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The Toast with Jackie (@JackieOshry) and Claudia Oshry (@girlwithnojob)
The Camper and The Counselor by Jackie Oshry
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Good morning, millennials.
Welcome back to the toast and happy Tuesday that feels like a Monday for y'all girl because I wasn't on yesterday, but I'm back, baby.
Back.
Back in the toasty group.
Yeah, I'm back.
Hey, Jax.
Is there a question there?
How you dern?
Darn good, thank you.
Welcome back, La Tour de Lou.
Oh my God, thank you so much.
Not only am I back on the toes, I feel like I'm back to life.
I've just been, I have not left my house in eight days.
I have like not showered.
I look like a disgusting rat.
And so today, like, my hair is done, my makeup is on.
Like, I feel, I don't know, I'm just feeling like myself again.
I love that for you.
How is due?
The question on everyone's mind.
Let me say this has been a horrible week.
Like, maybe one of the worst of my life.
Top five for sure.
Depends when you ask.
Theo is okay.
He's totally fine.
He's like, he's stable.
He's stable.
He's feeling good.
He's eating.
He's cuddling with his parents.
Like, all signs he's on med.
So I don't believe he's in pain.
That's like one of my number one concerns because I don't want to, you know, be doing this like selfishly.
Like, I want to be doing it for Theo, not for me.
So
if you haven't been like following my stories, I'll just give like a quick, you know, update.
The last time I was on the toast, Theo was in the hospital.
He had these two tumors, they are cancerous, they have spread quite aggressively.
Um,
surgery is not an option, we can't remove the tumors because it's you know, it's everywhere, it's in his bones.
Um,
chemotherapy is really not an option, they don't think it'll work.
So
it's terminal, it's like a very bad diagnosis.
So yesterday we started radiation, which was like really our only treatment option for him.
It's once a week for the next couple of weeks.
He did very well yesterday.
It's palliative radiation, so we're not going to, it's not curative.
Like we're never going to cure this.
But in the ideal scenario, this radiation would significantly decrease the size of his tumors and he could go back to, you know, living a somewhat normal life, but with cancer.
Ideally, his pain would decrease, his discomfort would decrease, and this would extend his life.
Now, there's no guarantee that this works.
We'll probably know by next week for the second appointment if the first one made any sort of headway with decreasing the tumor.
If it doesn't work,
cross-separage.
Yeah.
So, yeah, it's been really hard.
It's like, I think when you like, sorry.
Like, I'm sure like everyone can attest to this, including you, like when you're a pet owner, like you always think about this.
Like, it pops into your mind like once a week and you're like, that day will never come.
And it's like, just like always something you're like constantly afraid of.
So now having confronted it with like my first, you know, dog that I own, made a dog growing up.
But like as an adult, it's so much harder than I could have.
like really ever imagined.
I also think like this is a particular like tough situation.
I don't know how like most dogs
and their life, but ideally it's like old age.
With Theo's breed, we've always been prepared for like later in life, him having a heart condition.
It's it's genetic for their breed, so we're always like super on top of what they eat, making sure they don't get overweight, always keeping heart health in mind.
Yeah, and this breed doesn't have like the longest of years, and we've always known that, but this is much shorter than anything else.
Yeah, like with a cavalier, if you get to like 12, you're really lucky, but most of them start developing like heart issues around like nine or 10.
So I was prepared for that.
I was not prepared for this.
Like out of nowhere, left field, aggressive cancer spreading really quick at the age of six.
Like every, and it doesn't make me feel better, but like every doctor we talked to is like shook.
Like it just doesn't, like this should not be happening.
It feels really unfair.
Yeah.
No, it is.
It is.
And I'm so sorry.
And you're doing everything.
You're doing so amazing.
You're being so amazing for Theo.
He has the best care.
He has the best parents.
I just like don't, I'm like afraid that I'm being selfish.
selfish.
I know we were told at the emergency room that on Wednesday, once they did like the full biopsy and everything, we were like strongly encouraged to put him down.
But
we didn't.
And I think that, you know, we were told that like most people who go to the hospital who are in the situation, like we, we were, we did a CT scan.
which showed like really like the
the amount that it had spread and it was like $1,800.
And she was like, you know, most people can't even do the the cat scan so like
i feel you know torn because i'm so grateful that i was able to do all this and provide everyone on my christmas list is getting coal like i'm i'm literally giving it everything that i've got um
and i know much for secret sam yeah i know that if i was in like a different situation um my options would be more limited and i'm really grateful that i have these options but i just don't i'm so afraid of like doing this just for me you know no but you've been thinking about that every step of the way.
You know when he's in pain.
You know right now that he's on medication and he's not in pain.
He's actually been quite happy at home.
He's eating cookies.
You know, he's homesick from school.
He's getting the perks.
I don't think that he's in pain right now.
And I know that when the time comes that you'll make the right decision for him.
I just really, really hope that
this radiation like makes
some sort of dent like just a little like
I mean it would be like she had seen like a similar dog situation who had over a year, and she was like, I was shook.
There's no way to know.
Like, cancer is just so mysterious.
Everyone's different.
So
there's a chance it's one month and it's, there's a chance it's three years.
Like there's just no way to know.
So I know for a fact that like so many people have messaged me that like they're praying for Theo and like from all different you know denominations.
And I just, I know that works.
Like I know it does.
It has to.
So I'm really appreciative.
And like, honestly, me and Ben were talking about like how, how, like, so when we picked him up from the hospital on Wednesday, the timing could not have been worse
going into Thanksgiving weekend.
So we had been doing all this research on clinical trials and we were calling all these different clinics and no one was in.
So our goal was just to keep him stable and comfortable from Wednesday to Monday.
We just had to make it to Monday because we could not get a single individual on the phone.
via email, anything until Monday.
So we did that and I felt like really optimistic on Sunday night.
I was like, oh my God, we did it.
And then on Monday, I was just like, okay, I did it, but we have no sort of
plan or like no hope.
And so taking him to radiation yesterday like felt good.
It was like the first time I've been able to be proactive instead of just like keeping him stable.
Now I feel like we're actually fighting.
So in that sense, I feel good, but like the
just, it's so unknown if it's going to do anything.
And I'm just.
I'm trying really hard to be positive, but it does.
I feel like I keep saying this to Ben, like, I feel like I'm being punished.
Like, what did I do?
It's so unfair.
So
it's okay.
He's going to be okay.
Well, the big first step, you made it to Monday.
And honestly, there were points last week where who knew that that was even going to be accomplished.
So step one, check.
You just keep doing the next right thing and you'll know what's right.
You'll know what in your gut.
I feel so also like
so grateful for like the community that we've made.
Like I seriously,
there's so many people who who have helped me in the last week that I know personally from the toast.
Like the hospital that Theo was at, you know, the head of oncology's sister is a toaster.
And so we were able to connect with her over the holiday when really not a lot of other oncologists were working.
Her name is Nicole Lehman.
She was amazing.
I've had just so many people helping me, like from the Cavalier Alliance.
Her name is Tanya.
She's amazing.
She's just been like, you know, helping me with medical stuff, but also just like talking me through, like
literally being so upset.
There's just so many people and I will, I want to thank everyone, but
really what I'm praying for, like everyone just send the most positive love and light to Dr.
Carrie Rosen in Yonkers.
Like her, Theo's fate is in her hands.
She's amazing.
So I was like going through my messages because people have just been so helpful.
And this girl was like, I have had two dogs with cancer.
You have to go see this specialist in Yonkers.
I'm like, wait, is it Carrie Rosen?
She was like, yeah, she told me her whole story.
She sent me like all all of her medical records.
Like just everyone has been so helpful and so wonderful.
And I'm so grateful.
So I have to just really focus on the positive.
Like one, that I'm able to provide this level of care for Theo.
Like I'm very, very blessed.
Two, that there are so many people, like in my personal life, like so many people have been texting me sending flowers, cookies, so many of the brands that we work with that sponsor the show.
Theo like touched everyone, touches everyone.
He does.
So like I have to focus on that.
Like I'm very, very blessed in my life for the platform that we have, like, the resources that you are.
The resource into like
the access, information, yeah, information.
Like, theos on a bunch of herbal, like, so many people were like, I know it sounds crazy, but like, holistic and herbal pet care is, like, legit.
And at first, I was like, okay, sure.
But, like, everybody kept saying, like, the same couple of herbs.
They're like, I swear to God, turkey tail.
I swear to God, Uninbio.
Like, I'm going to the holistic pet store today.
Like,
access to that sort of information from people who have experience is an enormous privilege.
And I'm very, very grateful.
So I really need to focus on like the good that I've been able to do and hopefully will continue to do.
But honestly, this has been one of the hardest things like I've really ever, ever dealt with in my life.
And honestly, what's so weird is like this obviously
isn't my first experience with like grief, but it is my first experience with like, hopefully not, but like potentially like losing someone over time.
I feel like anytime I've lost someone, it's been so sudden.
Like with daddy, like we just found out one day he he wasn't sick, like he just had a heart attack.
And people always compare, like, would you rather know?
Would you rather be able to say goodbye?
Or would you rather not?
And honestly, this is so much harder.
This is so much worse, like for real.
Yeah.
And I just, I knew it would be difficult.
I thought, you know, 500 years down the line, it is much, much harder than it's one of the most challenging things I've ever dealt with in my adult life.
Like for real.
That makes sense.
And you're not wrong for feeling that way.
It's
heartbreaking.
But you're doing like we have to focus on the positive.
Theota, he's doing well.
He's eating.
He's eating.
He's got his diaper on.
Yeah, his diaper take up the world.
The first few days, and I don't want to compare because I know it's like brood and I'm not a mother.
I know that.
But this is, I think, the closest I'll really ever get to like a newborn phase.
Like we are up throughout the night.
We are changing diapers.
We are putting him back to sleep.
We are giving him medication.
We are taking him out like a couple times a night and then of course all throughout the day yeah
wow wow
wow
i will say like ben will be the best dad like if i'm like i'm doing 40
he would probably argue that i'm doing less like he's doing so much so I'm trying to like, you know, pick out positive things.
Like, Ben will be a wonderful father.
We'll be great parents.
I know it.
Like,
I'm trying trying to, you know,
I'm trying, like, I feel like there's a lesson to be learned here.
Like, what is the message I'm being sent from God?
Like, it's not for you to have to parse out the message while you're going through it.
You know, don't.
It would make me feel better to like know.
You'll get there.
Yeah.
You'll get there.
I've been thinking a lot about maybe getting another puppy because I've heard that like young spirits can really reinvigorate.
They say like senior dogs or sick dogs.
Ben's like not into it.
He's like, why are we replacing Theo?
I'm like, we're not.
We're helping him.
Then I also think like when the time comes, you know, in a hundred years where Theo's time is up, like, I think it would be easier on us.
Yeah.
So I'm just thinking through a lot of things.
Well, I love the idea of baby.
Me too.
Baby, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, baby, do.
Theo would love it.
All the nibblings would love.
And welcome with open arms.
So it's just been such a crazy week.
I'm so excited to be like back doing mindless shit.
Like it's been just eight days of heaviness and I want to just talk shit.
I want to just think about anything else but this, but I wanted to give everyone an update, obviously.
Great.
Well, thank you for the update.
Thank you for being here.
Of course.
Oh my God.
I really wanted to be here yesterday.
Yesterday was such a busy day.
I will say like I'm taking any appointment I can get for the radiology but like the next couple of ones has 1030.
I'm like, no, it's great.
Thank you so much.
We'll just have to work around them.
That's fine.
It's, you know, it's that time of year anyway.
It's a holiday.
It's true.
Things come up.
We've got to do early.
We've got to do late.
Things happen.
So when we dropped Theo off at radiology yesterday, it was two hours, and they were like, you can go.
Like, you can't even be here.
So you can either sit in the waiting room or like go do stuff.
So we explored Yonkers.
Beautiful, like absolutely stunning.
We went mini golfing.
It was actually so much fun.
And we just really felt like when we walked into that place where the like the animal hospital, where Dr.
Queen Carrie Rosen will hopefully bring my boy back to life.
We were like, it's such positive energy.
We really felt like Carrie was some sort of like witch in a good way.
Like she has some sort of powers.
Like I'm telling you, I have a good feeling about it.
That's good.
Positive vibes only.
It's so hard.
For me, especially, but like I think for anyone in the situation, but given the fact that I'm like the most negative bitch on the planet, it's been really hard.
I feel like you are being
very positive and mentally healthy about this as much as you can be while also like experiencing the emotions of it.
Every time I, like when when me and Ben are in the house alone for a really long time and like we don't talk to anyone, it gets really dark.
And we're only one of us is allowed to like cry, be weak at one time.
Like if I'm crying, Ben is not allowed to cry.
He has to be like the positive one.
And when Ben cries, I'm like, Ben, it's fine.
Like we have been ping-ponging.
But when we don't like see other people,
it gets really hard.
But we had family coming over all weekend.
Like Ben's parents came, my family came.
And every time they come, I do feel better.
Yeah.
And Theo always like, he can't really move around a lot.
But like when people walk in the room, like his head perks up, people he knows and loves, like his camp and school friends, and his tail wags.
So, like, every time people come over, like, I do feel so much better.
Every time, like, I FaceTime you, like, I feel better.
But it's, it's really hard.
You need buoys.
I, I need buoys.
I was wondering this morning, does the dog walking crew know what's going on?
Yeah, that's been honestly like one of the hardest parts is like telling people in my life who see Theo all the time, who love him so much.
Oh, I like to make you upset.
No, it's okay, but like, we, you and I, when you lived here, we shared a housekeeper, housekeeper, and she loves, loves, loves Bruno and Theo so much.
Loves, they love her.
So she had come on Wednesday when Theo was still at the hospital and I hadn't told her, and she was like, Where's Theo?
And I just like started crying, and she started crying.
And you know, she's been praying for Theo.
And then I spoke to a lot of the old doormen in my building yesterday because I had some packages, and they called me.
They're like, You want to pick it up?
And I wanted to tell them because they love Theo.
Of course, his dog walker, Jonathan, who loves him so much, has been texting me, his groomer.
So
he touches so many people.
Yeah.
And that's been really hard.
He has his community and his friends.
That's been one of the hardest parts.
Damn.
When you're like a ray of light, everyone you shine on feels, you know, they feel the darkness
when you're not there.
It's so true.
Shine on, Theo.
Shine on.
Well, I have my Theo pillow here with me.
Bruno and I
think of Theo all day, every day.
And we'll get through this.
We will get through this.
I was just like, I need it to be over, you know?
But like, in a good way.
Yeah.
Just hard to get out of here.
I'll keep everyone updated.
I know.
Okay, well, I'm going to do my best to bootload today.
That's my job.
How are you?
I mean, after that, I don't know.
I'm good.
I think.
And yeah, no, I'm good.
Just busy.
Busy time of year, as I was saying with Live on the Toast yesterday.
We had a very fun time.
Jolly good fun on the show yesterday.
And yeah, just enjoying.
This is the greatest time of year.
I i know you're having a hard time but we have to acknowledge the space that we're in between thanksgiving and christmas turdy lou i know i feel like it's like passing me by when we were driving up to yonkers last night i was looking around all the trees were bare yeah and i was like what the happened to fall i missed the whole thing you didn't miss the whole thing you i did i'm missing everything it's not too late it's not too missing you're still gonna see the snow by christmas yeah
take theo to see the lights Yeah,
I gotta get him a stroller.
I'm one of those people now.
My dog is a stroller and a diaper.
By the way, get your dog a stroller.
I'm about to get one for a brew.
He just loves to be strolled.
Oh, I got to go to the pet store today.
Thank you for reminding me.
And you need to get your holistic pets.
Yeah, no, he needs his Yunin bio.
Apparently, it's like a Chinese herb.
Everybody's like.
I'm here for it.
Try everything.
What's like
downside with that stuff?
Hope?
I don't, Jackie, I don't even know who I am anymore.
I made an appointment with a pet psychic, okay?
And what are you hoping to glean?
That, like, she can just tell me what is going on in Theo's mind.
Okay.
Like, mom, keep fighting.
Mom, I'm okay, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, that would be good information to have.
Yeah, I'm just so desperate.
I'm trying things like I probably would have made fun of someone for, and that's why I'm a bitch and I'm the worst.
No, it's just you never, you have to learn.
You have to walk in someone's shoes.
You're learning.
So are you going to see a pet psychic?
Yeah.
When?
I don't know.
I missed the appointment on Friday.
I forgot.
I was like so busy.
Is it like Zoom?
Yeah.
That's a crock.
I know.
You have to go in person.
No, but she came really highly recommended.
Over Zoom?
She She came really highly recommended.
Claudia.
No, I know.
Find a pause in person.
They have to get their hands on pause.
No, I know.
Pause for pause.
Pause for pause.
Yeah.
Okay, back to booing.
I know everything's just going to come back to Theo, but how can you?
I know.
I'm going to try not to.
I'm really going to try.
Like, I really want to escape.
Like, I need that.
This show needs to do for me what it does for other people.
Great.
And that's on me today.
I'm going to take that on.
So let me just steward this ship.
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Our first story, Linda Evangelisa is making news by saying that she's not interested in dating right now.
She said, quote, I don't want to hear somebody breathing.
So Linda Evangelisa is really one of the most quotable people.
She's going viral again.
Her first moment was, I won't get out of bed for less than $10,000, right?
Right.
And now she did an interview with the Sunday Times when she was asked about dating.
She said, I'm not interested.
I don't want to sleep with anybody anymore.
I don't want to hear somebody breathing.
And I think that's a really important
point she brought up, you know, about breathing.
Yes.
And I know that this is something that you can.
Relate to.
No, we literally last night, like Theo came up to like lay between us and we were like, like, oh my god, so we were just like laying on him.
And it was such a nice moment.
Ben was breathing so loud.
And so I just couldn't help it.
I'm like, breathe louder.
Breathe louder.
And he had the absolute audacity to blame Theo.
How did he work that one?
He said it was Theo.
Oh, he said that it was breathing like that.
Wow.
I'm like, trust me, I know both of you in my bones and I know that breath anywhere.
That was your bitch.
Your husband is the breather.
Like, I actually.
He's actually really more so the cougher, but yes, he is also the breather.
Even in his Instagram stories, you hear him breathing in the background.
Oh, good.
Oh, good.
So I'm not crazy.
No, like he just breathes.
My husband and I, like, we don't breathe.
You definitely don't breathe.
I don't breathe.
Zach really doesn't breathe.
I, I, honestly, I can't relate to this.
Oh, my God.
Ben breathes and he breathes and then he breathes again.
It is so unacceptable.
And I know it sounds crazy, but I'm like, I just need you to stop breathing.
Now, I'm not saying I want you to die but you do need to stop breathing you need to stop taking breaths in the manner in which you you are breathing currently right I feel like maybe Elinda Evangelista's like past lovers and husbands were Ben breathers because that's like why she must enjoy sleeping alone so much at this point and she's been that's why I love making, because when I say something, Ben's just like, you're critical, like you're crazy, you're you're oversensitive.
That's why I love making content with Ben because all the things that he does, like I get validated.
Even we did a Patreon episode over the weekend, and me, Ben, and Theo, like, we couldn't leave the room.
So, Ben and Theo just had to listen to the podcast.
How many times did he cough in the background?
Oh, I didn't hear it.
I was busy pumping.
So,
okay, like a thousand.
Like, I just love that there's documented examples.
Right.
And now he has his own podcast.
Do you think that he is like secretly taking out some of his bodily functions?
I know that Josh
edits a lot of the episode for like continuity when they're on Zoom.
Like, they remove delays and stuff.
I have to imagine Josh is removing, I should ask him, like, five to ten coughs an episode.
I'm gonna ask.
And throat clears.
Right.
No, those are all the same to me.
Right.
That.
I've been clearing my throat a lot because it's like, you know, phase 12 of my sickness.
Right.
And it's so weird.
I will do it.
There's other people in the room.
It feels like I'm about to say something, but I'm not.
I'm just like.
When you edit good guys' episodes,
how many times does ben clear his throat and do i say that right do you edit it out
okay i think that makes sense i'll wait for him to respond oh he's on la time so we'll see if he's awake
i look forward to hearing back yeah so anyways linda evangelista
has attorney like situation
I saw like a funny funny tweet because this thing went so viral and there are like random headlines headlines.
And he was like, this is joining the headline hall of fame.
And the others in there were like, we're so classic.
Hold on, I need to find it.
It was so funny.
Please do.
I'm like, a grandma trying to headline hall of fame.
I should have like saved it or something.
I know.
You always, I always save the things I never need, and I don't save the ones that I'm constantly looking for.
No, I don't even know who said it.
Was it on Instagram or Twitter?
Twitter, which is just so hard to find.
But if the text was headline Hall of Fame.
I don't know if they said Hall of Fame.
Fuck.
It's.
There were some classics in there.
Damn.
Oh, Josh responded.
Ha ha ha.
Who knows?
Okay, thanks for nothing.
Literally useless.
He didn't know he was being put on the spot.
Yeah, no.
I like
that.
I'm not conducting research.
No, I'm always doing that on the toes, like trying to prove a point.
And so, sending texts to people.
And like, either they respond to me and they totally negate my point, or I forget.
And then after the show ends, I'm like, oh, why did Josh Peck text me?
No, totally.
You need to send like a disclaimer at the top.
This is for research purposes.
We are live recording the toast.
Your answer will be live broadcast.
And it does have implications.
No, you know, at the beginning of like most podcasts on dear media, it's like, this is a dear media production.
I should just send that little voice memo so people know on air.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you're on air.
And you know what?
Give us a little something, you know, like, right.
Do a flip.
Stir the pot.
Stir the pot.
Do a flip.
Yeah.
Anyways,
Lynn Evangelista,
quote, queen.
If anybody finds that tweet, just send it.
She needs to be on Brady quotes.
Do you remember Brady quotes?
Remember?
I mean, I used it like yesterday.
Actually, I was, I actually did.
Why?
Because I wrote a speech.
I spoke at a United Hutzalah event and they wanted me to speak.
And I was trying to find a particular quote.
Um, and I went on brainyquote.com.
What was the quote?
And did you find it?
I was trying to find the quote that you always quote from Game of Thrones, but I wanted to get the exact wording.
Okay,
um, and they had it on there.
We've been saying it like a little wrong, but I liked our version better, so I kept it.
What's the brainy quotes one?
It's not the brainy quotes one, it's the
Game of Thrones.
Hold on, I remember one time in college.
By the way, do you know who said it?
I had to think of the accent.
Someone not like this, it's not like Tyrion.
Yeah, no, I was surprised when I was doing my research, it was Varys, the eunuch.
That makes sense.
Yeah.
That feels right.
Immittable words.
Who.
No, wait.
Who uttered those
mortal words?
Margo Washray on the Redheads.
oh did she start that
yeah every time we do a rating for the book and we do the average in every single episode like accidentally it's not even on purpose she goes that feels right
that's so cute that's just her like not listening
no it's just it feeling right because that's what the average rating is it's a
representation of how we all feel about the book and it feels right like it should feel right yeah
I can't find the thing I was looking for but you know what what I mean.
I stand by.
I use Brainy Quote.
Use Brainy Quote.
Cool.
One time.
Honestly, BrainyQuote is the same as rhymezone.com.
Yeah, but just for a different purpose.
Yeah, no, a different journey.
A different journey.
Are you ready for our next story?
Yeah.
That Claudia sent my way.
Oh, good.
I meant to ask you if you chose this as a story.
First, Turdiloo.
Mark Cuban announces his plan to exit Shark Tank after season 16.
It's time, he said.
Mark Cuban believes his time on Shark Tank is coming to an end.
The billionaire businessman revealed that he will not be returning to ABC series after season 16.
He said, this is our 15th year, and next year, our 16th year, is going to be my last year.
So I got one more to go, he said on the All the Smoke podcast.
He said he feels it's time to leave the series after first appearing as a guest in season two and joining full-time in the third season.
I didn't realize he wasn't an original shark.
I did because when they play those really, really old, grady episodes, like where there's Vaseline on the lens on CNBC, there's that guy, Jeff Foxworthy.
It's so random.
The guy who hosts Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader?
Wow.
Wait, actually, I don't think that's the same guy.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Meanwhile, Mark said that he is grateful for the impact of the series.
I love it because it sends the message of the American dream is alive and well.
I feel like in doing Shark Tank all these years, we've trained multiple generations of entrepreneurs that if somebody can come from Iowa or Sacramento or wherever and show up on the carpet of Shark Tank and show their business and get a deal, it's going to inspire generations of kids.
That's what happens, right?
Now we've got people coming on saying, I watched you when I was 10 years old.
I'm like, fuck, but we're helping them, right?
I'm invested in, I don't know how many hundreds of companies.
Yes, by the way, Jeff Foxworthy.
Like, isn't that weird?
The same guy, are you smarter than a fifth grader?
That is weird.
I was shocked by this news.
I never thought much about Shark Tank ending or any of them leaving.
It's just kind of one of those things.
It's like stagnant.
It's just, it's always there.
But it's also the way the formula is, it could go on forever because it's a revolving door.
We don't need Mark on every episode, but for him.
And Mark isn't on every episode.
For things to like permanently exit feels like the beginning of something.
Yeah.
And I was just shocked by this because Shark Take is almost like a soap opera.
You know, it just goes on and people love it and it's not going to change the world, but it's just like, it's something that I've come to rely on almost.
And I was really shocked by this.
I never thought much, if you had asked me before this, who would be the first to leave?
Like, I wouldn't, I would have never had that thought on my own.
I
agree, but now in thinking about it
He makes sense to be the first to leave.
I agree because a lot of the other sharks are
known sharks, you know, and being a shark is like such a big part of their brand and like such a big part of who they are.
And I feel like for Mark, maybe not that you could really outgrow the tank, but like he doesn't want to be in the tank.
He is famous outside of the tank.
Yeah.
The most famous outside the tank.
Now the show will and can go on with the other sharks.
There are enough sharks,
but I was really shook by this.
Yeah, but it may like it, it's not like he wants a future in TV.
It's not like you don't bite, like, leave a good thing.
It's not like Bethany leaving housewives to do as before.
He was famous and rich before.
Yeah, and maybe in some ways being a shark is a little limiting.
I mean, you know, they're on ABC, so your, your contract is with Disney.
Like there's probably, it's definitely limiting in what other opportunities you can do.
But also just like, oh, here comes the shark tank guy.
Like when he's, you know, in a room of VCs and like all these big investors.
And it's like, maybe Shark Tank seems like,
I don't, I don't feel this way.
I don't feel Shark Tank to me is the biggest name in business.
Okay.
Yeah, of course.
I'm just speaking like what maybe a snob would say.
Yeah.
That maybe Shark Tank Tank is a little pedestrian.
By the way, people could, like fancy business people could see Shark Tank as pedestrian, but I think, you know, Mark's business and success like speaks for itself.
Right.
But maybe he wants to take that one pedestrian thing out of his portfolio while he continues on to big glamorous things.
Who do you think would be the last person to leave Shark Tank?
And why would it be Robert Herjebek?
I actually think it would be Mr.
Wonderful because he is the show.
He is.
He's the heart of the show.
Like, without Wonderful, the show is not the same.
I think without Mark, the show will be very much the same.
I think without Wonderful, it would be Nunderful.
You know what it would be?
It would be not Wonderful.
That's actually a really good point.
I don't think they've considered that.
Definitely not.
But do you think that like everyone, all the other sharks are shook?
No.
Or do you think there's like behind the scenes like drama I don't think there's really drama because they're all like so established normal people and they're all like grown adults you know who aren't like and and as parents the tank isn't like all they have in this world and they're gonna fight tooth and nail to stay in it true they have so much going on i think they're just like hey hey hey so there are six sharks right one of them is always revolving so now i guess all
i've all of them will be or someone who's been like a fan favorite guest might now become a full-time shark.
Yeah, or someone who's guested a lot.
Yeah, like it's like there's always it's never all the sharks there together.
Like no, right.
That's what I'm saying.
So it's it's five sharks at a time, but there are six sharks.
I don't know what the lineup is, honestly.
Like, cause I feel like Barbara's
episodes.
So it's, yeah, Barbara, Damon are like always interchangeable.
I feel like Lori's always there.
Robert is sometimes not there, but I feel like Lori, Mr.
Wonderful, and Lori and Mr.
Wonderful are always there.
Okay, so there's, I want to say, there's six.
It's Damon, Robert, Mark, Wonderful,
Barbara, Lori.
Yeah.
Right?
I didn't forget anyone.
No, I'm looking at a picture.
That's them.
So yeah, now I guess either it'll be all five all the time, or it might be exciting to add someone new.
Yeah, or to give someone a promotion that's been a guest.
Right.
Who's like currently like a famous businessman?
Like Elon Musk, but he's like too rich and famous for that.
But like, who's someone like that?
i feel like there's always like random businessmen running for president like one of those people vivek i'm sure that's right that's what by the way if it doesn't work out he can join the tank i was thinking but is he a businessman yeah
right like someone like that
or like that everybody loves that guy chris um he wears the bolo tie gopro
Yeah, the GoPro guy.
He could get the promotion.
Also, the kind bar guy.
I was just going to say that.
he could get full-time
But I do think or like Sarah Blakely if she wants That's what I was gonna say having a woman who's also like famous like Sarah Blakely is really famous like I knew who she was before she came on the tank the other two I didn't know them
and She owns a basketball team.
So like it would kind of be like similar to Mark.
Yeah, I don't need it to be a famous person
I need it to be someone who's like gonna make good deals and that has the money to make deals and has the power to make businesses successful.
Like I want it to be a shark.
Yeah, someone who's actually powerful.
Yeah.
I don't need to know their name.
I want maybe a new name.
Yeah.
What if we threw a new name into the mix?
Maybe like a single businessman who goes on to be a businessman bow for someone.
Love.
Love.
Love.
So that's what's going on in the tank.
I feel so.
The tank has been shaken up.
Yeah.
Shake it up.
Shark tank.
I have to tell Zach.
I wonder if he knows.
He never misses an episode and he loves Mark.
But also, like, the news wasn't big.
I saw it in like a random tweet and I was like, is this real?
And then I had to like search.
So it hasn't been, because there wasn't an official statement or anything.
He just said it on a podcast.
He said it on a podcast that that's what he was feeling.
I don't think he realized it was like going to be as big of a thing that it is.
But it's
on this season and he's going to do next season.
So it's we have time.
We have time.
Our next story.
Kylie Jenner says her and Jordan never fully cut each other off after the Tristan scandal.
So Kylie Jenner did an interview with Jennifer Lawrence for Interview Magazine.
And she talks about how her relationship with Jordan has transpired over the years.
She said, Jordan and I, we always stayed in touch throughout the years and we would meet up at my house and catch up and just talk through everything.
We never fully cut each other off.
And one day, naturally, we were like, we want to get sushi and we don't want to hide anymore.
The sushi outing occurred in July 2023 when they stepped out for a fun girls night.
The outing sent the internet.
Sushi park.
The outing sent the internet into a frenzy, but it appeared the pair had been on good terms for some time.
However, that doesn't mean the scandal didn't impact their friendship at all.
Kylie noted that she and Jordan, who were once inseparable, decided they needed a slight break from each other following the incident.
She said, there's a learning lesson in everything.
And I think that in a weird way, everything happens how it's supposed to happen.
We were so attached to the hip that we needed space to grow into the people that we were supposed to be.
I needed that independence and that confidence because she was like my security blanket for so long.
Yeah, like their relationship was like unhealthy for like grown girls, like having sleepovers every night.
We lived together.
Right.
So I agree with Kylie.
I do say, I do want to say, like, when celebrities get interviewed by like other celebrities, to me, it's like such an eye roll.
Like, just give the journalist her job back, you know?
But I happen to love, I read this Jennifer Lawrence one.
Like, it was, Jennifer Lawrence was so excited asking such funny questions, like snide commentary.
Yeah.
Obsessed.
Obsessed.
I was hoping there was going to be a butt at the end of your statement because, yeah, typically, you know, like,
no, it's Kim Kardashian by Jennifer Lopez.
Like, why?
Right.
No, or it's like.
Scorsese on Swift.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, why?
Go.
Like, I like a movie.
It's something I I happen to just dislike.
It just kind of gives like pretentious eye roll the eyes.
Like I don't like it.
It's also because it's not typically done in a way that's really fun or necessary.
Organic.
And this was those things.
This is just like a conversation.
And Jennifer Lawrence did a great job.
What can she do?
Yeah.
And like Jennifer Lawrence clearly just watches the show and like is a fangirl, but is also friends with them.
And she like can't get over that.
She's friends with them.
It was so relatable and she's so funny.
And I thought she did an excellent job.
So this is my exception to my rule.
I agree.
Does Jennifer Lawrence have a movie coming out?
Because she's been out and about a lot.
That's true.
She is, but not that I know of.
I mean, she's not in Hunger Games, right?
It's crazy that she didn't go to the premiere.
I don't know.
It's like a new generation.
Like, let them.
But, like, she is Hunger Games.
She is Hunger Games.
That's true.
Actually, like, at this very moment, I am Hunger Games.
I'm starving.
What are you going to have for lunch?
I don't know.
It's so hard.
I've just also, like, another reason I'm excited to be like out of my house.
Like, I have been just like a slob.
Like, I have reverted to my old self these last eight days.
Like, I have not worked out.
I worked out once.
I have just been eating crap.
Like, I literally ate a meatball sub.
Like, I'm just living my life.
It was so good.
But I'm like excited.
Like, I need to, like, put, if I want to feel good, I have to like put good things in my body.
Like, I need to, like, like, I walk to work.
Like, I, it's better.
Reset.
So I need to, I need to have like a good, healthy lunch.
Okay.
What does that entail?
Like a wrap.
Is that healthy?
I don't even know.
Wheat wrap?
Yeah, by the way, they only offer wheat wraps now.
Can we talk about that?
Like, anytime I get a wrap, they always say you want whole wheat or spinach.
I'm like, what about white wrap?
You're just talking about 40 carrots, which is no, no, I'm not.
I'm not.
I also get wraps from chopped and Lenwich.
Actually, Lenwich has white.
Maybe I'll get Lenwich today.
Yeah, Invite Dana.
That's her favorite restaurant in the city.
Is it?
Yes.
It would be.
She loves their tuna.
You know how we're always talking about on the toast, how there's a warm bowl place right by our studio that I'm, oh, wait, not me literally dreaming last night about the warm bowl place.
You know, I've been out of work for too long because I haven't had.
Do you think that was like your entrepreneurial side, kind of dreaming about opening up Turdy's Warm Bowls?
Turdy's Bolero?
What did we say we were going to?
Turdy's Warm Bowl.
Yeah, but then we, but then we...
Bowls change to something.
Yeah,
whatever.
Maybe, maybe it's, you know, I heard that Mark was leaving and I saw an opportunity to be a shark.
Or you have to get on the tank before he leaves.
That's a dream job, but I would have to be doing it with someone else's money.
Even if I imagined like I had all that money, I don't think I commit to a job where I have to pay people, you know?
Nobody like you technically would make money.
I would love to see a statistic of every shark, how much they've put out and what they've gotten back.
I'm sure it's all net positive because for one of them, for all of them, at least one has hit really big to negate all the other investments.
Yeah.
Like Lori will be in the green in eternity because of Scrub Daddy.
Yeah.
Now, I know Mr.
Wonderful likes to claim that he's got the biggest deal because the guys who came on for Plated didn't get a deal, but then he ran into them at a conference later, invested, and they sold to Albertsons for I think $3 billion.
No, it wasn't.
I don't count it.
It wasn't in the bills.
It was in the B's.
Yes, it was.
Plated Albertsons, yellow.
I don't think it was in the B's.
Maybe.
I thought it was in the 100 millions.
$175 million in cash.
Oh.
Is that what Mr.
Wonderful got, or that's the whole deal?
That's the whole deal.
Okay.
Oh, somebody else said 300 million.
Okay, but still, not billions.
Yeah.
I think he likes to consider himself like one of the biggest deals because of that, but I'm just, I love Mr.
Wonderful with my whole heart.
It doesn't count.
That's like saying Ring is the biggest product to come off of Shark Tank.
Well, that's different because they didn't end up getting a deal from any Shark Tank.
Right.
So it's like not a Shark Tank product.
But Playted did, but the deal wasn't done on air.
It doesn't count.
So neither does Ring.
No, I I would never consider Ring.
Credit for Ring?
No.
It's crazy that none of them gave him a deal.
Yeah, maybe I was getting confused because that one sold to Amazon for a billion dollars.
Amazon owns Ring?
Yes.
But Amazon has their own cameras.
Amazon has their own everything.
Who owns Ring?
Amazon.
Amazon.
Wow.
Like, that's a dream.
If we could sell to any company, it would obviously be Amazon.
Well, yeah.
Right?
Or Or like LVMH.
I think LVMH needs a podcast in their portfolio.
I'd have to think about it.
Because you have to think about like the other companies in their portfolio, like who you're going to get like staffing off
with.
Right.
No, LVMH is like so fancy.
I don't think LVMH is fancy.
I wanted to tell you something.
I fell down a TikTok rabbit hole, which was just perfect timing.
Me and Ben.
I'm sure I did.
And it was like perfect timing because me and Ben have been watching.
We watch Cossip Girl all weekend.
We're like halfway through season three.
And there was like a whole, a couple episodes about Cotillion and like Deadball.
And then I ended up on this TikTok rabbit hole.
Apparently this weekend was, I want to get the exact wording because you will love it.
Le Ball de Debutants.
In I think Paris, like the actual like debutantes of the world
all had their like coming out debutante gala.
And there were so many TikToks made about it.
So it's like princesses, heiresses from all over the world.
Like, there was one girl from America, she was so cute, and she's a descendant of Henry Ford.
Gerald Ford, what's his name?
Ford.
Ford Motors.
Henry.
Henry.
Was he also president?
Gerald Ford was the vice president.
No.
President.
No,
motor, queen.
Motor Henry Ford.
She was so cute.
Anti-Semite.
Henry Ford?
Oh, man.
I hate to see it.
They
ruined
everything.
A big fat ass.
Was he fat?
No.
Oh, just the anti-Semitism was.
Yes, yes.
I don't think if he was fat, I would have called him fat.
Because
he can be anti-Semitic, but I can't be fat phobic.
No, right, right.
It's so true.
And so they all wore like aut couture, like Atelier custom, and they were all just like beautiful.
And the gowns and they're all just like models.
It was honestly, I'll send you a TikTok of like all the looks.
And somebody somebody did like, here's who each of them are.
Like here are their parents.
Send me the assets.
Royal.
Oh my God.
What a fabulous place to have been.
That's so fabulous.
Please send me the assets.
I hope some love matches were made.
Though like, what is the point?
It's like them.
These are like aristocratic girlies who are like, there is actual society there.
So these type of events are archaic for us.
But for them, like they still exist in those types of like, you're coming out, you're eligible.
Yeah, I guess they still do that in America too, like a dead ball where you're coming out.
Yeah, but that one's like a little like pointless.
No, that's what I'm saying.
But this one's not.
Like now we know about all these girls.
Like they're, they're being brought to the world for, you know, dating for
right.
Okay, that's, that's really cool.
So please send it to me.
Also, speaking of Atelier gorgeous royal fashion, did you see black pink at Buckingham Palace?
I did it.
You have heard about it on the page.
You have to see their looks, Claude.
Google it.
Did you see some news that came out?
Was that Taylor Swift had, of course, I think we had assumed this.
She had been offered coronation and she said no for King Charles.
Why'd she say no?
I'm sure she's busy and/or disinterested.
But you know, she could get up there and sing, you know, I love a London boy.
I enjoy nights in Brixton, shortage in the afternoon.
He likes my American smile like a child when our eyes meet.
Dull and I fancy you took me back to Hiyat.
Met all of his best mates.
So I guess all the rumors are true.
You know I love a London boy.
Boy.
I fancy you.
She also could have swings.
She could have done that.
She was King of My Heart.
Oh my God, she could sing King of My Heart.
I have an eye twitch, sorry.
Like, I just need to hold my eye open.
There's so many songs she could sing.
I wish she performed.
And was she still dating Joe then?
Yeah.
By the way, this dumb question.
Did he already have his coronation?
No, it wasn't a coronation.
You were thinking of Jubilee.
No, but there was something that people didn't perform at.
Or did it already happen and we missed it?
Maybe I just didn't know.
No.
Was it not memorable?
No, there was like, yeah, he had.
Jubilee was one thing, which was amazing.
But there was another thing.
His coronation.
Yeah, it was in May.
Yeah.
And like
that's so crazy.
Like I don't even remember it irrelevant.
No, but we had so many conversations about like where's Harry Styles?
Where's Ed Shirin?
Where's Ed?
Adele.
Yeah.
But I felt like we had those conversations also about the Jubilee.
Oh, yeah, but the Jubilee was amazing.
Amazing.
It's how I felt about it.
And
also something else about Taylored that I forgot what I was going to say.
But I've really been enjoying the 1989 vault tracks.
Me too.
Would you say they're the best vault tracks?
It's really hard to beat red.
We'll take out all too well 10-minute version.
Okay, we still got
Better Man.
We still got Babe, which were songs we already knew.
We still got Message in a Bottle.
It's really hard.
But also, I've had way more time to ruminate with Red.
Ask me in a year.
Okay, I think the 1989 ones are my favorite, but I also didn't listen to Speak Now ones.
Not even all of fearless definitely all of red though yeah the fearless and the speak now ones in my opinion don't compete they're really good ones for me like when emma falls in love is so good but as a whole they don't compete with red or 1989 okay cool you didn't send me that tick tock i was looking for i know i forgot sorry i've been a little busy it's okay i'm sure you'll find the time
By the way, the breakout star from that Debbie Tomp ball I just found on my TikTok, her name is Lara Cosima.
Where is she from?
Now let me let me tell you exactly who she is.
But she's like viral now.
Lara Cosima Henkel von Donnersmark.
Does she have a TikTok of her own?
She does.
That's how I found her whole name.
She has 83,000 followers.
Oh no, that's on Instagram.
But I just want to know like who she is.
Yeah, and she has almost 300K on
TikTok.
Oh, here, yeah.
Hello magazine.
Best dressed at the Debutante Ball 23.
Lara Cosima was on there, but they'll tell me who she is.
Hold on.
Oh, yeah, Princess Lissy Selassie.
So many good people.
Yeah, Lara Connor looked good.
Is she American?
No.
She wore Carolina Herrera.
I think she is American.
Send me the link.
Drop a link.
Oh, my God.
Wait, I'm just reading about all the girls.
This girl, Lara Connor, she's stunning.
So Lara danced into the La Ball de Debutante in a colorful tool gown by Carolina Herrera.
The 19-year-old fashionista is currently pursuing a degree in government at Georgetown University, and her mother is a contributor at Vogue.
Lara's best friend, Patrick Bennett, is her cavalier.
King Charles.
Okay, so Countess Lara Cosima.
She's a countess, this girl who's like kind of the breakout star.
She wore Jean-Paul Gauthier.
Her gown embodied the signature silhouette of Gauthier's hoche couture.
Countess Lara Cosima is the daughter of Oscar-winning film director Florian Henkel von Donnersmark, best known for writing and directing The Lives of Others, which gained an Academy Award in 2007.
The 20-year-old, oh, she's German.
German star has built her own TikTok empire, gaining 40 million views.
Okay, she has 300,000 followers.
Let's just calm down.
Over two months.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Over two months.
Oh, she got popular on TikTok because she was doing like Day in My Life while she was interning for like big fashion brands.
Cool.
And she's a countess.
Where does the Countess Miss come from?
From the Oscar winner?
I don't know.
Also, the Archduchess of Austria and the Royal Princess of Hungary.
That's both the same girl.
That's her title.
Her name is Ildico
Habsburg.
Habsburg.
Lothringen.
She's an imperial and royal princess, embodied regal beauty in a petrol blue Alex Mobile gown.
She stepped into the spotlight wearing the Orleans tiara.
Oh, wait.
They keep saying Cavalier.
Oh, I feel like, oh, I feel like Cavalier is, we're thinking dog.
I think Cavalier is who escorted them.
Because the other one said Patrick Bennett.
I was like, wait, her dog is a first and last name.
So her Cavalier is HRH Prince Constantine de Orleans.
So Cavalier is obviously like your, your date.
Or your dog.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Can you tell me this link, please?
Yeah, it's so interesting now.
Yes.
Wait, I'm texting it to you.
I also feel like looking at the descendants of royals, not that we have that many, it's a good way to know what like the old royals used to look like because we don't have photos, but I'm sure some of them look like their grandparents or great-grandparents.
And then that's like a way to know what Cece looked like.
So Jasmine Yen of China, she wore an aute couture gown.
She's a musician.
She studied at the Berkeley Music College of Music.
It's just so interesting.
Oh, and there was a Jew.
She was my favorite.
Talitha Stern.
What color is her dress?
Black.
British debutante Talitha Stern hails from banking royalty.
Her ancestors can trace their roots back to 17th century merchant bankers in Frankfurt and have been founders and shareholders in leading banks.
God, this just reads like an anti-Semitism propaganda.
She's 17 years old.
She wore Christian Dior.
She's an avid ski racer.
Her proudest achievement to date is being named the Anglo-Scottish winner of both the giant slalom events in 2023, and she made it to the top 20 in the French national skiing championships.
Wow.
She's so cute.
She looks like a girl I went to camp with.
Who's a billionaire.
Isn't this interesting?
It is.
Oh, I guess there was more than one American.
The American I saw was Ellie McGaw.
Okay, who's she?
She,
I believe, is the
Ford.
She hailed her proudest achievements as winning the under-25 Racing Cars Grand Prix in Canada.
Her Cavalier is from Scotland.
He's a Marquis
of Lorne who wore his family kilt to the ball.
Okay, so a Cavalier is a human.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, no, I'm sorry, that wasn't Ford.
There's actually quite a few Americans.
Olivia Ford Uzzielli.
She wore Oscar de la Renta.
Her status is defined by her beloved grandmother, Anne Ford, a direct descendant of American inventor and industrialist Henry Ford, whose achievements are seen by many as the epitome of the American dream.
She was raised in Beverly Hills with her sister and her best friend Eleanor, who took part in the ball last year, and she now lives in New York City, where she is a student at NYU.
Wow.
No, this is just, I won't read all of them, but you should go down the rabbit hole.
It's extremely interesting.
I will.
I will.
And I want to see TikToks.
So let's consider that our fourth story, shall we?
No, let's not, because I have something to do.
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Our next story, a little update on the movements of one Taylor Swift.
She has flown back to Kansas City to visit Travis after finishing her Brazil Arras tour shows.
So after a rough round of Arist Tour shows in Brazil, the singer landed in Missouri on Monday to visit her boyfriend, Travis Kelsey.
She touched down at the private airport after taking off from Florida two hours earlier.
Florida?
Yeah, she must have flown from Brazil to Florida.
Maybe she needs to refuel?
Perhaps.
Well, you know what?
She doesn't have shows for a while.
And like, I think...
She needs to relax.
Like, she needs to just lay with her boyfriend, be in love, go out to romantic dinners in a small town.
It's literally a novel.
It writes itself while she recharges for the next couple of shows.
Like, I feel like it's been all about Taylor, you know?
So now let it be about Travis.
This is important.
We're almost coming to the playoffs.
Like she can be supportive girlfriend.
I feel like the timing's actually working out nicely.
And I don't think she has shows like until the Super Bowl.
Yeah, that's what I think too.
Now it's certainly not till next year.
So she's able to spend the holidays how she pleases.
Oh, where are they going to spend the holidays?
By the way, Christmas Day football is like a thing, right?
Or is it basketball?
Football.
Okay, so should we check his several?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm so hungry.
Wow.
Just felt like sharing.
Okay.
Do you think other people talk about like how hungry they are on their podcast?
Yes, certainly on Smartlist.
All they talked about was food.
Oh, and on good God.
Okay.
Okay, here.
December 18th, Chiefs Patriots.
At Patriots.
I feel like it doesn't say, but I feel like the.
Whoever goes second, I feel like is a host.
Oh, really?
I think it was whoever goes first.
No, because you say it, like,
how does it go?
Chiefs, then Patriots?
So you would say Chiefs at Patriots.
Okay.
Hold on.
When they played the Eagles, where did they play?
Philly.
And Philly was first in the
It says Eagles Chiefs.
So first place is where they play.
Look at us deductive reasoning.
I don't know if that, like, I believe that, honestly.
Like, that doesn't make any sense.
It's the opposite.
It's the opposite.
So it's what?
Who's home?
It's Kansas at Patriots.
Kansas at Patriots.
So you were right.
Yeah, I was right.
So then the Eagles played the Chiefs in Kansas then.
City.
Kansas City.
Missouri.
Okay.
Maybe I was wrong about that.
I don't know.
So Chiefs at Patriots.
Oh, my God.
New England, December 18th.
Like, that's...
Oh, they could go to Rhode Island.
Go to Rhode Island.
Oh, that's the perfect place to spend the holidays.
Yep.
Then December 25th, they have a
Christmas game, but it's at Kansas Kansas City.
Oh, okay.
So, like, the week before, but his and her.
His and hers.
Wait, that's that's what's so nice about having like such a robust real estate portfolio while dating an NFL player.
Like, oh, are we playing the Tennessee Titans?
Off to my mansion.
Oh, the Rams or the Churgers, or maybe even the 49ers, off to my Palache in Los Angeles.
All the New York teams, Bills, Jets, Giants.
I don't know about Bills.
It's a little far.
She's a plane.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bills, Giants, Jets.
How about even put like New England, Boston, Philly,
the New York area?
Philly, for sure.
But then, so Christmas game at Kansas City, so they could be in Kansas City for Christmas, and then New Year's Eve game at Kansas City also.
New Year's Eve.
December 31st.
Who the fuck watches football on New Year's Eve?
If it's a social media.
It's children are going to be us.
It's going to be us.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, and we'll all be together watching football.
Yeah.
We haven't watched football together in so long.
The boys are going to be so annoyed with us.
Okay, but you know what?
Ben was trying to explain something to me last night because we were watching this honestly terrible game, Vikings versus
Cincinnati.
Bengals.
Yep.
And so one of the teams was like down by three or whatever, but the losing team had three timeouts.
But so they like used the timeouts.
Ben was trying to explain it to me.
I don't understand timeouts.
Like, are they not just a chance to like get water and sit down?
No, they're like strategic.
You use them to like run the clock.
Yeah.
I so don't understand it.
Ben was trying to explain it to me.
He made it so confusing.
Like he, Jackie, he might as well have been speaking Chinese.
Like, I seriously did not understand one word he was talking about.
So I was like, I think I should ask Shapiro.
Like maybe Shapiro could explain it better.
So I'll ask him when we're all together.
Okay, cool.
Or if somebody wants to explain it in the comments, like I could not understand it for the life of me.
One thing at a time, Turdy.
One thing at a time.
Wait, so that's like such a fun end of year for Taylor.
Hopefully those are her
holiday house.
Yeah.
Kansas City.
Maybe Travis is in.
They picked out a home.
His new house already, maybe.
For sure, for sure.
Rich people move quickly.
Yeah, but they also like do work to the house.
Yeah, but Travis is not that kind of guy.
Like, oh, somebody built a nice mansion with a pool and a waterfall.
I'm moving in.
Totally.
He's the type who like literally brings a pillow and a toothbrush.
Yeah, let me pack my things and like his Louis Vuitton duffel.
Yeah, and like Taylor's so in love like she wouldn't care.
Yeah, but she's also like, you know, she's not gonna
add too much commentary at this point in the relationship.
She doesn't want to see him hate it.
She's just gonna go with the flow.
Oh, Trav, I love your house.
I love
it.
What a cute stripper ball.
Comforter.
Yeah, no, like no headboard?
Not a problem.
Black sheets?
Cool.
I love black.
Very reputation era of you, Travis.
Are you ready for our fifth and final story?
Some publishing drama.
You probably haven't heard of it.
I thought it was so funny.
Sports Illustrated is accused of publishing AI-generated copy and using headshots created by AI and publishing fake writer profiles.
So Sports Illustrated has been accused of publishing AI-generated writing while using headshots of fake authors and creating bogus profiles.
The Legacy magazine was called out for the content, which was allegedly written by non-existent authors.
Sports Illustrated said that the work came from a third party who assured their articles were written by humans.
An investigation conducted found that multiple authors with biography pages on Sports Illustrated website were fake, including made-up interests, hobbies, and even an AI-created headshot.
As well as the authors, some of the writing on the website's review page was accused of sounding like it was written by an alien with
bizarre descriptions and formatting discrepancies.
So some of the things that were found, Drew Ortiz, an alleged writer, had on his profile that he has spent much of his life outdoors and is excited to guide you through his never-ending list of the best products to keep you from falling to the perils of nature.
It's so funny when you read stuff that's like, and you realize it's AI generated.
It makes no sense.
What were we reading recently
when
we were designing our merch website?
Is that what you're thinking about?
There were just like some blurbs that were placeholders that were like clearly written by AI, they made no sense.
No sense.
In like the footer where you would normally put like your return policy, they just like put some words from it.
It was so much more.
Oh, no, wait, I think I
might, I must have screenshots.
They wrote something about war.
Did they?
Hold on, wait.
Yeah.
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Like, that's not a good thing.
And Things Toast.
No, by the way, I just want to say, like, I know AI is the devil.
Yada, yada.
Oh.
Doing collections, doing fashion is like a non-stop dialogue.
War taught me.
War taught me that not everything is glamorous.
Luxury will always be around, no matter what happens in the world.
I don't care about money.
I really don't care.
I just want to do what I do.
Facts.
I love to design things that people can actually buy.
I'm staggered what a boot.
I'm staggered by what a boot costs today.
What?
I'm obsessed.
And we thought AI couldn't write comedy.
Wait, I just want to say,
I know AI is like the devil, whatever.
A company like Sports Illustrated spending any money on writing is just a waste.
Like, no one's going to Sports Illustrated for the thought-provoking articles.
Like, they're going to look at pictures of beautiful women and, you know, sports stuff.
Like, I think it's fine.
Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue only happens once a year, though.
Like, the rest of it is about sports.
So, what's
the article is about sports, yeah.
I don't feel like that's like nothing.
No, no, no, it's like shockingly true, I think.
I think.
Like, go to sports.com.
Like, what's the basic?
Is it bikini models or is it
sportsillustrated.com?
NFL Power Rankings, Eagles 49ers headed for top two showdown.
What?
I'm shocked.
Yeah, it's all.
It looks like I take back what I said.
Oh my God, I'm literally shocked.
How irrelevant are they?
Like, in that regard?
They had people writing like articles.
I guess if it's like a recap of a game, like, okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But they got caught.
So it obviously wasn't very good.
It was kind of like our merch blurbs.
Yeah, yeah.
It was staggering how much a boot cost today.
Yeah.
By the way, it is staggering how much a boot cost today.
It was staggering how much everything costs.
100%.
Anyways,
so that's a little embarrassado for Sports Illustrated.
That is embarrassing, but I think this might be something we see a lot.
But like other publications will learn from this.
Like they they will proofread it and have like a copywriter make it look normal.
But AI is also getting smarter.
Like give them time.
Also, did you see the most recent AI drama?
We talked about this on the Patreon of Thanksgiving Day topics about Chat GPT, Sam Altman.
But then did you see this like letter that came out about Sam?
Oh, no, what?
Is he not the good guy?
I don't know.
It was like an anonymous,
no one tied their name to the letter because they're all like so scared of him, they say.
But they said like there's, but, but, but hundreds of other employees wrote a letter begging the board to put him back on They love him You just should read the other letter,
but like I'm I'm more inclined to trust a letter that's positive that's signed by so many people No, nobody forced them to sign this letter than one anonymous troll No, it wasn't one
It wasn't one.
It was just another side to I just said we said on the page I'm like there has to be more to this story like what did Sam so what did they say about toxic work environment so scary, you know, threatening employees blah blah blah
all that okay toxic workplace has just become like one of those words that lost its meaning.
Because there are workplaces that are incredibly toxic to be at.
But I feel like somebody speaking out, somebody got reprimanded.
Somebody got reprimanded once on Slack and they were like, this is a toxic workplace.
Like grow up a little bit.
So I need to know if it's a workplace that is toxic or a toxic workplace.
I don't know.
Fear of speaking out, retribution,
yada, yada.
All right, I'll have to read both letters.
Everyone has a letter to write to write and everyone has a letter to read.
But don't touch the Morgan ladders.
That's the first row of ladders.
The first row of letters is don't touch the Morgan ladders.
And if you can live by that, you'll be okay.
You'll be safe.
You'll be okay.
You'll make it through.
Well, we made it through.
A great episode.
So good to be back with you.
We're back tomorrow and the day after that and the day after that.
Only a couple more weeks before our end of season.
So soak it up.
Our last episode for the year of season six.
Is it six?
I don't know.
I think it is.
Yeah.
Let me check.
Right?
Maybe.
That's crazy.
That's like so crazy.
We'd be going to our seventh season.
And we don't like make up seasons.
Like people do like two months of podcasts.
That's season one.
No, season is a whole
10-episode season they do.
It's like so crazy because I remember when we started this season, because every time I wrote the episode, I had to like change from season five to six.
And I was like, damn, it's going to be taking me so long to remember to do this.
Were you able to find it?
I don't know.
I don't know.
We're doing a lot of like looking on our phones today.
We're finally doing what people want us to do.
Whatever.
So, our last episode of the year is December 16th.
It's slowly approaching.
So, just prepare yourself because we ain't back till the new year.
So, there'll be Patreon, of course.
Oh, yeah.
And this is a big one.
And we'll all be together.
Yeah, lots of content.
Yeah.
Lots of TikTok.
Everyone's getting at my TikToks.
I don't care if I have to drag them by their hat.
I'll work on my moves, the renegade.
Oh, yeah.
It's giving 2019.
It's giving TikTok.
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