Turdy, BSC and Clarice: Monday, November 24th, 2025

Speaker 0 Good morning, girlies. It's the toast.

Speaker 1 It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know.

Speaker 1 We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast.

Speaker 1 I sound amazing.

Speaker 1 Welcome back to the toast and happy Monday. Today's a very special Monday because it's the Monday before Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 It is the one of two episodes we are releasing this week, just so you know, programming update. We are off starting Wednesday for Thanksgiving.
And I'm joined by someone I'm extremely thankful for.

Speaker 1 It's my husband. Hello, Ben.

Speaker 2 Hello, darling. I'm incredibly thankful for you as well.
All of our beautiful listeners invite.

Speaker 1 Our listeners, I mean, your listeners. Yeah, okay.
All right. Okay, relax.

Speaker 2 Okay, I was literally fixing it. Relax.

Speaker 1 Relax. I'm relaxed.
I'm so chill. Cool.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So thankful for all of you.
So thankful for this life that we have.

Speaker 1 Amen. Amen.

Speaker 2 For God above, ground below.

Speaker 1 God is good. This is in my heart.
Oh, please.

Speaker 1 Ben, it's perfect that you're here. One, because it's Thanksgiving.
The theme of today's, you know, and this week's co-hosts, family. Thanksgiving is a time for family.
It is.

Speaker 1 So it's only appropriate that you're here. Also, unbeknownst to me, I'm like promoting the good guy so much.
Josh was on Friday. You're here today.
But I really kind of did need you here.

Speaker 1 Because not only am I sitting down with like award-winning podcaster and chef, Ben Soffer, I'm also sitting down with the Weenie of the Week from last week. You are.

Speaker 1 Do you know why you were Weenie of the the Week? Did you watch?

Speaker 2 I did.

Speaker 2 It was

Speaker 2 incredibly rude.

Speaker 1 Although not inaccurate.

Speaker 2 No, not inaccurate. Okay.
Look,

Speaker 2 I made a Thanksgiving turkey. Now, let me tell you, not only did I make a turkey, I made a 20-pound gorgeous bird.
This bird was moist, yet the skin was crackly. This bird was a dream bird.

Speaker 2 And then, because we are no women.

Speaker 1 I'm like a bird. I want to fly away.

Speaker 1 I don't know who Emma is. Soul is.

Speaker 1 I don't know who Emma. Home is.
But baby, all I'll read for me for you is that I'm not afraid of a bird. I don't like a bird.
I want to fly away.

Speaker 2 It was so good. And let me tell you, because I don't waste.

Speaker 2 Okay. By the way, you loved it.
I have a video, by the way, of her saying that she loved it.

Speaker 1 It's changed. Okay, I liked it when it was just a turkey.
Yeah. But then it was a turkey that became turkey soup, turkey stock, turkey salad, turkey pot pie.

Speaker 2 Everybody's always asking, Ben, what do you do with the fidd? Do you just throw it away? No. No, I'm resourceful.
You don't throw it away? I'm resourceful. I basically compost.

Speaker 1 You don't throw it away?

Speaker 2 I have a compost.

Speaker 1 Did you not throw away like half a turkey pot pie today? No, not at all. I ate it.

Speaker 2 I ate it. By the way, this is literally the best freaking turkey pot pie literally ever.

Speaker 2 Follow that recipe. Yeah, I made a turkey into a turkey stock, into a turkey soup, into turkey salad.

Speaker 2 into a turkey pot pie the house smells um it no longer smells but romeo did really smell like turkey like that's really when i realized okay this is seeped into everything i picked up romeo to give him a kiss i'm like oh yeah

Speaker 2 you experience what i've been experiencing yes and here's the thing i don't like thanksgiving turkey i've gone on record saying it's incredibly overrated which is why i wanted to get it out of the way and then on thanksgiving we can just eat deli turkey did you hear josh say that like he makes a turkey but everybody eats steak like that's his ideal Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 I never heard of that.

Speaker 2 Is it he makes the turkey?

Speaker 1 No, it's like at his Thanksgiving dinners. It's like you do the turkey for like the festive reasons, but like there's also steak and everybody eats steak.

Speaker 2 You know, it just, it just makes sense.

Speaker 1 I like the roast chicken.

Speaker 2 Modernizing, modernizing the event.

Speaker 1 Well, today's episode is going to be extremely Thanksgiving-coded. Our stories are Thanksgiving-y.

Speaker 1 We're going to be talking a lot about food, but I also like kind of need to talk about something that happened to us this weekend.

Speaker 2 Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 So like Ben and I are always kind of, you know, sharing our interests with one another. We are.

Speaker 1 I shared my interests with him. That was Twilight.

Speaker 1 he watched all the movies and be honest you adored them i adored them also because you loved them oh stop i love that they you liked it you liked it only you were the same so when i was pregnant ben like forced me to watch all the harry potter movies

Speaker 2 like i want to like i want people to guess just go guess what i'm gonna like sing a little bit of it you know

Speaker 1 okay

Speaker 1 okay so when i was pregnant ben had been for years begging me like his favorite franchise is harry potter um and so he's begging me to watch it favorite but a very good one and i watched like four or five movies and i didn't dislike it at all i didn't need to see all of them like once you've seen one you've kind of seen them all i've saw five i've seen a lot he really liked it by the way i won't give credit to the fact that you watched 15 hours of harry potter you're like it was kind of good the first movie was insanely amazing yeah

Speaker 1 there was like one that wasn't my favorite that was like maybe the fifth and then you were just over no just after five is like how many times do i need to watch harry like do the same thing yeah no that's true actually the one that harry does this the one where they're like time travelers and they're like watching themselves run across that hill.

Speaker 1 I like that one. Yeah, pretty good.

Speaker 1 And he's always begging me to watch Batman. I refuse to give in to that one.
So good. But he

Speaker 1 did suggest on Saturday night that we watch.

Speaker 2 That wasn't great, but he went.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 I feel like

Speaker 1 I feel like you're not singing the pirates. I did the wrong thing.
I feel like you're singing like Game of Thrones.

Speaker 2 No, it just sounds similar. By the way, did Game of Thrones?

Speaker 1 It's an interpolation. It's an interpolation.

Speaker 1 But wait, I still think that's a good thing. You guys, we watched Pirates of the Caribbean, if that's not clear.
Oh.

Speaker 1 I've never seen it.

Speaker 2 It was so good when I was 11. It was so fine last night.

Speaker 1 So I know that it's like, you know, the franchise that launched Orlando Bloom's career. I know it's like Johnny Depp's biggest thing.
I know people are obsessed with it. Dr.
Jack Sparrow, Dr. Captain.

Speaker 1 And when Ben was trying to convince me to watch it, he was like, I think you'll really like it. He's like, it's like old and British.
Like, it's kind of like the crown.

Speaker 1 And I was like, it has elements of the crown. I thought it was like treasure hunters.
So I'm like, wait, it's the crown. And you know what?

Speaker 1 In the beginning of the movie, before the pirates show up and it's just like this. clearly like British territory in the Caribbean.
I'm like, you know what? And everybody's wearing like wigs and hats.

Speaker 1 It is kind of like the the crown. Thank you.

Speaker 1 But then once like the

Speaker 1 pirates from the Caribbean show up, like it's no longer like the crown. Let me tell you, it really was not good.

Speaker 2 You really liked it until you

Speaker 1 found out

Speaker 2 that the pirates never die.

Speaker 1 Well, so I was not like loving it.

Speaker 2 Did we have to spoiler all of that?

Speaker 1 Well, people on the internet are always like, you spoil it. I'm like, it came out 40 years ago, but okay.

Speaker 1 Now, I wasn't really liking the movie at any point, but it was like silly and fun and whatever. It was cool to see Kira Knightley being like so pretty.

Speaker 1 And then when like the magical realism entered, it's like, they're pirates, but also ghosts. Like that's really where they lost me.
It was just like a little, oh, and by the way, so confusing.

Speaker 1 The whole movie like did not need to be so confusing.

Speaker 2 Back on it. The pirate ghost thing was a bit unnecessary.
The curse of the black pearl.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But Will Turner, fantastic.

Speaker 2 Oh, and like Black Sparrow, fantastic.

Speaker 1 Orlando Gloom was like ugly in it. I just, I don't know, I wasn't, I wasn't dazzled by it.
It was also weird because Kiera Knightley is literally 17 when she films this movie.

Speaker 1 It's like so inappropriate.

Speaker 1 It was just weird. Like, and I don't know, I guess like Jack Sparrow is supposed to be this like, like when you were a kid.

Speaker 2 Hilarious and sick.

Speaker 1 Did you think Jack Sparrow was like the sickest?

Speaker 2 Yeah. And I literally told you I love that movie so much that I downloaded the theme song.

Speaker 1 So after

Speaker 1 After we watch a movie, Ben's like humming the theme song. I'm like, yeah, it's like catchy.
He's like, no, you don't understand. Like, I had it downloaded downloaded on my iPod.

Speaker 1 And like, I used to listen to it. I'm like, you would listen to an instrumental theme song? I'm like, doing what? He was like, like, playing basketball.
So I just, I'm like, I had so many questions.

Speaker 1 I'm like, so you're walking around, because Ben grew up in the city. So you're walking around the city.

Speaker 2 No, I was 100% at a gym.

Speaker 2 I have this like memory seared into my brain. I don't know how old I was.
I couldn't have been that old.

Speaker 1 Actually, maybe I could have. I don't know.

Speaker 2 I was listening to the instrumental theme song,

Speaker 2 shooting hoops, headphones in. Everybody probably thought that I was listening to like some like cool rap song or something.

Speaker 1 Drake. But you're listening to Caribbean.

Speaker 2 I'm listening to Pirates of the Caribbean.

Speaker 1 Okay, now here's the other question.

Speaker 2 Are you going to say Caribbean?

Speaker 1 Pirates of the Caribbean? Caribbean. Pirates of the Caribbean.

Speaker 2 It's not Caribbean. It's Caribbean.

Speaker 1 Okay, but if you're going on a trip to the Caribbean, I'm going to

Speaker 2 go to the Caribbean.

Speaker 1 I'm going to the Caribbean, but Pirates of the Caribbean.

Speaker 1 Makes you think.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 2 It can't be Pirates of the Caribbean.

Speaker 2 That doesn't work.

Speaker 1 Pirates of the Paris. Oh, are they on vacation? No, it's wrong.
No.

Speaker 2 It's wrong.

Speaker 1 It just wasn't good. Sorry.
Like, you lose. It's good.
And next up, next up, we have to watch something that I...

Speaker 2 It's that's literally all I do is watch something that you watch.

Speaker 2 Next up, that's literally just life. I distinctly remember that the second Pirates of the Caribbean.

Speaker 1 Caribbean. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I remember that the second Pirates of the Caribbean.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 oh my God, please don't get me started. Like with Harry Potter, you were like, wait, like the next one.
It's like true. No, but like, trust me.

Speaker 2 Real ones, no.

Speaker 1 It's the next one. It's like, well, if it's always the next one, like, maybe they're just all not.

Speaker 2 No, it's just the second. It's like, you love friends.
By the way, I watched so much friends for you, and now you admit that it's not even a friend.

Speaker 1 For me, Ben, you liked it too. Please.
I watched it for you. You liked it too.
All of it. You liked it too.
And like, it's fun and it's fresh and it's harmless.

Speaker 2 And when you watch like the first episode of Friends, you're like, this sucks. And then you get to like season two, and that's where they really find their footing.

Speaker 1 It sucks.

Speaker 2 That's with all great shows.

Speaker 1 It sucks.

Speaker 2 Great movies. Great.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 Captain Jack Sparrow.

Speaker 1 I just know like when you were like a kid, you thought he was like sad.

Speaker 2 Have you ever noticed that like I used to wear like a lot of like skull t-shirts?

Speaker 1 Oh my God. Yes.
I love pirates. Was that like your inspiration? I think so.
By the way, we had dinner at your parents' house over the weekend and your dad was wearing one of your skull shirts.

Speaker 2 My favorite thing is that clothing, look, we all fluctuate.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you and your dad really share it like a wardrobe because he's up, you're down, he's down, you're up.

Speaker 2 So I walked into the house and he's wearing this gorgeous skull John Varveda shirt. I loved it.
I hadn't seen it in a decade. Totally.
And that was so Jack Sparrow.

Speaker 1 Totally.

Speaker 1 So you're here to join me today. I will say the stories are extremely Thanksgiving coded.
Lots of food, lots of just like Thanksgiving fair.

Speaker 1 I just think we all need to acknowledge the space that we're in because I feel like always, like throughout different times of the year, we're all always like yearning. for the holiday season.

Speaker 1 It's the best time of year. We are.
We get time off of work. We're with our family.
We eat a lot. You know, holiday cheer, Christmas music.
And it's like about to begin. Like it begins now.

Speaker 1 And I just feel like

Speaker 1 in like two months we're gonna be yearning being like oh that was the best and it won't it will be like 10 months until we have it again so just in this moment everybody close your eyes look around acknowledge the space that you're in close your eyes and look around

Speaker 1 thanks this is me

Speaker 1 no you totally got me there close your eyes closing my eyes

Speaker 1 think

Speaker 1 and acknowledge the space that you're in. Okay.
Happy Thanksgiving week to all who celebrate.

Speaker 1 and don't forget to close your eyes and look around a thousand percent thousand percent that one was my bad okay i'll that was me um anything else you need to like say before we dive in no big beautiful week big beautiful week big beautiful bill

Speaker 1 so thankful to be here i forget if i said this on the toast but like i literally talk like trump yeah and so i find myself all the time being like big beautiful like nobody says beautiful more than me yeah but you actually i say gorgeous you overuse the word beautiful too it's like gorgeous you tell me i look beautiful i'm like but you also thought like the deli meat was beautiful.

Speaker 1 Totally. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You say bad that I know. You say gorgeous.

Speaker 2 You don't have to sexualize meat.

Speaker 1 You say gorgeous. Yeah, because you're gay.
You like sexualize meat. You do.
But you say gorgeous more than beautiful.

Speaker 2 I say gorgeous more than beautiful for sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you are.

Speaker 2 That is how I often describe food. Food.
Gorgeous. Yeah.
And I call you beautiful

Speaker 2 as well as a nice salami.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you also call your dad beautiful. He's beautiful.
I'm beautiful. That's literally what you always say when you pick up the phone.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I call beautiful things beautiful.

Speaker 1 You're just a lover of beauty.

Speaker 2 Isn't that just beautiful?

Speaker 1 It's gorgeous.

Speaker 2 It's gorgeous.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 Well, Ben, I have a question for you.

Speaker 1 What is it? My God, why'd you go quiet?

Speaker 2 You have a question. I have to say, what is it? I know what it is.
Oh, right.

Speaker 1 Are you ready?

Speaker 1 Are you going to do the thing? Why would I?

Speaker 1 Also, I saw you at Joey Camasa on your podcast on Friday. Like, you're copying me?

Speaker 2 I think that I had him. No, you definitely had him before, man.

Speaker 1 I had him twice. I love Joey.

Speaker 2 I know. He's great.
I know. He said that we should start some sort of a cooking series together.

Speaker 1 Oh, please. You're like the king of like starting series and never ending them.

Speaker 2 By the way, never ending them or never?

Speaker 1 Starting them, excuse me. I wish.

Speaker 2 I'll continue my turkey series then.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. No problem.
I ended it.

Speaker 1 That's not what I'm saying. I ended it.
Remember? Absolutely no problem. Like, remember poor Peter Lonzo? You made him film your Instagram series.
What are you doing?

Speaker 2 By the way, that was trial and error, and it led to a podcast.

Speaker 1 It did, it did. But he's such a good friend.
He really is. The fact that was like insanely nice of him.
I know.

Speaker 2 He's the best. Totally.
He also came to my Zoom birthday party.

Speaker 1 Oh my god. Peter Lonzo did come to your Zoom birthday party during COVID.
We had like exactly what it's like, a Zoom.

Speaker 2 He's literally the best friend.

Speaker 1 A Zoom birthday party. And he came.

Speaker 2 He also came to your Toast diversary.

Speaker 1 Oh, he's seriously the best guy. Just like I had to mention, yeah, we're friends with Petalonzo of Mets fame.
Ever heard of him? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Let me go into my calculator. I need to open up my timer app.
Ben, are you ready for the fast five

Speaker 1 stories?

Speaker 1 He didn't even finish it. No, that's what we say now.

Speaker 1 Why are you looking at me like that? You didn't defeat him. Okay, Ben.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 You done?

Speaker 2 Fine.

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Speaker 2 That was like literally like a weird set of ads. Like, they're me.

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Speaker 1 Okay, ready for our first story? Not Thanksgiving themed, but like huge news for annoying people like me.

Speaker 1 We have found out where Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey are getting married. Now, I think a lot of people knew it was going to be in Rhode Island where her big house is.
Never would have guessed.

Speaker 1 Because there was this like, okay, so I got like a bunch of DMs being like, you know, I'm giving you this exclusive. And it was so funny.
I saw like literally it was reported everywhere.

Speaker 1 But basically this girl claimed that she was getting married at

Speaker 1 Castle Hill or Ocean, one of those like really crazy Rhode Island hotels.

Speaker 1 I think it's where Olivia Koppel got married to Christian McCaffrey. And she said she had her date there in June.

Speaker 1 And the venue called her and was like, you know, somebody wants this date for the wedding. They're offering to pay for your whole wedding to get the date.
Holy crap.

Speaker 1 And everyone was like, well, it's obviously Taylor Shift. Oh, because the date was June 13th.
And she's like, Miss 13. So the story like went.

Speaker 2 We'll pause for a second. That is the dream.

Speaker 1 For the girl.

Speaker 2 For the girl who had that completely random date.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she just chose a date and like Taylor Shift won it.

Speaker 2 And all of a sudden, Taylor Shift wanted it. So she's paying for her entire wedding.

Speaker 1 Well, it was a rumor. Unclear if it was ever true.
It was like like this, but so everyone,

Speaker 1 everyone was saying that like this story. I don't know if the girl ever came forward, but it was like, did you hear about the girl? She got called by the hotel.

Speaker 1 And I'm now feeling like it might have been true, but I think everybody thought that Taylor was going to get married there, but it's clear she just wants her guests to stay there because she's getting married.

Speaker 2 She was buying at another girl's wedding just so other people, so other people wouldn't be there.

Speaker 1 Because it's, according to page six, Taylor Swift's Rhode Island house, which is right by that hotel, is going to be the venue. Wow.
Do you know that house? No. Okay.

Speaker 1 They picked out a home and called it holiday house.

Speaker 1 It's her Rhode Island house, which has been the scene of like so many iconic pop culture moments, so many pictures like that you would know happened at that house.

Speaker 2 Oh, that like beachy house.

Speaker 1 The beach house.

Speaker 1 It's huge.

Speaker 2 Like with like all those girls.

Speaker 1 Yes, exactly.

Speaker 1 The Dillavines and the Dilla Vines, yes.

Speaker 1 She also recently is like adding an extension to it. So it's like one of her favorite houses.
It's also one of her least.

Speaker 1 private houses because it's on a public beach and like there are so many pictures of it. So I find it shocking that that's where they're getting married.

Speaker 1 I'm sure they'll tent it and whatever and it's going to be sick but so they're getting married at the house it's a 17 million dollar well she bought it for 17 million dollars um i wonder what it's worth now um

Speaker 1 and apparently that's the venue and i'm thinking her people are staying at

Speaker 1 the hotel and that's what that story was about. This is the house, by the way, from an aerial view.
It's sick.

Speaker 2 That is a beautiful house.

Speaker 1 No, it's insane. And it's in this like really exclusive part of Rhode Island.
And do you know the song The Last Great American Dynasty? Yes. There goes the Last Great American Dynasty.

Speaker 1 It's about that house.

Speaker 1 So the person,

Speaker 1 you should actually listen to it.

Speaker 2 I've heard the song. I just said I'd listen to it.

Speaker 1 No, but like, listen.

Speaker 2 No, no. So you mean read?

Speaker 1 Yeah, read. Got it.
Do you think you could do that?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'll close my eyes first.

Speaker 1 Just close your eyes and read.

Speaker 1 You have all the money in the world, Ben. Where are you getting married?

Speaker 1 Honestly, such a sleigh. Like, you have all the money in the world.
You're getting married at your house because it's nicer than anywhere you can get married.

Speaker 2 Totally.

Speaker 1 Sleigh. And you just know she's looking like a build it the fuck out.
That

Speaker 2 Beverly Hills Hotel.

Speaker 1 Totally. Buying it out.
Like, yeah. Full buyout.
I feel like there's. Not a single person.
So now it's clear that it's going to be a huge wedding, right?

Speaker 1 And I feel like there are so many questions around Taylor. Like, is she still friends with X?

Speaker 1 There's so many theories, obviously, about Blake Lively, about Kelly Taylor, but even like old friends like Martha Hunt, like people. And I feel like this will be the definitive.

Speaker 1 thing because it's not a tiny wedding. You could say like, oh, well, Blake wasn't there, but it was only a 10-person wedding.
It's clearly going to be a banger.

Speaker 1 And Taylor went on Graham Norton and was like, no, no, no. Like, you're all invited.
like it's going to be huge she's

Speaker 1 i know

Speaker 1 i feel like if you're not there like that will be the official decree of whether taylor's friends with these people which i'm personally really excited about yeah me too i don't know like i i'm i don't know what's gonna like i feel like during the actual weekend i just feel like i'm gonna be so overwhelmed i feel like i'm just gonna need you like i'll be there no it's just gonna be insane go to rhode island my god like you and everybody else

Speaker 1 even though i have a hard time believing that like so in advance taylor's so crazy about like safety or whatever maybe this is not true it must not be true it can't be true it can't be people know now

Speaker 1 they have so many months to plan like I'm talking about getting a boat and going out there with binoculars right 10 months in advance and it's a public beach you just know that beach is gonna be insane yeah I don't think okay this is what the source told page six the source she's planning to create a new garden on site for the wedding.

Speaker 1 They were initially

Speaker 1 considering tying the knot in Italy, but her house gives them more options for upcoming nuptials.

Speaker 2 Oh, I guess they could have. They've had enough of people getting married in Italy.

Speaker 1 I agree.

Speaker 2 So like I said, you know how inconvenient it is for all of your guests.

Speaker 2 You don't think that they want it? I guess in like Taylor Swift's case, maybe she like charters like a 747 and like takes people

Speaker 2 there by herself. But like otherwise, you're making people pay to go to your wedding.
Let people pay for their own vacations.

Speaker 1 Well, Susie Weiss was on the podcast last week talking about like abolishing the bachelorette party, which is like a mission that she...

Speaker 2 Very bad call.

Speaker 1 No, but what she was saying is like, like you can't expect people to take more than one flight for your nuptials like if you if you have a travel wedding that's fine then you know but that clip went so viral like people were so mad i don't agree with abolish the bachelor party i do think that you should abolish the bachelor party after the age of 30 and i do think that we should really stop with these destination weddings well here let me just give you more what the what the Insider is telling page six.

Speaker 1 They're allegedly prepared to spend over a million dollars on the landscaping alone, including gardeners, experts, and added security to make sure the development stays hidden leading up to the big day.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because with drones, like, it's over. She reportedly wants...

Speaker 1 She reportedly wants red roses, hydrangeas, orchids, and peonies planted on the property months in advance, the insider said.

Speaker 1 She wants the entire celebration to feel like a wave of flowers with arrangements of white, purple, and pink orchids plus blue, white, and pink hydrangeas, and peonies in pink, white, and red tones.

Speaker 1 I just feel like the person...

Speaker 1 You know, when you're lying and like you give too much detail? Totally. It's like a red flag.
I just feel like now I believe nothing this source is saying. Totally.

Speaker 1 The singer also wants to gift all invited girlfriends a bouquet of red eternity roses, according to the source.

Speaker 2 What's a red eternity rose?

Speaker 1 Venus a fleur, like the roses that laughs.

Speaker 2 Venus LeFleur, like Peter Lefleur.

Speaker 1 Peter La Fleur. Taylor dreams of being fully surrounded by flowers with love.
Well, that I actually believe because that's exactly what their

Speaker 1 engagement looked like. I just feel like this person looked at the engagement photos and it's just like literally making stuff up.

Speaker 1 Totally.

Speaker 2 Like, it could be true.

Speaker 1 Well, this is just like, personally for me, this is my Super Bowl. Yeah.
And I'm really excited.

Speaker 1 Let me get a a little Thanksgiving news.

Speaker 1 The Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade.

Speaker 2 Love, except for when I go.

Speaker 1 The Macy's Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 2025. It's like a release.
She just snorted. Thanks.
I don't even know what that was. I wasn't even laughing.
A list of all the performers, the balloons, everything is here, okay?

Speaker 1 Over 3 million people gather in New York City to watch a spectacle and more than 31 million tuned in last year from the comfort of their own homes.

Speaker 1 It's a time-honored tradition with live performances, balloons, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 2 Here is who's going to be there. Okay, tell me.

Speaker 1 Cynthia Rivo

Speaker 1 is opening the festivities with the show-stopping opening number, which I'm shocked by. I hope she'll be like, use the Rockettes.

Speaker 1 Meanwhile, Buster Rhymes will be making his Macy's Thanksgiving Broadway debut. Huge.

Speaker 1 Performing the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Chocolate Factory float.

Speaker 2 Okay. Obviously,

Speaker 2 huge.

Speaker 1 Huge for the kids. Hunter S slash X K-pop demon hunters.
We're going up.

Speaker 1 Do you know that song?

Speaker 1 Shalama. Vinbana Hoda.

Speaker 1 Shalamba.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Shalamba.

Speaker 1 Other notable acts include Sierra, Mickey Guyton, Christopher Jackson, Jewel, Lil' John, Cole, and the gang. Like, honestly, nobody worth tuning in for, except Cynthia Rebo.
That's a huge get.

Speaker 2 Huge get. And let me tell you, having been there before, it is a made-for-TV spectacular.

Speaker 1 So we've been twice, right?

Speaker 1 I think we've been once. Okay, yeah, we went once.
Not me getting ahead of myself.

Speaker 2 We went once two years ago.

Speaker 1 No, last year.

Speaker 2 We went once last year.

Speaker 1 I was pregnant and I was so sick. It was 20.
Torrential rain.

Speaker 2 And it was downpouring.

Speaker 1 And we had probably like, I don't think you could get better seats for the Thanksgiving Day parade. Like

Speaker 1 we were right behind Hoda.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 the thing about the Thanksgiving Day parade is like it's best experience like from an aerial view.

Speaker 2 It's best experience from your own couch.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And like, honestly, I was so tired.
I was so pregnant. I wasn't even so pregnant.
I was like, first trimester, like, gonna throw up.

Speaker 2 There are just like certain things that are better on TV.

Speaker 1 The Macy's Day Parade, the football game, the Super Bowl halftime show. Any golf event.
Just like a fun fact about me is that I've been to the Super Bowl. You have.

Speaker 1 And it was Justin Timberlake's year, which like maybe I'm just a hater, but he had his back towards me the whole time and I couldn't hear because like the microphone's like literally not plugged into the speaker because it's plugged into the TV.

Speaker 1 It's made for TV.

Speaker 1 It's really like not. a good experience.
So if you're ever like watching and wishing you were there, like don't.

Speaker 2 It's really not.

Speaker 1 And you don't want to go to the ball drop watch it on tv that's a fun fact about me i actually prefer to watch most things on tv most things are made for tv nicks games sorry made for tv bad call bad call bad made for tv bad call bad call bad back bad call made for tv basketball is actually the definition of something that isn't made for tv remember when we went to the nba all starting and saw the killers and i showed my credential and we got thrown out not only did we see the thrillers killers We saw Fergie perform the national anthem, which I seriously don't talk about enough as like a pop culture.

Speaker 1 We were in the room looking at each other being like, does this sound weird? And it did. Yeah.
And we also got kicked out, but that was Ben's fault. Like big no-no.

Speaker 1 You know, what brand were we there with?

Speaker 2 NBA on TNT owes me an apology. I was literally just like an excited.

Speaker 2 An excited fan. I'm sorry that I posted my credential.

Speaker 1 Ben got this huge brand deal. I forgot how we were like pretty young.
It was our first time like going to

Speaker 1 the NBA All-Star game. It was in LA.
We were so excited. We got these insane credentials and Ben was just like excited.
So he took a picture of his credentials. I'm so excited.

Speaker 2 I felt like a Beverly Hillbelly. It was like one of my first times in LA in general.
I'm like, oh my God, this is like my big star moment. I get to work with the NBA.
Lifelong fan.

Speaker 2 I get to work with the NBA on TNT. The killers are performing in half time.
I get to interview all the players.

Speaker 1 All this stuff.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God. I can't wait to show all my followers that I have credentials.
It's so cool. Literally one minute later,

Speaker 2 deactivated. You are now sitting in section 300.
How the fuck could you show your credential? Yeah, we got

Speaker 1 so much trouble.

Speaker 1 It was an important lesson, though. You know, you can't take a picture of your credentials.
Who knew?

Speaker 2 I guess, but, like, I was just too excited.

Speaker 1 That's it, the the killers how good were they yeah we did see the killers live they had like an NBA and TNT like after show

Speaker 2 yeah it's a halftime show

Speaker 1 of what the NBA all-star game yeah I guess

Speaker 1 yeah it was we were outside I don't know but that was really cool yeah it was um and we saw Fergie oh by the way NBA on TNT lost their contract so sucks to suck oh so it's not NBA and TNT anymore no now it's NBC NBA and NBC yeah that's right and that's what they get karma 10 years later karma Who are you most excited to see at the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade?

Speaker 1 One thing about me is just one of the things that I'm talking about. I love City Area, though.
I love the parade.

Speaker 2 The parade is amazing. It's so fun to park in a parade.

Speaker 1 I literally wake up early. It reminds me of my childhood.

Speaker 1 I don't have to wake up early.

Speaker 1 We're up. We're literally up before the parade.
I'll blow up the floats. What? I'll blow up the floats.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry, Rose. I'll blow up the floats.
I'll blow up the floats.

Speaker 2 I'll go down and blow them up.

Speaker 1 I'll close my eyes and look around. I thought I was going to say it.

Speaker 1 No, we're seriously. I used to have to set an alarm, but now, yeah, we'll be up for like about an hour.
Six. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Zix. Why are you talking like that? Are you okay? So annoying.
Do you need your water?

Speaker 2 You're so annoying.

Speaker 1 You are.

Speaker 2 So annoying.

Speaker 1 You are. What are you doing?

Speaker 1 I know you are, but what am I?

Speaker 1 Remember that? Yeah. I know you are, but what am I?

Speaker 2 I know you are, but what am I?

Speaker 1 People get bullied growing up. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Really? I was mugged. You know, okay, that's not bullied.
I do know you

Speaker 1 by somebody.

Speaker 1 A girl.

Speaker 2 Okay, she was 6'3 and like from the wrong part of town.

Speaker 1 Okay, like this one. This isn't like a girl.
And it was a very girl. Got mugged.
First of all they're wearing yarmica. She was like an anti-Semitic mugger.
And she also was a girl.

Speaker 2 She was 6'3 and from the wrong part of town.

Speaker 1 Oh my God. Yeah.
I feel like we told the story of you getting mugged in high school, middle school? Middle school. I was 13.
I think we told it a while ago, but please say it again.

Speaker 2 I was 13. We were leaving our yeshiva.
We were wearing our yarmicas and and like matching like blue and blue. There was a dress coat.
It was like light blue shirts, dark blue pants.

Speaker 2 We're just like walking to the movies.

Speaker 1 Just beating yourselves.

Speaker 2 And like this like big ass girl and like

Speaker 2 her two friends approached and like, give me your money.

Speaker 1 And like, you'd love to see women in male-dominated fields.

Speaker 2 And like immediately I was like, okay. And like handed them literally everything.

Speaker 1 Your Velcro wallet. Like, what'd you give?

Speaker 2 I don't even remember. Everything, whatever I had.
I gave them everything. No, but I was thrilled about it.
I'm like, take it. Yeah.
Take it and run. Right.
My stupid friend was like, no. Oh, God.

Speaker 1 Got to be be a hero. Who was it?

Speaker 1 Do I know him? No, you don't.

Speaker 2 Okay. You don't know him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just want to talk to you about Ben. He's been mugged.

Speaker 2 I've been mugged. And that's how people who listen to the good guys know that I have developed a routine to make sure that I don't get mugged.
One, is a fake phone call. Two, if you see.

Speaker 1 But do you think that people who are on the phone who

Speaker 1 can't get mugged?

Speaker 2 Yes. It creates, we actually had recently on the Good Guys a CIA agent.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 And we spoke to him about this, and he said it's a really great tactic because it makes the mugger feel that they're no longer one-on-one yeah no I'm no longer as vulnerable yeah because I'm on the phone yeah and my thought was always oh oh yeah oh yeah hi police yeah I'm on the phone with the cops so why

Speaker 1 so you just happen to be on the phone with a cop

Speaker 1 how what a weird coincidence that the minute you get mugged you happen to be on the phone with the cops no it's normally like hi uh how are you oh good to see you yeah yeah I'll see you soon yeah or beeline for like a grocery store.

Speaker 1 Yeah, or like a building with a doorman. Yeah, that's good.
Living in New York City is so crazy, you guys.

Speaker 2 It is.

Speaker 2 Remember, I wanted to invent that app where you could see behind you.

Speaker 1 I loved that idea. You mean a camera?

Speaker 2 I was a little paranoid. Yeah, but it was connected to an app.
You like put something like literally like on the back of like a hat or on your head.

Speaker 2 There's literally a camera behind you so you can see behind you just in case somebody's coming up to shiv you.

Speaker 1 You've had a lot of bad ideas.

Speaker 2 That sounds like pretty decent. It's funny.
The other idea? I shared the other idea with you. You flush the toilet all of a sudden, Febreze.

Speaker 1 Genius. Yeah, I think it actually exists.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 And if any motherfuckers make it, okay? And don't credit me. I'm going to do nothing about it.

Speaker 1 Who wants credit? We want money. Totally.

Speaker 1 I would take credit. Are you ready for our next story? I am.
It's about your favorite girl, Amanda Bynes. Love her.

Speaker 1 So she has actually addressed the insane rumor that I have heard for years, which is that the. Did you start it? No.

Speaker 1 Which is that the disgraced Nickelodeon producer Dan Schneider impregnated her when she was 13. So she denied the wild rumor.

Speaker 1 The alum told, the Amanda Show alum told TMZ that the viral video of her claiming Schneider impregnated her is digitally altered. Oh, I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 I just thought it was just a crazy thing she was saying amidst some sort of psychotic break.

Speaker 1 So Bynes, who's now 39, told the outlet that whoever made the edited clip attempted to make up lies for clickbait. Oh, that's terrible.
I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 A fan account posted the now deleted video, which showed a clip of former Nickelodeon star sitting alone at a restaurant.

Speaker 1 At the bottom of the clip was the text, the man I got pregnant with him at the age of 13.

Speaker 1 The video then cut to a scene of the Amanda show in which a bikini clad teenage Bynes was in a hot tub with Dan Schneider, who was fully clothed.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, just the fact that this is not true, thank God, doesn't mean he's not weird. Like, you will just not convince me.
People will creep, obviously. You will not convince me.

Speaker 1 Even all those things that like, like, haven't aged. Well, like, why is he in a hot tub with a little girl? It was weird.

Speaker 2 It was very strange.

Speaker 2 But yeah, honestly, it's only, this stuff is only going to get worse with AI.

Speaker 1 I know. And I say this all the time on the toast because I'm like an extremely tech savvy person and I'm like very media literate.
I'm very internet literate. You can tell the difference.

Speaker 1 I am always getting hoodwinked. Me too.
Think of the old like geriatric person who's just like scroll and it's really bad on Facebook.

Speaker 1 I feel like, I feel like where AI is the worst are also platforms geared more towards old people because like it's really bad on Facebook.

Speaker 1 I see so much fake fucking news and Facebook is like for old people. They're really getting like it's it's a vulnerable community.
It's really scary.

Speaker 2 Did you see the cameo lawsuit?

Speaker 1 No. Where they are.
Cameo the app?

Speaker 2 Cameo the app.

Speaker 1 He's getting sued or suing.

Speaker 2 He's suing. I think they actually just won the suit against AI, against open AI for letting people, like you can write in, like,

Speaker 2 make Kevin Hart say happy birthday to my friend Clarice. And that's their whole business.

Speaker 1 Clarice? Yeah, Clarice. Why Clarice?

Speaker 2 I don't know, my friend Clarice.

Speaker 1 Is Clarice even a name? I think so.

Speaker 2 I don't think it is. Okay, can we get to the point?

Speaker 1 No, by the way, now you teaching me something. I didn't know about that cameo lawsuit.
So what were they suing for?

Speaker 1 Like, like that's

Speaker 2 a couple of things. One, that's their business model.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but people are allowed to copy your business model.

Speaker 2 Two, they didn't get any of the talent's consent.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, Kevin Hart can sue.

Speaker 2 I guess maybe Cameo sued on behalf of all of the people on Cameo.

Speaker 1 Interesting.

Speaker 2 And also protected their own business. I'm actually not sure.

Speaker 1 I feel like you're making this up. No, I didn't.
I'm going to Google it. Cameo AI lawsuit.

Speaker 2 Let's see. Did I make it up?

Speaker 1 No, they do have a lawsuit against AI.

Speaker 2 Open AI.

Speaker 1 A judge has temporarily blocked OpenAI from using the Cameo name.

Speaker 1 So OpenAI.

Speaker 2 People were making actual fake cameo.

Speaker 1 So OpenAI has been sued for trademark infringement

Speaker 1 over the App Sora. They have a Cameo feature.

Speaker 1 So the maker of celebrity video platform Cameo sued OpenAI in California court, arguing that the cat

Speaker 1 it's the same, opening that the cameo feature on OpenAI's Sora video generation app violates its trademark. Got it.
Because I guess Cameo has celebrities.

Speaker 1 And good for Cameo because while they didn't invent the word Cameo, they're kind of they gave it a new meaning, which means like a celebrity shout out video. Oh, that's interesting.

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Speaker 1 Normally wouldn't choose because I know you don't really watch, but one of, this is kind of a big deal. Jen Shaw is getting out of prison.
She has like a release date.

Speaker 1 She will be reunited with her family for the holidays, which is so crazy because I feel like she just went to to jail and they're always like shortening her sentence.

Speaker 1 And I feel like her date has been moving up. But is it just me or did she not go to prison for a very long time?

Speaker 1 Now, I know it probably felt like a long time to her, but to me, it doesn't feel that long.

Speaker 2 I feel like it's been a couple of years.

Speaker 1 So she will be released from the federal prison camp in Bryan, Texas on December 10th.

Speaker 1 Housewife, who I remember, was defrauding. No, she had like a company, like, you know, those calls that you get, like, your loan is

Speaker 1 due, and you don't even have a loan.

Speaker 1 She was like running this major scam.

Speaker 1 on she did one of those, yeah, but as it was a scam that targeted the elderly and disabled communities really awful disabled, yes, she actually, I only just heard this now.

Speaker 1 I don't know if it's true, but that she like stole a hundred thousand dollars in like a pension from a World War II veteran who ended up killing himself. Like, I like it's we all joke about Chen Shaw.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't play around. I think she's fucking disgusting.
And people are like, get the cameras up. Don't.
Like, please don't.

Speaker 1 If that's really what Bravo is going to do, like, that's, I'm sorry, you shouldn't be able to do something

Speaker 1 so egregious and then continue to be like a beloved housewife or all of the money that you make should go back to that person's family it's not just one person man it was like this insane ring

Speaker 1 i know and like i feel like bravo teeters with like you know crime a lot there have been a couple housewives teresa judice went to jail um

Speaker 1 and i'm curious how they'll handle this because this is so different in my opinion like like teresa judice going to jail is very different well right teresa went to jail because her husband made her like sign paperwork she had no idea what she was doing and they did steal from the government.

Speaker 1 Like, sorry, I don't care.

Speaker 1 Tom Girardi, Erica Jane's husband. Yeah.
Also stole from the government, right? No, big lawyer. Aaron Brockovich.

Speaker 1 Did we watch Aaron Brockovich together? The movie about the drinking water with Julia Roberts. Oh, yeah, we did.
He's the lawyer in that. He's like one of the most famous

Speaker 1 attorneys. Yeah, but it's not like...

Speaker 1 No, but like when you get a settlement, like what kind of law is that?

Speaker 1 Personal injury. Personal injury.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like billions in personal injury and he like literally stole settlement money from people like orphans and widows whose families died in like a big um airline crash

Speaker 1 really bad and he is like still on trial and but he has alzheimer's and he's like he's not on the show but the thing is it wasn't her so there's never been something like this and i'm actually really curious to see if bravo fucks with her i actually think someone asked andy at bravo con and he like was like great no like we're not fucking and i really hope that that's what they do i'll be like actually not to take like a moral high ground and be like, you know, boring, but

Speaker 1 like, I'll actually like be judgy if they do that. Like, I'm sorry.
That's, she's horrible. Terrible.
I didn't know that. So she's been serving time since 2023.
That's insane.

Speaker 1 She went to jail for two years. Not even because it's December.
She's getting out. Like almost two years.

Speaker 1 She considers the timing a gift that she doesn't take for granted because she's going to be home before the holidays. There's a couple of paparazzi pictures.

Speaker 1 And I guess it was like, she's at the same prison as Elizabeth Holmes,

Speaker 1 the blood lady. lady.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 She's going to be home for Christmas.

Speaker 1 Similar, like, no, like genetics, something. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Everyone's really grateful to the FBI, FB, Federal Bureau of Prison decision, especially because it means Jen will be able to reunite with her family. Shaw, Coach Shaw, that's her husband,

Speaker 1 said in a statement. I just like, seriously, like, I just.

Speaker 2 Nasty.

Speaker 1 It's really bad.

Speaker 2 Why, like, and why would she be able to spend time with her family? Like, why wouldn't they do it like right after? Like, why are they being so nice?

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, I don't know. She was supposed to be eight years and then it was six and then it was three.
And I guess now it's literally not even two.

Speaker 2 Maybe they didn't like have what they thought they had on her, you know?

Speaker 1 It's just crazy.

Speaker 1 And I know every time we talk about like celebrities who go to jail, I always bring up the Christleys because if they hadn't gotten pardoned, by the way, they were going to jail for the rest of their lives separately.

Speaker 1 And they have young kids.

Speaker 1 They like took out some fraudulent loans from a bank. Like not good, but they claimed that they didn't do it.
But even if they did, like, they still form a bank.

Speaker 1 Like, they didn't hurt anyone, which I know it's bad.

Speaker 1 But like, sorry, crimes are different crimes are different and they got such a harsh penalty now i know it's different states and i know it's different rules but i always compare them because they were getting like more time than like rapists do in new york so i'm always comparing to them and like what jen shaw did was way worse and they served like a couple of years but they still each had like 14 years left on their pardoning is so interesting i know like how does trump even know the christleys well that's why like I think Savannah, the daughter, who's like a podcaster and reality star,

Speaker 1 became like very vocal and, you know, took on her champion

Speaker 1 and made it to the White House. That happens a lot.
And that's why like when Kim championed someone, she got Alice Marie Johnson out of prison.

Speaker 1 She championed like having like a high-level champion on the outside. It's huge.

Speaker 2 It doesn't just happen by accident. They're knocking down doors.

Speaker 1 No, there are high-profile cases that like, you know, sometimes go viral or sometimes like there people have like a celebrity who champions them.

Speaker 1 It ain't easy to get a pardon. Let me tell you that.

Speaker 2 I would assume not.

Speaker 1 Our fifth and final story was chosen exactly for you.

Speaker 1 And I i just feel like this is only the type of story that gets brought up when you're here heinz has debuted a new condiment it's a leftover comment condiment and it's actually inspired by friends so the moist maker okay so heinz is giving thanksgiving leftovers the stark treatment while paying homage to a classic sitcom the food company released a squeezable bottle of leftover gravy that is the condiment um it's designed to get in trouble again it's designed to turn the post-feast sandwich into a simple crave-worthy creation so the first ever squeezable bottle of Heinz's homestyle turkey gravy is made for the day after Thanksgiving when leftover turkey, stuffing, and cranberry sauce come together in a gravy-soaked sandwich, famously known on friends as the Moist Maker.

Speaker 1 The Moist Maker originated on the December 10th, 1998 episode called The One with Ross's sandwich, when David Schwimmer's character had a meltdown after his co-worker stole his carefully crafted leftover sandwich from the office refrigerator.

Speaker 1 The sandwich's signature feature was a middle slice of bread soaked in gravy, keeping the turkey and the stuffing from drying out.

Speaker 1 It has since become an iconic pop culture reference among fans, and Heinz is now bringing that legendary leftover sandwich to life with a modern twist. You threw my sandwich away.

Speaker 1 My sandwich. What do you make of this? Gravy in a bottle is tart.
Let me say that.

Speaker 2 So first and foremost, we love Kraft Heinz. Love.
Okay, shout out Kraft Heinz. We collabed with them on pickle, Claws and Pickle.

Speaker 1 You're going to say something negative.

Speaker 2 No, no, because I've already, they just did this with the mac and cheese that tasted like applesauce or whatever the hell they did last week.

Speaker 1 And shout out, Kraft actually sent us that. It was apple pie mac and cheese or something.

Speaker 2 Yes, we haven't had a cheese to try it. I'm sure it was great, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
Look,

Speaker 2 they're doing an amazing job on the marketing side. Okay.
Two times they've done products that the toast has spoken about.

Speaker 1 Yeah, sometimes. Because they're so creative.
With things like this, it's not really about selling bottles. It's about

Speaker 1 viral. Like when they did the Van Lewin Kraft mac and cheese ice cream.
100%. Yeah.
It's like skitshi.

Speaker 2 This sounds, I guess I'll try it because I I will try just about any kind of sauce once, but the idea of squeezable turkey gravy, like what is there real turkey in there?

Speaker 1 Okay, but yeah, that's my other thing. Most of Kraft Heinz products are shelf-stable.

Speaker 2 This can't be.

Speaker 1 So what is gravy normally made of?

Speaker 2 Turkey. It's like turkey drippings.

Speaker 1 What do you mean, like drippings?

Speaker 2 Like juice? You make a turkey.

Speaker 2 And then everything that falls to the bottom, you can use that to make gravy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but isn't gravy. And there's sometimes creamy.
Yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 And then there's, they like, they zhuzh it up.

Speaker 1 Yucky.

Speaker 2 So what is this, like turkey flavored?

Speaker 1 I mean, it must be. I don't know what the ingredients are, but I'm afraid.

Speaker 1 It's also just shout out. It's a collab with Walmart as well.
It's only available at walmart.com.

Speaker 1 Yucky. It's made with real turkey broth.

Speaker 1 You know? Delivers a rich, smooth, homemade taste perk for the holiday feast and elevating sandwiches that come after. You know what?

Speaker 2 I'm going to give it a try. Because it's made with real turkey broth.

Speaker 1 Well, you can't have it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 i'll break it for you they should absolutely have done some sort of partnership with anyone from friends like anyone that they could have they probably paid enough it would have cost them so much money

Speaker 1 so true they're great jennifer adison's on every commercial like i know craft is the biggest company in the world jennifer andison's always doing they could have gotten david schwimmer i feel like there was a time where david swimmer like would not leave his house who's the cheapest member of friends like who needs the money the most i think joey

Speaker 1 Definitely Joey.

Speaker 2 Yeah. You could have gotten Joey for a nickel.

Speaker 1 You know what's so crazy? What?

Speaker 1 That after Friends ended, Joey got a spin-off called Joey. Did you know that? Nope.
It was, I think maybe one season. It was like not popular, but it's just so interesting.

Speaker 1 Was it made by the same people?

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 And it was like a sitcom.

Speaker 1 Really? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that.
And it's just so crazy that.

Speaker 2 Like, he got that?

Speaker 1 Of all the characters when the show ended, like, that's what they thought people wanted.

Speaker 2 Especially when you watch it back and the writing for Joey was so unbelievably stupid. Yeah.
All of his jokes were so lowbrow.

Speaker 1 Agreed. And it's crazy that the same person who like wrote those jokes also wrote like the Ross stuff because Ross is like a very controversial.

Speaker 2 Ross is a great character.

Speaker 1 Ross is the best character and Phoebe. And Phoebe.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But like the same person who created them.

Speaker 2 But it probably wasn't the same writer.

Speaker 1 But the same creator. The same creator.

Speaker 2 No. The creator created the characters.
The writers wrote the jokes. I couldn't do that.
But also

Speaker 1 the actors.

Speaker 1 The actors also did stuff for themselves. Like created their characters.

Speaker 1 Actually, and this is the second thing I remember I'm talking so much about Matthew Perry's book, but he talks a lot about how like committed they all were to like creating their character.

Speaker 2 Chandler was amazing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, none of them got a spin off.

Speaker 2 Honestly, all of the characters in that show were amazing, except for Joey.

Speaker 1 I totally agree. Why Craft Friends you probably could have gotten broken off between us?

Speaker 1 Rachel was a little annoying.

Speaker 2 You know, I go back and forth. I think that as annoying as Rachel may have been, Monica also was annoying.

Speaker 1 So, I want to ask you: which friends character do you think you are? And which one do you think I am?

Speaker 2 I definitely am a bit of a Ross.

Speaker 1 You wish. You don't think so? Me

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'll take Chandler. But the funny thing is, is that, like, unfortunately, the ad exec that fluctuates weight.

Speaker 1 Right. I am Monica, which makes sense because we're.
Yeah, you are. Like, I'm like a nut job.
The episode where, like, they don't.

Speaker 2 But you don't think I'm Ross with like my love of dinosaurs?

Speaker 1 Like, literally, not at all.

Speaker 1 And I, like, I hate.

Speaker 2 I'm a thousand percent Monica.

Speaker 1 I know the episode where like they refuse to play board games with her because she's so mean.

Speaker 2 Like, you. Me.

Speaker 1 And the cleaning. Yeah.
It's you. And the thing is, I hate Monica.
So do I hate myself? Wow. That's deep.
I know. That's steep.
But at least Chandler and Monica end up together. That's us.

Speaker 1 We're meant to be. TG.
CG.

Speaker 1 Now, do me a favor. Tell me.
Close your eyes and look around.

Speaker 1 You made it to the end of the episode. Excellent.
And you crushed it.

Speaker 2 This was a fantastic episode. A Thanksgiving fiesta.

Speaker 1 We're coming, like, sort of. Nearing the end of Jackie's maternity leave and like just the end of the show for the year.
So I feel like you'll probably come on one more time. Sure.
What if you don't?

Speaker 2 If I don't, then

Speaker 1 bon nuis.

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Speaker 1 I'll see you tomorrow for a final episode of the week. And if I don't see you then, have an amazing Thanksgiving.
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