Two Tampons, One Girl: Friday, January 10th, 2025

1h 4m
  1. Celebrities flee California wildfires (23:19)
  2. Zach Bryan Claps Back at Trolls in Explosive Instagram Rant After Brianna LaPaglia Split (PEOPLE) (28:24)
  3. Karen Huger checks into rehab after DUI convictions, skips 'RHOP' Season 9 reunion taping (Page Six) (38:37)
  4. Oprah Winfrey, Simone Biles, Kermit the Frog and More Stars Surprise Hoda Kotb on Final Today Broadcast (PEOPLE) (48:42)
  5. Madison LeCroy Reveals Husband Brett Found a Tumor on His Kidney After Thyroid Cancer (PEOPLE) + Southern Charm Recap (52:26)


  • Queenie and Weenie of The Week (57:04)


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Good morning, Millennials.

Welcome back to the toast and

happy

Friday.

I've got it, Claude.

Happy Friday to you.

This doesn't hit in the way that the original does.

I know, but at least we can sing.

At least we can be joyous because it's the end of senior year.

It's graduation day.

Your independence day.

Like, seriously.

First full week of 2025 in the bag.

Congrats to all the grads.

It's so true.

It's probably the weakiest, meatiest week of the year.

It's

wiki feet.

Like, it's the weakest week.

It's the weakiest week.

It's so weak.

Oh, I'm like, the word you're looking for is the weakest, but no, you're saying.

No, no, it's W-E-E-K-Y.

It's so weak.

It's so Wikipedia.

I hate people who say Wikipedia.

It's like, it's Wikipedia or like Wikifeet.

WikiFeet.

Are you okay?

No, but this week was super weak.

You know, but you're saying something entirely different.

You're not saying W-I-K-I.

No, I'm saying it was very much a week.

It was a meaty one, a chewy one.

And we made it through.

And

that's, that's fantastic.

And yeah, it was a lot.

A lot going on, I think, in the world and everyone's lives, in culture.

Like it was kind of a big week.

It was.

I was just thinking that as I was doing the stories today, because the stories have kind of petered out by Friday, which they often do, but mostly because like, especially in Hollywood, like everyone is concerned with the fires.

And it's just like, wow, this week started with such a bang and what a turn it took.

No, I know.

I was thinking the same thing.

I was taking a look at this week at a glance because I was trying to choose my queenie and weenie of the week.

And I was like, oh my God, that was Monday.

No, and what's so crazy is the Golden Globes were on Sunday.

Like everyone in that room is now

evacuated or have lost their homes.

So it's just really the difference a week makes.

I have now ended up on the side of TikTok of people like returning to the sites of their houses that are completely burned down.

And it's like literally so crazy.

But they're sharing things that survived, like things that are like really well made.

So Spencer Pratt shared that his all-clad, like Dutch oven, completely intact.

Like, it's like the only thing he was able to pull out of his house.

This girl, she's going viral.

Remember when that girl's car exploded and her

Stanley?

This girl's the Laney Wilson ex-Stanley collab.

It's like the only thing from her house that was completely untouched and totally fine.

That is so crazy.

And the video went viral now.

Everybody's like, remember Stanley gave that girl a car?

They're going to give this girl a house.

For sure.

Yeah.

For sure.

Well, hopefully, like, things start to get better.

They haven't yet, but hopefully the weekend brings some good news, some change in winds.

Yeah.

A miracle.

What they need is a miracle.

They need like from up high rain or wind change like because it's just.

It's so big.

It's so big.

Sending the utmost love and just everything to everybody who is either evacuated, hunkering down, has already, you know, experienced loss.

It's just a really, it's a tough week.

And so,

and I know we have a lot of listeners in that area.

So I hope you guys are doing okay.

Same.

We're here for you.

I've seen some people be like the toast, not to make about us, but they did.

So it's just like, it was like one hour of just like

calm and joy and a little bit less anxiety.

So that's what we're here to do.

Yes.

And in that spirit.

And for everyone everywhere.

who's having a hard day.

Yes, of course.

Not limited to just one state, of course.

People can use the toast, and that's to make everything about us um but speaking of you know whatever you were just saying i have a crazy thing to tell you i meant to tell you this so you know my husband ben love my life has recently he's kind of been known over the years for his glasses right he wears glasses and he was for a while like very against getting contacts um mostly because he like couldn't hack it he couldn't figure out how to put them in his eyes would get irritated but like a year ago he made a commitment he was like i don't want to wear glasses all the time and he made a commitment to learn and just to like suffer and he now wears contacts most days.

It's like this big transition he's been through, actually.

And I do worry about him sometimes because wearing contacts is like requires a lot of maintenance and a lot of like organization.

And even the way, like when we were going to your house, he was just like throwing loose contacts in.

I'm like, I don't know.

I don't have a good feeling about this.

It requires like a level of maturity and control and organization that I know he doesn't possess.

So I was kind of waiting for like the first thing to happen.

And it's happened.

Yesterday, Ben was like really like dizzy.

He was like seeing like blurry he was wearing two pairs of contacts he had literally forgotten to take out a whole pair and then woke up and put in a second pair it's kind of like but

it reminds me of the time i accidentally put in a second tampon that's where my mind went but i will say this is kind of like that's really bad and scary but this is kind of the second contact infraction because let's not forget when he left a contact on the stair in my house

you think like that makes you special i find three contacts a day no by the the way, and it's actually crazy.

I could tell you if Ben has more multiple contacts in his eyes based on the amount of contacts that I find.

The nightstand, the toilet, the shower.

I have found them.

There isn't a place I haven't found them.

I found them on a can of soda in my fridge.

Okay.

So is he going to keep going down this path?

What about LASIC?

Well, I had then sat him down and I was like, I hate to be such like his mom, you know, not, that's not like a slight towards Ava, like to be someone's mother.

Like to like have to teach them a lesson, but like he thought the whole like double contact thing was funny.

And I was like, it's actually not.

You could have hurt yourself, first of all.

And I just feel like he wasn't taking it seriously enough.

I was, I was actually being like such a lecturer, but who knows?

I mean, you could go blind.

Like you can't just be throwing things in your eyes like that.

Now, LASIK, I think Ben also really does like wearing his glasses, especially from like a style POV.

He wears glasses to our wedding.

Like, so I think he likes having the option.

He has discussed LASIK.

I have fallen down a rabbit hole of LASIK eye surgery conspiracy theories.

And for that reason,

I have something like against LASIK, even even though I don't have enough facts.

Like I'm not going to share what I, like, I don't know much.

What's what are, I've never even heard that there's a anti-LASIC movement.

What do they say?

You know, they just, the kind of the big argument is that the world's leading optometrists all wear glasses.

Like, good enough for thee, but not for me.

Okay, but.

Is there anything more than that?

There is, there is, there is.

Just tell me what's the I can't remember.

Okay.

I can't remember.

Oh, you can't.

Oh my God.

I thought you like really just didn't want to wade into controversy.

I'm like, just throw it out there.

And by the way, I remember our dad growing up got LASIK and it was like the most amazing best thing that ever happened to him.

So I know it like changes people's lives.

Dana Holtzberg got LASIC and she is a changed woman.

But I think it has changed her life.

Ended up on like randomly, like multiple times on TikTok, people talking about the dark side of LASIC.

But you can't remember exactly.

I can't.

I can't.

I'm sorry.

I can't remember.

Okay.

Okay.

That's fine.

You'll tell me offline.

So I brought it up.

No, no, no, no.

I'm not hiding it from you.

I don't have to tell you anything.

Just look it up.

When you remember.

Okay.

When I remember, like that ever happens.

I'm going to, can I Google it?

Yeah, be like, what?

Be like, conspiracy.

What's a negative LASIC?

I'll just search conspiracy.

Yeah.

Even though Google won't give me that.

I'll have to go to like.

No, I feel like with the new

Google AI, what's it called?

At the top.

Oh, Gemini, our friend Gem.

She tells me everything I need.

She's a Gem.

No matter how controversial.

I love that.

I hope she doesn't get corrupted.

No, she is everything.

Although she does sometimes spread misinformation.

Okay, so here are the debunked LASIKs myths.

So you know that's the real one.

Yeah, of course they're quote debunked.

One, physicians would never have LASIC on their own eyes.

Yes, you said the lighting kind of,

well, I also feel like it's a surgery that if you see it, you can't do it.

Like it's really a weird looking surgery.

No, I don't agree.

I'm gonna, I'm not gonna go with that one.

That one's just like, that's not real.

Two, contacts are safer than LASIK.

Okay, but why is LASIC unsafe?

LASIC significantly increases the risk of glare and halos.

Yes, yes, yes.

But that's like, did you see this?

I saw recently, this isn't giving me what I thought it was going to give me.

Like, I saw recently that root canals can lead to breast cancer.

Yeah, I saw that too on the skin confidential.

Like,

okay, rotten to.

Yeah.

I,

again, like I said, I don't know enough about the LASIC controversy to wade in, but you were the one who wanted to bring Gemini into this.

And like, now we've said it.

So to answer your question originally.

Like, dry eye is extremely common.

I'm sorry.

These are not like

Ben hasn't gotten LASIC.

That's a part of it.

I don't know.

Maybe he should.

That's a part of it.

Like, I'm not sure if you can see it.

Maybe you've got some glasses what's the lesson here because like ben is always gonna be ben so what's the lesson what's the takeaway i tried to instill a lesson in him being like he doesn't even have like an area where he keeps the contacts like they're just loose he's just really crazy about it and it's like i don't even know like teenagers wear contacts so like you have to just stay on top of it and he's so he's just so relaxed i just feel like Contacts are such a habitual thing.

It's actually not something that you can add to your life later in life.

Like you either like Margo like starting contacts when you're eight and like, she does it in her sleep.

Like she knows.

Yeah.

It's so innate.

But for Ben to like pick this up at 30, like it's just, it's not in his muscle memory.

It's muscle memory.

Uh-huh.

I think he should go back to glasses.

That's what I'll say.

Okay.

I understand Lasic would not be for him because like, what then?

He's going to get fake glasses because he still needs to wear glasses.

He's the nerd who takes off his glasses and everybody realizes he's handsome.

When you, for the first, and for me, the only time I ever put in two tampons, like, what was your

immediate thought or immediate takeaway?

So I've never done it.

Oh.

However, like it, it, it, the idea haunts me.

I'm always like when back in the day, and I feel like we also need to talk about tampons at some point.

Please, not right now.

Like you and your feet flowing, like please.

Not right now, but like you guys, everyone in like has reached enlightenment.

So the girlies aren't wearing tampons.

Let me tell you about the time I took out two tampons of my vagina.

But no, but I just want to say, like,

when I, and also I'm someone who changes tampon every time I pee.

So, like, there's a lot of tampon changing.

It was always like, oh my God, did I take out my tampon?

Like, you get drunk.

Oh my God.

What's going on with my tampon?

When you are drunk on your period, changing tampons in the middle of the night, that is where things get really tricky.

And if you've ever taken a compact mirror, like literally up at your vagina, like you know, I was at a camp friend's house the first and only time I had two tampons in.

And I was

shocked.

First at like the size of my own vagina.

I was like, literally, how is that possible?

I just thought.

Just wait till you have a baby.

I know.

I just thought like the inside of my vagina was big enough for one tampon and one tampon only.

Like it wouldn't physically fit.

And I guess I'd forgotten to take one out and then put a second one in.

And actually, I was at the perfect place because I remember the girl whose house I was at, she was like, oh, it's like not a big deal.

My mom wears two tampons because I guess she like had a bigger vagina from like having babies.

I'm sorry.

No, her mom doesn't.

That's what she had said.

And I was like, oh, okay.

So it's not like

I've damaged myself.

That's the crazy part about this story.

I was lied to.

Not that you, not like whether you were lied to, or if this girl's mom is seriously wearing two tampons.

They make bigger tampons.

Yeah, but why would she lie?

I feel like she's living.

Why can't she wear two tampons?

No, that's not a thing.

That's not a thing.

That's so dangerous.

So interesting how that moment like informed so much of my like vaginal health.

You think you grow up and share wearing two tampons?

No, not that you grow up, but like some women who like, you know,

have had photo IPs or whatever.

Yeah, they throw in two.

Okay, maybe I'm misinformed.

No, no, maybe you're not.

The sweetest thing I've ever heard.

Well, she said her mom did it.

And so it just made me feel better in the moment because I like felt so irresponsible for letting one sit extra long.

TSS.

Well, I'm glad that she could alleviate like an unburden you with that little

void, but I'm pretty sure it's so unsafe and that people aren't doing it

intentionally.

Yeah.

Actually, reminds me of a story a friend of mine told me where she was having sex with someone and they found a tampon.

Classic.

It was a classic friend of mine story.

Literally.

I feel like everybody has everyone has a friend who has

literally like getting fucked and they found the tampon.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I guess we'll save tampons.

We'll talk about tampons at a later date.

It's obviously not top of mind for you right now.

No, if you're not having your period.

How's that going?

It's it's actually not going

in the way that I thought it would.

That's always been something where I'm like, yeah, being pregnant is hard, but like one of the few like

benefits like to your well-being is like, well, you're not getting your period.

It hasn't even crossed my mind.

What I'm going through is so much harder and worse than a period.

Like, my period could never.

I just had the craziest thought.

Like, something that I wouldn't, something that I would never say on the show, but like, now that I've said it, I just feel like it's so funny.

What?

Now that I've thought it, like, today I'm dressed like an unused tampon,

head to toe,

gray,

and you're dressed like a used one.

Okay, I am definitely dressed I'm dressed like a used one on day one because like it's giving old blood

and I Love I love this line of

dress like the one that got stuck up Yeah, but let me ask you a question

Your tampons are gray

white cotton, you know Yeah, you're wearing gray to be clear.

I know but like still it's giving tampons a thousand percent I love like describing clothing in reference to different menstrual phases like remember my old period sweater that had like

different shades of red?

It's in the basement going in the toast museum.

Yes.

Do you have that sweater?

No, I wish.

I'm pretty sure I, and I was just talking about this with Ben yesterday.

Like when I lost all that weight, I was like, I will never be fat again.

Like, and everything that was bigger than a size medium legitimately went in the trash to Goodwill or to like somebody I know.

The way I would kill someone for a piece of that clothing right now, like I have just sort of given up.

I'm wearing like things that don't flatter me, things that don't fit.

I'm not buying new new clothes.

I got so ahead of myself on Ozempic and getting pregnant through a total wrench in there.

And I knew I was like, God willing, one day going to get pregnant.

And I just like, I was in such control of my body back then.

No, I was like, listen, I have control of my health.

I work out every day.

I will be one of those pregnant women who eats well and works out.

Like, and I will just have a bump and I will just get like, you know, a big crew neck.

My toe smirch will cover me for a few months.

Like, that's actually what I thought.

Meanwhile, I'm like actually fat.

I'm not even like having my bump is whatever.

My body is huge.

Like, I'm so the opposite of the type of pregnant woman I thought I was going to be.

Well, I suggested to you earlier this week an idea that we would also vlog.

But I feel like it's

where we do closet swap, where like I make a box of like 10 things for you.

Yeah.

Like pregnancy items that I think you would like, which I should just do anyway because it sounds like you need it.

You know, I just like hate bringing things into my home.

Okay, but you need clothes.

Why?

This size medium fits great.

Or maybe like, maybe you could partner with some, some brands to send you stuff, like hatch.

No, like, I'm fine.

Like, you're really generous.

but i'm not bothered by the way that i look i think other people might be a little perturbed in the streets but for me like fuck it you know oh okay that's not the vibe that i was getting i was hearing like complaining it wasn't complaining i was just remarking on a regret of mine like throwing away all those clothes like i would be in a much better place right now if i had my whole i was plus size for so many years i invested in like actually good shit and then i was like i'll never need it again

Yeah, spoiler alert, she needed it again.

I don't think that should be a regret of yours.

Like,

I don't think so.

Okay.

Let's hear your biggest regret.

You can look at yourself a few things.

My biggest regret, well, you know, regrets, we wouldn't be where you are now.

Regrets, I've had a few.

So, of course, every regret has led me to my, where I am.

So, like,

I have smaller regrets, you know, like for the color that I registered on my wedding registry for the Dutch oven that I got.

Like, I wish I did a different color.

Yeah.

Small, like, not life-changing regrets.

Of course, the teen tour.

That is a big thing.

That's like my big regret that wouldn't have changed the trajectory of my life.

I just would have had a better summer.

You never should have been on that teen tour.

Jack.

You never should have been on that teen tour.

Everyone knows regret.

Based teen tours.

Just

everyone knows about my teen tour regret.

I've definitely told the story on the Patreon before, but I went on a teen tour one summer and I didn't have a good time and I wish I didn't go.

You also left early.

And I did leave early after giving it like a fair shot.

And now in hindsight, I can recognize all the reasons why it wasn't for me, like why I shouldn't have gone.

But at the time, I thought it was a good idea.

Of course, like all your friends were going.

So it's like, how bad could it be?

Yeah,

it was bad.

You guys know my biggest regret is not getting in that cop car that one time.

I won't tell the story again.

Not a life-changing regret.

Of course, there are so many other things.

I don't know.

I could have pursued a job in the field documentary.

No, a job in the field.

Like maybe that would have like really tickled my or instead of becoming like a comedy pop culture podcaster, it would have propelled me to like true

Okay, so it would have changed the course of your life, but I don't think you're interested in changing the course of your life.

That's why, like, of course, I've made mistakes in my life that I wish I didn't, you know, but they've led me to where I am right now.

So I can't regret them too much.

It's a very healthy outlook.

That's why my regrets are, as far as things I would change, are small.

Okay, that's beautiful.

I think so.

Yeah.

Well, should the two tampons get to tamponing and do what we came to do do here today?

I think so.

I think that we should.

We talked enough about periods to last me five years.

Yeah, well, I'm not going to be able to talk about my period for quite a bit more time.

And I know a lot of people are missing my monthly check-ins.

Right.

Right.

But at least like the pregnant women are getting pregnancy check-ins.

So true.

And they feel seen.

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And the list is like growing.

But now some celebs are like hunkering down together.

One, and it's giving like reconciliation question mark first.

Peter Facinelli and Jenny Garth.

Peter, Jenny Garth, with her husband, though, he's kind of in the way, fled to her ex-husband, Peter Facinelli's house.

Ben Affleck went to J-Lo's house.

Oh my God, he did.

Harry and Megan are opening their home to friends to stay with them.

And I just, I feel like this is the beginning of could be something.

This is how things start.

Like when people lock down together in COVID, what was it?

Yeah.

Cara Delavine and

Ashley Benson.

Yeah, did they lock down together?

Is that how they got together?

Maybe, but it definitely accelerated people's relationships.

Yes.

Yeah.

So that's sweet.

That is sweet.

Very nice of people to open their homes, of course, if they're in a safe place and they have friends who have evacuated.

But it's just interesting.

A lot of big personalities in a house.

Yes.

Also, I think like following Spencer Pratt has been really interesting because they're like really sort of just like nomads right now.

They were able, they were like part of the first evacuators, but they were able to pack up a lot of stuff.

So they just like took clothes and Spencer was posting like, I don't even know what I took.

Like this stuff in his suitcase was like so dumb.

But he also shared that he was one of the people who lost fire insurance a couple of months ago.

So

they're sort of like screwed.

Oh my gosh.

I know.

And they're like obviously celebrities, but like they're, they're not like they have to work.

Like they work like they won't just like sit back and get checks mailed to them.

Yeah

Wow, that's really scary.

That's a really bad place to be in I know he's been sharing all of it on TikTok and then they went back to the site of their

former home and it was just like smithereens like it was ashes.

It was really crazy.

Kelly Teller also posted today like a picture of their house and what it looks like today and there's no house.

That is so sad.

And her caption like really made me like like want to cry and she's like, I wish I grabbed my wedding dress.

Like it was just some people were given like a little bit of time to evacuate and pack.

Like now that, because like the, the, I almost said FDNY, like the fire department is like kind of staying on top of things.

There are certain areas that are giving like warnings to evacuate.

So you pack, but you don't go anywhere.

But at the beginning, like when Spencer and Heidi, they were one of the first people whose houses.

I don't know where they live, what area it is, but probably the Palisades, because that was like the first area that was really hit.

They were sort of given like

no time.

Yeah, I saw Paris Hilton posted her house.

I mean, seriously, like the number of celebrities at the time.

Paris Hilton found out from the news.

Like, they were just

showing a house.

Right.

And she wrote like how this home, like, how much it meant to her, how much it means to her family.

And it's just like, it's really devastating.

Of course, like, there's regular people whose stories we don't know, but these are also people whose stories that we do know.

So that's just, it just, like, it's everyone.

Leighton Meester and Adam Brody.

Yes.

I think I saw Eugene Levy as well.

Anthony Hopkins.

So crazy.

This is like one of the craziest things things in like modern history.

Yeah.

Because it's like, there's nothing I can even compare it to.

Like there have been other California wildfires, obviously, that have been like devastating.

Like the, um, I feel like the most recent one was, but this is like unlike anything I've ever seen in my lifetime.

Yeah.

And I don't know if it's been contained at all yet.

No, I was seeing even this morning, there are a lot of fires that are at 0% containment still.

And then, of course, there's the arson, which is now.

Yes, they arrested someone.

They arrested someone.

I've seen a couple videos now yes of people starting little fires everywhere and then i was watching the press conference last night of like the fire chief and like the mayors of like these smaller counties and the fire chief was like i can't speak on fatalities the police department has to because we haven't ruled out arson and if these are fatalities caused by arson it's like literally murder Yeah, so it was really crazy.

Yeah.

Also, then the looting.

I'm sure you've seen that too.

Yes.

Dozens of people going into evacuated businesses.

Hurricane Katrina.

Stealing from home.

So now this is like, this is crime, theft, art.

It is humanity at its worst.

At its absolute worst.

And I hope that they meet the justice that they so richly deserve.

And I hope the police are out in full force and getting it done.

The animals, like, it's so sad.

There's so many different like levels to this

devastation.

But like I've seen, like there's a TikTok sound going around because this guy was like the animals in LA like don't know what to do they don't know where they are there was like this bunny like who looked lost and he was talking to the bunny he's like you're on pico whatever and so people are

so people are using that sound to just like show random animals in people's front yards like a wolf not a wolf so like you know I don't know what the like the native California animals are but like they have a lot of animals a lot they do and a lot of forestation so like there's a lot of animals that live there and they're all like coming down fleeing coming out of the forest walking in the street yeah It's so crazy.

Yeah.

So that's a bit of an update.

Hopefully by Monday, we'll have some better news.

Yeah.

Like we'll be at the end of it.

Yeah.

It will have been like a week.

Yeah.

Hopefully, hopefully there's like an end in sight.

Yeah.

Our next story, switching gears.

Yeah.

Zach Bryan is clapping back at trolls in an explosive Instagram rant after his split.

So he's been relatively quiet since everything has gone down.

I mean, his name has been like absolutely ruined.

Did you see he has a new girly?

Rightfully so.

No, I did not see that.

It's like real underground, like TikTok, like discovery.

She's just like, it's, it's crazy how these people like really follow a blueprint.

They don't even like attempt to change up.

It's like a really young girl who's a really big fan of his and

yeah.

Damn.

I was actually thinking he probably does because he was cheating on her the whole time.

Yep.

There are plenty of um

girls that wouldn't care girls, especially if you're super young and just like naive and don't understand like the dynamics that you could fall into, something like that.

Um, and then I'm sure he's also super charming, like when he wants to, of course, it's easy to get swept away.

He's a rock star, right?

Right.

So he posted on his Instagram and he's since gone private because I went to go look at it.

I'm like, am I blocked?

But no, he's private.

He didn't

imagine Jack getting blocked.

I just want, well, she would make that a title.

Like, I'm so sick of not being clickbaity.

Jack's blocked by Zach Bryan, comma, story time.

Well, also, I was only on alert because yesterday someone sent me a post.

Yes.

And I clicked it and I said, it said media not found.

I was like, you know,

they deleted it.

And they were like, no, you either have them blocked or they blocked you.

I've never heard of this account in my whole life.

So they had blocked me.

They had blocked me as well.

They had blocked the redheads.

And they had the toast.

They had blocked Claude with no job.

The thing is, it's not a person.

It's like an account.

I can't even remember the name because I've never heard of them before.

So it's not like T that I'm not sharing.

I genuinely don't know who, but like, I don't know why this person even knows who I am that they would block the redheads.

jackie you're a star the redheads are extremely threatening they're extremely influential maybe we like did a nasty review of their book no they don't have a book

i don't even know who this person is no it's not a person it's like it's not a person it's like an information account yeah like poopa da peepa yeah you know like they like spread like actual want to know they spread like actual like lies lies misinformation like especially about like israel so i guess that's where where we lost them yeah but it's like crap that you care about yeah yeah Crap you should, shit you should know.

But it wasn't shit you should know.

No, is that an account?

Oh, sorry.

We're not talking about that, that account.

No, we're not talking about that account.

We don't even know what account we're talking about.

Yeah, because we can't remember the name.

Because we're blocked.

Okay, here's what Zach Bryan said.

Oh, right.

When he didn't block me.

Said, also, all you fucking weird couch warriors attacking and belittling my friends on the internet because you're assuming I have a girlfriend are weird as hell and should be studied for science.

Everyone wonders why I quit touring and don't want to to be attached to music anymore.

Meanwhile, you're calling my friends ugly and harassing them.

Well, maybe it's his friend girl and then they called her ugly.

I don't know what people on the internet are.

She was cute.

I didn't see people calling her ugly.

I think they were like, oh no, girl, we feel bad for you.

Like, let us save you, not get ugly.

You know?

He said, I'm not asking for sympathy, but going for my friends is so low and so messed up.

Apparently, I've had four different girlfriends in like two weeks.

Meanwhile, my friends and me are just laughing and hanging out like we always have.

The thing is, this is really not the type of behavior somebody at his level of celebrity should be engaging with like there are rumors started about big celebrities all the time like this is a person who's playing arenas and stadiums like do you see like bruno morris commenting on what people say about him actually we've been begging him to comment on the allegations that he's 50 million dollars in debt and he finally did the other day did you see no uh he posted like something um i think he had a show in vegas or something he posted and the caption was like paying off my debt like finally it was like a confirmation that it's not true but that he knows that we've all been saying right but he literally just said it's true no like,

ha ha ha, Jackie, and like this emoji, you know?

I'm just saying.

Like, it could also just be true.

Oh, can we talk about ah, pata, pa ta, ah, pata.

I fucking love that song.

Fucking love that song.

You know who loves that song?

Kids.

Yeah.

Play that.

It's giving like it's going to be the next happy Pharrell Williams.

I just want to say, like, I or someone should start a playlist of, like, popular songs that kids also really like.

So you can, like, listen to, like, real music.

Got that sunshine in my pocket.

Got that good good song that's one even though that's from a kids movie but still you know what else I found that they like

dynamite by BTS 1000 fucking slap I actually think a lot of k-pop is like engineered to be like not addictive but kind of like Josie and the pussycats like young people friendly it's like it's it is engineered for people to like it and so it gets into your brain and yeah yeah um and i just love bruno mars i've actually recently started following him on social media i've always been like a fan of his music

And I never followed him on Instagram.

The other day, because Apata is like taking over, he like came across my feet.

I'm like, you know what?

Like, fuck it.

I'm going to follow Bruno Mars.

Like, I'm crazy, but I'm free, you know?

It's been such a joy.

And I find that he's like so top of mind for me now as like a celebrity.

And I really love him.

I feel like we don't talk about him enough.

We don't talk about him.

And we talk about him more than most people.

And I feel like people don't even realize.

I don't follow him, which is weird because I love him so much.

And my beloved Bruno is literally named for Bruno Mars.

People don't realize that.

No, they don't.

It's literally Zach and I's, Zach and I's favorite artist together.

How many Bruno Mars.

But he's so famous.

So I think I remember being like shocked at how many followers he has.

Can you check?

I believe he has like 50 million.

He's really so famous.

41 million.

And the apata is huge for him too, because Rose

is like a global artist as well.

She is, and she's from Black Pink.

So it all comes full circle for me, my faves.

And then he also just had a song with Lady Gaga, another fave

of mine.

That song.

Like those are my pictures.

I feel like it didn't take off that song.

I know.

In the way that it should have, given the fact that it was two like mega mega stars and neither one of them have released music in a while.

Yeah, I think it was just because it wasn't as like pussy popping as people expected.

It was just like a nice, beautiful song.

People don't like Zagby.

That's why everybody hates us.

That's why everybody hates us.

That's why everybody hates us.

They like that is so gorgeous.

And ugly things.

And positive.

Well, speaking of ugly, let's go back to Zach Bryan.

So,

yeah, he's just go, like, he has his Instagram story with like a lot of text over it.

Like, it's kind of like a girly way to respond to something.

I just want to say, not only, like, is it not like the behavior of like a man of his age, but it's also not a behavior of like someone of his celebrity and stature.

It's giving like real housewife spiral.

And every time he has like social media drama with like the Taylor Swift tweet, he always ends up like releasing statements.

And it's like, you are so famous.

You are so wealthy.

Like, just do your music and like go live, be happy, get off the internet.

Like Like

it's losery.

Like, and I always find like,

if that were me and I had all this like real fame and money, like you would not catch me getting involved in the sewers that is the internet anymore.

Like, I'm here because I have to.

This is my job.

But, like, if it wasn't, oh, you wouldn't catch me here.

Yeah.

I feel like for him, the best thing that he can do, especially in this moment when his

personal

being called into question.

It's just like focus on the music.

People really do love his music.

His music's not being canceled.

Just like.

It's kind of his saving grace, like his talent is like the one thing we can't deny.

A musician, like leave the Instagram story and like to Brianna chicken fry.

Leave it to us.

We have got it covered.

Yeah.

Oh my God.

Ben rolls over in bed this morning and he had been like scrolling on his phone.

He's like, are you seeing this Jersey Mics drama?

Claudia, I literally was going to ask, like, what's the beef with Jennifer Aiden and Jersey Mike's?

I've seen it.

I'm like, it's reached such a level that I went looking for the video.

I'll tell you.

So I was like, like, what, Jersey Mike's?

I thought they had like a hysteria outbreak or something.

He was like, this housewife.

I'm like, oh, oh, yeah, for sure.

It actually is crazy how big it's gotten.

Ben had never even heard of the name Jennifer Aiden and Ben knows Margaret.

Like Ben's not unfamiliar with the housewives.

It's gotten to such a level.

It was such a crazy fucking thing for her to post.

She was in the airport and went to Jersey Mike's and like had a negative experience with the customer service.

And

it's my opinion that she was in the wrong, like in the argument.

But even if she was, even if this person was behind

the sandwich counter being like a dick her reaction was so fucking crazy she started screaming at other people in line filming the staff saying i'm a celebrity like uh my husband's a medical doctor like but in like the nastiest tone that you could possibly like i'm a fucking celebrity who the fuck are you who the fuck are you and then filming the poor girl just trying to make fucking sandwiches like it it was so disgusting it was such a level it really was such a bad look for housewives a bad look for celebrities a bad look for women like it was just horrible.

Then

Ben had seen it because she went on like a radio show or something and was talking about it, like giving her apology or whatever.

She maintains that she was in the right, you know.

I think the issue was that they were going to make her get back online.

It was a long line in the airport and they were going to make her get back online to order something else, but she was like, I haven't even paid yet.

So it was just like an argument about like the protocol for the line.

And she maintains that she was in the right.

She was like, I hadn't paid yet.

I wanted another sandwich, yada, yada.

And she, of course, respects people in service.

This is what she actually said, right?

She said, I grew up working in service, you know?

My family's are jewelers.

That's not the same as working at Jersey Bikes.

She said, I have so much respect for service.

I grew up in the service industry.

My husband works in the service industry.

Your husband's a fucking plastic surgeon.

Like, that's the service industry now?

No.

It was so toned up.

She is, I have, like, she is awful.

Like, this is actually,

you see, you see someone's true character.

Like, it was so

upsetting.

And Ben was like, like, it can't have been that bad.

So I made him go on TikTok and search the video.

He was

floored.

Like it is one of the most shocking.

I feel like videos like that go viral all the time, not of celebrities, but just like, I'm at her rental car and whatever.

And it was one of the worst I'd seen, honestly, like celebrity or non-celebrity.

It was really, and just knowing who she is and like how she lives, like, it was so disgusting.

No, and it's not dying down.

Like every, it's like Jennifer Aiden, Jersey Mike's, like, because her apology was terrible.

Like, she keeps making it worse.

Yeah.

no it's that's really bad you know who i'm actually speaking of the real houses in jersey i've recently started like engaging in content with is rachel fuda i liked her when she was on but she's like a you know relatively new housewife but she is pregnant And so her content, her content has just sort of like found me.

I think I'm like in her demographic.

And she's a cutie.

I actually like her a lot.

I hope they, I don't know what the plan is for Jersey.

And I know people didn't like her because like she was on Margaret's side.

And I think like the tree huggers were like team

Teresa over Melissa.

But I think Rachel Fuda was great.

I actually really like her.

And she has like a nice big house, which is really all I care about.

Yeah, I like her too.

I wonder what they're going to do there.

I know.

And it's been a long time, like a lot of silence.

Yeah.

Well, are you ready for our next story?

Another end of an era.

Yes, but really quickly, while we're just talking about Bravo, do you see also Karen Huger did not show up to the Potomac reunion?

Well, that's a good idea.

Oh, but it will be now.

Okay,

I don't know if it made like the fast five fodder, so I just thought it should be mentioned.

For Friday, Friday, yeah.

Karen Huger checked into rehab after her DUI conviction and skipped the Potomac Season 9 reunion taping.

So, Real House has a Potomac star Karen Huger has checked herself into rehab following her DUI conviction in December.

Her rep revealed the news Thursday after Bravo released a seating chart for the highly anticipated season nine reunion.

The graphic showed where each of the cast members were assigned to sit in relation to each other and the moderator, and she was noticeably missing.

So, her rep told the Daily Dish that Karen made the important decision to enter a private recovery program, so she was unable to attend the reunion taping today.

He noted that his client was fully supported in this choice.

He said, we stand behind Karen as she embarks on this meaningful journey and are proud of her for taking such a significant step forward in her personal growth.

Now, I might be biased because, like, I will seriously stand the grand dame till I die.

And generally, like a housewife not showing up to a reunion is such an unforgivable thing for me.

Like, I never was able to look at Adrian Malouf the same.

Never be able to look at Lisa Vanderprop the same.

Even like two years ago, when Sutton Strack had like a cough and left and went to the hospital, like, please, you know,

I know.

It's such weak behavior.

For the network.

She's come back from it, though.

It's like a

fireplace.

Yes, it is.

It is.

But this, I mean, I didn't watch the season of Potomac, so I can't really say like, where, is she hiding from something, though?

And I will make excuses for her

forever.

Probably.

But I feel like.

Especially with this being the reason for why she's gone, not just she's like skipping out, though she could be skipping out and using this as a reason um i feel like there's a way for her to still be on the show 1000 to me this is not like sort of crossing that line in the sand that not showing up for the reunion generally does but also that rule has kind of shifted they've gotten a little relaxed because think about mary cosby like she was probably the person who had the most to answer for what was that like that second or third season of the real housewives of salt lake city and she did not show up and then she did not return like she was not asked back but she has since returned she is being lauded for her performance this season.

I don't know if you've seen that she's been, she filmed this season, this

scene and then also has been like keeping everybody abreast on her son just sort of opening up to her, like telling her that he's addicted to drugs.

And she had literally no idea.

It's like the most, I watched it, I was crying.

Like it was real, she was so upset and she was like trying to like not react in a poor way.

She just like could not believe what she was hearing, like talking about cocaine, like all these drugs that he was doing.

And he has since like, and him coming to her was like this moment of like kind of rock bottom, like wanting help.

And they're, you know, actively working on it.

She gave an update on what happens live but so she's having like this amazing season and she is someone who we forget didn't show up to a reunion which in most cases would have been yeah well lane she wasn't on the next season so yes maybe you could like i think lisa vanderpum could come back to beverly hills now and it has nothing to do with whether or not she went to the reunion but like i think it's typically like you will not be on the show any longer anything can change in the future though yeah so with karen huger i don't feel like this is bad faith i think it's like a very reasonable excuse also the footage that came out of her arrest, like she was blackout.

Like it was giving alcoholic.

Yeah.

You know, where she's saying she's Thomas Jefferson's concubine.

Did you see her say that?

The video footage, it's actually on par with Luann's arrest.

Like there's a camera.

I saw herself calling herself the grand dom.

Yeah, because she's like the camera.

There is a camera in the front seat.

Like seriously, it's real housewives level production.

And then also in the interrogation room, it was really crazy behavior.

I actually did not recognize her.

And so I can see her actually having an issue and her taking care of that is of the utmost utmost importance.

So whether or not, like, I don't know.

Also, it's like maybe she went to rehab to get out of the reunion, maybe, but at least she's like now in rehab.

So she needs it.

So unless she's like lying about going to rehab, which I don't think she is for one second, because that would be like an absolutely fireable offense.

But like, if she's in rehab, even if she did it to get out of the reunion, like she's doing a good thing.

Agreed.

I, and I support Karen Wright's wrongs and Karen, Karen Wright, Karen Huger's wrongs and Karen Huger's rights.

And I just, I love.

And when you've put in as much work as she has to that franchise, we're like, so many women phoned it in for so long, Robin Dixon.

She's allowed to take a break.

Yeah, I agree.

And yeah, we're definitely being hypocritical.

And oh my God.

So The Traitors season three premiered last night.

And I don't know if you saw this saga when they announced.

It's so funny how that show really covers a wide range of reality TV.

So a lot of fans of like survivor, big brother come in, and then they're meeting these Bravo people for the first time.

And same for the Bravo people.

They're meeting all these like bachelor people.

And this tweet had went viral when they were announcing the the cast.

Somebody put, who was unfamiliar with the house size, put up a picture of Robin Dixon.

And they were like, oh, cannot wait to meet this queen.

Like, I just have a feeling she's going to be like the biggest, baddest trader of all, just based on vibes.

Okay.

Oh my God, the tweet went so viral.

Everyone was like.

She, you think she can catch a trader?

She literally couldn't even catch her husband cheating on her for five years.

He was sleeping right next to her.

Like the tweets, Jackie, it was one of the funniest things that ever happened.

Like he was just like making a prediction.

He could not have been more wrong in his trader's prediction.

And the Bravo fans were like, I'm going going to hold your hand when I say this.

She's going to get out first.

Yeah.

Like, she is actually not cut out for the Trader's Life.

She, like, attached herself to Giselle for so many years.

Like, she's actually,

she's not good at the game.

And it's so funny.

It premiered last night and

it just reminded me of that saga.

I'm sure she is.

I don't know.

I don't watch Traders, but it just premiered and it reminded me because like Dorinda's now making the rounds doing she's on the season.

Or was she on last season?

I can't remember.

I think she's on this season.

The cast was announced a while ago and now it's premiere.

Yes.

Yeah.

I hate that.

Yeah.

I'm confused.

I think with like all these reality stars, it's actually really hard to keep things under wraps.

Like they have such loose lips.

They go on Instagram Live.

They go on Jeff Lewis.

I think they're just like, oh, they're like missing for three months.

So you know they did something.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So it is tough.

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our next story hoda copy's final today show broadcast broadcasted and she was joined by a number of stars including oprah simone biles kermit the frog jamie lee curtis dwayne wade kristen chenoweth um now i happen to think like when people cry on tv about like leaving their jobs or like someone's retiring and like i don't know i just think i'm like a little sensitive to people crying on tv tv i'm like okay stop especially about like their job

all the the things that i feel about that like do not apply here like for me hoda's so different i can't explain maybe it's like because i'm a new yorker but like i love the job that she's done over the last couple of years it's a hard job she's so family friendly she's such a queen she's like friends with so many celebs everybody who knows her like loves her i can only imagine what she's really like like in person because if everybody you meet only i've never had have you ever heard a celebrity who doesn't like hoda or like beef with hoda yeah no and that's hard by the way it's hard to to avoid any sort of controversy when you meet the biggest celebrities every single day for the last 30 years.

Like, I'm telling you, she's just a queen.

Like, I have a good feeling about her.

And I think so many people, like, kind of like the Ellen, right?

We're suspicious.

No, that could never happen to Hoda.

I'm telling you.

Yeah.

Also, when someone's crying about like leaving their job, it's like, okay, stay.

What if you just stayed?

Yeah, no, obviously she's made a hard choice and it's a hard choice and it's bittersweet.

So you're allowed to be emotional about that.

No, and when you think about like what she's experienced, like lived through at the network, like the Matt Lauer of it all, like she's really been

there

for a lot.

And then also like cultural moments, cultural events, like I think she was like literally on air on 9-11, right?

Like the amount of things that you just have lived through in a job like that is so crazy.

And everybody loves her.

Everybody speaks so highly of her.

Like she's just a queen.

I feel like when we're talking about like the depraved world of Hollywood celebrities, it's so important to like keep a list of people who are definitely not on that like demonic pedophile list.

And like Hoda is definitely a queen.

Yeah.

And also you have to think about the people who watch every day and how she's such an important part of their day.

It's so true.

Yeah.

And like this

is exciting and bright.

And now Scarjo will be a part of their day for a week.

Right.

But let's, you know, just remember the good times.

Yeah.

The good times roll.

My friend.

Let the good time rolling with the homies.

Rolling with the homies.

I feel like they said goodbye to Hoda like a lot.

I feel like ever since she announced, it's been like four months of everyone coming on the show and being aware of it.

I feel like we have fully processed her departure.

Yeah.

If you had asked me if I had to go on for like a little too long.

If you had asked me, I would have said she already left.

No, the fact that she, like, they said at the end of the year, but she did a whole week of work.

Of New Year.

Yeah.

In January.

It should have like been a 2024 EOI farewell.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But you're like, okay, now it's over.

But it's a proper goodbye for a woman of her stature.

I totally agree.

And, you know, good luck.

Goodbye, farewell, Avida Sena.

Adieu.

Adieu.

Adieu.

Adieu.

No, she's really like a television icon, a cultural icon, a New York icon.

And thank you for your work, Hoda.

One final farewell.

Yeah.

Again.

Goodbye.

That's beautiful.

Goodbye.

I like that vibrato.

Okay.

Our fifth and final story is a story and a little bit of Southern Charm recap.

It's a story.

It's a story and

of Southern Charm recap because last night on Southern Charm, which I watched because I wouldn't miss a week, Madison LaCroix revealed that her husband Brett found a tumor on his kidney after having thyroid cancer.

So Madison shared on the show last night in a FaceTime call with her mom, where not to like take away from the moment, like Madison was looking insanely gorgeous and beautiful.

So it's important that everybody.

Oh my God, she's like sitting on her porch swaying in like this beautiful dress with the American flag like waving in the wind behind her, like on FaceTime with her mom.

And I'm sure she didn't like mean to just be so party.

She's so iconic.

And I'm just like, literally, like jaw hit the floor.

She posted like her look later on Instagram, like shop the look.

I'm like, click, click, click.

Of course, the dress is from Tucker Nook.

Of course.

That's so Madison LaCroix.

It's so Madison LaCroix, but she shared some really sad news because her husband's having all these like health issues in the last few months.

He had thyroid cancer that they thought that they beat, and then he was still like having trouble swallowing.

He, they found a tumor on his

kidney.

So she's just like, she said, this is the hardest year of her life.

Like, she's like, I don't know where, how he is like today because we're just watching it unfold on the show.

But they also had plans to try and have a child this year that have been like completely put on hold.

So like, she's just really going through it.

She's such a queen.

Like, she's literally one of the greatest people on reality TV.

And I feel like she, she gets a lot of praise, but like not enough.

No, she gets like niche praise like within her community, but globally, on a global scale, like she should be on Traders.

On a global scale, like, and also like the A-Rod of it all.

I always forget.

Me too.

Some people don't know that J-Lo and A-rod broke up literally because of Madison LaCroix.

Right.

And last night's episode of Southern Charm was also pretty Craig and Page heavy, which is just a coincidence because she doesn't film that much.

Like, right, which is not the problem.

She didn't like going.

And you would think someone who's like dating someone who's on a reality show, they would come for the whole season and be a part of it.

She actually like really didn't seem to like it so much, but she happened to like be in town.

They had a party at their house in their backyard.

They're being like, you know, Mr.

and Mrs.

And it just is all going to show like everything that we don't have anymore.

Yeah, so that was sad, but of course the episode is good as ever.

They actually have some new good cast members who I'm like really excited to get to know more.

Like Sally seems like a queen.

It's actually really crazy the way Southern Charm has been able to maintain maintain its like relevance in the Bravo universe, but also like its quality of content.

Like, cause when you think about the shows that it started with, like Vanderpump Rolls, literally not even on the air anymore, and they had like years and years of like drab seasons that we all had to sit through, like Southern Charm really hasn't experienced that.

Yeah, they've definitely had like highs and lows and they brought on people who didn't need to be out.

But right now they've brought on a few new girls who I think are going to be like strong just reality TV members.

They're very much ingrained into like the fabric of their lives.

Like literally Sally has like dated or hooked up with every single person that Taylor has like

dated her.

She's not like a rando who needs to be like immersed in the group.

Yeah, because like she had hooked up with Shep, she dated Taylor, who's like the guy that Taylor's dating right now, she had dated him right before, like they literally crossed over.

And then her new boyfriend, she apparently has a new boyfriend, dated Taylor.

Wow.

Like, it's just so much crossover.

So yeah, it's, it's really good.

And I, I actually have a soft spot for Taylor.

I feel like she doesn't help herself sometimes on the show, but like, I just, i i feel like she was a nice person who's gotten carried away and like in this life and yeah i just want happiness for her and i feel like that happiness isn't on this show though that's how i feel that's really hard to watch with like one of your faves when you know the show is like sort of holding them back holding them back from a happy life not from success and fame and fortune i feel like from how naomi was like through how to serve her yeah towards the end but it's hard to walk away from something like that you make really good money you have a lot of opportunities but like I think, like, Olivia is no longer on the show.

I think she like found love and moved on with her life.

Good, good, good, good.

You know?

Yeah.

So it's still my fave.

And anyways, just like praying for Madison's family.

I love her.

I love her.

Well, those were the past five stories, and you definitely needed to know every single one of them.

But what you really do need to know is Queenie and Weenie of the Week.

You do.

And I just want to say another loss for the community was the burgeoning friendship between Paige and Madison.

Agreed.

Because like, I think that was one of Paige's favorite parts about Charleston was like she would get together with Madison.

Like they would always like come to the house or double date and like get someone on her level.

Like

glamorous wise, brain like personality, funny.

Yeah.

I'm sure she'll find someone on your level.

I'm sure they'll stay friendly, but like of course it's going to peter out.

She's not in her city every other week.

And that's a loss for the community.

A thousand percent.

Now, speaking of the community, a way Jackie and I like to give back to the community is our weekly segment, Queenie and Weenie of the Week.

Every Friday, we like to wrap up the week, take a look at the week at a glance, and give out an award to somebody who acted like a queenie this week and somebody who acted like a weenie this week.

Now, it is a temporary title, it's not meant to be so serious.

Like, obviously, the people who are starting fires in LA, like they're not weenies of the week, like they're the criminals of the week.

And so, that this is not reserved for them.

It's all in good fun.

You could be queenie one week, weenie the next, weenie one week, queenie the next.

It's never happened, but those things are possible.

Now, Jackie, tell me who you chose for queenie of the week.

My queenie of the week, lest we not forget, was Nikki Glazer crushing it at the Golden Globes.

She had a great week and she deserves all the accolades and she did a job that is apparently really hard because nobody can fucking do it.

I also chose Nikki Glazer as my weenie of the week.

I forgot that that was this week.

Excuse me, queenie.

Oh my God, Fortian slip.

I forgot that that was this week.

But the way she made me feel, like that is valuable.

Like I was actually.

laughing.

I just cannot remember a time where I watched something that I thought was genuinely funny.

It's like, sometimes you're like, haha, but it was so funny.

She was made me proud as a woman, as a podcaster.

Like she she was just,

and she looked gorgeous while doing it.

And she's like continuing to make waves.

And why not Howard Stern?

Like, it's been brilliantly done.

She is a friend of the toast.

You should listen to her on the toast.

She was great.

And I love her.

Love her.

Very much queenie behavior.

And now, my weenie, like Claudia said, like, typically, when someone has like committed a crime or done something illegal or hurt somebody, like, they're not a weenie, they're just like a terrible person.

And this is meant to be more lighthearted.

And I do think like a weenie who has emerged from this California wildfire situation is David Mirror.

We didn't even talk about it.

Oh my God, that is so funny.

I didn't know what you were going to say.

Yeah.

Like, of course, the mayor and the government, like, they have done like really been negligent in their duties.

But that's not where we're going.

It's not like weenie behavior.

Weenie behavior is David Muir wearing a firefighter's jacket to do his broadcast on the California wildfires.

And he like has it like clipped in the back to be like cinched waist, cinched pecs to be like looking like, I don't know, a handsome firefighter.

So he's like, what has happened?

He's just playing.

Okay.

What had happened was that like David Muir during the election cycle, I think that was a lot of people's introduction to him.

So I obviously like, I know.

He's like World News Tonight.

He's like a family.

He's always on Before Jeopardy, but he's not, I wouldn't say he was like so famous as like a person.

And like people didn't like have crushes on him, but he was making, you know, he moderated one of the presidential elections.

He had like a good year.

Okay.

And I think it brought him into popular culture.

He existed very much as like a big fish in his pond.

But I think a lot of people were like, oh, who's this daddy?

And there was a lot of complimentary you know content about he's a good looking guy

extremely and he's like you know coft he wears like he definitely wears makeup he has like his hair slicked back and i think he liked that attention for sure like who literally who wouldn't when your job is like so boring and like you're probably always getting yelled at by like everybody on your side everybody on the other side and so i could see how he fell down this slippery slope and ended up with a cinch waist.

I could see it's so human of David Muir.

And I feel like he would probably say like, this is what they wanted for me.

Like they wanted like the firefighting newscast.

For the community.

Yeah, but he wore a fireman's jacket to broadcast in front of the fires, which like, where did he get that jacket?

Amazon?

It was jacket.

It was, no, it was monogrammed ABC.

Like ABC made it for the newscasters.

Okay.

Well, I guess they're in a dangerous situation.

So maybe you need fireproof.

It's protective.

You need fireproof.

But he used clips in the back and he turns at one point.

You can see that he cinched the jacket to make it look like tighter and buffer.

And by the way, I read a lot of commentary about it because this is like something fairly common that you do in like wardrobe for TV.

Cause like people share clothes, you can't have things tailored, they're borrowed.

So you will take like, you know, those binder clips that you used to use in like high school?

Yeah.

You will take it and like make something fit.

Oh, like, or a clothespin clip.

Is that what he was using?

And so people are like, well, this isn't a big deal.

It's really normal.

And like, while actually, I agree, it is like a very typical like TV wardrobe thing to do, the level of cinching was definitely extreme.

No, but also in the midst of firefighting, like,

who's worried about how the jacket hugs you?

Yeah, no, it was a weenie move, like very, you hate to see it.

And you know what?

If he didn't turn around and show us the pin, I wouldn't have thought much about the level of tightness of his jacket.

But now that it's been cinched and I'm looking, I'm like, why is your jacket so tight?

It's like, literally, it's like a protective vest.

Like, it doesn't need to be.

No, and it's like something that you throw on to protect yourself while you're out here, like, covering news, fighting fires, helping people, saving lives.

And it's like, oh, you cinched the waist?

yeah and if we never saw it we would have never known we'd be like damn he really fills out that jacket yeah daddy over here fire daddy that's what he was going for and he just turned a few too many degrees so embarrassing and it that's a really good one you look like a weenie my weenie is kind of mean

oh okay But it's Allison Hulker, boss, or Allison Hulker dropped the boss three days later.

Yay, boss.

You know, I hate to be like, you know, this person, but I would be lying if I didn't say like, you know, the last couple of years of her content and like interviews like didn't like rub me in a weird way.

You know, you don't want to say anything mean because like it's, you know, everybody does, you know, the grief their own way.

But I've always been like, it's kind of thirsty, but you would never say anything.

You never hated her weenie of the week.

Like, no, but now, like, to have the mother of your deceased husband, like, have to release a statement about you

is so weenie.

It's so bad faith.

And it, it kind of confirms, I think, what a lot of people's like instinct gut reactions to some of her choices over the last couple of years.

Cause I've thought like, but I would never say, but now knowing like her mother-in-law, brother-in-law, your husband's ex-friends, like they, they all think weird.

Oh, I agree.

Like, we all were like sensing.

So now we've said it.

And so now we've said it.

The releasing of someone's journal entries is so,

it's such a crazy thing to do.

Like the more you really, truly think about it, especially if this person, it's actually, it's up for debate if he was dealing with this thing.

Like so many people in his life are saying actually like he wasn't.

But even if he was, like,

it's just, it's such a, like, actually low thing to do.

I agree.

So I'm sorry.

It's weenie.

It's weenie.

That's Queenie and Weenie.

That is our show.

Thank you.

I love how you've been writing that in your notebook.

I have my notebook.

So I wrote down Queenie and Weenie.

And then hopefully I do it every week.

And then by the end of the year, I'll be able to see every single one.

Oh, I love that.

So I'm going to write down yours?

Yeah.

Okay.

We need to start writing more things down.

I love writing things down.

So, my queenie was Nikki, and then my weenie was Allison.

And then, also, we're gonna look back and be like, who's Allison?

Literally.

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