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Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to the Morning Toast.

Happy Monday.

Acknowledge the space that you're in.

Rise and grind today.

It's a Monday, but we're alive.

And we've already been so productive this morning that I kind of feel good.

Like, let's, let's hit this Monday hard.

And it's also a short week.

So, like, how really mad can we be?

I know we have a long holiday weekend coming up everyone So acknowledge that space and we're gonna rise and grind until it's the long weekend But we did rise and we did grind this morning because we recorded an interview which is gonna be at the end of this episode so we can tell you on the show with the girls from the bold type.

We've got Aisha.

We've got Katie.

We've got Megan.

We've got all three.

All three bold type girls.

So like we, the five of us, I would say we were the bold type.

We were being quite bold.

We were being extremely bold.

And if you are a fellow bold typer, then today's episode is for you because ahead of their premiere on May 26th, we're sitting down with them about the final season.

And they were just like so nice and sweet.

It was such a treat.

It was a true delight.

So if you're going to listen, it's at the end of this podcast episode.

If you want to watch the video, we recorded with them via Zoom.

It's up on our YouTube channel.

Just like was really grateful for the opportunity.

Yes, extremely grateful.

I feel like my outfit today is like extremely bold type.

Very Jane.

It's very, right?

She loves a bold bold.

Puppy sleeves.

A bold sleeve.

A bold everything.

And so when I got dressed this morning, I definitely had that in mind.

Yeah, I forgot that, like, you know.

That they're fashion girlies.

No, I knew that, but I was just like, it didn't occur to me to like join them on their fashion journey.

So I just looked like a regular person.

I do try to always dress in theme for our guests, but we're recording another interview today that will be up on tomorrow's episode, so we're not going to spoil it yet.

And so I had to dress for both guests.

And like, when you know who the next guest is, you're going to know that it was really hard for me to not put all my eggs in that passage.

I know, I know.

And I appreciate and I commend your bravery.

I really do.

It's someone's got to do it.

Oh, bless you.

Excuse me.

Oh my god, I haven't sneezed on the podcast in a while.

If you sneezed on it, it means I'm truly brave.

Truly.

We have a great show for you guys.

A lot happened over the weekend.

There was SNL, the BBMAs, Kayla's birthday.

Like, there was just a lot of things happening that we just cannot wait to discuss.

Yeah, it was a nice weekend, though.

I feel like I had a lot of weekend.

I feel like I got, I got a lot of time with the family.

I read a lot.

I finished my book, The Romanov Empress.

It felt so long, but it was just as long as anything else that I read.

And it was really good.

So if you're looking for like a great history of Russia from 1860 to 1920, the Romanov Empress, the story of Maria Fyodorovna.

I am always looking for a nice

brief history of the Romanov Empire from 1860 to 1920.

So the next time I'm searching for that, I will definitely pick that up.

Yeah, because it's like you get the history, but in a, in a snack, well, it's not snackable because it was long, but in a, like, through the lens of one extraordinary woman.

I, too, had a very robust weekend, lots of family time.

I went out on Saturday night and just like

got so drunk.

Like, I I was hungover until I went to bed last night like really bad I guess we didn't really chat that much yesterday because I didn't know it was really really bad like I went to bed at 10 o'clock I had like a splitting headache I just it was one of my worst hangovers to date wow was it worth it yeah okay I didn't have anything to do yesterday either but was the night fun yeah like whatever I was just like desperate for a good time like I went to a party like I normally would have left upon arriving at you know but of course I stayed for like three hours I was just like really wanting to get drunk and like hang out well you know you did it and I'm fine And you did just that.

And now I'm going to take it easy this week before the big weekend.

And it's probably time we let you guys know.

I know it's a long weekend, but of course we make a long weekend longer.

Even longer.

So our last show of the week will be Thursday, and then we'll be back on Wednesday because we just have like things to do.

I'm going to go on a boat, you know, like I have big MDW plans.

Yeah, no, it's really my fault because I have to be out of town.

I have a wedding.

Jackie is a wedding.

So like I then...

took up vacation on the days that you were going to be gone.

Yeah, so we'll be back on Wednesday.

Sorry.

It sounds really long when you say it like Thursday to Wednesday, but everyone's off for the most part like Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday.

Yes, exactly.

So we just took one extra day.

One extra day.

Which we needed to take.

So

we'll give you extra content this week to get you through.

Lots of interviews, lots of Patreon.

Speaking of, I uploaded my What I Eat in a Day vlog to the Patreon, and I think people are really, really enjoying it.

I know that you did.

I actually really did.

And I do believe it goes without saying that before watching the video, Jackie's not a doctor.

No, she's not recommending this for anyone.

This is just what she needs to do.

I'm not a doctor.

I'm just a vlogger.

So I have to show you what I eat in a day.

And honestly, people get those too confused a lot.

100%.

But like, if you're not, you're not a vlogger if you're not showing people what you eat in a day.

And you're not a doctor if you're not a vlogger.

100%.

And I find what other people eat in a day like so interesting.

So it's so interesting.

So, because you just get like good ideas from other people too.

So I filmed that.

And if anybody wants me to record one, it will be three hours long because I just like eat so much.

I would love for you to record one.

You know what?

It's like actually embarrassing because like the video would be five minutes.

Like I have a chewy bar in the morning and I don't eat anything till dinner and then I eat 4,000 calories for dinner.

Like that's just me.

Yeah.

I would be curious.

And also when you start to have to film like what you eat in a day, it's kind of like when you have to like input your accountability into Noom or something.

You really start like paying attention.

You're like, should I eat that?

Or I'm going to have to put on the vlog.

Right.

So I definitely had one of my best days because of the vlog.

So thank you guys for holding me accountable.

So the vlog was basically like your teddymell and cam.

100%.

100%.

If you want to eat well, just vlog it every day.

Okay.

Good thing I don't.

But then you also have to like post it too, and nobody wants to watch that.

No, they don't.

Well, we have a great show for you guys today.

Lots to discuss, lots to recap.

I'm so excited to talk about SNL.

Like I have so many thoughts.

So I just feel like, why not?

Get right into it.

Yeah, do you have anything else to say?

I feel like I always have something to say.

We want to wish a very happy birthday to Magnolia.

Today is Magnolia's first birthday.

Happy birthday, Knowles.

Bruno's girlfriend, he's looking to take you to dinner tonight.

So keep your calendar open.

We love you, Magnolia, even though Magnolia's mom, Margo never watches a show.

So

this is falling upon deaf ears.

Yes, but we're just so happy Magnolia's turned one and we couldn't wish for anything better for her.

And you know what?

She's really like a really good girl.

She's a good girl.

And so I'm really proud.

Like she's that, she's had a really hard first year.

Margo keeps her in line.

Like Margot was the strictest dog mom ever.

But look at Manoli.

She's really like a great dog.

Yeah.

Speaking of dogs, I have a Bruno update that I don't know.

I told you and like you really were like shook by it.

And so was I.

I forgot what it was.

That Bruno, I weighed him this weekend.

Bruno weighs 16 pounds, you guys.

I just feel like that's a lot of brew.

It is, especially because my frame of reference is Theo, who I believe weighs somewhere around 25 pounds.

So you cannot tell me that Bruno only weighs nine pounds less.

Yeah.

No, it was, it was kind of shocking, but I was just like.

The more the merrier.

And then it's also shocking because 16 pounds is like, you would think like lifting weights or something.

Like 16 pounds is is like nothing.

No, but like if you pick up a 15 pound dumbbell, no, that feels like really heavy.

But compared to Brew, I don't know.

I just thought everyone should know that.

Make it make sense.

Brew is growing into just a lovely young man.

Growing.

He does it every day.

He's growing in the evening and evening.

When we play and when we grow a little taller, we can do more things because we're growing.

I didn't know the other half of the songs.

Excuse me.

Okay, we can get into everything.

I don't have SNL's story, so you'll have to slap that in somewhere.

You don't?

No.

Why?

Everyone's quaking.

About what?

You know, it was the final episode of the season.

People were curious if certain cast members were going to be announcing that they're leaving.

None of them did, but like, well, I guess we could just get into it right now.

Yeah, just tell us your thoughts quickly.

I just like, it's never, it's not going to be a story.

Unless Elon Musk is hosting it's not going to be a story.

But that's so funny because I literally thought it was the best episode all season.

I was in hysterics.

And yes, when I'm hungover, I'm more susceptible to laugh at your jokes because I'm like just generous like that.

But I thought it was hysterical.

I thought I learned so much about Anya Taylor Joy.

Like she's, first of all, like, so stunning, but we already knew that.

I didn't know that, like, Spanish was her first language.

She grew up in Miami.

She had a very unique accent.

It was, like, American, but like not.

She grew up in Argentina.

Like, she was just this woman of the world.

And I didn't know anything about her.

She acted so well in all of the sketches.

There were so many funny sketches.

And weekend update, they do my favorite thing, which is at the end of every season, they write jokes for each other.

Oh, yeah.

So, like, they blindly have to read jokes that the other one wrote for them.

And of course, like, Michael Chase, Michael Che always makes the jokes are Colin Joe's, like, really racist.

So it was just, it was so funny.

It was a great episode.

And Lil Nas X was unbelievable.

Like, I just think he's so talented.

And he ripped his pants on stage.

I saw the headlines.

Everyone's like quaking.

I thought he was great.

And you know what?

It really just, like, I was thinking when I was watching him, like, he really has created like an entirely new genre.

Like, I don't even know what I would

call

his music.

Like, it's, it's so different.

And, like, his aesthetic is so different.

And I just thought he was great.

And I thought it was a really good episode.

Now, a lot of people are speculating.

It's a final season.

Like, who's leaving?

Who's staying?

Because there was an emotional moment.

There was an emotional moment at the beginning of the episode with AD, Kate McKinnon, Cecily Strong, and Keenan.

And everyone, well, Cecily got kind of choked up and the whole vibe of the show, I was getting like the impression that Cecily was going to leave, which I am so excited for.

Like I actually think she's the least funny person like on the entire show and that's saying a lot.

And also they gave her like this big tribute thing at

the end of weekend updates.

It was kind of, it felt like her send-off.

Like she didn't say or do anything.

It just had those vibes.

And I endorse, like, I think that is fully the right decision.

And then Pete Davidson came out on weekend update and just made like a weirdly sentimental,

conclusive kind of speech.

Like, this has been so fun.

Thank you so much for letting me grow up in front of you guys.

Bye.

Like, it was, like, I will not be surprised if he leaves.

Yeah, it's, it's honestly surprising seeing that he's still there.

I mean, especially because he's never there.

Like, he doesn't, he was literally in one sketch, and it was actually pretty funny.

But I really feel like they need need to clean house like and a lot and they need to like start promoting Other people like I feel like Beck Bennett like is actually really funny and he deserves like more airtime.

Yeah, um, I really do not think Melissa Villa Senor is funny like at all and I wouldn't mind seeing her go It almost feels like she like does certain impressions and like forces them to make her do it on weekend update like I just don't I don't find her funny at all.

I do not find Cecily Strong funny at all.

I think that Keenan is great.

Keenan should stay.

I think if Keenan or Kate McKinnon leave, like the show is fucked.

Like, they're like the actual, like, celebrity, like, stars, like, that come from SNL, like Chris and Wigg or whoever.

So I don't know what they will do if either one of them leave.

And I don't think either one of them is going to leave.

You don't think, but people think.

People are speculating that Kate McKinnon is leaving.

I don't think she is.

Okay, interesting.

I agree.

They could use a little bit of a shake-up and the ratings stay the same.

Yeah, and just like some of the people who've been on for a few years, like they just didn't take off.

Like Heidi Gardner, like she's funny, but like she didn't, she's like not unique enough in my opinion.

Got it.

So I I just feel like a lot of people who have been there for, like, and they really need to make the show, the Bowen and

Chloe Feynman show.

Like, they are the future of the show, and they're hysterical.

Yeah.

So, that's my thoughts.

Okay, cool.

I only watched the one sketch, bra bra, because you and I need to go to the show.

You guys, I lost my mind.

That was maybe one of the best sketches I've seen in like the last 10 years.

When they said, a bra is for boobies and a bra is for breasts.

I was crying.

And then when they held up up their two bras I'm like I literally have that bra like they were like strap so wide they're a pair of jeans.

It was so fucking funny and so accurate and when they gave Jill Zarin a shout out like it was just everything that was a brilliant sketch.

Yes.

Okay well I might watch the rest of the episode now

that you've raved about it.

Yeah.

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Okay, first story.

Are you ready?

It's the global story.

Is it Eurovision?

It's Eurovision.

It's truly global.

Eurovision winners, Maine Skin, agreed to a drug test after cocaine allegations.

Okay, this is a crazy turn of events.

Well, let's backtrack because...

Let's backtrack.

Most people in America do not know what Eurovision is, and I honestly didn't know about it until last year when I...

Brian got tickets and we went in Tel Aviv.

Yes, and I think for the first time ever, it was broadcast on Peacock, so you could watch it in America.

And then the whole Saturday watching Eurovision, the longest show of all time.

But it was a talent show.

It's interesting.

It's a talent show.

A global talent show for every European country.

It's like the Olympics.

Everyone gets to submit one act.

They write original songs.

They perform them all weekend.

They cut to finalists.

And on Saturday was the finale.

26 countries performed.

One is the winner.

It was Italy.

It was Italy.

And if you watched, then you're genuinely shocked by Italy being the winner.

When the scores were coming in and all the points were going to Italy and Switzerland and France, France deserved it.

Italy and Switzerland, I'm like, are you serious?

Like I was, I thought this was a talent-based competition, so I was kind of confused.

Yeah, no, it was definitely based on nothing other than, I don't know, friendships.

Right, I have no idea why these people voted the way that they voted.

Politics.

But it was, is it political?

Do you really, like, I was wondering as I was watching, because like...

The way these countries were voting made no fucking sense.

Like, no, literally, like, justice for Malta.

Justice for Malta.

Malta was so clearly the winner from, and Israel was in, and I, of course, wanted Israel to win, and even I knew that Malta should have won.

Like, Malta was everything.

Everyone on Twitter was like, it's literally Maltese Lizzo.

Like, she had such an amazing voice, such energy.

Such a great song.

Such a great song.

And she had, like, her girl dancers.

Like, it was just powerful.

Yeah, but there were so many, like, great acts.

And

Italy didn't even

be top 15.

Actually, might have been bottom five for me.

Agreed.

Which was shocking.

So, anyways, they won based on whatever credentials these people voted for.

Based on policy.

Yeah, and then also they got the fan votes.

Like, no, they didn't.

And Malta, like, didn't get a lot of fan votes yet.

And Malta is so small.

And, of course, like,

the bigger countries are at a bigger advantage.

They have more people to vote for them.

It's a really big deal in Europe.

Like, people wait up all night and they vote.

Like, it's a huge deal.

So, of course, you're going to vote for your home country.

And I just don't think there are that many voters from Malta.

Yeah, perhaps.

But that's why the judge votes could really help.

But anyways, in a strange twist of events, the Italian Glam rock band that won the Eurovision song contest returned son returned home Sunday to the adulation of fans congratulations from the government and so much speculation that the lead singer had snorted cocaine during the show that now he's vowed to take a drug test He said we want to shut down the rumors the rumors spread on social media after he was seen bending over a table during the Saturday night live TV broadcast There's a photo of it a video of it.

It really does look like he's doing cocaine on TV

really does so in order to squash the rumors and not take away from their win he is going to do a drug drug test.

Well, I think, I mean, I saw the picture and Larry was like, you cannot tell me that this man was not doing cocaine.

But if you agree to a drug test and it's not even mandatory, because I think

if, let's say he was tested positive for drugs, I don't think he would get his...

Disqualified.

No, he wouldn't.

So I just think he wants to salvage his reputation, which I understand.

But he doesn't have to submit to this drug test.

So the fact that he is makes me think that he wasn't.

Right, because the picture.

He could just let these rumors fly and it's just like this funny thing.

But the fact that he's going so far out of the way makes me feel like, okay, maybe, maybe not.

And I don't think it would disqualify him any in any way.

This isn't the Kentucky Derby.

Right, no, it's not like a sport.

Yeah.

He's not Medina Sparrett.

Right.

So I don't know.

Um,

like, I think the fact that he is agreeing to do it when literally like nobody's asking him to makes me think he's innocent.

But that picture is very damning.

It is very damning.

But I also feel like I hadn't seen these rumors until he agreed to the drug test.

So I kind of feel like he's giving it more legs.

Yeah.

But also, like, when I was watching him, I literally said to you, I'm like, if this guy wins, he's going to be the biggest douchebag in all of Italy.

Like, he was just like feeling himself.

and like now that he won he like thinks he's so great um

yeah so he's obviously like i just got the vibe that he was like a douche and like really like wants to be famous

so i think so i think like honestly all in all this is just like part of his image now yeah no i'm maybe he's just like riding this wave and like he's like oh okay i'm going viral like let's play this out right that's true also there are a lot of ways to get around drug tests, especially if it's not like mandated by the court.

Like when you have to submit a drug test like to the government, they like watch you pee there's nothing you can do to right no one had home dwayne read one and his sister appears in the copy like yeah there's no one monitoring this specific drug test so like no offense like why would i believe you right and i'm pretty sure like cooking leaves your body in the first day three days and it's been three yeah so if he's like i'll take it tomorrow unless you do it with your hair i think like hair drug tests i don't know i don't know i didn't take it we'll keep we'll keep you posted on the results of this but mostly we just wanted to talk about eurovision because it was just really interesting to watch it was and it was like nice to watch when you have no stake in the game like you're just truly like a an admirer from America but it was really frustrating because we started watching it at three o'clock and it was over at like seven so it was four hours just for us to literally watch a competition that was based on nothing right truly truly based on nothing because if they wanted to like if they wanted someone to win also like you told us the person who wins then Eurovision's hosted in their country next year so maybe like at Eurovision they know where it's gonna be next year and they've got to make that person win somehow.

That I could possibly understand.

But then in that case, they could let like the fan votes sort of sway towards, like, I just wish the judges' votes were based on merit.

It made no fucking sense.

Yeah.

And it was just, I felt like I wasted my whole afternoon.

And I also felt like at first when everyone was voting for really terrible acts, I was like, oh, maybe this is a way for them to have their country win if they vote for someone who's like not really

a good candidate.

But then everyone might have had that same idea and voted for the worst people because the worst people were the winners.

It was so shocking and it really felt like a waste, but I did enjoy like watching like this global moment.

Yeah, me too.

I kind of felt like left out.

And I was thinking like if we were a part of it, like we would kill it in America, you know?

Yeah, and we were also saying that Toast by Claudia Asher is actually like a very Eurovision song.

It really is because all the songs are original and they're all for the most part, except even the people who won it was rock.

Everyone else, it's really like a dance bop, like very, you know, Eric Jane style.

That's literally what Toast is.

So I'm just putting it out there.

Like if somebody wants to license Toast for next year's Eurovision in Italy, like I would be okay with it.

Yeah, I think that's exactly the future of toast.

I think it is too.

Okay, ready for our next story?

Another wonderful performance moment.

Pink.

Pink performed her show-stopping medley of hits at the BBMAs, including an aerial duet with her daughter, Willow.

Okay, this was like really surprising to watch.

It was a family affair to kick off her medley of hits at the 2021 Board of Music Awards.

Pink hit the stage alongside her nine-year-old daughter Willow for an adorable acrobatic performance of their duet, Cover Me in Sunshine.

Then she went on to sing a a medley of her hits.

But when I first saw Pink come onto the stage, I was like, Okay, that's probably her daughter that she's carrying.

But then they started going through the air.

I was like, There's no way that's the daughter.

Yeah.

But it was the daughter.

Yeah, no, I know the daughter because I follow Pink on TikTok.

It's almost like a daughter lookalike.

No, and she's been like promoting this new song, Cover Me and Sunshine, so much.

So Willow's been all over the talk.

Yeah.

And I just have to say, like, adore Pink.

I'm about to praise her.

I absolutely despise that song.

Agreed.

I'm literally Pink's

amongst her biggest fans.

Like, I can't say enough good things.

I don't like that song.

Hate it.

But but not to be negative I thought it was a wonderful performance I think like it really kind of validated what we know about pink but now like maybe the world will see like she's just like a star and she's ready to do the super bowl and that was the that was the message in case the bigwigs at nfl were like is she ready is she not ready last night she said i'm ready and if pink is not doing the super bowl this year this year i don't want to see now she'll do it eventually i'm sure but if it's not this year then i don't want it no i completely agree first of all her vocals are on point her songs are such hits Like you always, like even when her medley, which was kind of small, it was only like three or four songs, like the truckers for Pinka have arrived.

Yeah, and they're not going quietly.

And they're saying Super Bowl this year, not next year.

Yeah, because first of all, she has so many fucking hits that are just mega, meg, like everyone knows them.

Every generation, like kids on TikTok know it, it's from me.

Anthems.

Her performing abilities are unparalleled, like truly.

And she loves a spectacle.

Like every one of her concerts is a mini Super Bowl.

The aerial, the flipping, the harness.

Like that's what a Super Bowl is.

It's a true spectacle.

And that is her specialty.

And I don't know why it's taken this long.

Yeah, I don't know why either, but she is ready.

And Willow's ready too, because I was truly shocked to see that her daughter is an acrobat as well.

Yeah.

Like, that's, I was, like, nervous, but obviously they know what they're doing.

But I was just like, wow.

I was really impressed.

Speechless.

I was speechless.

No, I was really impressed.

It takes a lot to like impress, especially at an award show.

Yeah, like from a kid, you know?

Yeah.

And she had said before when she was interviewed on the red carpet, she was like, the first three minutes of my show are are maybe my favorite performance I've ever done.

And I was like, I feel like celebrities are always saying that to like hype themselves up.

And I can, now I understand.

But let's talk about the BBMAs like a little bit.

Because

I watched up until Pink performed.

Mm-hmm.

And then I was like, goodbye.

It was really boring.

And it's just one of those award shows.

It's like whoever shows up gets the award.

Yes.

And not a lot of people showed up.

Right.

So like, oh, I wonder who's going to win the country award.

Maybe the only person who's here, Gabby Barrett, won both of them.

Like, it was just obvious and like kind of stupid.

And you don't really watch up for the awards because, no offense, they're kind of meaningless.

You watch for the performances.

I saw a bunch.

I thought Jojo Cat was great.

I thought Doja Cat was great.

And Siza, like, they're just like a dynamic duo.

I love Doja Cat.

Happy like in something.

Like, she's just, every song is a hit thanks to TikTok.

Every song is a hit.

And when I was watching the BBM Ains, I was just really thinking, like, and I thought this, I remember thinking this last year too.

Like, I know every single one of these songs only because of TikTok.

Like, I've never heard them on the radio.

I don't listen to them on Spotify, but I know every word because of TikTok.

And it's actually, and Tanya Rad did the

pre-show.

She was like the Juliana.

It was actually crazy.

Like, she did the whole thing and she did amazing.

Like, she spoke to the Jonas Brothers pink, literally everyone.

She did incredibly.

And all the, so much of the interview questions, like, were so naturally about TikTok, especially with Doja Cat.

Like, it's the impact TikTok has on the music industry is truly unparalleled.

Yeah.

But the show was boring, honestly.

Yeah, it was pretty boring.

I was happy to turn it off and get back to my book.

I just want to say, like, I thought AJR was really good.

I have no idea who that is.

Okay, they sing that song, Let's Go Out With the Bang.

That was from the Kardashian commercials.

I don't know it.

You would know it if you heard it, because even Zach knew it, and we're like the oldest people alive.

Yeah, you really are.

So I just want, like, they, I just liked AJR.

I just want to say that.

Now, you're a big AJR girlie.

I'm a big AJR girlie.

And the lead singer, like, had his own thing going on.

Oh, it was him?

No, no, no.

That wasn't.

Was Zach getting changed.

I was supposed to say that wasn't my personal thing.

But he had his own thing.

He was doing his own thing.

I respect people who have their own thing.

And they do their own thing.

Do.

they do dado daryl

day no it was it was an interesting um just sign of the times of like who's around and who's not around and who's showing up and who's not showing up it was nice to see drake oh i didn't i didn't get that there what a handsome man i didn't see him it i thought nick jonas did a good job hosting kept the show moving i know it pains you to say something nice about him but it doesn't like i'm more than happy to say nice things about nick jonas i just like didn't really know what he was doing there you know what i mean yeah he's like too famous for that no i know and i I wondered why he even would do that, especially because like hosting is now like the worst job in the business.

But he didn't even try to be funny.

He was just like, I'm getting you from A to B.

No, and I appreciated it.

But I do think part of the reason, because I agree, I don't know why he would take it.

He's more famous than that.

And he's getting awards, not giving them out.

It was just bizarre.

I do think that he's like very eager to do things separate from his brothers.

Be a Jonas brother, but also be Nick Jonas.

He's in this movie coming up.

He's got the Spaceman.

Like he very much wants to.

Oh, yeah, he has Spacheman.

Yeah, he very much wants to be his own thing in addition to being a Jonas brother.

And I think that this was just one more part of that.

I don't understand the eagerness to like not be a Jonas brother when like the Jonas brothers are the greatest thing that ever happened.

And Kevin Jonas like actually looked really hot last night.

So I think that's why.

Okay, cool.

I agree.

I don't understand the eagerness, but you know what?

Like everybody, you need to fulfill your passions.

That's true.

Otherwise, otherwise you'll resent your brothers.

And we are...

always, always like talking about and pushing our passions forward here at the Morning Toast.

And we should be more supportive of Nick Jonas following his passions.

I'm completely supportive of him.

Oh, I'm not.

Right.

I'm just like being Jonas feather and stop.

Yeah, yeah.

But sometimes that's not enough for someone.

I can't imagine.

Can't relate.

Can't fucking relate, but I guess that's how he feels.

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Okay, next story.

Some fun news.

Kendall Jenner had a star-studded launch party on Friday night for her new liquor brand, 818 Tequila.

Her famous family, including her sisters Kylie, Kim, Chloe, and her mom, Chris, no Courtney, by the way, because she was out supporting Travis, came out for the party at the Nice Guy in West Hollywood and documented the occasion on all their social media channels with some sickening photos.

Other celeb guests included Haley Baldwin, Kate Hudson, and Katie Powery.

That's so weird.

I literally was just like, who's Haley Baldwin?

Her name is Haley Bieber now.

Like, that's how I literally think of it.

Oh, that's so true.

To me, they're interchangeable, but Bieber is taking the lead.

No, but I was like, Ireland Baldwin was there?

Like, I literally did not know who Haley Buber was.

That's so weird.

Wow.

Yes.

So.

There are very few things that like I wake up in the morning and see and like actually I'm furious that I wasn't invited to like not in any world that I would be invited, but like, that looked like the best party.

First of all, it's all about Tequila, so everyone was probably just so drunk.

Kendall really does have like the coolest friends, you know, like Haley.

Like, I love that crew.

And Kylie was there.

She looked amazing.

The stories, like, I watched Kim's stories a hundred times.

Like, it looked so fun.

And I just, like, I woke up like really sad that, like, I'm not a part of that social circle, even though, like, in what world would I be?

But, like, you know me, I'm like delusional.

Like, I was really upset.

Oh, wow.

I was really happy to like see this party.

It just looked

two different girls.

No, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I was like I could not handle being there like you oh I could you would be great I would work like for me I just like I'm just so glad that this is happening like for them I'm so glad that they're like sharing content everyone looks so amazing it did look so fun there were like fun funny videos lots of tick tocks made like great photo moments and they're really doing the most for 818 they're doing as much as they possibly can I know and it's like difficult because I do believe 818 is only currently available in California so I love the press and I love the marketing but like I can't even buy it yeah and it's like at this point I mean I probably won't try because I wouldn't know like what good tequila is versus bad, but like, I'm sure at this point, you're curious.

I'm sure it's fabulous.

Like, I would drink it.

You think so?

Yeah.

The joe, you want to know for sure?

Yeah, no, I'll try it.

Like, if I ever get an opportunity.

Yeah.

Also,

Chris Jenner and Corey Gamble, Chris's outfit was so iconic.

Like, she was wearing the 818 vest.

I don't know if that's going to be merch, but like, it was all just so brilliantly marketed because, like, need that vest so badly.

Yeah, the bucket hat.

Everything.

Chris looked so cool.

Like, she looked cooler than anyone there.

Yeah, no, no, they're doing a really good job of marketing it.

And I'm happy for Kendall because

she's had, like, I feel like, you know, it's always up until now, she's been like the face of another brand or this, or like bombling for.

Or doing collabs with her sisters.

Yeah, she's never...

had her own like big thing like this and and it i think it went really well i saw she bought borrowed kylie's lip kick truck to do the a19 truck which was just like we love to see the support i'm sure the kardashians just own that truck and like they use it for different you need a truck for everything for all your businesses and you know what like i feel like we don't really know that much about candle but what we do know is that like she gets really anxious.

And like so many of her jobs require her to be away from home and to travel a lot.

And like, that's when her anxiety.

Builds up.

And you know, as you get older, you do kind of phase out of modeling.

And so I really feel like this is like a perfect bridge for her into like another phase of her life.

Not that she's old, but you know what I mean?

Yeah, no, you want to be constantly be evolving.

So I think this is like a brilliant marketing move.

I think the branding is very cool.

There is a little bit of controversy.

So I have that also.

There's a Texas company.

Well, there's a lot of controversy about the To Kill Itself.

Of course.

I mean, that commercial was twisted.

Like, whoever literally put her in that outfit and the hair and makeup and then also had her sit in a pickup truck with a broken window with a trash bag over it.

Like it was so offensive and so out of touch.

It was a char chess.

Yes.

Also a Texas tequila company.

It's called Tequila 512.

The CEO Nick posted to Instagram this week highlighting the similarities between his brand and her brand.

One, they're both three number names.

They're made from the same distillery.

They kind of have like a same color scheme.

And then the 512 is distilled three times and 818 is distilled twice.

and 818 costs more than 512 you know you know there's definitely something there to his claims like a hundred percent yeah to me this sounds like um kylie lip kid and colour pop oh my god literally that's a great analogy exact same product but you're paying for the branding same factory yeah same factory everything Huh, good call.

Yeah, I have

the price.

Yeah, yeah, but you're buying like the

name.

The name.

Wow, that's actually a really good call.

It's a perfect analogy.

Thanks.

Well, if Kylie Cosmetics is any indication, then 818 will be very successful.

Okay, but also Kylie Cosmetics right now is not in operation.

I think they're like a lot.

Something big is coming, secret project.

But like, I guess if I, I can't go buy a lipstick right now.

Like, the site is down,

like.

being transformed.

I feel like they might, because I feel like this is kind of dramatic for a total rebrand, like with new logos.

And I do feel like they need a new logo.

It's kind of outdated.

I feel like they're becoming like a clean beauty company.

You think?

Yeah.

Or it's going to be like a hub for all Kylie skin.

She just trademarked Kylie Baby.

Maybe it turns into Kylie Beauty.

And it's like skin, maybe hair, and she just is like...

That's a much better idea than mine.

Oh, thank you so much.

Yeah, that's because like

Kylie Skin, when it came out, I was like, nobody needs this.

But now I'm like, Kylie Skin is everything.

I use the face wash.

And I know like a lot of like dermatologists have said like they don't like some of the fragrances used, but I base my judgment on skincare for like how it works on my skin and not like what someone on TikTok says.

Agreed.

And with that said, I think the best like influencer skincare right now is Covey.

I was talking to Emily Didonato yesterday because you have been, I use the vitamin, they have three products.

Yes, I use the vitamin C serum and you've been like raving about the cleanser, but I have an open cleanser and I don't like to have multiple open products.

Oh, I use a different, I like rotate between three or four cleansers.

But so yesterday,

I finally ran out of my Cerave

drugstore moisturizer and I didn't have, so I went into my cabinet and I got the Covey one.

And I can't believe I let it sit in my cabinet for like a month because it's literally the best moisturizer I've used ever.

It's so fantastic.

Like if you truly use one cleanser, then two vitamin C serum and three, the moisturizer, it's you don't need anything else.

The whole kit is really gets you covered from start to finish.

And Emily Didonato is a toaster.

So like that makes me like the brand like a little bit more.

But it's really, it's a, it's a, I agree.

It's one of the best influencer brands out right now.

I'm almost influencer.

I'm almost out of the cleanser because I also put it in my travel bottle to take with me to like Pritikin and Nashville.

And I'm going to buy more.

Like I love it so much.

Me too.

This is not that.

Just genuine

enjoyment of Cubby.

So, I think you're definitely onto something with Kylie Beauty.

Sounds nice.

Yeah, but I think it's gonna be something big like that.

So, stay tuned.

But

it's been like a while.

The website's been down, like, not just since yesterday, for like weeks.

Yeah.

Yeah, agreed.

So, we'll keep you posted.

Mystery.

But this is a case for the FBI.

Literally.

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Because J-Lo is all smiles with Ben Affleck in Miami.

I'm sorry.

I love these people.

Well, I love J-Lo.

I so don't care.

Like, I'm really, really searching high

and low for a fuck to give.

And I just don't.

Like, okay, cool.

They're back together.

Like, what should I do?

Go throw a parade?

I don't know.

Because up until this point, like, I really thought they were just working on a new business venture or something.

But now these pictures are really pointing in the direction that, you know, Bennefer is reunited better than ever.

The one thing I do like have energy for is the fact that like this is such a slap in the face to A-Rod after he literally slapped her in the face like with the whole Madison LaCroix thing.

So I love that part of it.

And A-Rod is like obviously spiraling.

Like his posts on social media have been so weird.

And also, did you see he started a makeup company for men?

It's called like his and hers.

I did see because I saw that picture that was like going viral.

Which I actually think is not a bad idea.

There is some guy on TikTok.

I've like seen he's like a small business who like makes concealer for men and like he's literally just got put out of business.

But I thought some of the promotional

imagery was very provocative and very weird.

I just saw this like picture of A-Rod putting on concealer, and it was just kind of disarming.

And he looked very bizarre.

And I can't stress, I actually think it's a great idea.

I think Ben sometimes needs concealer.

He has such puffy under eyes.

Like, I think it's a good idea, but like, just something about seeing this picture really, like, just threw me through a loop or whatever the fucking phrase is.

Flew me through a loop.

No, and it's like the picture is kind of jarring, but then also, like, everyone's talking about this picture.

It's actually pretty good in marketing for his brand.

He just looks like, I don't know.

He just looks weird, like, sitting at his vanity, like putting on a concealer.

And not to be mean, like, I really do believe, first of all, there is a space for like, you know, men, women, you know, makeup.

Because they need it.

Like, I see sometimes people out in the street with pinballs.

I'm like, girl, like, I would never leave my house like that.

Like, neither should you.

Like, men need makeup.

Why is it okay for you?

Yeah, they need to start putting forth some more effort.

Like, I agree with the mission behind the company.

I just can't explain, like, why something about the photo just like tickled me in the wrong way.

I agree.

I do agree.

And I just like, I actually went from like being obsessed with A-Rod to like wanting to see him hurt.

Like I'm so mad at him for what he did to J-Lo.

Yeah.

And I know that this Benifer thing is definitely bothering him because like people are obsessed with Bennefer in the way that they used to be obsessed with A-Lo.

And I know he's jealous.

Like I know he is and that makes me happy because I'm so team Jennifer.

And it's like they were so obsessed with A-Lo J-Rod for so long.

long that you didn't think that her next relationship could be bigger and better but it's actually like so much bigger so much better and they have an even better couple name, like Bennifer.

It's iconic.

Yeah, no, and it like harks back to, and it's just everything.

And so, yes, while I agree, like, just Ben and Jennifer, like, whatever, whatever, but when you add A-Rod to the mix, I'm like, yeah, so beyond J-Lo.

Like, think of how embarrassing it must have been for J-Lo to not only be caught up in some scandal with her fiancé, but when that fiancé is talking to like a 25-year-old reality star, like, that's just, I love Madison LaCroix, but it's beneath J-Lo.

Yeah.

And so, like, whatever A-Rod is feeling right now, like, he is so deserving of.

Yes, I agree.

I'm very upset with him.

I agree.

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Okay, Fifth and Battle Story is a little tech news.

Little tech news?

Snap, I don't know if you remember them, Snapchat.

A while back, yeah.

Will be buying an AR company, Wave Optics, for over $500 million.

They're making a big push into augmented reality technology.

Really quickly, this reminds me I want to talk talk about the WeWork documentary after this because I watched it.

Okay, great.

Snapping said Friday it will acquire Wave Optics, a British augmented reality company, for over $500 million.

The deal, first reported by The Verge and confirmed by a spokesperson, will help the owner of photo messaging app Snapchat push its way into a future where AR eyewear could be ubiquitous.

They really believe that AR is the future and they're trying to push it on everyone.

I thought that that's what the snap spectacles were.

Yeah, I just feel like they've been talking about like AR and VR forever and like it really never like took off.

I agree.

I agree.

Like, of course, and people, nobody, I don't know anybody who has VR goggles or AR.

Are they the same thing?

Augmented reality, virtual reality.

Whatever.

No, not that.

I just know people like who have done it like experimentally, like in their houses.

Like nobody owns VR and like hangs out in their VR glasses.

Yeah.

I just think this whole augmented virtual reality was like a trend a few years ago and it really never took off.

And I just feel like maybe it's time to let sleeping dogs lie.

Yes, but then I was actually in a conversation last week about NFTs and I was learning.

I'm not in the world at all, but I think like with the rise of NFTs, they're also like AR, VR.

There's like other worlds that people will be living in.

Got it.

And spending time in and buying.

She's getting an emotional subject.

And buying like things in other worlds.

I mean, the world.

And other realities.

Other reality thing just reminds me of that Black Mirror episode with Landry from Friday Night Lights, where he ends up like kidnapping people from his office and putting them in that virtual like spaceship and then they find a way to kill him.

Yeah.

And he like dies in the video game.

Oh yeah, yeah, no.

It reminds me of the Black Mirror.

IR VR reminds me of the Black Mirror episode where those two friends keep playing this video game where I have not seen it.

Oh my gosh.

Okay, so there's two friends, they both put on their VR goggles and get into a video game where they each pick a character that's not like them at all.

And in the video game, they're playing against each other all the time and they spend there just fucking the whole time.

Like

two.

I did not think that's like you were gonna say two video game characters, like, are in love with each other.

Like, they, both these guys are like friends, like buddies from college, and they'll log on.

Why are they like straight at that?

They're straight guys, I think, like, they're married, and like, they would log on at night and, like, go fuck their buddy's video game character.

They were like in love in the VR.

And then, in real life, like, they would never, they weren't into each other in real life, but they had this, like, whole other life in the video game.

And they had to like come to terms with it.

And I think the way that it ended was like, oh, sorry, spoiler.

um because the wife like found out what was going on and the way that ended is like i think like once a year they got to like play their video game and like stop them crying and like like see their long-lost lover that's like broke back mountain like they used to only be able to see each other once a year also um i just can't i like refuse to support black mirror as an institution after they they literally destroyed me when they made me watch that prime minister fuck a pig

Stop because his daughter or the princess's daughter was kidnapped and the second he started fucking the pig to completion which of course he couldn't do so he had to go for like two hours and then they let the princess go i that was the the last episode of black mirror i ever watched and every couple months i think about it and it's so upsetting like it was the worst thing i ever in my whole life and i've seen some fucked it is the worst thing i've ever seen in my life like it brings me a i have trauma like real PTSD trauma from it.

Yeah, I totally agree.

That was so unnecessary.

Wait, nobody asked for that.

Like so fucking unnecessary.

Yeah.

And like the moral of the story is like because everyone was like, like they let her out like the minute, like right before the broadcast started.

So if not, everyone was like fixed on their TV screens, they would have known.

Yeah.

She was like running through the show.

She was sick.

Sick.

Sick.

Oh my God.

I honestly, I don't know if I can go on with the show.

Like once it gets in my head, I'm like so mad that we're talking about it because you don't understand how this literally haunts me.

Haunts.

But can we go talk about the WeWork documentary?

I watched it on Friday night because you told me about it.

And me and Ben were like, I had a lot of thoughts on it.

I had a lot of different feelings about it.

That's why I'm glad we're talking.

I don't know if I said all my feelings on the show because on the one hand, I was like, this is.

Dramatic much.

Yeah, dramatic much.

On the other hand, like, this guy was definitely, Adam was just like

a freak.

But that's not a crime.

No, I just think the whole documentary was so dramatic.

And I was like waiting for him.

I'm like, okay, when does he start killing everyone?

I'm like, they just made it seem like he was such a bad guy.

And he was a freak.

And him and his wife, the only thing they were really guilty of was doing too much too fast like and if we work had just stayed being wework and they didn't try to have the schools and the living facilities like that was fucking weird yeah but like people lived there and they loved it Those people were so the happiest they'd ever been in their lives.

So I thought they, I think, like that's what I was, I think I said on the show, like they were really doing that shit.

Like they were talking like even the camp, like they put it on.

Like it's literally Fire Festival, but they made it happen.

No, it's not Fire Festival.

No, I'm sorry.

It's what Fire Festival like should have, like the infrastructure.

Like they made these things happen.

And we were watching it.

I'm like, wow, wow, can't relate to being that big of a loser to like ever going to a WeWork summer camp.

But these people are having the time of their lives and like no one's getting hurt.

So I just didn't understand why the documentary was hell-bent on villainizing this guy, Adam, when his really only mistake was mismanaging his money and his business and thinking that he was like godlike.

And they were trying to paint him like a Keith Ranieri.

So I'm like, okay, when does the branding start?

But there was no branding.

Like I feel like he was a freak and it.

Definitely sucked that like all those people got laid off and he walked away with $1 billion and is still waiting for another $500 million from SoftBank to this day.

Definitely unfair.

Yeah.

Again, that's just how these tech things work.

People step down as CEO companies and get hundreds of millions of dollars.

Like that's just the world we live in.

And at the end, when that girl was like, I lost my purpose and like

it was so unbelievably dramatic, I was like, girl, it's just a job.

Like it was just, I was not feeling sympathy for these people at all when like I should have been, I guess.

I agree.

I just thought they really like were trying really hard to find an angle on this story.

When it is actually actually really interesting how you go to market at 47 billion and no one buys your shares and you end up at 10 billion.

And there was an interesting story there to how they were like, you know, considering their numbers.

Like they weren't, I don't think they were, they were being like just

deceptive in like how they crunch their numbers.

And I think that's an interesting story like for like a financial documentary.

But my God, were they being such drama queens?

And honestly, that guy, the bald guy who works for NYU Stern, he was so funny.

When they were saying like in their mission statement, like we are a collective of creative.

And and the guy was like you literally lease desks like you know it's it's office space it's and how much they didn't want to be a real estate company when literally they're a real estate company obviously Adam never watched the founder because if he had then he would have known like the value would have been in buying all this real estate and then he wouldn't have been a burger company he would have been a real estate company yes but and that's why I always assumed they owned all the buildings that they had office spaces in and it made sense when they didn't because you he didn't start with a lot of money and that's why he could just lease these random floors for like certain amounts of money per month in order to buy buildings in the city.

And that's what they were saying.

It is generational wealth.

Like, you have to be so wealthy to just like pick up a building or own a floor.

Like, and that's, I was like, how did he get started?

And also, what about the other founder who literally didn't say one?

He wasn't even in the documentary.

Yeah.

It was like, I don't know.

I just felt like they had it out for this guy, Adam.

And I can't stress, like, if I met Adam, I would despise him.

No, and like everything about the we men, like, oh, we grow, we live.

It was so late.

No, and it's like all this like jargon buzzwords that like mean absolutely nothing.

Like, I have no time for.

Yeah.

But I agree with you.

They really were trying to like shoehorn this narrative where it's like, it's,

we all were,

we all like really were kind of pathetic.

Yeah, no, and honestly, like, I feel like the documentary intended to make Adam look bad, but it ended up making a lot of the people who worked for WeWork look like some of the biggest losers I've ever met in my life.

Sorry.

I agree.

No, the documentary was giving me Nexium vibes because I all I was thinking was like how everyone in Nexium was a huge fucking loser.

Yeah.

And it wasn't even like a cool celebrity cult.

It was like your most famous person is a girl from Smallville.

Smallville, like get better celebrities.

Like, and that's how I felt about this documentary.

I'm like, where's the drama?

Like, what's the tea?

Like, I know, but you know what the tea was a little bit?

Like, Ashton Kutcher.

Oh, going all in.

Thank you so much for bringing that up because the next day, me and Ben watched it on Friday night and we're walking to lunch and we're still talking about it.

And I'm like, honestly, I feel like they tried to paint Adam Newman to like look like a loser.

When at the end of the day, the documentary was worse for nobody than it was for Ashton Kutcher.

Like going on this PR like

loserdom tour, I was like, honestly, aren't you embarrassed to be associated?

Also, it wasn't great for Gwyneth Paltrow.

Rebecca, Adam's wife, is her cousin.

And so she was like this freaky diggy like hippie.

Like we grow, we live, all these things.

She's like, we're not going to be done until we change the consciousness of the world.

And so she did like a goop like.

panel or something.

So like Gwyneth was in the documentary.

It wasn't great for Gwyneth, but it was really, honestly, embarrassing for Ashen Kutcher.

Like he should never leave his house again.

But he will.

Yeah.

You know that he will.

Yeah, I agree.

I had mixed feelings about it.

And it just wasn't so.

Like, why was everyone so hyped up about a like outreach office space concept?

No.

Like, why was it even 47 million?

Like, that's the marketing.

That's on Silicon Valley.

No, but that's the marketing.

That was like Adam's.

That's what he brought to the table.

It really was like people wanted to live there.

Like, it was this like cult-like community, but they weren't hurting anyone so it's not a cult yeah and i'm sorry like if you agree to live in a we live like that's on you we're all grown adults like it was really weird yeah when when he was like i would have friends come over and they would never come back like obviously like what are you doing it was so bizarre i completely agree so i said what i said and i thought it was really fucking weird and i thought the documentary was just trying to make a mountain out of a molehill and maybe we're just conditioned to watch documentaries where things are so

our minds to be blown but like sometimes yeah yeah, I guess it is interesting.

We used to see the headlines about WeWork.

I think we reported on some of it.

I don't think we ingested anything that actually happened because this was all news to me.

So yes, it is nice to know what happened, but I agree.

Maybe we're just conditioned to like expect the craziest shit from documentaries and there wasn't anything that crazy.

It was a big, fat, fucking nothing burger.

Nothing burger with a little loser sauce.

You know, a little.

A lot.

So yeah, I would recommend it though, honestly, like the documentary, because like it was interesting.

Like there were interesting parts of it.

And I think for me, what was interesting is like with all this like tech companies and stuff and these valuations, they really don't ever make sense to me.

And like I couldn't wrap my head around how a company like WeWork that actually was really successful and like people were in the door and people were signing out of the business.

It's a great idea.

And they couldn't get enough space.

Like, you know, how like...

200 locations.

Right.

How that

becomes not profitable.

Right.

Well, that's the whole thing.

Like, Uber doesn't make any money.

That is something I'll never understand.

But now they're under new management.

We work is still in business.

I feel like they didn't make that clear enough.

I'm like, so is this company out of order?

Right, but I also had the thought.

I don't know if I said this on the show already.

If they could have like chugged along a little longer till COVID and then everything hit the fan, they could have made it seem like COVID was the reason.

Yes, but I was thinking that during the documentary, too.

I'm like, well, this company was going under regardless because working from home, like your whole business is out.

Your whole business is out.

No one's going into the office, let alone with a million strangers in a commune.

Right.

And I keep literally.

And by the way, even if COVID hadn't taken them down, the culture now around working is so different that honestly, the concept of shared workspace is a little outdated.

Now we're all working remotely.

We're not rubbing up against strangers.

Like, they wouldn't have survived.

And on a knee basis, who we're going to be next.

It's the antithesis of a post-pandemic world.

But I think that if they could have gotten to March 2020.

They could have blamed it on that.

They could have blamed it on that.

Like so many companies will do and have done.

Becca Cosmetics, first to go.

Okay, so let's cut the chit chat and get on to our interview.

Yes.

So if you're watching on YouTube, there's another video just next on our channel.

It is the bold type.

We've got Kat Jane Sutton.

The girls are back together.

And it was really, really awesome to talk to them.

And if you're listening as a podcast, just keep listening.

And thank you guys for listening to the show.

We'll see you tomorrow.

Enjoy.

Bye.

Bye.

Welcome back to the morning toast.

Jackie and I are...

humbled, honored, and just like so excited for our guests.

We have all three castmates.

We've got Aisha, we've got Katie, we've got Megan from the Bold Type, you guys.

Thank you so much for being here.

We've been talking about your show for the last two weeks on the podcast.

We are obsessed.

And now you're here.

Final season's premiering in two days.

Like, we're devastated.

Yeah.

Yeah, baby.

People are pretty sad about it.

Well, that leads me to my first question.

Why?

Well,

free form.

Question.

What do you do giving canceled?

No?

No.

We weren't.

We weren't.

That's the thing is, like, I think that it's really cool that, like, I've been on a show where we have been canceled before it's the time, and we don't get to get the chance to wrap it up.

And so, I think I speak on behalf of the three of us when I say, like, we are very grateful to Freeform for giving us a season, letting us know it's the last one, letting the writers know it's the last one so that they could like really wrap up the stories and like give these characters and us the goodbyes that we wanted and deserve.

Five seasons is like so cool.

No, it's amazing.

And to be able to end on your own terms is always ideal, you know.

But I think for some of us, it's just like upsetting because, like, we have found comfort in the show and in the development of your characters, but also the characters around you, like Jacqueline and Oliver.

And I just like, I don't know what I'm going to do without my gals.

Well, you could re-watch the show.

I already did.

Have you guys finished filming the final season yet?

Yeah.

So how do you feel about the way it ends for your characters?

Like, do you feel, do you feel good about it?

I definitely do.

I think people are going to be happy.

We better.

We knew.

We knew.

We better.

I'll be so upset.

Seriously, unforgivable if we don't see a Sutton and Richard.

Like, I get that you had to play with us in season four, but like, obviously you guys are OTP.

And if that doesn't work out, like, just know, like, I I will be upset Wait, what's OTP?

I don't know what that is one true pairing one true pairing I learned this recently.

Oh cool

And that's like what you guys are so I'm glad to hear that from you Yeah, I'm glad we got a nod from you.

Yeah, what about you Aisha?

How are we feeling where Kat ends up?

I was actually very surprised

I was not expecting it and it really happens so fast.

I was like what

Okay, that's good to know.

I mean I feel like the show is successful for so many reasons, but for us like I feel two really strong ways about the show.

One, I think you guys incorporate social media and just like influencers in a really natural way where sometimes like you hear like TV shows like Emily and Paris like talking about influencers and it's like so cringy.

You can die.

So I feel like it actually makes us feel seen.

Like oh my god, you guys actually like that is how it actually is as an influencer.

And I think you guys really handle like controversial topics in really approachable ways.

Like one of our favorite episodes was Betsy the Gun.

Like it was so funny, but it was also like

it was valuable it was valuable yeah and like when you guys are filming those episodes like do you guys know like that it's gonna be it's like so funny but it's also very accessible talking about like hard things

I think that we've always

you know there are some times where we do something that's a controversial topic and we're like I hope that this it goes over the way it's intended but I think we have always been able to show the gray area to these topics to be like oh you can actually sit and disagree about something and be able to have a conversation about it and you know come out the other side maybe with with more knowledge and feel more educated about where somebody's coming from and you know I think that that's important in this day and age where like so many people just want to live in an echo chamber and don't want to challenge themselves to like think about how other people feel or might feel differently.

So I feel like we've always handled that and we have always gotten messages from fans being like, We paused the show and like me and my friends talked about it.

And I think that that's like so cool to have that effect.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's super valuable.

And also, like, another element that I just feel like really elevates the show is the wardrobe.

And Jackie actually pointed something out to me that I thought was so interesting that, like, some of your characters have worn the same thing more than once, which is like how actual girls who work in a magazine live and just like normal people.

And so, first of all, I love that.

And second of all, do you get to keep any of your clothes?

Cause like they're all so stunning.

We were able to buy some of them this final season.

And we did that half off.

Which, by the way,

most of the stuff that we wear is like still a pretty penny.

Like it's not.

But that was like one of the cool things about it.

It's like some of the stuff that I took home, like I would never buy for myself.

So it just felt like a good opportunity.

You know, they like tailor everything to our bodies and stuff so why not that's true and so where do you guys film Montreal

Even the New York City outdoor scenes

what yeah so like even even the city

outdoor scenes the outdoor scenes I mean in season one we did get to go to New York and like film for a couple days but apart from that like there's a park in Montreal that like we cheat as Central Park and that is so interesting oh my god I thought this whole time that you guys filmed in New York and we're in New York and we had no clue.

Right.

I can tell because of the scaffolding and I really miss it.

Construction.

Literally, they've been putting up this scaffolding in front of our like beautiful, excuse me, our beautiful window.

And it's like, hello.

And there's like construction.

Usually during our show, you'll see like a bunch of hot construction guys just like working on it.

In the back of our show.

In the back of our show.

Yes.

Dog.

Oh, this is Theo.

He's a huge fan.

He watched the whole series with me a couple weeks ago and he had some thoughts, but overall, he's really pulling for Sutton and Richard.

So hopefully you can make that work for him.

For Theo?

Yes.

Theo?

Okay.

Yeah.

I'll put them all in on Theo's behalf.

So the new season premieres in two days.

How are we feeling?

Are we?

We're obviously sad.

We're, you know, bittersweet, but how are you guys feeling about the final season?

I'm excited.

I think it's great.

I think people are going to like it.

And

we're all ready to kind of like give it to the world and then sort of move forward down the road.

Yeah.

Did you guys film this season during COVID?

Did that change how you were able to do some of the stuff?

Oh, yeah.

What were like the protocols?

Take it away, Age.

Oh.

All right.

Well,

yeah, it changed it a lot.

But, you know, what's nice about it was

we knew what everyone's face looked like, you know, from their nostrils down because we've been really blessed to have a lot of the same crew for all five seasons so i think it would have been a lot harder if we didn't know everyone already and have like cultivated relationships with them so we all kind of helped each other through it but yeah it was really hard like you know that's part of the reason why i love my job is that i get to feel like i'm in the circus and like

hug people and

so that that was really difficult but you know we got through it and i'm so like i mean i speak for all of us but i feel like we're also grateful that we got to do it because, you know, these are like interesting times.

So we're very blessed.

Well, we're grateful that you got to do it because we're so excited.

The new season premieres on free form on the 26th of May.

So we will be watching.

Thank you guys so much for being here.

We are obsessed.

Like, thank you for the work that you do for the culture, for the community.

Like, we love you.

Thank you guys.

And thank you guys for listening.

We will see you tomorrow.

We love you.

Thank you so much.