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Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to the toast and happy Thursday.

That's right.

I don't know if you can hear it in my voice.

It's sort of like the skinny nature.

I am obsessed.

It's Thursday.

Celebrate good times.

Come on.

Let's celebrate.

It's Thursday.

Okay, wait.

Like, what did we learn last week?

We learned that, like, kind of the joy of Thursday greater than the joy of Friday.

Like, let's just be here, you know?

Be present, be in the moment.

It's all ahead of us.

What do you have planned this weekend?

Oh, you have Ben's birthday celebration, even though his birthday was yesterday.

It's giving time to the day.

It's giving Margaret Washstreak birthday week when she was 19 and she was like a nightmare.

It's giving

21-year-old nightmare.

Ben is like actually really nuts about his birthday.

I know.

With the toast diversary party happening right around Ben's birthday, like he was on my dick for weeks being like, when's the toast diversary party?

I need to plan my birthday.

I'm like, okay, calm down.

Not even that.

It was more so like, don't be planning toast diversary on my birthday weekend.

It's like.

Your birthday's on a Wednesday.

I'm sorry to this man.

And as a man, that's all you get.

You get the Wednesday and that's it.

But he took Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and he'll take Saturday for the hangout.

He didn't take Thursday.

He's actually gone all day today with your husband on a work trip.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They are Cyan R.

You know what?

I needed a break from like all birthdays, like for me, and I don't know if this is going to, like, maybe I'm exposing myself, like being a little too honest, but like, that's what I do here on this podcast.

And I would love to know if anyone can relate.

Like

other people's birthdays are.

Like people that I'm very close to, like friends and family, like family, honestly, just family.

Are very.

Because because you're only close literally

but i would only say this about like people just kidding we have a couple great friends shout out to our great friends agreed we have like seven and i love them all

they're like family they are i would trust them with my life

of course well tinks is family um what was i saying oh yeah so this is gonna be like a really honest thing of me to say but when it's other people's birthdays like you honestly or like we're together or ben and like i spend the day say with your chest spend the day with someone on their birthday like i find it really difficult to get through like really really, it's some of my like least enjoyable moments.

Okay, so for say it's my birthday and we like have a great brunch.

Say we go to like Bergdorfs and we do shopping and it's like a great birthday.

Like you're having trouble.

Yeah.

And I find like, because you have to like act different towards people on their birthday.

Like you have to be like, so they,

you know, like,

and

it's, you have a hard time being towards me.

Honestly, like, the more I talk about it, I'm really not talking about you.

Maybe I'm like exclusively talking about Ben.

I feel like you are because also you have to be like

about things that like you don't want to be doing, at least when it's me or one of the sisters.

Like, we all have the same interest, so it's like a fun, swirly day.

It doesn't sound like yesterday was swirly.

Actually, yesterday was really nice.

Me and Ben had a fabulous lunch at Chipriani, it was really good.

And then I took him shopping because, you know, I was like, you know what, I could buy you a birthday present or you could just pick it out.

Like, let's save ourselves time and energy of making returns.

He got a fabulous product coat, like being a diva in the store.

Then he got a massage.

I sent him for a 90-minute massage so I could relax.

And then he came home.

Oh,

I did make him do like one husband-like thing because Ben has been complaining about the way like our cabinet is organized with our spices.

And I'm like, all right, I have to do the influencer thing.

I have to get the jars with the stickers.

And so we did it.

Do you use my affiliate link for my spices?

I didn't get what you got.

I got a separate apparatus because your spices are in a pull-out door pantry thing.

Mine are in a cabinet.

I got a rack.

And

I made Ben spend like 45 minutes like unboxing, filling up the,

he wanted to kill me, filling up the spices with the funnel, sticking the stickers on the top.

If they didn't have the right label, writing it in with the white marker.

We did it.

And, you know, it being two people, it really took 20 minutes, but I know he wanted to kill me.

That was like the one husband-like thing I made him do on his birthday.

Even though it's ultimately for him, because who uses the spices?

Exactly.

That's what I said.

But it's nice looking.

That's for you because he would use spices, you know, left out on exactly

cutting them up.

Credit cards.

And then we went to dinner with his family at this new kind of hotspot kosher restaurant.

It really was a hotspot.

I thought I was going to be the only celebrity there.

I'm telling you, I meant like by attracting celebrity phase.

I told you, like, I've just been like seeing celebrities a lot, you know?

Yes.

And I swear aside from that.

I certainly wasn't expecting to see one at Malka, the new kosher restaurant on the upper west side, but

you know, she's an ally through and through, Megan McCain.

She was eating at the kosher facility.

I wrote in the chat.

Oh, my goodness.

You did, but I was so, I had so much going on yesterday.

I barely got to enjoy the chat.

Oh, and that's devastating.

And I saw what you wrote, but in like a mirage, I never got to come back because I was like, but she also gave me like a good piece of gossip and I put it in there too.

Yeah, yeah.

No, I saw, and I was like, oh, I need to like save this conversation.

Like, I'll check back in with it later.

And I completely forgot.

It feels like a dream, but that's exciting.

It was exciting, especially because like I have like, we have like texted and DM'd for years like about initially about Bravo.

And then when we got canceled, she was like one of the few people who publicly were like, everybody lay the fuck off these girls please and I like never forgot and I always just like I have a really warm disposition towards her and then recently she's been such an outspoken advocate for Israel and the Jewish people so she's just like in my book she's golden I love her she's family she's like family like tanks

except I've weirdly never met her

and so I like I felt weird being like Megan And like, I was like, thank God she recognized me because we really haven't.

And she did recognize, don't start, bitch.

Claudia, yeah, I know that I wasn't going to say anything like that.

Like, I feel like.

I can feel your energy.

I can feel your energy.

Oh, my God.

Then your radar is so off because, like, I know how

digitally close you are with me.

Okay, no, I thought you were going to make a joke.

I was pushing off your joke.

What was my joke going to be?

Did she recognize you?

No.

Oh, you did.

Good.

Go ahead.

Because she did.

No, like your relationship with Megan McCain is like literal sisterhood compared to your relationship with me.

You know what?

I don't want to get into this because you're just going to, you're going to, one of us is going to end apart.

And I have a feeling it's going to win.

Fine, fine.

But like, all I want to say is just stop assuming the worst in me.

That's what I want to say.

Valid.

I won't, but I, but it's a valid feeling.

Thank you.

So yeah, it was just kind of fabulous.

And then the day ended, and I was like, TG, because it was like a laundry list of things I needed to yell at Ben at, but I couldn't do it on his birthday.

So this morning, he woke up super early, went on his

flight to his work trip.

And while he was on the plane and I woke up, I sent him like a litany of things I was upset with him about yesterday.

And they were, they were all so valid.

They were.

Can you tell us?

I'll tell.

No.

Give us an example of the kinds of things that no, I don't want to.

I can't because I'll tell you why after.

It's too personal.

No, no, no, no, no.

It's not.

Okay, you know what?

I'll just text it to you.

And I'll try to understand why.

Like, I don't need you to like bear all about your relationship, but sometimes there are like universal things that we could just all relate to.

Yeah.

That are like healthy issues to have with your partner.

You know, like the time he almost missed the pharmacy and getting my microphone medication.

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah, you can't choose.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay.

Oh, yeah.

And that would, that was, yeah, okay.

That would elicit a strongly worded text from me as well.

Of course.

So, yeah, Ben cheated on me.

No kidding.

So thank God that's over.

And I actually, even though Ben is being a diva about his birthday this weekend, it's so nice to have like fun things planned for the weekend.

So Friday night, Ben is doing, he's decided to celebrate his birthday with his friends over like a really fun lit Shabbat dinner, which actually sounds so fun and not like crazy like four in the morning, you know?

And we're also going to Olivia Rodrigo.

So it'll be a nice weekend.

Oh, that's nice.

I have some fun weekend plans that I'll share on.

Are they with Mary Orton?

No, I'm seeing Mary Orton in two weeks.

Good.

I hope you guys have the best time.

I hope you guys drink awesome shooters and have an awesome time and just soak up each other's awesomeness.

I just want to say, speaking of Mary Orton,

When Claudia's in Israel, I'm doing co-hosts for the toast and I shared on the Patreon some of the co-hosts that that I'm having.

And I do want to keep it like fuzzy, you know?

But not only do I have really exciting co-hosts, three things are exciting.

Exciting co-hosts.

One, actually, no sisters that week.

I think it's good.

Sisters are like last resort.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, it's a good, it's a sign of good things, but like I miss my sisters.

And three, I actually have two people who will be shooting with me in my studio.

That is so amazing.

I've never had a guest in studio with me.

It's toast HQ SoFlow a dish, and it's it's fabulous.

Yeah.

I got to get my AC working in here.

And you got to clean up.

Okay.

I will.

No, it's just a pile of merch right there that the bins I got on Amazon were too small to accommodate.

Of course they were.

Also, so you're doing a week of co-hosts when I'm in Israel, which is so fab because I feel like you haven't done co-hosts in so long and I'm excited to be a consumer of that content.

But then a few weeks later, I've decided I am going to LA for the 5K.

And then I'm like, as long as I'm traveling six hours, I might as well make a meal of it.

So I'm going to do five episodes in LA.

Of course, I have tinks booked.

That was like the first call I made.

But I kind of wanted to go out of our usual

circle of people.

Out of network.

Out of network, especially because it happens to be a big week in LA that week.

It's the 5K.

It's the Netflix is a joke festival.

So I've been in contact with Tim Dylan.

He said he will do it, but like, we'll see if it actually comes to fruition.

I've also been in contact with Brooke Schofield.

Now, I feel like the Toasters know who Brooke Schofield is, and I, for one, am obsessed.

And I'm sensing a pattern because the last time I was in LA, I got connected on text with Tana Mojo and I was like, Tana, will you please do the toast?

And she was like, oh my God, yes.

Literally ghosted me.

I was put on text with Brooke Schofield and I was like, Brooke, I love you.

I don't know if you know how I am, but like, I love the toast.

I love you.

The toasters love you.

Like, it's a really great podcast.

You'll love it.

Like, please.

And she was like, of course.

I was like, okay, let me know who to reach out to.

Ghost.

So I'm really rooting for Brooke Schofield to come on the toast.

another out of network grooly

but i just want to say tinks is technically out of network since she's never done it before

but i feel i feel like tinks's content is really similar to ours a lot of our followers are tinks's followers especially since we became sisterhood um screw sisterhood so yeah yeah no she's she'll be in network soon enough but it's an inaugural thing so it's kind of it's fresh and different and it's new for the network and ben is traveling with me so just know like if ben does an episode with me it's because i couldn't find anyone else

Of the caliber that you're looking for.

Of the cast.

Yeah, yeah, of course.

Of people who I want new people.

Someone who's ever been on.

Like, I want to shake it up Chicago.

Shake it up Los Angeles.

You could do someone who's been on.

That's amazing.

There are some really good ones.

Of course, no, we've had, and I don't.

In network.

In network, out of network.

We had some fabulous, fabulous people on this show.

And I also feel like I barely.

I barely broached my network.

Like I was kind of like brimming with more people to ask.

So if you're like listening, like, oh, why didn't you ask?

Like, my text was on its way to you, but then things got kind of like confirmed really quickly.

There's also like a 4% chance I just like extend my trip in Israel.

So good to have people on the backup, you know?

Oh, for sure.

Okay, cool.

You think so?

I don't know.

I just feel like I'm gonna get there and like, it's, it won't be enough time.

And it's gonna, and I'll feel like overwhelmed with like emotion and motivation to keep going and volunteering, you know?

Yeah, and farming.

They need farmhands.

Do they?

For real.

Yeah.

Because the farms were attacked.

They were like burned down.

A lot of the farm workers were murdered or they're off fighting wars.

And they like totally decimated the farms.

It was like an intentional thing to like get back the Israeli economy.

I think like their production is down 30%.

Oh my God.

Since October 7th, they burned fields.

They shot and like disconnected the feeds for like chickens and stuff.

So they didn't even kill the chickens.

But in the aftermath of October 7th, they didn't realize that those machines were broken.

Like thousands of chickens died of starvation.

No one there to pick the crops.

I need to get a beer at a farm question mark.

I'm on it.

Yeah.

I'm going to save the Israeli agricultural system.

Turning.

I need to like get clothes.

Like not like fabulous clothes, obviously.

Like I need like work clothes.

I was thinking about it.

I need like work boots.

yeah you need work boots and then i think just like athletes like athleisure i know i need to go head over to aloe lululemon etc

yeah yeah um so we just have like a very exciting month coming up at the toast we're about to celebrate our six-year toast anniversary which maybe we'll do a patreon episode like at a glance looking back on the years things of that nature maybe take questions about like favorite moments that's a good episode That is a good episode.

Also, speaking of an anniversary,

today is a one year, a year year ago today.

I got my sirclage, my first.

You're lying.

I know.

It's really sort of like

spin top of mind for me.

Chilling.

I've been thinking about it a lot.

I feel like it's like, I'm thinking about it even, like, I don't know, processing it more now than I even did then.

We couldn't really take like stock of what was going on in the moment.

No.

Because you had to keep moving.

Once, oh, that day in your bed, that was one of the worst days of my life.

And it wasn't even about me.

Like, oh my God, that was horrible.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So that was today, the flight.

Today was the day where, like, we couldn't, we hadn't recorded the episode yet.

You were like, I have a scan in the morning.

I'll be right back.

I'm seeing this new doctor who's just going to like look at it and tell me I need a surclage.

No, no.

Not a surclage.

Yeah, no, the second doctor I was going to see so that they could look at me, like confirm I needed a surclage, like Dr.

Fox had been saying over the phone.

And then I would get the procedure down here.

But they looked at me and they were even like more pessimistic than the doctor the day before.

And they were just kind of like, go home and wait.

And then Dr.

Fox was like, if you come up tonight, we can do it here.

So you got the searchlage tonight.

We were on the plane today?

We were on the plane today.

Oh.

A year ago today, we were on a PJ.

Pittsville, USA, population searchlage.

Serious Pittsville, but two pivots, two positive pivots.

Charlicho.

Dr.

Fox.

Oh, of course.

No, but I'm just like pivoting the conversation because Dr.

Fox, who's the goat, you guys, he's a household name here at the Toast.

He actually has a book coming out with Emily Oster.

And I think anyone who's been pregnant or given birth, like, knows Emily Oster because she is the girl, the go-to.

She wrote Expecting Better, which was the one pregnancy book I did read.

And then she wrote Crib Sheets, which is about like baby stuff, like, you know, baby book.

And Dr.

Fox co-authored her next book with her.

Okay, Dr.

Fox.

Yeah.

Okay.

Dr.

Fox, like, being celebrity.

No, I got invited to the lunch party.

I was like, oh, okay, lunch party in this like fat, fancy townhouse.

I'm like, okay.

Okay.

And the next book is about like pregnancy after a complicated pregnancy.

So that's literally you.

Yeah.

That's what he said when he was telling me about it.

Like it's literally me.

So check it out.

It comes out in May.

Check it out.

What's it called?

I'm going to no, you do redheads.

I'll find it because it's in my email.

Speaking of books, The Redheads dropped today.

So big.

And I loved the book.

It's called The Unexpected.

Navigating Pregnancy During and After Complications.

I like that.

Yeah.

So if that is in your wheelhouse, definitely pre-order it.

But speaking of books, the Redheads dropped today.

I loved the book so much.

I need you to read it because I think you would really like it.

Okay, let me.

I keep telling you.

I know by the way,

I haven't read a book.

It's crazy.

I'm like so off reading.

No, Claudia, I only read one book a month now and it's for the Redheads.

That's why I'm also grateful for the Redheads because I wouldn't be reading right now.

I've literally in the last couple of months only read my

book club book and my next book club book is Demon Copperhead.

So I'm just kind of read this first.

It'll take you two to three days.

I'm just like kind of preparing.

But by the way, the the last book I read, I believe, was

Your Last Book Club.

Yeah, First Lie Wins.

And then before that, did you hear about Kitty Carr?

And then before that, One Dumb Romance Book and then a book club.

No, my God, I've only read six books this year.

No, I know, but it's just, I guess, not reading high time reading season right now.

But read this, it'll get you like back.

It'll get the bug.

And you know, the author wrote Tell Me Lies, which we love.

So it was so good.

The episode was weirdly, we were

like, it was polarizing.

Yeah, like two really liked it, two, not as much.

I love when the girlies fight.

Yeah, because that way also the listeners, everyone's represented, whether you liked the book or not.

There's something for you in the episode.

And like, as I said, Redhead's Revolution, like the girlies got ring lights.

Like things are happening.

The girlies got ring lights.

We got ring lights because we're going to be making clips.

You know me, like clips mean everything to me.

I'm so excited.

I feel like that actually will turn a lot of people into listeners.

Not enough people know about the Redheads.

Like in this, you know, the people who listen to the toast, if they read, I feel like they join the Redheads.

If they don't read, there's really no hope for them in terms of becoming a Redhead.

But I feel like not enough people know that there is this like monthly book club podcast out there that's like really just doing what nobody else is doing.

Yeah, and this book, this would actually be a great time to become a redhead because like the content is great, but also this book, I really think most people will like it.

It's like a fun, girly book with also a bit of intrigue.

And then the next book is a snitch's choice, which is always like a fun, easy read.

We're reading when we were enemies, classic snitch type.

Maybe I'll do two Breadheads books in a row.

Also, major reading update for me is I bought this Kindle Oasis off of a toaster.

Actually, she was like, I was like, I'll pay you.

Or like, do you want just a shit ton of merch?

And she went for the merch.

And I covered the shipping.

So like everybody won.

And then literally, I got it a few days ago.

And then yesterday, Amazon reached out and be like, you know, we're discontinuing the Oasis.

Do you want one?

We have one laying around the office.

So I will have two, but.

like confirmation you need it for when you lose the old one exactly but uh what do you think's next for kindle like what do you think is the next kindle

Like, Oasis was their big new thing, and they're discontinuing it.

For reasons unknown, it's literally the most popular one.

I tell everyone about it.

It's the best one.

So I think in size, it will be similar to that in paper white.

But I guess when I'm looking at it, like the

black stripe on the right with the buttons, like, why is it so wide?

It doesn't need to be that wide.

Yes, you do.

You need a place to rest, like your big ass hand.

I don't know.

I think they're just like redesigning it.

I think it could be more ergonomic.

But I don't know why they're discontinuing this one without launching the new one.

Like there needs, there needs to be overlap.

Like there's going to be a drought for a while.

And I'm sorry, the paperweight, it doesn't cut it for me.

And do you think there's a correlation between Kindle discontinuing like their best product and Jeff Bezos being number three, one billion behind Elon?

I think there's definitely a correlation between.

the Kindle being discontinued and Jeff Bezos sort of

like being very lax in his work ethic.

You know, he's happy, he's engaged, he's traveling, he had this big 60th birthday.

I feel like he hasn't been attending meetings.

He's kind of like, you know, some men, not a midlife crisis, but you know, he's acting like a teenager again because he's in love.

Like, I think that's reflective in, you know, the lack of product launches from Amazon.

I do.

Interesting.

Do you think Jeff Bezos reads on a Kindle?

No, I think he reads when he's drunk, just a little drunk, and he reads the newspaper.

Yeah.

That's what I think.

I think Lauren Sanchez reads on a Kindle.

For sure.

Smut.

For sure.

Like, I've never been more certain of anything in my life.

Yeah, she should become a redhead.

I love Thursday shows because, you know, yesterday we were busy.

We had Vanderpump Rules.

We had deer toasters, and we had the stories.

So, you know, it was like, you know, a chug-along to make sure we hit all of the things we needed to hit.

And then Fridays, we have Weenie and Queenie of the Week.

You know, last Friday we had Employee of the Month.

And Thursdays just have become kind of a respite for me.

Like very relaxing, girly-girl chit-chat.

They can be as long or as short, you know yeah and the stories i think reflect that oh they have a relaxed sort of karmic energy to them they have a there's not much going on sort of energy to them love

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Was that sarcastic?

No, no, no.

I happened to like randomly know about Chance the Rapper.

Like before he got famous, he like had this woman and he just loved her and he stayed loyal no matter how famous he got.

And there was a point in time where he was like the biggest thing.

All night, I'm a jiggle, all night, I'm a jigger, all night, I'm a jigging, eh?

And like he stood by, stand by your man, like really stood by her.

And they were, I felt so

strong.

Yeah, well, she posted to Instagram saying after a period of separation, the two of us have arrived at the decision to part ways.

We came to this decision amicably and with gratitude for the time we spent together, God has blessed us with two beautiful daughters who we will continue to raise together.

We kindly ask for privacy and respect as we navigate this transition.

You know, you hate to see it.

You hate to see like a pre-fame relationship bite the dust.

You know, of course it reminds me in a different way.

Robert Robert Herjive.

Yes, now Robert Herjivek, I felt, had bad intentions.

I don't feel as though Chance the Rapper does, but it just does remind me.

I hate to see, you know, a man gets successful and then leave.

No, I don't think he's leaving her like they had kids and he's not even at the height of his fame anymore.

It's different.

It's different, of course.

But I do love when a woman does it.

You know, Casey Musgraves and her first marriage.

Not Rustin Kelly, the other guy.

I was thinking about him the other day, actually.

Were they married?

Engaged?

No, they, no, you're right.

They weren't married, but they were in like a seven-year relationship.

Like, really.

I they were together longer than she was with her husband.

Yeah, when she got famous, if you watch like some of her like follow your error music videos, he's in, he was in her band.

Like he was in her band.

He's in every music video.

He's like kind of the short one with like the buzz cut.

And I kind of loved, I'm not going to lie, I loved that era for Casey Musgraves.

I did.

But when she left him, I was like, this is right.

You know, this, that feels right.

That feels right.

And then when she was with Weston Kelly, I said, that doesn't feel right.

You think?

I didn't love it.

Yeah, because it was that, it was your least favorite trope of two people who do the same thing and the woman is far more successful than the man and it can never work.

And actually, I was thinking recently about that generation of young women in country who all married men in the industry who were less successful than them and how they all fared.

And for a while, I was trying to remember, did Marin Morris get divorced?

Yes, right?

I think so.

Yeah, she was the last one.

First, it was Casey Musgraves, then it was Kelsey Bellarini.

They both were married to country stars whose names, if you're not into country, you've probably never heard.

And then

Marin Morrison, Ryan Hurd, and he's a very successful songwriter.

But when it comes to like fame and people buying his own music that he released, he wasn't nearly as popular as Marin.

So yeah, was that all three?

They're all gone?

Yeah.

That was a crazy time.

So can it work?

No, not in country.

Does it work anywhere else?

Let's think.

Two people who do the same thing where the woman is like much more successful.

Like a big actress and a small actor.

I feel like a lot of the female actresses, they're really smart.

They marry people in the industry, but who aren't front-facing the

directors, agents, producers.

No, I feel like two actors marry each other is a nightmare, especially like huge.

Okay, John Krasinski and Emily Blunt.

They're on the same level.

I would say maybe she.

They defy the odds.

They defy the odds.

I would say maybe she's a little bit more famous than him.

I think they go back and forth.

Yeah.

It depends what just came out.

They're so even.

She's more Oscar and he's more commercial.

Like he does Ryan Jack.

Jack Ryan, you know?

Yeah.

Nobody watches that show.

No, they're so evenly matched.

Everybody watches that show, but he wins no awards.

It has to be a perfect match in terms of success.

Yeah, I mean, I added to the list of things I'm always bringing up, like in terms of success, perfect match, but different industries and why it works.

Keith Irban, Nicole Kidman.

Yeah.

But seriously, both at the top of their industry.

So again, same exact level of success, more or less.

Yes, and I think it works even better because they're not in the same industry.

There's really no overlap.

Yeah, but there are a lot of country couples, big and big.

Yeah, it's like that's a thing.

Faith and Tim, Trisha and Garth.

Garth.

Tammy and George.

George and Tammy, even though they were together for five minutes, according to the show.

Who else?

I love this game.

Well, and also, what I don't believe Chance's wife was in the industry at all.

So.

No.

Oh, yeah.

We've gotten completely off subject.

Yeah, but it's hard to not get into that line of discussion because it's one of my favorite things to talk about.

Yeah, so I guess we could...

It feels too soon.

I'm not going to do it.

Oh, you know who's like kind of a, no, it's too soon.

You know who's kind of a couple

who, well, of course, Beyonce and Jay-Z, but they're kind of not in the same industry anymore.

And who would you say is more famous?

Like, I think it just depends on your POV because for me, it's Beyonce.

Yeah.

You know who's another couple who's like kind of equally matched?

They're not like the most famous, though, but they're really William H.

Macy and Felicity Huffman.

Like, are they still together?

I think so, even though he let her go to prison.

I feel like they're not.

I don't know why I feel that because also he went to the homeless, not toothless gala on Real House Member News.

Yeah, they kept saying like, William H.

Macy's going to be here.

And it's like, wouldn't he be with his wife?

That's true.

Oh, wait, here.

I just googled Ashton Amila.

He's more famous, I think.

But it works.

Yeah.

Oh, Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively.

Yeah, classic.

Classic.

But there's really not like a ton on this list.

Ben Affleck and J-Lo.

It's too soon to tell.

Oh, I think like in OG, Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson.

Yep.

Yep.

At one point, Kim and Kanye.

Yeah, at one point.

That's crazy that, like,

that they were together, you know?

Yeah, that was kind of a mirage.

Yeah.

So,

sad.

When I climb into bed, I start feeling sad.

Yeah, no, this, this sucks.

Like, I love, I love a

famous person with someone who's like not, well, only when it's a man.

I love a famous man with like a not famous woman.

I hate when a woman does it.

It's like, girl, what are you doing?

But then we also say, get a businessman bow.

Businessman Bo is different.

I'm talking about just like not famous.

Like

average Joe.

Yeah, no, like a Titan of Industry is different.

Okay, okay, cool.

Ever since I heard the phrase Titan of Industry, I've said it now three times on the show, I've realized.

It's become one of my favorite things.

I heard it.

It's a great terror.

I heard it in like kind of a sad capacity when someone was speaking about how like, you know, history always repeats itself.

And this is what happens to Jews.

They're expelled from lands.

They go to new lands.

They're excommunicated.

They're forced to, you know, start their own industries.

And then they become Titan of Industries.

And then they become so assimilated.

And then there's resentment.

And then that's like the peak, the arc.

And then they escape.

And then Holocaust.

So

I don't love how I learned the phrase Titan of Industry.

Nevertheless, it's a good phrase.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Are you ready for our next story?

Yes.

Elizabeth Hurley is reacting to the theories that she took Prince Harry's virginity.

Okay.

Question mark.

Elizabeth Hurley was shocked by unfounded theories that she was the older woman who took Prince Harry's virginity.

Okay, wait.

Because in his book.

I totally see it, by the way,

it's giving Diana and Nate and gossip girl.

Yeah.

In his book, he talks about how an older English woman took his virginity in, I'm going to pronounce this wrong, just leave me alone, Gloucestershire.

No, Jackie, Gloucestershire.

And

Glouceshire.

Gloucestershire.

Gloucestershire.

And people were speculating that it was Elizabeth Hurley.

So she was on Watch What Happens Live on Wednesday.

And of course, Harry had to ask.

Did you say it was a actress?

No.

Okay.

He just said an older English woman.

So it could have been someone's grand.

Like it could have been anyone.

Yeah, no, it could have been like a society lady.

And I think people actually did kind of piece together who it was.

But names in the running included Elizabeth Hurley.

And she said, that was ludicrous.

She said, quote, he said she was English.

She was older than me.

It was in Gloucestershire.

And they were like, ah, it's Elizabeth.

It's so true.

It was absurd.

It was ridiculous.

This is where it is.

She said she's never even crossed paths with him.

I've never met him in my life.

Well, that's shocking.

That is.

Because I know for a lot of people, like, it's giving Nate and Diana.

What was her name?

Diana.

But for me, it's the Royals on E.

She plays a bunch.

That show was so amazing.

That girl is still married to the guy, right, from the Royals, Alex Park.

She's married to which guy?

I don't know.

She married someone.

Jasper?

Double check.

Or maybe they dated, but no, I think they're married.

Alexandra Park.

I feel like, no, you're onto something.

This is familiar.

Yeah, right?

Mm-hmm.

I wonder if it was Jasper.

Just who's her husband?

Is she married?

How do you know who she is?

I have no idea.

That's so funny because I never watched the show.

And I just remember the actress who played like the main girl.

Oh, my God.

No, wait.

Sorry.

She's married to James Lafferty from One Tree Hill.

Oh, cool.

That's why her name sounded familiar to me because it triggered me.

I was going to say, I can't believe you brought that up.

Yeah, unintentionally.

Moving on.

One thing I have to say, like, this is why you've got to love Andy Cohen, because, like, he's asking the questions nobody else is asking.

Yeah.

And I'm glad we cleared that up.

And honestly, her response is hilarious.

Although, like, if I had read the book, I would have imagined Elizabeth Hurley, too, in my brain.

Yeah.

Both like the real woman, because she's just like a a fabulous English woman, but also because of every character she plays.

Exactly.

And, you know, she is older than Harry.

She is British.

And like, she's she's very sexy.

And, like, I don't know.

It's not that far off.

It's not.

Yeah.

But unfortunately, it wasn't her.

Damn.

I wish it was.

Are you ready for our next story?

Yes.

What number?

Some more

three.

Some more inter-celebrity news.

Okay.

Michael Douglas discovers he's related to Scarlett Johansson on Finding Your Roots.

I love this show.

So Michael Douglas has discovered a fellow actor is also a distant relative, Scarlett Johansson, on the PBS series Finding Your Roots, the host revealed that he is a DNA cousin of Scarlett.

He said, are you kidding?

Oh, that's amazing.

All right, this is cool.

This is so cool.

So Michael Douglas is Jewish?

I was just thinking that too.

I think he is, by the way.

I am.

It's not like the crazy thing.

He's like, looks kind of like an older shit.

Oh, yeah.

The two actors, branches of shared DNA, appeared on Scarlett's maternal lines, which stretch back to Jewish communities in Eastern Europe.

Yeah, because at the end of the day, we're all related.

Well, of course, yeah.

I

like this show, I don't know what it used to be called.

Olivia was obsessed with it.

It's like, who do you think you are?

It was like this

on TLC.

And they got a lot of celebrities to agree to do it.

And they did these extensive ancestral, like background checks.

And they've learned a lot of things about different families

and different people and then connected celebrities to other celebrities.

And it was such a great show.

And clips from that show are...

constantly coming up on my TikTok and it really was such a brilliant concept.

I didn't know they were still doing it on PBS and I love

Yeah, that was like Ben Affleck, right?

He found out that his ancestors were slave owners.

Did he?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure.

Yikes.

I should probably double check that.

That's giving major yikes energy.

B-Y-E, buy big yikes energy.

Ben Affleck's great-great-great-grandfather owned 25 slaves, according to a deleted segment of Finding Your Roots.

Okay, like it's not his fault, like a deleted segment.

Why do I have to delete it?

Like, and it's unfortunate, but that's our history.

Like, yeah, yeah, it's unfortunate and maybe they just like

wasn't that a thing on southern charm too i mean that's yeah it's a lot i mean start in boston so it's like not that crazy but it may like southern charm is like a lot of their families because the big families calhoun like yeah they all yeah oh

i would love to get this done

like do you have to be a celebrity to go on the show

Or are there like companies that do it for lay people?

Because like when you're of Eastern European Jewish descent, a lot of your history is like, not your history, like your ancestry is fucocked because we were all murdered at one point in time.

Yes.

And of course the companies that do it for lay people are like ancestry.com

when they're not like getting all their data leaks.

Yeah.

But like people who are going to like make you a detailed chart, tell you like what this person did, if you have any like notable relatives, yeah, like a whole 360.

Yeah, no, ancestry.com is very like on the surface.

And I don't want to give all my information to like this fucocked company.

I don't know.

I'm sure there are like

PI types who do this like privately for families.

I would love to do like a big ass family tree.

Like, well, I would like to just honestly hire someone to do it.

I don't want to do it myself.

I'm sure this is some people's jobs.

They like comb through records.

Hopefully they find.

Someone will now reach out because I would do that.

Yeah, I think it's so fascinating.

And imagine getting to go on TV and have someone do it for you.

That's the dream.

I'm getting publicity and a family tree.

Yeah.

Unless you're Ben Affleck and then it's like, oh, maybe I shouldn't have to.

Some questionable.

Yeah, yeah.

Yikes.

Are you ready for our next story?

I don't know.

I just, I'm, I, I climb into bed and I start feeling sad.

I feel like we're really rushing through the stories, like not intentionally.

No, not intentionally.

That's what I tried to tell you at the top of the show.

You did.

You tried to tell me and I wouldn't listen.

So I guess we could slow it down with this think piece.

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Our next story, some big music news, some big money moves for the band called KISS.

Okay.

KISS has sold their catalog, name, and likeness for $300 million

to Pop House Entertainment.

So Pop House Entertainment is a Sweden-based music investment firm that is responsible for ABBA's hologram show.

So now Kiss has sold all their Crapola.

And I think it's fair to say, like, there will be a Kiss.

Kiss hologram tour.

But they've sold all of their

value-wise.

300 male Kiss.

When I think of like name, likeness, like the makeup, the logo, like I think they have probably some of the strongest branding in band history.

Like you could see a font and you would say that's the Kiss font, you know?

And then the tongues, the hair, the outfits, the makeup, and then of course the music.

I would say it's extremely valuable.

I feel like they could have gotten it.

I would say it's valuable, but that does still feel really high.

Like, I'm impressed.

I'm impressed, but I feel like it could have been 500, honestly.

What?

It's really iconic.

Like, it really is.

Okay, like 500 million for a font.

No, not for a font, Jackie, for the brand.

And, like, exactly.

For a tongue.

By the way, that's val, like, is valuable.

Can you name a kiss song?

Uh,

like to the jungle

Just taking a stab in the dark.

Is that a name of the song?

Was that a guess?

Or was that what you Googled?

That was my guess.

Oh.

And it's not on their top five on Spotify.

Give me their number one song, just the title.

I will.

I will.

But now I need to see who sings Welcome to the Jungle.

Guns and Roses.

Literally the same thing.

Agreed.

I'm sorry.

But wait, Kiss sing.

Okay, Kiss Sings.

Kiss sings.

I was made for loving you.

I don't think I know that one.

Rock and Roll All night is that I

want to rock and roll all night

and body every day.

Ah.

Okay, I was made for loving you is almost at a billion streams.

I'm just going to take a quick listen because we have to know it.

Okay, but we're going to get demonetized.

We're right.

We don't do run ads.

No, I know, but when we, we know, turn it off, turn it off, turn it off, turn it off.

When we get demonetized, YouTube puts ads in our shit without us knowing.

It's really annoying.

I meant to tell you that we have to stop doing that.

Play music.

I guess we'll never know.

People were coming to me.

Like, why are there so many ads?

I was like, I don't know.

And it's because we got demonetized.

So that they monetize.

Yeah, no, it's kind of like

when we get demonetized, we lose the choice to not have ads.

And then they just put that shit on us.

So we were choiceless.

Without consent, yeah.

Sick.

Then also, Detroit Rock City.

Okay, like Loki, I feel like they have like two ads.

Heaven's on fire.

Lick it up.

Jaggy, that's why they do this.

Yeah.

Okay, 300th feels right.

Yeah, I'm happy for them.

What do you think the toast catalog, you know, discography branding is worth?

I mean, to me, it's priceless.

No, but like, actually, given what we know about our business, like, and the industry, the landscape, like, if we were to sell everything.

Ourselves included or us advit?

Ourselves included.

Like, we keep working.

They don't, like, then get everything and then like without us, it's worth zero.

Okay, no, no, no.

Let's just say they get everything without us.

Like, what do you think our work is worth?

I think our work is worth, like, without any future earnings, like, $25 million.

I really do.

I agree with that.

That's roughly what I was thinking.

Like, that's what I think the industry would value it at as well.

I think that's what the NASDAQ would say.

So,

Pop House Entertainment, if you're interested in a toast hologram tour, that's our price.

And I would love a hologram tour as long as they made me look skinny and tan.

Like, I'm in bed.

Yeah, right.

But I'm earning.

obsessed great where do i sign up abba send the paperwork abba is a client but yeah you know what i mean swedish has mafia i love abba swedish has mafia send the paperwork i love abba i'm so glad you brought that up i love abba but i hate mama mia

yeah what should you do with the distinction I can be dancing queen.

This is what I mean about Thursdays.

Like we could just have these types of conversations, you know?

Yeah, we're in no rush.

Honestly, dancing queen, I know it's so basic, but like every time I hear that song, a chill runs through my body.

Okay, there are a lot of ABBA songs, chicka-di-da-yu, and I know, that really give me the chills, but one in particular, because I feel like this, you get added to the list of stories I've said.

Have I said this before?

I don't know what you're saying.

Winner takes it all.

I was about to say winner takes it all too, but I don't know why you're, what's your story?

Did you guys ever see the documentary, Keep Sweet, Pray, and Obey?

One moment really stuck with me when this girl was like really thinking about leaving this like fundamentalist, disgusting, like marrying young women cult.

And somebody snuck her in like a walkman and and a CD.

And the CD had one song on it.

It was an ABBA CD with one song.

And she went to this like mountaintop.

It was giving very much

sound of music.

She's on this mountaintop, Jackie, and she's listening to this walkman.

And it's just this one song that she's listening to over and over again.

The winner takes it all and she decides to run away with her boyfriend and leave this cult.

And then the next day, he decides to stay and snitches on her.

Like she made this huge decision and then this man betrayed her.

But they had this reenactment in the documentary.

She's like literally in this like, it's literally giving the sound of music because she's in this frock from her cult and like this hat and she's just sort of like standing in the wind and her dress is flowing and she's like the winnette takes it all

the loser standing tall like it was really moving and I just love that song.

It's a great song.

I'm glad that

that brought you to it.

What's another

don't go

also gimme gimme gimme a man after midnight classic so relatable like I feel like it's just like a lot of women like have a cocktail and they're just like gimme, gimme, gimme.

Yeah.

Mama Mia, like classic.

Yeah, fine.

Take a chance on me.

So cute.

Take a chance on me.

Yes.

Lay all your love on me.

That's what I was just singing.

Lay all your love

on me.

So good.

Oh, Super Trooper, Margo's favorite song.

Super Trooper, lights are gonna blind you, like I always used to.

By the way, I think I need to add some ABBA to my writing playlist.

I was just singing that.

Sometimes sometimes like one song will come on and then I go to ABBA and I just listen to all of them.

I mean

So good.

So good.

I feel like TikTok has had a huge influence on ABBA like having a resurgence.

And I think honestly, if they went on tour, especially in America, like people would go, young people would go.

Oh my God.

It's probably a blast.

And I just want to say, I know TikTok is responsible for ABBA's resurgence, but the cream rises.

Like, I'm sure TikTok tried with others.

Kiss.

I'm sure, I'm sure even, yeah, like I'm sure there was also, I think with companies like that, they sometimes will like put forth an artist just to see how much influence they have.

Like, can we make this thing that nobody cares about?

Can we get people to care about it?

But ABBA, like, it's so organic.

It's true.

It's, it's talent.

Waterloo?

What's that?

No clue.

Don't play it.

She won't let me play it, so we'll never know.

But it's number one on This Is ABBA on Spotify.

I mean, feel free to leave the room and go listen to it.

Like, for real.

I'm not fucking around.

Wait, does this have a headphone, Jack?

No.

That's like, oh, no.

I guess we'll never know what Waterloo sounds like.

And that's okay.

Yeah.

Okay.

Chikatita, you were just...

Chikatita diwin, I know.

What's money, money, money?

I have no idea.

We'll never know, because we can't play it.

We'll never know.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

Oh, it just feels so final, you know, but I am.

Like, I actually have a busy day of things to do, so I shouldn't shouldn't dilly-dally.

Yes.

And so in more emerging news from Quiet Onset, Drake Bell joined the Not Skinny But Not Fet podcast, and he talked about the child,

crimes against a child charges against him and started to clarify

what it was going on.

So Drake Bell.

And I have to say, I did my own research when the documentary came out, and I learned a lot about it, too.

Yes, and a lot of people were like commenting things about the case, which, you know,

have to fact check, but it seems as though it's not like it wasn't so clear

and now he's speaking out about it and he said drake bell has vehemently denied the allegations that he groomed a teenage girl nearly three years after being arrested for crimes against a child so he said Tuesday that the claims were not true and that he only pleaded guilty because he had been financially devastated at the time.

He said on Not Skin Even Off That podcast, I responded on some DMs and was incredibly irresponsible and got myself into conversations that I shouldn't have had.

I ended up finding out that I was talking to someone that I shouldn't have have been talking to, and it snowballed into these allegations that were not true, and it just turned into this big thing.

He pleaded guilty in June, 2021 to a felony, attempted child engagement, and misdemeanor disseminating matter harmful to juveniles.

He was sentenced to two years of probation.

He said, I just had a son and I didn't want to put my family through all of this anymore.

I ended up going through the process the way that I did.

Very regretful.

Yeah.

A lot of the

something that I learned during my research on Drake Bell after Quiet Unset was that there were a lot of allegations made against him and during the actual court process.

It was proved that the girl actually lied about her age.

Therefore,

you can't groom someone if you think they're 19 or whatever.

And that a lot of the allegations turned out to be not true.

However, like he said, due to his circumstances, he just sort of like let it happen.

But then also, I think it was kind of easy to believe and maybe still is easy for people to believe because that's how like abuse works.

It's a cycle.

Like you become a victim of abuse and then then you become an abuser.

That's and it's on you to break the cycle, but a lot of people don't.

Yeah.

So I think people believe this.

Also, he pleaded guilty.

So it didn't feel like it's

guilty.

Right.

But now he's explaining why he did that and that it's not what it seems and it's not nearly as nefarious as we would have thought.

So yeah.

I'm glad he's having this opportunity to clear his name because I do feel like up until

he came out.

And he was just kind of like

discarded.

Yes.

You know, as just like crazy,

crazy and also like Peter Felic, you know?

Yeah, crazy.

But it's like, there's so much more to the story and it's not that.

Yeah, yeah.

But also when he told his truth on Quiet Onset and everybody was really championing him, there was also this other conversation being had online.

People being like, well, what, and honestly, go down to Amanda for asking the question because I think that's the, like, probably the number one question a lot of people had for him.

It's like, well, thank you for sharing your story and everything, but like, what about this?

Yeah, yeah.

Two things can be true.

yes for sure but i feel like now we're getting a full picture and i actually like i understand his explanation

yeah

so those are the fast five stories you need to know them you need to know them and if anything i feel like it's going to inspire people to listen to abba today and i feel like

We can sleep well knowing that that's our influence.

I feel like today you're going to be influenced after this podcast to listen to ABBA and listen to the redheads.

Just an idea.

And I feel like you're going to be influenced to read the book.

Oh, for sure.

Once I pick up my Kindle, that's what I'll read.

Once she picks up her Kindle, it's over for you, bitches.

And also, like, the reason I haven't read is because I'm reading Demon Copperhead and I want to read a physical copy of it.

Cause like when I'm out and about on the plane, like and I'm reading Demon Copperhead, like I want people to know I'm reading Demon Copperhead, you know?

So I will not be, I haven't started it because like I'm not starting that shit on my Kindle.

I'm sorry to not.

No one has seen you.

I'm not.

Like I'm just not starting it on my Kindle.

Like when I go to Israel, I'll be in the airport.

Like I need everyone to know.

And then I'm fine.

Right now you'd be reading at home and no one would see what you're reading.

I can only read Demon Copperhead in public, so people know I'm like a scholarly woman.

But don't you feel like you'll have a hard time processing the words if you're just like thinking about everybody looking at you?

No, I thrive off of everybody looking at me.

No, yeah, you thrive, but that's not conducive to reading comprehension, especially with such a meaty, chewy book.

That's true, that's true.

I might have to take some time to reading inside.

It's chewy.

Oh, don't say that.

I'm hungry.

What do you have for lunch?

I don't know.

Like, my life has kind of become like decentralized to lunch.

Like, dinner is, like, so my energy these days.

Like, I'm, of course, having lunch, but it's not like, it's not special.

It's not big to do.

I feel like, you know, in

recent weeks, like, we've talked about lunch extensively and like it's really been the center of my day.

My whole day revolves around my dinner.

Like, that's so exciting.

You don't do your TWB or your wrap after this.

I haven't done a warm bowl or a wrap in a while.

I'm always just kind of like eating on the go, you know, as a working woman, like some chicken, some fruit, like nothing exciting.

Yeah, I would agree with that.

Dinner is the main event around here.

Lunch, maybe some egg whites.

Even I've like, yeah, I was thinking maybe a Taylor Farms, but last time I had a Taylor Farms for lunch, it like sat out on the table.

I couldn't even get around to finishing it.

Because we're busy working women.

Yeah.

We need like a smoothie.

Perfect for a gal on the go.

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