445 - CNN Interview, Ms. Rachel Propaganda, & The Uncancelables

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Tim discusses his recent CNN interview that went viral, Ms. Rachel receiving backlash for supporting Palestine, the end of Elon Musk’s DOGE era, a Mexican navy ship that crashed into the Brooklyn bridge, the tragic end for the Israeli aides in Washington, Kevin Spacey’s return speech at Cannes, and Trump’s decision to revoke all international student visas at Harvard. 



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Speaker 3 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Tim Dylan podcast.

Speaker 4 Thank you for joining us.

Speaker 3 Thank you for watching the interview on CNN, which they released. And I am

Speaker 7 grateful

Speaker 3 to CNN for their

Speaker 3 honesty in putting out that entire interview and not editing it.

Speaker 11 And I want to thank L, the interviewer, for pushing for that.

Speaker 13 I think it was a good conversation that highlighted a lot of differences

Speaker 14 between myself

Speaker 16 and the interviewer in a respectful way.

Speaker 19 And I think a lot of people are

Speaker 9 responding to that.

Speaker 14 You know, a lot of people are saying, wow,

Speaker 4 you can just

Speaker 3 have a conversation.

Speaker 3 and not scream and yell and not be contentious and not be angry.

Speaker 6 I think a lot of what people are missing

Speaker 25 is that people don't have a shared base of knowledge.

Speaker 3 So people feel like they're being attacked all the time.

Speaker 29 But really, this woman just didn't know a lot of things.

Speaker 3 And she had made assumptions based on not having the information.

Speaker 20 So the way to deal with that is not to go, what the fuck are you talking about, you stupid bit.

Speaker 38 Like the way to deal with it is to go, oh yeah,

Speaker 27 I don't think you realize

Speaker 12 X

Speaker 22 or Y or Z.

Speaker 3 It wasn't to like,

Speaker 42 you know, fly off the handle and call her.

Speaker 17 Like friends of mine were really angry at her. I had friends of my text,

Speaker 43 how the fuck does she need?

Speaker 14 Guys, she doesn't,

Speaker 3 she doesn't know.

Speaker 22 She read a few articles about podcasts and then did this interview.

Speaker 3 She's not a student of comedy. She's not a scholar of comedy.

Speaker 45 She doesn't understand

Speaker 9 a lot of the topics that she's talking about.

Speaker 12 Or there are gaping holes in

Speaker 49 her understanding of certain things.

Speaker 4 And if I can correct her in a nice way,

Speaker 14 that's the way to do it. That's the way to do it.

Speaker 3 And I think she probably left that interview going, okay,

Speaker 3 because her premise is that comedy is owned by Joe Rogan.

Speaker 51 And

Speaker 9 the podcasts that are

Speaker 52 the ones that Trump went on and Vance

Speaker 9 are the only podcasts that exist or are the biggest.

Speaker 8 And that's simply not true.

Speaker 20 Comedy has people from all stripes.

Speaker 14 A lot of them are very successful.

Speaker 9 A lot of them people have no idea who they are because everybody's siloed in their own bubble.

Speaker 6 You know, I tell people all the time how well other people are doing.

Speaker 17 And friends of mine are shocked.

Speaker 14 I go, you know, that guy's doing this.

Speaker 20 And they go, what?

Speaker 55 What?

Speaker 56 Because they're not

Speaker 3 in that, it's not in their algorithm or on their feed.

Speaker 4 They're not being exposed to it.

Speaker 60 They don't know.

Speaker 56 Amy Poehler has a tremendously popular podcast.

Speaker 29 But a lot of people don't even know she has one.

Speaker 21 But now they're doing all those rankings and you go, oh, Amy Poehler's got a really popular podcast.

Speaker 39 The Midas Touch is a very popular liberal podcast with these lawyers or brothers or whatever.

Speaker 10 But a lot of people wouldn't know what that is, but it gets a ton of downloads.

Speaker 64 You know,

Speaker 13 this whole idea that four or five podcasts

Speaker 4 were the deciding factor in the election is a very convenient belief.

Speaker 3 It's not true.

Speaker 14 I said it the day after the election I recorded from Miami.

Speaker 15 I said it.

Speaker 10 No one's going to buy this.

Speaker 3 No one's going to buy that Theo Vaughn swayed the course of human history.

Speaker 67 I love Theo Vaughn, but you're putting too much pressure on him.

Speaker 17 That's not what happened.

Speaker 61 Does no one remember what happened with the old guy and the debate and the babbling and then the who's going to do it?

Speaker 72 And then Kamala comes in and then Trump gets shot and he survives with the hand and the blood.

Speaker 69 Like, you're leaving out so much

Speaker 65 to just bring up five podcasts.

Speaker 56 You're leaving out like

Speaker 76 everything that happened.

Speaker 45 Well, it's just these five podcasts.

Speaker 77 But I like, I thought she was very nice.

Speaker 76 She was not super combative.

Speaker 33 And I've spoken to her since.

Speaker 78 And I know that a lot of people

Speaker 17 have come down on her.

Speaker 80 But her point of view is not unique.

Speaker 16 That's not a rare point of view.

Speaker 20 People are calling me,

Speaker 43 who is she?

Speaker 39 How'd they let her do that?

Speaker 4 That is a point of view that is held by the majority of people in the media that I speak to

Speaker 39 who are trying to reconcile all of these things in their head.

Speaker 17 Comedy's right-wing now.

Speaker 84 A lot of the people they describe are right-wing are more centrist.

Speaker 85 Some of them aren't,

Speaker 86 but the idea that they dominate all of comedy is untrue.

Speaker 17 It's completely untrue.

Speaker 54 What has happened over the last five years

Speaker 69 is that all traditional media, all of it, television, film,

Speaker 80 streaming,

Speaker 90 less streaming, because streaming is still doing very well, but in certain, on certain platforms, but all traditional media

Speaker 66 has

Speaker 78 declined and is in probably

Speaker 93 a terminal decline free fall

Speaker 94 so if you're pointing to

Speaker 58 liberal or left-leaning left of center shows that are on cable

Speaker 19 that's that doesn't mean that that comedy doesn't exist anymore or that Those people aren't relevant.

Speaker 60 It means the platforms they're on are dying.

Speaker 93 Cable is dying.

Speaker 16 Comedy Central is dying.

Speaker 4 I had a meeting with Comedy Central, I think, in like 2018 or 2019, with these two executives.

Speaker 102 And I was sitting there, and they said they were young, they were like in their 20s, like late 20s, and they said, We've got an exciting new venture.

Speaker 3 And I said, What?

Speaker 103 And they go, Podcasting.

Speaker 43 I go, Podcasting?

Speaker 82 It's 2019.

Speaker 104 It's been around for like 10

Speaker 40 And they were getting into podcasting and digital stuff then.

Speaker 10 And they didn't devote any real

Speaker 96 money to expanding their digital presence.

Speaker 31 You got to remember: Comedy Central had this comedy audience and did nothing with it on the internet.

Speaker 105 They did nothing with it.

Speaker 63 They were passed by every

Speaker 27 YouTube

Speaker 62 sketch group,

Speaker 106 every Smosh, every whatever.

Speaker 88 If you go back in time and you look at all of the early adapters to YouTube, Comedy Central did nothing.

Speaker 3 All of these legacy media institutions had massive audiences at one time.

Speaker 27 And none of them, or very few of them, pivoted. in a meaningful way to digital.

Speaker 66 They didn't take their audience with them and say, hey, guys, there's actually this platform

Speaker 25 that some people think is going to be pretty big.

Speaker 39 It's called the internet.

Speaker 29 They did nothing with it.

Speaker 4 And these people, and I remember all of these comics that I was friends with telling me Hollywood's not going anywhere.

Speaker 78 This was something people thought, Hollywood's not going anywhere.

Speaker 76 And they believed it.

Speaker 110 And I even believed it.

Speaker 12 Not enough to not do my own thing because I needed to survive.

Speaker 94 But

Speaker 68 that was the belief that people said.

Speaker 66 And they said to each other: the business is not going anywhere. Stay in the business.

Speaker 10 Stay.

Speaker 112 I remember big comedians, I won't say their names.

Speaker 91 One of them said to a friend of mine: never make Hollywood the joke.

Speaker 113 Never turn on them.

Speaker 39 Don't.

Speaker 39 Now, there's good reasons for that too.

Speaker 66 You don't want to seem bitter, resentful, whatever.

Speaker 26 And I understand what this comedian was saying, but I think he was saying to the person, like,

Speaker 115 play

Speaker 85 your position no matter what.

Speaker 24 And the business will decide

Speaker 117 what you are.

Speaker 10 Are you a writer?

Speaker 118 Are you an actor?

Speaker 63 Do you do a bit part?

Speaker 25 Are you the star of the show?

Speaker 33 Are you a stand-up comedian?

Speaker 19 We'll decide.

Speaker 69 The business will decide who and what you are.

Speaker 27 And the business made a lot of great decisions, a couple of bad ones.

Speaker 66 But that was the accepted

Speaker 19 reality.

Speaker 85 You can do everything you want to do,

Speaker 88 and then you sit back and wait to see what happens.

Speaker 120 And all of these people

Speaker 97 were sitting around going, the business is not going anywhere, Hollywood's not going anywhere, I don't have to be on the internet, I don't have to be on YouTube, I don't have to be on social media, I don't have to do these things, I can do other things, I get a check, I get paid.

Speaker 122 And again, this isn't a crusade against Hollywood.

Speaker 54 All the movies I grew up with that I loved were made in that system.

Speaker 16 All the television I watched that I grew up with was made in that system.

Speaker 71 All the stand-up comedians that I loved, the vast majority of them existed

Speaker 60 on that spectrum somewhere.

Speaker 24 Some of them were beloved.

Speaker 33 Some of them weren't.

Speaker 60 Some of them were more on the outside.

Speaker 24 But this is not an indictment of that.

Speaker 12 I don't, I mean, I don't, I,

Speaker 43 yeah, I don't love the child rape.

Speaker 54 If I had, if there was a couple of sticking points, I would, you know, and the, you know, you know, throwing women in the Grand Canyon or whatever they were doing.

Speaker 33 But if you look at the product, the product, some of it was really good.

Speaker 75 But

Speaker 86 there's an inevitability to innovation.

Speaker 92 Things change rapidly.

Speaker 62 And things changed, and you had to be

Speaker 62 you had to be ignorant of it

Speaker 124 purposefully.

Speaker 125 You had to bury your head in the sand.

Speaker 62 You had to ignore it. You had to be,

Speaker 126 it was coming.

Speaker 100 Louis C.K.

Speaker 127 released his own special on his own website.

Speaker 75 That was a shot fired across the bow.

Speaker 21 That was a pivotal moment where people were like, wow, you could do that.

Speaker 76 You can do that.

Speaker 78 That was a big thing.

Speaker 83 He made Horace and Pete, right?

Speaker 68 These are things.

Speaker 129 You know,

Speaker 100 Joe Rogan had a podcast where he was doing these long-form interviews and it was gaining tons of popularity.

Speaker 39 And comics around his orbit in Los Angeles were building major followings online.

Speaker 28 And now it's on CNN.

Speaker 56 But back then, it was ignored.

Speaker 78 It was ignored because none of those people had a development deal with Fox

Speaker 63 or HBO.

Speaker 19 So all of the things that are now front page news, and I don't even think they should be,

Speaker 12 but they are,

Speaker 20 were ignored.

Speaker 15 What today is being ignored that in five years is going to be the biggest story.

Speaker 78 It's something I thought about as I left CNN a month ago.

Speaker 61 I go, I remember when nobody cared.

Speaker 73 I remember when this was a joke.

Speaker 23 I remember when the word podcast was actually a joke.

Speaker 34 Oh, go do a podcast.

Speaker 24 And you know where those people are today?

Speaker 121 All those people that made fun of podcasters, you know where they are today?

Speaker 8 They're in Gaza.

Speaker 39 I'm kidding.

Speaker 9 They're actually on the other side, interestingly enough.

Speaker 85 Here's my point.

Speaker 134 Let me not mix up geopolitics into this.

Speaker 3 It's neither here nor there.

Speaker 22 What I'm saying is, always be looking out for whatever's coming.

Speaker 58 I don't know what's coming.

Speaker 39 If I did, I'd have a ton of money, a lot more than I do now.

Speaker 10 I don't know what's next.

Speaker 68 But I know that all the things that people made fun of and YouTube and podcasting, this was all a slur.

Speaker 136 It was a malediction.

Speaker 104 It was a way to denigrate somebody and their career.

Speaker 54 It was a way to insult them.

Speaker 58 These things have now become

Speaker 96 very,

Speaker 96 very mainstream things.

Speaker 54 I don't know what's coming next. I don't know what's coming.

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Speaker 16 I don't know much about Miss Rachel.

Speaker 16 I haven't consumed much of her content.

Speaker 119 My godson, who is four,

Speaker 100 I don't think is a Miss Rachel fan either.

Speaker 85 I don't know.

Speaker 78 I don't know what he watches, but I don't think it's Miss Rachel.

Speaker 207 I don't know what's going on in that household, to be quite honest, but

Speaker 83 Miss Rachel has come under fire recently because she does content for children,

Speaker 97 singing songs,

Speaker 124 things like that for kids.

Speaker 117 And Miss Rachel has come under fire

Speaker 124 because she's spoken out for the children of Gaza

Speaker 119 who are being starved to death and killed, bombed and stuff.

Speaker 58 And Miss Rachel,

Speaker 95 something's wrong with her, this woman.

Speaker 100 I think she's, I don't know what's wrong with her.

Speaker 96 She's like mad at this.

Speaker 209 What?

Speaker 96 So, Miss Ray, yeah, I know.

Speaker 207 I know.

Speaker 29 So this woman

Speaker 40 is like, doesn't like why all these kids in Gaza like do have to go, like all of them.

Speaker 88 She doesn't get it.

Speaker 123 She didn't get the memo that like

Speaker 26 these are not blameless

Speaker 7 children.

Speaker 120 They are

Speaker 20 part

Speaker 20 of

Speaker 37 a very, very

Speaker 43 dangerous

Speaker 76 terrorist organization.

Speaker 62 And they have to be

Speaker 33 And I mean, there's people that are coming on saying this, by the way.

Speaker 39 Dr.

Speaker 24 Einat Wolf is out going.

Speaker 58 The

Speaker 136 Hamas represents the genuine desires of the Palestinian people.

Speaker 83 Another guy just came out, and we'll play him later saying that, like, hey, there's not really anybody innocent over there.

Speaker 100 There's no such thing as innocent people.

Speaker 35 And so, and of course.

Speaker 67 So it's odd to me that Miss Rachel

Speaker 210 is not figuring this out.

Speaker 63 She's like just looking at these kids and going, why do we keep killing these kids?

Speaker 70 And there's a good re, there's always a good reason for children being killed.

Speaker 69 Oh, literally always.

Speaker 123 And it bothers me when people make it simple.

Speaker 10 Like people make it really simple and it's like the world is not that simple.

Speaker 73 When I see a child being killed, the first thing I do is step back and take a moment.

Speaker 37 I take a moment and I think about history and I think about the layers and the complexity, the ins and the outs. And that's what I do.

Speaker 74 Miss Rachel, this dumb bitch, by the way, she sees a kid being killed and he's like, stop it.

Speaker 213 Stop killing that kid.

Speaker 208 And I'm like, wait a minute.

Speaker 214 Why don't you read the book?

Speaker 39 How about some study?

Speaker 39 When I see a kid being killed, I immediately open a book and I begin to read the book and I

Speaker 33 and I'll find the answer.

Speaker 37 I don't know where chapter three,

Speaker 39 maybe chapter 12, but I will keep reading the book.

Speaker 83 I do a lot of this when I see a kid being killed.

Speaker 42 I do a lot of this. I do a lot of

Speaker 17 interesting.

Speaker 34 What is happening?

Speaker 53 What is this?

Speaker 78 So she is, you know, understandably

Speaker 33 ignorant of the need to,

Speaker 64 you know, there's always a reason.

Speaker 123 We're not just running around killing kids unless it's a necessary thing

Speaker 38 to be done.

Speaker 39 Right?

Speaker 35 I mean,

Speaker 209 so this whack job, okay,

Speaker 72 to make some political point, I don't want to see politics when I'm watching a children's show.

Speaker 117 Now, Miss Rachel is politicizing her children's show

Speaker 101 with Hamas propaganda.

Speaker 117 Let's take a look.

Speaker 86 And by the way, this is not for the faint of heart.

Speaker 101 I'm telling you right now, I watched this.

Speaker 68 I was in disbelief at how sick it is.

Speaker 83 I was in literal disbelief.

Speaker 127 This is one of the sickest and most insane things I've seen in my life.

Speaker 58 This is an American

Speaker 109 mother

Speaker 26 engaging in Hamas propaganda with a member of Hamas.

Speaker 85 She brought a member of Hamas on her show.

Speaker 69 Let's take a look.

Speaker 42 See if we can get a little volume there.

Speaker 127 Disgusting.

Speaker 30 Wake up soon.

Speaker 30 Let's pretend asleep.

Speaker 30 Wake up, little bunnies.

Speaker 30 Skip, little bunnies, skip, skip, skip, skip, little bunnies, skip, little, skip, skip, little bunnies, skip, skip, skip, skip, skip, skip, then stop. Let's hop again.

Speaker 30 Hop little bunnies, hop, hop, hop, hop, little bunnies, hop, hop, hop.

Speaker 99 This is Hamas propaganda.

Speaker 131 Let's stop this for a minute because

Speaker 72 this is insane.

Speaker 78 It is propaganda.

Speaker 53 Miss Rachel

Speaker 69 with the a girl who lost both of her legs

Speaker 81 in gaza

Speaker 71 and again you might you might you might think that's wrong

Speaker 124 you might think that's wrong from the comfort of your house

Speaker 215 you might not understand

Speaker 39 why it's right

Speaker 37 Because as Douglas Murray would say, you're in the, you're in the comfort of your home.

Speaker 92 You're in the comfort of your home.

Speaker 216 People in the Western world, in your cul-de-sacs and your suburbs, don't understand why that girl's legs needed to be off her body.

Speaker 120 Do you understand that?

Speaker 40 Maybe you're confused.

Speaker 61 You better get the memo.

Speaker 33 You better get the program as to why

Speaker 33 she needs to have no legs.

Speaker 67 But you'd understand that if you weren't so goddamn soft.

Speaker 20 See, everyone in the West is soft,

Speaker 86 and they can't understand why we got to kill children.

Speaker 76 They don't get it because they're too comfortable with their Chipotle balls and their fucking,

Speaker 123 I don't know, whatever else they got.

Speaker 76 They're fucking.

Speaker 111 I'm trying to, you know, here's the thing.

Speaker 100 I'm trying to think of like a

Speaker 99 regular mid-sized car,

Speaker 89 but I haven't had one in so long.

Speaker 25 So I'm trying to think a Kia with your Kias.

Speaker 17 That's one of them, right? Yeah.

Speaker 124 The point is

Speaker 204 everybody in our country is soft and doesn't get.

Speaker 33 Get her out of here. Get this propaganda out of here.

Speaker 39 This Hamas propaganda.

Speaker 85 Elon Musk is out of the White House.

Speaker 121 I told you it was going to happen.

Speaker 100 I said it was going to happen.

Speaker 119 You doubted me.

Speaker 62 You yelled and screamed at me. The Doge era.

Speaker 86 kind of ended.

Speaker 16 Elon Musk said, I'm going to save all this money.

Speaker 72 He said, I'm going to save

Speaker 10 $2 trillion. I don't know what they saved.

Speaker 39 A couple of pens.

Speaker 94 I don't know what kind of spending they even got to.

Speaker 124 He wasn't going to go through the Pentagon.

Speaker 120 They would have killed him.

Speaker 94 And he couldn't touch entitlements like Medicare and Social Security because a lot of people in Trump's orbit were rightly, including Bannon when I had him on the show, were like, The Republicans are going to get clobbered in the midterms if you allow Elon Musk to hack up these entitlement programs like Social Security.

Speaker 13 Bannon, though, came out and said everything changed for Musk after Trump publicly denied that the CEO would receive a secret China briefing.

Speaker 31 This is kind of interesting.

Speaker 86 Bannon, you could feel it. Everything changed.

Speaker 25 The fever had been broken.

Speaker 100 Bannon told the magazine, this is a piece in the Atlantic

Speaker 100 regarding the litany of concerns raised about the scope of Musk's influence within the federal government.

Speaker 88 And that's the thing.

Speaker 65 Musk realized, I think, pretty quickly

Speaker 57 that

Speaker 52 there was a ceiling

Speaker 73 to what he was doing.

Speaker 136 Donald Trump's not going to hand the presidency over to Elon Musk.

Speaker 130 It's just not going to happen.

Speaker 75 These tech guys

Speaker 24 do well to remember to stay in the shadows. That's where they made their money.

Speaker 33 That's where they made their fortunes, by the way.

Speaker 6 In the shadows, tucked up there in Cupertino, up there in Palo Alto, up there in Silicon Valley, where nobody knew what the hell they were doing.

Speaker 33 That's where they thrived, by the way.

Speaker 109 away from public scrutiny, hanging out with their friends.

Speaker 61 They did not thrive in the public eye.

Speaker 113 They don't know how to do it.

Speaker 75 That's not what they're good at.

Speaker 119 They need to stay away from biological entities.

Speaker 107 It's not good.

Speaker 86 It's not good.

Speaker 48 And they figured that out.

Speaker 25 Musk came out with the chainsaw, you know, at CPAC doing Tesla commercials on the White House lawn.

Speaker 35 It looked cringe.

Speaker 130 It looked bad.

Speaker 63 It didn't play

Speaker 20 well.

Speaker 10 Yeah, get up the photo of him with the,

Speaker 36 Yeah, I mean, this just, this isn't it.

Speaker 113 But he tried.

Speaker 33 He tried.

Speaker 108 Then he went, I have become meme.

Speaker 113 He tried.

Speaker 26 He thought it was going to go a lot better than it did.

Speaker 70 It didn't really work.

Speaker 65 But that's okay. He's got a company.

Speaker 58 He goes back to his company.

Speaker 58 They said incorrectly that Elon Musk is going to the Pentagon tomorrow to be briefed on to be briefed on any potential war with China.

Speaker 4 Trump said at the time, how ridiculous.

Speaker 112 China will not even be mentioned or discussed.

Speaker 33 So I think what basically happened

Speaker 21 was Elon Musk was kind of riding high.

Speaker 75 He got into a very, you know, pretty publicized fight with Scott Besant, Trump's Treasury Secretary, who can himself barely speak.

Speaker 75 And Elon and Scott got into a fight about about who would lead the IRS.

Speaker 67 And eventually, Elon's choice

Speaker 191 was defeated and they chose Besant's choice to head the Internal Revenue Service.

Speaker 20 So Elon was like hitting walls.

Speaker 33 And then there was this idea that he was going to get a briefing about China,

Speaker 39 who Elon has a lot of business with, by the way.

Speaker 26 And there's a lot of people that do not trust Elon.

Speaker 85 I don't know Elon. I met him one time.

Speaker 131 So So I'm really not an expert on Elon Musk, only to say that

Speaker 38 his public-facing behavior is a bit ridiculous and absurd.

Speaker 123 But I don't know what lurks underneath that.

Speaker 131 Maybe it's nothing.

Speaker 119 I don't know.

Speaker 21 It seems kind of a black box.

Speaker 5 I don't know, but there are people that believe he's owned by the CCP.

Speaker 194 There are people that believe that he's, you know, a problem.

Speaker 91 He's being controlled to some degree, whether through financial interest or other means, that he has a,

Speaker 114 you know, he's certainly

Speaker 39 has a very favorable view of the CCP.

Speaker 101 I don't know about him.

Speaker 123 Then I have people that know him

Speaker 86 decently well and they think he's a genius and,

Speaker 84 you know, just wants to help us all become AI and go terraform Mars, which I think is a lovely idea.

Speaker 17 Lovely thought.

Speaker 109 So I don't know.

Speaker 123 I just know that, remember that?

Speaker 77 By the way,

Speaker 21 the future of your life will be things that'll be, it'll feel like something

Speaker 65 was the entire reality of the world.

Speaker 19 And then a week later, it won't even, like, you'll talk to somebody, you'll go, remember when Elon Musk like ran the government for three weeks?

Speaker 123 And then two months later, it'll be like it never happened.

Speaker 33 And then you'll be like, remember tariffs?

Speaker 85 And then a month later, it'll be like it never happened.

Speaker 71 You know, remember when Trump and Zelensky and Vance got in that fight in the Oval Office?

Speaker 20 What?

Speaker 216 It's over.

Speaker 85 Remember when Trump yelled at the South African guy about genocide?

Speaker 10 You didn't even know that happened.

Speaker 124 You didn't even know it happened, but it did.

Speaker 75 He brought the South African president in and he goes, Why are all these white farmers getting killed?

Speaker 42 And the guy's like, What?

Speaker 95 I'm not doing it.

Speaker 83 But that kind of ambush White House fund that they're having

Speaker 63 is a reality show.

Speaker 14 The entire country now is a reality show.

Speaker 123 People are getting owned.

Speaker 33 It's like the beginning of the Real Housewives where they all have a catchphrase.

Speaker 25 People have catchphrases and nicknames.

Speaker 123 People are getting owned.

Speaker 120 People come in, they have a big storyline.

Speaker 124 Elon, Doge, then they vanish.

Speaker 43 What happened to them?

Speaker 44 They're gone.

Speaker 10 It's become a reality television show

Speaker 130 where stories pop up and then they disappear.

Speaker 69 Things are unbelievable.

Speaker 71 There was a Navy ship, a Mexican Navy ship that crashed into the Brooklyn Bridge.

Speaker 44 It looked like it was an old Clipper ship.

Speaker 71 The Mexican Navy was doing some type of like, I don't know, like

Speaker 69 regatta, like here we are.

Speaker 120 And then it crashed to the Brooklyn Bridge, and a couple of people died.

Speaker 70 Here, play this a little bit.

Speaker 217 So, that Mexican Navy ship snapping into pieces, nearly 300 sailors on the ship on a training mission. Two of them were killed, several others recovering from injuries tonight.

Speaker 217 And there are many questions about how this happened.

Speaker 200 Here's Gio Bedides.

Speaker 34 Yeah, quick to establish.

Speaker 119 Here's my question: Why is the Mexican Navy on a training mission in the East River

Speaker 43 in an in an old Clipper ship

Speaker 216 and then why are they crashing into the Brooklyn Bridge?

Speaker 20 Let's watch a little bit more

Speaker 218 tonight growing questions about what caused that catastrophic ship crash into the Brooklyn Bridge killing two people injuring 19 more stunning videos capturing the moment of impact Saturday night

Speaker 218 This one filmed by someone on the bridge Late today, officials confirming there was no significant damage to the iconic bridge.

Speaker 218 The NTSB says the Mexican Navy ship carrying nearly 300 people on a training mission departed a Manhattan Pier around 8.20 Saturday night with the help of a tugboat, sailors seen lining the towering masts.

Speaker 55 The ship reversing.

Speaker 51 We'll move on here, but...

Speaker 142 Hi, I'm Martine Hackett, host of Untold Stories, Life with a Severe Autoimmune Condition, a production from Ruby Studio in partnership with Argenix.

Speaker 150 This season, we're sharing powerful stories of resilience from people living with MG and CIDP.

Speaker 156 Our hope is to inspire, educate, and remind each other that even in the toughest moments, we're not alone.

Speaker 159 We'll hear from people like Corbin Whittington.

Speaker 164 After being diagnosed with both CIDP and dilated cardiomyopathy, he found incredible strength through community.

Speaker 177 So when we talk community, we're talking about an entire ecosystem surrounding this condition, including, of course, the patients at the center, that are all trying to live life in the moment, live life for the future, but then also create a new future.

Speaker 187 Listen to Untold Stories, Life with a Severe Autoimmune Condition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Speaker 191 Oh my God, trying to make progress with my finances has been a real problem.

Speaker 80 That's why I'm using Chime.

Speaker 134 Chime understands that every dollar counts.

Speaker 194 That's why when you set up a direct deposit through QIIME, you get access to fee-free features like overdraft coverage, getting paid up to two days early with direct deposit, and more.

Speaker 112 Chime is banking done right.

Speaker 102 Open a checking account with no monthly fees and no maintenance fees.

Speaker 49 Get paid up to two days early when you set up direct deposit.

Speaker 5 With qualifying direct deposits, you're eligible for free overdraft up to $200 on debit card purchases and cash withdrawals.

Speaker 199 To date, Chime has spotted members over $30 billion.

Speaker 54 Open a checking account with no monthly fees, no maintenance?

Speaker 202 Not to mention access to over 47,000 fee-free ATMs, more than the top three national banks combined.

Speaker 81 I mean, QIIME is the best.

Speaker 100 The QIIME futures I love most,

Speaker 50 I love getting paid two days early with direct deposit.

Speaker 111 24-7 customer support comes in hand because sometimes I'll have a question at three in the morning about my direct deposit.

Speaker 127 It's so amazing that they can answer it then.

Speaker 204 I'm working on my financial goals through Chime today, and I suggest you do as well.

Speaker 58 Open an account in two minutes minutes at chime.com slash Tim.

Speaker 57 That's chime.com slash Tim.

Speaker 206 Chime feels like progress.

Speaker 73 This is just what I mean.

Speaker 97 There's so many

Speaker 86 things that are happening in succession that you can't focus on any one thing.

Speaker 43 And as you ask a question,

Speaker 34 this horrible thing just happened with a couple.

Speaker 97 in Washington, D.C.

Speaker 89 that were attending some type of humanitarian function.

Speaker 40 It was a Jewish woman and a Christian man or something like that, or two Jewish people or one Jewish person, a Christian, but they were this lovely, good-looking young couple that were gunned down by some lunatic and they were attending some function.

Speaker 99 And that'll be out of the press in 48 hours

Speaker 216 because we just don't have the capacity to

Speaker 117 really focus on any of this stuff or what any of it means.

Speaker 83 The scariest thing, by the way, is not that these stories are ephemeral, which means fleeting.

Speaker 58 I know some of you struggle.

Speaker 210 It's not that we don't remember these things.

Speaker 24 It's that we can't analyze what any of them mean

Speaker 76 because they just vanish.

Speaker 62 They evaporate.

Speaker 39 And then we're all just sitting around like, wait,

Speaker 192 what happened again with that?

Speaker 209 What was that?

Speaker 21 It's my job to keep track of this bullshit.

Speaker 39 And I don't even know half of it.

Speaker 85 You know, I'm like, wait,

Speaker 43 what?

Speaker 44 Who?

Speaker 33 So this is terrible.

Speaker 83 There's an Israeli embassy.

Speaker 33 A young couple worked for the Israeli embassy.

Speaker 136 They've been shot dead outside of a Jewish museum in Washington, D.C.

Speaker 123 And by the way, it doesn't do anyone any good

Speaker 117 to be a psycho on Twitter saying they deserve to be killed.

Speaker 66 or it was an inside job or something like that.

Speaker 40 This doesn't,

Speaker 33 that doesn't help anybody.

Speaker 27 Doesn't help anybody for you to say that stuff because that's not your job.

Speaker 56 That's my job.

Speaker 91 Why in God's name would you say it for no money?

Speaker 39 No, I'm kidding.

Speaker 101 We don't know anything about this.

Speaker 86 All we know is that they clearly didn't deserve to die.

Speaker 103 Obviously, they're human beings.

Speaker 33 By the looks of it, they're pretty good human beings.

Speaker 124 We cannot co-sign the murder of innocent people.

Speaker 131 It is not good.

Speaker 119 We cannot do that.

Speaker 12 It is the way civilization unravels to just blindly co-sign the murder of innocent people.

Speaker 59 It's fucking crazy.

Speaker 130 Stop doing it.

Speaker 126 Stop trying to minimize it.

Speaker 58 It's not good. It hurts your own case.

Speaker 131 When you celebrate the death of innocent people, it could be one person, two people, however many people, it's not advancing anything in a positive way truly you know

Speaker 33 that doesn't mean you can't look at the circumstances of something

Speaker 69 and and and put it in a context of history or but none of that context should ever mean that it's okay

Speaker 108 it's not good i started the show with that When something horrible happens to somebody, your first goal isn't to go to the library and get a book, by the way.

Speaker 72 It's to say, stop this from happening.

Speaker 39 This shouldn't happen.

Speaker 117 It's not to go, well, let's think about it.

Speaker 33 Let's think about it for a minute.

Speaker 212 And then everybody's like, well, World War II, what about World War II?

Speaker 43 Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

Speaker 20 This isn't World War II.

Speaker 220 That's how you shut all of those people down immediately.

Speaker 124 You just go, oh, thanks for that.

Speaker 39 This isn't that.

Speaker 20 Well, in World War II, would you have been one of the people?

Speaker 74 Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's not World War II.

Speaker 33 That isn't what this is.

Speaker 26 Everybody always tries to make it into World War II.

Speaker 99 Well, it's actually a clash of civilization.

Speaker 130 Stop it. Stop it.

Speaker 10 We cannot celebrate, excuse the murder of

Speaker 20 people.

Speaker 76 It's completely fucked up.

Speaker 19 It is.

Speaker 73 Here's a story that gives me hope.

Speaker 100 There's certain stories in the country, I got to be honest with you, that

Speaker 40 make me sad.

Speaker 59 Many of the ones we just talked about today.

Speaker 46 There are stories that I think about, and I believe that this country may come out of this, malaise, and survive.

Speaker 78 Texas mother aids son in planning school shooting.

Speaker 15 in exchange for him babysitting his younger sibling.

Speaker 86 This tells me that we are still a country

Speaker 33 where people can do great things.

Speaker 86 We're going to play this in a second.

Speaker 117 But when I came across this story, it filled me

Speaker 21 with the type of kind of nostalgia I grew up in an era of school shootings.

Speaker 69 It filled me with an era

Speaker 86 of nostalgia because the family in this country is under attack.

Speaker 39 It is.

Speaker 125 We know it. We know it.

Speaker 100 We know it. We feel it.

Speaker 105 The family is under attack.

Speaker 210 And here's a family fighting back.

Speaker 78 Isn't it nice to see a family fight back?

Speaker 24 When the family is under attack, the family fights back.

Speaker 26 So, this is his son and his mother who plan

Speaker 216 to fight

Speaker 120 back

Speaker 78 against

Speaker 64 the forces that are trying to tear them apart.

Speaker 39 And actually, it's why our country exists.

Speaker 51 So before you get on your moral high horse, I want you to watch this.

Speaker 73 It makes me tear up. It's beautiful.
From CBS Sunday morning.

Speaker 221 Tonio, a mother is charged with providing her son the means to carry out an attack on his middle school, and now both are facing terrorism charges. Janet Chamleon has the story.

Speaker 221 Details are disturbing.

Speaker 222 Parents at San Antonio's Rhodes Middle School are asking why Ashley Rosalindo Pardo would allegedly provide her son with

Speaker 55 the thing he needed.

Speaker 17 Freeze frame on this.

Speaker 195 I'm not going to have this mother attacked.

Speaker 85 No, I won't do it.

Speaker 223 I won't do it. I'm not going to have this mother attack.

Speaker 120 Mother

Speaker 131 is the most sacred.

Speaker 126 and precious thing on earth, the mother.

Speaker 12 Okay?

Speaker 112 I'm not going to have this woman attacked.

Speaker 127 She is a mother.

Speaker 85 And

Speaker 46 I'm not going to have her attacked.

Speaker 100 And I'm not going to automatically assume because her face is covered in tattoos and teardrops that she's some type of criminal.

Speaker 85 I'm not going to assume because she has purple hair and what

Speaker 207 may be considered gang tattoos on her neck that she's a criminal.

Speaker 106 And I want everyone to give this mother the benefit of the doubt.

Speaker 27 I haven't even heard the details of the case, but off this photo, I'm a...

Speaker 76 Hello, Your Honor. The jury's reached a verdict and it's innocent.

Speaker 222 To carry out a potential lethal attack on his classmates.

Speaker 143 What kind of mother is she to be supplying her children with that?

Speaker 222 The boy, according to police, allegedly showed up at school Monday wearing a mask, camouflage jacket, and tactical pants, all provided by his mother, but then left shortly after.

Speaker 222 He was later arrested off off campus. Police say the boy's grandmother reported him to law enforcement earlier in the day.

Speaker 222 According to an affidavit, she said she found him on Sunday hitting a live bullet with a hammer. He allegedly told her his mom gave him the ammunition and also bought him tactical gear.

Speaker 222 Investigators say before leaving for school, the child told his grandmother he was going to be famous.

Speaker 222 Later that morning, she alleges she searched his room, finding ammunition and an improvised explosive device wrapped with duct tape that referenced the 2019 New Zealand mosque shooting.

Speaker 222 Police say they've been aware of the boy since January when school staff caught him with drawings that included a map of the school labeled Suicide Route.

Speaker 222 But when investigators questioned his mother, according to the affidavit, she did not feel concern for his behavior, later admitting she purchased her son's supplies, including ammo, in exchange for babysitting his younger siblings.

Speaker 79 Of course.

Speaker 222 Jail records indicate Pardo was released Tuesday on a bond of $75,000. For CBS mornings, I'm Janet Shamblion.

Speaker 85 I'm withholding judgment.

Speaker 60 I'm withholding judgment here.

Speaker 73 This is a free country.

Speaker 16 And she bought her son ammunition and helped him plan a school shooting because she needed to babysit.

Speaker 9 She needed a babysitter for the younger siblings.

Speaker 21 What about the dad, JK?

Speaker 8 JK.

Speaker 203 But

Speaker 106 listen, i'm withholding judgment i'm not going to run around and just to uh uh convict this woman

Speaker 26 because she did any of this there are reasons here that she did it there are layers there are many historic we got to put it in the context got to put it in the context of the history and of the political the socioeconomic.

Speaker 131 There's a lot.

Speaker 215 You might go, wait a minute, stop buying your kids' bullets.

Speaker 72 Shut up.

Speaker 123 There are many ways to look at this.

Speaker 24 We can't just make these judgments.

Speaker 131 We have to zoom out.

Speaker 78 Zoom out.

Speaker 39 Think about this, you know?

Speaker 142 Hi, I'm Martine Hackett, host of Untold Stories, Life with a Severe Autoimmune Condition, a production from Ruby Studio in partnership with Argenix.

Speaker 150 This season, we're sharing powerful stories of resilience from people living with MG and CIDP.

Speaker 156 Our hope is to inspire, educate, and remind each other that even in the toughest moments, we're not alone.

Speaker 159 We'll hear from people like Corbin Whittington.

Speaker 164 After being diagnosed with both CIDP and dilated cardiomyopathy, he found incredible strength through community.

Speaker 177 So when we talk community, we're talking about an entire ecosystem surrounding this condition, including, of course, the patients at the center, that are all trying to live life in the moment, live life for the future, but then also create a new future.

Speaker 187 Listen to Untold Stories, Life with a Severe Autoimmune Condition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Speaker 191 Oh my God, trying to make progress with my finances has been a real problem.

Speaker 80 That's why I'm using Chime.

Speaker 134 Chime understands that every dollar counts.

Speaker 194 That's why when you set up a direct deposit through QIIME, you get access to fee-free features like overdraft coverage, getting paid up to two days early with direct deposit and more.

Speaker 112 Chime is banking done right.

Speaker 102 Open a checking account with no monthly fees and no maintenance fees.

Speaker 49 Get paid up to two days early when you set up direct deposit.

Speaker 5 With qualifying direct deposits, you're eligible for free overdraft up to $200 on debit card purchases and cash withdrawals.

Speaker 199 To date, CHIME has spotted members over 30 billion.

Speaker 54 Open a checking account with no monthly fees, no maintenance?

Speaker 201 Not to mention access to over 47,000 fee-free ATMs, more than the top three national banks combined.

Speaker 81 I mean, CHIME Chime is the best.

Speaker 100 The Chime futures I love most,

Speaker 50 I love getting paid two days early with direct deposit.

Speaker 111 24-7 customer support comes in hand because sometimes I'll have a question at three in the morning about my direct deposit.

Speaker 127 It's so amazing that they can answer it then.

Speaker 204 I'm working on my financial goals through Chime today, and I suggest you do as well.

Speaker 46 Open an account in two minutes at chime.com slash Tim.

Speaker 57 That's chime.com slash Tim.

Speaker 206 Chime feels like progress.

Speaker 142 Hi, I'm Martine Hackett, host of Untold Stories, Life with a Severe Autoimmune Condition, a production from Ruby Studio in partnership with Argenix.

Speaker 150 This season, we're sharing powerful stories of resilience from people living with MG and CIDP.

Speaker 156 Our hope is to inspire, educate, and remind each other that even in the toughest moments, we're not alone.

Speaker 159 We'll hear from people like Corbin Whittington.

Speaker 164 After being diagnosed with both CIDP and dilated cardiomyopathy, he found incredible strength through community.

Speaker 177 So when we talk community, we're talking about an entire ecosystem surrounding this condition, including, of course, the patients at the center, that are all trying to live life in the moment, live life for the future, but then also create a new future.

Speaker 187 Listen to Untold Stories, Life with a Severe Autoimmune Condition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Speaker 191 Oh my God, trying to make progress with my finances has been a real problem.

Speaker 80 That's why I'm using Chime.

Speaker 134 Chime understands that every dollar counts.

Speaker 194 That's why when you set up a direct deposit through QIIME, you get access to fee-free features like overdraft coverage, getting paid up to two days early with direct deposit, and more.

Speaker 112 Chime is banking done right.

Speaker 102 Open a checking account with no monthly fees and no maintenance fees.

Speaker 49 Get paid up to two days early when you set up direct deposit.

Speaker 5 With qualifying direct deposits, you're eligible for free overdraft up to $200 on debit card purchases and cash withdrawals.

Speaker 199 To To date, QIIME has spotted members over 30 billion.

Speaker 201 Open a checking account with no monthly fees, no maintenance, not to mention access to over 47,000 fee-free ATMs, more than the top three national banks combined.

Speaker 81 I mean, QIIME is the best.

Speaker 27 The QIIME futures I love most, I love getting paid two days early with direct deposit.

Speaker 111 24-7 customer support comes in hand because sometimes I'll have a question at three in the morning about my direct deposit.

Speaker 127 It's so amazing that they can answer it then.

Speaker 204 I'm working on my financial goals through Chime today, and I suggest you do as well.

Speaker 46 Open an account in two minutes at chime.com slash Tim.

Speaker 57 That's chime.com slash Tim.

Speaker 206 Chime feels like progress.

Speaker 77 I'm just saying, I will.

Speaker 65 And by the way, congrats to our friend Kevin Spacey, who just got a Lifetime Achievement Award at

Speaker 195 the big film festival, the Cant Film Festival.

Speaker 85 God bless.

Speaker 195 I mean, he did the promotion for my special, I'm Your Mother on Netflix.

Speaker 85 And he

Speaker 26 kind of relaunched his career and got a Lifetime Achievement Award and spoke.

Speaker 39 I don't know if we have any of it. We probably don't.

Speaker 39 But

Speaker 36 it's good to see people

Speaker 119 coming back

Speaker 123 who maybe were unfairly

Speaker 208 maligned.

Speaker 113 Here we go.

Speaker 26 Let's listen to Kevin.

Speaker 224 I've been thinking about someone else who did what he could to make this a better world, and that was someone you saw earlier on the screen tonight, Kirk Douglas.

Speaker 7 Right.

Speaker 224 Great American film star. Now,

Speaker 224 it was a long, long time ago, so we have to try to remember the pushback that he received.

Speaker 224 After he made the brave decision to stand up for a fellow colleague, the two-time Oscar-winning screenwriter Dalton Trumbo, who had been blacklisted.

Speaker 224 From 1947 until 1960, he was blacklisted.

Speaker 224 Blacklisted. We know what that means, right? It means that he could not find work as a writer in Hollywood for 13 years.

Speaker 114 Terrible.

Speaker 224 But even after, He was warned that if he tried to hire Trumbo as the credited screenwriter for the film Spartagus in 1960, he would be called a commie lover and his career and professional status would be cancelled.

Speaker 224 Kirk Douglas took the risk.

Speaker 55 Hero. He would later say,

Speaker 224 and I won't do my Kirk Douglas impression,

Speaker 224 but he said this.

Speaker 224 It's easy for us actors to play the hero on screen.

Speaker 224 We get to fight the bad guys

Speaker 224 and stand up for justice.

Speaker 224 But in real life,

Speaker 224 the choices are not always so clear.

Speaker 39 That's right. All right, Kevin Spacey.

Speaker 61 I agree.

Speaker 124 And by the way, we're all going to feel pretty stupid when Diddy is getting a Lifetime Achievement Award in a few years.

Speaker 219 We're all going to feel pretty fucking stupid when Diddy is getting a Lifetime Achievement Award.

Speaker 106 And it's just going to happen.

Speaker 77 So we can, you can do the trial if you want, and you can have all these people whine about, you know him like putting her head in a fish tank or putting a water balloon up their ass or chasing them around with a with a hot poker whatever he did but he's getting a lifetime achievement award so just get your head around that wrap your head around that it's going to be happening in three or four years you're going to be on your couch and you're going to be watching pdd get a lifetime achievement award and he's going to be comparing himself to harriet tubman there's nothing wrong with it he's going to say and there was another

Speaker 80 person

Speaker 17 that a lot of people counted out, and her name was Harriet Tubman.

Speaker 82 And when she was on the Underground Railroad, she never gave up.

Speaker 17 And I'm not going to give up.

Speaker 78 And that'll be the next era.

Speaker 39 Celebrities getting uncanceled and then comparing themselves to historical figures.

Speaker 78 And I'm excited for it.

Speaker 26 I want Harvey Weinstein to come out and talk and compare himself to Oscar Schindler, who saved all the Jews in the Holocaust.

Speaker 130 I want it.

Speaker 29 I want it now.

Speaker 94 That's what I want for Christmas.

Speaker 26 Celebrities getting uncanceled at a podium and comparing themselves to historical figures.

Speaker 113 I want it.

Speaker 73 I want to feel it.

Speaker 63 Ellen, get your ass back here from the Cotswolds in England.

Speaker 75 Get your ass back here and compare yourself to Joan of Arc, Rosie O'Donnell.

Speaker 39 Everyone come back.

Speaker 129 Climb up on that cross and let's do it.

Speaker 211 You know you want it.

Speaker 35 You know you want it.

Speaker 86 Climb up on that cross and get the entire world to see you as a martyr.

Speaker 115 Do it.

Speaker 25 It's a great role.

Speaker 113 What a great role.

Speaker 71 Righteous indignation, the return.

Speaker 33 They did me wrong, but I persevered.

Speaker 83 Use the word persevere.

Speaker 119 Ellen, come back.

Speaker 113 It's what we need.

Speaker 94 You're never going to win when you have these big narcissistic personality.

Speaker 108 They're never going to go away.

Speaker 39 They'll never go away.

Speaker 25 Diddy will make music in prison.

Speaker 74 They will never go away.

Speaker 20 You have to just unfortunately roll over and let them just do it.

Speaker 94 Let them come back into the public world in some capacity.

Speaker 21 They're going to cry.

Speaker 33 They're going to scream.

Speaker 19 They're going to yell.

Speaker 77 They're going to say, you're going to feel bad for them.

Speaker 120 It doesn't really matter what they've done it does not matter what they've done

Speaker 33 it does you will feel bad for them in a few years you'll be telling your friend it's terrible what they did to diddy

Speaker 77 it's terrible what they did to p diddy he lost his friend biggie and then they said he raped everyone and and guess what all those all those people that said he raped them they were on drugs so at the end of the day it's just it's just gonna be what it'll be here you you don't have to like it, but you will one day, because here's the thing.

Speaker 123 The media,

Speaker 37 it's so much

Speaker 73 that eventually something starts happening.

Speaker 67 Diddy is done like the worst things I've ever heard.

Speaker 111 But eventually, what starts to happen is people are online at a Starbucks.

Speaker 120 They don't know what's true or not.

Speaker 85 And they don't have any money.

Speaker 212 And they can't get a job.

Speaker 113 And their lives suck.

Speaker 123 And they're not going to blame Diddy.

Speaker 39 They just never will.

Speaker 212 Diddy's a demon from hell.

Speaker 212 I'm not saying he's good, but you're on the line at Starbucks and you can't get a job and you can't get a department because your credit score is five points lower than it should be.

Speaker 210 You're not going to blame Kevin Spacey.

Speaker 6 You just aren't.

Speaker 85 You're not.

Speaker 215 So no matter what any of these people did, some of them did terrible things.

Speaker 26 Some of them did nothing.

Speaker 69 Some of them did all everything.

Speaker 213 But it's like, it doesn't affect you.

Speaker 214 Does it affect you? They're not even real.

Speaker 64 They're not even real.

Speaker 35 Well, do you know that blank raped blank?

Speaker 113 They're not even real to me.

Speaker 35 Oh, wait, did the Lorax rape someone too?

Speaker 95 Because Diddy might as well be the Lorax to you.

Speaker 33 It doesn't matter to you.

Speaker 123 I'm not saying he's good.

Speaker 114 Listen to what I'm saying.

Speaker 129 None of you people can ever listen to what I'm saying, but I'm trying to tell you that these people aren't even real to most people.

Speaker 213 They assume they're all evil.

Speaker 70 They assume it's a nightmare.

Speaker 72 Nobody's really shocked by it.

Speaker 43 Who's shocked anymore by the Hollywood Rape Fest?

Speaker 72 Who is shocked by this?

Speaker 129 Nobody.

Speaker 113 Nobody cares.

Speaker 39 10 years ago, people stopped watching all this shit.

Speaker 220 They started watching shows about flipping houses.

Speaker 35 They're just trying to stay alive.

Speaker 76 They're just trying to put a floor in their kitchen.

Speaker 98 They don't care that Ellen's hitting people with pots and pans backstage.

Speaker 213 It doesn't mean anything in their life.

Speaker 73 It doesn't do anything for them.

Speaker 19 So

Speaker 65 these big falls and the rises and everything,

Speaker 109 it doesn't land with people.

Speaker 123 It doesn't land with them.

Speaker 39 And so they're all just going to come back because

Speaker 98 they can't live anonymously.

Speaker 27 They would rather be hated. They would rather be hated than live anonymously.

Speaker 88 They don't care what they've done.

Speaker 37 They don't care what they've done.

Speaker 95 It won't matter.

Speaker 77 They can't,

Speaker 24 it is a fate worse than death for these people

Speaker 33 to live anonymously in some quiet little cul-de-sac somewhere.

Speaker 77 A life that many of us would say, that seems like a lovely life.

Speaker 39 They don't want it. They have no interest in it.

Speaker 76 They don't even know what they, they can't get oxygen that way.

Speaker 27 They can't even breathe.

Speaker 48 Ellen's in the UK plotting a return.

Speaker 137 Her and Porsche will get on their broomsticks and fly right back to Santa Barbara.

Speaker 65 They're plotting their return.

Speaker 72 It is a plot.

Speaker 123 They're not going away.

Speaker 94 They're spending the majority of the Trump administration figuring the next way they can force themselves on you.

Speaker 120 You cannot hide.

Speaker 216 Celebrity is the most powerful thing in our country.

Speaker 86 It's the reason Donald Trump got elected.

Speaker 124 The only thing in our country, everyone in this country wants to be famous all day, every day.

Speaker 117 And the promise of that, the thought that that could happen, is what keeps a lot of people alive.

Speaker 10 They won't go anywhere.

Speaker 10 They won't go anywhere.

Speaker 123 So you just have to let them all back.

Speaker 33 It doesn't matter.

Speaker 39 It doesn't matter what they did.

Speaker 77 Get Harvey out of jail tonight.

Speaker 64 Sorry.

Speaker 35 Sorry.

Speaker 117 Sorry, folks.

Speaker 123 Diddy's getting an award.

Speaker 39 Diddy's gonna get an award and you're gonna have to deal with it.

Speaker 120 I don't know what to tell you.

Speaker 27 You're not even gonna be mad.

Speaker 36 That's the other thing.

Speaker 74 That's the other thing.

Speaker 56 You're not gonna be mad.

Speaker 123 When Diddy gets an award in eight years.

Speaker 73 He does four years in jail. He comes out.

Speaker 124 He's got a book. It's a whole thing.
And then he's gonna get somebody's gonna give him an award and he'll be up there talking.

Speaker 56 And you're not going to be mad at Dick.

Speaker 97 You're going to be mad at so many things and so many people.

Speaker 66 You're going to be depressed about so many.

Speaker 210 You're not really going to be mad at Diddy.

Speaker 91 You're not going to care.

Speaker 12 It's not real to you.

Speaker 83 Doesn't exist. Doesn't matter.

Speaker 92 Does not matter.

Speaker 123 So just let him, I don't, just let him do it.

Speaker 210 No one's actually, no one really cares.

Speaker 54 No one cares.

Speaker 43 Literally.

Speaker 65 You watch the trial.

Speaker 39 You don't care.

Speaker 69 A guy's like, and I was a waiter and then I walked into a room to see if anyone wanted a crab puff and then I was fucked for 38 hours.

Speaker 44 You go, eh, eh, eh.

Speaker 123 You're not even, it's curious.

Speaker 70 How does that even happen?

Speaker 88 It's, you're not even mad because you're mad about congestion pricing.

Speaker 76 You're mad about the traffic.

Speaker 78 You're mad about your family.

Speaker 83 You're mad about the your kids aren't grateful for the things and the sacrifices you've made.

Speaker 123 It's so hard to sustain anger at people you do not know.

Speaker 212 And yes, they've done horrible things.

Speaker 44 They're doing horrible things.

Speaker 64 None of this is excusing what they've done.

Speaker 94 None of it is a commentary that they're like, whatever.

Speaker 109 All of it just says that it is impossible to sustain levels of anger at people who you just don't even regard as human or real.

Speaker 39 Nobody thinks Ellen's a human person that exists in life.

Speaker 129 No one feels that way.

Speaker 39 No one feels that way.

Speaker 39 People think she's an idea.

Speaker 212 She's a CIA asset, probably.

Speaker 65 She's

Speaker 123 a creation of like,

Speaker 85 she killed someone and assumed their identity.

Speaker 113 No one

Speaker 37 thinks of Ellen DeGeneres as someone who gets up and like has cereal in the morning.

Speaker 69 No one feels that way.

Speaker 12 There's not one person.

Speaker 43 I know people who work for her.

Speaker 15 No one, they think she sleeps upside down like a bat.

Speaker 24 She's in a hyperbaric chamber.

Speaker 100 She's from some other planet.

Speaker 210 Nobody feels that she's a prey.

Speaker 73 So nothing she does,

Speaker 78 you can't get mad at her.

Speaker 124 If someone said Ellen ate a baby, Ellen followed a mother home with a newborn and ate her baby,

Speaker 44 you wouldn't be mad.

Speaker 212 It would be bizarre.

Speaker 113 It would be bizarre.

Speaker 115 You know, and you'd feel bad for the mother, of course, but you wouldn't be mad at Ellen.

Speaker 211 It would be strange that that happened.

Speaker 70 And you'd think, thank God it wasn't my baby.

Speaker 39 Or what would I do if it was my baby?

Speaker 70 Thank God Ellen didn't eat my baby.

Speaker 77 Or why would she eat a baby?

Speaker 214 But you wouldn't be, you'd feel many emotions, but you'd never be mad at Ellen.

Speaker 113 It's like being mad at a rock.

Speaker 123 It's like when a plane crashes into a mountain, getting mad at the mountain.

Speaker 12 No one's mad at the mountain.

Speaker 212 God damn, that sucks.

Speaker 6 How that plane went right into the mountain?

Speaker 12 You don't go that fucking rock.

Speaker 17 It's been there a billion years.

Speaker 56 That's Ellen.

Speaker 72 She's the rock.

Speaker 23 There's nothing there.

Speaker 142 Hi, I'm Martine Hackett, host of Untold Stories, Life with a Severe Autoimmune Condition, a production from Ruby Studio in partnership with Argenix.

Speaker 150 This season, we're sharing powerful stories of resilience from people living with MG and CIDP.

Speaker 156 Our hope is to inspire, educate, and remind each other that even in the toughest moments, we're not alone.

Speaker 159 We'll hear from people like Corbin Whittington.

Speaker 164 After being diagnosed with both CIDP and dilated cardiomyopathy, he found incredible strength through community.

Speaker 177 So when we talk community, we're talking about an entire ecosystem surrounding this condition, including, of course, the patients at the center that are all trying to live life in the moment, live life for the future, but then also create a new future.

Speaker 187 Listen to Untold Stories, Life with a Severe Autoimmune Condition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 83 I wanted to cover this a little bit before I get out of it because I have friends at Harvard, some of these younger people and friends that go to Harvard.

Speaker 80 Donald Trump is foreign students at Harvard, which I think this is a bit silly again, a little bit of an overcorrection.

Speaker 134 I understand not admitting new foreign students and focusing on Americans.

Speaker 50 I understand that.

Speaker 58 But they're going to revoke all these student visas and deport all of these foreign students.

Speaker 91 And the judges recently just blocked Trump's efforts to bar international students at Harvard.

Speaker 135 They sued the administration, Harvard sued the administration, asked for a restraining order less than 24 hours after the Trump administration said it would block current and future international students from attending university.

Speaker 128 Listen, there's a few different things happening here.

Speaker 58 Number one, higher education has become, and I've said it a million times,

Speaker 4 an embarrassment

Speaker 16 to the United States of America.

Speaker 198 All of these schools promote varying degrees of absurd and ridiculous behavior.

Speaker 28 They did it during the pandemic, the safe spaces, the segregation, students of color needing this, LGBTQ students needing that,

Speaker 100 these weird struggle sessions they were having all over campus, some of these protests getting out of hand, taking over buildings, violence, intimidating other students.

Speaker 83 All of this shit is absolutely crazy.

Speaker 90 And I 1,000%

Speaker 220 agree with the Trump administration that a lot of these universities need to be reformed.

Speaker 108 They get a shitload of public funding.

Speaker 33 Things like Harvard have huge endowments.

Speaker 105 It's a corporation in addition to being a university.

Speaker 36 And American taxpayers should not be funding rich kids to have tantrums at Ivy League schools.

Speaker 21 1,000%.

Speaker 54 I do not believe American taxpayers should be funding rich kids to play dress up, have tantrums on schools, and call everyone in this country a racist Nazi.

Speaker 21 And I agree with it. That is insane.

Speaker 26 Get my fucking money out of there.

Speaker 94 But

Speaker 108 I do think it's a bit extreme to revoke all of these students' visas overnight that have been going to the school because Harvard's not going to go on.

Speaker 212 I hate ratting.

Speaker 113 We're like a country of rats. And it's like, give, give, we want all the, uh, we want all the data on who attended these protests or what they did and what they said.

Speaker 39 And it's it's like, hey, cut the rat shit out.

Speaker 25 I don't like a country of rats.

Speaker 39 Okay.

Speaker 94 Because the Trump administration was basically like, Harvard, we want, and these Harvard protests weren't even the ones that got that crazy.

Speaker 38 It got crazier other places.

Speaker 216 But I just don't like, you know, we have

Speaker 53 a legal system

Speaker 58 in this country.

Speaker 111 And this is what I didn't like about the heights of the moral panic in during the pandemic when everybody was like, let's try people on the internet.

Speaker 219 Let's do a

Speaker 33 trial by

Speaker 76 Twitter.

Speaker 67 Let's do a social media trial.

Speaker 88 And that was insane.

Speaker 119 I didn't like that.

Speaker 94 We have a legal system in America.

Speaker 119 It's imperfect, we know.

Speaker 38 but it can't be replaced by like vigilante mob justice.

Speaker 117 So if crimes are committed, you need to charge people with crimes.

Speaker 113 I don't think you could go to Harvard and go, just rat on all these kids that were there.

Speaker 94 Did the kids commit a crime that can be proved?

Speaker 210 Is the crime serious enough that we should revoke their visa?

Speaker 116 If it is, hey, fuck it.

Speaker 33 You get to go back to where none of these kids are broke.

Speaker 33 A kid I met Scott, a chick there from, I don't know, Brazil.

Speaker 44 She ain't broke.

Speaker 76 I'd love to be deported to Brazil.

Speaker 23 I like Brazilian architecture.

Speaker 76 They make use of wood, actually, actually, in a very calming way.

Speaker 130 A lot of open fire grilling.

Speaker 123 It's neither here nor there.

Speaker 117 I don't think we should just start throwing people

Speaker 20 out

Speaker 94 because of rat shit.

Speaker 210 It's not good when the country descends into

Speaker 119 being a rat.

Speaker 117 And I don't even like higher education.

Speaker 71 I don't.

Speaker 65 I don't.

Speaker 77 I said that.

Speaker 124 I don't think we should be funding these kids to have tantrums.

Speaker 83 And I think half of these teachers are completely insane.

Speaker 77 And they're inventing schools of study that don't even matter.

Speaker 10 They're creating this shit.

Speaker 36 They're weaving it out of, they're grabbing it out of thin air.

Speaker 75 I understand the frustration with that.

Speaker 59 I would vomit if I had to sit in one of these classrooms.

Speaker 128 These colleges preach

Speaker 21 a gospel of

Speaker 26 victimhood and things that I find gross.

Speaker 33 There's nothing worse in the world than being a victim, unless you're like that bitch with the no legs on the rape, Miss Rachel.

Speaker 19 She's a victim, genuinely, and she's dancing.

Speaker 24 If the woman, if the Gaza toddler with no legs can dance, you can shut up.

Speaker 24 Being a victim, unless you're a genuine victim, like the people starving over there, that's genuine victim.

Speaker 90 But being inventing

Speaker 17 a class that you need to, I hate all of that.

Speaker 108 Inventing this

Speaker 127 designation where you're in and now you're a victim whilst going to one of the most prestigious universities in America, shut the fuck up.

Speaker 117 Stop it.

Speaker 34 And when did Asians get in on this?

Speaker 211 Asians are in on this though?

Speaker 211 Asians are in on this?

Speaker 35 Asians are pretending to be black. Are you what?

Speaker 35 I thought it was one that was Okafina. It was the only Asian that was black.
And now she's not even allowed to be black.

Speaker 214 And I liked her that she was black.

Speaker 35 I lied to her when she was black.

Speaker 6 I'm making a point about globalism.

Speaker 38 What I'm saying is that I don't think it's fair to just start yanking all these kids off the campus.

Speaker 123 You know, and then these kids, they don't know what status your legal visa is.

Speaker 72 Listen,

Speaker 128 I'm fully on board that these institutions need to be reformed, that people shouldn't be paying

Speaker 29 for the absurdity.

Speaker 87 But I also think if you're going to deport people, they need to have committed a crime.

Speaker 86 They need to have violated the terms of their visa.

Speaker 17 You can't do it because they spoke out about a war in the Middle East or they attended a protest.

Speaker 99 If they were violent, if they were doing things that violate laws, it is a different story.

Speaker 56 If they attended a protest

Speaker 136 and they're being deported,

Speaker 99 come on.

Speaker 127 As somebody who makes a living saying whatever the hell I want, how could I be behind that?

Speaker 223 How could anyone be behind that?

Speaker 126 Are these kids annoying? Yes.

Speaker 39 Do we hate them? Sure.

Speaker 6 Probably. I don't know.

Speaker 39 Some of them are okay.

Speaker 95 I've met some of them.

Speaker 85 You know?

Speaker 94 I just think that like we got to be careful.

Speaker 85 And I know that everyone hates Harvard.

Speaker 17 Nobody's going to feel bad for Harvard and no one should.

Speaker 33 But I don't think we should be ripping kids out of school because Harvard, because we're in a pissing match here with Harvard and Trump hates Harvard.

Speaker 128 And Harvard's refusing to dime on these kids.

Speaker 135 Who could respect an institution that's just going to dime on all these kids, by the way?

Speaker 100 Unless they committed crimes and did things like that.

Speaker 60 And if somebody committed a crime at Harvard, if somebody punched somebody at harvard or kicked someone or whatever i don't know it's probably in the courts it's probably a legal matter i would guess you might guess

Speaker 90 but i don't think we should just be going around and throwing

Speaker 20 people

Speaker 62 out of our country because they disagree with another country

Speaker 85 It shouldn't work.

Speaker 111 And am I Heiling Hitler when I say this?

Speaker 8 Is that close to Heiling Hitler? That's not what I meant.

Speaker 17 I'm just freezing there.

Speaker 56 But I mean, that's, but see how easy it is to Heil Hitler?

Speaker 34 Why are we looking at that?

Speaker 114 How literally easy it is to Heil Hitler?

Speaker 128 People Heil Hitler three or four times a day don't even realize it.

Speaker 33 Anytime, hey, Frank, you did it.

Speaker 43 You Heil Hitler.

Speaker 35 So

Speaker 120 I think we all need to just stop

Speaker 81 yelling at each other for five minutes

Speaker 24 and let it be

Speaker 78 let it be we've got we we got to unite against AI and all this stuff it's not gonna work

Speaker 119 it's not gonna work if we keep yelling at each other it's not gonna work

Speaker 75 it's not gonna work people just have to fucking

Speaker 78 you know just move on

Speaker 23 That's the thing. All these things we talked about in the beginning of the show.

Speaker 78 You just got to move on.

Speaker 75 The protest, they're done.

Speaker 12 Move on.

Speaker 39 Diddy, it it was bad.

Speaker 207 Move on.

Speaker 131 They're all coming back.

Speaker 85 Everyone's coming back.

Speaker 60 Don't focus for too long on anything.

Speaker 109 What's coming

Speaker 124 is so

Speaker 6 unbelievable.

Speaker 73 And you're going to need a lot of your senses to just deal with that.

Speaker 109 And AI.

Speaker 91 Maybe it's already sentient.

Speaker 33 We're going to talk about that next week.

Speaker 27 But like all of these things

Speaker 72 are such

Speaker 85 hugely pivotal moments that are going to reshape society forever.

Speaker 127 Let's not get lost in college protests or what Ellen did, you know, why Ellen's interns are all missing.

Speaker 95 Doesn't matter.

Speaker 76 It doesn't.

Speaker 113 You're going to need Ellen.

Speaker 101 You're going to need Ellen to fight AI.

Speaker 12 You're going to need her.

Speaker 26 We got to harness the power of people like her to fight this thing.

Speaker 208 I'm telling you.

Speaker 71 And we can't be just being rats.

Speaker 58 It's not the kind of country we should have.

Speaker 131 We shouldn't be a country

Speaker 25 that celebrates rats and encourages more people to become rats.

Speaker 38 It was one of my least favorite things about COVID.

Speaker 88 They had a party and I saw them at the park and I'm like, stop being a rat.

Speaker 86 It's not good for the United States of America.

Speaker 35 And

Speaker 94 if Miss Rachel wants to promote Hamas, let her do it.

Speaker 113 Let her do it.

Speaker 72 So what? She's in Hamas.

Speaker 65 It doesn't mean the show is bad.

Speaker 82 It doesn't mean the show is bad.

Speaker 27 It doesn't mean the show is bad just because she's in Hamas.

Speaker 62 This segment on the Miss Rachel show is incredibly controversial.

Speaker 48 And we wanted to show this to you because it is deeply sick and the song is going to disturb a lot of people.

Speaker 36 We have to play it.

Speaker 33 Even though it is Hamas propaganda.

Speaker 58 This is what is going on right now on children's television.

Speaker 58 We're so tired.

Speaker 55 Sleepy, sleepy, kill the Jews from the river to the sea.

Speaker 79 Palestine

Speaker 44 will be free.

Speaker 42 All glory to the martyrs.

Speaker 42 Wake up little bunnies

Speaker 30 Globalize the intifada globalize the intifada globalize the intifada time to kill the jews

Speaker 30 globalize the intifad globalize the intifada globalize the intifada globalize the intifada time to kill the jews

Speaker 30 I think that's pretty sick on on children's television.

Speaker 83 It's pretty sick.

Speaker 142 Hi, I'm Martine Hackett, host of Untold Stories, Life with a Severe Autoimmune Condition, a production from Ruby Studio in partnership with Argenix.

Speaker 150 This season, we're sharing powerful stories of resilience from people living with MG and CIDP.

Speaker 156 Our hope is to inspire, educate, and remind each other that even in the toughest moments, we're not alone.

Speaker 159 We'll hear from people like Corbin Whittington.

Speaker 164 After being diagnosed with both CIDP and dilated cardiomyopathy, he found incredible strength through community.

Speaker 177 So when we talk community, we're talking about an entire ecosystem surrounding this condition, including, of course, the patients at the center that are all trying to live life in the moment, live life for the future, but then also create a new future.

Speaker 187 Listen to Untold Stories, Life with a Severe Autoimmune Condition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you you get your podcasts.

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