The Valeria Revolution with Valeria Lipovetsky: Wednesday, June 4th, 2025

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Welcome back to the Toast Jackson Friends Wednesday hump day.

I am joined by Valeria Lipovetsky.

Thank you so much for being here.

Thank you for having me, and you pronounce my name so well.

Thank you.

I pronounce everything wrong, like as a rule.

I don't intend to do it.

I just like pronounce it how I see it.

But your name is very phonetic.

It's pronounced the way that it's spelled.

That really works for me.

You'll be surprised how many times and how many versions of it i've heard before so thank you what do people say valerie valerie potatsky like there's missing words letters like there's a lot of things i understand okay well yay gold star for me i finally got it for you

i'm so excited that you are here you are a massive creator youtuber tick tocker instagrammer podcaster.

I actually first discovered you through your podcast because I feel like everyone has probably seen your face on their feed at some point because your clips like go really viral.

You also create a lot of viral content.

And now you also do the creator method, which is like an online class to teach creators how to become creators.

Yeah, it's like a community that we put together, basically giving all the tools and all the information that I've learned throughout the years.

Because I don't know about you, but when I started on social media, it's like it still is.

It feels so lonely and there's no one to talk to and there's no really peers that you can, hey, how much do you charge for this?

Hey, how much did you make here?

So we just kind of became that place for a lot of creators and aspiring creators.

How long have you been doing the creator method?

It's been a year.

So we just celebrated a year of the community kind of coming together.

And it's been really rewarding.

And, you know, it started as like, oh, it's going to be this courses and whatever, but it actually became much larger than that.

It's very much of a members' club where they can network, collaborate, ask questions.

We're there.

We're constantly bringing kind of new people in in terms of experts in the industry and things like that.

So just became like a fun little

community.

Yeah.

That's not so many, actually.

Yeah, no, no, no.

Humble.

She's so humble.

I want to ask you more about that, but I do want to know more about your genesis into content creation because I feel like you have accomplished.

How old are you?

I'm turning 35 in September.

You have accomplished so much.

Like you have so many businesses.

You have three children, three boys.

Three boys.

And how old are they?

12, 10, and 6.

I feel like people will be so shocked to hear that who don't know.

And I feel like so many people might even follow you and not even realize that about you.

Well, I have to say, when I started with social media, motherhood was a huge like at the forefront of my content.

But as my kids got older, I kind of moved away from it just to give them space.

So yeah, you'll be surprised how many people have been following me that don't even know how big the boys are.

Yeah, there's three of them.

They're so young.

And you have a 12-year-old.

Yeah.

That's so crazy.

But it's amazing how much you take on and how much you can do.

And you're also really transparent about like burnout and feeling like you don't give, like you're not doing what you should be doing.

And it's so hard.

This conversation comes up a lot, obviously, like as just women in general, but I feel like I've been having it more often of like timing and kids and career and like when is the right time to put your career a little bit on the back burner because things do suffer when you're prioritizing something else.

Yeah, I think the biggest challenge for women is to understand that you can have it all just not at the same time.

So the timeline, we're fighting against a traditional timeline, our, you know, biological, biological timeline.

And then the opportunities that are out there now for us, because you want to, you know, you can, you have access to do everything that you want to do.

So it's very disorienting, I have to say.

Yeah, it is, but you're crushing it.

Listen, some days are better than others.

Yeah.

No, no, no.

So how do you go about a typical day?

Like, how do you devote how much time you want to do to like content creation?

Because you also do, in addition to like running your business and doing a podcast, which is called Not Alone, which like speaks to what you were talking about of the loneliness of content creation, you also create like a lot of viral like reels.

I'm not on TikTok, but I'm sure it's like TikTok-y.

content.

Yeah.

That stuff that you post on reels.

And thank you for posting it on Instagram for those of us who aren't on TikTok.

I know.

I try to be very inclusive when it comes to all the content.

How do I run through it?

I mean, honestly, I have a team behind me and I think that people don't realize how how much support, like I really over-index on support, and that's something that I had to learn the hard way.

Speaking of burnout,

I feel like I did a classic mistake of most women where like we just take it more and more upon ourselves and we can do it better than anyone else.

And let me just figure this out.

And I crashed really badly, and it was like a big wake-up call when my husband, Gary, who's also my business partner, came to me, and he's like, there's no novelty.

in you running yourself to the ground.

Like you're not going to be walking around with metal stars.

And I was like, oh yeah metal stars gold stars they're metal uh and i was like metal no metal oh metals yeah god okay both they're both words the rain today is messing up with my english so forgive me but uh but yeah and to me was like oh you know what you are so right i don't know why i'm doing this so started really learning how to delegate and and hire and you know reinvesting in the business and it's been it's been amazing so i feel like the way my week is built is based on all the kind of aspects of my business and my life like mondays are admin days you know tuesday content wednesday whatever also keep a day for me to just like sit and stare at a wall right i think that's so important it is i just need to let my thoughts go wild and run free and that kind of feeds into the creative in me.

Yeah, you have to recharge your battery because all of these ideas like come from within.

But if you're only ever working, then like you don't have time for for new ideas yeah i really want to i want to do less that's like my new goal in life i want to do less i want to really learn the art of just like being yeah even yesterday i had a conversation with my husband because i came with to him with this like new crazy idea and he's like it's not you're not being practical i'm like that's not my fucking job you're supposed to be practical right i need to be free you're the free spirit and the creative yeah don't stop me yeah but that works so you work with your your husband and he's very much like the facts and figures.

Yes, very data-driven

and it really balances off.

And I'm trying in the beginning of my entrepreneurial journey because he has more kind of business background.

So he knew how to, you know, really put this together.

But for me, I'm a baby entrepreneur.

This is my first business.

So when I was learning how to build this and navigate my own entrepreneurial personality, I was trying to do similar things to him.

Like I was watching him being like, I need to learn how to do these things.

And I've realized that that's not the power of women in leadership.

Like there's obviously certain things that you need to have, you know, practicality, whatever.

But part of our strength is really like the emotional intelligence and that place of like really bringing in the creative, you know, and coming up with this idea.

So I've am learning how to make more space for that.

That's like my superpower as an entrepreneur.

No, that's good.

And I feel like that's a lesson that you do have to learn the hard way and like comes over time.

Yeah.

Because when you're first starting out, it's like, well, I don't want to do less.

I want to do more.

Like,

you know, that's the HASA mentality.

Yeah, that's a mark of success, too.

And like, you do have to do the most to get to a certain place.

And then you can look down from the top of the mountain and be like, okay, what, what do I want to water and like focus on?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Exactly.

So here we are.

Here we are.

So that's, that's the era you're in.

That's the era I'm in.

The do less era.

But reap the most amount of benefit.

Yeah, no, that's a skill in itself.

So it's and I feel like I reached that point because the first, like I've been doing this for eight years.

Okay.

And

you have to grind.

You have to really put in the extra, extra work.

You have to go through the burnout.

Like all these steps are part of the process.

And I feel like now I reached this point where I'm like, okay, now I can like step back a little bit.

I have system in place.

You know, there's, I know what I'm doing.

So I can take a breath now.

Yeah, so how did you get your start?

So for me,

it started with actually a blog.

Well, actually, I'll take you a little bit back.

I came from modeling.

So I started doing modeling at 15, 16, and had the opportunity to travel the world, you know, make money.

It was a wonderful experience.

Met my husband, got married at 21, and I've realized that I want to start a family.

I don't want to do modeling anymore.

So I asked myself, okay, what am I going to do next?

The next thing that was really interesting to me was nutrition.

So I went to learn nutrition and when I finished school, I was like, I'm going to open up an office.

Opened up an office, hated seeing people.

And I realized early on that I'm not a like one-on-one person at all.

So I have this knowledge.

I want to help people.

What do I do?

I went on social media.

I started the blog.

It's called the Mott.

It was called The Modern Fox.

And it was 2017, I would say.

I did that for a little bit, realized that it's not challenging at all, like didn't really stretch my creativity.

So I found YouTube and I was like, okay, this looks really scary, but also fun.

Yeah.

So I started there.

And it was just, in the beginning was nutrition, then it got into vlogging, then beauty, fashion, you know, naturally kind of seeped into other areas of my life.

And did you have a moment where you really like growed exponentially or was just like slow over time?

Was there like a platform that you went to that sort of catapulted?

YouTube was my first platform that I really focused on.

So it really brought me that really engaged audience that was very invested in my content.

And I think that was like the best foundation for me.

Then I moved to Instagram and kind of learned how to navigate that.

But

it took me years of experimentation.

Like it wasn't this viral, you know, right off the bat.

And the biggest shift happened, I would say, during COVID because we were locked in the house.

And I was just, I woke up one morning when they locked everyone in.

And I was just like, I have a purpose.

I need to use social media to make people feel good.

And I just went ham.

Like, I don't remember that time because I was filming in my room 24-7.

That's such a good use of time.

It was insane.

But I truly felt like this is my calling right now.

Like, this is how I'm supposed to show up.

So I started doing Instagram lives every day.

I was doing workouts.

I was just living online.

It was insane.

I look back and I'm like, who was that animal?

No, I know, but that's what it takes to like get to where you are now.

Yeah, you were, yeah, I was obsessed.

So when did you start your podcast?

So the podcast started about a year, a year and a half ago.

And I had a rough start with the podcast.

What's your thoughts on podcasting?

Well, first of all, if I'm being honest, I walked into this being like, I've been doing social media.

I know how to be on camera.

Like, no problem.

And when I sat down, I got humbled so fast because it's a completely different platform different kind of delivery and I've realized that I don't know my voice in a long form yeah like I can do a you know quick 15 seconds no problem but sitting there for an hour

What was the format of your show when you started?

The format of my show was very complex because the Virgo in me was like, let's just give so many layers to make it feel so valuable.

So it was a guest and then in between the guests was a monologue.

No, I made it so complicated.

Yeah.

It was this whole like, you're in my head type of thing, you know?

Got it.

It did not work.

And it was also exhausting to do.

No, it's a lot of work.

And I think a lot of people who are on social media are like, okay, well, duh, I'll do a podcast.

I like to talk.

I'm on camera.

Like my personality.

But then you don't realize it's actually much like,

it's almost like simpler and more complicated than that.

Oh, yeah.

And especially when it comes to the conversation, conversation, like it is meant to just be like simple and interesting.

You don't have to be like doing the most for an hour.

Yeah.

So I am known for doing the most until I realized that if it's not broken, don't fix it.

Obviously, there were enough podcasts out there to show me that you just need to come and just have a conversation.

Yeah.

To me, it was like, that's not enough.

I need more.

So I did all that and I kind of sat with myself listening to these episodes.

And I'm like, this is a train wreck.

So season two, we pulled back and really went back to basics, but it is a journey.

And I have such a newfound respect for podcasters.

Like you guys have been doing such an amazing job for all these years to really be able to come on and speak in the most like open, raw way.

It's not so simple as people think.

Yeah.

Cause you get into your own head.

Yeah, no, it's true.

And everyone thinks like, oh, I could do a podcast and go ahead, try.

Like it's not, it's not so simple.

But when you get it right, like, it's really so enjoyable for people and to do it yourself and like put that side of yourself out there.

I feel like even the way I think about my own social media, it's like I'm my most myself on the podcast.

Like I have to take my time to say what I'm thinking.

I can like work through a thought.

I don't have to like make a statement in 60 seconds and there's just no context.

Like you can tell a story.

You can take your time.

Like you could just go on tangents.

That's just how my brain is.

But do you feel that was from the beginning or did you build that or to that?

I feel like in the beginning, the podcast, and probably just like you said, the p uh, like we were, when we started, I was maybe 25, I think, and Claudia would have been 23.

And I felt like, I feel like the podcast was more a reflection of our like social media personalities.

Just like really like, but I think our social medias have changed over the years and being like more paired back and curated almost.

And the podcast has just widened too and just is like deeper.

But that's also a function of us growing up and becoming mothers and just like the conversations are deeper and we were having like so much fun in the beginning and and it it's always been fun and it's always been

like pretty successful and popular but i just think like the range of it has changed Yes.

Also, I have to mention, you made such a good point.

When you become a mother, like my kids especially, right, they're 12, 10, they watch what I do.

Their friends watch what I do.

Really?

So not only am I in my own head, I also have all these children in my head.

Yeah.

So whatever I say, I gotta think, like, is it gonna embarrass my kids?

Is it something I'm gonna regret?

I hate it.

Yeah, that's a tough dynamic.

My kids are so really little small.

Say all the stuff you have in your head right now because it's gonna become filtered.

No, I don't even know what would what will change about what I filter.

Like I can't even predict it, you know?

Yeah, but I'm sure there will be things where I'm like, okay, that's not my favorite.

I don't want the teacher to hear that.

Like, I know.

That's really crazy to think about.

So that's where I'm at.

Just like all in my own health.

There's so much going on in your head.

So, much going on.

But yeah, but I wake up every morning being like, okay, go out there and just say what's in your mind.

And

that's working for you.

Sometimes it's work.

Yeah, sometimes.

Yeah.

So I'm sure you get this question all the time.

Like, what advice would you give to someone who wants to start out?

Like, what is your number one piece of advice?

I mean, I think that everyone needs to get very comfortable with having a long experimentation phase because I think so many people, when they start, whatever project you pick up you kind of assume that you're gonna just get it yeah and

you're missing the most vital aspect of the journey which is making a fool of yourself putting out a version of yourself that you're like looking back being like ah that's not really me and then tweaking it yeah and trying different formats and figuring out it's a lot of play to see what sticks even for yourself it took me many years to find my voice So

so many people are trying to skip that time.

And I always say like, don't rush to get discovered.

Trust me.

That's not you want to figure it out before you get discovered.

You don't want to be figuring it out when you have so many eyes on you.

But I feel like people are just like, I want the eyeballs.

All you guys always sees like these

are coming out of nowhere, right?

Yeah.

But and some, and listen, there are cases like that for sure.

But for longevity, you want to do the opposite.

Yeah.

And like, what advice do you have?

When you started out, do you ever feel like the people who know you, who are like watching you, who are like, I don't know, know, Facebook friends, or just like people you went to like high school with that are like watching you doing content?

Like that's the weirdest dynamic to me

that I just sort of have to disassociate and be like,

yeah, whatever.

That's not me.

Like I got to do my thing.

Well, that's what also threw me off in the beginning because it was like, what is me?

What is not me?

What am I sharing?

Because I don't want my neighbor to know these details about me, but I don't mind if strangers know this about me.

Right.

No, it's so weird how it's like you feel more comfortable with strangers.

But it's like, I wouldn't tell this to my neighbor.

Correct.

So there was definitely a lot of figuring out there.

But listen, you heard all the remarks, all the like, oh, what you're doing is so cute.

And I'm like, yeah.

Whoa, you know, and you just got to soldier on because I did see the bigger vision.

Like I know what.

I understood what it could be.

But for me, it was more like breaking my own like limiting beliefs and my own barriers that I set for myself.

You know, so those remarks were just like like another example of if I'm going to continue to care so much about what people think, I'll never do anything in my life, right?

Whether it's this or something,

or open a business, whatever it is that I want to do.

Yeah, so I'm like, this is a project, and this is for me.

Like, I'm doing this for me, yeah.

Uh, so it has been probably the best, like, therapy, exposure therapy.

Yeah, it's true.

Are you, what were you like growing up?

Like, were you a shy person or like very outgoing?

So shy.

Like, if I really wanted to be seen, but I also hit at any opportunity

that was presented to me to like showcase myself.

Yeah.

Always felt like not very gray mouse, you know, like always felt like not good enough.

I don't know where it's coming from.

Yeah.

So weird.

But then do you still feel shy today or you've like pushed through it because you have to?

I don't think it's shyness anymore.

I think it's sometimes these like feelings of imposter syndrome.

But I have to say, like now turning 35, it's really starting to shift.

Like, I really don't care.

Yeah.

No.

And like, you're so, you're, from an outsider's perspective, like, you're so not the imposter.

Like, you're the real deal.

Thank you.

Thank you.

But I'm sure you wake up some days and you're like, what am I doing?

Who cares about this?

Yeah.

Like, what?

No.

What mark am I living on, leaving on this earth?

You know, I think about these things, don't you?

I do, but then I also am so busy that it actually saves me from like a lot of like doom scrolling, reading comments.

like some days I just I don't have the time to read all the negative things that people have to say and it's wonderful like it's better that way but do you ever just glance at it and is it alarming for you when there's no negative comments

interesting I feel like I do glance like I do read probably majority of like comments that come through on like my own forums um and I just feel like I know what haters will say so it's like

it's not alarming if they happened to get busy that day and they didn't say it.

Like I know they're still lurking.

They're like, they're just busy today.

They don't back to it.

And I'm happy for them because they should get busy.

And then maybe they'll move on.

I think I don't have enough haters.

Do you have haters?

I think I do, but I feel like mine are

too busy to leave comments and it bothers me.

Oh, do you think they're like hating like in their group chat?

Like they're not like hating publicly.

They're like, you know, with their friends hating?

I don't know.

Or maybe just with themselves, but I just want them to be part of the community.

Like, show

for engagement.

They really are.

I just also think it's a good sign that you are evoking different type of emotion.

You know what I mean?

It's also, maybe it's the stage that I'm in, but I've always, like, my whole life, I really wanted to be liked.

And now I realize that it's...

It's like making me very vanilla operating in that way.

Yeah.

So I'm like, okay, I want to make sure that there's enough

spice in there so someone will, you know, get motivated to write something.

Yeah, no, to like have any sort of like feeling, good, bad, otherwise.

Like it's, it's more interesting that way.

I was just talking to another influencer on Monday who came and did the show and she said the same thing.

She said she's like almost she like for a while was like operating so scared to offend or like, you know, say something wrong.

So she's like put herself in this box that's boring and she's not like having the fun that she wants to have.

And she's like, I'm not doing that anymore.

Like I'm going to be me.

She's starting a YouTube like she wants to get her voice out there and I think it's so things are so much more interesting that way I feel like even as a fan of other influencers like I'm a bigger fan when I see really what you're made of not when like you're hat on high and everything's good like when times are tough who are you exactly yeah so Time will tell.

I'm working on it.

Okay.

Okay, but just, you know, I don't think you're vanilla.

I think you're crushing it.

And I think you are setting a great example for women that you really should, that you can like be a boss.

you can work with your husband, you can work with your family, you can have three kids, and I don't know what's going on in your head, but like it looks like things are going on.

There's a lot going on, but all good things, honestly.

At the end of the day, for me, as long as I get to wake up every morning and feel challenged and always kind of feel like this a certain level of discomfort, that to me is a good sign.

Yeah.

Like, I don't want to feel too relaxed, you know what I mean?

So I'm there.

Yeah, no, you're there.

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How many languages do you speak?

Three.

And you are born in Russia, correct?

Yeah.

And when did you move from Russia?

When I was two.

I left Russia when I was two.

And you moved to Israel?

Yeah.

How long did you live in Israel?

Until the age of 20.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

And that's where you started modeling?

Yes.

Oh, cool.

I can see you being Miss Israel.

I was in Miss Israel.

Okay.

But But I, yeah, I started working in the industry there.

And then right after I started traveling, my first trip was Paris.

And then it was Tokyo for a month and a half at 16 by myself.

It was amazing.

Do you have siblings?

Yes.

I have a younger brother and an older brother.

Oh, nice.

Are you close with them?

Yes.

That's so fun.

And now you have all boys.

I'm from All Girls.

And now I'm having so far I have two sons.

I'm expecting a boy.

A third boy.

Oh, my God.

Welcome to the club.

Yeah, now no, I'm excited.

I'm really excited, but it's been such a change for me.

Like, I only grew up with girls.

I like never met a boy until my husband.

Right.

I truly feel like God really gave me exactly what I needed.

I wouldn't know what to do with a girl.

And I actually

have...

I'm in awe of my friends that have girls.

I think that's a whole other set of skills that I'm not sure that I have.

Yeah, no, they say that like boys are really physically challenging and you'll be running around a lot, but like girls are very mentally challenging and it's just like mind games, especially as they get older.

Yeah, I also like the daughter, you know, mother type of dynamic scares me.

Like I have a healthy relationship with my mom, yeah.

But I've also seen enough of the unhealthy ones, and that's scary.

It is really scary.

So with boys, there's less of that uncertainty.

They love their moms.

Exactly.

Yeah.

And then at some age, it's like the dad comes full force.

Like my husband now is in his full like father, you know, disciplinary, raising men era for him.

So I'm just here like chilling my life.

Yeah.

I love that.

What was I, I was just going to ask you one more question, but it's escaped me.

So, oh, you married your husband young, which you shared, and you talk a lot about that.

What are your thoughts on getting married young?

So just because we were talking about it yesterday with another co-host who got married young, a lot of common themes here this week at Jackson Friends.

Did you pick us like for a reason?

Well, I picked all of like the most premium Miami influencers.

But no, these topics like come up a lot.

Just talking to like women, working women, a lot of women who are married.

I actually think you're the first guest that I've had since I started this maternity leave that has kids.

So like that's really a nice window into new conversation for me.

Yes.

With marrying young, I mean, it's different kind of.

I have a few different point of views here.

So I married Young, but I also married someone older.

So he made, you know, he had his life experience.

He did whatever he needed to do.

When we met and decided to get married, very rooted, strong foundation.

And

you need that to me.

Like I, I can't imagine marrying young with someone who's at the same age.

Yeah.

Because you are going through so many versions of yourself that I don't think that I'm, especially for a woman.

I don't know if a young man can withstand that because he's on his own going through his own kind of, you know, process.

Yeah.

So there's a lot of things at play here so i'm happy that i married young but that he was older yeah no that's a good point because if you're each changing then the odds that you wind up being both people that want to stay together and love each other still are smaller than if like one person is like settled constant like knows who they are and like you get to figure yourself out yeah and i i they also you don't have certain conversations that um are very vital you know for life he your older husband is like sort of moving the relationship forward given his exactly exactly so he knew and I always remind him I'm like hey is here's another like valeria revolution coming like I can feel it

the valeria revolution title the valeria revolution is coming 35 is going to be a shit show for him and he knows it and I'm just like just you know be grounded patient I'll be back what do you think 35 is going to be like for you so I have I've been doing this research out there every time I sit with women i always ask them um what age do you remember yourself usually older women like what is such a clear vision and most of them say 35 36 like i don't know what it is but even for me when i think about my mother i remember her at 36.

interesting so something happens there Okay.

And I'm about to find out.

So I'll let you, I'll keep you posted.

Yeah, keep us posted and you'll podcast about it and you'll let us know.

I'll keep you posted.

But but yeah, there's something is happening and I'm very excited for it.

So Gary, brace yourself.

Well, you know what?

They say that you change completely as a person every seven years.

And so if that's true, then 35 is the fifth cycle of seven.

Like it's divisible by seven.

So like you're going through another change.

Yeah.

And maybe it's like the big one.

How old are you?

32.

Did you

have a Saturn return?

At 27.

I only know what that is from music, but I don't know know what it means.

Because like Ariana Grande sings about her Saturn coming in, Casey Musgraves, I'm like, Oh, the big philosopher.

And it's like, oh,

the big philosophers.

Can you explain to me what it is?

Okay, so I'm sorry.

That's it.

That is the theme song for it as well.

I can.

I don't have the right maybe explanation, but what I've experienced was that at 27, for me, it started 27, 28.

I also had my third at 28.

So So that was a combination of both hormonally falling apart and healing, and then that.

It just felt like you look around and you're like, who am I?

What is this?

Where do I belong?

Like, just really big questions that kind of catch you out of nowhere.

Yeah.

And it's very much of a mind game because for me, I was in this position where I'm married.

I just had my third child.

Like everything looks amazing, feels good, yet it doesn't.

So there's this disconnect to yourself.

So it's kind of like a journey of really reevaluating everything you thought about yourself and like finding new definitions.

You know what's funny?

So I got married when I was 26.

So now thinking about like what I was doing at 27, I do think that I had a big like shift in my mentality.

But at the time, maybe it was because my Saturn returned.

At the time, I thought it was because of like my circumstances.

Like that was COVID for me.

And it was just like a year of just like figuring out what I think and like how I feel about things.

And I felt like I got stronger stronger in like my sense of self.

Yeah.

And I thought it was just because you know, it was a long year, but maybe because my Saturn returned.

I'm telling you, you're asking big questions, but you also get, you get curious and you're open to me.

No, that's what it is.

That's when it all started for me.

That's my origins for me.

There you go.

So mine finished at like 32.

I had a long one.

I feel like I'm still in mine.

I do.

I feel like I'm on the tail end.

But yeah, this all started when I was 27.

I'm telling you, it's fascinating.

And then you're going to have a couple of years where you can kind of like chill a little bit.

Okay.

And then we go again.

And then we go again.

But you don't know what the next genesis is yet.

No.

You're about to find out what we're going to do.

I'm about to find out and I will share it with the world.

Okay.

Thank you so much.

I'm so excited.

No, but it's the best, apparently.

It's the best one.

I don't know.

There's some, I heard 50s is really like,

well, the Kardashians say 40s.

Your 40s are the best.

That's what Kim and Courtney have said.

And like, now Chloe's 40.

Do you watch Kardashians?

No.

But you know what I love about Americans?

And I'm, I mean, I aspire to be an American.

We're on green cards, so like, I can't wait to become

the American Valeria.

But what I really love is the references that you're giving me.

You know, like you're mentioning Saturn Return, like Ariana Grande is, you know, you're talking about these revolutions, the Kardashians.

It's so funny because, like, usually I have so many more references, but because we've just been talking about personal personal stuff, like, there's not that many, but like, in a given show, like, references out my butt, like, movie quotes, like, I'll just throw them in.

Song starts to be.

But I love that.

I love that.

Is that an American thing?

I'm very American.

I think so.

Yeah, but to me, I don't say it as like a negative thing.

I think it's so easy to digest.

Yeah, I don't think of it when I say that.

I say it with proud.

I'm proud American.

Yeah.

I'm proud of you.

You're a proud aspiring American.

Yes.

Proud aspiring American.

And Canadian, Israeli, Russian.

Yes.

Anywhere else.

There's a lot of things going on.

No wonder I have these like.

Where's been your favorite place to live?

Here.

Yeah.

I love America.

Like, love America.

And I feel like people.

If the immigration office is watching, she loves America.

I love America.

Please give me my citizenship.

I think that we need to be more vocal about it.

Like, obviously, no country is perfect, but I am not.

People rag on American a lot, but there's also like a lot of really good things that people don't focus on.

Yes.

I don't think a freedom like this exists anywhere else in the world.

So

just air conditioning like this.

Correct.

That's true.

The air conditioning is really good.

Specifically in Florida.

Yeah.

Oh, well, we've had to.

We've really actually, I saw another country has really strong air conditioning.

Oh, I think it's Dubai has really good air conditioning.

Have you been?

No, have you?

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's like

a Vegas,

but

fancier.

Yeah.

Bigger.

Bolder.

That's what it is.

Great air conditioning.

Yeah.

And with great air conditioning.

They say, like, I think the bus stops are air-conditioned.

Yeah.

No, the order that they have there, I feel like that we need to crack the code there, like what they're doing there, and bring it here because the order is insane.

Well, because I was just watching, um, do you know, Caroline Stanberry?

She's from Railhousewives, um, and she lives in Dubai, but she was saying how there's like no crime there.

She like doesn't ever lock her door.

No one does.

You could leave a Rolex on a pool lounge and like no one would even come and pick it up.

Yeah.

Oh, what's haram?

So haram means is is like it's

like a crime, you know what I mean?

Like you're steal.

Yeah, like things that you, there's things that you do that haram that it's like, it's just very, it's against like the fate.

You're doing something bad, you know, and people are scared of it.

This is a lot of people.

I thought it was because they have harsh laws like and punishment.

But also it's a religious country and they have like val values, you know, like very strong values.

Haram is like a big thing.

Yeah.

But then yeah, also they kick you out and like you can never go in again.

So the probably the law is also yeah, it cuts both ways, but I think it's really good for like their crime levels.

No, it's it's it's wonderful.

And then she says when she comes here, she's all of a sudden like, what am I wearing?

Like my bat, you know, because especially, I think she was in New York when she was talking about this, Caroline Stanberry.

And it's like, yeah, well, yeah, New York is not that.

I know.

Yeah.

Sad.

We'll get there.

One day.

One day.

Let's see how it goes.

But now we're going to do the Fast Five stories.

I have great valeria-centric stories because I have a feeling feeling that you don't care like that much about American celebrities.

Yeah.

What are your stories?

I want to care.

Okay, teach me how to care.

No, the thing is, you get to a level of caring about celebrities and it's like this level of

enlightenment and then you like don't care because you see them too much.

You know what I mean?

Like you've seen too much.

So that's kind of where this show is at.

Right.

That you just, you don't care as much, but you know a lot.

We know a lot.

We care.

We care.

But then it's like you get to a point with certain people where like you just know too much about them and it's not interesting anymore.

So maybe this is a good place for me because

I don't care, but I also don't know.

Yeah, it's like we both don't care, but like for completely different reasons.

But I want to care a little bit because I tell you, I've been having certain conversations and people been, I don't know why this year, everybody's been dropping gossip girl references around me.

I've never watched it.

I don't know what they're talking about.

I feel like you would like gossip girl because it's very fashion.

The writing is good.

New York looks amazing.

I think you would like it.

Would you make a list for me

of like an American starter kit?

You know what else you need to watch?

What?

Desperate Housewives.

Have you heard of that?

The reality show?

No, no, that's real.

I wouldn't make that.

Oh, okay.

Desperate Housewives is, it was a scripted show on ABC.

It aired in like 2008.

Oh, yeah.

That was Eva Longoria.

Yeah.

Okay.

It's amazing.

Okay.

So gossip girl and desperate housewives.

Yeah.

I think you'll like that.

I think I can do it.

But do you think that will make me have relevant conversations today?

No.

No.

Not unless you're hanging out with me and Claudia.

For relevant conversations today,

I'm going to have to think about that.

Like I feel like, is there a forum that like people go on and they're just...

You know what you need to do?

Wow.

Like not to self-promote.

You need to listen to this show every day.

Okay.

Because we'll give you the news that you need to know and we'll give you like a take on it that you could just regurgitate even if you're like not really invested in the conversation.

It's like a download, just so you know.

Just a download.

Like, here's what's going on with Taylor Swift.

Here's what's going on with Justin Baldoni and Blake Live.

Like, have you heard about that one?

Oh, yeah.

Okay.

Okay.

Against my will, by the way.

Same.

Yeah.

So against my will.

The Kardashians, we love.

And yeah, you'll get like the news that you need to know with like also

like a fun spin on it.

Okay, let's go.

Even if you listen like once a week to the toast, because I find that people who do podcasts don't listen to them

like myself.

I don't really listen to a lot of other podcasts, unless there's like something like, oh, a tea spill.

Why don't you listen to podcasts?

Well, a few reasons.

One, when I have time to myself to listen to what I want to listen to and not be listening to the Spider-Man soundtrack, I want to listen to music.

I love music.

And I like, that's how I want to spend time in my car.

If I have headphones, I don't even own headphones anymore because when would I be using headphones?

I love to listen to music.

Then also, I feel like the podcasts that I I would be interested in that like cover subjects that I like are maybe similar to this show.

And I wouldn't want, when you listen to a podcast all the time, you like kind of start to talk like the most.

Exactly.

I wouldn't want anyone to do that.

A lot of influence from the outside.

Yeah, I wouldn't want to like start taking on anyone else's personality or like inadvertently or intentionally.

So that's another reason.

And yeah, because we do this, like.

We're very much in like pop culture.

Like we, like half my day is devoted to this.

Like I'm kind of good on that.

Yeah.

And the second half of the day, like I'll, I'm with my kids, but like if I have free time, like I like prefer to watch TV or read a book.

It's just not my medium of choice.

I feel like I don't listen for the same reasons.

I don't want to mold myself unconsciously into someone that I like to listen to because I feel like it happens naturally.

Yeah.

So I stay with you.

It does.

And it's like a nice thing, but not if you've got to have your own thing going on.

Yeah.

So that, but then if there's someone has a guest on, so like an interview where they're like, you know, spilling tea or whatever, I'll like, yeah, for one-offs, I'll listen.

If someone's talking about like something that their personal life and I'm like, oh, I'm a fan of them, I would listen.

So it just depends.

Okay.

Yeah.

But that's what I found with most podcasters.

So I know it's a tall task for you to listen to this show.

I can do it.

But if you're ever, if you're going to a dinner party with like people who like this stuff and you want to just like be in the know, hit them with like one episode of the toast will catch you up.

I won't be surprised if in my citizenship test, they'll be like asking questions like that.

And I'll be like, well, actually, I'm fully versed in it because of the toast.

Well, what's funny is we have a Patreon channel where we do like bonus content.

Every month, we do extra five episodes.

And we've done the citizenship test as an episode where we like both saw if we could pass.

So maybe you should listen to that one because we also like talk about the answers.

And maybe there are some good like.

ways to remember the answers.

Yeah.

Be like, well, Jackie said this or Claudia said that.

So that's a good way to study.

Okay.

For anyone.

And there weren't any pop cultures questions on the citizenship level.

Not unless like George Washington is a pop culture icon, which I think he is.

I think we should make him one.

I think we should.

Have you been seen those AI photos of the founding fathers?

Yes.

At what they would look like today.

Yes.

It's amazing.

Like seriously.

Have you seen the AI biblical videos?

Obsessed.

Like that's this is a technology and just like a format I can get behind.

I agree.

It's like wake up with me, a day in the life of a coal miner in the 1700s.

We're building Pittsburgh.

Yeah, or like when Moses separated the sea.

Yeah.

And people, like he's like, hey, friends, today we are starting the day with, you know, letting my people go.

He's like this.

He's like, hey, fam.

I know you've all been asking.

I like

today.

I like that too.

I've really been embracing AI because I feel like before it destroys us as a humanity, like we should enjoy it.

I think it's a state of mind.

If you look at all these advancements as something that's threatening your, existence, then I think maybe you're not seeing the potential.

I just feel like we need to over-index now on things that only humans can do.

Yeah, like podcasts.

We've asked AI to write like an episode of the toast.

Like, can you do one?

It's so bad, which is so good for us.

Okay, that's good.

That's good, right?

You can't be replaced by robots.

Emotional intelligence is not there yet.

Right.

Yet.

I don't know.

I really can't imagine a world where it would be, like, where I really want to get...

They haven't lit.

Like, this makes no sense to me listen I just want a robot in my house to do all the tasks that it's just a waste of time for me I want a neuralink chip in my brain for all the things I like think that I need to write down that I forget before I can write them down that would be so helpful they're working on Elon is working on it neuralink Watch the space.

And you put it in your brain?

They like implant the chip into your brain, which is like not my favorite, but the idea that there's something in your brain that can like record your thoughts that you want them to record to remind you later, or whatever it is.

But do you then worry about them using that information?

Yeah, for sure.

I would never do it.

Okay.

But, like, the idea.

But, like, so many times I'm in the shower.

I'm like, damn, I need a Neuralink.

I can't write this down.

Yeah.

You know?

Okay, Elon, get with it.

What kind of car do you drive?

It's a Mercedes.

It's this truck.

What is it called?

Oh, the G-Wagon.

Yes.

Oh, cool.

I know.

It's very basic, Miami.

Is it?

Is that the classic Miami car?

I would say so.

I see so many of them, which is also nice because it's nothing like unique.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's a cool car, though.

Yeah, and I have the older model, which I like.

I want a vintage car.

What would your next car be, do you think?

Like a little car?

No, it will never be a little car because I am a savage on the road.

So I need a big car to make sure everyone sees me and that I'm coming.

Where did you learn how to drive?

In Israel.

That should explain explain everything to you.

That's so funny, but you're probably a really good driver.

Like aggressive.

I think so.

Yeah, it's good to be aggressive.

Like, I have really good reflexes.

I'm just, you know?

Yeah.

So I feel like I can really navigate the roads well,

but I don't think a small car for me would do

this world a favor.

Okay.

Thank you for your service and your big car.

You need a cyber truck, even though that's actually also scary.

It gives me headaches.

Being in a Tesla?

Being in anything that Elon Musk created.

I don't know what's going on there.

Is the why?

I don't know what it is.

The EMFs, they say.

Yes.

But I drive a Tesla and I have my, like, I am someone who's prone to migraines my whole life and they don't give me headaches, which is just odd.

Apparently, there's like a little switch that you put and then it changes the way something operates.

I don't know what it is, and then you don't get headaches.

So maybe you did a little switch.

Maybe it's been on that setting.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So.

But I've heard that.

But also, like, the EMFs are really only when the car is charging, not when it's on the road.

Like, you shouldn't sit in the car when it's charging i think for me at this point it's a placebo effect like i've decided that teslas make me nauseous so that will be it forever for me well i just they're like as close as we got to a robot right now is why is why i mention it self-park

Do you use all these features?

No, I only use, I've used self-park like twice here because I don't know how to parallel park.

I've never done self-driving.

I only learned how to drive when I moved down here and I got my license two years ago.

So driving is just like,

it's a lot for me.

Did you feel like you just like

a new hole found freedom?

Superwoman.

There's nothing I can't.

You can't even imagine.

You can't even imagine.

Like I, so I grew up in the city.

Like, so when it would have been time to get my license, I never even took lessons or took a test because it's not like I was getting a car.

We just like, you know, used public transit or took taxis or Ubers.

And then I lived in the city until I moved here.

And there were so many times where like it would have been really nice to have my license.

Like in college, I went to college upstate New York, like, could never drive myself anywhere.

But then, when we moved down here, I'm like, I have to learn how to drive, like, I have to be able to just, even just in an emergency situation.

And now I drive.

Really proud of you.

Thank you so much.

It was the biggest

thing I've, like, I've ever had, one of the biggest things I've ever had to like do and overcome.

And it's harder as you get older.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

So you're like the opposite sort of driver as me.

I am the opposite sort of driver.

And to me, a lot, like, I couldn't wait to get my license license because I'm just I operate from a feeling of like

people are suppressing me and I just need all the tools yeah it's freedom it's freedom yes so um I am very like I'm in awe of you because I can't imagine learning it as like an adult yeah you just know too much you know too many of the dangers you're scared you have too much to lose like when you're 16 17 just like whatever you only have like to gain and it's like get me out of here exactly yeah no it's it's so so true so i'm glad that i'm glad i've checked that off my list what's next for you on your list oh there's something

gardening that's next for me crazy i know but like i hate buying herbs from the store i never have the ones that i need when i need them and the ones that i buy i don't use and they go bad so i just want to be able to pluck them from my garden i think you have a romanticized idea of it i don't think that's how it works

really explain i just feel like you go on this journey of gardening and you plant the seeds and they grow a little bit and then it dies and then you feel like a failure.

Like it's a much longer process.

Oh, well, I do intend to have upkeep, like help with my garden.

I won't be starting the garden.

I will be hiring someone to build me a full-blown garden.

And then you come to attend to it.

Well, that I want to learn how to attend to it, you know?

Right.

That I do want to know.

But no, I'm not going to be like waiting on my seeds.

Got it.

There will be someone else's seeds.

So it's a little bit flexed.

Like, I'm not going to be starting a garden from the ground up, but like, I want to be able to

water my garden.

You see, this is what I'm saying.

Like, America is so great.

Like, I want to garden, but I don't know.

I like Israeli.

They garden.

Yeah, but they do like the law.

They farm.

Yeah, it's like a whole thing, you know.

They treat it as like this art.

But here you can dabble.

It's true.

I dabble.

You dabble in things, you know.

What do you want to learn how to do?

What do I learn?

Oh my God, so many things.

I feel like I should be painting.

Okay.

I also feel like I should learn how to like take dance classes, like pole dancing.

Ooh.

Yeah.

Cause I feel like it will help with my upper body strength.

For sure.

Yeah.

And

what else?

I really wanted to do, what's the one when you go up and like it's open mic.

No, how do you call it?

Stand up.

Yeah, but improvise.

Improvise.

Like improv.

Yes.

You should do it.

I'm just really scared.

I have to still like build the

confidence.

That to me is the scariest job in the world, would be like being a stand-up comedian.

That's what I said.

We had a friend over and he's a stand-up comedian.

And I just looked at him and I'm like, I don't know how you go up there in...

a place of people that you don't know and you just start telling your jokes and it's quiet and then maybe one cackle somebody's like drinking you can hear them drinking the water like there's so many elements that i would just paralyze me.

I would run away crying.

No, I completely agree.

My sister Claudia does stand up.

And I could, like, I'm infinitely impressed by her.

She's done like two tours, and she's done it like in a really big way.

But I could never.

Just up there alone.

But did she ever have a...

Like, she's standing there telling the joke and the audience gives you nothing.

But the thing is, like, she sort of leapfrogged over that painful period because she started stand up when she had an audience, like a following already.

So like, she would sell tickets to a comedy club and all the people there are like people who love her.

And they know what to expect.

And they know like her, they know what to expect.

Like they're there and it's gonna most likely be good because like they have the same sense of humor and they know what to expect.

So that's a very privileged experience.

It's a very privileged experience.

But one day.

Just going out stage in a different, like in just a random bar and just start spitting jokes.

No, it's so crazy.

Oh my God.

Literally having an out of body experience.

No, it's so not.

So yeah, one day I'll do it and I won't tell anybody and then just go to like a random place and just start improvving.

Okay.

I'll let you know.

Let me know.

Let me know.

Maybe that's at 35.

That's what happens.

At 36, yes.

I'm going to come to my family and be like, guys, I decided to change up my career trajectory and become a comedian.

But it's actually in line with what you do.

Like if you wanted to be a comedian for real, like you have so many, so many of the platforms that you have like, would be so great for a comedy career.

Like they are, the digital space and comedy like really work nicely.

Go together.

But that's why I'm so passionate about creators and the creator economy in general, because you can do anything.

You know what I mean?

I want to be a comedian, I'll be a comedian.

I want to do something else.

I'll do something else.

I want to start selling candles.

I'll do that.

Like, you, there's no limits because you build your personal brand and people love you for you.

It's so true.

So, that's pretty magical.

Yeah.

Okay.

Well, we do have to get into the fast five stories 50 minutes later.

So, without further ado, dad, do that do.

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Our first story is a little reality TV news from last night because Love Island USA premiered season seven and the episode was set to drop on Peacock and it went up 40 minutes late, which is like so unacceptable.

I was planning to watch last night, but I was editing the Redheads and then I saw it was delayed.

So I was like, okay, I can get away with pushing it off one night.

So I will catch up tonight.

But.

Why were they late?

I don't know.

It's not like it's live.

That happens a lot with like Netflix live content, like the Love is Blind reunion.

Because I don't know why they want to.

I watch Love is Blind.

You do?

That's a good American show.

That's a good show.

And that's a really good way to get to know like different cities and the type of people who live in different cities.

I agree.

I enjoyed it.

I feel like there was enough intellectual tickle there for me to keep watching.

That's actually shocking.

If you liked that and found it intellectually tickling, you will have it a tickle.

Let's keep it a proportion of you.

Because every season they like drag out these conversations and the people aren't like the most interesting, but that's what makes a good candidate for the show.

If you watch the first, like just the pods and then the end, to me, that's me watching reality.

Like the in-between is where where they drag it and try to make a storyline, but there's no story usually.

Oh, to me, the pods are really painful to watch.

Like,

I have a cat.

You do, but I don't know.

But don't you?

But I sit there and analyze like human behavior.

Like her saying, I have a cat to see her body language and like what was her messaging behind this statement and then seeing the guy responds.

This is the tickle that I was looking for.

Oh, okay, good.

Yeah.

That's good.

I like the honeymoon phase,

the like like trip to Mexico or whatever where they see each other and it's like, is it good?

Is it bad?

That's so painful.

And then when they're like living in apartments, they drag that out a little bit, but in the beginning, it's kind of interesting.

But what do they do on Love Island?

So Love Island is really crazy.

So they're all in a house.

They have like five single girls, five single guys, but it's an island so you can get like sent home from the island if you're not making a good connection.

And they just they bring in like new people every day so you really you want to find a connection or you want the audience to like you to keep you on it's as much filmed in real time as a show could be like typically this episode that would have been premiered tonight like they probably shot it three days ago on set like they are there now and so the audience gets to vote alongside the show and probably by the end of the show we'll cycle through like 40 or 50 people but like some couples can really you know be but are there like love island graduates that stay together like is that a thing or not somebody asked do you know molly may

why would i know molly may i don't know because she i feel like of the people you would know you would know

maybe she knows so she is a uk influencer okay she came from love island she met her now boyfriend

there was drama recently but like they have a baby together tommy fury he's the boxer he fought jake paul you know jake paul yes yes okay so the lights turned on.

Yes.

Molly and Tommy came from Love Island.

They've been together ever since, except for last summer.

They broke up temporarily, but they have a baby together.

She has a fashion line called Maybe.

She's very, she has a docuseries on Amazon Prime.

She's like incredibly

doing the most.

Don't expect that from anyone else from Love Island.

Everyone else is like, you know, reality TV.

Like I have a podcast.

But she is just like catapulted.

And I, so I thought you might know her, but she did come from Love Island, UK, which historically is better and more popular than Love Island, U.S.

U.S.

has had a hard time getting off the ground, but last season was really popular.

And it's like the show of the summer because it's on four nights a week.

It's like constantly happening.

That's really fascinating.

You can't like passively watch it.

It's a lot of homework for you to start it.

You'd have to watch it like every night.

Can I watch recap on TikTok?

Do you feel like I'll get the hang of it?

I think, yes.

Okay.

I think you could watch recaps on TikTok.

I feel like you should have sent me this like as homework before I came here.

I didn't watch it either.

So how could I do that?

Because there were 40 minutes late.

Because they were 40 minutes late, but if I'm being honest, I don't know that I would have gotten around to it.

Redheads was really difficult to edit.

I do another podcast, a book club podcast.

Do you like to read?

I love to read.

What kind of books do you like?

I like very dense books.

It's either like

self-improvement or biographies I love.

I do fiction too.

Yeah.

I actually picked up my first fantasy book because of like peer pressure.

Which one?

Fourth Wing?

Akatar.

Saints.

It's like, those are the two big ones.

Yes.

Okay, so the first...

I didn't love Akatar.

I didn't love it either.

But I gotta tell you, I talked a lot of shit about it on my social media.

I finished the first book, committed to it, and I was like, meh.

And then I started the second book.

And it does get better.

That's what people say.

It's like, okay, well, you have to read for the second book.

I'm like, I'm not going to read a whole ass bad book so that it gets better for the second book.

Like, if you don't get so that's really time.

You got to be, you got to be committed.

Yeah, I read 50% of the first book, but then I think I went into labor.

So then I was just like, I'm not going back to this book.

Like, I'm a different person.

Fantasy world.

Yeah.

So, um, but I wasn't even enjoying it because if it was a book that I loved, I would have finished it.

I could finish it in a day.

Did you read any fantasy books?

I've read Fourth Wing.

And you liked it?

I loved the first Fourth Wing, and I did not like the second one.

And so I won't be reading the third one.

Like, they've lost me.

But that's okay because I don't feel like it's necessarily for me.

Like, it's for Gen Z and I was enjoying my time there.

But if I need to leave, like, you guys still have fun.

Yeah.

Oh, they're having the most amount of fun.

That's why I felt the FOMO and I'm like, I'll pick up this book because I want to have fun too.

And you've read it.

And I did not have fun.

And I didn't have fun either.

But the second book, I'm going through it.

It's spicier.

Okay.

And I don't even think I got to any spice in First Akatar because it was like, no, there was no spice.

It was, I was like, is this it?

Because this is a fairy popping up in every scene.

And I'm just like, enough with the freaking fairies.

Like, let's get somewhere.

But the second book, it gets there.

So we'll see.

But fantasy is one that I felt like I need to explore.

I'm still not there yet.

Yeah, I'm not big on fantasy.

What do you like to read?

I like to read historical fiction.

Oh, that's so good.

So good.

But I gotta a place where, like, some of it's a little silly.

And I'm like, I want the true story.

Like, I want just history, but that's too dense.

Like, I'm not going to go and read like Churchill's biography.

So, but it's like, I read a biography of Churchill's mother and I read the historic, like, I read, I forget the author who wrote it, but it was like her official biography.

The biography of Churchill's mother.

Yeah, was that so good?

It took me a really long time to read it, but I really wanted to get her story because it was a really interesting story.

And then I also read the historic, a historical fiction book about her, so it was like a girly swirly version of her story.

And like, so that would have been an easier way to get it.

But I did want to like hear from the primary source, like about her.

There was one that I read, it was about the fictional

wife of Jesus.

What was the name of that book?

That was a great book.

Let's find out.

It was good.

You would recommend?

I was in such a reading slump.

I know.

That's why I picked up the fantasy book.

Understood.

But now I'm in a deeper slump.

Right, right, right.

Pushed it.

And I'm sure you've read like all the classic popular books, like Colleen Hoover.

Oh my God.

You see, I can't get with that either.

Although it's not, like, it's not my favorite type of literature, but I do have to say it's easier to like get through.

Yeah.

It was the book called The Book of Longings.

Yes.

And it was good.

It was so good.

Okay, thanks.

Got a new book wreck.

Love it.

That one is amazing.

But yeah, I love books like this, but there's not a lot of them out there that can really marry like both facts and history.

Yeah.

And like really good storytelling.

Yes.

Without it like being silly or they start to like write in a way that's like people didn't talk like that back.

Like you're really editorializing it, and it's like makes it hard to stay in that time and place.

What's the worst book you've read recently?

Well, recently, the one that we just read for the podcast, it was a good book.

I wouldn't say it was a bad book.

I just didn't enjoy it.

It was too dense.

It was like a murder mystery.

It was like very Agatha Christie, but it was so complicated.

So I didn't love that.

It was called The Seven and a Half Deaths of Evelyn Hardcastle.

That's the Redheads book this month.

But you should listen to the podcast episode because it was so funny.

Like a series that almost beat my pants.

That's another thing.

The murder mystery thing.

Yeah.

A whole industry, a whole world that I found out about probably six months ago.

Do you like them?

I never listened to it.

I'm scared.

I don't know where to begin.

Like, it's such a completely different space for me.

And I also can't really imagine listening in the car about like a murder.

You listen in the car to both.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, that's nice.

Yeah, it's hard to like, you have to like be really dialed in.

Yeah, I've been trying to like have a tighter bubble around me because there's so many things going on in the world i'm just like i need to yeah no that's also why i like reading history too it just sort of gives context okay so love island so love island

with a great beautiful

book book well molly may did write a book and i did read it um was it amazing

No, because she's really young and like

it was before like really like it just talked about like her rise to fame, but it was like before

there wasn't that much to say, but I think people just wanted to hear from her, like me.

So it wasn't amazing, but it was cute.

And it was like exactly what you would think.

Okay, you see where I take conversations when you sit down with me to talk about pop calls.

You see where I take conversations?

It's literally an hour and we're not even through the first story.

No, because I don't, I don't know.

Okay, next story.

I love a tangent.

This show should be, we've said like it should be called the tangent.

We don't actually talk about the stories.

They're just like springboards for us to talk about what we want to talk about.

Okay, so don't feel tied down by the stories.

Okay.

However, our next story I did choose because I wanted to get your take because you, in addition to everything I've already said, you're also like a guru when it comes to like advice and relationships and finances.

Like you just give a lot of good advice.

And so

this story I thought would be interesting to get your take on because billionaire YouTuber Mr.

Beast, you know him?

Yes.

Confesses he's borrowing money from his mom to pay for his wedding.

So he admitted that he's borrowing money from his mom to pay for his upcoming wedding to his fiancé Thea, despite being worth an estimated $1 billion.

The YouTuber responded via X after a fan post described him as the only billionaire under 30 to not have inherited his wealth.

He said, I personally have very little money because I reinvest everything.

I think this year we'll spend around a quarter of a billion on content.

Ironically, I'm actually borrowing money from my mom to pay for my upcoming wedding lol.

But sure, on paper, the businesses I own are worth a lot.

So that's the first thing that came to mind.

He's leveraged.

And I think that's such a beautiful lesson for young people to also learn how to build a business.

Like he's still in building mode,

even though it's like a huge empire.

Yeah.

And I love it.

I think it's so, it's like a humble thing to say, you know, and be open about.

So you think that's a good finance move to like reinvest your money to the point where you can't pay for a wedding?

I think that,

well, I also think it's like a fun little

thing.

Exactly.

To keep him kind of in the news and the circulation.

But

yes, I think that it's so smart of him to continue building and reinvesting into his business.

I don't know how much his mother, I hope she'll be okay.

Yeah, how much is this wedding gonna cost?

I don't know.

I feel like he wouldn't have like a really extravagant wedding, but then I could also see it being really extravagant and then it like yielding more content and like more business for him.

Like it almost would be like a business moment,

in which case he could expense it.

I don't know, but I just ate at Mr.

Beast Burgers.

There's a I don't know how many restaurants?

I don't know how many restaurants he has, but we were at the American Dream Mall in New Jersey last week, and they had a Mr.

Beast Burgers, and it was like the only place you could get like grab and go.

So we had some grilled cheeses and it was like super cute.

I'm a fan of Mr.

Beast.

I'm a fan because I think he's doing a lot of really smart moves.

I agree.

I think he's interesting person to watch, even though I don't watch like, do you watch Beast games?

I don't watch any of it.

My kids were watching it for a little bit.

Yeah, like his his big videos.

That demo.

Yes, exactly.

And I think it's great and fun, very interesting type of content.

I see the amount of work he puts in there.

But I wonder if one day he's just going to like turn it off and just disappear.

Yeah.

I wonder if he can get it.

Like where does it go?

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Do your kids ever ask you to like use your clout to get them something?

Or like get them to meet someone?

They're like,

they don't think I'm like cool.

They're not like you should have Mr.

Beast on the pod.

No, absolutely not.

Or like get on Mr.

Beast PR list.

We were.

I'm on Mr.

Beast PR list.

I give it to my neighbors because they're that age and they think I'm the coolest.

No, I still, I don't know what I need to do in order to get my kids to understand how cool I am.

Who else are they fans of like the Paul brothers?

I feel like you could get a Paul on your podcast.

Well, I'm friends with Nina, who is so lovely.

So lovely.

I mean, I don't know her.

I watch the show.

Do you watch their show?

No.

So good.

You have to watch it.

It looks like a good show.

I think that they are such masters at what they do that everything that they put out there, they already know.

They engineer it.

No, they literally changed reality television with that show.

Like, Claudia and I are obsessed.

And now we're obsessed with them, even though we typically wouldn't be their target demo.

We love them.

It was such a smart move because they just had the baby and they're kind of like outgrowing, you know, the cohort that they built until now.

But to your point, they're bringing new people in like you.

Like, I need to watch this show.

I would watch that and and she's your friend yeah that's so fun because then you could text her and be like wait did Greg really say that like I would never that's always a fun angle even though like I we have like a lot of reality TV people or we used to have more guests come on the show and I do separate like personal friendships from what I'm watching on TV because I'm like yeah to me there's personas so I don't I don't mix yeah but she seems great she really is great so I am all for the Paul reality but my kids don't watch it got it okay cool I'm trying to insert like geography quizzes type of thing while I can.

You know what I mean?

I'm like, look at this.

This is so cool.

That is cool.

You know what I subscribe to?

I saw on Shark Tank.

I don't know if they would like this, but it was this company called History by Mail.

And every month they like send you...

like a replica of a piece of history, like a document or something really interesting, an interesting piece of like American history.

Oh, actually, it wasn't just American, it's global.

So, you know, it's for everyone.

Wait, that's a really cool idea.

It's a really cool idea.

So you subscribe to that?

I subscribe to that, and it comes once a month.

My kids are, obviously, I did it for me because I love history.

But when the documents come, they're like, what's this?

And then like, there's like stories and stuff.

And so it's really cool.

You see, this is what's cool for me now.

Do you watch Shark Tank?

That's so American.

My kids love Shark Tank, actually.

They watch it with my husband.

They love it.

That is classic.

I have to break it down.

That show, I'm so happy that it runs.

Like, that is one of the best shows that America produced.

I agree.

And it's such a good influence on society to show like anyone can do this.

So many of the people who go on the show now like watched the show growing up and were inspired by it.

10 out of 10.

It also shows you how you don't need to come up with some revolutionary idea.

Like I can't even tell you.

I saw one episode of this doctor that came up with a hiccup straw.

I talked about it for a week.

Did it help?

Hiccups?

Apparently he had a testimony of this girl that came up and said, hey, I hiccup all the time.

And when I use the straw, I stop hiccuping.

And it's like $7 on Amazon.

I'm getting it.

He's like a legit doctor.

The only thing is that was very, you know, the question was, do you always walk around with the straw in your purse?

No, it would be like at home.

If I have the hiccups while I'm out of the house, like, I'll just deal with it until I get home and then I'll get my straw.

Yeah.

So I, you see, I didn't think that a hiccup straw would be a hit.

Like, I wouldn't even think to invent something like that.

I wouldn't, I don't know if I would invest in it because it seems like very

niche.

Niche, but I would buy it.

Right.

And this is why we have the American Dream.

Yeah.

Okay.

Our next story.

Speaking of the American Dream, Kim Kardashian, she has launched a new Skims product that is set to be as viral as the Nipple bra.

They are launching ultimate hips by Skims.

They're designed with soft foam pads embedded at the hip to form an hourglass figure that accentuates a person's curves.

So they're pretty much like shorts that will give you

get rid of the hip dips.

But yeah, hip dips, but also like bring them out more.

So, like, you will look like you have a shape that you don't have, right?

Which optical illusion, an optical illusion.

I would, I, I would try, I wouldn't want to, like, that's not my look, but like, I would want to see how it looks on me.

Like, what would I look like?

I feel like it won't complement 90% of people.

Like, in my head, I don't see that happening.

Yeah.

But, did you see the you mentioned the nipple top, but there's one with the piercing.

I saw.

Is that the one you're referring to there's two there's one that's a bra that has a nipple on it so like you have nippleites that you wear it and then there's one and there's also one with piercings the fact talk about niche the fact that you see you know her team saw a gap in the market for it is what blows my mind yeah i think the nipple bra itself has been pretty successful it's been restocked a couple of times and actually like

it's found a loyal community of people who have had or have breast cancer and they've lost their nipples So like

it's been great for that community.

And I think it's like it's...

You see, there's an audience for everything.

There is.

The pierced nipple.

I just feel like if you want that look, why wouldn't you pierce your nipple?

I guess it's like a commitment that you don't necessarily.

A fun thing, like every once in a while on a night out.

I just think that, think about it.

You go out with that.

pierced nipple thing and you hook up with somebody.

Like, how does that conversation go?

Right, right.

Where he's like, where if he was like really interesting.

Right.

And now he's not interested.

I just think that's very deceiving.

False advertising.

I mean, same for like false fit hips.

Like, I wouldn't, I think there's going to be a wave of lawsuits coming from the people that got deceived by these products.

From the people themselves who bought them or got deceived.

Oh, like.

Got deceived by the products.

Yeah.

But I just feel like we're so, we're so in it now.

Like, I think there's fake butt shorts, like fake, now we have fake hips, even a padded bra.

You could have made that case like 20 years ago if someone's wearing padded bra.

That's so true.

I'm, I, I love the padded butt shorts.

You do?

Yeah.

That I like because I feel like it's aesthetically, not the big ones, the like very, just to smooth things out.

I'm into that.

So, you know what?

I'm kind of, I understand how people are buying into these things.

Yeah.

And I mean, I don't need wider hips personally,

but I could see like a person who would benefit from this.

And I guess, you know, she's there to serve.

But it's definitely going to be a phase.

Like we just, I think that we, as a society, just looking for the next viral thing.

And then there's some videos, people use it a little bit, and then we move on.

I do think half of this is marketing.

And then the other half is like actually catering to a mass market audience.

Which is brilliant.

Yeah.

No, she's doing a great job.

Like I wouldn't, I wouldn't doubt her.

Our next story, speaking of dating

and what you're looking for, Tinder is testing out a new height filter to help people connect connect more intentionally.

So, this is going viral because Tinder has been accused of superficiality after testing out a new feature that allows users to screen potential matches based on height.

This is part of a broader effort to help people connect more intentionally on Tinder, a rep for the dating platform, said.

The new vetting function is located in the Discovery section of the Digital Romance service and lets users specify the maximum and minimum heights of their matches.

The function will only be available to users who subscribe to Tinder Platinum, a premier subscription tier that starts at $39.99 a month.

Along with the new height option, the tier also includes prioritized likes, a specific interest filter, a message before you match function, and more.

Gosh.

It's a slippery slope.

It really is.

Because on one hand, I also understand that there's a lot of catfishing out there.

And, you know, for some people, it really matters.

The height matters.

Like,

if it's right or wrong, it doesn't matter.

That's their preference.

But on the other hand, I can't even begin to think how many lost connections potential amazing connections yeah that get lost within all these like not really important details yeah and I just feel like where does it end you know if this is like I feel like doing it's been usually like age

location like there have been filters that like are the set filters that like we're okay with even though you know technically age it's like you might actually connect with someone a little bit older and you might miss out on that but I do think this is really limiting I think people will

just like you can like geoengineer like your perfect person.

What soon we could do hair color?

I saw people being like, okay, well, let's do weight.

That's insane.

Could you imagine?

I also, as a mother of boys, I do often worry about how it affects.

guys in society because that's not something they can change for a girl it doesn't matter your height really but for a man it's such a big pain point and I love that we had that like short king kind of thing trending.

Yeah.

Let's keep that going.

But that to me is so much more that it's just harmful.

It is.

I don't think it's productive either.

I don't think it's going to like yield better relationships.

I think it's just going to encourage people to be superficial.

When I, I, I'm personally like very much like it's about the person.

I know everyone says that, but like I really believe that.

Like I'm not superficial when it comes to love.

I mean, you don't get into a relationship, especially a marriage, and hope to stay married for 30 years.

The height

is not going to be he's 5'9 and he's not 5'11.

Like the difference of two inches, you're gonna build a life over two inches.

God, I'm so happy I'm married.

I can't even imagine dating in today's time and age.

Yeah.

I wouldn't do well at all.

So you never were on the apps or anything like that?

No, there was no apps.

How did you meet your husband?

At a Shabbat dinner.

Oh, that's so wholesome.

Was it meant for singles or it was just coincidence?

No, it was just coincidence, just friends of friends.

It wasn't like a right away click it was something that you know gradually happen

but um it was very natural and there's no you know

there was no preferences to take yeah on or off because would you have thought that you would want to be with someone older no would you even have his have had his age on absolutely not how old was he when you guys met 37

yeah So you wouldn't have that wouldn't have been my age range at all.

So that's what I'm saying.

There's so many moments that you miss in life because of all these details.

yeah how did you meet your husband we met both through work and also we had matched on a dating app and so when i started at my new job and i met him he like told me that we had matched but we never went out or anything i never even saw that we had matched but it actually just helped move us forward quickly because it's like oh we are interested in each other

it was a green light for sure and so like everything happened pretty quickly after that if you could build a dating app today

what would you how would it look like i actually really like when I was on Hinge, how it was based was like it was through your Facebook, and you would only get matched with people

for the most part who you had at least one mutual friend with on Facebook.

And I feel like that, and then everything else you could do, like, you know,

radius and

age and whatnot.

But I feel like that's a really good way to meet people because even the people that I know who've met through dating apps, they do know at least one person in common, or they've met before through like network.

And I think that's a really good foundation for meeting someone.

I agree.

I love that.

You're part of a circle.

That already shows that you guys have some kind of connection, some kind of similarities.

You're around, you know, the same people.

Yeah.

I don't know if Hinge is still like that or what they do now.

But when I was on the apps and I was on a lot of apps, I went on a lot of app dates and I was just like really open.

It was definitely like the...

my preferred app.

I just felt like it had the most potential for like a lasting relationship, not just like a hookup or someone just like, yeah, you could have a good date, but like I have another date tomorrow.

Like,

who are you?

I love that.

Our fifth and final story: a little fashion news.

Britney Spears and Balenciaga are collabing.

Their debut collection includes hoodies and baseball caps selling for over $1,000.

So it's like limited edition Britney Spears merch made by Balenciaga.

It's like concert teas sort of thing, hats.

I have that t-shirt, by the way.

From Balenciaga?

No, from just her merch, I would say from 20 years ago.

Oh, so yeah, now they're remaking it for the people who need it.

You know what?

I don't, I think everyone should collaborate with her.

I want her to make money.

Like, please, just whatever, whoever's listening to this, you have a product or an idea, I'm sure she'll jump all over it.

Like, go for it.

I feel like we need, Brittany just needs justice.

She does.

And she needs endless money so that she doesn't have to worry.

Or dance online.

Or dance online.

But I feel like she doesn't do that for money.

I think that hurts probably her revenue opportunities.

I think she does that for the love of dance.

And

I don't know.

I don't know why she does it, but I just want her to be so rich that she can just

buy an island, turn it all off, and just live her best life.

She does that.

We owe it to her.

Yeah, I found this collaboration to be interesting, and I don't hate it, except I do hate Balenciaga.

Do you still shop Balenciaga?

No.

Okay.

We sold all, like Gary used to have a Balenciaga face with all the hoodies.

Like, we sold everything.

Yeah.

That's so funny.

And it's not a brand I want to associate with no me neither so even if we wanted to support britney on this like we're

not going to support balenciaga but however i do think it's a good move for brittany like any yes and this and balenciaga is like a high fashion and it's a good move for balenciaga because you know they need all the help they can get even though so many celebrities like still work with them and then are surprised why we don't like them

but that's there's always sometimes a disconnect like between fashion world and real world and a lot of these companies are suffering without us knowing they just have this like big brand.

It looks flashy and successful.

I think that's where Balenciaga is at.

How are they still in business?

Like, oh my God.

They have a machine behind it.

I think, yeah, the other brands that whoever owns Balenciaga, like the other brands that they own, just pay for Balenciaga because they don't want to admit like what a big mistake they made.

But they're going to bring a creative director that will change it.

Like you just need time.

With these things, time does its thing.

I actually have to say, I was pretty shocked how fast the story, like when they did that hideous campaign, how fast people forgot I feel like the media moved on and like everyone acts like beyond Benciaga is normal and like celebrities moved on but the people that's what I'm saying has not moved on that's what I'm saying the media did not fool the people no but it was crazy to see how fast the cycle went on the media it's true so it's really true but like the when you go to like sacks like the sale racks are all balenciaga like the store within the store is like it's the only empty one.

Like the people were still mad.

I think that today, if you choose to wear Balenciaga, it like showcases your values as a person.

Yeah.

And it's a bigger statement than people realize.

I think so too.

However,

I never owned that much Balenciaga to begin with.

And so I didn't like sell it or sell the things that I had.

I never had anything outside Balenciaga.

Like I have the city bags.

I don't wear them anymore.

But those are, they belong to a different.

And yeah, like he didn't make them.

I didn't exactly.

I agree.

And I'm just waiting for them to like come back around because I would wear mine again.

But I feel like if you owned Balenciaga already, like you could still wear, like, that's fine.

But like, we don't, when we see you in it, like, we don't know when you're judge.

Yeah.

I judge straight up.

So.

So those are the fast-five stories.

You absolutely needed to know them.

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Thank you so much for joining us this morning and giving us your time.

Where can everyone follow you?

Thank you for enlightening me.

And I'm so excited to get my news from the toast every week so I can be with it.

People can find me at Valeria LePovetsky on every platform.

I'm everywhere.

She's such an amazing content creator.

Like, give her a follow, even if she doesn't need it.

She has millions of followers and like, she doesn't need us at all.

And so we're glad that you graced us with your podcast.

Thank you so much.

And then my podcast, Not Alone.

When does it drop?

Every week.

What days?

Tuesdays.

Tuesdays.

And you just had Stasi on your podcast.

We're big Stasi fans here.

Listen, Stasi is the one that made me realize that I have to learn more about reality TV because she is, I fell in love with her.

I'm obsessed with her.

She is so fun, so upbeat.

But just know, like, not everyone is a stasi.

And so, like, you're starting to get.

But I only want the stasis.

Yeah.

Every, most, most good shows have a stasi, but like, if you think you're going to go into reality TV and you're going to meet a million stasis, there's only one stasi.

So I'm going to talk with my chat GPT to filter my reality show consumption and only find me the stasis.

Okay, you could also start Vanderpump Rules.

That's actually a great American show.

The show that Stasi got her start on.

Yeah.

Like the early seasons is like peak reality television.

So if you want to know like what it's all about.

And they're running a restaurant.

They are working in a restaurant.

Yes.

And in the early days, they really were working there.

Like Lisa Vanderpump owns the restaurant and they wanted to give her a show about what goes on in her restaurant.

So they, and they, she just happened to have like really interesting people working for her.

Now, the show's not even on right now, but like now it's like people fake work there just to like film pickup scenes or whatever.

But back in the day, like they were really working at the restaurant.

That was their full-time job.

Like they weren't making a lot of money.

They were just scraping by and they were just like so excited to be on this reality show.

They left it all on the show.

You have to watch it.

I have to watch it.

Okay, cool.

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