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Speaker 1 Good morning, girlies. It's the toast.

Speaker 2 It's Jackson Claude, and we're your hosts.

Speaker 2 It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know.

Speaker 3 We'll start your day off swirly.

Speaker 1 It's the toast.

Speaker 1 I sound amazing.

Speaker 2 Good morning, Millennials. Welcome back to the toast.
It's Friday. It feels like a Tuesday.
That feels like a Wednesday. And we are here in studio.
My name is Claudia.

Speaker 3 By the way, we didn't practice our good morning, millennials, but I thought we did a pretty good job.

Speaker 2 Good morning, millennials.

Speaker 3 Like, I held the good like one second longer than you.

Speaker 2 You just held the good all the way.

Speaker 3 Good morning, millennials.

Speaker 2 That was beautiful, Liv.

Speaker 3 Thank you. By the way, I heard your wicked run the other day.

Speaker 2 You liked that?

Speaker 2 I don't know if I liked it. What's it called? A run? A run.
Yeah. Yeah.
Which is like a bunch of funny.

Speaker 3 It wasn't really about the noises that came out of your mouth, more about like the eyes bulging out of your head.

Speaker 2 The fact that that's a term, like a run, like, no, the run is like when you have

Speaker 2 cheese and you have to stop on the side of the road. That's what it means for you.
That's a moonstruck moment. That's a moonstruck moment.

Speaker 3 Well, we are so happy to be here today in lieu of our girlies, Jackson Claude.

Speaker 2 And for people who are listening and they're like, what the hell is going on here? Neither Jackie nor Claudia are here.

Speaker 3 Is this the first time they've ever knocked on the toast?

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.
I've seen that. It's the first time that both of them have knocked on the toast, which makes sense because it's their show.

Speaker 3 But also, that's actually amazing for them. No, it is.
Wow.

Speaker 2 It is. Absolutely.

Speaker 3 Must be like episode like 500.

Speaker 2 You know, this is a very, very special day.

Speaker 3 No, totally.

Speaker 2 Rare, rare occasion.

Speaker 2 I'm just going to hawk everything I have.

Speaker 3 Oh, my God. I can't wait to see what you're going to bring.

Speaker 2 Spritz, good guys. We're just going to load it up.

Speaker 2 We're going to load it up.

Speaker 2 No, but this is going to be a wonderful, special episode live from Florida.

Speaker 2 So gorgeous out. So gorgeous.
So beautiful. Last night we celebrated Jackie's birthday.

Speaker 3 It was so beautiful. Right? Yeah, it was such a nice night.
Like, really the best.

Speaker 3 I would love to. And by the way, I think people actually thought that either you or I cooked the meal.
Well, no.

Speaker 2 For whatever reason, I wasn't asked to cook the meal.

Speaker 3 No, because you wanted to be like an enjoyable participant.

Speaker 2 No, I would have cooked the meal happily. I would have cooked the film.
I'm not, Olivia. I would have cooked the meal better.
Oh, okay. Don't I really feel? I would have cooked the meal better.

Speaker 2 But tell people about the meal.

Speaker 3 No, we had such a beautiful night. We like had a chef come to the house.
We had a beautiful family dinner.

Speaker 3 It was so delicious, so divine. So just like, it was such a hemish night, you know? It was such a beautiful night.
And it was just like so like sweet and delicious.

Speaker 3 And it was so wonderful to all be together. And like, honestly, I just do feel like a little bit like on a cloud today because I'm like, what a lovely night we had last night, you know?

Speaker 2 Last night was beautiful. And like the kids were just like running around.

Speaker 3 The kids were having the best time.

Speaker 2 And they have like all of their horses and they're just like horse, like fake horses, not real horses. They're like,

Speaker 2 but they're like running around the house and it was just like super sweet.

Speaker 3 So sweet. It was beautiful.

Speaker 2 And the meal was beautiful.

Speaker 3 Beautiful.

Speaker 2 But Olivia.

Speaker 2 What didn't you like? I thought the chicken was dry. Oh my God.
How dry was that chicken?

Speaker 3 I thought the chicken was good.

Speaker 2 Olivia, as somebody who makes a really moist chicken and a moist turtle. Well, it's because you can identify a dry chicken from a moist chicken.

Speaker 3 It's because it just wasn't like in the, with the sauce and the veggies that normally like we all usually cook it all together with. It was sort of like standalone.

Speaker 2 I think it's important not to lie. I think it's very important.
I think it's very important to talk about when food is delicious, okay?

Speaker 3 I thought it was a delicious meal. I did.

Speaker 3 I actually really liked the chicken, but like if you eat the chicken with the mashed potatoes and put a little dressing from the salad and you take a bite all together, then you don't have like just a piece of dry chicken.

Speaker 3 Totally.

Speaker 2 But it was dry chicken. You agree?

Speaker 2 Good. Okay.
What about the fish?

Speaker 3 I actually didn't have the fish. Okay, it was a little bit fishy.
I heard that you said that. And but by the way, that was up for debate.

Speaker 2 So no, it wasn't up for debate. It was up for debate.

Speaker 2 But now let's discuss the things that were amazing, okay?

Speaker 3 The mashed potatoes were so unbelievably good. I'm literally still dreaming about them.
I want somebody to bring them over to my house tonight so I don't have to make a side.

Speaker 2 These were like Hillstone lunches.

Speaker 3 And now, by the way,

Speaker 3 are you going to come on the toast or on Good Guys Monday morning and critique my meal tonight?

Speaker 2 No, I would never tell you.

Speaker 2 Your meal is going to be delicious no matter what.

Speaker 3 You would never tell me. Why wouldn't you?

Speaker 2 Because you worked so hard.

Speaker 3 No, but I like the feedback. I like to know what people liked and didn't.
Does it have too much salt? Does it have too much?

Speaker 2 I normally love all of your food. I really do.
I love your food too.

Speaker 3 I really do. Yeah, but I would like for you to give me feedback where you could say, this isn't my favorite.
Okay, fine.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 3 I can very much accept that. I feel like that's what makes us better cooks.

Speaker 2 I'll give you one single critique right now. Let's hear it.
I think that sometimes when you make schnitzel, your chicken's too thin.

Speaker 3 I think I would agree with that. It's because it's bacon in the oven and I'm not frying it it so it doesn't get the juice from the oil.
I do hear that.

Speaker 2 So perhaps make it a little bit thicker.

Speaker 3 Yeah, sometimes I buy a pre-cut that way already, you know?

Speaker 2 Yeah, no. Oh, you buy the thinnies.

Speaker 3 Buy the thinnies.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's their problem. They're making it too thin.

Speaker 3 By the way, that's an incredibly fair piece of feedback.

Speaker 2 I understand. It's not the way that you cook it, it's the way that you're buying it.
Yeah, I hear that. I hear that.
I'm going to buy a thicker piece. Okay, the carrots.
Divine. Divine.

Speaker 3 All of this. The pita.

Speaker 2 This man, Olivia. The pita was so great.
This man took

Speaker 2 vegetables and made them fattening. And let me tell you, there's nothing I love more than a fattening vegetable.

Speaker 3 I mean, totally, Mr. Mayo.

Speaker 2 Just so good. Drenched in honey.
No, it's delicious. Sugar.

Speaker 3 I thought the meal was so unbelievable. I loved it.

Speaker 2 And Jackie has, I've never noticed this. She has the world's, I think this is in the Guinness Book of World Records, the world's largest lazy Susan.

Speaker 3 Yeah, she does. It is, it is six feet.

Speaker 2 It's a really big tab. By six feet.
It is. The table's enormous.

Speaker 2 Did you know that they made lazy Susans that big?

Speaker 3 I mean, I would imagine that they do in order to like fit different sized tables.

Speaker 2 I've never seen a lazy Susan that big.

Speaker 3 I mean, how many lazy Susans do you see?

Speaker 2 I see smaller lazy Susans.

Speaker 3 I see a who is a lazy Susan that you have a small lazy Susan.

Speaker 2 Oh, you do? It's small. Yes.
It's like

Speaker 2 this big. I don't really.
It's like a plate that's basically a plate that's been.

Speaker 2 You're so right. It's maybe not a lazy Susan.
It's just a little bit.

Speaker 3 No, Lazy Susan is like part of her table. Do you know what I mean? I feel like it's costing.

Speaker 2 It's huge. Her table's huge, too.

Speaker 3 It fits like 16. 100%.

Speaker 2 It's a round table that fits 16. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's gorgeous, gorgeous.

Speaker 3 No, it was such a great night. It was.

Speaker 2 It was a beautiful meal. Totally.

Speaker 3 No, I'm so happy you guys are here. It's been so great.

Speaker 2 I love it. Can I do one more critique of the food?

Speaker 2 Last critique.

Speaker 2 Final critique. Warm pita.
What are you supposed to dip it in, Olivia?

Speaker 3 Okay, but by the way.

Speaker 2 What was the pita for?

Speaker 3 Oh, like I was putting the chicken with the cucumber and tomato. Like, I was making a pick.

Speaker 2 You were making a pit, and then what were you putting on top of it?

Speaker 3 I don't need sauce and dips.

Speaker 2 Almost no tina, no nothing.

Speaker 3 I don't need sauce and dips like you, but I did hear that critique about you tonight, and I just want you to know I'm going from here to the store, and I will have 17,000 dips on my table.

Speaker 2 No, I just need a single dip. I need something to moisten the dry chicken.

Speaker 3 But you're always bringing a million condiments from the fridge. Get your ass up.

Speaker 2 I feel bad doing that. That's actually, look, I feel bad doing that.
When somebody has catered a meal for me, I feel bad asking for ketchup. It's not that nice.

Speaker 3 But no, I think that that's silly because I think people like to eat food a certain way. Like you and you love with like your mayo and making your crazy like honey mustards and your disgustingness.

Speaker 3 If you want feedback, that's my feedback to you.

Speaker 3 And by the way, and you have no problem coming to my house and taking every fucking condiment out of the fridge and concocting. I do.
You should have just done that. I do.

Speaker 3 By the way, hummus was not requested on the menu, so that's not the chef's fault.

Speaker 2 You're so right. You're absolutely right.
In case anybody's looking for a great quick sauce, Olivia is talking about my world-famous burger sauce. Okay.

Speaker 2 We're looking at mayonnaise, yellow mustard, ketchup, a drop of sriracha, and just a small hit of sesame oil. Olivia, this is...

Speaker 3 Sesame oil. I thought that that was

Speaker 3 that sort of like Big Mac sauce vibe with like pretty similar.

Speaker 3 Like you love a gherkin.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, I love a gherkin. Yeah, I love a gherkin.

Speaker 3 With a little like pickle juice, you know.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but I stopped chopping up pickles and putting them in sauces. I feel it's unnecessary.
The juice, lovely, but I just feel like I don't need that, the chopped pickles in it. Thickener.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, I'll put the pickles on. Did you see Joey Camasta? Speaking of pickles, did you see he just tried a sandwich in a friend?

Speaker 3 I just want you to know that I just saw that before I walked in here and I was like, oh my God. Like watching him take that bite.
First of all, you know that I die for Joey.

Speaker 3 Like I literally will throw myself in front of a bus for him. I'm obsessed with him.

Speaker 2 I actually, he's just, he's living in the wrong age. Joey, 30 years ago would have been discovered.
We know him now.

Speaker 3 I know, but he needs to be discovered.

Speaker 2 We need him now. He needs to be discovered.

Speaker 3 I know. No, also, the thing I love about Joey is just that, like, everything he does is so over the top, like, unbelievable.
Did you see the video that he did?

Speaker 3 It was like BTS in his kitchen, like, talking about what he was making, and he was just filming the same thing over and over with, like, six people standing in his kitchen. Yes.

Speaker 2 No, he's, he's so hysterical.

Speaker 3 He's so hysterical.

Speaker 2 But he, uh, watch his most recent video, if you guys didn't see it, He's in Paris. He's in Paris.
And he went to get a ham and cheese baguette. Yep.

Speaker 2 With beautiful cornichones, some mustard, and my God, this looks like the best fucking sandwich I've ever seen in my life. Ever, ever.

Speaker 3 By the way, and I was actually thinking because one of our stories has a Paris tie-in.

Speaker 3 And while he was taking that bite, I was literally thinking to myself, like, we are definitely going to be talking about Paris today on the toast. Yes.
So it's so funny that you brought that up.

Speaker 3 I thought that I would be bringing that up.

Speaker 2 It just means that we're both

Speaker 2 on our phones a little bit too much and we don't miss a beat. And actually, my, what's your screen time?

Speaker 3 Oh, I don't know. I don't look.

Speaker 2 I think we should look. I want to know what your screen time is.
My screen time. Okay.
Let's see. How do I find screen time?

Speaker 2 I'm thinking about me.

Speaker 3 If you just search screen time.

Speaker 2 My screen time is.

Speaker 3 I'll let you go first.

Speaker 2 Oof.

Speaker 2 That can't be true. What is it? I don't know.

Speaker 3 That can't be true. That can't be true.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 Last week it says that my screen time was nine hours a day.

Speaker 3 Okay, mine was seven hours and 47 minutes.

Speaker 2 That sounds good, but I thought mine used to be screwed.

Speaker 3 And I just want everybody to know that like at night, like I watch so much TV and scroll on my phone for hours. Like, I stay up late.

Speaker 3 So, the fact that, like, my screen time, I thought I was expecting it to be like 10 hours.

Speaker 2 I'm not gonna lie, I have to put this thing away.

Speaker 3 Yeah,

Speaker 2 nine hours?

Speaker 3 You should do a kid lock on it. Like, you know how people, like, you get one hour a day on Instagram, you know?

Speaker 2 Yeah, nine hours.

Speaker 3 But, like, where are you spending your time? Go back to that.

Speaker 2 I, because I'm not on Instagram that often.

Speaker 3 So, you say. Good question.

Speaker 2 Where am I?

Speaker 3 See all app and website activity.

Speaker 2 Is that show categories?

Speaker 3 Yeah, Instagram is my most used.

Speaker 2 It's embarrassing. Social productivity and finance.

Speaker 3 No, you're in a different place than I am.

Speaker 3 You got to go to see all app and website activity. Where? Grandpa.
Right underneath the bar chart. Wow, you're nine and a half hours.

Speaker 2 It's just last week. Just last week.
I don't know what that was.

Speaker 3 What were you doing last week?

Speaker 2 I don't know. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And then when you do that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, most used is Instagram. Yeah.
Instagram, messages, Zoom. Oh, I take Zooms from my phone.
That's not fair.

Speaker 3 I honestly, that's fine.

Speaker 2 I have three hours of Zooms a day. Okay.
That's not fair.

Speaker 3 But while you're on the Zoom, you're also scrolling on your phone because you're on your phone.

Speaker 2 No, I'm active on Zoom. Otherwise, why am I taking a Zoom?

Speaker 3 Why are you taking a Zoom from your phone?

Speaker 2 Because my computer sometimes isn't fully charged. Also,

Speaker 3 I mean, you're always dead.

Speaker 2 Also, the Wi-Fi in the clubhouse was down, Live.

Speaker 3 Was it down?

Speaker 3 Who should I take it up with?

Speaker 2 I don't know. If somebody's going to take it up with somebody, it's going to be you.
It's going to be me. You're going to write a letter.
Even my mom love a letter.

Speaker 3 You know what? I don't love a letter, actually. I love to just like storm the Bastille.
Like, I show up and I'm like, hello, did you know? Got it.

Speaker 2 My mom loves a letter. I complain to her about it.

Speaker 3 Well, you know, ChatGPT could write you a gorgeous letter these days.

Speaker 2 So honestly, that's like a great idea. That's a lawyer.

Speaker 2 100%.

Speaker 2 One lawyer. You can literally write, like, write this in legalese and they will do it.
But I told, I actually haven't told this story. I will tell it.
Let's hear it. Tell it on the toast.

Speaker 2 On our way to Florida, I took my seat and all of a sudden we're about to take off. And I feel like I was shot in the neck, literally shot in the neck.
I'm like, what the fuck was that?

Speaker 2 A bottle, a huge bottle of Newman's own salad dressing dropped out from the overhead bin and hit me right in the neck.

Speaker 3 Like hit me

Speaker 2 straight in the neck. And I looked, the woman to my left, like, oh my God, I'm so sorry.
Are you, I couldn't bring, Claudia couldn't bring her sand Pellegrino.

Speaker 2 She couldn't bring her Pellegrino, but she has a 16-ounce bottle of salad dressing. And she sneaked it through TSA.
Also, how cheap are you? How cheap are you? Why? Publix.

Speaker 2 Go to Publix and get your dressing. Stop using, stop weaponizing your dressing on a plane.
She tried to kill me, this woman. But so the reason I brought that up is my mom, I told my mom this story.

Speaker 2 Oh, she's like, Ben, you absolutely need to write a letter to the airline. They're going to give you a free flight.
I'm like, mom, I'm not writing a letter. It's over.
It's not happening.

Speaker 2 Why would I want this?

Speaker 3 The thing is,

Speaker 3 I love Ava's desire for justice for you. And that is why she's just like an A-plus human being.

Speaker 3 However, why would the airline give you a flight for something that a random passenger did?

Speaker 2 Because my mom said that they could get in a lot of trouble for allowing the 16 ounces of liquid through, and they can only have three. Right.
That said, it's hearsay, Liv.

Speaker 2 Right, but you did have a bread mark on it. I did have a bruise.
You did. I did have a bruise.
Yeah. It's gone, thank God.
I thought I was going to have to go to like Dr.

Speaker 2 Dubreau or something, like get some plastic surgery, but no, it's gone. It went away really quickly.
But really,

Speaker 2 I was worried that I wouldn't have a functioning right turn. But I

Speaker 3 did. You just have a

Speaker 3 functioning left turn.

Speaker 2 I prevailed.

Speaker 3 Ben and I, you know,

Speaker 3 we are like so devastated that Claudia is not here today, but it was supposed to be Claudia and me doing the toast. So, but Claudia and I have the same side.

Speaker 3 So, I was like, last night as I was thinking, I'm like, wow, like, I really don't want to be sitting there. Like, my body doesn't turn that way, you know?

Speaker 3 And then when we sat down today, you said, you know, you have actually the same ailments.

Speaker 2 And I were both like Zoolander. It's just actually now that I'm, yeah, no, I have the same exact thing as you.
Oh, no. I'm uncomfortable.
Wait, look.

Speaker 2 I don't like looking right. No, this is perfect.

Speaker 3 Oh, you're happy? You're good.

Speaker 2 I only can look left.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 3 and I really can only look right.

Speaker 2 I can't look right. Even though I'm looking right, I can't look right.

Speaker 3 I can't look right. No, you can.
It's just like, it's not comfortable. Like, it's not comfortable for me to sit like this.
I don't know. There's just something about it.
I just feel like,

Speaker 3 like, I don't like it. It's very uncomfortable.
So, anyways, this is great for me.

Speaker 2 This is great. This is great.
Should we get into the fast five stories that people need to know before they take a bite out of their morning crunch toast?

Speaker 2 You just wanted to do that so badly. What are our stories? Do we have anything good?

Speaker 3 We have things that are so good.

Speaker 2 Really?

Speaker 3 So good. I literally

Speaker 3 can't wait to tell you all about them.

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Speaker 3 Okay, first story. This one I feel like you'll have a lot of perspectives on.
Kraft releases apple pie flavored mac and cheese meant for Thanksgiving.

Speaker 3 Oh my God, I was like, is he burping? Like, what the fuck is he doing? It's a Walmart exclusive and it has cinnamon, brown sugar, and molasses to the bright orange cheesy sauce.

Speaker 3 Wow, that is some fucking sub headline. Kraft has a new savory sweet side for your Thanksgiving spread.
Probably will not be at our Thanksgiving spread, but we'll talk about that.

Speaker 2 That's one of the most revolting things I've ever heard in my whole life.

Speaker 3 Well, the macaroni and cheese brand revealed its limited time apple pie flavor on November 3rd. It's a Walmart exclusive and it adds cinnamon, brown sugar, molasses, et cetera.

Speaker 3 They took, it's very interesting. The article literally repurposed the first paragraph as the subheadline.

Speaker 2 Is that like journalistic integrity? Like, get creative here.

Speaker 3 Crafts brand new flavors were motivated by merging the two popular turkey day dishes, macaroni and cheese and apple pie, even though they should be eaten separately and not together.

Speaker 3 Just like other Kraft mac and cheese iterations, fans just have to cook the noodles in boiling water, drain, add butter and milk before pouring in the cheese mixture and mixing.

Speaker 3 And the box pasta is sold exclusively at Walmart for $1.50.

Speaker 2 Yeah, because it's marketing. It's disgusting.
Okay, this is disgusting. They literally did this.

Speaker 3 This does sound disgusting, but do you think if you tried it, you would be like, wow, it's not that bad?

Speaker 2 No, I think I would say that it's disgusting. And what really bothers me, and I love Kraft.
I mean, we did our,

Speaker 2 we did our Klaus and Pickle collab with Kraft. Right.
They're all in on the collab.

Speaker 3 They're so good at collabs.

Speaker 2 So good at collabs. But I think somebody in marketing has realized that if it's a big, crazy idea, it's gonna we're gonna talk about it.
Yeah. Like we're literally talking about it now.

Speaker 2 Well, they've done a lot of it. Because it sounds disgusting.
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 Like if they made something that's talking about it because it sounds disgusting?

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 3 Oh, okay. Well, because here's the other thing I want to add to the marketing point, which is, and we are marketers, so like we can have a marketing discussion.
We can, we can.

Speaker 3 But Kraft tapped apple pie expert Jason Biggs for the surprising flavor as the Apple Pie alum starred in a 15-second spot about the Krafts new flavor.

Speaker 2 You mean Apple Pie

Speaker 2 Jason Biggs? He's an actor. I've never heard that he has any.

Speaker 3 He was in American Pie.

Speaker 2 Great, great, but that doesn't make him an apple pie connoisseur.

Speaker 3 Well, the journalistic integrity of this article, I won't share where it's from, is obviously part of the problem in perpetuating this lie about Jason Biggs.

Speaker 2 I don't even understand. This makes it even worse.
This makes the whole thing even worse. That said,

Speaker 2 I'm trying to think of like what's going on.

Speaker 3 It's definitely very gimmicky, but they have done a lot of Kraft has done a lot of collabs recently that like they did DJ Mustard and the mustard. Like they, some of them, I think, hit.

Speaker 3 I think others, maybe not so much.

Speaker 2 It's the cheapest form of viral marketing.

Speaker 3 That's what it is. But maybe, maybe it's really been working for them.

Speaker 2 No, no, it has. That's what I'm saying.
But like, we're, our culture rewards these gimmicky products because we're so excited to take a picture of them and try them.

Speaker 2 And then all of a sudden, Kraft sees, oh, they're going to talk about it on the toast for free. Yeah, they're going to talk about it on the toast for free because it's viral and gimmicky.

Speaker 3 Well, I would like to say something. I think that they should send it to us.
I think we should try it. Sure.
I think we should give it a fair shot.

Speaker 2 Great. And then we're going to give them more free media.
Like,

Speaker 2 this is what they want. want.
Yeah, totally. No, pay me.

Speaker 3 Honestly, I'm happy for them. It's a good idea.

Speaker 2 It's a great idea. What do you think would have been a good Thanksgiving-inspired mac and cheese blend? Like if you something more savory.

Speaker 2 Like if you were tasked with making a great sounding mac and cheese collab with Kraft, what would you have done?

Speaker 3 Similar to what you made the other day, like a butternut squash or like something maybe out of vegetable and like partner with local farmers.

Speaker 3 Like, I don't know, like do something that's like give back to the community and like look for kids. And do you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 Like apple pie is like for the end of the meal and mac mac and cheese is for the middle of the meal. And I just don't think those two things should be brought together.

Speaker 3 I do think that a lot of people do like sort of a savory, sweet vibe during the meal. I'm like, I'm like, if I'm eating savory, like, I want savory all together and then like sweets at the end.

Speaker 2 You know, I can do savory and sweet. Like, I really like schnitzel with Mike's hot honey, like that vibe.

Speaker 3 Or like the mashed potato, not mashed potatoes, sweet potatoes with the marshmallows on top that's like so Jewish.

Speaker 2 Delicious, fantastic. Or maybe a sweet kuggle.
Right.

Speaker 2 I can't think think of the consistency of a craft mac and cheese where it's that like thick, you know, it's coming in a powder. Yeah.
That can't possibly be good.

Speaker 3 Well, that's why I would say like if you added a vegetable or like a fruit powder and that powder didn't feel so radioactive. Oof, I'm out.
I mean, clawing.

Speaker 2 I'm out on fruit and vegetable powder. I'm out.
I can't do that.

Speaker 2 No, I can't.

Speaker 3 What? You could do the flaming orange powder? No, I can't do any of it.

Speaker 2 It just, I'm actually, I'm turned off. I'm done.
I think I'm done with them.

Speaker 3 I think I'm going to go to Walmart and get it for you.

Speaker 2 Okay. It might taste good.
Maybe it tastes like nothing.

Speaker 3 It probably tastes like just like sweet Kogel, honestly. Sweet Kogel.
With the brown sugar and molasses. It probably doesn't taste like cheesy mac and cheese.

Speaker 2 Did they say it tastes like turkey?

Speaker 3 No. What did they say? Mac and cheese meets apple pie.
How on earth would that taste like turkey?

Speaker 2 Mac and cheese meets apple pie. It probably tastes like sweet kogel.
It's probably delicious. What an arc.
What an arc. What an arc.
100%.

Speaker 3 By the way, is Thanksgiving like your favorite day of the year?

Speaker 2 That's interesting, Liv. Thanksgiving is solid.
Yeah. I think you make a really great turkey.

Speaker 3 I'm making the turkey this year. Did you know that I've already pre-purchased my turkey? It's coming from a farm in New Jersey.

Speaker 2 That is excellent work by you. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 It's pasture-raised, kosher.

Speaker 3 I like went all out.

Speaker 2 What I will say is that the problem with most Thanksgiving meals is that the host doesn't know how to make a great turkey. Interesting.
And you do.

Speaker 2 So for far too long, I have said, I hate roast turkey. I do prefer smoked turkey.
My dream Thanksgiving meal is literally two pounds of smoked turkey. Okay, thinly sliced

Speaker 2 sandwich. I'm a smoker.

Speaker 3 Should we get a turkey breast and smoke a breast?

Speaker 2 That sounds very interesting, smoked breast.

Speaker 2 We should do it. I think you should just get a

Speaker 2 slicer. If we can have like thinly sliced.

Speaker 3 It's really about the cut, I actually think. I agree.
Yeah. The other thing that I've always wanted to do, which like I have zero plans to do this year, but to deep fry a turkey like in the yard.

Speaker 3 Yeah. You know?

Speaker 2 Yeah, Hardoon does that. They,

Speaker 2 my friend, yeah, they put literally like a big ass turkey in a fryer and they do the whole thing. It's just,

Speaker 2 I don't know, Liv.

Speaker 3 What? What don't you know? I don't know.

Speaker 2 It's just, I guess you could hold in moisture that way. That's good.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and like crispy skin, but even though I'm not like super skin person.

Speaker 2 You really have perfected the turkey. I wouldn't touch your recipe.
Yeah. Make a really moist turkey.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I know that some people take issue with the word moist, but I don't know how else you would describe a moist turkey. No, wet sick.

Speaker 2 A compliment. Wet is worse, right?

Speaker 3 Is wet worse? No, moist and juicy. Juicy.

Speaker 2 Juicy is probably the right word. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Juicy is also kind of a weird word.

Speaker 2 They all can be weird if you have a sick, perverted mind.

Speaker 3 It's really the way your mouth says it, juicy.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Jew. You threw in the Jew there.
You really went hard Jew in the juicy.

Speaker 3 It's not my fault. Those are the letters.
Interesting. We should just start spelling Jew, J-U-I.

Speaker 2 Okay, that's your Jewy.

Speaker 2 We're so friendly and Joey. Like Joey.

Speaker 2 We got another story.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we got another story. Ready? What are we going to do?

Speaker 2 Our second story is...

Speaker 3 This one is so for you. Tell me.
When I saw it, I was like, we have to talk about this just because I'm not even going to speak. I just want to hear what you have to say.

Speaker 3 Charles Barkley admits he burned all of his underwear about 30 years ago and is always going commando i realized that underwear was not a necessity the nba legend admitted on monday night football on november 3rd wow november november 3rd was a big thing monday night football he does monday night football now

Speaker 3 Okay, well, we'll get into the details because it says that Charles Barkley hung up his jersey in 2000, but read another article of clothing years sooner.

Speaker 3 You guys, like, seriously,

Speaker 3 this publication needs just like ChatGPT for the post, right? No. Who is it?

Speaker 2 People magazine. Oh, all right, whatever.

Speaker 3 The basketball analyst and commentator, 62. Did you know he was 62?

Speaker 2 No, he looks great for 62.

Speaker 3 He does. Sidestepped football talk amid the Arizona Cardinals' late 17-point lead over the Dallas Cowboys.
So sad.

Speaker 3 During Monday night football to answer a hard-hitting question posed by Peyton Manning during the broadcast. Is it true you burned all of your underwear almost 20 years ago and haven't worn any since?

Speaker 3 Who told Peyton Manning to ask him that? We have so much to discuss. The two-time Super Bowl winner asked the NBA Hall of Famer on Manning cast opposite his brother Eli Manning on November 3rd.

Speaker 3 Without hesitation, Barkley answered the football brothers directly, even corrected them on their timeline, sharing context behind his decision and whether there was truth behind the lore.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I realized that underwear was not a necessity, replied the 11-time NBA All-Star. It was a big fire, too, Peyton.
I'm always going Commando. I burned all my underwear about 30 years ago.

Speaker 3 And like I said, it was a big fire. Oh, my.
Barkley added, so I'm always going to Commando. I'm always going Commando for the rest of my life.

Speaker 3 The longtime New York Giants star then surprised the retired NBA star with a very fitting present. Wow, it's like the biggest pair of undies.

Speaker 3 Oh my God. Chuck, I actually got you a gift to commemorate you being on our first ever Manning cast, Eli told Barkley.
Wait, we have to put the picture of these ginormous undies

Speaker 3 with the Manning brothers' faces on them.

Speaker 2 Oh my God.

Speaker 3 Oh my God. We're going to get the picture up here because holy fucking shit.

Speaker 3 He said, I was planning to mail it to you, but I'm sorry I didn't know the story about you wearing underwear before having made these. Oh, please.

Speaker 3 Totally did. Anyways, what the fuck?

Speaker 2 Yeah, okay. So

Speaker 2 there's so many things here. First of all, and this is no shade.
I love Charles Barkley. Yeah.
He's hysterical. Okay.

Speaker 2 He only recently started doing those row ads because he started to lose like a ton of weight from GLPs. Yeah.
He's been a large man.

Speaker 2 And I can say that as like a morbidly obese man, like 99% of my life. Right.
Even like now at like one of my skinniest, I'm still like technically my BMI is way too high.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but BMI is like not real.

Speaker 2 Whatever. You know, too fat.
I don't believe in it.

Speaker 2 He, you can't be a fat man and not wear underwear.

Speaker 3 Like he, I don't think you can be a human being and not wear underwear.

Speaker 2 Period. But it's different.
Like if you're like a skinny person, you're eating really clean, like there's like a solid chance that you're not shitting your pants during the day.

Speaker 2 Like when you're a fat person, at least once a year, you are going to let some shit out.

Speaker 3 Okay, forget about the rug.

Speaker 2 You're going to shark.

Speaker 2 No, no, you're going to shark. What about

Speaker 3 existing, literally, like your legs and your pants, and like you, like, those are your private parts. You should keep them sacred.
Like, it's just wrong.

Speaker 2 It's super uncomfortable. Anybody that wears, first of all, there are different articles of clothing that could work Commando and not Commando.
I certainly hope he was never wearing jeans.

Speaker 3 Okay, you can't wear. He's never wearing underwear, period.
No, but of course he's not wearing underwear with jeans.

Speaker 2 But I hope that he doesn't wear jeans. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 I mean, I'm sure at some point over the last 20 plus years, he has worn a pair of jeans. Now I haven't, but maybe you're not.

Speaker 2 Imagine wearing jeans with no underwear. Imagine wearing no underwear.
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 Sorry, imagine wearing no underwear.

Speaker 2 As a man, you go to the urinal and you zip down your zipper for the jeans, okay? And then you pee.

Speaker 2 And then you pee. And then you pee.
My dad loves to tell a story

Speaker 2 about how

Speaker 2 when he was eight years old, he went to the urinal and his Uncle Bummy helped him pull back up his zipper and clipped his nuts right in the zipper. And ever since, he's told me, beware of the zipper.

Speaker 2 Charles Barkley, when he was at that urinal, Olivia, I promise you, he clipped his nuts.

Speaker 3 I do not think that your dad gave us permission for you to tell that story. He did.

Speaker 2 He did. He did.
He did. Oh, my God.
Uncle Bummy lives on, lives on for.

Speaker 3 How do you spell Bummy?

Speaker 2 B-U-M-M-Y

Speaker 2 Bummy. Maybe I.
I actually don't know his real name, Uncle Bummy.

Speaker 3 We need to find out his real name. That is some name.

Speaker 2 Yes, another fun fact, which I've told all these stories on Good Guys. Another fun fact about Bruce, my grandfather was breastfed till he was eight.
You know that, Liv? You know that, Liv?

Speaker 2 Breastfed till he was eight. And how long did he live?

Speaker 2 He lived to 93.

Speaker 2 93.

Speaker 3 Maybe there's a correlation. 100%.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 3 for sure. Yeah, but that's pretty wild.

Speaker 3 Was there a reason? Was he like the oldest? And then all these other kids came and like they just like kept needing to all be breastfed?

Speaker 2 No, I think that like that's an excellent question. I haven't dug deep.
I always just heard that story and I was like, how that's fucking disgusting, honestly. Like that was what I heard.

Speaker 3 It was just like also a different time. Like I think those things were way more normalized.
Now when you hear it today, it's like that's weird. But like, is it?

Speaker 2 I don't know if it's weird. Yeah.
I think it's a little bit weird having an eight-year-old with teeth walk up to a breast and take it, you know? Like, that's like a little strange.

Speaker 3 Right, but what about in the comfort of your own home where you're like not thinking about it, and this is just the way that the child's being fed?

Speaker 2 I guess so. It's much cheaper.
My God, the amount of money you save on groceries.

Speaker 2 Not really. Why? If they're only being breastfed?

Speaker 3 They're not only being breastfed. Yeah, that's true.
You're right.

Speaker 2 You're right. It's supplemental.
They're eating.

Speaker 3 It's like, okay, what? You're saving like on a carton of milk every other week.

Speaker 2 So it's supplemental. You're right.
You're right. You're right.
Back to Charles Barkley. Yeah, so Charles.

Speaker 1 And not Ben's family answer.

Speaker 2 So Charles Barkley, Commando.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's.

Speaker 3 Do you think he says some of these things just for like, like, somebody put him up to this with the whole undies gift?

Speaker 2 Whatnot? It's so funny. Like, he doesn't mind being the butt of the joke.
Yeah. And, like, yes, I absolutely think that he told somebody this story.
He was in on the story. Right.
But he is amazing.

Speaker 2 He's lost so much weight with Roe. I don't know if you've seen that.

Speaker 3 No, I haven't seen it.

Speaker 2 But he's like the face of Roe.

Speaker 3 He's the face of Roe no, Serena Williams is, but maybe he's the male face. She's a face.

Speaker 2 Yeah. He's a face.

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah, understood.

Speaker 2 He is killing it. He's lost a ton of weight.
GLPs are killing it for him. Yeah.
I mean, I love a GLP. Yeah, don't we all? Absolutely fantastic.
But he looks great. And

Speaker 2 yeah, you know, I don't know when he started doing football. He's an NBA player.

Speaker 3 I think maybe he was just a guest on the Manning Brothers show,

Speaker 3 which is why, like, he's a sports-related person. Oh, my God.
I'm so sorry. That is so inappropriate of me.
That's okay. Just say it again.

Speaker 2 What? Just say what... Just like what it is.
Oh, just finished my thoughts.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah. I just think he was a guest on their show, not that he was a commentator on Monday Night Football.
Yes. Do you know anything about the Manning cast, like the Amazon, whatever?

Speaker 3 Is it Amazon Monday Night Football?

Speaker 2 I have no idea. All that I know is that they produced my new favorite show, Chad Powers.
Have you seen Chad Powers? No, should I? Oh, my God, you would love it.

Speaker 3 Really, would I? What is it about?

Speaker 2 It is Mrs. Doubtfire meets football.
That's what it is. It is a disgrace.
It's a comedy? Yes. It's a disgraced football player

Speaker 2 who was.

Speaker 3 Did you watch Stick?

Speaker 3 No. Okay, that's a disgraced golf player, Owen Wilson, on Apple TV.
So if you like that, you would like that.

Speaker 2 I actually heard heard that I would love Stick because it has like a Ted Lasso feel. It does.
And I love Ted Lasso.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's not quite as good as Ted Lasso, I'll be honest about it.

Speaker 2 But Chad Powers, Olydia, he's a disgraced football player and he wants to come back to football. So he literally, his dad is like a makeup artist in Hollywood and he fully euphogenizes his face.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And he goes and tries out for a college football team, makes it, and is like the best. I haven't made it to the end to see if he gets caught.
I'm sure he does.

Speaker 3 Are you giving shit away? No, no, no.

Speaker 2 Well, yeah, spoiler alert. Sorry.
But no, that's like the highest level fuck spoiler alerts, okay?

Speaker 3 Like you're telling everybody, like, what's it about?

Speaker 2 I know, but like, you wouldn't have watched it anyways.

Speaker 3 Why? You told me to. I would have taken your alert.

Speaker 2 But I'm saying, like, it's not my job to tell you about a show and then not tell you more about it. Like, I'm talking to you about it.
It's too, like, you know, I didn't go into the nitty-gritty.

Speaker 2 Sure. So I'm just supposed to say, watch Chad Powers and not tell you why.

Speaker 3 No, you said, you said euphagenia meets disgraced or defunct football player.

Speaker 2 Yes. Maybe that's where you just left me.

Speaker 3 I didn't tell you anything about stick. He's disgraced.
I just said like, yeah, disgraced golfer.

Speaker 3 You didn't tell me enough about sticks for me to love it and you then told me that uh it wasn't enough like ted lasso and i love ted lasso well i need a little bit lasso is at the like tell me more about stick sell me do you actually want me to tell you yeah tell me more not like too much no if like if you if you don't want to hear this you should not move on too much no anyway so stick owen wilson i forget the name of his character he was like at the prime of his life in golf and basically like has a mentee b and um like totally flops and like we meet him at this point in his life where he's like getting a divorce selling his house he has absolutely nothing And it finds this kid who is a complete golf prodigy and like literally like sells his whole life to take him on the road and be his coach so that he can get back into golf.

Speaker 3 And he likes that. Oh, that's nice.
But it's, but it's very comedic done. It's not like.

Speaker 2 See, by the way, you told me enough to get me in. Not too much to spoil it.
No, I didn't. That was a wonderful entree into the show.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 it's similar to the Happy Gilmore 2. I guess he doesn't end up playing.
But like, Happy Gilmore 2.

Speaker 3 I watched it, but I can't remember.

Speaker 2 Olivia was such a bad movie.

Speaker 2 The first 45 minutes were so good.

Speaker 3 Well, it was just about who was in it. Like, that was the whole point of the show.
The first 45 minutes.

Speaker 2 Or movie, I should say. It was so good, and then the rest of it was no good.

Speaker 2 But yeah, I don't know how we got here. Charles Barkley.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Charles Barkley. We got into sports.
We did.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 Would you consider Good Guys a Sports Podcast?

Speaker 2 No, not at all. Not at all.
Not at all. Does Josh like sports?

Speaker 2 No, no. I mean, he's actually a big L.A.
Kings fan. He kind of likes hockey.
And his father-in-law played for the Jets for 10 years. So he's like sports adjacent, Ken O'Brien.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Didn't know that, but then I think it's it's QB. Love to know that.
But yeah, no, we don't talk about sports at all.

Speaker 2 And I don't wish that we did.

Speaker 3 I'm not sure what to do. No, no, whatever we're doing is really working.

Speaker 2 No, but I'm happy. No, but I'm happy not talking about sports.
When you talk about sports, you have to be more topical. You can't talk about sports from two weeks ago.

Speaker 2 Oh, Jalen Brunson had a great game. They're like, when, Ben, when? Right.
So we're just like funny and light. And

Speaker 2 we release it. And if we release it two weeks later.

Speaker 3 Right. Well, you're doing a lot of interviews with people and like you have to coordinate schedules and whatnot.
So yes. Yeah.
It has to be evergreen.

Speaker 3 correct we just had a great episode with john stamos i mean i saw it everywhere yeah yeah i mean he he spilled the tea he spilled the tea yeah you've had some great guests on good guys yeah we have i love watching your clips i do feel like sometimes you talk about me on good guys like you're always telling stories i definitely i definitely have yeah yeah i just like hear things through the grapevine you know that's always how i find out about stuff like people will be in my dms well like

Speaker 2 and i'm like oh what happened that's literally what happens to me all the time on the show like did you hear what they said about you i'm like no and i don't want to know stop it oh you don't want to know nope oh

Speaker 2 that's unfortunate.

Speaker 3 I go run. I'm like, what today?

Speaker 2 Nope. Nope.
I don't want to know. I don't want to know.
I don't want to know anything ever. Tell me nothing.
That's so interesting. And just like, let me exist in a world where I can't.

Speaker 2 You live in a bubble.

Speaker 2 I live in a bubble.

Speaker 3 But you're so happy in your bubble, so it works for you.

Speaker 2 I'm so happy in my bubble. I'm so ill-informed sometimes, like, especially about pop culture, but I own it and it's great.

Speaker 3 You know what? I am incredibly informed and incredibly uninformed at the same time. Sure.
You know,

Speaker 3 I think you're pretty informed. No, I know a lot of things, but like, I don't don't like watch and sit around and like watch a lot of Bravo.

Speaker 3 I used to back in the day, so I'm like aware of like the players and whatnot, but like I don't watch like reality TV really. I'm watching like dark crime, you know?

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, you're, you're scary.

Speaker 3 I'm scary, but you guys gave me a scary recommendation.

Speaker 2 Wayward. If you, I think Claudia's already spoken about it, but if she hasn't spoken about it, I went looking forward.

Speaker 3 Are you sure it's on Netflix?

Speaker 2 Yes, Wayward. Okay, I have to go back.

Speaker 3 It is.

Speaker 2 It is spooky. It is about a troubled teen facility where they get kidnapped in the middle of the night.

Speaker 3 Do you know what? Can I just tell you something? That's too dark for me.

Speaker 2 It's really fucking dark.

Speaker 3 I don't like that. I actually skipped over that.
I know exactly what you're talking about now. Thank you for gleaning some insights from it so I could decide whether or not it's for me.
It's not.

Speaker 2 So it's for you. It's only spooky like that for like two episodes, and then it becomes this like eerie town mystery.

Speaker 2 I'm telling you. Okay, I will take your recommendation.

Speaker 3 I just like when I talk about like dark, I'm more so talking about like murder mystery, whodunit vibes and like forensics and clues because like I like to investigate.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's you.

Speaker 3 But I do not like like really like morally fucked up things, you know?

Speaker 2 How did you become such a great detective?

Speaker 3 I think I just

Speaker 3 pay really close attention to a lot of things. Like I'm very detail-oriented.

Speaker 2 No, but you know, but you're also, you're also able to find things that other, others aren't.

Speaker 2 Like we will literally go to Olivia and we're like, find the social security number for this security guard and she will find it. I can't.

Speaker 2 Yes, you can. No, no, no.
You could. You don't think you could?

Speaker 3 No, not a social security.

Speaker 2 A credit card number?

Speaker 3 No, probably not. Not like personal information.

Speaker 2 Are you a hacker? No. I am like very basic.

Speaker 3 I mean, didn't you just hear my phone ring?

Speaker 2 I can barely use a device. Yeah, but that could have been like somebody calling you to confirm like your newest scheme.

Speaker 2 Like you're not like texting the elderly, like trying to get their social security numbers. Like I think that you could do that.

Speaker 3 I would never.

Speaker 2 Are you fucking kidding me? No, it's just like if you need to like know something about someone, like imagine like that new crypto scam is you. Like give me your Bitcoin number.

Speaker 2 Do you know how many times my dad call you?

Speaker 3 I don't even understand like Web3 blockchain crypto. Like I will not partake in it, even though people talk about it being the future because I genuinely don't understand it.

Speaker 3 Like I cannot participate in things that I do not understand.

Speaker 2 No, miss me on it. That said, if my dad calls me one more time asking if something is real, like dad, you don't, you don't have everything is fake.
You don't have a Coinbase account.

Speaker 2 Everything is fake. So how in the world could somebody be trying to send you Bitcoin? Yeah, no, you don't.
You're not in it. Is he getting phished all the time? All the time.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God, a little really unfortunately fished all the time he'll literally get a call from the banks you and doesn't get a call from the bank you never answer any numbers you don't know no he'll get a call from the bank uh we're we want we need you to approve this wire he's like what wire they're like this wire he's like oh sure

Speaker 2 dad they don't call from the bank has he ever gotten into like a bad situation i think one time he gave somebody like eighteen hundred dollars but like really not good yeah yeah yeah no but he's learned he's learned his lesson and he no longer falls for it but i'm telling you like the amount I'm feeling sad for him.

Speaker 3 I don't want to go track down that $1,800. No, no, this is a good idea.

Speaker 2 No, no, this is, by the way, you think just him. Anybody over

Speaker 2 anybody over the age of 50 is susceptible to this. 100%.
They're too trusting. And I think it was Sam Altman who said it recently.

Speaker 2 The fact that banks are still using voice to confirm wires when we live in an age of AI where I could literally take your voice as scary as it is and confirm a wire. 100%.
So dumb. So dumb.
So dumb.

Speaker 2 We're living in a world, which is very scary to think about, where we're so advanced and we're so behind all at once.

Speaker 3 And that's going to meet,

Speaker 2 really scary.

Speaker 3 I agree. I totally agree.
It's going to be really scary. I mean, in a lot of ways, like, things feel like very backwards.

Speaker 3 Like, why aren't, like, why does it still take like six hours on a flight to go like from one side of the country to the other?

Speaker 2 Why do I have to go to the DMV ever?

Speaker 3 Well, yeah, I try not to do that.

Speaker 2 Why can't I text someone to get a new passport?

Speaker 3 Like, why can't I take a picture at at home and send like it's just yeah there's so many archaic things going on so many so many yet we're so advanced liv i know we could be more advanced i think we could i think that's why people are afraid of ai but at the same time like ai has been around for a while it wasn't just invented like last year do you know what i mean ai has been around for like 15 years i think more of like the consumer application is obviously way more of like you know regular human beings using chat gpt to say like here's what's in my fridge what should i make for dinner tonight you know having sort of that assistance but ai as a technology is not new.

Speaker 2 No, it's just starting to pick up steam. Yeah.
And it's really fucking scary. Do we have another story, by the way?

Speaker 3 We do. We have, we have three more stories, actually.
I'm just enjoying speaking to you.

Speaker 2 No, me too. I'm, I'm just.

Speaker 3 Oh, this is our Paris story. Ooh, ooh.
The Louvre's surveillance system password was reportedly Louvre.

Speaker 2 Reveals

Speaker 2 deploy. You're lying.
On October 30th. The security password was Louvre.

Speaker 3 I know. And by the way, who would do that other than you?

Speaker 2 You know, your password's probably Ben. No, no, mine are like, actually, no, I'm not going to say it.
I'm not going to say it in front of everyone.

Speaker 3 I was gonna say, actually, it's not, it is but how I figure out people's social security numbers and credit card numbers. It's because they share their fucking passwords on the dope.

Speaker 2 Totally, no, that was really, that was literally, I literally almost gave away all no, I would have made them cut it out because

Speaker 2 they're so stupid of you. What am I, what's wrong with me? I literally, like, no, it's too trusting.

Speaker 2 You're too trusted. No, I'm not trusting.
I'm just like, I don't know what that was.

Speaker 3 A Louvre employee is revealing one important security detail. On October 18th, which is my sweet Levi's birthday,

Speaker 3 thieves broke into the famous Paris Museum and in seven minutes stole more than 100 million in jewels.

Speaker 3 Since the investigation began, which let's be honest, the investigation is fucking nowhere, it has been uncovered that the suspects forced entry using power tools to break through the second-floor window at the Galerie de Apollon, the Apollo gallery, which had opened its doors to the public.

Speaker 3 President and director of the Louvre Laurence de Cars, that's probably saying it wrong, told the French Senate that the only camera installed outside the Apollo gallery did not capture footage of the window where the thieves broke in and exited.

Speaker 3 Sure. Inside job.
Set up this specific

Speaker 3 gallery. Louvre full inside job.

Speaker 2 They obviously changed the password to Louvre. It wasn't Louvre.
Okay. It wasn't.
They definitely did a strong password like they recommend on Apple, right? The ZW974 that you don't know.

Speaker 2 Somebody else knows. Somebody went in, changed it to Louvre disabled the cameras.
This was an inside job. Fucking shit.

Speaker 3 Or, or, or, or, or the password was Louvre, and it was just like so silly and stupid because they never thought that anybody would ever think about that, let alone attempt to rob.

Speaker 3 And the people that were responsible for this Apollo gallery knew exactly where the camera was set up, so they circumvented the camera when they did their robbery.

Speaker 2 Inside job.

Speaker 3 Anyways, at the time of the heist, the password for the museum security was Louvre.

Speaker 3 A museum employee with knowledge of the system told ABC News on Wednesday, November 5th, the French outlet Liberation first reported on the password, citing confidential documents.

Speaker 3 This is seriously insane. And the museum director said he was appalled.
Yeah, no shit.

Speaker 2 Please, he was appalled. How much money do you think he made? I mean, inside job.

Speaker 3 Totally inside job. The fact that it is for a specific

Speaker 3 gallery.

Speaker 2 What'd they steal?

Speaker 3 They stole like all these Napoleonic crowns and jewels.

Speaker 2 Got it. So things that they could completely dismember and sell.

Speaker 3 Correct. Which they obviously have.

Speaker 3 The jewels stolen in the heist include a sapphire tiara, a sapphire necklace, a single sapphire earring, a matching emerald necklace and emerald earrings, a tiara, a large brooch.

Speaker 2 Brooch? Brooch. Brooke.
A second brooch.

Speaker 2 By the way, it's like.

Speaker 3 Not brooch. Of course, but when you're looking at it, B-R-O-O-C-H.
Oh.

Speaker 2 Brooch.

Speaker 3 Thank you. Got it, okay.

Speaker 2 Thank you. Yeah, like

Speaker 3 known as the Reliquary Brooch. I almost said brooch again.
The tiara was reportedly later found damaged outside the museum because they fucking dropped something on their way out.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Okay.
So these are smart criminals. Some criminals steal art because you can't resell art.
Yeah. without it being known that it was stolen.

Speaker 3 Have you ever seen that documentary?

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 3 Okay,

Speaker 3 I'm fuzzy on the details, but you would love it now that we're talking about this.

Speaker 2 You know the name of it. I'm gonna look it up.

Speaker 3 Basically, this very sort of like quirky couple in Arizona, they like died in their house. And when they went into their house, they had so many like crazy antiques.

Speaker 3 Like it was, I can't even describe like what the house looked like, but inside the house rolled up was one of these like very famous paintings, like a Rembrandt or something that was stolen from a museum 20 years ago that had been missing all this time.

Speaker 3 So the thought process was that this couple like were the thieves and they literally, to your point, were just keeping this like 20, 30 million dollar painting, maybe even like a hundred million dollar painting, right?

Speaker 3 Like rolled up in their house with all these other crazy ass artifacts that they've had. Like your point is exactly right.
People steal, if they steal art, there is nothing that you can do.

Speaker 2 Nothing you can do with it unless you want to hang it in your house. Right.

Speaker 3 Or sell it on like the black market.

Speaker 2 Somebody's probably going to find it. No, you can't even sell it on the black market.

Speaker 3 It's always the black market. Like, how do you get access? Through AI?

Speaker 2 I know, definitely not through AI. I think the polar polar opposite.
I think, like, the black market is like burner phones and, like, you can't trace it

Speaker 2 all cash or like wired through Switzerland. Right.
Like, that's the black market. Right.
That's it.

Speaker 2 I don't think that a black market sale, unless somebody wanted to buy that painting, hang it in their home. But if it's reported.

Speaker 3 But then if you're cold in your home, yeah, people are going to come to your house and be like, hey, thief, what up?

Speaker 2 Yeah, you can't steal art. You can steal tiaras.
You can take out the stones. You can melt them down.
Catini melt down a stone? Probably not.

Speaker 3 No, but you could reset it.

Speaker 2 Reset it and sell the stone. Yeah.
Yeah, totally. I was thinking gold.
Right. That's why it's smart to steal gold.
Right. You melt down the gold.

Speaker 3 Gold is quite expensive these days. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Pumping gold. I don't know who's pumping gold.
Yeah. Somebody's pumping gold.

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Speaker 3 We do. Pumping gold.

Speaker 3 Just things you say. Oh, I love a story.
Okay, Nara and Lucky Blue Smith pose with three of their kids as their family makes their campaign debut for Skim's holiday. Did you see the picture?

Speaker 3 I don't know who that is. Yes, you do.
She like is that beautiful model food influencer who's like, I was feeling like chewing on gum today, so I made it from scratch at home.

Speaker 2 Oh, maybe I've seen her.

Speaker 3 You've totally seen her. The names are.
She's like, my kids wanted a homemade peanut butter and jelly sandwich. So like she literally took the peanuts from her garden and like mushed them up.

Speaker 3 Like everything is so homemade. No, I strive to be like that.

Speaker 2 Like I'm nowhere near that.

Speaker 3 But they're like, so they're models, but also she is a food influencer.

Speaker 3 Her stuff is so like calming and therapeutic, but at the same time, like so unrealistic because she literally does make gum from scratch. Gum.

Speaker 3 Or like, it's like my kids wanted a grilled cheese, but like she's literally making the cheese, you know, like everything is from scratch. Good for her.
Yeah, I think they live in Utah.

Speaker 3 Nara and Lucky Blue Smith's kids are making their camera. Lucky blue? Lucky blue.
He's a model. His name is Lucky Blue.
His name is Lucky Blue.

Speaker 2 His real name.

Speaker 3 Well, I mean, do I know what his birth is?

Speaker 2 Nara and Lucky Blue Smith.

Speaker 2 Yeah. We've lost the plot.

Speaker 3 Their kids actually have really cute names too. Oh, let me get there.
You'll love this.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God.

Speaker 3 On Thursday, November 6th, Jackie O's birthday. The influencer and her model husband, alongside three of their four kids, were announced as the stars for Skim's new holiday campaign.

Speaker 3 And in the festive photos, the famous couple could be seen cuddling up in the kitchen wearing Skim's pajamas. In the kitchen, of course.

Speaker 3 Other snaps show three of Nara and Lucky's kids, their older daughters, Rumble Honey, and Whimsy Lou.

Speaker 2 Whimsy Lou?

Speaker 3 As well as their son, Whimsy Lou Freeboard. As well as their son, Slim Easy.

Speaker 2 No, these are not their names, Liv.

Speaker 2 These are their names.

Speaker 2 Slim Easy?

Speaker 3 Slim Easy wearing matching Christmas emails.

Speaker 2 How old are these kids? What happens when they go to school?

Speaker 2 His name is Slim Easy. I don't know why you're like reacting as if it's not crazy.
Slim Easy is a name of a boy?

Speaker 3 I just think that people can name their kids whatever they want.

Speaker 2 Yeah, if they homeschool them and they never have to interact with the real world.

Speaker 3 Well, everybody has to interact with the real world at some point, even if you want to.

Speaker 2 Not if your name is Slim Easy. You're telling me he can apply for a job with the name Slim Easy Slim Express?

Speaker 3 I just feel like people that are named like Slim Easy, those are the people who are not.

Speaker 2 Are destined for crime?

Speaker 2 Are destined for crime.

Speaker 3 Why? Why crime?

Speaker 2 Because that's like the name of a gang member, Slim Easy. That's not, no, there's no famous person named Slim Easy.

Speaker 3 The baby that wasn't in the campaign, her name is Fawnee Golden.

Speaker 3 Listen, it's no Ruby software, okay?

Speaker 2 I don't even know what to do with these names. I don't even know what to do with these names.
I'm appalled.

Speaker 3 I'm surprised you weren't like so caught off guard by Rumble Honey.

Speaker 2 No, I was. But Slim Easy was real.
Rumble Honey's one name? I think they were. Or Rumble, Honey.
No, not Kama. No, I'm saying, like,

Speaker 2 is it Rumble Smith and Honey Smith or Rumble Honey Smith?

Speaker 3 It's Rumble Honey Smith. Oh, my God.

Speaker 3 It's Rumble Honey Smith.

Speaker 2 Like, Lizzie Lou Smith. People have known this.
Slim Easy Smith. People have known this.
Yes. Got it.

Speaker 2 How gracious they are. I'm probably just late.
I'm probably just late.

Speaker 3 You probably just didn't know their kids' names. It's not outrage.
It's creativity.

Speaker 2 Olivia.

Speaker 2 No. Like, this is not right.

Speaker 3 It's just,

Speaker 3 people are allowed to name their kids whatever they want.

Speaker 2 They're very creative. Okay.

Speaker 3 Lucky Blue, what did you expect Lucky Blue's kids' names to be?

Speaker 2 I can't believe his name is Lucky Blue.

Speaker 2 His name, by the way, sorry. His name is not Lucky Blue.
I bet you they all have real names, okay?

Speaker 2 What's the, what do you call, I know that we call it anglicizing when you take a Jewish name and you make it a non-Jewish name, like Jon Stewart was originally like John Manischewitz or something.

Speaker 2 Right. And now he's Jon Stewart.
Right. What do you call it when you just change your name in Hollywood, but you weren't Jewish? Is there a word for that?

Speaker 3 I think it's just called changing your name in Hollywood. Got it.

Speaker 3 But I do want to say that's Lucky Blue's real name. I just looked it up, and it looks like it's Lucky Blue.
On Wikipedia, there's no other real name.

Speaker 2 Of course, because they're burying it. They're smart.
Lucky Blue has a real name. It's probably like Dennis or something.

Speaker 3 Is Lucky Blues?

Speaker 3 Dennis.

Speaker 2 Right? Dennis Smith.

Speaker 3 Real name.

Speaker 2 Dennis Smith is a good name.

Speaker 3 Lucky Blue's real name is Lucky Blue Smith. And he is part, he is an American model actor and musician who is part of the band Atomics with his sisters Starley Piper America and Daisy Clementine.

Speaker 2 Okay so the parents started this. They like unique names.
No, I'm saying Daisy

Speaker 2 Lucky Blue's parents started this. Clementine, you know, another fun fact.

Speaker 3 Clementine is a very cute name. We love Daisy.
Shannon's baby's name Daisy. That's a lovely name.

Speaker 2 I'm actually not shocked that these are their names now that I'm thinking about it. You know that my parents almost named me Blue and my sister Magenta.

Speaker 3 Right, and then they didn't. They just used those letters.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 isn't that crazy i feel like imagine if my name was blue i like i actually think that's very cute i would have no career and i feel like actually maybe you'd have a bigger career back no i wouldn't and maybe maybe your sister would be like maggie instead of magenta terrible name maggie yuck i don't like that at all what names do you like normal names names for for people that had meaning i think we just do this in judaism i don't know if everybody does this i love naming for someone special Right.

Speaker 2 And nobody's name was Lucky Blue.

Speaker 3 Or if the name means something. Yeah.
You know, I love the meaning of names.

Speaker 2 Meaning of names. Yeah.
Does he have blue eyes?

Speaker 3 Totally.

Speaker 2 If he does, then he changed his name.

Speaker 3 But you know all babies.

Speaker 2 Because they couldn't have known. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 No, his eyes are incredibly blue, actually.

Speaker 2 Oh, so then he changed his name.

Speaker 3 That's him.

Speaker 2 Yep. They buried it.
They buried his real name away. I mean, I Google.

Speaker 3 How do you bury somebody's real name?

Speaker 2 I mean, you go to, I forget that guy's name. Felix.
He's the one. It's SEO.

Speaker 2 You can bury a name.

Speaker 3 Nobody will get that joke except me.

Speaker 2 You can bury a name. No, he's just like an SEO consultant.
You can bury anything you want. Okay? You can bury anything you want, including Lucky Blue's real name.

Speaker 3 You cannot fuck up your birth certificate. It is, it says you can change your name.
Legally, you can legally change your name. That's what he did.

Speaker 2 And then buried it. If his eyes were green, Olivia, and his name was Lucky Blue, I would believe that he was a good idea.
Why, he could just wear contacts.

Speaker 2 It's interesting.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 3 Or he could just go by lucky and drop the blue. Even worse.

Speaker 2 Lucky. It's a name of

Speaker 2 the lady tonight.

Speaker 3 That's the name of a dog. Lucky.
I mean, a lot of people use human names for their dogs, Theo.

Speaker 2 Yeah, by the way, an amazing name for a distinguished dead gentleman. Like, distinguished dead gentleman.

Speaker 3 He was great. Distinguished.
Right?

Speaker 2 So great. He was a great boy.
He really was. Rest in peace.
Romeo, though, has really come around.

Speaker 3 I mean, Romeo is so sweet and cute.

Speaker 2 No, but he really, like, he is killing it.

Speaker 3 I know, but, you know, all like, like, when dogs are puppies, like, they're really so, like, rambunctious, you know? 100%.

Speaker 2 And he just, like, in his formative years, I mean,

Speaker 2 that's no excuse for Radnolia.

Speaker 2 No, no, but I'm only, I love Magnolia.

Speaker 3 I just feel like there's been a lot of slander about Magnolia on this podcast, so I just felt the need to continue it, you know?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I will be on the opposite side. Uh, I will, I will defend Magnolia.

Speaker 3 I will defend her. Magnolia just has to stop barking, but she's so lovely, you know?

Speaker 2 She's a a lovely dog, and she's Margo's, and they have an intimate relationship.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 I think. Margo, don't watch today's episode.
No, you should. Absolutely should because I defended your honor.
That's all.

Speaker 3 Yeah, no, like, so sweet.

Speaker 2 Your honor has been defended, Margo.

Speaker 3 All right, last story. You ready? By the way, I'm having so much fun with you.

Speaker 2 Same, it's great.

Speaker 3 It's easy. Totally.
Maybe I could be a guest from Good Guy. Sure.

Speaker 2 What do we talk about? Anything you want. Anything you want.
No. No, I'm kidding.
We can talk about your garden and how you garden.

Speaker 3 Oh, my God. Totally.

Speaker 3 You're going to come see my garden today.

Speaker 2 I'm super excited. I need to see it.
I need you to teach me how to garden.

Speaker 3 Oh my God, 100%.

Speaker 2 Hire a farmer. That's right.

Speaker 2 I know.

Speaker 3 But you could probably have something like really cute in New York or on a terrace or balcony.

Speaker 2 My mom is actually an expert gardener. Oh, I mean,

Speaker 3 nothing less for me.

Speaker 2 Buy an expert gardener. I think she goes home, deep abuzz the powder, puts it in soil, and waters it.
That said, when I go over it.

Speaker 3 You know, we have to keep it alive.

Speaker 2 She keeps it alive. Yeah.
And when I go over, she's like, Ben, would you like some fresh cherry tomato?

Speaker 3 You would love it also because, like, even tonight, you'll see that I have my

Speaker 3 what's my herb box, right?

Speaker 3 So, like, if you just needed some parsley, we know you love parsley or some dill, like that's lovely, so fresh, like, you don't have to run to the store if you forgot something, you know?

Speaker 2 Absolutely lovely.

Speaker 3 We literally ate a papaya from my papaya tree that I planted in February, two nights ago. How was it? So sweet and delicious.

Speaker 2 That's so fun.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so fun. Levi literally ate the entire papaya and it was the size of your head.

Speaker 2 No, living off the land is really

Speaker 3 wonderful. It's really special.
It really is. I totally agree.
Okay, last story, which is, I'm seriously obsessed with this.

Speaker 3 Mom, mom, man goes viral after ordering 11 pounds of French butter for wife's push present. I saw this.
Wow.

Speaker 3 After welcoming their son James, Michael Vitali knew he wanted to gift his wife Madison a push present she'd never forget.

Speaker 3 The 35-year-old Hoboken, New Jersey dad spent some time debating what to get her, thinking about the things she loves, and then it hit him, French butter.

Speaker 3 I've always been obsessed with butter, specifically French butter, and knew I'd enjoy it, Madison tells people exclusively.

Speaker 3 After our honeymoon in France last year, where we ate a ton of bread and butter and and hamon hambon bure sandwiches like joey camasta hamon ham like joey camasta he knew i'd appreciate it i've also gotten into making sourdough over the past year yeah you go girl so we always have fresh bread at home he went all out ordering 11 pounds which is five kilos of butter from straight from normandy and it cost only 273.56 plus about 50 for other sandwich ingredients

Speaker 3 amazing gift the only thing i have to say about this is that i also like hope you got like another gift on the side. Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 What are you going to do with 11 pounds of butter? Well, first and foremost, Madison from Sister Snacking. Oh, yes, Sister Snacking.
Friends, and I'm pretty sure that they're fans of the toast.

Speaker 2 They're going to be excited that we're doing this. Love.
Love, love, love, love.

Speaker 2 And all that I have to say is, what do you do with 11 pounds of butter? Do you freeze it?

Speaker 3 You invite Ben over, you know?

Speaker 2 You invite Joe to come ask him over. Ben goes through a little butter.
Actually, Ben makes his own butter.

Speaker 3 Butter, like butter lasts a good amount of time in the freezer. I don't know if you're on butter, live.
I don't. Have you ever? No, but I would like to.
This is the easiest. It is really easy.

Speaker 2 It's an unbelievable experience. You buy heavy whipping cream and you fucking turn it on.
I know. And you're we're.

Speaker 3 You know, we're really more of a cream cheese family than we are a butter family, which is the only reason why I haven't, but I think it's amazing.

Speaker 2 You make your own butter, you put in your herbs, you make an herb butter for

Speaker 2 it.

Speaker 3 Fantastic.

Speaker 2 Fantastic. And you put it on your fresh sourdough bread.
I went to LA and I forgot about my sourdough starter. It's sitting in the fridge.
Do you think it's still good?

Speaker 3 100%. It will be good in the fridge for years.

Speaker 3 So it's still a lot. 100%.
Maybe like when you take it out, you just maybe have to feed it twice before you use it.

Speaker 3 It needs to come back to life a little bit, but leaving it in the fridge is totally normal and fine.

Speaker 2 Yeah, look, I went really hard into it.

Speaker 3 I loved your sourdough journey, by the way.

Speaker 2 I went really hard into it. I loved it.
It's a journey that I'm realizing one can only do when they're settled.

Speaker 3 Interesting. Yes, I agree with that.

Speaker 2 If you are moving, which like we went from the Hamptons to LA to... Florida to like...
Right. You're on the move.
We're on the move. Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 And you need to be in one place really settled to get into a routine of making bread. 100%.
Making bread, you're going to want to make bread every day. Right.
And making bread every day requires.

Speaker 3 It's also, it's about the timing. Like you sort of have to be like, not like necessarily sedentary in a place, but like it sort of has to like work with your schedule.

Speaker 2 It's sedentary. I mean, it takes the whole day.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it does. You get, and the more you do it, the sort of like sort of corner cutting you learn where you learn how to like maneuver.

Speaker 3 Do you really have to go back every hour and stretch and fold four times? I don't always. You know, like shit happens.
And guess what? It turns out totally fine.

Speaker 2 But you do need to let it rise. You do.

Speaker 3 Like, like that, you know what I've been doing actually? I did this last night. Right before I go to sleep at like 11 p.m., I mix my dough.

Speaker 3 And instead of like waiting and doing stretch and folds, I actually mix it in the mixer for like five minutes. So it builds up the gluten.
Interesting.

Speaker 3 And then I leave it on the counter till I'm up the next morning, seven, eight o'clock, and I put it right in the fridge. Got it.
And then I bake it.

Speaker 2 And you let it rise eight hours overnight. Overnight.
That's nice.

Speaker 3 So like, it's really not that time consuming, you know?

Speaker 2 No, that's a really smart way to do it.

Speaker 3 And I mix the, bake it at night, rise during the while you sleep yep wake up put it in the fridge and until it's ready to bake you could just bake it straight you could but i find it's it's a much better like when you bake from cold sometimes especially when it's been sitting out like that yeah because one it's easier to score and two it's sort of like I notice with sourdough, like what it needs to do is like it sort of needs to go through different journeys, you know?

Speaker 3 It can't just be like be like, and I've cooked a same day or baked a same day sourdough and it's turned out great, but I have like different methods.

Speaker 3 Like if I'm doing the overnight, I wouldn't do the same day i would put in the fridge for a little and then bake it i would bake it even like three hours later you know like not it it doesn't have to be like a three day ordeal but like you learn the biggest thing is also like what works for you in the temperature of your own home with your things so like for example claudia had gotten me this amazing kitchen aid stand mixer and that's what i use to mix my bread my bowl is metal and it makes my dough so cold and i live in florida where it's hot outside so like my situation is very different than somebody like you where maybe you don't have a metal bowl and you live in new york and the temperature is like 20 20 degrees cool.

Speaker 3 Do you know what I mean? Like everything, or maybe you keep your house a little,

Speaker 3 everything is so fluid.

Speaker 3 So that's why everybody's, you can obviously take inspiration from a lot of different sourdough folks, but at the same time, your sourdough journey is seriously going to be unique to you and the environment in which you live.

Speaker 3 It will.

Speaker 2 It will. Absolutely.
Yes. Well said.
What's your favorite thing to cook these days?

Speaker 3 Ooh, what a great question.

Speaker 3 Honestly, like, I just, I just love dinner time. Like, I just love making dinner for the family.
Like, it's seriously my favorite.

Speaker 3 I love that like we we grew up this way and it's like such an important part of our family, my family, like just dinner together every night. No, like and as many people at the table as possible.

Speaker 3 So like I just love like and my kids see like the heart and soul that I pour into the meal. Like I just love dinner.
Yeah, I do too. Dinner is everything to me.

Speaker 2 And I love cooking for people. I think we share that.
Like really it's like people come in and they're like, can I help? I'm like, get the fuck out of the kitchen.

Speaker 3 No, totally.

Speaker 2 Like I don't want your help.

Speaker 3 100%. Appreciate, appreciate the offer.

Speaker 2 100%.

Speaker 3 Especially because, especially when you you know what you're cooking and you have a certain thing in mind, it's like, then just get out and let me do my.

Speaker 2 It's also just like, at least for me, I really do take such attention to detail when it comes to everything. Like even my salads.
Every single ingredient is chopped the exact same size. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I like when my lettuce is stringy as opposed to thick. Yeah.
There's just like specifics in the way that I cook. Yeah.
And I want to eat what I cook. Yeah, 100%.

Speaker 2 That's why everybody's always like, oh, isn't it a lot cooking? Because

Speaker 2 during the summer, I'm literally the private chef for the house. Yeah.
I cook dinner for eight every night. I love it.
I love it because then I get to eat the meal that I want. Right.
100%.

Speaker 2 When somebody else cooks, I have to eat their meal. Right.
No, I totally got that.

Speaker 3 I absolutely like it. I do agree with that wholeheartedly.

Speaker 2 What do you think is the best thing that I've made?

Speaker 3 I mean, you make a lot of delicious things. I just feel like

Speaker 3 even the other day, like you made a salad and it was just like lettuce, tomato,

Speaker 3 red onion, parmesan. And I was like, ooh, Ben, did you like put a little lemon juice with salt? Like you just, you do have an attention to detail.
Like your food is always very fresh.

Speaker 3 You make delicious grilled chicken. You make delicious brisket.
The only things that I personally don't like that you make are like when I see how much mayo you're putting in stuff.

Speaker 3 Oh, and I'm just like, this is not for me.

Speaker 2 You're not, you're not a heavy mayo.

Speaker 3 You make amazing rice. Like you make delicious food, you know? Thank you.
It's just always like, and I believe that that is what the fundamentals of a good meal are. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Protein, starch, veg, salad, you know? And it's like, you just make one of each of those every night. And it's like, people, I think, are always so worried about like composing a dish.
Like,

Speaker 3 and it's like, cook a piece of chicken, make a sweet potato, steam a broccoli, make a bagged salad. And you got yourself, like, people are always like, how do you do these dinner?

Speaker 3 And like, I do so many shortcuts, but I like really believe in just sort of like elevating the basics. Yeah.
Where it's like, yeah, like, I have no problem. Like, just.

Speaker 3 like the lettuce is cut already. Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 Throw it in the bowl, make it look nice. Totally, but do not give me a piece of chicken and a string bean.
You need, you need need variety at a table.

Speaker 3 Yes. And you do that.

Speaker 2 I'm a big, you need a bunch of things to pull from.

Speaker 2 And most importantly, the biggest hack is fucking salt and pepper. Yeah.
Use salt and pepper.

Speaker 3 Garlic powder, onion powder. Yeah, use it on salad, Liv.

Speaker 2 Like, people don't do that. Salt and pepper on salad with lemon juice.
That's what took that salad from a mundane salad to a gravy. It was so delicious.
Salt and pepper. Like, use it.

Speaker 3 100%. You know, I love that.
I do agree. I also think the other thing, too, is, like,

Speaker 3 people are always like, wow, you cook like so much food.

Speaker 3 And it's like, i'm sorry like people are always coming in and out of my house i have a family to feed breakfast lunch and dinner like i love i don't mind having leftovers in my fridge for a day or two it's amazing having extra grilled chicken in the fridge it's amazing having sweet potatoes or rice like it's so great like it's almost like inadvertent meal prep it's like i of course i make way more food than the people that are sitting at the table 100 it's like one one job like you know what's what's the phrase but it's like build once run everywhere like that sort of thing you also have a husband that eats for three which is great like

Speaker 2 they're like there's four people here no there's actually seven like which which is great

Speaker 2 yeah so like no yeah it's that's also sorry another pet peeve yeah then sadly we're gonna have to run no i know it's so sad i know it's so fun but another pet peeve is if i'm coming over to your house and there's eight people and you made eight pieces of chicken no not okay that's not accountable you should never run out of anything i agree nothing i agree you can't run out of anything agree if you have leftovers no problem put them in the chicken and by the way if you're like in our house it's like it's eight people and then four kids like that's at least 12 pieces of chicken.

Speaker 3 At least even if the kids are not eating a full bread, but like you have to account for like every mouth.

Speaker 2 Especially with protein. Like if you're going to run out of side, okay.
Right. You can't run out of the main.
I agree. You cannot.
Totally. I should be able to eat as much as you can.

Speaker 3 I'm always actually like very much overdoing it. But like I 100%.

Speaker 3 By the way, before we wrap up, we have to do queenie and weenie. Yes.

Speaker 2 Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Who, who is your, okay, Queenie and Weenie of the Week? Yeah.
People that we love, people that we hate, or things that we love, things that we hate.

Speaker 3 Okay, my queenie, this is like such a lame answer, but I'm sorry. It's obviously going to be Jackie and Claudia.
I feel like we have to give them their props.

Speaker 3 Like, they gave us this platform to just like spew for the last hour. We've obviously had the best time, but they're just, they're so beautiful, stunning, and smart, and I love them so much.

Speaker 3 So they will always be my queens. They're my queens every week, you know?

Speaker 2 Yes, they are. They are.

Speaker 3 Would you have the same answer?

Speaker 2 I would have the same answer. I think we're going to share a queenie.
I was going to make it my wife, and I think I should also make it Jackie. Totally.
Totally. I love them.

Speaker 2 They kill it. And like they're

Speaker 3 so much.

Speaker 2 So like they have like such a huge platform and work so hard, but are also such dedicated moms. Totally.
Like people don't get to see that side of them. 100%.

Speaker 2 But they really are unbelievable moms, as are you.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but they also built an amazing community. Like whenever I like meet Toasters in the wild, it's always just like the best of humankind.
100%. You know? Everything they touch is just like

Speaker 2 fabulous. They're so unbelievably sweet.
I'll do my weenie. Okay.
My weenie is the fucking Tesla, okay?

Speaker 2 Look, I've already spoken at length about how the Tesla runs out of charge. You guys have heard that, whatever.

Speaker 2 I think there's a new setting where I now need to swipe up to go into drive and down to go into reverse. Yeah.
And let me tell you, we were fine with buttons, okay? We were fine with buttons.

Speaker 2 We were fine with keys. We were fine with keys.
I don't want to have to find my magic key card that then goes in a magic place on the side of the Tesla to open it.

Speaker 2 God forbid, I left my wallet somewhere. I can't even turn on my fucking car.
All of a sudden, I go to turn on the car. Liv, you can't turn on the car without putting your foot on the brake.

Speaker 2 You put your foot on the brake, you put a key in a specific place.

Speaker 3 This is is unbelievable i'm i am i am not a a tesla driver or owner um i'm team hyundai so i'm i buttons keys so here for all of that out

Speaker 2 out i love that and did you see they just i mean this is not really a i mean it is a story i'm not commenting if it's a weenie or queenie elon musk got approved for a trillion dollar buyout i saw oh my god what do you do with a trillion dollars i mean i don't know you buy a country or like more rocket ships and stuff i guess how much like do those things cost like a rocket ship i've i'm not even

Speaker 3 like actually maybe builds a

Speaker 2 community

Speaker 2 on Mars. 100 million? 100 million?

Speaker 3 100 million for a rocket ship?

Speaker 3 I mean, it sounds about right.

Speaker 2 I read some statistic that if you made $10,000 a day since the day that Jesus Christ was born, you still wouldn't have as much money as Elon Musk's current net worth.

Speaker 3 Wow.

Speaker 2 $10,000 a day? Yeah. Since Jesus.

Speaker 3 I wanted to, when was Jesus born?

Speaker 2 A long time ago, Liv. Don't ask me for specifics.
I don't know the answer. Something but we're Jewish.

Speaker 3 We got a pass.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 Who's my weenie? I don't really know. I mean, I guess it's those motherfuckers that robbed the Louvre and or the museum employee that made the password Louvre.
Like, totally. Fuck.

Speaker 2 Totally knocked.

Speaker 3 Like, just like the, the, some dumb aspects of society, generally speaking, would be weenie for me, maybe. 100%.
You know, like, get it together. It's kind of like what we were saying before.

Speaker 3 Like, we're so advanced and we're so behind. Get it to.
Figure it the fuck out. Like, that mentality is weenieism to me.

Speaker 2 Figure it the fuck out.

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Speaker 3 Totally. Follow Ben on social.
He's a celebrity chef.

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Speaker 3 It is. It's fantastic.
It's fantastic. I'm so proud of you, Ben.
You're just so wonderful. Thank you, darling.

Speaker 2 You are too. And folks, this episode has been unbelievable.
Give them five stars. Give us five stars.
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Speaker 3 I actually think that that was better than

Speaker 3 their out tour. That was fabulous.

Speaker 2 Wow, tell Claude. I will.
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