S4 Ep170: Am I A Heifer?: Monday, September 27th, 2021
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Good morning, Millennials.
Welcome back to the Morning Toast.
Happy Monday.
Hope everyone had an amazing, splendid, and just
delightful weekend.
Did you?
I did.
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Thank you.
Now I feel ready to jump into this Monday.
Thank you so much.
Mondays,
just kind of like
so forgetful, you know, just Monday.
Got a case of the Monday blues.
Sorry, though, you seem like you do.
No, I'm cuckoo for Mondays.
I had a great weekend.
Thank you so much for asking.
I went to my first post-pandemic concert.
That was your first one?
Yeah.
Oh, Brian was like, is this your first concert?
And I had to think about it, but yeah, right?
Like, where else would I went?
No, no, no, no, no.
I guess that's right.
How did it feel to be back in the music scene?
It was fabulous.
And I just have to say, like,
I've been to music festivals before.
And I went to Global Citizens Festival, which is in Central Park.
And honestly, it was kind of like amazing because you really feel like you're at a music festival.
Like it's Coachella.
It's on the Great Lawn.
It's like this huge thing.
And it's just like you really forget you're in the city because you can't hear anything like city noises well if you watch new york by rick burns they talk about the building of central park and that was really something when you're in the park you don't see any of the city you don't see any of the buildings like it seems as though the bucolic nature goes on forever exactly and i'm so glad that even 200 years later that vibe is still being achieved and it was just crazy because it really felt like you know at coachella it's so remote and i just love that i felt that way and then i literally walked for two minutes and got a cab like it was really kind of the best of both worlds that really sounds perfect i know and the lineup was amazing and i had so many thoughts first of all
camila cabello and sean mendez were both there and they both performed and i did miss camila cabello's set because like i didn't know homegirl was going to be going on so early and you know like the lineup you get a later time the more famous you are and like miss camila cabello was out like during the sun like it was not It was not a premium time slot for Miss Camilla, especially when Sean Mendez went like four hours later.
And I just guess I never realized like in terms of music, like how much bigger he is than her.
Do you know what I mean?
I never thought of it.
I wouldn't, if you asked me before this who's bigger, I
wouldn't know.
And I might say Camilla.
I mean, there weren't really, it doesn't seem like there were small artists at their festival.
There were smaller ones.
Like who?
Like, I don't know their names.
Because I just feel like when everybody's a large artist, like someone has to go earlier in the day doesn't mean you're not a big success.
It's shocking.
And then I thought about most recently, like, I know Camilla Gabello went on a stadium tour with Taylor Swift and was the opening act.
Okay.
It was the opening act with Taylor Swift.
And then I realized, like, Sean Mendez went on a Taylor Swift-size tour.
Like, he did an arena stadium tour.
That's true.
So, the more I thought about it, I just thought the timing was very interesting.
And I know, like, there are only so many slots, but it does make a difference.
Yeah.
You know, and she was out so early.
Like, it was just shocking.
That's all I'll say.
She was good, though.
She was fine.
Sean Mendez was such a star.
Like, talk about stage presence, rocker.
He's so handsome.
He gave everything, every ounce of him.
I was like, mesmerized.
He was incredible.
Were you there that time at Robin Hood when he performed?
No.
I saw him perform at Robin Hood with Snitch, and I understood.
I understood.
And I could say, like, it wasn't for me.
Like, I did feel like an older woman there.
Yeah, of course.
But I understood.
No, I was really so impressed with his stage presence.
His music is so good.
Like, it was really fabulous.
He had come out during Camilla's set, you know, did some charity work for the early set, and they sang Senorita together.
And that's their song together, right?
Nice.
Okay, cool.
So then I would say the best performer of the night was hands down, Lizzo.
Like, I left her set feeling so inspired.
She made everyone do like
manifestations, like talk to themselves, like, you are beautiful.
And I was like, so into it.
And you were supposed to like turn to the person next to you, tell them that they were beautiful.
So me and Brian were like, you are beautiful.
And her, I wish she had more time.
Like, there was just not enough time for all of her jams.
And she played the flute and she gave it 100%.
And she, it was just, it was everything.
I would say that was my favorite performance.
Then we need to talk about JLo.
Because JLo was really out here
giving me little to nothing.
Like, I don't know.
And then when I think about the timing of the lineup, so the last two performers were Billie Eilish and Coldplay.
Okay.
And like, Jennifer Lopez is like a legend out here performing before Billie Eilish.
And I just, this is like a conspiracy theory I came up with in my head.
I just feel like she like wasn't
like into it.
She She ended with a new original song that's coming in, like, some movie she's a part of.
Jackie, the song was incredible.
I do have to say, like, you need to listen to it.
Any song, really, that's part of a movie soundtrack.
For some reason, the bar is just higher and the songs are just better.
And if she said, like, this is my new single for my next album, it would have been a flop.
But Jackie is very inspiring.
If it's from a movie soundtrack, you know it's good.
I do think you will enjoy it.
I encourage you to listen to it.
I'm sure that I will.
And then she brought out LL Cool J and
Ja Rule.
And she, um,
so that was pretty cool.
And I just have to say, it made me actually have a lot of respect for J Lo because, like, I bet when she, like, was put on those songs, or like, Ella Cool J back in the day, like, agreed to do one of her songs, it was like a really big deal.
And now, both of them, like, we know Ja Rule for Fire Festival.
And, like, Ella Cool J, like, it's just
old news, I would say.
But she really just, like, keeps paying them respect, like, constantly brings it back.
It was like a huge festival, like 60,000 people.
And I thought that was very cool of JLo.
But overall, her performance was just, like, kind of like giving me like low energy.
And she's been busy, so maybe she's, you know.
Oh, she did like a whole like talk session between songs about how like she's in love.
Everyone was like screaming.
That's crazy.
And then I saw that Ben was there.
Oh, was he?
Yeah, I saw he like helped her down from the stage when she got off.
I saw that in a headline.
Oh, okay.
I didn't see that, but so happy for them.
Yeah, really happy for them.
I could imagine that, you know, it's a bummer to go before Billie Eilish, like, when you've done the Super Bowl.
No, and like, you're just like a legend, like a living legend.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Maybe it was a scheduling conflict.
But what was so crazy this weekend, there were so many festivals going on, and all the same people were going to all the same festivals.
Megan Thee Stallion literally, like, she went from Delaware to Governor's Ball.
Did you see her last night?
No, she wasn't there.
Oh, okay.
And Lizzo, I think, did all three.
Three.
Yeah, so there was Firefly,
Governor's Ball, and Global Citizens.
Yes, Lizzo did all three, and I think Billie Eilish did all three.
I think she did, too.
Which is just so crazy.
Did they share a plane?
No, it's, I was thinking the same thing.
I'm like, you really only have to go to one of these festivals to see everything.
Yeah.
No, it was wild to see, like, on my Instagram, I'm like, putting putting it together.
I'm like, okay, but these two aren't together and they're in a different state.
Right.
And so if she had to drive on her tour bus taking six hours, I thought the exact same thing.
Yeah, it was a big weekend for festival season.
It was really nice weather.
So I'm glad everyone had a good time.
And thank you so much for bringing that up because as I was walking over here today, you know how important I think it is to acknowledge the space that you're in, right?
I do know.
And it's been a while since we have done that.
And I want to acknowledge a different type of space today because I feel like after summer, like the fall just like, it just goes so quickly.
Like you never,
it's fleeting.
You never acknowledge this transitional period where it's like 60 degrees and like you don't need a jacket, but it's not hot.
And it just comes and goes and it happens so fast.
And I just feel like today is 64 degrees.
It's absolutely gorgeous outside.
We need to acknowledge the space that we're in.
Take a moment, acknowledge the fall vibes, the autumnal vibes, and just acknowledge it and be grateful that we are here.
We're not in the freezing winter.
We're not in this weltering heat.
We're in the fall.
Acknowledge it, you guys.
Yes, it's true.
It's really true.
The weather is perfect.
And the whole weekend, it was gorgeous.
Yeah, and it just makes life a little bit sweeter.
Worth living.
Yeah, worth living.
Theo says the same.
Do do do.
How was your weekend?
It was amazing.
Theo had an amazing weekend.
Thank you so much for asking.
He spent so much time with his best friend, his dog walker, who Theo's OG dog walker is probably like the love of Theo's life.
Interesting.
And, you know, he's busy and he's getting promoted.
And, you know, we're so happy for him and we so support him.
But that does mean that Theo gets less time with him.
But, you know, on the weekends, he'll text me and be like, you know, I'm wanting to get some exercise.
Like, is Theo around?
I'm like, of course he's around.
So he got to spend Saturday and Sunday with his boyfriend.
And he's pooped.
He's like literally daydreaming about him now.
That's so sweet.
Yeah.
Damn.
I mean, Brew had a crazy weekend.
Did I tell you what Brew got into this weekend?
Oh, no.
What?
My friends were over, and Brew was, you know, entertaining everyone, making everyone laugh, smile.
And then
he left the room for a while, but Zach was home.
So I just figured he was with him.
We were together.
And then I just got like a funny feeling.
It had been 20 minutes.
I'm like, let me just confirm that he's with Zach.
And I could not find him anywhere in the apartment.
I was like, this man evaporated through the walls.
Vanished.
Vanished.
Then I, in our guest's bathroom, the door was closed.
So like I didn't think to look in there, but I was like, you know, sometimes he gets in there.
And he closes the door behind him.
I push it open.
The lights are off.
He had closed the door behind him.
And that's where his big bag of food is.
And we, like,
the food that we get for him is like the the size of those bags from cheaper by the dozen because, like, that was the only one they had in stock.
There's been a shortage of dog food
added to the list.
Yes.
And he was in the bag of food.
He must have eaten for 20 minutes straight.
Oh, my God.
And for the rest of the weekend, even this morning, he like smells like the dog food because he was literally
in it.
And we like tried to give him like showers with spray.
I'm going to give him a proper bath today.
But he ate, he must have eaten so much.
Did his belly get upset?
So then later that night, we watched watched Corella, by the way.
We need to talk about it.
We gave him some water and he threw up a little bit, which was good because he needed to expunge some of this food.
Then the next few days, made a couple of big duties.
Yeah.
And now Brew is doing well, but it was like, it was crazy.
That's fucking crazy.
Dogs do the craziest shit.
It was so crazy.
Closed the door behind him in there.
By the way, that is the pure magic.
How does a dog close a door?
He just pushes it.
What did you think about Corella?
I thought it was great.
So good.
It was like, it was a very chaotic night for us because with Brew and like he was just stopping to vomit.
He had to move from the living room to the bedroom because of like his vomit.
And it took us forever to watch it, but we were enjoying it.
But I was like, at one point, I was like, I don't know if I'm ever going to finish this movie.
I am.
But it was so good.
The only thing is, I still don't understand the rationalization how she turns into wanting to skin the dogs and wear them.
Because the dogs killed her mother.
No, but by the end, like, she's good with the dogs.
And she's in control of them.
And she realizes that
Baroness blew the whistle.
Like, you can't blame the pups.
No, you can't.
You really can't.
So I just don't think they made that connection.
And you said, like, I would feel like it was justified why she became because they killed her mother.
Yeah.
Even though someone else was blowing the whistle, like the dogs did push her mom off a cliff.
Like, I would be upset too.
Yeah, I mean.
How do you think Theo would feel if one of his friends pushed me off a cliff to my team?
I think he would skin them and wear them.
Exactly.
I think that's what he would do.
So did I not say that you would understand?
No, I mean, so that's just a little tenuous.
But other than that, it was fantastic.
Like, one of the best movies I've seen in a while.
A pleasure to watch.
Really on the money.
Speaking of movies, I saw DeR Vinhansen.
Oh, do you really want to hit us with this hot tape?
I went to, it was not even a hot tape.
I'm kidding.
I'm so clumped.
Okay, I went to the theater and I had heard terrible things about the movie.
And honestly, I didn't care.
Like, it was a Friday night, and I wanted to go to the movies.
And I haven't been able to do that.
And I live near a theater that has those reclining chairs and the snacks.
So me and Ben were like, let's go.
And the theater was empty, literally, because you select your seats.
We saw there was two people in the theater.
So we went, we got our food, and, you know, I was really enjoying the movie at first because I had all my snacks and like my favorite songs get played right at the beginning.
Right, but then you ran out of snacks.
And I ran out of songs.
And I was forced to do it.
First of all, there were so many original songs, which is such a mistake.
Yeah, such a mistake, first of all.
Second of all, I was really surprised I didn't like it because first of all, there were so many people in the movie who I like die for.
Of course, love Ben Platt.
The girl who plays like the love interest is the girl from Book Smart.
Yes.
I love her.
Yeah, I saw.
She reminds me of Kay Panabaker from the Disney Channel days.
Sure, yes.
Real ones will know.
Yes.
By the way, I love her, and I think every movie she's in, I've never disliked.
And she was also in that other show that you watched that I didn't.
That was like, um, what was it about?
I believe it was about a rape.
Oh my god, she was incredible in that.
It's called Unbelievable.
Unbelievable on Netflix.
Highly recommend.
Okay, yes.
So then also, you know who's in it?
Plays the stepdad, is my favorite from Law and Otter SVU, the guy who replaced Stabler.
I don't know why I can't remember his name.
Amy Adams is in it.
Julianne Moore is in it, like truly star-studded.
But the movie.
So I read something on The Atlantic.
It was like a really in-depth kind of scathing review.
Scathing, sorry.
And they made a really good point.
And I think you'll hear this because you know what the premise of the film is of course it's a it's the same premise as the show and at its core it's actually like a really fucked up thing that evan hansen does but we're supposed to like love this main character and like feel for him when actually what he did is like unbelievably disgusting so when it was all to like get into her payoff yeah like it was vile so In a Broadway show, like there's just so much going on, the theatricality of it, like you're able to almost like look past like that little thing in your stomach that's like, this is not a good person, Evan Hansen.
And like when you're watching a Broadway show, like, it's not really about the plot.
It's not like what happens next.
No, it's like dancing.
I'm singing.
But in a film, it's much harder to ignore the fact that like the crooks of this show is actually like a really fucked up premise.
And it's so much more obvious on
the screen, which I actually really agreed with because I just found myself like wanting to slap Evan.
And by the way, I know there's so much back and forth about like him being too old.
And I like to pride myself on I really don't see age.
Like I know, I've never watched something and been like, oh, he's too old or he's too young.
But they put some like prosthetics on his face to make him look younger that made him look literally like he lived in a retirement village.
Like his face was just like shiny and wrinkly.
I don't know what they did in an attempt to make him look younger, but it made him look older.
So I just left the theater about an hour and a half through because I was like, this movie's fine, but like I'm kind of bored.
And we looked it up.
There was a whole other hour left.
And I'm like, it's a Friday night.
I've had a long week.
I just want to be enjoying myself.
And currently, I've ran out of snacks.
I'm not enjoying myself anymore.
And you didn't feel like more snacks would help it?
No, because like actually the theater by my house is rather small.
So like it's limited options and we had already gotten one of everything.
So it wasn't had, there wasn't anything I didn't try yet.
Any standout items?
Yes, dibs.
You know, those little dibs crush it every time.
The crunch flavor.
Perfect.
Crunch bar.
So good.
Yeah.
Then I also had popcorn and MMs and Ben got nachos and made sodas and like that's really all they had to offer.
Delicious.
I made popcorn while I watched Cruella, which was also just torture with brew.
Oh, the popcorn?
Yeah.
By the way, I know it's not like on the approved list of things that dogs like can or can't eat, but every time Theo gets a kernel that I drop on the floor, he like chokes for days.
Don't let Theo have Bruno have popcorn.
When I have a kernel, I choke for days.
I once had a third kernel stuck in my teeth for like a month.
I know.
And that's better than having it stuck in your throat.
There's actually, I can't think of anything worse to give a dog than popcorn.
Yeah, no, like he literally digests it the same way that we do.
Either it gets caught in his teeth or in his gums.
It's insane.
He actually sometimes throws up like if he catches a kernel of my popcorn it's a crazy it's a crazy snack i actually like that has dawned on me before sometimes i'm having cucumber okay brew of course but no i also finished shampooing abbey
you did i did and i'm not gonna lie like the sixth season i'm not trying not gonna spoil it because someone was like you spoiled it for me so i'm gonna try and just speak vaguely The sixth season was like a little tired and boring.
And I just feel like the entire premise was like, what are we gonna do?
This is not a spoiler.
Like about the hospital, like something so who fucking cares and i was just like really kind of itching for it to be over which sucks because i loved the show in general the sixth season was just like a little bit of a letdown especially because like the final two episodes were just centered around a character who i personally despise and only want bad things for um that would be edith that would be edith yes so
all in all such a fabulous show but you know as many shows like don't know how to land the plane and i do believe that this was one of them and i'm very much looking forward to watching the movie at some point the truckers for downtown are here truckers for Edith.
Truckers for Edith.
Yes.
Yikes.
So I'm going to watch a movie.
Okay.
Cool.
Yeah.
The movie is like, it's fun to see everyone back together.
It's beyond stupid.
Okay.
I just thought the way that they ended, it was kind of funny and it felt kind of right that Edith the whole time, it's
one thing after another.
It's one thing after another.
This girl cannot catch a break and you're living for it.
But by the end, like you do feel bad for her.
And then the fact that like she winds up out, spoiler alert, outranking them all and living like this wonderful life.
She has love.
She has status.
Like, I'm happy for Edith.
She's been through a lot.
And you know what?
So let me tell you.
Everything she went through does negate what she did to marry.
What she did to marry.
Well, see, I just wasn't having that experience.
Like by the end, I'm like, just give her something.
I'm like, no, let her keep being.
I wasn't feeling like just give her something.
But when they gave her something, I was like, I'll allow it.
You know what?
That's kind of how life works sometimes.
I kind of wanted, like, towards the end of like the fifth season, the beginning of sixth, I kind of wanted wanted Mary and Tom to be together like I know like he used to be married to her sister, but she's dead spoiler
And like why not you know
it's like a biblical thing they're marrying their cousins back in the day like it's a biblical thing sure,
but they're more like brother and sister I don't I didn't see anything romantic between the two of them Mary would eat him for breakfast like I just feel like they could have they could have worked it out like I was really here for it.
There's no need.
There was no need for them to work out.
Yes, there was he already had a child.
She already had a child.
No, maybe like Sibby and
I just thought what was interesting is like there were so many characters over the six seasons who came and went and who they decided to like keep on for all six seasons, Daisy.
Like, I just couldn't believe like she was worth talking about.
You want to know something crazy?
In real life, at least last time I checked, you know the man Daisy ends up with?
Yeah.
He dates Edith in real life.
Oh, that's cute.
Very cute.
Yeah.
Oh, I like that.
Anyone else dating on the cast?
That was all that I remember.
Oh, I like that.
Yeah.
Very good.
Just an interesting factoid.
So, yeah, it was a good balanced weekend.
Went left the house.
Downton Tings.
Downton Tings.
I'm glad you had a nice balanced weekend.
So did I for like, you know, a pregnant lady's weekend.
I saw my friends.
I got a wax, which like was productive.
I had been putting it off.
There's no better feeling than walking out of there.
100%.
It's like the end of Yum Kippour.
Like, I'm as far away from a wax as I'll ever be.
And I feel like a champion.
I really do.
We're proud of you.
We are.
We have a big show today, you guys, because some breaking news, especially that of Tarek El Musa.
And we also have the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City and Potomac Reading.
Yeah, okay, we need to get into stuff.
We're just like dilly dialing.
I just had a productive weekend, you know?
Yeah, and I'm still reading Jane Eyre.
Didn't read a lot this weekend, but reading before bed so that, you know, I sleep better.
And it's a really great book, you know?
Yeah.
It's very
literary.
Yes, you know, we're always describing the leaves on the trees
at every turn.
Yeah.
But Jane is a great gal.
She's a girly girl, too.
Gotta hang with Jane.
Gotta hang with Jane.
She's a girly girl, and she knows how to get down.
Oh, also, just wanted to say one really random quick thing.
The Points Guy app launched today.
I saw.
I've been using it for like a month because, you know, I'm friends with the owner.
And it's the best thing ever.
Like, you plug in all your credit cards, all your airlines.
It's really secure.
And they will literally like aggregate all your miles, all your points for you.
Oh, and you say, hi, I'd like to go to Turks and Caicos.
The interface is like, here's how you do it it by spending thirty dollars and thirty thousand points what we've all needed what we've been waiting for he's been talking about it for like a really long time and it's like the hardest thing to build but it's out today for apple in the us so it's called the points guy app and i highly recommend it no that's brilliant it's brilliant whenever i go somewhere ever again literally that's how i'll be traveling oh and then because i can't understand my points for the life of me but i think i have a lot one last thing i'm really thinking about maybe going to visit my sister who lives in florida this weekend i don't know like so their house is still under construction construction and she like doesn't have a bedroom for me.
That's the only thing.
I'm like, I don't want to stay at a hotel.
I want to stay with Kayla and Kaylor's house.
Okay.
So I could sleep on the couch.
Could you wait two weeks?
I just have like things coming up.
Like literally, I'm booked through November.
Like this is my most free weekend for a while.
Wow.
I've got weddings.
I've got trips.
Look at you.
Should I go?
Should you stay at a hotel?
Well, like definitely don't.
I would.
I would feel her out, you know, if you're going to be in a house.
She wants you to come.
She wants you to come.
Yeah.
And so, and by the way, Zach is leaving on Saturday.
Saturday, so I would only have to sleep on the couch for one night.
Then I can sleep with Liv for Saturday.
But I don't know.
I just really have been feeling like this hole in my chest, and it's about the size of a Kaler.
Yeah.
No, I have the same sized hole, and it gets bigger because she's getting bigger.
She's getting bigger.
And like, I don't know.
I just feel like I'm missing out on her life.
Precious Kayler time.
And I'm really feeling like I think the right thing to go to do is to go.
Do it.
I know, right?
Mm-hmm.
Olivia too, obviously, but like, gotta see Kayla.
Right.
But like, you can FaceTime with Olivia.
Like, which I do.
You You can FaceTime with Kayla, but you can't get
not to talk shit, but like she kind of gives me nothing on FaceTime.
Like she never even acknowledges me.
She just like looks.
No, I'm like pulling teeth on FaceTime and I get what I need.
Oh, I get nothing.
Because she has those eight big teeth.
Yeah.
And I'm pulling them.
But I agree.
It's not like FaceTiming with a girly girl.
No, it's not at all.
And Olivia's a girly girl.
Like, she knows how to FaceTime.
Kayla, not so much.
She needs to work on her skills.
Well, that would be really fun for you.
I have plans this weekend.
Oh, what are you doing?
I'm going on a trip with my friends.
Where are you going?
We're going to Vermont.
Oh, that's fun.
Perfect.
Nice fall.
Autumnal vibes.
And we're going to do fall tings.
Are you going to go apple picking and such?
That wasn't on the itinerary, but perhaps it will be.
But I was thinking chilly.
Chilly.
Chili.
You know?
Need not say one more word.
Chilly.
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Our first story.
Britney Spears' fiancé, Sam Ashgari, is speaking out, saying that the documentaries have left a bad aftertaste for him.
Sam Ashgari hopes to get rid of the bad aftertaste previous documentaries about fiancé Britney Spears' ongoing conservatorship case have left.
Hours before the Friday premiere of FX and Who Lose controlling Britney Spears,
the follow-up to the Emmy nominated framing Britney Spears, the model/slash actor shared his thoughts on filmmakers dissecting her struggles in the spotlight and subsequent legal battle.
He said, Apparently, my opinion has increased in value over the last few days.
Past docs left bad aftertaste.
I'm hopeful this one will be respectful.
I don't blame CNN, BBC, or Netflix, which got me through lockdowns, for airing them because, as an actor, I tell other people's stories too.
I question producers who made them just to shed light without input or approval from subject.
Any credit for light being shed should should go to hashtag free Brittany.
By the way, you actually said something really similar and poignant about all these Free Britney documentaries.
When we were just talking one day.
Yeah, like not on the podcast.
We're basically like, all of these documentaries are really highlighting like how evil the media was to Britney Spears and how they're responsible for so much of her anguish and like mental health struggles.
And also like the picture that was portrayed of her that you know, affected other situations and ultimately led to the situation she's in now.
right
when literally why are we supposed to believe any of these documentaries like that are literally made by the media like the framing britney spears is like a new york times documentary and like the new york times is the media right they're like the media was so terrible towards britney it's like you're the that was you guys and that was like 10 years ago and don't some of the people still work in the office wasn't that long ago yeah so so it's like it i actually really do hear what he's saying yeah and i think that with i never really thought about it i just thought any you know
light being shed on her cause was positive.
But, like, they are, like, getting all these, like, ratings and all this
money, advertisers, et cetera, again, off her back.
Yeah, no, it's a vicious cycle.
And she has, like, nothing to do with any of these things.
But, like, everyone's talking about her and
make like
so I.
And she really should be paid for.
Like, I know it's a documentary, and you can make a documentary about anything you want, but, like, I don't know,
pay the bitch.
Like, she deserves it.
Well, I mean, maybe they would pay her if she were in it.
Or at least, like, lending her expertise and experience.
Who knows better than what's happening to Britney Spears than Britney Spears?
Yeah, I just,
I hadn't really thought of it that way until he said it.
Yeah.
And I agree with him.
No, and honestly, at some point, it's kind of like overkill because how many documentaries are going to say the same thing?
Like, at first, it's like, yes, give a voice to the Britney movement.
Yes, yes, yes.
Second one, even bigger, better.
And then by like the fourth or fifth documentary that are really kind of chronicling the same exact, you know,
thing that happened over the past four years.
And the exploitation of Britney Spears.
Now it's a money grab.
Like, you're not here with your pure intentions.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The exploitation of Britney Spears.
So I'm glad that he spoke up about it because it made me think about it a little bit differently and probably for other people too.
And
he's stating some facts.
Did he lie?
No, he's speaking facts.
No, and honestly, I'm just really glad that Britney Spears has Sam Ashkari in her corner.
I feel like when they first started dating, you know, everyone thinks,
as they do with most successful women, like, if he's not as successful, he's like a gold digger.
I don't know, he has proven to be hella supportive of Britney Spears and really not back down as an ally to Britney and what she's going through.
So, I am here to say I respect Sam Ashkari.
Wow, we'd love to see it.
Yeah, we do.
Are you ready for our next story?
It's a little fashion news that kind of just like shook the fashion world.
I'm kind of more of like a Maxinista than a fashionista, so I don't know if I'm really good.
But I do think Maxinista's gonna appreciate this.
Okay, because it's I'll let you know.
It's about an epic collab between Fendi and Versace.
They dropped the Fendachi collaboration
at Fashion Week.
Fendi and Versace collaborated on this collection and it is called
colloquially Fendachi.
And the looks are so fucking sickening.
Like it's actually the best idea ever.
Donatella Versace said it's the first in the history of fashion.
Where two major designers had a true creative dialogue that stems from respect and friendship.
So it was between Donatella and Kim Jones of Fendi.
That's actually such a good call.
Like, because, you know, Balenciaga, Louis Vuitton, they're always doing collabs with like the NBA, Kiff, like all these things.
I'm like, why don't they ever just collab with each other?
I never thought about it, but like, why not do, you know, Fendi X Chanel, like something like that.
Yeah, no, some of the, so it's like the classic Versace designs, like on with F's on top of it.
Like, it's extremely cool.
That is really cool.
I like that idea.
I really look forward to seeing Dorit wear it next season because there was one outfit that's just like so Dorit
that I loved so much that only I think Dorit will really wear.
Because she'll see.
And she'll do it head to toe.
There was like a blind item going around.
I don't know if it was from Dumois or somewhere else about like a certain housewife on the West Coast who's been temporarily banned from shopping Louis Vuitton just because she buys so many things and returns like 100% of them.
So obviously a lot of people thought it was Dorit because she's constantly head-to-toe in LV.
And a lot of her financials just like they just don't add up.
Wait, I hadn't heard that.
I need a minute to process because she's always wearing Louis Vuitton.
And even someone who's like Rockefeller, it's like those are you got to diversify.
No, those are like $4,000 dresses.
At a certain point, it's just like bad spending.
Of course.
Even though, like, we live for the looks, like, I do really question how every, her fucking underwear
is Louis Vuitton.
The hair clip, the hair tie, the necklace, the shirt, the tights, the shoes, and the socks.
Like, the earrings.
Every single day, she's wearing at least $10,000 in Louis Vuitton.
And it's almost always Louis Vuitton.
That's like her designer of choice.
So there was this plotting item going around that never confirmed that it was Dareed or that it was even true.
But once I heard it, I'm like, that makes a lot of sense.
I just, when it came to like Darreed and her expensive wardrobe, I just decided to stop asking questions, you know?
Ignorance is bliss.
Right.
But then you hear something like that and
it adds up, doesn't it?
It does.
Wow.
I know.
So, again, not confirming or denying, just a conspiracy theory that I'm now fully subscribed to.
Interesting.
And as far as just like fashion things, I mean, fashion week has been like going on around the world for like a few weeks now.
And like, this was the first thing that I saw that I was like, ooh, it's titillating.
The first thing that I saw and is now just kind of cementing that, like, Versace is really out here doing the absolute most.
They had Addison Rae at their show in Paris or Milan, I forget.
She was looking so adorable, and I'm just so happy for her.
And I just love her, and I just hope she's feeling good about herself.
No, I know
her look was everything.
The whole, like everything that happened
in milan was so cute and really had me feeling excited about fashion tings right and now versace out here making historic collabs and i just think like justice for versace like doing the most also house of gucci comes out soon yeah i may not be ethical but i am fair
Is that from House of Gucci?
It's from the trailer and it went viral on TikTok.
I was going to say, like, did you memorize the trailer?
No, it's like people, like, when they do like really fucked up things, then they make a TikTok.
I may not be ethical.
And then she, like, she's stirring her espresso.
Is that lady guy?
She's stirring her espresso.
She's like, I may not be ethical,
but I am fair.
She looks good in it.
Like, oh, the commercial trailer played in the Ben Platt Theater before, and I actually wish I was seeing that.
Like, it looks so good.
Really?
Okay, we'll have to see it.
That'll be exciting.
I love going to the theater.
Yes.
Or as they call it in Downtown Abbey, the Kinema.
They say Kinema?
Yes.
I was shook when they said that.
Thank God for the subtitles because I literally would not know what the hell these people are saying.
Kinema.
That's like Outlander.
Cinema?
By the way, I need to update everyone on my Outlander journey because I'm in a really good place and I need to share with everyone happened.
Because all of season one, I had so, first of all, the show was very, you know, brutal and I was having anxiety leading up to the season finale.
And Claudia had watched it and I didn't know what I was going to do because, like, if I'm going to watch a show, I need to know what happens.
Anyways, I went all the way up to the episode.
I knew what was like, you know, Jamie was in a certain situation that I figured wouldn't end well.
I didn't want to watch the specifics.
You told me the specifics, and I fast-forwarded to the middle of the episode and continued watching from there.
There were definitely flashbacks.
I definitely got like a, but I didn't, I never had to like watch the prolonged scenes.
And then I made it to season two, which is a much happier season.
They're in France, 1745.
It's extremely fabulous, you know, like pre-revolutionary Marie Antoinette.
vibes and it was a fun place to meet now they're back in Scotland oh spoiler alert um but I'm really glad that I stuck with it it.
And I think that's it.
Good.
Yeah.
So I was feeling good.
Like I was feeling like looking forward to watching more episodes.
Fabulous.
Yeah.
Are you ready for our next story?
Sure.
About fabulous people doing fabulous things.
Kaya Gerber and Jacob Alorti make their red carpet debut at the Academy Museum of Motion Pictures opening galaxies.
And this event just looks so sickening.
This event looks so sickening.
I don't know what the Academy Museum of Motion Pictures Opening Gala in the LA is.
No clue.
But they, you know, they put on a nice affair.
What a guest list.
What a guest list.
What What a wardrobe budget.
Katie Perry was there.
Lady Gaga was there.
Olivia Rodrigo was there.
Hallie Berry, Jennifer Hudson, Tiffany Haddish, Adriana Lima, Regina Hall, Gabrielle Union, Dwayne Raid.
No, it was pretty star-studded.
I was seeing pictures all over the Graham, and I was like, damn, this is a party I would have loved to have been invited to.
And when you look at the pictures, it really looks like it could be like canned.
Yes, I thought it was for sure, like, you know, one of those obscure film festivals.
Right, and it's just right here in LA.
So fabulous.
Yeah.
I think a lot of the talk is about Olivia Rodrigo because she wore quite a revealing dress and she looked absolutely
show-stopping.
What are the people saying?
Just like that she looks so great?
Boobs.
Did you see her boobs?
Of course I did.
It was just like booby booby booby.
Were they saying it like that was too much booby?
Well there were some Karens being like, wow, really sexualizing herself.
Like, so don't look at it.
You're a freak for you're sexualizing her.
I mean,
it was a sexy dress.
It was a sexy dress for sure.
I happen to think it was everything of the sort.
And honestly, I feel like I've seen that dress before.
I think Kim and Courtney Kardashian have both worn it.
Interesting.
I just went to look up her age because I just continually think of Olivia Ardevigro as 16 because like that's when her story really began with Joshua Bassett and like that has played a large role in her narrative because like they couldn't be public because she was 16.
So like she's always 16 to me.
So for a 16
year old to be wearing that dress, I, you know, of course.
She's 18.
Okay.
But also like Sabrina Carpenter, not to keep pitting women against other women, but it just is something interesting to know.
Here she goes.
So Sabrina Carpenter walked in the Savage X-Fenti show.
She looked unbelievably gorgeous and sexy.
And now I just kind of feel like her and Olivia are doing like sexy offs.
Like, oh, really?
I can one-up your sexiness.
I see your lingerie.
I raise you a very revealing dress.
Like, they're just going back and forth.
Okay, I saw Sabrina Carpenter's sexiness and I thought it was really great.
And then I didn't think that when I saw this because also like these loops take like weeks to
come up with.
She doesn't just like go shop off the rack and show up that night like you.
Like not like us.
Like you?
Yeah, like us.
Like whenever you have an event, you're like, I need to go get a dress.
That's not Olivia Rodrigo.
Okay, I'm just saying it does feel like, you know, there's a conversation being had amongst the publicists about who could be sexier.
Exactly.
Okay.
I mean, I love a little publicist like drama.
Publicist drama.
This event was just fabulous.
And honestly, Kaya Gerber and Jacob Lordy, like, talk about two people who are just so...
effortlessly gorgeous.
Like, it's actually not fair.
No, it's not fair.
And like, when you look at these pictures, they look like they could have been taken in 2021, in 1990, in 1950.
Like, they're old Hollywood glamour.
Timeless beauties.
Yeah.
And even the outfits are, you know, they're not necessarily so modern.
They're classic.
Very.
This is a beautiful couple.
And you know what?
Shame on Anawin Tour because this could have been her moment at the Met Gala if she invited Jacob Alordi.
100%.
And, you know.
It's just because he wasn't invited because he was in New York.
He went to the after parties.
Oh, he did.
Yeah.
So he wasn't invited.
And he wasn't there.
Well, to be honest, like, I really cannot look at this couple without just thinking about Joey King.
Like, I really can't.
It didn't even cross my mind.
Really?
I just feel like he moved on from her so fast and ended up in, like, this fabulous A-list relationship.
Like, his relationship with Joey King was like a middle school relationship, and now he's, like, in high school with his, like, adult girlfriend.
That's how I feel.
His relationship with Joey King was a high school relationship, and now he's in college.
Yeah, like his college girlfriend.
And everyone's just obsessed.
They're so A-list.
And like, I don't know, it just must be tough for Joey King.
I, because I didn't, like, watch all the movies, I guess that's like not what I think of Jacob Alorty so much as, and it didn't cross my mind, but yeah, no, if I'm, if I'm his ex and I'm seeing these pics, I'm vomiting,
vomiting, yeah, yeah.
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Thank you for that, Claudia.
Our next story is a little happy couple news.
It's a pleasure.
Summerhouse stars Kyle Cook and Amanda Pachula are married.
They tied the knot on Saturday at her family's New Jersey home.
Oh, that's cute.
I was wondering where it was.
A source said it was an emotional and beautiful ceremony.
And of course, it was studded with their guests and castmates, Carl, Lindsay, Danielle, Paige, Luke, and Sierra.
And also, Craig Connor and Austin Kroll were there because they're winter house castmates.
And also, Paige and Craig posted two photos together from the photo booth.
So for me, that was like my biggest takeaway from the evening is that.
I think everybody, like, no, I mean, happy couple.
Okay.
Beautiful wedding.
Of course, of course.
I followed Paige on Instagram and I was like blacked out because it was Saturday night after the concert.
And I like tapped and I was like, oh my God, I cannot believe Paige just overboard put me on her close friend story.
That's what I thought.
I'm like, oh my God, no, she posted this.
publicly.
They are such a good looking couple.
And I just want to say, I mean, it's hard for me because I actually really, like, love Naomi and Craig.
And, like, part of me just really thinks they're OTP.
But I think this is such a good match, like, for a million different reasons.
And I'm obsessed.
Yeah.
There's been a lot of speculation about whether or not they were dating.
And then, like, it came out that they hardcore were not dating.
I do think they're under contract to not share that they fell in love on Winterhouse.
And so that's supposed to be like a surprise for the fans.
So I don't know if this was like a slip that she posted this.
Or, I mean, he was at the
confirmation.
necessarily have to be a couple it's not like they're kissing but they're probably a couple and it's a beautiful beautiful couple and I agree like Naomi and Craig but there there's no way back for them they're literally like two ships passing in the night there's just no way back yeah well I just have to say like one of the many great things to come out of this quarantine was like me getting into Summerhouse and I'm like now so excited to watch like I believe that they filmed obviously
for Bravo like Kyle would never let his wife go out of the way like cameras so that and then we also have winter house so like I don't know I'm just really looking forward to lots of premium content.
Obviously, if you watch Summerhouse, then you know Hannah was not there, which is like a big deal.
And just kind of like the official break.
I don't watch Summer House, but also like, aren't Amanda and Hannah like enemies?
Well, so like they're like good friends and Kyle and Hannah, this is what happened the whole season.
Kyle and Hannah just like cannot get on the same page and it left Amanda like in this terrible position.
And eventually she just had to choose her husband over her friend who like wouldn't get along with her husband.
And honestly, both Hannah and Kyle were equally as responsible, responsible, like going at each other.
But for Amanda, she was like, I need to choose her inner piece, which of course I respect.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
And they were just like going non-stop.
And then, you know, like, everyone fights on shows like that.
So you think, whatever, like, they're all still friends.
But, like, no, it was an official breakup.
And then Hannah left the show.
And now she's not invited to the wedding.
Like, it's an official,
it's over.
Got it.
Well, if, like, someone was fighting with your husband all the time, like, they wouldn't be at your wedding.
No.
No.
No.
Even though, like, if someone was was arguing with Ben, I'd probably be like, Well, what did he do?
You know,
yeah, I'm like, Yeah, and I'm like, No, I can feel that,
but yeah, no, honestly, the only thing that bothered me was
when Kyle was just going on about how Hannah doesn't work because she's a podcaster.
I'm like, I'm like, Kyle, watch your mouth.
Yeah, no, that's those are fighting words, fighting fucking words.
Are we ready for our fifth and final story?
Yeah, I think it's you know, it's been a few days, but it's time for the final story.
I'm so sorry to let you know that's not the final story.
I'm gonna keep referencing Tarek.
I'm going to say he has breaking news.
Did you not hear?
No.
He's been diagnosed with celiac disease.
I saw, I saw that.
I did.
I just didn't know if you wanted to add it to the segment of Tarek's Mindless News.
Okay, well, let me just say it's mindless news, but I don't want to insult anyone who has celiac disease.
Like, I know it's a very real issue that you have to struggle with, but my God, the way that they're reporting on it with this picture of Heather and Tarek in a doctor's office holding that.
Like, he's just been told he has 36 hours to live.
Like, it's so fucking dramatic.
and it's like, okay, you just can't eat bread or you get like a bellyache.
Like, it's not, it's not life or death.
Yeah.
But our fifth and final story
is not.
It's like completely unrelated.
Maybe, you know, maybe I should have decided to speak about Tart.
I'm sorry, like.
Before we started the show, I thought we were like in agreement that we were going to talk about.
No, I said that we couldn't bring it up because it was too painful for due.
So why haven't you stopped me when I've literally been referencing it for the last hour during the show?
Hysterical.
Okay, but people are probably so confused.
Okay, so let's do like a story for mini.
Yeah.
Well, that's it.
He was diagnosed with celiacs.
And Heather's there for them, him.
100%.
And we made sure that People Magazine made sure that we knew that Heather is going to be there for him through thick and thin.
You know, honestly, it has not been a good like week and a half for Tarek.
He got COVID.
Yeah.
And he got celiacs.
Yeah.
But the picture, I mean, I haven't read the articles intensely, but like, was it something that was filmed, this diagnosis?
There was like a little HGTV like emblem in the corner of the picture.
So I'm thinking about it.
Did you find out months ago?
I'm thinking it's been filmed.
Yeah.
They're so fucking dramatic.
It's crazy.
Like, it was a people exclusive that he has celiac's disease.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's like me literally partnering with Vogue to let everyone know like I'm allergic to peanuts.
That is.
It's so moronic.
That is.
But again, no shade to the celiac community.
Like it is a real struggle.
It's just like the narrative around Tarek was a little dramatic.
Okay.
I think that's fair.
Our Freedom Back and Story is just some fun
content news because Netflix's to-dum presentation.
Oh, but what was that again?
It was like their, you know, Netflix con.
Okay.
But they like shared when everything is dropping, what's getting season twos, some trailers, like they shared it all.
So I'm going to share what we care about.
I saw something for Bridgerton.
We got a trailer for Bridgerton.
The Crown is coming back in November 2022.
So.
A whole year.
See you never.
Yeah.
That's bullshit.
Anything about the society season two in there?
No.
And that's bullshit.
That's disgusting.
Stranger Things.
I know people are into that.
Won't return until sometime in 2022, but they gave a clip.
You know what?
You're right.
I saw all of this on social media, and I was like, well, there's so much Netflix news, but now I know it's because
there's a Kanye documentary coming to Netflix in case you were craving more Kanye.
The first of its three-part documentary series about the prolific rapper will premiere next year.
I just love celebrity documentaries.
I could do a whole podcast series on.
Yeah, and he has like footage.
I mean, I think he's been.
I know he records everything.
So does Taylor Swift.
So
there's going to be so much good stuff there.
Sex education, you ever watch?
You know, I started it, and like, honestly, all the characters were like annoying the fuck out of me, so I just stopped.
Got a fourth season.
Sex Life got a season two.
Oh, God.
Well, it did end on a cliffhanger, so I assumed that was a good thing.
And it was like the number one show on earth.
Bridgerton, they dropped a trailer.
It will be back next year, but we got to see, you know,
it's about the older brother, Anthony Bridgerton, and then we got to see his new leading lady.
And I saw her.
A scene from the two of them.
Then other shows too that we don't watch.
Obviously we talked about Tiger King season two between you and I, but not on the show.
They have got to stop like for real.
Yeah.
Like the Tiger King jokes are no longer like giving me life.
Honestly, they never really did.
Yeah.
Murder Mystery is getting a sequel, that movie with Adam Sandler and Jennifer Aniston.
And I kind of like the movie.
I will watch the sequel.
I heard the movie was pretty good, actually.
It was cute.
Emily in Paris is coming back.
At Christmas.
Honestly, I'm kind of here for it.
December 22nd.
I kind of missed that chaotic time when we we were all just collectively making fun of Emily and the things she was doing in Paris.
I honestly don't know if I'll watch.
No, come on.
It's so funny.
No, but like
I really have to make a conscious effort to not spend time watching stuff that I don't like and that doesn't serve me.
You have to.
But I also have to do a job, sure.
So like if you were to say to me, everybody, the whole toolstrick community is waiting for your review of Emily and Paris.
They will be.
But then they will.
And if I feel that sort of energy, I will do my duty.
Duty.
Do tea,
but you know, absent of that, I wouldn't watch it.
Okay, fine.
I mean, it was, it was everything of the sort in the most nothing of the sort way, if you know what I'm saying.
I do know what you're saying.
I just also have to say that one of the great joys of my life has been watching Downtown Abbey and literally seeing how much they say, nothing of the sort.
Because that's like an old-timey way of speaking.
I will do nothing of the sort.
Yeah.
And I'm like, no, I will do nothing of the sort.
Yeah.
It was everything of the sort.
That's what I'm saying.
So those are the fast life stories.
Feel as though you needed to know them.
Definitely.
And it's not over yet because we've got two fat juicy recaps for you.
The Real Houses of Potomac and the Real Houses of Salt Lake City.
Let's start with the Real House of Wise of Potomac because that event that Giselle had the audacity to host was really one of the great joys of my life.
There was so much to unpack.
There was so much to unpack.
Why does Giselle even put herself in that position like ripe for the picking?
Because not only, it's what, okay, you can't control.
Your house is under control.
That's fine.
But first of all, they were doing doing construction as the event was going on.
The people were running over these two by fours.
Like, it was twisted.
She was sitting literally in a parking lot with like these balloons.
It was just so low budget.
It really was.
And you know how much these women, like, with this particular group of women, because none of them are really like good, genuine friends.
Like, they're always being shady towards each other.
If you're throwing an event, like, it has to be.
tip-top and it was not.
Especially since like your home has been the source of people making jabs.
Like why would you invite people over when there's construction and all these things and they can't even go inside the house and there's a stairway outside that leads to nowhere?
Well, I'm actually so glad you asked because, you know, what we've learned over the last couple of years is that Giselle Bryant has not one ounce of taste or style.
So it's actually very possible that she was like proud of the way her home looked and that's why she wanted to invite the women over.
That's the only thing I can think of because why did
Okay, I'm sure iHeartRadio paid for like the venue, like the setup and everything.
Pay for a restaurant.
Do it at a restaurant.
100%.
I don't think it's that she thought it looked good.
I really don't.
I'm just throwing it out there as a possibility.
I think it's that she
is so not self-aware that she couldn't even think like this might reflect poorly on me.
Like, she just thinks everything she does is like so fabulous, like that there's no holes.
And because I mean, if she thought that there were the visible holes in her stories, like that we see, she wouldn't go after people the way that she does.
Cause it's just like glaringly obvious.
Yeah.
So there was quite a few arguments under the tent.
The first that I want to ask your opinions on is Candace and Mia.
Okay.
The thing is, is like, I do feel like Mia,
sorry, I just like asked her your opinion and then spoke over you.
But
Mia like definitely crossed a line.
Like, just, I, I don't, I didn't agree with how she was acting.
I don't think she acted out of bad intent, but I just wouldn't do that.
But my God, like, Candace just fucking takes things to the next level.
Like, your mother's low budget.
She's out of control.
And here's the thing: Mia was making a lot of sense to me.
I showed up to this low-budget.
I don't want to say it fair.
I showed up to a parking lot.
Yep.
There was no one here.
A parking lot with no cars.
So I'm asking your mom, who's your manager?
And is he getting paid?
Because guess what?
You get what you pay for.
I think that because they were put in such a bad situation,
like that was
poorly run.
She's allowed to ask questions about, like, she's here doing a favor.
She's allowed to ask questions.
When she framed it like that, I was like, yeah, no, it's still probably shady.
And maybe, you know, Mother Teresa wouldn't act that way.
But like, if you want people to drive out of their way have a mat have things managed yeah I don't disagree have craft services yeah it was it was messy and just like the thing is I would probably not ask those questions but I would be more like Giselle like I would never ask but I'm curious and what the answer was yeah and I think Candice is obviously Candice is gonna take this really like defensively like this was her project and it's
embarrassing right but like it's being called low budget because it was low budget and all the but I watched the music video so did I all of the budget went into the other scenarios.
Like they had a setting at a diner where they ordered water and there was already water on the table.
They went to that garage auto body shop and they had those scenes there.
And there was, I saw a budget elsewhere.
Me too.
And then in the final scene, I saw a parking lot.
So not only was the budget, she told us, was $10,000, all those $10,000 went to scenes that the women were not in.
Mia showed up to $0.
And so even though calling her music video low budget is shady,
she was speaking facts.
Yeah, no, and really, like, I'm just really kind of done with Candace going so below the belt.
That's not a, for me, that's not a fair way to fight.
And two, it's just like, who wants to be friends with someone where every time you have an altercation that she calls Ashley fat?
She calls your mom's low budget.
Like, she just always is crossing the line.
And I just personally cannot get behind that.
I cannot.
Yeah.
And so between Mia and Wendy.
Because Wendy and Candace really have each other's backs.
Yes, they do.
It's actually.
Even though they're on different teams on the show, like they always have each other's backs.
Wendy was just like so all over the place at the party and really indefensible.
And it's just like
in certain situations this season, she's really been someone that you like want to champion.
And then she's really cringe.
But then she's so cringe and she's so just
unnecessarily out of line.
Like even inviting the girls to the trip, if it's a trip with partners, you don't have to say anything.
Right.
Not like yo, bring your luggage, which is a joke she made twice.
Right.
You just have to say, I'm inviting everyone on a trip.
Bring your husbands.
And that's insult enough.
Right.
To have to say, you, and
he's coming.
Eddie.
Yeah, Michael.
Not one.
Yeah.
Luggage.
Literally.
It's overkill.
And then you become the villain, whereas you could have just had a reasonably shady moment.
Love the synergy.
Also, the episode was frustrating because I just, it was like Giselle's party and Giselle was in charge, but like Giselle was basically throwing out these prompts and was like, would you find it reasonable or would you find it shady for someone to do X?
And she was like basically calling out what Karen did, like, to apologize and make up with someone and then also still be holding a grudge.
When literally her and Karen made up, and then she sits down at the party and says, Karen, you can't use the bathroom.
And so she's Wendy.
She's in the top of the episode in her personal scene, she was like, I guess I made up with these girls, but I'm not over it.
And they can't use my bathroom.
So like, literally, you're trying to make fun of Karen when literally you pot kettle black.
Like you literally just did that to two people.
Also, when they flash back to everything, all the beef between Karen and Giselle over the years, it's like what she said about Rey's grave is the least of it.
Erica Lyles, like I completely forgot.
Like, it's so much deeper.
It's so much deeper.
And I just fucking love Karen.
And honestly, I will have absolutely no Karen slander when it pertains to the candles because Robin was like, oh, she probably heard Wendy was doing a candle and just like came up with a candle out of her ass, which is, first of all, not how it works.
Wendy doesn't even have a business.
She made a couple candles and is like, has five of them where Karen's ready for retail.
Like, do not come for Karen.
And Karen's a perfumier.
Like, this is Karen's.
A natural next step.
And I am curious as what big box retailers are carrying it because I would very much like that candle in my home.
It's gorgeous.
Yeah.
Three wicks.
And you know what?
I like that she went over to Wendy's house and was like, you know what, there's space enough.
There's more than enough space for both of us in the candle space.
Like you and I, we're not going to be.
And you know what?
I love that.
That's what Ramona Singer likes to call women supporting other women.
Yeah, I agree.
I do think that Karen always planned planned to have a candle.
She heard Wendy was coming out with the candle.
They're on the same show.
They're using the same platform.
Oh, I need to get my candle out.
There's nothing nefarious.
There's nothing nefarious.
Nothing nefarious.
There's nothing nefarious about Karen Huger.
Period.
I agree.
And honestly, like, got to start calling more people heifers.
Like, I don't know what it means, but I just feel like you're a heifer.
Like, I think it means, does it mean like that?
Well, I think the literal term means pig.
Cow.
Okay.
It's just funny.
Like, I'm sorry.
It was like, I got vaccinated, so I could be here here with you, heifers.
A heifer is a young female cow that has not born a calf and has not given birth yet.
I just don't want to be.
So it's a cow.
I don't want to be calling people fat.
Like, if anyone called me a cow, I'd actually jump off a roof.
No, but like, you know how in maybe even in downtown, but like in the UK, like they will call you, oh, she's a cow.
Like, but it, as it's, like, not, it's not a.
Okay, for me.
It's not a, it's a weight, a size thing.
It's like a personality thing.
Well, for me.
So maybe that's like in now in America, it's a heifer.
All I'm saying is for me, like, don't fucking call me a cow.
Like, I'll kill you.
Can I call you a heifer?
Yeah.
There's something endearing about it.
Like, I kind of am obsessed with heifer.
It's a great word.
And I just wouldn't, like, to understand how to use it more colloquially and like what the meaning is behind it.
So I'm not out here like offending people.
Oh, you know what?
So the tech, like,
Miriam Webster says a young calf.
Miriam Webster defines stalker.
When Claudia calls me, when she FaceTimes me, like three times in 10 minutes, I pick up and I say, Miriam Webster defines stalker for for me.
And then we laugh.
It's just like, it's just good sister times.
Good sister times.
GST.
Okay.
Urban dictionary, heifer,
a prodigiously large female.
Fuck.
Yeah.
A heavier fat woman.
You know what?
You know how I'm kind of like on this mission to change a stigma behind the word bitch?
Yeah.
I'm also going to be destigmatizing heifer on my way to justice.
Apparently it means a pregnant cow.
Am I a heifer?
You are.
I'm so jealous.
Okay, now let's dive into the Salt Lake City recap of where we are.
Oh, that's that on that.
Oh, you have something else to say?
Keep going.
I don't know.
There was just like so much going on.
Go for it.
I like, I need to, you know,
love Ascala.
Yeah.
Really felt like she should have been given a full-time role because she is...
She's doing the opposite of what Wendy did.
Wendy came in last season.
It was kind of boring just because she just followed whatever Candace did, which is so uninteresting.
Like, have your own opinions.
Ascala is on opposite sides of Robin, which she's there as Robin's friend.
I forget that, like, Robin brought her in.
Me too, because, like, they're so, I never even see them talk to each other.
Yeah.
And I love this friendship between Ascala, Wendy, and Karen.
I do.
Me too.
Like, supporting the teachers.
Love to see it.
Okay, I guess I don't have anything more to say.
Like, those were the big takeaway items.
Yeah.
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Okay, so Salt Lake City, I would say, you know, content,
if I'm rating it out of five stars, like it was two and a half on the content level.
The visual level was ten stars I wouldn't say two and a half I didn't think it was so bad because like they didn't trouble us with so much torturous like personal scenes most of the episode they were at the fly fishing so at least like the women were together talking about something yeah Mary farted on Brooks like it was such a bizarre episode like Mary oh but Mary wasn't at fly fishing right no Mary doesn't go to things that she doesn't want to go to no she and she also doesn't get invited to like half the things that go on because Jen Shaw is like always the one throwing parties and Jen to Jen Shaw Mary Cosby does not exist but I believe Jen invited Mary
to this.
There's like a weird thing where like there's like this group of women on the housewives and Mary, I'm telling you like 90% of the time is not there.
No, I know.
She wasn't in Vegas.
But you know what?
Like I think once Jen is behind bars, like Mary's coming out.
No, and like Mary's planning the girls' trips.
Yeah.
So it is really weird.
It is.
But like I also respect that like Mary will not associate with someone who like had was treated her so poorly.
Yeah.
And you know, because all these women have to like put all this terrible shit behind them.
Like even with Meredith and Jen, like, I really, and it doesn't seem like they ever get over it, but like in real life, like you don't get over your friend doing all of these things to your child.
And yes, there's so many comments.
Brooks is not a child.
He's 22 years old, but he's Meredith's kid.
Like
40 years old and they're 80 arguing.
He's Meredith's kid.
Agreed.
And to be honest, like I do feel like Meredith was acting like very erratically, but like how frustrating to like literally have facts, like to know that this particular person is saying things about your child, liking things on social media that that are of a homophobic nature, when you, of course, just feel so protective of your child.
And of course, when it pertains to his sexuality, he hasn't even spoken about it.
Like you just want to protect him.
So you know all of this to be fact.
Like you live in the real world with fact-based database questions.
And you finally get the nerve to con confront this person and the thing they have to say is like
delusional.
It wasn't me.
I don't, I don't know what you're talking about.
I don't run my own social media.
I would have reacted the same way too.
Like,
and that's exactly what she said.
She's like, Jen is like, what are you talking about?
I'm talking about reality.
Like, you, Jen Shaw, live in your own world where everyone is against you and you don't do anything to hurt anyone and like you're the victim in all this.
When the actual victim, which is Meredith and her family, I would have exploded as well, honestly.
Like, so frustrating to just talk to someone who's so delusional and devoid of any sort of realistic nature.
I had no issue with Meredith's reaction.
I would have reacted in the exact same way.
And she also, like,
explained herself and her POV so well.
And it's like anything other than I'm sorry is unacceptable.
And I mean, I guess it was enough for Heather.
So Jen might have thought it was enough for Meredith just to say that wasn't me.
I have to say that.
No, because Heather is a pushover who's so desperate to be friends with Jen that Jen can get away with these like fake ass
lies apologies filled with lies.
But Meredith is a strong fucking woman and she also is like she would probably forgive Jen if she received an apology that was so deep and heartfelt and sincere.
But she's not even getting a
shitty apology.
She's getting nothing.
She has to leave.
I totally respect that.
And honestly, fuck Lisa Barlow and fuck Jenny too.
I was just about to say, I really didn't like Jenny getting involved.
I didn't like her getting involved, but like
at first when she jumped in, I was like, okay, with, you know, there needs to be some mediation.
Order.
We need
order in the court.
And she was like, order in the court.
She was bringing like strong energy, but she said in her confessional that she doesn't agree with the way that Meredith handles things, which is like just to ice people out I disagree with her me too with Jenny about that I think there are lines that people have in life and when you boundaries when you've crossed that line like the expectation that you are forgiven is is not gonna be there yeah or you can be forgiven but like the relationship is tainted it always will be you can't go back from certain things completely agree i was so disappointed in jenny because up until then i'd really liked her and honestly this has absolutely nothing to do with you so for you to butt in with the worst take of all time that was just really brave of you jenny like really brave no and with so so much energy.
And like, I keep saying this, like, all the new girls come in, they bring all of this energy into whatever conflict they choose.
And it's always the wrong conflict.
Always.
And I'm like, and always the wrong energy.
I'm like, but I, but I do look forward to seeing that energy elsewhere.
Right.
And then,
yeah.
Mia.
Mia.
Crystal.
But it seems like Mia brings it next week.
Next week with Canada.
On Potomac.
So Jenny.
Crystal.
Yeah.
Jenny, I like that you have a fighting spirit.
I look forward to seeing you bring it to maybe when Jen Sha is
arrested and taking advantage of, you know, the most vulnerable people.
No, I love the fighting energy, but like channel your energy in more positive ways.
Like, because you were just so wrong.
Like, I'm sorry, there was literally nothing wrong with Meredith.
And honestly, the fact that everyone was like so outraged by her and like, you know, Meredith, calm down, come back.
Like, they're guesslating her because Meredith is 100% entitled to feel angry that her son is being dragged by a grown woman.
Yes, I know, he's 22.
He's still her son, who's struggling with something like his sexuality.
And Jen is out here.
Jen is out here accusing Heather of being racist with
literally no like
proof.
And then she's out here being like dead ass homophobic.
And saying that wasn't me.
And saying, I don't know what you're talking about.
I actually really can't.
No, and then Jen turns it into like, she's the victim.
What about my family?
What about your family?
That was, I'm sorry.
That was crazy.
And then when Meredith finally left and Jen's like, why am I the reason for everybody?
Oh, the problem is in the world.
It's like, I literally, I can't deal with people who are textbook villains and then find a way to make themselves the victims.
The mentality.
At least if you're going to be a villain and you're going to be mean and you're going to talk shit.
Own it.
You can't also be the victim.
It's a crazy thing to do.
And it drives people who are arguing with you.
It drives them crazy.
Look at Meredith.
Like, it's so devoid of reality.
Yeah.
It's probably infuriating.
And honestly, now I kind of understand with Heather, like, if you actually really want to go toe for toe, like, you're not speaking to someone who lives on this planet.
So like honestly, if you just want to fix things with Jen, like just fucking, you have to forget about everything because you're never going to get to a place.
Right.
But like the only reason to do that is like if the other stuff with Jen and the friendship is like, you know, we're salvaging.
There's,
you know, she seems like a fun friend.
And like.
Heather sees value in their friendship.
Right.
I think for Meredith, nothing would ever be more valuable than, you know.
Her son.
Her son.
So I understand where she's coming from.
I probably would have reacted the same way.
I really don't like this narrative that Meredith doesn't have good style.
Like, I know she wears a lot of blazers, but I think she has amazing style.
No, I think, I mean, like Mary.
Because it's coming from Mary.
When Mary was saying it, I was like, Mary, why do you have to be shady towards everyone?
No, and also, like, I understand shadiness like when it's appropriate.
Like, Meredith has amazing style.
No, but not from Mary's point of view.
But I'm sure if you ask Meredith about Mary's style,
and while she's sitting there in, like, her hat, like, it's just about, you know, who you're talking to.
I think Meredith has great style.
I think she's so consistent and classy.
Me too.
And there's nothing, there's nothing negative you could say.
Yeah.
You know, nothing.
Like, it's not groundbreaking every single look, but like,
she knows what looks good on her, and she, like, she has her own.
Sticks with it, yeah.
I like that in personal style.
So, um, all in all, it was a good episode, and it was just gorgeous.
Like, gotta go bike skiing.
Yeah.
Whatever that was.
Oh, yeah.
There, we got, like, so many good ski scenes.
It was like making me so like RDH for like snow and weather.
It was just so stunning.
I also need, like, Whitney and Heather to make up with Lisa because that's just like a
conflict that I have no time for.
No, I think they actually like Lisa these days.
No, I actually don't like Lisa.
And I like Whitney.
Obsess with Whitney.
Yeah.
I need Whitney, Heather, and
Meredith to like be a crew.
I think they are.
And then they had that lunch with Mary.
Oh, yeah, throwing Mary too.
Love Mary.
Love Mary.
I like Jenny too.
I love her kids.
When they spent their Saturday, they do science projects every Saturday.
I was
felling.
Her husband's a little annoying.
Yeah, no, the stuff with the kids was
so wrong.
Stop.
I think.
Did she say she had nine miscarriages?
Leave the woman alone.
I think he'll probably watch that and maybe change his tune.
Plus, she would have to get surgery to even begin the pro.
I mean, it just seems like it's enough.
They have three kids.
Yeah, it's enough.
But like, I just hope one day my kids want to spend every Saturday doing science projects.
No, they're like really cute and like.
And then they all cleaned up the kitchen.
And like, happily, they were like
having fun leaving
so much fun.
Like that, her daughter, who's the cutest camper, she's pretentious camper.
Yeah, she's just so fucking cute.
Yeah.
And they are a pleasure to watch.
Yeah.
Except her husband was really starting to bother me.
No, no, yeah.
Like, so it's not all.
It's all hunky,
right, at the Jenny, Jenny's house.
But like, they obviously, you know, have a really nice family life.
Yeah.
And just spending Saturdays doing science projects, it's like all you could want for the camper.
It's so cute.
It's so cute.
So that was Salt Lake City and that was our show.
That was our show.
That's all we got for you guys and I hope it was enough.
I felt like it was strong.
I do feel like
the chips fall where they may.
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