S5 Ep16: Popping Off With Purpose with Brian Kelly: Wednesday, January 26th, 2022

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Good morning, Millennials.

Welcome back to the Morning Toast.

Happy Wednesday, happy hump day.

And Claudia, you are in studio.

Ugh, I miss the toasty vibes.

How's it going over there?

It's good.

Yes, I came into studio today because today's episode, if you're listening as a podcast, right at the end, we're doing a really hard-hitting interview with Brian Kelly, who's been in the news a lot.

I don't know if you guys know, Brian and his company are suing American Airlines.

American Airlines is suing them.

It's like all this drama.

And I kind of just wanted to break it down because it's important for us as consumers to know.

And then we also had to like do housewives chat.

And he did top 10, one of the best housewives impressions I've ever seen in my life of Noella.

Jackie, I was, I couldn't breathe.

Like, I actually couldn't.

I'm sure it's so good.

Wow.

I can't wait to listen to that.

I'm so interested by this American Airlines suits.

I'm excited to watch your interview.

Yeah.

Because I think it's going to set an interesting precedent, like whichever way it goes, because these tools, like the Point Sky app, which is like so fabulous and you should have all of your information in one place, like they shouldn't be allowed to take that away.

No, totally.

And he's just out here fighting for the consumer.

And so I just wanted him to have a platform.

He's been doing a lot of press, but I want him to like sit down and explain because it's like kind of confusing.

Yeah.

And I just think we should be informed consumers.

And he's just like so funny and great on the podcast.

So I figured while I'm in studio, I might as well move things around.

And Jackie, we moved our couches so I could sit in front of our neon sign.

Underneath our couch, our carpet is bright white.

I guess I didn't realize how disgusting this carpet was until we moved the couches.

Wow.

I mean,

I think we did know.

We just didn't want to know.

I'm glad there's a there's a piece of it, though, that is still intact.

And I just don't know who these airlines think they are these days because it's like you guys need to figure your shit out.

And the last thing you should be worried about is Brian Kelly making our lives easier.

Totally.

And

you should be interested in making our lives easier as well and not starting stuff with the consumers.

So we could be loyal to you.

Right.

Because you make it really hard these days.

So it was a very eye-opening interview.

It was really fun.

It's at the end of the episode.

If you're on YouTube, we recorded in studio, so it'll be a separate video.

So it was just like fun to like sit down and chat.

And now that I've, we literally rearranged furniture, so I can do this show from here whenever I want.

And I think it looks premium.

It looks so premium.

I am working out my premium-ness.

You guys, you're not going to believe this, but my Costco order was canceled.

I can't with you.

I really can't.

But I have, I found another vendor.

I don't want to jinx it.

So it should be here by our next show, which is Monday, because you are hitting the road tomorrow for the N-log tour.

So Thursday and Friday, there is no regular morning toast, but there will be Patreon podcast episodes up.

We recorded one yesterday, Dear Toasters for the Patreon.

And you guys, you really,

you've got

some questions and quandaries, and we're here to help.

We did our best.

We don't want to miss it.

We really did our best sometimes.

I just feel so unqualified to be giving people advice, especially when they write in and they're like actually going through real like life changes and problems.

I'm like, who the hell am I?

No, I feel qualified to give the advice, but it's just, it's so hard to get the full picture from, you know, just a paragraph.

So we're working with limited information and we're doing the best that we can.

But I think that, I think we give really good advice.

I think we give very like

hamish,

wise, you know, nothing radical, just like good.

We're not radical girly.

No, just some good sound advice.

Yeah, I agree.

Yeah.

So you'll check that out tomorrow on patreon.com/slash morning toast.

But in the meantime, while we still have you, we have a great show.

So jam-packed.

Yes.

Vanderpump Rules Recap, Fast Five, of course, interview with Brian Kelly.

I actually really enjoyed enjoyed the Vanderpump Rules reunion last night.

Same.

Even though I had a lot of problems with some of the logistics, like not really understanding why people were recording from home.

And then once they were home, they weren't even in the first 30 minutes of the episode.

Why?

Why?

Because I think it would have been annoying to have them like chiming in from home.

They didn't want it to be a remote.

reunion again.

And I think what from what I understood like they were sick and I think they probably didn't know what it was or COVID test pending or maybe they just had COVID or were exposed in like a very real way and it just you know that goes against COVID protocols so they had to do it from home but yeah no not having Lala like just on site definitely was a loss for me I couldn't agree more such a loss but the worse the season the better the reunion the ergo it's been a nice reunion so far I agree.

I'm excited to talk about it in the TV recap and just generally just like chill with you, Jax.

Like love to chill.

Are you okay?

I love to chill.

What's wrong?

I'm just so excited to chill.

Who are you?

Chill.

Are you going to be okay?

No, I'm running on overdrive.

This has been the busiest week ever.

Yesterday was the longest day of my life, and I capped it off with my Barnes and Noble book club, which was so fun.

Like, just love talking about myself.

Taylor Strecker.

Taylor Strecker, one year later, finally read my book, and she literally finished it like a minute before the Barnes and Noble thing started.

And so she had so many questions.

I actually had forgotten, like, she played an integral role.

I didn't name her in the book, but she was the person in my book who told me at my first shows back at Caroline's that like people were planning planning to protest me doing comedy.

And she was like, I can't believe that was me.

And she had such a pitch.

She was like, should I have not told you that?

I'm like, no, no, no.

This book was not meant to like bring up, you know, skeletons.

It's all good.

Oh my God, that's so, I didn't realize that was her.

That seems like such a long time ago.

I know.

And I'm so glad and jealous of her that she had the experience of reading the book for the first time most recently.

She said, she's so funny.

She's such a grandma.

She was like, I listened to the book on tape.

Is that okay?

I'm like, the book on tape.

Oh, the audible.

Oh, yeah, the audiobook.

And I'm like, yeah, girl, that's fine.

I worked super hard on the audiobook.

Check it out.

A lot of the redheads in the Redheads Facebook group ask the question constantly, does it count that you've read a book if it's an audiobook?

1,000%, yes.

100%.

100%.

Don't

let them forget.

Like, you guys, you need to give yourself some credit.

You got to the moral of the story.

You read the book.

100%.

It totally counts, like, in my mind.

And anyone who says otherwise is just like a snob.

Yeah, for real.

Next, I'll be saying reading on Kindle doesn't count.

Oh, please.

Nuts.

I actually finished my book last night, Maybe You Should Talk to Someone by Lori Gottlieb.

And it was no Good Morning Monster.

And

you see that Lauren Bostic and Dear Media are turning Good Morning Monster into like a scripted podcast.

Yes, I did.

It's going to, that's going to be so good with option for TV, which is going to be so good.

You know what's so cool about Lauren and Michael?

Like they told us they were like trying to do that and they actually did it.

Yeah.

No, they people say stuff all the time.

They get stuff done.

Yeah.

Um, so yes, it was a busy day, and we're going into an even busier weekend with my shows.

I'm really excited, so that's why I was just acting all weird.

I'm like, I might be short-circuiting, okay.

Let us know, keep us posted on your circuits, and we'll do we're here for you, and this is a safe space where you can act as erratic as you want, really.

Yeah, I just want to just make sure, check in with you, that like you are okay.

Currently, yes, I saw you drinking a soda, and it's like a little, maybe that's the reason.

Well, we have, that's possible, but we haven't been in this studio in literally two months because of COVID.

So there aren't many drinks.

It was either this or a Spritz.

And so I thought this was more responsible.

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Oh my God.

Imagine if you start drinking.

I guess that's when you'll know.

Like if you ever, that's the line.

Like if you're ever drinking on this show.

But I don't know, as we keep doing it later and later, the line starts to blur.

Agreed.

Oh, also,

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When do you leave for this n-log?

Tomorrow morning.

Okay, cool.

Well, we'll bid you adieu bon voyage.

And I think without further ado.

Well, you know what's so funny?

Bid you adieu.

Do you know that I somehow ended up on Wordle Talk where people just like discuss tips and tricks for doing Wordle?

Okay.

And something really smart that people do is they do you have like a go-to word that you always guess first?

I have like one or two, yeah.

So I guess like statistically a really helpful word to use is adieu because it uses four out of five vowels.

So you know immediately which vowels are in it and which are not.

That's a really good tip and trick.

What is your go-to word?

It's either great or price.

I don't know why.

Mine is ghost

and then because it has some quirky letters in it and S-T are very popular.

And if there's nothing in there that's part of it, then I use the word break.

A-K-E or E-A-K?

E-A-K, but it would be the same thing because it doesn't have any of the same letters as as ghost.

Got it.

Oh, that's okay.

But maybe a die would be accomplishing more.

To be honest, like, I just really like the chaotic way that I start.

So I'm not going to adapt this Ado

technology, but some people are saying it's like statistically a helpful way to start.

I'm sure it is, but now it also feels a little like cheating, like knowing that.

Agreed.

So

I'm just going back to my ghost spooky vibes.

Will she get the Wordle of the Day?

We'll never know.

You didn't get yesterday's wordle.

No, that was the first time I didn't get it.

I got it on the third try.

No, wait, sorry.

Yesterday's sugar, yeah, I got it on the third try.

The day before yesterday, Grassy Knoll.

Got it.

I got Grassy Knoll on the fourth try, I think.

No, you said fifth.

It's fine.

On the fifth try?

Okay.

I sent it to you because I was so proud.

So I have nothing to hide.

I'm not hiding anything.

I'm just.

No, I never said you were.

I never said you were.

Okay.

Now, without further ado, even though it's the ado that's spelled differently than the wordle ado, I believe.

I believe as well.

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Great.

Okay, let's get into the stories.

Lots to chat about today.

First up, Jenny Wen has been fired from the Real Houses of Salt Lake City amid backlash from controversial social media posts.

So Bravo posted a statement yesterday saying Bravo has ceased filming with Jenny Wen, and she will no longer be a cast member on the Real House Eyes.

of Salt Lake City.

We recognize we failed to take appropriate action once her offensive social media posts were brought to our attention.

Moving forward, we will work to improve our processes to ensure we make better informed and more thoughtful casting decisions.

Then Jenny posted last night to her Instagram and Twitter that she's going to be speaking out today, speaking her truth and answering questions.

That has not happened yet, but TBD on what she will say.

And just content warning.

At the end of the episode, me and Brian do talk about this again.

So I want to hear your take, but we did discuss it.

Yeah, so we saw this this week and we also, I had seen that she was filming with the ladies, So I figured that this was going to be addressed on this next season They had just filmed the reunion otherwise it would have come up at the reunion and

I I don't know why I was really surprised that Bravo dropped the axe here on her.

I feel like it's been a while since we've had one of these like cancellation situations and in all that time like everyone you know would say they're against cancel culture but like this seems like textbook cancel culture to me and I just don't know how productive it is to just like fire her goodbye as opposed to like if she did film with the women they all have a lot to say about this that's true and they could have conversations and actually like leave room for like growth understanding healing but like stuff like this just like cements a divide and a misunderstanding between people and leaves like no opportunity for learning so I just I don't I don't think it I don't think it's that productive to do it this way and if they really wanted I think it could be so much more powerful to just to talk about these things instead especially since the women have really strong opinions about it.

No, I agree in theory, but like I just fucking hate Jenny.

So like, you know what?

Goodbye.

Like she added nothing of value to the show.

And honestly, I don't think she does a really good job of getting her point across when it's about, you know, dumb housewives drama.

I don't know how good of a job she could have done talking about the political climate and racial issues.

No, I agree with that.

And also, you know, she's not, hasn't been my favorite housewife either.

So it's not like this huge loss.

And I think a lot of people feel that way.

They're like, okay, bye, Jenny.

Like we didn't care that much anyway.

But it just also made me think about like the way that Bravo handles these things in general and all the different paths that they've taken and what I think in hindsight has been like the best course of action.

Cause like this reminds me of a lot of different things that have happened.

First of all, like Leanne being fired from your house size of Dallas.

But see, Leanne's situation reminds me most of Mary.

Mayor of the mother because they both said egregious things on camera, which in my opinion, not that anything is worse or better, because what Jenny posted like about killing protesters, like that's horrible.

But doesn't it seem like it would be a worse offense if we're just like, if we're categorizing these things, which I guess we are, doesn't it seem like a worse offense to say something derogatory and racist on the show?

Yeah, no.

And that's why I was actually really supportive, even though I'm super against cancel culture.

Like, I actually thought Leanne going, like, was the right move.

Yeah, at the time.

But then it's like, okay, so.

Let's also talk about what happened with Mary this season and how she offended Jenny and everyone.

And the whole Mexican community.

Right.

Oh, right.

And everyone would have expected that she would be fired after the reunion for those comments because it's really like the same thing as what happened to Leanne, but that we never got there because she didn't show up to the reunion.

Then we also have like Kristen and Stasi on Vanderpunk Rules who were fired.

But then I think, and then we also have like Brandy.

on Real House Eyes of Dallas.

Yes.

I forgot about that.

The season where, you know, she's really grappling with the mistake that she made.

And she has a lot of conversations with Tiffany Moon about the hurt that she caused.

And I felt like that was productive.

That's actually a really good point.

And even though this past season of Real House Eyes of New York City was so painful to watch,

I felt like there were moments when they were having real conversations about things, even though at the time it was just like, no one wants to.

It was like messy and there was so much other like not.

enjoyable things about the season.

But I felt like they were really like moving the the ball in terms of like understanding each other and growing and learning from stuff as opposed to just like shutting people down when they say the wrong thing.

Yeah, I mean, I guess we have to hear what, where Jenny stands.

Like, it's very possible that she's going to tell her truth.

Like, is she going to come on and stand by what she said, even though she did already release a statement?

And she apologized.

Yeah.

I don't know.

See, me and Brian were talking about this too.

I think there's, I don't know what the right way to handle it was, but there are definitely two schools of thought here.

People are like, get rid of her, or people are like, why why don't we hold her accountable on the season and have her, you know, sit face to face with, you know, all the women, including women of color, and justify, like, that's punishment.

It is.

No, but that's being held accountable.

You know, having to answer for what you've done and to, like, have conversations about it, as opposed to, like, just being fired.

I don't, I feel like being, the word accountable has just become a euphemism for being canceled.

Yeah.

No, I hear you.

I don't know what the right decision is, but I don't know what the right decision is.

I'm down with the firing because she sucks.

And I, like, yes, I'm not going to miss her as a housewife, though.

You know, I'm going to miss Carlin.

I know.

I know that this whole thing was really tough on you for Carlin.

But also, like, I take umbrage with Bravo for a number of reasons here.

Like, so, first of all, back to the Leanne thing.

I feel like they waited to see like how the audience was going to feel about it before they made a decision.

And then this season, like, really the exact same thing happened with Mary Cosby.

And if Bravo had any scruples, they would have fired her the next day day after those comments were made because, like, that's the precedent.

So, it just feels like they sort of wait around to see what everybody wants them to do.

And it doesn't come from a place of like they feel this way or they have strong principles.

It's just like, oh, well, it's performative.

It's actually the definition of performative.

And there's been a lot of critical feedback for Bravo, especially as it pertained to this issue.

Like, if you read their comments on the statement on Instagram, people are calling them out like hard.

I agree with you.

Like, they, there's no,

they don't have like a template that they follow.

They just like see what the reaction is.

Willy, nilly.

Yeah, it's, they're spineless.

Yeah, they don't, they have no scruples.

I completely agree.

Also, like, they go through extensive background checks.

These women, that's how Noella even found out that her husband was in debt.

It, like, blew up her entire life.

Like,

so, I mean, I can't imagine that they saw, like, they saw these posts and they hired her or, or, but how do they, you know, like to do it's messy.

Doing like someone's social media

history is like the text for background check these days.

So, I just

don't understand.

I agree.

No, it's been handled very poorly by Bravo, and it's

eliciting different reactions from people.

But I think overall, the message is like, okay, but what about Mary?

And also, a lot of the comments are okay from Mona.

Me and Brian were talking about that at the end of the episode because, like, you can't bring, that's the thing.

It's like, there's no equal,

there's no equality like yeah not equality but you know what i mean like they're not handling each situation the same yeah but also i feel like ramona messes up a lot on the show and says the wrong thing quite often is often like very ignorant and offensive and doesn't realize and she has moments of learning throughout the show and like i i do feel like from if years ago like she is a more understanding sympathetic person i don't know if everyone would agree with you on that but i hear you you know i so i feel like there's like opportunities for the viewers and for the ladies themselves to like learn from these situations.

And I just, I don't know that just like firing her just like that was the ultimately does anything productive or leads toward healing in general.

We're so divided.

Like, let's, let's bring people together and have some hard conversations.

Yeah, I think maybe they would have taken that route if Jenny was a housewife worth saving.

And that's really, at the end of the day, that's what it comes down to.

I'm sorry.

Okay.

Was not a housewife worth saving.

I think she gave, she gave nothing.

I think that's a fair assessment, and that could also explain why Ramona sticks around.

You know what?

Because say what you want about Ramona, she's deeply problematic.

She is entertaining.

She provides value to a franchise year after year.

Say what you want about her, but we're always talking about her.

I have not had one thing to say about Jenny this season, except cringe.

Yeah, and Carlin.

Sure.

Yeah, but Carlin's got her signed Saturdays, and she'll be okay.

She's going to be fine.

Yeah.

But Dewey might be, you know, looking for a new sister.

Right.

And then also it's like, so she said last week on the show that she broke her husband's ribs in a fit of anger.

Oh my God.

I totally forgot about that.

Like that, what?

That was giving Bronwyn.

Like,

what?

Why?

Why are we letting an actual abuser on the show?

It was so weird.

So again, just like their scruples are all over the place.

Agreed.

Oh my God, I totally forgot about that.

She's just so problematic.

She has to go.

Okay, well, she's gone.

And now they're down to five women.

Who knows if they'll bring someone else on?

But then also yesterday, Heather and Jen Shaw were spotted like outside Mary's church filming, like looking for Mary.

Yeah, also, Meredith, like responded to a tweet because someone was like, you shouldn't even be on the show.

Like, you don't even like these women and you're always walking away.

And she was like, no, like, you're right.

So, like, is she leaving also?

Yeah.

I don't know.

She is above it, in my opinion.

She is.

Maybe they'll bring in some new people.

I mean, I think they have to bring in new people now.

So we'll see what happens.

But it's not going to be Jenny.

No, but it's also interesting that they're filming while the season is still airing.

It feels like a very quick turnaround, does it not?

There's just a lot happening.

It does, but I also feel like Bravo is needing to make up for lost COVID time.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know, plus, with everything like changing by the day with Jensha, they don't want to miss anything.

Right, right, right.

Right.

Right, because we've totally gotten off track of that storyline.

Oh, yeah.

Goodbye.

Goodbye.

Are you ready for our next story?

I am.

I really, really am.

Kanye West is sitting down with Jason Lee of Hollywood Unlocked and sharing that he stopped a second sex tape of Kim and Ray J from leaking.

The Easy Designer told Jason Lee that despite his ongoing divorce from Kim, he allegedly did her the ultimate favor and got the tape back.

He said, I went and got the laptop from Ray J myself that night.

I met this man at the airport, then got on a red eye, came back, and delivered it to her at 8 8 a.m.

in the morning.

He said that Kim was so relieved at the sight of the laptop that she broke down in tears.

He said she cried when she saw it.

You know why she cried when she's seen it on the laptop?

Because it represents how much she's been used.

It represents how much people didn't love her and they just saw her as a commodity.

A spokesperson for Kim confirmed there was a laptop, but denied the existence of any explicit content.

They said the computer and hard drive collected were supposed to contain the original video and any unseen footage.

After review, there was nothing sexual unseen, only footage on the plane on the way to Mexico and footage at a club and restaurant on the same trip.

Kim remains firm in her belief that there is no new second sex tape that exists.

After 20 years, she truly wishes to move on from this chapter

and focus instead on the positive things she continues to do as a mother, entrepreneur, and advocate for justice reform.

Amen.

I've really had enough.

No, this story gives me a pit.

And you know what?

It feels very icky to me that Kanye is out doing a podcast.

And maybe this wasn't his intention or whatever, but he's out doing a podcast just like talking about his ex-wife, the mother of his children's sex tape.

Like, seriously,

this is like the first time

where, like, I actually cannot defend Kanye.

Like,

I'm actually upset.

I'm upset too.

I do feel like when he goes on these podcasts, especially like long form, he's just talking and he's not

thinking about like, you know, what this means and the fact that, like, after everything that Kim has been through, like, to bring it back to the sex tape, also, for you to go out of your way to like rescue her, quote unquote, and get the tape back only to tell everyone about it, what's the point?

So I, this story just like really

bothers me.

Me too.

And

it just Kim has come so far, and I'm sure it really bothers her too.

And you can tell from this statement, they're like, they're like fighting back.

But you know what?

Like, Kim, and I think she's maintained this, and I think she'll continue to maintain this philosophy for as long as she can.

Like, she will not say a bad word publicly about Kanye, but he's making it extremely difficult.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He's being like super like a dick.

No, just at public these days.

Like he should the kids, the security guards, they won't let me into Kylie's party.

Like doing the podcasts, like

come on the toast, Kanye, you have something you want to say?

Uh-oh.

Could we handle it?

Of course.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We could.

We could.

I.

Doesn't bode well.

There's a lot.

Like he's just every day.

It's something new with him, him and Juliet.

And it's just not not a recipe for it.

I'm over it.

Over it, and I'm

it's feeling inauthentic to say.

It's giving inauthenticity.

Yeah, it is.

So

that's that on that.

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Cardi B is speaking out after being awarded an additional $3 million in a slander lawsuit against a YouTuber.

So, Cardi B was awarded nearly

$3 million in punitive damages and attorneys' fees in her lawsuit against YouTuber Tasha Cabe, aka Tasha Kaye.

Jurors ruled on Tuesday that Cabe is responsible for $1 million in punitive damages.

Her company was ordered to pay an additional $500,000, and she will have to reimburse Cardi B for the rapper's legal costs, which add up to $1.3 million.

Cardi B said in a statement shared with People, after almost four years of repeated libel and slander against me, being able to walk away from this victorious brings me great happiness.

I appreciate Judge Ray for conducting a fair and impartial trial.

I'm grateful for the jury and their careful deliberation over the past two weeks.

I am profoundly grateful for the hard work and support from my legal team.

Most importantly, thank you to my family and close friends who held my hand and helped me get the support I needed during this experience.

You know, this is really crazy because

I actually love when celebrities win defamation suits because we just live in like a society and we have a legal system that like really doesn't protect public figures from people just saying whatever the fuck they want about them.

But I don't know, I feel a little conflicted that like this is

about a YouTuber.

Do you know what I mean?

It's not like, it's not like Cardi's suing, you know, BuzzFeed that has, like, million.

Like, I, I, I have to assume this YouTuber does not have $3 million.

Uh, it doesn't say, but it, the remarks, um,

in the lawsuit filed accused her of making malicious claims against her, such as alleging the rapper was a prostitute, cheated on her husband, used cocaine, and contracted herpes and HPV.

She also

said that when Cardi B was pregnant with her daughter culture, it could result in a child born with special needs.

Oh, okay, sorry, I totally take back what I said.

And though I don't know this YouTuber, um,

I'm sure it's like a gossip channel, and I'm sure that she has enough circulation, the fact that this even like reached Carl

and like really weighed heavily on her.

I think it was a source of a lot of like

sadness and depression for her.

And she talks about, you know, like the mental health consequences of being on the internet in general for like, you know, kids in school.

And she has the means and the resources to fight back against online bullies.

and that's what she's gonna do so i i think this is a good precedent to set yeah no it's true and it does definitely make you think about like social media

personalities as news sources and like where the accountability lies like honestly my first thought when i saw this was like dumois

And yeah,

it's like this gray area where you're not a news outlet, but you have an enormous platform.

And sometimes like you're just saying blanket things.

And does that include you?

Like, could you technically be liable in a defamation lawsuit?

And I think this sets like an interesting legal precedent.

Yeah,

I don't know how it works like all the time, but it's definitely an interesting

crossroads.

You know, it's just like a first-time thing.

It also reminds me of like Heather McDonald and the Jim, what was his name?

Jim Bellino.

Yeah, like she and Shannon, and she actually ended up winning her lawsuit, which was like a huge thing for podcasters.

But it's just like this gray area that we're now in where, like, podcasts and like this kind of grassroots type of media has just as much influence and as much of a platform as like major news outlets.

So, like, are you supposed, like, are we being held to the same standard?

It's just like an interesting conversation.

Yeah, it is.

And I think that you know,

these cases are very hard to win.

So, for the celebrities, so you know, there was clearly defamatory disgusting thing to say.

Like, oh my, no wonder, like, it obviously got bother Cardi.

Like, those are horrible things to say.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, a little bit of justice.

Wait.

Got my gavel.

Justice.

Oh.

Has been served.

Nice.

Are you ready for our next story?

Yes.

Disney is rethinking Snow White after Peter Dinklage calls out the use of dwarves.

It's time.

It's time.

Yep.

So Peter Dinklage was on a podcast, Mark Maron's WTF podcast.

I'd love to see podcasts making news.

He slammed the new Snow White and the Seven Dwarves film, which has been talked about.

Rachel Zegler is playing Snow White.

Oh, is she?

Yes.

And he called the use of dwarves fucking backwards.

He

was saying, literally, no offense to anyone, but I was a little taken aback when they were very proud to cast a Latina actress as Snow White, but you're still telling the story of Snow White and the Seven Dwarves.

Take a step back and look at what you're doing there.

It makes no sense to me.

You're progressive in one way, but then you're still making that fucking backward story about seven dwarfs living in a cave together.

What the fuck are you doing, man?

Have I done nothing to advance the cause for my soapbox?

I guess I'm not loud enough.

He said, if you tell the story of Snow White with the most fucked up, cool, or progressive spin on it, let's do it all in.

Then this caused Disney to respond to what he said.

They said, to avoid reinforcing stereotypes from the original animated film, we are taking a different approach with these seven characters and have been consulting with members of the dwarfism community.

We look forward to sharing more as the film heads into production after a lengthy development period.

Honestly, they just really shouldn't be called dwarves because

the story should just, if they change it to like the seven

campers, you know what I mean?

Like something else, they shouldn't, because dwarves exist in the real world.

So putting them like in a fantasy is just trivializing it.

Like, I actually have thought for a while how weird it was that like they were called the seven dwarves.

Like they just have to change it.

Like it's not, it's really not a big deal.

The storyline doesn't have to change whatsoever.

No, but he's saying the storyline does, like, if they are like living in this cave together, like it's just, you know, a misrepresentation of this community.

And I really think that what he says like sums up exactly like the

how you could look at the script and say we're going to be like, you know, progressive.

And then you glaringly miss the most offensive part of it.

I agree, and probably the most offensive part of any of the major Disney stories.

And I think that the movie title, like the movie is Snow White and the Seven Dwarves, and I don't even know if they were going to use that title, like for this new one.

Like, it's right there in front of your face.

Yeah.

And they think that they're like being inclusive and progressive in other ways when they're just missing like what's actually harmful.

It's comical.

Yeah.

So go for him.

And he's making changes.

Change is happening.

Good.

Peter Dinklich is 100% right.

And you know what?

He is an icon.

He's right.

Like, has he done nothing?

He's so famous, and we're still not getting it.

He's right.

He's totally right.

Yeah.

So we'll see the changes that they make and what the new movie will look like.

I didn't know Rachel Zegler was playing Snow White.

Yeah, and this is the one where Gal Godot is playing Evil Queen.

Pasic and Paul are doing the soundtrack.

Oh.

Andrew Burnap is in it.

Oh, so we need to make it as good as possible because it's going to be good.

Yeah, yeah.

But it's just like so crazy.

They had all these things checked off.

You know, we're ready and we're going to make this great movie that everyone's going to love.

And they missed the mark.

The mark.

Completely.

With Mark Maron.

Yes.

Okay, now are you ready for our fifth and final story?

I am, and I have a big surprise for everyone, okay?

Okay.

It's the final story.

It's the final story.

I've got a new instrument.

Don't be jealous, you vicious wenches.

Yeah.

And that's magic number.

That was beautiful.

what instrument is that Claudia I'm not sure it was a gift from Artem our production coordinator and it's from Treeworks handmade in Nashville

I don't know it's like a tabletop triangle it's beautiful I feel like the principal at the at Greece you know like yes

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Love that.

That is some smooth sounds.

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I'm getting mine today.

I'm really excited.

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Our fifth and final story: switching gears completely.

Completely, which you know I love to do.

Starting in 2024, U.S.

students will take the SAT entirely online.

I guess that's accurate.

I can feel that.

The SAT, a college admissions exam long associated with paper and pencil, pencils down, will soon go all digital.

Starting in 2023 for international students and 24 for U.S., the new digital SAT will shrink from three hours to two, include shorter reading passages, and allow students

and allows students to use a calculator on the math sections.

You're kidding.

Yeah, I mean, at this point in technology, you can't say you're not always going to have a calculator with you, though I would imagine that this will mean that the math section will be harder.

Yeah, that's true.

But you know what?

Like, I actually feel really jealous.

Like, the shorter time doing it from home, those were some of the worst Sundays of my life.

Like, getting up so early, hours and hours of tests and like the little snacks you had to eat between.

Like, I fucking hated taking the SATs.

Tests will still take place at school, though, but students will be able to choose between using their own devices, including a tablet, tablet, or a laptop, if they can get one.

So it'sn't from home.

It's just digital.

It's just digital or the school's devices.

Okay.

But I feel like what's to stop eventually from being from home?

There are all these new technology platforms now that, like, where people like in college were taking exams and like the computer is like watching you.

And you can't open other tabs.

And you can't, like, I don't know, screw and cheat, even though, like,

what's to stop you from having something like right next to your computer?

Having a textbook literally next to your computer.

I don't know.

Maybe just the honor code nah

that's really curious i wouldn't trust the honor code with these kids yeah how you need a 360 camera yeah but i guess if you're on the computer in school there's still a proctor yes of course of course i'm not worried about it for that but when people were doing exams from home even though they they use these like apps that make sure that they're watching you i've got something right here next to you were definitely cheating like there's no way around it yeah if okay if you took exams in college in like the pandemic what's

and if you weren't were others were there ways to get it or what uh even your phone like you keep your phone looked of course my phone right here or what systems did they have in place to make sure that you couldn't do that stuff

something to think about anyways I mean this seems like you know pretty obvious but it's also kind of shocking because I feel like the SAT could have been one of those things it's just like it's a test and it's always going to be it's not like we've done away with pencil and paper in general.

Yeah.

So, especially if they're still going into the school.

Yeah.

And

I do feel like in some situations, it's, it might be more helpful to be on a computer, but like for a reading section, reading on a computer is like not really ideal.

Yeah.

Like, you have to read your whole passage on the computer.

Yeah, but it's nice for when you have to, I don't know if the writing section.

They didn't mention that.

Writing of like, that's so helpful.

Clickety clack.

You could write your whole essay in literally seven minutes.

Yeah.

That's probably what also is taking less time

for the campers.

Yes.

The manual labor of pen and paper.

Yeah.

And maybe this will mean you'll get your scores back sooner.

Who knows?

So that's just a big shift, I think.

Yeah, me too.

No, it's like we're going to be able to tell our kids, like, oh, yeah, I took that test, but back in my day, we had to write it.

Yeah, we had to fill in the bubble.

Crazy.

Mm-hmm.

So we're officially old.

I guess that's what it means.

Yes.

Yes, it does.

Lesson of the day.

I wasn't sure, but now I am.

Okay, TV recap.

Let's do it.

All right, TV recap, Vanderprump Rules reunion part one of only two, which I felt like

we didn't cover a lot of ground.

So I was like surprised that there's only two episodes.

And the second part is tonight.

It is?

Yeah, it's not next week, which is like kind of a stunning, beautiful thing.

Oh, they're just like ending it.

Yeah, they're just like, goodbye, good day, sir.

But because they're doing it in this way, I'm like very much into it.

Maybe they really, maybe they want to start filming like fast.

Maybe.

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So Vanderbilt Burls.

Okay, so I texted you last night because I was like shook at the reunion.

James was being so iconic last night.

Like he was just being so funny.

Like when he literally walked out when they were talking about Charlie's food party, like I couldn't agree more.

I'm sorry for what you're going through, but like we really don't care.

He was being so funny when Buckhead was like, do you want the ring back right now?

He's like, sure.

Sure.

That's a Bitcoin.

That's a Bitcoin, which is, he was just being really funny.

And he was also being very genuine and earnest.

And, and I know it was, I guess I didn't realize that like Raquel really broke up with him.

Yeah.

And that was my biggest takeaway from the evening.

Yeah.

No, he was being really honest on all counts and I appreciated it.

I agree.

When he stormed off because he didn't want to talk about curry and samosas, I was just like, yeah, no, none of us wanted to watch it or either.

And even when Andy like asked Charlie the question, he was like, viewers, you got a lot of positivity about how open you were about your food struggles.

Like, can you tell us more about that?

Because still, like, I didn't know what they are.

Well, also, why was Charlie like a full-time cast member?

Like, aside from that food thing, she was not involved whatsoever.

Well, they just need like warm body people.

Yeah.

I think that if everybody else had shown up to the reunion,

she would have had like a I guess if Brock can be there, then she can be there.

I'm sorry, Brock was the whole season.

Brock is

my least favorite person ever and now

and now him coming for James and James is like slowly becoming one of my favorite people same I'm just like no no no no no no um it was really sad to hear from James and Raquel but I agree with Tom Schwartz like it takes a lot of courage to make that choice right now and not to like let years go by or you know you don't want to disrupt what's comfortable or just uproot your life.

And I have so much respect for the two of them, especially because you would think they're two people who like

they're living this LA life.

They're on the show.

It's seemingly fine.

It's not terrible.

It's not easy for them to stay together.

So many people are invested in their relationship.

And instead, they're taking the harder path.

And I have a lot of respect for that.

Also, because like, not even just in the public eye of dealing with a breakup, but like going through a breakup.

You know, a lot of people just like keep stay or keep going back because it's like, I don't want to be alone.

Did you get the vibe that like Raquel might be leaving the show?

Yeah, because she was saying like she wants to work and she doesn't want to like the LA life is not really good for her, what's best for her.

I have so much respect for Raquel.

The flashbacks, the way that she's grown over the years, she's like, it's a really wonderful thing to witness.

It's not something you get to see from people that often because, you know,

not a lot of people have like all this years of footage of their life, but like she really has grown into a wonderful, self-assured, but still so sweet woman.

And that was lovely to see because I think sometimes reality TV has the opposite effect.

I agree.

It was like a beautiful moment.

Yeah.

And I definitely felt like she might not be returning.

Yeah, especially now that Jane, they're not together.

It's James is obviously staying on the show.

That's even harder on a breakup when you're trying to move away from someone and they're in your everyday life.

I think that it would be best for her.

I'll miss her.

Shockingly.

Yeah, me too.

But I think she should go and she should should do the things that she wanted to do with her life and this was will have just been like a fun interim thing that she also just get the vibe like she comes from family money and like she doesn't need the show oh i mean i i get the vibe that her family is not at all impressed or interested in her being on the show i don't think she like can not work necessarily no but i don't think she needs the show like some of the others kind of need financially yeah and i think some of the others like might be a little bit

more untethered from their families, whereas like she can always just like go back home, get her degree and what she wanted to do and get to work.

Whereas like some, I don't want to like some other people, like where would they even start if they left the show?

Speaking of financials, the whole conversation about the loans and I forgot that Lisa had offered to buy them out plus $100,000.

Like I wanted to die.

And then also seeing their progress, which is nothing, knowing that they're sinking their mortgages, their savings.

I know Sandoval said he like takes care of his family.

I am heartbroken about Schwartz.

Sorry.

I am heartbroken over Schwartz and Sandy's.

I think, in retrospect, they will think it is the dumbest thing they ever did.

I think Sandoval is responsible for forcing Schwartz into this arrangement, making them like this stupid duo who need to open another restaurant.

And I think it is an enormous mistake.

I agree.

The progress or lack thereof was shocking.

It It was a joke.

A joke.

And it was interesting to hear Katie say,

and this has never been the narrative that Sandoval is like not a good, easy person to work with, like doesn't show up, doesn't answer stuff.

Like, I think when he's in front of you,

when he's in front of you, he's giving you the most, most, most.

But then wherever he is,

wherever he is when you're not with him, he's giving all that to the next person.

And like, there's, he's not balanced in his work ethic.

I found, because you would think, like, between, it's based on what we saw on the show between Tom Sandoval and Schwartz, that like Sandoval does most of the work.

Of the work.

But no.

No, I love Katie.

And yes, she's obviously biased because Schwartz is her husband, but I do believe she's an extremely accurate historian.

Like, I believe her POV of things.

Yeah, no, and Schwartz is like not, it's not like she's ever said that before or anything close to it.

I think she can like see Schwartz for who he is, and he's like so like goofy and lovable.

And so I, I don't think she would say that if it wasn't true because it's so counter to like what you would expect from the two of them.

Agreed.

I thought they all looked really great.

Sheena is just awful, like really awful.

But

I didn't know about her birth story and I actually thought it sounded really similar to Olivia.

Yeah.

With the preeclampsia and I actually had a lot of sympathy for her.

But like I don't know why she she dies on every hill like she can't just like really let anything go like even with the TV thing It was funny like let it go.

Oh my god.

It was funny And it was hysterical, actually.

Yeah, she, it was really crazy to watch, like, her minions turn on her.

I don't think she ever expected that from Charlie, and that's why I'm not, like, fully out on Charlie because I sometimes she just surprises me in the most

unexpected ways.

Yeah, and she has a lot of uh, it's true, like you, you would have thought last season, like, she was a mini Sheena, but like she said, I'm not Sheena.

And oh, my, she had actually some great one-liners.

I don't need attention, I'm not you.

Yeah,

she was being like kind of funny, she was, and

it was like Sheena's like world was like crumbling around her when even Raquel like couldn't lie for her.

For Danica.

And what did Danica do?

Danica.

What did Danica do to Sheena that meant cutting her out from everyone's lives?

I have no idea.

And like, sounds like Danica's really toxic.

Sounds like we need her on the show.

Sounds like we need her on the show.

Yeah, the show needs more

toxicity.

No, it just like needs more people.

And

it's,

I don't know where they're going to.

And I think they realize like nobody wants actually new people.

You know?

No, they don't.

Not unless they come on and like Brock, you know, Sheena's man or something like that or Raquel.

When Andy accidentally called Brock Rob.

Oh, my God.

Iconic.

I would love to see it.

And, you know, I've said it once, and I'll say it again.

I've really been enjoying Lisa Vanderpomp this season.

I think this new hybrid role she's taken on as like a mentor is so the role she should have been playing for the last couple years instead of fake boss.

Agreed.

But so really, not a lot happened, and that's why I was so surprised.

It was giving part one of three, but it's part one of two.

Yeah, I think they're just kind of like getting it over with, maybe because the season didn't perform well or something.

But the more that they're being brusque about it, the more interested I am.

If it were three parts, I would be complaining through every part because that would have meant we got even less last night.

Like, I'm excited to watch again tonight to put the season behind me.

And I hope they start filming again, but I hope they make

a few changes.

A few changes.

Have you ever thought about like if they brought back Stasi and Kristen?

No, honestly.

For me, like, it's over, especially Kristen.

Yeah, I guess Kristen, like, doesn't really fit into the because Lisa just, like, really fucking hates Kristen.

Yeah.

But Lisa and Stasi, I know we're close.

Like, I guess I could envision a world where Stasi came back, but you know what?

I don't think it would work in anyone's best interest.

Like, it's over.

Yeah, or Jax and Brittany.

Beyond over.

Britney, maybe, but.

It was weird that they even asked about them.

Like, that was

like the questions were just like so random.

But watching Jax like in the flashback like just took me back to another time.

Say what you want.

Jax was an iconic reality star.

He was so insane when he was like, this is my show.

Like what?

It was, sorry, it was so good.

I do miss that chaotic toxic energy.

Me too.

And I do feel like James has stepped up to the plate.

And it's actually a shame because they never could see eye to eye.

But I think that because James has like matured a little bit and he's less like now, he, when he's like, pops off, like, he's popping off with purpose as opposed to popping off with purpose, as opposed to in the past when he just like would go be maybe it's like because of the um no longer drinking.

He still has his anger issues, but like they're not, it's not as like distracted and it's very more like, you know, he knows what he's angry about.

Um, and I just feel like Jax and James would get along these days.

I agree, and I would have loved to see them taking the town together.

Yeah.

And also, Jax not being here has, you know, paved the way for everyone to see Sandoval for the villain that he is.

Yes.

And you know what?

I love to see it.

So, all right, I guess it's over tonight.

And there's no episode tomorrow, but we'll talk about it next week.

If you're listening as a podcast, don't go anywhere.

We've got an interview with Brian Kelly.

And if you're watching on YouTube and you want to watch YouTube, it's just the next video on our channel.

And that's our last show of the week, you guys, because I'm headed to Philly and D.C.

I can't wait to see you guys.

I'm very excited to be back on tour.

It's going to be so fun.

Brian's coming.

Counselor's coming.

Ben's coming.

I heard counselor's coming.

Counselor's only coming to parks, but it's going to be a full family affair, and I'm very excited.

That's really exciting.

I hope you guys have a great weekend.

Well, we're going to miss you, but take care of LC.

Okay.

Be a good little camper.

Will do.

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Claude, you want to hit us with a little musical outer lewd?

Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye.

I still need to learn how to use this thing, but goodbye, bitch, goodbye.

You need to take lessons.

Welcome back to the morning toast, you guys.

I'm very excited to be sitting down with someone I consider a friend, but today, you're not my friend.

Wait, you consider me just a friend?

Claudia?

Claudia, the woman who says you're my best friend.

It's more best friends than I've ever met.

By the way, that's true.

I don't have a lot of best friends.

Okay, sorry, let me start over.

Today, I'm seated down with my best friend in the entire world, the person who I would literally give a kidney to.

But today, he's not that.

He is the subject of international news headlines, and I wanted to get the scoop on what the hell's going on.

It is Brian Kelly, the points guy, your favorite.

toast guest, but today, you're more than that.

You're always more than that.

I'm on the chopping block.

You're on the chopping block.

Okay, so I have a lot I want to talk to you about.

Obviously, like we need to just kiki.

I also really want to talk to you about housewives because there's so much trauma going on.

But before that, like you have been in the news quite a bit this week and last week.

It's just like a really uncomfortable place for me to be.

I know.

I know you're not used to it.

I hate the spotlight.

Attention.

Attention really gets to me because I'm actually an introvert.

You know what I mean?

You're like an empath.

Yes, it's, you know, I knew 2022 would be an explosive year, but, you know, getting sued by the world's largest airline, was it exactly on that mood board that we created?

I think we did create a mood board, and that was not on the mood board, but I think we should just talk about it.

First of all, what's going on?

Second of all, can you break it down if someone who doesn't keep up with travel news, what's going on?

So the biggest thing, you know, at the point sky, you know, points and miles are confusing.

You know, it's a blessing that there's so many credit cards and bonuses, but like no human can actually read.

every post that we write or you know the credit card companies now have bonuses and rotating categories and the airlines, you know, there actually have been a lot of good things that happened over the pandemic where you can change your flights, but it's so confusing.

So, we, for years, in-house, developed the TPG app, which we launched officially in September, but we've been in beta since last June.

And one of the cool things about the app is that you can tell us like what programs you like Delta, or now you like United.

I'm a United girly now.

Sorry, don't at me, Delta.

Delta never even reached out to me to thank me for being such a great customer.

And what did United?

What did United do to you?

United is very grateful for my patronage, and that makes me feel good because when I was in Houston, they literally picked me up at the gate, drove me to the Centurion Lounge, gave me a handwritten card, told me they appreciated my business.

And that just is not something I've ever experienced at Delta.

So I'm just, I'm just putting it out there.

Like, Delta, I'm still open.

Like, I can be bought.

And meanwhile, all my friends, people were traveling with friends.

They're like, oh my God, Brian, does this happen to you in every airport?

I open up my card from United.

It's like, thanks for bringing Claudia over.

It wasn't even about me.

We digress.

Not that's

Airlines, look, we're all, it's 2022.

We want to travel.

So the point of the TPG app, it's the only app out there where you can get your net worth in points.

And everyone that I talk to, when you take your time and you finally connect your accounts, people have tons of value.

The whole point of TPG, why I started this, is to get people traveling.

And I think that's good for the airline business.

Of course.

You know, we approached all the airlines because I actually think, you know, to get younger people into loyalty, it's really difficult.

Like, if they're just going to try to get business travelers, like, they need the millennial and Gen Z generation and we use technology.

No, and you're right.

Like they are missing out.

Like right now the points business is very much like an older person business travel.

And if I had started collecting points when I was like 18, like traveling, you know, during college, I would be much better off now.

Yeah.

And so, you know, and I do think like the Gen Z generation is much more educated on like personal finance.

And so long story short, we launch this app and

it's amazing.

I've been using it for months.

And it, you know, over time, and this is just version one, like there's so many things we want to do with it where basically we learn where you are, where you travel, and we can push alert deals to you.

So if you live in Detroit and you're trying to go anywhere warm in March, like we can actually.

So, but you know, American came to us and said, you know, we don't want to be a part of this.

American Airlines.

American Airlines.

And we're like, well, you know, you're the world's largest airline.

And, you know, a lot of our readers have accounts, myself included.

I've been an elite.

So if a consumer says, hey, points guy, we want you to keep track of our account.

Fundamentally, we just think it's the consumer's choice.

Agreed.

It's my data.

I think I should decide who's not.

And the airlines have gotten away with a lot.

They've bullied a lot of companies because a lot of startups will try to do this and then they get ceased and desisted and then they don't have the money because in our legal system it's really expensive.

Well, they're messing with the wrong people

because, you know, we're a part of Red Ventures, which is a massive media company.

We're pro-consumer.

We own sites like Lonely Planet, Healthline, CNET.

Like, we help consumers make decisions that are best for them.

And, you know, when I were creating that, we knew that there might be friction, but you know, this is what happened.

And every other airline is on board, correct?

Yeah, I mean, no one has ceased and desisted us.

Look, a lot of the airlines are like, we love this.

We don't have the tech resources right now because we're in a pandemic and we laid off our whole IT department.

But no one has said, like, you can't do this.

Use it.

Because the points, guys, we literally create new loyal customers.

And loyal customers, credit card customers, are the most valuable.

How much did you spend on your Mexico ticket?

Literally.

Claudia spent more on a flight to Mexico.

Claudia, shut up.

Do not blow up my spot.

It was the only seat left.

It's literally the price of like an Asia business class ticket.

Anywho, so anyway, the app is to help consumers.

They said we don't want to be a part of it.

We're like, well,

we need to do what's best for our consumer.

And if all of a sudden consumer, you can only track one out of 10 airlines.

what's the value of that?

Yeah.

So we're kind of like all our numbers.

So they cease to dissist at us and we kind of counter sued saying, no, like the consumers write to their data.

And if we want to have that discussion, let's have it.

Because a decade ago, the bank, so you know,

today you you can use Mint, all sorts of financial apps that will pull in all of your financial data and you can make better decisions.

That's good for consumers, right?

We're doing the same thing in travel.

But when Mint came in a decade ago, the banks were like, no, due to security, you can't do it.

And Mint was like, and just like we're saying, it's security is your issue, which they're kind of claiming.

You can create an API, which is a...

Yes.

And American, interestingly, had an API with Award Wallet, which is a tracking service.

I know the founder.

And they just canceled it in December over a decade.

A secure connection.

So this is not about secure connections.

So don't let them fool you.

So you decided to counter sue them after they ceased in decision.

I just think there's a little smoking gun here.

And I'm just going to say maybe it's coincidental, but I'll let intelligent consumers see what's going on.

So American Airlines is the only airline that expires their members' points.

Which is so dumb.

If I earn these points, they're mine forever.

And the airlines sell these points for billions to credit card companies.

So the consumer and get this

they gave a reprieve over the pandemic but april 1st of 2022 they're going to start expiring miles again and guess what if you haven't had activity within 18 months let's do the math from april 1 right what's back 18 months the peak of the pandemic when people are worried about their kids going to school like i'm sorry not everyone's logging into aa.com every day like ooh checking new activity

So I'm not saying it's a conspiracy, but why did they block a wallet, their partner of 10 years, and why are they telling tpg right before this big date where they're gonna get you know a lot of money and expired miles and they're gonna piss people off because if i was an american airlines customer for a while and obviously i haven't traveled a lot in the last two three years and i find out in april that all my miles are gonna get expired like i'm gonna be pissed well and you may not even find out because if you're not opted into emails or how often do you read you know how many emails do you get from an airline a thousand but if the tpg app which you use every day push alerts you and says claudia your miles next month are gonna expire here five things to do to keep them active today.

Yeah, no, we've been talking about your app for so long, how like no-brainer it is, because I feel like the what your app is essentially is what I use you for.

I'm like, Ryan, I have X miles here, credit card here.

What do I do?

And you're like, Oh my god, I have to talk to you.

I say I created this app so I can joy dinner parties again.

Yes, so like not everyone is giving you their whole points profile, and you have to like plan a trip to the maldeeps for them.

One of our friends from I'm helping one of our friends from San Francisco and Mexico with her points.

Oh, good!

Yeah, like that's what you do.

And I've used the app a million times.

It's so good.

There's literally no reason why a brand wouldn't want to be on board because at the end of the day like if I and that's really what drew me to United is like I

have paid for many many like multiple like very expensive flights with points because it pays to be loyal.

You use points to go to Israel you get your business class they were insanely expensive so I just did it Rome for $11.

Literally live flat beds.

So this is like and I think most people and I've had I've friends at the airlines who are like we want to do this with you But like these are just such archaic institutions and you know to get anything done at any humongous company so

So yeah, so we're now so we countersuit basically said no let's take this up We're both you know both of our companies are incorporated in Delaware Let's like hash it out and let's see Let's you know understand I also just think it's a little egregious that American so you know Delta's actually extended vouchers in 2022 American is not like American you know they've been the least customer friendly right They have no mercy on us.

Like, we've been through a hard time.

Like, so on the eve of them expiring, getting back to taking away their miles members, they're going to try to sue the points guy.

So we just like, you know what?

It's enough.

Like, let's have the discussion.

Yeah.

I think at the end of the day, as long as consumers are aware of what's going on, you know, our mission is accomplished.

Yes.

So let me ask you a question because I was reading a lot of the comments because I want to see, because for me, it's like a no-brainer.

What you're doing is you're fighting for people like us who earn our points and just want to keep them and just want to be able to use them and maximize them.

But what is the argument against what you're doing?

Like what's what would devil's advocate say?

So the devil's advocate would say, well, the airlines create these programs and they have terms and conditions.

And just like the airlines when they screw you over with like canceling your flight and they owe you nothing, like some people are just like...

They're like, the corporation knows bets and what's best for us, right?

No, I don't agree with that at all.

Then there's the argument about privacy, you know, security breaches, data, we get it.

So we're open.

We've got a whole team ready to go tomorrow.

If American wants to do a secure API connection, totally get it.

We can do that.

yeah

and then the other I think they're suing us over trademark infringement and if you read the lawsuit it's like we've worked years to build this gorgeous brand and like if it's seen on the points guy then it dilutes the brand meanwhile I'm like I'm pretty sure if you do some brand research like whose brand is valued more by the consumer yeah and by the way like how dare you that's a great brand association the points guy I know they've they said like in the app we had American Airlines content meanwhile the content is like how to get the most value what's the best flight to

help seriously it's so dumb don't kill the messenger Don't kill the messenger.

And you know, every time I get on a Delta Airlines flight and I see your little logo on the side of the plane, I am so proud.

So you've built a great business.

I appreciate you fighting for us.

Like if I had 100,000 American Airlines miles that were going to get expired, I would be so furious.

Like, so I didn't even know that, first of all.

And that's why I don't even think I have an American Airlines account, so I'm not worried about myself, but a lot of people might.

Yeah, so if you want to help, just I would, you know, on social media, if you just want to tag, hey, American Airlines, we love the points guy.

Like, you know instead of suing the points guy like make your planes better you know or work with the points guy yeah like so I mean I think there's a lot better uses of everyone's energy resources we don't we're not a litigious company this money you know like I would love nothing more than to just settle this and you know in the end everyone wins they get better customers customers use their points more people travel more people are loyal because they know that it pays off everyone can win here everyone can win now I can't let you go yet and I'm gonna do a huge shift in content right now but there is so much going on in the Bravo Housewife universe, and you are like my favorite person to giggle and gossip about.

So, can I get your take on what's going on in the Bravo universe right now?

Yes.

So, the Jenny situation.

But stuck with Salt Lake City in general.

Obviously, the big news yesterday was Jenny was fired.

Karen.

Salt Lake Karen.

Jenny was fired.

Yeah.

What are your thoughts?

So, I mean, I saw some of what she posted was very...

I mean, insensitive doesn't even bring it up.

I mean, she has kind of a Karen mindset.

Yes.

You know, like, where instead of focusing on the root cause of protest, she was like attacking looters.

And then she was like joking about like killing protesters, which is just like nothing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And so it started off with like, okay, you're kind of a Karen.

Now you're.

So, you know, as both

people who have experienced cancel culture, I'm not, you know, like in the mindset of chopped their head off immediately.

And I think Bravo's getting heat that they kind of

were silencing the other housewives.

Jen Shaw got fired for a day, but now she's back.

No one was allowed to be aware of that.

Did you see Jen Shaw Heather Gay?

Someone posted it last year.

Filming at Salman's Church.

Yes, I did.

Meanwhile, it's like the most awkward film set.

Now, we've seen how the sausage gets made.

Yes, it's really awkward in person.

And by the way, New Jersey Housewives is premiering soon, and you and I might be on an episode.

Well, John Fazula was in, I think, one of the, and actually, Tim Kush, she was there that night.

Oh, they were in the previous movie.

Well, yeah, you could see them.

And Taylor Donahue.

Oh, my God, it is.

You didn't know that, yeah.

Or

Strecker.

Where were we?

At the bar.

But I'm wearing my sleeveless Versace outfit, so I should be easy to pick out.

Now, let me ask you a question because there's a lot of conversation now because of Jenny.

Like, where's the same energy for Mary Cosby?

Because Mary Cosby actually said atrocious things on camera.

I know I used to do that.

I got multiple.

Well, and Ramona, let's bring it back to New York.

So I've talked to Housewives of New York.

I mean, Ramona has done allegedly

many racist things.

And

so it's interesting.

It's like, I get Bravo's point that, like, these twisted humans, like, Vicki Gumbelson was had many beyond

and we only get to see 1% of the footage.

Like you know that there is so much problematic footage.

So I think it is a slippery slope when you start like putting everyone under a microscope.

Right.

But Jenny's stuff was pretty.

But Jenny also as a housewife was top five, like one of my least favorite ever grace my screen.

So for that, I'm grateful.

But I know you're ultra upset about Carlin.

Carlin?

Oh, Jackie, actually.

So Jackie Ashre is Carlin's number one fan.

I actually bought a cameo from Carlin before the scandal.

I don't expect her to fulfill my cameo request now because obviously her mom's.

You should resend it.

I did.

I literally, I've been waiting two weeks for my cameo for Carlin.

I thought it would be a great push present for Jackie.

It's not coming.

Like, it's never.

You got her a Carlin cameo.

It's a push present.

Well, you still have a little bit of time.

No, but like now with everything going on, Carlin's.

Dewey and Dewey is probably the worst housewife.

Oh my God.

I just don't even want to know what's going on in their house right now.

Do you think he's finally going to get his sister wife?

You know what?

Maybe that's what they need.

So anyway, I think it's good Jenny's gone.

She was bad energy anyway.

She was so toxic.

And the thing is, like these storylines, I saw a lot of people were like, oh, have Jenny on so we can discuss just over the next season.

I'm like, these aren't, like, not that we shouldn't be discussing racial issues, but like.

Taking if you're like 50 years old with a twisted mindset, like you're not going to learn.

I'm sorry.

Like, call me a pessimist.

I don't think we need to see that.

You know, and so I actually, I mean, I think Salt Lake is so explosive and good, but it's actually getting off the rails where it's like these people don't even remotely like each other.

There's no chemistry.

And when Lisa Barlow's just like, I no longer understand where this has gone, like Jen Shaw just unhinged screaming for the sake of screaming.

Okay, what do you think about Meredith?

You know, I think Meredith needs to like get herself back in the game because the whole disengaging thing, like that ship has sailed.

And you know what?

She disengaged like 11 times during that dinner.

She left and came back to the point where like it wasn't even cool.

I mean, I love we should like a count or like a montage of all the like housewives running away.

Literally.

But actually it would be hours and hours long.

Of course.

Because every episode someone runs away.

Someone has to go.

Do you think production helps like sets up you have to go get her?

Yes, because you know even though I think it's technically disruptive when someone like gets up and walks away, it's so dramatic and they love to use that footage in a trailer, you know?

So

I think at the end of the day they actually really like it.

You know what they need to bring, they should actually Taylor Armstrong I think lives in the mountains.

She should rejoin Salt Lake.

She lives in Colorado same thing same thing I actually completely agree.

I think one of my favorite do you think Taylor Armstrong would move to Salt Lake to be a part of that cast man

I think one of my favorite walk-offs in history is when Ramona walked off when they were talking about Alex

Van what was her name McCord Alex McCord sent Simon Van Campbell's naked photos and Ramona didn't want to be associated with it they were filming at the Russian tea room remember iconic wait what do you think do you think Candace Bushnell is going to join Housewives of New York is that what they're saying yeah and And then she kind of disputed it in.

But she's friends with all them and she starts to.

You know what?

That's actually not a bad call.

Yeah.

I could see that being the evolution of Candace Bushnell.

Yeah.

I don't hate.

She has a house in Sag Harbor.

A new show.

If she has money, like, I'm down.

I don't think she has a lot of money, though.

New York Housewives financially are hanging out.

Financially, like, I watch Housewives for Aspirational Lifestyle.

That's what I always say.

I always say that.

New York does not deliver.

It does not deliver one iota.

You know what I miss Adrienne Malouf?

I miss her energy.

I think about her constantly.

And Joyce Gerard.

I'm going to disagree there.

No, but the Joyce Gerard, Carlton Jenny,

that era of Real House Size at Beverly Hills is living dead free.

I didn't appreciate it when it happened.

We took it for granted.

Let's talk about OC.

What are your thoughts on what's going on, Noella?

And what, you know, the travel expert is here.

Is it possible that someone can travel to Mexico private with a passport card and not have to do it?

She just do a no

every time she has a margarita.

I needed that.

Spincho.

That's really good.

That is what she does.

Needed that.

Needed that.

Oh my God.

OC.

OC's.

I like OC this season.

Last season, it was busted.

Heather Dubro.

I think Heather Dubrow needs to tread a little bit lightly, trying to just be the LV.

She's treading an L VP status.

I mean, like, like someone, and let's just get back.

Shannon Bedor is such a villain, but like she's literally just bringing up a lawsuit that was public knowledge.

I know.

You know what?

And I love it when they're like, you could have told me directly the point of filming that dow has that dough on camera.

It's distasteful for sure, but we needed to know that information.

Do you think they should break down the fourth Walmart like they did on Girl's Trip?

I love the fact that they talk about...

Especially on Girl's Trip, they were talking about like we're on a show, we're famous.

I love that.

I don't think it works all the time, but I wish sometimes it's just so obvious and like it's an element in people's fighting and they can't even acknowledge it, which is just like frustrating because we know we're watching.

Girl Strip is really good.

I didn't like it in the beginning.

Who do you think came out on top of Girl Strip?

And who do you think came out on bottom?

I think Teresa came out really good.

Yeah, I think Cynthia Bailey came out on bottom.

Oh, she is terrible.

She is painful to watch.

She has

the drama of the 16-year-old girl.

You didn't want to.

Bailey cue.

And her questions weren't moronic.

No, totally.

I actually really like her on Atlanta.

I was surprised she had such a hard time.

I think they all came out pretty good.

Yeah.

Yeah, Kyle and Melissa were great.

Oh, wait, I have tea.

I talked to Dorinda about the Bluestone Manor.

Oh, when does that come out?

That is going to be explosive.

When does it come out?

We haven't gotten a date yet.

We have not gotten a date yet.

And it was filmed at her home.

It was last July.

I think it's coming out this spring.

They all stayed at her house for the night?

No, for the night.

For like multiple nights.

Vicki Gumbelson, like.

Brandy Glanville.

Phaedra.

Tamra.

Sharon.

Tamara.

Wow, that sounds good.

Unique.

I think Dorinda and Phaedra formed an alliance, which is not shocking.

You've actually actually been to Bluestone Manor.

Can you tell us about it?

Blues Manor is a gorgeous facility.

Gorgeous facility.

It is kind of like a museum when you walk around.

It's like even, it's stunning.

The grounds are gorgeous.

Like, she keeps it really nice.

She makes it nice.

And you're also the proud new owner of a farm.

I am.

You have horses.

I have now four horses, including Ginger Spice.

Who's a miniature horse?

Miniature horse.

And you can follow them on at Carbon Ridge.

Oh, yeah.

Follow them.

We're just starting the social media.

And I have to do an audit audit of the account immediately.

But I will be there this weekend.

Yeah, so you can.

And I want to be taking content.

But I just, I don't have the time to do it.

I don't have the time to do it.

No, of course I'm not.

So, but it's cute.

The horses are so cute.

I live on 30 acres.

I go riding.

So, yeah, I can't believe you haven't been there yet.

I know.

I'm coming this weekend.

Brian's also coming on tour with me.

You have a lot of exciting things in the pipeline.

You're coming on tour with me for the foreseeable future.

You've got a new horse.

You're just living your best life.

And you're in this.

There's even some bigger things to come, hopefully, this year.

Yes.

Yes.

To be continued.

To be continued.

So good luck on your lawsuit.

The toasters are rooting for you because you are fighting for the man and we are the man and we appreciate you and we love you and I love when you come on the toast and I just could talk to you for literally two hours.

Well, I'm so excited to see you in DC, Parks Casino.

I think I'll be in LA, San Francisco.

Actually, we're also doing a Texas week and awesome.

Dallas.

We're doing all.

I'm not okay.

We are not okay collectively.

Claudia, what is it like?

Traveling with me?

There's nothing better.

I I have to tell you, there is nothing better.

You want to know why?

Because I think before I ever traveled with you, I had such a low threshold for like patience.

And like when the plane was delayed five minutes, I would roll my eyes so hard I thought they wouldn't come back to the front of my head.

Like I was just so inconvenienced by every minor thing.

But you travel so much, you just roll with everything and you've really kind of relaxed me as a traveler.

You're like, it's not that big of a deal.

Like, we'll be out of here in 10 minutes.

And you get cool souvenirs like your rash.

By the way,

thank you.

How do you think it looks?

Oh, it's much better.

Yeah.

Brian was there through the whole journey on the rash.

We're on our way down.

Wow, it looks way better.

It looks way better.

It's remarkably better.

You were there, like I was iceberg.

I don't think you're going to be able to charge for meet and greets with your rash.

I thought Claudia should actually, as a new revenue stream, like you could take a picture with her.

It's a rash.

Because it's not contagious, I think.

I love you, Brianna.

Thank you so much for coming.

Everyone, follow Brian on Instagram, keeping up with all of its drama with American Airlines.

Brian Kelly.

At Brian Kelly, and also just his stunning horse farm.

I love you.

You guys have a great day.

This was our last show of the week.

I can't wait to see you guys in DC and Philly on tour.

Brian will be there.

It's going to be so much fun and we'll be back.

Explosive.

Explosive.

We'll be back on the toast on Monday.

Have an amazing weekend.

I love you.

And we'll see you Monday.

Bye.