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It's Mike McDaniel, and here's why.

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You think there's some screws loose up there?

I feel like he does like some Jim Carrey, crazy things that you're kind of like, whoa, I am that this guy's actually certifiably insane.

Welcome to another episode of Throwbacks, two weeks off.

We had two bye weeks, back-to-back bye weeks, bro.

I got to be honest with you, bro.

I usually love a good bye week.

Two weeks is too long from not seeing your face.

I just feel like we have so much to talk about.

And so much happens in two weeks.

It's almost like you forget, oh, we're actually going to do like 40 podcast episodes in a row now that was that really was our last two weeks off until because we're entering college football nfl we're going to go like 40 weeks straight isn't that crazy i was talking to someone the other day and we're talking about the pod and like you know how it works in the episodes and i'm like yeah i think we've done like 38 episodes or 39 episodes they're like what i'm like yeah dude this this week to week baby it's it's by the way but two weeks is a long time what's a what's an nfl bye week like, though?

Like when you're when you're starting, like when you're the guy, you're starting quarterback, right?

Like,

is it the same feeling?

Like, you, are you just so happy to have some off time and then you get excited to come back or is there still like a malaise in coming back?

It just depends almost.

Yeah, no, it's a good question.

I think it depends.

Well, first of all, when we get, and I, I, I can guarantee you, I speak for everybody that's still playing.

When you get that schedule release, you immediately say, when's our buy?

We, we immediately look.

Is that the first question?

Oh, it's no, it's the first question is like, we just, I just, if I get on my phone, I'm like, all right, where's our bye week?

Oh, okay, it's week nine.

Where's the Thursday night football game?

Okay, that means you, because typically when you have a Thursday night game, you can kind of, you get Friday, Saturday, Sunday off.

Sometimes it's like a weekend off.

Exactly, which is, which is still like a buy.

So it's nice to, um, it's nice to know where that is.

So like, as far as the feeling of it, it's freaking beautiful, dude.

It is like, are you allowed to leave town?

Are you allowed to travel?

It just depends.

It just depends.

Like every organization's different.

Like you could have, you could have a light walkthrough on a Friday and hey, we'll see you Monday morning.

So you're gone.

So you can go.

You can, yeah, you can.

Now, like, I think, didn't Romo do that one year where he was.

Well, that's what I was going to say.

I was dating Jeff.

Remember that.

But I think the big deal with that was they were the one seed.

So it was a first round buy.

It wasn't like

season buy.

I would say

for a playoff game.

Yeah.

I would say most

are not really going anywhere.

You're just laying low at the house, you're spending time with the kids.

Again, you're relaxing and you're just kind of like resetting.

Now, if you're

three and six, like the bye week's not fun, like you're just like, oh man, this sucks.

But if you're six and three or eight and two or whatever it is, like it's just nice.

You know, it's just a reset.

It's perfect.

But yeah, you look at that.

The bye week comes.

The bye week is glorious, dude.

Well, now there's got to be so many, like you mentioned, you would the first thing you would look for when you were playing was bye week stuff.

Now there's so many things, I guess, as a player for the sketch.

Like, are we going to Germany or London?

Which I, which I now there's Christmas Day, Thanksgiving Day, Black Friday.

Like, are we playing on a holiday?

Because there's so many more holiday-based games.

Yeah, there's a lot that goes into the schedule release.

You kind of look at the Monday night game.

You look at when you can get when you have an off time.

You look at the opponents you're playing and where and when and all that.

Yeah.

And then, and then you, and then you just all right.

Before we dive into catching up, real quick, since we're on a great topic, too, do you know what I all

gamblers like myself would always overread this thing in football?

And I know it's probably meaningless.

There's no rhyme or reason, but the team from the West Coast, like you, when you were with the Cardinals, traveling east.

And it was always like, oh, they take off an extra point because, you know,

is that anything?

Is it real?

I mean, I'm sure it's not easy, but could you actually like take a point off on a point spread?

Cause you have like the Chargers traveling east or whatever.

Because if they're playing a garbage team, that can't matter.

Did it ever affect you?

You play no West Coast team.

It's there's two areas that

I do think there can be that you can be affected.

I do.

I believe that.

But the other one is the altitude, right?

Like, so going to Denver, that was a real thing.

That's a real thing.

That was a real thing.

We would go, we would technically, and that time difference when I was West Coast, because Arizona, I mean, Arizona's mountain time, or when I was in Oakland, right?

We went to Denver.

I believe we went on Thursday because that is no joke up there, dude.

You have to acclimate to the LL.

You have to get an extra day in.

Now, again, it's all just, there's theories and scientific stuff, and some teams may just go the day before.

Some might go two.

But like, I think when you're looking at betting and that, there is some validity to, oh, the Chargers are going all the way up to New York.

Phil Rivers killed me.

He killed every East Coast team he played.

Oh, I always bet against him, and he killed me going.

Again, it's just the team as well.

Like, they're all professionals.

But yeah, I mean, there's some, there's a little bit of truth there, but it also depends on who you're playing to.

Like, if you're playing, like, if you're going from Chargers up to Buffalo, like, yeah, Buffalo is a pretty good, although the Chargers are good too.

Buffalo is a pretty good team.

Like, you know, you're probably going to take Buffalo.

One, one day we got to just do a solid 10 minutes on.

plane stories, like team playing stories.

I love the team playing.

You know how much I am so into all that minutiae of,

you know, what you pack, who sits where, what do you do on the plane?

I I don't know.

I'm into that.

I know it might be boring for you, but we're going to have to do 10 minutes on that.

I'm already thinking of

who we could have on.

I mean, it's who's snoring.

I know it's not the 86 mess.

Well, I will say this.

We had

my, and this is just me, my Houston years.

I was there for two years.

Our team planes were the shit, dude.

We had a blast, man.

And I know a lot of other teams do too.

And again, it is based solely on organization.

On the people.

On the people.

Like they're like, hey, treat us like men, treat us like pros.

Go do your thing.

Just don't be idiots, you know, like, especially after a loss.

Like, you know, I don't want to hear the plain rowdy in the back when we just got our ass kicked.

Right.

That doesn't mean you can't have fun

and whatever.

Like, it is what it is.

Like, we're, we're men.

Like, you're not going to win every game.

So, Houston, dude, I'll come.

We, we, the card games we had.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I told you.

I would love that.

I would love that.

That'd be my favorite part of being a professional athlete.

I think is the faults.

I would love it.

The gambling that we did and the car and the shit talking.

And

it was, it's the best camaraderie, man.

Like the locker room and the flights, it's what I miss, honestly, the most.

I don't think it's talked about enough.

I would love to know, like, I would love to talk to players for like a, do almost like a documentary on it.

Give me like the top five team playing scenarios.

Cause you always see that.

We know who we need to have on who would be great is my boy Dave Anderson.

So Dave Anderson was

like Colorado State's all-time leading receiver.

Yeah, receiver, yeah.

With the Texans, he's with that Owen Daniels.

Yeah, yeah.

Those are the two.

I love those guys.

So it was like DA, Kevin Walter, Andre Johnson, Owen Daniels in his prime, Arian Foster.

Like we were loaded, dude.

We had great teams.

D.A.

was a great, was a big slot receiver, played for Houston for like five or six years.

Liz, Liz near me.

I see him all the time.

He, he was like,

I think.

Was he?

Yeah, he was my seat partner, or we were right there.

So we all were in the back of the plane, and he was in the middle of some of those freaking gambling stories dude and we almost made his ass let's get him on we'll get him on for dude we'll just we'll just talk we'll talk plane stories it is so much fun well speaking of flights and time zones you went across the pond

and you went to scotland by the way i had a look on the map i had a look on the map and i was like god damn i am far away from i'm far from mass

i'm far from my four kids and my wife i i made the probably a dumb comment i was i was golfing that tuesday and i'll i'll recap it with you now but i was golfing tuesday and I'm like, we're right on the ocean.

And I'm like, I'm like, guys, I was talking to the catty.

I'm like, this is probably a dumb question, but is that, is the water cold here or, or like, is it warmer?

And the guy laughed at me guys.

He, I don't, he said it in his Scottish accent.

He's like, he's like, he's like, dude, it's the North Sea, man.

Antarctica is like literally right there.

He's like, that shit is freezing.

And I was like, just go put your feet in.

Go put your feet in.

Oh, my God.

Where are we on the globe?

Dude, full recap.

So freaking sick, dude.

Left Sunday night, got there Monday.

Shout out to the Travis Matthew crew.

Like, they're awesome.

We had a fun dinner Monday night.

I actually like caught up on sleep Monday night.

I felt pretty good.

Tuesday, golfed

at the Castle Course, which is hard, not my favorite, beautiful, but impossible.

I mean, I picked up like 15 balls.

Just so hard.

Because the rough scene, the rough is like two feet of grass.

Like, it's just that it's beautiful and it's hilly and it's all these things, but it was beautiful.

Wednesday was cool as shit, man, because I golf with Reggie.

Yes.

I golf with Austin Reeves and I golf with his boy, best friend, like manager Trent, this kid named Trent, who's awesome.

So overall,

I say this to now because I'm entrenched in the golf world.

It is a bucket list golf item.

The golf culture, the golf history, the pictures on the walls at the ball.

I mean, it's like, it's pretty, it's pretty cool.

Let me ask you this because

every time I'm, you know, we, we did the big entourage reunion episode.

That episode did, you know, big numbers for us.

Every time I'm with those guys, like I even, God, what did I put a, oh, like we talked last time about, you know, I put up, oh, it's been 21 years since Entourage photo got millions of views.

So you posted an awesome photo at Reggie all decked out.

That's kind of your version.

Like, I imagine when you two, like when people see the four entourage guys together, they're like, holy shit, they're all together, right?

I always say, like, not that, you know, we're not as worthy individually, but when we're together, it's just like a big thing.

Do you have a similar thing with Reggie where it's like, when you two are together, people must be like, holy fuck, that's liner.

You know what?

It's interesting.

It's right there.

Yeah, it's interesting because we worked at, we worked at Fox together for like three years.

So we were together a lot.

But I think, and we're not anymore.

And I think just as you get older and it was such a like, like, again, it's a perfect example.

You guys were an iconic.

group, right?

Everywhere you go, you're known for turtle, but like when you're together, it's like, holy hell, the guy, like, they're back.

This is amazing yeah

it just brings you back right you're like the memories right and so as a sports as as athletes you know like and honestly i didn't even think about that when i posted that and that first picture is just a dope picture of me and reg hanging out like right outside the course like before dinner one night and then you start to read the comments and you're like like you know the most iconic duo in college football you just start you know thinking you're like damn dude like 20 years ago, like it's crazy.

You know, you always, like, he and I talk about it too.

Like, sometimes we're like, man, it's, it's wild.

Like 20 years ago we were we were doing this right we were a part of a dynasty we were you know whatever so um it's always when i see reg

it's always

it's just always easy and fun because of that it's like no time has passed

you know we don't even go we don't even talk that much football we were talking golf it's just like you know we always say like that's family that's my brother man forever um and uh even if we don't see each other that often or he's doing his thing i'm doing my thing it's always it's always fun to get together and just

feel like I saw something too.

I didn't text you about it.

You commented on some random social post where they did like,

these would have been the top 10 NIL people, right?

Oh, I'm not an 10 people.

And Leonard's like, shrug, like, yeah, well, I saw that.

I was getting someone, bro.

I don't even know if, I don't know.

It was online.

That was nuts.

You weren't on that list.

That's not a real list.

They are now discredited.

Whoever posted that.

They're not like to quote.

I literally said you're not a real person.

did that with your stroke and that thing.

Yeah, I got so many.

I'm like, I'm like, listen, dude.

Like, come on.

Come on, bro.

I want to chew my own horn.

With all, no, with, no, not even, with all due respect, I'm making millions in college.

If I'm fucking back, dude.

Are you kidding me?

I thought the same thing.

By the way, that whole list, a lot of those guys are making, but I looked at like eight and nine.

I'm like, I'm definitely making more money than like Jameis Winston, who I love.

Or like, I don't even know if he was on the list, but like Manzel is making bank.

I think you're making bank.

Sam Newton, too.

Tebo's making bank.

Cam is making bank for one.

Yeah, but like, but you're not not making bank.

Like, you guys are up there.

Maybe you're separated by a million or two, but it doesn't matter.

You're making millions.

You're on that list, bro.

You're on that list.

All good, dude.

What a

lot going on, too.

I've had a lot going on.

Well, I just had my family from New York visiting.

I'm actually going to save what I wanted to talk about with my 16-year-old nephew visiting.

We're going to do, we're going to, we're going to talk about it in our Nitza spot coming up in a second because I think it it is a crossroad for him i think my nephew's at a serious crossroad and we're gonna have to talk 16 damn that's early yeah but it's not it's not a life cross he's at a sports crossroad and we're gonna have to talk about it um

so no everything is over here been good like i'm starting to get a little anxious because for me football now has started like my nephew and i watched all the preseason games which i don't usually watch preseason but i wanted to i wanted to look at shador a little i wanted to see my guy jackson dart cam ward and then hard knocks started i I kind of fell out.

I'm going to say it now.

Hard Knocks is back.

Like for me, it fell out over COVID when they were doing the Chargers all on Zoom.

And I never quite got back into it.

Bills, Josh Allen, Hard Knocks.

I'm back in.

Loving it.

That's good.

How?

Season has started for me now.

How hard is it to hate Josh Allen?

You can't.

You can't.

And you're like one day maybe we're not really, you're not really like a Bills hater, right?

You're not in the same division and all that, but like you're a giant.

Not at all.

I would be happy to be

a sitting there, fan.

I know.

I know Josh.

He's just the ultimate dude.

Like, he's such a great dude.

And it's like, when you watch, you're just like, man, like, it's like Lamar.

It's like, I don't know if there's one person that can say, like, I hate Josh Allen.

Like, you just can't.

And if you do, you're just a hater.

Like, there's not one person that can say, like, man, I just don't like Lamar Jackson.

Like, no, like, there's no reason to not like him.

You can just be an absolute hater and just.

Well, the one thing that bursts off the screen on episode one of Hard Knocks is the team kind of feels that way too.

You know, they got Josh Palmer now, wide receiver, and some other.

And they're easy to root for the Bills, man.

But they're now also doing like, man, I get, you know, I get 10 reps with Josh Allen throwing me the ball.

Like, I got to make these count.

One, I forget one like tight end was like, he, Josh Allen sweated on this towel.

I'm just going to keep it.

Like, there's that.

Josh Allen is an absolute superstar.

Yeah.

He's the quietest superstar

married to Haley Steinfeld and the quietest superstar, most normal dude that you could imagine.

Loves golf, hangs like just a guy's guy.

So it started for me, the anxiety that I started to get now.

And I'm curious for you now because you now have three little ones to go along with Cole.

I know I just have the two.

And dads, moms, parents out there.

I'm not going to just, you know, make this a dad thing, but the football watching as you have kids certainly gets more challenging, right?

How do you balance the weekend with that?

Last year, I made a great deal with Bree where she would take the boys out of the house.

I had to watch football for throwbacks, much like I'll have to do this year, season two.

You got a built-in excuse, bro.

And my thing was like, all right, well, while I'm watching, I'll like food prep.

You know, that was my thing.

I'll chop up some veggies.

I'll get the chicken ready.

I'll just like, I'll do, because then the next thing is.

You'll do something so that you don't, she doesn't say, get off your lazy ass, off the couch.

She wants more because I didn't really hold up my end.

So we're early negotiations.

Well, your first problem is that you're going to cut up veggies.

Like, come on, dude, you're not going to cut up veggies.

I did it for like the first three weeks of the season, and then it was over.

That's a terrible problem.

So, but what's it like for you now?

Because this is now your first season because your daughter was born right at the Super Bowl.

This is now your first season as a father of three young ones.

It's harder Sunday, like in the lineup.

It's harder for me, man, because I travel Thursday to Saturday night, right?

So, I miss

the weekend pretty much.

So, um, I miss Friday, I miss Kohl's football games on Friday nights, which kill me.

I miss Saturday morning soccer, baseball.

Some things are on Sunday, but like, I think baseball's on Saturday.

Everything happens on Saturday.

Yeah, like here, here in the fall, Sundays are football sometimes.

Like they're Saturday.

So like you get that, but I pretty much miss everything of my kids.

And that's just how it's been.

Josie's, it is what it is.

Like we're, we're, it's okay.

It is what it is.

But when I get home Saturday night, I get home and then Sunday morning, I'll wake up with the kids and like but then to your point dude i got a decision to make because it starts at 10 a.m over here nf sunday you know like i'm not going to be glued to the tv but make no mistake i'm very well aware of what's going on so yeah my whole thing is i i i only i'm actually going to ask the audience feel free to hit me or throw back yeah i want twitter is there write me like i need some ideas that could just make this because i'm very much one o'clock i want to be on i'm a red zone guy between the bet you know because i'm in a legal gambling state.

So I got the bets, I got the fantasy, I got the giants.

That would be tough.

Multiple TVs.

I'm all over.

So I actually need help from guys out there.

I'm phoning a friend in the audience.

What can I offer my wife?

Again, she's not going to be like, no, you can't watch, but that just, I want the four hours uninterrupted.

I don't, I, I want, I don't want to move from that spot for four hours.

I don't like to be in and out.

I do in and out for like night games, the West Coast games.

Then I could pop it in out, but those East Coast 1 p.m.,

because it's you i just need it i have to have it i have to have the four hours yeah there's got to be i mean fellas out there there's got to be some negotiation or is there just like hey don't bother me on sunday if you don't if you don't have kids it's a lot easier but if you do have kids

yeah send help please tell and now if your kids are getting to the age where they can sit and watch a little ball with you which yours are getting there we're getting there you're close you're close we're we're we're close too but yeah it's i don't know how much preseason you watch like i said i don't i i always like watch preseason, but I don't watch like big, big, big time.

But I did because I was really interested in all the quarterback stuff.

And look, I don't, I, I do not fall for the pre, no one should fall for the preseason stuff.

I just don't think you can.

Who the hell knows what any of it means?

All I know is my, my, my takeaways from what I saw from the QBs, and I'm curious to hear yours and the what, what's real and what's just like, hey, that's good reps, but don't know if that actually matters when you play an NFL game that's not preseason.

The Browns, man, that is going to be a media frenzy.

What I mean by that is like, if Flacco is like one and three, looks 40 years old, Shador plays maybe one more good preseason game, and then we don't like, they're going to be calling for

every talking head show is going to lead off with Shador's, like, what are they doing?

It's going to be every

biggest story in football.

Well, first of all, I will say this.

I will tell you this.

As a quarterback, especially, every preseason rep matters.

So, whether it's Jackson Dart, whether it's Cam Ward, every situation is different, right?

There's not a ton of pressure on Jackson Dart to go out there and ball.

There's just not.

You got two dudes that have played a long time, and he's not going to start week one.

There's, there's, there's, there's almost not even a lot of pressure on Cam Ward, even though he's the number one pick and he's in a way, like, he's going to start regardless.

So, you just go out there and you get better.

There's expectation, but there's not expectations yet, right, for Cam Ward.

Like, Tennessee has been bad.

The Shador Sanders thing is

crazy, right?

It's like, and everybody's talked about it, but I looked at that game last week and everyone's like, oh, he's set up to fail and all this.

Like, at the end of the day, that's be, that's bullshit, dude.

Like, it's the NFL.

Like, you, like, if you don't get first team reps, you get mental reps.

Like, you get maybe backup, you get third and, and you go in there.

And if you ball out, you've like that you've changed the whole narrative.

If you don't, then you don't, man.

It's, it's, it's football.

It's like the opportunity.

So like all of that, when people are saying it's just stupid.

Like that, that makes no sense.

Now, all that being said, the kid balled out, dude.

Like he played really well.

And I think if anything, it shows for him that like this dude has had a bullseye on his back the minute that draft started

for whatever reason.

And then he gets drafted in the fifth round and then he's fourth on the depth chart.

He's still fourth on the judge.

Even after the game, he's still like third or fourth on the depth chart.

Like it's just like you said, it's a story and it's all it's gonna, it's gonna get, it's gonna be like a snowball.

What he showed was not

what he showed was not only can he play because he can play.

No, everyone, everyone knows he can play.

He can play at that level.

I think he can be a starter in the NFL given the right guys around.

Like he for sure can.

I just I believe that.

Now, you know, it's up to him.

But he just showed, man, how to handle, like, he handled all of that shit and went out there and just balled.

Did his job.

He balled out.

He did his job preseason, whatever.

For me, when I'm looking at young quarterbacks, it's like we know they all have the physical tools.

Every quarterback that gets drafted can throw it, can run, whatever, you know, and he's got a high IQ.

He's been around the game.

His dad's, you know, Deon, all these things.

But to be able to handle that.

all the other mental stuff that's like 80 of the game dude can you just handle pressure of being a quarterback in the nfl i know it was only one game, man, but like I took a lot from that.

Like the dude basically shut up a lot of people.

He went out and played really well in not great circumstances, right?

Because he doesn't get a lot of reps.

And

he is going to make it really hard on the Cleveland Browns.

That's what I'm basically saying.

And we are heading toward that moment.

But real quick, Jerry, he's...

This is a preseason coach has always told us this.

Even vets, it is a job interview every time you step foot on a field.

And by the way, every practice too, too, because when now they have all these joint practices where you, I'm in Arizona, we play the Giants five straight days.

Like the Giants are evaluating our roster too, just like we're, you know, like, so you're like, oh, dude, Leinert ripped us apart three days in a row.

Like,

we like him.

Like, if they ever cut him, like, hey, like, we should.

We grab him.

That happens all the time.

So that's why like every practice,

even in one-on-ones, every practice and every rep matters for all positions.

So every time you step foot on a preseason game, like you are putting film out there for all other 31 NFL teams to either pick you up on a practice squad, to sign you as

a free agent, to put down in your notes, like, hey, we really like Shador.

Like maybe if something happens next, like they are making notes.

Like this is professional football.

I just like, I've felt, I will never fall for this thing.

And I think this is relevant for football as it is with me with acting.

You know, we always talk about like the table reading and like these rehearsals, all these things that are like, look, it's a table read.

Like it counts, but it doesn't count.

Go there.

You have to like kind of know your lines.

You have your script in front of you.

You're not supposed to act it out hardcore, but give them enough.

It's for the writers to hear.

What's worse?

I've seen more people fired off of the table read that doesn't matter.

I've seen maybe in my 20-some-odd year career, I've seen seven people fired off of table readings that don't matter.

Yeah,

so you're right.

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I'm excited for what we're about to do right now.

Okay, I've been waiting for this.

It's going to involve my nephew and some

scorching hot takes.

Okay.

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Now, we discussed a few crossroads that we could do.

We like to look back at our careers and think about crossroads.

So, I just had the visit from the family out of New York came to visit me.

16-year-old nephew, senior in high school, about to play his last year football, loves sports, really into football now.

Matt, he is in a crossroads.

Okay.

His crossroad is, are you going to be the scorching hot take guy that just says the thing to get people infuriated and start a sports argument?

Because that's all he did for five straight days was throw things out i kept a log oh i want to hear

well let me say let me tell you something really quick so he's 16 so he's 16.

so he's still gen z yes because gen alpha is like this newest one which i believe is 2012 and on or something so he falls under the gen z which so does cole so i

this generation is just full of shit yeah so i'm gonna read you a few you can tell me if they're like hot takes you like or they like our friends, a freezing cold take, right?

Okay.

And again, some I think were trolling.

And then I got his ones that he was dead serious about.

Okay.

Here is his biggest one.

He's dead serious.

This one, I believe he's dead serious.

He will walk it.

If you ran into him on the street and you brought it up to him, he would walk it back because I just annihilated this take.

But when he said it, he was serious.

Okay.

Okay.

He believes Justin Herbert is better than Joe Burrow.

That's the first half of the take.

Part two of the take is if Justin Herbert was on the Bengals last year and had that roster on offense, he would have maybe led them to the Super Bowl.

Hot scorching take you like or ice cold take?

I think that it's so, it's funny.

I think it's a, I don't think it's a right take, but I don't think it's that.

It's not ice cold.

It's not ice cold.

I do think,

well, one, Burrow, again, Burrow better than Herbert.

Like, I mean, yeah, based on the body of work and based on like consistency, he's been like all that.

I would say, yeah.

Now they're in completely, again, this is where you just dive into it, right?

Completely different offenses.

You know, Herbert doesn't have Jamar Chase and T.

Higgins and like they don't throw the ball of a yard.

They're much different.

So like in that regard, okay, I can see, but I.

Burrow is at this point, he is better than.

What do you want the guy to do?

What more could he do with that offense, Burrow?

Like, well, the defense was the problem.

No, I know.

And he still had an MVP year.

Yeah.

So, so I agree.

I think that's wrong.

Now,

if you could put, if you put Herbert, these are all the hypotheticals, right?

So I know, I love it, but I think that's a good thing.

But if you put Herbert in the colts, if you put Herbert in the Cincinnati Bengals,

is he going to have better?

Are they better?

Are they better?

No, they're not better.

They're not better.

He would be better.

I think he would have similar type of numbers because Herbert is freakishly talented.

But to say they're going to go to the Super Bowl, like you still, like you said, their defense was trash.

All right.

So we'll call that a million.

It's lukewarm.

It's lukewarm.

You can have an opinion.

You could probably back it up with some of your own facts that you think.

But to say Herbert is better than Burrow at this point in his career is false.

Well, buckle up now because now these are the ones he is dead serious about.

There's no hedging.

Okay.

Josh Allen.

What if I agree with one of these?

That's great.

No,

I agree with some of what he says.

Josh Allen, who he loves, who we just discussed, wins back-to-back MVP

and leads the Bills to the one seed.

Back-to-back MVP for Allen and the one seed.

For sure.

That's for sure.

So hot take you like.

That's not that hot of a take.

Okay.

Well, this one is pretty hot.

Chiefs don't win the division.

So now you're looking at Chargers or Broncos because I don't know if the Raiders with Gino.

By the way, everyone's on the Broncos band.

That's a great freaking take.

I like that.

Is it, though?

Everyone's on the Broncos bandwagon, and I get it.

So Bo Nicks is going to unseat.

Like, you could almost write the Chiefs in for like 13 wins every year, even when they're bad.

Yeah, no, that's true.

I just, I don't like that.

I don't think that's that far off.

Okay.

This one,

Lions don't win the division.

NFC North, he has the Packers, and he even has the Bears 2 in the division being sneaky, winning way more games than people think.

But he has the Packers winning the NFC North, and he does not think the Lion.

He thinks the Lions will fall back a little bit this year.

I thought that's a freezing cold take.

I don't think.

Freezing cold.

No,

they lost Ben Johnson, dude.

Ben Johnson.

Ben Johnson.

He has another take involving Ben Johnson.

By the way, what's your nephew's name again?

Anthony.

I love this kid.

Oh, God.

Oh, God.

By the way, I think, look, I mean, break down the lines.

Culture's there.

It's a tough team.

A lot of guys are in place.

And they had a lot of injuries last year.

Like, they're going to be healthier this year, but they lose

a freaking stud as a play caller.

Yeah, and that's something you believe in.

It is.

You talk about that so much.

Like with Goff and the way

they lose that.

So

that.

It all depends.

Now, that's a winning team now, which is crazy to say about the Lions.

But, I mean, the Packers are right there every year.

Like, that's not like, that's one or two games away, and then the Packers win.

I don't think the Bears are there yet either.

Like, there's too many question marks, but I'm not, I'm not, that's not that freezing of a take.

That's a hot take, but that's not a freezing.

That's not, I think it's freezing cold.

The Lions are just loaded.

I know they lost Ben Johnson.

I get it.

Unless Goff has to have Ben Johnson, they're so loaded.

This is a fantasy take, and it involves the Bears and Ben Johnson.

DeAndre Swift will be, will have an elite fantasy year because of Ben Johnson and the fixed offensive line.

If he, yes,

because he's hurt too much.

Well, that's what I'm saying.

If he stays healthy, which is a big if, he could have a Jameer Gibbs type role in that offense.

That he, that's who he is.

DeAndre Swift is explosive.

Yes, he is big.

You got to think, man.

Like, Kyle Shanahan,

OC, he's a head coach, but he's an OC.

How great those off,

just how well, like, the strategy, the game plans, they're just, they're second to none.

Sean McVay, same.

Um, Kingsbury, I think, is up there.

What he was able to do, Jaden Daniels last year with not a lot of pieces around him.

Yeah.

Um, Ben Johnson is just, he's proven that.

Now, head coach, you have a little more responsibility, but he's still going to call plays.

DeAndre Swift is like a fantasy sleeper this year.

If he can stay, I draft him every year.

Yeah, I know, and he's one of those that's like four or five games that are great.

And then he has like that Eagles season was sneaky great for a while and then fell apart.

There's an opportunity there for DeAndre Swift to have a massive year.

I totally agree.

I'm going to skip over these other ones because they're not really that hate.

These aren't that bad.

So the last one that he sent me just now from football camp, okay, for he took a break on his water break.

He sent me a scorcher.

I think that he has his phone out there on the practice field just says that.

Well, I'll give him grace.

Maybe he hasn't arrived yet because it's only 12.

He said he was going to camp.

Tyreek Hill will have a very rough year and officially be deemed washed.

That's a tough bro.

That's a tough one, man.

I've been saying that for like three years.

He left the Chiefs.

Tyreek Hill is going to drop off.

But last year, so yeah.

So it's so funny because I'm, you know, me, I'm dialed in on fantasy.

So like Tyreek Hill is

showing up on like every mock draft that I do for sure.

In like the third round, like he's definitely

fallen.

But a lot of that is

a lot of that because it's Tua.

Like Tua missed like six games last year and they had nobody.

So like, dude, you can't like there's just nothing you can do when you have a quarter like and i don't think they had a great like they just didn't have a lot at that position last year so he's getting one catch a game so that's why there's obviously some you know hesitancy coming into this year i think again to a healthy tyree's gonna have a big year like i think that's a freezing cold take yeah i think it's freezing cold take because also if two uh who are the dolphins backup quarterback though um

i know they drafted quinuers but yeah i don't know actually Andrew, I don't know if we know off the top of our head.

Did they get somebody new?

Because they were not.

I just look at it like this.

If God forbid, and I don't ever want to see Tua get hurt because he's had too many injuries, but if Tua is hurt again, Dolphins having a rough year, is Tyree Hill not a trade candidate, you would think?

Because,

and then

if you put Tyree Kill, oh, god, Zach Wilson is their backup.

I guess he could be a little frisky.

That's that's much better than what they've had.

So if Tyreek Hill gets traded to like the Chargers, Justin Herbert, I don't really see big drop-offs.

I think that's a freezing cold take.

It's Tua, Tua.

I mean, Tua, what, two years ago, played, I think, every game, right?

Like, I know a couple of years ago is bad.

Like, he had a year and then Tyreek had a massive year.

That's why like Jalen Waddell is going like fifth round because it's like, they just don't know.

Like, those guys are solely reliant on.

Tua being healthy because some other teams have good backups.

They can still distribute the ball.

You're still going to get your points.

But like Dolphins, now Zach Wilson's a major upgrade.

Like, Zach Wilson can play.

Like, he's, he might not be a long-term starter, but the dude can come in and play for the game.

He can come in and win a game as he proves.

Yeah, and he's got good weapons.

And

he's got McDaniel, who's a great coach, offensive-minded coach.

So, yeah, I'm look, I want to say this, dude.

I don't necessarily think all of those take, I think the Herbert better than Barreau is

a freezing cold take.

But everything else, I'm kind of in alignment.

I'm kind of in alignment with our bullshit.

I would book your guys as bets.

If you wanted to bet that the Chiefs won't win the division and the Lions won't win the division, I would book all those bets.

I think everyone's falling in love with the Broncos and they're falling in love with the Packers and they're good teams, but they are not the best teams.

I want injuries, who knows?

I would put more money on the Chiefs winning the division than the Lions.

I just think, and I think the Lions are really good.

I just think you lose a play caller like that.

And again, they might not miss a beat.

But they're getting Aiden Hutchinson back.

That's got to be.

Yeah, but Green Bay.

Green Bay's really good, too.

Minnesota, I think, is going to be sneaky good.

I think JJ McCarthy is going to be pretty good.

Good stuff.

Who's the other?

Who do we have?

We have Detroit.

Oh, Chicago.

Chicago.

I'm not.

I'm not Chicago finishing second in that division, though.

That's for sure.

Shout out to Nitza and to my nephew Anthony, who is getting his license soon.

So buckle up.

No texting and driving, none of that stuff.

We'll have that conversation a thousand times before you get your license.

Do you have any excitement for Madden 26?

I always do.

I just signed a

sign my signed my signature to be in the game.

You're in Madden.

Yeah, Madden and college football.

Well, college football for sure.

So are they on what I want?

I mean, I don't know who's playing with me in Madden, but I think I'll be on a raw.

Look, if you get a

Madden Ultimate Team liner juiced up to like 95 with lefty, I mean, my rating in Madden has got to be like a 55.

No, no, no.

That's ridiculous.

You're not.

Yeah, I've, I've, I,

Madden, college football, those are about the two games that I'll play.

Well,

I played with my nephew while he was here and like, not 26, 25.

I know the trials out.

And they're like, it was fun for a second, but I'm like, I need the rookies.

I need the updates.

So there are seven 99s in Madden so far.

This 99s in Madden.

And I have the positions because I think it's hard to just blind guess them.

But let's do a little blind.

Cause I have not looked at this and I don't think you have either.

No.

There's two QBs, two wide receivers, a running back a right tackle and a d end okay

um you want i have not looked at this either

i don't know seven um well i mean i can guess both quarterbacks qbs has to be josh allen right yep and is it i'm gonna stick with mahomes no i would go lamar jackson yeah okay all right i think you're correct i i don't know mahomes is just always a 99 to me i'll go receiver first because this one's easy jamar chase yep

There's another one.

For my number two, I had, I was going to go Justin Jefferson.

It has to be.

Justin Jefferson.

Okay.

So Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Jamar Chase.

Now it's let's get interesting running back because I can make the case for two guys.

I can make the case for two guys.

You're going off of last year, dude.

Just put his name down.

It's very simple.

Saquon?

Yes.

I was going to make the case for Bijan.

Yeah, but he hasn't.

Or Bijan just rushed.

He's got 2,000 yards.

So they're going off of last year and he's on the best team in the NFL.

Right tackle, bro.

Let's see how much NFL you know.

I have one name in mind, I don't even know.

It's the only one, yeah.

And is he definitely a right tackle?

I'm hoping I'm correct.

Penne Sewell.

I was gonna say, I was gonna say Trent Williams.

Trent Williams.

No, wrong.

No.

Oh, the dude from the Bucks.

Oh, who's the

tackle from the Bucks?

No.

Give us one more letter.

Give us, we have someone writing.

NFC East.

Oh,

Eagles.

Andrew Thomas.

Lane Johnson?

Lane Johnson?

Johnson's a 99?

That's crazy.

Okay.

That's a lane.

D.N.

All right, this could be one of two.

I think it's an obvious one, but.

I got TJ Watt.

I was going to put Micah Parsons.

Micah Parsons?

No.

No.

Oh, I know.

I know.

I got it.

Miles Garrett.

Miles Garrett.

Yeah, Miles Garrett.

Okay, those are our 99s.

So seven 99s, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Jamar Chase, Jay Jeddis, Saquon, Lane Johnson, Miles Garrett.

That's solid.

That's solid.

Yeah, I don't know.

The Lane Johnson one broke my brain a little bit.

Well, that's because you don't know many offensive lines.

Well, what, you know, we watched the draft together.

We were at the draft.

What I always love the rookies.

What rookie

just after four games in Madden over the regular season when they do their Madden updates, what rookie is going to get the biggest point overall jump?

I'm looking right now.

You know what I think is,

let's see.

I think Ashton Genty is going to be an absolute star.

I just, he's going to walk in right away and be a 1400-yard back, especially the way like Pete will use him.

Like they use Marshawn and just to run the ball.

And

I think, I got, I think Travis Hunter, dude, like that seems obvious.

Yeah.

That seems obvious but like no one's really talked about him and like the first game he had what he he started he started at receiver and he played like 10 or 15 snaps on defense which i think i mean

he's just like he's gonna have a bunch of catches this year like he's just gonna have a good i mean he's gonna have probably 70 to 80 catches this year as a receiver in that offense with him and brian thomas and then on defense like if he has you know a couple games picks like that like talk about a skyrocket overall i don't even know what his overall is can we find find out what's his overall going in?

He's probably in the 80s, maybe.

Yeah, he must be.

I'm going to be a homer here.

I think it's going to be Abdul Carter.

But what I like what you said about Hunter is like, because he can get the boost on offense and defense.

So he might actually gain the most points that way.

But from all I'm hearing,

Abdul Carter is just awful.

Another, another one, Omarion Hampton.

He's going to start for the Chargers at running back.

We know what Jimmy H likes to do out there.

Run the ball.

And then the other one who's making some noise, who's going to be good, is a Mecca Abuka.

The first round Ohio State wide receiver is in Tampa.

So

she throw the ball all over the yard.

I think Godwin is still out, right?

Godwin's hurt.

Evans is awesome, but he's getting older.

Baker throws the ball 50 times a game.

Well,

I want you one-on-one in Madden online when it drops officially.

We should stream it.

You don't want...

Oh, we'll stream.

You don't want that smoke, dude.

I want it all.

every time you challenge me to a game,

you leave getting your feelings hurt.

Do you know, Matt?

Trivia for you.

Matt's Madden.

I was going to ask you that.

I didn't know if you saw it.

Your rookie rating in Matt.

81.

81.

Man.

2012 was 75.

But you weren't a 55, buddy.

81 to 73 is actually not that bad of a jump over.

Not that big of a falloff.

Not that big of a fall off.

I think it would have been.

I think they should do that for actors.

Like, Matt's playing.

So I was still actors.

2008, I was an 85.

Yeah, but

that's because I played 06.

My 06, I played well.

07, I played five games and I was playing well.

I broke my arm.

I was out.

So going into 08, I was still projected

to probably be the starter or at least compete with Kurt.

And then

it was downhill from there.

What was my speed, though?

That might have been a 55.

Got to be in the 50s.

That might have been a 55.

Yeah, that's fine, dude.

Running is on my 410.

I'm probably faster now than I was.

59 speed for Matty Ice, the real Maddie Ice.

Hey, dude, you're still in the game and you're back in the game.

So good times.

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So usually we like to discuss a personal adventure that we have, but there's something that stuck out to me this past weekend, all throughout preseason.

And I don't know, I guess for me, he kind of is like, if you would describe a coach as a car, I feel like Vrabel is like the, and I mean this in a great way, like he is like the, like a pathfinder, Rock Creek, I think tough, adventurous, rugged, off-road with him, could kind of do whatever you need.

Versatile.

Well, Vrabel was left bloodied after diving into a skirmish during the joint practice between the Pats and the Commanders.

Matt.

We're going to do a little snake draft of coaches we would most likely want on our side of the fight.

But right before we do that, if you saw your coach dive into a skirmish at one of those, we all see the videos of the joint practice fight and he got up bloodied.

Are you like, oh, hell yeah, this is my guy right here?

Does that fire you up?

Or are you just like, what is

it?

Is he jumping?

I feel like someone like Brable,

you don't need to feel that way because of who he is and his personality.

And he played linebacker in the league forever.

So like, and he's already tough and hard nose.

So I think it's more like when you see that, you're just like, oh, oh, shit, coach, coach just got, coach has got in a fight like i think you're just more like laughing at it because that's just the type of attitude he already has you know i mean like if it was someone like like even like pete carroll pete carroll used to dive in like dive in walkthroughs on goal line and just dive over like no helmet just because he was so energetic but like that's sick 72 year old pete carroll like diving in the middle of a skirt coming out bloodied i would like i'm like okay pete you still got it you know like so it all depends on who but yeah vray bowl dude what a beast all right what are you snake drafted we're gonna snake drafted i feel like like there's some obvious ones you um so whoever if i if there's only two of us if i get first picked then that means you get two in a row then i get two in a row and then you close it out for three we're doing three yes we're doing three all right well i'm gonna go dan campbell

dan campbell absolutely

that's just someone you want in the trenches if you're walking down an alley and you want you want dan campbell on your side 100 and then to that degree the obvious next choice is vrabel 100

um my next snake pick he's kind of quiet.

When they cut to him on the sideline, you don't really know what he's thinking.

He was a big, strong dude.

I just feel like he, when he goes, he becomes the incredible Hulk.

I'm going Todd Bowles, Tampa.

I don't know, man.

I feel like when he missed, you missed an obvious one.

Who?

D'Amico Ryans, bro.

D'Amico Ryans played in the league.

He was a middle linebacker for 12 years in the NFL.

I played with him.

D'Amico Ryans is a super nice guy.

He's the best, but he's an animal, dude so i feel like he handles it oh bro that's yeah you missed that one that that that's a no-brainer all right so you gotta get one last one more uh hmm so i'm going more i'm gonna go more youth than like a todd bowles because todd bowles is tough as nails but he has a little bit

i'm going sean mcvey you like that don't you i do like mcvay

and he's jacked he's jacked i feel like if you're like if you're in a fight with mcvey because i like he's not that tall i feel like he's just going going straight for the fucking ankles i think he's just going down and like he's like kicking you in your shin like a ufc fighter and then he's just like he's just

he's like a bulldog he's a bulldog you're gonna hate my last pick by the way i mean i'm already i've already completely dominated you but okay you're gonna hate my last pick and no one's gonna get it And I've done this before where I've said things that no one gets and I've been proven true.

Can I get like a division?

So I have one.

AFC.

AFC East.

And it's not Vrabel.

So there you go.

You have three picks left.

So AFC East, you got the Jets, the Dolphins, and the Bills.

Go back.

It's not Sean McDermott.

It's Mike McDaniel.

And here's why.

Stay with me.

Don't fall off.

No, don't fall asleep.

Don't roll your eyes.

He looks kind of crazy to me.

I feel like

I don't think there's anything.

You think there's some screws up there?

I feel like he does like some Jim Carrey, crazy things that you're kind of like whoa i am like jedi mind tricks yeah certifiably insane also wouldn't be shocked if he was like a fourth degree brazilian jiu-jitsu until

would you be shocked if you heard that about mike mcdaniel bro i love mike mcdaniel but he's probably like he just chokes out

to meko ryan probably a buck 75 soaking wet with my mcdaniel pick i'm hoping it actually doesn't get physical and he just like i said he just acts crazy and does some crazy shit and everybody's like we're out We're leaving this alone.

That's what I might be a Daniel pick.

You got to have a personality.

If you can't just pick the biggest, strongest guy, you can't always be.

Sean McVay is actually quite small.

He's still fat-jacked.

He's probably got 30, 40 pounds on Michael McVay.

I do love the, I do, I think, I do love the Harbaughs, but, you know, again,

Jim doesn't walk very well.

Jim, talk about some screws loose now.

But you feel like it'd be like a Nolan Ryan, Robin Ventura.

Yeah, I just, you know, I'm just, I'm thinking, I'm thinking more youthful, right?

Like Dan Campbell's still still younger.

D'Amico is like my age.

Uh, and McVay is younger than me.

So, you know, like, there's just, they got more energy.

They got more juice.

Before we talk about our Wendy's flavor, I, I do want to tease something.

Uh, we're going to be in LA next week in person, in studio, which we, we, you know, we don't, we get to do every now and then.

I don't want to say it's huge throwbacks news, but it is a pretty big, there will be some big breaking news that we're going to break on the show next week.

I'm not going to spoil anything more.

Don't ask questions.

You like to try to get hints out of me and stuff like that.

It's not, I'm not giving any hints.

Bigger, I mean, bigger than, bigger than Taylor Swift joining the podcast world.

I think it, I think it rivals.

Are you breaking news?

We're breaking news on throwbacks next week.

I'm going to break some news on throwbacks next week.

So make sure you set your reminders on the YouTube.

Our episode will be coming out next week.

Is it like, is it exciting?

Will I be excited about like what?

I don't.

It's good news.

We're breaking good thing.

I'm not saying like I'm stepping away from the show for a little while.

It's good.

It's a good, it's good breaking news.

Oh, so look for that.

Let's go.

Look for that.

Let's go.

Look for that next week.

And if you're lucky, I will even bring you a Wendy's Frosty Fusion flavor.

Okay.

Because it is now.

I get to see you.

Hold on.

I get to see you in person for a week and we get breaking news.

And we get breaking news.

We're going to get the boys together.

My kids are going to get to see what other kids

look like.

I don't want to laugh, but it's probably partially true.

Yeah, it's probably partially true.

Hey, look, what they don't have in height, speed, and strength, they make up within grit, determination, and witty, cute, wild behavior.

So it'll be fun getting together.

Oh, that's going to be fun.

Oh, man.

I'm excited, dude.

All right.

Let's break the energy next week.

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Thought long and hard about this one when looking at this past week's events.

Did you follow?

the Portland Pickles fan appreciation night story a story that not many people are probably covering on their show all I saw all I heard

all I heard and saw was fan comes from the stance and and just hits an absolute nuke over the fence.

That's all I saw.

I'm like, oh, that's pretty cool.

Right.

The backstory is they selected a random fan.

We're air quoting random fan to come down, take an at-bat.

He walked in his first at-bat, stole a base, eventually came around the score.

So they give him another at-bat, and he homos.

Yeah.

So now on social media, all the conspiracy theorists think they uncovered something that Dixie appears to be Eli Steinhaus, a sophomore college baseball player at D3 Lewis and Clark College.

And there's a whole Reddit thread saying that he's an intern actually.

Oh, the truth comes out.

Is this conspiracy

or is this flavor of the week?

I think it's for sure.

It was for sure staged.

Now,

it's still hard to do as a D3 ball player.

I think for that, like hitting a home run is just icing on the cake.

Now, in the pitch, like the dude just threw it right down the middle like a meatball, right?

Yeah, yeah.

But to hit a home run.

yeah so that part to hit an actual home run just made it even bigger and made it exactly what it's become a viral video and it's what a story that would be if he truly was like i kind of play

on like d3 i'm not really playing this come out that'd be like my ultimate dream like doing like

we did the it had this has very savannah banana feel to it i was gonna say it feels like they borrowed from the savannah yeah when you look at because i i did a little deep dive and i saw a couple videos and they like they'll wear like big gloves like they'll do some fun, like some more fun interaction stuff.

But well, if this were for real and we were actually going to throw a fan in a sporting event, and let's just say he's like a D3 athlete, right?

Like he's a good athlete, he's not D1, but he's not like I've some of the guys like you know who do like free throws of the basketball game, they even look athletic but can't reach, they've never played basketball before.

Let's just say a mildly decent athlete.

What's the most doable

catching a touchdown?

Professional sporting

game.

Now, I have some really hard ones and some maybe more doable.

Hitting a home run like this kid did.

I mean, that's impossible almost.

Getting a yard as a running back.

I know Saquon answered that question on New Heights, right?

Like, can you?

I feel like I could sneak out a yard, Matt.

I really, if I just get it and just dive low, I'm so short.

I'm so short.

But you're already starting like six yards back.

I know, but if I just run and die, I'm so short.

You're not moving, though.

Like you have no lateral movement.

So you're just, you just pray to God that there's a hole that's one yard.

And by the way, that hole closes just like that.

I guess time.

But again, I feel like I will have the lowest.

There's only been like two running backs who are even remotely close to my size.

So I just think that no one's used to tackling a 5'5 running back.

I think I could do it.

Scoring a goal in hockey, hitting a three in basketball.

But now remember, you're getting covered, covered, though.

You're getting covered.

Yeah.

No.

Getting a fly in baseball?

Do you think someone could just get like a sack bly?

I feel like that's doable at a birdie on like a Pebble Beach or even like in the Scotland on a par three, which I think that's probably the most doable.

Well, I'll tell you what's not is baseball.

A random semi, like, okay, like, I'll just put myself good athlete.

Obviously, I was a, but like at this age.

Played a lot of baseball.

There is no chance I'm hitting a 98 mile an hour fastball.

There's no chance there's no chance i'm hitting a 79 mile an hour clayton kershaw curveball so and i mean you can get lucky and hope that you put your bat on it but even like hitting a home run i think the baseball i think catching a touchdown pass

take baseball out zero chance i think catching a touchdown pass too that's a zero no i feel like if they're playing zone and you're like if i'm lined up against sauce garden no yeah

hitting a three in basketball that's possible just because the deep i mean it all depends are they just throw Are they playing?

Are they covering you like a glove?

Let's just say they don't know the three is coming, right?

Like, I think if like a six-year-old,

I think you could hit a three in basketball.

If they're not, remember, no one's like, you're right.

You're right.

They don't play any defense.

You're just running around, all of a sudden, you get a kick out.

You could hit a three if you have any

scoring a goal in hockey would be virtually.

I would say, in my opinion, getting one yard as a running back

or hitting a three in basketball, because I do think as a running back, you could line up like two yards behind the quarterback and do like a tush-push type of thing, ideally.

That would hurt so bad.

That would hurt so bad.

You would not like that.

You would not like that feeling.

You'd probably break multiple bones just by getting hit once.

I just think I could get a yard, dude.

I'm not saying every time.

I'm not saying I'm getting one yard every time.

I think I have like a 50-50 shot of.

getting very close to getting one yard.

You might have to bring the sticks out.

You might have to bring the sticks out and measure it, but I think I'm getting very close.

I'm thinking

about it.

A birdie on a tough par three, if you have,

I guess you can get it.

That's probably due because you could hit like worm burners.

You could like.

Yeah, but like a birdie, like you have to hit a ball.

And you have to hit the putt.

Yeah, they have to hit the putt.

That's hard, dude.

I'm going to go with hitting a three and hoops.

And I think getting a yard as an RB, even though I really think that's challenging, but I think you could scheme to where you could get a yard.

i mean you at like 6'5 with 59 overall speed and matt bro i was it was tough for me to get a yard and i was even when the pocket broke down running i'm like oh my god dude let's do two mailbags i got one for you and then i'll take one okay uh this one is from dennis in new orleans shuck territory matt I think we all assume that the Bush push, and you just saw your boy Reggie, was your favorite touchdown of your career.

But do you have a favorite or memorable touchdown from your career that's not the Bush push?

That's a good question.

I mean, my first ever pass I threw in college was a touchdown.

First ever start, first ever pass.

We got a fumble.

What was it?

What's the

details?

We were, we,

they fumbled.

We got the ball in like the 10-yard line going in in the first quarter.

It's my first ever start.

Again, Auburn was legit.

They were like top five.

Yeah.

We ran a little stick nod, which is like a little five-yard out kind of, and then nod to the middle of the end zone with Mike Williams.

And I threw a touchdown.

So that's pretty cool.

I would say one for one one for with one TD as your overall.

I would say this.

My, my most, my, the one that sticks out is obviously your first like NFL touchdown pass I threw against real one was against the Chiefs on a freaking on a deep post to Anquan, which is pretty awesome.

My first NFL rushing touchdown, dude.

I played.

By the way, how many NFL rushing touchdowns do you have?

Is that your first and only?

Maybe three.

I had two that year.

That's probably it, too.

So I had one against them and I had one against, I had one against the Detroit Lions, my first one like week eight or nine.

And I remember running in and I was like, and I remember taking the ball because I'm like, I'm taking this, my first rushing touchdown.

I kind of go across the goal line and I kind of turn like, cause there were guys there, but DBs don't want to hit in the NFL, not really.

So it was it like QB draw, like you're going to be able to get a bunch of half a yard like that.

It was just like a broken down play and like the five or six yard line of pass.

I just kind of rolled around and then I just kind of dove in and I kind of turned and kind of just dove in with my back kind of facing you, like like to like shield for a hit.

And no one touched me.

So, but I got a touchdown and I spiked the shit out of the ball, which is awesome.

I think I still had that ball.

It was like, you know, Detroit Lions, October, whatever, 2000.

Did that just feel great?

Like, getting a rush?

It was just fun, dude, because, like, I, yeah, because I don't run the ball.

And I remember, I think Larry or Anquan were like, bro, what are you doing?

Like, get it up.

I was like, I don't know.

I was so fired up.

And then, honestly, while we're on the topic, my other touchdown that year was against the Cowboys.

And it was against

Roy Williams.

Was it Roy Williams?

Yeah.

safety for the Cowboys.

He was a stud.

Yeah, so I'm running a bootleg on like the two-yard line, right?

So I'm faking.

And I keep the ball to run, like one of those, like a really designed, designed.

I think we leaked someone out in the back, but it was designed to go in.

And dude, it's so good.

I threw foot race.

I threw the old okey doke fake pass to nobody against Roy.

He jumped up and I scored, dude.

I'll know.

That's got to be, it's got to be somewhere on highlights.

You got to find it.

It was a it was the old like run it and he's right he left his feet on the pump fake he left his feet because i went i look back and i go boom the old fake and he goes he just jumped a little bit and then i beat him to the corner of the end zone against roy williams that shit was fun see that must have felt real good because that you look like you do that stuff all the time yeah but i just wasn't a great runner dude i just was like i wasn't slow like i'll say this i wasn't i was just big and gangly like i wasn't like super slow like i could move well enough like back for sure like i really could.

Like I wasn't like a statue.

Like I could move a little bit, get some yards and all that.

I just never had to.

But like obviously I'm not the guy, what the guys are today.

All right.

I'm going to take this one.

Which one do you both?

Kyle?

Yeah, Kyle from Los Angeles.

Oh, this is for me or for you?

For me.

This one's for me.

If you want to read it.

I remember you saying that Edrin James is one of the best teammates you ever had.

Jerry, from an acting standpoint, who are the best teammates that you had?

I thought about this a lot when I saw these mailbag questions.

That's a great question.

It is, but I'm going to flip it because there's just obvious answers, right?

Like my stuff with Kevin Dylan, who played Johnny Drama.

Like I just had a front row seat to watching what I think is one of the funniest dudes, unintentionally and intentionally funny ever to be on screen.

So it's easy to say Dylan and the Entourage guys.

And I even had a great, you know, power cast, but I'm just going to segue off acting for a minute because there's so many departments on the crew, right?

I did this movie, Sully, about Sully Sullivan, who landed the plane in the Hudson River.

Clint Eastward directed.

Great movie.

Now, I got cut out of most of the movie, and I was told it's not my fault that why I got cut.

It was a time-linked thing.

Sure, I'll accept that, Clint.

But I played one of the like Coast Guard rescue crew divers who dive into the Hudson and start rescuing people, passengers, right?

And we did that in the Hudson River.

And I had to jump out of a helicopter, not as many feet as you would think, but into the Hudson River and and start saving people in full scuba gear.

And then we had to do the rest of it in the water tank.

I think the same water tank they shot some Jaws stuff in at Universal.

And they should have used like a real person.

I did the stunt and the stunt team on that, dude.

I was so scared.

I was about to say in a helicopter jumping into the Hudson River in full scuba gear.

And then I had that ring people and like swim them in.

And I took a week to prepare.

You probably had to learn how to like

breathe on a scuba gear.

Yeah, that's I did that once shark diving for on a tank, and it took me a few times to come up and like get the breathe, the breath down.

Because once you once you get the breath down, it's fine.

That's fine, dude.

But it's still a lot of gear.

And I just was so scared to the point where I was going to back out.

I'm like, they should just hire like a real person.

Because then I have like two or three acting scenes.

I have like two or three acting scenes, right?

So they cast me for the acting.

You would have thought they would have used a stunt double, but Mr.

Eastwood wanted to get in close on me and see that it was really me.

And I almost tried to quit like three times.

I'm like, that's a good thing.

So they didn't use that part in the movie or they did.

You would never know it was me in that part.

Now, I have a few other scenes where you could clearly see it's me.

And I have one like acting scene.

And were you semi-kind of pissed?

Like, bro, I just, I thought I was going to die.

I was just pissed at the time.

I just was so thankful to the stunt crew and the stunt coordinators because they 100%

got me through that whole thing and made it a good experience.

But that's just talk about like having my best.

That's my Edger and James.

Like that's, those were my guys.

They got me through it.

Before we wrap, what was it like working with Clint Eastwood?

And even if you have a small part, like, is that pretty cool to be in like the same room as him?

And yeah.

So the, the, the myth of Clint Eastwood, there's like two main ones.

One is he doesn't like really call action or cut and he does one take right that's the one of the biggest shits one take maybe two and you're out and then the second was like he works like eight hour days now he gets big budgets so you could afford to do that and i will say both those myths are roughly true i'm doing one scene with this guy i remember and like he clint at the time he had his own monitor so he's not at this big video village he has his own monitor off to the side and he doesn't call action he'll come up to us and he'll just say start whenever you're ready and he walks away so now it's me and the other actor.

And I have the first line.

So it's going to be a little bit harder, right?

I don't know.

I just want to hear action.

It's like our start.

Because I know, like, boom, you're on.

Right.

It's like, it's calling hike, right?

The play begins when you call action.

That's kind of

got used to that.

And then, so he's like notoriously used the same crew forever and ever.

And, you know, you have to union rules, like you have to take like an hour lunch break.

I think the thing was like

you could,

he lets the crew decide every day.

We could work through lunch and leave an hour earlier.

And now you look, you could eat still.

We're not saying you're not allowed to eat.

You can still eat while you're doing your job.

Or, and you could stick around to eat food will be here, or we could take the hour break, which is usually an hour and a half.

By the way, I'd rather go through it.

I think 100% of the time they say, go through.

But you know, it was cool.

So we went through, but you would think people then like run home after that because they have a lot of people stuck around to eat and hang out and talk, but it was, they were clocked out so like the pressure's off you're gonna eat and go home as opposed to eat and go back and do another i love four hours

and then about the what so that was the eight hour days so the days were where the days the days were eight like you literally show up at nine and you're out by five o'clock that's like similar to like football coaches it's like why are we why why are we you know why are we installing 900 plays like let's be more efficient let's get home early hey let's do what we're good at and then let's move on like like don't overthink it, right?

Or don't over coach or like, don't over direct and over like that.

Like, hey, one take, two take, boom, let's go on.

You guys are all professionals.

That's awesome, dude.

So I think the core

is why maybe it doesn't happen as often.

With movies, number one, that kind of schedule, you need a large budget for.

It's just because it's time as money, right?

Yeah.

And I think for you, with football, it's almost like a lot of people.

He's also Clint Eastwood.

And he's Clint Eastwood.

And I think.

And maybe, I don't know, maybe if it's different for Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, maybe there's not a 900-play install.

But also maybe with football, it's like,

well, look, hey, if we're only going to install a smaller amount, you just better be able to fucking run those things.

Yeah, you bet, like, no,

because we have no options, you know, mental assignment, mental errors or Emmys, mental errors.

Yeah.

Hey, no mental errors.

We'll move on.

And then if everyone's on it, yeah, you move on.

You get rewarded for being prepared and all that.

Yeah.

That's the show.

I'm going to see you in like three days.

Bro, I can't wait.

One, to see you.

I can't wait to hear this freaking news you're about to break.

It's crazy.

Don't let's see.

You're ready.

Don't text me.

I'm going to be thinking about it all weekend.

See the kids.

Oh, it's going to be fire, man.

It's great to be back.

And maybe we could throw on a preseason game.

On, we'll come over or bring the boys over.

We throw on a little preseason action.

Yeah, there's a lot going on.

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Season two coming back, dude.

We're fired up.

And we say next week we talk a little fantasy.

I think it's time we dive into it.

Yeah, dude.

I just started my email or my group chat chat to one of my my groups about hey this is the date of the first draft my boy his draft sent it to the other group chat i have three more drafts i'm a part of that one's already done that one's in person here where i live uh that's like i don't know like a monday night or something dude i gotta draft one and hope for wi-fi on the plane it's on my flight to la don't be well that's all i want to talk about don't be an auto drafter bro well no one they get kicked out they get they get kicked out of the league we'll figure it out don't don't fly on this don't fly on figure it out it affects you buddy we want to take a later flight that's less time you and i have to work and hang out.

What airline?

United, I think.

I mean, there's Wi-Fi.

The question is, does it 50?

It's 50-50.

And get by the way,

give me your login.

I'll draft.

I'll draft for you.

You're definitely it, but do you want to know who my emergency

if I don't have Wi-Fi?

It's auction.

Your nephew, Anthony.

Auction, okay.

State Ferrara.

Auction, I can't do.

So you're out of luck with me.

Well, he's my emergency GM.

So we'll recap that whole thing next week.

Thank you, everybody.

Listen to Maddie.

I will see you in LA, buddy.

Yes, sir.