Taboo Sideline Conduct, Memorable Sports Conspiracies & Nick Swisher Previews the 2024 World Series!

I can't think of two better people to help me with this situation. My three-and-a-half-year-old son, he has done everything lefty so far.
Like, he just naturally likes to swing, whether it's golf clubs. So I'm buying him lefty golf clubs, bought him a lefty glove.
Just the other day, he picks up a ball with the right hand and throws me an absolute dart bullet on a string. The throwing arm, way better right-handed, hitting lefty.
And Scooter,

he scoots on his push-off foot is his left foot. What am I dealing with here? I am so confused

by what this kid is. Any advice? That's fairly common, Jerry.
Don't worry.

Can I also just point out the most obvious thing? He's three, bro.

That's a good point. That's a good point.
That's a good point. All right, here we go.
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It's because you're nervous about the Yankees, bro. Let's go.
At Throwback Show. I can't speak today because the Yankees are in the World Series for the first time.
Or you're still flustered about your Knicks opening loss. I don't know.
It's one of those things. Nah, those...
All right. We're jumping in.
Those are the easiest losses to recover from, right? Getting blown out by 25? It's over by halftime. Like, pack it in.
Wasn't our day. Let's just move on.
We got 81 more games to figure this out. I'm not worried at all.
I cannot wait. I can't believe I'm saying this.
I cannot wait to go on this roller coaster ride with you during the NBA season. It is a roller coaster, man.
I love hoops. I love hoops.
I love sports. I love watching.
And I think I tweeted out. It's like, I'm finding myself on a 430 in the afternoon in LA.
By the way, I texted you. I was like, my wife is out of town.
My mother-in-law took the kids out. My dogs are somewhere.
I'm laying in bed before I had to do something. And I'm turning on a Knicks Celtics game.
I sent you a photo. I'm like, what is my life now? This is going to be my life now for the next five months, six months.
Now that you become friends with me, that is your life. But I will also say if I'm able to get us to the Garden and sit courtside, it'll mean that much more to you now that you did a little research and you've watched a little bit of Knicks action.
Dude, by the way, I'm sitting courtside with you. I will fly off to New York for that.
Are you kidding me? MSG. I went.
I told you this. I took Cole to Knicks.
was a random game i was in oh it was in new york i think i think it's for the heisman years and years ago oh that little thing oh the little heisman thing and i had yeah it was for that and i took cole and we were sitting first row right behind the nicks bench yeah i think it was yeah it was it was awesome it was really cool i was talking to some of the trainers and the guys i think it was like an sc guy there that was one of the trainers at the time. It was cool, man.
It was first time ever in MSG. So I was like, I'd love to go back.
Well, it's an amazing time of year. We got basketball.
Everyone's got one game in. Obviously, we know the World Series starting off Friday.
I know you, I believe in signs and this show is still relatively new. But you being a Dodger fan and me being a Yankees fan, six or seven episodes into this podcast and they're meeting in the World Series, I feel like it's a good time.
Respect to you, because today joining us, we have a New York Yankee from the last time they won the World Series in 2009. Nick Swisher, same birthday as me, Nick Swisher is going to be joining us later to preview a little World Series, talk his awesome home run derby x that he does which is like their version of big three or seven on seven football it's really cool project too but if you know swisher meaning he publicly you know his personality if you're a baseball fan one of the best personalities of all time in baseball so he's a he's gonna be a great he he i i worked with him at Fox cause he was covering, covering baseball Fox for the years.
And we just hit it off and you know, him and his, his love for life, baseball, like he's just hilarious. He's a great dude.
Um, I'm so pumped and it's, it's going to be fun, man. It's going to be fun to listen and talk to about Yankees.
And by the way, first of all, I respect the Yankees. Grew up Yankee, Dodger fan, but it's like Yankees are Yankees.
Jeter, and I'm excited to hear Swish talk about some of those guys because he was a part of that epic team. So this one, we'll have to get a little better, something.
And like you said, when we started this show, our worlds collided, but didn't collide back in the day in the 2000s when I was at SC and you were on Entourage. And now our squads, dude, are playing in the first world.
Like this is, I'm telling you, man. It's a good sign.
You're my brother from another mother, buddy. So starting game one.
well maybe you could help me out because this is now three weeks in a row that I got my Twitter fingers going. And it's getting reactions.
And I swear to everybody. That's nobody's fault but your own, by the way.
But I'm not doing this on purpose. I'm just asking questions or just putting out a point or a contrary point.
So look, Bill Simmons last week, and I listened to Simmons basketball for me with Simmons. Like I just enjoy listening to him talk basketball.
But, and look, he's a Red Sox guy. Hates the Yankees.
I get it. Sports hate is fun too to watch a team, to watch a World Series just hating on one team.
I get it. But he started doing the whole commenting on, oh, well, the Yankees rode.
They beat the Guardians, and they beat the Royals.

Ho-hum.

I just think that's not a real thing.

And you played and won a championship.

Did anybody question the USC route and path to get there

and try to demean what you accomplished?

Because I just think that means you're not

watching because nothing about the Guardians struck me as easy.

Yeah, I'm sorry the Astros weren't there.

They got smacked by the Titans.

It's just a – it's lazy.

I think you said it.

It's lazy.

Football's different.

I think when I look back at our title run, like we had a couple games where we could have lost against shitty teams and we found a way to win. Um, but the year we won Oh four, we beat Oklahoma who was number two in the car.
So it was one versus two. So like we, we proved it.
I look, I think you could, you could like the Celtics run last year. Like you could, you could pinpoint, Oh, what was it? Um, thank you about the Celtics run.
Was it the warriors when they went on a run and they didn't have to play somebody like like you you run into teams if they're missing like it just happens it's sports it's the laziest take in the world because it is so hard to to reach the pinnacle of your sport no matter what it is whether it's a super bowl um gosh what we went to we went to a super bowl in 08 for the cardinals we were a wild wild card team. We were shit.
We were shit going in. Yeah, we were 8-8.
And no one expected us to win the first round. No one expected us to win the NFC Championship.
Stuff happens. We were not the better team, but stuff happens.
So the point is, is like, come on, dude. Come on, dude.
I agree. We agree on this take.
We agree on this take. we agree i like it well because also i was at the

stadium in cleveland for game four and i've been to a lot of games i've been to a few yankees alds

games like first the twins stuff like that and i've been to a knicks playoff game by far the

most stressed out i've ever been sitting in a live sporting event was being the road fan in a playoff

baseball game the only time ever matt i didn't get up to pee i didn't drink water or be i didn't

Thank you. event was being the road fan in a playoff baseball game the only time ever matt i didn't get up to pee i didn't drink water or be i i didn't eat i did not consume one i was hoodie up locked onto every moment during the commercial breaks i actually took deep breath so you have a yankees you wear a yankees hat or you i didn't i I don't listen.
I don't like going to the,

being the road fan,

rocking all my stuff.

I don't hate on people who do,

but also like,

I just don't want to get trolled.

If someone happens to be an entourage fan,

see the Yankee hat and then start yelling turtle and insulting my whole acting career.

I just don't need it. Like I could,

I could still enjoy the game without rocking my team colors.

I swear,

you give me so much stress listening to you talk about you watching sports. I stress out listening to you talk about you at sporting events.
Well, this might stress you out even more. Because we had Barkley on two weeks ago.
Everyone loved that interview, by the way. He's the best.
And now he's back to work. And, you know, he said something in the interview two weeks ago, which I agreed with in the time because I didn't fully give it thought.
And I've thought about it for the last two weeks. Now that we're one game into the NBA season, he basically said, you know, the NBA screwed up.
They pissed off Brown and Tatum with how everything went down with the Olympics and all that. And maybe I'm just intentionally trying to take opposite takes.
I'm really not trying to piss people off, but I get this opportunity to ask you questions who have been in some of these situations. Matt, do you put real credence to the fact that Brown getting left off the Olympic team and Jason Tatum struggling through the Olympics and getting DNPs have somehow motivated this Celtics team to repeat in a more dominant way than they maybe would have had that not happened.

It's so interesting because I'm trying to put myself in my football locker room.

And again, it's different because in basketball, you got 80 games or 82 games.

You got play.

It's a longer season.

For sure.

And football- my football locker room. And again, it's, it's, it's different because in basketball, you got 80 games or 82 games.
You got play, it gets a longer season. So in football, every game matters, right? In basketball, like you said, the Knicks losing, it doesn't matter, right? It doesn't matter.
You're going to, they're going to be a good team. They're going to be in the playoff.
There is something about, um, bulletin board material. There is something about having a little extra for a game in a football world, right? You're playing a team that might've been talking a ton of shit that week.
And you're like, all right, hey, you know, we're going to hit people. Yeah.
You get to hit people. You're going to give a little, you're going to give a little more this week, but in basketball, to me, I'm just, I'm trying to figure this out because in basketball, it's like, what, what, what are the, what, like what, maybe we'll see that in the playoff, but what are we going to see? Are they going to lift weights harder? Are they going to, are they going to jump higher? Are they going to like play harder for 82 games? Like, again, I just think like, I think in their mind, Tatum being benched for the whole Olympics was like an F you for sure.
I can only imagine how shitty that felt in that stage. Okay.
Yeah. I'm going to work on this part of my game.
Brown obviously left off for other reasons and all that, but I don't know, man. I just don't know how, like, how did they, like, let me ask you, like, how did they get better? Like a chip on their shoulder for 82 games of a season? Here's how I look at it.
It's just so funny because I looked at teams who were trying to. I mean, they did go off game one.
Yeah, they smacked the Knicks. Did Jason Tatum hit seven threes because he was pissed off? He got DNPs at the Olympic game.
If anything, he's more rested. He didn't play.
I know. So, but hear me out.
Most NBA teams who are defending their title aren't necessarily run it back teams. Why didn't the Nuggets repeat as champions? First of all, it's very hard to repeat no matter who you are.
Well, that's the thing. Yeah, it's almost impossible.
But also they, you know, Jamal Murray had a rough playoffs. They didn't have Bruce Brown.
They didn't have KCP. Their team was not different.
Why didn't the Warriors repeat? Well, they were ending a dynasty run. Their players got old, and they still have to reboot.
Why didn't Giannis and the Bucs win? Injuries. Injuries.
So, barring injuries, this is the exact same Celtics team. I know KP's coming back, but they're great without them.
I think the Olympic stuff will lead to saltier celebrations. I think you could take a bigger victory lap if and when you win another championship or win 65 games.
But there was nothing, even watching that Knicks game, so many people, Celtic fans on Twitter, like, you know, this is awesome. I'm so happy it played out.
So Drew Holiday and Derek White would be not nearly as motivated to win because of what happened. Jalen Brown wouldn't have put on a few extra pounds of muscle and worked on his game.
And Tatum wouldn't have fixed his jumper, which was not necessarily broken. He was just off for a little bit.
I don't know. I don't.
It doesn't work for me. I think the Celtics are juggernauts, and it was clear that the Knicks are nowhere near them just yet.
I don't think anyone in the NBA is near them yet. There is a much different mentality winning a championship and having everybody coming after you.
True. There's a different mentality.
So for them, just as you said, it's hard to repeat. It's like, does it give them extra motivation? These guys are grown men.
They're professionals. In the peak of their careers.
It's like, again, as you said, maybe it's a little bigger flex in the playoff. Maybe it's when they win another title in the post-game celebration,

they're going to stick their middle finger up to everybody.

Like that.

But like, bro, I mean, he's still lifting.

He's still benching the same weight.

I just don't think it affects.

It doesn't.

The overall point is

they will have some fun celebrations

flipping everybody off.

I do not think it for one second

affects any outcome of any game this year.

But that might just be a dumb opinion

and I'm not an athlete

and we're going to be celebrations flipping everybody off. I do not think it for one second affects any outcome of any game this year, but that might just be a dumb opinion and I'm not an athlete.
And what do I know? So that's it. That's all we got for basketball long road ahead, Matt.
You're in for the ride with me. I appreciate it.
Let's, let's talk a little football before we bring Swisher Swisher. And I mean, I can't even keep track anymore necessarily of what i am enjoying and not enjoying about football uh the the thing that stuck out to me over the weekend you know the deshaun watson stuff which you know it's so crazy now in slow motion with these cameras you could literally see well first of all shame shame on the browns fans man that's bullshit yeah and i know a lot I don't care.
I don't care. Yeah.
Sorry to cut. No, I don't care.
As an athlete, I don't care what you do on the field, off the field, baggage, whatever happens, but to essentially root for someone who gets hurt is bullshit. That's never great.
That's it. And I know a lot of people went back and forth, well, it's because he wasn't playing well they never took it doesn't matter they it happened it's over i don't know what happens from there for deshaun watson right but i was just thinking now all right all the drama aside now you're the browns i i love stefanski i think stefanski's a really great coach what he did last year with the team was remarkable.
I start to look though, you're one in six and you got Nick Chubb back. Jay, Jay boo, Jay boo getting the start too.
Yeah. I love James, but they have to draft a quarterback, Matt.
It's the only way. So what's that going to make like 35 starting quarterbacks since what? Like the nine years, it's true.
it's true. But you tried the trade option.
That didn't work. You finally got your first round picks back and all that stuff.
You are now positioned to potentially be a bottom three. You can't tank in football.
It just doesn't work, right? You can't put a bad offensive lineman in because someone might get killed. So I don't fully believe- I mean, you can't tank, but you can be very, very, very vanilla very very vanilla in your right you could be vanilla but you can't put in someone who you know is gonna just get because players could really get bad and also players are playing for a job i mean you can't go out right play battle yeah like no but i can't see an incentive for the browns to really as an organization i'm sorry to the fans because you're one in six you're tied up with the and the Panthers.
The Patriots, if they happen to get the number one or two pick, are not taking a quarterback. The Panthers, if they happen to get one or two, maybe they take a quarterback.
All right. Barring any trade-ups, though, you could be potentially in position to get whatever quarterback you want in this draft.
I think they have to take that option right now. Well, and also this draft is, it's last, last year's draft was great, right? Caleb, Jaden Daniels, Drake May, uh, Bo Nix, JJ McCrack.
I mean, it was, it was, it was a record breaker. Six guys in the first round, Penix.
This year, it's a little different. And again, we'll be talking about this during draft season because guys will fly up the boards.
Guys will kind of, uh, fly under the radar, but you Sanders. You got Cam Ward.
You don't have necessarily an alpha quarterback. You're like surefire, that's it.
Really good players. Carson Beck, Quinn Ewers.
You have a lot of guys there. But to take a quarterback one or two overall this year with the percentages of quarterbacks never really making it from the first round it's interesting again again these are just things that we as we know can set back an organization so i'm with you browns i don't look they should have never got rid of baker mayfield wow that's the other thing that's the extra that's the extra kick in the balls is that baker mayfield is playing his ass off in Tampa.
Playing his ass off.

That's the only other option besides drafting a quarterback is,

hey, why don't you go try to revitalize someone's career?

And that's exactly what happened with Baker.

I'm going to say something you're probably going to hate.

Browns fans are probably going to say,

maybe they're going to turn this podcast off.

I hope not. Do you even remotely consider trading Miles Garrett right now? Yeah.
In the spirit of, hey, this is a full rebuild. We have the coach, and if Stefanski wants to stay, I think the coach is great.
He's the most valuable asset on the team. He's going to keep you in games probably.
By the how damn good he is. By the way, he's also going to want to get out there in a year or two anyway.
You could get a haul for football standards, not NBA standards. It's kind of what we're potentially seeing with Max Crosby.
And I know if you're going to tank or you're going to... Rebuild.
Call it a rebuild. Rebuild.
You're going to get a first round. I mean, whatever you're going to get from miles Garrett.

And then,

and then you start to stack your picks and you start to build.

If you do believe in Stefanski and what they can do there.

The problem is again,

we talked about this man.

Cleveland is,

I mean,

Cleveland just does that.

It's not a winning culture.

It's not a winning culture.

You can point to a million different things.

It's just,

I mean,

when was the last time the Cleveland Browns were relevant?

The last,

the last year they had some flow. They went to, playoffs with Baker a couple years back.
And then the Flacco Renaissance last year. Six different quarterbacks.
The Fanske won 11 games, but they got wrecked by the Texans in the first round. Yeah.
And it's been bad ever since. Well, I have a heart for them because as a Knick fan, I know what it's like to not have your first round pick for a few years I know what it's like to have a player that maybe okay that was a bad choice anyway that was just what's on my mind the Garrett thing I was just thinking how do you make the team better that's your most valuable thing and he's gonna probably keep you in some games maybe defensively but to me that's not the best not not the thing that I really wanted to talk about with football we saw one wait real quick one by the way one and six just sucks in the nfl dude i've been there you're out yeah no it's just every day going to work is tough when you're yeah just gotta go run you gotta go throw your body into people knowing that there's no reward at the end of the season what am i doing yeah Basically, you're playing for a job, and you're playing to have a job the following year.
Yeah. Well, the other football thing that I just thought brought up some questions for me to ask you.
We all saw the Rodgers, Diddy, Diddy, Naughty, the booger, right? And then he goes on McAfee, great job breaking it down. So rogers taking full ownership like i could see where you might think that but it led me to think okay basketball players know they're on camera at all time they cover their mouth to a point where they won't even talk to each other without their hand over their mouth because they don't want lip readers to read what they're saying football you have a little more place to hide there's way more players there's way more going up but there's also way more cameras probably well you don't know where the cameras are you don't know where they are so rogers got caught there for a moment maybe he forgot that he's always on camera probably for the whole game what is going on that sideline that you either the cameras capture and you hope they don't use or you didn't even know the cameras captured what is happening matt liner you've been there you've done it have you gotten caught before is it well no but well one i want to pose this question and we're going to put have you ever eaten a booger not of memory can i say that when i was three years old i didn't do a booger no i can't see that i can't i used to eat my boogers a lot when i was a kid okay but and you remember this you remember yeah for sure for sure oh dude it's gross bro i know it's gross but i mean it's like it's like asking someone do you pee in the shower and they say no i don't ever pee in the shower i'm like i feel like that's different i feel like peeing in the shower and eating a booker is two two very different things.
Peeing in a pool. I'm like, my kids are like,

my wife is like, no, they, I'm like, what are you talking about? Take a piss in the pool, dude. It's all good.
This just happened for us this weekend. There was a late pool fall day that happened.
My five-year-old gets out of the pool to pee. Yeah.
Well, I never told him that. He just does it.
He just gets out. Dude, my three-year-old will, will get out of the pool to take a shit right next, right on the little field turf.
Cause I'm like, we'll sit in the jacuzzi and he's like, daddy, I got to go potty. I'm like one or two.
Cause if it's one, I say, just go to, I got to go poop. All right, dude, just go right there.
I'll pick it up. Like, it's like, it's a piece of dog shit.
Okay. Anyway, to answer your question.
So the, it's so funny. Okay funny okay so it's different it is different the the biggest thing on a sideline for football is if whether you have to go to the bathroom or not right that that people always ask me like how do you not go to the bathroom for two hours again you're drinking gatorade or water or all sorts of stuff whatever and so two stories one time at usc I shit you not dude I pissed my pants on the sideline almost got a spit take from me right there I can't even I'm not even making this up I think it was 03 and I'm sitting there I don't remember what game it was but it was a home game and I'm sitting there and we we had we had our yellow gold you know our yellow pants and I'm sitting there and I wore like tube socks.
I didn't look great when I drew. I just wore like normal white tube socks you'd wear.
And I'm sitting there and I'm like, dude, I had to pee. And I couldn't run up the tunnel.
It was a long walk. And I'm telling my boys, I'm like, dude, I'm taking a piss right now.
And they're like, what the fuck is wrong with you, dude? And all of a sudden, and the football pants are tight around the knees, right? Yeah. This was, yeah, this was like right around the knees.
And jockstruck, cup on? No cup? No, I wore tights. Tights, okay.
You don't wear a cup in football, dude. I don't know.
Well, you're asking the guy. You wear a jock.
A lot of guys wear just a jock or you can wear like little tight, like spandex, right? And all of a sudden you just get like, just dribbles going down my calf into my white sock. My sock was yellow, okay? So that was one.
And I was like, and I'll tell that I'll never forget. I was like, that was pretty cool.
So this has happened a lot, but I remember being in Houston and this is to your point about the camera. So like what, what happens is, is basically you have like the, the, in the middle of the 50 yard line, because one side is offense, one side is defense, typically where you go to your benches.
And in the middle, you have your table of Gatorade, water, trash can. There's just like that little middle center, right? Where you go and get all your stuff.
That's where usually you go and take a pee. And so what happens is you get to a trainer and you go, Hey, I got to a piss.
Can you cover me real quick? So they stand over you and they, they, you know, they put towels like this around you to the side. Okay.
Really? For the, for those listening, I'm holding like a book to the side. Yeah.
They'll put towels around. Like you were a kid, like you're changing at the pool when you were a kid.

Yeah, they'll like drape you because of cameras.

They're all over side to side.

And you're on a knee.

And the best part about this dude-

Wait a second.

I'm lost right now, Liner.

You're talking about you're dropping your drawers and peeing?

No, no, no.

I'm on my knees peeing behind the Gatorade water table that is about three feet high, right?

So you're sitting,

it's almost like you're going on your knees

peeing behind a tree.

Okay.

But the only thing that the people can see

are your eyes like this.

Can you imagine?

So you imagine the table is like at eyesight.

So everyone knows you're pissing now.

You're just covered.

Oh, your teammates are like,

again, you're in the,

like half the,

people don't even care

because I would say 10 times a game, people are just, dude, I got to take a piss real quick. And they just sit down and go, and then they run out for like kickoff or something.
But I always think it's funny because I'm sitting there and like, and usually eyes are on a quarterback, whether you're the starter, the backup, whatever. And I'm sitting there peeing.
My eyes are like creeping out. Like I'm sneaking.
And I'm just looking like this, like 80,000 people. I'm just taking a piss into the grass.
I'm wondering, is there a camera on me? I'm wondering if someone's going to point to me while I'm peeing. It's like the greatest 60 seconds ever, dude.
It's hilarious. So that shit happens all the time.
That's fascinating. No one, I've never heard anyone talk.
I've never heard anyone talk about it. Yeah.
I a clubhouse. You go.
Basketball, it's a lot closer. You know you're out for a few minutes, too, at basketball.
You get pulled out. You know you're out.
Football, you could be thrown in. Like, what happens if you went up to go take a piss and there's an interception? And now it's like, oh, the backup's in.
We don't know if liner took. Maybe something happened to liner.
You've had to do that sometimes if there's like equipment malfunction.

If you got to go number two.

Well, yeah.

I mean, well, now they have the blue tent.

So now I'm assuming like when you have the blue tent.

Is that a port-a-potty too?

Is that double as a port-a-potty?

Well, when we get a football dude on, we'll ask.

But it's mind-boggling.

How many times guys pee on the sideline?

Eating, obviously, we've seen a lot of people eating on the sideline. Dude, how about Baker just popping a zen last week? Strong move.
Like, second quarter. Because he knows he's on camera.
He knows that's going to be seeing me. I mean, he was trying to be discreet.
But I will say this. This goes without saying.
We never. He's not doing that knowing he's on camera.
Of course. That is just, that is

like him needing, dude, I need a zin

but he could have faked the piss and got

covered up and then popped the zin

with the towels around him. He could have did both.

Dude, we're going to get Baker on throwbacks

because Baker's fucking hilarious.

I feel like I played Halo online

with Baker for one second and then really quick

so with the acting version of that

Yeah, what is it? Well, here's what sucks about it with acting. If you have to go during a take, you can go and sometimes it's like a golf cart ride away or something.
You can't be discreet because you go tell an AD, hey, I really got to go. They'll ask you to hold it.
Can you wait? And most of the time you say yes, but when you can't, that's fine. But then everyone on the walkie, you know, every crew member has a walkie and earphone.
So all you hear and they call the time you say yes but when you can't that's fine but then everyone on the walkie you know every crew member has a walkie and earphone so all you hear and they call it you know going 10-1 10-100 that's code for this guy's got to use the bathroom but you hear every walkie going everyone we're going to need five Jerry's going 10-1 Jerry's going in my mind I think everyone's hearing Jerry's going to take a shit we'll be right back Jerry's going to take a shit we have to be right back. Jerry's going to take a shit.
We have to wait here. So you have 80 people, different than 60,000 people.
Dude, sometimes on our show, because we get mic'd up, and our mics sometimes are hot. This was more back in the studio.
If you had to go to the bathroom, I'm in the bathroom peeing and you can still hear people talking in your ear.

Like, I'm pretty sure they can hear me taking a piss.

Oh no.

Yeah, it's like one of those.

So acting is a little different.

I will imagine kind of similarly,

like having a kiss on screen

and like having bad breath,

like just funny shit that happens.

Like, has that happened to you? That would be my worst nightmare. uh well

make it out with a

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I don't know what anyone's opinion is on when you watch a love scene or kissing scene from my experience. Again, that's not in my skillset.
I don't really get asked to do that often, which is good. I is good i did have um one one actress say to me one time we had to have like a quick kissing scene and literally said i'm so sorry i had like a lot of onions at lunch i apologize i'm like well you knew we were doing this after lunch why would you say is she's just saying she's saying that so that she doesn't get embarrassed so she already set the she set the record maybe but, if you, if you, you knew we were shooting this scene after lunch, why'd you have the onions? I'm popping like 47 minutes before I go on.
Altoids are, are flowing. Wow.
All right. That's football, everybody.
That's our, that's our thoughts on football. No, I guess last quick thing.
A lot of bathroom breaks on the sideline, guys. Last quick thing.
Chiefs got themselves a wide receiver. I mean, the rich get richer richer they kind of had to do it but to me that just solidifies a team that really didn't even need to solidify anything a team a team a team that understands well and also too like and i love dhop man big dhop fan uh great dude um it's just a team a culture that knows how to win obviously understands what they need and goes out and gets it and it's also on the reverse side of that you have players that want to go be a part of greatness and especially dhop who's like you know like the second half of his career yeah like it's and but by the way can still play like a number one receiver he's just been hidden away in t Tennessee the last two years, you know? So a big get for the chiefs, my homes, he'll fit right in.
Um, I thought they were going to lose that Niners game. I thought if any game, like the Niners have to have it, if the chiefs could not, they'll never take a week off, but they don't necessarily have to, they have a stranglehold on the division, but have you seen my home? Like, this is the thing about them.
This is why he's great. His numbers are awful.
Like, no, and I think he would tell you that, but it doesn't matter. Like, he's got like- He's still like third in MVP odds.
Dude, he's got like eight, I don't even know, like eight interceptions, like eight touchdowns, but they're undefeated. And then when that dude, when the playoffs come, I mean, this is just what they do.
And that's, to me, from being around teams and a perspective, that's what makes them great, man. Because they don't give a shit about all that other stuff.
His worst statistical season, and I think he's still third best odds or second best odds for MVP. Yeah.
Good luck, Hopkins. All right, but we are going to do what has become my favorite segment.
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I thought maybe at one point he said breaks either way. Dude is 10 for 10 on the year.
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Number one, though, I was telling Matt, right? I just got to see you in the Bahamas a few weeks back at the Turn 2 Foundation. Hold on, boys.
Hold on real quick. Oh, is Matt going to get his Heisman trophy? Oh, no.
Oh, he's putting a Dodgers. Oh, he's putting a Dodgers.
Really cool Dodgers warm-up jacket on his chair. We don't recognize that, Nick.
But I was telling people, like, the coolest part of that trip for me was it was me, you, Kevin Connolly, and CeCe. And we just got to talk Yankees.
And we were, like, talking Soto and all this before the playoff run. Oh, yes.
And, I mean, that guy's just etching himself into one of the greatest, like one-year seasons for the Yankees, right? Yeah, I mean, if you think about it, I mean, when everything happened this offseason, this past offseason, when Juan came over to the Bronx and you lost somebody like a Michael King, who is just absolutely over there in San Diego doing his thing, and just the names that you gave up to get Juan Soto and the price tag of $30 million. You never know what's going to happen in those rental seasons.
But the fact that this cat is 25 years old and he has the presence. I mean, come on, fellas.
We've been around athletes our whole lives. We've seen athletes at the top of their game.
And the fact that this kid, he's a kid. He's 25 years old and commands the respect of everybody.
It's been absolutely amazing to watch him go about his work. He has done nothing but take the New York Yankees from a championship caliber organization even to a more championship caliber organization.
The things he's done for the players, not only in the big leagues, but even in the minor leagues. Now, all of a sudden, you have somebody a little different to look up to instead of Aaron Judge.
So nobody's going to have Aaron Judge sort of power. So the next thing you know, you get Juan comes in and all of a sudden he's got a little different work ethic.
The way that he works in the batting cage is a little different than what Aaron does. So now all of a sudden you're bringing a contact player plus power over to really, really kind of propel those young players into the players they could be.
So for him, Judge, Big G is doing his thing right now, man. It's just been a lot of fun to watch.
And I'm really, really excited. Brothers, we've been waiting for this sort of matchup for hell.
Yeah. west coast let's go mvp let's do this

baby let's square them up two heavyweight fighters baby go at it i can't wait man i can't wait i actually i mean i'm a i'm a i got my dodgers hat on i'm a lifelong dodger fan you guys know this and i'm i'm it's two versus one but it's okay swiss you're like my favorite dude in the world. I love you.
But so, I mean, look, Soto, Giancarlo, Judge, and then Otani, Betts. I think Freddie Freeman is probably going to be, I mean, it's stars and stars and stars for the game of baseball.
And this is what everybody wanted. It just, just like, like it doesn't get any better than this.
What we're about to witness on the biggest stage. Yeah, it really doesn't.
And I think you hear a lot of things from two types of fans. You hear about the fans saying, oh, these are the evil empires.
These are the most expensive teams. They should be playing in the World Series.
And maybe you're right. I mean, the ROI on $300 million teams has to be up there.
But if you think about it, we haven't had a matchup like this in, I can't remember the last time, two number one seeds, both from the American league and the national league. I mean, I'd like to look back at this series about 10 years from now and to see how many players have the opportunity to end up in the hall of fame from these two teams.
If you think about it, absolutely fantastic. So I think just in general, man, I can't wait.
Matty, I'm going to be out there in LA on Friday. I can't wait to come to the stadium, check it all out, feel the vibes there.
I was able to be there in the Bronx for the ALCS, and the atmosphere was absolutely electric, man. You know, Chavez is going to be cranking Friday night.
There's actually a small chance that Jerry and I will be at Game 5 in New York, assuming there's a game five. I can't imagine a team is getting swept in this, but in the Bronx, game five, I've never been to New York Stadium, but Chavez this weekend with all the LA sports, but you know, the fans can be rolling in a little late, the 405 traffic down there, but it's going to be pumping.
It's going to be pumping, dude. Let's go.
Absolutely electric. I mean, the team flies out today.
So everybody's going to go out and get a great workout in tomorrow. And then obviously Friday night, baby.
808 Eastern Standard Time. 505 West Coast, baby.
I feel like we should suit you up and you just get one more at a bat for the switch. Oh, Swisher could for sure right now,

get us a single or draw a walk.

If we needed them to,

I guarantee it.

I don't change,

right?

Like,

you know what they say with basketball?

Like,

ah,

maybe you can't dribble as much,

but if you could shoot,

you could always shoot.

What's the baseball equivalent?

I feel like just pitch selection or just knowing how to hit a gapper.

That don't change.

Yeah.

But fellas,

you got to remember,

man, when I played a decade ago, most fastballs were like 92, 94. You know what I mean? Now times have changed a little bit.
I mean, it just seems like the athlete nowadays and you know, I mean, I'm sure you guys see it in your respected sports for sure. I mean, you know, Maddie just with what's happening in football and Jerry, bro, just with everything, bro, from basketball to the whole nine, you've seen it all.
These athletes nowadays, bro, are freaks. These dudes are just absolutely just avatars running around.
Absolutely amazing to see because I mean, I spend my whole day in the

locker room like this. Hey, what's up boys? How you guys doing? Yo, what's up G, Aaron,

how you doing, man? You know, like I'm not looking anybody in the eye anymore, bro.

Dude, well, those dudes are monsters. I mean, Judge and Giancarlo are monsters.
I've always

Thank you. Yo, what's up, G? Aaron, how you doing, man? I'm not looking anybody in the eye anymore, bro.
Dude, well, those dudes are monsters. I mean, Judge and Giancarlo are monsters.
I've always actually wondered this because we always talk about a football, like the toughest position in sports. And Jerry Hairston, did you play with Jerry? Yes, I did.
He was part of that 09 World Series team, bro. That's right.
So Jerry's my boy. We talk about this a lot.
The thing to do. And I always say, I played baseball.
I was like, I think I could probably hit. I think I could put in play a 90 mile an hour fastball.
If I knew it was coming, I think I could, I think I could time it and put it in play, but now to hit a hundred, 101 consistently with a dirty slider and all this, is it, is it the hardest as an athlete, is it the hardest thing in sports is to hit a major league pitcher in an abat? Yeah, you know, it's hard to say because, you know, in a lot of other sports, you have the opportunity to do those things. I mean, everyone talks about how hard golf is.
I mean, Jerry, we know how hard golf is, right? It's true. But we have the same opportunity as pros to do the same thing, right? True.
In baseball, there's not the equivalent to understand, like, how really quick it really is. You know, I mean, you can talk about the .4 seconds from the time it leaves his hand until it hits the catcher's mitt, that you have .12 seconds to decide what you're going to get, and then if you're going to swing or not.
So it's just, I mean, I think statistically, I think scientifically, it feels like it has to be. Listen, bro, I've never been in the pocket on a zero blitz, bro, trying to read a defense either.
So I don't understand how hard that is. But I think just in general, obviously I'm a little biased.
You've seen so many different athletes come out and try this. I mean, Michael Jordan is one, probably one of the greatest athletes we've ever seen.
And it took him a little bit of time to pick it up. Now, I'm not saying Mike couldn't play in the big leagues if he wouldn't have started off at an earlier age.
But listen, man, I think sports nowadays are so, I mean, I look at the basketball scene, I see Wimby out there. I'm like, how the hell am I going to get a shot over this guy? How the hell am I going to be able to do that? So I think baseball is definitely up there.
I think returning to serve in tennis would probably be up there as well. Anything quick twitch like that for sure, no doubt.
All right, let's just get into this right now. Matt, you jump into, I don't want to make this just like Yankees only.
I know it's 2v1, but the Yankees will win the World Series if dot, dot, dot happens. Like what needs to happen for this team to actually beat this amazing Dodgers team? Starting pitchers give us length.
Starting pitching gives length, right? If you look at both starting pitchers, I think you'll probably hear a lot of guys talk about it. You know, Poppy, A-Rod, you know, Jeep, they'll all be talking about this.
The starting pitchers. You know, you look at the Los Angeles Dodgers and they're rolling two and a half starting pitchers out there.
Think about it. You know, Poppy, A-Rod, you know, they'll all be talking about this, the starting pitchers.
You know, you look at the Los Angeles Dodgers and they're rolling two and a half starting pitchers out there if you think about it. It's crazy.
You got Flaherty going, you got Yamamoto, and then you got Walker Bueller, who's just coming off of TJ, the second one. So, you know, if you look at the Yankees, you know, with where they are starting pitcher wise, they've got four quality starters that you're able to roll out as well as Nasty Nestor and Marcus Stroman that can come out of the bullpen and give you a couple innings.
So I think that's one of the things I noticed, at least in the ALCS, was the, you know, the bullpens got taxed a little bit. Yeah.
When you're throwing and you're covering three, four, five innings a game, I mean, that has a tendency to tax on you, especially after 162 game season, as well as spring training. So, you know, it just kind of seems like right now the bullpens are rested up.
But if you go game one and you only get two innings out of your starters and they've got to cover seven, you know, obviously, bro, with days, there's only two off days throughout this whole series, after game two and then after game five. So there's not a whole lot of time to rest up.
So I think for me that would be my biggest thing. I don't think it's going to be – I think it's going to be really hard to stop both of these offenses.
I think the offenses are absolutely fantastic. I can't remember the last playoff series that I've seen where there's been eight, ten runs put up on a regular.
And that's exactly what the Dodgers are doing. So, I mean, with everything that happened in the Yankee series against the Guardians, the Guardians gave the Yankees everything they could want, bro, and pulled out some great games.
And I think we were all blessed and lucky enough to watch those games. And just there for a span of 72 hours, bro, baseball was like the greatest thing going that we had.
So it's just really fun for us. I was there.
I was there after the big game after the big Noel home run. So that that stadium was hyper I will say there was a difference with at least in the section I was in anytime they pitched to Stanton the fans were like screaming why but when Soto came up you could hear a pin drop because everyone was terrified more than I say the batter that scared the Guardians fans the most,

even as great as Stanton was, was in fact Soto for sure.

And, you know, we talked about the ROI on like, you know,

the Yankees payroll and a lot of the talk of the payroll. Like I know a lot of Guardians fans today in Cleveland are talking about,

oh, our payroll and all that.

But look, it's like a business model.

They made the ALCS with the third lowest payroll.

So it's hard to argue it doesn't work. I mean, that is not something.
But I was like, that's not something any player during a playoff series say, hey, you know, if we just had, if he just spent a little more money and we had our own guy, you guys aren't thinking about that. So why should the fans be yelling about that? Yeah, no, I mean, listen, you know, I mean, if you look at the three out of the four teams that were playing in the championship series, three out of the four were the highest paid teams in baseball, the Mets, the Dodgers and the Yankees.
So it's not always like that. You know, you know, like we were talking earlier, the two evil empires, the most expensive teams.
I can't remember the last time the two most expensive teams were playing and suiting up that's my point right it just doesn't happen that often you know but going back to that cleveland series that you were talking about that at bat for juan soto joe and i my wife you know you guys know we were both watching the game just like so intently bro and juan's up bro and he's taking them pitches bro and he's giving you the soto shuffle and he's nodding his head you you know? And he's like, oh yeah, I'm on it. I'm on it.
And Joe and I are watching the at bat and I'm looking at her and she's looking at me and she's like, Nick, he's on it. He's on it.
He's on it. And I'm like, well, how do you know that? She's like, baby, I've been watching you play like forever.
Like I can tell when you're- She studies people. She's an actor.
She studies people. I can tell you when somebody's on and when somebody's off, bro, and the best part about that at bat was every pitch that he was fouling off was a put-away pitch.
Yeah. It wasn't like just a measly wrinkled get-me-over, oh, break the ball.
Bro, these were nasty, dirty scissors, cane jumps, wide pieces, like moving like this. And bro, when he clipped on fastball, cause you know, that's what he was waiting for.
And the one thing that I really, really appreciate about Juan Soto is if you're watching him when he gets into it bats where he doesn't necessarily feel comfortable, you see him choke up on his bat a little bit more. And there's something to be said about that for young players out there everywhere.
That if Juan Soto can choke up on a bat, choke up on the bat too you know hell yeah I just think it's one of those things bro and he got that heater and let's be honest it wasn't wasn't a bad fastball it was a fastball up and away at 95 with good ride and the whole nine and for some reason and some I don't even know how it happened he got on top of that fastball and was somehow able to draw it out there to right center, bro, and to leave the ballpark. And the best part about that was, is just like every baseball player's ever wanted to do, stop right in front of this dugout, flex in front of the whole team, dude, you know what I mean? And then go about your way around the bases so he's just been an absolute just a joy to have over in the bronx for this year obviously i pray to god that he's going to be a new york yankee for the rest of his career who knows but at the end of the day man being able to watch him work in person has been a joy to watch for sure some of the greatest like sports flexes that i love as an athlete, like touchdown celebrations or kind of whatever.
When Tiger Woods in his prime would do the fist bump and just get the whole, like it gives me chills now. And honestly, being a baseball player growing up, the bat flip and just staring down your dugout, the flex while 80,000 and running around the's literally i got goosebumps right now it's literally has to be the greatest feeling on the planet dude

the planet oh yeah there's no doubt and nowadays bro with the way that athletes can pimp home runs

bro i was gonna catch one in the ear my next day back you weren't able to do that you but you pimp

the home run you pimp yeah for sure i mean the guy behind me didn't like it. But I mean, bro, come on.
Could you imagine just being in a situation like that where just emotions are so high and everything is just running through you like you've never had before? So, I mean, listen, I think that as impressive as that bat that Juan Soto has that home run that Judge hit off Class A, 99 cutter down and away. I mean, it's just amazing just what these athletes are able to do today.
So for me, I'm obviously in such awe, and obviously just being able to be there and enjoy it up close and personal has been awesome as well. So I'm sure you never thought that you'd be sitting here 15 15 years whatever later and the yankees still haven't won a championship since your last one in 09 but i'm gonna go back to 09 for a second what are some of your besides winning the world series the actual games what sticks out in your mind throughout that because that's a great series there's a lot of interesting records like Utley tied the most home runs in the World Series Matsui tied the single RBI game Ryan Howard tied the most strikeouts in the World Series I love Ryan Howard uh and a couple other and Mariano got like this so what do you recall besides just winning the damn World Series from 09 yeah I think just in general I think leadership is the first thing that mind.
You got to remember, I was able to play with some stud players early in my career with guys like Eric Chavez and Jason Kendall and Mark Kotze. And then I got to go to Chicago and I got to play with Jim Tomey and Paul Canerco and Jermaine Dye.
And then I get to come to New York and you reach the ultimate pinnacle of players with Derek Jeter and Mariano Rivera and Andy Pettit and A-Rod and Jorge Posada and Robbie Cano. I mean, the list goes on and on.
It was just kind of one of those years where it just felt like everything was supposed to happen that way. And, you know, I've been on teams before when we've been in good situations and we feel like we're going to be successful, but we just didn't have that confidence in who we were to put ourselves over the top.
And I remember in 2006, I played in the ALCS with the Oakland A's and Frank Thomas was our big leader that year. And we just didn't have enough firepower to get past the Tigers that year.
But I just remember being in the ALCS matching up against the Anaheim Angels, who we didn't necessarily always play well against them. But when you look across the locker room and you see Derek and you see Rod and you see Posada and you see Mo and Pettit just walking around like it's another game.
And just like, hey, fellas, let's just do our job. We got this.
Don't worry about it. We're right where we need to be because you knew that somebody out of that group was going to step up and be the hero and that was kind of one of those things for myself just looking around that room being like there's no way we can't win like we it's it's not that we're gonna win it's there's no way we're not going to win you know it just kind of seemed like that was one of those amazing things and I do think there was a lot of Yankee ghosts that came over from the old stadium into the new first year of the new one.
Yeah, obviously, bro. And, you know, the first year that the old Yankee stadium was built, the Yankees won the World Series that year, too.
So there's something to be said about that. I tell how all the time I'm like, how just we need to build a couple billion dollar stadiums every couple of years.
I will be good to go. You know, Swish, how you're, I mean, gosh, you mentioned those names, and I'm getting flashbacks, and I was never an Angels fan, obviously, but your personality is infectious, to say the least, and you, you know, I've gotten to know A-Rod and Jeter.
Those guys are very different, quiet, kind of lead by example. How, like, how does you, how do you fit into a team like that? Because you were a hell of a player, but you're like, I've been in locker rooms.
We've been in locker rooms. There's different types of personalities and sometimes it's hard to mesh all of that.
How, how are you able to fit in with those types of guys, given the personality and the contagious personality that you have? Two things. Number one, respect.
As, as off the wall as I am, I am a very respectful human being. I just am.
It's the way I was raised. If my grandma came back down here and saw me doing any other way, I don't think she would have it.
And number two, all I wanted to do was win. And that's all those guys wanted to do as well.
And when you get a group of individuals, we, Hey bro, come on, man. You've been on, you've been on championship caliber winning teams.
Like when you get a group of individuals together that have all the same thought processes moving forward as a unit, bro, it's so impressive. And that starts from the top down.
The locker room was, was, was owned by Derek Jeter. He was the guy and we took his lead.
And so for myself, as much as I could be all over the place, all he had to do was give me a look. And I knew exactly what that meant.
And so it's just kind of one of those things where, you know, I've always kind of had this personality and I've always had to try and tone it down for people. But for Derek and the New York Yankees, he didn't want me to tone it down.
He wanted me to be me. And that was one of the more powerful things that I think anyone has ever given me was the ability to be myself.
And that's why I think I thrive as well as I did in New York, because I had people in my corner like the captain to help me get through those times. And even though I was a little rambunctious, he knew when to tone me down and then when to let me go.
And so I could not be more thankful for those guys because listen, you know how it is. He could have told me, Hey, tone it down.
We don't do that here. That's not what we want.
But he knew that that was going to take away from what I was able to do on the field. And that's why he was as great of a leader as he was, because he knew how to leader and mentor everybody for who they were.
So I was just so blessed to be able to roll up in there. Now I've got five big brothers, brother, I never had who have taught me so much about not only being an athlete, but about being a man and a great human being.
And I could not be more blessed to have those human, those guys in my life. Yeah.
Anyone telling you to tone it down can kick rocks, dude. I want to shout out to you guys, though, because I remember we had this whole storyline on Entourage where we ended up shooting at Yankee Stadium, A-Rod and Teixeira, right? But that storyline was thought of a year before.
And when we reached out, I might even still have an email from Teixeira. A-Rod and Teixeira themselves sent back word, we ain't cameoing on Entourage until we win a ring.
So shout outs to the new guys because they didn't do it. It did not happen until after 09.
It still took some time after that, but we got to shoot at Yankee Stadium and it was only because of that 09 championship. Which that's why it's one of my favorite Yankee championships because that led to us getting A-Rod and on the show how great was text in that episode he was fantastic bro he was great he was absolutely great so i always have a soft spot for that uh for that oh 19 that's sorry matt are we killing you right now liner are we absolutely like get off get some by the way by the way the way, the crappy thing is we won a World Series during the COVID year and everyone wants to say, oh, it didn't happen.
It was like, it couldn't even go to a game. It happened.
By the way, I have been a lot like you guys because I have been completely disappointed in my Dodgers. We win the NL West.
We have the best record in the NL. And we can't...
By the way, Swish, that Padres series scared the shit out of me. Because I think we all could agree, like, the Padres could easily win the World Series with that talent and that team.
I'll tell you what, man. I was, like, game five, I was like, dude, we're going to...
And, you know, I'm like Jerry. You know, I'm learning a lot about Jerry as a Knicks fan.
They're losing this week. They get their ass kicked by the Celtics, and the group chat is going off,

and it's like, we suck, and they shoot this and all this,

and I'm like, dude, it's one game.

But that's how I am with the Dodgers in the playoffs.

So I'm going into – listen, I'm going into this series.

I respect the Yankees.

You know, Stanton's an L.A. kid.

We got guys out there that are from the West Coast.

I love the Yankees. But you know what timeanton's an L.A.
kid. We got guys out there that are from the West Coast.
I love the Yankees.

But you know what time it is, baby.

By the way, I should know this.

Who are we throwing game one?

Are we throwing Flaherty?

Because Flaherty got rocked his last time.

Yeah, Jay Flair and Garrett Cole, game one.

Yeah, Garrett Cole.

UCLA guy.

Yes, sir.

Oh, by the way, man, you got Jack Flaherty, Harvard Westlake kid. If If I'm not mistaken, I think he's from out there too.
Can we talk about something real quick? Jerry and I were talking about this before. We've all thrown a first pitch.
We've been lucky to throw a first pitch. I know how I got to throw one.
That should not happen. Listen, okay.
I know you weren't a pitcher, but you're an athlete. I thought your first pitch, like, just this week or last week.
Great moment, by the way way. Super cool for you.
I'm sure I want to hear just what that moment was like, but you threw like a change up, dude. I thought you were going to throw a heater, bro.
That's your opportunity. He had a thick jacket.
You didn't 50 cent it by any means, but you just threw a little casual, like, come on. You ain't got a 50 cent it.
It's a damn switcher. Allisher.
All I'm thinking about is Derek Jeter sitting on my shoulder, bro, saying, hey, guys, don't bounce it. Just don't bounce it.
Whatever you do, don't bounce it. Yeah, that's the one thing, yeah.
You know, and just for me, man, I mean, come on. I mean, just look, how blessed am I, bro? I'm just a nobody from a little small town in West Virginia, bro, that, like, worked my way up.
Now, all of a sudden, I'm throwing out a first pitch in the ALCS for the New York Yankees. I mean, talk about just like my whole world is just has been made and just being able to the fact that I'm part of this organization and the fact that I'm so blessed to be one of the fortunate ones that has the greatest logo in the world tattooed across my chest and being able to be part of that, man.
I mean, listen, I think you guys knew that's how I was as a player. I mean, my relationship with the fans is on another level.
So the fact that I'm so blessed to be able to have that relationship with them and to continue to keep growing that relationship moving forward. Listen, boys, I'm not quite sure what I've got in store in my future here, but I think it's got to be something with the New York Yankees moving forward, boys.
I made a prediction. I won't say it on the show for you.
You and I know what it is. We'll keep that off the air.
By the way, that would be awesome. Keep that off the air.
But here's why I love Nick too, because everything he just said, and I don't know if you're going to remember this, Nick. Do you remember the first time we ever met? If you don't, it's cool.
I get it. I remember it because it was way more special for me.erry was wearing your jersey jerry was wearing that's not no i was not wearing your jersey but anyway here's how we first met and i'm i'm bringing this up because you said this exact thing to me this is in 09 because you just had gotten to the yankees so you just started dating your now wife yeah i was dating one of her good friends.
We went to a game.

We went to a Yankees game. And then

afterward, Joanna invited, like,

hey, come down to where I'm going to go see Nick

where they get out. Come down.

So we go down there and, you know,

you guys come out and I meet you for the first time

and meet some other Yankees. And then we all ended

up going back to your place. So I got to hop

in Swisher's car with the players part.

And I got to take that drive out of Yankee Stadium, but from a much different point of view. And I have my mind going, Oh my God, this dude gets to do this 81 times.
This is the coolest shit ever. And on the way, we got back to his place.
He said that he looked at me and we just talking. He's like, Jerry, look at, he's like, I'm just some like guy from wherever I like, I cannot believe I'm playing for the Yankees.
I'm dating her. Like, look at us.
And then we found out we have the same damn birthday too. No doubt.
I mean, you, you were able to be with us on that sort of journey, which was amazing. So, I mean, bro, it just goes to show you like, if you treat people well and you give people everything you've got each and every day and they, you know, they sort of expect that.
I mean, bro, we have like, we had like our personal own like policeman. It's crazy.
We were driving on the wrong side of the street. Police escorts are the best thing in sports.
That's the only way out of Yankee stadium that i've seen that is the coolest way um listen but we we can't before we let you go though something else we talked about in the bahamas which i have then gotten to watch is everything you're doing with home run derby x and all that so like we set the table a little bit earlier with the audience in the intro right first i want to know how did the, how did the Home Run Derby come to you? Like, where did you come? Because I know you're heavily, you're in now. This is your thing.
Yeah, this is a thing, you know? And I feel like we've just been so blessed to be able to kind of provide a different kind of game for our baseball fans. I mean, listen, it's almost like the, you know, the seven-on-seven version of football, right? Exactly.
T10, T20 and cricket, right? Or the big three in basketball. Yep.
And the one thing that I think we've done a great job of is we've taken that to the next level. Not only is it a different sort of viewing for our fans, but now it's co-ed and that makes it the absolute best.
But we've got some of the most badass softball, baseball, female players that you could actually, you could ever even want to see. And so I think for myself, just the fact that we're able to do that, listen, I mean, I'm a girl dad, fellas.
So my daughters, they don't want to see me hit, bro. They want to see Jocelyn Aloe hit and they want to see Erica Kelly.
And they want to see Alex Hugo. And they just want to see Ashton Lansdale.
And we've got all these amazing females that I have been blessed to develop a relationship with. And now I'm just like, wow, being able to see it from both sides.
My daughter started playing softball this year, not because of me, but because of her idols she has now and how amazing these girls have treated her. People like Jesse Warren and just, they've just been so amazing to my daughter daughter now all these female players are starting to get their own line of shoes and gloves and now all of a sudden they're starting to come our way and it's just one of those things where i'm so blessed to be able to part of that homer derby x is a three-on-three co-ed homerun derby offense and defense it's absolutely amazing we've been so blessed we had four events last year sold out everywhere we've been next year.
I give you guys a little bit of insight this year. Come on, give us a little break a little next year, y'all seven events in 2025.
We're really, really excited. Major League Baseball has been just the best partner you would ever want to be.
You would ever want to have when it comes to these sort of things. So for us, I feel like we're doing an amazing job.
Our leaders with Kellum Salter and Charlie Hill have absolutely been rock stars and they brought in myself and Johnny Gomes. So it's a little bit of WWE and a little bit of former Derby, which is absolutely amazing.
And, you know, listen, we're going to continue to keep pushing this thing forward. We're going to do our best to try and get it out and get the brand out as much as we can, but I'm definitely going to be pumping it a little more.
I appreciate y'all bringing it up, man. Dude, I think it's amazing.
I really do. I want to take Matt.
We should really, number one, we should take our kids to one of the seven events. And then I don't know, maybe do we throw a bat in Leinart's hand? It doesn't have to count.
Maybe like an exhibition. He thinks he can crank them still.
Two things real quick. First of all, just we're seeing, you know, women's flag football grow.
And I think what you're now doing for softball, just creating that exposure is awesome. And the fact that your girls are far, that's awesome, man.
So congrats to you. But I am reading this real quick.
So the teams are comprised of a legend, a softball player, a player from that region's local development system, and then an influential content creator, which is a wild card. Matt Leiner, folks.
I mean, you're looking at two content creators right here. Do we have an event coming to LA? I'm not playing.
No way. Let me ask you this question, Swish.
How far are the fences? So we shrink the field field, right? Because you got to remember, dude, not everybody's going to be able to hit a baseball 400 plus feet, right? So what we do is we strategically place our field towards where most of the outfield stands are. So we use that as our home run kind of, we call it our home run alley, our home run porch.
And then from there, there's a field goal in the middle of all of that. And if you hit it through those field goals, you get double points.
So what's great about that is that not only are you hitting, which is amazing, but then you get to play defense as well. And that's what's great.
That's cool. Yeah, I saw that.
Rob some home runs. I saw you get the feet down and rob a home run.
It's a great clip of you doing that. It's pro, baby.
Say college. Hey, what is, you mentioned your girls real quick.
I know we're running out of time. What is Nick Swisher like as a girl dad whose girls play sports? You're already laughing.
I want to know. He's getting better.
He's getting better okay good it's process it's a process so you've got to remember fellas like you know up until now my oldest daughter emmy she's 11 and my youngest sailor she's eight we've been doing a lot of individual sports up until this year so i haven't been exposed to the sports as i have this year right? Which has has been at the end of the day, amazing, but I'm not going to lie. We had our evaluations, right? There are player evaluation, not tryouts anymore.
Oh yeah. And there were 82 girls and my daughter was like 75 out of like 82 girls.
So she had to stand in line and just like, you know, it took forever to get through the evaluations. And bro, meanwhile, I got my hood over, I got my hat on, my shades on.
I'm just like, I'm full like bowed up on the right foot line, just like keeping it all these coaches. You know, I want to see what's going down.
And the best part of this dude is my best friend Kate. She calls me and she's like, Hey, how was it? And I was like, Hey, you know, it was, I'm a little stressed out.
She's like, Nick, I need to give you a little piece of advice. And I was like, what's that? And she was like, this will be a great experience for Emmy playing softball.
If you don't fuck it up. and she could not more right.
I have, listen, I showed up for the first game unprepared fellas. I mean, you got, you got to buy the chairs.
Oh yeah. You have to have a chair.
Like you got to buy all that stuff, bro. I didn't, I knew nothing about that stuff, but I can promise you this.
I'm six games in now, gentlemen. Wait till you come see my setup, baby.
You want to play a football game with me? I got y'all boys. I got you.
Since we're dadding out. Joanne is probably like, oh God, I'm screwed.
That's exactly what she's doing. She's like, Nick, do I have to sit by you during this game? Since we're dadding out right now, I do need, I can't think of two better people to help me with this situation.
So my three and a half year old son who loves T-ball, he's in T-ball, right? He has done everything lefty so far. Like he just naturally likes to swing, whether it's golf clubs.
So I'm buying him lefty golf clubs, bought him a lefty glove. But just the other day, he picks up a ball with the right hand and throws me an absolute dart bullet on a string.
So I'm like, hey, wait a minute. So I start making the throwing arm way better right-handed, hitting lefty.
And Scooter, he scoots on his push-off foot is his left foot. So, Matt, you're a lefty.
Nick, you're a switch hitter. Throw lefty.
I think you were golfing righty in the Bahamas, though, right? What am I dealing with here? My older son was clearly right-handed. I am so confused by what this kid is.
Any advice? What do I do? Hey, we're the same because I throw left, I golf right, and I bat right. But I kick a ball left.
I'm opposite. That's fairly common, Jerry.
Don't worry. Is it? I'm from a family of right-handing, boring people with sports.
It was all righties. Nothing new.
Can I also just point out the most obvious thing? He's three, bro. That's a good point.
That's a good point. He's three.
By the way, the fact that you're- I don't care what he's doing with his feet right now, bro. As long as he's enjoying what he's doing and you get to spend time with him, because listen, I know how much you love sports and I know how much you love your kids.
And the fact that you're able to spend time with them is such a blessing for all of us. Maddie, obviously, I see your kid on the gram and what he's been able to do and kind of maybe following in your footsteps a little bit.
That has to be such a blessing for you to be able to do that. It's the best feeling and it's the best advice for all of us is just trying not to overstep and enjoy the ride.
Because it really, like my oldest son turns 18 this week. It's mind boggling.
And he's going to play college football ideally. And now my little ones are four and a half and three.
And we've got another one on the way. It's like 18.
Where did time go? My advice always is be a dad, coach, do everything, but enjoy the moment and enjoy the process and just the journey because it can be gone like that. Jerry, it's okay, dude.
Righty, lefty, listen. Yeah, bro.
It don't matter, bro. I just don't want to start buying all the wrong stuff.
I got golf clubs, batting. I got all sorts of stuff.
I'm buying the wrong stuff. I don't know what I have.
I'm so confused. That's a good problem, man.
It might be, you know. Hey, listen, man.
Just enjoy the process, bro. We know that guy.
We know the little guys are going to be a stick in golf, dude. Hey, you're talking to a guy whose kid just got his first compliment in soccer.
But listen, my goal is to never embarrass my kids. Regardless of what I feel inside, I have a handle on my emotions, so I'm never going to embarrass my kids on the field.
I can tell you what. I think we're going to plan a little boys trip and go to Home Run X, Matt.
Dude, I'm in, man. That's awesome, Swish.
I know a guy that can get y'all tickets, man. I feel like you got the hookup, right? I'll get y'all some VIP tickets.
Oh, also, too, Jerry, hey, it's in the mail, dog. Your little boy, hey, he's got a Yankee hat coming this way because I saw something on the gram the other day.
Yeah, I know. They're trolling me.
Sure, he gets the right hat know, I mean, I think we got these new ones that just came out. You know what I'm saying? We got these ones right here.
Oh, don't tell me that's in the mail, Swish. His wife just trolling him.
So I got a few of those. Just make sure that address is in my text messages.
We'll make sure that happens. Hey, listen, I'll take a judge-signed jersey.

That's what I'll take.

By the way, man, hey, wouldn't we all, Matty?

Hey, I want to say

two things. OH.

I-O, baby.

You've been watching the boys, man. Hey, that Oregon game

was a tough one. It was a tough one.

We're in Ohio this weekend, and we're going

to be there quite a bit over the next six weeks.

I expect to see you out there. They're going to make a run.
And then I want to say this, love you boys. Good luck to your Yankees this series.
Okay. Good luck to your Yankees.
May the best team win. I mean, honestly, you know who I'm rooting for.
I think, you know, who Jerry's rooting for, but the fact that our game is finally getting the matchup that we want, right. It's just one of those things, but we've been waiting on this for a minute.
East Coast, West Coast, bro. Yeah, for real, man.
It just seems like there's so many things that are going on. And obviously, you know, hey, Dodger Stadium is going to be on fire.
And the Bronx is going to be on fire. Well, enjoy it, man, because you're going to be in LA.
So enjoy all of it. I'm going to be there in LA.
And then when you guys get your tickets all locked up, let me know. I'll be there game five for sure.
I think Joe's going to fly up too. She wants to come to one of the games.
So we'll all be there, man. So make sure y'all let me know when you get up there.
Well, I'm about to fire off this group chat after this. Yeah, yeah.
No, we're hitting up. Because we got to have a wager on this as well.
Although you might not, you know, Swish, you're a part of the Yankees organization. You might not be able to wager, but we'll do something friendly.
We'll do something friendly. All right.
All right. I'm in for that.
I'm in for that. Nick, can't thank you enough.
Love to the family. Enjoy the World Series.
Home Run Derby X. We'll see you there.
You're the best, man. Take care.
Love you, bro. Thanks for coming on.
Hey, love you guys, man. You guys are fucking killing it, man.
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Here we go. Jerry, it's time.
Time. Throwback three.
Last week's throwback three, I think was my favorite. And I think the audience let us know.
I got a lot of responses on our social and on the throwback show social. It was great.
A lot of people loved your NBA jam. Frankie Fingers, Z8 said no MVP.
Baseball is insane. Not wrong.
We can only pick three though. There was a lot of Ken Griffey Jr.
baseball. Jeff O'Neill pointed that out.
And then we even had some love with nhl 94 there's like apparently people still play competitive nhl 94 i think we got invited to uh the the playoff matchups for people playing nhl 94 on sega genesis that was mine it's your turn this week matt what is uh this week this is this is this is my favorite because we can do a thousand different things but in the spirit of sport and you you feel you feel like a conspiracy theory guy to me i totally am you totally are so i was looking back and i was trying to think of the top sports conspiracy theories out there. You can go all the way back to the 60s or you can go back to very recent.
So I want to do our top throwback three conspiracy sports theories. All time.
Whatever you think. Whew.
I know. Again, this one's interesting.
Conspiracy. Alleg alleged, everything we're about to say, allegedly happened.

Or not even close to alleged.

We neither confirm or deny. It may or may not have happened.
We don't know. We may know people that know.
We may not. I don't know.
Okay? But why don't you start with number three? So I'm starting with number three. and no one knows if this is true,

but certainly we know the boxing world

has been a little murky over the years. Yeah, a lot of rigged fights.
The Sonny Liston rigged fight took a dive against Muhammad Ali because there was mob, debt, whatever. It's a very interesting theory because you certainly could believe it.
There's been movies written about, like that. But the punch really go.
I mean, I know a lot of you probably looked at it. Really, really look at it.
He fell awkwardly. I don't know, man.
And Muhammad Ali would have probably beat him anyway. But maybe he just didn't want to be in there for 10 rounds, 12 rounds, actually getting hit.
Not saying it's true, but that is my number three. Sonny, you know, those guys back in the day, you know, those guys back in the day were up to some shenanigans outside the boxing match.
I just said, I don't know. Let's go watch raging bull.
Let's go. It's raging bull.
All right. Uh, so this one was tough for me.
Number three, you're going to hate me for this. I'm going the bloody sock, Kurt Schilling, 2004, game six.
Okay. I have a little quote here.
Baltimore Orioles play-by-play announcer Gary Thorne suggests that the red material on Kurt Schilling's sock during game two of the 2004 World Series was, in fact, paint, not not blood the media runs wild with the story and everybody thinks it's ketchup and all this stuff but in fact he was dealing with an ankle injury remember that back in the day oh do i remember it i lived through that game that game was brutal i do enjoy this one because it brings on a lot of interesting debate number one you have an have an ankle injury. Why the fuck is your ankle bleeding? Did you cut your ankle? He had sutures in his ankle.
That's the whole thing. From surgery or he needed stitches? From something from, I think, whatever, from some tendon deal.
Okay, but Matt, if you have sutures, great use of the word sutures, by the way. You could have just said stitches, but you went sutures.
I fucking love it. Wouldn't you also properly wrap the...
You have professionals of every medical level. Wouldn't you wrap it properly so the blood doesn't soak through to your...
Well, dude, this is the whole conspiracy. Maybe it wasn't blood.
Maybe it was just a big theatrical moment. Why?

Is it because it's a win-win?

Like if you win the game, you're a hero.

You pitched and won for the Red Sox through blood.

By the way, he pitched his ass off that game.

He won the game.

Yeah, but if you lose, you could say,

I don't want to blame injuries.

But then basically the bloody sock is your-

Dude, talk about eating on the-

I mean, you had a hot dog with ketchup on the sideline

and spilled on the sock.

I don't know.

That's a wonky one for I just remember that. I remember that story, obviously the fabrication of what it was, but I remember like the bloody sock.
It was like the, it was like, it was like a guy playing with like a broken arm and football or something. It was like, Oh my God.
Like, dude, it's a bloody sock, bro. I mean, you shoot that, you shoot that thing up and you go, all right.
You ready for my number two? Yeah.

I'm- Dude, it's a bloody sock, bro. I mean, you shoot that thing up and you go, all right.

You ready for my number two?

Yeah.

I'm going with the Ravens Niners blackout.

Now, I remember well where I was when that happened.

I remember who I was watching it with. I do remember the momentum of the game switching.

I never fully bought into the conspiracy of it in the time until, just to make it more fun, several interviews with Ray Lewis and Terrell Suggs after the game. Like Terrell Suggs said, yeah, Goodell's up to his shit again.
It's like, what does that mean? How does a billion-dollar stadium lose outage in a Super Bowl? But that could be, you know, freak things could happen. But I guess coming off the Beyonce concert, and also how do you know pulling the power out, though, is going to galvanize the 49ers to play better? Because the Ravens had the game.
But either way, it led to a much more competitive game. I just think you have Beyonce in that.
You have the app, the players actually commenting and anytime, you know, we got Goodell in there too. It's a great one.
That's my number two. That's a really fun, almost modern one.
Yeah. Um, no, I remember that one.
All right. Number two, I'm going back 2002 Western conference finals.
Oh, I know where you L it. Lakers, Kings.
By the way, real quick, that was like my childhood. So I was 19, like the Kobe Shaq era, the battles with the Kings, man.
They were with Chris Weber and they had, who else did they have? Doug Christie, they had Bibby. Doug Christie, Mike Bibby.
Great team, great team. Those were battles, Spurs back in the day.
Peja, right? Was it Peja? Peja Stojakovic. Lakers trailed the Kings 3-2 in the series going into the fourth quarter of game six.
The Lakers, guess how many free throws the Lakers shot? I don't have to guess. In the fourth quarter.
In the fourth quarter. I promise I didn't look this up.
I remember. I had to look this up.
I remember from when it happened. It was 27, from when it happened 27 wasn't it 27 27 i didn't even look that up and the whole and the whole conspiracy is that you want the lakers in the finals and obviously that kind of stuff right um years later then we talk about uh tim donahy you know who resigned and later admitted to gambling on nba games and that whole thing, which is an incredible documentary too.

He suggested that the conspiracy was real,

noting that he heard a game had been fixed that matched

the description of the playoff game.

Just murky territory back then.

And I hate saying that for my Lakers, but I mean, listen, it's happened.

I don't know.

27 free throws in the fourth quarter, down 3-2 in the series against the yeah that's pretty crazy one day I would love to you know we always get asked and we even ask some people like you know who would you love to play golf with or have a drink with I would love to well or just get one of these commissioners post career where they're old enough, where they don't really care. And maybe they like to drink still.
You have a couple of pops and he's like, yeah, let me tell you about 2002. Let me tell you about Spygate real quick.
You want to know what was on the tapes that I destroyed? Which is another great one. I didn't go with that one because we don't actually, no one ever had a concrete theory as to what else was on those tapes.

That was so damning, but that would be an honorable mention for me. All right, I guess it's time for my number one.
Now, prefacing this to our audience, there's a universal number one. I'm going to trust that you're going to do it because you're my co-host and I feel like I'm going to test our chemistry right now.
I'm not going to say the universal number one. I'm going to trust that you're going to do it because you're my co-host, and I feel like I'm going to test our chemistry right now.
I'm not going to say the universal number one, but I'm going to go- For people listening, I don't know what you're- Yeah, I don't know. I just have to believe you're going to do this.
No, no, but we don't go over this before. I have no idea what you're going to say.
No, I'm winging it, and I have to go with my Knicks because this is a favorite one, and we're sticking with basketball, David stirred that the frozen envelope. Yeah.
First of all, scientifically, can that happen? Can you make an envelope cold enough? So someone puts their hand in and it's just to the touch. Like, Oh, that's the one I've studied the tape.
I don't really see any fishing around. I feel like there's easier ways to rig that if you want to, but anyway, yeah, they basically rigged the lottery so the Knicks get the number one pick knowing they had Patrick Ewing waiting.
What a time because you would think they would have rigged the lottery. No disrespect to our Spurs, but there's other franchises that definitely have a bigger market that could have used Wemby.
So I put that theory to the test. Why didn't they do it with Wemby? Maybe it's too hard now.
That's a favorite one. The NBA lottery to me still is weird.
Like the balls and all that kind of stuff. Even, even, yeah, I don't even get it anymore.
I don't follow it. Just show me who gets it.
I'm going to trust that you did it. But something fun to explore one day is like, yeah, obviously they want ratings and big markets, but to rig a lottery for Patrick queuing, I don't know.
That's a rough one to believe, but it's a fun one. I love people who hang on to it.
Now let's see if I know my boy. All right.
Allegedly. Allegedly.
I like where you're going. I'm trying to pull.
Okay. Cal Ripken Jr.
The best one ever. 2,632 consecutive games over the span of 16 seasons, which will never be broken.
Okay. He broke Lou Gehrig's record September 6, 1995.
Let's take it. There's some shenanigans that may or may not have happened prior to that.
The conspiracy theory may or may not have happened on August 14, 1997. Okay, remember his active streak was in jeopardy and there happened to be a power outage at the home field.
So he wasn't going to play the game. Right.
He wasn't going to play the game, but why? Well, I mean, we can read into it, but you know, there let's say the rumor, Matt. I feel like you don't want to say it.
I feel like you don't want to say it. It's a rumor.
The rumor is Kevin Costner. The rumor is Kevin Costner was shooting a movie, baseball, which he's, he was a baseball player.
He played in a lot of some of the most iconic baseball movies. He may or may not have relations with Kyle Ripken's wife.
And Kyle Ripken was pissed. He was heated.
He wasn't going to show up for the game. I'm fucking over it.
I'm not playing. I got other things on my mind.
And all of a sudden, the lights go out. Power We can't conveniently, conveniently.
I'm just saying that rumor has been around a long time. So yeah, I, I don't mean to be so like hyper excited to talk about this.
Cause if it caused any pain to the Ripken family or the Costner's apologies. So we're not trying to laugh at your pain.
Cause's not funny. But just as a conspiracy theory.
And by the way, they've both talked about it publicly and denied. Kevin Costner called into a radio station, I think, in like 02 and was basically saying like, why? There's other ways to cancel a game.
It's bullshit. Blah, blah, blah.
I just the holes I want to poke in it as a theory. Okay.
He catches his wife. It's probably not true.
I'd say it's probably 88% not true. Although some have said otherwise, but now the thing that I never fully understood was, are you not playing Mr.
Ripken because you're emotionally distraught? Some have said it was, um, a fight broke out and he hurt his hand. But if he hurt his hand, how do you know he's only out one game? So he hurt his hand.
He knew, all right, we got to cancel this game, but I'll be back the next night when we play. So I don't know if it was that, but if you were emotionally distraught, listen, I get it.
If it were me, Matt, and I came home and I found my lovely wife in that act while I have what will arguably be an unbreakable streak going, even though I'm emotionally distraught, I'm still playing in that. You're going to be like, listen.
You're not taking the marriage and the streak. Listen, I have to have one.
I'm going to deal with you later. I'm about to go break this record real quick.
I have to have one of those. And I have to leave the game in the third inning because the stomach flu.
There's a million other easier ways that it could have been done. But still, there's a podcast called The Rumor.
I'm not forgetting the host's name, shout outs. There's like a six episode podcast that just breaks down this conspiracy theory.
Dude, yeah, that's a wild one. It's a wild one.
We'll never have the answer. I know some people have said, oh yeah, it happened.
I know other people are saying that's a ridiculous thing to think happened. That would be my number one too.
Again, I'm just saying most of these stadiums, arenas, I mean, they do pay their electric bill. I don't know.
So we have two conspiracy theories that involve the power going out dude those are good well there's some other good ones yeah let us know what else we glossed over a few let us know yours at throwback show on social media we're gonna wrap up now uh that was a good show because now i have to go stress out for uh 24 hours until the world starts. I'm still on a high from Swish.
Shout out to Swish for joining us. Yes.
Yeah, dude, it's on. Dodgers, Yankees.
Should we make a bet? I mean, I got a lot of bets with you already. Yeah, what do you want to do? Let's take that to social.
We'll post it. We'll take that to social.
So look for us on social. We have a little bet going I already have a few ideas I don't want you embarrassing yourself I want something out of this Maybe a Juju signed jersey Maybe you got USC connections Jerry, I wore a leprechaun outfit On Big Noon kickoff last year Because SC For the whole for the whole A block for eight straight minutes, dude.

Full character, full costume because I lost a bet. I will do

whatever. I have no shame.

I don't care. Let's take it to

social media.

Good luck to your Dodgers, even though I don't

really mean it. Thank you, everybody, for listening.

Thank you to everyone behind the scenes.

Show's growing.

Shout-outs against Swisher, and we'll see you next week.

Peace.