S3 Ep145: The Statute of Reboot Limitations: Wednesday, September 9th, 2020

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Good morning millennials.

Welcome back to the morning toast.

Happy Wednesday.

That means it's hump day

Which means you get to hump someone and you also get a fabulous new episode of the morning toast.

We missed you guys.

This is our final weekly episode.

You guys, I'm so excited.

I really am excited to get back in studio and to be doing the damn thing, in the words of Becca Kufrin, to be doing the damn thing every single day.

But this month has just been, like, I literally, like, you can hear the smile.

You can hear the smile in my words.

This month has been pure joy, pure elation, and pure inner peace.

You said it, Jackie.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

But while that is sadly coming to an end starting this upcoming Monday, which is crazy, we'll be back.

Crazy.

We're doing five shows a week, back to our normal thing, pre-recorded.

So no worries.

I think a lot of people were genuinely like shook that we were never coming back, which honestly, I could feel because like we're just living our best lives.

I could feel too because like I thought about it.

I'm thriving.

Like it's hard for me to go from a situation where we're thriving completely back into the hamster wheel.

But you know what?

That's life.

And it's like we always say, you know, the good times aren't as good when you don't put in the work.

100%.

You got to work.

You got to work hard, play hard.

And, you know.

Even though I actually have really liked doing weekly episodes, it's just not us.

Like, we need to talk more.

We need to talk more.

And of course, like right after we dropped Wednesday's episode, like Lala Ken's pregnant.

And I do have this sense of FOMO when it comes, when like there's big news happening in the world and like we don't have a show the next day.

So on the one hand, it is nice sometimes to have time to like ruminate with our thoughts.

Yes.

But then on the other hand, we're not talking about like the things that we live to talk about.

And like some of the, like literally, they announced the Dancing with the Stars cast the second we sat down from recording last week's episode.

And at this point, it's old news, but I do have a lot of thoughts on it.

So we're obviously going to talk about it anyway.

But, you know, the weekly episode model, it's not perfect, but but you know the week the daily episode model it is so basically what we're trying to say in a very long-winded way is that we're back on Monday and we're excited to be back but but we must say like there is value in the weekly episodes because like we said last week we got time to like live with some of these stories and figure out how we feel about them but spoiler alert i pretty much feel the same way like yes of course and also my my opinion on something only changes like after i've regurgitated my initial opinion like once i've gotten it out there then i then i think about it more but like when it's just in my head it doesn't really change that much that's funny.

My opinion changes.

I'm like such a follower and like a sponge.

Like I'll form an opinion on a story and then like I'll talk to someone who either has like a totally different opinion on it or just gives like a unique perspective and like I'll just adopt their perspective.

Like whatever comes out of my mouth is usually something like I heard from a friend.

I don't know.

I feel like sometimes it depends on that friend and you value their opinion.

So like you don't just like take, you're not any old sponge.

Like you don't just absorb anything.

I absorb like clean, fresh, smart water.

But I do also think that sometimes you hear someone's opinion and it makes you even more firm in your own.

You're like sometimes that's crazy.

Yeah, sometimes.

Stupid.

That's true.

Yeah.

But again, what we're trying to say is we'll see you guys on Monday back in studio, audio, video, the whole thing.

But thank you guys for giving us this time off.

We've enjoyed it immensely and I feel as though for the health of the show.

It was what we needed to do.

It was what we needed to do.

And also, like, even though we're only doing weekly episodes, like Patreon has been popping off literally and physically.

People are literally saying that they feel spoiled by our content.

I've heard multiple people say that.

That is not something that I came up with.

That was, you know, customer feedback.

Customer feedback.

We've been just giving our all to the Patreon and taking you guys behind the scenes on our trip with us.

We just put out a video last week where Claudia and I learned the WAP dance for TikTok.

And

so hard.

It was so hard.

The video is so hilarious.

Every time I think about like certain things, I just laugh to myself, which is the hallmark of a good video.

100%.

Also, the hallmark of a good video is that you physically feel the ramifications of the video.

Not one, not two, but three days later.

Like I literally was so sore.

My thighs were aching.

I've never felt soreness like that in my life because the dance is so labor intensive.

And I have so much respect for the dancers and so much respect for ourselves for actually doing it.

We actually didn't do a terrible job.

We didn't do a terrible job.

Like from the top, you made it drop.

And it was, in fact, a wet-ass pussy.

It was confirmed.

Because I was sweaty as fuck.

Sab, I can't.

So check that out, patreon.com slash a morning toast.

And if you're looking for more content, My comedy special is always there for you.

What is there?

Apple TV, Amazon, Prime, literally, any streaming service.

You want to rent, you want to purchase, you want to own, you do your thing.

Disgraced Queen is what it's called.

Thank you to everyone who has watched it during this time off.

Keep tagging me in your stories.

Makes me feel cool, and I appreciate it.

And speaking of other content, if you're looking to consume some, The Redheads, it is always a wonderful, fantastic, fabulous time to become a Redhead.

September really is back to school, and so I really do feel like for those of us who are no longer in school, like The Redheads is the perfect thing to give you that back to school vibe.

I'm choosing this month's book.

It's The Unraveling of Cassidy Holmes, which is

seems really good, but it's also like about a girl group, pop culture sort of thing.

I've heard it's very similar to Daisy Jones and the Six, which is a beloved book.

So join the Red Hats.

It's never too late.

And it's never a bad time.

Oh, never a bad time.

Never.

A wise woman once said that.

I can't think of like what could be a bad time.

Speaking of time, like we're in such a weird time, curious time.

Speaking of time,

we're in such a strange part of the year now, especially given the fact that Claudia,

it's October.

Well, so yeah, so summer is really over because Labor Day is over, and now we're like in September and it it's always a weird time of year, but given, you know, the extraordinary circumstances we're all living through right now, it feels even more weird.

And I was watching TV yesterday and I was watching Freeform and they literally started promoting their 31 nightship of Christmas Halloween.

Yeah, yeah.

And I was shook.

It's just like

it was March and now it's Halloween.

No, it's insane.

And also like we're planning the rest of the next two weeks, which are coming back to the toast and then it's Roshoshana and Yom Kippur.

And right after Yom Kippur, like it is October.

Like it's almost time to record the next episode of Redheads.

Like, I'm fucking shook.

That's crazy.

I mean, you just even bringing up the words Yom Kippur to me is.

I know, I triggered you.

I'm sorry.

No, and you know that I'm on this like really, really hard journey to inner peace.

And you know that Yom Kippur are the two words that could derail me completely.

For those who don't know, the Jewish holidays are coming up.

The Day of Atonement.

So, Rosh Hashanah is the start of the new Jewish year.

It's a fabulous holiday.

You have to go to Shul, it's a little boring, but there's New Year's food, family, it's celebratory.

It's celebratory.

You get to eat a lot.

It's good.

Which is completely counter to the following holiday.

So like the next week is Yom Kippur, which is like the Day of Atonement.

And it's a really serious, it's the most serious Jewish holiday.

You have to fast 25 hours.

You start the night before.

And it is just like...

My least favorite day.

It is your cross to bear as a Jew.

Do you know?

No, do you know what?

It is my cross to bear as a Jew.

And do you know what my favorite day of the year is?

It's not my birthday.

It's the day after Yom Kippur because then I know I'm 300.

I will never be further away from another Yom Kippur than I am the day after Yom Kippur.

It keep, like, literally throughout the year, like I'll like creep in.

I'm like, oh my God, it's February.

Like, we're so close to Yom Kippur.

It haunts me.

And if you've been a toaster for a while, every year, this time of year, like, we dread, we complain about Yom Kippur.

And it's just, it really starts to affect like this time of the year.

Yeah.

You can't enjoy.

You can't enjoy.

You have to eat everything inside because you're like, one day it will be Yom Kippur.

So now here's my question for you.

Like, obviously, the most most obvious part about why Yom Kippur is a really difficult holiday is the fasting.

But there's so many other levels to it.

So many other.

What would you, I know my answer.

What would you say is besides the fasting part is the hardest part of the day for you?

The breath.

Yes, I was going to say this.

The morning, afternoon, evening breath.

Depending on how religious you are, like you're really not supposed to have anything in your mouth.

So most people don't actually brush their teeth, which is absolutely insane.

And even if they do, brushing your teeth in the morning and not eating anything, anything for 25 hours, like brushing your teeth is not going to help.

Your breath is is still stanky.

So it's just like, you go to shul, like you run into people, like it is just breath central.

It's the YKB.

It's the Yom Kippur breath.

And if you've never smelt it, I'm just

lucky, okay?

Yeah.

So that's where my head's at.

Like, I, I just, it's, Russia Jones is like such a nice holiday.

It's like, you're like, you're undoing like weeks of inner peace work.

Oh, shit.

And you need to stop talking about it because, by the way, like, it's kind of, it's in two weeks to three weeks.

And we're mate, we're prolonging it by talking about it longer.

Okay, no, you know, it's over.

It's over.

Let's dive in.

Let's dive in.

Let's dive in.

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Okay, before we get into the Fast Five Stories, this is Jackie and Claudia from the future.

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It's the past for you, guys.

It's the past for you.

It's all in the past, but for us, we're the future, Jackie and Claudia from who just said the brush ad.

Yeah.

Because this is a little break in the episode.

The episode will go on as normal.

Don't worry.

But right after we wrap.

And by the way, we always say the second we sit down from recording weekly episodes, we always record the day before.

The second we sit down, there's like some breaking news.

So last week it was the Dancing with the Stars cast.

And we waited till this week, but the news that broke right after we stopped recording, we had to get back on the horn.

It's too much.

To discuss it.

So you're getting a bonus story because Kim Kardashian and co-host has announced that Keeping Up with the Kardashian is going to be ending after 20 seasons, 14 years.

Countless memories.

Countless memories, countless laughs.

It came out of absolutely nowhere.

I thought it was very interesting that it was announced on Kim's social media and then subsequently the sisters, but the news broke on Kim's platform.

They wrote a statement, which was obviously lovely.

We didn't get any information, just basically the show's not coming back.

Yeah, so here's the statement.

Kim said to our amazing fans, it is with heavy hearts that we've made the difficult decision as a family to say goodbye to Keeping Up with the Kardashians.

After what will be 14 years, 20 20 seasons, hundreds of episodes, and numerous spin-off shows, we are beyond grateful to all of you who've watched us for all these years.

You're welcome, Kim.

We've absolutely loved watching.

It has been a pleasure.

We are so grateful to you for participating.

For putting yourself out there.

Through the good times, the bad times, the happiness, the tears, and the many relationships and children, Justice for Chris Humphreys, will forever cherish the wonderful memories and countless people we've met along the way.

So she's saying with love and gratitude, peace the fuck out.

So there's many, many things to unpack here.

If you are an avid Keeping Up with the Kardashians watcher like Jackie and I are, this might not come as a huge shock just because in recent seasons, they've been having a hard time rallying the troops to film.

It's become a point of contention.

It's even become a storyline on the show, which is just so meta.

I can't even.

No, and it's like watching the show.

I never really thought that this was going to be what happened next, but now everything that happened on the show is just like, oh, yeah, of course, after they couldn't get anyone to film anymore, it's over.

But we do know that about 10 years ago, they signed their $100 million.

And we reference this because I remember the day, like, it was yesterday.

Like, it was the biggest news ever.

I remember we always got the newspaper in our house and literally the New York Post front page.

It was like $100 deal, whatever.

$100 deal.

$100 million.

And they've kind of been, and it sounded like so much money at the time, but now knowing like who they are, where they are, what they're worth, the $100 million for like eight of the biggest celebrities in the world to do 10 seasons of a show is actually, like, it sounds crazy, but it's not that much money.

It's not that, it's not enough now, but then like it was an investment, and that's how those things go.

Right.

And it was a great deal on East Part.

And I guess that the contract has officially come to an end, and I just never thought there would be a time where they wouldn't do it.

No, because the way they refer to the show on the show is like the show is the mothership.

Everything stems from the show.

Every success, every venture that they've had, it all starts and stems from the show.

And while it might not be their most lucrative venture, it's really like the nucleus of their whole brand.

Yeah, and it keeps them really relevant.

And when they're always in the news, they never really address anything.

But when the show catches up to real life, we get it all like straight from their mouths but see i've thought about it well not a lot because this only broke like an hour ago but i've thought about it and it's like while that may be a blessing in a lot of circumstances like having your own platform that is huge to set the record straight on so many things sometimes like the the things that they deal with are highly personal whether it's like relationship stuff kids stuff and you don't always want to like be responsible for explaining yourself in your personal matters.

And when you have the show, it's a sword that swings both ways.

Yes, it's an amazing platform to clear up whatever is actually going on.

But also, you also have to explain some things that you might not want to explain because you don't owe everyone everything yeah but i do think sometimes they like pick and choose what they want to focus on and i think that generally speaking like the show has been a net positive for them but you said something interesting when we were talking about it earlier where it's like I feel like on the one hand, this could be like an end of an era.

Like the Kardashians are focusing on their businesses.

They're no longer going to be the first family of reality television.

And like things are about to change.

I want to say that I know what you're going to say because I said it.

But even if this isn't the end of their like TV career, it is still the absolute end of hop culture era.

Because keeping up with the Kardashians, but no, I don't think that that will be the name of anything that they do next.

I think E owns it, and this is the end of one era.

But like in the age of streaming services, and we see these huge, massive fucking deals that people are getting with Netflix, with HBO Max, with Quibi, like there is so much money out there for them.

And maybe this is just a matter of like their contract ran out.

They got a better deal with Netflix.

They're gonna sign a 10-year deal with netflix for a billion dollars they literally could or literally a one-year deal for a hundred million dollars like just the worth and the value of reality stars of their of them of them no both it's the culture it's the culture but then yes of course so i think that either this is like truly the end and they'll still be like the most famous gals in the world um and they still might do different like tv ventures but like this is the end of their family reality show or it's just gonna move to a different platform which at the end of the day they've always been like some of the smartest businesswomen out there and while they never get the credit for it, this could very well be just a good business move.

Because even if they were renegotiating with E, I don't think that E has the funds to match a Netflix.

I don't think E can afford them.

Like, E can't even do e-news anymore.

Well, that's the other thing here.

It's like, where do we go from here as E?

E, in the last month, has lost two of not only the biggest, but most iconic, longest-running shows on their network.

And honestly, on a lot of networks, we lost E-News and we lost Cavillary.

And we lost Very Cavillari.

Oh, yeah, you know, but I'm referring to E-News and keeping up with the Kardashians.

And it just really now, it's an end of an era at E, first of all.

Like it is

now there's literally no programming on that I watched as a kid, which is just weird because you get used to these types and you fall into these patterns.

But I think that while it's all also like a big thing for the Kardashians, like for E, like, I actually don't know where E as a network goes from here.

Like, I feel like every time we report on E, it's like not good news.

No, it's not good news.

I think that I'm sure they're having these same conversations.

I think they have some really good shows.

They have like Daily Pop, Nightly Pop.

They have Total Bellas, which I'm a big fan of.

And I think maybe for E, it's like they have to find the next Kardashians like that's what they do Yeah, I think that Justin and Morgan honestly are like the future of the network in a lot of ways and when it comes to reality TV programming like there's difference between like talk show programming, you know, and I think that it's on E if they're the you know the purveyors of pop as they say that they are like they have to find the next Kardashians and

at a price they can afford.

Yeah, it's just it's just so crazy.

And it honestly is like a little sad, you know, like, well, first of all, I have to say like when the news broke, Margaret wrote in in our family chat like with this within a second of Kim posting on Twitter and I freaked out and I just screenshotted it and posted it on our Instagram and it was the picture of the statement it was black and white text and I guess to a lot of people because this is such crazy news it's not in the realm of people's like we're not even thinking about it why would I think that this statement is about the Kardashians being canceled and I think a lot of people on our Instagram thought at first that it was a statement from us to our amazing fans like we're no longer doing the toast and literally there was 300 comments and this is Tuesday night so I don't know what it's gonna be tomorrow morning of people who who thought that it was us, and you know, like, I don't know how we got to this place where, like, every time we say something, people think we're gonna quit.

No, I know, no, it's like, are we quitters?

No, no, like, you guys, we're not going anywhere, like, no, I know toast is our absolute dream, and I know that it would give you know so much joy.

That's certainly, and that's also why we never,

I'll be doing the toast till the day I die, just to spite some of these nets, like some of these trolls.

Uh, we will never stop, never quit.

Not only do we absolutely love what we do, and like we have a good ass time every fucking day, and like so's our job.

We can't quit, right?

We've got to work.

Also, we just can't ever stop because it would make too many people too happy.

Like, if there's literally one person left listening to Joseph while I'm on my deathbed, like, I'll be live streaming my death.

So, please don't ever.

And I feel like we keep saying this, and I still get so many people being like, Oh my God, literally, people are like, You've been on vacation for so long, you guys, you and Jackie are gonna quit.

Like, no, no, no, no, we're never quitting.

Sorry, guys,

sorry, X-Toasters, but we'll be here for a while.

It's just it is so funny that everyone just like thinks we're about to quit.

And, like, I think, honestly, because a lot of people are like, if I was checking Claudia, like, I'm going to quit.

So they're like, why don't you quit?

Right, right.

So like, I get it, but it's just, I have to say, I don't know how many times or in how many languages we could say it in.

Like, we are not quitting.

Yeah, we are not quitting, but the current passions are crazy.

So enjoy the rest of the episode.

This is

a message from the future.

A message from the future.

Let's get back to the past.

Okay, let's get into the stories.

First story we teased you with a little bit.

Dancing with the stars released their celebrity cast.

And you know what?

It's super top, like, timely.

and premium.

So here are the celebs.

Monica, the head coach from Cheer.

Let's just give our thoughts with each one.

Excellent cast.

Excellent.

She obviously has a leg up.

Yes.

No pun intended.

You and I were speculating that someone from Cheer might be on it, and we thought it might be Jerry.

And I really would have loved to see Jerry, but I think this is great for Monica as well.

Oh, for sure.

Carol Baskin.

So this is what I want to talk about.

Because

I didn't watch Tiger King, but I just want to say, like, what filtered down from the content about Tiger King is that Carol Baskin may or may not allegedly be a murderer.

Right.

So this is where I feel like cancel culture misses all the nuances.

It's like we are so quick to like literally strip someone of all their success and give them no opportunities if we feel like they've made a mistake in saying something wrong or inappropriate or offensive, whether or not they meant it.

Like we're so quick to jump all over them.

And here is Carol Baskin, like pretty much universally believed to be a full-blown murderer.

and we are like living for the fact that she's gonna be on dancing with the stars and don't get me wrong like I'm living for it as well she's a very unique character I don't think she's gonna be a good dancer she dresses strange she's a strange person she saves like tigers for a living she's weird and I get it from the entertainment perspective and I'm definitely gonna be watching and honestly I'm gonna be rooting for Carol like I am but this is where I feel like cancel culture is like in so many ways like such a joke like she is truly

universally believed to be a murderer.

Yeah, I can't speak on it because I didn't watch watch it.

And even as someone who didn't watch it, just hearing that this documentary came out and now everyone thinks that like Carol Baskin killed her husband, whacked him.

And it's like, you're innocent until you're proven guilty.

She was never charged with his murder, even.

So it's also, so on the other, on the flip side, it's like this woman has like murderer attached to her name.

Yes, just because

just because a documentary like painted her in this way.

And I didn't watch it.

So like, I'm just saying from an outside perspective, like, it's damaging on both ways.

100%.

There's There's two very real things going on here.

Like Carol Baskin is either like the most, you know, misunderstood woman in America or like this is just a joke.

And, you know, I'm trying to think of like a similar situation.

And I'm curious to see, like, let's say dead seriously, like they cast OJ Simpson on Dancing with the Stars.

He was proven innocent.

Yeah.

Even though it's widely believed that he did kill Ron and Nicole.

So like, I'm just, I just think it's really interesting.

Like, I'm not saying I agree one way or another.

Of course, I stand firmly in the middle, as always, but like, I just think it's really interesting how it's like, we're so serious about like canceling people, but like,

this is allegedly a murderer, like, dancing her way onto television.

Yeah, but or

it's like the

punishment is much more severe and serious when the crime is not an actual crime.

You know, like, I feel like in Hollywood, like, you are, or just like this industry, like, you are really punished way harsher for saying something bad than you are for doing something 100% like you could get a DUI say right and you you do your community service and and you're working in six months yeah you could have something that you said six years ago come out you will not be working in six months right and it's like there are still you know so many people in Hollywood who have been accused of sexual harassment sexual misconduct and it has relatively unaffected their careers so like I just think this is just to me indicative of what I've always felt about cancel culture and like how it makes no fucking sense and it misses all the nuances.

I know.

I think that's really fair.

But also it could be like justice for Carol Baskin.

Like maybe she just literally didn't kill her husband.

You know, everyone's just believing.

No one bothered to do research beyond the documentary.

We just believed what the documentary told us because we trust Netflix as a content creator.

Yeah.

So I don't know.

I don't have a feeling.

But you have to question everything.

Everything.

You have to question everything.

You have to question her innocence and you have to question her guilt.

You also have to question the documentary itself.

Like it's entertainment, you know?

100%.

And I think with documentaries, like I love a good documentary and it could sway me any which way, but like you have to also remember that sometimes.

It's like they set out with a purpose.

Yeah, or what's the best story?

Like what's going to make, you know, what came from Tiger King is like this really interesting storyline that people are talking about.

And it became like the most watched thing on Netflix because there's all this.

hoopla conversation.

Yeah, so I just think there's like an interesting conversation to be had around Carol Baskin.

But at the end of the day, for entertainment purposes, like I will 100% be watching.

She's, have you, you see her cameos going around?

Like she's a character.

She's insane.

Yeah, she is.

Also, the other cast is great too.

So it's, it's a reason to watch.

Caitlin Bristow finally just for Caitlin Bristow.

So exciting.

So deserved.

She's going to be up there.

She's going to make it pretty far.

I agree.

Vernon Davis, who's a Super Bowl champion.

Fabulous.

Love it.

Anne Haish, the actress.

No idea who she is.

Yes, you do.

She's like just the most actressy actress ever.

Ann Haish.

Yeah.

She is from.

Oh, she's like

she used to date Ellen.

She did?

Yeah.

Right.

Oh, my God.

I don't know her from anything in particular.

She's just like a blonde actress.

She honestly looks like Helen Mirren's stunt double, but like a little bit younger.

Good for her.

Okay.

Yeah.

Seems like kind of a step down from Ellen, but.

Skye Jackson from the Disney Channel.

Absolutely love her.

And she's definitely a good dancer.

Oh, for sure.

Justina Machado, an actress from One Day at a Time.

Okay.

AJ McLean from Backstreet Boys.

You guys might know him because he came on the CMA.

So he said CMA Red Carpet.

We interviewed him.

He's obviously a good dancer.

And him and Caitlin were the two who were announced before the major announcement.

So we knew that he was going to be on.

Jenny Mai from The Real.

That's a great one.

Love a host who gets on dancing with the stars.

I love that The Real is like having this moment.

I totally agree.

It's at the forefront of pop culture right now.

And you know what?

I feel like it's,

it has always been like a good show, and it's really like getting the respect that it deserves.

Jesse Metcalf.

Cheater, cheater, pop cater.

Totally.

Totally.

Okay.

Also known as Yvonne Goria's Gardner in Desperate Housewives.

Yeah, but like nowadays he's best known for being a cheater.

And Olivia Colbo calling him out on it.

Yeah, which is really crazy.

It's a very strange like storyline that like we never really wrapped up.

But here's like the interesting thing about Dancing with the Stars because it's all of these like 2020 characters and like

hasbins.

Yes, of course.

You know, and I do like the mix of it, you know?

Well, I think that the show is at an interesting place in its

life

because it used to be a show that like was hard to get celebrities on and you would really only get people who

on the way down or very, very rarely on the way up and now I feel like the show has become so popular that it's no longer like an embarrassing thing for you to do like as a cash grab it's really a prestigious place to be on and I think that they're no longer a place for has-bins yeah no I think it's exciting for a lot of people yes so that's cool also Nelly that's a great one Neve Shulman from Catfish okay I like don't like Niamh Shulman I know you don't apologize everybody knows that you don't oh really yeah because you saw him in the ham dude oh my god yes well also he unfollowed me on Instagram like back in the day Like he was just like one of the people who followed me and like one day I checked and he unfollowed me and I wondered if it was anything that I did.

And then I also saw him in the Hamptons and he was like being really rude to this bouncer about getting him and his wife into a club.

And then I literally like was reading page six the next day and it turns out they had gotten married the night before.

Oh cute.

And she was wearing a white dress and I think that they were like trying to get into Rush Meyers like as a celebration or something.

That sounds like a nice night for that.

I just didn't like, I hate when people are rude to like.

Yeah.

I

actually, I like the idea of Neve Shulman.

Like I like Catfish.

I actually think it's like an amazing groundbreaking show I don't watch like I like everything in the idea but not the practice yeah like I don't want to watch catfish but like I hope it stays on TV for a long time because it's like so interesting agreed and I love that people get like called out for their atrocious internet behavior because at some point in our culture like it has to be addressed I completely agree Charles Oakley NBA superstar he's in the last dance fabulous Chriselle Stoss from Selling Sunset oh my god by the way we you guys we need to address selling sunset elephant in the room we've like came on this trip like with the intention of watching it because

like it's the talk of the town it looks like so up our alley everyone's telling us to watch it and like we just haven't gotten to it but i think that maybe when we go home and we're like back in in our beds and back in quarantine like we might pick it up yeah but i think both you and i have to watch it now together so we can recap it together and i also think like we really missed it i think so too but like there's gonna be another season right yeah i mean even though and now I don't even really, I know it's about like selling things on sunset, but I don't really know like the full premise of the show.

But now seeing all these articles come out like about staged and the wedding was fake, like

and Justin Hartley.

There's a thing there.

They were married.

I don't know.

So I just feel like I know too much, but I also know nothing.

Yeah, no, I think we would really enjoy it if we could just like make carve out the time.

Agreed.

And Johnny Weir, who is an Olympic finger skater and on-air commentator.

And he also, he used to judge, was it skating with the stars?

Yes, he's been like around the

circuit for a while, doing odd jobs

since he was in

the the Olympics.

Yeah, yeah.

I'm always just seeing him like in a booth, you know, like talking.

No, you described him as doing odd jobs.

Yeah, like I, and by the way, I wasn't either like alive or old enough to have watched him on TV.

And I know he's like an amazing figure skater, so I only know him from his odd jobs.

Yeah.

Okay, next story.

Some exciting Kim K news.

She is going to come out with a new line of home goods.

Kim Kardashian could become the next Martha Stewart because it looks like she's getting ready to tackle the world of home goods.

Kim's legal team filed new docs to lock up the rights to KKW Home.

According to the docs obtained by TMZ, Kim is eyeing the sale of KKW home products in retail outlets known for bath and shower products plus home and bedroom furnishings and accessories.

So this actually makes a lot of sense.

And we didn't report it, but last week or the week before, there was also news that she had trademarked KKW Skin.

Yes, very interesting.

Which is, to me, they're such a weird, like, non-spoken about

thing with KKW Beauty and Kylie Skin.

Like, they're so similar, but they're both successful in their own way.

And then Kylie did skin, and now Kim's doing skin.

And I feel like when I think of Kardashian makeup, like, of course, I think of Kylie Cosmetics.

And I feel like now that Kim has skims, like, that's really like the route she should be taking.

But when I thought of KKW Skin, I feel like Kim maybe has a unique opportunity to do something Kylie can't do just because she's so young.

Kim really is this like amazing mom.

She's almost 40 and she looks amazing.

And like, I think a lot of people would go to Kim 100% for anti-aging remedies.

So I think that KKW Skin and KKW Home are definitely good on-brand things for Kim to be doing.

I totally agree.

I'm curious to see what she does with KKW Home, but this is definitely something I'm like interested in consuming.

Yeah.

Because she has a very unique aesthetic, home aesthetic, and it's not for everyone.

It is not, but no one else has really cornered that design market.

Yeah.

I mean, it's very minimalist.

It's definitely not for everyone.

And I feel like she can't really be selling like home tchotchkis because she's like anti-chotch.

Right.

They literally on architectural digest say they have absolutely no clutter.

Like there's nothing on their shelves.

There's nothing in their cabinets.

I don't know where the fuck their clothes are, but, or like their clocks.

Like, it's so strange, but they live this like clutter-free life, which is very interesting.

Yeah, but maybe it'll be things to like help you live

a clutter-free life as well.

TMZ says they're gonna have bath mats and rugs.

I guess even Kim needs a bath mat.

Towels, shower curtains, and liners, linens, drapes, afghans, throws, comforters, blankets, scented oils, room fragrances, candles.

This is, this is good.

It's not like knickknacks.

Patty wax, give a dog a bone.

Yeah, I'm into it.

Cute.

She's got a customer in me.

Yeah, I mean, she's just killing it.

I think Skims was like the best thing she could have done for her life.

And all the other accoutrements are great.

But Skims, I think, is like the thing that's going to make him, like, we'll leave the line.

Like what Kylie...

Cosmetics did for Kylie.

I think Skims will do for Kim.

Yes, definitely.

Well, speaking of big money makers, Tyler Perry is officially a billionaire.

Tyler Perry's got something else to take ownership of.

He's now a billionaire.

Tyler's net worth just jumped and made him the newest official member of the Three Comma Club, according to a new Forbes report detailing his rise from being, quote, poor as hell to rich and powerful.

The numbers are in, and here's how they're breaking.

Forbes is breaking down Tyler Perry's milestone net worth.

He's worth $320 million for his entire library of movies, $300 million in cash and investments, $280 million for Tyler Perry Studios, $60 million for his equity stake in BET Plus streaming service, and $40 million in homes and toys.

Must be nice.

We don't talk about Tyler Perry much on this show, but when we do, it is overwhelmingly positive.

And it's nice.

We usually talk about his various like charitable donations and just really like low-key philanthropy that he does.

Good work that he does.

So now knowing how much money he has, I just feel great about all aspects of him.

Yes, I completely agree.

It's also really interesting just to see how rich people make their money because when you talk about it,

you think the studios, media, you think

movies.

And of course, a huge part of his net worth is the movies, but like his investments are just really, really well done.

Like him being a majority, or not majority, like a small shareholder in BET is genius.

Like all these different things.

Just so interesting how, you know, really, really rich people get really, really rich because it's not just like if it was just the movies that he owns 100% of the content he's created, it'd be about 300 million.

So it's more than that.

Oh, it's fascinating.

It's fascinating.

Congratulations to him.

Oh, and I love that there's a thing, the Three Comic Club.

Who knew?

Yeah, must be nice.

Okay, next up, some exciting bed news.

We've got two celeb couples who are expecting both couples that we love.

And then I'll start with the first one and then I'll preface the second one.

Does that work for you?

Works for me.

I love introducing them in a fun and special way because our first pregnant celeb is one of our favorite celebs here at the Morning Toast.

Lala Ken is pregnant, expecting her first baby with Randall Emmett.

This is fascinating.

Couple announced on their Give Them Lala with Randall podcast on Wednesday last week that they are pregnant.

She said, I'm like shaking right now because I can't believe that it's a real life thing.

I'm really emotional.

Let me gather myself.

I cry about everything, but today it's very much happy tears.

This is so exciting.

It was also her 30th birthday, so it's the best gift, she said.

I mean, there's like such, we're in it living in an interesting moment when it comes to the Vanderprump Rules cast because as you know, Stasi and Kristen have been fired.

There's really been like no speak of filming or casting.

And given the pandemic, like obviously everything's delayed, but I feel like we could very possibly be living in a world where Vanderpump Rules like is over.

And it's just so interesting, like, where does everyone go from here?

You know, like Katie launched a podcast, which I think would be good for her, but it's like without the show, and we don't have the show, and we probably won't have the show for a while because LA is not

opening.

You know, where do all these people stand?

Yeah, that is really interesting.

Like, we saw that Sheena had moved to San Francisco, but

that was months ago at this point.

Like,

and it's still not back.

And I agree with what you said.

It's interesting because I feel like a lot of the scripted shows that we know and love have already been canceled because they're too far behind.

Like the society, Netflix put out a bunch of shows that aren't coming back due to COVID and

just like cutting their losses.

Yes, it's over.

But I haven't heard of any reality shows yet that are in that same position.

And I actually think some networks are going to have to take stock of their reality content, like because when things are able to start filming again, they can't send out all their cameras.

Like things

still have to be staggered.

By the way, did you see that Real Houses of Orange County trailer dropped?

Yes, they're like wearing masks and yelling at each other.

Yeah, I didn't get to watch the whole thing, but it'll be interesting to see how they filmed it.

And it's going to be one of the first things content that we see that really is like in quarantine.

And on the one hand, it's interesting, but on the other hand, it's like, we're living it.

I don't want to see it everywhere.

No, reality TV, at least for me, is a huge form of escapism.

And it's like, what's going on in the world right now and all the strife and everything.

It's just, it's...

It's painful.

Like, and you use these types of media to kind of get away from it and to just watch a TV show of like a bunch of women wearing masks and like yelling about the pandemic.

Like that is not my idea of a good time.

Yeah, even like next week on Rahoney, they are going to start arguing about Ramona wearing a mask.

And it's like, this is the world that we're living in.

Reality TV, especially Bravo, is like escapist television.

Yeah.

And it's not, at a certain point, it's not enjoyable.

No, and at a certain point, like, I need not be reminded of what's going on.

Like, it really...

For so many people, since we're spending so much time at home, like, TV has been this constant source of just like positive and like and pleasure.

And I really don't want that taken away from me.

And I don't want to start watching shows about people living in the pandemic.

I don't.

But I guess that's like the double-edged sword of reality television.

This is the reality that they're living in too.

You know, like they can't not film, you know, there's nothing else to film.

But I guess it goes to show like then maybe that's just not the content we want right now.

Yeah.

But I guess like you could do, I mean, really, you can't, but like.

Similar to what The Bachelor's doing, it's like they're making their own like a bubble, like an NBA.

And it's still very real and it's not really addressing the pandemic.

They're just not leaving the hotel.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I feel something to think about.

It is something to think about, anyways.

So happy for Lala and Randall.

Yeah, so beautiful.

Happy for them.

Crazy that Stasi's also pregnant at the same time.

And I think it's lovely.

Lovely.

Next up, you just like turned your iPad, like, you wanted me to see.

Right, because I wanted to preface our next happy couple, baby news.

Okay.

An actor that we absolutely love.

We haven't discussed Twilight yet on the show today, but it's still very much in our hearts and our minds.

And a part of the culture here at the Morning Toast.

Yes.

Keelan Lutz and his wife are expecting a baby after a pregnancy loss this year.

Oh my God, I love Keelan Lutz.

Like I just

was such, I mean, I could go into like a whole thing.

I won't, but Emmett was just like a really stand-up guy and he was like a great member of the Cullen family and I'm so happy for him.

So happy for him.

So happy for his family.

Bless you.

Thank you.

He's done it.

Like it's true.

It's true.

Like he's just everything of the sort.

Who is he married to?

He is married to Brittany Gonzalez and they actually suffered a pregnancy loss nearly seven months ago and now they're pregnant again.

So it's just a very happy story.

This is beautiful.

I'm so happy for them i hope that the baby is a vampire and then we get a sequel oh my god all we need is sequels on sequels yeah um i still haven't started reading twilight but i'm going to you guys i know i like the decision i made the decision i think i'm gonna wait till i get home so i can like get back to forks i understand you know yeah okay our fifth and final story is a little reboot news we have two interesting reboots for different reasons.

Oh, I did, I know this one.

First, the Golden Girls is returning to TV with an all-black cast.

The iconic Golden Girls are coming back to TV with a twist.

It's going to have an all-black cast with an all-star lineup that includes Tracy Ellis Ross, Regina King, Alfrey Woodard, and Sana Lathan.

I love Sana Lathan, first of all.

Second of all, I know I have like the same five stories that I always tell, but I don't know if I've ever told this one.

I ran into Tracy Ellis Ross in an elevator in LA.

I don't think you, I'm, I'm, one, I'm just glad you have that self-awareness that you have the same five stories.

Yeah, I know, I know I have like three stories, and I always say that.

I don't think we've heard the Tracy Ellis Ross one.

Please share.

She was so lovely and radiant.

And like I was, you know, some people, like their energy is just like star power.

And I felt like very small in her presence, like, obviously not physically, but like, just like my aura was like, she just, she has this light.

And I just shown you.

I was really like.

free like i i just wasn't expecting first of all to like have the door open and like a celebrity get in the elevator and i was just like i love you and she was so nice and she was like thanks and then she just went she just looked fabulous and it was a really positive celebrity experience and i just wanted to share that so i think it's so important to share the positive positive celebrity experiences.

Like as often as one shares a negative celebrity experience.

I agree.

For every Hillary Duff, there's a Tracy Ellis Ross.

Oh, my God, that's beautiful.

Thank you, Claudia.

That's beautiful.

Anyways, the Women will assume for a Zoom production on September 8th at 9 p.m.

as part of a series called The Zoom Where It Happens.

Wait, what?

So it's a Zoom reboot?

Interesting.

I'm not into this idea.

That's not going to work for me.

Zoom reboots are like not my favorite.

That's not going to work for me.

Bravo has done a good job with like the zoominess, but I'm really over it.

It's not a solution.

Like it's a band-aid.

No, but but I did think the idea of like rebooting these sort of iconic shows that are very antiquated with no mean characters who wear black and like revamping them.

Like, honestly, I could do like a black friends.

I'm sure it'd be like a lot funnier.

Yeah.

I think that's a good idea.

No, I think this is a great idea, and I was, I was here for everything about it, except until that Zoom part, but maybe like it will start on Zoom, and then when things can resume

from Zoom to resume, it's such a hair.

From Zoom to resume.

I don't know.

Zoom is like a good way to get your good idea done poorly.

Yeah.

No one ever like lives for.

No, no one wants to be on Zoom anymore.

No one.

No.

No one wants to be on Zoom.

No one wants to watch Zoom.

We're zooming out.

We're zoomed out.

We're zoomed out.

It's enough.

Also, more reboot news that I find incredibly strange.

Me too.

Incredibly strange.

That's why it's just like...

It's not even big news.

It's just strange.

The reboot that literally nobody fucking asked for.

The reboot, there should be literally like a time limit.

You cannot reboot a show until it's been off the show.

For 20 years.

I was going to say 10.

I was going to be generous.

20.

But no.

Pretty little Little Liars reboot is in the works from Riverdale boss, Writer Ross, who we love.

Which, by the way, it will probably be done very well.

And I'm not saying it's a bad show concept.

Like, Writer Ross obviously makes amazing teen content.

Riverdale, Sabrina, the Dude.

Like, he's amazing at his job.

And honestly, Pretty Little Liars was like a pretty terrible show.

And maybe if Writer Ross had been on it initially, it would have been what like Riverdale is.

But it's just like, how can you reboot a show that literally just ended?

No, it's crazy where

the actors are still young enough to play themselves again,

Even in high school.

There has to be

a statue of limitation

on when you can reboot a show.

Agreed.

Like, this is so crazy to me.

So, three years after Pretty Little Liars wrapped its seventh season run and a year after its second spin-off was canceled, Warner Ruthers is ready to revive the Legacy franchise.

Sources tell her.

The Legacy franchise, according to who.

Okay, Pretty Liars was a big show.

In the beginning.

Big, successful.

These four girls have careers forever now.

No, I know, but like, I just don't think it was that ever, it was ever, even that at a time, that great of a show that it needed spin-offs, reboots, all, it's, it's not this legacy thing.

It was a good show.

It was a big show.

It's like rebooting Gossip Girl.

No, it's not.

No, it's not, but

it's not.

Okay.

Sources tell the Hollywood reporter.

And by the way, sorry, even if the shows were as big, it's like Gossip Girl is a timeless story.

Like rich kids, like this dumb murder mystery that Pretty Little Liars turned into, like, that's not a story that needs to be retold over and over again.

Yeah.

Well, sources do tell the Hollywood Reporter that Riverdale showrunner Roberto Aguero Sicasa, aka Ryder Ross, who we love here at the Morning Toast, who we absolutely love, is spearheading a new take on the former freeform mega hit.

The new PLL is set to feature a new story and new characters, with Writer Ross set to pen the script.

So new story, new characters.

Why is it pretty?

Like, why didn't Writer Ross just like write his own show?

Yeah, called like ugly, big, non-True Tellas.

A network is not yet attached, and the project has not yet been taken out of possible buyers.

Those sources tell the Hollywood Reporter that Warner Media-backed streamer HBO Max is considered to be the biggest, the target destination for the potential series.

Whatever.

This is so weird.

Nobody needs, nobody asks for it.

But by the way, I'm sure it'll be great.

Yeah.

I'll watch it.

I mean, I won't watch it because I think officially, by the time this comes out, like, I will be officially too old to be watching Teen Dramas.

And also,

yeah, no, like, I'm an old bitch.

By the way, now that I think about it, it's kind of weird that you watch Riverdale.

It's because of, like, after

no, yeah, we just became like so culty in our family that like I stick with things.

Like I'm loyal.

You are right.

I'm loyal till the end.

I never thought of you as like old.

And also because like so many of the shows that I do love get canceled.

I have to cherish the ones that don't.

That don't.

Yeah, it's true.

But like Ryder Ross also did Sabrina the Teenage Witch, which I didn't watch.

Ben absolutely loves it.

That's so funny.

And he also did.

Katie Keene,

which I, again, felt too old to be watching.

Interesting.

You know?

I wonder how Lucy Hale felt.

So, yeah.

Anyways, those are the five stories.

Let us know

what you think the statue of limitation is on.

You know, I think it's something we need to talk about as a society.

Like, we just need to put these rules in place.

I agree.

It's for everyone's safety.

Yeah.

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Which one you want to start with Beverly Hills?

Let's start with New York because we watched it first.

Okay.

I just want to preface it by saying you said to me, oh my god, apparently this week's New York is so crazy.

It's the reason Durand is fired.

Everyone's talking about it.

So I was like, okay, put it on immediately.

And I gathered that from Twitter.

Like, I follow a bunch.

I just wanted to find that.

I'm not shooting The Messenger.

And I didn't come to that conclusion.

I literally just gathered that from people's commentary on the show and all like of Stan Real Housewife Twitter just like going wild for it.

Right.

So, and I'm not shooting the messenger at all.

You relayed the message.

Properly.

The message was wrong.

500%.

It was actually a shitty ass episode.

Perhaps.

The worst episode of the season.

Perhaps.

Agreed.

And what nerve they had to mask it as a finale because it was just awful.

And I did feel like when I heard people saying, like, you know, Dorinda is fired for a reason, the way she kind of blew up at the end of a very boring episode where it was like, it's over.

Take your Microsoft and go home.

Like the season's done.

How she just had to get in like one more jab.

There's something.

One more jab at Tinsley.

There is something more there.

I don't think that we know the full story because the way that Dorinda just fucking hates Tinsley and will go out of her way to say the most vile, hateful, hurtful things.

I feel as though there's something we're missing.

I wonder if we'll find out at their reunion.

I wonder if something happened off camera when they were off air.

There is just something weird there.

And I think it's beyond just like maybe her being jealous.

Like Tinsley has this fabulous life with this rich guy.

Like, I do think there is that.

There's that level of jealousy, but I think that it's way beyond that.

I think there's something way bigger going on.

Yeah, maybe something happened.

I feel like a while ago, we read something like a rumor that was probably not true about something that happened with drugs.

That's what I hope.

With like Tinsley and Dorinda and whatnot.

um I just hope that whatever it is that actually happened comes out of the reunion that's what reunions are for so if we don't find out next week or the week after what happened between tinsley and dorinda that makes dorinda like hate tinsley so viscerally then i mean i i feel complete in my resolve that dorinda needs to be gone and you know what it is maybe dorinda Should really explain what happened because right now it looks like she hates Tinsley for absolutely no reason.

It's making her really out to be a villain and look like a monster.

And like maybe if we had some context, like we might relate to Dorinda.

Right.

So I hope that she has something to share with the class.

So, while I agree that her behavior was abhorrent and really is indicative of why the cast needs a shake-up, at the same time, it was such a boring episode.

And the only interesting part was when, like, Dorinda and her broken wrists were like running around the party screaming about Tinsley.

So, it's like, if we didn't have that, like, it really would have been a shitty episode.

And it was shitty.

Yeah, it was shitty.

I can't even remember, like.

They had the drag bingo, and then

I remember drag bingo, Luann's new song.

And it's like, okay, two women couldn't go, and Luann was performing.

So, literally, there's so few house-wise.

There were two in the audience.

Yeah.

Leah and Sonia.

I love the friendship between Leah and Sonia.

I feel like I always knew that they were meant to be.

And I think their friendship came to like a beautiful blossom, you know, moment at the finale.

And I think that's part of what we said last week.

It's like Sonia is this chameleon.

And even though the cast needs a major shake-up, I don't think that includes Sonia.

I completely agree.

And their friendship with Leah is evident of that.

I think this week's season finale, which is usually like one of the more interesting episodes of the season, just underscores why this was such a terrible season and that things need to change.

And I think they mostly need to change in the form of like new cast members.

I don't think anyone else needs to be fired.

And I don't think

anyone else is going to be fired because they would have announced it around the time they announced Dorinda.

I agree.

I don't think anyone else is going to be fired.

While I'm excited that we have our first in-person reunion this year, I'm like annoyed that

it's wasted on this like bad cast and bad season and bad storylines.

Like, it's like literally in Big Daddy, we wasted the good surprise on you.

Like, I would literally see any, hands down, any other franchise before New York.

I completely agree.

They're just so not it this season.

I'm sorry to be the messenger again.

Yeah, and I just want like

and the finale just confirmed like how like we usually watch the episodes like write down our notes and our thoughts and I didn't write down one thing.

I had literally no notes.

I'm like, man, this is horrible.

And I can't believe it's the finale.

Yeah, no, it was really bad.

Like every scene, everyone's personal situation was just worse than the next.

Yeah.

And to be honest, I really like Leah, but like the amount of airtime devoted to like her family drama is just, it's not of interest to me.

That's not why I tune into the show.

Like everyone has their own problems with their family.

Like, we don't need to turn on TV and see someone else's.

Yeah, and also, with the women of New York, we've gotten kind of accustomed to them not being with their children.

Like, Sonia's daughter's not on the show.

Um, Avery's all grown, Luann's kids are all grown.

Yeah, so it's like not a kids' show, agreed.

And it's, it's just, there's so much weirdness in this season, and so many things aren't adding up.

Um, I hope the reunion is good.

I really do not have high hopes, but we'll see.

Yeah, also, now that I think about it, generally speaking, I'm not really into like when the kids are on the show,

Like for any franchise.

I'm not into Dwyl and Amelia and

Beverly Hills.

I'm just not into like general like family stuff.

Like even when Luann sat down talking about writing her book and like her dad and like it was sad, I just like, I like didn't care.

I know that's mean to say.

I just, as a viewer, I did not find it entertaining.

And Luann is someone who I adore.

Like and I've known her for years.

And it's like, I don't even care about Luann's family stuff, who I've literally watched on TV since I was in high school.

You think I care about Leah's family stuff?

I just met her.

Yeah, I agree.

So the reunions next week, and speaking of reunions, we had Beverly Hills reunion, which was a breath of fresh air compared to some of the shit we watched this week.

I thought, as per usual, the Bravo Zoom reunions are extremely well done.

Extremely well done.

I love that they showed us the

first, which makes sense.

They're not going to sit in their chairs in their glam, like trying to get their cameras working.

So it really is so professionally done.

And I thought it was just cute for them to like all just do that too.

Because they do show us behind the scenes reunion stuff when they're in studio, and it's become something that everyone really enjoys.

And I just, I liked, I liked that out, me too.

And I appreciated that they still gave it 100% in terms of glam, outfits, looks, even though they were from home.

Everyone looked amazing.

Amazing.

I, and you know, I have not loved her fashion choices all season, but I think that Garcelle looked absolutely beautiful.

And the fact that her jewelry was Asa from Shaz, it was Asa Caftan's jewelry headpiece, was just like a beautiful bravo moment for me.

Yeah, that is a beautiful bravo moment.

You love to see it.

I thought all the women looked wonderful, beautiful, stunning together there was not a standout for me in terms of um wardrobe oh that's interesting i think there were some standouts um actually i guess that's true i think everyone like looked really really really good no one but you know what i'm never crazy about reunion looks in general like

It depends on the point.

I think everyone just goes a little too hard sometimes.

And I didn't feel that way about Beverly Hills this time, but and I so I thought together they looked really cohesive and everyone was the same level of glam, which I, which I need.

But there wasn't really a standout.

The pink carrot was a standout for me in a negative way.

Yes, yes, yes.

I'm sorry.

And it just, it wasn't my favorite.

Yeah.

Obviously, I love every choice Dorit and Erica make.

And they looked great.

Yeah, everyone looked good.

But it's not like I'm like on far-fetched trying to find Dorit's dress.

Like sometimes I am.

Yes, of course.

What I thought was interesting, obviously, this is only part one of three, so we don't really get into like the meat and potatoes of the real season.

But I had almost forgotten about all these things that had happened before Brandy and Denise.

And it's like, it was, the Brandi Brandy and Denise stuff was like interesting in the beginning and then I really got over it very quickly.

And I'd forgotten about all these jewels and like these little stupid fights and Kyle's children's hospital party.

Like there was just so many good moments and it was like when Kyle said to Erica like this is why you don't have friends.

Yes, there was just like so many things that happened before and I feel like it's all just kind of been swept under the rug because it's not the big thing.

But I enjoyed this reunion because we got to go back to like when it was just simpler and all those silly fights.

And what I found so interesting is this like this underlying tension that arose between Garcell and Kyle, which I didn't really read on screen.

I remember that Garcelle just said that she glazed over Garcell a lot and she didn't feel like Kyle really like heard her or was listening to her.

But I just found it interesting and I thought the charity dispute about the actual donation was kind of low,

but it has since been addressed.

Remedy that Garcelle did pay.

Garcelle has paid, yeah.

And that seems like to me, that seems like low that Kyle will bring it up, considering I feel like sometimes that stuff is just like a logistical thing, you know, like just the checks.

Business manager.

You know, and I don't think Garcelle ever intended to say she was going to pay for something and not pay for it and i just thought that was like a little sideways

yeah and also it had nothing to do with what they were talking about yeah like they were just talking about their friendship and how maybe they got to this place and then kyle's just throwing out this like knife that she didn't pay her bill yeah i will say like i think that garcelle had an amazing like first season i she is one of my favorite people on the cast right now and i thought she did an amazing job at the reunion and i love how she is still at the reunion like just standing her ground for what she thinks is right, not what the group thinks is right, which is a hard thing to do as a new housewife.

Yeah, yeah very hard speaking of new housewife sutton who i've actually come to really like i wasn't like feeling her energy okay this is my note at the reunion sutton seemed nervous and like hostile in the beginning yeah hostile very tense

and she is tense and we saw her be tense in the beginning of the season i loved how she addressed it and said she was insecure and it came off like it translated into her looking snooty which she's not and i think we all by the end of the season realize that who she was in episode one is not who she is agreed and i'm cool with that but like i thought doreet's apology towards her, when Dorit was clearly in the wrong in that scene, she like made it bigger than it was and she apologized and owned up to it.

Like, that's the best you're going to get from a housewife.

Drop it.

No, and not only did she not drop it, she just like went in deeper when it's like, literally, there was nothing else that needed to be said.

No, here's what needed to be said.

Sutton was saying, why did you even do it in the first place?

Why did you bring it up?

Why did you make it big?

And the answer is, because we're on a TV show and it's drama.

Right.

But you can't use that for everything because then other people used to justify it as, well, we brought up Denise and Brandy hooking up because we're on a TV show and it's drama.

Right.

And it's not always apples to apples.

You know, what I did take away from Sutton in the reunion is that I do wish she had been a full housewife because I still think she's a little misunderstood.

And I think that I still don't really, I get her more, but I don't get her completely.

And that's because we've never really gotten like a look at, anyway, I forgot she had a kid, you know?

Like, I just wish that we knew a little bit more about her.

And I think she was robbed of being a housewife.

And I think the lack of air time and just getting to know her more put us her at a disadvantage.

100%.

And that was the conclusion I came to.

But I did think she came in with like this weird ass energy.

Like very defensive, very tense, very hostile.

And I was like, girl, what are you doing?

Yeah.

Because with the Dari thing, she was in the right.

Yeah, but she found a way to put herself in the wrong.

Yeah.

And she could have just taken the apology.

And I do, there's something about Satan and we said before that I like because she's so different from anyone else we've ever seen on the show.

Her even saying to Teddy, are you going to let something as small as my disdain for your fashion come in the way of our friendship?

And it's like, that's iconic.

No, it's so funny.

And it's really like,

I just, I think that she maybe didn't do the best job at this reunion.

We'll see if it gets better, but she was just like acting so weird.

I'm glad you picked up on it as well.

Yeah, no, I did.

Because it was making me feel weird.

It was making me feel weird.

And then the rest of the drama was really like everyone versus Denise.

And it really is upsetting.

Like every week, I become more and more

like out of love with Lisa Rinna.

Oh, I'm pretty much done.

And I'm like, I'm done.

I think she's so mean.

I think she's such a bad friend.

I think she's really just tries to go viral at every turn.

So, like, she says things with this, like, punch that it's too

like

a canned response, you know, and like she's just wanting to go viral or become a meme.

And, like, it's not how women really talk.

And she's, she's mean.

She's not a good friend.

Yeah, no, I turned on her

pretty much in Rome, and then she had a redeeming moment in Rome with her breakdown, but it turned out to be so fake and phony.

And I'm curious, people love Lisa Rena.

I'm curious if anyone else is having this type of, you know, renaissance with Lisa Rena, Renaissance.

But I agree, she's really bothering me.

And like, I don't think her shtick about wigs is funny.

Like, I'm over everything about her.

I'm over everything about her.

And even when she's right, like, she goes so hard to the point where I'm on Denise's side.

I know Denise is wrong.

I know Denise is lying.

I'm lying about everything.

I don't care.

Yeah, that's the thing.

It's like all these women are going so hard on Denise for the wrong things that it's like, you have no choice but to like take Denise's side, even though Homegirl could not be covering herself up worse, like with her inconsistencies and her lies and her absolute lack of like logic.

But she, the women have made her into a victim.

Yeah,

they didn't realize it, but they have.

Yeah, I agree.

And then Potomac, which was, now we're going to be saying for the third week in a row, like next week's episode looks so good.

Nothing happened again.

There was, we were at the 51 minute mark, at least on RTV, when the text message thing happened.

And that was the whole preview for this week.

And the women are so bored at the lake house.

They took 20 minutes showing us that passage between Anderson Cashley, Andis and Cashley.

And also the pancake cook-offs.

Which were both like cute shticks, but I didn't need 10 minutes each.

No, that was so, that was honestly, it was wrong.

It was mean that they did that.

Agreed.

Like, and it's so obvious that they're just trying to fill time to like keep pushing back this big bombshell.

And I'm over it.

Like, I got really annoyed.

Lumique's lake house honestly looks really fun.

Like, why don't they go in the pool or something?

Like, them sitting around complaining.

Sitting on a dock fishing, Karen Huger.

Like, that's not it.

Like, literally, make breakfast, go in the pool, have drinks, get ready for dinner.

Like, what else needs to be done?

I don't know.

It's a lake house.

They were acting like the weather was bad or something.

Yeah.

Like, they were sitting literally inside the whole time.

Like, in the kitchen island.

It wasn't raining, but it was a beautiful day.

And it's a beautiful house, a beautiful setting.

And I don't like people talking shit about Monique's house.

Maybe I'm just like a Monique's fan, but it's like, I couldn't sleep.

It was hot in the bugs.

It's like.

You don't even have a lake house.

You don't even have a house, Candace.

Yeah, so it's like, let's stop being judgy.

She invited you all.

You didn't have to come.

Yeah, you probably shouldn't have come.

Agreed.

Even though, I wanted to get your thoughts.

When Candace got that text message, whether or not it was like staged or not, did you feel like she genuinely was upset that she had gotten this burden of information?

Because I kind of did.

Yeah, no, she was definitely...

flustered, annoyed, not reveling in it at all, like not happy.

Because sometimes when you're enemy, like you got to text about your enemy, you're stoked.

Of course,

it's fuel.

It wasn't that for her.

She was definitely like freaking out.

And I understood why she went straight to Giselle because Giselle is really like a matriarch within the group and a close friend of Ashley's.

And like the bone carrier.

Yes, but she's now lost me because it seems like she's going to bring it up at the dinner table.

Which is so inappropriate and not the place to do it.

And this is like, this is what we were just saying about Beverly Hills.

Like,

yes, we are on TV.

It is drama for the television, sure.

But like, there's a level.

And Giselle and Candace could have brought it up to Ashley one-on-one.

Which they should have.

Before dinner, and it would have like come up at dinner.

And it will be great television.

But for them to bring it up in front of everyone is just low.

And no, and it's it's so mean.

Like, yeah, that I know that these women, like, are co-workers, um, and some of them are friends in real life, and some of them are not, but, like, I don't know how you could really do that, like, to a woman.

Yeah, like, give Ashley, so this is what might have happened.

They might have told Ashley before dinner.

She might have not come to dinner.

She might have stayed, and then they would have all talked at the table.

Why isn't Ashley at dinner?

And they would have talked about it.

It would have come up, and we would have had

we would have had the gossip.

Or Ashley comes to dinner they have to talk about it at dinner, but Ashley is at least prepared.

Like, even though we live for the drama, these women are still human, and it goes back to why Denise is not like is the victim of Beverly Hills because Rena should have told her before everyone else did.

Agreed, and you would have had the same drama, you could have had the same conversation, it's a little bit more organized.

But to like be caught off guard like that on something that could literally blow up your marriage and your life when you have a three-month-old, yeah, not cool.

Another thing that I thought was interesting in the episode is like I was really turnt on Wendy, like, she was just not

saying anything that I agreed with or anything.

And then when she had that moment, like, when she was on her walk with Giselle, I just felt like she wasn't listening to anything Giselle was saying.

And Giselle was actually giving some good advice.

But then when she sat on the deck with Ashley and she, like, started to cry about how, like, yeah, she's a mom of three, but like, it's so fresh for her.

And her baby was in the niku.

Like, I immediately just like understood and felt bad for her.

And I just understood like why her behavior was like a little erratic.

And I couldn't even fault her for it.

And I feel like she's mad at the circumstance, which is like the most annoying thing to be mad at because you really can't be mad at anyone.

Yeah.

So I was really like not digging her at all.

And then when she opened up and became a little bit more vulnerable, I understood her way more and I actually agreed with pretty much everything she said.

Yeah, no, this scene between her and Ashley on the dock was really nice and human and I enjoyed it.

And yeah, there are other times when I'm just like, don't agree with her.

And like when Candace was giving her advice the next morning after the fight, like giving her like the worst advice ever.

Ever.

Like I'm surprised she even got to that moment with Ashley when she was completely coached in the wrong direction.

You know, Candace, when they're sitting on the bed, literally swapping advice and just like talking about the night, I was like, Candace is not a friend.

Like, at all.

This is some of the worst advice I've ever heard.

Yeah, no, you take Candace's advice, you end up like Candace.

No, you take Candace's advice and you do the opposite, and then you're good.

Yeah.

Okay, let's dive into Deer Toasters.

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Claudia and Jackie.

Hi.

Hello.

Sorry that we keep moving our chairs.

Good afternoon.

I've been with you all since that episode where you worked out with Jorge Cruz.

Wow.

Good times, LOL.

Anyway, my dilemma today is rather interesting.

I recently attended a small family wedding on a farm, very secluded that had few guest rooms, so people could only stay there after the reception.

My brother had his own room.

He woke up at 5 a.m.

only to realize he had lost the car keys of the car that we had loaned him.

He panicked and headed back to the dance floor in the hopes of finding them.

In the process, he ran into our uncle who was staying out partying till 5 a.m.

Love it.

My uncle said he didn't have a room to stay and so we just kept drinking with a few others who were partying away through the night.

My brother was already awake.

He offered my uncle his room.

My brother still hadn't found the keys.

And so like any boy, he went to find a woman to help him.

My brother gets our mom, and she suggests that they start the search in his room.

So my brother and mother head back to the room where they're where the brother is staying and my uncle is now staying in it.

My mom and brother walk in and our uncle who is married is in bed with a mystery man.

They were caught in the act.

We were all fucking shook.

I will never tell my aunt my uncle is married to my blood my blood related aunt.

Can anything really be kept a secret if five people know?

Let me know what you guys think.

Is it my job to tell my favorite aunt that her husband is a cheating man?

This is above my pay grade and I live for hot gossip, but this is too hot.

Okay, well, first of all, as a child in this situation it would be up to your parents to tell the auntie.

That's true.

Like your mom is fucked not you.

Well it depends if whichever parent is the one that's blood related to the auntie.

But the dad doesn't know right now just the mom.

Okay well tell this the blood sibling because they know the auntie best and maybe like auntie's been looking for a reason to get out for a while.

Maybe this is her ticket.

Maybe this is her ticket out.

Maybe she's so happy with her life and like doesn't want to know what might be going on.

And I think a sibling might know that about a fellow sibling.

And so I would leave it up to the adults in this situation.

Yeah.

Now, can something remain a secret when five people know about it?

Typically, no, but like, this isn't something that just slips out to your auntie.

Other than that, we got a bunch of deer trusters, but I chose this one for you because it's about an end.

It's end-on-end crime.

Yeah, the thing is, it's like when it comes to telling your aunt, like she needs to know, obviously, but these conversations can be uncomfortable and you just don't want her to feel like ashamed or embarrassed.

So however you decide to tell her, it has to be in the way that protects her the most.

Yes.

So whether that is your mother, your father, someone, I don't think it should be you.

You're a kid, and that's like embarrassing.

Right.

Like if Theo saw something and wanted to say something to me, I would feel more comfortable if he told you and you told me because like you know how to handle me and like you know, you know what's up.

But see, Theo's such a man of honor, like he would probably just not say anything.

But like, would he want to see his auntie like living a lie?

That's true.

That's true.

You know?

So it's tough.

But I do think that like when you're the niece or nephew, it can be,

it can feel like you want to tell Yadantie everything.

No, but in dead seriousness, like you need to pass this off to an adult.

This is not your fucking problem.

Leave it to the adults.

But that is so crazy.

Justice for Yaranti.

Yeah, justice for Yaranti.

And I wonder, did your brother ever find the car keys?

Probably not.

That's the true crime here.

Yeah, that I completely agree.

That is so unacceptable.

So unacceptable.

Why did he wake up at 5 a.m.

anyway?

Also, what farm was this?

Like, South America.

Sounds like a freezing night.

You know, sometimes like when you're drinking, you just wake up early.

I can't fault the brother for waking up at 5.

5 is insane.

No, it's nuts.

Nuts.

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