S4 Ep46: The Great Grammy Debate: Monday, March 15th, 2021

Good morning, Millennials.

Welcome back to the morning toast.

Welcome back to me

and to the studio and to the YouTube channel.

What up, everyone?

We are back, baby.

We're back.

It's been so long.

So much has happened.

There was a quarantine.

There was a trip.

There was so much.

There was.

And

I think it's so important to take time for yourself because, like, I have this zest for life right now.

Like, this is going to be the best episode ever.

Wow, I'm so excited.

It's just like, I think, I don't even know how to explain how it is that I'm feeling.

And I hope that everyone who's listening can take time for themselves, like, just a few days away from your job if you can.

Like, it is so refreshing.

And to see other people,

there's nothing like it.

There is nothing like other human beings.

And I never thought that's something I would say.

Because I hate other people.

I've never thought that's something that you would say either.

Oh, it was delicious.

I just loved waiting in lines at the airport.

Like, I was just like living for it.

Nice.

Well tell us about your trip.

Oh well, it was very long and I apologize in advance for taking that extra week off.

I think I think we all needed it.

I'm not mad about it.

I'm happy you got what you needed out of it.

I liked, you know, being at home and, but I'm also so happy to be back in studio finally, but I needed to miss the studio.

That's it.

It's like you need to miss, don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you got today.

It's gone.

Literally.

Literally, absence makes the heart grow fonder.

So I definitely felt that.

And I just, just, I was supposed to leave on Monday.

And this feeling like of having to leave was making me so upset.

I was like, I can't.

Like, I was literally going to cry.

I'm like, I love vacation me and I'm tan and I'm beautiful and I'm excited and I don't have anxiety.

So I was with Brian because we were celebrating his birthday, TPG.

And of course, he had like a whole other leg of his trip planned to this other island and this amazing hotel.

So I decided to just book a room and, you know, throw caution into the wind.

And I've never been that type of girl.

Like, wander lust.

You're also the type of person that, like, when your vacation is done like you are done and you're ready to go home so if you weren't ready then it wasn't your time I much like the San Francisco 49ers it was not your time exactly and I actually like to pry one of my favorite qualities about myself is like I could be on an amazing trip but when the trip is over like I always really want to go home like I always miss my home I always miss theo I don't fucking miss my home anymore because like I've been there for so long so I knew Theo was in great hands with his grandparents and I felt like If not now, I had Norma in my head.

Norma was like, your 20s, after this pandemic is over, when you have the first opportunity, like get the fuck out there.

And so I got the fuck out there.

And I had the best second half of the trip.

I stayed at the Rosewood and I literally called you the second I got there because you and Zach have to go there.

Like it is honeymoon central.

Rosewood in Virgin Gorda, which is, I've never been to the British Virgin Islands.

Sickening.

The most, it was giving me Turks and Caicos Maldives vibes.

And it's not super easy to get to, but it's not 16 hours to the Maldives.

Like it was gorgeous and it was so unique.

Me and Brian did a Patreon episode and you really spoke about how like this is such a unique time to travel.

and if you

can like with so many people are working remotely now so you really can travel and if you feel safe doing it it's super safe it's so special like i was at this hotel that was they say they were at 10 capacity me brian and ben were the only people at this hotel like it literally felt like the kids were the campers were like running the joint we love to see it it's so unique like i encourage everyone to safely travel because like Brian said even on the on the podcast, like in one way or another, like change fees are coming back.

Like all this stuff, we're going to get back to where we were before.

So if you can, just like take a weekend for yourself, road trip, fly somewhere.

I felt so safe.

Like I never felt for one second, like I was in like a situation that I was uncomfortable with.

The BVIs, I've had my nose poked and prodded, I think

probably six or eight times in the two weeks that I was gone because they have very strict rules.

So I felt really safe, even though they do the COVID tests a little different in the BVI.

Like they choke you to death.

Like in the airport, the second you land in Tortola, they test you.

And I walk out of the center and I'm like, Ben, like, was that?

I'm like a baby.

So I'm like, was that insane?

We come out crying.

Like, they just do it differently in the BBIs, but whatever.

I was allowed to travel.

So all in all, thank you everyone for giving me the grace of taking an extra week off.

And it was incredible.

And

self-care.

Self-care is so important, except I was doing a Peloton ride and Robin NYC said something like so profound.

Didn't she just give birth?

She just gave birth.

And also I've been back on my Peloton grind.

I'm finally beating my old record.

So like I've gotten to a good place mentally not like physically really but i guess that's good though emotionally all that matters but she once said in a ride that really stuck with me sometimes self-care looks like hard work

not what you were just saying you know we're like speaking different languages no no but like sometimes it does you know like yeah well yeah it depends if you're robin nyc like of course

sometimes like i'm sure robin nyc also like goes on vacation and chills out but like sometimes what you need to do what's best for yourself is to put in the work okay so like i'm like hating that you're saying that because let me tell you why like i'm the type of person like who unpacks like the second i get home and of course i have not unpacked and it's killing me but like i just can't like to unpack the memories it'll be so sad and like i'm just not in the mood and i feel like in order to feel my best i i should unpack sometimes self-care looks like hard work sometimes self-care looks like unpacking it's so unlike me like i'm i literally like i could get home but the thing is i think that you've been taking care of yourself so like if you slip on the unpacking like it's fine the the scales they balance out like i I literally just want to like hire an intern to unpack for me like I so don't want why can Theo do it because he's useless

I missed him so much how's Bruiser

you guys new Bruiser your stories by the way sorry to cut you off like for the thousandth time

your stories have been some of your finest work really I keep responding to everyone LOL LOL like I feel like nobody cares about Bruno and his cone oh I mean I don't know about I can't speak for you know the whole community but I'm a tough critic so if you if you're into it then I think others are too hysterical he's doing well like every day he's getting better his spirits are coming back but it's like this sense of betrayal like that he feels I've taken away his committed towards him it's really put a strain on our relationship and I keep telling him like Brew it will get better like better days are ahead of you what can I do to make you feel special like what does brew want to do brew needs some self-care brew needs a vacation what about brew

and really all he wants is to see magnolia and theo like and that's all and he's like i've told you a million times but can he while he just has stitches um well Knowles has been like busy Theo's been busy so it's like it hasn't even been an option his stitches seem like on the men so as long I think that in a few days he could see them but it's like everyone is so busy Theo literally is back to back back to back to back and you know what he's doing all day today meetings, meetings, meetings.

Meetings, meetings, meetings.

He's booked and busy.

No, we got to get the band back together like now because we were in quarantine for a week.

Then we had two weeks off for the trip.

Like it has been like a full ass month since I've seen my family.

Yeah, no, it's just so not like us.

It's so not like us, but it's just a wild few weeks.

The Parcells would be so upset with us.

Like, I know, but you know what?

I'm sure, like, Parcels, like, things have happened.

I saw Rachel was in Hawaii.

Yeah, it looked like a beautiful trip.

Gotta hit up the montage.

Totally.

Also, I think we should just talk about like, obviously, the elephant in the room.

Witches.

How tan I am.

There are so many.

There's so, well, one right here, but how tan I am.

Like, I think we should talk about it.

I think it's a beautiful glow.

I feel like sickening the sands down.

I have, like,

I think I'm Gigi Haddy.

Like, I'm the most beautiful woman in the world.

And as I was doing my makeup today, I was like in the vanity being like, oh my God, I'm so gorgeous.

Like, it really got to me how like, of course, a spray tan is good, but like, nothing compares to like a true tan with the freckles.

And it's like upsetting that we live in New York and like this, I'll only look like this for like a few more days.

And this only happens like once a year.

And it really made me start thinking, like, I think I got to hit up the UV beds.

Like, I need like a real tan.

And it's like, yes, I could get skin cancer, which would not be good, but I would be tan.

I think the spray tan will have to suffice.

I don't think, I think at this point, like the beds, we just know too much about them.

No, and I think our grandfather would be disappointed in us after all.

He did die of skin cancer.

Right.

But I think

I don't know.

I haven't written it off yet.

No, no, no, but you should.

I know, but like, how do I get this real-looking tan spray?

And you know what?

Here's the other thing.

If you were to look this tan all the time, then you wouldn't even feel fabulous anymore.

Shit, bitch, you are so fucking smart.

So I think enjoy it while you have it.

Sickening, let's get a close-up on the tan.

But like when it goes away, like look at my chest.

Like, hold on.

And also, like, we can't talk about this tan without talking about the sunburn that you had to endure.

Oh, my God.

To get it.

Okay, let me tell you.

Let me tell you.

So me and Ben, the whole trip was supposed to be one weekend.

And I'm like in the British Virgin Islands for Brian's birthday.

And I'm like, you know what, Ben, like, let's make the most of it.

Let's go to like a random other island before.

And I always get a spray tan before a trip if I'm traveling with other people.

Cause, you know, you like to get dressed up, whatever.

Because it makes everything better.

Makes everything better.

But if it's like just me and Ben on a trip, like, I don't give a shit what I look like.

So I was like, should I get a spray tan or should we go to St.

Thomas first, get really tan and show up to like Brian's birthday trip looking sickening?

So annoying what happened.

So I'm like, that's funny.

Let's do that.

So we get there.

We only have like two full days in the sun before we have to go to Brian's.

And so I'm making the most.

And I'm like, not wearing sunblock, but I'm like, I know I'll get a little burned, but that's okay.

Cause like I'll be sickeningly tanned in like no time.

We get back from the beach the first day and you know you don't realize like how bad it is until you've showered and you're inside.

And I did look at the UV index

as I was sitting in the sun for literally 12 hours and it said 11.

And I don't know why.

I don't even know why I bothered to look it up because I don't even know what that means, but I later learned it's the highest one.

And we get back and me and Ben are tomatoes.

It's the kind of sunburn where you're purple, you know?

I do know.

This is hurting me.

It was so crazy.

It like literally ruined like a huge part of our trip.

Like we could not sit in the sun for any other day.

Like I couldn't even take a bath.

I went to go to the spa.

I couldn't go to the spa.

It was crazy.

We were doing, we were so desperate because like we were planning on showing up to the party looking sickening.

Standing sick.

Literally, we looked so sick when we arrived.

Everyone was like, oh my god, are you guys okay?

You look sick.

And we were like trying to play it off.

We're like, we're fine.

Like, we've just been in the sun a lot.

We were dying.

We couldn't even walk.

Like, it was literally like robot walking.

It was traumatizing.

So, this is your sign to wear sunblock.

And I feel like because we've not seen the sun for a year, like, you do forget how powerful it can be.

And so, I think a lot of people will encounter, they'll be so excited for the sun, like, so excited to no longer be green that they'll get a little carried away.

So, I'm glad we have this warning: wear sunscreen.

I know it's like not so cool to put on sunscreen, like, while you're like sunbathing.

I know, but like, it's also not cool to be purple.

You should see my back, like, you would die.

It's literally looks like, I don't even know how to explain it.

Like, it's just skin falling off like in every direction and it's so itchy and I can't scratch my back.

It's literally like the most it's the most cruel thing ever like having a scratch on your back that you can't itch.

But imagine having it 24-7.

But if I scratch your back you need to scratch me.

Remember when Chris Jenner almost managed that girl band BG5?

Yeah, I think that she did, but she obviously like would say now that she didn't consider it.

Because it was a huge failure.

Yeah, huge failure.

Not everyone can be Little Mix.

You guys, Little Mix is just taking over the world.

Does anyone else feel that way?

They wake up every day and it's like Little Mix just did something else sickening?

No, I don't, but I don't doubt that you feel that way.

But it's also because I, like, on Peloton, I guess, like, you were in the BBIs, I was on the Peloton.

Right.

And on the Peloton, like, all the instructors that I ride with have so much respect for Little Mix.

And every single time a Little Mix song comes on, they're like, Little Mix, they were on X Factor.

They said girl bands can't win X Factor.

Guess what they did?

They won X Factor.

Is Peloton big in the UK, maybe?

Well, one of the instructors that I ride with is

from the UK, but just Cody Rigsby has the utmost respect for Little Mix, and it's a pleasure to ride.

So I actually followed Cody Rigsby on TikTok.

Like, not that I know anything about his work.

I've never even said that.

All I know about, like, or all you need to know is that, like, he would be your best friend.

I know.

And so, like, he goes viral on TikTok a lot.

Like, not his videos, but people are always clipping his, like, funny shit that he says on his ride.

And

so I followed him.

And good stuff?

I haven't seen anything yet.

Like, I literally did it yesterday.

Got it.

Well, that's who I've been hanging out with.

And Bruno Sweets.

And Bruno Sweets.

And Bruno Sweets every day, like a new cone arrives for him

to figure out.

And he's just like, he's like, this is better than what I was working with, but still a betrayal.

I was like a deadbeat mom.

I took the cone off.

Like, I know you're not supposed to, but like, Theo didn't lick his suture.

So, like, he was fine.

Yeah, we got him like this turtleneck.

Um, that's what Theo had.

Onesie, and it's just a little big.

I have like a smaller one coming soon.

And unfortunately, like, we caught him, like, licking a little, so it had to come off.

It was, like, really sad.

I was like, you had one job, and it just was to not lick.

Yeah, but you can also give him an hour a day without the cone.

Just watch him.

Yeah, yeah.

So

it's been getting better.

It's just, it was tough for Bruno Sweets, you know.

For the whole Wine Rib Sweets family.

It really was.

But I think eventually it will bring us all together.

Of course.

And I'm just glad that now Bruno can safely play in the park.

Very, very true.

Just in time.

Oh, everyone's like, come into New York.

It's 65 degrees.

It's 27 fucking degrees today.

It's freezing.

Yeah, you guys, we had one nice day.

Like, let's not get carried away.

No, that's exactly what people did.

Got carried the fuck away.

I know, and it's like even Saturday and Sunday, it was like 30s, 40s, but everyone was treating it like 60s, which was actually nice.

I actually had a really fun, like, day, outdoor day with my friends on Saturday.

And it was nice to like have that

vibe again.

Yeah, I saw your stories, and I'm like, oh, homegirl's wearing a fur coat.

It's not warm anymore.

Right, but it's like, I'm just going to act like it's warm, but it's not.

You have to,

wait, hold on.

Create the weather that you wish to see in the world.

Yeah, dress for the weather that you wish to see in the world.

But then sometimes, like, if you're dressed so out of season, like, you look like a fool.

Yeah, you, everyone, everyone has a memory of like childhood when it's like it turns or adulthood.

Yeah, right.

Or, like, I have a distinct memory.

It's like, oh, it randomly, like, became spring and like you're still in your fucking like long sleeve turtleneck.

And it's like the shame.

You never forget incidents like that, ever.

I remember one, it was in adulthood where it was, like, transitioning from

summer to fall.

And I just decided that it was going to be fall today.

And so, like, I got all dressed up for fall and it was like so hot.

You fell into fall.

And I felt so stupid.

Like, I'm telling you, like, it's literally the most traumatizing.

And it's such like a random thing.

And everyone's like, aren't you hot?

Yes, Sally.

I'm fucking hot.

I fucked up.

Like, why don't you rub it in?

It's really like a traumatizing.

And you're right.

It happens in adulthood.

But for me, like, that traumatizing moment was 100% like in middle school.

Yeah, actually, my first memory, like, as like, if you think of like the first memory that you, that you have, it's hard to really pinpoint, but I just remember like being in pre-K and I think the seasons were changing and it was like, wow, that's a really young memory.

No, that's what I'm saying.

I just remember sitting in class.

It was like becoming spring and I was wearing a dress and I just remember feeling odd

and feeling like this dress wasn't like the right thing to be wearing.

Why the fuck were you wearing a dress?

It's like I was at school being cute.

In pre-K, you wore a dress just

kids wear like onesies, I thought.

No, no, no.

Like, I was just wearing a cute dress.

That is so.

And I just remember thinking, like, it's a little hot for this dress.

No, you had like swamp ass from the dress.

Jubrub.

I don't remember that.

Okay, wait.

I think I remember my first memory, and it involves you, obviously.

Obviously.

So I do have a distinct memory of us.

And tell me if I'm making this up because you know.

And also, sometimes memory, like the idea of memory is just so complex.

But also, sometimes someone tells you a story and then you think that it was your memory, but it's someone telling you a story.

Literally, over this weekend, I heard Ben telling someone a story and I literally turned to him and I'm like, that's my fucking story.

Like that literally happened to me.

And I'm like,

I feel like I shouldn't have called him out because I kind of embarrassed him.

But like, I couldn't.

And here you are embarrassing him.

I heard him telling a story.

I'm like, that lit, and it wasn't even that long ago.

It was like one year ago.

I'm like, that's my fucking story.

I think that sometimes memory can like, can do that.

But it's also like a cool story.

I think he was just trying to like steal my story.

Oh, yeah.

Just let him have it.

But what's your first memory?

So we had just had breakfast and we were getting ready for school and we started spinning.

Oh, I know.

I have this memory.

And you peed in your pants.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

That's the normal thing.

To get ready for school, have breakfast.

And then start spinning.

We were like doing like circles to see who could get the dizziest and we were laughing so hard because we were just so funny.

We were somebody and Jackie peed and then she had to get driven to school separately.

Yeah, because I didn't make the bus because I peed my pants.

Just one more thing I wanted to talk about that I didn't

expect to happen, you know.

And I feel like a lot more people should be talking about this because what I really experienced on my trip, like, you know, socializing with not a lot of people, of course, but just people for the first time, was my social anxiety is off the chain.

Like, I woke up every morning being like, what did I do last night?

And I didn't even do anything crazy.

Like, we sat on the beach.

Like, it's just, I didn't expect that to be a side effect of the pandemic, but I just want to warn everyone, like, when you start to slowly like emerge back into social scenes with.

like not your just immediate circle like i don't give a shit what my immediate circle thinks about me like they're my immediate circle but just like your your social it will it will shake you.

Like it's not, we're not used to it.

Well, I think also social anxiety, like that sort of, what you're describing also comes from drinking.

Yes, like hangover anxiety.

Yeah, but I feel like before the pandemic, like a lot of us had managed like that, that delicate balance of like drinking, having fun, but, and the moral hangover that comes after it.

But I have found that like now being in social settings, like my social skills are just off.

Yeah, and like people are talking and I'm like, I just don't care what you're saying.

Yeah.

I think I had that before.

Yeah, but and I think I was always awkward.

So no, you're not awkward.

You're just like not super forward.

Yeah, but I do like I'm I feel hyper aware of my social skills.

I'm like But you know it's cool.

It's like so does everyone else like everyone is just doing their best right like everyone comes back from the day and they're like my social skills were weird not oh Jackie's was being weird.

You know everyone is now like obsessed with like how weird they were.

Yeah, how they came off.

Yeah, I think we're fine.

Yeah, I think we're fine too.

Hopefully.

No, everyone's talking about us.

Okay, I think we should get into everything because we have a lot to discuss today.

And we have a fabulous interview at the end of the show with Jasmine Sanders, aka the Golden Barbie, who is in this year's edition of Sports Illustrated, as she was on the cover last year.

She's an icon and a queen.

The episode is podcast only.

So if you're watching on YouTube, at the end of the episode, just head over to the podcast because we recorded with her via Zoom, and she was still looking like sickeningly, stunningly beautiful and golden.

100%.

So you think?

So I think without further ado, it is time for the fast five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast.

Do I sound hoarse?

You do.

Okay, yeah, I don't know why.

I just like feel hoarse.

I was actually going to mention it, but then we just, you know, went on a million tangents.

You're very sticky shoes today.

Must

sticky, sticky shows.

Wow, that was good.

Yeah.

Yeah, I don't know why.

I feel fine, but just.

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Okay, first story: Grammys 2021 recap.

We will get to all of the winners.

Let's talk about the highlights.

How much did you watch?

I watched pretty much the whole thing.

From start to finish?

I was about 20 minutes late, but I did catch up.

Oh, so, but you watched those?

Entirely, yes.

Okay, got it.

I like, I was feeling really conflicted because I know I said I wasn't gonna watch it, but then I was just like sitting on my bed.

It was like 7:55.

And I was like, I'll turn it on just because, like, it is the Grammys and we do host a pop culture show, and it seems like the thing I should watch.

Yes, I know that you and I, we take this like hard stance on award shows,

not always, but especially in the last year, because they have a way of feeling so out of touch in so many ways, even though they spend so much time, like airtime during the award show, like talking about the pandemic, talking about the healthcare workers, how hard this year has been.

Just something about it feels like people are literally struggling so hard to put food on the table.

I'm like, I just don't care that Laura Dern is wearing Oscar DeLorenta.

Like, I agree.

Like, that's what we've been saying a lot of this year.

And I've always felt

just like not the most excited person about award shows, especially this year.

But I've always felt like the Grammys, if I can watch one, it is the Grammys because there's performances.

And I do think that, like, music is so important, especially in difficult times.

Like, I have turned to music so many times this year, and it's gotten me through a lot of times.

So, I don't want to punish the music.

No, and I generally feel like I actually really love music award shows.

Like, I would watch like the people's music, whatever, like American Music Awards.

I just love, like, I happen to be such a big fan of so many popular music artists in pop music, in country music.

So I don't have that same detest.

Like I look at the Oscars and the Golden Globes.

I'm like, you fucking snobs.

Like I can't relate to these people at all.

And I just like, I have this like hatred for everyone who acts.

I don't have that for the music industry.

And I think it's because, first of all, right exactly what you just said.

Even in the toughest of times, like this year, music has been so helpful.

Like sad music, happy music, rain on me, literally save the year.

Like I don't feel that way about the Grammys and I actually think part of what's so frustrating about the Golden Globes is the same fucking four people every year.

It's like change it up.

No, and it's like we spend so much of our year watching TV and like the things that we watch aren't being talked about.

Like where's, you know, Real House Size of New York on the Golden Globes red carpet?

100%.

So I feel like music really nails.

It's so diverse in its genres and its people.

There's so many different artists.

There's Latin artists.

Like there's just so much.

And it feels really representative of the world we live in.

Whereas, like, the Golden Globes, I'm like, what world are you guys living in?

Yes, I totally agree.

So, for that reason, I gave the Grammys a chance.

I watched the opening, like, the first chunk until commercials, I think, and there were performances by Harry Styles, Billie Eilish, and Heim.

And I just like, don't want to be super negative.

No, that's okay.

That's usually my job.

And I'm going to be positive.

So let's switch it up.

But then I had to turn it off.

Yeah.

And then Zach was watching it.

So I caught,

I caught Debaby, Bruno Mars, Taylor Swift, and Dua Lippa.

And I loved all four of those performances.

And I was like, I'm leaving on a high.

So overall, I'm like neutral.

And then I heard really good things about like the rest of the show.

I just felt like the opening was like a really bad start.

Let's just start from the top.

Like let's go through all the performances and then all the winners.

Harry Styles.

Okay, I know you said we were talking about this before.

You said it felt like a cover band.

No, so I think Harry Styles is beyond fabulous.

So talented.

Absolutely love his music.

Love the song Watermelon Sugar.

Who doesn't?

I felt like the performance was like kind of lackluster.

It felt like someone doing like a talent show at high school doing a really good job, but like that's how we're gonna open the Grammys.

I just wasn't, I wasn't totally impressed.

No, I couldn't disagree less.

Like the lack of shirt, I don't know like how you could say that was a talent show.

And the boa and the like it was, it was gorgeous.

Like, I don't think I've ever seen Harry Styles' belly.

Like, it was everything.

And he literally said, I want your belly.

And then his belly was out.

Like, that is fucking lyrical artistry genius.

Is it?

Yes.

Yes, it is.

Okay.

Agree to disagree.

Okay, but I'm with you on HAME.

Like, that was, I thought it was a really good placement.

Like, you know what I mean?

Like, that's a great time slot.

And

I think I've said this before.

I should adore HAME.

And I just don't.

Friends of Taylor Swift, Jewish Sisters.

Jewish sisters.

Like, oh, my God.

Us.

Like.

No.

No.

Except that one song that they first gave me.

Maguire.

Sickening.

Love that song.

Yep.

They haven't done it for me since then.

And I did like their coordinating Prada outfits, but I'm like, they're just so like quirky, you know?

And I'm like, it just wasn't for me.

It was not for me.

And Billie Eilish was in between Harry Styles and Hame.

And the thing is, is that I just don't think I am meant to be like Billie Eilish's number one fan in terms of like my demographic.

I think she speaks for a lot of young people.

I respect her a lot, and I think she's extremely talented, but she's just not my personal vibe.

Is that what I'm going to say?

yeah, I think that's fair to say.

Okay.

Okay, so then what happened after?

Can we just get a list of the performers so we could just like compliment because the best ones were Dua Lipa like, oh my god,

what a star.

Star.

Every time I see her perform, I'm reminded of like how incredibly talented she is.

Her music is not only stellar, like she's literally, if she tried desperately to release a bad song, she couldn't.

But when she performs, she comes to life.

She's such a good dancer.

She's such a good live performer.

Her voice is so good.

Her outfits were so sickening.

Chris Appleton did her hair and you could just tell like her hair was sickening.

Her red carpet, Cher, butterfly,

she got a 10 out of 10 on every level.

And as the awards went by, like she kept not winning them.

And I was surprised.

She did end up winning one and I was happy for her.

I was happy for her too.

Cody Rigsby really campaigned for her to win album of the year.

It wasn't going to happen.

I know,

but I think she had like a really good chance and I would have been happy if she had won.

I'm obviously so happy that Taylor won.

There was literally no way that any other album, and and I'm not just like a delusional Taylor fan.

Even though I absolutely lived for Dua Lipa's music this year and like some of like physical and Don't Star Now are some of the best songs of all time.

Yeah.

I actually don't think I ever listened.

Actually in the beginning like once or twice I listened to Future Nostalgia from start to finish.

And like

yeah, but that was it.

No, and it's like but I listened to folklore from start to finish all the time.

Countless times.

I did it this morning while doing my hair and makeup.

Like and I think that it's just and I'm not just saying this as a delusional Taylor Swift fan, which I am.

I'm not denying that.

But I think so many people, whether they're Taylor Swift fans or not, like leaned on that album so heavily.

Like it came out at the worst time for everyone, like for whatever different reason, whether you were struggling like emotionally, financially, mentally.

Like that album literally like cured coronavirus.

Like it just, it didn't cure coronavirus.

It cured quarantine.

Like it made quarantine bearable.

It gave us something to live for.

And not to put down any of the other albums, but like album of the year represents the year.

Folklore was this year.

I'm not arguing with you.

No, just in case there's anything else.

Cody didn't understand.

Cody would.

And it was a good album.

Not putting it down.

I don't think Cody loves Taylor Swift, but also they don't play Taylor Swift on Peloton.

I don't think he relates to her music.

So we'll never know.

He's never had to discuss her.

We'll find out.

We'll find out.

Okay.

Black Puma's performed.

Doja Cat.

Doja Cat's outfit was really, really brave.

Yeah, no, it wasn't good.

But her performance, she always impresses me.

I'm like, oh, yeah, she is really good because her music is good, but she's like a Dua Lipa.

Like the singing, the dancing on fleek, like she was great.

Yeah.

Post Malone.

I love Post Malone, and just like the fact that there was a very small gathering of people on that roof, kind of how they did at the CMAs, and we kept getting panned to people who were just like watching the performances, which is my favorite part of award shows, was great.

He was giving me like the best reactions to other people's performances, and his performance was excellent too.

And I feel like I know she's

like not technically single, but I think him and Cardi B would be a really cute couple.

Oh, cute.

Also, when they had like their little, you know, gym auditorium of performances, and you saw like the other people in the background, um, it was an interesting

addition.

Yeah, it's just like they had to be on the whole time, right?

Which is hard.

Yeah.

Um, Megan Thee Stallion.

Okay, unbelievable.

Like, unbelievable.

Like,

nobody worked harder at the Grammys than Megan Thee Stallion.

Like, nobody.

It was such a good performance.

And then when Cardi came out in that big bed, it was everything.

Everything.

Okay, I have to watch that one.

Oh, you didn't see it?

Oh.

No, I didn't see it.

I said the ones that I did see.

It was so sickening.

Like literally just they were working and they did WAP.

They did body yada yadi.

They did

a little, I think they did a little savage.

It was like a medley.

It was unbelievable.

And they had this huge bed constructed and it was just like so sickening.

And then like Trevor Noah came out and like was making really bad jokes.

And I have something to say about Trevor Noah.

I've seen a lot of people critiquing him and he started to annoy me.

And then it occurred to me, it's like even the best host in the world always becomes annoying at some point in the night.

And I actually think Trevor Noah like did a really good job of keeping the annoyances down.

To a minimum.

But his peak annoying was when he came out on stage to Cardi B when she was done and like being like, This is my dream.

Like, he was being so annoying.

I'm like, Trevor, like, just cut to commercial.

Yeah, okay, that's fair.

Um, John Mayer and Marin Morris.

It was really cute.

I loved it.

I was waiting for John Mayer to um sing, but he just played guitar, which like we love, but like, come on.

Oh, I didn't realize.

Okay, so let me know what that sounds like.

Um,

Taylor Swift.

There's so much to unpack.

First of all, let's start with the song Selects.

We got

Cardigan, which isn't my favorite song, but I think it really showcases how talented Taylor is in terms of like lyrical.

I knew you'd haunt all of my what-ifs, like just like all these beautiful soliloquies.

Then she gets up off the grass and she's sitting on top of a house and she sings August, which of the two albums she released this year, I would say August is probably my favorite song.

And the fact that she...

Peace.

Oh, but see, I don't want to listen to Peace just like anywhere.

Like, I would listen to August, like, on a plane, a train, and autumn.

Like, I would listen to Peace is reserved.

So, August, yes, I stand by what I said.

August is so good.

And the fact that she played it means like she knows that it's like, you know, my song.

Then I'm like, oh, wow, that was so great.

Then she goes into an Evermore song, Willow, which is.

My fucking favorite song on that album.

And Aaron Destiner, the lights come on, Aaron Dessner, Jack Antonoff, they're in front.

She's with her dress.

You realize like the house they're in, really, I think it was meant to resemble Lily Pond Studios.

Yes, that would have cooled.

it was,

I don't think it was Lily Pond.

Pond,

Pond,

Pondery Place, Taylor Swift Pond, Long Pond Studios,

and it was just like beautifully metaphorical and wonderful.

And she looked gorgeous, and the songs were gorgeous.

She sounded gorgeous.

It was a 10 out of fucking 10.

Yes, I loved the set.

It looked like a storybook.

I felt like that was a great use of, you know, the auditorium situation.

And

it was clear that it could be done.

Yeah, it could be done.

Also, before her was Bruno Mars and Anderson Pock, Sil Sonic.

Now that.

That was my number one performance of the night.

It was stellar.

It was so fucking good.

That song, we haven't had a chance to recap the first song that came out, Leave the Door Open, and it's so amazing.

He just nails that aesthetic.

Like, he has this idea and the way that it comes to life.

Like, I knew like with the outfits and the dancers and the microphones and the song, it was just really so like beautifully disco-y.

Yes, it was.

I love him.

So good.

I'm so excited for the album they're putting out.

And it was such a treat to have him back on the Grammys stage, like in the mix.

Where he should be.

Where he should be.

He took a break.

I'm happy for him.

Sometimes self-care looks like taking a break, but sometimes it looks like coming back to the Grammys and giving the people what they want.

I couldn't agree more.

So well said.

De Baby and Roddy Rich.

Okay.

Unbelievable.

Unbelievable.

When those old women, like who were in the choir, were like

choiring, like making gospel, it was so.

They were always like dancing.

Yes, they were giving me life.

I thought it was such an interesting way to perform a song that we've heard so many times.

And I had so much respect for the ingenuity.

Like, he just, he literally turned a rap song into like a

gospel soul song.

It was so genius.

I loved it.

Yeah.

Did Justin Bieber perform?

No.

Oh, I'm going through the list of nominees.

Did Lady Gaga or Aranagrande?

No.

Beyonce?

No.

No, but she gave us so much life in, oh, oh, I forgot you didn't watch.

Okay.

So her and Megan the Stallion won, I forget what the category was, but obviously, hips, tick-tock, when I dance, that song.

Yes, of course.

And

like Beyonce let Meg like make the whole speech.

Megan was like freaking out that she was on stage with Beyonce.

And as

this,

as she was, like, the stage was ending, Trevor Noah, of course, like, pops in and he's like,

By the way, like, history has just been made.

Um, Beyonce is now tied with, uh, he didn't say who it was, but I read up, it's Allison Krauss, um, for the most female awarded Grammy artist of all time, which was, like, crazy, but it did give me like a little flashback to like Kanye VMA, like, because it was, like, really, like, Meg's moment, and Beyonce was like really letting Meg have the moment.

Like, Beyonce said two words at the end, and Beyonce felt like she made the same face that she made, like, when Kanye interrupted Taylor Swift at the VMAs, but it ended up being fine.

I think maybe I was the only one who felt that way.

And then Beyonce won another

award like two seconds later, thus making her, they said on air, the most awarded artist.

And then I saw the Recording Academy on Twitter like kind of clarified female artists.

Oh, I was seeing most awarded artists.

That's what they said on the TV.

That's why I was confused.

Okay, still amazing.

No, it was cool to watch in real time.

And Megan Thee Stallion and Beyonce, I would encourage you to watch on YouTube.

Like the two of them standing there, like Megan Thee Stallion, like, freaking the fuck out.

She's like, when I grew up, like, everyone around me knows, like, all I wanted to be was Beyonce.

And, like, I literally became the ratchet Beyonce.

And it's, like, been the biggest dream of my life.

It was just, like, a great moment for women.

Wow, that's amazing.

Okay, I'm going to go through all the winners now.

Share your thoughts if you have any.

I pretty much thought, I pretty much agreed with all the winners.

Like, okay, record of the year was Billie Eilish, Everything I Wanted.

Except that one.

I'm going to disagree.

Yeah.

Album of the Year, folklore, Taylor Swift.

Fantastic.

I heard like you really weren't feeling that one.

No, I was, I mean, I just like knew it.

You know, it's hard being like Raven Simone.

No, and I'm so happy for Taylor, especially after like having watched Miss Maricana and the snub for a reputation.

We know how important it is to her.

When she was singing in her song, like I Come Back Stronger Than a 90s trend, I felt like she was talking to the Academy.

The Grammys, yeah.

Yeah.

And when she made her speech, she was like, thank you so much.

Like, I'll never forget that you did this for me.

Like, she, certain artists don't care about the Grammys.

Taylor has made it very, very clear.

Like, Album of the Year and just the Grammys in general is something she really values.

Yeah.

Song of the Year was I Can't Breathe by her.

Yes.

Best New Artist, Megan Stallion.

I agreed with, but who else was nominated?

A lot of nominees.

Ingrid Andres, Phoebe Bridgers, Chica, Noah Cyrus, D.

Smoke, Doja Cat, Kate Tranada.

I think Megan the Stallion

is the clear winner.

Now I'm remembering when I found out Noah Cyrus is nominated in the same category as Megan Stallion and I was like pretty much shook and I'm just feeling that all over again.

Yes.

Best Music Video, Brown Skinned Girl, Beyonce, Blue Ivy, Carter, and Wiz Kid.

Oh, yes.

Blue Ivy now has a Grammy.

Happy for her.

Best pop duo group performance, Rain on Me, Lady Yaga, and Ariana Grande.

100% well deserved.

Best pop solo performance, Watermelon Sugar, Harry Styles, which I think is a big deal, like considering when you remember like Harry Styles came from One Direction, a band whose music was very popular, but never Grammys movie.

And like considering all the other songs nominated too in that category, it was a hard category.

It was.

How is BTS's performance?

That's something I have to.

They sang Dynamite.

They literally, the Grammys like uses BTS for ratings because it was the last thing.

It was after Album.

Always do that.

Oh, every award show uses BTS, but my God, I was like,

it was so good.

And I was like dancing in my bed, and Ben was like trying to go to sleep.

And I was just trying to explain to him like the production value.

I'm like, these kids, like, the dancing was, it was better.

It was the same.

It's like all their performances.

Like, and this one wasn't any different, but it was just like 10 out of 10 dancing.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

And it was like gorgeous, you know hollywood lights like i don't i think they were in korea yeah they were in seoul yeah but it was still like they were on top of they were like in a studio and then they walk up the stairs and they're like on top of a building there's like fireworks it was just hollywood glamour like five stars they are really showman and

These days we don't get that a lot.

A lot of things are like stripped down.

They reminded me as I was watching them like they are like Bruno Mars.

Like the way they have this

like

they make like the

show like a priority like yes they're show elements showmen yeah they are the greatest showmen they are the greatest showmen and i was actually really surprised that dynamite did not win anything like it really was like a song of the year i agree and i think it's really hurtful i agree and the bts army was fucking twisted up on twitter i know because they were so excited that they were nominated and it was a big deal for them to be nominated but i do think that dynamite like is one of those songs that cured the year.

It reminds me of like and I keep I don't know why I keep comparing them to Bruno Mars, but it was like a 24 karat magic like it was just song that just like snuck up on us that I was like damn this song is so fucking good.

Yes, agreed best pop vocal album went to future nostalgia by dua Lippa and I feel as though she deserved that in the pop category.

Yes, I agree and it also feels like a lot of these people who were nominated in many categories won at least yes.

I don't know anyone that didn't win anything except Haim, I think.

And did Justin Bieber win anything?

No, but he also like denounced the Grammys on his story, remember?

That's true.

And also they they announced so many before the show and

oh he won with Dan and Che for 10,000 hours.

That I feel as though is deserved.

I love that song.

Yeah, and then all of the different genres, rock, country, etc.

Yeah, the country category I thought was really, really interesting.

Miranda Lambert won, and I do feel, I've made like such a 180 on Miranda Lambert.

Like I respect the fuck out of her, and her album Wild Card is so good, and I thought she deserved to win, even though I was really gunning for Ashley McBride because I love her so much.

But you know, it was all women in the category.

There was no woman.

I know.

You know what's so interesting.

Sorry to cut you off again.

I feel like in country award shows, like, the men are always winning.

And it's like the Jason Aldean, Luke Bryan, like they're kind of like, they all do the same thing.

I don't include Luke Combs in that category.

I think he's a really unique artist.

But like the big, like...

Jason Aldean, Luke Bryan, Blake Shelton, like they all have the same three songs and they like share them.

And it's like not real music.

And I think they are always like winning.

Whereas like the women in country music are putting out like heartfelt lyrical masterpieces.

And I'm so glad the Grammys respected the women in country because in my opinion, they released better music.

Yeah,

I think that's a really good point.

I think Miranda Lambert, I'm so happy that she won.

I think her album was great.

My personal country album of the year though was

me too, but I

know actually, I stand by Ashley McBride.

I know I'm new on the Ashley McBride ship, but like we are fully built, ready to go.

Love to see it.

Love to see a new ship.

Speaking of ships, let's segue into our next story.

A little relationship news, very confusing.

On Friday, Page 6 announced that J-Lo and A-Rod broke off the engagement.

And then everyone else said, no, they didn't.

And now J-Lo and A-Rod are saying, no, we didn't.

They're saying we're working through stuff.

Yeah, they say they love each other and want to work on their relationship.

A-Rod told TMZ that he is not single.

And J-Lo put out a TikTok video that was so sickening.

Did you see the video?

Okay, she put out a TikTok that it's all about like her being fabulous, like montage sort of.

And it references the split.

She posts all the headlines and then was like, said something.

What did she say?

Something like, oh, wow, good for her.

I live for a TikTok clarification.

Yeah, she just watch it.

She debunked.

Good for her.

I actually just recently followed JLo on TikTok, so I'm actually surprised I didn't see her content.

Yeah, it's a really good TikTok video, and she's also letting us know.

And

I don't know.

I mean, when we heard the news that they were splits, Bill.

Okay, here we are.

Oh, she's going to watch the video.

This,

yes.

oh wow.

She's such a queen.

I don't want to get demonetized, but love that for her.

Yes, so they're still together, apparently.

They obviously have problems.

Like, we've all been alive and well in the last six months.

Like, there's a lot going on there.

There is a lot going on.

So, just Madison LaCroix, like, taking down a Hollywood couple.

I was like ready for it to be over for them.

And I, because I just think he's so unworthy.

I agree.

But now they're still together, so never mind.

I'm like upset by this whole thing because I think of them as a couple I was so

invested in.

Like, I thought that these two people, like, the fact that they haven't been married for 50 years, like, makes no sense.

Like, they're perfect for each other in a million different ways.

And then, over the last year, I've just heard all these things about him like fucking around on J-Lo.

Obviously, the Madison LaCroix one is very public, but there's a couple headlines like random playmates, different models coming out saying they FaceTime, they like have phone sex with him.

And I'm like, you're really going to disrespect J-Lo like that?

Like, who the fuck do you think you are?

Like,

are you kidding?

I'm just it's disgusting.

It is, she's everything of the sort, and I feel like the events of the last few months have made me realize like he's kind of nothing of the sort.

No, and I went from like idolizing him as like an athlete, a businessman, and as a businessman beau to literally, like, thinking so low of him, like, you're gonna fuck around on J-Lo?

Like, who on God's green diddly-dally earth do you think you are?

Yeah, to fuck around on J-Lo.

That's just not it.

No, it's not it.

And disgusting.

Who who knows how, what happens from here, but they're together, so we'll respect it.

I do feel like it's probably like the beginning of the end.

Yeah, but I don't know.

I feel like why would she renege?

Like, why she's like,

because once it's over, like, everyone's going to take her side, obviously.

It takes time.

Maybe they're not like officially over right now, but like, this is the first break, and I think it's just the beginning.

They could possibly still be together, but like an independent, fierce woman like J-Lo, like, she just can't get over things like this.

Like, it's, it's unforgivable.

I agree.

So,

there's nothing to say anymore.

The story was they broke up, and then the story was that they didn't.

Yeah, this is giving me, like, um, Lily Reinhart Kohlespraus vibes.

Like, everyone reported that they broke up, and then they literally tweeted, like, no, we didn't.

But then eventually they did.

See?

Yeah.

Okay, our next story: back to award shows.

The Oscar nominations are here.

They were announced by Nick Jonas and Priyanka Chopra.

See, this is actually like what makes me roll my eyes.

Like, the Oscars.

Yeah, so let's just go through the big categories.

If you feel strongly or or want to make a prediction, let me know.

I've only seen, I think, for movies that are Oscar worthy, I've only seen Promising Young Women, which was excellent.

Oh, was it?

Okay, well, it's nominated for Best Picture, along with Nomad Land, which, from what I've heard, is like a best picture.

Okay.

The Trial of the Chicago 7, also heard really good things.

Minari, Sound of Metal, The Father, Judas and the Black Messiah, and Mank.

I heard Judas and the Black Messiah was fire.

Actress in a leading role.

Frances McDorman, Nomad Land, Vanessa Kirby, pieces of a woman.

Carrie Mulligan, promising young woman.

Oh, I didn't realize that she was in it, and you were still able to watch it?

Okay, so did we talk about it on the podcast?

I don't think so.

I think we did.

I think actually you might be having amnesia because I said

she like looked so weird in the movie.

Like, because what do you think?

When you think of Carrie Mulligan, what do you think?

Pixie cut.

Daisy.

Great cats.

Yeah.

She looks like Britney Spears, like the whole movie.

She had like long blonde hair and like just couldn't see her as any, like, it was so confusing to watch her, but she was very good.

Okay, that's good to know.

Viola Davis, marini's black bottom and andre day the united states versus billie holiday andre day is a shoo-in in my opinion and then actor in a leading role chadwick boseman is nominated for marini's black bottom anthony hopkins the father riz ahmed sound of metal gary oldman mank steve yoon minari um that'd be like really beautiful if chadwick boseman won yeah that would be really beautiful a posthumous um awesome yeah

actress in a supporting role are you still interested oh i'm not paying attention anymore.

I know.

I just haven't heard of any of these movies.

Guys, I really haven't seen or even some of the, some of them I heard of, didn't see.

Yeah.

Some of them I have not heard of.

No, me too.

So I think...

And that's crazy because we literally talk about pop culture full time.

That's just what I'm saying.

Like these movies, like movies used to be, like, do you remember the year when like

there used to be a time when like you would see maybe it's because theaters like aren't open this year, but where you would see like five out of five, like you saw Slum Dog Millionaire, like you saw all of that.

But also it's like theaters weren't open this year, but we all spent the whole year watching movies and television from home.

So

I don't know.

No, I guess like trolls didn't get nominated.

I guess it was the movie of the year.

I guess it didn't.

I guess the holiday didn't get nominated.

I guess the king of Staten Island didn't either, which is shocking.

The only other category that I am always interested in is the original song.

Oh, yeah, me too.

Husevik from Eurovision Song Contest.

Oh, actually,

I do believe I came on here and like ripped to shreds that movie Eurovision.

You did.

It was a piece of shit, but the music was fucking amazing.

Okay.

Like, so I was shocked.

Okay, that's, that's positive.

Yeah.

Also, Fight for You from Judas and the Black Messiah, Lo C from The Life Ahead, Speak Now by Taylor Swift from One Night in Niami, and Hear My Voice from The Trial of the Chicago 7.

You know, I feel like this is the first time in a while that an animated movie song didn't get nominated.

I'm going to listen to the music because I actually enjoy that.

Yeah, that's always one of my personal favorite categories.

Did you say Cynthia Rivo is one of the singers?

Oh, I didn't say who sings the songs.

Are you sure?

I thought you just said that.

I said the movie it's from.

Oh, oh, oh.

Well, if Cynthia Rivo is going to perform, like, then I'll tune into the Oscars because she's something to say.

Yes.

Well, when are the Oscars?

Who cares?

I guess I would be on the iPad.

I would know.

April 25th.

I would just like to know if our listeners, like, do you also hate the Oscars?

You know what?

That is such a great question.

Like, do you want us to be watching these things?

Is it important to you?

Because, like, I'll do it for you, but just know, like, I would literally rather die than watch the Oscars this year.

I agree.

Like, I will do it if everyone says, please, we need your recap.

Like, I will do it.

That's what we do.

But if you guys feel as we do and like, we just don't care about these things right now, let us know.

Yeah.

I've just never really, like, I think it just, over the last few years, I've just become like...

over movies.

I know that sounds crazy.

I'm just so much more of like a TV show girly now because it used to be like movies were so much better than TV.

Now it's like TV is where you want to be.

And also like to be in a show or a limited series on a streaming service like is extremely prestigious.

Yeah, it used to be like no one wanted to be on TV.

Right.

It was like the small screen.

Yes, the big screen.

But when everything is on your TV at home, it's all the same.

And also like the doing a series, like I think of like Queen's Gambit, like that is a movie that was done episodically.

Right.

I wouldn't be surprised if like in a few years like Leonardo DiCaprio does like a short series, mini series on Netflix.

Like it's prestigious now.

And it's the Golden Globes for me, like, I don't live for, but they are, to me, a little bit more my speed because they include television.

Yeah, I agree.

I just think that the way it's categorized is starting to become outdated, considering everything that we watch.

Like, even if it's like a series that has three parts, that's a show.

That's not a movie.

But, like,

we're not in these boxes anymore.

No, and honestly, like, The Queen's Gambit is the perfect example because for me, that was like the most amazing thing that came out this year.

And it won't win an Oscar because it's not a movie right technically but it's Oscar worthy I completely agree yeah we should really change their rules I think that at one day they're going to because times are changing times are changing I agree okay speaking of change Chris Harrison speaking of change um

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Great.

So, speaking of change, Chris Harrison has been replaced on The Bachelorette by Tayshia Adams and Caitlin Bristow.

Warner Horizon and ABC Entertainment told Page 6 in a statement on Friday that Caitlin Bristow and Tayshia Adams will co-host the next season of The Bachelorette.

Quote, Chris Harrison will not be hosting the next season of The Bachelorette.

We support Chris and the work that he is committed to doing.

In his absence, former Bachelorettes Tayshia Adams and Caitlin Bristow will support the new Bachelorette through next season.

I mean, that's crazy.

Like, I think that when he had stepped back, I thought it was just like, you know,

like

just to like calm people down and thought maybe it would blow over by the time the new season was ready to start.

But people are really, really fucking unhappy with Chris Harrison.

And I think that people are going to be very pleased with...

Tayshia and Chris, I mean, and Caitlin.

And I think that's actually like such an honor for Tayshia and Caitlin.

Yes, definitely.

It's still unclear, like, like, what's going to happen after this season of the Bachelorette?

Like, for next bachelor,

it's possible that Chris comes back, or do they bring in two former bachelor contestants who are men to support the male league?

Or maybe, like, Caitlin and Tayshia are so universally beloved, like, this becomes they're the new Chris Harrison.

So, maybe it's a trial, but also, and I'm so excited for it to be Caitlin and Tisha.

I think both of them are perfect choices, but like the fact that it's like it takes two women to do the job that they find that hard.

No, but like, why couldn't, I mean, I'm happy to have both of them but like why does it take two of them yeah if chris harrison could do it alone i know and also like i mean i think i can at least speak for caitlin like caitlin is a professional host like she hosts her own podcast it's super successful i don't think there's a doubt that she could do the job or tatsha right but when i first read this statement i didn't they maybe that it's just the way that they framed it they'll be there to support the lead like they'll have like girl chats and stuff and like off-camera not necessarily like be hosting like are they gonna come in and say this is the final rose like we fucking know it's the final rose so maybe well that's true like Chris Harrison's job like like the show could go on without it it's like thank you Chris Harrison we know how to count yeah um

and actually that's a good point kind of how like Jojo did when she filled in for Chris Harrison yes she was there like for emotional support but she didn't pop in and be like this is the final rose because like it's literally self-explanatory right so I think maybe that will just go regardless but I think it will it I don't know if they're stepping into Chris Harrison's shoes exactly or they're going to change up the format of like what it means to be the host of the show,

I'm just like here for in general yeah I mean I'm intrigued because I love Caitlin and I love Tayshia but I do feel like and I know I've I sound like a broken record I've said this a hundred times I do believe after tonight like I'm done yeah it's been a journey tonight is the is tonight is the final rose you guys and it's the finale and after the final rose tonight right yes but i'll tell you who is happy about this the truckers for tatia yes they are going ham you guys they've lost their minds they're so excited and i'm excited for them me too um i'm just like i feel maybe i'm curious if other people feel this way like i'm so fatigued by the bachelor franchise just like they've really put us through a lot this year and like i'm just kind of over it i'm really curious to see how this season ends up now i feel like we've finally caught up with real life like watching these dates that i know were filmed six months ago when so much has happened in the last month so i'm looking forward to tonight seeing like i do believe rachel wins i do believe

Maybe they are still together.

I don't know how they could be after all this, but I'm curious to get an update and to actually hear from Rachel Kirkonne.

But after that, like, I think I'm just done.

Like, it's so exhausting.

I think a lot of people feel that way.

So that's okay.

And we'll see, do they announce a new bachelorette tonight?

In past, they have, because usually the bachelorette starts filming in like four days from after the final rose.

I heard a spoiler.

I heard a spoiler too.

And based on the spoiler that I heard, you won't be watching.

Hi, friend, Martha.

Okay, fifth and final story.

Just a little streaming news.

Disney Plus is popping off, and it is forecast to to steal Netflix's crown as the world's biggest streaming firm

by 2024.

So that's just a little caveat.

Okay, and also, like, who knows what could happen?

Like, so much can happen.

Like, we literally, who thought the pandemic was gonna happen, you know?

Right.

Netflix is forecast to lose its crown as the world's biggest video streaming provider within three years.

Maybe that's why Netflix is now like cracking down.

We reported last week on shared family accounts.

Like, you have to start using your own account.

Yes, amid explosive growth at Disney after the launch of its rival on-demand service only 16 months ago.

So we have spent a lot of time here at the Morning Toast chronicling the streaming wars.

The successes, Disney Plus, the failures, Quibby.

Yes, and I think that this is an interesting update, though, like a lot needs to happen in the next three years for this to take hold.

But it's nice to know that Disney Plus is doing so well.

Yeah, I mean, Disney Plus is actually killing it.

And when you think Disney Plus, I'm like, oh, yeah, it's great for kids.

And it's great for like adults who want to watch old episodes of Panama.

But it's actually really kind of nailing it in the music space, like with Black is King,

Long Pond Studios, like they're kind of like hitting a bunch of other categories like I didn't see them succeeding in and stealing like Netflix did a few music specials like Ben Platt or whatever, but they're kind of like killing it in places I didn't think they would kill it in like obviously like cartoons.

Interesting.

Also, I think that like The Mandalorian, I know we don't watch that, like Baby Yoda is so massive for them.

And they had a really like a bunch of really good premieres.

Baby Yoda is so cute.

Camper.

He's camper.

I know know, I kind of want to like kiss him.

No, everybody loves Baby Yoda, and I've, I don't think I'll ever watch the Mandalorian.

No, I know that I won't definitively.

Something would have to go very wrong for me to start watching the Mandalorian, but I think Baby Yoda is someone we can all get behind.

I actually think he's like a camper at heart, and he's so fucking cute.

He's so cute, he needs to be counseled.

I don't know anything about like what is a Mandalorian, what is the TV show about.

All I know is like baby Yoda is so cute.

So cute.

Here's what I think I know, and it makes sense based on the fact that Yoda is a baby.

I actually I don't want to know.

It's a prequel to Star Wars.

So, like, Yoda in the Star Wars is, I think he's a golden eyes.

Yeah.

In the prequel, he's a bebe.

Oh, that's cute.

Yeah, I think that's the concept.

Okay, well, happy for Disney Plus.

Keep killing it.

Maybe we can get like an ever more Long Pond Studios.

I don't know, just an idea.

Throwing it out there.

Maybe we could.

Like, they actually deadass stole Taylor Swift and Beyoncé from Netflix.

Homecoming was on Netflix.

Miss Americana was on Netflix.

Reputation was on Netflix.

I guess they're just paying big bucks to huge stars, and it's working.

That's so true.

And I just wanted to get your thoughts on one more thing because Taylor announced that Lover Fest is canceled.

It's not happening.

I think that makes a lot of sense considering she's put out like two whole new albums since.

And Lover, like, we're done.

Lover, who?

Yeah, we're like done with her.

I just assumed it would be canceled.

Like, this is not news to me.

Right.

No, that wasn't my next question, which was like, so what do you think she's going to do next?

Considering she had this like planned for a festival.

I feel like Evermore and Folkmore like could be a very like fall harvest festival.

Yeah, no, I did, I definitely think we're gonna, we're gonna skip over the lover era and do like a folklore evermore.

I don't know if it'll be like another festival or a concert, a tour.

I think part of the reason why she was doing Lover Fest was back then, which was literally like two years ago now, she was going through a lot and like could not

she was fatigued and also I think her mom's health was

her, I think her cancer had made a return.

So I think she didn't want to spend time away from her mom.

But you know, that was a while ago.

Like maybe things have changed.

Maybe she can go on tour now.

Yeah, that's a good point.

So I would live maybe she's looking forward to tour life.

I would live for like an ever more folklore, like somber ass, like Boni Ver type like cry fest.

Yeah, I think that's what you might be getting.

But I also like, she does stadiums, and I don't know.

I feel like that like concrete isn't the vibe, and I would like a grassy knoll.

I know, but the thing is, say what you want about Taylor Swift, whether you like love her or hate her, she knows how to put on a show.

A showman.

She is like a definition of like her concerts are experiences.

So I think even if it is like a more low-key vibe, she will make it a sensation.

She'll cultivate the vibe.

But that's like how I felt when I saw Ed Sheeran, like a man and his guitar at MetLife Stadium, like give me a light or something.

Like there was nothing.

It was so boring.

And I like Ed Sheeran, but his concert was not it.

Yeah, I think that she'll definitely get creative considering the vibe of folklore in Evermore.

She'll cultivate that vibe.

Yeah, it'll be good.

I agree.

And I'm like, I love her, like that little trio of Aaron Destiner.

He's like so cute.

And I don't know if he's ever won a Grammy before, but he was just like so excited.

And like Jack Antonoff, I feel like has won a million Grammys because he produces so many popular albums.

And he didn't even say anything, but Taylor let Aaron Destiner speak first, and he was just like so excited, like thinking his brother and shit.

Like, I was living for it.

Oh, that's really cute.

Yeah.

Okay, well, those are the past five stories.

I feel as though you needed to know them.

I did not watch Real Houses of Atlanta because I was watching the Grammys, but you did watch.

I did watch the last two episodes we haven't recapped yet.

It's the fallout from The Bacherette.

You see the story make its way to page six and in the blogs and everyone speculating on, I mean, there's not even anything to speculate like it was Kenya.

A hundred words.

So she hasn't like admitted it.

But all the girls agree?

Yeah.

It's not like a huge point.

It's just like it was Kenya.

Fact.

You know, and it's like, we're not even going to debate it.

And I feel like for Kenya, she was trying to, you know,

get Portia to engage in this conversation.

And Porsche's...

Portia's strategy at the end of the party and going forward has just been to like not even respond to Kenya.

It's not that much.

And that didn't work for Kenya.

So Kenya took it to the press, to a place so that Portia had to address it at some point.

She still hasn't really.

There was a...

It's nobody's fucking business.

The cameras were off.

She's a single woman.

Leave her alone.

I so agree.

Kenya just is so

on this.

And then the episode that aired last night was 10, 10, 20, Cynthia and Mike's wedding, which was so stunning.

It was really crazy to watch her wedding, like given...

Like, I just kept thinking back to her wedding to Peter, which we watched when it aired.

And the vibe is just completely different.

And like the way that her sister is just like so here, like they're in this together versus like member at theater stole the license stole the license so it's just like it's beshared the two of them and it was so nice to watch and see and she talks about like getting flack for having a wedding during a pandemic i guess wendy williams had really like gone in on her at the time and it was like having watching it then it's like given what we know everything about this year it's like The wedding just felt even more special that it was like a celebration of such love and like people coming together.

Yeah, I'm not the type of person who's going to shame like if someone invites you to a wedding I'm not going to disagree with them.

If I feel safe, I'll go.

If I don't feel safe, I won't go.

Everyone, it's, we live in a free country.

Do what you want.

But I do think it's interesting how like at the, and I was surprised because I know Kelly Dodd is problematic as fuck, but I was actually surprised she didn't have like a full out wedding, like with like 300 people.

She had a 20-person wedding and like they were giving her shit at the reunion.

So I'm like, I fear for Cynthia, like what they're going to say at the reunion.

And there was like a hurricane coming through, so they had to move the ceremony indoors so it would have been an outdoor wedding but it was an indoor wedding there was a lot of people like i'm sure it will come up at the reunion but i was just really happy for cynthia i know um and she just had like such a long journey and like i do feel like chill is forever forever so i love him It was so, it was such a beautiful thing to behold.

And there weren't cameras in, they didn't go into the wedding.

It was people's like home

iPhones and also Cynthia's like photograph videographer footage, which was also kind of nice because I do feel like sometimes when the cameras are there, they drag everything out.

But so instead, it was just like, these are the need-to-know moments.

Yeah, well, I don't know.

And it felt more intimate.

I actually have been to a televised wedding, Brittany and Jax.

And I have to say, there was like a full camera crew there.

And I feel like they did a really good job of like, they looked like just regular videographers for weddings.

They didn't drag stuff out.

Like everyone was just like, I actually had a lot of respect for like how much they didn't torture Jax and Brittany to like get certain footage.

Yeah, no, but I'm saying like from the viewer perspective,

when they have all this footage, they air all of it.

Sometimes it's even a special and it's like, there's not that much that I care to see.

I just want to see the major moments.

And so,

we were able to be there without being bored by it.

And so we saw the very special moments, and I loved being able to watch it.

So,

that's nice.

It was really nice.

But the night before the wedding, they had a party for the nieces, because I guess Candy and Kenya are bridesmaids, so they were with Cynthia the night before.

So, the aunties were away.

The aunties were away, the nieces will play.

And it was just like crazy.

It actually was such a fun-looking night, but Toy is just so

wishy-washing.

Wishy-washing.

You have to watch the scene.

It's like, what are you trying to say?

Like, it's like she just says a million things, and whichever one, like, someone's going to agree.

Like, that's the road she would go down.

But what does she actually stand for?

I don't know.

Right, because when she was like finally seeing like who Kenya really was in South Carolina, I thought she had finally like turned to the good side.

And then she goes to Kenya's photo shoot and is like apologizing.

I'm like, no, no, you were right.

Yeah, I agree.

That's frustrating.

Yeah.

And then she like starts to air Kenya's, some of her stuff with her husband.

And even the other girls, like, Porsche's like, that's not your place to be telling us this.

No.

So it's like.

She has no idea.

Extreme one way and extreme the other.

It's just, it's extreme.

It's too extreme.

It's so extreme.

So it was really good.

We have a lot of TV to catch up on this week.

Last week, I did not watch anything.

So I'll be watching like everything in threes pretty much, except for The Bachelor, which is on tonight.

Yes.

So we are back on with the TV recaps this week.

I apologize for not watching.

I just couldn't do it.

I understand.

I couldn't either.

I was just in another place

reading, watching period pieces, and it was lovely.

I'm so happy for you.

Yeah, but now I'm back on the grind.

Sometimes self-care looks like hard work, guys.

Yes.

So if you're listening as a podcast, stay tuned for an amazing interview with Jasmine Sanders from the Sports Illustrated swimsuit adjustant.

And that's it.

That's all she wrote.

And she actually wrote a lot today.

So we will see you tomorrow.

Bye.

Jackie and I are so excited for our next guest because not only is she also a bikini model, which is just like a crazy coincidence, Jackie and I have been obsessed with our next guest for so long.

And we are so excited to finally welcome the golden Barbie, Jasmine Sanders, here on the toast.

Hello.

I am so happy to be here, guys.

I don't think you understand.

I literally have been listening to your podcast and I was like, if I can get on here, it would be really fun.

You guys seem like a lot of fun, like in person.

So once this

opens up, we need to hang out.

For sure.

I don't know if you remember.

We actually partied.

I don't know if we could say we partied together, but we partied adjacent to you at Coachella at the Revolve Merv Griffin estate, right, Jackie?

Oh my God, yes, Claudia.

I think you can say it was together because I was like bouncing around the couches in these parties.

Like I'm all over the place.

Wow.

I would have forgotten that, Claude.

Your memory is so good.

And then also there was like an after party.

We did party adjacent to you and it was a highlight.

I love hearing it, but we have to party together now.

Like you guys, we got to go out.

We got to party.

We do.

Well, on Friday, it was just announced that New York City clubs are opening up at 33% capacity.

And that has just been a huge win for us.

And we're really excited.

For us.

I will be very honest.

I'm terrified.

I'm like, I'm still very nervous when I step outside.

So I'm like, I want no parts of larger, larger parties.

I will sacrifice it all to get into a club.

But that's just risk it all.

You have more to lose because you are now again, last year you were on the cover.

Now you're back in Sports Illustrated.

And I have to imagine that even though you're like, you know, an OG now, it's still like super exciting when you get the call and you do the photo shoot.

Like it still feels like it's new.

It definitely still feels like it's new.

I wouldn't, I'm like, I don't consider myself an OG yet.

Like Kate Bach is an OG.

She's done like, what, eight, nine years now?

So I'm like, that's somebody that I consider a vet.

I feel like I'm still earning my spot.

So every time that I come to shoot, I'm just like, I give my all and I will always give my all because it's one, you just have such a great community of so many women.

There are a couple of men on set that help take care of us and stuff as well.

But you have so many empowering women around you.

Like all you do is like sit on set and like ooze confidence.

So it's like really just giving your all that day that you get to shoot and showing everybody why you've been picked.

And I don't know, I've been doing it since I was 13.

And this is something that's always been a goal of mine.

So when I go, I'm like, I'm living out my dream.

I'm living out my dream.

So every year it's, it just gets better and better.

Well, what MJ Day had to say about you, I thought was like so nice.

And I just want to read it really quickly.

She said, Jasmine is one of the most selfless individuals who has fought really hard to get where she is today and doesn't forget or neglect anyone that has helped her along the way.

She shows up on set, ready to work hard, nails every shot, and still possesses a true humbleness that is such a rarity.

And that is just like a rave review.

I love her.

I'm like, don't make me cry on here.

No, but I, she, one, she's a mom to all of us and she takes such good care of all of us, but they create such a space where you feel safe to be yourself.

You don't feel like anyone is going to bash you for the way you look, your size, anything, your hair, your makeup, what, whatever your interests are.

Everybody has their own place.

And it's like, it's one big sorority.

We all have like, we all go through things.

So it's like.

just trying to remind yourself that we're all normal.

And this is, it's kind of my space of really knowing like, I'm able to be myself.

I'm able to rock out.

And I have so many supportive women around me.

So why not be me?

Yeah, I feel like she really allows that.

Like MJ is the best, the best.

I love her to death.

That's so awesome.

What do you think it is about Sports Illustrated?

Like from especially what we see as a consumer, like it's so inclusive and you can, the confidence like radiates from all of the people being featured.

So what do you think that Sports Illustrated does to cultivate that environment that you think that other brands or labels could take from that and incorporate in their space as well?

Well, one, they just embrace it.

Like they embrace everything about us.

They love hearing something that's new and different.

Like they know that I like work on my projects and stuff around the house.

Like I literally like spray painted my own fireplace and like did everything, like I build things all the time.

And I'm like, I do have a boyfriend.

So if I need him to do something, I will.

But like, I'm very hands-on, I'm very much a tomboy, and I'm very independent.

And it's just like, I try to touch so many different things, but this is one client that allows you to do that, allows you to express how you're feeling, whether it's, hey, I want to like dance around on a table and like live my best life, or I want to go to school and I want to tackle this and I want to become a lawyer or a teacher.

there or even just giving us so much access to charities.

Like that was the biggest part for me because a lot of companies don't like partner with charities as much as they do, or don't allow you a hands-on opportunity.

And one of the first things I got to do was go and play soccer with some kids from Best Buddies.

And I was just like, that was the biggest highlight to do that even before being in the pages of the magazine.

So, they really give you an opportunity to find where your lane is and embrace it and shine.

And it doesn't matter if like, like I asked MJ, I was like, look, I'm in love now.

I might get pregnant one of these days, which I'm not.

But I'm just like, if it happens, it happens.

And she's one of those clients that's just like, girl, okay.

And you're going to shoot if you want to shoot.

Like, if you feel good about yourself, then come and shoot.

And it's just like those things now that I'm like, I'm almost 30, I'm getting to a space where it's like, okay, now you have to think of the balance between real life and your job.

And

I don't know.

She just allows so much room for you to be you and

whatever part that may be.

And I love it.

That's so cool.

I'm sorry, girls.

I ramble.

So I'm going to talk to you.

No, so do we.

So do we ignore it?

So you, this year was obviously different for a multitude of reasons, but you shot in Tampa this year with Utsai and we watched Model Squad.

Like we know how legit Utsai is.

So can you tell us like how this was different from past years?

Because I'm sure there was a lot of things you had to do differently.

Well, first off, I have to say, I love Yutsai.

He's amazing to shoot with because he brings something out of you that it's just like, like, you just feel like a lion.

Like, it's, I don't, I don't know what it is.

You feel dangerous, you feel strong, you feel confident, you feel sexy, you feel submissive.

Like, there's all kinds of different feelings that you're able to give out.

And it's just because he's such a good photographer.

I'm terrified of seeing him.

Like when it comes to TV, I'm like, I don't know if I could have done that like those girls, but I'm very blessed to have him on set with me.

Very iconic.

But oh my God,

wind back.

You said, what was the difference?

The difference between

our last two shoots would just have to be the second that I landed.

One, I got tested here in LA before I left.

Then I landed in Tampa and got tested before I even saw anybody.

And I was just like, oh my God, I want to hug the girl.

Like, I haven't seen everybody in so long.

And they're like, no, no, no, there's no contact babe.

Like, we're all going to stay over.

I'm like, thanks.

This is, it's bittersweet.

It was very bittersweet because you do feel like a family.

And I do feel kind of bad for the girls that are rookies this year having to experience it that way because it's a different,

it's just a weird distance that I know no one in Sports Illustrated wants to give, but it's just everyone protecting themselves and being safe.

But it's just everything's a lot smaller,

but the vibe, the energy is still the same, where everybody's just a little more distant and still screaming for you and giving you energy and hyping you up on set.

And then, like, I don't like, I feel like I had better interviews honestly this year because I was able to, I was able to learn about myself this year over everything

um that's gone on and really

give them more of a vulnerable open interview and they also created such a a safe and comforting space for us to like just be open and be fun and we got to do different things um it wasn't as as um group i mean

Let me explain.

So when we go there, we don't, I'm like, sorry, guys.

When we go there, where it's usually you don't see another model.

They book the girls like every other day.

So that way we don't overlap.

So when I got out there, I was like, well, at least I get to hang out with like some of the girls from the crew.

Like we're all friends and family.

Like I wish I could see them and hang out.

But it's like, you have to go in your room and just tuck away.

And then we also shot at Hard Rock.

So it was like being in the casino area and kind of seeing that people were still out and about with their mask on, but like sitting with the glass, it was like, I'll stay in my room.

I would rather just be in my room on FaceTime with my boyfriends, get some good sleep, get a good bath in before and relax.

Yeah, well, not to spoil the interview that you gave, but what do you think is like one of the biggest things that you've learned about yourself this year?

Just...

being able to be more vulnerable and open is okay.

Letting people know that I'm not okay is okay.

I always felt like I had to be the strong one and like

kind of just make sure all of my friends were good, which I still, I was very heavy on doing that and still am very heavy on checking on everyone.

But I had to allow myself to open up when people checked on me.

Instead of just holding everything in and feeling like it wasn't okay to be going through the emotions and the roller coaster when there's so much going on in the world from Black Lives Matter to

all the marches around the world to COVID, like and jobs and people losing their homes and their lives.

And there was just so much up and down.

And then it started to get closer and closer to family.

And I was just like, this is real and it's scary.

And I think it was just a time for me to be like, you know what?

like let me lean on people it's okay to lean on somebody um yeah and i'm a cancer so i'm like I'm a cry baby when I open up.

Oh, for God once you're me too.

July 10th.

June 22nd.

We're going to celebrate.

I see.

Oh, you're like right on the cusp.

The world's going to open up.

You're right on the cusp.

Yeah.

It's, it gets interesting.

I have a couple personalities.

Oh, me too.

And I'm like, this, I'm a stereotypical cancer.

Like, I dish it.

I'm so like mean to everyone.

And then when someone's mean to me, like, I want to cry, like, never leave my house.

Like, how could you?

No, I was just being real.

I wasn't like

bullying you.

I'm just playing around, but you're taking this to another level.

One thing I want to talk about that I feel like Jackie and I have followed you for so long, and it's because your username is so iconic.

Like you literally are the golden Barbie.

So can you tell me how you came up with that?

I will be honest.

I'm not the golden Barbie without my glam team.

because it took a lot to feel and look like a Barbie.

Like I'm literally in sweatpants and Uggs right now and nothing matches in my outfit.

It's great.

But I, I don't know, me and my sister were playing around.

Like it was back in MySpace days.

Like I used to, my email address used to be like life-size Barbie doll.

Like I was obsessed with the Disney movie.

I was just like, I had a tattoo on the bottom of my foot that's numbers.

I don't think anybody really even knows it's there, but it's just like, I saw it on the movie and I was like, this is so cool.

I have to like one day find a meaningful number for me and like get numbers on the bottom of my foot like a Barbie doll.

Oh my God.

I didn't realize.

Yes, I didn't realize you were talking about the most iconic movie all time.

Easy, great.

No mad mad

girls, dresser,

dancing.

I was like, mom

to her toast.

Come on.

It's amazing.

It was everything.

It was my favorite movie.

I watched it nonstop.

But yeah, I don't know.

Me and my sister were playing around trying to find a name for MySpace and Twitter.

And

she was like, well, I don't know.

Like people call you Goldilocks.

They call you a Barbie doll.

Let's like figure it out.

And we put Golden Barbie together.

So I give my sister credit.

She can have it.

She can have all the credit for that.

But it's stuck.

And now I'm like, can I still be a golden Barbie at like 40?

Like, are you guys going to allow it?

Okay.

Cause I feel like I want to rock with it.

Barbie is ageless.

Okay, perfect.

I love it.

I have one last question for you, because I know, like, for me, like when I'm always getting ready for my like bikini shoots,

of course, you have like a regimen that you keep up with, but in COVID, like the gyms being closed, you did that all from home.

Okay, so COVID, I did build a gym in my house.

I partnered up with Dogcom and I'm going to like launch and show, well, not launch because no one's really coming over in my house to use my gym.

But like, it's, I have told my friends that it's like all the gyms have closed down.

So my three friends that stay in my circle all the time, I'm like, if you want to stop by, come in the garage, get your workout on.

Like we have Lysol wipes, everything in there.

Just clean down the area, put your towels in the basket and leave like you would a normal gym.

You're like.

renting the space, but nobody's paying.

And then

membership.

No, I don't think so.

Do you know how it could be a for-profit garage?

That was was one of my biggest like expenses, like being like, oh my God, I'm paying for a gym membership, but then I'm traveling and I'm not even using it.

I was like, screw this.

I need an apartment that has one or I need my

house.

And when I'm in Miami, it's all Anthony.

Like he.

My boyfriend is so insane with his workouts.

They're so good, but it's like, I don't know what he does, but it's manipulated my body into this nice, curvy

situation that I'm dealing with and I'm loving and I'm embracing it.

And

I was like everybody else, I was drinking.

I was having like fun with my friends on Zoom calls and like doing like lunches over Zoom and stuff.

And then I was like, okay, you're starting to gain some weight.

Like, yeah, it's not, it's comfortable, but like whatever.

And I was like, I don't feel healthy though.

Like, I feel like I'm like sluggish.

I get really lazy in the house.

So I was like, look, just like, I need to, I need to start working out with him.

We went to the gym sometimes because they do have things a little more open in Miami.

Still wearing our mask and everything.

But for the most part, I try to work out outdoors.

So when I'm in Miami, my workout partner is Isabella Gretman.

We are like on the tennis courts.

She plays tennis.

I'm horrible, just not coordinated enough at all.

It's really hard.

It's extremely hard.

Like, I can't do it.

I'm just, I know what I'm good at.

But he literally has us running laps around

the tennis court.

He has us jumping rope for 10 minutes for our warmup.

And I'm just like, okay, my heart rate's going.

What are we doing next?

But he knows how to bust your butt in 45 minutes.

Like he's like, look, you don't need to be in the gym for two hours, which is a really big thing for me because I...

I can't give two hours of my time to like literally just be in the gym like messing around.

so i'm like let me do something serious exactly let me like if you're going to torture me let's do this for 45 rooms make it snappy make it happen i'm sweating my butt off i see my body changing and it's just really continuing to do it i still eat whatever i want but like right now i have a green juice with me like i'm always like either green juice in the morning and then kind of having my desserts at night or whatever like i i let my body do what it wants and especially this year i was like embrace it

it truly looks like it's working because it landed you back in sports illustrated congrats like we live for you we support like the golden barbie experience it's a journey and we're just along for the ride and happy to be

I am so happy to be on here.

I cannot thank you guys enough for having me.

And thank you, Sports Illustrated, again.

Another day.

Thursday, Sports Illustrated.

I'm so excited for my shoot.

Everyone, it comes out next week.

So just stay tuned for that.

Send it to me so I can post it.

It's actually like, me and Jasmine didn't want to spoil the surprise, which was cute, but it's actually like a duo, me and Jasmine, like in the ocean.

It's sickening.

I'm going to get it.

It's on embargo.

It's on embargo.

It's okay.

Fine.

Well, congratulations.

Everyone, follow Jasmine on Instagram.

She has the most sickening Instagram at Golden Barbie.

We love to see it.

Thank you so much for being here.

And thanks everyone for listening.