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good morning millennials welcome back to the morning toast happy thursday hope everyone's having an amazing bright and positive filled day here yes it already is because the week is just flying by and this is just one of the best weeks it's one of the best weeks I just can't stress enough how weeks like this really put into perspective how integral a four-day work week is.

It's just such a brilliant concept.

And I think that as a country, we just need to start thinking about it more, start talking about it more, and then maybe start putting it into action even more.

For sure.

But we've had this conversation before and we decided that a four-day work week starts with us.

And

we need to be the change that we wish to see.

No, you're so right.

And so I think that the onus is on us to make that change.

Yeah, no, I hear you.

And I definitely agree.

Like, I just think we get so few of these.

There's like, you know, MLK Day, President's Weekend,

whatever.

There's only so many.

And I can't even name them all.

Are you just going to sit here?

Like Monday.

Tuesday.

And like, honestly.

They're so infrequent, but then when they come up, they're like this little gems.

They are.

And you just really realize like how much better of a balanced life the four to three day ratio is.

so true.

It's sick.

It's sick.

And I'm upset not enough people are talking about it.

I know, but that's why we have to talk about it.

Okay, maybe like we do a weekly segment here,

like just, you know, an update on the

progress.

The campaigning for the four-day work week.

Yeah, I'm just saying, like, if you really want to talk about a four-day work week, like the toast needs to be four days a week.

Otherwise, what are you doing?

Yeah, I know.

But it's hard to be the first person to.

It's hard to be the first person to do anything.

Yeah.

But that's what's being a leader, not a follower.

No, you're right.

You know, it's hard.

It's very challenging.

So that's just something to think about.

We have a great show for you guys today.

Obviously, a bunch of stories, Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, and part one of the OC reunion we're on last night.

Both pretty good, so we will head into that in the TV recap segment.

But before that, we just got, we got lots to talk about.

We do have lots to talk about.

Some personal updates yesterday, Bruno.

Oh.

Haircut.

Oh my God, my haircut.

I put Bruno before myself.

Bruno lost a tooth.

Your true mother.

Bruno lost a tooth yesterday, and it was just so cute.

I left it under his pillow.

Are you going to keep it?

You should put it in like a little box.

I want to get like a little box or something because usually puppies lose their teeth, but they swallow them.

I've never seen one.

Sometimes it like comes out in their food and then they swallow it.

They just swallow it on their own or they like lose it on the street.

So he was having a bully stick on bed last night and I just saw the tooth there and it was just so precious.

So we left it under his pillow.

The tooth fairy came.

She brought him so much kibbal and toys.

That's so cute.

And he's living the life.

That is such.

And by the way, you also like more importantly got a haircut.

More importantly, I got a haircut.

Nothing too crazy, but I'm sure if you're watching on the YouTube, you can really tell the difference.

Let me move my microphone.

So just a lot of layers, took off all the dead ends, just happy and healthy hair.

There's really nothing better than like a perfect trim.

Of course, fun haircuts that are like, you know,

life-changing are important every now and then.

But to keep like your biannual fresh chop trim haircut and being so pleased with it, your fresh layers, your ends are all healthy, nothing feels better than that.

Yeah.

I don't need like a life-changing haircut just yet.

I feel like I've had a lot of change in the last year, like Bruno and I've moved.

And so I'm good on the change front right now.

Yeah.

But eventually I'm going back.

Don't you feel like it's really starting to settle in like how long, because we're coming up on the like almost one year anniversary mark of when lockdown started, like it's really, at least for me, starting to settle in like how long

this has been and how it feels endless.

You know, I've always felt like there was some like end in sight to all this, but now I'm just like, well, it's been a year and it's like, we're in this weird period.

I don't know what it's like in other states.

I think some states like have bars and restaurants open, but like we are, we're completely pretty much on lockdown.

Not like as crazy as it was, but I just cannot believe it's been almost a year.

Like, what the fuck?

Yeah.

25 just like shouldn't count for me.

No, I agree.

Just a year of your life down the tubes.

I mean, think of kids who are in school, like in the third grade, barely had third grade.

You know what?

They're going from second to fourth.

No, and like, truly, like in 20 years, i'm gonna be very very selective with my doctors because those kids miss third grade

that's so true it's like i let's say i get arrested and i need a lawyer i'm like well where were you in the third grade no where were you in 2020 were you in law school in 2020 zooming yeah from your bedroom yeah no no it's gonna be a no from me it's gonna be an absolute no from me no i'm kidding of course like lawyers are lawyers

so pragmatic no but um I just cannot believe it's been a full calendar.

Well, not exactly, but it's coming up on being a full year yeah one year anniversary crazy love to see it speaking of things coming up we are now five days away i mean honestly i've been able to sleep at all this entire week because i'm just like thinking about my book and like checking the the amazon page like just like looking at it um if you haven't pre-ordered it yet which I can't imagine there would be anyone who hasn't, girlwithnojob.com slash book has all the links.

I've never been big for pre-ordering in my, like for anything.

Yeah.

Cause one time when I was in high school, I pre-ordered like the Hen Montana album on iTunes and then Midnight came and it never showed up and I had to go and buy it.

So I just, that was my only experience.

So I can understand that if there are people who are like not into pre-ordering.

Well, the thing is like when I was promoting my comedy special, there were like not a lot of pre-orders and I was like freaking out because I'm like, this is my debut and like no one cares.

And

people really don't pre-order movies like at all.

Like literally, I think the amount of people who ended up purchasing my comedy special was like 30x the amount of people who actually pre-ordered it.

But with books, because you just like forget and they ship it to you, like, I think it's much more common, but you're right.

Not everyone pre-orders, but you still can at girlwithnojob.com slash book.

Audio, e-book, and hardcover versions are all available.

And the e-book and the hardcover version come with photos.

Like here.

I'm so excited.

I don't want to.

Yes, the Kindle version does come with photos.

Yes, I actually asked my publisher a few days ago because people were asking me, but it's at the end.

You know, in the hardcover, it's in the middle.

Kindle, the pictures are at the end.

And just a reminder, if you have a question for Claudia about her her book, email the redheadsbookclub at gmail.com and ask away.

It's going to be a great episode.

And Ben, I've been like giving him shit.

He hasn't read my book.

And like, am I right to be like so offended?

Yeah.

Yeah.

We really don't ask for much.

No, especially like both his parents read it.

We really don't.

Really?

Both his parents read it and his sister's like halfway through.

And I'm like, this is just...

I'm like, I'm trying not to be offended, but like, I'm fucking offended.

He's like, I'm waiting for the audio book.

I'm like, you're not going to listen to eight hours of an audio book.

Like, just sit down and read it.

Especially he got home early from work yesterday and he had like nothing to do.

I'm like, just sit your ass down and fucking read it.

So he made it halfway, but I'm just like annoyed that I have to like badger him into doing it.

I feel like so naggy.

Like just don't you want to read my book?

Yeah, that's sad.

It's really sad.

Speaking of Ben, he and I are going to do a Patreon episode about our cleanses, but I wanted to talk to you because last week you said like I was getting Ben to do the cleanse.

He was never going to do it and you're going to have all these groceries.

Yes.

And it's going well for him.

Oh, it's going well for him, but it is not going well for the kitchen.

Like there's chest spinach all over the floor.

Like, and he does clean up, but like

it's a lot of maintenance.

No, it's not even that.

It's like Ben means so well.

Like he really does.

And if I, if I say to him, like, the housekeeper was just here, can you please clean up after yourself after making your smoothie?

He will say yes and really mean it.

And he will clean to the best of his ability.

But the best of his ability is just not going to cut it in my house and like my standards.

And I'm not even that crazy.

Like I would only like, okay, the floor, there's like crumbs everywhere.

I know he doesn't see that, but like wiping down the counter, that's like a basic cleaning thing.

He just thinks like putting all the spinach away and like moving the blender to the corner, like it's cleaning when it's like, no, no, no.

Do the dishes, wipe down the counter, take the dustbuster and pick up all the spinach you left on the floor.

Yeah, well, does Theo get into the spinach on the floor?

Well, Ben is now on the part of the cleanse where he's at grapes, and grapes are, I don't know if you know this, very toxic to dogs.

Like be really careful.

I don't know.

And so I just don't like having grapes in the house.

It's like having like a nuclear weapon in your closet.

Like, I just really don't like it because, you know, I know things happen.

You drop a grape, they're little.

I just don't like how, I don't want to set myself up or that.

So Ben is just so reckless, and literally, I'm sitting doing my makeup.

And he goes, Hey, Claude, I forget.

Like,

how many grapes does it take for, like, you know, a dog to die?

And I'm like, Did you give Theo a grape?

Like, I literally started freaking out.

He was just asking, but it's like, I don't like having, you know, something so powerful in the hands of someone so clumsy.

Yes, that's very fair.

I think so, too.

Very fair.

Okay, well, I think we can now get into.

Oh, is it not excerpt time?

Oh, do you, where if you have, have you gotten feedback on the expert?

No?

Expert?

No, I haven't.

So maybe I should do another one.

Okay.

Page.

Page 118.

You got it, ma'am.

118.

Here we go.

This is the chapter.

What is it?

On body image, my decision to, you know, get plastic surgery, go into fat camp as a kid, and just, you know, my journey being a famous fat person, because there are not a lot of us.

But we're a powerful unit really truly powerful um

okay so this is uh oh this is actually great talking about how like i wasn't sure whether i should post on instagram like about my chin surgery um like the before and after pictures that they took at the doctor and i actually put the before and after pictures in this insert with all the photos that you get on the ebook and the hardcover so this is just a little bit about my journey there um

On my final post-op visit to Dr.

Geezy, she showed me the official before and after pictures.

I was floored, and I obviously couldn't wait to post them on Instagram.

I was a little nervous to post, not for fear of judgment or ridicule, but because I hated the way I looked in the before shot.

They were so before.

But I've always been open and honest with my audience, and my chin was no exception.

I didn't sign up for this life to do it half-assed, so I posted the photos with no regrets.

And you'll just have to see what happens next in girlsnojob.com slash book.

No regrets.

No regrets.

Thank you for listening to my excerpt.

And I promise we're almost at the end of the road of me talking about this book, Joe.

I just want you guys to like buy it so you can know what I'm talking about, you know?

Yeah.

I just want everyone to feel included.

Yeah, I think that's really fair.

Thank you.

Now, do you think it's time?

Oh, for sure.

Yeah, no, I'm totally.

Because I actually really want to talk about housewives, and in order to do that, we must.

And I really want to talk about JoJo Siwa.

So we must deliver the fast five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast.

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No.

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Oh god.

No.

Whoa.

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Must have been an RDH.

The show's over.

Let me take some of my meds.

Oh, great.

Let me go home.

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She posted to Instagram saying, I was made aware of a mutual quote statement at the same time you all were.

So I've needed some time to really digest this.

Basically, Dale spoke for the both of them and she did not sign off on that.

Speaking for my relationship, my intent, speaking for myself, my intentions with this relationship have always been very clear.

So the truth is I am crushed.

This was not what I expected or hoped for and I'm still trying to process this.

2020 was one hell of a year with COVID battling severe anxiety post-show, balancing a public new relationship all while slowly losing my mother.

It hasn't been ideal circumstances, but that is life, right?

I have been looking forward to the light at the end of the tunnel.

Our relationship was not perfect, but I can say that I was genuinely invested with all of my heart.

Like, and to me, reading between the lines means that he was not.

Of course.

I may not have all the answers, but I do know this.

I will continue to show up.

Stand by my word and be committed to love.

Well, I was actually really doubting whether or not she would continue to show up.

So I'm really glad we got that sort of clarity.

I actually feel really, really bad for Claire.

I also feel bad for Dale.

I think in a lot of ways, like, he just got swept up into this committed relationship that I think he didn't really want to be a part of as much as Claire did.

So of course there's going to be fallout from that.

But

bachelor producers, like, really, I feel like, coerced Dale into this whole thing.

And, I mean,

yeah.

Bachelor producers coerced Dale into this whole thing, thus leading to Claire thinking it was real.

So, she, I do feel bad because she must be, like, genuinely crushed.

Yeah, I don't know.

I think they definitely encourage him.

But when they, when it was at the beginning of the season and it was the two of them really vibing so hard,

He was, like, that wasn't producers making.

No, he was flirting.

Yeah, no.

So they had, like, a genuine connection.

I just think if she had just had some patience, like, she, it might have unfolded differently.

Yeah.

I do feel really bad for her because.

She's gotten a lot of shit.

She deals with a lot of things personally, and now she's single, which is like the antithesis of why she went.

So now she has all the grief from the journey, but not even the, you know, one of the positives, which is a partner.

Yeah.

I'm looking at her Instagram page and it's just just all pictures of her and Dale and it's just

sad.

I think Dale just like wanted to GTFO so bad and he just like put up a statement like he just wanted to like put this behind him.

So it's like I have empathy for both of them but I really just feel bad for Claire because now she's been through this whole journey like she was really made into a joke in so many ways and and now she's left

single, like which was the whole point of going to the city.

Right where she started, but just all with all the negative attention and the anxiety and like haters.

Yeah.

And she is chaotic and we have to give her that.

But I don't know.

I feel bad for her, especially because I know she struggles with a lot personally, like with her mom, I think has Alzheimer's, and it's just, it's hard.

And I do feel bad for her.

I really do.

Yeah.

But what a journey.

This was an adventure.

Yeah.

These two.

These two.

Quite the adventure.

Yeah.

I hope they also don't continue to be like messy on social media.

Like that's honestly one of my least favorite things.

It is one of my least favorite things, but I do, I'm sure it will get a little messier than just right now, these two statements.

And I do like to get a little taste of what was actually going on.

Oh, I do.

Aside from like the mutual love and respect, and we will always be friends.

You know where as a relationship, I feel like with Bachelor Nation, that was like so much more than we saw, was so toxic.

And we never really got like a full recap on that.

Cassie and Colton.

Yeah, no, no.

There was like a lot of TR.

There was a lot, but there was so much messiness.

Like there was a restraining order.

There was a Sky Cam.

Yeah.

There was a tracker.

No, right.

So I'm saying like, I want a Colton tell-all book, but on that.

No, I, I don't, who wants to hear from Colton's point of view?

No, no, sorry.

So one illusional.

One of them.

Cassie.

Colton wrote a book.

He chose not to talk about anything, pretended like his relationship was perfect.

And a month later, they were broken up.

Not interested.

I would actually be annoyed if I spent money on that book.

At least my book is honest.

Like, I literally tell all the truths in here.

That's true.

Like, people literally bought your book only for you to lie straight to their face.

No, and it's also like when you wrote the book, obviously you were having relationship troubles.

Yeah.

You broke up literally one month later.

So maybe wait to write your memoirs until this huge

life-altering moment.

Life-altering thing happens.

Especially when you're famous for your relationships, you know, because you're going on the bachelor.

It's not like you're an athlete.

You don't need to wait.

If you're an athlete, you don't need to wait for you and your wife to get divorced to write your memoir.

But when you're famous for being the bachelor and you're famous for being in a relationship, it would be a lot of fun.

And you know, your relationship's going down the tubes.

Maybe wait till the thing that's interesting happens.

I mean, talk about a fall from grace for Colton Underwood.

I mean, from NFL

benchwarmer.

When I think about the amount that I stand him, and like

it's shocking how quickly and how drastically your opinion about someone can change I mean he totally let us down like

and when you think about his career as a whole not just the bachelor but everything before that like all right he was like kind of like a failed NFL player but then he started dating Ellie Raisman you're like okay you know what maybe this is gonna be it for this guy and well it's not like we had heard about him before no but I mean like for him he was probably like all right my life's not over like I'm dating a fucking gold medal olympian yeah and then when he joined the bachelor it was like obviously he stepped down but there's so many perks that come with the bachelor like fame and money that like you know what the stigma is not as bad as it as it is.

And now that all this time has passed, and he's literally just like a disgraced bachelor/slash stalker, like it's really crazy how he went from like Olympic gold medal to potential jail time.

Like, it's crazy.

Yeah, it's crazy.

But he's been low-key.

He like deleted his Instagram.

Did he?

Post Sargon, yeah, last I checked.

It's just so weird.

Like, he went from being the thirstiest person on the planet.

Like, remember him and Cassie Lurry started a music video for like a no-name country singer, like, just so they could be in a music video.

Yeah.

Well, that is, you know, part of the playbook.

it is

but not for two leads like yeah that's for like a like a danielle malpe is is in a few music videos like uh someone is in a darius rucker one too like there's a bunch of girls from bachelor nation but they're not the winners yeah but lauren vichnell well that was her husband yeah counts so i think if you're asked to be in a music video you should always say yes

a hundred percent also if you could have the life or like yeah if you could have the life of any post-bachelor alum, boy or girl, who would you want?

I mean, it's, it's a, it's a bad question because it's like the worst thing you could do is like covet someone's life, and you also never know.

Okay, sorry.

No, who do you think has the best life?

Like, I mean, of course, Lauren and the Lanes are just everything of the sort.

But there's a few people who look like they're really living their best lives.

Yeah, I mean, a lot of them still stay in the bachelor circle and like make their living off of like showing up at the bachelor's podcast.

The Roper Tolberts have such a full and happy life.

That's a really good one.

The Lanes and the Roper Tollberts for sure.

Yeah.

Emily Maynard Johnson.

Yeah, but she likes not a bachelor.

Like I, what I think of her, like, I know she was on The Bachelor, not once, but twice, but I literally don't even consider her a part of Bachelor Nation because she's just like so doing her own thing.

Yeah.

I love her.

Love her.

Okay, next story is also a bit of bachelor news that I found really surprising.

ABC executive Robert Mills addresses Matt James's lower bachelor ratings.

He says people are just getting to know him.

So Matt James' bachelor premiere had the lowest ratings in franchise history.

That's shocking.

That is shocking.

That was the first time that I heard that.

I had no idea.

I would have never guessed that.

Me either because people are at home.

What else are they doing?

And this, they made this season look really good.

Yeah.

And by the way, if people watched Claire and Tayshia at literal like a motel in Palm Springs, I don't know why they wouldn't watch Matt James at like a palace in Newmacolan.

Right.

And also, I feel like sometimes when the Bachelor Bachelorette is chosen, it's a polarizing choice.

It's like, oh, I'm not going to watch next season because I know that person.

I don't want to watch that person.

But none of us knew, like, r none of us knew Matt James.

So it's like, who wouldn't wanna watch?

What right might you have with him?

And Robert Mills is saying that, like, he thinks people aren't watching yet because they don't know him, so they're not inclined to watch.

But I think the fact that they don't know him should be a reason why the ratings are even higher.

I think his assessment as to why the ratings aren't high is completely.

I mean, no one could really truly know why.

No, but I mean, I don't know.

Do they say how many people watch?

Below 5 million.

Which is that's just crazy that that many people watch a bachelor like crazy.

I know.

Because I know like Bravo ratings and like Atlanta and Beverly Hills, I think, are like some of the most watched shows.

And like for really good seasons, they hit like 2.53.

Yeah.

But ABC is ABC.

Yeah, I just, I would want to ask like a bat, a person who typically watches The Bachelor why they're not watching the season if they're not.

Okay, here.

That would be a good way to find out.

If you guys are listeners of this podcast and you usually watch The Bachelor or Bachelorette and you're not watching the season, leave a comment on our Instagram and let us know why.

Like I'm just genuinely curious.

Maybe like you just don't know Matt, so you just don't care.

That was the reason why I wanted to watch it like I just hate all the baggage like oh just show up like everyone has a stupid thing like unlovable remember like everyone has like a catchphrase it's just so contrived now and it really is a breath of fresh air even though I do think Matt James is like a little too nice for this particular role but you have to watch the show in order to know that yeah no I'm just saying my my critique no no no yeah but um if you are someone who usually watches the franchise but is not watching, do let us know.

I'm genuinely curious.

Mm-hmm.

Robert Mill said, I actually think you're going to see ratings rise more exponentially than you would during previous seasons because people are going to start talking about it and word of mouth is going to kick in.

Well, this article is also press for The Bachelor.

So he's not going to say like ratings, I think, are going to continue to go down.

Yeah.

But also, as the season picks up, the drama starts really happening.

These are always the worst episodes of any season.

And so...

Once things start to happen, like I'm sure with Clarintatia's season, when Claire left, like more people tuned in.

100%.

When Claire blew up The Bachelor.

Yeah.

So as those sort of big dramatic moments happen, I'm sure there'll be more viewers.

But I just thought that was really interesting.

And I don't think it's a reflection on the casting choice.

I think it's more of people are really tired of The Bachelor.

And it's just situational, too.

Like at some point, I was thinking about this last night.

Like, enough is enough.

Like, with television, like we have to put our foots down.

We do.

And I've put my foot down a few feet.

I have put my foot down a few times with Bachelor Nation.

I didn't watch Becca's season.

I didn't watch Brown.

Hannah Brown's season.

I was just like so over it.

You get so burnt out.

So maybe just like a lot of people got burnt out from like the past couple seasons where nobody got engaged that they were like, all right, I need a break.

Yeah.

Also, I think that, I mean, I know that the bachelor producers don't really care about this, but like with every breakup and like this, now this Clarendale thing, like it makes the franchise so...

Stupid almost.

What was the point of all of that?

Yeah.

For them to be together for a month.

And I think that with other shows, like Are You the One?

They don't really brand the shows as like, really, you're going to fall in love.

Like, you expect the people to break up.

It's not that crazy.

But the Bachelor has always taken itself so seriously and really set itself apart from those other shows.

And for a while, they were going really strong with like a lot of couples.

And now they're just, it's like in the last five seasons, Colton did not end up with someone.

Claire did not end up with someone.

Becky and Garrett have broken up.

Like, there's just so many that it's kind of boring.

Hannah Brown didn't end up with Hannah Brown.

Oh, thank you.

Hannah Brown.

Yeah.

So, just something you should know.

No, I do.

I find that interesting because I don't keep up with bachelor ratings.

I do with Bravo because I find those really, really interesting.

So I never hear about bachelor ratings dropping.

I feel like they're always consistent.

So, like, this is kind of crazy.

Yeah.

The beginning of the end.

Hopefully.

Okay.

Next up, here's why people think Jojo Siwa came out as queer.

Though young, Jojo Sioa has been a gay icon for a few years.

Her penchant for rainbows, bubbly personality, perfect teeth, and knack for going viral has

night out magazine.

It's hilarious.

Has essentially made her family.

They say we're absolutely joking, noting makes nothing makes you LGBTQ plus besides actually being LGBTQ plus.

But

JoJo CWA posted a TikTok yesterday in a completely rainbow.

It was a white hoodie with like rainbow.

It was her, I think it was her own merch, but it was rainbow-themed merch.

And she had those LED lights on her wall that were all lit up in rainbow.

And she was lip-syncing to Lady Gaga's Born This Way.

She was lip-syncing to Lady Gaga's Born This Way, The Bridge, which is like not only the most iconic part of the song, but I think

is the reason why Born This Way has become like literally like the gay anthem of our generation.

I think most queer people would agree.

And the lyrics to that part of the song.

Matter Gay Straighter by Lesbian, Transgender Life, You're on the right track, baby.

You were born to survive.

So I don't know why people are like, did she?

Didn't she?

She did.

Like, it's so clear.

And I think this is so great.

And I think Jojo C.

Well, has like always been like a wonderful role model for people in the way she like protects her brand and it's super kid safe.

And I just think like this is so cool and so wonderful.

And I'm so proud of her.

And I'm JoJo C.

Well, like, you know what?

Treat yourself tonight.

Have a pack of Marlboro Reds on me.

Yeah.

By the way, that was a joke.

There's a rumor that JoJo C was a chain smoker.

It's not a rumor.

It's like, I read it somewhere once and I just like completely believed it.

It's It's so funny.

It's so funny.

She might not be, so I just wanted to put it out there.

But if you want to celebrate tonight, JoJo, you have my permission to smoke a pack.

The reds are on us.

The reds are on us.

You know, this is awesome.

But a lot of the headlines, people are,

it's not confirmed.

You know, she can have a caption.

There's a lot that she's alluding to, but she hasn't officially come out.

But people are taking this as that she's coming out.

Yeah, because then there was another TikTok that she made with a bunch of other creators, who I believe are all queer as well.

And

the caption was like, now you're one of us, JoJo, or whatever.

So, like, it's it's pretty overt, but I just don't think anyone wants to make a full assumption until like we hear it in perfectly clear words from JoJo.

But yes, regardless, I think that this is wonderful, and I just think it's

like the same thing I'm saying with high school musical, the musical of the series.

Like, it's just such a great time to be a kid.

Yes.

Well, aside from not going to school party.

Oh, no, sorry.

Terrible time.

Aside from missing the third grade.

Sorry, terrible time, but you know what I mean.

Yeah.

Okay, next story.

Kylie Jenner is striking back at critics um because the internet was in an uproar over her shower yes they were so the other day kylie posted a video of her shower and um it was like pink and black super cool marble and she got roasted because the water pressure like looks pretty weak for a bit not what you would expect like in a hundred million dollar home it's really was giving me like camp shower pressure right so kylie took back to instagram to clear a few things up one that was the shower in her office yes if you've watched her office tour on youtube which if you haven't just go check it out.

It's so fabulous.

She has like a suite, like for, she has a wardrobe room, for a glam room, and then she does a lot of photo shoots.

So she has a sickening master bathroom there.

And so I guess the water pressure there is like not

true.

But I have a theory now that I'm thinking about it.

And then she showed us her shower at home that is like state-of-the-art, automatic.

You do the temperature.

It looks like a hot tub.

I never saw a shower without a nozzle.

Like, it just was a button.

Yeah.

Crazy.

Right.

I'm glad that she just showed us all the shower features that we are missing in our lives.

Like, that's, I think, what we all expected.

But I feel like the water pressure in her office shower, like, might intentionally not be that great because I feel like she never would wash her hair there.

It would just be like a rinse, you know, because she's always glammed up.

Yeah.

So, you ever try and not wash your hair in a shower that's having like crazy pressure from the top?

It's impossible.

Oh, you know what?

That's so interesting.

I never thought to change the pressure in my shower when I'm not washing my hair.

I don't change the pressure, but if I was building a shower in my office, knowing that I probably am not going to like, you know, come out with wet hair and no makeup.

I don't know if it was intentional.

I think you're looking too much into it.

But I just think she doesn't need such strong pressure for her office because she's probably just taking like body showers.

Well, I was thinking that, like, maybe just the nozzle wasn't turned all the way up.

And like, she just wanted the video, and she did not think people would be, like, getting so pressed on the internet about the pressure of the shower.

I just think, like, maybe the both, you know, you sometimes you got to turn two nozzles.

Maybe one was only turned halfway.

I mean, I just, it is odd.

When I saw the video on her Instagram, I had the same thought.

I was like, that's pretty weak.

Yeah, no.

And water pressure is like a coveted thing.

Like, if you're a billionaire like Kylie is, like, you have pressure out the ass.

So I just think like maybe one of the buttons wasn't on or something.

I don't know.

I think, I think it never bothered her because she's never looking for that, you know, deep, clean shower while she's at work.

That's fair.

Like, I agree.

I don't think she's washing her hair, putting it in a towel, and then going home.

Like, she's.

Yeah, and like shaving her legs and exfoliating and all of that.

I mean, honestly, I miss so much of Kylie's YouTube content.

I feel like we talk about her YouTube content like every quarter quarter because that's when she puts out a video.

And recently she's been like putting out videos that are just her Instagram stories like combined.

And to me, that's offensive.

Yeah, I haven't even checked them out.

Like, that's rude.

But her and Kendall took this trip.

Oh, my God, to Mexico.

I know.

It's the most sickening house I've ever saw, except Kylie rocking that mole woman hair.

I just, I hate that look.

Kim used to do it all the time too, like hair literally down to your ankles.

Kylie's was way longer than Kim's was, but I hate that look.

Yeah.

Despise.

Yeah.

Sorry.

No, I think that's fair.

This has has also been the week of me like offending haircuts.

Like, I've been just like talking shit about haircuts, but you know what?

Have whatever haircut you want.

You have strong opinions.

I have strong opinions, but like, do you?

Um, fifth and final story: a little biz news.

A little

biz news.

I feel like people might have seen this because Netflix is soaring.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

Netflix shares.

Shit about some stock.

Netflix shares exploded 18% in Wednesday, trading, pushing the stock to a record high, despite the earnings shortfall on Tuesday evening.

The

that was just like the next sentence is a lot of really like financial darting.

Yeah.

Um, but the company surpassed the part that we care about.

The company surpassed 200 million paid subscribers for the first time.

You know what I need?

200 million paid subscribers desperately.

Yes, powered by a world continuing to consume large amounts of content at home during the COVID-19 pandemic.

I find this really interesting because I feel like for a long time it was known that Netflix was in debt buying all of these movies and this content and producing it themselves, like really big budget projects and this is the first time that they are not

so their bet has paid off oh a hundred percent and i think they always thought that it would but people eventually were like i don't know people were doubtful but i also think that also the people who were doubtful could have never foreseen a pandemic right

all of those factors have contributed to netflix soaring yeah but it also it's super interesting that netflix is soaring given the amount of really premium services out there now that compete directly with netflix hbo max disney plus hulu like and the new ones we've Discovery Plus, the ones we've gotten in quarantine with the exception of Quibi,

are really stellar.

Yeah.

Like I'm loving HBO Max and loving Disney Plus.

I'm loving, what am I watching?

Peacock right now.

And you love Discovery Plus.

And yes, I like them all.

I really do.

We do.

I think that they're like a free.

I love Hulu.

But they're about to have Kardashians, so they fixed it.

Hulu has the best database.

Like, if you're looking for an old show, Desperate Housewives, Lost, like, it's on Hulu, Ugly Betty.

But the interface, we talk about this once a week here.

And I just need someone who works for Hulu to like help me.

Like the interface is so not premium whatsoever.

I feel like they'll work on a rebrand soon, especially with the Kardashians.

Like they're obviously investing in themselves.

I did think it was kind of crazy that they chose Hulu.

I'm sure they just went to like whoever had the most money.

But like Hulu in terms of branding is like not the coolest place on earth.

No, I'm sure it was just about money.

And Hulu like really needs the Kardashians.

And I totally respect people who make choices for money.

And because to them, it's all the same.

Right.

And wherever they go, if you think about it, fans will follow.

No, and it's like, oh, the Kardashians here are here.

It's cool.

They don't have to worry about going to the existing cool one.

Imagine just being like that cool.

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Okay, where do you want to go first?

OC, because it was on first and I feel like there's just less to say.

I thought it was good.

I thought it was good.

I was paying attention the whole time.

There's so much to talk about.

There are so many, because the season was so abbreviated and confusing, like there was a lot to unpack.

And like blanks to fill in.

Yes.

I thought though, like collectively, like they didn't look great.

The lighting was harsh for a lot of them.

And the chairs were like small.

There was no decor like between them.

Yeah.

I didn't think overall that they looked bad.

I thought Emily looked fantastic.

I thought Gina looked great.

Gina looked the best.

Braun Wynn.

Braun.

Bron Quinn looked interesting.

Braun from Game of Thrones.

Braun.

She was wearing flats.

Bron Wynn?

No, she wasn't.

She was wearing those boots.

Like, they were flat.

Oh, it looked like they had a big heel.

They might have had a platform, but like they were flat.

Oh, that's not how I saw it.

Which is just crazy.

I think that she looked like great.

Her hair and makeup looks great.

Yeah.

I thought Kelly looked great.

I thought Elizabeth Vargas looked great and I just thought that Shannon's foundation was off.

I thought Shannon's whole look was weird.

Her shoes were so bizarre.

I loved Shannon's concept.

Concept.

I love the headband and the go-go dress and the platform shoes.

It's just, it's a standing outfit, not a sitting outfit.

That's really true.

And I loved her hair.

So I loved what she was going for, but it just, it was hard, tough on a reunion.

The whole reunion was bizarre.

Everyone was like, there's just like no clear alliances.

I think for the most part, like it's everyone against Bronwyn, but then it's also like everyone against themselves.

And like there's so much infighting.

And I just like really have come to the conclusion that I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt.

I just don't like Bronwyn, but I do think some of the things they say to her are just fucking evil.

Like her sobriety is not fake.

Like I don't think that.

Maybe she's like desperate to be famous and purposely got sober for a storyline.

Fine.

That doesn't mean she's still a fake.

Kelly said she thinks she's a fake alcoholic and she doesn't believe she never saw her on Cover.

She never thinks she had a problem and that like she's not even a person who needed to get sober.

If I had heard this at the beginning of the season, I would have been wildly offended.

But now hearing a lot of the things that we have heard and knowing that Bronwyn has lied about a lot of different facets of her life, namely that her and Sean have that love condo, like that was all a lie.

It's clear that she does things for storylines.

And I think the idea that she got sober, I don't think anyone's questioning the fact that she is sober and that she's going through all the steps, but that she did that for the show, especially considering day one was like day one of filming.

Like it does make you wonder.

Like I.

Also, Emily and Gina said that.

They think that like your sobriety is real, but like your timing and like your motives are self-serving.

Right.

And I think Kelly straight up was like, I don't believe you to be an alcoholic and I don't think you have a drinking problem.

Right.

But she's not saying that her sobriety, that she's not now sober.

No, no, no, no.

She's saying the same thing as Emily and Gina.

Just she is sort of like...

No, no, Emily and Gina said they thought she had a drinking problem, but they're just like skeptical of her timing.

Whereas Kelly was like, you never had a drinking problem.

You made up the problem.

But when Andy asked, who here thinks that Bronwyn had a drinking problem before she got sober, Gina was like, I never thought that.

But Gina's not doubting the fact that now, knowing what she knows, that Bronwyn did the right thing and needed to get help.

She went to a meeting with him.

Oh, right, because they had gone to meetings with her.

So they saw a different side.

So maybe that's what Kelly needs to do.

Yeah, I just think Kelly took that one a little too far.

I think Kelly just, I think there's a lot more to come with.

Bronwyn.

And I think that given a lot of other things that are going to come up, some women have every reason to question every every single thing that she says.

Well, the cocaine thing that's coming up now is so crazy.

And I do think it will result in Bronwyn being let go from the show.

I mean,

how could it not?

How could it not?

Like, this has happened a few times where it's like someone, and housewives are always saying and doing crazy things, but every now and then someone like really crosses this invisible line, Leanne Locken with Carrie Bringingham.

And like everyone collectively was like, yeah, she's got to go.

And I think that it's going to be this.

But I also think I was looking at these women and I'm like, you know what?

I think you all have to go.

Like this show, it's just, it needs to start from scratch.

And I think they keep trying to remove elements and like build around.

But I don't think it's it because

honestly, the only woman, I know I'm like obsessed with her, but I think the only woman who really can and should stay, maybe Elizabeth Vargas too, but Emily Simpson, like, she is a real housewife.

Like she lives a fabulous life.

She has a nice home and her and her husband like make a nice living.

And she also is now like getting involved in drama.

Like she has both elements.

Whereas like some of the women have neither.

And I don't know.

It's just, it's like, it's a broken franchise.

I think that Bronwyn and Shannon need to go.

Shannon, 100%.

I think that Emily's great.

I think that Gina contributes a lot to the show and she's right some of the time.

And I think that, I think she's a good housewife.

I think she is too.

I just like

her.

Kelly is a good housewife.

And I think that Elizabeth is well on her way.

Well, also, I think now Elizabeth's divorce settlement.

What I'm gathering from the reunion dynamics is that those four women get along with one another.

I think Emily and Gina, obviously, we know that they're close.

I think Emily and Kelly are very close.

Me too.

And I think that the three of them have no problem with Elizabeth.

No, and now that Elizabeth got her divorce settlement, and I have a feeling it was like $500 million.

Like I feel, I don't know why I'm just getting the vibe that it was like a lot of money.

That I'm ready for, Elizabeth Vargas should have waited till her divorce was done before she could join the show, just be so she could, A, talk about it and B, just like be rid of that, like be more free.

Yeah.

So I'm actually looking forward, but she was like, she was trying a little too hard at the reunion, Elizabeth, to like have like a, like a punchy moment.

oh you thought so i felt that way about bronwyn that's bronwin though to a tea like did you see those paparazzi pictures me and heather mcdonald's were talking about on our podcast we were dying did you see like paparazzi caught bronwin and sean going into a sex shop where brawnwyn just happened to be wearing a necklace that said gay okay

i can't it's just like what are the odds you know what are the odds they're just she's so thirsty and her motives are so

clear i agree we gotta definitely get rid of bronwin and shannon Even though I really liked Shannon for a while, but she's had just

two of the old school OC Trace Amigas.

Yeah, Trace Amigas, like googling each other.

Like, it's just a new world.

I agree.

And

it's just, I think her time has come and gone.

Yeah.

And also, like, just, if I have to hear about COVID more on my reality TV, like, I'm literally just going to throw my TV out the out the window because, like, I'm living it.

Okay.

Like, please leave me alone.

Like, it's so torturous.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Um, Salt Lake City was so good.

And I have this theory, and I need you to hear me out.

Are you done talking about it?

I was saying, okay, let me talk to talk to you about Salt Lake City because I was getting so frustrated this episode.

Of course, like Jensha, queen of like accepting apologies and then pretending like they never happened.

And that was crazy.

But I really was getting annoyed with Lisa Barlow.

Like, I think she might be one of my least favorite housewives of all time.

And I have a theory.

So you were the one who actually told me, like, when you saw her on Watch Japanese Live for the first time, you were like, it was so clear that like she's just been dying to be a housewife.

So I off camera in Salt Lake City, Lisa Barlow is probably like the most cool one of this group.

I think like when she got cast, it was like good for the show.

I think she's like a girl about town, a social light, very well connected.

And she's probably quote unquote cooler in Salt Lake City than any of the other women.

That means nothing to us because we don't live in Salt Lake City and I just like who I like from the show.

And so I think that she was kind of being like a

like keeping everyone at, you know, an arm's length, like trying to be like the cool girl, trying to have

you come to me, thinking that would transfer to the screen.

We don't know what the Sundance Film Festival social climb ladder is like.

Like, I'm getting the vibe though that like she thought that like that would all translate.

And now I think people's favorites are pretty much like Heather and Whitney.

I think that's where the audience is lying.

Nobody cares that Lisa's like a cool girl in real life because on camera, you're a mean girl.

And I...

You're not contributing anything to the show.

Anything.

Like, you're not friends with any of these women.

You're honestly bringing Meredith down.

And I think at the reunion, we're going to see like a huge change because all Lisa wants is to be like a beloved housewife.

And she thought she could do that by being herself.

Yeah.

And that's not working.

Yeah.

She needs to be with the, with the people who are now the cool girls, which is like Heather and Whitney.

And I think we're going to see like a huge shift from, I think she thought she was going to end up being like the coolest cat in town.

She thought she was doing something.

And she was doing nothing of the sort.

Yeah.

She was actually doing absolutely nothing.

Yeah.

Like her like going to Vegas and not telling anyone, like logistically, that just doesn't work for me.

Like, do we need to get you a room?

Like, it was just, she was annoying me on so many levels.

She's taking this so personally and taking it way too far.

And I will say, though, in her defense, even though I'm so here for Whitney, what Whitney did at the party, repeating a rumor that she heard from Mary, unverified, and going to Jen with it about Meredith and Lisa, like they have every right to be pissed at her.

And up until the race car thing, she hadn't apologized.

Once she apologized, it seems like they're ready to move on.

And I just want to make sure that they do move on.

Yes.

But I...

Can understand that they were like what are you doing?

Yes, but I do wish they would recognize a little bit more that not only okay.

Yes, she said the thing that Mary said and that was bad, but she was also looking out for Meredith because no one is even talking about how Jensha, not once, but twice, has been so disrespectful and nasty to Meredith about her marriage, telling everyone they were separated before Meredith had a chance and now starting rumors that she was seen with some guy.

And so Whitney in her own weird way, in her drunk way, was trying to help Meredith as well.

And no one's talking about that.

Yep, no, Meredith is.

And I think Meredith sees that.

That's why Meredith was on the plane and is was quicker to forgive Whitney.

But Lisa has her own experience with Whitney.

They were already on a weird foot.

Then Whitney does that.

Whitney needed to apologize.

And if Lisa can, she said she accepted it.

If she can actually move on,

I'm cool with it.

Yeah.

But she needed to apologize.

She waited a little bit of a long time.

I mean, that's short.

I wouldn't get on a plane with, like, that motorcycle.

No, but if you're on a housewife's show, like, in real life, yeah.

Yeah, but like that car ride to the, it was so awkward.

I'm sorry.

The motor,

the car racing thing where Lisa was being like such a big talker and then was literally driving so slow.

Like that for me was the highlight of the episode.

Also the highlight of the episode was Heather Gay's double date with Sharif.

And when she said he's tall, he's dark, he's handsome, he's alive, like he'll work.

I was dying.

And then the guy was like boring and sober.

And she was like, thanks, Jen, for bringing me to this sober TED Talk.

She was being so funny.

She is a queen.

Like she is the star.

Yes.

I want to talk about what Jen did for her with the shopping day, which was so cute and sweet.

And it was like the second attempt on Jem's behalf to like do something nice for Heather.

Okay, can and I'll say one thing.

What?

I didn't think it was so nice and so sweet.

Well, I think.

There's an itinerary.

Like, it's actually rude to Whitney.

Yeah.

Like, you just work on your own schedule.

Like, Whitney coordinated this trip.

I completely agree.

And now,

watch What Happens Live, we know that Heather actually did want to go race car driving.

But the idea that Jen took time to plan something to call people to do something special for Heather, I think is a really nice, generous thing for a person to do.

However, the fact that after they finished their shopping, Whitney came out.

And then Jensha fell off the bar.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

Oh my god.

I was like, my ankle hurt.

I mean, I thought she was literally going to like

fall on her face.

It was crazy, but she was fine.

It was crazy, but she was fine.

Sorry, continue.

No, but so they finished the shopping.

And so Jen brings up Whitney and just goes off on Heather for supporting Whitney.

And it's like made me feel like Jen had been doing these nice things to like,

to get Heather on her side to go against Whitney.

And like, I am now just skeptical.

So, so skeptical.

Also, people are forgetting, not only are Whitney and Heather friends, they are cousins.

Like, family is family.

Of course, you're always.

I'm at, I would get as a kid, if I didn't take my cousin's side, like, I literally get smacked.

Like, you take your cousin's side, of course, even if you think, and I don't even think Whitney's really that wrong.

Yeah.

But, like, of course, she's taking.

And so, for Jen to not only pretend like the apology never happened, but then demand that Heather take her side is so delusional.

Yeah.

She is really starting to piss me off.

And she was getting, she has an anger problem.

She was getting so heated.

And it was literally just two people sitting and talking.

Like, chill.

Yeah.

A pet peeve of mine that I'm realizing is when someone accepts an apology and then does not move on or just pretends like that apology didn't happen.

It happened with Mary.

Mary, two times.

And it's really frustrating as a viewer.

Also, Mary, like, still sitting in her closet, still not leaving her house.

Like, she's literally on coronavirus lockdown.

I understand, of course, why she didn't go to the trip, but like.

This is where like housewives gets weird where it's like, yes, honestly, Mary's right, but Jen is with the group.

So like, yeah, one of you gotta go.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, it's hard to go on a trip.

I feel like Mary is just like writing herself out of the show.

No, she, she gives no fucks.

Whereas like Lisa Barlow, I feel like, is like, this is her dream come true.

On Watch Rappin' Live last night, they opened the vault and Heather had posted on her Instagram on 2014 a picture of Andy Cohen.

Was like, I love this guy.

And they were like dying.

And Heather was like, no, honestly, like, manifest your dreams, people, on Instagram.

And it's what's so funny is like, I thought her response was so great and she just owned it.

Whereas like, if that had been Lisa, like, it just would have been something so it wasn't cringy.

Like the fact that she walked in.

It wasn't cringy, obviously.

But that's like, remember when Jackie Goldschneider, that picture of her at Teresa's?

Yes.

And she tried to like play it off, but she honestly didn't do a good job.

Like I thought the way Heather just embraced it, she's like, yeah, like I fucking love Andy.

Like I thought it was so cool.

I was like little bittering because it was like a like a cast member that you're now beefing with.

No, it's it's crazy.

That one was crazy.

I like selectively forgot about that.

I'll never forget.

Never.

She went to Teresa's Book Signing with her kids and took a picture and like of course the photo resurfaced the season that she joined.

And it was just

the season that she joined in Cape Brown.

But I'm surprised there's not more cross-review.

I mean, like, every middle-aged woman in America watches housewives, and some of them become housewives.

Yeah.

I'm actually surprised it doesn't happen more.

But I thought Heather handled it well.

Meredith, I wanted to say one more thing about.

Oh my God, the scene with her grocery shopping for Brooks.

Like, I know Mary's writing herself out of the show, but I wish Brooks would.

Like, gluten-free, dairy-free, soy-free, binge.

Are these dog trades?

He really thinks that he's doing something.

And I think he's going to, I think he's seen by now that he's not.

I mean,

I know he's wishing he could go back and edit all these episodes himself out.

He'd rather not be in it at all.

He's coming off so bratty.

He's so bratty.

And not funny.

Yeah.

Oh, he started so strong.

He started so strong.

Okay.

Anything else about the episode you want to talk about?

No, just still a great show.

Really enjoying it.

Last night was a good night of Housewives for me.

Yeah, Meredith and Heather were on Rock Trappins Live.

And honestly, there was like an awkward vibe.

I feel like they are not friends.

But I also think it's hard to vibe with someone on Zoom.

Yeah.

But do you see that they had Carl from Summerhouse like come and be a mystery man set up with Heather?

That was weird.

I was so weirded out.

Me too.

I'm really trying to think who it was.

I couldn't think of two people.

I'm seeing maybe someone from Vanderpump Rules.

Yeah, because there aren't that many like single men.

Single men on Bravo that are like above 35.

Yeah.

Um, and if they are, they're married to a housewife.

Oh, of course.

And so I was just like, what in the what?

That was weird.

What?

Yeah.

And the last time she was on, they set her up with someone from below deck and she said they've been texting.

That's really cute.

I just love Heather.

I love her openness to people.

I know, and just like being the ultimate single girl.

Everyone wants to set you up with.

And she's just has such an open mind.

And I think she's having the time of her life being a housewife.

And I'm just, I'm like so happy for her.

Yeah.

And I think that something that we've seen her struggle with is like her wanting to to explore life outside of Salt Lake City and the more mature community.

And I think Housewives is the perfect vessel for her to do that.

And I just wish she wasn't airing during COVID because she'd be in New York, she'd be in LA, she'd be everywhere.

Living her best life.

Living her best life.

She's also friends with Bronwyn.

That's so fun.

Unfortunate.

Yeah.

All right.

Tomorrow we will be recapping Southern Charm.

And I think that is it for tomorrow night, right?

Yep.

That's all she wrote.

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