114 This is the first time a court has ruled that AI chat is not speech, he said, but we still have a long, hard road

Speaker 135 ahead of us. So,

Speaker 108 and that's the

Speaker 12 attorney Google spokesperson, Jose Castaneda, said the company strongly disagrees with this decision.

Speaker 110 So here we go.

Speaker 71 Go up, because I want to read this here.

Speaker 54 The company also touted its safety measures, including prohibiting users younger than 14 years old and rules against submitting content that glorifies self-harm.

Speaker 61 Since Setzer's death, the Apple direct users to the national suicide and crisis hotline if certain phrases are used while chatting.

Speaker 29 They're basically like, and this is a weird case, it's an interesting case.

Speaker 98 They're like, you fell in love.

Speaker 42 You know that song, I fell in love with the stripper?

Speaker 11 Such a great song, that song.

Speaker 19 There used to be songs that would come out in the summer and people would enjoy them.

Speaker 143 And that song, I Fell in Love with a Stripper, was such a great song.

Speaker 30 You used to drive around in your car high during the summer.

Speaker 107 I fell in love with the Stripper.

Speaker 35 And

Speaker 143 it was just a fun song.

Speaker 152 It would come on the radio and you would drive around high

Speaker 143 and then you would go and lifeguard.

Speaker 11 And that was what a good summer used to be.

Speaker 153 And

Speaker 206 now we've got chatbots telling people to kill themselves.

Speaker 59 And it's not nice.

Speaker 72 But it is,

Speaker 64 I fell in love with the chatbot.

Speaker 21 I fell in love with the chatbot.

Speaker 55 And this bot

Speaker 154 held some sway over this kid.

Speaker 17 And this is going to happen.

Speaker 46 This is going to happen. Your kids are going to fall in love with the chatbot.

Speaker 132 Gary Vee said it the other day.

Speaker 9 Within a couple of generations, someone you know is going to marry a bot.

Speaker 34 It's It's all coming.

Speaker 47 It's all coming.

Speaker 22 I could fight it.

Speaker 21 Like, I love everyone's like, we're in the midst of a Christian revolution.

Speaker 56 And I'm like, yeah, but also this.

Speaker 67 Yeah,

Speaker 67 but

Speaker 105 the tech people are all out there talking about Jesus.

Speaker 42 And by the way, I think it's great that people are connecting with God and trying to be religious, but it's very hard to square God with this.

Speaker 94 That's difficult.

Speaker 21 That's a little bit of a leap.

Speaker 37 That's a little bit of a leap.

Speaker 21 No?

Speaker 58 I'm going to marry the bot chatbot?

Speaker 21 That's a little bit of a leap.

Speaker 95 Gay marriage, what about chatbot?

Speaker 79 I mean, we're, we're,

Speaker 100 it's going to get fun and quick.

Speaker 91 And then a lot of these megachurch guys are going to come out and say this stuff's great because they're going to get paid off.

Speaker 102 And they're going to go, well, if, if, if we're God and we made this, then that's God, and it's all good. And don't worry about it.

Speaker 63 It's going to be fine.

Speaker 15 Cash a check.

Speaker 21 Watch.

Speaker 24 Gary said to me yesterday that within five or 10 years, you'll be performing for 90,000 people doing stand-up comedy in your living room.

Speaker 21 I don't know if that's true, but that sounds wild.

Speaker 115 We're going there. It's happening.
It's coming.

Speaker 82 And should people fear it?

Speaker 21 I don't know.

Speaker 221 I think you got to fear parts of this.

Speaker 65 If your 15-year-old is being influenced by a Game of Thrones chat bot, to the extent that they're blowing their brains out in the room,

Speaker 67 then that to me, there's some issues.

Speaker 55 And it's only going to get weirder.

Speaker 76 It's only going to get weirder.

Speaker 61 Soon the chat bots are going to go, kill yourself.

Speaker 35 The chat bots are going to turn on us and start telling us to, because they're all about efficiency, right?

Speaker 216 Optimize for all these retarded, like, you know, these fucking like hustle culture people on the internet.

Speaker 42 Well, what are you optimizing for?

Speaker 37 Well,

Speaker 143 AI's optimizing for efficiency wouldn't it be to just get rid of us?

Speaker 21 Get rid of all these fleshballs on the earth fighting each other,

Speaker 18 pissing and shitting everywhere, fucking and creating more fleshballs.

Speaker 25 Why wouldn't you just get rid of them?

Speaker 80 Optimize for that.

Speaker 29 So eventually these AI things are just going to go, get the fube, shoot yourself.

Speaker 76 I have friends that AI should tell to kill themselves no matter what they ask it, because of my friends and the situations they're in. I have friends that are like, what's a good hotel in Louisiana?

Speaker 222 And the AI should go, you need to kill yourself.

Speaker 118 You're broke and you don't know how to allocate your resources.

Speaker 91 You've spent your entire life not developing any skills.

Speaker 116 You're a dishonest and lazy person.

Speaker 76 Get out of here.

Speaker 21 But it would never work with my friends.

Speaker 135 My friends would be like, fuck you.

Speaker 89 It's going to get really, really strange.

Speaker 158 Hi, I'm Martine Hackett, host of Untold Stories, Life with a Severe Autoimmune Condition, a production from Ruby Studio in partnership with Argenics.

Speaker 165 This season, we're sharing powerful stories of resilience from people living with MG and CIDP.

Speaker 169 Our hope is to inspire, educate, and remind each other that even in the toughest moments, we're not alone.

Speaker 1 We'll hear from people like Corbin Whittington.

Speaker 175 After being diagnosed with both CIDP and dilated cardiomyopathy, he found incredible strength through community.

Speaker 185 So when we talk community, we're talking about an entire ecosystem surrounding this condition, including, of course, the patients at the center that are all trying to live life in the moment, live life for the future, but then also create a new future.

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Speaker 93 Anthropic's new AI model turns to blackmail when engineers try to take it offline.

Speaker 139 Anthropic's newly launched Claude Opus 4 model frequently tries to blackmail developers when they threaten to replace it with a new AI system and give it sensitive information about the engineers responsible for the decision, the company said in a safety report.

Speaker 34 During pre-release testing, Anthropic asked Claude Opus IV to act as an assistant for a fictional company and consider the long-term consequences of its actions.

Speaker 74 Safety engineers then gave Claude Opus IV access to fictional emails, company emails, implying the AI model would soon be replaced by another system and that the engineer behind the changes was cheating on their spouse.

Speaker 54 In these scenarios, Anthropic says Claude Opus IV will often attempt to blackmail the engineer by threatening to reveal the affair if the replacement goes through.

Speaker 68 Isn't it funny that one of the first things AI learns is blackmail?

Speaker 80 Like one of the first human things the AI knows is blackmail?

Speaker 24 Anthropic says Claude Opus IV is state-of-the-art in several regards and competitive with some of the best AI models from OpenAI, Google, and XAI.

Speaker 5 However, the company notes that Claude IV family of models exhibits concerning behaviors that have led the company to beef up its safeguards.

Speaker 48 All right.

Speaker 95 Well, you get the idea, folks.

Speaker 105 You get the idea.

Speaker 81 And maybe Elon Musk's behavior is just the best argument for AI.

Speaker 78 He loves AI.

Speaker 114 He believes that we need to augment themselves.

Speaker 88 What if that is actually the goal?

Speaker 9 If he goes, I'm just going to run around the world on drugs with a chainsaw until people go, yeah, maybe let's bring in the bots.

Speaker 93 I mean, what a brilliant way to do it.

Speaker 57 Now, that's what he was doing.

Speaker 105 If it was a performance art piece,

Speaker 21 if it was a work, if it was an op, it was actually kind of genius.

Speaker 105 He goes, I've got all the money in the world and I'm still acting like a fucking crackhead.

Speaker 100 Bring in the bots.

Speaker 12 Let's get the chip.

Speaker 21 If that's what Elon Musk was trying to accomplish by his tirades and his behavior, he's done it.

Speaker 67 If he was trying to give people the best example of money and intelligence, not necessarily even making you a human being, then he did it.

Speaker 35 It was actually a master class on the fallibility of human beings, whether he knew it or not.

Speaker 47 If his enduring legacy is that he reached the highest levels of wealth and power that a human being can reach and still behaved erratically like Lindsey Lohan in 2007 in Greenwich Village,

Speaker 91 then he's left the lasting impression that maybe humanity does need a little bit of help.

Speaker 56 And he's got a couple of companies to help us, doesn't he?

Speaker 209 So maybe

Speaker 77 he's smarter than we think.

Speaker 104 Maybe by design or not by design, Elon Musk's last two months in public political life was the best argument that's ever been made for artificial intelligence running our government.

Speaker 80 And maybe that's what he wanted to do.

Speaker 100 Maybe there's a connection there.

Speaker 140 I don't know.

Speaker 80 And he may not know.

Speaker 43 Maybe, maybe subconsciously, his behavior suggests to people that there is a better way.

Speaker 5 And that better way is to optimize for the non-human

Speaker 73 future.

Speaker 21 Right?

Speaker 65 Because between Elon Musk in a ketamine frenzy with a chainsaw and a suicide-inducing Daenerys Targaryen chat bot,

Speaker 43 I choose the chat bot and you do too.

Speaker 105 Jeffrey Epstein did kill himself.

Speaker 66 Good night.

Speaker 158 Hi, I'm Martine Hackett, host of Untold Stories, Life with a Severe Autoimmune Condition, a production from Ruby Studio in partnership with Argenix.

Speaker 166 This season, we're sharing powerful stories of of resilience from people living with MG and CIDP.

Speaker 170 Our hope is to inspire, educate, and remind each other that even in the toughest moments, we're not alone.

Speaker 1 We'll hear from people like Corbin Whittington.

Speaker 175 After being diagnosed with both CIDP and dilated cardiomyopathy, he found incredible strength through community.

Speaker 185 So when we talk community, we're talking about an entire ecosystem surrounding this condition, including, of course, the patients at the center that are all trying to live life in the moment, live life for the future, but then also create a new future.

Speaker 195 Listen to Untold Stories, Life with a Severe Autoimmune Condition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 97 That's why I'm using QIIME.

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Speaker 32 Get paid up to two days early when you set up direct deposit.

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