S4 Ep79: Throupling with Brian Kelly, The Points Guy: Friday April 30, 2021
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Good morning, millennials.
Welcome back to the morning toast.
Happy Friday, Friday.
I'm so honored, humbled, and excited to be sitting down with one of my best friends, Celine Dion's number one fan, the best dog dad in the world, and world-renowned travel expert, Brian Kelly, the points guy.
Hello, Brian.
Thanks for having me.
You can also add world-class equestrian.
Yes, you are just so dynamic.
Like, your resume keeps building.
And, like, you are, you were just, you're the person who did quarantine right.
Like, you know, you guys.
I taught myself how to like ride horses.
And now I actually in the car right here was like, should I get a grand piano for that end room in my house so that we can just tickle the ivories?
Well, that end room is like such an elegant room that nobody sits in because it's extraordinary.
I think I need to get a grand piano.
I think that's a good idea.
Janet can be in her gowns draped over.
Well, let's talk about it.
Let's talk about the elephant in the room.
Janet is not here.
For those who follow Brian on Instagram, know that your best friend, John.
Pasta Fazulo.
Pasta Fazulo also has, you know, an alter ego, Janet.
He does drag sometimes.
He's a chef.
He's really everything of of the sort and he's kind of eclipsing you like you've really made him like a star of your instagram stories yeah so people always just say oh your friendship is so sweet and he's so nice i mean he's lost weight he shares like his cooking's amazing so we were in miami at the end of march and people were coming up to him on the street and they would be like yeah like i don't really care about you i'm not like so john and i love it i love john should be a star agreed you know he's ready to burst yeah and i'm like you know being the dean of lohan like get out yes you are stage moms like you are one of those moms from toddlers and tar Absolutely.
But I'm concerned now because I'm also a star.
And he's eclipsing me.
And all the toasters today were like,
we're so excited to have John on the toast.
And I saw you driving into the city with John in the car, and I thought it was, like, a surprise for me that John was going to be here.
But he's not here.
Yeah.
Well,
it's been too long since I've been in the studio.
I know.
Next time, I think you should just have John on the toast.
Just so people can get to know him where he's hysterical.
He's the best friend.
He's the type of friend we never fight.
Yeah.
We always cry.
I've thrown my back out crying, laughing with him, and we have so many like silly little jokes.
But if we're being honest, there's only room for two stars in the show.
There are, and you know, from the first time I came on the morning breath when I bought you that gift of Theo on the suitcase, that was the best gift ever.
Have you ever taken it on a trip?
100%.
People literally saw me in the airport.
Well, today I want to be a part of this new viral series.
I don't know if you guys know.
I'm literally breaking the internet with my coffee series.
So I got you a
drink.
I want you to try it.
Oh, you're not going to tell me.
Savor it.
No, don't let let me.
Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
Try it.
I'm going to try it.
I see carrots.
I went to the bathroom when I got here.
I guarantee she.
I didn't.
I swear.
It smells good.
But, you know, what I've learned through this whole journey is just because it smells good doesn't mean it tastes good.
Brian.
Ew.
Did you purposely make this taste like dude?
Well, so on behalf of all the Irish toasters, so Brian Kelly, my Irish heritage, that is the Irish Cream Cold Brew.
Great.
So I just offended the Irish toasters.
Exactly.
Irish toasters.
Rise up.
You set me up.
I did.
I thought about it.
This is dead ass disgusting.
Like, it's really nice.
It's nice.
It's kind of like a French vanilla.
Okay, wait.
Give it another go.
It's like so disgusting.
I can't believe you would feed this to me.
But I think it's really interesting that you brought that up because part of my whole journey into starting to drink coffee has to do with you.
Because when you go to Brian's house in Pennsylvania, your fridge is always fully stocked.
You also have, if you guys ever saw Extreme Couponers, you know how people downstairs, they have like their stock room.
You have a stock room.
Like you are fully like a horse.
But it's like full price Casamigos.
And it's elegant as fuck.
Like some of these, these rooms on Extreme Couponers are so disgusting.
You would die.
No, like yours is very elegant.
And your room, your fridge is always stocked.
And I'm always trying new things at your house.
Janet cooks for us.
And I drank a coffee one morning.
I was just like hungover and I'm like, I don't know what I need right now, but I think it's a coffee.
And I never drank coffee.
And it was so delicious.
Yeah, the Starbucks cold brew with some almond milk.
I had half and half, obviously.
But it was so good.
I'm like, I think I need to do this more often.
And I keep trying to replicate that feeling.
That's the story of our friendship.
I mean, being
the BVIs,
I couldn't believe Claudia snorkeled for the first time.
I had never seen you.
You were always teaching me new things.
It's such a pleasure to travel with you, but to also be your friend because you're so like cosmopolitan and you're so well traveled and you're just like a man of many, you've lived so many lives.
And it's been
that the truth.
And so it's been a journey to just like be a part of your journey.
And we snorkeled.
We had the best time.
It was so, so much fun.
I thought it was like crazy.
Like, oh my God, like the craziest thing.
And Brian, like the day before, I had went like deep sea diving, like with an actual whale.
And the only whale we saw that day was me.
And the number one question Claudia had while we were snorkeling.
Do you think Megan Markle has snorkeled?
It's a good question.
Of course.
Who hasn't?
I would say 95% of people in the world have snorkeled.
I don't think that's true.
You're a well-traveled girly.
I was a little surprised.
No, I know, but like, I'm very much like a park your ass on the beach during a vacation girly, not you.
Like, I never sat in my hotel room the whole time we were out.
We were doing this.
We were going bar.
We go to this bar.
We're taking a boat.
We're on like beach drop.
We actually had a, we had a, a, we didn't put it on Instagram because it was too much.
We still haven't actually processed it together.
We had a cartagena moment on the boat coming home from the Saggy Dollar and the BVIs.
Amazing bar.
Amazing.
It took about an hour to get there.
And it was nice and kind of five minutes.
Like it was super fast on the road.
For some reason going home, we took the wrong way around the island.
It took two and a half hours.
The rain was pouring in the pitch black.
We all had to pee.
It was a trying experience.
We all had to pee.
So literally, we stopped the boat.
We actually had to stop the boat.
We all were just.
It was actually so unfair.
Like Like, the boys literally just peed off the side of the boat, but like, all of us were like hanging off of this ladder.
The girls, you didn't get into the water though, did you?
No, I literally had to pull down my pants and like hang over a ladder.
It was the hardest yoga.
You got to get on your leg.
No, it was the hardest yoga I've ever done, though.
Like, I was not in shape for it.
Erica, who we were with, like, is an amazing, like, she's like one of the founding boxers at Rumble.
She's in amazing shape.
For her, it was nothing, like, this position.
For me, I think I threw my back out.
Um, so we have a great show for you guys.
Brian is here.
We're obviously, we have a bunch of stories that are a little different because I want to talk to you about some of the
happening-ons in the travel industry, but then also you're a housewife connoisseur encyclopedia and there's a lot going on in the world of housewives.
Like they're in Turks and Keikos right now.
We are going to get into it.
And then at the end of the show,
just because you're such a hard man to find, like we have you here.
We have to ask you like a million questions about travel, about points.
The toasters have so many questions for you.
So if it's, oh, if it's all right.
Can we dive into the Fast Five Stories?
Let's do it.
Do we have your permission?
Without further ado, it is time for the Fast Five Stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast
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All right, let's dive in because the housewife's world is quaking.
I'm sure you know all of the all-stars are in Turks and Caicos.
Now, do we think Kim Richards is going to show up as like Brandi Glanville said that she has not heard or spoken to Kim Richards since December, since New Year's Eve.
So
I know.
That's not a good idea.
That's very worrisome.
But Kyle did go alone.
She was like, Kyle looks amazing.
That's what I think.
Is that some crafty face tuning?
No.
Well, they all, the housewives.
Physical face tuning, like surgery face-to-face.
Yeah, you're right.
The housewives are literally queens of like normalizing, insane face tunes.
Let's just talk about Teresa Judici.
I just saw a photo of her.
It's almost unrecognizable.
She
does edit her picture so much, which is so crazy because in person, like she's stunning and like snatched.
Remember, she was a bodybuilder.
And she, by the way, she is on this trip.
All the all-stars have jetted off.
They are getting ready for a wild ride.
What are they, like, I just don't understand.
They're going to get four episodes out of of this.
It's the peacock.
And people are skeptical.
I would love to hear your thoughts on this.
Can Candy say that once they start doing all-stars, it's all over?
Yep.
But here's who's on it.
And I would love to hear who your dream cats would have been.
Because we have
Melissa and Teresa from Jersey, Ramona and Luann from New York, Kenya and Cynthia from Atlanta.
Kyle Richards from Beverly Hill.
So we have no Dallas, no Potomac, no Salt Lake City.
And it's mostly like OGs.
If not, Kenya's not.
But I think they made a huge mistake.
I I think that's such a snooze cast.
Like, you got to bring in fan favorites.
I mean, starting with Karen Huger.
Karen Huger and the Turks and Keikos.
I mean, you don't even, she could be the only cast.
I am obsessed.
That's one of the few housewives who I love who I haven't met.
So just manifesting into the universe at Karen Huger, we have a lot of people.
We have DM'd before, and I did, as you know, buy her perfume.
You are the number one wholesale representative for LaDonnell.
You loved me.
And I've loved Karen Huger from day one.
I'm not one of these new.
I did not.
And you were like, Claudia, you're so wrong.
You're so wrong.
And I'm like, no, I don't see what you see.
But in the last two seasons, I have done a complete 180.
You were 100% right.
Yeah.
So, yes.
I mean, I would also pull Phaedra, Dorinda, and Nini.
Like, that's a cast.
That's a cast.
The hard thing about all these.
I actually think we should have like the fired slash, yeah, the fired housewives island.
That would be like a whole separate spin-off.
Like Carlton Jebya, Joyce, Gerard.
No, now you're going a little too far with Joyce.
Yes, I agree.
I agree.
Yeah.
But the thing is with like all these housewives, it's like these ones specifically who actually got cast are so, like, you know, Ramona.
Like, they think their shit doesn't stink.
I can't imagine Kenya and some of these women wanting to hang out with Ramona.
Yeah.
She's not a girl, a woman who's crazy.
Kenya is also, who wants to hang out with Kenya?
Not me.
I actually kind of like her this season.
I do not like her.
Because Drew is just so moronic.
I'm sorry that I like her as a person, but the final storyline about the prophet is probably one of the worst, most scripted, cringe-worthy.
And you're going to hinge the season finale on a prophet texting a friend of i that's all we got atlanta that is so true
and drew is like being like taking it really personally but i cannot stand kenya like nothing she could ever do would make me laugh this season of housewives like season as in so jersey's pretty good i like jersey but like atlanta and dallas is so like those two are ooh they need some reboots dallas
but jersey is maybe the best season in a literally this season of dallas was watching brandy redmond embrace her inner karen yeah that's a journey I didn't want to go on.
No, and they do have really good gems on Dallas that don't get enough shine.
Like Stephanie Holman is
stellar.
Cameron Westcott is stellar.
Cameron has grown on me so much.
Me too.
And Deandra.
Like, she's a queen.
I love Deandra.
Honestly, I could...
Tiffany Moon actually brings a lot to the show.
She does.
Her house is sickening.
Like, if nothing else, she brings her a lot.
And her husband must, because that's not a doctor's house.
Like, that is some.
She's an anesthesiologist.
I think he's a tech entrepreneur or something.
I think he is too, because they have that, like, winery of three moons for fun.
But I, I don't know.
I like Tiffany Moon, but she has thrown her mother under the bus, hit it in reverse, hit it back in, and the poor mother is just like, I worked hard to put you, you know, and it's, I get the pain or whatever, but
as a storyline, I'm like, okay, stop reversing over your mom.
She's so sweet and she wants to.
I couldn't agree more.
Me, and I had lunch with Taylor Strecher yesterday.
We were just talking about house size, and she said, wow, she really threw her mom under the bus.
I'm like, I literally have the same thing.
It's a crazy thing to go on a show in your first storyline.
Like, you're literally just going to throw your mom under the bus who came to this country and probably suffered so much to give you a better life like i totally agree what is your take on the atlanta so when drew had that awkward conversation with her young son with the camera crew with his father like look i get you sign up to a show and you want to show your all but i kind of was team kenya there where it's like oh god we were all like it's already a difficult conversation you can put boundaries i think any good housewife should put boundaries or when it comes to kids it's like how dare you talk about my kid and then they're putting their kids front and center for people to talk about but how dare they and then it like then the kid automatically becomes fodder for like social media and that's not fair totally and that poor kid he's so cute and he's just like saying it over and over and over and mommy wants a different response for the producer who was clearly you know it's it was painful painful i'm fully in agreement if you don't have enough material in your life and you have to use your kids on housewise yeah it's not maybe it's not the show this might not be for you no and it's crazy because like children are such like a lightning rod in certain franchises like jersey we're going through this thing right now and it's
in the morning, thinking about so many things.
Can you believe how viral that went?
Oh, because we, six years ago, when it came out, we would always joke about that.
We've been knowing about it.
Like, the world's going to be.
And then we also love when Gia was coming home from camp.
It's torture.
It's torture.
We need to, like, that will become the next TikTok viral.
Jersey will one, then you a two, then you a three.
Iconic lyrics from the lyricist.
You should maybe do an album of covers of Housewives moments.
Not Housewives' songs.
No, housewives moments put a little vibrato in yes i love that do melania's song too i mean that song was good yeah come on stephanie like and that music video that music video where gia judice buys them and teresa buys them that board game that they all like jump into iconic that was actually a really high quality music video
so i i definitely we're obviously gonna watch this yeah because what else do we have to do but but i'm nervous i'm nervous too because these women are so into themselves because they're they all think they're the star of their franchise.
And the fact that they got selected for this all-stars makes them even more stressful.
Can we talk about Luanne holding the center apple?
What?
Shocking.
Well, that's actually a great segue into the next story because Sonia Morgan is calling BS on Luann Deleceps' claim about her shocking new neighbor.
So Luann Dele Seps may have bought a new apartment, but her co-star Sonia Morgan isn't buying her bullshit about her new neighbor.
In a trailer for the new season, Dele Seps claims to have been shocked when she moved into her new home, only to discover that she had a direct view of her her ex-husband Tom D'Agostino's terrace.
During a panel at the Paley Center for Media and Association with the New York Post, Sonia Morgan said, I'm going to call BS on that one because I live two blocks from Tom and I knew very well when we were friends.
And when she looked at an apartment a block from my place, she knew where Tom lived.
So here begs the question.
How would she be shocked?
Do you think she knew?
Well, I don't understand.
She knows where she used to live.
Right.
And she knows.
where she just bought a new place.
In New York City, it's pretty simple.
You know which streets align to what.
So that's no, no, I'm going to call it my favorite term these days is calling it moronic.
Yes, you've said that already.
And I've, by the way, every time I hang out with you.
Moronic misbehavior, that's what I call people's.
Every time I hang out with you, I start to talk like literally all I say now is things are twisted.
Unique.
That's my other word.
When something is like, you just say, oh, that's unique.
Yes.
That's impossible.
Unique.
So honestly, hang out.
After people listen to this episode, they're going to start talking like you because every time I spend the weekend with you, I come back and I talk completely different.
I also am very influenced by the Rupulse drag rates of it all, which we also need to talk about, like the finale, your thoughts.
So I was Team Simone all the way.
I kind of, I mean, I just love, I mean, my most controversial opinion, Rose
is just not that talented.
Like, yeah, he shows up to work, he can do it, but Rose's mug is like in RuPaul's Drag Race, you've got to have it all, honey.
You've got to transform.
You've got to have that.
star quality.
And Rose certainly is talented, but nowhere near the others.
And in his mind, I just think he was so like entitled.
yes and it was like kind of in my opinion I was like he's getting along like it's like kind of like the white privilege of drag like just because he's been in this like family that supported him and that's amazing but I don't know compared I love candy muse rising from the bottom like I just love a great
candy museum
dripping with charisma and personality uniqueness unique I completely agree with you I was just more so on team got Micottmic is iconic too like first of all such style like it's unbelievable.
But then I find a lot of the queens who are very stylish and very fashion-y, like Gigi Goode, really don't open up.
And Gottmick is an amazing comedian and
actress, music.
Like, she nailed it.
She won Snatch Game.
Totally.
So, other than I was like,
Simone was robbed.
Simone was robbed of a top spot, for sure.
Simone was robbed in the Snatch game.
And Tina Berner, who I am friends with.
I love Tina.
I love Tina Berner.
Look, I...
She didn't do as well as she should have on the season, but like, she should not have went home when she was in the middle of the day.
I agree.
She was so robbed in that list.
I was seeing Olivia Luxrome for so long.
Olivia Lux is the most boring, no, nice kid, but like.
No, there was a concern.
But I'm a diva.
You're not a diva.
Olivia Lux was like someone's kid that they didn't want to send home because I couldn't believe that Olivia Lux made it to top five.
That was an atrocity.
She must have had some like secret
on the network.
Yeah, like her dad is the exec or something.
Like there's something going on.
Something.
But
it was a great season, like maybe the best in a while.
Although, don't sleep on UK and we and Australia is coming out now.
Oh, my God.
It should be ready.
By the next time you come to my house, we'll have a whole
bag.
Everyone was talking about you were like dying for RuPaul's Drag Race UK.
So I'm like, okay, whatever.
I'll start it.
And I'm watching it.
I'm like, this is like fine.
So I come over to your house and I'm like, it's good.
But like, the only queen who I'm like dying for is a bag of chips.
And you literally turned to me and you're like, Claudia, you are watching the wrong season.
A season one, I got a lot of fun.
Season one was okay, but season two is up, mate.
So I haven't had the time, but that's on my list of things.
And I will also be watching Downanda because i just love their accents oh man
so good and like who do we think is going to be like the first guest celebrity judge like and like honestly we need danny minogue not kylie danny honestly i was going to suggest keith urban we need like an australian icon even though i don't know if keith urban watches drag but it's amazing on on the us i mean who did we have this year and hathaway scarjo scarjo even remotely like they really killed it yeah it's just such a good show and i'm so glad like everybody it'll make you happy if you've never watched rupaul's drag race just like put it on and enjoy the ride.
I'm trying so hard to get Jackie to watch.
Like she would love it.
Like the fashion is sickening.
Yeah.
But she just said her content plate is full currently.
Yeah.
We'll see.
So we believe Sonia Morgan when she says Luann Dilliseps 100% knew what was going on.
Next up, a little drama, we're coming full circle.
We reported earlier this year about the whole Lady Gaga drama, which was so crazy.
But the suspects in the dognapping case have been arraigned.
Thank God.
The gang members, alleged gang members, accused of shooting Lady Aga's dog walker and kidnapping her French bulldogs were arraigned in Los Angeles on Thursday.
James Jackson, who's 18, Jalen White, who's 19, and Lafayette Whaley, who's 27, face attempted murder and robbery charges for the February 24th Dogs for Cash scheme, according to prosecutors.
Jennifer McBride and Harold White are charged as accessories to the crime.
So this was like a full-fledged affair.
There's five people on trauma.
How terrifying.
And that dog walker is so cute.
By the way,
I know.
After he gets better, like, I think I slid into his DMs wishing him a speedy recovery.
Are you, like, a fan of sliding into people's DMs?
Yeah, from time to time.
Yeah, why not?
I mean, because you're single now.
We should also address the rumors.
Single-ish.
The rumors are, like, are you dating?
The rumors are you're no longer engaged and you are dating Janet Pasta Fazul.
I'm not.
John Pasta Fazulo is just my best friend.
He's not even my, but he's my sister.
So totally platonic.
And then, yeah, so I know I didn't, you know, it was weird.
So I broke up up with my ex-fiancé.
It was quick.
You know, we had gotten engaged in December.
And, you know, things started to get a little, I thought it, I was a little too idealistic and thought, oh, everything will, you know, having a wedding will make it, you know, we'll get through it all.
And we actually did start going to some counseling, but I think it was a little too little, too late.
Right.
And then the pandemic hit, and I really remember thinking, like, okay, I'm leaving the city.
I had a lot of other stressful things going on at the time.
And I just remember thinking, I don't want him to come quarantine with me.
And I was like, that's a moment when I probably shouldn't marry someone that I'm not willing to like
quarantine with.
So, yeah, I made the decision.
He's a great guy.
We still are friends.
But,
you know, I think quarantine was, I needed to slow down.
I needed to hit the reset button.
I think my life before quarantine was just like, as the wise lady Gaga once says, club, club, another
bus, no sleep.
Airplane, airplane, jet lag, jet lag.
So I was, I always, I looked back and I was like, I was on a hamster wheel.
That was, look, so much fun.
I have zero regrets.
I've gotten to see and do amazing things, but I was out of whack.
I was just always exhausted.
So yeah, quarantine.
I didn't get on a plane for 100 days.
I didn't have a drink for 100 days.
I rescued my dog.
You got a horse.
I've had this beautiful house in Pennsylvania for years that I never actually used because I would live in hotels and I would sit there and be like, I have this amazing house that I've never used.
Like, how out of whack, you know?
Yeah.
You're one of the few people I know who is coming out of COVID-19, not only for the better, but like 10 times healthier physically, mentally, spiritually.
Like, I think COVID and the quarantine and the lockdown was the best thing for you, like, because you're a totally different person like you're so much lighter now you know thank you i appreciate that i mean it's definitely been a tough year especially with the business you know i started the points guy in 2010 and it basically was a success from the beginning always profitable last year you know we really you know business overnight go travel and travel and even i just remember having these existential thoughts of like what is it safe to travel you know everyone was hyped up and different people on different sides of the spectrum.
So even though I traveled safely and I believe and still do believe in safe travel, it was tough.
But it reaffirmed like to the core, I love travel.
I see that travel changes people's lives, employs millions of people.
Like, so I think over the last year, you know, your beliefs get shaken, but you come out of it even stronger.
And now, luckily, our business is booming.
We're on an up.
You said a million people are traveling a day.
Over a million, yeah.
The TSA.
So we're
basically at 65% of people going through the TSA versus pre-pandemic, which is pretty amazing considering Europe's still closed for the most part in Asia.
So that's why, yeah, domestically, there's going to be more flights to Mexico, Caribbean, and Q3 of this year than there were pre-pandemic.
Actually, 33% more.
So they're going to be.
Everyone's going to Mexico.
Everyone's going to the Mexico, Caribbean, Florida.
Gotta go.
Hawaii's out of control right now.
So like you're just like living your best life now post-pandemic.
And that's not the case for a lot of people.
So like I'm very impressed by you.
Thank you.
Well, I'm fortunate enough to have had this opportunity.
And now I just keep telling myself, as the world reopens, don't mess it up.
Don't yeah, literally.
and for me it's like girl like stop drinking get your shit together um but back to lady gaga like as dog moms ourselves this was a devastating story like i think it's every person's worst nightmare so i really am looking forward to justice being served totally and how crazy is that the woman that returned it allegedly was involved right like that was that whole thing it the whole thing was just so shady like when they returned the dogs to the precinct i just don't understand why do you have to shoot someone no totally like this like you know there's five of you just club them or something you know like in general.
Totally.
Like, so unnecessary.
Could have just like knocked him out.
No, like, there was a, and by the way, he probably like.
Tanya Hardy.
Hit him in the knee.
Yes.
Embrace your inner Tanya Hardy.
Everyone, can we stop shooting each other?
That was terrible.
Like, it was a really sad story.
And I think everyone thinks, like, it's your worst nightmare.
Like, I have Dog Walker.
Like, it's literally, and I can see someone wanting to, you know, die for Theo.
Like, Theo's stunning.
Theo is.
So Theo, like, there would be tons of, like, drama over Theo.
So, like, it's scary.
Is that why you don't walk him?
Precisely.
That's why we just stay in the house all day because I'm just too afraid.
He's, I take him outside.
He's too beautiful.
People are just going to snatch him.
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Okay, kind of like the breaking news.
Well, I guess when the Q ⁇ A comes up, we'll talk about our thrupple.
Yeah, well, we have to address those rumors as well because the people are quaking.
Josh Duggar has been arrested by federal agents in Arkansas in the least shocking news ever because we have been following the torturous journey that is Josh Duggar Tugger for the last few years.
So they have arrested the former reality star in his home state of Arkansas.
No details about the circumstances of the 33-year-old's arrest have been released, but U.S.
Marshals detained Josh and placed him in federal custody at the Washington County Detention Center in the city of Fayetteville yesterday at 1 o'clock.
No bail was set.
The FBI had no immediate comment when reached by e-news.
Neither Josh nor his wife Anna, who recently announced that she is pregnant with their seventh child, have commented on his arrest.
He has faced legal trouble before, but has never been charged with any crime.
It is unclear if his past reported cases are related to his recent arrests.
In 2015, as you know, the show was canceled from TLC, 19 Kids and Counting, after an unearthed, expunged police report from 2006 stated that Josh Dugger, the reality star, was accused of molesting five underage girls when he was a teenager.
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Their parents told Fox News that Josh, their eldest child, had admitted to inappropriately touching his sisters while they slept.
He was never charged.
So, of course now we're all thinking, well, what did you do?
Oh lord.
Yeah, this isn't going to end well.
These stories just are sad.
And if the FBI gets involved, like that's not your local police.
Like this is
twisted, in your words.
And hopefully justice.
Hopefully.
And at least protect those kids.
I know.
And there's so many of them.
There's 19 kids and counting.
And then all the kids have like seven kids.
So they just keep multiplying.
And honestly, like, he's always, ever since that story came out, he's been so creepy and weird.
And I know that the oldest daughter, I think I want all their names start with Jay, and I don't know who is who, but I believe Jessa, correct me if I'm wrong, the oldest one, has kind of separated from the family.
And her and her husband are like very.
progressive and they're like TikTokers now and they're YouTubers and they talk about how like, you know, they're really embracing, you know, the LGBTQ plus community.
So the family's like all over the place.
But Josh is obviously like the black sheep of the family, but they always protected him.
It's so weird.
Like, that's what we need to stop doing is protecting these like predators.
Yeah.
It's so bizarre.
But it's also bizarre how like there's no
charges.
Like we don't know what he's actually.
He could have like murdered someone.
Like we're just assuming.
But like when are we gonna know?
The FBI is like being very tight-lipped about this.
How dare they?
How dare they?
It's like, yeah.
No, you're 100% right.
We deserve the information.
We are looking forward to justice being served.
And our fifth and final story is coming from a very elite travel website.
I don't know if you guys have heard of it.
It's called thepointsguy.com.
And the kind of like major breaking news, your Instagram, I'm sure you've been doing like TV all week about it.
The European Union is expected to welcome vaccinated Americans this summer.
So as of now, if I wanted to hop on a plane to Italy, could I?
No, unless you had like a business reason or family.
Where you can go today is Iceland.
Greece just opened, although we don't recommend going to Greece until the end of May when they actually open up restaurants.
So that's the thing.
A lot of times you can go to a country, but you may show up and you're like, what am I going to do here?
Fair.
So wait until the end of May, June to go to Greece.
Croatia is also open.
I went to Croatia last summer.
Yes.
Stunning.
And it used to be so crowded.
I will say this, like take your, I've had some of my best trips in the last year.
You know, going to Croatia in August last year when I was, you know, it was probably 10% and walking through the streets of Dubrubnik with the city to myself versus eight years earlier when it was jam-packed with cruise tourists.
And so, but yeah, this summer, I was shocked by that Sunday when the European Commission president came out and said that.
What she said was, it's open, and if you're vaccinated, you'll be able to travel freely between all 27 member states.
With a mask around.
It's interesting because in Europe,
I mean, indoors, you wear masks, but outdoors, it's never been a thing, which is kind of smart.
And like, the CDC hasn't even agreed as much.
So, yeah, I mean, here's a couple tips if you're going to think about going to Europe.
Let's wait a little bit to see what the rules are.
I know a lot of people also have unvaccinated family members who can't get vaccinated or 16-year-olds and under who can't get the vaccine.
What do we do?
Well, Greece and Croatia have already said you can take a negative test.
So if you're unvaccinated for whatever reason or have kids, you might want to plan one of those destinations.
France, yesterday, just said they'll be opening up June 9th.
And then May 17th is when the UK opens up potentially.
I talked to CEO of Delta, Ed Bastion.
He thinks that...
He's hot.
He's so really great guy.
When he comes up on the TV, like with the safety thing at the beginning of every flight, I'm like, damn, that's a handsome man.
And he also gave up his salary to like...
Live for him.
He's like an iconic travel industry leader.
Is he married?
Yes.
Fuck.
In any case, so for anyone who's like, okay, when do we book?
So you can book now.
And, you know, I would recommend later in the summer as possible.
But don't book basic economy tickets.
So all the airlines, you know, when you are in BVIs, you can change your flights for free.
He's amazing.
However,
not basic economy tickets.
So if you're going to book a speculative ticket,
I don't even.
so use a ticket, book a ticket that you can refund.
And most airlines will tell you if it's basic economy.
Try to avoid that.
I would recommend booking a basic economy once we know the dates, the rules, etc.
Do not book non-refundable hotels.
You know, book a refundable hotel because things change all the time.
Totally.
And you want your money back.
You don't want to have a huge voucher for a random hotel in Paris if for some reason they shut down again.
But having a huge voucher, because like I just, I keep every trip I go on in the last six months, I end up extending just because like I haven't traveled in so long.
And I don't mind mind getting my refund from Delta in the form of a credit.
Like I'll use it.
Because you're rich.
But think about people who don't have the money to pay rent.
That's true.
You can't pay rent with the Delta voucher if you try to travel.
So what's the best way to get your money back from an airline?
So first and foremost, I recommend use your frequent flyer miles these days because in addition to free changes on paid tickets, most airlines now allow you to get your miles back fully free of charge.
So if you want to just get that trip to Mykonos on the books, use your miles and then you can cancel, change, whatever.
It's like buying a refundable ticket.
Okay.
If not, then, you know, if the airline changes your flight time by like an hour or two, you can call and request a full refund.
They'll say, no, just take a voucher, but you can say, no, actually, I want a refund.
And if the airline cancels your flight,
you are entitled to full cash refund.
You can also just ask, too.
I recommend being extremely nice.
Delta is probably the nicest of all the airlines.
I know tons of people who during the pandemic...
were like, I just can't travel.
And they actually did full refunds.
Wow.
But you never get it unless you ask.
And I recommend asking nicely.
Yes, I agree with that.
It's very painful to be at airports and see people who are like, oh, dude, you cancel my flight.
There's a tornado coming, but we could still, you know.
Right.
Like, it's the fucking gate agent's fault.
Like, or, you know, here's a news flush, people, even if it's bright and sunny where you are, where the plane is coming from might be unsafe.
So it's like.
Right.
There's a million reasons, and it's not the gate agent's fault.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But it also is frustrating to be a traveler and like have your plans like just so fucked and like don't you don't know who to be mad at, you know?
Like you can literally be mad at no one.
So are you going to be traveling this summer?
So right now I actually have a ticket with you.
We were supposed to go to Israel in June.
And Israel is interesting.
They opened up, but only for group tourists now.
I do believe if you have a group of people, you can probably get the approval to go or work with a travel agent.
By June, when we're supposed to go, they may change it because Israel's been amazing with vaccination.
They're almost like 100%.
So that, I don't, I'm 50-50 on whether Israel will happen because we're supposed to go see Celine Dion.
We are going.
So we started the pandemic March 5th, going to Celine Dion, front row at the Barclay Center.
And it's only right that we ended up end the pandemic mentally physically metaphysically with seeing spiritual
we
have to go like we have to go in in israel did you just get like chills down your spine going to israel for me is like such a spiritual experience already and to see like the queen of my heart would i
don't know if you ever recapped it but like the experience of selena when celine was coming up to claudia by the way When Celine, we were front row.
Of course, because Brian bought the tickets, not me.
And, you know, I've met Celine a couple of times.
She toys with us.
She gave me her story.
You're so b and you're so visible in a crowd because you're so tall.
How tall are you?
6'7.
And I also wear like obnoxious Versacco shit.
She's a shirt.
Like literally, like you could, you are so memorable.
And she literally, you said, I think she remembers me.
And when we went to the concert, she 100% remembered you.
Like you're...
unforgettable.
She like took her wristband off, rubbed it down her chest and tossed it to me.
And I just remember being like, then my relationship was like coming to an end.
I knew COVID was going to turn my life upside down.
It was like a full-blown, my life was out of control, but I was like, I got this.
Celine looked me in the eyes and I was like, I can get.
And true story, I started the point sky because of Celine Deion.
Yes, this is the best story.
Tell them.
Real quickly, so I've been at Celine's stan since like 07 when I saw her.
She had an album called Taking Chances.
The song Taking Chances is iconic.
Listen to it right now.
It will, if you're ever thinking of doing something that puts you outside of your comfort zone, it's literally she.
So anyway, I started The Points Guy in June of 2010 while I was at Morgan Stanley.
It starts taking off.
I remember like like, people were like, You're the point sky.
And I was like, Oh my god, this is so cool.
I was like in my cubicle blogging back when blogging was.
And so, anyway, I kind of it started to become a thing.
I wanted to quit, but everyone was like, Brian, you can't.
You're about to get VP at Morgan Stanley.
You know what I mean?
To leave Morgan Stanley for a passion project is the fucking craziest thing.
And I was walking through Times Square.
I had an out-of-body experience.
Celine Deion taking chances played.
I went into the cube, or I went into the elevator in Times Square, went straight to my boss's office.
I said, I have to quit and do the points guy full-time.
And she goes, Hell yeah, man.
High five.
She's like, if it doesn't work back, work out, come back instantly.
And I was like, oh my God, in my head, we always think the worst.
Yeah.
It's all or nothing.
And it really taught me, like, okay, like, we create these crazy, like, Sophie's choice in our head when we actually have a lot more options.
No, but you're also like such a, and what I've really learned amongst many things from you is like, you are so nice to everyone.
Like, you build relationships with people.
You don't care if they can, you know, if they're, you know, the top of the food chain or the bottom of the food chain.
Like, you were just lovely to everyone.
So of course they would want you back at Morgan Stanley because you're a delight.
Like who wouldn't want to work with you?
Thank you so much.
It's true.
No, it's really.
But I think it's a good message for people out there.
Like, and trust me, even at the points guy, like, I've been, you know, being nice to people gets you way further than being a brat.
No, and that's in your work life, but also like even at an airport.
Like if you're an asshole, like no one wants to help you.
Yeah.
There was a guy in high school in college.
I was student body president.
He created this iHeartBK fan club.
I thought he was a stalker, kind of weird, but I was always nice to him.
And then he was the one, truly, when the points guy started off.
He reached out to me and said, Brian, you're blogging about credit cards.
I work for this marketing company for Amex, and I can get you in.
And because I was nice, like, I thought he was a freak and didn't want to ever talk to him, but I kept the relationship open.
And then he changed my life by monetizing the blog, which overnight was like, oh my God, this is my path to do.
Right.
And that's how you can really afford to leave your job at Morgan Stanley because a passion project is fun.
But if you're not making any money, it's just a passion.
Exactly.
Well, that's fabulous.
And Celine Dion started it all.
Taking chance.
And I know Toasters will always say, like, and other Celine Dion songs that we love, Imperfections.
Don't sleep on it.
It's amazing.
Don't sleep on imperfections or courage.
Courage, yes.
Brian, I said to Brian when we went to the Celine Dion concert, I hope she doesn't play any for new music because, like, sure, it's great, but like.
just stick to the classics.
And Brian was like, no, her new album is like filled with gems.
And she started to play a new song.
And I was literally going to go to the bathroom and like go get some french fries.
And Brian was like, just sit and listen.
I sat down and I literally started crying.
Like it was stunning because it's all about her losing her husband and her son, right?
She didn't lose her son.
Her mom.
And also,
so Imperfections is like the ultimate breakup song, too.
So I listen to that song like 10 times a day after I broke up with my fiancé.
No, it's inspiring.
And then I also recommend Kim Petrus.
For when you want to throw the fuck down.
She is an underrated.
Malibu, icy, I don't want it all.
Listen to it.
Thank me later.
She actually did a, over the pandemic, she did a virtual concert for Red Ventures.
And she nailed it.
She was so easy to work with.
I love you, Kim Petrus, and she's going to be a star.
She is a star.
She is a star.
I am a star.
But, like, she should be 10 times better, and it's just feel-good music.
You introduced me to her, as you do all good things.
Okay, so I know you're a busy man, and I won't take you for that much longer, but and I'm sure this happens to you all the time.
Like, people just have a million questions for you about that.
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Okay, so I'm just going to rattle off some questions for you because the toasters are quaking.
What do you think it's going to take for the U.S.
to allow Europeans to come in and come back and visit with non-stop routes?
So I believe...
We'll hear an announcement within the next week or so from our government.
I think we could be letting Europeans in as early as
mid-May.
That was the rumor we heard a couple months ago.
I think our vaccinations are, you know, the numbers are under control.
And look, tourism is important, but so many families have been separated.
I know.
And so for people who have been dating someone abroad and can't see them, I'm very hopeful that families will be reunited soon.
Honestly, like the pandemic has been so challenging for everyone, but I cannot imagine how like painful it's be to like not see family like who lives in another state or like a boyfriend.
Like that's crazy.
Also, is it terrible to say like, because tourism is such like a valuable economical thing, but I've really enjoyed like the city being just like a little bit less packed.
Is that bad?
It's not bad.
No, I just have like it's so quiet.
It's like, come on, this 12 p.m.
curfew.
No, Brian.
It was 11 p.m.
And then Cuomo was like 12 p.m.
And are we supposed to be grateful?
Like, it's, I'm like, girl, like, what, July, what, July 4 now, New York?
July 1, they say, like, completely open.
I don't know what that means because it feels like we are open.
Do you just want to live in Pennsylvania in June?
100%.
I just bought...
Yeah, we can get into that later.
We'll get into it.
Okay, so whatever I tell people like about, because points are very confusing, but the biggest thing that I've learned from you is like not to use those portals.
Is that correct?
Like the chase portal?
Well, look, the chase portal, if you have the Sapphire Reserve, you're getting one and a half cents a point.
I actually use it now because I have so many points when I stay at hotels in the city because I actually gave up my apartment because I'm barely here anymore.
So it's not the worst, but the best value in general is when you can transfer to airlines and book first-class seats.
But considering international travel is so much down, look, the old rules are out the window.
Use your points.
They're going to go down in value because there's so many points, so fewer flights.
So just use your points and be happy with it.
Just don't let them stack up.
Do you get motion sickness?
No.
Any type of like...
No boatsick.
No, I got boat sickness once, never got it again.
Never been sick on a plane.
I used to be really afraid of heights, not on an airplane, but like even now near like a ledge, I get like queasy or whatever.
Have you ever skydived?
No, but I did hang gliding in South Africa off of Signal Hill, which I did it with my dad.
He went first with his, and we just floated through the air in Cape Town, over the ocean.
We saw like a whale jump.
Wow.
We both, it was one of those experiences.
I was scared shit.
Of course.
But like Kelly Clarkson said, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
No.
And we got down on the ground.
It was like, I hugged my dad.
It was like, oh my God, your dad is so cute.
And his name is also Brian Kelly Sr.
He's awesome.
Are you Brian Kelly Jr.
too?
We have different.
I'm Christopher Kelly.
He's Patrick Kelly.
You guys are so Irish.
It's hilarious.
And by the way, this Irish cream is delicious.
I'm glad you're enjoying it because I'm not.
Is there a risk of traveling with kids and them catching COVID?
So one of my colleagues just took his kids to spring break in the Bahamas and his six-year-old tested positive for COVID.
And so they had to stay in their house.
They were on this beachfront house and they couldn't leave the house.
So you had to like look at the beach the whole day and then just
go to the beach.
Yeah, so they had to stay until she tested negative, which was like 10 days.
Well, a lot of hotels, I saw this thing.
Luckily, kids aren't getting sick, but.
Right.
But I saw the SLS Bahamar, which is a great hotel for bachelorette parties, is offering if you catch, they're so certain that they have the best COVID protocols that if you catch COVID at their property, they will let you stay for free for two weeks and fly you back private to your house.
Well, the private thing is a gimmick.
It's like not actually.
But yeah, a lot of hotels will either give you 50% off.
Like I was for sure, like people are going to get COVID just to get a free vacation.
Oh, for sure.
No, I literally want, when I heard about the private chat, I wanted to go to SLS and like lick the floor.
But yeah, a lot of hotels will help not only just get the test, but if it tests positive.
Once you've spent all of your points you have on a credit card, what's the next move?
You build it back up.
Do you find another card within the card?
Get another card.
The card market right now is the hottest I've ever seen it.
There's like 80,000 points in the Sapphire Preferred, which if you're looking to get like an intro card, that's the no-brainer card.
It's $95 a year, but you're getting those 80,000 points are worth over $1,000 in Chase Travel.
So there's no way you can possibly lose.
But yeah, once you use those 80,000, I mean, yeah, there's a million and one other cards.
You know, don't just make sure when you apply for a card, you know, you usually have to spend $3,000.
Just don't apply for four, four, and all of a sudden you're like, I need to spend $12,000 this month.
So you recommend like one at a time.
Yeah, go one at a time.
And look, look at your score.
Your score will have a temporary dip when you apply for new credit, but then it increases.
But you must, must, must, must, must pay your bills on time and in full.
And not, they say like you shouldn't spend above half your credit limit.
Yeah, I mean, you just pay your bills in full every month.
I mean, because if you're paying interest, the points that you're accruing are going to be eviscerated by the interest fees.
So to win at the game, you got to be smart.
Don't spend more than you.
Spend what you have.
Yeah.
And what about cruises?
Like, where are we at with cruises?
Cruises is interesting.
They just announced from the U.S.
The CDC saw us to approve it.
They kind of gave it approval the other day, but most of the cruise lines are saying, okay, well, screw the U.S.
They're going to leave from Bermuda, Jamaica, Barbados.
Bahamas.
And no Alaska cruises, but there's some European ones this summer.
TBD, they're supposed to be doing drills this month and in June, like fake cruises where they, you know, we'll see.
But cruising will come back, really not meaningfully until 2022.
I know, but you know what?
Like, I feel like if a cruise, well, actually, no, that makes no sense.
How many people usually go on a cruise?
Like, I'm not sure if it's a good one.
I mean, some of these ships have 5,000 people.
And the thing is, testing, as we all know, you know, within 72 hours, well, great.
A lot of things can happen within 72 hours.
And the rapids aren't 100% reliable.
I mean, my
friend who I was with, she's fully vaccinated.
She tested positive.
And then was freaked out.
And then she went and got two other tests and was negative because she had just gotten the vaccine.
There's like these outliers.
But that was like an at-home one that this company had sent us.
So it's the testing is still.
Don't think, yeah, just be careful with the testing.
This is a very good question that I had.
Where is it?
Oh,
can you give your thoughts on the thrupple?
Yeah, so, you know, Ben's a very caring guy.
And, you know, I'm like normally the big guy in the relationship.
And like, once in a while, it's just nice to be the small spoon.
Yeah.
He's a really good spooner.
No, and you guys are both so, you know, different, but like.
Well, we have the same joie de viv.
You know, we both love food.
Yes.
And
just, you know.
So Ben and I connect on a culinary level where me and you connect.
On a sexual level.
Very sexual, yeah.
Okay, so cruises, like, you don't think it'll be, because we got a lot of questions.
Nothing till next year, really.
What's the best?
Oh, I have to talk to you.
And you have to be vaccinated to go on a cruise.
In general.
I have to talk to you.
Because you always say, and I've asked you this, and people always want to know, like, in your opinion, what is the best
commercial airline in the States?
And you say.
Well, Delta is the best, like, run airline.
JetBlue
is like for everyday people, like legroom, snacks.
I was in Florida, and I flew home JetBlue.
And I really, you know, I only fly Delta, but I was like, okay, like Brian says JetBlue is it.
JetBlue should be okay.
And honestly, and this is going to be crazy.
It was giving me spirit airline vibes.
How do you figure it?
First of all, like there's TVs, you have free snacks, there's tons of legroom.
No, it was, first of all, it was just like, okay, it wasn't even, nothing was free.
And I was in extra legroom, of course.
What do you mean nothing's free?
Literally, they walk around headphones, $6.
Headphones?
Headphones are free.
No, Claudia, you haven't phoned Coach in a while, but in Coach, you have to pay for headphones.
No.
No.
They are not free.
And maybe on international flights, but every domestic carrier will.
Because if headphones are found.
That is not a jet blue thing.
If headphones are not free, then my AirPods should work with the TV.
When are we going to get free?
I've asked them.
Yeah, it's tough with
so many Bluetooth frequencies and then like the navigation, whatever.
But then also.
But you can just bring a plug.
You know, Delta doesn't serve fresca anymore.
Can you explain that?
Well, Delta cut back a ton, so they were only serving beer, wine, and water.
Yeah, no soda, but I can get a beer.
How does that make sense?
No, it's cost-cutting at the end of the day.
You know, like Delta...
blocked all middle seats, which cost them, so they had to cut back extremely on food.
But Delta, I have to say, is like really doing a fabulous job with the seats.
But May 1, starting May 1,
now, they're going to be booked full.
And kind of the biggest thing to happen in the travel industry, which makes no fucking sense, is the attack on dogs.
No more emotional support.
What the fuck?
Well, yeah, it's tough for people who fly.
Well, the problem is, you know, this is why we can't have nice things because people brought their tern-ass dogs that were not trained, not well-behaved.
And as we all know, it's not the dogs' fault.
Yes.
Dumbass owners.
There's no bad dogs.
And truthfully, I mean, the numbers show that like there were 20,000 dog bites in the sky in like 2019 20 000 i already know that
a lot of my flight attendant friends are like brian your dogs are great but like you don't understand most people bring on their wild untrained dog yeah it creates a hazard it does so it's a shame for all the people who like have good dogs and take care of their dogs but there's always morons yeah so but you can still you can still fly with your dog like you have to keep them in the carrier no yep you should but you know it to you have to look into it um but you can still certify your dog as a service animal there are ways around it So if you're very, you know, do a little research, you're not officially
endorsing anything, but there, you know, I see a lot of dogs still in the sky.
So it's so annoying.
I'm sure any toaster will be able to figure it out.
Yeah.
Catch my drift.
Final question for vaccinated Americans.
What are currently your top three places you would recommend to travel within the next couple of months, taking COVID restrictions and regulations in terms of?
Iceland, Iceland, Iceland.
I've been twice, once in July, once in December.
So two extremes.
Loved it both times.
Iceland used to be overridden with tourists.
It's empty.
We had one of our employees go last month when they opened up to Americans.
So simple.
You bring your CDC card, you breeze through, no testing.
Yeah, it's like a Christmas card and I can't use it.
So beautiful.
Like, truly, it is a mystical land of love.
And it's like five hours.
It's like going to LA.
It is?
Yeah, it's five hours away.
It's like halfway to London.
Like, less than.
That's like crazy.
I thought it was like literally 12 hours.
No, you fly over when you go to Europe.
It's so beautiful.
Highly recommend Iceland.
You know, Croatia is so beautiful.
Sickening.
And Game of Thrones.
And Havar.
So Dubrubnik and Split are the beautiful historic towns.
Havar, H-V-A-R, party town.
It's where electronic music festivals first started.
Beach clubs.
Oh, wow.
Beautiful, cool vibe.
Toasters.
That you will love Havar.
Oh, my God.
Got to get to Havar.
And also, you can rent boats and go.
There's all these Croatian islands.
Stunning.
The food, and it's pretty cheap.
Greece will be opening up.
And then in the U.S., the thing about the U.S.
is things are packed.
Like, you know, you're not going to find a lot of travel deals to Hawaii or Miami.
You know, I was in Miami at the end of March.
It was $2,000 a night.
I was in Florida.
Literally, the airport was pandemonium.
So what I would tell people is, you know, if you're in good health, if you're vaccinated, go to Iceland now.
Take your girlfriends.
You will have the best time of your life.
No, it's, you're right.
Like, take this time as an opportunity.
Yes, because especially we were in the BBIs and it was kind of torturous, like so many tests every day.
But it was so worth it because we were at this hotel and dead ass.
Like they said it was 10% capacity.
I swear to God, we were the only people there.
How cool!
I mean, I loved it.
I loved it.
Having your own billion-dollar resort to like yourself, nothing else.
It was so special.
Like, and you'll never get that.
So, you're right.
And BBIs are getting much more relaxed May 15th.
If you're vaccinated, you have to take like one test when you arrive.
They almost didn't let me into the hotel because
my test results hadn't come back yet.
It was too cool.
BBIs are very toasty.
Yeah.
Soggy dollar.
It's so
toast central.
I've never been, but
you're always going to the Maldives.
Maldives.
And Maldives are open vaccine passport.
And even if your friends abroad can't get vaccines, Maldives are going to start offering vaccines to tourists.
So you can go.
Are people abroad having a hard time getting?
Yeah, I mean, it's really slow.
In some countries, you can't.
When I was in Portugal, my friend there was like my age.
She's like, right now I'm scheduled for 2023.
Yeah, it's like really slow.
So, yeah, Maldives are sickening.
Wow, I didn't know that.
I feel so blessed that we're just going to.
And use your points to fly like Emirates or Qatar through the Middle East to go to the Maldives.
Oh, it's the best.
Yeah, and Dubai is also open.
I had so much fun in Dubai over New Year's going to a Kiss Club.
Yes, that looked like Turnisia.
Well, thank you for lending us your expertise.
I'm sorry to have taken you for so long.
I hope you guys learned something.
And I just so I'm honored and humbled that you spent your morning with us at the Morning Toast.
We are so grateful.
We really are.
See you this afternoon, tomorrow, tomorrow night.
I'll see you tomorrow, tomorrow morning, tomorrow night.
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