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Good morning, Millennials.

Welcome back to the toast and happy Tuesday, the first Tuesday in 2025.

Is it?

Are you sure about that?

Well, it's

January 7th.

Could, could be.

Actually, I feel like it is.

It is.

It's what?

The first Tuesday in 2025.

Thank you for cutting off what was otherwise a brilliant intro.

Hey, Jax, how do you get to the next step?

We had to fact check.

We had to give a community note.

We did.

That's kind of like, that's kind of what makes us special and different is the lack of.

I know, but we hide that later in the episode.

Right out the gate.

Not only is today the first Tuesday in 2025, it's the first Deer Toasters in 2025.

And the DTQ, the Deer Toasters community, will not be silenced.

And we're starting off 2025 with that message.

We're putting that forward.

Yes.

Bring us your ales.

Give us your tired.

You're hungry.

I was going to say that.

Bring us you're tired, you're poor.

What's it from?

The Statue of Liberty?

Classic.

Oh, you know, Ben and I were just having this discussion as native, as a native New Yorker.

Neither of us have ever been to the Statue of Liberty.

Should we do like a day trip, vlog it for Patreon?

Do not come.

I don't think you would like it.

I think if you want to visit landmarks, that's like a really fun thing to do.

But the Statue of Liberty, like, she's a seafaring woman.

Yeah.

And she is not on land.

Ben had made a good point.

Like, we probably will have to do those things in the next couple of years, God willing, you know, with our growing family.

Like, why do it twice?

100%.

And it will be like really fun when you do it with your family, like seeing it through their eyes.

Yeah.

And if you go now, you're going to be like, this old thing.

That's why, like, Ben sometimes is like, should we go to Disney?

I've heard it's really fun.

You can drink.

And I'm like, no.

Just like wait a couple years.

No, what if we didn't?

I feel like I've got some Diz in me soon.

I haven't planned anything, but.

I was actually thinking when the next time you're going to go to Disney is.

I should go in the next few months.

Tis the season for the Diz.

Why?

Because it's like cool weather and it's not terrible like chubba weather.

And it's not like high trafficked holiday time.

Like things are more quiet here, like before spring break.

We went at this time last year and it was Pargi.

That just reminded me of something.

Like, you know, there's so much about pregnancy that reminds me of my former fat life.

Like there's just, I'm sorry, I know like when you get pregnant, you're not getting fat.

You're building a human, of course, but I would be remiss if I didn't notice the similarities.

And one of them is I now, like, I get chub rub again.

That was something I sort of like evolved past.

You left behind.

Yeah.

And no, we're back.

And I've been like putting and like, even like chafing between my breasts, like lots of different issues.

I have a feeling I'm going to lose the ability to cross my legs soon, which is something I just got back with those Empics.

So that's upsetting.

I'm sorry.

Yeah.

Just like that's a love update about me.

Spread them.

Spread them.

I will be spreading them on the show in the coming months, and I don't want to hear a word about it.

No, that's fine.

Listen as a podcast, you know?

Yeah.

They're always available as a podcast if you don't like what you see.

Anywhere podcasts can be found.

Imagine not liking what you see.

Hit it.

Hit it with the heart.

The thing is, I don't check every day.

I checked yesterday.

But I know when we do it, like the comments are gonna go crazy so i'm just waiting for that moment um today's a very special day

it is because every day on this beautiful planet is a special one and

and because of what you're doing yeah so we're actually recording today's episode early so if you're seeing this a little bit earlier um it's one of the things we can thank my coccidenia for so Today, I have finally decided to take control of my body and my future and

seek out some help with my coccydia.

Now, I'm limited in my healing options because I'm pregnant.

And when I got my diagnosis at first, I couldn't share it with you guys, but I did know I was pregnant.

I had like just found out a week before.

So I couldn't really do anything.

This is a physiocyst, physiatrist, physio.

I'm not sure.

Physiologist?

No, no.

I hadn't heard it.

Like physiatrist.

No.

Physicist.

Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

Whatever.

Something with your body, who specializes in pregnant women.

Your body your body so i don't know if there's gonna be anything she's gonna help me be able to help me with this might just have to be something i sit tight with until pregnancy ends but like you'll be sitting tight oh will i but just know like while you're enjoying this episode i'm taking control of my body and my future can you say the same

I actually personally can.

I don't want to like rub anything in, but as you guys know, I've been suffering from sciatica for years.

I remember feeling the feeling like right after I had Charlie.

And I started to do a little digging.

And one of the notes said like magnesium can help.

I've started taking magnesium at night.

You guys, I'm cured.

So not entirely like getting up from the makeup chair this morning hurt a little bit, but like compared to where I was, like I, I'm having no issues.

And so now when we go back to the conversation of whose condition was worse, the fact that yours was like easily treatable with a vitamin, we are not the same.

We don't know that yours isn't.

Oh, and I do have sciatica.

And over winter break, I actually got locked in like a sciatica position.

I could not get up off a chair.

It was actually really scary.

I thought I was going gonna have to call an ambulance.

So I know what sciatica's like, and I know what bad sciatica's like.

And let me tell you, she doesn't have a thing on coccidonia.

That's not what the commenters said.

I think it is.

No, they said

it was gonna be really painful.

But I just wanted to share, if you're suffering from what I had been describing all this time, a pinch nerve in the cheek, running down the leg, couldn't put your shoes on, magnesium.

The commenters also said they didn't hear a difference in my laugh, and they're wrong.

So that's hurtful.

I know.

And yesterday.

They're out to get us.

Last night before bed I don't know what compelled me oh because it snowed yesterday and it reminded me of something every now and then I realize there's something about me that Ben doesn't know like a little tidbit from childhood and I share it with him and last night I realized there's like this thing that I had to call Margo I feel like you don't even know about it either

It snowed yesterday and it reminded me of this thing me and Margo used to do when we were kids and I was telling Ben about it and I was wheezing so hard I had the craziest laugh like how anybody could say my laugh isn't different like they don't know Turdy.

It's giving me here long enough it's giving deaf like you obviously don't know me what do you used to do when it snowed so you know growing up me and Margo shared a room you and Olivia had your own rooms and me and Margaret so me Margo definitely have like our own history or our own history excuse me you do you do and like many kids our age like we were obsessed with snow days like we used to like literally like beg for them and I actually like when I was telling you about the story last night I was so

embarrassed like

I couldn't even get it out and then I had to call Margo because like it's like about like this song that we made up and she was singing it like we were actually crying on the phone okay so margo and i like when we you know like you would see on the news like there was like a lot of anticipation like it might snow tomorrow yeah yeah and so we wouldn't know if school was canceled yet we were gonna like wake up and find out and we would just sort of like try and

Put out manifest.

Yeah, put out positive energy.

And we thought that like if we made up this song and we sang it and did this like special dance that it would in turn create a snow day.

Now, obviously that as a concept like, isn't embarrassing or weird, but when I tell you what the song was, like, you will die.

Do you know what I'm talking about?

No, you have no idea what this is.

Sing it.

I actually can't sing it without like turning purple.

I was, Jackie, I was.

Like, honestly, I'll look away.

Maybe close.

Let's go

a little bit of a background because you're going to be like, why does it sound like that?

You're not going to get the song the first time you hear it.

Okay.

Oh, okay.

It's a couple listens.

Before it's singing.

And the second and third time, you're going to be like, okay.

It's about.

I don't know.

It was kind of prolific of us because we were super young.

We were basically trying to like channel like the weather gods in like a sort of tribal like sense like so when you hear the song it's very like african rain dance like i don't know where we picked this up like maybe maybe we copied it from a movie or a tv show but i'm pretty sure it's original and it's really it's not english it just sounds like i actually i'm so embarrassed margo is going to kill me

I called Margo.

She thought someone died.

I was laughing so hard.

I was like crying.

Okay, so it goes like this.

And I need you to actually look away.

I'm looking away.

I'm going to drink my, actually, I won't drink my coffee.

I could choke.

And imagine me and Margaret, we put all of our pillows in a circle.

And we would like do this dance where like we would go right arm, left arm, right arm, left arm, like very tribal, very like,

I don't know exactly what we were like very Aztec almost.

I'm not sure.

I mean, I'm sure this is offensive, but it's what we were, like we were literally six years old.

And I don't know what reminded me of it.

I haven't thought of it in so long.

And I was telling Ben the story in Ben and like, I actually was crying.

Like,

it was like so embarrassing.

Oh my God.

And I couldn't remember like the actual sounds we were making.

So I had to call Margo.

Did she fill in the blanks?

Of course.

And I think that like,

oh my God.

I think that like of all the things she thought she was going to pick up the phone and hear list was like literally like she, I could have given her a million guesses.

She was never going to guess this.

Like it, it had been completely erased from my mind, but it was a thing we did for years.

Let me tell you, it never worked.

Like we would wake up the next day.

Yeah, I was going to say, what's the success rate?

Like, maybe once.

And we were like, it worked.

Oh, my God.

I was laughing so hard.

Ben was like, are you okay?

And I was like, that is.

So funny.

I love like how our sister Margot was just like classic, cool New York City influencer.

And like, we will humble her like on on this show in her life like reminding her that she's just your kids sit she's just a member of a tribe She's just someone's little sister.

No, and it was such a little sister

musical big sister because you know it was your idea

because you know that's not a Margo initiated game.

Oh my god.

Like she's such a good little sister.

No, because we all could see you doing it.

Of course.

No, no.

And she went along with it.

And like I really, I remember like convincing her that like it had powers, you know, and she was like, okay, like she had nothing to lose.

Like, and sad.

And if she woke up the next day and there wasn't a snow day, she would have been like, well, maybe if I did the dance, there would have been.

Maybe if I danced harder, if I sang louder.

Margo's just like dancing for her life.

Oh, God.

I actually can't breathe.

Like, we were such freaks.

We did a lot of like weird, like, we, we did the classic as kids, like, making up dances.

We were really into gymnastics.

But remember those kids.

Let's not forget our favorite game, PAG.

Popular and geek.

Nobody wants to be cast as the geek.

Let me tell you, it was always me or Margot.

Yeah.

And we would basically just mimic the movies, mean girls.

Like, some of us would pretend to be cheerleaders and others.

We were like, actresses.

And the other one would like hold a book.

It's so crazy that we've gone on to be cool to do great things.

Just because.

It was definitely touching her for a second.

No, I'm crying.

Like serious freaks.

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

Hysterical.

That's like sibling.

Like you can, you can never explain it.

Like when I'm, when you guys are listening to this, you probably think it sounds so weird, but like, but then I see these memes of like people like it's a video and someone will be like, me and my cousin doing a dance so that we could stay up later.

And I'm like, oh my God, that's, we all had the same childhood.

So I actually think a lot of people relate, a lot of people were making up dances and like doing shit.

I think making up dances was like by far the most normal thing we did.

Like, and it was obviously very political because we like grew up in a family that really respected the order of birth.

And like, Olivia took that role really.

We still do.

We still do.

But Olivia, like at the time, was definitely on a little bit of like a power trip.

100%.

Any activity that was like unsupervised, Olivia was in charge and she knew it.

And she wielded it like a knife.

Like she was actually not a just ruler at all.

Yeah.

She was always the coach.

She was always the lead choreographer.

Did she even have the talent to be those things?

Like it wasn't a meritocracy.

No, but she had a computer in her bedroom.

So like when we needed music and stuff like that, she provided the equipment.

So, so in addition to being the eldest and her room, like actually your room was the biggest, but she, she, she just like, she had power and she knew it and she ran with it.

Yeah.

I'd be lying if I said like I wasn't harboring a little bit of resentment.

Yeah.

Oh, about anytime we would like cook or bake, which was not like a lot, but she was always like head chef.

Well, that's an issue that you would have because you were always cooking with her, like watching the food network.

So true.

It's amazing.

I never felt like unable to cook a single thing.

No, no, actually try.

I spent my childhood cooking.

Can you believe that?

I spent my childhood not.

I actually spent my childhood watching Lawn Otter.

And Food Network, you cannot understate the importance of that network in your lives.

You know, it's so funny because when we think about it, and I wrote about this in my book a lot, I feel like so much of who I am, like my personality and the fact that we do this for a living, is the fact that we watched a lot of television growing up.

And I was like one of the only girls that I knew, like in high school, who had a TV in my bedroom.

And now we're all like screen phobic.

We're like screen, screen, screen.

Meanwhile, like I would not be who I am if it weren't for the television of your.

I agree.

It's definitely an interesting thing.

And I do, I watch so much TV and look at me.

And now I choose not to.

So you're literally like a success.

But I think there's like a lot of different things happening.

This is how I, first of all, like when your kids are two, like,

that's not what we were to.

We weren't two watching TV.

No, but we were young.

We were like 10.

Yeah.

And like.

But still, it's like we were developed

more so than like a toddler.

Yeah, of course.

More so than than a big are you saying you think you'll like right now on screens like when your kids are like eight?

Yes, but then my other issue is that TVs have changed because now they're these like huge, big, colorful things.

The TV in your room, Claudia, was like the size of a computer monitor, like a laptop.

And you were so far away, like you weren't like zoned in on it the way that people sit in front of like a huge screen these days.

No, also, like as kids, we used to get in trouble for sitting too close to the TV.

We used to have to like back up.

Yeah.

And like the TV, the quality just like wasn't what it is now.

Like the the colors and which is nice when you're watching

wicked.

Yeah.

You know, just putting it out, just putting it out.

For damn, no, no, no, I think about that all the time.

Like even Gary Giannetti, like he's such a success because he was addicted to television.

Yes, and that's a theme.

And when we read Kiki Palmer's book, it was like she literally saw her life throughout television.

Like

so many successful people, especially in entertainment, like were shaped by modern entertainment.

Yeah.

But a lot of people probably are also couch potatoes.

Yeah, yeah.

For every Kiki Palmer, there's like 11 couch potatoes.

Yeah.

There's a Larry.

Yeah, it's so true.

I love that.

I don't know.

You know, it's all in flux, Turtleo.

We actually have quite a bit to get into today because we have remaining stories.

Actually, like just for a regular Tuesday, the story is a very good set, Foster and Hugh Jackman.

But there are a couple of things that we need to discuss.

A couple of odds and eds from the globe.

Yes.

And then a couple of our tings we need to discuss.

And then dear toasters, as you said.

So I guess we could just without further ado.

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Actually, Ben and I were watching TV last night.

I saw a cable commercial during Jeopardy for AG1.

It was like, okay, pop off.

Do

mainstream success.

I have a question for you.

It's probably hard because you're pregnant and like, who cares?

Like, this is not what you're cares about, but yeah.

No, no, no, like, do you have any resolutions that you're trying to do?

Like, are you trying like new year, new you?

I am not.

I meant to talk about that on yesterday's episode, but I got like lost in the flush.

I think the last couple of years, I've had resolutions that I really stuck to that I'm really proud of.

Like, two years ago, I was like, it's the year of yes.

I'm going to say yes to life and go to things and take trips and go to the edge of a cliff.

Last year, I wanted to quit my vape, and I did.

I thought, I actually had one thought this year.

That I'm not gonna do, but I saw a TikTok that was really compelling.

This girl was like, she was in her car and she was talking about how much she loves the toast, but she was like, my kid is just like repeating so much stuff and I can't listen to the toast in the car anymore because like the swirlies love to drop like a big f-bomb and i was like oh like like the video like really spoke to me i was like shit that sucks like

for you and for me and i was it does stink for us because eventually right she misses enough episodes i know she might not feel caught up she might drop off so it crossed my mind to like maybe work on my cussing But while this is like a show for the Swirlies, it's also a comedy show.

And like, I just feel like it's funny.

Like, I don't know, I struggle because.

What about what about extraneous cussing you know because sometimes it's not necessary sometimes it is yeah but that's just like a lot of mental gymnastics to do when I'm like trying to be myself and be funny and like you know get to work get to the agenda I know but you're also

you are probably going to want to tone it down when you have a child so it's better to start now another thing not that I'm not that I'm perfect another thing I was thinking about because there's definitely like an AI program that you can run your audio through that like bleep out any curses like what if every day we just release two episodes, like clean and explicit?

But then like, what about the charts?

Because then we're splitting our listenership.

Like we live for seeing ourselves high on the charts.

That's what I think is something Apple should offer.

Just between you and the other people.

Yeah, that is.

You should be able to choose, like choose the episode and be like, we'd like to hear this clean or explicit.

And they bleep out the, okay, free idea.

Somebody should do that.

Yeah, I think that's a really good idea.

You guys have suggestions?

Sound off in the comments.

Like, it's something I've been thinking about.

I just don't know if I'm really capable of stopping cursing.

It's who I am.

So it was like my resolution.

Maybe even the last two years, it's always something that's been top of mind.

And I've definitely decreased usage, but

not eradicated completely.

But now, if it's potentially affecting our business, we have to talk about it.

And especially as like we all grow together, I feel like we grow in tandem with our sisters of the toasters.

And

if they feel like they can't listen to us in this new stage of their lives, like that's not good.

I know.

I know.

Something to think about.

Agreed.

Definitely, definitely food for thought.

Yep.

I have a lot of resolutions.

Okay, let's hear them.

I'm like really trying.

I'm going so hard on New Year and New Mean, like in a real way.

Like, first of all, drinking more water, drinking water in the morning before I have my coffee.

I need to stop drinking my coffee, like right when I'm rubbing my eyes.

Like I need to drink water first.

So so far, that's going well, but then I have to pee so bad during the toast.

It's like kind of not a good thing.

I know.

Of course, eating healthier.

Right now I'm doing Saqara, so that covers me for the week.

But then, you know, going forward, more protein, more healthy.

Yep.

I do okay with that.

I do.

You do.

And then also like being

neater, like more purging of things in my house, more cleaning, more scrubbing, like cleaner spaces.

I'm all for like more throwing everything in the garbage all the time.

More sweeper.

Sweeping.

More sweeping.

It's true.

Yep.

Swiper note.

I started following like more creators who like our comfort creators who also do like a lot of cleaning.

Like I'm watching them do their laundry.

Organization.

And now I want to do.

Yeah, they're like wiping down their counters.

I'm buying their cleaning products.

More of that.

More productivity.

That's a resolution I can get behind.

And I would also love to, this today is actually great because this is unlocking an extra hour and a half in my day by starting so early.

I would love to unlock my mornings with more productivity.

Yeah.

Well, you could be one of those moms who like wakes up at 5 a.m.

and like goes to the gym before her kids get up.

The thing is, I couldn't.

Okay.

But like maybe getting dinner in a crock pot like before the toast.

That way in the time I'm usually cooking, I could be doing something else.

I like that.

Time management.

Time management, stuff like that.

Yep, that's fine.

Let's get to the story, shall we?

Yes.

First up, the biggest news for us of the day, Hugh Jackman and Sutton Foster have stepped out hand in hand for a dinner date in LA with People Magazine.

So it's important to note that like everything about this is scheduled, coordinated, staged, coordinated with People Magazine.

So like they've made the decision.

They are coming out publicly.

They should have gone to the Golden Globes together, but like I won't say anything.

They are ready to take on the world.

So she, they could not have gone to the Golden Globes because she is like previewing a new play, Once Upon a Mattress.

And so it had two big opening nights and he was there both nights.

So there was a lot of whispers like, oh, what is he doing there?

He must be.

And now this picture just confirms what we all knew.

What is he doing there?

Like we know.

I didn't even know he was at her play.

I should have known that.

The fact that they're older and more mature, like makes me think that like, and while this is definitely like coordinated and like a planted photo, which makes me cringe, it does give me joy that like it's a well thought out launch and like they are really serious about each other because, you know, they both left their marriages.

If they're not serious, they wouldn't have shared.

And if they didn't think this relationship was going anywhere, they were going to stay in private until they figured it out.

So the fact that they're choosing to share this because it's clearly a, you know, a staged photo makes me think that the relationship's in like a really healthy place.

Yes.

And I feel like maybe the relationship got out before they were ready, but everything that they've done, he left his wife a few years ago.

She left her husband maybe six months ago.

And like now they're coming forward with their relationship.

So it's been months of each of them being like technically single.

It's seemingly kosher.

No, it is kosher.

And if we didn't know that they had been dating this whole time, they would have stepped out today and we'd be like, oh, how beautiful.

So I think they are just like really trying to do everything by the book.

And they are.

Like, what else can they be doing?

It's not their fault that they fell in love.

They're doing everything right.

And instead of being like caught out pictures of them, they're like putting out pictures to the fans, to you and I.

Yeah.

And they're really trying to be by the book i love that and to be clear while like one could poke holes in their timeline like people are not the general reception to this is overwhelmingly positive i'm sure there's like people being like well she was spotted here wishing anniversary whatever i no i think they they definitely fell in love while one or two of them were married yeah well but they did the music man together and that was like right but There's a difference between like accidentally falling in love, acting on it, like these things.

And I think that as best as they could handle it, there's not a right way to go about it.

It's an unfortunate unfortunate thing that happens.

And unless it's true love, like stay where you're at, okay?

And I don't want to get ahead of myself, but it appears as though it's true love.

So that's the thing.

It's true love.

And who's not getting behind true love?

Now, what are your thoughts on being in a committed relationship with somebody who's in the exact same field as you?

And it's a field that's quite competitive.

Theater.

Theater.

You mean, but also not theater feels like less.

risky than like Hollywood.

Well, yes, theater is like, everyone's a little bit more normal and down to earth.

And you can live like like a quiet life, like you do your shows, you go home, it's very routine.

Yeah, I think

what I, what I meant more theater and like at their level, you know?

So I think it just depends on the person.

No, they both straddle both.

It just feels like they're both doing more plays now.

Oftentimes two big stars can't be together.

They want like outshot.

There's a million things, competitiveness, but these two, as much as we don't know them the way that they seem, like grounded people.

Yeah.

Yeah.

but do you think it's like a little too close for comfort ever

i i think it would yeah i think it would be for most people yeah but some people feed off of that energy and they're collaborative and there are plenty of successful relationships in the biz a handful of them not a lot but some oh you know what that just reminded me of a great nikki glazer joke um when she was talking to nicole kidman and keith urban and she was just like i love that you don't stop playing guitar so nicole needs to leave the house as much as possible and do 85 films a year like so funny and we also like thank you for doing a long bit on nicole and keith so we got to watch them interact for like 15 seconds and i just i just fucking love them yeah

disgust i don't know who i like more in the relationship like that's how you know it's a good couple i actually think i might like keith urban more but that's just because of my because of my tastes Also, you know what's funny?

I feel like a few months ago I said on the show that like Nicole Kidman like needs to do something other than like all the roles she's been playing.

And so she did baby girl and like I'm not going to see it.

I'm kind of like, I missed Nicole Kidman.

Yeah, wait.

She definitely

decided like she made a choice.

Like I don't know when to shift a little bit she was doing a lot of the same and even she

was a perfect couple and had the same feeling we all had which was like I need to get out of my box and so did something else but now I don't know if she feels this way but I'm like okay I'm ready for more Nicole Goodman yeah I have not seen baby girl although I ended up on baby girl talk where different films like the more uh controversial ones from from the film like people were filming it in theaters and so i i think i saw what i needed to saw like i saw her drinking the milk you know um i don't know i i would like for me to tell you because is that what I tell you?

Can I tell you the funniest thing?

What?

Dana over winter break, she went to the movies with her in-laws and saw baby girl.

Oh my god, oh my god,

oh my god, that's terrible.

I saw this hilarious TikTok of a girl who like over the holidays went to the movies with her parents and they're walking out and she's filming her dad and he's just like this.

I don't know if they were from New York based.

What did they see?

Baby girl.

And he was giving like old Brooklyn.

He was like, these people are fucking disgusting.

Like,

because the premise of the movie is that like Nicole Kidman starts an affair with like this young guy at work.

And so I thought it was like a May-December type of movie, but it's really not about that.

It's like the kid in the film is like freaky and he makes like Nicole do freaky stuff.

And he's like submissive, like Don.

Submissive.

So he like makes her pretend to be like a cat and she like drinks milk from a bowl and then like has to stand in the corner.

And like she's literally, she's looking at the wall like she's timeout.

Like it was seriously, it was disturbing and I will not be seeing it.

But I agree it points to a seismic shift in Nicole kidman.

You don't want to go see it with your in-laws?

Nah.

Nah.

That's really crazy of Dana.

She's actually crazy.

She had no idea.

Well, that's unfortunate.

Beyond.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Classic Dana.

Speaking of, we recorded the Residents yesterday.

The Residents?

The Redheads.

We recorded yesterday.

The book was actually, I think everyone really liked the book and we're about to ruin it for you.

Okay.

Seriously.

Seriously ruined.

Love that.

Yeah.

Are you ready for our next story?

If we must move past these two, then yes.

I know.

We'll always find a way to bring it back to them.

We will keep tabs on them throughout the years that they will spend together.

Yeah.

Many, many years.

Our next story is a couple golden globes odds and ends.

Okay.

First up is the Demi Moore Kylie Jenner snubbing.

Yeah.

This video is going viral of Demi going up to the

Unknown table.

That's Timothy's table with Kylie and Elle fanning.

and uh who's the other girl I don't know her but she's so

cargy yeah

um and she's like talking to the two girls completely like ignoring Kylie Kylie's like really excited for her and then like realizes she's being ignored and turns around yeah she's now smiling it to me and she's like trying to get her attention and like interjecting the conversation and then like and then me goes like you too look so beautiful and that's when Kylie turns around and I saw this video going on so many times and I was like people things get taken out of context like stop like she didn't snub her and then I watched shit like really closely.

And I watched Kylie.

Yep.

And you can see Kylie felt snubbed.

And I know that Demi's daughter has also like taken to social media to clarify that she did not snub her, but like.

Demi had just one.

She was really overwhelmed.

Like, she doesn't have anything against Kylie.

She probably didn't even like notice this girl behind her.

She knows El Fanning really well.

So like, that's where she was focusing.

I don't think it was an intentional snub.

And I had the same exact reaction.

Like, when people were like making this video go around, I'm like, oh, everybody just wants to like bring Kylie down.

Like classic Kardashian haters.

And then I watched it in full.

I was like, damn.

And could could i just say we've all been there where you're like trying to interject in a conversation like literally the people are not letting you in so i had a lot of like sitting there smiling and she's just at those events she's really like timothy's plus one i feel like she really doesn't want to detract and so whether or not to me like knew she was that kylie was next to her is just like timothy's girlfriend like

like it was it was to snub whether it was intentional or not i couldn't say i don't know her but you could see kylie felt snubbed and she like turns around and picks up her camera like i just

anyone who hurts Kylie like hurts me.

I know and things like this don't really happen to the Kardashians because like the main girls like Kim, Chloe, and Chris, they know everyone.

Like they are movers and shakers and they could go to the Grammys, they could go to the Oscars like and they would know everyone.

Like how sort of how the Mecca Allah became like Kardashian Fest.

Like they are very popular and well-liked amongst celebrities in all different industries, whether it's music or film.

But Kylie definitely keeps to herself and going to the Golden Globes now for the second year in a row, it's always like a step outside her comfort zone.

She very much operates in like sort of the influencery type of space.

So I felt really bad for her.

And we're just not used to seeing the Kardashians in a position like this because every room they enter, like they are always the most well-known.

And even if not well-known, kind of popular.

They're social people and they know everyone.

They invite everyone to their holiday party.

Like Chris is, she has her hand in everyone.

And like Chris has her own, and like each one of them has so many friends that together, the whole family is friends with every industry.

Yeah.

But except Kylie, she's really like to herself.

Yeah.

So I don't know if there was like malicious intent, like I don't like Kylie Jenner, but like it was, it was a let me tell you something.

Demi Moore is almost 60 years old.

She's not starting drama with Kylie Jenner.

Like she was over, like she had just won.

It was like this huge moment for her.

She ran into somebody she knew.

I think that it was like completely

unintentional.

Having said that, painful to watch.

Yeah,

her daughter, Demi's daughter said, hi at everyone, but really pressed, nipping this straight in the bed.

But we spent New Year with Elle, so connecting with her after a win was a very organic thing to do.

This angel was in total shock and delight and moving throughout a warm room of well-wishers.

There was not a snub of any sort.

Had she seen KJ wanting to congratulate her, she would have fully given her the time and space, literally just give it all a break.

Oh, I'm so sorry, not to make everything about me, but I do feel like a personal reference would be helpful here.

I actually met Demi Moore like somewhat recently.

She was asking me 1 million questions about like comedy and podcasting.

She was unbelievably nice.

It was very disarming.

I'm sorry.

I totally forgot that.

Like I actually kind of where did you meet her?

I don't know her at a birthday party.

Turtleoo.

She, I remember me and Ben were like dazzled by her.

And I wouldn't say like before, she, her like big box office successes like predates my, my time a little bit.

So I'm not super familiar.

I never saw like, what is she in?

Like Killbill?

Like, what's the thing that?

Like G.I.

Jane?

Yeah, you know what I mean?

So I really wasn't familiar.

And I wasn't expecting to be dazzled beyond.

Like she had literally no idea what what I did for her living.

She was so curious genuinely.

And she was like, and as a woman, that's amazing.

Like she was so fucking nice.

And she has this like little dog that weighs half a pound that she brings everywhere with her.

I forgot.

She's unbelievably nice to like a nobody like me.

I'm telling you, she didn't snub Kylie.

Oh my God, not me forgetting my personal reference.

So do you think she just didn't know that was Kylie next to her and just thought it was like a rando?

I think there was like, like she didn't even care to turn around.

It couldn't have been anyone.

Like she was so excited about her win and it's this big night for her and she ran into this girl that she loves.

Like I just think of of all the things happening in front of her it was too much to even look to the left okay that's what I think and you know what I'm trusting my fave

okay love that yeah also from the golden globes a little part two is that Kate Beckinstale and Matt Reif were spotted kissing at Netflix's Golden Globes bash yes they were I saw that before I went to bed last night and I was I was disturbed

you was disturbed let me say something

I don't like Matt Reif.

And not for the reasons that like everybody does.

Like he made a joke about like people on the spectrum and people found it offensive like a joke is a joke like i actually don't care um i just like find him annoying like his face and so i also don't understand like how he rose to fame so quickly i just like none of it makes sense to me so i'm not like championing him if you know what i mean also he notoriously was not very nice to brooke schofield former toast guest so i stay with my girl brooke um

So I'm just not, I'm not like, I'm not a champion of his.

And so I don't like to see him winning, honestly.

Like, that's yeah, that's a win for him.

They also had dated in the past.

And then when she started dating Pete Davidson, he like told Pete to be careful.

So there's like weird history.

And

Jackie Brooke Schofield is involved in some capacity.

Like before he really, really blew up, like I think she was dating him.

And he literally pretended like he didn't know who she was.

Like something really crazy.

She's talked about it on a bunch of podcasts.

I can't remember if she talked about it on the toes, but I feel like I would remember.

So no.

It's like a weird story.

He's like, he gives me really bad vibes.

Yeah, people really love him, though.

Like his fans.

Oh, okay, well, that's good.

Yeah.

So I just feel like it's like you either are one of his fans or like you, you really dislike him, or to me, like apathetic.

Yeah.

No thoughts.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I happen to really like Kate Beckinsale.

You've met her too.

I have met her too, and she's unbelievably cool.

Like, yeah.

Fucking, like, we were at a restaurant.

Sorry, I have to tell the story.

And she was driving home and she were at Craigs.

So, like, you know, there's paparazzi outside.

And she was like, Do you want to lift home?

And I was like,

duh.

Cause my hotel was right by her house.

And she was like, okay.

And I was like, oh my God, I'm literally going to be walking out of Craigs.

Like, with Kate Beck and Sale, the paparazzi is going to go nuts.

But she's Kate Beck and Sale.

She literally had like a special exit, like with an umbrella and in the back, and like the car.

We drove right past paparazzi.

Nobody even saw us.

I was like, oh, this is great.

Thanks.

Thanks for the ride.

Are you ready for our next story?

Yeah.

Which is three.

Number three.

Yeah.

Confirmation that Zendaya and Tom Holland are engaged.

Details are emerging about the betrothal.

So they are engaged.

A family source confirmed to people.

TMZ was the first to report the news.

According to the outlet, he proposed at one of Zendaya's family homes over the holidays.

A source told people that everyone close to them knew an engagement was happening, just not when.

The source said that he had been keen to propose to Zendaya for a while.

They said he's always been crazy about her.

He always knew she was the one.

They have something very special.

They give Paige and Craig, like the guy just being so obsessed with the girl.

Like it's up to the girl when the timeline.

You know, I think he would have married her years ago.

I sort of thought of these two as like in a permanent like domestic partnership, very Kurt and

Goldie and Kurt.

Yeah, I wasn't on like ring watch to them.

I just felt like, but I guess that's what happens.

Like you either get married or you break up.

or sometimes you just stay as you are.

But like most of the time, it goes one way or the other.

So this is really exciting news that we weren't even like waiting.

Didn't even have our list.

I feel like all these people do like predictions per year.

Like this should have been a prediction.

But yeah, they're just so settled and everybody's so like used to them and they're so in love and they're so private that I don't even think about their timeline at all.

But then it makes you think about Kylie and Timothy, right?

Yeah.

Because they're together two years now.

Kylie's also never been married.

And she is like a relationship girl and they will either like, maybe they wouldn't get married just because there's so much at stake, but have children together yeah maybe she wants more kids if this is her man like that's what they're gonna do that's really crazy i know but it feels like really i wouldn't even say all this before zendaya and time because i just feel like they're the two that can be private and date forever will literally never see them on a red carpet together no reporters ever allowed to ask questions about the other yeah i feel like if they have a big wedding which i don't even think that they will like we'll never even see a photo of it

Not even like a Vogue exclusive.

Yeah.

They're like too big for that.

I saw a funny tweet that was like, cause she's such a fashion girly.

Like, can you imagine the phone calls like her and Law Roach must be getting now that everyone knows she's engaged?

Like,

I know she has her deals.

So like Louis Vuitton, right?

Right.

But she could have any designer in the entire world like begging at her feet to make a wedding dress.

Like, who would she go with?

Even though I feel like they're literally like courthouse, like Carrie wearing her and the bride wore a dress by no one.

No, I feel like they'll have a wedding.

It's not going to be like a huge deal, probably overseas.

Yeah.

Well, the way that small.

TMZ is reporting that they got engaged was like also like really sweet, intimate family.

It was like at Zendaya's family home over the holidays, really intimate, like no drama, no big fireworks.

And that's, they're just, they're such the real deal.

Yeah.

And I know they give us nothing and I respect that entirely.

There's literally that one picture of them that she's taking like a mirror photo of him and her in his Spider-Man costume.

Like, and they use that for every press article because there's not a single other photo of them.

I would love to just see like

something, you know, like they give us nothing.

I feel like she probably thinks she's not going to do the big wedding because they're like so private, whatever, but like you do get carried away when the bride gets caught off.

She's just a girl, you know, and I still, I don't think that means she's going to have a 300-person crazy wedding, but like you're getting married, so you want a wedding dress.

Of course, you want the best, nicest dress made by Christian Dior himself.

Right.

Even if it's like, you know, a casual dress.

Yeah, even if it's for a beachside wedding.

I could see them doing that, by the way.

And then you get the dress, and then you need the wedding to accompany the dress.

Well, well that's the premise of sex in the city like once you get the venue and when she said what did she say to big well you play poker right the dress up the ante like yeah you it's easy to get carried away but i just want to say like that happens that's real because then you have this insane dress and you're like more people need to see it it needs to be

It needs to be in this place.

She's completely valid for that.

The only mistake she made, and it was literally her fatal flaw nail in her coffin was she so did not read the man she was, she didn't know the guy she was married, marrying at all.

Like, cause if you you did, you would know that like this would really be like a turnoff to him.

And he was visibly getting like more distant, more angry.

And she just ignored it.

I have a fairy dress.

Like, grow up.

Big dope energy.

Zandeo would never do that.

Like, she won't.

And by the way, Tom Holland would take

her to beg her happier.

Whatever kind of wedding you want.

Right.

He would do it.

And that's the difference.

Like, Big was like a piece of shit who, like, if Carrie wanted something and it made her so happy, he didn't give a fuck.

Like, that didn't move the needle for him at all.

Literally the day that he proposed to her, she should have taken him down to the courthouse and married him because like she should have known that his mother could be behind his back.

No, it's like, oh, you're feeling like marriage today?

Let's do it today.

Because tomorrow, who knows?

It's so true.

So, that was her fatal flaw.

Like, you can't, nobody could get mad at her, of course.

And then, the library, like, it was so, and it's so New York, and she's so fabulous.

And it was her first wedding.

No matter how old you are, like, it's always exciting.

But her problem was, she had no idea who she was marrying, or she seriously didn't care.

And she also lost the plot completely.

Next story, number four.

Are you ready?

Very exciting news for everyone.

Because Shark Tanks Kevin O'Leary says that he's nearing a deal to buy TikTok.

Okay, I saw this.

Shark Tinks Kevin O'Leary has plans to purchase TikTok during an appearance on the story with Martha McCollum on Monday.

He expressed interest in acquiring ownership of the social media platform before it faces a ban in the U.S.

on January 19th.

So is TikTok going away on January 19th if nothing happens?

Okay, I feel like everybody's being really dramatic because what's not being said about January 19th, and President Trump has said, like, he like well he'll help like he doesn't want TikTok out like he'll he's gonna figure it out so everybody's being really dramatic being like follow me on Instagram you're never gonna see me again

but also

if it's not going away let's say you know nobody can save it right and everything happens on January 19th all that means is that it's not gonna be available in the app store anymore so if you already have it downloaded the app will still work like it just it can't grow But if you have it, you can keep posting on it and engaging with it.

Oh, interesting.

Yeah.

So sure.

but that's what I heard.

That's the vibe.

Well, I just want to, I feel like the sale of TikTok has literally been in the conversation since 2020 and that there's like serious privacy issues with the app and it needs to be under new ownership where like those things would be taken care of.

And I just want to say like I nominate Kevin O'Leary.

If Kevin O'Leary buys TikTok, I will join.

How about

that?

So I'm reading, because I just wanted to like.

Fact check myself.

Okay.

So Trump has urged the Supreme Court to postpone the impending ban, which is set to take effect on January 19th.

You become president when?

On the 20th?

January 20th, yeah.

Maybe we'll have one day without the talk.

That would be

like, it'll be like those Lisa Frank memes.

The dolphins are jumping.

The rainbows are out.

Right.

It would be a good idea.

Like productivity and mental health through the roof.

So

the app is going to be

the app is going to be removed from the app store.

But like that's it the app itself

okay yeah

okay well then I guess it would like be like uno reverse when trying the reason why tick tock is upset because it'll because the app will now become unavailable to half the country that doesn't already use the app so if you already use it by the way you should just download it just in case

and ending the support service quote this is tick tock statement will cripple the platform in the US and make it unusable I don't know if that's true but if it can't grow I could say if you buy a new phone, if you get a new phone.

Yes.

So eventually it would die off.

Interesting.

Well, I think TikTok needs new ownership.

And I think Kevin O'Leary would be amazing.

What do you think about Kevin?

I'm a big Kevin fan.

Having said that, I didn't realize he was like, you know, liquid like that.

Like, I know he's got a couple billion.

But.

How I see things, like, doesn't TikTok cost like billions?

Like more than that?

Yeah.

Well, he would have like partners on putting together a team, but he also would need the support of Trump to get it through and be able to be the one.

Well, I feel like Kevin O'Leary has been like kind of political recently.

Like, I've seen him on the news a lot.

I feel like he's like trying to like start a new

sort of part of his career, like a little bit more, like.

a little bit more serious.

And this is a kind of a good step.

I think he wants to like get in with the admin.

With the admin?

Oh, the administration.

Yeah.

Oh, interesting.

And I I think this is like a step in the right direction.

And I'm sure he has a lot of wealthy friends who like would be down.

It's a good investment.

TikTok is like a very successful business.

So if you can get the money to buy it, like you should.

So I'm sure he has like a couple of

couple of other billionaires who are more quiet, sort of silent angel investors.

Yeah, because people would want to buy it.

I mean, if I had the money, I think it's pretty sound investment.

People love it.

It's like you can't stop the growth.

Yeah.

Oh, so like kind of countdown to January 19th, which will be interesting.

I didn't realize like people have been talking about it, but I kind of checked out because I'm not on the app.

Yeah.

And people literally have been saying this for five years.

So like, I know, it's Boy Who Cried Wolf.

They've literally been saying it's banned.

And it's still being banned.

It did not spend like one,

it did not spend one day being banned.

So I've moved on with my life.

Interesting.

We just have another like checkpoint coming up that we have to get past.

Who knows what's going to happen January 19th?

Right.

Okay.

I have a lot of like little countdowns.

Also, Molly May's documentary, January 17th.

Right.

Megan Markle's show.

This is great.

We're also working on a personal project, January 28th.

I don't know if you know about that.

I am?

Yeah, we're working on a personal project.

You obviously didn't look at the timeline that was sent to you yesterday.

We had like a time.

Oh, yes.

Oh, sorry.

I didn't realize that I didn't.

That's sort of like, it's not a hard day, don't you find?

I'm kind of on flux.

No, I'm actually like counting on it being a hard launch.

I need to find Megan's date because I just keep alluding to it.

Yeah, I just went on Netflix last night to like see if I could watch it and it wasn't there.

It's this week.

Hold on.

I'm getting to the end of the trailer.

Oh, I love it.

I love Megan.

I love this.

I love this documentary on Netflix.

I think you would like it.

I've watched an Avici documentary in the past before, and I really liked it.

January 15th.

Okay, longer than I thought for Megan.

This one is narrated by Vich

and they have amazing footage.

Eventually, obviously, like at some point, it stops being narrated by him.

But Ben is like such a big Avechi and like house music fan.

So I thought it was like a good pop culture thing that we could agree on.

And I really enjoyed it.

And I learned quite a bit.

And honestly, if anybody watches, tell me if you also walked away.

Like this, one of my takeaways, which is like seriously the most irrelevant part, like Chris Martin, like, was a part of the problem.

Well, not a part of the problem.

That's like an overstatement.

But they're talking about these different phases of Avici's life.

And there's like a huge phase where he's just genuinely unhappy making music that's like not

good and not like from his soul.

And he's just saying yes to everything because he's so in demand.

He's on tour.

He's just, it's classic fame.

Yeah.

Destroyed.

And the person they bring in to talk about the time working with them during working with Avici during that time is Chris Barton.

And Chris Martin's like talking about, oh, sky full of stars.

it's amazing it's amazing but in the context of the documentary it's like the worst time in a vici's life it's like he's putting out you know less than stellar music and it's like chris martin's over here being like it was so fabulous and he was so busy and it's like well actually that was like the worst time of a vici's life that was right before he like sort of crashed out decided to stop doing live performances took a ton of time off and then came back like much healthier.

So I was like, Chris Martin, yikes.

I don't know if he knew like in the context of the timeline, like he was going to be like sort of the face of the bad part.

Yeah, but he was really the doc.

The doc is saying he was making like bad music because he was at a low point, but Skyful of Stars is like one of the biggest songs ever.

Yeah, not bad music, but just like not what, and the, the documentary really shows, like, obviously he really started with like house and EDM, but like this was a person who was so supremely talented at all music.

Like he ended up being like just as big of a producer for other people, very like Ryan Tedder, than he was as a DJ himself.

And so he,

loved country music and he loved bluegrass.

Like he he could have written anything.

House was just how he like fell into music when he was a teenager.

And he realized like as his career progressed, it wasn't even his passion so much, like DJing and things like that.

It was just making music, any type of music that he thought.

Like he worked with Niall Rogers.

He worked with country soul.

And during the Chris Martin time, it was just like everybody wanted to work with him.

So he would just say yes to everyone and like bang out a song in a couple of hours.

Like it wasn't meaningful.

It wasn't from his soul, you know?

Yeah.

And he was really insecure about the fact that he didn't play any instruments like super well.

So that was something he was actively working on.

Interesting.

Maybe I will watch it, but I do, I feel like the last time in Navichi Dot came out, like it was a really, really good one.

And I still have to finish.

It's so sad.

I've been watching Aaron Rodgers.

I was telling you.

I watched two episodes so far.

Compelling.

That A-Rodge.

Yeah, he's an interesting guy.

A-Rod, I like that.

He's an interesting guy.

Okay.

So the ayahuasca stuff, like, is not really for me.

So, but it's, it's a necessary part of understanding him.

him so here we go but like going on a three-day ayahuasca trip

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So Ben and J-Lo have settled their divorce and no one is paying spousal support.

So Ben and J-Lo, um, I think we already knew this, but I was shocked once again, did not have a prenup in this little trist of theirs.

Um, but they have settled their divorce like totally amicably.

In a nutshell, they each walk away with what they have individually acquired during the marriage.

The money Ben earned from his various movie projects is his, and the same goes for J-Lo, what she earned during their two-year marriage, and neither will pay spousal support to one another.

What is most notable, though, is that Ben started his very successful production company, Artists Equity, in 2022 while he was married to J-Lo, and he will be keeping all of that, even though she technically

could have.

Yeah, but she didn't.

They're both so individually successful.

Like,

it's it's fine, you know?

Yeah, no, it's fine, but do you really just want to get out of the marriage and like put this chapter behind you?

Like, you go right, but you would think that that would happen more often and like because it's so amicable it's like they they must have had some sort of like unspoken prenup and they really trusted each other and and no one hurt the other badly enough to want to hurt them back no and this is nice to hear i was just watching a tick tock video apparently um like hallie berry has like one of the worst track records for like spousal support and settlements that she's had to pay she's been in four relationships three of them marriages but the fourth she has a child with the person so she pays child support and oh my god this video was just breaking my heart i'm surprised she doesn't work more like she needs like she's literally she gave so much money in settlements to her ex-husband

support and alimony if you have to give it all away devastating the more she works the more she has to give my heart was breaking for her in this video it was like an ai generated video do you know hallie berry's crazy divorce like and i was like no i don't let's watch um

and i agree i'm shocked that this doesn't happen more within hollywood where like marriage is sort of like this flimsy thing.

Everybody has their own individual businesses, success.

Like, yes, some people are way more wealthy than others, but with a marriage like this, a lot of people marry people who are like of equal value.

And so I'm surprised this doesn't happen more, especially if you just want to like not drag it through the courts, not go through mediation, like just by, sometimes those celebrities marry nobodies, i.e.

Harley Berry, like people who don't even have jobs.

And then

you're in trouble.

Yeah.

No, I actually, I thought this was quite remarkable.

It was mediated by Laura Wasser, who's like the divorce attorney to the stars.

However, it just seemed like she was also just spotted J-Lo going to Ben's house like hours before this.

So everything is like really good.

Why did they get married and why did they get divorced?

I don't know.

This remains like one of the weirdest sagas, like how he was engaged to her, married Jennifer Gardner, divorced Jennifer Gardner, married J-Lo, divorced J-Lo.

And now they're all best friends.

Yeah, and all their kids seem to like really get along and they seem to like have really good like step-parent relationships.

Like even J-Lo after being split from.

Ben was spotted with some of Ben and Jen's kids, which is weird because like you weren't a stepmom to them for that long.

Like you could move on.

No, it is extremely quizzling.

Yeah, in a good way.

Like this is nice, like kind of sort of utopic, utopian.

We're just using like a bunch of words.

I don't even know if quizzling is the right word.

I feel like Quizzling is not.

No, I feel like Quizzling, like, you mean like trader, collaborator.

Oh, no.

Like, you meant like puzzling.

Yeah.

Puzzling.

Puzzling.

The sword.

Finding the right words these days is just not my strong suit.

I know, but at least you have an excuse.

Like, I really don't.

It's a turn, like, it's incredibly

mystifying.

I love that.

Are you on thesaurus.com?

Yes, and I find it a bit unfathomable, if I'm being honest, how

bewildering this could all be.

Bewildering.

That's a really good word here.

Yeah, it's pretty cool.

I find it jacking.

I find it guffawing.

If I'm being honest, I'm really perplexed.

Our show is not over yet because it is Tuesday, which these days means Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment, where you guys write in and we do our best to help you out with what you're going through.

I will say, like at the end of last year, I felt the girlies were going through a lot, but it's also the time of year.

And I just want to say, based on the submissions that I read through this morning, like the girlies are okay.

They find themselves in like kind of funny like pickles.

Like a lot of these made me chuckle.

None of the circumstances are dire.

And for that,

I think it's good.

We needed a break because deer toasters takes a lot on us.

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We carry those loads.

So if you ever want to write in, it's deertoasters at gmail.com or head over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com, scroll down, there's a little submission box.

Both ways are completely anonymous, and we'd love to help you out.

Hey, Swirlies, the craziest thing happened to me.

And am I okay?

And am I in the wrong?

I went out the night before Thanksgiving, as usual, blacked out.

A guy who I've liked for a really long time and now is recently single took me home from the bar by choice, like I was fine, and I was absolutely obliterated.

I passed out in his bed, then threw up in my sleep, and obviously in his bed.

He went nuts.

He went off on me.

He screamed texted me.

He ordered an Uber using my Apple wallet, sent me away by myself.

I threw up in the Uber.

And the next morning, he sent me a link to a remote that I threw up on and said, buy it.

Am I crazy or is this man nuts?

Sincerely a toaster who had just had the spins and low-key still has a crush.

Okay.

So many things to say.

First of all, even if he didn't act so horribly, like we're writing him off because he's a bad person, like not compassionate whatsoever.

Like when this happens, it's really hard to come back from.

So even if you still liked him and he handled it like kind of well, like it's kind of hard for him to see you.

You sometimes, I remember, like I heard some stories about like people like, oh, and they fell in love.

Like never fucking happens.

It's true.

But now let's talk about the fact like run for your life.

This man is a horrible person.

Like when you go to a bar and you bring home someone like that is drunk, this is not out of the realm of possibility.

True.

People get sick.

Like don't.

Especially on Blackout Wednesday.

That is so crazy.

Like, I don't even want you to buy the remote, but then like he's going to hate you forever.

But like, you need to.

He's such a dick.

You need to hate him back.

I hate him.

To be clear, like you throwing up in his bed and on his shit like is so annoying for him like i'm sympathetic like so you came to my house and you shit everywhere like but i feel like this reminds me of the book do you ever read the hating game no so they're like these two coworkers who hate each other and they're like on like a company trip and the girl gets really sick like

death story and the guy who like she hates is like so sweet and compassionate and like that's why she falls in love with him whatever and like how people treat you when they're sick is like a real testament to like the type of people they are and like obviously it's not always you know beautiful and comfortable when someone's sick they're vomiting sharding whatever And the fact that this guy's initial reaction was so fucking nasty.

Like, this is not a compassionate person.

This is not the type of person you want to be in a relationship with.

So the fact that you still like him, like, you need to work on that.

Like, once you've seen him, you need to work on that.

And, like, he doesn't like you.

He didn't take care of you.

And worse than just like being like, uh, and not being, like,

sweet about it, that he was mean about it.

Like, it's not a nice person.

That's not your person.

So, like, you need to, like, actually forget him starting to do that.

You need to get mad.

Like, no, like.

He's mean.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But, like, what, don't even message him being mad.

like because mad requires like you need to like

Forget him him ordering an uber like and making you pay for it

and putting you in an Uber so drunk like that

sick and it's just like that's bad.

That's not a good guy agreed agreed and you know

It's important to find the lesson, right?

I know and I feel like sometimes when you're so close to it and like when you're in that stage of your life like you don't realize how serious these things are and you're just like oh my god I was drunk and it's a like crazy thing that happened but like us being you know the grannies, like putting you in danger.

Look at the situation, like that's a bad situation.

Agree.

And that's a bad guy.

I agree.

Hey, Swirlies, major crisis situation.

My boyfriend that's about to move in with me told me he snooped through my iPad and found text messages between me and my girlfriends where we were talking about guys I dated before and around the months that I first matched with my now boyfriend on Hinge.

He asked me a ton of questions about it.

It was seemingly fine.

He said everything was fine.

And it should be since we were not in a relationship at the time.

But he then disclosed that he found old nudes of mine in my camera roll the next day.

And I'm seriously pissed now.

If I wanted him to see those photos, I would have sent them to him.

I feel like a serious boundary has been crossed while I was willing to forgive the text message snooping, but this seems to be on the verge of unforgivable.

Am I overreacting?

Help me.

P.S.

He did apologize and admit it was wrong to do, and he promised that it would never happen again.

But how can I trust him now?

That's really icky.

Yeah.

And like a man being mad at a girl for anything she did before they were in a relationship is actually psychotic behavior.

Like, and I feel like it's a really big red flag.

Yeah.

Like other, like maybe problematic behavior down the line, like controlling controlling or, or

freaky.

And I don't like this man.

I know.

And so like

two days in a row, like chill.

Now you need to evaluate other stuff about him.

Cause as we always say, like, if this is the one wrong thing he did and a perfect person, everyone has a bad moment.

It makes sense.

But like, this is just pointing to controlling behavior, someone who's like very not trusting.

And maybe he has a history of someone who was like cheating on him.

And so now he looks through their phone because like paranoid, but that's his problems.

And he can't be in a healthy relationship if he's going to be acting that way.

And he's not healthy.

So you really need to.

I also feel like he was like testing you a little bit.

Like you had this seemingly like innocuous conversation about like, you know,

older people.

How long have they been dating?

I don't know, enough that they're about to move in together.

Right.

But it's like,

how does the fact that the fact that the first iPad?

The first

conversation you had was about like, you know, nothing, you didn't do anything wrong, right?

Like, I feel like he was like testing you.

And the fact that like he sort of got away with snooping, he then the next day, like, took it to, he feels like he's kind of like advancing in his fucking craziness.

And I don't know.

I don't know if I want to stick around to see what happens next.

Yeah.

It does not bode well.

Yeah.

And like, if you guys are moving in together, say you've been dating, like, someone, he's looking back at text from and pictures from like over a year, over two years.

What?

Yeah, agree.

Like a crazy person.

It's crazy behavior.

What led him to do that?

Like craziness in his own mind?

And I also also feel like how you react to the snooping will set the tone for any future snooping.

So I would have like a strong reaction to this.

I would like stop the lease, rip it up.

Agreed.

And also.

I won't live with someone who doesn't trust me and violates my privacy.

This is a person who like you're intimate with and like obviously has seen you naked.

Like it's still such an invasion of privacy to like go through someone's nudes, even if it's like someone you have sex with every day.

Rip up the lease.

Agreed.

This third and final joint toasters like actually made me chuckle.

Okay.

Finally.

Hey girls, help.

I just broke up with a boy I was dating for three months.

As I'm breaking up with him, he bursts into tears saying I'm ruining his life.

And I come to find out he has delayed his graduation to stay in town with me.

He has a freaking engagement ring and put down a down payment on a wedding venue that his whole family gets married at.

Like he's obviously crazy, but I just feel really bad.

And his family is now blowing up my phone.

What do I do?

You run.

You run so fast.

You get on your running sneakers and you start running.

Like the engagement, who gets engaged, married three months.

You didn't even like like him.

So he thought all of that was happening with him

when the energy you were giving him was impending breakup.

Run.

Don't feel bad.

Feel glad that you just had a hunch and broke up with this guy and it turned out he's a crazy person.

Bullet dodge.

Like sometimes when you break up with somebody after a long time and like their mom calls you, like that's actually, it's weird.

It's not inappropriate and depending on the relationship.

But seriously, like family members of a guy who you dated for three months calling you, not only is he crazy, he actually comes from a crazy family.

He's a crazy stock.

You need to actually like thank your lucky stars because like that could have been your family.

Yeah.

Like you walked away from the relationship.

Start running.

Oh my God.

Chuckle.

See, I told you, the girls are okay.

Like they're okay.

Yeah, I don't know.

The first two like made me sad.

Dear toasters at gmail.com.

That's the email you can write.

And I'm off to get my Kaxidinia healed.

So maybe by the time you see me tomorrow, even though I think today's just like a consultation, I might be a different person.

You never know.

I might get rid of this fucking pillow.

Wow.

I got rid of mine.

I just didn't bring it back after the break.

And

even though the pillow was never really helping me, it's just like something squishy to sit on.

Always nice.

Always nice.

It wasn't curing anything.

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We are.

Love ya.

Bye.

Hit him with the heart, turdy.

One more try.

One more try.

Do something different.

I'm doing something different.

Me too.

Oh, no.

This feels so wrong.

Definitely not.

Worst ever.

Bye.