The Triple Option and Throwbacks Live presented by Nissan | Day 2

Speaker 1 Good afternoon from Green Bay, Wisconsin. Day two, right outside Lambeau Field, as we welcome you to the triple option and throwbacks presented by Nissan live from the draft house here in Green Bay.

Speaker 2 Good afternoon, Green Bay.

Speaker 1 Today's weather confirming I am not coming to Green Bay for spring break. All right, it's done.
But listen, these guys, go on.

Speaker 2 I'm a a little nervous about coach over here. Coaches are banging on these hands.

Speaker 1 Can we get coach a jacket?

Speaker 2 Can somebody give coach a jacket? Oh, good.

Speaker 1 Listen, there were some concerns. I'll be honest with you.
Like, what kind of crowd would we get here? Day two at the draft. The weather is cold.
It's drizzly. I said, time out.

Speaker 1 Reminder, we are in the great state of Wisconsin. These people are going to show up.
Also, we promised free cheese and beer, so I think that helps bring everybody in. Love having you guys here.

Speaker 1 You guys have been wonderful hosts for all of us, for everybody involved with the NFL draft. So thank you so much.
Again, and our thanks to Nissan here at the draft house in Green Bay.

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Speaker 1 Those of you who are live here, you saw the awesome Armada in literally the front yard, like in the front yard, towing the biggest Heisman trophy I've ever seen. Mark Ingram over here.

Speaker 1 Matt Leinert, Urban Meyer. Jerry Ferraro, Rob Stone, glad you're with us.

Speaker 2 Mark, I got to admit, I'm a little worried about you right now. Oh, we good.
I'm built for the weather. You be

Speaker 2 yeah, you look like it. Yeah, I'm hoodied up.
You know what I mean? It's a cold weather podcast host. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, we in here, man. I'm with the people.
We love the people.

Speaker 2 And the people love me.

Speaker 2 That they do.

Speaker 1 So, round one.

Speaker 2 Hey, but one thing, I got beef with the intro because he said you're the best soccer player up here, man. I got the footy skills.

Speaker 2 I'll take you. I'll take you.

Speaker 2 I'll take you. By the way, one elbow to the ribs.
You're outstanding. Hey, what do you want with my Maradona skills? You feel me?

Speaker 1 Listen, listen, you and I, I've got a little payback in store for you at some point in my life. You know about that.

Speaker 2 You know about that.

Speaker 1 We'll talk about that later. Round one in the books.
Today it is round two and round three from here in Green Bay.

Speaker 1 Before we pivot to what should really be a fascinating Friday evening, let's talk about round one. We've got two round one picks here, Mark and Matt.
What happens? Really curious, what happens?

Speaker 1 When you get that phone call through the course of the night and where you guys are at this juncture in kind of day one of being a professional athlete. I'll start with you, Maddie.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's crazy. He went higher than me.
Is that why you started?

Speaker 1 Mark, I'll start with you.

Speaker 2 No, because I'm

Speaker 2 just playing, I understand, I just play, I understand. It's because I'm older.
I'm your elder. I'm your elder.
Is that how it's going to be today?

Speaker 2 We got to make it hot. Make it spicy out here today.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I think. Well, first of all, I was a part.

Speaker 2 Were you a part of the New York drafts, right? You were in New York, yeah.

Speaker 3 So I was a part of the New York drafts where they used to do it at Radio City Hall, which is really cool. So then they only invited a handful of people.
So when I was there, it was,

Speaker 3 gosh, let me, Mario Williams, who went one, Reggie Bush, Vince Young, A.J. Hawk.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 3 A.J. Hawk was there.

Speaker 3 De Bricashaw Ferguson and myself. And Vernon Davis.
So there's like seven of us.

Speaker 3 Anyway, I get drafted number 10 to Arizona. You get the call.
It's everything you can imagine. You saw it last night.
It's just, it's life-changing. The emotions.

Speaker 3 For me, the best part of the draft is the human part when you see these kids get drafted and

Speaker 3 the moment they have with their families. It's just a big, it's a life-changing experience.
Doesn't mean work's done, but it's life-changing. So, basically, what happens is you get drafted.

Speaker 2 Whoa,

Speaker 3 you do a oh, I'm a little loud. Can you guys, okay? You do, oh, my goodness, audio, audio, can we turn that down?

Speaker 3 Um, you get drafted, you do a kind of a media circuit right after a press conference, and then honestly, I think I was on a first flight out the morning to Arizona. Um, and private, no, not private.

Speaker 3 I was commercial. I would think I was commercial.

Speaker 3 Economy in the back.

Speaker 2 Shut up.

Speaker 3 No, I think I was forced. I don't remember, honestly.
You definitely were first class.

Speaker 2 I might have been first class. You weren't first class.
That might have been a class. But it happens very fast.

Speaker 3 So, yeah,

Speaker 3 it happens very fast. You're drafted, awesome.
You fly to the city, you do the press conference, you meet everybody, and then it starts.

Speaker 3 And then I think, honestly, like a handful of days later was like OTA start right away, and you're right there three weeks later. You're looking for houses.

Speaker 2 Your life completely changed upside down in a positive way and it's an incredible experience so yeah my experience was a lot different than Matt's just because we were in a lockout the NFL was in a lockout when I got drafted so um yeah they called my name obviously you get on the phone with the GM mark man Saints on the phone we just traded back in the first round everyone's going crazy I'm like well thank you because I've been sitting here for so long so like

Speaker 2 and right like so I'm so I was the pick the 28th pick right so I'm looking at the 28th pick uh like last night I'm like dang it's been like four hours that they've been in there.

Speaker 2 And you could just see them walking down. They were like, okay, I'm glad I finally went off the board.
But yeah, so they get the call.

Speaker 2 You do your media circuit,

Speaker 2 all your media stuff. And then I didn't go to my team.
My first day with my team was day one of training camp. I didn't have rookie minicamp.
I didn't have OTAs because they were in a lockout. So,

Speaker 2 yeah, I just...

Speaker 2 I hung out in New York, then I went back to New Orleans because ironically, I was training in New Orleans. So I had already a townhouse there because when I was in Alabama,

Speaker 2 my best friend was my roommate and he was from New Orleans. So we used to go down there to train with this trainer.
So I trained with that trainer

Speaker 2 for combine prep. And so I had a townhouse in New Orleans.
So it all worked out right.

Speaker 2 So I just went back to New Orleans to the townhouse that I was already in and I just trained and worked out until I was able to get with the team.

Speaker 1 It's fascinating to me because it's a brave new world.

Speaker 1 dropped into a brand new city and you have to figure out so many things. On the franchises side, Coach, there's a lot of things you have to figure out as well.

Speaker 1 Obviously, the draft continues, but also you need to make sure your players that you just picked are in a good place, whether that's financially, whether that's mentally, physically, and everything else involved.

Speaker 2 Yeah, when I first started to get exposed to the draft, Alex Smith was my the number one overall pick of the Fortnite.

Speaker 2 That was the first time I was a head coach at Utah, young head coach, and the amount of attention and detail that they went into it. But most of that was,

Speaker 2 you know, the intangibles, leadership, toughness, all the things that you want to find out.

Speaker 2 When I went to Florida following that and then to Ohio State, my last dozen years or last 10 years, Mark, it went from,

Speaker 2 they had all the analytics on how he could throw toughness and all that. Every question was about how will this player handle money.

Speaker 2 The money became very significant, not that it wasn't before, but I mean, became really significant.

Speaker 2 And I guess I didn't didn't really study it, but you saw players get that money and lose their hunger. Yes.
And all of a sudden, you see this beast of a player in college fighting for survival.

Speaker 2 He's no longer fighting for survival. And every time, I mean, every time you'd have the GM, the head coach, when I had a Nick Boso or Zeke Elliott type player,

Speaker 2 tell me about how he handles money, tell me about his... his posse of people, his handlers,

Speaker 2 alcohol, drugs, women. That was all they they asked me.

Speaker 2 And so it became the transition the last 10 years or so, they didn't ask me about how he handles third and six because they figured that out. Tell me about his private life.

Speaker 2 Tell me about, at practice, does he have uncles showing up and people showing up because they want to avoid that. They want that same hungry dude that they're invested in.

Speaker 2 Well, you're seeing that now.

Speaker 2 Like, a lot of what these teams want, when you're investing millions of dollars into a player in the first round and you're committed to this player, you want to make sure that they have the right right character and that they have the right people around them.

Speaker 2 You're seeing that a lot in the draft. Like when you have questions about your character,

Speaker 2 off-the-field questions, like you start sliding. And so that's kind of like a big go-to for these teams these days.

Speaker 1 All right, so that's the player perspective. That's the coach perspective.
Let's talk about the fan perspective, right? As a fan, let's see. Yesterday we saw a baby barfing.

Speaker 1 We saw a commissioner riding in on a bike and getting crushed by multiple congratulatory hugs. And we saw the New York Giants emerge from night one as one of the true winners, Jerry.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you know, we said it on the show yesterday, too. I think the Giants came in here with the plan of Carter and a QB, like that was always the plan.

Speaker 4 But we got so much early action with the Browns making that trade right away. I kind of got worried about will the Giants do the same thing?

Speaker 4 So a lot of my New York buddies are now basically locking back into this team in a different way. And it's what we said yesterday, too.

Speaker 4 Obviously, you're watching all these players' lives change, but for the fan base, you know, it's the shot at hope.

Speaker 4 And all the Giant fans right now are pretty hopeful after getting a quarterback and a player like Carter, who I hear wants to maybe flirt with the idea of wearing number 56, which is, you know, LT territory in New Carpoli.

Speaker 4 So that's a pretty bold statement, early.

Speaker 2 Relax, you know. Got our attention.
Relax, y'all.

Speaker 1 Settle down, puppy. Settle down.

Speaker 4 Got our attention, that's for sure. So.

Speaker 2 Got my attention. Get your side of the bonus.

Speaker 2 Just get your side of the bonus and go to work. Let's worry about 56 later.
Yeah, don't.

Speaker 2 It's true. No kidding.
No kidding as well.

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Speaker 1 And actually, no, let's go back to the most adventurous pick from yesterday. I don't want to get ahead of myself quite yet.
Let's wrap up round one. And, Mark, as always, I want to start with you.

Speaker 2 Well, because I don't want to be a part of the patient. I appreciate you.

Speaker 2 I appreciate you. Not as always, just as of now.

Speaker 1 No, I want to start with you, and I also want to placate our fans over here. The folks in the green and the yellow, what did you think of your first-round draft pick yesterday?

Speaker 2 yeah finally a wide receiver in the first round wasn't that the first time since what like 2002 he said or something like that

Speaker 2 2002 who was 2002 javon walker javon walker so matthew golden gold number 23 to the pack i just i just loved the pick right because of like where we're at we're here in green bay right and so you see like

Speaker 2 The draft is traveling now, so you get to see like a fan base really get excited about their pick. And so they were chanting, go pack, go.

Speaker 2 they the the president comes out there he's you know egging it on he's he tees it up he's like the first time since 2002 the green bay packers draft a wide receiver and they start going crazy they didn't even hear the name yet it couldn't have been better yeah then they say matthew golden they go crazy they go absurd and he comes out he's like man let me let me get a green bay on three one two three green bay so like you see the connection of like the draft like relocating to different cities and you see this fan base accept this player and this player accept the fan base right back an immediate an immediate love an immediate like moment.

Speaker 2 That I'll, I thought it was the most fire draft pick ever. Yeah, yeah, take that live mic and own the audience because they are in your hands right now.

Speaker 2 He should have turnted it up even more because they was ready to go.

Speaker 3 But I wonder if they would have like picked a D tackle where they've been that excited.

Speaker 3 But the wide receiver, which is what they've been dying for in the first round, it couldn't have worked out any better.

Speaker 2 But that speed that

Speaker 2 4-2 speed, you know, give Jordan Love another weapon.

Speaker 2 I thought the moment was just iconic, man. And just shout out to Green Bay, man, because what a great job they're doing hosting this thing.
They showed their draft pick love yesterday.

Speaker 2 He gave them love back. So it might not be the most adventurous pick, but it was the most genuine pick.
It was awesome. I loved it, man.
It was all the fields. It was all the love.

Speaker 2 So shout out to Green Bay. Shout out to the Packers, man.

Speaker 1 So, Jerry, we talked earlier. Your Giants, one of the big winners.
I think one of the quiet, the stealth winners of the day was Atlanta, also getting two picks in the first round.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I was a little shocked by that because, you know, when you look at the Atlanta offense, right? Bijan, London, pretty low, did Pennex expect big things?

Speaker 4 And then, you know, they get a linebacker at 15 and they did come back into the end of the first round and they did give up a 2026 first round pick. So to me, they're saying this team is ready to go.

Speaker 4 We just have to bulk up the defense. And we won't know for a few years how that works out, but you give up a first to trade into the back end of the first round.

Speaker 4 Like Coach was talking about yesterday, you know, the Jimmy Johnson value system.

Speaker 4 Might have been a little bit different differential in the value, but I think Atlanta is going to be a problem if those two picks work out.

Speaker 1 jalen walker the linebacker from georgia then they stay in the sec always wise to take those sec guys getting james pierce from tennessee that was one of the conversations 15 sec players went in the first round 11 from the big 10 just two from the acc

Speaker 1 two from the big 12 one from the mountain west one from fccs coach let's pivot to you cleveland and they traded out of that number two spot And I feel they're walking away from day one, feeling good, particularly what they have coming down the road this year and next year.

Speaker 1 Not even this year, tonight.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm a Cleveland boy and have followed the Browns my entire life, and they've been taking hit after hit.

Speaker 2 You know, the Deshaun Watson story, you know, everything that's the criticism that's followed the Browns, and a lot of it's justified.

Speaker 2 They expose themselves because I don't think many people would argue. Travis Hunter is the best player in the draft, the best athlete, the best.

Speaker 2 Carter might be right behind him, but the best talent in the NFL draft in 2025 is Travis Hunter. You trade that away, and you take someone that doesn't perform, you're now exposed again.

Speaker 2 And justifiably, I think Mason Graham, I said this yesterday, we covered him. He's a Wolverine.
We covered him. I saw what he did against the Buckeyes in the final game of 2025.

Speaker 2 I've also, from the coaching perspective as an offensive coach my entire career, every day, every week I come in, the first thing I watch is that defensive line.

Speaker 2 If you can block the D-line, we're good.

Speaker 2 We'll be good offensively. If you can't, you are in a shit show.

Speaker 2 You got a problem.

Speaker 2 Jason Graham will be ready day one. That's what I'm saying.
The first day, the first game of 2025, that player will be the biggest impact player of the 2025 draft. He'll be starter, ready to go.

Speaker 3 And they also, I mean, they traded back, so they got a first round next year, right?

Speaker 1 Two first round picks.

Speaker 3 Two of the first four picks in the second round today, right?

Speaker 1 And they still have Miles Garrett. They still have whatever that is going to be.
Is he going to be locked and loaded in Cleveland? Cleveland?

Speaker 1 Is he going to be a pawn that could be played a little bit later?

Speaker 1 One of the big talking points, obviously, heading into tonight, and one of the big talking points yesterday, of course, was Shador Sanders. Where would the quarterback from Colorado land?

Speaker 1 And there had been a lot of talk in the time leading up to the draft. Pittsburgh seemed like a right spot down there low in the first round.
So it comes to Pittsburgh at number 21, Matt.

Speaker 3 Aaron Rodgers has to be going to Pittsburgh Steelers

Speaker 3 if this is happening because

Speaker 3 they don't have a pick again until the third round. they don't have a second-round pick today, so they're not unless they're as of now.

Speaker 3 So they picked Derek Harmon, the D-tackle from Oregon, 6'5, 320, a beast. And Coach, kind of go to your point,

Speaker 3 Mike Tomlin, Pittsburgh, Cam Hayward's kind of on his way out. He's got maybe a year or two left.
So it's a really good pick, but at 21,

Speaker 3 like Shador was there. Jackson Dart was there.

Speaker 3 I just don't know what they're doing. So adventurous pick.

Speaker 3 They went a solid pick on the D line to continue to shore up at Pittsburgh Steelers defense, which is what they're always known for, but they don't have a quarterback.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 it's just going to

Speaker 3 know what they're doing, and they don't have a pick until the third round, like the 80-something pick as of now. So they must know something that we all don't know,

Speaker 3 or they just didn't feel as highly as

Speaker 3 you know, obviously, on those quarterbacks at that pick. So I just think it's a good, solid pick for them.
Derek Harmon's a beast.

Speaker 3 I mean, you're talking a big old boy that could clog up the middle like a Mason.

Speaker 1 Hypothetically, if Aaron Rodgers is lined up to to go to Pittsburgh, is that a good move, Matt, in your eyes for the Steelers?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I mean, Aaron Rodgers is still Aaron Rodgers, and you can maybe go draft a guy in the third or fourth round and get someone, one of these other quarterbacks, like maybe a Tyler Shuck if they like him, maybe a Will Howard.

Speaker 3 He's kind of climbing up draft boards. Jalen Milro is potentially still out there.
He may go today, but

Speaker 2 look.

Speaker 3 Steelers just got DK Metcalf, right? They also, they need a running back. George Pickens may be on a trade block.
We'll see, see, but they have weapons now.

Speaker 1 Real quick, I just want to go down the line here before we take our first break here.

Speaker 1 Again, the triple option and the throwback show coming together here in Lambeau Field as we wrap up round one and get ready for round two and three.

Speaker 1 Something that popped for you. I'll go down the line, Jerry.
I'll start with you.

Speaker 1 Something that popped for you through the course of the draft, whether it was a moment, a winner, something that brought a smile to you, something that changed your perspective on one of the players or one of the programs.

Speaker 4 Well, I love when guys tear up.

Speaker 4 So that got me early. But to be quite honest, the fact that we had action at the number two pick and there was that trade that early.
And I started wrapping myself up.

Speaker 4 Wow, Travis Hunter is going to be in London a lot with those Jaguars. They play in London three or four games, so it's almost like, all right, he's going international early in his career.

Speaker 4 So that jumped out to me right away. We had that big of a move that early.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know, and I think the TV networks too are going to be like, oh, wait, this works.

Speaker 1 Let's see if we can get Jacksonville a little bit more here because people, at least early on, are going to want to watch to see what Travis Hunter does in Jacksonville.

Speaker 2 That's what got me. Every coach wants to coach energy.
There's nothing worse than coaching a team or a player that hates his job. I mean, it's awful.

Speaker 2 You know, you go out to practice him, and then all of a sudden you're like, come on, man, let's go. And just see his energy and enthusiasm as he's sprinted.
The first time I've seen that,

Speaker 2 he sprinted onto the field, onto the stage with Goodell.

Speaker 1 Tapping the Jag logo as he went down the hallway. I thought that was a really cool moment, Matty.

Speaker 3 I talked about it earlier. I love the raw emotion.
I love the guys getting interviewed and the genuine tears. It makes me so happy, and their lives change forever.

Speaker 2 I thought a couple picks.

Speaker 3 I thought the tight ends was interesting going into this with Tyler Warren, who we covered.

Speaker 3 Actually, both these guys, Colston Loveland, sorry, Packersman, going 10 to Chicago, which some thought might be a little bit of a stretch, but who's their head coach, Ben Johnson?

Speaker 3 A lot of the Colston reminds me a lot of Sam Laporta, who's a phenomenal player for the Detroit Lions.

Speaker 3 I thought it was pretty interesting. We had two tight ends go in the top 15 picks.
Tyler Warren went to the Indianapolis Colts, who definitely needed someone, and he's an absolute stud.

Speaker 3 I mean, a Swiss Army knife. So love the raw emotion in round one.
We're going to get a lot more of that today in round two. And

Speaker 3 tight ends getting some love in the first round. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Beast tight ends, too, by the way. But for me, it'd have to be just the Philadelphia Eagles just freaking muscling the draft again.

Speaker 2 They win the Super Bowl, then they finagle Kansas City out of their 31st pick and go and get Jihad Campbell out of the University of Alabama.

Speaker 2 One of the most versatile linebackers in this draft. He's an off-the-ball linebacker who can play inside.
He can go stand up and rush on the end.

Speaker 2 They finagle the Kansas Cities out of their pick after they just got whooped by them with defense. And now you let them go and get your pick and bolster their defense.

Speaker 1 That's what Philly does, man.

Speaker 2 Towie Roseman is a freaking goaded of the team right now.

Speaker 2 So now Philly just adds a freaking beast of a linebacker to already stack defense. So the Eagles with that pick, man, they're just playing chess, not checkers.
Everyone else is playing catch-up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, one of the things I love is just the affirmation that the NFL is just so powerful and so dominant and perceptive, and they get it. They read the room really well.

Speaker 1 Like, the creation of this is something amazing from the old Radio City music hall days.

Speaker 2 Every other pro sports team should be.

Speaker 1 It's watching. It's watching what the NFL does and following their lead.
They did something, and they did something twice last night, which kind of made me

Speaker 2 do like a little go. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Denver and Buffalo with Make-A-Wish teenagers to come out and make the pick for the programs that they care so much about. And the audience embraced it.

Speaker 1 The beautiful people here in Green Bay and Wisconsin, you know, just said, Denver, Buffalo, proper.

Speaker 2 Well done.

Speaker 1 I want that player to be successful because those young men who are fighting for their lives right now came out and made success.

Speaker 2 NFL don't play no games. They don't.
That shield don't play. They don't.

Speaker 2 That shield is a mug, I tell you that.

Speaker 1 Although, when the commissioner came out with the bike, right off the bat, I'm like, what is happening here?

Speaker 1 That's Green Bay.

Speaker 2 I know it's Green Bay.

Speaker 1 It took me like about five seconds to be like, oh, got it.

Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 2 No, you've seen a couple more coming down. And the bar, like, shaking right in the back.
I'm like, yeah, I'm not going to ride a bike or something.

Speaker 1 Who thought the commissioner wasn't going to be able to make that first turn, by the way?

Speaker 2 I was like, he's going to go off the stage.

Speaker 3 I don't know.

Speaker 2 I didn't know Lil Wayne was a diehard Packer fan. Oh, yeah.
Green and yellow. Yeah, there we go.
Yellow, Greene, yellow, greeny, yellow.

Speaker 3 I think, as we talk about all the time on our show, football, it's all about the fans and the connection and the love and the passion.

Speaker 3 And obviously, Green Bay has some of the best fans in the world, but that's what NFL, that's what they do, connecting the fans. And some of those stories are incredible.

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Speaker 1 2010 all-decade player from the NFL,

Speaker 1 Recently retired, soon-to-be Hall of Famer, Patrick Peterson.

Speaker 2 Everybody is here.

Speaker 2 That boy goaded.

Speaker 2 That boy goaded, man. Man, just a legendary person, a legendary player.
We both been battling since Bama LSU days.

Speaker 2 You know what I mean? 2011 draft class.

Speaker 2 We've been going at it, man. Just much love, much respect for what you've done on the field.
More importantly, who you are off the field, man.

Speaker 2 So we're blessed and appreciative to have you out here on the pie with us brother man i appreciate you guys as well for having me out here and um feels good being retired right now hey hey it's good on it's good on this side no doubt about it

Speaker 3 it's good on this side man well how you how are you keeping your days full now that you're done man golfing is one yeah

Speaker 2 he about a scratch golfer coach he looks like it looks almost almost i'm a five handicap so i golf try to golf every day My wife has a Pilates studio, so I'm kind of like the general manager of that.

Speaker 2 Take my kids to school every morning,

Speaker 2 pick them up every day. I'm a chef as well at home, so I try to cook dinner at least three days, three nights

Speaker 2 out of the week. Sundays is the big dinner day, but yeah, just try to do normal stuff now.
What's your go-to dish? My kids love pasta, so gas, whatever pasta they like, okay, and pizza.

Speaker 2 Okay, yeah, okay, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 Hey, man, I just got to toss this to Coach, man. I know you got an interesting story about us, man, with Pat Pete, man.

Speaker 2 I'm going to tell the story.

Speaker 2 What you got, coach? So I was on his podcast. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I told the story. And so we just won that.
What year did you come out of high school? 08. Oh, wait.

Speaker 2 So we just won a title at Florida, and it was unfair what the talent we had.

Speaker 2 I had him. It was done.

Speaker 2 I put my best recruiter. He's from E High School down in Palm Beach area.

Speaker 2 And Doc Holiday's recruiting them. And, man, the SEC, you just don't know what's going on, man.

Speaker 2 And I got him. He's got the most wonderful family.
I mean, hugging, crying. And I actually hit his computer, you know, just he was sitting by that desk.
I'll never forget this.

Speaker 2 And I look over and I nudge something, and on your screen comes a Gator. And I look at Doc and I said, we're good.
He goes, we're good. It's true.

Speaker 2 We drive home. And

Speaker 2 so we're like a couple days from signing date.

Speaker 2 And I get crickets, man. I call him up.

Speaker 2 It's quiet. I can't get a hold of him.
I call Doc. Doc Doc says, we're good.
We're good. I said, he's the best player in the country.
Doc, are we good? He said, we're good.

Speaker 2 Next thing I know, we don't get a hold of him. And all of a sudden, I see,

Speaker 2 we're live streaming, if I remember right.

Speaker 2 I think of Georgia, LSU, Florida, probably Bama Hat.

Speaker 2 And I'm looking at Doc, I'm looking at Doc, and he reaches over and grabs the LSU. I was like, no.

Speaker 2 The worst is we had to play against his butt for three years. And so he didn't have very good stats in Florida.
You know why?

Speaker 2 You know why? We didn't throw out.

Speaker 2 We played 10 on 10.

Speaker 2 You stood over there. Hey, I know what happened.

Speaker 2 That was a little bit of that pre-NIL.

Speaker 2 They went over there and dropped that little Duffy off.

Speaker 2 So what happened? What happened? They dropped that.

Speaker 3 What happened?

Speaker 2 Duffy off. No, I just played.
I just played. I just swear.
I just played. I just swear.
No, it was.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 I was very close to going to Florida.

Speaker 2 And they had a loaded team. You guys had tons of talent all over the place, but I felt like LSU was the better opportunity for me because their whole roster was leaving.

Speaker 2 So if I was going to Florida, not Joe Hayden, Joe Hayden.

Speaker 2 Yeah, not that I was afraid of competition, but Joe Hayden was in the sophomore year. You guys just got Genoris Jenkins.
Ahmad Black was, you guys just,

Speaker 2 he came in as a corner, but you guys transferred him back to safety.

Speaker 2 So it was much, it was an easier route for me to go to LSU and win a Jim Thorpe, be the first to win a Jim Thorpe, you know, create DBU. So I felt like the path was easier for me to go to LSU.

Speaker 2 Number seven days exactly. Hey, do you remember? I remember, I mean, there's so many things you remember.
I remember, because we're playing in that damn stadium down at LSU.

Speaker 2 And I'm looking, because I'm on the sideline, obviously.

Speaker 2 Patrick's right there, and I'd be looking at him going, come on. All the time.

Speaker 2 All the time. Come on, man.
The most memorable one, though, was... When was your last year at Florida? Was it 11, 10? So, yeah, that was the year we beat you guys with the flip over.
Terrible.

Speaker 2 Terrible. And I came up and was like, man, coach, man, because I knew that was my last year anyway.

Speaker 2 I was like, man, coach, I'll never forget all the good times we had when you coming down there and visiting me at the house, coming to

Speaker 2 my high school game, me giving you and Doc the Gator chop. Those were some fun times.
You're breaking his heart right now.

Speaker 2 I'm cheering up future Hall of Famer, man.

Speaker 2 Let him tell that he didn't coach that 2010 team.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 allegedly he was the coach of the 2010 Gators, Allegedly. He was there though.
I know because we whooped him too. Oh,

Speaker 2 but we won and won against each other. Okay.
Two and one, but he says the 2010 game doesn't count for whatever reason. Okay.
I have no idea. Pat, I would,

Speaker 3 as one of the all-time greats, I would love to get your perspective on just Travis Hunter. I'm sure you've talked about it, but just the two ways.

Speaker 3 We kind of talked about it yesterday, just as we all know, everything that goes in with preparation on a week, especially DB.

Speaker 3 I think DB, I think outside of quarterback, I think both of those are the toughest positions to play in sports as far as you being on an island and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 Can he do it both ways? And where do you see that at the next level with him?

Speaker 2 I believe he can do it

Speaker 2 at both ways at the NFL level. He's a special talent.
I know Coach has seen a bunch of talent in his coaching career. I don't know if Coach has seen many players like him.

Speaker 2 I mean, this guy can literally do it all.

Speaker 2 what he was able to do at the college level, I know a lot of guys were like, oh, he's playing against kids and this, that, and other, but he may not be able to, he may not be asked to do have that type of workload at the NFL level, but he is superb on both sides of the ball.

Speaker 2 So whatever,

Speaker 2 whatever position he plays 100%,

Speaker 2 I guarantee he's going to have a role on the opposite side of the ball. You know what I mean? So

Speaker 2 I don't want to say that he can't do it because we've never seen it. Right.
But he did it at a high level

Speaker 2 at the college level. It's going to be interesting to see if he can do it.
It's going to be hard, though.

Speaker 2 It is going to be hard.

Speaker 3 I think Cam Newton said on his podcast, can you imagine going up and practice every day against Tyreek Hillman, or going up against Tyreek and then Jalen Ramsey covering every snap?

Speaker 2 But when we say your role,

Speaker 2 I've seen people try to play a defensive player and a role on offense, and that serves two purposes, a decoy and then use them.

Speaker 2 Is there any chance I heard a comment that they're going to do that?

Speaker 2 He's going to be an offensive player and then play a little bit of defense and learn the defense. I've never heard heard that before.
I've heard the opposite. I've heard defense.

Speaker 2 Full-time defense and then go over and play some offense. So that's going to be the first time I've ever heard of that.
Have you ever heard that before? No, I haven't. It's going to be interesting.

Speaker 2 You remember

Speaker 2 with the Patriots? Was it Troy Brown? Yeah, Troy Brown. Troy Brown did it a little bit.
He was a nickelback, man.

Speaker 2 That's right. That's what I was thinking.
For the most part. I was going to say, like,

Speaker 2 which one do you think would be best?

Speaker 2 Do you think it would be a full-time DB, like, play 20 to 30 plays on offense or a full-time wide receiver and then just be kind of like the nickel dime back, you know?

Speaker 2 Well, because the NFL, they play a lot of nickel. So it's like, what do you think is the best? Honestly,

Speaker 2 he got very, very lucky because

Speaker 2 most top five teams don't have a secure quarterback situation. So the Jaguars traded up.
I mean, they don't, I'm not saying that Trevor is, you know, a top 10 quarterback, but he's a

Speaker 2 quarterback. If he's a quarterback, he's capable of winning.
So he got lucky in that aspect. So now he can play receiver.
Yes.

Speaker 2 Because I was thinking he's going to be top five, maybe going to Cleveland or somewhere like that. Now he can start on the defensive side of the ball

Speaker 2 and then get sprinkled in on the offensive side of the ball.

Speaker 2 So now with him being with Jacksonville, I can see him having a heavier role on the offensive side of the ball and playing nickel back on the defensive side of the ball, being in the money downs and third down situation,

Speaker 2 third down and goals, taking the number one receiver out and things like that.

Speaker 4 What memories do you have from your draft night? What comes back to you being here at the draft?

Speaker 2 man being in new york radio city hall yeah with mark yeah um you know cam aj green all those guys legendary what a class what a class what a class man

Speaker 2 it was unbelievable but i remember the uh the moment the day of the draft you know having my suit laid out yeah and the anxiety of not knowing where the heck you're going to be playing you know for the most part we had control of where we where we wanted to play and for the first time we had no idea you know so you've been hitting all type of speculations of houston uh i had the possibility of being a number one pick up until the draft we all knew cam was going to be number one um but then you just you know all right i can be a denver bronco i can be a cincinnati bangle yeah you know so it was just it was a bunch of anxiety and nervousness going through my body but once i got you know with the guys and we had that big picture with all of us there yeah that's when everything started yeah it started to calm down it's like i'm back in my element around the guys everybody's in a good place let's see what happens yeah you look over your right shoulder and you see one of the most historic buildings in all of athletics here in the United States.

Speaker 1 What are some of your memories of Lambeau?

Speaker 2 Oh, man. I haven't won many games in that stadium.

Speaker 2 You're not alone.

Speaker 2 But I do have a really good memory. It was in the preseason.
My second year,

Speaker 2 my second year in the NFL, I got an interception off Aaron Rodgers. But it was a lollipop.
He literally threw it right to me.

Speaker 2 But that's probably the only good memory that I have

Speaker 2 in Lambeau Stadium.

Speaker 1 And what's in store for you tonight in your affiliation with Arizona?

Speaker 2 I am announcing the second pick, the 47th pick in the second round for the Arizona Cardinals.

Speaker 3 Jerry wanted to get Giants.

Speaker 4 You should just go rogue and pick who you want, Pastor.

Speaker 4 I got asked a few years ago to announce the Giants second round pick. I didn't get to do it, but I thought in my head, what would happen to me if I got up and just said who I think they should do?

Speaker 2 Do I get banned from any NFL, anything of all time?

Speaker 4 Like, do I need to watch my back?

Speaker 2 I think you get Jerry. Did you know that answer, Jerry? What happens to me? I think you get banned.
Jeff Bayer thinks they can make a pitch. I tell you, Clay Matthews went off script last year.

Speaker 2 Oh, he did? He did. And he did Pat McAvee one year.
Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 3 Do you have a script? Are you just going to just wing it?

Speaker 2 Just going to wing it. Just going to do, yeah.
Just going to wing it. Rise up, Red C.

Speaker 3 You still follow Arizona and who they draft and all that?

Speaker 2 Now that I'm on this side side of the world right now, I will start paying more closer attention to it.

Speaker 3 Man, it's just retirement.

Speaker 2 Welcome to the you pick who you want, Patrick. You take who you think is right.
He's earned y'all. He's earned that.
You earned that right. You never thought about coaching? Nah, coach.
Nope.

Speaker 2 Nope to sell. It's a hard no.

Speaker 2 Only thing I want to do in football, if I was to get into like a football role, is in the front office.

Speaker 2 I feel like I would want to put my mind and really put my my hands on a team. Like, I feel like the coaching is too stressful.
I played football long enough. I've been away from my family long enough.

Speaker 2 I feel like I can be able to control my own work schedule. I still got a visual, man, of as good as he was on defense,

Speaker 2 I was a special teams coordinator. Your butt went back there to catch those punts, man.
Yeah, man.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I was a little Travis Hunter before Travis Hunter. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Did you ever play offense? I did.

Speaker 2 College? No, not in college. Just in high school.
Oh, yeah, I remember that. Yeah, it would be weird.
Let's move on for that. Yeah, I'm still pissed off.

Speaker 4 Well, I'm just saying, like, I can only imagine you coaching up DVs and then saying, But, like, why can't you execute this?

Speaker 2 Because you could do it that way, but not everyone can do it the way you.

Speaker 1 That would probably be a little frustrating.

Speaker 2 I just don't understand why you can't do this. Well, you're, I mean, because that's how I am now with my girls in the house.
Like, why we just can't listen?

Speaker 2 I was a good listener. That's all I did all my life.
Just listen. But my wife's like, it's different.
10 and 5. There's different.
Like, I got it.

Speaker 1 Green Bay. the good news is you don't have to worry about Patrick Peterson anymore.

Speaker 2 He is off.

Speaker 1 He is retired. Congratulations on a wonderful career.

Speaker 2 And enjoy it tonight, man.

Speaker 1 That's a really cool honor. Something really special.

Speaker 1 And make sure you have the dinner planned for the kids later tonight since you're not there. All right.

Speaker 2 Actually, I cooked pasta last night.

Speaker 2 Catchio Pepe. A little catchy old Pepe.
I'm hungry now. It's called Mac and Cheese, essentially.
Mac and Cheese.

Speaker 1 Patrick, so congratulations on everything.

Speaker 2 Thanks so much for watching. Best ever do it, man.
One of the best, ever do it. One of the best.

Speaker 1 Patrick Peterson, everybody, plenty more coming your way from the draft house presented by Nissan from Green Bay.

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Speaker 2 yeah football weather

Speaker 3 either it's football weather i like it i feel like we're like week nine in the season acting is this acting weather, Jerry?

Speaker 4 No, because if this were acting, we'd actually be in like shorts and t-shirts. Because every time you need it to be cold, it's hot.
And every time you need it to be hot, it's cold.

Speaker 4 You're always acting opposite with the real weather.

Speaker 1 Jerry is shaking right now.

Speaker 3 What's the coldest you've ever been on set? Coldest you've ever been on set, bro.

Speaker 4 Coldest. We had a fake summer fight scene once, and it was 18 degrees in New York.
And it was supposed to be the middle of the summer. It's shorts and yeah, that was rough.
That was rough.

Speaker 1 All right, we are back live from Green Bay, Wisconsin. Of course, you see beautiful Lambeau Field right behind us here.
The triple option. Throwbacks presented by Nissan here from the draft house.

Speaker 1 It's in the mid-40s right now. The feels like weather, according to Mark, is

Speaker 1 30s, low 40s.

Speaker 2 The feel is cold.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this kind of feels like we're Columbus in November, Ann Arbor in November.

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Speaker 1 All right, so we're going to talk right now about some interesting talents that are still out there.

Speaker 2 Man, there's a lot of great talents out there.

Speaker 1 Again, tonight, round two and round three. Mark, again, I'm going to start with you so I don't offend you.

Speaker 1 I don't want to get on your bad side. One of the themes of this draft coming in was that it was thin at quarterback, but deep at running back.

Speaker 1 Two running backs taken in the first round, both of them legit, legit guys, like day one starting guys. There's a flood of talent still sitting out there.

Speaker 2 Big shout out to the running backs, man. Ashton Genti, number six.
Omari and Hampton going to the Chargers. Two first-round backs.
We love the backs going in the first round.

Speaker 2 But there's going to be some teams that get some very high-quality, productive, experienced backs here in the next two or three rounds, man.

Speaker 2 And what I'm looking forward to in particular is Quinn Sean Judkins, the running back for the Ohio State University. You're talking about a back who has been productive in the SEC and the Big Ten.

Speaker 2 He's been over a thousand yards for three straight seasons, over 14 touchdowns, three straight seasons.

Speaker 1 Hold on, Mark.

Speaker 1 The scintillating video of Coach over here cleaning his glasses.

Speaker 2 Coach is ready for his pick. He's cleaning the transitions.

Speaker 2 He's cleaning the transitions.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but yeah, I'm talking about your boy Quish on. You feel me? You know what I mean? Hey, Coach ain't listening to you.
No.

Speaker 2 Stay, Coach. I got the other back, so it's like another day on big news, right? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Coach over here. Coach over here.

Speaker 2 Talking, coach. Oh, God.
That's good. Come on, Mark.
I'm so sorry. No, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 You got to make sure the transition. I was done worrying about my glasses.

Speaker 2 They were always a focal point.

Speaker 2 Talk of the segment now. Yeah.
Coach's transition.

Speaker 1 You got some soft transitions going on, too, as well.

Speaker 2 Those transitions.

Speaker 1 Are those prescriptions?

Speaker 2 You know, these are just a little bit of that. You heard me.

Speaker 2 You know what I'm talking about? I got to stay clean. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 Yeah, so Quishon Juck is man. So, yeah.

Speaker 3 For everybody out there, this is what we get every single week on the road.

Speaker 2 This is the greatest.

Speaker 1 So his running mate in Columbus is your focus.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Travion Henderson came back for his senior year, and whoever advised him did the right thing.

Speaker 2 And that's, I'm loving it.

Speaker 2 Once again, the negatives of NIL. Trayon, I don't know what he made.
He probably made a lot of money to come back, but whoever advised him, that was correct advice.

Speaker 2 I thought, Mark, I thought he played his way into the first round. His junior year, he was the first hit, go down type player.
That was his reputation. Great speed.

Speaker 2 You see how I listen when I clean my transitions?

Speaker 2 I like that.

Speaker 2 Those transitions. Learn from me.
Learn from me. But Trayvion, I'm surprised he did not go in the first round.
I thought he's a first-round talent.

Speaker 2 He worked his way, in my opinion, to the first round. He was not a first-rounder his junior year, and so I think he'll go with it in the first three, four picks of the second round.

Speaker 2 And he's great out of the backfield, very good hands, his explosiveness,

Speaker 2 he's the deal.

Speaker 2 You think he's next up? He's the first back off the board in the middle. You know what?

Speaker 2 Whatever the training they did with him, I know I stayed at a new running back coach, but he became a post-contact runner, which he was not. Well, that's something that he had to work on.

Speaker 2 So when you come back for another year, you know you have to improve in certain areas, and he improved significantly in running between the tackles and getting running behind his pads.

Speaker 2 Remember, he was the first, he'd go down. He'd get tackled.
He didn't get tackled. He'd rip through tackles.

Speaker 1 You know, another thing, too, his maturity was tested last season, right? We're going to bring in a tailback to split carries with you. And he took that one for the team and said, you know what?

Speaker 1 The higher goal is winning the national title. I never heard a

Speaker 1 bit of

Speaker 1 attitude from him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, in the summer camp when I was there, I saw him. He was like, we're here to win a title, man.

Speaker 1 He wants 20 carries a game. You got it.
If I'm the guy, you got it. That tells me a lot.

Speaker 2 That's what you want in a player, though. A player who's not a player to compete.
And Quinn Sean Junkins being there made him better. They both made each other better.

Speaker 1 And also took some wear and tear off their bodies as well, right? Not as many hits, not as many carries.

Speaker 3 Very similar to what, I mean, Ameka Abuka last night got drapped her first round, but we talked about it.

Speaker 1 Time to bay Buccaneers.

Speaker 3 Jeremiah Smith took all the headlines. Abuka came back to school.
Kind of just did his role, and he was a first-round draft pick, too. So Ohio State, what, four first-round picks last night?

Speaker 2 So all you youngers.

Speaker 3 How are you you going to have more today with those rules?

Speaker 2 I'm going to tell them all the youngest out there that's just leaving and going with the win. Control what you can control.
Your attitude, your preparation, how you work, how you're a teammate.

Speaker 2 Do things the right way, and you will reap what you sow, which you've seen with a mecha egg book, and you will see today with Tray Man Hansen and the Quishing on John.

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Carl Carble. No way.
Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. Those are your two picks.
Matt, I'm going to end with you. But, Jerry, I want to go with you.
And

Speaker 1 we talked yesterday. Cleveland had the ability to be one of the big winners of the draft.
They made a big move. Coach talked about it earlier.
Their draft is far.

Speaker 1 Far from done, and today's going to be really fascinating with the Browns.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I love the early action. Like I said, you know, I thought it was a cool trade to get out of the first round.

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Speaker 4 You like how I did that, right? But, you know, obviously the the defense now is setting up to be good, but I think the run on wide receivers is going to continue to come.

Speaker 4 And I think you've got to grab them at one of these two second-round picks.

Speaker 2 There's a guy.

Speaker 1 There's a ton of great wide receivers.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm looking at Luther Burden out of Missouri. I think that, you know, Jerry Judy had a really good year.
Jameis got on the ball.

Speaker 2 And we talked a lot about Ohio.

Speaker 4 And, you know, my wife's from Cleveland, so I'm talking. A lot of my

Speaker 4 friends out there, their kids are a little upset that Travis Hunter wasn't there.

Speaker 4 They already wanted to buy the jersey, but I think they could set up to really bolster the offense now with these two second-round picks.

Speaker 1 Again, two of the first four picks in the second round

Speaker 1 belong to the Browns, and they have two first rounders next year that they can play with as well.

Speaker 4 And strawberry, Frosty Swirl, Strawberry.

Speaker 2 They got to chop one up for strawberry. The strawberry dish smashed.
Yeah, I'm not going to lie. Yeah, they're all great.
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Speaker 1 They're all great. Matt, before we get to your priority,

Speaker 1 what's your cool pick, Frosty Swirl?

Speaker 3 Honestly, I was leaning heavily towards Caramel before, because I'm a big Caramel guy.

Speaker 2 Carmel. Carmel.
Man, that Brownie batter was his cat. That brownie batter.
Okay.

Speaker 1 All right, so the one guy that everybody was talking about yesterday, Shador, and they're talking about even more today

Speaker 1 is Shador Sanders.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I mean, it was crazy. He was the talk in the first round where he was going to go or where he was going to fall to.
And I just talked about a little earlier: the Steelers pass on at 21.

Speaker 3 Then we saw the Giants trade back in to get Jackson Dart, who clearly was their guy in this draft. And I would be shocked if Cleveland doesn't take him with the first pick in the second round tonight.

Speaker 3 I would be shocked. But

Speaker 3 it's just interesting. You know, it's interesting.

Speaker 3 You know, there was so much, and Coaching, you've been a part of this, the evaluation process, and there's so many narratives being thrown around and this and that.

Speaker 3 And the kid kind of took a beating throughout this process, probably because of his name and probably because of all of the attention that Colorado received the last couple years.

Speaker 2 I'm rooting for him.

Speaker 3 I think he's a really, really good football player. player.
And I would say this, I think there's less pressure on him now.

Speaker 3 there's a big difference between being a first-round draft pick and a second round and so on and so forth at that position yeah there's less pressure on him wherever he goes to go beat the guy right away because one he's not making first round money in in a way it might be the greatest blessing that ever happens to Shador.

Speaker 2 He's a hell of a player. He's going to go work and he's going to do all that.

Speaker 3 But I'm interested to see where he goes. My gut is

Speaker 3 I feel like it has to be Cleveland because Pittsburgh doesn't have a pick. So we'll see what they do.

Speaker 4 Is there a real chip on the shoulder thing? I know we talk, like, media talks about it. I was going to have a real chip on the shoulder, but from a player's perspective, now you're right.

Speaker 4 The first round's over, so that whole thing is out. You can forget about that, move past it.
If he goes in the second round or later, is that a real thing?

Speaker 4 Because I can't imagine he's going to work extra hard.

Speaker 3 He was going to work hard no matter what, right?

Speaker 2 You know, I want to ask you a question, Matt.

Speaker 2 We talked about Green Bay. They kind of have the secret sauce on how to develop quarterbacks here.
They take Aaron Rodgers, learns from one of the greatest of all time, Brett Fire. They take Love.

Speaker 2 He learns from Aaron Rodgers. How many quarterbacks, I saw a stat yesterday, quarterbacks that are forced to go play as a rookie, it doesn't end well a lot of times.

Speaker 2 The quarterbacks that have these great careers, Tom Brady,

Speaker 2 they learn

Speaker 2 the difference between big boy ball and college ball.

Speaker 2 Maybe it is a blessing. Shadurgos backs up someone for a couple years.

Speaker 2 If that was my son, that's where I would want him to go.

Speaker 3 I'd want him to go learn the game, not be put in harm's way and just get beat to death and then on some bad team there's there's a couple players like even jaden daniels last i don't i don't know if we thought jaden daniels was going to go out and be what he i mean he was danier mvp of the league like that kid is special but

Speaker 3 he is transcendent talent with his ability to run and he had this off he had cliff kingsbury who knew exactly what to do with him and so like we saw that talent and he made guys around him better, right?

Speaker 3 I mean, they had Terry McLaurin, but it's not like the commanders have a ton of weapons on the outside. Shador needs Shador's the type of quarterback who just needs a he needs a good team around him.

Speaker 3 He needs really good football players. He needs to learn.
He needs a great offensive coordinator, a great play caller.

Speaker 3 I do worry Cleveland, like you just talked about it, Jerry Judy is their guy, and a lot of that was Jameis Winston just giving him the law against Lingin.

Speaker 2 300 yard receiving gig.

Speaker 3 You look at the weapons they have or the lack thereof.

Speaker 3 But like Joe Flacco is there. Maybe it's a perfect guy to learn from for a year, maybe two.
That's why I love Jackson Dart. He's going to New York to back up Russell Wilson and Jameis Winston.

Speaker 3 You're not thrust into the limelight in New York right away.

Speaker 3 But I'm with you, coach.

Speaker 3 It's a tough transition. And if you're, I just feel like

Speaker 3 it's going to be a blessing for him to kind of have that first round, all of this stuff, all the pressure off of him, and go out there and just go work because we know he will.

Speaker 2 He's going to work.

Speaker 3 And I think he's going to end up being a good player.

Speaker 2 Let's talk about Jaden Daniels real quick. So the one thing when you think about

Speaker 2 he was closest to the NFL in the SEC. So he was facing a lot of NFL players all all season long

Speaker 2 at LSU.

Speaker 2 Shadur is not.

Speaker 2 Shador has not faced NFL talent. Well, and the common theme you're seeing with players like Jay and Daniels, they played six years.
So they had extra years of experience. Bo Nicks, six years.

Speaker 2 Michael Pennix, six years. So that's experience and time on task.
And there is no better learning lesson than experience.

Speaker 2 And so you got these 24-25-year-old quarterbacks who are mature, as kind of young men, kind of had a lot of experience, and they're going into the league and being successful right away.

Speaker 2 But back to what Jerry said, like with that chip on your shoulder, Shadur has always had this underdog mentality. I've seen something like he posted the other day.

Speaker 2 He was like, you know, I've always been looked over. I was a three-star quarterback.
I went to Jackson State. I go to Colorado.
So he's always had this underdog mentality.

Speaker 2 And I think that's going to continue to carry him. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think it's going to continue to carry him because you do.

Speaker 2 When you have a chip on your shoulder, it's not just like, okay, like, I have a chip on my shoulder.

Speaker 2 It's no, like, the days where you don't feel like doing it, and the days you don't feel good, you remember how you felt the the first round with your whole family with you you remember how that felt and it makes you go harder so that chip does carry I was one of those players that play with a chip on my shoulder you know I mean I think that does carry I think it is a serves as a great motivating factor especially when you go through something like he did yesterday a little humble pie yeah right just a little humble pie he was great motivation he was great he posted that video last night I thought he was great he was like It wasn't what we expected.

Speaker 3 You know, it is what it is.

Speaker 3 I'll be ready when my name's called.

Speaker 2 We'll still be happy. I'm going to to still be happy.

Speaker 1 It's going to be called tonight. It is going to be called tonight.

Speaker 2 Trader Sanders will be drafted today.

Speaker 3 I think he's going 33rd.

Speaker 2 First pick.

Speaker 1 Let me throw out a couple other names here. We talked about this run on running backs.
Caleb Johnson, Iowa tailback, 6-1-2-24, 1,500 yards and 21 touchdowns last year. That is a stud.

Speaker 2 Our guy, Dylan Sampson,

Speaker 2 Scataboo.

Speaker 1 Scataboo still sitting out there. Our run on wide receivers.
There's two from TCU, and I'm a little close to the TCU TCU program right now, but Jack Besch, 1,000 yards, senior bowl MVP.

Speaker 1 Savion Williams, really versatile, tall playmaker, can do a ton of stuff for them. He's going to be interesting.

Speaker 2 A sleeper wide receiver, Isaiah Bond.

Speaker 1 Yes, another one. Another one for sure.

Speaker 1 Defense, one quick name, a guy we all like, and I think

Speaker 1 if your team selects Jack Sawyer, you are very happy.

Speaker 1 You are secure, and you are upbeat.

Speaker 1 But we got a good guy who's a good player and is great in the locker room.

Speaker 2 Another Another good prospect, Nick E. Manwari, the safety out of South Carolina.
A dog.

Speaker 3 Hey, talk about Cam Chancellor. Like, he's got sides like that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the big old dude.

Speaker 1 I want to throw one position out here.

Speaker 1 It's not a sexy position, but to me, it's fascinating. Center.
You get the right center. You are locked and loaded for 10, 12,

Speaker 1 15 years. You get the right guy, and the best centers are still out there.
Jared Wilson from UGA, from Georgia, only a one-year starter.

Speaker 1 Seth McLaughlin, remember, played at Alabama, Ohio State, had the Achilles injury. The Achilles injury.

Speaker 2 That is a sleeper position, Stoner. Who touches the ball more than the freaking center?

Speaker 2 Nobody. Other than that.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I'm fascinated.

Speaker 2 He might get more snaps if you have a Wildcat QB.

Speaker 3 There's nothing like a QB-center relationship.

Speaker 2 I know you're up in there nice and personal.

Speaker 2 Up in that. Personal space.
Green Bay.

Speaker 2 There's nothing better than a sweaty ass.

Speaker 2 Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 2 You're welcome, Green Bay. You're welcome.
Hey, man.

Speaker 1 Rowbacks, the triple option. This is a great thing.

Speaker 2 Nothing better than a sweaty ass.

Speaker 3 I had a great story, but we go to break.

Speaker 2 You know what? We can go. We'll sit on the bottom.

Speaker 2 That's my motto.

Speaker 2 That's the new motto. Nothing better than a sweaty ass.

Speaker 3 I'm telling you what, man. There is nothing worse than just getting a little bit.
I'm going to be careful what I say here because I know Mark's going to be ripping me.

Speaker 3 I was in Houston in 110-degree weather in August in training camp, and the centers had to switch out their shorts of their pants three times during practice because you get up in there and it's just dripping on your hand.

Speaker 2 Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 No, and it drips on you. The ball and all that kind of stuff, man.
I'll tell you what, Alex Parsons, I'll never forget. Alex Parsons was my center in Oakland.

Speaker 3 I was the backup, so he was number two. So when we go in, I always had to carry an extra pair of pants on the sidelines.
No, because he was a sweater.

Speaker 1 I told him, I was like, are you guys enjoying the story, Green Bay?

Speaker 2 You'll get this nowhere.

Speaker 2 Guys, content.

Speaker 3 This is the stuff that happens.

Speaker 2 You can't get this nowhere other than a quarterback who've been up in there under that thing.

Speaker 2 You feel me? That thing. 380s.

Speaker 2 Oh, shit. Hey, but by the way, then we grabbed that and then we handed off to you.

Speaker 3 By the way, you touched the same ball. I do.

Speaker 2 Let me get that, too. I need that, actually.

Speaker 2 Oh, man. Once again, the draft house.
I'll leave it there.

Speaker 2 I don't know where the ball comes from, but I need that thing.

Speaker 2 I need to touch it. I need it.
I got to have it. All right, we're going to go

Speaker 1 sanitize our hands and our brains right now and take a quick little break when the draft house presented by Nissan returns

Speaker 2 to Green Bay.

Speaker 1 Scott's going to talk more about the NFL draft coming away. It is the throwbacks, it is the triple auction coming together to talk about topics we didn't really have in our rundown.

Speaker 1 We're going to take a quick break, and Matt's going to tell us some more gross things during the break.

Speaker 2 Dead ass.

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Speaker 1 Welcome back to the draft house presented by Nissan. Again, we are live from Green Bay, Wisconsin.
Rob, Jerry, Urban, Matt, and Mark back here with you.

Speaker 1 Round two and round three from the NFL draft coming away live a little bit later tonight.

Speaker 1 Coach, I'm curious about the interactions that you have had with the NFL in your time as a head coach, whether it was at Utah or Florida, maybe even Bowling Green, and obviously Ohio State, the conversations that would come into you and how you would manage them about your players.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you develop relationships with coaches and GMs over the years and assistant coaches and scouts and

Speaker 2 you'd earn a lot of respect and get to know them. And so I had a really tough situation happen one time.

Speaker 2 I was at the University of Florida and I had a team full of draft picks.

Speaker 2 And a scout would come in and I all just kind of felt you dealt with him honestly, you know, and I they're telling me about this guy. I said, yeah, he's a little stiff.

Speaker 2 He's you know, he's got this issue and this issue. And I'm being real honest with him.

Speaker 2 And the player fell out of the first round or, you know,

Speaker 2 and the family comes in my office and said, I was told by the scout or I was told by someone

Speaker 2 that

Speaker 2 I said that. And they were pissed off at me.

Speaker 2 I played for you, coach. I gave you everything.
How can you do that?

Speaker 2 I'm looking at this player and I got so angry that from that point forward in my career, I instructed my coaching staff and I never, when a scout that I didn't know came in and said, tell me about Mark Ingram, he's a great player.

Speaker 2 I love that dude. He gave me everything he had.
I'd take him. Coach, angry?

Speaker 1 Angry with yourself and how you handle the situation?

Speaker 2 No, angry with

Speaker 2 you. You broke the trust bonds.

Speaker 2 And as a head coach, I'm obligated to you guys.

Speaker 2 I'm not obligated to the Packers, the Bills, the

Speaker 2 Giants. I would have been mad at you too, Coach.
I ought to be really upset.

Speaker 2 So from that point forward, I would instruct my staff every year, you do not, that's none of their business, let them go figure it out. Now, is that the right way to do business?

Speaker 2 Your loyalty is with your players. And so from that point forward, now, Bill Belichick, Mike Tomlin to come in to have a good relationship with, they'd ask me that.

Speaker 2 I'd wait for them to ask me the question, and then I'd also say, This is it. Because I have an obligation also to be honest, too.

Speaker 2 That's a really interesting dilemma that you deal with.

Speaker 1 And on the flip side, maybe you might have some conversations with some scouts who are like, why are you putting this guy up so high on the board?

Speaker 1 He's not top 10 material.

Speaker 1 He needs another year in college, right? And a lot of kids will read these draft boards and get excited about, hey, maybe I do need a jump.

Speaker 1 And when you know, maybe deep in your heart of hearts, another year would really serve a better purpose.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's a tough one. I'll tell this story, too, that I had, you know, the agents, they're like in in any walks of life, you have really great agents, and you have some that aren't so great.

Speaker 2 They're self-serving. And I had a player

Speaker 2 one time come in and say, I'm leaving after my junior year. And I said, you're not ready.
You're not leaving.

Speaker 2 And, of course, there's that third uncle sitting there. He's like, oh, he's ready.
He's ready. And then I had the guy who says, my agent told me he can get me up into the second round.

Speaker 2 And I said, listen, you're a free agent. or you're a late-round pick.
Here I'm going to put the general manager

Speaker 2 of the Steelers, I used to call him, or Rick Spielman.

Speaker 2 And if Rick Spielman said he should leave, then I tell him. But if Rick Spielman said, no, he needs one more year, I tell him as well.
But then

Speaker 2 the player would hear from some agent or someone saying, I can get you into the second round. There's not an agent that exists that can get a player.

Speaker 2 The agent can't get you a player into the second round, the player. Yes.
By playing. The agent can't get you improved draft style.

Speaker 2 You, as the player, has to go out there and perform, test, interview, and that can up your draft style. It's not an indictment on agents.
It's just the reality.

Speaker 2 Sometimes they're like, what are you talking about?

Speaker 3 It's the same thing with the transfer portal, too, right?

Speaker 3 Just the

Speaker 3 they have all of this. So many people in your ear saying, you go here, go here.

Speaker 2 We're seeing that the grass is not always greener. A 20, 20-year-old is not equipped to make the major life decisions.
That's why they need their father. They need

Speaker 2 a coach, someone that has their best interest at heart.

Speaker 1 And also, how NIL has changed this conversation as well, because now these kids are getting paid to stick around for another year at a good price point. And guess what? I can mature.

Speaker 1 I can become a better player for the NFL with that extra year in college and still, yeah, and still be getting taken care of.

Speaker 1 We've got about another 10 minutes left here from the draft house presented by Nissan, the throwbacks, the triple option guys here with you. Time now.
Let's hand it over to Jerry.

Speaker 1 We got some fan questions out there.

Speaker 4 Yes. Jerry, Jerry.

Speaker 2 I had picked these guys. Thousands of questions.
I've picked these guys.

Speaker 2 Curtel, Proctor, Proctor. Gotta pick a character, Mark.

Speaker 4 Gotta pick a character.

Speaker 2 All right, this is from

Speaker 4 Dan in Houston. And I don't know how we feel about this.
I know this year's draft isn't over, but I'm already looking ahead to next year.

Speaker 4 Maybe his team didn't get what they did because the Texans traded out of the route. Any names, start familiarizing myself now for 2020.

Speaker 1 Arch Manning, everybody. Arch Manning.

Speaker 3 Houston doesn't need need a quarterback.

Speaker 4 No, but just, I don't even think for Houston, just maybe in general.

Speaker 2 But right now, that's what I think he was asking.

Speaker 1 There's already those conversations about those patterns.

Speaker 2 I'm just right there.

Speaker 1 Maybe we hold off on the QB this year because it's not a quote-unquote great QB stock. And Matt, next year, they're already talking about some of the great quarterbacks that could become available.

Speaker 3 Well, I'm looking it up right now because

Speaker 3 in a couple months here, we're about to be going back to work early.

Speaker 2 That's right. We're starting work early.

Speaker 3 The quarterback class next year is loaded, I think, because you have obviously potentially Arch.

Speaker 3 He hasn't played a lot of football, so we'll see Nussmeier out of LSU. You have Drew Aller.
Maybe he's the talent. You got

Speaker 3 Arizona State, Levitt.

Speaker 3 Coach, you're so bad.

Speaker 3 Kevin Jennings at SMU. I mean, it's a very, very, very deep class.

Speaker 3 Carson Beck.

Speaker 2 I don't know, you know?

Speaker 2 What, coach? I mean,

Speaker 2 I'm still thinking about Schroeder Shanders. I'm not worried about that.

Speaker 2 Is that class really the star?

Speaker 3 You know who's a star? Yeah. Caleb Downs.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Ohio State Safety. He's going to be a top-five pick next year.

Speaker 2 All right. I got another one.

Speaker 4 This one might be a selfish one from the Green Bay fans here. Terry from Green Bay.
Could you envision Green Bay or another cold weather city getting a Super Bowl? We saw it in New York.

Speaker 1 I kind of want it to happen, don't you?

Speaker 2 Do they have enough race to next man?

Speaker 3 No offense.

Speaker 2 That's not going to happen. Never happening, right? right? It's not going to happen.
They don't have enough accommodations, I don't think.

Speaker 3 I think the last Four Weather City was, what, Minnesota?

Speaker 2 But that's dome. They're talking about just outdoor.
No, they're saying outdoor game as well.

Speaker 3 That was not good, I don't think.

Speaker 2 The New York game?

Speaker 3 No, the Minnesota game, even though it was in a dome. Right.

Speaker 1 It was tough for

Speaker 2 those activities.

Speaker 3 It was freezing.

Speaker 2 They would never have an outdoor game.

Speaker 3 I just can't imagine they're ever going to have an outdoor game in February.

Speaker 2 It'd be kind of cool. You know what?

Speaker 4 I'm going to take the next fan question because I am curious about this, too.

Speaker 2 I do love Green Bay, by the way. Yes, yes.

Speaker 3 Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 2 No doubt.

Speaker 1 And what's better than Green Bay in February? Am I right?

Speaker 2 Do you guys think any...

Speaker 4 What is it like now when these young players getting drafted, coming to the team?

Speaker 4 A lot of them are coming into this situation already pretty well off financially, you know, and they obviously are going to, that position is going to change. She's going to make NFL money.

Speaker 4 Is that going to be different at all? You think, like, young kid walking in, just got drafted, and you already

Speaker 2 made a couple million years, but yeah. You have a couple millions already.

Speaker 3 It's going to be harder to do the rookie stay, Rook.

Speaker 2 It's like, Rook. Yeah, I can't relate.

Speaker 3 Being a rookie, no matter what, it's all about getting the respect of your teammates. And those guys,

Speaker 3 vets, they don't give two shits.

Speaker 2 No one's going to feel bad about making you pick up the bill.

Speaker 3 You can't come in and thinking you're all hot. You have to come in and

Speaker 3 work and earn their respect no matter what position you are.

Speaker 2 You're going to have to pick up the pads. You're going to have to do some rookie stuff.

Speaker 2 And everyone before you had to do it. So what makes you better than everyone else that come before you? So just be a good rookie.
Be respectful. Don't be talking shit.
Be a good rookie.

Speaker 2 So here I want to ask you guys this.

Speaker 2 So Charlie Strong, my dear friend that was my co-head assistant head coach, when I first got hired in Florida, he said, these kids in Florida and the South are different. This is their way to go eat.

Speaker 2 I said, what do you mean? He said, because we're at Notre Dame and usually you get... you know, a little

Speaker 2 from a high-end school and all that. You're down south in some of these places.

Speaker 2 He's a coach. You go down to Okeechobee and the buck down there, they're trying to eat.
You're going to see kids.

Speaker 2 You're going to see, and I'll never forget, man, I was exposed to this is their way out.

Speaker 2 This is their way. And when you coach a player that's hungry,

Speaker 2 nothing like it. Or a team that's hungry.
My question is.

Speaker 2 Shador made 4.7 mil last year, is what I heard. Do you lose your hunger?

Speaker 2 You guys made a lot of money.

Speaker 2 He's getting a new fuel up under him right now. Do you see players lose their hunger when they get paid, though? Some people do.
That's why you have to get the right player.

Speaker 2 That's why the character, you talked about the question that you ask about players. How do they feel about money? How is their support system around them?

Speaker 2 Because some players love the game so much where the money is just part of it, right?

Speaker 3 And some people only do it for the money.

Speaker 2 And the player you want is the player who loves the game so much, day in, day out. Injury, no injury, competition, competition, first string, second string.

Speaker 2 they're going to give you everything they got because they want to be the best player to play.

Speaker 2 These players lose their hunger. Of course.
Of course. Some people have that hunger as a rookie, then they get the second contract and they get complacent.

Speaker 2 And they don't perform the same way they did to get the deal. But then you have other people who continue to press the envelope.
Patrick Peterson,

Speaker 2 he was the fifth pick. He made a lot of money.
He was never... content with the money.
He wanted to be the greatest player to ever play the game at the cornerback position.

Speaker 2 And he played 13 years all decade and he'll be a Hall of Famer. So, you have you have to have you have to know the character, the family, and what drives this player.

Speaker 2 So, college coaches used to say the players enter their junior year, that's your contract

Speaker 2 year.

Speaker 2 They're entering their contract.

Speaker 3 My contract year now is going into college.

Speaker 4 I would often get asked on the acting level for advice for some younger people, and you can't really relate anything to football because you're not putting bodily harm at risk.

Speaker 4 But I would always say, Unless you do your own stuff. Well, I would always say, would you want to do this if it didn't pay well?

Speaker 1 Like, if it just was like, hey, hey, you're going to make a living wage, is this still what you would do?

Speaker 4 And I know football again is different because you're literally risking. But I feel like there's a lot of guys out there that would still say, yeah, I want to strap it up and play.

Speaker 2 It's a kid's game, man. You get to do this.
You get to play, and you get to do it for a living. And like, yes, you make good money.
Yes, you do have the chance to set your family up for a good future.

Speaker 2 But at the same time, what does it mean to you? Right. When I went out there to tote the rock, I wanted to be the best running back in the league.

Speaker 2 I wanted to prove that I was one of the best ever to carry the rock. That was my motivation.
That was why I grinded through surgeries, through sharing backfields, through ups and downs.

Speaker 2 Like, I had it in my mind. I wanted to be the best player to ever touch the football.
Now, that's high, you know, high things to think of yourself, but that's what drove me. That's what drove me.

Speaker 4 All right, let's see. I think we got one more.

Speaker 4 All right, this is Dylan from Columbus said for Urban.

Speaker 4 Truly, how involved is the head coach in the draft process? The relationship with the GM. How much weight does your voice carry in terms of who gets selected?

Speaker 2 Obviously, I was only exposed one time. It was very involved.
It depends on who the head coach is. And it depends who the GM.

Speaker 2 And the owner. It's the power structure of the organization, the hierarchy.

Speaker 2 A lot of times it's owner, GM, coaching staff. If it's the same level, then so it's dependent.
That's of the 32 teams, it's all various.

Speaker 4 Well,

Speaker 4 I'm a big basketball guy, not to make a basketball reference, but we saw the Nuggets GM and coach both get fired because they just couldn't figure it out

Speaker 2 together.

Speaker 4 So you can really see that dynamic is probably.

Speaker 2 I know Sean Payton had a say. You know, Bill Belichick has a say.
You know, Andy Reid has a say. Depends on who your head coach is, right?

Speaker 2 That's all we got from the fan question. Good questions, Green Bay.

Speaker 4 Wait a lobby for the Super Bowl to be played here. I don't think it's going to happen.

Speaker 1 I'm in favor of it. I'm in favor of it.

Speaker 1 All right, so coming into our two days here with the triple option and the throwbacks and the draft house presented by Nissan, Mark and Matt had been to Green Bay.

Speaker 1 They had played in Lambeau Field behind us. The three of us were newbies.
So for the three of us, and Jerry, I'll start with you.

Speaker 1 The takeaway of what Green Bay is and was for us over these last 48 hours.

Speaker 4 I mean, for me, I'm a big moments guy, right? That's what I look for when I'm watching a movie or a show. And what I love about sports is the moment and the story.

Speaker 4 And I thought the moment last night with Golden and that Green Bay pick, I thought that is a moment we will replay for drafts to come when we talk about what is one of the best.

Speaker 4 When we're doing a top 10 list 10 years from now, cool draft moments. That is going to be easily in the top three, if not number one.
That's an awesome draft moment.

Speaker 2 So props to the Green Bay fans great place to have a draft you know aj hawks a dear friend and uh colin coward i just did a show before and green bay has this reputation of being incredibly friendly people they come out they support their team a very unique

Speaker 2 the way they own their team yes i am blown away at the people of green bay from what we're at the restaurant we went to last night these people here yep you guys are unique man great place yeah that is not a lie right we're not glossing things over we we knew the reputation fits fits.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we knew how great the Midwest was. We knew how great Wisconsin and Green Bay was.
But to see it and experience it, hear it and feel it firsthand, different.

Speaker 1 You guys are different, and we appreciate you. You guys have been fantastic, hosts.
It's raining. It's cold.

Speaker 2 You don't care.

Speaker 1 We're here to talk football.

Speaker 2 We're in Title Town, man.

Speaker 1 We got cheese skirts.

Speaker 2 We got cold beer.

Speaker 1 And we've got other things that are fried. And we've got great NFL

Speaker 1 history here. And we've got Matt Leiner telling you wonderful stories that will haunt you for the rest of your weekend.

Speaker 2 We've got colonoscopies.

Speaker 2 We brought it. We brought it.

Speaker 2 We're so versatile. We're giving it a family.
We're going to have a second one next week. We make it hot.

Speaker 1 All right. We want to thank everybody in Green Bay.

Speaker 1 Make it hot. You guys have been an awesome, incredible crowd.
Thank you, Keith.

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