Matt’s Good Good Golf Adventure, Biggest Agitators in Sports & Playing “Guess That College”

Look, the show's dirty.

They curse.

They tell a lot of X-rated jokes or whatever.

One of my friends asked my mom, How are you with all that comedy, you know, a lot of jokes and this stuff?

My mom's like, I went to every Entourage premiere for eight years in a row.

It's nothing I haven't heard.

All All right, it's throwbacks.

We're back.

Myself and Matt Leinert, Matty Ice.

How are we doing?

By the way, it looks like we have the same shirt on.

For those of you on YouTube, you could see, but if you're audio,

you have like a nice red.

Is that a Panini shirt?

Not our sponsor.

I'm rocking Panini.

I am rocking Panini because our guests today are awesome.

And

I was in the Panini headquarters last week in Dallas just

boxes.

For

three hours, dude.

Three hours.

Honestly, it got to the point where I was like, I got to get to the hotel, but

I'm having and we, and I pulled, oh, I should have go, we pulled some fire too, but um, yeah, dude, let me, I just want to start off really quick

because we have a lot to talk about.

We do.

We have two good guests coming up today.

Know right now that I've had a morning, dude.

I have had a morning.

I'm not going to get into the personal stuff I'm dealing with, but I'm not feeling my best.

That's fine.

I was up at 5.30 with baby girl.

Baby girl's been great.

Can't say a whole lot, you know, negative stuff.

I'm not a big newborn guy.

It was one of those mornings where I'm not a newborn guy, but I do.

I get it though.

I get, like I said, I get it.

I get it.

Hit me up when you're about 11 months old.

But

this morning, I was up at like 5:40.

She didn't want to eat.

She's, she's kind of doing that now where she's just playing around with the bottle.

She's distracted, laughing.

Like, she's just like, I'm chilling.

I'm not going to eat.

So that was fine.

Then the boys are up at six this morning, super early.

From six to eight,

she would not let me put her down.

So she's having those.

She also has a little bit of a cold.

So like, it's just one of those things where she wouldn't let me put me down.

And then, you know, the laundry list of things, you got to get the boys ready for school.

You got to make them breakfast.

You got to do their backpack.

My oldest son is here.

I had to make sure he, I just, I'm packing lunches.

I'm trying to eat myself because then we're doing the pod and all this stuff.

So,

dude, I've just had a morning, bro.

But if you're like, let me ask you a quick question about Cole, who's 18.

Just for the thought of the future, like, is he getting up on his own and getting himself ready?

You still got to be like, Cole, get up for school, or he's on, he's like, got it now.

Yeah, no, he sets his alarm.

He's up, but like, I had to, so I had to, I had to, my car's in the shop.

That's a whole other thing.

So I had to Uber him to school this morning, but I had to Uber him to school before I dropped my kids off because when I go to my kids, there's a dead zone with no service.

Right.

So like, I'm already, I'm just planning the whole morning.

It's like, I'm like, Cole, you got to go.

Like a quarterback, bro.

You got to run your meetings.

Bro, I got 15 minutes where I'm not going to be able to call an Uber and he doesn't have Uber on his phone.

And I said, you know what, dude?

It's a lot of complaining.

I'm good.

I fought through it.

You got through it.

I fought through it.

My body hurts like a mother right now, but it's okay.

I'm good.

Well, you also had a, and I do want to ask you later on in the show more about your panini trip because that's like a dream trip for

a lot of people out there.

But, you know, our guests today.

We have Blake Mullen coming on, good goods, finest.

We have Jackson Hargis coming on.

Good goods, finest,

which we got to ask Splooge.

I mean,

yeah, I don't know.

Sound like he just dropped like a smoothie all over himself or something.

They're from Good Good.

They're going to join us later to kind of recap because you went off to Dallas and you played in that Good Good Texas shootout with a lot of other.

What did I say last week was going to happen?

You were worried about hitting someone.

Right.

Weren't you worried about hitting someone?

And sure enough, and Garrett Clark, as we know from Good Good, if you haven't seen this clip, go YouTube or Google.

Garrett Clark hits Gallery, which he hits someone with a long drive.

You drilled someone.

You flew a green.

I said, my biggest fear is hitting in front of a gallery, hitting somebody, not shanking it, just get through the hole, whatever.

Okay.

So it all came true.

My biggest fears came true.

It was, it was, there were a lot of nerves in this day until the point where I just said, I just started having a couple drinks and I let it go because I knew we weren't going to lose.

Or every golfer.

Like every hack golfer.

Really quick.

My flight was delayed a couple hours.

I landed.

I got to the tournament 15 to 20 minutes right around there before we were teeing off.

We were the second group to tee off.

And you're in a long car ride after you land, right?

So sour car.

Yeah, that's tough.

By the way, it was all good.

It just, it just was like, I would have loved to warm up a little bit, get lathered, you know, get my clubs down a little bit,

you know, shoot the shit with the guys, you know, kind of tell them, hey, dude, I suck.

So like, you got to carry on.

To Matt Ryan, you're the real Matt is.

Yeah, I get on the, I get on the, I get on the

range.

I had like, honestly, I literally did, I had seven swings on the range with Garrett.

Garrett was there.

Garrett was signing autographs.

So I was like, what up, dude?

Introduce myself.

I swung a little.

He's like, oh, dude, you're, I was striping it.

I was like, yeah, I feel good.

Like, it was what I knew, whatever, dude.

I don't really need to warm up, but I just wanted to warm up a little bit with my clubs.

I go straight to the T-box.

They tee off.

There's probably like a thousand people in the gallery.

I'm like, oh my God, dude, I'm just shitting my pants.

They all go.

So then Garrett goes first.

Garrett hits one right down the pipe.

Great.

We have one in play.

I go in.

I start getting the Texas.

Yeah, go long horn.

Of course, you're in Texas.

You're going to get trash talk.

And I'm like, guys, I actually like the trash talk.

Be loud because I don't like this silent golf.

I need people to start yelling.

So they start going nuts.

I hit it off.

I hit it off the T fine.

I kind of sliced it a little bit.

They flamed you a little bit on the broadcast.

They said, Liner looks real tight.

Like you're body.

I mean, I just, I had a six-hour travel day.

Yes.

Fine.

Don't care.

I didn't, I didn't hit anybody.

I didn't hit a ground ball.

Second shot of the day, bro.

This was it.

This was it.

140, whatever.

It was a par four, like a shorter par four.

I made great contact.

The commentators, oh, this looks good.

Oh, and then it hits this dude.

He sailed the green.

Right in the hip, just right in the hip.

He like a 16-year-old kid.

I'm like, oh my God, dude.

This is did you go find the kid and say anything or did you not even?

He was great.

By the way, we've been he DM'd me on Instagram.

He goes, he goes, Mr.

Liner, I'm just letting you know I'm the kid that you hit today.

It was an honor.

It's a memory.

I'm going to last a lifetime.

He's like, will you follow me on Instagram?

I said, hell yeah, I'll follow you on Instagram.

It was.

It's the least I could do.

I drilled you with a pitch.

But then it gets better.

The third shot.

So Garrett's like in the fringe, like eight feet off the green.

And I'm like, I'm like, dude, I got to be honest with you, chipping is, and it was a little downhill.

I said, after that shot, I get like, I might putt this.

He goes, putt it, dude.

Go ahead and putt it.

Give me a line.

So I putted it.

I putt it like five feet, four feet from the pin.

I actually had a nice putt.

It was was actually a pretty good putt we make par what people aren't talking about though i've been talking about this the second hole par three one

i don't even know 60

150 i think i had an eight iron or uh yeah 160 140 to 160 like a good little shot right over the over water or something dude i put it right above the i mean right when i hit it i'm like oh that looks good right over lands about like 10 feet behind and then just has the back spin about honestly probably three and a half feet from the hole Garrett, Burt, I actually missed the birdie button.

He's like, dude, go get yourself a birdie.

I missed it like by a hair.

All of that being said,

everything that I thought was going to happen happened.

I hit somebody.

Then I hit a golf cart later.

But about seven holes in, me and Garrett just decided, dude, let's just have a couple drinks and have fun.

And we got a little loose.

We got lathered up.

Our caddy started hitting.

By the way, Pat Peterson's caddy.

This kid, he's probably 10.

He was talking so much to me.

Patrick Peterson's caddy.

Yeah.

His name is

this kid yeah he's hilarious like no we had kid caddies you guys did have kid caddies i was like how are they these kids carrying these the golf the golf pro's son was one of the caddies and it was his friends um i thought that was a great touch but here i'm here to answer all your questions buddy no no no no it was it was my worst nightmare come true i have questions for blake and jackson when they come on from good good first and for those of you don't know like good good in the YouTube golf content space is huge.

I was so excited when you did it.

Blake, Jackson, and Garrett, Garrett, I believe, are all roommates and they're all best friends.

So, Blake, they're all Blake and Jackson are both very good golfers, too, but they're a little bit more, I believe, kind of like behind the camera editing.

Yeah, and Blake was announcing at the map at the shootout.

So, Blake was announcing for the golf channel.

Um, but they're, but they're hilarious, they're awesome, man.

It's going to be a blast.

I can't wait to talk to them.

Any good interactions with, you know, you know, we had Patrick Peterson on our show, you had Matt Ryan there.

Yeah, so my group Tate, a lot of guys you know, yeah.

My group was Pat P, me, and Jamal Charles, who I love.

Jamal Charles was pretty new to golf, too.

By the way, dude, I was like, he's like a year into golf, and he's like, he said he's like a 14 or 15.

And he's striping it.

Garrett's like, yeah, right, bro.

You're not.

You're like a five because he couldn't miss.

Yeah.

He was great.

But he sprayed a couple.

He's like, Matt, I'm telling you.

But he made like four Birdie putts.

So he made four Birdie Putts.

He just couldn't miss.

He was on, they were on fire.

Jamal Charles, I don't think gets enough respect as one of the great all-time

Madden players to use in Madden.

He was so fast.

He's best football player.

Well, best fantasy, but also like that every year that Madden came out.

And I would always make a trade for Jamal Charles because he was almost not quite Michael Vick level of a Madden player, but 99 speed, 99 agility was so fun to play.

So let's put a pin.

We'll put a pin good, good, because I can't wait to hear what these guys have to say.

We have a fun interview coming up.

These guys are hilarious, blake and jackson um i got good blowing up so there's a lot of stuff good good going on i got something fun for that i did this weekend that was also stressful but also this is going to be a little bit of a

has your wife ever done this sort of thing so adam ray comedian who we've talked about in the show.

He told the great USC story about Matt getting into a frat party.

We're going to have Adam Ray on the show.

If you don't know Adam Ray, look him up.

Go on his Instagram.

He's been a comic for years, touring, great guy.

He, in the last few years, has developed the Dr.

Phil character where he does this

impersonation, full bald cap, mustache, makeup, everything.

And he plays Dr.

Phil, a ridiculous version of Dr.

Phil.

I think he even has Dr.

Phil's blessing.

And he's touring doing these live Dr.

Phil shows.

He had asked me like a year ago.

He's like, when he was in Cleveland, I went to go see him do stand-up.

He's like, will you do my Dr.

Phil show next year?

I'm like, yeah, sure, buddy.

I thought it was Hollywood talk.

And he hits me up like two weeks before, like, oh, you're still in, right?

I'm like, Adam, you did not text me for a year to remind me.

So it looked like I couldn't do it for a minute there.

I thought I had to travel.

So we were at

a friend's house with the kids and I confirmed to do it with them.

And I told Bree.

Brie goes on, without telling me, to invite 14 of our friends without even asking me if I, A, could get tickets.

And B, do I want it to be like this big thing?

My mom was in town can, you know, conveniently.

So I have a mascara for that.

I mean, it's in your home too.

But you're not mad, but would you not consult?

Like, she never even said, Hey, babe, do you think you could get 14 tickets to the theater?

And are you okay with all of these people?

So she didn't ask, she just went straight and patiently.

She just started inviting people.

So then I had

got them for free of getting everybody tickets.

I did get it.

Yeah, we Adam.

Adam hooked it up, but you know, I didn't realize how big the show was.

You get to this theater, I don't know, 700 people there.

There just was hundreds and hundreds of people there.

And I'm backstage watching him do the show.

And I just start getting nervous, but they brought me out.

And honestly, you should do it, Matt.

I don't know if that would stress.

Let me ask you.

You should go on Dr.

Phil Live.

So that, so golf is golf.

And anything like being on TV and all that, like when you don't feel comfortable, it's nerve-wracking, but you kind of just like, I don't know, golf is hard.

So no one expects you to be really good.

What you did would, I would shit my pants.

The reason why is because with comedians,

you just don't, you don't don't know, right?

You don't know, like, that's the whole point is there's like, there's no script.

You're, you're in a theater.

There's a lot of people there and you just have no idea what's going to happen.

And I feel like it's all improv.

It's all.

And I was going to say, you're good at that.

It's all improv.

It's all off the cuff.

It's all just banter, being witty and funny and just going with the thing, which again is not my strong suit.

So like, I'm, you know what, Jerry?

You know what, buddy?

Do it.

I'm proud of you.

I got you.

I'm proud of you because we need to get you out of your comfort zone.

You, you got to be, you got to go from a no guy to a, you know what, let's go guy.

And that's what you did.

I will give a shout out to my mom who's leaving town today.

She had a great

I was actually thinking we might get her on the pod just a little bit.

By the way, she's upstairs packing.

I could get her down.

If you want to hear some hot Yankee takes, she'll come out here and spit off some Yankee.

Yeah, she was just talking.

By the way, she was telling me, she's like, you know, I was at the 1963 World Series, Yankees Dodgers.

I'm like, you were not.

Stop.

You're like 12 years old.

Your parents didn't even like, but she she pulled out the tickets though i was about to say you think she's lying to you she's got the 1960s can we get her on the you know what let's get her on the pod in uh baseball playoffs in the fall football also does she follow football at all a little bit i look if you want i could get her down here later in the show for one scorching hot yankees take she'll deliver on queue but she didn't have the line in the night um a couple of my friends because the show look the show's dirty like they they curse they tell a lot of x-rated jokes or whatever one of my friends at the end asked my mom like you know, how are you with all that comedy, you know, a lot of dick jokes and this, that.

My mom's like, I went to every entourage premiere for eight years in a row.

It's nothing I haven't heard before.

So shout out to my, but you should, Adam's going to ask you to do it, the Dr.

Phil show.

Just be ready.

And when they do an L.A.

show.

So

have your excuse ready if you don't want to do it.

I was about to say, I'm all about, you know me, man.

I skated in the LA Kings Jersey making fun of myself in front of 15,000.

I just played golf on TV as the worst player by far, and I hit two different people: one golf cart, one guy.

That is one thing that I'm just going to be like, listen, dude, I'm going to have to pass.

I'd rather just, you know, I'd rather be at the show.

I'll come watch.

I'll come watch.

I'll come watch, and you can make fun of me in the stands, whatever you want, but I'm not getting up on stage.

Well, shout out to Adam Ray.

We're going to get him on the show this summer.

He's awesome, man.

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So

I don't think you got a chance to watch a lot of the French Open.

Alcaraz with a great win.

That was one of the longest matches I've ever seen.

Five hours and 29 minutes long, right?

Great match.

Some saying greatest all time.

Who knows?

However, it begs the question, Matt, and you being a professional athlete yourself.

Athletes from which sport do you think are in the best shape?

Now, I did a bunch of Googling and there's a bunch of interesting articles taking in different accounts.

Some people do obviously define shape.

It's like endurance, but also, you know,

strength.

Some put flexibility in there.

So for you, if you had to put even two or three athletes off the top of your head that you think have to be in the best shape and whatever that means.

Sport, you mean sport, right?

Like what, yeah, what sport gives you the fittest athletes?

I didn't even, I mean, I didn't even Google this.

No, go off the dome.

The one to me that is absolutely fascinating, and it could be men and women, it doesn't matter, is gymnastics.

But

men gymnastics and some of the stuff that they do, and I was, and I was, I read something about this recently.

That's why it's on the top of my head.

Like the pommel horse and the rings and all of that stuff.

You just,

that's pure physical strength, right?

I can't even, like, I can't even like keep myself up.

You know, like at my core, it's just like, it's weak.

The other one, and I've done this firsthand, is UFC fighters.

Right.

Fight, boxing, MMA, wrestling, all of that.

MMA to me, whether it's, you know,

even

more UFC, because I trained UFC for a summer and I thought I was in good football shape.

Football shape, to be honest with you, like hockey's better shape, probably, you know, obviously.

Well, football is a lot of dead time at football.

So it's a lot of stop and go, stop and go.

So that's how you train.

Like, you know, We're not running marathons, right?

You train in spurts, like five-second spurts.

But UFC, like doing a three, like three, three-minute rounds, you feel like you're going to die.

And I did.

And so like for me, that would be probably the two off the top of my head.

Well, I went down the rabbit hole with this.

Obviously, tennis is up there.

Well, look.

Fun facts.

And this is, however, I don't think there's a definitive answer.

Soccer players run as much as seven miles.

That's right.

90 minutes.

Yeah, like running shit.

Right.

Yeah.

Water polo, a few articles had water polo as the number one because you're treading water the whole time, all that.

That might be my number one.

Fun fact with NFL wide receivers and corners, they run about a mile and a half within four, 15-minute quarters.

That's pretty good.

Hockey, obviously, we said swimming.

And then you get into rugby was up there and rowing.

Well, those rugby, those guys are just fucking animals.

Yeah.

I think water polo was the dominant number one for all the arguments.

You know what?

Let me tell you, let me tell you a quick story about water polo.

So

I'm at USC.

And at the time, this was before we had a nice facility.

So a lot of the sports shared one weight room.

It was actually, it was actually awesome because it was like the dungeon.

It was small.

It was USC before.

And like, it was all, we always kind of say our teams like built.

the future for USC, right?

Because of all the money we made, the school and the championships, whatever.

But we would share, we will work out with Waterpolo.

And our Water Polo at the time, they won like three national championships in a row.

Just monsters, all European dudes.

Like, and so we were training one day and we were like in this little room where you can go off and do core or stretch or whatever.

And there's, I don't know how many, say three or four, and they're doing planks, just normal planks.

And we're doing 30-minute planks.

I'm not kidding you, bro.

They did, they were holding 10-minute planks.

That's nuts.

And I'm like, and I'm like, and I think Yovon, Yovon got in a little trouble at USC as a coach, but at the time, I was like, we were doing one minute, you know, we're just doing like, yeah, like bicycles and, you know, like, like normal abs.

This, these dudes are just, and they're jacked.

These dudes are just holding 10 minute planks like it's nothing, like just whatever.

They're like a 35-pound plate on their back.

Yeah, and I'm like.

They're just holding it, like not even shaking.

And I'm like, how long are you guys?

Like, yeah, I believe it was 10 minutes or like five minutes at a time.

It was unbelievable.

It might be water polo.

That might be

water polo, dude.

and and also the nasty shit that goes on they said they're kicking punching under there there's like a bunch of shit it's like that you don't see under the water rugby in the water like soccer and yeah it's a lot like soccer i mean yeah it's physical i'm gonna go on a water polo that's a great question what are the top three

give us your answers to hit us on social at throwback show whether it's on instagram youtube tick tock you whatever just give us your comments your thoughts on the fittest i still think the rings and gymnastics has got to be the hardest thing you'd ever do um i think the boys are here so let's hit a quick break.

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All right, we got Blake and Jackson here.

We were talking a little bit off the air where Matt was basically telling them, like, did you look up Jerry and know an entourage?

And then, well, you, Blake, what did you say about Entourage?

My dad likes Entourage.

Yeah.

That's when you know you're an old ass man when you have a podcast guest on.

It's like, dude, my dad loved your work.

I tried to tell him, I said, Jerry, Jerry's a dog and he's an iconic figure.

By the way, if you guys, you guys, have you ever even go watch Entourage?

It's a, it crosses every generation.

It's a freaking awesome show.

It's a nice show.

Well, here's one thing I want to tell you guys about it, right?

The hook of the show is basically behind the scenes of like this young up-and-coming movie star who has like all of his boys work for him, right?

And I get asked a lot, like, what would Entourage be today?

And me being a huge YouTube golf fan, like, it's all I watch at this point, right?

So big fans of what you guys do.

If you were going to make entourage now, I think you would find like a good good, like a YouTube golf channel and cut and make the show scripted that way.

Like we're going to follow these group of YouTube golfers and their wild ride as they navigate this story.

Cause that was the whole thing with Entourage was always guys who are in this, normal guys are in this extraordinary circumstance now.

And I feel like you guys have that obviously going on with the ride that GoodGood's been, right?

Dude, yeah, that's crazy.

No, I definitely want to watch it.

I've seen like clips too on.

TikTok lately, because I looked you up and then you know the algorithm is like starts feeding me stuff.

Yep.

Yeah.

No, it's cool.

Jerry was about 70 pounds heavier, though.

It's true.

It's true.

Um,

so we broke down a little bit of Matt's run in the tournament, but you guys were there, and you know, but you were kind of giving us some analysis.

Did you get a good view of Matt drilling the kid flying the green?

Did you guys have a good view?

Oh, yeah,

I had a great view, too.

I was off to this point.

Wait, can I just can I just preface this really quick?

We did the episode last week, and I knew it was going, and I'm like, guys, I told Jerry, Jerry's a pretty good golfer.

I'm like, I feel like I could get good if I try, if I practice, because I can stripe the ball pretty good sometimes.

But like, I was terrified.

I was like, dude, it's on TV.

I'm going to hit somebody.

It's fucking bullshit.

I don't know why.

I'm going to go.

I'm going to call it a shot.

No, but I'm like, I'm in this mode where I'm just going to go have fun.

I'm going to meet the boys.

I'm going to have fun.

I'm getting into golf, whatever.

But I preface: I said, I'm going to hit somebody today.

That was my biggest fear.

And the second shot of the day, just stripe that kid right in the hip pointer.

Well, two things.

One, when you hit the kid, he got so excited.

I know.

He literally high-fived his friend next to him.

By the way, and so he DM'd me on Instagram like the next day.

And he goes, I'll read it.

I got to find it.

He goes, hey, Mr.

Liner, just what's up?

His name's Hunter.

My name's Hunter.

I'm the kid you hit today on the golf course.

He's like, what a great experience.

I'll never forget.

And I go, man, I'm sorry, dude.

Thanks for being a good sport.

And he goes, hey, do you think you can follow me on IG so I can show all my friends?

I go, done, bro.

Let's go.

That's all you got to do.

Yeah.

Nothing was scarier than when Jamal hooked that shot, though.

I forgot what hole it was.

Oh, gosh, yeah.

Oh, he hit it like a snap hook.

Yeah, snap hook right into the fans.

Yeah.

Driver?

Yes.

Do you not remember?

Buzzed him.

Yeah.

I might have been a couple of vodkas deep at that point.

It was right after I got you a drink.

It was right after I got you a drink.

Did you guys have a view?

Matt's going to be dining out on that Par 3 162 7-iron over the water that he spun back 20 feet.

Did you guys have a good view of it?

I was on the T-Box.

I was talking to it the whole time.

I was like, guys, this one has a chance.

This one has a chance.

You're welcome.

That's all welcome.

Oh, yeah.

By the way, I looked, I didn't, so this might be naive of me because I figured you guys are all pretty good golfers.

You guys are both pretty fucking good golfers, dude.

You know, we're not bad.

Not bad.

Not bad.

Blake, for a big guy,

you could fucking strike the ball.

And then Jackson, you had some funny videos on there.

Come on.

I don't know.

But do you ever, like, how often do you golf?

When not on camera.

Like, when you guys aren't doing it, not on camera?

How often do you have a recreational, like hey let's go play some golf no cameras i've probably had 10 of them since i moved down here yeah not often no i'm serious

exactly no well because it's almost like hey if we're gonna go play why not why like lose the content day out of yeah

if something amazing happens yeah there's like a couple things behind it like for example the one of the first times i ever got close to beating garrett was at pains valley and i was like up i was up three straight up seven with strokes with like seven to play and we weren't recording it and garrett came back and beat me.

So you, when you're not recording these rounds, you miss out on stuff like that.

Yeah.

But also.

So the rule of thumb, just like always be recording.

Like, what's the worst that happens?

You don't have a video.

You just scrap the footage or especially on part of the video.

You have to make a reel out of it or something.

Yeah.

I think for the other guys as well, they've been doing it so long that like

if they're not recording, they're not going to play.

Yeah.

Because it's a day off for them.

Why do they go play golf on a day off?

Essentially.

I guess I wouldn't show up on a film set if I wasn't working that day.

I would be like, well, I'm going to go by the set anyway and just hang out.

So, so where, so how did, so we didn't talk about this last week because we were a little, we were, you know, a little lathered up.

We had fun.

So how do you guys get involved with good, good, and what are exactly your roles?

Because I know, Blake, you said you like to kind of edit and kind of be behind the camera sometimes.

Like, what exactly do you guys do?

Yeah, give us a little origin story.

Yeah, yeah.

So I actually grew up with Garrett, or not grew up, but we met each other when we were like 14.

Same with some of the other guys, kept in touch with them like forever and then my content started doing really well three or four years ago doing mini golf stuff so i was just on tick tock posting mini golf like stupid mini golf trick shots stuff like that and that eventually led me into good good when they needed a guy since i already knew them all i would come down and hang out with them all the time stuff like that and then finally got the call up and then from there just i'm like a utility guy really us both yeah whatever they need us for we're there whether it's playing or filming or talking we can do yeah or commentating yeah it's fun

great commentating My story is a little different.

It has nothing to do with golf at all, actually.

That's right.

You told me.

Yeah.

So I met Garrett five years ago playing Call of Duty.

Hell yeah.

Yeah.

So love it.

Garrett put something on his story and was like, hey, if anybody wants to play Call of Duty with me, I need somebody good to, you know, take me on a job.

Carry me.

I need my backpack.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I texted him and I was like, hey, I'll play with you.

He didn't respond because, you know, he's Garrett Clark.

He big time to me.

He's big time.

Like, what?

And then eventually he he saw it he responded and the first day we played this is right when the game first came out and I dropped like a really high kill game that like nobody was doing so he was like oh wait we got to like keep playing so we kept playing this came that we talked for four years and then they went on like a little road trip and they were like uh

yo jackson we're we're coming to kentucky that's where i'm originally from and they're like you got to come I went and saw them, you know, we hit it off.

And then.

So you never met before that?

No, we never met.

So I met them when they were were on the road trip.

It was so crazy.

I remember, like, it was yesterday.

They were like, You have to drive.

I drove an hour out of the way to go see him.

Um, and then when we were there, I left.

Garrett was like, You know, love the vibe.

Come down to Texas for a week.

And this is where it gets crazy.

You were there.

That's what I was here.

I love this.

Yeah.

So I go to Texas for a week.

Blake's there.

This is the first time I was sleeping on the couch, just like visiting the boys.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It was, he was just visiting.

And then

I kind of, like, as a joke, was like, hey, I'll move into this office down here.

Like, you guys have this empty, like, podcast room office.

Nothing is in here.

There's no closet.

There's no bathroom.

Yo, I'll move in here.

I'll take it.

And they were like, okay.

And I was like, are you sure?

And they're like, sure.

And I dropped out of school that day.

You dropped out of school that day?

Yeah.

So crazy.

What year were you in?

Like, what you were doing?

I have a year left.

You had a year left?

Yeah.

What did the family say about that one?

My mom said, go and do it.

You know what?

That's a a good call.

My mom said

you would be stupid not to.

And look at you now.

So I slept on a beanbag for the first like two weeks, and then I slept on a couch for the next eight months.

God, dude, that just brings me back to college.

Oh, it was.

I mean, I wouldn't trade anything for the world.

I mean, when I first got down there, so.

You got the story, but my role first coming down here was like the live streamer.

I'm the video gamer guy.

If you need me behind the camera, I can do that.

But if you need me to play golf, I can also play golf.

So like a Swiss Army knife type of guy.

And then, so when I first moved down here, we would like all be gaming in my room.

And I have like a TV above my whole setup.

So, like, they would all be in there just watching me.

And it was like seven of us packed in a room.

Like, we're in college, like we're freshmen in college.

And yeah, I mean, it's insane.

It was the first.

I can't think of any better criteria than someone who's good with the camera, good with the golf club, and good with a controller or an oxen key on Call of Duty.

Those are three attributes that I would be very happy if my own sons grew up and had.

Oh, yeah.

By the way,

my junior year, I shared,

this is a funny story, too.

My junior year, the year I won the Heisman, I was sharing a room with my boy.

I was sharing a one-bedroom.

That's just live like, it was called the Caribbean.

This was when Halo had just came out.

So this was

way back to System Link, guys.

By the way, Land Party.

Just land party.

So system link.

So we had

all the cables wrapped around the whole apartment complex.

There's probably 20.

It was small.

And we would play like split screen, like 16 boxes, dude, on system link Halo with all the boys.

The boys would come over, the linemen.

It was

impressive.

He got Tallis and the linemen come in.

Oh, come here.

Oh, come here.

We got to take three minutes.

Hold on.

I'm going to put Cole on really quick.

Let's see him.

SMU's finest.

So you got Blake and Jackson from Good Good, and you know Jerry, but hold on.

We just tell them about your trip to Dallas.

One second.

Oh, here we go.

Cole liner.

Such a young show we got going on today with you guys.

I love it.

Cole Leinert, everybody.

SMU's finest.

What's up, Cole?

Hey, yo, yo, yo, what's up?

What's up?

How are you guys?

You had yourself a weekend, huh?

Or whatever.

Tell it, can you give us a little bit?

Yeah, yeah.

Friday, we get in, meet the recruits, hang with the coaches, had some meetings and stuff,

dinner, and then we got to take a photo shoot, which I'm sure you guys saw.

We saw

Punk Mac Dallas.

You got me me all fired up.

Oh, trust me, I'm fired up too.

But my dad got to get a few photos, and that was pretty cool.

My family, so that was awesome.

But it was overall just a great weekend, and I love everything about SMU and the culture and staff that they have.

So I'm really just pumped.

Which is crazy because you didn't even touch a ball yet.

You didn't even put your hands on the football yet in your family.

Didn't even touch a football.

Everyone being there, I was pumped.

But you guys are in Dallas.

We'll be hanging out.

I'll be honest.

Oh, yeah, for sure.

There's never a crew right here.

We've never been to an SMU game either.

Yeah.

So we're going to have to come.

There we go.

You can get tickets now.

Oh, yeah.

They said they'd never been to an SMU game.

And I said, let's go.

We got every.

Wait, real quick.

I know you guys like to do the like name the college that this player went to.

I'll hit you with an easy one.

Cole, this is relevant for you.

What college did Bryson DeChambeau go to?

SME.

SME.

SME.

He's the GOAT.

Yeah.

He's a stud, dude.

Watching him hit a golf ball is under real.

I'm just, he's hitting his, his his grips are literally like, I don't know.

He's like Andre the Giant grips.

Like

I don't want to talk about hitting golf balls.

My golf game is brutal.

Yeah, but you'll be one of those guys that like you'll pick it up in a year and you'll be like four handicapped inside of a year.

Yeah.

You'll pick it up real athlete.

I'd be in a shit.

I've been trying to golf hike my whole life with my friends and I am.

awful.

It's so tough.

It's so I can't like focus like that.

It was crazy.

Every shot I'm far right for.

You need 260 pound linebackers coming after you to be able to focus.

Yeah, at least that didn't hit someone like my pops though.

I don't think that hit someone, but hey, dude, I don't know.

No, we're proud of you, man.

My dad, my dad,

I appreciate you guys.

Nice to meet you, brother.

Nice to meet you, David.

We'll see you soon.

It'll be fun to hang out with him.

Oh, yeah.

Did, and tell real quick, well, here's a question for you guys because I know you've been around for a few years, and like when you kind of came in with Good Good, they were probably already a pretty big thing.

But was there ever any insight?

So

Entourage was notorious for cameos, right?

Where we had, you know, LeBron, James, Matthew, we had all these cameos over the years, became part of the show.

But early on with Entourage, it was impossible to get cameos because nobody kind of knew what the show was.

And they were like, Are you making fun of us?

We're real actors over here.

Do you ever get any insight?

Because now, like, you just had Jack Nicholas just did like a teaching video.

I saw and obviously clips with Jason Day, Bryson.

Like, it must have been hard, probably, to get PGA guys, particularly to come on the channel back in the day, right?

Dude, yeah.

I mean, we both joined at like a later stage.

Right.

There was already success there.

But I think, too, what helps GoodGood a lot was like, it was built up just with the guys and it was like standalone.

Like we didn't need, they didn't need the collabs because I think that helps in the content space.

Like if you're relying solely on who you have on and who you're playing with.

you can't stand alone but like good good was able to build by themselves and so now it's like being partnered with Callaway One is huge, all their pros.

And then like we, we worked with Play Yellow, which is Jack's charity.

So that got the Jack.

So like now I feel like the collabs are great.

But I think, you know, being able to build yourself without collabs early on, like sets you up for, for just the future, because people are watching you for you, not the, not who you have on.

Yeah.

You guys have a big, you have a big event coming up in Chicago, right?

Yeah.

Well, one, I'd love for you guys to explain it a little bit, but two, also, where, where do you see, because I was reading articles about you guys after and just like fascinated by the growth.

I think it's awesome, just all the boys hanging out, playing golf, shooting the shit, and you guys are awesome getting to know you.

What's the vision for good good,

you know, like over the next handful of years?

Is it to become, you know, like more products?

Are you going to do golf clubs?

Is it like, I know it's a clothing and kind of this lifestyle YouTube stuff.

Like, what's the vision for you guys?

Yeah, man.

I mean, I think for the most part, like becoming more of a standalone apparel company, like where, because it's getting to the point now, too, where you see people wearing a good, good hat and they have no idea who we are.

Like, no, like, or anything content, like, because they just bought it at Shields or Dicks or Golf Galaxy or whatever.

So, like, I think getting to the point where the company is almost separate from the company.

Like, I don't think the content will never stop.

Like, we're just going to keep cranking.

And no plans to stop that.

But I think, you know, continuing to grow the actual brand outside of content is definitely like the main goal.

Yeah.

Because the content right now and early on is is what drove people to buy the merch.

But then eventually, when you get, like Blake said, you get the merch in these stores, people are going to go and buy the clothes just because they like what it looks like.

So, like, for example, I'm golfing in the middle of nowhere in Beaumont, Texas, and this guy is wearing a good, good hat.

And I go, oh, nice hat, you know?

And he goes, oh, yeah, I got this one and I got a bad hat.

And I was like, oh, like bad birdie.

And he was like, I have no idea.

I just, when I play good, I wear the good hat.

And when I play bad, I wear the bad hat.

So it's like, it's like the clothes itself will become something that's even as big as the YouTube channel once time goes on and people keep buying them in dicks.

And like, if you, I don't know if you guys have gone to dicks or shields or golf.

They're all over dicks.

I'd say

they literally have like their own section.

It's insane.

It's so cool.

Like I used to work at Dicks in college.

Like,

so I'm going in.

I'm looking at the good, good stuff.

I'm like, dang, why couldn't this be here when I was here?

I'm holding out for that good, good care package.

That's why I got you guys on on here.

We'll dial it in.

I'm sending one out today to another guy.

Shoot me your stuff.

I was definitely an early,

you know, YouTube golf guy because I love golf so much.

But similarly, like there was this interesting crossover.

We were talking video games early.

And I remember some of my friends and even like my older brother, like when I would watch streams on Twitch, like, wait, you're watching.

other guys play video games how was that fun i'm like you just don't get it then it's fun and obviously i was right they were wrong and it exploded similarly with like youtube golf i would get from some of my friends like but why wouldn't you just watch like the you know the rocket mortgage event or whatever i'm like i do but there's something about when i'm not playing golf that i like watching guys that are real friends and giving us insight into the round and some of them are really good but like they sometimes like can hit shots like i hit that are not very good and it's funny all those like kind of old head friends that i have that were initially like i don't get why you watch like other guys play golf, go play golf, now obsessed.

And they talk about it as if like, now I'm left out of the conversation.

Like, I put you guys onto this.

It must have been really fun.

And I guess the side question to that is,

what are some

collaborations we'll call it outside of YouTube golf, whether it's a PGA golfer or an actor or another, like you guys just had all these football players.

Like, who are you guys targeting?

What's like a dream collab?

Like, you know, who we really like, Scotty Show, or whoever.

Like, what's uh is there someone out there you could reveal because you guys have gotten so many people already yeah like a good like a good collab coming up or like a personal like goal could be you know coming up or just one that like you would love to see happen let me guess he went to penn state oh he did let me tell you

i mean saquan saquan i mean because he's a big golfer he is a big golfer he's a big golfer and i mean i think

is that him is that your dream is that your dream that would be my dream collab just like anything with the eagles or like just penn state in general just like hey shout out really quick shout out to james Franklin and Penn State.

Did I FaceTime?

No, I just called him.

Oh, you called him.

I called James Franklin the other night.

Me and Jackson had a couple of drinks, and James answered, but he was like, hello.

And then he texted me.

It was literally

1 a.m.

Sploosh had like a three-minute conversation.

Let's go.

We are.

He texted me the next morning.

He's like, dude, I was sleepy.

I go, my bad, man.

My bad.

Saquon, how about you, Blake?

I already know his.

His has got to be Patty.

Well, yeah.

So currently we're doing an NFL series.

So we did the Eagles, which actually was we were supposed to play with Saquon.

It was all set up, but it was the day after the Met Gala.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

He pretty much told the guys like that day that he needed someone to fill.

So Dallas Goddard ended up filling for him, which was great because I love Goddard.

But so we're doing like NFL series.

We did the Philadelphia.

We did the Bengals.

Tomorrow, we're actually filming with Dak, Pickens, and CD.

here in Dallas.

Oh, that's a good one.

I don't, I mean, I don't know when this podcast will come out, but they'll see that eventually.

But so, yeah, whenever the Chiefs collab happens, that will be.

I mean, Mahomes is my guy.

We used to play the same golf course.

I'd see him at the golf course all the time.

He's a good golf course.

I was just in his event a couple weeks ago.

He's a good golfer.

How does that happen?

Do you guys reach out or do they reach out?

Or yeah, I mean, a lot of us follow.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think you know, you can follow.

You can, it can start with a DM and, you know, it goes from there.

Or, uh, like, I'm pretty sure Dak approached Blake or Brad.

Yeah.

Dak approached Brad somehow, and then they set this up.

So, yeah.

Brad is an absolute monster.

He's sustained at golf.

Sonny, unfair.

By the way,

if you got Patty and Kelsey, because they both love golf, that's that would be such a banger.

Yeah.

So that's the one I'm like holding out for because just as a Kansas City guy, that would be peak.

Same with like Royals, too.

I want to do a baseball series eventually also.

With Bobby.

Yeah, that'd be sick.

I only have to hold out for when you guys do TV actors from the early 2000s.

That's when I guess I got a whole close of them.

So I still stand by this.

So week one, we're going out to Ohio State, Texas, which is like the biggest game of the year.

And usually we stay at Muirfield and

we can get on Muirfield.

And Jerry lives, Jerry lives in Cleveland.

He's about an hour from Muirfield.

So I was like, let's do it.

Why don't we do a big thing with Big Noon, Good Good?

Mark Ingram, Urban, Brady, me, Jerry can come and we'll just Brady Quinn's the hook on the plug at Muirfield.

Well, so is Urban.

They're both members there.

Yeah, they're both members.

Well, we're going to do that.

We're going to have a whole conversation with you, actually.

Yeah, what seriously?

Do we need to have?

I don't know if we're allowed to say what we're doing.

No, yeah, say it.

We could add that if you needed to.

We're coming out with a college line.

We're coming out with college clothes.

So there's going to be an SMU hat, Penn State.

At.

I don't know if there's USC.

There is USC.

There is.

Okay.

There's a Trojans at Penn State.

By the way, I'm already seeing a deal with my oldest when he's at SMU.

All right.

Should we do?

So you guys are playing the college game then this whole time?

We got some names for you, boys.

This is what we did.

We were literally walking down the fairway.

So, okay, this is really what happened.

Garrett and Matt were during, we're in the tournament, and I'm not the kind of guy that's going to like step on toes and act like I need to be inside the ropes.

You know, I'm over on the side just driving Blake's cart around, right?

Garrett, I don't feel like I saw you till like whole six.

Yeah, because I was just letting you guys do your thing.

I didn't want to like interfere with anything.

And then Garrett comes up to me.

He goes, Do you hate me?

And I'm like, no, I what?

And then he goes, walk with us.

So I was like, okay, Ashton, take the card.

I'm going to go walk with these guys.

And then Garrett on the green literally goes, yeah, Jackson, for some reason, can name literally every college player.

And I was like, okay, I can't do that.

And then, so me and Matt, we just start walking down the fairway.

And we're like, Mark Ingram, where do you go to college?

And then he easy, bam,

dog.

And then just like randomly, the entire time, just naming athletes.

And I think that's literally what

started our friendship.

Now, is it just football or could you go basketball?

I could go basketball.

I mean, I went to the University of Kentucky.

So I went to a pretty big basketball school.

Well, some of these we have.

Now I'm worried because of like the age.

I wonder if we went too far back.

What do you think of the list, Matt?

Did we go too far back?

So we're doing no, we're doing front nine and back nine.

Front nine is going to be a little easier.

This is fucking easy, dude.

These are easy.

They will get harder.

You've seen our ball knowledge.

Yeah.

You're going to have to.

Yeah, it's pretty good.

That's what I'm saying.

It's pretty good.

You want to take the wheel, Matt?

Oh, no, not Rayjean Rondo.

Okay, he literally went to Kentucky.

Okay, we'll start you off with a gentle handshake.

How about Drew Brees?

Purdue.

Okay.

Dog.

Dog.

Jackson.

Stay hot.

Dwayne Wade.

Marquette.

These are the easy ones.

Ben Simmons.

LSU.

This one's easy.

I don't even know if we should ask this one.

By the way, we talked about...

Oh, well,

C-Mac, you know.

C-Mac.

Christian McCaffrey?

Stanford.

Where'd his brother go?

Where does Brother Heart?

Where does Brother go?

Yeah, where'd his brother go last week?

I didn't even know McCaffrey had a brother.

Where'd Luke go?

Where'd Luke McCaffrey go?

luke mccaffrey went to uh

didn't he transfer no give me the state give me the state oh i don't know the state oh he'll know the state i think it's what conference a bowling green we talking here no dude i don't know the conference baby conference usa

what where you go rice rice houston

okay it is here okay i mean in it's in houston texas rice is in houston texas all right i'm gonna step out and johnson yeah

georgetown no No, not Georgetown.

Georgia Tag.

Yeah, you had it.

We knew you knew it.

Georgia Tech.

George Attack.

Georgia Tech.

All right.

Let's go.

Well, I'm saving this one.

Let's go.

Matt Schaub.

That's not how you even say his name, Jason.

Is it Matt Schaub?

Schaub.

Schaub.

This is the first one you're going to stump me.

I know he played for the Texans.

I don't know.

Yeah, we played.

He played.

Well, it might have been before your time.

He was Virginia.

Virginia.

Yeah, I would never have guessed that.

Le'Veon Bell.

You too young for Le'Veon Bell?

No.

You played for the Doggers?

Yeah.

Dog.

Dog.

Do you know?

I don't think I know.

I don't.

By the way, I don't even know.

Who's that?

You don't even know, Jerry.

Michigan State.

Wow.

Oh, really?

Okay, I knew that.

I knew that.

I knew that.

I knew that.

These are the harder ones.

All right.

I'll sprinkle in the easier one: Bradley Beale.

Florida?

Yes.

I knew you'd get that one.

Yeah.

Okay.

Ricky Fowler.

Ooh, OSU.

Yeah.

Yes.

Oklahoma State.

Adam.

Scotty Scheffler.

Come on.

You know that.

Was it Texas?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yep.

John Rom.

He went into ASU.

Yeah.

Yes.

We found your sweet spot.

How about Baker Mayfield, but where did he start his ball at?

Okay, this is easy because I told you.

I literally

do Baker?

Yeah.

No, I literally said, well, who did he give a tour to in college?

Oh, yeah, you're right.

Okay, hold on.

Pat Mahomes.

Really?

Timeout.

Hey, if you guys get this, you guys are OGs.

Oh, boy.

Okay.

Aaron Rodgers, but

where did he start?

Before Cal.

Before Cal.

Oh, I'm not going to get that.

This is well documented.

I saw the documentary and I don't remember.

You watched this documentary.

I don't know.

By the way, I don't know.

No offers out of high school.

Wow.

So he went to junior college.

Okay.

Garden City.

Garden City community.

I can only name like three Jucos in the world.

Butte Junior College.

Look it up.

Where's that at?

Yeah.

Dog.

Last chance you.

All right.

We got a few more.

This one would be tough.

This one might be before your time, but it's a Dallas guy, Tony Romo.

Tough.

No, this isn't tough.

This is

not a big time.

It's a small school.

No, I know.

That's why I know it.

Come on.

Come on.

on, dog, Donald Jackson, dog.

Oh, is it a Texas?

Well, we'll come back to it, yeah.

Come back to that, come back to it.

Uh, Bucky Irving, oh,

you know what?

I was gonna ask you, dude, he's a rookie at the end of the day.

I don't know him, I don't know it.

I was gonna ask you this the other day because I didn't know it.

Wow, really?

Where's Isla?

Bucky Irving,

no, Morgan Johnson.

Picture it on the Corey.

Yeah,

wow.

You guys will never get Jim Furick.

Oh, my God.

I mean, he's older than you For you guys.

We played

before.

Arizona.

Clay Thompson.

Washington State.

Very good.

You are the real TRIC.

You know what?

I tried to recruit Clay Thompson to USC.

I was on the phone call with him.

Where did his brother go?

Do you know where his brother, what, sports?

Trace Thompson?

Yeah.

I mean, he played for the Dodgers.

My novel Dodgers.

I don't know that.

He played in the MLB.

Tyreek Hill.

Oh, we did.

OSU.

OSU.

No,

we started.

OSU.

Well, different

OSU.

Oh, different.

Different

state?

Yeah.

University of West Alabama first, and then he went to Oklahoma State.

Oh, I got one.

Time out.

I got one.

Oh, gosh.

He's smiling.

Devin Singletary.

Oh,

this is tough, bro.

I don't know.

I'm looking it up just because I want to know.

Is this not the greatest game ever played?

We did this till 2 a.m.

the other night.

I know.

Oh, this is

the one.

I'll give you.

How about I'll get

a coffee view?

Well, how about I I just give you the team name

their mascot the owls temple nope no good guess though uh conference I don't even know I think they're conference USA conference USA

they're in the they're in the they're in the state of Florida they're in the south state of Florida oh is that

no no it's not FGCU you guys have a name oh it's um it's um faux yep we gave you some time are we are we admitting admitting defeat on Tony Romos College?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Definitely.

All right.

It happened.

Wait, Jimmy Garpolo.

Illinois University.

Yeah.

Jimmy Garoppolo?

Doesn't that work?

Jimmy G went there, I'm pretty sure.

So before we let you go, you got a big event in Chicago.

Chi Town next.

Yeah, yeah.

I don't want to say it wrong, but it's King of the Mountain, I believe.

Yeah.

It's a mountain dude.

Yeah.

And that's just your crew, right?

That's your guys?

I think it's 16 people.

16 people, eight teams, and it's like a knockout, I'm pretty sure.

Yeah, yeah.

Will you guys golf?

Will you guys play?

I'm not sure.

I hope so.

Oh, you know, maybe?

Just stay loose.

Stay loose.

I got to be ready always.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We got to come eat up some innings.

Yeah.

We got a lot of stuff.

You guys are awesome, man.

We'll link up in the fall, if not before, for sure.

But let's talk about the college stuff.

Yes.

And keep my guy, Maddie Ice, golfing.

Like, we got it.

No, he's got it.

By the way, I'm going to Tahoe in three weeks.

Oh, are you playing?

Accenture.

I'm playing with Austin Reeves on Wednesday.

Oh, that's what you said.

That's sick.

Yeah.

When you come back to Dallas, but here's the problem, bro.

I'm playing 18 holes with him.

I played 12 the other day, and I faced out after five.

I'm playing all 18 holes.

You're gonna be fine.

I'll be an athlete, though.

Yeah, you'll be an athlete.

You're an athlete.

Fellas, can't thank you enough.

Thank you guys so much.

Yeah, thank you.

That's so funny.

Boys, you're good.

You guys are awesome.

Thanks for getting my man Matt further on the golf grind.

Absolutely.

Thanks.

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We'll be back.

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what they're kind of selling those two are you know tremendous that's a tremendous hang right there i see why you had some we had a blast dude we had such a blast should we do a little mailbag it's been

all right what we got i pulled one and i got to read it again to understand it but if i'm understanding this correctly i got a lot to say it's from Julian in California.

Okay.

Youth sports question.

And hopefully this isn't too confusing.

My son's third grade

little league team has a five-run rule to prevent an inning from getting out of control.

However, in the last inning of the game, let's say you've scored four runs and the bases are loaded and you hit a grand slam.

They won't cut it off at five.

They'll allow the four runs to count.

But again, that's just in the last inning.

Okay, we're following.

So in this scenario, in my son's game, four runs were in, bases were loaded, and the lead was two.

The coach then intentionally walked in the run to hit the five-run rule to end the inning and the game with a one-run win.

Again, this is third grade.

Is this smart managing or a lame way to win?

Let me ask this question.

Is this all-stars or is this regular season?

We don't have that information.

Julian, if write us back, I mean.

Because I will say this.

It's third grade.

Yeah.

If this is an all-star,

all-star tournament, which I can't imagine.

It could be.

It could be.

So what are they, nine years old?

Nine years old, probably.

Eight, nine years old.

So it should be kid pitch.

So

if it's all-stars, listen, I'm doing anything to win in all-stars.

I was a part of it with Cole.

I will, we intended.

Even at this age.

Absolutely.

In all-stars, which is important.

Which is the higher level.

You're higher.

You're trying to win to advance whatever.

And the rules are the rules.

Is it Bush League?

Absolute fucking lootly.

But I would do it in all-stars.

Now, in the regular season, I mean, I would probably go up to the coach and be like, what the fuck are we doing here, buddy?

Yeah.

But I have no problem with that in all-stars.

So playoffs, playoffs.

I'm trying to win, dude.

I'm teaching my kids that we will win.

And if there are a rule, you follow the rule.

That's like whatever.

Now, I agree with you.

Like the win-it-all cost thing, I do think we, you know, it's gotten away from us a little bit over the the years with, oh, no one won.

It was a tie.

Like teaching your kids how to lose is just as important as teaching your kids how to win.

I've had it.

I had a thing happen with my six-year-old in soccer.

He was doing really well.

One of the kids on the other team didn't really love that and like kind of swung at him.

It was a wild scene.

I won't get fully into the details.

Here's my problem with it, Matt.

Even at the all-star level, at that age, don't you want your team to simulate the experience once that rule goes away when they get older, and that rule will go away when they start getting into 10, 11, 12 baseball, if they still love it.

Don't you want your kids to feel, even at all-star level, feel that stress of you're on the mound, bases loaded, two-run lead, work yourself out of this?

And don't you want the other team to get the chance to get the at-bat with the bases loaded and a chance to walk off?

You're robbing that experience.

You're taking that.

But that's a real baseball experience dude you can't be like it's not a real baseball experience because there's limited runs this isn't real baseball that you can't they will play real baseball yeah so like when they won't be available yeah so then you cross that bridge when they get there i i literally dealt with this in all-star baseball we had scenarios where it's like well oh the time we had a kid that someone was telling me the other day maybe it was you telling me i don't know someone's like oh we have six minutes left before no new dead no new winning so let's milk it we would our coaches would go out and talk to the pitchers for like a minute and the ump would say, what?

You would just kill it.

Crazy.

How old are we talking for that?

How old are we talking?

All-stars, dude.

9, 10, 11, 12.

I think

it's crazy.

Regular season, you let the games play.

Now, this was little league.

Little league playoffs.

I'm trying to win.

Now, am I going to like, yes, like three, two, bottom of the ninth, there's one runner on.

Like, yeah, but if there's rules and you can, you can kind of bend the rules and figure it out, then yeah, like you milk the clock as much as you can.

So they don't get that last step back.

By the way, they just did that in my son's and Kayson's five and six-year-old shit, which I was pissed.

I was like, because, dude, we're technically not even keeping scores.

Right, right.

At that age, I don't care.

But like nine years old, it's real kid pitch.

But if it's, if it's a regular season game, it's bush league.

If it's playoffs, I get it.

I get it.

I think it's corny.

I think that's a good thing.

I think you're actually telling your team, we're not good enough to get out of this situation.

So let's win on a technicality.

Like to me, you're telling the team of young kids, I don't think we're good enough to get out of this situation.

So let's walk in the guy, get the one one.

By the way,

there was a Oregon versus Ohio State last year.

I'm going to butcher what happened, but there was a technicality.

And this is at the highest level of college football.

It was like one versus two.

Oregon sent like...

12.

I remember whatever reason.

They got a flag, but the clock ran out.

It was like one of these things.

They were so smart that based on a technicality, they intentionally did that.

They eventually won the game because the clock run out for Ohio State.

How did that work out long-term for Oregon?

It doesn't matter.

Who won the national championship?

In the moment, they didn't believe in their defense.

So to your point,

your point is a moot point.

It doesn't mean anything.

People are doing that at all.

I think that it's important for that kid on the mound to potentially give up a basis clearing double that ends the game.

And then you got to deal with that kid handling.

I probably believe in participation trophies.

No, I think it's the opposite.

I think you're doing a part.

I think that's doing a participation trophy.

Hey, we got this one run league.

We could actually end the game now and not play.

We could not play.

If the game is important, you're not playing.

If the game is important, whether it's all-stars and again, like big picture eight.

I think that's more a participation trophy than playing it out straight up.

You win in advance.

You win in advance.

That's actually being, that's actually being very smart.

That's smart coaching, if it matters.

Coaching, does it teach the kids anything?

I mean, are we really teaching the kids anything?

They're in third grade.

Like, are we, see, this is why I think it's more participation trophy.

Are we trying?

Why?

Because we don't want, like, what if the kid strikes out with the bases loaded?

Then he strikes out.

But what if I'm saying is, like, why

not?

Gapper and scores all three loads.

Why not give, like, we're losing the opportunity for the real world part of sports, which is winning and losing.

And you're just saying, hey, we got this one run lead and there's a dumb rule.

So this way we could keep the game moving.

Let's end the game and not play it out.

They're not playing the game out.

They end it.

I think that's like the opposite of participation.

So let's move on.

Julian, buddy,

I would get that rule.

The last inning should be the last inning.

Whatever happens in the last inning happens.

I hate that rule, Matt.

I don't mind.

I do too.

I don't mind it.

And I'm just telling you, we've done stuff where we've milked the clock.

And again, we've had that against us and we're pissed.

But I'm like, but if it's like a regular season, Little League game on a Wednesday night and everyone's like, I'm like, no, you just play the game.

You let them experience.

You play the game.

And then in the playoffs, you really start to, we did this in All-Stars every summer, dude.

You have to be ready.

And Ohio State Oregon is a perfect example of a technicality.

And it won the game for them in the regular season.

It was a massive game.

And everyone's almost like

there's like one out.

Play chess, not checkers.

Right.

But so then, are you saying then, like, with the other coach it would have been smarter for the other coach to maybe

have like

have one of their base runners get thrown out so the bases weren't loaded therefore the threat of it being like you know what i'm saying like there's so at some point you're taking away the kids actually playing the game

If you're at the major league level, do what you got to do.

Fine.

You're playing for millions of dollars and all that.

Fine.

Exploit the rules.

You want to do hack a shack?

Fine.

Explain the rules.

You're thinking about like the emotions of the game for these kids.

I'm thinking like I would want my kid or whatever to be like, hey, you're on the mound.

You have a chance to win a crazy game and let's see what you got.

Or the kid at bat, like, you have a chance to hit a walk off in a big game.

Let's see what you got.

And if you strike out, we'll deal with it.

Instead, it's like, no, intentional walk.

Can we move on to Nissan?

Let's move on to Nissan, bro.

I can't believe I bored you with this.

I mean, we're just,

you know, it's like beating a dead horse, bro.

We're just talking in circles.

I hear you.

I hear you.

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It's working on their opponents.

It worked to perfection and the Oilers gained, lost their cool.

So I guess my question for you, Matt, you know, playing both the highest level of collegiate and pro football, was there ever an irritant that stuck out to you, whether, or on your own team, where you're like, I'm actually glad I don't have to play against this guy because he's annoying me, or someone on the other team?

We, yeah, I mean, so we had a guy, Deuce Latouille, my teammate, who I love.

He was my guard tackle in USC, and then he got, he, I was a first-round draft Arizona pick.

He was a second-round pick.

So we were together in Arizona, too.

I love

him.

But he was one of those, he had probably like

three or four uh like misconduct like late hit penalties because he was always and he was 6'5 350 huge but he would jump on the pile late he would you know talk shit laugh at you so like he was he was one that kind of stands out that i know everyone hated playing against because he was good but he also was like just one of those the one player that stands out who i played against was cortland finnegan oh yeah yeah yeah and then then, you know, when you think of Cortland Finnegan, you think of the Andre Johnson

fight.

I was on the sideline for that.

I had a front row.

It was amazing.

But Cortland Finnegan was like 5'7 ⁇ , probably a little taller, maybe a little shorter, 180.

He was a good player.

He was a good player.

Tough.

But he would just irritate you.

He would talk shit.

He would like hold.

He was just one of those when you watch film, you're like, you kind of wanted to pick on him, but he was good.

But he would also like, he just talks talks so much there's a kid um gardner johnson i think gardner johnson's one of those yeah just like he's been on five teams now like where he just talks like he just talks like like provokes you into late hits like that like one of those who's the dude that mike evans always dusts up yeah cortland finnegan was that for us and for andre and andre i mean andre was a hall of famer he didn't give a but it was like on He just would guard Andre and he would just, you know, punch him at the line and just be in his face.

And Andre and just like, dude, get the fuck out.

He was like, Marshawn Lattimore and Mike and Mike Evans on sight just start hitting each other.

Now, that's like a one-on-one bad blood because Marshawn Lattimore, like, he's not, he's a good, he was a good player.

Finnegan just was a yapper.

He just, he's like, you know, like, Draymond Green is probably that for a lot of people in the basketball world, right?

CJ McConnell, torture.

Yeah, you want, you want on your team, but like you hate playing against.

So shout out to Cortland Finnegan.

Well, we got one more Nissan adventure.

29 years ago,

basically on Wednesday, yesterday, Michael Jordan flu game happened.

So it got me thinking, right?

You know, I always try to find the comparison of Hollywood and acting and sports.

Do I have a flu game situation?

Now,

I've had to be on set and act through numerous bouts of flu and sickness because you can't really call in sick.

It's almost impossible with acting.

You really have to be knocking on death's door almost to get a day off when you're on set because it just costs so much money and it's so hard to move things around.

So I've played sick.

I've acted sick all the time, but the one that always stood out for me, I did this movie called Las Vegas, right?

Robert De Niro, Michael Douglas, Morgan Freeman, Kevin Klein, Mary Steenberg, all these great names.

Like I'm the name that doesn't belong on that list.

However, and also being a part of a De Niro movie, the rumor was always De Niro works kid hours.

Like kids in Hollywood, they work eight-hour days.

That's it.

They can't do the fifth.

If you work with De Niro, you're doing nine to five and he's walking out the door.

which is insane i had a lot of scenes with him nine to five

so we had this big sequence in las vegas where morgan freeman's character has to like ballroom dance with this girl it's a big part of the whole movie and morgan freeman who's not a young guy this is 10 years ago comes to work like 103 fever right

if there's anyone on the face of the earth that could call in sick and say hey i'm not going to be able to do it today guys it's Morgan Freeman.

Morgan Freeman comes to Set and he says, Guys, I feel awful.

This is real bad, but I'm going to give you what I got.

And he was dancing with the young lady

by the way.

And dancing with the young lady, they call cut, they're wrapping him in blankets.

Now, they kept saying, Morgan, we will shut down set.

You don't have to work.

And they made it a little easier and they shortened the day and they picked up stuff later.

But Morgan Freeman, young actors out there,

102 fever.

I think he was late 70s at that point, and he worked a full eight-hour day just the just breathing on everybody.

Breathing on every this is long before COVID, so no one cared.

You were allowed to work sick, but uh, that always stuck out to me.

Morgan Freeman.

If anyone could take a day off, certainly would have been him.

So they don't make him like, they don't make him like Morgan Freeman anymore, man.

You know, my main goal on that job and last videos was to knock him fired.

I was about to say, by the way, just casually shouting, yeah, I had a bunch of scenes with De Niro.

Oh, yeah, Morgan freeman i was like can we talk about that next week shooting with well i'll leave you with a little teaser i think look those guys must know hey like a young italian kid comes on set they must know oh this guy probably idolized us they did this thing where michael douglas was such a who's a cool charismatic guy like they brought me over and started asking me questions so i think it like diffuses the okay let's get it out of the way that yeah it breaks the ice a little bit that you feel comfortable and then you go yeah totally broke the ice but i got some good stories from that movie oh we got it Hey, let's get De Niro on.

I mean, I have a fight scene with De Niro in the movie.

By the way, I saw that movie.

I don't remember.

I got to rewatch this.

I got to rewatch Civic In Hangover.

I got to go.

I know.

I got to go on IMDB, man.

I got to go IMDB you.

Well, shout outs to Morgan Freeman.

Shout outs to Cortland Finnegan.

And shout outs to Nissan.

Blake and Jackson.

Good, good.

Nissan.

Yes, Blake.

Jackson, Matt.

By the way,

I'm semi-flu game right now.

I ain't going to lie, dude.

I'm in pain.

I'm not going to talk about it, though.

Well, we'll leave you all with this message.

Just keep going.

Keep working.

Sick, flu get, whatever.

Just keep going.

Let's go.

We're back next week with another good one.

And Maddie, go, go rest up if you can.

I try, buddy.

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