Thou Shalt Not Steal: Tuesday, November 22nd, 2022

Good morning, Millennials.

Welcome back to the toast and happy Tuesday.

Hope everyone's having a great day so far.

Hey, Jax, how are you dern?

Dern good.

Gearing up for Thanksgiving.

We're two sleeps from Thanksgiving, you guys.

I hope everyone is making space in their bellies so that their bellies can be full and their smiles can be wide.

I also hope everyone is really acknowledging the space that they're in.

I feel like so many times throughout the year, I'm like, oh, I wish it was the holiday season.

I wish there was Christmas music and Christmas trees and, you know, holiday cheer.

And it's actually here and it goes by so fast.

So, like, next thing you know, it's going to be February.

There's going to be no, you know, federal holidays coming up.

And it's going to be a dark time.

At least February gives us Valentine's Day, which is spirited, and President's Day.

March.

And March is the bitter month.

And Harry's birthday.

How could you forget?

And my anniversary.

Right.

Oh, speaking of

Groundhog's Day.

Will the Groundhog see his shadow?

Spoiler alert.

I don't know, but I know that it will mean a long winter.

Or will our new mayor follow in the footsteps of our first mayor and accidentally kill Punksatani Phil?

I don't know if he killed him.

He dropped him.

He altered his life forever.

And so are they all called Punksatani Phil?

I think they are.

It's like a generational thing.

It's like you get the name when you're, it's like royal.

Royal, you got, thank you for bringing that up.

I got my gift box yesterday from Buckingham Palace.

And you guys, if you are a royal girly like me, you have to treat yourself to a single.

Speaking of Harry's birthday, Jackie, ask me how I'm dirting.

How are you, Derdin?

You know, I'm dirting better because I told you this last night.

And when I woke up, it was, you know, still very much going on.

We are in the process of going viral on TikTok, but not in the way that we had hoped.

We're getting some backlash, you said.

We're getting some backlash on what I thought was was such a funny clip about Miss Rach.

Miss Rachel, as for those who don't know, is the YouTuber changing lives.

She's changed the lives of members of our own family.

That's how we know Michaela loves Miss Rach.

She learns so many new words from Miss Rach, new songs.

So we were talking about her yesterday on the toast about how Miss Rach has going through like a little bit of a scandal, kind of, because she told her audience that she received like a very upsetting email and that people, you know, are so hurtful.

And it was just a reminder to be kind.

And what what we said, and which is what we clipped on on our Instagram and our TikTok, was that it's unacceptable for Miss Rach to be getting hate.

You know, if Miss Rach is getting hate, what has the world come to?

We must protect Miss Rach.

And then we were joking around about how Miss Rach needs to get a thicker skin because it's one email, girly.

Like, you know, get over it.

I thought it was funny.

Like, we were obviously joking.

We obviously respect Miss Rach.

That's why we like know who she is.

I don't even have kids.

Like, we respect, but the mamas have descended.

Would you like for me to read some of the comments to you?

Please do.

They're not coming.

You shared some last night.

I didn't agree with the take,

but everyone's entitled to their opinion.

And then also the other half of what we said was like, that makes us feel a little better.

Like if Miss Rach gets hate, then like you could really be perfect and you'll still get hate.

So here's the top comment.

Okay, but the difference here is Miss Rach is actually a precious angel.

Ooh, that one, that bites.

Yeah, meaningly not, we deserve hate.

That's what I think.

That one has teeth.

Yeah.

And this is pretty much what everyone was saying.

Like, this is giving passive, aggressive, mean girl vibes.

Okay.

Okay.

Sure.

Here's the thing.

Sure.

Sure.

Like, not everyone is going to be nice all the time.

And we're just going to be honest.

And that's how it made us feel.

If that's called mean girl vibes, then sure.

MGV.

Also, MGV.

Here's the thing.

I'm totally okay with like people not agreeing with things we say on the podcast because, you know, we live in a free country and thankfully that's a privilege that we have.

But what I get annoyed at is when people get mad at us for things we didn't say.

We didn't say we want Miss Rach to get hate.

And everyone's like, not you encouraging hate.

We never said that.

We actually literally not us encouraging hate.

Yeah, not us.

No, people who are like,

like, not you guys, like, being happy that Miss Rach is getting hate.

Like, you're, I literally am not happy.

Like, did I say that?

No.

So if you're going to be mad, be mad at the things that I said.

But like, just because you're negative and toxic and like you are inferring things from this, like, that's on you, my friend.

That's on you.

Yes.

Now I need to call us out because oh we just like miss rage got one email and she made a whole thing about it like we got one

TikTok real comments section that didn't go our way and it wasn't one comment.

There's like there's like 400 comments section.

But we've posted a million TikToks of and people love it.

They lap it up.

We just like Miss Rage.

And I talk about it all the time.

And just like Miss Rage.

And then we got one comment section that didn't go our way and we're talking about it.

Just like Miss Rage.

Well, here's the thing.

i'm not complaining i just thought like you should know i thought like the toast universe should know like we are getting dragged we're getting dragged i'm totally cool with that i think you know

controversy raises all ships controversial tides raise all ships

and if that's really the what they're saying like if that's the controversy like Cool.

Oh, and it was people who have like never, you know, heard of our podcast because it's just like not for them.

And we're reaching new audiences.

No.

Brunette Girl needs to stop talking over Redhead Girl.

Brunette Girl does need to stop talking over Redhead Girl.

Brunette Girl does.

It's so, it's so funny.

Last, yesterday I put together the audio and the video for the show because you were freezing at the studio.

And it's like, I don't know when you're supposed to be speaking on me because you're speaking over.

I have to find

instances where you're done speaking and I come in.

That's why it's so important that I edit the video and audio every day because I know like when my annoying ass chimes in and I know when to time it up right you know got it um so that's just like a little digital news about us you know extra extra real about it I did want to ask because you know the people who have descended upon our comment section it's the mama community and for me like of course they're gonna hate me um but like you are a part of that community do you feel like in a way you're letting down your community no i feel like they let me down

like

Mamas, like, chill out.

But I don't feel like,

that's not the, I mean, you read the comments and you just read them to me.

I wasn't getting the vibe that they were from mamas.

I was getting the vibe that they were from like Zillennials who were just like, you can't like anything about hatred that she's getting.

No, it was the mamas community because they're all like commenting at each other.

Like, yeah, like mamas coming together.

No, I don't like that.

It was the mama's community.

So I respect the mama's community.

So

I'm not sure.

But you know what?

I feel like this is a good lesson.

Like, not all mamas are the same.

And that's like, you shouldn't expect that they're going to be and that they're all going to like the same things.

Like, we're all still different.

We were different before.

Yes, we have this mama-ing trait in common, but it's not to be expected that like all mamas are going to be toasters or or this or that.

I mean, they can only.

If only we'd be raising a generation of queens and kings.

Exactly.

So we actually have a fabulous show because yesterday there was like some crazy news that came out.

We've got the Christly sentencing, which I have so many thoughts on.

And just lots of good stories.

So, is there anything else you want to catch up on?

I didn't really do much yesterday besides freeze my nipples off.

And you and I actually recorded a really fun interview for a panel coming up with Taylor Strecker that we'll share.

I think it's coming out in a few weeks.

Yeah.

So that was fun.

Just talking about like business tings.

Business tings.

It was nice, like State of the Union to like reflect on our business, you know, the decisions that we've made consciously, the things that have happened sort of by a happy accident.

It was fun.

It was really nice.

And just getting to spend more time with you is a dream.

Oh, Jex.

And I feel like I got a lot.

I feel like I spoke a lot, which was new for me.

You know?

Oh, my God.

You're such a victim sometimes.

Like, you're fine.

You know what I'm doing tonight?

No, like,

what are you doing?

Remember, I told you about that show I wanted to see that was like a Titanic retelling using all Celine Deanna music.

Mm-hmm.

But like the time I was supposed to go, like one person in the theater got COVID and they shut down the whole thing.

Mm-hmm.

I'm finally going again tonight.

That's so exciting.

Everyone keeps tagging me in this Titanic museum that has popped up in the city and it's like a recreation of the Titanic, like the rooms,

everything.

I want to try and go.

Would you be interested in going?

To make you happy, yeah.

Well, I don't need to like...

Trust me, on the list of things I'm not desperate to do, dragging you to a museum that you're not interested in, is probably number one.

I can't imagine.

Would it be the week that you're here in December?

It would be the week that I'm there.

Yeah.

That week doesn't work for me.

I'm filming that comedy special.

This week is booking up.

Like, booking up.

We have photo shoots.

We have video shoots.

It's the TPG Awards.

We're doing a Spritz party.

Like, I honestly...

What party?

December 9th.

Are you still here?

Yeah.

Okay, you're going to have to come and you're going to like it.

You'll eat it.

I'll tell you all about it.

You'll eat it and you'll like it.

You'll like it.

Yeah.

I got these chocolates from Buckingham Palace in my dream box.

Are you ready?

No, I only had one.

It was so delicious.

I felt like mistrunchable.

How were the biscuits?

I didn't have a biscuit yet because I wasn't having a tea and I already tried a chocolate, so I didn't want to go through all my sweet treats, but I felt like mistrunchable, like much too good for children.

And I like

they come in like those little things where each chocolate has a little paper around it, you know.

Like, um, oh, that's so mistrunchable.

It was so mistrunchable, and I'm like giving them to some people, not to other people.

Like, taking one by none for brew, sensing someone's in your home,

you know yes um also speaking of movie quotes yesterday i did find the person in our comment section who was the first to comment where this quote was from that's the way you should feel your whole life um it was paper towns cara delevine's famous line i never even saw the movie she just said it in the trailer and i thought it was like such a weird thing to say um

i venmo'd her we should go watch the trailer and like see if it's as crazy no because we have like we've larped it that's the way you should feel your whole life.

Like, that's definitely not how she said it.

But I Venmo'd the toaster.

She sent me the money back and I sent it back again, bitch, keep it.

She finally kept it.

And then

we were like commenting to each other on the Venmo

transaction.

Yeah.

And she wrote the funniest movie reference, but I can't remember it.

Hold on.

How do I find it?

Venomo's the worst platform.

We were like commenting back another towards one each other.

Like

check your email.

Do you get an email?

No.

She was being so funny, and she quoted like such a niche movie reference that was like something we would do in our family.

Mm-hmm.

How the fuck do I find it?

Like.

Alright, whatever.

I found it.

Two comments.

What is it?

Oh, she said, okay, I'll keep it begrudgingly, but I'll leave you with another niche reference.

Frittata.

Oh, that's good.

So good, right?

Mm-hmm.

Now, if you know what that's from, leave it in the comments of this YouTube video.

Double or nothing.

Double or nothing.

$20 to the...

This is like a dangerous precedent to send.

$20 to the person who knows what Frittata is from.

First person to comment it and leave your Venmo username.

$20 to you.

Where should they be the first person to comment it?

I think on

YouTube.

But what about podcast listeners who podcast goes up first and they comment on our Instagram?

Well, that's what they get for not supporting our YouTube dreams.

Would you rather them watch on YouTube or listen as a podcast and help us climb the charts?

It's the same to me.

Yeah.

So why can't they comment on the Instagram?

Because like,

then it's just like so many platforms.

We don't know who actually is.

So it's a YouTube game.

It's a YouTube.

It's a YouTube game.

It's a YouTube game.

Okay.

And maybe we'll hit 200,000 subscribers while we do it.

Yeah, for sure.

So we've got a great show.

I'm ready to dive in, Jax, if you are.

I am.

Did you notice I'm wearing your necklace today?

No, I didn't come closer.

Stunning.

So stunning.

I wore it the day after my birthday, but that was the day that my camera had an astigmatism.

So I feel like people didn't really get to see it.

I'm going to come a little closer because it's like.

It's truly stunning.

It's so beautiful.

Little necklace ASMR.

Oh, okay.

These microphones don't pick up ASMR.

I feel like they got mine.

I feel like they got it too.

Okay.

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Our first story, some legal reality TV news.

Todd and Julie Christley are sentenced in bank fraud and tax evasion case.

Todd Christley received 12 years in prison and 16 months probation, while wife Julie Christley received seven years in prison plus 16 months probation, according to Insider and Fox 5 Atlanta.

Prior to the sentencing, Todd and Julie asked for leniency.

In a statement, Todd said his wife, who is the caregiver for their son Grayson, who is 16, and their granddaughter Chloe, who's 10, he said his wife should not be punished to the same extent.

Julie was emotional as she described a conversation with Chloe, who is the daughter of their estranged son, Kyle.

The Christley's former accountant, Peter Tarantino, was also sentenced to 36 months in prison on Monday.

Tarantino was set to report to prison on May 1st after under undergoing hip surgery.

The couple's sentencing had been delayed from October 26th to yesterday after their lawyer claimed a witness lied on the stand.

Prior to the sentencing, federal prosecutors requested the judge sentence Todd to between 17 and 22 years and Julie to 10 and 13.

So the sentences were actually a little lower than recommended.

They are also asking that the pair forfeit nearly $20 million according to court documents obtained by WAGA.

I mean, this is so crazy.

Of course, like, I can't even talk about this without thinking about what this means for Jen Shah, even though she's being tried in New York and they were tried in Georgia.

But it's clear that that like, you know, financial crimes from like people of a certain celebrity like are not taken lightly.

Cause this is still, even though it's less than the recommended sentence, it's a really, like, it's a harsh sentence for like a nonviolent crime.

Yes.

Also, Jensha defrauded people.

The Chris Lee's defrauded the government.

They also defrauded banks.

So like, what they did, which was so crazy, is obviously like the usual mail fraud, tax evasion, but they also were like creating false documents to give to banks in order to procure loans, being like, we make this amount of money, so you can can give us $5 million in loans.

False

collateral almost.

Right.

They would take that loan.

You don't have to pay taxes on a loan.

And they would just live off of that loan.

So I don't know like what the fuck they thought they were doing, but like it's illegal and there are consequences.

But like, I just wasn't expecting that.

Yeah, that's a big whopper of a sentence.

I don't think any celebrity case should be tried any differently than a lengthy person case, whether it's harsher or more lenient.

I think

they do often like make examples out of celebrities i don't know that that needs to happen either i don't know that that's what happened here because it's they got less than what the prosecutors were recommending which is typically what happens i think but yeah but i feel like there are people who like rape and don't even get that many years am i wrong that's a good point like it's it's a terrible crime don't get me wrong like you should not steal it's thou shalt not steal right

but when you compare it to the sentences of like people who like actually commit violent crimes like armed robbery, I feel like I never even like I'm always surprised when I hear that's what like a life sentence is technically 25 years, right?

Yeah, so how is tax evasion and everything 11?

That's a really interesting point.

Yeah

And I'm not saying like there shouldn't be consequences for your actions like they definitely knew what they were doing was totally illegal and then to go on TV is a level of stupid I just cannot relate to and I'll never understand why people do that.

What do you think came first?

Do you think they were on TV and they needed to keep up this lifestyle or they were being fraudulent way before they were on TV and at that point?

I'm sure it's in the documents.

I mean, they were living like even like a more fancy lifestyle before they were on TV because when we, season one, they were in this big old house and they had a million cars.

And then as the seasons progressed, like they moved into a smaller house.

It's almost like they downsized a little bit.

Well, also their kids grew up.

Could have been like a smaller house that was like nicer and more updated and in a better part of town, swanky.

Right.

It's just, I mean, do not not fuck with the federal government in Georgia.

Like this is, I was just, I was really shocked by the length.

Yeah.

Especially because like my bar thus far for things like this is Teresa and Joe.

And Teresa having to go for like, what was it?

Like two years?

A year.

A year and a half.

And then Joe having to go for three, plus the detention center for

ice.

Like that's my bar.

And that was so crazy to me.

Yeah.

Also, like the situation is a good Mike the situation is a

good example.

so when you compare it to that yes this this uh sentence does seem outsized especially when you also compare it to like violent crimes violent crimes so i mean like

it's like kind of sad no i mean but like they did that shit but like it is like someone's parents like yeah

for so long like

you think about like savannah's what like 21 in the next 10 11 years like she'll have kids like it like it is sad when you think about it from that perspective and it does seem like a harsh sentence but like don't break the law you know Yeah.

No, now I'm like, it's like, I pay my taxes at the end of the year.

I'm like checking, double, dotting my I's, crossing my T's.

I'm like, one of my biggest fears is like accidentally tax evading.

Yes, but I feel like there are people who accidentally tax evade where it could either happen accidentally or like it's a,

you know, I'll pay,

you know, like situation sort of thing.

And like the sentence was smaller for that.

Like, I think that what they were doing was so

intentional than also the lying to the banks.

Like, it's not something that could ever happen by accident.

You have to go out of your way.

Yeah.

I mean, I actually wrote about this in my book, how, like, when I first started making money on the internet, I guess in 2017, I under-reported my taxes, my income.

I wasn't entirely sure how much money I made and I didn't have like a proper like team in place.

And then like years later, because the IRS is like so backdated, I got like a crazy letter that scared the shit out.

I thought I was going to jail.

Like, I was so scared for like, you under-reported, and it took us two years to figure it out.

So, yeah, it was two years of penalties.

And I was like, so happy to not be going to jail.

I paid the whole thing in full.

I'm like, yes, sir.

It's right here.

Thank you so much.

Have a great day.

Yeah.

Influencers doing their taxes is an interesting thing.

I feel like there'll be a documentary.

Well, not even, I mean, maybe there are people who are trying to get away with funny business, but if you're an influencer and like you're doing like freelance work for different brands and you have a lot of different like streams of income, like even if it's like

not even streams, just like places that pay you it's really hard to organize your stuff for taxes so you really have to be on top of it so if any of you are influencers in any way shape or form aspiring influencers like big or small make sure that you have your tax situation figured out because it can really get away from you right like the second you start making money like invest in a good accountant or like a business manager it's worth your it's worth every penny yeah

An accountant should do it right up.

You send them all your 1099s and everything and they'll help you sort it it out.

So, that's our tip of the day for all the aspiring influencers.

Or just aspiring small business owners, business owners, you want to start any side hustle, like get your paperwork together first because it's a lot.

It's, it'll be a bigger headache down the road if you just like push it off.

Yes, but like a small business owner has like the one business income, and it's a little more clear-cut on how to do your taxes.

Streamlined.

But when you are a, I guess, any sort of contractor who has a lot of freelancer people paying you, definitely keep your antennas up.

No, like this, let this also be a cautionary tale to anyone who gets like caught up in like you know, fame and money.

Like, it's not worth it.

No, none of it is.

None of you are on top for three years and then you spend 11 in jail.

None of it matters.

None of it matters.

Nothing matters because at the end of the day, you're alone with yourself in your jail cell.

Right.

So, would you rather be in a jail cell or in a house that was like smaller than the one that you had dreamed of?

Right, right.

And maybe for some people, like, that's the peak is worth the pick.

It's a risk they're willing to take.

Right.

Yeah.

Not me.

Can't relate.

One of my biggest fears, no, probably my biggest fear, period, is going to jail.

You're not cut out.

Oh, no.

I don't know, but

I don't know.

I would definitely start like a musical theater.

You would.

I think I'll get a lot of time to read.

But I can't have a Kindle, right?

I have to go paper.

You have to go paper, but I think they have a library.

So.

Yeah, but they don't have a library.

No, you you wouldn't be able to read Koho all day long, but you'd have to branch out into other genres.

Yeah, I also would like probably start working out because there's literally nothing else to do.

Shredded.

Well, it depends what kind of prison I'm going to.

Like the one Teresa went to, like, was very much like it was still prison, but it was like a retreat.

Like, you had like an hour of internet time, working out.

So, yeah.

But, like, I'm talking about like the prisons like from like the movies.

Like, lawlessness, recklessness, like, there's a Shawshake redemption, right?

Or that episode of SVU that literally scarred me when I was a kid when Marishka Hargate went undercover with Ice-T, and Ice-T was getting a flu shot.

So he was waiting in line and not able to help Marishka when the guard they were investigating for sexual assault assaulted Marishka.

That episode changed, like literally changed the DNA of who I am.

Yeah.

Is that one of my like stories?

Yeah, it's not one of them.

Edit to the list.

You know what?

Where's my phone?

It is totally like one of those stories.

Let's see what's going on with Claudia's lists and see if anything needs any updating.

Yeah, well, I definitely think we can add the Marishka Hargate episode.

Claudia's repeated stories.

Okay, so.

Dennis's funeral.

Dennis's funeral.

Keenan's Uber drivers.

Yes.

Tarek's armed hike.

I'll never stop talking about it.

Law and order jail episode.

Who shot

iced tea.

Marishka.

Great.

And do you want to know your regrets or no?

I could tell you them.

Not getting in the cop card.

I have five others.

I have so many regrets?

More?

What else?

The Yeezys jacket.

Oh, that's a major regret.

Not going to the Life of Pablo concert.

You know what?

I can take that one off now.

yeah yeah fuck kanye all the trouble he's gotten me into like but first the confederate flag then a red taylor swift concert huge starting the tmt facebook group

huge and not having taylor strucker at your wedding

huge yeah that's beautiful okay don't you like that i have this list going for you i love because you're like you know my memory is not what it used to be i'm responsible for your memory you are literally like the the secretary of my memory.

That's your brain.

You're like filing all, like, you're in charge of the filing cabinets.

You know what I'm doing?

I'm outrunning your memory.

Feels like outrun in the wind.

Can't get where I'm going if I can't leave where you've been.

Stunning.

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Am I ready for our next story?

That's such a good question.

I am.

Great, because Dancing with the Stars season 31, wow, that's a lot of damn seasons.

It is.

Has ended and our winner has been crowned.

Spoiler alert, the winner is

Charlie D'Amilio.

Now, let me tell you how genuinely shocked I am that the classically trained dancer with hundreds of millions of followers and a reality show on the same platform as Dancing with the Stars, the fact that she won is so crazy to me.

I mean, what a, what an it's a triumph.

An upset.

It's an upset.

Yeah.

It's, I'm shocked.

Well, it's really beautiful because I feel like it shows anyone that anyone can do anything if you are exactly no matter how little experience.

No, anyone can do anything if you are the exact right person for the role in every way, shape, and form.

What confuses me about Dancing with the Stars, because I definitely feel like it's not really a hundred percent based on the votes um is like by this logic wouldn't jojo seewa have one

so jojo see what i mean you know her on tick tock where she is extremely popular popular um but to me she doesn't have the same popularity as charli d'emilio and agreed i haven't seen jojo see what dance like to me jojosiwa doesn't dance she just like jumps around no she's like she's like a very and she she was very good too.

Okay.

But Charlie D'Amelio, I was watching one of her final dances and I was reminded of how on the D'Amilio show, like she has a ballet studio in her house and she's like training as a dancer.

It's so now watch, like realizing this, I'm like, I should have put money on who was going to win Dancing with the Stars because it's so fucking obvious.

Not only is she just as good a dancer as the pros, really,

but she's the most famous.

kid in the world.

No, totally.

But I feel like every year there's like one clear person who like probably is going to win.

And more often than not, they don't.

Yeah, but it's never been this clear.

We've never had someone who is a perfect dancer and a 10 out of 10 millions of followers, most followed person on hundreds of millions.

Most followed person on the platforms.

Yeah, no, I agree.

And then we're going to be.

And the Hular connection.

And then that one.

Yeah, the Hulu connection.

So this was the first season that

Dancing with the Stars was on a streamer and not on cable.

And I definitely feel like it affected like the

publicity of it.

Like, I feel like no one was talking about it.

I agree.

I would only say all the people were voted off.

People who I follow on Instagram are voted off.

That's the only time I'm going to be.

Right.

Like Vinny Guadagnino.

Jessica Stecker.

Oh, she was on the season?

She made it pretty far, I think.

Well, Chandler made it pretty far.

I think she was the first drag queen ever on

Dancing with the Star.

She made it to top four.

So she was in the episode last night.

And for their final dance, her partner came out in drag.

It was really cute and funny.

That's so cute.

The top four were Gabby from the bachelorette changela uh Wayne Brady and Charlie D'Amigo

yeah so Charlie Chirlie

Chirlie Chirley

Chirlie

um are you thinking what I'm thinking what are you thinking what I'm thinking of course we can't say

it's like it's like old school inside family joke you guys wouldn't care but like yeah simpatico um i'm happy for churles

and

I just like, I'm like, okay, I can't believe it's actually pretty cool for Dancy with the stars that she was on the show, you know?

So every couple of years, they actually get someone who's not like on their way down.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Even Changela.

Changela's at the top of her game.

And what's so cool about Changela is that if you watched her season of the show, like she got out in the beginning and she was like

pretty unremarkable in terms of her memory, but she had like these iconic moments that like became so much a part of drag history

that she like never even won.

But she's like literally one of the most famous queens from the show.

Walk into the place like Shandla.

That's like, that reminds me of like the bachelor.

I feel like there are so many people like that who like were unremarkable in their season, but are so big in like the canon of bachelor.

Yeah.

I don't mean unremarkable because she's like funny and everything of the story, but she got out early and she there's a million girls like her and we don't we don't know her name she's on that hbo show with eureka and bob the drag queen we're here she gets like unbelievable she's on dancing with the stars no when i tell you it was on

10 reminds me of american idol like jennifer hudson on american idol like so many people who were on it who didn't go very far but have these huge careers now yeah like 10 years ago made it through four or five episodes is the biggest drag queen in the world now like it makes no sense you know also reminds me of like america's next top model Some of the people who have come up for the show, like who became pretty quick.

I would love to rewatch America's Next Top Model.

I should.

Yeah.

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Okay, our next story.

More details are coming out about Lizzie Savetsky leaving The Real Houses of New York.

Page six has an updated story about Lizzie Saveckski's departure from the Real Houses of New York.

They are recounting the story in full, so I'm going to share as well.

I just want to say after we had spoken about this, I like did a little digging because I'm like nosy and I really wanted to know what happened.

And I did find out from like a few people who like would know.

I found out the exact same story.

So I believe that this is true.

Yes, there's a lot of detail too.

Okay, so at the time.

And the headline is a little misleading.

It makes it seem like Lizzie's out here slinging the end.

Well, so she's not.

Headline, this headline is Lizzie Savetsky actually left Rahoney after a behind-the-scenes controversy.

When she first left, they talked about, she talked about in the statement, talked about how, you know, she was experiencing animals.

That was the headline yesterday.

It's the headline.

Hold on.

It's the headline on the art.

They might have changed it, but it also might.

But there might be a different headline like when you on the

homepage you know how sometimes they do that

yeah but I literally

I Lizzie Savetsky actually left Roney after hubby's n-word controversy

that's not it anymore so page six I'm just gonna read the whole thing so everyone just story time buckle up So page six reported last week and they said, while we'd heard there was more to the story, production insiders downplayed other drama beyond the online bullying.

Now it turns out that in fact, things went off the rails rails big time a few weeks ago while Savetsky was filming a scene with co-star Bryn Whitfield and got worse from there.

Page six is told that Whitfield had asked Orthodox Jew Savetsky, who has a reputation as a matchmaker, if she'd set her up with a Jewish man.

But Savetsky said that while she has no problem with Jews dating Gentiles, she prefers only to set up Jews with other Jews, sources said.

She added that Orthodox Jews favor marriages between Jews to preserve the ethnic lineage.

We're told that she explained that Judaism is not just a belief system, but also a people.

Sources say that Whitfield felt affronted and said something to the effect that Savetsky's terminology sounded like that was used, quote, by horrific people, meaning Nazis, who did evil things to your people, would take, which shocked Lizzie.

According to, clearly.

And that's what we had last week.

According to multiple insiders, the tension caused by the scene led to an off-camera phone call between Lizzie and Bryn, during which they discussed the power of racial slurs.

Page six was was told that Bryn, who was half black, used the N-word during the call, but rather than using the term N-word, she said the word it represents in full.

We're told

outright.

Page 6 was told that Savetsky got the impression that Bryn planned to tell other cast members that Savetsky had also used the N-word during the call.

Sources say that Lizzie's husband, Dr.

Ira Savecky, was outraged and reported the alleged incident to the show's producers.

But page 6 was told that when he recounted the call, Ira also said the actual word rather than saying the N-word.

Yeah.

Page 6 heard he later apologized, but the damage was done, and they're told that's when conversations began about the pair exiting the show.

Insiders were keen to point out that Lizzie really did also experience an

overwhelming value of anti-Semitism online, and that the N-word incident alone was not the sole reason for her leaving the show.

Yeah, I mean, so now everyone is being like, Well, she put out this statement about anti-Semitism.

She was using it as a front.

And like, let's not go there because honestly, I'm sure she, like, when she was dealing with this controversy, and then the shitstorm she probably had in her DMs was, it certainly was a part of it.

And I don't feel like we should discount that because I feel like that's right.

Yeah, no, and if you want to see the anti-Semitism, just go to any of like the Bravo Instagram accounts where they announced that Lizzie was going to be a cast member when they announced that Lizzie was leaving and just read the comments.

Like that, we know, we don't have to like be privy to her DMs to know what she saw, right?

Um, but this incident is so bizarre to me.

I mean,

so

first off, I believe that this is what happened because, like, this level of detail, like, I don't think that

they are conjuring it up out of nowhere.

Like, and this I think is something that

would happen and then get like, you know, kind of blown up in the production Bravo sphere and enough to like make lizzy either leave or or be fired right

also um this just goes to show you like it never ends well when husbands get involved like this like leave this to the women because i'm sure lizzy like wants to kill her husband right now like he was doing it i don't think he has any bad intentions i don't think he frequently uses racial slurs i don't think that's fair assessment to make

But in this one mistake, in this heated moment, because he wanted to defend his wife and wanted to make sure a cast member who clearly just has she clearly just doesn't like Lizzie

doesn't you know, go around saying really defamatory things about his wife.

He slipped up and made a mistake.

It, it changed the whole game because you can't just go around saying that.

Even if he meant it, he was not like giving malicious intent.

He was just saying, he wasn't calling someone the slur.

He was repeating what he had heard.

I get it.

You still can't say it, but like, it's very different than going up to someone and using it as a slur.

It's very different.

Having said that, I just think, you know, husbands should stay out of things because like they just don't know how this works, you know?

Yeah.

Yeah.

The whole, I mean, I think I imagine for Lizzie, like it was just like a compounding of things.

And I think the idea that one, now that her husband said this and then she was on the call and Bryn was going to say that maybe that Lizzie had said it, it was like, you know, between this, we don't need this and we don't need the anti-Semitism that we're getting and like we have kids and forget it.

This isn't worth it.

No, and I'm sure she was freaking out if she had a phone call with a girl she's arguing with, and her takeaway from the phone call is that she's going to tell people that Lizzie used the N-word.

Like, that's such a terrible thing for people to think about you.

I'm sure her and her husband were freaking the fuck out.

Yeah, and they ran to production so that they could get ahead of it, and they made it worse.

Right, like, help, and they made it worse, right?

And it seems like

they made it worse for themselves, and then production didn't really probably help at all.

Um, so they either, I don't know if she was fired or if she left on her own, but still unclear.

The show is turning out to be terror.

Like, I feel like like they can't

like this rony reboot is like curse yeah

i don't know what will be i don't know if any of this footage is going to be used i feel like it's actually like a really kind of murky area that they probably will stay away from usually it's like if they have footage like we have to see it but i don't know if they want to be associated this is supposed to be a show about like rich women being and that's what happened with the last not nazis and racial that's what happened with last rony too where they didn't even have a reunion because there was allegations of racism that were investigated.

And then they didn't even deal.

They didn't even go there again when they said, you know what?

Goodbye to all of you.

We're bringing in new people.

Yeah.

I don't think that this is what they want to be happening again.

So I don't know how they'll handle it.

It definitely doesn't bode well for the new season.

I also have to say, so Andy has like spoken about Lizzie's departure a couple times.

I saw a video.

Hollywood Life.

He sat down with Allie.

I know, I love her.

She's just like

a red-headed Jewish queen.

She asked about the Lizzie Sabetsky stuff.

And I think it was before this report came out from

he was just talking about how she left and there was anti-Semitism and it's bad and it's sad.

And it was so weird to me because he was like, you know, she experienced a lot of anti-Semitism.

He was like, I know I posted something about Judaism and the backlash, like the comments that I got were insane and like so horrifying.

And it's just a sad state that we live in.

It's like, no, it's like, no, Annie, like,

you are Jewish.

No, no, but you are Bravo.

And it's like, if your fans are creating an anti-Semitic environment, that's just a sad state.

No, Andy, I feel like, and I love Andy, and I've had to come to this realization like in a sad way.

I feel like in terms of like Jewish leaders in our community, like Andy has been such a letdown for me, like always and forever.

Like, I mean, I think his, I think his mere presence as like a Jew who's like funny and gay and well-loved, I think it's great.

And he incorporates like Mazel.

Like, I think he's a great representative for us.

But when it comes to being like an advocate for our community, I have felt like time and time again, he is always letting me down.

And that interview, before we knew about the situation, it was just like Lizzie leaving from anti-Semitism, was so disingenuous.

I felt like he couldn't have fucking cared less.

I was so let down.

And that's just like the vibe.

I never, I know certain Jewish celebrities like are always going to be there for our community to like speak up.

And I know Andy will never

and he'll do the bare minimum like a tweet.

and it just feels so disingenuous.

I don't think he, the way that I feel is like he doesn't feel connected to the community at all.

No, and it's like if he were the advocate that we need and like, okay, so Lizzie came on and she's getting all this anti-Semitism, anti-Zionism, and he's seeing that instead of just like being like, it's a sad state, Twitter is a cesspool, like.

Bring on some more Jews, some more Zionists.

And

no, and like double down, not like be like, oh, and so Lizzie couldn't do it because our audience is just too anti-Semitic, which is just so sad.

No, it's so true.

Like he's really time after time, like he's such a letdown.

Like I feel like it's really upsetting.

And I feel like people might be like, and him being a disappointment is a separate conversation.

I feel like people might be like, well, maybe he knew about this situation and just was like saying maybe.

So then he could have said like, oh, well, there's like other things that.

happened that are the reason why by the way i'm not even i don't want to use this hollywood life interview that's i have always felt i've always felt this way but i feel like if it if maybe that's the reason why he gave nothing in that interview he could have been like, well, there was some stuff that happened off camera as well that

viewers might see that led

to Lizzie's departure.

Just more, you know, instead of being like anti-Semitism, man, she couldn't do it.

That's the worst.

Couldn't let her out to her.

Like, I find that I'm constantly, like, reminding myself that Andy Cohen's Jewish, which is really never good, like a good place to be.

Because

if I forget, that means you're like never talking about it.

We've had this conversation before, I think, on the show.

And like, we disagree because you're like, he's not a great, you know, champion for the Jewish people, but it's great that he's like showing Jewish culture like Mazel and a lot of the verbiage and he's just Jewish and that's good.

And I

think it's the opposite.

Like I feel like if you're gonna use all of our stuff as your shtick, like you better be there for us when it matters.

So if you don't want to stick up for us, then like just don't do all the rest of it.

No, I see that too, but I still, I still believe what I said because like when you think of such a wide reach of bravo and like so many people who have like never even met a jew and have this like idea of what judaism is in their heads just to see like this like funny successful like i don't know i do think part of it is good i mean i don't

like just go all in or or just be like everyone else who's like a yeah

a jew in name only

Yeah.

No, it's definitely upsetting.

I thought that interview was really weird.

Really weird.

Just is what it is.

You know, our anti-Semitic fan base would not accept Lizzie and sad.

And therefore, she left.

Our next story is so exciting on so many levels that I can't begin to tell you.

Okay, let's go.

Brandy will be reprising her role as Cinderella in a new Descendants sequel.

Yeah, it just keeps

getting better.

So Brandy, who famously played Cinderella and Roger and Hammerstein Cinderella, announced that she's reprising her role as the iconic character for the upcoming Disney Plus movie called The Pocket Watch.

She said, so excited to join this amazing cast and reprise my role as Cinderella in the Disney Descendants sequel, The Pocket Watch.

So The Pocket Watch is a spin-off to the Descendants trilogy, which you know I love so much.

It's Sinich and I's favorite movies.

And it's back in the Descendants world in Oridon.

And here is the premise for all of the mamas who had been forced to watch this movie and found themselves really liking it the movie follows the story the movie musical follows the story of red who is played by kylie cantrall she's the rebellious teenage daughter of the queen of hearts that's the premise of descendants it's evil uh characters kids like grown up so she's their daughters their daughters and their sons she's the teenage daughter of the queen of hearts who's played by rita aura and oh wow friend chloe who's played by malia baker and she is the naive daughter of Cinderella and Prince Charming.

Cinderella played by Branny.

So it's perfect.

And also in the original Descendants movies, you know, it was like Dove Cameron, Sophia Carson, Cameron Boyce, and

Jay.

I forget who the actor is.

And their parents, so like Cameron's a descendant of Maleficent, who is played by Kristen Chenoweth.

It's pretty star-studded.

Sophia Carson's the descendant of Evil Queen, who's played by Kathy Najimi.

Kathy Najimi.

I fucking love Kathy Najimi.

Cameron Boyce was a descendant of Cruella.

I forget who played her.

And then

Jay was the descendant of Jafar.

So it's like the parents are always like pretty big actors.

So it's like awesome that it's Rita Aura and it's Brandy.

And Brandy's reflected.

And then the descendants are like going to be like the new big Disney standards.

The Dove Camerons, yes.

Very cool.

I love that like we are officially like Brandy is the Cinderella of our generation.

When you you said Brandy, like my mind, I was Brandy Glanville.

I'm like, what?

She's playing Cinderella.

That is so funny.

Oh, Jay was played by Boo Boo Stewart, who's also in Twilight.

Oh, I know.

And he like loves Jacob and he's like keeps following Jacob around.

He's team Jacob.

Seth.

Yeah.

Seth.

Seth.

Seth.

Seth.

Seth.

But wait, what was I going to say about this really quickly?

Oh, just like a fun fact about Brandy that I feel like nobody remembers is like her brother is Ray J.

I think everyone remembers I don't think that they do sound off in the comments do you remember do you remember so I'll be watching this movie I'll be forcing counselor snitch to hang out with me to watch it by the way I like how you were like to all the other mamas who know about this movie because they're forced to watch it with their kids and had to you know actually ended up enjoying it like that's not you watched a movie when you before

right I wasn't talking to myself I was talking to I got so many messages messages from people when I would like watch Descendants and post on my stories they're like oh my god I this movie's so good I watch it with my kid and it's so good.

I haven't seen any of them.

They're so good.

The music is so good.

It's Kenny Ortega, so you know it's going to slap.

Yeah, it's a quality protection.

And the concept is so good.

No, I actually am not against seeing it.

But speaking of like not me wearing a Dutton Ranch shirt today when I've literally never seen one minute of Yellowstone.

Poser alert.

No, I'm such a poser.

Wow.

But the

church is cool.

Remember back in the day when like calling someone a poser was like the meanest thing you could say about it.

Yeah, now it's called a bandwagon fan.

Yeah, no, now like, now that I'm an honest adult, like, yeah, I am a poser, you know?

Yeah.

Her family that poses.

Her family that poses, she fucks everyone in New York.

Her family that poses.

That was a really good reference.

Does that mean that they're always taking pictures or that they're posers?

I think she means like they're fake.

They're posers is what she said.

Like they're always just posing.

Like they're never just like being real.

Yeah.

Interesting.

Her family that poses.

Anyways, I'm so glad to share that Descendants news with you guys.

I feel like we all needed to know it.

And I'm happy for Brandy that she'll be silly for Cinderella once again.

She'll be reprising this iconic role.

If only Whitney Houston was alive to join her.

But they should get the guy who played Prince Charming to play Prince Charming, like that.

I know, because he never really got anywhere else.

No, so he should be available.

He's free.

Our fifth and final story

is a follow-up to something we were talking about yesterday.

Kendall Jenner and Devin Booker are no longer together.

The former couple who started dating in 2020 quietly broke up last month, according to People.

A source said both have incredibly busy schedules right now with their careers, and they've decided to make that a priority.

Sure.

So everyone is like,

quaking because she was at the concert and then Olivia and Harry broke up.

And now now that her and Devin have broken up, like, obviously, all three things are connected.

But I'm kind of feeling like now that, like, I'm actually feeling like maybe they're not together because it's like a little too obvious.

Like, what?

Kendall would literally release her breakup like two days after Harry and Olivia.

I don't think they're together.

I don't think it's connected.

But what I know now is Kendall is single and Harry is single.

So from here, where do we go?

And maybe she put this statement out today so that Harry could see that she's single because he might have just assumed she was still dating Devin.

So you know Girl Boss Town.

She does like PR predictions and whenever people break up, she's always like guessing.

And she actually had a really good guess for who Harry Styles would date to.

Cami Marone.

Leonardo DiCaprio's ex-boyfriend, ex-girlfriend.

So like they're both just out of like really serious A-list relationships.

Cami Marone is like friendly with Haley and Kendall.

So she like runs in that crew.

She literally looks like a girl like Harry would love.

And what was the last thing?

She had like really good reasoning for it.

And like, I could totally see it.

I don't see it.

He's going to date someone just like Olivia Wilde.

That was very unexpected.

Now, this Kendall being single at the same time that Harry's single is definitely convincing me of what you were saying yesterday that like they should get back together, they could, and that they're meant to be.

I still, I think that they might like try again, but I think that it won't work out because they're too similar.

But I've actually thought love to be wrong more than anything.

I've actually thought about

them two together because we had a really interesting conversation yesterday about like their personalities and stuff.

And the more I think about it, the more I actually think like Harry

does not like Kendall on a personality level.

I'm sure he likes her as a friend, but like

I actually don't find them to be even remotely compatible.

Okay.

That's just what I think.

I

feel that.

And that might just be like my jealousy

seeping in because I know Harry would love my personality.

Yeah.

I wonder what he's looking for in someone's personality.

I feel like he likes a serious woman.

And like.

I also wonder what he's looking for, period.

Like, is he looking to get married?

Not immediately, but I imagine he immediately likes being in a relationship.

I'm just going based on like what I've learned from him and Olivia Wilde.

I think he likes a serious woman.

I think he likes a woman with a mind of her own.

And I think he likes a little kind of like a bossy older woman sort of thing.

I think he likes being taken care of.

I don't know if we can make grand statements like that because he's dated a million girls before Olivia Wilde and like she was so different.

Like, who for a long period of time, like, yeah, he dated a bunch of girls and it didn't work out after five minutes because they're not the one that he was on it.

No, so he has like a few like long relationships that honestly, I don't know who the girls are because like I see them on TikTok and they're always talking about like, I think one of their names is Cami or something.

Camille, Camille, Camille.

There's a Camille who like a lot of the first album is about.

But it was like very low-key relationships.

Olivia Wilde was far and away like the most public relationship of his, but I don't know if that's because she was the most famous girl he dated or he was the most famous yet.

Let me get my list out.

Oh my God, of eligibles.

Maybe there's someone here for them.

Yeah, add them both, but also add them both.

But there might be someone on the list.

Okay.

Also, add Cami Marone to the list.

Eligible.

And Leo.

Well, no, Leo and Gigi.

Yeah, Cami Marone and Kendall Jenner.

Now we go to Harry Styles.

Wow, the list is getting really long.

Oh, I had Rocky on it, but it's cuffing.

I need to take off Rocky.

He got back together.

Yeah, him and his wife got back together.

Okay.

Harry Styles and Chloe Kardashian.

No.

Obsessed.

I actually think, though, personality-wise, Chloe and Harry are a better match than Kendall and Harry.

Okay.

Lori Harvey.

Kind of obsessed.

Obsessed.

A flow Flo is here.

Damn, this is a small town.

Harry Styles.

I have it.

Harry Styles and Kim.

They don't really do that, though.

Like the sisters.

They don't date people that are.

No, no, they don't.

But I think Kim is a better choice than Chloe because

just because I think she's.

Well, you're comparing it only to Olivia Wilde, and I don't think that's fair because it is Olivia Wilde.

Like, no.

They're similar girls to be able to do that.

She is Dream Girl.

I don't think Kim's having was Kindle to get closer to Kim.

And why wouldn't I bring Kim to my concert?

From a physical perspective, like his type is all the same.

It's like literally model, tall, no boob, like tiny girl.

Giselle.

Perfect.

Literally perfect, by the way.

Yeah.

Olivia Jade, I wouldn't be surprised.

Oh my gosh.

I wouldn't be surprised if she found herself in Harry's house.

She would take her off the list.

I think you can take her off the list.

Like she is really with Jacob Lauren.

Right, he's he's also on the list.

I don't want to have to.

I would take them both off.

I think

should I take off Asa Gonzales and Jason Mamamoa, too?

No, I haven't heard about them in a while.

I feel like they could have fizzled.

No, I think that's good news that we didn't hear anything.

Yeah, no.

Goodbye.

I'm happy.

I'm always happy when someone comes off the list.

Me too, because we're sending them, hopefully, onto a really beautiful ship.

But there are some people who I feel like are going to be here

for a long time.

Like who?

Josh Groban.

Yeah, but I feel like Josh Groban probably dates a lot, but like we don't hear about it because it's like industry people or like nobody.

I feel like he could just go on an app as Josh G and no one.

I think he could do.

I think he could go on the bachelor as Josh G.

Is Chris Evans dating someone?

Did we just report that?

Yes, annoy me.

Annoy me.

Okay, goodbye, Chris.

Actually, I'll leave you there, Jessie.

You need to prove yourself.

Yeah.

You were better than the whole sky.

I love that song.

So, me too.

Sad.

I love it.

What was the story we were reporting on?

Harry.

Oh, Kendall and Kendall.

Oh, you can put Devin Booker on the list too.

I actually felt like for a while, like, that was Kendall's

end.

I thought that they were definitely OTP.

I thought they were really similar.

And they started to look alike in my brain.

So when couples start to look like, that's how you know they're like soul.

Yeah, they were together for a really long time in a private way.

And so private.

And that felt like a real relationship.

It was a movie that felt like a real movie.

Real movie.

Yeah.

So that was sad, but the possibilities now are endless.

It's really a great time to be young and in Hollywood.

It always is.

I feel.

It always is.

Oh, so true.

Yeah.

So those are the fast five.

And, you know, we're two for two this week with stunning stories.

Let's hope today turns out some more sentencings, some more this, some more that, breakups, makeups.

So that tomorrow's episode, which is our final episode of the week before Thanksgiving, is just as juicy as today's and yesterday's.

I think it will be.

So that's our show.

Anything you want to say to the peeps before we wrap up?

Oh, we've got a busy day, so I'll keep you abreast on my IG.

Me too.

Come out, make sure you're listening to tomorrow's episode to see how my Broadway show is, Titanique, the Titanique experience.

Can't wait for the updates.

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Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye.

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