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Good morning, Millennials.

Welcome back to the toast.

Happy Thursday.

Congratulations on making it to the latter half of the week.

It's a great day.

Happy Thursday, everyone.

Yippee.

Hey, hey, who's that?

Who's that girl?

La da da da da da da da.

Hey, Jax.

Hey, turdy swirty lirdy.

What's going on?

Nothing much, my swirly girly twirly.

How swirly are you feeling today?

A little swirly.

A little swirly.

Did you have a nice evening?

I did.

You know what?

I wanted to tell you.

So Taylor Strecker's birthday was last night and her wife threw her like a really

queen-like birthday event and I think like you should adopt it for your next birthday.

It was so you.

Tell me about it.

So maybe not all parts of it.

So we got there because you're not, I don't think you're gonna like the first part, but we got there and we did like cocktail hour.

They have like a really great apartment, like nice fireplace.

It was not big.

It was like really close friends and family.

And she had her favorite magician come and like do not magician, like mentalist, do like cool tricks on everyone.

And everyone was like gagged, like screaming while in the kitchen two chefs prepared this beautiful meal Um so maybe not I know I know you're not like into like mentalist magician things, but like it was a good like I don't know it was fun like kept cocktail hour fresh mentalist greater than magician.

I will say but no, I don't like Things.

I know, but I do think you would have been impressed with this guy.

I had met him once before he was at Brian's baby shower His name is Phil and he'll have you know, he'll take two people in the room who like do not know each other.

He'll ask one of them

Think of the name of like a friend's pet, like something so random, something nobody in the room would know.

And through asking various questions, he would figure out the name of the pet.

And then also at the same time, so it was Taylor's brother who thought of like his childhood friend's pet.

And then he asked Bo, Stasi's husband.

These two people do not know each other, like personally.

And he was like, look up any celebrity on Wikipedia, like yada, yada.

And he gave him like a certain criteria based on some of the things he had read from Taylor's brother, whatever.

The dog's name was Calvin.

Bo had selected Calvin Klein.

Whoa.

Yeah, it was like really kind of spooky.

It wasn't even so much magic.

It was like, it was cool.

Yeah, no, mentalism is cool.

And mentalism is cool.

And then we just sat down for dinner.

They had like this really beautiful long table set up in their apartment with like candelabras and flowers and there were candles all over the apartment.

And we got served this like hella fancy meal, caviar, seafood towers.

Hella fancy.

tomahawk steaks.

And Taylor went out of her way to get kosher meat delivered from Park East for me, Ben, and Margo, which was

so nice.

Cause like all of our friends now we're kosher, and like whenever we do meals, there's always like a substitute, you know, like a vegetarian or a fish, which is great.

But to get to eat the same stuff as everyone else, oh my God, it was, it was overwhelming.

And they had like a bartender.

It was like really, everyone got dressed up.

It was like really elevated.

And I was thinking, I'm like, this is what Jackie needs to do for her next birthday.

Okay.

So I will do that for my 31st.

So come on down.

100%.

I can have everyone stay with me.

Yeah.

You could have like, you know, a jazz trio in your foyer or something.

I know.

Jazz trio.

That's what I need.

A jazz.

It's a trio.

You know, you have a house.

We could eat it outside.

Like, yeah.

It was really, it was like a gorgeous event.

It's really gorgeous.

I'll start making arrangements.

Thanks for the idea.

Yeah.

And like the long tablescape filled with like, and she like had said something.

She made like a little speech.

She was like so happy, like people from all different walks of her life being together.

It was like really nice.

It kind of of felt like a rehearsal dinner nice yeah just an idea throwing it out there 31st appreciate it what are you gonna do for your birthday turdy oh you know me i i have this very complicated push why don't you do that for your birthday yeah actually maybe

you have a nice terrace in your building

yeah i wonder if they'd let me I wonder if they'd let me.

If you ask in advance enough, which like now is in advance.

Yeah.

No, I mean, I can't start.

I'd like my birthday is one of the worst and best days of the year, you know?

That's so turdy.

No, I think a lot of people relate to that.

I don't think that's a turdy exclusive.

Okay.

Wow.

The judgment in the pause.

I was just going to say something else.

I was just going to take nantangent and like, okay, period.

I'm not going to come.

I'm not going to conflict with you, turdy.

I'm not going to do it.

You're not?

But you'd love to.

No, I'm not.

I'm not going to do it.

You know, sometimes like you don't have to say everything.

That's something I definitely have learned as I've gotten older.

And I'm still working on it for sure.

But whether it comes to like a conversation with human beings or something on the internet or just like something I want to post,

you don't, you don't have to say everything.

Yeah.

So that's how I feel right now.

Like, you know what, Turdy?

Walk in your truth.

Oh, that's like you calling me delusional, but okay.

No, no, that's me having watched the rest of the Kelsey Ballerini interview.

And towards the end, there was a lot of that.

I have to remain true to my journey,

like her career.

It's like, girl, you're a success.

Like, just say that, you know?

Yeah, totally, totally.

And she's walking in her truth.

And I'm walking in Turdie's Truth today.

Okay.

Walking in, walking in Turdy's truth.

Turdy's Truth.

That's such a good song.

Yeah.

So let's see what Turdy's Truth brings us today.

Well, Turdy's Truth yesterday brought her a flight to Vegas.

I wanted to update everyone.

I got an aisle seat.

It's all the way in the back.

I'm not thrilled.

I'm not thrilled, but I got a seat.

So I'll just, I got to take like a Klonopin or something.

I got to go get a prescription for something strong.

You have a Xanax laying around, a little

rogue Xanax, one of Theo's, perhaps?

I don't have a Rogue Xanax lying around.

You wouldn't know what to do on a Klonopin, Turdi.

You've talked such a big game.

I wouldn't.

And you're so paranoid.

You think Turdy's going to be in the back row alone on a flight taking a narcotic for the first time?

Yeah, no, I'm not going to take a clon of pin.

No, you're right.

You call me out hard and I agree.

Like that's not, that's not even remotely true.

She'll be taking a half of a half of Theozamics.

No, I'll literally be taking like a half of a half of Benadryl and being like, it's not working.

But I am excited to fly Delta.

This is the first time I'm flying Delta since my special is available on the in-flight entertainment.

So that I'm really excited to see.

I wish I was seeing it from, you know, a Delta comfort seat or a first class seat, but it's okay.

I'm excited.

Yeah.

If the special's any good, you'll forget where you are.

You'll be transported.

I could watch it over and over.

And next thing I know, I'm in Las Vegas.

Right.

And I didn't even notice that I'm smooshed.

Viva, Las Vegas.

Viva, Las Vegas.

Viva,

Viva, Las Vegas.

I love Vegas so much.

It's just like so sad.

Cause I told you a number of times like I wanted to come.

It's so what?

It's sad because I told you a number of times I wanted to come on your trip with you.

Yeah.

And you just like,

were like, yeah, cool.

Sure.

I was like, I said yeah, come.

You didn't like me.

Like I know you won't.

You had feeds.

You didn't send me anything.

Like I could have been there.

Like, but ask a follow-up.

You have to be there.

Like you weren't actually going to come.

Ask a follow-up question.

When are you flying?

Saturday.

Why not Friday?

It's like a really long story.

I'm not going to bore everyone on that.

That's what I'm talking about.

That's what I'm talking about.

Like, I just felt uninvited, honestly.

Oh, my God.

Victim mentality.

Okay, Morgan Evans.

Uninvited.

Oh, we're going to talk about Morgan Evans today because the wheels of this story just keep on turning now, don't they, Turdy?

They do.

So we also, we have a great show because there is some news, a little extension from yesterday, the Kelsey stuff.

But then also to pick up where we left off yesterday,

we didn't have time yesterday for Deer Toasters, and I had three really good submissions picked out.

So we're doing it today so we can really dive in, help the girls.

The girls need help.

Yeah.

And I'm excited.

I fucking love deer toasters.

Yeah, I'm excited too.

And we have some really good stories that I think are going to spark interesting dialogue.

So without further ado, to do to do, here are the fast five stories that are going to spark interesting dialogue that you need to know.

Am I ready for these stories?

Sure.

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Thank you so much, Turdi.

I just wanted to pull something up because it's germane to the first story, which is about the big story of the week, more news coming out.

Page six reported yesterday that Kelsey Ballarini allegedly cheated on Morgan Evans with Drew Taggart from the Chainsmokers.

While Kelsey Ballarini and Morgan Evans' divorce has resulted in a he said, she said situation, page six can exclusively reveal what allegedly happened before the former couple's marriage fell apart.

An insider claims to page six that the country pop songstress cheated on her now ex-husband with the chain smokers member Drew Taggart in August 2019 at Lollapalooza after having collaborated on their hit 2018 track, This Feeling.

But page six says that Kelsey didn't come clean about it to Morgan until 2021.

We're told the alleged why.

Like,

that makes no fucking sense of that.

We're told the alleged affair combined with other issues led to Kelsey calling it quits with Morgan last summer and, quote, blindsiding him with her decision.

Nobody's reps have returned comment okay i have many thoughts the first is

i don't believe this for a multitude of reasons one the timing is so suspicious like and i feel like morgan i don't know if he necessarily planted this but like oh it comes out right after call her daddy like okay two that other part about it happening in 2018 and her not coming clean till 2021 let's say for real she had like an affair or just cheated one time and they got divorced in 2021 or like the marriage no sorry they got divorced in 2022 in august So like six months prior.

Like, why would you come clean at that point?

Like, the marriage is already, it's clearly ending.

So, like, what's the point?

Maybe to like show that

how checked, like, he didn't even know.

I don't know.

I have so many thoughts.

I don't know what I believe.

I really don't.

But I feel like I've been having a few internal arguments with myself.

First, of course, when this dropped, your initial inclination is like Morgan's team dropped it.

Yeah.

But I don't know if I believe that because I don't know if Morgan's team would go to page six.

Like he's from Australia.

Page six is a very national, if not local, publication.

Like I feel like he would have gone to TMZ or the Daily Mail, just something.

Like I, I feel like people in Nashville don't really put much stock in page six.

Like it's really like a New York socialite.

Like yeah, like

I just don't think that's where he would go.

So I'm like, I don't know if it was him.

Also, there was a Dumois blind a while ago about this rumor that now Dumois has revealed is the truth.

I'm inclined to believe that it's not true because that would make Kelsey like an actual psychopath.

Yeah.

Doing an interview about the truth of their marriage, not sparing one detail when she missed a whole part of the story.

And I don't think she's a psychopath.

I do not.

Agreed.

I think the Dumois thing makes me less inclined to believe it.

Yeah.

Honestly.

I kind of agree with that.

And also, I feel like there's a chance that, and someone wrote this in the Toast After Dark, that she had said that they went on breaks, that they separated.

Yeah.

And there's a chance that during one of their separations, who knows what the rules were, that she hooked up with Drew, but that she wasn't cheating on Morgan.

Like maybe Morgan hooked up with someone and like they were separated and they, it wasn't an affair because the rules were established.

That's an amazing call.

Like everything you just said, like I wish those were my thoughts when I first started speaking.

Like you're, everything you said is 100% right.

And again, like you're, you're right.

If let's say this was true, she had this like long-standing affair and then she was out here doing interviews and writing EPs.

Like it's such a crazy thing.

And let me tell you something, not to brag.

Like I know Kelsey Ballerina.

I've actually known her for years.

We're good friends.

She ain't fucking crazy, you know?

No, that would be truly psychotic.

Psychotic.

Especially because she doesn't owe us the truth of her marriage, but like she sat down and told us the truth of her marriage down to like, you know, the night she slept on the couch.

Like.

if an affair was part of the dissolution of the marriage, that would be something to mention.

And by the way, you know, when Morgan Evans was out here writing that song that started this whole thing, I feel like if there was this big affair and he had known about it, there would have been some sort of allusion to that, like some reference, something.

Yeah, but I think that perhaps if it, if sometimes where there's smoke, there's fire, so like maybe the part of this is true, but everybody is speaking, it's the truth.

It is true that Kelsey, say, for example, I don't know that, I don't know what I believe yet.

It is true that Kelsey and Drew hooked up.

It is true that she did not cheat on Morgan.

It is true that this affair had literally nothing to do with the end of their marriage because it was in a time of separation where they would have been separated anyway what everyone chooses to do at that time is what they choose to do at that time it but i would say if all of that is true it would have been worth mentioning on the show during our times of separation i actually connected with other people which showed me what i could be having with someone else yeah or none of it's true Or none of it's true.

It's like such an obvious like thing, you know, like they had a song together.

You know what I mean?

Like, okay, they had a song together.

You could do a song with someone and never even meet them, like, for real.

So that doesn't mean you're spending late nights.

For sure, they did get a little specific.

Lollapalooza, August.

They're giving us time and place.

Yeah, okay,

they performed it together.

Like, I don't know.

It's just an uninspired.

It's an uninspired rumor.

I stand with Kelsey.

Hashtag, I stand with Kelsey.

So you don't believe this?

No, no, I really don't.

I'm inclined not to believe it.

on its face either.

And I don't even think that's just my bias.

I think it's like really,

I don't believe it.

And again, honestly, the second that was like Dumois blinded him reveal, I'm like, oh, okay.

Yeah, like it could have been the same person who sent this to Dumois who told it to page six.

And that person could be a liar.

Right.

And that person could have like ulterior motives.

Yeah.

Or thinks they know something that they don't know.

Right.

So I'm,

I'm, I'm not, I'm not living for this.

I'm not believing it.

And I do not think Kelsey is psychotic enough to do that.

No, that's like diabolical behavior.

And I don't think, I know that that's not what we witnessed, honestly.

No, I agree.

Like, she was really like emotional during the interview.

There was like tears.

She laughed, highs, lows.

Like, that was a real human being, like, going through.

That was not like something a serial killer would do.

I totally agree.

Like, I just, I'm not, I'm not believing it.

Okay.

So that's where we'll stand on this.

Yeah.

I wonder if anybody will

speak on it.

Speak out.

Like, I wonder if Drew's like, the fuck.

You know, I feel like Drew's like always getting dragged into like these random PR things.

He's just like kind of like an obvious choice.

Yeah.

Like the Selena stuff.

Like, I don't know.

I feel like,

I feel like he kind of likes it, especially.

I think the chain smokers are about to have like a major comeback.

They did take some time off.

So I think any press for a chain smoker right now is good press, especially this is harmless.

You know, for him, it's like, yeah, party boy, yeah, with a married girl.

Like, it's not damaging because it's very much a part of their brand.

So I don't think he's mad, but it's just like, for me, it's like, I don't know why.

It was like, obviously, Drew.

Like, I just feel like that's his shtick.

Yeah.

I agree.

And, but honestly, there's no one who could like come out and deny it that I, that would even like change how murky I feel about it, unless Morgan said it's not true.

Right, right.

You know?

Yeah, but Morgan is like very slowly becoming the villain in the story because Kelsey's album is so popular.

And that interview was just really, it was,

I think people felt a lot of empathy for her.

Okay.

She's, she's coming out the hero.

Yes.

And I just want to read this hot take from Toast After Dark, our Patreon Facebook group, because someone made a really interesting point that made me see the whole thing like a little differently.

And it's just worth mentioning.

This is from Alexandra.

She said, this is a hot take.

It's funny because I don't really have a side.

I agree with Claudia and Jackie that

in divorce, both sides are each, both sides are to each other equally the villain.

But I definitely was leaning more towards Kelsey.

The more I think about it, though, if the roles were reversed in this situation, I think people would be responding totally different.

Like if kelsey was the less successful one wrote a song about the breakup of the relationship and then morgan the big star in turn wrote an ep made a music video and then did a deep dive interview on the private details of their relationship no one would be celebrating morgan like they are kelse

that is fair but you know and they would be praising kelsey for getting half the house yes no you're a hundred percent right but that's why and i feel like i've kind of been very clear about this from the beginning like i am not a feminist like

yeah it's different because she's a woman and you know what we are different from men and you know what i'm okay with that like i yeah you're right it would be different but i'm not an equal opportunist right so i'm okay with this but how are the equal opportunists feminists feeling wearing this how to themselves like why are they upset that he got half the house like if a if it was the woman like and she got half the house not even half of his big lucrative career i'd be like okay

yeah no you're right if If it was opposite, I would have been like, yeah, Kelsey deserves more, but it's not opposite.

And women are different.

And we are not the same.

And it is different.

Like, ew, you're going to take money from a woman?

Like, yikes.

Like, we're different.

You know what?

And I'm okay with that.

Like, let's stop pretending.

Okay.

Anyways, I thought that was interesting.

No, it's a conversation definitely worth having.

But I also don't find Morgan to be a villain in this situation at all.

Me neither.

But for people who don't

know him prior and like this is their first introduction, I think for a lot of people, they're just not taking his side.

Yeah, I'm not taking a side.

Like, I don't think there's a side to be taken.

Like, really, nothing crazy happened.

Yeah.

Really, nothing crazy happened, everyone.

They just grew apart.

They didn't have enough to keep them wanting to fight for this relationship.

And at the end of the day,

she didn't know if she wanted kids anymore.

Like, that could happen in any relationship where two people get married, they want a family, and then seven years go by.

And like, if the woman is like, I don't know that changes a relationship of course

done period no like doesn't even matter about the cmas in the couch at that point no you're right like it's not really about sides it's just not hearing everyone out not for me it's honestly just about the human experience for me and about the nature of relationships but then also sprinkled with a little bit how success and hollywood and fame could impact those things yes for sure that's to me it's just all about the human experiment called life.

Jackie, that's beautiful.

Thank you, Turdylicious.

You're welcome.

Next up.

Little me.

Actually, we have two mean girls drama stories today.

Like the movie or like girls being mean?

Both.

Oh, is this Kylie, Selena?

Kylie, Selena, Haley.

They're all in it.

Kylie Jenner denies silly rumor that she and Haley Bieber dissed Selena's eyebrows.

Kylie Jenner is setting the record straight on speculation that she and Haley shaded Selena's eyebrows.

The star, Kylie, called the rumor silly in a TikTok comment on Wednesday.

She said, This is reaching no shade towards Selena ever, and I didn't see her eyebrows post.

You guys are making something out of nothing.

So, Kylie posted a series of Instagram stories yesterday, like close-up of her eyes and eyebrows.

One picture is like a little funky.

She goes, This was an accident.

Then we get Haley's eyes and eyebrows.

And then it turns out that actually Selena had posted something of her really overly laminated eyebrows saying like, oops, I overly laminated my eyebrows.

So people thought like Kylie and Haley's videos after that were like mocking like Selena's new crazy eyebrows.

But I didn't even think Selena's eyebrows looked that bad.

The way these three TikToks had absolutely nothing to do with each other, not Kylie's to Haley's, not Kylie's to Selena's.

And

honestly, here's what I've learned because this is like the second time this week we're even talking about this because

a few few days ago, people thought one of Haley's TikToks was a reference to Selena's getting body shamed.

And then totally separately, Haley had used a TikTok sound that's like, I'm not saying she deserved it, but God's timing is always right.

Which is just like a funny, cute sound that's gone viral.

There's like over a million uses of that sound.

Had nothing to do with Selena.

Selena's fans thought it was like, you know, Haley commenting on, you know, Selena deserved to get body shamed.

And then Selena commented, like, oh, it's okay.

I don't let stuff get me down.

Like, kind of agreeing that

victim mentality.

And now I think because Selena commented that on that old, that thing last week, her fans are looking for more stuff to see like people coming for Selena.

So in a way, like I do feel like Selena definitely fed the fan

flamed, fanned the flames of her fandom last week.

And now that's why they're coming for Kylie and Haley again.

And no one was coming for anyone.

Not one of these things is actually like a legitimate reference to anything Selena has done.

And honestly, this is just like the toxicity of fan bases getting out of control again.

Yeah.

Also, like Kylie's been posting a lot of stuff of close-ups of her eyes.

I think she's coming out with a mascara.

So I think.

Yeah, they're doing a Kylie Cosmetics like relaunch.

I think that all the photos were meant to highlight eyelashes, not eyebrows.

And she's in front of her ping screen.

I think she's doing like a video with Haley.

I don't even know.

I can't even try and understand what they're trying to do, but like she runs a makeup company.

I wonder if Kylie and Selena, like obviously Kylie's friends with Haley, so she's team Haley, but like Kylie and Selena have their own little beef about like who's the number one beauty guru in this group.

So I actually, not until five seconds ago, thought about that too, like that they both have these competing, really successful, like billion dollar makeup brands.

I actually don't think they compete in the sense that like they're actually really different.

Dirty.

They compete.

If an alien came down to earth, they would say these two things are the same.

I know, but the way we didn't even think about the competition of their brands until right now i feel like really highlights how different they are i feel like all the time when we talk about how kylie cosmetics is out and rare beauty is in like we always talk about that but let me just say in terms of like actual competition rare beauty is a sephora exclusive brand kylie cosmetics does not even sell at sephora they sell like everywhere else direct to consumer ulta um it's also i think like a little bit of a lower price point and like aesthetically like

rare beauty is very like glowy dewy natural clean girl.

And Kylie Cosmetics is very like

colorful, color pop, almost like

more out there than like that subdued.

Honestly, it's more dated in a sense.

Like that's what makeup used to be, like crazy color palettes.

And now everything is like neutral and sad beige.

And that's very Rare Beauty.

Yeah, but at the end of the day, like if I want to do my face fill of makeup, I can get the products from Rare Beauty or Kylie Cosmetics and I'll pretty much look the same.

It's just about how they package themselves.

Like Kylie's very much like glam makeup, Instagram makeup.

Rare beauty's like, you're beautiful the way that you are, but here's a little makeup.

Yeah, when I say if you could do a full face of Rare Beauty or a full face of Kylie Cosmetics, what would you do?

I think

Kylie, because I like a little more coverage.

Okay, I like 100% would choose Rare Beauty, which is like so crazy to think about.

Pretty, we should do a vlog.

You doing a full face.

That's the thing.

Kylie doesn't even have foundation.

She doesn't have like a full.

Yes, she does.

Foundation?

I'm pretty sure she has concealer.

I mean, now her website's down, of course.

Oh, wait, no, it's back up.

It's back up.

She has concealer, but she does not have foundation.

Let's go.

Let's go.

Face.

Blush, bronzer, highlights, setting powder.

It's not like a concealer.

But where's concealer?

And I know they're in this like rebuilding phase, so it's maybe not fair to compare, but like I definitely think Kylie Cosmetics definitely dropped the ball in a major way.

They were like, you know, really on the the cusp, the cutting edge of everything.

And then they just kept doing the same thing and like didn't evolve with trends.

Like that cut crease green eyeshadow look is like not what people are into anymore.

It's very much like the Charlotte Tilbury rare beauty, like glow,

shiny, like dewy look.

And honestly, I wouldn't even know how to do that with Kylie Cosmetics.

They just like kept doing like Grinch collabs.

Yeah, but that also could be Cody, you know, and whatever

things they need to check off their list.

Yeah.

So they are in competition.

No, they are.

You're totally right.

Even though I don't even think it's a competition right now because like rare beauty is supreme.

No, but don't count out the Kylie.

No, I won't.

And I'm sure, I know they're in this rebuilding phase, even though it's been taking like a hella long time.

And I hope that she's, she's like always been on the cutting edge of like trendy makeup.

So I don't know how her makeup brand doesn't reflect that at like at all.

Yeah.

They definitely need to like step it up.

Cody's like kind of fucking it up and like dropping the ball with the Kardashian brands.

Like KKW Beauty was like reformulating, literally never came back.

It didn't?

No.

I thought it came back recently.

I don't think so.

kkwbeauty.com.

It's like not loading.

Right.

So it's like, what the fuck are they doing?

They spent $2 billion on those brands and

what?

I don't know.

So that's a conversation worth having.

And I feel like actually, if I wasn't doing this for a job, I feel like I could actually like do a really good job working at Cody and like strategy for these brands.

Like I, what would your strategy be?

Like they need to get with the times.

Like it's so dated.

Like for me.

For sure, but like how so?

Specifics.

Okay, so Kylie needs to like drop this like very Jeffree star

like

aesthetic.

It's very like colorful and pigmented.

And I think even when that was the vibe, I don't think the formulas were that great.

And so she really needs to like evolve a little bit in terms of like what the makeup trends are right now, which is like more glowy, more dewy, less full coverage, more fluffy eyebrows and neutral tones.

And actually, KKW Beauty was doing that when they were in

stock, but it was like a little, honestly, a little too before the trends.

And people have said that like the KKW, everyone was like guffawing over Kylie Cosmetics.

Like real makeup experts know like the KKW Beauty formulas were the best, like so good.

But like

everyone was like the packaging wasn't great and everyone was like obsessed with Kylie at the time that they were like not noticing KKW Beauty.

Yeah.

So I don't, I don't know honestly how the two brands are going to exist if they are.

They should really

Cody should should

merge them.

Yeah, but like what about people like me who like still to have coverage on their face and don't all of a sudden like want to be looking like, you know, the end of a doorknob.

Shiny shiny i feel like you have like a really big misconception of what like the the current trend is it's definitely more natural but it's still like hella full coverage

for real like i know you think like rare beauty is like a dot on your face no i have i like the rare beauty products that i use but i use them in the way that i use kylie stuff like i look like

highlight that's what that's what everyone does Most people aren't like wearing no makeup.

It's just like, it's a lot of makeup to look like you're wearing less makeup.

That's like the trends right now.

Got it.

I don't take trends with my face.

Okay.

I don't do trends with my face.

I do what looks best for your girl.

100%.

And I'm not alone, but I'm also not everyone.

So by the way, back to my original point about the Selena fans here.

I just feel like they are really toxic.

No, they need a life.

They need a job.

They need a hobby.

These people have too much time on their hands to evaluate every video compare it to the other one

just like get off the internet these are like the fans that like bullied haley bieber into doing an interview like these are the fans that jelly like these are those people and honestly like selena engaging with them and like agreeing with their yeah haley's coming for me like really is like feeding the the farm animals, which you're not supposed to do.

And I feel like it make, it makes them even more empowered to keep going.

And that's what's happening now with Kylie.

They really need to stop.

No, but also like if Haley and Kylie ever are shading Selena intentionally, like I'm not going to believe that that's what they're doing because like it's like the boy who cried wolf.

No, and it's like, let me see it.

If I ever, like, I'm, maybe they would.

And I'll take a look and see if that's what they're doing.

No, I'm just going to assume that the Jelena stands are reading into something because that's what they're always doing.

Selena's been like kind of going rogue on social media recently.

Yeah.

I think these comments, you know, being like this victim, me victim are in line with her going rogue on social media.

Yeah.

just like take the phone away yeah yeah yeah

are you ready for our next story yeah mean girls drama the mean girls stars original stars may not return return for the new movie over disrespectful money offer So Original Plastics, Lindsey Lohan, Rachel McAdams, Amanda Sayfried, and Lacey Shabbert have all agreed to return for the new Mean Girls musical movie, but talks have stalled over Paramount's disrespectful money offer.

The stars of the original 2004 classic have remained friends throughout the years and were willing to return for the film, which is bringing the Broadway musical version of Mean Girls to streamer Paramount Plus.

Quote, the production source says, Paramount Pictures doesn't want to pay the girls what they are worth.

All four girls are willing to come back, but Paramount has not been respectful of what they are worth.

Page six is told that Rachel McAdams, who played Regina George, was initially offered a larger part than the other, a larger sum to play

a part in the movie than the others, but the deal had not been signed off.

And as of now, all negotiations are stalled.

Tina Fey, who both wrote the movie and musical, is reprising her role as maths teacher Miss Norberry.

She has reportedly signed a seven-figure deal for her acting role.

She's also writing and producing the movie, while the girlies were said to be offered a fraction of that.

I mean, it's so interesting because I think if they want to

negotiate well, they should really all be negotiating like as a team.

Even though, like, why would Amanda Seifreed and Lacey Shaber get the same, like in this current, you know, climate, get the same

pay?

It's actually crazy when you think about, like, how that film launched, really launched Amanda Seafried, Rachel McAdams.

Lindsey Lowen was already a star, and then she went on after that to be like just as big of a star as everyone else.

And, like, Lacey Shaber kind of got left behind.

Like, she's out here doing Hallmark.

She's a queen of Hallmark.

She's a queen.

I'm just saying, like.

She's a queen of Hallmark and Rachel McAdams is the queen of the Oscars, you know?

Yeah.

I mean,

honestly,

sure, you would think you want to be queen of the Oscars, but I think she has a nice life.

I think so.

Uncomplicated.

Who's happier?

Who's happier?

I have so many different thoughts about this.

Like, on the one hand, yeah, they should be as a group.

They kind of do all deserve the same.

Because also, the three, like, Lindsay,

Amanda Safery and Rachel McAdams are really big stars.

They deserve roughly the same.

And Ergo, Lacey, should get the same.

She shouldn't get less.

And they have the same role.

Not one of them is like a star.

I guess Lindsay Lohan, technically.

It's unclear if they would be their original characters.

They might just be like cameos in the background, like a nod to the original film, which kind of makes me depressed.

But also seeing them as their original characters would make me depressed.

Like I don't want to see Regina George as like

you know what I would like?

The superintendent.

Like I know, I think it would be cool if it's their kids.

But then it's still a focus is on them.

And I think the Mean Girls musical is just the same story.

Like we have Janice Ian again.

We have Katie.

It's not,

they're not writing a new movie.

Oh, you're right.

You're right.

They're just going to like play people in the background, which is just going to make me feel old and sad for real.

Like, even though it's nice that they want to be on board, I actually think like

it's a little, it would be a little weird.

Let me say how I could see it going that way, but I actually really trust Tina Fey.

Like,

she doesn't put out shit.

You know, she's not putting out crap.

No, she doesn't do anything just for money.

Tina Fey and

Mr.

Duval to play their original parts because, like, that's a no-brainer.

You could be a teacher forever.

But

the girls don't really fit into the story.

And I feel like trying to make them fit would be a little distracting and a little sad when there's like the new we have the new crop.

We have Renee Rapp is playing Regina George.

Oh, is she in the movie, Renee Rapp?

Yes, she's in the movie.

We announced the cast

a while ago.

We have Andrew Rice, who's playing Katie Heron.

Oh,

Aluli Cravalho, who played Moana, is playing Janice Ian.

And Jaquelle Spivey will play Damien.

I think it's so interesting and sad that Ashley Park is not in it.

She plays

in Emily and Paris.

I forgot her name, the friend who sings.

Yeah.

She blew up because she was in Mean Girls on Broadway.

She has like an amazing singing voice.

What?

I have a fun fact, but continue.

Wait, so but she's not in the film.

Who did she play on Broadway?

Can you Google that for me?

I'll Google it.

You know, I got it.

I'm already in the.

What's your fun fact?

My fun fact is that Aaron Samuels is going to be played by Jeremiah from the summer I Turn Pretty.

Oh, that's perfect casting.

Oh, wait, Jeremiah.

The one that's the one.

Oh, Conrad.

Conrad.

Sorry.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay, so love that.

And a lot of people were wanting him to be cast in It Ends With Us.

Like, he's, people really love him.

I think they're really attracted to him.

Yes.

So I love that they got him for this.

She played Gretchen Wieners.

Yeah, she was amazing.

People loved her.

And she blew up.

I know she's now in Emily in Paris, but I would love if she would return.

Yeah.

But I guess not.

Well, you know what?

I don't see a casting here for Gretchen.

So it's up in the air.

Jerry's still out.

Also, she has an amazing singing voice, and this is a musical.

Yeah.

So I love that Renee Rapp is still being Regina.

She's like turned into one of my favorite.

From strangers to lovers to enemies.

Love that.

I love her in Sex Lives of College Girls.

Like how cool she gets to work on a show like with Mindy Kaling and Tina Fey.

I feel like that's the dream for like an actress.

Like if somebody said to me, like, what,

if you could be in any TV show, like, what would you want?

Like, I would want it to be a Mindy Kaling production or a Tina Fey production.

Like, they're always successful.

They're always actually funny.

And then it's like iconic.

Yeah.

Garachis.

Garachist.

So who knows what will happen with this?

I don't know.

I don't think, I don't think the original cast members being in it will make or break it.

Honestly, I would like to know what they're doing.

I don't know.

How much do you think they deserve?

And also knowing it's just going to be a cameo, not a whole ass role.

I don't know what the market is.

I don't know what cameos get paid, but like a million dollars.

So Tina Fey got seven figures to act in it.

Could be a million, could be nine million.

She's also the writer of the original film.

It's like she owns the franchise.

Yeah, but I do think like the way that they worded this, I think she's getting paid separately for that because she reportedly has a seven-figure deal for her acting role.

Dash, she's also writing and producing the movie which is like separate other money yeah well she's in the whole movie she's a main character these girls would probably just be cameos so if they're getting a fraction of her acting

that's simple math they will probably work one or two days and she'd probably work a month but they think they deserve more of being the originals and there are the names that they are all right so maybe it's not going to work out and you know what i don't think it'll affect it in a way that you know another in another franchise like a major person not returning would affect it you know oh yeah because they won't have major roles regardless.

Yeah, I don't, honestly, it would be cool to see them all get back together, but like, I don't really care.

Like, cause I want to see the musical.

I actually never saw it on Broadway, and I heard it was amazing.

Um, so I want to see the musical just like, period.

And I don't think that'll change whether the four of them are in it.

Yeah, but I also could think it could be like a no-hard feelings thing.

Like Rachel McAdams is like, listen, I don't get out of bed for less than a million dollars.

Um, but if you can't afford that, then okay, then we won't do it.

Like, it's not

to be all or nothing.

Agreed.

Not two of them.

Lacey Shaber shows up with Lindsay Lohan and then the other two don't.

Like, no.

Yeah.

No.

No.

But if it's just like a little cameo, like, why do they need like a huge payday?

If it's just like them like crossing the street or like they go to the mall and there's just like these women like having lunch, like,

okay.

Do you need a million dollars for that?

Like, no, like, do it for the culture.

Do it for the culture.

Totally.

Okay.

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Our next story.

You know who's going to need a nice talk soon?

Who?

Phoenix Baron Hilton Room.

Yeah.

Paris Hilton is introducing the world to her baby boy and revealing the name that she's given him on her iHeartRadio podcast.

This is Paris.

The new mom revealed her baby boy's name, which is Phoenix.

His name is Phoenix.

And then his whole name is Phoenix Baron Hilton Maximilian Room.

Everyone was like tagging me.

Like, Claudia, you were right.

What did I say?

Okay, that's kind of rude because I feel like it was me who said it's going to be a city.

Like, I think, I thought it would be a city, and I thought it was going to be like,

I actually think I said that, honestly.

No, I said it because I was talking about that movie Money Height, the show Money Heights, and how they're all named after city.

So then I just started, you know, Denver.

Honestly, like,

Denver is a very warm guest.

Like, yeah, Dorit also said it was going to be a name that was like a real name, something that's like you could actually conceive of, not just a bunch of letters put together.

And Phoenix is like Dorit's baby boy is Phoenix.

No, it's like, it's not like a super common name, but it is a name.

It's not like a new word that celebrity made up and is like, it's a name, Detroit.

Like, if you're looking at baby name lists, like, it would come up.

Yeah.

It's a name that's like a real name, also a city.

Like, we hit all the points of what she was looking for.

Of course, my ultimate prediction was Maximilian.

um maybe the next one i guess there's no city max no now it's like that's clear what she's doing it's like a theme and i like that it's also a pee phoenix in paris like it's cute i like it a lot and it's also it was surprisingly normal yeah so this is what she said about it she explained that she thought of the name 10 years ago sharing the story while reading an excerpt from her upcoming memoir paris so there's this is like a little you know um teaser russian nesting doll of paris's promos on her podcast she read read an excerpt from her memoir about her baby's name, saying, quote, if all goes well, by the time you read this, Carter and I will have a baby boy.

We plan to name him Phoenix, a name that I decided on years ago when I was searching cities, countries, and states on a map looking for something to go with Paris and London.

Phoenix has a few good pop culture reference points, but more importantly, it's the bird that flames out and then rises from the ashes to fly again.

I want my son to grow up knowing that disaster and triumph go around and come around throughout our lives, and that this should give us great hope for the future.

Gorgeous.

She also explained that his middle name Baron is a tribute to her late grandfather, who was always her mentor, Baron Hilton.

Love.

It's a very prestigious Phoenix Baron Hilton room.

It's a long, it's a royal name, it sounds.

I like it, but it's also modern.

It's also very Paris.

And it's also very Hilton.

And I guess room as well.

Yeah, no, it really, it has it all.

I think this is a great, I feel satiated.

Satiated.

I like that she gave us an explanation because if I had seen Phoenix, I would have just been like, oh, it's a cool name.

But yes, Phoenix, rising from the ashes.

Yes, Paris.

Tell us more.

I really do.

I love that

metaphor about a Phoenix.

I really, I think it's beautiful.

I really do.

And I think it's a very apropos in life.

And I really love it.

Who has that song, Phoenix?

Gonna rise like a Phoenix.

I have no idea.

Them see you rise.

Hey,

hey.

You know it?

Sounds like

trains.

Olivia Holt.

I thought Sabrina Carpenter.

No way I was going to know that.

No, no, but I was thinking Sabrina Carpenter.

It's a good song.

Check it out.

I think that's what inspired Paris.

Check it out.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

Yes.

Giselle Bunchen has transformed for her first Vogue cover since Tom Brady divorce.

Vogue Italia.

Once again, American Vogue not getting the scoop for, you know, this, the great American football star's wife, but okay.

Right.

And they could have had like a garge shoot with her.

Instead, she's on the cover of Vogatalia looking edgy, which isn't my favorite.

It's like the worst word to describe.

Like, if you ever, if I ever came to the room and be like, would you like this outfit?

And you said, yeah, it's edgy.

I would burn it immediately.

No, like, her hair is dyed red, and I can be the first to say it doesn't look good because I am a redhead, but it's like bright red.

She has red, thin eyebrows,

red lips,

and a red dress.

Honestly, she looks like a fashion clown.

Yeah, she also doesn't look like herself, you know?

No, she doesn't.

Like, she's a gorgeous woman.

And I get that she's a model and you're supposed to like, you know, be just like a muse in this blank canvas.

But when you become a model who's also like a superstar and you get known for being Giselle, not just being a model, like you want to lean into that look.

And also, the vogatality of it all seems so random to me.

If it had been like Vogue Brazil, okay i would have loved that you know yeah but i don't know it just feels random yeah there is one photo in the shoot where she's not being edgy fashion model doll muse where she's being giselle she's wearing like a dolce dress and her hair is her hair color um and she this should have been the cover shot but that's beautiful it's natural it's sun-kissed it's brazilian it's also fashion but like if this were like america like she should have been on the cover of american vogue like by the beach yeah beachy waves yeah

gorgeousness, Giselle, in my own words, love

Giselle.

Life is not a game.

No, that's not my favorite.

No, but it's like football.

No, I get it.

No, no, I don't think you got it.

Let me think.

Hold on.

Let me think.

Hold on.

Like,

Giselle.

Touchdown America or something.

Like,

hold on.

I'm really, I'm tired.

Just like, give me a second.

Giselle.

I don't know.

Sound up in the comments.

What should the subtitle have been?

Yeah, if we had a few more minutes, we could think of something like Giselle.

Running into the end zone.

Yeah, or like something about starting fresh.

Yeah.

But like in a sports reference, you know?

Yeah.

New season or something.

Turning the other cleat.

Okay, that's like a little too direct, you know?

Okay, okay.

okay.

Something about a new season, like a new season of sports, you know?

Yeah.

What do they say about it?

They say it's a new season, you know, that's what they say.

Giselle has her Monday nights back.

It's actually probably like a really good point.

And Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Sundays.

Right.

Giselle getting her week back.

Instead, she's on the cover of Vogue Italia in an interview that isn't Italian.

And she's looking edgy, donning an all-red Maison Maison Valentino, look complete with matching nails and fiery red hair and lips.

And a string of other photos that you can check out for yourself.

She also just went viral.

I don't know if you saw this video of her dancing, like a traditional Brazilian dance in like this crop top and low-waist pants.

No, sickening.

Sickening.

Did she go viral for being sickening?

Yeah.

Love that for her.

Yeah, and it's just kind of like the year of Giselle, I think.

Yeah.

But this photo just doesn't sum that up for me because she looks like any model who could be on the cover who's just being like a model.

A model, a chameleon, a chameleon.

Like a blank canvas, a mannequin of sorts.

Yeah, but like, is it about this Mason Valentino dress or is it about Giselle?

It is supposed to be about Giselle.

Because the dress is not dressing enough for me.

It ain't dressing.

It ain't balsamic.

No, and honestly, the other...

Pictures from the shoot are like so much more interesting, even the edgy ones.

Right, but the one they chose for the cover is not covering is what you're saying.

Yeah, it's just, I like, you know, beautiful tings.

What can I say?

You're kind of crazy like that.

So those are the last five.

You definitely need to know all but the last, if I'm being honest.

No, but we had fun with it.

And that's what we do here.

We're not, okay, we're not like, you know, the news you need to know, okay?

After five.

I said it.

I'll admit it.

But we're having fun.

We're having fun.

And the show's not over because it's dear toasters time.

Our weekly advice segment usually happens on Wednesdays, but yesterday was kind of crazy, where you can write in and get advice from your girls about anything that's going on in your life.

It's always anonymous.

So the email is deartoasters at gmail.com.

We've got three great submissions today, and I'm ready to dive in.

Are you?

Yeah, let's do it, Turdy.

Hello, Gen Z's big sister, Enlauterd.

Over the past year, I've gotten into reading thanks to you, hoes.

I recently started posting my book reviews on my Instagram stories.

On my latest review, I received a DM from a friend saying she thought she just bought the the book and is so excited to start reading.

But here's my dilemma.

There's a baby girl that dies in the book and she has the same name as my friend's daughter.

It's a somewhat common name, but not the usual suspects like Sarah or Emily.

I know it'll definitely catch her attention.

I know if I were reading a book and there was a child with my daughter's name who died, it would really affect me in a negative way.

Should I tell her this beforehand or am I being too sensitive?

Is it worth ruining a book she just paid money for?

The death is pretty monumental to the story.

I appreciate your help in advance.

Sincerely, a literate girl's girl.

Don't tell Ben.

Oh my God, that's a really tricky one.

I know.

That actually happens to me sometimes where people are like, would I like this book?

And I know there's something in the book that will trigger this person just based on, and I'll say no.

Right.

But that,

you could say, like, if it was an event that happened that's, you know, would be personal to that person's life, you could give a like a little bit of a warning, be like, I don't know if this would be right for you, just, you know, given everything that you've gone through.

But this is different because that hasn't happened, but it's just like spooky and eerie, and who wants to read that, right?

I don't know.

I think it's okay.

It's a name like Sarah, she said.

She said it's pretty common, but not like really common, like Rachel, Sarah, Emily.

It's not like one, but it's not like a random, like usiferous, you know, one of the arts.

Yeah,

right.

You know, euphagenia.

But you don't want to spoil the book.

I know, and she bought it it already.

I honestly don't know what to tell you.

I feel like it's okay.

Yeah.

It's spooky-ookie, but it's not triggering, you know?

Yeah, yeah, it's just spooky-ookie, but it's not like something that she can't handle because of something that she, like, it's not what

I was thinking it was going to be, which has been like she's been through something similar.

Like,

in which case, I always issue a trigger warning if it's a book that like someone.

Of course.

But

I think you just

just leave it.

Yeah, I agree.

All right, next up.

Hey, my girls, I adore you, and listening to the toast is the highlight of my day.

Today, my boyfriend, who I've been dating for about six months, told me I'd gained a quote, shitload of weight since we started dating after looking at an old photo of me.

He then proceeded to tell me he didn't want to be with someone who was just getting fatter and fatter.

How would you proceed?

I can admit I put on a few pounds in the last six months, but anyone, if anyone knows, I know.

I I don't need him to berate me for one of my biggest insecurities.

Sincerely, a toaster who loves her brownies.

I'm just shook because it sounds like based on like your question, how would you proceed that this man is still alive?

And

that's just unacceptable because he should be dead in a ditch, you know, and I would have happily been the one to help bury this.

this lard, this fucking asswipe.

In literally no world is this okay.

You absolutely have to run.

Especially the part

where, because sometimes men can be stupid.

So him saying like, oh, you've gained weight, like, okay.

It wasn't, it wasn't an observation.

It was like an insult.

The second half of, I don't want to be with someone who keeps gaining more and more,

then goodbye.

Right.

And to be honest, someone who's like so aware and like turned on and off by weight, like obviously has a mental illness.

Yeah.

And that's so not someone.

You want to notice a few pounds.

Like it's so not someone you want to be with long term because life is long.

No, and if you want to have babies, your weight is going to fluctuate.

And even if you don't want to have babies, like things happen.

Like, you get depressed, you lose weight, you gain weight.

You, you know, things happen.

I've never experienced a more clear deer toasters in my life.

Six months, goodbye.

Yeah, it's not even that long-term of a relationship.

Like, goodbye.

You'd be better off being alone than being with somebody so miserable and quite frankly, unwell.

Yeah.

Goodbye.

Good day, sir.

I said, good day, sir.

All right, last one.

Hey, Jackson, Claude.

I'm a Gen Z toaster here.

I did not, though, find you guys on TikTok.

I found you guys through Kenzie, Elizabeth, and The Snatcheler.

The Snatcheler.

This is so interesting, and I chose it because I think it'll spawn an interesting discussion, and I want to hear what people have to say in the comments.

Okay.

So I'm currently a sophomore in college.

I'm 20 years old.

And my parents are really against credit cards.

I have a job and steady income, and I'm not in a financial situation where I really need one, but I realize credit score is objectively important as you get older, which means I should prepare now.

I'm in a long-term relationship with a guy who's very smart financially.

He has a great credit score and he thinks that I need to start building my credit.

I see where he's coming from and I honestly agree.

I'm leaning right now towards getting one just to use strictly for gas to build my credit.

The only issue is that the card will deliver to my home.

They don't deliver to my address at school.

And I don't feel like

And I did not feel like telling my parents about the credit card.

Do I have a conversation or do I try and go home and snag it from the mail before they see it?

Sincerely, a toaster toaster who is sheltered and just needs to mature financially.

So, I thought this was really interesting because obviously, like, you're an adult, and getting a credit card is not crazy at all.

And, like, either just tell your parents or go sneak it.

Like, you don't owe your, you can fly on your own.

But I thought it was really interesting, like, really random, like, obscure, kind of specific things that you grew up, like, not being allowed to do that.

Like, you grew up and realized, like, oh, it's totally normal.

Like, everyone does that, you know?

Yes.

Um, so having a credit card, it's not like demonic.

It's not a bad thing.

No, but I didn't have a credit card.

I had my own debit card.

I didn't have a credit card until like well into my 20s.

Yeah, I got my first credit card at 22 or 23.

But I felt like I was delayed in doing that.

No, I remember like even when I was living on my own and I was paying rent and I didn't have a credit card yet.

And I don't remember what.

Oh, you know what?

I got one when TPG came on the breath.

So that's when you told us about that sapphire one.

And I was like, you know what?

I do need a credit card now because I'm playing everything on a debit card.

But for a while, honestly, I wasn't ready for a credit card because like I would like just run out of money at the end of the month.

And I feel like if I had a credit card, like I would have spent money that I didn't have.

It sounds like this toaster is pretty fiscally responsible.

And she has the boyfriend who's fiscally responsible, but.

You kind of can get carried away with a credit card and it's a lot of responsibility.

And I understand why your parents might be like, you don't need one.

Cause it's just like, just go.

And you want to build credit, of course, but like you're only 20.

Like you'll get there I didn't have a credit card till I guess I was 24 25 and I have a good credit now I'm 30 so I kind of see where they're coming from

I wouldn't worry so much about my credit at 20 years old okay

to be honest like you can get the credit card or not get the credit card.

I think you can make an argument for both.

I think getting a credit card is totally fine as long as you're not racking up debt.

You're paying your bills.

You're making sure there's no interest.

You're paying it in full.

Like

you're fine.

But I did want to know like what obscure things like you as a child were like not forbidden, but like your family just didn't do that like when you grew up, you realized like, oh, that's just like a my family thing.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

I feel like in our house, we literally never, not that we weren't allowed, but we just like were not taking Tylenol.

Do you know what I mean?

We're in an Advil ibuprofen house.

And like even now to this day, like I know it's the same thing kind of, but like.

Tylenol is sus.

I don't know.

I have questions about Tylenol.

Oh, and it doesn't fucking work.

Yeah, right.

I have my suspicions about Tylenol.

Yeah, me too.

Advil works

and Tylenol doesn't.

But no, I'm still hung up in the credit card thing because you know what?

I think back to it in like a couple girls that I know, I'm not going to name names who are very responsible people.

I know who you're talking about.

Had and who had good, solid jobs, like salaried.

Yeah.

Like a couple people I know racked up some serious credit card debt.

Yeah, it was like a problem for them in their early 20s because you get carried away.

You do.

And like

you can't, you shouldn't spend money that you don't have.

So

why do you need a credit card unless you're intent on doing that?

Like, why can't you just be debit?

Like, for sure.

She is, she wants to build credit.

Why?

Why?

She wants to buy a house.

She didn't say so.

Like, it's just because her boyfriend's telling her to do that.

And like, I feel like he's saddling you with kind of a lot.

And what if he's not going to be like around so, like, you know, and things kind of can spiral.

yeah things can spiral like i feel like it's really important to preach the importance of like financial health and what brian's always saying like don't do not get into the points and credit game if you are not financially healthy like if you are in debt it is not for you yet yeah and there was like a while even i was working and i was like paying my own rent but i was not ready for a credit card same i would have just went out having dinners that i couldn't pay for yeah and i was even i was financially healthy at the time but i don't think i was mature enough to like really understand the responsibility of having access to debt.

Yeah, I think for a while you got to live with that debit card.

The money that you have is the money that you spend.

There is no in between.

Yeah, racking it up.

You pay it immediately.

Like I kind of see where your parents are coming from.

The only thing is this girl, she didn't say, should I get a credit card?

She said, should I tell my parents or not?

That's what I'm saying.

So I just want, I want to answer her question, but I also think it's important that we stress like to be careful with the credit card when you're young.

But I think she should tell her parents.

One, she clearly cares what they think and you shouldn't ever do something that you that you shouldn't be doing something that you feel is so wrong.

So if you feel like this is what's right for you, want to build credit, make the argument.

Let them know you're an adult and this is what you're doing.

But also like in the off chance that, you know, you do find yourself in a bad spot with it.

Like it's better that they know that you had instead of in few years being like, mom, dad, I need help.

I didn't listen to you and I need your help.

Yeah, no, you're 100% right.

And also like, you're not doing anything wrong or bad.

So like there's no need to lie.

Yeah, I agree.

Just make your case.

You feel so certain that a credit card is the next step for you, then explain it away.

Now, I really chose this because I want people to pop in the comments and let me know, like, what is a thing you just didn't do in your house that like you had an aversion to as you grew up?

And then you realize, like, oh, like, no, this is normal.

Like, everyone uses this thing.

Like, for this girl, it was clearly credit cards.

Yeah.

For us, it was Tylenol.

For Lola from Confessions of a Teenage Trauma Queen, it was microwaves.

It was microwaves.

I'm trying to think.

You have any others?

No, it was really Advil.

And it's, that's, I don't know why this is like so ingrained in my memory.

Oh, also tampons.

You know, like we grew up in a house where it was like, you know, it wasn't forbidden, but it was like, you know, tampons just like always go with a pad.

And then the older we got, like, we all just decided to use tampons.

A couple of us found ourselves in some sticky situations where you needed a tampon.

Right.

And then eventually like we transitioned to tampons.

But I think that's actually pretty common because of TSS and like a lot of like the chemicals.

I don't think that's actually like a crazy thing that was in our house.

And I think that like when you first get your period, like you should wear pads for as long as you can.

But I remember I was on a teen tour and we were doing an overnight in the desert.

I mean, that's just hard whether you were using a pad or a tampon.

But like

it was time for a tampon for your girl.

Yeah.

I remember the first time I needed a tampon too.

What was the situation?

I think I was in Israel.

And you know, Israeli tampons.

I was in Israel too.

Oh, no way.

Yeah, my teen tour.

We slept in the desert.

Israeli tampons don't have applicators.

Yeah, that's.

I don't know if that's just Israel.

I think like a a lot of foreign countries.

There are also like there are American ones that don't have applicators.

Right.

So it's just like a cellophane.

There are American ones that do.

It's a piece of cotton wrapped in cellophane.

And you just got to like

raw dog it.

Like maybe now after having had my period for 15 years, I could

use one of those and like, but to use it, I'm at first.

That's not what I use.

Like my friends on the trip had tampons, so someone floated me one.

Right.

And I gave them a cigarette.

It's like prison.

So that was Dear Toasters.

Thank you to everyone who wrote in.

Again, that email is deartoas at gmail.com.

We'll be back next Wednesday with that.

And we're back next week.

Oh, no, it's not Friday, is it?

Oh my god, not me, like hopelessly.

No, and it's been a short week.

I really thought it was Friday, Dan.

Well, I'll see you guys tomorrow then.

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