Wrapping Up with Justin Sylvester: Wednesday December 3rd, 2025

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Welcome back to the toast and happy Wednesday. I'm so excited to be sat on because my guest today is the one and only ladysitter back for a second time.
Hello, Justin. By the way, twice in one mom.

Yes, twice in one maternity leave. It's crazy.
Yes, welcome back.

You're in New York. Project, project, project, business, business, business, meeting, meeting, meeting.
How are you?

A bit just tired. A bitch is tired.
And you hosted the Today Show yesterday. Yes.
Did you?

I did a little thing with Scarlett Johansson and Jenna. Oh, and it was so Instagram.
I was missing Scarlet Johansen. It was so much fun.
Tell me what Scarlett Johansson's like in person.

Chill. Yeah.

Also smells really nice. It's my Jewish queen right there.
Yeah, I love her, you know. By the way, there's something about somebody who just knows she has it.
Oh, so true, you know what I mean? Like,

like that woman has never had a confidence issue in her life, and you can tell. You know what I mean? Like, never a bad day, went out with the pimple, still got a man.
You know what I mean?

Like, just like she had a good man, too. She had a good man, that's a good man, Savannah.
That's a good man, Savannah. Oh, welcome back to New York.
Thank you so much. What are you sipping on?

A protein shake?

I gotta get a protein shake because let me tell you something. You're withering away.
Peacock is working my ass off. You have lots of projects.
Tell me about your projects, Justin.

Of course, you know, just waiting for NBC to give you your job at the Today Show, of course. At this point, I don't know if it's going to happen, but the NFL might give me a job after this weekend.

I'll be running back. I know, right?

So I'm doing reality hot seat. Basically, it's me, Heather Gay, Kate Chastain, and Boston Ron from Traders and Survivor.

We're going to be sitting down.

We're going to be simulcasting a full football game so funny the chiefs versus the texans we were talking about the football game but we're also going to be talking about the drama off the field of course one of my favorite things is like the connections between professional athletes and celebrities like i always choose my team for a while i was a big atlanta falcons fan because corey bierman like yeah i love the connection between housewives and just celebrities in general with sports yes and i love that people have are starting to see reality tv like sports i've we're always saying like they need to do like a bar night for the bachelor like and i think with love island over the summer a lot of of bars started to host like how you would host the super bowl you host love island because like what's the equivalent of sports for women it's really like reality tv oh and for men by the way oh sorry they get into it too 100 like the menus straights get into it's always like oh we have to watch this meanwhile he's like in the back being like i cannot believe lucerena said that oh no no no my favorite thing to do is because i date a straight man

Every time I'm like, oh, let's watch Real Housewives. He's like, oh.
But we share an account. So I like to go at my account and see what he watches.
Right. And he will always go to the episode ahead.

And he's like, oh, yeah, I just wanted to catch up with you. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no. But you're absolutely correct.
Housewives is literally like football. The NFL, 1,000%.

There's drama.

There's egos. There's a lot of story.
There's a lot of things going on behind the scenes. And we are all going to dive into that.
So a simulcast is like when we're simultaneously watching you

and the football game. Think of me as like your Brian Go.
Recorder. Yeah.
You're Brian Gonzalez. Tony Romo.
Yeah, yeah.

I'm going gonna be tony romo you're so tony romo i'm so tony romo i love that it's so funny because i went into this whole thing the process was pretty fun you know in my line of work there's a chemistry test

and i get into the chemistry test there's some women there's a strategy

like what happens in a chemistry test they want to see who you are if you just like talk yeah you just you know you talk you see if you vibe you film like a fake episode basically basically okay

and i got into my chemistry test

and there's a straight guy in it and you know questions about football would come up and I would surprise myself because how much you knew how much I knew and how much I could explain.

You know, I love, love, love, love. So I was like, holy shit.

Am I a straight world now? Leader or lady? Am I a football gay now? Yes. I'm a football gay.
You are. Now, let me ask you a question because you've got Heather Gay.
Mm-hmm.

You've got a ton of reality. Do you ever run into this issue where like so much of your job, especially when you were doing Dallipop, so much of your job is like talking shit, right? Yeah.

And sometimes it's not always like overwhelmingly positive. And then you like run into that person, or you're like, you know, you see, like, do you ever have weirdness like that?

Yes, Mate, the greatest fucking story. Yeah, I'm probably gonna get shot.
Let's do it. I'll protect you.
I was at Malika Hawk's 40th birthday. Okay, Malika of Chloe and Malika.
Of Chloe and Malika.

I ended up running into

Tristan Thompson

at said party.

Yeah.

Of course, all the shit, the back and forth. We knew what was going on.

You know, it was all crazy. Of course, of course.

And on Daily Pop at the time,

that was like the hottest topic. Yeah.
You know, he was the hottest topic. It was the biggest thing in the world at the time.
It was the biggest thing in the world. Yeah.

And my whole take, obviously, Morgan Stewart had her take, and it was always like, fuck that guy, fuck that guy. Like, how could he blah, blah, blah.

And my whole take was, you know, this is pretty terrible. Yeah.
But I also know what I would do or what my mindset would be if I was 20 years old and somebody handed me $15 million

and all the power in the world. I think it's a mind buck.
A thousand percent. And I hope that one day he grows up.
But right now, he is just not in that place and we are seeing it unroll.

He also doesn't have a dad. Like, you know, like his mom was a single mom.
You took a very human approach to it.

I took a very human approach to it because, A, I just didn't want the show to sound, you know,

so negative yeah and also like i don't want us to all sound the same but i also felt for him a little bit right right right i also dated a professional athlete we'll get to that sly um somebody in the nfl we'll get to that sly um

so that was always my approach and i kept it the same way because i believed it

i run into him at the party okay

Black guys do this. Right.

It's like, you know, when you see two Rams in the wild, we just naturally do that in a room sometimes when we don't like somebody uh-huh so i was like hey what's happening man like he's like bro i see you on my show i see you on that show

and i'm like oh my god and he's like six foot five uh-huh so i'm like you know i'm a i'm getting a little nervous my butt getting you know you know your butt gets a little tight yeah i'm like blood control i'm like yeah would you want to talk about it like we can talk it out

and he was like you know My mom always said that she liked you, like she loves your takes on that show, you know?

And I was like, you know, I was mad at first, but then she made me realize like your takes blah blah blah

and he and i start to have this one hour conversation

about everything that had happened and about our like just how we grew up the same

how parallel our lives were and how he was just genuinely like kind of touched that somebody understood and somebody was taking the other side right because nobody was at the time nobody yeah was taking the other side that's lovely and i still stand by that Well, I was asking like for more of the negative side because I feel like what people do what we do.

What happened to Morgan Stewart with Justin Bieber? Do you remember that? When he tweeted the clip about her like making fun of him and like came for her.

That is, I think, every podcaster, commentator's worst nightmare. Nightmare.
Has anything like that ever happened to you? But you're not really a negative person. You do really see things like that.

Tristan is a good example of like you just being a human being. Yeah.
Oh, no. It's happened.
I had someone's publicist call me. Like,

this woman would literally sit by the phone. We would rap at 9 a.m.
By 9.02. She was on the phone.
She was on the motherfucking phone. Yeah.
And I'm like, babe, you can't be upset about this.

Like, you got to chill the fuck out. Yeah, I had Carol Rodzbel's publicist like threatening me once, but during the Cartagena years.
Remember that? Bethany D. Carol.

Damn. Isn't it scary? But by the way, I feel like

I was so young too. Now, like, I dare someone to fuck with me.
Right.

But back then, I was like, I was like texting like fiercely, but I was shitting my pants behind the scenes i was like i'm sorry i didn't well it's also like new york is small yes like you guys are gonna see each other around a thousand percent but i feel like podcasters want to do that now yes it's like a good way to be buzzy yeah but like i'm not

i don't have the stomach for it i don't it's so weird because when you're a podcaster you answer to yourself

and when you are on a network like yeah back then it's like we want to try this opinion-based thing but we really want celebrities to show up right right so we have to balance yeah it's kind of like this fine dance and e-news is less like opinion based right you're just like you're delivering the news oh i have zero you don't get in trouble

did you ever get in trouble on nightly pop and daily sorry daily pop yeah we got in trouble i got in trouble a few times but i again i wasn't the wild card i let morgan stewart kind of be the yeah and i'm also black and gay you know what i mean like i do if you tell a white woman that her hair looked a a mess, you're fucking going down.

Right. You know what I mean? If I tell a white woman, damn, your hair looks a mess, people are like, right? Oh, he's so funny.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can get away.
You can get away with it. Yeah.

Wendy Williams was a gay black man. Oh, that's an amazing point.
And let's talk about Wendy Williams.

It is a modern tragedy. And I think I watched, so funny, I reference this all the time.
And I feel like people are going to make fun of it because I tell the same five stories five times.

She did a partnership with Lifetime where they did one of their like turnt recreations, biopics. Yeah.
And it was one of the worst movies, but it was incredible.

And I feel like I actually learned everything I know about Wendy Williams, like in her mega career, like in radio up until she doesn't get in her flowers for kind of the woman that she was.

I feel like when we talk about like women in daytime, we talk about, of course, like Ellen. And Wendy kind of gets like lost in the sauce, but she's really that bitch.
She is that bitch. Also,

Wendy was the first person to survive Diddy.

What do you mean by that? Diddy tried to cancel Wendy years ago. She got kicked off her radio.
Oh my God. What was she saying about him? Oh, everything.
The truth. She was saying everything.

She knew everything. Yeah, right.
She knew everything.

Okay. And she said it.
She didn't give a fuck. Yeah.

And what Wendy did crossing over from radio to daytime was legendary. Yeah.

I have never in my life seen, if you have never seen a Wendy Williams show, just Google Wendy Williams Hot Topics. We're talking about a woman

sitting on a chair, captivating an audience for 10 minutes straight

just by telling stories. But she also really told the truth.
And I think that's like so valuable in the sense that, like, and I think we saw it a lot with like fashion police and Joan.

Like, she used to say, You're making $25 million a movie. I'm allowed to make fun of your dress.
And we very much live in like sensitive times. Yeah.

And Wendy was saying stuff. And now you would go back and watch, you almost clutch your pearls when she says some of the things that she says, because in this day and age, you would never fly.
Oh, no.

And she really was, like you said, you have to balance being in a network and you it's she had interviews she had people come on like you want to balance being a safe place for celebrities while also talking to your audience and making people engage and like your show and sometimes that means like saying the uncomfortable truth and she really balanced it very well well she was the black howard stern oh i love that comparison yeah so before howard stern got on um the voice or america's gotten talent before we ruined howard stern yeah basically yeah before we got get got gave howard stern a publicist yeah right he cleaned up his actual

quick for that cash yeah and i'm not mad i'm not mad at it. I respect the hustle.

However, Howard Stern had carved out this really niche role for himself where America kind of let him get away with a lot of stuff. I mean, when you go back and watch some of those clips, you guys.

I can't believe Howard Stern in the early 2000s. It is like the 90s.
It is the worst, most misogynistic. Like, it's fucking disgusting.
Bitch, Howard Stern would have women come.

to his studio, put a speaker on the floor, have them straddle it

and have them sit sit on it for an hour. Like that is some crazy shit.
It's so true. And it's so wild how he's turned it around.
Like he is kind of a go-to now.

You know, you do Jimmy Fallon, you do Stern, and it's really thoughtful.

One of my favorite celebrity memoirs is Howard Sterns, where he like transcribes a lot of his old interviews and then like gives his takes in between.

It is a great book, but it's shocking that that's the same person. It's wild.
Yeah. You know, but she would have, I swear to you, if Wendy Williams had not had the people around her that she had,

I think she would have stayed on TV and she wouldn't have flinched. No, I didn't.
She would be the same bitch that she was day one. It is the saddest thing, like how her story ended.

Did you watch that lifetime special?

I watched the dramatized version of her life. You didn't watch the, she had a reality show.
Oh, yes, of course. Dominic.
While she was having Graves disease. Yes, of course, of course.

I mean, one of the saddest things I've ever seen in my life. I know.

And it doesn't get talked about enough, like the tragedy of Wendy Williams' last couple of years on air. I know.
And you know, she was dealing with so much shit in her personal life.

I mean, that husband had a woman around the corner. Fucking husband.
It's always the husband. It's always the fucking husband.

No, today's a special day because, of course, you're in the studio with me, but it's also Spotify Rap Day, which I feel like is a big day for everyone, but especially at the toast. I want to say.

Yeah, of course. Do you think Spotify Rapped is a white girl thing? Oh my God, it's such a white girl, white gay thing.
So funny. Oh, my God.
It's for Breonna and Kevin. I'm cracking up.

You're kind of right. That's why it's such a big day here at the toast.
Well, thank you to everyone for tagging us on your Spotify Rapped. But it's also a great day because we find out so much.

I feel like one of the funny things about like internet is that everybody acts like they're the shit, right? Like, oh, I have a million this and I have a million that.

And Spotify Rapt is data. And Spotify Rapt is the numbers and it's the streams.

And I think a lot of people have like overblown streams and a lot of people make it seem like they're doing bigger and better than they are. And Spotify Rapt is kind of the,

we're holding up a mirror to everyone. Let's see.
So I have the data. I have the analytics.
And Justin. Are you ready for the fast five stories?

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Okay, so Spotify Rapt is here. It's the internet's favorite day of the year.

The streaming platform rolled out updates in its year-end experience along with their lists. Now, the lists are always always listing.
Without a doubt, 2025 belonged to Bad Bunny.

He landed atop Spotify's global top artist and global top album list for the January released, I'm going to botch this, Debbie Chirar, Masphotos.

Debbie Lavatos los photos. Debbie, I mean, I am like part Latina because my name is Claudia.
So Debbie Chirar masphotos. He returned to the number one spot.
Taylor had had it in previous years.

It's always like Taylor or Bunny, Taylor, Bunny. But the interesting thing is that they have the list of top artists and then the list of top albums.
Bad Bunny is on the top artist and the albums.

Taylor's on the artist, but not on the albums. And that's, she's a wide breadth of music.
And I think a lot of people like go to listen to her old stuff.

But it is kind of interesting. There were a lot of interesting things.
Well, here's the jam. She also does vinyls.
Right, right.

So they're not counting those vinyls. Yeah, because this is just on Spotify.
No, no, all those fans are buying vinyls. Now, so, and then they have songs of the year.

The most interesting thing, the most streamed song of the year, if I gave you you a million guesses, I feel like you wouldn't guess it. Is it some TikTok song? No.

What is it? Bruno Maher's Lady Gaga Die with a Smile, which is a great song. I loved it, but I didn't know everybody else did.
Everybody else loved it too. I was shocked.
Everyone else loved it.

Birds of a Feather was number two.

So good.

And then,

wow, Bruno Maher is occupying the top two. By the way,

he's a global artist.

He is. He is.
We're thinking America, this is globally. After that was Alex Warren's Ordinary.
That's a TikTok song. Do you know that one?

Then Somber's breakout hit, Back to Friends. I'm Unfamiliar.
That's number six. And then, of course, number seven, Golden from K-pop Demon Hunters.
I love that song.

Also, everyone, take a snapshot of these numbers right now because next year, those numbers are not going to look the same.

There's a lot of controversy going on in the music industry right now. Explain.

A lot of people are

very much so accusing labels of using bots to get people numbers. To stream.
To stream. That's why some people have lost millions and millions of streams over the last few months.

Wait, that's so interesting. Stream's been kind of cracking down.

Like allegedly, there's like a man in Turkey that has a bot farm that like record labels when they want to go ahead and juice up somebody's song. Right.

They pay that person like $250,000 and that person gets those bots going. That's what I heard.
No, that's actually really interesting, but I do want to ask you

what you make of of there is a noticeable absence in these lists of your girl

Beyonce. She's not on the top 50 most streamed artists.
Like, she didn't release music this year, so it's not uncommon for her not to be in like the album. But like, Maroon 5 was on the top 50.

It's crazy. And Beyonce wasn't.
I found that so confusing. I also think that people were using title for her Apple Music.
You know, like, you know, that's interesting. People were using title.

And you have to remember that this is.

This is only Spotify. Right, right.
This is only Spotify.

So, um, other notable things were,

hold on. They crowned Taylor Swift.

Oh,

I'm sorry. Taylor Swift was the number one most streamed artist in the U.S.
In the U.S. So they do two.
They do U.S. and they do global.
And always global is Bad Bunny and Always U.S. is

either Bad Bunny or Taylor Swift. I find the U.S.
ones more interesting just because those are my peeps. Yeah.

But the number one songs, yeah, Die With a Smile, Birds of a Feather, Apata, Ordinary.

Most streamed artists were Bad Bunny, then Taylor Swift, then The Weekend,

which, like, I know he plays everywhere. He's always on tour.
Radio. Oh, he was always on tour.
He's always on tour. I don't know anyone who's like a huge The Weekend fan.

Like, that's their number one. Well, you have to remember this.
Yeah. The weekend is a bar mitzvah.
Yeah.

Guy. Yeah.
Weddings. Like, Bruno Mars is bar mitzvah.
When you become a bar mitzvah artist, like the black eye piece. Earth, wind, and fire.
Yes. Oh, I love, but I love that comparison.

Multi-generational music. Like, you have those hits where people who are in their 40s, in their 30s, in their 50s, they're all listening to it.
And that's what the weekend is. He's bar mitzvah music.

That's what I feel about the Super Bowl. Like the Super Bowl should be only for bar mitzvah artists.
I completely agree.

Okay, so of recent years in terms of Super Bowl performers, and I would love to get your take on Bad Bunny. Who do you think was a good selection and who do you think like we could have lived without?

This is a very big hot take and I'm going to piss a lot of people off. But the Super Bowl should only be women.
Oh my God. By the way, I said that.

I completely agree. I'm sexist.
I'm sorry. It's for the girls.
I'm sorry. It's for the girls.
That's what I feel also about the national anthem.

So I'm a little suspicious of Charlie Pooth who's doing it this year. It should only be for the girls.
I totally agree. And I'm going to say this, and I'm going to say this loud.

If you're a man performing at the Super Bowl and out of the 14 minutes, if six is not for a pop girly or two,

you have messed up. So does that mean you didn't like Usher?

By the way, Usher's bar mitzvah music yeah i agree i agree usher's bar mitzvah music the only thing i didn't like about usher's performance and i'm gonna be completely honest right here usher started on the field

the cameras are everywhere i didn't know where to look it was like all this vegas coming out i needed him to start on stage yeah a little bit more like organized you need a little bit more organized but again if you're bar mitzvah music i'm in yeah Wow.

Well,

I love Spotify rapped. I hope they keep giving us data.
And, you know, all these other, YouTube now does year-end and information and Apple does it too. It doesn't hit the same.
Spotify invented this.

I love it. It's like my favorite time of year.
And you're right. I guess it is like so white woman-coated.
Such white woman-coated.

White women and white women. If you get a ice latte in the wintertime, Spotify rap is for you.
Okay.

I'm talking to you, Brian. I am seen.
I'm talking to you, Andy.

You're whites.

Do you know who your number one artist was? Because shockingly, mine, it's actually not shocking. I love her.
I always always have the same couple of people. Like, Taylor's always in there.

But this year, I had, Rascal Flats is always in there. You know, I'm like, I couldn't trick her.
I love Rascal Flats. Love Rascal Flats.
This year, I had a lot of Sabrina.

I think she was like my number one or number two artist. I love her.
I got stuck on Tate McCrae this year. Tate McCrae and Megan Thee Stallion.
Yeah. Yeah.
And have you seen Tate McCrae live?

I have not seen her live, but I saw that VMA performance. I used to talk so much shit about her.

I talked so much shit because I met Tate McCrae. Tate McCrae.
Oh, I had an interview or talking about my. In the beginning,

I didn't understand it. yeah i was like i don't know about this you guys all the songs sound the same she's just dancing too much like

and then i saw on the vmas yeah and i apologized publicly no i had an opposite experience with tate mcray i just want to say i feel like for the come up i was like oh she's it she's the next thing next brittany the dancing her leg goes all the way above her head but i feel like she's just kind of let me down i know she's huge i know she plays arenas and i know like all of her songs go viral but like i don't know i feel like she hasn't had real mainstream impact yet she's also very young Yes, yes, yes.

But she's released like three albums in the last three years. The Grammy nominations just came out.
They hopped right over her. Addison Ray got a nomination.
Like everyone kind of got it. I know.

It's kind of crazy. It is.
I don't stream Addison Ray.

I don't understand Addison Ray,

but I respect Addison Ray. By the way, I'm here for the come up.
I'm here for anybody's come up. Me too.
I was more like down with Addison Ray making TikToks and doing Netflix movies.

That was just more my taste because I have like lowbrow taste.

You don't need to agree with that.

but I understand like this is an art yeah I think the thing that I when I look at a pop girl

everybody wants easy right now so like Sabrina Carpenter was easy you know espresso came out everyone could sing the song but you're wrong about that by the way Sabrina Carpenter had released six albums before Espresso.

She was on the Disney track. She was releasing so much music.
She, it was like a 10-year-old. Well, let's talk about that.
Let's talk about that.

It happened very quickly once it happened with espresso. Espresso made her the number one artist in the world.
Let me tell you why.

Those 10 albums, if you listen to those 10 albums, that woman sounds like Christina Aguilera.

She has vocal range. She's giving you Christina.
She's Disney. She's well-trained.
She's well-trained. America couldn't handle that.
Agreed. From a young woman.

They couldn't handle that. So she was like, okay, just.

America can digest that. They can sing it.
They can put it on TikTok. Same with her dance movies.

Very easy. Very, you know, she had to slow herself down for everyone else.
Tate McRae has not slowed herself down yet. That's actually a really interesting parallel.

Because you can't remake those dances on TikTok unless you are a dancer. Right, right.
So the minute Tate McRae realizes that Britney Spears doing this was easy for America.

You know what I mean? You just got to give America something they can digest. Our next story is troublesome.

I hate when people say this, okay?

Travis Kelsey was talking about his relationship with Taylor Swift, and he said the thing that, like, you're not supposed to say.

It's like, you know, when somebody says something and you realize it's like the biggest red flag, him and Taylor Swift have never once had an argument during their two and a half year relationship.

I don't know, girl. That picture at Lake Como looked like y'all were

y'all were beefing about their weddings. So they were interviewing George Clooney on their podcast slide.

And then when asking Clooney about his past claim that him and his wife Amal have never gotten into an argument in their 10 years together, Kelsey flipped the script. And he said,

Clooney said, no, I'm not lying. Travis, should we ask you the same question? And then Travis laughed and said, well, it's only been, you know, two and a half years, but you're right.

I haven't gotten into an argument. Never once.
George Clooney went on to explain that he and Amal do not see the point in arguing, noting neither of us are going to win the argument. So why get in?

Dude, I'm 64 years old. And what am I going to argue about at this point? You know, I've met this incredible woman.
She's beautiful. She's smart.

She stands for all the most important things that I believe in in the world. And I can't believe how lucky I am.
So what am I going to fight about? I believe him.

I believe, okay, ready?

I believe him. I believe George Clooney, because I believe that his marriage with Amal is just like

not that deep.

Do you agree?

I think he was like, listen, I'm 55. Right.
I need 40. Right.
It works so well for both of them. Yeah.
I don't think it's the great love of our time.

I don't think it's, you know, they're not going to write sonnets about this marriage. So maybe do they not engage in arguments? Sure.

If it's true that Taylor and Travis, and when Jay Shady was on, he wrote a book about relationships and then came on the podcast.

And I read something and I always like, it's like the one thing I took from the book is about like communicating. And if you're not fighting, you're not communicating.
Like fighting,

a small amount of fighting, a healthy amount of fighting is good in any relationship. It's extremes, right? If you're fighting all the time, that's not a good relationship.

It's not a healthy relationship. If you're never fighting, it's opposite end.
That's also not good. It's somewhere in the middle is a healthy medium.
So

Travis saying that him and Taylor never fight, like, I don't love that. I can't lie because Taylor is like a very deep person.
And I do think this is a real relationship.

I wouldn't put it in the same box as I put George and Amal. Okay, but you're missing one part.

They met, and then she went on a world tour for an entire year. Right? Right.
He is also in training camp

at the same time. You think they're too busy to fight? I think they were too busy to fight.

I think that their relationship started a year after they actually started dating because they weren't in the same place. Right.
Well, but that also not being in the same place causes a lot of fights.

Not when you have a private jet picking your man up to go to Dublin to see you for two nights and then fly him back, honey. That's true.

If you got a G550 that can fly over that fucking Atlantic Ocean,

you're Gucci, bitch. What you go fight about? Right.
When you have a plane, that's a good point. There really isn't anything to fight about when you own a private plane.

I believe she actually owns several.

When you have that much money you can eliminate a lot of the fights so true when are you gonna come see me right when am i gonna see you it doesn't take a lot it's not like a grand gesture you're just getting on the plane the way people get into their cars 100

no i like that that's true these people have not really hit the one-year mark of being together all the time yeah here's where the trouble is going to come in yeah And this is not a negative thing to say.

I'm going to back this up with facts. Okay.

When this man retires from football, which is coming. Yeah.
Tom Brady. I'll tell you something.
His check engine light is already on. A thousand percent.

He should have got that all changed two years ago. But his check engine light is on.
Yeah, it's almost time. It's almost time.
He's also the target of every defense.

They want to make an example out of him. So he's not getting the looks that he was getting before.

If you look at what happened with Tom Brady, him and Giselle were together for a very long time. He said, I'm going to retire and I'm going to be at home with these kids with you.

And we're going to start to live your life.

He retired. Yep.
And then went right back in three months later because he couldn't figure out who he was. These men lose who they are whenever their identity is all shattered.

No, and like, it's nice to be on the same journey as your partner, right? Like we're in our hustle era or we're in our quiet era.

And I don't see Taylor stopping anytime soon because as a musician, you can make music until you're 80. You can be the best music you've ever made.

With an athlete, you know, you reach 40 and that's the peak. Like, no, that's not the peak.
That's the end. The end.

So yeah, I do think that right now they're both in their hustle era and it's like going so well for both of them. He went to the Super Bowl.
Like

it's great. And by the way, let me tell you something right now.

Nothing's worse in a relationship than when a woman

is doing better. He's doing better than a man.

No matter how,

you know, formed a man is. Yep.
Even the strongest. Even the strongest motherfuckers.
Yes. It gets to them.
It gets to them a little bit.

And I think the challenge is going to come whenever he's at that pinnacle and he's got to really look inside himself and find out who he is without the ball.

And that's when the fighting is going to start. I think they're going to get through it.
Yeah. But that's where it gets like, it's not so easy, Street.
It's not so easy, Street.

But that's also what I remember last year. We were following like every Chiefs game and they just win because there's this great team.
And they didn't win the last Super Bowl, correct?

And that was like the first, I feel like, tough time for them. Like up until that point, of course, you never know what goes on behind closed doors.

But up until that point, it was like all easy, love and win. Everyone loves us, number one song, number one team.

And then it was like,

yeah.

By the way,

that private chest is getting to everybody. Yeah, right.
It's easy to get comfortable. He's getting comfortable.
He's also getting old. It's his time.

So I also, I saw somebody, I think it was Liz Woods puts it on her story, like, because I think it's always a red flag when somebody says, oh, we never fight.

It's like, well, you're never talking because it's just a human thing to buttheads.

and it's like

well they obviously probably do argue but like maybe I don't know maybe people have different opinions of what arguing means I don't think by the way I I don't know I'm telling you right now also like let's be honest girls don't show their guys who they really are yeah until it's too late

men 90 days in 90 days we're farting in front of you they're doing the whole nine yards like on day 91 bitch he gonna show you who he really is totally girls can keep up the charade for at least a year and a half.

Until it's not even a time period, it's like a timeline. Like once you're married, it's over.
It's over. The feathers come out.
Right. The crazy.
The crazy Rizzit's ugly head.

The crazy Rizzit's ugly head. I love our next story because I've been wondering so much.
You know, Jen Cha's getting out of prison this month, December 2025. Getting out of job.

Well, so I was wondering, like, what, how is Bravo going to engage? There's so much.

Mystery around Jen and her return to the show. And like, will, where does Bravo draw the line?

We've never had a situation like this where the housewife herself, it's you know, Tom Girardi, the husband, it was Teresa and her husband, and they defrauded the government.

Nobody cares when you defraud the government. No.

This is a woman who committed the crime herself,

and it was pretty egregious. So, what's the moral code here? How does Bravo move forward? And Angie Cohen has opened his mouth about it, and I was really surprised at his take.

He said,

Absolutely not.

Please stop asking me.

He put his foot down hard.

He said, no. He said, cut the camera.
He said, not only are we, of course not. Like, it was so obvious.
Stop asking me. Like, don't even bring it up anymore.
Stop asking me. I was shocked.

Now, her team has been, you know, releasing these statements about her growth. She's done a lot of reflecting and growth during her time away.
She's not the same woman she was before.

Her focus is on family, building a healthier, more grounded life, and she understands the seriousness of her mistakes. mistakes.

But Andy said, absolutely not.

This is my hot take. I have no information on this.
Let's hear it. But I'm just going to say it.

I bet that Jin Shaw,

when she saw or heard about what was happening on that season, the amount of legal letters and amount of invoices and amount of emails that she must have sent to Bravo. Yeah, of course.

Must have sent it from inside the walls.

Literally, she had the

amount of shit she must have caused at that network while this season was airing and the showing what she was doing must have been so insane that she cannot even walk through that building.

The interesting thing about that franchise, though, is that like it's so popular right now. And they had this like benchmark moment.

Like when we think of the crazy things that have happened on house, I was like, Jen Shaw getting, you know, Homeland Security,

swatting the,

and the way that that season like wasn't even popular the way it is now, like the show has really thrived without her. It's crazy.

And I think maybe the network, you know, can say, no, we're not going to have her because they don't really need her. The show is crushing.

Where you would have thought like the season, and then the season where she was on trial, like the housewives, like never even, they're all fighting with each other about some other dumb shit.

Nobody was even asking her, like, hey, bitch, did you defraud the elderly? Yeah. Like, not the disabled.
Like, nobody even asked her. Like, they totally dropped the ball.

It was like kind of the worst season ever when it should have been this like

insane. That scene on the Sprinter van was insane.

And then everything after that was like not it was crazy so i just feel like they actually don't even need her but i i'm like pleasantly surprised that we're not going to condone this type of behavior and like make her a star i i'm all set on my jin shaw yeah i i think i'm good without without jin shaw but then you know you know who this is not good news for who wendy ocepho

but again she wasn't she wasn't she's innocent until proven guilty and she wasn't defrauding the elderly no she was just defrauding sax yeah the insurance companies yeah you know what i mean right do we care now i wonder like what well of course she's uh you know innocent and proven guilty although the uh evidence is astounding what do you make of that situation

i hope that there is something else going on first and foremost wendy has four degrees yeah husband is a lawyer how you could be so stupid i just want if you're going to be a criminal i just want you to crime harder right be a good one i want you to be a good criminal i just want you to have put some effort into it because if this case is that shut and dry right like your husband's a lawyer and you're literally writing emails to each other about the crime you're about to commit like so stupid i'm pissed Yeah.

You know what I mean? Like, I just, I want to know that you tried harder. Yeah.
So it can't be that easy. So I'm going to believe that Wendy isn't.

I know. Even though, like, I was, I like read.
It's really like.

It's really terrible. It's bad.
And the thing is, I actually think she's a great housewife. So it's a loss for the community.
Like, I actually didn't think Jen Shaw was a great housewife.

I don't think she contributed a lot to the show outside of her trial. Yeah.
Um, where it's like Wendy came on the scene when she was slithering, like, you know, Karen Huger.

Like, she's a good housewife. She contributes.
I think that Wendy is going to let this play out. Yeah.

I don't think she's going to ginshaw it in the sense that she's going to give them a lot of headache for, you know, what they're showing, what they're not showing.

However, I grew up on A ⁇ E. I watched Intervention.
Right. I watched people smoke heroin

at seven o'clock. I was on Scare Straight.

You know what? If we're going to have all these cons, let's show it. It's actually true.
Cause also Karen Huger, she's just been released for her DUIs. Will she be on the program? Yes.
She better.

She's my BravoCon. Oh, was she? She's my fucking favorite.
She is the fucking greatest. Also, didn't hurt anybody.
Right, right. You know what I mean? Thank God.
But also, that is her journey.

This is her reality. Right.
And it's a reality show. And it's a reality show.
So, of course, out of six women, one of them is going to be a criminal. Right.
It's always the one in Jimmy Choose.

It's, you know, it's sort of just like physics, math. Yes.
It's math. It's girl math.
It's six housewives. It's girl math.

Next up is your favorite girl. Who? Megan Markle.

So,

So, you know, she has a new season of With Love,

and it came out today. And so nobody's really like watched it in full yet, but Harry has made an appearance.
Like, thank God. Showing up for work today.
He made an appearance in season three.

The Duke of Sussex made a surprise appearance on With Love. She did, it's not like a new season.
It's like a holiday

batch of episodes. It's called With Love Megan, colon holiday celebration.

He timed it well, coming in just in time to try some of the food that her and the celebrity guest, Tom Kalicia, were cooking up. He walked in and he says,

he walked in and he said, this is what he said.

I smelled gumbo. Shut up.

First of all, hold on, hold on. Hold the fucking phone.

She invited a white man to make a gumbo. And you're from Louisiana.
And you're from Louisiana. Does it make you feel?

Trigger it. Yeah.
Offended. Trigger.
It's offended. He didn't smell anything but water.
Right. He said, I smelled gumbo.
He gave Megan a quick kiss and then introduced himself to Tom.

He said, gumbo for me is like one of my favorites, especially her mom's. But before the fish goes in, what he doesn't eat fish? By the way, nobody should be putting fish in their gumbo.

So Doria, her mom,

I guess has like a world-famous gumbo. She always saves a little portion on the side, I guess, without fish.
Yeah. You're saying gumbo shouldn't have fish? No.
It has sausage, right?

You can put sausage, you can put gumbo. I mean, you could put shrimp, you can put, you know, I hope he's sucking my shrimp.
So this is what, if you're curious, I know you, oh, you're a big gumbo fan?

Yeah. Okay, so Doria puts in an anduel sausage.
Andewilly sausage. Um, my mom, this is what she said.
My mom does the turkey sausage for Harry. So, this one has more kick in it.
I'll give you a towel.

He's going to start sweating. So, hers is like spicy.

This one has salt in it. He might start sweating.
When Harry tried the dish, he admitted, I can feel it puncturing through the top of my head right now. It's delicious.

I'm not sure it's as good as your mom's, but it's certainly close. In front of Tom Collicchio, he said that.
Yep. Damn, he has zero moral confidence.

The comment sparked a lot of uh false outrage according to e-news from megan before she conceded my mom will love you what a good thing for you to say to your mother-in-law hilarious this is so like i have to watch it because the way that they're just transcribing it like feels awkward he is a jam that shows like all it's fair oh yeah everyone's hate watching so bad it's so good it's so bad it's so good yeah and i'm hooked yeah you are and i'm excited for season two we were new for season two i couldn't by the way After you get past episode one,

episode one and episode two, I'm not going to lie. It's not great.
Not great. Three on.

Get ready. So I just finished last night, I'm just caught up with the new season of Kardashians, where she's filming All's Fair while filming The Kardashians.

And it does make a compelling case for the show. And, you know, the women are so tight.
And it's a real friendship, like Sarah Paulson, Tiana Taylor, and Kim. Like it's real.

So I want it to do well, like so that they can all hang out again. It's going to do well.
Yeah. Here's the thing.
I think that they put her, and again,

don't quote me on this. This is just my professional opinion.
I think Ryan Murphy was like, you are going to lead the show. You're going to be number one on the call sheet.

It's going to be this big thing. I think she got in that arena.
I think they gave her way too much dialogue in the first two episodes. Way too much.

They went back to the writer's room and said, you know what? Let's dial it back a little bit.

Let's meet her where she is. And now in three, four, and five, it's become more about Sarah Paulson's character, Nini.
Right. Nicy Nash.
Nisi Nash. Character development for the athletes.
Yeah.

And, you know, they put all the other ones in the forefront and they give her just enough lines to make her relevant. To make her relevant, but also to meet her where she is.
That's great.

And I love it. I think it's great now.
Are you watching the new? I was talking about this yesterday with Joey Camasta on Max, the Heated Rivalry Show.

I'm reading the book. Oh, you are.
Okay. So are you going to read the book before?

I don't know if I can watch it. If it's anything like the book.
I think it is. So let me tell you what happened.
Have you, have you? I know what I haven't watched and I haven't read the book.

I literally heard about the show yesterday and now it's everywhere. I see.
Everyone's talking about it. It's based on a romance novel.
And you're currently reading the novel. Claudia.

Clutching Ambrose. Claudia.
I almost lost my job yesterday. Why? Because of this book.
Okay.

First of all, for all the straits out there,

it's 50 shades of gray,

but for gay. Homosexual.
Homosexual. It's homosexual.
Homo sessia.

As my aunt would say, homo sessia.

I was listening to the book on audio. Okay.
We know you love an audiobook. I love an audiobook.
I have my earpods in the makeup room.

My phone was like maybe 20 feet away from me, 20 yards, I got 10 yards away from me. I'm listening to it.
I'm getting my makeup done. And it starts on the sex scene.
There's always a sex scene.

Of course.

But it's so graphic. It's an erotic novel.
And all of a sudden, I hear power off

on my headset, which means it's playing on the phone. It's playing on the fucking phone.
Uma Thurman is two chairs down from me. Oh, God.

The way I jumped from my phone onto the makeup chair next to me. Pass Uma Thurman to press pause

on this thing. My finger.
Literally. Yeah.
Hit the pause button. It is the hottest

book you have ever read. Can I ask you a question about the audiobook? Yeah.

Because a lot of times they like take liberties with the audiobook where they have multiple people playing different characters is it like a dramatized it's one person and it's dramatized and it's a man it's a man and he does a russian accent you're kidding and he does an american accent because one of the guys is russian one of them is canadian oh my god he's so good at it you're kidding that's so funny and by the way in the in the prologue before it even starts

they're they're

wow They are fucking in the credits

in the index. Okay, that's fucking in the index.
The title page. The title page has fucking.
Wow. And so you're going to finish the book and then watch a show.

I don't think I need the show at this point. Apparently, there's like a tune to melt scene.
Have you gotten to that? I am not there yet. Okay.
But I'm going to tell you something.

You don't even need the show. Yeah.
Are you watching I Love LA? I'm not, but it's come across my HBO Max many times. Do I need to be? I feel like I'm a little old for it.
No, do it. Okay.
Do it.

It's good. Claudia, it's so good.
Is that your current like obsession? That's my current. That's like my current girl right now.
Dad and Mormon Wives. Oh, okay.

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is coming out Thursday, tomorrow. And they released kind of how Bravo does, like, you know, the outfit pictures.
Yes. And every girl in the picture looked like a fucking hostage.

Like they looked dead behind the eyes. They looked gray.
I'm like, is this the worst lighting? Have they, they look like they beat them up and then made them take pictures.

So Queen Jesse is giving a little bit of insight. She said they were, she made a TikTok, they released our reunion looks, and obviously I was horrified by the photos.

They make us take the photos at the end of the day when we're all so done. And when you watch the reunion, you're going to know why I feel and look the way that I do.

She said the reunion was explosive and then when they make you get up after the reunion the last thing she wanted to do was smile for the camera next year we're going to make sure we take really good photos and hopefully those are the ones that they use i mean i did see the photos and you know i'm like a negative person i was like does everybody here look horrible everyone's curl is yeah the curls have fallen

the makeup they're pale like the spray tans faded i was like wondering why it looked so turned because i saw the reunion trailer and stasi was there and everyone looked very pretty yeah and i wonder you probably know this better than me when they do the the housewives' pictures, I know they do the group photo at the end.

They do everybody before. But it's a group photo at the end? The group photo is always at the end.
So sometimes some people are like crazy. Yeah, they don't leave.

But the individual like outfit shots. Before.

As you should. Well, they're smart.
They've been doing this for 20 years. Yeah.
You know what I mean? You know what else they don't do at the reunion? Play the sound.

No, no, they play the sound. But you used to, when I first started going with Kyle, I could be in the room.
I could see the reunion. Yeah.
Like you were like on stage. Yes.
There was a moment.

I don't know if you remember this. Teresa,

her hairstylist was backstage and overheard something that Melissa had said on a hot mic and told Teresa. And then Teresa went to confront Melissa.
Off camera or on camera? On camera.

I don't know if you remember this. It doesn't sound familiar, but.
But ever since that incident, there's no more, like you can't hear anything. No, you can see it, but you can't hear it.

So when I, I was reading Andy's book and it's like a, a million years ago, it's a diary and something he writes every day.

And he was talking about how they're having a big issue with all the reunions with things getting leaked. And he was like, So, we had the idea because there are monitors in everyone's dressing room.

So, Hair and Makeup stays in the dressing room, but they can watch on the monitor. He was like, We had this audio pulled, so it's on mute.

So, Hair and Makeup can see because they need to see if somebody's like looking turned. But they turned off all the audio, and he was like, We stopped having leaks immediately.

You know, it's crazy, but did you watch Orange County this season? No, I didn't. Bitch, what happened? Oh, you just have to watch reunion.
Really? Yes. Oh, my God.
There is the biggest plot twist.

I don't want to ruin it for anybody. Oh, you're kidding.
There's the biggest plot twist. It's Orange County is an hour, you know, like normal housewives.

And when you watch the finale, you're like, oh, my God, why is this an hour and 10 minutes? That's a weird extra programming. Yeah, what's an extra 10 minutes for?

There's a phone call between

podcasters, like a blogger, and these cast members. And they basically expose one of the housewives as a leak.

Shit. And what happens is this person starts coming with dates and storylines and things that like people met up on this date.

And it's so crazy. And this is the crazy part.
Yeah.

The housewife that they have, you know, basically

in question has no idea this conversation has happened. Oh, so she shows up to the reunion.
So she goes, goes to the reunion.

They go through like 10 hours of the reunion. At hour 11, they play back this tape and four of the seven housewives know that this has happened because they were there.
Yep.

And this one housewife has no clue. Yikes.
It is

wild. So you've been to a reunion taping.
Yeah. How long are they? Like 14 hours.
Oh my God. And you just sit in the dressing room.
I used to go. I don't go anymore.
Yeah. You know, I went.

You're busy. And by the way, it's

really

hard to watch your best friend. go through something like that, especially back in the day.
When she was like the Kim stuff. The Kim stuff, you know, it was Lisa Vanderpump of it all.

It was like the Brandy Glanville. Oh, my God.
I just saw a video of Brandy Glanville for the first time in a really long time. She got banged.
It's really tough. Yeah.
You know, that was hard for me.

And it's something I never want to do again because it's like, you know, it's an emotional day. No, and it's like a train wreck.
Like you can't intervene. You can't help.
You just have to watch.

You just have to watch.

And then like, you know, she comes to the sideline and you could tell she's just beat up and defeated. Yeah.

And it's hard so i could the hair and makeup people like go for it they're making they're getting a check yeah right right it's many hours as a friend it's like i just wanted to get like a getaway card i don't need to watch you suffer for free i don't need to watch you suffer for free so now what i do is i meet up at the house after

i just let her unload yeah of course you know what i mean yeah and they used to do this thing it was like a tradition no matter how hard it was they all went to dinner they all used to go to dinner together not anymore and not anymore yeah because it's tough what so i've been watching Bravo like my whole life.

And when I was in high school, I grew up at the city. Real houses in New York was like in its heyday.
And it was like the, when this happened, it was like the Kristen Takeman years.

And I went out to dinner. I was at, I remember Hunt and Fish Club like in Times Square area.
And all the ladies walked in and it was their like post-reunion dinner.

And I think it was like Kristen Takeman. Bethany was there.
I think it was the season that like Ramona threw her glass at Kristen Takeman when she was like swimming in the lake.

And I can tell you, I've never been more excited in my whole life. Like it was the best night of of my life.
Oh, no, it's crazy. I don't think they do it anymore.

Most of the OG franchises, like a lot of the women, they just can't fucking stand each other. What do you make of Melissa and Teresa's reunion? At this point, I don't care what was the catalyst.

It was time. Yeah.
It was time. Do you think it's real, though, or they just want to get back on camera because the show is like not picked up cameras? I think it's real.
You do. Yeah.

I think it's real. Oh, I'm like a negative person, so I think it's fake.
I think it's real. You know, I think that somebody had good intention.

I think that they were probably waiting for Teresa to apologize for so many years and she probably wouldn't.

And she finally was like, here's an olive branch. Right.
And they were like, this is the closest we're going to get to an apology. Let's just move on.
Let's just move on.

It's taken too much time and it's taken too much energy. But they all rely on that money a lot.
They all do rely on that money a lot. It's pretty scary.
I know.

Also, reality TV with your family is not the greatest idea. 100%.

It never goes well. It never goes well.
And honestly, like, it always comes out. Right.
Especially if you're going into it it like fractured. Yeah.

Which I mean like Kim and Kyle were when they first started. Like they were not in a good place.
Of course.

It's just. It was wild.

I mean. That's my first year in L.A.
That's insane. It was.
Were you at any of the filming for season one? Yeah. So my

whole

existence there. There was a group of gay guys.
So Lisa had a gay, Taylor had a gay. Cedric.
Uh-huh. Taylor had a gay.

And Adrian Malouf had a gay.

And they were basically all trying to figure out how to get a spin-off.

Each of the housewives. The gays.
Oh, that's fucking funny. The fucking gays were trying to like, one gay was like, we should all band together.
Good idea. We should all figure this out.
Yeah.

And I immediately was turned off by it because I didn't want her to think. You were like encroaching and being thirsty.
Exactly. So if you see me as season one, I'm normally hiding in the background.

Right. Just because I never wanted her to feel like I was there for something else.
Moocher. Yeah.

And then those gays all basically went away and just kind of stuck around. But I was kind of scared, you know, to be on camera.
Of course. Per season.
Even just getting mic'd up. Like,

you forget that it's on. No, no.
And all you need is one hot mic. All you need is one rogue comic.
All it's

one fucking hot mic. I mean, Lisa Barlow.
Lisa. Lisa.

Lisa Barlow. Was her fucking whore family posing.
By the way, can you imagine?

I know, it's like a human thing. Like you get mad, you just rant to your husband and you rant to whoever and you don't mean it, but like, oh.
Yeah.

And let me tell you, working on that first season of Housewives, I went into that job not knowing what she was doing. What was your job technically? Were you her assistant?

Yeah, it was like her right-hand man.

She told me that she was doing a reality show when I first met her. She didn't tell me what reality show it was.
So when I first met her, she was like, yeah, I'm just going to do this reality show.

I just need you for like three or four months. Have I told you the story? No.

I go to interview with her. She was like, oh yeah, I'm gonna need you for like three or four months.
How did you like know she was looking for an assistant?

Like my, I was work, I worked weddings in Louisiana

every weekend. And one of my bridesmaids was Allie Landry, who basically was like, you should move to LA.

I have this girlfriend who's starting this reality show and I think you would really kid it off with her. Wow.
And I was like, well, I mean, I was thinking about moving in May.

She was like, well, what are you doing in January? I'm like, I'm graduating college. She was like, just move.
Oh, my God. So I was like, Okay.
So I moved to LA.

And when I got to her house, I mean, I was a wreck. Yeah.
I was like, So, when are we going to like meet your friend?

She was like, Oh, I haven't told her that you're here or that, you know, she doesn't know she needs someone, but I think you guys were hitting off. Oh, God.
So, in my mind, I'm like, Wait,

I just blew my fucking life up

for like, you know, for a maybe, yeah.

So, I got a headhunter just in case. Uh-huh.
Because the meeting kept on getting pushed back and pushed back.

I met with this woman. She is an A-list actress.
Are you not going to tell me who it is? I'm not going to tell you who it is.

I went on an interview with her manager, and then the second interview was at this woman's house. With her? With her.
Uh-huh.

I walk in this house. There's a vanity about the size of that wall.
And it's like, you know, I'd never seen a mirror with those walls. You know what I mean? It's old Hollywood.

And this woman is standing in her sitting in her mirror and it's all white in the bathroom. And she is putting lotion on her elbows.
I'll never forget this. And her titties are out.

Like she's not wearing a shirt. The housekeeper was like, oh, she'll see you now.
So you thought you interrupted. No, no.
The housekeeper escorted me up.

And this woman is sitting there with her titties out. Meanwhile, I'm like, I'm a gay man, bitch.
Right. I work retail.
Right. I've seen some titties.
You've seen it all. I've seen some titties.
Yeah.

I'm not afraid of no titties. No, I don't think that you are.
We're having a full conversation. Titties out.
Titties out, Le Maire, and she is not looking at me like this.

She's looking at me in the mirror

and she is lathering that shit on. Oh, my God.

So at the end of the interview, she goes, anything else? I said, yeah, you missed the spot.

And I point at her back and I leave. And by the time I got in the car, she had hit me up.
She wanted me to start.

So did you accept? So I was like, I went home to Allie. I was living at Allie's house.

I was like, listen, bitch, this just happened to me right i don't care if this woman is paying in rupees right i'm fucking taking this job like i want to be with this crazy woman for at least a year yeah she was like no i swear to you this meeting kyle is going to come up so crazy lemera bitch i put on the back burnout kept on pushing her off pushing her off we kept on negotiating back and forth

i meet with kyle and she was like yeah it's gonna be three months and i'm like I don't know, crazy LeMare lady's like, you know, more stable. So Allie was like, think about it this way.

If you take the job with Kyle, Kyle, you'll learn so much on the back end about production and you'll meet people in the industry. Like, you should really take that job.
And I'm like, you know what?

You haven't steered me wrong. I'm going to trust you.
I'm going to take this fucking job.

I show up at this bitch's house on day one.

They're like, can you sign this release form? And I'm like, yeah.

Signed the release form. And when I read the top of the release form,

I was like, holy shit. Yeah.
That's where Housewise at Beverly Hills. Oh, and you had heard of the franchise, like from New York.
Yes. Yes.
OC. I go to her house.

I get in the house and I'm like, listen, ma'am, like you don't know me from Adam. We have met one time at a sushi restaurant.

But this is not just some random reality show.

Your life is about to change. Right.
And you got to play this smart. Yeah.
And she was like, what do you mean? I'm like, three months is not enough. You have to do confessions.

Then you have to do reunions. Then we got to fuck with all these people on Twitter.
Like, this is going to be crazy. Like brand deals.

And she was like, oh, wait. I just thought I was going to just film this fun reality show with my sister.
Is that going to be?

So she ends up going. It's like day three of my, of my job there.
And in her mind, she's still having me for three months. Right.

I'm packing her for New York. Camille is inviting everybody to La Caja house.

I said, you know, before you get on this plane, I'm going to tell you, Camille Grammer is going to come for you. in New York.
Be prepared. She was like,

I don't know. I don't think you're right.
I'm like, I swear to you, Camille is the queen bee of Malibu. You are the queen bee of Beverly Hills.
It's going to be, she's going to come for you.

They always do it. It's, it's, it's text, women textbook 101.

She was like, ha ha, blah, blah, blah. Just make sure it up.
Goes to New York. I get a phone call eight hours later.
She's crying. She's like, I fucking cursed.

I said, you're such a fucking liar, Camille. I don't know.
I can't believe I cursed on camera. Like, oh my God.

I was like, bitch, just so you know, that line is iconic. It's iconic.
Yeah. I'm telling you right now, it's going to be fucking.

You're a fucking liar, Camille. She came home.
She was like, don't go anywhere. Wow.
You're going to be here for a year. I never knew the Justin Sylvester Origin story.
The more you know.

Smoking a Capri with Ally Landry. Not a Capri.
Smoking a Capri. Not an electric cigarette.
At a wedding. No, just a little skinny one.
Obsessed. I know.
I love her. I love you.
I love you.

And I love chatting with you. Did I do all the stories? Did we do five? Yeah, right?

Spotify, Prince Harry. Yeah, we did it.
Okay. Sly things we did.
We had a good little time. Tell everyone about where they can watch you on Sunday.
You guys, Peacock, 8 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.

You don't want to miss it. Heather Gay, myself, Boston Rob, Kate Chestain.
It's going to be a good one. It's for the guys who love football and the girls who pretend they do.
Yeah.

So come right on in. Even the girls who pretend they don't.
Like, it's a perfect thing for husbands and wives, boyfriends, and girlfriends to watch together. By the way, you ain't got to know shit.

I don't know shit. Totally.
Well, Justin, I love you. I love you.

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