Jerry’s Life-Changing News, Fantasy Draft Season & Newfound Giants Enthusiasm
Plus, it’s that time of year again... fantasy football draft season! Matt and Jerry talk about their affinity for and frustration with fantasy football while also revealing some of the random players that have helped them win leagues over the years.
And finally, as Week 1 in the NFL draws ever closer, fans across the country are looking at their teams and thinking this could be the year we do something special! Jerry’s starting to feel some of those vibes about the Giants; is he off base or could he be on to something?
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Speaker 1 I have the news. We announced last week, we're going to break some news.
Speaker 2 Matt, I have to thank you.
Speaker 3
But I would say, Jerry, you're never going to regret it. Sometimes you got to throw in the towel.
You just got to throw in the towel.
Speaker 2 This is like three years of negotiations.
Speaker 1 I'm fully like, this is going to change the dynamics.
Speaker 2 You were too scared to allow yourself to be excited about it.
Speaker 1 If you just let me go, like,
Speaker 1 I'll be all right. I just need to freak out from time to time.
Speaker 1
All right, here we are. Throwbacks in the flesh.
Maddie, we're back in person. Good to see you, bro.
You didn't think this was going to happen.
Speaker 3 Every time it happens, I'm always like, it's happening. Can we do it more?
Speaker 1
Couple of things to unpack here. Number one, it wasn't just me coming.
My wife, who I love. My wife.
My wife, she sometimes, and I have a work trip that's up to her fun standards.
Speaker 1
She's like, oh, I'll jump on that one. Me and the kids are coming to L.A.
with you because she lived out in L.A. obviously for a bunch of years.
So me and the boys came and
Speaker 1 I have the news. We announced last week, we're going to break some news.
Speaker 3
Yes, it was big on throwbacks. There's a lot of, there was a lot of news last week in the podcast world.
None bigger than what you're about to announce here on Throwbacks, which is
Speaker 1 what is it? partly because of his advice? Uh, I got talked into baby number three for the untitled Jerry Bree project is happening due date February.
Speaker 1
I blame you a lot because you're like, ah, three, three kids isn't that much. It's easy.
The baby, I'm actually easy.
Speaker 3 I'm actually very responsible because one, I talked you off the ledge for about the last nine months.
Speaker 1 I'm not necessarily off, but yeah, sure.
Speaker 3 I've taken you back from the ledge a little bit. Um, because I live this, I'm like tracking like a year ahead of you and all this.
Speaker 3 So it's like, I had the same worries, the same scare, the same doubts, the same worries, the same, like, I'm hesitant. Like, I love our life now, all these things.
Speaker 3
And it's been the greatest thing ever. Uh, it truly is a blessing.
It's fun. It's still, everything is the same.
You just got to keep going. But I'm so happy for you guys, man.
Speaker 3 I know it was a long, tough, it's hard. It's hard as we get older in our age, you know?
Speaker 1 Yeah, 45, gonna be 46 when this kid's born. Uh, and then
Speaker 1 50, you're gonna be, well, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 You're gonna be like, almost like, you're gonna be like 60 when your kid's like a freshman in high school, bro.
Speaker 1 Yeah, think about. I'll be like, think about when, even if it's like a little girl, when that little girl grows up to go to like prom, right? She'll be like 15.
Speaker 1
And it's going to be like, hey, someone go wheel dad out. They're going to have to come back.
That's how I feel sometimes.
Speaker 1
You're still young. I'll be like, ah.
Dude, I'm three years younger. Have her back before nine.
Speaker 1 I'm not going to scare nobody.
Speaker 1 Age is just, age is a number man it's just it's it's about how you feel man it is a number but i also thought um being that my wife is here and in honor of the good news i think we have to hash something out because what's that due dates in february there's something else that happens in february we usually have a we had a big presence there last week the super bowl so which brings up a great debate of even like players in the past i know we were talking with van jefferson like famously his baby was born the confetti came down he's like i'm out
Speaker 1 Obviously, not the same circumstances, but well, like, at what point, at what point do you,
Speaker 3 at what point, if the baby's not like, at what point are you allowed to leave to go to the Super Bowl to work?
Speaker 1
Well, we're going to ask her. And look, she's pretty cool, but I figured, look, the Super Bowl is important for us.
We had a good footprint, Fanatics party last year.
Speaker 1 I think throwbacks needs to be there. This is a business now.
Speaker 3 What's more important? The Super Bowl throwbacks or leaving your newborn child and your wife like a day or two after your baby's born.
Speaker 1 See, this is where my mind goes, though. This is the family business.
Speaker 3 I think you got to do it. I think you got at the baby's before the Super Bowl, you got to go.
Speaker 1
Well, here's some fun stuff to throw out on social. And again, at Throwback Show on all the social platforms.
So
Speaker 1 guys, girls out there, if you had to be at the Super Bowl for some work event, whatever it is,
Speaker 1 how comfortable are you leaving? after your baby's born is question number one. And then number two,
Speaker 1 if you had to call in a guest host last minute like if you're gonna be live on the fanatics red carpet again or at athletes first whatever we're gonna be doing at the super bowl and my little baby is not born yet you got to get a guest host bro means you need a you need a backup a backup qb
Speaker 1 who could come in and light it up as a quarterback i don't worry about shit that hasn't happened seven months from now okay well as i'm a day-to-day week-to-week guy as a paranoid italian new yorker i think about anything that could happen six months from now now that probably won't.
Speaker 1 That's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 3 We need to calm you down. We need to get you some supplements or something to take the edge off.
Speaker 1 Have you, segueing out of that, have you started to get your fantasy football nerves yet? Like, when does liner, because I know you're nine.
Speaker 3 I've done 50 mock drafts for the past six days, yeah.
Speaker 1 How are they, anything surprising?
Speaker 3 Well, the only problem is I know my draft order on my big league already because we did a full thing out of a hat a couple weeks ago.
Speaker 1 That draft draft is in a six so you're middle 12 or 10 10.
Speaker 3 um all right i like 10 i'm in a 12-man league too or 12 team league um i'm six and this is our big this is our big league so this is the one i care about the most um so i've done every mock picking sixth and It comes out to a lot of the same type of players you're going to get.
Speaker 3 This draft is these guys are pretty legit. Everyone drafts pretty
Speaker 3 to the cuff. Like there's a couple reaches every once in a while, but everyone drafts pretty, like,
Speaker 3
pretty like on top of like best available or like kind of their strategy. So there's no like, holy shit.
Why did you like there's one or two? So like I kind of know where I'm going to go at six.
Speaker 3 I've been telling my partner, I'm like, we're going to get, we're going to get either like Jameer Gibbs, who's going four, or we're going to get CeeDee Lamb.
Speaker 3 or we're going to get like a Justin Jefferson because the first three have been like Bajon, Barkley, and Jamar Chase. And then anything after that, it's kind of like those three or four players.
Speaker 3
Like Derek, Derek Kennedy has been kind of high. So like we're going to get one of the top receivers or we'll get like a Jameer Gibbs.
If that's what we want.
Speaker 3 So like I'm kind of just playing off of basically. So I've done probably 50 of those, dude.
Speaker 3 And I'm in four other leagues too.
Speaker 1 So we don't even go there. Well, no, we're going to, I think it's time we have the fantasy conversation because.
Speaker 1 I, we talked about it last year on the show.
Speaker 1 Like I wanted to get away from it a little bit because I really, I live in a betting state and I enjoy betting more than fantasy at this point because it's just a little more control.
Speaker 1
But I can't sell you on an auction draft, right? You're just like snake draft. Like, what is it? If some people get so, I was like that for years, like, oh, auction draft.
I don't want to do that.
Speaker 1 It's so much better.
Speaker 3
I just, I don't know. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, dude.
I'm in five leagues. Like, I don't want to
Speaker 1
get the bugs. You still get the enjoyment out of it.
I love it.
Speaker 3 But you're a fantasy hater. I love, I love, I only draft in person on one.
Speaker 3 Um, all the other ones are just online, like whatever, but we have group chats on all of them.
Speaker 3 I still get like a high off my fantasy drafts. I love that shit.
Speaker 1
I'm going to tell you in a second why I'm mad that you made this big fantasy pitch. First, we're going to talk our all-time adventures driven by Nissan because it factors into the fantasy thing.
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Speaker 1
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What is it?
Speaker 1 Well, because of of your big pitch of why fantasy is still awesome and you tried to talk me off the fantasy ledge, I joined another league.
Speaker 1 I went into a new league with some writer friends, some Hollywood types, right? Good group chat.
Speaker 1 Said yes to the draft time, didn't really pay attention to when it wasn't, and it was exactly when my flight was.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1
So I joined this new league. I talked a bunch of trash and now I can't be at the draft.
You were my emergency contact. Matt, can you draft for me? And you were like, ah, no.
Speaker 3
You said no. Yeah.
Because you don't want me to draft an auction leak for you because I wouldn't know what to do.
Speaker 1 Wow.
Speaker 3 All I know is I could have said, yeah, and then butch, bosh the whole thing.
Speaker 1 All I know is I did find someone who I went through my emergency contact list of people I would want to draft fantasy for me, knowing I was going to be on a plane, not trusting the Wi-Fi.
Speaker 1
Everyone said no. My nephew had football camp.
My best friend said, no, I don't want to do that. Everyone said no.
Speaker 1
And I got connected with someone that I've never met before, a buddy of mine's colleague, and was like, he'll draft for you. This guy knows what he's doing.
We had four meetings. And you know what?
Speaker 1 I summed up fantasy too? Let me just tell you, it was all, okay, these are like the five guys I like.
Speaker 1
These are the five guys I'm okay with. And here are the five guys, please, by any means necessary, do not draft.
Please. And then that was it.
Speaker 1 I went on the flight with my kids, traveling with four kids. Isn't it three kids? Two kids is an adventure.
Speaker 3 Yes, you just went from four to three to two.
Speaker 1 Because that's, I have, I'm like the Brady Bunch now. Um,
Speaker 1 and I have to say, it was pretty enjoyable to be on a flight with good Wi-Fi. He was drafting for me, but I was
Speaker 3 on it.
Speaker 1 We were chatting every pick out, and uh, I want to unveil my team to you.
Speaker 3 Let me hear it,
Speaker 1
all right. Auction 10 team.
Ready? Okay.
Speaker 1
Jordan Love and Kyler. Oof.
Okay. Oof.
Speaker 1 Oof.
Speaker 3 That's fine.
Speaker 3 You obviously didn't spend a ton of money on your quarterback.
Speaker 1 Chase Brown.
Speaker 3 I think Chase Brown's legit.
Speaker 1
All right. We whiffed a little bit on running back two, okay? We did not get the guy that we wanted.
So running back two might be Tyrone Tracy on the Giants. Where I think we won.
Speaker 3 Who were you going after?
Speaker 1
There were some names. We were going to try to sneak Kyron Williams, but he went for a big number.
That's the thing with auction. Like some of these guys go for giant numbers.
Speaker 1
But then we went Malik Neighbors. Yeah.
And then we went Amon.
Speaker 3 two skipping
Speaker 1
machines. This is what I wanted to pitch you.
This is my real all-time adventure. I'm a firm believer that
Speaker 1
two of the offensive rookies in every draft, regardless of what round, two of them are going to kind of pop. I drafted all of them.
Not the big, I didn't draft Genti.
Speaker 1
Like I'm saying I went with the reach. Like Igbuka, am I saying that right? Ameka Abuka, are you saying it right? Yeah.
Beast. I got Tet.
Speaker 1 I got, I got.
Speaker 3 Tet was a top 10 pick, but yeah.
Speaker 1
Okay, but he could easily. Yeah, I mean, look at Marvin Harrison last year.
He's in Carolina. You know, I got golden.
I got golden.
Speaker 1
So I basically have four rookies. I know two of them have gotta pop.
Two of them have to pop.
Speaker 3 T-Mac, as you call him, not Tet, T-Mac. Is that the? He goes, yeah, nickname.
Speaker 1 He doesn't like Tet. Has he said that?
Speaker 3 I'm not sure Ted is even a nickname. I think you just gave that to him, but he go, but T-Mac, he's by the way.
Speaker 1 Other people have been calling him.
Speaker 3 He's an Orange County kid.
Speaker 1 So I didn't mean to offend him.
Speaker 3 He'll be the number one there off the get-go. So So that one has the most upside, I think, for sure.
Speaker 3 And then Abuka,
Speaker 3 I love anybody in the Bucs team just because Baker throws his shit all over the field. Mike Evans is still doing his thing, but like Godwin's out for, Godwin's hurt, I think, for a bit.
Speaker 3 But like Abuka will be number one. He might be number two, right? He's going to be number two the start of the season.
Speaker 1 I really wish that with fantasy, and I still have a soft spot for it a little bit, but. I just really miss the in-person stuff, man.
Speaker 1 And I know it's so easy to draft on your phone phone or your computer, but like to me, that's the camaraderie was like half the battle. Wasn't it?
Speaker 1 I used to watch games against the dude I was also head-to-head.
Speaker 1
Why are we still doing head-to-head? I don't get home field advantage. Why are we still doing now? I've been doing this shit for 30 years.
Why are we still doing head-to-head?
Speaker 1 I have the second most points in the league and I missed the playoffs because I lost to the highest points scored for four weeks in a row.
Speaker 3 Do you go by based on points?
Speaker 1 or no, I don't. We do head-to-head, but I'm like, wow, I have a really tough schedule this year.
Speaker 1
I don't know. I just think it's, I loved it in the beginning.
I think the head-to-head stuff is real. Oh, you just got to
Speaker 3
appreciate it for what it is, man. It's just, it's just fantasy football.
It's fun.
Speaker 3 Keeps you in tune with the game.
Speaker 1 I can't sway you into an auction league at least.
Speaker 3
No, no, it's not that I don't like it. It's just I've never done it.
So I didn't want to draft for you. But yeah, I have buddies that ask me all the time.
Speaker 3 I'm just like, man, I'm already in five leagues.
Speaker 3 Like, I can't i can't i have no time to do anything else now are you a drafter that like you'll take one guy in all five teams or do you find yourself in that awesome situation where like all right i need genti here but he's also gonna kill me here i'm not that i'm more i i am a big i am a big like wherever like the players fall to me where i'm at i kind of like best on the board best kind of yeah like obviously i always like i always target like i love getting josh allen dude like he's the number one guy but like
Speaker 3 if he if he's there at the end of a second round on a turn like I would get him late second round or like early third or like I love Lamar too I've been a big so you like having one in a top first guy no but I've also but then like we had Jaden Daniels last year no one knew but I was like I told my partner you knew well we had we had who did we have maybe Herbert who's been you know up and down better than Joe Barr but then we were like we got Jaden Daniels I think dude I think this guy we might start by like week five like he's gonna be a star and sure enough we had him and we rode him for a long time um but yeah i mean i think i'm just more of like i'll spread it out but it depends on where i pick if i pick in the same spot i mean yeah like there's there's always guys there's always two or three that like
Speaker 3 man i got like george kittle in three leagues or like like evan ingraham i love like he's a late round 10th round pick who like can still get you 80 catches um so like in all my mocks i've been doing other ones too it's like i'm kind of targeting i kind of get the same type of guys you know what i mean my boy charlie o'connell season two the bachelor bro.
Speaker 3 Yeah.
Speaker 1 He is one of the best drafters back in the day because his whole thing was he assumed he we could not draft till after Madden came out.
Speaker 1 And then he would grind Madden for five days and he'd write down all the guys without, he was like Al Davis. He drafted Jamal Charles three years in a row because he was 99 overall speed.
Speaker 1
Darren McFadden, he took all the Madden 99 overall speed dudes, running back, and that's who he drafted. By the way, he won like that.
It was like Chris Johnson, Jamal Charles. He had all the speed.
Speaker 3 Those guys were fantasy.
Speaker 1 They were, but he was taking them early when people typically like they hadn't popped yet. It wasn't the 2,000-yard season.
Speaker 3 Name a random fantasy player.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 3 In the last 10 years, not recently, like 10, 15 years that won you fantasy league.
Speaker 1 Yep.
Speaker 1
Oh, God. He's so random.
I don't even know if I can think of it.
Speaker 1 Believe it or not, it was a Giants third string running back who became the starter at the end. What was his name?
Speaker 1 It's going to take me a second. He 100% won me the league.
Speaker 3 David Johnson. Remember David Johnson?
Speaker 1 Yeah, of course I remember David.
Speaker 3 For the Cardinals, like two years of like, because that's when I started playing. I think I was like, he won me like a league outright.
Speaker 1
Do you want to know my worst? I know my, I remember my worst fantasy start of all time. I'm a big, like, I used to be anyway.
Like, you don't know about this guy.
Speaker 1
I was playing Charlie O'Connell in a championship game 10, 15 years ago, and Arian Foster hadn't popped yet. No, no, he was a no-one.
He played with him. He was a beast.
Speaker 1
I think he finally got like 10 carries in a game the week or two before. And he had like 10 for like 80 and a touchdown.
I start. He didn't play.
One carry
Speaker 1
in the fantasy Super Bowl. One carry.
And then next year, he went on to become Arian Foster, like first round pick. Freak.
You know who did work for me too?
Speaker 1
Travis Henry did some work for me, believe it or not. Travis Henry.
Travis Henry, running back.
Speaker 3 Oh, God, that's old.
Speaker 1 Dude, I've been playing this shit for a long time. So who was your worst one? Would you say? Oh, no.
Speaker 3
I'm just thinking like David Johnson. I remember my worst.
I mean, I've.
Speaker 1
Who was that dude on the Giants? He's not even on the team anymore. Wayne Gallman.
Gallman. You didn't know Wayne.
You weren't going to pull that. Never.
Speaker 3
No, I know the name, though. Never.
If you said Wayne, I would have said Gallman.
Speaker 1
He won me a fantasy league. And that's what I mean about fantasy and why it's ridiculous.
You will, if you want to win your league by week 10, you'll have to find Wayne Gallman.
Speaker 3 That's the beauty of the waiver wire. You just find the pickups.
Speaker 1 When did we lose trading, though? Meaning, like, when did it become like trading is bullshit? I want your best running back.
Speaker 1 And here's my third string running back and my second or third best receiver that you're going to try to convince me is I do all those.
Speaker 3 I also, I do all those trades. Like,
Speaker 3 are these fair trades, right? You do it in like an evaluator thing.
Speaker 3 I'm just more like, how is it going to benefit an asshole in my league? which is not the way to do it, but that's kind of what I do. So that part, the trades in my big league, we don't even trade.
Speaker 3 Like we try, but it's like, it gets vetoed all the time. And that's the only part I hate about it.
Speaker 1 I have things I would fix about fantasy. Just the same.
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Speaker 1 We talked earlier in the segment. I am no longer at a crossroads.
Speaker 3 I'm on cloud nine for you guys.
Speaker 1 We are on the road to baby number three, and my lovely wife brie is here to join us matt's more excited about this we are breaking the internet today baby in honor of taylor and travis episode we are
Speaker 3 this is way better are you kidding me look at she's glowing oh you're glowing
Speaker 1 matt i have to thank you i will be part of this i will i will
Speaker 3 pat myself on the back i did have some i did we're on the same journey josie and we we have our six month old we've been talking about this you know you guys have just
Speaker 1 it. It's never that easy.
Speaker 3 But I said, Jerry, you're never going to regret it. And you got two beautiful boys now.
Speaker 3 Your wife wants a third. I'm down this path.
Speaker 3 Sometimes you got to throw in the towel. You just got to throw in the towel.
Speaker 1
Now, I do think it's strange that our due date for baby number three is everything. Daughter's birthday.
That's pretty strange, just timing of how that happened.
Speaker 3 And here we are.
Speaker 3 You're there. Here we are.
Speaker 1 Listen, we're going to be honest because we're honest on this show.
Speaker 1 I was very scared and hesitant, not because I love babies and I love kids and I love being a dad. I felt like I was,
Speaker 1 you know, hands full.
Speaker 2 This is like three years of negotiations.
Speaker 1 You,
Speaker 3 but he finally gave you.
Speaker 2 Yeah, I never knew how hard to push it.
Speaker 1 Right. But then at some point you said, oh, god.
Speaker 2 And then I was like, it's now or never.
Speaker 3
Well, let's, let me ask you guys a question. Let's talk about negotiations since you just brought up negotiations.
What kind of negotiations were going on in this process?
Speaker 1 Yeah, Jerry, I'll let you start. Well, look,
Speaker 1 again, I was a little hesitant because, you know, my whole thing I used to say to Brie was, like, are our hands not full? Like, do we have spare time?
Speaker 1 Like, your video with Josie, which is a funny one when you released that you were having a failure.
Speaker 2 You guys win like the best. Yeah.
Speaker 1
Just go check it out on Instagram. They're like, we have life all great.
This is great. Let's go.
F shit up. Yeah.
I believe that.
Speaker 1 Like you were kind of joking, but kind of I'm fully like, this is gonna change the dynamic completely but you'd said something you think of all like the negative things first before you think of all the good things and that's where i got you like that's where i had to be well ultimately too you said something to me uh at like by year two when we started talking about this where you're like i just don't feel done i know you said i just don't feel done like having babies and i at first didn't understand what that meant.
Speaker 1 I'm like, what do you mean?
Speaker 1 We are done.
Speaker 1 And, and that, and you kind of turned, you turned our six-year-old against me a little bit. He would look at me, Jacob would go like, dad, come on, dad, one more.
Speaker 2 He would just hear us talk about it.
Speaker 1 I didn't really.
Speaker 3
I think it's a great question. And like, and in very, in all seriousness, because I remember Josie and I's negotiation was about a year and a half.
So it was a long time.
Speaker 3 It was like, and I, and, and quite honestly, and she, I was like a hard no.
Speaker 3
And I was like, and it felt selfish, but for my reasons, it wasn't selfish, but it was still like, I just like, no, we're good. We're happy.
We're in a great spot.
Speaker 3
All the, all the the positive things, right? Like we're working, all these things. And then she did say that.
She was like, and I think she broke down and she goes,
Speaker 3 you won't ever experience this or feel this, but as a woman and as a mother, I feel it internally that I'm meant to have another child.
Speaker 3 And when she, to your point, when she said that, I was like, I actually got goosebumps.
Speaker 1 I'm like, I'm like.
Speaker 3 Damn. Like, how could you say that?
Speaker 3 Like, one, in my mind, I always knew we're going to have another because I'm like, I'm not going to do, my wife will, she'll regret it and she'll hold that against me and I'll feel guilty the rest of my life.
Speaker 3
And it was that, it was that phrase and that what she said. I was like, you're right.
I won't know, but I knew how much it meant to her.
Speaker 3 And it was just a little bit of me like in our selfish world of like, hey, we get to do this stuff. We are so good.
Speaker 1 Just like you guys, you're boys, dude.
Speaker 1 We're a good team.
Speaker 3
But that was it. And Jerry had said, you kind of had said that too.
So like, what, what does that mean?
Speaker 2 Like, did you guys do this thing where whenever you backed, like, whenever she would back off, then you would kind of be like, well, maybe we should, because that's what Jerry does to to me.
Speaker 1
I would put the toe back in the water. I would not know.
I was, dude, I was out. I didn't hear about baby over three for like two weeks.
Speaker 2 I would back off, and then all of a sudden, he'd be like, I like this name, and I'm looking at him and be like, I don't know why.
Speaker 1 I don't know why I did that to you. That was kind of messed up, but I guess maybe deep down, I was, I didn't want it to go away either.
Speaker 2 You were too scared to allow yourself to be excited about it.
Speaker 2 Like, you didn't want to get there. And rightfully so, like, you never know what's going to happen.
Speaker 2 You know, like you could try, you could not get pregnant, things happen, and we were very lucky, but you like, that's just how you are in general.
Speaker 3 What is it, not to put you on the spot, but like, what does it mean, like, as a woman to do that? I genuinely, like, because it really hit me.
Speaker 3 Like, it's like, it's just, you feel it in your bones, in your body.
Speaker 1 You say you couldn't explain.
Speaker 1 How do you like it? You just can't.
Speaker 2 Yeah. Like, I'm like, it's not like I want a vacation
Speaker 2
or like a bag or something. Like, this is, this is a deeper desire.
And I think at any point, a woman has to grieve that whether she's going to have kids or not have kids.
Speaker 2 Like you grieve that part of your life being over.
Speaker 2 But I just wasn't ready to do it. I mean, I could have got myself there.
Speaker 2 If he, like, truly, truly, if I really thought it was going to like blow up our marriage or so, like, I could have got myself there. Now he's like, what?
Speaker 1 He's like, you could have could have told me that around two and a half months ago, three months ago.
Speaker 3 We had the same thing. I think she would have got to it too, but it was just like, I just couldn't, I couldn't do that.
Speaker 1 No, in the end, for me, it was also like
Speaker 1 I,
Speaker 1 after all the fear of it goes away, it's like, it is nice to have a, a big crew, right? To be like this big traveling circus kind of.
Speaker 1 And then honestly, at the end of it, like I looked at our kids and our oldest was like all about, I'm like, you know what? When I'm long gone, there will be three of them together.
Speaker 1 And I guess hopefully they all get along and they're, they're a tight-knit, you know, sibling group.
Speaker 1 And I feel like in the end, when my time comes down the road, I'll feel a little bit better about, all right, at least there's, there's three of them, four,
Speaker 1 and,
Speaker 1 you know, it's going to be.
Speaker 3
I think that was the hard part we were talking about. It's like, cause I was the same way.
I was like, you're so caught up in the now and the moment. Like, now is great, Renee.
Speaker 3 But Josie would always be like, but think about how special it'll be when our kids are older and we have grandkids and there's this big family where like. Christmas is and all of these things.
Speaker 3
And I'm like, I don't really want to think about 20 years from now. You know what I mean? But like, it does.
It's like, you have to kind of sit back and like, and again.
Speaker 2 Well, Jerry, Jerry's go-to is like, I'm going to be 95.
Speaker 3
Well, I do. I do support that.
Thank you.
Speaker 1
I'm 45 years old. When the baby's born, I will be 46.
You are going to be the old ass dad and pick.
Speaker 2 No, you were.
Speaker 1 There's women having babies at this age.
Speaker 2 Come on.
Speaker 1 No, I know. And I know I have to carry the child or birth the child, but like 45.
Speaker 2
There's pros and cons to it. You've lived a lot of life.
Like you have a lot to offer. Now, not that you wouldn't have when you were younger, but.
Speaker 1 You know what she did too, like two things that were sort of sneaky. I don't know if Josie does this.
Speaker 1 And those of you listening, I don't know if in your relationship, your wife or your husband does this.
Speaker 1 Like I would wake up at my normal time and there'd be like four or five middle of the night DMs on Instagram that she sends me forwarded that are all these couples that have like five kids.
Speaker 1
And this is a, look at our family. We just like let it go.
And all this like on the fence about having the third, let us tell you.
Speaker 1 greatest decision we ever made in our all these instagram clips but then i would talk to a few parents of three most of them were like, hey, look, the third kid just kind of fits in and it's all good.
Speaker 1 But then every now and then, there's the one that's like, yo, three
Speaker 1
is no joke. And they had like a look of terror in their eyes.
So that would always snap me back.
Speaker 3 I think that the, the,
Speaker 3 we have a six-month-old daughter and our boys, and we have an older son. Um, so we have four technically, but the three, it,
Speaker 3 it's been easy because she's very easy. You guys got, we got a chance to, you guys got a chance to meet her.
Speaker 3
She's been easy and we have always been, credit Josie, a roll, a roll with the punches, go-go. You guys do have that, but the liners have by the way, we love home time.
We love snacks. We love that.
Speaker 3 But like, we, there's never like a, let's not do it. Like, let's just do the boys are going to roll, the daughter's going to roll, and we're going to make it.
Speaker 1 You're not prisoner to the next.
Speaker 3
You're just not prisoner to that. And if you do, it's just, that's, that's what can put a strain on a relationship.
It could just put a strain on a lot of things. Yeah.
Speaker 3 So for to your point, three has been really easy for us because we just have that mindset mindset of like yeah we're not gonna let the baby's time dictate everything that we do now we're yeah like again i'm definitely more like that you'll get there babe i don't know if i can ever get there but you got to just let it go you gotta or else you're gonna stress yourself out i think it's time to like talk about something that i think we could work out here the three of us it's relevant to the podcast It's relevant to our life.
Speaker 1
It's definitely relevant to you. I'm going there now.
Do you want to preface what the meat and potatoes of this talk is about what's up in a certain date? Well, before that,
Speaker 1 well, no, before that, this is about golf.
Speaker 2 Because I sold my soul to golf to get a third baby, like that's how this really happened. Tell everybody about golf mood, but I was losing it anyways to golf.
Speaker 1 So, tell everyone about tell Matt about golf mood. I don't think you've met this version of Jerry.
Speaker 3 This is a perfect segue because, hold on, one second. I did get oh, you got a gift? I got Jerry, I got Jerry uh, new golf apparel
Speaker 1 because he did say the negotiations.
Speaker 3 Our friends, my friends are Travis Matthew.
Speaker 1 What? Hold on.
Speaker 3 They here, hold on.
Speaker 2 Matt, I thought you were on my side here.
Speaker 1 Jerry, congrats on baby number three. Here's
Speaker 1 some TM gear to keep you fresh. Oh, that's
Speaker 1 weird. This is unfair what he's doing, though.
Speaker 3 And then this really has nothing to do with the baby, but this was also a gift from us to you because this is for you.
Speaker 1 Aviator Nation.
Speaker 2 Oh,
Speaker 1 here,
Speaker 3 is a good west coast and like oh i'm gonna
Speaker 3 is that comfy for like pregnancy could you this will pro this will pro this will probably be post-pregnancy
Speaker 1 but it's put it away and uh so sweet it's also kind of for me to continue to get you guys to move out to the west coast you know just little gifts to make sure that you guys you told me you were up you were you you had to like you have to convince me you love manhattan beach and now So we're moving to baby number three and we're moving back to California.
Speaker 1 A lot of change.
Speaker 3
Here, let's put this down. Okay.
But I got you some golf gear. That's sweet.
My boys over there. But let's talk golf really quick, the negotiations of golf.
Because your husband got me into golf.
Speaker 3 And Josie's a little bit like,
Speaker 1
I go, babe. I go, babe.
It's like. He went to Scotland
Speaker 1
to fly. I will say I went to Scotland.
He went to Sydney. I did for three years.
Speaker 1 The birthplace of God. And I was like, he went.
Speaker 3
I asked Jerry. I'm like, should I go? He goes, of course you go.
I'm like, all right, I asked Josie. Josie was like, this is, she's great.
She's like, are you kidding me? You have to go.
Speaker 3 Like, you can't miss an opportunity.
Speaker 1 Jerry gets so many golfers i know he does it's at my computer so
Speaker 2 it makes my head spin like he's way when he's like when he i know when he's about to tell me about a tournament that he got how does it go how does it go so it's golf mood yeah i need to talk to you about something i'm like i make it sound important where and when are you golfing or like more importantly where
Speaker 2 because he gets invited to like the craziest places yeah but that's amazing it's amazing because i'll tag along for some of it so through this podcast, I got Matt into golf and you got me to have a third of the way.
Speaker 1 I feel like you won that trade in a big shot.
Speaker 3
She for sure won. Real quick, crazy golf.
I got invited to Patrick Mahomes' thing in Vegas.
Speaker 1 Addie Mahomes.
Speaker 3 When was that, May? The baby was like eight weeks old. Baby and Josie came.
Speaker 3
This is talk about going just... No, no, no.
Listen, it was talk about like...
Speaker 3 just and it's an easy flight for us going with the float we got a nanny there that had babysat her best friend so we had this We went out that night with a nine-week gold with the gold.
Speaker 3
Now, granted, we ended up actually coming home pretty early because we were just over it. But like, we did the, we did the very nice dinner.
We went out, had some drinks, like the bar, whatever.
Speaker 3 And then, and we left. We, the baby, I don't know, she might get mad.
Speaker 3 No, it was, but it was just going with the flow. The baby was nine weeks old.
Speaker 1 Is that really
Speaker 1 this is a little off for a golf tournament? I'm just a sports nerd for a second, though. When you quarterbacks get together, is it like a club, like the quarterback club?
Speaker 1 Like, hey, because you know what?
Speaker 1 It's pretty much like you and Mahomes. It's almost like an unspoken life.
Speaker 3 I had never even met Mahomes, and it's always just like, boom, what's up? It's like instant, there's just a respect of because you kind of have that with actors.
Speaker 1 Like, you might not know the person personally, but it's like, oh, we do the same thing, you know?
Speaker 3 There's for sure. Like, when you're in the same room, it's like you can go up to anyone and be like, oh, older, younger, for the most part.
Speaker 3 Some of the younger kids don't, obviously, as you get older, but like, all the people.
Speaker 1 Get out of here, old man.
Speaker 1 Mahomes is great.
Speaker 3 And it's like, you just hang, like, what's up? Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 Like, you know, never. Okay.
Speaker 1 This is golf negotiations.
Speaker 3 Yeah.
Speaker 3 Where are we on these? How are we feeling about the future of golf?
Speaker 1 Have I, how has my summer of golf been to this point, in your opinion? Like, have I abused our negotiation privileges?
Speaker 2 I think that's pretty mild.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 2 I would say you golfed more last summer.
Speaker 1
Well, just know. In spite of like our negotiations.
There's a storm a coming.
Speaker 2 Oh, I know. There's a storm.
Speaker 1 I know it's brewing. There's a golf storm coming.
Speaker 3 Listen, this is important because all the guys listening, they need advice because we talk about this all the time. Like, what do you tell your wife wife when you need to go golf?
Speaker 1 I know it's such a silly thing to, and I wasn't basing like, oh, should we have this third baby on can I golf right now? Cause that's the most selfish thing in the world.
Speaker 1 A little bit, a little bit of part of it. But like, I remember when our first kid was born, they like my friends when Jacob was born, I was just getting back into golf.
Speaker 1
They're like, oh, over or under. three and a half rounds of golf this summer.
I'm like, wait, I'm only going to play golf three times this summer. That will never happen.
Speaker 1 And I think I played like five, but it definitely is.
Speaker 2 And we lived in a sixth century.
Speaker 1 We lived in
Speaker 1
a different place six months a year. That's terrible.
Golf in like Brooklyn is a lot harder because you have to drive way harder to the suburbs. Yeah.
Speaker 3 I'm not a huge, like, it's a six-hour day.
Speaker 1 Well, that's it.
Speaker 2 And he'll go to courses that are like an hour and a half away. I'm like, do you have to add three hours on to your already seven-hour day?
Speaker 2 Like, where am I going for nine hours?
Speaker 1
It's not about golf mood. Golf mood.
Do you know what golf mood is?
Speaker 3 I mean, apparently it's pretty bad.
Speaker 1
No, no. No, it's amazing.
Oh, your golf mood? What is
Speaker 1
it? What is life like for you? Oh, yeah. I wake up.
I agree upon golf.
Speaker 2
Breakfast ready. The kitchen's cleaned.
Like, he is.
Speaker 1 The boys are dressed.
Speaker 2 How are you, honey? What are you doing today?
Speaker 2 Is there anything I can help you with before I leave? Although, you know what? Your golf game must be really bad right now
Speaker 1 because
Speaker 2
the golf mood has changed. The last few times you've gone golfing.
My golf game is in shambles, right? You know what? I know that because your golf mood has not been nearly what it usually is.
Speaker 1 All right. Are you ready to evoke this?
Speaker 1 This is really why we wanted to have you on here because
Speaker 1
this does relate to the show. It affects Matt.
It affects Eddie. It affects Adam,
Speaker 1
Rich, Andrew. It affects a lot of people, including you.
What's up? In arguably the biggest way. Okay.
So
Speaker 1 we have our due date, February 4th, and obviously
Speaker 1 3rd.
Speaker 2 Not that it matters, but yeah.
Speaker 1
Clearly, it does. And obviously, the big thing is you just want a happy, healthy baby.
You, everyone, like that's all that matters. So assuming that's going to happen,
Speaker 1
the Super Bowl this year is what, February 9th, I believe is the Sunday. Last year, we did our big Fanatics red carpet live show.
We'll get to that. Okay.
Speaker 1
It is. From you.
This year, and we have a new sponsor about to come on who I think is going to want to be a big part of our Super Bowl show that we're going to do.
Speaker 3 Keep going, Jerry. You got to.
Speaker 1 Spit it out.
Speaker 1 Due date, February 3rd. I technically, if we were not having a baby, I need to be in Santa Clara.
Speaker 1 Santa Clara is just outside of San Francisco. Not easy to get to.
Speaker 2 When is it? That's
Speaker 1
February. February 9th.
Oh. I need to be
Speaker 1 able to get the 7th. Which is like the night of the 7th.
Speaker 2 Oh, my gosh.
Speaker 1
So it would be fly in the 7th. So I'd be like...
Super Bowl is the 8th.
Speaker 3 So no, no, no.
Speaker 1
Fly in the 6th. Super Bowl Sunday's the 8th.
So fly in the 6th. Show the 7th.
Fly right home.
Speaker 2 Yeah.
Speaker 1
Assuming you are on time, what to you is the cutoff of like, obviously, if you don't have the baby by like February 3rd or 4th. I mean, if I have the baby.
How much? Yeah.
Speaker 1
Like, what's the timeline we're thinking here? Because this happens with players all the time. Sure.
Just let her know. I'm nervous.
I know you're nervous.
Speaker 3 You're talking about me. What do you think?
Speaker 1 I talk a lot when I get nervous, Eddie.
Speaker 2 I mean, I would like to make it work for you.
Speaker 1 But also knowing that this is a big moment for our family. And
Speaker 2 I don't want to push a baby out and then you're on a plane.
Speaker 1
I agree. I agree.
So, like,
Speaker 2 but
Speaker 2 if you go in, do your stuff, get out,
Speaker 2 we can probably make it happen, but you do know some women go later.
Speaker 1 Later. Well, we're going to be able to do that.
Speaker 2 But I actually, this is on your side. I've gone early with both the boys.
Speaker 3 He's just beating around the bush way too much. If the baby was born, there we go.
Speaker 2 Yeah.
Speaker 2
You know what? It would be so much better if he approached things this way. Like he talks too much.
He does. He does this with our kids, like me.
Like, I'm like, just get to it.
Speaker 3 If the baby was born, say,
Speaker 3 Friday morning, maybe 3 a.m.
Speaker 1 Okay.
Speaker 3
And he, he has, we have big shows Saturday. So he has to be on a flight, maybe a red eye Friday night.
So that's a day.
Speaker 1
Is that? He does. He just puts you on the spot.
He likes to put people on the spot.
Speaker 3
But to me, before you came, I I was like, that's obviously the very last you could even get out. Because if it's after, you just can't go.
But the baby's here. All your family's there.
Speaker 3 He wants to be here.
Speaker 1 If all my family is there and I feel comfortable with how
Speaker 2 I'm honestly more worried about like the boys being taken care of than myself and the baby.
Speaker 3 Well, you're, but yeah, but yeah, but you got
Speaker 3 family, you can make it happen. We got six months.
Speaker 1 He's nervous because we will have to get a guest host in there.
Speaker 3
By the way, I'm not nervous because I know it's all going to work out. Right.
It's all going to work out.
Speaker 2 But guest host could be fun. He won't.
Speaker 1 I just couldn't. Well, we're going to start auditioning guest hosts.
Speaker 3
Friday morning, dude. I got you.
I got you that extra.
Speaker 1 I don't think Friday morning. I don't think that's.
Speaker 3 Friday would be tough.
Speaker 1 I might have.
Speaker 2 I think you'll make it.
Speaker 1 I think you'll make it.
Speaker 2 Yeah. I'm confident that you'll make it.
Speaker 1 I think so, too.
Speaker 3
Yeah. By the way, amazing.
It's all going to work out.
Speaker 2 It'll work out. And if it doesn't,
Speaker 1 I wanted to take this moment to just say publicly:
Speaker 1 Does Jerry make make the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1 I was going to go a different route.
Speaker 1 Guys, guys,
Speaker 3 what should we do?
Speaker 3 Should he go? What's the cutoff? We got to ask the.
Speaker 1
I think that Friday is crazy. That's my opinion.
I'm just saying, I think that's wild. I don't think I'd want to go at that point, obviously.
And I think that's a little. That's true.
Speaker 3 He said that before. He's like, I don't know.
Speaker 1
My opinion. I think that's like.
All right, I get how important this is and work stuff is important. It is just a matter of time.
Speaker 1 We have a great show going here, a great thing going, but I feel like that's like, you know, you'll be tired. This happens with athletes.
Speaker 1 if i have the baby overnight you're gonna be a little tired what if i was playing in the super bowl and you hadn't had the baby yet you would just be like go play in the super bowl right yeah i mean this no like no offense baby it's our third baby a pretty comfortable birth age she would let me play in the super bowl you play so if you were still active playing quarterback and yeah having like there's your baby your baby girl now and It was Saturday before the Super Bowl and your wife did not go into labor yet and you're just waiting.
Speaker 1 You're going to the game.
Speaker 2 I mean, has that happened?
Speaker 1 Like, are there any like cool stories that that's happening? I feel like I've heard that.
Speaker 3 Regular season games or whatever.
Speaker 1 Guys have like finished games and literally gone like right to the game.
Speaker 2 They ran to the hospital.
Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, sometimes they're on the road, so they're not where their wife is.
Speaker 3 I played with a teammate who,
Speaker 3 his wife was giving birth during the game in Arizona, and he just went straight to the hospital, right? So he missed it, but he was there.
Speaker 3 Super Bowl is like.
Speaker 1 Well, I did want to publicly take this opportunity to say i was terrified i was scared i was unsure um a lot of positivity from you positivity from you and we made the decision as a family and i have to say i am very excited and i'm happy that you know i know it's going to be hard and i if you give me the room to do my freak out thing where like
Speaker 1 if you just let me go like i'll be all right i'll be all right i just need to freak out from time to time yeah look look i'm glad you're coming to terms with it i have no
Speaker 1 we are probably gonna have another third crazy boy like just know this is her hedging and trying to put out into the girl vibes out into the you right and he's got three too so uh like
Speaker 1 i got i got 50 even wearing a pink necklace thing we got i got girl vibes all over 50 50 shots so i publicly will say I was on the fence, but I am so happy now and I'm so ready to go.
Speaker 1 And if it is a girl, I am just going to enter training because I feel like I need to be more physically threatening to all the idiots that are out there. So I might go on steroids, maybe.
Speaker 1 Would you care if I went on? Oh, HDH and steroids.
Speaker 1 Just go for it.
Speaker 2 Another boy, we'll just go for another one. We'll be that favorite.
Speaker 1 Well, I'm saying if it's a girl,
Speaker 1
it's a girl. I want to be like jacked up.
So when they see me, because Matt, you know, he got a little easy. He's like 6'5.
I feel like at my size, I just need to jack up.
Speaker 1 So if anyone sees me, they probably think I do jiu-jitsu or I'm like a UFC fighter.
Speaker 1 Get the cauliflower ears.
Speaker 3
In my marriage, I'm the non-confrontational one. And my wife would be like that.
JLC would be right up there.
Speaker 3 She's like, can you, I'm like, if I had to, she's like, would you even, I'm like, of course I would do something.
Speaker 3 But like, I don't like any, anything fighting. Like, no, like, hey, none of that.
Speaker 1 I feel like your little girl is going to be the most well-protected little girl in the South. She's got three older brothers of various ages.
Speaker 1
By the time she's like eight, she'll have a 26-year-old brother. She'll have like a 12-year-old brother and a 10-year-old brother.
It's just, I dare you to talk trash to your little girl.
Speaker 1
It's over for you. It's around.
So, congratulations. Honey, I love you.
Speaker 3 So excited for you guys.
Speaker 1
We reunited on the pod. It's been a while since we've done a pod together.
So
Speaker 1 bad for business for life if you don't remember.
Speaker 2 When was that, 2012?
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 1
Well, you look beautiful. Thank you.
And we're going to take a quick break.
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Speaker 1 Buddy, I know we briefly touched upon it last week that preseason doesn't mean anything. I mean, stuff for the players and the reps and all that.
Speaker 1 Like, for sure, you can't really tell anything by a season. And I don't want to bog you down.
Speaker 1 with giant stuff but i feel like it's gonna bog me down well this might be as good as it gets this year for them right they are 2-0 in the in preseason and they have looked freaking phenomenal and Jackson Dart looks phenomenal I think what it I think what it is is you got you got Russell Wilson who's throws an 80-yard
Speaker 3 moon ball out you have you have you're gonna have good quarterback play which unfortunately you haven't had in the last however since Eli and yeah and in the last few years that Eli don't even really count yeah so like you just there's gonna be a consistency of that position.
Speaker 3
And then you have the future. And the future is the kids a stud.
And with the right coaching,
Speaker 3 all things point to them
Speaker 3 going this way instead of kind of just like, what are we doing?
Speaker 1
So does this matter, though, as a Giants fan, right? Again, like I'm realistic. And I know.
First of all, they're in a horrendous division to be good in. Like the Eagles are great.
Speaker 1 Commanders are now great. I think the Cowboys are going to
Speaker 1
be better Daks there. So they haven't beat the Cowboys in like 12 years.
Tough league.
Speaker 1
And I just, but it's been so depressing. And the offense, there's never been big plays.
There's not players to get excited about. And now there finally is.
Speaker 1 Can you ride off the vibes even of the preseason? Like skill may ultimately come back around. They may win five or six games, but
Speaker 1 I feel like these vibes could propel you at least to a good sense.
Speaker 3 I think it's because you have a more talented team, I mean, you got to remember in the NFL,
Speaker 3 there's so much parity, man. Every team is really good, right? Even like your worst team is still competitive in damn near every game.
Speaker 3 Maybe
Speaker 3 you lose by a couple touchdowns, which in the NFL is a blowout kind of. But like,
Speaker 3
everyone is paid. Everyone's professional.
Everyone's very good. So
Speaker 3 just because on paper you're more talented or like Philly, I mean, Philly's a very good team doesn't necessarily mean or equate to wins.
Speaker 3 So something to your point, if you have, you have improvement in the most important positions,
Speaker 3 you have great leadership in the locker room, or you have guys. And again, we're speculating, who knows?
Speaker 3 And then you have a young star in Jackson Dart that everyone's just fired up about. There's just there's a pulse in the locker room and in the building that's probably different from the past.
Speaker 3
And what you're saying is, does that carry you? Yeah. It sure does carry you.
It's like in anything, it's like it's momentum. It's
Speaker 3 energy.
Speaker 3 energy it gets guys going a little bit more they want to come to work then all of a sudden you start the season i mean look the giants could beat the commanders anytime the giants could be the cowboys like like it's so it's they're it's they're it's like this man like when you're you just go out there and play good football so like and then all of a sudden you start winning some of those games then then you start to really believe so like yeah absolutely now it is preseason You can't put a ton of stock into it.
Speaker 3 I think for the Giants, you're excited that you have a star in the future.
Speaker 3 and it looks fun you have a star at wide receiver from last year malik neighbors who i think i hasn't even played really his preseason rider he's been hurt a little bit but um he's a star russ russ is solid like throws a great deep but we haven't had a deep ball since yeah you're just like vintage elijah last time imagine like you scoring seven to ten points more a game 14 points more a game probably is what good quarterback play leads to dude that's nine and eight to 11 and five or like you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 Here's, here's something else that I don't know, again, because it's all professional athletes.
Speaker 1 But again, bringing it back to the acting world, I've been a part of some cast, whether it's entourage or even like indie stuff, where the vibes are high. Everybody wants to be there.
Speaker 1
Everyone kind of likes each other. Seems like the Giants do.
But then you start also here, because like, look, if I'm not in the scene, I don't really know what went on.
Speaker 1
But then you'll show up to work the next day and be like, oh, dude, Badge did this scene. You actually had the whole crew crying.
That's how good, that's how good this scene was.
Speaker 1
And then you start to go, all right, well, shit. Yeah.
I better, my scene's coming up. I better kill it.
Speaker 1 Like, you, you start riding off, not competitive, like, I want to be better than you, but I, whoa, badge just did that.
Speaker 1
I better match it with a, I better just try just as hard because that word starts to get around. And I feel like that's a little bit what's happening.
Like, guys are starting to play good.
Speaker 1 And I feel like other guys, maybe look at that,
Speaker 1 overthinking it.
Speaker 3
Why are you laughing at me? Because you're just a desperate New York Giants fan. You want desperately so bad for your team to be good again.
Look. By the way, good start preseason,
Speaker 3 good things to build around.
Speaker 3
Let's just see. You take it week to week, bro.
That's what you do in football.
Speaker 1 Let's unwind this for one more second. Because now that we could finally say it,
Speaker 1 at least in New York, we no longer ever. have to discuss Daniel Jones again unless he balls out in Indy and then we can see I fought hard for Daniel Jones on throwbacks all year I fought hard for him.
Speaker 1 I hung around with him, but
Speaker 3 Dable.
Speaker 3 He's about to go start for the Colts.
Speaker 1
I know. That's what I'm saying.
That's probably balling. He's going to light it up.
You know, he's going to light it up. You can see that headline.
Speaker 1 Daniel Jones stuns as the Giants realize he was good. But here,
Speaker 1 Dable is kind of on the hot seat. Like, not real, but, you know, two bad years in a row.
Speaker 1 Does this mean that we really undervalued that playoff season when Daniel Jones won a playoff game and and out-dueled Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1
Does that mean Dable is maybe way better as a coach than, because right now they like almost are trying to get him out. Like Dable's the problem.
Giants have been bad for this is it.
Speaker 1 If he doesn't win this year, he's out.
Speaker 3 By the way, he just bought himself more time by getting Jackson Dart.
Speaker 1 Right, because then he gets to fully, he basically gets Jackson Dart's career.
Speaker 3
Yeah, if Jackson Dart plays this year, you can like have some growing pains. But like, if he looks great, competitive, we're on to something.
Like, let's keep him together.
Speaker 1 I implore you, go look at the box score of that Giants Vikings playoff game three years ago on the road. Daniel Jones and the offense looked fantastic.
Speaker 1 And now you cut to years later, you wonder, how the hell did he do that? Because it was, it's the same team. Last year was the same team.
Speaker 1 Isaiah Hodgins had 130 yards and two touchdowns. Bro, it's fucking, it's deep.
Speaker 3 Come on, bro.
Speaker 1 Do you know who, you know, who
Speaker 1
got me a little pumped up is your son, Cole. Yeah.
Because I didn't know he knew
Speaker 1
Jackson great. We know him.
So I was doing my Giants hype thing, and Cole's kind of being real coy. He's like, yeah, no, Jackson looks good.
I'm like, oh, you're calling him Jackson.
Speaker 1
Like, you know him. He's like, yeah.
And then he's like, no, no, the dudes, he, you know what Cole said?
Speaker 1
He said, like, he wants to be a great coyote. I'll tell you something.
And that fired me all up.
Speaker 3 I'll tell you about something about Jackson.
Speaker 3 You know, you, you kind of like.
Speaker 3 There's a trait, like the it factor. You hear that, but there's a, there's a certain aura or like Joe Burrow has it, right? There's a, there's a little bit of a swag.
Speaker 3 You see in all these sports, Baker Mayfield has it.
Speaker 1 He has it.
Speaker 1 Cleveland.
Speaker 3 Well, Cleveland botched that. And now he's looking at him like he's,
Speaker 3 he's a great like playoff quarterback, winning games, and just love the dude.
Speaker 3 Jackson Dart, now, I don't want to make him the next Brady, but like he has a aura and an energy about him where that whole team is like, oh, hell yeah, this kid's the real deal.
Speaker 3
Like he just, he has that. He always has.
He had it all missed. By the way, he had it at USC.
You probably don't remember. He was at USC.
Speaker 1 That's what I was saying. And he wanted to say, but Lincoln brought him
Speaker 3 brought Caleb Williams in. And
Speaker 3 they basically
Speaker 1 takes Jackson to the dark.
Speaker 3
No, they just said, Caleb's coming. And so he kind of forced him into the dark.
So he was picking between,
Speaker 3
I think it was Ole Miss or like in Oklahoma or something like that. And I remember we had a conversation because Lane is the best.
Lane's one of the best getting NFL guys ready. College system.
Speaker 3
You're going to play in the SEC. You dominate there.
You're going to be in the NFL. You're there.
Speaker 1 You're standing there. And
Speaker 3 I mean, we didn't have a say.
Speaker 3
That's what he did. He just went out and balled for three years.
We'll miss.
Speaker 3
Kid can run. He's tough.
He's durable. He's got a hose.
Speaker 3
He fits into everybody. Like, he's a real deal, dude.
Now you got to go perform.
Speaker 1
Wow. Name of the game.
I also feel like, though,
Speaker 1 were you ever like the vet with the really, really young dude? You know, I know you were the young dude.
Speaker 3 I was still pretty relatively young.
Speaker 1 I was like 31 when I was. But I was saying like the position that Russ is in and even Jameis to a degree where like both talented.
Speaker 3
Russ clearly has Kurt was there with me when I got drafted. Right.
And Eli.
Speaker 1 Like, how do you think you, did you ever stop and think like how you would have been with like, like Russ knows I'm going to be here. Hey, if we get hot and go on a run, I'll be around.
Speaker 1 But if not, this kid's probably coming in around week eight or nine, maybe 10, depending on how we're looking.
Speaker 3
At that point, and Russ in particular, because of his last couple years, like he, I mean, Justin Fields started last year. I know he had, he was dealing with injuries.
anything.
Speaker 3 I think Russ knows at this point in his career, it's like there's probably a short leash with my play, and especially when you draft a first-round draft pick. But I mean, he's also 37.
Speaker 3
Like, I mean, I think he just goes out there, does the job. He'll play all year.
The best thing Jack's going to do is just sit this year and learn.
Speaker 3 Like maybe play some, maybe get some meaningful snaps here and there, but like sit and learn. Because you have two guys, by the way, if they keep three, but they keep Jameis.
Speaker 3
They got two dudes who have play a lot of football in the NFL. Really, like Jameis would be a great guy guy to learn from as well.
You know, so.
Speaker 1 Is Malik Neighbors the number two receiver in fantasy football if Jameis Winston starts taking snaps? Because look what he did with Jerry Judy last. Jerry Judy had like 400 yards and two games.
Speaker 3 He did a lot of interceptions, though, two seconds.
Speaker 1 Right, but I feel like Neighbors might have a few like 12 catches for two ten.
Speaker 3
Neighbors going to have a big year with Roe. I mean, look what he had last year.
He had over 100 catches last year with Subpar.
Speaker 1
I'm sorry. I'm buying the vibes.
I'm buying the aura.
Speaker 1 We should get out of here now, huh?
Speaker 3 I've been talking giants for 15 minutes.
Speaker 1
I'm not going to crush you with that, but I had to get you a little bit while I had the time. Well, good to be in person.
Yeah, dude. And we'll be back next week.
Congrats again. It's his fault.
Speaker 1 He talked me into it. Big 03.