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Good morning, Millennials.

Welcome back to the toast, and happy Thursday.

Oh my god, it's just now sort of settling in the latter half of the week.

Energy.

LH levels are high.

LH levels are high.

Correct.

Happy Thursday, La Terde.

Oh, happy Thursday to you and yours.

Thank you so much.

I am sitting on the world-renowned hemorrhoid pillow.

Did you get the one that I have?

Yeah, I shopped your affiliate link, so you're welcome to support women in business.

For the retirement fund.

I do feel like a four-year-old in a booster seat at a restaurant.

I know, I know.

And let me tell you, I do feel like the eight-year-old driving her mother's car to Target.

1,000%.

But let me tell you, like, the benefits so outweigh, because let me tell you, this thing, when I'm wearing black pants, all you can do.

I'll let you tell me.

Let me tell you.

When I'm wearing black pants on the toast and then I have this black pillow, I look like I have the fattest ass, like wide and like sort of like I'm melting into the couch.

Understood, not good.

However, I'm wearing a skirt and then my pillow is gray.

My chair is cream.

Like there's contrast.

I might just look like a mess.

Like you'll know where I start and end, but it's not going to be pretty.

Now we have a Gargie Parche episode.

It's Thursday.

It's like that day between Wednesday and Friday is how a lot of people would describe Thursday.

And it also is a day where we just can kind of relax and unclench.

Like Wednesdays are really busy here at the Toast with Dear Toasters.

And then Friday's queeny and weenie.

We're wrapping things up.

And Thursday's just kind of where we stop and look around.

Yeah, we definitely take stock of where we're at, recognize and appreciate the space that we're in.

How are you feeling about that?

Well, I'm feeling really crazy today because I was in Margo's apartment on Friday.

And oh, we have a wedding, and she was showing me what dress she's wearing because I need to get a dress.

And so it, you know, obviously she got undressed.

I'm just, I want to give a little context as to why I saw Margo's bra.

She had on such a gorgeous bra, and I was like, you know what?

I'm going to get it.

Like,

you have like bra FOMO.

No, well, because I'm like, and the thing I'm realizing is I don't have bra FOMO.

Like, I have breast FOMO.

Like, I looked at Margo's breast.

I'm like, wow, that bra makes her breasts look so.

She just has like a better breasts than me.

Cause I got this bra.

I'm wearing it today.

First of all, it's like definitely the wrong size.

It's Kelvin Klein.

It's sheer.

It's definitely like underwire.

Jacket shop.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

It's like, I would love to show you.

Like, I really would.

I don't know what I'm doing.

You know, I feel silly.

I feel stupid.

It's been less than a week for you to figure that out.

I feel like that's pretty good timing.

Some people go months, like before they realize, what am I doing?

Yeah, this is my first wear, and I know immediately that it's not for me.

Okay.

Well, people make mistakes.

And there are just things like I can be inspired to buy from Margo.

And I just, I've now learned bras is not one of them.

Yeah.

I need to be influenced by like older heavyset women.

Older maiden type.

Yeah, old maiden type of bras.

Like those are the people I need to follow for bra influence.

It's so so true it's just like i tried so you wouldn't recommend well if you are young and tight like if you don't need a bra right here

understand

you down to orchard street you go well i had a very exciting evening last night because i went to home goods for the first time and the world has just opened up to me yeah I feel like you saying you've never been to home goods is not something you should be proud of.

Like, it's disgraceful that you've never been.

No, I know.

And I was put on to home goods when we were in the Hamptons because Ben went every other day to get a little this, a little that for his cooking.

And he always like wanted me to go with him.

And I was like, if I go, I'm going to buy so much stuff.

And I need this stuff at home, not for our one month left on our rental.

So I didn't go and I waited till I was home so that I could get all my tchotchkis.

And home goods like was everything that everyone said it would be.

The only thing is, I actually think for me personally, I went at a bad time of year because everything is Halloween right now.

And that's not my joy you know i just like breeze right past it i don't like fill my home with halloween stuff it's just like i just don't there's you know you don't have to explain yourself i don't have to explain myself like you are though i it's like a pagan holiday um and like the colors are not pleny so there was a lot of of real estate at the store taken up by that that I just had to, I look forward to seeing what's there when it's not Halloween.

But all in all, like, I did so well.

I'm still thinking about things that I didn't buy.

I think I'm going to go back today and buy them.

HomeGoods is a really special place.

There are, I think, one or two in the city.

They don't hit the same.

Like an urban home goods,

it's not even close to like

strip mall home goods.

I feel like an urban home goods is like an oxymoron.

They contradict each other because like when you're living in a city in smaller spaces, like you don't have the space for odds and ends and knickknacks.

Like you actually should not have those things, really.

But when you have like a

more space and you need things to fill it up, ergo, home goods.

But the thing about home goods is like you can find the essentials there too.

And for

a really long time, there was an enormous Pier One imports like in Flatiron.

I feel like that really served the purpose for New Yorkers.

We never felt like we needed a home goods.

We had the Pier One.

I feel like it's closed.

I feel like Pier One in general, like, did they file for Chapter 11?

I don't know.

Is Pier One in the room with us?

I feel like they're not.

And like, it was good.

You know, it was.

Yeah.

No, I had the essentials because otherwise, how did I get here without my essentials?

So I was really going for crapola.com and I found so many fabulous crap things.

But like in a real way, I'm very, very excited.

I think this is the start of a really, a great relationship between HomeGoods and I.

No, HomeGoods is amazing.

Yeah.

Like.

It was everything I was like hoping for.

And I felt like, I also feel like sometimes maybe you don't have a good HomeGoods.

You know, everyone's could be different.

They're low inventory.

You don't get the good stuff.

I think they definitely at HomeGoods HQ have a quality control issue.

I'm being dead serious.

I think a lot of people are doing that.

There are some like run-down bad home goods.

There are some like good stores.

It just depends, really.

But my HomeGoods was good.

It was a good HomeGoods.

It puts the good in HomeGoods.

So I feel HomeGoods proud.

I'm so glad that you've had this awakening.

It's the best place on earth.

I think it's akin to like, for me, what people feel to Target, you know?

Like, yeah, spend the whole day getting a big, you know, drink and roaming around Target.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm surprised that eight-year-old girl didn't drive to home good.

She obviously isn't in her nesting area yet.

You can't like spend the whole day walking around because the more you fill your cart, like the more of a hazard you become.

Because like there's like mugs sitting on the corner of the shelf.

There's vases everywhere.

And like my cart was.

full of cards.

You got like three ottomans in your cart.

And I was like, I'm a hazard.

I'm going to take down a shelf full of stuff.

Like it's time to go.

It's not a store you can shop in haste.

You really need to be careful and considerate while shopping, not just.

And you you max, you max out.

You can't just like, honestly, I was halfway through the store when I was like, I guess I have to leave because my cart is full.

No, people literally like be putting full couches in their carts.

But I feel like the people who work at home goods like want you to break stuff.

They definitely have like a terrible policy where like you break it, you buy it.

And they put probably the cracked things on the edge so that you do break it and you have to buy it so they don't have to eat the cost.

1,000%.

That's my home goods conspiracy because like, seriously, how are people not knocking things over?

And everyone in the city, like everything's on top of each other.

Like, it's real.

It's not even spread out.

It's really crazy.

No, what if you're not?

There was an earthquake.

There was that earthquake one time.

What happened at HomeGoods, New York?

I actually think the last time we were there, which was for our old apartment, Ben broke something and just like ran away.

Classic.

Also, one thing that I really wanted was crack, so I didn't get it.

But it's like, who did that to me?

Why don't you check online?

That's what Olivia said.

But is HomeGoods online?

I was going to say, I feel like HomeGoods does not have an online e-commerce presence.

It definitely wouldn't hit the same.

No, the magic really needs to be experienced IRL.

I agree.

However, like if you find something in the store and there's only like one, but you need to, like, Livy found a pillow she really liked.

It'd be really great if they had online to just like that add to cart.

By the way, that happens a lot.

I see people on TikTok like, get the viral home goods and they go to their home goods and there's one and they literally are driving all around town looking for the second ottoman or whatever.

Oh, goodness.

Yeah.

Okay, because you're kind of making me want to be living in my future, but I don't want to spend my days like that.

Like, I think if there's only one

bygones, be bygones.

There was only one of the days I liked, and I had to leave it.

Oh, devastating.

Maybe I'll go back.

Because where I would put it, you wouldn't see the crack.

You just have to find out when inventory day is at your local home goods so that you go the next day.

You're like,

yeah.

Yeah, I feel like I'm going to get up.

I'm going to get on like HomeGoods reels now.

I feel like when I was there, I could really, like, I was like, I've seen this in an influencer's kitchen.

What is, I'm like, really

blanking on, what is that brand that we became obsessed with that has the mugs with the font?

Ray Dunn.

Ray Dunn.

Ray Dunn is a cornerstone of home goods.

And

the Ray Dunn swirlies, like they wait outside home goods on inventory day.

So

you need to get in with your local Ray Dunn community.

I feel like Ray Dunn is not done, but like there was so much surplus there that it's not what it used to be in terms of

it.

Well, the demand was met and now like everyone got what they needed.

Now they have all this stuff.

Now they have all this supply.

All this pile of stuff.

Yeah.

Ray Dunn reminds me.

I don't know why I can't think of stuff today.

Lula Rowe.

Lula Rowe.

The Venn diagram.

The Venn diagram of Lula Rowe sellers and Ray Dunn, like girls who wait outside the store is just a circle.

Yeah.

There were these two chairs, like

what would you call it?

Like sofa chairs almost that I really want to get.

Like, how do I get those in my car?

You have to go with Zach and you need to take Zach's car, not yours.

Yeah, maybe we both go and we put one in each car.

That's the thing about home goods.

Like, not only does it require a key.

And how do I, like, get those chairs to the

checkout counter?

So it also requires like a physical strength

and like a logic, like a real sense of logic.

Like, what's the best way to get this enormous chair to the checkout, to my car?

And it's not like Ikea where they give you those huge like dollies.

It's literally the same shopping cart you would use at the grocery store.

No, and the aisles are tiny.

Because there's so much goodness to be had.

It's so true.

I love this journey for you.

Do keep it secret.

I will.

I will let you know about the chairs and the vase.

Of course.

And, you know, whatever else I might find.

They're selling like huge diptyque candles.

I saw them on my way out.

Wow.

Yeah.

So I might have to go back.

And you know, HomeGoods is a part of the TJ Maxx and Marshalls family.

Like they're all.

Yes.

How does that family work?

What's their relation?

Well, in the city, there there is the Marshalls in Flatiron on like 18th Street is a part of one big store that has a Marshalls, a TJ Maxx.

I don't know if there's a home goods still there.

That was like at Breach Hampton Commons and like you didn't know which store you were at.

But it's because they're a part of the same conglomerate.

Okay, but like what's the differences in what they sell?

Oh, well, TJ Maxx is like.

Overstock, right?

They get deals on high-end items for much lower prices or like

from the brands.

Like you always know it's a bad sign.

This used to be a thing that Jeffree Star used to do.

He would go to TJ Maxx and see what brands aren't selling.

And when you have so much product that's not being sold, you sell it to like a TJ Maxx to sell at half price.

Got it.

Okay.

So that's TJ Maxx.

Marshalls, I feel like, is a very entry-level department store.

Okay.

You know, it's like kind of a Macy's, but more accessible.

Got it.

Because HomeGoods like doesn't have like clothes.

No, Marshalls has clothes.

Got it.

Okay.

And HomeGoods is kind of the furniture department of Marshalls.

Well, I could also say like HomeGoods, thank you for explaining it in the title.

It's goods for your home.

Marshalls should be called like everything goods.

Goods for your closet.

Everything goods.

Closet goods.

Yeah, I agree.

Marshalls is kind of a terrible name.

Yeah, like I don't know what you're doing.

When I think of Marshall, I think of like a larger older gentleman named Marshall.

But like Marshalls like and Lowe's, the two names, like they're just like, they do very different things, the stores, but like Lowe's could be Marshalls and Marshalls could be Lowe's.

Like, what are you selling?

It's actually so true.

Like, you know, it's like, like, at least TJ Maxx, I know it's like, what is that?

But at least they've established like Maxinista.

Like, I know

I can be like a fashionista, but a Maxinista if I go to, like, I, I know.

They worked with what they had and they made the most of it from a branding perspective.

I completely agree.

I think the Home Depot is a great name for it for a brand.

Like, you know exactly where you're getting.

Thank you.

Bed, Bath, and Beyond.

Thank you.

Well, that did them no good because they went out of business.

Stop.

That's such a loss.

It's such a loss.

It's really a loss for the girlies who are engaged because being, having your registry at Bed, Bath, and Beyond was like a life hack.

you could really you could return like this expensive mixer someone got you and buy anything yeah it's true it was the best place on the planet and miss it every day actually like girlies who are going to college or going to camp like where do you go no that like big bed bath and beyond trip you took when you moved moved into your first apartment like you needed everything cups silverware that's like one of the fondest moments of my life and i remember when i went um ben's mom drove us and when we were getting out she gave us her credit card like so generous we were like oh my god like we we were our first appearance spender we had to buy everything and then we went like a little nuts we were being disrespectful but queen

spend

a little time

with me speaking of shopping jaunts a little update from yesterday's story we've got a lot of information about the eight-year-old who went to target i just want to share with the class she's five

the eight the eight-year-old's like former teacher at her school um said that she's 5'3.

she also made a very interesting comment saying, like, if you knew her, this isn't surprising.

Troubled youth.

What troubled youth does that mean?

Troubled youth.

Also, video of the eight-year-old driving on the street.

Yeah, that, to me, put the whole situation in perspective.

Like, we're having a lot of fun.

If you saw the way this girl was driving, seriously.

Like, it wasn't impressive.

No, not in the slightest.

And it was a true hazard.

Thankfully, she lives, I want to say, in like kind of a remote area because there was no one else on the road.

And maybe it was a time of day, like a quiet time of day, there was no one else on the road.

And the one person who was on the the road with her, like called it into the police and literally said, like, it looks like a kid is driving this car.

So like nothing to be admired there.

No.

Also, people who do live in Bainbridge have said that you do not need to get on the highway, that she didn't drive on the highway.

And she was driving in Nissan Rogue.

So that's like the information I feel was pertinent to the situation.

Also, Tom Petty is dead.

Correct.

Yeah, I said on the show a couple of days ago that he was alive.

And

he was dead.

He was alive in 2014.

First, you said he was dead, then you said he was alive.

I said, Of course, he's alive.

And then he was dead.

Classic.

Classic.

Oh, something that's happened to me is I've kind of been inundated by the algorithm.

The algorithm wants me to watch Dancing with the Stars.

And honestly, I'm feeling quite compelled.

I've now seen everyone's performances in full.

And I'm going to try my best to keep up.

And I just do want to say that, because I want to check back in a couple of weeks to see if I was right.

My picks for winners in terms of celebrity, in terms of talent, in terms of fans, all, you know, all-encompassing, well-rounded.

I'm going with Dwight Howard or Phaedra.

I said Dwight Howard.

Jackie, did you see his performance?

No.

Let me tell you to see.

He has real.

What about Pomo Horse Steve?

You said that he was the one to watch.

That's what everybody says, but this is my opinion.

Oh, okay.

But why don't, like, do you have something to say about why it wouldn't be him?

Do you think maybe just like he doesn't have the fans?

No, I think like the community wants him to win and he's like the obvious choice right now.

And they never choose the obvious choice, first of all.

So that's that.

Second of all, I just had really low like expectations in the actual gutter for Dwight Howard, but he has moves.

Like he has definitely has rhythm.

He has beat.

He was having so much fun.

He was, I just, like, his performance, I was obsessed with, really, truly obsessed with.

And then Phaedra.

Like, Phaedra is my queen.

So on a personal level, I want her to win.

And then she really has the moves to back it up.

Do you think Danny Amendola like stands a chance?

Like, no.

Actually, I think the only chance he might have is like if xandra's fans vote for him but she's not even like really publicly acknowledging him right

okay so more than ever danny needs xandra

yeah

oh my god it's like grease danny and sand zandy

little zandra

don't i'm triggered

um how are this actually feel like the stories are really good today i mentioned yeah i meant to connect with you offline they're like they're really solid and i would say they're all of equal import so it's like not breaking news in like four lesser stories.

I actually was at like seven whittle to five.

So there was, there's a lot of interesting subject matter to discuss.

As the kids would say, we're being fed.

We're being fed while we're sat.

We are sat on our hemorrhoid pillows and we are being fed.

And you know what?

I ate.

I just want to say this actually is not a hemorrhoid pillow.

I need to stop referring to it because I'm going to get a reputation as being like a girl who has hemorrhoids.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

I just don't have.

It's a sciatica pillow.

Oh, I have sciatica.

Let's see if it helps.

Because like what I describe, people have said said like that sounds like sciatica.

What I, when I Google sciatica, um, that seems to be what it is.

So let's see if it helps me.

I just want to say I Google diagnosed myself too, and I didn't get coccidinia.

And then I went to a real doctor and got my diagnosis.

But I saw a video about coccidinia, I think because it was like someone, someone stitched our episode where like a doctor or something.

A doctor, and they were like coccidinia, also known as tailbone pain.

And I just feel like that's really minimizing.

Diminishing, yeah.

you know like of course we all have pain like get over that I think I speak on behalf of the coxydidia community when I say we're used to it like we are used to this type of treatment this type of belittlement is that a word and

not shock

not shocking but hurtful nonetheless yeah I was even hurt for you because I was like tailbone

make it sound like nothing

yeah like

make it smaller.

My thumb hurts.

Right.

My thumb does hurt.

Although I want to say, I feel move, I feel power coming back to my thumb.

I feel like I'm getting a little bit more control.

I think, do you think?

Do you think your thumb is taking power from your tailbone?

I think the two are definitely working together to bring me back to life, the best version of myself.

I think they're connected.

Oh my God, you know what I'm doing tonight?

No.

I'm choking.

Sorry.

I'm going to see my boyfriend.

Maverick?

So close.

No, I'm going to see my boyfriend.

Okay.

My boyfriend is performing at Madison Square Garden.

Frank, the physical therapist?

My boyfriend is performing at Madison Square Garden.

I mean, your boyfriend used to be John Mayer.

I don't think that's who it is.

Think outside the box a little bit.

I'm trying to think of who's performing at Madison Square Garden.

That's your boyfriend.

And who is, like, you know, my boyfriend, my boyfriend who was on the podcast?

Jet?

No.

Your boyfriend who was on the the podcast, Andy Grammer?

No.

Recently, you weren't there.

Jay Shetty?

Oh, my God.

Like, Sebastian Maniscalculo.

You're supposed to know me better than anyone else.

Sebastian Maniscalco.

Yeah, my boyfriend.

I was about thinking a musical artist.

That's why I was stumped in the beginning.

I'm like, who's your musical artist's boyfriend?

He's kicking off four nights at the garden.

I'm so proud of him.

And he invited me to come.

Oh, he invited you.

I was going to say, like, did you browse it?

No, no, he invited me.

I'm going to go say hi to Jim.

That's major.

Yeah, yeah, just like big podcaster things, you know?

Are you gonna bring Ben or no?

Cause it's your boyfriend.

I am because like Ben loves him.

Like that would be mean.

Understood.

That's cool.

I'm cooking steak tonight.

Oh my god, Ben cooked steak the other night.

Steak is so good.

I've never made steak in my kitchen before.

Like I've never cooked steak before.

That's not shocking.

It's like kind of an expert level cooking.

It is.

It is.

But we went to a steakhouse this weekend.

They had a kosher steak on the menu, so I felt like I had to order it.

And I gobbled it down, even though I'm not a big steak eater.

Like it was so fantastic.

So by the way, talk to Ben because Ben had a cooking lesson with Jeffree Zakarian about steak.

And ever since then, he has made the most amazing steaks.

And Jeffree really simplified it.

Like, it's not hard.

Interesting.

And we use the new Caraway cast iron.

It's the best thing to make steaks on.

Do you have one?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Interesting.

Not an ad, just the truth.

Classic us.

Being honest to a fault.

Are we ready for these stories that we've spoken so highly of?

I mean, you're never truly ready.

You just kind of get thrown into it.

It's very true, but I feel like now is as good a time as any.

Sure, sure, sure.

To get into the fast five stories that you need to know.

Okay, actually, one thing I forgot to say, I went out to dinner last night and I was like using the ladies' room and somebody opened the door on me and it was my fault.

Like I thought I locked it, but I didn't.

In the stall or it was like...

In a stall.

So it was like three stalls in a stall.

It wasn't exposing you to the restaurant.

No, no, no, but I've been there before.

Where like the one stall bathroom is in the middle of the restaurant.

The worst thing on the planet.

No, I heard the girl next to me on the toilet and then the girl who was trying to get into the stall opened the door on her.

And I was like, oh my God, moron, lock the door.

Next thing I know, literally the door is open.

We both didn't lock the door.

And

it's funny what sounds you make, like naturally, right?

I didn't know that she was going to open the door on me.

So this was my natural reaction.

And like, honestly, I was horrified at the sound that came out of me.

Ho, ho, ho!

Like, literally, like dramatic older woman.

I believe that.

I think we have many clips of you making that sound on the show, like when you get scared, when like the UPS delivery man arrives.

Literally.

And there's just kind of a nothing worse.

What do you think?

I always feel really awkward opening the door on other people, but having the door opened on you is far worse.

I think,

ooh, it's both really bad.

I couldn't say.

Right?

Depends on, were you wearing a romper, in which case, like, oh my gosh, you might want to just go straight home.

Thankfully, I was wearing sweater and jeans.

Like, I was fully covered.

Totally covered.

She should be embarrassed.

1,000%.

no she's so aggressive she literally two people she walked in on in a matter of 10 seconds yeah no it's a hurt problem the stall door is shut like you do open it with caution by the way yes

because yes those those locks are a formality like it's not really they don't really keep people out.

No, and I'm thinking when I went to the bathroom, there were three stalls.

Two of the doors were closed and one of them was like ajar.

So I just went in that one.

I didn't even knock on the other two.

You really like, you're so right.

You need to open with caution even if the door is closed.

Yeah, like take a peek through the side.

You knock like, uh, Ella.

Anyone?

Yeah, that girl had no manners.

Totally.

It was her fault.

Totally.

She's ashamed.

Not me for not locking the door.

No, because like probably you both did lock the door, but the locks on those doors didn't work.

Yeah, it's giving, it's giving the locks problem, not mine.

Yeah, those are fake locks, like, you know, camp bathroom locks.

Like, it's totally.

Yeah, not your fault.

Forget yourself.

Now I'm ready.

Are you?

Yep.

Without further ado, to do to do, here are the fast five stories that you need to know.

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Our first story: Zach Bryan Bryan has stepped in it.

He has apologized for drunkenly tweeting that Kanye West is better than Taylor Swift.

So last night, Zach Bryan was on Twitter and he posted a tweet saying this,

Eagles greater than Chiefs, Kanye greater than Taylor.

And what was the third one?

That was a.

Oh, I thought that was.

And then it was like, you know, it's true.

Yeah, he was like, what you guys think?

Like, yeah, yeah yeah like definitely drunk he has since deleted that tweet and then he posted and he is spiraling on Instagram stories.

He posted this on Instagram.

He like shared the song Fortnite from TTBD and said for the record guys I wasn't coming for Taylor the other night.

I was drunkenly comparing two records and it came out wrong.

I know there's a lot of stuff that clouds around yay and I was speaking purely musically.

I love Taylor's music and pray you guys know I'm human and tweet stupid things often.

Hope one day I can explain this to her.

Twitter gets me in trouble too much and I'd say it's best I stay off it.

I'm sorry to any Taylor fans I pissed off or let down.

Love you guys, and I'm trying my best.

No, no, he seriously then posted two more with different songs, The Albatross.

Just be like, you guys, I'm not like backpedaling.

I just really want you to know.

I hope I can explain this to Taylor one day.

Like, seriously, having a meltdown, it's kind of the funniest thing ever.

The thing is, it's a bad tweet, right?

Obviously, like, if we're comparing Kanye and Taylor, like, one is so clearly better than the other.

Music,

overall, musically.

He didn't say that in the tweet.

So it looked like like just like he was taking Kanye's side in the beef.

That's really what it looked like.

And then on top of that, like Eagles greater than Chiefs.

Now, I don't have a stake in this game, but like statistically, that's also incorrect.

They literally played each other most recently.

And the Chiefs won.

So like, it's incorrect on all fronts.

This isn't the first time that Zach Bryan has like made news with his tweets.

Like he does need to listen and learn, you know, like really stop drinking and going on Twitter.

I think a lot of us learn that early on when you get a platform.

Now, I'm not a big Zach Bryan fan, but I'm not a Zach Bryan hater.

I I think I'm more often than not like going to like root for him.

Root for him because I like his story.

I love that he dates an influencer and he's always out here defending that influencer.

That's like really all I know about him.

And I know that like she gets so much hate because so many girls are so fucking jealous of her.

And he is always like telling everyone to fuck all the way off.

Like he rides for his girlfriend.

To me, it's the most attractive quality in a man.

So this tweet was obviously a tough read.

I'm a Taylor Swirly.

I'm loving the spiraling on Instagram.

I do feel like he learned his lesson.

And that's all we can ask from people, right?

Yeah, I'm rooting for him as well.

I do think at his level, like drinking and tweeting is like, it's going to get him in trouble.

This isn't even like that bad.

It's just putting him in a really bad spot with like Swifties and then, you know, Taylor.

And I don't know if Taylor could forgive something like this.

But then I also think it's weird that he's like talking about the Chiefs and Taylor in the same tweet.

It's giving like coming for Taylor's whole life.

Yeah, no, it felt targeted.

It felt targeted, period.

It didn't, he said, I'm comparing two records.

You weren't.

You would literally

It didn't appear to be about music at all.

He had been posting before that, like, a bunch of old Kanye songs.

Like, I think he was, like, just down a Kanye wormhole, like, that's fine, listening to the great hits, drinking.

Say, and maybe he heard Fortnite in the background, Breonna Chicken Fries playing it, and he's like, Kanye's greater than Taylor.

The thing is, is that I think anyone who was hoping for a Zach Bryan ex-Taylor Swift collab, like the dreams are gone.

Although.

Do you think Taylor could forgive this?

Taylor is at a place where every time she spotted with someone, there was like a couple

like scenarios where every time she was spotted with someone, that person had an old tweet about Taylor.

Like, but literally, Brittany Mahomes had like old tweets about Taylor.

I think it's sort of like when you're at the level that she's at, you can't be bogged down.

The only thing is that this wasn't an old tweet.

It was literally yesterday.

I don't know if she was planning on collabing with Zach Bryan.

I don't know.

But I feel like she's not going to.

I don't think she's going to forgive this.

Taylor can forgive, but the Kanye of it all, she can't.

Yeah, but it's her Roman Empire.

But then also the Chiefs of it is weird.

Like, why you gotta bring that up?

The thing is, is like,

I do believe Zach Bryan's a talented musician.

And if you are a talented musician, you have to respect Taylor Swift.

I find that almost all of them do.

So I don't think he dislikes Taylor Swift.

I don't think he thinks she's untalented, but I don't think his explanation for the tweet is valid.

Like, you weren't comparing records.

It was clearly about Taylor because you put the Chiefs in there.

So explain it.

Explain it more.

I don't know.

know.

I do think it was about the music, like in his drunken way.

And I felt like maybe he didn't think he needed to explain himself.

I mean, like, you know, you're not the most, the best judge when, when you're drunk, but then they also say, like, in wine, there is truth.

Right.

Drunk, drunk thoughts, drunk words, sober thoughts.

I do feel like he is sorry, not even because he's getting hate, but I think he's just sorry, period.

Like, I think what's in his heart is good, but he stepped in it.

And like, for what?

For nothing?

Like, I know.

Like, by the way, I can imagine, this is a lesson you have to learn the hard way as, like, a person with a platform.

And some people, some musicians or like actors, their relationship to social media is very different.

His, like, he enjoys it.

It's not something he feels like he has to do with it.

And I think it's a big part of the label.

It's part of his success.

Like, that's how he met, like, most of his audience found him because he does his own social media and he's like, really, like, grassroots.

Yep.

So to now then hand it over to the label would also be wrong.

No, but he has to restructure his relationship with social media, Twitter specifically, because

the alcohol.

just take the alcohol out of the relationship with social media.

I think that's a good rule for every person on earth.

Agreed.

There comes a time in anyone's life, whether you're a content creator, a musician, an actor, who uses social media, where you realize, and for me, oddly enough, Chrissy Teigen taught me this lesson.

You don't have to post, like every thought that you have doesn't need to be shared.

Every experience you have doesn't need to be shared.

And ever since I really had that realization, I have like deleted countless Instagram stories just because they were like stupid.

Like, who fucking cares?

Having that realization is so healthy, and I think it's so helpful.

And maybe he hasn't had it yet.

Maybe this is it.

I don't think this is going to be it, actually.

Maybe.

You know, I think it's going to get a little worse before it gets better.

Okay.

I don't think this is going to have a major impact on his career.

Not at all.

He's so successful.

His fans love him.

I think it will just like now he's on Taylor's list.

Yeah.

And that's not what you want to be.

It's just not true.

She's powerful and not that she'll go out of her way to hurt him, but she won't go out of her way to help him.

Exactly.

And I'm sure like Breonna Chicken Fry is a Swifty and like this hurts her.

And I'm thinking of her today.

I actually feel like she's not a Swifty.

Really?

She's not.

She's not.

Why do you say that?

Like she has said she's not?

She just didn't get like...

Yeah, she has like said that she's like, like, she doesn't get the hype.

Maybe Brianna tweeted it.

So maybe it's like a home.

home

maybe it's a home full of taylor haters oh so then if she's not a spifty i don't think even if taylor's like you know throwing darts at them every night like they don't care yeah yeah yeah i was more so concerned for her because i'm like okay so we're not performing together revival backstage with tailored

yeah um and i was sad for her but if she doesn't even want that then literally nobody cares and he's gonna do it again he's gonna

do it again it sounds like they don't give a rip which is fine and very on brand friend but the spiraling on instagram stories does make me question yeah

Maybe they're at the same label or something.

Universal Studios?

They're all the same to me.

Like, I don't know.

No, there's Big Machine, which is just country people.

Yeah, it's the Taylor's, like, Nemeses and Rascal Flats.

And Rascal Flats is there.

So, like, I personally can't hate it that much.

I'm sorry.

No,

I will.

I will have to support Big Machine.

Like, I just will.

I'm so sorry.

There's Universal, which is where Taylored went.

Columbia.

Republic.

Which is Beyonce.

Yeah, that's like Jonas Brothers, Republic.

Capital.

Yeah, I think.

Iron Brothers.

Wirener.

The thing is, and this is why

when I saw the tweet,

because people have like well-thought-out critiques of Taylor and her music, right?

If you have like a respectful criticism, you're allowed to hold space for different opinions.

But the fact that the person he was comparing it to was Kanye made it felt targeted.

Because if he had said, like,

Sabrina or Springsteen, right, greater than, or who does she get compared to, like, the Beatles?

Sure.

Someone at that level.

But her and Kanye are not on the same level, and they have completely, like, a big history.

So it was, it was, he made a choice.

He did.

He made a choice.

So.

Having in awe,

but, okay, flat.

I don't even know what you're saying.

Oh, okay.

No, not to make everything about me, but Pete Alonzo went to the Zach Bryan concert and went on stage, obviously, for revival, because he's like a New York hero.

And

not to be Madison Beer, but like me and Ben were supposed to go with him.

But like, I had like an engagement party or something.

And like, I would have been there, like, OP, you know.

I had to see the list of regrets.

Yeah.

Hope that's a good friend that you made.

Oh, my God.

Since we are sports cats, do you know about that like this big thing happening in sports?

I mean, there's so many.

Yeah, that was pretty big.

The baseball one.

Is it keeping up with sports?

It's 50-50.

Do you know what I'm talking about?

No.

So 50-50 is this

baseball stat that nobody has ever hit.

It's actually somebody has it.

It's called the 50-50 Club.

And this baseball player, Shohai Otani, who plays for the Dodgers, he's like probably going to hit it.

And most recently, the only person who got even close was a 42-42 A-Rod.

And it's 50 home runs and 50 steals in the same season, which is unheard of.

Now, I think I saw an interview with Shohai.

Well, do you know he had got a 10-year, $700 million contract with the Dodgers?

Damn.

I mean, like, that's who Sandra should be dating.

1,000%.

Okay.

So, oh, nobody's ever done it.

The club won't exist until he creates it.

No player has ever hit 50 home runs and stolen 50 bases in the same season.

Putting the Dodgers started in uncharted territory, even if he doesn't record a 50-50 this season, it'll still be like the greatest ever.

Well,

did Babe Ruth do it?

Oh, that's what the 40-40 Club is.

Oh, my God, no way.

Like Jay-Z's bar?

The 40-40 club?

That's like what it is.

But now it's the 50-50 club.

Because he's setting bar higher.

And A-Rod, I guess, one time beat the 40-40 club.

Got it.

Cool.

I'm like not really into baseball.

No, me neither.

Yes, show how he's at 48-48.

Before that, last year, Ronald Akuna Jr.

was 43 home runs and 73 stolen bases.

Alfonso Siriano, 46-41.

A-Rod, 42-46.

Barry Bonds, 42.40.

And Jose Conseco, Josie's dad, 42.40.

Josie's dad.

But nobody's gotten 50-50.

Sometimes people have done like really good in one category and not the other.

But you wonder.

So that's what's going on in baseball.

And he's so cute.

Have you seen a picture of him?

I have.

Rooting for Shohai.

No, I love him.

He's so cute.

That's really cute.

Rooting for Shohai.

I wonder what his personal life is like.

I feel like baseball players are the least thirsty.

Yeah, they're very busy with baseball.

Yeah, like we don't know a lot about them.

He's 30 years old.

Oh, my God.

His birthday, he was born the same year, five days before me.

Oh, my God.

I knew I felt a connection to Showtie.

He's July 5th, 1994.

Wow.

He's 6'4.

Okay, Sandra.

That was the other thing.

Zandra.

That was the other thing I wanted to say about Dwight Howard is when you're that tall, like you really don't have the ability to be coordinated.

Yeah.

It's just, you can't be good at everything.

And like sometimes the time it takes your brain to tell your foot to move, like the mission.

The show is over.

Yeah.

So I was really surprised at his coordination, too, because he's a giant.

Proud of him.

Like he has my whole support.

I kind of love him.

Rooting for Dwight.

And Shohai.

And, of course.

And someone else

that I'm rooting for is our next story, one of my queens.

It's actually sad story, sort of.

Hayden Penetier is sparking concern with an uncomfortable and sad interview.

So Hayden Penetier gave a sit-down interview to People Magazine, a heartfelt interview in which she spoke about vulnerable topics like her brother's death and her daughter.

But her demeanor in the clips has sparked some serious concern among fans.

So people posted one video of Peyton talking, I mean, Hayden, Hayden, Hayden, talking about her daughter, just telling a story about how her daughter's like really similar to her.

And something is going on with Hayden in the clip.

So a little backstory for those who don't know, like after Hayden Panetier gave birth, her whole world kind of fell apart.

She had a very, very severe case of postpartum depression, so much so to the point that her child ended up in full custody of her father,

the child's father.

And they actually live in another country.

I actually believe they live in Germany.

They kind of wanted nothing to do with Hollywood or anything.

And she got treatment for her postpartum for years, like probably one of the most severe cases.

And then she struggled with addiction and then she suffered personal loss.

And like a year ago, she did this big interview with

People Magazine as like, I'm back.

Like I am finally through this journey journey of sobriety, of by postpartum.

Like, she had been through intense therapy, intense recovery.

And it was like, she was out on the other side, and she had this short haircut.

And she was talking about her daughter for the first time.

How, like, yeah, it's obviously unconventional that the daughter lives with her father, but like, she is like completely unable to be a parent.

And she made the very, really selfless decision to let her.

her kid's father be the full-time parent.

And it was kind of a beautiful moment.

And I think people really struggled to understand her until that.

And then after that video, her brother passed away.

And it's clear that she

has not recovered from that and perhaps slipped back into some bad habits because of that grief.

And while none of that is like crazy news, the fact that

this interview aired, I do, at what point does a tabloid or any media outlet, like, at what point do they stop?

Like you watch this video, you're like, how many people actually sat in the room for this interview?

Yeah.

Didn't stop it, edited this interview.

And didn't stop it.

Published this interview.

And the comments, I was reading the comments and everybody was like, are you guys kidding me?

Like, delete this.

Yeah, they're like, take this down, please.

Have some respect and compassion.

You and someone else, you really didn't need to post this and do further harm.

This is just sad.

Because so the video, what she's saying.

She's not speaking anything crazy.

No, she's not speaking anything crazy.

Like she makes a lot of sense and she's saying like really beautiful, like vulnerable things.

But like her speech is slurred.

Her eyes seem very heavy.

So I think people jump to the conclusion that like she is drunk.

But this happens a lot.

Like with, remember we talked about with like Jessica Simpson, Rachel Ray.

This is the most severe.

Yes, I think that's the same thing.

This is not like Rachel Ray also booko, like Rachel doing her

Tony Danza in her kitchen.

Yeah,

not at all.

No.

This was like truly sad and hard to watch and not something where like with Rachel Ray, like I don't think anybody needed to pull the interrupt.

I think Rach, Rach was being Rach.

And the thing is, is like with Rachel Ray and Jessica Simpson, those are all videos that they put out on their channels.

They had kind of had consent.

When you're in that situation, definitely People magazine like had consent.

She sat down for the interview, like she wanted to do this, but like at a certain point, like it's on them to be like,

this feels wrong.

It's heartbreaking.

It's one of the saddest videos I've ever watched.

And she's talking about how she will never, ever, ever, ever, ever recover from the loss of her brother.

So she's like talking about this thing that broke her.

It's

my first thought when I watched it was like, shame on People magazine.

And then I opened the comments and everybody was saying the same sort of thing and I'm glad that we all have the same reaction but like at what point do we like

punish like these outlets?

It's so exploitive and people magazine like I feel like at one point in time was one of those like dirty tabloids airport tabloids, but they've really like stepped up their pussy in recent years and separated themselves from like the us magazines and the okay they're like supposed to be

they don't do tabloid gossip they do like sit down interviews and then they just like write up human interest stories and celebrity news stories but they're not like so-and-so is spotted here and there Right.

Also, then I saw that first clip that we had sent each other when she's talking about her daughter.

Like, she's speaking in the video the entire time we're watching her.

And then I saw another clip where she's talking about her brother.

And I feel like they re-edited it so that it wasn't as quote-unquote exploitative.

Like the first 10 seconds of her talking, she's just talking over a picture of her and her brother.

And then it switches to another picture of her and her brother.

And then it goes to her talking, but I think they chose a moment where like she sounds better.

So maybe they're trying to make it work, but I just

it's very upsetting.

No, Hayden Panettier is

like, in terms of my age, like she was an important person in my life growing up.

Like, when I think of her breadth of work, like Raising Helen, Nashville,

bring it on.

But I'm talking about like her child star work because she was a child star, and I think that this is sort of a cautionary tale for child stars.

She's

like an example of how it can go poorly, and

she's had a lot of like bad public moments in the last like decade or so.

And I just really,

she means a lot to me because her work sort of raised her work raised me.

And I love her.

And I feel so sad.

And I think that this is really the

worst way that

fame can go, child star fame can end up.

And I just, I feel an overwhelming sense of sadness.

And I think a lot of people do.

That's why people were so fiercely defensive of her in the comments because you don't see that a lot, you know, people rallying for a celebrity.

But it was so exploitative, exploitative.

Is that the right?

Yeah, exploitative.

Yeah.

That it was heartbreaking.

Especially because I love her.

Love her so much.

She is such a queen.

And she literally worked so hard as a kid for us.

Yeah.

Rooting for her.

Constantly.

Constantly.

And just, I hope she can find her way through.

And like, who is managing and who's your publicist?

Like, because those aren't people, everyone should be fired.

Anybody who let you sit down for this interview, an assistant, well, an assistant can't like tell you what to do.

A manager, an agent, anyone, a publicist, anyone who had anything to do with this, shame on you.

Yeah.

Ugh, I'm sick.

Yeah.

Are you ready for our next story?

Yeah.

A curious little story.

Looking forward to your thoughts.

Okay.

Oprah Winfrey bought back the rights to an Apple documentary about her to stop its release.

Oprah Winfrey paid a fortune to Apple TV Chiefs to buy back the rights to a documentary about her life.

Apple Apple announced that Apple announced with great fanfare in 2021 that Oscar Wilning filmmaker Kevin McDonald would be directing the documentary about Oprah.

However, sources tell page six that the filmmaker who teamed up with Winfrey's longtime producer on the project had clashed with Oprah after he finished the film and it's been on hold ever since.

So a well-placed Hollywood source told page six, Kevin made the film, but Oprah didn't like it and he refused to change it and Oprah has paid back her fee to Apple.

A spokesperson for Oprah, who ended her content deal with Apple in September 2022, confirms to page six: quote, as the Apple TV deal was coming to an end, Ms.

Winfrey bought back the rights to her docuseries and has since decided to put the dock on hold.

Ms.

Winfrey believes that her personal filmmaker, Lisa, or the one that she works with, who I think is like Team Oprah, Lisa Ernst Palmer, and Kevin McDonald are incredibly talented filmmakers and is grateful for the time and energy they put into the project.

A source in Oprah's Campin 6 insists Kevin McDonald did not refuse to make edits that Winfrey simply decided, quote, it wasn't the right time to do a documentary documentary before making the unusual move of buying it back

i could see you know this going like everyone has their own truth so i could see it being nefarious i could see it she just doesn't want to release a documentary and she's oprah and like this money to her is like a hundred dollars to a normal person like i could see i don't know which is the right

what actually happened i don't know what the truth is but goals like to be able to you can't like you're oprah you are so wealthy you can't be shoved into doing anything you don't want to do and you have the privilege privilege of changing your mind too.

Cause what if she did just change her mind?

Like, everybody knows a lot about me.

What do I need to give them more?

You know, let me protect my peace a little bit.

You don't think that thought would come like before she sat for the documentary?

But I'm saying she changed her mind.

Right.

So using it's just as innocuous as that.

I don't know.

I'm saying it could have been, it could be something nefarious.

Like he insinuated, there's so many conspiracy theories about Oprah.

I feel like at the end of the day, she's just a queen who needs to be left alone.

And I feel like they're all untrue.

But when you get to that level of billionaire status and you hang out with the people that you do, the conspiracies come with the territory.

Like you just become a billionaire and people start thinking things about you.

It is what it is.

I believe that Oprah is a wholesome queen.

I really do.

I don't believe any of the shit that they're saying about my queen.

And I love this.

Like she's so real for that.

Like,

oh, I'm in a contract.

I don't want to be in a normal person.

Like it ruins their life.

Yeah.

They can't even imagine of paying the breach of contract fine.

Oprah, pennies on the dollar.

Okay.

I don't know what the truth is.

Okay, big Oprah.

Yeah, oh, I'm being paid by big Oprah.

No, ever since blame shame and the weight lost game like they couldn't make me ever hate oprah yeah i understand that i definitely think there's a little more to the story like that obviously the documentary is unflattering like now i need to know what's in there um but we never will because she has that sort of power and that's nice yeah it's not as like you know

perfect as there's

feel like it anymore of course there's probably something more going on here i actually think it is the perfect time for an oprah documentary like

she's 70 years old like there's a lot of story to tell.

She would go on a press, like, and she's still around to tell us more.

Like, it would be actually a great documentary.

Yeah.

And if it was the right time two years ago when she sat for it, like, it's certainly the right time now.

I just think, you know, maybe Kevin painted her in a light she didn't like.

Right.

What light?

And how nice that you are able to, even though I can't imagine Oprah getting herself into a scenario, she has a production company.

She has unlimited means.

So if she wanted a documentary made about herself, I can't imagine that it would end up unflattering.

Like that's so not believable.

Do you know what I mean?

You have all this power and you're not just like a random celebrity.

You're a billionaire from your productions.

Like you have a production company, hard puff.

So I think that the...

The documentary is probably like mostly like in partnership and flattering, but like this guy who came in as a filmmaker, at the end of the day, like it's his job to tell the story, right?

I think like documentarians take that really seriously.

Like they're not there.

It's not a puff piece.

They want to leave you with like a question.

No, they're going to like find what the story is.

They're like journalists in that sense.

That's probably how they see themselves.

So it's not like, oh, I'm just doing this as a favor to Oprah.

And like, it's going to be like shame, blame, and the weight lost game with Oprah.

Like, what do I find?

I'm going to tell that story.

So maybe, like, that's what was made.

That's not what she had in mind.

And it's a no-go.

It's just boss behavior.

And I just want to say, like, I have no idea what he could have found.

What could be?

Right.

And maybe it's just like her personality came off bad.

Maybe she looked mean.

Right.

That could be something as simple as that.

Or it could also be, you know, Epsom Island.

Right.

When you're a celebrity, like, and everybody's crawling up your ass, you do lose that, like, sense of self-awareness.

Like, am I coming off poorly?

And maybe she saw herself just in a personality level in a light that she didn't like.

Yeah.

And then it's just like she becomes America's sweetheart.

She's like the sweet older lady.

Yeah.

Well, that's actually a perfect segue to our next story.

What number, though?

Number four.

Like, couldn't be a better side.

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so i was talking about a sweet older lady yes her image was incongruous with who she really was which was a great segue into our next story first trailer for ellen degeneres' stand-up special is out so go ahead and see her new special i'll give you the highlights her new special called for your approval will premiere globally on netflix um on september 24th So in the trailer, here are the bits of things that she says.

She said, all right, well, let me catch you up on what's been going on with me since you saw me last.

I decided to take up gardening.

I got chickens.

Let me see what else I can tell you about that's been going on.

Oh, yeah, I got kicked out of show business.

And so it goes.

So she goes on to discuss being labeled, quote, the be kind girl that wasn't kind.

She said, here's the problem.

I'm a comedian who got a talk show and I ended the show every day by saying, be kind to one another.

Had I ended my show by saying go fuck yourselves, people would have been pleasantly surprised to find out I'm kind.

Yeah.

Funny.

But like, yeah, you did say be kind.

Every single day you told us to be kind while you weren't being kind.

Like, that's a problem.

Yep.

I, this is where being a comedian is so fabulous, right?

Because it gives you a, one, like a creative outlet, but two, like an opportunity to just like laugh with everyone instead of like being laughed at.

And so I don't know what the right way to come back from scandal is, but as as a comedian, I think this is a really good one.

Well, this is also not really a comeback as far as what she said.

Like this is a burn it all down show.

She said it's her last thing.

I do think she wants the last word because right now, what's the way it all ended was like Ellen was booted out of show business, not Hollywood, because like she doesn't need money.

She has all the friends.

She has no connections.

Like I'm sure she could even do like produce, like, but people didn't want to see her anymore.

So

everybody's going to want to see this.

I feel like whatever she has has to say, she's going to say it all.

And that we said when we were talking about the special to begin with, like someone who has nothing to lose is just like a very interesting person to hear from.

No, I'm sad on September 24th.

Yeah.

I'm actually really looking forward to this.

And I'm so curious what her sort of explanation is going to be.

Is it going to be like, everybody lied, I'm not.

Mean or yeah, I mean, everybody I worked with was stupid.

Sue me.

Like, cause you said it's a very burn it all down.

Last you'll ever hear from me.

So she doesn't have to back up anything that she's saying.

She can like kind of lean in yeah or be like is she gonna paint herself as a victim or yeah like that was me and you know eat my ass i think not paint herself as a victim but but definitely paint it as it like being overblown and like she was just having like normal human behaviors and reactions um

while also trying to put forth a positive message i don't know i think she's gonna try and like make us feel stupid No, I'm like really excited to see what she does with this because it it definitely has the potential to be his like iconic and historic.

If this is really your last way of going out, everybody everybody thinks all these things about you are you gonna come out and be like a weenie like no they were mean to me or are you gonna be like yeah that was me suck it yeah like it reminds me of erica jane's tagline from beverly hills i have nothing to hide and nothing to lose and that makes me dangerous yeah like a scary thing right yeah ellen will never run out of money she is you know generationally wealthy for life

she has unlimited connections within Hollywood.

People within Hollywood still like her.

So what?

She can't, you know, sell tickets to a show.

She doesn't want to anymore.

So, if she did want to just burn it all down, that's iconic.

Yeah, then there's another quote from the trailer that's giving just like a little bit, um,

I don't know, you'll judge it for yourself.

She said, um, she talks about how most women aren't raised with confidence.

She says, quote, we're too self-conscious, which is why you rarely see a woman playing the air guitar.

She also shares that rather than going into show business for money, she said it was about healing my childhood wounds.

I thought if I can make people happy, then they'll like me.

And if they like me, I'll feel good about myself.

And all I can say about that is thank God for the money.

So like, you know, a little bit like, I don't know about like,

if I want to hear that.

Yeah, it's like, don't bring women in.

Like, women is like this, I want to be like the childhood trauma of not being liked.

It's like, I'm sorry.

That's no excuse.

You're literally sad.

I'm no longer sad.

I'm getting up.

Yeah.

And one of my actual least favorite things is when people in their grown adult lives like act poorly and blame it on the way that they grew up.

And it's like we all have things from our childhood and you being an animal and a bitch because of it, like is not an excuse.

You get to a certain point where it is on you to be fair to heal from that.

And she's literally I don't think that's what she's, I don't think that's what she's doing there.

I think she's just like telling the story of like how she got into show business.

I think she's trying to relate to women on like a level of like confidence and this and that, but like, Ellen, you're not relatable.

Like just oh.

And by the way, that's what her last special was all about.

I think it was literally called relatable.

She's like, oh, when I get off my gold toilet in the the morning and my servant brings me my coffee, it was funny.

Like, it was how she's so wealthy, she's lost all relatability.

So to now, her next special try to attempt to be relatable.

It's like, yikes.

And who knows like which part of this trailer, like, she'll really dig in on.

Right.

Maybe we'll hear funny anecdotes about her chickens.

I hope not.

I do hope it's more of the kicked out of show business stuff.

But maybe someone at, you know, iMovie thought that this would be a good part of the trailer.

Yeah.

We need to see it.

Talk about women struggling with self-confidence.

Like, I love hearing about women and how we can get confidence from just like other people.

Yeah, for sure.

Like, from you.

I love hearing about confidence from you.

I would actually take confidence tips from you.

That's so sweet.

If anybody's going to give ever tangible tips on confidence, just like

be delusional.

Fake it till you make it.

No one can tell me shit, like in my head, but in my head, I'm like, oh my God, I'm like the biggest loser on the planet, you know?

But I'm so sickeningly gorgeous.

Yeah.

So that's September 24th, Ellen.

A little more.

I'm sad.

Oh, speaking of big things coming out, you know at midnight tonight, Katy Perry's album drops.

Oh my gosh, I will be listening in the morning.

As will I.

I'll listen while I get ready tomorrow morning and I'll let you know my initial thoughts.

Even though I know none of you are asking for them.

Not a single one.

But I just know like it's something that we need to do.

We're on a journey and we need to see it through.

Yep.

Our fifth and final story is a little more content news because SNL has announced their season 50 hosts and musical guests.

So they have put out the next five weeks of hosts and musical guests.

And if you care about these things, here they are.

September 28th, Gene Smart and Jelly Roll.

I saw the funniest tweet.

It was like, please don't make Jean Smart say,

once again, jelly roll.

However, she will have to.

I love that, by the way, I love her.

Like, she's,

SNL is not funny.

And, like, it's really, it's bad, but sometimes a host can transcend that.

Like, and she's really talented.

Yeah, she has a chance to transcend for sure.

Yeah.

SNL is just like really, really bad.

So here's a bunch of things.

It's such a shame because this lineup is so premium.

Yeah, if it were a good show, like, wow, I'm sat on a Saturday night.

I know.

But no, I might not, I probably won't watch any of these.

maybe some clips if you guys really insist.

October 5th, Nate Bargatesy and Coldplay.

That's actually really interesting because it was such a big deal when Nate Bargates was on last season because he was like kind of an internet comedian podcaster.

And it obviously did well.

Yeah.

Because he's back the next season.

October 12th, Ariana Grande hosting Stevie Nick's musical guest.

That's definitely confusing.

I actually would have thought the opposite.

I think Ari should be doing both.

Like I think obviously a few people who can do both, and Ari's one of them.

If you're a musician who's hosting and you're not performing, it's definitely like

raises a red flag.

And I feel like it goes back to what I was saying earlier in the week, where it's like, she's on her Lady Gaga shit.

She's kind of leaving the pop world behind.

Sorry, I'm in an Oscar-winning movie.

Like, don't talk to me.

It hasn't even come out, and it's won an Oscar.

I'm an actress now.

I won't be singing.

Don't get it twisted.

Correct.

Even though I'm singing in the movie that I'm unless you want me to sing in the movie.

Yeah, she is singing in the movie.

Right.

Wish she was doing both because that's such a flex.

No, it would have been amazing if Ariana Grande was the host and then Ariana Grande and Cynthia Revo were the musical guests.

That would have been great promo for the movie.

Oh, I guess by the time October 12th, like we're getting close to Wicked coming out, but it's still a little early.

Yeah.

October 19th, Michael Keaton and Billie Eilish.

Must have been.

This is going to be super fun

and cheery.

November 2nd, John Mulaney and Chapel Roan.

So there it is, Chapel Roans SNL debut.

That'll be a big night for Miss Chap.

That will officially, I think, mark

her stardom.

Like, obviously, she's huge, yada, yada, but SNL is.

And I want to say, it really is such a shame that it's such a piece of shit show because the booker at SNL like works overtime.

The booker is, always crushes it.

Like premium talent for what?

Right.

Right.

It's honestly, it's Nina Katz.

If you know, you know.

It's what?

Nina Katz.

Is that from Texan City?

Yes.

When Kyrie finds out that Aiden has a new girlfriend, it's Nina Katz.

And then she makes the face,

and she's the booker for SNL.

Got it.

Got it.

Well, no, the booker is booking.

The booker is booking.

Honestly, it's like Colin Joe's.

I guess we've got to put it on because the show is bad.

And he's like takes a big credit for the show.

Yeah.

And everyone else, too.

But like, I don't know.

I just feel like he makes it like a really big stink that he like writes the show.

They did a big chop.

They got rid of a bunch of people, which I think was the right choice.

They onboarded a bunch of new people in the last couple of years and they never took off.

Like, obviously, Chloe Feynman was new and instantly became Boen Yang was new and instantly became, it takes like a year or two for you to take off.

But then if you don't, you're just kind of like, I know, but sometimes they just need people, but they do need people who like can play a lot of characters that like not everyone's going to be Kate McKinnon, but like

a little property up too.

Yeah, but they brought on three new people.

So that'll be interesting to see.

I feel like the most recent person person who like joined and had a moment is Sarah Sherman.

She was in that Bot Mitzvah movie with Adam Sandler.

I actually like her.

I don't think you do, but yeah.

Oh, fuck.

I don't think you do.

I don't.

I don't think so.

I'll have to double check, but shit.

It's giving, I don't think you do.

Shit.

Yeah, I'm sorry.

All right.

No, it's okay.

It happens the best.

It happens every day.

It does.

Was that the fifth story?

It was the fifth story.

Oh my God, what are you going to have for lunch?

Oh, such a great question.

I have some fresh sourdough, like, not to brag, brag, so I'll probably just have a slice, maybe a hard-boiled egg on top.

That actually was like extremely braggadocious, Sophia.

Well, I think you'll be having fresh sourdough soon.

I think fresh sourdough is in the future.

Oh, you never gave me your starter.

No, I just meant like when I come see you, I'm going to bring you a loaf.

Oh, you are?

Bring me some starter, too.

I'll bring you some starter.

Like, whatever.

I want to have it just in case.

I'm sorry, like you shouldn't make Ben get into it.

I don't think it's for you.

Like, I think it's for Ben.

Like, Ben is the, he's in the kitchen.

So he's the one who needs to be reminded to feed it every day.

Yeah.

I think it's for Ben.

And like, it would be great for Slender September and all of his content.

And like everything pairs nicely with a fresh slice of bread.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, I can't believe you're bringing me a loaf.

I'm so excited.

I was like, what is she talking about?

I'm going to get into it.

Sounds like a threat.

No, it was a threat that I'm going to bring you, Sam.

Of course, Turkey.

God, yes.

So you're going to throw a loaf and Charlie in your suitcase and come to see me.

Yeah.

Maybe a couple other things too ben's airpods that i accidentally took from the hamptons that he now has in loss mode and so they ding in my house 24 7 because he was looking for them tell him to unlock i will and i sent zach to the post office to send them back and i guess zach like texted ben like where do you want me to send them and ben was like oh no jackie should just bring them when she comes so now they'll be dinging all the way there he's right for that because like who wants to send air pods they'll be dinging ups like he's gonna

send the driver mad but by the time they get here like someone will have smashed it because it's like pissing them off.

Yeah, so if you do see him, if I remember first, I'll say it to him, but I forget.

If you see him, like tell him to turn off lost mode, they are found.

I'm right on top of that, Rose.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you guys so much for listening to today's toast.

Hope you enjoyed every minute of this latter half episode.

Thank you, Sir.

Oh, you didn't ask, but I'm having Lenwich for lunch.

Oh, well, maybe you should invite Dana because you know that's her favorite spot.

Lenwich, like the salad girlies, like in New York, I feel like salad culture is is so crazy.

Like

chopped and just salad.

Actually, really like just salad.

And sweet green.

Sweet green, sweet green.

And like these bitches are sleeping on Lenwich.

It's because it's the dumbest name.

You would never say, oh, Lenwich, let me go get a fresh chopped salad from there.

But you're not living.

Well, Dana says they also have the best tuna salad in town.

So oh, I'll get some for Ben and we'll decide.

Don't tell him it's from Lenwich.

Like, say, oh my God, this new deli opened up by us, like a pepperoni.

Brine taste town.

Say, I saw like a TikTok.

This place went viral.

Like, you have to try the tuna.

Do it.

Oh, I love that.

Do it.

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