Shedeur Sanders Pranked, Matt Leinart Punk’d and Stadiums We’d Like to See Revived

Speaker 1 Shador dropping to the fifth round. The prank call thing.
Look, it's it's a prank.

Speaker 2 No one got hurt. Yeah, but it's messed up.

Speaker 1 Like, I can't say, like, wow, you really like

Speaker 2 up, kid. Oh, I can.
That's grounds. That's grounds of getting your ass kicked, dude.
Trust me.

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Speaker 2 Can you hear me? Wait, hold on. Timeout.

Speaker 1 Matt, is someone, is that ice skating? I know you live in Southern California. Is someone ice skating in your studio? What is going on?

Speaker 2 What is it? I'd say, I think two weeks ago, because we were in Green Bay last week, two weeks ago, I started the show fired up because there's just a lot of shit happening, dude, around my house.

Speaker 2 And you know what?

Speaker 2 Some things don't change. I've been up for three hours.

Speaker 2 The flea guy, yeah, by the way, for those that are listening, if you've followed my flea journey, we still have fleas.

Speaker 2 Fucking Ghostbusters came again this morning and just, but they just did the room isolated in our bedroom, which is great. But we're finishing up our backyard.

Speaker 2 So today all the field turf goes in, which is a great thing, but they're just graveling the shit out of the wagons right next to me.

Speaker 1 So that's what we might be hearing from.

Speaker 2 So, yeah, no, we're good right now. From time to time, you might be hearing that.
I apologize. It shouldn't last that long.
But

Speaker 2 listen, I'm just trying to survive today, man. I'm just trying to get through.
It's 8.45 in the morning where I'm at, and I feel like I've had a full day already. Like I need a drink.

Speaker 2 Look, I always do respect.

Speaker 1 I always do respect in all of our throwbacks, group chats, or whatever. You know, I'm on East Coast time.
Our producer, Andrew, is on East Coast time. So, like, I'll see some messages.

Speaker 1 And I always just like, I'm going to wait a little while because I don't want to, Matt's probably not up. You're, you're like the first person to respond.

Speaker 1 I'm like, dude, 5.45 in the morning, Leinard's hitting back the group chats.

Speaker 2 Listen, if you, if you didn't know this about me already, like, I am, I'm a, I hate, I, you're not a great responder. You're not aware.
I'm terrible responder.

Speaker 1 I get overwhelmed.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's something we, it's something strange about you that I'm learning in our, in our journey of our friendship is you don't respond.

Speaker 2 I am such a fast, maybe I'm on my phone a lot, which is also a problem, but I can multitask. I'm a very quick responder.
So like if you text me, I'm texting you right back if I'm on my phone.

Speaker 2 When I text you, I might not hear. I've learned on the weekends with you, which I know is family and I get that, that I might not hear from you for like eight hours.

Speaker 2 And if I need something super important, I still might not hear from you for eight hours. That's what I'm gathering, dude.
It's fine, though. It's fine.

Speaker 1 Yeah, maybe that's the difference between like quarterbacks and actors as well, where it's like, you know, I think that is a very good quarterback thing. Like, hey, he responds, like, he's on it.

Speaker 1 When information's coming and going, Maddie Ice is taking it in, distributing us to his.

Speaker 2 That's a respectful thing to do.

Speaker 1 All right, before we get into it, we're going to recap everything that we did at the NFL draft. We're going to talk some of the Shador stuff.
We have to make mention of it.

Speaker 1 And then we're going to do some mailbag stuff later in the show. But I did something that you would completely disapprove of this weekend.

Speaker 2 What's that? So,

Speaker 1 you know, I come back from Green Bay. We'll talk about more Green Bay stuff.

Speaker 2 And I was at Travel Back, by the way.

Speaker 1 It was rough, rough getting back.

Speaker 2 Welcome to my life in the Midwest every weekend in the fall.

Speaker 1 But, you know, Bree

Speaker 1 had a birth.

Speaker 1 My wife is a duelist, so she was kind of gone the whole day. I had the kids, and I was just away for days, and I was happy to see them.

Speaker 1 But the Knicks were also playing, and we had a birthday, our kid birthday party at one o'clock. And this is going back a few days.
So the Knicks were playing at one o'clock.

Speaker 1 And I legitimately left my phone at home. And I recorded the game.
Ballsy. And we played.
Also, because my six-year-old's now obsessed with the Knicks. And we went to, it was like a soccer party.

Speaker 1 They rented out a soccer field, played soccer. We got home at three o'clock.
Game is probably in the fourth quarter. And like a Jedi master, I had the discipline.
I did not touch my phone.

Speaker 1 And me and Jacob powered through the whole game in an hour and 10 minutes. And then I looked at my phone.
You would never in a million years.

Speaker 2 I don't understand how people can re-watch a sporting event that has already happened.

Speaker 1 I just don't know. I'm not really re-watching it like a daylight.

Speaker 2 My buddy back in the day when TiVo was a thing,

Speaker 2 he would like TiVo Lakers games already already, by the way, already knowing the outcome, but would re-watch the game. And I'm like, what are you talking about?

Speaker 1 That's a little different. I don't see that.
I didn't know the outcome. I stayed off of it.
I had no idea what happened in

Speaker 2 the fact that, well, one, a couple of mistakes you made. One is when just not bringing your phone to a kid's birthday party, which we've talked to more.

Speaker 2 My only out at a kid's birthday party is pretending like I'm taking phone calls during it. So I don't have to socialize.

Speaker 1 It was a soccer party. I played goalie.
I was a stoke.

Speaker 2 Okay, so if you were interacting, that's fine. But when I, when I'm at a party, I'm on my phone.
Again, I'm not on my phone a lot, but when I need a break, I'm like, oh, I got to go take this.

Speaker 2 Oh, sorry, guys. I got to go take this.
And I'll just, I'll, listen, I'll go into the shitter of a friend's house and just sit there and just be on my phone for 10 minutes.

Speaker 1 I feel like that's what all our uncles and dads did back in the day, except, hey, I'm going to go out for a smoke.

Speaker 2 I'm going to go out for a cigarette.

Speaker 2 That's like the ultimate out at the party where you just don't want to socialize with the other people.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I thought it was good restraint by me. And I don't know if a lot of you do that there, but with the Knicks, that's the only team I would ever do that with.

Speaker 2 I guarantee you that everybody, and I care, I'd be curious. That's a good mail-bag question.
Like, do you, do you put your phone away so you can re-watch a game that's already happened?

Speaker 2 I think you're asking it the wrong way, though.

Speaker 1 I'm not re-watching a game. I know the result.
Like, the game's still going on, technically. When I turned it on in the first quarter, the game was in the fourth quarter, probably.

Speaker 2 That's just tough for me to want to sit.

Speaker 1 No commercials, no halftime?

Speaker 2 To sit for two hours to watch a game that's literally three hours ahead to catch up when the whole world is talking about.

Speaker 1 Also, you should know my remote skills, you would never have a lapse in action. That's the thing.
Their game is always on.

Speaker 1 I'll I'll even fast forward like a free throw if I know the guy's going to make both. I'm a Jedi with the remote.

Speaker 2 Wow. All right.
Well,

Speaker 2 we

Speaker 1 ventured. We partnered up with Triple Option last week, live shows all throughout Green Bay.
We basically created a draft house right across from Lambo, which was incredible.

Speaker 1 But it got off to an interesting start. We all fly in and we do our rehearsal.
We see the house and the space and it's dope.

Speaker 1 And then we go to dinner, the only steakhouse I think I really saw in Green Bay. I thought it was really cool.
You know, we we had a big crew, like 30 of us, and we were waiting to get seated.

Speaker 1 And in like the kind of semi-private room was Cam Ward

Speaker 2 having his

Speaker 1 night before the draft meal. I just thought it was really cool.
You're like, I got a quick glimpse at him.

Speaker 1 It's like, that dude literally tomorrow is about to be the number one pick and his whole life is going to change.

Speaker 2 He's, he's, yeah, I mean, it's, we kind of knew that. And yeah, he was in there.
I know Mark Inger went over to say what up to him. And I think even everything post-draft you've seen from him, just

Speaker 2 a very humble kid. Obviously, the family was there.

Speaker 2 You know, you saw the emotions of him getting drafted. I think there were things like he was calling each draft pick after they were to, like, like you just, you just saw it.

Speaker 2 Like, you saw how special he was. You know, I think throughout this process,

Speaker 2 you, you, you get glimpses, basically whatever narrative the media kind of wants to portray with these, these players.

Speaker 2 We've seen, I know we'll probably end up talking about Shador, and that was complete opposite of what happened, but you see a lot of these narratives being, you know, painted a certain way.

Speaker 2 So then, when you do get to see really just the raw emotion of that moment, we talked about it on the show, you know, like that, that's an incredible moment, whether you're drafted first or whether you're drafted in the seventh round.

Speaker 2 Like, it is a

Speaker 2 life-changing moment that you get to share. And then, and then the real work begins, right, to become a professional and make it.
But Cam Ward's a star.

Speaker 2 Best of luck to him in Tennessee. Obviously, he's a really, really talented player.
Seems like a great, great kid.

Speaker 2 And he least taught about number one overall pick. Got a lot of work to do, though.
He's got a lot. Do you say the least talked about?

Speaker 1 The least talked about

Speaker 2 one pick. Yeah, I mean, I think that's, that's the bummer of this draft that, um,

Speaker 2 and it's not technically Shador's fault, but the whole draft was about where he was sliding and where he was.

Speaker 1 It's the media's fault.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's like, let's cover everybody. And obviously, that was its own situation.
But yeah, it was like the most unassuming, least talked about, number one pick that I can remember.

Speaker 2 And that's kind of what this draft was anyway, outside of like Travis Hunter was the star of the draft.

Speaker 2 And then the conversation about Shador and essentially like who's going to draft him and how far does he fall? Like that was the whole narrative for three days.

Speaker 1 So, you know what else stood out to me when we were doing the live shows, Lambo behind us, meeting the people in Green Bay who are just awesome. Shout out.

Speaker 1 And like, you know, I think we even asked the question on the live show, like, would another cold weather city with an outdoor stadium ever get the Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 And obviously we saw it in New York and dome teams get it. But then when you look at Green Bay, it's like, yeah, you don't even know if they necessarily have the infrastructure for it.

Speaker 1 But the draft is the best, is like the next best thing. Because I always thought like, hmm, will I ever go to a draft, sit there at my buddies to hear someone's name get called?

Speaker 1 Like, you're really not watching

Speaker 1 a game. But when it's your city, like what they did with Key Golden too, I really do think that's the next best thing.

Speaker 1 And I really do think they should focus on the cities that don't get the Super Bowl bids.

Speaker 2 I think that's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 And I think that's what they'll do for that very reason.

Speaker 2 There's never going to be, never's a strong word, but I would bet that there's never going to be another cold weather Super Bowl. I think New York was maybe the last one.

Speaker 2 And actually, New York ended up having pretty good weather, right?

Speaker 1 It wasn't bad at all.

Speaker 2 Minnesota was a nightmare, but it was a dome. But I heard the weather was hard.

Speaker 2 Yeah. It's just, it's just not going to happen unless they have a dome.
But the NFL has done a great job

Speaker 2 in making this draft an event. It's a spectacle.
It's, it's great for these cities. It's great for the economy.
I mean, there was like, like, with all due respect to Green Bay, we were there.

Speaker 2 There's not much to do in Green Bay.

Speaker 1 Right. The team is the focal point.

Speaker 2 The team is the focal point. The downtown is about three blocks wide.

Speaker 2 We stayed 45 minutes away, but 200,000 people plus showed up on the first night.

Speaker 2 I don't even know where half those people stay in this, in the, in the, in the uh state of Wisconsin, but that's a it's it they've done and they make it a they make it a show, they make it a spectacle, it's a really, really well done.

Speaker 2 It's great for the and it honestly, it becomes like a really cool experience in a weekend for a lot of these people. And you can mix in, like you can go party, you can go out, you can go whatever.

Speaker 2 So, really, Green Bay did an awesome job. I mean, our, like you said, our house, the backdrop was Lambo, which was incredible.
The fans were awesome.

Speaker 2 It was just, it was just a really cool couple days out

Speaker 1 selfishly for me, too. You know, we did the triple option with, you know, Rob Stone, Urban Meyer, Mark Ingram, and our show crossover.
I got, I have not spent a ton of time with Coach Urban Meyer yet.

Speaker 2 You know, what are your, what are your thoughts of Coach Urbane?

Speaker 1 I have a full review. You ready?

Speaker 2 I have a full review.

Speaker 2 I want, because I would, this, people are going to listen to this, and we're going to, what are your full thoughts on Coach Meyer on what did you think of him before and leaving those couple days, spending a good, you spent time with him before, but like kind of probably, we were pretty, it was pretty intimate.

Speaker 2 We were in the air.

Speaker 1 I mean, I rode from the airport with, like, we landed together.

Speaker 2 Give me the review. Give me the pre and post.
Okay.

Speaker 1 So pre,

Speaker 1 my first encounters with him were through other like Sinclair events, and it was really cool. He has no fucking clue who I am, which is great.
Like, never saw Entourage, never saw a power.

Speaker 1 He only knows, like, some, he was probably told, told, oh, it's like a TV star.

Speaker 2 And he sees me like, this is the TV star. Really quick, really quick.
He used to always say, like, early on, hey, that Jerry, Jerry guy is a good dude, huh? Like, like, he does it.

Speaker 2 Like, that's what he says. I'm like, yeah, coach, like, yeah, he's done pretty, but, yeah, he was, yeah, he seems like he's, he's great, huh?

Speaker 2 And then he just, and then he'll, by the way, he never listens to anybody. He'll ask you a question.

Speaker 1 He doesn't watch TV.

Speaker 2 And then just go and talk to somebody else.

Speaker 1 But go ahead. So, yeah.
So, like, it was kind of cool. Like, he was not wowed by me, but he was still very, he was cool and cordial and asked some questions, everything you said.

Speaker 1 So we're off to like a decent start. And then I just hadn't really interacted with him a ton.
But to this point, he was like, almost seemed like very like patient with me.

Speaker 1 Like, all right, he's not a football guy. We'll get to know him.
So now I land in Green Bay and I get my bags and I'm hustling to the car because we have to go to rehearsal.

Speaker 1 And the, the person picking us up was like, are you here yet? I picked up our other guest. I'm like, I'm, okay, I'm riding with someone.
I'm like, oh, okay, I'm like 10 minutes away. I'll be there.

Speaker 1 Who'd you pick up? She's like, um, something Meyer.

Speaker 2 I'm like, oh, shit.

Speaker 1 So coach is out there standing and waiting for me by the car.

Speaker 2 You already were in the doghouse.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but no, we had a nice drive over. And then slowly over the week, he starts asking me questions like, so how were we all? How old were you when you started doing this entourage thing?

Speaker 1 And people are telling, Coach, you got to watch Entourage. It's a great show.

Speaker 1 And he's starting to see some of the fans that were at our draft house like interact with me and taking pictures, not saying I was a big deal, but he's starting to see it. And then he comes up to me.

Speaker 1 He's like, what's that entourage show on? It's an HBO. He didn't even know what it was on.
He's like, all right, could you set me up with it? I want to start watching it.

Speaker 1 So we get his iPad up in our little green room and I queue up the pilot. And I'm the first person you see in the pilot.
And I come walking on and he's like, that's you.

Speaker 1 He's like, you're a big boy back then. That was 203.

Speaker 1 And so now he's like fully in.

Speaker 1 on entourage. And by the end of the trip, it felt like Urban was like my uncle.

Speaker 2 and we just had this great rapport and he was like coming up to me like jerry what are we doing what are we doing jerry which i think he tells you guys all the time he's like what are we doing here today what are we trying to do his number one line is matt what are we doing like like what are we doing it could be about anything the fact that we are okay so trying to paint this picture so we're in this house and our green room is like you know like a like a bedroom like it's that good size like or like a garage right maybe i think it might have been the garage right so like and it's set up you know we had our like a a couch in there we're just kind of chilling off to the side and at that point that was before the show so like everyone's like excited like there's there's a lot of fans there i think there was a thousand people throughout the day like of foot traffic that came in throughout the day and

Speaker 2 coach is sitting on his ipad while we're all kind of standing around executives we're kind of like having our like we're just like shooting the

Speaker 2 and he's just watching on blasting

Speaker 2 blasting entourage on his ipad where he just like he's always just he stands it up. He's always like, he does this on the road with us all the time, but he'll be watching news.

Speaker 2 He'll be watching like YouTube official documentaries through Instagram. He'll scroll through Instagram.
Like, it's the funny.

Speaker 2 He's the greatest man.

Speaker 1 So then I start thinking, like, what if he likes it and we talk more about, you know, the age-old question is like, obviously, we always joke with you.

Speaker 1 Like, you would have been the easiest layup cameo of all time

Speaker 1 back in the day. But what could we do with Coach Urban Meyer on Entourage? How could we loop him in?

Speaker 1 I came up with a few things because you can't really believe that the Vince character would be playing any kind of a football player. But what if

Speaker 1 they're doing like a Tim Tebow movie and Johnny Drama thinks he can play Urban Meyer? So he requests to shadow Urban Meyer for a week while you're doing like big noon and stuff to get to know her.

Speaker 1 So you get this Johnny Drama Urban Meyer spin-off episode, which I think would be perfect.

Speaker 2 Johnny Drama is the best way.

Speaker 1 Johnny Drama wants to play Urban Meyer in the Tim Tebow story.

Speaker 2 Urban hates nothing more than being on set filming something. I mean, we've done a bunch of commercials

Speaker 2 over the years with Fox and Big Noon, and you kind of saw it there. It's what are we doing here? What are we doing? Hey, what are we doing? Sitting there.
So, honestly, you get drama.

Speaker 2 You get drama in one of his cranky moods and upset. That could be funny.
That could be.

Speaker 1 So, last thing to wrap up, Urban, I got a question. and this is a question for you.
Is it weird? Because look, I don't know what to call him.

Speaker 1 You all call him coach, but you all played professional football.

Speaker 1 Is it weird for a non-professional athlete to call a Hall of Fame coach just coach?

Speaker 2 Nope, not at all. I call him.
So that's left.

Speaker 2 Is that cool? Oh, way cool. Okay.
Yeah. Because I'm not going to call Urban.

Speaker 1 That feels weird. Like, hey, Urban, can you come over here?

Speaker 2 Yeah, because he's just got a, you know, it's just, he's got a, he's got a unique name. We, his wife, we call him Herbs.
That's, that's when you get to know him real quick, real, yeah, I'm not there.

Speaker 2 Come Herbs.

Speaker 2 It feels good to call someone.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to lie. It feels good to be like, hey, coach, it just feels awesome.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think, I think, if I, like, if I go up to, and again, I know coming from an athlete, but yeah, that's totally, totally fine. I think if I saw.

Speaker 2 Like if I saw, you know, obviously Pete Carroll, if I saw any coach tomorrow in like a grocery store, I'd be like, hey, what's up, coach?

Speaker 1 What if you saw Brian Dable in the grocery store tomorrow?

Speaker 2 I would say, Coach, Matt Liner, what's up, buddy? And he's like, hey, Matt, what's going on? Like, that's, that's what I would do.

Speaker 1 So would it, I just, I wonder, is it weird if like some

Speaker 1 out of shape actor is like, hey, coach, what's going on?

Speaker 2 I think, honestly, universally fans, anyone calls him coach. Like, that's just what he goes by.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I always had a weird thing with, as a professional, it's, it's, this is so funny because when you're in college, you call your head coach, you call them coach, right?

Speaker 2 Like coach, like Sark, or I called Sarkesian Sark, but like it was, you know, I never called him Coach Sark, but he went by Sark, which was kind of a nickname. I didn't call him Steve.

Speaker 2 When you get to the NFL,

Speaker 2 it's because, you know, you're just grown. You call all your head coaches by their first name.

Speaker 2 So if you, and like in the NBA, if you've seen press conferences, it's like, you know, like whatever, New York Knicks. Who's the New York Knicks? Oh, Tom.

Speaker 2 Yeah, like, or they'll call him Tiz because that's their nickname.

Speaker 2 But like, like Pete, like Pete Carroll, like, when you're in the NFL, you're like, oh, yeah, Pete said this, or like JJ, like, you know, JJ Redding.

Speaker 2 We never, it's, it's, there's like this automatic, once you get to the professionals, it's like, we're going to call our coach by our first name. I love it.
It's really, it's strange. Yeah, it's cool.

Speaker 1 And some people take it too. Do you know Chandler Parsons at all or no?

Speaker 2 A little bit, yeah.

Speaker 1 He calls everybody coach. Yeah.
He calls me coach. I was supposed to play golf with him in Vegas during the Super Bowl and I get a text at like 7 a.m.

Speaker 1 Hey, coach, not going to be able to make the tea time.

Speaker 1 Like, why is this dude calling me coach?

Speaker 2 now it's just like a thing there's everyone coach there's a handful of of people

Speaker 2 coach wansted calls everybody coach i think there's there's a handful of people that just like

Speaker 2 say that i think tom i think brady and edelman it calls him bubs

Speaker 2 you've probably heard edelman say that edelman calls me bubs hey bubs so like i don't know i think some sometimes it sticks and these people just do i have the balls to call coach meyer herbs like i i'm not there yet i feel like i had to wait for one more by the way when you do, I'm going to film that shit because that's herbs.

Speaker 2 By the way,

Speaker 2 he can't hear in one ear anyway, so he probably wouldn't even hear you.

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Speaker 2 Green Bay was great, dude.

Speaker 1 Green Bay was awesome. The draft was,

Speaker 1 you know, definitely no surprises in some ways, and then tons of surprises in a lot of others. I don't know if we need to cover Shador dropping to the fifth round like everybody.
I'm more so.

Speaker 1 I found myself wanting to talk more about the prank call thing. I don't know how much you were paying attention to it or saw it.
And

Speaker 1 I had immediate thoughts.

Speaker 1 And obviously, look, it's a prank. No one got hurt.

Speaker 2 So like, yeah, but it's messed up, bro.

Speaker 1 It's so, it's like, I can't say like, like, wow, you really like fucked up, kid, but it's more just like,

Speaker 2 that was really clearly done.

Speaker 1 Well, more so, like, that's grounds that's that's grounds of getting your ass kicked dude well trust me tell me what you think of this because look i grew up i'm 45 years old i remember the jerky boys album right all those dudes did was prank call people and kind of abuse them on the phone and they made a lot of money off doing that so i'm about to say might contradict that but you know you kind of used to do pranks back in the day to try to like make your buddies laugh and nowadays it's a real culture where it's pranks for views right?

Speaker 1 There's that one kid. I don't even know if he's a kid, maybe he's older than I don't know.
What Jack Darty or whatever, who like just live streams him fucking with people.

Speaker 1 And then you go to say something and then his giant security guard comes over, right? Like,

Speaker 1 so it just felt like they were trying to go viral with this clip. And I just don't know.
They weren't even trying to make their friends laugh.

Speaker 1 I don't even know what they thought was going to be the end result.

Speaker 2 And now is it going too far? I don't think they thought anything of it is the reason why it's just so stupid. You don't think so.

Speaker 1 See, I think they thought, hey, we're going to film this and air. They filmed it, Matt.
We're going to air it. And people are going to think it's hilarious.

Speaker 2 And the fact that a coach's son, like, how, like, how

Speaker 2 it, it bothers me because I've lived in that moment and you're taking away the best moment that some of these kids may ever get in their entire life in their professional career. Like, think about it.

Speaker 2 Like, like, I mean, Shador is is one, but like, everybody, like, then everybody started coming out, like, oh, I got pranked like three times. Cooper Dejean got pranked last year.
Um, it's just

Speaker 2 stupid. It's not even funny.

Speaker 2 It's not even funny. It's not even funny.
It's stupid. Those kids should get their ass kicked, to be honest with you.
I can't imagine being

Speaker 2 that kid and the, the, like the coach. Like, if that was my, like, I talked about it with my, with Josie this week.

Speaker 1 Well, that's what I wanted to ask you because she's like, oh, my God.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You have an 18-year-old son. You've been in the public eye for your whole entire adult life.
And you, I'm sure, have a lot of phone numbers in your phone, right?

Speaker 1 Like, at any point, did you ever have to tell Cole, not only just like, don't take numbers, but also like,

Speaker 1 look, what you do does reflect on me. You're my son.

Speaker 2 You know, oh, yeah. We have that conversation still now.
Like,

Speaker 2 yeah, I mean, that, and that's just in his world of how he carries himself in football in the locker room, what he puts online, what he doesn't, how, when he meets people, look, I mean, I, it's, it's as small as like, hey, like firm handshake, look people in the eye and respect them.

Speaker 2 Like, I don't care who it is. Like, it's just, you're, you're just trying to set that example so that whether it's football or whatever, that they're just like, you know, that like they're out there.

Speaker 2 They're representing their name well. They're representing themselves well.
Right. And in sports, like it's, it's a lot more, you know, magnified, especially with these kids.

Speaker 2 I, I just, like, I just hate it because like, I just know what that moment feels like. And it's just, it's just really fucked up.
A lot of dumbass kids.

Speaker 2 And I've had, I've had this conversation, Jerry. I've done dumb shit too.
I've done it. So have I.
I've had this conversation with Cole a million times. And I've said, listen, man.

Speaker 2 And this is no disrespect to some of the people that you hang out with. You are on a trajectory that's going up.
You have a full scholarship to play college football at a university.

Speaker 2 And when it's all said and done, you might have multiple scholarships and have, you know, multiple schools to play college football at the next level.

Speaker 2 You have a golden opportunity to make a good amount of money.

Speaker 2 If, if that's, if, if you want to put in the work to do that, the people around you could give two fucks about what you do at the next level.

Speaker 2 They, that, some of them are your boys, but they're all 17, 18, 19. They want to go out.
They want to party. They have nothing to lose.

Speaker 2 They are going to college to go to college to enjoy a college experience. By the way, that's fine, but you're not that.

Speaker 2 And I've been hammering that point home for years and years and years in the last couple of years.

Speaker 2 So, but again, at the end of the day, and that just goes on to this whole prank thing, like Ulbrick's kid, like that's like, you know, like he knows better, obviously, and he knows like, but like you get caught up, you have some boys in our mind, hey, let's do this, whatever.

Speaker 2 And then all of a sudden you're like, oh my God, what did I just do? Like, it's tough, man. But like, yeah,

Speaker 2 all the, all, anyone who's prank calling potential draft picks need to get their ass kicked. And that's, that's.

Speaker 1 That's what I would say too. By the way, it's not funny.

Speaker 2 It's corny.

Speaker 1 Like, it's not, if you're going to, like, take a serious, you're not even being, you're not even entertaining us.

Speaker 2 It'll be interesting. I mean, look, at the end of the day, like,

Speaker 2 what, what is the, what, what are you going to, like, what are the repercussions? Like, what are the consequences? Like, it's not like there wasn't a, like, nothing.

Speaker 1 No, no, some people were talking for the Falcons to be penalized, like a pick or something.

Speaker 2 I'm like, you're going to punish a whole fan base. You're going to, yeah, you're going to a pick for like a prank call that they couldn't control.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm sure the dad did not know that happened. And I guess the message for every coach is like, it's unfortunate you have to have a locked iPad and phone that no one knows the password to.

Speaker 2 There will be, there will be, there will be a change guarantee in the NFL next year that somehow these numbers, like whatever, dude. I mean, it is what it is.
Well, you know what?

Speaker 2 It's messed up.

Speaker 1 The thing that also stuck out, because it's funny, right? I saw a ton of the Cam Ward Shador Sanders video.

Speaker 1 Did you see that video all week where like Shadora is talking about making me like, and I don't remember this video. They shot it a long time ago.
I don't remember.

Speaker 2 I remember a lot of their videos together. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But this one, they played those two specific. It really did at some point feel like, why are you playing this over and over and over and over again? Because it really does not make,

Speaker 1 it does not make Shador look bad, but it definitely looks like these are two very different players and choose who you want.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's, it's, but what didn't get enough coverage was I thought Shadora's reaction to the prank was awesome. Like he was like, is this an immature corny son?

Speaker 2 I wasn't really bothered by it.

Speaker 1 It's like some corny.

Speaker 1 Like, and he's like, whatever, young kids make dumb i thought the difference between one 21 year old kid and another was pretty big of how shador kind of took that i want to i want to i just want to say this about this process and

Speaker 2 look i and i i've gosh i've covered shador for a couple years i met the kid i like the kid i love like like

Speaker 2 I don't have a bad thing to say about, and I wish him the best. I think he's a really good player.
And is he better than a fifth round pick? He is, for sure, in my opinion.

Speaker 2 At the end of the day, it doesn't matter. And the the NFL viewed his play a certain way.
And, but I will just say this: the, the, the, and I went through this.

Speaker 2 And by the way, I was guilty to some extent too. Like, I had my entourage, no pun intended, but I did.
I had Nick Mache running around.

Speaker 2 I had a, I had a perception about me, um, you know, this, this, I don't say arrogant, but just like, hey, this Hollywood kid, does he really love football? This and that. Like, I had that.

Speaker 2 That process, especially as a quarterback, is no fucking joke, dude. It is no joke.
And you need to carry yourself a certain way. And that, and then look, and this isn't even pointed at Shador.

Speaker 2 This is just like for all everybody else

Speaker 2 specifically, too. Like humility is a real thing.
And these NFL teams don't give two shits. They are in that meeting.
grilling you, dissecting you.

Speaker 2 They want to make sure that if that you're their type of guy that can lead a franchise, especially quarterbacks, right? Like I can speak on quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 So if you're in that process and it's more about you than them, or you know, they don't like certain answers, like that, that, that literally can equal what we saw. Like, like, I've, I've seen it.

Speaker 2 Like, it's happened a bunch of times. And by the way, I...
I'm, I was guilty of it partly too. Now, I went 10th overall, but like, that perception carried with me for a couple of years.

Speaker 2 And it was part of the reason why it was hard for me to like just stay in the league. Like, it took a mental toll.
So I just think like you're not like, no player is bigger than the NFL, man.

Speaker 2 And you saw that. Like, no, no player is bigger than the shield.

Speaker 2 Um, I think Shador is a hell of a player, man. I'm rooting for him.
I think he got humbled in this process. I, he for sure did.
I think, and, and that's okay. Like, that's a good thing.

Speaker 2 And he's going to be motivated and he's going to be a good player. I would not be shocked if he's making that.

Speaker 1 It's just, it's a, it's a, it's a, he's got a chance to make a lot of people lose their jobs.

Speaker 2 That's for sure. He does.
And, and I hope the NFL. I hope he handles it that way, but that process is no joke.
And yeah, I mean, and you just saw firsthand.

Speaker 2 And again, I, I, by the way, I put this out on X and I stand by this.

Speaker 2 If you aren't, and Shador is a little bit of an anomaly because I think a lot of people thought he was a first round, at least a second round, and he fell. So that's one thing.

Speaker 2 If you aren't guaranteed a first-round draft pick, I mean, if you aren't hearing from everybody that you're going to be in the first round, stay in school, man, and make that money.

Speaker 2 And Quinn Ewers is a perfect example. Quinn Ewers turned down millions of dollars in the portal to go and be a seventh round draft pick and and a seventh round draft pick.

Speaker 2 It's just, and it's just, it's, it's just like, you got to be smart. And again, maybe just over college, whatever.
And that's fine.

Speaker 2 And maybe he's made the money, but you turn down, I think there's a report of 10 million, say it was $5 million,

Speaker 2 real money to go play and even develop more. Just this is, this is what, this is what NIL can do for you.
Stay in school and continue to develop and get good advice.

Speaker 2 Like get, like, I can't, like, I can't harp it enough. Like, I didn't have that opportunity.
I stayed in school because I love school and I wanted to get better.

Speaker 2 I wasn't getting paid to come back to USC for my fifth year. These kids are getting paid millions of dollars to come back to school.
Like, if you ain't going in the top 15,

Speaker 2 then I don't know. Stay in school.
I don't know. Stay in school.
Like, it's not, it's not a difficult decision. So that's my, that's my piece.

Speaker 1 It was certainly the same. Let me ask you a question.

Speaker 2 Let me ask you a question. If someone

Speaker 1 I get pranked all the time, by the way, I get pranked all the time. Not like Shakespeare.

Speaker 2 Say you're up. I mean, like, like it's different, but say you're up for a massive movie, right?

Speaker 2 Say it's the biggest franchise, and you're like, you're, you're, you're gonna get it, and you get called on one day, right? All the actors get called on a day. It's not like you gotta go back.

Speaker 2 I bet this is exactly what I've been usually with shows, it happens, and you're gonna find out, and you're on the edge of your seat.

Speaker 2 Like, I'm gonna find out once you get the call, you're like, oh my God, I got it. And you answer, and they just basically say, fuck off.

Speaker 1 Like, how I want to fuck that dude.

Speaker 1 I would be, I would would be pissed because you're literally playing with some emotions. Look,

Speaker 1 obviously, our boy Ashton, your boy, our first guest ever, look, he started a show called Punked, right?

Speaker 2 By the way, I got punked.

Speaker 1 Well, they came to us early on in Entourage, like season three, four, when we were at our height, and they came to Connolly and I and they were basically saying, we want to punk Kevin Dylan.

Speaker 1 And we were like,

Speaker 1 that's a really bad idea.

Speaker 1 Because number one, Dylan's a a little older like he ain't about that prank culture he doesn't know what punked is he's like he's like coach has no idea what punct is and like you're gonna try to like tow his car from his house and pretend like he's getting brought up on charges of tax evasion or something it's not gonna go well so we basically made like a truce we all got to i got everyone together kind of guys

Speaker 1 Prank culture is real. The show punked was huge at the time.
Let's all disagree. We are not doing this to each other and take it off the table.

Speaker 1 And we all shook hands over iced coffee and looked each other in the eyes and said, we will never prank each other on punked ever. And I think it was the best move we ever did.

Speaker 1 By the way, still it ain't about that prank culture shit.

Speaker 2 Did you, did you ever, do you know what happened on my episode of Punk? I think it's what happened to you. I don't remember.

Speaker 2 It was right before the draft. So it's actually perfect.
So I'm at dinner. This was like a month before the draft.
So you can imagine, like build up

Speaker 2 everything we just talked about, like the whole process. I'm at dinner in Hollywood, and actually, Josh Richmond is there.
Who

Speaker 1 got stuff coming with Josh?

Speaker 2 Yeah, Josh. Josh is going to be on the show here soon.

Speaker 2 And those of you that don't know, Josh, he's incredible. One of my buddies at the time, maybe someone else.
And this was already set up. Kutcher already, this is where I first met Kutcher.

Speaker 2 And so the whole premise was I was at dinner. I was going to,

Speaker 2 you would know the place. I was going to the parking lot to get my car valet.
I wasn't drinking or anything.

Speaker 2 And an escort came out of the parking lot basically remember this now basically i'm picking up an escort and they'll take her home

Speaker 2 so yeah it's it's see i'm laughing that's so stop laughing against my i was shitting my pants yeah so i go i go so me and my buddy braun and uh we go out we pull up the car and i'm in the car and she comes out of nowhere and you know she's dressed like an escort and she just starts you know kind of flirting like hey blah blah blah like hey what are you doing this and that and like within 60 seconds, sirens

Speaker 2 pull up out of nowhere. Dude, I, I, I, I might have shit my pants or piss my pants.

Speaker 1 Because you're thinking like my, my entire NFL career is over.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm like, I'm done. I didn't think anything of it.
And I'm thinking, like, one, I haven't done it. And by the way, I like, you could watch the whole thing.

Speaker 2 Like, even, they couldn't even edit it because I didn't even say anything. Like, I was like, I kind of flirted a little bit, but nothing.
Like, I didn't give her, I didn't give any money.

Speaker 2 I didn't do anything. And

Speaker 2 the cops came, got me out of the car, hands on the hood. I had, I had a like a hoodie on with a beanie.
I kind of looked like stupid. I'm like, what the fuck am I doing?

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 it was, and it, and according, it was good cop, bad cop. So, so, right, should we let him go? No, I, the bad cop was like, all right, like, whatever, being a total asshole.

Speaker 2 The good cop was like, hey, you know, like, hey, I know how I know. It was like a good cop, I know who you are, man.
You're QB. Like, dude, let's try to figure this out.
It was just back and forth.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, so anyway, long story short, I'm like, dude, I'm about to get drafted my whole life i can't do this and like it wasn't me i threw my boy under the bus i said it was my boy he he was there he was like he's the one that like and he and it's it's all would he have taken the rap for you you think if that was real not like if you were really being set up let's say like

Speaker 2 if it wasn't punked if it was like some devious anyway people trying to mess

Speaker 2 so do you think he would have took the bullet for you oh for sure so we're in the they they had a van and they had all this surveillance and they're like no look i'm like i'm like i didn't even do anything i didn't even give her oh no no, but we saw you.

Speaker 2 I'm like, I didn't. I was like, it's entrapping it.
It's entrapping it. I was freaking out, dude.
And I said, him, I can't, dude. If I go, like, I'm screwed, I was like, I almost started crying.

Speaker 2 And then, you know, fast forward, it's actually hilarious.

Speaker 2 Just Kutcher comes running out. And I was like, you mother, dude, I thought I was gone.

Speaker 1 Here's the difference. Now we're over here sitting and talking about how funny pranking people are.
Here's the difference. That was your boy.
pranking you.

Speaker 1 And if you truly hated it, you could have said, I'm not signing. You're not airing that.
And you could have not signed off on it and would have never seen the light of day.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 1 And that was your boy who did it. So that's the difference.
That's what we're talking about here. It's like, yes, he's technically doing it for views.
Ashton was making a show.

Speaker 1 But again, you had the right to say, no, don't air this. And you guys were friends.
He was really doing it to his friends.

Speaker 2 I don't even remember. I don't remember.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go watch that on YouTube.

Speaker 2 Oh, dude. We got to pull that clip.
It was hilarious, dude.

Speaker 2 I thought my life was over, man. I was totally like, you can't, you know know who I am.

Speaker 1 That could have actually been your all-time adventures story because I think we're going to do some all-time adventures now. You could have just used that one because that was an adventure.

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Speaker 1 Every week, we kind of talk about an adventure, either on the field, off the field, on set. You just told a great story, Matt, but I have a good one today, and I can try and keep it quick.

Speaker 1 Do you want me to to go first?

Speaker 2 Yeah, go for it. Okay.

Speaker 1 So I'm going back to 2008

Speaker 1 filming entourage. We were planning to do an episode at the Cannes Film Festival.
And similarly, how we always did it, we were actually going to shoot on the red carpet at the Cannes Film Festival.

Speaker 1 So there's no recreation here. This is the real deal.
We have one shot at this. I had never left the country at that point, 26 years old.
I hadn't even been to Canada, let alone France.

Speaker 1 I finally go like three months months before when we knew I get my passport. I had it in an envelope.
I put it in my spot that I keep stuff and I didn't think about it again.

Speaker 1 Go about shooting for three months. Now we're like two days away from our flights, a solid 48 hours.
I'm like, and I say to myself, let me go find my passport. I'm starting to pack.

Speaker 1 Let me get my stuff together. I go and look for my passport and I can't find it.
It's not in the spot.

Speaker 2 That's a lonely feeling.

Speaker 1 So now I'm like, real, I'm like, I'm not nervous yet, but I start really looking through everything. Now I'm four hours in and I can't find it.

Speaker 1 So I start notifying people in production, like, hey, guys, I can't find my passport. They were so freaked out.
They sent every PA in production. They sent eight people to my house to search.

Speaker 1 They basically sent over a search party. No passport.
They went to my trailer on set. Well, maybe you left it.
They searched my trailer. No passport.
So now, and we have to film the next day.

Speaker 1 We're leaving the day after that. So what they had to do for me, and this probably cost thousands of dollars, I had to go down to the federal building, downtown L.A.

Speaker 1 And there's a line every day of people trying to expedite passports, like hundreds of people. I don't know what they paid.
I don't know if they called in a politician.

Speaker 1 I skipped the line and they expedited my passport in 20 hours.

Speaker 1 I got it

Speaker 1 three hours before we left for the air for the airport. I got it right before we were leaving for the airport.
And they didn't even let me hold it.

Speaker 1 One of our producers took the passport like I was a 10 year old.

Speaker 2 So did you ever find the passport?

Speaker 1 So it ended up working out. I get to France, we film it, but six months later, I decide, I'm like, oh, I need a new washer and dryer.
They take out the old washer dryer.

Speaker 1 Where I put it was, my spot was a shelf above the washer and dryer. It somehow fell off there and was behind the washer dryer.
No one thought to look behind the washer dryer.

Speaker 1 So it's a story with a half-time.

Speaker 2 The fact that they pulled strings like that to get a passport in 24 hours is,

Speaker 2 you have to know something.

Speaker 1 Like Homeland Securities and things.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you have to know. You have to make a call, and that's a big favor.

Speaker 1 And at one point, and Doug Allen has even said this, basically, I wasn't going to be in the episode. If they couldn't figure the passport out, Turtle had to stay home because he had a fever.

Speaker 1 That was going to be the storyline.

Speaker 2 That would have been the big worse to France. So

Speaker 2 that's my all-time adventure. Anytime we go out of the country, I'm always just like, dude, double check, double check, double check.

Speaker 2 Just real quick on the draft, draft, and I know we're closing it up, but

Speaker 2 I want to give people a little bit of an insight of kind of what happens with the trades and what happened to me. So I ended up getting picked 10th overall to Arizona.
Like a lot of these draft picks,

Speaker 2 I never spoke to Arizona at all in the process because I don't think they thought I would be there at 10. So I just found this out in December.

Speaker 2 Real quick, painting the picture, three to Tennessee, four to New York, seven to Oakland,

Speaker 2 and then after that, maybe 11 to Denver were like the spots for me. Mario Williams went one, Reggie went two.
So this is what happened the night before the draft.

Speaker 2 There's a lot of wheeling and dealing. And you see this someone on the drafted trades.
This kind of goes down. So I get a call from Norman Chow the night before the draft, Tennessee Titans.

Speaker 2 He's the OC. Jeff Fisher is the head coach, USC guy.
Matt, sorry, we're going with Vince Young tomorrow.

Speaker 2 You know, this was an owner decision. The owner wanted to draft Vince Young.
Fine. Love Vince, whatever.
So I knew I wasn't going to Tennessee before the draft even happened.

Speaker 2 So I know it's not top three. The next pick was the Jets, which was fairly likey.
They were like the next Joe Namath and Hollywood Madden and this and that. And I did a private workout with them.

Speaker 2 I did all, I met with the Jets more than any team

Speaker 2 at four. Yeah, at four.
They picked Briasha Ferguson, staple on their line, great solid pick, left tackle, whatever. After that, I was the last to go in the green room, which felt like hours.

Speaker 2 After that, it was Oakland at seven. If it wasn't Oakland, we didn't kind of know where.
So I just found this out in December.

Speaker 1 You literally found this out in December, so six months ago.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So Oakland.
So the strength coach for UNLV. Yeah, the strength coach for UNLV, I think, was on that staff for the Raiders, Art Schell and those guys.

Speaker 2 I met with Al Davis in the draft process and he said, hey, man, which was really cool. And he was like,

Speaker 2 if you're there at seven, I don't think you will be, but man, it'd be tough to pass on you. So I thought, okay, seven might happen.
Oakland would be sick.

Speaker 2 I grew up watching the Raiders, Raiders, whatever.

Speaker 2 I found out just 19 years post-draft that they were picking me up until like a minute, say a minute left on the clock or two minutes left on the clock. And at that time was 10 minutes.

Speaker 1 Like they're almost ready to call it in at that.

Speaker 2 They're calling,

Speaker 2 picking up the phone.

Speaker 2 And the story goes, and whoever's listening, maybe they can correct me, but the story goes, what I was told was at the last second, a minute, Al Davis goes, What about that Michael Huff kid from Texas who just won the Jim Thorpe and that was it?

Speaker 1 That's how it happened?

Speaker 2 And they said that you could hear a pin drop in that room. They were all dead set on drafting me and everyone in that room was like silent.
Al Davis said, yeah, let's take Michael Huff. That was it.

Speaker 2 And I was like, I just, I've been getting goosebumps. I just found out about this in December.
The coach was like, dude, did you ever hear that sermon? I'm like, no. So, okay, so that's one.

Speaker 2 That's wild. Think about just, you always think about how things could happen if change.
If you go here, you go there.

Speaker 1 It's probably better you didn't hear that till 20 years later.

Speaker 2 Well, no. So then

Speaker 2 the next adventurous story was at nine, Buffalo picked at nine,

Speaker 2 and apparently Denver at 11 or 12, 11 was trying to trade up with Buffalo at nine to get me at nine.

Speaker 2 Buffalo, I think, backed out of the trade late again.

Speaker 2 I think Buffalo took Dante Witner. They took the safety Dante Witner.

Speaker 2 So there was a trade for me to go to to Denver at nine, which fell through. Arizona, Arizona, Arizona took me at 10.
Denver took Jay Cutler. Cutler.

Speaker 2 So Denver was going to take me or Cutler, whoever fell to them. I think they tried to trade up to get me a nine, and then that didn't happen.

Speaker 2 They were like, all right, we'll take Leinert or Cutler, whoever's there. And then if we were both there, I don't know where I was on the draft board.
But that's how my draft day went after post.

Speaker 2 And all of that, I never met with Arizona.

Speaker 1 That's what I was going to say.

Speaker 1 What contact did you was Arizona even on your radar? Obviously, they needed a quarterback, but were you thinking you didn't even meet with them?

Speaker 2 Like, no, I met. Well, they had Kurt Warner.
Right. I met with, I met, so at the draft or at the combine, they have, you've seen some of these videos come out now.
Right.

Speaker 2 They have your, your like 10-minute meeting with

Speaker 2 the whole brass in like a hotel room, right? Or whatever. Those are the ones you start.
That's the one where they grill you.

Speaker 2 And it is like, you're there sitting there like, you just got got to get through it it's tough and then they have like kind of like speed dating out in the middle where like you can just coaches can pull you aside you got a minute like it's like this like in a banquet room like you just you just meet people like oh hey jerry what's up man i'm qb coach for arizona nice to meet you you might talk a little ball for a minute and then you just kind of move on like it but that could be enough of a meeting to say hey i met

Speaker 2 it was coach cruz cruzek who was my qb coach at arizona the time we sat and we met for like a minute or two just talked a little shop like it was cool.

Speaker 2 Like he was like, I don't think you're going to be there, but you know, hell of a player, like awesome. It was just kind of like that.
It's kind of just a very informal, quick passing.

Speaker 2 And that's, that's the extent of that.

Speaker 2 So for everybody that watches the draft, there's a lot of shit that goes on behind the scenes. It's pretty freaking wild.

Speaker 1 It does. There are a lot of similarities with the draft.
And you really made me think about it when you just mentioned.

Speaker 1 if someone would have pranked me, say, I'm up for a Marvel movie or something, right?

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And you're in the transformers. With

Speaker 1 acting stuff, specifically too, with television more than anything, but it is lists. It's a, it's a dread.
Hey, you're in the top three.

Speaker 1 You've made, like, you start off in the top 10, and then they whittle it down. Like, oh, like, you're even seeing it with like James Bond now, right? Amazon's going to do the James Bond franchise.

Speaker 1 They have to pick a new Bond, and it's already like, it's a Henry Cavill,

Speaker 1 this guy, like, it's yourself, like, there's already a list compiled.

Speaker 1 But what I'm getting at is sometimes you hear for months, like in the media, oh, it's this list, or I'm hearing from my agents, like it's down to you and these two guys.

Speaker 1 And then they announced the casting and it's a guy that was never mentioned to be in the race at all. And you're totally

Speaker 2 pranked. It's crazy.
The draft is wild. And I'm, yeah, it's just wild.
But anyway,

Speaker 2 post-draft recap. Good luck to all the guys that got drafted.
If you ever prank again, someone's going to fucking beat you out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, take it easy. Take it easy on the pranks.
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Speaker 1 All right, it's now time for the flavor of the week presented by Wendy's. Clock in for sweet treat time with Wendy's classic frosty.
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Speaker 1 We had a chance in Green Bay to sample just about every frosty they had. And strawberry frosty swirl was my favorite.
That one's like a frosty.

Speaker 2 It's like you just, you can't, you can't have one bite. I told myself I wasn't going to eat it, and I had like three bites of all of their flavors.
Yeah, yeah. And

Speaker 1 Rob Stone put a bunch down too.

Speaker 2 He was like the brown, the brownie batter frosty swirl was fire. And normally I'm a caramel guy, but

Speaker 1 well, each week we try to do a flavor of the week.

Speaker 1 And obviously, sports is tough right now because there's so many moving parts, but I really wanted to highlight a flavor of the week in our very own entertainment business, specifically the movie business.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Sinners, which was another hot topic last week about you know what determines it being a success and how much money it needs to earn.

Speaker 1 Right now, as we tape this, it's at 123 million domestic, 40 million worldwide, so 163 million total. It's on track to just continue a run.

Speaker 1 And the way they did it, Matt, what I love about, look, it's, it's hard to get anyone to go to a movie these days. It just is.

Speaker 1 You know, it's one thing when it's Barbie or Oppenheimer or Marvel or Star Wars, because it's going off of this IP.

Speaker 1 Everyone knows it feels like an event, even without trying to make it an event, you're more likely to get people to go.

Speaker 1 And even that stuff is down to some degree right except from barbie and oppenheimer last year sinners and by the full disclosure haven't seen it yet i cannot wait to see it what they to make in a movie an original movie one that is not based off anything feel like an event is damn near impossible these days and what they did what ryan cooler michael b jordan and everyone involved did was they shot it in film i know we don't even talk about film much anymore entourage was so old entourage used to shoot on film when it first started.

Speaker 2 Oh, like

Speaker 1 just a different look, right? Film stock gives you a different look. It's what all movies used to be shot on.

Speaker 1 And they shot it in IMAX, which I believe is the future of getting people off their asses and out of their houses to go see movies.

Speaker 1 So to take an original movie that's not based off anything and make it feel like an event and now the people are showing up.

Speaker 1 I just think that it's, it's, it's a breath of fresh air and hope for a business that really has not been able to find a way to to do that yet.

Speaker 2 I was going to say, do you think that's it's well, one, and you have massive like Haley, Haley Steinfeld's in it, Michael B. Jordan.
I think the marketing around it was really good.

Speaker 2 The promotion around it was great. Um, and I haven't seen it yet either.
Do you think it's there's a shift in how movies are going to be made?

Speaker 1 I think, I think, yes. And what I think it has to really come to whether it's the filmmaker or the studio.
Yes, like having to figure out a way to make it feel special.

Speaker 1 You used to be able to just make a good movie and say hey like here's goodwill hunting right here's a good movie everyone's going to the theater i think if like goodwill hunting comes out today it's still beloved and wins awards and most people are probably watching it at home yeah what what is what is the hook to get people off their couch to go into a theater and enjoy the experience right because it's an experience to literally feel like if you don't see it this way and in theaters you really are missing the whole movie if you stay home to watch it it will still be good but you are actually missing, you're not getting the full experience.

Speaker 1 It's like going on a roller coaster, but hey, we're only going to go half speed on the roller coaster.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 2 I've been to a couple movies this year. And again, it's phases, right? When we have little kids, anytime there's an anime, it's like that's that's a reason.
But like, I kind of feel like.

Speaker 2 It's making a comeback. A theater just opened back up, got shut down right before it was an Arclight.
So it was a big, you know, big brand, whatever, a big company, and got shut down.

Speaker 2 COVID was, it was, we were all so upset. They just, um,

Speaker 2 I think it's cinematic, it's cinema something now or whatever, but um, it's back and it's booming over there, dude. People are in and out going.
So, like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 I feel like people have lost, like, missed that a little bit to like go out and have, like, go out to a movie with your family. Go see.

Speaker 2 The problem is, it's just not great movies just haven't been made. I think this to your point, Sinners is obviously

Speaker 2 proof that it's become a really good movie. I'm going to go see it.
I can't wait.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's the one. Go see it.
And then

Speaker 1 my thought to all young filmmakers or whatever, if you're listening to this and you're trying to think how you could get people to go see a movie, think about the thought that Coolger put into how we're going to get people to go see this thing.

Speaker 2 And maybe get Michael B. Jordan since he's a star.

Speaker 1 It certainly helps.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 That's like a given. You have to have a star.
That's not going anywhere because that more also has to do with the foreign sales. And that's the other thing.

Speaker 1 It's putting up money foreign, which is also a very difficult thing to do. So that's my flavor of the week.

Speaker 2 Thank you.

Speaker 2 Omar, my boy, Omar Miller's in that.

Speaker 1 Omar Miller's. Omar Miller's in everything.
He's awesome.

Speaker 2 We got to get him on the show. You know what?

Speaker 1 That's a great call.

Speaker 2 That's a great one. That's a great one.

Speaker 1 Because he goes back. He's been around for a while and he's still doing his card.

Speaker 3 God, he's been around forever.

Speaker 1 Let's reach out to Omar. And by the way, second place on my flavor of the week was Shaq accepting the GM job at Sacramento State.
Don't quite know what it means, but is he just evaluating talent?

Speaker 2 His kid's playing basketball there. That's why.

Speaker 1 Okay, but he doesn't need to do.

Speaker 1 He doesn't need to do it. He must want to do it.

Speaker 2 He's going to do it until his son is gone.

Speaker 1 Right, but it's not like saying like, hey,

Speaker 1 my son will only go here if I'm the GM. Do you think Shaq's saying?

Speaker 2 No, his son has already committed there. He's probably signed on to help them with some, you know, money stuff, NIL stuff, like give them more opportunity.

Speaker 2 Like, yeah, I mean, and to be closer to his kid. Like, that's like,

Speaker 2 look at Dion.

Speaker 2 I mean, Dion's a head coach, but like, yeah,

Speaker 2 there's no other reason. Like, once his kid leaves, like, he's not going to stay on and be the GM for the Sac State.
That's just like a, hey, Shaq, we'll make you this title.

Speaker 2 You know, here's, here's your involvement. And Shaq's a businessman.
Shaq will be great. Shaq's like, here, here's how I can help.
Whatever. It's great.
It's awesome.

Speaker 2 But I don't think there's much more to it than that.

Speaker 1 We're talking about Shaq these days once a week. So good stuff.

Speaker 1 That was my number two. And let's do some mailbag stuff.
I typically don't want to read anyone from Boston sending us an email.

Speaker 2 Do you want me to read it for you? No, I'll read it.

Speaker 1 I'll read it because I could relate to this one a little bit. So Jeff from Boston says, guys, I got a dilemma that I could use your help with.

Speaker 1 I am the one who scouts out our TV night for my wife and I. Normally, I go find the show, watch the first 10 minutes.
If I think she'll like it, I stop watching and we start watching together.

Speaker 1 However, she was away. I started the first four episodes of Mobland and now I cannot go back.
The show is so good. And she likes Tom Hardy.
Do I act like I haven't seen it and re-watch it with her?

Speaker 1 Or do I come clean and still re-watch with her?

Speaker 1 That's a tough one. I can't do it.

Speaker 2 I'm dealing with this currently at the

Speaker 1 Josie if you jump ahead on the show or if she jumps ahead on the show or

Speaker 2 if I, if, well, because you travel a lot. You could watch a lot of TV on this show.
Well, if I jump ahead on a show, she gets mad at me.

Speaker 2 If she jumps ahead on a show, I don't care and I'll just catch up. So my one thing is

Speaker 2 you can't, you can't lie to your wife. So, you gotta just say, Hey, babe,

Speaker 2 catch up. I won't watch, just catch up.
But the problem is, and this is the problem, is it'll take my wife three weeks to watch four episodes. The patient's

Speaker 2 shit, yeah, she'll just be like, Hey, okay, I'm like, babe, did you watch? Well, when did I have time to watch, babe? Like, I'm feeding the baby. Okay, well, then can I watch more?

Speaker 2 I'm not going to wait for you. So, there is a banter back and forth.
I think you got to give your, uh, give your wife a chance to catch up. I can't re-watch anything.

Speaker 1 Like, i we know this from earlier yeah dude i'm not gonna re if i watched an episode last night and she wants to watch the same one tonight i'm not gonna do it but to her credit she will re-watch something if i'm if she's like oh go ahead rewatch again like i'm just like no i'm good so yeah the closest we came because when i was just in la when we were doing podcast stuff in the studio is when the white lotus finale aired and i'm like babe i can't wait because the internet will spoil it so we actually watched it separately but we kind of timed it out together a little bit.

Speaker 1 I think this one,

Speaker 1 normally I'm a big come clean guy. Like come clean.

Speaker 2 You're going to rewatch four episodes?

Speaker 1 Well, no, I'm saying normally I am.

Speaker 2 No, I'm not.

Speaker 1 In this case, however, and it sucks that she likes Tom Hardy because she might find this on her own. I think you just roll the dice that she might not ever stumble upon it.

Speaker 1 And if she does, you just say, oh, I watched it. I just didn't think you would like it.
And then you're in on a rewatch. Then you got no choice.

Speaker 2 But there is a good chance she doesn't stumble on this so it's that big of an offense yeah no i don't i don't think it's that big of an offense but if at all you got to come clean and just let her go that's that's my advice because

Speaker 2 but then you're like off balance then now she's watching a show you've already watched and then you might be like then you're just off balance but i also think there's some shows there's some shows that like you start watching and you're like

Speaker 2 She's like, I'm good or I'm not that into it or you can keep watching. I'll watch something else.
Or maybe it's like, hey, do you want to watch this? Like we like,

Speaker 2 we get easy, I get easily distracted like with shows. Like I can watch four, I mean, I don't, but I could watch four different shows at the same time, all in different, like

Speaker 2 one is with her,

Speaker 2 one is with her, one's when I travel, one's like, if I'm doing the dream feed with the baby, I'll throw on my, my, my Netflix right here and just watch on the phone while like, like, so like, I just find time.

Speaker 2 Um, but yeah, it's very hard with a lot of kids to, to be able to lay in bed at the same time, not doing anything else and watch a show. So

Speaker 1 deny till you try. That's my advice.
Deny till they try.

Speaker 2 All right. Do you want to take the second one?

Speaker 2 Yeah, Brian from Arlington, Virginia. My commanders are moving closer to a return to RFK Stadium

Speaker 2 or a refurbished version of it. If you guys could bring back a stadium from the past, what would you go with?

Speaker 1 Curious your thoughts because you might have played in a few.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, I think the one, I think one that stands out is Candlestick up in San fran um you played in candlestick i played in candlestick my rookie year uh was ball and actually i hurt my shoulder toward the end of that game but um

Speaker 2 i was a montana fan these steve i was actually both montana and steve young so honestly the the stadium was shit the field was shit it was so it was shit but it was historic you know so i think just going back and looking like damn there was a lot of history and the fact that i got to play in that um was pretty cool

Speaker 2 Candlestick, I think. Candlestick had a lot of aura to it.

Speaker 1 Was one of the biggest mistakes in football, playing football with the baseball diamond dudes.

Speaker 2 Dude, I did that. I did that.

Speaker 1 Was that one of the biggest mistakes that football has ever made?

Speaker 2 I did that in Oakland with the Raiders and the A's. It was.
awful. It's brutal, right?

Speaker 1 Like, it's not the best way to play football by one stretch.

Speaker 2 One, it's a, I mean, Oakland. That's why they left Oakland.
I mean, the stadium was awful. I mean, I feel bad for the fans, but the the stadium was so bad.

Speaker 2 Playing football in a baseball stadium based on world, it's just terrible. And like the dirt, it could just suck, dude.

Speaker 2 Like, you had to like wear different cleats and you had to be, always be careful. Like, oh, remember the dirt's on the 45-yard line.
I'm like, this is, I mean, are we, this is embarrassing.

Speaker 1 So it's almost a different game to like have camera.

Speaker 2 It is.

Speaker 2 It for sure is a different feel when you're on that part of the field, no doubt. Yeah.
What do you got, man? You got to have a couple.

Speaker 1 Well, look, there's an easy easy one, a layup one, which I'll mention, but we don't have to spend too much time on. I have the chair in my, right behind me, if you're watching this on YouTube.

Speaker 1 It's a chair from the old Yankee Stadium. So the old Yankee Stadium truly did have ghosts.
I know that's what we have said, and some people don't believe it, but truly...

Speaker 1 That stadium was just awesome. I could still close my eyes and just like, I could remember the smell.

Speaker 1 Like you walk into old Yankee Stadium, first you get hit with a little grass, then you just get hit with beer and mustard smells everywhere.

Speaker 1 Like it smelled like beer and mustard, everything that I remember. So that's the easy one.
But obviously, like, I never got the chance to go to the Great Western Forum to see the Lakers play.

Speaker 1 I would love to, but now it's also like a great music venue.

Speaker 2 So that's all it is there. Yeah.
Yeah. That's all it is.
I saw a game at the Great Western Forum. I think I saw a

Speaker 2 gosh, I see a Kings game or a Lakers game when I was little. I think it might have been a Kings game.

Speaker 1 But I mean, there's some great, like Pontiac Silver Dome where they had like WrestleMania, whatever. Astro Dome was an absolutely bananas thing back in the day.

Speaker 1 One recent one, I will say, um, and I'm sure the new wherever the Warriors play now is awesome, but it just doesn't pop the same way on TV sound-wise that Oracle did.

Speaker 1 That place, even through the television, and maybe it's because the fans were just on top of you in that different way. And I did go to a game at the Oracle way back when, um, it was different.

Speaker 1 Now, the new stadium is awesome in its own right

Speaker 1 for sure. But

Speaker 2 yeah, I was just going to say something.

Speaker 1 Oh, this is what I wanted to say. This is not one that I think we necessarily need to bring back, but I think about it all the time.
Obviously, I live in the suburbs in Cleveland, right?

Speaker 1 And when I drive this one route to my mother-in-law's house, there's like a restaurant, an ice cream shop, and then it's just kind of like cornfield-looking place, right?

Speaker 1 But if you look on like Google Maps, it gives you the spot. It says way out there, like you look from the map and then out into the cornfield farm and it says

Speaker 1 historic Richfield Coliseum.

Speaker 1 The Cavs used to play at the Richfield Coliseum, Matt, in the middle of like nowhere. It's hard to imagine that 20,000 people used to show up to this place.

Speaker 1 But what's even cooler about it is it's where one of the most famous, if not the most famous shot in basketball history, Jordan over Craig Elo happened.

Speaker 1 So part of me wants to get the blueprints to the old Richfield Coliseum from City Hall.

Speaker 1 I don't know if I have to rent a fucking tractor and I want to drive out there and I want to find the exact spot in the earth where Jordan hit that shot over Craig Elo.

Speaker 2 I want to bring a little hoop because I want to redo it. I'm going to pop a shot.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I could have pop a shot and redo it. So that's one that I thought would be cool just to bring back just to see.

Speaker 1 It's just crazy to think that Michael Jordan, you you need to tell me Jordan hit that shot way out there in the woods in the middle of nothing. So

Speaker 1 good question, Brian, from Arlington, Virginia.

Speaker 1 Maddie,

Speaker 2 a little stuff's going on at your house.

Speaker 1 It seems like it's quieting down. But I'm going to see you in New York, right?

Speaker 1 We spent a little time in New York.

Speaker 2 Spend a little time in New York, man. Get to see you twice in two weeks.
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 It's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 2 Before you know it, you'll be on the West Coast. Yay, yay.

Speaker 1 Thanks, everybody, for listening. Don't forget to like and subscribe, do all that good stuff, and we'll catch you next week.

Speaker 2 Peace.