S4 Ep123: Seven Degrees of Southern Charm: Tuesday, July 13th, 2021
- Music mogul Scooter Braun separates from wife Yael (Page Six)
- Southern Charm's Naomie Olindo and Metul Shah Split Weeks After Moving to NYC Together (PEOPLE)
- Jennifer Lopez to produce and star in Broadway musical project for TV (Page Six)
- Producers Sets To Axe Ramona Singer From 'Real Housewives of New York' After Disastrous Season (Radar Online)
- Kraft Macaroni & Cheese Ice Cream Now Exists - Here's How to Get Your Hands on a Pint, If You Dare (PEOPLE)
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Good morning, millennials.
Welcome back to the morning toast.
It's Tuesday.
Oh, it is Tuesday.
I thought you were going to keep going.
Yes, I did end the song abruptly.
And let us know more about Tuesday and how we can expect to be feeling.
So it's Tuesday, for sure.
I don't think anyone can argue that, except maybe if you're Australian.
It's Tuesday.
It's kind of gloomy in New York, and I'm not going to lie, I'm living for it.
You know what I was thinking about on the way here?
What?
You know how people have seasonal depression, and it's like during the winter, it's like really kind of depressing.
And then the sun comes out in the spring, and you really do start to feel better.
I think I have anti-seasonal depression.
Like, I'm depressed in the summer when it's hot, and I have chubrub, and I'm forced to wear shorts.
I'm like, shamed for wearing leggings.
And then, like, in the winter, when we're all bundled up, looking so chic, drinking hot cocoa, everyone's like depressed, and I'm like the opposite.
You're blossoming.
Yeah.
I think that's what I figured out.
I think that that's possible.
You know, like there are definitely plants that blossom in the winter, and you're just one of them.
I'm a fern.
You're a McPlant.
Yes.
And you know what else I was thinking about?
You're just full of thoughts.
So I don't always watch a show when we get home because I don't know, I find myself to be like very self-critical, but
it's necessary because I watched yesterday's show and we just had like a lot to catch up on.
I swear to God, I was not speaking English.
Oh, really?
Talking so fast, swallowing entire sentences.
Like, I don't know how anyone followed what I said yesterday.
And I was talking over you like a next level amount.
I'm sure you didn't even realize because you're so conditioned.
There was only one time that I realized.
I know, during the Love Island recap.
I'm not even, I don't even remember.
So I just, I'm just gonna be like super self-aware today.
Okay, cool.
Well, you know what?
That's, this is probably like not the right time since you're like on this new journey.
Like I have a gift for you.
And you would think like I should give you a gift when you've completed your journey.
Is it a food bag?
No, I'm giving you this gift at the outset.
Just a little context.
It's not, it had nothing to do with your birthday because I ordered it a while ago, but it got here yesterday.
You were always thinking of me.
I am always thinking of you because so many things just remind me of you.
And so even though I didn't get you a cake for your birthday, like
I'm thinking of you year-round, and you still didn't bring that puzzle home that I got you.
And I just want all the viewers at home to know when I went away in March, I saw a gift that made me think of Claudia.
It was a puzzle that like had leaves on it and it like was meant to be peaceful.
Like puzzles are supposed to be like it says the word peaceful.
It says like it's supposed to bring inner peace.
It's a puzzle that brings inner peace.
I'm like, that's so Claudia.
So thoughtful.
Got it for her.
It's still in the studio.
Never took it home.
Can I just tell you that like I've been really vocal like in the last year about puzzles.
And so I've literally gotten so many puzzles.
Like it's like when people think of me now, they buy me puzzles.
I got two from Ben's mom last night for my birthday, and they're like sick Jonathan Adler ones.
I'm overwhelmed with puzzles.
I understand.
Okay, that's puzzling.
Well, this is not a puzzle.
Okay, I have a gift for you, and is it edible?
No, I just saw it, it made me think of you.
Oh my god, and I hope you enjoy it.
Oh my god, I'm so nervous.
Oh, I'll close my eyes.
Of course, once again, I did not wrap it.
Okay, it looks appears to be a blouse.
It is a blouse,
It's from.
You're kidding.
You guys.
Please, can I get my camera?
Okay.
Maverick Athletics.
Now, this is why it's so interesting, ready?
Of course, Maverick is a main character in my New York Times best-selling book, available now on all platforms.
I'm the protagonist.
Do you know whose company this is?
Logan Paul.
Yeah, and like our boyfriend over here, Logan Paul.
So this is just a multi- It's a layered gift.
It's a layered gift, and you want to, like, I ordered it when he was fighting.
Like that's what made me because I saw you saw the I saw the he's Maverick Athletic.
So I went to see like his merch to see if he had anything that had Maverick on it.
So much stuff was sold out, but I managed to snag this shirt.
Okay.
Thank you so much.
This is such a, so meaningful, honestly.
Like it has so many meanings.
Yeah.
Because even if Maverick wasn't a character in the book, I would have loved a piece of Logan Paul merch.
Yeah.
And this is just everything of the sort.
It really, really is.
Thank you so much.
You're so welcome.
And I also think it's a cute shirt.
100%.
I'm going to wear it on the show tomorrow.
Awesome.
Maybe I'll pair it with some black leggings.
Just a thought.
That's really great.
Thank you so much.
You're so welcome.
When it came, I was just so excited.
I've been waiting for it to come.
What a bright Tuesday.
I need to start like thinking of you for gifts because it's like a fun thing to do on the show.
It is a fun thing to do on the show.
And it's just like a nice thing to do for people.
But it's not like I'm like, I want to get so-and-so a gift.
Let me seek one out.
But like, I just, when I see something, I'm like.
this reminds me of so-and-so.
I have to get it.
Buying gifts for people like for birthdays is kind of hard because you're like seeking for the moment, if that makes sense.
Whereas like if somebody just crosses your desk.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm going to start getting you stuff too.
Okay, cool.
Cool.
That's exciting.
Can I put it on the company?
Sure.
But you did get me a cake for my birthday.
So like we're even.
And a Gucci bag a few years ago.
Yeah.
A few years ago.
Yeah.
It wasn't that many years ago.
No, like it was a long time ago.
We haven't said.
We haven't said
Gucci bag.
Gucci bag, Gucci bag, Gucci bag, Gucci bag.
It's because we don't have a clock.
Right.
We were talking about that last week.
You know what?
Can you put on the Apple TV just like a clock app?
Just so when it becomes 11-11, we can make a wish.
I don't even know what I would wish for.
What did we use to wish for besides a Gucci bag?
Well, you know, they were more so like internal wishes.
Anything that I would wish for, I don't think I would share because then it wouldn't come true.
And it's like really fucking personal.
It's so personal.
Even though I pretty much wish for the same thing, like with every gift.
And it's like a
broad range of life.
I think everyone does that.
Of course.
Health, happiness, success for everyone you care about.
And like inner peace.
Yes.
I think a lot of people wish for that.
And for yourself.
And world peace.
And harsher punishment.
What I always for parole violators.
Scotted.
Okay.
I always quote that line from Miscongeniality, and I can never remember what she actually said.
I'm pretty sure she said for harsher punishment for parole violators.
I think.
I don't think that's what she says, actually.
I'm going to look it up.
Google it.
And that reminds me, I don't know if I've ever shared this on the show.
Do you know what my drag name is?
Um, no.
Disgrace Elou Freebush.
That's great.
Isn't it?
Yeah.
Do you have one?
No.
Where would I get one?
You come up with it.
It's not like a store.
Oh.
Yes.
That would be harsher punishment for parole violators, Stan.
Very good.
Thank you.
Yeah, you need to think about that.
Okay, I will.
I mean, it may be a challenge.
Maybe some people will have some good.
Oh, I'm sure they will.
It has to be something with like red, you know, because your hair is red.
Yeah, sure.
We'll see.
I'll think about it.
You guys think about it too.
Cool.
Except, I was told by some members of the gay community that the Miscongeniality reference is a very like hetero reference.
Oh, which I thought it was like totally a popular movie in the gay community, but I guess it's not.
Interesting.
Yeah.
So it's not like a totally valid drag name is what I've heard.
Okay.
From Brian.
So maybe you need to rethink yours as well.
Yeah, but I'm like so proud of the creativity that like I came up with, you know?
Yeah.
That I'm not willing to let it go.
Huh.
I know.
It's good.
It's a pick-off.
You know, just, you know,
have confidence in your choices.
It's so hard when you make the worst choices most of the time, you know?
Yeah.
Okay, how was your day yesterday?
It was really good.
We were booked and busy.
We got our Patreon up, the birthday vlog on patreon.com slash morning toast.
It gave me anxiety re-watching it because I had such a negative experience.
You'll see why in the vlog.
I had such a negative experience leading up to the party for a multitude of reasons that I believe to be extremely valid.
And that's not only because, like, you know, I was in my head having anxiety.
Now, days later, I was valid in my concerns.
Do you agree?
I do agree.
And watching your...
your footage I found to be really interesting.
And also while I posted this in my story yesterday while I was uploading the vlog, I was like, we did a vlog for your birthday three years ago.
I'd love to see like how the vlog style has changed since.
It was so
like really so different.
So different.
First of all, we were so different.
Like the way, of course, the way I look was atrocious.
The way we look, of course, but also how we talk.
I feel like.
Every year I get older, my voice gets less and less in New York.
Like I've always felt that way when I watch my Bop Mitzvah video.
Like it's so crazy.
And now when I watch videos from a few years ago, I do sound more like nasal Long Island vibe.
Yeah.
You know?
So, but not less New York, like less less Long Island.
There's a difference.
That's true.
There's a big difference.
Yeah, and I'm sure people listening who don't live in New York are like, what the fuck are you talking about?
But it used to be worse, I'm telling you.
Yeah, like New York is like, you know, I walk and I talk in the streets of New York and I drink lots of water and coffee.
Long Island.
We don't even talk like that.
No, but like sometimes we don't want to talk like that.
Martin Lauren's daughter.
Martin Lauren's daughter.
Brorborne.
And then Long Island would be, I walk and I talk in the streets of New York and I drink lots of water and coffee.
Lots of water.
It's a subtle difference.
Yeah, no, it is different, though.
But also, our vlog style was so kind of amateur because we were so new to the vlogging space.
And I remember people giving us really good feedback.
Like, you guys just like, you know, filming yourself singing is what we see on Snapchat.
So like evolve on the vlog.
And it was good advice.
We don't really do that anymore.
And we're obviously much better vloggers now.
But it was, I watched it because you told me to watch it and it was cringy, but it was joyful.
And also, what's interesting is like we don't really sing on Snapchat anymore.
So it's like we could could go back to filming like that.
Times are changing.
Because
like we don't do that stuff anymore.
So it was really like cute to see just everyone.
We all like really look so different and are so different.
We're just like so much younger.
I mean and we were three years younger but like you can really tell.
Also what I thought was cool from the video and what I took away from it is like pretty much everyone at that party I would still invite to my party today and did invite to my birthday party.
So it's like I like that I literally have the same group of friends like years.
Well, it's only three years.
It's only been three years.
We're talking some people, like, you know, every year it's new people at their party yeah no so it was cool so if you are a patreon member check out the vlog that we posted yesterday and then you can also just search birthday in the tab and Claudia's old birthday vlog will come up and like hundreds of other sickening videos sickening um so my day was good it was busy got so much content out yesterday's episode was so long so long i guess we just had a lot to catch up on and we still didn't even get to cover all the news that had happened over the weekend it has spilled into today's episode it has i'm i'm gonna just apologize for that like right when we wrapped the show i was like fuck we forgot to talk about Scooter Braun.
I don't know how I, like, it wasn't top of my newsfeed, but it wasn't.
So, we're talking about it today.
But, you know what?
I'm actually grateful that we're talking about it today because last night I re-watched Lily Pond Studios,
Disney Plus Taylor Swift folklore, and a lot of folklore like is about Scooter Braun.
And I actually feel like I have refreshed my memory on a lot of what went on during that time.
Okay.
Also, I put this on my Instagram story, but when I was searching for Taylor Swift in Disney Plus, the Jonas Brothers experience came up, which is a concert DVD/slash like montage documentary of their first like big tour.
And Demi Lovato did a cameo, and so did Taylor Swift.
She sang should have said no.
I think that was like when her and Joe were dating, and I watched it, and it was so cute.
And then I was just like scrolling through it to see if there was anything else interesting, and Scott Borschetto was in it.
Isn't that weird?
Because of Taylor?
No, he was with the brothers.
Like, it had nothing to do with Taylor.
This was like 30 minutes before in the movie.
Interesting.
Yeah, maybe he was like their manager or maybe when they were at Big Machine like in the beginning.
I don't know.
Or maybe he was like scouting them.
Yeah, it was really interesting.
I was like, I was like, I was like, I was just getting to the show.
And I was like, who is that curly-haired freak?
And it was Scott Borschetto.
Crazy.
Crazy times.
Well, I think that's a great segue to get into the Fast Life stories that you do need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast.
And that's for sure true.
For sure.
But I'm already feeling so much better from yesterday.
And I just kind of want to keep that momentum going to keep my RDH flare-ups.
To a minimum.
To a minimum.
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Okay, first up: if last week was about happy couple news, this week is about sad couple news.
Yes.
First, music mogul Scooter Braun separates from his wife, Yael.
Sources say Braun, who famously discovered Justin Bieber and even more famously got into a public fight with Taylor Swift, has been through a rocky patch with mining heiress Yael Cohen Braun, and they decided to take a break.
Interesting factoid, mining heiress.
Go back.
Mining heiress.
So an heiress of a mining empire.
Yeah.
Well, they didn't say empire.
Could be, you know, a small business.
They don't just call people heiresses.
I agree.
I found that to be an interesting factoid as well.
And I know that I share this interesting factoid all the time, but you know, whenever I hear the word heiress, what do I think of?
Serena Williams perfume commercials from like 15 years ago.
Her name backwards is an aris.
And so she had a perfume called Anheiress, and that's always what I think about.
Sorry.
Okay, thank you.
Germane to the subject.
Completely.
But insiders tell Page 6 that in spite of persistent rumors doing the rounds in the mus music industry, there are no plans for them currently to divorce.
They're friends and they're still living together at the moment, but they are separated, question mark.
Oh.
That was the initial report that came out.
And also, like, based on their Instagrams, I think a lot of people are confused because they're very much posting as a happy family.
So it's quite unclear.
Well, there's a few things at play here.
One,
I did read somewhere that there are some like lawsuits going on with Scooter and perhaps this might be like a protective measure.
I don't know.
That's what one theory.
I don't know if I believe that.
I don't think you have to divorce.
Yeah, and I don't know if I believe that.
That doesn't add up to me.
Now, everyone, of course, when you think of Scooter Braun, who do you think of?
I think of Justin Bieber.
Okay.
Most recently, most people think of Taylor Swift.
Yes.
And I know a lot of the Swifties are like quaking in their boots.
The Master of Spin has a couple side flings.
Good wives always know.
All of that.
But I don't know.
And I'm so firmly Team Taylor, of course, but I just feel weird about like celebrating.
Like, let's say this is a divorce.
Like, we have kids, like, we're all like jumping for joy because like a family's being broken apart.
I don't like that.
Are people jumping for joy?
The Swifties are because there's like, you know, Kim and Kanye first and then Scooter and Yael.
Like, who's next?
And
we love it.
I support Taylor wholeheartedly, 100%.
I don't like that kind of dialogue.
Understood.
Also, I hate to break it to everyone, but at the end of the day, like, this has nothing to do with Taylor Swift.
No, 100%.
So I agree.
I find this to be like a sad sad story.
I think if we can remove Taylor Swift from the equation, because she really has nothing to do with their relationship or them getting divorced or living together and separating.
I feel like a lot of people looked at Scooter and Yael as like couple goals for a very long time because they've been together for a while and he has so much success and like, you know, those things change people.
Yeah.
Up until now, it hadn't changed their relationship.
So
I find this to be a sad story.
Plus, they have three kids, but I also feel like based on, you know, this living together thing, maybe they just can no longer stand each other, are living in separate wings, but they're gonna live together for their family.
Yeah, I mean, I was shocked at the news, like, I never was shocked, yeah, like super surprised.
Yeah, you know what else?
This is really not a lot to do with these people, but it made me think of Love Island because I can't, I discovered another pet peeve of mine.
What, you know, how I said, like, I hate when they call like them the boys on Love Island.
I hate on like shows or in general when people refer to themselves as a power couple.
Same, who does that in Love Island?
They did.
No, but did they do it here?
No, no, no, no.
I was I was just saying because I said the word couple goals.
Got it, got it.
But I just, like, that's just a pet peeve.
No, it's really illusory when people do it, but me and Ben are a power couple.
I'm kidding.
No, it's literally.
It's cringy as hell.
It's so cringy.
Simmer down, sir.
Simmer down.
Simmer the fuck down.
So this was just genuinely shocking news.
But also, the reason why I brought up watching Lily Pond Studios is because on the e-news post where they were like, put a picture of Scooter and Yale was like, you know, whatever.
All the comments were, the master of spin has a couple side flings.
Goodwise, Always No, which is the line from Mad Woman.
It's from The Bridge, and a lot of people think it has to do with Taylor.
And I was watching Lily Pond Studios, and before she performs every song, she sits down with either Aaron Destner or Jack Antrinoff and talks about the song, the meaning behind it, whether it's a story from her personal life or like she watched a movie and wrote a song about it.
And honestly, I...
I hear the lyrics and I understand why people think it's about Scooter, but the way she explained it was just more about like the perception of female rage and was like much deeper than like a service level thing that happened to her.
So honestly, I don't know if I believe that that particular line or song is about them.
I'm just stating like irrelevant to this, but just stating my opinion.
I agree.
And I also think I don't, I wouldn't call Scooter Brown the master of spin from Taylor Swift's perspective.
No, there's a lot of bad blood between them, but it's not because he spinned something in a way and was masterful about it.
If anything, he's having a really hard time spinning it back.
Right.
Like he came out as a loser.
He's not the master of spin.
I agree.
He didn't spin something in one way.
I would say that guy Harvey from TMZ could be considered the master of spin.
Yes, I would agree with that.
Also.
So I just want to put it out there.
I don't think that mad woman is about.
I don't think so either, but there are rumors going around.
Like I think there was like Dumois blinds that like Scooter is cheating.
Well, there were all those messages
about him and Erica Jane, remember?
Okay.
She pumped it.
I really feel like that's also
irrelevant to this story.
It is, but I just want to say cute couple.
No, it doesn't work for me.
No, I agree.
I agree.
It doesn't work for me at all.
No, so I just, like, I want to say a message to our Swifties.
I know we don't like Scooter, but like, I don't really, I really feel weird.
Maybe it's just because I'm a child of divorce.
I don't like the weird like parading and celebrating of a family.
I'll tell you what it is.
I'll tell you what it is.
What's going on between Scooter and Taylor is business.
Yes.
And this is Scooter's personal life.
Yeah.
And I don't think that they should be
equated and used against one another.
Hundreds.
If Scooter's business were to suffer, like they could be like, that's why you get it.
You do dirty business.
You get dirty business.
Right, right.
But like, when it has to do with his personal life, I think it's irrelevant.
And I think it's just like immature to like make fun of it.
So
I won't.
I'm hoping they can work it out.
Me as well.
And by the way, one more thing.
What we know about Taylor, she is a hopeless romantic.
Like, even with people she hates, I don't think she would be wishing divorce upon people, you know?
I don't, but again.
It has nothing to do with Taylor.
It has nothing to do with Taylor, even though she was wishing it.
Like, that's not how divorce works.
It's just very hard when you're like a really invested Swifty to speak on Scooter Braun without literally mentioning her name in every sentence.
Okay, I think.
And that's something.
That is my personal cross to Barry.
And I...
Wait, to bear.
And I think you did your best.
And then it was like every other sentence.
Do you think my best was good enough?
It always is good enough.
That's all we ask for here.
Then nothing like a mad woman.
What a shame she went mad.
Okay, you guys, this next story is really shocking news.
Perhaps more shocking than Scooter Raiding the Eye.
Agreed.
I'm not even gonna lie.
Agreed, because you know what?
Mattoool was stable.
He was good.
He was honorable.
Until he wasn't.
Until he wasn't.
Southern Charms, Naomi Olindo, and Matool Shah split weeks after moving to New York City together.
So I'm sure a lot of you saw this tweet going around yesterday that Naomi and Mattoo had split.
And at first, I was like, no, they didn't.
They couldn't have.
It was just a tweet.
And I was like, there's no fucking thing.
They just moved to New York.
Like, makes no goddamn sense.
Take it away.
But then it kept surfacing, that same tweet.
And Naomi did unfollow unfollow Mattool on Instagram and deleted all of her pictures with him, except for ones where there were other people in it.
And now people confirms that they have split.
The split has come just weeks after the couple moved to New York City together.
Quote, Naomi and Mattool are no longer together, her agent said.
She's back in Charleston and plans to stay there for the time being.
But for those who don't know, Naomi was on Southern Charm a few years ago.
She dated Craig Conover.
She was like responsible for all those iconic lines about his sewing career.
You sit home and you sew.
Yeah, you sit home and you sew.
And then they broke up because Craig was, you know, like...
He wasn't bailing up to the bar.
He wasn't belling up to the bar.
And she met Matt Tool, and she was on the show for like one season with Mattool, but he's like a really serious guy.
He was a doctor.
He's getting his residency.
He's a psychologist.
And they just had this really serious life.
And she chose him.
Like, she left the show to be with him, have a serious life.
And then they just moved to New York.
And literally, the day they moved, like, this tweet was going around.
Yeah, like a week or two after they moved.
So she was in Charleston this past weekend.
I think for, you know, her own reasons, I think she had like a friend's mother.
Same, I don't think it had to do with this.
No.
And then I think she discovered something that has led her to break up with him.
Because she posted an Instagram story addressing what's going on.
Okay.
She posted this last night.
And before, I think it was all
conjecture.
But she posted a picture of her looking sad with her cat.
She said, Nothing will be worse than losing my dad, but this is a close second.
Betrayal is never easy for anyone.
So he betrayed her.
And I'm just so sorry to anyone else that has stumbled across those terrible messages.
What are the terrible messages?
Yeah, I'm absolutely positive I will regret posting this tomorrow, but so many of you have reached out saying you're feeling a similar pain.
I'm so, so sorry.
Yeah, so it's obvious she stumbled upon like a computer or a phone with like dirty messages.
Um, it's been on Dumois before, and I think Dumois resurfaced some of the blinds she got because it's now relevant that like he was talking to an ex for a long time, seeing the ex, going on dates, making out in public.
So that's atrocious.
Like that's such a betrayal.
And Naomi's such a nice, cool girl.
Like I live for her.
So I'm like mad.
I'm obviously mad that he cheated on her because she's a queen and nobody deserves to be cheated on.
But I'm also mad that like she really put so much of herself into the relationship.
Like she gave up her job, like her life, because he didn't like being on the show and things that made her happy for him and that made her happy.
And then he just goes and disrespects her life.
Right.
And they moved to New York, I'm pretty sure, for him, for his job.
Yes.
Disgusting.
Disgusting.
I'm so upset.
And I just never expected that from Matool.
Like, I actually met Matul.
He was a lovely man.
And I'm like, this is so great.
Like, it was so endgame for Naomi.
Like, I never even thought about them as being anything other than like mommy.
Like, riding off into the sunset.
Yeah.
And now we're just like taking steps away from the sunset.
And it's shocking.
We're very far from the sunset.
I'm just going to be further of Naomi.
I can't imagine.
I just can't, like, her whole world.
Shook the fuck up.
Shook the fuck up.
I'm very sad for her.
She's such a nice.
And like, now I'm, of course, like thinking,
let's get back on Southern Charm.
Like, of course, yeah, because she was great on the show, she was great on the show, and she has her business, Shop La Bay, that would be great for the show, also.
Yeah, with like interesting girls who work for her.
No, and also, like, that would be great press, like, for her business.
And I think it's time to get back on the show.
I mean, maybe, like, not right this second, but when she's ready.
But maybe right this second.
But when she's ready.
You know, I was thinking, Southern Charm is always in the news.
Like, the show is so good for a million reasons, but also because even when they're not on, like, there's so much drama.
Like, A-Rod, Madison, Craig, and Paige are dating.
They are.
They were spotted.
Someone took a picture of them on the street, like, hugging, embracing, sitting on their laps.
Like, there's something there.
Austin is always, you know, like starting shit.
Chris and Kevin.
Like, they are such a
Thomas.
Right.
They are a star-studded cast.
Like, these people know how to be famous and how to make a TV show and be interesting.
Like, it's really admirable.
I commend them.
Yeah, very true.
Very true.
Yeah.
Always look forward to it coming back.
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Next up, Jennifer Lopez is going to Broadway.
She will produce and star in a Broadway musical project for TV.
J-Lo has reportedly partnered.
A Broadway musical project for TV?
Which is it?
All of them.
J-Lo has reportedly partnered with Oracle Scion and Hollywood producer David Ellison's production outfit, Skydance, to develop musical projects for TV and film.
The musicals will be based on the Concord Theatricals library, which includes the Rogers and Hammerstein catalog.
Rogers and Hammerstein's famed musicals include Carousel, South Pacific, The King and I, The Sound of Music, Cinderella, and Oklahoma.
Where the me of we.
Sorry.
I don't know.
So, Oklahoma, where the...
I forget how it goes, but because I sing it when I'm around Michaela, Miskerella, where the Miskers goes to play.
That's why I saw Oklahoma.
And
no disrespect to theater, because I really do respect the art of theater.
But it was the most
atrocious show I've ever seen.
And you know what they did?
Since then, the curious incident of Dog in the Night, how could it be worse?
Ready?
I'm going to tell you exactly how.
So there's a scene, spoiler alert.
I don't know.
Someone gets shot in the show.
I don't know who.
I don't remember.
And what they do is they make it like an immersive theater experience where literally the entire theater becomes pitch black.
And if you don't know what is going on,
like if you've never seen the play, it's very alarming.
Becomes pitch black and there's silence, silence, silence.
Gunshot.
The most real sounding gunshot I've ever heard in my life.
So I didn't know someone gets shot.
I'm in a dark theater in this climate.
That's horrible.
It was.
I literally like was in tears.
It was so traumatizing.
I left immediately afterwards.
I was so shook up.
I'm like, are you fucking kidding me?
They don't give you any warning.
Like it was horrible.
Horrible.
I'm sorry.
So, sorry, I digress.
I just, it was so bad.
Like, oh my God.
And like, it's, it's like this immersive experience.
So like, if you're sitting in the front row, which I was, you're sitting at like a big dinner table.
And there's like chili and cornbread and you can't even eat it.
Like it was, it was so weird.
Cornbread.
Yeah, it was so weird.
Yeah, I don't know.
I really didn't understand.
The whole production went over my head.
Like, I had no idea what was going on.
That's insane.
I just thought Oklahoma was like 42nd Street.
Like, not it, but it's the Midwest.
42nd Street is everything.
Hear the sounds of marching feet.
Of marching feet.
Get some tempo.
On the avenue, I'm taking you to 42nd Street.
That's like my Broadway voice, you know?
I mean, everyone has.
Do you have one?
Of course.
You're like quaking.
Do it.
Hear it.
No, because you made fun of me.
No, I didn't.
You were just off tempo.
You were off tempo.
Ready?
Let's do it again.
Hear the sounds.
Of marching feet.
You're wrong.
No, you're wrong.
We'll have to check it out.
Yeah, we'll check it out.
Should I pull it up?
We'll check it out.
Should I pull it up?
They're not going to be able to.
Okay, yeah, sure.
You have to play it.
What's the song called?
Okay.
YouTube?
42nd Street.
Opening number, right?
Yeah, I think so.
Okay.
Can't imagine what the opening number isn't.
Hold on, I just don't want to put it.
I don't want to to get the copyrighted.
Oh, God.
This is like community theater.
Actually.
You can put it on Spotify.
Okay, I'm here.
I'm here.
It's a fabulous song.
I'm taking you to.
Hold on.
Oh, this is not community theater.
This is like sensational.
okay i have no idea okay we'll figure it out we'll figure it out later we can fight about it later let's the show must go on i can be right later okay yes it's never too late to be right same so j-lo's coming to broadway um and also perhaps on tv that just makes me feel like it'll be something that it's also like nbc live but not nbc yeah i'm first of all very confused as to what this actually is i don't know how you make a broadway musical for tv like is it on broadway or is it on tv it could be both yeah and i do find this really interesting if she's developing that's one thing but if she's staring because there there have been rumors for a really long time that, like, J-Lo cannot sing.
Like, she doesn't sing live.
She's had someone else singing her vocals her entire career.
She's a great performer, great dancer, but she's not like a vocalist.
And vocalists go to Broadway.
So this might be debunking that entire theory, or she's just more behind the scenes.
But it said she's going to star.
She's going to star in at least one of the projects.
And also,
I used to really believe that theory.
Me too.
And then I saw her perform.
Super Bowl.
No, but Super Bowl, I think you actually do lip-sync, even if you're a a great talent.
Or
you can get away with it.
No, we saw her perform at Robin Hood.
Oh, you did?
No, I was not there.
And I just sort of was like, you know what?
I'm going to let Sleeping Dogs lie.
I'm just going to believe J-Lo.
That she's actually singing.
That she's actually singing.
But I also think that maybe throughout her career,
maybe there's other voices that are mixed in with hers.
But I think she can carry a tune.
Me too.
So I think she could do that.
I think she can do this.
Well, I very much look forward to seeing the performances and finally, you know, judging it for myself and letting this conspiracy theory either be validated or completely demolished.
But maybe that's why it's going to be on TV and not
something.
Interesting.
Yeah, so I'm just curious.
I would like some more information on what these projects actually are going to be and what J-Lo's involvement is going to be.
Yeah, I'm sure that things will become more clear, but I just feel like everyone's just trying to switch things up, you know?
And I feel like everyone just throws J-Lo at every problem.
And you know what?
They're not wrong.
She does solve most problems.
She does.
She's an icon.
She's a performer.
Her Her hair, like, I think that her Super Bowl performance was one of the best in years.
Like, she's an icon.
Yeah.
So I love that she's just being thrown at different industries.
She has a makeup thing now, a hair thing with A-Rod.
Like, I'm into it.
I'm into it too.
Are you ready for our next story?
It's a little Real Housewives casting news election
conjecture because it's not being widely reported, but it's all over Instagram.
Producers are set to axe Ramona Singer from Real Housewives of New York after disastrous season, says Radar Online.
A source tells radar that the only original cast member who has never left from day one is Ramona Singer, but now her time is up.
Ramona will not be invited back to the next season of the show, which is currently not in production for a couple of reasons.
One, she is too expensive.
She's the only lady that has been on the show from day one, and her salary reflects it.
Plus, the basic premise of the show doesn't work anymore.
A bunch of older white women behaving badly was fun a decade ago, but not today.
The world has changed, and if the show wants to survive another decade, it must change too, And that starts with the cast.
I want to say two things.
One, it must literally eat Luanne up inside that, like, Ramona's referred to as the only OG because one season, like 10 years ago, Luanne got demoted to friend of, and she gave it her all, and she got her job back.
Like, it must just kill her.
She's not even regarded as an OG, even though in my mind, she is.
Like, I, she was on the show that one season, and she did make a mark, but even when she was.
So, I just want to say, yeah, I agree with that.
Devastating.
Also, I just want to say, as I was reading this quote, like,
Real Houses in New York and and page six are like intertwined.
Intertwined.
If there was a source that was going to give casting, a legit source that was going to give casting news to a publication, they would have gone to page six.
Agree.
That makes me think that the story is not true.
Because the only somewhat legitimate outlet that wrote this up is Radar Online.
And sometimes they get it right with Housewives stuff.
Up until now, it's just a rumor, but I think it's an interesting thing to talk about.
Yeah.
That, first of all, I don't know if I think the answer to the Roni problem is Ramona, but I do agree.
They hit an all-time low rating, 700,000 viewers or 760,000 last week.
And Ramona must cost them over a million a season.
So if the show's not bringing that aspect of it, I actually do understand.
Financially, the show doesn't make money.
You get rid of the most expensive asset.
I don't know if Ramona is the problem.
I don't think it's just like a one-person thing.
And every time I think of like who should be fired, I'm like, well, like Leah, but actually she's kind of funny and she could be the future of the show.
I think Ebony should stay.
know, I could argue that every single one of them.
Here's the thing.
I think individually, I would want them all to stay.
Together, they don't work.
I also think that if producers are looking at this season and looking at the ratings and taking away that it's Ramona that needs to go, I don't think that's true either.
And I also think that like, at the end of the day, I think they have to look back on what happened at OC and regret firing Vicki.
Oh, you think?
I do, because the show only got worse and now it's so untethered.
And like every season, it's like, wipe the slate clean.
There's no like anchor.
And I think that Vicki, and I was one of the people who was like, it's time for Vicki to go because she approached the show as this is my show and there's no space for other people.
And I do think that that's when it's your time to go.
But look at Teresa.
She stays regardless.
Also, Ramona, for someone who's an actual OG, she doesn't really have that attitude.
She definitely has like a
superiority towards like new girls in general, but she doesn't come on reunions and act like it's her show and she doesn't need to answer questions.
Agreed.
I think the Vicki Gumbleson remark is interesting.
I think their mistake wasn't necessarily firing Vicki.
It was firing Vicki and doing nothing else.
So if they're just going to cut Ramona and think that the rest of the women are going to be able to take the show back to over a million ratings, I don't think that's the case.
Like, I think that if Ramona goes...
Maybe it's time to you clean house with all the older women.
No, yeah.
And also when it comes to
five new people.
The women who behave the worst, honestly, it's Sonia.
Like Ramona
gets drunk on the show and doesn't really go off the rails or like act in a way that's so unhinged.
Yeah.
But Sonia does.
Like the Morgan Letters, the, you know,
just this week in North Fork.
Like, that's, and that's like behavior that's not interesting to watch because it's insane.
It's Dorinda-like behavior, and that's why Dorinda was like that.
Yes.
And I don't think, and so I agree with that, but I don't think that Ramona is the culprit of that.
Yeah, I don't know what
maybe, maybe the feeling, or if these rumors are true, like maybe they're thinking like it's just time.
Like everything does come to an end.
A lot of OGs are being, you know nini left and then vicky was asked to leave like maybe that's the thinking i just don't understand i'm curious like if the plan is to get rid of ramona what else are we doing because i don't think that's going to solve all these problems and i also think there's still so many spaces open on the show there's only five main characters right now they could bring in three new people before they have to get rid of someone yeah but if the show is not having ratings and they're like not making as much money as they once were like ramona is expensive they could offer her less money.
Do you think she would take it?
That's up to her.
Yeah.
That's interesting.
Yeah.
Like I just, I think that this is a little premature.
But I guess it's also not valid.
Like not so verified.
Verify.
But when I read it, I was like, that's not going to necessarily make the show better.
No, it's not.
It's just, it's a, it's in a, it's, the franchise is in a weird space and it's in a similar place to OC.
And if OC had correctly
fixed the franchise after firing Vicki, there would be like some sort of precedent to follow, but there's not.
What would you have wanted them to see?
What would you have now in hindsight?
What should they have done differently?
With Vicki?
Yeah, like they fired Vicki, then you said they did nothing else.
What should they have done then?
Bring on more people, bring something.
Like they just cut Vicki and expected the rest of the group to be enough when the rest of the group is nothing.
Yeah.
Like, that's what I'm saying.
If they just cut Ramona and think that the show is going to become better with just those four women, or maybe one extra, that's not going to do it.
It didn't do it on OC.
Yeah.
I think they should bring in three new people.
Now on OC, I've heard there's like two or three new girls coming in.
Yeah.
It should have been last season, but there was COVID, of course.
If they're going to cut Ramona, they also have a million other things they need to do because Ramona's not like the one problem with the show.
No, not at all.
And I don't really know what the problem is, but I do think it's a not large enough cast.
Yes, a hundred percent.
I don't know what the problem is either.
Yeah.
We shall see.
But it once was like one one of the best franchises and it has a legacy and it's just like not
Ramona is part of that legacy though.
So I don't know how you
see there was a time in my journey on The Real Housewives where I needed Ramona gone.
Like me, needed me.
And over the last couple years, I've just sort of started to appreciate her lunacy as genuine entertainment.
And so like sometimes I take housewives really seriously.
And like Ramona used to really, really bother me.
I just thought she was like such a two-faced like shit talking.
But then you come to appreciate like that's what this show is all about.
Oh my God, it's 11-12, our first day with a clock, and we missed 11-11.
Not meant to be.
Not meant to be.
Not meant to be.
So I don't know.
I'm torn.
Like, because I know what it's like to want Ramona gone.
I felt that way for a very long time.
But now I'm just kind of like, there's been such a lack in drama over these last few years.
And she's always just been like this great, like, delusional character who we love.
Yeah.
I agree.
There was a time where I would have been cool with this.
And now I'm just like, I just don't think that's the answer.
I don't think it's the answer either.
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Our fifth and final story is a little bit of news that might sound like it'd be good, but it's actually pretty gross.
Kraft macaroni and cheese ice cream now exists.
Here's how to get your hands on a pint if you dare.
Look at it.
Stare it in the face.
Oh, Van Leeuwen.
Kraft partnered with New York City-based ice cream parlor Van Leeuwen to release the limited edition flavor of mac and cheese flavored ice cream.
And yes, it's made using actual powdered cheese from their macaroni boxes.
Quote,
we know that there is nothing more refreshing on a hot summer day than ice cream.
This has to be a prank, right?
That is why we wanted to combine two of the most iconic comfort foods to create an ice cream with the unforgettable flavor of Kraft macaroni and cheese we all grew up with.
This is like
Emily Violet, senior associate brand manager for Kraft.
As big fans of Van Lewin, we knew they'd be the perfect partner to create the ice cream with us.
Good question.
I actually have heard.
No, I don't know if Van Lewin's vegan.
Mac and cheese lovers who are brave enough to try the frozen frozen tree can score a pint on July 14th, beginning at 11 a.m.
I know Claudia will be first in line on the company's website, but be prepared to shell out some dough as one pint costs a whopping $12.
However, if you're in New York City like Claudia, you can try the ice cream for free while supplies last at an ice cream truck stationed in Union Square from 11 a.m.
to 6 p.m.
So I have something controversial to say outside of this because I'm pretty sure this is a prank, right?
No, I don't think it's a prank.
Like it's going down tomorrow at 11 a.m.
Should we go live like down at the ice cream truck?
I honestly, I don't think.
I vomit.
I will like you guys will post these pictures.
They're wrong.
It is wrong.
These pictures are wrong of this.
Well, I also,
I mean, so I'm an ice cream lover.
Fine.
Lover file, kind of sore, some would say.
And
I had something really like controversial to say.
You don't like Van Lewin's?
Yeah, there's like a couple ice cream places in the city, mostly downtown.
Like there's lines around the corner.
Uh-huh.
And there's like a perfectly good tasty delight, like right across the street, or like a 16 handles.
Or a Hagendaz or a Coldstone.
Yeah, like I'm not into this whole like reinventing fancy, expensive ice cream when it's literally all just the same, you know?
And so, like, I just, if I see this, like, a line of people waiting outside Van Luin, there's like a tasty across the street with not one person in it, like, I'm going to the tasty, you know?
Of course.
I, I don't recall ever specifically trying Van Luin, but I know that I feel like I tried it once and I was like, this is what everyone is raving about.
Yeah, and I just feel like it's this kind of like,
I don't know if this is the right word, like this gentrification of the ice cream experience, like making it more expensive, more fancy when it's like ice cream experiences should be like you were a kid, you know, wearing flip-flops and it's the cone is melting in your hand.
Like, it's not that serious, you know?
It's not like this artisanal craft.
Like, it's ice cream.
Yeah.
So these like fancy places with their fancy foreign names, like
Red Mango, you know, that's where I'm at.
You can find me at the local 16 Handles.
Yeah, I mean, I'm really into Coldstone Creamery.
I feel like it's a lost art.
100% Carvelle.
Stunning.
Stunning.
Like, I'm just into the, like, you know, like old school, like, Americana, local ice cream shop, Killwins.
Yeah.
So I'm not into these fancy, like, I feel like
big gay ice cream is really good, though, because it's just ice cream.
Big gay ice cream, I don't loop in with those fancy.
Me neither.
But like Milk Bar too, they make it like milk.
Yeah, it's just like,
ice cream did not need to be reinvented.
No.
And there doesn't need to be this like upper echelon of like fancy creameries.
You know, they're just an ice cream shop, you know?
Yeah.
It's like a malt shop.
I want to go to Pops.
Yeah, but what about Pinkberry?
See, that's interesting.
I think Pinkberry is kind of the cornerstone of these two because now Pinkberry is like this disgusting
chain.
And like you literally, it's like, it's like a Starbucks.
Like it's disgusting.
It's like smelly and dirty and no one's ever in there.
But at one point, they like kind of started
this trend.
Like elite ice cream trend.
So
they kind of became their own, like
their own demise.
Yeah.
Because all these other fancy, better chains started popping up and they just became like a shitty local regional chain.
Yeah, but sometimes it is good still.
It's not.
It is, but you would never have liked it because it's tart.
Well, not anymore.
When it first came out, I was like, everyone is quaking over this tart.
It literally is Greek yogurt.
It was disgusting.
I tried it once.
I'm like, this is not ice cream.
This is a salad.
Like, it was disgusting.
Then they
grew grew because they have chains everywhere.
And then they had like chocolate, peanut butter, vanilla instead of plain tart.
And it's just like subpar ice cream.
And you get so little toppings.
It's like you think you're getting a lot because you get to choose three.
You get a plastic spoon.
You get wrinkles.
You know what the best is that most people won't even know what I'm talking about because it was a very small chain in the city.
I think they maybe had two locations.
I don't even know if you can call that a chain.
Off the wall.
Yeah.
You remember?
Yeah, that was like 16 handles.
Yeah.
There's like 16 handles and you just load up.
16 handles has a quality control problem because they blew up really fast and now every single one is like a dump.
Like there's raspberries on the floor, kids running around.
Like it's just a mess.
Boys and Berry sees like boys and berries.
The shanah is very seat.
It's like shiny.
It's very good.
Yeah, that is a good premise, but not in
a COVID world.
You know what's an underrated franchise?
I really hope you know what I'm about to say.
Come on.
Read my mind.
Is it New York?
It's like an old school franchise.
Not Haage-Daz?
No.
Baskin-Robbins.
No, it's not like a brand name like that.
It might be like a regional thing.
How regional are we talking?
Give me like a locale.
Just give it to me.
Okay, we have been to one in Long Island and also up by camp.
Come on.
I'm trying to think.
I'm going to go to the next one.
I'll give you a clue.
Ready?
T C B Y.
The country's best yogurt.
Like very underrated.
There's so many.
I think they shot themselves in the foot when they named themselves the country's best yogurt because they're not.
And it's also weird.
Like, where do you want to go?
TCBY.
Like, not really like it.
It doesn't roll a lot.
Not at all, but it's pretty bomb.
It is.
There's so many great options, really.
And this definitely makes me want to pro-yo.
Yeah, I just wanted to put it out there, my thoughts on the upper echelon of ice cream creameries.
Thank you for your thoughts.
And so, what are your thoughts on just craft mac and cheese, which is one of your favorite food groups?
It's disgusting.
Flavored ice cream.
I feel like maybe there are people who will like this are pregnant and like having weird pregnancy cravings because I can see someone being like, mac and cheese and ice cream, you know?
I don't think so.
No, I'm on TikToks where people are eating, like trying out the most popular pregnancy cravings.
What are they?
Like bread and ice cream, pickles and peanut butter.
Like, so it's these opposite things.
Okay.
And bread and ice cream isn't that crazy, but pickles and peanut butter.
It's like ice cream sandwich, literally.
With bread.
That's freaky.
Yeah.
But it's like these opposite things, pickle and, and so I feel like this is literally the epitome of a craving.
Mac and cheese.
Actually, they're both like dairy.
No, it's weird.
Cheese and milk.
I want mac and cheese for dinner.
Ice cream for dessert.
It's not like, you know, you got to put it all in a blender.
Yeah.
Now we're in a blender.
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I think you needed to know all of them, really.
For sure.
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