The Reality TV Jets, Top 3 Sports Video Games and Max Greenfield on the Knicks, Meeting Luka & More!

Speaker 1 Oh my god, Luca's warming up. This security guard comes over to us.
When you see him come to the free throw line, he's gonna make a beeline to like the

Speaker 1 gate or whatever, the tunnel. And he's like, just get ready.
And so he comes through. And I don't know what I turned into,

Speaker 1 but all I don't like, I don't even remember this happening, but it definitely did happen. Luca, Luca, Luca.

Speaker 3 All right, everybody, welcome to another episode of Throwbacks. Thank you, everybody.

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Speaker 3 Because as Matt and I like to say, we actually will respond to you on social media, not not ignore you, even though you listen to our show.

Speaker 3 Now, Matt,

Speaker 3 real quick, we got a good show for everybody today. I can't stop saying something on Twitter that pisses people off.
And I'm not doing this on purpose. I'm not trying to be Skip Bayless reincarnated.

Speaker 2 Well, it's because

Speaker 2 you're on Twitter way too much.

Speaker 3 Is that true? Would you say as a friend, I'm on Twitter too much?

Speaker 2 I would say the days that if it's NFL Sunday or if there's basketball going on, what I'm noticing about you is that

Speaker 2 you get real heavy fingers on some of these certain days of the week.

Speaker 2 Now that it's playoff baseball and NFL Sunday, you just can't help yourself. So naturally, the more you tweet,

Speaker 2 the more controversy you're going to.

Speaker 3 Now, why can't you ask?

Speaker 3 I know Twitter is

Speaker 2 in a lot of ways.

Speaker 3 You know, I watched the Yankees beat. you know, beat Kansas City, move on to the next round, the ALCS, which is a great accomplishment.
But then, and I knew this, I watched baseball.

Speaker 3 I know every team celebrates after a round, but this particular round, and maybe it's because it's the Yankees, when they're spraying each other in beer and champagne, I'm like, you guys got to win eight more games.

Speaker 3 You're not even, you're a third of the way through the playoff run. But it was their third champagne bath in three weeks.

Speaker 2 For the Yankees?

Speaker 3 For the Yankees.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but is that, but is that, but is that because you're just a Yankees fan and you're just, you're tired of being let down? And you just like, hey, focus.

Speaker 3 Yes and no. I guess it is the Kobe fan and me, and you could relate to this too.
With like the hey, you're up 3-1, job's not finished, nothing to be happy about. You don't see it in any other sport.

Speaker 3 Do you pop champagne if you get to the NFC championship game?

Speaker 2 No, but this is baseball, though. I mean, this is like a tradition in baseball where they wear the ski goggles and they pop the champagne and they pour the beer every round.

Speaker 3 And when you clinch a playoff spot and when you win the division, every season.

Speaker 2 By the way, when you crown 9,000 games in a season,

Speaker 3 that's that's where you lose me. Because I'm going to go to a famous quote by John Hamm from the show Mad Men.
That's what the money's for. You play 162 games.
Yes, it's a grind.

Speaker 3 You don't get to see your family. It's a shit ton of work.
That's what the money's for, isn't it?

Speaker 2 Listen, man, look, I don't care as much. If they want to celebrate, I've been so let down by my Dodgers over the years that I don't care.
If you want to celebrate an NL West championship, go for it.

Speaker 2 If you want to celebrate an NLCS, go for it.

Speaker 2 I will be personally celebrating when we win a World Series. That's it.
I'm not celebrating until that.

Speaker 3 Well, we might have to ask at the end of the show to have a poll because this got me to a lot of trouble. Really good show for you today.

Speaker 3 Joining us later is one of my best friends in the world, an actor, also a great sports fan, Max Greenfield. You know him from New Girl.
You know him from the show The Neighborhood.

Speaker 3 He's in like 40 other movies and he also wrote a, wrote quite a few children's books.

Speaker 2 You're going to love him.

Speaker 3 I predict you guys are going to be friends. I just predict.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I feel like we're going to be friends. And I think it's how you guys met and your guys' stories is awesome.
I'm excited to hear him. And,

Speaker 2 you know, he's a dad. He's kind of

Speaker 2 what a legend, dude. Just writing books, a couple hit TV shows.

Speaker 2 A lot of good.

Speaker 2 A lot to unpack there.

Speaker 3 He's one of my favorite friends.

Speaker 2 He's one of my friends.

Speaker 3 Big video game guy. But when something goes down with the Knicks or the Giants or the Dodgers, even,

Speaker 3 he's who I call to unpack stuff. You know, you have that friend who you like to unpack stuff with.

Speaker 3 That's, that's max and then later because you know now we really made this throwback three a thing you know i think i came up with a good topic for this week i'm gonna tease it right now we're gonna do our throwback three all-time sports video games okay sports has to be sports so i'm curious to hear yours you know what we've both done a lot of tv and stuff like this and had to do a lot this was the hardest thing i've ever had to do i i i'm still debating on my top three.

Speaker 3 So it's not even a finalized list yet.

Speaker 2 It's going to be final when we talk about it.

Speaker 2 I'm just going to go with my gut. I'm going to go with my heart.
I'm going to go with what brings me back to my childhood. But there's so many to choose from, but it's a great topic, dude.

Speaker 2 I'll give you that.

Speaker 3 Well, being that you are also one of my unpacking friends, but we do it on this podcast.

Speaker 3 I definitely thought of you and was, we were texting in our group chat when the Devontae Adams trade went down. New York has got a whole bunch of stuff going on in general.

Speaker 3 But coming off that loss, my immediate question I wanted to ask you was:

Speaker 3 you know, we saw that last interception. Mike Williams slips, falls down.
Did he run the wrong route from what you saw? I know Rogers said that in the press conference.

Speaker 3 And then, what does that feel like as a quarterback when you get the INT, that's going on your record, but the guy ran the wrong route?

Speaker 2 I would say

Speaker 2 generally,

Speaker 2 I don't even say most of the time, but I would say half of,

Speaker 2 I don't want to put a percentage because I'm going to get crushed for this. Let's just say half.
Okay, let's just say half.

Speaker 2 I would say half of quarterbacks' interceptions stem from something that particularly might not be their fault. And what do I mean by that? Maybe

Speaker 2 an offensive line. And I'm not throwing anyone under the bus.
I'm just saying this is, this is what happens.

Speaker 2 In general, when you watch the film, like I'm going to lean towards Aaron Rodgers, clearly in this one, because he's not, and he broke down the exact play, what he was supposed to do.

Speaker 2 He's supposed to run an in cut as he went to throw. Mike clearly went the opposite way, and it screwed up Aaron Rodgers, and he underthrew it.

Speaker 2 And you can kind of tell now once he breaks it down, you're like, oh, okay, that's like he doesn't miss a guy that badly.

Speaker 2 Most of the time, there's a lot of times where receivers might.

Speaker 2 run the wrong route. They might not get the right depth.
That's the biggest thing because in the NFL, you might not talk about details and all this. Depth of a route is the most important thing.

Speaker 2 so an in-breaking route let's just say it's it's 12 to 15 and go to 12 yards to 15 yards and come across if a guy runs it 10 to 12 yards and comes across our timing is off and that allows for a defensive back to either jump cut it knock it down or be in the position because we're getting the ball out.

Speaker 2 Football is all timing. So you're throwing the ball, you've seen it a million times, you're throwing the ball before a receiver even looks, right? Because you're throwing it to a spot.

Speaker 2 You're throwing it to where they're supposed to be.

Speaker 2 And that's what Rodgers is doing in that moment. He's done that.
I mean, quarterbacks, we've done that a million times.

Speaker 2 But in real time, the blame falls on the quarterback, which is, which it always does. And that's fine.

Speaker 2 But given the situation in New York and Robert Sala gets fired, and now you have Devontae Adams' name floating around for weeks. You have Mike Williams running the wrong route.

Speaker 2 Aaron Rodgers is a pissed off dude right now. Like, I can understand.
Like, I don't look at his throwing the bus. He's like, listen, like, this is where I was, where I expected him to be.

Speaker 2 It wasn't there. I threw a pick and we lost.
Like, that's, that's the bottom line.

Speaker 3 Do you think, uh,

Speaker 3 how do I say this? Cause like, there, I think the Jets have other problems than just receiver, but who am I? You know, I'm just a fan, right?

Speaker 3 Obviously, Devontae Adams is an upgrade, but we haven't really seen Devontae Adams be one, healthy and two, effective because the team was so bad with the Raiders. So, Jerry, let's be honest.

Speaker 2 Devontae's been healthy. He has not been playing.
I don't want to, I, I, I, I, you say

Speaker 2 he has a business decision, dude.

Speaker 2 By the way, you don't think he and Aaron Rodgers have been texting every day the past month? Don't worry, bro. I'll get you here.
Don't worry. Just

Speaker 2 keep nursing that hammy, okay?

Speaker 2 He wasted three years of his career in Oakland or in Vegas, and now he gets to.

Speaker 2 Does it, does it, like, now the question is, does it make them the super bowl? They're all in, right? They're all in. Well, one, they're all in.
They can't be more all in. Which you got to credit.

Speaker 2 Woody Johnson, you got to credit their,

Speaker 2 you know, upstairs. But look, you can't, you can't teach chemistry, and those guys were doing it for a long time at the highest level.

Speaker 2 And when you're on the same page and you just, you just have that connection. You know, Brady had it with Gronk and Edelman all those years.
And Mahomes and Kelsey is a perfect example.

Speaker 2 Sometimes you just got it with the guy that you know that they're, one, they're they're as good as you know, Devontae Adams, a Hall of Famer, and now you put him on the other side of Garrett Wilson, who we know is outstanding.

Speaker 2 They just haven't been able to get anything going. It just, it just, it, it makes them much more difficult to defend.
Now, does it make them, you know, hey, they're going to win the Super Bowl?

Speaker 2 No, but

Speaker 2 I'll tell you what, it makes them a lot better. And I think it gives Aaron Rodgers more comfort in this offense.

Speaker 3 And has anyone benefited more from Aaron Rodgers being a New York jet than Pat McAfee?

Speaker 3 That reveal, I gotta say, that was sick.

Speaker 2 I'm not gonna lie. I watched it like 10 times.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I think of things like I watch sports and consume it for the story. I really do.
Like, I love stats and I love talking to you about the ins and outs of X's and O's, but I want the story.

Speaker 3 The reveal of Devontae Adams was straight out of an HBO show.

Speaker 2 That was perfect. Again, it goes back to like those guys, like they knew, they knew it was going to happen.
They knew it was going to happen. And then losing the way they did,

Speaker 2 Aaron's like, dude, we got to change something. My boy is out there.
My boy is out there. And

Speaker 3 anyway, yeah. I think it's happening whether Mike Williams went the wrong route and falls down or not.
He was there the next day.

Speaker 2 For sure. Oh, he probably.
Yeah. He was probably having dinner.
He was probably at Aaron's house the night before after the night after they lost. Listen, it's a wild.

Speaker 3 It is the best reality show on TV right now, I think, is the New York Jets, in my opinion.

Speaker 2 I want to ask you about New York in general. Speaking of New York,

Speaker 2 you know, you no longer live there, but you're a New Yorker.

Speaker 2 You think about the Mets, the Yankees, you think about the Liberty and the WNBA. Obviously, shout out to them.
They got a squad.

Speaker 2 The Jets, Saga, the Giants, obviously you're diehard.

Speaker 2 What is the buzz like in New York right now?

Speaker 2 Because it's one of my favorite cities ever ever to go to, especially this time of the year.

Speaker 3 Yeah, there is nothing better. And again, I'm not in New York these days nearly as much.
I do still go a lot.

Speaker 2 And my mom and brother

Speaker 2 are still there.

Speaker 3 I always judge it on how my group chats are with all my sports buddies. And I actually have to turn my phone off at night now because sports are going so late with baseball at night.

Speaker 3 But I know Major League Baseball is probably not hoping for Mets Yankees. They probably want Mets Dodgers.
I mean, Yankees, Dodgers. But as far as

Speaker 3 another Subway series,

Speaker 3 that would be so intense that I don't even know if I could. I mean, I'll watch, but I might be watching like a scary movie with one eye closed because the Mets stuff was cute.

Speaker 3 Meaning, for me, saying like, oh, I want the Mets to beat the Phillies.

Speaker 3 I ran my mouth saying I hate Philly fans more than Met fans, but I'll tell you what, the thought of losing to the Mets in a World Series, that's terrifying because those Met fans will never, ever stop talking about that ever.

Speaker 3 It will never go away. That's on the record.
That's almost worse than the Red Sox beating the Yankees in 04 the way.

Speaker 2 So are you, are you a, are you a, if they go to the World Series, whether it's Yankees, Dodgers, Yankees, Mets, are you a, I got to get to a World Series game in New York? Or are you,

Speaker 2 hey, I'm going to watch it with my boys on the couch. And it just, I mean, there's totally two different experiences, but I feel like there's two schools of thought.

Speaker 2 Because when the Dodgers are in the World Series, I always try to say, like, I want to go to one game. It's right down the street.

Speaker 2 But I'm also like, man, it's kind of nice to watch it on the couch and, you know, with whoever.

Speaker 3 You know, I've been to a bunch of Yankee playoff games. I've never been to a World Series game throughout that run in the 90s and early 2000s.

Speaker 3 There was no chance I was really getting in that stadium and definitely didn't have the money to buy a ticket. So if they're in the World Series, I'm going.

Speaker 3 But I'll tell you what, another argument, controversial argument I had on this show, even with Dontrell Willis, was so I'm going Thursday night and tonight and Friday night Yankees Guardians in Cleveland

Speaker 3 and let me tell you Matt if that game was last night I might not have gone because it was 38 degrees

Speaker 3 freezing hailing rain in and out for the night it I cannot think of a worse experience to go watch a damn basically it would have felt like a Browns game well I can and honestly what's worse than that what's worse than that is is how come your wife has your boys in Cleveland Guardian hats oh it's over for me it's what are we what are we doing And, you know, I might have to ask Max this later in the show, too, because he's raising his kids in L.A., but he's a New York dude as well.

Speaker 3 What am I doing?

Speaker 2 Here's how that went down.

Speaker 3 Game's about to start. I said, you know, I want the kids to watch some baseball, even if it's on in the background.
Let them see it. I put it on.

Speaker 3 And right away, my kids are like, oh, where's my Guardians hat? Because they got a Guardians hat from last year. I'm like, well, son, they're playing the Yankees from New York.
That's what dad's from.

Speaker 3 They're like, Dad, we're Guardians fans.

Speaker 2 Well, that's your fault.

Speaker 2 That is your fault.

Speaker 3 Well, also, it's because last year I threw out the first pitch at a Guardians game and they came on the field with me, and that's what they saw.

Speaker 2 So it's over.

Speaker 3 So I think I'm okay with it. I think I'm okay with the Guardians fan thing.

Speaker 3 I got to figure out if I'm okay with my kids being like Browns fans and Knicks fans because that could be a lifetime of sports therapy that they might need.

Speaker 2 I don't know, man. I don't know how I feel about that.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 They're trolling too. They know they're busting.

Speaker 2 They know the wife is trolling you on Instagram. Like, I'm just like, I'm like, oh, man, if my, like, there's a UCLA t-shirt in one of my boys' drawers.

Speaker 2 And, you know, I get them, help them, get them dressed for school. And

Speaker 2 the minute that thing ever, I don't throw it away because, like, you know, Josie's like, ah, it's stupid. Just keep it in there.
But if they ever come down in that, that will be taken off.

Speaker 2 Go back and shoot it. Go right back in the drawer and go pick out a different shirt.
The same with like clippers.

Speaker 2 The only non Dodger Laker jersey that we have in the house is a well, this is going to kill you, actually,

Speaker 2 big Poppy Boston Red Sox jersey.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 my wife's father, who passed away a while ago, was a die-hard Red Sox fan. Okay, so that's a connection to that.
That was a connection that we got him.

Speaker 2 He wanted a Red Sox jersey, and I'm like, you know what? That is okay. Yeah.

Speaker 2 That was your Poppy's team, and you can have that. And he'll rock it every once in a while.
That's it. But that's all we got, man.

Speaker 2 We got Dodgers, we got Lakers, and we got some old liner Cardinal jerseys in there.

Speaker 3 Well, to answer your question before we get back into football, what a time to be in sports radio in New York.

Speaker 3 All the dudes at WFAA could yell at each other and yell at fans, and Michael, everyone could just go back to yelling, except it's actual playoff games you're yelling about and not something else.

Speaker 3 So, yeah, good luck. Subway series would be absolutely terrifying.
So, I wanted to toy with something with football here.

Speaker 3 And speaking of sports media and stuff,

Speaker 3 this is a fantastic sports football quote, but sports in general. And a lot of people use this quote to end an argument almost.

Speaker 3 I'm going to end this sports debate because Bill Parcells said, you are what your record says you are. It's true.
Great quote when he said it.

Speaker 3 It is true, but I want to get in the lane of on Thinking about it the other way.

Speaker 3 What teams in the NFL right now are not what your record says you are because that is a thing too i mean parcels is the best quotable quote machine but is that real is that really true at this point with football because i asked you to make a little bit of a list or pick a team and i have one here

Speaker 2 but

Speaker 2 this is what you don't understand you know how hard it is to win games in the nfl of course so if like it is hard like it is really hard to win nfl games yes so if a team is 5-0 and, and again, we can

Speaker 2 jobs as an analyst are to break down. Okay, well, you beat this team and they didn't really beat this team.
At that level, dude, it doesn't matter. So I think it's funny.

Speaker 2 Like, I want to hear your team, but like, okay, so

Speaker 2 I mean, we're going to go Vikings. You want to go Vikings? I know you're saying that.
No,

Speaker 3 I think the Vikings are 5-0. I think they've been the best team in the league so far.
I have no problem with the Vikings being 5-0.

Speaker 3 Because they've also outplayed,

Speaker 3 they've convincingly won four of the five games for the most part. So I have no problem with what the Vikings are doing.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 who's a team that you think, okay, they got a good record, but they're

Speaker 2 a fraud?

Speaker 3 You might not. Look, this is a sensitive one because there is some delightful stuff coming from this team.
I can't look at the Washington Commanders at 4-2

Speaker 3 and say, yeah, that's a 4-0 team. That's the leader in the clubhouse in the NFC East right now in pole position to win that division.
I think Jayten Daniels is unbelievable.

Speaker 3 I think for the next 10 years, they're fantastic.

Speaker 3 I think they have some wins that are.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 they've beaten the Bucs.

Speaker 2 No, they lost the Bucs.

Speaker 2 Oh, they lost to the Bucs.

Speaker 3 They lost to the Bucs week one. They beat the Giants.

Speaker 3 I get it.

Speaker 3 What you're saying is right. You won an NFL football game.
So that's the point.

Speaker 2 Okay, so

Speaker 3 they didn't score a touchdown in that game.

Speaker 2 and so they'd scored the bucks they beat the giants they beat the bengals they beat the game they beat the bengals which uh that is no that's not in their four in their four wins they're they're winning by an average of almost 19 points that is wild whether it was the bengals they won by five but the cardinals they absolutely they blew out the cards

Speaker 3 The Cardinals got born out by the Packers again. They played the Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 2 They played a damn good team and the Baltimore Ravens pretty close.

Speaker 3 Pretty close. But that's my team.
That's my, you are not what your record says you are.

Speaker 2 Oh, I disagree. I think that team is a playoff team.
And I think whether or not Jaden Dan is a rookie or not, he makes them very dangerous. Like defenses do not want to play that guy.

Speaker 2 Telling you, man.

Speaker 3 And that defensive. Do you have a team

Speaker 3 that your record is not what it says you are?

Speaker 2 I'm still kind of on the Steelers. And,

Speaker 2 you know, they're 4-2. And Mike Talman is great.
And again, a lot of chatter about Russell Wilson this week.

Speaker 2 I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 2 I don't know. You're losing me with that.

Speaker 2 I don't know how I feel about it. Well, you think Fields, right?

Speaker 3 I think you got stick with Fields.

Speaker 2 How do you not?

Speaker 2 Well, plus,

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 we can't get enamored. The thing is, we get enamored by numbers and stats and all this.
It's like they don't throw the ball. It doesn't matter what he brings in the run game.

Speaker 2 Like, you completely take that away. And Russ is a Hall of Fame guy, and I get that, but you take that away from what is working for them now.

Speaker 2 And Russ is Russ moves around, but all that, but it's just a different offense. And at four and two,

Speaker 2 man, I don't know.

Speaker 3 Is Russ Hall of Fame? Is that a dumb question?

Speaker 2 I mean, won a bowl.

Speaker 2 You won a Super Bowl. You play for 10 years, 12 years.
Yeah, I think he's Hall of Fame. All right.

Speaker 3 Well, then that's great for my guy, Eli, too. Oh, Eli.

Speaker 2 He's a first ballot Hall of Famer.

Speaker 3 Well, I love people.

Speaker 3 We won't do the Eli.

Speaker 2 People think he doesn't deserve to be in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 Well, his regular season stuff is.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but he went on the great, he two bulls.

Speaker 3 Oh, you're not going to convince me. I'll put him in.
All right.

Speaker 3 So if I hear you on the Steelers, because that's going to bring me to the next thing here, when we always do our what team needs to win the most this weekend in the NFL, for me, it's the Jets.

Speaker 3 for all the things we just said. And also, could you believe, again, talking about the TV show that is the New York Jets, they're playing playing on Sunday night after this trade.

Speaker 3 It's insane to go from Monday night to Sunday night. And it's versus the Steelers.

Speaker 2 That's a good game.

Speaker 3 That's a good game. They have to win.
They cannot go two and five after putting in all the chips for Adams. They can't go two and five.

Speaker 2 It's hard because the matchups this week, I was kind of staying in the future. Good matchups, too.
Yeah, I was staying in the NFC East.

Speaker 2 I was going to go Eagles playing your Giants. And honestly, I didn't do that on purpose.

Speaker 2 No, it's okay.

Speaker 2 Just with the Siriani stuff kind of this week and,

Speaker 2 you know, like

Speaker 2 Philly's tough, man. And they're three and two, but you lose to the Giants.
And then we just talked about the commanders who in first. Dallas.
They need it. Like, they just need it because Dallas.

Speaker 2 I don't know how good Dallas is or not. And I know they got their ass kicked last week, but like they're desperate.
Like there's a lot of teams that are just desperate. And the Eagles,

Speaker 2 there's a fascination about the Philadelphia Eagles and this coach and

Speaker 2 if they're good or not. And I just feel like you get to four and two, you're sitting in a good spot.

Speaker 2 You're either one game out of first place or you're tied with the, you know, the commanders. So I'm going to go with the Eagles playing your Giants.

Speaker 3 Well, I'm with you on that because here's how I'll word it. I think they need a convincing win.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And the Giants were now without Andrew Thomas for the rest of the season, which is horrible for Giant fans. They just need to blow the Giants out.

Speaker 2 I was going to say, are you just, I mean,

Speaker 2 we're over the Giants at this point. It's over.

Speaker 3 We don't even need to, and all those things we talked about with New York. Notice we didn't really mention the Giants as the Knicks are going to basically tip off next week as well.

Speaker 3 The Giants, we don't need to talk.

Speaker 2 So do you not watch the Giants the rest of the season or you just kind of have them in the background?

Speaker 3 I'm officially on the red zone now.

Speaker 2 You're on red zone. I'm on the red zone.

Speaker 3 And then on my laptop, I'll have like a specific game, depending on who I bet that week,

Speaker 3 which, by the way, I caught caught a rough beat with that Allen touchdown in the Jets game getting called back. That crushed like a seven-like parlay.
All right, we're going to now segue.

Speaker 3 We're going to go. We're going to bring Max on in a minute.
But first, we are going to do, it's time for my favorite part of the show, my favorite segment.

Speaker 3 We're going to do the can't get enough sauce moment of the week, brought to you, everybody, by Wendy's. This is where we highlight a player who we feel is just, we can't get enough of.

Speaker 2 I don't know if you're going to like mine.

Speaker 2 Mine is so off the wall.

Speaker 3 It's so random, but I don't know if you're going to like mine. Do you know the name Jordan Mott? Does that name ring a bell to you? Okay.

Speaker 3 He's not a football player, but he's the dude, the Penn State fan that paid the money.

Speaker 2 He ran the USC

Speaker 3 with USC.

Speaker 2 I don't know how I feel about that.

Speaker 3 That's on your school.

Speaker 2 They should have a school. Yeah, no, no, wait.
Well, I feel a whole lot of emotions about my school right now. And then I'm on our big noon chat and they sent that to the chat.

Speaker 2 USC paying, what, $1,500 to any fan to run the team out? And I'm thinking, like,

Speaker 2 what are we doing? Like, can't we pay $1,500 to our collective to go get a kid or something? Like, what are we doing?

Speaker 3 In the story I read, it said they were like, oh, we've never had an opposing fan one.

Speaker 2 Did you know shit?

Speaker 3 What did you think was going to happen?

Speaker 2 Dude, what did you think?

Speaker 3 And to the point where I think USC has changed some of the rules of how that goes down. So Jordan Mott, that was, I mean, that was spicy ghost pepper right there.

Speaker 3 Dude, by the way, that nug in the spicy ghost pepper and enjoy.

Speaker 2 More power to him, dude. I mean, the balls that takes and then to do it, then the win.
All right.

Speaker 3 Saucy. Saucy.

Speaker 2 I'm going with

Speaker 2 Mark Davis.

Speaker 2 I know.

Speaker 2 Okay. Let's hear it.

Speaker 2 Take the case.

Speaker 2 Owner of our Vegas Raiders.

Speaker 3 Yeah, sure.

Speaker 2 A USC Trojan. I did play for Oakland Raiders my last year, so I know Mark.
Love the guy. Okay.

Speaker 2 Little quirky, little out there, but loves his team.

Speaker 2 And his quote was, which I thought was absolutely awesome, traded Devontae Adams for Tom Brady in the third round pick because Tom now just got approved by all of the NFL owners to be a minority owner in the Las Vegas Raiders.

Speaker 2 I thought it was just kind of one of those things where like you have a disgruntled player, you know, you paid him a lot of money. He's out.
What a flex to be.

Speaker 2 Well, I just traded you for Tom Brady, who now is an owner of the team with me. Saucy.
I was like,

Speaker 2 that's saucy. That's saucy.
That's saucy. It just made me chuckle.
I was like,

Speaker 2 good on you, Mark Davis. You got a third-round pick.
You got rid of a player who was about to sit out the rest of the season anyway.

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Speaker 3 All right, coming back. He played one of the most iconic TV characters, in my opinion, of all time in the hit sitcom New Girl, Schmidt.
We all love Schmidt.

Speaker 3 He's the author of some very, very popular children's books, including his most recent one, which he sent to My Kids, Good Night Thoughts.

Speaker 3 And his current show, The Neighborhood, returns to CBS on October 21st for season seven, seven years. It's like a sports franchise at this point.
Uh, he's my good buddy, Max Greenfield, joining us.

Speaker 3 And also, he is who, he's my first phone call when something goes down with the Knicks.

Speaker 1 Can I tell you something? Not, can I tell you something? Not true. When you walk into Madison Square Guard, there's a different level of fame.
I'm like, is Jerry Leonard DiCaprio?

Speaker 1 And not even like, maybe that's a bad example. It's more like a pop star.
Like, people lose their shit.

Speaker 3 I'm Nick's famous. I'm Nick's famous.
Is there such thing as Nick's famous?

Speaker 2 Yeah, but in New York, no, it's a different thing.

Speaker 1 It surpasses even Nick's famous. It's something about, it's like Madison Square Garden famous, which is, by the way, kind of the coolest kind of famous.

Speaker 2 Legendary. I can't wait.
I can't wait to be your turtle, dude, when we said courtside. I'm just going to let whatever you need.

Speaker 1 Matt, I was a little bit like,

Speaker 1 you know, people recognize me. It's

Speaker 1 and uh

Speaker 1 and I was with Jerry. I was like, it'd be nice if anyone gave a shit.

Speaker 2 Well, just like, like, hey, by the way, I, I, I am on TV too.

Speaker 2 Listen, we're recording, so this is all staying in.

Speaker 3 Cause I, Matt, the other thing I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 I want a New York new girl crossover.

Speaker 3 Well, that's not true. Max is lying.
Number one, first thing, when Max and I get to the game, you know, you never know who you're going to sit next to, right? You could be sitting next to Chris Rock.

Speaker 3 You could be sitting next to Jerry Seinfeld, anybody.

Speaker 3 We get down there, and this is weeks before i mean aaron rodgers just joined the jets so they sit me and max next to aaron rogers and sauce gardner that was the foursome sitting courtside so obviously everyone's looking at him matt let me tell you before so we get to the game

Speaker 1 and you know jerry jerry's treated like a king there yeah and we go up to like this incredible like little lounge or whatever you don't know where you're sitting and we're in this lounge and all of these famous people people start rolling in.

Speaker 1 And Jerry has been going to these games forever while the Knicks were terrible.

Speaker 3 The Chris Duhan years.

Speaker 1 Nobody, nobody wanted to go to Knicks games. And Jerry was like the only one in this lounge forever.
And so we're sitting there and we're like eating.

Speaker 1 I'm as excited as I've ever been in my life because I've never been. And Jerry's like this.
It's usually not like this.

Speaker 1 There's so many people there. It's usually not like this.
This is not.

Speaker 1 And I can see, and I know Jerry for such a long time. He's such a good friend that I'm like, he's genuinely anxious right now

Speaker 1 and getting frustrated and aggravated. And at some point, he just whispers to me.
It's like this.

Speaker 1 Our feet better be touching wood.

Speaker 1 And I go, Jerry, wherever we're sitting, it's going to be great. This is playoff basketball.

Speaker 2 Oh, that is so good.

Speaker 1 We have a great team. This is so exciting.
He goes like this. I know, I know, I know.
Look, bro,

Speaker 1 I'm excited to be here. This is great.
But, like,

Speaker 1 I want to be touching. I want to be touching wood.

Speaker 2 This is a good Ferrari.

Speaker 2 Jerry, how pissed would you have been if you were like just second row?

Speaker 3 I would have been fine. There's no

Speaker 1 fifth row. He would not have been fine.
So they take us down and they're like walking us down. And we

Speaker 1 at some point, like, you know, make that turn onto the court. And Jerry just turns around and looks at me because I'm behind him, just like, oh my God, this is crazy.

Speaker 1 He's like, right, they hooked us up, bro.

Speaker 1 And they sit us right next to Aaron Rodgers and Sauce Gardner, and we were like this. Oh my god.

Speaker 2 It's on. That is great.
Did he talk?

Speaker 2 Do you talk shit to them?

Speaker 3 No,

Speaker 3 all I remember at Max back me up too with Rod. Like we, Rogers talked like deep NBA cuts basketball.
Like he was so locked in. It was Nick's Heat.
So it was two years ago, game three of the playoffs.

Speaker 3 No Jimmy Butler.

Speaker 2 He was locked in.

Speaker 3 And the Bucs.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Because he went deep on the Bucks.
I guess he was a big Bucs fan when he was out there.

Speaker 3 See, but Max is being coy, though, because he's saying he didn't get no

Speaker 3 love.

Speaker 3 We came down after halftime, and this is during a playoff game. And I see him talking to RJ Barrett.

Speaker 3 Max, I start sneaking pictures of Max just chatting it up with RJ Barrett, who is a big, was it New Girl, Max?

Speaker 1 Yes, right? I don't know. There was a couple 21-year-old girls who like work at

Speaker 1 they were excited. Everybody else was like,

Speaker 2 Jerry.

Speaker 2 I can't wait. I cannot wait for that night, man.
It's going to be just a random, random regular season game, but they're going to be fired up to see the CU. That's for sure.

Speaker 3 They're going to put you on the big screen, on the Jumbo Chan, man.

Speaker 2 Oh, we're going to show them the bush push. I'm going to wear my Brunson jersey.
I already told you.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Great.

Speaker 2 Max, what do you feel about grown men wearing jerseys?

Speaker 1 Got to be the right one.

Speaker 2 Got to be the right one.

Speaker 1 Got to be the right one. You got to know when to wear it.

Speaker 2 Okay, explain, though. Because

Speaker 2 I had this take a couple of weeks ago. It's got a lot of heat on it.
Oh, I got a lot of heat. And I, because then they started saying, well, we're gonna burn your effing jersey liner.
Screw you.

Speaker 2 I'm like, I'm just saying, when I see a grown 55-year-old guy walking down the street of the South Bay on a Saturday, just like, why? Like, it just, it just, it's just my, it's just weird to me.

Speaker 1 Well, look, I mean, certainly you have a different perspective than we do, as you are an actual athlete with an actual jersey

Speaker 1 that wore that wore one professionally for a living as a

Speaker 1 uniform.

Speaker 1 Jerry and I do not have that experience, but I would say, you know what?

Speaker 1 If you're in the South Bay and you're watching some dude

Speaker 1 on like a cruiser skateboard riding up toward Rock and he's got his Chargers jersey on, let that dude live.

Speaker 2 He's got his bag. I actually took a video.
I took a video.

Speaker 1 shades on. He's just cruising.
Let him live, man. I took a video.
DK Dobbins is going to have a big one this week.

Speaker 2 That's shit. I took a video of a guy last week walking.
I think I should have said, did I not send it to you, Jerry? I took a video of a guy. He's wearing a Packers jersey walking into a

Speaker 2 dentist appointment on like a Monday at like one o'clock in the afternoon. I was like, this is why.
This is what I'm talking about. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I know your kids, like if your kids wear one and they want you to wear one, I don't know. But I got roasted, dude.
Just roasted.

Speaker 3 Well, speaking of kids, Max, your boy, your son, Ozzy, big week in the Greenfield house. I saw it on the Graham.

Speaker 3 Now, a little context. How is this? Is he eight, nine?

Speaker 2 How old is Ozzy?

Speaker 3 Nine.

Speaker 3 He already waxed me in 2K when I went to your house that one time. He is in on basketball.
So, who did he meet this past week?

Speaker 1 It's a huge, huge day.

Speaker 1 We, so his favorite team somehow, and this is before they got really, really good.

Speaker 1 He, I think through 2K and through YouTube, he discovered Vince Carter. Oh, and nice.
And the version of Vince Carter that he latched on to

Speaker 1 was the Mavs era of Vince Carter.

Speaker 2 So random.

Speaker 1 He's an outside the box thinker.

Speaker 1 By the way, I read him. He got real into Vince Carter and I tried to introduce him to the book of basketball, Simmons book.
And we were like, you know what? Here's a great way to do it.

Speaker 1 Let's read the Vince Carter section. And then maybe we can, this will be like a fun, we can read like pages.
We'll read this book forever. It's like 100, it's like 1,000 pages.

Speaker 1 And so we went right to the Vince Carter section, and Simmons kills Vince Carter.

Speaker 1 And Ozzie got so mad. He goes, I don't ever want to read that book again.
And I tried to get him back into the book. And he goes, is that the one with Vince Carter? And I'm like,

Speaker 1 no. And he goes, I know it is.

Speaker 2 I don't want to read it.

Speaker 1 Anyway, so through that, he became a Mavs fan and then latched on, obviously, to Luca Donchich, who is his favorite player.

Speaker 1 He has made me buy him his like high school Tekka jersey.

Speaker 2 So good. Yeah, he has a Luca Tekka jersey

Speaker 1 because I can't figure out the sizing. We have one that's this small, like tiny, tiny.
We have one that fits me, which is like really nice, by the way, which

Speaker 1 probably will wear.

Speaker 1 And we can't can't figure it out. Anyway, so he finally gets like a Mavs

Speaker 1 Donchas jersey and they're playing

Speaker 1 the Clippers Monday night

Speaker 1 preseason, first preseason game in the Intuit Dome, which, by the way, let me tell you.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. What's the review of the Intuit Dome? What's the review?

Speaker 1 Home run.

Speaker 3 Really?

Speaker 2 Home run.

Speaker 1 Wow. That's big.
Mommer put all

Speaker 1 the money into it and was like, I want this to be a great. You can tell.

Speaker 1 He's like, I really want this to be a great experience for people who come here and i think it's the right move i think there are people because the clippers are in like a weird place and we're not really sure like who's the draw there if is kawaii playing um

Speaker 1 and i think the dome is really the draw is the draw it's amazing Your experience there is the leveled seating, there's not a bad seat in the house.

Speaker 1 And then they have this screen that goes all the way around the top of the thing. It's like, it's sort of like so-fi

Speaker 3 for basketball.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like SoFi for basketball. It's got like a little bit of a spear vibe.
It's crazy.

Speaker 3 I'm so glad we got a review. That's like the first throwbacks.
You got this legit review.

Speaker 1 Thank you, bro. Yeah, it was really good.
We had, we had, I got seats from Lamorne, has season tickets.

Speaker 3 Emmy award-winning Lamorne.

Speaker 1 Award winner, Lamorne Morris, has season tickets.

Speaker 1 He let us borrow the tickets because he knows Ozzy is a big fan. And he's second row.

Speaker 1 In some arenas, you go second row is like kind of the worst place to be sitting because you're right behind the first row. And

Speaker 2 if you're down there,

Speaker 1 there's usually not any gradient. So

Speaker 1 if you're stuck behind somebody tall, like you can't really see the game.

Speaker 2 Like me, who's shorter than everyone.

Speaker 1 I mean, I got a nine-year-old with me.

Speaker 1 And so

Speaker 1 they have the gradient at every level. And so you are just, it was, it was incredible.
And that place is staffed up in a way that is.

Speaker 2 And he got he got what happened yeah what happened to young odd

Speaker 1 so we get there super early um

Speaker 1 and because we want to see warm-ups and so we walk by and we're walking in towards the clippers section and there's a you know i think like harden was out there we're like oh cool all right he's how he's like he's playing tonight that'll be exciting uh and then we walk down to the other side and we see like oh my god luca's warming up and he was just so low down there and he was warming up And

Speaker 1 we were like, couldn't believe it. And then we thought, maybe, maybe he's playing tonight.

Speaker 1 Anyway, so we get down to our seats and we're watching him. And the two of us are just like, I can't believe this.
We're so lucky. We didn't even think he'd be here.
Like, blah, blah, blah. Anyway,

Speaker 1 so this security guard comes over to us, who is the nicest man I've ever met in my life.

Speaker 2 Says,

Speaker 1 hey, listen, he's going to go to half court. He's going to shoot some shots from half court.
Then he's going to come to the free throw line. When you see him come to the free throw line,

Speaker 1 he's going to make a beeline to like the

Speaker 1 gate or whatever, the tunnel.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 he's like, just get ready. And because we were right by the tunnel.

Speaker 2 And so we're like, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 But I'm now like having a heart attack. And Ozzy's watching him.
And I'm like, Ozzy, just get ready. Get ready.
And we're like, see, he's like, like, like circling the half-court line. And I'm like,

Speaker 1 here we go. Here we go.
Here we go. And I like have the camera.
I have my phone ready, but it keeps shutting off because it's on too long.

Speaker 1 And I'm going like, cow, don't, don't, don't you be the one to blow this.

Speaker 2 Yeah, don't mess this up.

Speaker 1 And I'm thinking we're just going to get a picture and like, maybe in like a passing, like sort of maybe a fist bump. And if I can get the picture of the fist bump.

Speaker 1 Anyway, so he finally takes his free throw shot. He comes down.
There was a dad and another kid right there. And it's preseason, which was really cool because it wasn't like.

Speaker 2 packed

Speaker 1 people. It was very chill.
And so he comes through. There was a kid and a dad there.
And he stopped and he was so nice. And he took a picture with this kid.

Speaker 2 And I thought, oh my God, are we going to get a picture?

Speaker 1 And so he comes through, and I turned into the dad.

Speaker 1 I don't know what I turned into.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I don't even remember this happening, but it definitely did happen.

Speaker 3 I went, Luca, Luca, Luca.

Speaker 2 With your voice high-pitched.

Speaker 1 It was so bad. It was really embarrassing.
And meanwhile, my nine-year-old son is just like has his jersey out like this.

Speaker 1 And Luca was like, totally clocked it, was like very present in the moment, saw my son and turned around. He took a bunch of pictures with him.

Speaker 1 And then this security guard, who's the coolest guy in the world, somehow slips him a Sharpie in that moment.

Speaker 2 Oh, what a gangster this guy is.

Speaker 1 And like Luca turns him around, and I could see my son's face like this.

Speaker 1 What is happening? And he signs the jersey. And

Speaker 1 I'm like, I don't know that we can ever go to a basketball game again.

Speaker 3 It's over. Dude,

Speaker 2 you just gave me goosebumps, dude. That's got got that's what a memory.
What a

Speaker 2 crazy,

Speaker 1 and like I gotta say,

Speaker 1 you know, as somebody who will go through an airport or in as

Speaker 1 and sometimes in situations where people would like a photo or whatever it is, um, I always do it, always.

Speaker 2 Good karma coming your way,

Speaker 1 and every every so often, every so often, you're like, This man,

Speaker 1 it would be really cool if this came back.

Speaker 2 Like, in this moment, you got it back.

Speaker 1 Totally did.

Speaker 1 But Luca was very cool, man. He is now at the top of the list.

Speaker 3 So, 30 years from now, when Ozzie is at dinner with some friends and they start talking about who's your goat, is it 1,000% Ozzy's going? Luca Dawkins is the greatest basketball player of all.

Speaker 3 That's his favorite player for life now.

Speaker 1 I think it's going to be hard for him to come down from Luca.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I get it, man. He's also like, you know, he's one of those guys.
We've been watching him just warm up, you were like,

Speaker 2 he's different, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's a different guy. He's like, this is a top five player in the league, top three, top two.
And you know, like at any moment, he's the best player in the league.

Speaker 1 He's an L, he's an elevated guy. And if things go the way that you think they're going to go for him, he's, you know, an iconic legendary player in the NBA.

Speaker 2 So you can feel it.

Speaker 3 This preseason's been kind of interesting. You, to me, and my Nick's friend circle have had the best quote of that situation.

Speaker 3 Speaking of fathers and sons, Rick Brunson, Jalen Brunson, Dante DiVincenzo. Now, I know it's been analyzed, but we are the real heart of this because we are true Nick fans.

Speaker 3 What were your thoughts on DiVincenzo talking trash at the free throw line and then mixing it up with his best friend's dad?

Speaker 3 That would be like if I had gotten to an argument, Max, with your father on Thanksgiving. I just hated it.

Speaker 3 I felt like it was like a divorce. I hated it.

Speaker 1 I didn't like it.

Speaker 3 You remember your quote to me?

Speaker 3 Via text?

Speaker 1 Oh, I said, yeah, I go, this is what happens when a family business, when a family business, or when a family makes a business decision. This is what happens when a family makes a business decision.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 Which may come back to haunt them. I don't know.

Speaker 1 But I mean,

Speaker 1 I'm daily on it. I don't know, Matt, if you've experienced Gary's emotional response.

Speaker 2 Oh, Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 I am wrapped up in this Knicks world all of a sudden in the last three months. I witnessed watching a Knicks playoff game with Jerry in New York.

Speaker 2 Actually, I'm going to tell this story really quick because I want to get your take. We have,

Speaker 2 Jerry's got two, got his, has his courtside tickets for what series? That was Pacers.

Speaker 3 It was game two Knicks Pacers, this podcast. Game players.

Speaker 2 Game two Knicks Pacers. And I'm in New York and we're doing press and stuff for this podcast, right? Which was important.
And this was like the first time Jerry and I were really hanging out.

Speaker 3 We're 15 blocks from MSG.

Speaker 2 I would have been, I would, with my bad hips and all, I would have been running for those courts.

Speaker 2 So we're there and it's like we have to leave at a certain point, but we go on stage to talk about the pod and all these things. It was like upfronts.
And I'm sitting there the whole time.

Speaker 2 I'm thinking, dude, like we could make this game. We could get there by the second quarter.
We're going to sit courtside. I'm going to get to see MSG with Jerry Farrar.

Speaker 2 He says no, and we watch it from a sports bar. By the way, by the way, and I'm like, I'm like, are you serious, dude? Like, this is the first time we're so mad at me.

Speaker 2 I was so pissed because I'm watching this game and then I'm watching him. I'm literally sweating, watching him sweat, watching the Knicks.
Because every single point is like, yeah.

Speaker 2 Or actually, Jerry's actually pretty quiet. He was just like stoic.
Like, people are trying to come up to him. And we're, you know, we're, we're mingling and like trying to meet people.

Speaker 2 And he is just like in a zone. I'm like, dude, this dude is crazy.
But that would have been uh we had courtside seats that he passed up i get it

Speaker 1 well the indiana series was was weird um because

Speaker 3 this was early it was early it was that it was the game oj og ananobi tore his hamstring but you guys up to that point we were well in control yeah yeah yeah but still that was yeah but that was it was still a tense that was i i felt very tense that whole time because you have gone though would you have left so we were in a place with a hundred foot screen the games on matt and i finished the up fronts and if we jet over the msg we could get into the seats by probably midway second you think or early third quarter but we would have missed the chunk would you have it just it would have been it would just been a it would have been a really cool thing for you to do for me yeah as a new as a as a new buddy it could have been like an ultimate flex hey man let's go next i if it was yeah if you were solo i understand you staying but thank you max you can i don't like i don't like you you two

Speaker 2 ganging up on me at all. But

Speaker 2 listen, well,

Speaker 1 okay, so where are we at on the trade?

Speaker 3 Yes, where are we at?

Speaker 3 Look,

Speaker 2 this is going to sit back and listen to this more next year.

Speaker 1 This is where I've ultimately, this is where I've landed today

Speaker 1 or last night when I was thinking about it

Speaker 1 because I knew we were doing this today.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 I looked at the bit, like the big swing trades from

Speaker 1 teams that were in contention

Speaker 1 and that were not as a result of like a player saying, I want out.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 3 Forcing their way out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So Minnesota's one of them, the gold bear trade. That was a good team.

Speaker 1 And they took a huge swing.

Speaker 1 through and everyone on every everyone in Minnesota hated that trade. Everyone in the world hated that trade.
And the first year was kind of dicey.

Speaker 2 And the second year, pretty good.

Speaker 1 Pretty good. I mean, there was a week of podcasts where everybody was saying that that was the greatest defense made in the world.

Speaker 2 That's true.

Speaker 1 That's true. They're like, is this a top three defense ever?

Speaker 1 And then they played the Mavs and you're like, okay, but ultimately that trade worked out.

Speaker 1 I think the Celtics did the same thing. I don't think everyone in Boston was like, Porzingus is a home run.

Speaker 1 And they lost Marcus Smart in that deal. And so you're like, I don't know.
But that worked out. The dame thing in Milwaukee, we'll see.
But they, you know, they felt like they had to do something.

Speaker 1 And I think

Speaker 1 this was not a dissimilar move by the Knicks, who I have to give them credit are trying to win a title. And I think...

Speaker 1 Look, I think as construction, I would have liked to have seen it, but obviously they felt like they had to make the move at the timing that they did.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I don't see a version where we play the Celtics in the playoffs without a legitimate scoring big

Speaker 1 and win.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 if you have a team that has Drew Holiday and Derrick White, you can take Brunson out of the game.

Speaker 2 I agree.

Speaker 1 Good point.

Speaker 1 The way that we had played all year long.

Speaker 1 The game that I always come back to that was like the most fun game of the year, but also the scariest game was that San Antonio game where Brunson scored like 60 something.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Every time down the floor, it became like

Speaker 1 the whole team just like went into the left corner and it was just one-on-ones with Brunson every every possession. And it was like Brunson versus Wembanyama.

Speaker 1 And I was like, this is fun, but this is not sustainable.

Speaker 1 And if you're playing the Celtics, like they just have, they have too much. And that's the team you have to go through.
And I don't, and there's no going around it. So I think, and

Speaker 1 this was the swing. And I think ultimately, if you look at like just the math of it, I think you have to look at it like

Speaker 1 it was Hartenstein.

Speaker 1 We basically gave up Hartenstein, Randall, and DiVincenzo for Ananobi. because of the money.

Speaker 3 Cat and Bridges.

Speaker 1 Cat and Bridges. And to me, like, if you look at it like that, and a bunch of pics and if you look at like that you're like i kind of do that every time

Speaker 2 as much as i love nick's talk guys every single you're transitioning us right now i want i i want to transition us into how you guys met because i know max jerry and i were talking this week i'm like there's video games there's the gentleman's league i told him a little bit about our gentleman's league

Speaker 2 not show clips yet i want to i'll take us back to to memory lane here how'd you guys meet we did um

Speaker 1 i don't know if we've ever talked about this on like a show.

Speaker 3 We never, ever talked about it on this show. People just think we know each other.

Speaker 1 So it was right around the time of like cable TV was starting to make real shows. Um,

Speaker 1 Sopranos, The Shield.

Speaker 2 I mean, this is a

Speaker 2 long time ago. World

Speaker 2 map. Throwbacks.
That's what I call it. I'm right there with you guys.

Speaker 1 Throwbacks. Throwbacks.
Oh.

Speaker 1 But yeah, so all of these cable networks were feeling like, oh man, we can make, we can do a different version of what the network TV is doing and have shows that are, you know, bringing people to our networks.

Speaker 1 And so MTV

Speaker 1 decided they were going to get into the scripted business.

Speaker 2 Put their hat in the ring.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 they bought a script from our friend Larry Golan, who had written this like sort of young,

Speaker 1 it wasn't a young Sopranos, but it was like a bunch of guys in New York growing up.

Speaker 1 I think they were all in high school.

Speaker 3 They were like, see, oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was like a high school show. This is how long ago it was.

Speaker 1 Anyway, so they were casting out of LA, and every New York actor who lived in Los Angeles came to this one, like, you know, final audition. And there was like three or four guys for every role.

Speaker 1 And Jerry and I met at this

Speaker 1 reading or like this audition process. And I think the two of us had an idea: like, it'd be cool if it was you and I, right?

Speaker 2 This could work.

Speaker 3 We're gonna get this.

Speaker 1 And I've been in those situations before. I had the same thing with New Girl where I met Jake Johnson.
And I think the two of us were like, it'd be cool if it was us.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 so we met during that audition process. And then we were lucky enough to get the show.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 MTV just MTV hired us and then kept us on hold before we decided to shoot the pilot. And they would, they kept paying, they kept extending the hold and they would give us like $2,500 for a month.

Speaker 1 We really extend it. And the two of us were like this.

Speaker 2 Holy shit.

Speaker 1 I remember we were like playing Madden in a

Speaker 1 in Jerry's basement.

Speaker 2 So good.

Speaker 1 The two of us were just like this, man.

Speaker 2 We made it.

Speaker 1 I hope they keep this show on hold forever.

Speaker 2 So true.

Speaker 1 And then I think we were on hold for like six months or something before they finally passed on it.

Speaker 1 And then Larry Golan, who had written the show, got the script back and decided to write it out as an independent film that we made in New York. And so we spent like

Speaker 1 this wild, long time together and then had this crazy independent film experience in the Bronx.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Not far from Yankee Stadium.

Speaker 2 Not far from Yankee. No, not at all.

Speaker 1 And have just, you know, been friends ever ever since.

Speaker 2 So, so

Speaker 2 you guys audition, and then in that six months, are you auditioning for anything else? No, we're not allowed to. We're not allowed to, really?

Speaker 2 You're just in the basement playing video. Living the life, man.

Speaker 3 $2,500 a month to do nothing.

Speaker 2 That's a great life.

Speaker 1 Just like smoking weed, playing. I'm just like, man, this is.

Speaker 3 You're like, dude, this is what acting's all about.

Speaker 2 Let's go.

Speaker 1 We were like, we fucking made it.

Speaker 3 I remember my mom used to call and be like, what are you doing today?

Speaker 2 I'm like, I'm on on hold.

Speaker 2 I'm high. I'm on hold, mine.
Dude, I'm on hold.

Speaker 3 So, look, you brought up something good there, though.

Speaker 2 Cause we're also

Speaker 3 at the end of every episode, we do like our throwback three and we pick a topic. This week, I picked top three throwback sports video games, right?

Speaker 3 You and I have played a lot of Madden. Some of my favorite memories with you then transitioned to a game that Matt was probably in and was in several times, NCAA, where we used to play.

Speaker 3 But But then I also did see you talked about this publicly on New Girl. You guys used to play Madden, but you were like, were you the OC?

Speaker 3 And someone was that, because I feel like you're cheating on me now.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Jerry, that was Jerry. Jerry was pissed.

Speaker 3 That was like our thing, bro. You played Strong Safety.
I was courted. Like, that was our thing.

Speaker 2 He's like, yeah, I cheated on you.

Speaker 1 I never felt like I was cheating on you. It felt like a totally different relationship.

Speaker 3 That's how it always goes. That's how it always goes.

Speaker 1 And now that I'm, I apologize. I'm sorry.
And, you know, eventually,

Speaker 1 look, I messed up.

Speaker 2 Screwed up.

Speaker 1 But yeah, so we, we, on that show, there were like lengthy, lengthy periods of time where we were waiting.

Speaker 1 And I think it took us like a season or two before,

Speaker 1 maybe two or three before one of us like connected an Xbox. Either that or it took Jake and I two years to figure out how to connect it.

Speaker 3 Yeah, like who brought it in? Jake brought it in? Who's trailing it?

Speaker 1 I'm not totally sure. Okay.
I don't remember. I think Lamarne like got one for free.

Speaker 3 And then probably went to an Xbox party.

Speaker 1 party yeah he like went to an i i don't really know what happened but we were like we'll play that and so we we hooked it up in the trailer and we decided that playing each other would have caused we would have just it would have it just would have been it would ruin the vibe so we decided it was funnier if we played

Speaker 1 uh offense and defensive coordinators on the same team and just like did a did a full season

Speaker 1 and um

Speaker 1 created like you know characters for the offensive defensive coordinators.

Speaker 1 The saddest part of it is that we played many, many seasons of

Speaker 1 that game and

Speaker 2 we didn't win that many Super Bowls.

Speaker 2 You would have got fired.

Speaker 1 There were a lot of seasons where we were like this: turn it off.

Speaker 2 Turn it off. Restart, quit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, restart. New season.
And like, a lot of the fights that Jake and I got on, like that you see on camera,

Speaker 1 result. We were just like, we were so pissed at each other in the trailer that we would then go straight from the trailer onto set

Speaker 1 and just seamlessly walk into a scene, probably not even know our lines, and just start arguing and like try to take the football out of it.

Speaker 1 But that's where it all came from, just us screaming each other about how one of us screwed up, you know, in the fourth quarter or threw a pick or let up a touchdown.

Speaker 1 It was

Speaker 1 humiliating.

Speaker 2 Isn't that the greatest thing? You guys are probably doing like these iconic scenes on that show, and all in your mind, you're just thinking, How the fuck did we lose that game 30 minutes ago?

Speaker 2 I love that.

Speaker 1 We really thought we were, and we, we were,

Speaker 1 there was always like, you know, a second AD who was like, had to knock on our trailer.

Speaker 2 Hey guys, we're ready. We'll be right there.

Speaker 1 Hey, guys.

Speaker 1 I wish it was that nice.

Speaker 2 we were like this we're in the middle of fourth quarter

Speaker 2 are you are you do you play do you play madden against your son do you play video games with him

Speaker 1 madden we've played once or twice he likes it but he plays against the computer because i've i when i play him i've just i mean i i there's you smash i mean do you smash the game yeah

Speaker 1 and um and he's and he and he gets really upset and so i'm like i'm not i love it i love it i'm not playing you i'm not doing it because then can he really likes to talk shit.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, if you're going to talk shit, I'm going to play you for real. And so, and then he gets, then he gets, he gets crazy.

Speaker 1 And so I'm like, I'm not playing you. But I'll play him in 2K and it's pretty, it's pretty even.

Speaker 3 See, I'm not here yet. What do you do, Matt?

Speaker 2 Dude, so my oldest, Max, is 17. And I used to play,

Speaker 2 you know, when he was nine, 10, when your son's age, and I used to just beat his ass. I was like, I'm not, I'm not, just like I did in, in, in, uh, in, in the backyard basketball.

Speaker 2 Like, I never took it easy on him, but he started to get a little bit better. We play Madden a lot, a little bit better.

Speaker 2 And then my boys would come over and he would, he would talk so much shit to them to the point where my boys would be like, they look at me and they're like, are you going to tell him to stop or I'm going to kick his ass?

Speaker 2 I'm like, I'm like, it's all you guys. I'm like, Cole, watch your mouth.
You're going to get your ass kicked. This is when he was 10 years old.
Now he's 17. And

Speaker 2 we don't play a lot of games. He kind of transitioned into like Fortnite and he does some of that stuff.
But

Speaker 2 yeah, I never took it easy on him, him, but he could beat me now, which is unfortunate because you never hear the end of it.

Speaker 3 So run it up. If you got, like, I'm not there yet.

Speaker 2 My oldest is five.

Speaker 3 The video games are coming. I could already see the trolliness in them.
So run it up. No mercy.
Sweep the leg. Is that what we're saying here?

Speaker 1 I think you sort of like vibe out with them a little bit. You see, like, emotionally where they are.
And you're like, man,

Speaker 1 I know what I could do right now, but this is going to cause an explosion.

Speaker 1 And I'm like,

Speaker 1 I'm like, this is going to cause Ozzie to yell at me, potentially throw a controller.

Speaker 2 Yeah, oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 And then end up in his room for two hours where I then have to like somehow go apologize.

Speaker 2 Dude,

Speaker 2 this brings me back to, you were telling the set,

Speaker 2 I was playing a Monday game, Monday night game. It was the Bears game.
in 06 and

Speaker 2 Denny Green used to allow us to spend the night at our our house the night before if you were like whatever, vet or rookies had to stay or whatever, what is.

Speaker 2 Most of the time, we're in a hotel, even for home games. And I remember playing ping pong with my, and my best friend moved out with me to Arizona after college.
And we were just playing like

Speaker 2 ping-pong at one o'clock in the afternoon. I got a Monday night game like five hours later, and he's just kicking my ass.
And I end up, and I was, I'm a very, very hyper-competitive person, obviously.

Speaker 2 And I started chucking my paddle at him. I literally gashed him right in the.
Oh, yeah. This is this, yeah, this is Monday Night Football game, the Bears, the Bears game.
Never told you that, Jerry.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I was thinking, my mind going to that was like, how the hell did I lose in ping pong to this guy? I was so pissed, dude. And you smashed it.

Speaker 2 I was the worst. I would throw controllers, paddles.
Yeah, I'm not a not. This is if you beat me in this basketball competition, which we can get into later, I might throw a ball at your face.

Speaker 1 It's so funny.

Speaker 1 I've been to Clayton Kershaw's ping-pong

Speaker 1 a couple times.

Speaker 3 Just serious stuff, this ping-pong.

Speaker 2 That's the greatest.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Kershaw Challenge, which, by the way, is like such a wonderful organization. He's the greatest.
And Cedric, the entertainer, and I hosted it not last year, but the year before.

Speaker 1 He has like all the wonderful thing about that Dodger team is they are like genuinely all friends. It's such a good vibe with those guys.

Speaker 1 But so they all come to the event and they all pair with each other, which is completely unfair.

Speaker 1 They're playing like, you know, Milacunis, and

Speaker 2 every feminine is like, whap.

Speaker 1 You're like, relax.

Speaker 1 And it always ends up being like

Speaker 1 a grouping of Dodgers at the end because it's like a tournament. They run it towards the end.
And these guys are so competitive. It is wow.
It is such a different, it's such a different level.

Speaker 1 You know, my daughter plays

Speaker 1 volleyball, loves it. She plays JV volley.
She's on the JV team right now. She's a freshman in high school and she plays club.

Speaker 1 But she loves it. And she has so much fun with it.
And I love going to the games and it's great for her. But there's such a difference between her.

Speaker 1 And then there's another girl who's the same age, who's in ninth grade, who's like an athlete. Who's going to get, you know, she's

Speaker 1 going to get a D1 scholarship to wherever she wants. She's on the varsity team.
She's unbelievable. She hits the ball a ton.
Like, you go, what is happening here?

Speaker 1 This just looks like a different sport. But you can see the way that she approaches the game is with such a different level of

Speaker 1 just authentic

Speaker 1 competitiveness and a level of like seriousness

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 1 is such a wild difference

Speaker 1 from somebody who's just playing and

Speaker 1 enjoying the game.

Speaker 2 What kind of dad are you on the sideline or watching? I mean, because you're competitive, obviously.

Speaker 1 I have different levels. It depends sort of.

Speaker 1 If I'm having a bad day, there was one time where I was having a bad day and I was like,

Speaker 2 she better play fucking good girls.

Speaker 1 I was like, I need this. And then I realized midway through, I was like, you need to chill out.

Speaker 1 No, I'm pretty good. I mean, I like to just check in with her and make sure she's like in a good zone.
And she, she genuinely, she loves it so much. I don't know.
Girls volleyball is the greatest.

Speaker 2 It's fun. Yeah, it's a lot of fun to watch.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 she, she just is one of those, she's like, has her approach to it is with such a joy and so much fun that I sort of just try to like lean into that.

Speaker 1 And if she's not having fun, I'm like, I'm more concerned, like, what's wrong, what's going on with you.

Speaker 1 But she usually, you know, she's the one who's like just cheering for everybody and like runs on the court, you know, and her rotation, she plays libero. we're like back.

Speaker 1 She'll like run on.

Speaker 2 You're like, this is great.

Speaker 1 This is this is the best sport. Love it.

Speaker 3 I already have my cognitive behavioral therapist booked for when my kids start playing sports.

Speaker 3 Because if you thought me getting upset at OG Ananobi tearing his hamstring, imagine me at a 10-year-old basketball game. I'm not even ready for that.

Speaker 3 I've already decided I'm going to have to just change who I am fundamentally as a person.

Speaker 1 I coach my son's basketball league.

Speaker 2 So good.

Speaker 1 He and shout out to Doug Luckterhand.

Speaker 3 Doug, WME's own Doug Luchterhand.

Speaker 1 Yes, sir. So Doug and I coach our son's team.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 1 we were in like the playoffs last year. And there was a moment where the other team was a little bit shorthanded.
And they had one kid that was like just dominating.

Speaker 1 And he was scoring all their points. But there's a rule that

Speaker 1 each player is only allowed to play a certain amount of time. Right.

Speaker 1 And they were trying to keep him in in the fourth quarter and already played him out of his extended period. And there was one of the dads,

Speaker 1 one of the dads on the sideline

Speaker 1 kept like looking at me, going, he shouldn't be playing. He shouldn't be playing.

Speaker 2 Tell me you kicked him out.

Speaker 1 And I was like, no, he was advocating for us, like saying the other team can't.

Speaker 2 Get the kid out of there.

Speaker 1 And I was like, I'm not going to, I can't do this this is this is kids these are kids these are kids this is too much and if they're like if they're choosing to do this i don't i don't think it's right but i'm also like not gonna be the one to go to like center court not dying on this hill yeah i'm not going to like the the bench to be like this eight-year-old has got to get out of the game

Speaker 1 so this dad all of a sudden just comes walking across the court and looks at me like, you coward.

Speaker 2 Called you a coward.

Speaker 1 That was the vibe. He looked at me like, you coward.
And then walked past me and walked right to the end. And he goes, that boy should not be in the game.

Speaker 3 Dude, that's a playoff game, Max.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 they checked the thing and they were like, yeah, no, he's got to get out. And they pulled him.
And then he walked past us again and looked at both Doug and I like disgrace.

Speaker 3 You know, it's really the team culture, though, that you built over there, Matt.

Speaker 3 Like, if we're going on first take today, we're going to be talking about Greenfield and Luckterhand's team culture and what they.

Speaker 2 By the way, If that was me, I would, and it's a playoff game, I would have sent my assistant coach to be like, that kid needs to leave. I would have, oh, yeah, we're trying to win.

Speaker 1 Well, Aiden's dad really took care of it.

Speaker 2 Dude, that's so good.

Speaker 3 So, two more things before we let you go.

Speaker 3 I'm trying to make this a thing. I don't know if I could actually get this to become a thing, but I think this is a good place for sports and acting to intersect, right?

Speaker 3 I used to talk to Kevin Connolly a lot about this.

Speaker 3 What are rings for actors, right? Because I've thought about this. It's not winning, you've been nominated for an Emmy.

Speaker 3 I don't think it's winning an Emmy or an Oscar because that, to me, I would almost say that's like an MVP award for an actor if you win an Oscar or Emmy, right?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 But what, like, who's Robert Ori

Speaker 3 in the acting world? Meaning, like, you got four rings, you've hit some big shots, you never made an all-star game. Like, I could make the case.
Look, I did, you know, 100 episodes of Entourage.

Speaker 3 I only wanted that didn't get nominated.

Speaker 2 Which, by the way, is winning a ring to me.

Speaker 3 70 episodes of Entourage never won. I never won.
Power, never nominated for nothing. Good shit.
Like, is there a world where I could say, I got a ring? You have done hundreds of episodes of TV.

Speaker 3 You were nominated. So that goes on your case.
Like, are you like one SNL hosting gig away from being like Matt Greenfield, got a ring? He got a ring.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 2 He got a championship ring.

Speaker 1 I think, I don't, it's a hard compare. It's a hard comparison to make.

Speaker 1 I think it's whatever a ring is to you personally as an actor.

Speaker 3 Season, you're going into season seven, October 21st in the neighborhood. That shit's a ring, bro.
Seven seasons of a show? That's a ring.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 seven seasons, and then that's coming off of seven seasons.

Speaker 2 A new girl, yeah.

Speaker 2 By the way, that's your Hall of Fame status.

Speaker 3 Hall of Fame status.

Speaker 2 Well, I mean, you're on two major hit shows.

Speaker 2 The idea.

Speaker 2 Longevity.

Speaker 1 The idea that we've been able to maintain these shows and keep them going.

Speaker 1 I think I'm definitely more proud of the neighborhood, just in the sense that, like, you know, the new girl, I was just sort of like on, and I was like, therefore the ride.

Speaker 1 And I was like, oh my God, I can't believe this is happening.

Speaker 1 And it was a crazy, fun, worldwin experience. But the neighborhood was something like, okay, well, now you're coming off of that.
And then you're building on to the nit and you're building on this.

Speaker 1 And you're coming in in a more leadership

Speaker 1 role.

Speaker 1 And how are you going to approach that? And you sort of have to like really,

Speaker 1 I remember like really focusing on and dedicating ourselves to launching that show.

Speaker 1 And that's something we I wasn't really a part of on New Girl.

Speaker 1 And so, you know, I think that's really the thing. It's, it's a different

Speaker 1 It's different with sports because with a TV show, you know, you have to like build it in the beginning and build the foundations, especially with a network TV show where like you know you're not doing these these big arcs you know it's not it's not entourage where you're doing eight episodes a season you're doing a bunch of episodes you're doing you're you're like

Speaker 1 the beautiful thing about a network tv sitcom specifically is the consistency of it you know people tune into it every week just to be like

Speaker 1 this is nice these are the people that i invite into my living room every

Speaker 1 every Monday night and like I just enjoy this and this makes me feel nice and I can see that they're having fun and that makes me feel good And I just, I like these people.

Speaker 1 But in order to get there, you have to build that and build that trust and make and tell these people, like, this is real and this really works. And this is why.

Speaker 2 Well, first of all, Hall of Fame, in my opinion. And Jerry,

Speaker 2 Jerry.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I'm my second ballot, maybe, maybe second ballot.

Speaker 2 Second ballot.

Speaker 2 I'm curious even for you too, Jerry, because I married, my wife was an actress, and then she's now a lawyer. But so I kind of went through this with her at the taint.

Speaker 2 And she had, you know, went on shows and had a successful career, but then got burnt out and all that.

Speaker 2 Was there a, for both you guys, was there a time, maybe it was from when you were smoking weed in the basement playing Madden to

Speaker 2 New Girl or to Entourage that you were like, man, this is hard and this isn't for me or I want to pursue a different passion? Is there ever a moment in your careers where you had that early on?

Speaker 2 Or was it always just,

Speaker 2 you know, you're getting picked up, you're getting shows, all those things?

Speaker 1 Well, no, I mean,

Speaker 1 I can say certainly, you know, early on there were moments where you're like, I got to get out of this. Maybe this is not for me.
And you're like auditioning and not getting stuff.

Speaker 2 And I had that for a long time.

Speaker 1 It was like, I can't believe.

Speaker 1 And you start to get to a place where you're like,

Speaker 1 I'm getting so close and this is not working. Maybe it's not supposed to work.
Right. You know, maybe like it's either.

Speaker 1 I'm getting so close. This is bound to work at some point.
But then it keeps happening and you keep getting turned down and people keep saying no.

Speaker 1 And you get to a place where you get past that idea and you go, maybe this just isn't supposed to work. And that's a real bummer.

Speaker 1 But I would say really like, you know,

Speaker 1 again, I'll come back to like, you know, the neighborhood. You get to a place where, you know, you talk about that consistency and you talk about doing it every day.
And, you know, I would

Speaker 1 sort of maybe

Speaker 1 equate it a little bit to, you know, what you do as an athlete at some point, where you're like, we're running the same offense, we're doing the same thing, and the consistency is what

Speaker 1 it's like the attention and detail and the consistency that really is what you have to focus on. But sometimes that can be tedious, and you really got to stay like on it.

Speaker 1 Because all of a sudden, your brain starts to drift and you're like, maybe I'll do something different this week.

Speaker 1 That's not what people tune in to see.

Speaker 3 Like Mike Williams running different routes. That's getting him traded out of New York for Devontae Adams keep going keep going

Speaker 1 yeah and what's beautiful about the neighborhood and you know having been on seven seasons and and especially now when there's so few shows like that and you know we we're still one of the few network tv shows that gets to do 20 episodes you know you look around and it's not again it's like you look around and you're like you have now built a team this is not about you at all right and so you are looking around you're like this is about keeping this show up keeping this show in the place that it needs to be so that we can keep going because you're i mean essentially you look around and it's like

Speaker 1 there's 150 almost 200 people are that are employed because of this show yeah you know seven months out of the year because of this show um

Speaker 1 and so maybe don't get it don't get don't get an idea of like this week i'm going to do it different

Speaker 1 or like i'm bored or like you know and but also like you know there's the other part of that is looking at you know the other stuff out there and you know you've been doing the show for seven years and you're looking at, like, oh, well,

Speaker 1 maybe I want to be doing what that person's doing, or like, oh, they're, you know, they're on the new hit show, and like, you're just like riding through it, and you're like, no, man, this is where I need to be, and I love these people.

Speaker 1 And, um, and we're so proud of the show, and we're so excited that it's that it's doing what it's doing, and that we're in season seven. And, you know,

Speaker 1 Cedric the Entertainer with best, best,

Speaker 1 is the greatest.

Speaker 3 Killed it on power, too, when he came on power.

Speaker 1 Killed it on power. He's just a killer.

Speaker 1 But he's, you know, he's definitely our he's our he's the number one on our on our team and um

Speaker 1 he's just he's the greatest and i cannot say enough about him and he's got the greatest sports stories oh we you know what something you could help us with i would love to get cedric on this show you got to get him on the show the running joke on the show is that like he'll come in on we tape on mondays and tuesdays and so he'll come in on monday and every once in a while be like he'll like look at the sides or whatever look at the material that we're supposed to to do that day.

Speaker 1 And he'll go, what are we doing here? And I'll be like, did you not run lines with Dave Justice this weekend?

Speaker 1 Every, I mean, like, if he's at a golf tournament every weekend, he's like golfing with Dave. He's got like this crew of retired athletes that he's always out with.
It's like Dave Justice, um,

Speaker 1 who Dave Winfield. There's like a bunch of guys.
The Daves.

Speaker 3 I'm with the Daves.

Speaker 2 He was at the Cabo event, Jerry, that you did.

Speaker 3 He was at the Cabo.

Speaker 2 Oh, that's right.

Speaker 2 They did a whole

Speaker 2 like comedy show when he kind of hosted that.

Speaker 1 He's awesome. He's the greatest.
Magic Johnson's like his best friend. He's got the greatest Magic stories.

Speaker 3 That's one favor I would love from my old offensive coordinator, Max Greenfield, too.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 He would love this. Get us, because I don't hear him talk sports enough.
I know behind the scenes, he's probably always, but publicly, I haven't heard him talk sports a ton.

Speaker 2 So I'd love to ask him.

Speaker 1 No, he's got great stories. St.
Louis guy.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Last thing, too, which look, we're talking about what's a ring and Hall of Fame career, dude. Like one of my most proud things, like, I see one of my friends, like, my friend's an author.

Speaker 3 Like, I had never thought growing up in Brooklyn that I'd have a good friend who like wrote books and stuff.

Speaker 2 You and the books are 40 pages.

Speaker 3 40 pages.

Speaker 1 32.

Speaker 3 You've written some very, very popular children's books. The most recent one, which you sent me, Good Night Thoughts, and Jacob loves it.
We got to send some

Speaker 3 Matt's Kids. Matt's kids are my books.

Speaker 2 I would love a book.

Speaker 3 But before, really quick, before we let you go,

Speaker 3 number one, and then I have a pitch for for you. I have a book pitch for you.

Speaker 3 Now, your friends are going to start pitching you books. That's what's going to be it.
Now it's not going to be scripts anymore. Your friends are going to start pitching you books.
But

Speaker 3 what is the difference between

Speaker 3 that sort of thing? I've seen you've been on like a press tour and promoting a book versus promoting a TV show. Is it the same or is it, you know, it's got to be grueling in its own way.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's definitely.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's something you can sort of do a TV, TV, you can get a TV show out there,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 through media, I think, a lot,

Speaker 1 a lot more effectively.

Speaker 1 I think with a book, the wild thing about a book is you got, you have to be sort of on the ground with it.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 3 You're like Willie Lohman. You're like selling stuff.
You're like a salesman.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and it's not even like, it's just showing up and like reading the book. Well, what's wonderful about the children's books is you get to read them in front of people.
Like, we'll take them out.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 when we go on tour, we go to like schools and stuff, and I'll read to kids, and that's the most rewarding experience. You know, it's great, you get to see their reaction.

Speaker 1 And now that we've had a couple of them come out, you know, they know the first couple books. And when, you know, there's like fun surprises in the first book.

Speaker 1 When you read it, it's like an interactive experience. But now they know the book so well that you're like, you're sort of ruining my

Speaker 2 experience with this. It's supposed to be a surprise.

Speaker 1 But,

Speaker 1 but, yeah, like, it's, it's, it's totally different. So you're really just

Speaker 1 you're out there and you're sort of share, you're sharing that book with those people. And

Speaker 1 it would be like taking a TV show out and showing them and then sitting there afterwards and being like, okay, so now let's talk about it.

Speaker 1 That's awesome. Which is really like not something that you do.
But I'd say it's it's much more rewarding in that sense where you really get to

Speaker 1 share the experience while they're experiencing it. You know, usually you get people who run up to you and you're like, this, I watched all 146 episodes of New Girl last week.

Speaker 1 All right, man, you've got to share.

Speaker 1 But, you know, with the book, it's like you'll read it to them

Speaker 1 and you get to sort of feel their experience with it. And it's, it's the, it's the best, especially with the children's book.
I don't, I, I, I don't have an experience with, you know,

Speaker 2 a real, a real book.

Speaker 3 Well, stick around now because we're about to go behind the scenes. We're going to peel back the curtain.
I'm going to pitch author Max Greenfield on a kid's book.

Speaker 2 You ready for this? Okay.

Speaker 3 I read a lot of books to my kids.

Speaker 3 Most of them involve construction sites or bedtime thoughts. Wonderful things.
My kids know more about construction vehicles than I do because of these books. We don't really have a good sports

Speaker 3 book for really, really young kids. So my idea is it's a little little sand lot, right? It's like a neighborhood, so to speak, the neighborhood.

Speaker 3 And these kids come together every day after school and they play a different sport. And in each story, there is a lesson.

Speaker 3 Hold on.

Speaker 2 This is what happens in Hollywood.

Speaker 3 He's bumping me. It's a pass.

Speaker 2 I was going to say he's he's not interested. Each book, well, like that.

Speaker 3 For instance, like that was Penguin.

Speaker 1 They passed.

Speaker 2 They passed.

Speaker 3 Book number one is, you know, we're going to teach why we, you know, why we clap when a player gets hurt, even if he's not on our team. Like,

Speaker 3 not the lessons of how to play baseball, sportsmanship lessons. Are you in, Max Greenfield?

Speaker 1 I got to wrap my head up.

Speaker 3 You're going to get back to me?

Speaker 1 Here's the issue with it.

Speaker 1 You want to sort of, like, baseball is so specific. So if you're.

Speaker 3 It could be any sport, though. Any sport.

Speaker 1 Any sport. I know, but any sport is specific.
You want to keep these things wide for kids.

Speaker 3 Interesting. Cast a wide net.

Speaker 1 Okay. I like the idea of like a like a

Speaker 2 series of books.

Speaker 1 So what you would want to do is a book about competition.

Speaker 2 Right. So

Speaker 1 really about like Matt throwing a controller or a ping-pong.

Speaker 1 Like a cartoon character of Matt throwing a ping-pong paddle across at someone's head. And, you know, we, I mean, we make it for kids, so maybe it hits them in the shoulder.

Speaker 3 Or maybe it's like a soft pad, like a foam paddle.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and the lessons we learned from that.

Speaker 3 Buddy, you're the best. I can't thank you enough for doing this.

Speaker 1 Can I ask one question?

Speaker 1 Okay, here's my question. It's for Matt.
And this coincides with acting. This is a good acting and sports

Speaker 1 crossover.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 I don't think Woody Johnson talked to Aaron Rodgers about

Speaker 1 firing Salah.

Speaker 1 I don't think he did. Everybody thinks he did.
I don't think he did. I don't think when you, it's like every actor on a show, and you hear people on like Game of Thrones or

Speaker 1 Sopranos or whatever it is. Like, they're like, I didn't know I was getting killed until you know I read the script at the table.

Speaker 3 Happened to me on power.

Speaker 2 Yeah, totally.

Speaker 1 And you, what happened? How did they tell you?

Speaker 3 They called me in the office, and Courtney Kemp looked at me and smiled. He's like, So this week we're gonna kill you.

Speaker 2 I was like, What?

Speaker 3 So you don't think

Speaker 2 a player of Aaron Rodgers'

Speaker 2 stature

Speaker 2 has

Speaker 2 power to have a loose conversation with an owner that is heavily involved

Speaker 2 and talks a little bit about the trajectory of where this franchise is going.

Speaker 1 Here's what I think.

Speaker 2 That's how I'm phrasing that back to you.

Speaker 3 So you got him fired up now, Max. This is what I deal with.

Speaker 1 Here's what I think. And I know nothing.

Speaker 1 I think the way that it went down and the way that it was and the way that people are framing it in the moment is tough for me.

Speaker 1 I think those conversations

Speaker 1 in a broad sense probably have been going on for a long, for a long time.

Speaker 2 And I agree with that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I think.

Speaker 1 There could have been a conversation that, you know, these are things I think about

Speaker 1 that could have gone like this.

Speaker 1 how you feeling it was a rough one um and just like got the vibe and was like this is not the team that i thought we were gonna have well and the guy that we're paying all this money to is not in a good mood and how like we've got to change something i i would think to you to your point there's it's it's obviously There's more to it.

Speaker 2 And I told Jerry this. I'm like, there's more within those walls that maybe, and Robert Sala was my DB coach when I was in Houston.
He was great. He's a fantastic coach.

Speaker 2 But there's more going on behind the scenes that we don't see. But I will just say this.
And to your point, like

Speaker 2 he brings in Alan Lazard. Devontae Adams all of a sudden is in the background, him doing McAfee this week.
Which is crazy.

Speaker 2 Which was awesome. So I just know, and I've been around teams where

Speaker 2 some of your heavy hitters and some of your guys I've been around have a lot more power than you would think. Now, do I think he went up to Woody Johnson and said, Sala needs to go or I'm out? No.

Speaker 2 But to your point, there's a little bit of a conversation be like,

Speaker 2 well, this is a shitty year if we don't make a change. And that's all that has to be said.
So I don't think that's a good idea. Plausible deniability.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 that happens a lot. I mean, it happens all the time.
When you're a Tom Brady or you're an Aaron Rodgers, someone like that, Rodgers got a lot of poll there, man.

Speaker 1 I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 I don't disagree, but I really like.

Speaker 1 I don't think he was, I don't think the way that it's been framed by so many people is that he was the one who got rid of them yeah i don't i don't think i don't think he went out there and said sola's got to go i don't i don't think he said that i think there's a way that that conversation happened where woody was like i see i see where this is going and it's not going in a direction that's you know healthy for our organization yeah totally and i've i've i've been around shows and big actors before and i've seen them have that communication with the people who are running the show.

Speaker 1 And I've seen those conversations happen about big things that are happening within the show. And

Speaker 1 there's, there's a,

Speaker 2 uh,

Speaker 1 there's a way that they talk to each other, which is they know how this goes. It's like, look, man, this is sort of where I'm at with things.
This is, and it's like, you can,

Speaker 1 but I know you're going to make whatever decisions you're going to do what you need to do.

Speaker 2 But yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 God, I wish we could talk to you longer, man. I'm so fascinated in your guys' world.
I love it. Oh, good.
Mac's got good stories, dude. He's got some.

Speaker 3 He's got good stories. Buddy, you're the best.
Dude, that was awesome.

Speaker 3 Neighborhood returns, CBS, October 21st, and Good Night Thoughts. My kids love it.
We're going to send one to Maddie Ice over there. And love to the family.

Speaker 3 I look forward to coming over and Ozzy destroying me in 2K soon.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Thank you guys for having me.
This podcast is so much fun. I've been listening to all of them.

Speaker 2 When Jerry comes out to LA, we all got to get together.

Speaker 3 By the way, I think mid-November, it's happening. And I can't think of a new budding friendship more than the two of you.

Speaker 3 I could already see Matt, Max down in Manhattan Beach with you, hitting the CrossFit over there at Rosillo, meeting you for an iced coffee. I could already see it.

Speaker 2 I could already see the friendship. It was love at first sight, guys.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, we'll do some lunges.

Speaker 1 You know.

Speaker 1 Let's go. Go get some coffee.

Speaker 2 That's all you need.

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Speaker 3 All right, I'm pretty excited for this one.

Speaker 3 We started doing our throwback three a few weeks ago. We've had some good ones.
This is my favorite. Now, I picked it, of course, so I could be biased, but this is my favorite.

Speaker 3 Are you ready to do your throwback three?

Speaker 3 Top three sports video games of all time? Now, these are yours. So these are your opinions.

Speaker 2 You know how hard this was for me?

Speaker 3 This was a hard time.

Speaker 2 Because you're thinking about eras. Like we were both born in the 80s.

Speaker 3 You're 19.

Speaker 3 I'm November of 79.

Speaker 2 So my bad. You're 79.
So we grew up 80s video games, 90s video games, which I think are some of the most iconic games. And then obviously now we're not probably playing video games as much.

Speaker 2 But the child, like thinking about these games and the nostalgia and the memories that came back, I mean, this is, this is my favorite, but this was so hard.

Speaker 2 I'm going to be curious to see what everybody else thinks too, because there's not really a wrong answer.

Speaker 3 No, this is all personal. This is a very personal thing.

Speaker 3 And I know the old heads who listen to this podcast are going to love this because they're going to recognize a lot of the names we're going to talk. For you youngsters out there, not everything was

Speaker 3 2K and all these great graphs. Just so you know, give it a Google.

Speaker 2 If we mention a game you've never heard of and you're going to have no idea what gigs we're talking about.

Speaker 3 Do one search and you'll see. And I think it's worth your time.

Speaker 3 If you truly love video games and you consider yourself a gamer and you don't know one of these games, throw it a Google so you can take a look after the show.

Speaker 2 You ready, Matt? Are you ready? You want me to start with number three? We're going to start.

Speaker 3 We're going to go three to one because we do need an all-time. So what is your number three?

Speaker 2 RBI.

Speaker 2 RBI baseball.

Speaker 3 Wow.

Speaker 2 Do you remember that game?

Speaker 3 Of course I remember. I feel like I used to use the Oakland A's a lot in RBI baseball.

Speaker 2 So the original baseball was just the game called baseball.

Speaker 3 Baseball.

Speaker 2 Baseball. And that one, I almost put that on there because I played hours in that.
But RBI baseball was one my brother and I played after school. He was five years older than me, but every single day.

Speaker 2 And I had to get a baseball game in there. There was Ken Griffey baseball was in there.

Speaker 3 That's a great one, too.

Speaker 2 That was right there for my, for honorable mention, but I'm going to go with RBI baseball.

Speaker 3 Yeah,

Speaker 3 you know, that was back too when they weren't able to really make any

Speaker 3 difference of what a player looked like. But I do remember they had like a great knuckle curve that looked like a strike coming the whole way and it just hit the dirt.

Speaker 2 It was an unhittable pitch. All the players looked the same.

Speaker 3 And all the players looked the same.

Speaker 3 That's a great one. Okay.
My number three.

Speaker 3 And I'm sorry, I have to do it. And it's not even that

Speaker 2 old. Yeah, that's a good one.

Speaker 3 I'm going, this is a 2K. It's 2K11.
Now, I know that's only 13 years ago, but there's a method behind my NBA, NFL.

Speaker 3 NBA 2K11 with Michael Jordan on the cover where you could play out the Michael Jordan storyline.

Speaker 3 But the biggest thing for me was this is where they made throwback teams in 2K that changed the game for us. You could play the 96 Bulls.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 You could play the 18-year-old Kobe Lakers. You know, you could be Sean Kemp and Gary Payton, be the Sonic.

Speaker 3 So that, and here's what me and my buddy Charlie O'Connell, formerly of The Bachelor, used to do. We go to his house.
We would take all current teams out.

Speaker 3 and you could put in all the throwback teams, me and him. And then we would have a draft.
You draft your own team and we would simulate the playoffs.

Speaker 3 So we met each other in the playoffs and we'd do a best of seven series. I had teams like Michael Jordan, John Stockton, Patrick Ewing.

Speaker 3 Just for me, it was the throwback teams, and it was unbelievable.

Speaker 2 That's our number three.

Speaker 2 That was good. Okay, so

Speaker 2 my second one is an all-time classic

Speaker 2 football game.

Speaker 2 I'm going back to original and Nintendo console because that's where I spend a majority of my all-star video games.

Speaker 2 Tech Tech Mobile.

Speaker 2 I think it was, it's an obvious one, I think, in a lot of lists, but for me, it was the first football game. And then that led into

Speaker 2 Bill Walsh College Football for Sega Genesis, which is my honorable mention. I used to play with SC 79 and Notre Dame 88.
And I mean, just again, my brother and I just battles.

Speaker 2 But Tech Mobile was just one that it was like, I don't know, every day you come home from school, school, you throw on Tecmo Bowl, you play for about an hour, you do your homework, you go back and play.

Speaker 2 So I'm going to go with Tecmo Bowl, number two.

Speaker 3 Did you always use Bo Jackson in the Raiders?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Bo Jackson was, yes, he was the best player in the game.

Speaker 3 Elway's Broncos are pretty legit in that game. I think we're not very good, but Lawrence Taylor was an absolute game.

Speaker 2 Yes, Lawrence Taylor and Bo Jackson.

Speaker 2 Elway, I think Marino. I think I might have used Marino in that game.
Sure.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I mean.

Speaker 3 Who else?

Speaker 2 The Seahawks were in there right the jets were in there because that was 1980 that was an 80s game yes um

Speaker 3 the jets i don't remember but i remember boja maybe not i don't know but that yeah that's a great one so i full disclosure i left madden out because we could have an entire draft of just which maddens are the best what year so i didn't go that route uh that's a great call all right i didn't really want to do this but we got to do it I go Mike Tyson's punch out since we're going Nintendo.

Speaker 3 And if I am just thinking of a game that imprinted things on my brain, I still remember the code to get directly up to Mike Tyson. You're doubting me? 007373-5963.
You think I'm looking at Google?

Speaker 3 007-373-5963.

Speaker 2 That's the code to get right up to Mike Tyson. There were two games that had, remember Contra?

Speaker 3 Up, up, down, down.

Speaker 2 Left, right, left, right, AB, AB or whatever. Yeah.
Contra and Mike Tyson's punch out. Mike Tyson's punch out, man.
Honestly, maybe the greatest game of all time.

Speaker 3 After we're done, I'm going to go rip something off the walls.

Speaker 2 Go away. What do you have? Let me see.
I'm going to do it now. Yeah, do it now.
Hold on.

Speaker 3 I know. We could cut this up to make this move quicker.

Speaker 2 I'll keep talking. Mike Tyson's punch out.
The best part about Mike Tyson's punch out, the code directly to Tyson, but also

Speaker 2 the characters. And there's no way right now, if you're listening, Jerry is going to get something

Speaker 2 off his wall

Speaker 2 that

Speaker 2 appears to be

Speaker 2 the characters of my son.

Speaker 3 So you want to know why I know you're not going to be able to do it.

Speaker 2 I'm telling everybody what you're doing right now.

Speaker 3 Well, here's the appetizer.

Speaker 3 There's a little appetizer.

Speaker 3 You have contra tiny. Something I bought at an art show.
You want to know what else I bought at an art show? Because I'm a maniac?

Speaker 2 Oh, dude. That might be a little harder to show.

Speaker 3 This is

Speaker 3 every character from Mike Tyson's punch out in like chronological order. I know there's a lot of glare on the computer.
See, Glasgow, I forget the Russian dude's name.

Speaker 2 Piston Honda. Piston Honda.
King Hippo. King.

Speaker 3 King Hippo.

Speaker 3 This is Bald Bull and Soda Popkinski.

Speaker 3 Super Macho and Sam.

Speaker 2 Oh, that is the greatest thing of all time.

Speaker 3 There's the man himself. Let me get that in the camera.
There's the man himself, Mike Tyson, right there.

Speaker 2 Biting an ear off.

Speaker 3 What, dude?

Speaker 2 So, by the way, that is legendary.

Speaker 3 Great poster. I mean, let me tell you, this was not cheap.
This was not cheap.

Speaker 2 That's a great poster.

Speaker 3 Can't say I'd walk into an art show. I'm not really the walk into an art show and buy something, dude.
But when I saw that, I said, that has to be.

Speaker 2 By the way, the fact that you have Contra too, just randomly is awesome.

Speaker 3 That's like the best two-player outside of

Speaker 3 Super Mario at times. That's like the best two-player game.
So, if we ever do a non-sports game, Contra will be up there.

Speaker 2 Okay, my number two.

Speaker 3 No, that was my number two. So, now we're going to your number one.
I haven't even given honorable mentions yet.

Speaker 3 So, if you want to get any other honorable mentions out before you're number one, now's the time.

Speaker 2 Gosh, well, Mike Tyson's punch out was on my list.

Speaker 2 So, I texted this to Andrew, our producer, 10-yard fight. You remember 10-yard fight?

Speaker 2 He didn't, he's like, what game is that? I said, are you what a pull? Are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 10-yard fight, hello. 10-yard fight,

Speaker 2 whatever the sound was.

Speaker 2 And then

Speaker 2 10-yard fight. And then you would just go left to right and up.
And you get tackled by 14 people.

Speaker 3 Dude, good for you. That is an amazing pull.

Speaker 2 So 10-yard fight. And then the other one, which

Speaker 2 RC Pro-Am. And I don't know.

Speaker 2 I guess that is, does that count as a sports game?

Speaker 3 I'll give you an honorable mention there. Yeah, because I wanted to put in a lot of wrestling games, too.

Speaker 2 There's so many good wrestling games.

Speaker 2 I mean, I could, dude, I have a list of 100, and I could go off on the, and we haven't even said FIFA or all the ones, but Blades of Steel, the Hollywood, Blades of Steel,

Speaker 3 here's some honorable mention of those Nintendo games. Remember, it was just ice hockey where you could pick the fat guy, the medium guy, and the skinny guy.
That was a great one. Double dribble.

Speaker 3 I bought

Speaker 2 a sport.

Speaker 3 Shot.

Speaker 3 Bases loaded. Do you ever play bases loaded?

Speaker 3 That was all college teams, and there used to be a glitch glitch where if you hit the cleanup batter in the seventh inning, he charges the mound. And I made it happen.

Speaker 2 Bases loaded was so cool.

Speaker 3 I was the coolest kid in the neighborhood because I made that happen. Do you ever play Baseball Stars?

Speaker 2 Baseball Stars is on my, is right here. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Climb the wall. First game where you could climb the wall.
Those Nintendo games were out there.

Speaker 2 They were all-time. I actually, I have the little system where, you know, you can go online.
You can buy like the little cart thing that has like 400 games in it.

Speaker 2 Do yourself. It's like

Speaker 2 50 bucks. Go get it, plug it into the back of your TV.
You will play every game for about five minutes and then you're over it, but it will bring you back to 1989.

Speaker 2 All right, you ready for my number one? Yeah, what's your number one?

Speaker 3 This is pretty interesting because it's it's probably my fourth favorite sport, maybe, maybe fifth favorite sport, but not as a kid.

Speaker 3 But I still to this day will say this sport translates to the best sports video game in general, NHL 94.

Speaker 3 Specifically, NHL 94.

Speaker 3 The one that Vince Vaughn says in Swingers, want to see me make Wayne and Gretzky's head bleed where you could check a player who just collapses on the ice and his head explodes, blood.

Speaker 3 This game was iconic. Also, first time you could have a manual goalie, you could actually switch to the goalie, play goalie.
You get a hat trick, hats on the ice.

Speaker 2 Chicago.

Speaker 2 Chicago Blackhawks. Blackhawks.
We're dirty, bro. The Blackhawks were dirty.
Jeremy Roenick.

Speaker 3 Chelios.

Speaker 2 Dude.

Speaker 2 Even the Red Wings, Iserman, and Federoff.

Speaker 3 Just great.

Speaker 2 I'm looking up right now because it is by far. That's arguably my favorite game of all time.
I used to smash people in that game too.

Speaker 3 When my friends and I got together and we got going on Genesis and we kind of we would draft teams. You know, some teams would get stuck with like the Vancouver Canucks, which weren't bad.

Speaker 3 But like even like the Penguins, they weren't good, but they had Lemieux. They had like a young god.

Speaker 2 I'm looking at this up right now.

Speaker 3 This is so good. It's so good.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 And the one-timer, the one-timer. The one-timer, yeah.

Speaker 3 Changed video games.

Speaker 3 And to this day, I'll pick up a hockey game every now and then. And it's still mechanics-wise and feel, it still plays the best, and it's the most fun to do to team up with.
Teaming up in 2K is fun.

Speaker 3 Teaming up in Madden is fun. Teaming up in hockey

Speaker 2 is used to rock Jeremy Roenick every day. I remember.
Yeah, that's a good one.

Speaker 3 So that's my number one. I hope all of you listening, hit us on Twitter or Instagram, wherever you're on, at throwback show.
Let us know yours. Look, we left off things, of course.

Speaker 3 There's no real winner here, but I can't believe you had 10-yard fight.

Speaker 2 Dude, I still have my number one. I haven't even given you my number one yet.

Speaker 3 Let's hear it. I'm still blown away by that.
Let's hear your 10-yard fight.

Speaker 2 I know. It's so good.

Speaker 2 All right. I'm going basketball and maybe the most iconic arcade style game of all time.

Speaker 2 NBA Jam. NBA Jam.
He's on fire. And the reason why, well, it's fun, but talk about the old school pairings.

Speaker 2 I'm thinking about right now. I'm thinking the teams that you could beat.
The Gold State Warriors was Tim Hardaway and Chris Mullen.

Speaker 2 The

Speaker 2 Blazers, I think, was Clyde Drexler. Porter? And it might have been Porter or it might have been Dale Davis.
Right. Because they needed a big guy.

Speaker 3 Yep.

Speaker 2 That game, still to this day, man, NBA Jam. I think it was on Sega Genesis, too, because that was just past Nintendo.

Speaker 2 So I remember going down.

Speaker 3 I could close my eyes. And I could smell the pizza because I used to go to the pizzeria.
That was the arcade game in the pizzeria. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 and you put your quarter up for next that's how you decided you had next game when people were playing you put your quarter in like you line it up and i literally i could taste the fountain fruit punch and just go right up and play yeah how dope is it that the creators of those games too like they like put you they were like unlockable characters you could unlock the actual creators of the game they really did well with the cheat codes too like the big head players and all the things i'm looking yeah i'm looking at some of the other teams um it's a great one that's one if you're gonna buy an arcade game for your house ever, that's one you think.

Speaker 2 Dude,

Speaker 2 my brother is 46 and just is a child. He's got a room in his house with all arcade games.

Speaker 2 Does he have NBA Jam? No, he's got Golden T, which, by the way, I almost put in there, but more of an arcade game.

Speaker 2 He might have NBA Jam. He's got Pac-Man.
And the room is small, but he's got like five arcade games. And so I texted him this.
I was like, dude, what are your best sports games of all time?

Speaker 2 I think he he put NBA JM, Golden T.

Speaker 2 But a lot of the games that we said, Bill Walsh College Football was our game that we played growing up.

Speaker 3 That's a, I mean,

Speaker 3 that game was hard too. Also, shout out, you mentioned Golden T.
I left out. Probably my most favorite honorable mention was Tiger Woods 2004 golf.
Tiger Woods, I mean, the FIFA game.

Speaker 2 I spent a lot of time on that. Yeah, Tiger Woods was great.
The FIFA games have been awesome.

Speaker 2 Pretty much, the NHL is great because every hockey game is fan, for whatever reason, it just translates into a video game. It is so much fun to play.

Speaker 2 Well, let us know. I can't wait to see what people say because,

Speaker 2 gosh, RBI base is loaded. Bases

Speaker 3 loaded. I used to be that Omaha team.
I can almost remember the player's name. There's like one good guy on there.

Speaker 3 Look, we're getting, there's a lot going on this weekend, and I know you're traveling again. So, I know you're going to, but what are you watching this weekend?

Speaker 3 You know, you got, I mean, you got a lot of good matchups in college football.

Speaker 2 We got a good one. We got a good one.
We're at Indiana this week. So no longer.
We're a basketball school, Jerry. We're a football school now.
6-0. They're playing Nebraska.

Speaker 2 So kind of a big game for both teams. But Georgia, Texas is the big one.
That's the big one. That's the big one.
Bama, Tennessee is big, but Georgia, Texas is,

Speaker 2 you know, Texas is rolling. Kind of a passing of the torch game maybe from Georgia to Texas if Texas can win.
Georgia already has a loss.

Speaker 2 So that will be, I think it's one versus five or one versus four, something like that. One versus five.
And we're coming off an epic last weekend of games. Oregon, Ohio State was lived up to the hype.

Speaker 2 So this, another, another great weekend of college football and another great weekend of MLB baseball, man.

Speaker 3 I have to say it's baseball. You know, I'm watching.

Speaker 3 Like I said, I'm going tonight. I'm going tomorrow.
Have fun. I'll be freezing my ass off, but it's going to be great.

Speaker 3 And I'll be watching over the weekend, too.

Speaker 2 Have fun, dude.

Speaker 3 Well, safe travels to you. Enjoy that game.

Speaker 3 Again, big thank you to Max Greenfield for joining us. I'm still reeling off the video game thing.
We should go grind some video games at some point soon.

Speaker 2 Dude, I'm just still thinking about you and Max in the basement of your apartment back in 1998. Smoke, just smoke.

Speaker 3 Yeah, man. It was a good time.
We're getting that $2,500. $2,500 a month to do that.
Hey, man, what are you doing, Jerry?

Speaker 3 Dude, I'm rich, man.

Speaker 2 I'm on hold. I'm on hold.
And this is a good life.

Speaker 3 It's a good life. Thanks, everybody, for listening.
We'll see you next week.