S3 Ep204: The End is Near: Monday, December 14th, 2020

55m
  • FKA Twigs sues Shia LaBeouf over alleged abusive relationship (Page Six), Sia says Shia LaBeouf 'conned' her into an 'adulterous' relationship (Page Six)
  • CMAs address award show backlash after Charley Pride's COVID-related death (Page Six)
  • Taylor Swift might release surprise third album, 'Woodvale' (Page Six)
  • Lisa Vanderpump 'devastated' over death of beloved dog Giggy (Page Six)
  • Cody Simpson Says He Qualified for Olympic Swimming Trials - and Gets Shoutout from Michael Phelps (PEOPLE)
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Real Housewives of Atlanta Recap

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Good morning, Millennials.

Welcome back to the Morning Toast.

Happy Monday.

I hope everyone had an amazing weekend.

This is an exciting day here.

It's a Monday.

It's raining, but we're not letting it get us down.

So you guys, today is such an exciting day.

Obviously, at the Morning Toast, it's always an exciting day and we find some reason to get excited.

To feel happy to be alive.

But this morning, the first shipments of a vaccine went out out of Michigan.

There's a video that was on TikTok that just got me in my feelings, like all these trucks leaving the facility, the Pfizer facility, like shipping out all the vaccines so that the healthcare workers can get them.

And it's all these different trucking companies like UPS, FedEx, and then the other trucking companies.

Yeah, the other ones.

DHL.

It was just like so heartwarming.

It's been such a difficult year.

And just like to see that the end is near, like I can't explain the feeling.

So the video just got me in my feels and I'm just feeling grateful and excited and optimistic.

Glory be to God.

Yeah.

I mean, I'm not going to get the vaccine till like April.

Right.

No, it's, it's all on the right.

So I'm not excited for me.

It's all on the horizon for us.

I'm excited for everyone who's been leading their life down the line this entire time that will be getting a vaccine this week.

Like they have times and dates.

No, it's so crazy.

And I'm so excited.

Just like.

I think like now safely we can start just like thinking about life returning to normal.

Yeah.

And like maybe going to a concert next year.

Like at first it was so uncertain because like you really didn't know when the vaccine vaccine would be like in people's arms.

But now it's like they're going to be in people's arms this week and for the next like six to nine months.

And I just think we can now start seeing a world beyond COVID.

We're not there yet, but we can now safely, cautiously start thinking about it and envisioning it.

And that is fucking exciting.

That's just the sort of news and optimism we need to end this year.

And that's why 2020 is just going to be different because there is hope is in the air.

100%.

And we were saying before, like, you know,

2021, you know, I don't want to get everyone's hopes up because it's, it's, yes, technically a different year, but things could be just as shitty.

But now I'm feeling a like, I feel like when the clock strikes midnight on December 31st, like we are going to be a different planet.

Yes, but I also think that

yes and no.

There's the optimism in the air, but like for a city like New York, like now indoor dining is closed, like restaurants are going out of business, ones that had survived up until this point.

So like it is still sad, but we have a vision on the horizon.

Hope is all you need.

And I have have hope today.

Yeah, no, it's a good day, even though it's like so rainy.

Oh, by the way, when it rains in our studio, like it looks like it's 8 p.m.

But we're recording at the same time as always.

So just know that.

It's 9:30 in the morning.

Yeah.

Wow, I'm feeling really annoying today.

Yeah, like nice and sing-songy, but also like not singing any good songs.

Okay, Jackie, your negativity is not going to get in my way.

I'm going.

My way.

I want you to sing some good ass songs.

That's what I'm doing.

Yeah.

Um, no, I'm just like, I got a lot of sleep over the weekend, and I didn't really, like, I've been drinking so much, like, every weekend consistently that Monday morning, I'm like, oh, I have Corona.

Like, I just don't feel good because I like didn't really relax on my weekend.

Yeah.

And I actually just had a really balanced weekend and I got a lot of sleep and spent a lot of time with Theo.

And like, it was just, I'm feeling like I should do this more often.

Yep, except that we did like heavily drink on Saturday.

Yeah, but see, like, but it was day drinking, which is the key.

Also, for just like, you know, a vet like me, that like wasn't so crazy, except I did throw up at dinner, but I don't think it had anything to do with the alcohol.

I think it was poisoned.

No, but like, because you drink during the day, like, the Sunday doesn't suffer as much.

And it was really nice.

I had a nice balanced weekend too, because I drank, we had a good time.

But I also read an amazing book that I started on Friday that I finished yesterday called Luckiest Girl Alive.

Dana was telling me about it.

And it just, I didn't know anything about it when I read it.

And I absolutely loved it.

And Jackie just chatted it up so much on her Instagram when we were out together together on Saturday, just like talk, talk, talking about the book that I was so heavily influenced.

I actually purchased the book.

So she's going to read it soon.

On our vacation.

So exciting.

Yeah.

And speaking of vacation, this is our last week of shows for the year.

And we're going to miss you guys, but we're going to be having a good ass time.

Yeah, no, I am going to miss you for sure, but I will also definitely be having a good ass time.

A GAT.

A GAT, but.

Last week of shows.

So enjoy them.

I mean, last week, I feel like should have been the final week of shows because they were just five out of five premium ass shows, like five stars all around, every episode episode more funnier than the next, and that would have been a great way to go out.

Yeah.

And I guess we'll just have to keep that energy up for this week.

Yeah, we're just gonna have to bring it.

It's already been brought in.

That was like such a lame part of Bring It On.

It's not from Bring It On.

Yes, it is.

No, so it's actually, so she says bring it, obviously.

They never respond, it's already been brought in.

That's from

not another teen movie.

Yeah, yeah, but no, the whole concept of like bring it, like,

what is it?

You know?

Yeah.

No, it's the energy.

Like, I get it, but it just, it's like kind of cringy.

Like, you better bring it.

Bring it.

Oh, we will.

It's like, you both know what the other is talking about.

So vague.

No, you, it.

I.T.

Everything of the sort.

Everything of the sort.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So it's been now

four days since we've gotten the Evermore album.

And I'm still, I'm taking my time.

I'm not 100%

there in terms of like having lived with it, but I did spend a significant amount of my weekend listening to it and studying it and just living with it.

And it's such a beautiful album.

And honestly, some of the songs have just like really evolved into like totally different pieces of music.

I think Willow, which for Taylor, I would say probably in all of her albums, the songs that she releases as her lead singles are almost always my least favorite.

Like almost always.

I don't know what it is.

But so that's why I didn't really have like a ton of hope for Willow.

I kind of just like was like, oh, it's like a fine song, but I'll like skip past it.

But my God, it's so good.

Like it's, it's just so unlike her to put like one of her best songs as her single.

So I wasn't expecting it and I kind of like.

Wrote it off almost, but that's what I get for just judging before I know anything.

It's just such a beautiful album and I'm really happy with it.

Oh, good.

And there's a song on there about Theo, which is really, it was really...

That was my next question.

Like, what's Theo's favorite song?

Is it the one about him?

Yeah, that was prequel of Taylor to just like acknowledge him, like a nod, you know, artist to artist.

A lot of celebrities have been acknowledging Theo these days.

Pete Davidson.

Pete Davidson and

Ice Cream Chillin, Black Pink.

Oh, yeah.

Do-do-do do-do-do.

Yeah, but when Taylor sings, hey, Dora Theo, it's just...

It warms my heart because it's like she sees his beauty and his grace.

And just to clarify, for those who might have have been confused on our Instagram page, that was not actually Theo, the cavalier, in the picture with Pete Davidson outside of SNL.

But holy shit, did it look like that?

I just want to say, like, there's no proof that it wasn't Theo.

That's true, because I was out.

You were out.

Who knows what he got into?

Ben was out as well.

But I just know that he doesn't have that sweater.

But maybe he picked it up on the way.

Maybe it's a new sweater.

Maybe.

It wasn't him.

I like.

I'm not convinced.

I like know what Theo looks like to a T.

So like, of course, it looked a lot like him, but I knew it wasn't him.

to the average viewer who like sees Theo on Instagram or on the show, like it looks like him.

No, I agree.

I didn't expect so many people to know him so well.

I dug myself into like this grave where everyone was like, is it him?

I can't tell.

And I was like, I thought we all knew like this was a joke.

I mean, but still, like...

It's unclear.

It could be him because no one was with him.

No one knew what he got into on Saturday night.

Right.

Like, remember that movie with Cynthia Nixon Baby's Day Out where like the baby goes to the museum and the gym?

Yeah.

I think Theo takes himself out.

He is a fan of comedy, obviously.

His mom and SNL is the only show show in town right now so he went on down there and he met his friend pete i don't think it's so far-fetched me neither and if you don't know what we're talking about look at our instagram for the picture educate yourselves today we have a fabulous show of course the fast five lots to discuss because we had real houseboys of potomac reunion part one which was such unbelievable television thank you for entertaining me like it was so good

thank you monique samuel i did not pick my phone up once like i was just in so intrigued and then we also had real houseways of atlanta so we have a lot to discuss we have a lot to discuss So I think we should just jump right into the fast five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast.

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Okay, first story.

Some big news of the weekend.

I just want to issue a trigger warning beforehand because we're going to talk about an abusive relationship.

Oh, yes, I heard about this.

FKA Twiggs is suing Shia LaBeouf over an alleged abusive relationship.

She has accused him of sexual battery, assault, and infliction of emotional distress.

The New York Times has reported.

I didn't even know that they dated.

I know.

One incident described in the lawsuit occurred just after Valentine's Day in 2019, and she claims that Shia was driving recklessly,

threatening to crash the car if she didn't profess her love for him as a passenger in the car.

She claims she begged to be let out of the car and he pulled over at a gas station, followed her out of the car and assaulted her, throwing her against the car according to the lawsuit.

So there's a number of incidents that she cites, but also now Sia is coming out

and calling Shia LaBeouf a pathological liar.

Sia is saying that Shia conned her into an adulterous relationship.

She's warning women to stay away from the very sick star.

And Shia LaBeouf did respond to the lawsuit from FK Twiggs and was like, yes, this is all true.

Like, and and I'm very sick.

Wow.

So it's, first of all, I didn't even know that any of these people like were linked.

I didn't know Shila Buff dated FKA Twigs.

I know Shyla Buff had a relationship with Sia.

And then I didn't know that FK Twigs is now dating Matt Healy from the 1975 because he like released a statement supporting her.

So I'm just like learning so much.

Learning so much.

But in regards to this story, I feel like it's super, I just love like Sia and FKA like coming together and coming together and supporting one another and just like speaking out when it's like so hard.

So hard.

And I'm sure FKA Twigs like, you know, speaking out, it's so brave to do.

And then to have someone in the industry like come and corroborate you, like, I'm sure means so much.

A hundred percent.

So I just, I hope that justice is served.

And I'm just really proud of them for speaking up against, like, and he's a major player in

the industry.

Yeah.

So I mean, it's hard.

I think everyone has known for a long time that he's definitely unwell in a lot of ways.

And I think we all just like watched it and he like becomes a meme, but it's like not funny.

And this is like proof that it's not.

Yeah, for sure.

I hope there's you know, I didn't, like, I didn't know you could, like, sue someone.

Yeah, no, I wasn't.

But then I guess it's, but then I think of like Amber Heard and Johnny Depp, but they're like fighting over like divorce.

No, and libel, right?

So I just didn't know that you could sue someone, like, yeah, in a relationship.

I didn't really know that either.

But I guess it totally makes sense.

Like, you can.

Yes.

It's illegal.

Yeah.

So we'll see how the suit plays out.

But I just think, I think a lot of this was to draw, raise awareness.

And then for Sia, it was like warning other women to stay away from him and I think that's important for women to know yeah me too this is a terrible story but terrible hopefully

the road to justice is on its way okay another really sad story um Charlie Pride country music icon legend has passed away from a COVID Charlie Pride country music icon legend an incredible p-jom PJOM the pride of country music literally has passed away after a COVID related death now raising questions about whether or not he might have contracted COVID at the CMA awards which were last month, and he was honored with the Lifetime Achievement Award there.

The CMA awards have put out a statement saying, quote, everyone affiliated with the CMA Awards followed strict testing protocols outlined by the city health department and unions.

Charlie was tested prior to traveling to Nashville.

He was tested upon landing in Nashville.

And again, on show day, with all tests coming back negative, after returning to Texas following the CMA awards, Charlie again tested negative multiple times.

All of us in the country music community are heartbroken by Charlie's passing out of respect for his family during their grieving period.

We'll be not not commenting on this further.

Right.

So, no one has actually confirmed whether or not the CMAs were the place where he got COVID.

I think a lot of people, including Marin Morris, who tweeted about it, were just like assuming almost because of the timing.

Yeah, Marin Morris tweeted and deleted, but she said, I don't want to jump to conclusions because no family statement has been made.

But if this was a result of the CMAs being indoors, we should all be outraged.

Rest in power, Charlie.

So I just want to say, if this was a result of the CMAs being indoors and just the CMAs in general, I actually do think that people

could have thought twice about inviting in person.

I didn't even think about it at the time because it really seemed like so well done.

And if that was the case that he had gotten it there, actually now that I think about it, like...

The Lifetime Achievement Award could have been received remotely and the rest of the thing could have gone on without him.

But at the same time, I don't think it's fair to assume that's where he got it, even though the timeline does

make sense.

I just don't think it's fair to like jump to any conclusions yet.

And what's a COVID-related injury?

A COVID-related death would be.

So COVID,

like the disease itself, like caused harm to other parts of his body.

And then maybe, I don't, like, it could have been heart failure

to COVID initially.

Right.

Or like, because he was older, maybe he had some

pre-existing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I don't know.

But I just think the way we, you know, address it both publicly and just like how we like, we should just be careful because

there's aside from the timing there's no proof that he had received it there no just speculation but at the same time i didn't think it at the time but now that i'm thinking about it like i do feel like the cmas were really well done and that's because most people in cmas are like young and healthy that like the one person who was older and receiving his like maybe could have received it remotely yeah now that i think about it yeah i'm sure that people will continue to try and figure it out and also if it was a a super spreader event, then other people would have, in the country music world would have gotten COVID too.

That's true.

I feel like maybe we.

So I do feel like there are ways that we'll find out.

Yeah, but I also definitely feel like celebrities in general

aren't telling people when they get COVID.

Because like we knew Chloe Kardashian had COVID from keeping up with the Kardashians, but she had it like a year ago or whenever.

Yeah, in March.

You know what I mean?

So I feel like not everyone is forthcoming.

No, I don't know.

I feel like every day I'm seeing a story or it's like so-and-so is telling us now that they had COVID like four months ago.

And yeah, I agree.

They're definitely being strange about it.

So if it was some type of super spurter event, like we might not know, but those things really don't stay quiet.

No, they don't.

They don't.

Okay, next up, some Taylor Swift news.

Of course.

Like some Taylors of speculation that I really want to talk about because I just think it's like so obvious, but I don't know.

Okay.

Taylor Swift might release a surprise third album.

Yes.

Called Wood Vale.

Yes.

So the signs of the DeSwifty code are pointing to a third album because she said the story continues.

There's Wood Vale written in the artwork for folklore.

And they think that these are triplets, not just twins.

It's very possible.

There are certain like Taylor Swift theories that like I get really invested in.

And sometimes they come to fruition, sometimes they don't.

This third album, like, okay, I see the points everyone is making.

I hope it's true, but I'm not like, you know.

tying up my ship and getting on board.

You know what I mean?

I'm just, I'm sitting around like waiting for it.

Sure.

And if that happens, wonderful.

But I'm so, I don't want to be greedy.

Like I'm so grateful for the

imagine you just put out like a second amazing work of art in one year like record smashing chart topping and then everyone's just like well where's the third yeah so I'm so grateful and I don't want to be greedy like the two albums that we have are more than enough for me and if this is where the folklore era ends it will have been not just good but great you know I mean beyond beyond so over and above it would have been enough Dianeu if we get the third album okay I will be very appreciative but I'm not expecting anything I Taylor Swift is very unpredictable And every time we think we've figured it out, we usually don't.

I just, the three cardigans, the three stars.

Totally.

I'm just feeling like, like, to me, I always see these theories that

the Swifty's put out.

And I'm like, okay, this is far-fetched.

But I saw this one and I was like, yeah, no, for sure, this is it.

Sometimes that happens.

But then it's like enough time goes by where nothing happens that you just forget about it.

And like the theory goes unanswered.

Yeah, that's true.

That's the life of a Swifty.

It's like, I don't know, I can't get so excited anymore because so many of my theories are untrue, like and just never come to life.

Yeah.

Like, I really thought her and Joe were definitely married and maybe even had a baby after peace came out.

But the

wild, I'll give you a chance.

That's true, but there's nothing to say that they're not married.

That's true.

But I also just don't think Taylor Swift will ever legally be married.

That's true.

That is.

Financially, I just don't think it makes sense.

That's very true.

Yeah.

I can really, you know.

Our next story is some more sad news.

This is just an SND, a sad news.

Newsday.

Yeah.

Lisa Vanderpump is devastated over the death of her beloved dog, Jiggy.

And so is the Bravo community, because this is wild.

Dio, cover your ears.

The Vanderpump Rural star announced the news on social media Saturday saying she and her family are devastated.

Quote, he was truly loved, and we know many of you loved him too.

He inspired us to start our rescue, and we will always be grateful.

Jiggy's legacy lives on with every dog Vanderpump Rules.

Vanderpump Dog saves.

Rip, Jiggy, we love you.

You say Rip?

I did.

That's weird.

R.I.P.

Did you say rip?

Not really.

I never, it's like so disrespectful.

Like, rip.

I don't give a rip.

Like, rest in peace.

I'm sorry.

You just said rip.

It's okay.

R.I.P.

And if it's like all lowercase, it's just like, rip, you know?

Rip, rip, rip.

I don't give a rip.

I'm actually really excited for the Real Houses of Dallas, but I digress.

Back to Jiggy.

Jiggy is like the first lady dog-wise of Bravo.

Yeah.

And there's been so many years.

He's the first dog.

The first dog, thank you.

First lady dog-wise.

Like, I don't know what that meant to say, but yes, first dog.

And this is just like crazy.

And I feel like a lot of people, like, we've just been like, this is going to sound terrible, but like, Gigi's just been so old for so long that I feel like I've just been like waiting for this announcement.

And it never came.

So I'm like, maybe he like drank from the tuck everlasting fountain and he's going to live forever.

Yeah.

No.

And now that like it's here, it's like, wow, he lived such a long life and he was sick like for a long time.

Yes, he had a lot of complications.

But he lived a very good life and it's it's just really sad because he's an icon.

And a meaningful life.

But his legacy is so meaningful yeah and even though like i truly like in my soul despise lisa vannerpump i actually like i think the work that she does with vannerpump dogs and just like her love for dogs and the ulin dog festival is so admirable i just have something to say i'm like done

despising lisa vannerpump wait that's like so crazy that you said that because like earlier and i just don't want to like discredit all the work i've done over the last 10 years like into the gospel anti-lisa vannerpump but watching this most recent season without lisa vannerpump and like seeing kyle just be like really kind of weird and shady I was like Hmm.

No, it's like Kyle's Bobby Bobby Fisher.

Maybe heavy is the head that wears the crown and her neck was hurting.

No, it's not even about the women.

It's like because I've forgotten all the reasons why I dislike her and all the injustices.

I'm like, she's a nice lady.

Well, yeah, that's what happens.

Like out of sight, out of mind, I feel fondly.

But I don't even like her on Vanderpump Rules, which is like where we see her more recently.

Yeah, no, but it's been a while since Vanderpump Rules.

Yeah.

Like just the whole thing.

I think I'm still going to stick to like spreading the gospel of the Lisa Vanner Pump hatred.

Okay.

But I do agree.

Part of me is like, I'm just who feels.

Part of me is like, who cares?

I don't feel as fervent.

No, I completely agree.

But I still, just because I spent so much of my young adulthood like preaching to my friends why like Lisa Vanderpump was like really like the most menacing pot stir, I just don't think I can go back on my word.

I know.

And also, you know what I think.

But it does feel.

You know what I think endears us to her now?

Her to us?

She's a podcaster.

She's a podcaster.

And like, there's just, we have a warm spot in our heart for fellow podcasters.

That's fair, honestly.

You know?

Yeah.

So,

plus she's having a tough tough tough.

Somebody think about.

She's having a tough week.

Somebody think about.

Yeah.

Okay.

Our fifth and final story.

We just breezed through these because all we want to do is talk about a newsfinder.

It's such an interesting sports celebrity news story.

Okay, also, can I just interject with like one story that I read that I thought was really interesting and I meant to send to you?

Sure.

So the...

The founder of Cameo, that app, went on a podcast and was just talking about like the success of Cameo and how like celebrities are making real money.

And he said that this year, the number one earner, I want you to guess, who made over a million dollars in his own sales, like after commissions

from Cameo.

Oh, fuck.

Yeah.

Because I would have said a real housewife.

It's so shocking.

Number, Spencer Pratt.

Nope.

Is he even on Cameo?

I don't know, but like, it's not even in that realm.

Not reality TV.

No.

Someone in the sports world then?

No, I don't know what made me think of it.

Okay, I don't know.

Kevin from the office, Brian Baumgartner.

I mean, like, I would never even know what that was.

Doesn't that actually make a lot of sense like when you think about it?

Yeah.

And on the podcast, the founder was like, he takes like so much pride in his cameos.

Like, he like makes them real works of art.

And he doesn't just, you know, put a 10-second video together.

And I thought that was really interesting.

That is really an interesting factoid.

Yeah, Brian Baumgartner.

Yeah.

He made a million dollars on cameo this year.

Congratulations.

Good for you.

Okay, our fifth and final story, a little sports celebrity news.

Cody Simpson says he qualified for the Olympic swimming trials.

He's going to the Olympics.

On behalf of Australia?

Or on behalf of Australia?

Damn it.

On Saturday, he said that he had qualified for his first Olympic trials.

Sorry, trials.

Yeah, he's not going to the Olympics.

He's going to the police.

He's going to the Olympics trials.

Yeah.

Olympic trials.

He said, I'd love to share this personal milestone and let you in on my current journey as an athlete that I've kept relatively low-key until now.

He said he...

He posted this on Instagram.

He said, I've had the chance to experience and learn so much as a musician and touring around the world, releasing albums, performing as a leading man on Broadway, publishing a work of poetry.

Oh my God, humble brag.

This is a little obnoxious.

Yeah.

And now he's qualifying for the Olympics in 2021.

Wow.

I mean, I do wish it was for America so that sexy washboard ab could be like an American hero.

But I do understand that he's Australian and that's not how these things work.

Happy for him.

I mean, this does seem like, I don't know if you could just like wake up and decide to be an Olympic swimmer.

I think these are things like you do since like you're nine.

I don't know, ask Michael Phelps.

But I appreciate his

passion.

Yeah, he said for years he'd been fueled by the silent fire in my stomach of returning to my first love, the sport of swimming, with the idea that he's also promoting his poetry book while you're writing.

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So he's promoting his poetry book.

With the idea that, well, no, inadvertently, just by using poetic language in his Instagram connection.

With the idea that 2020 would be the year he'd start trying again.

After only five months back in the water with his incredible coach, I was able to take out a win and secure a spot at next year's Australian Olympic trials.

That's crazy.

Some people just like, you know, those people who just try something, try their hand, talent.

Try this.

Talent.

But it's like not really like, that doesn't really happen in the Olympics.

Like, he's just been getting seen.

Like, I woke up one day and five months later I was going to the Olympics.

No, like, I think.

If he actually makes it to the Olympics, I will be incredibly impressed.

Yes, no, but, like, for a, he won the masked singer.

Like, he is a very talented

celebrity.

Right, that's true.

And for him to also be a super talented athlete, like, Olympics, competing at an Olympic level.

Well, that means that you're the best of the best.

And I just don't, I'm not trying to be skeptical.

I just don't think he can do it.

I don't think he can do it.

I don't think you just wake up and five months later, you're like, okay, maybe if you're lucky, you make it to the trial because you just have that like innate talent.

talent but these are it's like a disgrace to the people who have literally been like swimming since they were nine just to get to the olympics and like this is their year and then speed is speed and you know what he's not doing anything like special or different like he's in that same pool with the same spot i'm saying if he really gets makes it to the the best of the best of the olympic team i will apologize okay but i'm saying even if he doesn't the fact that he who like is so talented in other realms even made it to the olympic trials like no he's a really good swimmer no he's a good swimmer for sure he's like a a tall man in shape and yeah

so and so anyone can just make it to the olympic trials no but it's not the olympics so i'm just saying like if we get to the olympics i will take back what i said but I just think this is like, this is like one of those.

It's so tough to impress.

I've been noticing like celebrities just like keep doing things in other people's, like the Paul brothers, like now becoming UFC fighters when it's like, no, people who have literally been like waiting their whole life to fight Floyd Mayweather.

And now it's like Logan Paul gets to do it when he's been fighting.

It's just like celebrities.

And by the the way, I do it myself as well.

Like, I not like categorizing myself as like a celebrity, but like, you know, I just release music because I feel like it, even though I'm not a singer.

Like, it's just like a thing.

It's like celebrities just like keep like doing things and like getting to like the best of different industries just because they're celebrities.

Right.

And I agree with you on that point.

Even I think it's based on talent.

But this is just completely based on talent, has nothing to do with the fact that he's a celebrity.

No.

Maybe.

No, no.

I don't know how it works in Australia, but I'm just saying, if he gets to the Olympic,

no

trials,

I will take back what I said.

But for now, it's just like Cody Simpson,

sit down.

No, but like, he's still remarkably skilled, and nothing about being a celebrity, like, got him that time in that pool.

I don't know.

It got him, like, the, like,

whatever.

No, I hear what you're saying.

Like, but I also think that he's like, him being a celebrity, like, he got a fancy coach.

Like, you know what I mean?

He put in the work, but, like, I don't know.

I just, I don't really feel like I can really make a statement yet until I know if he you made the team okay but I just want to say this becomes a trend of like celebrities becoming Olympians becoming Olympic athletes

I'm here for it now that breakdancing is an Olympic sport we're well you know what's interesting about celebrities becoming Olympic athletes is like because Olympic athletes are also celebrities that and basketball is a winter or right right summers summer Olympic sport and like the best of um American NBA players usually play for the American Olympic team and actually sometimes foreign NBA players like play for their home countries and it's like weird to be playing your teammates.

But that's also weird because those are celebrities.

Like LeBron James is a celebrity.

And him being an Olympian, it's like, he's honestly too famous for the Olympics.

No, like, it was crazy.

I remember when they all went to the last Olympics.

And I remember when, like, Chloe and Lamar were together together.

I think Lamar went to the Olympics.

I think he did as well.

While they were together.

And it is crazy to see your favorite celebrities in the Olympics.

And that's what I'm saying.

100%.

I'm just saying I'm not convinced.

That's all I'm saying.

Well, you know what?

We'll keep you posted.

I need to find out when the Australian Olympic trials trials are.

We'll stream it.

Because you know what?

We'll know if he made it, but we won't know if he didn't.

No, 100%.

If you never hear from us again, he didn't make it

in regards to this story.

You know what?

But, Cody, I just want to let you know.

Like, I'm rooting for you.

No, I'm rooting for America.

No, but, like, I would love to see Cody Simpson at the Olympics.

That would just, like, give us a level of Olympics coverage, celebrity Olympics coverage that we need.

Can I tell you how much I love the Olympics?

I know.

And we were gypsed this year.

Yeah.

I'm sorry.

That's not a word I should be using anymore.

No, I just learned.

By the the way, I also just learned that too.

It's

offensive to gypsies.

Yeah.

So I'm sorry.

And we're I feel like a lot of people don't know that.

Yeah, no, I didn't know it until recently.

We do.

What I was going to say about the Olympics is like, I never feel more like...

Renek, I love America than I do when the Olympics are on.

I'm like, you know, like running around with my shirt off, like with

an American flag painted on my belly.

Like, I just, it's the best time of year.

Like, some people love the holiday season, and I do too, but I love, especially summer Olympic season.

Yeah, I totally agree.

I mean, you get Olympics this year, which is cool.

Winter's cool too, just as for the winter.

No, winter is like a really close second, but nothing beats summer and like Michael Phelps and the swimming.

No, and the gymnastics.

Gymnastics.

But honestly, I really actually enjoy like all those weird skiing sports.

Yeah, very cool.

Yeah.

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the rope reunion was on last night the women really looked fabulous you know collectively they looked really good and then when you zoomed in a little bit more everyone's outfit was like a little fucked.

Like Wendy's dress like kept falling over on like her right like breast

like thing was just like falling over.

I didn't notice Robin's hair until her zoomed in thing and it was very confusing.

Ashley, love you.

The inside of your cape was just absolutely awful.

Best dressed is Queen Monique and Queen Karen Huger.

Yes.

And you know, I have to give her credit.

Candice did look pretty cute.

Candice actually always looks very good.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I didn't think like the looks, I thought again, I feel like if you look at all the Potomac reunions, like it's just not great.

But I feel like this.

And I don't like that they all wore the same color.

I think that's like such a weird, like I like the idea of it, but then in practice, it's like, I don't know, I feel like they could have worn the same hue or like same

colors.

Yeah, it is like they were like bridesmaids, whereas I feel like sometimes, you know, I feel like in New Jersey, they all wear sparkles, but there's silver, there's gold, there's rose gold, there's a million different things.

To all wear like this shade of yellow, I thought was strange.

I actually liked it because, first of all, I think when they took the photos and like they all just looked like this like unit.

But then what I really liked is like because they're really all given like the same exact guidelines, we really get to see like who doesn't know how to dress and who knows how to dress.

That's true.

And the fact that we spent almost half the reunion last night like diving in on Giselle's awful style in terms of fashion and awful home decor style led by Karen Huger like and the viewers and the viewers are really are vocal about it.

Like nothing gives me more joy than like five, what is it, six seasons now?

Like we've just been like skirting around this issue and now and now we said it.

And now we said it.

And really like Karen was being so funny.

And Giselle like really didn't have a defense.

And it is so weird.

And I think what Wendy said, she's definitely onto something that Giselle is like too pretty.

Pretty girl.

She's pretty girl syndrome.

She doesn't like, she's never had to like work that hard in those other areas because like she's so stunning, she could wear whatever she wants.

Yeah.

I personally relate to that.

I mean, because I've just been like so beautiful my whole, whole life.

Like people just used to treat me so differently.

They still do.

I relate to that.

Like I really don't have to try because I'm so stunning.

No, but Karen was just so on point with

amazing.

And I thought that, obviously, the end of the episode, Giselle had nothing to say for herself.

But I even thought in the beginning when Karen and Giselle were doing their thing of just like insulting each other and just

doing that.

I thought Karen was so on point.

And Giselle really had nothing to say.

And so she was just like saying the same thing over and over, just like sort of mocking Karen, but like wasn't actually contributing, like didn't have any like insults in her back pocket, except for like the Geritol comment.

But then like Karen turned it on her.

That's Geritol.

I'm assuming it's an old age medication.

This is why Karen Huger is the absolute queen because she said that's Aegis, and she mispronounced Aegis.

And so Wendy corrected her.

And Wendy was definitely being condescending when she corrected her.

But instead of like fighting with Wendy, she said, What was it, Wendy?

Aegis.

Thank you, honey.

Like, it was just so smart.

Like, she didn't get sidetracked.

She's an amazing fighter.

Like, you know what I mean?

And last night's episode really, for me, like, showed,

was like emblematic of how I've been feeling this whole season where it's like Karen Huger is like the absolute queen gets no no respect and Giselle like has questions for everybody but answers to nobody no and so we need to just talk about the annihilation moment of the night when Monique came with her binder and it's always like when someone starts bringing up printed out text messages like it's like a joke But she came prepared because she had this story of Jamal's girlfriend.

And if she had said it with nothing to back it up, people would have been like, oh, Monique, you're being crazy.

And then you're just being spiteful.

The look on everyone's faces, everyone knew what she was talking about.

This other female pastor, who is it?

I don't know.

Like, it's Jamal's real girlfriend, I guess.

And he's...

dating and with Giselle for the show.

Right.

Which is just like such a crazy thing to say.

But then it also seems to be very true.

Then Monique read out the phone number.

Giselle had to confirm that that's his phone number.

That was crazy.

And then that made everything else true.

And at first, all the women were like, Monique, what are you doing?

What are you doing?

But then Monique was just spitting factories.

She whacked after fact.

And everyone shut the fuck up because because everyone knows that it's most likely true and like now you can't even deny what monique is saying and giselle for the first time was just like speechless and i hate to see a woman taken down and like a person's relationship like put into question but after all giselle has done over the years like questioning everyone's marriage baby like she's just so she's always stirring the pot and like really putting people in uncomfortable situations and it's like you can't have this very confusing relationship no matter what you believe like they he cheated on her he has the her just Giselle's dad said he has children with like six other women like six to seven seven to seven is the most recent so it's like you can't help but question it so it's like Giselle when you are sitting on this like you should really be quiet about other people saying yeah just so nobody comes prying into your business no it's the golden rule don't dish it out if you can't take it 100%

so just to finally see like Giselle be like really just put in her place it felt so good and I feel like everyone who's ever been like interrogated by Giselle just like was living like I know Ashley and Karen like they were just living for it living for it and I I can't believe Giselle allowed herself to react like that like yeah she had nothing like she couldn't even retort she had nothing to say like her silence was confirmation she always has something to say she always yeah like she could have just gone back and forth and she just like I don't know.

She had,

that's what I'm saying.

Even with Karen, like she just didn't have like the fight in her.

Like, I don't know.

I also thought that the way that they're sitting is very strange because usually it's like side versus side.

So it would have been like Wendy, Giselle, Robin, and Candace, and then the other three.

But I feel like because they're so far apart, they actually had to put people who are fighting like next to each other.

Because if Wendy is screaming at Karen, they're literally like 30 feet apart because they're so separate because of COVID.

Yeah.

So I did think it was weird that Robin was sitting there.

I couldn't, when they were zooming in on people, like I couldn't get a sense of like who's next to who.

I didn't like mind it so much.

But yeah, it definitely, they're like taking some learnings from a New York reunion where Andy was all the way there.

Like they tried to do the circle.

And I think it is going as best as it possibly could.

In regards to the conversation about Wendy's degrees, I did have a lot to say because

I kind of like

agreed with Wendy because she's like, that's just like so a part of our culture.

And like, I hate to blame it on like a cultural difference, but I kind of understood what she was saying.

And I know like in certain like cultures, like your education is everything.

So you keep bringing it up.

So I kind of understood that, but I wish she addressed Ashley's very well-said claim that it's like, it's not about you bragging.

It's like you use it to put others down.

Yeah.

And like you bring it up when literally no, she's like, I feel like I bring it.

Wendy said, I have to bring it up because I need to defend myself because people are talking about it.

But then Ashley's like, wait, when we were at Candace's, when we were at Monique's Lake House, like you just brought it up because like literally nobody said anything.

So it's like, I wish she just would have addressed.

the way that she uses it to put other people down because I did appreciate her explaining why she brings it up so much, but that doesn't help me understand.

Obviously, she doesn't see it that way.

You know, so I do.

Yeah.

It was an interesting conversation.

I'm glad that she talked about it because I feel like that's when I've been watching and then like looking on Twitter, that's like how everyone feels.

Yeah.

And she's funny.

And it's funny, but it does make sense if it is a cultural difference.

And also, like, she should be extremely proud.

Yeah, exactly.

Like, I would be.

Did you think that Karen Huger really like spoke to Robin and Giselle on the plane home from Portugal and said, like, we need Wendy off the show?

I don't think she said it like that.

And also, from what I've seen on the show, I know that Giselle is not reliable in a game of telephone.

Felusie freelance.

Okay, we need to talk about that.

Right?

So, like, why would I say if Giselle said that Karen said something, I know for a fact that Giselle misremembers or misrepeats or adds things that weren't there.

She adds color, she paints a little bit.

Right.

So, given that, no, I don't believe I maybe the sentiment of like Wendy isn't a good cast member, or she's not like a, she's not jiving with the group, or like she's not contributing, like, maybe she said something to that effect, but not in the way that Giselle said it.

And so, I'm gonna believe Karen.

I agree.

I feel like literally, this whole because we finally have

on camera, like in sequence, the fluzy freelancer thing, we saw what Karen said verbatim.

We saw what Giselle then repeated to Wendy.

This is like, and she's, and when they called her out on the reunion, she's like, oh, I just added one word.

And I'm so grateful Andy was like, no, no, you added the most important words.

Because otherwise she just called her a freelancer, which is her job for a living.

So it's like, that, that, the whole thing bothered me so much.

And I remember watching it and being like, she didn't call her a fluzy freelancer.

And it never came to blow.

But now that we're sitting down at the reunion, like re-watching footage, I was so glad.

And that is proof that, like, literally, I don't think I could ever believe anything Giselle ever says.

Yeah, if she says someone said this, I know for certain that they didn't.

And you know what?

Karen has not lied to me.

And I feel like she definitely has lied to the other women.

I didn't invite Monique, but then she comes on her confessional.

She's like, Yeah, she doesn't lie to us.

Yeah, right.

She doesn't lie to us.

So if Karen said she said this and not that, I'm going with Karen.

And you know what?

Wendy is like, Wendy, Giselle, the four of them, they're so obsessed with just like being against Monique that Wendy should actually be mad at Giselle.

Giselle called her a floozy freelancer.

That means Giselle came up with the word floozy.

That means in her brain, because Karen didn't say it, Giselle thinks that Wendy is a floozy freelancer.

Yeah, that was not

delved into enough for me.

And like, that required an apology to both Karen and Wendy, which I don't think that we got.

No, but Wendy's just so obsessed with like being in this crew of four women who like want to take Monique off the show that they can't fight in between themselves.

Yeah, they can't be in between themselves.

They're losing sight of the big picture, which is Monique.

Yeah.

Also, I love Chris Andrews.

Did you notice how Ashley's hair was straight and then curly?

No.

So in the beginning, like the first 10, 15 minutes, Ashley's hair was like blown out straight.

And then when they cut to her again, she has like ringlet curls.

And then again, it's like straight.

Like she changed her.

So.

It's my understanding that they couldn't get touch-ups at all.

So they did like a big chunk and then a long break where they got lunch and hair and makeup touch-ups.

And then the rest.

Okay.

So maybe they cut a piece from the back.

Or the back end and put it in the middle.

Yeah, I was thinking that because I was noticing like a lot of them were shiny and I noticed that on Real Houses of New York too.

And that's because usually when they take a break, like their hair and makeup people come to the set and just touch them up.

But because of COVID, they're not even allowed on set.

So they only got one big one and Ashley changed her hairstyle, which like is crazy.

Which is a crazy thing to do.

Yeah, I love Chris Samuel so much.

Like when they were just like praying and I just can't wait for him to come out.

Oh my God.

Candace, when she was like, Andy was like, I heard you moved out of your house.

She's like, well, we'll have to wait for Chris to get here to talk about it.

So it's like, okay, I don't know why you need your husband there to announce it.

But sure.

But okay, obviously there's something Chris needs to be here for, so we'll wait.

But then she gave it up.

And then I would have said they bought a house.

Yeah.

And then, um, and then she was like, and we're still thinking about having a baby.

Like, and he was like, have you made a decision?

She's like, yeah, we're still thinking about it.

Maybe you'll hear something soon.

How is no one going to call her out on like the fact that she had a fake storyline?

Like, we literally need, you know, who we need?

Megan King Edmonds.

No, um,

Jennifer Aiden, like she did to Melissa.

Yeah.

With the sister and the baby.

You know what?

What Lucanis is doing?

That's so true.

By the way, that's so funny because there's like brands of half, like Megan Megan King Edmonds' brand is like, if there's a mystery to solve, like you're getting Megan King, Detective Edmonds, Detective Edmonds.

But you're really, you're right.

Like, if there's a fake storyline to be called out, it's Miss Jennifer Aiden.

Yeah.

Because that's what Candace is doing.

And like, it's so

apparent, but like, no one will call her out on it.

And honestly, I didn't even think that that was what Melissa Gorga might have been doing until Jennifer Aiden.

And I'm like, oh, totally.

Yeah, because like I love Melissa Gorga, but like that season was a little silly for her.

Like the sister, the sister, the mysterious sister.

And yeah.

It's just like such a weird storyline, incredibly weird.

Um, so all in all, part one reunions are usually never that good.

Like, it was really,

it's like I just feel like we're gearing up, and I'm so happy for Monique because obviously, she's been totally sidelined during the season, and like, even in the beginning, she didn't even chime in.

It's like she's a friend of, like, she's not even there, and the women just have completely written her off.

But she's coming back better than ever.

And as a Monique Stan, this is what I've been waiting for this whole time.

I felt like so good.

I thought Andy's question about about like colorism as it pertains to like the way some of the women describe like Monique and just like the like the physical behavior.

I thought that was a really interesting conversation and one that I feel like we've been you know thinking about when discussing this fight and how like terms like aggressive and

what was the other word they said?

Well Monique had said

no Wendy was saying Ferocious.

Thank you.

Ferocious and aggressive are just like not words.

And then Andy was like asking like questions that I was wondering too, like what, so what are appropriate words?

And Wendy was like, just use a dictionary.

Like, I thought that was a really interesting conversation.

And honestly, I never even really knew what colorism was within the black community until Potomac because they used to talk about it a lot.

Yeah, they used to talk about it a lot.

And I remember when I was reading Gabrielle Union's book, it was something that came up a lot and I learned a lot about it.

And so it was interesting to hear them comment on it.

if they feel that it has played a part in the way that the the women talk about each other and or the viewers really talk about the women also just really quickly, the Wendy Slither is probably my favorite

thing from the whole season.

And honestly, it's so funny to watch Karen do it and then immediately watch Wendy do it because, literally, like

same energy.

Same energy.

Like, she literally captured it so well.

Like, I was crying.

Karen's just so funny.

Like, and honestly, it's upsetting that she, like, gets no fucking respect.

No, I know.

The Wendy Slither was so funny.

And only because like Karen did it so well, like the way she imitated it.

It's perfect.

It's like the same exact energy.

And honestly, I would have never thought twice about the way that Wendy walked down the stairs.

And like, I feel like Karen might have not even seen the way she walked down the stairs, just that she was coming up.

But like the fact that she caught that, it was just so funny.

No, it's, it's literally like peak comedy.

Like it's hilarious.

So I just can't wait for part two and three.

And we're not going to be podcasting, but like just know.

But after part three, I feel like we'll have a recap of

everything so we'll know where we're at.

It's what's in the binder.

Are they going to take a Christmas break?

Maybe.

Maybe.

Okay.

And then Real House of the Valeno, which I'm having like a hard time getting into the groove of because it's such a shift.

Like Nini being gone like actually left like a seismic, is that the right word?

Mm-hmm.

It depends what you are going to say.

Hole.

Shift.

Hole.

Shift.

Like a gap.

A sizable.

A sizable.

Like there's an energy shift for sure.

And it's just not being made up up for with like Marlo, Latoya, and Drew.

Even though that final conversation with Drew and her husband was crazy.

I'm like, damn, these people are really like opening up on reality television.

Yeah.

And on the one hand, I'm like, it's kind of annoying when a couple goes on TV to fight or get divorced, but I don't feel like that's where they're headed.

I think this is just their relationship.

Same.

And it's just really interesting and honest.

I agree.

And London, I hate that shit.

So it was like.

It got really personal.

And then by the end, I was just like sad.

Yeah.

And the cameras, like, that was just crazy.

Yeah.

But I actually like Drew.

I feel feel like Latoya was being really, like, unnecessarily mean to her.

And Drew is a full housewife.

Latoya, I believe, is just a friend of.

And to me, it's just like so clear.

Latoya is like bending over backwards to get on a full-time cast member rotation.

Yeah.

She's obviously like on a trial period.

Yeah.

And it could go either way.

I think she's really cute, but she was just like giving me such bad vibes.

Like.

just like annoying energy.

I feel that.

I also feel like when there's like two new people and then they start fighting, but it's like everyone else around them is like a vet.

It just felt like a season one sort of motif.

It honestly felt like a season one party.

Like

all the girls are getting to know each other and someone said something about their relationship that you can poke fun at.

Oh my god, I've been getting like such crazy nosebleeds and I literally is my nosebleeding.

I heard you've been getting crazy nose jobs.

I know.

No, but like I'm smelling blood in my nose, but I don't see anything.

No, I'm just being dramatic.

Doesn't mean it's not there.

So

yeah, honestly, what I find most interesting about Real Houses of Atlanta is their homes.

I'm obsessed with Sylvia's house.

Like Bailey, yeah.

And you know who like actually for so many seasons in Atlanta, it was like this huge conversation, like everyone naming their homes and like who could build a nicer home.

Chateau Sharai.

I love the idea.

I'm a center home.

Yeah, but it's like they all used to come at each other being like, you have no money.

Like, and everyone came for Kenya when like her home literally popped up out of nowhere.

She built it in like a day.

And honestly, it really has stood the test of time.

It's really very well done.

Yeah.

But on, like, whatever happened to Chateau Charae?

I don't know, but I like how things name their homes.

Yeah.

By the way, Lake Bailey is like so nice.

It's the place to be.

Yeah.

And

Latoya being like, it's a river.

No.

And yeah.

And like her insistence on river i'm just like no it's a lake like it's not the fun you're not gonna insult cynthia yeah um but to be honest i felt like when they were all at the um wine tasting party and marlo got up to get more wine with latoya i feel like she literally gave latoya like the best piece of advice and latoya didn't hear it no and i feel like

Marlow really summed up what it is about Kenya that like makes her so toxic and it's so true like she cozies up to you learns things about you and then will use it again I always have felt that she has some weird information on Cynthia because Cynthia is such a good good friend to her for like no reason.

And Cynthia's friendship with Nini was like a huge problem.

Like I just, I've always felt that like there's just something off about Kenya and I can't put my finger on it.

And in two seconds, Marlowe completely illustrated what it is.

Right.

But when she said it, and from what we got of Latoya's reaction, I don't think she heard her because she was like, oh, so I shouldn't take advice from her.

No, that's not it at all.

You should just like have your guard up and just keep some things to yourself.

And I don't think she got it.

Even though I do feel what you were saying last week, there is like a little shift in the way I feel about Kenya.

I do think she's more

humbled.

100%.

And she's like, I think a lot of people are confused about why she's being so carefree with Latoya.

But I kind of understand that when you meet someone who just changes your vibe, I don't think there's anything weird about that.

I'm just so cautious of Kenya.

For sure, for sure.

She's just, she's not.

who she says she is.

Like, and I really believe that.

Okay.

No, I hear what you're saying.

And I also feel like Latoya is in the exact same situation that she's in, like separated.

And just like, it's nice to have a friend.

It's nice to have a friend.

Yeah.

So honestly, nothing has been really happening.

I feel like there's this like big blow-up moment with just the bachelorette party and you feel like the stage is being set.

Yeah.

But I actually thought it was like crazy seeing Riley graduate from college.

And that's like a thing with housewife

kids is like you really can tell how long you've been watching the show.

Like I remember Avery singer in middle school, you know what I mean?

And I remember Riley when she was so young and like reconnecting with her dad.

Like it's actually just like a true testament because like the housewives get so much plastic surgery they all look the same like since season one and it's just crazy like when you see housewife kids like all grown up especially ones that like started filming when they were like an awkward age like yeah that was ali shapiro um avery and riley and now she's like all grown up going to nyu and like that's just crazy like for me like how long i've been watching housewives yeah totally i loved she looked so cute at her graduation like yeah just such a cutie also candy was like mia from the whole episode um oh yeah but speaking of avery um she posted on her instagram story that she applied to go on the bachelor avery Singer, Mario to go on the Bachelor.

Ashre sent, or maybe Olivia Austray sent it to me.

And then someone else sent me that on Mac James' season, there's like a socialite on it, and she's Cynthia Rowley's daughter.

Yeah.

So now I just feel like what once was like a really embarrassing thing to do with a good payoff is now like becoming like a...

Cool thing to do like go on the bachelor like Cynthia Rowley.

What what the hell do you need to be going on the bachelorette for?

Yeah, no, it's still not to promote your other

cool thing to do

But I feel like there were some people, like a few select people who would not see it that way.

Like high society.

Yeah.

And now like society, but we'll see.

We'll get to know her.

Society is calling.

Society is calling.

But I think Avery should go on the bachelorette.

I actually think she's a good contender.

Yeah.

Interesting.

Well, those are the housewives recaps that you definitely need to know.

You definitely needed to know them.

And honestly, I feel like a lot of people who listen to our show, like, maybe don't watch housewives and just like listen recaps for fun.

And sometimes people ask us, like, how would, there's so many houses like, how should I get started?

And to be honest, a really easy way to get started is watching Salt Lake City because it's season one and there's only a few episodes.

But honestly, so many people I know have really picked up Potomac during quarantine because it has like the fewest amount of seasons.

And I think this is the end of the sixth season or fifth.

I don't know.

Fifth or sixth.

And it's just like easy.

And it's really, I was like reevaluating everything last night.

Like as it stands right now, I would say Potomac and Beverly Hills are my top two.

New York is no longer a part of it.

Oh, for sure.

No, I picked up Potomac in quarantine.

It was so much fun to watch.

And if you're looking for a place to start, I would say that's an amazing place.

Potomac is definitely amongst my top three.

I would have to think, like, actually, yeah, probably Potomac, Beverly Hills, and we'll see about Dallas.

Yeah.

Oh, but Salt Lake City, but it's too soon to say that.

It's too soon.

Yeah.

Like, you have to have history in order to get to the top three.

But I also love New Jersey when it's on.

It depends on the season.

Yeah.

And same with New York.

And same with OC.

OC probably is my least favorite of all time.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Ever.

Of all time.

Bring back the Real House Lives I was in Miami.

That's all I have to say.

I just don't understand how Real House Wise of Miami got canceled.

Like, what was so bad about it that it like that it got canceled and OC doesn't, you know?

Yeah, no, 100%.

It doesn't make sense.

Because to me, Real Houses of Miami had the perfect combination of like, you know, Thirst Monsters, real money.

Leah Black had real money.

Lisa Hochstein had real money.

Thirst monsters, like Adrienne, was that her name?

Who got married and like was four hours late to her own wedding.

And then they did Joanna Krupa.

Thirst monster.

Then they did that

live reunion, which was fucking crazy.

They recorded the whole thing live.

Like, it was really a revolutionary franchise, and it was just like randomly canceled.

And nothing was like.

Larsa was on it.

Larsa was on it.

Except the only downfall was that woman, Karen, who was a dentist, and had her name wasn't Karen.

It was Karen.

And I just never understood why that was her name.

That's so funny.

When I was going to text you last night when we were talking about Potomac, I was about to be like, when Karen was like being everything, I was about to be like, Karen.

Why?

Like, just because of Karen.

No, I know.

She was literally.

She was literally like the worst.

But then that girl, Alexia, remember, she was great.

And they all had really nice houses.

I just don't know.

Like, I just want an explanation.

I want to see, like, the Q scores as to why that was canceled and other franchises aren't.

Right, like, I understood why the real house size of a DC was canceled.

Yes.

Even though it was excellent when that couple like showed up to the White House uninvited.

But was, did it Bravo catch that or they just like started filming after that had happened and she happened to be that person?

No, Bravo caught it.

Remember, they were like in the limo, like holding a fake invitation.

Oh, my God.

I think.

I just didn't watch it.

I just saw a clip and Andy was talking talking about it.

Yeah, no, they literally caught it on camera.

They pretended they were invited to like some inauguration.

Yeah.

I don't even know who was president back then, probably Obama, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And they like pretended they were invited and they like couldn't get through the gates

of the West Swing.

It was, that was like a, it sounds like a good show because of that one moment, but it wasn't anything of the sort.

No, I didn't watch it, so I wouldn't know.

Yeah.

I just remembered that.

So

if you're looking for something to do over Christmas break, Potomac and Salt Lake City are a great place to start.

And that's our show.

Anything you want to say before you wrap up?

By the way, every time I say before we wrap up, you know what I think of?

Motormouth, Maybelline, and Hairspray.

It's time to wrap this mother up.

Yeah, it is time.

It's time to wrap this mother up.

No, I have nothing, I have nothing to say.

Just we'll see you tomorrow, everyone.

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