What About Me?: Wednesday, October 4th, 2023

Good morning, Millennials.

Welcome back to the toast and happy Wednesday.

It's Hump Die back with Jackson Claude original recipe.

Hope everyone's doing well.

Hey, Jax, how you done?

Hey, La of the Turd Variety.

I'm doing well.

Thank you for asking.

Of the turd variety.

You know what's interesting?

When you ask me how I'm doing, I don't even take the time to think about the answer.

I just say I'm doing well.

Now I'm reflecting and I am...

I am doing well, I would say.

I, that's it, wasn't a genuine response.

You know what I mean?

It was ever, it was a robotic response.

You run into someone on the street, you're walking into a building, and there's you know, oh, how are you?

Never once have I thought, How are you?

I'm like, Good, how are you?

I could be having the worst, I could be on the verge of tears.

Like, I could be literally having the worst day of my entire life.

So good, how are you?

No, but every day on this show, and it's like I would tell you if I wasn't good, I don't even process the question, I just say, I'm good, and I throw it back to you.

Oh my god, this conversation is like really hard for me

because I was like, I had a rough morning getting here.

And I was thinking like,

like, I'm definitely in, like, you know, like, I'm in a little bit of a curt mood, you know, you could say, a little, feeling a little short.

And it's really all because of how I'm doing.

So if somebody were to really, really ask how I'm doing, I would have to tell you, which I, and it pains me to say.

I got my period this morning.

Is that why you're wearing that outfit to symbolize the color?

The new beginnings.

Yes.

I was like, I wasn't going to bring it up.

I really wasn't, even though I'm now like two years.

I'm going strong for two years every single month, telling everyone that I have my period.

But like you, you kind of brought it, you like, you, you brought it out of me, Jax.

You pulled it out of me.

I guess, I guess I did.

I guess I gave you the runway to tell us, for you to tell us in detail about how you're doing.

So I'll accept it.

I also feel like there's a difference between like, I feel like I don't need to know when every influencer is on their period and us knowing when you're on your period because like what we do here is so personal and every little change in your body is so germane to the tone of the show and the episode at the show.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Cause like I'm feeling feisty.

Like I saw like I was like triggered this morning by a TikTok.

Oh, no, no, not by a TikTok of a comment because I saw this TikTok yesterday that was actually like so speaking my language.

It was just about like this generation of what about meism where it's like people just make content on the internet telling talking about themselves, sharing their stories, their point of views, and somebody's always like making it about them.

Like this is offensive because I can't do that.

Yeah.

And I was like, I was, I've been thinking about that a lot.

And then I saw this comment today where I was yesterday on the toast with Jake Shane, which was such a fabulous episode.

We were talking about like, what is the etiquette going to be at the Eras tour?

And like, are people going to be singing and dancing and like taking videos in the theater?

Because I kind of like just want to lay down and watch a movie.

Okay.

And people, like, I saw like some feedback being like, well, you know, not everyone was able to see the concert.

I'm like, that's, that's okay.

Like, I was just talking about my motherfucking, like, what I would prefer.

That's, it wasn't an assault on anyone who wants to see the movie.

Like, now that I'm, that I saw this TikTok, like, what about me?

I think that's what, like, she called it.

I'm not 100% sure.

Like, what about me-ism?

I, that's, that's, that's my vibe today.

Like, what about it?

Not only is it so annoying when you say anything and then someone finds like, well, what about this or that?

Yeah.

But it's also annoying because I find myself like self-censoring and not saying something because I'm like, well, what about the person who this?

I'm like, yeah.

Just, can we talk?

Can we just have a conversation?

Can we just share and know that like I'm talking about my POV, my thoughts, my experience?

It's not an attack on you.

Yeah.

And maybe even you're talking about like the majority's experience.

And yes, there will be people in the minority who don't have that experience all the time or whatever it is, but it's like, damn.

Can we get out of the weeds?

Can we get out of the weeds?

So like, I'm just feeling triggered today and I'm feeling like I'm going to be a little bit rude.

And I wanted everyone to know, like, Claudia's not this wench.

She's on her period.

Claude, are we out of the weeds?

Yet, are we out of the weeds?

Yet, are we out of the weeds?

Yet, are we out of the weeds?

We're not, by the way.

Well, I guess I could one-up you in terms of non-ideal mornings.

Okay, now this is also another thing because I was thinking about this.

What about me?

As I'm, I've been watching Real Housewives of New York, and it's kind of, they should call it the real

housewives of New York searching for victimhood.

Like, they all have like really actually amazing stories about how they got to where they are and they're using it as a competition.

Like everyone's like, well, I only had $20 in my bank account when I came to New York.

I had negative 400.

Like it's not a competition.

We're all just sharing.

Yeah.

But continue.

Yeah.

So woke up for a feeding with Charlie at 5.30.

Damn.

Finally fell back asleep at 6.30.

Damn.

Harry woke up at 7.05.

Oh, fucking.

And we're off to the races.

Okay.

We could think about that.

We could think about how horrible that is.

We could.

Or we could think about the fact that we are less than a week away from your book coming out.

We could.

And Harry think about early because he was just so excited.

And I'm not even lying.

I'm not even lying because I would never like lie about what Harry's up to.

But this morning when I picked him up out of his crib, we sat on his chair and he said, counselor, that's him asking for counselor book.

So we could talk about that.

Or we could talk about the fact the fact that you're coming to New York and you're going to see your family.

Yeah, next week is going to be a great week.

And that is what is propelling me.

This has been the busiest week of my life, but I'm putting together so many fun things

for the launch next week.

So I have my book signing at Books and Greetings, Northvale, New Jersey, next Saturday, October 14th, 11 a.m.

Get your ticket, link in my stories.

You have to get a ticket in order to come.

You have to register, but you just get one ticket, bring your kids.

It's going to be so fun.

Does a ticket equal a book?

Ticket equals book.

Yeah.

Sign book.

I love when things are just like so clear like that.

Yeah.

So you'll meet me, greet me, sign your book, meet your kid, can't wait.

And then I'm also planning something in the city for the week of launch that is not going to be a book signing specifically.

You will get a signed book, but it's not going to be like that.

It's waiting in line.

It's more so an event like for the children.

So cute.

I'm waiting to finalize all the details and then I will share.

I'm just being vague because until things are final, I hate sharing because then they don't happen.

So I'm really excited about this event.

It will be different than the book signing on Saturday and it will be on Friday in the city.

I will be there.

Books will be there.

Fun will be there.

So if you're not in the tri-state area, get your book.

Pre-order it now.

CamperandCounsel.com.

It's available anywhere that you get books.

Please pre-order it.

I'm so excited.

I'm getting so excited to get books in hands.

It's fabulous.

It's such a big week next week.

That's why I actually am really glad I got my period this week.

That's true.

So I could really be fully present and positive for your big week.

So when you were saying yesterday that you weren't even feeling well and you think you're sick, was that just period talk?

Last night I texted Jackie.

I'm like, I'm not well.

Like something's up.

And my back was killing me.

Like kind of how you like get backaches and you get the flu.

Yeah.

And then I woke up with my period.

I'm like, oh.

Oh, so you're not getting sick?

I don't think so.

I believe it was my period.

Oh, good, because I was like, you're getting sick.

We're coming to town.

No, there's children involved.

That's not going to work.

Not to like kind of one up you in the victim category, but the air conditioning is not working in the studio.

Like it's hot.

So if you guys hear a little breeze on my microphone, like please just bear with me.

I need this little fan to keep me alive and kicking for today's episode.

We've already established that fan doesn't make a sound.

So

you are good.

Okay, good.

Then I'm putting it on a higher level.

So yeah, I'm going to be a CU next Tuesday today.

And I just feel like that's the vibe right now.

I'm going to try to keep my

emotions.

Emotions at bay.

Because you know what?

I wasn't going to bring it up.

Like, now I'm reflecting on my morning.

So back to the original question.

How are you doing?

You know, know, I'm fucking tired.

It's been a morning, not unlike any other morning, but just so many things.

It's just been a morning.

And this is why people don't share how they're actually doing because it's meant to be, hey, how are you?

Good.

Not a seven-minute conversation.

Good, thanks you.

But now you know, because we keep it real with you guys.

We are genuine to authenticate.

Authentic, authentic.

We are so authentic.

And, you know, this is not to say that, you know, us having difficult mornings is, you know, an assault on maybe what you went through this morning.

We're all just sharing our experiences.

Maybe someone nursed at 4:30 and their toddler got up at 6.05.

Maybe that happened.

Maybe.

So

shout out to you as well.

Shout out to everyone with every morning that could have possibly happened.

Shout out to anyone who's up and at them.

I just feel like there's people who could be offended by that.

Oh, you're right.

Because what if you're not up and at?

Okay, how about, okay, yeah, no, that's a good point.

Shout out shout out to the peeps

But what if people like lost their voice and they can't shout

Fuck um

Hope everyone's doing well.

How's that?

I don't see a problem, but you never know you never know

So that's how we're doing

But you know what?

I'm in the lead with well I'm doing well.

Thanks for asking.

Yeah, we're both doing really really well, you you know, given the circumstances

compared to what others, you know, might be dealing with.

What is good is that we're together again.

Original wrestling.

I know.

And we had an amazing episode yesterday.

Yep.

I was thoroughly enjoying it as I signed my book plates and wrote my little curds for my influencers.

I wanted to know if everyone else was cackling or just like noticing Jake Shane's laugh.

Like, especially if you were listening with AirPods.

He had the most amazing laugh.

Like, you know what, you have it too.

Like, as a person, you know, I'm speaking from my experience, as a person who, like, loves to make other people laugh.

We have to drop this shit.

I know.

I love to make other people laugh.

So I'm very, like, I'm actually always really aware of other people's laughs.

Taylor Strucker has an amazing laugh.

You have a great laugh.

Some people just give you a laugh that makes you feel so good about the joke that you made.

And Jake was one of them.

Like, it felt like a reward.

Like, he was putting money in my pocket, you know?

That's nice.

Yeah, you have that too.

When you, when you go full canine, like, we can see all your teeth and you're like,

you know that?

Yeah, like, you have a big, boisterous laugh.

Like, I see all of your teeth.

Show me your teeth.

Why are my teeth reminiscent of a canine?

Okay, don't be a victim.

Like, I was.

I know.

I'm kidding.

They are.

I'm a vampire.

Aren't teeth called canines?

I wasn't calling you a dog.

Another word for teeth is canines.

Excuse me?

In what language?

Wait.

I think you're trying to, like, just talk about my canine teeth.

Because I have fangs.

Wait.

Canine isn't a word for all all of your teeth?

Not where I'm from.

It's two of your teeth are named your canines.

Oh, I guess like your fangs.

Like you have fangs, molars, canines.

That's what I'm saying.

You were just talking about my fangs.

Oh, I really thought it was like a word for all teeth, my bad.

It's no coincidence that these pointed teeth are named after dogs.

They are called canines due to their resemblance to a dog's fangs.

I was going to say, our canines' fangs?

Because we got big canines.

Yes.

So when you said full canine, I knew that you were talking about my fangs.

It felt like an attack.

No, you know what?

I understand.

You actually weren't searching for victimhood there.

I was there.

I have found it.

Yeah, it's been found.

No, but it's okay.

I love my canines.

I actually have been like learning to love my teeth, except like, you know, with this recent weight loss, like so many things about my body are changing.

All of them good, I can't lie.

But one thing I've noticed about like my face getting smaller, I got some big gums.

I got like, I'm a gummy girl.

You know what I noticed?

Like now that I'm larger and I look back.

I thought you were saying what you noticed about me.

I'm like, calm calm down.

No, when I look back on like footage or pictures from when I was like small

that I have big teeth.

Like I, because now I can see that.

I don't agree, actually.

Now I can see myself

almost like a stranger.

I look at like old pictures of myself and I'm like, oh, that, let me like go over her.

I couldn't see myself before and I was a gorgeous girl.

I just want to say, I don't agree with that about your teeth.

No, but like my teeth did not look how I thought they looked.

But does nothing ever looks

like you think it's just commenting on our former selves.

Oh my gosh.

So I'm just sharing.

Are you sure you're not the one in your period?

No.

Jamie, not you coming for my period persona.

No, I'm trying to say like you don't need to make me feel better about it.

Like it's not a negative or a positive thing.

Like just my teeth were not what I thought that they were within my mouth.

Yeah, but you also have really big lips, which you're so blessed naturally to have.

And I feel like when you have big lips, like you can get away with anything in the mouth region.

I'll just keep my mouth shut, but that doesn't work with my profession.

No, or your personality.

No, I have so much to say.

As a critical thinker, you can't be closing those lips.

I've got to share my critical thoughts.

So true.

Well, I would like to get into the show because we have a lot to do today.

We do.

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Our first story, Real House Eyes of Beverly Hills trailer is here.

Mauricio is bringing up the Kyle Richards affair rumors in the Beverly brain

trailer.

And Kyle is bringing up the Mauricio

affair rumors like over the last, you know, 10 years.

Yeah, so there's a lot of talk about affair.

The trailer doesn't give us anything in terms of like, where are they now?

Was there an affair?

Are they

divorcing?

Morgan question mark, but there's clearly a pop in season within the ladies and then also this Kyle and Mauricio storyline.

Yeah, there's a new housewife.

Everyone else is returning except for Kathy wasn't in the trailer, but Kim was, briefly.

And no, Rena.

Is this our first season without Rena?

I think so, right?

Wow, it's been so, you're right.

Yeah, because that was last BravoCon where she got booed and then fired.

Wow, it's really been so long.

Shook.

The trailer looked amazing.

I'm so like back in my Bravo shit now.

It looked really good.

Beverly Hills really has never disappointed.

It's such a good franchise.

And

obviously, like the Kyle storyline is going to be the benchmark of the whole season, But there was also like a lot of other really exciting things going on, like Denise Richards making a return and her OnlyFans becoming a topic of conversation.

And Erica going for the juggular because obviously she will be, you know, standing with Rinna.

Okay, but wait, I saw, I don't know if this was real or fake, but I saw someone on Twitter saying that, so in the trailer, we see

Erica bring up Denise's OnlyFans.

Like, did you know you can get a naked bundle of Denise Richards photos for $7 on OnlyFans?

And apparently, I don't know if this is real or not, but apparently Denise responded, yeah, that's how I keep my hands out of the pockets of orphans and widows.

I hope it's real.

I hope it's real.

How would they know that?

I don't know.

Or it was just somebody being creative and saying, like, I wish that's what she said.

I don't know.

Oh, it's definitely that.

I know.

Like, really?

You're coming for someone's business.

Like, let's not.

Yeah, yeah.

Shaming a hardworking woman.

It's not a great look.

Also, Camille Grammer was in the trailer briefly.

She walked into that party, I think, for the first time we see Denise.

She comes in with Camille.

Yeah, but also, this is the first season where Erica is pretty much exonerated

and is back to doing Erica Tings, which I'm happy to see her doing.

And it looks like her Vegas residency is a part of it.

So I'm happy to get back to Erica Jane

2.0.

Yeah, like actually this is more like 3.0, you know?

Yeah, yeah.

But the major crux of the storyline and of the trailer was Kyla Mauricio.

It's still like extremely vague what's going on in real life now with Mauricio being in the news because he's on Dancing with the Stars twice a week.

They pretty much have confirmed their separation.

Which Jake had confirmed.

Yeah, I don't really know why it's been like such a confusing rollout of this.

I think they're confused too.

Like I don't think that they know what's going to be.

Maybe I don't know what's going on with Kyle and Morgan or not.

But maybe it's just something that she's experiencing right now.

And then she sees her future and you know her golden years with mo I don't know like yeah things look different for everyone so I think they're they're also figuring it out on the trailer it looks like they have a conversation with their daughters about the state of their family and their relationship which is kind of wild to have on camera but very honest but it also seemed like her and Mauricio every time they talk on camera it's like not very heated it's like they've kind of come to this sort of resolution and it kind of makes me think like the the vibe that I was getting was that over the years, like they've had infidelity issues and not shared them on the show or really publicly at all.

And like, this is just kind of par for the course, but now it's Kyle.

Yeah, but it also seems like maybe it's Kyle having an affair and wanting out of her marriage, as opposed to maybe Mauricio in his affairs, like, no, I still want my family and I want my wife, and she's like, want to have my cake and eat it too.

We can't know until we see.

When does the season actually premiere?

The season premieres on

Jesus October 25th at 8 p.m.

Eastern Time on Bravo.

Okay, thank you.

Like that's not that crazy.

Yeah, I hate when we get a trailer like six months in a second.

That's been happening more and more.

Like it's month of.

Month of.

Like that's all we ask for.

Thank you.

Yeah, I'm excited about that.

Also, I watched last night I started Southern Charm, speaking of Bravo.

Oh.

The first two episodes.

And I love Southern Charm.

It's my comfort show.

Even when it's bad, it's good to me because I just like the settings and the people.

But I feel like we've lost so many main characters at this point that it's a little untethered.

Like, who's gone?

I'm not going to go with who's gone.

I'm going to tell you who's still there.

Now, with the guys, it's always going to be Shep, Craig, and Austin,

Strong, and then, you know, you have Whitney somewhere.

But the girls, now we're just down to Olivia Taylor, Vanita, and Leva.

And

Madison and Madison, who's holding it down.

Wifey Madison is my favorite Madison.

But even Madison is like a relatively new engineer.

And it's like all of these girls, most, well, just Olivia, Taylor, and Madison came on as a plus one of someone.

Like it's not that they were cast themselves and they're great.

I love them.

But there's no Catherine.

There's no Naomi.

There's no Cameron.

There's no Landon Charles.

What about Danny?

No Danny.

Wow.

Yeah.

So I feel like that.

core of it is kind of missing.

And now it's just about the dynamics between Austin Taylor, Shep, and Olivia.

That's the main storyline and it's just not enough for me right now.

Interesting.

I feel that.

But I love all these people and I love the show and I'm going to keep watching, but I just need a little more.

And there's also not really girl drama because the girls I just described like are very amicable with one another and all came on as friends.

Like it's just not that crazy.

Yeah, no, that's interesting.

I didn't realize that Naomi had left because she was on last season.

Yeah, I don't know if she's coming, but I haven't seen a hint of her.

And there was no announcement.

Catherine.

We all knew Catherine.

Wait, there was no announcement about Naomi.

So I don't know.

It was just like a little sparse is what I would say.

But we did get Paige episode one.

Love that.

That was fun.

It's so crazy.

That crazy thing is crazy.

But like, I think that's the best of Bravo when like certain, when certain cast members from different shows very organically end up like the weirdest thing on Real House Eyes of New York, Erin throws herself like a 10-year anniversary party and Meredith Marx is there.

And it's just like, it makes no goddamn sense.

But it does.

Actually, it doesn't because this is such a new crop of women.

There's no way that they would have known Meredith because when they're filming this, like it's hasn't even been announced yet.

Yeah, no, they probably don't know each other from the Bravo universe, but they know each other from

being women of the world.

It wasn't believable.

I don't think that, like, it made no sense why Meredith missed it.

Oh, really?

That's like when you go back and it's like how Kyle Richards and Bethany are old friends.

Bethany used to babysit Paris with Kyle.

Like, that's just fun stuff.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But I think when it's like really organic, like Paige, like that's the best type of, or when the Vanderpump kids like went to Summer House for the weekend, like that was cute and fun.

So Paige really, I think, adds a lot to Southern Charm, even though I haven't seen the season yet.

No, and she doesn't want to be on the show.

Like, she's not on the show.

She doesn't hang out with the girls.

They were saying how, you know, now that they're spending more time in Charleston, she needs to make friends there.

She does.

But I don't think she's interested in really being on southern charm or else she would be if she wanted to she would and a reality show and she

is a lot like it's a full-time job it's also like very emotionally and mentally taxing so for your boyfriend to do it and then you have to do like a second job no like craig comes to winter house like i mean summer house one weekend a year yeah

it's enough yeah but the show like needs her they need well that's the thing when you're a star like paige you have to spread the seed you know you have to be

shine on everyone.

Yeah, it's true.

But yeah, no, it was nice to nice to turn my TV on.

Yeah, well, I'm actually really excited for Beverly Hills.

I love everyone.

And

like, that's exciting.

Excitement excites me.

Excitement does excite me.

And I actually really like this group of women.

Like, I know that there's going to be beef between everyone, but like, there's not someone I like literally hate.

No.

Like, she has her moments.

Sometimes, like, I really like Crystal.

I love Sutton.

I would take a bullet for Garcelle.

Like, I really, Dorit, like, is, you know, Dariet.

Yeah, like, you know, you could talk about her.

Like, like, like, I have issues with everyone, but at the end of the day, like, I really love these women.

Yeah.

No, it's going to be great.

I'm excited for that.

Me too.

Next, a little more content news.

As the Beckhams prove they're the best-dressed family in Hollywood at the premiere of David's new Netflix stock.

So David Beckham is the

source and and subject of a new Netflix docuseries called Beckham that will be a documentary about his life.

The whole family showed up to the premiere looking stylish.

Nicola and Brooklyn were there,

which was a big question.

Also, Romeo has a girlfriend and they took a big family photo that's just truly gargeous.

It's really interesting how they have like very slowly, it wasn't like an overnight thing where everyone became obsessed with the Beckhams.

Like we've known about them for years.

We loved the marriage and they started having kids.

And then the oldest one became somewhat recognizable.

It's been like a very slow burn for them to have become like one of the most famous families.

And it's not obvious.

It's not in your face, but it was a big week for Victoria because she had a show at Paris Fashion Week and all the kids were there, Nicola in the front row.

There was actually drama because Kim Kardashian was at the show and I guess she came late and they held the show for her.

But Anna Wintor is like sitting in the front row, visibly annoyed that the show is running late for Kim because she has a show after this and she's going like then it just delays her whole day like shows I guess usually run on time so there's a lot of people talking about like who was right who was wrong because there's a video of Kim like running in like so sorry so sorry this is supposed to be our next story oh fuck me in the ass okay everyone forget what I just said back to the Beckhams I I just love how they're like very slowly and I think very organically I don't think they tried to become this famous family.

I just think they happened to have famous parents that happened to give birth to very good looking kids who got into interesting relationships.

I've really enjoyed the the Ark.

Yeah, no, but it makes sense.

I feel like when they were little kids, they're too little to be

relevant.

Relevant and also like let kids be kids, but then they grew up and they also chose like careers in the public eye and they're gorgeous and they have this like lovely family and

we're ready for them.

But I feel like when David and Victoria got together in the 90s, you could have said like, oh, you know, their kids are going to be beautiful and I can't wait to see what their family does.

But they just had to like, the seeds had to

grow.

Yeah, that's so true.

Um,

and they both have done a really good job of maintaining their own personal levels of fame in such different categories.

Like, she's fashion beauty queen, he's sports king, and even though he doesn't play anymore, he's like one of the investors in that new football team.

Like, he's so relevant in his sphere, and so is she.

Yeah.

Um, but the documentary, I saw this on TikTok this morning.

The documentary is like making waves because I guess they address this famous affair that happened 20 years ago that I was not familiar with.

It was an affair rumored.

Did the affair happen?

Did they address whether or not it happened?

Because I saw headlines that like she addressed how the rumors really upset her.

Victoria Beckham spoke about the excruciating emotional turmoil she endured following allegations surrounding her husband David's purported affair with Rebecca Luce nearly two decades ago.

The alleged affair with David's former personal assistant was during his tenure with the Real Madrid team in 2003.

Rumors swirled and Victoria confessed those following months were perhaps the most grilling of her life.

In an intimate conversation during their Netflix documentary, she said, it was the hardest period for us because it felt like the world was against us.

We were against each other.

Up until Madrid, sometimes it felt like everybody was against us, but we were together.

We were connected.

We had each other.

But in Spain, it felt disjointed.

The profound pain from that period was evident, with Victoria admitting that she often felt isolated even from David.

Equally reflective, David struggled to find the words to depict that crisis in 2003.

remembering how they felt like they were drowning.

He confided, every time that we woke up, we felt like there was something else.

We both felt at at the time that we were not losing each other, but drowning.

As the world speculated, David recalled the daily agony.

I felt physically sick every day when I opened my eyes.

How am I going to do this?

He thought.

The Beckham's openness in the documentary seemed a testament to their desire for authenticity.

They believed they no longer had anything to prove.

Amid the Madrid ordeal, Victoria had remained in the UK to maintain stability for their sons, Brooklyn and Romeo.

This separation exacerbated David's sense of loneliness and isolation in Spain.

He recounted, I got sold overnight.

The next minute I'm in a city, I don't speak the language.

More importantly, I didn't have my family.

The couple's resilience, however, shone through.

David expressed how vital Victoria was to him, noting that they had to fight for each other and we needed to fight for our family.

As a part of the healing process, the family relocated to Madrid, bought a home, which Victoria took pride in, yada, yada.

So I guess they don't like address the validity of it, just like the scandal.

Yeah.

Okay, thanks.

Yeah, and at this point, they don't need to prove anything to anyone because even if he did hand them an affair, obviously they work through it and they are strong and the proof is in the pudding, but they didn't.

But that's also a testament to how long they've been famous because I did not even, I didn't know about these rumors.

No, me neither.

I mean, you were.

And I guess it was a big scandal when we were nine.

You were seven.

Yeah.

Nine?

It was 20 years ago.

You think I'm 27?

She's 2003.

Oh, I thought you were born in 96.

Sorry.

94.

Oh, I wish a girl can dream.

Nine.

Nine.

Oh, my God.

Nine.

I've been reading way too many World War II books.

Yeah.

Well, I'm going to watch this.

I'm really in my sports doc era.

Yeah.

And I'm realizing why I'm interested in sports documentaries.

It's because I don't know shit about any of these things.

When they come out with documentaries about celebrities, like you think I would care.

There was just one on like Kanye and Kim.

They do like every Bravo star gets one.

And it's like, I don't watch it because we lived it and I know what it is.

But with these sports ones, like these are incredible stories about incredible people.

And I have no idea what I'm gonna hear next like it's exciting it's actually so crazy when you think about documentary culture like we live in a documentary obsessed like every minor and major scandal becomes a documentary like we know it's gonna happen as it's happening the way that E dropped the ball so fucking hard with each your Hollywood story like that should be like the biggest and the best most

uh like revered source for documentaries but they totally dropped the ball and then they brought it back and it was crap it was crap it was like concept

docu.

Yeah, like it was like Nexium.

Fame in the age of social media.

Like, yeah, no, you had a good thing and you ruined it.

Yeah, I don't know how they didn't become like the go-to.

It's such a recognizable name, like the e-true Hollywood story.

If you go back and watch like any movies or anything, like from the 90s, it's always being referenced.

I don't know how they fumbled so hard.

I don't know.

Damn.

Well, as a network,

they have a few flops.

Yeah.

But this, I think, will do well.

It's on Netflix.

I'll check it out when I have time.

I also need to watch the Kelsey documentary.

There's so many.

I was just having this conversation.

I went out to dinner last night and we were talking.

I was like, what are you guys watching?

And everyone's watching like every sports documentary.

They're like, did you see Breakpoint?

That's the tennis one.

Right.

Full swing.

The golf one.

Kelsey Brothers.

Hard knocks.

There's one about the Jets.

There's one quarterback.

Yeah.

Oh, that's what we were talking about.

We were talking about the quarterback.

There's also the untold one about the swamp, the Gators, the apparently

untold, like that's the most recent untold something about the Florida Gators.

I forget.

Something about the swamp.

Is it about Trek?

It could be.

It might be about Tim Tebow.

There might be a little Tebow in there.

Throwback Thursday.

But it's not just about Tim Tebow or else I would have already watched it.

Throwback Thursday.

Like, I don't understand how you go from being like one of the most spoken about, sought after quarterbacks in the NFL to briefly playing major league baseball and then being unemployed.

Like, I don't understand how sports work.

No, I can understand how you go from being in the NFL to playing baseball, but then where are you now?

Like, where, what sports are you doing now?

I don't know.

That's there.

A lot of untolds are like that.

Like, people who were huge had like a huge big career and moment and then

gone.

Like, Johnny Manzel.

Man Taito.

Man Taiteo.

Actually, it was just the one-year anniversary of when I I got you a cameo for Manta Teo.

So it came up in my time hop.

I'm like, honestly, that was a great gift.

It was a great gift.

Oh, no, it wasn't the one-year anniversary.

I got Ben a cameo for his thing for

our anniversary, so I had to re-download the cameo app.

I'm like, oh, what else is here?

I had Carlin from Wheelhouse of Salt Lake City who got you a cameo, Manta Teo, and now Lewis Litt.

Honestly, trifecta.

Yeah, I would say Carlin was the most enjoyable.

Your favorite cameo.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

Okay, our next story that Claudia teased, but Kim Kardashian ticked off Anna Winter after holding up

Victoria Beckham fashion show.

It's hard not to say Victoria's Secret fashion show.

Honestly, by the way, did you see the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show?

Yeah, we talked about it.

It was like...

No, do you know that it premiered?

Oh.

Like a couple days ago?

I thought we talked about it.

No, we talked about how they had this big party to like.

announce it and it was in partnership with prime video was like really copying everything brianna did with Savage X-Fenty.

And it came out and like nobody knew about it.

And then I saw some clips on TikTok and it looked demonic.

Like it was a community theater.

Everyone was like wearing like it was like skits.

I don't know.

That's weird.

It's like they wasted the good PR on the event.

On the event.

Yeah.

We wasted the good surprise on you.

Yeah, that was the, that was harking back to that.

Yeah.

We wasted the good surprise on you.

Okay, well, Kim left Vogue boss Anna when tour ticked off when she turned up late to the Victoria Beckham fashion show.

Sources confirmed to page six.

The reality star was a guest of honor at Victoria's Spring Summer Show in Paris on Friday at the former home of Carl Lagerfeld.

One onlooker told page six, Kim was super late.

Anna was pissed because the show was delayed until Kim arrived.

Anna left before Victoria even did her walk in front of the guests after showing the collection because she was late to other shows.

Kim, who was clad in a purple gown, arrived with Chris and was seated next to Anna.

And then another insider said, the Kardashians fashion show routine is to keep everyone waiting at least 50 minutes before making their entrance.

But there's a video going around of Kim sitting down next to David, and it looks like she's saying, I'm never late.

And she's like very frazzled that she was late.

Yeah.

Thankfully, like there's a lot of content that we can like extrapolate context clues from and make our own assumptions and not this just being like a rumored.

It's a rumored that Anna was very mad.

Like we see Kim like runs in, says hi to David, who's sitting next to Anna.

She skips over Anna and then sits down.

and when you could see her she's definitely saying I'm so sorry.

I'm never late.

And one thing we know about Kim actually, I don't know if I can speak for like all the girls, but Kim is like super professional, very Christian or like hardworking, nice to everyone, always on time, do fulfill your duties.

That's like her whole shtick is like about how her work ethic is half the reason she's as successful as she is because she doesn't play games like that.

So

sometimes like things happen.

Like people are late.

Things happen.

There's traffic, you know, elevators broken.

Yeah.

I think also at the level that they travel and move through the world, like just things are slow when you have a motorcade and a team and you're correcting your look down to the very inch every minute.

So I understand there's nothing worse than that feeling of being late when you're not a late person.

Like being late gives me so much anxiety, especially when you're pissing off Anna Winter.

So I think Kim just has the biggest pit.

Yeah.

And I'm sure this is something that probably sets her back in her high fashion journey because I don't think Anna liked this.

And it didn't seem like there was reprochma after like no she left early like things aren't good let me ask you a question

you are debuting a show at Paris Fashion Week it's a huge huge event for your brand and you can either impress Anna Wintour or impress Kim Kardashian

who do you think is more powerful

it depends who you're trying to serve if you want to serve the mass like you want the masses to like know about your show Kim because honestly I didn't see like one other celebrity photo i don't know anyone else was there aside from kendall walking right no and like her family uh nicole nicola romeo brooklyn honestly i follow nicola and i you know follow pop culture i didn't see nicola at the show yet like i know she was there but it hasn't dominated the way kim in this purple dress has yeah of course no and kim looks beautiful one of her better looks agreed and also kendall's walking in the show and like chris is her manager i think that like there's a lot of ties there.

For high fashion, you want to impress Anna, but if you want people really to see what you're doing and you want to sell dresses, you want to impress the Kardashians.

Right.

No, it's actually crazy because this is like really all Kim has ever wanted.

Like I,

people might say this is like the dumbest thing I've ever said, but I do believe in terms of like actual power and influence in fashion, like Kim and Anna are on similar levels in terms of their power.

Yeah, but also, but they're different in terms of who they influence.

Yes, it's different power, but like they're kind of on the same level.

Like Anna influences the industry.

Kim influences the people.

Yeah.

What's more valuable?

I don't know.

It depends on the, who you're asking.

Yeah.

The answer is different depending on who you ask

and what they care about.

And like, it is annoying when people are late, and especially like if it fucks up your whole day afterwards, because like Anna coming to a show is like such a big deal.

But I just feel like Anna's always got a mug on her face, like a smile.

Ever heard of it?

But I also feel like Anna

always looks upset, but maybe not always is, you know.

That's very true.

I feel like it's kind of a cliche at this point, and it's because she has the sunglasses and the hair and like the movie that came out, Devil Wears Prada.

But I could also see her kind of just being like a normal girly

sometimes.

Yeah, like maybe she's just got a good old case of RBS.

Like, I'm not always mad.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But it is pretty prestigious that Anna went to to the Victoria Beckham show.

I know.

So I'm glad it all worked out.

Now everyone's talking about the show.

I think it's good.

I wish her well, Victoria.

She designs nice stuff.

She does.

And she's like stayed, you know, elite and sophisticated for many, many years, which is hard to do as like a brand.

Yes.

Like it's, she has got a reputable thing going on.

She does.

I need to see what Nicola wore.

I'm glad that everyone's

appearing

supportive.

Yeah.

Nicola Pelt's Beckham Show.

Yeah, it's not even like the first thing that comes up.

I'm telling you.

I saw a bunch on TikTok because so many people just take videos.

You'll see it in a few weeks on Reels.

Stop.

No, my Reels.

I don't get served a lot of like celeb content on Reels like that.

My Reels are very like curated creator videos.

And like Mama Ticks.

Yeah, Mama creator videos.

Such good stuff, you guys.

Such you can learn so much on reels.

Are you ready for our next story?

Yeah.

It's a little more Kardashian news because I watched the episode of The Kardashians.

And so we need to talk about this group chat nonsense.

Okay.

So Courtney Kardashian shuts down Kim's group chat claim that there's this no Courtney chat with friends where they send things about Courtney.

They submit their complaints.

Complaints and concerns.

And then the sisters have to like parse out what's going on with Courtney.

So I think we've all pieced together what's going on here because Courtney posted a screenshot of a chat with her friends, Allie, Simon, and someone.

Oh, Pip the Rip.

Simon's husband.

Saying, should we start a Yas Courtney group chat?

And basically all the friends are making a joke that there is no no Courtney chat with her friends.

They weren't a part of it.

So I think

Kim was talking about a chat with her sisters called No Courtney, where they talk about what friends have said about Courtney, but there's not a chat with Courtney's friends called No Courtney.

No, Kim was like pulling things out of her ass like for the sake of an argument, which we've all been there.

Yeah.

You're just like making stuff up when you want to be right.

It was really mean.

And

I'm Team Courtney on this one.

On the No Courtney chat or on the whole fight?

On the conversation.

Like up until this point, I could have argued both sides with the Dolce thing.

But the thing is, it's not about the Dolce thing.

And it probably never was.

Like, these are two people who have a deep, deep dislike of one another and, like, a distrust.

And so, now that we're slowly starting to get to like what the real issue is,

Kim is being mean.

And she's taking it too far.

And bringing in the kids is mean.

That was so mean.

And that was so next level.

And I felt like up until that point, Courtney really like remained cool, calm, and collected.

But there was no reason for her to do that.

I don't know what she's trying to prove.

Like, I just, I found her to be like a very unsympathetic character.

Like, I couldn't take her side.

Yeah, I agree.

It was too much.

And I guess Courtney was saying that's what they do in their family.

They just like think of the meanest thing to say, like, for argument's sake.

Right.

But it's not effective.

And that's a problem.

It's not effective.

And certainly not effective when you are sitting there filming a television show because I know you're also thinking about like public perception.

And that just like doesn't reflect well.

on me.

It was just like Kim kept saying stuff and it was just kind of bouncing off of Courtney.

Like she was just maintaining the fact that she's really happy and she doesn't feel like Kim can be happy for her and everything she was saying wasn't penetrating until she brought in the kids.

Yeah, my only question is if it's an issue between Courtney and Kim, like why is Courtney so estranged from the whole family?

Like why is Kim on that trip with everyone?

That's not a question.

Well, I think first of all like the dynamics of the family are always shifting, but I think like Kim is really like the center.

Yeah.

She's like the communication center of the family.

She's the control center.

Like she is like so close with everyone individually and like is always the one making plans.

Like I think like sisterly dynamics, which we understand, I would see you're a lot like Kim in that situation.

Like you're always the one planning shit and making sure we're on top of shit.

Like if we want to plan something, like we go to you.

So I think like sisterly dynamics are important to keep in mind.

And I think Courtney is at the place now where she's like actually happy staying back.

Like she has her kids and her stepkids and her husband.

Like there's so much for her to stay back for.

She doesn't even care.

Yeah, she doesn't even care.

She doesn't have FOMO.

And I think also over the years that we saw in the end of Kardashians, it was like her struggling with not clicking with her family anymore, but having this obligation to film and be a part of the show.

And I think probably for financial reasons too, like she needed to work.

And now she has her husband and she has her life.

And it's like she doesn't.

And honestly, like Poosh's is a legit business.

Yeah, but I think even if she decided like, I don't want to film and I'm not going to work, like Travis can provide for her.

So it's not as

critical

as it was before and she can like make choices for herself and what brings her peace and that's really how she is you know doesn't want any toxic elements in her life so she's happy to make peace with all of it and when she used to say like that i was like okay sure like stop being so miz but now i feel like she says stuff like that and she actually really means it yeah Yeah, like she would walk away from the show and she would walk away from all of it and she has what she needs to live a happy life.

And when she says like, you're such a narcissist, like you're so obsessed with what people think about you.

And like, I don't give a fuck.

Like, take my parts out of the episode.

Like, let everyone think.

I actually believe her when she says that.

Yeah, I agree.

So, I don't know.

She made a really good case for herself by, like, not, she, she didn't even do much.

She wasn't even on camera.

She wasn't even on camera.

Yeah.

But it seems like they have this really bad conversation

and then they're able to build up from there because they start filming together that behind the scenes stuff.

She, I guess we'll see.

She missed that trip.

No, but I think from here they move forward.

Really?

Yeah, I feel like that was, the editing was a little confusing, but.

Yeah, when they sat down for the confessionals together.

Yeah, because I think after the bad conversation that they referenced, which we saw, they realized that things went too far and they try to work back from there.

Yeah, no, and like sisters need to do that.

But I think when you look at it at a glance, like these are two people who are so different, who have, who value such different things, who really don't like each other.

Like if they weren't related, they would never be friends.

And I don't think, you know, this is the end of it.

Yeah.

Also, as they get older, they're just continue to grow in different directions, and that those directions are further from one another.

But still, you can be sisterly.

Yeah.

But they're just like not as close as they were.

Not at all.

Yeah.

Wishing them well.

Wishing them well.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

Yeah.

Because it's got to...

Are you?

Yeah, I was just going to take my charger from from my computer and put it on my iPad, but it wasn't as seamless as I was hoping it was gonna be.

So I get it.

It wasn't, it wasn't seamless.

So I gave up on the effort.

I have enough to carry us through, though.

Don't worry.

The NFL explains why it removed Taylor Swift references from their social media channels amid accusations that the league is enjoying chief success now that Popstar is dating Travis Kelsey.

So the NFL is getting like a little bit of backlash for going too

hard in the paint with Taylor's version.

Not in the paint.

Right?

That's the phrase.

You know what I realized?

That's a basketball term.

My postpartum.

Oh, no, that's fine.

Is it too hard in the pan or too hard in the paint?

Paint.

Oh, okay, good.

Because I've been getting my sayings like all mixed up with my postpartum fog.

So

feel free to correct me if you hear me speaking nonsense.

Okay, because up until this point, like you've been telling me, like, you're postpartum not to come for you on your flogs.

Okay, don't come for me.

Okay.

But if I say unless unless I send phrase wrong.

If I say a phrase wrong, you can just give me a gentle nudge.

Okay.

Yeah.

Anyways.

It's a slippery slope.

The NFL went hard in the paint with Taylor references, changing their bio, changing their Twitter cover photo, just like obsessing over Taylor.

And I think a lot of NFL fans are anti-it, but also now people in general are being like, stop being so thirsty.

Yeah, no, the NFL fans can eat my ass.

Like now it's just like, be cool, my God.

Like they're acting like they're not the NFL.

Yeah.

So they now took away those references and they said, quote, we frequently change our bios and profile imagery based on what's happening in and around our games as well as culturally.

The Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey News has been a pop cultural moment.

We've leaned into it in real time as

it's an intersection of sport and entertainment.

And we've seen an incredible amount of positivity around the sport.

Who did they say this to, like in a statement?

To the New York Post.

Why are they acting like so tacky yeah like no like why does the nfl have a mouth yep and why are the why does the nfl have a mouth and why are they running it

close your lips to married men like stop yeah

no they're acting thirsty i agree like it is too much i loved it in the beginning when they were like getting involved in a fun playful you know way but like literally

They're acting thirsty.

They're doing way too much.

And now it's like not fun anymore.

Yeah, it's like, you know, the teacher's in on the joke.

So it's like, we're not laughing with you, bitch.

We're laughing at you.

So stop.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It was like cool when they did, then they acknowledged it like a little bit.

Yeah.

But now it's like, be cool.

Seriously.

Like, you're a serious Fortune 500 company.

Like, stop the nonsense.

No, no, you're layer, like, you generate billions of dollars in revenue.

Like, act.

Stop acting like you, like, are Claudia and Jackie.

Stop acting like me.

Yeah.

Literally.

I'm glad that they addressed it.

And honestly, like I hope they chill out because it was becoming like a little not fun when everyone was like, even the NFL likes stuff.

Yeah, but what do you think about how many times they panned to her during the game?

So I think it was like, that's five, 17 times.

And Travis heard that.

And he was like, that's as many down.

That's once a down, pretty much.

Or something.

The thing is, if they weren't panning to her, they'd be panning to like a fan.

They show people in the crowd all the time.

So it's not like they're taking away from the game.

So if you're going to show someone in the crowd, please show the most famous person there.

Yeah.

They need to have like fan fan cameras like they have at award shows so the people who just want to watch her can watch her and the people who want to watch football can watch football and see football bannering actions because sometimes you know but also but also like taylor should be able to enjoy the evening out without being on a three-hour camera feed like that's insane she essentially is because people have their phones up at her like the entire time she is being watched and she knows that she knows it yeah like every word that comes out of her mouth she knows could be like lip red like she has to be she has to act right and i guess she could always like turn around into the box and do what she wants to do, take a shot.

So what I was watching her the whole time.

During halftime, she went inside the box, nobody could see her, and she didn't come out for like a little while into the third quarter.

Like she probably wanted to, I don't know, like slouch and relax.

Slouch.

Slouch.

Chew with her mouth open.

Yeah, live.

Yeah.

Chew like she has a secret.

Chew like you have a secret?

Great reference.

Thank you.

The most amazing news, Jackie, is that today's episode is far from over.

I'm so happy to hear it.

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Jacqueline, that's beautiful.

All right, Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment.

We do it every Wednesday where you guys write in.

You can either email us, dear toasters, at gmail.com, or head over to our website, the toastpodcast.com.

There's a submission box.

Both are totally anonymous.

You can write in about anything.

Try and keep it brief.

If you've written in and we haven't read it online, it might be too long or it might be boring.

Sorry.

And we do three submissions every week.

Are you ready, kids?

Aye aye, turdy.

I can't hear you.

Aye aye, turdy.

Oh,

our first submission is about a girl who's in a bit of a pickle and we're kind of to blame.

We're a pickleball?

We're kind of to blame for her issue.

I don't believe it.

Kind of needed advice, kind of just need to unburden myself.

Okay.

Because of the toast, I always say, love ya, bye, to all of my friends as I leave their houses, dinners, et cetera.

Well, I've been dating this guy for one month and it's going really well.

But last night after we hooked up and I was leaving to go home, I went into autopilot and said, love ya, bye.

He didn't even acknowledge it.

We just kept talking for a little and had a normal combo over text once I made it home.

So I'm not sure if I should address it or just let it lie, but so embarrassed.

Okay, this reminds me of a show.

I can't remember what the show is, but like the people are in a relationship and like the girl says like love you to the guy.

And then he starts to realize that like she says it to everyone and he like doesn't feel so cool anymore.

So he just needs to hear you like on the phone with the pizza delivery guy.

Thanks.

Love you.

Bye.

On the phone with your therapist.

Love you.

Bye.

Until he realizes that he's not special.

And I'm also, I am sorry, you know, that that, that we caused that to happen for you because

I'll take that on the chin.

I, you know.

But I also need to know the intonation in which you said it.

I think she said it.

I think she said it like we said it.

Love ya.

Bye.

Like if you said it, you're fine.

You're fine.

Like it's clearly

tongue in cheek.

Yeah.

You just need to make sure he hears you say it to everyone.

Yeah, no, or talk about like make him watch a clip

and then where we say love you bye and then be like, oh yeah, that's why I'm always saying that.

Like I love these girls.

And maybe, you know, share it with a couple more friends and get the toast really popular in your neighborhood.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You just have to like subliminally

or

overtly let him know that it's something that you say to everyone and that you got it from the toast.

Like, honesty is the best policy.

Yeah.

Honestly, like, yeah, kick it into high gear just to prove he's not special.

Yeah.

Easy.

But I am sorry.

That's the thing, Jackie.

We're so catchy.

Like, we're so, everything we say is like so

ubiquitous in people's lives.

It's actually becoming an by the way, this is an issue that I have myself because usually when I'm on the phone with anyone, like pretty much all family, like I always, or friends, love you by, like, always.

But then sometimes, like, I'm on the phone with a restaurant, love you by.

no if I had been listening if I had been listening to the toast in high school I would have told all my teachers love you by it's so true

so honestly thank God to all of our high schoolers like stay safe out there yeah it's an issue that I have myself as well that I have to keep in check but I do a pretty good job of like switching my mind on and off between people that I love and that I don't love.

Yeah.

And that I like.

I know it's hard.

And that I don't like.

And that I hate.

Yeah.

That I don't know.

All right.

Our next one.

Hey, Jackson Turd.

My boyfriend of two years recently took me out to celebrate my 23rd birthday we're the same age we're saving money it's definitely our number one priority right now since we only graduated college a year ago we were having such a nice night until the bill came the look in his eyes was pure fear since it was more expensive than our usual dates and he asked if we could split the bill on my birthday i started crying in the middle of the restaurant because i was so mortified he felt bad and paid the whole whole bill but not happily there's been unspoken beef between us ever since what should i do sincerely a toaster who likes to be taken care of i understand that's sad why what i don't don't understand is why there's beef.

Like, if he understood that he fucked up and fixed it and apologized, you should be able to forgive him.

Like, I understand why in that moment it was upsetting, but he did the right thing.

Why is there beef?

Like, why is he mad?

I think she means more so tension.

Like, they have something about it.

It feels unresolved.

So resolve it.

Like,

if there is tension on both sides and it's not just you feeling some sort of way, which I understand if you would feel one way, but like, why is he feeling a way too?

You guys just need to resolve it.

Like, you can totally forgive him.

This is a forgivable offense.

And at the end of the day, you didn't wind up paying.

I'm sorry.

I have like a very hot take.

What?

She's wrong?

No, she's not wrong.

But you're going to cry in the middle of a restaurant because like that's really, that's really immature.

Honestly, like it's, it's really unfortunate.

It's really unfortunate, but to cry, like, I don't know.

I think that's a little crazy.

First of all, emotions aren't always logical.

You can't help if you have an emotional reaction to something.

And like, maybe it's a deeper issue, But, like, she wants to feel special.

It's her birthday.

And she, and she felt like, you know.

No, and clearly,

I can understand that.

He didn't prioritize spending more on her birthday.

No, not even that.

He should have known in anticipation that this would be a little bit more pricey in, maybe, like the couple weeks prior, just to put some money aside.

Like, he wasn't thinking of her.

Like, I assume that's why she was crying.

No, I think she was crying because she didn't feel special.

And she just, like, you know, it's, we're working really hard to save money.

And that's stressful stressful enough but it's like my birthday and now i'm just like going dutch like come on that would just bring us yeah bring a tear to my eye honestly and maybe it's like a bigger issue about her not feeling special enough more often perhaps but perhaps i don't think like it

i feel like you could cry about this without being like a big baby who cried in the middle of the restaurant like sometimes something hurts your feelings and hits you sideways and there's no explanation it's just like i want it to feel special it's my birthday like don't ask me to split it you know by the way i agree actually Actually, you've changed my mind, but you know what else I think it is?

Something about saving money is so unromantic.

And I think it can take away from like this specialness when, you know, we were all raised on like fantasies of princes and, you know, princesses and having everything done for you and you being completely taken care of.

But that's not what real life is like.

And that's not what, you know, how we actually end, you know, end up falling in love and getting married.

Yeah.

And the same, and it can be stressful too.

And so like to be reminded of that, like on your birthday, it's just one day a year where you just like want to feel special, want to feel like there's no limitation to what someone will do to make you happy.

So I can understand it being a bummer, but now, but you need to be able to forgive him because he didn't realize that in that moment and he's sorry and he paid.

So you guys should just have like a conversation about it so that you can move on from it.

I agree.

You change it.

Not the end of the world, but you know, a bummer.

Our third and final submission is an update.

So I'm going to read the original submission.

Hey, Jackson Turney, I'm a Gen Z toaster who found you guys through TikTok clips, and now I listen every single day.

You guys are getting me through college.

So I'll get straight to it.

There's this guy who I've been hanging out with for a while now, and I'll go over to his apartment.

We'll watch shows.

We'll go get food.

I also spend the night regularly, and he's the one who asks me over, so I don't feel like I'm overstepping.

The thing is, this guy has just not made a single move.

He wants to be around, and I can tell he enjoys spending time with me.

He's seriously a PJOM, and he's also super shy.

Like, it took me a while to even get him to see a more open side to him when we were...

we were hanging out and when we go to sleep he gives me my space and we genuinely just sleep he only kissed me once and it was when we first met and he was drunk.

But after that, he's just comfortable hanging out and just talking without intimacy.

Don't get me wrong, it's not awkward at all.

We have an amazing time, but how do I break through the cycle of friend zone?

Thank you guys so much, okay?

Yeah.

Here's her update.

Here's an update on the shy guy from literally April.

I would hate to leave my favorite ladies hanging.

A few days after you guys gave me advice in April, the shy guy made a move.

I think it was because I changed my body language, like you suggested that I do.

And then a few weeks ago, shy guy officially asked me to be his girlfriend.

I'm very happy, and he's still very much a PJOM, if not even more.

I believe our advice at the time was like, we're so accustomed in like movies and TV shows, like so fast.

Like we're all, we're all like a, we live in like a kind of like a greedy age.

It's like, why don't you enjoy this, this slow process?

But also give them a little, you know, shake them titties a little bit.

Yeah.

Make yourself let him know that you're ready, but it's not a bad thing to not be so fast.

Patience is a virtue.

And this girl shook her titties and was patient and she got a bad thing.

And you're building a solid foundation for a relationship.

It's true, actually.

Like you guys probably know each other so well.

Yeah.

And so once like the intimacy comes, then like boom, you're together.

Whereas I think most of the time intimacy starts first.

It's so, it's nearly impossible to like get to know someone.

A lot of times they don't want to get to know you.

Vice versa.

And it doesn't happen.

So I'm happy for you.

You know, good things come

for those who wait.

Traditional cute love story.

Love that.

I'm obsessed.

I hope he pays for dinner on your birthday.

Me too.

Those are dear toasters.

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And our website is the toastpodcast.com, both anonymous submissions for your girlies.

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Bye.