S5 Ep118: Ben Doesn't Support Literate Women: Wednesday, August 24th, 2022

Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to the morning toast.

Happy hump day.

Oh my god, it's wedness day.

Happy wedness day.

Happy hump day

to everyone who celebrates.

And hey, Jax.

How you doing?

I'm doing great.

Happy hump day.

It's a special hump day because Bruno, you can't see him, which is so unfortunate for you.

Disgusting.

He got groomed this morning.

He's so feels getting groomed today.

Gorgeous with his fresh crop.

He's so handsome for his mommy.

And he wanted to come on the show to show everyone his new look.

So everyone, this is Bruno's fresh top.

He has a fresher haircut than his mommy.

And he's so excited to be here.

You know what must be nice about being a dog?

Hmm.

Like you get a haircut and since they don't really have like emotional intelligence, like there's no breakdown that ensues afterwards, you know, like no pulling your hair out in the bathroom, no freaking out that your hair is too short.

Like it's just a haircut.

That must be like what it's like to be a boy.

Or they're freaking out on the inside, have no way to communicate that he doesn't like this haircut that I give him every few weeks and that he wants his long mane like Samson.

Potentially, but I think my

idea of what it's like is better.

I think Bruno loves having short hair, even though this isn't the typical Cavalier crop.

Cavaliers are meant to be very long and, you know, grown dogs, grown out, very long hair.

But Bruno loves to play and you can't play hard with long hair like that.

So I think he loves his buzz cut.

Bruno loves to play hard.

He plays hard.

He works hard and he plays hard.

Ain't that the truth?

Don't we all?

It's Wednesday.

We have a fabulous show for everyone.

We've got Dear Toasters, which is a highlight of my week.

They're quite unique today.

I wonder how we're going to get these girlies out of these pickles.

Well, I know if anyone can, it's us.

High-inter person.

Who are you going to call us?

Solve any crime by dinner time.

Who are you going to call?

Dear Toasters.

So before we dive in, little shameless self-promo, girlwithnojob.com slash tour.

I have a show tomorrow in Red Bank, New Jersey.

Very limited seats left.

I suggest you come.

And then I'm headed to the PNW, Pacific Northwest, Portland, and Seattle

in September.

So girlwithnojob.com slash tour.

If you like what you see here, come see me on tour.

I'm going to do stand-up.

We're going to have a good time.

We're going to drink spritz.

You're going to hang out with like-minded individuals, which is really one of the better parts of the Not Like Other Girls tour is being around like-minded individuals.

Definitely.

So when are those PNW shows just so I know when you'll be leaving town?

I know because it's my wedding anniversary.

I have to do better about like booking shows around, you know, personal times.

This tour was Ben's birthday and our anniversary.

So he's not too happy with me, but like I have to work on my art, you know?

100%.

Okay, so that's September 18th.

17th and 18th.

Okay, cool.

Yeah, no, that's like right when I was planning on coming to New York.

So I'm glad I know that.

I'm glad you've shared that information with me.

Oh, lordy lord.

It's okay.

I haven't booked my, I can pivot.

Pivot.

Like sometimes the show would be so much better if you watched friends.

No, I think the show would be worse.

I think it's so important that we represent both camps of friends files and friends loathers.

You are that of the latter, friends loathers, and you are a friends file.

Yeah, I guess that's true.

Like it's important to have dynamic discussions here on in the morning shows, which is exactly what we do.

I just wish, you know, I wish you could understand like my references, you know?

I do understand a lot of them because you explain them to us.

It's just like not as fun when you have to explain.

Okay, well, I'm glad that we're, we really don't do that anymore.

You've kind of moved on from friends.

I feel like you don't, not that you've moved on, you're just, you know, in a different place.

I feel like the way that you used to watch friends, now you read books

for comfort.

A hundred percent.

And

I just with friends, for me, I like go in waves.

There'll be like a period of weeks where I'll just re-watch it.

And so it's very topical and, you know, top of mind.

But then, you know, there are weeks and months that go by that I don't watch it.

When I'm on tour, I watch it.

If the hotel has like a Chromecast, I love a good Chromecast.

Great.

I couldn't be more proud that through my work and my endeavors, you have replaced watching friends with reading books.

My work here is done.

100%.

Like, what are you doing?

You're washing your hands of me.

You know, I can set you free and let you fly.

And you can work on someone else.

Who should I work on next?

Hmm.

There's only so many people who will allow me into their personal space to work on them.

The thing is, you should work on Ben.

Ooh, getting him to read.

Actually, you know,

he hates when I read.

You know who I've been working on, though?

Olivia.

It's going nowhere.

Oh, okay.

Cause like the, when you try and get to turn someone into a reader, the first step is is like deconstructing what they know about reading.

Because what we all know about reading is like Torture Fest 2000 from high school, like having a pit in your stomach when the summer's almost over because you haven't started the curious incident of the dog in the middle of the night.

Like the sheer anxiety and panic that would come from books when we were kids has stuck with us all well into adulthood.

It's not even that actually that I confront with some reticent readers.

It's that they think they know what reading is about.

They're like, no, I know, I read sometimes and I don't want to kindle.

I like the feeling of a book.

And when there's a book I want to read, I read it and I read on vacation.

But it's like you're closing yourself off to a world of opportunity.

They think that reading means, you know,

no TV, no fun.

It's just rigorous scholastic work.

And it's all the TV, all the fun, plus your imagination and your brain is doing some legwork.

Anyways, it's that.

It's like Olivia being like, no, I know about reading.

I just don't want to do it.

It's like, but you don't know about reading.

Yeah, and I also think that people really underestimate like how much time they have.

Like, I think when people think of their free time, like they want to watch TV and scroll on their phone and like be with their families.

And you can fit reading into that.

Like you definitely can.

And look at Claudia, who scrolls on their phone, watches TikTok and bees with their family more.

And don't get me wrong, my screen time on TikTok has definitely gone down, but it's still above average.

It's taken a hit.

It's taken a hit, but I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing for me.

Not at all whatsoever.

So I'll work on Olivia and Ben, two extremely stubborn people, very said in their ways.

But you know who's more stubborn?

Me.

Yeah, it's true.

Like you're not stubborn, you're persistent.

Persistent, especially when I know what's good for you.

Literally the only time in recent memory, like ever, actually since knowing Ben, he read my book, which honestly, I did not think he was going to do.

Like he went into the living room like on a Sunday.

I think my book came out on Tuesday and he waited till the very last minute and he sat on the couch and read the whole thing in a matter of hours.

And I was like 95% sure he was just sitting there playing video games.

I was like watching him on the dog camera, but he did read it.

But besides that, the one time that Ben in the time that I've known him, which is almost 10 years now,

the one time he came close to reading a book was when we were on vacation and we were both in Hudson News.

And I didn't read back then either, but I'm like, let's get like cute books like for the trip.

I bought, um,

I want to say it was Drew Barry Boer's memoir.

Like it was in the airport.

It was like the the closest thing to something that I would read.

And Ben bought Aziz Ansari's memoir.

Like, didn't read a page.

But, like, if you ask him what the last book he read was, he will say Aziz Ansari.

And, like, what his favorite book is, Aziz Ansari.

Literally.

That's really funny.

Okay.

So I would love that because he hates when I read.

Like, every time he comes into the room and, like, I'm not watching TV and I'm just reading, he's like, oh my God, you're reading again.

Like, he just complains about it.

He doesn't want to see you thrive, honestly.

He doesn't want to see me.

He doesn't want to see me further my education.

He He doesn't want to see you advance yourself scholastically.

He doesn't support women in literature.

And for a man who's married to a New York Times best-selling author, that's disgusting.

It's disgraceful.

He doesn't support

literate women.

He just doesn't.

He supports illiterate women.

And that's disgusting.

Damn.

Not right.

Extra, extra.

Read all about it.

Ben Sophers does not support literacy in women.

And honestly, I expect a full rebuttal from him on his podcast, Good Guys, from Toast News Network, now available anywhere you stream podcasts.

I did finish a book last night that, like, you know, when you go off of Goodreads, like you troll Goodreads, it's so hit or miss.

Like I found every summer after, before it became trendy, I read it before everyone else on Goodreads.

And I was grateful to the Goodreads algorithm for bringing me to this book.

The Goodreads algorithm kept shoving this one book in my face.

And I was like, you know what?

Maybe like I should just lean in.

What book?

The Spanish Love Deception.

When I tell you, I was embarrassed to be reading this book.

Like it was not good.

And I liked the characters.

That was the thing.

Like I liked both the main characters.

Like the girl, she had spunk.

You know, I liked her.

She was like this fiery Latina.

Like I really liked her.

The guy was, of course, this like stoic, you know, former football player, like really, like, my favorite.

But like everything else just like stunk.

And I just know it's like it's coming, it's being pushed.

Like Goodreads has an agenda and they're pushing it on you.

And the Spanish love love deception is a part of that agenda.

And I just want to, I want to warn everyone, like, don't get tricked.

Like, it's not good.

Yeah, Goodreads is an amazing platform.

I would say, you know, 99% of the time, like, it is everything it needs to be.

But sometimes it's just very

like biased and almost like they have an agenda.

Right, like they personally wrote the book themselves and they want as many people to read it as possible.

Or they're getting money, you know, per, or they work with certain publishers or whatever.

But, all, or it's just like, those are the books that surface because that's what everyone's reading because that's what like the book world has put forward.

You know what I mean?

Maybe Goodreads is just like a victim of publishing

politics.

100%.

And so are we.

We're merely victims.

Merely victims.

I am reading my book so slowly because I just haven't had the time.

I was at like 15% yesterday and I started it like.

six days ago, but it just got crazy.

Like now I'm only at 20% now and like, like, oh my God, it's insane.

It's called Before We Were Yours by Lisa Wingate.

And apparently it's based on true things that happened.

This isn't a true story, but the crazy thing that happened and it seems like is happening is something that did happen.

And I'm just like in the world or to the author?

In the world.

Got it.

And I'm not okay.

It's really,

it's sickening.

Like it's, it's a book where it's like a physical reaction

to what's going on.

So I really want to get through it because then we are recording the Redheads next week.

So I have to get through it.

We're reading Everything I Know About Love by Dolly Alderton.

It is a snitch's choice for everyone who loves to jump in on a snitch's choice.

Come in, the water's warm.

But snitch kind of shook things up this month, which I love for her since we've read literally the same book three books in a row from her.

Because this is a memoir and it's apparently very self-reflective about like your 20s, what you learn along the way.

I think from what I've read from the Redheads who have already read it, they relate to different pieces of it.

Some people relate to the whole thing.

Some people relate to less or more.

So I'm really excited to have a conversation about like, what the fuck we're up to in our 20s.

Snitch is growing up.

Snitch is growing up.

That's the headline.

Snitch is growing up and Ben doesn't support literate women.

That's today's title.

Should it be Ben doesn't support literate women or Ben Supports Illiterate Women?

But illiterate women deserve support.

Right, that's true.

And it sounds condescending.

Like, there's literally, it's not that like, there's nothing bad about being illiterate.

Like, no, you know what I mean?

And honestly, if you're saying he supports them, it kind of sounds like he's trying to shed him in a positive light.

And he's trying to help them become literate, which is not what he's doing.

No, no, he's not reading to them.

No.

Ben doesn't support literate women.

She's not a Christian.

She could be a Jew and believe in God.

Ain't that the truth?

Says, oh my God, I saw

the most insane.

You know, when like

you've seen enough internet,

yeah, like the internet has out-internetted itself.

There was like this thread on Twitter, and like people were being dead fucking serious

talking about Anne Frank having white privilege.

And I was so

shook up by this conversation.

I really couldn't.

That's what I had to start reading.

That's why I finished my book because I said, you know what, Internet?

Not today.

I've seen enough today.

Thank you so much.

A conversation between serious people or.

So

somebody had it.

Because it, okay, so it went so viral because somebody had tweeted it.

Like, you know, I'm going to figure out the right way to phrase this, but

I don't really know if there is.

And Frank had white privilege and i was like

and the replies are so privileged right the replies were so like mixed but the the tweet had like thousands of retweets and favorites i'm like there's no way people don't think this is crazy right

yeah

and that's when i really like

i had had enough

yeah i've seen what i've needed to see good day but what's crazy is like there probably are a lot of people aside from in the mixed reviews who like would be like, yeah, she did.

Yeah.

Or at least like entertain the conversation.

And you know what personally?

I'm not getting it.

Like I'm not even going to explain to you why that's so fucking stupid.

Beyond.

Beyond.

So that's what I did last night.

I read a book after seeing enough.

After seeing enough.

Yeah, I had a productive evening as well.

Little, you know, emails, emails, emails.

If you got an email for me at 11 p.m., what's up?

Oh, I'm so glad you brought that up.

Speaking of emails, you were 100% right that J-Lo was doing not a Vogue exclusive, but on the J-Lo.com exclusive.

She released the sneak peek pics of her wedding on her newsletter.

And she posted on her Instagram at like literally noon, like sneak peek on the jlo.com.

And I had signed up yesterday.

You all saw me sign up.

No, two days ago.

You all saw me sign up.

That email did not come in for several, several hours.

I got it around 7 p.m.

Do you think that they crashed on the JLo server?

No.

What I do think, though, is

somebody who works in like email marketing had messaged me, like, if they have your email on file as being previously unsubscribed, like you get pushed to the back.

Why is it like a cue for emails?

I didn't realize when there's this newsletter, some people get it sooner than other people.

It's technology.

I have no idea, but I do think her releasing the photos on the JLo.com was the best thing that ever happened to Chris Appleton because he posted a lot of his photos on Instagram and TikTok.

And like, why subscribe when you could could just see it on Chris Appleton?

Yeah.

Well, we have a story about J-Lo and her wedding, Luke's, today.

So save all your thoughts.

Yeah, because there's also, there's things going on with Leah.

Uh-oh.

Our

resident expert Leah Reminis-Stan will dive in after the break.

After the break.

Don't go anywhere.

We'll be right back.

You know, I do love being like a personality in new media, like a digital girly, but part of me like was meant to be like,

hi, I'm Claudia Ashre and this is your eyewitness news movie minute.

No offense.

That was like a little

black.

Like stale, yeah.

Okay, hold on.

Try again.

I don't know why I was like taking it too.

You're like depressed, maybe because you're like working for the news.

Yeah, like some low-level local level.

She's a weather woman in Alaska.

Hi, I'm Claudia Ashre, and this is your eyewitness news movie minute.

That was definitely more effervescent, but just for me, like, I just knew it was, you know, a front because we just saw your last tank.

Okay, no, wait, let me do one more time.

Okay.

After the break, man chained to a well for 65 years emerges.

And he's a Jew?

Don't go anywhere.

We'll have the answers when we come back.

Ooh, that was good.

Well, you, like, in another world, like, should have been, you know,

an actual girl.

anchor

anchor woman yeah like when you were in college you hosted the colgate centennial or whatever that yeah was called.

Was it a radio channel?

It was like a little web show.

iCarly.

Little web show.

Yeah.

Yeah, no, I guess that was, that was like my dream job, but this is so much better.

This is so much

better than that.

Literally.

And like, I don't think anyone will hire me.

Right.

No, with your disgraced background, girly, good luck.

You better, we both better pray to the Lord that this show stays successful for as long as possible because the odds of us getting another job after yesterday on the show, I said build the wall, like, no.

Uh, but the good news is the uh, the way this show stays successful or not is completely dependent on us.

So, yeah, just and by the way, like, if you missed yesterday's episode, like, I didn't say it in this serious, like, it was a joke, okay?

Like, please don't.

Am I about to cancel myself again?

It was a really funny segment.

You should check it out.

100%.

100%o.

Okay, I think without further ado, it is time to die.

I guess when I do this part, this is like me on my anchor woman grind.

Yes.

Without further ado, they don't talk like that though, but okay.

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Yes.

Jennifer Lopez has shared the three Ralph Lorraine wedding dresses that she wore for her nuptials with Ben Aflak.

In an epic all-white wedding ceremony at his Georgia home on August 20th, she sported three Ralph Lorraine gowns in one night.

The first, which she wore to walk down the aisle, was a twist on the designer's classic turtleneck column dress with over a thousand handkerchiefs and 50 meters of fabric.

They were cut into ruffles and attached by hand.

The bride also wore nearly $100,000 worth of Mickey Moto jewelry, pairing delicate white pearl and diamond earrings with a matching floral ring.

She also shared two more wedding dress looks, each one more

stunning and I would say extravagant than the next because usually you start with the mid

and then you get more comfortable and then a comfortable

jumpsuit mini dress.

Mini dress.

Exactly.

Not for J-Lo though.

She went for

all the way, all the way.

Glamour, glamour, glamour.

So

I find it so interesting, like, because J-Lo and Ben thus far have been just like extreme thirst monsters about their whole relationship.

And I feel like there wasn't really any hoopla around these pictures.

And that's because she did on the jlo.com.

Like it kind of muffled the excitement, I think.

Yeah.

As if it had been like a people exclusive, a Vogue exclusive, Martha Stewart weddings exclusive, the not exclusive.

Like it just wasn't as big of a deal.

And I guess like she sacrificed that PR moment to gather data for her tech company, which is totally fine.

I just feel like, like nobody cares.

Yeah, I agree.

I really hope that these emails are worth it.

Like, email marketing is big business.

And if you have a huge list of email subscribers, like you can sell that for a ton of money.

So, I'm the businesswoman in me is like, great, but also the businesswoman in me is like, J-Lo has like so many business ventures.

Like, did you really need these emails?

Yeah, like, honestly, we're not living in the dot-com boom anymore.

Like, I don't think her, like, you could sell data for a good amount of money, but like, not as much as you used to be.

No, I think it's still big business.

Data is the most

valued commodity in the world.

More than oil.

Yeah, I guess.

More than oil.

But like she's, when I signed up, like you just need your email.

Like some people do first name, last name, birthday, gender.

Give me your email and I'll give you the world.

Target.

Or the world.

That's literally should be a slogan for on thejlo.

On thejlo.com.

Give us your email.

We'll give you the world.

Give us your email and you won't stop hearing from.

email marketing companies for the rest of your life and you'll have to start a new email and take that email off your phone because you're getting more spam than actual productive emails.

Wait, JLo's giving Jensha energy.

No, I mean, this is all legal and I don't think she sold her database.

No, I was kidding.

It's totally legal.

It's just annoying.

And it's just weird and kind of lowbrow for someone of JLo's status.

And I just don't understand how it's such big business when it's like, when I get an email from someplace that I did not subscribe to, even when I get it to like something I did subscribe to because I shopped online, straight to deletion, don't even open it.

Like, how is that making you guys money?

To the person who invented like the unsubscribe button on Apple, kiss me on the mouth.

Yeah, that and the one where if you get a verification passcode, it comes up as like we're living in the future.

Jackie, to that person, kiss me on my butthole, literally.

Like, I love this man.

Yeah.

Or a woman.

Or a woman.

I would love to.

To the person who invented the code thing where it pops up, you don't have to leave the screen.

Literally, fellatio for all.

We need more capabilities such as that one.

Yeah, like actually making our lives better, not just making us buy new chargers every month.

I have so many chargers because all of my devices now require a different charge.

My new iPad has a lightning cable.

My two computers have two different chargers.

Mitch is only that one.

No, like being a tech girly means having, if you could see this, I know you haven't been here in a month.

If you could see this studio, like there's curds everywhere.

Same for here.

There shouldn't be cords everywhere.

I cleaned up the studio before I left.

It looks nice.

Every time

you go back and forth, I turn it.

You have to reset.

I have to reset.

Exactly.

That's tough.

And so I can't even tape down curds because then you come back.

Yeah, no.

Curds will be, like, aren't we supposed to be like in a technological, like

technologically advanced society?

I thought we're curd cutting.

Aren't we curd-free?

Yes, but then, okay, so you want a curd cut.

You could have some like wireless charger that one, you need to charge.

And two, craps out very quickly.

No, I know, I know.

So the moral of the story is JLo looked gorgeous at her wedding.

She did.

She looked very beautiful.

No sense.

And the pictures just kind of, no, they just like, this whole thing gives nothing.

Yeah, but you know what?

Maybe she just like wants to be, not, she's not low-key.

She's never going to be, but she's like,

instead of being like so extra with Ben, like, let me make some money.

Yeah.

And I'll accomplish the same thing.

Everyone's going to be obsessed with my wedding regardless.

And like, then I don't have to like thirst out, people, vogue, whatever it is.

Speaking of vogue weddings, though, since they didn't get J-Lo's, they got Sarah Highland and Wells Adams' wedding photos, which were quite gorgeous.

And questions have been answered as to, was Bachelor Nation schmoozing with Sophia Vergara?

And the answer is big fat yes.

Yeah, and you know what?

Actually made me have like a lot of respect for Wells because not only did he still invite like his bachelor friends who are like lowbrow compared to Sophia Vergara and the cast of Modern Family,

but he doubled down.

Literally, everyone was there.

There was

25 bachelor contestants.

Yeah, he didn't make cuts.

I thought that was really cool.

Like very

stand-up guy of him.

You know?

Yeah.

It's easy to drop your loser friends when you're married to literally an actress from the biggest show of all time, you know?

Yeah, I agree.

And Chris Harrison was there and Chris Soules was there.

The Chrises were out and about nick vile jason tardick caitlin bristow everyone ben higgins

yeah which was really nice you know i don't give a lot of real estate in my mind to wells and sarah highland i know so many people are obsessed with them i and i like

When they got together, I thought it was the coolest thing.

And then, you know, their ship is at sea and I've moved on.

But so it hadn't really sunk into me, like, what

the fact that they're together, that they're now married and he's from the Bachelor.

And she, at one point, like, was on the highest page

on television, and they're married from like just DMs.

And it's just so beautiful to see.

No, it really is.

And now, like, it's, we were completely immune to it because it's become so normalized.

But, like, let's me not forget the time when there was like speculation.

They're like, there's no way.

And then they were.

And it was just like a crazy time to be alive.

Yeah.

And it couldn't have happened to like a really, like a bigger mensch mensch in Bachelor Nation.

Like everybody exclusively has nice things to say about him.

He wasn't this like dick who was like the hottest guy on the show.

He was just like this really handsome, nice, salt of the earth guy.

And that came through and Sarah liked what she saw.

Nice guys don't finish last, moral of the story.

No, they really don't.

They really don't.

And she looked beautiful.

And they got married and sent to Inez, which will always be the engagement of Raquel

and James.

And James from Vanderpump Worlds.

Also, which leads to our next story.

Which leads beautifully into our next story.

I couldn't have planned it any better.

Sheena Shea and Brock Davies are married inside the Vanderpump Rules as Couples Mexico wedding.

So J-Lo sent her exclusive to On the J-Lo, Sarah Highland sent hers to Vogue, and Sheena sent hers to people.

And I'm loving all this exclusive content.

No, but you know what?

Everyone.

Everyone who you just mentioned should be extremely grateful to J-Lo.

Because if J-Lo had then taken vogue, it would have knocked everyone down.

Then it would have been Sarah and Wells with people, Sheena, and

Brock, an okay magazine.

Yeah, like everyone would have gotten knocked down a peg.

But no, J-Lo is a bride who supports other brides.

And because she wanted her own data, she lifted everyone up.

We're moving on up.

Exactly.

So congratulations are in order for Sheena and Brock.

The Vanderpump World stars tied the knot on Tuesday in front of their closest family and friends at the Dreams Natura Resort and Spa in Cancun, Mexico.

People exclusively confirms.

Sheena said, I just wanted us to have a good time with every person who is important to us.

She said they were happy to be able to get that time for a few days with all of our friends and family to celebrate us.

The stars were joined by a slew of their co-stars, including Ariana Maddox and Raquel Levis, who were part of Sheena's bridal party, as well as Tom Sandoval and Tom Schwartz, who acted as two of Brock's groomsmen.

Brock said they're a big part of our lives.

Guests also included past cast members like Jax, Brittany, and Kristen.

So no Stasi, no Katie.

No Stasi, no Katie.

Not surprising, especially like, I don't even know if, well, first of all, Sheena wasn't at Stasi's wedding.

And

maybe even if Stasi was invited, like, she has a baby.

So you just, you don't go to everything.

You can't dance at every wedding anymore.

And did you say Lala was there?

Lala was there because I saw it on Lala's Instagram.

But she wasn't mentioned in this article.

Now, I have a lot to say.

I'm going to start with all the positive things because they're mostly positive.

Just this article gets a little weird because like the person didn't change the tenses in the pitch email.

It says Sheena will be serving her guests.

They will be dining on and they can look forward to fireworks.

Like it's

it's giving lazy.

But yeah.

Sheena looked so gorgeous.

I was watching Lala's video.

Her and Brock did their first dance.

I didn't watch with sound.

I think that would have made it better.

But then at one point, like Sheena walks off and she brings back summer and the three of them dance together.

And I seriously had chills.

Like I know that Sheena and Brock are Sheena and Brock.

And we can talk about that any other time.

Not if you suspend disbelief just while watching this video.

Exactly.

I'm not thinking about all that we saw last season today.

I'm just not.

I'm thinking about the beauty and it looked so beautiful.

Sheena looked beautiful and I'm so happy for her.

I hope this is everything that she wants.

And I truly was taken with how absolutely stunning she looked.

Okay, two things.

One, were Brock's children there?

They didn't make the People Magazine article if they were.

And I'm going to say that they're not.

I'm sure that'll be a storyline.

I'm sure that they weren't.

I'm sure that they weren't as well.

And the second thing was, I was, was I the only one who was like really surprised that these two had a formal wedding?

Like after their shenanigans last year, like wanting to literally like use the tablecloth from

James and Raquel's engagement party as Sheena's veil.

Like I was, like, I was just shocked that they would then throw their own formal event.

Well, I think that,

I feel like Sheena would probably have always wanted a wedding.

She is very.

Traditional.

Traditional and quite chugging in that sense.

And maybe she always planned to do that.

But all the other stuff, you know, and we've all been there, like, it doesn't have to be the biggest and the baddest.

So maybe they just wanted to get it into the show, have it nice.

And maybe they also might have learned from that and been like, let's do our own thing.

Let's have our own moment.

Right.

And Sheena had like the very typical L.A.

traditional wedding, lest we not forget Mike Shea.

So she probably just wanted like this one to be like smaller and like actually fun.

But it doesn't look like it was small.

It looked like, you know, a first wedding.

Oh.

So I'm sure she wants all, like, that doesn't surprise me, though, for Sheena.

Like, Sheena's gonna give everything her all.

Yeah, and that's like one of her best and worst qualities.

So here is where the article, you know, it's a really long article filled with so many details.

And eventually the writer just starts to copy and paste.

Gives up.

Afterward, attendees will take to the roof for a cocktail hour, enjoying a wide selection of drinks and appetizers.

Guests will dine on a surf and turf steak and salmon menu during the reception with a vegan lasagna also available as an option.

The newlyweds first.

Who cares?

Newlywed's first dance.

No, seriously, who cares what the vegan option at someone's wedding is?

Why is that an important detail?

I don't know.

The newlywed's first dance will be soundtracked by Leon Bridges' Beyond because Sheena says the song's lyrics are very close to their hearts.

Wait, here's an interesting factoid: while they originally wanted their Vanner Pump Rules co-stars band Tom Sandoval and the Most Extras to perform, complicated logistics led them to choose a DJ instead for a reception entertainment.

Attendees will also be treated to a fire lyrics display from Pyro Caribbe.

The fun doesn't stop there as the night continues with an after-party at an on-site C-Note.

Sheena will change into a short dress from Casablanca Bridal in Newport Beach, California.

As guests close out the night with tacos and more dancing with the help of...

Okay, Checkie, seriously?

Like, let's not be negative.

So let's just stop reading, okay?

I'm just, I'm being negative about the tenses of this article.

You didn't need to include all of that.

And if you did, just don't pretend like it's straight from Sheena's email.

Yeah, and I really don't

want to be mean, so I'll just be quiet.

Any thoughts on Tom Sandoval and the Mose Extras?

Like I said, I really don't want to be mean, so I'll just be quiet.

And according to People Magazine, DJ James Kennedy was doing the after party.

I have been at many events that James Kennedy has DJ'd, and he's the real fucking deal.

Tot man.

No, he doesn't play his own music.

He plays like that one song.

She's bad, man.

She's

good.

But

he's actually a pretty good DJ.

Like, he gets lit.

You know, the way he presses play on that AJ is so unique.

Never been done before.

No, he's actually pretty good.

Like, he's a good DJ for a wedding after party.

With all your friends and your friends' DJ.

It's hard to find a DJ for the after party.

Who knows a DJ?

No, I know.

I know a playlist.

That's

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Quarnstein's.

It's a very mellow, chill playlist.

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Next up, Nicole Kidman has lit the internet ablaze with her new tone muscles and her cover shoot for the magazine called Perfect.

Have you seen these pics?

A fake magazine called Perfect.

It's a UK magazine.

No one's talked about the magazine.

We're talking about the pictures.

Oh my God.

By the way,

celebrities are always on the cover of fake magazines, like

Grazia, you know, like, yeah.

Wonderland.

Yep.

And I always wonder, like, how these random magazines get celebrities to be on the cover.

Like, it's always going to be a good idea.

I think it's a combination of things.

One, I think when you're really into that world, you know, Wonderland is major.

But also, like, if a photographer, certain photographer, like, wants to work with you, if you have a thing to promote, if there's like a fashion thing element, like these pictures, right?

Grazia, from at least my point of view, like started out as a fake magazine.

And now I think it's like pretty legit.

Yeah.

But it's giving Lydia from Real House Eyes of Orange County, Nobleman.

Yeah.

I mean, Nobleman has a lot of noblemen on the cover.

They actually had someone

pretty famous on the cover at one point.

Do you remember who I'm talking about?

Yes, but I feel like it was like Matt Damon or something.

It was like someone's legit.

And I was like, Lydia.

Go off.

Well, no, Nicole Kidman is on the cover looking buff as hell, and everyone is shook up.

She's showing off some seriously toned biceps, adds, and quads in the photo while wearing a colorful diesel tank top and modified gray belt turn skirt with a very mod haircut that I do not believe is her actual hair.

Short in the front, long in the back.

And is she...

Looking like this for a particular role, or that's just what she looks like on a day-to-day basis?

It's giving that's what she looks like on a day-to-day basis.

I mean, I don't know what she has coming up next, but she is shredded.

And Nicole Kidman is like so many things.

And she's one of the most gorgeous, gorgeous women ever.

And I just never would have predicted that like she's fucking swole, bro.

Yeah.

No, she'll beat you up.

She's swole as hell.

I mean, you have to think, like, she had to be in good shape to get away from that scary ass motherfucker, Tom Cruise, like, and Scientology as a whole.

You can't just run away if you're not in good shape, you know?

It's true.

So I always knew she was mentally very strong, you know speaking of scientology you never told us you're leah reminisc

no tea but like there are reports from like totally unsubstantiated and like un

what's the word i'm looking for reliable sources that like there is you know a break in the friendship and that you know her relationship with ben affleck was the like catalyst for them you know

taking time apart leah and j low whoa

but it's totally like it's like it's like Hollywood Unlocked.

Like, it's not.

It's not

until it's not just like Kim and Pete breaking up.

Just like Kim and Pete being together and Kim and Pete breaking up.

Yeah.

But Nicole Kidman.

I love this woman.

I, you know, there are many people in Hollywood.

Like if I, if I had to, even if I liked them a lot, like I could say negative things about, you know?

Even people I love.

Like if I had to come up with something mean to say, like, I could.

I literally have scoured every corner of my mind looking for something negative to say about Nicole Kidman, and I truly can't.

Yeah.

Queen.

Queen on her queen shit.

Oh, also, I don't know if you saw this report about Andrew Garfield.

No, I saw his name, but he's something about a role.

Yeah, so he went on a crazy diet for six months, you know, to get in shape.

And I'm curious where Lily Reinhart is.

Yeah, she's been really quiet.

Yeah,

I just think, where are all the people who were like coming at Kim for wanting to get into shape for the Met Gala?

Andrew Garfield did it.

Where's Andrew?

You're setting a bad example.

Such a terrible example.

Also, Lily Ryan

has a new movie on Netflix that looks really good.

Yes, a lot of people are talking about it.

It's giving Gwyneth Paltrow sliding doors.

Like, you know, if you made this train, your life would have been this way.

But if you'd missed the train, your life would have ended out completely differently.

You know, very butterfly effect.

Yeah.

Similar, but not similar.

And it looks pretty good.

People are talking about it.

It does look good.

I hope to watch it someday, you know, if I find the time.

It's something that I would have watched in a heartbeat like a year ago.

Netflix is getting their claws into the Riverdale cast.

I'm sure they saw how well Riverdale performed on Netflix after the show would rap on CW.

They have a new, I think it's a show or a movie with

Camilla Mendez that looks also really good, giving high school realness.

And I love that for them.

Like good, good call.

Yeah, agreed.

They should also really pick up Dynasty.

Cast.

Or the show.

They do.

No, like pick it up officially.

Oh, and create more seasons.

Yeah.

It has a huge international following on Netflix.

I think actually Dynasty made more money for Netflix than the CW made.

Yeah.

So it would kind of behoove them to do what they did with like Gilmore Girls, you know?

Yeah, I would love that.

Or arrested development.

Right.

Are you ready for our next story?

Just some positive relationship news.

So refreshing.

We haven't spoken about them in a while, but I just want everyone to know that Channing Tatum and Zoe Kravitz have celebrated their one-year anniversary.

They have now hit the one-year mark.

And that's why.

Sources by.

Sources are saying it's serious.

I mean, at one year, it's just like Ramona Singer says, like, you need to know someone through every season.

And then it's serious.

So

they have celebrated winter, spring, summer, and fall together.

How old is Channing and how old is Zoe Kravitz?

Channing is 42.

Zoe Kravitz is 33.

Okay, that's a nice age.

And does Zoe Kravitz have kids?

No.

No.

No.

I don't think so.

Because I wonder if that's like a next step for them.

Like, he has a family with Jen and Duane.

Like, that part of his life is like almost behind him, but she's 10 years younger.

And like, that could be something she wants.

He only has, he has one daughter.

So.

Oh, okay.

It could go either way.

Yeah, I also feel feel like when he very briefly dated Jesse

Jane?

Jesse J.

Jesse J.

Sorry.

Oh my God.

There's so many Jesse's, you know?

Jesse James, Jesse James Stacker, Jesse J.

Jesse Gardner.

I feel like when he was briefly dating her was the time when she was like talking a lot about her fertility and like her struggles with getting pregnant, almost as if like they were working on it together, you know?

Oh, yeah.

So I think he does want more kids.

Like I think this relationship has potential, like to have legs.

Totally.

Well, Asaurus is telling people that they are very happy.

Their careers are a big focus and they share this passion.

When they're off, they're very low-key.

They enjoy quiet date nights with friends, but most often just hang out at home.

Channing is serious about Zoe.

It's not a casual relationship.

They have been exclusive for a long time.

I mean, I hear that.

I hear that.

I've totally forgotten about them, which is always a good sign of a public relationship.

Yeah.

Like they're just so blissfully happy to be annoying.

I want everyone to have that bit of good news today.

Like know that our ships are out to sea.

We only report whether they're, when they're sinking or they're like fledgling new baby ships, but not about like these rock solid couples that you would have never put these two together, but they're making it work.

I couldn't have said it better myself, truly.

Great.

So now are you ready for our fifth and final story?

I am.

Yes.

Yes, I am.

It's a little true crime toast.

Yeah, because it has a social media component, which is where we come in.

So I don't know if you've been following this story, but a missing California team named Keely Rodney has been missing for a few weeks and law enforcement has been looking for her.

But a bunch of YouTube divers did in 35 minutes what cops couldn't do in two weeks in the search for her.

And they found her car and her body in a lake.

The deep, oh, I saw this on TikTok.

The deep diving YouTubers who claim to have found missing California teen Keely Rodney said Monday it took them just 35 minutes, even though authorities had spent nearly 20,000 man hours failing to find her.

Adventures with Purpose started searching Prosser Creek Reserve Reservoir early Sunday and almost immediately found what they believe is 16-year-old's 2013 CR-V with a body inside, they said Monday.

It has now been confirmed that that is her.

They said terrible.

We began our search for Keely at 10.40 a.m., lead investigator Doug Bishop said in an update on Monday.

By 11.15 a.m., one of the volunteers detected an object underwater using cutting-edge sonar technology.

They knew it was a car in roughly 14 feet of water and only 55 feet offshore, with divers soon confirming it was indeed Kylie's vehicle.

We immediately notified family and law enforcement, and her dad and grandpa were on the scene within minutes.

Also,

they have solved 23 other cold cases, this team of divers and

YouTubers.

Wow.

Okay, so I actually had seen this on TikTok.

There was like news footage going around because the reservoir where they found her lake, like had already been cleared by police.

Like they were like, yeah, we looked.

It's not there.

Oh.

Which is a huge stain on the police department.

Like, come on, seriously?

Yeah.

Like a bunch of amateurs can find it and you already looked there.

Well, they're not amateurs, but they there's no reason clear.

There's no reason why they should have access to better technology, better resources, and manpower than law enforcement themselves.

That's true.

And I think that's an important point is that these people are not amateurs because I think people, you know, listen to one true crime podcast and start like sniffing around national parks for clues.

And

I think a lot of the times people who have their like good intentions just get in the way and make more of an issue for police.

But it's nice that, you know, there's a happy ending here.

Yeah.

Well, not a happy ending, obviously.

Like a terrible, it's a terrible story that a young girl is dead.

Yes, but to have a conclusion and to have answers.

Do we have any answers as to like, was this nefarious?

Like, did she, was it an accident?

Would someone put her at the bottom of the reservoir?

I personally, I don't know, and I think it's too soon to tell, but hopefully, we'll have answers soon.

But the founder of Adventures with Purpose said that he started the group in July 2018 using his diving skills to clean up underwater habitats riddled with garbage.

But then a family reached out to them in 2019 asking if they might be able to use their skills to help find a missing loved one.

And he put their skills to good use.

Since then, they have helped families find closure through their search missions, including this particular one.

203 cold cases solved.

See, stuff like this happens a lot.

Like on TikTok, sometimes I'll get, there's a lot of people who go magnet fishing, which is like you throw this very, very high-powered magnet into like a lake, a stream, any sort of body of water.

And it can attract anything metal

from like 20 feet away.

It's like very, very powerful.

And sometimes they find, you know, weapons that were used in like cold cases.

So things like that happen.

They can find a car.

So while I don't think it's like good for people, like anyone to encourage, you know, regular people to put themselves in danger and like get in the way of police work, sometimes it does.

Like even with Gabby Petito, you know, there was footage from like another, you know, group of people who were camping or vanning through national parks and they had footage like that actually helped the investigation.

So sometimes it's good, but sometimes it's not.

Yeah, I think in this particular case, I don't think the message should be like more people should get out there and try deep diving.

But I think that perhaps this team could be training law enforcement around the country, things like that.

No, like they need a government contract.

Yeah.

They're doing good work.

And that's, you'd love to see internet people making a difference.

You love to see internet people making a difference.

And I'm just really.

Terrible story about this girl.

I'm wishing her family, you know, peace in the upcoming weeks.

It's going to be tough.

Yeah.

Wow.

Unexpected true crime moment.

I I know, but I know how everyone responded to the true crime moment that you shared last week.

Plus, with the social media component, I actually found that to be a very riveting headline.

I also found the conversation that we had about true crime podcasts last week to be really interesting because we got a lot of good feedback.

That a lot of like the really big true crime podcasts, like what's the big one?

Crime junkies, more

big

true, true, crime junkies, drunkies, crime junkies,

that they work with, you know, the families to raise money.

They work with all these great organizations, which was great.

But then it got me thinking, um, and this is something I feel like Shannon Ford brought up to me once, because we're obsessed with like watching the podcast charts.

Morbid is the name of like a really popular true crime podcast, right?

Yeah.

And they're in comedy.

Yeah.

How?

What's funny about crime?

I don't know.

I've never listened to it, so maybe it is funny, but like seems like a weird choice.

Yeah, you have, you would have to listen to it to make that judgment.

And it's not just me saying that because they're always ahead of us.

But on its face, yeah, what's funny?

I don't know.

Yeah, it seems like a very kind of insensitive category.

But again, I don't know.

Maybe we should listen.

Nah, I'd rather listen to The Morning Toast or Good Guys or Mood with Lauren Elizabeth or The Snatchler or Caviar Dreams with Margaret Josephs or Girls Night with Alexis Wetters or The Redheads Book Club because I heard it's never too late to become a redhead or probably a podcast with Shannon Ford.

It's never too late to become a Redhead.

Thank you for resurfacing that.

I just want to circle back to something from the beginning of the show.

We're recording our episode next week.

Today would be the perfect time to decide to become a redhead and finish the book in time for next Thursday's episode.

This is your sign.

This is your sign.

If you've been looking for one, maybe feeling like, oh no, everyone who's a redhead, like they have too many inside jokes.

I'll never get it.

If I listen to the episode, I won't know about the girls or who's who.

It's not like that.

It's never like that.

You know what you should do?

An intro, like an introductory intro to Redheads um that you can kind of just leave in the app store bios on everyone how you all know each other whose book type is what yeah that's a good idea that is a good idea you're well you're welcome i'll talk to the girls try and get another it's hard enough finding one time a month it only needs to be like 20 minutes doesn't need to be like a whole long essay i know but we like to we really like put a lot of quality into everything that we do like nothing at the redheads is below that standard

and by the way i think on a lot of podcast platforms you can have have like an intro

stay at the top.

Yeah.

So that every time someone comes to the Red Heads, it comes up right first and then into the episodes, which I think is cool.

Okay, we'll work on that.

Yeah, just letting you know.

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Agreed.

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For now, rebrands are coming like

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My husband and I recently moved from the city to the suburbs about a year ago.

My husband has two good friends that still live in the city.

So occasionally, if they all hang out, at our house, they end up staying super late, drinking, coming back to our house, making late-night food, and then just sleeping over when they sleep at our house they're set up in the living room on a pull-out couch we have a small house and no guest room we have a baby and a dog so in the morning i have to go into the kitchen which is connected to the living room to make a bottle make coffee feed our dog let him out etc i have to i feel like i have to be quiet and not wake anyone up mind you it's at like six or seven a.m when the baby wakes up but sometimes they'll sleep till like 11 or so i feel trapped upstairs when they wake up until they wake up and leave.

They are respectful, they clean up after themselves, and they always thank us for our hospitality.

I understand the occasional staying the night if they've had too much to drink, but sometimes it is it isn't planned.

Is it just me or is it weird that 30-year-olds still have sleepovers?

I wanted to get your thoughts.

Thank you.

That's a little not

the vibe, you know, especially.

It's a little weird.

Like, it's not necessarily weird.

You know, it's nice that he's still close with his city friends and that they feel comfortable enough and that like, you know, them, you guys being in the suburbs isn't going to stop them from doing what they want all night.

And if that means they're going to be safe and then they crash at your place, it's really nice that they still have that relationship.

But there's a time and a place and a season for everything.

And having guys crash on your couch while you have a newborn baby, like it's just not the time or the place.

So I would just say something to your husband and just try and figure out like a better

solve.

Yeah.

And I don't think you would be having this problem if they weren't sleeping in the living room.

Yeah.

Right.

Yeah.

So I would get creative with like futons in whatever other room you have, whether it's an office, like something, like a den.

I don't know what the house looks like.

And if this is truly your only option, then that's it.

But try and think creatively because it is really annoying.

Like it halts your whole fucking day when you can't even make a peep in the living, in the main living space.

How often is this happening that it actually is like bothering you to this point?

Because if it was like a once, you know, in a blue moon thing, you wouldn't be writing in.

Like, is this happening?

every few weeks?

If so, like they need to set a time for the night to be over and have their Uber take them back to the city.

Like you're not being, even if it's 3 a.m like they need to know that that's when they're going or a hotel airbnb

yeah like i don't want to discourage your husband from like hanging on to friendships just because you guys moved like it shouldn't really change anything but you're also in this transitional period in your life and like when you have a baby like you have to be selfish and that means your husband's 30 year old friends can't sleep on the couch honestly like grow up yeah especially if it's becoming this regular yeah if it's like once every six months okay but if it's like once a month like that's fucking annoying yeah and like and also like at some point have the uber men are too grown have the uber men are too grown to be having sleepovers i'm sorry i said it and mostly especially your husband like he's married he has a baby like what's he doing once a month up till 3 a.m sleeping on the couch like nah yeah there's a time and a place and a season and this is not the season for that

So you mama, like you have to channel your mama energy and do what's best for you and your family and your baby.

And your dog.

Right.

Literally, the dog has to shit so bad, can't get anywhere because fucking slobs living in the living room.

And maybe he's a little poop shy and he's like, oh no, there's guys on my couch.

And he's just expected to take a dump in front of these two random people.

No, that's, he doesn't feel like that.

Think of your dog.

Hey, Jackson, Claude.

We are two OGs writing in.

We've been fans since the breath and we cannot wait to see you in Charlotte.

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We're in a pickle and we need your help.

Our best friend Margo has been dating a PJOM named Bryce for about five years.

They're getting engaged any day now and Margo has never been happier.

There's just one problem.

We are 99.9% sure that Bryce is gay.

When they first started dating, we definitely noticed he was a bit on the feminine side, super trendy and stylish, pretty flamboyant, but we didn't think much of it.

Over the last couple of years, some things have come to light from Bryce's friends.

His friend group consists of girls and openly gay men, and we've met a majority of them.

Bryce's friends have shared with us that right before Margo and Bryce started dating, Bryce had taken a secret trip to Paris with his openly gay best friend, Theo.

Bryce and Theo then moved in together, and soon after that, Bryce and Margo started dating.

We also ran into Bryce a few weeks ago while he was at brunch with his friends, which was 12 girls plus him.

And the way they were interacting was as if he was the gay best friend.

We have an openly gay best friend in our group, and the brunch encounter we saw him was giving very much similar vibes to how we hang out with our gay bestie.

We have a lot of gay friends, and every time one of them has met Bryce, they've asked if he was gay.

We could go on for days about all the suspicions, but trying to keep it short.

Our main concern is that do we let Margo marry this man and then in 10 years when they're married with kids, it will come out and they'll get divorced.

Meanwhile, we're the awful friends who knew Bryce was gay all along.

Bryce treats Margo like a queen and we would hate to ruin her happiness by bringing this to light.

She's extremely sensitive and this would absolutely destroy her.

What do we do?

Do we mind our own business to spare her feelings?

Are we horrible friends for not voicing our concerns?

Sincerely, two toasters who probably should have addressed this years ago.

Okay, a lot to unpack here, but first, the first thing I want to say is like

a lot of what you're saying that you're seeing is like stuff that everyone else is seeing, including

including her, like his personality, flamboyancy, like, you know, close male friendships, close female friendships.

Like she's privy to all of these things that you're privy to.

So like you're not telling her that like the way that you're not telling her new information.

Also, I mean, if this was my almost fiancé, like I would want to know that he's at brunch with 12 girls.

Like the fuck are you doing there?

That's also nefarious.

Imagine like your boyfriend's at brunch with 12 girls.

I would want to know that.

So that shouldn't have to be like a big sit-down.

You're just like, by the way, I saw Bryce at brunch with 12 girls.

Like, you're cool with that?

Why weren't you the 13th?

Like, that's where my mind would go.

See, my opinion on this has changed recently because.

I feel like I was in a similar situation with somebody that I knew who everyone was like when we were growing up, like, oh, he's gay.

He's always hanging out with the girls.

But he wasn't.

Like, he just had, you know, great great female friendships.

Um, and it wasn't weird, and then people eventually stopped, you know, saying it.

Um, but then he came out.

So at first, I would have been like, you know, if he's doing all this and he's comfortable, like, being, you know, friends with gay guys and going on trips with them and hanging out with a lot of girls, like somebody who's in the closet wouldn't do that.

But now I don't know because right, but okay,

yes, but so say he had a girlfriend for five years.

What would you tell her that she doesn't already know and see with her own two eyes?

Right, that's true.

That's true.

I wasn't saying

anything.

And she's the one who's like having sex with him.

Like, she would know

more than you do.

Is it possible, by the way, that he's bi and she knows and maybe they don't need to talk about it to everyone and put their label everywhere?

Like, you don't know what they know.

Right.

So the only thing that...

It sounds like maybe she doesn't know because you just found this out is that the trip to Paris with Theo and living together.

So I would just like be like, by the way, I didn't know that Bryce and Theo like went to Paris Paris together, like and lived together.

Like, how is that?

Yeah.

And just in case she didn't already know, don't act like they're telling her.

Just make sure that she knows by

mentioning it.

The most important point was the one that you made, which is like everything that you are privy to, she is privy to as well.

Like, she's not blind.

She sees what you see.

And either they've spoken about it or she doesn't care.

Like, she wants to get married.

She wants to be in a relationship.

So I don't really think

there's anything you can do.

Just make sure you bring up Paris with Theo.

Yeah.

That's the whole thing.

And you can poke and prod, but

when you see her man at Brunch with 12 girls, like tell her that you saw that, regardless of

sexual orientation.

She might like start to get annoyed with you.

No, but you don't have to be a snitch.

Just be like...

Yeah.

Well, the Brunch with 12 girls is, yeah, snitchery.

Snitchy behavior.

But the Paris with Theo, like, that's, you know,

just interesting factories.

Yeah, of information.

Like I'm planning a trip to Paris.

Like, can I ask Bryce about his trip with Theo?

What'd they do?

Love that.

Love.

Best of luck, truly.

Hello, Jackson Cloud and Brasensra.

Hello.

I hope you're well, because I am not.

Long story short, we had an event at my work.

where an esthetician was there performing mini facials.

She doesn't have a spa and she travels to people's houses.

While she was there, she mentioned that I should book her and that she would hook it up.

I texted her last week and she said, oh, I would love to treat you to a facial.

I think, oh, oh, so nice, a free facial.

I say to her, oh my God, a treat that is so generous.

You don't have to do that.

She then says it's her pleasure and would love to do so.

She sends a booking and the price says $0.

Fast forward, she gets to my house, does the facial and then goes, okay, so I'll do $20 off today.

It'll be $200.

I was literally so flabbergasted and I told her that I thought this was free and she basically gaslit me into thinking that I was wrong.

I was so shocked.

I paid her on my credit card just to get her out of my house.

My question is: Should I charge back my card?

Should I tell her how grossly uncomfortable I felt in my own home so she doesn't have to do this again to anyone?

I completely forgot this ever happened, or should I completely forget this ever happened and block her number?

I know this is partially my fault, and that I should have clarified, but I was completely misled, and she just let me take it and run.

I just feel like she has to know how awful this was, and she should have just said, Hey,

my problem, it's free.

Sorry.

I have literally lost sleep over this.

I feel so dumb.

And not only was this 200, was this facial facial $200 astronomical for a facial, but I could get one for half the price at event spa.

Sincerely, a now poor toaster.

Okay.

Unless you're going to be running into this girly, like I would just block, forget, move on.

But like, if you're going to be seeing her a lot, maybe it's worth, you know, fixing.

But at this point, she's a stranger.

You know, she gave you a facial one time.

No, but I think that this is this person's like marketing tactic.

I think that this wasn't an accident.

I don't think that there was a miscommunication.

I think that she wanted you to think you were getting a free facial, hoodwinked you into getting that facial and then came in with that.

Like it said price $0.

She said she wanted to treat you to a facial.

Like I think like this person is kind of running a scheme here.

Now you should report her to the better business people.

I don't know what you do with that information and like who you even tell her.

Like you leave a Yelp review or something.

The BBB.

But I don't think that was an accident.

I think that you do have to.

pay her for the service because it like wasn't

you know in writing or anything that this was going to be even though it was but it was it said zero dollars i know but that's in the booking shady business and i don't think you should feel stupid because she

she hoodwinked you she did that on purpose i don't think i think she did that on purpose i don't think you should feel stupid but i think it's the important lesson is like nothing there's no such thing as a free lunch no but sometimes there really is like

Sometimes there really is.

And especially.

Why would this random woman give a girl a facial who she met one time at a work event?

Maybe like it was to show her how good the facial, like it could be marketing.

I'll give you a free facial thing.

I'll be my facials.

But no, instead, this is what she's doing, like tricking people and to spending $200 with her.

Well, you know what I would do?

I would like go search Yelp, her Instagram comments, the Better Business Bureau, see if anyone else has complained about this or she just like wanted to dupe you, even though I'm sure it's a pattern.

Make sure that like this is something she frequently does and then blow her up.

Seriously, that's what the Better Business Bureau is for.

Yeah.

Okay.

Good idea.

I do think I think that you have to pay it because it's really like...

She paid it already, but she's saying, should I call my credit card company and like...

And not pay it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's like,

I don't know, because like, what if it was just like a genuine miscommunication and then you're like taking money out of her pocket, you know?

From the way she's describing it, I really don't think it was a miscommunication.

Oh, well, you know what?

I would do your research, see if anyone else has said anything similar.

And if they have, charge that bitch back on the credit card.

Yeah.

You just need a little bit of certainty, a little bit of proof that you're not the only one.

I don't think you're the only one.

I think you were taken advantage of.

Me too.

I think it's a pattern.

It's giving Netflix documentary.

Yeah.

It's giving the polka king.

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